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OF THE TOWN BOARD, AND, UM, COULD YOU PULL UP THE AGENDA? UH, SURE.I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M SHARING,
WELL, LET ME JUST SEE IF I CAN, I'LL WROTE IT.
JUST STILL SET UP FOR THE BREAKER ROOM.
SO NEXT WE HAVE, UM, UM, THE LEAFBLOWER LAW.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM JERRY BYRNE AND, UM, AND RICH FUND RELATING TO, UM, POSSIBLE, UH, YOU KNOW, COMPROMISES JERRY RICH.
UM, I, I WOULD SUGGEST WE TURN IT OVER TO, UH, MIKE SIEGEL AND TERRY.
TORI, AND THEN GIVE A, UH, SYNOPSIS OF WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO.
JUST BE ABLE TO BE WITH US TONIGHT.
BUSY DOING OTHER THINGS FOR THE TOWN.
UM, WE MET WITH THE STAFF OF D P W IN PARKS AND REC, AND I THINK WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL MEETING.
I THINK THERE WAS A REAL EXCHANGE OF IDEAS AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT REALLY WERE THE PROBLEMS. AND, UM, WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT, UM, THEY MADE A COMPELLING, UM, CASE FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF ACTIVITIES THAT THEY REALLY HAVE TO DO BECAUSE THEY ARE PARITY.
THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE BASICALLY MAINTAINING ROADS.
SO THERE'S AN ISSUE OF PUBLIC SAFETY INVOLVED.
AND I FOUND MY FEELING COMING OUT OF THE MEETING WAS THAT WE REALLY HAD REACHED A POINT WHERE I HOPED THAT IT GETS CONFIRMED TONIGHT, THAT WE CAME UP WITH WHAT WE FELT WERE, UM, AN EXPRESSION THAT WOULD MEET THE NEEDS OF BOTH DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO MEET THE NEEDS OF TRYING TO CRAFT A LAW.
AND I THINK THE TOWN BOARD DID RECEIVE A, UM, RECOMMENDATION ON, UM, A KIND OF A, A REEDIT OF WHAT YOU HAD RECEIVED ORIGINALLY.
AND THE DIFFERENCE NOW IS REALLY IN THE, UM, EXCEPTIONS IN THAT SEA IS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE ITS OPERATIONS AFFECT PUBLIC SAFETY ON ROADWAYS, SIDEWALKS, AND ROAD ISLANDS, AND D DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION FOR ACTIVITIES AFFECTING PUBLIC SAFETY ON PARK ROADWAYS, PARK WALKWAYS, AND ROAD ISLANDS.
AND UPON THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE COMMISSIONER OF PARKS AND RECREATION RECORDED IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT LOG FOR EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES SUCH AS THE SPECIAL EVENTS ON PUBLIC PARKS, EQUIPMENT MALFUNCTIONS, EQUIPMENT SHORTAGES, PERSONNEL SHORTAGES, UM, I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE DO THIS THAT IT WORKS.
UM, THE CM C REALLY FEELS THAT, UM, WE HAVE TO KEEP THE BELOW WATER, THOSE SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES AND THAT WE REALLY, UM, REALLY WANNA STRESS THE FACT THAT EVERYONE CAN USE A BLOWER DURING THE SPRING AND THE FALL CLEANUP TIMES.
SO THE, THE TIMES WHEN PEOPLE REALLY HAVE A NEED FOR A BLOWER, IT'S AVAILABLE.
UM, AND WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO PRIVATE PROPERTY.
UM, I DUNNO, WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, WHICH ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS IS THE, THE SUPERVISOR CALLED AN EMERGENCY, UM, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A RATIONALE WHILE SOME PRIVATE ENTITIES ARE FAVORED OVER OTHERS.
AND WE WERE FACED WITH SAYING, WELL, WHO DO YOU EXEMPT? AND WE COULDN'T COME UP WITH A RATIONALE THAT MADE SENSE ONCE YOU STARTED GETTING INTO, UH, MAKING EXCEPTIONS FOR PRIVATE ENTITIES.
BUT WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE MUNICIPAL ENTITY IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY ISSUE INVOLVED AND JUST THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE MUNICIPALITY IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, I WANNA BE SURE THAT I HAVEN'T MISSPOKEN, AND I'D BE VERY HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU, THE JURY OR ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
JERRY, UH, RICH, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANY
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BOARD MEMBERS, JERRY, JERRY AND RICH, WHO, WHO THEN ISSUES THAT WE WERE TRYING TO WORK OUT? SO I THINK THEY WOULD BE, HEARING FROM THEM WOULD BE GREAT.AND DON'T INTERRUPT EACH OTHER.
UM, SINCE I'M THE SENIOR GUY, I, I, I, I'LL GIVE A STAB AT IT FIRST.
UM, BASICALLY THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD, WE ADDRESSED, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, UH, C A C AND, UH, AS YOU HEARD FROM TERRY, THEY UNDERSTOOD OUR NEEDS.
UM, WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT OTHER ENTITIES, UH, WHETHER IT WAS, UH, UH, CEMETERIES, GOLF COURSES, UM, I THINK THERE WAS SOME OTHER ISSUES.
AND, UH, THEY DID NOT, UH, WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD OF INCLUDING THEM AND AND EXCEPTIONS AND JUST FOCUS BACK THAT AS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, THAT WE HAD CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND, UH, THEY RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR US TO HAVE IT.
AND, UH, WE, I DID MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION OF IT.
UM, I ALSO FELT THAT IT DID NOT INCLUDE ISLANDS.
SO THEY ADDED THAT INFANCY UNDER NUMBER, UH, UH, C AND D UH, FOR BOTH OF US THAT HAVE ROAD ISLAND'S RESPONSIBILITY, UH, THAT WAS ADDED.
AND THEN, UH, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IF THERE'S ANY, YOU KNOW, EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES TO USE IN PARTICULAR.
UH, OUR PARK SUPERINTENDENT SAID SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME EQUIPMENT SHORTAGES AND STUFF THAT MAY NOT MAKE US, UH, ALLOW TO HIT THE DEADLINE.
LIKE IN THE FALL CLEANUP, UH, THE DEADLINE WILL BE, HAS TO BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER 15TH.
BUT IF FOR SOME REASON, UH, WHETHER IT'S A LATE, UH, LEAF DROP AND WE HAVE LIKE ACRES AND ACRES OF AREAS, WHICH IS A LOT MORE, UH, TO COVER, UH, THAN SOMEONE THAT IS A HOMEOWNER THAT HAS A, YOU KNOW, QUARTER ACRE LOT VERSUS MAYBE AN ACRE AND A HALF LOT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, RECOGNIZED OUR NEEDS.
YEAH, I THINK ON, ON THE D P W END, I THINK WE WERE VERY, WE WANTED BE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE, THE DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO, UM, THOUGHT BEHIND THIS.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA BE TELLING PEOPLE YOU CAN'T, BUT WE CAN.
UM, OUR BIGGEST ISSUE IS RIGHT NOW WE'RE DONE WITH OUR PROPERTIES.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WHERE WE SHOULD BE.
BUT RIGHT NOW, ON OUR END, WE'RE CONTINUALLY DOING TREE WORK AND OUR RIGHT OF WAY CLEANUPS NOW.
SO OUR RIGHT OF WAY CLEANUPS ARE VERY EXTENSIVE.
UM, I THINK AT SOME POINT I SENT THE, THE LIST TO THE BOARD AND WE BASICALLY ARE DOING THOSE UNTIL THEY'RE DONE OR UNTIL THE WEATHER CATCHES UP WITH US.
THAT'S OUR ONLY DILEMMA IS THE RIGHT OF WAY CLEANUPS.
AND THE USE OF THE BLOWERS, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE GOTTEN THE QUIETER BLOWERS, UM, IT MAKES OUR JOB 'CAUSE OF WHERE WE'RE WORKING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE EFFICIENT.
AND IT, AND IT SAVES US TIME AND MONEY.
A A AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD ABOUT THIS, UH, WE, WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS NOT LIKE A PERFECT, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION, BUT, UH, WE RECOGNIZE THE, THE ISSUE ABOUT NOISE AND, UH, WE WERE ACCEPTING AND NOT USING IT UNLESS UNDER EXTENUATED CIRCUMSTANCES DURING THE TWO SEASONS, UH, WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO COMMITTEE AND THEY ENDORSED IT, UH, THAT IT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, UH, TO EXPIRE IN TWO YEARS, NOT TO DO IT IN ONE YEAR BECAUSE WE'LL BE HALFWAY THROUGH THE SEASON AND THEN REEVALUATING WHETHER YOU KNOW IT WAS SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.
SO I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS, UH, HELPFUL, UH, IN THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT THEY GAVE.
AND, AND ALSO, JUST ONE OTHER THING TO ADD.
WE'RE LOOKING AT EQUIPMENT THAT'S GETTING BUILT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE NEW VACUUMS THAT ARE OUT.
SO WE ARE EXPLORING THAT FOR THE RIGHT AWAY CLEANUP.
IT'S JUST AT THE CURRENT TIME, WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANYTHING THAT REALLY WORKS FOR US FOR WHAT THE JOB IS.
AND SO MY, MY ISSUE HAS ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT DO, UH, PUT OUT THERE SOMETHING AS DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO.
AND SO WE DIDN'T EXEMPT OURSELVES WHEN WE DEALT WITH THE LIBRARY.
WE DIDN'T EXEMPT OURSELVES WHEN WE DEALT WITH THE MULTI-PURPOSE CENTER.
UM, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, AND SO D P W AND PARKS MET WITH THE C A C AND THE SOLUTION WAS THERE THAT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THE REGULATIONS AND, YOU KNOW,
WHO, WHO COULDN'T ARGUE WITH THAT.
IF YOU ARE PARKS AND IF YOU'RE A D P W, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THE MEETING IS THAT THEY, THEY WANT TO BE EXEMPT BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE REGULATIONS WOULD BE AN
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UNDUE BURDEN ON THEM.UH, AND MY POSITION HAS ALWAYS BEEN, IF CLEANING THE RIGHT OF WAY IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S OKAY TO USE A BLOWER.
WELL, HOMEOWNERS ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING RIGHT OF WAYS.
BECAUSE IF WE PUT A SIDEWALK ON YOUR PROPERTY IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
UH, EXCEPT IN OTHER, SOME SUMMIT STREETS WHERE THE TOWN DOES IT FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, OTHER AREAS, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE TO DO IT THEMSELVES.
AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN SOMEBODY FALLS AND, AND, UH, GETS HURT, THE HOMEOWNER GETS SUED.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE STILL HAVE TO ADDRESS BECAUSE YOU SHOULD HAVE ONE SIDEWALK, THE TOWN DOES, AND ANOTHER AREA WE HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT THE HOMEOWNER HAS TO DO.
