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          BUILDINGS TO KEEP IT FURTHEST AWAY FROM OLYMPIA DRIVE AND TO ALSO BUILD AN, UH, AN ACCESS ROAD FOR TOWN VEHICLES TO, UM, HAVE A SECONDARY ACCESS OFF THE PROPERTY FROM THE, UH, EASEMENT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OR THE HIGHWAY GARAGE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OFF OLYMPIC ROAD. 
          SO, UM, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE PRIOR MEETING, AND I WAS JUST, UH, INVITED BACK HERE AND HOPEFULLY TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THIS. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR RICH FROM A AND, UH, FROM A PUBLIC WORK STANDPOINT? KNOW THE TOWN ENGINEERS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. 
          UM, IS ARE THERE ANY ISSUES OR IS IS JERRY BYRNE? UM, I, I KNOW, I HOPE YOU ALL SAW THE PLANS THE LAST TIME, AND I THINK MEREDITH SENT OVER THE PLANS, UM, FOR ALL OF YOU TO REVIEW AGAIN. 
          SO, UM, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          OUR TOWN ENGINEER HAS LOOKED AT THE PLANS AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT AFTER ONE OF THE, UM, I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE CONSTITUENTS VOICED CONCERNS LAST WEEK ABOUT THE, UH, PROPOSED ENTRANCE OUT ONTO THE ROAD THAT WE GET, UH, A TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO DEMONSTRATE, UH, A SIGHT LINE STUDY AND THE TURNING RADIUSS ONTO THE ROAD. 
          I KNOW, UH, A CONSTITUENT SAID THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE EASE OF GETTING, OR THE LACK OF THERE, OF GETTING ONTO THE ROAD FROM THE PROPOSED FACILITY. 
          UM, WE ALSO DID TALK ABOUT THE, THE ACCESS POSSIBLY FOR US INTO THE GARAGE IN CASE WE NEED TO, IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY. 
          THE, UH, THOUGHT WAS THAT THE VILLAGE COULD POSSIBLY PUT THE, THE, UH, BARRIER ON TOWN PROPERTY. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE CONTROL OF POSSIBLY GETTING THROUGH THERE IN WAY OF A FOB OR SOMETHING IN THE TRUCKS IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THE FIRST, UH, ISSUE CALL THE, UH, CONSTITUENT HAD, UH, NANCY, YOU'RE BREAKING UP. 
          SHE IS FROZEN. 
          OH, YOU'RE FROZEN. 
          FROZEN. 
          WELL, MEREDITH, YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT SHE WAS GONNA SAY. 
          , DO YOU WANNA SAY IT? ? UM, SURE. 
          BUT, UM, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE, UH, MAYOR TAKING THAT, WHAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION? I'M SORRY. 
          SO, THE, THE FIRST QUESTION, I THINK THAT BRIAN SIMMONS ARE WHO YOU'VE MET, UH, EARLIER IN THE, HE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UM, ACCESS ONTO THE ROADWAY. 
          SO WHAT HE'D LIKE TO SEE IS TWO OLYMPIC LANE, OR TWO HEATHERDALE. 
          TWO HEATHERDALE. 
          TWO HEATHERDALE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE ENTRANCE ONTO OLYMPIC LANE SEEMS VERY EASY. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE THE MORE SENSIBLE WAY TO GO. 
          UM, SO WHAT HE WAS ASKING IS THAT WE PROVE WITH THE SIGHT LINE STUDY, AND, YOU KNOW, AND YOUR, YOUR CONSULTANT, UH, THEIR TRAFFIC ENGINEER PROVE OUT THAT THAT ENTRANCE IS WORKABLE. 
          WELL, FOR THE ENT, THAT'LL BE OUR ENTRANCE THAT WE GO IN AND OUT OF RIGHT. 
          UH, ALL THE TIME SO THAT THEY'LL DESIGN IT IN THE SAFEST WAY POSSIBLE. 
          UM, THEY, THEY'RE NOT AT 
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THAT POINT YET, SO WE DON'T HAVE DESIGNS FOR THE INTERSECTION. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          BUT WHATEVER WE DO, YOU KNOW, WITH EASEMENT OR NOT, THAT'LL BE HOW WE GO IN AND OUT. 
          UM, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK MORE WHEN WE GET TO THE DESIGN STAGE FOR THAT, BUT WE'RE JUST ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE NOT THERE QUITE YET. 
          OH, CAN I ASK A QUESTION, RICH? UM, IS SUGGESTING, YOU SAID THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS SUGGESTING A TRAFFIC, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSULTANT REVIEW THE REVIEW, THIS WAS, WAS THAT CORRECT? THEY'RE LOOKING NO, JUST AT THE ENTRANCE. 
          JUST THE ENTRANCE. 
          SO JUST, YEAH, NOT A TRAFFIC STUDY, JUST THE SIGHT LINE DISTANCE AND THE TURNING RADIUSS ONTO THE ROADWAY. 
          SO, WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE IF I MAYBE, UH, THE VILLAGES, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TEAM THAT'S WORKING ON THIS, IF THEY COULD JUST HAVE A TRAFFIC, UH, YOU KNOW, PERSON WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEERS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY EARLY ON IN THIS WAY WE COULD SORT OF RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, AND OUR ENGINEERS WORKING TOGETHER IN THE NEXT COUPLE, YOU KNOW, WEEKS. 
          SURE. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          I'M JUST, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE LOST AT HOW THAT IMPACTS YOUR OPERATIONS, UM, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT THAT, THAT WILL BE OUR ACCESS IN AND OUT OF OUR PROPERTY. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU WANNA HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU GUYS, I'M NOT, I'M MISSING THE CONNECTION. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT'S THAT, RICH? SORRY, I COULD JUMP IN. 
          THIS IS, UH, JERRY BYRNE. 
          UM, FRANCIS, I DO HAVE, FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT ARDSLEY MADE FOR US ON MY SCREEN, IF YOU'RE ALLOWED ME TO SHARE, I COULD, UH, SHOW THAT IF WE, IF AS FAR AS CONVERSATION, SO WE KNOW WHAT'RE TALKING. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          YES. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          TELL ME IF IT, IF IT WORKS. 
          YOU SEE THAT RIGHT NOW? IT WORKS. 
          YES. 
          GREAT. 
          GREAT. 
          SO, UM, JUST FOR THE DISCUSSION AND, UH, THANKS, UH, MEREDITH FOR, UH, VERIFYING ABOUT THE ACCESS IN AND OUT, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, I WAS NOT HERE. 
          I CAME IN LATE AND THERE WAS, UH, IT GOT BACK TO ME THAT IT WAS A CONCERN THAT, UM, THE, UH, ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THE MAIN DRIVEWAY, UH, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY MIGHT COME IN THE NEW ROAD AND THEN COME AROUND THE BACK. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT YOUR ACCESS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, IN AND OUT. 
          UM, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, AFTER TALKING TO, UH, STAFF AND, UH, AND, UH, RICH AND SOME OTHER MEMBERS, UM, A CONCERN THAT I HAVE, AND I HOPE WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT WHILE IN CONCEPT WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THE NEW ROAD THAT WOULD LINK TO OLYMPIC LANE MM-HMM. 
          , IT'D BE LIKE TWO-WAY, UH, ACCESS. 
          UH, THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I, I HOPE WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION OF MAKING THAT MAYBE ONE WAY, BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO THE PUB, WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES INTO THE PARK, WE WANT THEM TO TAKE THE MAIN ROUTE ALL THE WAY UP. 
          AND, UH, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN WITH PEOPLE COMING IN INTERRUPTING THROUGH OUR PARK MAINTENANCE AND OUR DAY CAMP POOLS THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE ALSO HOPING THE VILLAGE WOULD BE OPEN TO IS TO PUT A, UH, A THIRD GATE THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS, YOU KNOW, CONTROLLING, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT CAN GO UP WITH A FOB AND DOWN WITH THE FOB. 
          AND, UH, I, I HOPE THE VILLAGE, UH, WOULD CONSIDER IT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC COMING IN THERE ALL THE TIME. 
          WE WANNA BASICALLY HAVE THAT CLOSED AND THEN WHEN WE EXIT TO BASICALLY HAVE SOME TYPE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, GARAGE DOOR OPENER OR SOMETHING THAT CAN OPEN UP AND THEN THEY CAN EXIT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE EXIT ONTO OLYMPIC LANE FOR YOU FOR THE NEW ROAD, IS THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS NEW GATE OF SOME SORT? YEAH, YEAH. 
          IT WOULD BE MORE OR LESS, UH, A GATE SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE IF YOU COULD SEE MY CURSOR. 
          UH, YES. 
          UM, YEAH, I DON'T SEE, OH, NANCY'S BACK, SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY, I GOT DROPPED OFF. 
          SORRY. 
          DO YOU WANNA TAKE A MAYOR? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO NO, GO AHEAD. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I DROPPED OFF. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, FOR THAT, THAT ROAD, IF YOU WANT A ONE WAY, WE'LL BUILD A ONE WAY, IF YOU WANT A TWO WAY, WE'LL BUILD A TWO WAY. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE ENGINEERS, UM, ABOUT A GATE, BUT I CERTAINLY CAN, UM, IF THAT MAKES IT, YOU KNOW, EASIER, SAFE, SAFETY-WISE, IF THAT MAKES THAT BETTER ON YOUR END. 
          UM, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I'LL CERTAINLY TALK TO 'EM ABOUT IT SENSE, IF ANY CONCEPT WE HAVE, ANY ISSUE WITH THAT, WHEN IT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, RICHARD AND JERRY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE, UH, IF WE, THEY, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DO THIS AT, YOU KNOW, THE WORK SESSION, IF THEY COULD JUST WORK OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS AND AND CONCERNS. 
          AND THEN, UM, WHEN YOU WORK OUT EVERYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH 
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THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORK, I, I THINK THAT, UH, I, I'M SORRY I DROPPED OFF THE CALL, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THESE DETAILS CAN BE WORKED OUT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE MAJOR CONCEPT IS OKAY, WE COULD CERTAINLY GET THE, UH, NECESSARY PARTIES TOGETHER TO WORK IT OUT. 
          I ACTUALLY ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT, THAT, THAT THE, UH, EXTRA ACCESS ROAD, UM, WAS GONNA BE ONE WAY AND NOT TWO WAYS. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT THESE ARE REALLY LITTLE DETAILS THAT WE CAN WORK OUT AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND, UM, TO, TO MAKE IT MUTUALLY SATISFACTORY TO EVERYONE. 
          IF THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS OKAY WITH THE BOARD, YOUR STAFF HAS ALREADY BEEN BEEN, UH, GREAT TO WORK WITH. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I, I SEE THAT CONTINUING THROUGHOUT THE, THE LENGTH OF THE PROJECT, UM, AND ACTUALLY PASSED WHEN WE ACTUALLY BUILD IT. 
          BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          THE, THE MORE EYES WE CAN GET ON IT, THE BETTER. 
          ACTUALLY, WHAT BRIAN WAS ASKING FOR ALSO WAS, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY SHOWING THE PATH OF THE ACCESS ROAD THROUGH THE PROPERTY, UM, BY MEETS AND BOUNDS, YOU KNOW, UM MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THAT WAS ONE OF HIS CONCERNS. 
          NICK CASO, WHO WAS AT THE LAST MEETING, ONE OF THE, UH, CONSTITUENTS, UM, I BELIEVE HE WORKED FOR D O T FOR DECADES BEFORE RETIRING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT TRAFFIC, I, UH, I TEND, I TEND TO LISTEN TO HIM. 
          AND WHAT, SO WHAT HIS MAIN POINT WAS, IS THAT, AND AS MENTIONED DURING THE LAST PRESENTATION, WAS THAT THIS IS, THIS IS AN IDEAL WAY TO GO OUT BECAUSE OF THE, THE SLOPES. 
          THIS IS NOT, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU BUILT THE ROAD AS YOU DID OVER HERE, GOING OUT TO OLYMPIC LANE. 
          I THINK IN LISTENING TO WHAT HE SAID, IT'S HIS BELIEF THAT THIS, UM, EXIT ONTO HEATHERDALE IS NOT IDEAL. 
          AND THAT OVER TIME, YOUR TRUCKS WOULD LIKELY TAKE THE EASIER ROUTE OUT, WHICH WOULD BE OLYMPIC LANE, WHICH WOULD CLOG UP OLYMPIC OLYMPIC LANE FOR PEOPLE COMING IN TO USE THE, THE POOL IN THE PARK. 
          THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED EASILY BY SOME WRITING. 
          JUST, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST, UH, I, I, I DON'T  COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE MUTE THEMSELVES AND NOT SEND ME, SEND ME LEFT. 
          NOTHING. 
          OH, THEY HAVEN'T? WELL, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S A GOT IT, GOT IT, GOT IT, GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND SO, SO THAT'S THE, I THINK THAT'S THE, THE ONLY CONCERN THAT IS BEING RAISED HERE IS, UH, HOW TO KEEP IT SO THAT THE, UH, D P W LEY D P W VEHICLES DO USE HEATHERDALE AND NOT USE OLYMPIC LANE AS THEIR ROUTINE WAY IN AND OUT. 
          UM, AND SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS ALSO WAS IF THERE WAS A GATE OVER HERE ON OLYMPIC LANE WHERE IT SAYS NEW ROAD AND OLYMPIC LANE, ONE OF JERRY'S CONCERNS, COMMISSIONER OF PARKS AND RECREATION CONCERN WAS WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM HEATHERDALE ONTO OLYMPIC LANE AND THINKING THAT IF THEY MAKE THE RIGHT, THAT IT'S GONNA GET THEM SOMEPLACE INTO THE PARK. 
          RIGHT? WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO CONTINUE TO GO STRAIGHT, AND BY HAVING A GATE THERE, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A PRETTY GOOD INDICATOR THAT THEY SHOULD BE CONTINUING TO GO STRAIGHT. 
          BUT THERE COULD BE A FOB ON OUR TRUCKS THAT WOULD THEN GET THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO COME IN, IN THAT WAY, OUR EMPLOYEES FOR THE MAINTENANCE BUILDINGS, OBVIOUSLY THE GATE WOULD RISE FOR THEM. 
          SO ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN GET WORKED OUT. 
          IT WOULD BE GOOD. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , IF WE WOULD START ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF ACTUALLY WRITING UP WHAT THE EASEMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE ACTUAL WORDING IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS THE DETAILS THAT MATTER AT THE END, AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY HARD FEELINGS AS TO, WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE MEANT, OR THIS IS WHAT WE REALLY MEANT, OR WHATEVER. 
          AND SO IF WE COULD GET THAT INITIATED AS WELL AS TO HOW WOULD THESE GATES WORK AND WHO WOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER THEM, I, I, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US. 
          UM, IN CONCEPT, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE HAS AN ISSUE WITH THIS. 
          IT'S IN THE OPERATION MAKING SURE THAT IT ACTUALLY FUNCTIONS AS IT'S BEING DESCRIBED. 
          BECAUSE IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WHEN THIS THING ACTUALLY IS FINISHED, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED AND WHAT, WHAT DID THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY ON THIS CONVERSATION ACTUALLY MEAN? AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BETTER IF WE ACTUALLY ALSO, IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT PRETTY PICTURES, UH, START IN WHATEVER THE RE UM, THE RESTRICTIONS 
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ARE, WHAT THE DEEDED WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE EASEMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, GOING FORWARD. 
          YEAH. 
          I I WOULD JUST ABSOLUTELY, GO AHEAD. 
          DO YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          OH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO AGREE WITH FRANCIS. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UM, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I'M HAVING TROUBLE. 
          COULD YOU REPEAT THAT, PLEASE? UM, I COULD PUT THAT IN MY CHAT, IN THE CHAT LINE , THAT I AGREE. 
          BUT, UH, I THINK THAT IT MAKES SENSE, UM, FOR THE VILLAGE TO START TO PROPO TO GIVE US A DRAFT AGREEMENT NOW, BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, BOARD MEMBERS SCRUTINIZE THE WORDING AND, YOU KNOW, ARE VERY, VERY CAREFUL BEFORE WE APPROVE ANYTHING. 
          SO IF YOU GIVE US A DRAFT NOW, THEN WE COULD GO THROUGH THE SECOND DRAFT AND THIRD DRAFT AND YEAH. 
          AND THEN BY THE TIME YOU'RE REALLY READY AND YOU WANT IT, LIKE IMMEDIATELY, WE'LL HAVE GONE THROUGH THE BACK AND FORTH AND WE WON'T HOLD YOU UP. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT THAT IS, THAT COULD SAVE YOU A LOT OF AGGRAVATION. 
          AND, UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD BASICALLY WANTS TO WORK WITH THE VILLAGE AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK TO MAKE THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT COULD BE POSITIVE FOR THE TOWN AND, AND THE VILLAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING, FRANCIS. 
          I AGREE WITH, UH, WHAT YOU SAID. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN IMPORTANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS MEMORIALIZED, SO NOT JUST THE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE WORKING WITH THIS UNDERSTAND OR HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF WHAT, WHAT WE, UH, ALL VIEW HERE, BUT THAT IT'S MEMORIALIZED FOR THOSE WHO COME AFTER US AND LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, OH, BUT THEY SAID WE COULD USE THIS, SO NO, WE CAN'T USE THAT. 
          OR THE OTHER THING, UM, IT IS NEVER BEEN OUR ATTENTION TO USE OLYMPIC LANE FOR ANY PART OF OUR TRUCKS HERE. 
          SO, UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONSTITUENTS CONCERN, UM, OBVI, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, CERTAINLY WANT TO ADDRESS THEM. 
          ONE OF HIS CONCERNS WAS ALSO WITH TRACTOR TRAILERS. 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRACTOR TRAILERS. 
          I, I IMAGINE THERE WILL BE SOME DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, AND WE'LL ADDRESS THAT AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          BUT, UM, I AGREE WITH THE SUPERVISOR FINER, WE CAN START, UM, PUTTING THIS DOWN ON PAPER AND DRAFTING THE LANGUAGE AND THEN LETTING OUR RESPECTIVE ATTORNEYS, UM, HAMMER OUT THE DETAILS ONCE, UM, WE, WE ALL PUT FORTH WHAT, WHAT WE, UH, UM, WHAT WE SEE HERE. 
          LEMME, IF, IF I MIGHT ADD, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING HERE, UM, OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE JUST RAISED THE, THE MAYOR AND I THAT GIVE US ANY PAUSE, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          I THINK CONCEPTUALLY WE'RE ON BOARD. 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF ON THAT. 
          UM, UH, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ACTUAL MEETS AND BOUNDS FOR THE ROADWAY FOR EITHER ROADWAY UNTIL WE DO, UNTIL WE GET INTO THE DESIGN A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          UM, SO I'M WONDERING, AND MAYBE THIS, I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN ANSWER, ANYBODY CAN ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT, UM, IF WE CAN GET A DRAFT AGREEMENT IN THE FORM THAT, THAT ALLOWS US TO PUT IN THAT DETAIL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT IN SOME KIND OF DETAIL ON IT, BUT THE ACTUAL SPECIFIC MEET MEETS AND BOUNDS, WHEN WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG THE LINE, THAT'LL GIVE US THE CONFIDENCE THAT WE CAN BUILD IT AND DESIGN IT THE WAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE MEETS AND BOUNDS AS SOON AS WE CAN IN THAT PROCESS, AS OPPOSED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING SURE YET IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? SO, SO IF WE COULD NAIL DOWN A DRAFT CONTRACT FOR ALL OF THE PARTS AND PIECES THAT YOU'VE JUST DISCUSSED, AND JUST LEAVE OPEN THE FORMAL MEETS AND BOUNDS AND, AND PUT IN MAYBE TEMPORARY FOR THE TIME BEING, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, UNTIL WE ACTUALLY NAIL IT DOWN WITH DESIGN. 
          DOES THAT SOUND WORKABLE ON YOUR END? WELL, I'M, I'M NOT THE, I'M NOT THE PERSON WHO REQUESTED THE MEETS AND BOUNDS. 
          I, BUT I, BUT AT LEAST IF THERE WAS A DRAWING OF THE ROAD GOING THROUGH, I THINK THE CONCERN IS MM-HMM. 
          , THAT THERE'D BE TURNING RADIUS, AND IT'S NOT JUST AN ARROW POINTING TO THE, TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE STATING ROAD GOES HERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF WE COULD AT LEAST SEE SOMETHING OF WHATEVER WIDTH THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY, AND THEN LATER ON WORRY ABOUT THE MEETS AND BOUNDS FOR THAT, THAT DRAWING. 
          I, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT, YOU KNOW, TO GET US STARTED. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A DRAWING. 
          WE'RE MEETING, SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WE, RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A, UH, DRAWING WITH THE, UH, ROAD GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY. 
          I'M SORRY, RICHARD . 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'RE MEETING WITH DAVID ON FRIDAY ABOUT THE SEWER ISSUE, SO WE'LL, RIGHT. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HAMMER SOME THINGS OUT THEN. 
          WELL, YES. 
          UM, 
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BUT I'D ALSO LIKE OUR ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HAVE A BIGGER CONVERSATION THAN JUST WITH DAVID. 
          YEP. 
          BUT CERTAINLY START THERE. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE SCREEN, YOU SEE RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE EXISTING ROAD GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY, AND I THINK THIS WAS A CONCERN ABOUT COMING IN AND COMING OUT. 
          UH, WHEN WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, MAYBE THE ENGINEERS MAY WANNA LOOK AT MAYBE WIDENING THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO IT'S MAKES THE TURNING, UH, RADIUS NOT AS, AS STEEP. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS COMING OFF THE BRIDGE STRAIGHT DOWN FOR THE, UH, EYESIGHT. 
          SO I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU AND THE ENGINEERS FURTHER DISCUSS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AND, AND WORK WITH YOUR STAFF AND GET SOMETHING PULLED TOGETHER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M SURE WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY OF MAKING EVERYTHING HAPPEN. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR, UM, YOUR RESPONSIVENESS, UM, WORKING WITH A TOWN ON THE SEWER, UH, RENTAL ISSUE THAT WAS A BIG RELIEF TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          WELL, THANK, THANK YOU FOR INVITING US. 
          AND, UH, IF, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS, UM, WE'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, ADDRESS THEM. 
          BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT START AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING WORKING TOGETHER. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          GOOD NIGHT. 
          THANKS. 
          GOOD, THANKS. 
          OKAY, NEXT ON THE AGENDA FOR, AND YOU'RE WELCOME IN THAT WE PUT YOU FIRST ON THIS VERY LONG AGENDA, . 
          OH, YES. 
          THANKS TO THAT, PAT. 
          THANKS TO THAT, WE, WE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO OUR POLICE REFORM MEETING RIGHT NOW. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          IT'S ALL, ALTHOUGH THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS ON YOUR AGENDA, I WAS INTERESTED IN HEARING ABOUT IT. 
           WELL, IT'S GONNA BE ON, IT'S GONNA BE ON CABLE, AND IT'S ALSO STREAMING, AND IT'S, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE ROUTINE. 
