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EVENING EVERYONE.UM, I AM JUST, UH, ALERTING EVERYONE THAT OUR, UM, JOHN GREENBERG'S EMAIL SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS.
IF YOU HAVE TRIED TO REACH MR. SCHMIDT OR MYSELF, OR ANYONE AT THE TOWN REGARDING AN APPLICATION TONIGHT, UM, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT.
UH, HOWEVER, UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT PEOPLE WATCHING THIS EBIRD, EITHER OUT ON CABLE TV OR THROUGH, UH, ZOOM, UH, OR ON THE WEBSITE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO WANNA PARTICIPATE AND THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY, UH, ON THE ZOOM CALL, THEY CAN CONTACT DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, OF COURSE, 9 1 4 9 8 9 15 34.
UH, AND THEN HE CAN PROVIDE A LINK FOR YOU, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN GET ON AND, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING.
ALRIGHT, UH, UH, THANK YOU, UH, DAVIS FOR THAT INFORMATION.
UM, CHAIRPERSON STEIN, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
I, I, I THOUGHT MAYBE I COULD ALSO, UM, STATE THE MEETING ID BECAUSE FOLKS THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH ZOOM, IF WE PROVIDE THAT MEETING ID AND THEY'RE INTERESTED, THEY CAN, UM, ENTER INTO THE WAITING ROOM AND WE WILL ADMIT THEM.
SO, THAT MEETING ID NUMBER FOR THIS EVENING IS 8 6 9 2 8 8 9 8 4 9 7.
COULD YOU REPEAT THAT JUST IN CASE? SURE.
AND WE WILL REPEAT THAT BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING, JUST IN CASE.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO PROCEED WITH, UH, TONIGHT'S, UH, MEETING, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF, OF MARCH 17TH, UH, 2021.
I ASKED DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT TO CALL THE ROLL CALL CHAIRPERSON.
I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBER SAI WILL NOT BE PRESENT THIS EVENING.
UM, THE FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS TO REVIEW THE MINUTES OF MARCH THE THIRD.
UH, I HAVE NO COMMENT AND I, UH, ASKED IF ANY OTHER, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE A COMMENT ON THE MINUTES OF MARCH THE THIRD.
IF THERE'S NO COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE MINUTES BE ACCEPTED AS WRITTEN.
UH, THE, THE NEXT THING IS ON CORRESPONDENCE, AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE TWO STATEMENTS REGARDING CORRESPONDENCE.
UM, IN, IN, UH, 2008 WHEN THERE WAS A, A DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY, THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD EXERCISED A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND APPROVAL, IMPROVING EXTENSION AND, AND, UH, NOW WITH COVID, UH, THIS LAST YEAR, A LOT OF WORK HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PROGRESS.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD EXERCISE, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR FLEXIBILITY IN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD EXTEND, UH, APPROVAL.
THE OTHER POINT IS THAT IN, IN SCHEDULING NORMALLY, UH, WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING TO AN APPLICANT AND WE WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WE ASK THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY COULD PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SO THE APPLICANT CAN PROVIDE IT.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT PROCESS THAT WE TOTALLY IGNORE WHETHER OR NOT THE EFFECTIVE DEPART EFFECTIVE DEPARTMENTS, THE DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS THE, UH, UM, THE D P W, THE BUILDINGS DEPARTMENT OR ENGINEERS, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK
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AT THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE AND, AND, AND GIVE AN OPINION ON.WE MIGHT LOOK AT A HOUSE AND SAY, WELL, IF YOU JUST STRIP THE HOUSE THIS WAY AND TURN THE, THE DRIVEWAY THAT WAY, IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO US.
BUT THAT MIGHT MEAN A WHOLE STEEP SLOPE ANALYSIS THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS TO DO OR MIGHT AFFECT THE DRAINAGE OR THE WETLANDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO IN THE FUTURE, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS NOT TO GIVE A PERMANENT DATE.
WE SAY THIS IS A TENTATIVE DATE.
UH, AND THEN, UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT WILL SPEAK TO THE EFFECTIVE DETECTIVE DEPARTMENT, AND, AND IF THEY AGREE THAT THEY COULD GET ALL THE INFORMATION IN THAT TIME, THEN THAT BECOMES A SOLID DATE.
IF THEY SAY, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, THEN WE'LL GET BACK.
I'LL GET, UH, I'LL SPEAK TO DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT AND WE'LL SCHEDULE ANOTHER DAY.
SO THIS WILL GIVE THE DEPARTMENTS ENOUGH TIME TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, A REAL ANALYSIS, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.
WE WANT TO GIVE THEM SUFFICIENT TIME TO GIVE UP.
SO THAT IS HOW I LIKE TO PROCEED IN THE FUTURE.
AND ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I'M WELCOME.
SO I GUESS WITH NO, SO THAT'S THE WAY I WILL PROCEED IN OR PROCEED IN THE FUTURE.
SO WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE, UH, ON OUR, UH, THERE ARE TWO REQUESTS.
WE HAVE ONE FOR MARIA REGINA HIGH SCHOOL, UH, FOR A TWO YEAR EXTENSION OF THE STEEP SLOPE ROPE.
AND ANOTHER ONE, UH, UH, MARIA TRUCKING FOR A ONE YEAR EXTENSION, UH, UH, OF THE SITE PLAN.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FROM MARIA? REGINA? I'M HERE.
COULD YOU JUST GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND SO, UH, WE KNOW EXACTLY THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN FACED AND WHY YOU WANTED TO ASK FOR THIS EXTENSION? OKAY.
AGAIN, I'M THE CONSULTANT FOR THE SCHOOL.
TODAY'S WAS, WAS A HOLIDAY, SO THEY WERE CLOSED AND I COULDN'T GET THEM ONLINE.
WHAT THEY'VE TOLD ME IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, FUNDING THE FIELD AND TRACK AND FIELD IS AN ISSUE AND THEY NEED MORE TIME TO DO THAT.
AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR FUNDING OPERATIONS, C O STRUCK.
SO PRIORITIES CHANGED, STILL SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN PURSUING THIS PROJECT.
THEY JUST NEED ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO FUND IT AND GET IT DONE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? GO, WALTER? SURE.
I THINK I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS VOTE.
I WAS, UH, UM, CIVIC ASSOCIATION CO-PRESIDENT AT THE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL PROJECT, AND I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF AT THIS TIME.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, MY ONLY QUESTION IS A TWO YEAR EXTENSION.
IT'S AN AWFULLY LONG EXTENSION, UM, AND I'M, WHY IS IT, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE THAT MUCH BEFORE THEY CAN GET, GET BACK AND DO ANYTHING? I AM JUST ASSUMING THAT COMING UP WITH THE, THE $1.78 MILLION IS GONNA TAKE THAT LONG FOR THEM TO, TO RAISE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS ON IN THIS REGARD? NO.
DO YOU HAVE A THEN, UH, DO WE HAVE A PROPOSAL TO EXTEND, UH, THIS A, A, UH, APPROVAL FOR TWO YEARS? SO MOVED SECOND.
SO IF, IF THAT DOESN'T GO, DOES THAT GO DAVID, DOES THAT GO IN THE RECORD AS OBTAINED? MONA? WHAT MONA JUST SAID? NO, SHE RECUSE THE SOUTH.
THAT GOES DOWN AS AN EXTENSION OR NO VOTE? NO, IT'S A NO VOTE.
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APPLICATION IS MARIA TRUCKING.DO WE HAVE A, UH, APP APPLICANT FROM THE MARIA TRUCKING? OKAY.
UH, PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU, LET'S SEEKING, THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES, BUT, UH, UH, IN INVOLVED IN THE APPLICATION LOT A AND A LOT B, BUT THEY, UH, NO, THERE ONE PROJECT EVEN THOUGH THERE'S TWO LOT, UH, COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO THE BOARD WHY YOU ARE SEEKING A ONE YEAR EXTENSION? YES, UH, GOOD EVENING.
UH, JAMES CARIS WITH J M C, WE ARE THE, UH, CONSULTANTS FOR, UH, MALAYA TRUCKING.
AND, UH, THEY'RE SEEKING ANOTHER ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVALS FOR BOTH PROPERTIES.
UM, THIS YEAR THEY'VE HAD TO REORGANIZE THEIR BUSINESS FOCUS, UH, ELSEWHERE, UM, DUE TO THE PANDEMIC AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE PRIMARY REASON, UH, DELAYED ANOTHER YEAR.
UM, BUT EVERY TIME WE REACH OUT TO THEM AND ARE IN CONTACT WITH THEM, UH, THE ASSERTION IS THAT YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THESE APPROVALS, UH, GOING FORWARD SO THAT, UH, WHEN THE TIME COMES TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTING THIS PROJECT, WE'RE ABLE TO DO SO.
SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT IS IT, IT IS STILL THEIR INTENT TO ULTIMATELY CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT AS APPROVED? NO.
IS IT REALISTIC THAT THEY THINK THAT THEY COULD, UH, START THE PROJECT IN A YEAR OR A YEAR FROM THERE? THEY'LL COME BACK AND ASK FOR ANOTHER EXTENT.
I SUPPOSE THAT'S, THAT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE MAY BE IN THE SAME POSITION IN ONE YEAR FROM NOW.
UM, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT DEFINITIVELY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THE ENTERTAIN A PROPOSAL TO, UH, FOR A SECOND REQUEST TO EXTEND THE APPROVAL, SOME OF CHAIRPERSON.
SIMON, UH, BEFORE YOU HAVE THE MOTION TO TAKE THE VOTE, WE JUST WANT TO SPLIT IT INTO TWO.
I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, FIRST FOCUS ON CASE NUMBER PB 17 DASH 19 A AND AGAIN, THAT MALAYA TRUCKING LOT A HAN AVENUE, AND THAT'S FOR, UM, AN EXTENSION OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
SO WE'LL GO ON NEXT TO, UH, UH, THE SECOND LOT B, WHICH IS P B 17 DASH 19 B.
AND AGAIN, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO GRANT THE ONE YEAR EXTENSION? SO MOVED.
UH, UM, BEFORE US, WE HAVE SEVERAL DECISIONS THAT, UH, WE HAVE TO MAKE.
THEY ARE IN, UH, I'LL TAKE THEM IN ORDER.
WELL, DO I HAVE A SUGGESTION? SINCE WE HAVE, UH, MR. BURN HERE, SHOULD WE GET MR. BURN BUSINESS OUT OF THE WAY SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO SIT THROUGH ALL THIS? JUST A SUGGESTION.
GENERALLY THIS ARE VERY RAPID, BUT SEEING HOW WE HAVE FOUR THEN, UH, YES, WE COULD ADJUST THE PROPOSAL, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF, UH, AND REC RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSION IN FRONT OF THE, UH, BEFORE THIS BOARD AND WE COULD HAVE THAT DONE.
THANKS, MR. SO I'LL THANK YOU.
AND I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK OVERVIEW HERE.
UM, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CASE NUMBER TB 21 DASH ZERO FIVE WEST BROOK PARK PLAYGROUND CONSTRUCTION, LOCATED AT 2305 SAW MILL RIVER ROAD.
PO ELMSFORD PLANNING BOARD WILL BE DISCUSSING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD REGARDING THE PROPOSED USE OF UP TO $23,000 OF RE RECREATION ESCROW FUNDS FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTING A PLAYGROUND AT WEST BROOK PARK.
COMMISSIONER BY IS HERE THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROPOSAL AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS.
GOOD EVENING, UH, PLANNING BOARD.
UH, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK TO TALK TO YOU.
UM, THIS IS A SMALLER SCALE PROJECT.
UM, NOPE, MY PHONE JUST WENT ON AND, UM, UH, WE HAVE A SORT OF A SMALL, BUT, UH, A REALLY, UH, I THINK FUN PROJECT THAT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, UH, AT WESTBROOK PARK.
UH, THAT'S, IF THAT'S ON, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OFF OF NINE A, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE TEAMSTER BUILDING IS, IT'S RIGHT
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THERE.YOU KNOW, I CAN SHOW IT FOR EVERYONE.
UM, WE HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE RIGHT AGREEMENT WITH THE, UH, ALLENSWORTH LITTLE LEAGUE, AND WE PROBABLY HAVE CLOSE TO 800 CHILDREN THAT UTILIZE THIS FACILITY, UH, REALLY FROM, UH, APRIL ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF OCTOBER.
AND, UH, AT THIS PARK WE'VE NEVER HAD A PLAYGROUND.
UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF MEMBERS ON THE, UH, ADVISORY BOARD NOW, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN OXFORD LITTLE LEAGUE.
AND THEY APPROACHED US, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT, UH, 12 MONTHS AGO ABOUT, UH, THE NEED TO HAVE A PLAYGROUND.
SO, UH, WORKING WITH THEM, WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN, UH, WITH AN IDEA OF USING, UH, PARKLAND FUNDS, UH, NOT TO EXCEED $23,000 FOR A SMALL PLAYGROUND ON A SMALL LOT OF ABOUT 40 FEET BY, UH, 22 FEET.
UM, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN EXCLUSIVE PARK FOR PEOPLE, THE PARK IS STILL OPEN TO ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC.
AND, UH, THIS PLAYGROUND, WHEN IT'S BUILT, UH, THE PARK IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FROM, UH, SUNRISE TO SUNSET AND, UH, IT'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL.
SO AT THE, UH, MARCH 3RD, UH, PARK AND REC ADVISORY BOARD, I MADE A PRESENTATION, UH, WITH A DESIGN WE HAD PUT TOGETHER.
UH, IT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AND, UH, USING PARKLAND FUNDS AND AS REQUIRED, UH, WE ARE, UH, UH, UH, REQUIRED TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, PRESENT THIS PROJECT SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION UP OR DOWN BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD IS THE DECISION MAKING, UH, BODY TO DECIDE WHETHER TO RELEASE IT.
WHAT'S INTERESTING AS YOU SEE AT THIS PHOTO RIGHT NOW THAT AARON PUT UP, UH, IS THAT THIS IS WESTBROOK PARK.
IF YOU SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UH, BEHIND IT, THAT'S BABBITT COURT.
UM, IN ORANGE, UH, THAT IS WHERE WE'RE HAVING THE PROPOSED PLAYGROUND, WHICH IS NEXT TO ANOTHER, UH, UH, PARKLAND FUNDED PROJECT, WHICH WAS WHERE WE HAD THESE, UH, SHADE STRUCTURE.
