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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD FINAL AGENDA WEDNESDAY, May 19, 2021 – 5:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 8:00 p.m. ]
UH, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE WEDNESDAY MAY 19TH PLANNING BOARD.UH, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? SURE.
JUST WAITING ON MR. DESAI AT THIS POINT.
SO WHEN HE COMES IN, YOU COULD MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.
THE FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF WEDNESDAY, MAY THE FIFTH.
UM, DO ANYONE HAVE ANY, UH, CORRECTIONS? SO ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES OF, UH, MAY 5TH.
I HAD ONE SMALL COMMENT AT THE VERY END, UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BESS.
I THINK JUST TO MENTION THAT, I THINK IT WAS MONA, UM, SUGGESTED OR REQUESTED A SPECIAL MEETING, WHICH WAS WHY WE ENDED UP DOING IT.
I THINK IT SHOULD GO ON THE RECORD THAT IT WAS DISCUSSED AND BROUGHT UP.
YEAH, I THINK IT SHOULD GO ON THE RECORD THAT MONA MADE US WORK AN EXTRA NIGHT.
I THINK THAT SHOULD GO ON THE RECORD.
SO WHERE, WHERE SHOULD THAT BE INJECTED INTO THE MINUTES? UM, UH, IT'S AT THE END, WALTER, WHEN WE TALK.
ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS? IF NOT, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS, UH, UH, CORRECTED.
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO, UH, UM, THERE IS, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE GOT CORRESPONDENCE, BUT THEY ARE RELATED TO SPECIFIC APPLICATIONS THAT WE WILL HAVE, UH, WILL COME UP IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THEY WILL COME, THEY'LL BE PART OF, OF THAT RECORD.
SO WE DO NOT NEED TO DISCUSS THOSE SPECIFIC, UH, UH, CORRESPONDENCE AT THIS POINT.
UH, SO I'D LIKE TO GO DIRECTLY INTO THE PROPOSED, UH, UH, UM, DECISION ON PB 2101, THAT'S 18 MOUNT PLEASANT LANE.
WE, I I CAN GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON THAT IF YOU WISH.
IS, IS THIS NO, WE NEED TO DO, THAT'S, UH, UNLISTED ACTION IN THE NEXT DECK.
WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT, DO WE NOT? SO, SO WE ACTUALLY, IT DOES QUALIFY AS A TYPE TWO, AND SO THEREFORE WE DIDN'T PREPARE A DRAFT N DECK, BUT, UM, I'LL JUST QUICKLY GIVE A, A QUICK OVERVIEW AND THEN, UH, LEAD YOU IN RIGHT INTO THE VOTES.
SO, AGAIN, AS CHAIRPERSON SIMON MENTIONED, UH, PROJECT IS CASE NUMBER PPP 21 DASH ZERO ONE, LOCATED AT 18 MOUNT PLEASANT LANE IRVINGTON IN THE R TEN ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT SEEK STEEP SLOPE AND FREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
APPROVALS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD PROJECT INVOLVES THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW IN-GROUND POOL AND SPA, AS WELL AS DECKING AND A PATHWAY LEADING FROM THE HOUSE TO THE POOL AND SPA AREA.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE REMOVAL OF ONE REGULATED TREE AND IS PREPARED A LANDSCAPING PLAN PROVIDING FOR THE PLANTING OF SEVERAL TREES AND VARIOUS SHRUBS AS REPLACEMENT PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS MATTER AT ITS MAY 5TH MEETING AS PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED SINCE THE PUBLIC HEARING STAFF IS PREPARED TO DRAFT DECISION FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
BEFORE CONSIDERING THIS DECISION, THE PROJECT DOES QUALIFY AS A TYPE TWO ACTION, AS I MENTIONED TO UNDER SEEKER, AND THE BOARD MAY WISH TO VOTE UPON THAT AT THIS TIME.
UM, I'LL MAKE, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT MR. DESAI IS HERE NOW.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS BE QUALIFIED AS A TYPE TWO ACTION ON THE CICA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MR. HAY? SECONDED.
SO, UH, THE OTHER THING IS I MAKE A MOTION THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, UM, CLASSIFY THIS AS NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
IT'S UNNECESSARY 'CAUSE IT'S A TYPE TWO.
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INTO THE DECISIONS WHICH ARE FOR STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FIRST, AND THEN TREE REMOVAL PERMIT SECOND.JUST ASK EVERYONE TO KEEP YOUR MICS MUTED.
ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DRAFT DECISION NOW? THERE WERE NO SPECIAL, UH, CONDITIONS.
IS THAT I, I COULD SEE IN THERE.
IS THAT CORRECT, DARREN? THERE'S THE ONLY, THE ONLY SITE SPECIFIC CONDITION THAT I DID HIGHLIGHT WAS THE FACT THAT, UH, WE WANT THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE AN AS-BUILT PLAN TO BOTH OUR OFFICE AND THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING, UM, ONCE THE PROJECT'S COMPLETED, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE AN ACCURATE RECORD OF WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BUILT.
AND SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE PLANTINGS.
YOU MAY RECALL THAT THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT CITING CERTAIN PLANTINGS THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE DID COORDINATE WITH THAT NEIGHBOR.
AND THEY'RE GONNA DO THEIR BEST TO TRY AND ACCOMMODATE, BUT SITE CONDITIONS MAY, MAY BE PROHIBITED, UH, PROHIBITIVE.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST WANT THAT ASBUILT PLAN FOR THAT.
DOES IT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO ADD THAT, THAT, UH, PAR I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ADDING IN ALL APPROVAL LETTERS AND THAT REQUIRING THAT AS BUILT? I CAN'T SEE THAT IT HURTS, SO I THINK THAT MAY MAKE SENSE.
ARE WE, UH, ALRIGHT, UH, UH, UH, HUG.
THIS CAME UP BECAUSE THE CURRENT OWNER, UH, UH, SAID THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER NEVER, UH, UH, PLACED, UH, NEVER APPLIED OR NEVER FILED, RATHER, THE AS BUILT SPECIFICATIONS.
SO THE CURRENT OWNER DIDN'T HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE TO THEM.
SO THAT'S WHY WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE DONE ONCE, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO IT.
BUT GOING BACK TO YOUR STATEMENT THAT WE SHOULD PUT IT IN ALL, I, I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULD NOT DO IT.
I, I WOULD, SO THIS, THE, WERE STEEP SLOPE PERIMETERS, WE'RE AT, UH, AARON, I'LL MOVE THAT, THAT WE APPROVE THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FOR THIS PROJECT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE THE TREE, UH, REMOVAL PERMIT.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
SO THIS APP, UH, THIS APPLICATION IS ACCRUED.
UM, NOW ONE OF, UH, NOW WHAT I WANT YOU, UH, WHAT I, I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO MOVE, UH, UM, THE BEST TO, UH, DISCUSS THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE ON THIS, THE, AND THE, MY LOGIC FOR DOING THAT IS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT TONIGHT.
WHAT IT IS, IS TO, UH, GARRETT SENT OUT A, A, A LATEST SUMMARY OF THE IDEAS THAT, UH, UH, THAT WAS INTENDED TO CAPTURE, UH, UH, THE, THE POSITION OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST TO REVIEW THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY THINGS THAT HE MISSED, HIGHLIGHT THAT AND THEN, UH, WITH THAT INFORMATION AND, AND, UH, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE FINISHED DOCUMENT FOR VOTING ON UNTIL JUNE 2ND MEETING.
AND WHAT WILL THAT WILL DO IS GIVE, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT 10 DAYS, BECAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO GO OUT AND PACK IT ON THAT FRIDAY.
SO PROBABLY WE'LL HAVE TO COME IN ON THAT WEDNESDAY.
SO THEY'LL GIVE THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, UH, AT LEAST ANOTHER WEEK OR NINE DAYS TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT, AT, UH, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE, YOU HAVE RECEIVED SO FAR.
AND IF THERE ARE ANY DOCUMENTS THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE OR DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THAT, GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL TIME TO DO THAT, AND THEN YOU, AND THEN TO FOLLOW, UH, FORWARD ANY ADDITIONAL POINTS, UH, UH, OR, UH, TO GARRETT.
SO BY THE TIME HE IS, UH, UH, WRITING UP THE DRAFT FOR US, UH, WE WOULD HAVE, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE THREE OCCASIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE DISCUSSED THIS POINT.
UH, WE WOULD HAVE ALLOWED SUFFICIENT TIME FOR ALL BOARD MEMBERS TO READ ALL THE DOCUMENT.
