* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. OKAY. [00:00:01] SO I, I, DO [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL GREENBURGH TOWN HALL LEE F. JACKSON MEETING ROOM Agenda THURSDAY, January 14, 2021 – 6:30 P.M. ] I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS THE TWO SETS MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 12TH AND DECEMBER 10TH? SURE. OKAY. SHARON, SECOND. SECOND BY PETER. ALL IN FAVOR? YAY. AYE. YOU ACCOMPLISH THAT, TERRY. I'LL SEND THEM TO YOU WITH THE SEAL SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD DO TONIGHT WAS, THERE'S JUST BEEN SO MUCH GOING ON AND IT'S LIKE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO JUST GET EVERYONE UP TO SPEED ON WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN TERMS OF ELWOOD, IN TERMS OF THE EXCESS FOOD ACT, I THINK IS ACTUALLY FROM EMAIL COVERED. UM, THE BLOWER LORE, THE EAGLE ENERGY, I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN A FLURRY OF EMAILS AT THE, UM, VICE CHAIR AND CHAIR LEVEL BETWEEN THE PLANNING BOARD, THE TOWN BOARD, AND MIKE AND MYSELF, UM, GOING BACK AND FORTH. AND I WAS KIND OF HOPING MIKE WOULD BE HERE 'CAUSE WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO REPEAT HALF OF THIS. SO, UM, WE'LL START OUT WITH ALWOOD, UM, THAT, THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR, I BELIEVE THE 27TH OF JANUARY. AND, UM, GARRETT WAS VERY COMPLIMENTARY ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. SO I WANNA THANK YOU ALL 'CAUSE I THINK EVERYONE HAD INPUT ON THAT. UM, AND DEFINITELY WILL BE PART OF THE, TO BE ANSWERED IN THE FINAL F E I S. WHAT I ASKED GAR, UH, GARRETT TO CHECK ON IT HASN'T GOTTEN BACK TO ME WAS, UM, AND MIKE CAN RAISE THIS, WHEN'S THE BEST POINT FOR US TO COME IN AT A MEETING AND BASE THAT MAYBE WE HAVE A PREFERENCE ON SOME OF THESE THINGS? BECAUSE WHEN WE PUT IT IN THE QUESTION, UM, IF WE WERE TO PUT IN A QUESTION, WHY ARE YOU DOING A FOUR UNIT STRUCTURE THAT'S 10,000, 12,000 SQUARE FEET AND NOT SEPARATE UNITS THAT ARE VISUALLY MORE APPEALING, I THINK THERE'S A CONSENSUS AMONG THE C A C JUST FROM THE EMAILS THAT MOST OF US WOULD'VE PREFERRED A LITTLE LESS BULK ON THESE BUILDINGS. SO THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN, IN HARMONY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL, IF WE PUT THAT AS A QUESTION, THEY WILL APPLY. WELL 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO OR SOMETHING. SO THERE IS A POINT IN THE PROCESS WHERE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO IN AND SAY, LOOK, YEAH, YOU'VE TOLD US ALL THIS NOW LET US TELL YOU WHAT WE THINK YOU SHOULD DO. THAT WOULD BE MORE IN CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WOULD PRE-CREATE BETTER PHYSICAL VISTAS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND YOUR DEVELOPMENT. YES. SHARON, WHY THEY COULDN'T PUT IT SOMEWHAT UNDERGROUND. WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SENIOR CITIZENS. OH, REMIND ME WHEN WE I AM VERY GLAD YOU'RE SO, YOU'RE ENJOYING IT SO MUCH, . SO JUST THE VISUAL OF, YOU KNOW, DIGGING THESE BIG HOLES AND PUTTING THE BUILDINGS ON THE GROUND. UH, OKAY. SO THAT'S MOVING ALONG. AND, UM, WE HAVE, UH, I THINK MIKE HAS BROUGHT EVERYONE UP TO DATE ON THE EXCESS FOOD ACT, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT THAT IT'S WHERE IT IS. UH, SO GETTING TO EAGLE. UM, DO THE BLOWER, THE BLOWER LAW IS ALSO SCHEDULED FOR THE 27TH. I HOPE THE 27TH OF WEDNESDAY, 27TH IS RIGHT. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW. FRANCIS SENT OUT SOME CRAZY WACKY, UH, EMAILS SOMEWHERE IN THERE TO US, AND IT SOUNDED LIKE HE HAD MISSED THE WHOLE, WHOLE LAST MEETING. UM, I SUSPECT IT'S GONNA GO FOR A VOTE UP OR DOWN. UM, I THINK PAUL HAS THE VOTES TO PASS WHAT'S THERE NOW. I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TRY IT AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT MUCH TO WORK. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME IN WHO ARE GONNA OPPOSE IT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONES WE ARE PROBABLY KEEPING A LOW PROFILE. IS IT BEST BET AT GETTING ANYTHING PASSED? UM, WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES WITH THAT. BUT, UM, THAT'S THE UPDATE ON THAT ONE. OH, UH, TERRY. HI TERRY. CAN I COMMENT? THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THE WAY FRANCIS NOTICED THIS WAS THAT IT WAS AN AMENDMENT OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE. [00:05:01] OUR LAW HAS NOT, DOESN'T MENTION THE WORD NOISE OR DE IT SAYS YOU CAN'T USE A BLOWUP EXCEPT DURING SPRING CLEANUP AND FALL CLEANUP. PLUS THERE'S ANOTHER PUBLIC SAFETY EXCEPTIONS. UM, I DON'T BELIEVE UNDER THE NOTICE THAT WAS GIVEN, OUR LAW CAN LEGALLY BE HEARD, AND I KNOW IT CANNOT LEGALLY BE VOTED ON. UM, SO THE QUESTION IS, WE HAVE POINTED THIS OUT IN AN EMAIL DATED DECEMBER 10TH TO THE TOWN BOARD. UH, I SUBSEQUENTLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH PAUL ABOUT THIS, AND I RESENT HIM THE DECEMBER 10TH, UH, MEMO AND, UM, UH, HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM HIM. SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DOES THE GROUP WANT TO DO? I MEAN, UM, FRANCIS WANTS US TO DROP TO DO A NOISE ORDINANCE, BUT HE OPPOSES THE NOISE ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE OPPOSED. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UH, A CATCH 22, YOU KNOW, DO A NOISE ORDINANCE. BUT I I I DON'T, I I DON'T APPROVE THE NOISE. I I DON'T WANT THE NOISE ORDINANCE. HI. SO WHAT, WHAT DO, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO, MIKE? WHY DOES FRANCIS WANT TO HAVE IT AN AMENDMENT TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE? WELL, IT'S SPECIALTY. I DON'T KNOW WHY. I KNOW HE'S OPPOSED, UH, HE'S OPPOSED, UH, FRANCIS IS OPPOSED TO BLOWING LAW FOR 10 YEARS, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE AIR CONDITIONER. . WELL, WE, WE MADE AN EXCEPTION FOR THAT, SHARON. YOU KNOW, WE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE AN EXCEPTION. WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY AND WE HAVE FRANCIS'S, AIR CONDITIONER, COMPRESSOR, . WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO EXCEPTIONS. WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY AND FRANCIS' AIR CONDITIONING, YOU KNOW, SO IN OUR LAW. SO, I DUNNO, MIKE, I HAVE A QUE I HAVE A QUESTION TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, SHARON. UH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO CALL FRANCIS. I GET YOU HIS NUMBER IF YOU WANT IT. UH, AND ASK HIM. THANK YOU. ANYWAY, , DON'T EVERYONE SPEAK AT ONCE ON ZOOM WITH THE ONCE FRANCIS NUMBER NOW? YEAH, I DO. . YOU, ARE YOU SERIOUS? TAKE CARE. YEAH. SEND TO YOU. WILL YOU, WILL YOU, UH, EMAIL IT TO ME? YEAH, OF COURSE. LET ME WRITE IT DOWN SO I DON'T FORGET. BUT OF COURSE IT WILL. IF I FORGET, PLEASE. UH, GOOD. I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ANYMORE. YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST THINK WE'RE IN A CATCH 22 AND I JUST FEEL, I FEEL VERY BAD FOR ALL THE TIME PEOPLE HAVE HAD TO SPEND ON THIS, BECAUSE I JUST RESENT HAVING PEOPLE'S TIME WASTED. YEAH. BUT I, I HAVE A QUESTION. POTENTIALLY D YOU KNOW, DEAR MARKER, WHO SPENT HUNDREDS OF HOURS IN 2017 RESEARCHING THIS, I WROTE IT UP. BUT THE RESEARCH IS ALL MARCUS. WELL, YES. AND PETER SPENT A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME DOING THE STUDY ON THE ARTICLE. OH, YEAH. OH YEAH. ON ALL THE, SO I SAY IT'S LIKE THIS IS THE FOURTH TIME AROUND. IT HAS BEEN SO MUCH TIME SPENT ON THIS BY PEOPLE, AND IT'S LIKE, EITHER VOTE ON IT OR SAY WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA DO IT. AND THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S A DECISION. , IT'S . SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOTTA KEEP HAMMERING. THAT'S ALL. BUT WHY, WHY, WHY CAN'T IT BE DO AGREE? WHY IS IT, WHY IS IT ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO VOTE ON IT OR HEAR IT? WHY IT'S NOT NOTICED? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NOTICED PROPERLY. NOTICE AMENDMENTS, NOISE, LAW, THE WORD NOISE AND DECIMALS ARE NOT IN THE LAW. GOTCHA. IT'S CALENDAR BASED. YOU KNOW, ALL THE POLICE, ALL THE POLICE OFFICER NEEDS IS A CALENDAR. BUT I AGREE WITH TERRY, WE SHOULD TAKE A VERY LOW PROFILE. THE ONLY THING IS, DO WE WANT TO SEND ONE MORE LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD AND SAYS, THIS DOG DON'T HUNT. YOU CANNOT, YOU CANNOT, UH, UH, LEGALLY, UH, DISCUSS IT AND YOU SURE AS HELL CAN'T VOTE ON IT BECAUSE IT AIN'T GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH NOISE. EXCEPT OF COURSE, IN THE PERIODS YOU CAN'T USE IT. THERE WON'T BE ANY NOISE. BUT IT DOES NOT REGULATE NOISE. OR THEY WON'T JUST DO NOTHING. AND I MEAN, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK, I THINK AT THIS POINT THEY'RE NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN ANYTHING WE HAVE TO SAY. SO WHY, WHY WRITE ANOTHER ANOTHER MISS? I, I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT I'M GONNA GO TO THE 27TH. I GOT NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT WHAT'S NOTICED. I JUST FEEL IT'S, IT'S LIKE I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD OUR SAY, WE KNOW WE'VE GIVEN US A, A RECOMMENDATION. WE BUILT, UH, A CONSENSUS WITH D P W AND PARKS AND REC, I MEAN RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE, THEY, THEY WORKED WITH US. WE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING. WE CAME BACK AND SAID EVERYONE WAS IN, UH, AGREEMENT. UH, BOTH RICHARD FUN AND, AND, AND JERRY WERE [00:10:01] VERY POSITIVE ABOUT MEETING WITH US AND WORKING TOGETHER. I MEAN, I COULDN'T DO, YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY, I WAS SHOCKED AT HOW NICE THEY WERE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T FORCING THEM TO DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING SEEMED TO BE IN PLACE FOR THE TOWN. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THERE'S NOTHING MORE WE CAN REALLY BRING TO THE TABLE ON THIS ONE, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. AND, AND THEY EVEN AUTHORIZED US TO SAY IN THE TRANSMITTAL LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT THEY SUPPORTED. I'LL WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR WHEN THEY GET LETTERS FROM PEOPLE AND THEY WANT TO DO IT AGAIN. I, I, I THINK I'M AT THE POINT THAT AS I GET THESE EMAILS FROM PAUL, I AM JUST GONNA SEND THEM BACK OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, YOU HAVE NO IDEA THAT PARTICULARLY DURING THE SUMMER, HOW MANY EMAILS MIKE AND I GOT ON THESE. 'CAUSE EVERY TIME SOMEONE COMPLAINED, PAUL FORWARDED IT TO MIKE AND MYSELF, . AND IT SAYS THE CAC IS WORKING ON WORKING ON THIS. SO THE THING ABOUT THIS IS, WHAT IT HAS HAPPENED IS, UM, IT'S REALLY BECOME A LOSE PROPOSITION FOR US, ASIDE FROM ALL THE WASTED MAN HOURS. WE'RE GETTING NEGATIVE PUBLICITY OUT OF IT. RIGHT. WHICH REALLY ANNOYS ME BECAUSE WE HAD A SOLUTION AND WE BROKEN A SOLUTION WITH TOWN STAFF AND IT'S, YOU'RE GONE. MM-HMM. . SO, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK WE JUST KEEP A LOW PROFILE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. OR, BECAUSE IF YOU SEND ANOTHER EMAIL SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THIS, BUT IF IT GETS SENT CLOSER TO THE MEETING OR COULD IT BE, THERE'S NO TIME TO NOTICE THAT IT WITHOUT, UH, IF WE SEND SOMETHING, WE WOULD SEND THE 27TH, THEY, THEY POST THE AGENDA ON, UM, MAYBE WE CAN JUST GET BOB BERNSTEIN TO OBJECT TO IT ON THE BASIS THAT IT HASN'T BEEN NOTICED. GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT FOR US. I'LL DO IT. OR TIM TERRY, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL DO IT IF YOU WANT ME TO. DOREEN? YEP. DO DOREEN PUT YOUR, PUT YOUR VIDEO ON SO WE CAN SEE YOU, PLEASE. NO, I DON'T LIKE MY VIDEO ON . WELL, I, I, I MEAN, SURE. WHY DON'T YOU GET, WHY DON'T YOU OBJECT TO IT? BECAUSE WE WOULD LOVE TO GET IT VOTED ON, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S LEGAL TO VOTE ON IT. IF YOU SAY I'M, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA HAVE A RESOLUTION ABOUT, UH, UH, REGULATING AUTOMOBILES AND ALL OF A, BUT THE WORDS OF THE THING DOESN'T MENTION THE WORDS AUTOMOBILE. AND WHAT THEY REGULATE IS, UH, SHOOT YOU TRAINS OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, , YOU CAN'T VOTE ON IT. MIKE, MIKE, IF, IF I SEND YOU DOREEN'S EMAIL, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, COULD YOU JUST LIKE CRAFT A COUPLE OF SENTENCES? SO SHE'LL, SHE'LL HAVE IT IN THE PHRASEOLOGY. I'LL SEND HER, YEAH. SEND ME, I'LL SEND HER THE DECEMBER 10. DO YOU HAVE THE BLOWER LAW? DOREEN? NO, I REQUESTED IT, BUT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED IT YET. I, I WAS GARRETT, UH, I REQUESTED IT THE OTHER LAST WEEK. AND, UM, I REQUESTED, DON'T WORRY. I I'LL SEND YOU BOTH THE BLOWER LAW. OKAY. AND THE, AND THE DEFENDANT. 'CAUSE UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A C G C A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I, WE, THIS IS AN ITEM ON OUR, UH, AGENDA. AND I'LL, I'LL YOU EITHER TONIGHT OR TOMORROW, THE BLOWER LAW ON THE DECEMBER 10TH AMENDMENT. AND IT IS, UM, UM, IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WELL, I, I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UH, ELLA'S NOT IN FAVOR OF THE BLOWER LAW, BUT SHE PROBABLY WOULD ALSO PICK UP ON THE FACT IT'S NOT EVEN PROPERLY NOTICED. BOB'S NOT IN FAVOR, BOB'S NOT IN FAVOR OF THE LOWER LAW. OH NO. WHAT'S THE OBJECTION? JUST MY, MY CASTLE. MY KINGDOM. YEP. YOU GOT NO, NO, THAT'S IT. YOU GOT IT. YOU GOT IT. YOU GOT IT. YOU, YOU, YOU GOT IT. OKAY. I MEAN, I GUESS, I MEAN, AND, AND NOT LIKE NECESSARILY, UM, WELL, I DON'T AGREE WITH THE PEOPLE. IT IS A LEGITIMATE POSITION TO HAVE. WHAT ISN'T LEGITIMATE TO ME IS TO NOT HAVE THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS AND MOVE ON. THAT WE EITHER REJECTED IT OR WE ACCEPTED IT. THAT TO ME IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE THING TO DO. AND TO, TO POST IT IN A WAY THAT IT CAN'T BE DEALT WITH IS NOT FAIR BECAUSE IT ISN'T, ASIDE FROM NOT BEING UNFAIR TO US, IT'S UNFAIR TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST IT OR FOR IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO RESOLUTION. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, AND I THANK YOU DOREEN, FOR, FOR DOING THIS FOR US. ALRIGHT. UM, I'M ON THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY, UH, BOARD OR WHATEVER WE CALL OURSELVES. AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AND JERRY OUT, LAID OUT ALL THE REASONS WHY THE PARKS AND REC NEEDED TO BE EXEMPT AND IT MADE PERFECT SENSE. BUT, UH, COMMON [00:15:01] SENSE NEVER SEEMS TO BE, UH, THE CRITERIA FOR ANYTHING IN THIS TOWN. EXCEPTIONS FOR JERRY. AND HE WAS HAPPY WITH THEM. YES, EXACTLY. AND NO ONE ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE OBJECTED TO IT. YEAH. AND HE LAID IT OUT PERFECTLY. YEAH. I MEAN HE, YOU KNOW, HE HAD, HE HAD ISSUES AND NEEDS AND WE ADDRESSED THEM AND, YOU KNOW, HE, AND, AND THE ISSUES AND NEEDS ARE BASED ON SAFETY. EXACTLY. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE MUNICIPALITY SAFETY IS DIFFERENT THAN THE SAFETY ON MY DRIVEWAY IS A DIFF THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAINTAINING ROADS, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY BE PRIVATE ROADS, BUT THEY'RE ROADS AND THEIR ROADS BEING USED BY THE PUBLIC AND THAT'S A REAL ISSUE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO IT WAS A LEGITIMATE, WAS A LEGITIMATE, THE, THE REASONS THAT D P W AND PARKS AND MIX CAME UP WITH WERE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS IN MY OPINION. I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THERE ANYTHING, UM, FROM WHAT I STARTED TO READ, UH, BACK AND FORTH, I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE EXACT COPY OF IT, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT IF A TREE FALLS OR IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH TREES AND WE HAVE A TERRIBLE WINDSTORM OR A TORNADO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CAN WE USE THE LEAF BLOWERS TO CLEAN IT UP? AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S YES. ON BOTH, IF THERE'S A THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT AND I REALLY THINK THAT HAS TO BE BROUGHT OUT, BUT WELL, LEMME ASK YOU THIS. CAN YOU SAY ON BEHALF OF THE PARKS AND REC BOARD, THAT PARKS AND REC BOARD REVIEWED IT WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND THE PARKS AND REC BOARD SUPPORTS IT? I COULD CERTAINLY RUN THAT BY JERRY AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO IT. I MEAN, JERRYS BEEN VERY, JERRY'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN THIS. VERY, VERY HELPFUL. WELL, IT MAKES SENSE. WELL, IT MAKES SENSE FOR SOME OF US. , I'M A GREAT BELIEVER IN COMMON SENSE. YEAH, NO, I MEAN, REALLY WE TRIED TO GO RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND, YOU KNOW, TRY AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS SOMETHING EVERYONE COULD LIVE WITH. UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DEFINITION OF SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S A COMPROMISE THAT'S GOOD IS EVERYONE WALKS AWAY A LITTLE BIT HAPPY AND A LITTLE BIT UNHAPPY. AND I THINK WE HIT THAT POINT WITH THIS. SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE HELP, DOREEN. 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. UM, OKAY, SO I GUESS THE OTHER BIG THING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS NO WOOD. AND YOU, YOU MISSED OUR EARLIER THING WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ELMWOOD AND SHARON, UH, MISHEARD ME AND SUGGESTED THAT WE BURY THE PRO THE PROJECT THERE WE, WHAT, WHY CAN'T WE PUT IT UNDERGROUND? SHE SAID, , DIG A HOLE, PUT IT IN A HOLE, NOBODY WILL IT. NOW WE'RE GONNA GET TO THE WORLD IDEA THAT I THINK IT MIGHT BE RELEVANT IF WE COULD PUT IT IN THE GROUND. AND, UH, I DUNNO HOW WE WANNA APPROACH THIS IN TERMS OF UPDATING EVERYONE. MIKE, UH, DO YOU WANNA TAKE A LEAD OFF BY THE WAY? JUST THIS WE HAVE TALK ABOUT NO, WE OFTEN HAVE TO TALK ABOUT JOE MOORE. OKAY. NEW DEVELOPMENTS TODAY. BUT ANYWAY, NO WOOD. OH, WELL, TERRY AND I HAVE BEEN LIVING THIS FOR A WHILE, SO GOSH, HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE PUT THIS IN A WAY THIS COMMUNICATES EVERYTHING WITHOUT GETTING, BUT THIS IS EAGLE, RIGHT? THIS IS EAGLE, YEAH. YEAH. OUR, OUR DAILY I MISSIVES FROM EVERYBODY. WELL, OKAY. UH, LEMME TRY TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE BUT, AND, AND GET THE DOMINANT STUFF OUT. THE PLANNING BOARD HAS APPEALED THE BUILDING INSPECTORS DETERMINATION THAT THIS WAS AN AUTHORIZED USE OF LAND IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THE Z B A WILL HEAR HAS APPEALED TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. THE Z B A WILL HEAR THAT, I BELIEVE ON FEBRUARY 18TH OR SOMETHING. THAT'S FROM MY MEMORY, SOMETHING CLOSE TO THAT AROUND FEBRUARY 18TH. UH, THE ZBA ONLY MEETS ONCE A MONTH AND NO ONE KNOWS WHETHER THEY WILL MAKE A DECISION ON THAT. UM, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE STATEMENTS BY, UM, UH, THAT, UM, HAVE SAID THAT THE TOWN DOES NOT HAVE A LAW THAT AUTHORIZES BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES. ONE IS IN A LETTER WRITTEN BY THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, WHICH, UM, IT, UH, HERE, WHICH IS STATED TO BE ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN BOARD SAYING THAT, UM, I'VE GOT IT. BUT IT'S SAYING THAT [00:20:01] THE TOWN AT PRESENT DOES NOT HAVE A LAW, UM, UH, AUTHORIZING, UH, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES IN THE TOWN. SO THE TOWN SUPERVISOR WROTE THAT LETTER ON, UH, DECEMBER 30TH AT THE REQUEST OF THE TOWN BOARD. WE HAVE A STATEMENT AT SOME PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THEY ALL MERGE IN MY MIND RIGHT NOW WHERE THE, UH, COMMISSIONER OF, UH, C D N C STATED THAT THE TOWN DOES NOT HAVE A LAW ADDRESSING BATTERY ENERGY FOR STORAGE FACILITIES. AND, UM, THE WHOLE PLANNING BOARD UNANIMOUSLY HAS SAID THEY DON'T BELIEVE THE TOWN HAS A LAW AUTHORIZING BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES. SO THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THE APPEAL WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW. WE ALWAYS HAVE, UH, WE ALWAYS HAVE, UM, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE, AT THE THING THAT THE CROWD IS TERRY? OH, UM, THE, THE, THE SENIOR, THE SENIOR, THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT'S AT THE CROWD. SHE, SHELL, SHE SHELBURNE. WE ALWAYS HAVE SHELBURNE WHERE WE HAVE A LAW THAT SAYS YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE, UH, EMERGENCY VEHICLES GOING THROUGH, UM, TRANSVERSING, UH, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AT ANY LENGTH, MORE THAN 200 FEET. AND THEY AUTHORIZED ABOUT A MILE I KNOW SLIGHTLY OVER, SLIGHTLY UNDER UNKNOWN MILE. SO, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT THE CBO DO. UM, S SEPARATELY FROM THAT. OH, AND, AND BY THE WELL, SEPARATELY FROM THAT, THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO, FOR THE TOWN TO ADOPT A MORATORIUM ON ALL APPLICATIONS FOR BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES, WIND FARMS, AND, UH, SOLAR FARMS THAT ARE NOT COMPLETED BY JANUARY 1ST, 2021, THE ONLY BATTERY INJURY STORAGE FACILITY, SOLAR FARM WIND FARM APPLICATION IS COMPLETED. UM, BY THAT DATE WAS NORWOOD. SO IF ADOPTED THE MORATORIUM, UM, WOULD PREVENT ANY NEW APPLICATIONS WHILE WE HIRED AN EXPERT AND HAD TIME TO STUDY THIS AND PROPOSE A NEW LAW, UH, FOR THESE, UH, TYPE OF FACILITIES. UM, UH, PAUL FINDER STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE MORATORIUM. KEN JONES STRONG SUPPORTS THE MORATORIUM. UH, FRANCIS SHEHAN APPARENTLY DOES NOT SUPPORT THE MOR MORATORIUM. I DON'T KNOW THE POSITION OF GINA AND THE POSITION OF, UH, DIANA. UM, UM, A COMMITTEE WAS FORMED THAT MET WITH GARRETT ON BY ZOOM. TERRY AND I WERE ON THAT, UH, UH, WALTER AND HUGH WERE ON IT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. UM, MET WAS ZOOM AND FRANCIS CHIAN AND KEN JONES. AND THERE MAY HAVE BEEN. AND, AND COLIN MCCARTHY, WHO IS PRESIDENT, THE E C C, MAYBE I'M LEAVING SOMEBODY OUT, UH, BY ZOOM ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF MORE TERM. WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSION. UM, UM, AND UM, THE TOWN BOARD WAS SUPPOSED TO LAST NIGHT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING A APPOINTMENT COMMITTEE, UH, THEY DISCUSSED HAVING A COMMITTEE. THEY FAILED A APPOINT A COMMITTEE. AND SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THERE'LL BE A COMMITTEE, A COMMITTEE OR NOT. UH, MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT WILLING TO DO THIS WITHOUT A TOWN BOARD APPOINTMENT. UH, SO, UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW. BUT MEANWHILE, JUST MEANWHILE, GARRETT HAS SENT US OUT AN INVITATION FOR ANOTHER MEETING. RIGHT? AND SOME, AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE SUGGESTED TO, UH, GARRETT IN THE TOWN BOARD THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR CITIZENS TO BE INTERFACING WITH APPLICANTS, ACTUAL APPLICANTS LIKE NORWOOD AND POTENTIAL APPLICANTS LIKE I P P SOLAR WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION FROM THE TOWN BOARD BECAUSE THE LIABILITY ISSUES ON DOING THAT, NONE OF US SPEAK FROM THE TOWN UNLESS APPOINTED BY THE TOWN BOARD. SO, UH, AND HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT GARRETT DEFER HIS MEETING UNTIL AFTER THE TOWN BOARD DECIDES WHAT TO DO NEXT TUESDAY. SO, SO, UM, THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT I, I REALLY LIKE TO READ IT TO YOU GUYS. LEMME, LEMME TRY TO FIND THIS. OKAY. IN THE MEAN MEANTIME, UM, I ATTENDED VA VIA ZOOM TODAY A, UM, PRESENTATION BY FEDERA WESTCHESTER FEDERATED CONSERVATIONISTS ON SOLAR FARMS AND SOLAR. [00:25:01] AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING IN TERMS OF, NO ONE IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE KIND OF THING THAT EAGLE ENERGY IS SUGGESTING WHEN THEY WERE TALKING STRICTLY ABOUT SOLAR. AND THEY REALLY HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN INTO BATTERIES. EVEN THOUGH MANY OF THESE SITES, SOME OF THESE TOWNS HAVE, UM, ACTUAL SOLAR FIELDS OF MORE THAN AN ACRE. UM, WHICH WAS INTERESTING. SO IT WAS AN INTERESTING PRESENTATION. AND CENIC HUDSON HAS A TOOL THAT IS USEFUL FOR DECIDING HOW TO, UM, DEVELOP, UH, LAWS AROUND SOLAR AND UH, SOLAR FIELDS AND WHATNOT. SO I WILL BE SENDING YOU, AND THAT'S GONNA BE I THINK ON THE 21ST OF THE MONTH. I WILL FORWARD YOU AFTER THIS MEETING, THE, UM, EMAIL. SO IF YOU WANNA ATTEND THAT, YOU CAN SIGN UP. IT'S AN EVENING, UM, PRESENTATION. IT STARTS AT FIVE, SO IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE VIABLE FOR SOME OF YOU. UM, THEY SEEM TO REALLY BE WORKING A LOT ON THIS. WHAT I DID TAKE AWAY FROM IT, UH, TODAY'S MEETING WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF CONSIDERATION FOR, UM, AESTHETICS WHERE THESE THINGS WERE SOLAR FIELDS WERE BEING PLACED, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. UM, SO IT WAS VERY INTERESTING, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE PUTTING THEM IN, UM, THEY WERE BEING VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THE SIZE OF THEM IN RELATION TO WHERE THEY WERE GOING. THE BUFFERS, TWO OF THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE LAWS. BUT WHAT REALLY STRUCK ME IS THEY HAVEN'T NEARLY EVEN BEGUN TO DEAL WITH THE BATTERIES FROM A SOLAR APPLICATION, MUCH LESS SOMETHING AS ROBUST AS WHAT WE'RE FACING WITH EAGLE. UM, THE COUNTY IS PUTTING A LOT OF ENERGY INTO, UM, PUTTING SOLAR ON THE TOPS OF ALL THE COUNTY BUILDINGS AND PROBABLY CAR PORTING PARKING LOTS, SEEING THAT AS THE MOST VIABLE PLACE TO PUT THE SOLAR PANELS, UH, GOING FORWARD. AND, UM, SOMEONE ACTUALLY ASKED WHAT'S THE COUNTY'S PLAN TO GET ALL OF THE BUSINESSES ON CENTRAL AVENUE TO HAVE SOLAR PANELS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS AN INTERESTING QUESTION SINCE LARGE PARTS OF CENTRAL AVENUE IS IN GREENBURG. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE OTHERS WERE. AND WHAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING, JUST VIS-A-VIS SIZE, UM, WAS THAT THERE WAS A FELLOW THERE WHO DOES THE SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATIONS, NOT JUST THE HOUSES BUT THE BIG ONES. AND HE WAS GIVING SOME IDEA OF UM, WHAT AN ACRE OF, UM, AN ACRE OF ROOFTOP SOLAR COULD PROVIDE ELECTRIC FOR, UM, 150 HOMES. AND, UM, IF IT WAS ON THE GROUND, IT WOULD BE FOR ABOUT 200 HOMES. AND THIS WAS WHAT REALLY INTERESTED ME. UM, THE THREE PROJECTS IN MOUNT KISCO, ONE OF WHICH IS COMPLETED, UM, WHICH IS AN ACRE AND A HALF, IS PROVIDING 0.75 MEGAWATTS OF ELECTRICITY. THE ONE THAT'S PROPOSED THAT'S FOUR ACRES IS GONNA PROVIDE 1.7 MEGAWATTS AND ONE THAT IS 6.5 ACRES IS GONNA PROVIDE 2.5 MEGAWATTS. AND I BELIEVE THE EAGLE, UM, APPLICATION IS EIGHT MEGAWATTS, 20 MEGAWATTS, I'M SORRY, 20 20, 20 MEGAWATTS. SO THAT GOES TO WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT OF SIZING, THAT THIS IS REALLY IN TERMS OF SOLAR ENERGY AND STORAGE, A VERY BIG APPLICATION COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY. YEAH. BUT TERRY, I MEAN IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT, YOU GOTTA DEFINE WHAT YOU MEAN BY IMPACT BECAUSE THE BATTERIES, A 20 MEGAWATT BATTERY INSTALLATION IS TINY COMPARED TO A, UH, UH, A SOLAR FIELD THAT THEN GENERATES 20 MEGAWATTS. I WELL, YEAH, WELL THESE, THE, THE BIGGEST ONE IS 2.7. BUT I THINK MY, MY POINT WAS THAT IN TERMS OF SAFETY ISSUES AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AND THAT NOBODY IS DEALING WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT GREENBERG HAS TO RESOLVE AT THIS POINT. SO THAT I SEE. OKAY. YEAH, HOPEFULLY THERE'S NOBODY WHO'S HAD THAT EXPERIENCE TO MIKE YOU BACK. YEAH, I FOUND THIS LETTER. HERE'S A LETTER FROM PAUL ON NOVEMBER 30TH THAT SAYS THE TOWN DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZING BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEMS. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, UM, IS CONSISTENT [00:30:01] WITH THE APPEAL THAT THE PLANNING BOARD MADE. UM, AND THEN THE LETTER GOES ON TO SAY THAT THE TOWN WILL ADOPT A LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT AND WILL DO SO IN ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS, PRESUMABLY FROM DECEMBER 30TH, 2020. SO, AND WE'RE SPO THE MORATORIUM IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A STUDY SO WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO DO, YOU KNOW, WHERE TO SITE, WHERE NOT TO DECIDE WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT ARE HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH AND ADDRESSED AND HOW TO ADDRESS 'EM, WHAT SAFETY STAND, WHAT THERE ARE, PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF THINGS LIKE, UH, UM, TOXIC FUMES, UM, UM, ELECTRICITY IN THE WATER THAT YOU USE TO PUT OUT A FIRE. 'CAUSE IT TAKES A LOT OF WATER. AND THEN WHAT, UH, WALTER, UH, GRODEN, UM, HAS TOLD US ABOUT, WHICH I NEVER HEARD ABOUT SOMETHING CALLED STRANDED ELECTRICITY, WHICH IS ELECTRICITY THAT'S LEFT IN THE BATTERY, UH, AFTER THE FIRE. SO, UH, BECAUSE IT'S SMALL PROBABILITY OF A FIRE, BUT YOU, BUT, UM, SO ANYWAY, SO PAUL WROTE THIS LETTER THAT WE WILL ADOPT A LAW THAT WILL AUTHORIZE THIS. AND UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHO, WHO DID HE WRITE THAT TO? WHO'D HE WRITE IT TO? HE WROTE IT TO ERTA. OH. UH, WITH A COPY AT THE REQUEST OF, UH, THE NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB. AND SO THIS SEEMS TO SUGGEST NO MATTER WHAT WE LEARN IN THE STUDY AND WHAT KINDA STANDARDS WE'D WANNA PUT, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS PROJECT, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS PROJECT. OKAY. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, OF COURSE IS ONCE YOU MAKE THIS PROJECT, OKAY, THEN HOW DO YOU TELL ANYONE ELSE THAT DOESN'T, THAT HAS A SIMILAR PROJECT, THEY CAN'T DO IT. AND THIS IS IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. SO, UM, THAT IS SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TO DO SOME EDU WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO HELP PAUL GET MORE EDUCATED ABOUT IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THE LETTER HAS BEEN SENT. I AM WRITING ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, RIGHT? WITH RESPECT TO THE ABOVE REFERENCED APPLICATION THAT IS PENDING BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD. AND HE JUST SAID, WE WILL DO IT AND WE'LL DO IT IN FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS. WELL, CAN THAT BE CONTESTED IN THE SENSE THAT HE'S MAKING A DECISION THAT HASN'T HAD PUBLIC, PUBLIC, UH, HEARING THE TOWN IS GOING TO GET SUED IF WE DO NOT APPROVE THIS WITHIN FOUR. AND WORST THING IS IT IS IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. I KNOW. NO, ALL EVERYONE'S ALWAYS SAID ONE GIVES A CRAP ABOUT 1.6 ACRES ON THE EDGE OF A CON OF A GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL AREAS. BUT ONCE YOU DO IT THERE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, YOU DO IT IN HARTSDALE. WELL, IT DOESN'T SAY, IT DOESN'T SAY IT'S GOING TO APPROVE THE, UM, UH, THE, THE PROJECT IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. YES IT DOES. WHAT? WHAT? NO, NO. WAIT, WHAT IF WE, WHAT IF, WHAT IF THAT AREA WAS REZONED? MAYBE YOU HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT IT SAYS IT WILL ADOPT A LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND. SO IF, IF, IF THAT'S A COMMITMENT AND THE TOWN WILL GET SUED, IF IT DOESN'T FULFILL THE COMMITMENT, THEN IT SEEMS TO ME THE TACK HAS TO BE TO REZONE THAT PARCEL SO THAT IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL SO THAT IT DOESN'T SET A PRECEDENT. YEAH, MAYBE. BUT THAT COULD ALSO THEN ARE YOU'RE GONNA REZONE ALL OF THE GOLF COURSES. NO, YOU JUST HAVE TO REZONE THE PARCEL THAT THE UM, THEN YOU'VE GOT THE ISSUE OF SPOT ZONING, THEN YOU DO HAVE A SPOT ZONING ISSUE. YOU'RE RIGHT. BUT US, WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT THEY'RE RENTING THE LAND. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS INTO THE REZONE 'CAUSE THEY DON'T OWN THE LAND. I DON'T KNOW. I I LEARNED ABOUT THIS GUYS AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE LAST FOUR HOURS OR SEVEN MINUTES I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO OUT WHAT TO DO. SO WHO'S GONNA SUE NORWOOD OR THE APPLICANT OR BOTH? BOTH THE, THE APPLICANT AND NORWOOD. IF WE DON'T, UH, APPROVE IT, THE ONLY POSSIBLE POSSIBLE D S X MACIA SOLUTION I CAN SEE IS IF NYSERDA DOESN'T GIVE 'EM THE MONEY AND THEY WALK. 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. WELL IT HIS, THEY WON'T WALK. TERRY AND HIS WIFE THERE IS SOMEONE WE DON'T KNOW WHO, BUT I GOT A BIG GUESS AS TO WHO HAS GOT AN OPTION TO TAKE OVER THE MANAGEMENT OF THE CLUB. NOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PAYING MONEY TO TAKE OVER A DEFUNCT COUNTRY CLUB WHOSE ONLY LIFELINE IS A LEASE? IS [00:35:01] THIS LEASE ON THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITY, WHICH HAS BEEN STATED ON THE PUBLIC RECORD TO BE THE EQUIVALENT OF HAVING 10 NEW MEMBERS. 10 NEW MEMBERS IS UNLIKELY TO SAVE THE COUNTRY CLUB. SO WHY IS SOMEONE TAKING OVER THE MANAGEMENT OF THIS AT THE SAME TIME SOMEONE HAS GOT AN OPTION TO BUY THE WHOLE A HUNDRED ACRES. IS IT POSSIBLE BY ANY CHANCE THAT THE PERSON THAT'S TAKING IT OVER AT A FUNK COUNTRY CLUB TO MANAGE IT AND PAYING MONEY TO DO SO AND SOMEONE IS BUYING AN OPTION FOR THE WHOLE A HUNDRED ACRES IS MAYBE RELATED TO STRATA ALL PART OF THE SAME CORPORATE FAMILY. AND AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS OF LETTING THEM PLAY GOLF, THEY SAY OOPS, WELL IT'S TOO BAD. YOU KNOW, THE GOLF INDUSTRY AIN'T SO GOOD. GUESS WE CAN'T MANAGE THIS THING SUCCESSFULLY. WE'RE GONNA EXERCISE OUR OPTION TO BUY A HUNDRED ACRES. AND GUESS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT A HUNDRED ACRES? I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE IT OPEN. I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE SOLAR FARMS, WIND FARMS, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME MORE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES TO PUT ALL THAT ENERGY. AND YOU CAN'T DENY IT 'CAUSE YOU ALREADY APPROVED IT. IT'S MUCH MORE HERE THAN WE KNOW. AND THIS THING IN MY IN, I'M GUESSING, BUT MY GUESS IS THIS AIN'T ABOUT 1.6 ACRES. RIGHT? STRATUS STAND STAND AROUND HERE. YOU KNOW, THEY AIN'T WALKING. THAT'S MY GUESS. IN FACT, THEY, THEY SAID ON THE, ON THE PUBLIC HEARING LAST NIGHT, OH, WE WANNA WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THE NO WOOD WROTE A LETTER, UH, A WEEK AGO. OH, WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO US PAUL IS TERRIBLE. YOU'RE GONNA LOSE THE COUNTRY CLUB. IT IS ABSOLUTELY ALMOST CERTAIN THAT STRATA'S GONNA WALK AWAY. THEY SAID LAST NIGHT THEY WEREN'T WALKING AWAY. THEY WANNA WORK WITH THE CLUB. OF COURSE THEY DO. THEY WANT 100 ACRES, 100 ACRES OF LAND IN SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER. PEOPLE WOULD KILL FOR THAT. AND YOU KNOW, AND THEY, THEY KEEP TALKING, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT KEEPS COMING UP ABOUT SAVING THE COUNTRY CLUB. AND THE ISSUE HERE, JUST TO REITERATE WHAT MIKE IS SAYING IS IT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THIS COUNTRY CLUB WILL BE SAVED AS A COUNTRY CLUB, RIGHT? 'CAUSE I KNOW SOME OF PAUL'S COMMENTS IS, OH, BUT THEY'LL GET HOUSES. WELL, YOU KNOW, I WONDER IF THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR CHOICES HOUSES OR THOSE PICTURES THAT MONA PROVIDED TO US OF JUST FIELDS OF RABBLE WITH, WITH, UM, DEVICES ON THEM. AND THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS, AND WHY ANYWHERE AND YES, SHARON, WOULD YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? I DIDN'T WELL, I JUST SAID WAS THAT, DO WE KIND OF REITERATE WHAT MIKE IS SAYING IS THAT THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OH, WE WANT THE COUNTRY CLUB SAVED. AND THE REALITY IS THE COUNTRY CLUB IS NOT SAVEABLE. IT'S IT'S ON LIFE SUPPORT AND YOU ARE NOT GONNA REVIVE IT. WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY SEE IS WHEN WE GET ALL DONE OF ALL THE COUNTRY CLUBS WE HAVE, A FEW OF THEM WILL SURVIVE 'CAUSE THE MEMBERSHIPS WILL MERGE. BUT THERE ISN'T THE MEMBERSHIP THERE TO SURVIVE IT. THERE'S ALREADY AN OPTION TO BID. THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED NO WOOD REAL ESTATE. AND I DON'T THINK MOST OF THESE PEOPLE IN THE AREA UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING, WHICH IS WHAT MIKE IS SAYING IS THEY'LL GET IN THERE, THEY'LL CLOSE DOWN THE COUNTRY CLUB AND THEY WILL COME BACK AND THEY WILL COVER THE THING WITH ENERGY TYPE ACTIVITIES ON THAT AREA. SO THEIR CHOICE REALLY ISN'T THIS HAVING THE COUNTRY CLUB SURVIVE OR HOUSES, THEIR CHOICE IS HOUSES FOR AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. AND THAT IS NOT REALLY THE WAY IT IS BEING PRESENTED OR PERCEIVED BECAUSE, WHICH IS WHY I SENT A LETTER TODAY TO PAUL ASKING HIM TO DEMAND TO SEE, WELL, NO, WELL, NORWOOD SAID THEY WOULD QUOTE OPEN THEIR BOOKS RIGHT TO THE TOWN. SO I SENT A LETTER TO PAUL, AN EMAIL TO PAUL, THEY'RE DEMANDING TO SEE THIS MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, THIS NEW MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT TO MANAGE THIS DEFUNCT CLUB MAKES NO DAMN BUSINESS SENSE AND THIS OPTION TO BUY, IT MAKES NO DAMN BUSINESS SENSE UNLESS YOU TIE IT TO THE OPTION TO BUY THE WHOLE LAND. RIGHT. AND UM, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND I SAID, LOOK, YOU, WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT AND TOTALITY OF WHAT RING MASTER FOOD, BUT UH, BY THE WAY, DOREEN, UH, I HAVE, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THIS LETTER FROM, UH, THE SUPERVISOR IS ON THE TOWN WEBSITE DATED DECEMBER 30TH IS SUPPOSED TO BE, I ASSUME IT'S UNDER, UH, IT'S UNDER TB, UH, WHATEVER THE HELL THE NUMBER IS FOR NO ORDER. YES, I'VE READ THAT LETTER. OH, YOU HAVE READ IT? MM-HMM. IT MAKE [00:40:01] YOU FEEL WARM AND CUDDLY. DOREEN. ABSOLUTELY. AND I I I JUST WANT TO, THIS IS AN OFFSHOOT THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE BATTERIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, STORING FROM WHERE THEY SAY, OH, THEY'RE BUYING. I CAN TELL YOU IT'S GOING, IT'S, IT'S REAL SIMPLE. IT'S REAL SIMPLE. THEY BUY ENERGY AT OFF PEAK PERIODS LIKE 2:00 AM IN THE MORNING OFF THE CONED GRID, JUST CHEAP. BUY IT CHEAP. AND THEY'VE STORED IN THESE BATTERIES AND THEY SELL IT BACK AT 2:00 PM ON A HOT SUMMER DAY WHEN THEIR PRICE IS VERY, WHEN THE PRICE FOR PURCHASING ENERGY IS VERY HOT. ONE OF THESE FACILITIES IN AUSTRALIA. VERY, ONE OF THE VERY FAMOUS THINGS, UH, IN AUSTRALIA, ONE OF THESE FACILITIES, IT'S A HUGE FACILITY IN THE MIDDLE OF NO PLACE SAID, WHAT DON'T YOU SEE WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PICTURE OF THE FACILITY IN AUSTRALIA IS YOU DON'T, NOT ONLY YOU SEE ANY COW HOUSES, YOU DON'T SEE ANY KANGAROOS. NOTHING IS AROUND THIS THING. IN TWO DAYS THEY MADE $800,000 TWO YEARS AGO DOING A HEAT, UH, A HEAT WAVE IN AUSTRALIA. SO THE CONCEPT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S UM, IT'S GREEN GOODS, YOU KNOW, YOU BUY YOURSELF HIGH, YOU MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, , IT'S NOT HARD. OR THEY DIDN'T SEE, I, I BELIEVE LIKE YOU WHAT YOU JUST STATED, THAT THEY PLAN ON GOING ONE STEP FURTHER AND PURCHASING THE NORWOOD COUNTRY CLUB AND THEREFORE THEY WILL HAVE THEIR SUPPLY THEN TO HOOK UP TO THESE BATTERIES. AND THAT WILL BE A MEGA FORCE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SELL IT BACK TO, UH, CONED. YEAH. EXCEPT IT WON'T BE JUST THESE BATTERIES. THESE AREN'T ENOUGH. THEY'LL NEED A LOT MORE. OH, ABSOLUTELY IT WILL, YOU'RE RIGHT. AND IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF EITHER SOLAR PANELS AND, AND WIND TURBINES AND, AND THE WHOLE THING. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT TERRY IS SAYING, THE PEOPLE IN NO WORLD ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, DILUTING THEM HAVE BEEN DILUTED AND OH, THEY ALL BEING DILUTED. YES, YES. BUT THE REASON, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO DEMAND TO SEE THESE DOCUMENTS BECAUSE IF WE CAN SEE THESE DOCUMENTS, THE, YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT. WELL, YOU KNOW, THE C G C A ALSO FILED AN APPEAL WITH THE Z B A. NO, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. OH, YES. AND WE WILL BE WORKING, UM, AT LEAST SIDE BY SIDE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CONJUNCTION WITH, BUT AT LEAST WE WILL BE THERE ALONG WITH THE PLANNING BOARD IN APPEALING THIS. YEAH, BUT UNDERSTAND DURING THIS ONE THING, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND, JUST, I KNOW IT'S HARD, BUT LISTEN, EVEN IF YOU WIN AT THE Z B A, THE SUPERVISOR HAS PROMISED THEM A NEW LAW WITHIN FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS. IT ISN'T OVER IF YOU WIN AT THE Z B A I AGREE. I AGREE. BECAUSE NOW IT USED TO BE IF IT WAS OVER AT THE Z B A, IT WAS OVER AND THEN WE HAD, WE WERE GONNA HAVE A MORATORIUM AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE CONDITIONS OF A NEW, THERE WOULD BE A NEW LAW, BUT THERE WOULD BE, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT IT IS RATHER, HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS? AND WE LOOK AT, UNTIL IT GETS STUDIED, THE SUPERVISOR HAS NOW PROMISED THEM A NEW LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT. DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE STUDY SAYS THAT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH, JUST TO SAY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE, UH, THE BRIGHTVIEW TARRYTOWN. YEAH. SOMEONE CAME IN AND WE MADE A LAW AND THEN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED, UH, WITH THE C C F, THEY WANTED SOMETHING. SO WE MADE A LAW AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. THEY WANT IT AND WE'LL MAKE A LAW. AND THAT'S WHAT THE IT'S IN, RIGHT? WHERE YOU'VE READ THE LETTERS IN THE PAGE TWO, THE TOP OF PAGE TWO MM-HMM. , WE ADOPT A LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT. THOSE WORDS ARE NOT AMBIGUOUS. DID HE, DID HE HAVE, DID HE TAKE A, A VOTE AMONG THE, THE TOWN BOARD PEOPLE? IS THERE ANYTHING ON RECORD IN WHICH HE STATES, UH, WHICH HE CAN PROVE THIS IS WHAT THE TOWN BOARD WANTS? WELL, I, THE FIRST SENTENCE, WHICH IS WHAT HE WANTS, DOREEN. THAT'S, THAT'S NOT FAIR. DOREEN, THE FIRST READ THE FIRST SENTENCE, I'M WRITING ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. READ THE FIRST SENTENCE NOW MAYBE WHAT TO DOREEN'S POINT, SUPPOSE SOME MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARDS, LIKE KEN SAID, I NEVER AGREED TO THAT OR PROMISED THAT IN A LAWSUIT IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. DOESN'T, OKAY. MAYBE MAY, MAYBE, MAYBE KEN'S GOT A FIGHT WITH PAUL, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, THE PE THE PEOPLE THAT RECEIVED THIS, UH, ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, OFFICE OF TOWN SUPERVISOR LETTER SAYING, I'M WRITING ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN BOARD. THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOOK BY AFTER PAUL'S AUTHORIZATIONS. THEY [00:45:01] HAVE A RIGHT TO RELY ON THAT. JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT LAND ATMORE HAD THE RIGHT TO RELY ON THE ZONING MAP, EVEN IF IT WAS WRONG. IT'S THE ONLY WAY GOVERNMENT CAN WORK IF YOU RELY ON THE PUBLIC RECORD. YOU KNOW? NOW IF PAUL DID SOMETHING HE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT'S INTERNAL WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, BUT IF WE DON'T GIVE HIM THIS, WE'RE GONNA GET SUED AND, AND LOSE. NOT JUST GET SUED. YOU CAN GET SUED AND CRAPPY THINGS DOESN'T MATTER. BUT IT DOES MATTER. YOU HAVE TO DEFEND. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU SUED FOR CRAPPY THINGS. I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE, THE LETTER THAT, UH, EAGLE OR STRATA, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS, NOVEMBER IN 2019, AND WHICH IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT POSSIBLY A ZONING CODE HAS TO BE, OR ZONING ORDINANCE HAS TO BE DONE. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN FOR 10 MONTHS, NOTHING WAS HEARD. AND THEN THEY CAME IN. SO THEY KNEW REALLY THAT A ZONING ORDINANCE HAD TO BE NOT JUST A SPECIAL PERMIT. AND FOR THEM NOW TO COME BACK AND SAY TO US, WELL, WE ARE GOING TO SUE YOU. I JUST FIND IT JUST NOT, IT DOESN'T MATTER. DOESN'T MATTER. I HEAR DOREEN LIFE STARTED ANEW OF THE TRAIN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THERE'S A NEW PLATFORM CREATED. WHAT YOU SAID WOULD'VE BEEN TRUE WOULD'VE BEEN RELEVANT AND TRUE ABSENT THE DECEMBER 30TH LETTER. MIKE, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES, MA'AM. HEY, HEY DONNA, I, I PULLED THE LETTER UP RIGHT NOW AND I SEE THAT IT SAYS THE TOWN BOARD ANTICIPATES THAT IT SHOULD BE IN A POSITION TO ADOPT A LOCAL LAW AND RENDER A SEEKER DETERMINATION RELATED TO THE PROJECT IN ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS. YEP. CAN'T THAT DETERMINATION BE THAT THE PROJECT CAN'T GO FORWARD? NO. OKAY. KEEP READING. NO, KEEP READING THE PARAGRAPH BEFORE PLEASE. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THE WHOLE LETTER? NO, BUT JUST READ THE PARAGRAPH BEFORE THE SECOND SENTENCE OF THE PARAGRAPH BEFORE TO THAT END, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS, SO THAT THE TOWN BOARD CAN ADOPT? NO, BUT MAYBE I'M NOT IN THE RIGHT PARAGRAPH. DO YOU SEE A PARAGRAPH THAT START EAGLE ENERGY HAS REPRESENTED? YES. UH, EAGLE ENERGY HAS REPRESENTED THAT. IF IT IS UNABLE, GO TO THE LAST THREE LINES, DONNA, OF THAT PARAGRAPH TOWARDS THE END, IT STARTS SO THAT THE TOWN BOARD TO THAT END, THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY REQUESTS THAT NYSERDA CONSIDER EXTENDING THE DEADLINE FOR EAGLE ENERGY TO BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THE REMAINING 2020 NYSERDA INCENTIVES SO THAT THE TOWN BOARD CAN ADOPT A LOCAL RIGHT, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT HERE. READ THIS SLOWLY SO THAT, SO THAT THE TOWN BOARD CAN ADOPT A LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT AND RENDER A DETERMINATION PURSUANT TO THE SEEKER AS LEAD AGENCY. YEAH. AND THE ONLY, ONLY DETERMINATION THAT COULD BE CONSISTENT WITH ADOPTING A LOCAL LAW IS AN N DECK. JESUS. WAS THIS JUST IN MIKE? WAS THIS JUST INADVERTENT SLOPPINESS? UH, UH UH, PETER, HOLD ON. JUST WHY? I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT DONNA UNDERSTANDS. I I, I SEE WHERE PETER'S GOING. IT SOUNDS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY MEANT TO PUT THEMSELVES INTO THIS HOLE, RIGHT? I'M, UH, MY, MY INSTINCT IS, OH, NEVERMIND, I'M NOT, I'M . OF COURSE THEY DIDN'T MEAN TO, THEY THEY DIDN'T THINK IT THROUGH. IT WAS A POLITICAL LETTER DESIGNED TO HELP. THERE WAS A POLITICAL LETTER DESIGNED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY CLUB WHO ARE DELUDED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO, MIKE, LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING ELSE THEN. CAN PAUL FOLLOW UP WITH A LETTER TO NICE ERDA SAYING, UM, WANNA CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE? IT WAS NEVER THE INTENT OF THE TOWN TO GUARANTEE THAT A TOWN LAW WOULD BE PASSED. THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT OLD AND THE, AND THE SHORTER THE TIME THAT EAGLE HAS TO RELY ON IT, THE LESS THE DAMAGES, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE INVESTMENT OR WHAT THEY GET, [00:50:01] WHAT THEY GET TO CLAIM AS DAMAGES ARE MUCH, ARE, ARE LIMITED. UM, WHAT ABOUT A CLARIFYING LETTER? I DON'T KNOW, PETER. I THINK THAT STARTS THE WHOLE THING. IT'S THE SLIPPERY SLOPE. YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE SLOPE. WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. I I WOULDN'T WANT, I DON'T KNOW EITHER. I'M JUST ASK THE LAWYER . I WOULD HATE TO, UM, I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. BUT MY, MY, MY GUT IS PETER, AS LOGICAL AS THAT IS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTION NYSERDA HAS TAKEN IN THE INTERIM. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT STEPS, WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH FACTS AS TO WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE IN RELIANCE UPON THE LETTER. I DON'T KNOW. WELL, ALL I KNOW IS THAT IF THEY, IF PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN ACTIONS ON, IN RELIANCE OF THE LETTER AND THE FEAR IS A LAWSUIT THAT IN THE SH IN THE COURSE OF THREE WEEKS, THE DAMAGES THAT THEY COULD HAVE, UM, UH, SUFFERED BECAUSE THEY ACTED IN RELIANCE ON THE, ON THE LETTER ARE SMALL. NO, NO. THE LONGER THAT SITS OUT THERE, THE LETTER, THE LETTER, THE LETTER IS TO NYSERDA, RIGHT? SO THE NYSERDA ANOTHER LETTER TO NYSERDA. SO THAT NYSERDA WILL GIVE MONEY TO THE APPLICANT. NO. SO THAT NYSERDA WILL HOLD OPEN THIS, UM, THE GRANT, RIGHT? THE GRANTS, THEY GIVE MONEY, RIGHT? THEY GIVE MONEY THAT MONEY. OKAY. SO, SO PAUL CAN SAY WE WANT NYSERDA TO CONTINUE TO, UM, HOLD OPEN THE GRANT. HOWEVER, WE WANNA CLARIFY THAT THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE TOWN WILL PASS A LAW. THE TOWN HAS TO GO THROUGH ITS NORMAL PROCESS AND SO ON AND SO ON. AND HOW BIG IS THE, HOW BIG IS THE GRANT? I MEAN, WOULDN'T IT PAY TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF DAMAGES? I MEAN IF IT'S, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A SMALL GRANT, IF IT'S 120. HUH? IT'S NOT SMALL GRANT. I LOOKED AT IT ONE TIME. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. DAMAGES WOULDN'T BE LIMITED TO THE, UH, WELL, DAMAGES ARE LIMITED TO THE, UH, UM, TO THE, UH, UM, HARM SUFFERED, RIGHT? WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY THE GRANT MONEY, IT'S ALSO THE LOSS OF PROFITS. THE LOSS OF, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROFITS RIGHT NOW, MIKE. RIGHT? BUT THE BUT IT'S THE POTENTIAL WAS THE POTENTIAL FOR IT ANYWAY. THIS IS GETTING BEYOND WHAT I THINK WE, RIGHT. RIGHT. SO WHAT CAN WE DO? WE ARE THE C A C AND WE SHOULD IN, WE SHOULD, WE ARE THE C A C ON. WHAT WE CAN SHOULDN'T DO IS INSIST UPON A FAIR AND NON FAIR AND NON PRECLUDED. E I S MIKE, WE DO ENVIRONMENT. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE IDEA OF, UH, NOEL WOOD OPENS THEIR BOOKS. LOOK AT THIS MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, THEN WHAT? WELL, IF IT'S THE CASE, MARGARET, THAT THIS THING IS NOT ABOUT 1.6 ACRES, BUT IT'S ABOUT 100 ACRES. WELL, I MEAN, HOW ARE YOU GONNA PROVE THAT YOU JUST, THAT'S THAT YOU'RE GONNA INS WELL, THE, THE PER, THE PERSON THAT HAS THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WILL HAVE A NAME. IT'LL BE A CORPORATION. RIGHT. AND THE PERSON THAT HAS THE OPTION TO BUY THE COMPANY HAS THE OPTION TO BUY THE LAND, HAS A CORPORATE NAME. YEAH. NOW WHAT IF WE FIND OUT THEY'RE ALL NORTH CAROLINA COMPANIES? RIGHT? RIGHT. THEN WHAT? THEN, THEN, THEN WE, WE ASK STRATA, WHAT'S YOUR INTEREST IN THESE OTHER COMPANIES? AND THEN WE FIND OUT IT'S ALL THE SAME. WE SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS SE QA SAYS WHEN YOU'RE ANALYZING THINGS IN THE SE, YOU CANNOT SEGMENT ACTIONS AND ACTIONS INCLUDE, OKAY. ALL OF THE ACTIONS, SHORT RANGE AND LONG RANGE. AND SO YOU THEN WOULD HAVE TO ANALYZE IN THE C Q A THE IMPACT OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THE WHOLE HUNDRED ACRES, NOT JUST 1.6 ACRES. NOW, THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANSWER, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT IS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THE TOWN HAS JUST PROMISED THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO THE PROJECT. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT MUCH AMBI AMBIGUITY. I'M TELLING YOU FROM A LITIGATOR'S POINT OF VIEW, THERE'S NOT MUCH AMBIGUITY IN THE WORDS ADOPT LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT. HOW COULD TIM LET THIS GO BY? TERRY WILL ANSWER THAT NOT ON TAPE. NICE MIKE. NOT ON LIKE BEING THE VICE CHAIR. RIGHT? THAT'S A CHAIR. THAT'S, THAT'S FOR A CHAIR TO RESPOND HERE. THAT'S A NOT ON HEY GRADE. I, I THINK TERRY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY MY, I GUESS I KNOW, I BELIEVE I KNOW THE ANSWER. NO, IT IS NOT, IT IS [00:55:01] POSSIBLE. TIM DID NOT. IF YOU STUDY THIS LETTER, I'VE READ THIS LETTER SINCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THREE O'CLOCK. I'VE READ IT THREE OR FOUR TIMES. THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IS AN A PLUS, THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IS AN A AND THEN IT JUST GOES TO HELL. SO IT IS POSSIBLE TIM WROTE THE RIGHT LETTER AND THEN SOMEONE ADDED ON POLITICALLY EAGLE STORAGE. IT'S POSSIBLE. TIM WROTE THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IS EXCELLENT. THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IS, YOU KNOW, VERY CLOSE TO EXCELLENT, IN MY OPINION. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT TIM NEVER SAW THE LETTER? NO. I THINK TIM SAW THE LETTER HE CC'D ON IT. OH MY GOD. CC WOW. THAT'S VERY DISCOURAGING. I MEAN, DOES THE MERE FACT THAT ANYONE WOULD SAY IN ADVANCE WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE? DONNA, DO YOU MIND SENDING IT AROUND TO EVERYBODY? OH, SURE. I ALSO JUST, THE OTHER THING, I, I THINK WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO SAY WAS THEY'RE GOING TO ADOPT A LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT TYPE, NOT THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. 'CAUSE AS YOU'VE SAID, THERE IS NO LAW THAT RIGHT NOW THAT LETS THEM AUTHORIZE A BATTERY, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE. SO THEY'RE GONNA, THEY THEY REALLY WERE TRYING TO, SHOULD HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS TYPE OF PROJECT, NOT THIS PROJECT. RIGHT? A AND, AND NO, I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU WHAT I THINK THE WAS THEY WERE GONNA AUTHORIZE THIS TYPE OF PROJECT AND THEY WERE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO, BECAUSE IT SAYS SO IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH OF THE LETTER SUBJECT TO, UM, UM, APPROPRIATE, UM, UM, REVEAL PROTECT EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROTECTING ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT OF THE LETTER WAS. BUT IT'S NOT THE WORDS THAT USED AND WORDS HAPPEN TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN LITIGATION. I I SEE WHAT PETER'S SAYING THOUGH. IF, IF MAYBE THEY COULD JUST ISSUE A CLARIFICATION. YOU KNOW, I WISH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN, BUT SAYING, JUST SO IT'S UNDERSTOOD BY THE PROJECT, WE MET THE PROJECT TYPE NOT EAGLE, THE SPECIFIC PROJECT PROJECT BECAUSE PROJECT IS NOT CAPITALIZED. SO IT ISN'T, IT'S NOT CLEAR. YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW, I, I JUST DON'T THINK THE C A C OTIC GET INVOLVED IN THIS. THIS IS, AT THIS POINT IT'S A LEGAL, IT'S A LEGAL THING. YEAH. BUT, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE, THAT THE TOWN FATHERS MAY NOT BE AWARE EVEN OF THE, UM, DAMAGE THAT THEY'VE CAUSED. I'VE, I'VE TOLD THEM, I SENT 'EM AN EMAIL THEY HAVE. OKAY. AND WHAT'S, WHAT, AND HAS THERE BEEN A RESPONSE? HOLD ON. YOU WANT YOU, ME TO, WANT ME TO READ THE EMAIL TO YOU? I SENT, YEAH, HOLD ON. YOU'RE GONNA LOSE ME. I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP EVERYBODY'S TIME IF THEY'RE NOT IN NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. IT'S FINE. I'M, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT I'M FINE. I'M SENDING THE LETTER NOW. THANK YOU, BARBARA. YOU HAVE A COLD OR WILL YOU JUST TEARING UP HERE. . IT'S SO SAD. I WANNA CRY. WANNA PUNCH SOMEBODY OUT FOR THE STUPIDITY. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BEEN, IT'S THE TYPICAL THING OF SORT OF THIS BLIND, UM, BEING SO GULLIBLE. HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU BE SO GULLIBLE WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION, THEY'RE LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR INTERESTS AND THEIR, TERRY, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME NOW? BECAUSE I CAN, I CAN'T. YES. YES. OKAY, I'M GONNA, IT'S ONLY TWO PARAGRAPHS. I MEAN, I MEAN AFTER, YOU KNOW, AFTER READING THIS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I WROTE THIS AND UH, JUST ONE SECOND. DOES IT START OUT PAUL USED STUPID S**T ? NO, PETER, REMEMBER THIS IS BEING RECORDED. RECORDED. SORRY, TERRY. RIGHT. OKAY. HOLD ON A SEC. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE IN THE BACK ROOM WITH NOBODY PAYING ATTENTION ANYMORE, RIGHT? WELL, WHAT THE HELL, . OKAY. YEAH. HERE, HERE, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT THE LETTER SAID. UM, WAIT, NOW I'M REALLY CRYING. . NO. OKAY, GO AHEAD. OH WAIT. THERE THE HELL. OH CRAP. ONE OF THOSE FIVE SECOND DELAYS FOR PETER. YEAH, RIGHT. BLEEP ME OUT. SORRY GUYS. , UM, HERE, UH, HERE, UH, I CAN'T, TERRY, DO YOU HAVE A COPY [01:00:01] OF IT? BECAUSE I SENT YOU A COPY? YEAH, YOU WANT ME TO BRING IT UP? I THINK I HAVE TO. MAYBE YOU CAN BE, I'M SORRY. YEAH, I'LL HOLD ON. SORRY. I'M SO BAD AT THIS STUFF. NO, NO. HE, HERE, HERE WE GO. AT THE NOVEMBER NINE. NO, THIS IS ABOUT GETTING MORE DOCUMENTS. WHERE'S THE ONE? TALK ABOUT THE LETTER. UM, UH, LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND THIS. HOLD ON. YOU JUST SENT IT TODAY. YOU CAN'T FIND IT. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY EMAILS HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH. REALLY? I, I, I LITERALLY, I, I WAS ALSO LIKE AN HOUR AND I CAME BACK AND I HAD 18 EMAILS IN MY FOCUSED FOLDER. , IT WAS LIKE, I'M LOOKING FOLKS, HOLD ON. UH, OKAY. I THINK THIS, THIS IS FROM MIKE FROM, UM, ON DEC ON DECEMBER 9TH PUBLIC HEARING. I KNOW WHAT THE CLUB SAID. NO, THIS IS NOT THE ONE I'M LOOKING FOR THIS. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I'M FINDING. WHERE'S THE OTHER ONE? YOU, YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE? YEAH, IT'S THE ONE BEFORE THAT. YEAH, OBVIOUSLY MISFIRE. OH, HERE IT IS. NORWOOD NORWOOD LETTER TOWN'S LETTER TO NYSERDA. YEAH, THAT'S THE, I THINK THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S THE LETTER. SO IT HAS TO BE NO, IT IS, IT'S HAS TO BE. OKAY. HERE I HAVE PAUL SAYING I AGREE WITH YOU. I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID WE WOULD ADOPT THE LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT. OH, HERE, OKAY, HERE IT IS. AT THE, NO, AT THE NOVE, AT THE NOVEMBER NINE PUBLIC HEARING, THE CLUB SAID IT WOULD OPEN ITS BOOKS TO THE TOWN. I BELIEVE THE TOWN SHOULD OBTAIN A COPY OF ONE, THE NEW CONTRACT TO TAKE OVER MANAGEMENT OF THE CLUB. AND TWO, THE OPTION TO BUY THE LAND OWNED BY THE CLUB OR NO AWARD REAL ESTATE COMPANY. GIVEN THE, AND HERE'S A PARAGRAPH. GIVEN THE TOWN'S APPARENT, AND I WOULD THINK PREMATURE COMMITMENT IN ITS NOVEMBER 30TH, LETTER TO NYSERDA TO QUOTE, ADOPT A LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT AND TO DO SO WITHIN ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS, PRESUMABLY FROM DECEMBER 30TH, IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO START UNDERSTANDING THE CONTEXT AND TOTALITY OF WHAT'S INVOLVED, TO WHICH PAUL RESPONDED, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID WE WILL ADOPT A LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT. SO HE AGREES HE SAID IT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. ALRIGHT. BUT HE ALSO AGREES THAT IT WAS A MISTAKE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW. WE WILL, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL CONCLUDE AT THE END OF THE PROCESS THAT THIS MAKES SENSE. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. SO, SO IT MAY NOT MAKE SENSE AT THE LOCATION. WHEN I WROTE THE LETTER, MY GOAL WAS TO, NOT TO KILL THE PROJECT, BUT TO LEAVE ALL OPTIONS OPEN. I BELIEVE THAT THE CLUB WILL SURVIVE HAVING HOUSES OF THE COUNTRY CLUB WOULD BE A BIG QUALITY OF LIFE, NEGATIVE FOR THE IMMEDIATE AREA. PEOPLE PURCHASING THEIR HOME, HOPING THEY WOULD HAVE OPEN SPACE WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE PROJECT IF THERE ARE SAFETY OR ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS. WELL, I, I JUST DON'T THINK THE C A C OUGHT TO GET INVOLVED IN THE LEGAL COMPLICATIONS THAT I AGREE. BUT, BUT, BUT CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT PAUL HAS GOOD LEGAL ADVICE ABOUT HOW WE CAN CORRECT THIS AND HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT ? SURE. HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT? I DON'T SUGGEST A GOOD LAWYER TO HIM TO MAKE, TO, TO STRATEGIZE ABOUT HOW TO LIMIT THE DAMAGE FROM THIS. THAT SEEMS TO ME NOT TO BE A, SOMETHING FOR THE C A C, RIGHT. BUT FOR SOMEBODY WHO, UM, PAUL TRUSTS AND LISTENS TO IT MIGHT BE GOOD ADVICE ANYWAY. I AGREE. CAC DOESN'T BELONG IN THIS MESS. YEAH, I I DON'T, I I I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT THINK OF HOW INSULTING IT'S TO TIM FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. WELL, BUT YOU, WELL, YEAH. WELL, THINK OF HOW, HOW PITIABLE IT WOULD BE TO HAVE, UM, GIANT SOLAR FARMS ALL OVER RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IN GREENBURG. YOU WERE A BIG LAWSUIT ABOUT IT. [01:05:03] I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND NOT, UM, BEING CAREFUL OF PEOPLE'S SENSIBILITIES. UH, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO ASSESS WHAT'S THE DAMAGE, POTENTIAL DAMAGE. YEAH. YOU, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, UH, IF TIM LEWIS, I MEAN TIM LEWIS KNOWS THE LETTER WENT OUT AND PAUL SAID, I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT. I MEAN, PAUL SHOULD BE ON THE PHONE WITH TIM LEWIS. LIKE, WHY'D YOU LET ME SAY THAT? RIGHT? BECAUSE AS MIKE SAID, MAYBE TIM LEWIS DIDN'T, DIDN'T KNOW. RIGHT. IT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY. , WHICH WOULD ALSO MEAN THAT TIM WOULDN'T BE, WOULDN'T, SHOULDN'T FEEL RESPONSIBLE OR, OR, OR DISSED IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, IF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IF WE TRIED TO PUT THE HORSE, GET THE HORSE BACK INTO THE BARN HERE. ANYWAY, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW WHY I AM, THIS IS NOT MY EXPERTISE. I'M NOT A LAWYER, MIKE, SO I'M JUST, I JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE TOWN, DO WHATEVER IT CAN TO MITIGATE IF, IF THERE'S REAL DAMAGE HERE, LIKE YOU'VE SAID, UM, IT'D BE GREAT TO DO FOR THE TOWN TO TAKE WHATEVER ACTION IT COULD. NOW TO MITIGATE THE DAMAGE. PLEASE TRY TO, I DUNNO. I DUNNO. I DUNNO. OKAY. I, I THINK WE EXHAUSTED THIS TOPIC IN HARM FRUSTRATION AS TO WHERE IT IS. UH, IT'S JUST BEEN A VERY FRUSTRATING EXPERIENCE. UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING, YEAH, THE ONLY THING, GO AHEAD, MIKE. YEAH. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THIS LETTER IS I WROTE HIM ONE MORE TIME. GET THE G*****N DOCUMENTS. WE SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT'S, I MEAN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE, HE, AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING HE WAS GOING ON ABOUT PEOPLE PREFER HOUSES. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THIS, THIS, THIS NAIVE CHAIN THAT SOMEHOW THE COUNTRY CLUB IS SURVIVING. AND I MUST SAY, IF MY VIEW SHED IS HOUSES VER VERSUS UM, UH, BATTERY FARM, YEAH, I'D BE VERY HAPPY TO TAKE THE HOUSES. EVEN IF I, YOU KNOW, WAS SITTING UP THERE ON THE TOP OF THE HILL WHERE THEY DEVELOPED THE HOLE. UM, DID EVERYONE SEE MONA'S PICTURES? YES. YEAH. I MEAN, I'M SURE PEOPLE ARE JUST LINED UP TO TRY TO GET THESE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? YOU IMAGINE? OH, LIKE IN, IN THE WORK YOU DO, DONNA, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS? NO. I MEAN, WE'VE WORKED ON, UM, WE'VE WORKED ON SOLAR PROJECTS, BUT NEVER A BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY. THINK ABOUT THIS. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT DONNA, PLEASE THINK ABOUT THIS. YOU CAN CAMOUFLAGE AND SCREEN THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE CABINETS. 'CAUSE THEY'RE 8.275. THE TESLA ONES ARE 8.27 FEET. SO YOU CAN SCREEN SOMETHING THAT'S 8.27 FEET. RIGHT? JUST SO YOU KNOW. SO, BUT DONNA, THINK ABOUT THIS. WHAT IN THE HELL DO YOU DO WITH THOSE WIRES, THOSE BIG POLES THAT YOU COULDN'T PUT YOUR ARM AROUND THOSE BIG METAL POLES AND THOSE WIRES? HOW DO YOU SCREEN THAT? BECAUSE ISN'T THERE SOME RULE THAT THEY HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN LIMIT OFF THE GROUND AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY SO THE KIDS DON'T GO AND GRAB 'EM AND ALL, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEN KILL THEMSELVES. THOSE WIRES KILL YOU. SO COULD, COULD YOU THINK ABOUT HOW WE COULD COME UP TO REMEMBER, WE, WE ONLY DO THE ENVIRONMENT. LEMME ASK YOU SOMETHING, MIKE. ZONING. WE DON'T DO POLITICS. WE DON'T DO ANY OF THAT. MIKE, CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING AND NO, NO. LEMME JUST DON'T LET ME INTERRUPT YOU. BUT IN, IN ANY OF THE PRESENTATION MATERIALS, WERE THERE ANY WIRES SHOWN? OR WAS THIS JUST SHOWN AS A NO. GREAT STANDING? NO, THERE WERE NO, IT WAS A DRAWING. IT WASN'T SHOWN. YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS VERY ANY I, I, I SAID AT THIS, I, I SAID IN FRONT OF FRANCIS AND KEN AND GARRETT AND WALTER AND HUGH AND TERRY. I FEEL DECEIVED. I SAID, I AM NOT STUPID. I KNOW HOW TO READ THIS G*****N STUFF. I'VE READ IT TWICE. I FEEL DECEIVED. IT ABSOLUTELY WAS NOT SHOWN PETER NOTHING LIKE WHAT MONICA CAME UP WITH. SO, SO, SO, I MEAN, THERE, RIGHT, RIGHT AWAY THERE'S GROUNDS I THINK FOR, FOR PAUL TO SAY, HEY, WE DIDN'T KNOW. THEY DIDN'T SHOW IT. THEY LIED TO US. I AGREE. WELL, I MEAN THE WHOLE THING, I MEAN, THEY'VE PRESENTED THIS AS BEING A, UM, GREEN PROJECT. GREEN PROJECT, WHICH IT REALLY ISN'T. IT'S A PROJECT TO MAKE MONEY. YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT THE, WAS I WAS TALKING ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS IN MOUNT KISCO WHERE THEY HAD AN ACRE AND A HALF OF, OF SOLAR PANELS. THAT, THAT'S TO, THAT'S TO SAVE ENERGY. WHEN YOU PUT THE SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF OF A BUILDING THAT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY [01:10:01] FRIENDLY. THIS IS STRICTLY A BUSINESS OPERATION FOR PROJECT ARBITRAGE. YEAH. IT'S ARBITRAGE. RIGHT? I SAID, AND MY, AND MIKE, IF YOU REMEMBER AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS, MIKE SAID TO THEM, THIS IS ARBITRAGE. AND THEY SAID YES. RIGHT PETER, THE UH, BUT THAT HAS NOT FILTERED, UNFORTUNATELY TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY, UH, PETER. UM, THEY DO SAY THEY'RE OVERHEAD WIRES NOW SAYING THERE'S OVERHEAD WIRES AND LOOK AT MOTOR'S, PICTURES NOT EXACTLY THE SAME THING. WELL, BUT, BUT A HOUSE, IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME THING. BUT THEIR RENDERINGS ARE, BUT THEIR RENDERINGS ARE INACCURATE. RENDERINGS ARE, UM, A FORM OF LYING. UH, A FRAUD. FRAUD. A FRAUD. IT'S A MATERIAL. A MATERIAL. IT'S A, IT'S AN REMISSION OF A MATERIAL FACT. RIGHT? INTEND BE. BUT DONNA, PLEASE THINK PROFESSIONALLY 'CAUSE WE JUST DO THE ENVIRONMENT. NONE OF WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS REALLY RELEVANT, EXCEPT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW. 'CAUSE IT CREATES A CONTEXT FOR HOW WE THINK ABOUT THINGS. 'CAUSE AS, AS PETER SAYS, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THIS BENIGN LITTLE PROJECT THAT, LIKE TERRY SAID EARLIER, IT'S A HELL OF A LOT BIGGER. AND AS PETER SAYS, IT'S NOT THIS BENIGN LITTLE PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US. PLEASE THINK DOWN TO HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY SCREEN THE POLES AND THE WIRES. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER OF HOW WE SCREEN THE, UH, THE CABINETS. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU AND MARGARET, WELL YOU CAN'T BURY THEM, MIKE, FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT HOW DO YOU, UNLESS THERE'S BEDROCK, BUT NO, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WAS FOR SOME REASON ELMSFORD DIDN'T WANT THEM BURIED. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS YOU COULD INSIST THAT ALL THE WIRES BE BURIED. WELL IS, WELL QUESTION TERRY. I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. WE WILL ADOPT A LOCAL LAW AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT. NOW THE PROJECT PROPOSES OVERHEAD WIRES. THEY DON'T SHOW US WHAT IT IS. THEY PROPOSE OVERHEAD WIRES. ARE WE AUTHORIZING THE PROJECT IF WE SAID, YEAH, WE'LL DO YOUR PROJECT AS LONG AS YOU BEAR THE WIRES. I DON'T KNOW. YES. YES. . I THINK SO. 