UM, THE BUDGET OF $23,000 WOULD INVOLVE $17,800 IN CHANGE FOR THE ACTUAL EQUIPMENT, UH, HAVING THE POST INSTALLED.
NORMALLY A PLAYGROUND LIKE THAT COULD GO 35 TO $40,000.
AND THE REASON WHY IT'S A LOT LOWER IS THAT I WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE, UH, ELMSFORD LITTLE LEAGUE, UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
AND THIS WILL BE, UH, ASSISTED FROM THE PLAYGROUND PROVIDER INSTALLER.
UM, THEY'RE GOING TO INSTALL IT, SO IT'LL BE, WE'LL PICK A DAY, UH, YOU KNOW, LATER IN THE YEAR IF APPROVED, WHERE WE'RE, COME ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, HAVE A BUILD OUT AND, AND WE CAN BUILD IT.
UM, IF YOU TAKE THAT ONE DOWN.
UH, AARON, UM, I HAVE TWO PHOTOS.
I DUNNO IF YOU ALLOW ME TO SHARE, I CAN SHOW YOU THE DESIGN.
YES, WE'VE ENABLED TO SHARE JERRY.
UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, UH, SIMPLE PLAYGROUND, UM, WHERE IT HAS SLIDE THE STEPS.
UH, SOME CLIMBING APPARATUS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE, UH, THE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD, AND IT'S FOR AGES FIVE TO 12.
THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT, UH, BEFORE SOME OF THE, UH, CHILDREN ARE, ARE, ARE PLAYING GAMES, THEY'RE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY AS A WAITING TO USE PLAYGROUND OR THEIR SIBLINGS.
AND WHEN I WAS EXCITED ABOUT THIS, AND THAT WAS CONDITIONAL OF OUR RESOLUTION, IS THAT THIS PLAYGROUND MUST BE OPEN, UH, TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, WHENEVER THE PARK IS, UH, OPEN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WHETHER THERE'S, UH, LITTLE LEAGUE GAMES GOING OR NOT, ANY FAMILY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT.
AND WE'VE NEVER HAD A PLAYGROUND ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ASSET.
I'LL TAKE THAT ONE DOWN AND THEN JUST SHOW YOU FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE.
THIS IS, THIS IS FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
AND I THINK IT JUST THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF IT, THEY JUST FLIPPED IT OVER WITH THE SAME BACKDROP SO YOU CAN GET AN ANGLE, YOU KNOW, FOR, UH, ON THAT LEVEL.
UM, SO IT'S A PRETTY, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHTFORWARD, UH, PROJECT THAT WE HAVE HERE.
AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE, THE ADDITIONAL $5,200 IS REALLY FOR CONTINGENCY OF SENDING COMES UP.
WE'RE ALSO USED THAT FUNDING FOR THE WOOD CHIPS AND, UH, PAYING FOR THE CONCRETE BEFORE WE SET THE, UH, POST IN PLACE.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU IN, IN, UH, REALLY GETTING, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO DO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION WORK OF THE UNIT AND THEN REDUCE YOUR COST FROM $50,000, WHICH WAS BUDGETED DOWN TO 23,000, WHICH I DON'T KNOW, THE MATH WAS ONLY ABOUT 45%.
YEAH, 50,000 WAS A LITTLE HIGH.
WALTER, I THINK IT'S CALLED HIGH.
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TO 35, 40,000.BUT AT ANY RATE, UH, I THINK IT WAS VERY GOOD.
AND, AND THEREFORE WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR YOU TO SAY 45% OF ALL THE OTHER NUMBERS.
BUT JOB, YOU KNOW, JOB LOVE, UH, ARE, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OF, UH, ABOUT THIS PROJECT CONCERNS OR, UH, YEAH, I, I HAVE ONE, JERRY.
I, MY DAUGHTER PLAYED LITTLE LEAGUE THERE, AND I REMEMBER THAT FIELD CAN BE REALLY WET AND MUDDY IN THE SPRING.
UH, IS THIS IN THE FLOOD, FLOOD AREA IS GONNA BE RAISED A LITTLE BIT? OR, OR HOW ARE YOU MITIGATING THAT? UH, A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, THE WHOLE PARK IS IN THE FLOOD ZONE, UH, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE SIX FEET OFF.
UM, OUR EXPERIENCE WHEN IT HA DOES OVERFLOW, LIKE WE HAVE THE FENCING, LIKE, I THINK I HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE MAYBE IF I COULD SHARE AGAIN, THERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE.
CAN YOU SEE THIS ONE HERE? UH, YEAH.
AND IF YOU SEE WHERE WE, WE HAD THE PICNIC TABLES AND THAT'S THE SHUN SUNSHADE STRUCTURE, RIGHT.
THAT WAS A, UH, A PARKLAND FUND PROJECT RIGHT TO THE SIDE OF IT, BESIDE BY THE PLANTERS AND THE GARBAGE PAILS WITH A PLAYGROUND.
AND RUM BROOKE RUNS RIGHT PARALLEL TO THAT.
SO IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE, UH, THE FLOOD ZONE.
BUT JUST LIKEWISE FOR THE, UH, THE SHADE STRUCTURE AND THE FENCING WE HAVE WHEN IT FLOODS, WE'VE NEVER HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE, UH, FOOTINGS, UH, GOING AWAY.
'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT LIKE WEIGHTBEARING AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE OPEN FREE WHERE THE WATER CAN GO THROUGH.
SO IT DOESN'T PUT AS MUCH PRESSURE, UM, COULD THEY, COULD DAMAGE OCCUR.
BUT WE'VE HAD SOME PRETTY BAD FLOODS, UH, STRUCTURES LIKE THAT, UH, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WITHSTAND THE FLOODING WHEN IT, WELL, NOT THE STRUCTURAL PART.
I WAS MORE WORRIED, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ABOUT THE WOOD CHIPS FLOATING AWAY AND A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.
THE WOOD CHIPS WOULD BE WASHED AWAY, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, AND I WOULD HAVE TO REPLENISH IT.
BUT THAT'S NOT A BIG TICKETED ITEM.
AND SINCE THERE'S NO, IS THERE ANY ALTERNATE SURFACE YOU COULD USE? WELL, THE WOOD CHIPS, WELL, THERE IS AN ALTERNATE TO USE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE PRACTICAL.
WHERE IF I HAD A CONCRETE BASE AND I HAD A RUBBERIZED SURFACING, I, I, I THINK THAT COULD BE CAUSED FOR MORE DAMAGE OF GETTING UNDERNEATH THE WATER.
AND A FLOOD WOOD CHIPS IS ORGANIC, IT FLOODS AWAY.
IT CAN DETERIORATE INTO THE, YOU KNOW, INTO THE GROUND.
AND IT'D BE EASIER JUST TO REPLACE IT WITH, UH,
JERRY, IS THIS THE ONLY PIECE OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT IN AT THIS POINT? YES.
AND I, I, I, IT'S, IT'S A SMALL APPARATUS, JUST ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT, IT CAN PROVIDE RECREATION AND ALMOST LIKE WHEN FAMILIES ARE THERE AND, UH, THEY'RE PLAYING A GAME AND, AND YOU, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SISTER OR BROTHER
BUT THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT WE, WE WILL TAKE THAT ONTO, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATION.
BUT HE HAS A SECOND, UM, WINDOW ON HIS PHONE.
I THINK HE'S USING HIS AUDIO THROUGH A DIFFERENT, UH, DEVICE AND IT ACCIDENTALLY GOT MUTED.
UH, UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PROJECT TO THE TOWN BOARD.
OKAY, JERRY, THANKS AGAIN FOR WELL THOUGHT OUT PRESENTATION.
UH, WHEN YOU COME BEFORE THIS BOARD, YOU ALWAYS HAVE YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
AND YOU'VE TRAINED ME VERY WELL.
JERRY, UH, THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CASE NUMBER PB 20 DASH 17 HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL, LOCATED AT ONE 12 NORTH LAWN AVENUE, ALSO FRONTING ON NORTH EVERETT AVENUE IN THE R FIVE ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT.THE PLANNING BOARD WILL BE CONSIDERING A DECISION ON THE APPLICANT'S PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AND PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION INVOLVING A PROPOSAL TO SUBDIVIDE ONE EXISTING LOT INTO TWO BUILDABLE LOTS FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTING TWO NEW SINGLE FAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESIDENCES WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS FRONTING ON NORTH EDWARDS AVENUE.
PLANNING BOARD CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER DURING ITS FEBRUARY 17TH MEETING.
ADDITIONAL EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE WAS RECEIVED FROM A NEIGHBOR, WHICH WAS FORWARDED TO THE BOARD, TO THE APPLICANT AND MADE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.
THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A RESPONSE WHICH WAS FORWARDED TO THE BOARD AND ALSO MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
A DRAFT DECISION HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
I'M HAPPY TO REVIEW THE DECISION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT TO THE BOARD THREE THINGS THAT A SPECIAL CONDITION THAT ARE IN THIS, UM, DRAFT DECISION.
UH, UM, ONE WAS THE, UH, THE APPROPRIATE STREET ADDRESS WOULD BE ON EVERETT AVENUE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING IT ON LAWN.
UH, THE OTHER ISSUE, THE OTHER ISSUE WAS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S ON A NARROW STREET, WE HAVE, UM, UM, SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL REQUIREMENTS WHEN CONSTRUCTION TAKES PLACE ON THAT NARROW STREET.
AND THE THIRD THING IS, UH, THIS IS A NONPROFIT, WHICH IS A, A BUILDING TO AFFORDABLE HOME.
AND THEY WILL BE ASKING THE TOWN BOARD TO, UH, UM, NOT TO REQUIRE THE PAYMENT INTO THE, UH, RECREATION ACCOUNT, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT $17,280.
WE CAN'T MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, BUT WE JUST RECOGNIZE THAT PART OF THIS APPLICATION, THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE GONE BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD TO SEEK RELIEF FROM THAT.
SO THOSE THREE THINGS ARE, UH, I, UH, ARE IN THE APPLICATION COMMENT.
WE DO HAVE TWO, TWO VOTES IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
UH, THE FIRST WOULD BE TO CONSIDER THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, AND THE SECOND WOULD BE TO CONSIDER THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
WITH SEEING HOW THERE'S NO APPLIC, UH, THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WILL GO RIGHT THROUGH THE VOTE TO THE FIRST VOTE FOR A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO GRANT THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION? I'D SAY IT WAS MICHAEL SECOND, IN SECOND BY TOM.
AND THE OTHER, UH, VOTE WE HAVE TO TAKE IS REGARD TO THE STEEP SLOPE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO GRANT THE, UH, THE SPEAK SLOPE? SO MOVED.
UH, UH, THE NEXT ONE IS PB 1913 THOMPSON AT TWO 11 SOMO RIVER ROAD.
BEFORE THAT, JUST WANNA THANK THE APPLICANT, UH, LET, UH, MS. NEWNAN KNOW THAT, UH, THERE'S NO NEED TO STAY ON FOR THE, UH, REMAIN ON THE MEETING, BUT SHE'S ALWAYS WELCOME.
AND, AND, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS ALSO.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE SELECT APPLICATION.
UH, WHY DON'T WE HAVE TO DO A SEEL ON THIS? SO, UH, TWO THINGS.
ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, JUST READ THROUGH MY INTRO AND THEN SECOND.
THE FIRST VOTE THAT YOU WOULD BE CONSIDERING THIS EVENING WOULD BE TO CLASSIFY THE PROJECT AS A TYPE TWO ACTION.
AND THAT'S AS LAID OUT IN THE DRAFT DECISION, BUT
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VERY QUICKLY AS CHAIRPERSON SIMON INDICATED, UH, THIS NEXT CASE IS PB 1913 THOMPSON LOCATED AT 2111 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, PO WHITE PLAINS LOCATED WITHIN THE R 21 FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT.THE PLANNING BOARD WILL BE CONSIDERING A DECISION ON THE APPLICANT'S PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS INVOLVING THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW DETACHED APPROXIMATELY 1700 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE STRUCTURE AND RELATED 1,157 SQUARE FOOT DRIVEWAY EXPANSION, WHICH ENTAILS REGULATED STEEP SLOPE DISTURBANCE AND REGULATED TREE REMOVALS.
AND CURRENTLY THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO LEGALIZE THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED SITE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING THE REPAIR AND EXPANSION OF PATHWAYS AND RELATED STAIRWAYS REPAIR AND CONSTRUCTION OF RETAINING WALLS, REGRADING ACTIVITIES AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, AND VARIOUS BUILDING AND PATIO.
ENCLOSURES, PLANNING BOARD CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER DURING ITS MARCH 3RD MEETING.
NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED SINCE THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD.
THE APPLICANT PROVIDED AN UPDATED PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES A PLANTER WHERE PAVEMENT ORIGINALLY WAS PROPOSED, AS WELL AS A TIMBER GUIDE RAIL ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE DRIVEWAY FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.
AND I'M HAPPY TO SHOW THAT PLAN TO THE BOARD BEFORE ANY VOTES ARE TAKEN.
WE DRAFT DECISIONS BEEN PREPARED FOR THIS EVENING, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAVE.
SO LEMME SEE IF I CAN, UH, PULL UP THAT FOR ONE.
WAS THAT, WAS THAT FINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN SENT OUT? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT IN MY RECORDS, SO IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO BRING IT UP NOW.
SO THIS IS THE, THIS IS A, UH, COPY OF THE REVISED PLAN.
AND JUST TO QUICKLY POINT OUT, UM, I CAN TRY AND ZOOM IN ON IT, BUT, UH, THERE'S AN ARROW AND THIS LITTLE SECTION, WHICH WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, IT HAD BEEN PROPOSED, AND THIS IS KIND OF IT BLOWN UP.
THE PAVEMENT HAD GONE ALL THE WAY AND IT WAS ADJACENT TO THE STAIRWELL AND THIS RETAINING WALL, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS BOARD MEMBER HAY WHO HAD, YOU KNOW, ASKED IF THE APPLICANT COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE SOME OF THE PAVEMENT AND GREEN UP THE AREA.
SO THEY HAVE A 16 FOOT BY 12 FOOT, UM, PROPOSED PLANTER.
