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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS ONLINE VIA ZOOM AGENDA THURSDAY, November 19, 2020 – 4:00 P.M. ]
AND THE MEETING OF THE ZONING BOARD, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.WE HAVE SIX CASES THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR TODAY'S AGENDA.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE ZONING BOARD WILL HAVE OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 17TH.
AS USUAL, IF WE CANNOT COMPLETE HEARING ANY CASE TODAY, IT WILL BE ADJOURNED TO ANOTHER MEETING TO HOPEFULLY BE COMPLETED AT THAT TIME.
ALSO, AS IS USUAL TO SAVE TIME, WE WAIVE A READING OF THE PROPERTY LOCATION AND THE RELIEF SOUGHT FOR EACH CASE.
HOWEVER, THE REPORTER WILL INSERT THAT INFORMATION IN THE RECORD.
THIS INFORMATION ALSO APPEARS ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING OF TODAY'S CASES, THE BOARD WILL MEET IN A ZOOM ROOM TO DISCUSS THE CASES WE'VE HEARD TODAY.
EVERYONE IS PERMITTED TO LISTEN TO OUR DELIBERATIONS, BUT THE PUBLIC WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK OR PARTICIPATE AT THAT TIME.
AFTER OUR DELIBERATIONS, WE COME BACK TO THE FORMAL RECORD TO ANNOUNCE THE BOARD'S DECISION FROM THAT AND TO BE PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK TODAY, PLEASE CLEARLY STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, OR YOUR PROFESSIONAL AFFILIATION.
IF YOU'RE NOT THE NAMED APPLICANT, ALSO SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
WE HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY ON SOME OF THE CASES AT PRIOR MEETINGS.
ALL TESTIMONY IS ALREADY IN THE RECORD AND SHOULD NOT BE REPEATED.
AND TODAY'S FIRST CASE TO BE HEARD IS CASE 2014 LIGHT BRIDGE ACADEMY, 5 29 CENTRAL PARK AVENUE.
AND WHO DO WE HAVE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT? UH, CHAIR.
THIS IS, UH, MICHAEL KIRTI FROM HARRIS BEACH.
UM, AGAIN, UH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS MICHAEL KIRTI.
I REPRESENT 5 29 CENTRAL PARK AVENUE, L L C, IN THEIR APPLICATION FOR TWO AREA VARIANCES.
UH, AND, UM, AS THE BOARD IS AWARE OF 5 29, UH, CENTRAL PARK AVENUE PROPOSES TO, TO DEVELOP AND OPERATE A CHILDCARE, UH, DAYCARE CENTER UNDER THE FLAG OF LIGHTBRIDGE ACADEMY ON THE SITE.
THE VARIANCES WE ARE SEEKING ARE VARIANCE FROM TOWN CODE 2 85, UH, DASH 29.1 C FIVE FOR PROVIDING LESS THAN THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF REQUIRED NUMBER OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.
AND NUMBER TWO, A VARIANCE FROM TOWN CODE 2 85 DASH 29 1 C3 FOR PROVIDING LESS THAN THE MINIMUM DISTANCE REQUIRED, UH, FROM OFF STREET PARKING SPACES TO THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING ON THE SITE.
AS WE'VE, UH, PREVIOUSLY EXPLAINED TO THE BOARD, UM, ALTHOUGH THE LAKERIDGE ACADEMY IS DESIGNATED, UH, TO CARE FOR A TOTAL OF A MAXIMUM OF 159 ENROLLED CHILDREN, WE HAVE AGREED TO FREEZE OUR ENROLLMENT, UH, UNTIL THE FACILITY HAS REACHED TWO THIRDS CAPACITY, UH, SO THAT 5 29 C P A MAY CONDUCT A SUPPLEMENTARY TRAFFIC AND PARKING UTILIZATION STUDY.
THAT STUDY WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING BOARD AND ITS TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO DETERMINE THE ACTUAL CONDITIONS OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN PARKING ON THE SITE, AND WHETHER ANY FURTHER MITIGATION MEASURES MAY BE NEEDED TO BE IMPOSED PRIOR TO ALLOWING A GREATER ENROLLMENT BEYOND THE 105 CHILDREN.
BASED UPON COMMENTS, UH, FROM MEMBERS OF THE ZONING BOARD, UH, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TOWN STAFF, WE HAVE NOW DECIDED TO REDUCE THE PERCENTAGE OF VARIANCE THAT WE ARE SEEKING FOR THE NUMBER OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES FOR THE SITE.
THUS, UH, WE RESPECTFULLY AMEND OUR APPLICATION AND REQUEST THE ZONING BOARD GRANT AN AREA VARIANCE ONLY FROM THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES WHICH ARE REQUIRED FOR THE DAYCARE CENTER AT TWO THIRDS ENROLLMENT OR 105 CHILDREN PURSUANT TO TOWN CODE, UH, 2 85 29 DASH ONE C5.
AS DEMONSTRATED WITHIN THE PARKING CALCULATION NOTES, UH, THAT WE RECENTLY SUBMITTED AS PART OF OUR REVISED LAYOUT PLAN THAT, UM, OUR ENGINEER WILL PRESENT TO YOU SHORTLY, THE NUMBER OF OFF STREET PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR THE DAYCARE CENTER AT 105 CHILDREN ENROLLED AN ACCOUNTING FOR ALSO THE OFFICE SPACE, WHICH IS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BUILDING, IS 49 PARKING SPACES WITH THIS AMENDMENT.
THE APPLICATION THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO THE BOARD IS 45 PARKING SPACES FOR THE SITE, WHICH IS AN 8.16 DEVIATION FROM PARKING SPACES, WHICH ARE REQUIRED FROM THE TOWN CODE.
THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL DEPARTURE FROM OUR PREVIOUS APPLICATION, WHICH WAS APPROXIMATELY A 34%, UH, DEVIATION FROM THE TOWN CODE.
WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE THE FACILITY REACHES 105 CHILDREN, UH, ENROLLED, WE WILL AGAIN HAVE TO APPLY TO YOUR BOARD FOR AN ADDITIONAL AREA VARIANCE FOR THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING SPACES TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL CHILDREN TO BE ENROLLED ONCE WE MEET THE 105 CHILD, UH, THRESHOLD.
UM, THAT'S A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF OUR APPLICATION, UH, TODAY.
UM, I'LL JUST NOTE FOR, UH, THE RECORD, UM, THAT, UH, WE APPLIED TO THE ZONING BOARD ON JUNE THE 30TH OF 2020 FOR THE TWO AREA VARIANCES THAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER.
UH, AND WE'VE APPEARED BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD ON JULY THE
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16TH, 2020, OCTOBER 15TH, 2020, AND ALSO TONIGHT.UM, AND AGAIN, OUR APPLICATION IS FOR AN AREA VARIANCE FOR 105 CHILDREN ENROLLED, UM, WHICH, UH, IS A, UM, SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM OUR PREVIOUS, UH, APPLICATION AND ALSO A DEVIATION OF ONLY, UH, APPROXIMATELY 8% AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, JESSE LEY, OUR ENGINEER TO, UH, PROVIDE A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD.
UH, AS MICHAEL KIRTI SAID, MY NAME IS JESSE COAKLEY WITH MASER CONSULTING, THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.
I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN HERE, HOPEFULLY SUCCESSFULLY.
SO AS MR. KIRTI SAID, WE'VE BEEN BEFORE, UH, THE ZONING BOARD BEFORE, UM, MATERIALLY.
THE SITE PLAN, UH, HAS NOT CHANGED THAT MUCH SINCE WE WERE LAST HERE.
WE DID TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SOME SLIGHT LAYOUT REVISIONS, MOSTLY WITH RESPECT TO STRIPING FOR, UM, TRAFFIC CONTROL, UM, AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UM, THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE BOARD, BUT ALSO, UH, THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
THIS INCLUDES THE, UH, STRIP FULL STRIPING OF THE LOADING ZONE BEHIND THE BUILDING, UM, FLIPPING THE ORIENTATION OF SOME OF THESE, UH, HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES TO HAVE THE, UH, UM, AISLES ALIGNED BETTER.
UM, WE ADDED SOME STOP BARS TO THE TOP OF THE DRIVEWAY HERE, AND THEN ALSO AT THE BOTTOM WITH THE CROSSWALK AND, UH, A D A ACCESSIBLE RAMPS ON EACH SIDE.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK ALONG THE SOUTHERN END OF THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, AND THE BIGGEST CHANGE REALLY FROM THE, FROM THIS PLAN TO THE OTHER IS REALLY DEALS WITH THE PARKING CALCULATION.
UM, AS MR. KIRTI SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE AGREED TO REDUCE ENROLLMENT TO TWO THIRDS CAPACITY.
UM, AND SO WHEN YOU DO THAT CALCULATION, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE HERE, UM, FOR A DAYCARE CENTER WITH THAT MANY, UM, NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND THE OBVIOUSLY RATIO, CORRECT RATIO NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS, UM, THAT REQUIRES 43 SPACES.
UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING HAS SOME OFFICE SPACE, WHICH REQUIRES ANOTHER SIX.
SO A TOTAL OF 49 SPACES ARE REQUIRED, WHEREAS NOW, UH, WE ARE STILL PROPOSING 45 TOTAL SPACES.
SO THE VARIANCE REQUESTS THAT WE ARE SEEKING AT THIS POINT IS ONLY ABOUT AN 8.8%.
YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE, I THINK MICHAEL MAY HAVE SAID IT, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 8% IS THE DEGREE OF VARIANCE FOR THE PARKING.
WE HAVE PROVIDED TRAFFIC STUDIES TO DATE.
WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED, UM, PARKING STUDIES, UM, FROM OTHER DAYCARES.
WE'VE PUT ON TESTIMONY ABOUT THE IMPACTS THERE.
WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT EVEN WHEN WE REACH TWO THIRDS ENROLLMENT, WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING, AND WE, THE NUMBERS WILL BEAR OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH A, AN APPLICATION FOR THE FULL ENROLLMENT.
UM, BUT AS A RE REMINDER, THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING.
WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE HEIGHT.
THERE WILL BE SOME FACADE UPGRADES.
UM, WE ARE REMOVING PART OF THE ASPHALT IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY HERE, UM, INSTALLING PLAYGROUNDS, UM, SOME SAFETY FENCING, UM, AND RES STRIPING AND, AND, UM, REDOING THE PAVEMENT.
THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND THEN ALSO SOME LIGHTING.
WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR FULL SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
UM, BUT THE PARKING CALCULATION, UM, HAS BEEN REDUCED ON THIS APPLICATION.
AND MR. KIRTI SAID, I BELIEVE THE OTHER VARIANCE THAT WE ARE REQUESTING DEALS WITH THE, UM, MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR USE OR OFF STREET PARKING AREAS TO THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, SO THAT KIND OF HAPPENS IN TWO INSTANCES.
UM, BOTH IN THE EXISTING CASE ARE LESS THAN, UH, THE 10 FOOT REQUIRED, BUT PROVIDED WE DO HAVE PARKING SPACES ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE BUILDING, SO THAT SEPARATION IS ZERO, AND THEN THE PLAYGROUND IS RIGHT UP AGAINST THE BUILDING, UH, ON THE NORTHERN SIDE FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.
SO, UM, THAT IS, UH, THE SECOND VARIANCE AND THE, THE PARKING IS THE OTHER ONE.
SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH AN OVERVIEW OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
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THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'D BE HAPPY TO TO ADDRESS THEM.IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTED TO COMMENT IN THE AUDIENCE ON THIS MATTER? UH, MADAM CHAIR, I BELIEVE, UH, MR. BONIN SOUGHT TO COMMENT.
ON CHECK ON, NOT THAT, NOT TODAY, GARY.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE DO YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE ON UNMUTE AND, AND, AND DO SO WELL, CAN I CHANGE MY MIND? YES.
UH, THE PICTURE THERE OF THE CROSSWALK TO THE CORNER OF THE BUILDING, THE BARS ARE CORRECT, BUT THE BARS SHOULD BE PARALLEL TO THE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC.
I WILL BRING IT UP EVERY TIME.
IF YOU LOOK AT ANYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, THE BARS ARE PARALLEL TO THE CENTER LINE, SO THE DRIVER CAN SEE IT.
THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NUMEROUS DIFFERENT KINDS OF CROSSWALKS IS NOT RELEVANT.
WATCH TV, WATCH THE NEWSPAPERS.
THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT HAS ONLY BARS.
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS ONLY BARS.
THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS BARS OF THE CONTINENTAL, AND I'LL MAKE IT AN ISSUE IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY THAT THE BARS BE PARALLEL TO THE CENTER LINE, AND THAT'S THE ONE THE DRIVER CAN SEE.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? UH, MADAM CHAIR.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS.
SOMEONE, DANNY, I'M THE MEMBER.
IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE, SIR.
I'M THE MANAGING MEMBER OF THE PROPERTY IN FRONT 5 31 CENTRAL PARK AVENUE.
YEAH, UH, MY ATTORNEY IS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK, BUT SHE MAY HAVE BEEN DELAYED.
SO, UH, I'LL JUST TAKE OVER FROM HERE.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ON THE ENTRANCE OF THIS DRAWING HERE.
THERE'S A BUNCH OF BARS ON THE LEFT OF RIGHT OF IT.
THERE'S A SQUARE WHERE ALL THE SQUARES, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO.
AND THE ENTRANCE OF THE 5 29 PROPERTY, YOU HAVE THESE BLACK RECTANGLE SQUARES.
NOW YOU'VE GOT 2, 4, 6, 8, THEN IN THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE THESE SQUARES WITH A DIAMOND IN.
WHAT ARE THOSE ITEMS? ARE THEY PAINTED ON THE, IT'S ON THE CONCRETE CURB.
SO IT'S PAINTED ON THE CONCRETE CURB, YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, IT'S A SQUARE WITH A DIAMOND AND SOME CIRCLES ON IT, ON BOTH SIDES, ON THE 5 31 PROPERTY AND ON THE 5 29 PROPERTY, I THINK THOSE ARE THE RAMPS.
THE AADA A RAMPS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YES.
SO THEY'RE GONNA PUT A D A RAMPS ON BOTH SIDES? YES.
IS THAT EXISTING OR ARE THEY GONNA PROPOSE TO PUT THAT IN? THAT'S PROPOSED.
THAT WAS A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT BY THE D O T FOR THE, FOR THE DRIVEWAY.
AND THAT PROPERTY BELONG TO TOWN, OBVIOUSLY.
I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR THAT.
WAS THAT THE QUESTION? IS THIS, IS THIS THE PROPOSED CURB IS THE TOWN PROPERTY? UH, THAT'S, THIS IS GARRETT, UH, WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
THAT'S, UH, NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THE, THE PARKING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THE VARIANCE FROM 10 FEET TO ZERO.
CAN YOU POINT OUT WHICH A ON THE DRAWING? SURE THING.
SO THOSE ARE LOCATED, UM, ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE BUILDING HERE, WE HAVE SOME HEAD IN PARKING SPACES WHERE THE SPACES GO RIGHT UP TO THE BUILDING.
SO JUST THOSE THREE, FOUR SPOTS THERE? YES.
UH, THERE'S TWO COMMENTS I WANTED TO MAKE, AND I GUESS MY ATTORNEY WASN'T GONNA MAKE THEM.
THE NEW JERSEY STUDY THAT YOU GUYS HAD WAS FOUR YEARS OLD, AND THE DAY OF THE STUDY, THERE WAS NO INDICATION HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE AT SCHOOL THAT DAY.
SO I CAN, UH, I CAN ANSWER THAT.
UM, WE ACTUALLY PROVIDED ADDITIONAL, UH, LOCATIONS.
UM, I BELIEVE WE PROVIDED FOUR ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS, UM, WITH THE ENROLLMENTS, UM, OF THOSE FACILITIES, THE MAXIMUM ENROLLMENTS, UH, OF OTHER STUDIES THAT WE DID WITHIN NEW JERSEY, UM,
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THAT PRETTY MUCH SHOW THAT THAT CRANFORD STUDY HAD THE, THE HIGHEST DEMAND, WHICH WAS 32 SPACES.UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT EVERY OTHER STUDY, WE, EVERY OTHER FACILITY WE STUDIED, UH, WAS BELOW THE 32 SPACES THAT WE SAW AT THAT CRANFORD LOCATION, WHICH IS WHY WE IDENTIFIED THAT ONE AS BEING THE MOST CONSERVATIVE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE DID PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING DATA BASED ON OTHER FACILITIES THAT WE COUNTED.
SO YOU PROVIDED HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE AT THE LOCATION DAY OF THE STUDY.
WE, WE PROVIDED THE SQUARE FOOTAGES OF THOSE FACILITIES, UH, THE MAXIMUM ENROLLMENTS OF THOSE FACILITIES, UM, AND WHAT WE OBSERVED DURING THOSE COUNTS.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU OBSERVED THAT WE DID PARKING, UH, ASSESSMENTS AT THOSE LOCATIONS.
SO AGAIN, DID YOU INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT WERE AT THE LOCATION THE DAY OF THE STUDY? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS PART OF THE SUBMISSION.
SO HOW COULD THAT BE ACCURATE? UH, BECAUSE THE, SORRY, UH, I'LL JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS MICHAEL KIRTI.
WE'VE, UM, PROVIDED, UH, ALL THIS INFORMATION TO THE TOWN'S, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, MR. CANNING.
UM, HE'S BASICALLY AGREED WITH OUR CONCLUSIONS, UM, WITH REGARD TO, UM, THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE, UH, NUMBER OF PARKING.
UH, WE, WE DID PRE, UH, PRESENT TO THE PLANNING BOARD LAST NIGHT.
THE PLANNING BOARD DID CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEY ALSO, UH, RECOMMENDED, UH, THE, UM, OUR APPLICATION TO THE ZONING BOARD AGAIN, WHICH IS THE SECOND TIME THEY'VE MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION.
UM, I'LL JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT, UH, MR. ODOMO AND HIS LAWYER, UM, HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE ANY EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE, UH, UH, CONTESTING, UH, THE SUBMISSIONS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED.
