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UM, WITH,[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]
UM, OUR OPEN, UM, UNIT MEETING.UM, THE G A S R REPORT HAS BEEN POSTPONED TO FEBRUARY 10TH, 2021, AND WE'RE NOW GONNA HAVE OUR, UM, UM, AGENDA REVIEW.
WE HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND, AND WE'LL FILL IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
WE HAVE A VERY NICE PICTURE THAT THE FAMILY GAVE OF, UH, OF DORIS.
WE NEED CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THESE SO THAT THEY GET THE LINK.
SO WHAT WOULD'VE OCCURRED TONIGHT WITH GINA JACKSON WILL OCCUR TOMORROW NIGHT, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT.
WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS ON ELMWOOD, AND THERE THERE ARE NO DOCUMENTS THAT ARE POSTED WITH THE AGENDA ITSELF.
SHOULD WE BE, ERIC, SHOULD WE BE REFERRING OVER TO THE PLANNING BOARD PAGE? YES.
THE, UH, CD AND C PAGE HAS ALL THE ACTIVE TOWN BOARD CASES WHERE ALL THE DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE, UH, UH, D E I S ARE LOCATED.
UM, SO IF YOU WERE TO PUT A NOTE THERE OR A LINK, UM, WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE IS, I I CAN SEND YOU THAT.
I WILL, UH, SAME THING'S GONNA COME UP WITH THIS OTHER WINDOWS DOWN HERE.
WE HAVE ONLY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT, BUT WE'RE WAITING FOR DATA FROM THE VILLAGE.
SO THAT'S, WE HELD, UH, GARRETT IS THE SPECIAL PERMIT, THE LAST, UM, ACTION WE HAVE TO TAKE OR THERE ANY OTHER ACTIONS OF THE BRIGHTVIEW, UH, SPECIAL PERMIT AND SITE PLAN WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
AND UH, THAT WILL BE THE LAST TOWN BOARD ACTION.
DOES IT GO BEFORE ANY OTHER BOARDS? THE PLANNING BOARD IS CONCURRENTLY REVIEWING SUBDIVISION AND STEEP SLOPES.
SO WHEN WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE LIKE ALL THE, UM, FINAL APPROVALS ON THAT? UM, EITHER THIS MONTH OR, UH, BEGINNING OF MARCH.
SO THAT'S REALLY POSSIBLE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION COULD START THE SHARE.
I KNOW THEY NEED A LOT OF LEAD TIME PUTTING THE, THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION TOGETHER, BUT, UH, I DID SPEAK TO THEIR REP AND, UH, BRIGHTVIEW IS ACTIVE IN THE, THIS WESTCHESTER MARKET AND I THINK THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE THREE, UM, SITES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DELIVER IN WESTCHESTER.
UM, DOES SOMEBODY HAVE THE LOCAL WALL FOR THE HOTELS, MOTELS, AND ROOM HOUSES? YES, I HAVE IT AND I'LL SEND IT TO JOAN SO SHE CAN, UH, POST IT.
WHY DID I COME MUTE? WE HAVE A BUNCH OF TAX CERTS.
UH, MORE TAXER, MORE TAX CERTS, A PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIM.
I HAD A QUESTION FOR ED ON THE TAX CERTS.
UM, IN TERMS OF WHEN WE DID THE REASSESSMENT, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO.
SO, UM, EVERYONE WAS THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THE SEARCH WOULD GO DOWN, ALTHOUGH THERE'S STILL CERTS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY OR NOT AS MUCH AS YOU THOUGHT.
NO, UM, ACTUALLY WE ARE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE WITH, WITH WHAT I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO A LOT OF THESE TAX ARIES ARE CLEAN UP FROM PRIOR YEARS.
UH, WE HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING TAX ARIES THAT GO BACK 10 YEARS.
SO WHEN THE PROCESS OF CLEANING THEM UP AND EVEN IF THE PROPERTIES ARE DUE A REFUND SINCE WE DID THE REASSESSMENT, THEY'RE MINIMAL BECAUSE THE VALUES ARE SO CURRENT.
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED LEFT, A COUPLE HUNDRED.
WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT FOUR OR 500 LEFT THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CLEANING UP.
