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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD GREENBURGH TOWN HALL AGENDA WEDNESDAY, May 5, 2021 – 5:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 8:00 p.m. ]
EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, MEETING OF MAY 5TH, 2021.UH, WE DO HAVE SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES THIS EVENING, SO THERE WOULD NOT BE LIVE STREAMING OF THE, THE MEETING, BUT THE MEETING IS BEING RECORDED AND IT WILL BE POSTED APPROPRIATELY SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO START TONIGHT'S MEETING.
UH, THE FIRST THING I WOULD ASK FOR IS ROLL CALL.
UH, UH, THE, UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES FOR THE ULTIMATE, UH, ALTERNATE SEAT ON, UM, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND SO THAT PROCESS HAS TAKEN PLACE.
YOU ALL, EVERYONE ON THE BOARD HAVE A COPY OF, UH, THE PROCESS THAT'S BEING USED, AND THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE WILL FOLLOW.
UM, SO THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE, THE MINUTES OF, UH, APRIL 21ST, 2021.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES OF, UH, APRIL 21ST? I, I, I DO, I HAVE AN ADDITION TO MAKE ON PAGE THREE, UM, SECOND PARAGRAPH AT THE VERY END, UH, IN TERMS OF MY COMMENTS, UH, THAT I, UM, I WAS INQUIRING WHETHER OR NOT, UM, UH, THE REZONING OF, OF WHAT IS, UH, CONSIDERED RESEARCH, UM, BIO RESEARCH CENTER, UM, SOUTH, UH, WHERE THE APPLICATION RELATING TO PB 2102.
UH, I ASKED THE CANDIDATE AFTER WE APPROVE IT, 'CAUSE I WOULD JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT WASN'T HAVE ANY EFFECT ON OUR APPROVAL OF THE, THE SUBDIVISION THAT, UH, GIVE US ANY FEEDBACK IF WE, UH, IF THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS IMPLEMENTED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, NOT ONLY DID I ASK THE QUESTION, I ASKED THAT, UH, THAT THEY GET FEEDBACK THAT ASK THE APPLICANT TO GIVE US FEEDBACK ON THAT.
AND SO, UH, I WOULD, UM, ADD AS PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON THE POSSIBLE DESIGNATION OF R AND D SOUTH WILL COME AFTER, UH, MRS. GRAVE GRAY TO INFORM HER CLIENT OF THIS AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE, UH, FEEDBACK ON THE POSSIBLE DESIGNATION OF R AND D SOUTH.
ASK THE QUESTION, GET FEEDBACK.
THAT'S IF THERE'S NO OTHER CORRECTIONS TO THE, UH, TO THE MINUTES.
I, UH, I, I, MONA, LOOKS LIKE MS. F*G HAS A COMMENT.
UM, ON PAGE TWO, UNDER CASE NUMBER PB 16 DASH 25, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE TBA SUBDIVISION, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M PRONOUNCING THE LAST NAME CORRECTLY.
UM, WE WERE, WE HAD A SHORT BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EXTENSION, THE 90 DAY EXTENSION FOR SUBDIVISIONS.
AND WE HAD DISCUSSED POSSIBLY DRAFTING A LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD REGARDING EXTENDING THAT TO 180 DAYS.
AND WE ASKED THAT AARON, UM, DRAFT THAT LETTER AND DAVID SAID HE WAS GOING TO LOOK INTO, UM, THE NEW YORK STATE LAW FOR US AS WELL.
BUT THERE'S NO MENTION OF THAT HERE IN THE MINUTES, AND I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE MINUTES AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN REMEMBER TO GO BACK AND HAVE THAT LETTER DRAFTED.
DAVID, WERE YOU ABLE TO LOOK INTO THAT FOR US AND SEE WHAT I, I WAS, I MEAN, WHAT A, AND THERE WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, PERIODS OF TIME, I THINK, WITH RESPECT
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TO THE TE TAVR BARS, UH, WHO HAVE A, I DON'T WANNA BUTCHER THEIR NAME.ALTHOUGH THEY ONLY ASKED FOR 90, AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT LAST TIME, AND WE, WE COULD HAVE SAID, SURE, 180 DAYS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM, BUT IF THEY'RE DOING IT WITHIN IN 90, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
THE BIGGER PROBLEM I HAVE IS WHEN IT GOES FROM A, UM, A, WHEN THE FINAL SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN, UH, GRANTED AND THEY HAVE NOT, UH, DONE, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN, UH, STEPS, UH, THEN THEIR APPROVAL, UM, THEIR FINAL SUBDIVISION IS SUPPOSED TO EXPIRE WITHIN 1 880 DAYS.
AND, UH, THE PROVISIONS SEEM TO BE FOR 90 DAYS EACH.
I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT AT 90 DAYS.
UM, BUT IF THE BOARD WISHES TO, UH, EXPAND IT TO, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR TWO ADDITIONAL PERIODS OF A HUNDRED NINETY EIGHT, EIGHTY, NINETY DAYS EACH, SO IT'S 180 DAYS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT, I, I DON'T THINK THAT IS A, A BIG ASK FOR THE, FOR THE BOARD.
WELL, DAVE, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
DO WE KNOW THE REASON WHY, MO, I KNOW THERE'S SOME ECONOMIC REASONS, PARTICULARLY NOW BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT HOW MUCH OF IT IS RELATED TO THEM NOT GETTING APPROVAL FROM, LIKE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT STUFF BEYOND THEIR CONTROL? I, I, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, CURRENTLY THERE, THERE'S BEEN, OR I WOULD SAY DURING THE COURSE OF COVID ANYWAY, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF DELAYS WITH OBTAINING ENDORSEMENT FROM THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND A LOT OF APPLICANTS HAVE COME BEFORE THIS BOARD TO STATE THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO GET, YOU KNOW, SIGNATURE PRIOR TO THIS PROJECT, UH, OR THIS APPROVAL, UM, YOU KNOW, WINDOW CLOSING AND THEREFORE WE'RE SEEKING THE EXTENSION.
SO THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER IN NORMAL TIMES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'D SAY THAT THE COUNTY HAS MOVED THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IN A TIMELY FASHION.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO, I DO RECALL, HOLD ON, HOLD ON A SECOND.
YOU JUST, BECAUSE I WANNA FURTHER ANSWER THAT.
UM, I THINK, AND AARON, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK HOWEVER, THAT THOSE ISSUES GENERALLY INVOLVE THE PLI PRELIMINARY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY DO THE REAL HARD REVIEW, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT ALLOWS US 180 DAYS ATTENTION THERE.
COULD WE DO, RIGHT NOW, I LIKE TO GET THROUGH THE MINUTES.
COULD COULD YOU AND AARON, UH, UH, DAVID AND AARON GET TOGETHER AND GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT? WHAT THE, WHAT HAS BEEN THE HISTORY IN THE PAST AND WHAT YOU THINK, UH, WESTCHESTER COUNTY, UH, WILL DO? IT HAS BEEN OUR TRADITION THAT IF IT WAS WESTCHESTER COUNTY, A HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE AUTOMATICALLY GIVE IT.
BUT IF YOU COULD GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT AND SO WE COULD, UH, ADDRESS THIS, YOU KNOW.
YEAH, I WANNA GET IT ON THE MINUTES, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT, I, OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED.
WALTER, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED BY BOTH YOU AND, AND, UH, MS. FREITAG SECOND.
UH, THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE SEVERAL CORRESPONDENCE THAT CAME IN, UM, ONE BY, UH, UH, MR. BODEN RELATING TO PB 2016.
SO THAT WILL BECOME PART OF THE, OF THE CAPTAIN LAWRENCE, UM, UH, UH, FILE.
AND WE WILL TAKE THAT UP WHEN THAT, UH, BECOMES, UH, WHEN WE TAKE, THAT GETS BACK UP, UH, ON THE AGENDA.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS A, UM, A REQUEST FOR A EXTENSION FROM THE ST.
UH, WE, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER, UH, GIVEN THE REASONS THEY, THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET AN EXTENSION, AGAIN, WAS RELATED TO, UH, THE COVID, UH, UH, AND THE FACT THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO, THEY TEMPORARILY STOPPED ALL WORK FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
UH, I, UM, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT, UH, WE EX GIVE THAT EXTENSION THAT IS FOR, UM, A HUNDRED
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FOR TWO YEARS.YEAR EXTENSION IS A TWO YEAR, THAT'S A TWO YEAR EXTENSION.
I, I PROPOSE THAT WE, UH, WE EXTEND THE TWO YEAR EXTENSION ON, UM, SAN ANDREW'S GOLF COURSE.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? SECOND.
AYE, YOU OPPOSE? NO, HE SAID AYE.
ANDREW'S GOLF COURSE HAS BEEN APPROVED.
UM, THE, THE NEXT APPLICATION I ASKED FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME IN AND EXPLAIN BECAUSE THIS ORIGINAL, UH, APPROVAL GOES BACK TO JULY 19TH, 2018.
SO IT IS QUITE A BIT OF TIME THAT HAS, UH, GONE BY AND IT HAS, UH, LAPSED.
SO I ASKED FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, MR. MINUS TO COME IN AND EXPLAIN, UH, AND GIVE US A JUSTIFICATION FOR EXTENDED IT AT THIS POINT.
AND, UM, BEFORE MR. LENNI, UH, GETS STARTED, I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THIS RELATES TO CASE NUMBER PB 17 DASH 31, 1 95 GIBSON AVENUE.
AND, UH, THERE WAS A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD.
AS THE CHAIRPERSON INDICATED BACK ON JULY 19TH, 2018.
IT LAPSED OR EXPIRED ON JULY 19TH, 2020.
AND MR. LENIS IS HERE TO, UM, FOLLOW UP HIS LETTER, WHICH WENT TO THE BOARD REQUESTING THAT I CONSIDER A, A RETROACTIVE EXTENSION.
UH, HELLO TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS LEONARDO, AND I CURRENTLY LIVE AT 1 95 PETERSON AVENUE.
UM, I WAS GRANTED THE STEEP SLOPES PERMIT BACK IN 2018, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS.
UM, AND I'M HERE TO ADMIT THAT DUE TO SOME FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS DURING THE 2018, 2019 YEARS, I'M A SOLE PROPRIETARY OF AN ELECTRICAL, UH, CONTRACTING COMPANY.
UH, I WAS NOT ABLE TO CARRY OUT THE WORK BACK THEN, THEN IN THE YEAR 2020, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, EVERYTHING CAME TO A HALT.
UM, SO DURING THIS PROCESS ALSO, I LACK IN MY PART COMPLETELY FORGOT THAT THE PERMIT WILL EXPIRE.
NOW WHEN I'M READY TO MOVE, I REACH OUT TO, TO A AND HE HAD EXPLAINED THAT THE PERMIT HAD, UH, EXPIRED, THAT I NEEDED TO VISIT THE BOARD AGAIN.
I AM READY TO, UH, CON START THE WORK, DO THE WORK, JUST AS IT SHOWS ON THE DRAWINGS.
I HAVEN'T CHANGED ONE THING, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M HERE.
I, I, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR THE, UM, THE DRAINAGE, UH, UH, THERE IS A LETTER FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT INDICATE THAT, UM, THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM AS DESIGNED, IT'S ABOUT WHAT, FOUR TIMES, UH, UH, BETTER THAN, UH, THAT THE LAW REQUIRES.
SO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS, ACCORDING TO OUR OWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, IS AN EXCELLENT DESIGN.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION IS THAT THERE WAS, UH, A EITHER A GARAGE OR A ANCILLARY BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY THAT WAS IN POOR CONDITION.
AND AT THE TIME, UH, IT WAS NOT SLATED TO, UH, TO COME DOWN WITH THE IDEA THAT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE IT MIGHT BE REALLY REHABILITATED, BUT THAT, THAT, UH, UM, BUILDING HAS BEEN REMOVED.
SO THE, THE TWO KEY ISSUES OF THAT BUILDING AND THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS, UH, WERE ADDRESSED.
SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AS WE CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD EXTEND, UH, THIS, UH, GET, PROVIDE AN EXTENSION ON THIS APPLICATION.
I MOVED TO GRANT THE EXTENSION.
UH, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE GONNA WANNA DO IT SINCE IT'S EXPIRED NC PRO, RIGHT? MICHAEL? I THOUGHT I SAID THAT.
I, IT MUST BEEN MY, IT MUST HAVE BEEN MY AUDIO
COULD YOU SAY THAT IN ENGLISH, DAVE? I'M SORRY.
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US PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE LAW, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE REST OF US WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT IN ENGLISH, NO.NOW IT MEANS IT TRANSLATES TO, IT REVERTS BACK, UH, TO THE TIME WHEN IT EXPIRED OR RETROACTIVELY.
I COULDN'T SECOND IT IN LATIN, BUT, YOU KNOW.
SO HOW LONG ARE WE GRANTING THE EXTENSION FOR? TWO YEARS.
RIGHT? SO THAT WILL BE 2022, CORRECT.
QUESTION BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE, PLEASE.
ARE THERE ANY TREES OR ANYTHING THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN DOWN WITH THIS PERMIT? OH, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
THIS IS GONNA BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT'S THERE.
THE, THE MOTION'S ON THE TABLE, WALTER.
BUT I'M SAYING ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE, IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, EXTENDING, UH, UH, THE PERMIT FOR TWO YEARS AND THE LATIN PROTON PRO PRO A A A A A.
UM, MR. LINA, UH, WE APPROVE THE EXTENSION.
HOPEFULLY, UH, YOU'LL BE NOT, YOU'LL NOT BE COMING BACK FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION, AND I WISH EVERYTHING WILL BE IN PLACE SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS ON YOUR PROPERTY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL THE MEMBERS.
EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THAT IS ALL THE CORRESPONDENCE.
SO THE NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA, IT WOULD WILL BE, UM, OKAY.
OH, YES, THAT'S, UH, CASE NUMBER PB 21 DASH SIX.
THE ESSENTIAL JUUJITSU LOCATED AT 10 COUNTY CENTER ROAD, P O WHITE PLAINS IN THE L O B LIMITED OFFICE BUILDING ZONING DISTRICT, THE APPLICANT SEEKS A SPECIAL PERMIT, UH, FULL FOR A FULLY ENCLOSED COMMERCIAL RECREATION FACILITY, AS WELL AS A PLANNING BOARD SHARED PARKING REDUCTION FOR PROPOSAL CONSISTING OF THE CONVERSION OF APPROXIMATELY 7,975 SQUARE FEET OF VACANT OFFICE SPACE TO AN ESSENTIAL JUJITSU MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY SITE WORK AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
THE BUILDING ON SITE CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 168,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE, MUCH OF WHICH IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND REQUIRES 560 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES WHERE 265 SPACES EXIST ON THE SITE.
THE PROPOSED CONVERSION OF 7,975 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE TO FULLY ENCLOSED COMMERCIAL RECREATION SPACE REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL 13 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A SHARED PARKING REDUCTION FOR SITE PREVIOUSLY WAS GRANTED A SHARED PARKING REDUCTION OF 41 SPACES AS PART OF CASE NUMBER PB 14 DASH ZERO FIVE, THE VICTORY TABERNACLE PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONVERSION OF 3,475 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE TO A RELIGIOUS USE.
THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT IT'S EVENING CLASSES AFTER THE OFFICES IN THE BUILDING HAVE CLOSED FOR THE EVENING, CONSTITUTE THE MAJORITY OF ITS BUSINESS.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. KAREN BEFORE YOU DO.
THE REASON THIS IS A SPECIAL PERMIT, IT'S O IT'S OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, MY NAME IS YOLANDA ESCARO.
JONATHAN TORRES, AND, UH, WE ARE THE OWNERS OF ESSENTIAL JIUJITSU.
OUR STUDIO CURRENTLY IS IN HARTSDALE, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE TRAIN STATION.
AND, UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND TO A BIGGER SPACE.
THE SPACE IS GONNA BE 8,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, AND WE'RE JUST REQUESTING THAT, UH, YOU GUYS GRANT US THE REDUCTION IN THE SHARED PARKING SO THAT WE CAN MOVE TO THE BIGGER LOCATION.
AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE APPLICANT IN ITS SUBMISSION MATERIALS IDENTIFIED, UH, THE LOCATION FOR THE BUILDING.
I'M HAPPY TO SHARE MY SCREEN TO PUT THAT UP SO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD CAN SEE THE SITE
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AND THE LOCATION.UM, FURTHER, THE APPLICANT IN ITS MATERIALS IDENTIFIED HOW THE PROJECT MEETS THE SPECIAL PERMIT CRITERIA AS OUTLINED IN THE TOWN CODE.
AND FURTHER, UH, WE DID GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AS REQUIRED UNDER THE CODE IN CONNECTION WITH THE APPLICANT'S SHARED PARKING REDUCTION REQUEST, WHEREIN HE SUPPORTED, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, ISSUING THAT SHARED PARKING REDUCTION.
CAN EVERYONE SEE THE SCREEN? YES.
SO I'M JUST GONNA MAKE THE SCREEN, UM, UM, BIGGER.
THAT'S THE INTERIOR OF IT, WHICH IT'S REALLY UP TO THE BUILDING'S DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF THE AREA, SO, OKAY, COOL.
THERE'S A C V SS HERE, NESTOS PIZZA AND DELI MOST OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SUBJECT BUILDING.
THE SPACE IS KIND OF SITUATED IN THE NORTHERLY PORTION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.
UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU ANOTHER IMAGE OF IT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PLAN, KIND OF THE LAYOUT OF THE PARKING SPACES.
THEY ARE GONNA HAVE A NUMBER OF PARK, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE, AS WELL AS BEHIND THE SITE, AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE AS WELL.
ALTHOUGH I IMAGINE MOST PEOPLE GOING TO THE MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AREA.
UM, AS NOTED, THERE IS A, UH, BUNCH OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT REMAINS VACANT.
UH, SO THE BUILDING IS NOT FULLY OCCUPIED.
IT'S BEEN OBSERVED AT THE PARKING LOT IS NOT FULLY OCCUPIED AS WELL.
NOW, I CAN SHOW YOU THE FLOOR PLAN, IF YOU'D LIKE, FOR THE STUDIO.
YEAH, WELL, WE, THE, THAT'S, YEAH.
WE COULD SHOW THE FLOOR PLAN, BUT I DO NOT WANNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE FLOOR PLAN ITSELF, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE BUILDING'S APARTMENT.
OUR MAIN CONCERN IS THE USE OF THAT BUILDING AND HOW, AND THE EFFECTS IT WILL HAVE ON PARKING.
NO, I MEAN, UH, BOARD MEMBERS MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE INTERIOR THAT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE ASK IF YOU DO.
WELL, WE ARE GRANTING A SPECIAL PERMIT HERE.
WE'RE NOT JUST GRANTING A PARKING WAIVER.
SO I, I, I DO THINK THINGS LIKE UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE EGRESSES ARE FROM THE, FROM, FROM THAT, UH, PROPERTY FOR FIRE RE FROM THAT, FROM THEIR FACILITY FOR FIRE REASONS AND THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A MAIN DOOR, DOUBLE DOOR OFF THE, THERE IS, THERE'S A MAIN DOOR HERE, DOOR INTO THE CORRIDOR.
AND WHERE ARE THE EMERGENCY EXITS? THERE'S ONE, UM, INTO THE HALLWAY.
YEAH, YOU'VE GOT RIGHT THERE OUT HERE.
YOU'VE GOT OVER, AND I THINK IF I READ THE DIAGRAM CORRECTLY, THAT THE FIRE CODE INDICATE IT CANNOT BE OVER 300 FEET DISTANCE FROM ANY LOCATION TO A FIRE EXIT.
AND I BELIEVE THE LARGEST ONE, I'M DOING THIS FROM MEMORY NOW, SO ACCUSED, IF I'M WRONG, WAS LESS THAN 200 FEET, 180 SOMETHING FEET.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WHAT ABOUT SPRINKLERS, AARON? UM, I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT WITH RESPECT TO THAT, MS. HARRIS, UH, THE, ACTUALLY A ANI, UH, WHO IS THE LANDLORD OF THE BUILDING, THEY'RE PUTTING IN SPRINKLERS FOR THE LOCATION.
WE'VE HAD, WE'VE JUST HAD THAT ISSUE BEFORE WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE GOING INTO A NEW BUILDING, LIKE A BUILDING LIKE THIS, WHERE WE HAD TO HAVE SPRINKLER, MAKE SURE SPRINKLERS ARE PUT IN BECAUSE THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED.
SO IF WE APPROVE, UH, THIS APPLICATION, SO, UH, SPRINKLERS WOULD BE, WE CAN CONDITION THE SPRINKLERS MUST BE INSTALLED, CORRECT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY ARE BEING INSTALLED, YES.
AS ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE OTHER, WHAT FLOOR? YOU'RE ON AN WHAT FLOOR ARE YOU GUYS ON? GROUND.
SO YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH JUMPING UP AND DOWN ON THE YEAH, THERE'S NOBODY BODY UNDERNEATH US.
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SIGNAGE? UM, IT'S THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.SO, UH, IT WOULD BE ABOVE THIS DOOR HERE, IF YOU SEE RIGHT THERE.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OKAY.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD FACE THE, THAT LITTLE BACK PARKING LOT.
WOULD THERE BE ANY, ANY SIGNAGE OUT OFF THE BUILDING? YOU THINKING OF THAT OR, I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU MO ASK YOUR QUESTION.
IS THERE GOING TO BE A PYLON SIGN? UM, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN TAKE THE SIGN THAT WE HAVE NOW, UH, THAT'S ON EAST HARSDALE AND POSITION IT OVER THE DOOR.
UH, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO CHECK IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
SO THERE'LL BE NOTHING ON THE STREET TO TELL PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE THERE? WE, WE MAY DO SOME KIND OF, UH, LIKE FLYERS OR SOMETHING, BUT WE DO MOST OF OUR, UH, ADVERTISING THROUGH LIKE INTERNET MARKETING.
HOW MANY, HOW, WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS GOING TO BE? SO, UH, WE HAVE CLASSES, UH, WE START AT AROUND 6:30 AM AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, LIKE 10 O'CLOCK, UH, A MID-AFTERNOON CA CLASS.
BUT THOSE ARE USUALLY OUR SMALLER CLASSES.
IT'S NOT TILL LIKE, UH, FOUR 15 ISH IS THAT TO ABOUT 9:00 PM NINE 30 THAT WE GET THE BULK OF OUR BUSINESS.
AND HOW MANY PEOPLE PER CLASS? IT'S USUALLY AROUND, I MEAN, PRE COVID TIMES LIKE 20 TO 25 PEOPLE PER CLASS.
AND IS THIS ONE CLASS, UH, PER, AT THE FACILITY AT A TIME, OR DO YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CLASS? RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'LL BE TWO MAT SPACES, SO THERE'LL BE TWO CLASSES GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.
COULD YOU, AS OPPOSED TO CLASSES, COULD YOU GIVE US THE SAME INFORMATION IN TERMS OF PEOPLE, SO REALLY WHAT IMPACTS THIS IS PEOPLE ARRIVING AT WHAT TIMES OF THE DAY.