AND, UH, WE THINK, UH, WE'VE, UM, UH, CERTAINLY MET OUR BURDEN, UM, AND CERTAINLY MET THE BURDEN IMPOSED BY THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT YOU GUYS SUBMITTED ON THE 17TH WAS FAULTY AND MISLEADING.
IT WAS AN ICY STORM ALL DAY LONG.
SCHOOLS WERE CLOSED, SCHOOL CLOSED, DELAYED, AND IT WAS DOCUMENTED.
SO THESE ARE TWO THINGS NOW THAT THIS TRAFFIC IS PROVIDED TO THE TOWN.
SO IT SEEMS KIND OF FAULT ME A STUDY SHOWING WHAT THE USE IS AND NOT DOCUMENTING HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE AT THE LOCATION OF DAY STUDY.
I SAW WHAT MR. UH, I'M, I'M GLAD MR. DIAM WAS ACTUALLY BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE MR. CANNING ADDRESSED THIS LAST NIGHT DURING THE PLANNING BOARD, AND HE INDICATED THAT, UM, YOU CAN TREAT A DAYCARE FACILITY THE SAME WAY YOU CAN TREAT A PRESCHOOL OR A K TO 12 SCHOOL.
UM, SO THAT KIND OF INFORMATION REALLY HAS NO RELEVANCE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING UP TO THIS COURT AS WELL.
WAS MR. CANNING AWARE OF THE TUITION? HE, HE SAID THAT YESTERDAY DURING, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR. DIMO, I DON'T THINK HE MENTIONED THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY ON THE 17TH.
YEAH, HE ACTUALLY, HE DID MENTION THAT.
UM, AND WHAT WE ALSO AGREED TO IS THAT THE, THE CALCULATIONS THAT WE PROVIDED FOR THE, THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS THAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE GENERATED BY THIS FACILITY ARE OVERLY CONSERVATIVE.
UH, SO THAT COUPLED WITH ANY PERCEIVED, UH, DECREASE IN THE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD THAT DAY WOULD LIKELY MAKE UP FOR THAT CONDITION, UH, AND THAT OUR RESULTS ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTABLE.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS GARRETT.
JUST TO POSE A QUICK QUESTION.
DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, MORE EFFICIENT FOR THE, UH, SPEAKER TO MAKE ALL THEIR COMMENTS AND THEN TO THE EXTENT THEY, THERE, THERE'S RESPONSES, UM, THAT ARE SOUGHT BY THE ZONING BOARD OR THE APPLICANT WANTS TO MAKE, WE CAN HAVE THOSE RESPONSES MADE? I WOULD AGREE, YES.
MR. DAMO, UH, IF YOU COULD JUST MAKE ALL YOUR STATEMENTS AND THEN, UH, WE'LL PROCEED.
THE TWO STATEMENTS OF, UH, THIS TRAFFIC STUDY IN NEW JERSEY WAS DONE WITHOUT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THERE AT THE LOCATION THE DAY OF THE STUDY.
IT WAS A FULL LOCATIONS IN ANOTHER STATE, DIFFERENT PROPERTY LAYOUTS, WHICH I THINK IS NOT RELEVANT TO THIS LOCATION.
TWO, THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE ON THE 17TH WAS MISLEADING BECAUSE THE ICY STORM ALL DAY LONG.
SO BOTH STUDIES FROM THE SAME, UH, CONSULTANT WERE, I THINK, MISLEADING.
NOW, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO RESPOND TO THESE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER? UH, CHAIR, I THINK WE HAVE RESPONDED TO THEM.
UM, I'LL JUST AGAIN REITERATE, UM, THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY YESTERDAY AT THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, WHEN MR. CANNING, UH, WHO IS THE TOWN'S CONSULTANT, UM, THEY WERE ADDRESSED AND,
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UM, YOU KNOW, AS A RESULT OF, UH, MR. CANNING BEING SATISFIED AND HIS RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING BOARD, THEY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MADE ANOTHER POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BOARD.IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? IT DOES NOT APPEAR, SO.
YOU ARE, NO, NOTHING FURTHER FROM THE AUDIENCE.
UH, IS THERE ANY BOARD MEMBER WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO THIS APPLICATION? NOT HEARING ANY REMARKS? UM, I WOULD MOVE ON NOW TO OUR NEXT CASE.
ON TODAY'S AGENDA, I HAD MY HANDS ON A SECOND AGO, WHICH IS CASE 2022, SAWMILL STONE AND MASON RESUPPLY PROPERTY AT 50 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, HASTINGS ON HUDSON.
AND DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT? YES, MADAM CHAIR.
I'M A PARTNER AT THE FIRM OF CU AND FADER, AND I'M HERE, HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, L A C, DEVELOPMENT, L L C M 40 MILL REALTY, L L C, WITH REGARD TO THE VARIANCES, UM, ENUMERATED IN OUR APPLICATION, YOU, YOU'D ASKED, UH, I WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD DID MAKE A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD SINCE THE LAST TIME WE WERE BEFORE YOU.
AND, UH, IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST PRESENTED BY THE BOARD, WE SUBMITTED A NOVEMBER 6TH, 2020 LETTER, UM, THAT ADDRESSED, UH, TWO ISSUES.
IT WAS TO ELABORATE WHY THE OVERALL PROJECT REQUIRES A LARGE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT VARIANCES.
AND THAT LETTER, AS I SAID, WAS SUBMITTED PRIMARILY.
THE ISSUE IS THAT THE, THE SITE IS EXTREMELY LONG AND NARROW, AND IN ORDER TO IMPROVE OVERALL VEHICLE CIRCULATION, THE ACQUISITION OF A, OF, A LOT TO THE SOUTH FACILITATES, UH, AN A SOUTHERLY DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE INTO THE SITE AND THE ABILITY FOR TRUCKS TO PULL THROUGH AND THEN BACK INTO THE, UH, THE SUPPLY AREAS, WHICH IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT THAN THEM BACKING IN OFF OF NINE A ITSELF AND, UH, AND MANEUVERING.
SO WE THINK THAT THIS WILL REDUCE THE EXTENT OF MANEUVERING AND THE EXTENT OF, UM, UH, VEHICLE BEEPING NOISES AS THE VEHICLES MANEUVER THROUGH THE SITE.
IT ALSO WILL PROVIDE PARKING, UH, SPACES, DESIGNATED PARKING SPACES, UH, EIGHT OF THEM WHERE, UM, THE, UH, YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT FOR THE TOWN, MR. CANNING, HAD INDICATED THAT THIS TYPE OF USE WOULD TYPICALLY REQUIRE FIVE, UH, PARKING SPACES.
ALTHOUGH THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE MORE, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES 13, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FROM THAT.
WE ALSO HAD THE BENEFIT OF MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AT THE SITE TO, TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION THAT THIS BOARD HAD ASKED, WHICH WAS WHETHER LANDSCAPING OR FENCING MIGHT IN SOME WAY, UH, MITIGATE AND SCREEN, UH, VIEWS FROM THE NEIGHBORS OF THE SITE.
UH, WHEN WE WERE, WHEN WE ATTENDED THAT MEETING, WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO THE NEIGHBORS AND TO THE TOWN FOR COORDINATING IT.
IT WAS, IT WAS QUITE CLEAR THAT THE 40 TO 50 FOOT GRADE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BACKYARD LEVELS OF THE UPPER PROPERTIES AND OUR PROPERTY, UM, MADE IT, AND IT WAS A ROCKY AREA, ALSO MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO PUT TREES OR, UM, FENCING IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE MEANINGFULLY BENEFICIAL.
IN FACT, MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS SEEM TO HAVE, UH, RAISED DECKS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE GRADE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BACK OF THEIR HOMES AND, UM, THEIR, THEIR REAR YARDS AS THEY SLOPE DOWN.
AND THAT, IN EFFECT, RAISES THE HEIGHT EVEN FURTHER FROM ANY, ANY EFFECTIVE SCREENING.
A FENCE, UH, ALONG THAT EDGE AT THE TOP OF THE RIDGE WOULDN'T BE VISIBLE AT, AT THE POINT OF A DECK, UM, FOR THOSE HOUSES.
SO, UM, WE DID, WE DID LOOK TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE PROPOSED WAS THAT WE, UH, ENFORCE AND, AND ADVISE TRUCKS DELIVERING SUPPLIES, UH, HOW TO MANAGE, UM, THEIR TIME AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T IDLE WHILE WAITING.
AND, UM, THAT THEY AND THE TIME VERY CLEARLY STATE THE TIME WHEN, UM, THE GATES WOULD BE AVAILABLE AND OPEN, WHICH WOULD BE NOT BEFORE 7:00 AM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND 9:00 AM ON SATURDAY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS POINT, OTHER THAN WHAT HAD ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED.
WE THINK WE'D PREVIOUSLY HAVE A BOARD, AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO GET A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
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IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS APPLICATION, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC? IS THERE ANYONE THAT SEEKS TO SPEAK IF YOU DO? UH, YES.UH, PHIL ANI AT 1 31 HEATH PLACE.
I WAS, UH, I SUBMITTED MATERIAL, UH, DURING THE LAST, UM, UH, MEETING I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND BECAUSE I WAS FLYING.
UM, I ALSO ATTENDED THE MEETING, UH, WITH THE OWNERS AND THE, UH, THEIR, UH, LEGAL, UH, REPRESENTATION THAT JUST SPOKE.
UM, AND WE SPOKE WITH GARRETT AT THE TIME, UH, THE ISSUE BEING NOISE AND, UH, UNSIGHTLINESS, UM, THE NOISE ISSUE.
UH, WE WERE DISCUSSING WITH GARRETT, GAR GARRETT, MAYBE DO SOME RESEARCH, UH, WITH REGARDS TO OFFERING, UH, HOUSES OR PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE LOT, SOME SORT OF, UH, SOUNDPROOFING FOR THEIR WINDOWS.
UH, AND, UH, GARRETT AT THE TIME SEEMED TO BE OPEN TO THAT, BUT I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, BASICALLY, UH, MOST OF OUR WINDOWS ARE DOUBLE PANE WINDOWS IN THE NORTHEAST.
IF THEY'RE MODERN HOUSES, UH, TRIPLE PANE WINDOWS WOULD OFFER MORE SOUND PROTECTION FROM THE NOISES.
AND LOOK, WE UNDERSTAND, UH, THEY HAVE A BUSINESS TO RUN AND WE HAVE A, A HOME TO LIVE IN.
SO, UH, THE TWO OF US, UH, I'M NOT DIRECTLY ADJACENT AND THIS WOULDN'T AFFECT ME IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, THE SOUNDPROOF, AND THESE WOULD BE JUST DIRECTLY ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
UM, THE TWO, UH, NEIGHBORS HAVE TO COEXIST.
SO I, I, I THINK THAT LOOKING INTO THAT, LOOKING INTO SOUNDPROOFING OF SOME SORT OR SETTING UP SOME SORT OF FUND FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE WINDOWS THAT FACE THE PROPERTY AND ARE AFFECTED BY THE, UH, 7:00 AM NOISE.
IT IS JUST A NOISY BUSINESS THAT, THAT GARRETT CAN ATTEST TO THAT AS HE WAS, UH, AT THE SITE.
THERE'S NOTHING YOU COULD DO ABOUT, IT'S A CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO, UH, SOME MORE.
COULD I, IF I MAY, I CAN ADDRESS THAT.
THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT HAD BEEN RAISED.
AND, UM, WE EVALUATED THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT EXPANDING THE BUSINESS FROM ITS CURRENT OPERATION.
IN FACT, THE IMPROVEMENT BY HAVING TRUCKS CIRCULATE, UM, FROM THE SOUTH, UH, THROUGH THE SITE, SHOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE OVERALL NOISE.
AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE SENSITIVE TO, WHAT THE NEIGHBORS, UH, HAVE, HAVE COMMENTED ABOUT, WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE SOURCE OF THE NOISE RATHER THAN FUND IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR HOMES.
WE DO HOPE THAT WE HAVE, WE WE'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND THEIR COMMUNICATIONS WITH US.
WE THINK COMMUNICATION IS A KEY COMPONENT IN MAKING SURE THAT IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT ARISE, WE CAN ADDRESS THEM RAPIDLY IF, AND, AND TRY AND ACCOMMODATE THEM.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, I WOULD LIKE GARRETT TO WEIGH IN SINCE HE WAS AT THE MEETING.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK, UH, TO THE SITE VISIT.
IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE, UM, WOULD WE LIKE TO SEE IF ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? YES.
MS. S STRALA, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR MIC AND FEEL FREE TO SPEAK.
UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I WAS ALSO AT THAT SITE VISIT AND, UM, I FELT LIKE THE APPLICANT WAS, WAS REALLY, UM, TRYING TO WORK WITH US AND BE A REALLY GOOD NEIGHBOR.
UM, AND ALL I WOULD ASK IS, UM, IF THE VARIANCE IS GRANTED, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY HOPE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD CONTINUE TO STILL BE A VERY GOOD NEIGHBOR, AND THAT THE WILLINGNESS TO TRY TO WORK WITH US AND BE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THIS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY AND THESE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES NEED TO COEXIST.
UM, I HOPE THAT NEIGHBORLINESS COULD CONTINUE.
'CAUSE, UM, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GAUGE A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT NOW WHAT THE IMPACT OF THEIR EXPANSION WOULD BE, UM, ON OUR, ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SOME OF WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO, THEY COULD DO WITH OR WITHOUT A VARIANCE, BUT SOME OF WHAT THEY WANNA DO, THEY DO NEED THESE VARIANCES.
SO, UM, ONCE THE TOWN GRANTS THE VARIANCES, I'M JUST HOPEFUL THAT THE APPLICANT CONTINUES TO BE, UM, AS WILLING TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR IN WORKING WITH US ON MINIMIZING ANY IMPACT OF WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THEY EXPAND.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE DOES NOT APPEAR, SO, OKAY.
GARRETT, DID YOU WANNA GIVE YOUR REMARKS? YEAH, SURE.
UM, I, I DID ATTEND THE SITE VISIT.
I, I ASSISTED IN COORDINATING THAT.
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RESIDENTS THAT ATTENDED, UH, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT MAKING TIME.UM, AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WAS STATED I, I, I THINK WAS ACCURATE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S AN INDUSTRIAL USE THERE, AND THE, THE, THE GRADES ARE SUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE DOES COME UP FROM THAT EXISTING BUSINESS.
UM, AND, AND IT DID SEEM LIKE, UH, NEW FENCING OR LANDSCAPING DID NOT SEEM PRACTICAL.
UH, WE DID DISCUSS THE IDEA OF THE POTENTIAL FOR WINDOWS, UM, IF THEY WERE TARGETED, UM, AT, AT A MASTER BEDROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE, AND, AND PHIL, UH, WHO SPOKE A MOMENT AGO DID SEND IN A LINK TO SOMETHING THAT HE THOUGHT WOULD BE, UH, LOGICAL, UM, IF, IF, IF IMPLEMENTED AND, UM, GAVE A ROUGH COST.
SO, UH, WHAT I DID WAS I DID FORWARD THAT TO THE APPLICANT.
UH, I, I DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, RENDER OPINION ON WHETHER THAT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE ZONING BOARD IS PART OF ITS, UH, DELIBERATION, UM, UH, DISCUSSIONS CAN HAVE.
UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT.
I, I DID FORWARD TO YVONNE PETRILLO, WHO I HOPED FORWARD THAT TO MR. NOLL.
UM, BUT THOSE WERE MY, UH, OBSERVATIONS.
ANYONE ELSE? CAN I SPEAK AS THE APPLICANT? HELLO? UH, YES, MADAM CHAIR.
THAT'S THE, UH, THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS THERE.
HI, HOW ARE YOU? YEAH, YOU'RE A, OF COURSE YOU CAN SPEAK.
SO WE WILL DEFINITELY TRY TO ACCOMMODATE OUR NEIGHBORS AS IT'S WHERE WE'RE ABOUT.
I CAN'T PROMISE YOU THAT I WOULD REPLACE, NO, HOLD ON.
CAN YOU START OVER AND SPELL YOUR NAME FOR ME, PLEASE? MY NAME IS LUIGI CASAL.
I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT, UH, 40 SAWMILL AND 50 SAWMILL.
TO RESPOND BACK TO, TO OUR NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY BEHIND US WHO JUST SPOKE ABOUT A COUPLE SECONDS AGO.
DEFINITELY HAVE OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION.
I BELIEVE I GAVE YOU MY BUSINESS CARD, MY CELL PHONE, MY PRO, MY GENERAL MANAGER'S NUMBER.
WE'LL ALWAYS TRY TO ACCOMMODATE YOU AS BEST AS WE CAN.
WE MUST UNDERSTAND WE'RE RUNNING A BUSINESS, WE'RE IN A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING, WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THIS WORK, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 10 YEARS.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CONCERNS.
I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU GO BUY ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY AND TRY TO DO IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR PROPERTY, ALL OF A SUDDEN THINGS START BECOMING A CAN OF WORMS. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DISRUPT YOU ANYMORE.
AND IF WE HAVE, WE WILL TRY OUR BEST TO TALK TO OUR DELIVERY DRIVERS, OUR CLIENTS, AND WORK IN A, IN A MANNER WHERE IT CAN LIMIT AS MUCH NOISE AS POSSIBLE.
BUT AGAIN, WE ARE IN A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY TO USE IT FOR THE USE THAT'S ALLOWED TO DONE.
AND ABOUT THE WINDOWS I WOULD ACCOMMODATE AS BEST AS I CAN.
BUT YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.
I CAN'T REPLACE 20 HOUSES WINDOWS JUST BECAUSE OF TRUCK DRIVES AROUND MY YARD.
LIKE, THAT'S NOT PRACTICAL TO ME.
UH, I HAVE ISSUES CONCERNING, I DROVE ALL THE RESIDENTS ON TOP OF ME HAVE, UH, ROOF LEADERS THAT ARE NOT CONNECTED TO A DRAINAGE SYSTEM, AND ALL THE WATER IS RUNNING DOWN THE, THE SLOPE INTO MY YARD EVERY DAY THAT I HAVE TO ADDRESS MAINTENANCE EVERY SINGLE DAY SO IT DOESN'T LEAK OUT INTO THE ROAD.