ADDITIONALLY, IN THE COURSE OF THE DISCUSSION, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT OFF THE RIGHT EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY, AT LEAST IN CERTAIN AREAS, IT DOES, UM, SLOPE DOWN QUITE A BIT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
AND THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER INDICATED THAT HE COULD PROVIDE A TIMBER GUIDE RAIL ALONG THE FULL EXTENT OF THE DRIVEWAY, BOTH EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED SECTION FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, UM, PARTICULARLY AT NIGHT.
HE PROVIDED A DETAIL OF THE TIMBER GUIDE RAIL AND, UH, I REVIEWED THAT WITH ONE OF OUR, UM, MEMBERS OF OUR BUREAU OF ENGINEERING WHO FOUND IT TO APPEAR TO BE ADEQUATE FOR THE USE INVOLVED WITH THE SITE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THOSE ITEMS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THIS EVENING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THIS, UH, REVISED INFO? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE DOWN THE SHARE SCREEN.
SO AS THE CHAIRPERSON MENTIONED, UH, THE BOARD HAS NOT, UH, MADE A DECISION WITH RESPECT TO SEEKER, BUT STAFF RECOMMENDS AND NOTES THAT THIS PROJECT DOES QUALIFY AS A TYPE TWO ACTION UNDER SEEKER.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST VOTE TO CONSIDER THIS EVENING, FOLLOWED BY THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
AND LASTLY, THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
OKAY, SO THE, THE FIRST VOTE, DO WE HAVE, UH, A MOTION TO CLASSIFY THIS AS A TYPE TWO ACTION? SO, MOVED.
UH, THE NEXT UM, VOTE IS ONE OF GRANTING A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
MICHAEL, YOU DOES YOUR MOVE? YES.
SO, UM, THE LAST ONE IS A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
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AND, AND THIS IS CONSISTENT, ALL OF THESE DECISIONS ON THE TREE IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR LATEST, UH, UH, TREAT ORDER.IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
STANDARD PROCEDURE NOW THAT WHEN WE GRANT PERMISSION, IT'LL BE CONSISTENT WITH, UH, UH, WITH THE LATEST, UM, TREAT PERMIT LAW THAT WAS ENACTED PROPOSAL TO GRANT A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
UM, SO MOVE, UH, SO THIS DRAFT, UH, DECISION IS FINALIZED.
SO THE NEXT CASE ON THE AGENDA IS CASE NUMBER PB 14 DASH ZERO TWO SOLANO SUBDIVISION, LOCATED AT BARNABY LANE PO HARTSDALE IN THE R 21 FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT BOARD WILL BE, I HAVE THAT 14 DASH ONE TWO, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
I'M SORRY, IT WAS A TYPO IN MY, UM, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IN MY, UH, LITTLE CHEAT SHEET I HAD IT INCORRECTLY.
14 DASH 12, AGAIN, THE SOLANO SUBDIVISION BARNABY LANE PO HARTSDALE IN THE R 21 FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT PLANNING BOARD WILL BE CONSIDERING A DECISION ON THE APPLICANT'S FINAL SUBDIVISION AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS INVOLVING THE SUBDIVISION OF ONE TAX LAW PREVIOUSLY CREATED BY DEEDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF CREATING ONE LEGAL BUILDING LAW.
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL WAS GRANTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2017 HAS BEEN EXTENDED BY THE BOARD AND CURRENTLY REMAINS VALID.
THE FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT WAS RECEIVED AND OUR OFFICE HAS CONFIRMED THAT NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL WAS GRANTED.
UM, QUICKLY, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT AS THE CHAIRPERSON MENTIONED, WITH RESPECT TO PROJECTS MOVING THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD AT THIS TIME AND THEIR CONSISTENCY WITH THE NEWTOWN TREE ORDINANCE, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT FOR EXTENSIONS AND FOR PROJECTS THAT PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED APPROVALS FROM THE TOWN, THEY CAN QUALIFY UNDER THE FORMER LAW.
AND THAT IS THE CASE WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED FOR ALL PROJECTS, AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE, UM, PARTICULARLY IF THERE'S AN EXTENSION OR A PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY RECEIVED APPROVAL.
SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, AS NOTED DRAFT
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UH, A DRAFT DECISION HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING, AND I'M HAPPY TO REVIEW THAT DECISION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
BEFORE THE, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE ACTUAL APPLICATION, UH, UM,
THERE WAS NO CHANGES MADE BASED UPON THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO CHANGES MADE.
I ASKED, UH, UH, I ASKED FOR A PROPOSAL TO DO AWAY WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE IT'S NOT NECESS, NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
SO, UH, I ENTERTAIN, UH, UH, A PROPOSAL TO NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVE, WE WAIVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FINAL SUBDIVISION.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE APPLICATION ITSELF? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REVIEW IT.
I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT DRAWING FOR A FEW MORE MINUTES.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE SEEN IT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS, HASN'T CHANGED.
SO JUST TO, TO RECAP BARNABY LANE DOWN HERE, THIS LOT WAS CREATED BY IDED, BUT NEVER FORMALLY SUBDIVIDED.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT WAS REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS EVEN THOUGH THE LOT AND THE DIMENSIONS OF THE LOT ALL EXISTED PREVIOUSLY.
UM, SO THEY HAD GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AS, AS YOU MAY KNOW THERE, THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION WAS EXTENDED A NUMBER OF TIMES.
UNFORTUNATELY, UH, MR. SOLANO HAD PASSED AWAY DURING THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT.
MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE ESTATE WAS HANDLING IT.
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NOW, UH, MR. SIA, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNERS OF THE SITE AND THE FAMILY, UM, WAS ABLE TO GET THE PRELIMINARY PLATINUM ENDORSED BY THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES AND NOW IT IS READY FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION.
AND AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, THE HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF, UH, ON BARNABY LANE.
WHAT'S THAT? I CAN'T SEE, UH, RIGHT HERE.
THAT, THAT HOUSE NO, RIGHT ON, NO ONE DOWN DOWN.
UH, UH, UH, THAT IS, THAT IS, UH, WHERE MY DAUGHTER, UH, AND SON-IN-LAW HOUSE IS LOCATED IN THAT LOT.
I MENTIONED THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE HEARING AND I SAID, I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN, UH, RENDERING A OBJECTIVE DECISION.
AND, UH, AND SO I DID NOT REC RECUSE MYSELF.
THE APPLICANT DID NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
BUT BEFORE WE TAKE A FINAL VOTE, I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP AGAIN.
AND COINCIDENTALLY, MY HOME IS TWO TO THE LEFT OF THE GREEN SPACE AND MY NAME IS ON IT.
SO I'M IN THE SAME SITUATION AS WALTER.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY ISSUE EARLIER.
AND I HAVE NO, UM, ISSUE IN MAKING AN OBJECTIVE DETERMINATION HERE.
ALTHOUGH IF SOMEONE WANTS ME OUT, I'LL BE OUT.
WELL, I, I, I THINK THIS ONLY MEANS THAT THE TWO OF YOU ARE GONNA MAKE MORE EDUCATED VOTE.
UH, UH, THEY, AND IS THERE, IS THERE, UH, ANY COMMENT ON THIS APPLICATION BEFORE WE START A VOTING ON THE TREE REMOVAL ON THE FINAL SUBDIVISION? ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT? THEN I WILL ENTER, I, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UM, GRANT A TREE REMOVAL.
A I, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GRANT FINAL SUBDIVISION ON THIS PROPERTY.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? A SECOND.
SO, UH, THE DRAFT APPROVAL IS HAVE BEEN FINALIZED ON THE PB 1412.
UH, THE LAST DECISION WE HAVE IS ON PB 19 25, 25 HIGH POINT LENGTH.
COULD YOU INTRODUCE THAT TO THE PLANNING BOARD? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
UH, SO AGAIN, PV 1925, THAT'S THE GE SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 25 5 POINT LANE PO.
SCARSDALE IN THE R 21 FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING.
DISTRICT PLANNING BOARD WILL BE CONSIDERING A DECISION ON THE APPLICANT'S FINAL SUBDIVISION AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS INVOLVING THE SUBDIVISION OF TWO LOTS, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 77,959 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE INTO THREE BUILDABLE LOTS FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTING TWO NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, WHICH WILL BE ACCESSED BY A NEW CUL-DE-SAC ROADWAY OFF OF FIVE POINT LANE.
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL WAS GRANTED ON OCTOBER 7TH, 2020, FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT WAS RECEIVED.
AND OUR OFFICE HAS CONFIRMED THAT NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL WAS GRANTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD.
DRAFT DECISION HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THAT DRAFT DECISION.
AND HERE AGAIN, THIS IS A FINAL SUBDIVISION AND, UH, UH, WE HAVE CERTIFICATE, WE HAVE, UH, CERTIFICATION FROM THE DEPUTY, UH, SMITH THAT THERE IS NO CHANGE FROM THE PRELIMINARY TO THE FINAL SUBDIVISION.
SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO WAIVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DRAFT, UH, FINAL SUBDIVISION APPLICATION?
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THIS ONE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NO SPECIAL CONDITION THAT IS UNIQUE TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.UH, UH, IT ALL OF OUR, UH, REQUIREMENTS, UH, UH, MET BY, UH, IN THIS APPLICATION.
SO THERE'S NO PRESSURE PERMIT IN THE, IN THIS APPLICATION, SO I JUST WANT THAT'S, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
UM, THERE ARE A FEW CONDITIONS THAT MAYBE YOU WOULDN'T TYPICALLY SEE, UH, IN OTHER PROJECTS, BUT THESE ARE CARRYOVERS FROM THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION.
THEY HAVE NOT CHANGED WHATSOEVER, SO THEY WERE CARRIED OVER FROM, UH, THAT PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION BACK IN OCTOBER.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS APPLICATION, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, UH, TREAT PERMIT, UH, PERMIT DON MOVE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? AND, UH, AND, UH, UM, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FINAL SUBDIVISION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? WE HAVE TO VOTE.
WE JUST WANNA HAVE A VOTE ON THE TREE PERMIT FIRST.
WE JUST, I THINK WE HAD A MOTION.
SO, UH, DO WE HAVE A VOTE ON, UH, TREE PERMIT? AYE.
NOW WE HAVE A, NOW I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GRANT THE FINAL SUBDIVISION.
SO THE, THE FINAL SUBDIVISION FOR PB 1925 IS GRANTED OKAY.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL, UH, WE HAVE A, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC GO INTO A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 2026.
UH, COULD YOU, UH, UH, MAKE, WELL, WE DON'T, YEAH.
MAKE, I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW THE RULE.
UM, BEFORE DOING SO, UH, I JUST, AARON, IF YOU CAN JUST MAKE A, JUST A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT AGAIN ABOUT THE ZOOM MEETING IN CASE ANYONE WANTS TO OH, YEAH.
SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN TONIGHT'S PLANNING BOARD PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER PB 20 DASH 26 2 AND D AT THREE 40 SOUTH ELIA AVENUE, THE MEETING ID NUMBER IS 8 6 9 2 8 8 9 8 4 9 7.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE GETTING INTO THE MEETING AND YOU WANT TO PROVIDE COMMENTS, UM, IF THE BOARD WERE EVEN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, THERE WOULD BE AN OPEN WRITTEN RECORD PERIOD WHERE COMMENTS CAN BE ISSUED DIRECTLY TO MY OFFICE.
MY EMAIL IS A SCHMIDT AT GREENBERG NYT COM AND MY PHONE (914) 989-1534.
COULD YOU REPEAT THE ZOOM NUMBER AGAIN, BECAUSE THAT'S A LONG NUMBER? ABSOLUTELY.
SO THE MEETING ID NUMBER IS 8 6 9 2 8 8 9 8 4 9 7.
OKAY, SO I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FAITH OF THE MEET TONIGHT'S MEETING, UH, ASK DEPUTY MR.
JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD, THAT PLANNING BOARD MEMBER SAI IS NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
SO THE NEXT CASE AS CHAIRPERSON SIMON AND I HAVE MENTIONED IS PB 20 DASH 26 CO AND GH LOCATED AT 3 3 40 SOUTH DAILY AVENUE PO SCARSDALE.
IN THE R TEN ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT PROJECT INVOLVED THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY
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RESIDENCE WITH AN ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE, FRONT AND REAR STAIRWAY, A DECK AND, AND RETAINING WALL ALONG WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.THE PROJECT INVOLVES REGULATED STEEP SLOPE DISTURBANCE AND REGULATED TREE REMOVALS.
THIS PROPERTY BY A PRIOR OWNER.
APPLICANT KARSKI PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE UNDER CASE NUMBER PB 17 DASH 14 APPROVED DECEMBER 6TH, 2018.
AND WHICH HAS BEEN EXTENDED ONCE AND REMAINS VALID.
HIS CURRENT APPLICATION INCREASES THE AREA OF DISTURBANCE IN THE REAR YARD FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THIS BOARD.
THE APPLICANT LAST APPEARED BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AT ITS MARCH 3RD MEETING IN WORK SESSION.
THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH STAFF REGARDING ITS FREE REMOVAL PERMIT, APPLICATION, AND LANDSCAPING PROPOSAL FOR THIS SITE.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT THIS EVENING, THE DETAIL OF THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE.
I TURN IT OVER TO MS. SARKA LEFT PLEASE.
UM, I HAD PREPARED A SHORT PRESENTATION,
UM, THIS PRESENTATION WILL SUMMARIZE, UH, WHAT'S, UH, INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, IT'S, UM, ONE FAMILY, TWO STORY RESIDENCE AT THREE 40 SOUTH HILLY AVENUE.
AND, UH, PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UM, SOUTH OF, UM, I'M SORRY, NORTH OF, UH, INTERSECTION OF THOMAS DRIVE.
SOMETIMES IT'S POST STEPHANIE DRIVE, UH, AND SOUTH HILLY AVENUE, AND IT'S LOCATED IN OUR 10 RESIDENTIAL ZONING INDUSTRY.
FOR THE PROPERTY, FOR THIS PROPERTY, THE APPLICANT MUST SECURE THE FOLLOWING PERMITS FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG PLANNING DEPARTMENT BEFORE APPLYING FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT, STEEP SLOPES, PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
OTHER PERMITS ARE ALSO REQUIRED, HOWEVER, THOSE ARE NOT, UM, THEY ARE GOING TO BE ISSUED BY HER TOWN OF GREENBURG DEPARTMENTS.