SO WE SHOULD BE IN A STRONG POSITION TO BE ABLE
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TO MAKE A DECISION ON JUNE 2ND.SO THAT'S MY OBJECTIVE, THAT WE HAVE ALL THE NECESSARY DATA SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON JUNE 2ND.
SO IF ANY BOARD MEMBERS, UH, NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, OR, OR THEY DIDN'T GET THE INFORMATION THAT THEY REQUIRED, PLEASE CONTACT GARRETT AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION SO YOU COULD BE PREPARED TO MAKE A DECISION ON, UM, JUNE 2ND.
WITH THAT SAID, IS, IS GARRETT HERE? NO, HE'S NOT.
UM, IT WAS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DISCUSSION OF THIS TOPIC WOULD NOT TAKE PLACE THIS EVENING, BUT RATHER, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATION AND REPORT, UM, FIGURING THAT BOARD MEMBERS WOULD NEED TIME TO LOOK THAT OVER AND, AND, AND TO COME TO DECISIONS WITH RESPECT TO ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
UM, THAT IT WOULD NOT BE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING, BUT IF BOARD MEMBERS AFTER REVIEWING THOSE MATERIALS HAD QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT THEY REACH OUT TO GARRETT.
AND I BELIEVE HE SENT AN EMAIL, UH, THIS AFTERNOON INDICATING THAT THAT WOULD, THOSE WERE HER, HIS INTENTIONS.
OH, I, I BELIEVE ALSO THAT IN ONE OF HIS EMAILS, HE, HE SAID HE WOULD BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE OR OR TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING.
WITH THAT SAID, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, AND, AND AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO JUST, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT MAKING DECISION ON IT.
JUST IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPEN ISSUES OR QUESTIONS WE MAY HAVE, THEN WE COULD, UH, SHOOT THAT OFF TO GARRETT.
SO, UH, NOW THAT WE'RE GOING INTO PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE NEED ANOTHER, UH, UH, UH, ROLL CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UH, REMIND THE PUBLIC, UH, OF HOW WE CONDUCT, UH, THE PUBLIC, UH, HEARINGS.
UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT STATEMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, TO REINFORCE THE, THE ROLE OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
UH, WE DO NOT HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON, ON THE HOW LONG YOU COULD SPEAK, BUT THE KEY POINT IS THAT YOUR BRIEF, YOU STATE YOUR POINT ONCE WON'T REPEAT YOURSELF.
AND IF SOMEONE ALREADY STATED THAT POINT, JUST COME UP AND SAY, I AGREE WITH MR. SO AND SO, OR MRS. SO AND SO.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, YOU SAY, I AGREE WITH THE LAST SPEAKER, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AND THEN YOU ADD NEW INFORMATION.
SO PEOPLE COMING TO SPEAK SHOULD EITHER, EITHER OR, UH, UH, CONFIRMING THAT THEY AGREE WITH A PREVIOUS SPEAKER OR PROVIDING NEW INFORMATION.
AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME, BUT WHEN I FEEL THAT, UH, UH, YOU MADE YOUR POINT AND YOU'RE GOING AND CONTINUE TO GO ON, I WILL ASK YOU TO WRAP UP.
WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF WITH OUR FIRST CASE, PB 2016.
SO, UH, LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION TO THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE THAT MR. CATONE, WHO REPRESENTS THE APPLICANT WAS YET ON THE MEETING.
UH, IF I'M INCORRECT, IF YOU WOULD JUST IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
IF NOT, IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
CHAIRPERSON SIMON, WHICH IS THE FERNCLIFF CEMETERY PROJECT.
BUT IF HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT ON FOR, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT ON JUST YET.
SO WHAT WE'LL GO TO FE UH, FE WE'LL GO AND THEN WE'LL COME, WE'LL DOUBLE BACK AFTER.
WE'LL MAKE THE CAPTAIN LAWRENCE LAST AND WE'LL GO TO FERNCLIFF, THEN 14 ROCK HILL AND THEN, UH, UH, CENTRAL
AND THEN WE WILL SWING BACK AROUND TO CAPTAIN LAWRENCE.
