* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. HEY, PAUL. [00:00:01] GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO OUR GREENBERG, OUR TOWN BOARD MEETING TODAY IS, UM, APRIL 14TH AT 7:37 PM AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA START WITH A PLEDGE OF [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES, OF STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, REPUBLIC, ONE NATION, NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND, UM, NEXT, THE ROLL CALL [ ROLL CALL: Town Clerk] FROM THE TOWN CLERK. I DON'T SEE THE TOWN CLERK, SO I'LL TAKE THE ROLE. UH, SUPERVISOR QUALIFIER HERE. COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEN. PRESENT, COUNCILWOMAN DIANA NER, PRESENT COUNCILMAN KEN JONES. PRESENT COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON PRESENT. AND WE HAVE, UM, [ MOMENT OF SILENCE In memory of the 562,296+ individual victims of COVID-19 who have died in the United States, 2,940,000+ deaths worldwide, each leaving family members and friends too soon] A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN MEMORY OF, UM, THE 563,873 INDIVIDUAL PLUS INDIVIDUAL VICTIMS OF C OVID 19 WHO HAVE DIED IN THE UNITED STATES. UM, 2,979,095 PLUS DEATHS WORLDWIDE, EACH LEAVING FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS. TWO, TWO SOON. THANK YOU. AND NOW, UM, WE'LL START [ PRESENTATIONS County Executive George Latimer - Update on Covid-19 Epidemic Westchester Collaborative Theater People of Color Festival 2021 - Misha Templar Sinclair and Alan Lutwin] WITH, UM, A PRESENTATION FROM, UM, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PAUL AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. UH, THIS IS GEORGE LATIMER. I'M ON BY PHONE. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME FINE. EXCELLENT. YES, WE CAN. OKAY. THANKS VERY MUCH. I'LL BE BRIEF. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LONG AGENDA, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE. UM, OBVIOUSLY THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE EVERYWHERE HAS BEEN C O V I D. AND, UH, AS WE'VE PRACTICED OVER THE COURSE OF NOW, UH, THE END OF 14 FOUR MONTHS, UH, WE'RE SEEING IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY, MAYBE NOT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, A CONTINUED DIMINUTION IN THE AMOUNT OF INFECTION, BUT IT'S NOT DRAMATIC, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY COMING DOWN. AND WE'RE ALSO SEEING A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF VACCINATIONS. THE NUMBERS WE HAVE, UH, THROUGH, UH, YESTERDAY SHOW THAT WE ARE UNDER 5,000 ACTIVE CASES IN THE COUNTY WHERE, UH, THREE MONTHS AGO WE WERE AT 11,500 ACTIVE CASES. 4,803, UH, IS THE MOST RECENT NUMBER THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE HAVE AS OF TODAY, OUR HOSPITALIZATION RATE. OUR HOSPITALIZATION NUMBER, THE MOST RECENT NUMBER IS 198 PEOPLE HOSPITALIZED FOR COVID. THREE MONTHS AGO WE WERE AT 588 PEOPLE. SO THAT'S A DROP OF ALMOST TWO THIRDS. AND, UH, THE FATALITIES WHILE THEY CONTINUE AND EVERY FATALITY IS A TRAGEDY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST UNFORTUNATELY A, UH, A DIFFICULT, UM, YOU KNOW, ACCUMULATION FROM WHAT HAPPENED IN THE BEGINNING OF, UH, LAST YEAR. BUT WE HAVE 2,236 WESTCHESTER RESIDENTS THAT HAVE DIED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS PANDEMIC. WE LOST 17 LAST WEEK. AND OF COURSE, EVERYONE IS A TRAGEDY. EVERYONE'S A STORY OF A HUSBAND OR A, OR A MOTHER, A SISTER, OR A COWORKER OR SOMEONE WE KNOW, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT, UH, THE, THE NUMBERS OF FATALITIES HAVE BEEN DROPPING THE WEEKLY NUMBER OF THE LAST FEW WEEKS. YOU KNOW, WE WON'T BE HAPPY TILL IT'S DOWN TO ZERO. BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE NUMBER OF ACTIVE CASES REALLY REPRESENTS THE BREADTH OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS AND FATALITIES IS THE DEPTH OF THE PANDEMIC. AND IT IS, IT IS CERTAINLY CLEAR TO ME THAT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING SERIOUSLY SICK AND DYING HAS BEEN REDUCING DRAMATICALLY, EVEN IF WE HAVEN'T HAD A MAJOR REDUCTION IN THE, IN THE INFECTIONS. UM, BUT, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS EVERY DAY IS ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, BULLET ALONG THE LINE, UH, THAT WE TRACK. AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE SOME IMPROVEMENT. WE'VE HAD A, UH, A VERY GOOD VACCINATION, UH, RECORD HERE IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY. UH, AS YOU KNOW, IN GREENBERG, YOU'RE CLOSE TO TWO OF OUR COUNTY SITES. THREE OF THEM, ACTUALLY. THE COUNTY CENTER, WHICH IS, UM, IS SITTING RIGHT ON THE BOARD OF GREENBERG AND WHITE PLAINS, AND THEN ON THE BOARD OF GREENBERG AND MOUNT PLEASANT AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE IS A VACCINATION CENTER. THAT ONE IS RUN DIRECTLY BY THE COUNTY. AND THEN NOT TOO FAR AWAY IN DOWNTOWN WHITE PLAINS, WE HAVE OUR WHITE PLAINS HEALTH CLINIC, UH, WHICH HAS ALSO BEEN CRANKING RESULTS. THE COUNTY CENTER'S BEEN OPEN NOW FOR OVER TWO MONTHS, APPROACHING THREE MONTHS. THEY'RE OPEN 11 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. AND THEY'VE VACCINATED, UH, A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UM, WELL OVER, UH, A HUNDRED AND, UH, 50,000. AND, UH, THE NUMBERS ALTOGETHER ARE ABOUT 40% OF WESTCHESTER [00:05:01] COUNTY HAS NOW BEEN FULLY VACCINATED. AND THAT NUMBER'S RISING. SO WE'RE, WE'RE REASONABLY OPTIMISTIC, EVEN WITH THE J J PAUSE THAT WE'VE ALL READ ABOUT, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, VACCINATE JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY WHO WANTS A VACCINATION. SOMETIME IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, MAYBE EARLY JUNE, MAYBE MID-JUNE, UH, THE PFIZER AND THE MODERNA SUPPLY SEEM TO CONTINUE TO BE IN GOOD ORDER. STILL NOT ENOUGH TO MEET THE, THE CURRENT DEMAND, BUT NOW WE'RE STARTING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FIND MUCH MORE AVAILABLE VACCINE OUT THERE, AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING A MUCH LESS DIFFICULTY REACHING IT. WE STILL NEED TO REACH HOME BOUND SENIORS, WHICH WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE JOHNSON AND JOHNSON ONE SHOT VACCINE WAS REALLY LOGISTICALLY HELPFUL TO US, AND BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THE HARDER TO REACH POPULATIONS, AND YOU HAVE TO GO INTO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO GO IN ONCE, GIVE THEM ONE SHOT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK AT A THREE WEEK OR FOUR WEEK INTERVAL TO GIVE 'EM THE SECOND SHOT. IT'S ALSO WHEN WE CREATE THESE, UM, UH, SATELLITE LOCATIONS, AND YOU'VE SEEN THEM. WE HAD ONE LAST WEEKEND AT THE GREENBERG HEALTH CENTER ON NORWOOD. UH, WE'VE HAD 'EM A COUPLE TIMES AT THE THEODORE YOUNG CENTER. UH, IT IS MORE, UH, COSTLY, LOGISTICALLY AND FINANCIALLY TO SET UP FOR, UH, MODERNA OR PFIZER. 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO SET IT UP AND THEN COME BACK AND SET THE WHOLE SYSTEM UP THREE TO FOUR WEEKS LATER. AND YOU HAVE REACHED 250 PEOPLE OR HOWEVER MANY VACCINE DOSES YOU HAVE. THE JOHNSON JOHNSON GAVE US THE ABILITY TO COMPLETE THE VACCINE WITH ONE SHOT, BUT IT'S ON PAUSE. AND WE'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT MEDICAL SCIENCE TELLS US, AND THAT IF THOSE VACCINES COME BACK ONLINE OR NOT, WE'LL, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. WE DO THINK THAT, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT THAT WE'LL SEE A BETTER END OF THE SPRING THAN WE SAW A YEAR AGO. WE'LL SEE A BETTER SUMMER THIS YEAR THAN WE SAW LAST YEAR. AND A BETTER FALL. UH, CERTAIN THINGS ARE GONNA OPEN, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOUR TOWN WILL MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT SERVICES YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO IN YOUR TOWN. SO, ARE WE MAKING THE SAME DECISIONS AT THE COUNTY? UM, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT THIS YEAR. SOME OF THE VARIOUS, UM, SERVICES OF THE COUNTY ARE OPEN. WE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, A DISCUSSION ABOUT GOLF LAST YEAR. WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, BICYCLE SUNDAY. WE HAD UNBELIEVABLE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE IN BOTH OF THOSE TWO RECREATIONS LAST YEAR, BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND TO DO SOMETHING AND GET OUT, WE WERE ABLE TO OPEN OUR FOUR POOLS AND, UH, OUR TWO BEACHES. UH, AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT SAFELY. NOTHING IN THOSE, UH, RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES ADVANCED THE SPREAD. IN FACT, WE HAD A DIMINUTION OF THE SPREAD DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME OF THE LATE SPRING AND THE SUMMER WHEN THESE SERVICES WERE OPEN. THIS YEAR, WE ARE GOING TO OPEN, UH, PLAYLAND, UH, WE'RE GONNA DO IT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE SEASON LAST WEEK OF JUNE. WE'LL CLOSE IT EXACTLY ON LABOR DAY, BUT WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT AND WE'RE GONNA OPERATE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. I WON'T BORE YOU WITH THE DETAILS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, UH, WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT A TRY. BUT ANY SERVICE, IF WE FIND THAT IT'S ADVANCING THE SPREAD, WE WILL SHUT IT DOWN SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THIS BECAUSE OF IDEOLOGY. WE'RE DOING THIS 'CAUSE WE THINK WE CAN MANAGE IT. AND IF WE CAN'T MANAGE IT, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO SET A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE AND WE'RE GONNA SHUT IT DOWN. WE ARE STILL NOT AUTHORIZING ETHNIC FESTIVALS. THERE'S USUALLY A COUPLE EVERY YEAR AT THE RIDGE ROAD PARK IN YOUR TOWN. WE USUALLY HAVE THE IRISH AMERICAN, UH, ORGANIZATION MEET THERE. AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ARAB AMERICAN ORGANIZATION MEET THERE. AND MOST OF THEM, MOST OF THE FESTIVALS ARE OVER AT KENSICO DAM PLAZA. WE ARE GOING TO CANCEL THEM FOR A SECOND STRAIGHT YEAR. WE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO MANAGE A POOL OR A BEACH, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MEET A MANAGE AN ETHNIC FESTIVAL. PEOPLE ARE THERE FOR THE FOOD AND THE, THE MUSIC AND THE DANCE, AND THE CLOSENESS AND THE CAMARADERIE, AND, UH, IT JUST DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF IT. SO WE'RE GONNA HOPE THAT BY NEXT SUMMER, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'LL HAVE THOSE THINGS BACK AND FORTH AGAIN IN FULL FORCE. AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING, UH, FIREWORKS OUT OF PLAYLAND OR KENSICO DAM PLAZA. 'CAUSE ONCE AGAIN, PEOPLE CLUSTER FOR THAT. AND, AND THERE'S REALLY NOWHERE, PARTICULARLY AT NIGHT WHEN YOU FIRE PULL UP FIREWORKS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT. BUT WE'RE REASONABLY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE ARE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON COVID. EVERY TOWN HAS ITS CHALLENGE, AND CERTAINLY GREENBURG IS THE BIGGEST TOWN IN THE COUNTY, HAS THE BIGGEST OF CHALLENGES. UH, WE HAVE OTHER PARK FACILITIES WITHIN THE BORDERS OF YOUR TOWN OR THE VILLAGES WITHIN YOUR TOWN. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO DO BETTER EVERY YEAR TO MANAGE IT. THERE'VE BEEN IT DAYS AND CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE AT MACY PARK OR ON THE TRAILWAY, UH, YOU MIGHT SEE SOMETHING THAT, THAT ISN'T APPROPRIATE. UH, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE IT. AND YOU HAVE THE SAME CHALLENGE THAT WE DO, MAKING SURE EVERYBODY WEARS MASKS WITH THE FATIGUE THAT THERE IS AND ALL THOSE THINGS IN THE UPDATE. OBVIOUSLY. I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS, UH, MR. SUPERVISOR, WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR THEM. I ALSO WANT TO GIVE YOU THE UPDATE THAT LIKE YOU, WE'VE COMPLETED OUR POLICE REFORM TASK FORCE EFFORT. WE HAD MAYO BARTLETT AND LEEROY FRAZIER AS THE CO-CHAIRS OF IT. UH, THEY IN A COMMITTEE THAT WAS VERY EXTENSIVE, LOTS OF PEOPLE INVOLVED. UH, WE HAD, UH, PEOPLE FROM WITHIN THE GREENBERG COMMUNITY THAT SERVED ON THE BOARD, UH, SERVED ON OUR TASK FORCE. AND, UH, THEY CAME BACK WITH 51 RECOMMENDATIONS, SEVEN OF WHICH WERE STATE LEGISLATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, EIGHT OF WHICH REPRESENT, UH, COUNTY BOARD OF LEGISLATOR LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS. AND [00:10:01] THEN 36 OF THEM FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF EXECUTIVE ORDER OR DEPARTMENTAL POLICY, WHICH IN THEORY ARE STROKE OF THE PEN BY EITHER MYSELF OR THE POLICE COMMISSIONER. NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THEM. I'LL JUST MENTION THE TWO BIGGEST ONES. ONE OF THEM IS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION, AND THAT WOULD BE TO CREATE A CIVILIAN ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE, WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD. UH, THAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION, WHICH IS RECOMMENDED BY THE TASK FORCE BEFORE THE BOARD OF LEGISLATORS WILL REQUIRE SOME WORK AND SOME STUDY. UH, IT IS MOVING INTO THE AREA OF CIVILIAN REVIEW OF POLICE ACTIVITY, WHICH IS ALWAYS VERY CONTROVERSIAL. AND, UH, TO DO IT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT. THERE'LL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WORK ON LANGUAGE AND DRAFT AND SO FORTH. AND THE BOARD OF LEGISLATORS TAKES ON THAT CHALLENGE. THE OTHER BIG ISSUE IS AN EXECUTIVE BRANCH FUNCTION, WHICH IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CREATE AND STAFF AND PROPERLY ADMINISTER A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, SO THAT WHEN CERTAIN KINDS OF INCIDENTS HAPPEN, A A TEAM OF QUALIFIED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS RESPOND RATHER THAN POLICE. AND THE POLICE THEMSELVES HAVE SAID THIS IS WOULD BE, UH, UH, AN ESSENTIAL SITUATION. YOU MAY REMEMBER THE STORY IN ROCHESTER, NEW YORK, ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WINTER WHO WAS NAKED, AND HE WAS OUT IN THE STREET AND HE WASN'T, YOU KNOW, IN PROPER CONTROL OF HIMSELF, UM, HAD HAD, YOU KNOW, METAL ISSUES. AND THE RESPONDENT POLICE WOUND UP, YOU KNOW, IT WOUND UP BEING A, UH, UH, AN ACCELERATED SITUATION THAT ENDED IN HIM BEING SHOT KILLED. SO, UH, WE KNOW IF WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A TEAM LIKE THAT, A COUPLE OF TEAMS LIKE THAT, FUND IT, MAKE IT AVAILABLE, MAY RESPOND TO THE NINE 11 ASKS BY ANY POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY. UH, THAT'S A BETTER, MORE, UH, INTELLIGENT WAY TO HANDLE THOSE PARTICULAR TYPES OF INCIDENTS. SO THOSE ARE JUST TWO OF THE SUGGESTIONS. I KNOW YOU'VE HAD MANY IN YOUR, UH, IN YOUR REFORM TASK FORCE, AND, UH, OUR TEAMS OBVIOUSLY SHOULD GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN INTERFACE ON THOSE ISSUES. UH, AND THEN THE FINAL POINT I'LL MENTION, AND BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT MANY OTHER THINGS TO DO, WE DID PASS THE COUNTY BUDGET, UH, BACK IN DECEMBER, WHICH REDUCED, UH, PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW. UH, NOT KNOWING THE SPECIFIC IMPACT ON GREENBERG BECAUSE OF EQUALIZATION RATE AND, AND ASSESSMENT ROLE AND SO FORTH. UH, BUT THE GENERAL, UH, SITUATION, WHAT WE COULD CONTROL WAS WE CUT THE COUNTY PROPERTY TAX LEVY, UH, FOR THE SECOND STRAIGHT YEAR BY A MILLION DOLLARS. SO WE CUT IT A MILLION DOLLARS, THEN WE CUT IT A MILLION DOLLARS MORE, AND THAT'S OUR SECOND, UH, TAX REDUCTION. NOW, WITH THE MONEY COMING IN FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THAT WILL ENABLE US TO DO CERTAIN THINGS LIKE MAINTAIN THOSE, UH, FOOD INSECURITY PROGRAMS WHERE WE CAN FEED PEOPLE, UH, TO BE AT THE READY TO HELP WITH EVICTION PREVENTION, WHICH IS GONNA BE A BIG ISSUE COMING UP. IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A FLOOD, UH, WITHIN A MONTH IF THE, THAT THE DEADLINE STAYS, THAT. UH, ALSO I HELP TO SMALL BUSINESSES. WE GOT A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF US. SO WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS, WE, WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WANNA BE A GOOD PARTNER WITH GREENBURG AND THE VILLAGES WITHIN GREENBURG. UH, WE WANT TO TRY TO BE HELPFUL. WE DON'T VIEW OUR JOB AS WE HAVE A CORPORATE ENTITY AND YOU HAVE A CORPORATE ENTITY, AND WE'RE AT ODDS WITH EACH OTHER. WE VIEW IT AS WE'RE SIBLINGS IN THE FAMILY. WE HAVE DIFFERENT TASKS, BUT WE CAN FIND COMMON GROUND. AND, UH, WE WORK COOPERATIVELY, UH, HOPEFULLY TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AND SUCCESSFULLY. SO. SO WITH THAT, MR. SUPERVISOR, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. AND SINCE I CAN'T SEE YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE HOOK IS COMING OUT, SO JUST TELL ME TO CLAM UP WHEN YOU'RE READY. I I HAVE ONE QUE I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, UH, THE TOWN BOARD WE'VE BEEN DEBATING, UM, WHETHER TO OPEN REOPEN, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN HALL. WE'VE ALSO, UM, UH, TO THE PUBLIC AND TO EMPLOYEES. WE'VE ALSO, UM, BEEN ASKED BY, UH, SENIOR CITIZENS IF WE COULD, IF THEY COULD HAVE INDOOR, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMMING. WE HAVE OUTDOOR PROGRAM PROGRAMMING RIGHT NOW. UH, THE BOARD WANTS TO DO WHAT IS, UM, SAFE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE SAFE AND AND HEALTHY. AND I'M WONDERING IF THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH COULD GIVE US SOME, YOU KNOW, GUIDANCE, YOU KNOW, UM, YOUS THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW. UM, ARE ALL EMPLOYEES REQUIRED TO GO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, TO WORK OR, OR ARE, IS THE PUBLIC ALLOWED INSIDE THE BUILDING? UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? HOW WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE HANDLE IT? BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING, LIKE A LOT OF CALLS FROM SENIORS WHO THEY'VE ALL BEEN VACCINATED, RIGHT, BEEN VACCINATED, AND THEY'RE JUST FRUSTRATED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, ENJOY THE INDOOR ACTIVITIES. AND WE'RE JUST REALLY, I'M NOT SAYING ONE ANSWER IS RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT IF THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD GIVE US GUIDANCE, IT WOULD HELP US MAKE, UH, THE RIGHT DECISION. WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT APPLY. FIRST OF ALL, UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AT YOUR DISPOSAL. UH, IF, UH, YOU WANT TO, UH, GIVE US A CALL, UH, TOMORROW AND CALL MY OFFICE AND WE'LL CONNECT TO DR. ALER SO THAT SHE CAN EITHER HERSELF OR ASSIGN SOMEBODY TO MEET WITH YOUR PEOPLE, LOOK AT YOUR VARIOUS, UH, FACILITIES AND DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BEST [00:15:01] STRATEGY. A LOT OF THIS COMES DOWN TO THE PHYSICAL LAYOUT OF THE VARIOUS PLACES. THERE ARE SOME PLACES THAT ARE EASIER TO MANAGE INDOOR ACTIVITY THAN OTHERS. UH, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ADVICE OF THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO WORK WITH YOU. AND YOU CAN TRIGGER THAT BY CALLING MY OFFICE TOMORROW, UH, AT 9 9 5 29 10. UH, OUR COUNTY STRUCTURE, OUR COUNTY OFFICE BUILDING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT A BIG ASTERISK ATTACHED TO IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN APPOINTMENT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE SORT OF THE JUST WALK RIDE IN SHOW UP SOMEPLACE. IN FAIRNESS, A TOWN OR VILLAGE OFFICE GETS MUCH MORE NORMAL PUBLIC ATTENTION THAN A COUNTY OFFICE BUILDING DOES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, WHICH HAS A LOT OF WALK-IN TRAFFIC. BUT MOST OF OUR OFFICES ARE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, D P W PLANNING, DEPARTMENT, BUDGET, LAW, FINANCE. AND WHILE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT COME IN FROM THE OUTSIDE, THEY USUALLY COME IN FOR MEETINGS AND SO FORTH. WHEREAS I DO KNOW THAT IN A, IN A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THERE'S MUCH MORE OF I STOP IN TO PAY MY TAXES, I STOP IN TO GET A PERMIT FOR SOMETHING. UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, I THINK COMES DOWN TO THE LOGISTICS. AND LIKE ANY RETAIL, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, FACILITY IN CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN IN DIFFERENT OTHER COMMUNITIES, THERE'S PLASTIC GUARDS IN PLACE. THERE'S, UH, TEMPERATURE CHECKS WHEN YOU WALK IN THE DOOR. THERE'S HAND SANITIZING AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS, THE THINGS THAT, THAT HELP MAKE YOU SAFE. AND THEN OF COURSE, MORE AND MORE OF US NOW HAVE BEEN VACCINATED PROPERLY IN, UH, TWICE AND, AND GOING THROUGH THE TWO WEEK, UH, PROTOCOL. SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A CHANCE TO OPEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, THAN, THAN WE HAVE DONE. AND PERHAPS YOU HAVE DONE. AS FAR AS THE SENIORS ARE CONCERNED, IT'S A VERY MIXED BAG. THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE OPENED UP TO INDOOR ACTIVITY. IT'S LIMITED IN, IN NUMBER AND SOCIALLY DISTANCED INSIDE THE ROOM. SO IF YOU GET A ROOM OF A CERTAIN SIZE, THAT MIGHT NORMALLY HOLD A HUNDRED SENIORS WHERE THEY'RE ONLY LETTING 40 IN AND THEY'RE SOCIALLY DISTANCED, UH, NEAR ROCHELLE LARGEMONT RYE, WHITE PLAINS ARE OPEN FOR SENIOR INDOOR PROGRAMS, AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY CONSULT WITH, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AS TO HOW THEY'VE DONE IT. BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ALSO HAVE NOT OPENED UP, UH, ARMON AND, AND NORTH WHITE PLAINS HAVE NOT OPENED UP TO THE PUBLIC. TUCKAHOE IS STILL DOING THINGS, AND BRONXVILLE IS STILL DOING THINGS REMOTELY ON ZOOM RATHER THAN IN PERSON, UH, IN THE LOCATION. YONKERS STILL HAS THEIR SENIOR CENTERS SHUT DOWN. SO THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE CASE BY CASE DECISION, AND AGAIN, I FALL BACK ON, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE LOGISTICS OF THE, OF THE GATHERING PLACES THAT YOU HAVE. AND THAT MIGHT BE A BENEFIT IF OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT WALKED THROUGH WITH YOUR LOGISTICS PEOPLE, AND THEY CAN SAY, IF WE DID THIS, IF WE DID THAT, IF WE DO THIS, IF WE DO THAT, IS THIS OKAY? YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF DISCUSSION MIGHT GET YOU TO A POINT WHERE YOU CAN JUSTIFY SOMETHING'S HAPPENING, IF NOT EVERYTHING THAT YOU NORMALLY HAVE. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, I I HAD A QUESTION. GEORGE, THIS IS KEN JONES. HOW ARE YOU? HI, KEN. HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD, THANK YOU. UM, I PARTICIPATED IN THE COUNTY POLICE TASK FORCE COUNTY POLICE PERFORM TASK FORCE, UH, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEGAL AID SOCIETY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, UM, TO TRY AND ADDRESS THE MENTAL HEALTH OF POLICE OFFICERS AS THEY RISE THROUGH THE RANKS IN THE DEPARTMENT. AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER, UM, ANY DEFINITIVE DECISION HAD BEEN MADE WITH REGARD, UH, TO THAT YET. WELL, ONE OF THE, THE, THE DIFFICULTIES WE HAVE, KEN, IN THE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT, IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WALK IN THE DOOR, THE, UH, THE EXISTING WORKFORCE, UH, IS NOT AS DIVERSE AS WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE. AND THE EFFORTS TO MAKE IT MORE DIVERSE IS DIFFICULT, TAKES TIME. UH, OUR, OUR PROVISIONS ARE THAT WE CANNOT BRING IN AS A TRANSFER A SERGEANT, LIEUTENANT, CAPTAIN FROM ANOTHER LOCATION. UH, WE HAVE TO PROMOTE FROM WITHIN. WE OBVIOUSLY CAN BRING IN POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE EXISTING SWORN OFFICERS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS HIRE NEW PEOPLE. AND SO WE PUT AN EFFORT IN, IN FACT, WE'VE ADVERTISED IN BLACK WESTCHESTER AND WESTCHESTER COUNTY PRESS AND, UH, WESTCHESTER HISPANIC PUBLICATIONS OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO TRY TO RECRUIT POLICE AND OTHER, UH, FOLKS OF COLOR TO, UH, YOU KNOW, APPLY FOR CIVIL SERVICE TESTS. AND OF COURSE, THE CIVIL SERVICE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, CREATES A SITUATION FOR US. WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT SYSTEM. WE JUST CAN'T SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, HIRE PETE AND JANE, AND THAT WILL HELP DIVERSIFY US. BUT YOUR POINT ABOUT THE RISING THROUGH THE RANKS IS IMPORTANT. AND WHAT WE LOOK AT THAT WE THINK, UH, IS, IS THE BEST TOOL WE HAVE IS IN-SERVICE TRAINING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN POSITIONS, INCLUDING MANAGERIAL POSITIONS. SO THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE ACADEMY TRAINING AS THE END OF THE LINE, OR SOME LIKE BOUTIQUE TRAINING. LIKE IF YOU GET A CANINE DOG, THEN YOU GO THROUGH TRAINING TO HANDLE THE CANINE DOG, BUT RATHER TO HAVE ONGOING IN-SERVICE [00:20:01] EDUCATION AND REINFORCEMENT OF THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT'VE LEARNED IN THE ACADEMY AFTER YOU, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU'RE OUT ON THE STREET FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, YOU MIGHT MOVE UP TO SERGEANT OR PATROL AND SO FORTH, UH, ON IMPLICIT BIAS AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE. THE ONE OTHER ELEMENT THAT MAKES OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE POLICE THE ROADS AND WE POLICE THE PARKS OF WESTCHESTER COUNTY, AND IN THE WINTERTIME, THE PARKS ATTENDANCE DROPS DOWN VERY LOW. AND, YOU KNOW, POLICING THE ROADWAYS IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM POLICING THE STREETS. SO IF YOU ARE POLICING, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, AND EVEN MORE SO IN THE BIGGER CITIES OF THE COUNTY, WE HAVE URBAN POPULATIONS AND WHITE PLAINS AND, UH, AND SO FORTH. IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO, UM, UH, UH, SORT OF COMPARE WHAT WE GO THROUGH, UH, UH, AND, AND WE NEED TO TRAIN TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH STREET ISSUES THAT COME UP. AND THAT'S OFTENTIMES WHERE THESE INCIDENTS OF BIAS AND, AND FATALITY HAS OCCURRED. WE DO PROVIDE STREET POLICING IN MOUNT KISCO AND IN COURTLAND, COURTLAND, YOU KNOW, DOES NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT MINORITY POPULATION. MOUNT KISCO HAS A SIGNIFICANT LATINX POPULATION. SO, UM, WE'VE GOT OUR WORK CUT OUT FOR US, KEN, UH, AND, UM, IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME FOR US TO, TO MAKE THE DEPARTMENT AS DIVERSE AS IT SHOULD BE. MM-HMM. . WELL, MY MY QUESTION THOUGH, UM, WHEN, WHEN WE WERE HAVING OUR DISCUSSIONS, WE DISCUSSED THIS IDEA THAT THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OFFICERS IS REALLY NOT ADDRESSED ONCE THEY LEAVE THE ACADEMY. UM, UNLESS THERE'S SOME HORRIBLE INCIDENT THAT HAS TO BE REACTED TO. AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO, UH, SEE WHETHER COULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN SOME SORT OF REGULAR SCREENING OR, UH, SUPPORT BOTH PEER SUPPORT AND PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT FOR OFFICERS TO ADDRESS THEIR OWN MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES BASED UPON INCIDENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE SEEN WHILE THEY RISE THROUGH THE RANKS. UH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING. UM, SO IS THERE, IS THERE ANY, ANYTHING DEFINITIVE, UH, COME OUT WITH RESPECT TO THAT? WELL, THINK WHAT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, DOES RELATE TO THAT, AND IT RELATES TO, UH, WHAT WE DO AS INTERNAL POLICY. I'D HAVE TO DIG OUT THAT PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION. MM-HMM. , THERE ARE, JUST TO BE NUMERICAL ABOUT IT, 36 RECOMMENDATIONS. SURE. 37 THAT INVOLVE EITHER, UH, MY AUTHORITY OR THE COMMISSIONER OF POLICE AUTHORITY. I THINK ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS DOES FACE ON THIS, I THINK PROBABLY THE KIND OF CONVERSATION WE SHOULD HAVE OFFLINE. SO IF YOU WANNA GIVE ME A CALL, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN CHAT ABOUT IT IN SOME GREATER DEPTH, BUT YOU, YOU DO RAISE, I UNDERSTAND THE POINT MORE CLEARLY NOW, WE, YOU DO RAISE THE POINT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AS PEOPLE MOVE UP INTO LEADERSHIP POSITIONS AS WELL AND HOW THEY PERFORM, UH, AS SERGEANTS, LIEUTENANTS, CAPTAINS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO THAT, BUT I DO THINK MY EARLIER POINT THOUGH ABOUT IN-SERVICE TRAINING DOESN'T MATTER. ABSOLUTELY. YOU'RE SCREENING AND YEAH, NO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SCREENING AND THINGS THAT, UH, WILL HELP US SPOT SITUATIONS OF PROBLEMS, AND I THINK THAT IS A VERY LEGITIMATE POINT. THANK YOU, GEORGE. I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT, UM, THE NEW BRONX RIVER PARKWAY, UH, BIKE PATHS, UM, GOING FROM SCARSDALE TO HARTSDALE. UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT OFFICIALLY OPEN, HAVE STARTED, UH, USING IT. AND THE REVIEWS ARE FANTASTIC. YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR, UM, FOR MANY, UM, YEARS OR DECADES. