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GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.UH, WELCOME TARA GREENBERG, UH, TOWN, UH, BOARD MEETING.
TODAY IS DECEMBER 9TH AT 7:45 PM WE HAVE A BUSY, UH, AGENDA, AND WE'RE GONNA START RIGHT NOW.
[ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WI NATION UNDER INDIVISIBLE, VISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
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OOPS, SORRY.TOWN SUPERVISOR PAUL FINER HERE.
COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEN, PRESENT TOWN.
COUNCILMAN KEN JONES, PRESENT TOWN COUNCILWOMAN.
AND THE TOWN CLERK IS PRESENT.
SHE'S JUST LOGGING IN AND HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY.
[ MOMENT OF SILENCE In memory of the 280,000+ victims of COVID-19 who have died this year in the United States (at a current rate of 1 person dying every 30 seconds), 1,520,000+ deaths worldwide]
OF SILENCE.A MEMORY OF 288,000 PLUS VICTIMS OF C OVID 19, WHO HAVE DIED THIS YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES AT A CURRENT RATE OF ONE PERSON DYING EVERY 37 SECONDS.
1,565,000 PLUS DEATHS WORLDWIDE.
[ PRESENTATION Highview School Students - PSA's on Pedestrian Safety, Michael McHale/Highview Librarian & Lab Teacher Wesley Neidhardt/Junior at Edgemont High School - Westchester Diaper Bank Honoring Early Voting & Election Day Team ]
ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE, UM, UM, SOME HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, UM, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS ON PEDESTRIAN, UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY.UM, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL, UM, ON, UM, THE HIREVUE, UM, SCHOOL TEAM, UH, TO, UH, DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
ACTUALLY, ON THE BOTTOM OF, UM, ALL THE EMAILS, UM, THAT WE SEND OUT, UH, WE HAVE A, A LINK TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE HIVE SCHOOL, UM, PREPARED.
HI, UH, MY NAME IS MICHAEL MCHALE.
I'M A TEACHER AT HIGHVIEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU TO MR. FINER FOR ISSUING THIS CHALLENGE.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT A FEW MONTHS AGO, UH, SUPERVISOR FINER CHALLENGED THE STUDENTS OF GREENBURG TO CREATE, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR WALKING SAFE DURING THE EVENINGS.
AS THE SUN GOES DOWN EARLIER AND EARLIER, UM, MY SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, MR. MR. STR, BROUGHT THIS CHALLENGE TO THE HIGH VIEW INNOVATION LAB.
THE INNOVATION LAB IS A PLACE WHERE KIDS GET TO CREATE AND BUILD THINGS AND MAKE STUFF, AND I WAS ABLE TO RECRUIT FIVE STUDENTS TO MAKE A P S A, UH, ABOUT SAFE WALKING IN THE EVENINGS.
HARU IZUMI, JOSE CAPTO, CADEN, VICTORIA SAMUEL WEINTRAUB, AND ESME IVES ALL STEPPED UP TO DO THEIR CIVIC DUTY TO MAKE A P SS A FOR THEIR FELLOW STUDENTS.
ALL OF THESE STUDENTS ARE THIRD GRADERS, AND THIS VIDEO IS ENTIRELY THEIRS FROM IDEATION TO CREATION.
UM, THEY WROTE THE SCRIPT, THEY CREATED THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION.
ALL OF IT WAS BASED ON THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT'S, UH, PEDESTRIAN GUIDELINES.
UH, I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAVE AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL RESOURCE ONLINE FOR, UH, WALKING SAFE IN THE EVENINGS.
THESE THIRD GRADERS WERE ABLE TO PUT IT TOGETHER IN A WEEK.
UH, I SWEAR ALL I DID WAS PROVIDE THE CHALLENGE AND A SPACE FOR THEM TO MEET THAT CHALLENGE.
UH, AND A BIT OF EDITING AT THE END.
AND THIS VIDEO'S A TESTAMENT TO WHAT KIDS CAN DO, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF FREEDOM TO EXPLORE AND CREATE.
SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO SUPERVISOR FINER AND MY PRINCIPAL OF MR. MRR AND THE G P D, AND OF COURSE, UH, HAR JOSE.
CADEN SAMUEL AND ESME, AND THEIR PARENTS FOR HELPING OUT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH THE VIDEO RIGHT NOW, BUT EXCELLENT.
WE NEED THE THIRD GRADE TEAM TO HELP US WITH TECHNOLOGY.
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MY NAME IS SAMUEL LEE TROUB, AND I'M A THIRD GRADER AT HIGH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.HI, MY NAME'S ESMA AND I'M A THIRD GRADER AT HIGH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU SAFETY PROCEDURES OF WALKING AT NIGHT WEAR CLOTHES WITH BRIGHT COLORS SO DRIVERS CAN SEE IT.
YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BRING A FLASHLIGHT SO YOU CAN SEE BETTER AT NIGHT AT AN INTERSECTION.
YOU SHOULD WAIT FOR CARS TO STOP MOVING BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET, AND IF THERE'S A GREEN HAND, YOU SHOULD GO.
BUT IF THERE'S A RED HAND, YOU SHOULD NOT GO.
YOU SHOULD ALWAYS WALK ON THE SIDEWALKS IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE, IF THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS WALK ON THE EDGE OF THE ROAD AND, AND FACE THE CAR'S HEADLIGHTS.
THAT WAY IT IS EASIER FOR THE DRIVERS TO SEE YOU KEEP ALERT AT ALL TIMES.
DO NOT BE DISTRACTED BY THINGS THAT TAKE YOUR SENSES OFF THE ROAD.
DO NOT PLAY YOUR ELECTRONIC DEVICE WHILE ON THE ROAD OR ON THE SIDEWALK.
YOU SHOULD ALWAYS WALK ON SIDEWALKS IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE, IF CROSSWALK OR AN INTERSECTION IS NOT AVAILABLE, LOCATE A WELLA AREA WHERE YOU HAVE THE BEST OF TRAFFIC.
TRAFFIC THAT ALLOWS YOU TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET SAFELY.
CONTINUE TO WATCH THE TRAFFIC AS YOU CROSS WATCH FOR CARS ENTERING YOUR EXIT DRIVEWAY.
YOU'RE BACKING UP IN PARKING LOT.
IF YOU HAVE ONE, YOU SHOULD BRING A G P S SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU ARE ON THE MAP AND NOT GET LOST.
I HOPE YOU FOLLOW THESE RULES AND HAVE A SAFE HALLOWEEN.
AND, UM, YEAH, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT, UM, IF, UM, YOU RECOGNIZE, UH, SAM, UM, HE'S BEEN AT TOWN BOARD MEETINGS BECAUSE HE RIGHT NOW IS, UM, HE, HE IS A, BESIDES BEING A THIRD GRADER, HE ALSO IS AN ACTOR AND, UM, HAS PERFORMED IN BROADWAY AND HAS ALSO, UM, DONE SOME, UM, UM, MUSICAL NUMBERS, UM, THAT WE'VE, UM, AIRED ON THE TOWN, UH, WEBSITE IN, IN THE PAST.
SO, UM, IT JUST HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT THE HY-VEE SCHOOL HAS SOME AMAZING, UM, STUDENTS.
AMAZING, UH, YOU KNOW, TEACHERS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, WHO HAVE HAD DOUBTS ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT YOU COULD GET A REALLY FANTASTIC EDUCATION AT THE GREENBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE, UH, MICHAEL DEFINITELY DON'T GET STOLEN BY ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE A GREAT ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, I, I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION, UM, THAT, UM, I FORMED A YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL, UM, OF SEVENTH GRADERS.
UM, AND THEY'RE AT THE EDGEMONT UM, SCHOOLS.
AND I MEET WITH 'EM, UM, EVERY MONDAY, UH, AROUND SIX 30.
AND I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR OVER A MONTH.
AND ONE OF THE, WE MET THIS PAST, UH, MONDAY, UH, WE HAVE BETWEEN EIGHT AND 11, UH, STUDENTS WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THIS YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION THEY MADE ON MONDAY WAS TO TRY GETTING MASKS, UH, MADE THAT WOULD BE REFLECTIVE USING RE REFLECTIVE MATERIAL.
AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF MAYBE, UM, THAT COULD BE A PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ART PROGRAMS AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE GREENBERG SCHOOLS MIGHT, MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE IDEA, AND I WILL BRING IT TO THE INNOVATION LAB FOR THE KIDS TO, UH, TO GIVE A TRY OUT.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, IF, IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND YOU, MR. FUNER, HAVE ANY OTHER CHALLENGES THAT YOU WANT YOUR STUDENTS TO, TO MEET, PLEASE BRING THEM TO HIGH VIEW.
UH, I KNOW THE INNOVATION LAB WOULD REALLY LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO DO OUR CIVIC PART.
UH, ARE THE ACTORS HERE? WE HAD SOME SCHEDULING ISSUES.
OH, DID I HEAR YOU? YES, SAMUEL.
SO, UM, UH, WE, UH, WE ARE WONDERING IF YOU COULD JUST TELL US, UM,
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ABOUT YOUR, YOUR ROLE IN CREATING THIS, UM, THIS VIDEO.UH, WELL, I WAS CHOSEN AS ONE OF THE HOSTS, UM, AND LIKE I DO ONE HALF OF THE VIDEO, AND ESME DOES THE OTHER, AND IT'S A LOT OF FUN.
SO HOPEFULLY I CAN GET YOUR AUTO, CAN WE GET YOUR AUTOGRAPH? CAN YOU SEND US AN AUTOGRAPH? HE'S GONNA BE, SAMUEL IS GOING BE, UM, ON NEXT SEASON, UH, THREE EPISODES OF SESAME STREET.
HE DID THREE SCENES WITH ELMO.
AND, AND WHERE WERE YOU? EXCITING.
CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PREVIOUS PERFORMANCES? OH, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
UH, WELL, ACTUALLY, YEAH, BUT THIS ONE, NOT FOUR, FOUR
RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
WHICH, WHICH WAS YOUR FAVORITE ONE? UH, PROBABLY, UM, UH, MOTHERHOOD.
HE DID THE OTHER HOOD ON NETFLIX WITH PATRICIA ETTE.
AND THE FACT IS, I COULDN'T EVEN WATCH THE MOVIE BECAUSE IT WAS TOO GROWN UP
BUT YOU ABLE TO SEE YOUR PIECE, RIGHT? YOU GOTTA SEE YOUR PIECE IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MOVIE WITH PATRICIA AR HE'S GIVING HIM A PIANO LESSON THAT'S ON.
IT'S STILL, YOU CAN STILL WATCH IT, IT'S ON NETFLIX.
IT'S CALLED OTHERHOOD OTHERHOOD BEGINNING, VERY OPENING OF THE MOVIE.
UM, THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WATCH THE MOVIE AND YOU'LL GET A KICK OUTTA WATCHING YOURSELF
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT, UM, SINCE WE HAVE A, A YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL AT EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL, OR EDGEMONT SCHOOLS, THAT, UM, FOR, UH, UH, AN EQUITABLE, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING FROM, FROM AN EQUITABLE PERSPECTIVE, THAT WE SHOULD ALSO CREATE A YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL AT WOODLANDS HIGH SCHOOL.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO JOIN YOU IN THAT EFFORT IN CREATING A SIMILAR YOUTH COUNCIL AT WOODLANDS HIGH SCHOOL, AND, UM, WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TO START, UM, SUCH AN INITIATIVE, UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW, REALLY, UM, OVER THE YEARS I'VE TRIED, UH, FORMING THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR, UM, WITH EDGEMONT, I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, LUCKY, UH, IN THE PAST I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH SUCCESSES, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, WHETHER HIGH VIEWS STUDENTS WOULD LIKE TO, UM, UH, HAVE A YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL AND WE COULD MEET AND CHAT WITH SOME STUDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN, UM, GOVERNMENT OR WOODLANDS HIGH SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.
BUT THIS WOULD GO FOR ANY OF THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE GOAL WOULD BE TO CREATE A YOUTH, TO GET AS MANY YOUNG PEOPLE INTERESTED IN, IN PUBLIC SERVICE AND GOVERNMENT AT AN EARLY AGE, AND TO LET THEM FEEL THAT THEY COULD REALLY MAKE AN IMPACT.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, A STUDENT, YOU KNOW, IF A STUDENT SUGGESTS REFLECTIVE MIS AND THEY SEE IT HAPPENING, THEN THEY'RE GONNA FEEL REALLY GOOD.
OR IF THERE'S A SIDEWALK THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON AND WE ACTUALLY GET IT BUILT, THEN THEY'RE GONNA FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEING LISTENED TO.
OR STUDENTS AT HIGH VIEW MAY, UM, WANT TO TALK ABOUT PLAYGROUNDS OR, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WILL MAKE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE BETTER.
THE, THE GOAL IS TO TEACH THEM HOW TO GET INVOLVED AND TO HELP THEM, UH, BECOME EFFECTIVE, UM, CITIZEN ACTORS.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS.
AND, UM, I'M SURE THAT I'LL ONE DAY, UM, UM, WHEN WE WANNA SPEAK TO SAM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY A THOUSAND DOLLARS A TICKET.
SO
UM, NEXT, UM, WANNA RECOGNIZE, UM, UM, OUR EARLY VOTING AND ELECTION DAY, UM, YOU KNOW, INSPECTORS AND STAFF, UH, JUDITH BEVILLE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD.
FRANCIS SHEEN WAS HERE EVERY SINGLE, UH, DAY.
UM, GINA JACKSON, UM, PROVIDED ASSISTANCE ON ELECTION DAY.
UH, KEN JONES AND HIS WIFE, UH, DIANA JUTTER.
EVERYBODY, UH, PITCHED IN, YOU KNOW, MICHAEL BRODER, UM, UM, FROM, UH, THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, WORKED TIRELESSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, QUERY, UM, OUR SECURITY GUARD, UM, HELPED OUT A LOT.
IT REALLY WAS A FANTASTIC, YOU KNOW, EFFORT.
WE STREAMED OUR MEET AT THE VOTING LOCATIONS.
WE HAD EARLY VOTING LINES, SPECIAL LINES FOR THE
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DISABLED.AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, REALLY WERE APPRECIATIVE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE ELECTION DAY INSPECTORS, UM, WHO CAME IN EARLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE STRESSED OUT.
UH, SOME PEOPLE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE PANDEMIC, AND THEY REALLY HELPED MAKE DEMOCRACY WORK.
UM, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DESERVE, THEY'RE UNSU UNSUNG HEROES, BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR, UM, THEIR EFFORTS.
AND I'M WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANY OF THE, UM, MEMBERS OF THE ELECTION, UM, TEAM, YOU KNOW, HERE.
WELL, AGAIN, WELL, WELL, WELL, PAUL, IF RE, IF REGGIE'S NOT HERE, UM, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, THIS WAS AN, AN EXTRAORDINARY TEAM EFFORT, UM, REPRESENTING A COLLABORATION, UM, BETWEEN THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND, UM, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND OUR, OUR TEAM OVER THE PAST, UM, MANY YEARS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE, THE, UM, TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE, ALONG WITH DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, BUILDING MAINTENANCE, AND, UM, REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE COME FORWARD TO VOLUNTEER AND TO ASSIST US, UM, DURING ELECTIONS THIS YEAR WAS JUST EXCEPTIONAL.
UM, I, I CANNOT THANK, UM, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO YOU'VE MENTIONED ENOUGH OF STARTING WITH THE COORDINATION, UH, IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE, STARTING WITH JOELLEN THOMAS, OUR DEPUTY TOWN CLERK, WHO WAS THE MAIN CONTACT PERSON, THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS, AND ARRANGING FOR THE, THE, UM, ASSIGNMENT AND PICK UP OF, OF MACHINES.
THAT IS A TASK, A MAJOR TASK IN AND OF ITSELF.
UM, THEN WITH ALL OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE, VICTORIA ROBINSON, WHO IS HERE, TARA, TARA BANKS, I THINK TARA IS ON TONIGHT AS WELL.
AND LOUIS BELTRAN, UH, AS WELL AS JANELLE.
UM, THEY WERE ALL VERY MUCH A PART OF OUR TEAM.
AND THEN MICHAEL BRODER, I MEAN, I, I I, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW HE OPERATED FROM SIX 30 IN THE MORNING UNTIL WHENEVER AT NIGHT.
AND WHEN I SAY WHENEVER, I MEAN WHENEVER, BECAUSE ON ANY GIVEN DAY, THE LINES COULD BE SO LONG THAT THE LAST VOTER CAME IN TWO OR THREE HOURS LATER THAN THE END OF THE VOTING DAY.
AND MICHAEL WAS THERE UNTIL THE VERY END.
MIKE ALSO HAD, UH, MEMBERS FROM, UH, THE HIS D P W TEAM ASSISTING.
UM, WE HAD MEMBERS FROM THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, UM, UM, FELICIA, UM, HELPING US OUT, FELICIA PURVIS.
UH, IT, IT WAS JUST AN AMAZING EFFORT.
AND FROM DAY ONE, FRANCIS WAS THERE MONITORING THE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT PEOPLE STOOD IN LINE SO THAT HE COULD COMMUNICATE.
I DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT HE WAS DOING WITH THOSE, UM, WITH THE SIGNAGE AND, AND THE TIME UNTIL I, I SAID TO HIM, WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS THIS SETUP? HE HAD SET UP THIS ELABORATE, UM, STATION OUTSIDE OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE, WHERE HE WAS ABLE TO MONITOR AND LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW, UM, HOW LONG A WAIT THEY WOULD HAVE.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WOULD DRIVE OUR, OUR, OUR, UM, LINES.
PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THE LINE WAS LOW AND THEY SHOULD HURRY UP AND GET TO TOWN HALL DURING THE, DURING THE NINE DAYS OF EARLY VOTING, AND ON ELECTION DAY, WE HAD A AVERAGE OF A THOUSAND PEOPLE COME THROUGH TOWN HALL.
SO TO ACCOMMODATE THAT MANY PEOPLE, IT REQUIRED A VILLAGE.
GINA WAS THERE HELPING TO, UM, MONITOR PEOPLE IN LINE.
AND, AND, AND HIS AND HIS WIFE.
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WERE JUST EXCEPTIONAL IN HELPING TO MONITOR WHO MIGHT NEED ASSISTANCE, WHO MIGHT NEED TO BE PULLED FROM THE LINE AND PULLED UP FRONT.AND THEY WERE ALSO, UM, MAJOR, UH, DETERMINANTS IN OUR REACHING OUT TO THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS TO ASK PERMISSION TO, TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL LINE.
SO THROUGHOUT 10 DAYS OF FACILITATING OVER 10,000 PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF 10 HALL, IT TRULY TOOK A VILLAGE.
TIM LEWIS WAS THERE HELPING TO MONITOR, UM, WHAT WAS GOING ON ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO WE HAD D P W, THE CLERK'S OFFICE, THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, THE TOWN BOARD, ALL COMING TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THIS WAS A SEAMLESS OPERATION.
AND I JUST BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHEN THE CREDIT IS DUE.
AND I SHOULD JUST MENTION THAT THE ALBANY TIMES UNION, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.
I DO HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER REGINALD LAFAYETTE ON THE LINE, SO I AM TO PUT HIM ON SPEAKER.
SO, COMMISSIONER, HOLD ON A SECOND, SIR.
SO I'M JUST, I'M GONNA PUT MY PHONE AND JUST HOPEFULLY EVERYONE CAN HEAR HIM.
COMMISSIONER LAFAYETTE? YES, I APPRECIATE THE HONOR.
IT WAS, THIS WAS A TOUGH ELECTION.
NOTHING THAT HAS EVER BEEN DONE BEFORE, BECAUSE THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A PANDEMIC THAT DURING AN ELECTION WAS IN 1918.
AND I TRIED TO CALL A FEW PEOPLE UP WHO WAS AROUND IN 19 AND 18, AND NOBODY ANSWERED
BUT WE WERE WAITING TO GET WHATEVER LINK THAT WOULD PUT US ON THE ZOOM CALL, BOTH COMMISSIONER TI AND I AND I, I APPRECIATE, UH, THIS HONOR BY THE COUNCIL AND BY, UH, SUPERVISOR FINER.
AND, UM, WE DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO NOT DISENFRANCHISE ANYBODY AND TO MAKE THE ELECTION WHERE YOU COULD JUST BE ABLE TO WALK TO WHATEVER POLLING SITE.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A HARD PROCESS BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO DID NOT WANT US TO USE THEIR FACILITY AS POLLING SITES.
WE ARE GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE, AS WE HAVE DONE IN MY 21 YEARS AS COMMISSIONER.
WE WERE NEVER CITED FOR BASICALLY DISENFRANCHISING ANY.
UM, WE WILL BE CONTINUALLY TO OPERATE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS TO BRING TO THE VOTERS OF WESTCHESTER COUNTY AS WELL AS TO THE VOTERS OF GREENBURG, THE MOST FAIR PROCESS THAT WE CAN.
AND I THANK COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON FOR CALLING AND FOR CONNECTING THIS CALL.
IT, IT WOULD NOT HAVE WORKED AS SEAMLESSLY AS IT DID WITHOUT THE COLLABORATION AND THE SUPPORT OF YOUR STAFF FROM THE COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS, BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE CAME UP WITH A SUGGESTION, THEY SAID, LET'S GO WITH IT.
SO IT, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS AMAZING.
AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAVE TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK OUR TOWN SUPERVISOR, PAUL FINER.
PAUL CAME OUT THERE AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M LOOKING AT ALL THESE PEOPLE ONLINE.
WHY NOT BRING SOME ENTERTAINMENT? WHY NOT BRING SOME MUSICIANS? AND ON, UM, A COUPLE OF THE DAYS, PARTICULARLY THE SATURDAY OF, UH, EARLY VOTING, WE HAD THE MOST AMAZING LINEUP, UH, AN INTERGENERATIONAL LINEUP OF MUSICIANS.
THEY APPRECIATED, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE ENTERTAINED.
UM, HE ALSO INVITED FOOD VENDORS TO COME THERE.
THEY WERE THERE EVERY DAY DURING, THROUGHOUT OUR, UM, THROUGHOUT THE EARLY VOTING.
AND, AND, AND AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST UNPRECEDENTED.
IT WAS EXTRAORDINARY, AND IT WAS EXCEPTIONAL.
AND I JUST WANNA, HOW WE REACHED OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
AND THE ALBANY TIMES UNION, UH, THE MAJOR, UH, STATE,
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UH, GOVERNMENT, UH, PUBLICATION BASED IN ALBANY SAID, GREENBURG SET THE BAR FOR EARLY VOTING.UH, THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY TOWN OF GREENBURG, WHICH STRADDLES 2 87 ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE HUDSON RIVER, HAD FOOD TRUCKS, FLU SHOTS, AND SEPARATE FAST ALLIANCE FOR ELDERLY AND DISABLED VOTERS.
DURING EARLY VOTING, THE TOWN ALSO OFFERED A LIVE STREAM CAMERA FEED THAT ENABLED VOTERS TO CHECK THE LINES, USUALLY MORE THAN THREE HOURS BEFORE HEADING TO THAT EARLY POLLING SITE.
THE CAMERA FEED REMAINED ACTIVE ON ELECTION DAY, BUT THE LINES HAD VANISHED.
SO THEY EVEN GAVE, UM, UH, RECOGNITION TO THE TOWN.
SO I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY, UH, FOR THEIR INVOLVEMENT.
AND NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM, WELL BE, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE LEARNED EVERY DAY AS TO HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS.
THE VERY FIRST DAY, IT WAS CRAZY BECAUSE IT TURNED OUT THAT THERE WERE FOUR MORE THAN 400 PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP BEFORE THE POLLS OPENED, BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST DAY OF EARL EARLY VOTING.
AND THE LINES WERE EVERYWHERE YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE.
AND SO WE LEARNED, AND THEN THE NEXT DAY WE IMPROVED UPON THAT.
BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO IMPROVE JUST IN CASE THIS HAP THIS TYPE OF THING HAPPENS.
AGAIN, WE REALIZED THAT WE REALLY NEED A PA SYSTEM IN THE PARKING LOT, BECAUSE WE WERE GOING AROUND TELLING PEOPLE THAT IT'S OKAY.
YOU COULD USE THE, THE RESTROOMS. YOU JUST GO UP TO THE FRONT DOOR, USE THE RESTROOM, YOU CAN'T VOTE, BUT THEN COME BACK AND GET IN LINE.
AND DURING A PANDEMIC, PROBABLY THE SAFEST PLACE YOU COULD HAVE BEEN DURING EARLY VOTING DAYS WAS AT TOWN HALL.
BECAUSE WE MAINTAINED SOCIAL DISTANCING.
EVERYONE WORE THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR MASKS, THE PEOPLE IN THE LINE, EVEN THOUGH EVEN THE DAY WHERE THE LINE WAS APPROACHING FIVE HOURS, THAT WAS THAT FIRST DAY WHERE EVERYBODY SHOWED UP BEFORE THE POLL DOORS EVEN OPENED.
UM, PEOPLE JUST HAD A GREAT, GREAT PHILOSOPHY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO YOU VOTED FOR.
IT WAS THAT EVERYBODY WAS THERE TO EXPRESS THEIR VOTE, AND IT WAS, THERE WAS NO, YOU KNOW, CUTTING LINES OR ANY OF THAT KIND OF THING.
UH, BUT WE DID REALIZE THAT WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
WE WERE TRYING TO DO THEM ON THE FLY, BUT IT TURNS OUT WE DON'T HAVE ELECTRICAL POWER AT THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT.
WE'RE GONNA, WE DO, BUT IT'S NOT THE RIGHT VOLTAGE.
SO WE'RE GONNA FIX THAT SO THAT WE CAN DO BETTER ANNOUNCEMENTS.
BECAUSE EVEN GOING AROUND AND JUST TELLING THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF THE RESTROOMS MADE THEM, YOU KNOW, SO RELIEVED THAT YES, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE WAITING THERE FOR ALL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOSE THEIR PLACE.
AND SO WE WOULD KEEP DOING THAT, BUT WE'D HAVE TO DO IT IN GROUPS OF 10 OR 20 GOING ALONG THE LINE.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA LEARN AND, AND HAVE A CAMERA THAT'S IN THE BACK OF THE, UH, PARKING LOT AS WELL.
WE COULDN'T DO THAT 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE POWER, BUT THOUGH WE TRIED.
SO ALL OF THIS WAS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
AND FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER LAFAYETTE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK YOUR SPAM FOLDER, BECAUSE I DID.
HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT ON THE LINE'S.
WELL, ANYWAY, HE WAS SENT THE LINK AT SIX 15, AND IT MAY BE IN HIS SPAM FOLDER.
WE WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DID NOT MENTION AND GIVE THANKS AGNO AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO GREENBERG'S FINEST.
OUR POLICE OFFICERS WERE THERE EVERY DAY, HOURS BEFORE THE POLLS OPENED, AND THEY REMAINED IN PLACE UNTIL HOURS AFTER THE POLLS CLOSED, UNTIL EVERY VOTER LEFT.
AND THEY SENT A MESSAGE OF BOTH SECURITY AND SAFETY.
AND SO WE GREATLY APPRECIATE AND ACKNOWLEDGE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO, AGAIN, THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE, LEWIS, VICTORIA, JOLEN, TARA, THE CABLE DEPARTMENT, JANELLE, OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, OUR TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
YEAH, THAT WAS TRISTAN AND OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
AND, AND ONE MORE THING ABOUT MIKE BRODER.
MIKE BRODER WOULD COME IN BEFORE ANYBODY AND SPRAY, WHEN WE SAY WE, THEY, THEY, THEY SANITIZE THE ROOM.
YEAH, HE, HE DID A PROFESSIONAL, PROFESSIONAL SANITA, UH, SANITIZING OF THE ROOMS BEFORE THE BOATERS CAME IN.
AND THE, THEN HE WAS AT THE DOOR EACH FOR EVERYBODY COMING IN, SPRAYING THEIR HANDS WITH THEIR HAND SANITIZER.
AND THEN THEY WOULD COME IN AND MOVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THE TOWN HALL, AND THERE'D BE SOMEBODY ELSE, I THINK THEY CALLED THEM THE, UH, HOSPITALITY SOMETHING, UH, PERSON FROM THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS.
AND THEY WOULD SPRAY THEIR HANDS SO THAT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY PICKED UP YOUR BALLOT, YOU KNEW THAT THE BALLOT WAS VIRUS FREE.
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WAS JUST A VERY WELL DONE FOR THAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON VERY SHORT NOTICE.UM, I JUST WANNA, UM, RECOGNIZE, UM, WE HAVE, UM, A YOUNG MAN, A STUDENT, UM, AT, AT MOND, UM, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO HAS A VERY INTERESTING PROJECT RELATING TO, UH, DI A DIAPER PROJECT.
UM, AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, INVITE, UH, WESLEY NIHART, UH, WHO'S A JUNIOR AT EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL, UH, TO DISCUSS, UM, HIS, UM, HIS PROJECT WESLEY.
