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WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION.THEN WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW IT UP WITH THE TOWN BOARD, UH, MEETING.
TODAY IS NOVEMBER, UH, 24TH AT 6:08 PM AND, UM, WE'RE READY TO START OUR MEETING.
UM, FIRST ON THE AGENDA, UH, WE'LL HAVE, UH, THE POLICE CHIEF DISCUSS, UM, THE SNOW ORDINANCE.
OUR CHIEF, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS, UH, THE DRONE AND CAPTAIN VALENTINE.
WE COULD HAVE THE, THE, THAT GOES GREAT.
AND, UH, OKAY, LET'S HAVE, RIGHT, THEY COULD DO BOTH GOOD CHIEF AND HIS THANK KEVIN PRESIDENT, BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE TO HANG AROUND FOR THOSE.
I'VE ASKED CAPTAIN VALENTINE TO, TO GIVE SOME OF THE, UH, UM, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT LAST, SO, UM, DAN, UM, SURE.
UM, SO THE QUESTION I GUESS IS THE, UH, THE DRONE ITSELF AND THE REPAIR.
UM, SO THE, I JUST GET RIGHT DOWN TO IT.
IT'S, IT'S CHEAPER TO REPAIR THE DRONE THAN IT IS TO PURCHASE A NEW ONE.
THE CAMERA EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE ON OUR DRONE, UH, TO PURCHASE A REPLACEMENT DRONE WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $13,000.
UM, THE REPAIR IS ABOUT 4,500, AND THE WARRANTY ON THE PARTS IS THE SAME.
IF WE BOUGHT A NEW DRONE, UM, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A CAR.
SO YOU BUY A CAR AND UNLESS THERE'S A RECALL ON A PART, IF YOU CRASH THAT CAR, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
SO, UM, THERE IS SOME, UH, INSURANCE OPTIONS FOR US, BUT I THINK THE, THE MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE THING WOULD JUST BE TO, UH, TO MAKE THE REPAIRS.
ALRIGHT, SO IT'S REALLY THE CAMERA THAT NEEDS IS.
YEAH, WE HAVE A, UH, NORMALLY WHEN YOU HAVE AN OLDER ELECTRONICS, IT MAKES SENSE TO JUST REPLACE IT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE CAMERA, IT MAKES SENSE TO THE CAMERA.
THE, THE CAMERA, ONE OF THE CAMERAS WE HAVE IS A, A THERMAL IMAGING CAMERA T.
SO ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE A LOST PERSON IN THE WOODS, UH, SO FROM DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS, WE CAN SEE, SEE A LOT EASIER.
SO TO KEEP THAT CAMERA, WHICH IS AN EXPENSIVE CAMERA AND MOUNT IT ON ANOTHER DRONE, UH, THAT DRONE'S GONNA BE ABOUT 13,000, UM, BECAUSE THEY'VE DISCONTINUED OUR MODEL DRONE AND NOW THEY'RE SELLING THE UP VERSION.
SO, UH, I, I THINK TO CONTINUE WITH OUR OPERATION, IT'S, UH, MOST COST EFFECTIVE TO JUST REPAIR IT.
UH, WITH, WITH, IT'S OBVIOUSLY OVER 249 GRAMS. AND YOU MAY KNOW THAT THERE ARE NEW REGULATIONS OUT FROM THE F C C F A A RATHER, UM, THAT STATES THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PILOT'S LICENSE.
I'M SURE IT'S NOT FOR JET, BUT IT'S SORT OF DRAWN.
UH, WILL SOMEBODY, UH, BE TAKING THAT TRAINING OR PROBABLY EXEMPT BECAUSE THEY'RE MUNICIPALITY OR, OR POLICE DEPARTMENT? UH, GREAT QUESTION.
UH, WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST, UH, POLICE AGENCIES IN WESTCHESTER TO HAVE CERTIFIED PILOTS, UH, WITH OUR DRONE PROGRAM.
SO WE MEET ALL THE F A A REGULATIONS.
UH, ALL OF OUR AIRCRAFT ARE REGISTERED WITH THE F A A ANYTIME WE USE THEM FOR TRAINING OR FOR OPERATION PURPOSE AT THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY AIRPORT.