THE PROPERTY IS, UH, HAS A RECTANGULAR SHAPE.
IT HAS, UH, NINE SHORT OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET AREA.
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ARE LOCATED ON THE SIDE ALONG THE SIDELINES, UH, PROPERTY LINES AND, UH, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS ADJACENT TO THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
WHY STEEP SLOPE PERMIT? BECAUSE THE PROPERTY CONTAINS SLOPES DEFINED AS STEEP, VERY STEEP, AND EXCESSIVELY STEEP, AND THE AREA EXCEEDS 500 SQUARE FEET.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK ON THE MAP, UM, THIS IS THE PROPERTY DISTURBANCE LIMIT LINE IS, UH, SHOWN HERE AS A HIDDEN LINE.
IT'S, UH, THE DISTURBANCE LINE UNDER THE CURRENT PROPOSAL, WHICH IS PB 2026.
UM, THERE ARE AREAS OF STEEP SLOPES INDICATED WITH THIS GREEN DOT AND SURROUNDING AREA, AREAS OF VARIOUS STEEP SLOPES WITH THE BLUE RECTANGLE AND A DIAMOND FOR EXCESSIVELY STEEP SLOPES.
WE CAN DIVIDE THE AREA, UH, PROPERTY INTO THREE DISTINGUISHED AREAS.
FRONT AREA, WHICH IS, UH, LEVEL MIDDLE AREA, WHICH IS WHERE ALL THE STEEP SLOPES ARE, UH, WE CONFINED.
AND, UH, BACK AREA WHERE, UM, AGAIN, A LEVEL PLATEAU EXISTS.
JUST, UM, THIS LINE, THE BLUE LINE INDICATES, UM, AS, UH, MR. SCHMIDT MENTIONED DISTURBANCE LIMIT LINE FOR THE, UH, ACTIVE PB 1714
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STEEP SLOPES AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.WHY TREE REMOVAL PERMIT? BECAUSE, UM, LATER WE'LL SEE THAT THE PROJECT REQUIRES REMOVAL OF 19 TREES, THIS DIAMETER OF SIX INCHES AND LARGER, AND THEREFORE THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS REQUIRED.
IT JUST NOTED THAT NO TREES WILL BE REMOVED PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.
SO THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY IS COVERED, UH, WITH INDIVIDUAL TREES.
THE, UH, MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY IS COVERED WITH, UM, DENSER COVERAGE, UH, CLUSTER OF TREES.
AND THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, AGAIN HAS INDIVIDUAL TREES.
THIS IS A PLAN WHICH SHOWS, UM, THE FREE PROTECTION AND FREE REMOVAL.
UH, BEFORE THE CONTRACTOR STARTS ANY WORK, THERE WILL BE A, UM, FREE PROTECTION PROTECTIONS ON, UM, DELINEATED BY CONSTRUCTION FENCE.
UM, THE TREES WE REMOVED ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE DISTURBANCE LINE, AND, UH, TREES TO REMAIN ARE OUTSIDE THE DISTURBANCE LIMIT LINE MOSTLY ON THE UPPER PLATEAU.
UM, AND THIS IS THE DISTURBANCE.
UM, AS MR. SCHMIDT MENTIONED, THE UM, UH, PROPERTY SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY WAS PREPARED IN 2017 BY
THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE PERMIT WAS SET TO DECEMBER 6TH, 2020.
THIS OPTION FOR THE PERMIT TO BE EXTENDED BY TWO ADDITIONAL YEARS.
AND, UM, IN NOVEMBER, 2020, THE PERMIT HOLDER, STATE OF MS. KARSKI MADE SUCH APPLICATION.
AND THE APPLICATION WAS THE EXTENSION WAS GRANTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD IN THEIR NOVEMBER, 2020 MEETING.
SO THE CURRENT EXPIRATION DATE OF THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT ON THAT APPLICATION, PB 1714 IS SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2022.
IN 2019, THE PROPERTY, UH, WAS SOLD TO MS. CO AND MR. G.
AND, UM, TODAY, UM, THE PROPERTY IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED WITH TWO STORIES, SINGLE FAMILY MODULAR RESIDENCE AND SUPPORTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE CONFIRMING TO THE ART AND ZONING AND, UM, IN VERY SIMILAR FASHION AS IT WAS UNDER THE PB 1714 APPLICATION.
THIS DRAWING REPRESENTS THE SITE PLAN.
UM, WE HAVE THE RESIDENCE LOCATED WITHIN THE, UM, WITHIN THE SETBACK LIMIT LINES.
UM, THE AREA OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA WAS ESTABLISHED BASED ON THE SUBTRACTION OF THE STEEP SLOPES, UH, AREAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMMON OF GREENBERG FORMULA FROM THE TOTAL LOT AREA.
WE, UM, WE HAVE A DRIVEWAY WHERE CURB CUT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE BUREAU OF HIGHWAY AND TRAFFIC, AS WELL AS THE ANY WORK, UH, THIS, UH, SOUTH LY AVENUE, WHICH INVOLVES, UH, CONNECTION OF THE UTILITIES TO OFFSET THE IMPACT FROM THE IMPERVIOUS AREA INCREASE.
UM, MAINLY USE THE ROOF AND THE DRIVEWAY.
WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, TWO INFILTRATION
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BASINS.UM, THE INFILTRATION BASINS ARE DESIGNED BASED ON THE FIELD TESTS, WHICH WERE CONDUCTED IN SEPTEMBER, 2020.
UM, RESULTS OF THE DEEP TESTS AND PERCOLATION INFILTRATION TESTS ARE SHOWN ON THE DRAWINGS.
UM, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITIES ARE DESIGNED TO, UM, SURE THAT THE PEAK FLOWS FROM THE PROPERTY WILL REMAIN AT OR BELOW THE LEVELS OF EXISTING PEAK FLOWS FROM STORMS UP TO 25 YEARS.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, THESE PRACTICES 'CAUSE THEY, UH, THEY INFILTRATE, UH, RATHER LARGER AMOUNT OF WATER DUE TO THE INFILTRATION RATE.
THE, THEY WILL ENSURE THAT THE WATER QUALITY VALUE IS GOING TO BE INFILTRATED FULLY INTO THE GROUND.
AND, UM, THE W THEN WE HAVE THE WATER SERVICE CONNECTION, WHICH HAS TO BE APPROVED BY WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT.
AND ALSO THE, UH, SANITARY SEWER CONNECTION, WHICH HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE SAME DEPARTMENT, WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT.
BESIDES THAT, THERE IS A DECK BEING PROPOSED BEHIND THE HOUSE AND STEPS FOR TO ACCESS THE BACK
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING A TREE WALL AT THIS LOCATION.
UM, IN SECTION THE, WE ARE LOOKING NORTH ON SOUTH HILLY AVENUE, SOUTH HILLY AVENUE, WE HAVE PROPERTY LINES, SORRY, UM, SETBACK LINES, FRONT YARD HERE.
UM, REAR YARD, EXISTING GRADE IS A GREEN LINE RUNNING, UM, PROPOSED GRADE.
AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A EXCAVATION FOR FOUNDATION FOOTING WALL.
WE HAVE FOUNDATION AND FOOTINGS, HOUSE DECK AND, UH, FRONT, FRONT STAIRS AND, UH, BACK STAIRS.
THE FRONT STAIRS WILL BE, UM, WILL NOT BE ENCLOSED.
SO THEY CAN BE WITHIN THE FRONT YARD.
SO THE BENEFIT OF TREES, WE ARE, TREES ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE PLANTED ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY WERE SELECTED BASED ON THE RECOMMENDED TREE IS CONSIDERATION WERE GIVEN TO THEIR LOCATION, SUITABILITY BASED ON THE SPACE THEY NEED.
AND BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS, UM, RATHER SMALL, WE HAVE LOTS OF, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF STORM WATER AND, UM, SO, AND THEY ARE EXISTING TREES, UH, WE SELECTED.
SO THESE ARE THE EXISTING TREES TO REMAIN MM-HMM.
THE CIRCLE AT PRESENT, UH, SOIL AREA, WHICH IS, UH, REQUIRED FOR THESE SMALL TREES BASED ON THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, UM, LIST.
AND THEN WE HAVE MEDIUM SIZED TREES, UH, WHICH, UH, AGAIN, THE CIRCULAR REPRESENTS THE AREA, WHICH IS, UH, NEEDED FOR TREES OF THAT SIZE.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, UTILITY LINES RUNNING ALONG SOUTH HILL AVENUE, SO PLANTING ANY LARGE TREES WOULD NOT BE REALLY SUITABLE IN THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE, UM, ELECTRIC LINES.
AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, NUMBER OF CREEPING JUNIPERS, WHICH, UM, WE ARE NOT INCLUDING IN THE COMPUTATION OR THE, WHEN WE COMPARE THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF THE TREES.
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AND BASICALLY THE SUMMARIZES, WHICH I JUST SAID.UM, SO WE ARE CONFIRMING TO THE TOWN OF GREENBERG REQUIREMENT THAT 30% OF TODAY'S BENEFITS OF THE TREES TO BE REMOVED, VOLUME OF STORMWATER INTERCEPTION IN GALLONS AND AMOUNT OF C O TWO ATION IN POUNDS WERE COMPARED WITH THE BENEFITS OF THE NEW TREES IN THE MATURITY.
AND BASED ON THAT EVALUATION, WE ARE JUST, UM, BELOW, UH, I'M SORRY, WE ARE SLIGHTLY EXCEEDING THE CURRENT CONDITIONS.
30% IS SET BY THE FACT THAT THIS IS A, UH, EXISTING VACANT PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPED.
AND JUST VERY QUICKLY TO COMPARE THE, UM, THE CURRENT, UH, SEVEN, THE APPLICATION 1714, WE HAVE THE PROPERTY LINE, THE HOUSE THAT WAS PREPARED.
THIS, THIS DRAWING WAS PREPARED BY MR. PETTI NUMBER OF RETAINING CALLS.
UM, AND THIS, THIS LINE REPRESENT, UM, DISTURBANCE LIMIT LINE OR THAT APPLICATION OR ANY AREA IN THIS DIRECTION FROM THE BLUE LINE IS THE AREA OF DISTURBANCE ON THIS.
IN THIS CASE, UH, WHEN WE SUPERIMPOSED OUR PROPOSED PLAN, WE HAVE A HOUSE ON DECK AND STAIRS AND A TREE WALL AND THE DISTURBANCE LINE UNDER THIS APPLICATION PB 2026.
SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, UH, DISTURBANCE LIMIT LINES ARE WE ARE INCREASING THE AREA IN THIS LOCATION WHILE WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, MAINTAIN THE, OR NOT DISTURB AS MUCH THE EXISTING WE ARE EXISTING, THERE ARE EXISTING, UH, WALLS ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WHICH CROSS INTO THE PROPERTY UNDER THE UNDER CONSIDERATION.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO MINIMIZE DISTURBANCE TO THESE WALLS AND JUST, UH, FOLLOW THERE, THERE WILL BE SOME SHORTENING OF THE WALL, BUT, UH, THEY WOULD NOT BE TOTALLY REMOVED.
UM, AND THIS ZONING TABLE JUST, UM, SUMMARIZES THE, WHAT WE WERE JUST, UH, REVIEWING AND IT IS INCLUDED IN THE FIRST DRAWING.
ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
I, WE, UH, GAVE A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION AT, UH, UH, THE WORK SESSION.
SO IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, UH, DEPUTY SMIT, IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? YES, THERE ARE.
AND B AND BEFORE WE GET TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH TOWN STAFF SINCE THE WORK SESSION TO SLIGHTLY MODIFY ITS LANDSCAPING PROPOSAL IN ORDER TO ELIMINATE THE NEED TO INCLUDE THE CREEPING JUNIPERS AND ITS CALCULATIONS TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NEW TOWN TREE ORDINANCE.
AND SO, UM, THAT HAS BEEN FOUND ACCEPTABLE AND THE APPLICANT'S GONNA BE MAKING ITS FOLLOW-UP SUBMISSION SOMETIME FOLLOWING TONIGHT'S MEETING.
SO WE DO HAVE, UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE DO HAVE A FEW FOLKS THAT WISH TO SPEAK.
UM, HEY, WE DO SEE, EXCUSE ME, DID WE DO SEEKER ON THIS? NO.
SO FOR SEEKER, UM, WE WOULD DO THAT AHEAD OF THE DECISION BEING THAT IT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION.
WE WOULD DO IT, UM, PROBABLY AT THE NEXT FOLLOWING MEETING.
SIMILAR TO HOW WE DID SEEKER ON THE OTHER PROJECT TONIGHT BEFORE ISSUING THE DECISION.
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UM, GETTING BACK TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE JULIETTE BARNES, UH, ON THIS EVENING.UM, WE APPRECIATE BEING INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION.
UM, WE HAD JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS.
UH, WE WONDERED WHEN IT WAS LIKELY THAT THE CONSTRUCTION, UM, OR EXCAVATION WOULD BEGIN.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU ASK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN HAVE THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ASK AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME BACK TO ANSWER.
UM, WE HAD, WE HAD FOUR QUESTIONS.
ONE IS WHEN IS IT GOING TO BEGIN? AND, UH, WHAT HOURS WOULD THE CONSTRUCTION BE HAPPENING DURING, UH, SINCE WE'RE, WE'RE NEXT DOOR, WE'RE AT THREE 30 SOUTH HEALY.
UM, AND WOULD THERE BE AN INVOLVED IN THE EX EXCAVATION? WOULD THERE BE BLASTING, UH, NECESSARY TO GET THROUGH BEDROCK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM, AND THEN FINALLY THERE WAS, THERE'S A ROW OF HEDGES ON OUR, UM, BORDER WITH THAT PROPERTY THAT PROVIDES QUITE A BIT OF PRIVACY AND IS BEAUTIFUL FORIA HEDGE.
AND WE WERE WONDERING IF IT COULD BE POSSIBLE TO PROTECT THAT, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, EXCAVATION FOR TREES AND DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING.
YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE CONSTRUCTION GOES RIGHT UP TO THAT HEDGE FROM THE DRAWING.
UH, PARTICULARLY THE DRAINAGE BASINS.
LOOKS LIKE THEY'LL BE DIGGING WHERE THE ROOTS OF OUR HEDGE ARE.