UM, MY NAME IS WESS NIHART AND I'M AN 11TH GRADER AT, UH, THE HACKLEY SCHOOL IN TARRYTOWN, NEW YORK.
UM, I AM LEADING A DIAPER DRIVE WITH MY FAMILY FOR THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DIAPER BANK.
UM, IT GOES UNTIL DECEMBER 23RD.
UM, I BECAME INTERESTED IN, UH, THE DIAPER DRIVE WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I COULD DO TO HELP THOSE IN NEED, UM, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOLIDAYS.
UM, IT SEEMED THERE WERE MANY FOOD AND TOY DRIVES, AND I WANTED TO THINK OF SOMETHING THAT YOUNG CHILDREN NEEDED, AND I THOUGHT OF THIS, UM, THERE ISN'T THAT MUCH SUPPORT FOR, UM, UH, FOR, UH, YOUNG CHILDREN, UM, AND DIAPERS.
SO, UM, A LOT OF FAMILIES IN NEED ARE FORCED TO EITHER FOREGO OTHER NEEDS, UM, OR TO REUSE DIAPERS.
UM, AND IF YOU WANT TO DONATE, UM, YOU CAN DROP DIAPERS OFF IN THE GREEN BIN OUTSIDE OUR FRONT STEPS AT EIGHT COTS HOLD WAY IN, UH, EDGEMONT.
UM, ANY SIZE IS FINE, BUT THERE'S A GREATER NEED FOR DIAPER SIZES, FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX PULL-UPS AND BABY WIPES.
AND WE'LL SPREAD THE WORD AND ENCOURAGE, UM, RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS TERRIFIC INITIATIVE THAT YOU'RE TAKING.
[ PO 3 - 12/09/2020 Resolution promoting Sergeant Dennis Basulto to Police Lieutenant and Police Officer Mark Maiden to Police Sergeant]
UM, WE HAVE, UM, UH, SOME POLICE, UH, PROMOTIONS, UH, SERGEANT DENNIS ULTO, POLICE, UH, LIEUTENANT AND MARK MAIDEN TO POLICE.UH, CHIEF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, UM, DISCUSS THE PROMOTIONS AND TO INTRODUCE US TO THEM? YES, YES.
SO, TONIGHT MARKS A, A MONUMENTAL NIGHT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE WE GET TO ACKNOWLEDGE TWO PROMOTIONS, BUT WE ALSO GET TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FIRST, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF A HISPANIC POLICE LIEUTENANT IN THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT IS, UH, SERGEANT DENNIS ULTO.
SO, UM, SERGEANT ULTO WAS RAISED IN THE UNINCORPORATED TOWN OF GREENBURG AND GRADUATED FROM FORDHAM PREP HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, DENNIS CONTINUED HIS EDUCATION AT FAIRFIELD UNIVERSITY AND WAS ULTIMATELY HIRED BY JP MORGAN CHASE.
TWO YEARS LATER IN 2003, DENNIS WAS HIRED AS A POLICE OFFICER BY THE TOWN.
AFTER GRADUATING FROM THE POLICE ACADEMY, DENNIS WAS ASSIGNED TO THE PATROL DIVISION.
DENNIS DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN A PATROL DIVISION AND EVENTUALLY WAS ASSIGNED TO THE COMMUNITY POLICING UNIT FROM 2007 TO 2014.
IN FEBRUARY OF 2014, DENNIS WAS PROMOTED TO THE RANK OF SERGEANT AND WAS ASSIGNED TO SUPERVISOR PATROL SQUAD ON OUR MIDNIGHT TO EIGHT SHIFT, DENNIS'S TALENTS WERE RECOGNIZED.
AND IN 2020, HE WAS ASSIGNED TO THE DETECTIVE DIVISION AS A SQUAD SUPERVISOR.
AND I'VE CHECKED THE DEPARTMENT ANNALS AND I'VE SPOKE TO PRIOR POLICE CHIEFS AND CONFIRMED THAT SERGEANT ULTO WILL IN FACT BE THE FIRST HISPANIC POLICE LIEUTENANT IN THE HISTORY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO, I HOPE DENNIS IS ON THIS CALL.
AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE DENNIS ON THE SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT, AND I'M CONFIDENT HE WILL INSPIRE MANY CHIEF CONGRATULATIONS.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE VOTED TO, UM, TO, FOR THEIR, BOTH THEIR PROMOTIONS, UH, BEFORE, IF THEY WANNA SAY SOMETHING SO THAT THEY ACTUALLY WILL BE IN THEIR NEW POSITIONS.
SO DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CHIEF ABOUT, UM, UH, THE OTHER PROMOTION AND THEN WE'LL DO, NO, I THINK, WHY DON'T WE VOTE? WHY DON'T WE VOTE ON THEM AND THEN THEY, HE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM AS IN THEIR NEW WELL, BUT HE IS ONLY SPOKEN ABOUT ONE SO FAR.
WE'LL CALL TO THE SECOND ONE AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THEM SPEAK.
I THOUGHT WE WOULD LET THEM, WE WOULD DO IT AND THEN THEY COULD SPEAK.
WELL, IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE ALL IN ONE RESOLUTION.
NO, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR FROM, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE CHIEF AND THEN WE'LL VOTE AND THEN THEY CAN, UH, GIVE THEIR ACCEPTANCE SPEECH.
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ALRIGHT.SO, OUR NEXT CANDIDATE TO FILL THE VACANCY THAT I AM RECOMMENDING FOR SERGEANT ULTO.
OUR NEXT CANDIDATE IS POLICE OFFICER MARK MAIDEN.
SO MARK WAS RAISED IN THE UNINCORPORATED TOWN AT GREENBERG IN THE EDGEMONT SECTION, AND GRADUATED FROM THE HARVEY.
MARK CONTINUED HIS EDUCATION AT DEA UNIVERSITY IN PITTSBURGH, WHERE HE OBTAINED HIS BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION.
AFTER WORKING SEVERAL YEARS IN A PRIVATE SECTOR, MARK DECIDED TO RETURN TO SCHOOL IN, IN 2012, EARNED HIS MASTER'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE FROM JOHN J COLLEGE.
ONE YEAR LATER IN 2013, MARK WAS SWORN IN AS A GREENBERG POLICE OFFICER.
AND AFTER GRADUATING FROM THE POLICE ACADEMY, MARK WAS ASSIGNED TO THE PATROL DIVISION WHERE HE HAS DILIGENTLY WORKED SINCE.
SO, I AM RESPECTFULLY RECOMMENDING POLICE OFFICER MARK MAIDEN FOR THE PROMOTION TO POLICE SERGEANT.
SO, I'D LIKE TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPOINT SERGEANT DENNIS POCITO TO POLICE LIEUTENANT AND POLICE OFFICER MARK MAIDEN TO POLICE SERGEANT.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THOSE RESOLUTIONS.
ANYONE? SECOND? SECOND IS P, WHICH IS PO THREE ON THE AGENDA.
NOW WE CAN HEAR THE ACCEPTANCE SPEECHES, RIGHT?
I THINK I, I THINK I SAW LIEUTENANT BTO ON HERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S TYPICAL THAT THEY KEEP THE SPEECHES UNDER 30 MINUTES, SO IT'S
LET'S SEE WHEN THEY HEARD THE WORD.
WHEN THEY HEARD THE WORD SWEET, THEY MAY HAVE, OH, GOODNESS,
UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE APPROVAL.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CHIEF OF POLICE, UH, FOR THE CONFIDENCE IN, IN PROMOTING ME.
UM, IT IS A INCREDIBLY HUMBLING TO BE THE FIRST HISPANIC LIEUTENANT IN THE HISTORY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUT I ALSO COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH, UH, THROUGHOUT MY, UH, 17 PLUS YEARS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I AM INCREDIBLY HUMBLED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND, UH, AND INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL.
AND, UH, I THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD AND, UH, EVERYBODY THAT'S HELPED ME ALONG THE WAY.
AND, AND, AND MARK IS HERE TOO.
MARK IS HERE, RIGHT? OH, THERE HE IS.
UM, I, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE, UM, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, TO A, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION.
UM, I'M HUMBLED JUST, JUST AS, UH, THE LIEUTENANT JUST SAID.
UM, AND I, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO, TO MAKING YOU ALL PROUD.
SO, UM, THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN AND I, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
I WISH BOTH OF YOU GOOD LUCK AND STAY SAFE.
I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF, UH, IT WOULD BE OKAY, JUST, UH, WE'LL JUST TAKE
[ To consider a Local Law amending Chapter 380, “Noise,” of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh listing the noise created due to an unlawful speed contest as an enumerated restricted offense (Held over from Town Board Meeting of 11/24/2020)]
[ To consider Local Law(s) amending Chapter 460 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh entitled “Vehicles and Traffic” to create a new subsection authorizing the forfeiture of vehicles operated by persons while engaged in unlawful speed contests or races (Held over from Town Board Meeting of 11/24/2020)]
A FEW MINUTES, UM, TAKE OUT OF ORDER.UM, THE, UM, UH, THE ISSUE OF, UM, UH, THE SPEEDING ON, UM, ON TOWN STREETS.
WE HAVE JAMES NOLAN, YOU KNOW, HERE, WHO'S BROTHER, UM, WAS THE VICTIM OF A TRAGIC, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENT.
UM, AND BEFORE WE VOTE, YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING IF JAMES WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UH, SOME, SOME WORDS AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE SINCE WE ALWAYS LET PEOPLE SPEAK ABOUT, UM, ABOUT VOTES BEFORE THEY OCCUR.
SO JAMES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? OF COURSE.
UH, WELL THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING ME.
UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH EVERYBODY.
UH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR REALLY TRYING TO ADAPT THIS LAW INTO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, IT'LL BE A HUGE TRIBUTE TO MY BROTHER AND TO ANYBODY THAT'S EVER BEEN HURT OR PUT AT RISK OR LOSS BECAUSE OF THESE DANGEROUS ACTS.
UM, THEY'RE NOT ONLY UNLAWFUL, BUT THEY CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT WE NO LONGER NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SINCE IT WAS ORIGINALLY PASSED IN YONKERS, UH, WHITE PLAINS, GREENBERG TUCKAHOE HAS RECENTLY PASSED IT, UH, RESOLUTION.
AND ALSO I AM ON, ON THE NEW D INCOMING DA MIMI ROKER, UH, TRANSITION TEAM, WHERE I ALSO BROUGHT UP THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING A MULTI-JURISDICTION TASK FORCE SO IT COULD BE SHUT DOWN FROM THE INSIDE.
AND, UH, IT HAS GOOD, UH, POSITIVE FEEDBACK, TRACTION.
SO I'M GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT JUST BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE, ARE ALWAYS MOVING, THEY'RE ALWAYS TRAVELING AT DIFFERENT POINTS TO LOOK FOR DIFFERENT AREAS TO DO IT.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE NO LONGER WANT ANYBODY AT RISK.
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BUT TO BE ON HERE TODAY, YOU KNOW, AND TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VOTE, IT REALLY DOES MEAN A LOT TO ME.AND I CAN'T HELP BUT SAY THANK YOU TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON HERE THAT HAS HELPED MAKE IT POSSIBLE.
AND, UM, I JUST HOPE THAT IT PASSED AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING ANYTHING POSSIBLE WITH THIS OR OUTSIDE TO MAKE GREENBERG SAFER AND A BETTER COMMUNITY FOR EVERYBODY.
WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE YOU AS DEDICATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND YOU REALLY ARE INSPIRING.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY TAKE THIS ISSUE, UH, VERY SERIOUSLY AND TO TAKE SOME ACTION.
CHIEF, WOULD YOU JUST LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE WORDS ABOUT THE PROPOSAL? YES.
I THINK THE PROPOSED LAW IS A GOOD LAW.
I THINK THAT IT GIVES US CONTINUITY.
WE KNOW THAT OUR SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS, BOTH IN YONKERS AND WHITE PLAINS HAVE IT ONE CORRIDOR THAT WE'VE HAD OF CONCERN THAT WE ALL SHARE ESSENTIAL AVENUE.
WE ARE WILLING TO DO EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
AND, UH, THIS IS GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, AUTHORITY.
SO I THANK MR. NOLAN AND I THANK THE TOWN BOARD FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS.
ANYBODY ELSE, UH, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? NO.
[ TB 1 - 12/09/2020 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh amending the Code of the Town of Greenburgh Chapter 380, entitled “Noise,” to create a new Subsection authorizing a penalty for noise violations resulting from vehicles operated by persons while engaged in unlawful speed contests or races (Held over from Town Board Meeting of 11/24/2020)]
I'D LIKE TO, UH, MOVE, UH, UH, THOSE ITEMS, UM, UH, APPROVING, UM, A LOCAL LAW AMENDING, UH, CHAPTER THREE 80 NOISE OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG LIFTING THE NOISE CREATED DUE TO AN UNLAWFUL SPEECH CONTEST AS AN ENUMERATED RESTRICTED OFFENSE.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT AS AMENDED.
UH, TO CONSIDER LOCAL LAWS AMENDING
[ TB 2 - 12/09/2020 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh amending the Code of the Town of Greenburgh Subsection 460-1 by adding a new definition entitled “Unlawful Speed Contest” and creating a new Article XIII, entitled “Forfeiture of Vehicles in Connection with Criminal Acts,” authorizing the forfeiture of vehicles operated by persons while engaged in unlawful speed contests or races (Held over from Town Board Meeting of 11/24/2020)]
CHAPTER FOUR 60 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBERG ENTITLED VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC TO CREATE A NEW SUBSECTION AUTHORIZING THE FORFEITURE OF VEHICLES OPERATED BY PERSONS WHILE ENGAGED IN UNLAWFUL SPEED CONTESTS OR RACE RACES AS AMENDED.WE COULD LEAVE THE OTHER ONE TILL LATER.
SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU JAMES AGAIN FOR, UH, YOUR EFFORTS.
UH, NEXT ON THE AGENDA, UH, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING
[ To consider the 2021 Preliminary Budget (The budget is available on the town's Web site.)]
ON, UM, THE 2021, UM, YOU KNOW, BUDGET.UH, THERE'S A SLIP SHEET, UM, WITH, UM, SOME, UH, SOME CHANGES, UM, THE BUDGET, UM, AS UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, THE TOWN BOARD HAS ADDED, UM, INTO THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET DOCUMENTS, ITEMS THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE, UM, SUGGESTED.
WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY DECISIONS, BUT I THINK ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE DETERMINED TO KEEP THE TAX RATE, UM, YOU KNOW, FLAT OR ACTUALLY, UH, AS IT IS, UM, WITH A SLIGHT TAX UH, REDUCTION.
SO YOU WANNA OPEN THE HEARING, PAUL? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE HEARING.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE BUDGET? OKAY, LOOKS LIKE, UH, MR. BOIN WANTS TO SPEAK.
YOU'RE GOING TO DISCUSS A BUDGET WHERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE TOWN HAVE MADE QUITE, QUITE A FEW SACRIFICES.
THERE ARE LESS PEOPLE WORKING, THEY'RE WORKING HARDER.
AND YET THE ONE ISSUE THAT COSTS MY FAMILY AS MUCH MONEY AS THE ENTIRE TOWN BUDGET IS THE FIRE PROTECTION.
WE HAVE ONE POLICE CHIEF, WE HAVE FOUR, FIVE FIRE CHIEFS, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEFS, TRAINING OFFICERS, REPAIR.
AND YET YOU TELL ME, WELL THIS IS THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS.
WE BUILT A NEW FIREHOUSE ON WEST DALE AVENUE, NEVER CLOSED THE ONE ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
YOU'RE GOING UNDER A SYSTEM THAT WAS DESIGNED HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WERE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
THERE ARE NO MORE FIRE DEPARTMENTS NOW WE'RE LIVING UNDER RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE UNHEARD OF A YEAR AGO.
BASICALLY, WE'RE TOLD TO STAY AT HOME AND IF WE WALK OUT, WEAR A MASK, WHICH IS A REASONABLE THING TO DO.
THIS IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
AND FINANCIALLY I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR BUSINESSES, WE'RE GIVING OUT HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE SO THEY DON'T STARVE.
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AND YOU TELL ME, WELL WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SYSTEM.THIS IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
THEY'VE GIVEN UP VIRTUALLY NOTHING.
THEY SEND FIRE TRUCKS TO ACME CENTER TO GET FOOD FOR THE FIREHOUSE KITCHEN COULD DO IT IN A SMALL VEHICLE, BUT THEY SEND THE TRUCK SO THEY HAVE MILES ON IT.
THEY SAID DO I GET TO SPEAK OR DO YOU GET TO INTERRUPT ME? I KNOW THIS IS NOT A VERY POPULAR DISCUSSION.
THIS IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
I'M ONE OF THOSE VULNERABLE PEOPLE I NOW HAVE HANDICAP PLATES ON.
I GOT THE PERMISSION FROM THE TOWN TO PARK MY CAR EXCEPT WHEN IT SNOWS 'CAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF THE CAR ON MY VERY STEEP DRIVEWAY.
AND I HAVE TO LET MY WIFE OUT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL FOR THE SAME REASON.
AND YOU TELL ME WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
I USED TO BE ABLE TO GO DOWN TO LEY DINER AND EAT SANDWICH THERE.
RESTRICTED TO MY HOUSE ALMOST.
AND YOU TELL ME YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE FIRE DISTRICTS.
I PAID THE SAME AMOUNT FOR FIRE PROTECTION AS I PAY FOR EVERYTHING ELSE THE TOWN DOES.
AND YOU TELL ME, WELL WE CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES.
WE USED TO HAVE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND NOT ONLY AGENDA TONIGHT, YOU'RE GONNA PAY ANOTHER FIRE DISTRICT TO TAKE THE PLACE 'CAUSE WE CAN'T GET THERE.
WE GOT ONE FIRE, ONE POLICE CHIEF AND WHAT, FIVE OR SIX FIRE CHIEFS.
NOW THIS IS MY PERSONAL OBSERVATION.
I SAT IN A MEETING A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN A FIRE COMMISSIONER APPOINTED A MEMBER OF HER FAMILY TO BE ASSISTANT CHIEF.
THIS ISN'T SECONDHAND, IT'S FIRSTHAND.
HOW COME WE DON'T HAVE ANY UH, I'LL LEAVE THAT A GO.
WHY WASN'T THE FIREHOUSE CLOSED ON CENTRAL AVENUE? WHY IS IT STILL MAINTAINED? WHY DO WE PAY FOR ANYBODY TO BE THERE? IF YOU AS A BOARD CANNOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS EMERGENCY FIRE SITUATION TO SAVE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN MY TAX MONEY AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S TAX MONEY BY COMBINING FIRE DISTRICTS, WE BETTER GET A NEW BOARD NEXT YEAR.
IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT.
YOU WANT US TO GIVE UP TOWN SERVICES AND YOU PERMIT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO HAVE MULTIPLE CHIEFS AND WE HAVE TO PAY ANOTHER FIRE DISTRICT 'CAUSE WE CAN'T GET THERE.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING TONIGHT IS GONNA SAY, AH, IT'S THAT CRAZY MURRAY BOWEN AGAIN.
THERE'S ONLY ONE FIVE MINUTES AND I'M SORRY TO I INTERRUPT, BUT WE GOT A LOT OF SPEAKERS TONIGHT.
THANK YOU TIM, IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS FOLLOWING THE RULES.
ANYBODY ELSE THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN.
[ To consider an Amended Site Plan and Special Permit Application by Eagle Energy Storage, LLC, for property located at 200 Knollwood Road Extension (P.O. Elmsford, NY) (Continued from Town Board Meeting of 11/24/2020)]
WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.I'D LIKE TO, UH, LEMME JUST PULL THE AGENDA.
TO CONSIDER AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS BY EAGLE STORAGE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 200 NORWOOD ROAD EXTENSION CONTINUED FROM THE TOWN BOARD MEETING OF 1124.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN UP THE HEARING.
EVENING SUPERVISOR, FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE RECORD.
GARRETT DUANE, COMMISSIONER OF
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THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS A CONTINUATION OF THE HEARING FROM TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 24TH, 2020 AND IS RELATED TO A SPECIAL PERMIT AND AMENDED SITE PLAN.
LEGAL ENERGY STORAGE L L C FOR A PROJECT LOCATED PARTIALLY HUNDRED NORWOOD ROAD EXTENSION, NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB PO ELMSFORD, NEW YORK.
THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A 20 MEGAWATT BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM ON A PORTION OF THE NOEL WOOD GOLF COURSE PROPERTY WITH ADDITIONAL APPROVALS NECESSARY IN THE VILLAGE OF
I'M GONNA MUTE SOMEONE THERE GETTING SOME FEEDBACK.
A SITE VISIT WAS SCHEDULED FOR THIS PAST SATURDAY, DECEMBER 5TH, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO BE CANCELED DUE TO FORECAST RAIN AND WINDS.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JAMES ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT FOR ATTENDING.
REGARDLESS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SOME RESIDENTS SPRAYED THE RAIN AND WERE ABLE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE PROPOSAL FOR MR. ROBINSON, THE PLANNING BOARD AT ITS REGULAR WORK SESSION OF DECEMBER 2ND MEETING NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATION WITH RESPECT TO THE AMENDED SITE PLAN.
THAT RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 20 RECOMMENDED MITIGATIONS AND GIVE SOME SAMPLES HERE IN AREAS OF FIRE POLICE SAFETY AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, PROVIDE ANNUAL TRAINING FOR THE ELMSFORD FIRE DISTRICT AND OTHER MUTUAL AID AND EMERGENCY RESPONDERS RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FILING OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND EVACUATION PLAN AND A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE FIRE HYDRANT WITH RESPECT TO CERTIFICATION COMPLIANCE WITH NYSERDA BATTERY EN ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM MODEL LAW, THE NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE COMPLIANCE WITH THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION STANDARD FOR ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS WITH RESPECT TO LANDSCAPING AND WETLANDS.
RECOMMENDATION REGARDING PERIMETER SCREENING WITH RESPECT TO BONDING AND DECOMMISSIONING PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDS A DECOMMISSIONING BOND OR LETTER OF CREDIT COVERING THE REMOVAL OF EQUIPMENT, DISPOSAL OF ANY HAZARDOUS MATERIALS AND SITE RESTORATION AND RECOMMENDS INSURANCE.
THE VARIOUS MITIGATIONS WERE LARGELY BASED ON CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL INPUT.
THE C A C SENT A REPORT TO THE TOWN BOARD, WHICH IS DATED DECEMBER 4TH, 2020, WHICH IS A PART OF THIS RECORD.
THE PLANNING BOARD WAS SENT, THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION WAS SENT TO THE APPLICANT WHO INDICATED THAT MOST OF THE CONDITIONS ARE REASONABLE AND CAN BE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THE PLANNING BOARD.
MEMO DATED DECEMBER 7TH, 2020.
PLANNING BOARD ALSO OUTLINES THAT IT BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED USE, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO A SPECIAL PERMIT PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 85 DASH 10 A FOUR B, IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THAT SECTION AND WOULD REQUIRE USE VARIANCE TO BE PERMITTED.
THE PLANNING BOARD ASKED THAT THE TOWN BOARD REFER THE MATTER TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR INTERPRETATION OR FURTHER REVIEW THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S NOVEMBER 12TH, 2020 MEMO, WHICH AFFIRMS THAT THE CODE SECTION IS APPLICABLE.
THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S NOVEMBER 12TH MEMO AFFIRMS THE APPLICABILITY OF THE PROPOSED USE IN THE SUBJECT ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE R 31 FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT WITH DISCRETION LYING WITH THE TOWN BOARD TO APPROVE OR DENY THE APPLICATION.
ASIDE FROM THE USE QUESTION, THE PLANNING BOARD FURTHER RECOMMENDED THAT NEW SPECIAL PERMIT LEGISLATION BE STUDIED AND ENACTED FOR BATTERY STORAGE USES AS WELL AS FOR OTHER USES NOT ANTICIPATED BY THE CURRENT CODE SECTION SUCH AS SOLAR WIND FARMS AND SOLAR FARMS. AND I'M NOW GONNA CONCLUDE WITH READING THE PLANNING BOARD FINDINGS.
THERE'S LIMITED EXPERIENCE WITH THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES ACROSS THE NATION, AND IN FACT, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST SUCH FACILITY OF THIS SCALE IN THE NORTHEAST.
AS SUCH, IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE THE POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THIS TYPE OF FACILITY.
THIS IS A PARTICULAR CONCERN GIVEN THE PROPOSAL IS TO PLACE THIS FACILITY IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
WHILE CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITHIN 700 FEET OF THE PROPOSAL, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL FOR THAT TO CHANGE OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.
THERE IS LITTLE ALSO LITTLE KNOWN OF WHAT THE IMPACT OF A FIRE AT THIS PROPOSED FACILITY COULD CAUSE ON AIR QUALITY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
WE DO KNOW FROM THE TESLA DOCUMENTATION THAT FUMES WOULD BE TOXIC IF THERE WAS A FIRE.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE PREFERRED METHOD OF FIGHTING THIS TYPE OF FIRE IS TO CONTAIN IT AND LET IT BURN OUT, WHICH COULD TAKE 24 HOURS OR MORE.
THIS MAKES IT EVEN HARDER TO DETERMINE THE RISK TO AIR QUALITY.
CONVERSELY, NONE OF THE CURRENTLY BUILT FACILITIES HAVE BEEN OPERATING FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE WHAT POSSIBILITY OF A FIRE OR HOW EXTENSIVE IT MIGHT BE.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IT'S VERY SAFE, BUT WE SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE OR THE EXPERTISE TO DETERMINE THAT.
THE PLANNING BOARD ISSUES A NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATION AND LEAVES IT TO THE TOWN BOARD TO DETERMINE IF THERE IS SUFFICIENT COMFORT
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WITH THE MITIGATION CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED ABOVE.TO OVERCOME THE UNCERTAINTIES OUTLINED IN THIS RECOMMENDATION TO LOCATE A FACILITY LIKE THIS IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE OR ANY AREA WHERE THERE IS A DENSE GATHERING OF PEOPLE, THE TOWN BOARD COULD ALSO HIRE AN OUTSIDE EXPERT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INSIGHT PRIOR TO MAKING A FINAL DETERMINATION.
SO THAT WAS VERBATIM FINDINGS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO INVITE MR. LENO SHERETTA ATTORNEY ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT ANY UPDATES AND I ALSO RECOMMEND THAT MR. RETTA AND HIS TEAM PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THEIR PROPOSAL PRIOR.
THERE ARE SEVERAL MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING FOLLOWING ANY QUESTIONS THE TOWN BOARD MAY HAVE.
AND MR. RETTA, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION WHEN GARRETT SAYS SEVERAL, I WOULD SAY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 15 TO 20, EACH OF WHOM WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FOR FIVE MINUTES.
AND I'M GONNA LIMIT ALL OF THEM TO THAT FIVE MINUTES SO EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP BEFORE, BUT TO STILL BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN HEAR FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DUANE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SUPERVISOR FINER.
MY NAME IS LENO SHERETTA, PARTNER WITH THE LAW FIRM BLAKELY PLATT AND SCHMIDT ON BEHALF OF EAGLE ENERGY.
UH, AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ON THIS EVENING AND WE WILL BE BRIEF IN IN TERMS OF OUR PRESENTATION.
UH, WE DID PRESENT TO THE BOARD AT THE LAST MEETING AND, UM, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, UM, WHAT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING THIS EVENING WITH STRATA AND EAGLE STORAGE IS PROPOSING IS THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITY THAT WILL BE INSTALLED AT NOBLE COUNTRY CLUB AND IT WILL BE INSTALLED.
WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE IT INSTALLED AT THE UNUSED PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT THAT IS IN THE NOBLE COUNTRY CLUB, UH, SITE.
NOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM.
THIS IS A BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEM THAT IT STORES ENOUGH RENEWABLE ENERGY, I E WIND AND SOLAR FROM UPSTATE NEW YORK INTO THESE BATTERIES THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO POWER 5,000 HOMES, WHICH IN TIMES OF NEED THIS BATTERY SYSTEM WOULD, WOULD COME ON, ON, ON ONLINE.
AND IN ESSENCE, WHAT THIS STORAGE SYSTEM IS DOING, IT'S INCREASING GRID EFFICIENCY, RATHER RELIABILITY AND REDUCES THE NEED FOR WHAT WE CALL TRADITIONAL CARBON EMITTING ENERGY.
THE PROJECT ITSELF IS ESTIMATED TO GENERATE BETWEEN 20 AND 30 JOBS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
THE PROJECT WILL ALSO SPEND AN ESTIMATED 2.5 MILLION IN LOCAL LABOR AND APPROXIMATELY 2.5 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.
NOW WE BELIEVE THIS PROJECT IS CRITICAL TO FILL A VOID THAT'S NEEDED, PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA OF THE STATE WESTCHESTER, TO BASICALLY SUPPLEMENT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITHIN INDIAN POINT.
INDIAN POINT WILL BE SHUTTING DOWN.
SO WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE ARE ABLE TO ALLOW RENEWABLE ENERGY THAT'S BEING GENERATED UP IN UPSTATE NEW YORK TO BE UTILIZED IN THIS COUNTY.