SO, UH, THE NEXT CASE ON THE AGENDA IS CASE NUMBER
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TB 21 DASH ZERO SEVEN PB 21 DASH ZERO FIVE FERNCLIFF CEMETERY, LOCATED AT TWO 80 CCO ROAD, PO HARTSDALE AND THE R 31 FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT.THE APPLICANT SEEKS AN AMENDED SITE PLAN TOWN BOARD APPROVAL WITH A REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD, A TOWN BOARD TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, AND A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FOR A PROPOSAL INVOLVING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PORTION OF THE FERNCLIFF CEMETERY PROPERTY TO CONSTRUCT VARIOUS CRIPS AND BURIAL VAULTS ON PREVIOUSLY UNDEVELOPED CEMETERY LAND WITH RELATED RETAINING WALLS AND LANDSCAPING.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE REMOVAL OF APPROXIMATELY 50 REGULATED TREES REQUIRING A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE TOWN BOARD AND HAS PREPARED A LANDSCAPING PLAN PROVIDING FOR THE PLANTING OF SEVERAL TREES, SHRUBS, AND GROUND COVERS AS REPLACEMENT.
IT WAS MOST RECENTLY, THIS SITE WAS MOST RECENTLY THE SUBJECT OF AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AS PART OF CASE NUMBER TB 1922, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD ON FEBRUARY 12TH, 2020.
THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT WAS LAST DISCUSSED BY THE PLANNING BOARD AT ITS MAY 5TH MEETING, WHERE THE BOARD RAISED QUESTIONS AND REQUESTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT THIS EVENING AND FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT OUTLINED, PROPOSED REVISIONS, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE.
WE NOTE THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE JAMES CARRIS.
EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS JAMES CARRIS, PROJECT MANAGER AND PLANNER WITH J M C SITE DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANTS HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF FRANKLIN CLIFF CEMETERY ASSOCIATION.
UM, ALSO WITH ME THIS EVENING TO, UM, SHED LIGHT ON ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS IS, UH, MR. DAN CABLE FROM E D A LAND PLANNING, UH, WHO PREPARED THE, UH, LANDSCAPING AND, UM, DESIGN OF THE SITE.
UM, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO, UH, SHARE MY SCREEN AND, UH, GIVE A A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
UM, MUCH OF THIS INFORMATION IS, UH, THE SAME FROM WHAT WAS PRESENTED TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT, UH, IF THERE'S ANYONE LISTENING THAT'S INTERESTED, I THINK THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UH, MR. CARAS, JUST BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING, I DO WANT YOU TO, UH, MAKE SURE YOU DOT YOUR I'S AND CROSS YOUR T'S.
CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN JUST COMING UP, JAMES? YES.
SO LET'S JUST GET RIGHT INTO IT.
UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS FRANKLIN CLIFF CEMETERY.
UM, THIS IS A, A WELL-ESTABLISHED CEMETERY LOCATED ALONG SEACO ROAD, UM, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
UM, IT IS APPROXIMATELY 64 ACRES INSIDE ON THE NORTH PARCEL, LONG RECTANGULAR SHAPED PROPERTY.
AND IT COM IS COMPRISED OF, UH, EXTENSIVE, UH, EXISTING GROUND, UM, MEMORIALS, GROUND BURIALS, AND THREE, UH, EXISTING MAUSOLEUM BUILDINGS, UH, THAT ARE PRETTY WELL KNOWN.
UH, THE, THE ORIGINAL FERNCLIFFE MAUSOLEUM TO THE WEST, UH, THE NEWER ROSEWOOD MAUSOLEUM IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE.
AND, UH, THE SHRINE OF MEMORIES, UM, WHICH WAS THE SUBJECT OF THAT PREVIOUS, UH, TOWN BOARD APPLICATION.
MOST RECENTLY, THE AREA OF, UH, THE HILLCREST WEST, UH, DEVELOPMENT SITE IS, UH, CENTRALLY AND NORTHERLY LOCATED ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE OUTLINED IN THIS AREA IN RED HERE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY, UH, 0.8 ACRES IN SIZE.
AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED THERE IS, UH, NEW, UH, GROUND BURIALS.
UM, WE ARE SEEKING, UH, TOWN BOARD AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THIS, UH, ACTION.
UH, WE'RE ALSO SEEKING A PLANNING BOARD POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.
UH, WE ALSO ARE SEEKING A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
AND WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WE WERE REFERRED, UH, FROM THE TOWN BOARD TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION.
