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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AGENDA MEETING TO BE HELD VIA ZOOM-ENABLED VIDEO CONFERENCE THURSDAY, April 8, 2021 – 6:30 P.M. ]
YOU TO CONTINUE TO TAKE THE MINUTES JUST TILL WE GET THE PEOPLE APPOINTED, IF YOU DON'T MIND.HAVE, HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY OF YOU SET UP FOR UH, UH, I HAVE EMAILED THE, UM, GEORGE, JUDITH.
WHAT'S, HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE HER LAST NAME? JUDITH BEVILLE? NO, THE OTHER ONE.
JU I NEVER CAN THINK OF HOW TO PRONOUNCE EK.
I'VE SENT HER THEIR RESUMES AND, UH, SO SHE SAID SHE WOULD BE SETTING THEM UP FOR INTERVIEWS.
HAS ANYONE HEARD FROM NANCY? UH, LIZ, HAVE YOU HEARD? YEAH, I'M ALL SET NEXT TUESDAY.
WHAT? LIZ, I'M HERE TO SAY IT.
THIS, UM, MY INTERVIEW IS THIS TU COMING TUESDAY.
I THINK THEY SAID I HAVE TO CHECK SIX OR SIX 30.
UH, MINE IS ALSO THAT DATE, AND I ALSO HAVE TO CHECK THE TIME.
SO THAT MEANS, UH, UH, THEY HAVE A BOARD MEETING WHO'S THE, I THINK THEY HAVE A MEETING.
TUESDAY WOULD BE A WORK SESSION.
UH, UH, THEY CAN, THEY, CAN THEY VOTE? CAN THEY VOTE ON THE, UH, DURING A WORK SESSION? OR DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE A A, A FULL MEETING? I THINK THEY HAVE TO DO IT AT THE PUBLIC MEETING, BUT THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC MEETING THE NEXT NIGHT, THE PUBLIC MEETINGS IS THE 14TH.
SO, SO IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL BY THE NEXT MEETING, YOU MIGHT BE OFFICIAL
BUT GIVEN, GIVEN THE WAY THINGS HAPPEN IN THE TOWN, JUST IT WILL HAPPEN.
IT JUST MAY NOT HAPPEN WITH THE SPEED.
I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE SPEED.
YOU GOT YOUR INTERVIEWS SCHEDULED, TO BE VERY HONEST.
I MEAN, THIS IS
SO I HOPE GEORGE HAS HIS INTERVIEW ALSO.
WELL, SINCE WE HAVE A WHOLE GROUP HERE, I THINK THE NEXT THING IS, ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 25TH MEETING? NO.
COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO PASS THOSE MARGARET? SO, MOVES SECOND.
MIKE, YOU WANNA SECOND IT? SECOND.
SO THE NEXT THING UP WOULD BE OUR APPLICANT FOR TONIGHT.
ARE THEY AVAILABLE? AARON, YOU ARE ON MUTE.
AARON, I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN.
ARE THE APPLICANTS AVAILABLE? UH, I AM IN THE PROCESS OF CALLING AND TEXTING.
SO, UH, THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS SECOND, SO I WOULD SUGGEST
AND, UM, WHEN THEY COME, THEY'LL HAVE TO, THEY'LL HAVE TO EITHER STOP OR THEY'LL HAVE TO WAIT TILL WE FINISH SOMETHING.
BUT AARON, BEFORE YOU GO AWAY, AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS NOT GO UNNOTICED.
AARON HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR APPLICATION TO AR ARBITRARIES OF AMERICA.
I'M NOT, FOR NOT DOING IT RIGHT.
BUT HE, WE ARE ONE OF THE TWO MUNICIPALITIES IN NEW YORK STATE THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED AS TREE CITIES AND WE WANT AWESOME CLAP FOR AARON.
IT'S, IT'S THROUGH THE ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION.
IT'S A PROGRAM KNOWN AS TREE CITIES OF THE WORLD.
IT'S SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO TREE CITY, U S A, WHICH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS ONE.
UM, FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS, UH, THE TREE CITIES OF THE WORLD PROGRAM IS, AS I SAID, SIMILAR.
IT WAS SOMETHING I BECAME AWARE OF.
I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN TO FILE AND, AND BE RECOGNIZED.
UM, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS COMMITTED TO TREES AND, AND TREE PLANTING, YOURSELVES INCLUDED.
AND, UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH THE EFFORT.
AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THE TOWN WAS NAMED AS ONE FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW IN A ROW ALONG WITH NEW YORK CITY AS THE ONLY TWO IN NEW YORK STATE.
AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE 38 IN THE ENTIRE US AND ABOUT 120 WORLDWIDE.
SO THAT'S, WOW, AARON, THAT'S AWESOME.
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FOR YOU.WHAT CAN WE DO, UH, AARON TO, UH, GET THIS PUBLICIZED? OH, WELL I KNOW PAUL, PAUL, UM, I SENT HIM A LITTLE WRITEUP AND AND THAT'S WHAT WENT OUT.
I ACTUALLY HAVE THE APPLICANT CALLING.
UM, PARDON ME JUST FOR A MOMENT.
BOY, IS THAT NICE? THAT'S SO NICE.
WE ARE NOW, WE'RE NOT JUST TREE CITY U S A, WE'RE A TREE CITY OF THE WORLD.
I SAW PAUL POSTED IT IN PATCH AND I READ ABOUT A THING OR TWO WHERE MARY IN PATCH, IT'S ONE OF THESE LOCAL THINGS ON THE INTERNET PATCH.
IS THAT WHITE PLAINS PATCH? NO, I GOT THE RIVER TOWNS AND, UH, LOUIS, ROCHELLE, IF YOU CLICK AT THE BOTTOM OF PATCH, IT'LL GIVE YOU A WHOLE LIST OF STUFF THAT YOU DON'T SEE ON THE EMAIL.
AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS MORE NEWS.
IS IT, IS IT ON THE WEBSITE? THE TOWN WEBSITE? NO.
WELL, I THINK ALL PAUL'S OLD POSTINGS ARE ON THE WEBSITE.
FRANK, UH, MIKE, THEY JUST KEEP A, THEY JUST RUN LIKE THEY KEEP ACCUMULATING ON THE WEBSITE.
SO, MR. ESCALADES WAS JUST CALLING TO MAKE SURE HE HAD THE RIGHT LOGIN INFORMATION FOR THE MEETING.
UH, UH, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.
LET JUST START MY VIDEO THERE.
VERY, I WORE BLACK SHIRT SO THAT MY WHITE HAIR CONTRAST WITH THE BLACK.
THANK YOU FOR BEING AVAILABLE FOLKS.
UH,
YOU GUYS DON'T SEE ALL THE RUNNING AROUND.
HE DOES FOR US, BUT, UH, HE'S A GREAT HELP.
SO WE HAVE AN APPLICATION YOU'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT FOR 25 BAYBERRY ROAD.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JUST BRIEFLY WALK THROUGH THE APPLICATION OKAY.
I THINK YOU'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.
YOU'RE SEEM LIKE A FAMILIAR FACE.
UH, IT, IT'S A IN, IN A WAY IS QUITE SIMPLE TO VISUALIZE FROM AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE.
WHAT YOU HAVE IS AN EXISTING RECTANGULAR SHAPE, UH, OVER WHICH WE WILL BE ADDING, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HOUSE.
BUT AS PART OF THAT IMPROVEMENT TO THAT RECTANGLE, THE FRONT OF THE RECTANGLE IS GOING TO BE ADDED WITH A PORCH, A FANCY PORCH, SO THAT THE, THE WHOLE APPEARANCE OF THE HOUSE BECOMES MORE OF A TRADITIONAL HOUSE WITH A PORCH.
THE PORCH, UH, A RIGHT SIDE CORNER IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OR THE WETLANDS BUFFER, IN FACT THAT THE, THE HOUSE, THE ENTIRE HOUSE IS WITHIN THE BUFFER OF THIS VERY, UH, AND I DIDN'T SEE IT UNTIL AARON POINTED IT OUT TO ME.
THERE IS A, A, IT, IT'S NOT A PERENNIAL BROOK, BUT IT, IT SOMETIMES IT HAS FLOW FROM LOCAL GROUNDWATER AND IT'S MAINLY A LOW POINT BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES THAT RUNS FROM THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THE HOUSE IS MOSTLY IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND IT'S WITHIN, I WOULD SAY, 60 TO 80 FEET FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE BROOK.
SO, UH, UH, THE, WE ARE WELL WITHIN THE BUFFER ZONE AND THE AMOUNT OF EXCAVATION WON'T EVEN, UH, EXCEED TWO CUBIC YARDS, WHICH IS REALLY LIKE TWO BUCKETS, UH, FROM A BIG BACKHOE.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO POUR A CONCRETE SLAB AND BUILD UPON THAT, BUILD A PORCH UPON THAT AS PART.
AND, AND, AND THE OTHER DISTURBANCE, THE OTHER ELEMENT OF DISTURBANCE IS THE INSTALLATION OF THE STORMWATER DEVICES, WHICH WILL BE DONE IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRUE ROOTS AND THE SYSTEMS OF ROOTS THAT ARE IN THE FRONT.
WE DON'T WANT TO DISTURB THAT OR INTERFERE WITH THAT.
SO WE PUT IT IN THE BACK AND ALL THE WATER FROM THE NEW ROOF WILL BE PIPED TO THE BACK.
THE, THE DISTURBANCE IS MINIMAL AT BEST.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY LARGE EXCAVATION WITH EQUIPMENT.
UH, FOR THE MOST PART, I BELIEVE THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING ALL THIS EXCAVATION BY HAND BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A SMALL TRENCH THAT ONLY HAS TO GO THREE AND A HALF FEET
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DEEP AND, UH, 10 FEET, 10 INCHES WIDE.SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH A MACHINE BECAUSE YOU WERE OVER, YOU WILL BE OVER EXCAVATING AND THEN IT WOULD COST MORE CONCRETE.
UM, THE REST OF THE, OF THE DRAWING THAT YOU HAVE, THE SITE PLANT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE, UH, SILT FENCE, WHICH IS OF COURSE A REQUIREMENT.
AND, UM, IT WOULD, IT WOULD CATCH ANY, ANY, ANY KIND OF SEDIMENT THAT WOULD, WOULD ESCAPE THE AREA OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND ONLY, THAT WOULD ONLY HAPPEN IF IT RAINS, BECAUSE THIS WOULD NOT MOVE.
THE, THE GROUND IS FLAT, THERE'S NO STEEP UH UH, UM, THERE'S NO STEEPNESS TO A POSSIBLE EROSION OR COLLAPSE OF SOIL.
IT'S DEAD FLAT AND THERE'S ALREADY AN ESTABLISHED GRASS SYSTEM, UH, PRESENT.
SO ANY SOIL THAT ESCAPES WOULD IMMEDIATELY BE CAPTURED BY THE EXISTING GRASS LAYERS THAT ARE THERE.
UH, WE ARE PLANTING, UM, UH, AARON, REFRESH MY MEMORY.
I BELIEVE WE PICKED TWO RIVER BIRCHES THAT'S CORRECT.
THE BUFFER AREA IS, HAS TREES, UM, HAS A FEW TREES, BUT IS THERE IS QUITE A BIT OR AN EXPANSIVE LAWN AREA.
SO THE INCORPORATION OF THE TWO RIVER BIRCH TREES INTO THE BUFFER, UH, WE THOUGHT WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT OVER EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THAT'S ON THE EXISTING PLANS, CORRECT? YES.