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF, UM, THIS AS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT OF REALLY ENHANCES, UM, UH, RECREATION AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE, UM, IN OUR TOWN AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF CYCLISTS ARE GONNA REALLY, YOU KNOW, LOVE IT. THEY, THEY REALLY HAVE DONE, THE CONTRACTORS HAVE DONE A, A REALLY FANTASTIC JOB. IT LOOKS REALLY, UM, ATTRACTIVE AND IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE NICEST PARTS OF THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY BIKEWAY. WELL, WE APPRECIATE HEARING THAT. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DID ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING GET HERE, THE CREDIT AS WELL. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ON OUR LIST OF THINGS TO DO, THE SOUTH COUNTY TRAILWAY, UH, THAT, THAT NEEDS ATTENTION. WE'VE DONE SOME GOOD WORK IN THE NORTH COUNTY TRAILWAY, UH, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. UH, AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE DID THE SPRAIN RIDGE POOLS THAT ARE ON THE, UH, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG SLASH HASTINGS BORDER WITH YONKERS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS, AND I THINK WITH THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, THE MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, DO MORE OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS. NOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, FOR MANY OF US ARE ELECTION YEARS, SO WE CAN'T PRESUME THAT WE'RE GONNA BE HERE A YEAR FROM TODAY TO IMPLEMENT THESE THINGS, BUT THAT WOULD BE PART OF MY, UH, MY EFFORTS IF I'M, UH, IF I CONTINUE THIS WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY. GREAT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? GEORGE, IT'S FRANCIS. UH, ELLEN WILL SHARE IT WITH YOU, I'M SURE, A SCREENSHOT OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T COME ON ON CAMERA. UHOH , UHOH . I, I ALWAYS THOUGHT, I ALWAYS THOUGHT I HAD A FACE FOR RADIO, SO I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO GO. , [00:25:01] , YOU'VE BEEN VERY GENEROUS. YOU'VE BEEN GENEROUS WITH YOUR TIME, AND I THINK I OUGHT SELF-CONTROL. AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT, THAT THE BOARD, UH, WOULD LIKE MY ATTENTION TO, BY ALL MEANS, FEEL FREE TO CALL ME. UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE GREAT REPRESENTATION OF MARY JANE HINKY AND OPERATOR WILLIAMS, WHO'S BEEN A FABULOUS LEGISLATOR, AND, UH, I'M SURE THAT, UH, THAT REPRESENTATION WILL CONTINUE. BUT ANYTIME YOU NEED MY ATTENTION, JUST REACH OUT AND I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GEORGE. THANK YOU, GEORGE. VERY GOOD. THANK, THANK YOU ALL. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. GOODNIGHT, GEORGE. THANKS. THANKS. UM, NEXT ON THE AGENDA, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM, UH, THE WESTCHESTER COLLABORATIVE, UH, THEATER PEOPLE OF CO COLOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FESTIVAL. UH, THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WE COULD, UM, HEAR THE PRESENTATION NOW, NOW YOU KNOW ALAN. YES. ALAN LUTMAN IS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, COORDINATOR OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS INITIATIVE. AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, MICHEL SINCLAIR HERE. . OKAY. ALAN, YEAH. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU, PAUL. AND, UH, THANK YOU TO THE BOARD ON BOARD FOR INVITING US TO DO A PRESENTATION TONIGHT. UH, MY NAME IS ALAN LWIN. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THE FOUNDER OF WESTCHESTER COLLABORATIVE THEATER, W C T. AND, UH, WE DO WANT TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT AN EXCITING UPCOMING THEATER EVENT THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PRODUCING, BUT WE FELT WE WOULD USE THIS OCCASION TO ALSO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT OUR THEATER COMPANY, UM, AS A, AS A WHOLE. SO, W C T IS A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. WE'RE LOCATED IN THE RIVERFRONT SECTION OF THE VILLAGE OF SANE. WE ARE A NEW PLAY DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, AND, UH, THAT'S KIND OF UNIQUE IN THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER. WE DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY OTHER THEATER COMPANY IN THE COUNTY THAT IS TOTALLY DEDICATED TO DEVELOPING AND PRODUCING NEW WORKS FOR THE THEATER. SO THAT GIVES US A VERY SPECIAL NICHE. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR 11TH YEAR, AND, UM, WE HAVE A, FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS, BEEN WORKING OUT OF A BLACK BOX THEATER SPACE, UH, IN THE VILLAGE OF . IT'S A SPACE THAT HOLDS ABOUT 50 PEOPLE. IT'S VERY SMALL AND INTIMATE, AND IT EASILY CONVERTS FROM THEATER TO MUSIC OR OTHER KIND OF PERFORMANCE PLATFORMS. UH, IT'S A, A SPACE THAT HAS INTIMATE, UH, SEATING AND, UH, IT'S, UH, GOT PLENTIFUL PARKING. WE'RE ADJACENT TO METRO NORTH, SO THERE'S, UH, EASY PARKING FOR PEOPLE WHO COME TO OUR THEATER. UH, WE ALSO RENTED OUT FOR PRIVATE FUNCTIONS WHEN WE'RE NOT USING IT OURSELVES FOR EITHER AUDITIONS OR REHEARSALS OR PERFORMANCES. UH, WHAT WE DO IS WE ENGAGE IN A WORKSHOP PROCESS TO INCUBATE NEW WORKS FOR THE THEATER. UM, WE, UH, HAVE, UH, WELL, WE, WE, WE DON'T DO REVIVAL, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE A DEATH OF A SALESMAN OR VIRGINIA WOLF OR MY FAIR LADY, NO, NO, NO, NO, THAT'S NOT US. WE, WE HAVE THIS WORKSHOP PROCESS THAT MEETS TWICE A MONTH. WE HAVE ABOUT 130 MEMBERS WHO REPRESENT THE ENTIRE, UH, TRI-STATE AREA. AND, UM, AT THESE WORKSHOPS, WE REPLAY AND EVALUATE THEM AND CRITIQUE THEM. AND WE'RE VERY PROUD BECAUSE, UM, SOME OF OUR PLAYS HAVE NOT ONLY BEEN PRODUCED BY OUR COMPANY, BUT HAVE GONE ON TO PRODUCTIONS NATIONWIDE AND REALLY KIND OF EXPLODED ON THE SCENE. AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THEM STARTED WITH US. UM, WE ALSO TAKE PRIDE IN THE RACIAL AND, AND ETHNIC INCLUSIVITY OF OUR COMPANY. UH, WE, WE ARE KIND OF IN THE FOREFRONT OF THAT AS WELL. AND THE PROGRAM THAT I WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN A MINUTE, I THINK REFLECTS A LOT OF THAT IN ADDITION TO THE THEATER WORK THAT WE DO. AND IT IS PLENTIFUL AND, UH, IT IS A RIGOROUS PROGRAM. WE ALSO HAVE A VERY ACTIVE MUSIC PROGRAM FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTO JAZZ OR, OR MUSIC. UH, WE HAVE WEEKEND JAZZ NIGHTS. WE'VE HAD SUCH ILLUSTRIOUS MUSICAL TALENTS AS, UH, VALERIE CAPERS AND RAY BLUE, AND ALEXIS COLE, SHEILA JORDAN, MARLENE PL, K K J DINNER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. THESE NAMES MAY MEAN SOMETHING TO YOU IF YOU'RE INTO MUSIC AND JAZZ OR MAY NOT, BUT THEY ARE WORLD-CLASS, UH, MUSICIANS. AND, UH, THEY'VE COME TO OUR, OUR SPACE. UH, WE FOUND THAT INADVERTENTLY OUR THEATER HAS AMAZING ACOUSTICS. UH, IT'S AN OLD CABINET MAKING FACTORY, AND THE SOUND JUST, JUST BOUNCES OFF THE WALL. AND, UM, IT'S KIND OF A, A HUSHED, UH, JAZZ CABARET ENVIRONMENT. BECAUSE WE'RE A BLACK BOX THEATER, WE CAN EASILY MOVE THINGS AROUND AND CONVERT FROM THEATER TO MUSIC TO OTHER TYPES OF [00:30:01] PLATFORMS VERY EASILY. SO, UH, IT, IT WORKS VERY WELL FOR US. OUR WEBSITE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT US, IS WC THEATER WITH AN ER, WITH AN ER.ORG. AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET ON OUR MAILING LIST TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE THEATER, UH, PLEASE LOG ON. AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMPANY THERE AS WELL, UH, FOR THE PAST, I GUESS, YEAR OR SO, UH, LIKE EVERY OTHER ARTS ORGANIZATION WE'VE CONVERTED INTO, UH, VIRTUAL PRESENTATION MODE. WE'VE DONE THREE VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL, UH, LIVE STREAMED EVENTS OVER THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS OR SO, AND WE'RE POSITIONED TO DO SOME MORE. UH, THIS, UM, HUDSON VALLEY NEW VOICES FESTIVAL, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN A SECOND, IS ONE OF THOSE PRODUCTIONS. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOUR THING IS THEATER OR MUSIC, UH, CHECK US OUT. UH, WE'RE NOT THAT FAR FROM YOU GUYS, SO IT'S A SHORT DRIVE UP. IT'S EASY PARKING, AS I SAID, IT'S A FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT, AND, AND I THINK YOU'LL HAVE A GOOD TIME. NOW, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY IS SOMETHING CALLED THE HUDSON VALLEY, UH, NEW PLAY FESTIVAL. IT'S A THREE-PART READING SERIES THAT'S GOING TO BE STREAMED ONLINE IN MAY AND JUNE. PART ONE OF IT IS GOING TO BE A GEN Z READING, FEATURING PLAYWRIGHTS AND ACTORS FROM LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE HUDSON VALLEY REGION AND COLLEGES AS WELL, EXTERNAL PURCHASE, ET CETERA. UH, THAT'LL BE IN, IN, UH, MAY. PART TWO WILL BE A VINTAGE VOICES READING, WHICH WILL FEATURE SENIOR CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS OF, OF, OF HOMES IN THE AREA TELLING THEIR LIFE STORIES. AND IT'LL BE DRAMATIZED BY COMPANY ACTORS. PART THREE IS, UH, PEOPLE OF COLOR READING, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF FEATURE TONIGHT AND TALK TO YOU IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT. AND THAT WILL FEATURE, UH, PLAYWRIGHTS AND ACTORS, UH, FROM THROUGHOUT THE, THE REGION. UH, SOME WILL BE, UH, VOICES THAT ARE PART OF OUR COMPANY, AND WE'RE DOING OUTREACH TO TRY TO BE AS INCLUSIVE AS WE CAN TO INCORPORATE, UH, NEWER VOICES AND PEOPLE WHO MAYBE HAVEN'T HAD AS MUCH OF A CHANCE TO HAVE THEIR WORK SEEN AND DEVELOPED. SO, UM, THIS WILL BE, AS I SAID, DONE THROUGH MAY AND JUNE. UH, THE PRODUCER OF THE THIRD ITERATION OF THIS, THE PEOPLE OF COLOR READING, IS MISHA SINCLAIR. MISHA IS A MEMBER OF W C T. SHE'S A, AN AMAZINGLY GIFTED PLAYWRIGHT, AND, UH, SOMEONE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE IN OUR COMPANY, AND SHE'S TAKEN ON THE PRODUCING FUNCTION IN THIS CASE, OF THE, UH, PEOPLE OF COLOR READING. SO I'LL ASK ISHA TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR TONIGHT AND WHAT WE'RE INVITING YOU TO DO, UH, IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT AND HELPING US MOVE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. MISHA, GOODNIGHT EVERYONE. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ARE 10 TO 12 MINUTE PLAYS OR MONOLOGUES FOR THE PEOPLE OF COLOR FESTIVAL. AND I'M HOPING THAT EVERYONE ON HERE WILL SPREAD THE WORD TO ANYONE THAT THEY CAN, EXCUSE ME, ANYONE THEY CAN, THAT THEY KNOW WHO CONSIDERS THEMSELVES A PERSON OF COLOR. UH, WESTCHESTER COLLABORATIVE THEATER IS VERY DIVERSE, VERY INCLUSIVE, AND I ASK PAUL FINER IF HE COULD ALLOW US TO SPEAK IN THIS VENUE TONIGHT, SO THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF PULL THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE OF COLOR TO OUR THEATER COMPANY. UM, I THINK THE ARTS ENABLE US TO, TO EXPRESS OURSELVES, ENABLE US TO COME TOGETHER IN A POSITIVE WAY. AND, UM, I I REALLY HOPE THAT, UH, WE CAN, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, WITH ALL THE, WITH ALL THE PEOPLE HERE ON THIS, UH, PLATFORM RIGHT NOW WHO CAN SPREAD THE WORD FOR US. TERRIFIC. I JUST WANNA REALLY THANK YOU, UM, SO MUCH FOR, UH, DOING THIS. I THINK THIS IS A TREMENDOUS, UH, ASSET TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WESTCHESTER COUNTY. AND I'LL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO HELP SPREAD, UM, YOU KNOW, SPREAD THE WORD. THE ARTS ARE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TERRENCE, UH, UH, JACKSON IS OUR NEW COMMISSIONER OF, UM, AT THE THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER. AND TERRANCE, MAYBE YOU COULD ALSO, UM, UM, WORK WITH, UM, AND, UM, ALAN AND, UM, IN PUBLICIZING, UH, THIS, AND ALSO TRYING TO, UM, ATTRACT, UM, EMERGING ARTISTS BECAUSE THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF, UH, TALENT IN, UM, IN GREENBERG. AND WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE PROVIDE THEM WITH THE ABILITY OF, UM, ONE DAY BECOMING, UH, FUTURE. UM, OSCAR, UH, WINNERS AND ACADEMY AWARD WINNERS AWARD, THANK YOU. OH, PRIZE WINNERS DEADLINE. THE SUBMISSION DEADLINE FOR THE PEOPLE OF COLOR FESTIVAL IS, UM, APRIL 19TH. WE MAY EXTEND THAT. UM, THE WEBSITE [00:35:01] TO SUBMIT ANY PLACE IS VERY SIMPLE. I MEAN, SORRY. THE, THE, UH, UH, EMAIL LOCATION TO SUBMIT THE PLAYS IS VERY SIMPLE. IT'S PEOPLE OF COLOR FESTIVAL, PEOPLE OF COLOR FESTIVAL 20 TWENTY1@GMAIL.COM. SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE, PLEASE, PLEASE ASK THEM TO SUBMIT THEIR PLAYS OR MONOLOGUES OR SPOKEN WORD. WE'RE LOOKING FOR NEW VOICES TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND, UH, AND, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER DURING THIS TIME OF COVID WHERE IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO, UH, HAVE HUMAN CONNECTIVITY. SO HE'S ALL SICK AND CONGESTED. ALAN OR TERRANCE . THANK YOU. I HEAR SOMEONE'S TV, GREAT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. TERRIFIC. I HAVE MY NAILS. OKAY, NEXT ON THE AGENDA, UM, WE HAVE, UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS? I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE OTHER, UM, UM, NEXT WE HAVE THE APPOINTMENT OF, UM, UH, OUR COMMISSIONER OF, UM, THE THEORY ON COMMISSIONER. NO, NO, NO. PAUL, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. UH OH, NO, WE TOOK THAT OFF. I'M SORRY. WE TOOK THAT OFF. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. TURN IT OFF. LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA. SURE. WE HAVE A DECISION WE'RE GONNA DO LATER, RIGHT. AND, UM, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING [ To consider a Local Law amending Chapter 380 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh, entitled “Noise," to restrict/prohibit the use of leaf blowers in the Town of Greenburgh while allowing their use during specified spring and fall clean-up periods (Adjourned from Town Board Meeting of 3/10/2021)] IS ON A LOCAL LAW, AMENDING CHAPTER THREE 80 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED NOISE TO RESTRICT, PROHIBIT THE USE OF , THE USE DURING SPECIFIED SPRING AND FALL CLEANUP, I THOUGHT, UM, WOULD BEGIN BY, UM, INVITING, UM, MIKE SIEGEL, UM, AND TERRY TORI TO, UM, MAKE OPENING, UH, COMMENTS. AND THEY ALSO, UM, WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE US TO A PROFESSOR, UM, UM, WHO, UH, CAN, UH, SPA WHO HAS EXPERTISE ON, UM, THIS MATTER. AND HE'LL TALK ABOUT THE HEALTH ISSUES. THANK YOU, PAUL. UH, I THINK I'LL START OUT. TERESA. TORI, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TERESA TORI, AND I'M CHAIR OF THES CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL. THE C A C I'LL BE GIVING A SHORT OVERVIEW OF THE LAW WE'LL BE DISCUSSING LATER. THEN MIKE SIEGEL, VICE CHAIR OF THE C A C WILL INTRODUCE DR. KENNETH SPACE, A GREENBERG RESIDENT WHO IS A MEDICAL DOCTOR AT NORTHWELL HEALTH, AND A PROFESSOR AT THE HOFS SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH. THE SUPERVISOR ASKED THE C A C SEVERAL TIMES TO REPORT ON THE IMPACTS OF LEAF BLOWERS, RESPONDING TO THE SUPERVISOR'S 2017 REQUEST. THE C A C RESEARCHED THE ISSUES, AND IN 2018 SUBMITTED A WRITTEN REPORT TO THE TOWN BOARD, AND THEN DISCUSSED THIS REPORT WITH THE TOWN BOARD DURING A WORK SESSION, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, RESPONDING TO THE SUPERVISOR'S 2020 REQUEST TO DEVELOP THE LAW A LAW, THE C A C DEVELOPED THE LAW BASED ON ITS PREVIOUS RESEARCH AND ADDITIONAL RESEARCH TO UNDERSTAND THE BASE FOR THE LAW. I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY SHARE OUR FINDINGS. THE CAC STUDY REVEALED THAT BLOWERS BOTH GAS AND ELECTRIC CAUSE UNWARRANTED AND HARMFUL IMPACTS TO BOTH RESIDENTS AND THE ENVIRONMENT. AIRBORNE PARTICULATES BLOWERS BOTH GAS AND ELECTRIC EMIT HURRICANE FORCE WINDS. THESE HURRICANE FORCE WINDS INVOLUNTARILY EXPOSE RESIDENTS TO AIRBORNE PARTICULATES. THESE CAN LARGE IN THE LUNGS. CHILDREN, THE ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS WITH ASTHMA AND PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE PARTICULARLY AT RISK. THIS IS ESPECIALLY THE CASE DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN THE ACID PHE CONDITIONS RESULT IN PARTICULATES REMAINING IN THE ATMOSPHERE FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME. ENVIRONMENTAL DUE TO THEIR HURRICANE FORCE WINDS, BOTH GAS AND ELECTRIC BLOWERS ADVERSELY IMPACT REGENERATION OF SOILS AND DESTROY THE LAVA AND EGGS OF INSECTS. AND POLLINATORS NEEDED TO SUSTAIN BIRDS AND VEGETATION. NOISE BLOWERS INVOLUNTARILY EXPOSE RESIDENTS TO ANNOYING NOISE LEVELS. ALMOST ALL BLOWERS, BOTH GAS AND ELECTRIC OPERATE AT A DECIBEL LEVEL, WHICH THE E P A SETS IS UNCOMFORTABLE. THE TOWN'S NOISE ORDINANCE PRESENTLY PROHIBITS GAS BLOWERS TO OPERATE ABOVE 55 DECIBELS. [00:40:01] THE C A C STUDIED THE MANUFACTURER SPECIFICATION OF OVER 300 BLOWERS, BOTH GAS AND ELECTRIC. ONLY FIVE ELECTRIC BLOWERS HAVE DECIBEL LEVELS BELOW THAT ALLOWED BY THE TOWN'S NOISE ORDINANCE. BASED ON THE CA CITY STUDY FROM A HEALTH, ENVIRONMENTAL, AND NOISE ANNOYANCE, ANNOYANCE TO RESIDENTS PERSPECTIVE, BOTH GAS AND ELECTRIC BLOWERS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE LOCAL LAW. WHILE IT MAY HAVE BEEN AT ONE POINT IN TIME THAT ELECTRIC BLOWERS WERE LESS POWERFUL AND LESS NOISY THAN GAS BLOWERS, THAT IS NO LONGER TRUE. TODAY'S ELECTRIC BLOWERS HAVE HURRICANE FORCE WINDS AND DECIBEL LEVELS, WHICH SPEW AIRBORNE PARTICULATES, DESTROY SOILS, AND CREATE NOISE POLLUTION. THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SCHOOL OF ENGINEERING HAS VALIDATED THAT LEAF BLOWERS ARE A SOURCE OF AIRBORNE PARTICULATE MATTER. THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCE HAS IDENTIFIED THIS FINE PARTICULATE MATTER AS THE LARGEST ENVIRONMENTAL RISK IN THE UNITED STATES. ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION, THOSE MOST AT RISK ARE INFANTS, CHILDREN, TEENS, AND INDIVIDUALS WITH ASTHMA AND PEOPLE OF COLOR. LEAFBLOWER LEGISLATION IS SUPPORTED BY THE MEDICAL SOCIETY OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, THE ASTHMA COALITION, AND THE BREAST CANCER COALITION. THE LORD PROS BY THE C A C WOULD ALLOW BOTH GAS AND ELECTRIC BLOWERS TO BE USED FOR SPRING CLEANUP PERIOD OF MARCH 1ST TO MAY 15TH, AND FOR FALL CLEANUP PERIOD FROM OCTOBER 15TH TO DECEMBER 15TH. BASED ON COMMENTS OF THE LAST HEARING, THE FINES HAVE BEEN LOWERED, AND A PROVISION ADDED THAT THERE WOULD BE ONLY A WARNING AND NO FINE FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE. AN EXEMPTION HAS BEEN ADDED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES OF THE HARD STEEL PUBLIC PARKING DISTRICT, AND FOR THE USE OF BLOWERS TO REMOVE SNOW, THE TOWN'S SUPERVISOR MAY SUSPEND THE LAW WHEN THERE IS A WEATHER EMERGENCY. EXCEPTIONS WILL BE ALLOWED SO THAT BLOWERS COULD BE USED YEAR ROUND FOR DEBRIS CLEANUP RESULTING FROM AUTHORIZED TREATING RULES, CLEANUP WITHIN TWO FEET OF OUTDOOR EQUIPMENT SUCH AS AIR CONDITIONING, COMPRESSORS AND GENERATORS, AND RELATED ABOVE GROUND PIPING AND WIRING AND PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE HARTSDALE PUBLIC PARKING DISTRICT. LIMITED RESPECT TO PUBLIC ROADS, PUBLIC PARKING LOTS, PUBLIC ISLANDS, AND PUBLIC PARKING GARAGES. EXEMPTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES ARE NOT NEW FOR THE LAST 22 YEARS, SINCE AT LEAST 1999, WHERE ALFREDA WILLIAMS WAS THE TOWN CLERK. THE TOWN CLERK ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN HAS GRANTED WAIVERS FROM THE TOWN WAR, THE PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES OF THE HARSDALE PARKING DISTRICT. THE EXEMPTION FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IN D P DRU IS SIMILARLY LIMITED TO PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES. THE C A C CONSIDERED, BUT DID NOT RECOMMEND, RECOMMEND OTHER EXCEPTS, FOR EXAMPLE, AN EXCEPTION FOR HOMEOWNERS. THE C A C DID NOT RECOMMEND SUCH AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE THE HARMS CAUSED BY BLOWERS OCCUR REGARDLESS OF IN WHOSE HANDS THE BLOWER IS OPERATED. THE PRACTICALITIES OF ENFORCEMENT WERE ALSO CONSIDERATIONS OF THE C A C FOR THE LORD TO BE ENFORCED. ALL THAT'S NEEDED IS A CALENDAR. NO TOWN RESOURCES ARE NEEDED TO GET INVOLVED IN MEASURING SOUND OR MEASURING DURATION OF USE IN CONNECTION WITH THE ENFORCEMENT. A WARNING, NOT A FINE WILL BE GIVEN FOR THE FIRST VIOLATION. FINALLY, THE LAW SUNSETS IN TWO YEARS, AT WHICH POINT IT CAN BE REEVALUATED. NOW, MIKE SIEGEL, THE C A C VICE CHAIR, WILL INTRODUCE DR. SP A GREENBERG RESIDENT WITH WHOM THE C A C HAS CONSULTED. THANK YOU, MIKE. UH, THANKS. THANKS. UM, DR. KENNETH FAITH IS A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. HE SERVES AS DIVISION CHIEF OF OCCUPATIONAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICINE AT NORTHWELL HEALTH SYSTEM, WHICH IS NEW YORK'S LARGEST HEALTHCARE PROVIDER. HE SEES PATIENTS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED HARMFUL EXPOSURES OCCURRING IN THE WORKPLACE OR IN THE COMMUNITY. HE ALSO SERVES AS A FACULTY MEMBER AT THE HOF SCHOOL OF HEALTH, WHERE HE TEACHES ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IN THE GRADUATE SCHOOL AND IN THE MEDICAL SCHOOL. DR. SPA DID HIS ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICAL TRAINING [00:45:01] AT THE HARVARD SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH, AND HIS CO-AUTHORED TWO TEXTBOOKS IN THE FAIL IN THE FIELD OF ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICINE. DR. SPA HAS SERVED AS A CONSULTANT TO THE C D C AND THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AND HAS ADVISED LEGISLATURES ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL, AT THE STATE LEVEL, AND AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. DR. SPACE HAS GIVEN TESTIMONY SUCH AS HE'S GONNA BE GIVING HERE TONIGHT ON PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES TO NEW YORK STATE, TO THE CITY OF NEW YORK AND THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA. AND NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DR. SPACE. THANK YOU. UH, THAT'S, YEAH. HI. GOOD EVENING. UH, HONORABLE BOARD MEMBERS. UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, MY INTRODUCTION, MIKE. UM, SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS DR. KEN'S FAITH, AND I'M, UH, YOU'VE HEARD MY, MY, SOME OF MY, UH, BIOGRAPHY, SO I, I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF, BUT JUST SAY, YES, I'M A PUBLIC HEALTH PHYSICIAN. UM, MY PARTICULAR AREA OF EXPERTISE IS, IS, UM, IN RELATION TO HAZARDOUS EXPOSURES. AND AGAIN, LET ME JUST THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. UM, AND WHAT I, I WOULD REALLY ARGUE IS A, A PRESSING PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE IN, IN MANY COMMUNITIES, IN INCLUDING OURS. AND I WILL CERTAINLY DO MY BEST TO RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME. I'LL TRY TO KEEP MY REMARKS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT. UM, SO LET ME JUST BEGIN BY SAYING, LOOK, WE'RE FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH STANDPOINT, WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN ONE OF THE BIGGEST PUBLIC HEALTH CRISES OF OUR TIME, THE, THE C OVID 19 PANDEMIC. UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, DESPITE THE, THE HARDSHIPS IT HAS BROUGHT, THERE ARE SOME LESSONS CERTAINLY TO BE LEARNED. MANY ACTUALLY. UM, BUT I THINK SOME OF THEM ARE RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT LEAF BLOWERS. UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS, HAS BECOME ABUNDANTLY CLEAR FROM, FROM THIS PANDEMIC IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC HEALTH IS REALLY CENTRAL TO ENSURING THAT PROPER FUNCTION AND, AND REALLY FLOURISHING OF OUR COMMUNITIES. UM, AND ONE, AND ON A RELATED NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, ENSURING EXPOSURE REDUCTION IS REALLY ESSENTIAL IN PROTECTING THE HEALTH OF OUR POPULATION. AND THAT'S REALLY AN UNDERLYING ISSUE, UH, THAT WILL BE, UH, RUNNING THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION. UM, AND LOOK, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE, THIS PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE OF COVID IS, IS FRONT AND CENTER, I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER LESSONS WE'RE SEEING NOW A YEAR PLUS IN IS THAT, UH, IGNORING OR, OR DISPLACING OTHER PRESSING PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES, BE IT, YOU KNOW, THE OPIOID, UH, EPIDEMIC OR, OR PEOPLE NOT KEEPING UP WITH THEIR CANCER SCREENINGS. ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED. THE PANDEMIC IS NOT REALLY AN EXCUSE TO PUSH ASIDE, UH, OTHER PRESSING PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES. SO THE OTHER IMPORTANT LESSON I THINK IS RELEVANT IS, UM, FROM, FROM THE PANDEMIC IS GOOD PUBLIC POLICY HAS TO BE BASED IN GOOD SCIENCE, RIGHT? GOOD DECISION MAKING COMES FROM THE, UH, A ROBUST AND, AND ABUNDANT AMOUNT OF, OF DATA FROM, FROM SCIENCE. UM, AND THAT'S WHEN IT'S MORE, THAT'S WHEN PUBLIC POLICY'S REALLY GONNA BE MOST EFFECTIVE WHEN IT'S GROUNDED IN THAT SCIENCE. SO, LOOK, IN REGARDS TO LEAF BLOWER, THE SCIENCE ON THIS IS ROBUST AND IT'S CLEAR, UH, THAT, THAT THE HEALTH RISKS THAT WE SEE IN RELATION TO LEAF BLOWER USE, UM, ARE, ARE VERY, UM, SIGNIFICANT. AND WHAT, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE KEY SCIENTIFIC FINDINGS, AND I WILL DO MY BEST TO, TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS AT VERY, YOU KNOW, UH, EVERYDAY TERMS. AND I WILL TRY TO KEEP MINOR NERDY TENDENCIES TO A MINIMUM AND NOT GET TOO TECHNICAL HERE, BUT THE FIRST MAJOR ISSUE THAT THAT WEEK BLOWERS, UM, CARRY ARE, ARE NOISE, RIGHT? AND YOU, YOU CERTAINLY , YOU CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERT TO RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT THE IMPACT OF, OF THIS NOISE IS, IS A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC HEALTH, PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE BEYOND WHAT, WHAT SEEMS APPARENT AND WHAT, WHAT SEEMS OBVIOUS. AND, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT I WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. SO AS YOU'VE HEARD, AND AS I'M SURE YOU'RE WELL AWARE, THE NOISE LEVELS ARE, ARE TYPICALLY IN BY CONVENTION MEASURE MEASURED IN DECIBELS, RIGHT? AND SO A LEAF BLOWER WOULD, WOULD TYPICALLY RUN IN THE RANGE UPWARDS OF 90 TO A HUNDRED DECIBELS. SO ALLOW ME TO PUT THAT IN SOME KIND OF PERSPECTIVE. [00:50:01] 90 TO A HUNDRED DECIBELS IS, IS CAN BE AS MUCH AS A HUNDRED TIMES LOUDER THAN A TYPICAL VACUUMING CLEANER, OKAY? AND, AND REMEMBER THAT EVEN AT A DISTANCE OF UPWARDS OF 300 TO 400 FEET, RIGHT, WHICH IS REALLY A FOOTBALL FIELD OR MORE, UM, THE PERSISTENCE AND THE CONTINUATION OF THAT NOISE LEVEL KEEPS IT ABOVE, WE'RE AROUND 70 DECIBELS, AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHY THAT MATTERS IN A MOMENT. SO, SO JUST KEEP THOSE, THAT RANGE OF, OF 90 TO A HUNDRED WHEN YOU'RE UP CLOSE AND 70 WHEN YOU'RE, AS FAR AS A FOOTBALL FIELD OR MORE. SO, YEAH, AGAIN, I THINK EVERYONE IS WELL AWARE THAT THE, THAT LOUD NOISES POSE A RISK TO, UH, OUR HEARING AND HEARING LOSS IS ACTUALLY EPIDEMIC IN OUR COUNTRY. IT'S ONE OF THESE UNRECOGNIZED EPIDEMICS. UM, AND, UH, THEY, THEY ESTIMATE IN FACT THAT 25% OF ADULTS UNDER THE AGE OF 65 HAVE SIGNIFICANT HEARING LOSS, WHICH HAS BEEN ATTRIBUTED JUST TO EVERYDAY NOISES, SIMILAR TO THE KINDS OF NOISES THAT WOULD BE GENERATED FROM LEAF LEAF BLOWERS. UM, AND, AND AS A RESULT, REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A VERY, UH, PREVENTABLE EPIDEMIC OF NOISE INDUCED HEARING LOSS. SO, AGAIN, TO PUT IT IN SOME PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU'RE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A LEAF BLOWER WITHIN 15 MINUTES AT THOSE DECIBELS, YOU COULD HAVE, YOU COULD SUSTAIN PERMANENT HEARING LOSS AND PERMANENT DAMAGE. UM, CERTAINLY, UH, IN THE CLOSE RANGE, THE DECIBELS EXCEED OSHA MANDATED, UH, REGULATIONS FOR A NUMBER OF REQUIREMENTS, UH, MOSTLY IN REGARDS TO PROTECTING THE WORKERS. UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, WORKERS, UM, WHO ARE, WHO ARE, UH, OPERATING, THESE ARE REQUIRED BY OSHA TO HAVE APPROPRIATE HEARING PROTECTION, UH, TO BE REGULARLY ASSESSED WITH AUDIOGRAMS, UM, TO, AND FOR THE EMPLOYER TO ENGAGE AS MANY NOISE REDUCTION MEASURES AS POSSIBLE. SO I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST USING THE EYE TEST, RIGHT, WHEN YOU WALK AROUND AND YOU SEE LANDSCAPERS, MOST OF THE TIME THE WORKERS ARE NOT ADEQUATELY EQUIPPED WITH, UM, WITH THEIR PROTECTIVE GEAR. AND, AND AGAIN, THE EYE TEST WILL TELL YOU AND DEMOGRAPHICS BEAR THIS OUT, THAT THE PREPONDERANCE OF, OF EMPLOYEES WHO ARE ENGAGING IN SUCH WORK ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THIS IS GOING ON HUNDREDS OF FEET FROM WHERE THE LEAF BLOWER MAY BE, UH, ACTUALLY BEING USED, THE DECIBEL LEVELS THAT I MENTIONED, AROUND 70 DECIBELS, IF YOU RECALL, THOSE ARE IN EXCESS OF E P A STANDARDS FOR WHAT'S, WHAT'S PROTECTIVE FOR A COMMUNITY. SO THE CURRENT, AND BY THE WAY, THAT 70 DECIBEL LEVEL THAT THE E P A USES WAS SET IN 1974, LONG BEFORE THE SCIENCE WE HAVE NOW. SO THOSE, EVEN THAT VALUE, THAT THRESHOLD FOR, FOR, UH, AS A BENCHMARK FOR PUBLIC HEALTH IS WAY TOO HIGH. IT OUGHT TO BE MUCH LOWER. SO EVEN HUNDREDS OF FEET FROM THE SITE WHERE THESE ARE BEING USED, UM, IT EXTENDS THE RISK. SO, SO, SO THE NOISE AND THE HEARING RELATED EFFECTS ARE, ARE FAIRLY, UM, INTUITIVE, I, I WOULD THINK, RIGHT? BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER HEALTH EFFECTS WHICH, WHICH PUBLIC HEALTH RESEARCH HAS DEMONSTRATED IN THE PAST DECADE? AND THOSE INCLUDE THINGS LIKE INCREASED RISK OF OBESITY AS A RESULT OF NOISE EXPOSURE, HYPERTENSION BEING, UH, INCREASED THE INCIDENTS AND THE, AND THE SEVERITY OF HYPERTENSION AS A RESULT OF CHRONIC NOISE EXPOSURE. HEART DISEASE, INCLUDING HEART ATTACKS, UH, ARE, ARE INCREASED BY PERSISTENT LOUD NOISES. UM, SAME IS TRUE FOR STROKES AND EVEN PREMATURE DEATH, UM, ARE ALL CONSEQUENCES OF, OF CHRONIC NOISE EXPOSURE. AND THIS IS VERY WELL DEMONSTRATED IN, UH, IN THE STUDIES ON, ON EXPOSED POPULATIONS. SO, SO THIS IS, THIS IS WIDELY RECOGNIZED NOW. UM, AND AGAIN, GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HOW SOUND TRAVELS, THESE HEALTH EFFECTS CAN OCCUR EVEN AS FAR AS A 10TH OF A MILE AWAY FROM WHERE THE LEAF BLOWERS ARE IN USE. NOW, AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE HEALTH EFFECTS THAT I MENTIONED MAY NOT SOUND INTUITIVELY OBVIOUS AND , AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE BIOLOGICAL MECHANISMS BY WHICH IT, IT'S THOUGHT THAT THESE OCCUR. BUT I, I'LL SPARE YOU, UM, AGAIN, MY, MY NERDY TENDENCIES TO WANNA TALK ABOUT SUCH THINGS. BUT IF THERE'S INTEREST, I I'M HAPPY [00:55:01] TO, TO DISCUSS IT. SO LET'S PUT THE NOISE ASIDE FOR A SECOND AND TALK ABOUT THE, ONE OF THE OTHER MAIN HEALTH THREATS THAT BLOWERS POSE, WHICH IS PARTICULATE MATTER. AND YOU'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, I THINK, SO I WON'T SAY TOO MUCH, BUT LET ME JUST START BY GIVING YOU A CLEARER DEFINITION OF WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY PARTICULAR MATTER. UM, SO PARTICULAR MATTER ARE SOLID PARTICLES, OR THEY CAN BE LIQUID DROPLETS. THAT'S THAT SUSPEND IN THE AIR, BUT IT CAN BE DUST, IT CAN BE DIRT, IT CAN BE SO SMOKE. THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES THAT TYPICALLY WE, WE ARE ABLE TO SEE WITH THE NAKED EYE, BUT THE BIGGEST HAZARD ACTUALLY COMES FROM THE MICROSCOPIC, UH, PARTICLES THAT WE CANNOT SEE WITH THE NAKED EYE. IN FACT, SOME OF THEM ARE SO SMALL, A HIGH PERCENTAGE, IN FACT ARE SO SMALL THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN BE SEEN WITH A MICROSCOPE. YOU WOULD ACTUALLY NEED AN ELECTRON MICROSCOPE. UH, SOME OF THESE ARE SMALL ENOUGH TO BE CLASSIFIED AS NANOPARTICLES OR ULTRA FINE PARTICLES. AND THESE CAN PASS RIGHT THROUGH OUR CELLS THAT THIS OUR CELL, BARE OUR CELL WALLS, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO YOUR, UH, BIOLOGY CLASSES ARE NO BARRIER TO SOME OF THESE. SO THEY GO, IF BREATHED IN, THEY GO RIGHT THROUGH OUR, OUR WHOLE BODY. AND THAT RELATES TO SOME OF THE HEALTH EFFECTS WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, IN A MINUTE. SO AS, AS TERRY WAS MENTIONING, UH, LEAF BLOWERS, WHETHER ELECTRIC OR GAS ARE CAPABLE OF GENERATING, UH, ENORMOUS FORCE OF AIR, SO UP TO 270 MILES PER HOUR OF, OF AIR. SO AS WAS ALLUDED TO THAT, THAT PUTS IT IN THE RANGE OF, OF EVEN A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE. AND IN FACT, 270 WOULD BE WELL IN EXCESS OF WHAT A CATEGORY, CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE, UM, UH, WOULD SUSTAIN. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THIS, THIS AIR AT SUCH SPEED FORCES THE PARTICULATE MATTER INTO THE AMBIENT ENVIRONMENT, WHERE DEPENDING ON ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, YOU CAN STAY SUSPENDED IN THE AIR, FLOATING IN THE AIR FOR HOURS, AND IN SOME CONDITIONS, POTENTIALLY UP TO 24 HOURS, AND WOULD TRAVEL UPWARDS OF A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE POINT OF USE. AND, AND, AND SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEING KICKED UP INTO THE AIR, RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE MOLD SCORES, POLLEN, ALL SORTS OF ALLERGENS. UH, FECAL MATTER, UH, HEAVY METAL MAY BE IN THE SOIL, PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDE RESIDUES THAT HAVE BEEN USED IN THE PROPERTY OR IN THE AREA WHICH HAVE, UH, SETTLED OUT AND WILL BE RESUSPENDED INTO THE AIR ONCE THESE ARE USED. AND AS I MENTIONED, PARTICULATE MATTER, WHICH IS SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE REFERRED TO AS PM 10 OR PM 2.5, WHICH ARE THOSE NUMBERS REFER TO, UH, SIZE CATEGORIES. UM, OKAY. AND SO WHY IS, WHY ARE THOSE THINGS, UH, AN ISSUE? WELL, BECAUSE IN THE, IN THE SHORT TERM, IN THE IMMEDIATE TERM, WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE CAN BE EXACERBATIONS OF A NUMBER OF, UH, OF CONDITIONS, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE ASTHMA, UH, C O P C O P D AND EMPHYSEMA EXACERBATIONS. IT CAN PUT YOU AT INCREASED RISK FOR RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES GENERALLY, WHICH IN THE TIME OF, OF COURSE OF COVID IS, IS, IS QUITE SIGNIFICANT. IT CAN INCREASE THE RISK OF HEART ATTACKS IN THE SHORT TERM. AND STROKES, PROLONGED USE OF THIS CAN ACTUALLY INCREASE THE RISK OF DEVELOPING LUNG DISEASE IN THE FIRST PLACE, AS WELL AS ACCELERATE HEART DISEASE LIKE ATHEROSCLEROSIS, HARDENING OF THE ARTERIES. UH, AND EVEN THINGS LIKE LUNG CANCER RISK CAN GO UP AS A RESULT OF, OF PROLONGED EXPOSURE. SO AGAIN, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO GET IN, UH, INTO A DISCUSSION OF, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY HOW AND WHAT THE BIOLOGICAL MECHANISMS ARE FOR THIS, BUT I'LL PUT THAT ASIDE FOR NOW. UM, AND, AND, UH, TRY TO WRAP UP HERE WITH JUST A FEW MORE THOUGHTS. OKAY. SO REMEMBER THAT LIKE WITH MANY HARMFUL EXPOSURES, THERE'S WHAT WE CALL A DOSE RESPONSE, WHICH MEANS THAT AS THE AMOUNT OF EXPOSURE INCREASES THE SUBSEQUENT RISK OF THE KINDS OF HEALTH EFFECTS I TALKED ABOUT INCREASE. AND THEN CONVERSELY, THE, THE LESS EXPOSURE, THE LOWER THE RISK. SO IN A PERFECT WORLD, THERE'D BE NO EXPOSURE TO A HARMFUL SUBSTANCE. BUT AS I DON'T THINK I NEED TO TELL YOU, WE DO NOT LIVE IN A, IN A PERFECT WORLD, BUT LESS IS LESS EXPOSURE CORRELATES WITH LESS RISK AND MORE EXPOSURE WITH MORE RISK. OKAY, AND I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH JUST A COUPLE OF OF OTHER THOUGHTS THAT I THINK ARE WORTH MENTIONING. HERE. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM, FOR THE LANDSCAPERS THEMSELVES, UH, THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY OPERATING [01:00:01] EACH, THE RISK IS CERTAINLY GREATEST BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THIS FOR MUCH OF THE DAY. AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT, OFTEN WITHOUT APPROPRIATE PROTECTIVE GEAR, AND THAT THESE ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY WORKERS OF COLOR FOR THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THESE, IS IT FROZEN , YOU'RE FROZE, COMES TO FOR HUNDREDS OF FEET. SO LOOK, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS AND DR. SPA, DR. . YES. DR. SPA. YOU, YOU FROZE ABOUT TWO MINUTES AGO, RIGHT? WHEN YOU OH, NO. AFTER YOU TALK ABOUT THE WORD. OH, I'M SO SORRY. YOU'RE FREEZING AGAIN. YEAH. SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME NOW? YES. ALRIGHT. WE HEARD YOU UP UNTIL YOU HAD, I'M SO SORRY ABOUT PEOPLE OF COLOR. OKAY. UM, YES. SO, UM, IS HE DISCONNECTED OR IS IT JUST POOR TRANSMISSION? I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN SEE HIM ANYMORE ON THE SCREEN. DO YOU HAVE HIM CONNECTED? FRANCIS? YEAH, HE'S CONNECTED. DR. SMITH, PERHAPS IF YOU SHUT OFF YOUR VIDEO, YOU'LL HAVE ENOUGH BANDWIDTH FOR AUDIO. I TRY THAT. SO LET ME PICK UP THERE IF YOU CAN. , HOW IS THAT ALL RIGHT NOW? YEAH, WE, IT IS, BUT I, OKAY. TRY THAT AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN SHUT OFF YOUR VIDEO. ALL RIGHT. AND JUST GO BY AUDIO. ALRIGHT, FAIR ENOUGH. I'LL, I'LL LET YOU, UH, GIVE ME THE CUE AS TO WHETHER THAT'S NECESSARY OR NOT. UM, SO AGAIN, MY, MY LAST COUPLE THOUGHTS HERE, UM, WERE THAT, THAT THIS IS GONNA DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT, UH, THE WORKERS OF COLOR AND THAT FOR THE COMMUNITIES, THE EXPOSURE DOES NOT STOP WHEN THE LEAF BLOWER IS TURNED OFF. IT CONTINUES FOR HOURS UP TO A DAY AFTER THE USE OF THE, OF THE LEAF BLOWERS. SO IT ISN'T A MATTER OF ON OFF, IT REALLY DOESN'T RESULT IN A PROLONGED EXPOSURE EACH TIME THEY'RE USED. AND AGAIN, THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT THE MORE THAT'S DONE TO REDUCE THE EXPOSURE, IN OTHER WORDS, THE MORE THAT'S DONE TO RESTRICT THE, THE USE, UH, THE, THE BETTER. AND, AND I SAY THAT IN TERMS OF THE FACT THAT THE RISKS FOR ALL OF THE KINDS OF HEALTH OUTCOMES, UH, ARE LOWER BY HAVING LESS EXPOSURE. AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SCIENCE ON THIS IS WELL VETTED. UH, IT'S, IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED. UM, AND ULTIMATELY, OBVIOUSLY THE DECISION IS YOURS. BUT I THINK THAT AS, AS WE STARTED OUT TALKING ABOUT, ONE OF THE LESSONS OF, OF COVID IS, AND THE PANDEMIC HAS LET THE SCIENCE, UH, BE THE GUIDE. AND I THINK IT, IT, IT APPLIES EQUALLY HERE. SO WITH THAT, AND BEFORE MY INTERNET, UH, MAKES TROUBLE AGAIN, I'LL SAY, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND, AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO, TO BE AVAILABLE FOR, FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ANY BOARD MEMBER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR SHOULD WE MOVE ON WITH A HEARING? WELL, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THESE BLOWERS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED AT ANY TIME BY ANYONE, AND THERE SHOULD BE NO EXEMPTIONS, INCLUDING FOR THE TOWN EMPLOYEES, MANY OF PEOPLE OF COLOR. UH, WELL, LISTEN, IT'S NOT MY PLACE TO TELL YOU WHAT POLICY, UH, IS MOST APPROPRIATE. AND I THINK ANOTHER LESSON FROM COVID IS THAT OFTENTIMES POLICY IS, IS AT LEAST INFLUENCED BY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS BEYOND THE SCIENCE. AND, AND THAT'S WHY YOU FOLKS GET THE BIG BUCKS TO MAKE SUCH HARD DECISIONS. BUT STRICTLY FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH POLICY STANDPOINT, YES, THEY SHOULD BE RESTRICTED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IF YOU WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE PROTECTION OF PEOPLE'S HEALTH. GREAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MENTION, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THE TOWN BOARD'S BEEN DISCUSSING THIS, UM, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND OVER THE YEARS, UM, IT'S BEEN [01:05:01] ABOUT 50 50. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE ARE VERY STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF, UM, BANNING LEAF BLOWERS, UH, BECAUSE OF NOISE AND HEALTH AND HEF. THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONTACTED US ARE, UM, VERY ANTI, UM, DOING ANYTHING, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, OR WOULD PREFER AT LEAST SOME, SOME COMPROMISES. UM, FOR THE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS HEARING, UM, RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF TELLING US YOU WOULD LIKE A STRONG BAN WITH NO EXEMPTIONS. WOULD YOU LIKE, UM, A COMPROMISE? ONE SUGGESTED, UM, COMPROMISE, UM, THAT WAS DISCUSSED, UM, BY SOME PEOPLE EARLIER TODAY WOULD BE, UM, UH, TO, UM, UM, HAVE LIKE A FOUR OR THREE, UM, YOU KNOW, RULE WHERE, UM, ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS AND MAYBE ONE DAY DURING THE WEEK, UM, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY OF, UM, UH, USING LEAF BLOWERS DURING A PERIOD OF TIME. AND, UM, FOUR DAYS A WEEK, UH, THERE WOULD BE QUIET WITH NO LEAF FLOWING BLOWERS, YOU KNOW, ALLOWED, UH, THAT COMPROMISE WOULD GIVE PEOPLE, UM, WHO OBJECT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS. AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, UM, TO TIME, YOU KNOW, LEAF BLOWING TO, UM, TIMES WHEN IT'S ALLOWED. UM, IF THERE IS A COMPROMISE, UM, ONE OF THE, UM, THOUGHTS WOULD BE TO CREATE A COMMITTEE THAT, UM, WOULD WORK ON ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IN, UH, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMUNITIES IS THEY HAVE THESE LAWS AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY ENFORCED THAT, THAT STRICTLY. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO, UM, LOOK FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK TOGETHER ALMOST AS A TRANSITION PERIOD, UM, TO FIGURE OUT A WAY OF EDUCATING AND ENFORCING. AND THE THIRD OPTION IS TO, UH, DO NOTHING. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE PRESENTATION WE JUST HEARD WAS DEFINITELY, UM, VERY, VERY, UH, USEFUL. AND YOU, AGAIN, IF YOU FOLLOW HEALTH, YOU KNOW, ISSUES YOU'D SAY WE WANT THE BIN. UM, IF YOU, UM, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, IMPACT, UM, LEAF BLOWING, UH, WILL HAVE ON YOUR ABILITY TO, UM, DO GARDENING AND KEEP YOUR, UM, PROPERTY CLEAN, THEN YOU MAY NOT WANT THE BAND, BUT YOU MIGHT BE SUPPORTIVE OF A COMPROMISE. SO TODAY'S, TODAY, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING, BUT WE'RE GONNA LISTEN TO, UH, COMMENTS, PRO CON, UM, AND COMPROMISES. AND THEN TOWN BOARD WILL, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR EVERY, WE'LL DISCUSS, UM, WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING. GREAT. I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT 12, UH, SPEAKERS OR SO, SO FAR. UM, IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK, PLEASE INDICATE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE CHAT. AND, UH, THE TOWN BOARD ALLOWS PEOPLE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES. IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO SPEAK FOR FIVE MINUTES. UM, AND SOMETIMES YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN. AND AS THE SUPERVISOR MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE WILL NOT, UH, BE VOTING TONIGHT, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS. THANKS. SO JUST, UH, F Y I, TIM CHAT IS DISABLED. SO IF, UM, ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK IN ADDITION TO THOSE WHOSE NAMES THAT GARRETT HAD SHARED WITH ME, UM, THEY SHOULD, UH, JUST PHYSICALLY RAISE THEIR HAND AND WAVE AT US SO THAT WE CAN ADD THEM TO THE LIST. OKAY. WE, YOU UNDER COREY AND SCOTT. OKAY. YES. COULD YOU ADD TOM BLANK TO THE LIST IF HE IS NOT ON THERE? CERTAINLY TOM AND, UH, HUGH, DO I SEE YOU? YES. OKAY. TOM BLANK. THANK YOU. AND HUGH MCCAULEY. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO LET'S START OFF WITH, UM, ALAN FISHMAN. AND I SEE MR. BROWNTOWN AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE MR. BROWN. YES. HE'S ON THE LIST. AND MURRAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S ALAN FISHMAN HERE THIS EVENING. HE IS. OKAY, LET'S START OFF WITH ALAN, MR. FISHERMAN. HE IS NOT MUTED. I JUST DON'T HEAR HIM. OKAY. WE CAN COME BACK TO HIM. OKAY. WE'LL COME BACK TO ALAN CAROL, ANN BURKE [01:10:08] AND OKAY. NOT PRESENT. WE'LL COME BACK TO CARE. COREY, ROBIN, RAVEN. RAVEN. THANK YOU. HELLO, EVERYBODY. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES. YES. GREAT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. UM, I AM A RESIDENT OF GREENBERG. I LIVE ON NANCY PLACE AND I'M ON THE BOARD OF METROPOLIS COUNTRY CLUB. SOME OF YOU BECOME ALL TOO FAMILIAR WITH THAT. MM-HMM. , UH, THE LATERAL, UH, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF THE CLUB TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT THE, THE LAW THAT'S PROPOSED, UH, FOR 130 ACRE PROPERTY WITH A 200 AND SOME ODD MEMBERS THAT ARE EXPECTING TO HAVE A MANICURED FACILITY EVERY, UH, DAY, THAT THEY GO OUT FROM EARLY IN THE MORNING TILL IT GETS DARK. UH, THE LAW WOULD BE OVERLY BURDENSOME FOR A PROPERTY OF OUR SIZE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO CARE FOR THE GOLF COURTS WITHOUT THIS. SO THE SAME EXCLUSION THAT'S PROPOSED FOR MUNICIPAL PROPERTY WOULD SEEM TO ME TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR SIMILAR LARGE TRACKS OF LAND. UM, I GUESS ONE WOULD LOOK AT CEMETERIES, ONE WOULD LOOK AT GOLF COURSES AND CERTAINLY THE MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES. UM, AND SO I'M JUST HERE TO, TO SAY THAT, UM, AND I'M SURE OTHER GOLF COURSES IN THE TOWN WOULD FEEL SIMILARLY, THOUGH I'M NOT SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF. UM, WE WOULD ASK THAT THERE BE EXCLUSIONS FOR GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE, UM, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE WAY, UH, PEOPLE EXPECT, UH, UH, DURING THE COURSE OF THE, THE SEASON. OF COURSE, THE SEASON IS RATHER SHORT, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE TIMEFRAME WITHIN WHICH THIS LAW WOULD BE MOST APPLICABLE, I SUPPOSE. UH, MIDDLE OF WINTER, NOBODY'S LEAF BLOWER. BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. AND JUST NOTE THE, THE CLUB'S, UH, INTEREST AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT THE EXCLUSION WOULD APPLY TO GOLF COURSE. CAN I JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE. UM, IS IF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COMPROMISE SUGGESTION, UM, IF THERE WAS, LIKE, ARE THERE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, UM, LIVE WITH, UM, A PROPOSAL WHERE THERE WOULD BE SOME DAYS WHERE THERE'D BE NO LEAF FLOWING, YOU KNOW, ALLOWED, AND, AND OTHER DAYS YOU'D BE ABLE TO DO IT? PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER TO TALK ABOUT HOURS THAT IT COULD BE DONE AND NOT DONE IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME COMPROMISE RATHER THAN DAYS, BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY DAYS THAT THE COURT DOESN'T GET ANY PLAY. EVEN ON MONDAYS THERE ARE OUTINGS, UH, SO YOU CAN'T REALLY INCLUDE ANY DAYS OF THE WEEK. UH, BUT YOU CERTAINLY COULD WORK OUT SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE WITH RESPECT TO HOURS. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE MAINTENANCE BUSINESS TO OPINE ON WHAT THAT WOULD BE, BUT CLEARLY METROPOLIS ALWAYS HAS, UH, BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND WISHES TO, UH, TO HEAR ANYTHING THAT, THAT, UH, WOULD BE REASONABLE, THAT COULD ALLOW US TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND STILL FACILITATE THE DEMAND THAT THE, UH, TRUSTEES HAVE THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, UH, TO ADDRESS NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. WELCOME, PETER BROWN. HI. HOW ARE YOU? UM, AM I ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS? YES. UM, SO I HAVE A, A QUESTION FOR, FOR KEN SPEED. IF HE WAS, UH, JUST SPEAKING BEFORE, UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF ANY OF THE CONDITIONS OR ILLNESSES THAT YOU MENTIONED, UH, ARE DIRECTLY LINKED TO LEAF BLOWERS? YES, UH, MANY OF THEM ARE IN FACT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, I THINK I WENT THROUGH SOME OF THESE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO REITERATE. SO IN THE IMMEDIATE, UH, TERM, IN OTHER WORDS, WHILE EVEN WHILE IN USE AND, AND IN THE HOURS AFTER, UH, WE KNOW THERE ARE INCREASED RATES OF ASTHMA EXACERBATION, C O P D, EMPHYSEMA EXACERBATIONS, UH, AND, AND THESE KINDS OF EXPOSURES CAN INCREASE RATES OF, OF HEART ATTACK AND, AND OTHER CARDIOVASCULAR ISSUES. SO I'M, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I JUST, SO A PATIENT COMES IN WITH C O P D AND YOU CAN DIRECTLY LINK SOME OF THE CAUSES TO LEAF BLOWERS. ABSOLUTELY. HOW'S THAT? YEAH, FOR RESPIRATORY, IF SOMEONE WAS IN THE VICINITY OF, OF THE ACTIVITY, UH, AND THEY HAVE UNDERLYING RESPIRATORY DISEASE, IT'S VERY COMMON TO SEE, SEE THAT BE, UH, A TRIGGER. SURE. YEAH. SO MR. BROWN, THE TOWN BOARD LIKES FOR, UM, SPEAKERS TO COMPLETE THEIR THOUGHTS AND THEN WE CAN GET BACK LATER. , I, I KNOW, I'M SORRY. I, I JUST SAID I'M LIMITED ON TIME, SO I KIND OF WANT TO JUST GET RIGHT TO MY POINT, IF THAT'S OKAY. IS, I MEAN, I'M, [01:15:01] I'M NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET, I HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS AND RIGHT, SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST SAY ALL YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN HE CAN ANSWER AFTER YOU'RE DONE. SO YOU MAKE SURE YOU QUESTION. WELL, ALSO, I WANNA MAYBE MAKE A COMMENT AFTERWARDS TOO. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SHORT ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, IF THAT'S OR NOT. I COULD JUST MAKE MY COMMENT AND LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT YOU CAN DO THAT AND ASK THE QUESTIONS AS WELL. OKAY. SO, UM, I AM IN FAVOR OF COMPROMISE. UM, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE EXCEPTIONS FOR, FOR PEOPLE, FOR HOMEOWNERS, FOR LANDSCAPERS, FOR THE TOWN. UM, MY MAIN THING IS I'M AGAINST IT YET. I'M FOR COMPROMISE. SO I'M GONNA BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE BAN AND NOT FOR COMPROMISE. UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I NOTICED THE LAST, LAST MONTH WAS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF THE BAN WERE LEANING TOWARDS COMPROMISE. YET THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN FAVOR OF THE BAN, THERE SEEMS TO BE NO WIGGLE ROOM WITH THEM, UM, WHICH IS CONCERNING TO ME. UM, IF I COULD ASK, UH, MS. TORY A QUESTION. LAST MONTH YOU MADE NO MENTION OF PEOPLE OF COLOR BEING AFFECTED BY THE PARTICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YET THIS MONTH YOU DID. I'M CURIOUS WHY THEY WERE OMITTED FROM YOUR COMMENTS LAST MONTH, WHICH WERE QUITE SIMILAR TO YOUR COMMENTS THIS MONTH. WELL, YOU'RE GONNA ASK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE, THEN WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AND LET PEOPLE RESPOND. COOL. ALRIGHT, SO THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS FOR THE BOARD. UM, HOW COME NOBODY HAS BEEN BROUGHT IN TO COUNTER ANYTHING THAT THE C A C HAS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE? OKAY, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO NOW? UM, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT, I BELIEVE THE LAST TURNOUT, WE DIDN'T MENTION ANY CATEGORY OF PEOPLE. AND WHEN WE CONTINUED TO DO RESEARCH AND LOOK, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, WHAT CAME UP WAS WE ACTUALLY WENT ON TO E P A SITES AND SUCH. AND WHEN WE SAW WHO WAS CATEGORIZED, UH, IT WAS, WE FOUND THAT THAT WAS THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT INCLUDED, UM, THE AGED AND PEOPLE OF COLOR, WHICH WE HADN'T BEEN COGNIZANT OF BEFORE, BUT I THINK WAS RELEVANT TO BRING FORWARD. UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHO GETS AFFECTED BY IT. UM, I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IN MY MIND IF YOU'RE GONNA GET SICK, WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET SICK. AND THE INCLUSION WAS STRICTLY ONE OF JUST ADDITIONAL RESEARCH AND PULLING THE INFORMATION AND PULLING DIRECT QUOTES OUT AT VARIOUS POINTS FROM THINGS WE WERE READING. ALSO, ALSO, UM, MR. BROWN, I'LL POINT OUT THAT ONE TOWN RESIDENT, MS. WES HAD RAISED THE ISSUE OF PEOPLE OF COLOR AT THE LAST MEETING. AND SO WE, UH, WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON MS. WILLIAMS' COMMENTS. OKAY. WHO'S NEXT? OKAY, BILL MCGRATH. I'M SORRY, I JUST HAD THAT LAST QUESTION FOR THE BOARD. YOU KNOW, THE, THE TOWN BOARD BASICALLY HOLDS THESE HEARINGS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO LISTEN. AND THIS IS THE SECOND HEARING WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, ON THE SUBJECT, YOU KNOW, TODAY. AND, UH, WE HAVE ONE, YOU KNOW, A FEW WEEKS AGO. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO SOLICIT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC COMMENTS. I INDICATED, WE ALL INDICATED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE NO VOTE TODAY. AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, WE WILL FOLLOW UP. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO WE COULD HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE MORE THAN, UH, THAN HAPPY TO HEAR FROM, UH, FROM DIFFERENT, UH, UH, DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS AND DIFFERENT EXPERTISE. AND THEN THE TOWN BOARD COULD MAKE AN INTELLIGENT, UH, YOU KNOW, DECISION. BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE ISSUE THAT WE HAVEN'T RUSHED BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS NOT FOR WEEKS, BUT FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS. UM, AND YOU, THAT'S WHY EVEN THE COMPROMISE IDEA, UM, MAYBE SORT OF ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UM, IF WE PURSUE A COMPROMISE, UM, YOU KNOW, MOVE, UH, FORWARD TO A BETTER, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE WHO JUST ARE VEHEMENTLY AGAINST THIS. I, YOU, I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR HELP AND YOUR FEEDBACK AND, AND THE TOWN BOARD ISN'T IN THE, DOESN'T HAVE THE PRACTICE OF IF SOMEBODY IS PRESENTING SOMETHING, WE GO OUT AND FIND PEOPLE TO COUNTER IT. WE BASICALLY HAVE RESIDENTS FOR THAT. AND MANY PEOPLE GOT THE LINK. I WENT THROUGH ALL MY EMAILS, UH, TODAY, UH, IN ADDITION TO THOSE THAT ASKED TO SPEAK. AND IF ANYBODY [01:20:01] SENT AN EMAIL MENTIONING BLOWER, UH, YOU LIKELY GOT A LINK TO THIS MEETING THAT YOU MAY NOT EVEN HAVE ASKED FOR. AND THAT'S WHETHER OR NOT YOU WERE IN FAVOR OF IT OR NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, SO THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, WHICH WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW IS GOING TO BE 50% WANTED AND 50% DON'T WANT IT, UH, WHICH IS A TERRIBLE POSITION TO BE IN BECAUSE YOU, THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. UH, BUT I I I, I AGREE THAT I BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME COMPROMISE. I HOPE THAT HAS ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. I NO, REALLY, I DID. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BILL MCGRATH. HI. YES. UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AND, AND, UH, AND, AND I WANNA THANK THE C A C AND THE DOCTOR WHO PRESENTED THE INFORMATION. I'M GONNA BE BRIEF BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, UH, I INITIALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE, THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS OF, OF LEAF BLOWERS, BUT THEY WERE VERY COMPETENTLY, UM, ARTICULATED BY THE C A C REPORT AS WELL AS THE DOCTOR EARLIER. WHAT I, WHAT I WAS STRUCK BY FROM THE LAST HEARING AND FROM THIS DISCUSSION THAT'S GONE ON FOR, AS PAUL SAID FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, IS THAT I FREQUENTLY HEAR, AND I I'LL SAY YOU THIS RESPECTFULLY, BUT I FREQUENTLY HEAR FROM THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 50% OF THE PEOPLE WANTED, AND ABOUT 50% DON'T WANT THE RESTRICTIONS, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT DO WE DO? UH, BUT WHEN I HEAR THE ARGUMENTS ON THE TWO SIDES OF THE ISSUE, ON ONE SIDE, WE HAVE VIRTUALLY UNCONTESTED INFORMATION ABOUT THE, THE IMPACTS ON PEOPLE'S HEALTH. THAT IF I, IF I DO A LEAF LOW ON MY PROPERTY, PEOPLE, AS THE DOCTOR SAID, A FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY, THEIR, THEIR HEALTH AND WELLBEING ARE IMPACTED BY MY BEHAVIOR. UM, THE ARGUMENT, UH, FOR NOT HAVING, UH, SOME KIND OF BAN RESTRICTION IS MOSTLY OF CONVENIENCE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, OF SOME OF THE, UM, UH, SOME OF THE EXEMPTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED HERE. UH, LIKE FOR, I THINK THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF COMPROMISE ALREADY IN THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION, INCLUDING FALLEN AND SPRING CLEANUP, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, UH, WAIVERS WHEN THERE'S A STORM, YOU KNOW, THING, THINGS LIKE THAT, WORKING AROUND CERTAIN EQUIPMENT OR WHEN THERE'S A PROJECT, PARTICULAR PROJECT BEING DONE ON THE PROPERTY. I HEAR THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE GOLF COURSE, IT'S A REASONABLE, UH, THING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT HE BROUGHT UP. BUT THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY, UH, COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO ARGUMENTS IN MY VIEW. BESIDES, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL CASES, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY, YOU KNOW, WE SAY 50 50 IN TERMS OF WHO WANTS IT. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WHEN LEGISLATION AROUND ASBESTOS, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS BEING DISCUSSED, PEOPLE, IF HALF THE PEOPLE SAID, YOU KNOW, I REALLY LIKE USING IT. YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T SAY, WOW, YOU KNOW, GEE, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? HALF THE PEOPLE WANNA USE IT, YOU KNOW? UM, IT'S SORT OF A RIDICULOUS ARGUMENT. UM, I, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. EXCUSE ME, SAYING RIDICULOUS, BUT IT'S, IT DOES, IT'S NOT A COMPELLING ARGUMENT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY CONVENIENCE OR, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE, THERE WAS THE ARGUMENT MADE ABOUT THE IMPACT IT HAS ON LANDSCAPERS THAT HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS WHO OWN LANDSCAPING BUSINESSES, WHO DO BUSINESS IN TOWNS, NEIGHBORING ONE FRIEND IS IN ROCKLAND. THEIR BUSINESS ISN'T SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED BY THOSE TOWNS THAT HAVE THOSE REGULATIONS. THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF OTHER WORK THAT THEY DO. THEY'RE VERY BUSY. IT'S ACTUALLY HARD TO GET THEM, YOU KNOW? UM, SO I, I THINK THIS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE IMPACT THAT, THAT LET HAVE ON PEOPLE'S HEALTH, YOU KNOW, HEARING, UH, YOU KNOW, RESPIRATORY ILLNESS, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE JUST FAR TOO COMPELLING TO SAY, WELL, YEAH, BUT WE WANT THE CONVENIENCE OF BEING ABLE TO USE THOSE THINGS. UM, IT, IT JUST SO SEEMS, SEEMS TO ME LIKE EVEN THOUGH IT'S A 50 50 SPLIT, IT SHOULD BE AN EASY DECISION FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO, AS THE DOCTOR SAID. AND I, I WAS GLAD THAT HE ANSWERED THE WAY THAT HE DID WHEN I ASKED, YOU KNOW, UH, I, HE LIKE, I THINK FRANCIS, YOU ASKED, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE THEREFORE JUST BAN 'EM ALL TOGETHER? HE SAID, I'M JUST INTRODUCING THE SCIENCE, RIGHT? BUT THAT SCIENCE IS COMPELLING AND, AND I, AND I, I REALLY THINK IT CALLS FOR ACTION ON THE PART OF THE BOARD QUICKLY. 'CAUSE IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR YEARS. UM, SO I, I PUT MY, AND I, I AGREE WITH COMPROMISE, BUT I THINK THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF COMPROMISE ALREADY. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SCOTT RADY. HI. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UM, WON'T STAY ON FOR LONG 'CAUSE I'M LATE FOR PUTTING MY SON TO BED, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME SPEAK AND, UM, APPRECIATE BOTH PAUL AND THE REST OF THE, UM, GROUP HERE. UM, BEYOND THE RECEIVING END OF SOME VERY [01:25:01] FRUSTRATING EMAILS ABOUT, UM, NOISE AND JUST QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES HERE. UM, I LIVE IN EAST IRVINGTON ON MULLIGAN LANE, AND I'M GONNA PREFACE WHAT I'M SAYING BY SAYING THAT I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST LANDSCAPERS OR THEIR RIGHT TO EARN A LIVING. I THINK THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE A LIVING, AND THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO, AND THIS, AND WHAT I THINK AND FEEL IS, HAS NO DIRECT RELATION TO THAT IMPACT WHATSOEVER. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED ACTION. AND WE, AND I'M, I'M WORRIED ABOUT A PARTIAL REGULATION HAVING VERY LITTLE TO NO IMPACT, BECAUSE FROM THE LITERATURE I'VE READ, ENFORCEMENT IS AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE AS REGULATION ITSELF. AND WHO WILL ENFORCE A PARTIAL REGULATION? WILL IT BE THE POLICE? WELL, SURELY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT, AND IM MEANINGFUL THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF, SUCH AS EMERGENCIES. AND SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT, UM, ENFORCEMENT VERY MUCH. AND TO THE, THE PRIOR SPEAKER WHO MENTIONED THE, THE ARGUMENT FOR, UM, OR AGAINST A BAN, I, OTHER THAN CONVENIENCE AND THE RIGHT FOR LANDSCAPE BUSINESSES TO EARN A LIVELIHOOD, I, I I, I JUST DON'T SEE WHAT POSSIBLY COULD BE AN ARGUMENT FOR IT OTHER THAN JUST RETICENCE OR, OR RETICENCE. I MEAN, I THINK IF WE, I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE A, AN ACTUAL QUALITATIVE SURVEY PUT OUT THERE TO, SO WE COULD REALLY UNDERSTAND THE PROPONENTS OR THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST A PARTIAL BAN AS TO WHAT THOSE REASONS ARE. BECAUSE ALL OF THE SCIENCE, AND I WON'T EVEN GET INTO THE SCIENCE THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED SO ELOQUENTLY BEFORE ME, ALL OF THE SCIENCE POINTS TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS A VERY BIG PROBLEM. AND IT'S SO MUCH OF A BIG PROBLEM THAT A HUNDRED CITIES AS OF 2019 HAVE ALREADY HAD ALREADY BANNED OR RESTRICTED USE OF THESE THINGS. 100 BY 2019 PRIOR SPEAKER MENTIONED THAT, UM, THE DECIBEL LEVELS OF THESE MACHINES ARE IN EXCESSIVE 90 DECIBELS. IT'S BEEN PROVEN THAT 85 DECIBELS OR ABOVE, ONCE YOU'RE EXPOSED TO SOUNDS OF THAT LEVEL, YOU CAN LOSE HEARING PERMANENTLY. THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT THE SCIENCE IN TERMS OF, UM, SOLUTIONS, YOU KNOW, HUMANITY HAS A WAY OF MAKING HUMAN HUMANKIND. MANKIND HAS A WAY OF MAKING PROGRESS OVER TIME, RIGHT? WE ADVANCE BEYOND STEAM ENGINES, UM, TO ELECTRICITY. WE ADVANCE FROM BEYOND. UM, WE'RE MOVING FROM, UM, GAS POWERED CARS TO ELECTRIC ONES BECAUSE THEY'RE SAFER, THEY'RE CLEANER, AND IN THE END THEY'RE MORE EFFICIENT. UM, I THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S AN ELECTRIC TOOL OR SOMETHING ELSE, I, I, I MEAN, I, I GO OUT SOME DAYS AND I SEE PEOPLE DOING THESE THINGS, AND I DON'T SEE ANY LEAVES EVEN BEING COLLECTED. I SEE THEM BEING BLOWN FROM ONE HOME TO THE NEXT. AND SO I, AND I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN OTHERWISE, IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY COLLECTING LEAVES AND CLEANING, THEN BY ALL MEANS, THEN THEY HAVE A, THEN WE NEED A SOLUTION TO PICKING UP LEAVES. BUT I SEE THEM BEING BLOWN FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. I DON'T EVEN SEE THEM DOING THE JOB, WHICH IS BEAUTIFYING AND CLEANING OUR, OUR STREETS AND OUR YARDS UP. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S JUST KIND OF PUSHING THEM FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER. I THINK IF YOU GO ON YOUTUBE OR ANY PARTICULAR SITE, YOU'LL SEE THAT YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE JUST PEOPLE WANDERING AROUND, BLOWING LEAVES AND FROM ONE PLACE TO THE NEXT, JUST KIND OF REDIRECTING LEAVES FROM ONE PLACE TO THE NEXT. AND I, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO FIND A SOLUTION HERE. PEOPLE THAT ARE PRODUCING ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND ANY SOLUTION TO ANY PROBLEM, SOCIETY WITH TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION. THERE IS A SOLUTION HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ONE UNLESS WE ADMIT THAT, THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH. AND A PARTIAL BAN SAYS THAT BASICALLY, WELL, IT'S SORT OF A PROBLEM, BUT IT'S SORT OF NOT, OUR HEALTH IS SORT OF IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S SORT OF NOT. AND I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PLACES LIKE LARCHMONT, IN CROTON, IN MONTCLAIR, I MEAN, IT'S ALL MOVING IN THIS, IT'S ALL MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION. LIKE, THERE WILL BE A TIME, WHETHER IT'S FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THESE THINGS WILL BE GONE FOR GOOD. SO WE HAVE A CHOICE OF EITHER MAKING A DECISION NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA FIND A BETTER SOLUTION AND SAVING OUR HEALTH AND OUR WELLBEING IN, IN PROBABLY MOST THE ONE, THE MOST EXPENSIVE AND STRESSFUL PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY. WE CAN, WE CAN DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND NOW AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA FIND A SOLUTION. OUR HEALTH IS IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE LANDSCAPING COMMUNITY TO FIND ANOTHER WAY TO BEAUTIFY THINGS. BUT [01:30:02] A MIDDLE GROUND. AND, AND NUMBER ONE IS, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PARTIAL SOLUTION. IT'S NOT ADMITTING THAT IT'S A PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH. AND NUMBER TWO IS, I REALLY WORRY ABOUT ENFORCEMENT. I MEAN, WHO, HOW IS IT GONNA BE ENFORCED? IT TOOK, I, I, I SENT EMAILS TO THE BOARD REPEATEDLY COMPLAINING, BECAUSE I'M LOSING MY MIND ABOUT THIS SOUNDS 24 7 SEEMS LIKE, AND IT TOOK A LOT FOR ME TO ACTUALLY BE ON THIS MEETING IF YOU ASKED ME CONDITIONALLY, IF THERE, IF THERE WERE GONNA BE SOME PARTIAL BAN HERE. BUT IT WAS CONTINGENT UPON ME HELPING TO ENFORCE IT. I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT. I MEAN, WHO'S GONNA ENFORCE IT? AND HOW I, I I I I, I JUST SAY, I, I'M, I'M TRYING TO SAY AS IMPASSIONED AS POSSIBLE, IS THAT I, I, I CAN'T EVEN MEASURE THE, THE STRESS AND, UM, DISRUPTION AND MENTAL ANGUISH THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE FEELING FROM THIS, MYSELF INCLUDED. AND THERE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, USUALLY WHEN THERE'S A PROBLEM WHERE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, YOU CAN USUALLY TURN TO SOMEBODY TO HELP SOLVE IT, OR YOU CAN GET SOLACE OR CARE FROM SOMEBODY. I STAND OUTSIDE YELLING AT, YELLING AT NOTHING, YELLING AT LEAF BLOWERS. AND, UM, MY FAMILY THINKS I'M CRAZY, BUT I JUST, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ANYMORE. OKAY, MR. CRAIG, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS. I, I, I'LL DO ANYTHING I POSSIBLY CAN TO HELP FIND A SOLUTION HERE TO WHAT I THINK IS A, A VERY BIG PROBLEM. AND I REALLY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING BY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIND A, A WAY TO HELP THEM AND, AND, AND NOT HURT THEM THROUGH THIS. BUT I THINK THERE'S, THERE HAS TO BE AND WILL BE, WHETHER IT'S FIVE, 10 OR 15 YEARS FROM NOW, A SOLUTION TO THIS THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE LEAF BLOWERS. AND, YOU KNOW, I, UH, SCOTT, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EMAILS AND YOU KNOW, THE PASSION YOU HAVE ABOUT THE, THE SUBJECT. YOU KNOW, WHAT I'VE PERSONALLY FOUND FRUSTRATING OVER THE YEARS IS WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT, AND THEN THERE'S OPPOSITION, THEN NOTHING HAPPENS. AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN, AND THERE'S OPPOSITION AND, UH, NOTHING HAPPENS. AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN OF THE OPINION THAT SOMETIMES IF YOU GO IN BABY STEPS AND YOU EDUCATE, AND, UH, WE GET MORE BUY-IN FROM THE COMMUNITY AT THE, THAT, THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WILL GET, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE MORE PROGRESS, YOU KNOW, MADE. 'CAUSE I, WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A HEARING AND IT'S, IF IT'S REALLY CONTROVERSIAL AND EVERYBODY'S FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER, NOTHING'S GONNA LAND UP GETTING DONE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING, AND I, I, I WOULD LIKE, AT MINIMUM TO FEEL THAT WE'RE IMPROVING PEOPLE'S, YOU KNOW, QUALITY, YOU KNOW, QUALITY OF LIFE. AND I ALSO FEEL THAT, AND I'M, AGAIN, I'M JUST SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF, UM, COMPROMISES EARLY ON, WE COULD BE WORKING DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME TO, UM, UH, TO WORK ON ENFORCEMENT SO WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE LAW IS ENFORCED, UH, WHEN IT SHOULD BE. WE COULD HAVE, UM, A, A TASK FORCE OF, OF RESIDENTS, UM, WORKING, UH, MONITORING, UM, WHILE WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK WITH THE LAW, UH, EDUCATING LANDSCAPERS, EDUCATE, UH, TRYING TO FIND OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING TECHNOLOGY AND, UM, REPORTING THAT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I JUST FEEL THAT THAT HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING THE COMMUNITY, UH, TO WHERE YOU WOULD EVENTUALLY LIKE IT TO BE. THAT'S JUST MY OWN, I'M JUST GIVING YOU MY OWN. UM, CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING? UM, I LOVE IRVINGTON. I WHERE MY FAMILY'S HAPPY HERE. WE LOVE THE REGION, WE LOVE THE PEOPLE, BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IF, IF I WAS MOVING TO WESTCHESTER FROM THE CITY FOR THE FIRST TIME, KNOWING NOW WHAT I KNOW, IF I HAD, IF I, IF I KNEW THAT I COULD LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE THESE WERE BANNED OR PARTIALLY REGULATED VERSUS A PLACE THAT THEY WERE NOT, I WOULD, I WOULD CHOOSE A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE PARTIALLY BANNED OR REGULATED BECAUSE IT'S THAT IMPORTANT TO ME. AND, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S HARD TO, UM, FATHOM THAT, BUT MAYBE THAT'S, MAYBE AT A VERY EXTREME LEVEL, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD TAKE. IF, IF PEOPLE REALLY FELT AS IMPASSIONED AS I DID ABOUT IT. AND, AND IT REALLY HURT US IN THE POCKETBOOK. UM, IT'S, IT, IT, I I, AGAIN, I REALLY, TO THE OTHER SPEAKER'S POINT, I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, WHICH IS, UM, OTHER THAN CONVENIENCE, AND THOSE WHO OBVIOUSLY OPERATE BUSINESSES, WHICH I TOTALLY RESPECT, WHAT, WHAT THE, UM, ARGUMENT AGAINST ANY KIND OF REGULATION IS. OKAY, THANKS. THAT'S WHY OTHER PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY. SURE, OF COURSE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME THE TIME. [01:35:01] SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO ALAN. I SEE ALAN IS HERE. ALAN FISHMAN ON MUTE. OKAY. ALAN, ARE YOU SPEAKING? YOU WERE ONE OF THE FIRST ON THIS LIST. YOU'RE MUTED. OKAY. SO LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO, UM, STEVE, IS IT KO OR RAY ROFF? STEVE ROFF HERE. HI. THANK YOU, STEVE. OKAY. AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK, YOU COULD JUST RAISE YOUR HAND. THE REASON WHY WE'RE NOT DOING IT WITH THE CHAT IS BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE A STENOGRAPHER, UH, SHE'S RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN. IT'S BARBARA. NOW SHE HAS TO PUT INTO THE TRANSCRIPT HER NAME AGAIN. I TRY TO DO THAT AS MUCH AS I CAN. SO IF YOU JUST RAISE YOUR HAND, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT VERSION YOU HAVE, YOU'LL SEE IT SAYS REACTIONS AT THE BOTTOM, AND YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, CLICK ON THAT AND IT'LL SAY RAISE HAND. OTHERWISE, ON OLDER VERSIONS OF ZOOM, IT'S UNDER, IT'S ON THE, UH, PARTICIPANT, UM, UH, MENU. BUT RAISE YOUR HAND. IT'LL PUT YOU ACTUALLY AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN AND, UH, YOU'LL BE IN THE QUEUE. OKAY. SO JU YOU SEE MR. TORINO'S, UH, I SEE MATT MATT'S ALREADY ON THE LIST. YES. OKAY, SO, UH, SHOULD YOU TELL ME WHEN I SHOULD START WITH MY OBSERVATIONS? IT MAY BEGIN, STEVE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WELL, WHAT'S WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT HEARING ALL THE POINTS OF VIEW, UH, IS THAT IT IS INCREDIBLY COMPLEX. THE, THE SITUATION HERE, UM, WE ALL, AS PARENTS, FAMILY MEMBERS WANT TO GET THE BEST OF HEALTH, AND THAT'S UNCOMPROMISING. BUT IT, IT LED ME TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S POINT OF VIEW. AND I, I KEEP THINKING WHAT CAME FIRST, THE PARTICULATE OR THE EGG. UH, WE'RE IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER DROPS, FLOWERING TREES, DROPS OTHER CONTAMINANTS FROM TREE WORKERS CUTTING DOWN TREES. SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT HITS ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES, AND IT JUST MAKES A LOT OF SENSE THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF WINTER, UH, CONTAMINANTS ON THE ROADWAYS. SO THE TRACTOR TRAILERS GOING DOWN ONE 19 OR 2 87 ARE CERTAINLY GONNA BE PICKING UP, UH, CONVECTION FORCES BEHIND THEIR VEHICLES, WHICH LIFT SAND AND OLD SALT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT IT'S LEADING TO IS TECHNOLOGY DOES NEED TO CATCH UP. RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY ELECTRIC FORMS OF CLEANUP AVAILABLE ARE ELECTRIC BATTERY OPERATED OR GAS OPERATED BLOWERS THAT IN ESSENCE PUSH THE PARTICULATES, WHICH IS AN ISSUE. BUT IN THE, IN TERMS OF THE TECHNOLOGY, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SUCKS IT UP, LET'S SAY, INTO A, A NEAT TIDY LITTLE BUNDLE. AND IN THE CASE OF THE ANALOGIES TO, UM, ASBESTOS OR CIGARETTES, I THINK THAT'S CRYSTAL CLEAR. THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY DEFINED ISSUES THAT THERE WAS LEGISLATION AND AND PRACTICE THAT WE ALL DID SINCE WE WERE A LITTLE KIDS TILL NOW, TO TRY TO EDUCATE AND HELP THE PUBLIC. AND I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING FOR ALL THIS, IF THE CONTAMINANTS ARE ON THE PARKING LOTS, ON THE ROADWAYS, ON THE PROPERTIES, AND THEY'RE NOT DEALT WITH PROPERLY, AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE MORE OF A STUDY AND MOVING TOWARDS PROPER REGULATION, FOR INSTANCE, YOU SHOULD BE BLOWING YOUR LEAF BLOWER AT DURING CERTAIN HOURS AND CERTAINLY BLOWING FROM YOUR PROPERTY LINE TOWARD THE MIDDLE TO CREATE YOUR LEAF BUNDLES, AND THEN CAREFULLY EITHER VACUUM IT UP WITH A SHOP VAC OR VACUUM IT UP OR RAKE IT UP INTO A BAG. BUT YOU SHOULD NOT BE BLOWING TOWARDS YOUR NEIGHBORS. I AGREE. THAT IS NOT, UH, CONSIDERATE PROPER. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GUIDELINES THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE THAN PEOPLE STANDING IN THE STREET SCREAMING AT EACH OTHER FOR NOT IMPROPERLY USING IT. AND IN TERMS OF NOISE REDUCTION, UH, I DON'T USE MINE, FOR INSTANCE, ON TURBO, I TRY TO ACTUALLY USE VERY LITTLE BLOWING IN THE STANDARD SPEED. AND I WEAR MY MASK AND I WEAR MY EARMUFFS AND I, I OPERATE IT SAFELY. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UH, ARE IN A PRACTICAL WORLD, IF YOU JUST LET THE STUFF GO ONTO YOUR DRIVEWAYS, WHEN YOUR OTHER CONTAMINANTS COME OFF, UH, YOUR, YOUR MAILMAN'S TRUCK WHEN HE DRIVES ON AND HAS SAND ON HIS TIRES AND, AND THEY CUT THE GRASS AND THE GRASS IS ALL OVER THE PLACE, THESE THINGS BECOME MOLD PRODUCING WHEN THEY GET WET. AND THEN YOU HAVE MOLD SPORES. AND WAY TO GET RID OF THAT IS TO OBVIOUSLY SWEEP IT AND, AND BLOW IT INTO BUNDLES AND THEN CLEAN IT UP PERIODICALLY. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO, THIS IS ALL I'M SAYING, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ALL PASSIONATE, I THINK IT, YOU HAVE TO GET GUIDELINES TOGETHER OF HOW TO OPERATE [01:40:01] THIS EQUIPMENT, WHEN TO OPERATE THIS EQUIPMENT, AND HOW TO DO IT SAFELY SO YOU'RE NOT DISRESPECTFUL TO YOUR NEIGHBORS. AND I THINK THAT'S MY OBSERVATION FROM HEARING EVERYBODY'S PASSION IN THE MATTER. UH, IT BECOMES MORE OF A PRAGMATIC SOLUTION BECAUSE IF WE WERE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE COULD SOMEHOW STOP THE TREES FROM SHEDDING OR ACID RAIN, OR ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ON YOUR PROPERTY WHEN YOU WANT TO HAVE MOTHER'S DAY AND YOU'RE IN YOUR BACKYARD AND YOU ALL THE LEAVES AND THE DEBRIS FELL ON YOUR PATIO AND YOUR YOUR TABLE, IT'S JUST, YOU CAN'T JUST WHATEVER, GET A SPONGE OUT AND A MOP AND CLEAN UP EVERY SQUARE INCH OF A, YOU KNOW, OF A PATIO, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF MOVE IT TOWARDS A, A BUNDLE IN THE HOUSE. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE TO THIS, BUT I THINK IT CAN BE DONE PROCEDURALLY SAFELY WITH GUIDELINES EDUCATION. AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS THE ONLY WAY NOW IS 'CAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY IS NOT THERE YET. UH, IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET THE TESLA CARS ON THE ROAD. THAT COMPANY STARTED OVER A DECADE AGO. AND I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE A GREAT TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCE IN HOW YOU CLEAN THIS STUFF UP, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT HERE YET. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO, UH, RECOGNIZE THE ENTIRE PICTURE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. CERTAINLY, I THINK THERE WAS A GOOD POINT ABOUT BLOWING THE MUNICIPAL PARKS WHERE PEOPLE, FAMILIES WILL BRING THEIR CHILDREN, AND IF THERE WAS POLLEN AND DEBRIS LEFT ON THE, THE GRASS AND THE BENCHES, THEN PEOPLE WOULD BE INGESTING OR INHALING THAT. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO BLOW THE PARKING STRUCTURES DURING THE SUMMER SUMMER MONTHS. SO THERE COULD BE PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS TAILORED TO EACH SITUATION, IN MY OPINION. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANALYTICAL WAY YOU'RE APPROACHING THIS, AND I THINK WE CAN HAVE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL AT THIS TIME. I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, TAILORING IT SO THAT IT'S REASONABLE TO GET IT INTO APPLICATION RATHER THAN CREATING A, UH, A NEIGHBOR AGAINST NEIGHBOR ENVIRONMENT. THAT WOULD BE BAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JEFF SHERWIN. HI. SO I LOOKED AT THE LAW THAT WAS, OR THE DOCUMENT THAT THE C A C PRODUCED, AND I SEE THAT IT SAYS HERE THAT, UM, THE RESTRICTIONS SHALL NOT APPLY TO BLOWERS FOR PUBLIC WORKS AFFECTING ROADWAYS, WALKWAYS, RHODE ISLANDS, UM, UPON THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE COMMISSIONER FOR EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES SUCH AS SPECIAL EVENTS, EQUIPMENT MALFUNCTIONS, EQUIPMENT SHORTAGES, AND PERSONAL SHORT PERSONNEL SHORTAGES. AND THEN IT DOES, IT SAYS THE SAME THING AGAIN FOR PARKS AND RACK. UM, AND SO, AND THE H P P D, BUT SEEING AS JERRY BYRNE AND, UH, RICHARD FAWN ARE BOTH ON THE CALL, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT BUDGET HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE BY THE TOWN TO COVER THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, ADDITIONAL TOOLS, ADDITIONAL TIME IT'S GONNA TAKE TO DO THE CLEANUP, UM, DURING THE RESTRICTED TIME? OR IS THERE AN EXPECTATION FOR THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS THAT THESE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH INCLUDE EQUIPMENT SHORTAGES AND PERSONNEL SHORTAGES WILL SORT OF BE A B A U THING? THAT'S, THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. AND THEN THE SECOND POINT THAT I HAVE FOR THE C A C IS, IF THE NOISE FOR THE LEAF BLOWERS, WHICH I AGREE IS VERY LOUD, IS SUCH A MAJOR ISSUE, WHY AREN'T THE LAWNMOWERS, WHICH ALSO PRODUCE NOISE IN EXCESS OF 90 DECIBELS, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE POINT THAT YOU GUYS MADE ABOUT MAJOR NOISE ISSUES, ARE, ARE LAWNMOWERS ALSO A PROBLEM? SO HOW IS THE TOWN BUDGETED FOR THIS? WHAT'S THE TOWN'S PLAN GOING FORWARD FOR COMPLYING TO ITS OWN LAW? AND, AND HOW, AND IF NOISE IS, IS ONE OF THE MAJOR, UM, REASONS FOR THIS LAW, WHY AREN'T OTHER MAJOR NOISE ISSUES BEING ADDRESSED? UM, JEFF, ARE YOU WAITING FOR AN ANSWER OR, I THINK HE IS. I THINK HE'S WAITING FOR, FOR RICH. I'M WAITING FOR AN ANSWER. , I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HOW THE TOWN HAS DONE GOOD PLANNING FOR THIS. OKAY. SO JUDITH, I JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NORMALLY DO IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN PPLICANT, THEY, THEY WRITE THINGS DOWN THAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING. OKAY, [01:45:01] EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THAT SOMETIMES YOU ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS WHEN THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, DOES SPEAK. SO I JUST FLUSH, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS SO, SO YOU NORMALLY DO, TIM, SHOULD I JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER? I, I COULD ANSWER THE, I THINK A QUESTION WAS MADE TO ME. I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER IT. YEAH. BUT YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO REALLY JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT AND THEY WANNA LEAVE, AND I WANT TO GIVE THOSE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. RICH FONG IS GONNA BE HERE. JERRY BYRNE IS ON THE LINE. OKAY. AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS. OKAY. UH, TOM BLANK, IS TOM STILL WITH US? YEP. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEP. YES. OKAY. UM, I'M KIND OF A BELIEVER IN COMPROMISE. I KNOW IT DOESN'T WORK AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL SO MUCH THESE DAYS, BUT PERHAPS IT CAN WORK AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. UM, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, I'VE LIVED IN EDGEMONT FOR 35 YEARS, TAKING CARE OF MY OWN PROPERTY. I'M THE PROUD OWNER OF A BATTERY POWERED LEAF BLOWER, WHICH I USE ON MY PROPERTY. I WOULD QUESTION THAT THE NOISE PRODUCED BY THAT LEAF BLOWER IS ANYWHERE NEAR AS LOUD AS A GAS BLOWER, PARTICULARLY SINCE THEY RAMP UP AND RAMP DOWN ALL THE TIME, AS OPPOSED TO THE ONE THAT I USE, WHICH I ALSO TRY NOT TO USE ON TURBO EITHER. BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO CREATE A PLACE WHERE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY CAN MAKE THEIR PROPERTIES LOOK GOOD. AND I WAS OUT THE OTHER DAY BLOWING STUFF OFF MY DRIVEWAY SAYING, GOD, IF I HAD TO GET MY BROOM AND SWEEP MY A HUNDRED FOOT DRIVEWAY AND PUT IT ALL IN A BUCKET, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, TO ME, I'M GONNA THINK TWICE ABOUT GOING AHEAD AND DOING THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND I THINK THE OFFSIDE IS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A DETERIORATION TO SOME EXTENT OF THE ABILITY OF THE HOMEOWNER TO KEEP THEIR PROPERTIES LOOKING THE WAY WE ALL LIKE THEM TO LOOK. AND FOLLOWING THE LAST MEETING ON A WHIPPED OPEN, MY SCARSDALE ENQUIRER, AND ON THE FRONT PAGE IT SAID THE MOVE WAS TO GO TO ELECTRIC LOWERS, AND I THINK ELECTRIC AND BATTERY ARE REALLY DIFFERENT THAN GAS. AND THEN I FOUND OUT THE WHOLE ARTICLE WAS ABOUT SCARSDALE. AND SCARSDALE WHO'S DISCUSSING THE SAME TOPIC WE ARE, THEIR EFFORT IS TO OUTLAW TO A GREATER EXTENT THE GAS BLOWERS, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS TO USE BATTERY POWERED AND ELECTRIC POWERED BLOWERS. AND TO ME, THERE HAS TO BE A WAY THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG CAN COME UP WITH A WAY THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME OF IT TO BE USED TO MAKE THE PROBLEM BETTER THAN IT CURRENTLY IS. AND THE FACT THAT THE PROPOSED LAW HAS A TWO YEAR SUNSET PROVISION, I THINK RATHER THAN BEING IN A DRACONIAN WAY THAT HEY, THEY'RE DONE, YOU CAN'T USE 'EM EXCEPT IN SPRING AND, AND FALL, AND YOU CREATE A SITUATION THAT THEY CAN BE USED AND IT'S QUIETER AND STILL ALLOW THE HOMEOWNERS TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY, IS A PLACE THAT COULD BE A REASONABLE COMPROMISE SOLUTION. AND AT THE END OF TWO YEARS, IF YOU WERE TO FIND THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL AS PROFOUND AS YOU SAY IT IS, THEN YOU REVISIT THE ORDINANCE. BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S GOT A TWO YEAR WINDOW, AND I'D MUCH PREFER TO GO HALFWAY AND ELIMINATE SOME OF THE BLOWERS OR ELIMINATE SOME OF THE HOURS THAT BLOWERS CAN BE BLOWN, RATHER THAN GOING FROM 60 MILES AN HOUR DOWN TO FULL FREEZE. AND YOU CAN'T USE THEM AT ALL. AND I THINK THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WOULD BE BETTER SERVED BY A COMPROMISE PROPOSAL THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE THOSE THINGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. HEY, HUGH CAULEY. GOOD EVENING, JUDITH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES. GOOD EVENING, TOM. BOY. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. UM, MY NAME IS HUGH CAULEY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE CONVERSATION. THE, UM, I, I HEARD THAT THE, THE, THE COMMENTS ABOUT IT'S SPLIT 50 50 AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS WHO YOU SPEAK TO AT ANY GIVEN TIME. UM, WE, WE, AND I'LL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON MY STREET, BRIAN STREET, UM, THE RESIDENTS WERE REALLY AS A WHOLE NOT AWARE OF THE BLOWER LAW A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I GOT THE, I READ THE [01:50:01] E-BLAST, THEY CAME DOWN AND WE STARTED TO SHARE THAT, UM, THE, THE PROPOSED LAW WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. AND OUT OF 12 HOUSES, NONE OF THE HOUSES WERE AWARE OF THE, THE BLOWER LAW OR THE PROPOSAL. AND THE, SO, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO PAUL BRIEFLY, AND I, I I MENTIONED THAT, AND HE SUGGESTED THAT WE SET UP A MEETING WITH THE C A C MEMBERS, AND WE MET, UH, BARBARA CURLING, WHO'S BEEN A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE TOWN, AND MYSELF MET WITH, UM, MIKE SIEGEL AND THERESA TORY OF THE C A C. WE LISTENED TO THEIR POSITION AND WE HADN'T, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AS A PERSON THAT THAT WA YOU KNOW, KIND OF TRIES TO WATCH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE TOWN, UM, I LISTENED TO THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR PROPOSAL, AND WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE INFORMATION BACK TO THE, THE, THE STREET AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENCE. WHEN WE DID THAT, OUR RESPONSE WAS NOT 50 50, IT WAS 100% AGAINST THE PROPOSED LAW. AND WHEN WE CAME BACK, UM, AND WE SHARED OUR, OUR, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE RESIDENTS ON OUR TOWN AND TO THE POINT WHERE THE RESIDENTS SIGNED A, A, A, A PETITIONER A DOCUMENT THAT SAYING THEY WERE AGAINST THAT PROPOSED LAW. SO WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO DO, IT'S, AND, AND I WAS LOOKING AROUND ON, AS THE MEETING WAS GOING ON, IT'S NOW NINE 30 AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE MY FIVE MINUTES, NONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS CAN GET ON EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, BARBARA'S WATCHING. AND, AND BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE KIDS, THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN DO AND SHARE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WAIT TWO HOURS TO SHARE. AND, AND SO LIMITED VIEWPOINT IS PRESENTED ON BEHALF OF OUR STREET. WHAT OUR, THE RESIDENTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED WAS A PROGRESSIVE PLAN, A PROGRESSIVE PLAN OR MPROMISE GENERATING VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE COMBINED WITH EDUCATION, WAITING FOR THE EQUIPMENT TO, TO, TO IMPROVE THE TECHNICAL BATTERY EQUIPMENT, TO IMPROVE OVER TIME AND COME UP WITH A, A PROGRESSIVE COMPROMISE THAT THE RESIDENTS COULD, THAT WASN'T OVER RESTRICTED, THAT WASN'T REALLY INVASIVE. YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT A PLAN THAT'S FINANCIALLY BURDENSOME TO THE TOWN, IT'S ALSO BURDENSOME TO PEOPLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT IT. IT'S, LET'S LOOK AT A COMPROMISE TO MAKE A VOLUNTARY SO, UH, FINER, WHEN I HEARD YOU START TALKING ABOUT A COMPROMISE, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I THINK MONITORING IT AND, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUT AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WITHOUT INSULTING EACH OTHER, WITHOUT WRITING INSULTING REMARKS AND, AND RECOGNIZING WE ALL CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO, YOU KNOW, UM, OUR RESIDENTS HERE WE ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A COMPROMISE ON A PROGRESSIVE PLAN THAT MOVES FORWARD IN SOME DIRECTION. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I JUST THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD. YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY WE'VE SEEN TO LOSE, THE ABILITY TO AGREE TO DISAGREE. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S, THAT'S LOST. UM, IT'S MY WAY OR NO WAY. AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE WE CAN FUNCTION BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE, IT'S GOTTA BE A, A VOLUNTARY MOVE FORWARD. LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ELSE IN LIFE, IF WE DO IT VOLUNTARY, WE CAN'T FIND OUR WAY BY FINDING OUR NEIGHBORS, HAVING ONE NEIGHBOR CALLING ANOTHER NEIGHBOR. AND, AND THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA CALL MY NEIGHBORS, BUT IF THERE'S A COMPROMISE BEING PROPOSED, AND, AND I HOPE THE TOWN BOARD TAKES THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME AND THANKS FOR THE, ALL THE WORK. YOU, AND, AND I JUST WANNA TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY OFF, OFF TOPIC TO THANK THE TOWN BOARD AND, AND THE, THE MANAGERS THAT ARE ON, UH, THE, THE TOWN CLERK, RICHARD FAWN AND HIS STAFF FOR THE FANTASTIC JOB, JOHN, OVER THE LAST YEAR. FANTASTIC. AND I LIKE TO TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. SO, UH, GINA, FRANCIS, KEN, UM, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING REALLY. AND YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, DIANE, IF YOU'RE ON THERE, I DON'T SEE A PICTURE. AND, AND THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU ALL FOR A GREAT JOB THIS LAST YEAR. THANKS A LOT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU JOHN. AND, AND JUDITH, THANK YOU JUDI, YOU, IF YOU COULD HAVE THAT REREAD FROM THE RECORD, WE'D APPRECIATE IT. , ACTUALLY, YOU DIDN'T MENTION JIMMY. THAT'S MY TIME. I GOTTA GO, YOU KNOW, THANK, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, I JUST WANTED MENTION JERRY BURNS IS OUT THERE, THE TENNIS COURTS ARE LOOKING GOOD, JERRY, THANKS A LOT. WE APPRECIATE IT. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ONE OTHER LOOK. LAST YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, DURING THE PANDEMIC, I DID A LOT OF BICYCLING AROUND, UH, [01:55:01] YOU KNOW, UH, THE COUNTY AND I BICYCLED IN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE LEAF BLOWER LAWS AND SAY THAT IT'S STRONG. AND FREQUENTLY I WOULD, UM, HERE LEAF BLOWERS IN COMMUNITIES THAT SAY THEY DON'T HAVE IT. SO THE PROBLEM WITH THE BANDS IN SOME COMMUNITIES IS THEY'RE NOT ENFORCED. IF WE, UM, WOULD CONSIDER A COMPROMISE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT GONNA HELP SATISFY EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO WANT A LEAF BLOWER BIN. BUT WE MIGHT HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING EVERYBODY TO COMPLY WITH, UM, A COMPROMISE LAW BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SAYING, YOU, NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T DO IT EVER. WE'RE BASICALLY GIVING PEOPLE OPTIONS. SO IF, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WE'D BE IN IT ON FOUR DAYS DURING THE WEEK JUST AS A, YOU KNOW, INITIAL, YOU KNOW, STEPS AND SOMEBODY, UM, IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THE POLICE COULD GO UP TO THEM, THEY COULD TELL THEM WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE. WE COULD SPEAK TO, UM, HOMEOWNERS, TELL THEM WHAT THEY SHOULD BE SAYING TO THE LANDSCAPERS OR HOW THEY SHOULD ACT. SO I HAVE A FEELING THAT WE'RE GONNA GET MORE COMPLIANCE, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA LEARN HOW TO, UM, UH, DO A BETTER JOB OF ENFORCING A LAW THAT THE TOWN BOARD WOULD, WOULD ENACT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I HOPE, UM, THE COMMUNITY WOULD, WOULD AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, JUST GO ANYWHERE WHERE THIS, WHERE THEY CLAIM THEY HAVE LEAFBLOWER LAWS AND, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S NOT BEING ENFORCED. AND THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT LAW TO ENFORCE UNLESS WE GET, UNLESS WE EDUCATE AND UNLESS WE, UM, GET EVERYBODY, UH, WORKING TOGETHER AS, AS A TEAM. WELL, PAUL, PLEASE PAUL, PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS ARE RELIGIOUS DAYS FOR MANY, MANY PEOPLE. AND TO, UH, ALLOW THE USE OF OF LEAF BLOWERS, UH, UH, ONLY ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS IS, WOULD, WOULD, WOULD BE VERY INSENSITIVE TO PEOPLE WHO LOOK FORWARD TO QUALITY FAMILY TIME ON THE WEEKENDS, AS WELL AS THOSE WHO OBSERVE SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS AS RELIGIOUS DAYS. SO A COMPROMISE, UM, WOULD, WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF DAYS AS WELL AS HOURS. AND I HOPE THAT THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. YOU KNOW, I JUST, YOU HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER. IT'S A CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DISCUSSING IT AND OBVIOUS OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT MAKES THE MOST, YOU KNOW, THE MOST SENSE. YEAH. BUT I'M SURE THAT PEOPLE WOULD NOT AGREE TO, UM, ALLOW LEAF BLOWERS ONLY ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. UM, I, I, I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S NOT THE COMPROMISE, YOU KNOW, A CONSIDERATE, A CONSIDERATE OPTION. OKAY, NEXT SPEAKER IS MURRAY BODEN. I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD TONIGHT. ONE THING YOU HAVEN'T HEARD TONIGHT, BUT AUTO, ALL AUTOMOBILES IN THE WORLD WILL BE ELECTRIC BEFORE YOU KNOW IT. WHY THIS LITTLE THING CALLED GLOBAL WARMING? THAT MEANS YOU STOP USING FOSSIL FUELS EVERYWHERE YOU CAN. GOLF COURSES HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. AND BEFORE 19 47, 50, 60 LEAVES CAME OFF THE COURSE WITHOUT A BLOWER. THE GRASS GOT MOWED WITHOUT A MECHANICAL BLOWER. WHATEVER YOU PASS HERE TONIGHT OR YOU CONSIDER PASSING IN TWO YEARS, YOU'LL ALL BLOWERS, YOU'LL BAN ALL MECHANICAL GRASS CUTTERS AND A LOT MORE BECAUSE GLOBAL WARMING IS OVERWHELMING THE EARTH, NOT JUST THE UNITED STATES. READ THE INTERNATIONAL NEWS NEWSPAPERS, AUSTRALIA, GREAT BRITAIN, EUROPE, CHINA, INDIA, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS GOING ELECTRIC. SO WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, BE AWARE BY THE TIME THIS LAW EXPIRES IN TWO YEARS, WE'LL PROBABLY BAN ALL BLOWERS. WHETHER ELECTRIC OR GAS WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. PARKS DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF GRASS THEY'RE CUTTING. RICH FARM TOLD ME THAT THEY'RE NOT PLANTING GRASS IN CERTAIN AREAS ALREADY. THEY'RE LETTING WILDLY FLOWERS GROW. [02:00:02] I WON'T BE AROUND TO SEE THE END OF THIS, BUT MY GRANDCHILDREN WERE WILL BE AND YOUR GRANDCHILDREN OR CHILDREN WILL BE HERE. THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER WE ARE LIVING THROUGH. YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT THIS KIND OF MAINTENANCE, GO BACK TO THE RAKE. GO BACK TO THE BROOM, GO BACK TO THE HAND MOWER. THOSE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT, BOUGHT A YELLOW CAB MEDALLION FOR A MILLION DOLLARS IN NEW YORK CITY BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY'D MAKE A LIVING. CAN'T GIVE 'EM AWAY. WE ARE LIVING IN AN ERA OF INCREDIBLE CHANGE. INCREDIBLE. MM-HMM , EVERYTHING YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT, PAUL MY HOUSE WON'T LOOK THE SAME, YOUR HOUSE WILL NOT LOOK THE SAME. NOBODY'S HOUSE WILL LOOK THE SAME. THEY'RE ALREADY NEGOTIATING FOR AN ELECTRIC POLICE CAR. BUT THE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT WHEN YOU CHARGE, IT WILL HAVE TO BE CHARGED FROM STORAGE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THE ELECTRICITY HERE EXCEPT AT NIGHT. WHICH IS WHY CON EDISON IS MOVING THE POLES UP BECAUSE THEY CAN RAISE THE VOLTAGE. THEY'RE CHECKING THE PIPES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT LEAKING. CON EDISON IS OFFERING ALL KINDS OF INCENTIVES TO CUT DOWN ELECTRIC USE THIS SUMMER. 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T BRING IT HERE. SCARY STUFF. NOBODY'S TALKED ABOUT IT TONIGHT. YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE REST OF THE STUFF, ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN TRUE ON BOTH SIDES. YOUR HOUSE IS NOT GONNA LOOK THE SAME. GARRETT ALREADY HAS TOLD THE PLANNING BOARD, WE PICKED DIFFERENT TREES NOW BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING. GARRETT TELL HIM NEW TREES BECAUSE OF DROUGHT I'VE TAKEN OUT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, ALL THE PAKISTAN I PLANTED YEARS AGO, SO I COULD, DIDN'T HAVE TO MOW. NOW I HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE RA 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF WATER FOR THE TREES. NOT AN EASY JOB AT ALL. THINK ABOUT IT. READ THE PAPER, LISTEN TO THE NEWS. THE BIGGEST STORY ON TV COMMENTARY IS GLOBAL WARMING. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. AND ALL BLOWERS WILL BE BANNED EVERY TIME. AND ALL POWER MOWERS WILL BE BANNED EVERYWHERE. IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU HEARD BEFORE. I'M DEAF BECAUSE OF NOISE. I THINK ABOUT IT. I'M FINISHED HERE. I'VE WRITTEN THIS BEFORE. MY MIND ISN'T WORKING AS WELL AS IT USED TO PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT THE WORLD WE GREW UP IN. GREEN GRASS WILL BE OUT OF FASHION. OKAY, THANK YOU MARY. YOU HAVE, UH, 15 SECONDS. IN 15 SECONDS. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WHO'VE BEEN PHENOMENALLY HELPFUL IN DISCUSSING THIS WITH ME AND VARIOUS OTHER ISSUES. GOT A GREAT BUNCH OF SUPERVISORS. THANKS GUYS. THANK YOU. HEY SEVERINO. HELLO. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MATT SEVERINO. UH, I AM THE, UH, PROPERTY MANAGER AT SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB. BEEN THERE FOR, UH, THE LAST 30 YEARS MANAGING THE CLUB. UM, I GOT TOGETHER WITH A GROUP OF, UH, MANAGEMENT FROM THE SIX OTHER CLUBS IN GREENBURG. UM, GOT TOGETHER, WE ALL WROTE LETTERS, UH, SUBMITTED THEM TO THE TOWN BOARD, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. UM, WE ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALSO INCLUDED, UH, NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE, UH, MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THAT MANAGE, UH, CONDOS AND APARTMENTS ALONG EAST HARTSDALE AND CENTRAL AVENUE. UM, WHO SHARED SIMILAR CONCERNS WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY THIS TOTAL BAN ON BLOWERS WOULD CAUSE. YOU KNOW, TO EACH OF US ON A DAILY BASIS, PUT A PACKAGE OF LETTERS THAT WERE WRITTEN INDIVIDUALLY. UH, I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE GROUP, THE LETTERS SPEAK FOR THE GROUP, FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL. UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST READ OURS. IT'S ONLY A FEW SENTENCES. UM, IT SAID, UH, ON BEHALF OF OUR 500 MEMBERS, SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR OPINION ON THE ROSE LEAF BELOW. LOWER BAND IN GREENBURG, THE BAND HAS PROPOSED WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR OPERATION AND MAKE IT EXCEEDINGLY UNREASONABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR 130 ACRE PROPERTY IN A SAFE, EFFICIENT, AND COST EFFECTIVE MANNER. LOWERS ARE ESSENTIAL TO KEEP OUR HILLY TERRAIN FREE OF DEBRIS SUCH AS GRASS CLIPPINGS, LEAVES, TREE BRANCHES, AND ACORNS [02:05:01] THAT ARE PRESENT ON OUR ENTIRE PROPERTY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. HARDSCAPE AREAS SUCH AS CONCRETE BLACKTOP AND BLUESTONE PADS REQUIRE DAILY CLEANING TO REMOVE DEBRIS AND PROVIDE SAFE ACCESS. MANY MAY BRING COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED LOWER BANDS INCLUDED EXEMPTIONS FOR LARGER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT WOULDN'T BE MANAGEABLE WITHOUT, WITH SUCH A BAN IN PLACE FOR THESE REASONS, WE HAD ASKED THE TOWN BOARD TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL AS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED. UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY ALL THE TALK ABOUT, UH, COMPROMISE I THINK IS, IS WARRANTED. UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I'VE LISTENED TO THESE MEETINGS SINCE THE BEGINNING. UH, WHEN THE C A C PROPOSED IT A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, UM, IT WAS INTRODUCED AS A, A BALANCED, UH, PIECE OF LEGISLATION. I, UH, RESPECTFULLY, TOTALLY DISAGREE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY BALANCE IN, IN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. UM, IF, YOU KNOW, I'VE READ OVER CLOSELY THE IRVINGTON, UH, SCARSDALE, UH, AND MA UH, LEGISLATION. UM, THERE ARE MANY OTHER EXEMPTIONS AND, UH, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S GIVE AND TAKE IN THERE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS BAND, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, THE IRVINGTON BAND SPECIFICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS, HAS, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THERE, THERE'S ISSUES WITH, WITH HAVING THESE IN ENFORCEMENT, BUT THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL GOLF COURSE APPLICATION, UH, BASED ON NEEDS. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, STILL NEEDS TO BE, UH, CERTAINLY ADDRESSED MORE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, A, A, A REPRESENTATIVE PIECE OF LEGISLATION, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, CAN BE DEVISED. UM, I ALSO THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK. YEAH. YEAH. CERTAINLY. UM, YOU KNOW, UM, THE DOCTOR THAT SPOKE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, UH, REDUCING EXPOSURE, REDUCING RISK, LESS RISK EQUALS LESS, LESS EXPOSURE. UM, CERTAINLY THAT, YOU KNOW, PERTAINS TO A LOT OF THINGS IN LIFE BESIDES BACKPACK BLOWERS, UM, YOU KNOW, CELL PHONES, MICROWAVE OVENS. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT PRODUCE, UH, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVE IMPACTS. AND, AND IT'S A MATTER OF, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THEY'RE BEING USED AND, AND, AND, AND RISK ASSESSMENT. AND, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS. UM, I KNOW THERE'S A, A, A, A, A NOISE ISSUE HERE AND, AND THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE BE DRIVING THE BUS MORE THAN ANYTHING, AND A LOT OF THESE OTHER THINGS MIGHT COME UP TO, TO HELP, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT POINT HOME. UM, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD ARGUE THAT, YOU KNOW, PUSHING A BROOM AROUND AND SWEEPING A PARKING LOT WOULD STIR UP AS MANY PARTICULATES AND CAUSE THE, UH, PERSON USING THE BROOM, UH, AS, AS MANY PHYSICAL PROBLEMS AS A BLOWER MIGHT, IF USED PROPERLY WITH PROPER EAR PROTECTION AND EYE PROTECTION, UM, THAT MOST LANDSCAPE PROFESSIONALS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY PROVIDE, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY MANDATE THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES OR THEY SHOULD BE MANDATING THAT ARE, THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES USE. UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN SPEAK TO GOLF COURSES SPECIFICALLY. THAT'S BEEN MY, MY LIFE FOR THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF BALANCE, UH, NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR A BLOWER GOING. UH, CERTAINLY NEIGHBORS DON'T. CERTAINLY THE MEMBERS THAT ARE, ARE PAYING TO PLAY OUR GOLF COURSES DON'T WANT TO HEAR A BLOWER GOING IN AROUND. WE, WE ONLY HAVE A SMALL WINDOW WHERE WE CAN USE THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE PEOPLE GET ON THE COURSE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE AREN'T ABLE TO, SO IT'S NOT A, AN ALL DAY, EVERY DAY TYPE OF THING. UM, YOU KNOW, AND CERTAINLY WHEN YOU MENTION BLOWERS, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE GOES RIGHT TO THIS THOUGHT OF THE, THE OLD TWO CYCLE BLOWER. AND THAT THAT IS THE ONE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, UH, HAS, YOU KNOW, THE MOST NEGATIVE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, HEALTH COMPONENT TO IT. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE, THE NEW ELECTRIC BLOWERS ARE CERTAINLY MUCH CLEANER. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, UM, BLOWERS THAT ARE RUN WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, OFF OF, UH, MACHINES THAT HAVE THE NEW TIER FOUR, UH, ENGINES THAT ARE MUCH, MUCH CLEANER AND, YOU KNOW, UH, OPERATE AT, AT THE HIGHEST, UM, YOU KNOW, AIR POLLUTION QUALITY STANDARDS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE HAVE TODAY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SECONDS MR. SEVERINO. YEP. AND, AND THE ONLY ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ECHO IS THAT, UM, UH, THERE WAS, THERE WAS MENTION THAT, THAT, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN COMPONENTS OF THIS THING WOULD BE TO REACH OUT TO THE CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS. AND I DID PERSONALLY AND NOT ONE OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS THAT I TALKED TO WAS BROUGHT IN, NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS THING. I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO GO ON THE WEBSITE AND TRY TO FIND MENTION OF THIS ANYWHERE NEAR THE FRONT PAGE OR EVEN A LINK TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. AND IT, IT SEEMS TO BE A, A, A PRETTY WELL KEPT SECRET, AND IT'S EVEN DIFFICULT TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET INFORMATION AND, AND TO PASS IT ALONG. 