SO YOU SAY YOU HAVE THREE PERIODS IN THE MORNING PRE COVID.
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR EXPECTATION IN THE MORNING? WHAT WOULD BE YOUR EXPECTATION DURING THE DAY, AND WHAT WOULD BE YOUR EXPECTATION DURING THE LAST LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING? IN TERMS OF PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO CLASSES? UM, FOR THE STUDIO, LIKE PRE COVID, UH, NOW, BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE MAT SPACE, I WOULD SAY IN DIFFERENT HOURLY PERIODS, IT WOULD BE, UH, 25 TO 30 PEOPLE PER, PER HOUR AT NIGHT.
UH, IN THE MORNING, I WOULD SAY MAYBE AROUND 50, BUT AT DIFFERENT HOUR PERIODS.
SO THOSE, SO 25 TO 50 PEOPLE COULD BE COMING AND GOING AT THE SAME TIME, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, NOT AT THE SAME TIME.
I MEAN, UH, EVERY HOUR, BUT FROM FOUR TO SIX, UH, THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE THE KIDS' CLASSES AND WE PREFER THAT THE, THE KIDS GET DROPPED OFF AND THE PARENTS DON'T STAY.
AND TYPICALLY WE ALSO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GAP IN BETWEEN THE CLASSES OF 15 MINUTE GAP, SO THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT.
AND THE ONE, THE ONLY THING, I MEAN, I, IT'S GREAT TO SEE SOMEONE WANTING TO TAKE SPACE IN THAT BUILDING.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN, HAD A LARGE VACANCY RATE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, SO.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS IT'S THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THAT BUILDING IS NOT ALL THAT GREAT.
IT'S ALMOST ALL FROM ONE, ONE DIRECTION, I BELIEVE, WHICH IS BY NESTOS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE, IF WE'VE, IF IT'S WORTHWHILE, SEE WHAT THE REST OF OUR BOARD THINKS OF WHETHER OR NOT OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT SHOULD LOOK AT THAT AS TO WHAT THE IMPACT IS, IS AT THAT CORNER, ISN'T THE ENTRANCE, UH, TO THE PARKING LOT OFF OF THE, UM, ROTARY? YEAH.
AND, AND THEN YOU GO BY, YOU HAVE TO END UP GOING, UNLESS YOU WANNA GO THROUGH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS EVEN MORE PROBLEMATIC, YOU END UP GOING BETWEEN NESTOS AND C AND C V S ON THE WAY OUT OR, UH, YEAH, ON THE WAY OUT.
RIGHT? ON THE WAY IN, YOU COULD TAKE COUNTY CENTER ROAD.
ON THE WAY IN, IF, IF, IF YOU GO OUT OF, UH, THE ROAD RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING, UH, IF YOU WOULD REVERSE AND GO OUT THE SAME WAY TO GET ON CENTRAL AVENUE, YOU CAN ONLY GO WEST.
HOWEVER, IF YOU JUST GO AROUND THE CIRCLE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING THROUGH A, A, A, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST GOING AROUND THAT CIRCLE AND YOU COME BACK OUT, THEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF GOING
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EAST OR WEST.SO, SO YOU, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL END UP BETWEEN THAT AT THAT INTERSECTION WHERE NESTOS IS AND C V S IS RIGHT NOW THERE.
THIS, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER ALL THE, THE ULU WE HAD WHEN WE, WHEN WE BUILT THE, THE APARTMENTS BEHIND NESTOS.
UM, IT HAS HAD ZERO IMPACT THAT I CAN SEE ON TRAFFIC.
I, I GO TO THE C V S A A LOT, AND, UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN A PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD GIVE, GOT PROBLEM IS YOU GET PROBABLY 20, 25 PEOPLE LEAVING AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT, THAT WOULD CONCERN ME A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO ABOUT THAT.
IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A CONSTANT, IT'S NOT LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING WHERE IT'S ONE TWICE A DAY.
YOU HAVE BETWEEN 10 AND 20 PEOPLE LEAVING EVERY HOUR.
I DON'T, WELL, WELL, DURING THE DAY WE ONLY HAVE, I WOULD SAY TWO CLASSES, UH, 6:30 AM THEN A 10, AND THEN MAYBE AN 11:00 AM EVERY OTHER DAY.
UM, IN THE MORNING, WE DON'T HAVE, LIKE, LIKE WE WERE SAYING EARLIER, WE DON'T DO THE BULK OF OUR BUSINESS IN THE MORNING.
I MEAN, IN THE MORNING I DON'T SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE COMING IN AND NOW, ESPECIALLY 6:30 AM CLASS.
UH, TYPICALLY WE'LL HAVE 10, 12 PEOPLE COME TO THAT EARLY MORNING CLASS.
AND OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S NOT THAT BUSY UNTIL AFTER HOURS FOR MOST OTHER BUSINESSES OR AFTER FOUR OR FIVE, SIX REALLY, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF, LIKE YOLANDA WAS SAYING FIVE AND NINE O'CLOCKS, WHEN WE GET SOMEWHAT BUSY, WHEN, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I BELIEVE, I DON'T THINK C V SS IS THAT BUSY AFTER I WOULD SAY FIVE OR SIX, THEY'RE NEVER THAT BUS.
THE, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S THERE, THE ONLY TIME THAT AREA IS, IS SOMEWHAT BUSY IS IF NESTOS IS BUSY AT LUNCH.
OTHERWISE, YEAH, THAT'S ONE WE SLOW.
OTHERWISE, OTHERWISE, THAT'S ONE.
OTHERWISE YOU SEE ALMOST NO TRAFFIC FOR, I SEE VERY LITTLE CHANGE IN TRAFFIC NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF THE DAY I GO THROUGH THERE.
OUR BUSINESS IS USUALLY PRETTY DEAD BETWEEN THE HOURS, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 12 AND FOUR.
USUALLY THAT'S WHEN WE GO HOME, WALK THE DOG, CLEAN THE MATS, AND THEN COME BACK TO TEACH FOR NIGHT.
AND I MEAN, I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW, HOW PEOP HOW IT WOULD LOOK WHEN PEOPLE LEFT AFTER A LARGE CLASS AT NIGHT.
WHETHER OR NOT, I MEAN, I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING.
I MEAN, I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT THE PUBLIC WHO LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY THINK ABOUT THIS.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE BUSINESS THERE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS THE FACT, I MEAN, IT'S AL IT'S VERY, IF YOU EVER GO TO C V S, IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING 'CAUSE YOU WANNA TAKE A LEFT OUTTA C V S AND YOU CAN'T.
YOU EITHER HAVE TO SEE IF THERE'S, THERE'S SOMEBODY AROUND OR YOU DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND THE CIRCLE.
SO I, I THINK MY ONLY CONCERN IS HOW THE COMMUNITY WOULD FEEL ABOUT THIS FACILITY IN THERE, UM, FROM A TRAFFIC POINT OF VIEW.
AND, AND DO WE NEED TO JUST GET OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO JUST TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THIS? THOSE I IS THERE IS DO WE, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, GET THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO GIVE THEIR OPINION ON THIS PRO UH, PROJECT.
UH, I THINK Q I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A CONCERN, BUT I DON'T SEE IT BEING A PROBLEM.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S NOT LIKE EVERYONE'S LINED UP LEAVING THE EXACT SAME MOMENT.
UM, I MEAN, I USED TO GO IN THERE ALL THE TIME WHEN IT WAS STAPLES AND IT'S, IT'S USUALLY NOT THAT BUSY.
UNLESS NESTOS IS, IS BACKED UP A LITTLE NOW THEY HAVE MORE ROOM.
I REALLY DON'T SEE IT BEING AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PERSONALLY.
UH, BOARD MEMBERS AND TROOPERS.
AND SIMON, I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE MR. B, UH, BJ TARI HERE, ANI BJ TARI HERE, WHO'S RAISED, UM, THEIR HAND AND REPRESENTS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND CAN HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT.
OH, JUST BEFORE WE GO TO HIM, UM, I JUST WANT TO, UH, GIVE ALL BOARD MEMBERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STATE, UH, THEIR OPINION UPON THIS OR CONCERNS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO MR. BAHARA, UH, I'M, I'M, HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE THE NAME CORRECTLY? I DON'T WANNA BUTCHER YOUR NAME.
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ASK THAT.THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. BAKARI.
UM, I, I HAVE NO PARTICULAR CONCERNS.
I MEAN, AARON, UH, SHOULD WE BE SCHEDULING THIS FOR PUBLIC HEARING SOON? UH, WELL, THAT WOULD LIKELY BE THE NEXT STEP TO PUT THIS ON FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONCERN? UH, THEN I'LL JUST TURN IT OVER TO MR. BARR.
I SEE MON MONA'S RAISED HER HAND.
THE, UM, I AGREE WITH TOM THAT IT'S PRETTY, UH, EMPTY SPACES.
SO THERE, I I DON'T THINK THERE IS REALLY CONCERNS WITH TOO MANY, UH, TRAFFIC PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, THE NEXT APPLICANTS AND MAYBE A PROBLEM SINCE THE BUILDING IS VERY, UH, IT, IT'S VACANT AND THERE'S NOT MANY TENANTS.
SO I THINK FOR NOW, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM.
UH, YEAH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND I THINK MR. BUCK, ARI, IF I GOT THAT RIGHT, UM, CAN HELP US WITH THIS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT LIGHTING FOR THE EVENING HOURS, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE, THEY'RE LATE AT NIGHT WITH THE, UM, BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE HAVING.
THEY SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF NIGHT HOURS FOR CLASSES, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH LIGHTING IN THE PARKING AREA FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE EXITING IN THE EVENING.
SO HE CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME.
COULD YOU, HEY, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, THE ONLY TIME I SEE TRAFFIC BACKED UP THERE REALLY IS IN THE MORNING DURING RUSH, DURING RUSH HOUR.
AND THERE'S ONLY ONE DRIVEWAY ON THAT SIDE ONCE YOU GO AR AF AROUND THE, UH, TURNAROUND.
SO, UM, THEY WOULD BE THE ONLY BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE, COULD BE POTENTIALLY INCONVENIENCED DURING THAT HOUR OF THE DAY.
BEYOND THAT, THERE'S USUALLY NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC BUILDUP.
SO EVEN THE LATE HOURS OF THE AFTERNOON AND INTO THE EVENING, I DON'T SEE THERE BEING A CONCERN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW NECESSARY A TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD BE.
COULD, UH, WHERE IS HE, WHERE IS THE APPLICANT? UH, MR. BAKARI, YOU STILL HERE? I I'M HERE.
I'M JUST HAVING SOME DIFFICULTIES.
UNFORTUNATELY, I'M, I'M PULLED OVER IN, UH, MANHATTAN.
I HAD TO GO, UH, SEE SOMEONE REGARDING SOMETHING ELSE, AND THIS IS WHEN THE MEETING WAS.
SO I'M PULLED OVER ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET, MANHATTAN IN MY TRUCK, AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER, IS THERE ANY OTHER INFORMATION? UH, YEAH, YOU CAN PROVIDE THIS BOARD IN REFERENCE TO YOUR APPLICATION? SURE.
I, I'VE BEEN MAKING NOTES AS THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN SPEAKING, AND I, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE PLEASE.
UM, ONE WAS THE, UH, FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.
SO THE BUILDING AS WE'VE BEEN, UH, GETTING NEW TENANTS AND DOING REMODELING INSIDE THE BUILDING.
UM, TWO THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THE BUILDING.
NUMBER ONE IS ALL THE NEW SPACES ARE GETTING A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM AND THE EXISTING FIRE ALARM SYSTEM, WHICH WAS IN EFFECT SINCE 1957, SINCE IT WAS, UH, VERIZON AND NEW YORK TELEPHONE IS BEING UPDATED.
AND, AND THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE FAIRVIEW FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN REALLY HAPPY ABOUT BECAUSE ALL OF THE, UH, THREE O'CLOCK AND FOUR O'CLOCK FALSE ALARMS HAVE, HAVE CEASED SINCE WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT AND WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING, YOU KNOW, A A COORDINATED EFFORT, THE ENTIRE BUILDING TO CHANGE THINGS AROUND FOR THE BETTER, BETTER.
SO THE APPLICANT'S SPACE, UH, WILL BE, WILL FEATURE A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, WHICH A FIRE, UM, A FIRE SPRINKLER, AND THEN THEIR FIRE ALARM SYSTEM WILL BE TIED INTO OUR CENTRAL BUILDING AS WELL TOO.
SO I HOPE THAT THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION IN, IN REGARDS TO THE SIGNAGE, UH, CURRENTLY WE DON'T ALLOW ANY TENANTS TO PUT ANY SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING.
WE'RE TALKING TO, UH, BOTH, UH, YOLANDA AND JT, UH, REGARDING HOW, IF ANY, THERE COULD BE SIGNAGE ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
BUT THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS THAT'S A SEPARATE, SEPARATE APPLICATION AT A LATER POINT ANYWAY.
SO INITIALLY THERE'S NOTHING, UM, BUT IN THE FUTURE WE'LL BE LOOKING TO SEE HOW TO ACCOMMODATE THEM, AND IF THERE WILL BE ANYTHING, IT'LL BE IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING AND BACK OF THE BUILDING, MEANING IT'S THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY.
IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF ACCESSIBILITY, CAN EVERYONE STILL HEAR ME? YES.
IN TERMS OF ACCESSIBILITY, UM,
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WE, WE WANTED, UM, BOTH, UH, UH, MR. TORRES AND, AND YOLANDA TO HAVE A SEPARATE ENTRANCE INTO THE BUILDING.UH, AND THAT'S THEIR OWN ENTRANCE, SO THAT THEY'RE ALMOST LIKE THEIR OWN ISLAND.
THEY OPERATE AT THEIR OWN HOURS AND, UH, THEY, THEY CAN OPERATE AS THEY SEE FIT.
UM, THEIR HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY IS HANDLED BY ANOTHER DOOR, WHICH IS THROUGH THE, UH, NORTH BUILDING ENTRANCE, WHICH IS THE PARKING LOT ENTRANCE.
BUT OTHERWISE, BETWEEN THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM AND THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM, UH, THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH ADEQUATE TIME FOR ANYONE TO LEAVE THE PREMISES OF THEIR SPACE, UH, WITHIN, WITHIN THE, UH, ALLOTTED TIME THAT THE CODE LAOS.
AND IN REGARD THE OTHER POINT THAT, UH, UH, MONO FRANK TAG, UH, ISSUE WITH LIGHTING IN THAT BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO ALL OF THE, UH, LIGHTING HAS BEEN UPGRADED WITH, UH, RAB WRAP LIGHTING.
IT'S ACTUALLY A COMPUTER CONTROLLED SYSTEM CALLED, UM, UH, THE NAME'S ESCAPING ME, BUT IT'S, UH, SOMETHING CLOUD, IT'S A CLOUD-BASED SYSTEM MADE BY A COMPANY CALLED RAB.
SO ALL, ALL THAT LIGHTING HAS BEEN UPDATED, IT'S CONTROLLED, IT'S COMPUTER CONTROLLED, AND THEN IT'S EVEN ON A SCHEDULE WHERE THE SCHEDULE AUTOMATICALLY CHANGES TO WHERE THE COMPUTER KNOWS THE PROPERTY IS ACCORDING TO WHERE ITS POSITION OF THE EARTH IN THE ATMOSPHERE IS LIKE, IT, IT, IT AUTOMATICALLY CHANGES.
IT, THERE'S ALWAYS LIGHTING THERE NOW.
AND, AND THE LAST THING, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE EGRESS AND EXIT OUT OF THE FACILITY, IT, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT YES, NESTOS THAT LIGHT AT NESTOS, UH, CAN LET YOU GO EAST OR WEST ON ONE 19, BUT FOR MOST PEOPLE EXITING WEST, UH, THEY NORMALLY GO THE OTHER WAY.
THEY COME OUT OF, THEY GO IN FRONT OF 10 COUNTY CENTER AND GO WHERE THE, UH, COUNTY CENTER MEETS ONE 19, AND YOU CAN MAKE THE RIGHT HAND TURN THERE WITH LITTLE OR NO TRAFFIC AND GET TO WHERE YOU GOTTA GO A LOT FASTER THAN WAITING AT THE LIGHT AT NESTOS.
BECAUSE THE BUILDING HAS TWO ENTRANCES, HAS, UH, TWO WAYS, UH, IN, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND HAS TWO WAYS IN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN YOU CAN EXIT IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING WEST, MOST PEOPLE EXIT TOWARDS THE COUNTY CENTER BECAUSE THAT'S AN EASIER, INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THE LIGHT, YOU JUST WAIT FOR CARS NOT TO, NOT TO BE AROUND.
AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR, YOUR RIGHT HAND TURN RIGHT THERE.
FI FINALLY, I, I DON'T THANK YOU.
FINALLY, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I, UH, WANTED TO LET THE BOARD MEMBERS KNOW, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY KNOW OR NOT, BUT, UM, JT TORRES, UH, WHO, JT TORRES AND YOLANDA, UH, JT TORRES IN THE JIUJITSU WORLD IS INTERNATIONALLY RANKED.
HE'S PROBABLY, UH, IN THE TOP FIVE, IF NOT THE TOP THREE IN HIS WEIGHT DIVISION.
HE IS AN EXTRAORDINARY, TALENTED INDIVIDUAL AND AN EXTRAORDINARY TALENTED TEACHER.
UH, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM COME AND, UH, OPEN UP A WORLD THIS, THIS FACILITY THAT HE'S LOOKING TO DO IS GONNA BE WORLD CLASS.
IT'S GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC FACILITY.
UM, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
IT'S GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT'S GREAT FOR THE PEOPLE, IT'S GREAT FOR THE BUILDING.
IT'S, IT'S GREAT ALL AROUND, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM.
UM, WITH THE EGRESS, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO PUT UP SOME SIGNAGE THAT WOULD DIRECT PEOPLE TOWARDS THAT ALTERNATE WAY OUT? BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU CAN DIRECT PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE CIRCLE, BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED THEY'RE GONNA END UP IN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT WOULD HELP AN AWFUL LOT AND, AND DRAIN OFF A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC.
I, I THINK THAT, THAT THAT'LL PROBABLY BE HANDLED INTERNALLY.
I'M SURE YOLANDA AND AND JT ARE GOING TO, UH, TELL THEIR STUDENTS WHICH WAY, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, DON'T WAIT AT THE LIGHT, MAKE A LEFT INSTEAD, GO THIS WAY.
AND PEOPLE NORMALLY FIGURE IT OUT, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN RENTING SPACE RIGHT NOW AT THE BUILDING ON THE THIRD FLOOR, AND I TALK TO THOSE TENANTS.
WE, WE HAVE, UH, AN AWESOME, YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAVE AN AWESOME, UH, NEW TENANTS THAT HAVE BEEN JOINING THE PROPERTY, AND I TALK TO THEM ON A DAILY BASIS, AND THEY'RE ALL BEEN FINDING THEIR, THEIR WAY IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE TRICKS OF THAT LIGHT, BECAUSE THE LIGHT IN FRONT OF NESTOS ON ONE 19 IS, IS, UH, IT'S VERY TEMPERAMENTAL.
IT, IT ONLY GIVES YOU THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
BUT YEAH, IT, IT ONLY GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO LEAVE.
SO MOST PEOPLE, LIKE I SAID, LIKE MYSELF, I, I ALMOST NEVER EXIT THE LIGHT AT NESTOS, AND I'VE BEEN THERE.
I, I, I KNOW THAT LIGHT AND IT'S FRUSTRATING.
WHICH IS WHY I, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE IT A CONDITION OF THE SPECIAL PERMIT THAT THAT DIRECTIONS BE GIVEN OUT TO THE STUDENTS
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YEAH.AS TO ALTERNATE WAYS OF GETTING OUT.
BUT I WANNA DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK, I THINK HEADING TO THE, YOU KNOW, HEADING TOWARDS THE SOUTH EXIT, NEXT TO CROSS COUNTY, UH, NEXT TO THE COUNTY CENTER, THAT'S, MOST PEOPLE FIND IT THEMSELVES, AND I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, YOLANDA AND JT ARE GONNA GIVE THE BEST ADVICE TO THEIR STUDENTS.
UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA FIGURE IT, BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA FIGURE IT OUT, INSTEAD OF WAITING AT THIS LIGHT, I CAN JUST GO LEFT AND MAKE A RIGHT AND BE ON THE ROAD AND BE ON MY WAY IN, IN, IN A QUARTER OF THE TIME, A FRACTION OF THE TIME.
AND THAT'S, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I, I, I DON'T THINK, AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I, IF YOU THINK I'M WRONG, THAT YOU GIVEN A DIRECT, UH, UH, ANSWER THAT IS, IT IS SUITABLE TO THE SITUATION.
UH, WHAT IS THE DOWNSIDE IN HAVING A SIGN IN THE PARKING LOT AND SAY, WESS, UH, THIS WAY EAST, GO THAT WAY.
WHAT IS THE HARDSHIP? WHAT IS THE THE DOWNSIDE FOR DOING THAT? NONE WHATSOEVER.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE.
THAT WOULD HELP ME AN AWFUL LOT, WALTER.
UM, WITH, IF THERE IS NO, IF THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS APPLICATION, UH, WALTER? YES.
I, I KIND OF, UH, AND WE, UM, UH, WHENEVER THIS KIND OF PARKING REDUCTION COMES UP, AND I, I AGREE IT'S NOT RELATED TO, UH, THE PARKING PROBLEM OR OTHER STUFF, BUT I THINK IF WE CAN ASK THE OWNER, UH, OF THE BUILDING TO PROVIDE US, SAY, UH, UH, SORT OF A SPACE FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING WOULD BE GO LONG WAY TO, UH, HAVING THIS, UH, NEW TENANTS, NEW PEOPLE COMING IN WITH, UH, WITH THEIR, UH, CHANGE TO THE, UH, VEHICLES GOING BE ELECTRIC VEHICLES GONNA BE COMING IN.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IT APPLIES TO THIS PARTICULAR, BUT AS OVERALL, A PLANNING BOARD COULD, COULD REQUIRE THAT THEY AT LEAST PROVIDE A COUPLE OF PARKING SPACES OR ONE PARKING SPACE WITH A CHARGING STATION.
I WOULD NOT PUT IT AS PART OF THIS.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A GLOBAL PLAN FOR ELECTRIC CHAR CHARGING SYSTEMS. AND I WOULDN'T I AGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK IT'S, UH, WAY PREMATURE TO, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE THAT AT THIS POINT.
UH, NO, I, IF I, KURT, I MEAN, KURT WAS NOT ADVOCATING IT.
HE WAS SAYING WE AS A PLANNING BOARD, WHEN PEOPLE COME IN FOR MAKE, UH, CHANGES IN THEIR, IN THE PARKING IN A FACILITY, UH, WE SHOULD CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THAT SHOULD BE DONE.
I DON'T, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, THAT AT THE MOMENT, WALTER, FOR THE REASON THAT IT'S NOT, NOT GONNA HAVE, LEMME EXPLAIN.
I, I THINK WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN GREENBERG AND, UH, ON, ON CHARGING STATIONS.