BUT SETTING THAT ASIDE, UM, WE HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEBODY COULD HAVE A VERY EXTENSIVE SIDEWALK THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
THEY WILL HAVE TO RAKE IT, BUT WE'RE SAYING IT'S OKAY FOR OUR D P W OR PARKS DEPARTMENT TO USE A BLOWER, UM, BECAUSE IT MADE, FOR WHATEVER REASON.
AND, AND WE HEARD ALL THE STORIES ABOUT HOW IT'S FASTER TO RAKE THAN IT IS TO BLOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO I WANTED TO CATEGORIZE WHAT IT IS THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN EXEMPTION FOR.
AND, AND THE FLIP SIDE, THE, THE, THE OTHER THING TO DEAL WITH IS THE C A C CAME BACK A RECOMMENDATION, NOT SOLELY ON NOISE, BUT ALSO ON POLLUTION, AIR POLLUTION FROM PUTTING TOXIC MATERIALS UP INTO THE AIR AND DAMAGING THE SOIL.
AND BY HAVING AN EXCEPTION SO THAT IF THE TOWN EMPLOYEES DO IT, IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO PUT TOXIC MATERIALS INTO THE AIR.
THEY'RE TOWN EMPLOYEES, UH, OR DAMAGE THE SOIL.
UH, I, I, I DON'T FOLLOW THE LOGIC THERE.
AND I WOULD, I, YOU KNOW, AND I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A PERFECT LAW, BUT, YOU KNOW, A COMPROMISE THAT WINDS UP HAVING THE TOWN NOT TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ITS OWN REGULATIONS, UM, I HAVE A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH, AND I THINK IT'S SUCH A TERRIBLE PRECEDENT FOR OTHER ITEMS. SO CAN I JUST ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS? SURE.
FRANCIS, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEAVES ON THE SIDEWALK FIRST.
IF I AGREE WITH YOU, IF TOWN WAS DOING WITH SOME AREAS, WE SHOULD DO THEM FOR EVERYBODY.
AND I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT, I'VE ALSO FELT THE SIDEWALKS WAS SNOWING IN THE WEEK.
WE WANT SIDEWALKS DOWN TO DO IT.
BUT, UM, REMEMBER YOU CAN USE A BLOWER UP UNTIL DECEMBER, THE REASON THERE'S AN EXCEPTION IN THERE.
AND YOU ALSO COULD USE A BLOWER IF THE, UH, THERE WAS SOME SORT OF SUMMER EVENT AND THE TOWN SUPERVISOR CALLED AN EMERGENCY.
SO THERE ARE WAYS THAT THE P COULD USE A BLOWER EITHER BY PERMISSION IN A RESTRICTED PERIOD, BUT JUST IN THE NORMAL
WHEN EVERYTHING GETS DONE ON THE LAWNS AND THE STUFF STARTS TO BLOW, IT LANDS UP.
THE LAST PLACE IT LANDS IS ON, OUT ON THE EDGE OF THE ROAD SOMEHOW IT SEEMS EVERY FALL.
SO I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HOMEOWNER, THE HOMEOWNER HAS THE ABILITY TO USE THE BLOWER IN THE FALL ON THE SIDEWALK, BECAUSE WE CAN USE THE BLOWER THROUGH DECEMBER 15TH.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY A RESTRICTED TIME.
SO I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SAY.
THE OTHER THING IS, WE HAVE NOT EXEMPTED THE TOWN DEPARTMENTS COMPLETELY.
WE HAVE EXEMPTED THEM FOR A VERY SPECIFIC NARROW RANGE OF ACTIVITIES, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH REALLY SAFETY ON ROADS.
AND I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SAYING WE'VE GIVEN THEM CARD BLANCHE AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY GRACED ABOUT TALKING ABOUT WORKING WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS.
AND I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT INCORRECT TO SAY THAT THEY'VE SORT OF BEEN GIVEN A, A, A TOTAL PASS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T.
AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU NOTICE, WE EVEN ADDED THE THING ABOUT THE IRONS BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING UNDER DISCUSSION WITH, BECAME SOMETHING THAT IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THIS WAS GONNA CAUSE THEM A PROBLEM.
SO I THINK IT'S A VERY RESTRICTIVE, UM, AREA ON THEM.
AND GOING TO ONE OF THE ONES THAT RICH HAS MENTIONED, WE ACTUALLY ADDED IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS, AFTER TALKING TO UM, D P DOWN, UM, UH, AN E DEBRIS CLEANUP RESULTING FROM AUTHORIZED TREE REMOVAL SPECIAL LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES, WE
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REALIZED THAT THE VERY PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF TREE REMOVAL AND THE DEBRIS THE D P W WAS HAVING, WHEN SOMEONE HAD A GOOD SIZE TREE TAKEN DOWN THAT WAS ANYWHERE NEAR THE EDGE OF THE, OF THE ROAD, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE ON THEIR PROPERTY, THE TREE REMOVAL SERVICES WOULD BE FACING THE SAME PROBLEM.AND WE FELT SINCE WE'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE PERMITTING ON ALL THE TREE REMOVALS, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD COME IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA NEED PERMISSION TO USE A BLOWER TO GET THIS CLEANED UP QUICKLY ON THE ROAD BID.
SO IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT D P W, IT SAYS, BECAUSE THEY DO WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY'RE EXEMPT, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT THEY CAN DO IS WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
IT SAYS, BECAUSE THEY DO WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT THEY, THEY ARE EXEMPT.
SO THAT IS A BLANKET EXEMPTION FOR D P W, AND I THINK WE WOULD'VE NO ISSUE WITH SOMEHOW, UH, TIGHTENING THAT UP.
UM, AND AS I SAID, RIGHT NOW, OUR, IT'S NOT THE 15TH OF DECEMBER YET OUR YARDS ARE, ALL OUR BUILDING YARDS ARE CLEAN.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, MIKE BRUGER AND HIS TEAM HAVE, AND I THINK JERRY'S GUYS TOO ARE NOW MARCHING MOST OF THE STUFF DOWN.
SO IT'S NOT THAT LIKE THEY'RE GOING OUT THERE AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, BLOWING THE LEAVES JUST TO CLEAN UP DURING THE MONTHS WHERE WE'D BE ALLOWED, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD USE THEM FOR THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY PAST THE 15TH DEADLINE, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE GET OUR RIGHT OF WAYS, SPECIFICALLY OUR SHOULDERS THAT AREN'T MAINTAINED BY RESIDENTS UNTIL THOSE ARE CLEANED UP ARE, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR TEAMS ARE OUT DOING THAT.
ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE SHIFT TO DIFFERENT, UM, ACTIVITIES AND WHAT, LISTEN WITH SOME TREES, DO WE NEED TO BLOW? NO, BUT THERE ARE CASES WHERE WE MIGHT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE A, IT'S NOT A END ALL, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND IT, IT'S, I THINK, VERY SPECIFIC TO, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN TIME OF YEAR RIGHT AWAY CLEANUP, AT LEAST ON OUR END.
I KNOW JEREMY'S GOT OTHER ISSUES WITH THE PARKS, RIGHT.
BUT, BUT THE TREES APPLIES TO EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW? YEAH, YEAH.
IT DOESN'T, IT APPLY, IT DOESN'T APPLY JUST TO D P W.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY REASONABLE AND, UM, ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, PROVISION THAT THAT'S, UH, PLACED IN THERE, UH, BUT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WILL BE ADDRESSED AT SOME POINT, OR THIS IS JUST A TEMPORARY THING, UM, IS WE HAVEN'T DEALT WITH THE DECIBEL LEVELS BECAUSE IN THE EARLIER RESEARCH, FIND RESEARCH DONE BY THE C A C, YOU SHOWED THAT THERE'S NO GAS POWERED BLOWER THAT COMPLIES WITH OUR NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND ARE WE JUST, ARE WE GOING TO IGNORE THAT AND SAY THAT PEOPLE CAN USE GAS POWERED MOWERS DURING THE FALL SEASON REGARDLESS, EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW THAT THEY EXCEED OUR, THE 55 DECIBEL LEVELS THAT OUR CODE SAYS, WELL, FRANCIS, THERE'S ONLY FIVE ELECTRIC THAT DON'T EXCEED IT.
THE ELECTRIC ONES ARE AS NOISY AS THE GAS ONES AND AS HAVE AS POWERFUL, UH, UM, AIR COMING OUT DAMAGING THE SOIL.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THAT RESEARCH THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
YOU KNOW, IT STARTED OUT, I JUST DID A, I DID A QUICK CHECK ON THE HOME DEPOT SITE, AND THEN, UM, ONE OF OUR MEMBERS WENT WITH, AND WELL LITERALLY WENT THROUGH EVERY AVAILABLE, CURRENTLY SOLD ELECTRIC AND GAS BLOWER.
AND OTHER THAN FIVE ELECTRIC BLOWERS, ALL THE OTHER ELECTRIC BLOWERS JUST HAD SIMILAR DECIBEL SET, UM, LEVELS OF VELOCITY COMING OUT OF THEM AS THE GAS BLOWERS.
SO I THINK IT'S A, A MYTH OF A VERY EARLY TIME ON THE ELECTRIC BLOWERS BEING AN ALTERNATIVE TO SOLVE THE NOISE OR ANY OF THE OTHER PROBLEMS, WHICH IS WHY WE RESTRICTED BOTH DURING THE POOLS WHERE THEY CAN'T BE USED AND ATED, BOTH BECAUSE WE FELT THAT TO IN ANY, WE SAW NO SIGNIFICANT ADVANTAGE TO SAYING USE AN ELECTRIC BLOWER DURING THE SEASON WHEN IT WAS ALLOWED, AND IT WOULD PUT AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE LANDSCAPERS WHO DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRIC BLOWERS BECAUSE THE ELECTRIC BLOWERS, UM, FROM THE RESEARCH I'VE DONE, UM, YOU NEED A VERY LONG EXTENSION CORD, OR IF THEY'RE BATTERY PACKS, THE BATTERY PACKS DON'T LAST THE WHOLE DAY.
THEY'RE JUST NOT UP TO THE LEVEL THAT A PROFESSIONAL GARDENER WOULD NEED.
SO THE VERY SLIGHT ADVANTAGE OF AN ELECTRIC BLOWER, BECAUSE IT ISN'T BURNING GASOLINE AT THE TIME, DID NOT SEEM WORTH, UM, MAKING THAT DISTINCTION.
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IS BY BASICALLY RECOGNIZING BOTH THEM AS BEING EQUALLY HARMFUL, IT ALSO MAKES IT MUCH EASIER TO ENFORCE, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST SAYING DURING THOSE PERIODS WHERE YOU CAN'T USE A BLOWER, YOU JUST CAN'T USE A BLOWER, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE USING.UM, THERE ARE SO FEW OF THEM THAT ACTUALLY ARE UNDER THE TOWN'S, UM, NOISE LEVEL.
I THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM INHERENT IN MOST OF THE LAWN EQUIPMENT IS PROBABLY OVER THE TOWN'S LEVEL AND, AND NOT JUST, HI EVERYONE, I'M DAVID.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S WORKABLE, THAT'S FAIR.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE'RE OPEN TO ANY ADDITIONAL, OPEN TO ANY ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS.
WELL, YEAH, I, I WASN'T ACTUALLY DOING COMPARISON OF THE ELECTRIC VERSUS GAS.
UM, BUT WHAT YOU POINT OUT IS THAT THERE ARE ONLY FIVE LEAF BLOWERS THAT COMPLY WITH OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, RIGHT? NONE OF THE GAS.
AND THERE ARE FIVE, FIVE ELECTRIC GAS, UH, LEAF BLOWERS THAT COMPLY.
AND SO UNLESS WE, AS PART OF THIS FIX THE DECIBEL LEVEL, THE NOISE ORDINANCE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL MAKING PEOPLE IN BIO, UH, IN USING THE BLOWERS IN VIOLATION.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IS THAT, DOES THAT COME DOWN THE LINE BETTER? I HOPE IT WOULD, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA FACE SOME THINGS WITH THAT NOISE LEVEL THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NOISE LEVEL OF ALL EQUIPMENT OUT THERE.
BUT I THINK IT'S AN EXTRANEOUS ISSUE TO THIS.
I THINK WHAT THIS DOES BRING TO THE COMMUNITY IS, AT LEAST FOR THOSE OTHER MONTHS OF THE YEAR, PARTICULARLY THE SUMMER MONTHS, IT WOULD NOT BE THE BLOWERS IN USE.
SO WE'RE TAKING ONE OF THE HUGE NOISE ELEMENTS OUT OF THE SUMMER MONTHS AND THE WINTER MONTHS.
SO I THINK IT DOES PROVIDE SOME RELIEF FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRIMARILY CONCERNED WITH THE, UM, NOISE.
IT OBVIOUSLY ISN'T WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE.
THEY WOULD LIKE THE BLOWERS TO GO AWAY, BUT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, I THINK ANYONE WHO'S HAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY KNOWS YOU GET TO A CERTAIN POINT IN THE FALL.
UM, AND I KNOW, UH, JERRY AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, USING THE LAWNMOWER TO MOW THE LEAVES WORKS WHEN THEY FIRST START TO COME DOWN, BUT THERE'S A POINT WHERE THAT DOESN'T WORK ANY LONGER.
SO I THINK WHEN LOOKING WITH, TRYING TO COME UP FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH A LAW THAT PROBABLY ISN'T PERFECT.
AND CERTAINLY ON THE NOISE LEVEL, I THINK IF THE CAMERA WANTS TO LOOK AT ITS NOISE, UM, ORDINANCE, THAT'S A SEPARATE LOOK.
AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A VERY HARD ONE TO DO BECAUSE OF SO MUCH AMBIENT NOISE AND SO MANY THINGS THAT CAUSE NOISE.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT SHOULDN'T PREVENT THE TOWN FROM LOOKING SERIOUSLY AT A BLOWER ORDINANCE AND PROVIDING THAT RELIEF THAT CAN BE PROVIDED THROUGH WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A STRUCTURED AND BALANCED BLOWER.
I JUST, I UNDERSTAND FRANCE JUST ABOUT THE NOISE ORDINANCE BECAUSE SURE.
I, I'VE SAID IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UM, I FEEL THAT THAT IS UNWORKABLE LAW IN THE BOOKS, AND I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE THE DECIBEL, UH, LEVEL IS 55, AND YOU COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE LIKE EIGHT FEET AWAY, AND THEY CAN BE REGISTERED AT 55 DECIBELS.
I DON'T KNOW OF A SINGLE LEAF BLOWER OR EVEN LAWNMOWER THAT'S OUT THERE NOW, WHETHER IT'S EVEN, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, LOWER DECIMAL, ANYTHING AT 55 THAT'S WORTH ITS WEIGHT EVEN FOR ANY HOMEOWNERS IN THE YARDS.
IT, IT, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE PUT IT IN LAW, I DON'T KNOW, 15, 20 YEARS AGO, I DON'T THINK IT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, LOOK AT CLOSELY.
AND I THINK IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT.
UM, I, I DID SENSE FROM THE C A C COMMITTEE THAT WITH THIS SORT OF PILOT PROGRAM THAT AT LEAST DURING, UH, CERTAIN MONTHS OF THE YEAR FROM LIKE, UH, MEMORIAL DAY TO OCTOBER, UH, THERE WOULD BE A SENSE OF A LOT LESS OF USING OF THAT.
YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE NOISE FROM, UH, LAWNMOWERS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, USING, UH, LEAF BLOWERS WOULD BE, UH, LESS.
AND I DO KNOW FROM OURS THAT WE SUBMITTED, THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, OUR BALL FIELDS, WE TOOK THAT OUT AFTER COMPROMISE AND WE TRIED TO STICK TO IT, WHETHER IT WAS, UH, ROADWAYS, WALKWAYS, ISLANDS WITH SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES WERE HUGE, YOU KNOW, CLEANUPS AND, AND JUST FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE JUST FEEL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIKE ONLY 12 FULL-TIME WORKERS WITH, YOU KNOW, A 600 ACRE, UH, PARK SYSTEM WHERE WE HAVE EXTENSIVE ROADS IN OUR SYSTEM WHERE THERE'S RENBROOK, UM, UH, HARTS BROOK AF VETERAN PARK, SOME OF THESE LONG
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WALKWAYS AND HAVE, SO THAT'S SORT OF WHY, YOU KNOW, WE WENT WITH IT.UM, WE, WHAT I SENSED FROM MIKE SIEGEL WHO'S NOT HERE, AND I THINK HE COULD PROBABLY ARTICULATE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, IS THAT HE REALIZED THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY HAD, BUT THEY'VE BEEN WAITING FOR LIKE 12, 13 YEARS AND THEY FIGURED THIS WOULD JUST BE A PILOT PROGRAM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE TIGHTEN IT UP OR WE LOOSEN IT UP, YOU KNOW, BASED ON HOW IT GOES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE IMPRESSION I GOT FROM THEM.
BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE REALLY CLOSE, REALLY CLOSE DOING THE COMPLETE PACKAGE, INCLUDING THE NOISE, AND THEN IT SWITCHED OVER TO THIS SO-CALLED COMPROMISE WHERE IT'S SOLELY THE TIME OF YEAR AND IT'S EXEMPTING EXEMPTING THE TOWN, UH, FROM, FROM, FROM ESSENTIALLY, UH, EXEMPTING THE TOWN FROM THE REGULATIONS THAT WE WOULD IMPOSE ON EVERYBODY ELSE.
BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE MISLEADING THE PUBLIC INTO THINKING THAT THERE ARE TIMES A YEAR THAT THEY CAN USE A LEAF BLOWER, BECAUSE YOUR RESEARCH HAS SHOWED THAT ONLY FOUR ELECTRIC LEAFBLOWER, HANDHELD LEAF BLOWERS COMPLY.
AND YET MOST PEOPLE, WHEN THEY THINK I CAN USE A LEAF BLOWER, THEY THINK YOU CAN USE A LEAF BLOWER INCLUDING A BATTER, YOU KNOW, A BACKPACK TYPE LEAF BLOWER.
AND THAT'S MISLEADING, MISLEADING THE PUBLIC.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.
UH, WHERE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE GOING INTO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN YOU CAN'T USE THEM AGAIN, WHICH, WHICH IS FINE.
AND LET'S, LET'S, LET'S BE VERY CLEAR,
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S TROUBLESOME FOR EVERYBODY WHO, PARTICULARLY NOW IF YOU'RE WORKING FROM HOME TO DEAL WITH THE NOISE, BUT WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU CAN ONLY USE ONE LEAF BLOWER AT A TIME.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN USE THREE, YOU CAN USE FOUR, YOU CAN USE FIVE, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS, DURING THIS TIME WHEN YOU CAN USE THE LEAF BLOWERS.
WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING MULTIPLE BACKPACKS OR SOME ACTUALLY USING, YOU KNOW, RIDER RIDING BLOWERS, WHICH CAUSE QUITE A BIT.
UH, BUT IT ALSO, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GETTING EMAILS OF 50% ARE IN FAVOR, 50% ARE OPPOSED.
UH, AND REALLY THE VOTES THAT ARE OPPOSED ARE CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES THIS GO NEXT? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE, WE KNOW, AT LEAST I KNOW FROM MY EXPERIENCE, THE LAWNMOWERS RUN FOR A LOT LONGER PERIOD OF TIME THAN THE LEAF BLOWERS.
I MEAN, LEAF BLOWERS DON'T RUN THAT LONG, EXCEPT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LEAF BLOWERS GOING FOR FOUR HOURS.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD BE DOING IN FOUR HOURS WITH A LEAF BLOWER, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A CONCERN.
AND SO, OKAY, WELL, WILL THE DEAL WITH THIS NOW? AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER TYPES OF EQUIPMENT LATER.
UH, I, I DON'T WANT TO TURN OUR, OUR, OUR RESIDENTS WHO TAKE CARE OF THEIR LAWN THEMSELVES, UH, AND HAVE TO DO IT AFTER WORK OR ON WEEKENDS TO TURN THEM INTO, TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, CRIMINALS LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER.
UH, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD ADVOCATED FOR IS THAT, OKAY, THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE TOWN OF UNINCORPORATED, TOWN OF GREENBURG, SOME VERY BLUE COLLAR AND HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU USE YOUR BLOWER, THEN I'LL USE MY BLOWER, WHATEVER.
AND, UH, PEOPLE MAINTAIN THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY AND THAT THEY'RE FINE WITH THAT.
BUT WHEN I SUGGESTED THAT THIS BE BASED ON A COMPLAINT, EVEN AN ANONYMOUS COMPLAINT, IT WAS, OH, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
IT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE OR THE, UH, BILLING DEPARTMENT COMING BY.
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST GIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A SUMMONS AUTOMATICALLY IF THEY SEE IT.
RIGHT? AND THEN THEY SAID, WELL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO INTO FENCED AREAS, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO INTO AREAS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE LARGE COMPLEXES.
SO IT, IT'S REALLY TARGETING, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, HOMEOWNERS, UM, AND EXEMPTING THE TOWN.
I, I ALWAYS COME BACK TO THAT.
AND SO, WELL, I THINK A LOT OF THINGS THERE, FRANCIS, AND I DISAGREE WITH YOU QUITE A FEW SAY.
I THINK WE WE'RE TRYING TO MIX IN HERE OTHER ISSUES.
I THINK THE REALITY IS THAT, UM, AS JERRY POINTED OUT, WE HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH I SUSPECT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THE REALITY OF WHAT THE WORLD IS.