IS IT? I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T FIND THEM.
I KNOW I SAW IT IN THE NARRATIVE, BUT I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHICH WERE THE NEW TREES ON THE PLAN.
LET ME FIND, THERE'S A CALL OUT BOX FOR THE RIVER BIRCH.
UM, I DON'T, I DO HAVE THE PLAN IN FRONT OF ME.
AND THEN THE, THE ONE ARROW SEEMS TO GET LOST, BUT, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SYMBOLS, YOU CAN KIND OF FIGURE IT OUT.
BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A BUSY PLAN.
SO I I, AND IT TOOK ME A SECOND TIME TO FIND IT.
OKAY, SO BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE BROOK HERE.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN SEE WHAT'S BEING SAID.
DO YOU HAVE THAT DIGITAL? IF YOU'LL KEEP TALKING, WHAT I CAN DO IF, IF, IF WE NEED A MOMENT TO LOOK IT UP, UM, I CAN DIG INTO MY ELECTRONIC RECORDS, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE ME TWO OR THREE MINUTES AND THEN I'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE THE PLAN.
I, I JUST BEAR WITH ME MOMENTARILY.
I'M, I'M TERRIBLE WITH THIS ELECTRONIC SHOW.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHEN
I I CAN SAY THAT I'M EMBARRASSED.
'CAUSE AARON ALWAYS IS PREPARED AND, AND HE ALWAYS HAS EVERYTHING READY.
BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HIS CHILDREN ARE MISBEHAVE.
WE, WE WE'RE ALL LAUGHING 'CAUSE WE ALL DID IT.
WE, WE, WE WE DID TOO MUCH FOR THEM, DIDN'T WE? ANYWAY, I DID.
IT TURNED OUT ONE WENT TO AUSTRALIA GIRL.
SHE BELIEVED ALL THE WOMEN'S LIP STUFF AND SHE WENT AND FLEW TO AUSTRALIA AND SHE FOUND HER HUSBAND IN AUSTRALIA.
ANYWAY, I'M FILLING IN THE TIME.
THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT EVERYBODY SAYS, HOW CAN YOU LIVE LIKE THAT? BUT IT'S ALL TRUE.
EVERYTHING I SAY TO PEOPLE IS ALL TRUE
LIKE I USED TO SAY TO MY EX THIRD WIFE, I SAID, DON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU SEE.
ONLY BE ONLY BELIEVE WHAT YOU HEAR ABOUT ME, ABOUT ME
OH, SHE'S STILL FRIENDS WITH ME.
I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WOMEN'S LIVE AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE LOCATION OF THE BROOK WITH RESPECT TO THE, I'M GONNA TRY TO SHOW THIS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER SHAPE.
AND, AND, UH, IF YOU LOOK TO THE, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU JUST, IF YOU LOOK TO, OH, WHY DON'T YOU JUST HOLD ON, JUST WAIT, JUST LET AARON GET
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IT ON THE SCREEN.YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE I THINK THE QUESTION IS, OKAY, THE QUESTION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THAT, UM, THIS IS JUST IN TERMS OF WRITING UP THE APPROVAL.
THE DOCUMENT I HAVE IN MY HAND, I AM NOT ABLE TO LOCATE THE TREES.
THE WHAT? SO THEREFORE I NEED TO KNOW FOR SURE THAT THEY'RE ON THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT, OTHERWISE I HAVE TO ITEMIZE IT WHEN I DO THE WRITE UP.
SO THAT'S WHY WHEN AARON GETS THIS UP, WE CAN SEE IF IT'S THERE.
IF NOT, I JUST HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IN OUR APPROVAL THAT OUR APPROVAL MENTIONS THE TREES.
AARON, I, I DON'T KNOW IF AARON, YOU'RE ON MUTE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD ANY SUCCESS.
LET'S JUST HOLD ON TO AARON GETS IT UP AND WE'LL HAVE ALL HAVE THE SAME BASIS TO LOOK.
ANYWAY, THIS'S, IT'S TWO, IT'S TWO, UH, RIVER BIRCHES, WHICH I THINK I I LIKE A LOT.
HOW MANY CASES DO YOU HAVE TONIGHT, FOLKS? I, UM, THE, I JUST HAVE ONE DOESN'T HAVE A PLANTING SCHEDULE ON IT, OR AT LEAST I'M NOT SEEING ONE.
I THINK I SEE ONE TREE, A FOUR INCH TREE.
WHAT? SHARON? SHARON, YOU SEE WHAT I SEE A, I SEE A FOUR INCH TREE NEXT TO A 24 INCH TREE IN, IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
WAIT, THOSE ARE EXISTING TREES? HMM? THOSE ARE EXISTING TREES? YEAH.
THERE'S A LOT OF EXISTING TREES THERE.
JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR A MOMENT.
EVERYTHING'S GOING SLOW WHEN I NEED IT.
SHE GOES TO AUSTRALIA AND GETS MARRIED IN AUSTRALIA.
MY DAUGHTER WENT TO NEW ZEALAND.
OH, IT'S EVEN FURTHER GEORGIA.
YEAH, BUT SHE CAME BACK, MINE STAYED, UH, MINE BACK AFTER 20 YEARS.
HEY, DO YOU HEAR ANYTHING FROM GEORGE? BECAUSE GEORGE'S ON NO.
I'LL DOUBLE CHECK MY EMAIL JUST DOWN IS NOT IN A WAITING ROOM OR ANYTHING.
IS IF YOU IN IT WOULD COME UP, COME ON EITHER MY SCREEN OR, OR AARON'S SCREEN AND IT HASN'T.
I HAVE TO EMAIL IT TO MYSELF NOW.
AND, AND FORGIVE ME, I LOOKED IN MY PACKAGE AS WELL.
UM, AND THE PLAN THAT I HAVE IN MY PACKAGE AND, AND UNINTENTIONALLY I BELIEVE THE PLAN THAT WENT OUT TO YOU, UM, WHICH WAS THE PLAN PROVIDED BY MR. ESCALADES.
YOU KNOW, THE DAY THAT WE WERE GONNA GET THEM OUT DOESN'T HAVE THE TWO TREES SHOWN.
THERE'S A 36 INCH TREE LOCATED IN THE FRONT YARD ON I'D CALL THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, UM, KIND OF NEAR WHERE THE WATERCOURSE FLOWS TOWARDS A CATCH BASIN.
AND THEN ONE FURTHER UP THE EDGE OF THE WATER COURSE.
SO THEY'RE GONNA KIND OF FLANK THE WATER COURSE THERE AND SERVE AS A, AS A NICE BUFFER BETWEEN THE WATER COURSE AND THE HOME.
WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, AS I THINK I PUT PLACED INTO THE REPORT, AND, AND BASED ON MY MEASUREMENTS, I WANT TO SAY THAT THE NEAREST AREA OF DISTURBANCE WITH RESPECT TO THE ADDITION IS ABOUT 30 FEET TO THE, UH, ON THE, ON THE PLAN.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE PROJECT THAT MAYBE EITHER MYSELF OR MR. ESCALADES COULD UM, ANSWER FOR YOU? DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS? I, I JUST HAD A QUESTION.
I DON'T THINK ANY TREES ARE BEING REMOVED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM.
YEAH, NO, WE'RE NOT REMOVING ANYTHING.
AND THE, AND THE WATERCOURSE IS, UH, IT FLOWS, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL YEAR LONG.
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IT, IT STOPS.I WOULD SAY I WOULD PRO, I'VE NEVER SEEN A FLOW IN THE SUMMER, BUT THERE WAS SOME FLOW RECENTLY IN THE SPRING.
UH, IT'S A PERENNIAL TYPE OF, I MEAN, UM, UH, UH, A SEASONAL TYPE OF, UH, DRAINAGE CHANNEL, I, IT MIGHT BE DRAINING BECAUSE UPSTREAM THERE IS, UH, A SIGNIFICANT POND AND SO ON.
SO WHO KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT MOISTURE GETS, GETS TO THERE.
BUT IT IS, IT IS DEFINITELY AN ESTABLISHED, UM, CAUSEWAY AND IT'S FILLED WITH SHRUBBERY ON BOTH SIDES.
YOU, THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T EVEN SEE IT, BECAUSE IT'S VERY GREEN AND LUSH ALL AROUND IT.
AND WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO GO NEAR THERE.
THAT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN, WE, WE CAN'T EVEN WALK NEAR IT.
AND I WOULD POINT OUT THAT IT DOES GO INTO, UM, THE STORM WATER SYSTEM.
AND NOW, AND WHAT SHOULD WE LOOK AT? OKAY, SO THIS IS THE WATER COURSE, RIGHT? OKAY.
UH, IT ACTUALLY FLOWS IN THIS DIRECTION OKAY.
AND TIES INTO A CATCH BASIN IN THE SHOULDER OF THE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I GUESS I'D CALL THE, THE TERMINATION OF BAYBERRY ROAD.
THE, UH, PARKWAY IS ACTUALLY RIGHT OVER, UH, THE SPRAIN PARKWAY IS, UH, RIGHT ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THIS FENCE HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF BAYBERRY DOWN, IT'S LIKE AN PREVIOUS, IT'S CUL-DE-SAC EXTENDED.
SO THE WATERCOURSE FLOWS DOWN IN THIS DIRECTION AND, UM, THE ONE RIRI RIVER BIRCH IS HERE, IF YOU SEE MY CURSOR.
AND THEN FOLLOWING UP HERE IS THE OTHER ONE GOING IN.
AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE THAT THAT WASN'T, UM, PROVIDED IN THE PLAN THAT YOU RECEIVED IN YOUR PACKAGE.
I JUST GRABBED THEM OUT OF THE BIN AND, AND SENT THEM WITHOUT TAKING A HARD LOOK AT THEM.
WHERE, WHERE IS THE EXTENSION? UH, THE, THE, SO THE FRONT PORCH SHADED.
THE FRONT PORCH IS, THIS IS THE FRONT PORCH.
AND THEN THIS HERE IS A, AN ELEVATED DECK, WHICH IS GONNA BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH A, A SMALL TWO STORY ADDITION.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE IS ALSO A, UM, TWO STORY, SMALL TWO STORY ADDITION.
AND WHERE'S THE WATER GOING FROM? THE ADDITION THEN? UH, THE, INTO THESE TWO CHAMBERS IN THE BACKYARD.
AND THE BUFFER GOES ALL THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE HOUSE AND THROUGH MOST OF THE GARAGE IT'S PIPED INTO THOSE TWO CHAIN CHAMBER.
SO IT'S GONNA COME AROUND, HUG THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THEN GO INTO THE CHAMBERS, WHICH IS NICE.
'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THAT, UM, TO AVOID DOING ANYTHING TO THE TREES IN FRONT, CORRECT? RIGHT.
THEY DON'T WANT TO DAMAGE THE ROOT SYSTEMS OF THE, THIS CLUSTER OF TREES.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR, OKAY.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION THAT I THINK WE SEND THIS ON? UM, CITING THE, THE REVISED PLAN WITH THE TWO TREES? OH, JUST ONE SECOND.
TERRY IS THERE, I MEAN, UH, AARON, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TELL US ON? UH, NO.
IT SEEMED FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, WAS AGREEABLE TO PLANTING THE TREES.
I HAD MADE THAT SUGGESTION IN AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE BUFFER, UH, BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE WATERCOURSE.