AND, AND I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY, THERE'S A COMMITTEE GOING TO BE FORMED TO, TO WRITE THAT.
AND I THINK THERE COULD BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF IT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU UNILATERALLY WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THAT WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE WHOLE ISSUE OF WHERE CHARGING A STATION SHOULD GO.
AND PART OF THAT MAY BE REQUIRING BUILDINGS TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF TWO OR THREE OF THESE THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
BUT DON'T FORGET, WITH A CHARGING, IT'S NOT JUST TWO SPACES.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A A, SOME KIND OF GENERATOR WITH IT.
IT TAKES UP A LOT MORE THAN TWO SPACES.
SO, UM, I, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE THAT PROBLEM FOR GRANTED.
WE ARE NOT GONNA SOLVE THIS PROBLEM HERE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A PLANNING BOARD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT FOR THE FUTURE.
WELL, UH, IF IT MEANS THAT WE, UH, UH, UM, HAVE A, UH, UH, A COMMITTEE TO DESIGN A, A HOLISTIC, UH, UH, UH, PARKING POLICY FOR THE TOWN, THAT'S FINE.
BUT THE, THE POINT IS THAT AS A PLANNING BOARD, THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.
UH, WE, UH, UH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND FOR THE FUTURE.
NOW, IN TERMS OF THIS APPLICATION, ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS APPLICATION? IF IT'S NOT, THEN WE, WE WILL SCHEDULE THIS
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FOR A, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ON MAY 19TH.
SO, SO, UH, MS. GADO, WE WILL EMAIL YOU THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE AND THE INSTRUCTIONS, THE MAILING, AS WELL AS POSTING THE SIGN, UH, ON THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, ALONG COUNTY CENTER ROAD.
YOU'LL GET THAT, UH, LIKELY TOMORROW.
UH, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME TONIGHT.
UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.
THANK, THANK YOU EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
WE WILL GO INTO PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, AARON, COULD YOU AGAIN TAKE THE ROLL CALL? MAKE A ROLL CALL? SURE.
BE, UH, THE NEXT, BEFORE WE, THESE TWO PROPOSALS, I JUST WANNA REMIND THE BOARD THAT THESE TWO APPLICATIONS, ALTHOUGH SEPARATE, THEY ARE RELATED.
AND SO WE ARE TAKING THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS TOGETHER, AND WE WILL MAKE SEPARATE DECISIONS, BUT SEEING HOW THEY'RE INTERRELATED, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT ACTIONS WE TAKE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL, UH, UH, TWO APPLICATIONS.
WITH THAT SAID, COULD YOU INTRODUCE, UH, THE APPLI, UH, THE APPLICATIONS? YES.
SO, AS CHAIRPERSON, SIMON INDICATED, THE NEXT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE CASE NUMBER PB 1706, THE NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION, SUBDIVISION ARLEY ROAD, AND PB 21 DASH ZERO THREE.
THE MARIN SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT SEVEN 10 ARLEY ROAD, PO SCARSDALE LOCATED IN THE R 21 FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT.
THESE TWO PROJECTS WILL BE REVIEWED AS PART OF ONE COMBINED PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.
THE APPLICANT FOR PB 17 DASH ZERO SIX, THE NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION, SUBDIVISION SEEKS PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL PLANNING BOARD, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPROVAL, WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMIT APPROVAL AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, APPROVAL FOR PROPOSAL INVOLVING THE SUBDIVISION OF ONE EXISTING LOT INTO FOUR LOTS, THREE NEW RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND ONE LOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEW PRIVATE CUL-DE-SAC ROADWAY BUILT TO TOWN STANDARDS.
ACCESS TO EACH OF THE THREE RESIDENTIAL LOTS WOULD BE PROVIDED VIA THE NEWLY PROPOSED CUL-DE-SAC ROADWAY THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED OFF OF ARDSLEY ROAD.
THE APPLICANT FOR PB 21 DASH ZERO THREE MARIN SEEKS A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AND WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT FOR A PROPOSAL INVOLVING THE RE SUBDIVISION OF THREE EXISTING LOTS FOR THE PURPOSES OF ONE CONNECTING THE DRIVEWAY OF THE EXISTING RESIDENCE ON PARCEL ID.
8.390 DASH 2 7 5 DASH 9.1 TO A PROPOSED PRIVATE CUL-DE-SAC ROADWAY ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISION.
CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER PB 17 0 6 2, PROVIDING POTENTIAL FUTURE DRIVEWAY ACCESS FOR PARCEL ID NUMBER 8.390 DASH 2 7 5 DASH 9.2 TO THE ABOVE REFERENCED PRIVATE CUL-DE-SAC ROADWAY.
AND THREE, TO STRAIGHTEN THE EASTERLY PROPERTY LINE ASSOCIATED WITH PARCEL ID.
PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THESE MATTERS AT ITS APRIL 7TH, 2021 MEETING.
WE DO HAVE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVES HERE THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS OR THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE.
HOWEVER, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I DID WANNA NOTE THAT, UH, THIS AFTERNOON STAFF DID PREPARE, UM, SEEKER DETERMINATIONS, DRAFT SEEKER DETERMINATIONS FOR THE BOARD'S, UH, POTENTIAL CONSIDERATION.
AND THE REASON WHY I DID THAT IS BECAUSE, UM, THESE TWO PROJECTS DO INVOLVE SUBDIVISION APPROVALS, AND IT IS REQUIRED THAT A PUBLIC HEARING TAKE PLACE
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AFTER, UH, UH, THE SECRET DETERMINATION WHEN CONSIDERING SUBDIVISION APPROVALS.SO THE BOARD'S NOT UNDER ANY OBLIGATION TO ISSUE A SECRET DETERMINATION THIS EVENING, BUT IF THE BOARD FELT THAT IT WASN'T A POSITION, BEING THAT THE BOARD HAS CONSIDERED THIS PROJECT OVER THE COURSE OF A, A FAIRLY LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME, HAS WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT ON REFINING THE PROJECT, UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD HAD DRAFTS IN HANDS PRIOR TO MAKING ANY DETERMINATIONS.
SO WE LEAVE THAT UP TO THE BOARD.
I'M HAPPY TO WALK THE BOARD THROUGH THE DRAFT SEEKER, UM, DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PREPARED AND, AND EMAILED OUT EARLIER THIS EVENING OR EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, I SHOULD SAY, UM, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY.
UM, BUT KEEP IN MIND, IF THE BOARD OPENS THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, PRIOR TO MAKING THE SECRET DETERMINATION, YOU MUST ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A FUTURE DATE AND THEN MAKE THE SECRET DETERMINATION AHEAD OF THAT.
SO THE BOARD HAS EVERY RIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, IF IT WANTS TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC FIRST, UM, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR EACH OF THE PROJECTS IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THE SEEKER AHEAD OF TIME.
UH, WE CAN DO THAT NOW, AND I'M HAPPY TO WALK THE BOARD THROUGH THOSE.
JUST PROCEDURAL WISE, IF WE, YOU SAY WE CANNOT OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT IN ANY PHASE OF IT BEFORE THE SEEK A DETERMINATION.
YOU, THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS THAT YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AFTER THE SECRET DETERMINATION.
SO THE BOARD CAN ABSOLUTELY, AFTER THE SECRET OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
WE, WE'D HAVE TO DO THE SECRET RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE TO DO IT NOW, RIGHT NOW, OR RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING, MAKE A COMMITMENT TO ADJOURN IT TO A SECOND MEETING.
SO I'M NOT NO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S A THIRD OPTION.
YOU COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, AND THEN BEFORE WE CLOSE THE HEARING, MAKE THE SECRET DETERMINATION AS LONG AS WE NO, NO, THAT'S, IT HAS TO BE, IT WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE.
HAVE OF THE MEETING HAVE TO BE, HAVE TO BE AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING.
I I, I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THE SECRET NOW, AND, AND, AND IF THE BOARD IS COMFORTABLE MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT, WE'LL MAKE IT, BUT GO OVER THE SECRET DETERMINATION.
WE ACTUALLY SAID YOU, WE GOT IT, BUT WE DIDN'T GET IT TILL LATE THIS AFTERNOON.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH IT AND READ IT.
SO I THINK WE, YOU NEED TO GO OVER IT WITH THE BOARD NOW.
SO I WANT TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO, UH, A COUPLE OF ITEMS SPECIFICALLY.
THIS IS WITH RESPECT TO THE PB 1706, NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION, SUBDIVISION ARDSLEY ROAD.
ERIC, IF I COULD INTERRUPT FOR ONE SECOND AND SUGGEST IF YOU, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, IF YOU CAN SHARE THE SCREEN TO SHOW THE SECRA THAT MIGHT, UH, ADVANCE THIS.
I WILL SEE IF I'M ABLE TO PULL THAT UP.
BEAR WITH ME FOR A MOMENT, OR MAYBE MATT CAN DO IT.
JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR A MOMENT.
I'M GONNA FIND IT IN MY EMAIL.
UM, I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, SO FIRST OFF, THAT THE PROJECT QUALIFIES AS AN UNLISTED ACTION UNDER SEEKER, UM, AND THAT THE BOARD WOULD BE CONSIDERING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE FEW ITEMS I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ARE AS FOLLOWS.
FIRST, WE OUTLINED THE FACT THAT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS PROJECT AND THE PLANNING BOARD'S REVIEW OF IT, UM, MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.
INITIALLY, IF YOU RECALL, THIS WAS A PROPOSAL FOR A FOUR LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WITH PRIVATE CUL-DE-SAC ROADWAY.
THROUGHOUT THE DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, AND DUE TO THE PLANNING BOARD'S REVIEW, AS WELL AS CONCERNS ISSUED BY STAFF AND OTHER AGENCIES, THE APPLICANT AGREED TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO A THREE LOT SUBDIVISION, THREE LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
THERE IS A FOURTH LOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CUL-DE-SAC ROADWAY.
FURTHER, NUMBER TWO, THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE ON LOT ONE
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WAS SHIFTED TO THE SOUTH OR CLOSER TO THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHICH RESULTED IN A REDUCTION IN THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAY PROPOSED, AS WELL AS, UH, REDUCING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE.AND IT REDUCED THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE PROPOSED, INCLUDING DISTURBANCE TO REGULATED STEEP SLOPES.
THAT ALSO RESULTED IN A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF TREES PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
AND THAT CAME OUT OF SOME SITE VISITS THAT WERE CONDUCTED BY BOARD MEMBERS WHERE WE WALKED THE TOTAL LENGTH OF THAT DRIVEWAY AS IT HAD BEEN ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
AND FOLLOWING A MEETING AFTER THOSE SITE VISITS, THE BOARD MEMBERS BROUGHT THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE APPLICANT, AND THE APPLICANT WAS AGREEABLE TO SHORTEN THAT DISTANCE, THUS REDUCING STEEP SLOPE DISTURBANCE, UH, TREE REMOVALS AND REDUCING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE.
SO THAT WAS CERTAINLY AN IMPROVEMENT.
NUMBER THREE, UH, A PERVIOUS PAVER CENTER ISLAND OR PERVIOUS SURFACE CENTER ISLAND.
I'M ACTUALLY GONNA MODIFY THIS BASED ON A DISCUSSION I HAD WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE THIS AFTERNOON.
BUT A PERVIOUS SURFACE CENTER ISLAND WITH MOUNTABLE, CURBING AND PLANTINGS WAS ADDED TO THE PROPOSED CUL-DE-SAC IN ORDER TO REDUCE OVERALL IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE AT THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD.
AND NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT COORDINATED WITH A PROP, A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER, MR. MARIN, UH, PART OF CASE NUMBER PB 2103, UH, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ACCESS FROM TWO OF MR. MARIN'S LOTS TO THE PROPOSED CUL-DE-SAC ROADWAY, WHICH WILL RESULT IN ELIMINATION OF A LENGTHY SHARED DRIVEWAY, THUS REDUCING IMPERVIOUS SURFACES AND SUCH AREA WILL BE PLANTED WITH TREES AND SHRUBS.
THIS COORDINATION RESULTED IN THE NEED FOR A RE SUBDIVISION AND WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT APPROVAL THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD AS NOTED FOR THE MARIN LOTS, WHICH HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR UNDER CASE NUMBER PB 2103.
SO WE DID OUTLINE IN THIS NEG DECK, UM, THE SIGNIFICANT REVISIONS THAT WERE DONE AS A RESULT OF THE BOARD REVIEWING THIS PROJECT OVER THE LAST, UH, COUPLE OF YEARS ACTUALLY.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER ITEM I REALLY WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION WITHIN THIS DRAFT NEG DECK, UH, I SHOULD SAY TWO OTHER ITEMS ARE ON PAGES FOUR.
WE OUTLINED UNDER IMPACT ON NATURAL RESOURCES, THE FACT THAT WHILE THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING DIRECT DISTURBANCE TO AN ONSITE WETLAND, IT HAS PROPOSED A WETLAND MITIGATION PLAN, UM, WHICH WILL, WILL ENHANCE THE ONSITE WETLANDS, UM, THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE DISTURBED AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
THE APPLICANT'S COMPLIED WITH CHAPTER TWO 80 OF THE TOWN CODE WITH RESPECT TO ONSITE MITIGATION FOR WHEN A WETLANDS IS DIRECTLY IMPACTED.
AND THE BELIEF IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING THESE MITIGATION, THESE MITIGATIONS THAT ARE CARRIED OUT AFTER CONSTRUCTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IF IT IS APPROVED, THAT, UH, OVERALL THERE WOULD BE AN IMPROVED WETLANDS AND UPLANDS, UH, AREA IN THAT PORTION OF THE SITE.
LASTLY, UM, NUMBER 10, IMPACT ON FLOODING AND DRAINAGE.
WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY THAT THE APPLICANTS PROPOSED THE USE OF A SERIES OF ACCEPTED PRACTICES FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, AND I'LL CHANGE THAT TO MANAGEMENT, INCLUDING ONE, AN ASPHALT SURFACE FOR THE PROPOSED CUL-DE-SAC, BUT WITH STORM CRETE, WHICH IS A POROUS CONCRETE GUTTER ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, AND THE APPLICANT CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH US.
FURTHER, UH, AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT TODAY.
I ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE TOWN'S BUREAU OF ENGINEERING WHO'S SATISFIED WITH THIS LAYOUT.
TWO, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED PERVIOUS SURFACES AND MATERIALS OR MATERIALS WITHIN THE CENTER OF THE CUL-DE-SAC.
AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THEY'VE ALSO PROPOSED DRAIN INLET AS WELL AS A SUBSURFACE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY, UM, SO THAT THE APPLICANT'S COMPLYING WITH THE TOWN CODE REQUIREMENTS WITH RESPECT TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
AND, UM, I, THEY HAVE BEEN REVIEWED PRELIMINARILY BY THE TOWN'S BUREAU OF ENGINEERING, WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT OVER A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME TO ADDRESS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ON THE SITE.
UM, AS NOTED WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CONTROL PERMIT FROM THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING PRIOR TO THE SUBMISSION OF ANY BUILDING PERMIT.
WITH RESPECT TO THE, UM, TO THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT, THE APPLICANT, UH, WILL, HAS MENTIONED TO THE PLANNING BOARD THAT IT WILL BE
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REQUIRED TO OBTAIN STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CONTROL PERMITS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS.SO AT SUCH TIME, THE, AS WAS, UM, PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD, THE APPLICANT IS, WILL NOT BE BUILDING THESE LOTS.
SO, UM, THERE ISN'T A SPECIFIC STORMWATER DESIGN FOR THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS AS OF YET, BUT AS REQUIRED BY TOWN CODE AND AS WOULD BE CONDITIONED BY THE PLANNING BOARD IN ANY DECISION, THE APPLICANT OR ANY SUCCESSORS AND INTEREST WOULD BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CONTROL PERMIT PRIOR TO FILING FOR A BUILDING PERMIT FOR ANY OF THOSE LOTS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THOSE ITEMS TO YOUR ATTENTION THIS EVENING ON THIS PARTICULAR DRAFT NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
UM, I CAN BRING UP THE OTHER ONE.
THE OTHER ONE IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT LET ME BRING THAT UP FOR YOU.
WELL, AARON, LET'S GET THROUGH THIS ONE.
AND THEN YOU COULD DO THE INTRODUCTION TO THE SECOND ONE AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS.
SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE, UH, A SECRET DETERMINATION, UH, TONIGHT AND, AND, UH, AND, AND SO WE COULD MOVE FORWARD, UH, BASED UPON THE INFORMATION RECEIVED, UH, IN OUR, UH, RECEIVED TODAY AND THE EXPLANATION THAT WERE JUST GIVEN US, I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE COULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE A SECRET DETERMINATION IF ANY BOARD MEMBERS THINK OTHERWISE, PLEASE LET, UH, VOICE THAT OPINION.
IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE, ON THE SECRET DETERMINATION.
WITH THAT, NO, UH, REASON TO DELAY A SECRET DETERMINATION, I, WE HAVE TO TAKE, UM, UH, UH, TWO ACTIONS.
FIRST IS THE, UH, DECLARING THIS A UNLISTED ACTION.
DO WE HAVE SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THE NEXT ONE IS TO DECLARE A NECK DECK IN THIS APPLICATION.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
UM, SO THE NEXT THING TO DO IS PROCEED WITH, UH, THE MARIN, UM, NEG DECK, UH, AND FOR AARON TO PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN.
SO THIS IS A DRAFT NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR CASE NUMBER PB 21 DASH ZERO THREE MARIN SUBDIVISION, LOCATED AT SEVEN 10 LEY ROAD PO.
SCARSDALE, UH, AS WITH THE NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION SUBDIVISION, THIS PROPOSED ACTION QUALIFIES AS AN UNLISTED ACTION UNDER SEEKER, AND WE'VE PREPARED A DRAFT NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION.
UM, THIS ONE IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT WE DO OUTLINE THE IMPACTS ON LAND USE AND ZONING AND THE IMPACT ON LAND, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A BENEFIT TO THIS, TO THAT AREA BY, UM, REMOVING A LENGTHY PORTION OF MR. MARIN'S DRIVEWAY AND REPLACING THAT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE WITH TREES AND SHRUBS.
UM, SO THAT WILL BE AN OVERALL BENEFIT WITHIN THAT AREA.
WITH RESPECT TO LAND COVER, WE INDICATE THAT WITH RESPECT TO TRANSPORTATION, THAT UM, YOU KNOW, THE SITE IS IN A WELL-ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CONNECTING INTO A CUL-DE-SAC IS, THAT'S BUILT TO TOWN STANDARDS, IS PREFERABLE TO A LENGTHY SHARED DRIVEWAY WITH A SMALLER CURB CUT OPENING ONTO ARDSLEY ROAD.
AND WE DO NOTE THE FACT UNDER SECTION NINE THAT, UM, THE PROJECT DOES REQUIRE A WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT BECAUSE THE WETLAND ON THE SITE OF THE NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION PROJECT, THE 100 FOOT BUFFER EXTENDS ONTO THE MARIN SITE AND SPECIFICALLY INTO THE AREA WHERE, UH, MR. MARIN'S DRIVEWAY WOULD BE RELOCATED TO CONNECT INTO THE PRIVATE CUL-DE-SAC ROADWAY.
HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE DOWN SLOPE OF THE WETLAND.
THE WETLAND HAS A PROPOSED MITIGATION PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH IT AS PART OF THE NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION PROJECT.
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AND, UM, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THAT WETLAND IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT.AGAIN, WITH FLOODING AND DRAINAGE, WE IDENTIFY THE FACT THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A REDUCTION IN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE, WHICH IS A BENEFIT.
AND THAT'S REALLY IT WITH RESPECT TO THIS ONE.
SO WHAT I'M GOING, I'M NOT GONNA TAKE A VOTE ON THIS NOW.
WE'LL TAKE A VOTE WHEN IT'S, WHEN THAT APPLICATIONS ACTUALLY BEFORE US, BUT WE HAVE ALL THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, ACTUALLY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS AS A JOINT PUBLIC HEARING IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN SPEAK ON BOTH, UH, YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT VOTE NOW.
YEAH, I'LL MOVE IT AS AN UNLISTED ACTION.
AND, UH, THE NEXT VOTE WE HAVE TO TAKE IS DECLARE THIS, THE NEXT DECK.
SO IF WE THANK YOU, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE ACTUAL HEARING OF P B UH, 1706, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT SPEAKING ON YOUR PERSON.
SIMON, CAN YOU, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES.
AND HERE ON BEHALF OF BOTH MR. MARIN AND NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION, UM, TO KICK OFF TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING, I DO WANT TO, UH, AARON DID A GREAT JOB AS ALWAYS, OF GIVING A LOT OF BACKGROUND, PARTICULARLY IN THE NEX, BUT I DO WANNA GIVE THE PUBLIC A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY 'CAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE ON.
SO IF YOU'LL JUST BEAR WITH US FOR A FEW MINUTES, WE'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
I KNOW YOUR BOARD IS REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT.
UM, FIRST WITH ME TONIGHT IS JOHN MAN, WHO'S A REPRESENTATIVE FROM NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION.
I BELIEVE MR. ED MARIN IS ALSO ON THE CALL.
WE HAVE DAVE LOMBARDI FROM J M C, THE PROJECTS ENGINEER, AND I THINK KEVIN MACIO VECCHIO, WHO IS THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, IS ALSO ON THE CALL.
UM, SO WE ORIGINALLY, AS AARON SAID, THIS PROJECT CAME BEFORE YOUR BOARD IN 2017, AND WE HAD PROPOSED A SUBDIVISION THAT WOULD CREATE FOUR, UM, HOMES AND A SHARED ROADWAY.
UH, UPON INITIAL FEEDBACK FROM YOUR BOARD, THE PROJECT WAS REDUCED TO A THREE HOUSE SUBDIVISION.
UM, AND ALL OF THE ACCESS TO THOSE LOTS WERE FROM ARDSLEY ROAD.
UM, YOUR BOARD AND STAFF CONDUCTED TWO SIDEWALKS OF THE PROPERTY IN THE FALL OF 2019, AND BASED ON FEEDBACK, UM, WE MOVED THE THIRD HOUSE, AS AARON SAID, CLOSER TO THE OTHER TWO, WHICH DID A FEW THINGS.
IT IMPROVED FIRE AND EMERGENCY ACCESS, AND IT AVOIDED SIGNIFICANT DISTURBANCE TO STEEP SLOPES BORDERING ADJACENT NEIGHBORS BASED ON COMMENTS HEARD DURING THE SIDEWALKS AND REQUESTS FROM YOUR BOARD TO REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORS TO TRY TO GET, UH, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS TO COMBINE ACCESS DRIVEWAYS TO AVOID CURB CUTS ON ARDSLEY ROAD.
WE ENTERED INTO LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. MARIN, AS WELL AS, UM, SEVERAL OTHER OWNERS, UM, PROPERTIES LOCATED BOTH TO THE EAST AND ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED TO THE WEST.
I THINK SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORS ARE ON THE CALL TONIGHT.