SO NOW WE CAN LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA DO SOME MORE STUDY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO A STUDY ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
THE REALITY IS, I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH A NUMBER ON A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT EASILY THAT'S GOING TO WORK IN TERMS OF
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OTHER EQUIPMENT OR HOW THE EQUIPMENT IS USED.IT'S DIFFICULT ENOUGH TO HAVE A BLANKET ONE WHERE WE HAVE A CALENDAR ENFORCED MORE IF WE'RE GONNA TRY AND GET INTO DECIBEL LEVELS ON EQUIPMENT, HOW THE EQUIPMENT IS BEING USED.
THAT'S BASICALLY A DEGREE OF SPECIFICITY AT THE MINUTE IT WAS WRITTEN WOULD GO OUTTA DATE.
WHICH I THINK IS WHY LAWS TEND TO AVOID THAT TYPE OF LEGISLATION BECAUSE IT'S SO TIGHT THAT IT IMMEDIATELY GOES OUT DATE ONCE YOU WRITE IT.
I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE, AND IT IS REALLY THE TOWN BOARD'S DECISION, UM, TO TRY THIS.
I THINK THE IDEA, AND, AND I THANK JERRY FOR THAT, HE WAS THE ONE WHO SAID, LET'S NOT DO THE YEAR, DO IT TWO YEARS, BECAUSE THE FIRST YEAR YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO SORT OF FITTING INTO IT AND GETTING EVERYBODY ON BOARD AND THE TWO YEARS LOOK IS BETTER.
AT THE END OF THE TWO YEARS, THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY OF SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS DIDN'T IMPROVE ANYTHING.
WE GOT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, LET'S TAKE IT OUT.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT I, I, I, MIKE AND I ARE CONSTANTLY BEING CC'D FROM PAUL ON PEOPLE'S EMAILS ABOUT, AND THIS WAS DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, NOT JUST THE FALL, THE SUMMER MONTHS ABOUT LOWER USE.
AND I CERTAINLY THINK WE CAN FIND RELIEF FOR PEOPLE AND DO SOMETHING FOR THE ENVIRONMENT BY RESTRICTING IT DURING THOSE MONTHS WHERE THERE REALLY ISN'T A RATIONALE FOR HAVING TO USE THE BLOWERS.
IT COMES DOWN TO REALLY YOU TOWN BOARD MEMBERS DECIDING WHETHER YOU WANNA DO THIS.
I DO THINK FROM THE CAC C'S POINT OF VIEW IS, AND I, AND I ALSO WOULD SAY FROM, FROM THE TIME IT'S TAKEN FROM TOWN STAFF TO WORK WITH US, I DUNNO THAT THERE'S SOMEPLACE ELSE WE CAN GO ON THIS, I THINK TIGHTENING UP THE WORDING, CERTAINLY THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, RICH DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND YOU POINTED OUT SOMETHING, THE WORDING ON THAT NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED.
BUT THEN AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY GIVING YOU THE DRAFT OF THE LAW.
WE HAVE A LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE DON'T WANNA MIX UP OTHER THINGS INTO THIS, BECAUSE IF WE DO THAT, WE'LL NEVER MAKE A DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND I THINK WE ALSO OWE IT TO ALL THE PEOPLE, BUT WE KEEP SAYING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VOTE ON THIS.
AND WHETHER THAT'S THE PEOPLE WHO WERE FORWARD OR AGAINST IT, BUT THERE'S BEEN EMAILS GOING ON NOW SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER SAYING, WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THIS, THE TOWN BOARD'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT, THE CAC IS GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT, AND WHAT THE CAC CAN DO NO MORE AT THIS POINT, IT'S REALLY, UNLESS WE GET SOME VERY SPECIFIC SUGGESTION.
SO I REALLY PUT IT BACK TO YOU, THE TOWN BOARD TO TAKE IT FROM THERE.
BUT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU REALLY JUST FOCUS ON THE ISSUE OF THE BLOWERS, THE BLOWER LAW, WHAT WE THINK, WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT WHY WE WOULD COME UP WITH THE MUNICIPAL EXCEPTION.
THAT IS A VERY RESTRICTIVE EXCEPTION.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, AND IDEALLY COMMEND RICH AND JERRY, 'CAUSE THEY REALLY WORKED WITH US ON THIS TO TRY AND GET SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD LIVE WITH, BUT REALLY PROTECTED THE TOWN AND THE RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF THE, THE ROADWAYS AND DIDN'T GIVE THEM CAR BLANCHE BY ANY MEANS.
ALRIGHT, I JUST WANNA SAY ONE MORE THING AND THEN I'LL BE, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL REMAIN QUIET.
TERRY, YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM LIKE I WANT THE C A C TO DO MORE WORK.
I DON'T, YOU'VE DONE THE STUDIES ON THE DECIBEL LEVEL AND ALL I'M, ALL I'M I'M SAYING HERE IS THAT FOR SOME REASON OR OTHER, THE C A C PULLED THAT BACK AND NOW IS ONLY PROPOSING WHEN YOU CAN'T USE THE BLOWERS WITHOUT ADDRESSING WHEN THE, YOU CAN USE THE BLOWERS.
CAN YOU DO THAT LEGALLY? YOU'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IN THE PERIOD WHEN YOU CAN USE THE BLOWERS, NO GAS POWERED BLOWER COMPLIES WITH OUR CODE FOR ELECTRIC, UH, BLOWERS COMPLY WITH OUR CODE.
SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT IN ORDER FOR YOU TO SAY WHEN YOU CAN'T USE THEM DURING CERTAIN PERIODS OF THE YEAR, WHICH I HAVE NO TROUBLE WITH AT ALL, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T USE 'EM DURING CERTAIN PERIODS WHERE IT DOESN'T JUST MAKE SENSE TO USE THEM.
IT'S DISINGENUOUS FOR US TO SAY.
BUT DURING THESE OTHER PERIODS, LIKE FOR THE FALL, WHEN THE LEAVES ARE DROPPING, YOU CAN USE BLOWERS, WHICH WE KNOW BASED ON OUR CODE ARE NOT LEGAL.
OKAY? I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE SAME FROM BEFORE.
THE SAME INFORMATION YOU HAD BEFORE.
LET'S BRING IT FORWARD AND FIGURE OUT THAT DECIBEL LEVEL.
CAN, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? WHEN YOU DID THE RESEARCH, PAUL, PAUL, BEFORE YOU SPEAK AS FAR AS THE DECIBEL
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LEVELS, FRANCIS, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY LAWNMOWER USED IS VIOLATING THE DECIBEL LAW.ANY POWER EQUIPMENT IN THIS TOWN USED ANY, UH, LEAF BLOWER, WHETHER IT'S ELECTRIC UNDER 55, IT'S NOT WORTH ITS WEIGHT AT ALL.
IT'S A TOTALLY INEFFICIENT THING THAT YOU, IT'S LIKE YOU EVER SEE THOSE PEOPLE'S LITTLE, UH, THOSE LITTLE, UH, UH, BATTERY POWERED, ALL OF 'EM ARE IN VIOLATION.
IT'S NOT JUST LEAF BLOWERS, IT'S ALL THE OTHER EQUIPMENTS.
AND I THINK THAT THE, THERE NEEDS FROM A SEPARATE ISSUE, THE, THE DECIBEL LAW, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, LIKE THE MANUFACTURER SAY IT'S, IT'S THE DECIBELS FROM 50 FEET AWAY.
AND I, AND AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT APPLIES FROM HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT ANY POWER EQUIPMENT USING LAWNMOWERS, IT'S THE SAME ISSUE EVERY TIME.
YOU, YOU START UP A LAWNMOWER THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THAT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN 55 DECIBELS.
'CAUSE IT'S, THAT'S MY CONVERSATION, JERRY.
I DON'T, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THIS LAW IS NOT PERFECT.
UM, AND, AND, AND THERE'S A LOT, HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE TOWN DON'T WANT ANYTHING.
AND HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE TOWN THINK THIS HAVING NO LEAFBLOWER ORDINANCES.
THERE'S HORRIBLE, AND I'M, YOU KNOW, WE, SO THERE'S REALLY NO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, YOU KNOW, ON THIS.
BUT I FEEL THAT, UM, WE SHOULD SET A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND THEN SCHEDULE A VOTE AND IT GOES UP OR DOWN AND IT GOES DOWN, IT GOES DOWN.
AND, UH, THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW WHERE EACH OF US, UH, IN, I FEEL THAT, UH, THIS PROPOSAL, WHILE IT'S NOT PERFECT, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WILL GIVE US, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO TEST OUT, UM, AN ORDINANCE, UH, DURING THE MONTHS WHEN THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LEAVES, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, COMING, COMING DOWN.
I THINK THIS IS A MANAGEABLE LAW.
YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO PEOPLE IN SCARSDALE.
THEY WANNA EXPAND THEIR LAW AND MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, YEAR ROUND.
UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING IN RECENT WEEKS, UM, AND THEY SAY THEY WANNA LEAVE LOWER LAW.
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T EVEN AWARE THAT THIS LAW DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THEM IN NOVEMBER.
AND, YOU KNOW, OCTOBER, UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY A BABY STEP, UH, FOR A LEAF BLOWER LAW.
SO I THINK THAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS SCHEDULE A HEARING, UM, FOR SOMETIME IN JANUARY OR EARLY FEBRUARY, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE WANNA IMPROVE ON THE LAW, YOU KNOW, YOU, THERE'S TIME TO TWEAK IT AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN WE VOTE, VOTE ON IT, AND IT'S MOVED OR IT'S REJECTED.
AND THEN AT LEAST, UH, INSTEAD OF EVERY OTHER DAY, I'M TELLING PEOPLE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT OR WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, LOOKING AT IT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT FOR LIKE 20 YEARS.
SO, CAN I JUMP IN REAL QUICK PLEASE? SURE.
WELL, TERESA, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THE CAC FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU GUYS PUT INTO THIS LAW.
AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANY WAY 'CAUSE YOU GUYS DID REALLY WORK REALLY HARD ON THIS LAW.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I SAID LAST TIME WAS THAT WE NEED TO BE FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO IF WE'RE TELLING THE RESIDENTS THAT THEY'RE UNABLE TO DO SOMETHING AND THE TOWN SHOULD FOLLOW SUIT, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS WHAT YOU SAID, YOU WERE LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS.
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS MAYBE, PERHAPS COME UP WITH A SCHEDULE, ALMOST LIKE THE GARBAGE PICKUP SCHEDULE, BUT DURING THIS TIME, EVERY OTHER DAY OR EVERY OR THESE OFF DAYS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, TO THAT EFFECT THAT WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE THE LEAF BLOWERS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND MANAGE IT BY TIME, I I AM TOO HOME ALL DAY, MY SON AND I ON ZOOMS WORKING TOO, AND HEARING LEAF BLOWERS.