AND THE PROJECT WILL ALSO PROVIDE RESILIENCY TO THE ELECTRIC GRID, HELPING TO LIMIT SERVICES DISRUPTIONS.
NOW WE HAVE OUR TEAM THIS EVENING.
JUST A BRIEF, UM, INTRODUCTION.
WE HAVE JOHN ROMEO FROM INSIGHT ENGINEERING.
WE HAVE GEORGE POWELL FROM ENERGY STORAGE RESPONSE GROUP FROM EAGLE, WE HAVE JAMES ROBINSON AND FROM FARINO AND ASSOCIATES AND WE HAVE JERRY POST.
I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER DUQUE MENTIONED ABOUT THE DECEMBER 7TH PLANNING BOARD MEMO.
WE DO AGREE WITH MANY OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD PUT IN THAT IN THAT MEMO, UH, WE DID SPEND ABOUT THREE MEETINGS WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, ALSO MEETING WITH C A C.
SO WE DID SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN TERMS OF DISCUSSING THIS PROJECT AND THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT.
AND I JUST WANNA SPEND A REAL QUICK MINUTE HERE ON, ON SOME OF THE, THE, THE BENEFITS HERE AND WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH AND DISCUSSED AT, AT THESE MEETINGS.
IN TERMS OF SAFETY, THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE NO MISSIONS OF ANY KIND.
NO RADIO, NO ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES.
IT, IT'S SAFE BY DESIGN, MEANING THIS IS AN UNMANNED FACILITY.
IT WILL BE MONITORED 24 7 BY THE APPLICANT.
WE ALSO HAVE THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT, ELMSFORD THEIR FIRE CHIEF BACK ON NOVEMBER 18TH SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT.
WE, WE HAD A SITE VISIT WITH TOWN AND VILLAGE OFFICIALS OUT THERE AND THEY WERE, UM, SATISFIED WITH THIS PROJECT AND WE DO, WE DID GET A LETTER AGAIN FROM THE ELFORD FIRE DEPARTMENT BACK ON NOVEMBER 18TH.
WITH RESPECT TO THE SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
THE SAME THING WITH RESPECT TO SAFETY TESTING HAS SHOWN NET FIRE.
I KNOW WE MENTIONED FIRE CANNOT SPREAD IN THESE BATTERY PACKS AND I KNOW JOHN AND JAMES WILL SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE LATER.
IN TERMS OF WETLANDS, ENVIRONMENTAL, THERE ARE NO IMPACTS TO THE WETLANDS HERE.
WE HAVE REDUCED BUFFER IMPACTS IN TERMS OF NOISE.
WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT THAT THERE'LL
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BE NO NOISE OR IMPACTS TO NEARBY RESIDENTS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE CLOSEST RESIDENT IS 750 FEET AWAY.AND GIVEN THE TOPO HERE, AND I KNOW AT THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT SITTING IN A BOWL IN THE COUNTRY CLUB.
SO IT, IT SITS BELOW AND IT'S ADEQUATELY SCREENED WITH THE CLUB STEEP SLOPES.
SO IN TERMS OF NOISE, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO HAVING NO NOISE IMPACTS WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT.
IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING, THERE'S NO VISIBILITY TO THIS PROJECT.
JUST SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS OUTSIDE THE GOLF COURSE, NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT UNLESS YOU ARE ON THE KNOLLWOOD COUNTRY CLUB SITE.
AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING 46 VEGETATIVE PLANTINGS ON THE SITE.
WE TALKED ABOUT SECURITY, THERE'S NO SECURITY CONCERN.
THERE'S NO TRAFFIC IMPACTS WITH THIS PROJECT.
OKAY? THIS IS AN UNMANNED FACILITY.
THE ONLY MINIMAL IMPACTS THAT THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE IS DURING CONSTRUCTION.
AND I WILL END BRIEFLY BY SAYING WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I'M GLAD COMMISSIONER MCCANN, YOU MENTIONED THE SITE VISIT.
WE DID HAVE A, I THINK ABOUT 20 RESIDENTS SHOW UP, UH, IN THE POURING RAIN.
SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO DID BRAVE THE WEATHER TO COME OUT.
WE ALSO MET WITH TOWN AND VILLAGE OFFICIALS AT THE SITE AND WE'VE OFFERED TO MEET WITH SEVERAL LOCAL CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I JUST WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO, TO JOHN ROMEO BRIEFLY.
AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HERE JUST TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW SO EVERYONE HAS THE BENEFIT OF WHAT THIS PROJECT ENTAILS.
SO JOHN, IF YOU COULD JUST BRIEFLY, UM, GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THIS PROJECT, UM, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS JOHN ROMEO WITH INSIGHT NORTHEAST.
I AM THE LEAD PROJECT ENGINEER ON FOR THIS PROJECT.
FIRST SLIDE WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS THE PROJECT LOCATION.
OUR LOCATION IS SITUATED ON THE NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
IT IS 750 FEET APPROXIMATELY TO THE NEAREST RESIDENCE, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE TOWARDS THIS DIRECTION.
AND THE NEAREST RESIDENCE BESIDES THIS ONE IS 1100 FEET AWAY.
WE ARE DOWN SLOPE FROM NORWOOD ROAD ABOUT 30 TO 40 FEET DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU MEASURE IT FROM THE SITE.
AND WE ARE SCREENED ON THREE SIDES BY TREES, THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF AND ON THE OTHER SIDE BY THE GOLF COURSE BUILDINGS.
THIS SITE IS UNIQUELY SITUATED IN THE TOWN DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT'S NATURALLY SCREENED AND BUFFERED ON ALL SIDES.
NOW THE PROJECT ITSELF INCLUDES OUR MAIN PROJECT SITE, WHICH WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND A CONNECTION ROUTE, THE INTERCONNECTION ROUTE TO THE CONED SUBSTATION, WHICH IS IN THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD.
WITH THAT PROJECT, WE HAVE TWO MAIN ROUTING OPTIONS.
ONE IS A BELOW GROUND OPTION AS YOU CAN SEE IN ORANGE, AND ONE IS A PARTIAL ABOVE GROUND OPTION AS YOU CAN SEE IN BLUE.
NOW THE ROUTE FOR THESE OPTIONS WAS TAKEN THROUGH SURVEYING EFFORTS AND WE HAVE PROPOSED AN ABOVE-GROUND ROUTING OPTION TO TRY TO MINIMIZE DISTURBANCE TO THE PROJECT SITE AND TO THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF.
THIS ABOVEGROUND ROUTING OPTION WOULD DO VERY MINOR TRIMMING OF TREE BRANCHES.
WE'D BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE ELMSFORD UM, GOLF COURSE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT ALONG THE, THE FENCE LINE.
WE'D BE BELOW THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE LINE AND OUT OF THE WAY OF ANY TREES SO NO BRANCHES CAN LIKELY FALL ON IT.
FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE ROOT, WE'D BE TRYING TO EITHER PIGGYBACK ON TOP OF EXISTING POLES OR SUPPLEMENTING THE EXISTING POLES ALONG THE MAJORITY OF THE REMAINDER OF THE ROOT.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS TO TRY TO MINIMIZE ANY IMPACTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO THE, THE GROUND DISTURBANCE.
IN TOTAL, OUR TOTAL LAND DISTURBANCE IS LESS THAN ONE ACRE.
UH, AND OUR PROJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY ONE HALF ACRE.
THIS IS OUR MAIN PROJECT SITE HERE.
ONE THING THAT I'M GONNA NOTICE IS, AGAIN, THE TOPOGRAPHY, AS YOU CAN SEE, TOPOGRAPHY, SLOPES STEEPLY DOWN FROM NORWOOD ROAD AND WE ARE APPROXIMATELY 30 FEET LOWER IN THIS ELEVATION AND ACTUALLY 50 FEET LOWER FROM THIS, THIS CORNER.
UM, YOU CANNOT SEE THIS PROJECT SITE FROM NORWOOD ROAD DUE TO THE THICKNESS OF THE VEGETATION.
WE ARE PLANNING ON TAKING DOWN SOME TREES, BUT WE'LL BE SUPPLEMENTING THEM WITH ADDITIONAL TREES SPECIFICALLY IN THE WETLAND BUFFER AREA AND BETWEEN THE NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB AND THE PROJECT ITSELF, THIS IS A MIX OF EVERGREEN AND RED MAPLE AND AMERICAN TULIPS, ALL OF WHICH ARE NATIVE PLANTINGS.
AND WE HAVE ARBOR PLANTED BETWEEN THE NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB AND THE PROJECT SIDE ITSELF.
WE ARE LIMITED ON HEIGHT IN THIS AREA DUE TO OVER EXISTING OVERHEAD POWER LINES.
SO WE HAVE SELECTED A TREE THAT WILL COMPLETELY BLOCK THE VISIBILITY OF THIS PROJECT WHILE NOT CAUSING PROBLEMS WITH THE POWER LINE.
THIS GRAY HATCHED AREA REPRESENTS THE EXISTING WETLAND IMPACT BUFFER.
THIS IS THE WETLAND BUFFER LINE THAT IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S SOME DEBRIS ON THE PROJECT SITE THAT WE'D BE REMOVING AND MITIGATING AND CLEANING UP AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING THE WETLAND BUFFER AS FAR AS OF THIS PROJECT, INCLUDING PLANTING ADDITIONAL TREES IN HERE.
THERE ARE NO SHORT-TERM OR LONG-TERM IMPACTS TO THIS WETLAND AREA.
WE HAVE SOME VEGETATED S SWALES COMPLETE WITH CHECK DAMS TO ROUTE STORMWATER AROUND THE PROJECT
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SITE AND TO PROVIDE SOME PRE-TREATMENT FROM EXISTING ON-GRADE WATER THAT WOULD NATURALLY FLOAT TO THE WHITE LAND AREA ANYWAY AND PROVIDE IT A SAFE DIRECTION AROUND OUR PROJECT SITE.SO THERE ARE NO FLOODING ISSUES ON OUR PROJECT SITE ITSELF.
WE HAVE A SECURE ACCESS GATE AROUND THE FACILITY, UH, PROVIDED WITH BARBED WIRE AND A SECURITY FENCE.
SO PEOPLE CANNOT ACCESS SITE FOR ANY VANDALISM.
THERE IS A SMALL RETAINING WALL ALONG THIS PORTION OF THE SITE TO TRY TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO THE SLOPE AND TO CERTAINLY MINIMIZE OUR DISTURBANCE TO THE EXISTING TREES.
SO ALONG THIS SITE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LENA HAD MENTIONED WAS NOISE.
UM, WE ARE IN A BOWL, UH, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT 30 TO 50 FOOT ELEVATION CHANGE ALONG HERE.
WE HAVE TREES ON ALL SIDES AND ADDITIONAL AIDES AND A SCREENED FENCE.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN ANY NOISE THAT THE SYSTEM WOULD GENERATE.
WE'VE COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT THERE'S NO IMPACT TO NOISE TO THE NEAREST RESIDENTS SPECIFICALLY, THAT'S NO GREATER THAN 60 DECALS TO THE NEAREST RESIDENTS.
AND DUE TO OUR ONSITE TESTING THAT WE PROVIDED, AS WELL AS THIS NOISE MEMO THAT WE PROVIDED TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THE PLANNING BOARD, WE'RE SHOWING MATHEMATICALLY THAT WE, WE DON'T FORESEE ANY IMPACT TO NOISE AS PART OF THE SITE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE ABLE TO, TO VENTURE TO THE RAIN, OR FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN TO THE SITE ITSELF, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF AMBIENT NOISE FROM TRAFFIC FROM NORWOOD ROAD.
IT'S ACTUALLY EASIER FOR NOISE TO TRAVEL FROM NORWOOD ROAD DOWN THAN IT IS FOR NOISE TO TRAVEL FROM THIS PROJECT SITE UP.
AND THAT'S JUST DUE TO PHYSICS AND THE WAY SOUND WAVES WORK.
THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE PROJECT SITE.
AS YOU'LL NOTICE, WE HAVE VEGETATED AREAS SURROUNDING IT, AND WE WILL HAVE THE AES AND PLANTINGS ALONG THE FRONT, ALONG WITH A, UH, SLOTTED FENCE.
THESE ARE THE OVERHEAD LINES ABOVE.
LASTLY, I WILL END WITH JUST A PICTURE OF WHAT THE FACILITY WILL ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE, MORE A CABINET BASED SYSTEM.
UM, AND AS WE NOTED, IT'S, IT'S VERY SAFE.
WE HAVE DEEP DEFLATION VENTING UP A TOP.
EVERYTHING IS COMPARTMENTALIZED INSIDE.
WE HAVE 24 7 MONITORING AND INDIVIDUAL SHUTOFFS IN HERE.
AND THE BATTERY CABINETS THEMSELVES ARE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FEET TALL BY 23 FEET LONG, BY ABOUT FIVE, SIX FEET WIDE.
EACH ONE OF THESE CABINETS IS DESIGNED TO BE UNABLE TO BE ENTERED BY HUMAN BEINGS.
SO ALL THE MAINTENANCE IS DONE BY OPENING A SINGLE DOOR, WHICH AGAIN, EVERYTHING IS ISOLATED IN BETWEEN.
ALL THE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE DONE OUTSIDE THE, THE FACILITY.
AND IF THERE WAS EVER ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT, EACH ONE IS DESIGNED TO BE COMPLETELY ISOLATED FROM EVERY OTHER UNIT.
SO THERE IS VERY, VERY, VERY LITTLE CHANCE, ALMOST NO CHANCE OF THIS, ANY FIRE SPREADING BETWEEN ANY, UH, OF THESE FACILITIES AS WE'VE TALKED.
AND THAT WILL BE FURTHER EXPANDED DURING THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, ONE ITEM THAT CAME UP DURING THE PLANNING BOARD THAT I'D LIKE TO JUST TOUCH ON, UH, AS WELL AS THE C A C, WAS THE FACT THAT THESE ITEMS, UH, THESE BATTERIES, UM, HAVE A COOLING LIQUID IN THEM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME LIQUID THAT'S INCLUDED IN, IN EVERY CAR THAT'S ETHYLENE GLYCOL THAT'S INCLUDED IN, UH, COOLING SYSTEMS. WE HAVE COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT THE ENVIRONMENT IS PROTECTED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THROUGH THIS PROJECT, THROUGH MITIGATION, UM, OR SECONDARY CONTAINMENT, WHATEVER THAT MEANS TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE TOWN.
SO THAT WAY, IN THE VERY, VERY, UH, SLIGHT CHANCE THAT THE A HUNDRED GALLONS, 150 GALLONS OF COOLANT IN EACH ONE OF THESE WOULD ESCAPE.
IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT INTO THE GROUNDWATER OR INTO THE WETLAND AREA.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO JAMES ROBINSON TO CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION.
THANKS JOHN, AND THANKS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, I'LL, I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK, UH, 'CAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UM, MY COMPANY STRATA, WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER 250 PROJECTS, UH, INCLUDING OVER 2000 MEGAWATTS OF INSTALLED CAPACITY FOR REFERENCE.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS 20 MEGAWATTS.
UH, THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE SELECTED FOR THIS PROJECT IS MANUFACTURED BY TESLA.
TESLA HAS OVER 1000 MEGAWATTS OF STATIONARY STORAGE INSTALLED, AND, UH, THAT INCLUDES MORE THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND OF THEIR POWERWALL PRODUCT PRODUCTS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN PEOPLE'S HOMES.
THEY'VE NEVER HAD ANY FIRE RELATED INCIDENT WITH THESE PRODUCTS OR ANY OF THEIR PROJECTS.
UM, AS, UH, LENO MENTIONED, THEY CONDUCTED TESTING IN WHICH THEY INTENTIONALLY SET A FIRE WITHIN ONE OF THE BANGA PACK CONTAINERS AND SHOWED THAT THE FIRE DID NOT SPREAD TO ANY ADJACENT CONTAINERS.
STRATA HAS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING A DECOMMISSIONING BOND TO THE TOWN TO ENSURE THAT THE SYSTEM IS SAFELY DECOMMISSIONED AFTER, UH, ITS USEFUL LIFE IS UP.
UH, WE'VE ALSO COMMITTED TO CARRYING INSURANCE, INCLUDING POLLUTION INSURANCE, AND TO NAMING THE TOWN AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED ON THAT INSURANCE.
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THE GOLF COURSE WHERE IT IS LOCATED.IT, IT WILL PROVIDE A FIN FINANCIAL LIFELINE TO THE GOLF COURSE AND WILL HELP THE GOLF COURSE CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN ITS CURRENT CAPACITY, RATHER THAN, UH, POTENTIALLY NEEDING TO, TO SELL TO A DIFFERENT OWNER WHO COULD, UH, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE THAT THE GOLF COURSE CURRENTLY PROVIDES.
AND LASTLY, UH, THE ENVIRONMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, PROJECTS LIKE THIS HELP TO BRING RENEWABLE ENERGY TO WESTCHESTER INTO NEW YORK CITY, THEIR PRIORITY FOR THE STATE, AND THEY'LL BE COMMONPLACE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THIS PROJECT LOCATED IN GREENBURG, AND IT WILL PROVIDE A MODEL FOR, UM, THE ELECTRICITY GRID, UH, THAT, THAT OTHERS TOWNS IN THE STATE ARE QUICKLY ADOPTING.
UH, THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR PROPOSAL, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO TAKING ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I JUST HAD ONE, ONE QUESTION.
UH, THE DOCUMENT SAID, UH, THAT THERE'S NO SUBDIVISION IS BEING SOUGHT FROM, WHICH I ASSUME THE COMPANY WOULD LEASE THE PROPERTY.
WILL THERE BE AN INCREASED IN ASSESSMENT TAXES TO THE TOWN AND SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, RESULTING FROM, UH, THE LOCKED IN LONG-TERM INCOME GENERATING USE OF THE PROPERTY AND ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT FINANCIALLY? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE ASSESSOR.
SO, BUT I'M NOT A TAX EXPERT, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT BATTERY STORAGE PROJECTS LIKE THIS ARE TREATED AS REAL PROPERTY AND THEREFORE SUBJECT TO PROPERTY TAX.
UM, AND SO THAT THERE, THERE WOULD BE, UH, POTENTIAL, AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX, UH, GOING TO THE TOWN, UH, AND TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS BASED ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE ANY DETAILS ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
EE WOULD YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? BUT YOU'RE MUTED.
SORRY, I COULDN'T HIT THE BUTTON.
UM, I'M VAGUELY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT SO WE CAN MEET GARRETT AND JAMES AND WHOMEVER ELSE TO DISCUSS MORE DETAILS.
UM, RIGHT NOW, I, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER.
I, I JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
THEY DID SAY THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, OF COURSE, AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT I CAUGHT THAT
YOU, YOU'RE, YES, I'M SURE YOU DID.
I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT A NUMBER ON SOMETHING AND, AND JUST IN THE AIR.
SO, UH, YEAH, SOME, IT'S A, IT'S A KNOWABLE NUMBER THOUGH, RIGHT? UH, ANOTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, QUESTION THAT I HAD IS, UH, SOME PEOPLE HAVE CALLED ME DURING THE PAST A FEW DAYS, SAID, DO THEY WANT THE COUNTRY CLUB TO STAY COUNTRY CLUB AND BE GREEN? BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WORRIED THAT, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THIS COULD BE APPROVED.
AND THEN FIVE YEARS LATER, THE COUNTRY CLUB WILL GO OUT OF, UM, EXISTENCE AND THEY'LL STILL BE, UH, UM, THIS, UH, BATTERY, YOU KNOW, STORAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, FACILITY.
UM, ARE YOU, IS A COUNTRY CLUB WILLING TO PROVIDE US WITH MORE FINANCIAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE STATUS OF THEIR, THEIR FINANCES? AND WHAT ASSURANCES DOES THE TOWN HAVE THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS, THAT THE COUNTRY CLUB WILL SURVIVE FOR THE NEXT SAY, 20 YEARS, FOR 30 YEARS OR LONGER? OKAY.
SO, UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, SUPERVISOR FINER AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
UM, I'M THE PRESIDENT, RICHARD BOSCO, PRESIDENT OF NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU WHAT IN WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU NEED ABOUT NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
IT IS OUR INTENT AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO MAINTAIN NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB AS NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
AND I JOINED NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB IN 1988, AND WE HAD 230, WHAT WE CALL EQUIVALENT ACTIVE MEMBERS.
UM, WE MIGHT HAVE 350 MEMBERS, BUT SOME ARE ACTIVE MEMBERS, SOME ARE SENIORS, SOME ARE HOUSED, SOME ARE CLERGY.
THAT NARROWS DOWN TO 230 EAMS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 140 EEMS. THAT'S ALMOST HALF OF WHAT WE HAD 35 YEARS AGO.
AND IT'S NOT JUST NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB, IT'S MANY COUNTRY CLUBS, ELMWOOD COUNTRY CLUB NEXT DOOR, RIDGEWAY COUNTRY CLUB, AND WHITE PLAINS.
WE'RE ALL FEELING THE IMPACT OF THE ECONOMY OF WHAT IS WHAT IS THE NEW GOLF COURSE BUSINESS.
UM, THIS REVENUE FROM EAGLE ENERGY IS EQUIVALENT TO 10 ACTIVE MEMBERS PER YEAR FOR US FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS.
UM, WE INTEND TO BE NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB MOVING FORWARD, NOT JUST IN 2021, BUT IN 2041 AND 2051.
AND IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE, UH, INTIMATE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.
WE HAVE THE INFORMATION, WE HAVE
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THE BUDGETS, WE HAVE THE PROJECTIONS.UM, JUST LET ME KNOW HOW AND WHO TO GIVE THIS INFORMATION TO.
ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS NOW? UH, SO SUPERVISOR FINER, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS I HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A LARGE LIST.
SO, UH, I'M GONNA READ OFF THE LIST OF NAMES THAT I HAVE THAT PEOPLE DON'T, PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO HOLD UP THEIR HAND THE WHOLE TIME.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE ON THIS LIST, I HAVE YOU, WE WILL GET TO YOU.
IF YOU DON'T HEAR YOUR NAME CALLED AND YOU WANNA SPEAK, PLEASE JUST SIMPLY SEND ME A CHAT IN THE CHAT BOX AND, UH, WE WILL GET TO YOU.
SO MY LIST, HI, KEN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? CAN I ASK A QUESTION FIRST? GARRETT? OH, ABSOLUTELY, KEN.
UM, IN THE EVENT OF A STORM AND, UH, TREES FALLING DOWN, POTENTIALLY TAKING THE LINES DOWN THAT CONNECT TO THE ELMSFORD SUBSTATION, WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, JOHN? I WOULD, I WOULD POSE THIS ONE TO YOU, JOHN.
UM, SO IF THE LINES WENT DOWN BETWEEN OUR BATTERY PROJECT AND THE ELMSFORD SUBSTATION, THEN THE BATTERY WOULD, UH, STOP CHARGING OR DISCHARGING THERE WOULD, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY SAFETY RELATED EVENT AT THE BATTERY STORE.
IT WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST STOP CHARGING AND DISCHARGING.
UM, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FUNCTION, UM, BUT IT WOULDN'T CAUSE ANY KIND OF NEGATIVE, UH, EFFECT ON THE TOWN OR ON THE POWER OF THE TOWN.
IT WOULD JUST, UH, CEASE TO FUNCTION.
IT WOULD BE AS IF IT WASN'T THERE AT ALL.
AND WHAT, WHAT AREA WHERE, WHERE WOULD THE ENERGY THAT IS PRODUCED, UM, IN THE FACILITY GO? LIKE WHO, WHO'S BENEFITING FROM THE ENERGY? SO IT WOULD FEED INTO CON EDISON'S SUBSTATION, THEIR EXISTING SUBSTATION.
AND, UM, ANY, ANYONE WHO'S DOWNSTREAM OF THAT SUBSTATION WOULD, WOULD POTENTIALLY BE GETTING ENERGY FROM THE BATTERY STORAGE PROJECT.
UM, IT, IT'S, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CON EDISON'S INFORMATION, BUT IT WOULD BE A EFFECTIVELY ACT ACTING AS A RESOURCE FOR THEM TO KEEP THE POWER ON FOR PEOPLE THAT USE THAT SUBSTATION.
ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH, I, I WAS GONNA RESERVE SOME OF MY QUESTIONS 'CAUSE I HAVE QUITE A FEW, AND SO THEY'LL GET HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
BUT, UH, TWICE YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, THIS WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE RENEWABLE ENERGY COME TO GREENBERG.
YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE RENEWABLE ENERGY IN GREENBURG, CORRECT? NO, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL.
UH, COUNCILMAN SHEEN IN, IN ESSENCE, IT, WHAT WHAT THIS IS DESIGNED TO DO, ULTIMATELY I IS, YOU KNOW, BATTERY INJURY STORAGE SYSTEMS ARE, ARE, OR IN ESSENCE WILL PHASE OUT.
THEY'RE DESIGNED TO PHASE OUT FOSSIL FUEL POWER PLANTS AND HOPEFULLY COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND IT BRINGS RENEWABLE ENERGY TO GREENBERG.
AND JUST THE KEY THING HERE TOO, IT BRINGS THAT AT A FRACTION OF THE FOOTPRINT THAN LET'S SAY A WIND OR SOLAR FARM WOULD DO.
SO WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GET GREEN ENERGY.
THIS IS A METHOD OF DOING SO, AND IT'S A METHOD THAT INVOLVES A LOT LESS SPACE GEOGRAPHICALLY THAN A SOLAR OR, OR A, A WIND FARM.
SO, HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
BUT THE, THE SECOND PART OF THAT WAS, IS THAT THIS WOULD BE ABLE TO STORE THE SOLAR ENERGY AND THE WIND, WIND ENERGY.
BUT YOU'RE PULLING OFF THE GRID, RIGHT? YOU'RE PULLING OFF DIRTY ENERGY AS WELL.
YOU, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT SOLELY PICK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT CONNECTED TO ANY WIND FARM SOMEPLACE YOU'RE GONNA PULL OFF OF THE CONNET GRID GRID, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE GEOGRAPHY AND CONSTRAINTS OF THE GRID IN NEW YORK STATE, THERE'S A LOT OF RENEWABLE ENERGY UPSTATE THAT CANNOT MAKE ITS WAY DOWNSTATE TO WHERE MOST OF THE LOAD IS IN THE, IN WESTCHESTER AND IN NEW YORK CITY.
UM, SO TO SOLVE THAT, UH, THERE EITHER NEEDS TO BE MORE RENEWABLES BUILT, DOWNSTATE, WHICH AS LENO POINTED OUT, HAS A LARGER FOOTPRINT, UM, MORE TRANSMISSION LINES TO CARRY THE ENERGY DOWN, WHICH HAS ITS OWN CHALLENGES OR BATTERY STORAGE PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE THAT ALLOW THAT ENERGY TO COME DOWN TO THE DOWNSTATE AREA DURING OFF-PEAK TIMES AND THEN BE USED DURING THE, THE PEAK TIMES.
SO HOW, HOW DO YOU CONNECT TO THE WIND POWER AND THE, UH, SOLAR FARMS UPSTATE? SO THEY'RE ON THE GRID AS WELL.
UM, SO THE SAME NETWORK WILL BE CARRYING THEIR ENERGY, UH, DOWN TO THE, THE USERS DOWN HERE AS WELL AS TO OUR BATTERY.
SO YOU'RE PULLING OFF THE GRID, WHETHER NO MATTER WHERE THE SOURCE OF THAT POWER CAME FROM, RIGHT? YEAH, I GUESS, YES.
I I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF YOU TAKE SOME OF THAT LOAD OFF AND STORE IT, YOU'RE USING IT UP DURING THE DAYTIME, UH, SO TO SPEAK, UH, OR, OR, OR MAYBE AT NIGHT, AND THEN YOU'RE PUTTING IT BACK OUT IN THE DAYTIME WHEN THERE, THERE MIGHT BE A POWER SHORTAGE, BUT IT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
IT'S NOT LIKE, RIGHT, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE A CONNECTION TO THE WIND POWER
AND ALSO, COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT
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SIZE, AND THEN I'LL, I'D HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, WHAT SIZE CABLES ARE YOU USING FOR THE, UM, THE STORAGE AND THEN THE DISCHARGE THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE RUNNING THROUGH THE, THE STREETS? YES.I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, 12 KILOVOLTS IS THE RATING OF THE CABLE.
DO YOU HAVE A SIZE ON THAT? UM, IT'S, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT CONED USES.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT A CONED POWER LINE THAT IS ABOVE, ABOVE A STREET, THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE.
IT'S, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.
I I, YEAH, I, I'LL, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT I, I HAVE A BUNCH OF BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, SO WHY DON'T YOU GET ON YOUR LIST, GARRETT? YES.
SO I'M, IF YOU DON'T HEAR YOUR NAME CALLED AND YOU DO INTEND TO SPEAK, JUST SIMPLY SEND A CHAT TO GARRETT DUQUE, AND I WILL ADD YOU TO THE LIST.