          YES. 
          WELL, IF I DON'T SEE, YOU ALL HAVE A VERY HAPPY AND SAFE THANKSGIVING. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          VERY GOOD THANKSGIVING. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          BYE-BYE. 
          BYE-BYE. 
          YOU TOO. 
          HI. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY, SO NEXT WE HAVE THE LEAF BLOWER, UM, LEGISLATION PROPOSAL. 
          AND WE HAVE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE . 
          I HAVE THE DRONE. 
          I HAVE THE DRONE AS THE NEXT ISSUE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE COULD HAVE, UH, PETE DISCUSSING THE DRONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING ALL. 
          AND CAPTAIN VALENTINE, UH, THERE'S ONLY A, UH, A FEW PURCHASE ORDERS THAT ARE IN QUESTION. 
          UH, ONE NATURALLY IS THE DRONE. 
          UH, I'VE TALKED TO CAPTAIN VALENTINE AND HE HAS INFORMED ME THAT THE WARRANTY ON THE PARTS, UM, THEY VARY IN, UH, AS TO WHAT PARTS THEY ARE. 
          BUT THE, UH, THE MAIN GIST OF THE WARRANTY IS THEIR PARTS WILL BE WARRANTIED FOR TWO YEARS. 
          UM, NATURALLY, IF, UH, WE DAMAGE IT, UH, OURSELVES, THE, THE WARRANTY IS SNU AND VOID, BUT ANY OF THEIR PARTS, THEY'RE WARRANTYING FOR TWO YEARS. 
          UM, THE REPAIR COST IS, UM, $4,287, AND THE VENDOR IS DRONE NERDS INCORPORATED. 
          A NEW DRONE, UH, ACCORDING TO VALENTINE, IS ABOUT EIGHT GRAND. 
          SO I, I, I HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT WE AT LEAST GET THIS, THIS ONE REPAIRED. 
          UH, IS CAPTAIN VALENTINE COMING ON? UH, I THOUGHT HE WAS, UM, OBVIOUSLY HE'S NOT NOW FRANCIS, I, UH, I AGREED TO THE CHIEF IS HERE. 
          I AGREED TO SPEAK ON IT AS BEST AS I COULD. 
          HE COULDN'T HIT  BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY CHA, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SEVERAL YEARS OLD, THIS DRONE, AND THERE'S SO MANY CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO DRONES. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, FOR THIS DRONE, WE PROBABLY NEED A PILOT'S LICENSE, RIGHT. 
          . 
          'CAUSE IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S MORE THAN 249 GRAMS, I'M SURE. 
          BECAUSE THESE EARLY VERSIONS WERE NEVER LESS THAN 250 GRAMS. UM, AND IS THIS THE TIME TO PUT, YOU KNOW, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INTO A REPAIR AS OPPOSED TO GETTING A NEW ONE? GETTING, GETTING A NEW ONE THAT THE RESOLUTION OF THE CAMERAS ARE SO MUCH BETTER. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S WORTH IT TO DO THIS. 
          I, WE, WE JUST NEED SOME GUIDANCE. 
          I'D HATE TO PUT SO MUCH MONEY INTO THIS AND, AND REALIZE THAT, UM, IT'S A MISTAKE BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY HAS IMPROVED SIGNIFICANTLY JUST IN THE LAST YEAR. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION. 
          IF, IF, IF YOU WANNA HOLD IT OVER ANOTHER WEEK, WE CAN ASK CAPTAIN VALENTINE TO COME WITH HIS SPECIALIZATION IN THIS. 
          I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HE TOLD ME IS THAT THIS, THIS DEVICE AND THIS UNIT WOULD BE OVER $8,000 TO REPLACE. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S STILL GOOD TECHNOLOGY. 
          IT'S 
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STILL ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY. 
          THERE ARE OTHER UNITS OUT THERE THAT ARE LESS EXPENSIVE. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU WANT THE, IF YOU WANT THE ANSWERS, THE TECHNICAL ANSWERS ON THAT, I, I RECOMMEND WE HOLD IT OVER AND, AND, AND HE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS TONIGHT. 
          IT'S HIS BIRTHDAY. 
          HE HAD A FAMILY DINNER SCHEDULED. 
          AH, AH, SO THAT'S WHY HE'S NOT HERE. 
          BUT, UM, OKAY. 
          HE, HE'LL MAKE HIMSELF AVAILABLE NEXT, NEXT WEEK IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD PREFER. 
          I, I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          CHRIS, HOW, THIS IS JOE, I, I, THE, THE CAMERA IS THE BIG, UH, TICKET ITEM ON THAT DRONE. 
          THEY HAVE A VERY EXPENSIVE CAMERA ON THAT, AND THAT IS WHAT REALLY UPPED THE COST ON THAT. 
          NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE PHOTO ON TODO AND  TOO, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE CAMERA THAT REALLY COST, UH, A LOT OF MONEY. 
          YEAH, JOE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION. 
          THE, THE OPTICS ON THAT ARE FAR SUPERIOR TO ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN GET FOR ANYTHING IN, AT THE PRICE POINT BELOW THE REPAIR, FISHING. 
          A FEW OTHER THINGS, JOE, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE, UH, POLICE DRONE? UM, SOMEWHAT. 
          I MEAN, I, WE'VE FLOWN TOGETHER A COUPLE OF TIMES AND, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT THE REAL COST ON THAT DRONE WAS? THEY UPGRADED THE CAMERA. 
          THAT, AND, UH, THAT CAMERA IS REALLY WHAT THEY REALLY PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          PROBABLY WELL, IN THAT, IN THAT CASE, THEN I WOULD KNOW, HAVE NO ISSUE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY, IS COULD YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. OKAY. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY GINA? NO, I, I DON'T, BUT, BUT THE, THE, NO, I JUST HAD A QUICK, THE CAMERA WASN'T BEING REPLACED. 
          IT WAS JUST THE BODY OF THE DRONE WAS BEING REPLACED. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 
          THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BE CLEAR THEN. 
          I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          NO, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY. 
          BUT, UH, I THINK FRANCIS HAS A GOOD QUESTION, SO I THINK WE SHOULD GET AN ANSWER TO IT. 
          YEAH, WHY DON'T WE JUST, IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA HURT US TO, TO WAIT AN EXTRA WEEK. 
          SO WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE JUST WAIT AND GET ADVANCE? I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          AND JUST BE, YOU KNOW, AND HEAR WHAT CAPTAIN VALENTINE HAS TO SAY AND JUST WEIGH THOSE, YOU KNOW, WEIGH WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS, OFFERINGS, WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE, THAT'S ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW WE HAVE LEAFBLOWER. 
          LEAFBLOWER. 
          OH, I GOT A FEW MORE. 
          OH, YOU GOT MORE PURCHASE ORDERS. 
          UH, THE NEXT, AH, YOU SEE THIS WAS REALLY ON FOR THE DRONE. 
          AH, OTHERS IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALL VERY QUICK. 
          UH, AGAIN, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING, UH, TASERS SEVEN NEW C E W TASERS WITH ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENTS TO REPLACE SOME, UH, OLD TASERS THAT THEY HAVE. 
          UH, CHIEF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPAND ON THAT? YEAH. 
          I, THESE TASER TA TASERS THAT HAVE, UH, VIDEO CAPABILITY WHEN THEY'RE ACTIVATED. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          THESE WE'RE ASKING FOR THREE TASERS, AND IT'S TASER MODEL SEVEN. 
          AND THESE ARE TO REPLACE OUTDATED DEVICES, UM, THAT ARE END OF LIFE. 
          WE GET NO MORE, TASER DOESN'T SUPPORT THEM ANYMORE, SO WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T REPAIR THEM. 
          UM, THEY DO HAVE THE CAMERAS, AND THESE ARE FOR OUR DRUG AND ALCOHOL TASK FORCE MEMBERS WHO ARE IN, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THEM ARMED WITH LESS THAN LETHAL, UM, EQUIPMENT. 
          SO I, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT, THAT WE GET THESE REPLACED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL APPROVED. 
          ALL APPROVED. 
          NO ISSUE. 
          I APPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT ONE, UH, IS A, UH, IT'S A GRANT FOR THE T D Y C C. 
          IT'S FOR 50. 
          THEY WANNA SPEND $5,700, UH, FOR PROJECTION EQUIPMENT. 
          UH, KEYBOARDS, UH, TVS, UH, I TALKED TO TERRENCE. 
          AND, UH, THIS IS ALL REIMBURSABLE SUPPLIES. 
          UM, IS TERRENCE ON? YES, MA'AM. 
          YES. 
          TERRENCE, COULD YOU EXPAND ON, UH, ON THIS PROJECT? SURELY. 
          SO, UM, WESTCHESTER COUNTY, UH, YOUTH BUREAU, WE GOT A GRANT, 235,000 THAT WE CAN DRAW FROM. 
          UH, UNLIKELY THAT WE'LL USE ALL OF IT DUE TO THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE HAVE. 
          IT DOES END BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          IT IS MOST LIKELY A RENEWABLE GRANT, UM, IN THE FIRST QUARTER, BUT NOT TOTALLY SOLIDIFIED YET. 
          BUT CURRENTLY WE HAVE 40 KIDS IN THIS PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVE A MAXIMUM ABOUT 60, 65 BECAUSE OF COVID, WE NEED TO KEEP, UH, SEPARATION, OF COURSE DISTANCING. 
          BUT WE HAVE NUMEROUS KIDS THAT ARE IN THE SAME CLASS. 
          SO WE ARE TRYING TO, RATHER THAN EACH OF THEM HAVING THEIR OWN COMPUTERS, WHICH SOMETIMES THEY FORGET, UM, 
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TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE OF A CLASSROOM SETTING. 
          WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE SCHOOLS AND ALL, AND THEY THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD IDEA AS WELL TO PUT IT ON THE LARGER SCREEN SO THAT OUR AIDES THAT ARE THERE CAN SEE IT A LOT BETTER AND WORK WITH THE KIDS INDEPENDENTLY, UH, ALONG WITH THE TEACHER THAT'S ON THE SCREEN. 
          SO IT WOULD BE A MAJOR HELP IN THAT SENSE. 
          AND HELPING WITH THE SOCIAL DISTANCING AT THE SAME TIME. 
          UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, T D Y C C HAVE, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE. 
          UM, JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE, BE THE BUDGET FOR IT AS WELL. 
          BUT, UH, IT'S A GREAT ADVANTAGE TO TEACHING AT THAT TIME. 
          SO IS THIS MATCHING GRANT MONEY? IS THIS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO MATCH? IT'S, NO, NO. 
          ALL, ALL THROUGH THE GRANT MONEY. 
          WE JUST HAVE TO PUT IT OUT FIRST. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OH, AND THAT WOULD BE REIMBURSED, CORRECT. 
          OH, SO THIS WOULD BE VIA RESOLUTION. 
          UH, THE RESOLUTION WAS PUT ON THE PREVIOUS AGENDA. 
          OH. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WAS PASSED. 
          THAT WAS, THAT WAS A GRANT THAT WAS PASSED. 
          THAT WAS THE GRANT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS NOT ADDITIONAL MONEY. 
          NO, THIS IS THE SAME ONE. 
          CORRECT. 
          I, UH, UH, FURTHER GOT, BECAUSE OF THE HIGH PRICE TAG, WE SENT THE INFORMATION FORWARD TO, UH, BERNIE DEAN, WHO IS, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR WITH THE COUNTY. 
          AND HE APPROVED IT. 
          I HAVE IT IN EMAIL  THAT, UH, WE TALKED HIM THROUGH WITH IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          SO WE FURTHER CHECKED ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD GET IT BACK IN WHAT WE WERE DOING. 
          AND HE DID AGREE WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WRITING. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST ASK. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          CAN I JUST, I JUST HAD A QUESTION THAT I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE POLICE CHIEF JUST ABOUT THE TASER FOR A SECOND. 
          IS THE CHIEF FINE AFTER, RIGHT AFTER THIS? OH, OKAY. 
          UH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO GET US SOME TASERS ALSO, PAUL, NO, UH, . 
          I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE TASERS. 
          WE SOMETIMES COULD USE THEM, SO I THINK WE'RE NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          BAD JOKE. 
          BUT IT'S, I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THIS ONE. 
          TERENCE, I THINK, I MEAN, NOT TERRACE. 
          YES. 
          BUT, UM, PETE IN GENERAL, PETE, IF WE PASS SOMETHING BY RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD AND THE BOARD VOTES FOR IT, UM, I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO US BECAUSE THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR WHAT WE ALREADY VOTED FOR, UM, HAS BEEN APPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, NOTED. 
          UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, RICH. 
          ARE YOU ON RICH JUAN? I AM. 
          UH, THIS IS FOR $33,000, UH, FOR SERVICES FOR THE IP, UH, SURVEILLANCE EQUIPMENT AT THE T D Y C C. 
          UM, RICH, COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT? SURE. 
          AND I THINK, UH, TERRENCE AND, UH, COMMISSIONER EARLIER ALSO ON, UM, SO WE SPOKE TO, UH, TERRENCE AND ANDRE TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          UM, THERE WAS A NEED FOR CAMERAS, UH, FOR SECURITY PURPOSES AT THE CENTER, UH, ALONG WITH AN ALARM SYSTEM. 
          AND WE WERE ABLE TO, THROUGH SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT WERE UNSPENT, RATHER THAN GO TO CAPITAL NEXT YEAR, UM, BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS FOR THE T D Y C C. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S A NEED OR THERE'S BEEN A NEED, UH, FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR VIDEO FOOTAGE. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO SUPPLY IT. 
          'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A WORKING CAMERA SYSTEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW TERRENCE OR ANDRE, IF YOU WANNA EXPAND ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST TO ADD, THIS IS INFORMATION. 
          UM, THIS STUFF WAS APPROVED FOR 2020 CAPITAL BEFORE COVID HIT. 
          UM, WE HAD TALKED TO YOU ALL BEFORE ABOUT THE MANY NEEDS. 
          YES. 
          POLICE CHIEF HAS COME TO US THREE TIMES IN THIS YEAR, UM, A AS WELL AS LAST YEAR, LOOKING FOR FOOTAGE OF PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND THE PARK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO GIVE IT AS WELL AS THINGS GOING ON IN THE BUILDING. 
          UM, AND, UH, THERE'S SOME, DEFINITELY SOME SAFETY A AS WELL AS SECURITY ISSUES WITH NOT HAVING IT. 
          AND AS WAS TALKED ABOUT, OUR ALARM SYSTEM IS OUT AT THE MOMENT AS WELL AND NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED TO FURTHER GO ALONG WITH EVERYTHING WILL THEN BE SYNCED INTO WHAT IS GOING ON WITH TOWN HALL. 
          AND SO THAT THE POLICE OFFICE, POLICE BUILDING WILL BE ABLE TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S ALSO GOING ON INSIDE THE BUILDING IF THEY WERE TO TAP INTO IT WHEN NEEDED. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S A PART OF INTEGRATION THAT WILL BE HELPFUL HERE, AS WELL AS UPGRADE, WHICH IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. 
          AND THIS IS ALL COMPATIBLE WITH OUR EXISTING SYSTEM. 
          SO WHEREAS NOW THERE'S A STANDALONE SYSTEM WHICH IS NOT WORKING OUT GREAT. 
          UH, THIS WOULD BE TIED INTO A UNIFORM SYSTEM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE AT A TOWN HALL. 
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AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE HAVE COMPATIBLE SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT SO THAT, UH, AS BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE SYSTEM THAT OF, OF, OF SIMILAR COMPATIBILITY THAT MAKES IT EASY TO EXTRACT THE DATA. 
          WHEREAS RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT AS EASY AS WE'D LIKE IT TO BE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A YES. 
          YES, I AGREE. 
          YES. 
          I JUST ASKED THE CHIEF, UH, A QUESTION JUST ABOUT THE TASERS. 
          IT'S, IF YOU COULD COME BACK ON CHIEF HERE, PAUL. 
          GOOD. 
          UM, I JUST, UH, I KNEW WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TASERS, I KNEW THAT, REMEMBER READING LIKE ARTICLES, UM, YOU KNOW, DURING THE PAST YEAR JUST ABOUT TASERS. 
          AND I REMEMBER, UM, READING, UM, THAT SOME OF THE NEWER, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE, YOU KNOW, I JUST PULLED IT UP. 
          UM, I JUST GOOGLED IT. 
          WELL, IF RIGHT AFTER YOU TALKED THAT SAID, THE NEWER TASERS ARE NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS THE OLDER ONES. 
          AND THERE WERE CASES, UM, YOU KNOW, IN AROUND THE COUNTRY, UM, WHERE SOMETIMES THEY HAVEN'T WORKED. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, THEN, YOU KNOW, LED TO, UH, DEATHS OF INDIVIDUALS. 
          AND I WONDER IF, UH, YOU OR PEOPLE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE LOOKED INTO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT, UM, SOME PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE HAD ABOUT TASERS AND THE, THE EFFECT OF THE SAFETY AND RELIABILITY. 
          YOU KNOW, PAUL, WE HAVE, WE'RE VERY, UM, EDUCATED ON THE USE OF TASERS, YOU KNOW, AS A RESULT, EVEN MORE SO OF, OF OUR RECENT LITIGATION THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT TASER UPGRADED THE DEVICE, BUT THEY'RE FINDING THAT WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE NOT EFFECTIVE IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF, OF NARCOTICS AND SOMETIMES EVEN ALCOHOL. 
          SO WHEN THEY'RE NOT EFFECTIVE, BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDER THE INFLUENCE AND EVEN SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON, ON THE CONDITIONS, THEY'RE NOT RECOMMENDING TO BE USED IN THOSE SITUATIONS. 
          SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE CHANGED, BUT WE STILL WANNA GIVE OUR OFFICERS MANY LESS THAN LETHAL OPTIONS THAT, THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND, AND THAT ARE SAFE. 
          WE'RE TRAINING THEM DIFFERENTLY NOW. 
          WE'RE TRAINING THEM NOT TO USE THEM FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IN SOME KIND OF DISTRESS, WHETHER IT'S DRUG INDUCED OR WHETHER IT'S A PSYCHOSIS TYPE DISTRESS. 
          SO THE TRAINING HAS CHANGED, BUT THE DEVICE IS STILL AFFECTED WHEN IT'S APPLIED PROPERLY. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HEY, UH, THE LAST ITEM IS, UH, THE ASSESSOR. 
          EDIE IS, EDIE WAS ON, I DON'T KNOW, UH, IT'S IN REFERENCE TO AN ASSESSMENT REVIVAL PROJECT. 
          UH, IT'S FOR $59,000. 
          UM, EDIE, ARE YOU STILL THERE? NO, SHE'S NOT. 
          UH, IT'S FROM TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. 
          UH, AND I GUESS IT HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, REASSESSMENT AGAIN, IT'S FOR $59,600. 
          IT WAS ON, I DON'T SEE EDIE, UH, I KNOW SHE'S COMING BACK. 
          UM, THIS THE LAST ONE. 
          I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          DON'T, OKAY. 
          I, I, SHE WAS HERE. 
          I DON'T DUNNO WHAT HAPPENED TO HER. 
          E YOU STILL HERE? OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANOTHER ONE YOU HAVE? NO, THAT'S IT. 
          TIME. 
          THAT'S CALL FOR ME. 
          I'LL, I'M CALLING HER NOW. 
          UM, ARE Y'ALL CALLING HER? OKAY. 
          SO GO AHEAD IF YOU WANNA, Y'ALL WANNA MOVE FORWARD. 
          WE'RE ALL DONE. 
          THERE SHE IS. 
          IS SHE THERE? YEAH, SHE'S ON, SEE WHAT GINA CALLS  RIGHT THERE. 
          I JUMP. 
          HI. 
          HI THERE. 
          HI. 
          UH, GREAT EDEDIE, UH, IN REFERENCE TO, UH, REQUISITION THAT, UH, YOU PUT IN FOR THE ASSESSMENT REVIVAL PROJECT FROM TYLER FOR $59,000. 
          CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT? YES. 
          SO WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT IS IN MY BUDGET. 
          UM, I BELIEVE IT IS $750,000. 
          THAT'S IN ONE OF MY LINES. 
          AND THAT IS JUST A PAYMENT FOR A PORTION OF THEIR SERVICES, UM, ALREADY RENDERED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL BE NOW, NOW THAT WE'RE IN NOVEMBER, WE, AND, AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THIS, 
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BUT WE'LL BE GETTING THESE INVOICES, UM, EVERY MONTH FROM NOW ON UNTIL JUNE. 
          THIS AMOUNT? NO, IT'LL VARY EVERY TIME BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF SERVICES THAT THEY DO WITHIN A MONTH PERIOD. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU HAVE AN EXISTING CONTRACT WITH THEM? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          AS LONG AS IT'S A CONTRACT WE HAVE, WE HAVE LEGAL, UH, WE HAVE TO PAY 'EM OBLIGATION, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          YEP. 
          IS THIS IN THE BUDGET? YES, IT'S IN THE, ACTUALLY IT'S IN THE ASSESSMENT DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET. 
          IT'S NOT A CAPITAL PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WAS IN LAST YEAR. 
          LAST YEAR'S THE 2020 BUDGET RATHER THAN THE 2021. 
          THERE WAS A SMALL PORTION OF, UM, NO, IT WASN'T IN 19. 
          IT WAS A, IT WAS A CHUNK OF IT. 
          NO, 2020 WAS, YEAH, COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS IN 20 AND THE REMAINING MONIES, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT $250,000 IN 2020. 
          UM, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GOING TO USE ALL THAT MONEY 'CAUSE WE GOT A LATE START BECAUSE OF COVID AND THE REMAINING PORTION OF THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE IN, UM, IN 2021. 
          SO WHATEVER WE DON'T, BECAUSE IT'S CONTRACTUAL, UM, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY LEFTOVER MONEY, BUT WHATEVER THAT MONEY IS IN 2020, I'LL ASK TO ROLL OVER TO 2021. 
          THE ANTICIPATION WAS THAT, THAT THAT WAS THE AMOUNT WE WERE GONNA EXPEND IN THE CONTRACT. 
          HOW MUCH IS THE AMOUNT, PETE? $59,605 AND 75 CENTS. 
          AND THAT'LL BE COVERED FROM THE 2020 BUDGET. 
          RIGHT? BECAUSE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T AUTHORIZE SOMETHING FOR 2021 IF WE HAVEN'T ADOPTED BUDGET YET. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S 2020. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER $200,000 IN 2020 AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND NEEDY WILL HAVE ANOTHER ONE LIKE THIS IN DECEMBER. 
          I BELIEVE. 
          IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, PETE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL COMING OUTTA YOUR 2020 MONEY. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. 
          PERFECT. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU PEOPLE TAKING YOUR TIME AND, UH, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, NIGHT, PETE. 
          GREAT. 
          NEXT WE HAVE THE LEAF BLOWER LAW. 
          GREAT. 
          WE HAVE, UH, UH, TERRITORY AND MIKE SIEGEL. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, . 
          OKAY. 
          IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST FROM SUPERVISOR FINER THE C A C REPAIRED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CRAFTING A LURE LIMITING THE USE OF BLOWERS THAT YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING TONIGHT, UM, RESEARCH THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE PAST ESTABLISHES THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF THE USE OF BLOWERS NOISE, THE BLOWING OF HARMFUL MATTER AND SOIL AND MICROORGANISM DESTRUCTION. 
          THE LAW THAT WOULD BE CREATED WOULD CONTAIN SEVERAL EXCEPTIONS TO ALLOW FOR UNIQUE SITUATIONS. 
          IT SIMPLIFIES ENFORCEMENTS AS IT IS CALENDAR DRIVEN. 
          IN THE PAST, THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE AND THIS BECOMES CALENDAR DRIVEN. 
          I AND MICHAEL SIEGEL ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          NOW, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE A COPY OF THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          COULD YOU MAYBE GIVE US LIKE A SUMMARY BECAUSE, UH, PEOPLE WATCHING IT ON TV MAY NOT BE AWARE OF EVERYTHING. 
          SURELY PAUL? NO PROBLEM. 
          WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT THE TOWN DO IS THAT WE BANNED GASOLINE AND ELECTRIC BLOWERS. 
          AND SINCE WE ARE TALKING TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE C A C HAS DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF BOTH THE VERY POWERFUL WINDS THAT COME OUT OF THE BLOWERS. 
          AND THE NOISE LEVELS ARE THE SAME BETWEEN ELECTRIC AND GAS DRIVEN BLOWERS. 
          SO THAT, UH, THE C A C BELIEVES THAT IT IS IMPORTANT IF YOU'RE ADDRESSING THESE PROBLEMS TO INCLUDE ELECTRIC BLOWERS AS WELL. 
          WE ONLY FOUND ON THE MARKET CURRENTLY FIVE ELECTRIC BLOWERS THAT WERE BELOW THE, UH, LEVELS THAT THE GAS BLOWERS WERE. 
          SO IT WAS A, IT WAS A, A NON-ISSUE IN TERMS OF POWER SOURCE OF THE BLOWER. 
          WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS THAT WE BASICALLY, WE BAND BLOWER USE IS MARCH 1ST TO MAY 15TH, AND THAT'S THE SPRING CLEANUP PERIOD. 
          AND MOST GARDENERS TREAT SPRING CLEANUP AS A ONE DAY VISIT. 
          AND IT'S A SEPARATE CHARGE, UH, TO THEIR PATRON. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A BREAKOUT PERIOD FROM OCTOBER 15TH TO DECEMBER 15TH, AND THAT'S THE FALL CLEANUP PERIOD FOR LEAVES. 
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AND UNLIKE SOME COMMUNITIES, WE WENT FOR A LITTLE BIT WIDER PERIOD HERE SIMPLY BECAUSE LEAVES FALL, DEPENDING UPON THE TEMPERATURE, THEY CAN FALL EARLY, THEY CAN FALL LATE. 
          AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAKE TOO NARROW A WINDOW THERE, UM, DURING THOSE CLEANUP PERIODS THAT ARE ALLOWED, BLOWERS MAY BE USED DURING THE HOURS MONDAY TO FRIDAY OF 9:00 AM TO 3:00 PM AND THE CONCERN THERE WAS THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T WANT THINGS BEING BLOWN UP WHILE CHILDREN WERE COMING HOME FROM SCHOOL OR OUT PLAYING. 
          AND ON THE WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS FROM 10:00 AM TO 5:00 PM WE HAD EXCEPTIONS WE'D ALLOW AND THE SUPERVISOR TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY DURING THESE OTHER PERIODS. 
          FOR INSTANCE, I THINK WE'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS WHERE WE'VE HAD MICROBURSTS AND, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER WE HAVE EXTENSIVE TREE DAMAGE AND LEAVES DOWN. 
          SO THIS WOULD GIVE THE SUPERVISOR THE ABILITY TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY USE WITHIN TWO FEET OF OUTDOOR EQUIPMENT LIKE AIR CONDITIONING, COMPRESSORS, GENERATORS, AND OTHER OUTDOOR MACHINERY AND RELATED PIPING AND WIRING EXPOSED ABOVE GROUND. 
          THIS IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES SOME OF THESE AREAS REALLY AREN'T SAFE TO, I GUESS, STICK YOUR HAND IN. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE A VERY LIMITED USE, BUT WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE, IF THEY HAD TO DO CLEAN OUT AN AREA AROUND SOME A SO, UH, A ITEM LIKE THAT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, THERE IS AN EXCEPTION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE IN THEIR OPERATIONS THEY ARE AFFECTING PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE ROADS AND THE SIDEWALKS. 
          AND VERY OFTEN I THINK ONE OF THE BIG ONES ON THIS IS LIKE WHEN THEY'RE TAKING DOWN TREES, THIS IS AN ISSUE AND WE REALLY NEED WALKWAYS AND THE STREET SAFE SO THAT NO ONE HAS AN ACCIDENT. 
          UM, ALSO THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION FOR ACTIVITIES AFFECTING PUBLIC SAFETY ON PUBLIC WALKWAYS, AGAIN, IT'S A, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. 
          AND ON THE PLAYING FIELDS, UH, WITH THE TOWN APPROVAL FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES DUE TO BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS, WE ARE ALL AWARE WE ARE IN A BUDGET CRUNCH PERIOD. 
          AND THE LAST EXCEPTION WE CAME UP WITH, UM, WAS THAT DEBRIS CLEANUP RESULTING FROM AUTHORIZED TREE REMOVALS AND SPECIAL LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          WE, WE, AFTER LISTENING TO, UM, RICHARD FUND FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WE REALIZED THAT THIS WAS ALSO A PROBLEM SOMETIMES WITH COMMERCIAL TREE REMOVALS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA AFFECT THE ROAD AND THAT YOU REALLY WANT THE QUICKEST ROAD CLEANUP POSSIBLE. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, WOULD BE HANDLED THROUGH A, A TREE PERMIT AT THE TIME OF THE TREE PERMIT APPLICATION COMING IN. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE HANDLED. 
          AND THOSE WERE THE ONLY EXCEPTIONS WE HAD. 
          AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS ABOUT THE THOUGHT ON THIS. 
          WE FELT THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD BE IMPORTANT, UM, IF THE TOWN IS GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS, UM, TO PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE CONSISTING OF MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, A MEMBER OF THE C A C, THE COMMISSIONER, OR DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, AND THE COMMISSIONER OR DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION TO FINALIZE THE DETAILS OF THE LAW IN ITS, IN ITS WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE WOULD SEEK TECHNICAL AND PRACTICAL INPUT FROM REPRESENTATIVES FROM LOCAL LANDSCAPERS. 
          'CAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ONE OF THE BIG STAKEHOLDERS IN THE USE OF, UM, BLOWERS. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE SENSITIZED TO THEIR NEEDS, UM, AT ANY TIME. 
          BUT PARTICULARLY IN THIS TIME WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY IS SOMEWHAT SHAKY AND WHATNOT. 
          WE THINK WE'VE ADDRESSED THEM. 
          WE HOPE THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT PEOPLE GET CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, I WOULD MAKE A COMMENT IN TERMS OF THE NOISE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE, EVEN WHEN BLOWERS ARE BEING USED IS VERY OFTEN NOISE FROM LANDSCAPE IS MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE COMING FROM BLOWERS, IT COMING FROM A LAWNMOWER. 
          IT COULD BE COMING FROM MANY OTHER DEVICES THEY USE, WHETHER IT'S COMING FROM ANOTHER DEVICE OR FROM A BLOWER. 
          WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING TOWN LORE THAT ADDRESSES NOISE. 
          AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE WAY IN THOSE, IN THOSE PERIODS WHERE BLOWERS ARE AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS EXCESSIVE NOISE GOING ON, WHICH I REALIZE THEN WE GET BACK INTO HAVING TO MONITOR THE NOISE. 
          BUT WITH ANY NOISE COMPLAINT, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DEAL WITH IT, WHICH IS WHY WE TOOK THIS APPROACH OF BASING IT MORE ON A CALENDAR SCHEDULE SO THAT THERE IS VERY LITTLE PERIOD WHEN, UM, A 
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BLOWER COULD BE USED LEGALLY. 
          UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, ARE YOU, UH, SUGGESTING A SUNSET PROVISION WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE WE CAN ENACT SOMETHING FOR LIKE A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATION WOULD DIE AND WE WOULD THEN, YOU KNOW, COULD RENEW IT OR, OR MAKE CHANGES USE IT SORT OF AS A, A PILOT TEST? I, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE ANYTHING WRONG WITH DOING THAT, PAUL, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE WILL FIND AS WE DO THIS, WE WILL LEARN WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY, UM, SOMETHING, IT'S A STARTING POINT ON THIS AND WE CAN SEE HOW THIS GOES. 
          I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE DO THIS, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF WE COULD GET IT DONE SO THAT IT APPLIES TO, UM, SUMMER OF 2021. 
          YEAH, I MEAN I HAVE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTED, UH, UH, SOME LEGISLATION SHOULD MENTION THAT NOW WITH THE PANDEMIC. 
          UM, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AT HOME AND PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING, YOU KNOW, CRAZY BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T TAKE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, ALL THE NOISE. 
          ALTHOUGH THIS, UH, LEGIS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS I'VE GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, UH, WERE FROM, YOU KNOW, OCTO, YOU KNOW, FROM PAST MONTH AND THE LEGISLATION WOULD STILL ALLOW THE LEAP BLOWERS DURING THE MONTH OF MID-OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE GET INTO A COUPLE OF ISSUES THERE. 
          ONE IS THAT, UM, AGAIN, IT IS EXACTLY WHO'S, WHO'S, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO BE OBSERVANT OF IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE BLOWING, IF THEY'RE BLOWING THE LEAVES. 
          I THINK WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE LEAVES OF PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          IF WE DON'T GET THE LEAVES PICKED UP, THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE ROAD AND THEN THE RAIN COMES AND THEY, THEY'RE LIKE A SHEET OF ICE RED LEAVES. 
          SO THERE IS REALLY, UH, A NEED TO PICK UP THE LEAVES. 
          AND, UM, I REALLY THINK AT THIS TIME WE'RE NOT GOING BACK TO ANY OTHER WAY OF DOING IT BECAUSE WHEN THEY GATHER THEM, THEY'RE NOW TAKING 'EM OFF SITE AND TRUCKS AND, YOU KNOW, CAN GO BACK TO WHEN I WAS VERY, VERY LONG AGO WHEN I WAS YOUNG, PEOPLE USED TO BURN THE LEAVES TO GET RID OF THEM AND THEN THE LATE FIFTIES BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER ISSUE IS, UM, MAN DOING THAT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING WITH THESE LEAVES AND GET THEM OUT OUT OF, OUT OF THE, UH, COMMUNITY. 
          AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE JOB THEY DO REMOVING CARBON DIOXIDE. 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, LEAVES ARE A GOOD THING. 
          THE THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I JUST WANNA MENTION IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO, UH, IRVINGTON, UM, HAD A 11 LE THEM, UH, AND YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PROMOTING A MULCHING. 
          AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT C A C AND THE TOWN SHOULD TAKE IS REALLY TO ENCOURAGE LANDSCAPERS TO MULCH THE LEAVES. 
          IT'S SO MUCH BETTER THAN LEAF BLOWING. 
          UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER FOR THE LAWNS AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD SOLVE A, A BIG, YOU KNOW, PROBLEM. 
          WELL, IT, IT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD WORK TOWARDS IT, PAUL. 
          I THINK, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD, WE, IF WE MET WITH THE LANDSCAPE AS WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT IT'S VIABLE TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. 
          I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE A REALLY LARGE TREE THAT'S DROPPING LEAVES, IT STARTS TO GET TO THE POINT YOU REALLY, YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY SEND SOMETHING THROUGH TO MULCH THAT MUCH, BUT WE CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT. 
          I CERTAINLY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO ENCOURAGE. 
          UM, AND IT'S MOVING THERE. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS EVEN WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO, UM, WORK WITH THEIR GARDENERS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN THERE'S EXCESSIVE BLOWING, IT'S JUST PEOPLE HAVE EXCESSIVE LANDSCAPING DEMANDS ON THEIR, THE GARDENERS IN TERMS OF THE . 
          SO I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THINGS WE CAN WORK WITH THE LANDSCAPING COMMUNITY ON. 
          YEAH, DEFINITELY. 
          ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? NO. 
          OH. 
          UH, I'VE ALWAYS MADE MY POSITION CLEAR THAT I, I REALLY AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE TOWN IMPOSING REGULATIONS THAT IT'S NOT WILLING TO IMPOSE ON ITSELF. 
          AND SO EXEMPTING THE TOWN FROM THE REGULATIONS WASN'T IN THE EARLIER VERSION. 
          AND THEN I SAW SOCIAL, SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THE CALL THAT YOU PUT OUT, THAT THERE'S COMPROMISE LEGISLATION THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING TONIGHT. 
          AND I WASN'T CLEAR WHAT THAT COMPROMISED LEGISLATION WAS. 
          AND THEN I WAS TOLD IT WAS THIS LEGISLATION WHERE IT, THE COMPROMISES, IT EXEMPTS THE TOWN FROM THESE REGULATIONS DOESN'T EXEMPT GOLF COURSES AND IT DOESN'T, UM, EXEMPT CEMETERIES. 
          AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, 
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IF YOU HAVE CEMETERIES EXEMPT GOLF COURSES, EXEMPT AND TOWN PROPERTY EXEMPT, THERE ARE MANY, MANY, MANY PROPERTIES RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ABUT TOWN PROPERTY CEMETERIES OR GOLF COURSES. 
          AND SO WHERE'S THE PEACE AND ENJOYMENT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ABUT OR ARE ADJACENT TO THESE, UH, PARTICULAR ENTITIES. 
          BUT I I, I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING FAIRLY CLOSE THE LAST TIME, BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE COMPROMISE IS LET'S EXEMPT THE TOWN. 
          AND I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU EXEMPT THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, REGARDING, REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NOISE ISSUE MM-HMM. 
          , BUT THIS ALSO MAKES A POINT OF IT DESTROYS THE SOIL AND IT PUTS TOXIC MATERIALS INTO THE AIR. 
          AND THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING THOSE, THOSE, THERE ARE THREE THINGS, NOISE PARTICLE PARTICULATES INTO THE AIR THAT ARE NOT HEALTHY FOR YOU AND DESTROYING THE SOIL. 
          AND SO IF YOU TAKE ALL THREE OF THOSE, THEN THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING. 
          WHETHER OR NOT IT'S TOWN PROPERTY, CEMETERY PROPERTY OR GOLF, GOLF COURSES. 
          AND I MENTIONED GOLF COURSES BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LITIGATION OVER THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO, BECAUSE OF HARDSHIP, BECAUSE OF ECONOMICS, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE ABLE TO BLOW THE LEAVES OFF OF THE GOLF COURSE AND THE CEMETERIES ARE GONNA DO THE SAME THING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHEN THEY DO IT, THEY DO IT WITH FOUR, FOUR BLOWERS. 
          I, I, I'M WELL AWARE OF A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S FOUR BLOWERS AND A VEHICLE THAT'S ALSO A BLOWER AND THEY ALL GO OFF AT THE SAME TIME. 
          AND SO THERE'S NO RESTRICTION HERE ON THE NUMBER OF BLOWERS THAT CAN BE GOING AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE, I GUESS WHAT I, AND I PUT THIS IN AN INTO AN EMAIL BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO JUST SAY THINGS AT A MEETING THAT I DON'T SAY IN ADVANCE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROPOSING THIS IS, I DON'T SEE WHERE THE COMPROMISE HERE IS WHEN THE, WHEN THE COMPROMISE, AT LEAST FOR ME IS IT'S NOT A COMPROMISE BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT I SAID I WAS NOT UNCOMFORTABLE VOTING ON. 
          AND THAT'S EXEMPTING THE TOWN. 
          WELL, WELL FRANCIS, FIRST OFF, LET'S GO, GO TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. 
          WE WE'RE NOT IN ANY WAY EXEMPTING GOLF COURSES OR CEMETERIES. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IN TERMS OF PARKS AND RECS AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY SAFETY ON ROADS AND SIDEWALKS. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST BLOWING AROUND A CEMETERY OR A GOLF COURSE. 
          'CAUSE WE WANT IT NOT TO HAVE ANY LEAVES ON THE GROUND AT ALL IN THE SUMMER. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S QUITE DIFFERENT. 
          OR YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT A FEW SHEDS OF GRASS ON A PATHWAY THAT'LL DRY UP IN 24 HOURS AND BLOW AWAY. 
          I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS WE TRIED TO FIND A MIDPOINT BETWEEN WHAT WE HEARD FROM TOWN STAFF AND WE RECOGNIZE THE CONCERN AND SO MUCH SO THAT QUITE TRUTHFULLY WE ADDED THE ONE ABOUT, UM, AFTER AUTHORIZED TREE REMOVALS. 
          'CAUSE WE REALIZED THAT WAS THE SORT OF THE EXAMPLE WE GOT FROM UM, D P W. 
          AND WE REALIZED THAT WAS A PROBLEM IN TERMS OF KEEPING THE ROAD SAFE FOR A, A PRIVATE TREE REMOVAL. 
          IN WHICH NOW SINCE NOW THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE PERMITTED. 
          IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO CONTROL THEM. 
          I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LET THE DESIRE TO HAVE SOMETHING PERFECT PREVENT THE GOOD FROM HAPPENING. 
          I THINK THAT WE'LL NEVER HAVE A PERFECT LAW. 
          I THINK THAT WE FOUND A LAWSUIT, WHICH I THINK MIKE SIEGEL HAS FORWARDED TO YOU, WHICH WOULD IMPLY THAT A MUNICIPALITY HAS SOME LEEWAY IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING TO ADDRESS EVERY EXCEPTION WHEN PASSING A LAW. 
          'CAUSE THEY WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE WHO HAS ONE MORE EXCEPTION WHY WE DON'T DO THIS. 
          AND IF WE NEVER DO IT, WE'LL NEVER REALLY FIND OUT WHETHER IT'S ENFORCEABLE, WORKABLE. 
          WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNHAPPY. 
          UH, I DO THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IN TERMS OF THINGS BEING BLOWN UP IN THE SUMMER, CHILDREN ARE OUTSIDE. 
          I THINK IN A NORMAL TIME WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T WORKING FROM HOME, THE SUMMER IS ONE OF THE TIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE MORE APT TO BE IN THEIR BACKYARDS ON A DECK OR, UM, HAVING WINDOWS OPENED. 
          AND JUST TO HAVE SOMEONE USING A BLOWER WHEN THERE REALLY ISN'T A NEED IN THE SUMMER IS VERY DISRUPTIVE. 
          UH, AGAIN, IN THE WINTER THERE'S NO REAL REASON IN THE WINTER TO BE USING A BLOWER. 
          SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN COME FROM THIS AND THE TOWN BOARD YOU CAN WORK AMONG YOURSELVES AND 
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SEE HOW YOU CAN COME UP WITH A LEGISLATION. 
          BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE STUMBLING BLOCK BLOCK IS THE TOWN, THE TOWN. 
          AND IT SEEMS A SHAME THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR. 
          IT HAS ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT. 
          IT'S NOT PERFECT. 
          AND I THINK PAUL'S SUGGESTION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT IT IN TERMS OF SOMETHING TO BE REVIEWED AND I'D SAY GIVE AT LEAST TWO YEARS FOR EITHER MODIFICATIONS OR THAT IT DOESN'T WORK OR PEOPLE REALLY FEEL IT'S NOT A GOOD LAW. 
          BUT UNLESS WE TRY IT, WE'LL NEVER KNOW. 
          AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS UMPTEEN TIMES AND WE'VE COME BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THIS. 
          I THINK AT THIS POINT THERE'S NO, UM, DOUBT ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT REALLY DOWN TO CRAFTING THE LAW AND HONEY, THAT'S KIND OF YOU GUYS, GUYS BAILIWICK NOT THE CACS TO GET THE LAW CRAFTED. 
          AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE WAS A LAWSUIT IN SCARSDALE ABOUT LEAF BLOWERS. 
          IT WAS PEOPLE VERSUS POLIO AGAIN WAS ONE 70 MISCELLANEOUS SECOND, 10 17, 19 96. 
          AND THE COURT IN THAT CASE, UM, SAID THAT, UH, A MUNICIPALITY LIKE SCARSDALE COULD ALLOW LEAF BLOWERS TO BE USED UP FOR POST, UH, WINTER CLEANUP AND DISPOSAL OF THE GREAT VOLUMES OF FALL LEAVES. 
          AND THEY DID NOT PRECLUDE EXEMPTIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES. 
          AND WHEN YOU CRAFTED THE LAW, YOU TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE LITIGATION, THE RESULTS OF THE LITIGATION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS LAW IS NOT PERFECT. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THAT THERE WERE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, YOU KNOW, INVOLVED IN HAVING A LEAF . 
          BUT MEANWHILE A GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE, UH, THEY JUST CAN'T TAKE ALL THE NOISE. 
          IRVINGTON JUST PASSED THE LAW. 
          UM, I THINK ABOUT WITHIN THE PAST MONTH, LARGEMONT PASSED THE LAW COMMUNITIES ALL OVER WESTCHESTER ARE REACTING TO THE PUBLIC DEMAND TO DO SOMETHING. 
          SO I FEEL THAT IF WE TRIED SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW AND IT DOESN'T WORK, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS REPEAL IT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, HAVING MORE PEACE AND QUIET. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO STUDY AT HOME WHEN THE THE LEAF BLOWERS ARE ARE ON. 
          AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THE, OF THE TOWN IS, IS WORKING AT HOME OR STUDYING AT HOME AND, OR I MEAN, THE PANDEMIC IS NOT GONNA BE OVER UNTIL, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY UNTIL AT LEAST YOU KNOW, THE, THE SUMMER OR OR OR FALL OF, OF NEXT YEAR. 
          SO THIS COULD PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH, UM, WITH SOME REAL GOOD, YOU KNOW, GOOD RELIEF. 
          I THINK. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT I THINK TO FRANCIS'S POINT, IF WE'RE PUTTING SOMETHING IN PLACE BUT WE'RE NOT WALKING THE WALK, YOU UNDERSTAND, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE ARE NOT DOING SOMETHING TO PREVENT OR TO REDUCE THE NOISE LEVEL FOR THOSE WHO ARE LIVING CLOSE TO OUR PROPERTIES. 
          SO I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS SOMETHING THAT IT AFFECTS EVERYONE INCLUDING THE TOWN BECAUSE YEAH, BUT THE QUESTION IS THAT JERRY YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. 
          LIKE, I FEEL LIKE IN AN IDEAL WORLD, YOU'RE A THOUSAND PERCENT CORRECT, BUT YOU'RE, REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME. 
          I JUST NEED TO MAKE THAT, IN AN IDEAL WORLD, YOU'RE A THOUSAND, YOU KNOW, BOTH YOU AND FRANCIS ARE MAKING, YOU KNOW, VALID POINTS. 