SO, UM, I WAS WONDERING IF, UH, THERE COULD BE ANY ACCOMMODATIONS MADE TO PROTECT THAT HEDGE? UM, I, I'M NOT SURE OF YOUR NAME.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MR. BARNES OR SOMEONE.
UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A, UH, IT'S CAN YOU JUST, UH, I IDENTIFY YOUR NAME, SIR? OH, MY NAME IS BOB KADING.
CAN YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME? K A E D I N G.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? THAT'S IT FROM JULIETTE, BARNES AND BOBCAT.
SO THE NEXT SPEAKER I SEE IS MR. BOIN.
UH, SINCE WE HAVE SPOKEN LAST, IT HAS BECOME EVIDENT THAT GLOBAL WARRING, UH, IS UPON US.
AND, UH, I QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN SELECTED HAVE BEEN SELECTED WITH THE IDEA THAT WHAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST WAS APPROPRIATE FOR A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT.
UH, I GUESS THIS GOES TO BOTH THE, UH, CURRENT APPLICATION AND TO ALL FU FUTURE APPLICATIONS.
AS THE GREENBERG TREE ORDINANCE BEEN UPDATED TO RECOGNIZE THAT DIFFERENT TREES ARE NEEDED NOW THAN WERE CONSIDERED ADEQUATE A YEAR AGO.
UM, THIS IS A CONSIDERING ONGOING TRANSFORMATION FROM AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS NOT IMPAIRED BY GLOBAL WARMING TO ONE THAT IS SERIOUSLY IMPAIRED BY GLOBAL WARMING.
AS AN EXAMPLE, GENERAL MOTORS ANNOUNCED TWO WEEKS AGO THAT ALL THEIR CARS WITHIN FIVE YEARS WILL BE ELECTRIC CARS AND THEY NOT, WILL NOT IN MANUFACTURE ANYMORE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES.
VOLKSWAGEN THE SAME TOYOTA IS GONNA BE LESS THAN THE DUST BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SAID SO THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE AND I WILL BRING IT UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN SO THAT THE CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES THAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST MAY HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE FOR A PAST GENERATION, BUT WE'RE MOVING INTO A WORLD WHERE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT.
THIS IS A VERSE THAT I WILL SPEAK ON EVERY APPLICATION THAT INVOLVES THE USE OF CONCRETE AND THE USE OF MR VOTING.
MR. SIMON, YOU CANNOT INTERRUPT ME.
YOU'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND I WILL NOT PERMIT IT.
I HAVE MR. SIMON, YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO INTERRUPT.
LISTEN, THE QUESTION YOU ASKED YOUR QUESTION, I
THAT'S A VALID QUESTION AND WE WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION NOW.
DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? MR. FRA FRANCIS SHEEN DID THE SAME THING TO ME AT ANOTHER MEETING.
YOU CANNOT TELL ME HOW TO PROTECT WHAT TO SAY AT A PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS NOT ASKING YOU TO ASK YOUR QUESTION AND WE WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION THAT YOU WISH TO BE ADDRESSED, WE WILL ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION.
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YOU ASK THE QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT IT IS A PROPER SELECTION OF TREES, WHICH IS A VALID QUESTION AND THAT QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED.DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TO ASK WALTER? WALTER? LEMME SAY ONCE.
MR. BODINE WALTER'S JOB AS CHAIR IS TO CONTROL THIS MEETING, WHICH INCLUDES THE PUBLIC SESSION.
IF SOMEBODY'S OUT OF ORDER, IT'S HIS JOB TO BRING IT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION.
MR. BODINE, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG.
NOW, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, MR. BODE? IF NOT, THEN UH, I WILL ASK THE DEPUTY SCHMIDT TO RESPOND TO THAT AND WHETHER OR NOT THE CURRENT TREE LORD, WHICH WAS, UH, JUST ADOPTED AND PUT INTO PLACE JANUARY THE, THE FIRST OF THIS YEAR.
DOES IT ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT MR. BODEN RAISED? YES, AND IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO THANK YOU CHAIRPERSON SIMON, AND THANK YOU MR. BODEN.
UM, THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE NEW TOWN TREE ORDINANCE IS THAT WE HAVE, UM, A REPLACEMENT PLANT LIST THAT IS EVER EVOLVING AND WORKING WITH OUR NEW PART-TIMER IN THE OFFICE, MR. HOGAR, WE HAVE BEEN UPDATING THE LIST TO TAKE OFF SPECIES THAT ARE NO LONGER SUITABLE, UM, AND ADD SPECIES THAT ARE BECOMING MORE SUITABLE IN THIS AREA DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND GLOBAL WARMING.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION AND, UH, I'M HAPPY THE QUESTION WAS ASKED SO THAT I'M ABLE TO ANSWER IT, BUT WE ARE COGNIZANT OF THAT AND, UM, WE ARE ADDRESSING IT.
MR. BODEN, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, THIS IS A CAN I, CAN I FINISH? I ASKED YOU A QUESTION.
DID DID WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, YOU'RE FREE TO ASK THE SECOND QUESTION, BUT MY QUESTION NOW, HAVE YOUR ANSWERED, DID WE RESPOND ADEQUATELY TO YOUR QUESTION? YES, MY QUESTION WAS ADEQUATELY ANSWERED.
NO, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE ARE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK.
I KNOW THERE WAS ONE OTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT HAD ASKED FOR THE LINK, WHICH I DID FORWARD ALONG.
I'M NOT SURE IF HE OR SHE ARE ON THE MEETING THIS EVENING, BUT NOW WOULD BE THE TIME IF ANYONE ELSE WISHED TO SPEAK ON THIS PROJECT.
IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, THEN I'LL TURN IT BACK TO, UH, UH, IS THAT CORRECT? SPELL, UH, PRONUNCIATION OF YOUR NAME? UH, LEFT.
LES, PLEASE RESPOND TO THE, THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED REGARDING THE HEDGES ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY AND WHETHER OR NOT IN THE APPLICA IN THE INSTALLATION OF YOUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
WHAT PROTECTION WILL YOU BE, UH, UH, HOW DO YOU PROTECT THOSE STREETS? SO, UM, THE HEDGES ARE THE PROPERTY HERE AND THE POST SYSTEM IS VERY SHALLOW BECAUSE, UH, DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF GROUNDWATER AND WE NEED TO MAINTAIN, UM, SEPARATION BETWEEN GROUNDWATER AND BOTTOM OF THE INFILTRATION BASIN.
SO THE, THIS IS THE LINE WHICH IS, UM, ADJACENT YOUR PROPERTY.
SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE EXCAVATION IS, UH, PROBABLY, PROBABLY A FOOT INTO THE EXISTING GROUND.
THIS, UH, HIDDEN LINE SHOWS THE EXISTING GRADE AND, UH, THERE WILL BE ADDIT ADDITIONAL, ACTUALLY SOME GROUND ADDED ABOVE IT.
SO THE EXCAVATION IS NOT GOING TO BE FOUR FEET DEEP OR THREE FEET DEEP.
SO IT SHOULD NOT BE IMPACTING THE UM, THE, UM, ROOTS, UH, THAT IT'LL IMPACT SOME, SOME ROOTS WHICH ARE COMING ONTO THE PROPERTY ON THE SURFACE, BUT IT'LL NOT BE DEEP EXCAVATION.
THE UNITS ARE ONLY LIKE 12 INCHES DEEP, THE CALTECH UNITS.
UH, UH, THIS IS, THAT'S THE REASON WHY, UM, WE'D NEED THIS
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LARGE AREA FOR THE CALTECH SYSTEM BECAUSE WE CANNOT GO DEEP INTO GROUND.UM, I ASKED DEPUTY SCHMIDT WHO'S, UH, WHO'S, UH, UH, AN ARBORIST, UH, HAVE YOU TAKEN A, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? THAT THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT, IT WILL NOT AFFECT THOSE TREES? UM, SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL NOT BE IMPACTED.
UM, THEY WERE INDICATED TO BE FORSYTHIAS, WHICH ARE, UH, MORE OF A, A HEDGE THAN IT, THAN A LARGER GROWING TREE.
WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, AND IF, IF WE CAN SEE IT ON, PERHAPS IT'S ON A DIFFERENT PLAN OR PERHAPS IT IS ON THIS PLAN AND, AND I'M JUST NOT ABLE TO SEE IT, BUT, UM, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO PUT A BARRIER OF, UM, SILT FENCE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF BARRIER BETWEEN THAT AREA OF WORK AND THE BUSHES SO THAT EQUIPMENT DOESN'T INADVERTENTLY GO TOO CLOSE TO THE BUSHES AND, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY DAMAGE THEM.
I THINK HAVING A PHYSICAL BARRIER THERE WOULD PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING AND, AND BE AN IMPROVEMENT IF IT'S NOT ALREADY PROPOSED.
THIS IS THE LINE OF THE SILT FENCE JUST RIGHT.
THE ISSUE THOUGH, THE ISSUE IS NOT ABOVE GROUND, THOUGH.
THE ISSUE, THE ISSUE THAT, THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS BELOW GROUND.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW, HOW THE ROOT SYSTEM ON THAT PARTICULAR HEDGE, UH, TYPICALLY SPREADS, AND IS THERE A WAY WE CAN PROTECT THE ROOT SYSTEM? SO TYPICALLY ON A SHRUB, IT'S GONNA BE A MUCH SMALLER ROOT SYSTEM THAN LARGE TREES.
I THINK IF, UM, OUT IN THE FIELD WE CAN PULL IN THAT SILT FENCE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE DONE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
THE SILT FENCE GETS SLIGHTLY DUG INTO THE GROUND, UM, SO THAT IT'S THERE AND ACTUALLY ACTS AS A PHYSICAL BUFFER FROM MACHINERY RUNNING OVER, UM, ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND POTENTIALLY IMPACTING THE ROOT SYSTEMS OF THOSE SHRUBS.
SO I THINK THAT CAN BE DONE FURTHER.
UM, AS YOU MOVE, UM, FURTHER INTO THE PROPERTY, I SEE ON THE PLAN THAT THERE IS A FORM OF A, A STONE WALL, WHETHER IT'S A STONE RUBBLE WALL, UM, AND THAT WILL AFFORD SOME PROTECTION AS WELL, BUT THERE WOULD CERTAINLY BE FENCING INSTALLED INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO GO BEYOND.
I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FOR, YOU KNOW, THIS SEEMS, SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A VERY MATURE EDGE THAT DOES PROVIDE A LOT OF PRIVACY, AND I THINK ALL STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN TO PROTECT IT.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO MOVE THE CALEX A FEW FEET FURTHER AWAY FROM THAT LINE SO THAT WE, TO ENSURE THE PROTECTION OF THOSE HEDGES? YES.
THIS IS, UM, THE DRIVEWAY IS DRAINING ONTO THE, UM, ALONG THE SHOULDER, YOU KNOW, RUN FROM THE DRIVEWAY.
THERE'S A HIGH POINT AND, UH, BASICALLY OVERLAND DRAINING TO THIS SIDE.
AND, UM, I DID HAVE SOME INTERCEPTING, UH, AREA, BUT WE CAN MOVE THE, UH, CALTECH CLOSER TO THE DRIVEWAY THAT WILL INCREASE THIS, UH, SEPARATION FURTHER.
UM, I JUST, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE TO THE BENEFIT YEAH.
OF BOTH THE NEIGHBOR AS WELL AS THE PERSON WHO BUYS THAT HOUSE IF, BECAUSE IT DOES PROVIDE GOOD, GOOD DIVISION.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, WITH DOING THAT, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PULL THE, THE SILL FENCE IN YES.
A FEW FEET ACROSS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT PROPERTY LINE? RIGHT.
WE TO PROTECT THE, THE HEDGES? YEAH.
THE, AND, UH, NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A JAPANESE MAPLE PROPOSED CLOSE TO THE EDGE THERE.
WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT JAPANESE MAPLES.
UM, BUT ALSO, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER RISK TO THE WALL ON THE HEDGE WOULD JUST BE THAT DIGGING OUT FOR THAT TREE.
BUT MAYBE THAT'S NOT AS BIG A CONSIDERATION AS, YOU KNOW, THE DRAINAGE WE MOVE THE, UH, DRAINAGE LINE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AREA AND PER THE, UM, THE TREE REQUIREMENTS REQUIRES CERTAIN AREA.
THAT'S WHY, UM, WELL, THE, THE ISSUE SUCH MAY NOT BE WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH A, THE NEW TREE AND DIGGING
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IT.THE ISSUE IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE ROOT SYSTEM OF A JAPANESE MAPLE, AARON, YOU KNOW THAT BETTER THAN, THAN I DO FOR SURE.
UM, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT LONG TERM THOSE ROOT SYSTEMS GOING INTO THE ROOT SYSTEM OF THE HEDGES.
AND I DON'T ENVISION THAT BEING A CONFLICT.
THE SPECIES WOULD BE, UH, THEY CAN WORK WITH ONE ANOTHER AND THERE, THERE WILL BE PLENTY, PLENTY OF AREA.
THE APPLICANT, MS. LEFT, HAVE PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT PROVIDES AMPLE SPACE FOR THAT ROOT SYSTEM TO GROW AND, UM, TO COEXIST WITH THE EXISTING SPECIES.
WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS TRY TO CALCULATE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH, I'M GONNA CALL IT A BUFFER ZONE FOR A SECOND.
YOU NEED FROM THE HEDGE ONTO THIS PROPERTY AND MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF, OF, UH, THE APPROVAL.
THAT'S WHAT I WELL, CAN BE WHAT CERTAINLY THE BOARD CAN DO THAT.
UM, I, UM, I THINK WITH A REVISED PLAN COMING IN, WHICH SHOWS THE RELOCATION OF THE CHAMBERS AND THE SILT FENCE BEING BUMPED IN THAT PLAN IF IT WERE APPROVED, WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, A COMPONENT OF THE APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.
I THINK, I THINK THIS IS A BIG ENOUGH ISSUE.
AND IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT, IT'S AN IMPORTANT FE LANDSCAPING FEATURE.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT WOULD, DOES NOT HURT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SAY THAT IT CA THAT THERE COULD BE NO CONSTRUCTION WITHIN BLANK FEET OF, OF THAT HEDGE.
AND THAT, THAT WILL BE, BE MARKED DURING CONSTRUCTION WITH A SELF FENCE.