AND IT CAN BE VERY, IT CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE ON A HUGE MEETING.
BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING TO FIND SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE, AND TO EVERYONE'S POINT, YES, THIS LAW IS NOT PERFECT, BUT IF WE COME UP WITH SOME, A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR ALL AND NOT JUST HALF BECAUSE IT'S, IT REALLY, I JUST CAN'T SIT STILL AND SAY, OKAY, THE TOWN CAN DO IT, BUT WE WON'T ALLOW OUR RESIDENTS TO DO IT.
AND THAT JUST DOESN'T SIT RIGHT WITH ME
SO AS WE TALK ABOUT, AS WE TALK ABOUT COMING UP WITH SOME SORT OF SOLUTION OR SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, RE A REDUCED SCHEDULE AT CERTAIN PERIODS OF THE DAY SO WE CAN COMPROMISE WITH THOSE LIKE MYSELF.
AND MANY OF THOSE WHO ARE ON THE ZOOM AND THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING CAN, ARE ABLE TO, UH, WORK IN A MORE, UM, EFFICIENT MANNER BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE HERE IN LET LOWS ALL DAY OR ANY TYPE OF LAWN EQUIPMENT ALL DAY, WELL AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT WE CAN KIND OF MANAGE OUR SCHEDULES IF POSSIBLE AROUND THE TIMES WHEN WE KNOW THAT WE MAY BE INTERRUPTED BY THE NOISE OF THE, OF THE LEAF BLOWERS.
SO LET ME OFFER THAT SUGGESTION
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TO YOU AS WHEN WE ARE GONNA COME BACK IN JANUARY TO REVISIT THAT.THEN MAYBE WE TALK WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH RICH AND JERRY TAKE TALK TO RICH ABOUT HOW THEY MANAGE AND HOW THEY WORK OUT THE GARBAGE SCHEDULE.
MAYBE THEY CAN FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT TYPE OF SCHEDULE.
BUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR ONE AND NOT FOR ALL.
AND I JUST CAN, I THINK CAN, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT I DIDN'T CUT YOU OFF.
THERE ARE TWO THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
ONE IS DOING SOMETHING FOR ONE AND NOT ANOTHER.
WE'RE NOT PREVENTING THE HOMEOWNER AND ALLOWING THE MUNICIPALITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE HOMEOWNER IS NOT ALLOWED.
BUT WE'VE ALLOWED NOW FOR PARKS IN THIS VERSION OF THE PROPOSED LAW, THE PARKS AND RECS AND D P W STRICTLY HAS TO DO WITH ROAD MAINTENANCE.
AND, AND, AND, AND THE REST OF THE TIME THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT ABLE IN THE SUMMER TO GO OUT AND GROW GRASS.
THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO IF THEY'RE NOT BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY IN THAT SENSE, THE ONLY WAY THEY'RE BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY IS IN A VERY SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCE THAT HAS TO DO PRIMARILY IT'S ITEMIZED IN TERMS OF ROAD KEEPING THE ROADS CLEAR FROM PEOPLE'S CITY, WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND I, I FEEL TREMENDOUS PITY FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOURSELF THAT HAS A CHILD.
YOU'RE TRYING TO TEACH ZOOM AND THERE'S NOISE IN THE, THAT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE AND EVEN MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE THAT WE'RE GETTING PUSHED BACK ON.
BECAUSE NOW WE'RE SAYING DURING THOSE PERIODS WHEN YOU NEED TO USE A LEAF BLOWER AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE RESTRICTED TIMES, I CERTAINLY THINK WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL THAT VARIABLE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
UM, ONE BEING JUST THE MECHANICS OF TRYING TO POLICE IT, WHICH IS WHY WE ALSO FELT MOVING AWAY FROM THE NOISE LEVEL.
YOU KNOW, YOU GET INTO THIS THING, HOW DO YOU LAW? AND THAT'S ONE THING ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL IS THAT, AS MIKE SEEGER LIKES TO SAY, WELL, YOU NEED TO ENFORCE IT AS A CALENDAR.
AND I, AND I THINK THAT IS HELPFUL IF WE GET INTO SOMETHING WHERE WE DO DAYS, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR PEOPLE, HOMEOWNERS, AND THE, THE LAWN SERVICES, WHEN YOU GET A FALL WITH A LOT OF RAIN, THEY GET REALLY PRESSED TO FIND A COUPLE OF DRY DAYS TO BLOW LEAVES.
SO IT GETS REALLY HARD BECAUSE IF IT ALWAYS RAINS ON TUESDAY, UM, THE POOR PERSON WHO HAS THE TUESDAY SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT THE WEATHER IS, OUR WONDERFUL D P W PEOPLE SHOW UP AND TAKE THE GARBAGE.
GOD LOVED THEM AND SNOWSTORMS, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THEM SAY, OH, THEY TOOK MY GARBAGE.
BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A HARD ONE, BUT THANK SUGGESTING IT AT LEAST YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT A SOLUTION THAT I APPRECIATE.
WHY, WHY CAN'T WE BASICALLY, UM, PUT IT ON AN AGENDA FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE C A C SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, WORKING OUT, UM, A COMPROMISE PROPOSAL.
LET THE PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME WE HAVE THE HEARING, WE COULD ALL TRY THINKING OF WAYS OF THE COMPROMISING AND, AND MAKING IT BETTER.
AND THEN WE TELL EVERYBODY THAT DEFINITELY GUARANTEED SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY, UM, WE WILL VOTE UP OR DOWN ON A PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT FAIR, YOU KNOW, TO THE C A C, YOU KNOW, EVERY COUPLE MONTHS I ASK THEM TO STUDY IT AND THEY SPEND HOURS AND HOURS DRAFTING LEGISLATION, MEETING WITH PEOPLE.
AND YOU KNOW, WE NEVER HAVE A COURTESY OF SAYING, OKAY, WE VOTED ON IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE BOARD BASICALLY DOESN'T LIKE THE LAW, THEY COULD REJECT IT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, MY, I THINK THAT IF WE, I MEAN I'M REPEATING MYSELF.
I, I JUST REALLY FEEL, UM, WE SHOULD SCHEDULE A HEARING AND THEN LET THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND MAKE FURTHER TWEAKS AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LAW.
AND I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO REACH A CONSENSUS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE ARE SO MANY COMMUNITIES IN WESTCHESTER THAT HAVE A LEAFBLOWER LAW.
THERE ARE SO MANY COMMUNITIES IN THE NATION THAT HAVE A LEAFBLOWER LAW, AND YOU KNOW, THE WORLD HASN'T ENDED IN THOSE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, SCARSDALE HAS ONE, I THINK YONKERS HAS A LEAF BLOWER LAW, UH, YOU KNOW, LARGE ONE HAS ONE.
I I, I AGREE WITH YOU PAUL, AND I THINK WE, WE CAN'T KEEP GOING ON BONE ON THIS ISSUE.
AND IF WE HAVE A HEARING AND THE PUBLIC GETS TO OPINE, WE MIGHT COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL IDEAS AND SOLUTIONS THAT CAN HELP US MOVE TOWARD THE LAW THAT IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, YOU
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KNOW, WHERE THE CAC IS AND WHERE FRANCIS THINKS THEY SHOULD BE.UM, BUT WITH JUST US KEEPING ON DISCUSSING IT WITH OUR SAME PERSPECTIVES AND POINTS OF VIEW, WE MIGHT NEVER GET THERE.
SO A WAY TO POSSIBLY MOVE THE BALL IS TO LET OTHER PEOPLE OPINE, GET THEIR, GET THEIR THOUGHTS.
UM, AND THAT MIGHT HELP US MOVE THE LAW CLOSER TO WHAT, UM, WE ALL WANNA SEE.
UM, AND THEN WE VOTE AND IT EITHER HAPPENS OR IT DOESN'T.
BUT I, BUT I DON'T THINK CONTINUING TO, TO DEBATE IT IN THIS FASHION, THE SAME PEOPLE, UM, ALL THE TIME, UM, IS REALLY DOING US ANY, IS IT'S NOT DOING THE COMMUNITY OF SERVICE.
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH DOING THAT AS LONG AS WE COMBINE IT WITH THE WORK THAT THE C A C DID ON THE NOISE LEVEL.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T, THE ISSUE ISN'T, YOU KNOW, THE TIME OF YEAR.
IT'S JUST WE ARE BEING VERY MISLEADING TO THE PUBLIC TO THINK THAT THERE ARE TIMES OF THE YEAR THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY BLOW LEAVES.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, BUT OUR, OUR ORDINANCE DOES NOT, WILL NOT ALLOW THE RESEARCH THAT THE C A C DID, BUT THEY DON'T WANNA BRING FORWARD RIGHT NOW FOR SOME REASON IS THAT NO GAS POWERED, UH, LEAF BLOWER, NONE, NOT ONE IN EXISTENCE.
COMPLIES CAN, CAN COMPLY WITH OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, DOESN'T NOISES WHAT WE NEEDS TO MERGE THESE SO THAT WE ADDRESS THIS IS WHEN YOU CAN'T USE THEM, BUT WHEN YOU CAN USE THEM, WE ARE NOT GOING TO FINE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE VIOLATING SOME NOISE ORDINANCE.
IT'S A SIMPLE THING IS TO DO WHAT WE WERE, WE WERE HEADING TOWARDS BEFORE THERE WAS A COMPROMISE WITH TWO OF OUR DEPARTMENTS.
IT WASN'T WITH THE TOWN BOARD, IT WAS WITH TWO OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, UH, EXEMPTING THEM.
SO THAT'S THAT, THAT'S ALL I'M SUGGESTING.
WHY DON'T FULLY HEARING ON BOTH, LET'S HEAR WHAT DIANA HAS TO SAY.
LET'S HEAR WHAT DIANA HAS TO SAY.
UH, I, I AGREE, KEN, THAT, THAT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND IT, AND FROM WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WRONG WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO GET SOLVED THAT QUICKLY EITHER, FRANCIS.
SO WHAT DO WE DO? DO WE SAY WE REPEAL ON NOISE ORDINANCE OR DO WE TURN, MOVE IT UP TO A, A LEVEL AS TO WHERE A LOT OF THESE BLOWERS ARE AND, AND ALL THIS EQUIPMENT.
SO WE ARE LIVING WITH THESE, THIS EQUIPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING AND UH, THAT AND, AND WE'RE NOT, OBVIOUSLY NOT ENFORCING IT BECAUSE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO, TO ENFORCE IT.
UH, AND, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A FRUSTRATION TOO.
SO, UM, I I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW, HOW WE NEED TO DO THIS AND IF WE INTERTWINE THIS, ARE WE GOING TO DELAY THIS EVEN MORE JUST TO TRY TO GET SOME KIND OF RELIEF FOR, FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE LOOKING FOR IT IN THE SUMMERTIME.
BUT I GUESS MY, I GUESS I'M NOT BEING CLEAR AND I APOLOGIZE.