I WILL CALL PETE SPEAKERS ONE BY ONE, BUT HERE'S MY LIST.
UH, WALTER SIMON, HUGH SCHWARTZ, YOSS PAUL COLIN MCCARTHY, JAMES JONES, ROBERT BERNSTEIN, PAUL FIORI, BETSY MCCORMICK, NICK GRETTO, UH, DAN THOMASETTI.
TONY DELILAH MADE OSHE, MIKE SIEGEL, BARRY TORRY, ARLENE RICE, MURRAY BODEN.
AND IF I CALLED YOUR NAME JUST NOW AND YOU DON'T WANNA SPEAK, UH, YOU CAN ALSO CHAT THAT TO ME AS WELL.
SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, CHAIRPERSON OF THE PLANNING BOARD, WALTER SIMON.
AND EVERYBODY GETS FIVE MINUTES AND I'M TIMING EVERYBODY, SO PLEASE, UH, TRY TO STAY WITHIN THAT, UH, THOSE TIMEFRAMES.
UH, MR. FINE, MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, UM, UH, MY FIRST COMMENT IS THAT THE, THE PLANNING BOARD IS AN INVOLVED AGENCY.
WE, THE TOWN BOARD SPECIFICALLY ASKED US TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO AS A INVOLVED AGENCY WHO GAVE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD, I DON'T, UH, UH, I'M REQUESTING THAT A TIME LIMIT, THE FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S START WITH YOUR COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE TOWN BOARD DECIDE.
YEAH, BUT I'M, IT'S A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE.
IF WE INVOLVED AGENCY THAT SHOULD GIVE, THAT'S A DIFFERENCE.
UH, AND, AND GAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT ALONE SHOULD JUSTIFY NOT APPLYING THE FIVE MINUTE RULE TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
UM, UM, FIRST OF ALL, LIKE I SAID, I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, ADDRESS THE, THE TOWN BOARD AND, UH, ANSWER QUESTIONS, UH, THAT THE TOWN BOARD MIGHT HAVE REGARDING OUR RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THE APPLICATION BEFORE US, UH, THE BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY, UH, REPRESENT A POSSIBLE NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND DEFINITELY, UH, NEW CHALLENGES.
UH, THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, ASKED FOR EXTENSION BEFORE BECAUSE WE KNEW THIS WAS A VERY INVOLVED, UH, DECISION, THEN WE MUST DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN DOING THAT.
THE OVERRIDING OBJECTIVE IS TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE A DECISION THAT IS IN THE BEST LONG TERM INTEREST OF THE TOWN.
WITH THAT SAID, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE HAD TO CONSIDER IN TRYING TO ACHIEVE THAT, THAT OBJECTIVE.
UH, WE KNOW THE ISSUE, UH, AND THE NEED FOR RENEW RENEWABLE ENERGY.
AND FOR THAT, WE THANK THE TOWN FOR MAKING PROGRESS IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
SO WE KNOW THAT'S ONE OF OUR CALL MAYBE PRINCIPLES THAT WE HAVE TO BE GUIDED BY.
THE OTHER IS THE NEED TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESSES TO THE TOWN, UH, AND THE CONVERT EFFECT ON THAT.
UH, AND, UH, THE, THE NEED TO SUPPORT AND MAINTAIN CURRENT BUSINESSES AND TO SEE HOW THAT COULD BE DONE, UH, WHETHER OR NOT, UH, UH, UH, THE CURRENT CODE IS APPLICABLE TO SUPPORTING THAT EFFORT.
YOU SEE, UH, OBVIOUSLY IN, UH, ATTRACTING NEW BUSINESSES IN THE TOWN IS CRITICAL.
WE SEE THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES RIGHT NOW ON MAJOR CORRIDORS CON HAS, HAS TOLD MANY AS INDICATED TO MANY,
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UH, LARGER CORPORATIONS.THEY DO NOT HAVE TO WORK WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR STAFF, UH, IN THE OFFICE.
SO THERE, AND OR THERE ARE PROJECTIONS THAT THE, UM, UH, THE NEED FOR OFFICE SPACE WILL DECREASE.
SO WE'LL BE, BECOME, WE WILL HAVE THE COMPOUND EFFECT OF VACANT RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT AND VACANT OFFICE BILLS.
SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT IS A IS, IS, IS, UH, IMPORTANT THING.
WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT DEPENDING UPON WHAT SOURCES ARE, UH, WHAT'S, WHAT ARE THE SOURCES OF THE INFORMATION, THAT ABOUT 60% OF, AS MUCH AS SOME ESTIMATE HAVE, AS MUCH AS 60% OF ALL RESTAURANTS IN THE, UH, UH, WILL NOT REOPEN.
SO WE RECOGNIZE THERE IS A NEED FOR NEW BUSINESSES COME IN AND SUPPORT THE CURRENT BUSINESS.
THE KEY ISSUE IS CAN YOU DO IT WITH A APPLICABLE, UH, SPECIAL PERMIT? THAT IS THE CASE.
AND, UM, AND, UH, SO THIS MIGHT BE A UNIQUE LOCATION, BUT DOES THE SPECIAL PERMIT APPLY? SO I, I WILL TURN THAT OVER TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
AND WHEN HE'S FINISHED, I WANT TO GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE, THE CONDITION, BECAUSE WE FULLY REALIZE AND FULLY ACCEPT THAT THE, THAT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS A TOWN BOARD DECISION.
AND AFTER, UH, HEARING OUR CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, THE SPECIAL PERMIT, THE TOWN IN THIS, IN THIS JUDGMENT COULD SAY, THAT DOES NOT, UH, MEAN THAT YOU WILL NOT GO FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE LISTS OF, UH, CONDITIONS, SHOULD THAT BE THE TOWN BOARD'S DECISION.
SO WHEN YOU FINISH TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, UH, THE CODES, I WOULD LIKE TO THEN DOUBLE BACK AND GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS.
THE APPLICANT SAID THAT HE, UH, UH, AGREE WITH SOME OF THOSE CONDITIONS, BUT DID NOT ARTICULATE WHICH ONES.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.
WITH THAT SAID, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU SPORTS TO, TO, UM, TALK ABOUT, AND THEN I'LL RETURN WITH, UH, MY COMMENT ON, UM, UH, ON, UH, UH, THE CONDITION.
SO BEFORE MR. BEGIN, I KNOW THE TOWN BOARD HAS CERTAIN RULES, BUT I'D LIKE SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE TOWN BOARD AS TO HOW THEY WANT TO HANDLE THIS.
UH, GIVEN THAT YOU HAVE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS HERE AND OTHER PEOPLE, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANNA SPEAK, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED? AND PAUL, YOU'RE ON MUTE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY YEAH, YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY WILL LISTEN TO WHATEVER THE BOARD WANTS, YOU KNOW? UH, THE MORE INPUT WE GET, THE BETTER.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, I MAY, MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS HAVE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS KEEP TO THE, UM, THE TIME PERIOD.
AND THEN AFTER EVERYBODY SPEAKS, THEN WE COULD, UM, HEAR THEM AGAIN.
IF THEY WANNA STAY ON FOR THE WHOLE DISCUSSION, WE COULD, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY NINE 15 AND IT'S GONNA TAKE, COULD TAKE TWO HOURS TO HEAR EVERYBODY.
SO, UH, MR. SWARTZ, YOU'RE UP AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
WE ARE A BOARD OF THE TOWN, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S, AND I'LL, I'LL SAY THAT I DIDN'T PLAN TO TAKE MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES, BUT I DO MR. LEWIS AND MR. FINER REQUEST THAT AFTER I SPEAK, THAT YOU LET YOU GIVE ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES, AT LEAST TO MR. SIMON SO YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONS.
I, WE BELIEVE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AGAIN, NO PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HEAR FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'RE BORED, TIM, AND, AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK.
WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PUT INTO THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
WE REQUESTED TO SPEAK AS A BOARD TONIGHT.
SOMEHOW THAT GOT LOST IN TRANSLATION.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS OFFLINE.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, I WANT, I, I CAN DO MINE IN LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES, I BELIEVE, OR CLOSE TO FIVE MINUTES.
BUT MR. SIMON NEEDS AT LEAST ANOTHER FIVE, UH, PROBABLY ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES AS WELL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M REQUESTING AT THIS POINT.
UH, I'M JUST GONNA DISCUSS A SPECIAL PERMIT, UM, AND WHY WE DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S APPLICABLE.
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SPECIAL PERMIT PROVISION WAS WRITTEN WELL BEFORE, UM, THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES WERE ANTICIPATED.IT WAS ALSO WRITTEN WELL BEFORE, UM, SOLAR, SOLAR FARMS WERE ANTICIPATED, OR WIND FARMS WERE ANTICIPATED.
AND IF YOU APPROVE THIS, UH, AS A BATTERY AND USE IT FOR THE, FOR THIS BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY, YOU COULD JUST AS EASILY USE THE SAME, UH, SPECIAL PERMIT TO APPROVE A WIND FARM OR A, UH, SO SOLAR FIELD.
AND WE DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE, NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE AT SOME POINT.
AND DO WE THINK WE NEED A SPECIAL PERMIT TO DEAL WITH ALL THOSE? WE ABSOLUTELY DO.
BUT THIS, THIS LAW COULD NOT BE FOR THOSE BECAUSE IT WASN'T, THEY WEREN'T AROUND WHEN THE THE LAW WAS PASSED.
SECOND, THE LAW AS WRITTEN EXCLUDES LARGE STRUCTURES.
IT EXCLUDES SUBSTATIONS, IT EXCLUDES, UM, OFFICE BUILDINGS.
IT EXCLUDES STORAGE YARDS AND STORAGE FACILITIES.
IT WAS REALLY MEANT TO PUT POLES AND TRANSFORMERS UP, NOT TO BUILD AN ACRE OF ANYTHING.
SO THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW AS IT'S WRITTEN, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN, IF IT WERE AROUND, IT PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN EXCLUDED.
THIRD IS A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS TRULY A PUBLIC UTILITY.
A PUBLIC UTILITY, UNDER OUR DEFINITION OF THE TOWN CODE, REQUIRES THAT THEY SELL TO THE PUBLIC.
THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING THE, THE ENERGY OF THE PUBLIC.
THEY'RE SELLING THE ENERGY BACK TO CONED FOUR.
UM, THE TOWN, THE CODE, IF YOU ARE GONNA USE A SPECIAL PERMIT, UH, AS WRITTEN SAYS VERY SPECIFICALLY THAT NO OTHER REASONABLE LOCATION IS AVAILABLE IN A LESS RESTRICTIVE ZONE.
THIS IS IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ANALYSIS OF OTHER POTENTIAL PLACES WHERE THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PUT.
AND WITHOUT THAT, I DON'T SEE HOW THE TOWN BOARD COULD APPROVE IT.
AND FIVE, AND FRANCIS KNOWS THIS, AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE WERE ON THE COMMITTEE THAT WORKED ON THIS.
WE DON'T WRITE, UM, SPECIAL PERMITS WITHOUT DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE DID, FOR EXAMPLE, OR RECENTLY ON CCCS.
WE'RE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT BUFFERS.
WE'RE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT MINIMUM ACREAGE.
WE'RE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT F A R.
AND THE REASON WHY THEY'RE ABLE, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, TO AVOID THE UNDERLYING ZONE, WHICH MOST SPECIAL PERMITS ALLOW, ARE REQUIRED TO DO IS BECAUSE IT'S A LEASE, NOT A SALE.
IF THIS WAS A SALE, THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SUBDIVISION.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO, TO MEET THE F A R REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNDER UNDERLYING ZONE AND THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNDERLYING ZONE, BECAUSE IT'S A LEASE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO, BY THE WAY, FRANCIS, I WOULD SUSPECT YOU'D NEED TO LOOK VERY CAREFULLY AT FIN THE FINANCIAL PART OF IT, BECAUSE IT IS A LEASE WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE PROFIT GOING TO THE COMPANY THAT THE LEASE THE LESSEE, NOT TO THE LANDOWNER.
SO HOW MUCH IT WOULDN'T INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, INCREASE TAXES, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT NOWHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS WHAT THIS IS, IF IT WAS OWNED, IT'D BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE VALUE WOULD GO UP.
IT'D BE CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CASE OF A GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
SO THAT REALLY DOES NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
SO IN, IN SUMMARY, VERY SIMPLY, THIS IS SETTING A VERY, VERY BAD PRECEDENT IF YOU USE A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR THIS PURPOSE.
AND VERY DANGEROUS TO PUT THIS IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE WITHOUT A BUFFER, WITHOUT ANY BUFFER WHATSOEVER.
IF, FOR INSTANCE, GOD FORBID, UH, NO WOULD GO HAVE TO SELL AND, AND DEVELOP, DEVELOP THE LAND AS RESIDENTIAL, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA PUT THE BUFFER IN? YOU CAN'T PUT IT IN THEM, BECAUSE THOSE WILL BE AS OF RIGHT SUBDIVISIONS, BASICALLY.
YOU CAN'T FORCE SOMEBODY WHO ISN'T CAUSING THE PROBLEM TO HAVE THE BUFFER.
IF YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, YOU HAVE TO PUT THE BUFFER IN.
NOW, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO WALTER SIMON FOR HIS COMMENTS ON THE SITE PLAN.
MY CONDITION, MY, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IS ON THE CONDITION.
IF THE TOWN BOARD DECIDES THAT THEY, UH, WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS APPLICATION, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT SHOULD BE IN THERE.
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TALK ABOUT FIRE AND AND SAFETY, UH, ONE OTHER THING, AND THIS IS FROM THE TESLA'S OWN EMERGENCY, UH, RESPONSE GUIDE, WHERE THEY INDICATE THAT WATER IS JUST USED TO COOL THE BATTERY, IT'S NOT MEANT TO PUT OUT THE FIRE, AND A FIRE COULD TAKE AS, AS A DAY OR MORE DEPENDING UPON THE SIZE TO GO OUT.AND DURING THAT TIME, TOXIC FUMES ARE GENERATED.
TESLA THEMSELVES RECOMMEND THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE, UH, UH, SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS WHEN THEY, UH, UH, PUT THE FIRE OUT.
NOW, THEIR CONS, CONSPIRE CONSULTANT IS A RETIRED LIEUTENANT FROM NEW YORK CITY, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT, PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST, IF NOT THE BEST EQUIPPED AND TRAINED FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY.
BUT NOW WE PUT IN THIS TYPE OF, AND THE, THE FIRE LIEUTENANT DIDN'T VIEW THAT AS A MAJOR ISSUE, BUT WE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT, MANY OF WHO ARE PART-TIME FIREMEN.
THEY DO THE, THEY DO A GOOD JOB, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE OF A NEW YORK CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO THEY NEED TRAINING IN TERMS OF HOW TO PUT OUT A FIRE.
AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE SELF-CONTAINED APPARATUS INDICATE IT'S NOT A, JUST A SIMPLE FIRE.
UH, UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UH, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, CLAIMS THAT THESE ARE VERY SAFE.
AND JUST RECENTLY IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, JUST ABOUT, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT IN OCTOBER, THERE WAS A REPORT ON, ON, UM, UH, LITHIUM BATTERIES CATCHING ON FIRE.
UH, UM, AND THERE WAS A RECALL BY, UH, TESLA.
SO TESLA IS, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
IT IS OUTSTANDING COMPANY, BUT IT'S NOT PERFECT.
SO YOU CAN'T ASSUME THAT FIRES IN THESE CONTAINERS WILL NOT HAPPEN.
SO THERE HAS TO BE A COMPONENT FOR TRAINING OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS FOR THE, FOR USING, UH, PUTTING OUT THESE TYPES OF FILES.
THE OTHER POINT THAT THE, UH, UH, THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THERE'S NO NEED FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WATER WILL TAKE CARE OF IT, WHAT I WOULD THINK, BUT THEY HAVE NOT SHOWN ANY DATA THAT A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IN A GAS STATION WHERE YOU HAVE CARBON DIOXIDE OR POWDER COATING OR SOMETHING TO PUT OUT THAT FIRE, THEY HAVE NOT SHOWN, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD ANY DATA THAT A SYSTEM LIKE THAT WOULD NOT WORK.
A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IS A RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE PIECE OF APPARATUS.
YOU HAVE A TANK, YOU HAVE SOME, UH, TUBING, AND YOU HAVE A FIRE SENSOR.
WHEN IT GOES OFF, IT, UH, IT, IT WOULD, UH, UH, PUT OUT THE FIRE.
YOU, YOU COULD SEE IT IN ANY FIRE STATEMENT.
IT'S NOT A VERY HIGHLY TECHNICAL PIECE OF APPARATUS.
SO I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S NOT, UH, PERMITTED AND WHY THEY ARE NOT INCLUDING THAT IN THEIR, UH, PROPOSAL.
IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, THE USE OF ETHYLENE GLYCOL, WE KNOW THAT E ETHYLENE GLYCOL IS A TOXIC SUBSTANCE.
UH, THERE'S A NON-TOXIC SUBSTANCE, PROPYLENE GLYCOL, WHICH IS A FOOD ADDITIVE YOU COULD USE, BUT IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE AND IT DOES NOT HAVE THE EFFICIENCY OF ETHYLENE GLYCO.
SO, SO I COULD UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO USE ETHYLENE GLYCO, HOWEVER, IN USING IT.
YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD, AND YOU MUST HAVE A TY, A SECONDARY RETENTION SYSTEM.
UH, THESE BATTERIES HAVE A RETENTION SYSTEM ON THE BOTTOM OF THE CASE, BUT YOU NEED TO GO BEYOND THAT.
IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, ETHYLENE GLYCOL, UH, UM, UH, LEAVES THE, THE CONTAINER RIGHT
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UNDERNEATH IT IS, IS POROUS CONCRETE WILL JUST GO THROUGH THE CONCRETE, GO INTO, UH, UH, THE SOIL.THE SOIL IS NEXT TO A WETLANDS, AND EVENTUALLY IT WILL MIGRATE INTO THE WETLAND.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I COME OUTTA THE CHEMISTRY INDUSTRY AND I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CHEMICALS GO INTO THE GROUND.
THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE PROCESS TO REMOVE IT.
AND YOU ASK ANY HOMEOWNER WHO HAD A OIL TANK, A VERY OIL TANK LEAK INTO THEIR LAWN, AND YOU SEE HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAD TO SPEND TO CLEAN THAT UP.
SO THEN NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL NEXT DOOR WETLAND.
SO A SECONDARY CONTAINMENT SYSTEM TO ME IS A MUST.
UM, THE APPLICANT TALKED ABOUT ANOTHER ISSUE, WHICH WAS THE BOND.
I'M GLAD THAT THEY RECOGNIZED, UH, UH, THERE'S A NEED FOR A BOND.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW, WHAT THE, THE AMOUNT SHOULD BE, BUT THE TOWN NEED TO GET SOMEONE TO, WHO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE EXPERTISE TO SAY, THIS IS THE SIZE OF THE BARN, WE NEED TO PROTECT THE TOWN, AND HAS OF, UM, THE ORGANIZATION GOES BANKRUPT AND WE HAVE TO RE RENEW, UH, REMOVE, UH, THE FACILITY, OR IF WE HAVE CONTAMINATION, UH, IN THE WETLANDS, OR IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER LIABILITY TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
SO I'M GLAD THAT THEY SAY THEY AGREE TO THAT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK, I THINK I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE TOWN BOARD, UH, UH, PURSUE.
ALRIGHT, SO MR. SIMON, I HATE TO INTERRUPT, BUT I, I JUST WANNA GIVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I'M JUST, I THINK YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU AND YOU CAN UP, BUT I JUST WANNA GIVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE AND THAT'S FINE.
GARY, DO YOU HAVE, UH, OTHER SPEAKERS? YES, YOGESH PAUL, WHO I BELIEVE, UH, INDICATED HE WANTS TO SHARE SCREEN, SO THAT'S ENABLED.
SO YOU CAN GO, YOU CAN SPEAK, UH, PLEASE.
CAN EVERY, CAN, IS THERE ANYONE THAT CAN HEAR ME? JUST, UM, I GUESS WAVE OR SOMETHING? AUDIO'S FINE, SIR.
CAN YOU GUYS SEE MY SCREEN? YES.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS.
I DID LOOK AT THE VIDEO FROM THE PRIOR TOWN HEARING, SO I HAVE, UH, GOOD CONTEXT.
I DID LOOK AT, UM, VARIOUS ITEMS AND RESEARCH AS IT RELATES TO THIS.
UH, I HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY HERE.
BASICALLY, IT TO ME, THE TIMELINE IS RUSHED.
THERE'S INSUFFICIENT TIME TO EVALUATE THE RISKS AND BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT.
BASED ON THE LAST HEARING, THE APPLICANT'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE OCTOBER.
JUST AT THIS HEARING, THE APPLICANT SAID THEY REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I, I LIVE, UM, UH, RIGHT OFF OF NORWOOD ON, UM, SOUTH MANOR DRIVE.
AND THE ONLY COMMUNICATION I RECEIVED WAS FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, FROM A LETTER DATED DECEMBER 1ST.
UM, AND ALSO IN THAT HEARING, THE SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF WERE ONLY INVOLVED AT THE END OF NOVEMBER.
OVERALL, THIS SEEMS TO BE RUSHED, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, UH, UH, REQUESTED IN THE PRIOR HEARING, SOME SORT OF INITIAL APPROVAL PRIOR TO THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, WHICH AGAIN, I BELIEVE IS TOO SOON.
BATTERY TECHNOLOGY RISKS ARE NOT FULLY EVALUATED OR DIS DISCLOSED.
THERE'S EXPLOSION AND FIRE RISKS.
UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ENGINEERING, UH, EVALUATION FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, AND THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THEY RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM THE TOWN OF ELMSFORD FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG'S FIRE DEPARTMENT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE EVALUATED IT AND CONFIRMED THAT THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO MANAGE AN EXPLOSION OR FIRE AT THE SITE.
THE BENEFITS TO ME, APPEAR TO BE LIMITED ONLY TO NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO THE TOWN OR ITS RESIDENTS.
AND SO THE BENEFIT GOES TO NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
WITH THE RISKS BEING ABSORBED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND ITS RESIDENTS, THERE'S OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ADDRESSED, AND THERE'S INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.
UM, BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEMS, THEY'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH FIRES AND EXPLOSIONS.
UM, IN ARIZONA IT HURT NINE FIREFIGHTERS, AND THERE'S MULTIPLE POINTS OF FAILURE.
IT'S NOT JUST FROM THE BATTERY TECHNOLOGY, BASICALLY HOW THE SYSTEM IS INSTALLED.
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IS A LONG LIST OF EXAMPLES WHERE THESE ISSUES WERE CALLED BY CAUSED BY IMPROPER INSTALLATION.AND THEN IN ITS USE, IF YOU CHARGE AND DISCHARGE THE BATTERIES TOO FREQUENTLY AND DON'T CONTROL FOR THAT, AGAIN, THAT CAN RESULT IN ANOTHER EXPLOSION SYSTEM.
AND I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THIS POWERPOINT WITH THE BOARD OR THE TOWN, WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
I HAVE SOURCES FOR ALL OF THESE, UM, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT ON, ON THE INTERNET.
ALSO, IN KOREA, THERE HAVE BEEN 23 FIRES IN SOUTH KOREA AS IT RELATES TO BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEMS ASSOCIATED WITH $32 MILLION WITH MULTIPLE POINTS OF FAILURE, INCLUDING BATTERY CELL DEFECTS.
I, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE HERE.
SO E EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE IT HAS BEEN INSTALLED, AND YOU'LL FIND THAT THESE HAVEN'T BEEN INSTALLED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, IT HASN'T BEEN INSTALLED WITHIN 750 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THESE ARE INSTALLED IN FARAWAY LOCATIONS WHERE IT IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL ZONE OPEN QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG.
THE HONEST TRUTH IS THERE'S NO ONE ENTITY THAT'S GOING TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR AN EXPLOSION FIRE OR OTHER INCIDENT.
AND WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS IS WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG IS PEOPLE POINT THEIR FINGERS AT EACH OTHER AND THERE'S GONNA BE MONTHS AND YEARS OF LITIGATION THAT THE TOWN'S GONNA BE INVOLVED WITH JUST TO GET COMPENSATED, NOT TO ADDRESS ANY HEALTH CONCERNS THAT MIGHT EMANATE FROM SUCH AN INCIDENT.
UM, HOW MANY TRANSFORMERS ARE GONNA BE INSTALLED? IT'S NOT JUST THE BATTERY.
THERE IS GONNA BE TRANSFORMERS AND OTHER WIRING HERE.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE INSTALLATION AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST FOCUS ON THE BATTERY SYSTEM.
UM, THERE WAS ALREADY TALK ABOUT ASSOCIATED WIRES AND CONNECTIONS, SO I'LL LEAVE THAT ONE ALONE.
AND AGAIN, MY POINT BEFORE IS WHERE ARE THE EXAMPLES WHERE SUCH A SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT? UM, AND ALSO FROM THE NOISE PERSPECTIVE, UM, THERE IS GONNA BE INCREASED NOISE.
UM, WHAT IS THE INCREASED NOISE, NOT JUST FROM THE BATTERY SYSTEM, BUT ALSO THE TRANSFORMERS? THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS THAT I'VE HEARD IN, IN GREENBERG.
I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THE TOWN FOR 10 YEARS WHERE CON ED WILL PUT UP A TRANSFORMER SOMEWHERE AND IT GENERATES NOISE AND THE RESIDENTS CAN HEAR IT.
SO THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EVALUATION OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GOING TO BE NOISE AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
UM, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, ELMSFORD VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S RELEVANT.
WE NEED TO GET THE TOWN OF GREENBERG'S FIRE DEPARTMENT TO EVALUATE THIS PROPERLY.
AS MANY OF THE RESIDENTS KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE HIGH WINDS AND DOWN TREES EVERY YEAR.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CONTINGENCY PLAN IF THERE ARE WIND DOWN TREES AROUND THAT AREA.
UH, AND THAT CAUSES A FIRE BECAUSE IT GETS INTO THE TRANSFORMER, NOT EVEN THE BATTERY.
AND AS THE APPLICANT HAS SAID, IT'S SURROUNDED BY VEGETATION.
A FIRE THAT SPREADS VERY QUICKLY THROUGHOUT THAT AREA IS GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT TO CONTROL.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ANTICIPATED IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT'S GONNA AGREE AND JUST THE APPLICANT FOR LIABILITY FOR THE ENTIRE DAMAGE.
WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOU CAN HAVE AN INSURANCE POLICY, BUT I KNOW IN, IN MY DAY JOB, TRYING TO GET AN INSURANCE COMPANY TO PAY FOR WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR, AGAIN, REQUIRES LITIGATION.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE'S JUST GONNA CUT A CHECK EASILY.
I HAVEN'T SEEN A COMPLETE BENEFITS AND RISKS EVALUATION.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS TALK ON THE PRIOR HEARING ABOUT SOME EVALUATION OF THIS PROJECT IN NON-RESIDENTIAL AREAS, BUT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO TO USE THOSE AREAS BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME SORT OF 50 YEAR LEASE REQUIREMENT.
IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME AS TO WHAT THIS LEASE REQUIREMENT IS AND WHY THEY CANNOT, AND IF THEY HAVE LOOKED AT ALL OTHER AREAS THAT ARE NOT RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS SOME, UH, DISCUSSION THAT IF, IF WE DON'T DO THIS AT THE KNOLLWOOD COUNTRY CLUB, THERE WOULD BE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE USED.
QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T SEE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE'D HAVE MORE HOUSES, MORE TAXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY COST IS HERE AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT COULD BRING MORE REVENUE TO THE TOWN.
HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? WHAT ARE THE NOISE LEVELS OF, UH, CON THE CONSTRUCTION? NO ONE'S ADDRESSED THAT.
UM, MY OVERALL RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE APPLICATION BE REJECTED OR DENIED.
THERE'S JUST NOT INSUFFICIENT TIME.
THERE'S SUFFICIENT RECORDS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN EXPLOSIONS AND FIRES FROM THESE SYSTEMS. I'VE DISCUSSED THOSE, AND THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO THE TOWN HERE, AND SUCH A PROJECT SHOULDN'T BE RUSHED.
I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT THE OTHER, UH, POINTS THAT WERE MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T FALL WITHIN, UH, SPECIAL PERMITTING.
AND THIS IS JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME SORT OF, UM, ATTEMPT TO USE A LOOPHOLE TO GET THIS APPROVED.
AGAIN, AS A RESIDENT, I, I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT TO THE TOWN.
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RISKS.HELLO, COLIN MCCARTHY, PRESIDENT OF THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL.
UM, ON THE, UH, THE, THE COUNCIL, THE RESIDENTS OF EDGEMONT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE THE, THE INNOVATIVE IDEAS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING THROWN AROUND HERE.
BUT WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
UM, THE FIRST BEING FIRE, AND IT'S BEEN MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY TO TREES.