SO, UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE ON EVERY AGENDA YOU'LL SEE 6, 7, 8, 9 OF THEM.
IF WE HADN'T DONE THE REASSESSMENT, THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE REFUNDS RIGHT NOW.
IT WOULD BE, IN MY ESTIMATION, THERE WOULD BE THE SAME NUMBER
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OF CASES, BUT THE DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.THE, UH, CABLE SEEMS TO BE FROZEN.
ALRIGHT, WELL CONTAINED, WE HAVE THE RECORDING FROM THE MEETING ITSELF ALL.
SO THOSE ARE THE TAXER AND WE HAVE PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIM.
WELL, THE OFFENSE WORK, YOUR HONOR.
AND THEY CONTINUE ON TO PAY THE FIRM THAT IS WORKING ON, UH, ONE MONROE MILL ROAD MOST AND, UH, RELATED PAYING THE ATTORNEY DEALING WITH ATTORNEY'S COVERAGE THAT RETAIN, UH, RELATED TO THE, UH, CORPORATION.
AND WE HAVE A SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MARCH 10TH REGARDING NOISE.
AND TIM, ARE YOU, UH, FAMILIAR WITH THE EXTENSION OF THE WATER DISTRICT OR WOULD THAT BE RICH? I AM, BUT I'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH BOTH RICH AND BRIAN AND THEY'RE PREPARED TO DISCUSS IT, UH, ON THE 20 BOARD.
AND THEY'LL BE, MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATION.
WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE? IF, IF THAT WERE APPROVED? UM, WELL THEY'D HAVE TO CONSTRUCT IT, I'D SAY TWO MONTHS.
I'D HAVE TO CHECK, I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
NO, I'M ONLY ASKING IF IT WOULD AFFECT THE ASSESSMENT ROLE, THAT'S ALL.
RETAINING OUR CONSULTANT OR THIS ADVICE REGARDING SAFE RELATED TO THE BATTERY ENGINE STORAGE SYSTEM, EXECUTING THE GRANT AGREEMENT
AND LASTLY, THERE'S A AUTHORIZING CONTRACT WITH C B R E, WHICH WE, WE'VE PREVIOUSLY ENGAGED AND WASN'T DEALING WITH, UM, PROPOSED NEW COURTHOUSE AND THE TOWN COURT FACILITY.
YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I HAVE A QUESTION THAT MR. JACOBS IS ON THE, UH, ON THE CALL.
ARE WE DEALING WITH THAT IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION OR OPEN SESSION? I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT IN OPEN SESSION BECAUSE, UM, IT IMPACTS, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL.
SO TO START THE DISCUSSION, WELL, I THINK WE'LL START IN WITH MR. UH JACOBS.
HE HAS TO UNMUTE HIMSELF AND THIS INVOLVES A, UM, A LATE PAYMENT, UM, ON OUR TAXES THAT WE DO ON, UH, FEBRUARY 1ST, I BELIEVE AND NOTICE TO THE TAXPAYER OF THE SECOND YEAR PAYING FOR THE SCHOOL TAXES.
SO, MR. JACOBS, UM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED NOTICE.
UM, I KNOW THAT A NOTICE WAS MAILED, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING.
UM, BUT THAT SAID, WE RECEIVED A, A CHRISTMAS CARD FOR MY IN-LAWS LAST WEEK.
SO YOU KNOW, IT, IT VERY WELL MAY SHOW UP DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T RECEIVE IT BEFORE THE PAYMENT WAS DUE.
UM, AND NOW WE'RE BEING ASSESSED TO WHAT
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I THINK IS A REALLY EXORBITANT FEE, UM, $1,500 ON, ON TOP OF THIS, WHICH IS 10%.UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN LAID OFF DUE TO COVID.
UH, I HAVE, UH, AN 18 MONTH OLD BABY.
UM, AND SURELY THERE ARE OTHER FAMILIES RIGHT NOW DEALING WITH SIMILAR ISSUES DUE TO COVID AND SIMILAR HARDSHIPS.