          BUT WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSIONER, YOU, VICTOR OSI, HE SAID IT'S NOT WORKABLE FOR THE DEPARTMENT UNLESS WE PROVIDE THEM WITH MORE, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND RESOURCES, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANNA TAX PIKE. 
          JERRY SAID THE SAME THING FOR HIS DEPARTMENT. 
          SO THIS LAW IS NOT THE BEST LAW, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, IT ENABLES THE TOWN TO CONTINUE TO FUNCTION, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT INCREASING TAXES BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO SEE A TAX INCREASE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I FEEL THAT, UM, IF WE TRIED THE LAWN AS IT'S WORDED AND, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL, THE GOAL IS WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY, UH, LOOK AT DIFFERENT MACHINES THAT THEY COULD USE, YOU KNOW, OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THEN IT COULD EVOLVE INTO THE TOWN NOT EXEMPTING THEMSELVES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER, AFTER A PERIOD COME AND EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, COMPLYING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN MAYBE ONE COMPROMISE WOULD BE TO, UM, UM, ADOPT, YOU KNOW, THE 
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LAW AS DRAFTED AND GIVE THE TOWN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS TO, UM, WORK OUT THE DETAILS AND ALSO TO PUT A SUN SUNSET PROVISION ON, ON THE LAW. 
          SO IF WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PUT A SUNSET PROVISION, I JUST THINK THAT, I'M TELLING YOU, I, I GET MORE COMPLAINTS ABOUT LEAF BLOWERS THAN PRACTICALLY ANYTHING. 
          MOST OF THEM CAN I JUMP IN FOR A MINUTE, PLEASE. 
          UH, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT PERFECTLY AND I AM ONE OF THOSE RESIDENTS THAT IS WORKING FROM HOME AND I HEAR THEM, THE LEAF LOADS GOING ON ALL DAY LONG. 
          BUT MY, THE, THE POINT AND, AND, AND I KNOW YOU AGREE WITH THE POINT, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A LAW THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO COMPLY WITH. 
          NOT THAT WE KEEP GIVING EXEMPTIONS TO SOME 'CAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR. 
          SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO RE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE RESIDENTS NOT BE ABLE TO GET THEIR LAWNS DONE, BUT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR LAWNS BEAUTIFUL. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MAKE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT WE'RE NOT. 
          THE PROBLEM IS, AND THIS WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL VERSION, THIS WAS ADDED IN THE SO-CALLED COMPROMISE, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          OKAY. 
          MAY I ADDRESS THAT? PLEASE? CAN. 
          WE MET WITH YOU FOLKS AND WE HEARD FROM, FROM THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          I'LL TELL YOU THAT I WAS SOMEONE WHO ALWAYS HAD TROUBLE WITH THIS IDEA IN THE PAST, AND I WAS VERY STUBBORN ABOUT IT, THAT I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND ASKING THE CITIZENS TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN WOULDN'T DO BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT GINA. 
          IT JUST, IT DOESN'T SIT WELL. 
          IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF LIKE WHEN YOU'RE A KID AND YOUR PARENTS DO SOMETHING AND THEY SAY, BUT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. 
          YOU'RE A CHILD. 
          SO, SO THE ONLY THING IS THAT I THINK  NO, THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT THAT IS OKAY. 
          NO  . 
          SO THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS THAT WHEN WE, WE MET THE LAST TIME AND, AND, AND PARK, UH, D P W INDICATED WHERE THEIR CONCERN WAS AND, AND PARKS AND RECS. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PLAY I THINK A LITTLE BIT WITH MAKING IT MORE RESTRICTIVE TO SPECIFIC INSTANCES WHERE THEY FEEL THEY HAVE NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE IN TERMS OF SAFETY. 
          BECAUSE I THINK IF THE ISSUE IS SAFETY, AND, AND I AGREE WITH YOU AND I WOULD SAY THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, MY OWN PROPERTY, I DO NOT HAVE THE GARDENER USE A BLOWER OTHER THAN TO REMOVE LEAVES. 
          AND THAT'S A STANDING THING TO BLOW. 
          AND MANY GARDENERS STILL CONTINUE TO BLOW PROPERTIES IN THE SUMMER. 
          AND YET MANY HOMEOWNERS LIKE MYSELF HAVE CEASED TO HAVE THE BLOWER USED ON THEIR PROPERTY IN THE SUMMER. 
          SO PERHAPS OUR PLACES ARE NOT MANICURED QUITE AS PERFECTLY BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          AND I THINK IF THE STANDARD WE'RE ASKING FOR THE HOMEOWNER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A FEW PIECES OF DRIED GRASS ON A WALKWAY OR SOMETHING, THEN I THINK IF WE WANNA ASK THAT STANDARD OF PARKS AND RECS, AND IF SOMEONE CRITICIZES THEM, THEN THE RESPONSE IS, BUT WE HAVE A BLOWER LAW AND THEY CAN'T MANAGE TO DO THIS WITHOUT A BLOWER. 
          AND QUITE TRUTHFULLY, WE'VE SET UP THE LAW SO THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT. 
          BUT I THINK MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD REALLY DO IS WORK WITH PARKS AND ME AND D B W TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT USES THEY FEEL THEY CAN'T GIVE UP USING THE BLOWER. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE PERHAPS ONE WAY OF APPROACHING IT. 
          BUT I THINK IF WE ALWAYS SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE, UH, TOWN DEPARTMENTS DON'T WANT IT OR WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT BECAUSE WE WON'T DO IT UNLESS THE TOWN DEPARTMENTS COMPLY. 
          WE ARE BASICALLY SAYING WE WILL NEVER HAVE A LAW. 
          AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY AT THIS POINT WANTS A LAW. 
          UM, IT PRIMARILY IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE NOISE ISSUE, BUT IT'S A LEGITIMATE ISSUE AND IT IS AN ISSUE IN THE SUMMER IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE USING BLOWERS IN THE SUMMER 'CAUSE YOU'RE OUTSIDE. 
          SO EVEN IN A NON PANDEMIC ENVIRONMENT, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO REAL HORTICULTURAL REASON TO BE USING A BLOWER IN THE SUMMER AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WINTER. 
          HI, CAN I SAY A FEW THINGS? CAN I JUMP IN FOR A MINUTE? YEAH. 
          BECAUSE, UH, I, I SAW THIS, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT THAT CAME OUT ON OCTOBER 25TH AND HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO RICHARD ABOUT THAT. 
          AND I, AND I SEE THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS HEARD SOME OF OUR CONCERNS AND, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          BUT I, I THINK AS, AS THE BOARD AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THE LEAF BLOWER NOISE THAT I THINK DISRUPTS MOST RESIDENTS IS DURING THE, YOU KNOW, THE LEAF, UH, 
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UH, CLEARING SEASON AND THE SPRING, UH, THE EARLY SUMMER PREPARATION, WHICH THIS LAW MEANS EVERYONE WILL BE, BE GOING BY THOSE GUIDELINES, UM, FROM LIKE OCTOBER 15TH TO DECEMBER 15TH, WHICH I STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE, UH, AS A COMMITTEE AND, AND IF WE MEET, 'CAUSE THE RECOMMENDATION, PAUL, IS FOR US TO STILL MEET AND WORK OUT SOME TECHNICAL DETAILS. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE SAW IT. 
          SO WE WOULD STILL SIT DOWN. 
          I DID WRITE AN EMAIL SAYING THAT I DO THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S LANDSCAPERS GOLF COURSES, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT CEMETERIES, BUT THAT, THAT'S A VALID, YOU KNOW, POINT TOO. 
          AND IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, I WOULD WANNA INCLUDE, UH, UH, CEMETERIES AND GOLF COURSES FOR THEM. 
          BECAUSE WHAT WAS LEFT OUT ON THIS, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE FEEDBACK ON, ON THIS WRITTEN, WHEN WE SAY FOR PARKS, FOR PUBLIC WALKWAYS AND PLAYING FIELDS, I WOULD ALSO SAY PARKING LOTS BECAUSE, AND WE DO HAVE ROADWAYS THAT ARE PRIVATE THAT ARE IN OUR PARKS. 
          IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT DEALS WITH FOR KEEPING THOSE ROADS, YOU KNOW, SAFE AND CLEAN BECAUSE WE HAVE GRAVEL, WE HAVE PEOPLE RIDE THEIR BIKES, WHATEVER, THAT MIGHT BE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT A GOLF COURSE MAY HAVE FOR THEIR PARKING LOT AREAS FOR, FOR CEMETERIES THAT HAVE ROADS. 
          SO I, I DO THINK THAT THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN, AND I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THE USE OF THESE, THIS EQUIPMENT DURING THE NON, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S NOT SPRING OR FALL, IS A LOT LESS. 
          AND I THINK A LOT OF THE PHONE COMPLAINTS YOU GET, PAUL, ARE DURING THE LEAF COLLECTION SEASON. 
          SO I HOPE WE CAN DIFFERENTIATE THAT. 
          AND THIS IS LIKE JUST TAKING, I THINK, ONE STEP INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DATES LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T FINISH CLEARING OUR LEAVES IN OUR PARKS UNTIL LIKE LATE JANUARY. 
          'CAUSE WE DON'T GET A CHANCE TO GET ALL ALL OF 'EM. 
          SO IF WE HAVE A WARM JANUARY AND STILL HAVE LEAVES COMING DOWN THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN NOW, 'CAUSE WE WOULD COMPLY IN, IN HOW IT'S WRITTEN, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT UNTIL, UH, MARCH 1ST. 
          SO I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME OF THESE OTHER OUTSIDE GROUPS INVOLVED AT THE TABLE AND, AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH AND MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS. 
          THE ONLY, THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR PROBABLY I THINK SINCE ABRAHAM, UH, FOR DECADES, YEARS AND DECADES. 
          AND, UH, AND WE ALWAYS GET HUNG UP BECAUSE IT'S EITHER THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OR PUBLIC WORKS. 
          THERE'S ALWAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, REASONS AND THEN NOT, AND THEN WE GET, UH, DISTRACTED AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENS. 
          AND I'M JUST, WHAT I JUST FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE GAVE OURSELF A DEADLINE AND SAID, YOU KNOW, BY JANUARY 15TH WE'RE GONNA WORK IT OUT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A VOTE AND THEN IT'S UPWARD DOWN BECAUSE I KEEP ASKING THE C A C TO STUDY IT AND THEY'RE SPENDING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS AND IT'S REALLY NOT FAIR TO A CITIZENS BOARD TO ASK THEM TO DO WORK AND THEN NOT TO HAVE A VOTE ON IT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IF IT GOES DOWN, IT GOES DOWN. 
          BUT AT LEAST, UM, AT LEAST EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THEN WE PUT IT TO REST AND, YOU KNOW, WE MOVE ON. 
          UH, I JUST DON'T, I JUST FEEL IT'S NOT FAIR TO LEAVE IT IN THE LIMBO. 
          PAUL, IF I MAY, IF PAUL, I'D LIKE TO ADD ALSO AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN, I THINK THAT WHAT THERE HAS PUT FORWARD IS REASONABLE. 
          AND, UM, I I HOPE THAT THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER THIS AS A REASONABLE PROPOSAL. 
          IT IS NOT ABSOLUTE, IT DOES NOT SUGGEST THE ABSOLUTE ELIMINATION OF LEAF BLOWERS. 
          IT DOES ENCOURAGE THE USE OF LEAF BLOWERS UNDER CERTAIN GUIDELINES. 
          AND I DO NOT THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF COMPLAINTS COME ONLY DURING LEAF COLLECTING TIME. 
          UM, PEOPLE USE LE HIGH POWERED LEAF BLOWERS DURING THE ENTIRE SUMMER TO, UM, HELP SCULPT LAWNS. 
          UH, AND, UM, AS THERESA AND HER COMMITTEE HAVE OUTLINED, THE HIGH USAGE TIMES ARE THE TIMES WHEN THE LEAF BLOWERS WOULD BE, UM, UM, A APPROVED. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THERE THERE'S ALSO, UM, REASONABLENESS ESTABLISHED AND APPLIED BY THE TOWN WITH REGARDS TO NOISE. 
          WE HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE. 
          THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN DO NOT LIKE, UM, NOISY TRUCK DELIVERIES AFTER A CERTAIN TIME AT NIGHT. 
          HOWEVER, IF THERE IS A SNOWSTORM, EXCEPTIONS ARE MADE FOR THE TOWN TRUCKS. 
          AND IT IS EXPECTED BECAUSE IT IS REASONABLE FOR THE TRUCKS TO BE OUT THERE CLEARING UP THE STREETS. 
          SO THERE'S NO ABSOLUTE EXCLUSION OR INCLUSION HERE WITH REGARDS TO RESIDENTS AND TOWN. 
          OKAY, THANK 
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YOU. 
          CAN MAY I I JUST WANTED TO MAKE TWO POINTS BECAUSE EVERY TIME PAUL GETS AN EMAIL COMPLAINT, HE CCSS MIKE SIEGEL AND MYSELF. 
          AND I WAS AMAZED AT HOW MANY WERE COMING IN THROUGH THE SUMMER. 
          AND SO OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A LOT OF BLOWER USAGE GOING ON IN THE SUMMER. 
          AND AS I SAID, FOR A CULTURALLY, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA SCULPT YOUR TO BE A SUPER, SUPER PERFECT VISION, IT ISN'T NECESSARY. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PLAYOFF OF A COMPROMISE IN A COMMUNITY AND IN TERMS OF, OF THE PARKING LOTS AND MANY OF THESE OTHER REASONS. 
          IF WE'RE GONNA START TALKING ABOUT THE GOLF COURSES AND THE CEMETERIES, THEN EVERY PLACE THAT HAS A PARKING LOT'S GONNA COME IN. 
          WELL, WHAT DOES THE HOMEOWNER DO? WHO HAS THE BIG DRIVEWAY? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME HOMEOWNERS IN THE TOWN WHO HAVE VERY BIG HOUSES AND ALL THE KIDS HAVE THEIR OWN CAR. 
          SO FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES IN FRONT OF THEIR MCMANSION, IT'S A PARKING LOT. 
          YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO SAY, OH, WELL IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T GET A BROOM TO PICK UP WHAT WAS EVER THAT WAS THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, THE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO FORGET IS THAT WE HAVE ONLY HAD LEAF BLOWERS FOR 40 YEARS AT THE OUTSIDE. 
          NOW 40 YEARS IS A LONG TIME. 
          IT'S ALMOST TWO GENERATIONS. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO LEAF BLOWERS TO DO MAINTENANCE. 
          NOW, WHEN WE COME TO PICKING UP LEAVES, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO GO BACK TO GOING TO RAKING LEAVES. 
          BUT IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT CLEANING UP A WALK, I SUSPECT, AND I, AND I WOULD BE WILLING AT MY AGE TO GO AGAINST SOMEBODY WITH A BIG BROOM. 
          YOU COULD DO IT FASTER WITH A BROOM. 
          'CAUSE I'VE WATCHED PEOPLE DO IT WITH A BLOWER AND IT TAKES FOREVER. 
          AND WITH A BROOM, YOU JUST GO RIGHT DOWN THE WALK AND AT THE END YOU HAVE A NICE LITTLE PILE OR WHATEVER WAS THERE. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, LET'S TRY AND SEE IF WE CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER AND FIND THE POINT WHERE, RATHER THAN THINKING OF REASONS WHY WE CAN'T PUT, UH, LEGISLATION IN PLACE, HOW WE CAN PUT THE LEGISLATION IN PLACE. 
          BUT I THINK THE COMMUNITY REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AND IS ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF I MIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN C A C, UM, GROUND FIGURE IS 6, 8, 10 YEARS OR A BLOW ALONG. 
          WE'VE BEEN ASKED BY PAUL AT LEAST THREE TIMES TO COME UP WITH A BLOW ALONG. 
          THERE IS ONE PROBLEM WE CANNOT SOLVE. 
          WE CANNOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. 
          UH, IF YOU INCLUDE THE TOWNS ON, ON PRINCIPLE, YOU INCLUDE THE TOWN IN THE COVER TO THE LAW. 
          WE CANNOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT THERE'S AN EXTRA COST. 
          THERE'S NO WAY THE C A C CAN SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. 
          THERE'S ULTIMATELY A POLICY JUDGMENT THAT THE TOWN BOARD HAS TO MAKE. 
          UM, IF YOU'RE GOING THE C A C HAD NO OBJECTION TO INCLUDING THE TOWN FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL POINT OF VIEW. 
          BUT WE LISTENED TO BOTH OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF, UH, PARTS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKERS. 
          THEY MADE TO US CREDIBLE CASES ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          PUBLIC SAFETY IS ALWAYS GENERALLY AN EXCEPTION FROM THINGS EVEN FROM THE US CONSTITUTION. 
          UH, FIRST AMENDMENT PUBLIC SAFETY IS AN EXCEPTION. 
          THERE IS A RATIONALE TO EXPLAIN TO RESIDENTS AS TO WHY THE TOWN FOR LIMITED ACTIVITIES OF PUBLIC SAFETY IS ACCEPTED. 
          UM, AND, UH, BUT THE, THE TOWN ULTIMATELY JUST HAS TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          DO YOU WANT THE TOWN, THE TOWN IN OR OUT? 'CAUSE WE CANNOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF HAVING THE TOWN INCLUDED IN THE COVERAGE OF THE VILLE WITHOUT TAXES BEING RAISED. 
          AND, UM, WE WOULD ENJOY THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE LIKE THE COMMISSIONERS AND WORK OUT THE DETAILS OF THIS. 
          BUT THIS UNDERLYING ISSUE EXISTS, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE THAT ISSUE ON THIS COMMITTEE. 
          SO UNLESS THE BOARD IS WILLING TO DO WHAT PAUL SAYS AND MAKE, AND HAVE A VOTE AND MAKE A DECISION, WHICHEVER WAY YOU GO, YOU GO, THIS IS UP TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, NOT THE C A C, BUT TELLING YOU IN ADVANCE, WE CANNOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. 
          IT'S A POLICY ISSUE OF WHETHER YOU WANT THE TOWN IN AND INCLUDED AND YOU WANNA RAISE TAXES OR YOU WANT TO SAY ON LIMITED ACTIVITIES INVOLVING PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          THE TOWN WILL BE, WILL HAVE AN EXEMPTION. 
          AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS YEAR IS A REALLY TOUGH YEAR TO RAISE, UH, THE TAXES. 
          THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE OUT OF WORK AND, UM, SOME OF 
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THE PEOPLE OUT OF WORK ARE WORKING PART-TIME BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN FURLOUGHED OR, OR WHATEVER. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WORKING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE AT HOME. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, GOING CRAZY. 
          I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF MAYBE, UH, JUST TO TEST THIS OUT JUST SO WE COULD LIKE MOVE FORWARD. 
          WHAT IF WE ADOPTED THIS SUB LAW, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE IT EFFECTIVE FOR 2000 AND, UM, AND 21. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD USE THE, UM, THE EXCUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A PANDEMIC THAT YOU KNOW ISN'T GONNA BE OVER TILL, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME IN 2021, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'LL STILL BE IMPACTS OF IT. 
          AND THEN, UH, SO WE HAVE THE LAW, WE ADOPT THE LAW EFFECTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, JANUARY 1ST, AND IT EXPIRES DECEMBER 31ST, AND THEN WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS. 
          AND, UM, AND THEN AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, WE COULD SEE IF WE WANNA, UM, YOU KNOW, EXTEND THE LAW TO APPLY TO, UH, THE TOWN AND, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY ELSE OR, OR CONTINUE TO TWEAK IT. 
          BECAUSE I, BECAUSE I, I FEEL, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER, I, I REALLY FEEL THAT, UM, UH, ONCE WE TEST IT OUT AND UH, WE, WE SEE IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE TRY ENFORCING IT, WE PUBLICIZE IT, I THINK WE'RE GONNA LEARN AN AWFUL LOT. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER. 
          YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS IF WE DON'T VOTE ON IT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE EVERY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS INVITE THE C A C, THEY MAKE A PRESENTATION, PEOPLE HAVE SOME CONCERNS, AND THEN, UM, AND THEN WE GET DISTRACTED WORK ON ANOTHER ISSUE, AND THEN SIX MONTHS LATER, OR A YEAR LATER OR TWO YEARS LATER, WE ASK THE C A C TO DO THE SAME STUDY. 
          RIGHT? UM, UH, SO I JUST FAILED. 
          WHY DON'T WE JUST VOTE ON IT AND PUT IT, MAKE IT A ONE YEAR LAW AND BASE IT ON THE PANDEMIC AND, AND JUST TEST IT OUT? AND I THINK PEOPLE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU'RE, THERE'S SO MANY EXCEPTIONS TO THOSE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, PEOPLE COULD USE LEAF BLOWERS MAR YOU KNOW, MARCH 1ST TO MAY 15TH AND, UM, IN THE FALL FROM OCTOBER 15TH TO DECEMBER 15TH. 
          SO I THINK AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE COMPLAINING THAT, UM, THAT THE LAW HAS TOO MANY EXCEPTIONS. 
          SO WE MAY WANT TO EVEN TIGHTEN IT UP, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST GET OUR FOOT IN THE DOOR. 
          THE LAST TIME WE CHATTED WITH THE C A C, WE HAD CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION OF THE ELECTRIC VERSUS GAS, AND THEN WE GOT INTO THE DECIBEL LEVELS OF THE NOISE. 
          AND I, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING BEING RECOMMENDED REGARDING THE DECIBEL LEVEL. 
          I THINK THERE WAS AGREEMENT THAT 55, UH, DECIBELS WAS BASICALLY BACKGROUND NOISE IN, IN MANY AREAS OF THE TOWN. 
          UH, WAS THERE ANY WORK CONTINUED TO BE DONE ON THAT? IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION AS WHAT THE DECIBEL LEVEL SHOULD BE? OR IS IT SHOULD I THINK THE EXISTING, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DECIBEL LEVEL, I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT YOUR TOWN NOISE ORDINANCE, BECAUSE IT REALLY AFFECTS ALMOST, UH, ACTIVITY OF EQUIPMENT. 
          AND THAT WOULD BECOME SOMETHING WHERE YOU'D LOOK AT THE TOWN NOISE ORDINANCE. 
          AND THEN I THINK THE REASON WE DIDN'T QUITE TRUTHFULLY, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT OUT OF THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES AWAY ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE WERE HAVING, WHICH WAS ENFORCEMENT. 
          WE NOW HAVE A LAW THAT THE ENFORCEMENT IS CALENDAR BASED. 
          IF SOMEONE SEES SOMEONE PHYSICALLY USING A, A BLOWER DURING THOSE PERIODS, IT'S WRONG. 
          IT, IT JUST IS, IT'S NOT ALLOWED. 
          SO IT MAKES IT AN EASIER LAW TO ENFORCE IN TERMS OF THE BLOWER. 
          THERE ARE ISSUES IN THE TOWN IN TERMS OF ALL LANDSCAPING EQUIPMENT AND OTHER EQUIPMENT IN TERMS OF THE DECIBEL LEVELS. 
          BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE REALLY A SEPARATE REVIEW OF THE TOWN NOISE ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF WHAT LEVELS WE SHOULD HAVE IN THE TOWN NOISE ORDINANCE. 
          AND ONCE, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE LEVELS, HOW DO WE MANAGE ENFORCING THEM? WELL, THAT THERE WERE TWO PARTS TO THAT. 
          THERE WAS THE DECIBEL LEVEL AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE PRESUMPTIVE IF YOU HAD CERTAIN EQUIPMENT YOU WERE IN VIOLATION VERSUS THERE BEING A SOUND METER. 
          BUT THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION AND TIME SPENT TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE DECIBEL LEVEL SHOULD BE AND WHETHER OR NOT 65 SHOULD BE THE DECIBEL LEVEL, OR 75, OR I THINK THE TOWN'S EQUIPMENT WAS 77 RATED FOR 77 DECIBELS, AND THEY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUY IT. 
          I THINK IT'S AN IF SIGNIFICANT THING TO CONSIDER, BUT I DON'T THINK IT REALLY IS RELEVANT TO THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION. 
          THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION 
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IS STRICTLY DEALING WITH EQUIPMENT THAT WE KNOW HAS DECIBEL LEVEL PROBLEMS. IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE DECIBEL LEVEL PROBLEM OF, OF NOISE IN THE COMMUNITY AND OF, OF THE LANDSCAPING EQUIPMENT. 
          BUT I THINK TO PULL THAT INTO THIS IS A DISSERVICE TO THE ISSUE AT HAND. 
          THE ISSUE AT HAND IS THE USE OF LEAF BLOWERS AND I, I WOULD SAY SEPARATED OUT. 
          I, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD ISSUE TO LOOK AT, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT HERE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE NOISE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS NOT STRICTLY AN ISSUE OF BLOWERS. 
          ARE YOU SAYING THE C A C DID NOT ROLL INTO THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT LEAF BLOWERS? THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND THE DECIBEL LEVEL? I, I'LL BE VERY HONEST, AT FRANCIS, AT THAT TIME, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE NOISE ORDINANCE AS BEING A VEHICLE TO SOLVE THE BLOWER PROBLEM. 
          LET'S BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING. 
          WE WERE NOT DISCUSSING A BLOWER LAW. 
          WE WERE DISCUSSING HOW COULD WE GET THE NOISE ORDINANCE TO MANAGE THE BLOWER PROBLEM AND THE REALITY. 
          AND FRANCIS, BECAUSE WORK, AND FRANCIS, BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES RAISED, THE ASSUMPTIONS MADE BY THE TOWN BOARD ABOUT THE VOLUME IN WHICH IT WERE USED, WHICH DID NOT STRIKE EVERYONE AS APTT ASSUMPTIONS. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THE ENFORCEABILITY ISSUES, THE C A C ABANDONED THAT APPROACH AND WENT BACK TO THE TRADITIONAL SCOPE APPROACH, WHICH SCARSDALE IS USED FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY OF A CALENDAR. 
          IT IS HISTORICALLY TRUE. 
          IT'S HISTORICALLY TRUE THAT WE DID PROPOSE SOMETHING, DEAL TRYING TO DEAL WITH A BYPRODUCT OF AMENDING. 
          THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND A BYPRODUCT OF THAT WOULD HAVE DEALT WITH BLOWERS. 
          BUT BECAUSE OF ASSUMPTIONS THE TOWN BOARD WANTED TO MAKE ABOUT THE VOLUME AT WHICH BLOWERS WOULD BE USED AND BECAUSE OF ENFORCEABILITY DIFFICULTIES, WHICH WE RECOGNIZE GOING IN. 
          BUT IT CERTAINLY DOES HAVE ENFORCEABILITY, UH, DIFFICULTIES THAT THE CHIEF, UM, AND THE TOWN BOARD AND CCC DISCUSSED AT LENGTH. 
          AND, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, WE WENT BACK TO THE TRADITIONAL WAY THAT, UH, SCARSDALE HAS BEEN USED IN THIS SINCE THE MID NINETIES, WHICH IS A QUARTER OF A CENTURY AGO. 
          IT, IT ITSELF HAS A ENFORCEABILITY ISSUES, BUT NOT OF THE SAME, UM, UH, QUALITY OR, UH, UH, DIFFICULTY AS, UM, UH, AND WE, UH, BY THE WAY, THE, THE, THE CHAIR OF THIS , C A C IS ON, UH, THIS ZOOM AND WE'VE STARTED TO DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE ENFORCEABILITY ISSUES, BUT, UH, THEY'RE NOT OF THE QUALITY OF, UM, ENFORCEABILITY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT BACK INTO, UH, AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT THE HELP AND THE GUIDANCE HE'S GIVEN US FROM THE AL EXPERIENCE. 
          BUT, UM, THAT'S WHY WE WENT, UH, BACK TO THE TRADITIONAL APPROACH, FRANCIS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, AND THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION, UH, TERRY, IT WASN'T DISINGENUOUS OF ME TO RAISE WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AND THEN SAY, WHY ARE YOU RAISING THAT THIS IS NOT BEFORE US. 
          BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH. 
          WE, WE LEARNED, WE LEARNED FRANCIS FROM THE DISCUSSIONS. 
          WE LEARNED FROM THE DISCUSSIONS, UH, ON THE NOISE. 
          WE LEARNED FROM THE VERY HELPFUL COMMENTS MADE BY THE COMMISSIONERS OF PARKS AND THE COMMISSIONERS OF DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS LAST TIME. 
          WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T JUST COME HERE TO GIVE A SONG AND DANCE. 
          WE ALSO COME AND LISTEN, WE'VE LISTENED TO THESE DISCUSSIONS AND WE'VE TRIED IMPERFECTLY, BUT WE'VE TRIED THE BEST WE CAN TO GIVE AWAY TO . 
          RIGHT? BUT, BUT, BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN, I GUESS, OR DIDN'T CARE THAT I BASICALLY THAT WELL, WE MAY HAVE LISTENED. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          LET ME FINISH . 
          UM, WHEN I SAID BEFORE AND I WAS SERIOUS, IS THAT I HAVE A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH EXEMPTING THE TOWN FROM REGULATIONS THAT OTHER ENTITIES ARE GOING TO SAY ARE TOO ONEROUS AND GOING TO COST TOO MUCH MONEY. 
          AND THEN WE SAY, IT'S TOO ONEROUS, IT'S GONNA COST TOO MUCH MONEY. 
          SO WE EXEMPT THE TOWN, AND THEN YOU COME BACK WITH A COMPROMISE THAT EXEMPTS THE TOWN BECAUSE YOU SPOKE TO TOWN STAFF AND THEN SAY, WELL, BULLOCK BELPER DOWN. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THE TOWN BOARD. 
          NO, IT IS, IT IS ABSOLUTELY FAIR, FRANCIS TO THE TOWN BOARD BECAUSE IT IS NOT A SOLVABLE ISSUE. 
          WE CANNOT SAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES RAISED BY THE, THE COMMISSIONERS WITHOUT A COST TO IT. 
          AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN MAKE THAT DECISION FOR THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          THE C A C DOESN'T 
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HAVE ANY IDEA, DOESN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM IF YOU HAD NO EXEMPTIONS. 
          BUT WE TRIED TO BALANCE THINGS AND WE LISTENED TO THE COMMISSIONERS. 
          NOW WE CAN'T, NOW, IF YOU, IT WILL TAKE YOU 30 SECONDS, IT WILL TAKE ME 30 SECONDS. 
          IF THE TOWN BOARD SAYS THREE PEOPLE IN THE TOWN BOARD SAY, WE WANT THE TOWN INCLUDED, YOU WILL HAVE A NEW DRAFT OF THIS LAW IN 30 SECONDS. 
          JUST TELL US WHAT YOU WANT. 
          BUT WE DO NOT PUT ON THE C A C 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S UNFAIR, FRANCIS, FOR YOU TO PUT ON THE C A C HOW WE CAN ADDRESS WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS SAY IS A MAN, A STAFFING PROBLEM WITHOUT RAISING TAXES. 
          THAT'S NOT FAIR TO PUT THAT ON THE C A C. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I I JUST, I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING AT THIS POINT. 
          SURE. 
          I'VE BEEN LISTENING, I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH, AND, UH, I, I THINK THAT MIKE HAS A, A GOOD POINT HERE THAT HE'S SAYING THAT, UH, AT SOME POINT WE, WE HAVE ISSUES FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND, AND THE, AND THE, THE SUGGESTION IS NOT TO TOTALLY EXEMPT THE TOWN, IT'S JUST TO GIVE IT, GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE IF IN FACT, WE, WE HAVE THIS LIMITED, LIMITED LAW AND LIMITED, UH, TIMES THAT THE, THAT THE TOWN CAN ACTUALLY USE THE, THE BLOWERS. 
          AND IF WE DO IT ON A TRIAL BASIS FOR ONE YEAR. 
          AND, AND, UH, PAUL'S SUGGESTION, ESPECIALLY SINCE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE AT HOME NOW AND ARE ON ZOOM AND TRYING TO CONDUCT WORK, THAT IT'S, IT IS A BIGGER ISSUE THAT, THAT, UM, I THINK THAT IT IS A, A GOOD POSS A GOOD IDEA TO TRY THIS OUT. 
          AND THAT'S JUST HOW I, AFTER LISTENING TO IT, THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY I FEEL. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND FRANCIS, HOW, WHY YOU FEEL THE WAY YOU FEEL, AND, AND YOU'RE NOT WRONG FOR, FOR THINKING THAT AT ALL. 
          IT'S JUST THAT I, I BELIEVE THERE'S A DILEMMA AND AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S MY, WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. 
          I, I BELIEVE THIS PROPOSAL IS INVITING LEGISLATION, UH, A LITIGATION AGAINST US. 
          IT, IT, I HAVE NO DOUBT IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          IT'S GONNA HAPPEN QUICKLY BECAUSE IN, IN THE PROPOSAL, IT STATES THAT FORGET ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY, EXEMPT, FATAL, PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          THERE'S A CLAUSE HERE THAT SAYS, OR FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES DUE TO BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT WE TAKE THAT OUT. 
          IT SAYS, IT SAYS OTHER, FRANCIS, FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES, THE TOWN DUE TO BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS. 
          YOU, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITHOUT BEING INTERRUPTED, RIGHT? AND THEN WHEN I STOP, I WILL LISTEN TO YOU, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING ALL NIGHT, RIGHT? SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT THE GOLF COURSES ARE GOING TO LITIGATE. 
          I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, IT'S GOING TO BE TOO EXPENSIVE. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE TOO ONEROUS ON THEM, PARTICULARLY IN A PANDEMIC, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH MEN, UH, MEMBERS. 
          AND THEY'RE GOING TO POINT TO THIS LAW AND SAY, LOOK, EVEN THE TOWN RECOGNIZES THAT THERE'S AN ECONOMIC HARDSHIP HERE, BUT THEY EXEMPTED THEMSELVES. 
          AND SO, BUT IT MAY BE THAT YOU HAVE THREE VOTES TO PUSH THROUGH THIS LEGISLATION. 
          AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THAT'S FINE. 
          I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR. 
          I I DON'T LIKE THESE BLOWERS. 
          I THINK IT'S ABSURD THAT PEOPLE BLOW THE GRASS CLIPPINGS OFF OF THE GRASS IN THE SUMMERTIME. 
          THAT'S ABSURD. 
          THIS DOES NOT SAY YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 
          SEE, I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO FIX THIS BY WHATEVER IT IS THAT THE TOWN IS DOING TO PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AND SOME OF THAT IS GOING TO BE BLOWING WALKWAYS. 
          AND WE HAVE A LOT OF TOWNHOUSES IN THIS TOWN WITH LOTS OF INTERNAL WALKWAYS. 
          AND IF IT WAS TOWN PROPERTY, WE, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BLOW THEM. 
          THE TOWN WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BLOW THE LEAVES OR THE CLIPPINGS OR WHATEVER OFF OF THE WALKWAY. 
          SO NOBODY GETS, UH, SLIPS ON THAT IN THE RAIN AND FALLS. 
          BUT IF IT'S ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY SUCH AS A TOWNHOUSE, INTERNAL, INTERNAL WALKWAYS, THEY CAN'T DO THAT. 
          I THINK WE COULD WORK RIGHT THIS SO THAT IT APPLY, YOU KNOW, BLOWING WHATEVER SLIPPERY, WHATEVER VEGETATION OFF OF WALKWAYS, I DON'T THINK IS GOING TO BE DEVASTATING TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE TO, UH, GENERATING NOISE. 
          WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO STOP PEOPLE FROM BLOWING GRASS CLIPPINGS OFF OF GRASS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THINK, UH, WHERE YOU'RE HEARING DURING THE SUMMERTIME MOSTLY. 
          I, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THESE BLOWERS, UM, 
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TO BE USED MUCH LESS. 
          BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT APPLY TO, TO EVERYONE. 
          AND I'M JUST TIRED OF US PASSING LEGISLATION, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT INVITES LITIGATION. 
          AND I, I, I THINK THIS IS JUST RIPE FOR IT. 
          SO, WELL, THE ONLY, I'LL REMAIN QUIET. 
          THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THE LITIGATION IS I, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT. 
          SO I PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, IF, UM, IF THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO EVEN EXEMPT, YOU KNOW, THE GOLF COURSES, I WOULDN'T CARE BECAUSE MY FAILING IS, I'M JUST SPEAKING AGAIN FOR MYSELF BECAUSE I FEEL THAT IF WE TAKE BABY STEPS, IT WILL LEAD TO A STRONG, UH, IT WILL EVENTUALLY LEAD TO A STRONG BEEF BLOWER LAW. 
          I THINK THE PRO, THE PROBLEM THAT I'VE SEEN IS THAT WE'VE BEEN AFRAID TO TAKE EVEN BABY STEPS BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS, UH, REASONS WHY WE CAN'T DO IT. 
          UM, AND SOME OF THE REASONS ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE MAJOR OBSTACLES LIKE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE CAN IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, UM, UM, RAISE TAXES, UM, BECAUSE THE PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO DO THEIR, UH, THEIR WORK. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT TOLD IT IN THE PAST. 
          SO IF WE EXEMPT, UH, THE PARKS AND, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AT LEAST WE'RE GETTING SOMETHING THROUGH. 
          IF GRANT US, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT GOLF COURSES, EXEMPT THAT PRIDE ON A LIMITED BASIS, IT'S ONLY FOR ONLY FOR ONE YEAR. 
          AFTER ONE YEAR, WE TAKE A LOOK AND WE EXAMINE IT. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SUNSET LAWS IN THE PAST AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT WORKS AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T. 
          BUT AT LEAST WE'RE TRYING. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LOOK, LOOK AT THIS. 
          IF WE HAVE A, A ONE YEAR SUNSET, LOOK AT IT AS A PROCESS THAT COULD HELP US COME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD LAW. 
          THIS IS A STEP TOWARDS THAT. 
          MAY I MAKE ANOTHER SUGGESTION? SINCE FRANCIS HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT BLOWING GRASS OFF OF GRASS, VERY OFTEN WHAT'S HAPPENING ANYWHERE, EVERYWHERE IN TERMS OF, BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN CONDO COMPLEXES, AS YOU SAID AND WHATNOT. 
          IT'S JUST BLOWING TO BLOW RATHER THAN JUST SWEEP OR WHATEVER. 
          AND I THINK DIANA POINTED TO THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TAKE OUT THE PART ABOUT THE TOWN'S ECONOMIC NEEDS. 
          PERHAPS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS TO REALLY MEET WITH TOWN STAFF AND GET VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE USING THE BLOWER FOR. 
          BECAUSE IF WE'RE SAYING, AND THIS GOES TO SOMETHING YOU'RE SAYING, FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY'RE SAYING, OH, WELL WE NEVER SWEEP A WALK, WE ONLY USE A BLOWER ON A WALK, WELL, THEN THE ISSUE REALLY HAS TO BE, IS THE BLOWER EVEN THE FASTEST WAY TO DO THE WORK? OR IS IT JUST A HABIT WE'VE GOTTEN INTO IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN THIS THESE TIMES THAT RATHER THAN DO THINGS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY, WHICH PROBABLY IS FASTER, THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT. 
          AND I AGREE THAT IT'S VERY PROBLEMATIC IF WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE THAT WE'RE SAYING A HOMEOWNER OR A GOLF COURSE CAN'T. 
          AND WE'RE LETTING THE TOWN. 
          NOW, I KNOW WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO PUBLIC WORKS, THE ISSUE WAS ACTUALLY WHEN THERE WAS DEBRIS IN THE STREET, THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT THING. 
          AND WE ACTUALLY EXTENDED THAT, AS I SAID, WITH THE TREE OR TWO WHEN THEY CAME IN FOR A TREE ORDINANCE, TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THINGS, DEBRIS IN THE STREETS. 
          YOU WANT THE ROAD RACE CLEARED. 
          IF THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS JUST WE WANT USE THE BLOWER IN THE SUMMER TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS BASICALLY CLEANUP, THEN WE HAVE TO REALLY START TO TALK ABOUT WHAT LEVEL OF CLEANUP DO WE WANT IN THE COMMUNITY AT OUR FACILITIES, AND IS THIS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN ACHIEVE SOME LEVEL OF ACCEPTABLE MAINTENANCE? SO MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE WITH THE TOWN BOARD, UH, DIALOGUE WITH THE, WITH THE DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHAT THE REAL ISSUE IS. 
          I THINK GOING BACK TO WHAT PAUL SAID IS IF WE DON'T TRY SOMETHING, WE'LL NEVER FIND OUT. 
          SO WHAT'S THE RESOLUTION? I MEAN, IS THERE, IF THE BOARD WOULD WANT SOME EXTRA TIME, I MEAN, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO LIKE SET A VOTE SOMETIME, SAY AT THE END OF JANUARY AT THE, THE MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY? EVERYBODY COULD SEE IF THEY COULD WORK IT OUT AND WE COULD TRY IMPROVING IT, AND THEN WE CAST A VOTE, AND THEN IF IT GOES DOWN, IT'S DEAD AND WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT UP AGAIN. 
          AND IF IT, UM, IS APPROVED, THEN UM, RESIDENTS WILL BENEFIT 
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FROM SOME, SOME LAW. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING, LET'S JUST SAY WE'RE HAVING A VOTE GOES OR DOWN, AND IF WE NEED TIME, UM, BE BEFORE THIS PROPOSAL WOULD TAKE EFFECT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE, THEN NOT LEAST THE CAC C WON'T FEEL THEY'RE WASTING THEIR TIME. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WILL BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I AGREE WITH THE BOARD ONE WAY. 
          THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT THE LAW. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO, UM, THINK ANY LAW IS BAD. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LAW IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE, I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO DIFFER. 
          I UNDERSTANDABLY, I JUST, AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THE C A C HAS PUT INTO THIS. 
          I JUST THINK THAT IT'S JUST IMPORTANT IF US AS A TOWN, IF WE'RE GONNA SIT, WE'RE GONNA MANDATE SOMETHING FOR RESIDENTS TO DO THAT. 
          WE SHOULD BE DOING THE SAME. 
          SO THIS, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW, I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT. 
          WHAT THE C A C NEEDS TO KNOW, ASSUMING YOU HAVE TO PLEASE TELL US, HAVE A DRAW, VOTE, NOT A BINDING VOTE, BUT WE NEED A DRAW VOTE. 
          YOU WANT THE TOWN INTERACT. 
          WE CANNOT SOLVE THE C A C HAS TO HEAR FROM THE FIVE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT GUIDANCE. 
          WE CAN CRAFT A LAW, BUT WE NEED THAT GUIDANCE. 
          COULD, THIS IS RICH FA IF I COULD WITH D P W, MAYBE, UH, JERRY BYRNE MYSELF COULD MEET WITH THE C A C ONE MORE TIME TO, UH, GO OVER THE SUGGESTIONS THAT JUDY COUNCIL MACHINE AND COUNCILWOMAN JUDY, UH, JACKSON HAVE MADE. 
          I GOT IT TO TRY TO EVEN IT OUT SO THAT THE TOWN ISN'T, UM, NOT BEING HELD TO THE STANDARDS. 
          I'M SURE THAT IF JERRY, MYSELF AND SOME OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS SIT DOWN WITH THEM, BECAUSE AS FRANCIS IAN SAID, I MEAN, BLOWING THE GRASS OFF THE GRASS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN IF WE HAVE A STORM AND WE HAD A TREE DOWN IN THE ROAD AND WE'RE CLEANING THE ROAD UP AFTER THE STORM. 
          YOU KNOW, VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          SUGGESTIONS. 
          GINA, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH DEPARTMENT OF WORK USING BELOWS ON THE STREET? I'M COMFORTABLE WITH RICHARD'S SUGGESTION. 
          YES. 
          I'M NOT VOTING TONIGHT THOUGH, BUT I'M COMFORTABLE. 
          I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO MEET AGAIN AND COME TO SOME CO COMPROMISE AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO US AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE GOT, WE GOT THE, UH, THE GIST ON OUR END OF, OF WHAT ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE LOOKING FOR. 
          WHY DON'T WE SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT OUR OPERATIONS IN MORE DETAIL. 
          WE'D LOVE TO DO THAT. 
          SO WHEN DO YOU THINK, UH, WE COULD PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA? WELL, WHY DON'T YOU LET US MEET FIRST AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU. 
          THAT'S, WELL, TO MEET THE, TO MEET THE TIME SCHEDULE THAT PAUL IS TALKING ABOUT. 
          WHAT'S TODAY, TODAY'S THE 18TH. 
          WHEN, WHEN'S YOUR NEXT MEETING? THE NINTH. 
          I ASSUME YOU DON'T HAVE TOO MANY MEETINGS IN DECEMBER, RIGHT? WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD, UH, TRY, UH, PUTTING IT ON SAY, UH, A WORK SESSION AGENDA AT THE END OF JANUARY, WHICH WOULD GIVE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, TIME. 
          UH, IT GIVES PUBLIC WORKS A RECREATION, IT GIVES THE C A C EVERY TIME TO, UH, THINK ABOUT IT, TO COME UP WITH, UM, UH, A COMPROMISE AND, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING BETTER. 
          AND MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON AND COUNCILMAN, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE AND MAY FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT EVERYBODY WORKS OUT. 
          I, I THINK WE'VE HEARD ALL THE CONCERNS, AT LEAST I, I'M, I'M LISTENING ON A DP W CENTRIC POINT OF VIEW, BUT I, I, I THINK THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD, UH, MENTIONED THAT MAYBE ON OUR END WE COULD TWEAK AND I'LL LET JERRY AND I SIT DOWN WITH SOME STAFF AND THE CAC C AND TRY TO COME TO, UH, TO SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS BEFORE THEY COME BACK. 