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S SOMETHING [02:10:01] THAT'S BURIED THERE. AND I DON'T THINK IT, IT'S REALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY THINKING. THANK YOU. I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. UH, THAT WAS AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO US. ARE YOU SS G C GROUNDS? I AM. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU SENT US SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG BLOWER BAN OPPOSITION LETTER AND LISTED A, UM, A, A NUMBER, I THINK 11 GOLF GOLF COURSES AND, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEXES. UH, BUT IT'S REALLY, IT'S BASICALLY ANONYMOUS THE WAY IT WAS SENT. SO IF, IF YOU HAVE THAT EMAIL, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR YOU. YEAH. THERE, THERE WAS AN, UH, UH, THERE WAS AN ATTACHMENT ON THERE, UM, AND THERE, THERE WERE LETTERS FROM, UH, UH, GRANADA CONDOMINIUMS, HARTSDALE MANOR, HILLSIDE CONDOMINIUMS, NOEL WOOD COUNTRY CLUB, METROPOLIS COUNTRY CLUB, SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB, SCARSDALE MEADOWS, SCARSDALE RIDGE, SUNNYDALE COUNTRY CLUB, ST. ANDREW'S COUNTRY CLUB, AND WINDOVER APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT WAS AN ATTACHMENT WITH, UH, 11 SEPARATE LETTERS ON THERE. CORRECT. BUT THEN IN THE LISTING OF THE, OF THAT EMAIL, IT, IT JUST ENDS WITH, THANK YOU. WITHOUT A NAME TO IT. SO NOW WE HAVE A NAME TO GO WITH WHAT SC GROUND, UH, C S G C GROUNDS IS. SO THAT'S HELPFUL THAT WE COULD ATTRIBUTE THAT TO A REAL PERSON, UH, WHEN WE'RE CREATING A RECORD ON THIS. YEAH. WE JUST THOUGHT WE WOULD PUT THE, PUT THE NAMES TOGETHER AND, UH, PUT A BLANKET STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE REPRESENT OVER, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CARE FOR OVER 750 ACRES OF PROPERTY IN GREENBURG AND 907 30 YEP. 7 730 AND OVER 900 HOUSING UNITS. BUT THAT, THAT, THAT TEXT DID NOT HAVE A, UH, HAVE A NAME TO IT. SO YOU'RE PUTTING A NAME TO IT. DO YOU NEED ANY OTHER INFORMATION OR? NO, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST LIKE TO HAVE A CLEAN RECORD, WHAT I, WHAT I USUALLY CALL A CLEAN RECORD, THAT WHEN SOMEBODY SENDS US AND MAKE THIS PART OF A RECORD AND DOESN'T HAVE A NAME TO IT, AND JUST A NON-DESCRIPT, UH, EMAIL ADDRESS. UM, I JUST WANTED TO TRY AND CLEAN THAT UP. I THINK IF YOU WANNA RESEND IT, YOU COULD ALWAYS RESEND IT WITH A NAME AT THE BOTTOM OF IT. I CAN DO THAT. THANKS. I HAD A, I HAD A, A QUESTION. UM, I ASKED CORY RAVEN EARLIER IF THE GOLF COURSES WOULD BE, UH, RECEPTIVE TO ANY COMPROMISE. AND I'M MORE SO WONDERING IF, UM, IF YOU ARE, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THE TOWN BOARD WITH, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU COULD LIVE WITH, WHICH WOULD GET US TO A QUALITY OF LIFE THAT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WON'T CREATE, YOU KNOW, ENORMOUS HARDSHIPS FOR, FOR THE CLUBS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, CERTAINLY I HAVE A, A, YOU KNOW, BETTER IDEA OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS AND, AND, AND I COULD, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I COULD MEET WITH THE OTHER SUPERINTENDENTS AND PROPERTY MANAGERS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH, WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, AND, AND WE'RE ALL VERY SIMILAR IN TERMS OF, OF EXACTLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR USE PATTERNS ARE. AND, AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM FOR COMPROMISE. AND, AND I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. I JUST THINK A TOTAL BAN AT THIS POINT, AND WE ALL THINK A TOTAL BAN AT THIS POINT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS A FIRST STEP IS EXTREMELY RADICAL, AND, UM, WOULD CAUSE, YOU KNOW, EXTREME HARDSHIP AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, INABILITY TO REALLY DO OUR JOBS. OKAY. SO IF YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, GET, WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE US LIKE A, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU COULD LIVE WITH? UH, LET ME GET BACK. I'LL, YOU KNOW, I'LL GET BACK TO THE GROUP OF, OF, OF SIX THAT I REPRESENT NOW. UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WHEN, WHEN, YOU KNOW, OUR GROUP IS LARGE PROPERTY MANAGERS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONDO AND APARTMENT, UH, PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SAY THEY USE 'EM, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY, ALL DAY. THEY USE IT DURING SNOW, THEY USE IT HERE AND THERE. THE GOLF COURSES, I THINK WOULD BE REALLY SIMILAR IN WHAT, YOU KNOW, I COULD GET THAT PRETTY QUICKLY. UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN THINK WE COULD REALLY COME UP WITH, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, A SINGULAR STATEMENT FROM, FROM THE WHOLE GROUP. BUT CERTAINLY THE, THE SIX GOLF CLUBS, YOU KNOW, NOEL WOULD BE HALF IN GREENBURG. UM, YOU KNOW, I COULD COME UP WITH PRETTY QUICKLY IN, YOU KNOW, IN A WEEK OR SO. THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DISCUSS THIS AGAIN, YOU KNOW. OKAY. IN TWO WEEKS. THIS IS GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO PROBLEM. WE HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR SPEAKING ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. SO JUDITH, I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND OR GET, UH, OUR COMMISSIONERS TO RESPOND TO JEFF SHERWIN'S QUESTION IN TERMS OF, UM, THE TOWN BUDGET. AND I THINK THAT, UM, MS. TORY WANTED TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION ABOUT NOISE FROM, UM, [02:15:01] UH, LAWNMOWERS. I WANTED TO GIVE HER THAT OPPORTUNITY IF THE BOARD'S OKAY WITH THAT. TERRY, DID YOU WANNA? SURE. UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY WHAT, FIRST OFF, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT BLOWERS, NOT ALL DEVICES. AND THE OTHER THING WAS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH BLOWERS, UM, WELL, NOISE IS A COMPONENT AND IT WAS ADDRESSED IN TERMS OF THE HEALTH IMPACTS. THE PARTICULATE IMPACT IS PROBABLY, IN MANY WAYS EQUAL OR GREATER, I THINK GREATER THAN THE NOISE ISSUE. AND WHEN YOU USE A BROOM, YOU DON'T HAVE THE FORCE THAT YOU HAVE WITH A BLOWER. AND ALSO TO REMEDIATE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING IS THE C A C ACTUALLY HAD A MEMBER LOOK LAST YEAR AT OVER 300, 305, UH, LEAF BLOWERS THAT WERE ON THE MARKET IN THIS AREA. HE WENT OVER THE MANUFACTURER'S SPECIFICATIONS ON ALL OF THEM, AND ONLY FIVE OF THEM, ELECTRIC ONES HAD, UM, NOISE LEVELS THAT WERE AT THE 55 DECIBEL LEVEL OR LOWER. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE'S A MISNOMER, AND THERE'S TWO THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ONE IS THE AIR POLLUTION GIVEN OUT BY THE DEVICE. AND AS THE GENTLEMAN FROM, UH, SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB POINTED OUT, THE GAS BLOWERS EVEN NOW ARE MUCH LESS POLLUTING THAN THEY WERE 15, 20 YEARS AGO, EVEN 10 YEARS AGO. THE LOT OF THEM ARE NOW FOUR CYLINDER BLOWERS. BUT WHETHER IT'S A GAS BLOWER OR AN ELECTRIC BLOWER, THE WIND FORCE THAT COMES OUT IS, IS AT A HURRICANE FORCE. IT PUSHES THOSE PARTICULATES INTO THE AIR AT A HURRICANE FORCE WIND, AND IT ALSO TOTALLY DETERIORATES THE SOIL AND THAT, AND THE ORGANISMS THAT LIVE IN THE SOIL. AND THAT IS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S POWERED BY A BATTERY, GAS, OR ELECTRIC. THANK YOU. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF EITHER JERRY OR WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON, UM, MR. SHERWIN'S OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO, UH, MAINTAIN, UM, FACILITIES IN THE ABSENCE OF BLOWERS, AND WHETHER THAT'S I'LL, I'LL TRY TO SPEAK TO D P W, MR. SHERWIN, HOW ARE YOU, SIR? UM, SO D P W IS GONNA COMPLY WITH THE, UH, THE REGULATIONS SET FORTH. WE'VE MADE NO BUDGETARY CHANGES. UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DIFFERENT THAN PROBABLY PARKS IN SOME RESPECTS. WE DON'T, UM, OTHER THAN OUR BUILDINGS, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH PARKS, WE'RE DEALING WITH ROADWAYS AND OTHERWISE. SO WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE GOTTA DO TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE. UH, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN VARIANCES IN THE, IN THE LAW THAT WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE, UH, ADVANTAGE OF FROM TIME TO TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TREE CUTTING AND SURELY THE SNOW REMOVAL. UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WANT TO COME ON IN OR MEET, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO. HOPE THAT HELPS. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? UH, YEAH, UH, TIM, I THINK THEY WANTED ME TO TALK, UH, ON PARKS TO ANSWER JEFF'S QUESTION. AND, UH, AT THIS POINT, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY BUDGETARY IMPACTS BY US BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, REMOVED WITH THE EXCEPTIONS. UM, OUR OPERATIONS DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, UH, DOES NOT NEED, UH, THE LEAF FLOW IS AS MUCH. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE, UH, MANY ROADS, SIDEWALKS, PARKING LOTS, THAT AT TIMES WE FEEL, UH, THE, THE, THE, THAT MATERIAL HAS TO GET REMOVED, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY. UM, WE ALSO WERE CONCERNED, UH, DURING THE LEAF COLLECTION SEASON, UH, BASED ON OUR LIMITED STAFF THAT WE HAVE NOW, THAT SOMETIMES OUR EQUIPMENT BREAKS DOWN AND WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE DEADLINE. UH, THE PROPOSAL THAT WE MADE FOR AN EXEMPTION IS THAT WE WOULD KEEP A LOG ANYTIME WE WOULD USE IT. UH, OUR INTENT IS, IS TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, BE AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN. UH, IT WILL FINANCIALLY IMPACT US. AND, AND, AND WE MAY NOT KNOW UNTIL THERE IS A FULL IMPACT EXACTLY HOW MANY EXTRA MAN HOURS WE WILL NEED. IT HASN'T BEEN USED IN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE WORKING FROM A NEW BASIS ON IT. BUT, UH, WE DO FEEL THAT THERE WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, A, AN ADDITIONAL COST OF, UH, MANPOWER IF WE COULDN'T USE THAT EQUIPMENT. UH, UH, FRANCIS, TIM, I'D LIKE TO SAY FIVE THINGS. LET'S SAY SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST. I THINK EVERYONE WHO WANTED TO [02:20:01] SPEAK HAS SPOKEN. UM, YOU SPEAK MIKE. I THINK THIS BE REAL SHORT. UM, MY NAME'S MIKE SIEGEL, S I G A L. I'M VICE CAC. MIKE, CAN YOU HOLD ON ONE SECOND? OH, SURE. SORRY. I JUST WANNA MENTION TO THE BOARD THAT I, I SEE SOME PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE CONFERENCE WHO I DON'T THINK WANNA DISCUSS THIS ISSUE, BUT MAY WANNA DISCUSS ANOTHER ISSUE PERHAPS IN PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I JUST WANTED THE BOARD TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SECOND ROUND OF, OF QUESTIONING. NO, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE A SECOND ROUND, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HOLD IT OVER, RIGHT? OH, YOU, YOU, BECAUSE MIKE ALREADY SPOKE, YOU MEAN? NO, WHY DON'T WE, MIKE, SINCE MIKE, WHY DON'T WE LET MIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SPEAK, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BY THE C A C AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY. NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. UH, THIS WAS SHORT. UH, UM, YOU HEAR THE WORDS ABOUT TOTAL BAN, UH, JUST, AND I'M SURE EVERYONE ON THE BOARD KNOWS THIS. UH, THERE'S A SPRING CLEANUP PERIOD AND A FALL CLEANUP PERIOD WHERE NOTHING IS BANNED, NOTHING WHATSOEVER IS BANNED. THAT ENCOMPASSES 34% OF THE YEAR. UNDER WHAT THE CA C HAS PROPOSED IS A 34% TIME PERIOD IN THE YEAR WHERE THERE IS NO BAN ON ANY TYPE OF BLOWERS. UM, MR. RADY MENTIONED THE LARGE AMOUNT LAW BEING MORE OF A BAN WE HAVE, AND THAT IS CORRECT, BUT WHAT IS THE C A C HAS PROPOSED ALLOWS BLOWERS TO BE USED 150% MORE THAN ENLARGEMENT. THE SECOND THING IS, LOOK PLEASE VERY CAREFULLY AT WHAT PE SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABOUT COMPROMISES. ONE PERSON SAID AT THE BEGINNING, OH, WE SHOULD COMPROMISE AND EXEMPT HOMEOWNERS AND LANDSCAPERS. THERE AIN'T A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE USING BLOWERS OTHER THAN HOMEOWNERS AND LANDSCAPERS. THAT'S NOT MUCH OF A COMPROMISE. SOME PEOPLE SAYING, OH, WE SHOULD HAVE ELECTRIC. THAT'S REALLY BASED ON HISTORY. IT'S NOT THE FACTS TODAY, AS TERRY POINTED OUT, WE LOOKED AT 306 BLOWERS. THEY'VE, ALL OF THE ELECTRICS HAVE CAT, HURRICANE FORCE WINDS, MANY OF 'EM. HURRICANE CATEGORY FOUR AND HURRICANE CAT CATEGORY FIVE. THOSE ARE THE TWO LARGEST CATEGORIES OF HURRICANE WINDS THAT ARE CONSIDERED CATASTROPHIC. UM, THEY ALSO HAVE NOISE LEVELS ABOVE WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. AND YOU'VE HEARD DR. SPA TALK ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF BOTH THE PARTICULARS THAT ARE BLOWN IN THE AIR BY HURRICANE FORCE WINDS THAT GO UP TO A, A BALL FIELD AWAY AND LAST, IN SOME CASES, UP TO 24 HOURS. AND YOU'VE HEARD FROM DR. SPADE THE IMPACTS OF NOISE. AND THAT REALLY BRINGS YOU BACK TO, I THOUGHT WERE THE QUITE CO COMMENTS OF MR. MCGRATH WHO SPOKE AT FIRST. YEAH, IT'S ABOUT 50 50. WHAT FRANCIS SAYS IS TOTALLY ACTIVE, BUT THERE'S AN EVALUATION THAT SEEMS TO ME PROPERLY TO GO ON. UM, THE MEDICAL SCIENCE IS DESCRIBED BY DR. SPATE AS FAR AS WE KNOW. WE FOUND NOTHING TO THE CONTRACT IS ROBUST AND IT'S SOUND. AND ON ONE SIGN YOU HAVE ROBUST AND SOUND MEDICAL SCIENCE ABOUT HOW BLOWERS HARM PEOPLE. AND A KEY HERE IS, IT'S NOT LIKE CELL PHONES. LIKE SOMEONE SAID, YOU CHOOSE WHETHER TO PICK UP YOUR OWN CELL PHONE. YOU DON'T CHOOSE WHETHER SOMEONE WILL BALL FIELD OR WHAT. IT'S GOING TO USE A BLOWER. IT IS AN INVOLUNTARY HARM THAT IS BEING ALLOWED TO OCCUR TO RESIDENTS OF TOWN. AND THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO OTHERS THAN OTHERS, BUT IT'S A HARM TO ALL OF THEM. BUT SOME, UNFORTUNATELY HAVE MORE SUSCEPTIBILITY. AND THE FINAL THING I I SAY IS REGARD TO PAUL'S SUGGESTION THAT THREE DAYS A WEEK THERE BE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN POLLUTE IN THE FALL. YOU CAN POLLUTE IN THE SPRING. YOU CAN ALSO POLLUTE YEAR ROUND, THREE DAYS A WEEK. THAT WOULD BRING THE NUMBER, THE TIME PERIOD FOR WHICH POLLUTION IS ALLOWED IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG UP TO 62.5%. SO WHAT THE C A C HAS PROPOSED IS 150% MORE THAN LARGE AMOUNT LETTING POLLUTION HAPPEN IN THE TOWN 34% OF THE TIME. WHAT THE COMPROMISE IS BEING PROPOSED ON THREE DAYS A WEEK, SORRY, [02:25:01] WE'RE BRINGING IT UP TO 62%. SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S VERY, VERY LITTLE NEW THAT IS COMING INTO INPUTS TO THE TOWN BOARD. UH, WE'VE BEEN, C A C'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER A DECADE. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT INTENSELY, SPENT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND 400 HOURS ON THIS SINCE IT HAS TO BEING DO IT BY THE SUPERVISOR IN 2017. UM, WE ARE NOT SEEING ANY, UH, ALL THE STATEMENTS ABOUT MAYBE PEOPLE WILL CHANGE THEIR MIND AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN THE LAST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS ANYONE CHANGE THEIR MIND ON ANYTHING. IT'S LIKE A COUPLE OF VERY HOT BUTTON NATIONAL ISSUES, WHICH, UM, PEOPLE HAVE ARY VIEWS ON AND DO NOT CHANGE THEIR MIND. AND SO I THINK IT IS NOW, IT'S UP FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO MAKE A DECISION, UM, UH, UH, WHETHER THEY WANNA DO NOTHING, WHETHER THEY WANT TO TAKE THE C A C POSITION AND LET POLLUTION HAPPEN IN THE FALL AND THE SPRING, 34% OF THE TIME WHERE THEY WANT TO TAKE COMPROMISE. THAT POLL WAS TALKING ABOUT LET POLLUTION HAPPEN 62 AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE TIME. I THINK IT'S NOW A, A TOWN BOARD ISSUE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU GOTTA MOVE THE, TO CLOSE THE, I I I WOULD SUGGEST WE, YOU CLOSE THE HEARING AND KEEP IT OPEN FOR 10 DAYS IN YOUR NORMAL COURSE. I ALSO SUGGEST THAT, UM, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THIS ON A WORK SET, LIKE A PUBLIC WORK SESSION, UM, YOU KNOW, MEETING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAKE A DECISION, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY OR, UM, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, OR, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A COMPROMISE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. AND THIS WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE SOME FINALITY TO THIS. YEAH. NICE. WHAT ABOUT, SAY, UM, WHAT ABOUT, UH, TWO WEEKS FROM YESTERDAY? WELL, I CAN, I HAVE 20 SECONDS. IT'LL LITERALLY TAKE 20 SECONDS. OKAY. UH, I, I, I, I, I'M OKAY WITH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO LAW IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK TO PASS SOMETHING NOW THAT WE'VE ENTERED INTO THE, THE SEASON, IF YOU WILL, OF, OF, OF LANDSCAPING TO DO SOMETHING NOW OR NEXT MONTH, WOULD BE NOT FAIR TO HOMEOWNERS AND LANDSCAPERS AS THEY'VE ALREADY ENTERED INTO CONTRACTS WITH LANDSCAPERS, THE HOMEOWNERS AND LANDSCAPERS WOULD HAVE VERY LITTLE TIME TO, TO REACT TO, TO A NEW LAW THROWN AT THEM, YOU KNOW, IN WHAT WOULD BE MAYBE THE MIDDLE OF, TO THE END OF MAY. UH, IT'S GOT A 60, IT'S GOT A 60 DAY, IT'S GOT A 60 DAY. ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO GET THE PUBLIC COMMENT, ALRIGHT? WE DIDN'T SCHEDULE THIS MEETING SOLELY AS A PUBLIC HEARING ON LEAF LEAF BLOWERS AND NO OTHER BUSINESS, RIGHT? SO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE JUST ANOTHER COMMENT. WE DID START A SECOND ROUND, BASICALLY. UH, AND THIS IS WHERE THINGS BASICALLY GET OUTTA CONTROL. WHAT I'M HEARING, IT'S NOT OUTTA CONTROL BECAUSE WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MIKE IS THEY WANT AN UP AND DOWN VOTE ON THE C A C PROPOSAL. UM, IT'S NOT IN THE, IT'S NOT IN THE FORM THAT WE NOTICED AT THE MEETING ANYWAY, THE HEARING ANYWAY. SO THERE WILL BE SOME TYPE OF A MODIFICATION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT. SO WHY DON'T WE, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN. I WOULD SUGGEST TWO WEEKS AND US HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONG OURSELVES AS TO, YOU KNOW, IS THERE, IS THERE A AFFIRMATIVE VOTE FOR YES OR NO ON THE PROPOSAL AS, AS WRITTEN, WHICH NOW INCLUDES AN EXEMPTION FOR THE HARTSDALE PUBLIC PARKING DISTRICT. SO THERE'S ANOTHER EXEMPTION. UM, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WHEN YOU HAVE EXEMPTIONS FOR TOWN PROPERTY, WHEN YOU HAVE EXEMPTIONS FOR THE PARKING DISTRICT, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE A, UM, UH, WELL, FOR THE TOWN PROPERTIES YOU HAVE THE, THE, UM, PARKS AND REC AND D P W, UH, THE GOLF COURSES. MY GUESS IS IF YOU TAKE THIS HARD, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS LINE, THEY'RE GOING TO SUE. UM, MAYBE THEY'LL WIN, MAYBE THEY WON'T CEMETERIES. I'M SURPRISED THERE'S NOBODY FROM A CEMETERY HERE. UH, AND YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE, BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES EXEMPTIONS FOR THE TOWN, IT'S VERY HARD FOR US TO SAY THERE SHOULDN'T BE EXEMPTIONS FOR OTHER ENTITIES, WHICH SAYS IT'S A HARDSHIP, WHICH IS MY POSITION THAT I'VE TAKEN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, IS THAT I DID NOT WANT US TO IMPOSE ON RESIDENTS WHAT THE TOWN WOULDN'T IMPOSE ON ITSELF. SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY WIND UP WITH A SITUATION WHERE HOMEOWNERS ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS LAW IMPOSED ON IT. [02:30:01] BUT THE TOWN IS EXEMPTING ITSELF. IT'S EXEMPTING, THE HARTSDALE PUBLIC PARKING DISTRICT. EVENTUALLY IT'LL EXEMPT THE, THE GOLF COURSES. EVENTUALLY IT'S GONNA EXEMPT THE CEMETERIES. AND WHO IN THIS TOWN DOESN'T LIVE NEAR ONE OF THOSE EXEMPT PROPERTIES. SO THEY'LL BE HAVE, HAVE TO LIVE, LISTEN TO IT WHILE THEY CAN'T USE THE BLOWERS THEMSELVES. AND THAT'S, AND, BUT I'M HEARING IT'S A FRUSTRATION AND IT'S GOTTA BE FRUSTRATING FOR THE C A C I UNDERSTAND IT. UH, IF THEY WANT AN UPPER DOWN VOTE ON THE PROPOSAL AS WRITTEN WITHOUT COMPROMISE, FURTHER COMPROMISE. 'CAUSE THERE IS COMPROMISE IN IT. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO THAT AND SEE WHERE IT GOES. BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT WE JUST NEED CLOSURE FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING SO WE CAN GET TO THE REST OF THE BUSINESS. THE, THE ONLY THING I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT WE HA, WE STATE THAT TWO WEEKS FROM YESTERDAY, WE WOULD, UH, PUT THIS ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA, AND THEN THE TOWN BOARD COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ON, UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN UP OR DOWN VOTE, BUT IF, IF WE'RE, UH, LEANING TOWARDS COMPROMISE, WE COULD THEN, UM, COME UP WITH A CONCEPT FOR A CO A COMPROMISE PROPOSAL. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD HAVE TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, ON A, YOU KNOW, A COMPROMISE PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ALSO WHEN PETER WAS MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ADOPT A LAW, YOU HAVE TO FILE IT WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE. AND THEN USUALLY THERE'S, UH, WITH LOCAL LAWS, THERE'S A TIME PERIOD BEFORE A LAW IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IS AN ACTIVE, BUT I JUST, I'M JUST SORT OF HOPING THAT IF THE BOARD IS INTERESTED IN, UM, YOU KNOW, LET, LET'S ASSUME, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF THIS DISCUSSION, THAT THE BOARD WOULD BE RECEPTIVE TO A COMPROMISE PROPOSAL. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE, SINCE WE'RE WORKING ON IT, IF WE SEE IF WE COULD REACH A CONSENSUS AS A BOARD, WHAT WE WANNA DO, AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE THE HEARING AND NOTHING HAPPENED. AND THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, WE, AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE COULD HAVE A, A PROPOSED A PROPOSAL, UM, THAT WE COULD SCHEDULE FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING, AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL FEEL THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WELL, THAT WOULD BE THE, THAT WOULD BE A TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION AT A WORK SESSION. BUT AT, AT THIS POINT, WE NEED TO GET TO THE BUSINESS OF THE REST OF THE MEETING. YEAH, BUT THIS IS ALSO THE BUSINESS OF THE, THE, THE TOWN. I UNDERSTAND. BUT SO YEAH. SO LET, SO WHY DON'T, WOULD, WOULD ANY, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS IF WE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TWO WEEKS, WOULD YOU EVER, UH, JUST PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR A WORK SESSION? SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED. COULD WE PICK LIKE A DAY NOW, YOU KNOW, WOULD THE BOARD HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO PICKING A DAY, YOU KNOW, NOW PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN EVERYBODY HERE, THEY COULD ATTEND THE, THE, THAT WORK SESSION. THEY COULD OBSERVE US DISCUSSING IT, AND IF PEOPLE HAVE THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS, THEY COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR COMMENT, MAYBE, MAYBE EVERYBODY WILL SAY, THIS IS, SEEMS LIKE THE TOWN IS DOING WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. SO, WELL, I'M JUST SAYING PICK A DAY, ANY DAY THAT THE BOARD WANTS, AND THEN JUDITH COULD PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR. OR JOAN, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN TWO WEEKS? WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN TWO WEEKS. THAT, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. OKAY. SO JOAN, UH, IF YOU COULD PUT IT ON THE WORK SESSION ABOUT TWO WEEKS FROM YESTERDAY. OKAY, WILL DO. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE HEARING? NO, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'LL FOLLOW YOUR ADVICE. WE'LL, UH, CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR 10 DAYS. OKAY. YOU'RE MAKING THAT MOTION? YES. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. . NEXT IS PUBLIC COMMENT. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. QUESTION. WILL LEAVING THE RECORD OPEN FOR 10 DAYS ALLOW FOR, UH, AMPLE TIME FOR THE, THIS DISCUSSION TO BE HELD, UM, UH, AT, AT THE WORK SESSION IN TWO WEEKS? YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WHO DO YOU HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? JUDITH. HI. GOOD BARBARA. THANK YOU BARBARA [ PUBLIC COMMENT Advance signup via PublicComment@GreenburghNY.com is required. See instructions on first page. A three minute limit per speaker will be strictly enforced. No interruptions by Town Board members, the Town Clerk or the public will be permitted. Any questions on agenda items should be asked at this time. Department Heads have the option of leaving the meeting following Public Comment. Therefore, if anyone has questions that are related to resolutions/items on the agenda involving a specific Department Head, those questions should be raised at this time] FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. BARBARA, THANK YOU. PATRICIA WEAM RAISED HER HAND. YES. PAT, WE HAVE YOU ON, UM, UH, WE HAVE TASHA YOUNG, [02:35:02] AND THEN, UM, PAT WEEMS, MURRAY BODEN, MICHELLE BROWN IN THAT ORDER. OKAY, SO TASHA YOUNG. OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE THREE MINUTE PERIOD AND THEN, UM, IF THERE'S TIME, PEOPLE ARE GONNA SPEAK AGAIN. IS THAT HOW WE'RE HANDLING THIS ACCORDING TO OUR RULES? YES. AT THE END OF THE MEETING. THANKS. SO MS. YOUNG IS FIRST CORRECT? SO MS. YOUNG, ARE YOU THERE? IS SHE STILL THERE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE HEAR YOU NOW. OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UM, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEWLY APPOINTED COMMISSIONER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RE RESOURCES, TERRENCE JACKSON. UM, I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THIS, FOR THIS, UH, PERIOD IN REGARDS TO THE B E S S THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST NIGHT, OR THE BATTERY STORAGE IN GREENBURG. UM, IT SEEMS TO BE GOOD SCIENCE, UH, BASED ON STORING ELECTRICITY AT NIGHT WHEN IT'S CHEAPER AND SELLING IT BACK WHEN IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE. UM, AND I WANT, I'M WONDERING, IS THIS A COST SAVING FOR THE TOWN? AND, UM, SECONDLY I WANTED TO KNOW, UM, IS THAT THE CASE WITH THE PRO PROPOSED ZONING VARIANCE AT NORWOOD? HOW DOES THE TOWN BENEFIT, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC USE OF BATTERY STORAGE, OR IS IT JUST THE CLUB? UM, AND, AND I'LL LEAVE THAT WITH THAT. GAR, DUANE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THAT? YEAH, SURE. I'M SORRY, MY VIDEO'S NOT WORKING, SO, BUT I TURNED IT ON. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG. I'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT, UH, THANKS FOR THE QUESTIONS. GAR, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, TASHA, HAVE YOU FINISHED ALL YOUR COMMENTS? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. IF, UM, SINCE I DIDN'T USE MY THREE MINUTES, IF, DO I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO MR. DUANE OR SURE. WE, THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. WELL, OKAY. WE GENERALLY WOULD LIKE YOU TO GET ALL YOUR QUESTIONS OUT INITIALLY, BECAUSE THEN WE'LL GET INTO LIKE A BACK AND FORTH. UM, I, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANNA HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT YOU MIGHT JUST WANT TO MENTION NOW? NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY, THANKS. OKAY. SO THANKS FOR THE QUESTIONS. AS PART OF THE DUE DILIGENCE IN PREPARING THE LOCAL LAW, WE DID AN INTERVIEW WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CON EDISON, AND, UH, WE DID POSE THAT QUESTION REGARDING, UM, POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS. AND, UM, WE, WE DID HEAR THAT, WHILE I THINK IT WAS, I, I WOULD BEST DESCRIBE THE SAVINGS AS INDIRECT. UM, THE RESILIENCY THAT BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE WILL PROVIDE TO THE SYSTEM, UM, IN GENERAL WILL CAUSE CON EDISON TO HAVE TO MAKE LESS, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, SUBSTATION UPGRADES, UH, SUPPLEMENTS TO THEIR SYSTEM IN THAT REGARD. UM, SO THEY, THEY DID DESCRIBE IT TO US AS, AS SORT OF AN INDIRECT COST SAVINGS, UH, AS FAR AS, UM, FISCAL ASPECTS TO THE TOWN, UH, WHEN THERE ARE PROPOSALS, UH, AS WITH ANYTHING THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE BUILDING PERMIT, THERE ARE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. UM, AS FAR AS TAX IMPLICATIONS FOR THE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK I WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR ABOUT THAT. UM, SO THOSE, THOSE WOULD BE MY RESPONSES. AND, AND, AND I, I, IF, IF I MISSED, UH, ANY OF YOUR QUESTION, I, I WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. DUANE. I THINK, I THINK, UM, I'M PERFECTLY SATISFIED. I I DO HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I COULD SAVE THEM FOR ANOTHER VENUE. THANK YOU AT WAYNES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, YOU KNOW, PAUL, YOU NEED TO RECONSIDER HAVING, UH, GROUPS COME IN, UH, FOR PRESENTATIONS AND TRY TO SCHEDULE PRESENTATIONS ON ONE SPECIFIC NIGHT. THIS IS A PRECURSOR TO MY THREE MINUTES BECAUSE IT DOES GET OUT OUT OF HAND AND WE START THE MEETING AT LIKE 10 O'CLOCK, AND THEN YOU DISCUSS FOR FIVE MINUTES THINGS LIKE, UM, WE ARE GONNA COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS. WELL, I KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE, UH, YOU TOOK MY NAME OFF THE ROAD FOR A WORK SESSION IN 2018, TOOK IT OFF AGAIN IN 2019, I BELIEVE, AND, UH, IS NOW 2021. AND I HAVE NOT HAD A REPEAT DATE FOR MY TIME IN A WORK SESSION. AND WHEN I WAS COMING, THEN IT WAS TO DISCUSS REASSESSMENT. I HADN'T PLANNED TO DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT, BUT I SAW EDIE MCCARTNEY'S, UM, NAME HERE. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT SHE'S STILL HERE. HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE, UH, [02:40:01] REASSESSMENT? UM, SINCE WE WERE REASSESSED AND THE CORRIDOR FOR ONE 19, ALL OF THE BUSINESSES ARE STILL UNDER URBAN RENEWAL. HOW CAN YOU REMOVE MY, MY, MY, MY, UH, CIVIC ASSOCIATION AREA, JUNIPER HILL, THAT WHOLE AREA OFF OF URBAN RENEWAL BECAUSE IT'S BLIGHTED. UM, UM, FRANCIS CIAN USED THE WORD BLIGHTED. BLIGHTED NEVER BOTHERED ME BECAUSE I WANTED EVERYBODY TO REALIZE THAT IT IS JUST BASICALLY A DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES. IT'S IMPLICIT INSTITUTIONALIZED BIAS. WE ARE STILL USING IT. AND THE PART THAT AMAZES ME, IT'S NOT JUST RACIAL, IT'S JUST ACROSS THE LINE. IT'S THE SAME THING THAT FRANCIS WAS SAY SAYING, AND FRANCIS, AND I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT I AGREE WITH HIM ON THIS. YOU CAN'T DO THE TOWN ONE WAY AND EVERYBODY ELSE ANOTHER WAY. THAT'S WHAT YOU MANAGE TO DO GENERALLY, AND YOU NEED TO STOP. AND WE NEED TO, UM, ACTUALLY CHANGE IT AROUND. AND BACK TO MY MAIN TOPIC, WHICH IS REASSESSMENT. WHEN YOU HAVE REASSESSMENT, I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY LIKE TYLER SENDING ME A NOTE TELLING ME I CAN SPEAK TO THEM AND THEY'RE IN MASSACHUSETTS AND I DON'T GET AN ANSWER. I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE ONLY HAVE THREE DAYS, AND THAT'S SET UP BY THE ASSESSMENT OFFICE. YOU'RE GONNA SET THAT UP AND CHANGE IT TO WHERE EVERYBODY CAN COME IN. I'M NOT COMING IN OR SPEAK AND GIVE EVERYBODY AN APPOINTMENT. NOW THAT MEANS, UH, THE ASSESSOR NEEDS TO BE THERE. NOW WE NEED TO GO BACK AND SAY, TELL ME WHY MY TAXES ARE BEING INCREASED AGAIN. I KNOW WHAT I PAID FOR MY HOUSE AND I KNOW IT WAS PAID WHEN I BOUGHT IT OR WHEN IT WAS BUILT. SO WHY AM I HAVING MY TAXES GO UP AND DON'T TELL ME ABOUT FAIR MARKET. IT'S NOT A FAIR MARKET IS DISCRIMINATORY. NOW I'LL SETTLE WITH THAT ONE AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE ANSWERS AS TO WHY THE CORRIDOR ON ONE 19, UH, JAGUAR, ARE THEY IN A BLIGHTED AREA, B M W, ARE THEY IN A BLIGHTED AREA? AND FURTHERMORE, THEY KEEP SAYING WHITE PLAINS, IT'S NOT WHITE PLAINS, IT'S THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, AND I DON'T WANNA HEAR ABOUT POSTAL OFFICES AND WHATEVER. IF IT'S GOING TO BE A, IF, IF IT IS GREENBERG, IT'S GREENBURG. NOW COULD SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY I STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH, UH, ALL THE BUSINESSES ON ONE 19 ALL THE WAY THROUGH GREENBURG BEING UNDER URBAN RENEWAL, AND THEY HAVE FIVE TIMES, NO, 50 TIMES MORE MONEY THAN I HAVE. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. THE TOWN BOARD WOULD LIKE. I'D BE HAPPY TO JUST GIVE A QUICK, UH, SYNOPSIS OF, OF THE URBAN RENEWAL ZONING DISTRICT AND THE INTERPLAY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. MA'AM, I'M LISTENING. OKAY, PLEASE. YES. THANK YOU MS. WEEMS FOR THE COMMENT. UH, I SHARED AN EMAIL WITH YOU, UH, RECENTLY AND, AND I, UM, PLACED AN EXCERPT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE LAND USE CHAPTER WITH RESPECT TO URBAN RENEWAL, UH, THE URBAN RENEWAL ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. UM, THERE ARE SOME URBAN RENEWAL LANDS, AS YOU CORRECTLY NOTE, THAT STILL REMAIN. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, HAS POLICIES FOR THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS TO BE REMOVED. AND THERE THERE ARE TWO, UH, PORTIONS OF THE FORMER, OR I'M SORRY, THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT. THEY ARE INDEED ON ROUTE ONE 19 AND THEY'RE, UH, MIXED USE COMMERCIAL, UH, ZONING LIKE DISTRICTS. AND THEN THERE ARE, THERE IS ANOTHER CONTIGUOUS PORTION OF THE URBAN RENEWAL ON MANHATTAN AVENUE, UH, THAT ENCOMPASSES THE, UH, HIGH-RISE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. UM, WE HAVE, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY BLIGHTED, RIGHT? KEEP, KEEP GOING. OKAY. SO, UM, I, I'VE MENTIONED, AND, AND, AND IF I HAD MORE TIME, I THINK WE'D BE FURTHER ALONG HERE, JUST GOT A LOT GOING ON. BUT WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, ONE 19 ASPECT, WE ARE LOOKING TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE REZONING OF ALL THE, THE, THE COMMERCIAL FRONTING PROPERTIES ON ONE 19. AND THAT WOULD, UH, SPAN FROM THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS TO THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD, AND IT WOULD ENCOMPASS ZONING CHANGES THAT GO BEYOND THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT. SO WHAT WE'RE, WE SEEK TO DO IS TO HAVE A, UH, CA LIKE MIXED USE DISTRICT, WHEN I SAY CA, CENTRAL AVENUE, UH, SO ONE UNIFORM MIXED USE DISTRICT THAT WOULD APPLY TO ALL OF THE ROUTE ONE 19 PARCELS. UM, WITH REGARD TO THE, UM, MANHATTAN AVENUE ZONING, WE WOULD CONSIDER A ONE, ONE OF THE M DISTRICTS, UM, FOR, FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, ALLOW, UH, MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS, WHICH IS WHAT EXISTS ON THOSE PARCELS. UM, INDEED, UH, THERE WAS A GOOD PORTION OF THE URBAN RENEWAL, UM, I BELIEVE MIGHT'VE BEEN 2018, [02:45:01] WHERE THOSE, UH, PROPERTIES WERE, WERE REZONED. AND THE REZONING KEPT TO BE A LOT OF THE TRAITS OF THE UNDERLYING ZONING. BUT WHAT IT DID WAS, UH, REMOVE THE PROSPECT FOR ADDITIONAL ONE FAMILY TO TWO FAMILY CONVERSION. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF VIABLE AND, AND, AND, AND NICE TWO FAMILY HOMES IN THE, UH, FAIRVIEW PORTION OF THE TOWN. BUT THERE WAS INDEED A CONCERN THAT, UM, THERE WAS A CONSTANT EVOLUTION TO MORE TWO FAMILY HOMES THAT SOME OF THE OFF STREET PARKING CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD OF WOULD BE EXACERBATED. SO, UH, WHAT WAS CREATED, THERE WAS A ONE FAMILY DISTRICT THAT LEGALIZED THE EXISTING TWO-FAMILY, UH, DISTRICTS. AS FAR AS TAX IMPLICATIONS, UH, THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT DISTRICT IS REALLY, IT'S, IT'S AN ARCHAIC TERM, HAS NO IMPLICATIONS ON THE TAX, UM, STRUCTURE FOR ANY OF THE, THE, THE PROPERTIES, UH, IN THE EXISTING OR FORMER URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE TOWARDS THE, THE OVERALL REZONING ACTIONS THAT I DESCRIBED. AND THAT LAND USAGE, UM, UH, THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING, IS THAT STILL AN ALL WHITE, UM, BOARD? BECAUSE I TRIED TO GET ON WAY BACK WHEN AND I COULDN'T GET ON THEN. AND WHEN IT WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH, WE HAD A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS FOR COMMUNITY THAT HAS BLACK PEOPLE. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE NOW ON THE LAND USAGE COMMITTEE AND ARE THEY ANY OF COLOR DIVERSITY? AND THAT'S NO. IS THAT IT? YOU, YOU DIDN'T ANSWER? NO, I WAS ABOUT TO ANSWER THE, UM, WHEN I SAY LAND USE COMMITTEE, I, I, I, I THINK I MENTIONED THAT THE LAND USE, UH, POLICIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO ESTABLISH. BUT GOING BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE, UH, STEERING COMMITTEE WAS KNOWN AS THE COMPREHENSIVE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THAT THAT WAS A COMMITTEE THAT WORKED, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF, UH, PERHAPS EIGHT YEARS. AND, UM, I I, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT COMMITTEE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT ALL WHITE. UM, THERE WAS, UM, GOOD DIVERSITY ON THE COMMITTEE. NO, IT WASN'T. AND, UM, AND IT WAS MORE THAN THAN EIGHT YEARS. SO PLEASE GET YOUR NUMBERS CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA DISAGREE AND I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP THE EXTRA TIME BECAUSE EVERYBODY , UH, 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT INTERRUPT HIM WHILE HE'S TALKING, TRYING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. I'M ALL RIGHT. WHO'S NEXT? JUDY, OR YES, NO, UM, I, I'M, I'M HERE. I WAS JUST LISTENING TO THE, UH, EXCHANGE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND WONDERING, UM, WHEN WE WOULD, UH, UM, CALL ON THE NEXT PERSON. SO THE NEXT PERSON IS MARY, MARY BODEN. SOMEBODY'S GOT A MIC OPEN BASEBALL, BASEBALL SEASON IS HERE IN THE NEWSPAPER. JUST THIS WEEK THE ATLANTIC LEAGUE MINOR LEAGUE IS MOVING THE PITCHERS MOUND BACK ONE FOOT WIDE. BASEBALL'S BORING. THEY PUT A MAN ON SECOND BASE IF IT'S TIED AT THE END OF NINTH THINNING. AND NOW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A DESIGNATED HEATER AFTER IN BOTH LEAGUES, AFTER THE FIRST PITCHERS OUT. NOBODY'S REALLY INTERESTED IN BASEBALL ANYMORE. GOLF COURSES ARE CLOSING ALL OVER THE PLACE. I CAN ACTUALLY GO AND PLAY IN WEST POINT GOLF COURSE. UNHEARD OF. THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT KEEPING IT CLEAN FOR PEOPLE WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BLOWER LAW. LARCHMONT HAS ONE, SCARSDALE HAS ONE, DOES YONKERS HAVE ONE? DOES MOUNT VERNON HAVE ONE? THERE'S A MESSAGE IN THERE. YOU FREAK, FIGURE IT OUT. WIND FARM, OFF LONG ISLAND SOUND AND HAD TO BRING THE PIPE, THE ELECTRIC IN THROUGH WSET, I THINK IT IS. AND THE LOCAL PEOPLE SAID, YOU CAN'T CUT UP OUR BEACH WHERE IT'S GONNA DESTROY OUR BEACH, BUT IT'S ONLY FOUR MONTHS. ALL YOU'RE GONNA DO IN THE SPRINGTIME, NOT WHEN YOU ARE USING THE BEACH. WE SPENT SO MUCH MONEY FOR THESE HOUSES. AND HAVE YOU NOTICED A DISPARITY IN THE WAY RESOURCES ARE USED? HAVE YOU NOTICED A DISPARITY IN TAXES? THERE'LL BE A SECOND ROUND. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. MICHELLE BROWN. HI, GOOD EVENING. IT'S MICHELLE. HOW ARE YOU? UM, I JUST HAD TWO QUESTIONS. [02:50:01] WELL, ONE, I DIDN'T HEAR THE ANSWER FOR MRS. WEEK'S. UM, QUESTION REGARDING HER TAX INCREASE. MAYBE I MISSED IT. AND TWO, I WANTED TO KNOW, WE, I WE WERE IN A WORK SESSION LAST NIGHT AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING. I WANTED TO KNOW IF IT MAY BE, KEN, YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS SINCE YOU'RE THE LIAISON, IF I'M NOT, UM, MISTAKEN FOR PEOPLE THAT WANNA COME BACK TO HOUSING, WHETHER IT'S SCATTER SITES OR UM, SENIOR HOUSING THAT ARE BEING DISPLACED, ARE YOU GIVING THEM, OR IS THERE A WRITTEN GUARANTEE GIVEN TO THEM THAT THEY CAN COME BACK AT THE SAME AMOUNT THAT THEY PAY AND THAT, UM, I, I HEARD, I MEAN, I HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT NO REASSESSMENT AND YOU KNOW, ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, BUT IS THERE A DOCUMENT BEING GIVEN TO ANYONE LEGALLY THAT SAYS THEY'RE GUARANTEED TO COME BACK IF THEY CHOOSE TO NOTARIZED, YOU KNOW, PROMISED IN WRITING? YES. OH, THERE IS ONE. CORRECT. AND WHEN, WHEN ARE THOSE HANDED OUT? THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN HANDED OUT. THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN TOLD, UH, AT NUMEROUS MEETINGS AND THE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN PRODUCED. THE MOST RECENT LETTER WENT OUT, I BELIEVE IT WAS THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK, TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH PARTI AS, AS FAR AS THE SCATTER SITES IS CONCERNED. OH, OKAY. HOW LONG IS THE SCATTER SITES ON RENOVATION GONNA TAKE DO YOU THINK? UH, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. UM, WHEN I SPOKE TO, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, THEY SAID THAT MOST OF THEM ARE GONNA BE THREE OR FOUR, YOU KNOW, AROUND FOUR MONTHS. OH. SO LESS THAN SIX MONTHS. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING, BUT THAT'S AN ESTIMATE. SO THAT'S AN ESTIMATE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION ALWAYS TAKES LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED THAT THAT'S TRUE. THAT IS TRUE. AND MY NEXT QUESTION WAS, UM, AND I DON'T THINK I EVER GOT AN ANSWER. UM, THERE IS A ASTERISK IN THE PRESENTATION FOR THE SCATTER SITES ON THE WEBSITE THAT SAYS THAT, AND I'M CONFUSED BY THIS, SO MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME. UM, IF YOU FIND A PLACE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO PAY 30% ON WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE LIVING, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE QUESTIONS FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE TOWN BOARD. YES. THIS, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS AN INDEPENDENT ENTITY THAT IS, IS NOT UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE TOWN BOARD. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS IN CONTROL OF THAT PROCESS. YOU'RE ASKING US ABOUT INTER INTER ABOUT HOUSING AUTHORITY DOCUMENTS THAT ARE GENERATED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. I SUGGEST THAT YOU ASK THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS THAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER ANYONE ELSE ON THE TOWN BOARD KNOWS THAT ANSWER EITHER. OKAY. CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE I'M THERE? SURE, OF COURSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO AS A LIAISON, THIS IS WHERE I'M CONFUSED. MM-HMM. , YOU'RE ON THE TOWN BOARD, AM I CORRECT? YES. AND YOU'RE ALSO A LATE LIAISON FOR THE TOWN BOARD AND GREENBURG HOUSING AUTHORITY, IS THAT CORRECT? I AM, I AM. I AM A TOWN BOARD MEMBER WHO IS A, SO HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR THE TOWN AND LIA AND A LIAISON IS SOMEONE WHO BRINGS BACK INFORMATION TO THE TOWN BOARD? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. WHAT IS NEXT? OKAY, SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, UH, MORE REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. FINE. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WONDERING IF, UH, UH, EDIE MCCARTHY, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US JUST LIKE A LITTLE UPDATE? UH, WE WERE GONNA DO IT YESTERDAY ON JUST THE WHOLE REASSESSMENT, YOU KNOW, PROCESS. I DON'T SEE EITHER. OKAY. THEN WE CAN DO IT AT THE WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK. YEAH. OKAY. SO NOW SHOULD WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE AGENDA? OKAY. OR DO WE WANT HER, UH, LET PEOPLE SPEAK A SECOND TIME? AND THEN STEPHANIE SWAN HAD HER HAND UP. SHOULD WE BE, WE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE HER. SHE HAD HER HAND UP. YEAH. WHY DON'T WE JUST DO ONE, ONE. UH OH, SHE DIDN'T SPEAK YET. SHE DIDN'T SPEAK YET. SHE HAD HER HAND UP. RIGHT. SO LET'S LET ANYONE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN YET, LET'S LET HIM [02:55:01] SPEAK. MS. SWANG, MAYBE SHE'S NOT THERE ANYMORE. OKAY. SO I ALSO SEE, YES, I'M HERE. HERE. SHE'S HERE. SHE'S, I SEE STEPHANIE THERE. AND YOU ALSO HAVE, SO JUST AS I SEE STEPHANIE, HOLD ON. STEPHANIE, I SEE STEPHANIE SWAN AND I ALSO SEE CLIFTON ABRAMS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? TASHA HAS HER HAND UP AGAIN. OKAY. SO TASHA HAS ALREADY SPOKEN. AND IF THE BOARD IS GOING TO, UM, UH, AUTHORIZE A SECOND ROUND, THEN WE'LL CALL ON TASHA AGAIN. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO CALL ON STEPHANIE SWAN AND THEN CLIFF ABRAMS. HELLO, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE SWAN. I RESIDE AT 3 7 6 SAW MILL RIVER ROAD, UNIT 62 DASH ONE, ELMSFORD, NEW YORK, GOOD EVENING TOWN SUPERVISOR PAUL FINER AND THE TOWN BOARD, COUNCILWOMEN AND MEN TOWN CLERK JUDITH BEVILLE. AND COUNCILOR TIM LEWIS. AS YOU KNOW, I AM HERE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT THE CERTIFIED APRIL 5TH, 2021 CONVERSION LETTER OF FOR THE CONVERSION OF PUBLIC HOUSING. HOW HAS THIS, HOW HAS THIS AFFECTED MY MENTAL STABILITY TREMENDOUSLY AND OTHER RESIDENTS WHO ARE FEARFUL DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE CO, OF THE CONTAGIOUS C OVID 19 EPIDEMIC BY BEING FORCED TO MOVE OUT WITH AN UNCERTAIN FUTURE RETURN OR WEAR? BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THAT, I WANT TO TELL YOU WHY THIS MATTERS TO ME. MY APARTMENT AND THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY IS MY HOME. IT HAS A FRONT PORCH THAT IS PARTIALLY ENCLOSED AND I LOVE SITTING THERE ON MY ROCKING CHAIR, READING MY BIBLE STUDY LESSONS AND WATCHING THE CHILDREN GET ON THEIR SCHOOL BUSES IN THE MORNING AND EVENING. IN FACT, I HAVE TWO ROCKING CHAIRS AND SOMETIMES I SIT THERE WITH A FRIEND. THAT FRIEND USED TO BE THE LATE DONALD SLEDGE. WE WOULD LAUGH ABOUT THINGS TOGETHER. I WOULD PUT, I ABSOLUTELY PUT ARTIFICIAL FLOWERS SO I CAN FEEL THE ENERGY OF THE SPRING LIFE AT ANY TIME OF THE YEAR. THE CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY HELPED ME ARRANGING THE GARDEN. IT WAS CALLED THE CHILDREN'S GARDEN. BUT SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2018, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE GREENBERG HOUSING AND THE DIRECTOR OF MAINTENANCE TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO SHOW UP ON MY FRONT DOORSTEP UNANNOUNCED. WHEN I WENT OUTSIDE AND I SAW THEM, THEY TOLD ME I HAD NO RIGHT TO DO THAT BECAUSE HE, THEY WANTED MONEY FOR RAD TO COME IN AND FIX UP THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT MY PLACE COULDN'T LOOK THE WAY THAT IT DID. THEY TORE UP MY GARDEN AND THEY TOLD ME NO ONE WOULD HELP ME. I COULD ALMOST SMELL HIS BREATH. THAT'S HOW CLOSE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WAS ON ME. IT WAS DEMORALIZING, DEHUMANIZING. I FELT LIKE A CORNERED ANIMAL. WHEN YOU WALK INSIDE, YOU SEE THAT I HAVE DESIGNED MY HOME, LIKE THE COUNTRY PLACE. MY KITCHEN REFLECTS THE TIME I SPENT MAKING IT HOW I WANT IT TO BE. WHEN I'M COOKING, I THINK OF MY NANI AND I LOOK OUT TO MY LIVING ROOM, WHICH REFLECTS A LADY'S PARLOR, WHICH MY NANNY'S FURNITURE AND PORCH. I FEEL LIKE I'M IN THE COUNTRY LIKE MARTHA'S VINEYARD. THIS IS MY HOME. THIS IS MY, THIS IS MY IDENTITY. WE WERE INITIALLY TOLD OUR APARTMENTS WOULD BE RE RE RENOVATED REFURBISHED, MUCH OF WHICH ONLY BECAME NEEDED BECAUSE OF MAINTENANCE NEGLECT OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS. BUT NOW I CAN SEE THAT IT IS MORE LIKE MOVE OUT AND WE MAY TEAR IT DOWN OR GUT IT OUT TO THE RAFTERS. AND YOU MAY GET TO LIVE IN THE GREENBURG HOUSING AUTHORITY COMPLEXES AGAIN IN HIGH RISES. BUT WE'RE NOT SURE. BUT IT WILL COST OR WHAT IT WILL COST OR WHEN IT WILL BE, I CAN SAY LOUDLY ENOUGH, I AM ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED OF BEING THE NEXT RESIDENT TO RECEIVE THE NOTICE TO LEAVE FOR RENOVATIONS BECAUSE I FEAR I'M GOING TO LOSE MY FRONT PORCH, MY ROCKING CHAIRS, MY KITCHEN, MY HOME, AND MY IDENTITY. YOU, THE TOWN BOARD SUPERVISOR, PAUL FINER AND GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY CAN'T TAKE OUR HOMES AWAY FROM PEOPLE [03:00:01] OF YEARS OF DECADES OF LIFE AND CREATING HOMES AND FAMILIES HERE. WE NEED MAINTENANCE, NOT DESTRUCTION, NO CLEAR, REASONABLE TIME TIMELINE TO BRING US BACK. SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU ARE LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS, YOU ARE NOT BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU THAT I'M TERRIFIED. WHAT DO I NEED TO FILL LESS FEAR. I NEED THE MOVING OUT OF RESIDENTS TO PAUSE TO, AND I NEEDED INVESTIGATION SO THAT I CAN TRUST THIS PROCESS TO KEEP MY HOME AND MY IDENTITIES SAFE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK, UM, GOOD EVENING. UM, I DON'T KNOW, ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO I WAS SHARING, UM, JARED WAS TELLING ME THAT THEY CAN RESTART, HAVING SIDEWALKS DONE. AND, AND WHEN ALL THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT CAME ON ONE 19, ALL THE HIGH-END CAR DEALERSHIP, AND I WAS ASKING THE TOWN BOARD SAYING, OKAY, YOU'RE BUILDING ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS, NEW CAR DEALERSHIP, THESE SIDEWALKS WHO IS ADVOCATING FOR FAIRVIEW ALL THIS MONEY THAT'S COMING IN. I WANT TO KNOW WHY IS NOBODY FROM FAIRVIEW IS GETTING ANY JOBS. AND I'VE BEEN ASKED IN THIS AND I HAVEN'T YET NO ANSWER YET. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MINORITIES, UM, CONTRACTORS. AND AS I WALK AROUND MY COMMUNITY AND I'M SEEING ALL THESE SIDEWALKS BEING BUILT, I SEE NOBODY LOOKING LIKE ME. I SEE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN TALK ENGLISH, GETTING THIS MONEY THAT'S COMING OUT OF FAIRVIEW. I SEE HIGH-END CAR DEALERSHIP, TESLA, JAGUAR, B M W, AND I'M LIKE SAYING, OKAY, THEY NEED CAR WASHED, THEY NEED CARS TRANSFERRED. ONE OF THESE THINGS IS BEING BUILT. I AIN'T SEEN NOBODY GET NO APPRENTICESHIP. I'M SEEING NOBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY GETTING ANY LABOR JOBS. BUT YOU GO THROUGH TRACTORS, IT'S GOTTA BE ABOUT 18 MONTHS AND BEFORE THESE THINGS GOING TO BE BUILT. AND PEOPLE FOR THE COMMUNITY CAN USE DECENT LABOR JOBS FOR AT LEAST 18 MONTHS TO HELP SUPPORT THEIR FAMILY. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO ON THAT TOWN BOARD, IT'S FIGHTING FOR FAIRVIEW GREENBURG, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT'S BEING PUT INTO THESE PROJECTS. AND NOBODY FROM FAIRVIEW IS GETTING ANY WORK. HOW DO I KNOW? I'M FROM THERAPY. I'M A DISTRICT LEADER. I'M A ADVOCATE. I TALK TO PEOPLE WHO NEED WORK, YOUNG ADULTS, YOUTH, APPRENTICESHIPS, THEY'RE BUILDING ALL THESE THINGS UP. AND NOBODY STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED ME. AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TO GARRETT AND GARRETT. NO, I'VE BEEN SAYING, HEY, HOW'S ANYBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY IS GETTING ANY OF THIS MONEY? IT'S A LOT OF MONEY COMING IN AND NOBODY FROM FAIRVIEW IS GETTING IT. AND SO MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME OUT. LET ME KNOW WHO REPRESENTS FAIRVIEW AND HOW DO WE GO ABOUT SOME OF THESE CONTRACTORS AND Y'ALL SAY MINORITIES. AND I'M LOOKING, YOU KNOW, UM, WHEN YOU SAY MINORITIES IS BLACK INCLUDED WHEN IT COMES TO MINORITIES, BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T SEE NO BLACK CONTRACTORS GETTING ANY OF THIS MONEY THAT'S BEING GIVEN OUT. MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME AND HOW CAN IT WORK SOMETHING OUT THAT WE COULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF PERSON WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE FROM FAIRVIEW AND PEOPLE ARE BLACK, NOT NOT IN THAT MINORITY BLACK, IT'S SOME OF THIS MONEY. OR FAIRVIEW GOT ABOUT 67% OR 76% AFRICAN AMERICANS. AND IT JUST AMAZED ME THAT, UM, THERE'S NOBODY TALKING OR NOBODY TAKING A LEADERSHIP ROLE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE GET SOME JOBS OR APPRENTICESHIPS. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO IT SEEMS AS THOUGH EVERYONE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK, JUDY, BEFORE YOU FINISH [03:05:01] FIRST MM-HMM. , BEFORE YOU GO, I WAS ASKING LIKE A QUESTIONS LIKE, DO OKAY, HOW DID, YEAH, I WAS ASKING A QUESTION LIKE HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? I, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I'M SEEING A LOT OF CONTRACTORS, BUT I'M NOT SEEING MAYBE SOMEBODY, JERRY, CAN YOU HELP ME? OR MAYBE SOMEBODY THERE CAN HELP ME. HOW DO WE GO ABOUT THIS? SO O ONE COMMENT I WOULD HAVE IS, I THINK, UM, WE BUILT A NICE TEMPLATE AS PART OF THE BRIGHTVIEW CONTINUUM OF CARE FACILITY PROCESS THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD, WHICH INCLUDES PROVISIONS FOR BOTH CONSTRUCTION EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS OPERATIONAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, ONCE THAT FACILITY'S OPEN AND THE APPROVAL CONDITION THAT I'M REFERRING TO SPECIFICALLY REFERENCED THE, UH, FAIRVIEW CENSUS DISTRICT. SO I THINK WHEN I SAY THAT THAT'S A A, A VIABLE TEMPLATE, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT CAN BE EXTRAPOLATED TO OTHER APPROVALS AND I WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, THAT THE TOWN BOARD, UH, CONSIDER THAT TEMPLATE IN OTHER APPROVALS. AND, UM, WE CAN WORK WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, FOR PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION FOR A SIMILAR CONDITION. AND, UM, AND, AND IF IT'S A VIABLE TEMPLATE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT WE CAN USE FOR YEARS TO COME. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY THAT, UM, YEAH, BRIGHTVIEW AND I WAS ON THAT CONFERENCE CALL AND I THINK I'M EVEN THE ONE WHO BRUNG UP ABOUT THE APPRENTICESHIP BEFORE YOU WROTE. SO YOU STILL DIDN'T TELL ME HOW PEOPLE FROM FAIRVIEW AND I, AND I'M OPEN THAT BRIGHTVIEW IS WILLING TO, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE, THEY GOT THE, UM, HOUSING AUTHORITY GETTING MADE TO BUILD A FOUR STORY, UM, BUILDING ON MANHATTAN AVENUE. YOU KNOW, SO I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, HOW DO PEOPLE, I AIN'T TALKING ABOUT AFTER IT'S BEING BUILT, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHY IT'S BEING BUILT. YEAH. I MEAN, JUST LIKE THE SIDEWALK, I'M GONNA SHUT UP AFTER THIS. JIM, I'M GONNA BE QUIET. NO, I JUST RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION, WHICH IS, UM, ONE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS DIFFERENT THAN THE TOWN, RIGHT? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO CON STILL YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONTRACTORS COME IN, RIGHT? JUST TO MOVE THAT HOUSING, RIGHT? THE PROCESS WITH THE TOWN IS, THERE'S A BID PROCESS, RIGHT? AND THE TOWN USES CONTRACTOR WHO SUBMIT THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BID, RIGHT? WHICH COULD BE ANYBODY, RIGHT? AND, AND IF YOU COME INTO THE LOBBY OF TOWN HALL KNOW, YOU SOMETIMES SEE PEOPLE THERE RESPONDING TO A BID. SO WE DON'T CONTROL WHETHER THAT PERSON, YOU KNOW, IS OF A PARTICULAR NATIONALITY. IT'S WHOEVER HAS THE MOST RESPONSIBLE BID. AND IF THEY GET THAT BID, THEY CAN HIRE WHOEVER THEY WANNA HIRE. NOW, A DIFFERENT QUESTION MAY BE, WHY AREN'T THERE MORE MINORITY BUSINESSES WHO ARE BIDDING FOR THESE JOBS AND CONTRACTS AND COULD HIRE WHOEVER THEY WANT? AND HOW DO PEOPLE GO ABOUT THAT? TIM, HOW, HOW, HOW DO YOU PUBLICIZE THAT THIS HAPPENED FOR THE BID? IT, IT'S, IT'S PUBLISHED IN, IN THE, IN THE PAPER WE HAVE NOTICES AND IF YOU COME TO TOWN HALL ON THE BULLETIN BOARD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ADVERTISING THESE, THESE CONTRACTS, WHETHER THEY BE PAVING CONTRACTS OR SIDE MORE CONTRACTS. AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SOME CONTRACTORS ARE LOOKING AT THOSE AND AND BIDDING ON THEM AND SOME OTHERS AREN'T. SO THAT'S, JUST TO ANSWER THE GENERAL QUESTION, I THINK GARRETT'S RESPONSE IS WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVE CONTRACTORS, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM. BUT YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE BIDS AND THEY ARE THE MOST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, THEY'RE GONNA GET THE CONTRACT. AND, AND I'M CRYSTAL CLEAR ON THAT. AND WHEN I WAS TALKING, BECAUSE MY QUESTION WAS REALLY TO JARED WHEN I WAS TALKING TO HIM, BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS, WE WERE BRINGING UP PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY GET WORK. RIGHT. OKAY. SO MAYBE THERE'LL BE A SECOND ROUND, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I GUESS WE GOTTA MOVE THE AGENDA. NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S ALREADY ALMOST 11, SO, OKAY. WELL I DO SEE A HAND THAT WE HAVE NOT CALLED ON, UM, PRIOR. PETER, PETER, UH, UH, LUCCI, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK AS PART OF THE FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC COMMENT? YEAH, IF I COULD BRIEFLY, I'LL TRY AND MAKE IT VERY BRIEF. IF, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YEAH. YEAH. SO I, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. UM, ARE WE IN A LONG-TERM CONTRACT WITH THEM? 'CAUSE THEY DID THE, THIS REASSESSMENT IN 2016 AND UM, NOW THEY'RE DOING ANOTHER REASSESSMENT AND I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT WE'RE SEEING THE [03:10:01] SAME COMPANY AGAIN, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, I, I THOUGHT THEY WERE AWFUL. UH, AND I'M WONDERING WHETHER IT'S THE CASE THAT WE REHIRED THEM AND IF WE DID REHIRE THEM, WAS THERE, UH, SOLICITATION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON REHIRING THEM? 'CAUSE I CERTAINLY WOULD'VE, UH, BROUGHT UP THE ISSUES I HAD WITH THEM. UM, THAT'S ONE QUESTION. UH, NOW I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU MY, YOU KNOW, MY HISTORY AND MY STORY OF TODAY, WHICH I THINK ILLUSTRATES MY FRUSTRATION WITH THE COMPANY. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE FOR JUST COMING HERE TO, TO WHINE TO YOU, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU HEAR FROM US BECAUSE AS I SAID TO MY WIFE, YOU KNOW, TYLER TECHNOLOGY SPITS OUT WHAT THEY SPIT OUT AND THEY SEND IT TO YOU, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE MESS. AND IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF EFFORT, AND IT HAS SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES. MY, MY REASSESSMENT WENT UP 43%. LET ME REPEAT, MY REASSESSMENT WENT UP 43% AND NOW I HAVE TO FIX THE MESS. NOW, I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. I CONTACTED TYLER TECHNOLOGIES AS I DID THE LAST TIME IN 2016. AND, YOU KNOW, AND I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, WHICH IS NOTHING. BUT I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. I SCHEDULED OUR MEETING WITH THEM. THEY EVEN PROVIDED AN EMAIL ADDRESS FOR YOU TO SEND DOCUMENTATION TO THEM SO THAT THEY COULD REVIEW IT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU HAD THIS CONFERENCE CALL WITH THEM. SO I DID THAT AND I SENT THEM A PRESENTATION THAT MY WIFE AND I SPENT HOURS PUTTING TOGETHER IN 2016 TO JUSTIFY WHY THEIR ASSESSMENT IN 2016 WAS CRAZY. AND I TOOK THAT EXACT SAME PRESENTATION BECAUSE THE EXACT SAME CONDITIONS ARE PRESENT NOW. AND I SENT IT TO THEM. WE GET ON THE CONFERENCE CALL, I EVEN GOT AN EMAIL BACK FROM TYLER SAYING, THANK YOU. WE RECEIVED YOUR PRESENTATION. WE GET ON THE CONFERENCE CALL WITH THE PERSON, YOU KNOW, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM TYLER. AND HE STARTED TO SPEAK. AND I SAID, UM, WELL BEFORE WE START, 'CAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY CUT THIS CONVERSATION VERY SHORT. UH, HAVE YOU SEEN THE PRESENTATION THAT I PROVIDED? AND HE SAID, NO, I, I, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PRESENTATION. AND THEN HE STARTED FIDDLING, YOU KNOW, FUMBLING AROUND. AND THEN SURE ENOUGH, HE DID HAVE THE PRESENTATION, BUT HE HADN'T EVEN LOOKED AT IT, AND YET HE CONTACTED US. UM, THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT IT'S A WASTE OF TIME EVEN SPEAKING TO TYLER. AND ULTIMATELY YOU END UP WITH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE. AND THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE WAS GREAT LAST TIME AND IT WORKED OUT, YOU KNOW, PROPERLY AND EQUITABLY. UM, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE TYLER TECHNOLOGIES DOES NOT ADD ANY VALUE. UM, THE LAST TIME WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE HOUSE VISITS, WE HAD, I BELIEVE FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE COME OUT TO THE HOUSE. WE, YOU KNOW, I MADE SURE TO POINT OUT THE SPECIFIC THINGS. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A, I HAVE A BACKYARD THAT IS COMPLETELY CRUMBLING. IT'S A DISASTER AREA. IT NEEDS $200,000 A WORK, UH, RETAINING WALL. I'VE BEEN BATTLING THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN FOR NINE YEARS, TRYING TO GET IT DONE. UH, I POINTED THIS OUT TO THEM. I SAID, THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD SELL THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW. WE COULDN'T EVEN SELL THE HOUSE. WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT EVEN, YOU KNOW, NOT CERTAINLY WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO SELL IT FOR WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROPOSING. AND NOTHING HAPPENED. THEY DID NOTHING. SO ANYWAY, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG MEETING AND I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING TONIGHT, AND I DON'T MEAN TO PILE ON, BUT I JUST, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT RESIDENTS ARE GOING THROUGH WITH TYLER, AND I'VE BEEN VERY, VERY DISSATISFIED AND I'M SUR I'M REALLY SURPRISED TO SEE THEM BACK IN THE GAME AGAIN. UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I KNOW THAT, UH, THE ASSESSOR IS, UH, PREPARING A, A VIDEO, UM, YOU KNOW, RESPONDING TO CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, THE REASSESSMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL HAVE HER, HER, YOU KNOW, HER ANSWER, SHE DID INDICATE TO ME WHEN I SPOKE TO HER, YOU KNOW, THIS MORNING AND REMINDED HER, REMINDED US THAT THERE WERE, UM, THERE WAS A PUBLIC BIDDING, UM, FOR THIS, UH, FOR THE REASSESSMENT, I MEAN FOR THE ASSESSMENT. UM, UH, WHEN THEY STARTED, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS AND THE STATE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION, UM, REVIEWS THE ASSESSMENT AND FOUND THAT THE WORK WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, MET THE, MET WHAT, WHAT HAD TO BE DONE. BUT, UM, I WILL, UM, IF, YOU KNOW, I WILL, UM, ASK THE ASSESSOR TO, UH, TO GIVE YOU A RING AGAIN AND MAYBE YOU COULD JUST EMAIL ME, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR CONCERNS AND PHONE NUMBER AND WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU. THAT WOULD BE GREAT, PAUL. I'D APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU HAVE MY EMAIL ADDRESS, RIGHT? I DO, I DO. I'LL, I'LL BE IN TOUCH. THANK [03:15:01] YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW WE HAVE THE APPOINTMENT [ Appointment of Terrance Jackson to the position of Commissioner of the Department of Community Resources, effective April 6, 2021] OF TERENCE TERRANCE JACKSON TO THE POSITION OF COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES EFFECTIVE APRIL 6TH, 2021. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. PARENTS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? AYE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVE THE CENTER EVEN FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE IN GREAT COLLABORATION WITH THE TOWN. AS ALWAYS, I SAY YOU'RE IN A TIE AND JACKETS. IS THAT THE, THE NEW ROLE FOR A COMMISSIONER? RIGHT? DEFINITELY ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL 12 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. OKAY, GOOD. , CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK AND WISH YOU A VERY REWARDING, UM, AND SUCCESSFUL, UM, YOU KNOW, TENURE. AND THAT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT THAT, UH, DURING THE, UM, THE GREAT SOCIETY WHEN LYNDON JOHNSON WAS PRESIDENT, THERE WERE FIVE, UH, COMMUNITY CENTERS, UM, UM, BUILT AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND I BELIEVE, AND TERENCE YOU COULD CORRECT ME, I BELIEVE THAT THEY YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER RIGHT NOW IS ONLY ONE THAT'S STILL LEFT. THAT IS CORRECT SIR. AND THEY, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REALLY A CREDIT TO, UM, THE TOWN, UM, AND TO THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, THIS COMMUNITY CENTER CONTINUES TO BE, UM, A THRIVING AND IMPORTANT PART OF OUR, UH, TOWN. AND WE HOPE THAT THE CENTER WILL, UM, CONTINUE TO, UM, FLOURISH FOR, FOR MANY, UH, YEARS AND DECADES TO COME. THANK YOU. UM, APPOINTMENT [ BOARDS & COMMISSIONS Appointment of Jason Muldoon to the Hartsdale Contextual Review Committee] OF JASON MULDOON, THE HARTSDALE CONTEXTUAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TERM ENDING, UH, DATE TO BE DETERMINED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME RECORDS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT HE IS FILLING OUT SOMEBODY ELSE'S TERM OR HE HAS HIS OWN TERM ANY RESOLUTION. RATIFYING [ TB 1 - 4/14/2021 Resolution ratifying a Memorandum of Agreement with the Police Association of the Town of Greenburgh from January 1, 2019 to December 31, 2023] A MEMO OF AGREEMENT WITH THE POLICE ASSOCIATION OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2019 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2023. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD [ TB 2 - 4/14/2021 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh approving the Extension of Consolidated Water District No. 1 in the Town of Greenburgh] OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG APPROVING THE EXTENSION OF CONSOLIDATED WATER DISTRICT NUMBER ONE AND THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UH, [ AT 1 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Michael Kelly for property located at 90 North Broadway. The Town’s share of the refund is $421±; the County’s share is $3,176±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $461±; the Tarrytown Union Free School District’s share is $19,526±. Refunds from all sources total $23,584±] RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER MICHAEL KELLY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 90 NORTH BROADWAY. THE TOWN SHARE OF THE REFUND IS, UM, $4,421, TOTAL AMOUNT 23 5 84. UH, THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX, [ AT 2 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner 151 S. Fulton Street Corp/CSC Holdings, LLC for property located at 151 Fulton Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $96,517±; the County’s share is $55,746±; the Bronx Valley Sewer District’s share is $7,467±; the Greenburgh Central School District’s share is $247,189±; the Fairview Fire District’s share is $75,695±; the Consolidated Sewer Mtc. District’s share is $2.963±. Refunds from all sources total $485,577±] TERTIARY SETTLEMENT PETITIONER 1 51 SOUTH FUL STREET, TOTAL AMOUNT 4 85 5 7 7. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION [ AT 3 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Alessandra Realty Inc. for property located at 160 Fulton Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $5,757±; the County’s share is $3,236±; the Bronx Valley Sewer District’s share is $430±; the Greenburgh Central School District’s share is $14,797±; the Fairview Fire District’s share is $4,522±; the Consolidated Sewer Mtc. District’s share is $194±. Refunds from all sources total $28,937±] AUTHORIZING TAX TERTIARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER ALEXANDRIA REALTY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE 60 FULTON STREET. UH, UH, THE TOTAL AMOUNT 28,000 9 37. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION [ AT 4 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioners Cuateco, Roman & Fran, Antonio, for property located at 516 Tarrytown Road. The Town’s share of the refund is $9,033±; the County’s share is $5,161±; the Bronx Valley Sewer District’s share is $691±; the Greenburgh Central School District’s share is $23,281±; the Fairview Fire District’s share is $7,112±; the Consolidated Sewer Mtc. District’s share is $295±. Refunds from all sources total $45,573±] AUTHORIZING TEXAS CHIARI SETTLEMAN WITH PETITIONERS, UH, KO, ROMAN, AND FRAN TOTAL AMOUNT 45,573. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION [ AT 5 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Maplewood Swimming Club, Inc. for property located at 202 West Hartsdale Avenue. The Town’s share of the refund is $9,827±; the County’s share is $5,523±; the Bronx Valley Sewer District’s share is $739±; the Greenburgh Central School District’s share is $25,520±; the Hartsdale Fire District’s share is $9,096±; the Consolidated Sewer Mtc. District’s share is $345±. Refunds from all sources total $51,050±] AUTHORIZING TAX, ARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER MAPLEWOOD SWIMMING CLUB. TOTAL AMOUNT IS, UH, 50 1050. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. I'M JUST MAKING IT A LITTLE BIGGER FOR THE TB SCREEN. OKAY, NO PROBLEM. UM, RESOLUTION [ AT 6 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner R.S.A. Corporation for property located at 690 & 692 Saw Mill River Road. The Town’s share of the refund is $2,791±; the County’s share is $20,756±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $2,930±; the Ardsley Union Free School District’s share is $131,726±. Refunds from all sources total $158,203±] AUTHORIZING TAX TERTIARY I, SETTLEMENT PETITIONER R A CORP FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT SIX 90 AND 6 92. SO RIVER ROAD ONE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT, 1 58 2 0 3. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND, UH, SECOND. SO, OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION [ AT 7 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Veral Corp. for property located at 85 Fulton Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $2,482±; the County’s share is $1,401±; the Bronx Valley Sewer District’s share is $188±; the Greenburgh Central School District’s share is $6,349±; the Fairview Fire District’s share is $1,943±; the Consolidated Sewer Mtc. District’s share is $82±. Refunds from all sources total $12,445±] AUTHORIZING TAX ARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER LL COURT TOTAL AMOUNT 12,445. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. UM, LET'S SEE, UM, WITH RESOLUTION [ AT 8 – 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing settlement of property damage related claim, File No.: 16/21C, by Gabriela Grasa, for an amount not to exceed $2,076.47] AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT OF PROPERTY DAMAGE RELATED CLAIM BY GABRIELA RAZA FOR AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 2070 6 47. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UM, UM, RESOLUTION [ CL 1 - 4/14/2021 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, May 12, 2021, at 7:30 PM to invite Public Comment on the Town of Greenburgh proposed Community Development Block Grant Applications to be submitted to Westchester County Urban County Consortium for fiscal years 2022 - 2024] SCHEDULING PUBLIC HEARING [03:20:01] FOR WEDNESDAY MAY 12TH, UH, TO INVITE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG PROPOSED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT TO BE SUBMITTED TO WESTCHESTER COUNTY URBAN COUNTY CONSORTIUM 2022 2024. SECOND. UM, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. UM, [ CL 2 - 4/14/2021 Order of the Town Board setting a Public Hearing on April 28, 2021, 7:30 PM to consider the Extension of the Finmor Sewer District in the Town of Greenburgh] UH, ORDER OF TOWN BOARD SET SETTLING A, SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 28TH TO CONSIDER THE EXTENSION OF FINMORE SEWER DISTRICT IN THE VICINITY OF 7 0 1 DOS FERRY ROAD IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION DECLARING [ CD 1 - 4/14/2021 Resolution (1) declaring the intention of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh to be Lead Agency with respect to SEQRA for an action involving a zoning text amendment related to Battery Energy Storage Systems; and (2) referring the amendment to the Planning Board for a report and recommendation in accordance with the requirements of Section 285-64 of the Town’s Zoning Ordinance [Note: The continued inclusion of this resolution on the agenda is conditioned on Town Board authorization after its 4/13/2021 Work Session]] THE INTENT OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO BE LEAD AGENCY WITH RESPECT TO SEEKER AN ACTION INVOLVING THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT RELATED TO BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS BEST AND REFERRING THE AMENDMENT TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION IN ACCORDANCE FOR REQUIREMENT OF SECTION 2 85 64 OF THE TOWN ZONING ORDINANCE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING [ CO 1 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing fiscal year 2020 budget transfers] FISCAL YEAR 2020. BUDGET TRANSFERS. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION [ CO 2 - 4/14/2021 Resolution acknowledging the Required Examination and Audit of the Justice Court was conducted in Compliance with Section 2019-a of the Uniform Justice Court Act] ACKNOWLEDGING THE REQUIRED EXAMINATION AND ORDER OF THE JUSTICE COURT WAS CONDUCTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 2 0 1 9 OF THE UNIFORM, UH, JUSTICE COURT ACT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE AYE. [ CO 3 - 4/14/2021 Resolution amending the 2021 Town Entire Fund Budget to Reflect the Acceptance of the Justice Court Assistance Program (JCAP) Grant by Resolution PH1 - 2/24/2021] RESOLUTION AMENDING 2021 10 ENTIRE FUND BUDGET TO, UH, REFLECT ACCEPTANCE OF JUSTICE COURT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM RESOLUTION. PAGE 1 2 24 2 21. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION AMENDING [ CO 4 - 4/14/2021 Resolution amending the 2021 operating budget of the Town Outside Villages Fund for the Appropriated Debt Reserve] 2000 THOUSAND 21 OPERATING BUDGET OF THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGE FUND WITH APPROPRIATED DEBT RESERVE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION MOVING [ CO 5 - 4/14/2021 Resolution approving a Budget Amendment to the Risk Retention Fund for fiscal year 2021] A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE RISK RETENTION FUND FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. SUCH HESITANCY. . I DUNNO. YOU GOT OUTTA ORDER. [ PR 1 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing award to lowest responsible bidders for 2021 Grounds Maintenance Supplies, at a total cost for all items bid not to exceed $24,759.20] I KNOW. AUTHORIZING A AWARD TO LOWER, UH, RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS FOR 2021, UH, GROUNDS MAINTENANCE SUPPLIES AT A TOTAL COST FOR ALL ITEMS BID NOT TO EXCEED 24,000 759 20. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. A AYE RESOLUTION [ PR 2 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing a one year license agreement to operate a food concession at the Anthony F. Veteran Park Pool and Tennis Complex with O'Neill's Concessions, which will pay the Town $6,000.00 for the license, as well as $1,200.00 annually for electric utility service] AUTHORIZING A ONE YEAR LICENSE AGREEMENT TO OPERATE A FOOD CONCESSION AT THE ANTHONY VETERAN, UH, PARK POOL ON TENNIS COMPLEX WITH O'NEILL'S CONCESSIONS, WHICH WILL PAY THE TOWN $6,000 FOR THE LICENSE AS WELL AS $1,200 ANNUALLY FOR ELECTRIC, UH, UTILITY SERVICE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND AYE. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT WITH, UH, WE WERE TAKING THAT OFF THE AGENDA. P W ONE OH, I THOUGHT THAT CAME OFF. YEAH. OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. JUST ABOUT, OH, WHOA, WHOA. HOLD ON A SECOND. UH OH. NO, NO, NO, NO, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. JUST ONE MOMENT. VOILA. ALRIGHT, THAT'S THE SAME ONE. I'M MONEY JOKING. I'M I'M ON . GO AHEAD PAUL. UM, OKAY, SO P W [ PW 1 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing a Professional Service Agreement with H2M Architects and Engineers for design, bidding, construction, administration, construction observation and support to the Consolidated Water District for the Replacement of the Fairview Water Storage Tank project, for an estimated amount not to exceed $ 531,950] UM, ONE ONE, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS THERE, PAUL. YEAH. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH H TWO M ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS FOR DESIGN BID CONSTRUCTION, ADMINISTRATION CONSTRUCTION, OBSERVATION AND SUPPORT TO THE CONSOLIDATED WATER DISTRICT FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE FAIRVIEW WATER STORAGE, UM, TANK PROJECT FOR AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 5 31 9 50. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. NO IN FAVOR. AYE. UM, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING [ PW 2 - 4/14/2021 Resolution awarding the 2021 Annual Contract for Emergency Electrical Services to Morabito Electric, Inc., the lowest bidder, in an amount not to exceed the hourly labor rate of $112.00 on an as needed basis] 2021. UM, ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR EMERGENCY ELECTRICAL SERVICES TO MODO ELECTRIC, THE LOWEST BIDDER FOR AMOUNT NOT EXCEED NARROWLY LABOR RATE AT ONE 12 AN HOUR ON AN ON NEEDED BASIS AS NEEDED BASIS. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. [ PW 3 - 4/14/2021 Resolution awarding the 2021 Annual Contract for Emergency HVAC Plumbing Services to HRR Industries, Inc., the lowest bidder, in an amount not to exceed the hourly labor rate of $335.00 on an as needed basis] RESOLUTION. UM, AWARDING THE 2021 ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR EMERGENCY H V A C PLUMBING, UM, UH, TO H R R INDUSTRIES, THE LOWEST BIDDER AND AMOUNT NOT [03:25:01] TO EXCEED AN HOURLY RATE OF 3 35 ON AN A, UH, AS NEEDED BASIS. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. RELU RESOLUTION, UM, AUTHORIZING, [ PW 4 - 4/14/2021 Resolution awarding the 2021 Annual Contract for Emergency General Construction Services to Mohegan Park Contracting, the lowest bidder, in an amount not to exceed the hourly labor rate of $ 115.51 on an as needed basis] UH, RESOLUTION AWARDING THE 2021 ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR EMERGENCY GENERAL CONSTRUCTION SERVICES IN MOHEGAN PRIOR CONTRACTING THE LOWEST BIDDER IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THE HOURLY RATE OF ONE 15, UH, DOLLARS AND 51 CENTS ON NA NEEDED BASIS. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. SECOND WELL IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION AWARDING [ PW 5 - 4/14/2021 Resolution awarding bids for Emergency Sewer, Water and Street Excavation Repair and Restoration Services for 2021 on an as needed basis to the appropriate bidder] BID FOR EMERGENCY SEWER, WATER AND STREET EXCAVATION REPAIRS AND RESTORATION SERVICES FOR 2021 ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS TO THE APPROPRIATE BIDDER. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION, [ PW 6 - 4/14/2021 Resolution authorizing Change Order #1, amending the contract with Pettinelli Recreation for the Washington Avenue Playground Improvement project to provide additional site work for an amount not to exceed $72,964.40] UH, AUTHORIZING CHANGE ORDER, UH, NUMBER ONE, AMENDING THE CONTRACT WITH, UH, KEVIN ELLI, RECREATION AT, FOR THE WASHINGTON AVENUE PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SITE WORK FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $72,964 AND 40 CENTS. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AND THAT IS IT. AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE, READ ADJOURN SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. GOOD NIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.