* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WELCOME TO, UH, [00:00:01] NEW GREENBERG, UH, TOWN BOARD MEETING. UM, TODAY IS, UH, FEBRUARY 23RD AND IT'S SIX 13, UM, U P M. AND THE FIRST ITEM IS, UH, THE GREENBERG, UM, HOUSING, UM, YOU AUTHORITY. THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY IS PLANNING TO, UM, DO SOME RENOVATIONS. UM, AND, UM, UM, SOME PEOPLE HAD, UM, EXPRESSED, UM, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE PROCESS OF THE GOING THROUGH. SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UH, ROGER ABRAHAM AND, UH, BISHOP PRESTON. MAYBE YOU COULD TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU, UH, PLAN TO DO AND, UM, AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. AND YOUR ATTORNEY, JOHN SAVAGE. YES. GREAT. THANK YOU, PAUL. UH, BUT WHATEVER WE PLAN TO DO IS TO HAVE JOHN SAVAGE TO GO THROUGH THE PARTICULARS AND ANSWER THE, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE OUT THERE, AND IF, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ANSWER, WE'LL TRY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE FLOATING AROUND THE COMMUNITY ON THE PROJECT OF THE SCATTERED SITES, WHICH IS EIGHT FIVE UNITS. SO, UH, ASK JOHN TO GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, GIVE HIS PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING ALL. HOW'S EVERYONE DOING? GOOD, GOOD ONE. GOOD JOB. AS, AS I BELIEVE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE, UM, THE GREENBURG HOUSING AUTHORITY RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM HUD UNDER SECTION 22 OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSING ACT OF 1937 TO REPOSITION THE SCATTERED SITE PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS TO A MORE SUSTAINABLE FUNDING PLATFORM IN ORDER TO MEET ITS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR LOW INCOME HOUSING OBJECTIVES. WE ALL KNOW THAT HUD HAS REALLY, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, REALLY STOPPED SUBSIDIZING, UH, LOW INCOME HOUSING AND REALLY IS MOVING HOUSING AUTHORITIES OUT OF THE PUBLIC HOUSING MARKET. AND SO THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, HAS BEEN REPOSITIONING ITS INVENTORY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN BE, CONTINUE TO OFFER LOW INCOME HOUSING TO THE GREENBERG COMMUNITY. AND SO AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, UH, GREENBURG HOUSING AUTHORITY IS FOCUSING, UH, ON A REDEVELOPMENT AND REHABILITATION, IF YOU WILL, OF THE SCATTER SITE, UH, HOUSING THAT'S 85 UNITS AND FIVE SCATTERED, SCATTERED GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS IN THE UNINCORPORATED TOWN OF GREENBURG. AND THIS PROJECT WILL INVOLVE THE GUT REHABILITATION OF THOSE 85 UNITS IN ALL OF THOSE, IN ALL OF THOSE SCATTERED SITES, IN ALL OF THOSE SCATTERED SITES. AND AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, G H A WILL OFFER ALL FAMILIES AT THE SCATTERED SITES WHO QUALIFY FOR HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER ASSISTANCE. UM, THEY WILL OFFER THEM ASSISTANCE, AND THESE FAMILIES WILL BE OFFERED THE OPTION TO USE THE TENANT-BASED ASSISTANCE OFFSITE IN THE PRIVATE MARKET IF THEY CHOOSE, OR TO USE THAT ASSISTANCE TO RETURN TO THEIR CURRENT UNITS. ONCE THOSE UNITS ARE REHABILITATED. AND FOR FAMILIES WHO CHOOSE TO MOVE OFFSITE WITH THE TENANT-BASED ASSISTANCE AT THE TIME OF CONVERSION, THOSE RELOCATION EXPENSES WILL BE PAID IN ENTIRELY BY THE PROJECT OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT BUDGET. AND FOR THOSE FAMILIES THAT CHOOSE TO REMAIN IN THEIR UNITS, UH, USING THE TENANT BASED ASSISTANCE WE HAVE, WE WILL HAVE TO RELOCATE THESE FAMILIES ON A TEMPORARY BASIS IN ORDER TO REHABILITATE THE UNITS. I MEAN, WE CANNOT DO THE GUT REHAB WITH THE FAMILIES PRESENT, SO WE'LL HAVE TO, UM, RELOCATE THOSE FAMILIES TEMPORARILY WHILE THE REDEVELOPMENT OR REHABILITATION PROCESS OCCURS. AND AGAIN, THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL BE PAYING ALL OF THE ASSOCIATED RELOCATION EXPENSES TO AND FROM THE SITE. SO MOVING THEM FROM THE SITE AND RETURNING THEM TO THE SITE. ONCE THE REHABILITATION HAS OCCURRED, AND AFTER THE REHABILITATION IS COMPLETE, THE FAMILIES WILL BE ABLE TO RETURN TO THE SITE AND CONTINUE TO USE THEIR TENANT-BASED, UH, HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER ASSISTANCE WITH RESPECT TO THOSE UNITS. THAT IN SOME SUBSTANCE IS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH RESPECT TO THE SCATTERED SITES. WE, WE'VE HEARD THESE SPURIOUS ALLEGATIONS THAT 80, THAT 99 OR A HUNDRED PEOPLE OR A HUNDRED FAMILIES, IF YOU WILL, WILL BE EVICTED. THAT IS NOT HAPPENING. NO ONE IS BEING EVICTED. UH, WHAT WILL, AGAIN, WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING IS THAT FAMILIES WILL HAVE TO BE TEMPORARILY RELOCATED NOR FOR THE, UH, REHABILITATION PROCESS TO OCCUR. AND THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO RETURN ARE, ARE WELCOME TO RETURN. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE MAJOR FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE HAVE HAS INSISTED THAT NO ONE, NO FAMILY BE PERMANENTLY DISPLACED AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT. SO WE JUST WANTED TO, UH, PRESENT AND LET THIS, THE TOWN BOARD AND THE, THE GREENBURG COMMUNITY KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT IS, WILL, WILL BE BRINGING 34 30 $5 MILLION OF FUNDING TO THE TOWN OF [00:05:01] GREENBURG WILL RESULT IN, UH, A GUT REHABILITATION OF WHAT'S HAS WHAT IS NOW DETERIORATED PROPERTY AND RESULT IN A, A HIGH QUALITY, AFFORDABLE, LOW-INCOME HOUSING TO THROUGH THE GREENBERG RESIDENTS. AND THOSE RE RESIDENTS WHO ARE CURRENTLY AT THE SITE WHO CHOOSE TO RETURN WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN AND TO BASICALLY BRAND NEW UNITS. AND THAT IN SOME, IN SUBSTANCES WHERE WE STAND. MR. I I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SORRY. GO. SORRY. YOU GO FIRST. OKAY. JOHN, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU SAID SOMETHING, YOU SAID YOU WERE OFFER ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE WHO ARE QUALIFIED. CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT? BECAUSE I DID, I DID. THAT WORD QUALIFIED JUST KIND OF JUMPED OUT AT ME. SO IF, IF I'M LIVING IN A SCATTER SITES AND, UM, I'M TOLD I'M GOING TO BE DISPLACED WHILE WELL NOT DISPLACED, I'M GOING TO BE MOVED TEMPORARILY TO A TEMPORARY PLACE UNTIL THEY DO THE WORK. DO I HAVE TO REQUALIFY TO GET TO COME BACK TO THE STATUS TO COME BACK TO THIS LOCATION? I JUST, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEANT, WHAT YOU MEAN BY QUALIFY. WELL, WITH RESPECT THERE, THE, THE REALITY IS THAT THERE ARE SOME WHO ARE OVER INCOME AT THE SITE. OKAY. SO THEY MAY NOT QUALIFY FOR SECTION EIGHT ASSISTANCE WHEN THEY COME BACK, BUT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THE SITE. OKAY. BUT THEY THEN, SO, SO THEIR RENT WOULD BE BASED ON MARKET RENT. HOW WOULD THE, HOW WOULD THE RENT THEY, THEY, THAT'S HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED, MS. JACKSON. UM, SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH RESPECT TO THOSE WHO ARE, UM, IF YOU WILL, MAY, THEY MAY BE OVER INCOME, BUT THEY WILL BE ALLOWED BACK TO THE SITE. THEY WILL BE, THEY WILL NOT BE FORCED FROM THE SITE. MM-HMM. , SO I, I HAVE A, JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. WILL, WILL THEY RECEIVE THIS NOTICE WITH THAT, UH, WITH THAT WORDING SO THAT THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE ABLE TO COME BACK IN? OH, A, ABSOLUTELY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, AS PART OF SECTION, THE SECTION 22 APPROVAL, WHAT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE UNIFORM RELOCATION ACT IS THAT, UH, NOTICES GO OUT TO EACH OF THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS, UH, BASICALLY LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THIS, UH, THIS DISPOSITION IS OCCURRING AND THAT, UH, THEY HAVE 90 DAYS BEFORE THEY HAVE TO VACATE. AND AS PART OF THAT NOTICE, IT WILL SET FORTH THAT THEY HAVE, UM, THIS ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE. YES. OKAY. AND TO ADD TO THAT, WE HAVE HAD, UH, SEVERAL SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS WITH THE RESIDENTS INFORMING THEM OF THE PROCESS AND WHAT, AND WHAT THEY, UH, WHAT THE PROCESS IS. AND WE WOULD HAVE OTHER MEETINGS AT, UH, AS WE GO ALONG, UH, WE, WE TRY EVERY, EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO KEEP THEM INFORMED AND LET THEM KNOW EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS. SO THEY HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY ZOOM MEETINGS. OUR LAST ZOOM MEETING, THERE WAS SOMETHING, ALMOST 60 PEOPLE WERE THERE AT THE ZOOM MEETING. I'M SORRY, PAUL. LEMME JUST JUMP JUST ONE, I'M SORRY. SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE JUST NOT COMPUTER SAVVY, WHO DO, WHO DOES NOT USE ZOOM, ARE THERE LETTERS GOING OUT IN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ADDITION TO THE, THE, THE IN-PERSON OR THE ZOOM MEETINGS, IF YOU WILL, ARE THERE LETTERS GOING TO EACH, TO EACH FAMILY AND, AND IS THERE A DIFFERENT LETTER ACCORDING TO EACH, EACH CIRCUMSTANCE? THERE ARE NOT. GO AHEAD, BISHOP. YEAH. YES. LETTUCE HAS GONE OUT TO EACH FAMILY, UM, AND FALL TO, UH, GET THIS PRI GET THE FUNDING, UM, THE FUNDING IS AC ACTUALLY ALLOCATED AT, ON PER UNIT. AND BY BEING ALLOCATED ON, PER UNIT EACH, PER EACH, UH, UNIT THAT EACH PERSON THAT LIVES IN THE UNIT HAS TO BE, UH, RE-CERTIFIED AND, AND TO MAKE SURE SO THE FUNDING CAN BE PROPER AND MATCH WITH, UH, WHATEVER THE, UH, SCOPE OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WE CAN GET THEM THEM FROM THEM FOR THAT. SO, SO THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. I THINK THEY'RE BASICALLY FINISHED THAT PROCESS WITH MAYBE A COUPLE PEOPLE MAY, UH, I THINK, AND, AND, AND SO WE'VE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH THEM