UH, AREAS WHERE OUR SCENES MAY BE ARE ACTUALLY CERTIFIED F A A PILOTS, SO WE HAVE FOUR OF THEM RIGHT NOW.
AND BECAUSE WE'RE A MUNICIPALITY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT CERTIFICATION AS A COMMERCIAL USER, WHEREAS YOU COULD BE A HOBBYIST AND FLY A DRONE ALL DAY, BUT ONCE YOU COME AND PUT A, A POLICE UNIFORM ON, WE'RE A FIREFIGHTER UNIFORM, YOU NOW HAVE TO MEET THOSE OTHER STANDARDS.
SO WE WE'RE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
SO, SO YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH THAT THEN, RIGHT? I AGREE.
OKAY, NEXT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, CHIEF, DO YOU WANT TO GO ALL OVER WITH THE BOARD, UM, THE, UH, SPECIAL PERMIT IN REQUIREMENTS FOR THE, UH, MRS. SNOW ORDINANCE? YES, I WILL.
UM, WHAT I HAVE HERE, I'M GONNA JUST READ MY PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO SUBSECTION 4 60 20 OF THE TOWN CODE.
AND MY PROPOSAL IS TO READ AS FOLLOWS.
NO PERSON EXCEPT A PERSON THAT HAS BEEN GRANTED A HARDSHIP EXEMPTION BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE SHALL PARK A VEHICLE FROM DECEMBER 1ST TO MARCH 15TH ON ANY PUBLIC HIGHWAY BETWEEN THE HOURS
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OF 1:00 AM TO 6:00 AM EXCEPT ON EAST HEART SALE AVENUE AND THE STREET SPECIFIED IN SCHEDULE 15 OF SECTION 4 60 64 ATTACHED AND MADE PART OF THIS CHAPTER, WHICH HAVE DIFFERENCE IN PARKING REGULATIONS.SECTION B PERSONS THAT MEET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA MAY APPLY TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR A HARDSHIP EXEMPTION IF THEY MEET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA, RESIDENT OF THE DESIGNATED PREMISES AND NO DRIVEWAY OR PARKING AREA IS AVAILABLE FREE OR FOR RENT ON THE PREMISES.
AND THERE IS NO AREA ON THE PREMISES WHERE A DRIVEWAY OR PARKING AREA CAN BE PROVIDED OR CONSTRUCTED BY THE OWNER.
NUMBER TWO, A DRIVEWAY OR PARKING AREA EXISTS ON THE RESIDENCE'S PREMISES, BUT DUE TO THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ENTITLED TO PARK ON THE PREMISES, THERE IS NO ROOM TO PARK THE APPLICANT'S VEHICLE AND THERE IS NO AREA ON THE PREMISES WHERE ADDITIONAL PARKING CAN BE PROVIDED OR CONSTRUCTED OR CONSTRUCTED BY THE OWNER.
NUMBER THREE, THE RESIDENT IS PHYSICALLY HANDICAPPED AND POSSESSES EITHER A HANDICAPPED PARKING PERMIT AUTHORIZED BY LAW OR VEHICLE DISPLAYED HANDICAPPED LICENSE PLATES, AND THE RESIDENT'S HANDICAPPED PREVENTS HIM OR HER FROM WALKING FROM A DESIGNATED OFF STREET PARKING AREA TO THE PREMISES.
NUMBER FOUR, THE RESIDENT IS REQUIRED IN WRITING BY HIS OR HER EMPLOYER TO HAVE A COMPANY VEHICLE, AND THERE IS NO OFF STREET PARKING PROVIDED OR AVAILABLE FOR SUCH VEHICLE ON THE PREMISES.
NUMBER FIVE, THE RESIDENT IS A TEMPORARY OCCUPANT DUE TO STATUS AS EITHER A STUDENT, EMPLOYEE, RESIDENT, ET CETERA, AND PARKING IS NOT AVAILABLE ON THE PREMISES FREE OR FOR RENT AND OR THERE ARE ALREADY VEHICLES PARKING ON THE PREMISES LEAVING NO ROOM FOR THE RESIDENT'S VEHICLE.