'CAUSE WE ALWAYS PUT CONDITIONS BECAUSE WE TOLD THEM UP FRONT WE WERE GONNA HAVE ALL KINDS OF CONDITIONS FOR DECOMMISSIONING AND WHATNOT. AND THEY DIDN'T. AND ACTUALLY, I THINK IN THEIR PRESENTATION THEY SAID THEY COULD, THEY COULD DO VARIED WIRES, BUT IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. AND THEY PREFERRED TO, UM, DO THEM OVERHEAD IF I THE, THE BLAST WHAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO BLAST. WELL, NO, BUT THEY HAD, THEY, BECAUSE THEY, ONE OF THE THINGS IS BECAUSE I QUESTIONED THE ABILITY OF THE POLES TO SUPPORT THE WIRES BECAUSE IN SOME PLACES THEY WERE USING THE EXISTING TELEPHONE POLES. AND I, BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT THESE WIRES HAD HAD TO BE BIGGER. I MEAN, MY MY WOULD YOU SAY SORT OF, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DID COME UP AND SOMEWHERE, 'CAUSE I REMEMBER SAYING MAYBE AT THAT MEETING WE HAD, UM, THAT PRELIMINARY MEETING WE HAD WITH FRANCIS AND UH, ABOUT FORMING A GROUP TO WORK ON THE LAW. I HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, 'CAUSE MONA WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WIRES. AND I SAID, WELL, WHY CAN'T WE BURY THEM? AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND I SAID, DON'T WE HAVE THE LAW NOW THAT WHEN YOU BUILD A NEW DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE TO BURY THE THE WIRES. WHICH IS TRUE. AND FRANCIS' RESPONSE WAS, WELL, WE DON'T REQUIRE IT COMMERCIALLY WHERE THEIR EXISTING OVERHEAD WIRES. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. WHICH REALLY I FOUND VERY OFF-PUTTING BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE SAYING IF WE'VE DONE SOMETHING INCORRECTLY IN THE PAST, WE'RE NEVER GONNA RECTIFY IT. BUT GOING, IT JUST SEEMED TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS LONG TERM THAT WOULD BE IN EVERYBODY'S INTEREST, I THINK SINCE WE NOW HAVE SO MANY WIRES AND THEY'RE SO THICK, IS THAT THEY GET BURIED. I MEAN, IT, YOUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD TELEPHONE POLES ARE BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE THOSE PICTURES FROM LIKE 1927 IN DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN BEFORE THEY BURIED THE WIRES IN MANHATTAN. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT IT'S BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE BETWEEN ALL OF THE VERIZON AND CABLE VISION AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S WIRES RUNNING ON THOSE POLES ALONG WITH THE ELECTRIC. SO, BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT, THAT'S THE PROBLEM, TERRY. ONCE WE DO SOMETHING WRONG, FRANCIS SAY, OH, WE LET THEM DO IT. SO WE GOTTA TO LET SOMEONE ELSE DO IT. RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S ONCE WE, ONCE THIS HAPPENS, THIS IS IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. SO ANY OTHER THINGS ABOUT EVERYBODY READY FOR SOME MORE GOOD NEWS ABOUT JOE? JOE MOORE? WILL WE GET OFF OF THIS? WE NEVER EVER GET TO YOUR SECRET THING, . NO, WE'RE GONNA DO SEQUEL. UH, SHARON WAS VERY NICE, GAVE SOME NICE COMMENTS AND UH, UM, BUT I DO WANT TO GET THE CQA OUT BECAUSE, UM, IT WOULD BE KIND OF NICE TO SEND IT TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THE PLANNING BOARD SINCE C QA, [01:15:01] UH, IS SOMETHING THEY IN NOW COMING BEFORE THEM. UM, STEVE, CAN I GIVE YOU A COMMENT YOU WANNA SAY ABOUT THIS, TERRY, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OFFER OF BATTERY ENERGY? YEAH, DO YOU WANNA DO DRUM MORE OR DO YOU WANNA DO SECRET? WHAT'S YOUR SEQUENCE FIRST? LEMME DO DRUM MORE. IT'S, IT IS SHORT. OKAY. A DRUM MORE. UM, LAST NIGHT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE TOWN BOARD ADOPTED A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING AN AFFIRMATIVE, NO, SORRY, SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DRILL MORE. AH. AND IT SAID SOMETHING LIKE SUPPORTING AFFORD AND, AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS CONDITIONS OF A 2016 SPECIAL PERMIT, SITE PLAN, SPECIAL PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL APPROVAL FROM JANUARY, 2016, FIVE YEARS AGO. SO I THEN I, I HAD NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS, SO I CONTACTED THE, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I MIGHT HAVE ANY VIEWS ON IT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. UH, BUT THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT TREE PRO, TREE REMOVAL PERMITS, YOU KNOW, MY EARS KIND OF POP UP. UM, AND SO THEN I, I TALKED, I CONTACTED THE HEAD OF THE E C C AND HE SAID HE'D NEVER HEARD ABOUT ANY OF THIS. AND SO THEN I TALKING TO HUGH TODAY ABOUT THE BATTERY ENGINE STORAGE. SO I SAID, HUGH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, UH, JOE MOORE? AND HE SAID, WELL, A LITTLE, BUT I'M ACCUSED FROM IT. BUT I SAID, DO YOU JUST KNOW THE FACTS OF, UM, WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED TO MOORE? AND HE SAID, IT'S BEING PROPOSED 45, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PROJECT AT DRILL MOORE WOULD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT HAS 45 UNITS ABOUT A MIXTURE OF ONE BEDROOM AND TWO BEDROOMS. AND HE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE TREE PERMIT. SO, WHICH, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND. BUT I DO REMEMBER THE, THE FIRST TIME THAT TERRY AND I STUMBLED ACROSS THE NATIONAL, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL TREE CALCULATOR OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, WAS DRILL MORE. THEY WERE TAKING IT DOWN 90 TREES. AND TERRY WENT THROUGH ALL 90 TREES AND CAME UP WITH THE IMPACT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF REMOVING THOSE 90 TREES. WE FILED SOMETHING REDUNDANT. I MEAN, IT WAS ALL HASTILY AT THE LAST MINUTE. WE FILED SOMETHING WITH THE TOWN BOARD SAYING, MY GOD, DO YOU REALIZE WHAT THIS, THIS IS? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF THESE TREES? I HAVE NO IDEA IF ANY OF THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD, I DON'T KNOW. TERRY, IF YOU COULD FIND THE FILING FROM 2015 OR 2016. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT WAS, I DUNNO. I KNOW THAT MY NAME APPEARS ON ALL THE LAWSUITS BECAUSE OF THAT . BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE WERE SAYING AT THE TIME WAS THAT WE DIDN'T THINK WHAT WE WERE SAYING WAS STAY THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES. 'CAUSE IT WAS IN LITIGATION. YEAH, YEAH. UNTIL YOU SOLVE THE LITIGATION. DON'T TAKE THE TREES DOWN. YEAH, BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO THINGS. ONE, IF YOU, IF THE LITIGATION GOES ONE WAY, YOU WOULD NEED TO TAKE THE TREES DOWN. BUT ALSO IN THE INTERIM, IF YOU TOOK THE TREES DOWN, YOU HAD THIS NUD STEEP SLOPE THAT HAD NO TREES. I, THAT'S WHAT I THINK OUR POSITION WAS. JUST DON'T DO ANYTHING. DO YOU REALIZE WHAT'S HERE? WAIT UNTIL YOU GET THE FINAL DETERMINATION. BECAUSE THEN IF THEY, THEY HAVE THE OBLIGATION ON ONCE THEY'RE BUILDING TO DO THE WATER RETENTION, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU HAVE A STEEP SLOPE GOING DOWN ONTO CENTRAL AVENUE THAT WOULD CAUSE FLOODING IN MAYHEM. SO YOU LOSE THE TREES. IF, AND IF IN FACT THIS LAWSUIT HAD GONE THE OTHER WAY, THE TREES WOULD PROBABLY REMAIN. SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE TREE PERMIT APPROVAL WAS BACK IN 2016. SO I EMAILED GARRETT THIS AFTERNOON IN MY SPARE TIME AND SAID, COULD HE PLEASE SEND IT TO ME AND TERRY, BECAUSE ONE OF THE INTERESTING QUESTIONS IS, ONE, WHAT DID THEY DO? AND TWO, DOES IT PRECLUDE USING THE NEW TREE LAW FOR THIS MASSIVE REMOVAL? I HAVE NO, I I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY DID. I DON'T THINK KAREN AND I EVER SAW IT. DON'T THINK THE C A C EVER SAW IT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN USE THE NEW TREE LAW. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET A COPY OF THAT. UH, I VA FOR A COPY OF IT. MY GUESS IS IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO GET, HE PROBABLY NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S PROBABLY NOT ON THE TOP OF HIS DESK, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO FIND IT. SEND IT, I'M SURE. WE'LL, EVENTUALLY, BUT THAT'S WHY I THINK THE C A C OUGHT TO KNOW WHAT IT, WHAT HAS BEEN ENVIRONMENTALLY WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED. AND WE NEED TO THEN DISCUSS WITH AARON WHETHER THE NEW TREE LAW WOULD HAVE ANY APPLICABLE TO HERE. SO THAT SAYS ON MORGAN NEWS ON JOE MOORE [01:20:01] NEWS, DID WE EVER LOOK AT THAT? I'M SORRY. LOOK AT MORE. I DON'T THINK IT CAME TO US. DID IT? UM, NOT REALLY, BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER REALLY, IT WAS HELD UP NO PLAN BECAUSE IT WAS IN LITIGATION. RIGHT. THERE WAS NO PLAN. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY TOOK DOWN THOSE TREES, TERRY? NO. WELL THAT'S GOOD WHEN WE DRIVE PAST STRAIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO THE NATURE CENTER. ALL THOSE TREES ARE THERE. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S GOOD. YEAH, NO, I MEAN WE, WE, WE STAYED THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES, WHICH WAS A SOMETHING TO OUR CREDIT BECAUSE IT WAS A SIMPLE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE 'EM DOWN UNTIL YOU HAVE A, BECAUSE I THINK OUR, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND THIS IS WHAT I THINK OUR POSITION WAS, THAT UNTIL THE LAWSUIT IS FINALIZED, THERE WAS NO REASON TO GO AHEAD WITH TAKING DOWN THE TREES BECAUSE IF THE LAWSUIT WAS CAME OUT THE OTHER WAY THAT THEY COULDN'T BUILD, YOU WOULD'VE LOST THE TREES. AND, UH, AND I THINK, AND, BUT I DO THINK THAT OUR PAPERS HAD IN THERE WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL VALUE WAS. IT WASN'T JUST . YES, IT DID. BECAUSE WE, WE, I COMPUTED IT 'CAUSE IT WAS LIKE SO INCREDIBLE. THAT WAS WHY WITH THAT EYE TREE, WE COULDN'T GET OVER HOW QUICKLY I COULD DO IT. I JUST WENT DOWN, I GUESS IT WAS THEIR LIST OF TREES. SO WE MUST'VE GOTTEN, WE MUST'VE GOTTEN THE TREE PERMIT. I DON'T THINK WE GOT THE APPLICATION. I THINK WE GOT THE TREE PERMIT. SO, SO, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, THAT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE. YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TREES THERE. SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT WHAT THE, WHAT THE STATUS OF THE PAPER, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE STATUS OF THINGS IS, AND THEN TALK TO ERIC. OKAY. SQUA, I'M HERE. I I'M SORRY I JUST JUMPED BACK ON, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OH, AARON, LAST NIGHT THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING A FIRM, UH, UH, SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT OKAY. I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, RESOLUTION AS TB ONE AND AT THE END OF TB ONE, IT REFERENCES A SITE PLAN, SPECIAL PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL APPROVAL FROM SOMETIME IN JANUARY, 2016. UH, UH, AND THE QUESTION WE HAVE THE C C WE JUST TALKING ABOUT WAS WHAT KERRY REMEMBERS THAT WHAT WE ASKED FOR WAS THAT THE CUTTING DOWN OF, I REMEMBER ABOUT 90 TREES GET STAYED UNTIL THE LITIGATION WAS OVER. SO THAT DEPENDING ON HOW THE LITIGATION CAME OUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE LITIGATION CAME OUT THAT THEY COULDN'T DO SOMETHING AND THEY ALREADY CUT IT DOWN, NINE 90 TREES, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, UH, GET THOSE 90 TREES BACK. AND THAT'S WHEN, THAT'S WHEN WE FIRST TIME STUMBLED ON THE NATIONAL, UH, TREAT BENEFIT CALCULATOR. AND TERRY DID THE CALCULATIONS OF THE WATER, UH, OF THE C O TWO REMOVAL AND THE WATER RUNOFF, UH, OF THOSE 90 TREES. AND WE SAID, PLEASE DON'T DO THIS UNTIL THE LITIGATION'S OVER. AND TERRY SAYS THE TREES ARE STILL THERE. SO ONE OF THE, SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ARE, COULD WE JUST, COULD WE GET A COPY OF THAT 2016, WHATEVER HAPPENED IN 2016 THAT'S REFERENCED IN TB ONE? AND THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO READ IT AND THEN DISCUSS WITH YOU WHETHER OR NOT THE NEW TREE LAW WOULD REPLY WOULD APPLY TO ANY REMOVALS. OKAY. SO I'LL SPEAK TO GARRETT TOMORROW ABOUT THAT, AND I CAN GET THE C A C A COPY OF THAT 2016. THANK YOU AARON. YEAH. AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT OUR NEXT MEETING. UM, I DON'T THINK THIS IS MOVING THAT FAST, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HEARD TREE REMOVAL PERMIT ALL SUDDEN MY EARS WENT UP. 'CAUSE I REMEMBERED HAD 90 TREES. OKAY, I WILL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT. AND, AND THEY WERE GOOD SIZED TREES TOO. THAT WAS THE OTHER THING. WE'RE TALKING, THEY WERE GOOD SIZED TREES IS MY RECOLLECTION, BECAUSE I WAS STAGGERED WHEN I GOT DONE WITH THE AMOUNT OF CARBON DIOXIDE AND WATER THAT WAS INVOLVED. OH, I'LL BE BACK IN ABOUT TWO MINUTES. WHY DON'T YOU START SEQUIN NOW THE SECRET GUIDE THAT TERRY, I, I WAS JUST GONNA ADD ONE ITEM IF I MAY. SURE. IF I CAN JUMP IN. I JUST WANTED TO REPORT THAT THE PROJECT ON THE SUBDIVISION ON ARDSLEY ROAD, WHERE A FEW MEMBERS, UH, HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST. UM, WE, WE WENT OUT TO THE SITE, MARGARET CAME AND THEY WILL, THEY'RE LOOKING TO COME BACK FOR YOUR MEETING ON THE 28TH IF THERE'S AVAILABILITY. THEY HAVE ENGAGED A, AN, A PROFESSIONAL TREE SERVICE DAVEY TREE EXPERT COMPANY TO PUT TOGETHER THE INFORMATION TO SHOW COMPLIANCE WITH THE TOWN TREE ORDINANCE. UM, AND THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER THEIR STORMWATER [01:25:02] REPORT AND THEY'RE READY TO MAKE A SUBMISSION NEXT WEEK SO THAT I CAN MAIL IT OUT TO ALL OF YOU, UH, LATE NEXT WEEK IN ADVANCE OF THE 2018. AARON, THE ME THE MINUTES THAT WE APPROVE TONIGHT FOR THE DECEMBER 10TH MEETING, I THINK IT IS, HAS A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY PROMISED TO PRODUCE, UM, UNDER THAT. SO MAYBE YOU JUST WANNA REFER THEM TO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COME BACK WITH A COMPLETE, UM, PRESENTATION. AND WE DON'T SAY, OH, YOU'RE MISSING THIS ONE. JUST HELP, IT'LL HELP THEM OUT. WILL DO, WILL DO. OKAY, GOOD. SO MIKE SAID TO START ON, ON THE SEEKER DOCUMENT, AND I THINK SHARON, I DID NOT GO THROUGH YOUR CHANGES. I DID NOT HAVE TIME. AS I SAID, I COULD NOT BELIEVE WHEN I CAME, HAD A LONG, LONG TELEPHONE VISIT WITH MY NIECE IN FLORIDA. I, MY COMPUTER WAS INFECTED WITH THE AMOUNT OF EMAILS I HAD. UM, THERE WEREN'T THAT MANY. THERE WEREN'T THAT MANY THINGS. YEAH, I KNOW. AND I GUESS I WAS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF ONE OF THE ONES I HAD WAS ONE THAT YOU HAD, I FOUND, UM, I GUESS IT WAS MY PAGE FOUR WHILE I DID THE PRINTOUT, BUT EVERYONE'S PAGE IS A DIFFERENCES. THIS IS, IS IMP PAGINATED. IT WAS, I HAD SOMETHING WHERE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT EVEN IF NOT A TYPE ONE ACTION, UH, DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OR CONTIGUOUS TO RECREATIONAL AREAS OR OPEN SPACES WOULD BE AN UNLISTED ACTION AND MAYBE REQUIRED BY AN REQUIRING E I S IN THE 2016 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE TOWN IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS, TRACK OF ENVIRONMENTAL, ET CETERA, ASSOCIATED WITH OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PROPERTIES. AND THEN HE, THERE'S A CITATION. THEN HE STARTS OUT BY SAYING, BECAUSE THE TOWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED THE POTENTIAL FOR ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, SHOULD THE USE OF A LARGE RECREATION AREA BE OPEN TO OPEN SPACE OR MATERIALLY ALTERED AND E I S MAY BE APPROPRIATE. I THOUGHT THE PARAGRAPH UP ABOVE SAID IT WAS REQUIRED. SO I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTIONING IN MIKE'S BACK HERE. MAYBE I MISREAD THIS. WHAT'S THE QUESTION THERE? UH, IT'S MY, WHEN I PRINTED THIS AD, IT WAS MY PAGE FOUR. IT'S, UH, UNDER RECREATIONAL AREAS AND OPEN SPACES. YEP. OKAY. SO IT'S THE FOURTH PARAGRAPH DOWN. OKAY. YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SECRET DEVELOPMENT WITHIN CONTIGUOUS OR RECREATIONAL AREAS. OPEN SPACES WOULD BE AN UNLISTED ACTION AND MAY REQUIRE ANY E I S UM, OKAY, SO THEN YOU'RE SAYING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE THE E THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS DONE THIS, THEN IT IS REQUIRED, UH, BUT NOT AN ACTION. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WAS THE QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THE OPEN SPACE WAS A TYPE ONE ACTION OR AN UNLISTED ACTION? BECAUSE I THOUGHT IF IT'S TWO ACRES OR MORE, AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THEN A TYPE ONE ACTION, ALL OF OUR OPEN SPACE EXCEEDS THAT, DOESN'T IT? SO WHY WOULD IT LAND UP BEING UNLISTED? OKAY. BUT NOW I'M HERE. I'M TRYING TO FIND WHERE YOU ARE, TERRY, BECAUSE I I, OKAY. NUMBER FOUR, RECREATIONAL AREAS AND OPEN SPACE. I JUST, I'M IN WHAT I'M GONNA DO, TERRY, IS GET OFF OF THIS AND POP UP. HOLD IT ONE SECOND. OKAY. I'M, UH, UNDER NUMBER NUMBER FOUR. OKAY. I GUESS I THINK I, THIS MAY BE MY ERROR. I THOUGHT I WAS READING IT. THAT SEEKER SAID IT WAS A TYPE ONE ACTION. HOLD ON. MAYBE TYPE ONE. OKAY. THAT THIS IS WHERE, UM, THIS IS NUMBER FOUR AND MUST BE HAVE BEEN, ARE, ARE, ARE, UH, COMPARED. OKAY. THIS IS NUMBER FOUR. BECAUSE THE TOWN HAS EFFICIENT, POTENTIAL ADVERSE, AN E I S MAY BE APPROPRIATE. ONE. AND ONCE AN UNLISTED ACTION NEEDS THE CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING ENVIRONMENTAL SIGNIFICANCE, IT SHOULD BE TREATED AS TYPE ONE ACTION. OKAY. WHAT'S THE QUESTION, CARRIE? I MAY, I THINK MY PROBLEM WAS, I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS WAS A, MAYBE A TYPE ONE ACTION. I THINK I WAS READING IT THAT IT WAS A TYPE ONE ACTION, BUT THAT IS MY ERROR. I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. THE, THE, UM, I THINK PART, PART OF THE PROGRAM PROBLEM IS THAT, [01:30:01] UH, YOU ARE USING A LOT OF QUOTATIONS AND A LOT OF.DOT DOTS AND FOOTNOTES. SO IT'S MOVING FROM ONE THING TO THE OTHER. IT LOOKS AS THOUGH WHAT IS A FOOTNOTE IS TEXT. AND YOU'VE GOT NUMBERS IN THERE. WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY, AND SHARON, YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUTTA MY MOUTH, SHARON, THERE ARE NO FOOTNOTES. NO. FRANK, UM, MIKE, YEAH, MIKE, I THINK WHAT FOR READABILITY MM-HMM. AND, AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS 'CAUSE THERE ALMOST OUGHT TO BE TWO VERSIONS. ONE WHERE ALL THE CRITERIA CITATIONS YOU GIVE, WHICH ARE USEFUL TO HAVE, SHOULD ANYONE QUESTION THIS. BUT WHEN YOU'RE READING THE DOCUMENT, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE CITATIONS, IT GETS VERY CONFUSING AND CUMBERSOME TO READ. AND THEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THINGS IN THE APPENDIXES THAT GET LOST. 'CAUSE SOMEONE GETS TO THE BEGINNING AND SAYS, OH, THE APPENDIX, AND THEN THEY LOSE IN SOME OF THE APPENDIX. LIKE, UM, THINGS THAT REALLY ARE, UM, IMPORTANT, LIKE, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHICH ONE. I SAID, GEE, YOU THAT SHOULD REALLY, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN, UM, THE APPENDIX ALMOST I FELT SHOULD BE IN THE BODY FOR CLARITY AS YOU WENT THROUGH. SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE CONTENT, BUT THE WAY THE CONTENT IS STRUCTURED AND YOU'RE MISSING A, A, UH, CON AFTER IMPACTS THAT WOULD CHANGE THE WAY YOU READ IT. SO I DON'T KNOW, LIKE IF THERE COULD BE LIKE THIS VERSION AND THEN A VERSION THAT'S SIMPLER TO READ. WELL, UH, UH, HERE IS, UM, HERE'S THE ISSUE. UM, OKAY, BECAUSE THE TOWN AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED THE POTENTIAL FOR ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THE USE, LET'S DON'T TALK ABOUT COMMENT, SHARON. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE POINT. AT THIS POINT TIME. I SAID, SHARON, I MISREAD THIS. I HAD, I HAVE THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE AUTOMATICALLY A TYPE ONE ACTION AND THEY'RE NOT. THAT WAS A MISREADING IN MY THOUGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A VERY MAJOR ISSUES WHICH, UH, BOTH SHARON AND, AND, UH, TERRY RAISED. UM, THE REASON FOR THE QUOTATIONS IS FUNDAMENTAL TO WRITING THIS FOR THIS REASON. THIS WILL SURPRISE A LOT OF PEOPLE. PEOPLE, AND EVERY CHANCE I HAD THE, THE, THE, THE, THE STRICTNESS OF QUA WILL SURPRISE A LOT OF PEOPLE, EVEN PEOPLE THAT ARE IN GOOD FAITH. UM, UH, THIS IS NOT THE ADVICE THAT TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, I, I KNOW THIS FROM TALKING TO TOWN BOARD AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT THIS MEMO SAYS IS NOT THE ADVICE THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED OVER THE YEARS. NOW, IF I DON'T USE THE QUOTATIONS AS AWKWARD AS THE QUOTATIONS ARE FROM A READABILITY POINT OF VIEW, THIS IS GONNA BE CRITICIZED AS, OH, THIS IS THE CACS VIEW OF THINGS. BUT YOU KNOW, IT AIN'T REAL BECAUSE THIS IS 180 DEGREES OUT OF WHAT THE TOWN, THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE TOWN BOARD HAVE BEEN ADVISED. NOW WE CAN HAVE A READABLE DOCUMENT, BUT WE'LL BE DISCARDED. THE REASON I, MIKE, MY SUGGESTION WAS TWO DOCUMENTS. WE CAN, THAT SENTENCE TO MAKE IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND SHANNON AND E A S MAY BE APPROPRIATE IF, UH, THE USE OF A LARGE AREA OF OPEN SPACE BE MA IS MATERIALLY ALTERED. WE DON'T HAVE SHARON, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDAMENTAL ISSUES. SEND ME THAT PLEASE. IN AN EMAIL. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT COMMAS NOW. OKAY. NO, NO. I'M, I'M JUST REVERSING THE ORDER OF, OF EACH OF THE CLAUSES IN THE SETTING. I UNDERSTAND. SEND THAT TO ME IN EMAIL. WE'RE NOT TALKING AT THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL NOW. I WILL. THANK YOU. UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER THIS WILL HAVE ANY IMPACT ON ANYONE. NO, I CAN SEE THAT. IT WILL, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE HAVE COMMERCE OR REVERSE CLAUSES, THAT DOESN'T MATTER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE DOCUMENT, HOW THE WHOLE DOCUMENT GETS READ, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS [01:35:01] IS SOMETHING YOU RAISED AND I FELT WHEN I WAS READING IT THAT IF, IF I WERE GONNA USE THIS AS A REFERENCE DOCUMENT A YEAR FROM NOW TO CHECK SOMETHING, THE INCLU, AND I UNDERSTOOD WHY MIKE PUT THE, PUT THE THE CITATIONS IN. BUT CONVERSELY, IF I HAD TO GO QUICKLY AND READ SOMETHING, THE CITATIONS MADE THE READABILITY DIFFICULT. SO THAT'S WHY I SAID TWO DOCUMENTS BECAUSE ONE, AND MAYBE THIS IS THE ONE YOU SUBMIT TO THE TOWN BOARD, AND THEN MAYBE A WEEK OR TWO LATER WE SUBMIT THE PERFECT, THE CLIFF NOTE VERSION, THE EASE OF USE. PERFECT, PERFECT. YEAH, I WAS THINKING SOMETHING LIKE THE, I'M NOT AGAINST TWO DOCUMENTS, I'M JUST, I THINK WE ALL SHARE THE FACT. I SEE PETER NODDING HIS HEAD. THIS IS NOT THE ADVICE THE TOWN BOARD OF THE PLANNING BOARD HAS BEEN GIVEN FOR DECADES. NO, I BELIEVE THAT. AND I, I I JUST WANNA SAY, I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT IS, IT IS A LITTLE HARD TO FOLLOW, BUT HAVING TWO DOCUMENTS ACTUALLY MAKES ME NERVOUS BECAUSE IF WE DO GET THIS TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED AS A SORT OF GUIDEPOST FOR FUTURE ACTIONS BY THE TOWN BOARD, HAVING TWO VERSIONS OF IT IS GOING TO LEAD TO ALL KINDS OF DISPUTATION. AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, I I DON'T KNOW IF FURTHER REVISION OF IT IS WHAT'S REQUIRED. BUT, BUT, BUT THE IDEA OF TWO DOCUMENTS JUST SEEMS TO ME TO LEAVE US OPEN TO, UM, FUTURE QUESTIONING ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SAYING, PETER, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THIS? 'CAUSE WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS SOMETHING I, UH, A TWO DOCUMENT FORMAT BUT NOT SEPARATED BY TWO WEEKS NEXT SUMMER, COME OUT WITH SOMETHING THAT IS, UM, AN AN OVERVIEW VERSION. YOU KNOW, JUST WITH JUST THE CONCLUSIONS IN IT. , RIGHT? I MEAN, MIKE, YOU KNOW, SO THEY, SO THERE'S THE, RIGHT, YOU GET THE SEEKER LAW, YOU GET THE ACTUAL SEEKER LAW, THEN THE STATE HAS PRODUCED LIKE THREE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE LAW. NOW, RIGHT NOW YOU, NOW YOU'RE WRITING A MUCH BETTER FURTHER EXPLANATION OF THE LAW, HOW TO USE IT THE RIGHT WAY. I JUST THINK IT'S CRAZY TO GO AND WRITE AN EXPLANATION OF YOUR EXPLANATION. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH. THE, THE ONE THING I THINK EVERYONE SHARES ABOUT SEQUEL WAS IT'S THEIR, THEIR GOAL IN WRITING THE LAW MUST HAVE BEEN HOW TO WRITE A LAW THAT IS, THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO READ, DISCOMBOBULATED, IMPOSSIBLE TO READ AND, AND, AND, AND HARMFUL TO ITS EFFECTIVENESS. YEAH. I MEAN, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, MIKE, YOU KNOW HOW YOU AND I HAD SHARED THIS WITH THE FOLKS EARLIER, HOW YOU HAD ASKED ME TO CONTACT GARRETT ABOUT WHEN TO COMMENT ON ELMORE, AND THAT WAS GARRETT'S COMMENT. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU. I WANNA CHECK SEEKER. I'M, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE HE WAS GONNA CALL CHASE. I MEAN, AND, AND THIS WAS NOT, THIS WAS NOT BEING EVASIVE. THIS WAS, YEAH. I'M NOT SURE. IT'S JUST SO CONFUSING. AND HE'S LIVING WITH THIS DAY AND NIGHT. SO THE ONLY OTHER THING I COULD THINK OF, 'CAUSE I I DID UNDERSTAND WHY YOU PUT THE CITATIONS IN. IT'S MAYBE NEXT SUMMER WE, FOR OUR OWN, USE A CHECKLIST. YEAH, THAT'S, I LIKE THAT BETTER WHERE WE SAY, IF IT'S THIS, THEN THIS ASK FOR THIS SO THAT WE SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S X AND Y, THEN WE'RE GONNA ABSOLUTELY ASK FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. SO WE SORT OF HAVE A RECIPE FOR WHEN WE ARE RESPONDING, BECAUSE I LIKE THAT I PERSONALLY CAN NEVER RETAIN THIS. I, I JUST, RIGHT. IT DOESN'T STAY IN MY HEAD BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S SET UP. AND I KNOW IT WOULD TAKE TIME TO MAKE THE RECIPE, BUT I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE, OKAY, WHAT TYPE OF ACTION IS IT? IS IT THIS, IS IT THIS, IS IT THIS AND HAVE A REAL SIMPLE YEAH. DECISION THREE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU GO, OKAY, IT'S, IT, IT'S A TYPE ONE ACTION. GO TO GO TO, UH, SECTION THREE, READ WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. AND THEN WELL, YOU KNOW, THE STATES ALREADY PUBLISHED TWO OF THOSE , SORRY, THE STATE'S ALREADY PUBLISHED TWO OF THOSE. BUT I AGREE FOR, I WANT THE ONE PAGE VERSION, RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT THE ONES THAT, AND I THINK PETER AGREES IS A FAILURE IS BECAUSE ONE, THEY'RE CONFUSING AND TWO, THEY SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE LAW SAYS. THAT'S RIGHT. OTHER THAN THAT, THEY WERE VERY NICE RIGHT NOW, BUT, OKAY, SO IN THE SUMMER FOR THE C A C ONLY, I WILL TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A CHECKLIST OR DECISION LIST WITH [01:40:01] CROSS REFERENCES TO THE HARD DOCUMENT. OKAY. IS THAT OKAY? I MEAN, THAT'S A BIG TASK, BUT I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S BETTER THAN PREPARING A SECOND DOCUMENT. OKAY. AND I, I JUST, I JUST THINK FOR OUR USE, I AGREE, PETER, FOR OUR USE, WE NEED SOMETHING THAT WHEN SOMETHING COMES IN AND TWO, THREE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN HALF OF US AREN'T HERE, RIGHT. SOMEONE HAS A DOCUMENT THAT'S BEEN PASSED ON THAT WHEN SOMEBODY WHO'S DYING, TERRY BE DOING SOMETHING, YOU'RE GONNA BE TRAVELING. YOU'RE GONNA BE TRAVELING. YOU TOLD US ONCE YOU THIS OVER, THIS IS GONNA BE PERMANENT IN, IN PETER'S SUITCASE. HE'S NOT GONNA TRAVEL WITHOUT THIS. YEAH, EXACTLY. RIGHT. NOW THAT WE ZOOM, THERE'S NO REASON TO MISS A MEETING JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. RIGHT. , THAT'S TRUE. WITH ZOOM, YOU, DONNA, YOU DEAL WITH SEQL. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS THING? ABOUT THE IDEA ABOUT HAVING TWO DOCUMENTS? NO, NO. UH, JUST ABOUT THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. OH, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S GOOD. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT TERRY'S SAYING. IT IS A LITTLE CUMBERSOME, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT THAT THERE'S A REASON FOR IT. UM, AND I THINK IT'S GOOD. I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S CLEAR. YES. DID YOU, DID YOU, DID YOU FIND ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT, DONNA? 