UM, MR. MARIN WAS THE ONLY NEIGHBOR WHO WANTED TO JOIN IN ON THE SHARED DRIVEWAY.
UH, WE SUBMIT HE'S, HE'S ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT NEIGHBORS, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE NOT MORE IMPORTANT, UM, FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAN HIS DRIVEWAY WAS THE LENGTHIEST.
UM, SO IT RESULTED IN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE AND IS ALLOWING FOR SIGNIFICANT PLANTINGS WITHIN THE AREA THAT HIS CURRENT DRIVEWAY IS LOCATED.
UM, HIS PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY SUBDIVIDED INTO THREE LOTS.
CURRENTLY ONLY ONE OF THE LOTS IS DEVELOPED WITH HIS HOME.
UM, SO HIS APPLICATION MAKES SOME SLIGHT LOT LINE ADJUSTMENTS, MAINLY IN ORDER TO MEET THE FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT ALONG THE NEW SHARED DRIVEWAY.
UM, ONE THING ERIN DIDN'T TOUCH ON, WHICH I WANNA JUST BRIEFLY SPEAK TO, WE HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE TOWN'S CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON BOTH APPLICATIONS AND RECEIVED POSITIVE REFERRALS.
UM, MR. MARIN'S APPLICATION RESULTS IN A DISTURBANCE TO THE 100 WET, UH, 100 FOOT WETLAND BUFFER WHILE NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION'S APPLICATION RESULTS IN BOTH DIRECT AND INDIRECT BUFFER IMPACTS.
UM, I SAY IT THIS WAY BECAUSE THE WETLAND NARRATIVE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO YOUR BOARD AND THE
I THINK SEVERAL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO
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CAME TO THE SIDEWALKS WERE ABLE TO SEE THIS FOR THEMSELVES.UM, AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE WETLAND HAS MINIMAL FUNCTIONAL VALUE, THE PROJECT WILL PROPOSE TO DO MANY WETLAND MITIGATION, PLANTINGS MADE OF NATIVE SPECIES THAT WE SUBMIT WILL MITIGATE THE IMPACTS AND ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE WETLAND.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE TALKED ABOUT OUR WILLINGNESS, UM, SPECIFICALLY WE HAD LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE C A C ABOUT THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO GRANT THE TOWN, UM, AN EASEMENT OVER THE WETLAND BUFFER, OR I'M SORRY, OVER THE, THE WETLAND CONSERVATION AREA ITSELF.
SO IN THE EVENT, UM, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY FAILS TO MAINTAIN THE MEDIATION MEASURES, THE TOWN HAS THE ABILITY TO COME ON AND DO THAT ITSELF AND THEN CHARGE THE, THE H O A, IT WOULD BE FOR THE COST.
UM, ONE OTHER THING IS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, UM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW ENGINEERING COMMENTS THAT DAVE IS WORKING THROUGH WITH THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING.
UM, WE'VE RESPONDED TO ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS.
UH, MOST RECENTLY, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER'S COMMENTS ABOUT SITE LINE DISTANCE IN PARTICULAR.
UM, HIS, HIS ONLY COMMENT WAS REALLY THAT WE CUT SOME OF THE SHRUBS BACK THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE TOWN'S RIGHT OF WAY.
DAVE CAN SPEAK MORE TO THIS, BUT THE APPLICANT, AS LONG AS THE TOWN ALLOWS THE, THE APPLICANT WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY MORE THAN WILLING TO CUT BACK THE SHRUBS TO IMPROVE THE SITE LINE DISTANCE.
UM, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO DAVE WHO'S GOING TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TREE SURVEY THAT WE DID, UM, THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING AND SOME OF THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS.
AND THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR BOARDS AND ALSO THE PUBLIC'S QUESTIONS.
I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH J M C.
I'D JUST LIKE TO START OUT, UH, SAY THAT WE'VE ALSO MET WITH THE, THE ARLEY FIRE DEPARTMENT ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS, ONCE IN PERSON AND ONCE IN A ZOOM MEETING.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT MEETING, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS WE WIDENED THE DRIVEWAY TO THE LOT ONE HOME, AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT FEET TO ALLOW FIRE DEPARTMENT APPARATUS VEHICLES TO GET WITHIN THE REQUIRED DISTANCE OF THE BACK CORNER OF THE HOUSE.
HERE THE CUL-DE-SAC IS 90, HAS A DIAMETER OF 96 FEET, WHICH IS THE STATE REQUIREMENT.
AND THE OTHER REQUEST WAS THAT WE PLACED A FIRE HYDRANT AT THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHICH WE HAVE ALSO DONE SHOWN RIGHT HERE.
WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, AN EXTENSION OF THE PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY FROM SUEZ UP THE PRIVATE ROADWAY TO SERVE THE THREE PROPOSED HOMES, AS WELL AS, UH, PROVIDE A SERVICE TO MR. MARIN'S HOUSE AND IN A POTENTIAL FUTURE HOME, UM, IN THE ADJACENT SUBDIVIDED LOT.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE LAYOUT.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, LOT 9.1 AND 9.2 ARE TWO FLAG LOTS THAT SHARE A DRIVEWAY UP TO R Z ROAD HERE.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO ABANDON THIS PROPERTY LINE HERE, AND THIS WOULD BE THE NEW PROPOSED PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN THOSE TWO LOTS.
SO THAT'S THE ONE CHANGE TO THE, THIS SUBDIVISION.
AND THE OTHER CHANGE IS BETWEEN THE THREE LOTS.
THIS IS THE EXISTING LOT LINE, WHICH WAS IN THAT SHAPE BECAUSE WHEN THE SUBDIVISION WAS APPROVED, UM, THESE LOTS, UM, HAD SEPTIC SYSTEMS WITH SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
THERE ARE SEWER SERVICES TO EACH OF THESE LOTS NOW, SO THAT IS NO LONGER NEEDED.
SO MR. MARIN, UH, WOULD REQUESTED THAT WE STRAIGHTEN THIS COMMON LOT LINE BETWEEN THE THREE LOTS.
AND LET'S SEE, THIS IS OUR PROPOSED GRADING PLAN.
WE'VE PROPOSED RETAINING WALLS BEHIND THE HOUSES AND THE DRIVEWAYS TO REDUCE
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THE IMPACTS TO THE STEEP SLOPES AND GRADING.AND AS REQUESTED BY THE BOARD, WE DID A, UH, CROSS SECTION THROUGH ONE OF THE HOMES.
THIS IS OUR PROPOSED LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED PRIVATE ROADWAY WHERE WE HAVE STREET TREES ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD AROUND THE CUL-DE-SAC, A CENTER ISLAND WITH THE TREE AND SHRUBS AND TREES AND SHRUBS IN THE LOCATION OF MR. MARIN'S DRIVEWAY HERE.
AND WE HAVE ALSO PREPARED, UH, LET ME JUST OPEN THAT UP.
A CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR LOT THREE WITH A LIST OF TREES AND SHRUBS AND PERENNIALS THAT'LL BE PLANTED.
AND, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO PLANT 139 TREES AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
UM, WE HAD SUEZ, WHO WAS THE WATER PROVIDER IN THE AREA, PERFORM AHY, UH, HYDRANT FLOW TEST ON THE EIGHT INCH MAIN IN RZ ROAD AND DETERMINED THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE PRESSURE AND FLOW TO SERVE THE THREE HOMES, UH, FOR DOMESTIC AND FIRE PURPOSES.
AND IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
UH, WHAT THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED IS THAT WE PRESENT BOTH APPLICATIONS.
SO WHEN THE PUBLIC COME IN OR COME UP TO SPEAK, THEY COULD SPEAK ON ONE OR BOTH OF THE APPLICATIONS AS OPPOSED TO SPEAKING AT ONE, SITTING DOWN AND OH, WELL, GOING OFF SCREEN AND COMING BACK.
SO IF THERE, UH, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THIS APPLICATION, THEN, UH, UH, PLEASE, UH, ASK TO BE IDENTIFIED.
I, I'D LIKE TO GET ONE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
YOU'RE BRINGING A NEW SEWER AND WATER LINES INTO THOSE THREE PROPERTIES NOW.
THEY WILL GO ACROSS, UH, UH, MR. MARIN'S LOT AND THE PROPOSED LOT.
AND SO THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY SO DESIRE TO TAP IN THROUGH THAT WALL, UH, SEWER LINE, UH, UM, AND ABANDON THEIR, UH, SEPTIC SYSTEM.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM MR. MARIN, THAT EACH OF THESE LOTS ALREADY HAS A SERVICE GOING TO THE LOTS, BUT IF IT'S MORE CONVENIENT, SAY FOR LOT 9.2 TO CONNECT TO THE SEWER HERE, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT
WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE BRINGING GAS AND ELECTRIC UP THE PRIVATE ROADWAY, WHICH COULD ALSO SERVE, UM, EACH OF THE TWO LOTS.
BUT I THOUGHT YOU, YOU, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SEPTIC.
THAT'S WHY I WAS, YEAH, WHEN THIS SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, IT WAS ONLY SEPTIC.
UH, ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE, UH, UH, MR. MARIN'S UH, APPLICATION? IF NOT, THEN COULD YOU GO THROUGH MR. MARIN'S APPLICATION? SURE.
AND THEN, AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR MR. MARIN'S PROPERTY.
THIS IS GONNA ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO THIS IS MR. MARIN'S CURRENT PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN
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LOTS 9.1 AND 9.2.AND THEN HERE THERE'S THE SHARED DRIVEWAY WITH THE TWO FLAG LOTS OUT TO ARZI ROAD.
AND THIS IS THE ALIGNMENT OF THE CURRENT LOT LINE BETWEEN THE THREE LOTS BACK HERE.
THIS LOT LINE HERE IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
THIS LOT LINE RIGHT HERE BETWEEN LOTS 9.1 AND 9.2 IS PROPOSED TO PROVIDE THE ACCESS AND THE FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR THESE TWO LOTS TO THE PROPOSED ROADWAY.
AND AS I DISCUSSED EARLIER ON LOT THREE, UM, THIS COMMON LOT LINE BETWEEN THE THREE LOTS IS PROPOSED TO BE STRAIGHTENED.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED AREAS OF EACH OF THESE LOTS, AND THEY'RE ALL IN EXCESS OF 20,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED.
AND THIS AREA WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS BEING REMOVED WILL REMAIN PART OF MR. MARIN'S LOT, 9.1.
SO THAT'S THE BEFORE YOU CAN SHOW THE AFTER NOW.
SO THE AFTER, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY JUST MORE FAINT GRAY LINES, MR. OH, OKAY.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE.
BUT, UM, DAVE, IF YOU JUST WANNA MAYBE RUN YOUR CURSOR AGAIN OVER THE, THE LIGHTER GRAY LINE.
SO THIS IS A PROPOSED LOT LINE THAT WILL CONNECT TO THE EXISTING LOT LINE HERE, AND THEY CONTINUE TO RUN BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS, WHICH WILL END HERE.
AND THEN THIS LINE HERE WILL BE THE STRAIGHT LINE ACROSS.
THE STRAIGHT LINE WILL BETWEEN LOTS 9.2 AND 9.3, AND 9.1 AND 9.3.
AND AS PART OF THE OR, UM, YOUR SUBDIVISION, UH, MR. MARIN'S, UH, DRIVE, WELL DRIVEWAY WILL BE REALIGNED AND WE'LL HAVE A, A BACKUP AREA THAT CONFORMS TO THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS FOR DRIVEWAYS, BUT SHOULDN'T WE'LL PROVIDE A CURB CUT THAT WILL GO TO THE PROPERTY LINE OF LOT 9.2 FOR FUTURE CONNECTION.
BUT IS IT, THERE SHOULD BE IN YOUR FILE THERE AND ON RECORD THE, UH, FINISH, UH, LOT LINE.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR.
YOU COULD SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT WHAT IS, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, DAVE, DO YOU HAVE ONE JUST WITH THE LIGHT GRAY LINES OR DO YOU ONLY HAVE THIS ONE THAT HAS BOTH? UH, WE ONLY HAVE THIS ONE THAT SHOWS BOTH.
I COULD TRACE IT THOUGH, IF THIS WORKS.
NO, I DON'T, DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA WORK.
THEREFORE, IT'S HANDY YOU JUST TO MAKE IT.
THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE PUBLIC.
I MEAN, THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SEEN THIS SEVERAL TIMES.
I THOUGHT IT'D BE, JUST BE HELPFUL TO THE PUBLIC TO SEE IT.
THIS IS A PROPOSED LOT LINE HERE THAT CONNECTS TO THE EXISTING, FOLLOWS THE EXISTING LOT LINE TO THIS POINT RIGHT HERE.
SO ESSENTIALLY THIS LOT LINE WILL MOVE TO HERE AND THIS LOT LINE WILL MOVE TO HERE.
AND THIS WILL REMAIN IN THE SAME LOCATION HERE.
AND THEN THIS, FROM THIS POINT TO HERE, ALL THE WAY OUT WILL BE REMOVED AND THIS WILL REMAIN ALL PART OF MR. MARIN'S LOT, 9.1.
UH, ARE THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, UH, UH, FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE I ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? IF NOT, THEN ANYONE, UH, THEN AARON, COULD YOU, UH, UH, ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK, PLEASE? SURE.
SO IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF, IF PARTICIPANTS RAISE THEIR HAND, I SEE THAT A COUPLE ALREADY HAVE.
UM, IF MR. LOMBARDI, IF YOU COULD TAKE DOWN THE SHARE SCREEN, THAT'D BE GREAT.
IF WE NEED TO PUT IT, IF WE NEED TO PUT IT BACK UP, WE CERTAINLY WILL.
I, I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE TO THE PUBLIC THEY CAN SPEAK ON EITHER PROJECT BECAUSE THEY'RE INTERRELATED.
HEY, HOW YOU DOING? UM, DANIEL, I'M A NEIGHBOR THAT'S, UH, RIGHT OVER
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6, 5, 6.UM, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF TAKING OUR FEEDBACK.
KATE, I APPRECIATED YOU DAVID.
UH, YOU GUYS TOOK OUR FEEDBACK FROM WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING, SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
I GUESS MY BIGGEST QUESTION NOW IS WITH RESPECT TO THE WETLANDS, IT SOUNDS LIKE, AND I JUST WANNA GET CONFIRMATION OF THIS, THAT THE IMPACT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A NET POSITIVE.
AND IF MAINTENANCE IS NOT PERFORMED CORRECTLY TO ALLOW FOR THAT NET POSITIVE, THEN THE TOWNSHIP HAS THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT, AND THEN GO AHEAD AND ALLOCATE THE COST, NOT BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS, BUT TO, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE MR. MORAN SOUNDS LIKE OR, OR THAT WAY.
AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE IS HOW ARE YOU EVALUATING TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IT'S EVEN BEING DONE CORRECTLY TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU NEED TO STEP IN TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT? UH, THOSE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS, CHAIRPERSON.
SIMON, DO YOU WANT US TO ANSWER? WELL, OKAY.
WHAT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE NOTE OF THE QUESTIONS, UH, LET EVERYONE ASK THEIR QUESTIONS, AND THEN AT THE END YOU ANSWER EACH OF THE QUESTIONS.
I THINK IT'LL BE JUST MORE EFFICIENT THAT WAY.
SO WE HAVE, UH, MR. KENNETH STAN, WHO'S, UH, REQUESTED TO SPEAK, NOT.
I PRESENTLY AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, ARDSLEY SPRINGBROOK CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
AND YOU KNOW, DAVID KNEW DAVID FRIEDAN, HUGH SCHWARTZ KNOW ME FROM THE ARLEY, CHASE AND ARLEY PRESERVE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, I HAVE S SEVERAL CONCERNS, BUT FIRST I WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS LAST MEETING WAS PROPERLY, UH, NOTIFIED THE PUBLIC, BUT THE PRIOR MEETINGS WERE LACKING, UH, FROM THE COMMITMENT OF THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO, TO LET US KNOW IF I DIDN'T ACCIDENTALLY SEE THIS LISTED BACK IN MARCH, WAY BACK IN MARCH OR FEBRUARY, UH, I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT.
AND I'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN IT SINCE, UH, THAT SAID, I'LL MOVE ON.
BUT THAT WAS A COMMITMENT OF THE TOWN THAT HAS NOT BEEN FULFILLED BY THE PLANNING BOARD.
UH, I HAVE ISSUES WITH THE TRAFFIC AND SIGHT LINES.
I, UH, WE, WE HAD A 15 YEAR HOLDUP ON THE ARLEY CHASE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND DUE TO THE, UH, EMERGENCY EXIT THAT IS ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS NEW, UM, ROAD, AND I'M CALLING IT A ROAD, NOT A DRIVEWAY, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE STATE CONSIDERS A ROAD THAT HAS TWO LANES, ONE GOING IN AND ONE GOING OUT WHERE EAST, WEST OR NORTH SOUTH, UH, FOR TRAFFIC IS A ROAD AND NOT A DRIVEWAY.
DRIVEWAY ONLY ALLOWS FOR ONE AND A HALF CARS.
A ROAD ALLOWS FOR TWO CARS GOING BY EACH OTHER AT THE SAME TIME, UH, EVEN WITH THE MEDIAN.
AND I BELIEVE HARDLEY ROAD IS A STATE ROAD, AND THEREFORE THE STATE D O T NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE STATES, UH, WITH THE SIGHT LINES.
UH, THEY, THEY'RE OUT OF POUGHKEEPSIE.
I'M NOT SURE WHO THE GENTLEMAN IS THAT'S ON BOARD, UH, TONIGHT FROM, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND, UH, WHERE HE'S FROM.
BUT THERE'S SOME CONCERN ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S PART ABOUT THE SIGHT, SIGHT LINE, CARS TURNING IN AND OUT OF THAT, UH, ROAD.
UH, I HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS WITH THE, UH, FOLLOW THROUGH OF THE TOWN AND, AND THE PLANNING BOARD WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE EMERGENCY ENTRANCE EXIT AT THE, UH, LEY CHASE FACILITY, IT'S DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE ROAD.
IT'S BEEN IN TERRIBLE SHAPE FOR FIVE YEARS.
THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT UNLESS I CONTINUALLY HARASS THEM.
THE FIVE THREE PONDS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, PUT IN TO HANDLE THE, UH, WATER RUNOFF, UH, AND SEWAGE, UH, NOT THE SEWAGE, BUT THE RUNOFF AND MAINTAIN THE STORM WATER, THEY'RE OVERGROWN.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINED.
THE MINNOWS HAVEN'T BEEN THERE.
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AND COMPLAINED.THE TOWN HASN'T GONE IN AND MITIGATED IT.
THE TOWN HAS NOT GONE IN AND BILLED IT BACK TO THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR EITHER THE EMERGENCY ENTRANCE OR EXIT.
WE'RE VERY CONCERNED THAT THE SAME PLAN IS BEING PUT IN PLACE FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT MAINTAIN IT TO THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT ARE BEING SET UP IF AND WHEN THE PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
UM, VERY, VERY WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
AND ALSO THE FACT THAT, UH, WITH THE MARIN, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, WE, UH, AGAIN, HE HAS THE RIGHT TO, TO RE REDO HIS LAND AND SET UP THE LOTS HOWEVER HE WANTS.
BUT I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME DOWN THE ROAD, WHETHER IT'S HIM OR HIS FAMILY, OR WHOEVER HE SELLS IT TO, THERE, THERE COULD BE THREE HOUSES AND ALL THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS WILL BE GOING DOWN THAT NEW CUL-DE-SAC ROAD.
AND YOU HAVEN'T ELIMINATED ANY CURB CUTS.
YOU'RE ADDING A CURB CUT, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THE ONLY DRAIN ON THAT AREA FROM 6 54 AND 6 56 THAT COULD CATCH WATER IS BEING BLOCKED BY A CURB THAT WAS PUT IN WHEN THE TOLL BROTHERS RESURFACED AND, AND CURBED THE ROAD.
SO NO WATER GOES INTO THAT DRAIN, AND NO WATER DRAINS DOWN INTO IT FROM THE GULLIES FOR THAT STORM WATER OR THE NEW DRIVEWAY OR THE NEW ROAD THAT'S GOING IN.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, UH, THREE HOUSES, FOUR HOUSES COULD TURN INTO SIX HOUSES.
UH, SIX HOUSES COULD TURN INTO 12 CARS, 15 CARS IF THERE'S KIDS, UH, AS WHEN WE HAVE THREE SONS.
SO AT ONE POINT IN TIME, WE HAD FOUR CARS IN OUR DRIVEWAY WITH FIVE PEOPLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, IT, IT COULD BE A BIG TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
THE CURB CUTS WEREN'T CHANGED.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE, THREE ENTRANCES WITHIN A HUNDRED YARDS OF EACH OTHER.
ONE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY AT SOME POINT IN TIME BE HANDLING TRAFFIC FOR SIX HOUSES.
IT WILL BE HANDLING IT FOR FOUR.
BASICALLY IT'S ONLY THREE BECAUSE MARIN'S HOUSE IS IN THAT DUAL 7 10, 7 14 DRIVEWAY.
NOW ALSO, WHEN THIS PROJECT IS DONE, THEY NEED TO, AND THE TOWN SHOULD LOOK INTO HAVING THE, UH, ROAD FIXED, AS I TALKED WITH AARON AND, AND TOLD HIM TO SPEAK WITH MARTINO FROM THE P D P W.
UH, THE ROAD IS NOT PROPERLY CROWNED, AND THE WATER RUNS TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND NOT TO THE CURB AND NOT INTO THE STORM DRAINS.
IT CREATES AN ICING PROBLEM IN THE FALL AND WINTER, UH, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT WHEN WATER TURNS MORE TO ICE.
AND THAT IS A DANGEROUS CORNER GOING INTO A VERY DANGEROUS STOPLIGHT INTERSECTION NOW.
AND THEY SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT HOW DURING RUSH HOUR MORNING SCHOOLS AND AFTER, UH, TWO 30 TO THREE 30, WHEN SCHOOL IS LET OUT AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THE, UH, TRAFFIC BACKS UP.
SOMETIMES, NOT ALL THE TIME, BUT SOMETIMES PAST 6 56 GOING UP TOWARDS 6 48 AND, AND ON, ON, ON THE NORTH SIDE AND 7 0 5 OR 7 0 1 ON THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE THE, THE LIGHT IS RED.
THERE'S A LINE OF CARS THAT'S BACKED UP WHERE THAT ENTERS, WHERE THAT NEW ROAD IS GOING IN THAT NEW ROAD.
YOU HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS, MR. SIGN, IF I MAY INTERRUPT YOU FOR A MINUTE, I'LL STOP.
BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND.
THE LAST ONE WAS THE, THE CROWN ON THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE FIXED BECAUSE THE WATER DOESN'T RUN THE RIGHT WAY.
AND, AND I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FINISH WHAT I SAID IN TERMS OF TIMING.
WE DO NOT HAVE A, A A OFFICIAL LIMIT ON HOW LONG A PERSON CAN SPEAK, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TRY TO BE AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE, NOT TO REPEAT YOURSELF.