AND I BELIEVE IF YOU EVER LOOK IN THE WINTERTIME, UH, NINE A BECOMES A ICE SKATING RINK IN FRONT OF MY SHOP.
'CAUSE ALL THE ROOF LEADERS, UM, ALL THE WATER'S TRAVELING DOWN THAT STEEP SLOPE.
I'M NOT LOOKING TO TO, TO CAUSE ANY ISSUES FOR ANYONE.
AND I WOULD DEFINITELY WORK WITH YOU GUYS TO TRY TO LIMIT THE NOISE AS BEST AS I CAN, BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE COULD DO IF THERE'S A PRACTICAL QUOTE.
I MEAN, PHIL, IF YOU COME TO ME WITH A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE FIVE OR SIX WINDOWS AT THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND ME AND IT'S REASONABLE, I WOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER IT IF IT MAKES YOU GUYS HELPS YOUR SITUATION, YOUR LIVING.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS.
I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A BUSY STREET.
WITHOUT MY BUSINESS, MY BUSINESS MIGHT ADD A, A LITTLE BIT MORE NOISE, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT I COULD DO BESIDES TRYING MY BEST TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO RESPOND? FIRST, UM, MR. NOLL, ARE YOU SATISFIED OR DID YOU WANNA MAKE ANY OTHER REMARKS? NO, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, I'M GLAD THAT, UH, MR. CASAL UNDERSCORED HIS WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH NEIGHBORS AND HIS COMMITMENT TO DO THAT.
UM, THE, THE CHALLENGE OF REPLACING, UM,
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WINDOWS IS AS A PRECEDENT WHERE THE BUSINESS ISN'T EXPANDING.UM, I'D, I'D RATHER LEAVE THAT AS BETWEEN OUR CLIENT AND THE NEIGHBORS, UH, RATHER THAN HAVE THAT BE A PART OF ANY CONDITION IMPOSED BY THE ZONING BOARD, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, UM, THAT THAT, THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFICULT COMPONENT WHERE THE BUSINESS IS NOT EXPANDING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY, HEARING NO FURTHER COMMENTS, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT CASE ON TODAY'S AGENDA, WHICH IS CASE 20 20 23, DURGA TEMPLE OF WESTCHESTER PROPERTY AT 1880 SAW MILL RIVER ROAD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
AND IF I DON'T SPEAK TO YOU, UH, A VERY HAPPY HOLIDAY.
YOU ALSO, ALL RIGHT, WHO'S HERE FOR THE TEMPLE? GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE ZONING BOARD.
MAXIMILIAN MAHAL FROM THE FIRM IS THERE, AND SIMON ON BEHALF OF THE DJA TEMPLE OF WESTCHESTER, WE DID PREVIOUSLY PRESENT TO THE BOARD LAST MONTH, SO I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST TO AVOID ANY REDUNDANCIES HERE.
JUST GONNA QUICKLY SHARE MY SCREEN IN A MOMENT.
DO YOU GUYS SEE THE PHOTOS IN FRONT OF YOU? YES.
SO, JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, OUR CLIENT IS A CONTRACT EE FOR THE DILAPIDATED HOME AT 1880 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
INTENDING TO CONVERT THIS HOME INTO A HINDU TEMPLE.
UM, YOUR CODE REQUIRES A HUNDRED FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM ANY LOT LINE FOUR STREET FOR A PLACE OF WORSHIP.
WE ARE REQUESTING A FRONT YARD VARIANCE, UH, TO ALLOW FOR A 36.8 FOOT SETBACK OF THE STRUCTURE.
THIS IS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE ARE SETBACK 115 FEET FROM THE CURB OF THE SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, WE'RE ONLY SETBACK 36.8 FEET FROM THE FRONT YARD LOT LINE.
AND THIS IS BECAUSE THE D O T IN 1954 TOOK ITS RIGHT OF WAY AS A TAKINGS, UM, THUS REDUCING OUR FRONT YARD SETBACK, EVEN THOUGH OUR FRONT YARD TO THE ROAD REMAINS THE SAME.
AT THE LAST MEETING, I WENT THROUGH THE BALANCING FACTORS FOR AN AREA VARIANCE AND ALSO ARTICULATED THE ACCOMMODATIONS MADE UNDER NEW YORK AND FEDERAL LAW, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE TREATMENT OF RELIGIOUS LAND USES AND THE APPLICATION OF LOCAL ZONING LAW.
AND, UM, FOR THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCIES, UM, THIS APPLICATION WAS RENO AND COMES BACK AGAIN THIS EVENING BECAUSE A PREVIOUS SURVEY HAD SHOWN THE BUILDING BEING SET BACK 53.1 FEET FROM THE FRONT YARD LOT LINE.
BUT THAT WAS CORRECTED WITH AN UPDATED SURVEY THAT WAS OBTAINED AS PART OF THE CLOSING PROCESS.
WE ARE UNDERGOING SITE PLAN REVIEW AND FORTUNATELY YESTERDAY EVENING, THE PLANNING BOARD DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS FRONT YARD VARIANCE, UM, TO THE ZONING BOARD.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE PASSED ALONG TO THE ZONING BOARD BY DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AARON SCHMIDT.
UM, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THAT AND WE RETURN THIS EVENING TO THE ZONING BOARD TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A APPROVAL OF THIS FRONT YARD VARIANCE AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MIGHT HAVE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO ADDRESS THIS MATTER? ALL RIGHT.
UM, THEN WE WILL TAKE THE INFORMATION YOU'VE PROVIDED US NOW UNDER, UH, IN OUR DELIBERATIONS AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT OUR, THE OUTCOME IS.
AND THE NEXT CASE ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS CASE 2024.
JONATHAN, AND I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO PRONOUNCE THIS CORRECTLY, BUT I'LL DO THE BEST I CAN.
ANG AND Z CHANG, AND THAT'S FOR PROPERTY AT 19 TAMARACK LANE, AND WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS APPLICATION? HI, I AM STEPHANIE LINSKY, UH, WITH SMM ARCHITECTURE STUDIO.
UM, I'M HERE TO PRESENT FOR 19 TAMARACK TRAIL.
STEPHANIE, COULD YOU SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? SURE.
LINSKY IS M Y L E N SS K I THANK YOU.
ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE SCREEN? YES.
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OKAY.UH, SO HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THE HOUSE.
UH, WE'RE PROPOSING A ONE STORY ADDITION AT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE TO EXPAND THE KITCHEN AND DINING ROOM.
UH, AT THE LOCATION OF THAT EXISTING DECK THAT YOU SEE, UH, THE ADDITION WOULD BE RAISED FIVE FEET ABOVE GRADE ON PURE FOOTINGS.
UH, WE'RE WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO VARIANCES.
THE FIRST IS FOR THE ALLOWED GROSS FLOOR AREA.
UH, THE PROPOSED ADDITION WILL EXCEED THE ALLOWED GROSS FLOOR AREA BY 278 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THE LIVABLE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF THE HOUSE IS ACTUALLY MUCH LESS.
UM, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TO INCLUDE A 600 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE IN THAT NUMBER.
AND THE SECOND VARIANCE REQUESTED IS IN REGARDS TO THE REAR YARD SETBACK.
UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, THE DASH LINE SHOWS, SHOWS THE PROPOSED SETBACK BECAUSE THE BACKYARD, I MEAN THE BACK PROPERTY LINE IS ANGLED.
UM, IT RESULTS IN THE CORNER OF THE ADDITION GOING OVER THE ALLOWED REAR YARD SETBACK BY FIVE FOOT FIVE INCHES, WHICH IS THAT CORNER OF THE ADDITION 90 SQUARE FEET OF THE ADDITION.
THIS SHOWS THE, THE ADDITION AND, UM, THE DASH LINE REPRESENTS THAT REAR YARD SETBACK.
UH, THIS IS A, AN ELEVATION OF THE PROPOSED ADDITION AND THE BACK AND THE SIDE, UH, THE ADDITION HAS NO IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE BACK AND TO THE RIGHT ARE UNDEVELOPED WOODED AREAS.
UM, THE NEIGHBOR ON THE LEFT WOULD HAVE A VERY LIMITED VIEW AND THEY ACTUALLY SUBMITTED A STATEMENT SAYING THAT THEY HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS.
AND HERE'S, HERE'S THE VIEW FROM THAT DECK.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, FOOT TO THE LEFT, TO THE BACK, AND TO THE RIGHT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, UM, THE ADDITION HAS NO IMPACT ON ANYONE.
UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE BOARD WISH TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WANTS TO, UH, COMMENT ON THIS CASE? OKAY.
AND THE NEXT CASE ON THE AGENDA IS CASE 2025.
SYLVIA EMMER AND DANIEL MARILLO PROPERTY AT 1 0 2 EDGEMONT ROAD.
AND WHO IS HERE TO ADDRESS THAT CASE? CAROL, DO YOU SEE AN APPLICANT, UH, AVAILABLE FOR THAT MEETING? UH, HI, IT'S SYLVIA EMER.
UH, LEN, I SEE LEN BRANDES, OUR ARCHITECT WHO'S REPRESENTING US ON THE ZOOM, BUT I'M NOT HEARING YOU.
LEN AND I JUST TEXTED, I KNOW HE'S ON.
LEN, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SPEAK.
YEAH, I SEE THAT LEN IS ON, SO, OKAY.
SO, MR. BRANDIS, UM, ARE, ARE YOU PRESENT AND ACTIVE? IF NOT, UM, MA'AM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DESCRIBE WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO THERE? I HAVE ACCESS TO THE PLANS AND I CAN POP THEM UP, BUT, UM, OR WE CAN COME BACK AND TO THIS APPLICATION, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE ZONING BOARD, UM, AT A TIME THAT MR. BRANDIS, UH, RETURNS.
SO LEN IS BETTER EQUIPPED, BETTER, BUT I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
YES, LEN, WE SEE YOU AND HEAR YOU.
I JUST WANT TO SHOW SOME PHOTOGRAPHS.
THIS IS THE PHOTO AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
UH, THE AREA THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS THIS AREA OVER HERE, WHICH IS, HAS SOME ISSUES IN THE BUILDING.
I'LL SHOW YOU IN THE SIDE LATER.
UH, YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ON A SLIGHT SLOPE AND THERE'S SOME ISSUES.
UH, BASIC PLAN IS TO REMOVE THIS AREA, REBUILD THIS, AND PULL IT OUT A LITTLE BIT.
'CAUSE WE'RE VERY TIGHT IN TERMS OF ROOM ON THE ENTRANCE TO THE HOUSE, UH, IT'S VERY, THERE'S NO REAL PLACE TO HANG COATS, NO REAL MUDROOM OF ANY SORT.
AND THE MASTER BEDROOM, WHICH IS ABOVE, WE WANNA EXPAND IT.
ALSO, ONCE AGAIN, DOESN'T HAVE VERY MUCH IN CLOSETS.
SO EXTENSION THAT WE HAVE IS TO EXPAND IN THIS DIRECTION, UH, IN THAT AREA OVER THERE.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING, WE ONLY HAVE, UH, WITHIN ONE PARKING SPACE AND
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IT'S, UH, ONE LITTLE AREA HERE.AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET A PARKING SPACE ON THE SIDE HERE AS WELL.
HERE'S LOOKING UP THE STREET RIGHT NOW.
UH, FROM THAT, AND YOU CAN SEE OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, WE'RE VERY FAR FROM THE NEIGHBOR OVER HERE, SO COMING ON THIS CORNER DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT THEM VERY MUCH.
UH, THE GRADE WOULD BE SLOPING DOWN.
THE HOUSE IS BUILT INTO A HILL AND HAVING, BEING BUILT INTO A HILL, IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE BACK AREA OF THE HOUSE, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS UP A FULL STORY ABOVE THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
AND SO IN TERMS OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, WE'RE NOT REALLY ADDING VERY MUCH.
I HAD SPOKEN TO ANTHONY ELLI ABOUT IT, AND UH, WE HAD DECIDED ON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE LATEST PLAN, UH, THAT I SENT TO HIM LAST WEEK, UH, WHERE WE, UH, REMOVE THE STEPS THAT WERE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN A SECOND.
THIS IS THE ENTRY, THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS. WE HAVE EXISTING STEPS IN, UH, GOING HERE FROM THE STREET.
AND OUR EXTENSION IS JUST COMING OUT A LITTLE BIT OVER HERE.
IT'S 110 SQUARE FEET ADDITIONAL FOOTPRINTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE SETBACK ON THE SIDE HERE.
UH, IT'S NOT AS FAR OUT AS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE DIS THE SETBACK MINIMUM SETBACK THAT WE HAVE HERE.
THE HOUSE IS EXISTING NON-CONFORMING AND VERY TIGHT.
UH, HERE'S GOING DOWN, DOWN THE, UH, LEFT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
THIS IS OUR NEIGHBOR DOWN BELOW AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN, BUT WE ARE DOING NOTHING, NO WORK IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AT ALL ON THE LOWER LEVEL.
I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND IF THEY HAVE CONCERN ABOUT, UH, WATER ISSUES, BUT, UH, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT WILL AFFECT THEIR WATER ISSUES.
UH, THIS IS THE RIGHT SIDE, THE BACK LOWER AREA OF THE HOUSE.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT WORKING BACK HERE.
UH, OUR AREA THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS UP ON THE TOP LEVEL FACING BY THE STREET UP ON EDGEMONT ROAD.
UH, SO THERE SHOULD BE NO EFFECT OVER HERE AS WELL IN TERMS OF WATER ISSUES OR ANY DAMAGES TO THE NEIGHBOR.
SO JUST WANTED TO START WITH THAT.
AND I WANTED TO ACTUALLY BRING BACK UP THE, UH, PLAN, THE, UH, LATEST PLAN.
LET ME PULL THAT UP AND I'LL MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIGGER.
YOU STILL CAN SEE MY SCREEN, I HOPE.
OKAY, I'M JUST GONNA PULL THIS OVER HERE.
AND, UH, WHAT WE ARE DOING THE EXISTING RIGHT NOW IS OVER HERE, THIS WALKWAY ON STEPS.
UH, AFTER SPEAKING WITH ANTHONY, WE DECIDED TO TAKE THIS WALKWAY OUT.
WE HAD AN ORIGINAL WALKWAY COMING ACROSS HERE.
UH, THEN WE DON'T SEE THE PLANS, WE STILL SEE THE PICTURE OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
I HAVE IT UP ON MY COMPUTER TOO IF YOU NEED IT TO.
CAN YOU SEE THAT NOW? ARE WE SHARING AGAIN? YEP.
UH, WE ORIGINALLY ON THE PLAN THAT WE FIRST SUBMITTED HAD A WALKWAY GOING ACROSS TO CONNECT INTO THE NEW ENTRY OVER HERE.
UH, THIS IS THE AREA THAT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE ADDING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE OVER HERE.
IT'S AN ADDITIONAL 109 SQUARE FEET TOTAL, UH, OVER HERE AND TWO STORIES.
UH, SO IT'S ADDING JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THE F A R OF THE BUILDING.
UH, WE'LL BE REMOVING ALL THE SIDEWALKS.
SO THE NET DISTANCE DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE ADDITION HERE AND THE WALKWAY COMING OUT IS ONLY 16 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE'RE NOT ADDING VERY MUCH OVER THERE.
THIS IS A SIDE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO ADD A WALK, A DRIVEWAY OVER HERE JUST TO BE ABLE TO PUT A, A SMALL CAR HERE RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE CAN BARELY GET OUR CAR IN OVER HERE.
UH, IT BARELY GETS INTO THE GARAGE AND THAT'S A PRIUS.
SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LARGE CARS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY SMALL CARS.
UH, THIS IS ALSO SLOPING OUT AND TOWARDS THE STREET, SO THERE WOULD BE NO WATER GOING TO THE BACK.
THERE'S THE RETAINING WALL, EXCUSE ME, THE RETAINING WALL BACK HERE AND RETAINING WALLS BACK HERE.
AND THAT GOES DOWN THAT WHOLE LEVEL.
SO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE IS NOT GONNA RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS OR WATER.
WE'RE NOT AFFECTING THEM AT ALL IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
I SAID, ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS ALL GOING SLIPPING DOWNHILL.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS.
UH, THE HOUSE ITSELF IS EXISTING NON-CONFORMING AS NOTED ON THE, THE, UH, SCHEDULES HERE.
IN TERMS OF THE, UH, FRONT YARD SETBACK, IT'S EXISTING AS 10.9.
UH, THE NEW ONE IS, UH, 12 FEET AWAY, SO WE'RE NOT COMING AS CLOSE TO THE FRONTLINE AS THE EXISTING FRONTLINE RIGHT NOW.
THE SIDE YARDS EXIST RIGHT NOW IS TEN TWO AND 6.2.
UH, WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, EIGHT AND EIGHT OR TOTAL OF 16.
UH, WE CAN, WE'RE NOT RE REACHING THAT RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE IT'S, UH, 16.2 AND ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT.
THIS IS EXISTING NON-CONFORMING HOUSE AND THE REAR OF THE HOUSE WE'RE NOT TOUCHING AT ALL.
UH, THE EXISTING RIGHT NOW, UH, IS NINE FEET TO THE EXISTING, UH, SETBACK.
THERE WAS A VARIANCE GIVEN PREVIOUSLY FOR THIS HOUSE, BY THE WAY, FOR A RAISED WOOD,
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UH, DECK AREA.I SUBMITTED THAT DOCUMENTS TO YOU, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT.
AND THAT WAS GIVEN AND NOTED THAT THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO HAVE ANY AREA TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO USE THEIR PROPERTY.
IT WAS BUILT IN 1920, SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
AND F A R UH, ONCE AGAIN, UH, A BUILDABLE LOT AREA IS, UH, 31 99.
I CAN BLOW THAT UP A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU.
SO I MEAN, WHAT THE ALLOWABLE IS IS 1399 AND WE'RE WAY OVER THAT RIGHT NOW.