SO THEY WERE CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT.
AND I THOUGHT THAT THE EXPLANATION BEHIND THE PLACEMENT OF THE STORMWATER UNITS WAS, WAS SATISFACTORY AND MADE SENSE FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DAMAGE THE ROOT SYSTEMS OF THE TREES THAT ALREADY EXIST ON THE SITE.
I HAD NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD THAN JUST THAT RECOMMENDING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS CUSTOMARY THAT THE C A C UM, INCLUDE AS PART OF ANY RECOMMENDATION.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THE STAFF REPORT THAT THAT ALWAYS HAPPENS.
WELL, I, I, I, I, UM, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS WITH, WITH, UH, INCORPORATING IT.
RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, ANY, I NEED A SECOND ON THAT.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING IN AND WE'LL GET A RECOMMENDATION OUT TO AARON.
SO THIS CAN THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BEING THANK YOU.
SO I GUESS THE NEXT THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS LET, UH, LIZ TELL US ABOUT WHAT SHE FOUND OUT TALKING TO PEGGY TAILS AT BOULDER RIDGE AND WHAT SHE FOUND OUT ABOUT GRID LIZ.
I WILL JUST START WITH A QUICK OVERVIEW
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OF WHAT THE GRID REWARDS PROGRAM IS.HAS ANYBODY, NOBODY ELSE HAD HEARD OF IT, RIGHT? LI LIZ, EXCUSE ME, I'M NOT INTERRUPTING.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO, UH, UH, WANNA TALK ABOUT? SO YOU, SO YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO TO YOUR, YOU KNOW, BE WITH YOUR FAMILY INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO US.
UM, NO, NOTHING ELSE, UM, THAT I CAN THINK OF.
I, I KNOW WE GOT CUT SHORT TALKING ABOUT THE THREE CITIES OF THE WORLD PROGRAM, AND MAYBE WE CAN BRAINSTORM ON SOME IDEAS FOR GETTING THAT WORD OUT.
UM, YEAH, WE SHOULD POSSIBLY OTHER OUTLETS.
SO, WELL THEN WHY DON'T WE DO THAT NOW SO WE DON'T HOLD YOU UP? BECAUSE USUALLY, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES YOU A BLOCK OF TIME TO, TO GET US.
LET'S TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND HOW WE COULD GET IT OUT.
I FOUND IT ON THE WEBSITE, UH, ON THE TOWNS.
UH, LIKE, LIKE MURRAY SAID, MOST OF THE STUFF IS POSTED.
IT'S ON THE, IT WAS POSTED, I THINK THE FIFTH.
SHOULDN'T BE GOING TO THE SCOTTSDALE INQUIRY.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A CONTACT? I DON'T.
I, THEY'RE LIKE TWO REPORTERS.
I FORGET THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME.
HE HAD CONTACTED ME A NUMBER OF TIMES AND THEN I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HIM.
RO ROBERT, ROBERT CHRISTO, IS THAT HIS NAME? AND I'LL SEND YOU THE EMAIL OF THE OWNER.
UH, HER NAME'S DEBBIE WHITE, SO, UH, LEMME JUST WRITE IT DOWN.
UH, I SEND DEBBIE'S EMAIL, UH, DEBORAH WHITE, UH, TO, UH, ERIN.
AND I'M, I'M SO, IT'S JUST SO PROUD OF YOU.
CAN YOU EMAIL THE, UH, CAN YOU, AND YOU HAVE THE ABLE TO GO ONTO THE WEBSITE AND EMAIL IT TO ME? THE, UM, UM, THE, WHATEVER PAUL POST, I, I READ IT VERY QUICKLY ON MY LITTLE IPHONE.
UH, 'CAUSE I, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE I CAN SEND THAT TO, UH, UH, UM, DIRECT OF THE EDGEMONT ASSOCIATION.
I CAN SEND IT TO ALL THE OTHER DIRECTORS OF THE MONT ASSOCIATION.
I ACTUALLY WROTE IT UP, SO I DO HAVE IT
AND TERRY, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO, UH, EMAIL IT TO SOME OF THE VERY NICE PEOPLE THAT WERE VERY HELPFUL AND, AND BY COMING TO LIKE CAROL DEUS, YOU KNOW,
OH, THAT'S A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I MEAN, CAROL DEUS HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO US OVER THE YEARS.
AND, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I I, SHE'S JUST THE ONLY ONE THAT CAME TO MIND.
UM, UM, BUT, UH, THAT WOULD BE, FRANKLY, I WANNA SEND IT TO MY GRANDKIDS, YOU KNOW.
AND I, I'LL SEND IT TO, UH, DOREEN FOR THE ASSOCIA, THE COLLECTIVE ASSOCIATION FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
SO I THINK WE, YEAH, I, I, THIS IS WONDERFUL.
I THINK WE SHOULD AND, AND, UH, IT'S WONDERFUL.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO, UH,
IF YOU SEND US THE TEXT, WE'LL TRY AND GET IT, GET IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CIRCULATION THERE.
AND, UM, THERE'S ALSO A A P D F, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANNA OVERWHELM THE SUPERVISOR.
I JUST WANTED HIM TO HAVE THE TEXT AND KNOW THAT, AND, AND HE WAS WILLING TO SHARE THAT.
BUT I'LL INCLUDE A P D F AS WELL THAT HAS SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
THINK YOU HAVE A, A, A STICKER, A LOGO STICKER LIKE THE, UH, ARBOR SOCIETY DOES.
THE, THE NATIONAL, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'VE PROVIDED, SO FOR INSTANCE, THEY DID PROVIDE, UM, AN EMAIL, LIKE IF WE WANTED TO HAVE A FLAG MADE UP, OR, UH, BANNERS FOR THE ROADWAYS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, THEY SENT ALL THAT STUFF.
I JUST PRINTED A CERTIFICATE WITH DOWN.
CAN, CAN WE HAVE, IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN PUT WITH, WHEN YOU COME INTO THE TOWN, THERE ARE THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS TOWN OF GREENBURG, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, I DUNNO, CHEST HIGH, FACE HIGH ON THE ROADS.
IS THERE ANY KIND OF, DO THEY MAKE ANY KIND OF ROAD, UM, THINGS THAT WE CAN PUT TREE CITY OF THE WORLD OR SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT RICH COULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE HIS GUYS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORK? YOU KNOW, PUT RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE IT SAYS THE TOWN OF GREEN, TOWN OF GREENBURG, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY.
I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
SOME PLACES I'VE SEEN, NOT, OBVIOUSLY NOT THIS 'CAUSE, BUT I, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE JUST PUT, UH, UH, COMMUNITIES PUT TREE CITY, YOU KNOW, U S A TREE CITY, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF THOSE.
WE HAVE THE SIGNS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE PUT UP IN GREENBERG FOR SURE.
AND SO I WONDER IF WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, UH, TREATY CITY OF THE WORLD.
THAT'S, I MEAN, IT'S JUST GOOD IF I GET THE LOGO, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET OUR SIGN SHOP TO PUT IT TO, YOU KNOW, PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
I WAS THINKING OF PUTTING IT, I WAS THINKING OF PUTTING IT ON THE OPENING PAGE OF THE, UH, WEBSITE OF
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THE TOWN WEBSITE.THAT IS A OH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
YEAH, THAT'S A ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, ERIN CAN GET, CAN ASK PATTY TO DO, OR YOU GOTTA WATCH OUT FOR SHARON.
IT'S OUT FOR, WATCH OUT FOR SHARON.
SHE COMES OUT WITH THE BEST IDEAS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THESE LITTLE THINGS THAT PAUL PUTS AARON ON THE BOTTOM OF ALL OF HIS EMAILS OF YEAH.
YOU KNOW, THEY GET A VACCINE OR, YOU KNOW, DO THIS, DON'T DO IT, OR IT'S DARK OUT.
CAN, CAN YOU MAKE ONE OF THOSE UP THAT CAN GO PERMANENTLY FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, PROUD, YOU KNOW, ONE OF, ONE OF TWO, ONE OF TWO NEW YORK COMMUNITIES, ONE OF ONE OF TWO COMMUNITIES.
THE STATE OF NEW YORK, THAT'S A, THE TREE CITY OF THE WORLD OR SOMETHING.
I'LL CERTAINLY SEE IF I CAN, UM, GET HIM TO PUT THAT ON.
WELL, WELL, IT ON MY OWN FOR SURE.
I, I HAVE TO CALL HIM ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
SO, UM, UH, I WILL MENTION THAT, UH, UH, DO YOU WANNA CONTACT HIM FIRST OR YOU WANT ME JUST TO MENTION TONIGHT WHEN I CALL HIM? IF YOU MENTION IT, WHEN YOU SPEAK WITH HIM? I ACTUALLY SAW HIM TODAY AND, AND HE THANKED ME FOR GETTING HIM THE WRITE UP THE OTHER DAY.
SO HE'S STARTING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, HE IS BEEN IN TOWN HALL AS OF LATE, AND I'M SURE I'LL BUMP INTO HIM AGAIN, BUT I ALWAYS LIKE TO SPEAK FACE TO FACE AT A REASONABLE DISTANCE WHEN I'M ABLE.
UM, SO
SO HE, HE WAS VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE WERE RECOGNIZED.
AND IT'S CALLED TREE CITY OF THE WORLD.
AND YOU'RE GONNA SEND US, AND SO YOU ON THE WEBSITE AND ALSO, WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE THINGS? ON THE BOTTOM OF THE EMAILS THOUGH? THE OF TOWN'S EMAILS.
DO YOU HAVE A NAME FOR THOSE? THOSE LITTLE LEGENDS ON THE BOTTOM? IT'S CALLED A TAG.
IT'S CALLED A WHAT MOMENT TAG.
I WAS GONNA SAY BANNER, BUT TAG IS CORRECT.
IT'S TAG BANNER WITH THE LAPTOP.
I WAS WAS GONNA SAY THE BANNER ALWAYS I THINK WAS THE TOP OF THE THING, BUT NOTHING, NOTHING.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK, I THINK ONE OUT OF 38 IS EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN, THAN TWO IN NEW YORK STATE.
WHAT, WHAT'S ONE OUT OF 38 TERRY IN THE COUNTRY? THE INTERNATIONAL THAT'S OUT.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S NATIONWIDE.
SO YEAH, WE'LL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
I MEAN, I, YEAH, I THINK IT'S WORTH SPENDING, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME WE SPENT ON IT.
THIS IS SUCH A WONDERFUL THING AND, AND IT GIVES AN AURA.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST GIVES AN AURA THAT, UH, THAT WE, THAT THAT'S
UM, DID YOU, DID YOU CHECK WHETHER WE GOT A EXTENSION OF THE ON ELMWOOD, THE 45 DAY PERIOD, WHICH I THINK RUNS OUT TOMORROW FOR THE FINAL, UH, E I S FOR, UH, ELMWOOD? I DID NOT CHECK, BUT FOLLOWING THE LAST MEETING, I DID FOLLOW UP WITH GARRETT AND THOUGHT I SENT YOU GUYS AN EMAIL BACK THAT SAID, UM, THAT THE 45 DAY WINDOW WOULD BE EXTENDED.
BUT, UM, I CAN SEND GARRETT, UH, THE COMMISSIONER A TEXT AND SEE IF HE IS ABLE TO GET BACK TO ME THIS EVENING.