          YEAH, I SAY I THINK IT MIGHT BE REALLY HELPFUL TO BE TALKING WITH YOUR STAFF TO GET INTO THE, SPECIFICALLY OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          'CAUSE THIS GOES TO SOMETHING DIANA SAID, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IF WE'RE GOING TO EXEMPT SOMETHING, A REALLY SPECIFIC SITUATION AND AN ALTERNATIVE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, THEN YOU'D HAVE TO GIVE THIS SAME THING TO EVERYBODY. 
          AND IN THE CASE OF THE ONE THAT CAME FROM PUBLIC WORKS, WE ACTUALLY DID EXTEND IT TO THE, TO SOMEONE TAKING DOWN A TREE BECAUSE YOU MADE A REALLY GOOD CASE FOR, THAT WAS A SITUATION IN TERMS OF ROAD MAINTENANCE WHERE YOU HAVE TO GET THE DEBRIS OUT OF THE WAY AS QUICKLY AS 
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POSSIBLE FOR SAFETY. 
          SO I THINK WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS TO REALLY COME TO US WITH SPECIFIC SITUATIONS WHERE YOU FELT THAT THERE WAS NO ALTERNATIVE AND THEREFORE THAT COULD BE PUT INTO ALL LAW. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BOTH DIANA AND GINA ARE LOOKING FOR IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO EXEMPTIONS, LET'S DO EXEMPTIONS FOR SOMETHING THAT ISN'T JUST, WELL, WE HAVE ONE LAW FOR THE TOWN AND ANOTHER FOR THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND CAN TESTING THEN, CAN I A SUGGESTION THEN MAYBE WE DO A ZOOM MEETING NEXT MONDAY OR TUESDAY. 
          UH, THE THEREA AND MIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, I HAVE TO GO GET THE DAY PLANNER. 
          CAN I GO? JUST WANNA GET THE DAY PLANNER. 
          HOW ABOUT TOMORROW? RATHER THAN HOLD IT UP. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S LONG AGENDA. 
          WE, WE CAN EMAIL EACH OTHER AND WE CAN PICK A TIME AND DO THAT. 
          THAT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY GOOD IDEA, JERRY. 
          AND AS FAR AS GETTING DIRECTION FROM THE TOWN BOARD, UM, I, I SORT OF LIKE THE IDEA MAYBE OF HAVING A ONE YEAR, YOU KNOW, COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT IS REALLY FOR ONE YEAR THAT CAN BE REEVALUATED. 
          'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT GOT A LITTLE SUPPORT MAYBE FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD IF, IF, IF WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT THEY ALL LIKE THE LANGUAGE, BUT DO IT FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR AND, UH, RATHER THAN JUST SAY IT'S PERMANENT. 
          YEAH, I I, I DEFINITELY LIKE THE IDEA OF A, A ONE YEAR LAW. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT WOULD, WOULD YOU BRING BACK? WHAT I WOULD, WHAT LOOKING FOR IS NOT BY DEPARTMENT, BUT WHAT IS THE ACTIVITY THAT SHOULD HAVE AN EXEMPTION AND THEN YOU EXEMPT THE ACTIVITY AS OPPOSED TO WHO DOES IT? BECAUSE THE FACT THAT IT HAPPENS TO BE DONE BY THE TOWN, IT COULD BE, AND THIS IS WHEN YOU START TO, WHICH IS WHAT I TRIED TO, IS WHAT I TRY TO PUT INTO MY, WHAT I DID PUT IN THE EMAIL THAT I SENT THIS AFTERNOON IS IF YOU IDENTIFY THE ACTIVITY, YOU ADDRESS THE ACTIVITY AND NOT SAY THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THE TOWN, THEN I DON'T THINK WE'RE BEING HYPOCRITES IN PASSING SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE ONEROUS ON OTHERS. 
          AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT ON OURSELVES BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT. 
          AND FRANCIS, YOU HAVE NO, YOU HAVE NO CONCERNS WITH THE ENFORCEABILITY OF THAT. 
          THE POLICE OFFICER'S GOING TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION ON SITE, WHETHER IT IS WITHIN AN EXEMPTED ACTIVITY OR NOT. 
          YOU HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH, WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU THAT LAW. 
          AND YOU'RE GONNA SAY, HOW, HOW IS IT ENFORCEABLE? I THINK, I THINK THAT'S MORE ADDRESSABLE THAN WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO HERE WITH, OKAY, NOW LET'S EXEMPT THE GOLF COURSES. 
          OH, THEN THE CEMETERIES ARE GONNA COME ON AND SAY, WHAT ABOUT US? OKAY, LET'S EXEMPT THE CEMETERIES. 
          AND THEN ONCE YOU EXEMPT THE CEMETERIES, THE GOLF COURSES, THE TOWN PROPERTIES, YOU'RE NOT GETTING PEACE AND QUIET FOR A VAST NUMBER OF RESIDENTS IN THIS TOWN BECAUSE WE'RE SURROUNDED BY CEMETERIES, GOLF COURSES AND TOWN PROPERTY. 
          . 
          WELL, I THINK I AGREE HERE IS, I I AGREE. 
          AND IF YOU SAY, WELL, SOMEONE COULD SLIP THAT IS GOING TO BE APPLICABLE TO ANY VISTA, TO A CEMETERY, ANY MEMBER OF A GOLF COURSE, ANY GUEST OF A MEMBER OF A GOLF COURSE, ANYONE WITH A DRIVEWAY, SOMEONE COULD COME ON THE PROPERTY SLIP, THE POSTMAN COULD SLIP. 
          I, I I AM NOT SEEING EITHER A, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, FRANCIS OR B THE PRACTICAL ENFORCEABILITY OF IT. 
          I'M SORRY, I CUT OFF TERRY. 
          TERRY, GO AHEAD. 
          WELL, I WAS, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS BEFORE WHAT I HAD ASKED, AND I THINK RICH AND JERRY WERE RESPOND, THESE, UH, RESPONDING POSITIVELY IS, AND WE REALLY LOOK VERY SPECIFICALLY AT THE TASKS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          BECAUSE IN SOME CASES I CAN THINK THAT PERHAPS WHEN WE GET TOGETHER AND TALK SOME OF THE TASKS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE TOWN AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT'S YOUR LEVEL OF COMFORT LEVEL WITH OUR SAYING, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS IN THE FUTURE OR WE'RE GOING TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY. 
          AND I THINK THAT MAY BE WHERE WE'LL FIND OUT WHICH WAY IS THE BEST WAY TO GO, BECAUSE WE MAY FIND THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW TASKS THAT THEY REALLY THINK IN THE END THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BLOWER FOR. 
          OR THEY MAY BE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'VE SUGGESTED TO, TO MIKE AND MYSELF THAT WILL, WE'LL FEEL DIFFERENTLY, BUT WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION TO WORK WITH. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY KEY IS THAT WE WORK WITH REAL ITEMS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN WE TALK THEM THROUGH AND SAY, IS THIS ITEM ONE THAT IS RESOLVABLE? IS THIS AN ITEM THAT WE ARE JUST ALL TALKING AROUND IT? AND THE REALITY IS THAT IN MANY CASES WE ARE LIVING WITH IT AND IT'S NOT A PROBLEM AND WE'RE INVENTING AN EXCUSE OR A REASON THAT WE JUST HAVE UNCERTAINTY OR CONCERN THAT MAYBE ISN'T LEGITIMATE. 
          SO LET'S SEE WHERE WHEN WE NEED 
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IT GOES AND WHAT WHAT STANDARD COMES UP WITH AND WE CAN WALK THROUGH IT AND SORT OF MINIMIZE THE STAFF LIST AND SEE WHAT'S ACTUALLY ON IT AND HOW APPLICABLE IT IS TO EVERY ANYBODY ELSE. 
          CERTAINLY THE PROBLEM THAT, UM, OF THE TREE REMOVAL, THAT WAS ONE THAT WE SAW NOT JUST BEING A PROBLEM OF PUBLIC WORKS, BUT JUST TO BEING OF A PROBLEM. 
          WE HAVE A TREE IN THE STREET, YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. 
          BUT THAT'S, WELL, I THINK THIS IS, AND THERESA CAN WE ALSO, MY DEALS WITH THERESA. 
          CAN WE ALSO, WHEN WE MEET, UH, JUST TALK ABOUT THE, UH, THE LENGTH OF TIME FOR THE SPRING CLEANUP VERSUS THE FALL. 
          I THINK IT'S A 10 WEEK VERSUS EIGHT WEEK, AND THEN HOW YOU CAME ABOUT THAT. 
          'CAUSE THAT WOULD REALLY APPLY TO US AND THE ENTIRE TOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE CERTAINLY THAT WE COME UP WITH A TIME THAT IF A LANDSCAPER'S COMING IN DURING THOSE TIME, THEY'RE SAYING, YEAH, THAT'S A REASONABLE TIME WHEN WE DO IT OR NOT. 
          I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCORPORATED, YOU KNOW, INTO , RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE LOOK OKAY. 
          SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU. 
          SO I THINK WE MADE SOME PROGRESS. 
          YEP. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD NIGHT. 
          IF WE DON'T CHAT IN ADVANCE, HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, KATE. 
          NEXT, UH, WE HAVE SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER. 
          NINA ORVILLE. 
          GREAT. 
          HI EVERYBODY. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN TO ENROLL ITS OWN MUNICIPAL ACCOUNTS IN COMMUNITY SOLAR, UM, COMMUNITY SOLAR INSTALLATIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE CONSTRUCTED, UH, BY A SOLAR DEVELOPER IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG. 
          AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN, UM, TO ENROLL AND TO SAVE MONEY ON ITS ELECTRICITY BILLS. 
          AND, UM, I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT I CAN GO THROUGH IF THAT'S USEFUL TO, TO PEOPLE. 
          I HAD EMAILED IT EARLIER, BUT I CAN UM, ZIP YOUR, YOU CAN SHARE IT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, LEMME SEE. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT COMMUNITY SOLAR IS, THE FACT THAT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN TRADITIONAL SOLAR IN THAT IT'S CONSTRUCTED OFFSITE AND THE ENERGY IS EXPORTED TO THE ELECTRICITY GRID. 
          THEN UTILITY CUSTOMERS IN THIS CASE, INCLUDING THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, CAN SUBSCRIBE TO PARTICULAR COMMUNITY SOLAR INSTALLATIONS THAT RESULTS IN, UM, COMMUNITY SOLAR CREDITS BEING APPLIED TO THE SUBSCRIBER'S UTILITY BILL FOR WHICH THE SUBSCRIBER PAYS A DISCOUNTED AMOUNT AND THEREBY SAVES MONEY. 
          UM, COMMUNITY SOLAR IS, IS A, AN APPROACH THAT WAS CODIFIED BY NEW YORK STATE A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          IT'S A KEY ELEMENT OF THE STATE'S, UM, CLIMATE STRATEGY. 
          IT'S DESIGNED TO INCREASE RENEWABLE ENERGY PRODUCTION WHILE IMPROVING, UM, EQUITY AND ACCESS TO THE BENEFITS OF RENEWABLE ENERGY BY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. 
          AND I WOULD SAY ALSO BY NOT-FOR-PROFIT ENTITIES, INCLUDING MUNICIPALITIES. 
          THE WAY IT WORKS IS FOR EVERY COMMUNITY SOLAR INSTALLATION, 60% OF THE SOLAR CREDITS HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED TO RESIDENTIAL OR RELIGIOUS CUSTOMERS, OR VERY SMALL COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. 
          AND 40% OF THE SOLAR CREDITS FROM EACH COMMUNITY SOLAR INSTALLATION CAN BE ALLOCATED TO A LARGE USER. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ROLE THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBERG WOULD PLAY. 
          AND AT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, WE'RE FOCUSED ON BRINGING THE BENEFITS OF COMMUNITY SOLAR TO MUNICIPALITIES, PARTICULARLY MUNICIPALITIES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE WESTCHESTER POWER PROGRAM AND DIRECTLY TO LOW AND MODERATE INCOME RESIDENTS AND TO INSTITUTIONS THAT SERVE THEM. 
          UM, THE SAVINGS ARE 10% ON THE VALUE OF THE SOLAR CREDITS. 
          THERE'S NO UPFRONT COST TO PARTICIPATE, NO SOLAR INSTALLATION. 
          YOU'RE DIRECTLY SUPPORTING NEW LOCAL SOLAR DEVELOPMENT. 
          IN THIS INSTANCE, THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE, UM, THROUGH THE SOLAR DEVELOPER, THERE ARE NO FEES, THERE ARE NO PENALTIES FOR CANCELING FOR THE TOWN IF FOR ANY REASON THE, THE TOWN WOULD WANT TO CANCEL. 
          AND IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH, UM, NYPA WITH BEING A NYPA CUSTOMER. 
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THE PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITY THAT, UM, WE HAVE AVAILABLE NOW IS THAT THERE ARE THREE COMMUNITY SOLAR, UM, FACILITIES THAT ARE, UM, SCHEDULED TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG. 
          THEY'RE LOCATED ON BUILDINGS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE ROBERT MARTIN COMPANY AND G N SS SOLAR IS THE SOLAR DEVELOPER THAT IS, UM, INTENDING TO CONSTRUCT AND TO OPERATE THEM. 
          IT'S A TOTAL OF 1.3 MEGAWATTS OF SOLAR. 
          THE VALUE OF THE SOLAR CREDITS THAT THE ANCHOR SUBSCRIBER WOULD RECEIVE IS $178,000. 
          THE ANCHOR SUBSCRIBER WOULD PAY G N S SOLAR 90% OF THAT VALUE, OR 160,000, AND THAT WOULD RESULT IN SAVINGS OF ALMOST $18,000 A YEAR. 
          THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TOWNS UP IN NORTHERN WESTCHESTER THAT HAVE, UM, ALREADY CONTRACTED TO, TO, TO BE ANCHOR SUBSCRIBERS FOR COMMUNITY SOLAR FACILITIES IN NYSEG TERRITORY. 
          AND WE JUST, UM, HAVE ESSENTIALLY BEEN GIVEN THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS TO, UM, ENTITIES THAT ARE IN CONED. 
          UH, SO GREENBERG IS, UM, IS ONE OF THE FIRST, UM, ENTITIES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO, UM, THE, THE NEXT STEPS. 
          I HAD SENT A COPY OF THE, THE AGREEMENT, BUT I CAN SEND IT, UH, AGAIN, UH, FOR, FOR THE TOWN'S REVIEW, IF THE TOWN HASN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO, TO LOOK AT THAT, IT'S VERY CUSTOMER FRIENDLY. 
          AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S NO, UM, PENALTY FOR, FOR CANCELING AND THERE'S NO COST TO PARTICIPATE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE STEPS WOULD BE FOR THE TOWN TO MAKE A REQUEST TO THE NEW YORK POWER AUTHORITY FOR INFORMATION REGARDING ITS ELECTRICITY USAGE. 
          AND THEN AT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, WE WOULD MATCH THE, UM, COMMUNITY SOLAR CREDITS THAT WOULD BE GENERATED FROM EACH OF THESE THREE COMMUNITY SOLAR FACILITIES WITH AN APPROPRIATE NYPA ACCOUNT, UM, TO, TO OFFSET THE, UH, THE, THE USAGE THERE. 
          AND THEN, UM, ONCE THE PROJECTS ARE CONSTRUCTED, THE, THE AND GENERATING CREDITS, UM, THE TOWN WOULD BEGIN SAVING MONEY. 
          THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH IF THE TOWN IS INTERESTED. 
          WE'VE ENROLLED, UM, OVER 1100 PEOPLE THROUGHOUT WESTCHESTER COUNTY IN, IN COMMUNITY SOLAR. 
          AND THE SAVINGS FOR INDIVIDUALS ARE THE SAME AS WHAT THE SAVINGS WOULD BE FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UP TO 10% OFF THE TOTAL ELECTRICITY BILL. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY THAT, THAT I'M HERE TO, TO SHARE WITH YOU. 
          I THINK THIS IS FANTASTIC. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE, UH, THE NEXT STEPS? I MEAN, DOES ANY BOARD MEMBER HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS? UH, FRANCIS YOU UNMUTED YOURSELF. 
          I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN RUNNING AROUND AND , SO I I WAS TRYING TO AVOID THE, UH, THE BACKGROUND NOISE. 
          UM, YEAH, NO, I, I SUPPORT, UH, COMMUNITY SOLAR AND THE, UH, THE CONCEPT BEHIND IT. 
          AND ACTUALLY I URGE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO ALSO, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. 
          UM, DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE, UH, THE ROBERT MARTIN PROPERTIES WILL ACTUALLY, UH, BE COMPLETED? THE, THE LAST I DISCUSSED WITH THE, WITH G N S SOLAR, THEY WERE, UM, AT THAT TIME THEY WERE PREPARING, UM, TO, TO SUBMIT THE PERMITS TO THE TOWN. 
          SO, UH, THIS SOLAR DEVELOPER HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ROBERT MARTIN TO PUT SOLAR ON ESSENTIALLY ALL OF THE ELIGIBLE ROBERT MARTIN PROPERTIES ACROSS WESTCHESTER COUNTY AND NEW YORK CITY. 
          AND THE GREENBERG PROPERTIES ARE AMONG THE FIRST THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO, TO, UM, TO BE CONSTRUCTED. 
          SO I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE, BUT THE, THE INTENTION IS TO MOVE THOSE PROJECTS FORWARD QUICKLY. 
          SO YOU WOULD SIGN UP NOW, BUT YOU WOULDN'T GET THE 10%, UM, DISCOUNT UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY GO INTO OPERATION, CORRECT? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S THE WAY COMMUNITY SOLAR WORKS. 
          BASICALLY, THE SOLAR DEVELOPERS DON'T WANT TO BE CONSTRUCTING 
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THE, THE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECTS UNTIL THE PROJECTS ARE FULLY SUBSCRIBED. 
          SO IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS THE CASE THAT THERE WILL BE A LAG BETWEEN WHEN YOU ENROLL AND WHEN THE PROJECT GOES LIVE AND STARTS GENERATING CREDITS. 
          AND WOULD IT THEN BE A TWO YEAR CONTRACT, OR HOW WOULD THAT WORK? IT IT IS A TWO YEAR CONTRACT, UM, THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW UNLESS EITHER PARTY DECIDES TO CANCEL. 
          AND AGAIN, THE SUBSCRIBER CAN CANCEL AT ANY TIME WITH NO PENALTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO TWO YEAR CONTRACT, TYPICALLY THE WAY, UH, A SOLAR DEVELOPER WOULD THINK ABOUT IT IS THAT THEY WOULD WANT THE SUBSCRIBERS TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE PROJECT FOR THE LIFE OF THE, THE, THE SOLAR PROJECT, WHICH WOULD BE 20 TO 25 YEARS. 
          SO THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT IS NOT THAT LONG, BUT WHEN SOLAR DEVELOPERS ARE THINKING ABOUT COMMUNITY SOLAR SUBSCRIBERS, THEY BASICALLY ONLY WANNA GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THEM ON BOARD ONCE AND THEN HAVE THEM HAVE THEM STAY, UM, AS, AS PART OF THE, THE PROJECT. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          NINA WHAT? NINA WHAT? SORRY, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LEADING QUESTIONS. 
          JUST LET ME FINISH. 
          SURE. 
          UH, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE IS NO PENALTY. 
          I, I KNOW SOME COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECTS, THERE IS A PENALTY OR A, A CHARGE TO, UH, BREAK THE TWO YEAR AGREEMENT, BUT THE ROBERT MARTIN ONES WILL NOT HAVE ANY, ANY CHARGE FOR BREAKING THE AGREEMENT. 
          IT IT, THAT'S A, IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION, AND ACTUALLY THAT'S A GOOD PART OF THE WORK THAT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER DOES. 
          WE RE REVIEW THESE ENROLLMENT OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT? WE WILL NOT WORK WITH A SOLAR DEVELOPER THAT REQUIRES ANY KIND OF PENALTY FOR SOMEONE TO CANCEL. 
          WE, WE DON'T WANT ANY, ANYONE WHO SUBSCRIBES THROUGH SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER TO FACE A POSSIBLE PENALTY. 
          UM, THERE ARE ALSO, UM, COMMUNITY SOLAR PROVIDERS THAT CHARGE MONTHLY FEES TO ESSENTIALLY MANAGE THE, THE, UM, SUBSCRIBERS. 
          AND WE DON'T WORK WITH ANYBODY WHO CHARGES SUBSCRIBERS A FEE. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY YOU ARE GUARANTEED THAT YOU'LL SAVE 10% OFF THE VALUE OF THE CREDITS YOU RECEIVE. 
          AND, UM, YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO CANCEL IF YOU CHOOSE. 
          WHAT, WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR IN THE YEAR AND A HALF OR SO THAT WE'VE BEEN, UM, OFFERING COMMUNITY SOLAR IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY IS THAT THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE HAVE LEFT THE PROGRAM IS THAT THEY'VE DECIDED TO INSTALL SOLAR ON THEIR OWN HOME. 
          WHICH, UM, THAT'S A WAY TO SAVE EVEN MORE IF YOU'RE A, A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THAT OR, UM, THEY HAVE LEFT THE UTILITY SERVICE TERRITORY. 
          SO IF YOU, IF YOU LEAVE CONED, YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR SUBSCRIPTION WITH YOU. 
          IF YOU MOVE FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER WITHIN CONED, YOU CAN BY JUST BY NOTIFYING THE PROVIDER OF YOUR NEW, UM, CONED ACCOUNT NUMBER. 
          AND MY, MY LAST, MY LAST COMMENT OR UM, WAS THAT I KEPT GETTING EMAILS ABOUT COMMUNITY SOLAR 'CAUSE IT'S A GENERIC TERM, AND THEY HAD MY ADDRESS, THEY HAD MY, MY NAME AND THEY, THEY, THEY SAID YOU JUST HAD TO VERIFY THE INFORMATION AND IT HAD ACCURATE INFORMATION IN THERE. 
          IT MADE IT, IT MADE IT SEEM LIKE IT WAS COMING, UH, FROM, I I THOUGHT IT WAS COMING FROM, UM, UM, YOU'RE A COMPANY SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER. 
          AND SO I CALLED AND IT WASN'T, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS SOME, SOME COMPANY IN ANOTHER STATE SOMEPLACE. 
          UM, AND, UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF MY, THE CLUES WAS THAT THEY HAD A CHARGE. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY I CALLED TO ASK COULD THIS BE LEGITIMATE? AND I WAS TOLD NO. 
          OH, YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT IS, THAT WAS NOT SUSTAINABLE. 
          WESTCHESTER. 
          RIGHT. 
          LENA, WHAT DOES NO UPFRONT COST MEAN? AND WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR QUALIFYING AS DISADVANTAGED? GREAT. 
          SO, UM, NO UPFRONT COST IS LARGELY DIFFERENTIATING COMMUNITY SOLAR FROM TRADITIONAL SOLAR. 
          SO IF, UM, IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO INSTALL SOLAR ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY, YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT, OR YOU HAVE TO FINANCE THAT. 