UH, BUT THAT'S THE EXISTING SITUATION THAT WE HAVE NOW.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE GOING OVER ONLY ADDING 109 SQUARE FEET TOTAL TO THE PROPERTY IN TERMS OF THE HOUSE AND 210 TOTAL WITH THE WHOLE PROPERTY BACK AND FORTH ON BOTH LEVELS.
UH, IMPERVIOUS LOTS, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S 2160 IS EXISTING.
UH, WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED UP TO 1399.
SO ONCE AGAIN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ADDING SO MUCH, IT'S JUST THAT THE HOUSE IS SO NON-CONFORMING AND THE FRONT AREA THAT WE'RE ADDING IS REALLY IMPORTANT AREA FOR THE HOUSE ITSELF, UH, TO BE ABLE TO WORK THE HOUSE.
UH, I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY SHOW YOU THE PLAN OF THE HOUSE.
UH, I CAN GET BACK ONTO MY FILES HERE.
SORRY, WHERE WAS THAT? MURRAY, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS? I'M SORRY.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR MY, UH, FOLDER HERE.
YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE MAIN FOLDER.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO TO THE MAIN FOLDER.
IT SEEMS TO HAVE LOST THAT FOLDER THERE.
LEMME SEE IF I CAN INTERIOR DRAWINGS.
NOW, WE DID GO BEFORE THE HISTORIC BOARD AND THEY HAD NO ISSUES WITH OUR BUILDING SINCE WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP IT AS, LEMME TRY SHARE.
OKAY, CAN EVERYBODY SEE THE DRAWINGS NOW? CAN YOU SEE MY DRAWINGS? HELLO? YEAH, WE JUST SEE, WE DON'T ACTUALLY SEE THE DRAWINGS.
I THINK, UM, MAYBE MINIMIZE IT A LITTLE BIT.
I'LL TRY NEW SHARING THIS ONE.
OKAY, HOW ABOUT THAT? YEP, THAT'S IT.
AND SO WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT THE EXISTING, UH, FIRST FLOOR RIGHT NOW, I'M GONNA MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIGGER FOR EVERYBODY.
THIS IS A MAJOR AREAS IS THAT THE EXISTING FIRST FLOOR HAS A TINY LITTLE ENTRY.
THERE IS NO PLACE, THERE'S A TINY CLOSET, A POWDER ROOM THAT CUTS INTO THE GARAGE.
THIS, SO THE GARAGE IS BASICALLY UNUSABLE WITH THIS, UH, POWDER ROOM BEING IN HERE AND A VERY SMALL KITCHEN.
UH, IT REALLY JUST DOESN'T MEET, UH, NORMAL NEEDS OF TODAY'S, UH, HOUSES AND GET DOWN TO THE PROPOSAL.
THE BIG PART OF THE PROPOSAL IS THAT WE STILL HAVE OUR ENTRY HERE, BUT NOW I CAN CLOSE THIS UP, MAKE THE GARAGE USABLE AGAIN.
ONCE AGAIN, IT'S ONLY NINE FOOT 10, SO IT'S VERY TIGHT AS IS.
BUT I GET A REAL CLOSET OVER HERE.
I CREATE A MUD ROOM WITH A NEW, UH, POWDER ROOM AND A PANTRY AND MOVE THE KITCHEN TO THIS AREA OVER HERE AND HAVE MY DINING AREA OVER HERE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THIS HOUSE TO MAKE IT MORE OF A MODERN HOUSE, UH, WITH VERY MINIMAL ADDITION, WHICH IS THIS ONE SMALL SECTION RIGHT HERE.
AND SAME THING GOES ON THE SECOND FLOOR WHERE WE'RE JUST ADDING TO THE, UH, FLOOR LEVEL ON THE MASTER BEDROOM.
SO NOW WITH THE MASTER BEDROOM, I CREATED A BIGGER SPACE, A LARGER CLOSETS, AND A LITTLE BIT BETTER BATHROOM IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT UP HERE, BUT WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM.
IT'S MOSTLY THE FIRST FLOOR BECOMES VERY CRITICAL IN TERMS OF USE OF THE HOUSE.
UH, WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP WITH THE HOUSE, THE EXISTING FRONT ELEVATION AND HAS OUR PROPOSED NEW ELEVATION.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP SOMEWHAT IN FAVOR WITH IT.
AND THE, UH, HISTORIC BOARD DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT AND GIVE, GIVE US APPROVAL RIGHT AWAY, UH, SIDE ELEVATIONS ALSO, ONCE AGAIN, UH, WITH KEEPING AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITHIN THE AREA AND THE CONTEXT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
WELL, THAT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS MATTER? ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON THIS MATTER? UH, MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD NOTE THAT, UH, THERE WAS, UM, DOCUMENTATION SENT IN FROM THE APPLICANT.
UH, IT WAS A LETTER FROM RESIDENCE, UH, COMMENTING ON THE APPLICATION.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO READ THAT
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OR, UM, UM, BUT YOU DO HAVE THAT ZONING? WE HAVE THOSE LETTERS, YES.I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD.
UM, AS I SAID, I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THE BACK, UH, REALLY DOWNHILL, BUT IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT AFFECTING THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AT ALL IN TERMS OF WATER AND PERVIOUS SURFACE OR ANYTHING IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE WHATSOEVER.
AND IT'S JUST A VERY SMALL MINOR ADDITION IN THE FRONT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN A PLACE TO KEEP A CAR, UH, ON THE STREET.
WHEN, WHEN DID YOU PURCHASE THE PROPERTY? UH, HOW LONG HAVE YOU ON THE PROPERTY? UH, HI, ARE YOU ASKING ME? SYLVIA EMMER, E M M E R LETTER FROM RESIDENCE? UH, YES.
ON THE APPLICATION WE PURCHASED.
I'M SORRY, LENA, ARE YOU RESPONDING? UH, YOU ARE.
UH, WE, UH, MOVED IN ALMOST EXACTLY 16 YEARS AGO.
UH, NOVEMBER 20, UH, UH, 2006.
THE TWO LETTERS THAT, UM, I WAS REFERENCING, I BELIEVE WERE LETTERS IN SUPPORT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, I SEE, UH, MR. GREG MILLER, UH, WHO HAD JUST JOINED AND I BELIEVE IT WAS THIS APPLICATION THAT HE HAD INTEREST IN.
SO, UM, SIR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, JUST INVITE YOU TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
UH, WE LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AT, UH, 74 ARDSLEY ROAD.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ACTUALLY SAY I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE.
UM, ANYTHING THAT CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE THE, UH, THE OLD STRUCTURES AND, AND MAKE THEM MORE USABLE AND BETTER IS A GOOD THING.
AND BEING ABLE TO ENLARGE A GARAGE OR MAKE IT USABLE SO THAT CARS CAN BE OFF THE STREET IS GREAT.
UM, I JUST, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, YES, MADAM CHAIR.
LEONARD? YES, IT'S, IT'S ANTHONY FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
COULD YOU JUST PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH THE REVISED COVERAGE? THE IMPERIOUS COVERAGE AFTER YOU DEDUCTED THE, UH, THE WALKWAY AREA, SO THEY HAVE THAT NUMBER? OKAY.
THE REVISED COVERAGE IS, ACTUALLY, I HAD IT ON THAT DRAWING I HAD UP THERE BEFORE.
UH, THE PROPOSED IMPERVIOUS SERVICE IS 2347, 2,347 SQUARE FEET.
NO, I'M LOOKING FOR THE PERCENTAGE.
ORIGINAL VARIANCE WAS FOR 7.3, BUT YOU MADE THAT SMALL
WELL, WE ONLY HAVE 16 SQUARE FEET, UH, ADDITIONAL ON THE, ON THE ADDITION IN TERMS OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THERE.
SO IT'S ONLY 16 SQUARE FEET THAT WE'RE ADDING RIGHT NOW.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA TAKE IT DOWN THE DECIMAL POINT.
WHAT WAS THE DATE, UM, THAT, THAT THE, THE LAST PLAN WAS RECEIVED? WOULD YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE IT STAMPED ON THE PLAN YOU HAVE THERE? UH, BELIEVE THAT WAS ON THE, UH, SEVENTH.
I BELIEVE IT WAS NOVEMBER 9TH.
YEAH, IT WAS THE MONDAY BEFORE LAST.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, THIS IS SYLVIA EMMER, E M M E R.
I WANTED TO, UH, JUST REITERATE, UH, WHAT LEN SHARED WITH REGARDS TO THE ENTRANCE.
IF YOU, YOU CAN ALL IMAGINE A FAMILY OF FOUR COMING INTO A SPACE WITH, UH, BACKPACKS.
I HAVE TWO KIDS, UH, BACKPACKS AND SHOES AND COATS AND, UH, FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, STROLLERS, BIG JOGGING STROLLERS, SMALL UMBRELLA STROLLERS.
AND IT'S, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN TOUGH.
UH, I WISH WE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS LONG, LONG AGO.
I, AS I MENTIONED, SOMEBODY ASKED ME, HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN THERE? WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 14 YEARS.
ACTUALLY, WE, WE CAME BEFORE OUR, OUR FIRST ARRIVED, OUR FIRST DAUGHTER ARRIVED.
AND SO AT, WE INCREASINGLY, INCREASINGLY HAD A HARDER AND HARDER TIME AS WE WAS THE TWO OF US, AND THEN THE THREE OF US, AND THEN THE FOUR OF US TRYING TO GET INTO, UM, THE HOUSE WITH BOOTS AND BACKPACKS AND, AND I, AS I MENTIONED, STROLLERS.
SO, UM, WHAT LEN HAS PROPOSED WOULD BE SUCH A GREAT IMPROVEMENT TO, UM, JUST
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ACTUALLY SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE COMING INTO THE HOUSE.AND THAT'S JUST THE FOUR OF US, LET ALONE WHEN WE HAVE GUESTS OVER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT ALL, OR QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR LAST CASE OF TODAY, WHICH IS CASE 2026 EXTRA PHOTOS.
REEM KHAN PROPERTY AT SIX CARLISLE PLACE.
UH, HI, IT'S, UH, LEN BRANDES.
REEN, I SEE HER NAME COMING UP.
UH, I'D LIKE TO SHARE THE SCREEN IF I CAN.
PLEASE DO, UH, IT'S GOT, UH, CHANGE, GOT SWITCH HATS NOW.
UH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN? CAN YOU SEE THE, UH, PHOTOGRAPHS? YES, SURE.
SORRY, I'M SWITCHING OVER QUICKLY.
UH, THIS IS THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS IS A, A VERY OLD HOUSE THAT HAD MULTIPLE AND MULTIPLE ADDITIONS PUT ONTO IT, UH, OVER THE YEARS.
IT'S ORIGINALLY FROM THE EIGHTH, MID 18 HUNDREDS.
UH, THE FARM HAD THE ORIGINAL FARMHOUSE AND THEN HAD ADDITIONS PUT ON AND ADDITIONS ON TOP.
THIS GARAGE IS NO LONGER A GARAGE.
IT WAS CONVERTED INTO A, UH, A DEN AREA, A ROOM.
UH, SO WE HAVE NO LONGER HAVE A GARAGE.
IT'S BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.
UH, THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE COMING AROUND.
THIS IS ON THE CORNER OF CARLISLE AND WE'RE COMING UP AND AROUND THE HOUSE ON A BLOCK, AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THE, IN THE BACKGROUND.
UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING FOR A VARIANCE.
THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY, AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR NEIGHBOR, UH, THERE'S VERY FEW FEET BETWEEN US NOW, AND WE WE'RE GONNA GET A, A DRIVEWAY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY USE, UH, UH, WHICH WE WANT TO GET TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE IS THE IDEA.
SO THIS IS WHERE THE DRIVEWAY ENDS RIGHT NOW IN ORDER TO GET AROUND THE HOUSE.
THE ONLY PLACE IS ALONGSIDE THE FENCE LIKE IT IS NOW.
AND LIKE WE WANT TO CONTINUE AND WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING AN ADDITION IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE OVER HERE.
AND THEREFORE WE NEED A VARIANCE JUST FOR THE PARKING AREA.
UH, THIS IS THE BACK OF THE BACKYARD OF THE HOUSE AS WELL.
CAN I HAVE TO GO BACK INTO, UH, MY OTHER FILES.
BY THE WAY, LYNN, I HAVE A, UH, A LETTER FROM MY NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBOR WHO'S, UM, YOU KNOW WHO'S RIGHT, ABUTTING ME, THE HOUSE THAT YOU SHOWED AND MM-HMM.
THEY, THEY PRETTY MUCH WROTE A LETTER.
CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING ON THE RECORD.
I'M THE OWNER OF SIX CARLISLE PLACE.
SO MY NEIGHBORS, THE JEAN AND DAVID DUKA.
I JUST, UH, EMAILED A COPY OF THE LETTER TO CAROL WALKER.
UM, AND I JUST, UH, I DID FORWARD IT OKAY.
TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND GARRETT.
SO WHY WE HAVE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
I WILL GET THIS UP IN RUNNING IN ONE MINUTE.
I JUST WANNA GET THE PLANS OUT AND I'M A LITTLE TROUBLE GETTING THE PLANS HERE FOR SOME REASON.
I'LL GET THE PLANS UP IN A SECOND WHERE MY AND I WILL READ THE LETTER WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT.
I HOPE SOLEN MY FRIENDS, TELL ME THAT YOU LOOK LIKE RICHARD DREYFUSS.
I THOUGHT YOU'D GET A KICK OUTTA THAT.
HOW DO I GET INTO THE REST HERE? YOU'VE GOT A CAREER IN HOLLYWOOD.
REMEMBER ALL OF THIS IS GOING ON THE RECORD.
UH, NO, I HAD A PART I DON'T WANT.
UH, CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN NOW? HAVE THE DRAWINGS UP? YES.
SO THE EXISTING HOUSE IS THE SHADED AREA OVER HERE AND THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY'S HERE.
AND WE WANNA EXTEND THE DRIVEWAY OVER HERE SO WE CAN PUT IN A TWO CAR GARAGE AND AN ADDITION
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ON THE HOUSE OVER HERE.UH, THERE'S AN EXISTING POOL, UH, THAT IS ALL FENCED IN AND PROTECTED RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
I BELIEVE IT WAS THERE WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
AM I CORRECT THAT TIME? MM-HMM.
AND SO THE ADDITION WILL CONNECT INTO THE EXISTING HOUSE AND ON BOTH FLOORS, THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND FLOOR, AND CREATE MORE SPACE FOR THEM TO USE WITHIN THE HOUSE ITSELF.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE HOUSE HAS A SMALL FOOTPRINT.
I'M GONNA LOAD THIS UP JUST A LITTLE BIT AGAIN.
AND THE EXISTING HOUSE, ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S TWO CAR GARAGE THAT APPEARS IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, SO IT'S VERY CLEVERLY HIDDEN.
AND IT'S NOW A STUDY AND THERE'S A LAUNDRY CONNECTED TO IT, WHICH LEADS TO A KITCHEN, A SMALL ENTRYWAY, A HALLWAY, AND, UH, GOES INTO A FAMILY ROOM OVER HERE.
UH, THE PROPOSAL KEEPS THE MAIN HOUSE ITSELF INTACT, EXCEPT THAT WE'RE CONNECTING AT THE FRONT END OVER HERE.
WE CAN ADD A POWDER ROOM NOW FOR PEOPLE TO USE.
THE GUESTS CAN USE THAT, UH, AN ENTRY FROM THE MUD ROOM INTO THE FAMILY ROOM OVER HERE.
AND ALSO TO CREATE AN OUTSIDE AREA, WHICH WILL BE AN OPEN AREA FOR LIKE A BAR AREA FOR, UH, GUESTS TO COME AT THE POOL ITSELF.
THIS WILL CLOSE DOWN DURING THE WINTER MONTHS.
SO WE CAN ACTUALLY STILL HAVE A WALKTHROUGH AND HAVE A, A GUEST ROOM AND SEASONAL CABANA OVER HERE.
WE'LL HAVE A FULL BATH OVER HERE, HERE AREA WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO GET A SMALL GARAGE.
AND IT'S NOT A LARGE GARAGE, IT'S JUST A ONE CAR GARAGE OVER HERE, OR AT LEAST WE GET ONE CAR IN AND WE GET THIS CARS OFF THE STREET AREA.
AND THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF OUR DRAWINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT VARIANCE.
SO WE CAN DO THE PARKING THE SECOND FLOOR RIGHT NOW, WHICH HAS SOME BEDROOMS UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
BRING THIS UP AGAIN, UH, BEDROOM'S OVER HERE.
UH, THE SMALLER BEDROOMS OVER HERE, UH, THERE'S A, UH, MASTER BATHROOM AREA.
NOW THESE ARE ON DIFFERENT LEVELS.
IF YOU NOTICE THERE'S SOME STAIRS GOING DOWN.
SO IT'S A FUNKY LITTLE HOUSE, WHICH IS KIND OF FUN.
SO WITH OUR ADDITION, WE ARE MAINTAINING THAT AREA OVER HERE AND THEN CREATING A HALLWAY THAT'LL GET US INTO OUR ART ROOM.
SO WE HAVE A STUDIO OVER HERE, AND, UH, A NEW BEDROOM SUITE, WHICH HAS A COVERED PORCH LOOKING OUT OVER THE POOL AREA WITH ITS OWN BATHROOM AND CLOSETS.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A VERY LARGE ADDITION, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SMALL.
UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY WELL WITHIN RIGHTS IN TERMS OF ZONING AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
THE ONLY ISSUE IS THE, ONCE AGAIN, THE, UH, THE DRIVEWAY ITSELF.
AND WE'RE BACK TO THE DRIVEWAY.
SO, SO WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE ISSUE THAT WE DO NEED.
THE ONLY WAY TO GET BACK TO THIS SIDE OF THE HOUSE IS OVER HERE.
OVER HERE IS VERY STEEP SLOPES, AS WE SAW IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
SO YOU REALLY CAN'T GET TO THE HOUSE VERY WELL FROM HERE TO PARK AND OR EXTEND OVER HERE.
THIS IS THE NATURAL ENTRANCE TO THE HOUSE.
UH, THIS IS A VERY STEEP ENTRANCE FROM THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD.