THE C A C DIDN'T INTERTWINE THEM ALREADY.
AND WE HAD A PROPOSED LAW THAT, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH NOISE AND WITH, WHEN YOU CAN'T USE THEM, THEY BIFURCATED THEM AND ARE ONLY NOW DEALING WITH WHEN YOU CAN'T USE THEM WITHOUT ADDRESSING WHAT CAN YOU USE WHEN YOU CAN.
AND IF I'M MISSTATING THAT TER UH, TERRY, YOU KNOW, PLEASE CORRECT ME, BUT YOU HAD LANGUAGE AS A PROPOSED LAW AND I THOUGHT WE WERE REALLY CLOSE UNTIL YOU DECIDED TO MEET WITH TWO OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, GET THEM EXEMPT, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN BECAME A COMPROMISE LAW, THE TOWER.
NO, WE HAD DAN IN THAT APPROACH QUITE EARLY ON BECAUSE OF TWO THINGS, THE REALIZATION THAT BASICALLY NO DEVICES WERE AVAILABLE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE THERE WAS AN INHERENT ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM WITH IT.
AND, AND THE ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM, UH, REALLY WAS I THINK ONE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO ASSESS HOW NOISY SOMETHING IS.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT WAS PRIOR TO DOING THE RESEARCH ON THE NOISE LEVEL.
AND WHAT WE REALIZED WAS THAT IT, AS YOU KNOW, JERRY HAS CONFIRMED OUR RESEARCH, THERE'S JUST NOTHING OUT THERE THAT'S UNDER THAT LEVEL.
AND I DO THINK THAT THEN YOU'RE ALSO SLING OUT, UM, LEAF BLOWERS WHEN WE KNOW ALL THE OTHER, THE LAWN MOWERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE ARE PROBLEMATIC.
SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE TWO VERY DISTINCT ISSUES.
ONE IS A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT LIKE MANY OF OUR ORDINANCES, I THINK THAT HAPPEN THROUGHOUT ALL MUNICIPALITIES AND LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT GET OUTDATED AND NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND TRY AND SEE WHAT'S AN APPROPRIATE REASON FOR THAT.
BUT TO USE THE MOMENTUM ON TRYING TO BRING FORTH A BOROUGH THAT MIGHT AT LEAST GIVE RELIEF FOR PART OF THE YEAR TO PEOPLE
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AND ALSO GIVE RELIEF TO THE ENVIRONMENT FOR PART OF THE YEAR.IT WOULD BE A SHAME NOT TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT ON THE AGENDA AND HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, WE MAY HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS A WONDERFUL, INSIGHTFUL SOLUTION THAT TALKING AMONG OURSELVES, WE'VE NEVER RECOGNIZED, AND THIS DOES HAPPEN, AND THAT MIGHT BE REALLY WONDERFUL OR SOMEONE WILL COME FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT MAKES US REALIZE THAT THIS WOULD BE A TERRIBLE APPROACH.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS BECAUSE JUST SO WE CAN MOVE THIS AGENDA ALONG, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA TODAY, IS LET'S SAY WE WOULD PUT THIS ON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, UM, OF THE TOWN BOARD, THEN BETWEEN NOW AND THE TOWN BOARD, YOU KNOW, FRANCIS AND THE C A C UH, OR GINA, YOU KNOW, ANY BOARD MEMBER WHO HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PAROLE'S LAWYER, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD WORK WITH THE C A C, UM, AND SEE IF YOU COULD MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.
THEN WE HAVE THE HEARING, UH, THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, WE PROBABLY WON'T CLOSE THE HEARING THE FIRST TIME.
SO THEN, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO MAYBE HAVE A VOTE BY THE END OF FEBRUARY THAT GIVES US, UH, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO SEE IF WE COULD, UM, MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND THEN THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW THAT, UM, SAY BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, THE BOARD WILL HAVE A VOTE UPWARD DOWN AND THEN IT'S OVER.
YOU KNOW, IT GOES DOWN, GOES DOWN.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY THE TYPE, THIS IS A PHILOSOPHY, YOU KNOW, ISSUE.
THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO LIKE IT AND THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T.
SO IT'S NOT THE TYPE OF THING WHERE IF YOU ARE AGAINST A LAW, YOU'RE HORRIBLE HUMAN BEING A HORRIBLE ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO NOT WANT THE LAW.
YOU ALSO HAVE A RIGHT TO BE REALLY UPSET WITH THE NOISE FROM THE LEAF BLOWERS AND YOU WANT THE LAW SO WE VOTE AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CONTROVERSY.
I THINK THAT'S A, A VERY GOOD IDEA THAT WE ACTUALLY TRY TO WORK OUT A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE TOM BOARD AND THE C A C, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
UH, I'M GOING TO URGE THAT AND, AND, AND, AND YOU PLAY IT LIKE AS IF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO NO, I'M, I'M NOT FEELING HERE DECREASED.
NO, I I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR.
UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A TIME WHEN YOU, THE LEAVES ARE FALL, FALL FALLING, AND PART OF WHATEVER LAW THAT I WOULD VOTE FOR WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE IF WE, UNLESS WE'RE GONNA SAY WE'RE GONNA BAN LEAF BLOWERS 12 MONTHS A YEAR, I DON'T WANT A LAW THAT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE IT.
CERTAIN NUMBERS, UM, CERTAIN, UH, MONTHS OF THE YEAR, LIKE, LIKE IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER AND WHAT, WHAT, AND YET IN REALITY, OUR CODE DOESN'T ALLOW IT.
AND BECAUSE OUR, WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE NOISE ISSUE.
SO IF WE COULD GET BACK AND LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE YEAH, I THOUGHT WE WERE VERY CLOSE TO LAST TIME.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
SO THEN, SO THEN WHY DON'T, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE, UH, AT, AT WHAT THE NOISE LAWNMOWERS MAKE.
IF, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE, WHICH I THINK WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE, JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THE LEAF BLOWER PERSPECTIVE, FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM RICH AND JERRY IS THAT THAT'S NOT JUST ADDRESSING IT.
THE NOISE COMES FROM ALL OF THIS TYPE OF EQUIPMENT.
AND, AND SO THAT IS A, A PART OF THE ISSUE AS WELL.
SO MAYBE WE NEED TO SAY WHEN, IF SOMEBODY'S USING A LAWNMOWER, A LEAF BLOWER OR ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT, THAT THEY CAN USE THEM WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, EVEN THOUGH THEY VIOLATE OUR NOISE ORDINANCE.
WELL, YOU WANT BETWEEN, UH, SO WHY DON'T WE, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS STARTING TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT THAT WAS STARTING TO BE, THAT WAS BEING ADDRESSED IN THE EARLIER VERSION AND MAYBE THAT YOU HAVE TO EXEMPT LAWNMOWERS.
UH, I THOUGHT TERRY JUST SAID THAT SHE, THE ONLY THING FRANCIS, I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
AND WHAT WAS GOING BACK BETWEEN YOU AND AND TERRY IS THAT I THOUGHT SHE WAS SAYING THEY KIND OF ABANDONED IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEE A FEASIBLE WAY TO MANAGE THIS.
THAT, SEE, THAT WAS WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING NOW.
I MAY BE MISHEARING WHAT'S BEING SAID, BUT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD.
NO, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SHE SAID.
SHE'S, SHE DID LET, SHE DID NOT REALIZE THAT BASICALLY ALL THE LAW, ALL THE WAR, ALL THE BLOWERS WERE MORE THAN THE TOWN ORDINANCE.
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REALLY THOUGHT WHEN WE WENT THAT WAY, I'LL BE VERY HONEST, I WAS FLIPPING THROUGH THE LAW AND I SAID, WELL, WHAT IS THE LEVEL? AND I SAID, OH, WELL MAYBE WE COULD DO IT THIS WAY.WHICH AS IT TURNS OUT, THEN WE DID MORE RESEARCH AND FOUND OUT THAT BASICALLY THERE ARE NO BLOWERS THAT WOULD COME IN UNDER THAT.
THE OTHER PIECE OF IT WAS THAT WHEN YOU DO IT THAT WAY, YOU'RE DEPENDENT UPON SOMEONE REPORTING IT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVING TO GO OUT WITH EQUIPMENT, MEASURE THE LEVEL OF NOISE, BE THERE WHEN THE NOISE IS OCCURRING, TAKING POLICE RESOURCES.
IT'S, AND IT'S ALSO EVEN HARD FOR THE, UM, THE, THE LANDSCAPERS IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE BEING PUSHED BY THE HOMEOWNER.
WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE A SORT OF BLANKET LAW THAT SAYS, THOU SHALT NOT WITHIN THESE PERIODS, AND I WOULD SAY MOST OF THE, JUST ABOUT ALL THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE GLOBAL LAWS, THEY ARE BASED ON A CALENDAR PERIOD.
AND WHEN YOU DO IT THAT WAY, IT'S LIKE EVERYONE KNOWS DURING THAT PERIOD, YOU CANNOT USE A BLOWER DURING THESE PERIODS, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO USE A BLOWER.
SO IT MAKES A MUCH SIMPLER UNDERSTANDING AND ENFORCEMENT APPROACH.
SO I THINK WE ABANDONED WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY SUGGESTED BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN DATA DRIVEN AND WE DID RESEARCH AND THE DATA SHOWED THAT THE APPROACH WE WERE TAKING WASN'T A VIABLE APPROACH.
WELL, I THINK, SO THERE MIGHT BE A SOLUTION THERE.
IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT DURING THIS PERIOD YOU CAN USE A BLOWER, YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO PUT IN A PROVISION IN THERE.
IT'S NOT NOTWITHSTANDING THE NOISE ORDINANCE PROVISION.
AND, AND, AND THEN, THEN WE'RE JUST DOWN THE SINGLE ISSUE AS TO THE, UH, ACCOUNT EXEMPTING ITSELF FROM ITS OWN REGULATIONS, WHICH I THINK WE CAN DEAL WITH.
SO, SO CAN WE, UH, NEXT WEEK SCHEDULE IT FOR JU UH, FOR JANUARY 27TH, THE HEARING? SURE.
WE'D HAVE TO, WE'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH WORDING AS TO WHAT IS, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT.
BUT WE
AND WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA PROVE SOMETHING THAT NIGHT ANYWAY.
SO THIS WAY, JUST THIS WAY WE COULD START REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO ARE FOR, AGAINST THE LAW COULD PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR.
AND, UM, AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL WOULD BE, UM, BETWEEN JANUARY 27TH AND THE, THE FEBRUARY, UM, SAY, AND THEN WE, WE WOULD HAVE A SECOND HEARING ON FEBRUARY 10TH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE'VE DONE, WE COULD CLOSE THE HEAR BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE HAVE SO STRONG OPINIONS AND WE CLOSE THE HEARING ON FEBRUARY 10TH, AND THEN WE VOTE ON SOMETHING UP OR DOWN ON FEBRUARY 24TH, AND THEN WE HAVE A, A PLAN, AND THEN EVERYBODY KNOWS THERE'S A VOTE.