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COULD GET ALL THE POINTS THAT YOU WANNA MAKE IN, AND WE STILL HAVE TIME TO ALLOW EVERYONE TO SPEAK.MR. BOWDEN JUST INDICATED THAT, UH, YOU WILL NOT BE SPEAKING ON THIS ONE.
WE HAVE MR. AND MRS. KIM, WE DECIDED TO WITHDRAW OUR QUESTION.
UM, AND WE HAVE MR. FARRIS THANK YOU TO THE BOARD.
I LIVE AT 1 79 SPRAIN ROAD, AND MY PROPERTY, UM, HAS THE, I, IT APPEARS THAT IT'S THE LOT, NUMBER ONE BACKING UP TO IT.
UM, I HAVE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS, AND, UM, AS MR I GUESS STA SAID, UM, THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN OF THE PROPOSAL, UM, OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH DIRECTLY IMPINGES UPON MY PROPERTY.
MY PROPERTY HAS A, UH, UH, A STEEP SLOPE UP TO THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S A FLATTENING, AND THEN THERE'S A STEEP SLOPE BEHIND MY PROPERTY THAT BECOMES AN EXTREMELY STEEP SLOPE UP ABOVE THE PROPERTY, GOING BACK TOWARD THE POWER LINES TO THE, UH, TO THE EAST.
I'M CONCERNED THAT ANY IMPINGEMENT UPON THAT EXTREMELY, UH, STEEP SLOPE WILL BRING ADDITIONAL WATER DOWN INTO MY PROPERTY.
I ALREADY HAVE A NUMBER OF DRAINS ALL AROUND MY PROPERTY, WHICH HAVE HAD TO BE MODIFIED OVER THE YEARS AS WATER TABLE SHIFT.
UM, AND NOT ONLY FROM FOR MY PROPERTY, BUT FOR THE PROPERTIES AROUND.
UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW, UH, THAT WOULD BE MITIGATED OR IMPROVED.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY, UH, DEEP CONCERN OF MINE.
SECOND CONCERN IS REGARD TO, UH, FLORA AND FAUNA IN THE AREA.
I ALREADY HAVE A, A VIRTUAL ZOO IN MY BACKYARD CONSISTING OF DEER, COYOTE, UM, TURKEYS, OTHER ANIMALS.
MY CONCERN IS THE DISPLACEMENT OF THESE OTHER, UH, ANIMALS FROM THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND POTENTIALLY FORCING THOSE ANIMALS DOWN, NOT ONLY IN INTO MY YARD TO THE ADJACENT YARDS.
UM, THEY ALREADY COME DOWN AND, AND TEAR UP ALL OF OUR, OUR TREES AS IT IS.
THE OTHER THING THAT I'M, UH, EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE TREE INTEGRITY BEHIND THE HOUSE.
AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE A EXTREMELY STEEP SLOPE WITH, UH, MATURE LARGE TREES AND DISRUPTION POSTERIOR TO THAT ON THE EAST SIDE.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THAT WOULD THEN ALSO DISRUPT THE TREE LINE BEHIND MY PROPERTY, POTENTIALLY FORCING THOSE TREES TO BE, UM, COMPROMISED AND COMING DOWN INTO OUR PROPERTY OR DISRUPTING THE ROOTS AND KILLING OFF SOME OF THOSE OTHER TREES AS WELL.
THERE WAS MENTION THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE RETAINING WALLS BEHIND THE PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THE WATER DRAIN OFF, OFF ON ALL SIDES OF THE PROPERTY.
WHY THAT, THAT WOULD THEN NOT DIRECT WATER AROUND AND BACK DOWN THE HILL OF THE EXTREMELY STEEP, UH, STEEP SLOPE BEHIND MY PROPERTY.
I WOULD ALSO HAVE ONE REQUEST, UM, IF THIS PROJECT DOES GO THROUGH, IS THAT, UM, WE DO NOT HAVE DIRECT WATER ACCESS.
WE ARE KIND OF IN THE WATERSHED AREA BETWEEN THE, THE TWO DISTRICTS.
I WOULD REQUEST THAT IF THE PROJECT DOES GO THROUGH THAT A LINE, UH, BE DIRECTED TOWARDS MY PROPERTY SO THAT WE COULD, UH, EVENTUALLY TAP INTO THAT FOR, UH, DIRECT, UM, PUBLIC ACCESS TO WATER.
WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT I MISSED THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON EITHER OF THESE APPLICATIONS? I THINK I
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GOT EVERYONE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.IF THERE'S NO OTHER, UH, SPEAKERS FROM THE PUBLIC, I ASK THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND TO ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS, UH, UH, UH, WAS ASKED BY RESIDENTS.
UM, I WILL TRY TO GET ALL OF THEM, BUT IF I MISS ANYTHING, PLEASE, UM, IF THEY WERE YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE SPEAK UP AND WE'LL ANSWER THEM.
UM, FIRST, MR. RIVERA, YOUR FIRST QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE WETLAND.
AND IT, YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT THAT THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT IT WILL ACTUALLY BE A NET ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, A NET ENVIRONMENTAL POSITIVE.
UM, BECAUSE THE WETLAND IS LOW FUNCTIONING CURRENTLY, UM, OUR WETLANDS CONSULTANT EXPLAINED IN DETAIL TO THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT THE PLANTINGS PROPOSED WILL ACTUALLY HELP THIS WETLAND.
UM, YOU ALSO HAD ASKED IF MAINTENANCE IS NOT PROPERLY PERFORMED, WILL THE TOWN HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME ON AND MAINTAIN AND THEN ALLOCATE THE COST TO THE H O A? THE ANSWER IS YES, WE HAVE COMMITTED AS A CONDITION TO APPROVAL TO, UM, DRAFT AND FILE AN EASEMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW THE TOWN TO DO SO.
I DO JUST WANNA POINT OUT, UM, AND I, I WISH OUR, OUR WETLANDS CONSULTANT WAS HERE, BUT, UM, BETH SPECIFICALLY CHOSE VERY LOW MAINTENANCE PLANTINGS FOR THIS AREA.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE WILL BE MINIMAL, HOPEFULLY FOR THE OWNER.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'LL MAKE EXPENSES LESS GOING FORWARD.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
AND THEN HOW OR HOW WILL THE TOWN KNOW IF THE MITIGATIONS ARE BEING DONE? UM, AARON, I MIGHT DEFER TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, BUT I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT IS DURING CONSTRUCTION, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR A BUILDING PERMIT AND THEN TO EVENTUALLY GET A CO, UH, THE TOWN WILL HAVE TO MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANS ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BUILT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLANS.
SO I THINK THAT THAT WILL GUARANTEE THAT THE TOWN KNOWS THE PLANTINGS ARE DONE.
THAT THAT'S ONE WAY IN WHICH, SO THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO CERTIFY TO THE TOWN AND THE TOWN WOULD CONDUCT AN INSPECTION OR INSPECTION TO VERIFY THAT ALL PLANT MATERIAL AND MITIGATION WORK HAS BEEN, UH, PROVIDED IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE APPROVED PLAN.
IF THE PROJECT WERE APPROVED FURTHER, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD AS PART OF A WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT, UH, WHEN THERE'S DIRECT DISTURBANCE TO A WETLAND, WE'LL TYPICALLY HAVE A MAINTENANCE AND MONITORING PERIOD ESTABLISHED, AND THAT IS ENVISIONED WITH THIS PROJECT.
UH, THE BOARD TYPICALLY ON A PROJECT OF, OF THIS CALIBER WOULD, UM, INSTITUTE A THREE OR FIVE YEAR MAINTENANCE PLAN, UM, WHICH WOULD BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY WITH TOWN STAFF AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PROJECT TEAM, THE APPLICANT.
AND IF THE MITIGATION WASN'T LIVING UP TO THE STANDARDS, THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BRING IT BACK UP TO STANDARD, WHETHER IT'S REPLACING THE PLANT MATERIAL OR, UM, DOING ANY OTHER WORK IN CONNECTION WITH THAT MITIGATION.
UM, AFTER THAT PERIOD OF TIME, IT'S ENVISIONED THAT THE PLANT MATERIAL WOULD HAVE BEEN WELL ESTABLISHED BY THEN, AND THEN THERE COULD BE POTENTIALLY, UM, EVERY OTHER YEAR, UH, FOLLOW UP INSPECTION ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE MITIGATION ACTIVITIES ARE BEING COMPLIED WITH.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE ENVISION AND THAT'S LAID OUT IN OUR CODE, AND THAT'S STANDARD FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO CONDITION.
I THINK THAT ALSO ANSWERS ONE OF MR, UM, I'M SORRY, IT'S STAN OR STAN.
UM, HIS SECOND QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH FOLLOW THROUGH OF THE TOWN WITH THE H O A AND I THINK THAT SORT OF ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.
HIS, HIS FIRST QUESTION WAS ABOUT TRAFFIC, UM, AND SITE.
WELL, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, UH, UH, SURE.
SEE HOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE RESPONDING TO MR. STAN.
UH, I, I THINK HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE AFTER, YOU KNOW, THE THREE OR FIVE YEARS.
UH, HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY? BECAUSE HE'S INDICATING, UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT FOR MYSELF, BUT HE'S INDICATING THAT THE PROPERTY ACROSS FROM HIM HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.
AND SO THAT'S THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR THAT MAYBE FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
SO I, IF I'M, I THINK THAT WAS, UH, HIS CONCERN.
UM, AND I, I GUESS MY ANSWER TO THAT IS, AARON, I WOULD THINK THAT THE TOWN, UM, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TO ANOTHER PROJECT THAT, THAT I DON'T WORK ON, BUT I, I WOULD THINK THE TOWN WOULD GO OUT AND INSPECT, UM, IF, IF A NEIGHBOR HAD AN ISSUE OR SAW AN ISSUE WITH MAINTENANCE.
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SO YES, SO, AND FURTHER, THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED, UM, AN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE MANUAL THAT GETS PROVIDED IN CONNECTION WITH THE STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN THAT COVERS DRAINAGE FACILITIES AND, UM, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITIES.AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ONGOING.
THERE ARE POST-CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES THAT NEED TO BE COMPLIED WITH.
THERE'S REPORTING DONE BY THE APPLICANT, AND THERE'S THE ABILITY FOR INSPECTIONS BY THE TOWN AND MAN MANDATING OF, UM, FIXES IF THERE ARE ISSUES.
SO THAT'S LAID OUT IN A MANUAL THAT GETS SUBMITTED, UH, TO OUR BUREAU OF ENGINEERING AND IS HANDLED THROUGH OUR BUREAU OF ENGINEERING.
AARON, IT'S KEN STAN, JUST TO FOLLOW UP REAL QUICK, 10 SECONDS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS PERFECT.
I CAN NEVER GET THE REPORTS FROM THE TOWN END OF SUBJECT.
I'LL DEAL WITH IT LATER AFTER THIS.
UM, UH, THE FIRST QUESTION THAT HE HAD WAS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SIGHT LINE ISSUES.
UM, AS I SAID, THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER DID REVIEW THE PROPOSALS BOTH THE MARIN AND THE NATIONAL ROAD SAFETY FOUNDATION APPLICATIONS, AND HE DID MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT, AND ALTHOUGH THE SITE LINE WAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS, HE DID SAY IT COULD BE IMPROVED SLIGHTLY BY CUTTING BACK SOME OF THE SHRUBS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE TOWN'S RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.
THEY JUST NEED AUTHORIZATION FROM THE TOWN TO ENTER INTO THE TOWN'S RIGHT OF WAY.
AND IF, IF YOUR BOARD WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, I AM SURE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT.
UM, THE NEXT CONCERN, WHAT, UM, KATE, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, I'M SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE BOARD MEMBERS KNOW AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE DO HAVE OUR, UH, TRAFFIC CONSULTANT ON THE ZOOM MEETING THIS EVENING, MR. JOHN CANNING.
SO IF THERE ARE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE MR. CANNING SPEAK TO THOSE.
UH, I'M GONNA COMBINE A FEW BECAUSE I THINK THE NEXT SEVERAL COMMENTS, UM, TO RESPOND TO WERE ABOUT THE, THAT THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE FIVE LOTS THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THE SHARED, THE SHARED ROADWAY, I'LL CALL IT.
AND THEN, UM, JUST CONCERN WITH THREE CURB CUTS ON LEY ROAD BEING SO CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER, UM, AND, AND WISHING FOR A REDUCTION.
AND I WOULD JUST SUBMIT THIS BOARD KNOWS MAYBE, UM, SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WATCHING AREN'T AWARE THAT WE DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CONNECT TO THE SHARED ROADWAY.
AND MR. MARIN IS THE ONLY, UH, OWNER WHO WANTED TO CONNECT.
WE CAN'T FORCE ANYBODY ELSE TO CONNECT, UM, TO REDUCE THE CURB CUTS.
BUT I WOULD SUBMIT AGAIN THAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAS REVIEWED THE LAYOUT, THE SUBDIVISION PLAN, AND, UM, THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT HE HAD WAS ABOUT THE, THE SITE LINE CONDITIONS.
UH, MR. STAN, WERE THERE OTHER COMMENTS IN PARTICULAR? I THINK I KNOW THAT LAST ONE SORT OF TOOK CARE OF A FEW COMMENTS YOU MADE, BUT I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD.
UM, I CAN MOVE ON TO MR. FERRIS'S COMMENT, JUST RIGHT SEEING HOW MR. CANNON IS HERE.
UH, UH, I JUST ASKED HIM TO JUST FOLLOW UP AND COMMENT ON, UH, UH, THE ISSUE OF THE TRAFFIC AND, UH, AND THE SIGHT LINE.
I, WE SAW YOUR REPORT THAT INDICATED, UH, WHAT SHOULD BE DONE.
IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU WISH TO MAKE CONCERNING, UH, ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED THIS EVENING? UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? UH, NOT IN PARTICULAR.
I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PROJECT FOR PROBABLY 12 MONTHS AS LONG AS YOU'VE BEEN REVIEWING IT.
AND I KNOW THAT, UH, SIGHT LINES HAVE BEEN A CONCERN OF, UH, VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, INCLUDING THE ANGLE OF THE DRIVEWAY AND THE ABILITY TO LOOK LEFT AND RIGHT.
I WILL NOTE THAT, UH, THIS DRIVEWAY IS ON A SLIGHT CONCAVE SIDE OF THE CURVE, SO IT MAKES IT EASIER TO LOOK TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT WITHOUT HAVING TO TURN YOUR NECK HARD TO SEE.
UM, AND ALSO BECAUSE IT'S ON THE CONCAVE SIDE OF THE CURVE, IT ACTUALLY HAS BETTER SIGHT LINES THAN IF WE'RE ON THE INSIDE OF THE CURVE.
UH, THERE'S ABOUT 445 FEET OF SIGHT DISTANCE TO THE LEFT.
THERE'S ABOUT 200 AND 200 FEET OF SIGHT DISTANCE TO THE RIGHT.
UM, THERE WERE SPEED SURVEYS DONE TO DETERMINE HOW FAST VEHICLES WERE TRAVELING.
UM, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, THEY'RE NOT TRAVELING VERY FAST ABOUT 24 MILES PER HOUR
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AS THEY COME UP THE HILL AROUND THE BEND FROM SPRAIN ROAD.UM, AND WE DETERMINED BASICALLY THAT ALL OF THE SIGHTLINES MEET THE BASIC, OR THEY ACTUALLY EXCEED THE BASIC REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THE ONE SITE LINE THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS WHEN YOU COME UP, UH, ARDSLEY ROAD, GOING EASTBOUND FROM SPRAIN ROAD, AND YOU GO AROUND THE CORNER, IF FOR SOME REASON THERE'S SOMEBODY STOPPED IN THE ROAD, IF A SCHOOL BUS STOPS OR IF A GARBAGE TRUCK STOPS, UH, THE SIDELINES JUST MET THE MINIMUM AT THAT LOCATION, BUT THERE'S A HEDGE, UH, A HEDGE ROW ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY THAT EXTENDS OUT INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY BY ABOUT FIVE FEET.
SO IF YOU CUT THAT BACK, YOU CAN INCREASE THE SITE DISTANCE FROM 135 FEET TO 155 FEET, WHICH IS FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE PROPORTION.
UH, THE, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE TO OFFER IS THAT, UH, THIS IS A TOWN ROAD.
UM, AND THE DRIVEWAY, THE STANDARDS ARE THE SAME FOR A ROADWAY OR A DRIVEWAY FROM A SITE DISTANCE PERSPECTIVE, SAFETY.
ARE YOU FINISHED? UM, UM, MRS. ROBERTS, I THINK WE JUST HAD MR. FERRIS'S COMMENTS TO GO OVER, AND I'M GONNA WITH HIS LAST, HEY.
MR. STAS COMMENT ABOUT, UH, THE DRAIN ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
I'M JUST GONNA SHOW MY BRAIN NOW.
AND DAVE, I'M ACTUALLY ALSO, IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA, MR. FERRIS'S QUESTIONS WERE, UM, MOSTLY ABOUT STEEP SLOPES AND, UM, TREE INTEGRITY AND, AND THINGS I THINK THAT YOU
SO IF YOU COULD ALL THE RECORD, IT'S DR.
SO THERE IS A, A CURB INLET, UH, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS BEHIND THE EXISTING CURB.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE CURB BOX AND CONVERT THIS TO A DRAIN INLET AND CREATE A GUTTER ALONG THE CURB HERE, WHICH WILL DIRECT THE RUNOFF COMING DOWN R Z ROAD INTO THIS DRAIN INLET, WHICH IS ACTUALLY AN 18 INCH PIPE THAT GOES ACROSS THE ROAD AND TIES INTO THE REST OF THE SYSTEM TO INTERCEPT THE WATER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, UH, UH, SORRY.
SO, UM, DAVE, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO, I CAN LAY OUT DR.
FERRIS'S QUESTIONS AND THEN IF YOU DON'T MIND MIND DOING THE TECHNICAL RESPONSE.
BUT, UM, HE, HE FIRST SPOKE TO, UH, THE STEEP SLOPES AND WAS CONCERNED ABOUT ANY IMPINGEMENT ON THE STEEP SLOPES ON HIS PROPERTY.
AND THAT POTENTIALLY BRINGING WATER DOWN, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO, UH, MAYBE THE MOVING OF THE DRIVEWAY ON, ON THE FIRST SLOT, AS WELL AS HOW THE STEEP SLOPES WILL BE PROTECTED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, ON THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED SUBDIVISION, UH, THE DRIVEWAY TO WHAT WAS LOT ONE, WHICH WAS OVER HERE, WE HAD THE HOUSE CITED ABOUT HERE.
SORRY, DAVE, YOU'RE NOT SHARING YOUR SCREEN.
SO ON THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED SUBDIVISION, UH, WHICH WAS FOR RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UH, WE HAD PLACED A HOUSE HERE AND HAD A 20 FOOT WIDE DRIVEWAY, WHICH WAS REQUIRED WIDTH FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS TO GET TO THIS HOUSE.
AND AS DISCUSSED EARLIER, DUE THE CONCERNS OF THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAY, UH, FROM BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WE DECIDED TO REDUCE THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION TO THREE LOTS.
SO THAT DRIVEWAY THAT CAME OFF THE CUL-DE-SAC TRAVERSED ALL THE WAY ACROSS HERE TO WHERE THE HOUSE AND DRIVEWAY WAS OVER HERE.
UM, AS DISCUSSED EARLIER, EACH OF THESE HOUSES, UM, WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THEIR OWN STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FOR THE RUNOFF FROM THE ROOF.
AND WE WENT OUT AND WE DID DEEP HOLE TESTS AND INFILTRATION TESTS ON EACH ONE OF THESE LOTS TO DETERMINE THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE DEPTH, UH, COVER ABOVE BEDROCK AND ALSO, UH, ADEQUATE INFILTRATION RATES.
AND IN BOTH INSTANCES, WE HAD, UM, ADEQUATE DEPTH AND GOOD INFILTRATION RATES.
AND THE RUNOFF FROM THE DRIVEWAY, UH, IS GOING TO, IS NOT, IS NOT BEING DIRECTED DOWN THE HILL, IT'S BEING DIRECTED DOWN THE DRIVEWAY INTO THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHICH WILL GO INTO THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
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WE PROGRESS, UH, THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THIS SITE PLAN APPROVAL, UH, WE HAVE SOME DIVERSION DITCHES HERE.AND WE CAN ALSO, UM, COLLECT THE RUNOFF THAT'S BEING DIVERTED AROUND THESE WALLS AND DIVERT, DIVERTED DOWN THE DRIVEWAY.
'CAUSE CURRENTLY THIS WHOLE HILL SLIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TOPO UNDERNEATH, JUST FLOWS DOWN THIS WAY.
DAVE, ARE, IS THE DRIVEWAY GONNA BE CURVED TO KEEP WATER ON IT? YES.
AND, AND AS YOU CAN IT OUT, YES.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE CONTOURS HERE, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A SIX INCH CURB ALONG BOTH SIDES OF THE DRIVEWAY.
SO THIS WILL ONLY BE, UM, GRASS OR AND LANDSCAPING ALONG HERE.
THANK YOU ALL THE DR ALL THE DRIVEWAY, THE TURNAROUND AREA HERE IS ALL BEING DIRECTED IN THIS DIRECTION.
AM I, AM I JUST ABLE TO JUST ASK A QUESTION REGARDING THIS THEN TOO? GO AHEAD, MR. FERRIS.
UM, SO ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING, IT BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS NOW GOING TO BE PLACED THERE, DOES THAT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY THE WATER WOULD FLOW ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING? WOULD IT DAM IT IN ANY WAY AND THEN DIRECT IT, YOU KNOW, MORE INTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES? NO.
AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE HAVE A HIGH POINT BEHIND THE HOUSE HERE DIRECTING HALF OF THE, UM, LAWN AREA BEHIND THE HOUSE THIS WAY, AND THE OTHER HALF AROUND THIS WAY.
AND AS I SAID EARLIER, UM, YOU CAN ALSO PUT DIVERSION DITCHES BEHIND THESE RETAINING WALLS TO DIRECT THIS RUNOFF COMING DOWN HERE THAT USED TO ALL COME, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CONTOURS HERE.
ANYTHING FROM ABOUT HERE ALL THE WAY UP THE HILL WAS DIRECTED OVER HERE.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE GONNA BE REDUCING THE AREA THAT'S DRAINING IN THAT DIRECTION AND DIVERTING IT, UM, TO THE SOUTH OF THE HOUSE.
BUT HOW ABOUT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE? DOES ANYTHING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE THEN GET REDIRECTED BY IMPINGING UPON THE, THE, UH, AREA WHERE THE BUILDING IS BEING PROPOSED? UM, SOME OF IT IS DIVERTED, BUT, UM, IT'S, THE RUNOFF IS ALREADY GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND THIS, UH, ALL UP HERE IS, IS UNDISTURBED AS EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH OF THE HOUSE HERE, WHICH, UM, I THINK ALSO RESPONDS TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION ABOUT, UH, DEER AND COYOTE DISPLACEMENT.
THAT ALL, ALL OF THIS AREA, WHICH WAS OUR FORMER PROPOSED LOT, ONE IS GOING TO REMAIN UNDISTURBED.