WELL, WELL, DID YOU, DID YOU GET, DID YOU GET UH, I DIDN'T GET IT, BUT I MEAN, IT COULD BE MY FAULT.
YOU KNOW, HOW BATTERY, ALL THIS STUFF, TERRY, DID YOU GET A TEXT? I DON'T REMEMBER ME SAVING IT, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN SO MANY EMAILS WITH THE BATTERY THING THAT, UH, IT, IT WAS PROBABLY THE DAY AFTER THE LAST MEETING.
SO I WILL LOOK THROUGH MY RECORDS AND I CAN, UH, LOOK TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSIONER AS WELL.
WELL, IF YOU KNOW, WELL, HE'S BEEN TIED UP TOO.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T, I SURE YOU, I, I ASSUME YOU'VE SEEN WHAT HE WROTE, THIS MASSIVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HUGE, HUGE WORK.
MAGNIFICENT, HUGE WORK FOR WHAT HE DID.
IF I CAN REACH OUT TO HIM WHILE, WHILE YOU'RE STILL CONDUCTING THE MEETING, I CAN, IT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF BEING SURE THE C, D AND C DOESN'T GET CAUGHT IN SOMETHING THAT STEIN AND USE DOWN THE ROAD TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING FOLLOWING THE LAW.
SO I DO THINK NOW WE CAN HEAR FROM LIZ.
SO IF I AM SAYING THINGS THAT YOU ALL KNOW ALREADY, PLEASE INTERRUPT ME SO I CAN MOVE ON TO SOMETHING SO I'M NOT, 'CAUSE YOU ALL MAY BE A LOT MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN I AM.
UM, SO I, I SPOKE TO PEGGY AND I ATTENDED THE MEETING ABOUT THE CONED GRID REWARDS PROGRAM.
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I'M GONNA START WITH JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM.SO, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S BEING, UH, WELL SUSTAINABLE.
WESTCHESTER IS SPEARHEADING THIS ACTION AND I BELIEVE NYSERDA MIGHT ALSO BE INVOLVED, BUT DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT.
BUT, SO I DID NOT REALIZE THAT, WELL, YOU PROBABLY ALL KNOW THIS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WHEN CONED IS PULLING ELECTRICITY FROM THE GRID, IT'S COMING FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES.
AND DURING THE SUMMER, DURING THE, WHETHER IT'S 4, 5, 6 DAYS WHERE THE HEAT GETS TO BE OVER 95 DEGREES, JUST ON THOSE SUPER HOT DAYS WHEN WE'RE REACH USING PEAK POWER, THAT POWER DOES NOT COME FROM THEIR REGULAR SOURCES OF ENERGY.
THEY HAVE FOUR PLANTS THAT THEY PULL FROM THAT ARE VERY OLD, AND THE ENERGY SOURCES ARE EVEN DIRTIER THAN MANY OF THE OTHER ENERGY SOURCES.
AND IT COSTS THEM FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO MAINTAIN THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE, THEY ONLY USE FOR A FEW DAYS DURING THE SUMMER.
SO THE PLAN, THE BIG PICTURE FOR CONED IS TO ULTIMATELY STOP HAVING, STOP USING THOSE FOUR PLANTS.
UM, AND THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN DO THAT IS IF MORE PEOPLE GET ON BOARD AND WE REDUCE THE ENERGY THAT WE'RE USING PULLING OFF OF THE GRID DURING THE, THOSE PEAK TIMES.
SO THE IDEA IS YOU SIGN UP FOR CONED GRID REWARDS AND IT'S THROUGH AN APP ON YOUR PHONE.
YOU DO HAVE TO REGISTER YOUR CONED ACCOUNT ONLINE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY ONLINE TO PARTICIPATE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE AN ONLINE ACCOUNT.
AND YOU LINK YOUR CONED ONLINE TO THE GRID REWARDS PROGRAM AND SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER IS WORKING WITH, UH, OUTSOURCED IT TO LOGICAL BUILDINGS AND THEY RUN THE PROGRAM AND EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH THEM.
AND ONCE YOU'RE SET UP ON THIS APP, YOU WILL RECEIVE PUSH NOTIFICATIONS.
UM, SOMETIMES THEY CAN DO IT 21 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
SOMETIMES IT'LL ONLY BE TWO HOURS IN ADVANCE AND IT'LL ONLY BE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO SIX DAYS OVER THE SUMMER.
AND IT'LL ASK YOU TO, INSTEAD OF RUNNING YOUR AC AT 70, MAYBE IT, IT'LL ASK YOU TO UP IT A FEW DEGREES.
I DON'T KNOW, THEY DIDN'T SAY WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE, BUT YOU'LL BE ASKED TO MOVE YOUR THERMOSTAT UP A COUPLE OF DEGREES.
YOU'LL ALSO BE ASKED NOT TO RUN ANY APPLIANCES AFTER A CERTAIN TIME THAT DAY.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT DRAWS MORE POWER AS WELL.
AND THE HOPE IS THAT IF ENOUGH HOMEOWNERS SIGN UP, UM, BUILDINGS I THINK CAN SIGN, UH, BUSINESSES CAN SIGN UP AS WELL.
THEY'LL BE ABLE, AND THEY'RE MONITORING THIS THROUGH ALL OF THE SMART METERS THAT THEY INSTALLED ON ALL OF OUR, THE EXTERIOR ROLL OF OUR HOUSES.
SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR THERMOSTAT IS INSIDE.
AND THE IDEA BEING THAT EACH RESIDENT THAT SIGNS UP CAN EARN UP TO $200 CASH, WHICH WILL BE A CHECK SENT TO YOU AT THE END OF THE YEAR FROM CONED.
UM, IT ISN'T CLEAR TO ME IF THE CHECK COMES FROM CONED OR LOGICAL BUILDINGS, BUT EITHER WAY, UM, THE POINT IS THAT IF THEY CAN SAVE THE FOUR AND A HALF MILLION, IT'S A LOT LESS FOR THEM TO SEND EVERYBODY A $200 CHECK.
SO THAT'S THE INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO SEND OUT MONEY.
AND THE ONLY OTHER CATCH IS IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE THIS SUMMER, YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP BY APRIL 30TH.
YOU CAN SIGN UP AFTER APRIL 30TH, BUT YOU'LL BE PARTICIPATING THE FOLLOWING SUMMER.
AND PATTY, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AT BOULDER RIDGE, WHO'S VERY ECO MINDED, IS GOING TO WANTED TO PUT, SEND OUT A LETTER ON TOWN OF GREENBERG LETTERHEAD, ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY IN BOULDER RIDGE TO SIGN UP FOR THIS PROGRAM.
AND I SHOULD HAVE A LETTER FROM HER TOMORROW.
I SENT HER MATERIALS THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED AT THE MEETING I ATTENDED, AND SHE'S USING THAT TO PUT TOGETHER HER OWN LETTER AND SHE'S GONNA FORWARD THAT.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT TOMORROW.
AND THE MEETING THAT I ATTENDED, UM, I GUESS THE RIVER TOWNS ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO HAVE SOME KIND OF COMPETITION TO SEE WHO CAN SIGN UP THE MOST RESIDENTS IS A THIS IS, THIS IS, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PROGRAM.
SO YOU GET 200 BUCKS A YEAR UP TO 200, DEPENDS ON YOUR COMPLIANCE.
IF YOU DO EVERYTHING THEY ASK YOU TO DO, YOU CAN EARN UP TO $200 CASH BACK.
I, I, BECAUSE I SAY, I SAID SO WHAT YOU, I MEAN, WELL, HELL, IT'S NOT, I MEAN, MICHELLE NEVER LETS US, I MEAN WE DON'T, WE DON'T SET THE AIR CONDITIONING IT, THAT THAT WAS THE, THAT'S MY PROBLEM.
THEY WOULDN'T, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY,
YEAH, WELL, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF, SO, SO I I THINK WE KEEP IT AT 74 OR 75 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF WE KEEP IT TO 74, 75 AND WE GET THIS NOTIFICATION FROM CONED, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO? SO ALL YOU HAVE TO
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DO IS MOVE YOUR THERMOSTAT.I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS WILL BE.
THEY DIDN'T SAY DURING THE MEETING NOBODY, NOBODY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
SO, SO, SO, SO YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT UP.
WELL, DO YOU HAVE TO MOVE? NO.
IF YOU'RE 74, 75 ANYWAY, DO YOU HAVE TO DO ANYTHING BUT YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT UP FROM 74 70? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
THEY MAY JUST SAY, YOU KNOW NOTHING AND NOTHING BELOW 70.
YOU NEED TO, AND IT'S USUALLY AT NIGHT.
'CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE WHEN, WHEN THEY RUN INTO, BUT IT COULD BE ANYTIME.
LIZ, HOW'D YOU, HOW'D YOU FIND ALL THIS OUT'S? FASCINATING.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW I HEARD ABOUT IT ORIGINALLY.
I GUESS THROUGH, I'M ON SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, UM, DISTRIBUTION LIST.
SO THEY SENT OUT AN EMAIL ABOUT IT, WHICH I CAN FORWARD TO ALL OF YOU.
I GUESS YOU'RE NOT, YOU DON'T RECEIVE THEIR EMAILS.
AND THEN I GUESS MIKE AND TERRY WERE INVITED TO THE RIVER TOWNS WERE DOING A LAUNCH EVENT FOR THEIR COMPETITION THAT THEY'RE HAVING.
THEY ALL SPOKE ABOUT IT THERE.
THERE'S NO, YOU DON'T GET IN TROUBLE IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU CHOOSE, IF YOU DECIDE I'M NOT GONNA DO IT, NOBODY'S GONNA, THEY CAN'T AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE IT.
NO ONE'S GONNA KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE CONED POLICE AND NOW YOU'RE IN TROUBLE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DO IT.
AND YOU WON'T GET AS MUCH MONEY BACK IN THE END.
YOUR, YOUR, THE MONEY YOU GET BACK IS TIED TO YOUR COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROGRAM.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, I WONDER HOW THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE MONITORING THAT THOUGH BECAUSE AS MIKE WAS SAYING, IF YOU KEEP IT HIGH, I MEAN, I KEEP IT HERE MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT DURING THE DAY.
SO I I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT THE SMART METER THAT THEY SPEND A CHANGE.
IF YOU'RE ABOVE THAT CERTAIN LEVEL, THEN YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY GONNA GET THE REWARDS IF YOU ARE SIGNED UP FOR THE PROGRAM.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT, IT WON'T, WON'T BE BASED ON WHAT YOU DO.
SO TERRY, LET'S SAY IF YOU'RE KEEPING YOUR, HE YOUR A AC AT 78 'CAUSE YOU DON'T CARE AND THEY MAY WANT YOU, THEY'RE NOT AND THEY WANT YOU TO RAISE IT TO 76, WELL YOU'RE ALREADY ABOVE THAT.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY, IF IT'S THE EXTERNAL METER, HOW THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE DOING INTERNALLY OR IS IT JUST USAGE? I THINK IT'S BASED ON HOW MUCH POWER YOU ARE DRAWING OFF THE GRID.
SO THE LOWER YOUR THERMOSTAT IS IN THE SUMMER, THE HIGHER YOUR AIR CONDITIONING, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE BLASTING YOUR AIR THAT'S PULLING MORE POWER OFF THE GRID.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE READING HOW MUCH POWER YOU'RE PULLING OFF THE GRID.
BUT, BUT LIZ, I MEAN PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT SIZE STRUCTURES, UH, DIFFERENT SIZE ENCLOSURES.