AND, UM, AND THEN WE MOVE ON AFTER FEBRUARY 24TH WITH ANOTHER ISSUE.
THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE WITH THAT IS, IS WE CAN SCHEDULE IT, BUT I DON'T WANNA PUT OUT THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE C A C LAW.
WE JUST, WE JUST MAY HAVE HAD A MEETING OF MINDS HERE.
AND SO WITHOUT SAYING THAT THIS IS THE VERSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON, UH, IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK OUT.
IT'S GONNA BE THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVE THE REST OF DECEMBER TO WORK OUT THE, THE, THE LINE, BUT WE HAVE DECEMBER CAN CONTINUE GET THERE.
SO, SO, SO NEXT WEEK ON DECEMBER 15TH, UH, WE WILL, UM, SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING ON LEAFBLOWER LAW FOR JANUARY 27TH.
YOU SEE, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.
SO WE, WE REALLY ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING.
CAN WE GET A, A REVISE DRAFT AFTER THE TOWN BOARD TO LOOK AT? NO, I THINK THIS IS, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
I WOULD, I WOULD CALL IT A LEAFBLOWER RELATED LAW, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S THAT IN THERE.
SO I REALLY WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS AND YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT WILL BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE THE INSURANCE, UH, COMMITTEE.
UH, WE HAVE YOU HAVE PROPOSED LAW TO REMOVE PROPERTY.
OH YEAH, THAT'S REALLY, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON.
WE GOT AN EMAIL TODAY, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM SOMEBODY WHO WAS VERY UPSET, HE FEELS THAT, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP REQUIREMENT OF, UH, HARTSDALE PARKING COMMISSIONERS VIOLATES, UM, UH, FEDERAL, YOU KNOW, DISCRIMINATION, UM, YOU KNOW, LAWS.
AND, UM, WE BROUGHT THIS UP, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, BUT NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.
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WE SHOULD JUST, UH, REACH, PASS A, A RESOLUTION ASKING, UH, THE STATE IF THEY WOULD, UH, AUTHORIZE, UH, THE REMOVAL OF THAT, THE PROVISION IN THE LAW, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER BOARD COMMITTEE BESIDES THE HARTSDALE PARTON, UM, COMMISSION, UM, LET'S ANYBODY SERVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULD BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.YOU COULD BE A TENANT, YOU COULD BE TOWN SUPERVISOR, YOU COULD BE A TENANT, YOU COULD BE A SENATOR, YOU COULD BE A CONGRESSPERSON.
UM, DON'T ONLY, UH, POSITION THAT YOU CAN'T, UH, THAT YOU NEED TO BE.
UM, A PROPERTY OWNER IS HARTSDALE PARKING COMMISSIONER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY THINK THE LAST TIME THAT HAPPENED WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY BESIDES HARTSDALE WAS PROBABLY BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR.
YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL IT'S TOTAL DISCRIMINATION.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY SURE WE, WE MIGHT, SINCE THE, THE DISTRICT WAS CREATED BY, UH, THE STATE, WE, WE MIGHT NEED STATE LEGISLATION.
IF, IF WE DON'T NEED STATE LEGISLATION, WE COULD JUST P**S A LOCAL LAW.
I THINK THAT, DIDN'T THIS COME UP LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE? AND FOR SOME REASON, OR RATHER, WE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LIABLE FOR THE BONDS.
WELL, THAT WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER, I DON'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS, BUT, UM, THERE WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES.
BUT I, I STILL FEEL THAT THE HARSDALE PARKING DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, BOARD, IT'S AN APPOINTED BOARD BY, BY THE TOWN BOARD.
AND I JUST FIND THAT IT'S, UH, LIKE OFFENSIVE.
UM, ESPECIALLY IT'S OFFENSIVE, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIMES WHEN EVERYBODY'S FOCUSING ON DISCRIMINATION AND, UH, RACISM TO PROHIBIT PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT AS WEALTHY, UM, DON'T HAVE THE, THE MEANS TO, UM, HAVE PROPERTY.
UH, AND WE'RE BASICALLY DENYING THEM THE RIGHT TO SERVE IN A GOVERNMENT POSITION.
IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T SOUND GOOD.
EXPENSIVE, BUT I THOUGHT WE WENT THROUGH THIS.
UM, THE STATE, IF THE STATE CHANGES THE LAW, UH, THEN WE COULD DO WHATEVER WE WANT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S EITHER, IT'S EITHER WE CAN CHANGE THE LAW OR WE CAN CHANGE THE LAW, BUT WE'VE NEVER, UM, AS A BOARD REACHED OUT TO THE STATE SAYING, COULD THEY CHANGE THE, THE, THE ORIGINAL PROVISIONS? AND TIM, ARE YOU, YOU ON THE LINE? YES.
UM, YOU ARE FAILING, IS IT NEEDS STATE LEGISLATION, RIGHT? I BELIEVE IT NEEDS STATE, STATE LEGISLATION, YES.
THE STATE'S EITHER GONNA APPROVE IT OR THEY'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE IT.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST OFFENSIVE LAWS THAT I, I'VE EVER, UH, YOU KNOW, HEARD.
AND, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO, UH, WE, THE BOARD APPOINTED SOMEBODY, AND I THINK THERE WAS A LAWSUIT, YOU KNOW, HE WASN'T ABLE TO SERVE, UH, BARRY KESSLER BECAUSE HE WASN'T A PROPERTY OWNER.
HIS, HIS WIFE WAS A PROPERTY OWNER.
YEAH, I, I RECALL SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
BUT, SO WE COULDN'T DO IT BY LOCAL LAW.
WE WOULD'VE TO GET STATE LEGISLATION TO CHANGE IT.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE PASSING A, A, A PROPOSED LAW THAT WOULD JUST REMOVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
WOULD THAT BE A HOME RULE REQUEST? IT WOULD BE A HOME RULE, YES.
DOES, I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON? OR, YOU KNOW, WHY JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE OFFENDED BY THIS THAN OTHER PEOPLE? BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S JUST LIKE, I, I FEEL LIKE WE WENT DOWN THIS ROAD AND
SO IT WASN'T THAT THE STATE REJECTED IT.
THERE'S A LAWSUIT AT ONE POINT.
UM, BUT THIS IS BASICALLY CHANGING THE LAW, RIGHT?
SO TIM, SO WOULD THERE BE, UH, IS THAT, WOULD THE BOARD BE OPEN TO HAVING TIM DRAFT A, A HOME RULE REQUEST? WELL, MAY, MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE CAN PUT IT ON AN AGENDA AND, AND HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS AND SEE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THEY THINK.
SO SHOULD WE PUT IT ON FOR THE, UH, THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY? UH, SURE.
SO MAYBE ON THE 15TH, WE COULD JUST SCHEDULE IT.
NOW WE HAVE INSURANCE VENDOR REVIEW.
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ALL RIGHT.SO THE USUAL STUFF AT THE BEGINNING, UM, WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS.
THE HIGH, HIGH VIEW, UM, SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE COMING BY ZOOM.
ALL RIGHT? AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE, UM, THE PEN JUST DIED.
UM, WE HAVE, UM,
AND HOW ARE WE HONORING ELECTION INSPECTORS? YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GET THAT MANY.
WE'RE JUST GONNA RECOGNIZE THE ELECTION INSPECTORS.
YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T GET THAT MANY, UM, RESPONSES.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB AND ACKNOWLEDGING PEOPLE WHO, UM, UM, HAVE, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERED, INCLUDING YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, WORKED VERY HARD.
AND, UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND GINA AND KEN AND HIS WIFE AND, UM, DIANA, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND MIKE BRODER DID A REALLY GOOD JOB.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY AN EXCELLENT, UH, TEAM EFFORT.
PAUL, MAY, I RECOMMEND, WE SUGGEST THAT WE, THAT WE CHANGE THAT, UM, THAT, UH, TITLE TO SAY HONORING THE TOWN OF GREENBERG'S EARLY VOTING AND ELECTION DAY TEAM, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT, WHAT THIS, WHAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, YOU ARE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZING THE STAFF AND THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS WHO ALL CAME TOGETHER TO, UM, UH, ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A SMOOTH RUNNING, BASICALLY SEAMLESS ELECTIONS PROCESS FOR BOTH EARLY VOTING AND ON ELECTIONS DAY.
SO, AND, AND THEN ALSO YOU INVITED THE COMMISSIONERS FROM THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS, BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE THAT THIS WAS A TEAM EFFORT.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I'M WILLING TO SAY THAT, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN, IN MY TENURE, THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST, THIS WAS JUST ONE OF THE MOST POSITIVE, SMOOTH RUNNING ELECTIONS PROCESSES.
AND IN, IN A TIME WHEN, UM, IT WAS JUST CHAOS GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTRY.
BUT WE CAME TOGETHER HERE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
I JUST WONDER, THERE'S JUST ONE OTHER PRESENTATION THAT I FORGOT.
UM, UH, THERE'S A YOUNG MAN, UH, PERSON, WESLEY, UH, NIHAR, WHO LIVES IN, UH, THE COTSWOLD SECTION OF EDMONT WHO STARTED, UM, UH, WESTCHESTER DIAPER BANK, UM, DRIVE.
AND, UM, HE PUT LIKE A, A LOC HE'S MAKING HIS HOUSE, UM, A LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE COULD DROP OFF, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, DIAPERS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LESS FORTUNATE.
AND THIS IS THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
SO I'VE INVITED HIM TO SPEAK FOR JUST A COUPLE MINUTES AND, UH, AND TRY PUBLICIZING, UM, HIS GENER GENEROUS, UM, INITIATIVE.
UH, YOU JUST SENT ME THE, UH, THE LETTER.
I JUST, I JUST, UH, SENT IT TO THE TOWN BOARD A SECOND AGO.
UH, YOU DID? YEAH, I, I GOT IT.
LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, THAT'S RIGHT.
AND THEN UNDERNEATH IT IS HIS, UH, THING.
IT'S JUST WESLEY, UH, NIHART AND JUST A, UH, DIAPER BANK.
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL FIX IT UP FOR TOMORROW.
I JUST, UM, SENT THE PRINCIPAL OF FIVE, YOU JUST CONFIRMING THAT THE STUDENTS ARE GONNA PARTICIPATE.
WELL, ANY, ANYBODY WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE INVITED, SEND ME THE EMAILS.
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COME UP LATER ON DOWN THE, UH, DOWN ON THE AGENDA.WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET, UH, WHICH IS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
UH, THERE'LL BE SOME SLIP SHEETS, WHICH, UM, UH, NOT MANY, BUT THERE'LL BE SOME SLIP SHEETS, UH, THAT GO ALONG WITH THE TENANT OF BUDGET, WHICH MAKES IT A PRELIMINARY BUDGET.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING ON EAGLE ENERGY STORAGE.