UM, WE HAD A PUBLICLY NOTICED, UM, NEIGHBOR INFORMATIONAL MEETING VIA ZOOM, UM, BACK IN MARCH WITH WHICH WE, UH, UM, SPOKE WITH THREE INTERESTED NEIGHBORS AND ONE, UM, INTERESTED, UM, REPRESENTATIVE FROM A CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
UH, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, ON MARCH 17TH, WE HAD A SITE VISIT WITH, UH, THOSE INTERESTED NEIGHBORS TO, UH, TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY, UM, UH, THINGS WE COULD DO TO MITIGATE, UH, SOME VISUAL, UM, CONCERNS THAT THEY MAY HAVE HAD.
AND ON APRIL 28TH, THE APPLICATION WAS REFERRED TO THE PLANNING BOARD, AND ON MAY 4TH, WE HAD AN UNOFFICIALLY NOTICED, UM, PLANNING BOARD SITE WALK WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH, UH, I THINK FOUR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND TWO WEEKS AGO ON THE FIFTH, WE ATTENDED THE WORK SESSION.
UM, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT WORK SESSION, WE SUBMITTED, UM, SOME SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION, WHICH I'LL GO OVER THIS EVENING.
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AND TONIGHT WE'RE HERE MAY 19TH FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE CORRECTION.
YOU MET WITH FOUR MEMBERS, BUT YOU MET WITH THREE, AND THEN LATER YOU MET WITH ONE, SO YOU DID NOT MEET WITH FOUR AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE A PUBLIC NOTICE.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT YOU MET WITH THREE AND THEN LATER THAT DAY YOU MET WITH ONE OTHER.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS A RENDERING SITE PLAN VIEW OF THE PROPOSED ACTION.
UM, NORTH, THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE IS, UH, TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE HERE.
AND WHAT THIS CONSISTS OF IS, UM, A PROPOSED UPPER BURIAL AREA, UM, SURROUNDED BY EXISTING GROUND BURIALS TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN A LOWER, UM, BURIAL AREA, UM, WHICH IS DIVIDED BY, UH, THE INSTALLATION OF THIS NORTH SOUTH RETAINING WALL.
UM, THE REASON FOR THE RETAINING WALLS, UM, ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE AND BETWEEN THE UPPER AND LOWER AREAS IS BECAUSE THERE IS SOME GRAY CHANGE, THE SITE SLOPES, UM, DOWN FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THERE IS EXTENSIVE, UM, LANDSCAPING PLANTINGS ALONG, UM, ALL SIDES OF THE RETAINING WALLS, INCLUDING, UM, EXTENSIVE, UH, SCREENING AND PLANTINGS ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINES SHARED WITH OUR FOREST BOULEVARD NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH.
UM, LET'S JUST TALK QUICKLY, JUST SOME NUMBERS HERE.
UM, THERE WILL BE, UM, APPROXIMATELY 717, UM, LAWN CRYPTS, WHICH ARE VAULTS PLACED INTO THE GROUND FOR FUTURE INTERNMENTS.
UM, 57 LAWN CRYPT ESTATES, WHICH ARE AVAILABLE FOR, UM, FAMILY, UM, LONG-TERM PLANNING, UM, AND 18 CREMATION STATES FOR ESTATES FOR OUTDOOR INTERNMENT OF CREMATED REMAINS.
AND AS I MENTIONED, EXTENSIVE INTERIOR AND PROPERTY LINE LANDSCAPING.
UM, THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES ARE A FEW, UM, UH, THREE D RENDERINGS THAT WERE PREPARED BY E D A LAND PLANNING, UM, TO, TO BRING THIS, UH, PROJECT TO LIGHT.
THIS IS AN EXISTING IN INTERIOR ACCESS ROAD IN FE CLIFFS PROPERTY.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE RETAINING WALLS, THE EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING ALONG EITHER SIDE OF THE WALLS, UM, AND THE LAWN BURIALS, UH, IN THE LOWER AREA HERE, THE UPPER AREA IN THE, THE FOREGROUND.
AND THEN THE, UH, THE FAMILY ESTATES, UH, ALONG THE, UH, THE BOTTOM OF THE WALL HERE WITH, UM, SOME, UH, REFLECTING, UH, BENCHES AND, AND AND MONUMENTS.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING, UH, LOOKING EAST, UM, THE LOWER AREA AND THE UPPER AREA.
ANOTHER VIEW A LITTLE BIT CLOSER UP, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE FAMILY ESTATES HERE.