          WITH COMMUNITY SOLAR, YOU CAN ENROLL AND THERE'S NO COST TO PARTICIPATE, THERE'S NO COST TO, TO ENROLL. 
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UM, IN TERMS OF YOUR QUESTION ABOUT DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES OR DISADVANTAGED INDIVIDUALS, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING ACTUALLY THAT NEW YORK STATE IS FOCUSING ON. 
          IN THE CLIMATE LAW THAT WAS ADOPTED BY NEW YORK STATE, THEY REQUIRE THAT A MINIMUM OF 35% OF THE INVESTMENT THAT IS MADE TO ACHIEVE THE CLIMATE GOALS BENEFIT DISADVANTAGED, UM, NEW YORKERS AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. 
          WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, I THINK OFTEN HAS TO DO WITH INCOME. 
          UM, BUT IT MIGHT ALSO BE APPLIED IN A MORE TARGETED WAY TO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SUFFERED, UM, SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS IF THEY LIVE NEAR, UM, FOSSIL FUEL, UH, RELATED PLANTS OR THEY LIVE NEAR FACILITIES WHERE THERE ARE HIGH LEVELS OF ASTHMA, FOR INSTANCE. 
          UM, THAT'S A POSSIBLE SCREEN. 
          AND IN ORDER TO QUALIFY, DO INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN CREDIT STANDING? UM, THAT'S ONE QUESTION. 
          AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UNDER THIS NEW YORK STATE PROGRAM, DO THE, UM, INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD QUALIFY UNDER DISADVANTAGE, UM, HAVE THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE SOLAR PANELS, UH, INSTALLED FOR FREE OF CHARGE? SO WITH COMMUNITY SOLAR, THERE'S NO SOLAR INSTALLED ON SITE. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO BE INSTALLED ON ANYBODY'S HOME, ON ANYBODY'S PROPERTY. 
          INSTEAD YOU ARE SUBSCRIBING TO A SOLAR INSTALLATION THAT'S LOCATED IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. 
          OH. 
          UM, THAT, THAT'S THE KEY DIFFERENCE. 
          UM, AND, UH, ALMOST ANYBODY CAN ENROLL. 
          YOU HAVE TO BE A UTILITY CUSTOMER. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO IF YOU ARE A RENTER, FOR INSTANCE, BUT YOU DON'T PAY YOUR OWN UTILITY BILL, YOU CANNOT ENROLL IF UTILITIES ARE INCLUDED IN, IN YOUR RENT. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE A RENTER AND YOU DO PAY YOUR OWN UTILITY, YOU, YOU CAN ENROLL. 
          IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY LIKE ABOUT COMMUNITY SOLAR. 
          AND IN, IN THE PAST, YOU HAD TO BE A HOMEOWNER. 
          YOU HAD TO OWN PROPERTY. 
          IF YOU, IF YOU WERE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM A SOLAR INSTALLATION WITH COMMUNITY SOLAR, AS LONG AS YOU PAY A UTILITY BILL MM-HMM. 
          , ANY INDIVIDUAL CAN ENROLL. 
          THERE'S NO CREDIT SCORE. 
          ANY, UM, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION CAN, CAN ENROLL. 
          AND THEN IN TERMS OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, SUSTAINABLE, WESTCHESTER LOOKS AT THEIR ELIGIBILITY IN A CASE BY CASE WAY. 
          IN TERMS OF THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN CHAMPIONS. 
          YOU STEPPED UP WITH THE WESTCHESTER POWER PROGRAM, YOU'RE BRINGING THE BENEFITS OF RENEWABLE ENERGY TO YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND WE WANNA BRING YOU THE TOWN A BENEFIT THAT'S GONNA SAVE YOU MONEY AND, AND HELP YOU DIRECTLY, UM, SUPPORT MORE SOLAR PRODUCTION IN, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU'RE REALLY PLEASED THAT THESE FACILITIES ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED IN THE TOWN. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          NICE CONNECTED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO GOOD. 
          SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? SO THE, THE NEXT STEP IS FOR THE TOWN TO REVIEW AND SIGN THIS, UM, STRAIGHTFORWARD AGREEMENT. 
          AND THEN FOR SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER TO WORK WITH, I GUESS IT'S THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, JUST TO DETERMINE WHICH OF YOUR ELECTRICITY ACCOUNTS ARE THE BEST FIT FOR THESE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR YOU. 
          BUT THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT. 
          WOULD, WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED A TOM BOARD RESOLUTION, OR WE, OR, UH, I MEAN, WE'RE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY. 
          WE COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, NEXT TUESDAY, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, OR DO WE BASICALLY JUST SAY, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT TONIGHT AND THEN MOVE FORWARD IF EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT NEEDS A RESOLUTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN WE SHOULD, CAN WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TUESDAY? WE GO AHEAD. 
          GREAT. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE TOWN, OBVIOUSLY, IN ANY WAY THAT, THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA BRING THIS TO, TO RESIDENTS. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AS YEAH. 
          IF YOU COULD MAYBE GIVE, COULD YOU GIVE, UH, TIM, TIM, YOU ON HERE? UH, TIM LEWIS? YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY DRAFT RESOLUTION WOULD BE HELPFUL IF ONE YEAH, BUT I'M SAYING YOU, COULD YOU GIVE US LIKE A DRAFT RESOLUTION? UH, YOU, YOU, 
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YOU'RE ASKING ME IF I COULD DO THAT? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          UH, SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT WILL, I'LL, I'LL LOOK AND MAKE IT EASIER. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE TOWN OF BEDFORD YOU COULD SEE HAS USED. 
          THAT'D BE FINE. 
          MAYBE TOMORROW YOU COULD SEE WE'RE BACKLOG AND I'M, I'M REALLY NOT, UH, I'M TRYING TO SORT OF MOVE THINGS ALONG WITHOUT GREAT, UH, THINGS FLOWING THROUGH THE CRACKS. 
          OF COURSE. 
          YES. 
          UH, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          I'LL SEND THAT TO YOU, TIM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD. 
          OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, LET'S SEE THE, WE'RE MOVING, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT WE HAVE, UH, THE WINTER PARKING ISSUE WITH THE CHIEF. 
          THERE'S THE CHIEF IN, YEAH, PAUL, I'M HERE. 
          I SAW THAT THE NATURE CENTER WAS AHEAD OF ME, BUT I I NO, THAT'S, WE HELD THAT OVER. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO LAST WEEK I SUBMITTED A, A PROPOSAL THAT EXPANDED UPON THE, UM, THE SNOW PARKING SPECIAL PERMIT THAT WAS GRANTED IN VERY LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE PAST. 
          AND THAT'S ENUMERATED IN THE TOWN CODE. 
          AND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I GAVE WAS ONE THAT GRANTS AN EXTREME HARDSHIP WITH, WITH SET CRITERIA IN IT. 
          THE, THE PROCESS I HAD SUBMITTED INCLUDED THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE BEING, UH, INVOLVED IN ADMINISTERING THAT. 
          AND AFTER TALKING TO THE SUPERVISOR, UH, WE CAN CHANGE THAT IF, IF THAT'S THE, THE DESIRE OF THE TOWN BOARD TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ADMINISTERING THIS A HARDSHIP EXEMPTION. 
          AND IF YOU WANT ME TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, I CAN TALK ABOUT THE CRITERIA THAT WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD LOOK FOR IN THIS HARDSHIP EXEMPTION. 
          STEVE, COULD YOU ALSO PLEASE, UH, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING THIS. 
          UH, COULD YOU PLEASE ALSO EXPOUND UPON WHAT THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE WITH REGARDS TO THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE? I, I, UH, JUDITH, I, I RECOMMENDED TO THE CHIEF THAT IT BE DONE AT LEAST THE FIRST YEAR BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE EXEMPTIONS, THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE IT. 
          AND MY FEELING IS THAT IF THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD DO THE REVIEW AND, UM, AND BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WILL BE LESS POLITICAL BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY SEES A CAR ON THE STREET, UM, AND YOUR OFFICE ISSUES A PERMIT, BUT YOU DON'T ISSUE A PERMIT TO SOMEBODY ELSE, IT'S GONNA BE BECOME A, PEOPLE ARE GONNA FEEL AS A POLITICAL, YOU KNOW, DECISION ON , THE POLICE, UH, DO IT AND IT'S SUCCESSFUL. 
          WHICH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WILL BE. 
          AND I, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I I THINK IT JUST BECOMES, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT MORE PEOPLE WILL, WILL HAVE, UH, WILL BE, WILL BE SUPPORTIVE BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, IT MUST BE HUNDREDS OF EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS ABOUT THIS FROM PEOPLE ON ALL SIDES. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          WELL, THANK YOU, PAUL, BECAUSE I WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO ADMINISTER ANYTHING WITH THE SIGN OFF AND APPROVAL AND SIGNATURES OF THE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD AND THE POLICE CHIEF AND ANYONE ELSE INVOLVED. 
          UM, I'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO BE A TEAM PLAYER IN THIS EFFORT, BUT THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, I JUST DON'T WANT, I, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          THERE'S, FROM MY EXPERIENCES, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEGITIMATE ISSUES MM-HMM. 
           WITH PARKING, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR NEIGHBORS MAY NOT LIKE THEM. 
          AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE THING IS IF THEY GET A PERMIT AND THEIR NEIGHBORS DON'T LIKE THEM, THEN THEY'RE, I, I'D RATHER THAT IT BE LIKE TOTALLY APOLITICAL THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S JUST MY OWN LINE. 
          CHIEF, WOULD YOU GIVE US, GIVE US THE, THE CRITERIA. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE FIRST CRITERIA IS IF A RESIDENT OF THE PREMISES HAS NO DRIVEWAY OR PARKING AVAILABLE, WHETHER FREE OR FOR RENT ON THE PREMISES, THAT THERE'S NO AREA ON THE PREMISES WHERE A DRIVEWAY OR PARKING AREA CAN BE PROVIDED OR CONSTRUCTED BY THE OWNER. 
          UH, THE SECOND CRITERIA WOULD BE A DRIVEWAY OR PARKING AREA EXISTS ON THE PREMISES, BUT DUE TO THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ENTITLED TO PARK, ENTITLED TO PARK ON THE PREMISES, THERE'S NO ROOM TO PARK AND THE RESIDENT'S VEHICLE. 
          AND THERE IS NO AREA ON THE PREMISES WHERE ADDITIONAL PARKING CAN BE PROVIDED OR CONSTRUCTED BY THE OWNER. 
          THE THIRD CRITERIA IS THE RESIDENT IS PHYSICALLY HANDICAPPED AND POSSESSES EITHER A HANDICAPPED PARKING PERMIT AUTHORIZED BY LAW, OR A VEHICLE DISPLAYS HANDICAPPED LICENSE PLATES. 
          AND THE APPLICANT'S HANDICAP PREVENTS HIM OR HER FROM WALKING FROM A DESIGNATED OFF STREET PARKING AREA TO THE PREMISES. 
          THE FOURTH CRITERIA IS THE RESIDENT IS REQUIRED IN WRITING BY HIS OR HER EMPLOYER TO HAVE A COMPANY VEHICLE. 
          AND THERE'S NO OFF STREET PARKING PROVIDED OR AVAILABLE FOR SUCH VEHICLE 
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ON THE PREMISES. 
          FIFTH CRITERIA IS THE APPLICANT IS TEMPORARY OCCUPANT DUE TO STATUS AS EITHER A STUDENT, A TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE, A POSSIBLE, UH, TEMPORARY RESIDENCE, AND PARKING IS NOT AVAILABLE ON THE PREMISES EITHER FOR FREE OR FOR RENT. 
          AND THERE ARE ALREADY VEHICLES PARKED ON THE PREMISES, LEAVING NO ROOM FOR THE APPLICANT'S VEHICLE. 
          AND THE, THE FINAL CRITERIA, THE APPLICANT, BY VIRTUE OF HIS OR HER TRADE, EMPLOYMENT, OR SPECIAL TRAINING, IS DETERMINED TO BE NECESSARY FOR EMERGENCIES OR LIFE SUPPORT, ER, UM, I E POLICE, FIRE AMBULANCE, E M T, NURSE, DOCTOR, ET CETERA, WHOSE VEHICLES MUST HAVE IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC HIGHWAYS. 
          AND NO SUCH ACCESS EXISTS ON THE PREMISES. 
          THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES REGISTERED OR PRIMARILY USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA. 
          THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE MADE UP. 
          WE LOOK TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THE VILLAGE OF ING, WE SPOKE TO EASTCHESTER, SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, MUNICIPALITIES THAT DO HAVE EXEMPTIONS TO, TO THEIR PARKING ORDINANCES. 
          AND WE THINK IT'S A GOOD START. 
          WE'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF A TOTAL, UH, REPEAL OF OUR CURRENT LAW, BUT IF PEOPLE CAN, CAN SHOW THAT THEY HAVE ONE OF THESE HARDSHIPS, THEN I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO FOR OUR RESIDENTS. 
          AND IT, IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THE, UM, THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY'D HAVE TO MOVE THE CAR IN THE EVENT OF A SNOW EVENT. 
          SO SNOW, WE WOULD DECLARE A SNOW EMERGENCY, AND JUST AS WE DID WITH, UH, THE EAST HARTSDALE A COLUMBIA AVENUE AREA, THE, THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REMOVE THEIR CARS DURING THE DESIGNATED SNOW EMERGENCY. 
          EXCUSE ME, THIS IS PAT WILLIAMS. CAN I INTERJECT A QUESTION? PLEASE? PAUL? WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE BECAUSE IN MY COMMUNITY WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. 
          AND THE PROBLEM ARISES IS EVEN WHEN THEY USE ALL THE PARKING SPACES IN THEIR YARD, THERE'S STILL AN OVERDRAFT. 
          I RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK IN MY COMMUNITY. 
          SO NOW WHEN YOU HAVE PARKING AND THEY'VE ALREADY PUT IN, UM, PAVED IN THEIR BACKYARDS FOR PARKING, ADDED A SPACE IN THE FRONT, THEN THIS IS OVERCROWDING WITHIN THE HOUSE ITSELF. 
          WHAT RELIEF DO PEOPLE IN MY, IN MY CIVIC ASSOCIATION AREA HAVE WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THAT PROBLEM? YEAH, IT'S MS. WILLIAMS. IF, IF, IF I COULD JUST CONTINUE PART OF THE APP, UH, APPROVAL PROCESS IS WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND IT WILL HELP TO IDENTIFY ILLEGAL TENANTS AND BORDERS AS WELL. 
          SO BEFORE ANY PERMIT IS ISSUED, THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, A BACKGROUND CHECK BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CRITERIA SET FOR IN THE APPLICATION. 
          AND THERE WILL ALSO BE A CHECK BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR ANY ILLEGAL TENANTS AND BORDERS INVOLVED. 
          I'M SORRY, YOU'RE BREAKING UP. 
          COULD YOU REPEAT JUST WHAT YOU SAID ON THE LAST PART? SO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL ALSO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, AND PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS OF THIS HARDSHIP EXEMPTION INCLUDES THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, IDENTIFYING ILLEGAL TENANTS AND BORDERS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND YOU HAVE VEHICLES REGISTERED TO, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE, UH, DIFFERENT ADULTS WITH DIFFERENT LAST NAMES, AND, AND DURING OUR INVESTIGATION, WE CAN SHOW THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE LISTED, UH, HOMEOWNERS. 
          UH, THERE'S NOT A FAMILIAL, UH, RELATIONSHIP. 
          WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT WE'LL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF OUR LEGAL, UH, TENANTS AND BORDERS. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          PART OF THE APPLICATION NEEDS TO STATE WHERE THEY WILL PARK WHEN THE SNOW, THERE IS A SNOW EVENT. 
          IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO SAY, WE HAVE NO PLACE TO PARK, AND THEN IT SNOWS AND THEY SAY, WELL, THERE IS NO PLACE TO PARK. 
          AND IT STAYS ON THE STREET. 
          AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A PROVISION IN, IN THE LAW THAT STATES THAT IF A VEHICLE IS PLOWING THE ROADS WITH THEIR LIGHTS ON AND, AND HITS A PARKED CAR, UH, THERE'S A VERY DIFFERENT STANDARD. 
          UM, AND THE, THE LIKELIHOOD IS THE PERSON'S NOT GOING TO BE REIMBURSED BY THE TOWN FOR THAT ANY DAMAGE TO THAT VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, UNLESS IT WAS SHOWN TO BE INTENTIONAL. 
          BUT THAT'S LIKELY NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 
          UM, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT VEHICLE, MUNICIPAL VEHICLES IN AN EMERGENCY OPERATION, WHICH IS, UH, SNOW PLOWING, UM, THEY, UM, THEY, THEY FOLLOW A DIFFERENT STANDARD. 
          AND, UM, I EXPLAINED LAST TIME HOW WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PAY SOMEBODY WHO 
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WAS PER PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE GOING ALONG THE ROAD. 
          AND A TOWN VEHICLE PLOW ACTUALLY T-BONED THE CAR JUST DRIVING ALONG. 
          ABSOLUTELY DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG. 
          AND THE TOWN COULD NOT COMPENSATE ONE PENNY FOR THE OWNER OF THAT VEHICLE. 
          SO WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET THEIR CARS OFF THE ROAD, UH, WHEN, WHEN THERE'S A SNOWSTORM, AND DON'T USE THE PERMIT AS WELL. 
          I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, THE TICKET IS GOING TO BE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PRICE OF PARKING THERE AND HOW OFTEN IS IT GONNA SNOW, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE IT'LL COST ME A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS DURING THE SNOW SEASON THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY RISKY TO DO IT THAT WAY. 
          IS THERE A LIMIT? IS THERE A LIMIT OF HOW MANY INFRACTIONS YOU CAN HAVE BEFORE YOU'LL BE BANNED FROM JUST PARKING THERE? CHIEF? UH, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER. 
          I, I CONFIRM WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, COURT, THERE'S A SCOFF LAW THAT, UM, IF THEY DON'T PAY PARKING TICKETS, THE CARS WOULD BE, WOULD BE TOWED. 
          UH, BUT YEAH, THIS IS A CASE WHERE IF WE FIND THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT COMPLYING WITH THE LAW, WE WOULD NOT RENEW A PERMIT. 
          WE COULD EVEN REVOKE ONE. 
          SO THAT SHOULD BE PART OF, PART OF, PART OF, I ALSO THINK IT SHOULD BE AN ANNUAL, NOT A, NOT A BIANNUAL, SO THAT YOU CAN CATCH THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          I, I, I LIKE THAT. 
          I DON'T, WHEN MS. JACKSON ASKED THE QUESTION, IT STILL DIDN'T ANSWER HER. 
          I, AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, INSOFAR AS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY CONTINUE TO PARK THERE YOU SAID A SCOFF FLOOR THAT PUTS THE BOOT ON THE CAR, THE CAR IS STILL THERE. 
          SCOFF FLOOR TOWS THE CAR. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT WOULD, THE SCOFF FLOOR MEANS THAT IT WOULD BE TOWED. 
          YEAH. 
          THE TOWN DOES NOT BOOT CARS. 
          WE TOW CARS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS SUBJECT? YEAH, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK. 
          I SENT THAT LAST WEEK, AND, AND IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY MORE FEEDBACK, SO, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS, PLEASE, PLEASE FORWARD THEM TO US IF YOU'D LIKE TO. 
          YEAH, THERE'S STILL WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE ON THE FORM BECAUSE IT STILL SEEMS LIKE IT'S, UM, BEEN EXTRACTED FROM ELSEWHERE, RIGHT? YES, IT WAS, IT WAS MODELED AFTER ONE IN THE VILLAGE OF NING. 
          RIGHT. 
          WOULD, UH, WOULD, UH, SO WOULD WE BE ABLE TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK? YOU THINK YOU HAVE IT READY, CHIEF? I, I'LL HAVE IT READY. 
          I, I MEAN, WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD SUGGESTIONS TONIGHT IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD. 
          DO WE WANNA GIVE A DEADLINE WITH ANYBODY ELSE GIVEN SOME SUGGESTIONS TO, FOR CONSIDERATION? OTHERWISE, I HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WAS MENTIONED. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE WHAT YOU COULD DO IS WHY DON'T YOU, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, REWRITE IT, UH, THEN I COULD POST IT ON THE, THE WEBSITE AND MENTION THAT IF PEOPLE HAVE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS, THEY SHOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD CONTACT THE BOARD OR YOU. 
          WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANNA OPEN IT UP TO OKAY. 
          RECOMMENDATION. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR AND WITH THE BOARD SUGGESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN, SO THEN, SHOULD WE JUST, SO WE'LL, UM, PUT, IF WE COULD PUT IT THEN ON THE RE ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE, AND IT'S DECEMBER 1ST IS AFTER NEXT WEEK'S, OUR LAST MEETING BEFORE DECEMBER 1ST. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO IF WE HAVE SOMETHING BY FRIDAY EVENING, THEN WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. 
          BUT WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T GO INTO MONDAY. 
          UM, TRYING TO STILL TWEAK LAWS FOR A TUESDAY MEETING. 
          'CAUSE TUESDAY GETS A BIT CRAZY. 
          SO DO YOU THINK YOU CAN PUT IT TOGETHER BY FRIDAY NIGHT? I'LL HAVE IT BY FRIDAY AT NOON. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOOD. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE PAST THE POINT WITH NO RETURN. 
          WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW WE HAVE THE DR UH, UH, OF THE FOUR, UH, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          TIM WANTED TO MENTION SOMETHING. 
          I THINK MARK WEINGARTEN IS, UM, IS ON THE LINE, AND I THINK HE WANTED TO GIVE A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF A PROJECT THAT'S COMING DOWN THE LINE AND ED'S ON AS WELL. 
          I AM ON, UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          AND, UH, EVEN IF IT'S VIRTUALLY, IT'S NICE TO SEE ALL MY FRIENDS. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, SO I HOPE EVERYONE WELL, AND I HOPE EVERYONE IS WELL AND SAFE. 
          I MISS SEEING EVERYBODY. 
          UH, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME'S MARK WEINGARTEN, A PARTNER IN THE LAW FIRM OF DELBELLO AL, AND WEINGARTEN WISE AND WITTAKER. 
          AND I WILL TAKE YOUR COUNSEL'S, UH, ADVICE TO KEEP THIS AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE AND WILL BE, UH, AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          I'M JOINED BY, UH, MY CLIENT, 
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BILL BALTER, UH, PRINCIPAL AND WILDER BALTER PARTNERS. 
          UH, AND, UH, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS A, A PILOT WHICH IS BEING, UH, PROPOSED IN CONNECTION WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF 62 MAIN STREET, THE FORMER Y M C A PROPERTY, UH, IN TAR. 
          SO BRIEFLY TO GO THROUGH IT. 
          UH, THE REASON THIS PROJECT COMES ABOUT, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, NOT HAPPENING ALL THROUGHOUT OUR REGION. 
          THE Y M C A ESSENTIALLY RAN INTO FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES. 