UM, AND I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE IN THE, CERTAINLY IN THE TOWN'S BEST INTEREST TO ALLEVIATE THAT PRESSURE ON ANY RESIDENTS WHO MIGHT BE FEELING THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I'M, I'M NOT ASKING FOR A REBATE ON THE TAXES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT SOME TYPE OF GRACE PERIOD I THINK WOULD BE VERY REASONABLE.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE 90 DAY GRACE PERIOD THAT THE TOWN PUT IN PLACE LAST APRIL.
UM, I DON'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, 90 DAYS WAS, WAS GREAT LAST YEAR.
UM, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT IS NECESSARY NOW, BUT SOME TYPE OF GRACE PERIOD.
UM, JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE CITIZENS OF GREENBERG WHO ARE REALLY GOING THROUGH A HARD TIME RIGHT NOW AND, AND TAKING SUCH A HIGH ASSESSMENT OR LATE FEE, UM, WHEN PEOPLE ARE READY TO PAY IN FULL.
SO SHORTLY AFTER THE DEADLINE SEEMS UNREASONABLE AND NOT IN THE TOWN'S BEST INTEREST.
UM, UH, TIM, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY, UH, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS ON, UM, ON THIS? UM, YOU KNOW, HE DOES HAVE, UM, HE IS UNEMPLOYED.
UH, HE, UM, TRIED PAYING LIKE A COUPLE DAYS LATE AND 10% PENALTY DEFINITELY IS, UH, I MEAN IT'S, I KNOW IT'S THE LAW, BUT IT IS, IT IS A HARSH, YOU KNOW, PENALTY.
UH, I THINK IT WAS LIKE $1,500 YOU SAID.
SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IN GENERAL THE STANDARD ON WAIVING PENALTIES IS, UM, WHETHER IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN AND THE, THE TOWN BOARD HAS TO LOOK AT DETERMINATION AND AS I, AS I DISCUSSED WITH MR. JACOBS, YOU KNOW, EVERY, UM, TAX DEADLINE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE WHO FOR ONE REASON BY ANOTHER, UM, DON'T, DON'T GET THEIR TAXES IN, SOMETIMES IT'S FIVE STATE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE BANKS FAULT.
UM, GENERALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE SECOND HALF OF THE SCHOOL TAXES AS OPPOSED TO THE FIRST HALF, THERE IS NO NOTICE THAT GOES OUT TO LINE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T PAY THE FULL AMOUNT IN SEPTEMBER.
BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, I THINK THE TAX RECEIVER'S OFFICE DID SEND OUT A NOTICE THAT THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO, UM, TO EVERYBODY WHO DIDN'T PAY ON JANUARY, JANUARY 10TH.
SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH MR. JACOBS AND, YOU KNOW, NO, YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAIN SYMPATHETIC TO THE SITUATION.
I KNOW
LET ME, UH, ASK, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD LIKE A QUESTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I STILL FEEL THAT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A PRECEDENT, UM, WHEN THE STATE AUTHORIZED US TO, UH, PROVIDE, UM, EXTENSIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAD COVID RELATED HARDSHIPS FOR THE TOWN TAXES.
AND, UM, THE COUNTY, UH, YOU KNOW, TAXES WAY BACK IN APRIL, THEY EXTENDED IT TILL JULY.
AND THAT WAS A DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE COUNTY, UH, AUTHORIZED THE, UM, YOU KNOW, AUTHORIZED EXEMPTION.
BUT LET'S SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, LET'S SAY YOU WOULD TAKE THE SAME, UM, SORT OF CONCEPT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO TRULY HAS HAD A CO COVID RELATED HARDSHIP AND THEY PAY, UM, BETWEEN SAY FEBRUARY 1ST AND FEBRUARY 28TH, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE INSTEAD OF A 10% PENALTY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE IT A 2% PENALTY AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTABLE AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SHOW A LITTLE, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, A DESIRE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT, UH, MAKE IT LESS, UH, YOU KNOW, ONEROUS.
WE COULD SAY A PERSON HAS TO BE OUT OF WORK, UM, HAS TO, UM, HAVE A COVID, YOU KNOW, COVID RELATED, UH, YOU KNOW, SITUATION OF, YOU KNOW, UNEMPLOYMENT.
YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST BEND A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, UM, AGAIN, $1,500 IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE DAYS LATE, EVEN IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS DEFINITELY LIKE VERY, VERY UNUSUAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, TIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH COVID, UH, YOU, THE MALE'S NOT AS AC AS GOOD AS IT USED TO BE.
SO I, I PERSONALLY COULD LIVE WITH LIKE MODIFICATIONS, UM, IN THIS, YOU KNOW, INSTANCE.
AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT GONNA
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BE THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, IN MY OPINION.AND IT WOULD BE A ONE SHOT, UH, SITUATION ONLY, UH, YOU KNOW, DURING THE, THE COVID RELATED, YOU KNOW, CRISIS WHICH WE'RE IN WOULD REALLY LIMIT THE PRESIDENTIAL VALUE OF ANY TYPE OF DECISION THE BOARD WOULD MAKE.
OF COURSE, WHEN ONCE THE CRISIS IS OVER, PEOPLE COULDN'T SAY, I WANT TO CITE THIS AS A REASON TO NOT HAVE A FEE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD BASE IT ON THE, UH, ON WHAT THE STATE AUTHORIZED, UM, FOR THE LAST, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TOWN, TOWN COUNTY TAXES, IT'S NOT REALLY GONNA HURT THE TOWN ON, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT MUCH.
WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE COULD EVEN SAY THEY HAVE UNTIL, UM, FEBRUARY 15TH TO PAY THE, THE TAXES AT WITH A EITHER NO PENALTY OR A LIMITED PENALTY.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE, THE TOWN'S NOT REALLY GONNA BE LOSING, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE TO GUARANTEE THE SCHOOL TAXES, UM, IF WE MAKE THE PERSON PAY AND FILL, THERE'S VIRTUALLY NO, YOU KNOW, NO NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE TOWN.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I JUST REALLY, UH, FEEL THAT IF WE JUST BEND OVER BACKWARDS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CONSTITUENTS, YOU ARE STRUGGLING, YOU KNOW, I FEEL IT'S REALLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN MY OPINION.
AND YOU ARE NOT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE GOAL OF THE TOWN IS NOT TO MAKE $1,500 AND TO UTILIZE PEOPLE.
THE GOAL OF THE TOWN IS TO COLLECT THE TAXES, AND MR. JACOBS WAS WILLING TO PAY FULL AMOUNT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THREE DAYS AFTER THE, THE DEADLINE.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE SO STRESSED OUT OVER, UM, OVER, YOU KNOW, THE COVID RELATED, YOU KNOW, CRISIS.
YOU KNOW, I I I WOULD RATHER, YOU KNOW, MAKE PEOPLE LESS STRESSED THAN, YOU KNOW, THE MORE STRESSED.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD COULD REALLY THINK ABOUT IT.
AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE ONLY A VERY LIMITED SITUATION ONLY DURING THE COVID CRISIS, AND WE COULD ONLY LIMIT IT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT OF WORK AND HAVE HARDSHIPS.
AND I BET YOU WOULD SAY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE AROUND THE TOWN.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ABOUT TO GET LEGAL ADVICE AS YOU WERE AWARE FOR.
WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS WITHOUT STATE, UH, AUTHORIZATION TO DO IT.
UH, IT OPENS UP WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S FAVORITISM INVOLVED AND WHO YOU, WHO GETS IT, WHO WE BELIEVE TO BE, UH, NOTWORTHY IF THE RECEIV TAX HERE, UH, SHE WOULD BE SAYING THAT THE, THE EX SCHOOL TAX IS ACTUALLY DUE IN SEPTEMBER.
THE ENTIRE AMOUNT IS DUE IN SEPTEMBER, BUT THERE IS A GRACE PERIOD FOR HALF OF IT THAT GETS YOU TO JANUARY.
AND SO, UH, WHAT YOU'RE REALLY SAYING IS THERE SHOULD BE A GRACE PERIOD ON THE GRACE PERIOD, UH, FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE SCHOOL TAX.
AND IT'S, IT'S A HORRIBLE SITUATION THAT MANY HAVE GONE THROUGH AND YOU INVITED PEOPLE IN, UH, IN THE PAST AS TO, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT A PANDEMIC AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY SHOULD DO.