AND THERE'S ALSO UNDISTURBED AREA BEHIND EACH OF THESE LOTS HERE.
AND THE PROPERTY BEHIND THIS, THESE LOTS IS THE, I BELIEVE, THE CON EDISON PROPERTY WITH THE, UH, OVERHEAD TOWERS.
ALSO, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT, UH, I THINK THE, THE LAST REMAINING, I THINK IT WAS A REQUEST FROM DR.
FERRIS, WAS ABOUT, UH, WATER ACCESS TO THE PIPES.
AND I'LL LET DAVE SPEAK TO THE TECHNICALITIES.
I MEAN, IF THE PIPES ARE RUNNING UP, UP THE ENTIRE DRIVEWAY, I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
I WOULD JUST SAY IT WOULD REQUIRE AN EASEMENT.
IT WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO OBTAIN AN EASEMENT FROM SEVERAL NEIGHBORS, UH, OR I GUESS LOT ONE IN ORDER TO DO SO.
UM, I, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT.
I'M, I'M JUST, UH, IDENTIFYING THAT AS A, AS A FUTURE CONCERN.
FERRIS, I, I GUESS THE QUESTION, UH, SENT IS WITH YOU AT THE, AS THE APPLICANT NOW, UM, ASSUMING, UH, THAT THERE IS AN APPROVAL ON, ON IT WHILE YOU ARE STILL APPLICANT AND OWN THE PROPERTY, ARE YOU AMENABLE TO AN EASEMENT, UM, THAT WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT BENEFIT, UH, FOR, UH, DR.
FERRIS? UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE A PRIVATE ARRANGEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT THE QUESTION, UH, I THINK HE ASKED, UH, AND THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IS
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WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE UPON APPROVAL? I THINK THAT MY CLIENT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO HAVING, HAVING THE CONVERSATION WITH DR.COMMIT TO, TO IT WITHOUT HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH OBVIOUSLY.
UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, GENERICALLY SPEAKING TONIGHT, I THINK HE WOULD, HE WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH DR.
UM, UM, THERE, THERE WAS, UM, ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT, UM, MR. MARIN SENT ME A CHAT.
UM, HE'S HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, BUT, UM, IF YOU COULD PAN DOWN DAVE, UM, TO MR. MARIN'S, THREE LOTS, UM, WHAT MR. MARIN INDICATED IS THAT IN RESPONSE TO MR. STAN'S COMMENT ABOUT A THIRD POTENTIAL CURB CUT FROM THE MARIN PROPERTY GOING UP TO THE CUL-DE-SAC, UM, THE WAY THE LOTS ARE, ARE ARRANGED CURRENTLY, THAT THIRD LOT DOWN BELOW HAS FRONTAGE ONTO SPRAIN ROAD.
AND IT WAS ALWAYS ENVISIONED THAT THE CURB CUT WOULD GO DOWN TO SPRAIN ROAD AND NOT OUT, YOU KNOW, UP TO THE NORTH, WHICH WOULD BE A LENGTHY RUN FURTHER THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UH, A RE SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE NARROW NATURE OF THE LOTS THERE.
AND I IMAGINE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FRONTAGE ALONG SPRAIN ROAD AND OTHER DRIVEWAYS ON SPRAIN ROAD THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY IS TO FUNCTION THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T MAKE A, A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT OF SENSE TO, UH, TRY TO TIE INTO THAT CUL-DE-SAC.
SO, MR. MARIN JUST WANTED TO INDICATE THAT THE THIRD LOT DOWN BELOW HAS ADEQUATE FRONTAGE ON THE SPRAIN ROAD, AND IF IT WERE IMPROVED WITH A HOME, IT WAS ALWAYS ENVISIONED THAT THE DRIVEWAY WOULD BE OUT THE SPRAIN ROAD AT THAT POINT.
SO JUST WANTED TO RELAY THAT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
FERRIS RATHER SEEMS TO, UH, HAS RAISED HIS HAND.
WE, YOU DIDN'T, UH, ADDRESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, UH, UM, IMPIN, UH, THE EFFECT ON TREE INTEGRITY AT THE POSTERIOR PART OF THE, OF MY PROPERTY.
AND, UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING ONE, IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE DISTURBANCES TO THOSE, THOSE, UH, MATURE TREES, WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THAT WOULD CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH EITHER THE ROOTING SYSTEM OR SOME OTHER, UM, PROBLEM WITH THE INTEGRITY OF THE TREES THAT WOULD THEN, UH, MAKE THEM, UM, EITHER, UH, SUBJECT TO, UH, DYING OR TO, UM, FALLING IN MY, IN MY PROPERTY.
FERRIS, UM, DAVEY, UM, RESOURCE GROUP PREPARED A TREE PRESERVATION PLANS, WHICH I CAN SHARE WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU THEIR PLANS TO PROTECT THE TREES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND, STEVE, WHILE YOU'RE PULLING THAT WHILE, SORRY.
OH, I WAS ONLY GONNA INDICATE TO MR, TO DR.
FERRIS THAT WHILE MR. LOMBARDI'S PULLING THAT UP, THAT THE TOWN, UM, FAIRLY RECENTLY ADOPTED A NEW TOWN TREE ORDINANCE THAT IS VERY STRINGENT.
UM, WITH THAT IS A COMPANION DOCUMENT DOCUMENT KNOWN AS THE TOWN TREE TECHNICAL MANUAL, WHICH IDENTIFIES, UM, VERY STRICT PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR TREES THAT ARE NOT REMOVED.
UM, AND IF AN APPLICANT CANNOT MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS, THEN ESSENTIALLY THEY MUST PROPOSE THE TREE TO BE REMOVED, UM, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IMPACTING TOO MUCH OF THE ROOT SYSTEM AND CREATE THE SITUATION THAT YOU'VE INDICATED THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH.
WHERE IF THEY WERE DIGGING INTO THE ROOT SYSTEM ON THE UPHILL SIDE, COULD THE TREE BE PRONE TO, YOU KNOW, FALLING EITHER A DYING OR B FALLING OVER DOWN ONTO YOUR PROPERTY BELOW? SO THERE ARE VERY STRINGENT STANDARDS, AND WHILE THIS APPLICATION DATES BACK FOUR YEARS PLUS, UM, THE APPLICANT WAS NOTIFIED EVEN BEFORE THE NEW ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED THAT THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEREFORE THEY BROUGHT ON A CONSULTANT TO PROVIDE THE TREE, UH, TREE PLAN AND THE TREE PROTECTION PROPOSAL THAT MR. LOMBARDI REFERENCE.
UH, I'M JUST GONNA SHARE, UH, THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN THAT WAS PREPARED BY DAVEY RESOURCE GROUP, WHICH SHOWS, UH, THE PROTECTION OF ALL OF ALL THESE TREES IN THIS AREA AND ALSO FENCING TO PREVENT, UH, CON CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT FROM GOING OUTSIDE OF THE LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE.
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SO ALL OF THESE TREES HERE WILL HAVE, UH, AND THEY ALSO SHOW THE ROOT, THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONES.A LOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO THIS.
UM, AND JUST ONE MORE, UH, RESPONSE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
FERRIS, I WOULD BE HAPPY FOR AARON TO SHARE MY EMAIL ADDRESS AND CONTACT INFORMATION WITH YOU.
UM, AND YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO REACH OUT.
MY CLIENT HAS TEXTED ME THAT HE'S DEFINITELY WILLING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ABOUT THE EASEMENT FOR THE WATERLINE.
SO, AARON, IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND SHARING MY CONTACT INFORMATION, WE CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH DR.
FERRIS AND, AND START A DIALOGUE.
UH, IT DOES, IT DOES APPEAR THAT MR. STEIN HAS ANOTHER COMMENT CHAIRPERSON SIMON.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO WRAP THIS UP AND OKAY.
THE GO, UH, GO AHEAD FOR PRE PLEASE BE BRIEF.
UH, REAL QUICK, UH, IS THERE GONNA BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING? I, I'M NOT, I FORGOT THE PROCESS FROM MARLEY CHASE.
THERE'S GONNA BE MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UH, I, I DID, NO, I DON'T PLAN TO HAVE ANOTHER.
THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TO GET INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC, AND IF THE APPLICANT CANNOT ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE RAISED, THEN I WOULD ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL CONTINUE IT.
UH, ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED, I FEEL WERE ADEQUATELY RESPONDED TO BY THE, THE APPLICANT.
SO I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
HOWEVER, WHEN WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE RECORD WILL BE OPEN TO WHAT MAY 12TH IS THE DATE, AARON OR MAY 13TH.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UM, THE, THAT THE PLANNING BOARD ACTUALLY EXTENDS THE OPEN WRITTEN RECORD PERIOD.
IF IT WERE TO CLOSE THIS EVENING FOR A PERIOD OF THREE WEEKS TO MAY 26TH, THAT'S FINE.
UM, THE APPLICANT'S STILL FINE TUNING A, A, A FEW MINOR THINGS WITH THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING.
OUR TOWN FORESTRY OFFICER IS GOING THROUGH TREE BY TREE VERIFYING THAT THE APPLICANT'S COMPLIED IN FULL WITH THE, UM, TOWN TREE ORDINANCE, WHICH WE PRELIMINARILY REVIEWED AND DO BELIEVE THAT THEY CERTAINLY HAVE.
BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COMPLIANT FROM A TREE PROTECTION STANDPOINT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, THAT GIVES, UM, STAFF AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ADDITIONAL TIME TO PROVIDE WRITTEN COMMENTS AND FOR THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND.
SO THAT WOULD BE STAFF'S SUGGESTION IF THE BOARD WERE, I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL MAY 26TH MOVED.
WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON PB 1706 AND MR. CHAIRMAN FOR IF, UH, ONE OTHER REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS THAT, UH, WE NEED TO SEE A SEPARATE PLAT, UH, WITH THE LOT LINES FOR THE, UM, MAREN SUBDIVISION.
SO THAT SHOULD, UH, BE INCLUDED, UH, BECAUSE, UH, UH, THAT, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE IN THE RECORD IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION, UH, UH, ON, UH, OUR PLANNING.
WE SUBMITTED MEETING, WE'VE SUBMITTED A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLATT FOR THE, JUST FOR THE MARIN PROPERTY.
BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SEE THAT TONIGHT, I GUESS.
YEAH, I, I THINK, I THINK WITH RESPECT TO IT BEING A BIT MORE CLEAR, UM, THERE IS A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT, BUT THERE ARE A, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LINE TYPES AND IT, IT AT LEAST WAS UNCLEAR OVER THE ZOOM.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THAT CLEANED UP A BIT AND SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON THE WEBSITE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
UH, WE WILL ALSO TRANSMIT IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
I HAVE THAT VOTE DOWN FOR, UM, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON PB 1706.
AND MY QUESTION WAS REALLY FOR DAVID, BEING THAT TECHNICALLY IT'S TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS, SHOULD THERE BE TWO SEPARATE VOTES? CORRECT? I THOUGHT, YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION ALSO.
I ALWAYS CLOSE IT ON THIS AND THEN TAKE ANOTHER VOTE.
SO LET'S FIRST CLOSE, UH, MAKE A DECI TAKE THE VOTE ON
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PB 1706.THAT'S, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND AND WE CLOSED IT.
YEAH, THERE WAS A VOTE ALREADY.
SO WE MOVE 2103 MORE ON THE SECOND, UH, APPLICATION AND THAT IS, UM, P B 2103.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP IT OPEN TO MAY 26TH? SO MOVED.
SO, UM, UH, UH, SO THE PUBLIC, UH, SO WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON, UH, MAY 26TH.
YES, AND I'LL READ THAT THE BOARD.
I JUST WANTED TO NOTE, UM, JUST MR. STAN, I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT SEEKER PROCEDURE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK TOMORROW OR, OR SOMETIME NEXT WEEK, BUT IN THIS CASE, THE PLANNING BOARD HAS ADOPTED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION, WHICH IS A SECRET DETERMINATION.
THERE WILL NOT BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT, OKAY? YES, THANK YOU.
AND PLEASE TALK, UH, LET'S MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO TALK BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT LAWYER AND I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, VIEW SOME OF THESE FORMS AND FIND THEM ON THE, ON THE TOWN WEBSITE BETTER, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO PREPARE.
COULD YOU UNDERSTOOD, HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
YOU SPEAK WITH AARON, UH, SCHMIDT OFFLINE AND HE COULD PROVIDE YOU WITH ALL THAT INFORMATION.
OKAY, SO THE NEXT ITEM AS CHAIRPERSON SIMON SAID IS CASE NUMBER PV 21 DASH ZERO WONG ONE CHUNG AND WONG LOCATED AT 18 MOUNT PLEASANT LANE PO IRVINGTON IN THE R TEN ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS STEEP SLOPE AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPROVALS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD PROJECT INVOLVES THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW IN-GROUND POOL AND SPA AS WELL AS DECKING AND A PATHWAY LEADING FROM THE HOUSE TO THE POOL AND SPA AREA.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE REMOVAL OF ONE REGULATED TREE AND IS PREPARED A LANDSCAPING PLAN PROVIDING FOR THE PLANTING OF SEVERAL TREES AND VARIOUS SHRUBS AS REPLACEMENT PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS MATTER AT ITS APRIL 7TH, 2021, MEETING THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE ASIO THIS EVENING.
TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT DISCUSSED MINOR REVISIONS MADE TO THE PLANS SINCE THE LAST MEETING.
AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE.
UH, CHAIRMAN SIMON AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD, ROBERT SCHWEITZER HERE, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND APPLICANT FOR OWNERS FOR RICKY WONG AND ANNIE CHUNG.
SO IF WE COULD, UM, YOU WANT TO, LET'S, LET'S, WHERE DO YOU WANNA START WITH THE PLANTING REVISIONS? THE, THE, THAT SHOW BOTH COULD, COULD, WELL I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL WOULD BE TO GIVE AN OVERALL FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY CONDENSED BUT, UH, THOROUGH ENOUGH TO THE, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC GET A THOROUGH SENSE OF THE PROJECT AND THEN SPEAK TO THE BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE REVISIONS MADE SINCE THE WORK SESSION AND DURING DISCUSSION, COULD YOU THROW UP THE, UM, THE SHARE SCREEN SO WE COULD SEE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YES.
COULD WE PUT YES, WE'VE ENABLED THAT THIS EVENING, AARON? YES.
COULD WE PUT THE PLAN UP? OH, OKAY.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.
WELL, YOU HAD THAT LAST TIME, SO I, I WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT FOR YOU.
WOULD SHEET L SEVEN BE OKAY? UH, I THINK THAT'S A SURVEY.
LET ME CHECK, LET BEAR WITH ME JUST FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME PLAN REVISIONS SO I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IT WOULD, OKAY.
I'M GONNA PULL IT UP RIGHT NOW.
YOU COULD, THIS IS THE OVERALL PLAN, AND THEN I'LL HAVE MR. SCHWEITZER SPEAK TO THAT, AND THEN WE CAN PULL UP THE REVISED PLAN THAT HE PROVIDED.
LET ME JUST, UH, MOVE THIS UP HERE.
AND FOR ALL OF YOU THAT ARE NEW HERE, IT'S A PROPOSAL FOR A, UM, AN IN-GROUND SWIMMING POOL, GUNITE 18 WIDE BY 38 LONG.
IT ALSO HAS A, UM, INCLUDED SPA AND A SMALL DECK ON THE
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SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE POOL.OFF OF THE DECK, THERE ARE SOME STEPS THAT BRING YOU DOWN TO A WALK, WHICH IS A GRASS WALK, AND THEN STEPS.
SO THE LANDINGS ARE THE LANDINGS AND, AND, AND WALKWAYS ARE, ARE GRASS, AND THE STEPS ARE BLOCKS OF STONE THAT BRINGS YOU DOWN TO AN EXISTING PATIO.
WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES AT THE ENTRANCE IN THAT AREA WHERE, WHERE AARON'S SHOWING YOU NOW THERE'S A, AN EXISTING WALL, WHICH WE'VE IN INCORPORATED A PLANTER, WHICH CHEEKS THE STEPS AND BRINGS YOU DOWN TO THE EXISTING PATIO.
AND THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE PATIO, THE PLANTINGS.
UM, OUR, WE'VE, WE'VE SCREENED THE REAR PROPERTY LINE ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE WITH, ORIGINALLY IT WAS PROPOSED, UH, ALL HEMLOCKS.
AND AT THE SUGGESTION REQUEST OF THE PLANNING BOARD, WE ADDED, QUOTE, SOME DIVERSITY INTO THIS.
SO, UM, WE'VE ADDED, UM, YOU'LL SEE ON THE REVISED PLAN, YOU'LL SEE THE CHANGES.
WE'VE JUST, UM, INCORPORATED ANOTHER SPECIES OF TREES IN THAT.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME, UH, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT LIGHTING, WHICH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STEPS, AS YOU ENTER THE PATIO, THERE IS A POSTLIGHT THERE.
UH, AND SO THE PLANNING BOARD HAD CONCERNS THAT THAT LIGHT MIGHT IMPACT THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH.
SO, UH, WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE AS WELL.
AND, UM, UH, THAT, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH, UH, THE REQUEST FOR THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND I'VE, I'VE SUBMITTED A REVISED, UH, PLANTING PLAN TO, TO GO INTO THAT.
I WILL, I WILL PULL THAT UP NOW.
SO CAN WE ZOOM IN THERE CORRECT A LITTLE BIT MORE SO WE CAN GET THE RIGHT.
SO WHAT I DID WAS I, UM, I ADDED ONE MORE TREE AND I BOXED IT INTO, INTO THE CORNER RIGHT HERE.
AND THOSE ARE ORIENTAL SPRUCES.
THEY TOLERATE SHADE, AND IT'S A VERY SHADY AREA, SO YOU'RE LIMITED TO WHAT, UH, TREES WILL, WILL GROW OR THRIVE IN THERE.
AND SO THAT WAS THE, UH, DIVERSION.
WE, WE ADDED THOSE THREE TREES ON THE ONE CORNER.
AND THEN THE, THE HEMLOCKS, YOU WILL SEE THERE ARE FOUR ON THE LEFT SIDE.
SO THERE IS A COMPLETE SCREEN ON THAT, UH, REAR LINE ON THAT SOUTHEAST, SOUTHWEST PART OF THE REAR LINE.
THEN AS YOU GO DOWN TO THE, THE POST LIGHT, I, I HAVE INCLUDED, I THINK A PICTURE.
WHAT WE DID WAS WE, I'M, I, WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT THE, THE PANEL ON THAT POST LIGHT AND THE FIXTURE WILL HAVE FOUR PANELS.
UH, THE, THE, I'M GONNA PULL, I'M GONNA PULL THAT UP NOW.
BEAR WITH ME JUST FOR A MOMENT.
UM, ONE OF THE PANELS WILL BE DARKENED IF I REMEMBER.
I'M HAVING TROUBLE FINDING THAT DRAWING, BUT I, I WILL, IF I, IF I CAN RECALL CORRECTLY, IT WAS, UH, A, A FOUR-SIDED LIGHT AND THE, AND THE SIDE THAT, UH, WAS EXPOSED TO THE NEIGHBOR WOULD BE, UH, UH, A DARK PIECE OF GLASS OR BLACK OUT OR, ANYHOW, SOME SORT OF, UH, UH, OF, OF, UH, ADDITION TO THE LAMP.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE A LIGHT SHINING OUT OF ONE AREA FACING THE NEIGHBORS, WHETHER IT'S DARK GLASS OR A PIECE OF DARK PLASTIC OR SOMETHING.
IS THAT CORRECT? CHAIRMAN SIMON? THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, WE'LL PROBABLY BRING, UH, THE, WE'LL EXTRACT, REMOVE THE OLD, THE NEW PANEL AND, AND, UH, FIND A REPLACEMENT.
WE'LL GO TO A GLACIER AND HAVE HIM CUT THAT OUT IN DARK GLASS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDING TO THIS APPLICATION FOR MEMBERS OF, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD? HI, I, I'M FROM THE PUBLIC.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF IT'S OKAY FOR NOT YET.
IT'S FOR THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FROM THE PARENTING BOARD MEMBERS, THEN I WOULD, UH, ASK AARON TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE FROM, UH, INDIVIDUALS FROM THE PUBLIC.
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HEAR THAT WISHES TO SPEAK.UH, YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE PLANTINGS.
'CAUSE I'M, I'M, I WAS GLAD TO SEE, UM, THAT YOU PUT THE PLANTINGS ALONG THE BACK, BUT IT LOOKS TO ME FROM WHAT YOU SHOWED, THAT THE PLANTING, THE PLANTINGS ARE ON SORT OF THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE, OF THE BACK WALL.
WHAT ABOUT ANY PLANTINGS ON, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PLANTING WALL? UM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE I WILL, ANYTHING THERE.
I WILL PULL UP THE DRAWING, BUT, UH, FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
ADRIAN JOHNSON, 12 ALGONQUIN DRIVE.
I'M GONNA PULL UP THAT PLAN FOR US.
AND THEN WE DO WHAT, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MS. JOHNSON? OR WAS THAT PRIMARILY A WELL, WELL, THAT WAS MY MAIN QUESTION.
I WAS JUST ALSO LOOKING AT, AT THE TIMING AND LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE, LIKE THE EXCAVATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALL WORKING FROM HOME NOW, SO I DON'T KNOW,
SO I'M JUST, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING OF WHEN THE WORK IS GONNA TAKE PLACE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IT'S GONNA BE GOING ON FOR BECAUSE OF THE NOISE, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, SO THAT'S SORT OF MY SECOND QUESTION, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT LIKE, THE AREA, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE POINTED TO THE, THE TREES ALONG THE BACK WALL TOWARDS THE RIGHT SIDE.
WHAT ABOUT TOWARDS THE LEFT SIDE? YEAH, THAT OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT ADRIAN, IF I MAY.
IF WE COULD JUST ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT SOUTH, UH, SOUTHEAST CORNER.
SO ADRIAN, UM, I DID TRY TO ADDRESS THIS.
UM, BELIEVE ME, I'M NOT IGNORING YOU.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S A DARK LINE AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A HATCH PATTERN, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO I WENT UP THERE AND I LOOKED AND, AND IT, IT, IT WAS JUST, UH, I DID NOT FIND ANY AREAS WHERE WE COULD PLANT TREES.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE DEPTH OF SOIL.
NOW, FIRST OF ALL, I, I'D BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU, UH, ON SITE, AND WE CAN LOOK BACK THERE AND IF WE CAN LOCATE, UH, SOME DEEPER PITS IN THAT AREA, WE'LL PUT TREES IN FOR YOU,
BUT, SO WHAT I DID WAS, I, I, I PLANTED THE, THE, UM, THE LEDGE AREA WITH, UM, A SPECIES OF PLANT THAT IS NATIVE.
I WANTED, WANTED THE, UH, THE PERIMETER, THE PERIPHERAL AREAS TO, TO, TO FOCUS MORE ON NATIVE PLANTINGS THAT THRIVES IN LEDGE AREAS.