AND THIS IS SIMILAR TO OTHER, UM, INSTALLATIONS THAT FRANK CLIFF HAS, UH, HAS INSTALLED OVER THE YEARS, ELSEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH HOW THE, UH, THE PROGRESSION OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CEMETERY HAS OCCURRED, UM, OVER TIME.
AND THEN FINALLY JUST AN GROUND LEVEL, EYE LEVEL VIEW OF, UH, OF THE LAWN AREA.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE, UH, THE FAMILY, UM, ESTATES HERE WITH THE, UH, REFLECTING MEMORIAL BENCHES, AS I MENTIONED, UH, WE'RE SEEKING A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT AND A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
UM, THE AREAS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND ORANGE, SHE REPRESENT THE REGULATED SLOPES IN THE TOWN.
AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE, UM, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 48 TREES ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, UM, THAT ARE IN THE AREA OF THE PROJECT, UM, THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
UM, AS WE'VE, UM, UM, NOTED AT OUR SITE VISITS WITH, UH, OUR NEIGHBORS AND WITH, UH, SOME OF THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.
A LOT OF THESE TREES ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT IN GREAT CONDITION.
THEY WERE ORIGINALLY PLANTED, UM, APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS AGO TO PROVIDE SCREENING.
AND, UH, DUE TO THE DENSE NATURE OF THEIR PLANTING ORIGINALLY, THEIR UNDERSTORY HAS KIND OF DIED OFF.
AND THEY, THE, IT'S THE YEAR-ROUND SCREENING THAT THEY USED TO PROVIDE IS NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY THERE ANYMORE.
UM, WE PREPARED SOME SECTIONS OF THE WALLS AS WELL, UM, LOOKING FROM, UH, UH, THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTIES, UH, BACK.
AND, UH, THE UPPER PORTION OF THE WALL HERE, UM, IS APPROXIMATELY, UH, 11 FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND, UH, THE LOWER PORTION, UH, TO THE WEST IS APPROXIMATELY FOUR TO FIVE FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT, UM, THERE'S PLANTINGS PROPOSED BOTH ON THE BOTTOM AND THE TOPS OF THE WALLS.
UH, THE INTENT IS TO IMMEDIATELY AND PERMANENTLY, UH, STABILIZE AND SCREEN THE WALL SO THAT, UH, WE'LL ESSENTIALLY BE LOOKING AT A, A, A GREEN, UM, BARE, UH, BUFFER BETWEEN, UM, THE PROPERTIES.
AND THIS IS JUST A SECTION OF THE WALL LOOKING SOUTH, YOU CAN SEE FROM, UM, EAST TO WEST, THE UPPER PORTION.
UM, AND THEN IT STEPS DOWN TO THE LOWER PORTION, AND THEN THE WALL IS CONSISTENT ACROSS THAT PORTION.
UM, THIS IS A VIEW, UH, CONCEPTUAL RENDERING VIEW THAT WE PREPARED, UM, FROM, UH, THE BACKYARD OF, UH, 2 0 5 FOREST BOULEVARD.
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THIS IS ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT WE MET WITH.AND THIS WOULD, THIS PROVIDES A, A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THE LANDSCAPE PLANTINGS WOULD LOOK LIKE AFTER THEIR INSTALLATION.
SO REALLY CREATING A, A DENSE PRIVATE, UH, BUFFER BACKYARD HERE.
AND, UM, ANOTHER THING THAT, UH, WE, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT WE COULD, UM, UH, DO TO IMPROVE, UH, THE VISUAL CONDITIONS HERE IS THAT, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME OVERHEAD TELECOMMUNICATION WIRES THAT RUN SUBSTANTIALLY ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, AND IT'S REALLY AT EYE LEVEL AND THEY'RE KIND OF UNSIGHTLY.
SO, UM, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, UM, THE PORTION OF THE, UM, THAT OVERHEAD WIRES WILL BE, UM, PUT, UH, UNDERGROUND AND CONDUIT, UM, SO THAT, THAT, UH, WILL, UH, WILL NO LONGER BE, UM, VISIBLE.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S, UH, THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT, UH, MAY PRESENT THE HAZARD BECAUSE OF THEIR OVERHANG TO SOME BACKYARDS.
UM, THOSE, UH, WILL BE REMOVED IN THE, THE AREA OF, UH, THE PROJECT HERE.
AND THEN, UH, THERE'S A, UM, UH, EXISTING CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT'S, UH, PRETTY OLD.