GARETH, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? YEAH, JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, UM, GOING TO THE LAST TOWN BOARD MEETING, UH, WE HAD NOT RECEIVED A PLANNING BOARD, UH, RECOMMENDATION ON THE SITE PLAN.
UH, WE NOW HAVE THAT, I EMAILED IT OUT MONDAY, UH, CONTAINS A SERIES OF, UH, MITIGATIONS THAT I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
UH, IT ALSO CONTAINS, UH, PLANNING BOARD'S OPINION ABOUT THE USE, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO A BIT TOMORROW.
I BELIEVE THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBER, UH, MAY BE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING SPEAKING ABOUT THAT, THAT, UH, THAT OPINION.
UM, AND, UH, YEAH, UPDATES FROM THE APPLICANT.
DO YOU HAVE THE, ALL THESE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT THIS POSTED UNDER, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY, UH, UM, I'M SORRY, OF THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND DEVELOPMENT ON YOUR WEBSITE? OR ARE THERE ANY KEY ONES THAT WE CAN MOVE OVER TO THE ACTUAL, UH, AGENDA? YEAH, I THINK WE'LL DUPLICATE THAT.
WE STARTED THAT PROCESS WITH JOAN TODAY.
WE'LL, UH, MAKE SURE THE FIRST THING TOMORROW EVERYTHING'S UP.
INCLUDING THE RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDATION'S.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE SENT OVER, UH, THIS MORNING.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING BUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AT THE MOMENT.
AND WE HAVE, UH, UM, I THINK, UH, FINAL VERSION OF, UH, DEALING WITH THE DRUG RACING, UM, FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT CONTRACT, UM, DEALING WITH THE TECHNICALITY THAT WE HAD TO RESOLVE, I GATHERED, UH, WITH THE TB FOUR, UH, WITH THE M T A.
UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY VERY GOOD NEWS, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WITH THE BUDGET PROBLEMS THAT MTSS HAVING, THAT THE ELEVATOR, THE DALE TRAIN STATION WAS GONNA BE, UH, DELAYED.
DO YOU HAVE LIKE AN UPDATE IN TERMS OF THE TIMING? WE'LL GET AN UPDATE.
I THINK WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE TO, UM, BE READY IN CASE THAT DELAY, UM, ENDS OR, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, MORATORIUM CEASES ON THEIR, ON THAT PROJECT.
BUT I WILL REACH OUT TO FIND OUT.
HAVE, HAVE, HAVE THEY, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THE, UH, THE PARKING DISTRICT, AND I THINK HOULAHAN LAWRENCE, WHO ALSO OWN PROPERTY IN THE AREA, ARE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE M T A, BUT THEY'RE CLOSE TO BEING FINALIZING.
AND ONCE THEY'RE FINALIZED, THEN THE PARK, UH, M T A WILL TALK ABOUT THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE RECONSTRUCTION PRO PROJECT, WHICH IS ESTIMATED TO TAKE ABOUT 20 MONTHS.
WILL WE BE READY TO VOTE ON THIS TOMORROW NIGHT? I'M SORRY? UH, WILL ANY OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO VOTE ON THIS TOMORROW NIGHT? NO, I WILL NOT.
I JUST WANTED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM LINE,
ALL RIGHT THEN, UH, WE HAVE SOME AT RESOLUTIONS, UH, SPECIAL COUNSEL, UH, UH, BEING RETAINED, UH, WESTCOTT FOR SERVICES THAT THEY'VE RENDERED, UH, CLOSING, UH, SOME STREETS RELATED TO, UH, THE HOLIDAYS.
CD ONE IS WITH RESPECT TO THE HILLSIDE AVENUE, UH, SIDEWALK OF WHICH, UH, FUNDED BY PRIMARILY THROUGH A GRANT THROUGH NEW YORK STATE.
AND THAT'S SIMPLY A RESOLUTION, UH, DECLARING THE TOWN BOARD'S INTENT TO BE LEAD AGENCY.
SO, UH, WE'RE SEEKING TO, YOU KNOW, COMPLY PROPERLY WITH THE, THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.
UM, SO THAT'S THE RESOLUTION THERE.
AND THEN CD TWO IS, UM, FOLLOWS ON THE HEELS OF THE ADOPTION OF THE SPECIAL PERMIT PERMIT FOR THE C C F, UH, USE AS A, AS A ZONING AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS, UH, PRIMARILY DONE BY THE TOWN BOARD.
AND AT THIS POINT, WE NOW HAVE A FORMAL APPLICATION, UH, FOR, FOR THE, UH, THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY THERE ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD METROPOLIS.
SO THAT'S THE OFFICIAL REFERRAL OF THE, UH, C C F PROPOSAL, UM, BY BRIGHTVIEW METROPOLIS.
SO THAT WILL BE SENT TO THE PLANNING BOARD, AND, UH,
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THEY'LL MEET WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND PRESENT AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION.AND THEN I THINK, UH, AARON, IF YOU'RE HONOR, I THINK AARON HAS A BRIEF UPDATE FOR BOTH CD THREE AND CD FOUR FOR US.
FINER ARE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, AARON SCHMIDT, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
AS YOU KNOW, THE TOWN TREE ORDINANCE CHAPTER TWO 60 OF THE TOWN CODE ENTITLED TREES COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT, IS SCHEDULED TO TAKE EFFECT ON MONDAY, JANUARY 4TH, 2021, TO ASSIST TOWN STAFF WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW LAW, AS WELL AS ASSISTING RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, AND THOSE CONDUCTING BUSINESS WITH RESPECT TO TREES IN THE TOWN.
IN UNDERSTANDING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NEW LAW, THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS PREPARED A TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL, WHICH I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER ADOPTING AT YOUR MEETING TOMORROW EVENING.
THE MANUAL ESTABLISHES GUIDELINES, STANDARDS, SPECIFICATIONS AND PROCEDURES NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW LAW AND TO ACHIEVE THE TOWN'S TREE PRESERVATION AND PLANTING GOALS.
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, WHICH SUPPORTED THE ADOPTION OF THE NEW LAW, ALSO HAS EXPRESSED ITS SUPPORT FOR ADOPTION OF THE MANUAL.
THE MANUAL WILL BE SUBJECT TO MODIFICATION FROM TIME TO TIME BY THE TOWN FORESTRY OFFICER AS INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES EVOLVE.
LASTLY, THE MANUAL WILL BE MADE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
AND THIS COMPLIMENTS THE, THE CHAPTER TWO 60, WHICH WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE VERY SHORTLY, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.
UH, CD FOUR IS, I COULD RUN THROUGH THAT VERY QUICKLY.
UM, IN CONNECTION WITH THE NEWTOWN TREE ORDINANCE TO EFFECTIVELY ADMINISTER THE LOCAL LAW, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RELA, UH, OF A RELATED FEE SCHEDULE IS NECESSARY THROUGH RESEARCH CONDUCTED BY THE DEPARTMENT, AND IN COORDINATION WITH THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE TOWN BOARD SET THE APPLICATION FEE AS $50 PER TREE FEES.
FOR APPLICATIONS TO REMOVE ONE OR TWO TREES IN A CALENDAR YEAR SHALL BE 50% OF THE OTHERWISE APPLICABLE FEE.
SO EFFECTIVELY $25 PER TREE FOR UP TO FIR UP TO THE FIRST TWO TREES PER CALENDAR YEAR.
ADDITIONALLY, NO FEE WILL BE CHARGED IN CONNECTION WITH THE REMOVAL OF INVASIVE SPECIES OF TREES AS OUTLINED WITHIN THE LAW.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT AS WELL.
AND WE HAVE TWO CONTROLLER RESOLUTIONS.
ONE DEALING WITH BUDGET TRANSFERS FROM THIS YEAR, AND ANOTHER RETAINING, UM, FINANCIAL ADVISORS, UM, FROM JANUARY, 2020 TO DECEMBER, 2021.
SO, ROBERTA, ARE WE BEHIND A YEAR? YEAH, I, WE REALIZED THAT WE HADN'T SENT IT IN EARLIER.
SO WE'VE BEEN WITHOUT FINANCIAL ADVICE.
ALL RIGHT, THEN WE HAVE, UH, THE POLICE, THE CHIEF ON, UM, I TOLD THE GIRL IF WE NEEDED HIM, UH, WE'LL CALL HIM.
WELL, IT, UH, I COULD GO THROUGH IT THEN.
I GUESS, UM, JUST FIXING SOMETHING HERE.
UH, FIRST ONE IS, UH, ENTERING INTO AGREEMENT WITH A, UH, COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER.
IT'S AN I M A, UH, TO EXTEND AN, OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT REGARDING D W I STOPS FOR, UH, FIVE YEARS.
ANOTHER AGREEMENT, UH, REGARDING WITH THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER.
IT'S AN I M A IN TERMS THIS LITTLE AGREEMENT, UH, REGARDING MUTUAL AID AND RAPID RESPONSE, UM, PROMOTING, UM, SERGEANT ULTO TO POLICE LIEUTENANT AND, UH, POLICE OFFICER, UH, MARK MADDEN TO POLICE SERGEANT, AND THEN AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO RENEW ANOTHER INTO MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE VILLAGES, UH, REGARDING OUR SPECIAL WEAPONS AND, UH, TACTICS UNIT, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SWAT.
AND THEN WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS.
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ARE YOU ON? YES, I'M ON.ALRIGHT, I, I ASSUME WE NEED THE CHEMICALS FOR THE WATER TREATMENT.
THIS, THIS IS, UH, A YEARLY BID THAT WE GO OUT FOR.
AND THIS IS FOR THE TREATMENT OF, UH, OUR WATER SYSTEM.
YOU'RE SUGGESTING WE PUT THE CHEMICALS IN
OH, TERRENCE, RIGHT? GOOD EVENING.
SHOULD WE ACCEPT THE DONATION? UM,
SO ANYWAY, THE DALE GREENBERG ROTARY CLUB IS, UH, DONE, HAD DONATED A THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND WE HAVE TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT IT.
AND, UH, AND YOU ARE URGING US TO DO THAT, I ASSUME.
ARE THESE THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS YOU ASK YOUR STUDENTS? UH, ASK? QUITE, NOT QUITE, QUITE, NOT QUITE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND YOU
I GET A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, YOU'LL HAVE PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING PARTICULAR PEOPLE, AND YOU ALSO HAVE SOME CONTRACTUAL, UH, NEGOTIATIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
YOU ARE MAKING THAT MOTION, PAUL.
WE'RE NOT COMING BACK AND WE'RE NOT COMING BACK TONIGHT.
WE WILL BE BACK TOMORROW NIGHT.