AND THAT'S CAL FOLA, IT'S MOUNTAIN LAUREL.
MOUNTAIN LAUREL, UH, TYPICALLY, UH, GROWS ON RIDGES IN LEDGE AREAS, ROCK AREAS.
SO THESE, THESE SHRUBS WILL GET, TYPICALLY, THEY, THEY CAN, THEY CAN GET FIVE TO EIGHT FEET, BIG, LARGE, TYPICALLY, I WOULD SAY SIX FEET IS IS THE HEIGHT ON THAT.
SO, UM, WE'RE NOT, WE CAN'T PUT THEM IN AT THAT, AT THAT HEIGHT BECAUSE THEY WON'T SURVIVE.
WE HAVE TO PUT 'EM IN AT, AT 30 TO 36 INCH, UH, AND LET THEM ADAPT TO THEIR NEW ENVIRONMENT.
BUT IN TIME, THEY WILL MATURE TO THAT, THAT, UH, HEIGHT.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A, UH, IF WE CAN FIND SOME PLANTING AREAS IN THERE, I WILL PLANT TREES FOR YOU TO, TO YOUR LIKING.
UH, SUGGESTION B IS WHAT I HAVE, AND I'VE TRIED TO, UH, UH, AGAIN, RESPOND TO THE, TO THE, TO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.
AND SUGGESTION, C IS THAT MY CLIENT WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO INSTALL A PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THAT LEDGE AREA FOR YOU, A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE OR WHATEVER THE CODE WILL PERMIT MM-HMM.
SO, UM, WE, YEAH, WE, WE, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO PUT SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY GREENERY WOULD BE, WOULD BE NICER TO LOOK AT.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW IT'S A SEE-THROUGH FENCE WITH MY DECK BASICALLY STARING OVER, YOU KNOW, INTO THAT PART OF THE BACKYARD.
SO, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE, YOU KNOW, PLANTING WISE, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT, ABOUT THE PLANTINGS.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT NOTHING, NOTHING REALLY OF SUBSTANCE CAN BE PLANTED THERE, THEN WELL, OKAY.
WHAT WE, WHAT WE COULD DO IS TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT, UH, UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT PUT THE TWO OF YOU AND, AND, UH, HAVE A CONVERSATION AND THEN OF THE THREE CHOICES, YOU KNOW, YOU GET BACK TO US AND, AND, AND TELL US WHAT'S THAT FINAL SELECTION IS.
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I, I AGREE.AND I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THOSE ARRANGEMENTS.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, MR. BODEN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS PROJECT, MR. BODEN.
MY NAME IS MURRAY BO AND I LIVE IN HARTSDALE.
THE ISSUE OF THOSE POST LIGHTS HAS BECOME QUITE IMPORTANT, UH, WITH THE ISSUE OF GLOBAL WARMING AND PROVIDING ENOUGH LIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WALKING.
'CAUSE I WALK CAPITAL LAWRENCE IN A SIMILAR PROBLEM THERE.
I HAVE OVER MY DRIVEWAY ACTIVATED L E D LIGHTS THAT ARE VERY BRIGHT AND VERY FOCUSED, AND I THINK THAT ALL APPLICANTS NEED TO BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT NOT USING THE TYPE OF, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL 'EM, POST LIGHTS THAT YOU'RE USING NOW, AND SWITCH OVER TO LEDS THAT CAN BE AIMED PROPERLY.
I WAS IN THE CHASE BANK IN AUSLEY THE OTHER DAY, AND THEY HAVE LIGHTS IN THE CEILING AT NIGHT, WHICH ARE QUITE, USE A LOT OF ENERGY.
AND IF THEY TOOK JUST ONE OF THOSE LIGHTS THAT OVER MY DRIVEWAY, MY GARAGE, IT WOULD ELIMINATE ALL OF THE LIGHTS THAT THEY USE AT NIGHT.
THERE'S A BIG PUSH BY CON EDISON.
I GOT ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THEM TODAY TELLING ME, HEY, MY USAGE LAST WEEK TO REDUCE CONSUMPTION, THEY HAVE A PROGRAM TO REDUCE CONSUMPTION IN THE SUMMER.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE PLACE WHERE THERE IS THE USUAL LIGHTS AND REALIZE THE USUAL IS OVER.
NOW, I BOUGHT ONE SHARE OF STOCK AND CHASE BANK, SO THAT AS A SHAREHOLDER, I CAN WRITE TO THEM AND SAY, TURN OUT THE LIGHTS ON THE CEILING AND PUT IN ONE L E D LIKE I HAVE OVER MY DRIVEWAY.
AND YOU'LL SAVE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN EVERY SINGLE BRANCH OF A BANK.
THIS IS A NEW WAY OF THINKING.
THIS IS GLOBAL WARMING, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, THE WORLD CHANGED.
WE WILL NEVER GO BACK TO THE WAY WE DID IT BEFORE.
THOSE POST LIGHTS THAT WE ALWAYS USED AND WERE BEAUTIFUL ENERGY-WISE, WE CAN'T AFFORD 'EM ANYMORE.
HOW DO YOU REDUCE ENERGY EVERYWHERE IN SMALL, INCREMENTAL BITS? OKAY.
THE USUAL LIGHTS THAT YOU'VE RECOMMENDED CAN'T BE USED ANYMORE, AND THEY MAY NOT LOOK AS NICE AS YOU USED TO IT.
THE WHOLE WORLD IS GONNA LOOK DIFFERENT.
SO THIS IS FOR OUR, MY GRANDCHILDREN AND THEIR GENERATION.
WHAT KIND OF A WORLD DO WE LEAVE LIVE TODAY? CERTAINLY NOT THE ONE WE GREW UP IN.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
THE ISSUE WHETHER THANK YOU, THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT THE LIGHT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS THE L E D LIGHT.
THE PICTURES HAVE NOT BEEN SPECIFIED AT THIS TIME, BUT I AM STRONGLY IN FAVOR, AND I USE L E D L E D LAMPS.
SO THE, THE GROUND LIGHTS MOST CERTAINLY WOULD BE L E D, AND, AND THE POST LIGHT WOULD BE L E D.
MAY HE, HE'S MAKING ABSOLUTE SENSE.
I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE TRANSITIONED, UH, 10 YEARS AGO WHEN THESE THINGS STARTED TO COME OUT.
SO, UH, YOU, I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I, I AM COMPLETELY ON BOARD WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MR. BODEN.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HI.
UM, WE DIDN'T ADDRESS LIKE THIS.
BEFORE WE FINISH, GO BACK TO YOU, I WANNA MAKE SURE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO HAVE A, A, A QUESTION ON THIS APPLICATION.
IF THERE'S NOT, THEN YOU MAY ASK YOUR SECOND QUESTION.
ARE THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? UH, AARON? NO, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
SO, UM, I GUESS JUST TO CONFIRM WITH THE ANSWER TO THE FIRST QUESTION WAS THAT MS. AARON SCHMIDT IS GOING TO CONTACT ME WITH, I GUESS THE, THE, UM, THE, THE DEVELOPER FOR THE PROPERTY, AND WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TOGETHER THAT, THAT WORKS FOR ALL OF US.
UM, IS THAT WHERE WE'RE LEAVING THAT OFF RIGHT NOW? YEAH.
HE OFFERED THREE DIFFERENT, UH, HE IDENTIFIED THREE DIFFERENT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS, AND SO YOU COULD GET TOGETHER AND, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION WAS THE TIMING OF IT.
UM, THE, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT LEVEL OF NOISE AND, AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOURS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
LIKE, WOULD WE BE, YOU KNOW, DO, DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT? MAY I RESPOND? MM-HMM.
WE ARE HOPING FOR A SEPTEMBER START.
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WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UH, ENGINEERING AND BUILDING, AND THEN WE HAVE TO SECURE A CONTRACTOR AND IN, IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT, THAT WE ARE NOW, UH, NOT, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING ON, AND A LOT OF CONTRACTORS ARE VERY BUSY.BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE IDEAL TIME AFTER LABOR DAY TO START.
UH, THE PROJECT WILL TAKE, UH, I, I THINK THE POOL PROJECT WILL TAKE ABOUT TWO MONTHS, AND THEN SOME OF THE FINE DETAILS WITH THE PLANTING AND THE LIGHTING AND ODDS AND ENDS ANOTHER TWO TO FOUR WEEKS.
SO TWO, I WOULD SAY TWO TO THREE MONTHS.
ADRIAN WAS, IS THE LENGTH FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND IF I UNDERSTAND, UH, THE QUESTION THAT THE KEY POINT IS, IF YOU HAVE TO DO ANY CHIPPING, HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE MOST IMPACT, CORRECT? ON THE NEIGHBORS? YES.
WELL, I AM HOPING THAT WE DON'T, UH, ONE OF MY INITIAL SURVEYS WHEN I, WHEN I CAME UP TO THE PROPERTY IS THAT I HAD SOME LABORERS.
I DIDN'T BRING UP A, A MACHINE, BUT I HAD SOME LABORERS DIG A NUMBER OF TEST HOLES IN THE POOL AREA, AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA HIT LEDGE.
HONESTLY, I, I WAS, I WAS SHOCKED.
UH, THEY WENT DOWN FOUR FEET AND WE, WE HAD A SAND LOAM.
UH, EVENTUALLY THAT LEDGE IS GONNA SHOW UP SOMEWHERE, BUT, UM, AT FOUR FEET, WE DID NOT HIT ANY LEDGE ROCK.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU EXPECT A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF CHIPPING, BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME THERE MIGHT, THERE MIGHT BE SOME, YES, SIR.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS APPLICATION, I PROPOSE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN.
I GUESS WE MIGHT, WELL KEEP IT OPEN TO MAY 26TH, BECAUSE, UM, WE DON'T NO, NO.
WE HAVE ANOTHER, WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.
STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, 12TH WEEK THROUGH, THROUGH MAY 12TH.
AND WE WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT, OR MR. SCHWEITZER ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TO COORDINATE WITH MS. JOHNSON.
YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I WILL, UM, GET YOU GUYS IN TOUCH WITH ONE ANOTHER AND SHARE YOUR INFORMATION.
SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN GET TO THAT AND HOPEFULLY IRON THINGS OUT, UM, CERTAINLY BEFORE THE, THE 12TH, SO THAT I CAN REPORT BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC CARE AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN TO MAY 12TH.
UM, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OF TONIGHT'S, UH, UH, UH, PLANNING BOARD MEETING AND GO BACK INTO WORK SESSION.
OKAY, BARBARA, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A, UH, GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE A MAJOR SCHEDULING ISSUE BEFORE US.
WE HAVE FERNCLIFF CEMETERY, AND WE ALSO WANTED TO DISCUSS THE, THE BITS.
AND, UH, WE ONLY HAVE 15 MINUTES LEFT FOR TONIGHT'S SESSION.
AND, UH, THE, THE IS, UH, AND THE, THE THING, THE PROBLEM, YEAH, THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO GET, MOVE FORWARD ON THE BISS, BUT, UH, THE BI, UH, BUT DOES 15 MINUTES GIVE US SUFFICIENT TIME TO DO THAT? NO, YOU NEED 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR PROBABLY.
SO ON THAT, UH, UH, AND I WOULD AGREE.
SO I, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WILL, SHOULD GO CONTINUE WITH THE FERNCLIFF CEMETERY AND, AND THE NEXT, UH, NEXT MEETING THAT WILL BE FIRST ON THE AGENDA SO WE DON'T WIND UP WITH A SQUEEZE.
I THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE WE NEED TO HAVE AND TO DISCUSS, AND WE SHOULD NOT JUST SQUEEZE IT INTO A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
SO, WITH THAT SAID, WE WILL START WITH TB 2107, WHICH IS OUR PB 21 DASH OH FIVE, WHICH IS A REFERRAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
UH, AND I'LL QUICKLY, UM, INDICATE AS, AS CHAIRPERSON TIME AND INDICATED IT'S A, AN AMENDED SITE PLAN REFERRAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
TOWN BOARD ALSO HAS AUTHORITY OVER A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
AND THE PLANNING BOARD HAS A STEEP
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SLOPE, UH, PERMIT APPLICATION FOR THE PROPOSAL INVOLVING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PORTION OF THE FERNCLIFF CEMETERY PROPERTY TO CONSTRUCT VARIOUS CRIPS AND BURIAL VAULTS ON PREVIOUSLY UNDEVELOPED CEMETERY LAND WITH RETAINED RELATED RETAINING WALLS AND LANDSCAPING.THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE REMOVAL OF 50 REGULATED TREES REQUIRING, AS I MENTIONED, A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE TOWN BOARD, AND HAS PREPARED A LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR PROVIDING FOR THE PLANTING OF 15 TREES, 1,341 SHRUBS AND VARIOUS GROUND COVERS AS REPLACEMENT.
UM, THE SITE WAS MOST RECENTLY THE SUBJECT OF AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AS PART OF CASE NUMBER TB 1922, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD ON FEBRUARY 12TH, 2020.
WE HAVE MR. CARRIS HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE.
AND WE'VE ENABLED THE SHARE SCREEN.
UH, GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN SIMON AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I AM A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER WITH J M C, AND I'M HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF FRANKLIN CLIFF CEMETERY ASSOCIATION FOR, UM, THE FERNCLIFF, UH, HILLCREST WEST, UM, PROJECT.
UM, ALSO WITH ME THIS EVENING IS, UH, MR. DAN CABLE FROM E D A LAND PLANNING.
HIS FIRM PREPARED THE, UH, DETAILED DRAWINGS AND, UH, CEMETERY LAYOUT DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT.
HE'S AVAILABLE TONIGHT TO ANSWER SOME TECHNICAL QUESTIONS IF THEY MAY ARISE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
I HAVE A BRIEF, UM, PRESENTATION I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE BOARD THROUGH.
CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? YES.
SO I JUST WANNA START WITH A, A, A NICE, UH, EYE LEVEL RENDERING OF, UH, WHAT THIS PROJECT, UH, WILL LOOK LIKE UPON COMPLETION.
UM, AND WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO IT.
UM, AS, UH, EVERYONE'S, UH, LIKELY FAMILIAR FOR CLIFF CEMETERY IS A LARGE EXISTING CEMETERY IN GREENBURG LOCATED, UH, ALONG SEACO ROAD.
UH, IT'S, UH, APPROXIMATELY 64 ACRES INSIDE, INSIDE, WHICH MAKES UP THE NORTHERN PARCEL.
AND, UH, THERE'S EXTENSIVE GROUND BURIALS ON SITE, UH, CURRENTLY, UH, DATING BACK OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.
UH, THERE ARE ONGOING ACTIVE, UH, CEMETERY OPERATIONS EVERY DAY.
SO THERE'S STILL ARE, UH, DOING INTERNMENTS BOTH IN THEIR MAUSOLEUMS AND IN, UH, ON THE GROUND.
UM, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE THREE MAUSOLEUM STRUCTURES, THE EXISTING FRANKLIN MAUSOLEUM, UH, THE NEWER ROSEWOOD MAUSOLEUM, AND THE SUBJECT OF THE RECENT TOWN BOARD APPLICATION.
UM, THE PROJECT SITE, UH, IN QUESTION, AND THE SUBJECT OF TONIGHT'S ACTION IS, UM, CENTRALLY, CENTRALLY LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE IDENTIFIED HERE IN RED.
AND JUST FOR THE BOARD'S ORIENTATION, NORTH IS UP AND WEST.
WE ARE SEEKING TOWN BOARD AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR, UH, THIS APPLICATION.
WE'RE ALSO SEEKING A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOUR BOARD TO THE TOWN BOARD ON THE AMENDED SITE PLAN.
AND AS AARON SAID, WE'RE SEEKING A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, A TRUE REMOVAL PERMIT, AND, UM, ULTIMATELY GOING TO ASK THAT, UH, WE, UM, HOPEFULLY SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS, UM, AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING.
SO, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.
'CAUSE WE HAVE DONE A BUNCH OF LEGWORK TO GET TO THIS POINT.
UM, WE ATTENDED A, UH, TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION, UH, TO INITIALLY PRESENT THE PROJECT ON MARCH 2ND.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT MEETING, UH, WE HAD A PUBLICLY NOTICED, UH, NEIGHBOR INFORMATIONAL ZOOM MEETING.
UM, NOTICED, UH, ABOUT THREE DOZEN, UM, NEIGHBORS FROM THE, UH, UH, PROPERTY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN, UH, TO THE NORTH OF US.
AND THEN ON, UH, MARCH 7TH OR ON THE 10TH, UH, WE DID, UH, END UP SPEAKING WITH THREE OF THOSE, UH, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AND, UH, ONE, UH, MEMBER OF A CIVIC ASSOCIATION, UH, IN AN INFORMATIONAL SETTING.
AS A RESULT OF THAT MEETING, UM, WE DECIDED TO HAVE A SITE VISIT WITH THE THREE INTERESTED NEIGHBORS AT THEIR, UH, PROPERTIES ON MARCH 17TH.
AND, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FURTHER EXPLAIN THE PROJECT, IDENTIFY, UH, SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, UM, TO MAYBE MITIGATE SOME OF THE VISUAL IMPACTS HERE, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THEN ON APRIL 28TH, A PROCEDURAL REFERRAL TO YOUR BOARD TOOK PLACE FROM THE TOWN BOARD, AND YESTERDAY ON MAY 4TH, UM, WE MET WITH, UM, FOUR PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, UH, TO HAVE A SIDEWALK WALK, UH, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SITE AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPOSAL, WHICH BRINGS US TO THIS EVENING'S WORK SESSION ON MAY 5TH.
JAMES, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT WAS A, UH, UH, INFORMAL SITE WALK WITH PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, AND IT WAS STAGGERED SUCH THAT THERE WAS NOT A QUORUM.
WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS A RENDERING OF THE
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PROPOSED, UM, UH, PROJECT AREA.NOW, THE ORIENTATION IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT HERE WHERE NORTH IS TO THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN HERE, AND THE PROPERTY LINE WITH THE ADJACENT RESIDENCES TO THE NORTH IS ON THE EDGE OF THE PAGE.
SO THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED OF THREE MAIN COMPONENTS, UM, THE INSTALLATION OF SOME RETAINING WALLS, UH, INSTALLATION OF LAWN CRIPS BELOW GRADE, AND, UH, THE INSTALLATION OF EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING.
THERE ARE, UM, TWO MAIN AREAS OF THIS PROJECT.
ONE IS AN UPPER BURIAL AREA, AND THE OTHER IS A LOWER, UH, GROUND BURIAL AREA, UM, SEPARATED BY A RETAINING WALL IN THE CENTER, UM, REPRESENTING A, A CHANGE IN THE GRADE HERE.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE, UH, SURROUNDED BY EXISTING, UM, GROUND BURIALS THAT OCCUR OVER TIME.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THESE WALLS, INTERIOR TO THE SITE, UM, THERE ARE, UM, WHAT'S KNOWN AS, UM, CRYPT ESTATES AND CREMATION ESTATES.
AND THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY, UH, FAMILY PLOTS, YOU KNOW, A GENERATIONAL TYPE OF, UH, SPACE FOR FAMILIES TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO PURCHASE, UM, FOR THEIR, UM, UH, MEMORIALS.
AND, UM, THOSE ARE ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY CONTAIN SOME, UM, UH, REFLECTING BENCHES AND, UH, THEY'LL ALL BE NICELY LANDSCAPED AND MAINTAINED.
UM, SO JUST SOME NUMBERS OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT.
UM, 717 LAWN CRIPS, UH, 57 CRYP ESTATES ALONG THE PERIMETER WALLS HERE.
AND I JUST SAID, UH, EXTENSIVE, UM, INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR, UH, PROPERTY LINE LANDSCAPING.
SO, UH, THE NEXT FOUR SLIDES I'M GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH ARE JUST SOME PERSPECTIVE RENDERINGS, UH, THAT, UH, DAN'S OFFICE PREPARED, UH, TO, TO REALLY BRING THIS PROJECT TO LIGHT OR TO LIFE.
AND THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING NORTH, UM, ACROSS THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
THIS IS AN EXISTING, UH, INTERIOR, INTERIOR LOOP ROAD, UH, ROADWAY.
AND YOU SEE HERE THE, UH, LOWER, UH, LAWN CRYPT AREA, UH, THE PERIMETER, UM, UH, FAMILY ESTATES ALONG THIS INTERIOR RETAINING WALL.
AND THEN AT A DISTANCE HERE, YOU SEE THE UPPER AREA, UH, BEYOND, UM, FOUNDATION PLANT THINGS ALONG THE BASE OF THE WALLS, UM, FLOWERING TREES ALONG THE TOP OF THE WALLS.
AND THEN, UM, SOME PRETTY EXTENSIVE SCREENING ALONG THE, UH, THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
JUST ANOTHER VIEW GIVES YOU ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE LOOKING EASTWARD, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THE LOWER LAWN AREA AND THE, UH, UPPER AREA BEYOND.
AND SAME THING, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, LOWER AREA IN THE FOREGROUND AND THE, UH, UPPER AREA, UH, BEYOND THE, UH, THE INTERIOR WALLS HERE WITH THESE ESTATE PLOTS.
UH, THEY DO NOT SERVE ANY PURPOSE OTHER THAN, UM, UH, SEPARATING THEM.
THEY'RE NOT, UH, MAKING UP ANY GRADE CHANGE OR, UH, OR, UH, THAT TYPE OF, UH, PURPOSE.
AND THEN, UH, FINALLY JUST AN EYE LEVEL, GROUND LEVEL VIEW OF, UH, UH, WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE MONUMENTS THAT WOULD BE DESCRIBED AND DATES, UM, MEMORIAL BENCHES FOR REFLECTION.
HERE WE HAVE A, WHAT'S KNOWN AS A CREMATION ESTATE THAT WOULD, UH, OBTAIN URNS.
SO JUST A REALLY, UH, GOING FOR A VERY NICE, UM, UM, TIMELESS, UH, DESIGN HERE.
AS I MENTIONED, UM, WE'RE SEEKING, UM, A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD AND A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, THERE IS, UM, UH, A LINE OF EXISTING TREES ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, AND THE MAJORITY OF THESE TREES ARE, UM, EVERGREEN TREES THAT WERE INSTALLED, UM, IN THE MID NINETIES BY FERNCLIFFE.
UM, AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE, UH, OVERGROWN OVER YEARS.
THE INTERIOR, UH, TREES HERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WERE PLANTED IN A STAGGERED FASHION, UH, THEY'RE REALLY STARVED FOR LIGHT.
AND, UM, THE UNDERSTORY HAS BEEN REALLY, UH, KIND OF DYING OFF AND IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T PROVIDE THE SCREENING THAT IT WAS INITIALLY INTENDED TO DO.
SO, SO, UM, THAT PART OF THE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING PLAN IS TO, UM, TO MITIGATE THAT, UH, THAT CONDITION.
UH, I'LL JUST MENTION THAT THE, UH, AREA OF DISTURBANCE HERE IS, UH, JUST UNDER AN ACRE AT 0.8 ACRES.