IF SOMETHING HITS THIS, UH, ONE OF THESE UNITS, HOW, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT, THAT IT DOESN'T CASCADE OR A LOCAL FIRE DOESN'T SPREAD TO THIS FROM, FROM THE GROUND AREA AND AND END UP IGNITING THESE, THESE, UH, THESE UNITS? UH, THERE HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH CONSULTATION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
UM, THIS IS A TYPE OF FIRE CAN BURN FOR 24 HOURS, WE HEAR IN JUST ONE UNIT.
IF IT CASCADES TO MULTIPLE UNITS, HOW LONG CAN THAT BURN THERE? THERE'S ENERGY THAT'S, UH, STILL HAS TO BE DISSIPATED FROM THESE UNITS.
UM, SO MUTUAL AID IS, IS GOING TO BE INVOKED LIKELY.
SO WE SHOULD CONSULT WITH WHITE PLAINS, WITH, UH, GREENVILLE, WITH HARTSDALE, WITH ANYONE WHO, WHO'S GONNA HAVE TO COME ENSURE THEY HAVE PROPER TRAINING.
LET'S NOT PUT, UH, PUT OUR FIREFIGHTERS AT RISK FOR FOR NO REASON.
UM, UNLESS WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE, THESE LITHIUM ION BATTERY BURNING LIKE THIS IS GONNA SPEW TOXIC FUMES.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE, UM, WOULD BE WILLING TO THROW BATTERIES IN THEIR FIREPLACE, UM, AND, AND, AND INGEST THOSE FUMES.
SO ARE, ARE WE, DO WE REALLY WANNA PUT OUR RESIDENTS IN PROXIMITY TO THIS LOCATION, UM, IN THAT KIND OF DANGER? UM, AND, AND AGAIN, GROUND RUNOFF HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU IMAGINE A FIRE THERE AND, AND FIREFIGHTERS COMING AND SOAKING IT WITH HOSES, THERE'S, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO CONTAIN THE, THE LEAKAGE OF CHEMICALS AT THAT POINT.
UM, FROM AN ECONOMICS STANDPOINT, UM, YOU KNOW, I I, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? WE DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS ON HOW MUCH TAX REVENUE WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA GET FROM THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MR. SCHWARTZ'S POINT EARLIER, UM, IS THIS, THIS ISN'T REALLY BENEFITING, UH, THE RESIDENTS HERE.
THE, THE POWER IS BEING PURCHASED FROM CONED AND SOLD BACK TO CONED.
SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY COMPETING WITH THE CONSUMERS IN GREENBURG.
UM, AND IT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE WHAMMY 'CAUSE THEY'RE PULLING ADDITIONAL POWER AT NIGHT, UM, WHEN RESIDENTS ARE PULLING IT AND THEN THEY'RE SELLING IT BACK, UM, AT THE PEAK TIME.
BUT A ANYONE WHO'S SPENT MONEY AND INSTALLED SOLAR PANELS IN THEIR HOUSE HAS DONE SO ON THE BASIS THAT THEY COULD ALSO SELL BACK.
SO ALL OF A SUDDEN IF WE END UP, WE OPEN PANDORA'S BOX, WE LET, UH, ONE BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY AND THERE'LL BE MANY MORE THAT ARE GONNA TRY TO FOLLOW.
AND AT WHAT POINT DO WE DRIVE DOWN THE PRICES, UH, UH, THAT PEOPLE CAN SELL BACK AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, END UP WITH A, A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM.
AND A LOT OF ANGRY RESIDENTS WHO ARE GONNA WONDER WHY THE TOWN BOARD THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY TO DO THIS.
UM, AND LET AND
UM, THERE WAS TALK OF, OF BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE FORM OF JOBS.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HEARD HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE TO CONSTRUCT THIS, BUT ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION CREWS GONE, THIS IS AN UNMANNED FACILITY.
UH, THIS ISN'T A PLACE THAT'S SELLING, UH, YOU, YOU KNOW, FOOD TO THE PUBLIC OR, OR OFFERING MEDICAL SERVICES.
THIS IS JUST A GIANT BATTERY THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY LEACHING OFF THE, THE CONED POWER SUPPLY.
UM, AND, AND LASTLY TO COUNCILMAN SHEEN'S POINT THAT THIS ISN'T GREEN ENERGY, UH, IT'S PULLING OFF THE GRID JUST, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
UM, SO, UH, IT'S UNCLEAR WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S COMMITMENT TO, TO BECOMING MORE GREEN.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S VERY LITTLE DATA ON THIS.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BIG FANS OF TRYING TO DO INNOVATIVE THINGS AND THE WORLD'S CHANGING, SO WE NEED TO ADAPT WITH IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S TAKE OUR TIME.
LET'S STUDY THIS, LET'S MAKE SURE WE CAN CONTAIN IT.
WE UNDERSTAND THE RISKS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THE, THE APPROPRIATE BENEFITS FOR THESE RISKS.
UM, AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION, GO TALK TO SOME OF THESE MUNICIPALITIES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRIES THAT HAVE INSTALLED THIS, UNDERSTAND THEIR EXPERIENCES.
AND ONCE WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION, THEN I THINK WE CAN MAKE AN, IN A MORE INFORMED DECISION.
BUT AT THIS POINT, I, I, I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS RUSHED AND IT'S IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST TO HOLD OFF.
I JUST ASK A, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, THE RISKS, YOU KNOW, WHICH WERE MENTIONED BY MR. SIMON, AND YOU KNOW, BY YOU, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THESE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS, WE USUALLY HIRE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT WHO GIVES US, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS.
IS THERE SOMETHING SIMILAR, UM, AN ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD BE INDEPENDENT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYONE WHO HAS AN INTEREST IN THIS WHO COULD GIVE US AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF THE ACTUAL, UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS AT SOME RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, THE LAST SPEAKER, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, HAD HIGHLIGHTED SOME CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT SAFETY.
YOU DID, WALTER DID, AND YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THERE'S SOME DUE ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE INSTEAD OF JUST CALLING A FIRE CHIEF, UM, THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
NOW, PAUL, ARE YOU ADDRESSING THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT,
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UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE APPLICANT OR, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE FINE BECAUSE I, I FEEL THAT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, UH, AN IMPORTANCE, YOU KNOW, ISSUE AND CONCERN THAT PEOPLE HAVE.AND IF WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SAFE.
WE, WE JUST CAN'T TAKE SOMEBODY'S WORD FOR IT.
SO CAN SOMEONE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT ADDRESS THE SUPERVISOR'S QUESTION? GEORGE? GEORGE, DID YOU WANNA HANDLE THAT? UH, SURE.
I, UH, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF POINTS THAT WERE MADE, AND I JUST WANT TO CORRECT, UH, A FEW OF THEM.
IT, IT WAS STATED, STATED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THESE UNITS ARE GOING TO BURN FOR 24 HOURS OR MORE, AND THERE'S BEEN EXTENSIVE TESTING DONE.
UH, UNDERWRITER LABS HAS A VERY WELL RECOGNIZED TESTING PROCEDURE, AND THE TESLA SYSTEMS HAVE UNDERGONE ALL THE TESTING FOR THE MOST RECENT EDITION OF IT.
AND IT'S BEEN FOUND IT ONLY BURNS FOR, FOR ABOUT THREE AND A HALF HOURS.
AND EACH, UH, ENCLOSURE, UH, IS CONTAINED.
IT, IT'S BEEN SHOWN IN THE TESTING THAT IT DOES NOT SPREAD TO THE ADJACENT ENCLOSURES.
SO THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF TESTING ON THIS, AND THEY HAVE FOUND THAT, UM, IT'S VERY SMALL RISK FOR THE FIRE TO START INTERNALLY ON ITS OWN.
IT'S MORE LIKELY FROM SOME TYPE OF A PHYSICAL IMPACT OR, UM, IT, IT WOULD REALLY REQUIRE A LOT OF, UM, SO SOMETHING OUT EXTRAORDINARY OUTTA THE ORDINARY TO GET THE FIRE GOING.
BUT EVEN IF IT DOES WITH ONE UNIT, IT DOESN'T SPREAD TO ADJACENT ONES AND IT WON'T LAST ANYWHERE NEAR 24 HOURS.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF, UH, THE APPLICANT OF THE TOWN BOARD WOULD WANT TO DO A, YOU KNOW, A INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF THE FIRE RISKS, YOU KNOW, AND HIRE SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PICK, UH, WOULD THE APPLICANT BE WILLING TO ABSORB THE COSTS SO WE COULD DO A, YOU KNOW, A THOROUGH, YOU KNOW, REVIEW AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND GET LIKE AN INDEPENDENT, SOMEBODY INDEPENDENT WHO DOESN'T HAVE ANY STAKE IN THE OUTCOME? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM AT ALL.
BECAUSE I, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, AS A FOLLOW UP STEP, WE, WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, UNDERTAKE WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE FIRE RATING BETWEEN THE UNITS? THEY, THEY FOUND THAT ALL THEY NEED IS A SIX INCH SEPARATION BETWEEN THE UNITS AND FIRE WILL NOT PROPAGATE BETWEEN THEM.
BUT HAVE THEY RATED THE SEPARATION NOW? TWO HOUR, FOUR HOUR? IF IT BURNS FOR THREE AND A HALF HOURS, I WOULD HOPE THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A TWO HOUR RATING.
AND IN THE PICTURE THAT WAS SHOWN TO US, UM, I THINK IT WAS FROM KOREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, THE FIRE WAS ACTUALLY COMING FROM A COM A, UH, COMPARTMENT THAT THE DOOR WAS OPEN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD THAT THAT FACILITY IS, BUT IT, IT, ARE THESE DOORS DESIGNED TO BLOW OUT TO RELIEVE THE PRESSURE OR ARE THEY DESIGNED TO, UH, WITHSTAND WHATEVER PRESSURE THERE IS FROM THE CONFLAGRATION? SO, SO THESE ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. THE ONES THAT YOU SEE IN, UM, ARIZONA, AND THE PICTURES THAT I SAW FROM, FROM, UH, CAREER, THEY ARE WALKING WALK-IN UNITS.
SO THEY ARE CONTAINERS, THESE ARE CABINETS.
SO, UH, THERE ARE DIFFERENT RULES FOR CABINETS AS COMPARED WITH CONTAINERS.
THESE, UM, CABINETS HAVE EXPLOSION CONTROL.
THEY HAVE DELE DEFLAGRATION PANELS ON THE TOP OF THE ENCLOSURES.
SO THEY'RE DESIGNED TO BOTH IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S GASES BUILDING UP, BURN THE GASES OFF INTERNALLY, AND THEN THERE ARE PANELS THAT WILL SAFELY ALLOW THE GUESTS TO ESCAPE UP TOP.
SO IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED WITH THE OTHER SYSTEMS. ARE THOSE BLOWOUT PANELS OR ARE THEY, ARE THEY PERMANENTLY IN PLACE, IN OTHER WORDS, DESIGNED TO RELEASE? THEY, YEAH.
SO THE TESLA SYSTEM, WHICH IS, HAS NOT HAD ANY FIRE SAFETY EVENTS.
THE ONE IN ARIZONA WAS LG CHEM.
I'M NOT SURE WHICH, WHAT THE ONES IN KOREA WERE.
UH, BUT THEY'RE DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY.
UM, THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH THE FULL SCALE FIRE TESTING, WHICH HAS SHOWN THAT A FIRE THAT IT WAS INTENTIONALLY STARTED WITHIN THE CONTAINER, IT COULD NOT SPREAD OUTTA THE CONTAINER.
UM, THEY ALSO HAVE THIS SPARKER SYSTEM
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THAT'S INTENDED TO, UH, PREMATURELY LIGHT OR IGNITE ANY KIND OF FLAMMABLE GAS THAT IS RELEASED, THAT THERE'S NOT A LARGER EXPLOSION EVENT.AND THEY HAVE THIS DEFLATION VENT ON THE ROOF SO THAT ANY, ANY GAS OR OVER PRESSURES DIRECTED UP AND AWAY FROM ANYONE ON THE GROUND.
UM, SO, SO REALLY, UM, QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT, UH, SAFETY MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE, UH, THAT, THAT DISTINGUISH THIS SYSTEM FROM OTHER, UH, SYSTEMS THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN THOSE PICTURES.
THANKS, MR. WE, WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
HOW ARE YOU THERE? THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
UH, JAMES JOHNSON, UH, CO-PRESIDENT OF THE MAYFAIR NORWOOD CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
UH, FIRST QUESTION I GUESS I HAVE IS THERE WAS A WALKTHROUGH SCHEDULED FOR LAST SATURDAY.
I GOT AN EMAIL STATING THAT IT WAS CANCELED.
DID IT ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE? 'CAUSE I WANTED TO GO AND SAW THE EMAIL AND FAILED TO ARRIVE DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT WAS CANCELED, WE CANCELED IT.
BUT THEN WE BASICALLY, THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO HAVE SOME PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE JUST IN CASE PEOPLE SHOWED UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY REALLY KNEW HOW TO REACH EVERYBODY WHO WAS, UM, TOLD ABOUT THE MEETING.
SO THE MEETING WAS OFFICIALLY CANCELED.
SO, UH, I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION BASED OFF THAT WOULD BE, UH, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SCHEDULE ANOTHER WALKTHROUGH MEETING TO SEE THE SITE CONDITIONS AND, UH, UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THE WORK THAT'S GONNA BE PUT IN PLACE? IS THAT POSSIBLE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
VERY WILLING TO MEET WITH, UH, RESIDENTS.
SO, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN ARRANGE THAT.
MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US, UM, SOME POSSIBLE, YOU COULD EMAIL US SOME POSSIBLE, UM, YOU KNOW, DATES THAT WORK FOR YOU AND THEN, UM, AND, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN WE COULD ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE.
SHOULD I TALK TO GARRETT IN REGARDS TO THAT? YEAH, GARRETT, MYSELF, UH, MS YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT WOULD, THAT WOULD MAKE, BE, MAKE SENSE.
I JUST FELT LIKE IT, UH, I MISSED OUT ON IT 'CAUSE IT WAS STATED THEN IT WAS CANCELED, BUT YET IT TOOK PLACE.
SO I FEEL, YOU KNOW, A PROPER WALKTHROUGH SHOULD TAKE PLACE.
THE SECOND THING IS, UH, I'M ALL FOR HELPING THE NOEL WOOD COUNTRY CLUB IF THIS IS GONNA HELP THEM SURVIVE.
BUT I DO FEEL THAT, UH, I AM NOT SEEING ANY BENEFIT TO THE TOWN OR THE RESIDENTS OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR ANYTHING, UH, IN THAT REGARDS, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT OF QUITE A LARGE SIZE, UH, CAN SOMEBODY ANSWER ME OR SHOW ME? 'CAUSE UH, FROM THE DIAGRAMS IT WAS VERY HARD TO SEE ON THE, UH, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE FACILITY THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE BUILDING NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT, THE ACTUAL PARAMETERS OF IT, HEIGHT WITH DIMENSIONS OF IT, SO TO SPEAK.
JOHN, CAN YOU BRIEFLY ANSWER THAT JUST REAL QUICK? THE FOOTPRINT ITSELF? YES.
THE, THE FOOTPRINT IS ACTUALLY UNDER 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE PARKING LOT ITSELF.
UH, THE DIMENSION IN THE LONG DIRECTION.
JUST GIVE ME A SECOND WHILE I PULL THIS ALL UP.
YEAH, IF YOU COULD BRING THAT UP JUST REAL QUICK.
THIS THE SITE PLAN, I'M DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.
IT, IT WAS TOO SMALL TO SEE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, SO I'M JUST NOT SURE THE CONCEPT OF THE SIZE, YOU KNOW.
WELL IT SITS ON THE OLD TENNIS COURTS DOWN IN THE PARKING LOT, HOST, UH, DISABLED TOUCH SCREEN SHARING.
IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN ENABLE THAT
SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 110 BY 175.
AND HOW HIGH IS IT, DO YOU KNOW? EACH OF THE CONTAINERS IS ABOUT EIGHT FEET TALL.
I GUESS, UH, MY LAST QUESTION IS THE POWER LINES THAT ARE RUNNING TO AND FROM THE UNITS, RIGHT? YOU'RE TALKED ABOUT GOING EITHER UNDERGROUND OR ABOVE GROUND.
UH, WHAT'S THE VOLTAGE ON THAT? IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LEAVING IT UNDERNEATH THE FENCE LINE, THAT'S A PRETTY LOW FOR ANY KINDA HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINE.
SO CAN YOU ANSWER ANY QUESTION ON THE VOLTAGE AT ANY GIVEN POINT THAT'LL BE RUNNING THROUGH THOSE LINES? JAMES, ARE YOU ABLE TO TAKE THIS? YEAH, IT'S, UH, 12 KV 12.
WHAT IS THAT? KILOVOLTS? KILOVOLTS.
NO, IT'S SIMILAR TO CON'S, DISTRIBUTION, VOLTAGE.
SO LIKE WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE IN AN ABOVE GROUND POWER LINE.
SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THEY'RE BELOW A FENCE LINE THOUGH, CORRECT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE WHAT, SIX, EIGHT FEET OFF THE GROUND OR I'M NOT CONCERNED.
NO, THEY, THEY WILL BE A HIGHER THAN THAT OFF THE GROUND.
SORRY, THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN A, A MISCOMMUNICATION.
I'M GONNA JUST SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN HERE AND
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SHOW YOU THE FENCE LINE THAT I WAS REFERRING TO.UH, THE FENCE LINE I WAS REFERRING TO IS THE DRIVING RANGE FENCE THAT'S, UH, SHOWN IN THIS PICTURE.
IT'S LOWER THAN THIS FENCE LINE.
'CAUSE IF PEOPLE HAD CONCERNS WITH TREES, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE COMING IN ON THIS SIDE OF THE FENCE LINE.
WE'D BE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN THIS AREA AND SNEAKING OUT AROUND BEHIND AND COMING DOWN THE, THE SITE, THE HILL, UH, AND CONNECTING INTO AN EXISTING TELEPHONE POLE SYSTEM RIGHT THERE.
AND THOSE FENCES ARE PROBABLY, WHAT, 30 OR 40 FEET TALL? CORRECT.
I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE.
UH, UH, AGAIN, I'M OPEN AND WILLING TO REALLY SEE A SITE VISIT.
UH, I'M OPEN TO THE IDEA OF THIS PROJECT.
I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT AGAINST IT.
THE OTHER ITEM WOULD BE, UH, ANY BENEFIT TO THE TOWN THAT COULD COME OF THIS, UH, WOULD BE A BENEFICIAL, SO, OKAY.
AND, AND GARY, BEFORE YOU GET TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, I JUST WANNA SAY TO EVERYBODY REALLY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THE TOWN BOARD IS CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A VOTE TONIGHT.
THERE'LL PROBABLY BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO ASK QUESTIONS AS WELL, AND MAYBE A SITE VISIT.
SO I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RUSHING THIS PROJECT ALONG, ALTHOUGH THERE IS A CERTAIN TIME SENSITIVITY TO IT.
UH, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO VOTE TONIGHT.
UH, I WANNA PICK UP ON, UH, SOME OF WHAT HUGH SCHWARTZ, UH, HAD TO SAY BECAUSE, UH, MY CONCERN AS A RESIDENT IS THE PRECEDENT, UH, THAT'S BEING SET HERE BY THE PROCESS THAT'S BEEN FOLLOWED.
UH, THE ISSUE FOR ME AS A HOMEOWNER IS, UH, THE IMPACT THAT THIS WOULD HAVE ON RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE ENTIRE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
UH, SPECIFICALLY THERE'S ABOUT 830 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN GREENBURG.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT WE'RE TOLD IS FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT TO ALLOW A PUBLIC UTILITY STRUCTURE, UH, TO BE LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE ENTIRE APPLICATION TURNS ON THE OPINION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DATED NOVEMBER 12TH OF THIS YEAR, THAT THIS PROJECT QUALIFIES AS A PUBLIC UTILITY STRUCTURE, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO SPECIAL PERMIT.
IF IT DOESN'T QUALIFY AS A PUBLIC UTILITY STRUCTURE, THEN IN ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO GO FORWARD, IT WOULD NEED A ZONE CHANGE OR A USE VARIANCE.
UH, REGARDLESS, YOU NEED TO KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE ABOUT THIS, THE NATURE OF THIS PROJECT BEFORE YOU COULD EVEN GRANT SUCH A CHANGE IN ZONING.
UH, HERE THOUGH, WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE OF, IS THIS A PUBLIC UTILITY STRUCTURE THAT IS FOR WHICH YOU CAN HAVE A SPECIAL PERMIT GRANTED IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT AND WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT? WELL, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE BASED ON THE ANALYSIS THAT THIS BUILDING INSPECTOR PROVIDED, IN HIS OPINION, DATED NOVEMBER 12TH, ANY APPLICATION FOR A SOLAR, UH, FARM, A WIND FARM, OR ANY OTHER OR BATTERY, UH, STORAGE FACILITY WOULD QUALIFY AS A PUBLIC UTILITY STRUCTURE.
THAT MEANS THAT ANYONE, YOU KNOW, COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE ANY HOMEOWNER COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE THIS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN THEIR MIXED, UH, AT ANY OF THE EXISTING GOLF CLUBS THAT HAVE NOT YET GONE UNDER OR ANY OTHER OPEN SPACE.
AS I SAID, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES A POTENTIAL 836 ACRES.
WHAT CAN WE DO? WELL, I MENTIONED THE DATE OF THE OPINION SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE UNDER TOWN LAW THAT OPINION HAS TO BE CHALLENGED.
AND THE ONLY CHALLENGE THAT YOU CAN MAKE IS TO THE ZONING BOARD.
SO WHILE I APPRECIATE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT THIS BE EXAMINED BY THE TOWN BOARD, THE TOWN BOARD IS NOT THE PROPER ENTITY TO BE CONSIDERING WHETHER THE BUILDING INSPECTOR WAS CORRECT UNDER OUR LAW AND THE LAW OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, THAT DECISION HAS TO BE APPEALED TO THE ZONING BOARD, AND WE ONLY HAVE 60 DAYS TO DO IT.
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CAN DO THIS? WELL, CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS CAN DO IT AT THEIR EXPENSE.BUT THE TOWN CODE, UH, AND THE TOWN LAW SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT ANY BOARD MEMBER CAN DO IT.
AND SO THE ONUS HERE IS ON THE TOWN BOARD RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THE PLANNING BOARD DIDN'T DO IT, THEY COULD HAVE REQUESTED THAT, UH, AN APPEAL TO THE ZONING BOARD TO BRING THIS MATTER TO THEM, BUT THEY DIDN'T.
BUT NOW, THE TOWN BOARD CAN, ANY ONE OF UTAH TOWN BOARD MEMBERS HAS UNTIL JANUARY 11TH, THAT'S THE 60TH DAY, JANUARY 11TH, TO APPEAL THIS DECISION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR TO THE TOWN TO ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO GET A RULING ON WHETHER A FACILITY LIKE THIS, WHICH NO ONE EVER THOUGHT OF WHEN THE ZONING CODE WAS CREATED.
A, A FACILITY LIKE THIS, QUALIFIES AS A PUBLIC UTILITY STRUCTURE.
THAT'S THE THRESHOLD ISSUE THAT MUST BE DETERMINED BEFORE YOU CAN CONSIDER THIS APPLICATION AT ALL.
IF THE ZONING BOARD SAYS THAT IT'S NOT A PUBLIC UTILITY STRUCTURE, AND BY THE WAY, I THINK THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT IT WILL FIND THAT IT'S NOT.
THE REASON IS THAT IN THE TOWN'S DEFINITION OF PUBLIC UTILITY STRUCTURES, IT EXCLUDES STORAGE YARDS.
AND IN THE OPINION OF THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT THAT'S PART OF THIS APPLICATION, SHE SAYS THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING HERE WITH A BATTERY FACILITY IS A STORAGE FACILITY.
SO BY HER, BY THE ATTORNEY'S OWN ADMISSION IN THAT THAT'S PART OF THIS APPLICATION, THEY'RE ADMITTING THAT THE STRUCTURE THAT THEY WANNA BUILD IS NOT A PUBLIC UTILITY STRUCTURE THAT THE TOWN'S BUILDING INSPECTOR SAYS YOU CAN BUILD PURSUANT TO SPECIAL PERMIT.
HE'S FLAT WRONG, BUT NOBODY'S CHALLENGED THAT.
AND THAT CHALLENGE HAS TO TAKE PLACE.
AS I SAID, ANY CITIZEN CAN DO IT.
UH, IF THEY LIVE IN THE AREA, ANY CIVIC ASSOCIATION CAN DO IT.
BUT WHY PUT THE PUBLIC TO THE COST AND THE BURDEN OF DOING IT WHEN OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO HAVE THIS APPLICATION BEFORE IT AND HAVE THE PLANNING BOARD'S ANALYSIS, WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WHAT I'M SAYING, EXCEPT I'M GIVING YOU THE LAW BEHIND IT.
WHY NOT HAVE ANY ONE OF YOU GO AND MAKE THE REQUEST HERE AND NOW FILE THAT APPEAL TO THE PLANT, TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS SO WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD ON WHETHER THIS APPLICATION IN FACT QUALIFIES AS A PUBLIC UTILITY STRUCTURE, WHICH ENTITLES THEM TO REQUEST A SPECIAL PERMIT.
THAT'S JUST ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, AND I, I THINK WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER AND THE TOWN BOARD COULD ACTUALLY DISCUSS YOUR, YOUR, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, NEXT TUESDAY AT THE WORK SESSION.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, UH, LEGITIMATE, UH, YOU KNOW, REQUEST AND I THINK IT DESERVES DISCUSSION BY THE TOWN BOARD.
SO WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR TUESDAY.
I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF THERE, SUPERVISOR.
UH, PAUL FIORIS, THE NEXT SPEAKER.
THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UH, PAUL, THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATIONS.
UM, AND, UH, VOICING IT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE, THE LONG-TERM VIABILITY OF NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR 25 YEARS.
UM, I'M PART OF THIS, THE NORWOOD MAYFAIR ACRES.
I'M OFF OF NORWOOD ROAD, AND, UM, I WOULD CERTAINLY LOVE TO SEE THE COUNTRY CLUB SUSTAIN AND BE AROUND, UH, FOR AS LONG AS I'M AROUND, UM, AS LONG AS I LIVE HERE.
HOWEVER, UM, THE, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY MR. BOSCO DON'T GIVE, I THINK ANY OF US, UM, ASSUREDNESS OF THAT.
UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EQUIVALENT OF 10 MEMBERSHIPS.
UM, YOU, HE MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ATTRITION OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME OF ABOUT 50%.
UM, AND THE, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE, WERE MADE, UH, BY MR. SCHWARTZ OF OPENING PANDORA'S BOX, UM, IF NOAH DOES NOT, DOES NOT SUCCESSFULLY SURVIVE AND THRIVE, UM, THEN WE'RE STUCK WITH, UM, THE STORAGE FACILITY.
UM, I I ALSO RESENT THE APPLICANT'S, UM, STATEMENTS EARLY ON THAT KEPT REFERRING TO RENEWABLE ENERGY.
UM, I HAVE, UM, SOLAR ON THE ROOF OF MY HOME AND, UM, THEIR SOLAR SHINGLES FROM DOW, THEY WORK GREAT.
THEY, THEY, UH, GENERATE ABOUT
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50% OF THE ENERGY I CONSUME.THEY DO FEED BACK TO THE GRID THAT'S RENEWABLE.
UM, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS STORAGE.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS THIS BY THEIR HOME, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE KNOW OR WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE RISKS.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANNA SAY THE RISKS ARE LOW, THAT'S GREAT, BUT, UM, YOU CAN ONLY SAY THAT IN MY OPINION, IF YOU WANNA PUT IT NEXT TO YOUR HOME.
UM, SO IF THERE IS NO REAL BENEFIT OF, OF HELPING NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUBS SURVIVE IN THE LONG TERM, AND I SEE NO EVIDENCE OF THAT WITH, WITH ABOUT 5% OF YOUR MEMBERSHIP DUES BEING COLLECTED FROM, FROM WHAT MR. BASCO HAD SAID, UM, I SEE NO BENEFIT OF THIS TO THE COMMUNITY WHATSOEVER.
UM, I, I'D RATHER, UH, LOOK AT THINGS TO HELP NORWOOD DRIVE MEMBERSHIP, UM, UP, UH, YOU'RE IN THE, YOU'RE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AS OPPOSED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO USE SOME LOOPHOLE TO PUT SOME STORAGE FACILITY.
CERTAINLY NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT IF, IF NO WOOD STAYS, BUT IF NO WOOD GOES INEVITABLY, THEN WE HAVE A MUCH, MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM ON OUR HANDS, UM, THAT I DON'T THINK ANY RESIDENT WANTS.
UH, AM I UNMUTED? YES, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, THANK YOU.
YOU, UM, I'M, I'M CALLING, UH, I'M ON THE CALL FOR TWO.
I'M, I'M NOT ONLY A NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
UH, I'M A BOARD MEMBER, BUT I'M ALSO A, UH, GREENBERG RESIDENT.