I THINK THAT MAY GIVE, UM, MS. BARN, BARNES AND HER PARTNER THERE, A, A, A, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT.
AND, AND ESPECIALLY SINCE MR. BLUFF SAID THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD EASILY BE ACCOMMODATED MM-HMM.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO REASON NOT WHY NOT TO DO IT.
SO THIS IS, SO THIS IS WHERE I JUMP IN A LITTLE BIT.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS SORT OF ADDRESSES WHAT THE CHAIRPERSON SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
UH, WHILE WE THINK THAT IT IS, UM, THAT IT, THERE IS NO EFFECT ON THIS, WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO CHECK THIS, UH, OUT WITH OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS INNOCUOUS TO US, WE'RE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE.
SO WE WANNA BE CERTAIN, UH, ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY, UH, WE MADE THAT STATEMENT EARLIER, BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T, THIS WHILE SEEMINGLY INNOCUOUS, UH, CHANGE BY MOVING, UH, SOMETHING JUST A FEW FEET MAY ACTUALLY, UM, WELL CERTAINLY SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY ENGINEERING AND
BUT IT AL ALSO, WE SHOULD CONFIRM WITH AN ARBORIST TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF BUFFER ZONE YOU'RE AT YOU NEED WITH, WITH A HEDGE LIKE THAT, THAT SHOULD BE, SOMEBODY SHOULD KNOW PRETTY MUCH HOW THOSE THINGS SPREAD, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO I WOULD SAY, UM, MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET OFF THE BASE OF THE HEDGE.
AND, AND DAVID, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND BECAUSE, UH, UH, HOW, UH, OF EXCELLENT THAT WE DECIDED, AND ALONG WITH THE APPLICANT, THAT TO MOVE THAT, AND NOW WE HAVE TO GIVE, UH, UM, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ENOUGH TIME TO EVALUATE THAT.
SO, UM, LASTING WAS THE NEXT QUESTION, WALTER, I BELIEVE YES.
BEFORE, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO, UM, UH, MS. LEAF, WHO'S REPRESENTING THE OWNER HAS ALREADY TO MOVE THE, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY AGREED TO MOVE THE CALTECH, RIGHT? AARON MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT AT LEAST FIVE WORTH OF BUFFER WAS NECESSARY.
BUT WE ARE STILL GOING TO CHECK WITH OUR ENGINEERS BEFORE WE, UH, MAKE A DECISION.
WELL, WHICH IS WHAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING.
WHERE ARE WE GIVEN THE ENGINEERS ENOUGH TIME? BECAUSE WHEN YOU MOVE BACK TO CALTECH, IT MIGHT AFFECT, UH, THIS, UH, THE PREVIOUS SURFACE, OR IT MIGHT BE A SIMPLE THING, BUT WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT, UH, OUR, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AGREES WITH AND SAY, THERE'S, THERE'S NO ISSUE HERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE, IT'S JUST A REALITY CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE GIVING OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT SUFFICIENT TIME TO
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OPINE ON.AND I CAN GIVE YOU, I CAN GIVE ONE QUICK EXAMPLE.
FOR INSTANCE, UM, UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE UNITS MUST BE A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM STRUCTURES.
SO IF, FOR INSTANCE, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS CAN YOU MOVE THEM BACK AND CLOSER TO THE HOUSE, THAT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, WOULD BE, UH, BE ABLE TO BE APPROVED BY THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING.
AND IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IDENTIFIED, THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING WOULD COME BACK TO US AND SAY, HEY, THEY NEED TO MEET A MINIMUM 10 FOOT REQUIREMENT, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
AND THEN WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD.
SO THOSE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO GIVE THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT.
AND WE WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT ONCE THE REVISED PLAN COMES IN.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST, UM, SAY THAT, UM, THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING IS MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY DO NOT VIEW THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN TILL THE STEEP SLOPE APPLICATION AND THE TREE REMOVAL APPLICATIONS ARE, UM, EXECUTED.
AND, UH, I KNOW THAT THEY RECEIVED THESE FUNDS AND THEY DID RECEIVE THE STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN.
HOWEVER, THERE WERE NO COMMENTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DIDN'T COMMENT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMMENT OR THEY DIDN'T COMMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE WAITING FOR THE TREE REMOVAL AND SCOPES APPLICATIONS.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T APPROVE THIS WITHOUT THE ENGINEER BLESSING IT FIRST MS. LEFT.
SO WHAT WE DO, SO WHAT WE DO IS THEY, THEY WON'T PROCESS THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CONTROL PERMIT THAT YOU'LL ULTIMATELY NEED AND THAT YOU WOULD ONLY GET AFTER A DECISION BY THE PLANNING BOARD.
HOWEVER, WE CIRCULATE THESE PLANS TO THE TOWN ENGINEER'S OFFICE SO THAT HE CAN LOOK AT THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND DRAINAGE SYSTEM PRELIMINARILY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS CODE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AND THAT IS WHAT HE'S DONE IN THIS INSTANCE.
BY SHIFTING IT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE'S STILL COMFORTABLE WITH THE LAYOUT AND THE DESIGN.
UH, AND, AND, UM, UH, WE, WE COULD, UH, WE COULD, WE COULD CLOSE THE, UH, THE PUBLIC, UH, HEARING AND KEEP THE, BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE WEEKS NOW BEFORE THE NEXT AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? MARCH THE 31ST? MARCH 31ST.
UM, BUT BEFORE WE CONSIDER THAT CHAIRPERSON, SIMON, I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE ROCK REMOVAL ON THE WAY.
I'M NOT, I'M JUST, I'M TRYING, JUST TRYING TO THINK IN MY MIND HOW WE CAN DO THIS.
I THINK TWO WEEKS WOULD BE TWO WEEKS IN IF THE APPLICANT CAN TURN AROUND THE REVISED PLAN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME, LET'S SAY BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, I WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT WITH THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING BY THE END OF THE WEEK OR BY THE LATEST, THE EARLY THE FOLLOWING WEEK, WELL, WITHIN THE WRITTEN RECORD PERIOD TIME, SO THAT WE CAN POST THOSE PLANS ON THE WEBSITE AND THE EVENT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO VIEW THEM AND OR POSSIBLY ISSUE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WITHIN THE OPEN WRITTEN RECORD PERIOD.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S, THAT'S A METHOD THAT WE COULD USE TO ADDRESS, UH, UH, THE ISSUE OF THOSE THREE.
BUT THE OTHER QUESTION THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAD WAS ONE OF CHIPPING AND BLASTING.
SO CAN YOU WELL CHIPPING AND GLASS, UH, BLASTING AND WHEN YOU ESTIMATE, YOU'LL START THE PROJECT AND THE HOURS.
AND, UM, AS FAR AS THE START DATE, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DEPENDENT WHEN THE BUILDING PERMIT IS GOING TO BE ISSUED.
AND, UH, I AM NOT SURE HOW LONG AFTER THAT, BUT I CAN IMAGINE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, KIND OF STARTING DATE.
MAY, MAY I ASK, UH, UH, UH, AS YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D HEAR WHEN WE, WHEN PEOPLE CAME AND ASKED FOR EXTENSION, BUT THE, THE ISSUE IS, UH, IS REALLY PROVIDING YOU GET ALL THE APPROVALS AND EVERYTHING IN PLACE.
WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE STARTING, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR? I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT IT LEAVES MR. SHE IS ON THE, UM, IN THE MEETING.
MAYBE HE CAN ANSWER THAT HE HEARS ME.
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DOES THE OWNER INTEND TO MOVE
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QUICKLY FOLLOWING ANY DECISION BY THE PLANNING BOARD? YES.DOES DOES HE OR SHE ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, TR UH, TRANSITIONING INTO THE BUILDING PERMIT PHASE SHORTLY FOLLOWING THE PLANNING BOARD DECISION? I BELIEVE THE ANSWER ANSWER'S YES, BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UM, START TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND I HAD ADVISED THE OWNER THAT, YOU KNOW, TREE CLEARING WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE PLANNING BOARD IS ISSUED A DECISION AND A SITE INSPECTION'S CONDUCTED, AND A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING IS HELD.
SO I THINK THEY ARE EAGER TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE AS SOON AS THEY'RE ABLE.
SO, SO THE OTHER THEN, UH, THE REMAINING QUESTION IS ONE OF CHIPPING AND BLASTING.
UM, I AM TRYING TO FIND WHERE THAT NOTE IS.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NOTES RIGHT NOW.
THERE IS NO BLASTING BEING ANTICIPATED.
AND IF, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT HOPEFULLY THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, UH, CASE I ASKED THE APPLICANT AND THEY ARE NOT CONTEMPLATING ANY BLASTING.
UH, AND IF THEY WOULD HAVE TO, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE TONGUE WITH THE APPLICATION FOR BLASTING PLAN.
UH, BUT RIGHT NOW, NO BLASTING BE HELPFUL THAT WE HAVE A PRETTY, UH, UH, RIGID BLASTING AND CHIP, UH, CODE IN THE TOWN.
IF YOU CAN, UH, SEND A COPY OF THAT TO THE NEIGHBORS SO THEY CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S REQUIRED, SHOULD, UH, THEY HAVE CHIP IN AND BLASTING.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY, UH, THE BEST WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A PRETTY RIGOROUS, UH, CODE.
SO IF YOU COULD GIVE THAT TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT MIGHT ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO.
SO THANK YOU
WE CAN, WE CAN TELL YOU BY THE WAY THAT, UH, WITHIN THE LAST, UH, YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, THE TOWN HAS UP UPGRADED ITS, UH, BLASTING AND CHIPPING CODE, UH, PROVIDED ADDITIONAL SAFE, UH, SAFETY.
AND, I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY WORST CASE SCENARIO.
UM, EVERYTHING HAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF INSURANCE.
FORTUNATELY, WE'VE NEVER COME CLOSE TO HAVING ANY SITUATIONS IN WHICH THE INSURANCE IS CALLED UPON.
BUT IF THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE PEACE OF MIND, UH, I'D HAPPY, UH, WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? ME? UH, YES, SIR.
UM, THIS IS THE TOWN OF GREENBERG PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
THIS IS, UH, JOE RAZZO WITH WESTCHESTER MODULAR HOMES.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER THE, UH, TIME OF DAY WE'D BE WORKING AND THE, UH, UH, THE ROCK CHIPPING, IF THAT'S OKAY? YEAH.
JOE, CAN YOU JUST SPELL YOUR NAME PLEASE? YOUR LAST F AS IN FRANK.
AND, UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUSH, WE PUSH THE HOUSE FORWARD ENOUGH WHERE WE WE'RE HOPING TO MISS THE ROCK.
WE WON'T BLAST AT ALL, SO WE WON'T BE DOING ANY BLASTING.
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA ADHERE TO ANY TOWN REGULATIONS AS FAR AS, UH, CHIPPING AND, AND HAMMERING.
UH, WE'RE HOPING NOT TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
AND TO THE LEAST EXTENT AS FAR AS THE INTERRUPTION, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORS, UH, MODULAR CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE, OF THE, UH, OF THE CONSTRUCTION COMES TO THE, TO THE FOUNDATION 80% COMPLETE.
SO BY THE TIME, WHEN IS THE FIRST DAY, IT'LL BE COMPLETE AND SITTING ON THE FOUNDATION, AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A LOT OF HAMMERING GOING ON FOR MONTHS ON END.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA START ANY EARLIER THAN WHATEVER.
THE REGULATIONS AT GREENBERG ARE EIGHT IN THE MORNING, AND WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY BE OUTTA THERE BY FOUR OR FIVE IN THE AFTERNOON.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME, UH, WORKING EITHER.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS? IF NOT, I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN TO MARCH 31ST, SECOND, AND IT'S ANTICIPATED BY THEN.
WE WILL HAVE, UH, INPUT FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND WE WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO
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MAKE A DETERMINATION AT, UH, UH, APRIL.WHAT'S THAT? THE SEVENTH? WHAT'S THAT? APRIL 7TH MEETING.
UH, WELL THAT'S THE LAST THING ON OUR AGENDA, BUT BEFORE, UH, OKAY.
NO, WE JUST CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING ON, ON, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT.
DON'T WE NEED TO CLOSE THIS? WE'RE GOING ABOUT, NOW WE'RE GOING BACK INTO, UH, UM, UH, WORK SESSION.
SO WE GO BACK INTO WORK SESSION AND WE HAVE, UH, ONE ITEM OF, UH, LEFT.
SIMON INDICATED THE FINAL AGENDA ITEM IS CASE NUMBER PB 2025.
CORREA LOCATED AT FIVE TERRAMAR WAY P O A PLAINS IN THE R TEN ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT PROJECT INVOLVES THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.
THE PROJECT INVOLVES REGULATED STEEP SLOPE DISTURBANCE, AND REGULATED TREE REMOVALS.
PROJECT SITE PREVIOUSLY CONTAINED A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, WHICH WAS DEMOLISHED IN 2017 BY THE TOWN.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING CURB CUT FOR THE DRIVEWAY TO THE NEW RESIDENCE.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, MR. OLI, IS HERE THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE.
OKAY, TURN IT OVER TO YOU, GREG.
UH, DO YOU SEE MY SCREEN? YES.
NEED A MICROSCOPE? YEAH, I'LL BE ZOOMING IN.
UM, SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS ON, UH, FIVE
UH, THE LOT IS 10,200 SQUARE FEET APPROXIMATELY.
I'M GONNA PULL
UH, LET'S PULL UP THE, UH, SO IT, THE LOT IS IN AN R 10 ZONE.
UM, IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT AND AS AARON, UH, HAD MENTIONED BRIEFLY, UH, THERE WAS AN EXISTING HOME ON THE LOT, UH, PRIOR TO IT BEING VACANT, WHICH WAS DEMOLISHED IN 2017.
UM, AND, UH, THE, THE PROPO NOW WE ARE PROPOSING A NEW RESIDENCE AT THE HOME.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE A, A MODULAR HOME BY WESTCHESTER MODULAR.
UH, THE, THE HOUSE AS PROPOSED IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH, WITH ALL ZONING CODES.
UH, SO, SO THERE WILL BE NO REQUEST FOR VARIANCES OR, UM, OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
UH, THE LOT DISTURBANCE IS ABOUT 9,800 SQUARE FEET IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE DISTURBED.
SO MUCH OF THE LOT DOES NEED TO BE DISTURBED IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT IT.