SO COULD YOU PLEASE FIND OUT THIS ONE FACT? 'CAUSE THE LETTER WOULD NOT GONNA MAKE ANY SENSE TO PEOPLE IF YOU CAN'T FIND OUT THIS ONE FACT.
HOW DO THEY MEASURE? IS IT, DO YOU HAVE TO REDUCE WHAT YOU NORMALLY DO? THAT IS, IF YOU KNOW IF, WELL I DON'T KNOW WHAT TERRY, UH, TERRY SEEMS TO HAVE IT HIGHER THAN WE DO WE HAVE 74, 75.
DO WE HAVE TO GO HIGHER THAN OUR NORMAL 74, 75 AND REDUCE WHAT WE DO? OR BY DOING 74 AND 75, IF WE ALREADY ABOVE 70, WE GET 200 BUCKS ANYWAY WITHOUT FURTHER REDUCING IF TERRY, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I ACTUALLY, I GUESS BECAUSE I GUESS MY PROBLEM IS I ALWAYS GET THESE THINGS FROM CONED, LIKE PERIODICALLY THAT COMPARED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND THEY HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE GET THESE, THESE LETTERS.
I'M ALWAYS AN EXEMPLARY PERSON AND, AND THEN INCLUDING THE FACT THAT THEY THINK MY HOUSE IS 500 FEET SMALLER THAN IT IS.
SO I'M JUST LIKE MIKE SAID, I JUST DON'T, IF THEY'RE GONNA DO IT AGAINST MY EXISTING USAGE, THERE'S NO WAY I THINK MY USAGE IS GONNA GO DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY FROM WHERE IT'S, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION AND I WILL FIND OUT MY UNDERSTANDING.
ANOTHER, ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS NOT FROM KIND FROM THE, FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBERG WATER, WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, THE TOWN OF GREENBERG WATER SUPPLY.
UH, THING, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE GOTTA NOTICE THAT, UH, THEY WERE TURNING OFF OUR WATER BECAUSE UH, IT WASN'T USED.
WE JUST DON'T CONSUME WHAT MOST PEOPLE, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE ALREADY TRYING TO BE ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE, UM, I JUST KINDA UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU KNOW.
WELL I JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE NOT YOUR FAULT, BUT RIGHT.
WHAT YOU, WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY'VE INFORMED YOU DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY TRYING TO BE, ALREADY TRYING TO DO IT ON VOLITION, ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE.
AND THE OTHER BIG THING WAS NOT RUNNING LARGE APPLIANCES DURING THAT TIMEFRAME.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S QUITE INTERESTING.
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I, I WAS TRYING TO, UM, ACTUALLY REGISTER MYSELF AND WASN'T ABLE TO DO IT.SO I HAVE TWO CALLS AND AN EMAIL INTO THEM AND I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK.
IT'S BEEN 48 HOURS, SO THAT'S NOT A GOOD SIGN.
BUT OH, THAT'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING.
'CAUSE WE HAD THAT WITH THE ESCO, UH, THE GREEN ENERGY ESCO PEOPLE COMPLAINING OF HOW HARD IT IS TO DO.
SO YOU'VE GOT, IT'S GOOD THAT YOU'RE DOING IT.
'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO LET THEM KNOW THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS DON'T WORK.
UH, SO, UH, YEAH, PLEASE TALK.
SO I WILL LIKE RECOMMEND TO PEGGY.
UM, FOR PEGGY IT'S A LITTLE EASIER BECAUSE SHE CAN PROBABLY GATHER ALL THE PEOPLE AND DO A ZOOM PRESENTATION AND WALK THEM THROUGH IT.
UM, BUT THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF, I'LL FORWARD TO YOU ALL OF THE MATERIAL PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS THAT THEY'VE SENT OUT.
IN TERMS OF PEGGY, HAVE YOU MET WHATEVER SHE WAS LOOKING FOR FROM US? I GUESS JUST FINDING OUT THE INFORMATION AND YOU HELPED HER WITH THAT? SHE YEAH, SHE ACTUALLY HAD THE INFORMATION.
SHE JUST WANTS A LETTER FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG SUPPORTING THIS, THIS PROGRAM.
BEFORE WE, BUT BEFORE WE, I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL, BUT BEFORE WE UH, SOMEONE BETTER TELL PAUL BEFORE THIS GOES OUT, WE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS THAT GOTTA GET ANSWERED, RIGHT? WHO'S GOING TO TELL PAUL? PAUL'S IN BOLT RIDGE, ISN'T HE? YEP.
PEGGY CAN GO KNOCK ON HIS DOOR.
WELL, WOULD YOU PLEASE ASK HER TO SAY, WELL WE GOT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE I I WENT THROUGH THIS ON THE ESCO MM-HMM.
AND UH, THERE WAS A WHOLE BIG SMEAR IN THE ESCROW AND I ENDED UP HAVING TO WRITE A, UM, UM, UH, HAD TO WRITE THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS LETTER FOR PAUL, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO CLARIFY THINGS.
IT'S JUST BETTER TO WAIT A WEEK AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
IF YOU'D BE SURE THAT PEGGY, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST SAY, HEY, HEY, WE WANNA DO THIS, BUT LET'S, LET'S GET THESE THINGS ANSWERED.
LET'S BE SURE THE SIGNING UP IS USER FRIENDLY.
YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA GET THIS BEFORE WE GO OUT, UH, BECAUSE IT, IT'LL BACKFIRE OTHERWISE, SO FAR I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SIGN UP.
SO, AND IT IS A LITTLE TRICKY IF YOU'RE NOT TECH SAVVY.
IT'S DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT TRICKY.
BUT HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WHO CAN DOWNLOAD AN APP ON THEIR PHONE WOULDN'T HAVE IS SAVVY ENOUGH.
BUT I THINK EXCELLENT SUGGESTION, SHARON.
ANOTHER GOOD ONE FROM SHARON
YOU GOTTA GO FOR THREE BEFORE WE'RE DONE,
WELL, I THANK YOU LIZ, BECAUSE YOU FOLLOWED UP ON THAT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY INTERESTING PROGRAM.
AND EVEN IF THIS IS THEIR FIRST ROLLOUT YEAR, MAYBE BY NEXT YEAR, IT CERTAINLY IS THE TYPE OF PROGRAMS, UM, WE WOULD WANNA BE SUPPORTING AND, AND SAYING THAT WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE IT IT'S IMMEDIATE.
IT'S, IT'S AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, IT'S PEOPLE VERSUS TRYING TO GET, I THINK I, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, THE LARGE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN THE LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS IN REDUCING THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT.
AND IT'S THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER THAT IS THE PROBLEM AND NOT, YOU KNOW, BIG COMPANIES.
IT'S, IT'S US, IT'S ME, IT'S YOU.
AND THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WHERE INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO MAKE SMALL, SMALL CHANGES IN THE WAY WE LIVE THAT HAVE BIG IMPACTS.
I MEAN THE BIG IMPACT ON THIS ONE I THINK IS, IS TELLING IS THE IDEA THAT THE PLANTS THAT WOULD BE CLOSED ARE ONES THAT ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY, UM, UNDESIRABLE.
RIGHT? AND THAT CONED IS BASICALLY NOT USING THOSE PLANTS EXCEPT IN AN EMERGENCY, BUT IN AN EMERGENCY THEY HAVE NOTHING TO FALL BACK ON TO MEET THE NEED.
AND I'LL SAY THAT IN THE EMAIL SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER SENT OUT, IT DIDN'T MENTION ANY OF THAT.
I ONLY LEARNED ABOUT THAT IN THE PRESENTATION BY THE RIVER TOWNS, WHICH WAS THE THING THAT WAS MOST COMPELLING FOR ME.
LIKE, OH, OF COURSE I DON'T, I WANNA SEE THOSE PLANTS CLOSED DOWN.
AND THAT GOES TO HOW YOU CRAFT THE MESSAGE, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE, WELL THIS IS, THIS IS AN IN A KIND SALES PITCH OR SOMETHING.
THIS IS SOMETHING, THERE'S A REAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON IT THAT'S IMMEDIATE.
IT ISN'T JUST A, YOU KNOW, A OH I'M GONNA REDUCE MY, MY USAGE A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS, WE WILL NOT BRING ON ONLINE IN THE SUMMER PLANTS THAT ARE PROBABLY BURNING EITHER.
IF THEY'RE NOT BURNING COAL, THEY'RE PROBABLY BURNING VERY LOW GRADE PETROLEUM PRODUCT THAT THEY WOULD PREFER NOT TO USE.
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LIZ BELOW ALL THE OTHER FOSSIL FUELS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE ALREADY OUTRAGED ABOUT.SO I CAN DON'T EVEN WANNA KNOW WHAT IT'S, YOU HAVE A HELPLINE AND AN EMAIL THAT YOU CAN REACH OUT TO AS AN, AS I SAID, I CALLED THE EMAIL THE FIRST, THE HOTLINE EARLIER IN THE WEEK BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION THAT THEY ANSWERED AND THEN I RAN INTO THIS TROUBLE TRYING TO REGISTER MYSELF AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF ANYBODY.
WELL, THANK YOU YOU, FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE SO FAR.
IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET SOMETHING OUT BY THE END OF THE PERIOD, THAT'S GREAT.
IF WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR BACK FROM CONED.
THAT'S JUST A REALITY OF THE FAILURE ON THE CONED PART OF MAKING IT SOMETHING THAT, IT'S NOTED THAT I'M HEARING BACK FROM, IT'S THIS, UM, LOGICAL BUILDING THAT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER ARRANGED TO RUN THE PROGRAM WITH CON ED.
SO BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DID CALL CON ED, 'CAUSE MY, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO DOWNLOAD THE APP, IT SAID, OH, THERE'S A PROBLEM, CALL CON ED AND THEY GAVE ME A PHONE NUMBER AND OF COURSE AFTER WAITING FOREVER ON HOLD BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
UH, LIZ, JUST SO YOU, THE TERM FOR THESE FOUR PLANTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PEAKING UNITS, P E A K I N G PEAKING, PEAKING UNITS.
AND, AND FOR THE OBVIOUS REASONS, THEY, THEY, THEY ARE, THEY'RE OLD FOSSIL FUEL PLANTS, AS YOU SAY, IT COULD BE RUN BY COAL FOR I KNOW COAL OR, OR REALLY DIRTY PETROLEUM.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE SCRUBBERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEW, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH TECHNOLOGY SCRUBBERS, THEY HAVE OLD SCRUBBERS AND UH, THEY'RE, THEY, THEY HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED SO YOU CAN TURN 'EM ON AND THEY EXPENSIVE AS HELL TO RUN WHEN THEY DO TURN THEM ON AND THEY, THEY'RE CALLED PEAKING UNITS.
AND SO LIZ, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA BE THE CAPTAIN OF DOING THAT, BUT PLEASE IF YOU GO, I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SOME CHATS BACK FROM AARON.
UH, OKAY, SO WE GOT THE 45 DAYS.
WE'VE GOT THE 45 DAYS IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THE WRITTEN AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS GOOD TO KNOW 'CAUSE YES.
SO THE, UH, GARRETT SENT AN EMAIL TO THE APPLICANT, UM, INDICATING THAT AS LONG AS THEY WERE AGREEABLE TO IT, THE REQUEST IS FOR THE 45 DAY WINDOW NOT TO APPLY.