SO THE ONLY REALLY WAY IS TO GO WHERE THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IS AND PULL IT BACK OVER TO HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YEAH.
HOW LONG DID YOU, HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THIS HOUSE? UM, IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS.
UH, WERE YOU THE ONE WHO CONVERTED THE GARAGE TO LIVING SPACE? NO, EVERYTHING WAS DONE BEFORE.
I'VE ACTUALLY DONE NOTHING TO THE HOUSE EXCEPT, UH, WINTERIZE IT.
UH, I PUT IN A HIGH EFFICIENCY HEATING AND HOT WATER SYSTEM.
I'VE, I'VE ONLY DONE, I'VE PUT IN A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST FIXING IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MA ENVIRONMENTALLY MAKING IT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
AND WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE, YOU NEVER OBJECTED TO THE GARAGE BEING CONVERTED TO LIVE IN SPACE FROM A TWO CAR GARAGE? WELL, I, I, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I COULD DO.
I MEAN, I, I REALLY WANTED A CARRIAGE HOUSE, AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIND A CARRIAGE HOUSE IN, IN WESTCHESTER.
SO, YOU KNOW, UM, I WAS HAPPY TO HAVE FINALLY FOUND ONE, ONE.
THE HOUSE ITSELF WAS BUILT IN THE 1860S AND NOT FINISHED, I THINK TILL THE 1880S, I BELIEVE.
UH, SO THE HOUSE ITSELF WAS VERY OLD, THE MAIN HOUSE AND HAVING A CONVERTED DESK GAVE THE, AN EXTRA ROOM FOR THEM TO HAVE A STUDY IN THAT HOUSE.
SO I, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS DONE.
UH, AND I'M ACTUALLY HOPING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GET AN ELECTRIC CAR AND, UH, PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF.
THE ONLY REASON I HAVEN'T DONE ALL THAT IS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A GARAGE WHERE I CAN PUT A CHARGING STATION AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE ALL THAT HOOKUP FOR THE, UM, THE SOLAR PANELS.
BUT WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT, YOU COULD HAVE, YOU, YOU, YOU CERTAINLY COULD HAVE HAD THEM, UH, RESTORE BACK THE GARAGE
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FROM LIVABLE TO A NATURAL GARAGE.I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE THE, THE, BECAUSE THE LAUNDRY ROOM IS IN THERE.
SO I, I, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, I, I HAVEN'T, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT THEY FILED TO SHOW THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, RECEIVED PERMISSION TO CONVERT IT FROM A GARAGE.
AND IT STILL APPEARS AS IF IT'S A GARAGE FROM WHAT I SEE FROM THE PICTURES.
IT'S NOT A GARAGE UNTIL YOU JUST SAID IT.
I, I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THAT, THAT WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE I BOUGHT IT.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU BOUGHT IT KNOWING THAT IT WASN'T A GARAGE.
AND YES, THEY, THERE'S A SHED IN THE BACK.
I KNEW THAT THERE WAS NO GARAGE, AND I ONLY HAVE ONE CAR NOW.
AND I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GROWN AND THEY WON'T BE LIVING THERE.
AND RIGHT NOW, THE HOUSE ITSELF, AS YOU SAW, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE, IT'S VERY SMALL AS IT IS, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.
THE HOUSE, UH, TO MAKE IT A LARGER HOME, UH, TO, TO TAKE OUT THE GARAGE, REALLY DOES REDUCE THE LIVING ABILITY OF THAT HOUSE.
UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO WORK AROUND IT.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE LOOK OF THE HOUSE FROM THE STREET SIDE.
WE'RE KEEPING THAT VERY PRIVATE.
SO THE SAME LOOK OF THE HOUSE, THE SAME FEEL OF THE HOUSE, THE BARN AND CARRIAGE HOUSE TYPE EFFECT IS STILL THERE.
AND, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRO YOU'RE PROPOSING AN, UM, ANOTHER GARAGE, RIGHT? I DID PROPOSING THAT ONE CAR GARAGE IN THAT AREA.
THAT GONNA GO, WE'RE PROPOSING MORE FOOTPRINT IN THE HOUSE.
'CAUSE IT'S A VERY SMALL FOOTPRINT FOR A LOT, A LOT THAT SIZE.
IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T PUT THE ONE CAR GARAGE THERE, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE ROOM ON THE OTHER SIDE THOUGH, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S A FAIRLY BIG PROPERTY.
IT'S A VERY TO, TO PARK STEEP SLOPE.
RIGHT TO PAR TO PARK ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT.
AS OPPOSED TO, LET'S SAY TO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE, YOU CONVERTED IT, AND NOW YOU WANNA PUT UP A ONE CAR GARAGE.
HOW DO I SHOOT? AND, AND THEN IT'S GONNA GO INTO THE SETBACK SUBSTANTIALLY FROM 12 TO TWO FEET.
WELL, THERE IS EXISTING RIGHT NOW.
CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN AGAIN? YES, I CAN.
THE LOCATION, THE SLOPE OVER HERE CURVING AROUND THE WHOLE CORNER.
THERE IS NO SAFE PLACE TO PUT A DRIVEWAY OVER HERE AT ALL.
THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT, NOT TO MENTION, NOT TO MENTION ONE, NO ONE AT A TIME, PLEASE, ONE AT A TIME.
THE ONLY WAY TO GO AROUND WOULD BE TO GO ACROSS THIS WHOLE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND PUT A HUGE AMOUNT OF, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ALONG FRONT AND MAKE IT PRETTY UGLY.
ACTUALLY, UH, NO, USING THE EXISTING, IT'S VERY STEEP.
IT'S A VERY STEEP HILL OVER HERE.
SO GETTING UP THIS HILL, ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTERTIME, WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE, UH, UNLESS YOU HAVE A, UH, A REAL TRUCK.
UH, DO YOU USE IT, DO YOU USE THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY THERE NOW? LEADING INTO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY WORKS NOW AS A PLACE THAT'S WHERE WE PARK OUR CAR.
SO THE CAR GETS PARKED RIGHT NOW, BUT, BUT YOU SEE THE STEEPNESS OF THE HILL HERE.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE, AND THIS IS ALL AROUND THE CURVE.
PUT IN A, A DRIVEWAY ON A CURVE LIKE THIS IS ALSO DANGEROUS.
GO BACK, GO PULL BACK UP THE TWO CAR GARAGE AND THE, AND THE DRIVEWAY LEADING TO THE TWO CAR GARAGE.
ALRIGHT, NOW, UH, TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, TO THE RIGHT OF IT, UH, OVER THERE IS A STEEP SLOPE ALSO.
IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT.
THIS IS, THIS GOES RIGHT DOWN PRETTY FAST.
AND IT'S ALSO GETTING, UH, DOWN BY THE HILL THERE.
SO, AND IT'S ALSO GONNA CHANGE THE WHOLE STYLE AND LOOK OF THE HOUSE.
AND ALSO I HAVE SETBACKS, ISSUES NOT GETTING MORE INTO SETBACK ISSUES OVER HERE.
UH, WHEN THE HOUSE IS BEING PLACED NOW, THERE'S NO SETBACK BECAUSE THIS IS ALL FRONT YARD.
AND LEN, THERE'S A FIRE HYDRANT THERE TOO.
OH, WE GOT YOUR PICTURE IN HOW MANY, HOW MANY, HOW MANY CARS? CAN YOU, CAN YOU, CAN YOU PARK IN THAT DRIVEWAY? UM, ONE AND A HALF KIND OF SIDEWAYS.
I CAN SEE HOW MUCH WIDER THIS THE NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY IS RIGHT NOW.
ONCE AGAIN, IT'S ALSO RIGHT BY THE PARKING.
YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T PARK, YOU CAN'T PARK CARS BEHIND, BEHIND EACH OTHER.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH, UH, LENGTH.
SO YOU CAN PARK MORE THAN TWO? NO, NO, JUST TWO.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER DRIVEWAY, YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH SPACE THERE IS FOR A CAR TO BE NEXT TO THAT TRUCK.
YOU CAN'T REALLY PARK CAR SIDE BY SIDE.
IT'S, NO, I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING AT A TWO CAR GARAGE AND I'M LOOKING AT A PAVE.
I'M LOOKING AT THE PAVEMENT COMING FROM THE STREET.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY.
UH, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE, UM, THE, THE FARM WESTCHESTER FARM, WHICH HAVE BEEN BEFORE US, UH, ON, ON ZONING APPLICATION, PROBABLY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IT SEEMED TO ME, FROM LOOKING AT THE PICTURE THAT IT'S PAVED NOW.
IT IS PAVED ALL RIGHT TO THE SAME AS THE, AS THE TWO CAR GARAGE.
SO YOU CAN DRIVE ON THE PAVEMENT.
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IT'S TIGHT, IS ALL I I ALL I CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, IF TWO CARS ARE, ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.THE CAR, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TWO DOORS ARE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER.
IF THE TWO CARS ARE SIDE BY SIDE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WERE PARKED ON THE RIGHT SIDE, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF THE CAR IF THERE WAS A CAR NEXT TO YOU.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GOOD OPEN DOOR.
UH, I TRY JUST, I KIND JUST BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SCREEN ONE MORE TIME, UH, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY OVER HERE.
SO WE CAN GET A CAR HERE AND A CAR HERE.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM ON THE SIDE HERE.
AND WE'RE ELIMINATING ALL THIS, UH, DRIVEWAY OVER HERE SO THAT YOU CANNOT START PILING UP CARS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
THIS WILL ALL BE, COME BACK TO GRASS AGAIN AND LAWN.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE REMOVING ALL THAT AREA AND JUST CONTINUING OVER HERE FOR OUR DRIVEWAY OVER HERE, WHICH WILL BE NOW HIDDEN IN PRIVATE, UH, FOR THE CAR.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A ONE CAR GARAGE THAT WE'RE ADDING OVER HERE.
I HAVE SETBACK ISSUES OVER HERE.
IF I BRING IT TO HERE, AND I'LL BE COMING ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY HERE, IT'S, I'M SORRY.
IF YOU SAID YOU GO TO THE RIGHT, YOU'D, IF YOU GO TO THE RIGHT, YOU'LL HAVE SETBACK ISSUES IN ADDITIONAL TO THE STEEP SLOPE.
AND IF YOU GO TO THE LEFT, LOOKING AT THE GARAGE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA PUT BACK, UM, UH, GRASS THERE, IF YOU PAVE OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE AND, AND WIDEN THAT, UH, YOU WOULD SEEM TO, YOU'LL SEEM TO HAVE MORE PARKING THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WON'T HAVE THE GARAGE AND YOU WON'T, YOU, THERE'S NO GARAGE RIGHT THERE.
YOU MEAN TAKE OUT THE GARAGE ALTOGETHER? NO.
IF YOU, IF YOU EXPAND THE ASPHALT OVER TO THE LEFT, LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT THE GARAGE TO THE LEFT WHERE YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA REMOVE THAT, THIS AREA HERE.
AND SO YOU WOULD SEEM, YOU WON'T HAVE A GARAGE, BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN HAVE, UH, ADEQUATE PARKING.
WELL, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A GARAGE.
THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO GET A, IS TO CONVERT TO A, A TWO CAR, A TWO CAR GARAGE INTO LIVABLE SPACE AND THEN GET ANOTHER GARAGE INTO PRETTY MUCH THE SIDE YARD.
UM, WELL THAT'S ADDING, THAT'S CHANGING THE WHOLE ASPECT OF THE HOUSE AND ADDING A GREAT DEAL OF COST.
IF I HAVE TO TAKE THAT OUT, REBUILD IT FOR CONCRETE SLABS, UH, AND, AND THEN
I'M LOSING ALL THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE IN MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW IF I DO THAT.
YOU LOOK AT SIZE THIS COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE ADDING, WE'RE NOT ADDING THAT LARGE OF AN ADDITION TO THE HOUSE.
AND THE ADDITION RIGHT NOW DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY VARIANCES.
THE ONLY VARIANCE IS THE DRIVEWAY RIGHT HERE.
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR, FOR PARKING, RIGHT? NO, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A, WE'RE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE ONLY PLACE THAT CORNER OF THE HOUSE IS OVER HERE.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH ROOM, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DRIVE PAST THERE AND BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE, INTO THE NEW GARAGE.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR, SO THAT YOU CAN PARK, SO THAT YOU CAN PARK AND WE CAN PARK, PARK UP HERE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE HOUSE, WHICH IS UP HERE.
PARK IN THE GARAGE OR PARKED TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE OVER HERE.
THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE HOUSE.
SO BRINGING THE GARAGE OR PARKING AREA BY THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, IT JUST SEEMS LOGICAL AT THIS POINT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, TO MAKE THE HOUSE MORE USABLE AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME TO CREATE MORE SPACE THAT WE'RE USING THAT WHERE WE USE FOR THE POOL AND FOR COMMON AREAS FOR THE HOUSE.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THE ONLY PLACE TO GET BACK THERE IS FROM OVER HERE.
AND WE, BUT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET OUR DRIVEWAY THROUGH.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THE NEIGHBOR IS ALSO RIGHT THERE ON THE PROPERTY, RIGHT BY THE PROPERTY LINE AS YOU SAW IN THE PHOTOGRAPH.
SO WE'RE NOT REALLY GOING FOR MAJOR CHANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND WE DON'T, THIS WAY, WE DON'T NEED ANY VARIANCES IN TERMS OF I HAVE TO BUILD A GARAGE OVER HERE.
I NEED FRONT YARD SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON.
PLUS I'M IN A STEEP SLOPE AND I HAVE A PRETTY UGLY THING COMING OUT OVER HERE, RUINING THE NICE AREA.
THAT LOOKS NICE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND.
RIGHT NOW, I, IF YOU CAN GET THE SPACE THAT YOU NEED FOR PARKING, THEN THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE THE NEED FOR THE GARAGE.
BUT IF YOU WANT THE ONE CAR GARAGE, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU.
THE PARKING, YOU CAN CERTAINLY EXPAND TO THE LEFT, UH, BY PUTTING THE ASPHALT THERE.
AND YOU CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE.
NO, I THINK, UM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WANT THE ONE CAR GARAGE PRETTY MUCH IN THE SIDE THERE.
YOU DO NEED THE GARAGE FOR THE ELECTRIC CAR THAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT IN THERE.
THE REASON I WANT A ONE CAR GARAGE IS GIVEN CLIMATE CHANGE, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HAVING EXTREMES OF WEATHER.
AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A IN INSIDE SPACE OR EVEN A COVERED SPACE TO PUT A CAR.
WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOUSE, THERE WAS MEANING, I THOUGHT A HOUSE, MEANING THAT THE PREMISES, THE PREMISE, THE PREMISE WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED HAD NOT ONLY ONE, BUT TWO, IT HAD TWO CAR GARAGE WAS WHEN I BOUGHT, BOUGHT MY HOUSE.
I DID NOT, THERE WAS NO GARAGE.
BUT IT, I I CAN LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE NOW.
WHEN YOU LOOKED AT IT, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW.
THERE IS NO GARAGE UNTIL YOU VISITED INSIDE OF IT.
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YOU, SO I, I, I VISITED THE HOUSE, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.I LIKED THAT SIDE ROOM, YOU KNOW, THE DEN, WHICH, UH, WAS A GARAGE.
AND AT THE TIME, UM, I DIDN'T THINK CLIMATE CHANGE WAS A HUGE PROBLEM.
LET ME, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME BE CLEAR.
'CAUSE I, I, I DEAL WITH THESE SITUATION.
I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT THAT'S LIVABLE SPACE UNTIL YOU JUST SAID THAT.
AND I'VE DRIVEN PAST THERE MANY TIMES AND I, I WOULDN'T KNOW UNTIL YOU JUST TOLD ME.
NOW THAT IT'S CONVERTED TO LIVABLE SPACE, I'D FIGURE WOW, THAT'S NICE.
IF I WAS TO BUY THE HOUSE FROM YOU, THEN I SEE, OH, IT'S NOT A GARAGE, IT'S LIVABLE SPACE.
SO A C F O IS ISSUED FOR THE OVERALL STRUCTURE, INCLUDING THOSE TWO GARAGE.
OR IF THEY WERE ADDED ON, THEN THE C F O WAS ISSUED FOR THE TWO GARAGES ADDED ON.
AND SO WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT, WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT, YOU KNEW THAT AFTER YOU VISITED AND LOOKED AT IT, THAT THERE'S NO TWO CAR GARAGE THERE.
IT WAS VERY, IT WAS VERY WELL CONCEALED FROM THE PUBLIC THAT IT WAS MODIFIED ON THE INTERIOR.
AND IT MAINTAINED THE LOOK AND THE FEEL OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS WHAT I'M SURE THE ORIGINAL OWNERS DID.
NOT, NOT TO THE, NOT TO THE ATTORNEY WHO REPRESENTED HER, NOT TO THE ATTORNEY WHO REPRESENTED HER, AND ALSO WHATEVER REPORT, REPORT THAT THEY GOT IN WHATEVER REPORT THAT THEY HAD DURING THE PURCHASE.
AND ALSO NOT TO THE BROKERS OVER HERE.
ALSO, THEY'RE GONNA TELL HER, OH, OKAY, IT WAS CONVERTED.
LET ME GO CHECK IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG BILLING DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF, UH, THEIR APPLIANCE FILED TO HAVE IT CONVERTED TO SEE IF THERE'S A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION THAT WAS ISSUED ON IT.
SO THAT THAT'S THEIR DUE DILIGENCE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
I BELIEVE THERE IS ACTUALLY A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THIS AREA.
THIS WASN'T, NO, I'M NOT O OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD BE FOR THE, FOR THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE.
NOW I'M TALKING ABOUT IF THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE HAS BUILT, I DON'T SEE, I I, I COULD CERTAINLY REQUEST THE C F O TO SEE IF THE C F O WAS ISSUED FOR THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE.
AND THEN I CAN ALSO SEE IF A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION NOW WAS ISSUED TO CONVERT THE GARAGE INTO LIVABLE SPACE.
AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS ACTUALLY, OKAY.
IT WAS, THIS WAS THERE THAT DID EXIST.