IT'S IN DISREPAIR, UH, KIND OF UNSIGHTLY, UM, THAT ALSO WILL BE REMOVED, UM, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, UH, WITH THE, UH, THE PROPERTIES THAT, UH, SHARE THE, THE, THE PROJECT SITE.
AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, DISCUSS WITH NEIGHBORS THE INSTALLATION OF A SOLID, UH, FENCING TO PROVIDE A, UH, A MORE, UM, PERMANENT, UH, VISUAL BARRIER BETWEEN, UH, THESE TWO PROPERTIES.
AND, UM, THE SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVE OR SUBMITTED, UM, BASED ON OUR WORK SESSION WITH THE PLANNING BOARD.
UM, KIND OF JUST, UH, FURTHER CLARIFIES, UM, WHAT, UH, THIS, THESE VISUAL MITIGATIONS ARE HERE.
SO, UM, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE, UH, NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE SMALL PORTION OF THE, THE, UH, PROJECT SITE HERE.
AND WE'RE PROPOSING THE, UH, EIGHT FOOT HIGH SOLID PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THE BACKYARDS WITH 1 0 180 5 FOREST BOULEVARD AND 1 91 FOREST BOULEVARD HERE.
UH, THERE WILL BE A PROPOSED, UH, GATE HERE.
THAT WAS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA, HOW, HOW IS FRANKLIN CLIFF GONNA MAINTAIN THESE LANDSCAPING, THESE LANDSCAPING PLANTINGS ONCE IT'S INSTALLED? SO, UH, THERE WILL BE A GATE HERE THAT WILL BE SECURED FROM THE FERNCLIFFE SIDE TO ALLOW, UM, ACCESS TO, UM, UH, LANDSCAPE, UH, MAINTENANCE, UH, PERSONNEL THAT FERNCLIFF, UH, EMPLOYS.
AND THEN, UH, DURING OUR SITE VISIT, WE ALSO NOTICED THAT, UH, SOME OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, ALTHOUGH OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT AREA, UM, WE'RE REALLY LACKING, UM, SOME VISUAL SCREENING.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, FRANK CLIFF HAS, UH, INDICATED THAT THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, UH, THE LANDSCAPING ALONG THIS, UH, PROPERTY LINE FURTHER TO THE WEST TO, TO MITIGATE THAT AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE, UH, PROPOSAL, UH, BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT, AND I'M HAPPY TO, UH, CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD AND, UH, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR, UM, FROM THEM AS WELL.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS, UH, BOARD MEMBERS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING, UH, UH, THAT, UH, TREE, UH, THE, I THINK IT'S ARBOR.
SO WHAT KIND OF ARBOR VARIETIES ARE YOU
THEY ARE, UM, SPECIFIED TO BE, UH, 12 FEET IN HEIGHT, UM, AT THE TIME OF PLANTING.
UM, BUT I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS BOTH WITH FERNCLIFF AND WITH, UH, AARON SCHMIDT, UM, ABOUT, UM, ADDING SOME DIVERSITY TO THAT PO POTENTIALLY TO, UM, TO, TO BETTER COMPLY WITH THE, THE RECENTLY ADOPTED TOWN TREE ORDINANCE AND PROVIDE, UM, I GUESS IT'S, IT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN INSURANCE POLICY AGAINST, UH, POTENTIAL DISEASE AND, AND, AND, UM, BLIGHT THAT MAY, UM, AFFECT ONLY ONE SPECIES.
SO, UM, WE'RE FLEXIBLE IN, UM, THE, THE, THE SPECIES, BUT THE INTENT IS TO CHOOSE SOMETHING THAT IS THAT NUMBER ONE DOESN'T GROW TOO BIG OVER TIME, BUT ALSO PROVIDES, UH, CONSIS CONSISTENT SCREENING.
SO IT'LL BE, I JUST ADD THAT AARON, AARON, YOU HAVE REVIEWED IT, RIGHT? I HAVE REVIEWED, AND, AND, AND MR. CARRIS AND I HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
IF THE BOARD AS PART OF IT, AS YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S THE TOWN BOARD THAT WILL BE REVIEWING THE, THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT AND LANDSCAPING PLAN AND HAVE APPROVAL AUTHORITY OVER THOSE.
UH, HOWEVER, IF THE PLANNING BOARD WISHES TO ADD ANYTHING WITH RESPECT TO TREE REMOVAL OR LANDSCAPING INTO ITS RECOMMENDATION, YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? UH, IF NOT, I LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.