NUMBER SIX, THE RESIDENT, BY VIRTUE OF HIS OR HER TRADE, EMPLOYMENT, OR SPECIAL TRAINING, IS DETERMINED TO BE NECESSARY FOR EMERGENCIES OR LIFE SUPPORT SERVICES.
I E POLICE, FIRE AMBULANCE, E M T, NURSE, DOCTOR, ET CETERA, WHOSE VEHICLE MUST HAVE IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC HIGHWAYS AND NO SUCH AS ACCESS EXISTS ON THE PREMISES.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE VEHICLES COMMERCIALLY REGISTERED OR PRIMARILY USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
IT IS SUBJECT TO SITE INSPECTION.
MOVING ON TO SECTION C, IT SHALL BE ILLEGAL FOR ANY PERSON THAT IS GRANTED A HARDSHIP EXEMPTION TO PARK A VEHICLE ON A STREET DURING THE DURATION OF A DECLARED SNOW.
FAILURE TO REMOVE A VEHICLE FROM THE PUBLIC ROADWAY DURING A DECLARED SNOW EMERGENCY SHALL RESULT IN THE REVOCATION SAID HARDSHIP EXEMPTION.
SECTION E THE APPLICATION FOR THE HARDSHIP EXEMPTION SHALL BE COMPLETE, SHALL INCLUDE A DESIGNATED AREA WHERE EXEMPTION WILL BE PARKED DURING A DECLARED SNOW EMERGENCY.
SECTION F A NON-REFUNDABLE $25 APPLICATION FEE SHALL APPLY FOR EACH VEHICLE.
A HARDSHIP EXEMPTION IS REQUESTED.
SECTION G, IF A HARDSHIP EXEMPTION IS GRANTED, IT SHALL ONLY BE GRANTED FOR THE ADDRESS ON THE APPLICATION AND WILL ONLY ALLOW PARKING ON THE APPLICANT'S STREET IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE RESIDENCE.
SECTION H ALL HARDSHIP EXEMPTION APPLICANTS THAT ARE APPROVED THAT WE ISSUED A STICKER THAT MUST BE DISPLAYED ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE REAR PASSENGER WINDOW SECTION I ALL HARDSHIP EXEMPTIONS SHALL EXPIRE ON MARCH 16TH.
SECTION J APPLICATIONS APPLICANTS THAT ARE GRANTED GRANTED A HARDSHIP EXEMPTION ARE REQUIRED TO REMOVE THEIR VEHICLE FROM THE PUBLIC ROADWAY DURING DECLARED SNOW.
EMERGENCY FAILURE TO REMOVE SAID VEHICLE SHALL RESULT IN A FINE OF $250 FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE AND $500 FOR EACH SUBSEQUENT VIOLATION.
AND UNLESS PERMANENTLY ADOPTED OR RESCINDED IN SECTION 4 60 20, THERE'S NO PARKING HARDSHIP EXEMPTION REGULATIONS WILL EXPIRE ON APRIL 30TH, 2020.
SO THIS HAS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, UH, SUNSET CLAUSE IN IT, IT, AND THE REST OF THE PROPOSED LOG SPEAKS TO, UM, THE EXPIRATION AND WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY RESCIND THAT WALL IF NEEDED.
LEVI, YOU JUST SAID EXPIRED APRIL, 2020, DIDN'T IT BE 2021? I THOUGHT I SAID 2022.
I THOUGHT IT SOUNDED, MAYBE IT JUST DROPPED AND IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE, IN WRITING ON, ON WHAT YOU'RE READING FROM, IT SAYS 2022.
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OKAY, THANK YOU.IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULTY READING THIS.
I GOTTA, I HAVE TO TRY TO BLOW IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
BUT WE COULD ALWAYS, UM, AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IF WE TRY AND AFTER IT FIRST NO STORM, IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN WE JUST WELL, THAT, THAT'S TRUE PAUL, I JUST WAS WONDERING WHETHER IT WAS A TYPO OR SOMETHING WAS YEAH, YEAH, NO, I JUST WANNA MENTION, YOU KNOW, I THINK CHIEF DID A REALLY GOOD JOB AND I THINK THAT THIS, IT WILL WORK, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO FEEL THAT IT'S NOT GONNA SHOULD LET THEM KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, IT DOESN'T WORK.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE BE STUCK WITH IT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LIFE OF THIS YOU PROPOSAL.