          AND IN ORDER TO STAY IN BUSINESS AND CONTINUE TO CARRY OUT THEIR MISSION, THEY NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR BIG ASSET, WHICH IS THEIR PROPERTY, AND STILL MAINTAIN THEIR MISSION. 
          THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER. 
          I WAS JUST INVOLVED IN ONE IN WHITE PLAINS WHERE Y M C A, UH, IS BEING REPLACED. 
          THEY SOLD THEIR PROPERTY, THEY'RE USING THEIR MONEY TO MAINTAIN THEIR OPERATIONS IN A NEW LOCATION. 
          AND, AND THAT PROJECT IS GOING FORWARD IN WHITE PLAINS. 
          SO THEY WENT OUT LOOKING THROUGH THE DEVELOPER, AND IN MY OPINION, THEY FOUND THE RIGHT ONE. 
          I'VE REPRESENTED AND KNOWN THE, UH, PRINCIPLES OF WILDER BALTER FOR MANY YEARS. 
          THEY'RE PROBABLY THE LEADING AFFORDABLE HOUSING GROUP IN OUR REGION. 
          THEY HAVE BUILT THOUSANDS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS LONG BEFORE IT BECAME POPULAR. 
          AND, UH, I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT, UH, BILL BALTER IS SOMEONE LOOK UP THE, UH, REFERENCES OF THEM AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. 
          I THINK THEIR REPUTATION SPEAKS FOR THEMSELVES. 
          SO THEY'RE ALSO VERY CREATIVE AS A COMPANY. 
          IT'S A NEAT PROJECT. 
          IT HAS, I THINK, FOUR MAJOR BENEFITS, UH, THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED AS A RESULT OF IT. 
          NOT ONLY ARE THERE IN THE PRIMARY ISSUE 108 AFFORDABLE UNITS, UH, WHICH ARE BEING CREATED, UH, VERY SMALL UNITS, 14 STUDIOS AND 94 1 BEDROOMS, WHICH WILL AVERAGE 60 A M I STARTING AT 40 AND GOING UP TO 80. 
          UH, IT IS ALSO PRIMARILY THE SENIOR PROJECT, AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A MOMENT. 
          55 AND OLDER FOR 80%, AND THE OTHERS ARE ALL AFFORDABLE, BUT NOT AGE RESTRICTED. 
          AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A MOMENT. 
          UH, THE MAIN PURPOSE, THE REASONING BEHIND THAT IS WE'RE LOOKING TO PROTECT THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF THE Y M C A WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE Y M C A. 
          AND IT'S BEING BUILT IN A WAY WHERE ONE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS ARE WE ARE, UH, SAVING THE FACADE ON MAIN STREET AND THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, UH, WHERE THE CURRENT RESIDENTS LIVE. 
          AND THEY'RE GONNA REMAIN THERE WHILE WE TAKE DOWN THE BACK PART OF THE BUILDING AND CREATE THE NEW APARTMENTS IN THE BACK SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, UH, DISLOCATE ANY OF THE CURRENT RESIDENTS. 
          AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COME IN AND GET AN APARTMENT IN THE BALANCE OF THE BUILDING. 
          SO WE THINK THAT'S A BIG BENEFIT OF THE WAY THIS IS STRUCTURED. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'S ANOTHER BIG BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT IN THAT NOT ONLY IS IT CREATING 108 AFFORDABLE UNITS, UH, WE'RE, UH, PRESERVING THE HISTORICAL FACADE AND WE ARE PROTECTING THE CURRENT RESIDENTS. 
          BUT IN ADDITION, WE ARE CREATING, UH, AS A RESULT OF THE WAY THAT THE PROJECT SITS, IT'S SIT NEXT, IT SITS NEXT TO A MUNICIPAL PARKING LOT. 
          UH, WHEN WE MET WITH THE MERCHANTS IN THE AREA, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A CONSISTENT DISCUSSION WAS, AND A CONCERN FOR PRESERVING THE TAX BASE IN THE DOWNTOWN, WHICH HAS STRUGGLED THE TIMES, INCLUDING THE PANDEMIC. 
          IT HAS GOTTEN WORSE. 
          ONE OF THE ISSUES IS ADEQUATE PARTY PARKING, UH, PARTICULARLY DURING PEAK HOURS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO USE THE RESTAURANTS AND BE PATRONS OF THE VARIOUS BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN TAR TOWN. 
          AND THE WAY WITH THIS IS STRUCTURED NEXT TO A CURRENT EXISTING MUNICIPAL LOT, WE CAN CREATE A SEAMLESS ENTRANCE INTO OUR PROJECT. 
          UH, THE PARKING FOR OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE BELOW GROUND, AND THE STRUCTURE ABOVE WILL NOW BE MUNICIPAL PARKING. 
          THERE'LL BE 69 MUNICIPAL PARKING THAT WOULD BE PART OF A CONDOMINIUM UNIT OWNED BY THE TARRYTOWN, ALTHOUGH THEY'LL OWN IT. 
          WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE, WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR THE CAPITAL REPAIRS, AND THEY'LL BE IN A 69 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES FOR THE BENEFIT OF WHAT ALL OF THE PATRONS OF THE DOWNTOWN OF TARRYTOWN. 
          SO WHILE THAT GOES ON, WHAT THE, THE POINT OF THIS IS WE ARE, UH, AN H D F C PROJECT WITH H F A FINANCING UNDER THE PRIVATE HOUSING FINANCE LAW. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR A PILOT. 
          WE CAN GO TO THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AGENCY, BUT WE THOUGHT A BETTER WAY WAS TO GO, WHICH YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST ON SOME OTHER PROJECTS, IS THE PRIVATE HOUSING FINANCE LAW ALLOWS THE TOWN TO PROVIDE A PILOT, UH, A PILOT PROJECT. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THE TOWN HAS A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE PROPERTY TAXES ON THIS KIND OF THING. 
          IT'S, IT'S LIKE ABOUT ONE POINT A HALF PERCENT. 
          MOST OF THE TAXES ARE TO THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN WHO SUPPORTS THIS, THE TARRYTOWN SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHO HAS INDICATED SUPPORT OF THIS. 
          AND, UH, WELL, DESPITE THAT, WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH YOUR ASSESSOR AND YOUR TOWN COUNCIL WHO'VE BEEN VERY STRONG IN THIS. 
          AND THEY ARE INSISTING NOT ONLY ON THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT YOU WOULD BE ENTITLED TO UNDER 5 81 A, BUT ALSO AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES THE TOWN SHARE, UH, OF THE BENEFIT FROM THIS PROJECT. 
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SO THAT IS WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. 
          THAT'S THE PRESENTATION. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. 
          I DEFINITELY WOULD SUPPORT IT. 
          OH, DID I LOSE, COULD YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          YES. 
          SO EDIE AND I ARE WORKING WITH, UH, MARK ON THE PILOT, AND AS SOON AS WE FEEL THAT IT'S, UH, READY TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN BOARD, WE'LL DO SO. 
          I'D ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO A A 99 YEAR COVENANT, OR, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE IT TO BE. 
          AND WE'VE GOT THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE, SO WHEN IT'S COMPLETE, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. 
          AND HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT WE CAN GET THIS ON THE TOWN BOARD RESOLUTION. 
          THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, TIM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE OTHER PROJECTS AS TO WHAT WE THINK THE TOWN'S, UH, FOCUS IS. 
          AND, AND WE'VE INCLUDED IT HERE. 
          WE'VE HAD NO ISSUE WITH IT FROM OUR CLIENT ABOUT DOING THAT. 
          I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT WE ARE VERY, UH, SHORTLY EXPECT A, UH, PLANNING BOARD RESOLUTION OF APPROVAL. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN THE ZONING FOR IT. 
          WE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEEKER, WE'RE MOVING TO THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVAL, WHICH WE'RE HOPING IS WITHIN DAYS. 
          UH, AND WE ARE, WE ARE APPROVED AT THE STATE, UH, FOR FINANCING. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING TO CLOSE THIS IN MARCH, AND THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS THAT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE. 
          SO WE WOULD URGE YOU TO GIVE THIS GOOD CONSIDERATION AND EXPEDITED CONSIDERATION SO WE CAN MOVE ON AND, UH, MAKE THESE AFFORDABLE UNITS HAPPEN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THEM. 
          SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND AGAIN, NICE SEEING EVERYONE AND HOPEFULLY IN PERSON SOMEDAY. 
          AND, UH, HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, FROM THE, THE TEXT THAT WE, WE MODELED THIS BASICALLY OVER OUR PREVIOUS, UH, FROM OUR PREVIOUS APPROVALS IN, WHICH I THINK WAS A SMART MOVE, UH, DE DEALING WITH THE 99 YEARS. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT. 
          IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, THE DETAILS OF THE, UH, OF THE PILOT AND ANY FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE, WE CALL THAT THE FRANCIS SHIAN LANGUAGE. 
          , BUT THAT'S OKAY. 
          WE, I, I, THAT'S HOW I REFER TO IT, TIM , YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S SMART. 
          AND I WON'T BE AROUND TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT COMES TO FRUITION TOO. 
          99 YEARS, UH, . 
          BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. 
          YOU NEVER KNOW. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          , YOU NEVER KNOW. 
          HEY, MARK, THANK YOU FOR BEING A CHAMPION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          OH, THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT, RUTH. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          IT IS SOMETHING WE'D LOVE TO DO. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MARK. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          GOODNIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          GOODNIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, UH, THE 2021 BUDGET. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT SINCE IT'S BEEN APPROVED. 
          UM, A JOKE, UM, . 
          YEAH, NOBODY'S LAUGHING, RIGHT? THAT WAS A FAKE LAUGH. 
          UM, SO I THOUGHT, UM, UH, SHOULD WE ASK JOAN TO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU WANNA, HOW DO YOU WANNA WORK? UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BUDGET DISCUSSION. 
          I THINK IF ANY DEPARTMENT HEAD HAS AN ISSUE WITH THEIR, UM, WITH THEIR BUDGET, UH, WITH THAT WAS IN, THAT'S IN THE TENTATIVE BUDGET, UH, THEY SHOULD, UM, LET US KNOW AND, UH, WE COULD TAKE IT FROM THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A REVOLVING DOOR, PEOPLE SAYING THAT. 
          UH, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO MAKE SOME, SOME SACRIFICES AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          SO IT'S ONLY IF THERE'S AN ISSUE YOU WANT ME TO SEND OUT AN, UM, LIKE AN EMAIL TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS? YEAH, SURE. 
          THERE THEY GO. 
          OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, THE DRAG RACING DISCUSSION. 
          IT'S PROBABLY A, IT'S PROBABLY A DISCUSSION OF TRYING TO PREVENT THE DRAG RACING, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          YOU'RE UPSIDE DOWN, , , . 
          UH, SO I, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO, WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO THE WEEDS TOO MUCH HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE WERE THREE LAWS. 
          THE NOISE ORDINANCE I DON'T REALLY HAVE, UH, A, AN ISSUE WITH. 
          UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS IN THE LO THIS LAW THAT WE'VE NEVER, WE DON'T HAVE IN ANY OTHER LAW OR IN OUR CODE ONE, IT ONE, UH, DEALS WITH THAT. 
          IT ONLY APPLIES TO IF GREENBERG POLICE OFFICERS ISSUE THE, THE, THE SUMMONS. 
          UH, WILL WE BE ABLE TO FORFEIT VEHICLES? UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON IS FOR THAT. 
          WHY ON OTHERS, WHY THIS IS THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WE SEEM TO BE SPECIFIC. 
          SO IF A, A STATE POLICE OFFICER 
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OR A COUNTY POLICE OFFICER, UH, ISSUES A TICKET, UH, SUMMONS THAT IT WOULDN'T BE FOR, UH, SUBJECT TO FORFEIT. 
          ANOTHER IS THAT IT, UH, DESIGNATES THE, UH, TOWN ATTORNEY AS THE ONE WHO SETTLES, SETTLES CLAIMS. AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE RESOLUTIONS THAT COME TO THE TOWN BOARD TO SETTLE, SETTLE, SETTLE ISSUES. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS WHAT THAT GENERALLY GOES OVER. 
          AND THE COURTHOUSE WHERE WE HAVE THE TOWN PROSECUTOR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAKING, MAKING SOME NEGOTIATIONS, YOU KNOW, REGARDING PEOPLE PLEADING GUILTY, NOT PLEADING GUILTY. 
          UH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          AND THE, THE MAIN, THE MAIN THING I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IS THAT THIS WAS REALLY BILLED AS LAWS TO PREVENT DRAG RACING ON CENTRAL AVENUE AND OTHER MAJOR ROADS WHERE CARS ARE SPEEDING FROM ONE MUNICIPALITY INTO GREENBERG AND PERHAPS OUT OF GREENBERG INTO ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY. 
          BUT IT'S STILL NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT THIS IS ENFORCEABLE ON CENTRAL AVENUE THAT WE COULD FORFEIT VEHICLES THAT ARE DRAG RACING ON CENTRAL AVENUE. 
          UM, AND IF THAT'S TRUE, THEN WE WRITE SHOULD WRITE THAT INTO THE LAW AS THAT'S OUR OBJECTIVE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE. 
          SO IS THAT, IS THAT IN DOUBT? UM, IS TIM ON THAT, TIM ON LINE? UM, YEAH, SO THE FIRST THING I JUST WANNA MENTION IS, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE LAW WAS DRAFTED IS IT'S MODELED EXACTLY AFTER WHAT, UH, YONKERS AND, UM, AND WHITE PLAINS ADOPTED. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY WE STARTED OFF. 
          UM, THE REASON IT SAYS GREENBERG POLICE OFFICER, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE THAT WE CAN COMPEL A, A STATE POLICE OFFICER OR A COUNTY POLICE OFFICER, UM, TO, UM, TO WRITE THE, UM, THE, THE SUMMONS UNDER, UM, YOU KNOW, FOUR 60 OF THE TOWN LAW, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS, UH, WHICH IS THE UNLAWFUL SPEED, THEY WOULD DO IT UNDER THE V T L, THE STATE V T L 1182. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S DRAG RACING, BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A FORFEITURE PROVISION AND THE WAY IT'S WORDED, YOU KNOW, UM, ONLY A GREENBERG POLICE OFFICER, UM, COULD, COULD DO THAT. 
          SO, I MEAN, WE COULD CERTAINLY CHANGE AND, AND NOT SAY GREENBERG POLICE OFFICER, IT COULD BE ANY POLICE OFFICER, BUT SOME OF THE, UM, THE STATE OFFICERS MIGHT NOT EVEN BE AWARE OF OUR LAW IF THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CERTAINLY AUTHORIZE THEM TO, UM, TO WRITE IT UNDER THAT, UNDER THAT PROVISION. 
          NOW, WITH RESPECT TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY BEING THE PERSON WHO BRINGS THE ACTION, UM, YOU KNOW, I ENVISION THAT WOULD ALWAYS BE WITH THE CONSENT, YOU KNOW, OF THE TOWN BOARD, UM, WHO ACTUALLY MAKES THE FINAL DECISION. 
          I DON'T THINK A TOWN ATTORNEY IS GONNA SAY, I'M GONNA FORFEIT SOMEONE'S VEHICLE WITHOUT COMING TO THE TOWN BOARD AND LETTING THEM KNOW. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS IN THE OTHER, IN THE OTHER LAWS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT IT TO BE, THE TOWN BOARD MAKES THAT DECISION AS, YOU KNOW, THE FORFEIT SOMEONE'S VEHICLE AND TAKE IT TO SUPREME COURT, THAT'S FINE. 
          IF YOU WANT IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN COUNSEL OR THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, IT'S FINE TOO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S AN ADDITION THAT WAS MADE, IT SAYS THE TOWN ATTORNEY SHALL BE EMPOWERED TO COMPROMISE, SETTLE, OR ADJUST RIGHTS CLAIMS, DEMANDS OR CAUSES OF ACTION IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE TOWN ARISING UNDER THIS CHAPTER. 
          I JUST HAVEN'T FOUND THAT IN ANY OTHER SECTIONS OF OUR CODE. 
          UM, AND WE SHOULD JUST STANDARDIZE ON THE DEFINITION OF AN UNLAWFUL SKI CONTEST AND JUST KEEP REFERRING TO IT AS, AS YOU DO IN ONE OF THE LAWS. 
          BUT IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE IN BOTH. 
          BUT IS THIS ENFORCEABLE ON CENTRAL AVENUE? IS I GUESS THE MAIN, THE MAIN POINT? CAN WE, CAN, CAN THE TOWN EN EN ENFORCE THIS LAW ON CENTRAL AVENUE TO ADDRESS THE, THE, UH, DRAG RACING THAT'S OCCURRING ON CENTRAL AVENUE? YES. 
          THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WORDED, IT CAN BE ENFORCED, BUT A GREENBURG POLICE OFFICER WOULD HAVE TO BE THE ONE WHO ISSUES THE, UM, THE SUMMONS OR OFFENSE. 
          I MEAN, IF IT'S AN ARREST, OBVIOUSLY THEY'D HAVE TO TO WRITE IT AS WELL, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE IF WE WANT PEOPLE OTHER THAN GREENBURG POLICE OFFICERS TO BE AUTHORIZED TO DO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH WE CAN DO. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          IF YOU WERE TO FORFEITURE A CAR AND A 16 YEAR OLDER IS DRIVING IT, WHAT, WHAT'S IN PLACE FOR THAT? PAT, COULD YOU, COULD YOU LET THE BOARD FIRST? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          IT'S A WORK SESSION, NOT A PUBLIC HEARING , SO YOU, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          I'M TRYING NOT TO DO THAT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, UH, NOW I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. 
          UH, 
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THE, UH, ENFORCING IT ON CENTRAL AVENUE. 
          NO, I THINK, I THINK, UH, I THINK YOU HAD ADDRESSED, I THINK YOU HAD ADDRESSED THAT, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE DRAFTING. 
          HMM. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS PAT'S POINT BECAUSE SHE RAISED IT BEFORE. 
          SURE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK WHERE RACING DRAG RACING IS PERMITTED UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE FOR 16 TO 20 YEAR OLDS, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE IS A SPECIFIC SECTION UNDER 1182, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR THE FACT THAT IN SOME LOCALITIES AND, AND PROBABLY NOWHERE NEAR NEW YORK CITY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY RACING IS PERMITTED. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, FOR 16 AND 21 YEAR OLDS, PAT, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WANNA, YOU KNOW, GO TO AN ARCADE AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, TYPES OF ACTIVITIES THAT, THAT KIDS COULD ENGAGE IN. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A DANGEROUS ACTIVITY AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT, THAT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE POINT THAT I WAS, THAT I HAD, AND I FORGOT, BUT I CAME BACK, IS WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT HOW THERE SHOULD BE SOME INCREMENTAL, UM, DETERRENT WHERE IT'S NOT INITIALLY A FORFEIT AND, UH, OF THE, UH, THE VEHICLE. 
          I DON'T SEE THAT IN, IN THE DRAFT UNLESS IT WAS INTENDED THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE MODIFIED, WHERE THERE WOULD BE, UH, AN ESCALATING PENALTY LEADING UP TO FORFEITURE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SECOND OFFENSE OR THE THIRD OFFENSE. 
          IS THAT INTENDED? WELL, I THINK THAT THE, UM, I, I, I THINK THE, UM, I, I GUESS IT'S THE, UH, PROGRESSIVE PENALTY IS IN, IN THE UNLAWFUL SPEED IN, IN ITSELF. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST, WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE HAVE THE DISCRETION OF NOT FORFEITING THE VEHICLE, BUT THE FINE INITIALLY WOULD BE BETWEEN 150 THOU, $150 AND A THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          AND THE SECOND OFFENSE WOULD BE BETWEEN A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND $5,000. 
          BUT AT ANY STAGE, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY NOT TO FORFEIT THE VEHICLE. 
          THAT'S A TOTALLY DISCRETIONARY DETERMINATION THAT WOULD LIKELY INVOLVE TOWN BOARD, UM, CONSIDERATION. 
          AND AGAIN, THERE'S SO MANY HARDSHIP PROVISIONS. 
          IT COULD BE SOMEONE NEEDS THE, THE VEHICLE FOR WORK. 
          IT COULD BE THAT SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, WAS UNAWARE THAT THE VEHICLE WAS BEING USED FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS MEANT TO BE A DETERRENT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, UH, IN THE BUSINESS OF TRYING TO, UH, TO TAKE PEOPLE'S VEHICLES. 
          IT'S JUST A, UM, A DETERRENT TO STOP PEOPLE FROM, UM, DRAG RACING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, BUT SO SOMEBODY WOULD KEEP TRACK OF WHAT THE, WHAT OFFENSE THIS WAS. 
          WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER IF THAT WAS SOMEWHAT BUILT INTO THE LAW SO THAT, UH, IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO, UM, UH, OR DID YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT SO THAT DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE, YOU KNOW, 150 MILES AN HOUR ON CENTRAL AVENUE, YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY CHANCES ARE YOU GONNA GIVE THEM? YEAH, WE WANT, WELL, WE WANT THE DISCRETION. 
          I MEAN, IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S SO EGREGIOUS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN AFTER THE FIRST OFFENSE, WE MIGHT WANT TO PURSUE SOME SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, FORFEITURE. 
          AND AGAIN, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE DISCRETION OF A JUDGE WHO, YOU KNOW, IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA PERMIT THE TOWN TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S UNREASONABLE. 
          AND EVEN NOW WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, MULTIPLE TICKETS FOR, YOU KNOW, SPEEDING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU DISPOSE OF THAT CHARGE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, AN ABSTRACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE GETS FROM THE COURT TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT'S FAIR IN TERMS OF A PENALTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE, WE CAN TALK DURING, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR MEETINGS THIS WEEK AND SOUNDS GOOD. 
          MARK THIS OUT. 
          CAN I SPEAK NOW? WELL, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IT'S . 
          OKAY. 
          I'M, I KNOW THEY HAVE SOME OTHER MATTERS THAT THEY WANT TO GET TO. 
          NO, I'M GONNA SHUT UP. 
          I TOLD YOU, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A MEETING WITHOUT EVERYBODY SPEAKING, AND I, I, I'LL, I'LL AGREE TO THAT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT CHILDREN, PERIOD. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. 
          SO THE NEXT IS A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          YES. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION, I KNOW THERE'S SOME SAFETY TOPICS THAT YOU WANNA DISCUSS, PAUL, INVOLVING THE TASK, UM, UM, SOME PERSONNEL ITEMS INVOLVING PARTICULAR PEOPLE, AMONG OTHER THINGS THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          UH, THERE MIGHT BE A TOWN BOARD VOLUNTEER BOARD APPOINTMENT THAT YOU WANNA DISCUSS AS WELL. 
          CORRECT. 
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SECOND, ARE YOU MAKING THAT MOTION, BILL? I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION. 
          YEAH. 
          SECOND. 
          AYE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE AYE. 
          AND WE'RE NOT COMING BACK THIS EVENING. 
          IT'S OUR HOLIDAY. 
          PRESENT TO THE PRESENT. 
          YOU'LL NOT THAT YOU NEED FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          RIGHT.
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