AND THE HOUSE IS LEGAL THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
I CHECKED IT BEFORE IS THE ARCHITECT, I LOOKED AT THE HOUSE, SIR, FIRST I CHECKED IT MYSELF.
I MADE SURE THAT IT IS ALL LEGAL.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU, THIS WAS CONVERTED AND IT WAS DONE LEGALLY.
UH, THEY PUT PLUMBING, THE PLUMBING WAS INSPECTED.
UH, IT'S JUST THAT IT WAS A VERY SMALL HOUSE.
AND AS I SAID, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS, UH, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.
IT WAS AN ADDITION PUT ON HERE, ADDITION PUT ON TOP OF THIS A GARAGE ADDED AT ONE POINT.
SO THIS IS A HOUSE THAT HAS BEEN ADDED ON OVER THE, OVER 150 YEARS.
AND, AND I THINK ACTUALLY IN REALITY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSE AND YES, YOU CAN'T TELL THAT THIS IS CONVERTED.
AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS THE CONCEPT THAT THEY HAD.
IT WAS MUCH, IT WAS PROBABLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO PUT THE WALL.
'CAUSE THEY DID BUILD A WALL IN FRONT OF THIS AREA OVER HERE BY THE DOORS.
INSULATED, PUT INSULATED WINDOWS.
AND THEY MAINTAINED IT, THE LOOK OF A CARRIAGE HOUSE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY, THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF THAT.
SO IN TERMS OF DRIVING AROUND AND SEEING THIS, IT, IT DOES HIDDEN.
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S, UM, I'M, I'M SORRY.
MAY I, MAY I INTERRUPT HERE, PLEASE? YES.
MAY I INTERRUPT, PLEASE? UM, I'M, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE VARIANCE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
IT ACTUALLY DOES LOU, IT ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING ONE AT, AT A TIME, PLEASE.
LET, LET, IT ACTUALLY DOES, BECAUSE THEY, GO AHEAD.
SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THE BOARD RIGHT NOW IS THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE, YOU'RE GOING FROM A 12 FOOT REQUIREMENT SET BACK FOR THE DRIVEWAY TO TWO FEET.
AND I'M SITTING AT AREA RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED, UH, NEW ADDITION WITH THE GARAGE.
AND I IMAGINE THAT YOU HAVE THAT, UM, EXPANDED SUCH SO THAT, THAT CREATE A TURNAROUND SPACE.
UM, I, I, I, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
YOU WANTED TO RESPOND? UH, NO.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ON THE BOARD THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE?
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OKAY.UH, YOU, YOU'VE HEARD WHAT'S BEEN SAID, UH,
KAHAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER REMARKS YOU WANTED TO MAKE? UM, NO, EXCEPT THAT MY, MY NEIGHBORS ARE EXCITED.
UH, THEY THINK IT'S GONNA HELP THEIR PROPERTY VALUE AND WE GET ALONG GREAT.
AND, UH, I GUESS IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT, I MEAN, I PLAN TO RETIRE THERE AND LIVE THERE.
THAT'S WHY I AM FIXING UP THE HOUSE.
I MEAN, I PLAN TO BE THERE FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS OR SOMETHING.
MR. BRANDIS, ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD? UH, YES.
I, I THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND I HAVE A FEELING DR.
KHAN'S PRETTY EXHAUSTED FROM HER CRAZY HOURS AT THE HOSPITAL THESE DAYS.
UH, SO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR JUST A SMALL VARI WELL, WE, IT IS, IT IS A SMALL VARIANCE FOR THE PARKING FOR THE DRIVEWAY, ACTUALLY, TO GET UP THERE.
SO WE CAN GO HAVE A DRIVEWAY, HAVE A ONE CAR GARAGE, AND BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND AND, AND EXIT.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS WHY WE ELIMINATED A LOT OF THE, THE ASPHALT THAT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING GARAGE BUILDING, WE'LL CALL IT, I GUESS, CONVERTED GARAGE BUILDING.
UH, BY ELIMINATING ALL THAT AREA, I THINK WE ARE, YOU KNOW, ADDING TO THE IMPROVEMENT TO THE, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY ADDING LESS, UH, PARKING IN THAT AREA.
PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA WANT TO PARK THERE.
THEY'RE GONNA BRING THE CARS UP TO THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE, UH, WHERE THE NEW GARAGE WILL BE, IS THAT BY THE FRONT ENTRANCE.
AND I THINK IT'S JUST A BIG IMPROVEMENT.
ONCE AGAIN, IT IS, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO WHAT'S, WHAT IS THE NEIGHBOR HAS, AS YOU SAW IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS? IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.
UH, THE DRIVEWAYS ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE JUST MAINTAINING THE DRIVEWAYS NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
AND THEN, UH, CREATING A BUILDING THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY VARIANCES.
AND ONCE AGAIN, IT'S A VERY UNIQUE LOT WHERE IT IS ON A CORNER.
SO THERE REALLY IS NO OTHER PLACE TO ENTER ON THE LOT.
YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T PUT A DRIVEWAY ANY OTHER SPOT IN THAT LOT, EXCEPT THAT ONE CORNER.
SO TO MOVE THE DRIVEWAY AND TRY TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE IS GONNA BE PRETTY MUCH IMPOSSIBLE.
UH, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE, UH, ON A UNIQUE PROPERTY AND MAINTAIN THE UNIQUENESS OF THE PROPERTY AND THE HOUSE AND THE HISTORY OF THE HOUSE.
CAN I JUST ASK YOU, UH, THE WAY THAT THE PLAN THAT WE SEE SHOW SOME SHRUBBERY ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE THERE? OR WAS THAT JUST FOR, UM, NO, WE HAVE A TWO FOOT SHRUBBERY LINE THAT WE WANNA MAINTAIN BETWEEN THE PARK, BETWEEN THE DRIVEWAY AND THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO WE WANNA HAVE AT LEAST TWO FEET THAT WE CAN HAVE SHRUBBERY, AND WE DO WANNA MAINTAIN A GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY.
OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
THEY'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
AND SO, UH, SO IS MY CLIENT, AND WE WANNA MAINTAIN THAT.
SO BY HAVING THAT BUFFER, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE HAVE A TWO FOOT BUFFER.
IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN THAT.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY, IS IT THE SHRUBBERY THAT IS THERE NOW OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S GOING THERE? THERE'S REALLY NO, THERE.
I THINK THERE ARE LIKE, KIND OF, UH, OLD, UM, UH, UNSIGHTLY BUSHES RIGHT NOW.
I, I HOPE TO MAKE IT LOOK PRETTIER, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
I MEAN, DO YOU PLAN TO PUT SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE A SCREENING THAT WOULD BE HIGH? OH, NO, NO, NO.
THEY, MY, MY NEIGHBORS HAVE A FENCE THERE RIGHT NOW MM-HMM.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL PROBABLY JUST LIKE LITTLE BUSHES AND FLOWERS TO MAKE IT, KEEP IT PRETTY.
YEAH, IT IS ALREADY SCREENED BY THE NEIGHBOR'S, UH, FENCE.
THEY HAVE A, I THINK IT'S A FOUR FOOT HIGH FENCE THERE, OR SIX FOOT HIGH FENCE THERE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
AND WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN FOR OUR DELIBERATIONS.
AND AS WE SAID, YOU ARE WELCOME TO LISTEN IN WHEN WE START THEM, HOWEVER NOT TO COMMENT.
AND WE WILL BE BACK ON THE RECORD AS SOON AS WE FINISHED.
I PAUSED THE, UH, THE ZOOM HERE AND, UH, WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, I BELIEVE, AND, UH, THEN WE'LL GO INTO DELIBERATIONS.
MADAM CHAIR, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? YES.
SO, JANELLE, YOU CAN, UH, CEASE THE LIVE FEED AND, UH, WE'LL CHECK BACK AT FIVE 40.
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DELIBERATE AWAY.LET'S START WITH OUR FIRST CASE, WHICH IS LIGHTBRIDGE AC ACADEMY.
I LOVE THAT WE'RE STARTING OUR LITTLE ONES IN ACADEMIES.
WE'VE HEARD A, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ON THIS CASE.
UM, I AM SATISFIED WITH THE PROPOSAL AS IT STANDS AND WOULD VOTE TO GRANT.
SO SINCE I DON'T HEAR ANY COMMENTS, YOU WANNA DO A, UH, LITTLE, LITTLE VOTE HERE AND SEE WHERE WE ARE.
I'M JUST PULLING MY, MY, MY RED.
AND I AM, AND SO I ASSUME THAT THIS IS ONE WE'RE GOING TO ASK AND TO WRITE UP FOR US.
WHAT, WHICH CASE IS THIS? I JUST CAME BACK, I JUST CAME BACK LIGHTBRIDGE,
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BUT I ALREADY DRAFTED SOMETHING.SO DO WE HAVE, AND YOU KNOW, I SAW IT AND NOW I CAN'T FIND IT.
I SAW IT WHEN IT CAME IN AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE I PUT IT.
THERE WILL HAVE TO BE, IF I CAN GIVE ME A SECOND.
THERE WAS SOMETHING CHANGED, RIGHT? UH, WELL THE ONE THING THAT'S CHANGED IS THE, UM, THEIR LIMITATION THAT THEY CAME UP WITH NOW AND NO, SOMETHING ELSE.
E DO YOU WANT ME TO EMAIL IT TO YOU? WELL, WAIT, LET'S SEE IF FIRST, IF HE HAS, DO YOU HAVE HIS CHANGE IN WHAT YOU HAVE, CAROL? YES.
THE, UH, THE ONLY CHANGE I SAW WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLAN CLOSELY IS THAT, THAT THE, THERE ARE ONLY THREE SPACES, NOT FIVE, THAT ARE GOING TO BE WITHIN ZERO FEET.
RIGHT? I THINK THAT WAS POINTED OUT TONIGHT, WASN'T IT? NO, I DON'T THINK THEY MENTIONED IT, BUT WHEN THE NEIGHBOR, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR ASKED WHERE THE ZERO FEET WERE AND HE POINTED IT OUT, I THOUGHT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OH, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT PART.
I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S THREE SPACES.
SO, SO ON THE FIRST PARAGRAPH AND THE FINDINGS, THE THIRD LINE SHOULD SAY THREE INSTEAD OF FIVE.
AND THEN CONDITION NUMBER THREE.
UH, LIKEWISE ON THE FIRST LINE WHERE IT SAYS FIVE, THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED TO THREE.
SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO, CORRECT? YES.
AND MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT CASE SAW MILL STONE.
I'LL GET IT WHILE WE'RE DOING THE OTHERS.
UM, WHILE WE'RE DOING, UH, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT, UH, LET'S LOOK AT SAWMILL STONE AND MASONRY, WHICH APPARENTLY A LOT OF, UH, WORK WAS DONE ON BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORS, WHICH IS GOOD.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON IT AT THIS POINT? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE A STRAW VOTE ON IT AT THIS POINT? I SEE CHRISTIE GOING, YES, I'M FORWARD VOTE TO GRANT.
DO WE HAVE A WAY OF WRITING THIS ONE UP? IT'S BEING VERY QUIET.
I THINK, ED, YOU WANNA WRITE IT UP? I THINK ED DIDN'T WANNA WRITE IT UP BECAUSE HE HAD SOME QUESTIONS, RIGHT.
WHICH, UM, I BELIEVE WERE ANSWERED PREVIOUSLY IN TERMS OF TRUCKS BACKING IN AND BACKING OUT THAT EGRESS ACCESS EGRESS TO THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO I, I DIDN'T REALLY SEE A NEED TO, UH, DISCUSS THAT NOR THE, THE FACT THAT THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR 10 YEAR, A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS MM-HMM.
UM, THEY DID KIND OF MENTION THE FACT, YOU KNOW, OF THE NOISE, THERE WAS, UH, I THINK WAS BROUGHT UP LAST MONTH THAT THERE, THERE IS A LEVEL, THERE IS A PRETTY HIGH AMBIENT NOISE LEVEL THAT EXISTS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC ON SAWMILL RIVER ROAD AND A SAWMILL PARKWAY.
SO I BELIEVE THAT, UM, ONCE THE OWNER AND, UH, LUIGI, HE SEEMS HIS HEART SEEMS TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
UH, JUST MAKE SURE THAT TRUCKS DON'T DRIVE UP BEFORE 7:00 AM AND THEN KEEP THEIR ENGINES RUNNING, WHICH CAN TRULY BE, UM, AN ANNOYANCE.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE WERE NO OTHER BUFFERING, UH, NOISE ABATEMENT, UM, A THING THAT COULD BE DONE TO RE REDUCE.
SO I, I'M, I WOULD'VE HOPED THAT THE, THE LETTER FROM THE LAWYER WOULD'VE EXPLAINED THE VARIANCES THAT GO FROM WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENTS
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ARE TO ZERO A LITTLE BETTER.BUT, UM, YOU CAN COVER IT EVEN THOUGH A KIND OF BROADLY, SO I'M, I'M, I'M FOR IT.
JUST TO COMMENT, THE, THE ACTUAL ADVANTAGES OF THE TRUCKS BEING ABLE TO GO IN AND OUT THE OF THE PROPERTY IS WELL WORTH IT.
JUST, JUST TO COMMENT ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU JUST RAISED, I THOUGHT THAT ON THE ISSUE OF THE, THE VARIANCE WITH RESPECT TO THE, UM, PARKING SPACES THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN, I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS RELATED TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE THAT, UM, SLOPE THAT COMES DOWN ON THE PROPERTY THERE.
AND IN ORDER TO, I GUESS FOR THE TRUCKS AND TO USE IT FOR THE TRUCKS THAT THEY PUT IN THERE, UM, THEY JUST FIT IN BY GOING DIRECTLY TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I HAD HEARD BACK ON ONE OF THE OTHER MEETINGS.
UH, I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
THE OTHER THING THAT, UM, I BELIEVE THE OWNER HAD SAID, AND THEN AGAIN, THIS WAS ALSO AT A PRIOR MEETING, WAS THAT THEY OPEN AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND SOMETIMES THE TRUCKS ARE THERE WAITING FOR THEM TO OPEN, BUT THEY DO OPEN AT SEVEN SO THAT THE TRUCKS CAN COME IN.
THEY DON'T OPEN TO PERMIT THE TRUCKS TO COME IN AND JUST SIT THERE AND IDLE.
SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S NOISE THAT'S ON THE ROAD THAT HAPPENS BEFORE THE 7:00 AM AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE CREATING NECESSARILY.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO I THINK YOU SAID, LOU, THAT, UM, YOU FELT THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT ED WAS GOING TO WRITE UP BECAUSE OF SOMETHING HE WANTED TO PUT IN? NO, IT WASN'T
DID I HEAR THAT? I, I DID SAY THAT FOR PLEASE.
WELL, YOU'RE, NO, I SAID I DIDN'T, I WASN'T, I WASN'T PREPARED TO WRITE A, A DECISION FOR TONIGHT BECAUSE I, I THOUGHT THERE WERE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS.
NOW WHETHER YOU THINK THOSE HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, THAT'S UP TO YOU.
UH, AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, DO YOU, CAN YOU CON ARE YOU GOING TO CONSIDER CONDITIONING IT OR, OR NOT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING ANY CONDITIONS IN? I DON'T THINK, I DON'T, WHAT WOULD THE CONDITIONS BE AT? UM, IF I, IF I COULD, UH, INTERJECT HERE.
THE APPLICANT IN THEIR LAST RECENT SUBMISSION DID OUTLINE, UH, SOME, SOME COORDINATION COMPONENTS THAT THEY COULD DO WITH THEIR, UH, DELIVERY TRUCKS.
UM, AND I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO CONDITION CONSISTENT WITH THAT, UH, COVER LETTER.
UH, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW VARIANCES IN THIS INSTANCE.
I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UM, IN, IN LIGHT OF THAT, IF THERE IS, UH, A STRAW POLL BY THE BOARD THAT WE, YOU WOULD CLOSE FOR DECISION AND GIVE US TIME TO, UM, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH CONS, CONDITIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT WITH THAT, UH, SUBMISSION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH AN I EYE TOWARDS MITIGATING NOISE AND, AND AS BEST WE CAN.
NOW, THE NUMBERS THAT WE GOT TONIGHT WERE THOSE, THEY WERE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'RE IN THEIR LETTER, SO THAT I KNOW, BUT THEY, BUT THEY'RE ALSO NOTICED ON THE AGENDA.
THAT'S THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
SO YOU HAVE THE DRAFT AND THAT WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED, I THINK ONLY IN ONE PLACE.
I SENT YOU A, A, A REVISED ONE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE 53 FEET, BUT IN CONDITION NUMBER THREE, UH, UH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE, UH, IT WAS SET BACK ONLY 115 FEET FROM THE CURB OF SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK IS ACCURATE.
SO YOU HAD 150? NO, I HAD 122.
THEY, IN THEIR LETTER, THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SET BACK.
UH, WELL, THEY SAID NUMBER ONE, THEY WERE SET BACK 30, YOU KNOW, 36, 53 FEET.
THEY SAID THEY WERE SET BACK 53 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND 122 FEET
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FROM SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.THAT, WHICH CHANGED TO 53 53 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
UH, AND I DID NOT, THE, THE PLAN WAS SO SMALL I COULDN'T READ IT.
APPARENTLY THEY'RE SET BACK 115 FEET FROM THE CURB OF SAW MILL RIVER ROAD.
SO I'D LIKE TO ED, IF I COULD, I'D LIKE TO, UH, JUST CLARIFY, UM, THE VARIANCE SOUGHT IS PROPOSED 36.8, AND THAT'S WHAT'S, UH, IN THE AGENDA.
AND THAT'S INDEED WHAT WAS, UH, NOTICED FOR THIS MEETING.
AND THAT'S, UH, UH, YES, UH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I THAT'S A GREATER VARIANCE INITIALLY.
SO THE AGENDA'S CORRECT, THE NOTICE IS CORRECT, AND THE MOST RECENT PLANS ARE CORRECT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER TO THE ACTUAL CURB LINE AT MY DISPOSAL, UM, BUT I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.
I, I DID HEAR HIM SAY THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACCURATE.