BUT I DO THINK IT'LL WORK AND I THINK THAT'LL DEFINITELY ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, SOME RESIDENTS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, WORRY EVERY TIME'S DECEMBER 1ST BE.
ANYBODY, UH, FRANCIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR? I DO, BUT I'M THEN YOU MENTIONED THE GENERAL, ANY, ANY COMMENTS THAT WE SHOULD RECEIVE? OKAY, GREAT.
WHERE,
UH, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO TRY IT OUT.
I PERSONALLY WOULD THINK BETTER TRY IT OUT FOR ONE YEAR AND THEN BACK IT AFTER ONE YEAR, UM, TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S, I THINK IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF MERIT TO, THERE IS A DEFINITE EXPOSURE OF THAT VEHICLE TO BEING DAMAGED BECAUSE THE CAN BE LOCKED, UH, PAY FOR ANY DAMAGE TO THAT CAR VEHICLE LIGHTS ON OPERATION MEANS THAT ANY DAMAGE I THINK PROBABLY SHOULD BE ADDED.
UM, STATING THAT NOT ONLY THE HARDSHIP EXEMPTION
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AND ALSO WE SLIGHTLY SHOULD BE CONSISTENT IN HOW THIS ONES POST ON EVERY AREA THE TOWN WOULD BE AFFECTED.AND THE WAY THIS IS, YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.
AND THAT'S NOT, WE DO, I THINK THAT EAST, BUT I, I AGREE WITH THE, THE CONCEPT, IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S A PROCESS THAT HAS TO BE, HAS TO FOLLOWED OR TO GET THIS INTO OUR ACTUAL CODE.
THE FACT THAT WE JUST SO DOESN'T MAKE IT GO INTO THE GENERAL CODE.
YOU KNOW, ON FRIDAY, ON FRIDAY WHEN I SUBMITTED IT, I DID, UM, COPY TIM ON THAT BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THERE WERE ISSUES THAT, THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED, FRANCIS, WITH RESPECT TO THE DEFINITION SECTION THAT THAT EXISTED.
SO AS FAR AS THE FORMATTING INTO THE LAW, I KNEW THAT THAT HAD TO BE DONE.
UM, AND, AND A REQUIREMENT, WE JUST, TO THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION, WE JUST ADDED NEXT DOOR TO WHAT THE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE NOTICE REQUIREMENT WAS.
I, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT, BUT, UM, WE'RE STILL GONNA DO IT ON ALL OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE'RE GONNA DO IT ON OUR SNOW EMERGENCY HOTLINE AND WE'RE GONNA PUT UP THE VARIABLE MESSAGE BOARDS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO COVER ALL THE COMMUNITIES IN THE TOWN THAT WE'RE GONNA DO IT AT STRATEGICALLY, UM, STRATEGIC LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
UH, CHIEF DON'T WE HAVE THE ABILITY, UH, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY GIVES YOU, UH, THEIR EMAIL, UH, OR UH, THEIR PHONE NUMBERS, CAN'T WE, UH, PLUG THOSE NUMBERS IN THE SYSTEM AND THEN JUST DO A ROLL, ROLL CALL OR AN EMAIL DESK JUST TO THOSE SOME PEOPLE, BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THAT FOR EAST HARSDALE AVENUE WE HAVE A DIGITAL SIGN BOARD.
UM, SO EVERYBODY PASSES THE SIGN BOARD SO IT'S EASY TO COMMUNICATE.
IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ON EAST EASTON ROAD OR UM, OR UH, UM, WOOD HAMPTON OR UM, NORTH ROAD, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE TWO PEOPLE ON ONE STREET, YOU KNOW, ON ADAMS THERE MAY BE ONE PERSON, YOU KNOW.
SO THEY, FIRST OF ALL, NOT EVERYBODY GETS GUESS THE EASIEST WAY.
WE NEVER TOW THE CAR, ATTEMPT AN EMAIL AFTER THE PHONE CALL WITH US, THEN IT'S THEIR PROBLEM.
SO TO BE UPDATED TO THE NEW WEBSITE AFTER RIF.