AND THEY DID WRITE BACK, UH, THAT THEY'RE AGREEABLE TO THAT, THAT IT WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE IN THIS INSTANCE WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT.
MIKE, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BATTERIES? AH, WELL, UH, UM, WE, I THINK JUST IN, WE HAVE HAD THE, THE COMMITTEE IS, UH, UM, THE CHAIRS AND VICE CHAIRS OF, UH, TWO, THE TWO LAND USE BOARDS, THE PLANNING BOARD C A C, AND, UH, UH, THREE RESIDENTS FROM THE AREA WHERE NO WOOD WOULD BE, WHICH IS THIS LARGE 80 MEGAWATT FACILITY.
UM, WE'VE MET WITH NYSERDA, WE'VE MET WITH CONED, WE'VE MET WITH THE TOWNS, UH, THE CONSULTANT THAT THE TOWN HIRED, WE HAD A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UM, INTEGRATING, UH, THESE FACILITIES THAT STORE, UM, ELECTRICAL ENERGY, UH, INTO BATTERIES, UH, LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, UM, AT UH, TIMES WHEN, UH, THERE IS A SURPLUS OF POWER LIKE A 2:00 AM IN THE MORNING ON, IN THE, IN THE SPRING OR THE FALL.
AND WHEN THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF POWER SUCH AS THE TIME PERIODS, LIZ HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, UM, THE BATTERIES, UH, PUT ENERGY BACK INTO THE GRID OR IN SOME CASES THE ADDED, THE ENERGY IS USED DIRECTLY ON SITE.
AND UM, UH, GARY DID A MASSIVE JOB OF COMING UP WITH A, UH, UH, AN INITIAL DRAFT OF PROPOSED LAW.
UH, UH, WE DISCUSSED THAT TODAY AT THE COMMITTEE.
AND THEN, UH, TERRY AND I SPENT ANOTHER HOUR AND A HALF OF, WITH GARY GOING OVER, UH, PARTICULAR DRAFTING, UH, UH, ISSUES AND UM, YES, REVISING THAT.
WE'RE MEETING AGAIN TOMORROW, MEETING AGAIN NEXT WEEK, PROBABLY IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS THERE'LL BE A DRAFT AROUND.
UM, IT IS, UM, VERY COMPLICATED
UM, THERE ESSENTIALLY WILL BE THREE TIERS.
UM, UH, ONE WILL BE, UH, UH, THE TIER THAT PEOPLE USE ON USE THEM, UH, FOR THEIR OWN, PUT IT ON THEIR OWN HOUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE IN THE GARAGE OR THEY HAVE OUTSIDE AND NEXT TO THE GARAGE OR SOMETHING.
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UP TO 75 KILOWATTS.UM, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A SECOND TIER THAT'LL GO IN, UM, INDUSTRIAL AREAS THAT'LL GO IN COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT COULD GO IN, UH, SCHOOLS OR, OR HOUSES OF WORSHIP.
UM, AND THESE THINGS WOULD GO UP TO, UM, IN, IN SOME CASES ABOUT 2,400, UH, UH, KILOWATTS IN SOME CASES AND IN THE MORE INDUSTRIAL AREAS UP TO 4,800 KILOWATTS.
AND THE LIST OF CONDITIONS GOES ON IN, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY SMALL PRINT SOMEWHERE ABOUT 10 OR 12 PAGES AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, REFINING THOSE NOW.
AND THEN WE HAVE KIND OF THE THIRD TIER OF LARGE FACILITIES, UH, GOING UP TO 80 MEGAWATTS.
AND UH, THEY, UH, WE'RE ONLY ALLOWING TWO OF THOSE AND THEY WILL BE HOOKED UP TO AN EXISTING CONED SUBSTATION AND, UM, THEY WILL HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS AND A FEW OTHERS.
AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW.
TERRY, YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING? I THINK MARIA HAS NO CONCUR WITH YOU THAT GARRETT DID A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK BECAUSE THIS IS AN AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT REVISING AN EXISTING LAW, YOU'RE TRYING TO PULL IN PIECES AND THE, THE TECHNOLOGY IS SO NEW AND COMPLICATED THAT PEOPLE, UM, ARE REALLY STRUGGLING TO, UM, PUT IT TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO REQUIRE FROM PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY ISSUES AND ALSO THAT WE DON'T WANNA GET STUCK.
UM, SO IT WITH LEFTOVER BATTERIES AROUND THE TOWN.
SO YOU HAVE TO REALLY CRAFT A LAW THAT ADDRESSES THE FINANCIAL MECHANICS OF INSURANCE, OF BEING SURE THAT THERE'S A BOND SO THAT WE CAN GET THESE REMOVED WHEN THEY END THE NORMAL LIFE CYCLE, THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T ABANDON THEM.
AND UM, I THINK MIKE HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF SUMMARIZING WHAT WENT ON.
A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS, A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS BY TOWN STAFF BECAUSE A VERY SHORT WINDOW WAS GIVEN TO DRAFT A VERY COMPLEX LAW.
SO A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THAT.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY? YES, AS A RESULT OF YESTERDAY'S PLANNING BOARD MEETING? UH, CHAIRMAN SIMON AND I HAD DISCUSSION AND I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING AND HE SAID I HAD TO DO IT IN A PARTICULAR WAY.
AND I FINALLY WOUND UP ASKING THE QUESTION IS CONSTRUCTING, AND THIS IS REGARDING A DIFFERENT ONE THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA, IS CONSTRUCTING THE PROJECT MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY DAMAGING THAN WHAT YOU GET FROM IT? IS THERE ANOTHER SYSTEM OF ENERGY STORAGE THAT CREATES LESS ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE IN THE SYSTEM YOU'RE PROPOSING? WELL, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, MARY, BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, JUST THIS WEEK A STUDY CAME OUT THAT SAYS THE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE OF CREA OF OF, OF MANUFACTURING AN ELECTRIC CAR IS MORE, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE OF, UM, OF, UM, ONE MANUFACTURING.
THAT'S NOT LIKE, I'M SORRY, MIKE, WHAT DID YOU SAY IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE, THAN THAN, THAN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF MANUFACTURING A GAS POWERED CAR.
HOWEVER, IN FAIRNESS, THE OVER THE LIFE OF THE USAGE, THE, THE BETTER ELECTRIC CAR COMES OUT BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY BETTER.
BUT THE QUESTION THAT AS MIKE SAID THAT WAS ASKED IS ONE THAT ALWAYS NEEDS TO BE ASKED.
AND IN, IN THE STAGE WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT IF YOU JUST LOOK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, CERTAINLY THE SOLAR PANELS ON THE HOUSES AND THAT'S A VERY POSITIVE THING IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND BATTERY STORAGE IS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE, THOSE TYPES OF OPERATIONS.
WHEN WE GET INTO THE BIGGER ONES, THAT'S WHY IT'S A TIERED APPROACH.
THE ISSUE BECOMES ONE AND MORE OF, UM, THE LARGER ONES.
IT WHERE THEY'RE BEING PLA PROPOSED TO BE PLACED FOR THE MOST PART WOULD HAVE VERY LITTLE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE, UM, INDUSTRIAL ZONES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE BIGGER FOCUS HAS BEEN ON SAFETY, UM, AND VISUAL
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IMPACT.UM, IN TERMS OF MANUFACTURING THE BATTERIES, I MEAN, I THINK AT THIS POINT THE FEELING IS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT.
EUROPE IS REALLY PUSHING VERY GREATLY ON THIS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA BE ISSUES ABOUT THE USE OF RARE EARTH WHO'S CONTROLLING IT.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE OUTSIDE THAT, BUT ENVIRONMENTALLY IT ISN'T AS THOUGH WE ARE PUTTING SOMETHING IN THAT'S VERY LARGE THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE A LARGE, YOU KNOW, CUTTING OF TREES OR USE OF LAND WHERE YOU HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF LAND OF IT OVER.
UM, I THINK THAT THE ONLY ONE, WE HAVE ONE POSSIBLE PROJECT THAT I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME BACK AND FORTH ON WHERE IT'S LOCATED, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY ONE.
AND THAT ONE, IN ALL FAIRNESS, UM, I THINK IT'S MORE AN ISSUE OF A SAFETY APPROPRIATENESS IN THE LOCATION RATHER THAN ONE OF ANY, OTHER THAN POSSIBLY THE FACT THAT IT BOUGHT.
THERE IS SOME CONCERN ABOUT HOW IT IS CONSTRUCTED BECAUSE IT IS NEAR TO A WETLANDS.
BUT I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AT THIS POINT, I PERSONALLY, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, DO NOT SEE THIS AS SOMETHING THAT'S HAS A GREATER ENVIRONMENTAL HARM THAN ADVANTAGE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION, HAVE YOU'VE SEEN ANY INFORMATION, UH, MURRAY THAT SAYS THAT, UH, THE, UM, MANUFACTURING COST, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, WHICH HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE EARTH TYPE OF, UH, UH, COMPONENTS.
THE REST OF IT IS ESSENTIALLY A STEEL, UM, AND, UM, AND GLYCOL, UH, TO KEEP THE COOLING DOWN, JUST PRETTY NORMAL CHEMICALS.
HAVE YOU DO, IS THERE ANY INFORMATION, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE IT, WE WILL SHARE IT WITH THE COMMITTEE.
THEY ARE BUILDING BATTERY STORAGE, BATTERY UNITS, ALL TO MANUFACTURE BATTERIES ALL OVER THE WORLD AS FAST AS THEY CAN.
IT'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM.
THERE IS NO QUESTION WHETHER ELECTRIC CARS IN THE, IN THE LONG AND IN THE SHORT TERM ARE BETTER.
THE SHORT TERM VOLKSWAGEN HAS COMMITTED TO BUILD ONLY ELECTRIC CARS.
GENERAL MOTORS HAS COMMITTED TO BUILD ONLY ELECTRIC CARS.
MORGAN CHASE TWO DAYS AGO RELEASED A REPORT SAYING, I'VE CHANGED.
SO THE INFORMATION YOU'RE GIVING ABOUT, WELL, IT'S GONNA THIS, THAT IT'S TAKING TIME TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE INFORMATION THAT YOU QUOTED ABOUT THE NEGATIVITY OF THAT IS BAD INFORMATION AND NOT SUBSTANTIATED, SUBSTANTIATED BY GOOD RESEARCH.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU, NO, YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
DO YOU KNOW OF ANY RESEARCH THAT, THAT ANALYZES THE ENVIRONMENTAL COST OF MANUFACTURING BATTERY TRUCTURE? SO I CAN TELL YOU THE RESULT OF THAT, UH, RESEARCH.
THE RESEARCH THAT YOU MENTIONED, I KNOW ABOUT, AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT BASED ON ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL, THAT'S BASED ON OPINION BY MANUFACTURERS OF, UH, SOLIDS OF, UM, FOSSIL FUELS.
WHAT THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY IS.
YOU, YOU WANT THE INFORMATION OR NOT? I GET, I, I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO ANSWER ANOTHER QUESTION.
DO YOU KNOW OF ANY INFORMATION THAT SAYS THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITY MANUFACTURING PROCESS IS, UH, A NEGATIVE? DO YOU KNOW IF SO, WHERE IS THAT INFORMATION? THERE IS NO INFORMATION THAT SAYS MANUFACTURING BATTERIES IS A NEGATIVE.