UH, WE DID SUBMIT A WETLANDS CLEARANCE FORM, AN ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE FORM.
UH, BOTH, WELL, THE WETLANDS CLEARANCE WAS APPROVED, UM, STEEP SLOPE, UH, WAS DENIED, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE.
UH, AND, UH, YEAH, THE STEEP SLOPE NOW THAT I MENTIONED IT, SORRY, A LOT OF SHEETS IN THE MIDDLE HERE.
IT'S, UH, SO THE LOT DOES HAVE, UH, SOME STEEP SLOPES.
WE HAVE, UH, THE TOTALS ARE ABOUT 3,390 SQUARE FEET, UH, AT 15 TO 20%, UM, 2,500 SQUARE FEET AT 25 TO 35%, AND THEN 452 SQUARE FEET AT 35%.
UH, SO OUR GROSS AREA WAS REDUCED TO A NET LOT AREA OF, UH, 8,065 SQUARE FEET WITH THE DEDUCT WITH THE, UH,
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DEDUCTIONS.AND, UH, THE NET LOT AREA WAS USED IN ALL CALCULATIONS FOR THE PROPOSED HOME.
UM, THERE ARE TWO EASEMENTS, UH, IN THE LOT THAT WE'RE CONCERNED OF THE, THE TOWN WHICH WE, UH, THAT OUR BEST TO AVOID.
SO, UH, THE HOUSE IS SITUATED SO THAT, UH, WELL, THERE WAS NO OTHER WAY TO BRING THE HOUSE ABOVE STREET LEVEL TO PITCH WATER AWAY.
SO THE DRIVEWAY, YOU, YOU PULL INTO THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN IT, IT IS SLIPPED TOWARDS THE HOUSE, BUT WE HAVE A SLOT IN HERE TO CAPTURE DRAINAGE.
UM, THE PROPOSED FOOTPRINT IS WITHIN OUR SETBACKS.
WE HAVE A PROPOSED DECK IN THE REAR, UH, THAT YOU COME DOWNSTAIRS, AND THEN, UM, YOU CAN ENTER THE, THE, THIS IS OUR REAR YARD HERE, RIGHT? THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THE REAR YARD IS, YEAH, SURE.
UH, THIS IS THE REAR YARD AREA HERE FOR THE HOME.
UM, WE DO HAVE A PROPOSED RETAINING WALL AS WELL THAT RUNS ALONG THE, THE BACK PROPERTY LINE.
IT'S FOUR FEET TALL ON THE REAR END ALONG THIS BACKSIDE.
AND THE WALL GOES TO ZERO ALONG, UH, THE WEST, THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, THAT'S JUST TO CREATE A, A, A USABLE YARD BECAUSE THE, THE LOT DOES SLOPE FROM TERRAMAR WAY TOWARDS THE REAR, UH, TO GO BACK TO, UH, TO THESE EASEMENTS.
UH, THE TOWN HAD ASKED US TO, UH, LOCATE THE UTILITIES WITHIN THE EASEMENTS, BUT THERE WERE NO VISIBLE MANHOLES OR, UM, OR, OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD ALLUDE TO A LOCATION OF THE EXACT, UH, MEANS.
BUT WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, A NOTE AND SPECIFICATIONS THAT THE CONTRACTORS TO WORK WITH D P W AND MAKE SURE THAT HE DOES LOCATE THESE UTILITIES PRIOR TO PERFORMING ANY CONSTRUCTION, EVEN THOUGH, UH, THE ONLY EXCAVATION IN THE VICINITY OF THEM IS, OR THE COLEX.
BUT, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO FILL IN THE REAR IN ORDER TO BACKFILL THIS WALL.
SO, UH, THE CHANCES OF, OF EVEN HITTING THE OBSTRUCTION ARE VERY, I MEAN, THE, THE UTILITIES ARE VERY SLIM, BUT, UH, EITHER WAY IT'S TO BE LOCATED PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION EVEN STARTS.
UM, IN REGARDS TO, UH, CUTS AND FILLS, UH, THE PROPERTY IS ONLY GONNA REQUIRE ABOUT 30 YARDS OF FILL BECAUSE, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE, IT, IT REQUIRES EXCAVATION, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THIS FRONT HALF.
AND MOST OF THE, THE FILL THAT IS GONNA BE USED IN THE REAR YARD WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE HOUSE EXCAVATION, LEAVING ONLY ABOUT 30 CUBIC YARDS LEFT TO ACTUALLY IMPORT.
SO WHEN THEY DIG TO THE FOUNDATION, THEY'LL JUST BE TAKING THE, THE FILL GENERATED FROM THIS, THIS PORTION OF THE EXCAVATION AND PUSHING IT DOWN AFTER THE RETAINING WALL'S CONSTRUCTION IN ORDER TO, TO BACKFILL THAT AREA.
UM, WE DID, UH, DO OUR DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS.
WE RAN SOME, UH, DEEP IN PREPARATION TESTS, UM, AND, UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, WATER AVAILABLE ON THE STREET.
WE HAVE SEWER IN THE REAR, WHICH WE PLAN ON TYING INTO AND, UH, UM, OH, AND LANDSCAPING.
SO, UM, WE DID GO THROUGH, UH, UH, THE LAND, THE, WE DO HAVE SOME TREAT REMOVALS ON THE LOT WE'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE, UH, A TOTAL OF 12 TREES.
UM, AND, AND MOST OF IT IS SIMPLY JUST DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, IS REGRADING.
SO SINCE WE'RE REGRADING, IT DOES REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF THESE TREES.
UH, OTHERWISE WE WOULD'VE CONSERVED THEM.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, BUT WE DO HAVE AN EXTENSIVE PLANTING PLAN TO, UH, TO CON TO, TO COMPENSATE FOR THE REMOVALS.
UM, THE, THE TREE CODE REQUIRED US TO RUN CALCULATIONS ON, UH, I HAVE IT HERE ON THE EXISTING, UH, STORM, THE, THE EXISTING AMOUNT OF
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WATER AND THAT THE, THE TREES ABSORBED AS IS, AND THE AMOUNT OF C O TWO THAT THE TREES EXISTING REMOVED FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.AND THEN IT REQUIRES YOU TO PLANT, UH, TREES THAT ARE EQUIVALENT TO 90% OF THE STORM WATER AND C O TWO THAT THE EXISTING TREES EITHER ABSORBED AND REMOVED FROM THE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH I THINK IS ACTUALLY GREAT.
SO WE, WE DID HAVE A PLAN THAT, THAT MEETS THAT CRITERIA AND REPLACES THE, YOU KNOW, THE TREES THAT WE ARE REMOVING, UM, TO, TO, ITS EXISTING WITHIN 90% OF ITS EXISTING CAPACITY TO ABSORB STORMWATER AND REMOVE C O TWO FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, HERE'S OUR, OUR, UH, LANDSCAPING LAYOUT HERE.
UH, SO WE HAVE SOME PLANTINGS PROPOSED ALONG THE TOP OF THE WALL, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, SOME SCREENING FOR THE, FROM THE NEIGHBORS ON THIS SIDE.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME EXISTING TREES HERE TO HELP WITH SCREENING ON, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE, THE, UH, THE BASIC INFORMATION ON THIS PROJECT FOR NOW DROPPING OFF AGAIN.
ANY QUESTIONS? OH, I SAID THAT THAT'S, UH, THE BASIC INFORMATION ON THIS PROJECT FOR NOW.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM.
I DID HAVE, UH, ANY MEMBERS OF THE, UH, BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, IN REGARDS TO THIS APPLICATION? YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THE PRE REMOVAL AND SUBSEQUENT REPLACEMENT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE NEW TOWN ORDINANCES, OR IF THIS APPLICATION SUBMITTED PREVIOUSLY THAT IT DID NOT HAVE TO, UH, TAKE CONSIDERATION.
SO THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL IS REQUIRED TO MEET THE NEW LAW, AND IT CERTAINLY DOES.
I'VE REVIEWED IT, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, OUR NEW PART-TIME INDIVIDUAL, UH, ARBORIST, BEN HOLGER.
WE'VE BOTH TAKEN A LOOK AT IT AND THE PROJECT AS DESIGNED MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NEW ORDINANCE, ALSO MEETS THE DIVERSITY STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE.
UM, AND THAT WAS A COMMENT THAT WE HAD, UM, BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE APPLICANT.
SO THEY, THEY ACCOMMODATED FOR THAT.
UM, SO IT IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW CODE.
I DID HAVE A QUESTION IF THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHERS FROM THE BOARD.
HOW DOES THE, THE SCREEN OF THIS LOT COMPARES TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, UH, THE SCREEN, YOU SAID THE SCREENING.
WHAT, WHAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO YOU? WHAT YOU KNOW IS, UH, IS, I KNOW THAT THAT WHOLE PROPERTY IS ON A SORT OF SLOPE.
SO HOW DOES THIS, UH, THE FOOTPRINT OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PROPERTY COMPARE WITH THE FOOTPRINT OF YOUR, THE NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE OR THOSE NEIGHBORS HIGHER OR LOWER THAN YOUR, THAN THAT, THAN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? UH, ARE THEY, I UNDERSTAND, YES.
ON YOUR NEIGHBOR'S SIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, OR IS IT VACANT ON YOUR, UH, ON THE PROPERTY, ON YOUR NEIGHBOR'S? DO THEY HAVE TREES OR IS THAT, OR IS THEIR PROPERTY, UH, VACANT IN TERMS OF THEIR RIGHT.
UM, THE, I'M GONNA, UH, I'M TRYING TO AT LEAST, UH, SHARE MY OTHER SCREEN.
I JUST PULLED UP THE, UH, THE NEIGHBOR'S, OH, HERE WE GO.
THIS PROPERTY IS TOO FAR FROM WHERE I LIVE.
ACTUALLY, THE HOUSE NEXT TO IT IS LOWER.
THE HOUSE, IF YOU'RE FACING THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT IS LOWER THE HILL, NOT, IT, NOT ONLY, UM, DECLINES FROM STREET LEVEL DOWN, BUT IT ALSO GOES FROM KIND OF FROM LEFT TO THE RIGHT, UH, ALSO DOWN.
SO THIS PROPERTY WILL ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE HOUSE.
THAT'S, DO YOU SEE THIS? DO YOU SEE THIS, UH, DO YOU SEE THIS SCREEN? UH, YEAH, WE CAN SEE IT.
SO THIS IS THE, THE PROPOSED LOT, UH, SORRY, I MOVED DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS THE, THE LOT THAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE HOUSE TO THE LEFT IS SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN, UH, OUR LOT.
AND THEN THE HOUSE TO THE RIGHT IS ABOUT EQUAL TO OUR LOT.
SO THE HOUSE IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME, THE SAME
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FIRST FLOOR ELEVATION AS THIS NEIGHBOR ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.UH, ARE THOSE TREES PART OF YOUR PROPERTY OR THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY? THESE ARE ON OUR PROPERTY.
THERE'S, UH, I COULD SHOW YOU.
THERE'S, UH, ABOUT THREE, I BELIEVE OVER HERE.
UM, I SHARED BACK MY OTHER SCREEN.
YEAH, THERE, THERE ARE A FEW TREES AND AS, AS GREG MOVES OVER TO THE PLAN, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S, MOST OF THEM DO HAVE TO BE REMOVED, UH, FOR GRADING AND DISTURBANCE PURPOSES.
UH, SOME OF THE PINE TREES THAT ARE THERE ARE RATHER LARGE AND LU OVER THE PROPERTY AND DON'T APPEAR TO BE IN THE GREATEST CONDITION.
UM, I THINK ONLY ONE OF THEM ACTUALLY PROVIDES ANY TRUE SCREENING, OTHERWISE THE LOWER BRANCHES ARE NOT PRESENT.
AND THERE'S JUST, UM, TALL TREES WITH A BRANCHING STRUCTURE, MAINLY AT THE TOP.
I DO BELIEVE THERE'S AN OAK TREE IN THERE THAT, UM, WE LOOKED AT ALSO WHILE WE WERE ON THE SITE VISIT.
UH, DO YOU SEE THIS SCREEN AGAIN? MY TREE REMOVAL PLAN? UM, YEAH.
SO THIS IS THE, UH, THAT OAK TREE AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN WE HAVE A 38 INCH MAPLE, AND THEN THE PINE, RIGHT.
WHICH, WHICH ARE THE REMOVALS ARE MAINLY DUE TO, UM, EITHER SAFETY CONCERN BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS GONNA BE HERE AND THEN IT SLOPES THIS WAY, SO FALLING THAT WAY, OR THEY WERE JUST, UH, REGRADING OR REGRADING IN THE AREA.
AND IT DOESN'T, IT WOULDN'T SURVIVE OUR, OUR GRADES.
UH, I, I FULLY RECOGNIZE IN ORDER TO BUILD A HOUSE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE OUT SOME TREES.
UH, I, UM, SO MY FOCUS IS ON, UH, THE REPLACEMENT, YOU KNOW, AND HOW WILL THE REPLACEMENT AFFECT YOUR NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE? RIGHT.
UM, SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I MEAN, UH, THE CODE REALLY REQUIRED US TO, WHICH I THINK IS ACTUALLY THE, ONE OF THE HIGHEST EXTENTS THAT YOU REALLY CAN CONSIDER IS, IS THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THESE TREES ARE ABSORBING.
NUMBER ONE, SCREENING AND C O TWO REMOVAL FROM OUR ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE KNOW WE COVERED THAT ASPECT OF IT AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE REPLACING IS SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO COMPENSATE WHAT HAD EXISTED PRE, PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION IN REGARDS TO SCREENING.
UM, WE DID HAVE, WE DO HAVE A DEI, A DECIDUOUS PROPOSED IN THE FRONT HERE TO REPLACE, I GUESS THAT THE 28 INCH OAK.
I KNOW THERE WERE THREE MORE THERE.
UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT THESE TREES ALONG THE REAR ARE, UH, ARE BEING PLANTED FOR, YOU KNOW, IN REPLACEMENT OF THE OTHER REMOVALS.
SO, I MEAN, WE DID OUR BEST TO, TO MAINTAIN SCREENING SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD STILL HAVE THEIR PRIVACY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, AND KEEP THE ENVIRONMENT IN MIND.
AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, STAFF LOOKED AT THE TREE REMOVAL AND THE LANDSCAPING AS WELL, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.