I HAVE THAT MR. MAX, I'M SORRY.
IT'S, IT'S DELIBERATION PORTION.
WE DON'T HAVE THE, UM, PUBLIC INPUT, BUT, UH, ONE 15 IS INDEED CONFIRMED.
SO IN CONDITION THREE, THE NEXT TO LAST LINE, THAT SHOULD READ 115 FEET INSTEAD OF 122.
SO IT'S JUST THE ONE CHANGE ON THAT DECISION, RIGHT? I, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I DON'T, I MYSELF DON'T EVEN HAVE THE REVISION I SENT OUT TO YOU, BUT I KNOW I DIDN'T CHANGE THAT NUMBER.
I'LL LOOK FOR IT IF I'M GONNA LOOK FOR IT MYSELF.
THE NEXT TO LAST LINE, IT SHOULD READ 115.
AND I'M SORRY, AND TWO LINES ABOVE THAT.
DO YOU HAVE 36.8 OR 53? 36.8? YEAH.
SO THAT'S THE SECOND THAT, THAT'S THE, THE CORRECT, UH, VERSION.
SO JUST CHANGE THAT TO ONE 15.
I DID LOOK, IT'S, IT'S ONE 15.5, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, UM, IMPORTANT.
AND THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD RECEIVE SEPTEMBER 29TH, OR BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ONE.
IS THAT THE LATEST? UH, WE'LL GET THAT DATE FOR YOU.
IT'S, UH, DEFINITELY BEEN UPDATED SINCE THEN.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL HAVE THAT DATE FOR YOU MOMENTARILY.
GARRETT, YOU SAID 115.5? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WHILE YOU'RE GETTING THAT, I'LL MOVE ON TO CASE 2024, WHICH IS THE TAMARACK PROPERTY AND WHAT I DO 2020.
ANY, OH, IF WE COULD GO BACK, GO BACK TO I, I, I APOLOGIZE.
GO BACK TO THE, BACK TO THE TEMPLE.
UH, IT APPEARS ALSO IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THE FINDINGS, THE FOURTH LINE DOWN.
DID I MAKE THAT CHANGE? I HAVE 36.
THE, UH, LATEST PLAN IS DATED NOVEMBER 12TH.
AND THAT'S THE DATE OF THE PLAN OR THE DATE IT WAS RECEIVED? UH, MOST RECENT REVISION.
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WE HAVE A REAR YARD SETBACK THAT'S GOING TO BE REDUCED FROM WHAT'S EXISTING.AND THEN WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN THE, UH, F A R.
AND THIS AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE OF THE, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO DESCRIBE THE
WELL, IT'S THE WAY IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LAID OUT.
WELL, YOU HAVE TWO, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO OBTUSE AND TWO OF THE OPPOSITE.
IT'S FOR THAT CORNER OF THE PROPOSED ADDITION THAT GETS OUT OF THE WAY OF THE, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH THE SETBACK FOR THE REAR YARD.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS OR ANYTHING.
WHO WANTS TO DO THE DECISION? I CAN DO IT.
DO YOU HAVE THE FORM? YEAH, I THINK I DO.
UH, EMMA AND MORELLO AT 1 0 2 EDGEMONT.
SO WE HAVE THE NEW PLAN SUBMITTED TO US ON NOVEMBER 9TH WITH RESPECT TO THAT, UM, LITTLE ADDITION THERE ON THE FRONT.
THAT'S OVER THE NONCONFORMING NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE.
LET'S START WITH FLU THIS TIME.
SO, UM, ROWAN, DO YOU WANNA DO THAT ONE? UH, I'M TRYING TO FIND MY APPLICATION.
I, I KNOW I SAVED IT IN THE COMPUTER AND I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP.
UH, CAROL, IF YOU CAN, YOU WANT HER TO SEND IT TO YOU AGAIN? YEAH, YOU WANT ME TO SEND IT? OKAY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH DIRECTORY I SAVED IT ON.
SO WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE LAST CASE WE HAVE, WHICH IS, OH, CAROL CONN.
DID YOU FIND IT? UH, YOU DON'T AFTER CAROL? I FOUND IT.
KHAN'S PROPERTY, THE DRIVEWAY.
ANY COMMENTS? I ALSO HAD NO OBJECTION,
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION FOR IT EITHER.
I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT TILL WILL COMES IN.
'CAUSE WE'VE HAD A HISTORY NOT ZEROING OUT LOT LINES.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO AVOID.
UM, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE OVER THE 20 SOMETHING YEARS, WE'VE HAD A HISTORY OF NOT DOING THAT EVEN AS RECENTLY, MAYBE EVEN THIS YEAR OR LAST YEAR.
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I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU IN THEORY, BUT I THINK GIVEN SEVERAL FACTORS, BUT I, I APPRECIATE, UM, YOUR POSITION.SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ARGUE ABOUT IT TONIGHT.
UM, WOULD YOU WANT US, ME TO WRITE ANYTHING TO DR.
KAHN OR HER, UH, ARCHITECT WITH REGARD TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO DO, ROWAN? NO, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECT SAID THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THE, UM, THE COMPLETION, WHICH IS, WHICH IS, UH, WHICH IS GOOD.
UM, NO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING.
I THINK IT'S JUST BEEN OUR, OUR PRECEDENT CONSISTENTLY.
UM, AND IF WE ARE GOING TO VARY IT AND MOVE AWAY FROM THAT, UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN, I DIDN'T SEE THE REASON, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ARGUING.
I WAS SEEING IF THEY CAN, IF IF THE OBJECTIVE WAS FOR A PARKING, THEN THEY CAN MOVE, PUT SOME ASPHALT WHERE THEY'RE GONNA, UH, REMOVE ASPHALT.
THEY COULD PUT ADDITIONAL ASPHALT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE THERE.
BUT IF THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO GET THE GARAGE FOR THE, UM, THE ELECTRIC CAR AND FOR CHARGING IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A NEED THAT SHE HAS.
NOW, THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BUT IF IT WAS JUST TO SAY TO PARK, I DIDN'T SEE THE NEED AT ALL TO ZERO OUT A, A, A SIDE, A SIDE YARD, GIVEN THE PRECEDENT THAT THIS BOARD HAS FOR AT LEAST OVER THE TWO DECADES THAT I'VE BEEN HERE.
AND AS I SAID, AS RECENTLY THIS YEAR, AS LAST YEAR.
SO I'M NOT SURE THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I CAN ASK FOR.
IF, IF WE'RE NOW GONNA MOVE AWAY FROM THAT, THEN WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT.
'CAUSE WE'VE DENIED, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE COME IN THAT HAVE COME TO ZERO OUT THE LOT, PRETTY MUCH ZEROED OUT.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING FROM 12 TO TWO AND TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE.
IF THE FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE, OKAY, I NEED A GARAGE BECAUSE AGAIN, UM, I'M GETTING AN ELECTRIC CAR AND I WANT IT IN THERE.
THEN YOU KNOW, SHE HAS, SHE HAS GARY, I MEAN, ROWAN, I COULD SEND THEM A LETTER ASKING THEM THE REASONS REASONING FOR HA HAVING THE GARAGE.
SHE, SHE STATED IT FOR THE ELECTRIC.
SHE WANTS TO HAVE IT FOR THE, TO GET AN ELECTRIC CAR TO PUT IN THERE.
WELL, YOU'RE YOU'RE FOCUSING ON THE GARAGE.
THE GARAGE IS THE WHOLE ADDICTION.
WELL THAT'S WHY EVE, THAT'S WHY SHE WANTS TO, THAT'S WHY SHE'S MOVING OVER.
SHE WANTS TO, TO WIDEN THE DRIVEWAY SO THAT THEY CAN GET TO THE GARAGE.
IF, IF, IF THE WHOLE IDEA IS SHE WANTS TO WIDEN THE DRIVEWAY FOR A PARKING, FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING, SHE, SHE, FROM WHAT I SEE, SHE HAS ENOUGH PARKING IN THAT DRIVEWAY ALREADY.
AND IF SHE, IF SHE CAN'T PARK FOUR CARS IN THAT DRIVEWAY AND SHE NEEDS TO BUMP IT OVER TO THE LEFT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO PUT ASPHALT THERE SO SHE CAN FIT FOUR CARS IN THERE, THEN THERE'S NO NEED FOR A GARAGE.
BUT I CAN'T TELL HER WHAT TO PUT ON HER PROPERTY.
THERE'LL BE NO NEED FOR IT BECAUSE SHE HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING SPACE ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT SHE STATED THE NEED, THE NEED FOR THE GARAGE.
WELL, SHE SAID SHE, SHE COULD STILL HAVE A GARAGE.
SHE JUST WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET A CAR TO IT.
BUT WE CAN'T STOP HER FROM HAVING THE GARAGE.
100% WHAT IT'S IS, HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE NOT, HOW CAN WE ALLEVIATE THE SUB, THE SUBSTANTIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO THE SIDE YARD AND, AND WHY DOES SHE NEED TO GO INTO THE SIDE YARD TO THAT? THAT'S IT.
WE HAVE, AS A BOARD PRECEDENT OF NOT ZEROING OUT, LOT LINES ARE, ARE CLOSE TO ZEROING OUT.
AND, AND IF MEMORY SERVE TOO, WE, WE PROBABLY EVEN ASK, UH, APPLICANTS TO REMOVE, UH, ASPHALT THAT THEY'VE LAID DOWN OUR, OUR PAVERS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO I DON'T SEE AHEAD, I MAKE, GO AHEAD, MAKE A DISTINCTION HERE.
AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WAY MY BRAIN IS TRUE.
IT IS A, IT IS A SIDE, AS OUR ORDINANCE GOES, IT'S A SIDE YARD, BUT AS THIS HOUSE IS SITUATED ON IT, IT'S A FRONT YARD.
THAT'S THE ENTRANCE TO THE HOUSE.
AND WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO DO IS TO REALLY, I THINK, MAXIMIZE GETTING TO THE HOUSE OR IN THE HOUSE, WHICH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM JUST PUTTING IN A GARAGE, I THINK.
HOW DOES SHE GET TO THE HOUSE NOW? SAME WAY.
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SO AGAIN, OKAY.AND IT'S A, IT'S A LARGE SIZE PROPERTY.
WELL, OBVIOUSLY THIS HOUSE WAS THERE BEFORE THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO IT WAS BUILT.
NOW IT IT, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
AND, AND I THINK THAT, UH, WHEN THE, WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS CHOPPED UP, THIS IS KIND OF HOW THINGS KIND OF FELL INTO PLACE BECAUSE CLEARLY THIS HOUSE IS MUCH OLDER THAN THE HOUSES AROUND IT.
NOW IS IS, IS THE, IS THE, IS THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S NEXT TO HERS, IS THAT ZEROED OUT? NO, NO, NOT AT ALL.
THAT'S RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON THE, ON THE LINE.
AND IF YOU NEED A LITTLE MORE HISTORY, WE CAN REMEMBER ON EVANDALE, UH, IT WAS A LARGER PROPERTY THAT IT WAS KNOCKED DOWN THE HOUSE, I THINK, WITH A THREE CAR GARAGE.
AND IT WAS MOVING OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE WHEN WE WERE IN THE OLD BUILDING, THE OLD TOWN HALL.
I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.
I'M NOT SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING CAPTAIN DID.
'CAUSE WE SAID, OH, THEY KNOCKED DOWN THE STRUCTURE NOW, AND NOW THEY WANTED TO MOVE THE DRIVEWAY OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE.
AND I MENTIONED EVANDALE FOR, FOR, FOR AS A TRIGGER.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
BUT WE'VE, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD, UM, PRECEDENCE FOR DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY POINT.
YOU KNOW, SO WHILE IT IS THE DRIVEWAY IS THE FOCUS, IF THE GARAGE IS NOT THERE, IF THE GARAGE IS NOT BUILT, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO EXPAND THAT DRIVEWAY.
RIGHT? WELL, I CAN'T, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
WELL, WELL, YES, BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO DRIVE TO THE GARAGE AND WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T PREVENT THE, THE HOMEOWNER FROM, FROM BUILDING THE GARAGE.
SO, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE H WHY WOULD YOU BUILD A DRIVEWAY IF YOU CAN'T I'M, I'M SORRY, A GARAGE IF YOU CAN'T ACCESS IT.
SO THE WHOLE I SO THE WHOLE IDEA, THAT'S WHY IT WAS RELEVANT AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.
WHETHER, WHETHER IT'S FOR A CAR, WHETHER IT'S FOR STORAGE, WHICH MOST OF OUR GARAGES ARE FOR STORAGE
BUT THEY'RE ALSO PUTTING LIKE A ROOM ON TOP OF IT SO IT'S NOT JUST A GARAGE.
THAT'S TRYING TO CONNECT TO THE HOUSE.
AND THERE'S GONNA BE A WHOLESALE FLOOR UP THERE, WHI WHICH, WHICH, WHICH AGAIN WILL GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, ALTHOUGH THAT'S JUST ONE FACTOR AND IT'S NOT THE SO FACTOR OF IT BEING SELF CREATED, THIS FIGURE THAT, OKAY, I BOUGHT THIS PLACE AND I HAD TWO GARAGE, BUT IT WAS CONVERTED AND IT, IT WAS LEGALLY CONVERTED.
SO NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GONNA COME BACK AND I HAVE THE SPACE TO GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT I WANT.
UM, WE MAKE THESE ANALYSIS ONTO THE F A R, BUT THIS DOESN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH F A R BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LARGE, UM, LOT SPACE.
I'M GONNA PUT IT AND I'M GONNA PUT A LIVING QUARTERS ABOVE THE GARAGE, AS YOU SAID.
THEN, UH, CHRISTIE, SO NOW HOW DO I GET ACCESS? YOU DON'T NEED ANY, YOU DON'T NEED THAT SIDE YARD ENCROACHMENT TO GO AHEAD AND GO UPSTAIRS THE GARAGE.
I'M, I'M, I'M PERPLEXED ABOUT WHY YOU'RE SO AMPED UP ABOUT THIS
OH NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I DON'T SEE THE DEAL WITH THIS.
THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE GONE TO ZERO OUT THE LOT LINE.
THIS IS LIKE A NICE, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER.
EVE WE, WE HAVEN'T THOUGH, HAVE WE? I CAN'T REMEMBER.
YES, WE HAVE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE.
UH, FOR, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I KNOW WE, I GUESS WE CAN, I GUESS WE CAN HAVE CAROL DIG UP A COUPLE OF THEM, BUT WE HAVE, I REMEMBER SOME, REMEMBER THE DRIVEWAY, UH, THE GUY, THE NEIGHBOR HATED HIM, DIDN'T WANT HIM TO STAND GOING FEET.
AND THEN HE CAME BACK AND HE COULDN'T MOVE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND, AND I THINK HE GRANTED IT AND HE HAD TO PUT A LITTLE SHRUBBERY BETWEEN IT.
REMEMBER THE GUY, THE NEIGHBOR WAS AGAINST HIM.
THEN SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD, UH, HAD WIDER DRIVEWAY, BUT NO.
SEE CAROL, I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT ONE.
I DO REMEMBER THOUGH, UM, YOU'RE GETTING MULTIFAMILY.
THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE I THOUGHT ON SPRING ROAD GETTING
YEAH, I PROBABLY, I PROBABLY, I PROBABLY, WE PROBABLY DECIDED THEN THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE ARE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA,
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YOU KNOW, UM, MOVE AWAY FROM THE PRECEDENT.WHAT I, WHAT COMES TO MIND IS THE MULTIFAMILY OR THE TWO FAMILY THAT WAS, UM, AND I SEE IT NOW, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS RENOVATED AND IT HAD MULTIPLE PARKING SPACE, BUT THEY WANTED TO MOVE OVER TO THE LOT LINE.
AND I BELIEVE WE DENIED THAT ONE.
AND I BELIEVE WE DENIED SOME ALSO IN COLLEGE CORNER.
BUT IF WE'VE CHANGED IT, CAROL, IN, IN THE ONE THAT YOU'RE TELLING ME NOW, AND, AND NOW OUR PRECEDENT IS TO, YOU KNOW, ZERO OUT THE LOT LINE, THEN I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
AND, AND ESPECIALLY NOW, THEN SINCE YOU KNOW, THE GARAGE, SHE DIDN'T CONVERT IT.
WELL, MAYBE WHOEVER WRITES THE DECISION CAN PUT IN THESE QUALIFYING FACTORS TO DIFFERENTIATE IT FROM OTHER DRIVEWAY.
THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAINLY, THERE'S CERTAINLY THAT HERE WITH THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PROPERTY, EVEN AS YOU SAID, IF THAT'S HER FRONT YARD, WE CERTAINLY CAN DISTINGUISH IT THAT WAY.
BUT AGAIN, IF WE'VE ALREADY MOVED PAST THIS PRECEDENT, THEN, THEN, UM, THEN I'LL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THIS.
DO WE WANT, BECAUSE NORMALLY WE DON'T GO AHEAD.
DO WE WANNA ASK THEM TO, UM, GIVE US, UH, OR HAVE OUR SECRETARY AS GIVE THEM OTHER PROPERTIES WHERE YOU'VE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAID? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT ALSO ON THE F A R CASES WHEN THEY'VE COME IN AND RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THEY'VE COME IN, THEY'VE COME IN FOR, UM, FOR SUBSTANTIAL REQUEST.
AND PROBABLY GOING FORWARD, IT PROBABLY WOULD BE GOOD, GOOD TO DO THIS.
'CAUSE UM, AS I SAID IN MY HEAD, I'M STILL FIGURING THAT, BOY, WE HAVEN'T REALLY ZEROED OUT LOT LINES, BUT IF WE HAVE, AND I'M FORGETTING THEN I WOULD'VE NO PROBLEM WITH GRANTING THIS TO BE CONSISTENT AND KEEP THE PRECEDENT.
WE CERTAINLY CAN CHANGE OUR PRECEDENT, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT.
AND I HOPE WE HAVE IT SO WE CAN GRANT THIS AND, YOU KNOW.
NO, I, I AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO DISTINGUISH IT, YOU KNOW, HELP HEAVILY, BUT I DO, DID THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE.