EVERYTHING THAT I'VE READ AND I READ EXTENSIVELY ABOUT IT ALL OVER THE WORLD, IT IS A POSITIVE.
SO THEN YOU'VE ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION, I WOULD SAY, AND JUST TO QUALIFY MARY, MARY TOO.
SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT, MARY, IF IT'S A POSITIVE TO MANUFACTURE THIS, WHAT IS YOUR POINT? THE POINT IS THAT EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO MANUFACTURE BATTERIES OR YOU'VE GOT THIS PROBLEM AND IT'S, IT'S ALL FALSE INFORMATION.
NO, I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS SAID THAT.
AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY WHAT MIKE, SO WHAT WE DID NOT SAY THAT WHAT MIKE SAID, AND THIS IS ACCURATE, IS THAT THE MANUFACTURING IS A DIFFERENTIAL.
BUT DURING, AND I ADDED BECAUSE IS THAT THE, DURING THE LIFE OF THE CAR, THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE COMES OUT AHEAD AS BEING MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
WHAT IS YOUR POINT ON BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE? IF THERE'S A NEGATIVE, I WANNA KNOW IT.
BATTERY STORAGE IS ONE FORM OF ENERGY STORAGE.
THERE ARE MANY TO CHANGE THE SPECIFICA, THIS IS ONLY PART OF A VERY MUCH LARGER PICTURE.
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I'M NOW DISCUSSING WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG THAT EVERY HOUSE SHOULD HAVE A DISTRIBUTED ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM.AND THERE ARE MANY, AS I FIND OUT, WE'RE IN A TRANSITION PERIOD WHERE THREE QUARTERS OF THE INFORMATION PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC IS INACCURATE.
AND IF YOU WANT ME TO, I DON'T KNOW.
I SPEND ALL OF MY TIME NOW ON GLOBAL WARMING AND ENERGY.
I AM INVOLVED AT AREAS THAT BEYOND, AND I WORK WITH PEOPLE WHOSE DEDICATION IS GLOBAL WARMING.
ALL I CAN DO IS PRESENT THIS INFORMATION AND TELL YOU THAT MOST OF THE INFORMATION YOU SEE ON TELEVISION IS INACCURATE.
NOW, I'M NOT HERE TO CONVINCE YOU.
I'M HERE TO PROVIDE, I WANNA BE CONVINCED.
WOULD YOU PLEASE EMAIL TERRY AND I AND WE'LL, I DON'T HAVE YOUR EMAIL.
I DON'T HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES.
THE WHOLE KITTEN CO SEND IT TO AARON.
I WANNA BE CONVINCED, I WANT YOU TO SHOW ME WHERE THIS STUFF ISN'T WORTH IT.
I WANNA BE SURE MURRAY, YOU CAN, YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND I WILL FORWARD IT ALONG TO THE GROUP.
'CAUSE WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS JUST SET UP SO THAT THESE, THESE BATTERY STORAGE DEVICES CAN BE PUT IN GREENBURG.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
AND RATHER THAN PROHIBITING THEM, WE ARE SETTING UP THE WAY TO PUT THEM IN THE TOWN.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A CONFLICT.
CARRIE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T SEE YOU.
THEY DON'T APPEAR 'CAUSE I HAVE IT ON SPEAKER VIEW.
YES, SHARON, CAN THESE BE INSTALLED UNDERGROUND? MM-HMM.
WELL, WE SOLAR PANELS, THEY'RE BEING, THEY'RE BEING INSTALLED CALLED THE BEES.
SHARON, WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS FROM, UH, FROM UM, UH, A LOOP, WHICH, WHICH IS THE TOWN SAFETY CONSULTANT, IS THAT VENTING IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THE REASON VENTING IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A RUNAWAY THERMAL FIRE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE FUMES BE VENTED OUT BECAUSE IF YOU KEEP THE FUMES IN THE CABINETS, IT CREATES MORE OF A PROBLEM.
SO WE'VE BEEN ADVISED OF VENTINGS IMPORTANT.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE EVER ASK THE QUESTION, BUT WE'LL ASK THE QUESTION.
CAN YOU DO 'EM UNDERGROUND? WE TELL THAT VENTINGS IMPORTANT.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE VENTING, YOU DON'T HAVE AIR.
SO THE FIRE WILL, UH, SUFFOCATE.
WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE THINKING, ONE PART OF WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS, UM, UH, C M U WALLS, THAT'S, UH, CEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL IT STANDS FOR.
CEMENT AND MASONRY OR SOMETHING.
THEY, THE PLANNING BOYS KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH THESE.
THEY'RE CALLED FOUR HOUR CMU WALLS THAT CONTAIN IT.
AND WE'RE ALSO CONSIDERING HAVING, UM, THIS WAS WALTER'S IDEA WHO CHAIR THE PLANNING BOARD FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS, WHICH WOULD AUTOMATICALLY JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM EXCEPT I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I'M NOT SURE IT'S WATER THAT COMES OUTTA IT.
IT'S A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, UH, THAT AUTOMATICALLY WOULD GO ON.
UM, SO, UM, UH, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE CONSIDERING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
BUT I, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT VENTING WAS IMPORTANT.
SO I, I DON'T THINK ANYONE RAISED THE ISSUE OF UNDERGROUND, BUT WE'LL ASK.
WE'LL ASK THE QUESTION, SHARON.
THE, THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY IS TO PUT THEM RIGHT IN THE APARTMENTS.
THEY'RE BUILDING APARTMENT HOUSES IN NEW YORK WITH A SIMILAR TYPE OF BATTERY IN EACH APARTMENT.
THE IDEA IS NOT TO CREATE A MASS UNIT ANYWHERE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THOSE MASS UNITS BELONG AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL AREA IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
IT IS GONE FROM WHAT THIS STARTED TO DISTRIBUTED STORAGE AS IN YORKTOWN.
THEY HAVE ONE RIGHT BEHIND THE SHOPPING CENTER.
NONE OF THE ISSUES THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION ARE NOW VALID ANYMORE.
WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT UP, THAT WAS YEARS AGO.
THE TECHNOLOGY HAS ADVANCED TO THE POINT WHERE THERE IS NO PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE IS NO FIRES.
AND CHAIRMAN SIMON, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
WE'VE SEEN THEM, WE'VE SEEN VIDEOS OF THE FIRES.
HOW RECENT WE ARE TRYING AND, AND LET ME SAY UNDER THE LAW THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, THERE ARE ONLY TWO THAT WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
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MINIMUM LOT SIZE, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY DO IT, WILL BE EITHER 10 ACRES OR 25 ACRES.THERE'S ACTUALLY ONLY ONE THAT HAS A POTENTIAL FOR A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
'CAUSE THE OTHER HOOKUP IS IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
SO THERE'S ONLY ONE, AND THAT WILL BE ON, YOU'RE RIGHT TERRY, I'M WRONG.
THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT'LL BE ALLOWED IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND IT WILL BE ON 25 ACRES.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY NEW YORK CITY APARTMENT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, SITUATED ON 25 ACRES, BUT THE ONLY ONE IN THE RESIDENT IN AN R ZONE, WHICH IS AN R 30 ZONE, IT WILL BE ALLOWED UNDER THE PROPOSED LAW IS IN AN R 30 LOAN, R 30 ZONE, AND IT WILL BE ON 25 ACRES.
AND IF THE USE OF THAT PROPERTY SHOULD CHANGE, THE PRINCIPAL USE OF THAT PROPERTY SHOULD CHANGE.
THERE WILL BE A 10 ACRE ENVIRONMENTAL EASEMENT DEDICATED TO THE TOWN.
MAY MARY MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS LAW THAT WE'RE GOING TO COBBLE TOGETHER IS GOING TO BE OUTDATED TOO SOON.
THE, THE SOURCES OF ENERGY CAN CHANGE VERY QUICKLY.
THE ISSUE THERE, SHARON, BECOMES YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LAW.
AS WE'RE DRAFTING THIS, WE'RE VERY CONSCIOUS, CONSCIOUS THAT THIS IS A LAW THAT MAY NOT HAVE A VERY LAW LIFESPAN.
THE THING IS, WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY IS GOING RIGHT AT THIS POINT.
SO YOU CAN, IF YOU HAVE NO LAW, THEN YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER HOW THINGS ARE SET UP OR WHAT SIZE COMES IN OR WHERE THEY GO, WHETHER THEY'RE BUFFET FROM VIEW SITES.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS NOW WITH WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE EXISTING TECHNOLOGY.
AND OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT ADVOCATING NO LAW.
WHAT I'M QUESTIONING IS SOME WAY TO ANTICIPATE THAT THE FURTHER TECHNOLOGY WILL MAKE THE SIMPLE ANSWER, SHARON.
THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS NO, WE'RE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO ANTICIPATE WHAT BRILLIANT, WRONG AS WE'LL, UH, DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE.
WE REALIZED, WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION.
WE JUST WEREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO ANTICIPATE WHAT PEOPLE HAVEN'T DONE TODAY WILL DO IN THE FUTURE.
BECAUSE NONE OF WHEN IT WILL ARRIVE.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WITH TECHNOLOGY IS YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN TECHNOLOGY WILL ARRIVE.
AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT MAKE TECHNOLOGY HAPPEN.
ONE IS IT'S INVENTED AND IT HAS A NATURAL IMPLEMENTATION LIFE.
THE OTHER ONE IS, IT'S INVENTED AND THEN SOMETHING OUTSIDE FORCES IT TO BE MOVE AHEAD MUCH MORE QUICKLY.
SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT, MEETING ELECTRONICALLY BECAUSE OF COVID HAS NOW BECOME A STANDARD FOR EVERYBODY TO DO.
AND PEOPLE JUST, YOU KNOW, ARE USED TO DOING IT.
AND PEOPLE WHO WOULD'VE TAKEN PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX YEARS OR MORE 10 YEARS TO GET INTO THE HABIT OF DOING THIS, ARE DOING IT BECAUSE IT BECAME A NECESSITY.
SO THERE ARE TWO PARTS TO THAT TECHNOLOGY PIECE.
IT ISN'T JUST THAT IT GETS INVENTED, IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED, UM, AND EVERY, ALL THE OTHER PIECES HAVE TO FIT IN.
I ALWAYS USE THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE BEFORE THERE WAS AMAZON, THERE WAS IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE INTERNET, SOMETHING PUT TOGETHER BY MICROSOFT, SEARS AND I, ONE OF THE PREDECESSORS OF THE BELL SYSTEM.
IT WAS ONLINE SHOPPING FROM SEARS.
AND IT FAILED BECAUSE THE INTERNET WASN'T FAST ENOUGH AT THAT TIME.
SO ACTUALLY BOZOS DID NOT INVENT THE CONCEPT.
THE CONCEPT WAS OLD WHEN IT WAS IMPLEMENTED, BUT THE TIME WAS CORRECT.
AND THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF THE ADOPTION.
AND WHEN WE GET TO A CERTAIN TECHNOLOGY THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IT.
SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE LAW TO MEET THE NEEDS WE HAVE NOW WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS LAW WILL CHANGE.
THERE'S NO DOUBT IN OUR MINDS ON THAT SAID WHAT LIZ SAID TONIGHT ABOUT CON EDISON AND GRID WAS ONLY ONE OF A DOZEN STEPS THAT CON EDIS IS DOING TO REDUCE CONSUMPTION UNTIL THEY GET THE BACKUP CREATED CORRECTLY.