BUT THAT'S GONNA BE PART WE GATHER FROM THE APPLICATION EMAIL AND THEIR PHONE NUMBER.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL TEXT FROM THAT CODE.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU THINK WILL THERE, IF YOU WERE TO TRY TO USE THE UM, OR SENTENCE SUPPORT OF IT TO TRY TO GAIN? I WOULD SAY PROBABLY, UM, UNDER 200.
SO IT'S A VERY
WHAT ABOUT, UM, ARE YOU GONNA, WELL, THE PERMANENT NON-REFUNDABLE FEE FEE AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THE APPLICATION AND THE, UM, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT PEOPLE WILL READ THE LAW AND THEY'LL READ THE APPLICATION AND THEY WON'T APPLY UNLESS THEY FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY.
AND ALSO PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA SPEND 25 DOWN.
WHEN DO YOU THINK BE ABLE TO, UM, ABLE, YOU KNOW, GET THE STICKERS AND YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE? SO IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS BEING APPROVED, WE ORDERED STICKERS, WE APPROVED THE PROOF.
SO IF WE GET A GREEN LIGHT FOR TOMORROW, WE'RE TOLD THAT WE'LL HAVE THE STICKERS DECEMBER 3RD.
THAT'S THE EARLIEST THEY COULD GET THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL GIVE US SOME TIME.
IF IT'S APPROVED, PEOPLE WILL GET THE APPLICATION,
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FILL IT OUT, THEY'LL GET IT BACK TO US.SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER 3RD IS EARLY ENOUGH FOR THE STICKERS.
AND COULD THE APPLICATION BE ONLINE? YES, WE'RE GONNA PUT IT ONLINE ONCE IT'S APPROVED.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT I'LL DO IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ASK JOEL EY TO PUT IT LIKE ON THE HOMEPAGE, THE SAME, YOU KNOW, THE SAME COMMON LOCATION, UM, THAT WE HAVE WHERE WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTION WHERE PEOPLE SEE, BECAUSE THE WAY THIS THING READ, WE SHALL, AND ALL SOMEBODY HAS TO DO IS THEY ONE DIDN'T GO THROUGH.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE, WE DO ALL THESE OTHER THINGS HOME ON WEBSITE, ANYBODY, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEBODY NOT HAVING ACCESS TO THE HOME, BUT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO STORE ON TWITTER, THEY STILL HAVE COMPUTER.
BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY, YEAH, I THINK IT, THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.
IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA, BASICALLY.
IT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE BASICALLY IT MAKES IT VERY SIMPLE.
AND THE THING IS, WE COULD DO EVERYTHING THAT THE CHIEF SAID AND MORE, BUT THIS WAY IF SOMEBODY WE FORGET AT ONE POINT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE, THE MINIMUM WE SHOULD SAY IS WE WILL POST IT ON, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE TOWN WEBSITE AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL DO MUCH WORK.
THERE'LL BE A CALL ACROSS THE, THERE'S NO EMERGENCY.
WE'RE NOT GONNA SAY SOMEBODY BEFORE BED AT NIGHT.
IT'S NOT, NOT THE, WE HAVE JUST IN RESPONSE TO DIANA, I DO, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS PRETTY SOLID.
WE HAVE
SO HAVE, UH, TODAY THE
SO I THINK THEY'RE REALLY, I THINK THEY'RE IN FORM TO BE A DOCTOR.
YEAH, IT, I SAY SUNDAY EMAIL TO THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, MONDAY, 1241 SAID SOMETHING MONDAY AT 5:56 PM IT WAS TODAY AT 12:41 PM WELL, I'LL SEND YOU WHAT I HAVE.
BUT ANYWAY, WE, WE CAN MARK THAT.
OKAY, BECAUSE MY FOCUS TODAY WAS TRYING TO GET THE, UM, GET THE PARKING.
WE STILL HAVE TO THAT PROCESS.
SO WHY DON'T WE ACTUALLY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHAT THE PERSONALITY NEEDS.
AND AS WE GO THROUGH THE, WE CAN ACTUALLY, UM, IT'S EXECUTIVE SESSION,
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UH, SEVERAL, SEVERAL DIFFERENT OKAY.WHERE I, AND SO WE'LL BE BACK FOR REGULAR, BE A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE OR THE SAME.