AND, UM, JUST TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT RICHIE SAID EARLIER, WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO STAY OPEN.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS NEXT WEEK.
WE ARE GONNA BE SIGNING AN AGREEMENT FOR SOMEBODY TO BASICALLY LEASE OUR CLUB AS A COUNTRY CLUB, AND THEY ARE GONNA INVEST $4 MILLION OF CAPITAL OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS INTO THE FACILITY TO INCREASE MEMBERSHIP AND, AND DO THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO.
AND BIG PART OF THAT PLAN IS HAVING THIS STORAGE FACILITY THERE TO HELP, HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS WHILE THEY, THEY GROW THE MEMBERSHIP.
SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A PACKAGE DEAL TO MAKE EVERYTHING WORK.
SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE SIGNING THE, IF YOU'RE SIGNING AN AGREEMENT NOW, UM, IS IT CONDITIONAL ON, UH, THIS APPROVAL? AND IF THE TOWN BOARD WOULD SAY NO, YOU KNOW, TO THE APPLICATION, WOULD THEY BACK AWAY FROM THE SIGNED AGREEMENT IF YOU'RE SIGNING IT NEXT WEEK? NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BACK AWAY WITH IT.
BUT THIS IS GONNA BE NEEDED FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE A BIG PART OF, OF, OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, TO DO WITH THE CLUB.
I MEAN, THEY'RE INCORPORATING, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT YEAR THAT THIS WILL GET APPROVED AND THAT THEY'LL START GETTING SOME REVENUE FROM IT.
'CAUSE THE REVENUE IS GONNA GO TO THEM AT THIS POINT TO OPERATE THE CLUB.
IS THERE ANY REPRESENTATIONS BEING MADE TO THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAPPEN? UH, YOU KNOW, AND ARE THEY AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING LIKE TONIGHT? OR THEY HAVE, I'M SORRY.
I I, WE HAVE KEPT THEM COMPLETELY APPRISED OF ALL THIS, AND SO HAS, UH, JAMES AND, AND, AND, AND THE OTHER PEOPLE FROM STRATUS.
SO THIS ISN'T, UM, THEY'RE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT'S, WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
SO, BUT AS, AS A RESIDENT OF GREENBURG, I, I MEAN, I'M ACTUALLY, I'M JUST A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE I TONIGHT AREN'T SUPPORTIVE.
I ACTUALLY HAD, I BUILT MY HOUSE 15, 16 YEARS AGO WHEN GREENBERG HAD NEW HOMES BEING, UH, ENERGY STAR COMPLIANT.
I HAD THE FIRST ENERGY STAR HOME IN GREENBERG, AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IF I FILED MY DRAWINGS TWO DAYS BEFORE I DID.
SO, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG IS ALWAYS TRYING TO BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, TO HEAR SOME OF THE NEGATIVITY ABOUT THIS THING AND WHERE THESE BATTERIES ARE GONNA GO.
I KNOW IT'S IN A ZONED RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT IT'S IN THE MOST OBSCURE PLACE IT COULD BE AS FAR AS ANY RESIDENTS GO.
AND I ALSO HAVE HEARD COMMENTS TONIGHT THAT, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE THE WORST THING IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO BUILD HOUSES THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE REALIZE THE IMPACT IT PUTS ON YOUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AND OTHER THINGS, THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS A BENEFIT TO THE TOWN TO EXPAND.
I THINK OPEN SPACE IS IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF OUR TOWNS, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GREENBERG AND I DON'T THINK WE WANNA LOSE ANY MORE OPEN SPACE.
WHAT, WHAT I BASICALLY HEARD WAS MORE, NOT THAT PEOPLE ARE NECESSARILY AGAINST IT, BUT THAT PEOPLE, UH, THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONCERNS ARE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE RUSHING IT.
AND, UH, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN'S DOING, UH, THE DUE DILIGENCE.
SO PEOPLE ARE RAISING ISSUES AND THEY WANNA MAKE, THE WAY I, WHAT I'M TAKING OUT OF THIS IS THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE DO GO AHEAD AND SAY YES, THAT WE'VE REALLY THOROUGHLY, UM,
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ANALYZED ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, ALL THE RISKS AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE.WELL, I, AND I, AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND, AND EVEN WHEN I SEE SOMEBODY DO A POWERPORT PRESENTATION COMPARING IT, YOU KNOW, THESE EXPLODING BATTERIES, WELL, IF IT'S NOT THE SAME TYPE OF BATTERY, I THINK IT'S, IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A FAIR COMPARISON.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE, THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT FOR WHAT IT IS NOT WHAT, WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE DID WRONG OR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BATTERY.
SO I, I THINK IT REALLY SHOULD BE EVALUATED ON ITS OWN, NOT COMPARED TO SOME OTHER TYPE OF SYSTEM.
WHAT'S THE TERM OF THE LEASE? THE TERM OF THE LEASE IS, IT'S A FIVE YEAR LEASE WITH, UH, WITH AN OPTION TO BUY AFTER THEY PUT 4 MILLION IN IT, AND THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE COUNTRY, MAINTAIN IT AS A COUNTRY CLUB FOR A MINIMUM OF 10 YEARS AFTER THE PURCHASE.
AND HOW IS, HOW ARE TAXES GOING TO BE, UM, PAID? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU, SOMEBODY'S GONNA OWN THE PROPERTY, THEY MAY BE LEASING.
UH, WELL, YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE LEASES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TAXES THEY'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR, FOR ALL THAT.
THE, THE, THE LEASING COMPANY, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE OPERATION OF THE CLUB.
AND NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB PAYS A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN TAXES EVERY YEAR.
UH, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE MORE WITH THIS FACILITY THERE, OBVIOUSLY.
WELL, THAT'S UP TO WHATEVER THE INCREASE WOULD BE, WOULD BE ON STRATUS.
IT'S A TRIPLE NET LEASE WITH THEM.
AND I ALSO HEARD SOMEBODY SAYING THAT THERE'S NO JOBS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
WELL, THERE'S OVER 80 JOBS ASSOCIATED WITH NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
SO IF NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB WERE TO CLOSE, THERE WOULD BE 80 PLUS JOBS THAT WOULD NOT NO LONGER EXIST.
SO WE, WE STILL HAVE A RATHER LENGTHY LIST, SO LET'S KEEP GOING.
I'M NOT ONLY THE, I'M NOT ONLY THE PRESIDENT OF NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB, I'M PROBABLY THE PERSON THAT LIVES CLOSEST TO THIS BATTERY PACK.
'CAUSE I LIVE ON THE SIXTH HOLE AT NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
SO JUST, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SAY, I'M NOT ONLY THE OWNER, I'M A CLIENT
I, HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
I'M A, I'M A, UH, 25 YEAR GREENBERG RESIDENT.
I LIVE UP THE STREET ON OXFORD ROAD.
I WAS PREVIOUSLY A MEMBER OF NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB, BUT, UH, THINGS IN MY LIFE HAVE CHANGED.
AND, UH, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THAT OPEN SPACE THAT'S THERE.
AND I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO GET ON THIS CALL TONIGHT, AND I'M A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK BY SOME OF THE NEGATIVITY AS WELL.
BUT I DO AGREE THAT YOU NEED TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE AROUND THIS PROJECT.
AND I HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING OUT WITH THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
SO IF THEY'RE PRIORITIZED CORRECTLY AND THEY'RE LOOKED AT, I THINK YOU'LL SEE THE ADVANTAGES OF THIS.
I MEAN, EARLIER TONIGHT I HEARD PAUL SAY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AND TAXES FOR HOME, YOU KNOW, FOR HOMEOWNERS IN, IN GREENBURG COMING UP FLAT TO A LITTLE BIT UP.
COVID HAS A BIG EFFECT ON THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.
THESE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT EXIST IN GREENBURG ARE GONNA GO EMPTY.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF SPACE THAT'S GONNA GO TO, YOU KNOW, IN, INTO, YOU KNOW, EMPTY POSSIBLY.
AND PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA PAY THEIR TAXES.
SO HIS HAS A SOMEONE WHO PAYS TAXES.
I'M LOOKING THIS AS A PLUS INTO GREENBURG.
IF YOU DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND YOU CHECK IT, THE ZONING AND PLANNING BOARD MUST GET INVOLVED.
I KNOW THE SPOT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I DRIVE BY THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY.
YOU CAN'T SEE IT FROM THE ROAD.
THERE'S MORE NOISE FROM TRUCKS GOING UP AND DOWN.
NO WOOD ROAD THAT YOU WOULD GET FROM THOSE, FROM THE BATTERIES THAT ARE STORED THERE.
TRUST ME, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT UNLESS YOU'RE A MEMBER OF NORWOOD DRIVING IN THERE.
AND I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT AGAINST IT.
UM, HEARING FROM MR. GRETA AND MR. BOSCO TONIGHT AROUND THE PLANS TO KEEP NORWOOD AFLOAT, MEMBERSHIP'S BEEN DIFFICULT.
I THINK THEY'RE BEING TOTALLY FORWARD LOOKING.
AND THAT'S THE SAME WAY I THINK PEOPLE NEED IN GREENBURG NEED TO LOOK AT THIS.
THEY'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO KEEP JOBS AT MILLWOOD, BRING JOBS IN WHEN THEY BUILD IT, AND JUST BE FORWARD LOOKING.
LISTEN, TESLA STARTED THIS A LONG TIME AGO.
THEY PROBABLY LOOKED AT ELON MUSK AND SAID, HEY, NO, THIS, THIS CAN'T WORK.
LISTEN GUY'S, A MULTI-BILLIONAIRE NOW, BE FORWARD LOOKING.
'CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE COMING TO ME IN ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR YEARS BECAUSE BUSINESSES ARE LEAVING WEST, UH, GREENBURG AND ASK ME FOR MORE TAXES, I'LL BE SELLING MY HOUSE AND GETTING OUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE A WASTELAND AFTER A WHILE.
'CAUSE NEW YORK STATE IS NOT THE EASIEST PLACE TO LIVE.
I THINK EVERYONE ON HIS BOARD, KEEPING COSTS DOWN AND LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE AND BEING UNDERSTANDING TO WHAT THEY NEED, IT'S A GREAT THING.
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GREENBERG, BUT AGAIN, DO THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT YOU NEED TO DO.UH, ONE LAST POINT, INDIAN POINT WHEN IN MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, THEY'RE PULLING OUT, YOU THINK THE PEOPLE IN INDIAN POINT WERE HAPPY, THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA, BUT THEY HAD A PLAN TO GET RID OF IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE DECOMMISSION BOND AND THINGS, THOSE ARE ALL IMPORTANT THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO PUT IN PLACE FOR THAT.
AND THE FIRE SAFETY PART OF IT.
AND I, AND I HOPE, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT OR DO ANYTHING, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE MEETINGS.
'CAUSE I THINK MORE PEOPLE NEED TO GET INVOLVED AND HEAR THEIR OPINION, UH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THIS POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE.
BUT I, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START TONIGHT AND A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT CAN BE TABLED AND BE WORKED ON.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE, TO THE FUTURE MEETINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF TONY DELILAH'S STILL ON, UM, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR NAME AS I WAS LOOKING AROUND, BUT IF YOU'RE HERE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, UH, SPEAK, UH, IF NOT, UH, UH, GARRETT, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION AS A FOLLOW UP TO BOB BERNSTEIN'S, UM, YOU KNOW, QUESTION, UH, URGING US, YOU KNOW, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE APPEAL, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, THE ZONING BOARD.
WHAT'S THE TIME PERIOD IF THE BOARD WOULD DO THAT THERE? HOW, HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, MONTHS DELAY DOES THAT GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING, IF, IF THE BOARD WOULD WANNA DO THAT AS PART OF, AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME DO ADDITIONAL, UM, REVIEWS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TYPICALLY, UH, APPEALS TO THE ZONING BOARD? I WOULD SAY NO SOONER THAN THREE MEETINGS ARE THREE MONTHS.
AND, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE UP TO SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.
SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE THREE TO EIGHT MONTH RANGE, I WOULD IMAGINE.
BECAUSE, UH, MY, YOU KNOW, MY FAILING IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH OTHER APPLICATION APPLICATIONS IN THE PAST WERE YOU, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS LACK OF TRUST AND, YOU KNOW, PROCESS ISSUES.
SO I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN APPLICATION THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, CON CONCERNS ABOUT, AND IF WE SHOW PEOPLE THAT WE'RE LISTENING AND WE'RE BEING VERY THOROUGH AND BEING VERY CAREFUL, I HAVE A FEELING THAT IN THE LONG RUN, IT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WILL AVOID SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONTROVERSIES BECAUSE NOBODY COULD QUESTION, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS, IF WE TRY RUSHING IT, IT'S, THERE'S GONNA BE JUST LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST WILL TAKE ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A, A MUCH HARDER APPLICATION.
THAT'S JUST MY OWN GUT, YOU KNOW, GUT FAILING, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THIS, UH, MEETING.
WELL, I, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE, THE TIME SENSITIVITY OF THIS PROJECT? AND, AND CAN IT SURVIVE, YOU KNOW, FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE, AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT HAS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, USUALLY THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS HAVE A CERTAIN TIME COMPONENT WOULD THAT WORK WITH FOR THE APPLICANT? BUT IF, IF, IF THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT FIRE RISKS AND SAFETY ISSUES, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
THAT'S REALLY THE, THE CONCERN.
YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD SAY TO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY THOROUGHLY ANALYZED THE FIRE RISKS AND WE HAD INDEPENDENT REVIEW, AND WE AT THE END OF THE DAY FEEL THAT THE FIRE RISKS ARE REALLY MINIMAL, AND THEN THE BOARD GOES THROUGH IT, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WE DID OUR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE THAT WE'RE BEING RESPONSIBLE, RESPONSIVE TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE TIMETABLE FOR ME IS MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SAFE.
YOU KNOW, I, I WANT THE COUNTRY CLUB TO SURVIVE.
I DON'T WANNA SEE HOMES THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY VERY OPEN-MINDED ON THIS.
I, I MEAN, IF, IF, IF I KNEW THAT THIS COULD SAVE THE COUNTRY CLUB AND NOBODY'S PROPERTY ISN'T, OR, UH, NOBODY'S LIFE IS IN DANGER, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, YOU COULD BE REALLY POSITIVE, BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA RISK PEOPLE OR PROPERTY.
I THINK TIM DID POSE A GOOD QUESTION.
AND, UH, IS TIME SENSITIVITY AN ISSUE FOR THEM? UH, SUPERVISOR LENO, LENO SCHREDER HERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE APPLICANT, AND I KNOW JAMES, UH, COULD, COULD ALSO SPEAK TO THIS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, UH, WERE ANTICIPATING DOING WAS NYSERDA HAS, UH, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONIES AVAILABLE FOR THESE TYPES OF BATTERY, UH, ENERGY STORAGE PROJECTS.
ACTUALLY, IT'S PART OF THE, THE STATE'S INITIATIVE TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
AND AS OF THIS YEAR, THERE WAS ROUGHLY ABOUT 147 MILLION, UH, DOLLARS THAT WERE PUT
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ASIDE FOR THESE TYPES OF ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. I BELIEVE WHAT'S LEFT THIS YEAR, AND I GUESS JAMES COULD SPEAK MORE TO THIS, BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S ABOUT 47 MILLION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TAP.AND THAT'S WHAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, AGAIN, WHEN, WHEN I SAY RUSH, WE, WE APP, WE APPLIED BACK, UH, IN, IN SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE, AND MAYBE EVEN PRIOR TO THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I TAKE A LITTLE EXCEPTION TO TO SAYING THAT THIS HAS BEEN RUSHED WHEN WE'VE HAD THREE PLAN BOARD MEETINGS, C A C A SITE VISIT, UH, ANOTHER SCHEDULED SITE VISIT THAT WAS CANCELED BECAUSE OF WEATHER.
SO TO SAY THAT WE'RE RUSHING THIS AGAIN, I, I, I TAKE EXCEPTION TO THAT.
SO, UH, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT, I, I, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JAMES ON THE, ON THE, UH, INCENTIVE PORTION OF THIS FOR NI NYSERDA.
UM, SO THE, THE ISSUE WITH THE MOST, THE MOST CRITICAL TIMING ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE NYSERDA INCENTIVE STEPS DOWN, UH, PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY ON JANUARY 1ST, 2021.
SO WE WOULD RECEIVE LESS FUNDING IF WE APPLY IN 2021 THAN IN 2020.
AND THAT DOES HAVE A, A MATERIAL EFFECT ON THE ECONOMICS OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE QUALIFICATION FOR APPLYING FOR THE NYSERDA INCENTIVE IS THAT A NEGATIVE DECLARATION BE ISSUED AND, UH, IT, IT IS NOT THAT A SPECIAL YOUTH PERMIT BE ISSUED.
SO THE, THE HOPE WHEN WE ENTERED THIS PROCESS BACK IN SEPTEMBER IS THAT, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT NEGATIVE DECLARATION BY SHOWING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WERE, UM, NOT, NOT GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT, BUT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT ITSELF WOULD, WOULD LIKELY CARRY ON INTO 2021.
UH, AND, AND THAT'S STILL WHERE WE, WHERE WE SIT TODAY.
UM, OBVIOUSLY TIME IS, IS, IS WINDING DOWN IN 2020 AND, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE APPROACHING THAT DEADLINE, BUT, UM, IT, IT'S REALLY THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND, AND OUR ABILITY TO GET IT IN 2020, THAT, THAT WOULD CONTINUE, KEEP, KEEP THIS PROJECT, UH, FINANCIALLY VIABLE.
UH, THERE'S A FEW MORE SPEAKERS.
IS A BETSY MCCORMICK ON? DIDN'T SEE THAT NAME EITHER, BUT I GOT AN EMAIL, UM, INDICATING SHE WANTED SPEAK.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I WAS LOOKING, LOOKING AT THIS THIS EVENING THAT I WANTED TO THINK EVERYONE TO THINK ABOUT IS SOMETHING I PICKED UP FROM THE MASTER PLAN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND ON PAGE 12 ONE, IT SAYS, CHAPTER 12 CONFIRMS THE NEED TO EVALUATE DEVELOPMENT IN RELATIONSHIP TO INDICATED PLANNED USE AND THE IMPACTS OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
AND THE INDICATED PLANNED USE HERE WAS RESIDENTIAL.
AND I, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT OUT EARLIER WAS THE IMPACT IN TERMS OF THERE'D BE NO BUFFERS WHEN SOMEONE CAME BACK LATER ON.
THE OTHER THING I THINK I REALLY WANNA REALLY STRESS IS THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT JUST THIS LITTLE HALF ACRE PROJECT.
IF IN FACT, THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT OVER 800 ACRES IN THIS TOWN.
800 ACRES THAT HAVE TREMENDOUS VALUE BECAUSE THEY'RE SOUTH OF 2 87, AN EASY COMMUTE DISTANCE OF THE CITY.
UM, THE GOLF CLUBS ARE ZONED, THE LEAST SMALLEST ZONING ON THE GOLF CLUBS IS R 20.
MOST OF THE LAND ON THE GOLF CLUBS IS R 30.
THE KIND OF HOME THAT GETS BUILT ON AN R 30 LOT IS ONE I ALMOST, EVEN IF THE KIDS GO TO SCHOOL IN DISTRICT, WE'RE COMING OUT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A NET PROFIT.
AND ONCE THE KIDS ARE OUTTA SCHOOL, IT'S A PROFITABLE, VERY PROFITABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND CERTAINLY IF A GOLF COURT CLUB WAS BUILT OUT, IT'S GONNA COLLECT A LOT MORE TAXES THAN AS A GOLF CLUB.
THE BIGGEST THING I'D LIKE EVERYONE TO DO TONIGHT IS GOING BACK TO SOMETHING, ONE OF THE FIRST SPEAKERS TONIGHT, I THINK HIS NAME WAS MR. BAIL.
MR. BA SAID, WELL, I WOULDN'T MIND HOUSES, HOUSES.
WELL, I HAVE TO OPINE SOMETHING THAT MAY SHOCK YOU.
I DON'T THINK THAT HOUSES ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY BAD WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPEN SPACE ON A GOLF COURSE.
FIRST OFF, THAT SPACE ISN'T OPEN FOR ANYONE EXCEPT THE MEMBERS TO ACCESS ENVIRONMENTALLY.
THE AVERAGE WELL-DEVELOPED, R 30 NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A GREAT DEAL OF TREES AND OTHER PLANTS PLANTED THERE, WHICH ENVIRONMENTALLY TAKE CARBON DIOXIDE OUT OF THE, UM, ATMOSPHERE.
QUITE TRUTHFULLY, I SUSPECT IF WE REALLY HAD THE ABILITY TO RUN THE NUMBERS THAT AN R 30 BUILT OUT NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD PROBABLY BE ENVIRONMENTALLY BETTER
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THAN A GOLF COURSE.UM, I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO RETHINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OPEN SPACE.
YOU KNOW, A GOLF COURSE IS NOT THE GMAN ESCAPE THAT WAS HEAVILY WOODED AND WAS A VERY DIFFERENT IN SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS THAT WE, WHERE WE BOUGHT LAND.
THIS IS LAND THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE DECISION WE MAKE IS GOING TO IMPACT ALL 800 PLUS ACRES, AND IS THIS WHAT WE REALLY WANT COMING INTO OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS? THANK YOU.
YEAH, I I JUST HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE COMPANY, UH, THAT IS LOOKING AT, UH, YOU KNOW, LEASING, UH, HAS ANY OPTIONS TO, UM, TO BUY THE PROPERTY, IF THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT, ANY ANSWERS? OH, JAMES, SORRY.
ARE ARE, ARE YOU REFERRING TO, UH, EAGLE LEASING FROM, UH, THE COUNTRY CLUB? NO, THERE'S NO OPTION FOR US TO BUY THAT, THAT LAND.
IT'S A LEASE, RIGHT? THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TO BUY IF FROM THE COUNTRY CLUB? NO, NO.
UH, I THINK I HEARD, UH, MS. TORI MENTIONED THAT THE ACREAGE OF NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB IS ONLY BENEFICIAL TO THE MEMBERSHIP.
WE HAVE OVER 100 HOMES ON THE PROPERTY OF NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
AND IF YOU LIVED ON NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB LIKE I DO, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB BECAME A PUBLIC PARK DURING COVID THIS YEAR.
PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE WALKING THEIR DOGS, UM, JUST WALKING THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE.
UM, SO TO SAY THAT IT'S ONLY BENEFICIAL FOR THE MEMBERS IS MISTAKEN.
MIKE SIEGEL? YEAH, MIKE SIEGEL.
I AM, UM, VICE CHAIR OF THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY, UH, COUNCIL UNDER THE TOWN CODE.
UH, WE ARE MANDATED TO ADVISE THE TOWN BOARD AND OTHER BOARDS OF THE TOWN ON THE ENVIRONMENT, UH, AS IT AFFECTS THE TOWN AND ITS RESIDENTS.
UM, THIS IS NOT ABOUT, FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL POINT OF VIEW, THIS IS NOT ABOUT 1.6 ACRES AT THIS PARTICULAR GOLF CLUB ONLY IT IS ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT'S IN TABLE 7.8 ON PAGE SEVEN DASH 22 LISTS OVER 800 ACRES OF REC PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES WITH OPEN SPACE.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A PRECEDENT IN THE TOWN THAT ALLOWS FACILITIES SUCH AS THIS TO BE CITED HERE.
NOW THERE'S A CAC C'S NOT GETTING INTO THE ISSUE.
UH, AND IF THE TOWN IT, IT MAY, IT ALL BE, MAY BE MOOT IF THE TOWN BOARD, UM, UH, SENDS THIS TO THE ZONING BOARD AND THE ZONING BOARD DECIDES OTHERWISE.
BUT ASSUMING THE, UH, TOWN BOARD EITHER DOESN'T SEND IT OR THE Z B A DOES NOT DECIDE OTHERWISE, THEN IT IS VERY RELEVANT.
WHAT YOU DO HERE CREATES A PRECEDENT.
'CAUSE AS EVERYONE KNOWS, YOU CANNOT BE DISCRIMINATORY IN ZONING.
AND ONCE THIS IS ALLOWED, YOU HAVE OPENED UP 800 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE THAT WILL POTENTIALLY BECOME AVAILABLE.
AND A COUPLE OF THESE CLUBS HAVE ALREADY SELLING LAND.
AND IT IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF NOT PRACTICAL TO THINK THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN.
UNFORTUNATELY, FOR OTHER CLUBS IN THE FUTURE, YOU OPEN UP 800 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE TO STIRRING BA STIRRING ENERGY AND BATTERIES TO WIND TURBINES, TO SOLAR FARMS, TO TRASH TO ENERGY FACILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THIS IS A BIG ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE FOR THE TOWN.
SECONDLY, WITH REGARD TO JUST THIS ONE PROPERTY, UM, SE L REQUIRES, THIS IS SUBJECT TO SE QL, OF COURSE, IT'S NEW YORK STATE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT, UM, REQUIRES THE TOWN BOARD TO TAKE A HARD LOOK.
BUT THE HARD LOOK IS ONLY A PROCEDURE REQUIREMENT.
IT IS NOT THE SUBSTANTIVE ANSWER.
ONCE THE TOWN BOARD TAKES A HARD LOOK, IT HAS TO MAKE A DECISION.
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NOW, THE LEGISLATURE DIDN'T SAY, IS IT MORE LIKELY THAN NOT THIS WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE INFA IMPACT UPON THE ENVIRONMENT? WHAT THE LEGISLATURE SAID IS, IF IT MAY, AND PLEASE REMEMBER THE WORD MAY HAVE AT LEAST AND ONLY ONE SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, YOU HAVE TO REQUIRE AN E I S.ON THE OTHER HAND, THE LEGISLATURE SAID, IF YOU CAN DETERMINE, AND THESE ARE THE MAGIC WORDS, THERE WILL BE NO, THERE WILL BE NO SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, THEN THERE'S NO E I SS.
SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE A HARD LOOK.
THAT'S THE PROCEDURE REQUIREMENT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE A WRITTEN REQUIRED TO BE A WRITTEN RECENT ELABORATION BY STATUTE AS TO WHETHER, NOT WHETHER IT'S MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, BUT WHETHER THERE MAY BE ONE.
IN WHICH CASE THERE MUST BE AN E I SS.
AND IT'S ONLY IF YOU CAN DETERMINE THERE WILL BE NO, THAT YOU DO NOT REQUIRE AN E I S.
NOW, I THINK THE C A C WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT TO THE TOWN BOARD, BUT YOU AS LEAD AGENCY, WE WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND HOW IN THE WORLD THE TOWN BOARD COULD CONCLUDE BASED ON WHAT HAS BEEN REPORTED TO THEM BY THE C A C AND BY THE TOWN BOARD, AND I'M SORRY, AND BY THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH IS SAID THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS HERE.
THE PLANNING BOARD SAID, AFTER RECEIVING THE C A C REPORT AND HAVING A HEARING WITH THE APPLICANT, SAID, THERE ARE SIMPLY TOO MANY UNKNOWNS TO ISSUE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
NOW I I C A C AND SUBMITS TO THE TOWN BOARD, THAT WE WOULD FIND IT SURPRISING THAT YOU COULD CONCLUDE ON WHAT IS IN THE RECORD AND REPORTED TO YOU BY TWO BOARDS.
AND FROM WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM INTELLIGENT RESIDENTS, THAT THERE WILL BE NO, AND THAT THEREFORE MEANS THERE MUST BE AN E I S.
AND FINALLY, UH, THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT THE PROFITS OF THE APPLICANT.
JUST WOULD REMIND, I THINK EVERYONE ON THE TOWN BOARD, AND I KNOW THE PLANNING BOARD KNOWS THAT THE LEGISLATURE SAID AND ADOPTING SE IT WAS THE LEGISLATURE'S INTENTION THAT ALL AGENCIES CONDUCT THEIR AFFAIRS WITH AN AWARENESS THAT THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.
THERE AIN'T NO PLACE IN SEQUEL THAT IT SAYS, AND BY THE WAY, YOU BE BETTER CONSIDER HOW MUCH THE APPLICANT'S GONNA MAKE TOO.
SO YOUR FOCUS AS LEAD AGENCY IS ENVIRONMENTAL.
IT'S BINDING ON ALL AGENCIES OF THE TOWN OF THE STATE.
AND AT THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, THE C A C AIN'T SAYING WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WE THINK IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESS.
AND THAT WOULD BE AN E I S AND WE PICKING UP FINALLY, IF I COULD, UM, MR. TOWN HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS OR 20 MORE SECONDS PICKING UP ON WHAT, UH, SUPERVISOR ER SAID EARLIER.
YES, OF COURSE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME EXPERTISE PROVIDED TO THE TOWN, UH, TO ASSIST US, UH, IN THE E I S PROCESS.
UH, WE WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD WHO HAS SUBSTANTIAL EXPERTISE IN THIS AND THE C A C, WHICH HAS MAYBE A LITTLE EXPERTISE IN THIS, WOULD BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSULT WITH CD C ABOUT WHO WOULD BE THE PROPER EXPERT SELECTED.