'CAUSE YOU DEAL WITH C YOU KNOW, I, I DEAL WITH SEEKER, BUT I'M NOT A PLANNER. SO WE HAVE PLANNERS IN OUR OFFICE WHO REALLY DEAL WITH IT MORE. UM, SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE, ALL THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL. I, THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE DOING THAT IN TERMS OF, OF KIND OF, ITS GROSS, UM, THRUST OF WHAT I WAS SAYING. IT DIDN'T, THAT DIDN'T NOTHING STRUCK YOU AS WRONG. JUST THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, FROM PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE, I GUESS THE O I DON'T THINK ANYTHING'S WRONG. I JUST KNOW FROM A PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THAT EISS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, RIGHT. AND THEY CAN BE A HINDRANCE TO, TO DEVELOPMENT. SO IF YOU WANNA ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO, TO REQUIRE THAT. AND WHAT YOU CAN REQUIRE INSTEAD, AND YOU KIND OF ALLUDE TO IT IN THIS DOCUMENT IS CALLED AN EXPANDED E A F OR AN E A F WITH SUPPLEMENTAL STUDIES, WHICH SOMETIMES IS, MAKES MORE SENSE IF IT'S NOT A LARGE PROJECT OR DOESN'T HAVE OBVIOUS SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. WELL, I CAN MAKE THAT A LITTLE, I CAN BEEF THAT UP ABOUT AN, AN EXPANDED E A F FOR SUPPLEMENTAL STUDIES. OKAY. MARGARET, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY, MARGARET? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITATIONS AND THE QUOTATIONS DID NOT BOTHER ME IN THE LEAST, BUT I THINK IT'S BECAUSE I SPEND A LOT OF TIMES READING WILLS AND TRUSTS AND YOU READ FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS. SO YEAH, IT DIDN'T BOTHER ME AT ALL. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I I I'M NOT PUT OFF BY THIS AT ALL IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY, ALTHOUGH I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I, I JUST, I THINK ON A NET BASIS BECAUSE, UH, IT'S NOT, I JUST, IT'S HIGH PROBABILITY THAT THIS WILL HAVE NO IMPACT IF WE DON'T QUOTE THIS AFTER THE LIE. YEAH. I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IT AS HAVING THE, HAVING THE QUOTES. THAT WASN'T MY POINT. I WAS LOOKING FOR FURTHER ON WHEN WE HAVE TO USE IT LATER ON THAT IT'S JUST EASIER TO GO THROUGH. UH, WELL JUST HOPE I DON'T DIE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AND THEN I'LL WALK THROUGH IT. WELL, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO'S MAKING PEOPLE DIE. THAT'S PETER'S, PETER'S, UH, AREA. . . I JUST ASKED THE QUESTION. THAT'S ALL . ANYWAY, IT'S, NO, IT'S WONDERFUL WORK, MIKE. AND IT EXPLAINS SECRET BETTER THAN ANYTHING I'VE SEEN. AND I THINK, UM, AND I THINK WHATEVER DOCUMENT THAT YOU PREPARE, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR INTERNAL USE HAS TO STAY IN OUR, IN OUR, IN OUR INTERNAL USE AND HAS TO HAVE SOME KIND OF HEADING ON IT FOR INTERNAL USE BY C A C ONLY. NOT A PUBLIC DOCUMENT OR SOMETHING FOR INTERNAL USE BY C A C ONLY, NOT A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. OKAY. GOT IT. YEAH, THAT SEEMS FAIR. AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS AIN'T, THIS AIN'T, THIS AIN'T THE FULL STORY. NO. AND I'M NOT GONNA MINUTE THIS AT ALL EITHER. OKAY. SO THE ONE THING WE DISCUSSED, WE DISCUSSED, WE DISCUSSED THE USAGE OF THE DOCUMENT. YES, YES, YES. I I MEAN PRESUMABLY YOU, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES ABOUT OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE. RIGHT? WELL, UM, , WE'RE PRETTY SKELETAL WITH SOME OF YOUR, WITH [01:45:01] SOME OF THE VOCABULARY THAT YOU AND MIKE WERE BOTH USING. IT'S A COLORFUL LANGUAGE. I HAVE THE SKELETAL FORM OF THE MINUTES. SOMETHING LIKE THE STATUS OF THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE WILL BE SUFFICIENT. RIGHT. UM, BUT, UM, OKAY, I WOULD LIKE, BEFORE I SEND THIS OUT NOW, SHARON SENT ME SOME COMMENTS. SHE'S GONNA SEND ME SUPPLEMENTAL COMMENTS ABOUT THIS. OKAY. UM, AND I'LL, AND I'LL GONNA DO THIS UP NOW, I WOULD LIKE, UH, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE C A C APPROVING THIS AND AUTHORIZING IT BEING SENT TO THE TOWN BOARD AND PLANNING BOARD. I SHALL MOVE THAT MIKE'S SECRET DOCUMENT, UM, BE SENT ON TO THE, UH, TOWN BOARD AND THE PLANNING BOARD. WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT FIRST. IT'D BE APPROVED. I, OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE DOCUMENT MIKE HAS SUBMITTED TO US WITH THE MINOR EDITS TO FOLLOW. UM, SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE, AYE. OKAY. NOW WE'RE GONNA DO ONE FOR SENDING IT ON I REC I MOTION THAT WE SEND ON THIS DOCUMENT TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THE PLANNING BOARD. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. NOW, NOW DO PEOPLE WANT TO SEND ME, UH, COMMENTS OVER THE NEXT WEEK? I'VE GOT TWO FROM ERIN, I MEAN TWO FROM SHARON AND I'LL, YOU KNOW, MARGARET, DO YOU HAVE ANY DONNIE, DONNA, IF YOU, UH, UH, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? I'LL ADD THIS ABOUT AN EXPANDED E A F WITH SUPPLEMENTAL STUDIES. UM, UH, ANYTHING ANYBODY WANTS TO, TO ADD? UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL FINALIZE THIS, YOU KNOW, IN A WEEK, BUT SEND, YOU KNOW, IN 10 DAYS, JUST SEND ME YOUR STUFF AND, UH, LET ME, LET ME, ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP IMPROVE THE LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MIKE, I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN YOU SAY AT 60 OR AT 1 78? IS THAT A PAGE NUMBER? YEAH. DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT A P? BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT. OKAY. YEAH. AND I JUST ASSUMED THAT'S WHAT IT MEANT, WHICH ISN'T ALWAYS GOOD WHEN YOU START ASSUMING THINGS. I I WILL ADD THAT. YEAH, I'LL ADD THAT NOW. ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND STILL KEEP IN THE SITE, YOU KNOW, UM, UM, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, THIS IS GONNA CAUSE SOME UPROAR. GOOD. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE HAPPY BECAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DON'T DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER. YEAH. NOT BEING, BUT THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO KEEP THESE STAY EVERY TIME I COULD STAY WITH THE CRAPPY LANGUAGE FROM SECRET. I CAN IMPROVE THIS LANGUAGE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO, MIKE, AS I SAY, I AM EMBARRASSED, BUT IT'S SO MANY YEARS, BUT IT ISN'T CLEAR IN MY HEAD. AND THAT'S TERRIBLE. BUT I JUST IS. WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN, LOOK, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. THIS IS, IT'S BEEN, THIS IS A 45 YEAR OLD STATUTE THAT NO ONE CAN UNDERSTANDS IT. IT'S NO ONE'S FAULT. IT'S JUST, IT'S IT IS A DAMN IMPORTANT STATUTE. OF COURSE. IT'S TOO BAD THEY DIDN'T WRITE IT SHORTER AND CLEARER. THEY UPDATED IT A FEW YEARS AGO TOO. YEAH. YEAH. PROBABLY MADE IT WORSE. THERE WAS NO EFFORT TO, TO DEAL WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF STUFF. UH, WE ALL DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? THIS HAS BEEN A, LIKE, FOR ME AT LEAST A NICE MEETING TO HAVE US ACTUALLY TALK TO ONE ANOTHER AND NOT JUST SIT THERE AND BE LISTENING. YES, I AGREE. IT'S, IT WAS BEEN AN INTERESTING MEETING. SOMETHING ELSE. I'M, WILL YOU SEE YOUR PUPPY? I'M SORRY. I WANNA SEE STEPHANIE'S PUPPY. OH, MY DAD. OH. AND THERE ACTUALLY IS SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH GOES TO THE THING ABOUT INVASIVE SPECIES. I, DOREEN HAD SENT ME A NOTE FROM A LADY WHO, UM, WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE INVASIVE SPECIES. I THINK SHE WAS LOOKING FOR THE CHANCE TO TAKE CARE OF ERADICATING THEM. AND I, I, IT'S LIKE ONE OF THOSE NOTES THAT FLIPPED UP ON THE LIST AND I NEVER TOOK CARE OF, BUT IT JUST, JUST NOW I THOUGHT OF IT. SO I THINK WE WILL BE RETURNING TO THAT ISSUE IN TERMS OF, I THINK GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE MORE AWARE OF THE, UM, INVASIVE SPECIES. WE SHOULDN'T FORGET ABOUT THAT ONE. OH, WE CAN TALK, UH, OH, OH, OH. A NICE WAY TO END THE MEETING. THERE HE IS. SAW LABRADOODLE. SO SWEET. IT'S A [01:50:01] AND A THIS STEPHANIE, WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR SAID HE'S A GOLDEN DUDE AND HE'S GOTTA BE THE CUTEST GOLDEN PDO. OH, HE, HE. GORGEOUS. BEAUTY. WHAT? . OH, AND THE DOG. I THINK HE'S, HE'S GONNA MISS YOU WHEN YOU GO TO COLLEGE. MAYBE SHE'LL TAKE HIM. YOU'LL COMFORT. COMFORT PET. YOU'RE IN THE 11TH DOG, STEPHANIE. WHAT? YOU'RE IN THE 11TH GRADE. YOU'RE A JUNIOR. YEAH, JUNIOR. WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY YOU GO VISIT SCHOOLS AS A JUNIOR. WHAT DO YOU DO NOW? UM, WELL, A LOT OF IT, UM, A LOT OF IT'S ONLINE NOW, SO LIKE, YOU CAN VIRTUALLY TOUR COLLEGES, BUT, UM, 'CAUSE OF MY, MY OLDER SIBLINGS, I'VE SEEN A BUNCH OF COLLEGES ALREADY, SO I KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA, LIKE AN ADVANTAGE OVER OTHER PEOPLE. BUT I KNOW FOR A LOT OF SENIORS, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, VISIT IT BEFORE YOU 100%, UH, AGREE TO LIKE GO THERE AND COMMIT. BUT IF YOU NARROW IT DOWN TO LIKE TWO SCHOOLS, I KNOW A LOT OF SENIORS, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS, THEY'RE GONNA GO THERE. ESPECIALLY IF IT'S LOCAL, THEY MIGHT VISIT. UM, SO IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING, BUT FIGURING IT OUT. DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GONNA APPLY TO? UH, I HONESTLY DON'T REALLY KNOW YET BECAUSE I GOTTA SEE, BUT, UH, PROBABLY GONNA, I'M GONNA PROBABLY APPLY TO, UM, PROBABLY SOME LOCAL SCHOOLS, LIKE NEW YORK SCHOOLS AND THEN, SO LIKE N Y U, FORDHAM, MAYBE BOSTON. SEE AND THEN FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE. SEE WHICH ONE'S INTERESTING. YEAH, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT WHEN'S THE APP? BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN OUR DAUGHTER WENT, THE APPLICATION WAS LIKE IN NOVEMBER THEY HAD TO GO IN OR SOMETHING. YEAH, IT'S UM, THEY CHANGED IT UP. NOW IT'S MORE KIND OF LIKE SENIOR YEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH COVID. OH. SO THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE TO FINISH LIKE APPLIC, UH, THE ESSAYS AND ALL THE APPLICATIONS BY LIKE DECEMBER, END OF DECEMBER, SORT OF IN A WAY, DEPENDING ON WHICH COLLEGE YOU WANNA DO, YOU COULD DO EARLY APPLICATIONS OR NOT, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AROUND SPRINGTIME. SO EXCITING. YEAH. YEAH. GOOD. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IT. AND JUST STEPHANIE, ABOUT YOU NEXT MEETING. MEETING, NEXT MEETING DATE IS JANUARY 28. 28TH. OKAY. BECAUSE PETER CAN'T WAIT . THAT'S OKAY. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THIS WAS A GOOD MEETING. SAY AT LEAST HE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE, EVEN IF IT'S ONLY TO A CAC C MEETING. BUT , NO, I LIKE C A C MEETINGS. UM, WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY? OH, JUST THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, I DID GET A NOTE FROM A NEIGHBOR OF DOREEN. SHE HAD SENT IT ON THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINING ABOUT INVASIVE SPECIES. AND I, I, AND I SAID IT GOT LOST IN THE LIST AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT JUST CAME INTO MY HEAD. IT WAS LIKE, OH, THAT MUST BE UP THERE SOMEWHERE IN MY INBOX THAT I DIDN'T ANSWER IT. BUT I THINK WE WILL GET BACK TO LIKE GETTING SOMETHING OUT AND ASKING PAUL TO CIRCULATE AS WE GO INTO WARMER WEATHER THAT PEOPLE START TO BECOME AWARE AS THEY GO OUT INTO THEIR GARDENS IN ABOUT ANOTHER MONTH AND A HALF, TWO MONTHS TO START LOOKING . YEAH. WE OUGHT PUT TOGETHER PULLING OUT, WE OUGHT PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING BASED ON WHAT STEPHANIE DID FOR PAUL TO CIRCULATE. YEAH. YEAH, BECAUSE YOU DID A NICE JOB ON THAT. YEAH. DO DO YOU WANT TO BE ON A, IT'S UP TO YOU STEPHANIE. DO YOU WANT TO BE ON, UH, YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING OF OF TOWN BOARD PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, PAUL FREQUENTLY, UM, FEATURES, UH, UH, STUDENTS, UH, UH, HE HAD, UM, UH, TWO, TWO FEATURES OF STUDENTS, UM, LAST NIGHT. DO YOU WANT TO, UH, DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE GET THIS DONE TO, TO BE FEATURED AND GIVE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION, UH, FIVE TO 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION ON INVASIVE IN A PUBLIC BOARD MEETING? UH, DEPENDS LIKE WHEN, BECAUSE I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT MY SCHEDULE, BUT YEAH, THAT'D BE GOOD. OKAY. IT, IT, IT'S NORMALLY WEDNESDAY NIGHTS AT SEVEN 30 RIGHT THERE. YES. OH, THAT'S FINE. WEDNESDAY NIGHTS ARE FINE. SO WE, WE, AS WE GO FORWARD, WE CAN WORK ON THAT AND, AND WE CAN SEE WHAT YOU WANNA DO AND YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THEN WE'LL ASK PAUL TO SCHEDULE IT. 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S ALSO A GOOD MEDIUM. 'CAUSE MEAN PEOPLE DO SOME, UM, EVEN IF THEY DON'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A DIFFERENT GROUP THAT BETWEEN WHO READS THE E-BLAST AND WHO ACTUALLY WATCHES THE TOWN BOARD MEETINGS TO AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMEONE. UM, AND MAYBE WE CAN, IF WE REALLY, IF WE REALLY GET THOUGHTFUL AND REMEMBER WE COULD PUT SOMETHING OUT ON NEXT DOOR ABOUT, THERE'LL [01:55:01] BE A PRESENTATION ON INVASIVE SPECIES BEFORE YOU GO OUT TO GARDEN. COME WATCH THIS AND SEE WHAT YOU SHOULD BE KILLING BEFORE IT KILLS YOUR PLANTS. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. SO I GUESS WE HAVE SOME POTENTIAL THERE TO DO SOMETHING. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? GO HAVE DINNER. GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY. GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY. STAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.