THERE ARE MANY OTHER STEPS THEY'RE TAKING, ALL OF WHICH WILL GET US THROUGH THIS SUMMER BECAUSE THIS SUMMER IS CRUCIAL FOR CON EDISON.
THERE JUST IS NOT ENOUGH ENERGY CREATED WITHOUT GOING REALLY DIRTY.
AND THEY'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO IT.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THEY'RE PUTTING IN NEW POLES, WHICH ARE SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN THE POLES THEY'RE REPLACING SO THAT THEY CAN RAISE THE VOLTAGE OF THE ELECTRICITY.
THEY'RE DOING ALL KINDS OF STUFF IN THE PIPING AND IT'S COMING.
I'M SAYING THAT THEY HAVE TO GET THROUGH THIS SUMMER, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THEY'RE DOING IT
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OF MANY.OKAY, I THINK, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TONIGHT THAT WE REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT? UH, THE BLOWER LAW.
WE'RE WAITING FOR IT TO GET ON THE CALENDAR, UM, WITH THE TOWN.
LIZ, LIZ, YOU HAVE SOMETHING DANIEL ABOUT IMPACT 100? OH YES.
THANKS FOR THINKING ABOUT MIKE.
YOU GUYS ARE ALL WELCOME TO ATTEND.
YOU CAN GET A LITTLE PREVIEW OF CARBON TRACKER.
UM, IF YOU CAN'T ATTEND THE WHOLE EVENT, PATTY WILL BE THE FIRST SPEAKER.
SO, AND IT'LL START PRETTY PROMPTLY AT SEVEN AND SHE'LL SPEAK FOR THE FIRST 25 MINUTES AND THEN YOU CAN
SO I AM INVOLVED IN A NONPROFIT AND THROUGH THEM, UM, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING ECO-FRIENDLY, BUT THROUGH THEM I'M PUTTING TOGETHER AN ENVIRONMENTAL PANEL.
ONE OF THE SPEAKERS IS PATTY BUCHANAN.
UH, SHE AND HER HUSBAND ARE FOUNDERS OF CURE 100 AND CROTON.
AND, UH, THEIR BACKGROUND, I THINK HE'S A SCIENTIST, SHE'S A LAWYER.
THEY PUT TOGETHER WHAT THEY CALL A CARBON TRACKER, WHICH THEY OFFER FOR FREE TO MUNICIPALITIES.
AND THEIR PHILOSOPHY IS THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU REDUCE SOMETHING YOU CAN'T MEASURE? SO THEY'VE COME UP WITH
WE BOTH LIKE LITTLE PEOPLE LIKE THE, LIKE LITTLE PEOPLE DO IT.
LIKE, YEAH, WE CAN ALL DO IT ON OUR OWN.
YOU JUST FOLLOW, YOU JUST DO IT ONLINE AND IT TELLS YOU WHAT YOUR CARBON FOOTPRINT IS AND IT'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHERE YOU CAN DO BETTER.
IS THIS SOMETHING, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF AARON'S STILL ON THE PHONE.
IS IS AARON ON YOU ON I SEE HIM.
I THINK HE'S TAKING CARE OF HIS KIDS, MIKE.
WELL, AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE DOWN THE ROAD, NOW WE CAN TALK WITH AARON.
IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN, UM, PUT ON THE WEBSITE AND PEOPLE CAN, UH, CAN, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, DO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TONIGHT, BUT WE CAN.
IT'S SO, I, IT'S A GOOD THING LIZ MURRAY'S SHAKING HIS HEAD.
HE KNOWS MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO, I GUESS.
UM, I'M SORRY IF MIKE HAVE A QUESTION FOR ME.
WELL, HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT WHAT? HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT WHAT LIZ IS TALKING ABOUT? THIS CARBON TRACKER? I DID BRIEFLY HEAR ABOUT IT.
UM, SOMETIME FOLLOWING, I THINK LIZ BRINGING IT UP AT THE LAST MEETING.
SO I, I HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF IT AND, UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT.
I DID, I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT A PANEL BEING SET UP AND SOMETHING TAKING PLACE AT 7:00 PM BUT I WASN'T CERTAIN OF THE DATE.
WELL, DOWN THE ROAD, UH, WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT, IS THIS SOMETHING THE TOWN WANTS TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE SO RESIDENTS CAN, UH, CAN UTILIZE THIS, UH, IF THEY WANT TO.
THEY, THEY, SO I, I, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'LL JUST FOLLOW IT, LIZ, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT ON SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD.
THEY LIKE TO SCHEDULE AN EVENT SO THEY CAN EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHY THEY SHOULD CARE, UH, WALK THEM THROUGH IT.
I, I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN HIM PRESENT THE HUSBAND AND IT'S VERY POWERFUL.
I THINK YOU SENT, YOU HAD AN EMAIL, DIDN'T YOU? LIZ DO WE SHE DID THE INFORMATION.
SO I SUGGEST WE ALL GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR EMAILS BECAUSE I THINK YOU SENT IT TO EVERYBODY.
IT WE'RE A WOMEN'S ORGANIZATION, SO THERE WON'T BE A LOT OF MEN IN THE ROOM, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME MIKE AND ERIN.
BUT
LIZ GETS SENT OUT TO EVERYBODY THE, THE LINK FOR THE PRESENTATION AND SHE'LL, MARGARET.
MARGARET, CAN YOU, CAN YOU, MARGARET, UH, UH, WHAT, CAN YOU GO TO THAT PRESENTATION WITH LIZ AND THEN YOU AND LIZ REPORT BACK TO THE C A C.
I GOTTA TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN IN A BIT OF A FOG, UH, LOSING MY BROTHER AND I, UH, HAVE NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO MY PHONE FOR SOME TIME.
SO IF YOU COULD SEND IT BACK TO ME, LIZ, I'D BE SO HAPPY TO READ IT.
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OKAY.IF YOU AND LIZ WOULD GO TO THIS, IF IT'S CONVENIENT FOR BOTH OF, I'M, I'M CO-CHAIRING IT, SO I HAVE TO BE THERE.
I THINK WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW IS I'M SENDING IT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
IT'S APRIL 20TH, TUESDAY, APRIL 20TH.
THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE PATTY ABOUT THE CARBON TRACKER.
THE SECOND SPEAKER IS, UM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NATIVE PLANT CENTER.
CAROL COPE WITH BIANCO TALKING ABOUT NATIVE PLANTS.
SO RIGHT UP YOUR ALLEY, SHARON.
OKAY, SO THIS IS TUESDAY, APRIL, SO WE'LL HAVE THREE PEOPLE.
LIZ IS GONNA BE ON IT AND SHARON, AND IF SHE CAN MARGARET ATTEND? I MAY, I MAY.
I JUST, THERE, I JUST RESENT LIZ'S NOTE TO EVERYBODY AND SO THEN WE, UNLESS WE HAVE A BIG CONFLICT, WE COULD PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR, UH, THE 22ND, I GUESS, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH, LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH IT, MIKE, ONCE WE LOOK AT IT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH IT BEFORE WE START SCHEDULING, I, I WILL SEND YOU GUYS A LINK TO THE, UM, TO THE WEBSITE ABOUT IT AS WELL.
WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT MOSTLY WOMEN BEING THERE IS VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT.
AS WOMEN BECOME MORE INVOLVED IN THE ENVIRONMENT AND WHERE WE ARE, THINGS WILL CHANGE.
IT'S BEEN MALE DOMINATED FOR TOO LONG AND THERE'S A DIFFERENT SENSIBILITY AND I WANT IT RECOGNIZED THAT YOU'RE TAKING A STEP THAT MY GENERATION WAS NOT ABLE TO TODAY.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THIS EVENING, FOLKS? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THIS EVENING? IF NOT, I THINK WE COULD THROW OUT REAL QUICKLY.
I DID ATTEND THAT, UM, MUNICIPALITY UPDATE EVENT.
OH, I, I DON'T HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON IT, BUT A LOT OF THE TOWNS SEEM TO HAVE ADOPTED THAT STRETCH CODE THAT I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
'CAUSE I'M NOT GOOD AT READING LAWS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ A LAW, BUT THAT SEEMED TO BE, THAT CAME UP A LOT IN PRESENTATIONS.
THIS WAS, I THINK AARON, DID YOU GO TO THAT? I KNOW RICH FOND WAS GONNA GO TO IT.
I THINK IT WAS, UM, EACH
WHICH PROGRAM WAS THIS? I'M SORRY.
I WAS RECENTLY ON A PROGRAM, BUT GARRETT WAS NOT PRESENTING, SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND IT DEFINITELY WASN'T THAT ONE.
IT WAS WESTCHESTER COUNTY MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY CONFERENCE.
WAS THAT THIS WEEK? EARLIER THIS WEEK? THAT WAS ON APRIL 1ST.
I WAS ON SOMETHING EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH THE COUNTY, UM, BUT A SEPARATE PRO.
THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS PUT ON A, A PROGRAM EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT I WAS ON, BUT, UH, NOT ON APRIL 1ST.
COULD YOU, COULD YOU YOU CHECK WITH GARRETT MAYBE AND GET BACK TO US AS TO WHAT WENT ON AND WHAT WEST AND WHAT GREENBERG'S POSITION IS ON THIS SINCE IT'S, IT SEEMED TO BE FROM THE BLURB SOMETHING WHERE ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES WERE COMING IN AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
WOULD, CAN YOU OR LIZ, WOULD YOU MIND SENDING ME AN EMAIL AND I CAN GET AN UPDATE FROM GARRETT AND SEND IT OUT TO THE GROUP? YEP.
NOBODY SAID WHAT THEY WERE DOING WITH IT.
JUST SEVERAL WHEN THEY GAVE THEIR UPDATE ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY MENTIONED, OH, AND WE'VE ADOPTED THE NEW YORK STATE STRETCH CODE THAT THEY DIDN'T SAY THE NEW YORK STATE WHAT CODE STRETCH STRETCH CODE THIS IS.
IT'S A NICE, IT'S A NY SERTA PROGRAM.
IT'S FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO ADOPT FOR THE PURPOSE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATION OF BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL TO MAKE IT WORK WELL.
WELL THAT, THAT KIND OF TIES TO WHAT, UH, GEORGE AND NANCY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
THAT TIES INTO WHAT GEORGE AND GEORGE, IT REPLACES WHATEVER THEY HAD ON THE BOOKS BEFORE.
AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WRITTEN SO THAT A MUNICIPALITY CAN EASILY ADOPT IT INTO THEIR OWN LAW.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
IT TALKS A LOT ABOUT, UM, I THINK THE FOCUS HAS A LOT TO DO WITH CLEAN ENERGY IN THE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, THE ENVELOPE OF THE BUILDING.
BIGGER PICTURE STUFF AS OPPOSED TO OKAY, WELL THAT'S, NO, I THINK THAT'S, UH, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY NY START IS JUST DROP IT IN.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THEY DID ON THE BATTERIES, WHICH REALLY DIDN'T
THAT IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.
WELL, WE HAVE MIKE, MIKE DOES THAT FOR US.
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MATTER, YOU KNOW.ANYTHING ELSE FOR TONIGHT? WHAT WE PRETTY MUCH SAID? I THINK I THANK YOU ALL.
AND WE'LL BE TOGETHER, UM, IN TWO WEEKS.
UH, IT'S SO NICE TO SEE YOU ALL.
WELL, WE'RE VERY GLAD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE, EVERYBODY.