AND, UH, THERE'S A TOTAL OF 50 TREES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
NOW, UM, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ASKED IF WE COULD PROVIDE, UH, SOME SECTIONS THAT WERE CUT THROUGH THE, UH, THE TWO, UH, ADJACENT, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND, UM, UH, SECTION TWO IS FROM 2 0 9 FOREST FOREST BOULEVARD HERE.
AND SECTION THREE IS FROM 2 0 5, UH, FOREST BOULEVARD HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE WALL IS APPROXIMATELY 11 FEET IN HEIGHT.
UM, BUT YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT, UH, UH, THERE IS PLANTINGS PROPOSED, UH, ON THE FIRST SIX, APPROXIMATELY SIX TO EIGHT FEET INSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE ON FORKLIFTS
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PROPERTY, UM, TO, UH, SCREEN THIS WALL WITH, UM, 12 FOOT, UH, ARBOR ES.AND THEN THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE LANDSCAPING AND FLOWERING TREE PLANTING THINGS ON TOP OF THE WALL HERE, AND THEN ON THE SECTION NEXT DOOR.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE LOWER FIELD BURIAL AREA HERE, THE RETAINING WALL OBVIOUSLY IS, UH, ONLY REQUIRED TO BE BETWEEN, SAY, FOUR AND FIVE FEET IN HEIGHT AS IT RUNS WITH THE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, BUT EVEN THOUGH THE WALL IS A LOWER HEIGHT, THE, UH, SCREENING, UM, IS GOING TO BE UNIFORM ACROSS THESE PROPERTIES, UM, TO PROVIDE THAT, UH, THAT VISUAL BARRIER.
AND FINALLY, JUST, UH, THIS IS A, UH, SECTION VIEW OF THE WALL, UM, LOOKING, UM, SOUTHWARD.
SO, UH, THIS WILL BE A PROFILE VIEW.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WALL, UM, IS, UH, SOMEWHAT HIGHER, UH, TOWARD THE EAST.
AND AS WE TRAVEL WEST, THE WALL IS LOWERED AND, UM, THAT WOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL.
NOW, THIS VIEW, UM, PREPARED, UM, SEVERAL VIEWS FROM, UH, A NUMBER OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
BUT, UM, THIS VIEW IS FROM, UM, UM, 2 0 5, UH, FOREST BOULEVARD.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE INTENT IS TO IMMEDIATELY AND PERMANENTLY SCREEN, UM, THIS, UH, THESE WALLS IN THIS AREA OF THE CEMETERY FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND WITH THE A ROW OF, UH, LOWER, UM, SHRUBBERY.
AND THEN, UM, THE, UH, 12 FOOT, UH, HIGH ARBOR BIDES, UM, AT THE TIME OF PLANTING.
AND, UM, WHEN WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON, UH, MARCH 17TH, UM, WE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE COULD DO ADDITIONALLY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, AMELIORATE THINGS AND MITIGATE SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS, UH, THERE, THERE'S AN EXISTING OVERHEAD UTILITY WIRE THAT RUNS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE, THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN FERN CLIFF'S BUILDINGS.
AND WE LOOKED INTO IT AND WE DISCOVERED THAT THIS IS NOT AN ELECTRIC LINE.
THIS IS A SIMPLY A TELECOMMUNICATIONS LINE, BUT IT'S IN A BIG BLACK, YOU KNOW, OVERHEAD CONDUIT.
AND WE CAN PUT THAT UNDERGROUND AND IT'S AT EYE LEVEL RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S A VISUAL MITIGATION THAT WE CAN OFFER.
WE CAN BURY THE TIRE LENGTH OF THAT, UM, UH, OVERHEAD UTILITY WIRE, AND REMOVE THE UTILITY POLES IN THE BACKYARD.
THERE'S ALSO AN EXISTING, UH, CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD IT IS, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S RUSTY PARTS OF IT ARE FALLING OVER.
IT'S, UH, IT'S UNSIGHTLY, AND WE'RE GONNA REMOVE THAT AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION THAT'S ON FRONT CLUB'S PROPERTY.
AND FOR THE, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T IMMEDIATELY CONTAINED BY THE WALLS TO THE SOUTH, UM, WE'RE GONNA ADD A, UM, UH, A FENCING A, UH, A SOLID FENCING TO PROVIDE A, A VISUAL, UH, MITIGATION SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE NEIGHBORS, UH, DON'T HAVE A VIEW INTO, UM, THE CEMETERY AT EYE LEVEL.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD REPRESENTED TO US THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT UNSETTLING WHEN THEY WOULD LOOK OUT THE REAR OF THEIR, THEIR, THEIR WINDOWS AND SEE SOMEONE WALKING RECEPTIVELY THROUGH THEIR BACKYARD, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ON FRONT CLOSE'S PROPERTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN JUST CREATE A BETTER FEEL OF PRIVACY BACK THERE FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS CAN ACHIEVE AS WELL.
UM, SO, UM, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN OVERVIEW OF, OF THIS, UH, APPLICATION.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD WITH THE TIME THAT WE HAVE LEFT THIS EVENING.
UH, AND OF COURSE, UH, MR. CABLE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DESIGN THAT MAY, MAY COME UP.
UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, I'M HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO OPEN THE DISCUSSION.
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT FIRST I'LL LET, UH, ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS SPEAK FIRST.
UH, I, I WAS THERE YESTERDAY, BUT, UH, ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, JUST HAVE ONE ON, UM, THE SIDE WHERE YOU HAVE THE HIGH RETAINING WALL JAM.
UM, IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF PE UH, PEOPLE LOOKING DOWN INTO, INTO, UH, THE CEMETERY OR, OR VICE VERSA, IF SOMEONE'S ON TOP OF THE RETAINING WALL, CAN THEY LOOK INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S YARDS? I, UH, MR. SCHWARTZ, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'D BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
I'M GONNA SHOW THIS, UH, THIS RENDERING.
THIS IS A HIGHER QUALITY VERSION THAT'S, UH, SIDE OF THE PRESENTATION.
SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S A 15 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR ALL MONUMENTS THAT ARE OVER ONE FOOT IN HEIGHT FOR ALL CEMETERIES IN GREENBURG, SO THAT, THAT SETBACK IS MET HERE FOR ALL OF THESE MONUMENTS.
AND EVERYTHING BEHIND THE MONUMENTS ON THE, THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE IS GONNA BE ESSENTIALLY A, A PLANTED LANDSCAPE BED HERE, AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE THE WALL AND THERE'S GONNA BE A, A SAFETY FE, AN ORNAMENTAL SAFETY FENCE ON TOP OF THAT WALL.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO PEER DOWN INTO, UM, OKAY, THIS ADJACENT PROPERTY.
I BROUGHT IT UP WHEN WE ARE THERE, IF YOU GO BACK, IF YOU GO I GUESS NORTH
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UPWARD, I DON'T KNOW, WHICH IS THAT NORTH GO FURTHER NORTH, IS THAT NORTH IS OKAY, THIS WOULD BE EAST.YOU GO FURTHER EAST AT THE, UH, AT WHERE YOU'RE PLANTING END, THERE ARE SEVERAL HOMES BEHIND THAT.
AND THE TREES THERE RARELY ARE IN TERRIBLE CONDITION.
WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN EXTEND EITHER LANDSCAPING OR FENCING THERE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DO NOT DIRECTLY FACE THE CEMETERY, BUT THE TREES THAT YOU HAVE THERE ARE REALLY IN BAD CONDITION.
AND YOU HAVE, I THINK, MAYBE TWO OR THREE HOMES THAT FACE THAT.
I THINK THAT COULD BE SOMETHING COULD BE DONE FOR THOSE THREE HOMEOWNERS.
WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THE, UH, THE SCREENING THERE IS, IS, IS, IS VERY LACKING.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WILL, UH, TAKE THAT BACK TO, UH, UH, FERNCLIFF, THE APPLICANT.
UM, UH, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN RECEPTIVE TO PROVIDING SCREENING AND PLANTINGS.
UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA SPEAK WITH THEM ON THAT FIRST, BUT I, I DON'T, I DON'T, THAT'S AN ISSUE.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY, UH, BOARD MEMBERS? WALTER? WALTER, I HAVE A QUESTION.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA MAINTAIN THE, THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE WALL AND, UH, NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY? THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT IS ENTIRELY ON RN CLIFF'S PROPERTY.
IT IS IN THEIR, IT WILL BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THAT.
UM, FERNCLIFF HAS, UH, EXTENSIVE, UH, LANDSCAPING STAFF.
UH, WE SAW IT YESTERDAY, UM, THAT, UH, TAKES CARE OF THE 64 ACRES AND THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS PORTION OF IT.
BUT DO YOU HAVE A, SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE A ONLY SIX FEET WIDE, HOW THEY GOING TO TAKE THEIR, EVEN WHEELBARROW OR ANY OTHER THINGS TO REPLACE, UH, PLANT MAINTAIN? THE THINGS I THINK, UH, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED INCREASING THIS THING? SO THERE IS A, UH, KIND OF ENOUGH ROOM TO, FOR THEM TO GO BEHIND THE WALL, PARTICULARLY WHERE THE WALL IS ABOUT 12 FEET HIGH.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE MEANS AND METHODS OF THE LANDSCAPING PERSONNEL, BUT, UH, FRANK CLIFF IS CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN MAINTAIN THIS IN A GOOD CONDITION, AND THEY WILL BE HELD TO THAT BY WHATEVER, UH, RESOLUTION AND CONDITIONS ARE, UH, ARE, UH, DEEMED APPROPRIATE HERE.
AND I, I THINK, UM, TO KNOW MAYBE, UH, AND, UH, QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW WHAT THE, WHERE THE ACCESS POINT IS, UM, PERHAPS JAMES, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY
SO IF THAT ULTIMATELY HAS TO BE A SECURE GATE THAT PROVIDES WORKERS WITH THAT, COULD WE OKAY.
COULD WE, UH, UH, NOTE THAT AS A POINT OF CONCERN? AND WHEN YOU GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING, GIVE A, A MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION OF EXACTLY HOW THAT AREA WILL BE ABLE TO BE MAINTAINED, SEEING HOW IT'S ONLY SIX FEET AS, UH, IDE UH, UH, INDICATED.
SO JUST POINT OUT THE LOGISTICS THAT WOULD, UH, BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? IF NOT, MONA HAS ONE.
UM, UH, JAMES SPOKE ABOUT, UM, NEW FENCING TO BE PUT UP.
I WANNA KNOW HOW FAR ALONG THAT FENCING WILL EXTEND, BECAUSE THAT THE OPEN WIRE FENCING THAT WE SAW GOES STRAIGHT BACK, UM, FURTHER THAN WHERE THE WALL IS GOING TO BE.
AND AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE TREES DON'T COVER IT, AND IT REALLY IS NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.
MUCH FURTHER DOWN, YOU KNOW, THE FENCE FENCING IS FALLING DOWN FOR THE OTHER NEIGHBORS AS WELL AND NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
SO HOW FAR BACK DID THEY INTEND TO REPLACE THE FENCING? BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE INTERESTED AND, UH, DID, UH, DID ENGAGE US, UM, THE FENCING IS GONNA BE REMOVED, UH, AS IT IS NOW.
THIS CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT ANOTHER SOLUTION.
THIS WOULD, IT'S GONNA BE REMOVED FROM THE, THE PORTION OF THE RETAINING WALL HERE, BECAUSE THE WALL IS GONNA, AND THE LANDSCAPING IS GONNA TAKE THE PLACE OF THE FENCE AND BE REMOVED ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE.
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CONTINUE TO, UM, 1 91 AND 180 5 FOREST BOULEVARD, WHICH IS THE TWO, UM, WESTERLY PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THIS.UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT, THE GRADE, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY DROPS OFF EVEN MORE.
AND THERE'S JUST NO, THE VISUAL, UH, IMPACT FOR THEM IS, IS IN EXISTS, IS, DOESN'T EXIST FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE INTENT, UH, AS OF NOW WAS TO REMOVE IT ALONG THE PORTION OF THE NEW WALL AND LANDSCAPING AND THE TWO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE WEST.
ADDITIONAL QUESTION BY BOARD MEMBERS, UM, IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, WALTER, I HAVE A QUESTION.
IS THERE ANY LIGHTING OR, OR THERE IS NO LIGHTING ALONG THE RETAINING WALL, A LIGHTING ALONG WHERE, I GUESS ANY PORTION OF THE PROJECT? NO.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO LIGHTING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT, UM, AT ALL.
WHAT ARE THE HOURS FOR VISITING? YES.
UM, I BELIEVE THE GATES ARE OPEN BY PERSONNEL BETWEEN SEVEN 30 AND 8:00 AM AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW, UH, EXACTLY WHEN THEY'RE CLOSED IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT, UH, IT IS, I CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT'S, IT IS, UH, SECURED OVERNIGHT.
THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS THERE, IS THERE ANY EXPANSION, UH, IN THE OPEN, UH, AREAS THAT YOU HAVE OR THAT'S, THAT'S IT.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THIS PLAN ON THE SCREEN, THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF, THAT'S THE FULL EXTENT, THE FULL BUILD OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR, OKAY.
UM, BUT LIKE AT THE CEMETERY, THERE'S ALWAYS ONGOING OPENING UP OTHER SECTIONS AS THE NEED ARRIVE.
SO IT IS, THAT'S THE WAY CEMETERIES WORK UNTIL THEY RUN OUT OF LAND.
BUT WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THIS AREA OF, OF LAND, AND I'M QUITE SURE IN THE FUTURE AS THEY RUN OUT OF LAND, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER APPLICATION.
I THINK WE HAVE, UH, WE COULD WRAP THIS UP AND WE'LL PUT THIS ON FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY, UH, UH, 19TH PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
I THINK YOU'D WANT YOU, WALTER, YOU MUTED YOURSELF, BUT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, OH, THAT MAY HAVE ME, I'M SORRY.
PUBLIC HEARING AND DISCUSSION ON MAY, UH, 19TH.
I'LL ALSO, JUST BECAUSE THE QUESTION CAME UP, UH, I CHECKED THEIR WEBSITE, 9:00 AM TO 4:00 PM OR IT'S FOR, FOR CLIFF'S HOURS.
GENERALLY BOTH CEMETERIES ARE CLOSED BY FIVE O'CLOCK TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
I APOLOGIZE FOR RUNNING A LITTLE LATE.
I'M QUITE SURE I WILL HEAR FROM OUR, UH, VICE CHAIR ABOUT RUNNING A LITTLE LATE.
UH, BOARD MEMBERS AND JAMES, IF YOU COULD STOP THE, THE SHARE SCREEN, THAT'D BE GREAT.
UM, YEAH, I'M GONNA HEAR IT FROM MY WIFE ACTUALLY BECAUSE IT'S HER BIRTHDAY, BUT THAT'S FINE.
UM, UH, I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER DUQUE JUST BRIEFLY WANTED ME TO MENTION THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NO PROBLEM THAT, UH, WE COULDN'T GET TO THE BEST, UH, DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, BUT HE DID WANT TO JUST REMIND BOARD MEMBERS THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING WITH RESPECT TO THE DRAFT LOCAL LAW, UM, PLEASE EMAIL IN QUESTIONS OR WE CAN ARRANGE TO HAVE A ZOOM OR A PHONE CONFERENCE WITH BOARD MEMBERS TO DISCUSS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE FURTHER AT THE NEXT MEETING, UH, OR PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING, UH, COMMISSIONER DUQUESNE INTENDS TO PROVIDE THE BOARD MEMBERS WITH ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN FROM OTHER AGENCIES WITH RESPECT TO THIS LOCAL LAW.
SO YOU CAN EXPECT THAT IN THE NEAR TERM.
IN, IN TERMS OF TERMS OF, UH, ZOOM MEETINGS, NOW WE COULD HAVE, BUT IT COULD NOT BE MORE THAN THREE MEMBERS OF THE, UH, OF THE BOARD AT A TIME SPEAKING TO GARRETT ON A ZOOM MEETING, ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
IS THAT CORRECT? YOU CAN HAVE, YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS, PHONE CONVERSATIONS, YEAH.
UH, YOU CANNOT HAVE A MEETING OF THE BOARD.
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A QUORUM OF FOUR OR MORE.SO WE COULD HAVE INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION AND IF AT ZOOM, ZOOM MEETINGS OF NO MORE THAN THREE CAN BE ARRANGED TO ASK GARRETT QUESTIONS, IT WOULD BE NO.
IT'S NO MORE, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE IN, IN PERSON.
CAN WE DO A SPECIAL MEETING JUST ON BES? YOU'D HAVE TO NOTICE THE MEETING IF THE, IF THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD WISHES TO DO THAT.
UM, THAT'S PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT IF WE WANT TO, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OFFLINE.
LET, LET'S, LET'S DO, LET'S, THERE, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OFFLINE.
IF THERE IS ENOUGH, UH, BOARD MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, THEN I WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEN WE COULD DO THAT.
ALSO, I TELL YOU WASN'T, WASN'T THE, UH, SEMINAR, THE FIRST SEMINAR TODAY DURING OUR PLANNING BOARD MEETING, COULD, IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT IF WE CAN GET A, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ONE, UH, IN TERMS OF US HELPING US WITH THE BEST LAW.
AARON, IF GARY CAN DO ANYTHING TO GET THAT RECORDING TO US, A S A P, IT'D BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
YEAH, I, I ASKED THE SAME THING OF PATRICIA TODAY.
AND THE COMMISSIONER SENT AN EMAIL TO THOSE FOLKS ASKING IF THE, UH, SESSIONS WOULD BE RECORDED SO THAT WE COULD SHARE WITH PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAVE COMMITMENTS WITH PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS.
SO, UH, I DIDN'T SEE THAT THERE WAS A RESPONSE, BUT I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH GARRETT ON THAT.
UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE GET THEM TO YOU AS SOON AS THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE NEXT MEETING, JUST, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT, UH, THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT A SPECIAL MEETING, UM, RIGHT NOW I HAVE THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS ON THE 19TH.
I HAVE THE PLANNING BOARD CONSIDERING A DECISION ON THE 1818 MOUNT PLEASANT LANE PROJECT.
UM, THEN WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS SLASH PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE THE JUUJITSU STUDIO THAT WAS ON THIS EVENING.
WE HAVE 14 ROCK HILL LANE, WHICH HAS MADE ITS SUBMISSION.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE FERNCLIFFE WHAT ABOUT CAPTAIN LAWRENCE? CAPTAIN LAWRENCE ALSO, ADMITTEDLY, TENTATIVELY WE HAVE CAPTAIN LAWRENCE, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SUBMISSION MATERIALS FROM THEM FOLLOWING THE, THE PRIOR WORK SESSION, WHICH WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE.
SO AS SOON AS I GET THOSE, MY JOB IS TO REPORT THAT THAT'S GOTTA BE TOO MUCH WITH THE BATTERY AS THE OWNER'S FACE.
WE, WE NEED LEAST, AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED IT, ALTHOUGH JEFFERS AND SIMON SAID THAT THE BEST WOULD BE DISCUSSED FIRST.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THROUGH THROUGH THE AGENDA.
'CAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT LEAST AN HOUR, I THINK.
THAT'S WHY, UH, THAT'S WHY I HAD PUT, I TAKEN IN ABOUT AN HOUR.
SO IF CAPTAIN LAWRENCE DID NOT GIVE YOU, OR NOW WHAT ABOUT 14 ROCK HILL DID THEY GIVE YOU? THEY DID.
SO THAT'S THE CASE THEN WE'LL JUST HAVE TO TAKE, UH, CAPTAIN LAWRENCE OFF AND THEN YEAH, BUT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS THE JUDO, THE JUJITSU THING, THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY COULD COME OUT.
I ALSO, THERE COULD BE A LONGER THING THAN, YOU KNOW.
CAN I, CAN I MAKE ONE OTHER SUGGESTION? YEAH, YEAH.
AND THAT, AND THAT IS TO INVESTIGATE UNLESS, UH, INVESTIGATE THE IDEA OF WITH WHETHER THEY MIGHT, UM, AGREE TO PUT THEM THAT OFF, UH, UH, FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS.
AND THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THE TIME.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO GONNA, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG WELL THING.
WE MAKE A DECISION RIGHT NOW SEEING HOW CAPTAIN LAWRENCE IS NOT THERE.
WE REMOVE IT AND THEN WE ALSO WILL, UH, DISCUSS WITH FERNCLIFF IF THEY WISH, YOU KNOW, CAN THEY MOVE THEIRS.
BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO MOVING, THOSE ARE THE TWO, ONE OR TWO CAN BE REMOVED AND THAT WOULD LEAVE US ONLY WITH TWO ISSUES FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS COMING UP, UP FOR THAT MEETING? AARON? NO.
I, I, I WOULD NOT SCHEDULE ANYTHING FURTHER.
SO, NO, WE, UH, I JUST WON'T SCHEDULE IT.
SO, SO, AND, AND ALL THE MORE REASON TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO SET SOMETHING UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU WANNA SET UP A ZOOM OR A PHONE CONFERENCE WITH, WITH GARRETT AND OR MYSELF OR ANOTHER MEMBER, PERHAPS WE ARE HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT IT'S GONNA, AARON, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE TO BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION OF THIS BOARD.
I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO DO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL, TRY TO STAY, DON'T GET TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS.
REMEMBER THIS IS GOING BACK, BACK TO THE, BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD AT SOME POINT.
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I MEAN, IF, KEEP IT TO THE BIG CONCEPTS THAT THERE ARE LITTLE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WRITE DOWN THE QUESTION AND WE'LL PUT IT IN THE RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT THEY SHOULD LOOK AT IT.BUT I REAL, IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO GET THIS THING MOVING BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE ZONING BOARD.
I I, I THINK, YEAH, I TOTALLY AGREE.
I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO DO IS TO REALLY F FOCUS ON WHERE ARE THE AREAS OF CONCERN AS OPPOSED TO SAYING THAT IT SHOULD BE, UH, ONE 50 FEET DISTANCE VERSUS 100 FEET.
BUT IT SHOULD BE, UH, BROADER ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE AREAS OF CONCERN, WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE TRAINED PROPERLY OR AS OPPOSED TO SAYING THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE MEETING AT SUCH AND SUCH A DATE AND DO, YOU KNOW, BUT FOCUS ON THE AREAS OF CONCERN THAT WE FEEL THAT THE, UH, THE TOWN BOARD NEED TO ADDRESS AS TO VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HOPE WOULD COME OUT OF THIS.
BUT AS A STAND NOW, UH, THIS IS DEFINITELY ON FOR WORK SESSION.
AND WE, AND WE, I WILL REMOVE EITHER, UH, EITHER OR BOTH.
CAPTAIN LAWRENCE AND FERNCLIFF.
I'LL REMOVE BOTH UNLESS, WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK WITH FERNCLIFF.
YEAH, WE'LL GIVE THEM A FIRM DATE.
SO TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME.
SORRY TO KEEP YOU EVERYONE LATE.
HAVE A GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU MR. BODEN, FOR YOUR INPUT.
YOU SEE, UH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED THAT, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE INPUT AND YOU HAVE AN APPLICATION, UH, APPLICANT WHO FULLY AGREED.
AND HAPPY AARON'S WIFE'S BIRTHDAY.