UH, HUGH SCHWARTZ SAID THE KEYWORDS THIS EVENING, ARE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE SITES? AND THE ANSWER IS YES.
THERE ARE MANY ALTERNATIVE SITES WITH NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT DAMAGE THAT THIS SITE WOULD CAUSE.
THERE'S AREA THERE WHERE YOU CAN COME IN AND PUT SIMILAR UNITS, EAST VIEW, WHERE CON EDISON HAS THEIR MAIN STATION, HAS VAST AREAS OF LAND WHERE THIS CAN BE CONSTRUCTED.
AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW.
MANY, MANY PLACES UNDER CONEDISON WIRES THAT ARE OUT OF SIGHT OF EVERYBODY ELSE, NOT NEAR RESIDENTIAL.
MY QUALIFICATIONS TO DISCUSS THIS, I'M A GRADUATE OF RENSSELAER POLYTECHNIC INSTITUTE WITH A DEGREE IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING.
I WENT UP TO YORKTOWN WHERE THERE IS A UNIT INSTALLED IN THE BACK OF A SHOPPING CENTER, MAYBE 20
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YARDS FROM THE NEAREST BUILDING, 30 YARDS, COMPLETELY SILENT, THANK YOU.IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED ENVIRONMENTALLY BY KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
THERE HAS BEEN NO ALTERNATIVE SITE REVIEW.
AND THERE MUST BE YOU'RE I COMBINING SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE DESTRUCTIVE ENVIRONMENTALLY TO BUILD, MAINTAIN THE TRUCK TRAFFIC GOING IN THERE, THE MOVING EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
NO WILL A GOLF COURSE BE SAVED.
THERE ARE TWO GOLF COURSES RIGHT NOW BEING REVIEWED FOR VARIOUS THINGS.
ONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, THE NEW HOUSING ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
THE OTHER ON, UH, I CAN'T KEEP THE NAME STRAIGHT, I'M LOSING A LITTLE BIT.
NO, THIS IS NOT WHERE IT BELONGS.
AND YES, THE GOLF COURSE WILL CLOSE.
THEY'VE SAID SO, AND THE FACTS THAT THEY TOLD YOU TONIGHT AREN'T ALL CORRECT.
THE CONNECTIONS TO CON EDISON OR OVERHEAD LINES AND GOING THROUGH EVERYWHERE AND SO ON AT THE TOWN GARAGE, THERE'D BE VERY LITTLE CONNECTION BECAUSE THE LINES ARE ALL VIRTUALLY OVERHEAD.
RESIDENTIAL TOWN GARAGE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
THE UNITS FROM TESLA HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE SAFE.
THE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT WERE SPOKEN ABOUT TONIGHT WERE OTHER UNITS WHERE THE COMPANIES HAVE FAILED IN A WALL STREET JOURNAL.
TODAY IS AN ARTICLE ABOUT OTHER COMPANIES THAT THOUGHT THEY COULD DO IT BUT DIDN'T.
ARE THERE OTHER AREAS? CAN THIS BE DONE TOWN GARAGE, BEING THERE, DOZENS OF PLACES UNDERNEATH THE CONES AND WIRES, THE HIGH VOLTAGE WIRES WHERE IT COULD BE DONE SAFELY WITHOUT IMPACTING A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND YES, IT'S NICE TO LIVE BY A GOLF COURSE AND YES, IT'S NICE, ALL THOSE NICE LITTLE THINGS.
AND YES, THEY GAVE YOU A NICE LITTLE THINGS, BUT HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE GONE UP TO YORKTOWN AND STOOD NEXT TO THE ONE THAT'S THERE NOW? I HAVE, I'VE DONE MY DUE DILIGENCE.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO SAVE A GOLF COURSE.
THERE ARE TWO OTHER GOLF COURSES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE IN JEOPARDY.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT, NOT HAVE TRUCK TRAFFIC GO IN, IN AND OUT OF THERE AND BURYING SOMETHING BELOW.
YOU TALK ABOUT THIS BEING AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND TOWN, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BRING TRUCKS IN THERE TO MOVE DIRT AND LEVEL A PARKING LOT AND BURY THIS, AND IT'S GONNA BE THERE FOREVER.
YOU DIDN'T DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.
YOU, YOU WERE EXACTLY CORRECT.
ARE THERE OTHER ALTERNATIVE SITES? AND THE ANSWER BY THE DOZEN, IF THIS BOARD NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND REJECT THIS OUT OF HAND, IT DOESN'T BELONG IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
WHEN THERE ARE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF SITES, THAT KIND OF STORAGE UNIT WILL BECOME COMMONPLACE ALL OVER.
IT WILL REPLACE DIESEL GENERATORS AT HOSPITALS AND OTHER PLACES THAT NEED EMERGENCY POWER.
WE ARE LIVING IN A WORLD WITH GLOBAL WARMING.
FELLAS, WHAT WENT ON BEFORE CAN'T GO ON.
OR WE'LL LOSE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE OCEAN.
THINK ENVIRONMENTALLY, THINK SAFETY.
THAT'S YOUR FIVE MINUTES, MR. TIM.
IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE BEING INTERRUPTED BY YOU.
WALTER GROIN IS THE LAST SPEAKER I HAVE, UNLESS THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE, PLEASE, UH, CHAT WITH, CHAT ME AND LET ME KNOW.
UH, MR. DUANE, CAN I JUST ASK A REBUTTAL QUESTION TO, TO MR. BODEN? WELL, WHAT
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MR. MR. AND THEN WE'LL LET YOU, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.WALTER GRODEN, YOU HAVE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
CAN SOMEONE UNMUTE HIM OR DOES HE HAVE TO DO IT? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
I'M A 68 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
I'VE JUST RETIRED FROM A 40 YEAR CAREER AS A PRINCIPAL, FIRE PROTECTIONS, UH, SPECIALIST FOR A MAJOR INSURANCE CARRIER.
I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN.
EVEN THOUGH SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW MY AFFILIATION WITH A FIRE DEPARTMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DI HAVE DONE IN MY CAREER IS I SAT WITH LIEUTENANT PAUL ROGERS ON A COMMITTEE, AND LIEUTENANT PAUL ROGERS IS THE SPONSORS, UH, CONSULTANT CONCERNING FIRE PROTECTION.
I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT HE HAS TO SAY, BUT WE DEVELOPED TOGETHER WITH 40 OTHER PEOPLE, A STANDARD RELATIVE TO THE INSTALLATION OF STATIONARY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. THE INTERESTING THING THAT IS IN HERE IS, FIRST THAT STRIKES ME AS PRECEDENT.
WHAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT IS A ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM, SPECIFICALLY ELECTRICAL ENERGY.
AND YOU'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT IF YOU WANNA DO THIS IN THE TOWN.
THIS IS NOT THE ONLY KIND OF ENERGY STORAGE TECHNOLOGY THAT THERE IS.
THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN DIFFERENT ENERGY STORAGE TECHNOLOGIES INVOLVING BATTERIES INVOLVING LEAD ACID BATTERIES, UH, LITHIUM, LITHIUM ION, WHICH I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL USE.
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF OTHER KINDS OF TECHNOLOGIES WITH OTHER IMPLICATIONS, EACH OF THEM.
AND IF YOU'RE OPENING THEM, THE DOOR IN THE TOWN TO DO THIS, TO BE ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE.
AND THAT'S A GOOD THING YOU COULD OPEN, YOU COULD GET OTHER TECHNOLOGIES BESIDES THIS BECAUSE IF YOU LET THESE, THIS PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGY AND SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SAY, WHY NOT MY TECHNOLOGY? IT'S ALSO ENERGY STORAGE OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY, AND IT MAY NOT BE AS SAFE AS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
IT MAY USE MUCH MORE REACTIVE REELS.
SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT YOU IMPLY BY ACCEPTING THIS.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SUGGEST AND REINFORCE THE IDEA THAT THE TOWN SOLICIT AN EXTERNAL OPINION RELATIVE TO THE ISSUES PRESENTED BY THE INSTALLATION OF THIS EQUIPMENT.
THE LITHIUM ION BATTERIES THAT I PROPOSED ARE NOT AT ALL AS BENIGN AS THE APPLICANT'S.
UH, ONE OF THE APPLICANT'S, UH, SPEAKERS REPRESENTED THEM TO BE, THEY SUSTAIN ISSUES HAVING TO DO WITH SOMETHING CALLED THERMAL RUNAWAY.
YES, THEY INCITE FIRE ALL BY THEMSELVES.
UM, THE, I THINK YOU NEED THE AN TO GET AN EXTERNAL OPINION RELATIVE TO THE HAZARDS PRESENTED BY THIS.
AND I THINK IT HAS TO BE SOMEBODY NOT ONLY VERSED IN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY IN FIRE PROTECTION ENGINEERING.
I'D RECOMMEND YOU CONSIDER RALPH JENSEN ASSOCIATES OR RU OR SCHIRMER ENGINEERING OR OTHER RELIABLE FIRE PROTECTION ENGINEERING FIRMS CONVERSANT WITH THE TECHNOLOGY.
THE ISSUE, THE PRIMARY ISSUE MADE, UH, EXPOSURE PRESENTED BY THESE SYSTEMS IS FIRE BATTERIES UNDERGO A PROCESS CALLED THERMAL RUNAWAY.
ONCE THIS HAPPENS, IT CANNOT BE STOPPED.
IT HAPPENS WITHIN THE BATTERY SYSTEM ITSELF, AND IT CAUSES FURTHER THERMAL RUNAWAYS AND A CASCADING CONDITION.
EVEN IF THIS OCCURS INSIDE OF CABINETS, AND THOSE CABINETS MEET THE UL STANDARD, IT IS EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT TO STOP.
THE ONLY THING THE FIRE SERVICE CAN DO RELIABLY FOR THIS IS TO REMOVE THE HEAT OF THE REACTION.
AND EVEN IF THIS IS DONE, THAT DOES NOT ELIMINATE ALL THE PROBLEMS. ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW AND THINK ABOUT IS YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW
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WITH THIS STUFF.AND I SUGGEST YOU TAKE A LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THE STANDARDS THAT ARE OUT THERE, LIKE N F P A 8 55.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN OCCUR HERE IS IT, IS IT QUITE REMARKABLE.
IT CAUSES THESE THINGS CARRY STORE ENERGY, ELECTRICAL ENERGY, 20 MEGAWATTS OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY.
THIS PRESENTS A COMPLETELY UNSEEN UN UH, UNSEEN, PREVIOUSLY UNSEEN HAZARD.
THE FIRE SERVICE HAS NOT BEEN PRESENTED WITH THIS PREVIOUSLY.
IN EFFECT, THIS IS A BOX THAT CONTAINS ENOUGH ELECTRICITY TO ELECTROCUTE PEOPLE ENOUGH ELECTRICITY TO REIGNITE ADDITIONAL FIRES, AND IT CANNOT BE SAFELY OR EASILY DISSIPATED BECAUSE OF THAT.
IF THERE IS AN INCIDENT INVOLVING THESE BATTERIES, AND IT MAY NOT OCCUR, BUT WHEN IT DOES OCCUR, IT IS VERY SERIOUS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES HUGE RESOURCES IN THE TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF WATER IT NEEDS TO COOL THE, THE SYSTEM, THE RUNOFF THAT CAUSES.
AND THEN EVEN AFTER YOU GET THE FIRE UNDER CONTROL AND THE TESTS WILL SHOW THIS, THE ENERGY IS STILL STORED WITHIN THE SYSTEM, WHICH MEANS YOU JUST DON'T WALK UP TO IT AND REPAIR IT.
YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAFELY DISSIPATE THAT ENERGY.
THAT MEANS THERE'S AN EXPOSURE HERE, WHICH IS UNSPOKEN TO AND HAS SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL, FINANCIAL IMPACTS AND POTENTIALS.
HOW DO YOU, IF THIS BATTERY SUSTAINS A LOSS SAFELY, RENDER THE SYSTEM SAFE? HOW DO YOU DISSIPATE THAT ELECTRICAL ENERGY? HOW DO YOU LEAVE THE SCENE? THE FIRE SERVICE GETS THERE, THEY PUT THE FIRE OUT, BUT THEY KNOW THAT THERE, THEY SHOULD KNOW AT LEAST THAT THERE IS 20 MEGAWATTS OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY POTENTIAL CONTAINED IN THAT SYSTEM AND THEY JUST CAN'T LEAVE IT.
AND THE PROBLEM IS THE OPERATORS HAVE TO GET THERE AND REMOVE IT AND DISSIPATE IT.
AND HOW ARE THEY GONNA DO THAT? THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU SHOULD BE ASKING OF THE SPONSOR IS EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE GOING TO CONFRONT THESE PROBLEMS. OKAY, MR. GRODEN, I GOTTA, I GOTTA WRAP UP BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR TIME.
AND AS YOU MAY BE THE LAST SPEAKER, I GOTTA CHECK IN WITH THE TOWN BOARD TO SEE HOW THEY WANT TO PROCEED.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THEY MAY, MAY WANNA MAKE.
I KNOW THAT THE TOWN BOARD MAY HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST WANNA CHECK IN WITH THEM TO SEE HOW THEY WANNA PROCEED GIVEN THE LATE HOUR.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, PURSUE THE HIRING OF AN INDEPENDENT, UM, YOU KNOW, A FIRM THAT COULD, UM, ACTUALLY TELL US ABOUT THE FIRE RISKS, SAFETY RISKS.
AND THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THEY WOULD PAY FOR THAT.
SO THAT TO ME IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE CONCERN.
OKAY, WELL, HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THE, THE, THE PROJECT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE VIABLE IN THE ABSENCE OF A, OF A SEEKER, UH, DETERMINATION, LET'S SAY BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT THAT IS NO PROJECT BECAUSE IT, THE BOARD IS NOT INCLINED TO DO THAT, JAMES? UM, I, I THINK THAT IF THE BOARD IS NOT INCLINED TO DO THAT, THEN I, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND TALK WITH THE REST OF MY TEAM AROUND THE CONTINUED VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT.
BUT I, I WOULD SAY IT'S A, IT'S A LONG SHOT AT THAT POINT, BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT.
CAN I ASK THE BOARD MEMBER? THE BOARD MEMBER IS IF YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, THEIR THOUGHTS ARE IN TERMS OF A NEXT STEP? BECAUSE I, I THINK AT LEAST WE SHOULD TELL THE APPLICANT, ARE WE INCLINED TO, UM, TAKE ACTION, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS? WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT I, I CAN MAKE A SECRET DETERMINATION WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION, SO BE INCLINED TO, UH, WANT SOMEONE AN EXPERT.
SO UNTIL WE ARE CLEAR ON AND GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, NOT COMFORTABLE.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT HAS A DIFFERENT COMMENT THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD? I MEAN, DO WE HAVE THE RANGE NOW OF ISSUES OUT ON THE TABLE FROM THE PUBLIC? WALTER HAS HIS HAND UP.
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ONE COMMENT I WOULD MAKE FOR YOU IS IF THE TOWN WISHES TO BE ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE RELATIVE TO ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES, YOU CAN GET A COPY AND CONSIDER ADOPTING N F P A 8 55.I HAVE NO ASSOCIATION WITH THE PEOPLE WHO PUBLISH THIS OTHER THAN BEING A MEMBER OF IT, BUT THIS IS A GOOD DOCUMENT IF YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES AND DO IT SAFELY IN THE TOWN.
WITH REGARD TO FIRE EXPOSURES, I I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UM, N F P 8 55, I'M SUGGESTING YEAH, THE TOWN ADOPTED AS A TOWN STANDARD.
YOU MAY, YOU MAY BE IN IN COMPLIANCE, THERE COULD BE OTHERS FOLLOWING ON BEHIND YOU, WHICH MAY NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE, AND IT ALSO SPEAKS TO THE OPERATION OF THE FIRE SERVICE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST YOUR COMPLIANCE, IT'S THE FIRE SERVICES ABILITY TO BE ABLE, ABLE TO RESPOND TO AND REACT TO EMERGENCIES OCCURRING FROM THIS KIND OF EQUIPMENT.
MR. SUPER, MR. SUPERVISOR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, I KNOW WE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT THIS EVENING, A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE AS THE APPLICANT WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, THAT, THAT BEING SAID TO ME, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT WE JUST HEARD RECENTLY, AND I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S THE LATE HOUR, BUT I'D LIKE PAUL MARTINE, PAUL ROGERS, IF THE BOARD WOULD PERMIT JUST TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS BECAUSE I, I DON'T WANT THOSE OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE, THEY ARE IMPORTANT.
SO IF WE, IF I CAN HAVE PAUL ROGERS ADDRESS SOME OF THESE COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE JUST HEARD, UH, TO SAFETY, I, I I, I'D LIKE TO GET THAT ONTO THE RECORD THEN.
OBVIOUSLY GIVEN THE LATE HOUR, WE, WE'D BE INCLINED TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THESE ISSUES BACK.
WE'LL DISCUSS THEM AND WE'D LIKE TO REPORT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND ADDRESS THESE COMMENTS AND CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THESE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE PAUL ROGERS TO AT LEAST, UM, ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
HEY, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND, UH, GOOD EVENING, WALTER.
UM, SO THERE WAS A, THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, UH, THAT, UH, WALTER KIND OF MENTIONED AND, UH, AND, AND I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH ON SOME OF THAT STUFF THAT HE HAD MENTIONED.
UM, BUT THE ENGINEERING CONTROLS WITH THE, WITH THE TESLA SYSTEM IS VERY DYNAMIC AND, UM, I'VE LOOKED AT A LOT WHEN I WAS WITH THE NEW YORK CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THERE WERE MANY SYSTEMS THAT CAME INTO NEW YORK CITY THAT, UH, DID NOT HAVE THE SAME FEATURES OF TESLA.
LET ME FIRST STATE, I AM NOT AN EMPLOYEE OF TESLA, NOR DO I WORK FOR TESLA.
I'M NOT ANY WAY ASSOCIATED WITH TESLA, BUT NEW YORK CITY CURRENTLY IS ABOUT TO, WELL, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING TESLA FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU? IT MEANS THAT THEY DID A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THIS SYSTEM.
THE MEGAPACK GOT ALL THE INFORMATION FROM THE TESTING COMPANIES AND THEY WERE, THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF GIVING THEM THAT CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL, WHICH MEANS THAT THIS THING WILL BE ABLE TO BE INSTALLED ANYWHERE WITHIN NEW YORK CITY AS LONG AS IT COMPLIES WITH THE NEW YORK CITY CODE.
SO THEY WILL NO LONGER NEED TO REVIEW THE ACTUAL SYSTEM ITSELF.
SO EVERYONE WITHIN NEW YORK CITY DURING MY TIME THERE, AND THE PEOPLE THAT I STILL SPEAK WITH THERE, CONSIDERED THE TESLA SYSTEM, THE GOLD STANDARD, THAT THEY DID A LOT OF ENGINEERING CONTROLS AND PUT A LOT OF LAYERS OF SAFETY TO ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THIS THING DOESN'T GO, UH, UP ON FIRE.
BUT IN THE EVENT THAT IT DOES GO ON FIRE, THEY ASKED MANY OF US IN THE RESPONDING WORLD WHAT IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR THE FIRE SERVICE.
AND I TOLD HIM ALONG WITH OTHER ONES, WE'RE NOT WORRIED TOO MUCH ABOUT THE FIRE, WE'RE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE EXPLOSION.
FIREFIGHTERS DO NOT NOT HAVE PROTECTIVE GEAR FOR EXPLOSIONS.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY WOUND UP BURNING OFF THE GAS SO THEY WOULD REDUCE ANY POTENTIAL EXPLOSIONS.
SO AS WALTER MENTIONED BEFORE, WHEN THEY RELEASED THOSE FLAMMABLE VAPORS, THOSE FLAMMABLE VAPORS COULD GET CAUGHT ON THE INSIDE OF THAT SYSTEM ITSELF.
AND AS IT CONTINUES TO BUILD WITH MORE AND MORE FLAMMABLE VAPORS FROM PROPAGATION FROM THE THERMAL RUNAWAY, YOUI CAN HAVE AN EXPLOSION.
SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY PUT THE SPARK PLUGS IN THERE TO IMMEDIATELY START TO BURN OFF THAT GAS.
AND BESIDES BEING UP AND RUNNING, NORMALLY THE SECOND SAFEST PLACE THAT THAT ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM WILL BE, WILL BE ON FIRE AND IT WILL NOT BE, UM, CAUSING HAVING A BOMB WHERE YOU HAVE THESE THINGS WHERE THE GASES ARE TRAPPED ON THE INSIDE, WAITING FOR IT TO JUST GET TO THE RIGHT VOLUME AND THEN THE IGNITION TEMPERATURE, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THE REAL CHAOS BEGINS.
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LIKE TESLA WENT ABOVE THAT.THEY ACTUALLY PUT THE DEFLATION PANELS JUST IN CASE.
SO THEY DO HAVE DEFLATION PANELS FOR ANY IMPULSE THAT MAY TAKE PLACE OR ANY BLAST WAVE, BUT THEY DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY TYPE OF BLAST WAVE.
THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO BURN THAT STUFF OFF.
THE OTHER THING THAT YOU BROUGHT UP WAS ABOUT THE STRANDED ENERGY.
AND I AM TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU WITH THE STRANDED ENERGY.
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY TESLA SAYS THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD BURN THESE THINGS OUT.
THEY SHOULD BURN AND LET THEM BURN FOR THE THREE AND A HALF HOURS, SO WE REDUCE AND GET RID OF ANY PARTICULAR STRANDED ENERGY.
WHEN YOU PUT THESE FIRES OUT WITH A HOSE LINE, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL OF THAT STORED AND STRANDED ENERGY TO BE THERE, AND THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF A POTENTIAL RE-IGNITION.
SO THE NEXT BEST OPTION IS IT TO ALLOW IT TO BURN.
AND THIS MESSAGE IS STARTING TO GET OUT TO THE FIRE SERVICE THAT MAYBE WE JUST HAVE A CONTROL BURN AND LET THESE THINGS BURN, UM, THE SEPARATION DISTANCE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALSO HEARD BEFORE WAS THESE THINGS WILL CASCADE FROM ENCLOSURE TO ENCLOSURE.
AS GEORGE MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE WAS TESTING DONE BY UL 95 40 A, WHERE THEY ACTUALLY TESTED THE SYSTEMS SIX INCHES APART AND USING THERMAL COUPLINGS, THEY SHOWED THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO TRANSFER THE HEAT FROM ONE ENCLOSURE TO THE NEXT ENCLOSURE TO ACTUALLY HAVE ANY BATTERIES FAIL IN THE ADJOINING ENCLOSURE.
SO IF THERE WAS ONE ENCLOSURE GOING UP IN FLAMES, THE POTENTIAL OF ANOTHER ONE GOING UP IN FLAMES IS EXTREMELY REMOTE.
SO, UM, AND THAT WAS DONE BY, UH, TESTING WITH UL, UH, 95 40 A AS FAR AS 8 55.
THE, THE BOARD SHOULD KNOW THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HAS ADOPTED THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE FOR THE FIRE CODE THAT'S OUT THERE NOW, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH 8 55 CHAPTER 12 OF THE, UH, UNIFORM FIRE CODE FOR NEW YORK STATE IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO WHAT 8 55 WERE.
THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON THE DOCUMENT OF N F P A 8 55 FOR INSTALLATION, SAFE INSTALLATION OF
THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE FROM NEW YORK STATE ADOPTED THAT A CYCLE EARLY JUST TO GET THIS OUT, TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR FIREFIGHTERS.
I WAS INVOLVED WITH HELPING THEM GET THAT OUT TO, UH, MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
AND THE REASON THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS A BETTER, UH, CODE THAN THE 2018 CODE IS BECAUSE OF PROTECTED FIREFIGHTERS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN TO MAKING SURE THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT WOULD SHOW UP TO THE SCENE WERE PROTECTED.
AND I FELT THAT THAT FIRE CODE WAS BETTER THAN THE 2018 FIRE CODE, WHICH THEY WERE ABOUT TO ADOPT.
SO THEY WENT FORWARD AND, AND ACTUALLY ASKED THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL OR THE I C C WHETHER THEY COULD ACTUALLY ADOPT IT EARLY, AND THEY GAVE THEM PERMISSION TO ADOPT IT EARLY AND THEY WERE THE FIRST STATE IN THE COUNTRY TO ACTUALLY ADOPT THAT TO PROTECT FIREFIGHTERS.
OTHER, OTHER STATES ARE NOW STARTING TO LOOK AT IT AND REALIZING THE BENEFITS OF ACTUALLY ADOPTING THE 2021 CODE OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE AND THEN MODIFYING IT TO THEIR OWN STATE'S REQUIREMENTS.
CAN YOU JUST TELL US YOUR, JUST REAL QUICK, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT JUST TELL ME BRIEFLY YOUR EXPERIENCE.
YEAH, UM, I'M RETIRED FROM THE NEW YORK CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT WHERE I WORKED ON ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS AND SAFE INSTALLATIONS WITHIN NEW YORK CITY.
UM, I WAS A, UH, RESPONDER IN THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL WORLD, A LIEUTENANT, UH, AND THEN I WAS, UH, DRAFTED DOWN TO OUR HEADQUARTERS TO WORK ON THE ADOPTION OF, UH, 6 0 8 THAT'S CURRENTLY OF RULE, THEIR BASIC CODE IN NEW YORK CITY FOR INSTALLATION OF ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. I, UH, I SIT ON THE N F P A 8 55 COMMITTEE WITH MR. WELL, WALTER ROTAN.
I ALSO SIT ON THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, UH, FIRE ACTION COMMITTEE FOR, UH, CHAPTER 12, WHICH IS ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS. I REPRESENT THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS ON, UH, 8 55.
SO HOW WOULD WE LIKE TO PROCEED AT THIS POINT? I, I GUESS I JUST WANNA BE, BE CLEAR.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE TESLA STORAGE SYSTEM IS THE SAFEST ONE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? WELL, THAT'S THE ONES THAT I'VE LOOKED AT.
THE ONES THAT I'VE LOOKED AT IN MY TIME.
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WAS CONSIDERED THE GOLD STANDARD FROM WHAT THE PEOPLE IN F D M Y THAT I STILL KEEP IN CONTACT WITH, THEY CALL ME BECAUSE OF MY, UH, IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE.SO THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THINGS.
THEY STILL THINK THAT TESLA WOULD BE THE GOLD STANDARD.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF SAFETY FEATURES THAT I REALLY CAN'T GET INTO AS FAR AS AN N D A WHEN I WAS WITH F D N Y THAT ARE, UM, FAR SUPERIOR THAN OTHER SYSTEMS THAT I LOOKED AT.
THERE'S A LOT OF LASER SAFETY THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TESLA SYSTEM.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THOSE SAFETY FEATURES ARE PROPRIETARY AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAD TO SIGN AN N D A? THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT, BUT THEY SHARE, BUT I PRESUMABLY THEY SHARE THAT WITH THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY WOULD NEED TO KNOW SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
SO IT'S PERHAPS TESLA WOULD SHARE IT WITH THE, THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
UH, I THINK THAT THEY, THEY WOULD SHARE IT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
I THINK THAT IT'S, UM, THE REGULAR FIREFIGHTER WHO DOESN'T HAVE IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, WON'T UNDERSTAND ANY OF IT, WON'T UNDERSTAND MUCH, BUT I SHOULDN'T SAY, WON'T UNDERSTAND ANY ENERGY, NOT THE AVERAGE FIREFIGHTER.
THE, THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH, UH, TECHNICAL STUFF INVOLVED IN IT.
AND WE CAN WORK WITH TESLA TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT CAN ONLY BE SHARED UNDER AN N D A IN THE HANDS OF ANYONE WHO, WHO'S WILLING TO SIGN THAT N D A AND AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.
UM, AND ALSO JUST A REMINDER, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING TRAINING FOR THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS ANY MUTUAL AID ORGANIZATIONS WHO, WHO MAY BE INTERESTED.
SO IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO HASN'T WHO HASN'T SPOKEN, WHO HASN'T AN ISSUE OTHER THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD TONIGHT? I JUST WANNA SEE IF WE CAN GET THE ENTIRE POOL OF CONCERNS OUT ON THE TABLE, ACTUALLY TO THE, YOU KNOW, SUPERVISOR, FIRE AND TOWN BOARD.
THANK YOU AGAIN VERY MUCH FOR CONSIDERING THE PROJECT.
I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN GET ANOTHER VISIT TO THE PROPERTY SET UP SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE AWARE OF WHERE IN THIS RESIDENTIAL ZONING THIS, THIS PROJECT IS GONNA BE.
I JUST HOPE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SHOULD WE TRY FOR THE SATURDAY? SATURDAY WOULD BE FINE WITH ME.
DO WE KNOW IT'S GONNA RAIN
I, I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE SHOULD REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOTIFY EITHER PEOPLE AND GIVE THEM SOME ADVANCED NOTICE.