AND THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE HAS MADE A GOOD ATTEMPT TO, UM, REPLACE LANDSCAPING AND THE APPROXIMATE VICINITIES OF WHERE SOME OF THE TREES ARE COMING OUT, UM, PARTICULARLY IN THE REAR AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
UM, I DID HAVE A ONE OTHER QUESTION IF THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHERS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? NO.
UM, MY QUESTION RELATES TO THE RETAINING WALL.
WILL THE FACE OF THE RETAINING WALL BE FACING INTO YOUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY OR FACING OUT TO THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY? SO THE FACE OF THE RETAINING WALL WILL BE FACING OUT TOWARDS, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY LINE, SO TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
SO, UM, IT DIDN'T TAKE, I'M SORRY, THE GRADE WOULD DROP OFF BEHIND OR TO THE REAR OF THE SITE, IT WOULD DROP DOWN FOUR FEET, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO, SO IT'S TWO 16 AT THE TOP OF THE WALL IN OUR BACKYARD, AND THEN IT'S TWO 12 AT THE BOTTOM OF THE WALL, UH, FURTHEST FROM OUR PROPERTY.
THAT'S ALONG THIS PACKAGE, RIGHT? I SAID, AND THAT'S ALONG THIS
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PACKAGE.AND THEN IT COMES TO ZERO AS IT, IT TAPERS DOWN ON THE SIDES.
SO MY, MY TWO QUESTIONS ARE, DO YOU HAVE A DETAIL FOR THE STYLE OF WALL SO THE BOARD CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF ITS VISUAL APPEARANCE TO THE NEIGHBOR? AND THEN TWO, UM, DO YOU INTEND TO PUT A FENCE, UH, ALONG OR ON TOP OF ANY PORTION OF THE WALL TO PREVENT, YOU KNOW, A CHILD FROM FALLING OFF A FOUR FOOT, YOU KNOW, LEDGE ESSENTIALLY? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
I THINK THAT, UH, A FENCE AT THE TOP OF THE WALL IS, IS DEFINITELY REQUIRED, UH, NO MATTER WHAT.
I THINK, UH, THE BUILDER ACTUALLY EVEN PLANNED ON DOING THAT.
UM, AND THE STYLE OF THE WALL IS GONNA BE A STONE, A STONE WALL WITH, UH, WITH NOT GROUT, NO GROUTED JOINTS, BUT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A DRY LAID STONED WALL.
I CAN GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF IT IF YOU'D LIKE.
YEAH, IF YOU CAN SEND THAT INTO THE BOARD AHEAD OF THE HEARING, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I CAN DO THAT AND, AND I CAN SHOW A NIGHT, UH, WHAT FENCE YOU PLAN ON DOING.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS APPLICATION FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? IF NOT, I WILL THEN SCHEDULE IT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, UH, FOR THE, WHAT'S THAT, APRIL 4TH, I THINK.
SEVENTH APRIL 7TH ON NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.
AND BY THEN WE WOULD ANTICIPATE GETTING A PICTURE OF, UH, THE, THE WALL AND A PICTURE OF THE TYPE OF FENCE YOU ANTICIPATE PUTTING ON TOP OF THE WALL, SO, OKAY.
SO STAFF WILL PREPARE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE AND THE PUBLIC HEARING SIGN.
WE WILL PROVIDE IT TO THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER, AND WE WILL PROVIDE IT TO YOU ALONG WITH INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE MAILING AND THE POSTING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING SIGN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, UH, BEFORE WE CLOSE, OH, WE'RE FINE.
THIS IS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE MEETING, I JUST WANT GIVE THE BOARD A QUICK UPDATE ON, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING ON TWO ISSUES, THE
WE, WE ARE MEETING EVERY WEEK.
WE, WE ARE TRYING TO OUR BEST TO MEET A, A SCHEDULE OF PROPOSING A, A LAW, UH, TO THE TOWN.
I THINK IT'S THE FIRST WEEK IN APRIL, WE HAVE MET WITH CORN EDISON.
UH, UH, UH, WE HAD, UM, UH, WE MET WITH ERDA, THE, UH, THE STATE AGENCY, AND WE, IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, UH, DRAFTING, UM, THE LAW, UH, BEFORE WE COULD DO THAT, WE WILL HAVE, UH, A MEETING WITH, UH, WITH THE CONSULTANT TO MAKE SURE, UH, WHAT WE ARE DRAFTING, WE ARE COVERING OUR BASIS AND, UH, AND WE'RE NOT OVERLOOKING ANYTHING, BUT, SO WE, UH, WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO MEET THAT SCHEDULE.
UH, THE SECOND APPLICATION, THE SECOND MEETING WITH THE Z B A TAKES PLACE.
UH, UH, WALTER, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT? YES.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES, I TAKE IT.
RIGHT? UM, LOOK, I, I, I REALLY APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS AND I UNDERSTAND ALL THE WORK YOU'RE PUTTING INTO IT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE ISSUE OF BATTERY STORAGE, WHERE THEY SHOULD BE PLACED, HOW IT SHOULD BE PRICED, YOU KNOW, WHEN AND IF IT SHOULD BE CONNECTED, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S A STATEWIDE ISSUE.
AND, AND, AND, AND I GIVE YOU ALL THE CREDIT FOR, YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO IT ON BEHALF OF GREENBERG, BUT THERE ARE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, 200 JURISDICTIONS IN NEW YORK STATE.
UM, DOESN'T NEW YORK STATE HAVE AN INTEREST IN DRAFTING SOME KIND OF EITHER A, HE ALREADY DID MICHAEL, WHAT THEY DID THAT ABSOLUTELY.
REGULATIONS OR, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, MIKE, IS THEY DRAFTED A GENERIC LAW AND WITH THE APP, WITH THE, WITH THE INTENT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THE BASIC INFORMATION GATHERING.
AND THEY, THEY GIVE, THEY HAVE GIVEN IT TO ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES WITH THE CLEAR UNDERSTANDING,
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THIS IS A, A DRAFT, A A, AND THEN YOU TAKE THAT AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FINE TUNE IT TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITIES.YOU DON'T WANT THIS BEING JUST A, A, A GENERIC
BUT YOU DO NOT WANT THIS BEING A GENERIC LAW.
AND THE REASON YOU DON'T IS THERE ARE ISSUES REGARDING, FOR INSTANCE, SAFETY IS A BIG ISSUE.
IN TERMS OF THESE FIRES, IF YOU GET A FIRE AT ONE OF THESE THINGS, THEY CAN, THEY LAST FOR OVER 24 HOURS.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS JUST LET THAT THING BURN.
OKAY? YOU NEED SPECIAL, SPECIAL EQUIPMENT.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE IS, ARE, ARE OUR FIRE, ARE OUR FIRE DISTRICTS, UH, EVEN CAPABLE OF BEING TRAINED AND HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO DEAL WITH THESE? IT'S, WE'RE NOT THE NEW YORK CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO THOSE ARE WHY WE HAVE THE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE MEETING WITH THE SAFETY CONSULTANTS AND WHERE YOU PLACE THEM IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF, OF THESE KINDS OF ISSUES, WHICH IS WHY, AGAIN, SOME OF THESE ARE GONNA BE FOUR TIMES, FIVE TIMES THE SIZE OF THE ONE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED CURRENTLY AT NORWOOD.
SO, WALTER, WALTER ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
IT'S A MODEL LAW WHICH YOU USE AS A BASIS FOR YOUR OWN, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALLY TAILORED LEGISLATION.
BUT IT'S VERY MUCH A SKELETON LAW.
IT REALLY DOES NOT, IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF PLACEMENT WITHIN A COMMUNITY AT ALL.
BUT I THINK WE, BUT I THINK WE ANSWERED MICHAEL QUESTION AS TO WHY, UH, A A APPARENTLY, UH, UH, MICHAEL HAD THE CONCERN, WHICH IS A VERY VALID CONCERN, THAT IT IS SUCH A BIG PROJECT THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO.
SO I COULD ASSURE YOU, MICHAEL, STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO, WE'RE USING A, YOU KNOW, UH, A GENERIC, UH, UH, UH, NEW YORK STATE DID ALL THE BASIC WORK AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TEMPLATE TUNING IT TO GREENBERG.
THEY'VE GIVEN US A TEMPLATE TO WORK WITH.
AND THEN THE, THE OTHER ISSUE IS, UM, TOMORROW WE WILL, UH, ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, I GAVE YOU THE, THE, THE LETTER WE GOT FROM THE, THE, THE ZONING BOARD.
THEY HAD A QUESTION OF, OF THE TIMING, UH, WHEN WE WERE OFFICIALLY NOTICED AND WHEN THAT TIME SLOT COULD START.
SO WE WILL BE, UH, UH, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, LAID OUT THE WHOLE TIMELINE, SO HE'LL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THAT.
AND THE OTHER ISSUE WAS WHAT IS THE EFFECT ON THE TOWN? AND I'LL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THAT, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WAS RAISED BY THE APPLICANT'S LETTER.
SO BASICALLY THAT'S THE GENERAL OUTLINE OF WHAT WE PLAN TO DO TO TOMORROW NIGHT.
YES, MA, WHEN CAN WE ANTICIPATE THE Z B A RENDERING A DECISION? I DOUBT IT'LL BE TOMORROW NIGHT.
THIS IS A PRETTY COMPLEX ISSUE.
UM, IT COULD BE TOMORROW NIGHT, MOST LIKELY.
I THINK IT'D BE THE NEXT MEETING.
NONETHELESS, SOMEONE LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING UP THAT FEEL THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS A PLANNING BOARD, THAT I WOULD POINT OUT THAT, UH, EVEN AFTER WE, UH, UH, GET A LAW ON BATTERY STORAGE, THE NEXT ISSUE THAT'S GONNA COME ABOUT IS, UH, CHARGING STATION FOR CARS.
UH, VOLVO JUST SAID THAT BY UH, NINE YEARS, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH ELECTRIC CARS.
THEY'RE ALL DOING IT, AND THEY'RE ALL BY, YOU KNOW ABOUT, THEY FORGOT ONE THING THOUGH.
YOU NEED TO HAVE THE POWER TO POWER THOSE CHARGING STATIONS.
AND INSTEAD, AND WE'RE GETTING RID OF NUCLEAR POWER, WE'RE GETTING RID OF FOSSIL FUEL.
SO WHERE ARE WE GETTING THE POWER, THE ADDITIONAL POWER NECESSARY TO, TO, TO CHARGE THESE CARS? WELL, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A COMMITTEE TO WORK ON POWER, UH, CHARGING STATION, BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEXT ISSUE.
BECAUSE YEAH, WE NEED, IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY BEEN AN ISSUE, ACTUALLY.
I MEAN, TAKE A LOOK FOR THE BOARD HERE.
TAKE
WHAT, WHAT MY, WHAT I PLAN TO DO AS SOON AS WE PUT
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THIS ISSUE OF THE BATTERY STORAGE TO TO BED IS THAT, UH, WE SHOULD, UH, BE APPROACHING THE TOWN BOARD ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER A, UH, A COMMITTEE WITH, YOU KNOW, A REPRESENTATION FROM, DEFINITELY FROM THE PLANNING BOARD TO COME UP AND LOOK AT THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF BATTERY STORAGE STATION.WELL, THERE ARE TWO OTHER ISSUES, WALTER, THAT ARE RELATED TO BATTERY STORAGE.
UM, AND WHEN YOU GET INTO BATTERY STORAGE, YOU REALIZE IT'S NOT ONE THING.
AND SAME THING WITH CHARGING STATIONS.
CHARGING STATIONS, SOME OF THEM ARE GONNA BE COMMERCIAL, LIKE A GAS STATION.
SOME OF THEM ARE GONNA BE COURTESY PLACES LIKE AT YOUR PLACE OF WORK.
THE OTHER TWO BIG ISSUES THAT REALLY NEED TO BE DEALT WITH ARE SOLAR AND WIND.
UM, WE DO HAVE PLACES WITHIN GREENBURG, PARTICULARLY THE GOLF COURSES, YOU KNOW, WE, AND WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THE GOLF COURSES ARE HURTING MOST OF THEM RIGHT NOW.
UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAINTAIN THE GOLF COURSES, BUT THE, WE DO HAVE ENOUGH LARGE SPACE WHERE SOME OF THE SOLAR PANELS COULD BE PUT, SOLAR FIELDS COULD BE PUT IN, OR WIND FARMS COULD BE PUT IN.
WE ALSO NEED TO ADDRESS THEM EVEN ON RESIDENCES, THE WHOLE, AND, AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BATTERY STORAGE, BY THE WAY, WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, 20 MEGAWATT UNIT, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT OKAY, UP TO WHAT SIZE? SHOULD IT JUST BE A, A, A PERMIT FROM THE BUILDING INSPECTOR? YEAH.
THAT NOBODY GETS INVOLVED UP TO.
WHAT SIZE IS THAT? SO WE'RE TRYING TO, TO SEPARATE THAT OUT.
WAL WALTER, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, AT SEVEN 15 WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT DEBATING ALL OF THE VARIOUS ISSUES RELATING TO BATTERY STORAGE AND CHARGING STATIONS.
FRANKLY, I'D LIKE TO GO TO WATCH TV.
SO I KNOW, WALTER, YOU WANTED TO BRING US UP TO DATE ON THESE TWO ISSUES, WHICH I APPRECIATE.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE SHOULD BE BROUGHT DATE ON? I JUST WANTED TO KEEP THE BOARD IN THE LOOP.
I WASN'T, IT'S NOT AN INTENT TO HAVE A LONG DISCUSSION ON IT THIS EVENING, BUT TO KEEP YOU
UH, BUT ONE OTHER THING, MICHAEL CAN GO WATCH JEOPARDY IF YOU'D LIKE.
WELL, THAT'S THE PROBLEM, MICHAEL.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD WATCH JEOPARDY.
UM, SERIOUSLY, THE, THE ONE OTHER THING IS I BELIEVE THE TOWN BOARD IS WORKING ON A DECISION ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
SO THEY SHOULD BE VERY, THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO A DECISION ON THAT.
UM, FROM YOUR LIPS TO GOD'S EARS,
WITH THAT SAID, THANK EVERYONE.
FILL TO MARYANNE FOR ME, MICHAEL.
HIS BOAT IS STILL SHRINK WRAPPED.