AND, AND EVERYBODY'S BEEN COOPERATING QUITE WELL. WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE TO GET FINISHED WHAT BE FINISHED WITH THAT CERTIFICATION PROCESS. SO JUST, JUST ADD, I'M SORRY, PAUL, I'M, I'M SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO TAKE THE QUESTIONS. I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GET ANYTHING BEFORE I HAVE TO DROP OFF. SO THE RECERTIFICATION, IS THAT THE, THROUGH THE HUD CERTIFIC HUDS RECERTIFICATION, OR IS THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES RECERTIFICATION? WELL, IT'S SAID, I THINK I HEARD THERE WAS TWO. SO THAT'S, IT'S THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES RE-CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY A HUD ANNUALLY. OKAY. AND IT'S BASED ON, IT'S BASED ON HUD'S GUIDELINES? YES. BUT IT'S, ACCORDING TO HUD GUIDELINES, IT'S REQUIRED BY A HUD ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. I'M DONE, PAUL. SORRY. OKAY. UH, THE QUESTION I HAD IS, I GOT A CALL TODAY FROM, UM, SOMEBODY WHO LIVES AT THE, A WOMAN WHO LIVES, UM, WITH, UM, UH, SEVEN CHILDREN AT THE SECRET ROAD, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, COMPLEX. AND, UH, SHE'S CONCERNED BECAUSE, UM, HER KIDS ARE [00:10:01] DOING REALLY WELL AND, UM, THE RZA SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND SHE WANTS HER CHILDREN TO, UM, CONTINUE TO GO TO THE ORZO SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE THE RENOVATIONS ARE HAPPENING, ARE, ARE TAKING PLACE. SO, UH, I'M WONDERING, UM, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE COULD SHE GET DURING THIS RELOCATION? UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT EFFORTS ARE BEING MADE TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT OUR, HER KIDS COULD CONTINUE TO STAY IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE, YOU KNOW, ONE IS IN SPORTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY ARE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, WOULD BE REALLY TRAUMATIC FOR THEM IF, UH, THEY LOST THAT. UM, IF, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SALLY, A DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS RETAINED THE HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL TO WORK WITH EACH RESIDENT, AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH EACH RESIDENT, UH, INDIVIDUALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES OF EACH CASE ARE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT. AND THE HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL WILL BE WORKING WITH THE FAMILIES TO TRY AND MAKE SURE, TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE, UM, THAT THEY STAY AS CLOSE TO THEIR CURRENT, UH, RESIDENCE AS POSSIBLE AND TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE VARIOUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT MAY BE INVOLVED SO THAT THE, THAT THE AFFECTED FAMILIES AND CHILDREN WILL NOT BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED IN TERMS OF CHANGING SCHOOLS. SO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE TEMPORARY RENT COULD BE MORE THAN YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE PAYING? RIGHT. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THEY WILL NOT BE PAYING ANY MORE THAN THEY'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW. ANY, EVEN IF THE RENT, UH, OF A PARTICULAR UNIT IS, UM, IS, UM, EXCEEDS WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY PAYING, THE PROJECT WILL PICK UP THE DIFFERENCE. SO THE FAMILY IS NOT GOING TO PAY ANY MORE RENT THAN IT'S PAYING NOW IN ITS CURRENT UNIT. MM-HMM. , AND ALSO THOSE PEOPLE IN, IN DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, IF WE CANNOT FIND A RELOCATION, UH, UH, UH, PREMISES IN THE, IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING INTO THE, UH, RELOCATION BUDGET FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR THEM TO GET BACK AND FORTH TO, THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE SAME SCHOOL DISTRICT. YES. THAT'S GOOD. COULD YOU MAYBE, UH, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING, HOW ALL OF THE UNITS ARE, AND THE CONVICTION OF THE UNITS, AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE REVENUES, YOU KNOW, SOURCES. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'D JUST LIKE TO, I, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? I MEAN, HOW ARE THE, ARE THE EXISTING UNITS I'LL DEFER TO MR. ABRAHAM ON THAT. GOOD EVENING, MR. FINE. THE UNITS ARE MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD. THEY'VE BEEN BUILT IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES, AND MOST OF THE BUILDINGS ARE OUTDATED. I WOULD SAY THE LAST TIME, UH, HUD HAD GIVEN US ANY MONEY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, USE CAPITAL DOLLARS ON THIS FARM ON THOSE PROPERTIES WAS IN EARLY 2010. YOU KNOW, WE CHANGED A FEW BATHROOMS ON QUEL ROAD AND, UM, GREEN BEAR CIRCLE. SO OVER THE YEARS, I WOULD SAY FROM 2010, NO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT WAS DONE ON THOSE PROPERTIES BECAUSE HUD'S FUNDING HAS BEEN GOING DOWN OVER THE YEARS DRAMATICALLY, YOU KNOW, AND THE COST ALSO HAS GONE UP. SO IN FACT, YOU DO, UM, A MAJOR REHAB, WHICH INCLUDES ABATEMENT PROCESS ON THIS PROPERTIES. YOU HAVE TO GET INTO A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IN HERE. AND IS A PUB IS A PUBLIC, YOU PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ARE, WILL, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SOME PEOPLE WILL INTERPRET IT, THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL LOSE, YOU KNOW, SOME CONTROL OR THE RENT COULD LAND UP, BURN UP, YOU KNOW, LATER ON? BECAUSE I GUESS THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY FIXING IT UP AND, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY DOWNSIDES FOR THIS? JUST SPEAKING FROM THE TENANT SIDE, NOT FROM, UH, THE, THE LANDLORD SIDE? WELL, MR. SUPERVISOR, UH, PLEASE RECOGNIZE THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE SCATTERED SITE PROJECT, THERE IS NO PRIVATE DEVELOPER. I MEAN, THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY IS THE DEVELOPER IN THIS PROJECT. THERE IS NO OTHER DEVELOPER. SO IT IS THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY. NOW, BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE, UH, LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL BE ACTING THROUGH, ITS SOME OTHER WHOLLY OWNED VEHICLES THAT IT OWNS. AND IT HAD TO CREATE TO, UH, DO THIS FINANCING. BUT IT IS THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY. NO, NO OTHER PRIVATE DE NO PRIVATE DEVELOPER IS INVOLVED. AND, AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONVICTIONS, YOU NEED TO RESOLVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONS AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S GONNA BE, UM, A COMPLETE GUTTING, YOU KNOW, SO COMPLETE GUTTING. CORRECT. SO BASICALLY IT'LL BE COMPLETE GUTTING WITH, WITH NEW AMENITIES, NEW APPLIANCES. UH, NONE OF THE UNITS AT THIS TIME HAVE CENTRAL AIR. IT WILL BE ALL 100% OF THE UNITS WILL HAVE CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING, [00:15:01] UH, AND HEATING CONDITIONING. AND, AND IT'LL, IT'LL JUST BE A TOP OF THE LINE, UM, UH, UH, UH, PLATE, UM, RESIDENTS FROM DONE. IT'LL, UM, THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD, WILL LOOK THE SAME, IT IS THE SHAPE OF THE ROOMS, THE EXTERIOR, THE INTERIOR WILL NOT LOOK LIKE WHAT IT'S NOW. SO BISHOP PRESTON, UH, JUST JUDITH, I'M JUST WONDERING, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CLEANING OUT MY SISTER'S APARTMENT WHO WE RECENTLY LOST IN OCTOBER. AND, UM, NOT, NOT BEING ABLE TO DO IT FULL TIME, IT TOOK ALMOST FOUR MONTHS. AND FORTUNATELY, THE FAMILY HAD, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH MONEY TO PUT ITEMS IN STORAGE. MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY RESOURCES FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO PUT ITEMS IN STORAGE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO MOVE EVERYTHING, THEY DON'T HAVE TO MOVE THEIR ENTIRE LIVES WITH THEM, AND THEN SEVERAL MONTHS DOWN THE MOVE BACK AGAIN INTO THE NEWLY RENOVATED HOMES, UM, IT, IT COULDA COULD MAYBE A PLAN BE WORKED OUT WITH ONE OF THE LOCAL, UM, STORAGE PLACES AND, AND THEN TO FIND A STORAGE PLACE, THEIR, THEIR RENTS, UM, VARY OUTRAGEOUSLY FROM VERY HIGH TO MODERATELY TO, TO REASONABLY LOW. YOU KNOW, IT, IT, I'M JUST ANTICIPATING WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FACE GIVEN ONLY 90 DAYS TO PACK UP AND MAKE THESE MOVES. IS THERE SOME WAY OF ACCOMMODATING THEM BY PROVIDING STORAGE OPPORTUNITIES? YES. WE, THAT'S ALL IN PART OF THE, UM, UH, RELOCATION BUDGET. UM, OH, EXCELLENT. WE, WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE, UH, READY TO ASSIST IN THEM THAT NEED ASSISTING PACKING AND UNPACKING, UH, THAT GO OUT, WE PACK AND, AND UNPACKING AT THEIR NEW RESIDENTS WHEN THEY COME BACK, WILL DO THE SAME THING. ALL THAT'S IN THE, IN THE RE RELOCATION BUDGET. THOSE THAT NEED THE, UH, UH, NEED TO, UH, STORE THEIR, UH, PERSONAL BELONGINGS OR THEIR FURNITURES, THOSE THAT ALL IN THE BUDGET. AND HAS, HAS ANY OF THE TENANTS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, MOVED, YOU KNOW, MOVED OUT OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW? E RX ACTUALLY, UH, REACHING OUT TO HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL, UH, REGARDING VARIOUS OPPORTUNITY HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, BUT NO TENANT T UP YET. RIGHT. IF, UH, WILL, WILL YOU KEEP, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN BOARD, UM, YOU KNOW, APPRISED OF, UM, YOU KNOW, OF ANY DIFFICULTIES, UM, OR, OR OBSTACLES, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF SOMEBODY'S IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEY WANNA STAY IN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO THE CONSTITUENT WHO CALLED ME THIS MORNING. I SAID I'D BE, UH, WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE CALLS TO REALTORS. UH, AND YOU KNOW, ALSO, YOU KNOW, ALSO LOOK AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, UM, HELPING REDUCE THE STRESS LEVELS OF, UM, OF SOME OF THE TENANTS WHO ARE BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, PLACE. WE'RE REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT THIS. ABSOLUTELY. THAT MAYBE, MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US LIKE UPDATES. AND IF THERE'S AN OBSTACLE, YOU KNOW, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO LIKE, HELP ANYONE. SO ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GIMME THEIR NAMES AND I'LL REACH OUT TO EVERYBODY I COULD THINK OF. AND THERE MAY BE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN USING SOCIAL MEDIA, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND, UH, LOCATIONS OTHER, THE OTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD IS, AND AGAIN, I JUST RECEIVED ONE CALL FROM SOMEBODY ON SEEKER ROAD. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY CALLS FROM PEOPLE. BUT THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S STRESSFUL IS THE LENGTH OF TIME, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO DO ALL THIS, UH, WORK. AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY THAT THE CONTRACTOR COULD DO IT, LIKE, IN PHASES. SO AS, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M THINKING, SAY THE SECRET ROAD, LET'S SAY THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO HAS CHILDREN, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEY DID THAT, THOSE UNITS SAY FROM JUNE UNTIL SAY, AND YOU SAY IT TAKES THREE MONTHS, AND THEY DID A SECTION, UM, AND THEY GOT IT IN AND THEY WORKED ON THAT. AND THAT PERSON CAN, DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE TIME. IT COULD BE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE TWO, THREE MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT TAKES TO, UH, GET IT DONE, THEN IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LONG-TERM RELOCATION. AND MAYBE COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME SOMEONE'S GONNA BE OUT? AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S A WAY OF PHASING IN YES, PAUL, GO AHEAD, BISHOP. I'M SORRY. YES, UH, PAUL, WELL, UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WHAT WE [00:20:01] ANTICIPATE DOING IS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SCATTERED SITES, BEING THAT THEY ARE, I THINK IT'S, UH, FIVE BUILDINGS. I, I, CORRECT MISTAKE FIVE BUILDINGS PER SITE. YES. AND, UM, AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND, AND THIS IS IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGES, IS TO, IS TO VACATE ONE SITE, TOTALLY REHAB THAT SITE, PUT THE PEOPLE BACK, MOVE OTHER PEOPLE OUT, VACATE ANOTHER SITE, AND TOTALLY REHAB THAT SITE. SO THERE WON'T BE OUT OF THAT, UH, UH, HOMES AT A LENGTH OF TIME. WE ANTICIPATE THIS, UM, UH, TAKING PLACE OVER APPROXIMATELY 18 MONTHS. UH, AND SO WE CAN, WE'LL TRY TO PUT IT ON A ROTATING SCALE SO THAT WE CAN, UH, SHORTEN THE TURN OF THEM BEING AWAY FROM THEIR HOME AS LITTLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO LET'S SAY, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST FOCUSING ON THE PERSON WHO CALLED ME. UM, SO IT MAY NOT BE 18 MONTHS FOR THAT PERSON, 18 MONTHS FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT, 18 MONTHS PER PROJECT. YES. SO HOW LONG WOULD YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE PER, PER COMPLEX? WELL, YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL THAT, BUT THE, THE GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE FAMILIES OUT OF THEIR HOMES ON AVERAGE, MORE THAN, UH, FOUR MONTHS OR SO. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THESE PROJECTS SOMETIMES YOU NEVER KNOW, BUT THAT'S THE GOAL. WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MUCH MORE REASSURING, UM, BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE TENANTS MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THAT THIS IS GONNA BE LIKE TWO YEARS AND BY, YOU KNOW, BY, IF IT'S A TWO, IF IT'S 18, IF IT'S FOUR MONTHS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S MUCH EASIER, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO BE A LITTLE INCONVENIENCE THAN IF IT'S 18 MONTHS. YES. A QUESTION, JUST LET ME ANSWER POLL PAUL ON THIS, AND THEN YOU CAN ASK, UM, I'LL HEAR TO YOU. UH, WE HAVE GOING OVER ALL THIS WITH ALL THE TENANTS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA DO PHASES. WE'RE GONNA DO THE TRANSPORTATION, WE'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE PACKING, WE'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE UNPACKING IF THEY NEED IT, UH, WE WE'RE GOING STORE IF THEY NEED IT, WE GOING OVER ALL THIS. AND, AND, UH, SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST FORGET, OR MAYBE THEY WASN'T AT THE MEETING OR THEY DIDN'T GET INFORMATION AS PREVALENTLY AS POSSIBLE. BUT, BUT ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN VERY HIGHLY, VERY STRONGLY CONSIDERED. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, UH, UH, UH, YEAH, UH, HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL, WHICH IS THE PREMIER, UH, UH, PEOPLE, UH, FINDING APARTMENTS AND HELPING PEOPLE MOVE AND MOVE BACK. SO WE HAVE THEM, UH, ON CONTRACT, AND THEY ARE WORKING ALREADY DOING THE ASSESSMENTS OF EACH PERSON INDIVIDUALLY, NOT, NOT GOING TO A GROUP, BUT INDIVIDUALLY DOOR TO DOOR, SO TO SPEAK. AND WITH THE PANDEMIC, SOMETIME THEY HAVE TO DO IT VIRTUALLY, BUT THEY'LL DO IT INDIVIDUALLY. LOOKING AT WHAT THEY NEED, HOW, HOW FAR THEY CAN MOVE AWAY, WHAT'S, WHERE THE PHYSICIANS ARE, WHERE THEIR CHURCHES ARE, WHERE THE DOCTORS ARE, WHERE THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY, CLOSE FAMILY, ALL THIS IS IN CONSIDERATION OF THEM DOING TEMPORARILY DISPLACED TEMPORARILY. AND, AND I'LL JUST ADD THAT AS WE MOVE CLOSER TO THE CLOSING DATE, UM, AND PLANS ARE MORE SOLIDIFIED, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE ENTIRE REDEVELOPMENT TEAM COME BACK BEFORE YOU AND MAKE THE PRESENTATION WHEN WE HAVE PLANS MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE SOLID PLANS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS IF WE, I'M SORRY, GO. THAT'S INTERRUPTED YOU. NO, THAT'S FINE. WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS THAT WHATEVER NOTICES YOU GAVE TO THE TENANTS, THAT YOU SHARE THEM WITH US BECAUSE WE GET CALLS AND THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY OTHER THAN WE DON'T KNOW. AND SO THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GUT THE APARTMENT, SO YOU ARE GETTING DOWN TO THE STUD, SO YOU'RE TAKING OUT THE SHEET BOX SO THAT YOU CAN PUT IN THE WIRING PIPES, INSULATION, MOST, MOST REALLY IMPORTANT INSULATION, BECAUSE MANY OF THESE 50 YEARS OLD, UH, BUILDINGS, THEY, THEY HAD THREE AND A HALF INCH INSULATION IN THE WALLS, WHICH IS BASICALLY USELESS. UH, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING? YOU'RE TAKING OUT THE CEILINGS AND THE WALLS AND GETTING RIGHT DOWN TO THE STUDS SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE FREE ACCESS TO RUNNING ALL THESE NEW, UM, WIRES AND PIPES FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. THERE WILL BE A TOTAL GUT, EVERYTHING OUT, NOTHING BUT THE STUDS THERE. WE'LL PUT NEW. YOU WERE DOING SO GOOD. UH, FRANCIS INS, INSTALLATION, APPLIANCES, F FLOORING, UM, NEW SHEET ROCK, UH, EVERYTHING. IT'S GONNA BE TOTALLY NEW. WHAT ABOUT, UM, YOU, I ASKED A QUESTION EARLIER, I WAS AWAITING MY TURN. YEAH, I JUST WANTED RE-ASK ONE QUESTION ABOUT BROADBAND. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ISSUE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, LOWER INCOME, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS NOT HAVING ACCESS TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, BROADBAND. AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY THAT SINCE WE'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, MODERNIZING THESE BUILDINGS, IF WE COULD, UM, ALSO, UM, PROVIDE, UM, HIGH SPEED, UH, INTERNET AND I'M SORRY, THAT'D BE A GREAT PROJECT FOR THE TOWN TO BUILD ME TO US. WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT THE COST WOULD BE ON THAT? OR, [00:25:01] I DON'T KNOW, . 'CAUSE MAYBE WE COULD ALSO BE LOOKING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR GRANTS, BECAUSE IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GIVE YOUNG PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, UH, EXCEL AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT THIS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CAN MAKE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY REALLY, YOU KNOW, A MODEL FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR OTHER, UH, AFFORDABLE, UM, HOUSING COMPLEXES. I'M ALSO WONDERING IN TERMS OF SUSTAINABILITY, BECAUSE, UM, I SPOKE TO NINA VO, UM, UM, FROM SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, AND I THINK SHE SAID THE HOUSING AUTHORITY MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME GRANTS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, SOLARIZING AND INITIATIVES LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME SUSTAINABILITY. AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY THAT, WELL, ALL, ALL THAT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED, NOT ONLY SUSTAINABILITY, BUT BRING EVERYTHING WE WE'RE DOING IS AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, MAKING THIS AS, UH, UP TO DATE AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S GREAT. TERRIFIC. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CLIFF, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, I GOT ON A LITTLE LATE. I CAUGHT THE TAIL IN. SO ALL THE, ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE LEAVING, ARE THEY ALL GUARANTEED TO COME BACK? YES. THEY'RE ALL GUARANTEED TO GET THEIR PLACE BACK. YES. I THOUGHT I HEARD YESTERDAY THEY HAD TO RE, UM, APPLY. I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT. NO, YOU DIDN'T HEAR THAT. YOU HEARD THAT THEY HAD AN ANNUAL RECERTIFICATION. OKAY. SECOND IS, UH, I WONDER BECAUSE LIKE THE SHORTS, I FEEL LIKE JU BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS AND PEOPLE FEEL THEY'VE BEEN PRESSURE TO MOVE OUT WITH THE SHORT TIMING. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE HOW TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. WELL, NO ONE IS BEING PRESSURED TO MOVE OUT. WE'RE NOT EVEN AT THE POINT YET WHERE WE HAVE A FIRM CLOSING DATE WITH RESPECT TO OUR FINANCING. SO FORMAL NOTICES HAVE NOT YET GONE OUT WITH RESPECT TO ANTICIPATED THE VACATE DATES. UM, BUT WE, WE HAVE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS PROJECT IS, UH, GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, IF ANYONE WANTS TO VOLUNTARILY RELOCATE IN ADVANCE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ABLE TO DO SO WITH THE HELP OF OUR, THE HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. BUT IN TERMS OF GIVING ANYONE A FIRM DATE TO VACATE, THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE AS YET. SO THE 90 DAYS HAS NOT TOTALED ON ANYONE YET? NO, THE NOTICES HAVE NOT GONE OUT. MR. SHE THAT'S YET. OKAY. WE HAVE, YOU HAVE IN 90 DAYS, I THINK THEY GAVE THAT NOTICE OUT. NO, SIR. WE ONLY INFORMED THEM THAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE A 90 DAY NOTICE, BUT WE HAVE NOT EXPEDITED THE MANY DAY NOTICE AS OF YET. RIGHT. WE DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO BE SURPRISED. ONCE THEIR NOTICES ARE ISSUED, AS, AS I SAID, IT'S A MATTER OF FEDERAL LAW, THE UNIFORM RELOCATION ACT REQUIRES THOSE NOTICES TO GO OUT AT SOME JUNCTURE. SO WE JUST DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO BE SURPRISED WHEN THEY DO RECEIVE THEM, UH, DOWN THE ROAD. WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE ORDER OF THE BUILDINGS? IS SEQUEL ROAD THE FIRST ONE AND THEN THERE ANOTHER ONE AFTER THAT, OR HAS THAT WE HAVEN'T DETERMINED THAT AS YET, MR. SHEEN, WHICH CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, UH, THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AS TO WHAT, UH, THE ORDER OF, UH, REHABILITATION WILL BE AND HAVE NOT YET DECIDED WHAT THAT WILL BE AS YET. SO THE REASON I'M ASKING, THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT IS THAT WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST ONE, THEY, THEY GET 90 DAYS, BUT THE OTHER ONES, THE SUBSEQUENT ONES WOULD'VE EVEN MORE HEADS UP THAT SOMETHING'S GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE, UH, YOU ARE GOING TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN, IN 180 DAYS, YOU'RE GONNA BE GOING TO THE NEXT HOUSE AND THE, THE NEXT, UH, UNIT SO THAT THERE, THERE WOULD BE NO SURPRISE THAT THIS IS COMING. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN. CORRECT. RIGHT. AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ANTICIPATE DOING. WE, WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY FAIR NOTICE, BUT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CONTRACTOR WOULD LIKE TO START. A LOT OF THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CONTRACTOR FOUND IN EACH BUILDING THAT HAS TO BE DONE. AND WITH PIPING WITH, UH, WHETHER THEY HAVE TO DIG, DIG LINES ON THE GROUND, ALL THOSE THINGS HAS TO BE CONSIDERED. AND EACH SITE WILL, UH, WE DID AN ASSESSMENT ON EACH SITE INDIVIDUALLY. SO THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT DATA AND FIND OUT WHERE, WHERE IS BEST TO START FOR ANY OF THE MULTI-FLOOR SITES. I THINK ACTUALLY THE OIL ARE, IS THERE THOUGHT OF AN ELEVATOR OR SOME KIND OF A LIFT? NO, NO. ELEVATORS ARE ANTICIPATED, BUT WHAT WE DO DO IT, UH, UM, ANTICIPATE IS MAKING AT LEAST ONE UNIT ON EACH SITE A D A COMPLIANT, UM, BISHOP. UM, AND WE GOING ALLOW ANY OF THE RESIDENTS WITH FAIRVIEW TO BE ABLE [00:30:01] TO BE, UM, GOOD JOBS AS FAR AS, UM, LABORERS OR APPRENTICESHIPS. WELL, THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE, UH, WE'VE HAD WITH THE CONTRACTOR, AND WE'RE PUSHING THAT, UH, AS MUCH AS WE CAN CONTROL THAT WE WILL. UM, BUT WE'RE NOT TOTALLY IN CONTROL OF THAT. UH, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE TO WORK WITH WHAT THE LIMITATIONS OF WHAT WE HAVE. SO WHO HIRED, WHO HIRED A CONTRACTOR? GLEN HOUSING AUTHORITY. SO Y'ALL ARE GREEN HOUSES RIGHT THERE IN FAIRVIEW. AND, UM, NOBODY THOUGHT ABOUT GETTING, BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DEVELOPING, UM, HOUSING AND BUILDERS IN GREENBURG AND NONE OF THE RESIDENTS GET ANY WORK OR JOBS OR APPRENTICESHIP. AND I THINK IT'S SOMEBODY WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW OTHER COMPANY AND DEVELOPERS WE FINISH, OTHER COMPANY DEVELOPERS ARE WILLING TO BE OPEN TO LEAST HEAR IT. WELL, UM, MR. MENT, I I JUST INFORMED YOU THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED THAT WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND WE DON'T HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OF THAT, BUT TO THE LIMIT THAT WE DO, WE'LL BE PUSHING THAT, BUT WE CANNOT SIT HERE AND MAKE GUARANTEES THAT WE, THAT WE POSSIBLY CANNOT KEEP. SO I WANNA ADD ALSO THAT WE ENCOURAGE MINORITY AND WOMEN ENTERPRISES FOR THESE PROJECTS. AND WE HAVE, LIKE AFFIRMATIVELY REACHED OUT TO MINORITY COMPANIES AND CONTRACTORS TO, YOU KNOW, BID FOR THE JOBS. SO WHEN THE, WHEN THE BIDS COME IN, DEFINITELY WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN OUTREACH PROGRAM, WE'LL PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE TO SHOW THAT WHAT IS COMING UP SO THAT EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY, GREENBERG COMMUNITY CAN APPLY FOR JOBS. THE CONTRACTOR SCORE APPLY, I CAN APPLY FOR WORKS WORK THERE. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S CLOSE TO US AND WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR COMMUNITY IN FAIRVIEW AND GREENBERG GET THE FIRST SHOT AT THAT. SO YOU HAVEN'T BUSINESS OUT YET? I JUST, I JUST HOPE SO THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE SAY MINORITY, I, THE FAIRVIEW IS 70, 76% AFRICAN AMERICANS, AND I'M LOOKING BECAUSE WE MINORITY, THAT COULD BE ANYBODY. I WANNA MAKE SURE AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE SHOT AT IT TOO. RAJE. DID YOU SAY YOU HAVEN'T BID THIS OUT YET? THE THE INDIVIDUAL WORK HAS NOT BEEN BIDED OUT, MEANING THE SUBS HAVE NOT BEEN YEAH. PUT OUT AS WELL. OH, BUT THE CONTRACTOR, THE CONTRACTOR HAS YES. CONTRACTOR. YES. UH, ONE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD IS, UM, UM, I KNOW THAT WEST HELP, YOU KNOW, THE MARK IS, UM, NEARING COMPLETION OF THE GREENBERG, UM, YOU KNOW, SENIOR HOUSING. AND I'M WONDERING, SINCE SO MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN YOUR COMPLEX ARE SENIORS, IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT, UM, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UH, WORK AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THE HOU WITH, UH, WITH MR. SOJA AND TEMPORARILY, UM, MOVE PEOPLE, MOVE PEOPLE INTO THE SENIOR HOUSING AT SAY THE, THE WEST HELP, UH, SENIOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO SOME OF THE SITES, IT'S, YOU KNOW, BRAND NEW. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT PROBABLY WOULD LEAD VERY EASY, UM, YOU KNOW, TRANSITION FOR, FOR SOME, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A TRACK RECORD, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE TENANTS. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD MOVE TO HIS COMPLEX ARE, YOU KNOW, REALLY DECENT, GOOD, YOU KNOW, GOOD TENANTS. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD JUST BE LESS STRESSFUL. MAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HE WOULD JUST HOLD UP DOING THE PERMANENT, UH, RENTALS, UM, DURING THIS TRANSITION PERIOD, MR. SUPERVISOR THAT'S IN THE HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL'S WHEELHOUSE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THE, UH, OFFERINGS AND ALL OF THE AVAILABLE APARTMENTS, UH, IN THE, IN WESTCHESTER. AND I BELIEVE I'VE HEARD CONVERSATION THAT, UM, THEY CERTAINLY HAVE MADE, UH, MADE CONTACT WITH MR. SOLDIER IN THAT REGARD. THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I MEAN, I, I FEEL MUCH BETTER TODAY. I ALSO WANT TO THANK KEN JONES. UM, YOU, I SPOKE TO KEN YESTERDAY AND, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, KEN, UM, UH, ARRANGED, YOU KNOW, THIS MEETING, SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN JONES FOR, UH, UM, ARRANGING FOR THE MEETING WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND PROVIDING THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC WITH THIS REALLY IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION. OKAY. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS AN OPEN BOOK. THEY'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO COME FORWARD AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THEY OPERATE IN A PURELY TRANSPARENT MANNER. I'VE FOUND. I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD. [00:35:01] AND LEMME TAKE A MOMENT AS THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO THANK KIM, ALSO, BECAUSE KIM WORKS VERY CLOSE WITH US, AND HE HAS, HE HAS BEEN A, UH, INVALUABLE, UM, UH, A CONDUIT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND, UH, AND HOUSING. AND, UH, WE WILL TAKE THE CONSIDERATION, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, THE SUGGESTION THAT MR. SHEEN, UM, UH, SUGGEST THAT WHEN WE GET, WHEN WE SEND NOTICES TO THE RESIDENTS, WE CAN CC UH, THE, UH, THE, UH, TOWN BOARD AND THAT WAY WE, UH, IT'D BE A, A EASIER AND A MUCH MORE FLUENT WAY OF KEEPING EVERYONE INFORMED. I I JUST RECEIVED AN EMAIL, UH, STATING WHY DOES THIS NEED TO BE DONE DURING A PANDEMIC? BECAUSE SOME OF THE, THE, UH, RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT MOVING, RELOCATING SOMEPLACE ELSE AND DOING AND DOING THIS DISRUPTION IN THE MIDDLE OF, UH, OF THE CORONAVIRUS. MR. SHIN, WE, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE FINANCING SOURCES AND, AND WHEN, UH, THEY CLOSE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $34 MILLION IN FINANCING COMING FROM PRIMARILY THE STATE AND EQUITY INVESTORS. AND QUITE FRANKLY, UH, GIVEN THE, UH, BUDGETARY CONCERNS IN NEW YORK STATE, UH, IF WE MISS OUT ON AROUND OF FUNDING, THERE'S NO TELLING WHETHER IN FACT WE'LL GET BACK INTO THE PIPELINE. AND SO THIS, QUITE FRANKLY, THE STATE DICTATES WHEN, UH, WE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO FUNDS AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DRIVEN BY. I CAN'T HEAR, MICHELLE, YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH YOUR AUDIO. MICHELLE, YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE. YOUR AUDIO SHUT OFF YOUR VIDEO. MY MUTE IS NOT OFF. HEAR ME? YES OR NO? NOW, ALL, UH, IF YOU ACTUALLY DISABLE YOUR VIDEO, IT MAY GIVE YOU MORE BANDWIDTH FOR YOUR AUDIO TO COME THROUGH. SOMETIMES THAT WORKS. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT NOW? THAT IS GOOD. NOW. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY, PERFECT. SO I HEAR WHAT HAPPENS ON THE BACK END, AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ON THE FRONT END, WE BEGINNING TO HAVE THESE, UM, STRUCTURES BUILT. AND I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE HAVING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ASSIST IN BUILDING THESE STRUCTURES? I GET WHAT HAPPENS ON THE BACK END, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE GO IN, THAT THEY WERE THERE AND THAT THE FUNDING IS WHAT THE FUNDING IS. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHOLE PROCESS, SOMEONE TO BUILD IN THE COMMUNITY. ARE WE ALLOTTING SPACES FOR APPRENTICES, CERTAIN JOBS? IS THAT IN CONTRACT WITH THE BUILDER? I'M NOT SURE. I, I, I PROBABLY CAME IN TOO LATE AND MISSED THAT. SO SOMEBODY CAN TELL ME THAT. WELL, NOT APPRENTICESHIPS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE, THERE ARE CERTAIN, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR HAS TO MEET. UM, THERE'S CERTAIN M W B E REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO MEET, UH, FROM THE REQUIRED BY OUR STATE FUNDING SOURCES. AND GREENBURG HOUSING AUTHORITY ITSELF, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ANY APPRENTICES, APPRENTICESHIPS AS PART OF THAT, PART OF THAT, BUT CERTAINLY THE EXPECTATION THAT MINORITY AND WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES BE PART OF THE TRAYS AND BE PART OF THE PROCESS. IS THAT A CONTRACT TO THEM WHEN THEY SIGN A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OR THE TOWN? IS THAT, IS THAT JUST AN ASSUMPTION OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE HAPPENS? NO, I SAID IT'S A REQUIREMENT. I GET THE WHOLE, IT'S A REQUIREMENT. SO THE REQUIREMENT, IT'S NOT AN ASSUMPTION, IT'S A REQUIREMENT. MM-HMM. IT'S A REQUIREMENT BY OUR FUNDING SOURCES. OKAY. SO, UM, THE ACTUAL VERBIAGE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, I GET THE WHOLE WOMEN MINORITY, THE WHOLE THING, BUT IS IT GUARANTEED JOBS OR WHAT DOES IT DO? WHAT DOES THAT SAY? NOTHING IS GUARANTEED. YOU HAVE CERTAIN, UH, GOALS THAT HAVE TO BE SET THAT ARE ADHERED TO, AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE, UH, GOOD FAITH EFFORTS, CERTAINLY TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT, UH, YOUR CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE WORK IS GIVEN TO, UH, WOMEN AND MINORITY, WOMEN OWNED AND MINORITY BUSINESSES. IS THAT TO THEY'RE DOING THAT? I'M SORRY. I CAN'T, I DON'T, I'M SORRY. I'M SURE SURE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING. YEAH. WHO MAKES SURE THAT THAT HAPPENED? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING? [00:40:02] WELL, THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT THAT BECAUSE WE HAD THE CONTRACT IN PLACE, IS, UH, WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO INFORM MINORITY BUSINESSES, UH, THAT THE PROCESS IS GOING TO START AND TO GET THAT BIDS IN. UH, NOW WE CANNOT FORCE THEM TO, UH, GET BIDS IN THAT I STOOD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND TALKED TO A MINORITY CONTRACTOR AND, AND GAVE THEM THE INFORMATION. AND WHEN I CHECKED WITH, UH, CHECKED WITH THE SOURCES, HE HAD NOT TURNED THAT INFORMATION IN. BUT WE ARE PERSONALLY DOING IT, AND WE TALKED TO THE CONTRACTOR. THE CONTRACTOR IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE, UH, MAKE THOSE EFFORTS. AND SO WE, WE ARE OVERSEEING THAT BECAUSE WE ARE THE, WE, WE ARE THE DEVELOPER. SO WE TAKE PROACTIVE, UH, MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE FROM THE DEVELOPER STANDPOINT. UH, BUT, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO TURN IN OR MAKE THE GO THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS AFTER THEY GO THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS. THEN THAT QUALIFICATIONS, YOU HAVE TO BE, HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN LEVELS OF BONDING AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE, AND IT'S TOO MUCH TO GET INTO HERE, BUT, BUT THERE IS A PROCESS YOU JUST CAN'T POP IN BECAUSE IT'S STATE OWNED. I'M A MINORITY, I'M MINORITY BUSINESS, AN OUTREACH COMPANY, LICENSE BOND, AND INSURED, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN WHERE I CAN GO AND FIND OUT WHERE I CAN APPLY. IS THERE A WEBSITE? IS THERE, WHERE DOES THAT HAPPEN AT? HOW DO I KNOW ABOUT THIS? UM, UH, UH, MS. ABRAHAM WOULD BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE SOURCES THAT WE USE TO ADVERTISE. OKAY. YES. UH, WHEN, WHENEVER THE JOBS ARE READY AND WE ARE READY TO, UM, UH, PROCURE BITS FOR THE TASK, WE'LL BE PUTTING THEM OUT ON OUR WEBSITE. WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO ALL THE MINORITY VENDORS. AND IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR SUCH JOBS OR FOR WORKS, YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEND ME AN EMAIL. UH, MY EMAIL IS ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE'LL PUT YOU ON THE FAVORITE, I WON'T, I DON'T WANNA USE A WORD FAVOR, BUT WE WILL PUT YOU ON THE VENDOR LIST. SO I GUESS IN A CONTRACT TO THE ACTUAL BUILDER, THERE IS NO SPECIFIC ENTITY THAT WE ARE SAYING HAS PRIMARY, UM, PURPOSE, MEANING JUST HYPOTHETICALLY THE CENTER IN GREENBURG, RIGHT? ARE THEY SOMEONE THAT'S IN A CONTRACT THAT MIGHT BE USED TO AUTOMATICALLY BE ABLE TO PUT A BID IN AND, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMEONE, IS IT A FAIR PROCESS? MEANING THE BLANK LINE IS YOU HAVE HOW MANY PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE I DON'T EVEN KNOW, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PERMITTED, AND THERE'S NO NAME THERE. YOU'RE JUST GONNA PUT OUT A REGULAR, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ON YOUR WEBSITE OPPORTUNITY TO OTHER PEOPLE. AND THERE'S NOBODY COMMITTED RIGHT NOW IN A CONTRACT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. THERE'S NOBODY, YOU ARE GONNA TAKE THE, THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO CAN I, CAN I JUST INTER INTERJECT HERE FOR A SECOND? I THINK WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT INTO THE WEEDS HERE, AND I'M WONDERING MS. BROWN, IF YOU MIGHT BE WILLING TO TALK TO MR. ABRAHAM OFFLINE ABOUT THIS, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE GONE OVER A BIT OF IT BEFORE AND, UM, WE'VE NOW BEEN ON THIS TOPIC FOR ABOUT AN HOUR. DO I, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO GET SOME GOOD, GOOD INFORMATION FROM HIM, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU NEED. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? UM, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. IF HE'S THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT TECH DIRECTLY WITH HIM AND NOT, YOU KNOW, UM, MONOPOLIZE ANYBODY ELSE'S TIME. SO I'M OPEN FOR THAT, OF COURSE. AWESOME. THAT'S OKAY. IF HE'S THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN ANSWER FINE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS ONLY HAPPENED TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, I'M SURE. BUT ROGER ABRAHAM, MR. ABRAHAM IS THE, THE PRINCIPAL POINT OF CONTACT, AND I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU EMAIL THE STATE HIM THAT, THAT INITIATE, UH, THE COMMUNICATION AND HE WOULD DIRECT YOU IN ANY, ANY WAY THAT YOU NEED TO GO TO, UH, BE SURE THAT YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS. AH, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AWESOME. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE, GUYS? NO. GREAT. THIS, I THINK THIS WAS REALLY VERY VALUABLE. I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR, UH, TAKING THE TIME TO, UM, UH, TO BRIEF US AND ANSWER, UH, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS. AND I FEEL MUCH BETTER ABOUT THIS NOW. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. THANK, I'M GOING TO MY WIFE BE [00:45:15] ARE THEY PAY FOR TAXES? OKAY. I SPOKE TO, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE, UM, PEOPLE AREN'T ABLE TO, UH, I I'VE GETTING PE STIFF PENALTIES FOR PAYING THEIR, UH, TAXES LATE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT, UH, WOULD MAKE SENSE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER A NORMAL PAY SYSTEM. UM, Y P FEELS THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME NEGATIVES. SO A LOT OF, UM, ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, IT HAS TO BE DONE. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO SPEAK TO, UH, DEEPAK AND, UM, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT RUNNING FOR REELECTION NEW, I RECEIVE THEIR TAXES BECAUSE I, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I, IT REALLY KILLS ME WHEN PEOPLE PAY THEIR TAXES LIKE A DAY AND THEY'RE CHARGED, UM, SIGNIFICANT PENALTIES. AND I JUST THINK THAT IF THERE WAS A ROUTE OF THE SYSTEM, UM, IT WOULD ENABLE PEOPLE TO, UH, UH, SIGN UP, UM, AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FORGETTING ABOUT THEIR TAX BILLS. YOU, MAY YOU SAY THERE WERE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS OR ARE DOING THIS. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE IS DOING IT. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO IT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, IAN WAS MENTIONING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, UH, ACTUALLY SHE SENT ME SOMETHING, HOLD ON FOR A SECOND. UM, LET ME SEE IF I COULD GET IT. I HAVE IT. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? YEAH. WOULD YOU READ IT? IT SAYS, THIS IS FROM ELLA, OUR, OUR RECEIVER OF TAXES. SHE SAYS AUTO PAY WOULD NEVER WORK WITH THE COLLECTION OF TAXES. WE CANNOT KEEP TRACK OF THE BANK ACCOUNTS THAT WOULD BE CHARGED, AND THE AMOUNTS WOULD CHANGE EACH YEAR. CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPARED EACH BILLING PERIOD. WE HAVE THE PAYMENT ABILITY THROUGH OUR WEBSITE. THAT IS A GREAT CONVENIENCE TO THE TAXPAYER TAX ACCOUNT. NUMBERS GO WITH THE PARCEL ID NOT THE HOMEOWNERS, THE ACCOUNTS DO NOT CHANGE WHEN THERE IS A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THIS WOULD CAUSE A GREATER PROBLEM TO MANY TAXPAYERS, NOT JUST THE TAXPAYERS WHO FORGET TO PAY AS IT IS NOW. WE HAVE MANY DUPLICATE, UH, PAYMENTS EACH COLLECTION PERIOD WITH PEOPLE PAYING TWICE. WE COLLECT, SEND OUT REMINDERS IN THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY. MANY TAXPAYERS PAY THE ENTIRE BILL IN SEPTEMBER. I AM NOT SURE IF IT IS EVEN LEGAL WITHOUT THE TAXPAYER APPROVING EACH PAYMENT AS IT IS DONE ON THE WEBSITE. PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS. I DON'T THINK SHE'S A FAN, SHE'S NOT A FAN OF, UH, YOU KNOW, OF SIDE HERE. BUT LETTING, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THERE'S LIKE A WAY WHERE LIKE EVERY COUPLE MONTHS, UH, THERE, YOU KNOW, UP TO, WE SET UP A SYSTEM, IF THERE'S A WAY WHERE EVERY FEW MONTHS, UH, THERE'D BE NOTICE, UM, TO THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ADVISING THEM WHETHER THEY COULD, UM, GET OUT OF THE, THE AUTO PAY OR REMIND THAT THEY'RE IN IT. BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'VE, EVERY, A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T FANS OF, YOU KNOW, THIS, BUT AT, IF YOU GET A $1,500 BILL, UM, YOU ARE GONNA BE UPSET IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU MISSED YOUR TAX PAYMENT BY TWO DAYS OR THREE DAYS. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN WE DO, UH, TO AVOID ALL THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, LATE, LATE PAYMENTS. AND A LOT OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE, ARE STRESSED. THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT FOCUSING, UM, AND THEY GET LARGE PENALTIES. OKAY. YEAH. I, I THINK FROM WHAT I AM ROOTING FROM WHAT SHE WROTE, IT MAY ACTUALLY MAKE MORE PEOPLE LIKELY TO PAY LATE BECAUSE IT'S GOING, IT'S TIED TO THE PARCEL ID NOT TO THE PERSON. IF SOMEBODY BUYS A HOUSE AND IT'S NOT TIED, THEY THINK THAT IT'S TIED TO THE, TO THEM AS OPPOSED TO THE PARCEL, BUT THERE'S STILL, OR RENT MAYBE, UH, THE PLACE, IT MAY ACTUALLY MAKE IT MORE CONVOLUTED AS TO WHO'S PAYING FOR WHAT. AND UNLESS THE PAYMENT MAKES IT TO HER OFFICE BY THE DEADLINE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S A PAYMENT SYSTEM OR NOT. IF IT GOES TO THE WRONG PLACE, IT DOESN'T GET FILED IN HER OFFICE, THERE'S A PENALTY. SO IF IT, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, WE HAVE TO REALLY WORK OUT WHATEVER THE CONCERNS ARE THAT SHE HAS AND [00:50:01] THAT NO, I AGREE. UH, YOU KNOW, I AGREE. I FEEL THAT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PROBLEM AND IN MY OPINION, THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WE NEED DEEP BACK, WE NEED, UH, THE RECEIVER OF TAXES. WE SHOULD BE REACHING OUT TO THE STATE. WE SHOULD SEE WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING. BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH TECHNOLOGY, I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MODERN TECHNOLOGY, UH, TO HELP PEOPLE AVOID, UM, THESE LARGE, YOU KNOW, THESE LARGE PENALTIES THAT DOESN'T NEED, BY AND LARGE, BY AND LARGE, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THE TOWN ARE PAYING IN WAYS IN WHICH THEY'RE NOT INCURRING PENALTIES. IN OTHER WORDS, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE INCURRING PENALTIES FOR PAYING LATE, IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM ANN. NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. MM-HMM. , I JUST WANT, FOR THE PEOPLE LISTENING, IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S AN, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING LATE AND GETTING THESE HUGE FINES, THERE ARE NOT. RIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, IT'S WORTH TAKING A LOOK AT. OH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. AND THERE MAY BE A WAY THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY TEXT, UH, MANY PEOPLE DON'T CHECK EMAILS, UH, PARTICULARLY YOUNGER PEOPLE. MANY PEOPLE DON'T, YOU KNOW, PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT GETS SENT IN THE POSTAL MAIL, BUT PEOPLE TEND TO PAY ATTENTION IF THEY GET A TEXT. SO MAYBE WE COULD SET UP SOMETHING THAT AUTOMATICALLY WOULD SEND OUT A TEXT, UH, TO THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF JANUARY. IF THEY DON'T PAY IT IN SEPTEMBER, THE WHOLE THING IN SEPTEMBER, LOOK AT IT. YEAH. WHATEVER WE COULD DO THAT WOULD MAKE IT BETTER WOULD BE REALLY, UH, WOULD BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, FANTASTIC. UM, AND I'M SURE ANNA'S LISTENING AND SHE'S PROBABLY HAS A, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR, UH, IDEAS AS TO WHY THAT WOULD WORK AND WHY IT WOULDN'T WORK. BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE'LL HAVE TO WORK OUT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT THING IS AGENDA REVIEW. YEAH. BEFORE WE GET TO THAT THOUGH, CAN WE FINALIZE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL BE A WAIVER OF LATE PENALTIES IF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY? AND I'M TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY REALLY BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, UH, BEFORE OUR PARENT HAS INCREASED. I MEAN, I STILL AM SUPPORTIVE. I, I FEEL THAT, UH, THIS IS A PANDEMIC. YOU, I FEEL THAT, UM, IF THERE'S A, IF WE COULD HAVE HAD A REDUCED PENALTY, UM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT DURING THIS TIME WE SHOULD BE GOING A LITTLE OVERBOARD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO BE HELPFUL. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT, IT REALLY, THESE PENALTIES ARE REALLY, UH, VERY DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT OF WORK AND WERE SUFFERING THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC. WELL, SOMEBODY JUST SENT US, UH, AN EMAIL REGARD WITHOUT, WITH VERY LITTLE INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW. THE PERSON COMMUNICATED WITH YOU AND ACTUALLY GAVE YOU DETAILS, BUT THERE WAS ALMOST NO INFORMATION STATING THAT, UH, THEY DIDN'T PAY ON TIME. THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THE PAYMENT WITHOUT THE PENALTY. AND, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE RECEIVER OF TAXES, UH, WON AND CAN'T TAKE A PAYMENT WITHOUT THE FULL AMOUNT. SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE OPENING UP HERE WITH THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT, UH, PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY CAN PAY LATE AND NOT PAY THE PENALTY AND IT'LL BE ACCEPTED. I THINK THE WRONG MESSAGE IS BEING SENT HERE. AND MY, MY CONCERNS FOR ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLED SO HARD TO MAKE THE PAYMENT AND MADE IT, YOU KNOW, UM, OR, OR, OR WHO, OR WHO, I'M SORRY. MY CONCERNS FOR PEOPLE WHO ALREADY PAID THE PENALTY, WHO, WHO WERE LATE PAID THE PENALTY. I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE 200 PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY WHO, WHO HAD TO PAY. UM, ARE WE OFFERING TO GIVE THEM BACK THEIR MONEY? WELL, I THINK WE WOULD TREAT EVERYBODY THE SAME WAY. IF THEY PAID IT, WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK THAT WHY WE COULD DO IS, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE, FOR PEOPLE WHO PAID, PAID IT LATE FOR THAT MONTH, YOU COULD HAVE A REDUCED PENALTY BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC INSTEAD OF IT, RIGHT? IS IT IT'S 12% RIGHT NOW IT GOES UP, IT WAS 10, 10%. UM, IT'S 10%. NEXT MONTH IS GONNA BE 12%. SO MAYBE SAY, UM, FOR THE MONTH OF, UH, FEBRUARY THE ONE SHOT THING, WE WILL MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, 2% OR, OR 4%. AND WE COULD GIVE PEOPLE, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA LOSE SOME MONEY OUT OF IT. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I FEEL, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THAT [00:55:01] THE TOWN IS AT LEAST BEING CONSIDERATE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY WOULD JUST BE BECAUSE OF, JUST FOR THE, FOR THE PANDEMIC. THEN, YOU KNOW, DURING THE COMING YEAR, WE COULD WORK OUT A SYSTEM TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT EASIER, UM, MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO FORGET ABOUT PAYING THE TAXES LIKE ION THAT FRANCIS YOU MADE A COUPLE MINUTES AGO IN TERMS OF, UH, WE DID THAT IN THE PAST BY SENDING OUT A POSTCARD IN JANUARY, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO, WE DID THAT TO REMIND PEOPLE SO THAT THEY DON'T PAY LATE, UH, OR TO HELP THE, THE, THE, UH, PAY LATE. UH, THE CONCERN IS, AND WE HAVE A LEGAL OPINION, IS THAT FOR US TO WAIVE THE PENALTY, WE HAVE TO FIND THAT WAIVING THE PENALTY FOR THE, FOR THE RELATIVELY FEW PEOPLE WHO PAID LATE IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN. I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU REACHED THAT STANDARD. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DID THE AMNESTY, IT WAS THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN BECAUSE IT WAS BROAD BASED. IT WAS DONE IN ADVANCE, AND EVERYBODY KNEW IT WAS COMING HERE AFTER THE FACT. UH, WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, IF YOU PAID LATE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO WAIVE THAT PENALTY. AND, AND THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN IN GENERAL. I, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ACHIEVED THAT STANDARD. WELL, THE STANDARD IS THAT PEOPLE ARE LESS STRESSED OUT, AND THAT'S THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN. IT'S, IT'S A, MY STANDARD IS, IS REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, FEELING GOOD ABOUT THE TOWN. UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FEELING THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERATE, CONSIDERATE OF THEIR, THEIR HARDSHIPS AND, AND STRESSES. AND THIS IS A PANDEMIC AND IT'S JUST A LITTLE DUTCH. IT'S A POSITIVE GESTURE THAT I THINK GOES A LONG WAY. I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT THESE LITTLE POSITIVE GESTURES THAT WE DO, UM, MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE TOWN. AND, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE MISTAKES. UM, THERE PEOPLE ARE MORE WILLING TO WORK WITH US OR UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE THEY REALLY FEEL THAT YOU WERE TRYING. THAT'S MY FEELING. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S JUST FOLLOW THIS THROUGH BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA FEEL STRESSED WHEN THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR APRIL BILL. UH, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH OF A GRACE PERIOD ARE WE GOING TO GIVE TO THE APRIL BILL SO THAT IF THEY, IF THEY DON'T MAKE IT IN APRIL AND THEY PAY IT IN MAY, HOW MANY WEEKS ARE WE GONNA GIVE THEM? BECAUSE THAT WILL BE THEN THE DUE DUE DATE AND DATE. I'M JUST ASKING FOR, I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE, UH, JUST THE SCHOOL TAX OVER HERE. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING BECAUSE THE, THE APRIL TAX IS NOT A AS BIG A PENALTY. THE ONLY BIG PENALTY IS REALLY THE, THE JANUARY TAX ISN'T, UH, IS AN APRIL TAX. I THINK IT'S LIKE 2% IF YOU ARE MONTHLY, RIGHT. BUT THAT AS, AS THE RECEIPT OF TAXES EXPLAINS TO US THE REASON WHY THE PENALTY IS LARGE IN JANUARY IS BECAUSE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO PAY IT IN SEPTEMBER. HOWEVER, THERE'S A GRACE PERIOD FOR 50% OF YOUR, SO THERE'S OF YOUR SCHOOL TAX, YOU CAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, AND MANY PEOPLE PAY IT ALL IN SEPTEMBER, BUT YOU CAN DEFER 50% OF IT. BUT THAT'S A GRACE PERIOD. AND WHAT THIS IS, WHAT THIS WOULD BE DOING IS MAKING A GRACE PERIOD TO A GRACE PERIOD. UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT AN EASY, THAT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SET A STANDARD YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR THE, FOR THE SCHOOL TAX. AND IF YOU DO IT THIS YEAR AND THEN YOU DON'T DO IT NEXT YEAR, HOW YOU GOING TO EXPLAIN AND WHAT WE CAN TELL, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST, AT LEAST THE SUBJECT, UH, LATE PAYMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT WASN'T DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, IT WAS DUE TO FORGETTING TO PAY THE TAX. NOW THE, THE AFTERMATH OF THAT IS THAT THERE IS, THERE'S A PENALTY TO IT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S HARD TO PAY THAT PENALTY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE OUT OF WORK AND SO FORTH, BUT IT'S THE ACTUAL CAUSE OF THE LATE PAYMENT WAS FORGETTING. NO, I, I UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I MEAN, WE SHOULD JUST MAKE A DECISION. WE SPEND, WE SPEND THREE WORK SESSIONS, MAYBE FOUR, BUT AT LEAST THREE WORK SESSIONS HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSION, RIGHT? SO WE OR JAN. SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN REALLY CALL A QUESTION WITHOUT DIANA AND GINA, CAN WE OH, RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. I HAVE THAT PROXY, BY THE WAY. YEAH, I'M SURE. , I'M SURE YOU DON'T . I'M SURE YOU DO NOT. WELL, WE ASKED TIM, DID YOU? [01:00:01] WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT HAVE PAID ARE, UM, INFORMED THAT AT THIS POINT THEY HAVE TO PAY AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T, THERE'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL PENALTY AND, UH, AT FIRST, RIGHT? I, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO, THEY DESERVE TO KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BECAUSE MARCH 1ST, I THINK IS THEY'RE SITTING A PENALTY, RIGHT? OKAY, WELL, WE CAN HAVE A QUESTION, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT TOMORROW. AGAIN, COME UP WITH A DECISION. YOU MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS, UM, JUST HOLD ON THE AGENDA AND JUST SAY, DECI, IT COULD BE A, UH, DECISION AND THEN PEOPLE COULD, AND THEN, THEN IT'S DONE. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, MY, UH, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. YOU KNOW, I, YOUR, UH, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOUR, UH, YOUR CONS, ALTHOUGH I DISAGREE WITH YOU. I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING, WHAT YOU, YOU HAVE VALID, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, POINTS AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT, UM, FROM A PRESENT STANDPOINT AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LEGAL, UH, CONCERNS, GOOD DEEDS SOMETIMES, UH, UM, CREATE PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, LATER ON. UM, SO I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONING YOUR, YOU KNOW, COMMITMENT TO, UM, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE TO, TO RESIDENTS. AND THIS IS NOT LIKE CO EVEN NOW, I, I JUST, I JUST HAVE MY OWN VIEWS ON THIS, BUT I DO RESPECT PEOPLE'S VIEWS HAVE DEFERRED ME. AND AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS MEETING, UH, THAT YOU BROUGHT PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID IT LATE BEFORE, BEFORE THE BOARD, WE HAVE NEVER WAIVED THE PENALTY. AND THEN WHEN IT CAME TO ACTUALLY VOTING, YOU, YOU JOINED THE MAJORITY AND MADE IT UNANIMOUS THAT WE COULD NOT DO THAT BECAUSE WE SET A TERRIBLE PRECEDENT. UH, THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SEEM LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY OPPOSE, UH, OR SUPPORT WAIVING A PENALTY. YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. BUT YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT YOU BRING IT UP THREE MEETINGS IN A ROW, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT SEEM LIKE WE'RE BAD PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HELP SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD. AND WE JUST GOTTA IGNORE THE STANDARD THE STANDARD IS, IS THAT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN TO WAIVE THESE PENALTIES? NOW, UH, I UNDERSTAND IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE WHO PAID LATE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE STANDARD. IT'S THE STANDARD IS, IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN IN GENERAL. LOST THE WAY OF THE PENALTIES. AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THAT'S THE CASE. I I DON'T SEE ANYTHING. AND PARTICULARLY AFTER READING, YOU KNOW, UM, OPINION FROM OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I DON'T SEE HOW WE REACH THAT STANDARD. OKAY, THAT'S, THAT'S UP THEN WE'LL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION TOMORROW. IS THAT THE THING? AND THEN WE'LL BE DONE WITH THIS. AND IT'S HEARTBREAKING. THERE'S NO DOUBT. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS JOB IS NOT ALWAYS, NOT ALWAYS. YEAH. AND, AND ONLY REASON I SORT DIFFER RIGHT THIS YEAR FROM PREVIOUS YEARS IS BECAUSE, UM, OF THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, I REALLY FEEL THIS IS A, A, A VERY UNUSUAL TIME. SO I'M WILLING TO LIKE BEND THE, THE POLICY BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND BECAUSE OF THE, AND YOU KNOW, EVEN MENTIONING IF SOMEBODY'S OUT OF WORK, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ONE THING, YOU KNOW, I I I'M WILLING TO EVEN HAVE LIKE SOME STANDARDS OR DO SOMETHING A LITTLE, LITTLE DIFFERENT. JUST SORT OF LIKE THE HARDSHIP, YOU KNOW, PROVISIONS THAT WE DID IN APRIL AND THE TOWN BOARD DID APPROVE HARDSHIP PROVISIONS, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE AND THE STATE HAS NOT WEIGHED IN ON THIS. UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SCHOOL . BIG DIFFERENCE. BIG DIFFERENCE. THEY BASICALLY CHANGED THE STANDARD AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT. THERE'S NO CHANGING THE STANDARD AND IT'S THE RECEIVER OF TAXES SAID THAT SHE KNOWS OF NO OTHER MUNICIPALITY WAS DOING WHAT YOU PROPOSED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, WHAT ELSE? OKAY, NOW HAVE AGENDA REVIEW MEETING DATES? YES. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, UM, A COMMENT ON THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH CELEBRATION AND NOTE THAT IT'LL BE ABOUT, UM, A HALF AN HOUR, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS. UH, JUDITH DROPPED OFF BECAUSE SHE HAD A, UH, ANOTHER MEETING, SO SHE'S MOVING OVER ON THIS CALL. UM, SHE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH MYSELF AND, UH, TERRANCE JACKSON, UM, TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CELEBRATION WOULD CONSIST OF, WHICH IS, UH, BASICALLY, UM, A BRIEF TRIBUTE, UH, TO, UH, FORMER [01:05:01] COMMISSIONER ANDRE EARLY AND THEODORE D UM, COMMUNITY CENTER AND KIND OF FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, AS WELL AS A, UM, DISCUSSION BY GINA JACKSON. UM, ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STATUS OF, UM, UH, THE POLICE REFORM COMMITTEE THAT SHE AND COUNCIL AND SHE, UH, ATTEND AND, UM, ATTRIBUTE TO JOHNNY JONES, EVEN THOUGH, UH, BOARD MEMBERS DID SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT HIM. UM, AT THE, UM, THE LAST MEETING BEFORE THAT, UH, THIS WOULD BE IN, IN, IN KIND OF A DIFFERENT, UM, UM, PERSPECTIVE. AND, UM, I THINK ALSO SHE HAD SPOKEN TO COUNCILMAN JONES ABOUT KIND, UH, UPDATING THE STATUS OF THE MURAL THAT BE ON MANHATTAN AVENUE AND, UM, CLIFF , UM, SPEAK A LITTLE BIT. SO, UM, AGAIN, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE LONGER THAN A HALF AN HOUR, AND THAT MAY BE, UM, MUCH LONGER THAN IT'S GONNA BE, BUT SHE JUST WANTED ME TO MENTION THOSE THINGS. DO THE, DO THE, THERE'S FOUR PRESENTATIONS BEFORE THAT. HAVE THEY BEEN TOLD THAT THEY COULD SPEAK FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME? UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARTICIPANTS, THOSE OTHER FOUR PARTICIPANTS, OUR PUBLICATIONS BEFORE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH CELEBRATION, ARE THEY EACH SPEAKING FOR 10 MINUTES OR FIVE MINUTES OR, OH, I ALL, I ARE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. THEY'VE NEVER BEEN FIVE MINUTES IN THE PAST. , THEY HAVE LITERALLY NEVER BEEN FIVE MINUTES. WHAT IS THE CONVERSION FACTOR HERE? YEAH, . SO, SO IN OTHER WORDS, NO, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD THAT THEY SHOULD SPEAK FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME. THEY'RE JUST GONNA GET UP AND GO. OKAY. YEAH, MAX, SEE, SEE IF WE GOT GET THEM THE LIMITED, YOU KNOW, THE MAX OF 10 MINUTES, YOU KNOW, SAY FIVE, BUT THEN 10 WOULD BE OKAY, MAX, AND THEN WE HAVE DECISIONS. RIGHT. SENIOR LIVING, GARRETT, DID YOU MAKE THE TWEAKS THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE? YES, I DID. AND I SENT THEM TO, UH, UH, JOAN THIS AFTERNOON. OKAY. JOAN, ARE THEY UP ON THE, ON THE WEBSITE? NO, I DIDN'T. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE HIM UNTIL RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING. I WAS, WHEN I LEFT WORK TODAY, I DIDN'T COME STRAIGHT HOME. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL BE DOING MORNING. OKAY. WE'LL GET THAT UP. YEAH, I KNOWS WAS ON THE CALL AND WE DID, UM, WELL, I CERTAINLY DID HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW, WITH HIM ABOUT, UM, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS AS IT PERTAINS TO THE BREAKTHROUGH APPLICATION. AND AS WE DISCUSSED THE LAST TOWN BOARD MEETING, UM, I DID HAVE A, UM, A ZOOM MEETING WITH, WITH CLIFF AND DAVID COOPERMAN, GARRETT, AND, UM, A WOMAN, UH, BY THE NAME OF MARIA MILLER FOR, UM, FOR BRIGHT BLUE. AND THEY, THEY DO REALLY SEEM RECEPTIVE TO, UH, WORKING WITH, UM, CLIFF AND OR, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES, UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UM, EMPLOYMENT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND THEY WILL BE MEETING WITH PEOPLE. UM, AND I KNOW THAT CLIFF, YOU KNOW, MAY HAVE HAD SOME COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THAT. AND SO, UM, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, I, I'D LIKE TO RESOLVE THEM TODAY. UH, CLIFF, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY? WELL, YOU KNOW, WAS TALKING IN THAT MEETING, IT WAS MAINLY, I WAS LOOKING FOR LIKE BISHOP THE HOUSES, THE BUILDING WE WAS DEVELOPING IN THE FAIRVIEW AREA, BUT NOBODY FROM THE FAIRVIEW IN ANY THE APPOINTMENT OR GETTING ANY HOPE, BEING A PANDEMIC. PEOPLE NEED MONEY. THEY HAVE NO JOBS. AND I THINK WITH THESE THINGS COMING IN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE SIDEWALKS AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING, I THINK PEOPLE FROM THE FAIRVIEW AREA SHOULD GET JOBS. BECAUSE I KNOW IN OTHER AREAS, WHEN THEY BUILD, DEVELOP PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, GET JOBS, EVEN JUST LABORING. AND AS FAR AS THEIR APPRENTICESHIP, I FEEL THAT I, I AM WORTHY OF THAT BECAUSE I GOT A BEST INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY. I WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO LOOKING FOR WORK. I KNOW THE YOUNG YOUTH AND YOUNG ADULTS WHO WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN APPRENTICESHIP. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, GOOD FOR THE OUTREACH OF THAT AND I THINK INTO THIS. [01:10:02] YEAH. AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO, TO, TO WORK WITH, UM, WITH THE, WITH CLIFF OR ANY OTHER AGENCY. UH, THEN JUST A FEW AMBIGUITIES ABOUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY THEIR ROLE WOULD BE AND WHAT SPECIFICALLY CLIFF'S ROLE WOULD BE VIS-A-VIS THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES. AND AT SOME POINT WE WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. AND WE MADE CLEAR TO THEM THAT THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, PRO QUO OR THIS OR THAT IN TERMS OF PROVING THE DEVELOPMENTS TOMORROW, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE THAT MAY COME UP. SO I JUST WANTED TO INVITE THE TOWN BOARD TO RIGHT. POINTING OUT THAT ON THE AGENDA, WE'VE BEEN PUTTING A LINK TO WHERE ALL THE DOCUMENTS ARE. THERE ARE SO MANY DOCUMENTS RELATED TO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, AND IN PARTICULAR THE, THE BRIGHTVIEW LINE. SO RATHER THAN TRY TO REPRODUCE THEM ON AGENDA QUICK FOR THIS PARTICULAR NIGHT, UH, VOTING WHERE YOU JUST PUT THE LINK WHERE YOU CAN FIND THEM ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT IS. ALL RIGHT. AND WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. WERE YOU ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF, UH, THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATOR? YES, AND I DID SPEAK TO, UM, RICHARD SLINGER, THE VILLAGE MANAGER OF TAR TOWN. UM, AND UM, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION, BUT HE WILL BE SENDING SOME DOCUMENTATION OVER, UH, TO THE TOWN BOARD PROBABLY BEFORE THE NIGHT IS IS OVER. UM, HE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE, UM, OR HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 2020 CONTRACT TOMORROW, AND I ANTICIPATE THREE FIRE CHIEFS WILL BE ATTENDING, UM, TO WEIGH IN ON THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FUND. UM, SO WE SHOULD BE CONTINUING, UH, OR HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, TOMORROW. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA HOLD OVER THE EXTENSION OF THE CONSOLIDATED WATER DISTRICT BECAUSE WE NEED MORE, UH, INFORMATION. HAVE AN APPOINTMENT AT THE LIBRARY BOARD. TB ONE IS THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION, UM, ELIMINATING FROM OUR CODE CHAPTER 3 73, WHICH HAS VERY OBSOLETE, UM, PROVISIONS TO IT. NUMBER OF TAX CERTS. AND 18 SEVEN IS TO PAY FOR THE, UH, PARKING PLACEMENT AGENT, CORRECT? YEAH, WE NORMALLY DO THAT EARLIER. THIS SOMETHING, WELL, WE DON'T DO IT UNTIL THE, UM, THE 20, UH, 21, UM, BUDGET IS ADOPTED. YEAH. MUST BE A TYPO. YES. AND SO, UM, AND THEY, THEY DO ACTUALLY SUBMIT THIS AGREEMENT IN, UM, I WANNA SAY DECEMBER. UM, WE JUST HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. UM, SEE, JOAN, WOULD YOU JUST MAKE A NOTE THAT THERE WAS A TYPO IN THE YEAR FOR A T SEVEN? I'M DOING IT AS YOU SPEAK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BE ONE SETTING, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR TWO FIRE PROTECTION CONTRACTS WITH THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD. THIS IS JUST SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR MARCH 10TH. IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING BUDGET TRANSFERS IS ONCE A, WELL, WE'RE GETTING MONEY , WE'RE GETTING MORE MONEY. I GUESS WE SHOULD INCLUDE THE AMOUNTS HERE. AND THAT'S IT. GOOD. ARE WE GONNA DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? EVEN THOSE TWO COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE NOT AROUND, [01:15:02] I BELIEVE. UH, I DO BELIEVE THEY WILL BE BACK, BUT NOT, UM, FOR ANOTHER 30 MINUTES OR SO. WOULD YOU WANNA TAKE LIKE A HALF HOUR BREAK? UH, I WOULD A NIGHT. I WOULD NOT MIND THAT AT ALL. YEAH. SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE LIKE A BREAK THEN? SHOULD WE, DO WE MAKE IT LIKE EIGHT 15? IT IT'S 45 IN CASE WE HAVE BREAK. I DON'T CARE. YEAH, YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR INTEREST, RIGHT? PAUL ? YEAH, EXACTLY. NO, YOU CAN SAY YOU WANNA DO EIGHT O'CLOCK, EIGHT O'CLOCK OR EIGHT 15, WHATEVER YOU WANT, RIGHT? IT, IT, EIGHT 15 IS FINE. IT GIVES THEM, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAY, MORE TIME TO, UH, TO COME ON. I'M GONNA LEAVE, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL ACTUALLY SIGN OFF. WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ONCE YOU MAKE A MOTION. AND THEN, UH, I'M GONNA LEAVE THE MEETING OPEN SO THAT ANYONE WHO'S COMING ON WILL KNOW THAT THERE'S A HOME. I'LL HANG OUT AND BE ABLE TO TELL THEM THAT IT'S JUST DELAYED. OKAY. AND SO LET ME GO BACK, COMING BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU'LL NEED? DO I KNOW WHAT, WHO YOU MIGHT NEED AND WHO YOU MIGHT NOT? UM, WE'RE STILL RECORDING, RIGHT? YES, I'M, WELL, WE HAVEN'T GONE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION YET. WE GOT TO, I WAS GONNA MAKE THIS MOTION HERE. YES, I'M, UH, I'M, UH, MAKING A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR, UH, PERSONNEL CONTRACTS, LEGAL ADVICE. AYE. AND WE'LL SECOND YOU ALL IN FAVOR. SECOND. AYE. AYE, AYE. OKAY. WE WON'T BE COMING BACK THIS EVENING, BUT WE'LL BE CONTINUING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO RESUME AT EIGHT 15. OKAY, THANKS. BUT, BUT WE CAN, GEORGE CAN GO HOME. I ASSUME IT'S GEORGE. YES. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.