BUT THEN ULTIMATELY, UM, YOU HAVE, AGAIN, LEGAL COUNSEL, YOU JOIN THE REST OF THE BOARD AND NOT APPROVE.
I JUST FEEL THAT THIS IS REALLY A DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT THE STATE DID CREATE, UH, THE, UM, THE EXEMPTIONS, UM, IN APRIL.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF THE STATE, I THINK THE GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATURE WANTED, UM, TO SHOW SOME COMPASSION BECAUSE OF, UH, THE COVID RELATED, YOU KNOW, HARDSHIPS.
UH, YOU KNOW, MR. JACOBS WAS WORKING.
UM, AND IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, CO YOU KNOW, IF HE DIDN'T HAVE A COVID RELATED CRISIS, I SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE WE JUST TREAT IT THE SAME WAY, BUT I, I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT IF WE HAD A VERY NARROW, UM, UH, UH, EXEMPTION AND IF WE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE MADE IT AVAILABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ANYONE, MAYBE WE COULD TRY GETTING OR ANN PAVELA ON THE PHONE FINDING OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE, UH, THIS WOULD APPLY TO.
UH, SOMETIMES PEOPLE, PEOPLE REALLY APPRECIATE WHEN THEY FEEL THAT GOVERNMENT IS BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO, UM, TO WORK WITH 'EM.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE'D BE A ONE MONTH EXTENSION ON THE JANUARY PAYMENT AND A ONE MONTH EXTENSION ON THE APRIL PAYMENTS? NO, IT WOULD BE A ONE MONTH.
WE WOULD DO A ONE MONTH EXTENSION ON THE JANUARY PAYMENT.
UM, OR IT COULD BE EVEN A, A TWO WEEK EXTENSION.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE COULD, UH, MR. JACOBS IS WILLING
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TO PAY THE WHOLE AMOUNT TODAY, TOMORROW WITHOUT THE PENALTY.SO WE COULD BASE, SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE SAY, UM, IT'S A, LET'S SAY TWO WEEK EXEMPTION, UH, OR A MONTH, ONE MONTH EXEMPTION UNTIL END OF FEBRUARY IF, IF YOU WANT.
UM, AND, UM, WE WOULD THEN, UM, IF YOU WANTED, UM, WE COULD HAVE HAD A VERY SLIGHT, YOU KNOW, PENALTY, YOU KNOW, NOT, YOU KNOW, 1500, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE $1,500, THE 10% WE SAY 2% PENALTY OR WHATEVER.
JUST IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE PRECEDENT AND, UM, AND WOULD HAVE TO BE ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO, UM, BECAUSE OF COVID, YOU KNOW, ANY, IT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT OF WORK AND THEY WOULD HAVE LIKE A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO PAY THE FULL AMOUNT.
IT'S, IT'S SUCH A MINOR AMOUNT IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET IMPACT.
UH, AND AGAIN, IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE LIKE MR. JACOBS FEEL THAT LEASE THE TALENT IS, IS LISTENING TO, IS TRYING TO WORK WITH HIM.
BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE INNOCENTLY FORGET TO PAY THEIR TAXES.
YOU KNOW, THIS WAS NOT INTENTIONAL ON MR. JACOB'S PART.
SO HE LEARNED, UH, THAT HE WAS LATE, YOU KNOW, HE TRIED PAYING THREE DAYS LATER AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WAS A $1,500 PENALTY.
SO I'M SURE THAT 99% OF THE PEOPLE WOULD BE LIKE SO FURIOUS AND SO UPSET ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S A $1,500 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR, FOR PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, $1,500 PENALTY FOR THREE DAYS TO ME IS NOT REALLY FEAR.
AND I WOULD ADD, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S RECORD UNEMPLOYMENT AT THE MOMENT, UM, AND CERTAINLY OTHER PEOPLE ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED TO MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.
AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, THE $1,500 PENALTY, UH, IS ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PAYING IN OUR, UM, EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE COBRA INSURANCE PREMIUMS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE NO EMPLOYMENT IN THE HOUSEHOLD.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PAY THIS $1,500 PENALTY FOR THREE DAYS OR, OR, UH, STAY INSURED AND YOU KNOW, MY WIFE IS PREGNANT AND SURELY THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE SIMILARLY SITUATED.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THE ARGUMENT THAT TAKING THAT $1,500 IS IN THE TOWN'S BEST INTEREST, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT HAS SUCH A MINOR BUDGETARY IMPACT, AS MR. FINER SAID.