I, I REMEMBER IN COLLEGE CORNER, AND I'VE EVEN SAID IT RECENTLY AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS, NOT, NOT SINCE, UM, THESE ZOOM MEETINGS WE'VE BEEN HAVING, THAT WE'VE BEEN IN TOWN HALL AND, UM, THAT I'D SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE YOU'RE GONNA FIND CAROL, THAT BOY, WE HAVE TURNED DOWN, UM, ENCROACHING IN THE SIDE YARD FOR DRIVEWAYS BY ZEROING THEM OUT.
AND I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE WE HAD ALSO THAT WAS SAID WIFE, THAT PERSON HAD COME BEFORE US, RATHER THAN TRYING TO LEGALIZE IT, IF THEY HAD COME BEFORE US AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
WOULD WE HAVE GRANTED THAT WE, WHAT WE COULD DO IS STAFF IS, UM, PERHAPS RESEARCH THE THREE MOST RECENT, UH, DENIALS OF SIMILAR APPLICATIONS AND THE THREE MOST RECENT APPROVALS OF, UH, SIDE YARD, DRIVEWAY.
I STILL NEED MY DECISION ON, UM, MIKE BRIDGE.
OH, LET ME PRINT UP MY, LET ME WRITE MY THING HERE.
20 20 24, MADAM CHAIR, I WAS OFF BY ONE DAY.
ON THE, UH, DURGA, THE DATE OF THE APPROVED PLANS.
I, UH, AH, MISTAKENLY TOLD YOU 1112.
IF YOU PLEASE NOTE THAT AND I APPRECIATE IT.
LET ME, LET ME GET MY, UM, SEEKER, THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T THINK OF.
IF YOU HAVE ANY SECRET QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE APPLICATIONS, JUST PLEASE LET US KNOW.
SO THE SEEKER ON THE TEMPLE IS,
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THAT'S A TYPE TWO ACTION.TYPE TWO, NOT SUBJECT TO SEEKER.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SENT YOU.
I THINK I MIGHT'VE GIVEN YOU TYPE, UM, TYPE ONE.
I THINK I GAVE YOU THE RIGHT ONE IS THE OTHER TWO.
UM, GOING BACK TO JER, DO WE WANNA MAKE ANY REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT, UM, THERE'S A RELIGIOUS ACCOMMODATION OR NOT FROM THAT ONE? OH, I, UNLESS YOU, UNLESS YOU, UM, HAVE DIFFERENT THOUGHTS.
I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS U B IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WEIGHED THIS, LIKE EVERY OTHER APPLICATION'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S NECESSARY, BUT I MEAN, RIGHT.
I TRY TO THINK, I'M STILL LOOKING FOR MY HYBRID, THE SECRET I SENT YOU FOR THE TEMPLE.
LET'S SEE, WHEN DID YOU SEND THEM? I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MANY EMAILS I CAN GET IN FIVE MINUTES.
I BELIEVE I JUST SENT IT TO YOU AGAIN.
UM, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL FROM DEBBIE.
UH, COULD EVERYBODY JUST FORWARD THE EMAIL, THE DECISIONS TO ME? THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AFTER YOU DONE WELL, I'M, AND I'M FINDING MY BRIDGE.
'CAUSE I'M LOOKING UNDER YOUR NAME.
LIGHTBRIDGE UH, SEEKER WAS UNDERTAKEN BY THE PLANNING BOARD, SO, UH, OKAY.
NO, NO ACTION NEEDED THERE ON THAT, GARRETT.
I NORMALLY PUT DOWN THAT IT WAS GRANTED BY THE, IF IT WAS THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE DATE THAT IT WAS DONE.
I WAS LOOKING FOR THE DECISION ON, ON LIGHTBRIDGE.
NOT, I WAS, I WASN'T LOOKING FOR THE SECRET.
I THINK THAT CAME FROM, UH, ED, DIRECT ED.
I WAS LOOKING UNDER CAROL AS OPPOSED TO ED.
IT'S, AND WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED? I NEED THE, UH, THE PLAN DATE I GOT, OR DID I GET IT? THE LATEST PLAN ON LIGHTBRIDGE.
WE CAN, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S IN THE FILE.
RIGHT? WE'LL GET THAT DATE TO YOU THAT WE GOT.
YEAH, I THINK WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, SETBACK FOR THE PARKING WAS, UH, YEAH.
REFERENCED TO THREE SPACES AS OPPOSED TO FIVE.
AND, UM, THAT'S THE NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 4TH, I THINK.
UH, I'LL GO WITH THAT AND I'LL TELL YOU IF IT'S OTHERWISE.
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ALL RIGHT.GO GRAB MY STUFF AND BE RIGHT BACK.
UM, FACE, I WAS TRYING TO SHOW HIM EVE, SHE STEPPED AWAY FOR A MOMENT.
I LOOKED IT UP AND THEY, THE LETTER THEY SENT WITH THE REDUCED MARKING, UH, WAS NO, I RECEIVED, I'M SORRY.
I STEPPED AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER.
UH, YOU HAVE AN UPDATED DATE ON THAT PLAN, CAROL? YES.
OH, THEN WHY DO I HAVE THE FOURTH STAMPED? OH, THE DATE OF THE PLAN IS THAT, THAT'S OKAY.
AND EVERY, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO CHANGE ON HERE EXCEPT THE, THE FIVE IS THREE AND THAT'S IN NUMBER THREE AND IT'S IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.
DO YOU WANT ME TO FORWARD YOU THE CORRECTED? UM, NO, I MADE THE TWO CHANGES TO IT AND FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THE FINDINGS AND THEN IN NUMBER THREE, THAT'S IT.
IT'S ALSO, IT'S, IT'S TWO TIMES IN NUMBER THREE.
CAROL, I'LL FORWARD YOU TO FORWARD TO DEBBIE THE TWO DRAFTS.
AND ED, YOU ALSO FLOATING HER, UH, THE TEMPLE.
THE ONLY THING I DON'T HAVE, CAROL, THAT YOU HAVE TO FILL IN IS THE DATES OF THE PLANS.
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AND ANTHONY, I HAD UH, SENT YOU AN EMAIL.
I NEEDED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, BUT YOU DIDN'T GET BACK TO ME, SO I ASSUME YOU'VE BEEN AWAY.
IF YOU GET A CHANCE, MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE ME A CALL.
HOW ARE WE DOING FOLKS? A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
ROL, I JUST SENT THEM OUT OFF TO YOU AND THEY, I WAS JUST DISCONNECTED FROM THE SERVER, I GUESS 'CAUSE IT'S LATE.
YOU'LL HAVE 'EM, YOU'LL HAVE 'EM BY TOMORROW.
I CAN, YOU CAN SEND 'EM OFF JUST TO FORWARD THEM TO DEBBIE.
'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE HER, UM, EMAIL.
WELL, I WANT CAROL TO JUST CHECK, CHECK OVER THE DATES AND EVERYTHING.
UH, SO THIS, SO I'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN GET YOU ALL CAKE FOR THE HOLIDAYS.
YOU'LL, YOU'LL, YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET IT THERE.
SO IT'S REALLY A 8% APPROXIMATE, APPROXIMATELY 8%.
THOUGHT IT WAS EIGHT POINT SOMETHING SMALL.
PROVIDED BY 67, THIS ONE IS SUBSTANTIAL.
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OH, NO.WHERE AM I GOING? UM, IT'S GOING FROM 30%, 30 TO 3%.
APPROXIMATELY 3% PERCENT FROM 8%.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, I KNOW YOU'RE ALL WORKING DILIGENTLY HERE, AND, UM, I DON'T FORESEE US GOING TOO LONG, BUT I DO HAVE A, UM, CONFLICT.
I I'M HOSTING A COMMUNITY MEETING AT SEVEN 30, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, UM, DO YOU THINK WE WOULD FINISH, IF WE COULD HAVE A GOAL OF FINISHING BY SEVEN 10, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EXPEDITED READING OF THE, THE, THE DECISIONS, UM, TO FACILITATE THAT, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU.
UM, BUT JUST, JUST A CONSIDERATION OTHERWISE, UM, DON'T FEEL RUSHED.
I CAN DO A LAPTOP AND DO MY PRESENTATION LATER.
AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN READ EVERYTHING AS YOU WOULD HAVE TO, BUT, UH, I JUST WANTED TO TOSS THAT OUT THERE.
IT'S, IT'S IDEAL IF I, IF WE'RE DONE BY SEVEN 15 ISH YEAH.
MAY MAYBE WE CAN DISPENSE WITH THE READING OF THE DECISIONS AND JUST TO PUT IT IN THE RECORD AND LET PEOPLE CONTACT, UH, CAROL WHEN THEY'RE DONE.
OR CAROL CAN RELEASE THEM WHEN TO WHOEVER IT IS THAT SHE RELEASES THEM TO.
OH, SO PERMITTED, UH, DECREASE.
WELL, YOU CERTAINLY GOT THEIR ATTENTION, GARRETT
DON'T LISTEN TO THAT TROUBLEMAKER.
I HAVE TWO SCREENS, BUT I CAN'T DO, UH, TWO ZOOMS AT ONCE.
SO DO YOU WANNA JUST START AND THEN WE CAN JUST FINISH UP INCREASE, OR YOU HAVE TO ASK 10%.
YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST GRABBING THE NUMBERS.
I'LL, I'LL, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT NOW.
WE'RE JUST GONNA DO THE MOTION.
SEE, UH, ALL J J YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ALL SET TO GO AND, UM, PRESS IT.
UH, AND OUR FIRST CASE OF THE EVENING, NOW THAT WE ARE BACK FROM OUR DELIBERATIONS WITH THE RESULTS CASE IS 2014 LIGHTBRIDGE ACADEMY.
AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE-REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO SECRET COMPLIANCE AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG PLANNING BOARD AS LEAD AGENCY CONDUCTED A COORDINATED REVIEW AND DETERMINED THAT THE SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A TYPE ONE ACTION AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG TOWN BOARD HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED ACTION WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND ISSUED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION ON OCTOBER 7TH, 2020.
AND I MOVE THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE NUMBER 2014 BE GRANTED PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT WILL
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OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE, SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGAN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATED NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020, SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION THAT THE VARIANCES BEING GRANTED ARE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN ON THE PLAN SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION.
ONLY ANY FUTURE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK, OR OTHER VARIANCES WE HAVE APPROVED HEREIN.
AND LASTLY, THE VARIANCES ARE FURTHER CONDITIONED ON THE APPLICANT RESTRICTING ENROLLMENT TO 105 CHILDREN.
SHOULD THE PLANNING BOARD GRANT PERMISSION TO THE APPLICANT TO INCREASE ENROLLMENT BEYOND SUCH AMOUNT? APPLICANT MUST RETURN TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO OBTAIN FURTHER VARIANCES FROM OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT MAY BE REQUIRED BY SUCH INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT.
I AM ASKING FOR A SECOND AT THIS POINT.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE FINDINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TIME AND OTHER MEETINGS.
UM, HOWEVER THAT FINDINGS WILL BE IN THE RECORD AND THEY WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE APPLICANTS AND TO ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SEE THEM.
AND THEY SHOULD CONTACT CONTACT, THEY SHOULD CONTACT CAROL WALKER, THE SECRETARY.
AND THE NEXT CASE IS CASE 2022.
SAWMILL STONE AND MASONRY SUPPLY.
AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO C A COMPLIANCE AND WHEREAS, UH, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT'S THE DECISION ONLY.
I BELIEVE THAT'S CLOSED FOR DECISION ONLY.
OH, I'M, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT DECISION ONLY.
AND THAT WILL BE ON FOR THE DECEMBER 17TH MEETING.
AND, AND NEXT WE HAVE CASE 2023 DURER TEMPLE OF WESTCHESTER.
AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE-REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO SECRET COMPLIANCE AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS DETERMINED THE APPLICATION WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A TYPE TWO ACTION REQUIRING NO FURTHER SECRET CONSIDERATION.
AND THE CHAIR ALSO MOVES THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE 2023 BE GRANTED PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT WILL OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE.
SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGAN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATED NOVEMBER 11TH, 2020 SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION, THE VARIANCES BEING GRANTED ARE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT SHOWN ON THE PLAN SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION.
ANY FUTURE OR ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK, OR OTHER VARIANCES WE HAVE APPROVED HEREIN.
AND AGAIN, I WILL WAIVE READING OF THE FINDINGS TONIGHT.
HOWEVER, AS WE SAID, THEY WILL BE IN THE RECORD AND MADE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SEE THEM AND CAN CONTACT THE SECRETARY, MS. WALKER.
AND THE NEXT CASE WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA TODAY IS CASE 2024.
STEPHANIE WANG AND ZHANG DWELL WHERE THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE-REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO C A COMPLIANCE.
AND WHEREAS THE GREEN BEBERG C B A HAS DETERMINED THE APPLICATION WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT NOW, THEREFORE IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A TYPE TWO ACTION REQUIRING NO FURTHER SECRET CONSIDERATION.
UM, I MOVE THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE NUMBER 2024 BE GRANTED PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT WILL OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE, SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGIN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATED OCTOBER 1ST, 2020 SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION, THE VARIANCES BEING
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GRANTED ARE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN ON THE PLANS SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION.ONLY ANY FUTURE OR ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK, OR OTHER VARIANCES WE HAVE APPROVED HEREIN.
AND AGAIN, WE WILL WAIVE A READING OF THE FINDINGS AND SAME APPLIES FOR THEIR AVAILABILITY THAT I'VE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.
AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE.
WE HAVE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WHICH IS CASE NOT LAST CASE, I'M SORRY, WHICH IS CASE 2025.
UH, SYLVIA EMMER AND DANIEL MARLO PROPERTY AT 1 0 2 EDGEMONT ROAD AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE-REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO SECRET COMPLIANCE AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS DETERMINED THE APPLICATION WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A TYPE TWO ACTION REQUIRE NO FURTHER SECRET CONSIDERATION.
AND DO I HAVE A MOTION? I YOU ROWAN, SORRY.
OKAY, I MOVED THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE NUMBER 2024 BE GRANTED PROVIDED THAT 2025, OH SEE, I'M 2025.
PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT OBTAINS ALL NECESSARY, I'M SORRY, I'LL START OVER.
I MOVED THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE NUMBER 2025 BE GRANTED PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE, SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
CONSTRUCTION SHALL BEGIN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER AND CONFORM ME WITH THE PLANS DATED JULY 28TH, 2020 AND DATE STAMPED BY THE ZONING AND BOARD OF APPEALS OCTOBER 16TH, 2020 SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION OR AS SUCH, PLANS MAY BE HEREAFTER MODIFIED BY ANOTHER APPROVING BOARD OF AGENCY OR OFFICER OF THE TOWN.
PROVIDED THAT SUCH MODIFICATIONS SUCH, I'M SORRY, SUCH MODIFICATION DOES NOT REQUIRE A DIFFERENT OR GREATER VARIANCE THAN WHAT WE ARE GRANTING HEREIN.
THE VARIANCE BEING GRANTED ARE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN ON THE PLAN SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION ONLY AND FUTURE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORM TO WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE I SETBACK ARE THE VARIANCE WE HAVE APPROVED HEREIN.
SECOND? NO, MR. HARRISON, MY, UH, NOTES SHOW THAT THE, THERE WERE PLANS SUBMITTED ON NOVEMBER THE NINTH OF THIS YEAR.
IF WE COULD CHECK WITH MS. WALKER, SHE'S STILL HERE TO SEE IF THAT'S OKAY.
NOW I'M, I'M HERE BUT UNFORTUNATELY LOOKED SHUT DOWN.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE'LL GO WITH THAT.
I LOOKED AT THE REVISION, UM, THE ONE I HAVE SAID IT WAS, UH, ON THE REVISION NOTE, SEVEN JULY 28TH, 2020.
AND THE DATE STAMP IS OCTOBER 16TH, 2020.
BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY, UM, CHANGE THE DATE ON IT.
I I'M VERIFYING THAT AS WE SPEAK.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE I GOT THAT FROM, BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
WELL I'M, LOOK, I HAVE MARCH 12TH.
MARCH 12TH REVISED ON JULY 20.
AT LEAST WE GOT IT STRAIGHT NOW.
CAN WE HAVE THE SECOND? SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
AND AGAIN, WE WILL WAIVE A READING OF THE FINDINGS AND MAKE THEM AVAILABLE.
UM, AND NOW OUR LAST CASE THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS CASE 2026.
AND THAT IS ADJOURNED FOR ALL PURPOSES TO THE MEETING OF DECEMBER 17TH.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER BUSINESS TONIGHT? ANYONE? I'M SORRY IF I COULD, UH, THAT LAST
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ONE.THAT WAS 1 0 2 EDGEMONT ROAD, CORRECT? YES.
UH, I DID NOT SPEAK, LET'S PRETEND I JUST DID NOT SPEAK
THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S ADJOURNED FOR ALL PURPOSES.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, OTHER THAN US PREPARING FOR OUR UNUSUAL HOLIDAY FEAST THIS YEAR, DOES ANYONE WANNA HAVE ANY COMMENTS AND WELL WISHES FOR EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND FOR US AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING TOGETHER WELL, THE TOWN IS.
THANKFUL FOR ALL YOUR RESPECTIVE SERVICES.
AND JUST WANNA WISH EVERYBODY AND THEIR FAMILY'S HAPPY, HEALTHY HOLIDAY SEASON.
AND CHRISTIE, BEFORE WE LEAVE, I HAVE TO ASK YOU, WHAT IS IN THAT PICTURE BEHIND YOU? THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SIDEWAYS.
IT'S LIKE, YEAH, LIKE A, IT'S AN INSULA, IT'S BOX THAT GO OUT ONTO A DOCK, INTO A OCEAN OR SOMETHING.
LIKE A BUNCH OF ROCKS OVER THERE, RIGHT? THAT LONG PART.
A WOODED WALKWAY OUT INTO THE OCEAN.
I GUESS YOU JUST WALK INTO THE OCEAN.
LOOKS LIKE A CANNON OR SOMETHING.
I'M GONNA FAINT WHAT? WE'RE ALL SET.