IF, IF WE SET UP SOMETHING FOR SATURDAY AND IT'S ALREADY WEDNESDAY, NOT EVERYBODY, UM, WHO'S IN POTENTIALLY INTERESTED, UM, IS ON THIS, UH, ZOOM, YOU KNOW, CALL.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO, UM, UM, ARE PARTICIPATING TONIGHT PARTICIPATED BECAUSE THEY GOT NOTICES, YOU KNOW, FROM ME ABOUT, ABOUT THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK.
SO WE WOULD REALLY HAVE TO SEND OUT, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL NOTICES.
SO I, I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE NOT THIS WEEKEND.
WHAT, BUT GARRETT, GARRETT DOES HAVE THE LIST, UH, THAT HE WAS ABLE TO SEND OUT TO PEOPLE NOT TO COME, UNLESS YOU DON'T THINK IT'S AN EXTENSIVE LIST.
UH, WAS THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION ON THERE? I I, I, YOU KNOW, I, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ON A SATURDAY.
MY FEELING IS ALSO THAT, UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT, UM, THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY PEOPLE AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UM, IF WE SEND OUT A NOTICE, WE SHOULD, UH, SEND THEM A SEND TO PEOPLE, A LINK TO, UM, UH, TO THIS MEETING.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WHO AREN'T HERE TONIGHT WHO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHO POSSIBLY, UH, WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UM, ATTENDING IT AFTER, AFTER THEY GET MORE INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THIS MEETING WAS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, A PRODUCTIVE MEETING OF MY, MY SUGGESTION.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GETTING INTO THE HOLIDAYS, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE, THE MORE TRANSPARENT AND GIVING PEOPLE ADEQUATE TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BETTER, THE BETTER IT IS, BECAUSE THEN NOBODY COULD SAY WE'RE, YEAH, WE'RE RAMMING IT WITHOUT, WITHOUT ADEQUATE NOTICE.
I, I WOULD THINK WHAT JUST, I HAVE A QUICK, QUICK COMMENT.
YOU ASKED IF, IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT, UH, HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD, EVEN THOUGH I DID SPEAK, I, I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE, ONE OF THE 22 OR 23 RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT
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IN THE RAIN AND STOOD THERE AND LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT.AND THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW THAT'S INCONSISTENT.
YOU GUYS SAID THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THIS FROM NORWOOD ROAD.
THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT WAS THERE FROM THE COMPANY SAID THAT IN WINTERTIME SETTINGS, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE TOP OF THIS.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT NOT ONLY FROM NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB, BUT IS NO OF NO CONCERN TO THE RESIDENTS.
'CAUSE WHEN, IF, IF YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER, BUT FROM NORWOOD ROAD, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US WHEN WE WERE STANDING THERE IN THE RAIN.
UH, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE THE MEETING.
I KNOW IT'S THE HOLIDAYS, SO I DON'T WANT TO, UM, INTERFERE.
IF WE WANT TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY.
I I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD DO IT ON THE 19TH.
THAT GIVES US A WEEK TO, UH, PUBLICIZE IT.
UH, WE COULD SEND THE LINK TO THIS, THIS MEETING.
WE COULD ASK PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
WE COULD GET YOU, UH, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE MAY, MAY HAVE IF, UH, THE PLANNING, IF WALTER, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING BOARD, IF THE C A C IF THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WE COULD, UM, SEND IT TO YOU.
HI, UM, I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT.
I LIVE ON NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB AND I WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF ANY OF THESE MEETINGS AT ALL.
I, I THINK THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE NOTIFIED, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DISTRIBUTION IS.
I GUESS WE'RE ELMSFORD GREENBURG WAS NOTIFIED, BUT ELMSFORD WASN'T.
AND I DO THINK THAT, UH, THE PEOPLE SHOULD BE NOTIFIED AND BE AWARE BECAUSE PE NOBODY REALLY KNEW.
WE WEREN'T ADVISED OF ANY OF THE MEETINGS.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE IN THE LOOP.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO SEND A NOTICE TO THE PEOPLE ON THE BLOCK, PUT SOMETHING IN THEIR MAILBOX OR SEND SOMETHING TO, UH, THE, THE TAX ROLE FOR PEOPLE, UM, PAYING ELMSFORD TAXES, I THINK THE PEOPLE, UH, THAT LIVE HERE SHOULD KNOW AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND.
SO DO YOU ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD OR IN UNINCORPORATED AREA WITH THE ELMSFORD POST OFFICE? I LIVE IN ELMSFORD.
I ONLY SENT IT TO THE UNINCORPORATED IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO YOU SENT THE MAILING ALREADY.
UH, NO, I SENT IT FOR, FOR, UH, THIS, THE MEETING WE WERE GONNA HAVE LAST SATURDAY.
I'D JUST LIKE TO CORRECT THE RECORD ON, ON TWO THINGS.
ONE, ACCORDING TO TESLA'S EMERGENCY RESPONSE GUIDE, IT CAN TAKE UP TO 24 HOURS FOR THE BATTERY TO BURN.
THAT'S STRAIGHT OUT OF TESLA'S OWN EMERGENCY RESPONSE GUIDE, AND IT CAN REIGNITE SECOND, UM, THE C A C UNDERESTIMATED THE NUMBER OF ACRES THAT COULD BE AFFECTED BY YOU APPROVING THIS, UH, USING THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
IT COULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ON A HALF AN ACRE OF LAND BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO STANDARDS IN THIS FOR MINIMUM ACREAGE.
SO IT COULD BE ANYWHERE IN GREENBURG, NOT JUST ON THE GOLF COURSES.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD TO THAT IN THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, I'M, I HAVE A HIGH, UH, DEGREE OF FAITH IN TECHNOLOGY.
'CAUSE I HAVE A TECHNOLOGY BACKGROUND AND I THINK THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, UH, THE CONDITIONS, I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY, UH, DO THE NECESSARY DUE DILIGENCE AND, AND COME UP WITH REASONABLE ANSWERS.
THE ISSUE FALLS BACK THAT IS IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, AND THAT IS THE ISSUE.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE TECHNOLOGY HERE, BUT THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE A DATE? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, DO PEOPLE AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH ME? I MEAN, YEAH, I, I DON'T MIND DOING, DOING THE NEXT WEEK.
MY PHONE DOESN'T GO OUT THAT FAR WITH THE WEATHER FORECAST.
WHY DON'T WE MAKE IT LIKE A, A SATURDAY, UH, WITH A, WITH A, UH, A RAIN OR SNOW DATE OF SUNDAY? I COULD DO THAT.
SO THAT'S THE 19TH AND THE 20TH, RIGHT? UH, IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? YES.
11 SEEMED TO WORK PRETTY WELL LAST TIME, I THINK.
MAY I ASK WHEN, IF, WHEN AND IF THE BOARD IS GOING TO CONSIDER REFERRING THIS TO THE C B A?
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WHY DIDN'T THETHE REASON WE DID GOOD QUESTION, FRANCIS.
THE REASON WE DIDN'T, AND WE DISCUSSED IT, IT'S, WE HAVE NEVER IN OUR EXISTENCE, AT LEAST IN MY EXISTENCE ON THE BOARD, WHICH IS ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW, UH, REFERRED A BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OPINION TO THE Z B A.
IT'S BEEN A PO JUST BEEN A, AN UNWRITTEN POLICY OF OUR BOARD FOR THAT L LENGTH OF TIME.
IF YOU GUYS DON'T, I THINK I WILL BRING IT UP AT THE PLANNING BOARD TO SEE IF WE WILL, BECAUSE I THINK THIS BELONGS AT THE CBA A RIGHT.
BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SENT THE REFERRAL OVER AND THEN YOU DELIBERATE OVER IT AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT, AND THEN YOU SEND IT BACK TO US, YOU, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DELAYS THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
'CAUSE NOW IF WE THEN SEND IT TO THE ZONING BOARD, WHICH THEY COULD HAVE ALREADY HAD IT ON THEIR CALENDAR, UH, NOW IT KICKS IT INTO SOMETIME IN MARCH BY THE TIME THEY ACTUALLY RENDER A DECISION.
AND I WAS JUST PROCEDURALLY AND TRYING TO, UH, COME TO SOME CLOSURE ON APPLICATIONS, WHICH WE FREQUENTLY TALK ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE MOVE APPLICATIONS ALONG? I, I AGREE WITH YOU, FRANCIS, IN, IN THE FUTURE, IN A CASE LIKE THIS, I THINK OUR BOARD SHOULD DO THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE UP AGAINST IT IN TERMS OF TIME BECAUSE OF THIS HEARING TONIGHT AND WANTING TO GET YOU A RECOMMENDATION.
WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TIME TO REALLY GET INTO DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD ACTUALLY REFER, REFER TO IT.
AND, AND AT THAT POINT, JUST PUT IT INTO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD CONSIDER DOING IT, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T HAVE.
IT SHOULD BE RE REFERRED BY SOMEONE TO THE Z B A OH FRANCIS.
MIGHT ALSO JUST COMMENT THAT, UM, A REQUIREMENT TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS IS THAT THE TOWN BOARD DECIDE WHETHER THEY NEED OR DO NOT NEED AN E I SS UNDER THE STANDARD OF THE, THE TOWN BOARD COULD DETERMINE BASED ON WHAT'S IN FRONT OF IT, THERE WILL BE NO ENVIRONMENTAL HARM.
UM, AND BASICALLY IF YOU WERE TO CONCLUDE THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT DECISION, YOU NEED TO ENGAGE AN EXPERT, UM, AND, UH, PERHAPS WALTER COULD ASSIST US AS A RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHO THAT EXPERT WOULD BE.
UM, THAT E I S PROCESS OBVIOUSLY COULD RUN IN PARALLEL WITH WHATEVER THE TOWN BOARD MIGHT DECIDE TO DO ABOUT A Z P A REFERRAL.
SO DO WE WANNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE WE HAVE A STENOGRAPHER HERE WHO'S, WHO'S TAKING MINUTES AND, AND WE CAN HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS.
I, TIM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK DEBORAH IF HE HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS HE WANTS TO MAKE AT THIS POINT? UH, NO, NO COMMENTS.
WELL, WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? WE CLOSE IT OR LEAVE IT OPEN OR WHAT? THERE'S STILL A QUESTION THAT HAS TO BE, UM, DECIDED UPON A QUESTION REGARDING A SITE MEETING ON DECEMBER 19TH.
IS EVERYONE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? OKAY.
YES, THAT'S, I CAN DO 11 O'CLOCK ON SATURDAY, BUT I'D HAVE TO DO THE AFTERNOON ON SUNDAY.
SO WHAT TIME IN THE AFTERNOON ON SUNDAY? WHAT, WHAT TIME IS GOOD FOR YOU, GINA? IF WE, IF WE COULD TRY TO DO SOMETHING ONE TO TWO IS GOOD.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL A MEETING, FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY, SAY THE 27TH.
THERE'S THE, UH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK.
UH, THE, THE, UH, THE D E I S DISCUSSION AND, UH, IN THE INTERIM, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, YOU HAVE A WORK SESSION YOU MENTIONED YOU WERE GOING TO DISCUSS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST MEETING IS NOT THE 27TH.
I'M, I'M SORRY, THE FIRST MEETING THE 13TH.
I, I RECOMMENDING TO ADJOURN TO THE 13TH BECAUSE OF THE 27TH WITH THE D E I S.
UM, AND YEAH, IF THE BOARD'S GOING TO CONSIDER A SECRET DETERMINATION IN THE INTERIM, UM, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENT, YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SPECIAL PERMIT LINGERING INTO THE NEW YEAR.
SO THE SITE MEETING IS GONNA BE HELD ON SATURDAY THE 19TH OR SUNDAY THE 20TH.
I BELIEVE IT'S A, IT'S SUNDAY IS A SNOW OR RAIN, UH, SNOW, RAIN, SLEET.
DOUG, I JUST, JUST SO THE RECORD'S CLEAR, I THINK IT'S DECEMBER 19TH AT 11:00 AM WITH A RAIN SNOW DATE OF DECEMBER 20TH, I BELIEVE AT, AT ONE O'CLOCK.
IS THAT, DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYONE? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
UH, GARRETT, UH, I'M SORRY, I, THE
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PUBLIC HEARING'S GONE OVER TO JANUARY 13TH.IS IS THAT RIGHT? GARRETT? YOU WANNA CLOSE OR, OR ADJOURN? 'CAUSE IN LIEU OF THE STENOGRAPHER, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ARE WE STILL ON THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW OR? YEAH, WE DID A MOTION TO, UH, TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL, WELL, WHEN IS, WHEN IS THE, WHEN IS THERE GOING TO BE A HEARING? 'CAUSE GARY SAID THE SE DETERMINATION WOULD BE BEFORE JANUARY 13TH.
WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE? I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
RECOMMENDATION THAT THE TOWN BOARD AUR TO JANUARY 13TH.
I, I'M SORRY, I I CAN'T JUST SAY IT AGAIN.
GARRETT MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE TOWN BOARD ADJOURN THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO JANUARY 13TH.
I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU WHEN, SO MY QUESTION IS, IS A NAKED QUESTION.
WHEN IS THE TOWN BOARD GONNA FOCUS ON WHETHER, ON WHETHER THIS SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE AN E I S YOU THINK THE TOWN BOARD HAS TO DISCUSS THAT AMONGST THEMSELVES? WILL, WILL, WILL PEOPLE BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, TOWN BOARD NEEDS TO DISCUSS THESE THINGS.
I THINK THEY INDICATED THERE'S A WORK SESSION COMING UP, DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, ASPECT OF THIS PROPOSAL.
UM, SO YEAH, I JUST CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE
SO THE PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS, MIKE, SO I'M, I'M SURE YOU WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT AND, AND THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT BECAUSE THOSE, THOSE WOULD BE PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS.
I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID.
SO WAS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO, THERE WAS A MOTION BY KEN.
SORRY, WHAT WAS THE MOTION? UM, GARRETT RECOMMENDED THAT, THAT THE HEARING BE ADJOURNED TO JANUARY 13TH.
BUT WHAT WAS KEN'S MOTION? THAT WAS KEN'S MOTION, I BELIEVE THAT WAS, THAT WAS CAN'T, OKAY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT KEN'S MOTION WAS.
SO KEN, YOU ARE MAKING THE MOTION THAT THE HEARING BE ADJOURNED TO JANUARY 13TH, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, JUDITH.
UH, UH, SUPERVISOR, REMEMBER THE BOARD? THANK YOU.
I JUST WANNA ASK ONE QUESTION REGARDING, I KNOW THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD THIS EVENING, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS MANY OF THESE COMMENTS 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT PERMIT.
UH, I KNOW THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT C R, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL BE GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I GUESS THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO WOULD BE ON JANUARY 13TH TO RESPOND TO MANY THESE COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD THIS EVENING.
RIGHT? WELL, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE 13TH.
YOU CAN GET A COPY OF THE TRANSCRIPT AND, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTOOD.
PUT IN WRITING, PUT IN WRITING WHAT YOU WANT.
AND, UH, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU KNOW THAT ONCE YOU DO THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE AND THEN READ WHAT YOU WROTE, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DELAYS, UH, HEARING, HEARING NON-DOCUMENTED, UH, COMMENTS.
NO, AND WE WILL, WE WILL DEFINITELY DISCUSS THAT.
AND THAT, THAT APPLIES TO EVERYBODY.
[ PUBLIC COMMENT Advance signup via PublicComment@GreenburghNY.com is required. See instructions on first page. A three minute limit per speaker will be strictly enforced. No interruptions by Town Board members, the Town Clerk or the public will be permitted. Any questions on agenda items should be asked at this time. Department Heads have the option of leaving the meeting following Public Comment. Therefore, if anyone has questions that are related to resolutions/items on the agenda involving a specific Department Head, those questions should be raised at this time.]
PUBLIC COMMENT.ANYBODY LIKE TO COMMENT? GOODNIGHT.
PAUL, ARE YOU GOING TO HOLD PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER 11? NO, WE'RE JUST HAVING ONE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING AND MR. BOWDEN HAS ONE FINGER UP.
THAT MEANS HE WANTS ONE MINUTE BECAUSE THAT'S A NEW WAY OF DOING THINGS.
CAN HE CLOSE THE SCREEN? OKAY.
UM, GIVEN THE, THE LIGHTNESS OF THE HOUR, I COMPLIMENT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THEIR HANDLING OF THE WINTER PARKING, UH, SITUATION.
UM, I THINK IT WAS VERY WELL DONE.
IT IS BEING VERY WELL RESPECTED ON OUR STREET AND, UH, THERE SHOULD BE RECOGNITION HOW WELL, AND HOW QUICKLY THAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED.
AND YOU GET AN EXTRA MINUTE BECAUSE YOU'RE COMPLIMENTING
[ TB 4 - 12/09/2020 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into an agreement with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (“MTA”) and its subsidiary, Metro-North Commuter Railroad Company (“Metro North”), to temporarily use a portion of Town owned property adjacent to Metro-North’s Hartsdale Train Station as a staging area for improvements to the station; and an agreement by the MTA and Metro North to hold the Town harmless from any and all claims caused by the negligence or willful misconduct on the part of the MTA and/or Metro North]
NO, I, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION PAUL, THAT WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES ON THE, UH, ON THE CALL FROM THE M T A.UM, AND THEY'RE JUST REALLY HERE TO LISTEN AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, UH, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TD FOUR, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THOSE.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA KNOW, UM, IF THE, UH, ELEVATOR, UH, APPLICATION IS GONNA CONSTRUCTION IS ACTUALLY GONNA HAPPEN NEXT YEAR IN LIGHT OF, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGETARY, UH, ISSUES THAT METRO NORTH HAS.
YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THAT IT DOES BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A NEEDED PROJECT AND IT WOULD BE AN ENORMOUS, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE ENHANCEMENT.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR IT FOR
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SO MANY YEARS.SO IF THEY'RE ON THE TRAIN STATION AND, AND YOU HAVE MARK MANNING, SO I THINK IS ON THE CALL.
WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET HIM ON? YEAH.
MARK, YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THAT? YEAH, I'M, I'M HERE.
UH, YEAH, SO MAYBE YOU COULD JUST GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE ELEVATOR.
I'M SENIOR, UH, DIRECTOR OF CORPORATE AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS AT METRO NORTH.
I'M ALSO JOINED BY NEIL MASTER, MASTER P H OS WITH, UM, M T A REAL ESTATE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE PROJECT, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THE AGREEMENT, UM, THAT THE RESOLUTION THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT WITH THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE STAGING AND LAY DOWN, UM, TO GET THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FINALIZED.
WE'RE ALSO WORKING, NEIL'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE HARTSDALE PARKING DISTRICT, UM, TO FINALIZE THE EASEMENTS, UM, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S NEEDED, UM, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TWO ELEVATORS.
UM, SINCE METRO NORTH DOES NOT OWN ANY PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, PLATFORM AND TRACK AREA.
AND ONCE WE HAVE THOSE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE, WE CAN THEN GO TO, UM, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT AS I KNOW THE TOWN IS LOOKING FOR THIS FOR, FOR MANY YEARS.
UM, SO OF OUR CUSTOMERS, I, WE CAN THEN, UM, FI HAVE THOSE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE AND THEN, UM, REQUEST THE FUNDING, UM, THROUGH THE M T A CAPITAL PROGRAM.
AND I, YOU KNOW, EVEN GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE M T A IS IN A SERIOUS FINANCIAL SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
UM, THIS IS, LIKE I SAID, AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.
WE WOULD THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, GET THE, UH, FUNDING IN PLACE AND THEN, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO GO OUT TO THE STREET AND, UM, YOU KNOW, RETAIN A CONTRACTOR TO BEGIN TO START CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S A GOOD HOLIDAY PRESENT TO, UH, PEOPLE IN, UH, HARTSDALE AND GREENBURG.
YEAH, NO, I, IT IS, IT'S A LONG TIME INCOMING.
SO MAYBE SINCE UH, UH, YOU'RE UP LATE AND WORKING OVERTIME, MAYBE WE COULD JUST TAKE THAT RESOLUTION OUT OF ORDER SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THE REST OF THE MEETING.
IS THAT OKAY? WELL IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT 'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE RESOLUTION RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT, SO
SO LET'S, UH, WE'LL DO IT REAL QUICK.
DO WE HAVE THE AGENDA? YEAH, SO WE WROTE, WE ALREADY VOTED ON TB ONE AND TB TWO.
[ TB 3 - 12/09/2020 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a one-year contract commencing January 1, 2019 through December 31, 2019 with the Village of Hastings-on-Hudson for Fire Protection Services to the Donald Park Fire Protection District, at a cost not to exceed $339,057]
UH, TB THREE AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR 10 DURING TO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2019 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2019 WITH THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS ON HUDSON FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES, UH, TO THE DONALD PARK, UH, FIRED PROTECTION DISTRICT AT ACROSSLIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AUTHORIZING THE TOWN SUPERVISOR AND TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY AND ITS SUB CITY AREA, METRO NORTH COMMUTER RAILROAD COMPANY, METRO NORTH TO TEMPORARILY USE A PORTION OF TOWN OWNED PROPERTY ADJACENT TO METRO NORTH DALE TRAIN STATION AS A STAGING AREA FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STATION AND AN AGREEMENT BY THE M T A IN METRO NORTH TO HOLD THE TOWN HARMLESS FOR MANY AND ALL CLAIMS CAUSED BY THE NEGLIGENCE OR WILLFUL MISCONDUCT ON THE PART OF THE M T A OR METRO NORTH.
ANY SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, CON, UH, THANK YOU TO MR. MADOX AND, UM, METRO NORTH FOR BEING RESPONSIVE, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, THE COMMUNITY.
UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, DON'T APPRECIATE THE DEDICATION AND, UM, HARD WORK, UM, OF, UH, PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF WHO REALLY ARE, ARE COMMITTED TO EXCELLENT PUBLIC, UM, UNIT SERVICE.
SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR, UH, JOINING US TONIGHT AND REALLY THANK YOU FOR HELPING TO PUSH THIS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT, UH, FORWARD.
[ AT 1 - 12/09/2020 Resolution authorizing the continued retention of Allen R. Wolff of the law firm of Anderson Kill, P.C., as Special Counsel for the Town of Greenburgh regarding insurance coverage matters at a cost not to exceed $100,000]
NEXT, UM, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF ALAN WOLF, OF THE LAW FIRM OF ANDERSON KILL A SPECIAL COUNSEL FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG REGARDING INSURANCE COVERAGE MATTERS AND OF COURSE NOT TO EXCEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND.[ AT 2 - 12/09/2020 Resolution authorizing an agreement with WestCOP to provide Social Services to the Town of Greenburgh for calendar year 2020, at a cost not to exceed $16,837, plus up to $400 reimbursement for meal delivery mileage expenses documented to the satisfaction of the Town Comptroller]
AYE.RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH WEST COPP TO PROVIDE SOCIAL SERVICES TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2020 AT A COURSE NOT TO EXCEED 16,837 PLUS UP TO $400 REIMBURSEMENT FOR MEAL DELIVERY MILEAGE
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EXPENSES DOCUMENTED TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE TOWN CONTROLLER.[ CL 1 - 12/09/2020 Resolution authorizing permission for a Christmas Tree to be erected at “The Circle” in Parkway Homes, located directly off the Bronx River Parkway at the intersections of Stone Avenue, Parkway Homes Road, Ethelton, Maryton and Edgepark Roads for the purpose of Christmas Caroling and permission for a partial street closing (section of road, located at the north end of “the circle,”) connecting Ethelton Road to Maryton Road, to be closed off with police barriers to ensure safety of attendees on Sunday, December 13, 2020 from 5:30 PM to 7:00 PM]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PERMISSION FOR CHRISTMAS TREE TO BE ERECTED AT THE CIR CIRCLE AND PARKWAY HOMES LOCATED DIRECTLY OFF THE BRONXVILLE PARKWAY AT THE INTERSECTION OF STONY AVENUE PARKWAY HOMES ROAD, ETHERTON, MARAN, AND EDGE PARK ROAD FOR THE PURPOSE OF CHRISTMAS CAROLING AND PERMISSION FOR PARTIAL STREET CL UH, CLOSING, UH, CONNECTING ETHERTON ROAD TO MARAN ROAD TO BE CLOSED OFF, UM, WITH POLICE BARRIERS TO ENSURE SAFETY OF ATTENDEES ON DECEMBER 13TH FROM FIVE 30 TO 7:00 PM WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT IN FAVOR? AYE.[ CD 1 - 12/09/2020 Resolution declaring the intention of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh to be Lead Agency with respect to SEQRA for an action involving the design and construction of a new sidewalk spanning the east side of Hillside Avenue (NYS Rt. 100) from the Town of Greenburgh Town Hall (177 Hillside Avenue) north to the intersection of North Road]
UH, RESOLUTION DECLARING INTENT OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO BE LEAD AGENCY WITH RESPECT TO SEEKER FOR AN ACTION INVOLVING THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SIDEWALK SPANNING THE EAST SIDE OF HILLSIDE AVENUE FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, NORTH TO INTERSECTION OF NORTH ROAD.[ CD 2 - 12/09/2020 Resolution referring a special permit (Continuum of Care Facility) and site plan application of Brightview Senior Living Development, LLC, for property located at 289 Dobbs Ferry Road (P.O. White Plains), and referring the applications to the Planning Board for review and recommendation]
AND RESOLUTION REFERRING A SPECIAL, UM, PERMIT AND, UM, SITE PLAN OF BRIGHTVIEW SENIOR LIVING DEVELOPMENT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 89 DO ROAD AND REFERRING THE APPLICATIONS TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[ CD 3 - 12/09/2020 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh adopting the Town of Greenburgh Tree Technical Manual, dated December 2020, a companion document to the newly adopted Town Tree Ordinance, Chapter 260 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh, entitled “Trees, Community Management.”]
AYE.RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ADOPTING THE TOWN OF GREENBURG'S PRE TECHNICAL MANUAL DATED DECEMBER 20TH, A COMPANION DOCUMENT TO THE NEWLY ADOPTED TREE ORDINANCE TO SEC CHAPTER TWO 60 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND PETAL TREES COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
[ CD 4 - 12/09/2020 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh adopting a Fee Schedule in connection with the newly adopted Town Tree Ordinance, Chapter 260 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh, entitled “Trees, Community Management.”]
RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, ADOPTING A FEE SCHEDULE IN CONNECTION WITH A NEWLY ADOPTED TREE ORDINANCE CHAPTER TWO 60 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED TREES COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ CO 1 - 12/09/2020 Resolution authorizing Fiscal Year 2020 Budget Transfers]
AND RESOLUTION OF THE AUTHORIZING FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET TRANSFERS.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ CO 2 - 12/09/2020 Resolution retaining Capital Markets Advisors LLC as financial advisors for the period January 1, 2020 through December 31, 2021]
AYE.RESOLUTION RETAINING CAPITAL MARKETS ADVISORS, FINANCIAL ADVISORS FOR PERIOD JANUARY 1ST, 2020 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2021.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND, SECOND FAVOR, AYE.
WE'RE NOT COORDINATED 'CAUSE WE CAN'T SEE EACH OTHER.
[ PO 1 - 12/09/2020 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into an agreement with the County of Westchester to extend the existing Stop-DWI Agreement for an additional five years]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE, UH, THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO ENTER, ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER TO EXTEND THE EXISTING STOP B W I AGREEMENT FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT AYE SECOND, SORRY, I'M TRYING
[ PO 2 - 12/09/2020 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a new Mutual Aid and Rapid Response Plan with the County of Westchester for police departments in Westchester County]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO, TO NEW MUTUAL AID AND RAPID RESPONSE PLAN WITH THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN WESTCHESTER.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ PO 4 - 12/09/2020 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh authorizing the Town Supervisor to renew an Inter-Municipal Agreement with the Villages of Ardsley, Dobbs Ferry, Elmsford, Hastings-on-Hudson, Irvington and Tarrytwonw to continue the Town-Wide Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) Unit]
RESOLUTION, UM, OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO TO RENEW AN INTO MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH THE VILLAGE OF RADLEY D TERRY ELMSFORD HASTINGS ON HUDSON, IRVINGTON AND TARRYTOWN TO CONTINUE THE TOWN WIDE SPECIAL WEAPONS AND TACTIC SWAT UNIT.[ PW 1 - 12/09/2020 Resolution authorizing the award of bid for water treatment chemicals to the lowest responsible bidders for 2021]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE WARD OF BID FOR WATER TREATMENT CHEMICALS TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS FOR 2021.[ TY 1 - 12/09/2020 Resolution accepting on behalf of the Department of Community Resources a donation from the Hartsdale-Greenburgh Rotary Club in the amount of $1,000 to provide groceries for families in need for the Thanksgiving and Christmas Holidays]
RESOLUTION.ACCEPTING ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES OF DONATION FROM THE HARSDALE GREENBERG ROTARY CLUB IN THE AMOUNT OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
GO TO, UH, FAMILIES OF NEED FOR THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS.
I, I BELIEVE THOSE WERE GIVEN IN, IN, UM, GIFT CARDS.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE, RE ADJOURN.