AND YOU KNOW, I JUST REMEMBERED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, UM, DURING THE FORECLOSURE PROCESS, WE DID, UH, HAVE A, AND THIS AMNESTY A ONE TIME AMNESTY BEFORE WE STARTED THE FORECLOSURES.
UH, ISN'T THAT TRUE, TIM, DO YOU REMEMBER? I DON'T RECALL, BUT IT COULD BE TRUE.
I'M ALMOST LIKE POSITIVE THAT WE HAD A SHORT TERM AMNESTY BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GET TO, UM, THE, UH, THE TAXES.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE WERE TRYING TO AVOID THE FORECLOSURES.
SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FOR US, IF WE DO THIS, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A MAJOR, NOT GONNA BE MA A MAJOR IMPACT FOR THE TOWN, FOR MR. JACOBS.
IF WE DON'T DO IT, IT IS GONNA BE MAJOR.
AND IF THERE, THERE MAY BE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT.
THERE MAY BE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE IF WE DON'T DO IT.
I THINK IT'S, UM, I THINK IT'S WRONG AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THOSE OF US IN GOVERNMENT SOMETIMES SHOULD, SHOULD TRY, UM, THINKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD WE DO TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE PEOPLE A LITTLE LESS STRESSED? AND I'M NOT SAYING THE, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT TO PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH ME BECAUSE ONCE YOU SET A PRECEDENT, UM, THEN IT CREATES, IT CREATES PROBLEMS LATER ON.
BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST ASKING IN THIS INSTANCE, IN THIS SITUATION, IF WE COULD AT LEAST CONSIDER, CONSIDER IT AND THEN MAYBE GET BACK TO MR. JACOB'S.
UH, WE SHOULDN'T REALLY MAKE A DECISION, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT HIM TO RUN UP, YOU KNOW, A LARGE PENALTY.
SO YOU WANNA GIVE THIS SOME THOUGHT AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN ADVISE, UM, MR. JACOBS AND A COUPLE OF DAYS OR, YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, WE REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS BE, BECAUSE I THINK ONE, ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE HERE IS THERE COULD HAVE BEEN OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT'VE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY PAID THEIR TAXES AND MIGHT'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT WAS DONE BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE DATE AND SAYING WE'RE EXTENDING THE DATE THAT, THAT'S WHERE I, UM, I SEE THE, THE ISSUE AS WELL.
SO WHAT, HOW, WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON THAT? WHETHER THE PEOPLE WHO PAID LATE AND ALREADY PAID A FEE AND DO YOU REFUND THAT FEE TO THEM BECAUSE NOT HAVE THIS POLICY? RIGHT.
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THAT'S NUMBER ONE.BUT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT, THAT PAID THEIR TAXES HAD TO, YOU KNOW, GET IT FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE AND, AND COULD HAVE USED THE EXTENSION OF TIME AS WELL.
SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT IMPACT THAT WOULD BE.
WE DO SOMETHING AFTER THE FACT.
WE NEED TO ASSESS THAT SITUATION AND SEE WHO ELSE IS GONNA BE IMPACTED BY THIS.
AND REALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF ANNE NEEDS TO WEIGH IN AS WELL WITH, WITH RESPECT.
WELL CERTAINLY WE NEED TO CHECK THOSE FACTS WITH ANNE.
SO WE NEED TO TALK IT OVER WITH ANNE.
AND ANNE IS THE, UH, THE TAX RECEIVER, WHICH I, I THINK UNDERSTOOD.
SO MR. JACOBS, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU AND, AND, AND NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE FOR SURE.
AND, AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
ALRIGHT, PAUL, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? I'M MAKE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PERSONNEL, UM, CONTRACTS.
LITIGATION, DEFINITELY PERSONAL, INVOLVING PARTICULAR PEOPLE IN TOWN GET LEGAL ADVICE.
AND WE'RE NOT COMING BACK AS GREAT.