AND THE FIRST ONE IS THAT, UH, I APPRECIATE THE RESPONSIVENESS OF THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT, WHEN WE INDICATED THAT, UM, UH, THAT LINE OF FENCING, IT ENDED WHERE THIS PROPOSED, UH, UH, DISTURBANCE WERE, IS, IS TO TAKE PLACE.
BUT IN BACK OF THAT, THERE WAS A WHOLE, THERE WAS A, A SEVERAL
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HOMES WHERE THE FENCING WAS REALLY IN BAD SHAPE AND THE TREES WERE IN, IN EVEN WORSE SHAPE.AND IN YOUR PROPOSAL NOW YOU ADDRESS THAT AND TAKING THE FENCING AND THE LANDSCAPING FURTHER BACK TO COVER, I THINK ABOUT THREE HOUSES IN THE BACK.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE RESPONSIVENESS, UH, OF THE APPLICANT IN AGREEING TO DO THAT.
UH, JUST, JUST, UH, NO, THAT'S, I, I AGREE WITH, UH, UH, WALTER, JUST QUESTION THAT WHEN THEY SAY SOLID, UH, PRIVACY FENCE, SO IT IS A VINYL OR THAT, UM, HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED YET, WE WANT TO DO THAT IN COORDINATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY'LL CERTAINLY BE LOOKING AT IT.
SO IT'S REALLY GONNA COME DOWN TO WHAT, WHAT BEST SUITS EVERYONE'S PREFERENCE, WHETHER IT'S B V C, WOODSTOCK A, THE COLOR THAT'S ALL SUBJECT TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THESE NEIGHBORS ARE GONNA WANT.
SO I, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND I, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU HAVE WORKED WITH THEM.
IT'S BEEN TREMENDOUS, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, WE, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THE HERE AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN.
CAN YOU ASK IF, OH, OH, WHAT ABOUT THE PUBLIC NEED TO HAVE THE PUBLIC, UM, THE PUBLIC PUBLIC, SORRY, I'M VERY SORRY.
HAS ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? WE DID GET SEVERAL LETTERS, UH, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC IN, IN SUPPORT OF THAT THEN, UM, BUT IF NO ONE ELSE WISHED TO SPEAK IN PERSON AND, UH, YES.
WELL, AARON, UH, I COULD JUST GUIDE YOU THERE.
THERE WAS ONE PERSON INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THE MEETING, BUT THEY DID NOT INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY INTENDED TO SPEAK.
SO I SUPPOSE THEY, THEY HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO.
UM, IF THE BOARD'S PREPARED TO CLOSE, THEN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION COMPONENT AND HAVE A VOTE ON THAT.
LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR ONE WEEK UNTIL MAY 26TH, AND DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AT THE JUNE 2ND MEETING.
AND THEN SEPARATELY WITH A SEPARATE VOTE, VOTE TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY.
DAVID, DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT DATE? I WAS JUST, WELL, WHY I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WHY, WHY DO YOU WANNA DO THAT? WHY, WHY ARE WE DELAYING THE, THAT THAT DECISION? THE, THE STEEP SLOPE? YEAH.
AND, AND ALWAYS THE ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVALS COME A FIRST AND FOREMOST, ALWAYS AFTER SEEKER, WHICH THE TOWN BOARD HAS NOT DONE YET.
SO T THEY HAVEN'T DONE SEEKER.
AND SECOND AND SECOND, TYPICALLY, UH, DO NOT COME UNTIL AFTER THE SITE PLAN'S ESTABLISHED AND, AND, AND APPROVED.
THAT'S OUR, UH, OUR, UM, PRACTICE, UH, JULY SE UH, MEETING IS ON JULY 7TH.
I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION, AARON, UH, DID WE GET, UH, CORRESPONDENCE EITHER, UH, DISCUSSING THIS OTHER THAN THE INDICATION FROM SOMEONE THAT THEY MIGHT WISH TO, UH, TO SEE A LINK FOR THE MEETING? DID WE GET ANY? I DON'T RECALL ANYTHING ON THIS, NO.
I'LL MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION SECOND.
AND YOU'LL WANNA KEEP THE RECORD OPEN FOR ONE WEEK UNTIL, AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN ON MAY 26TH.
AND THEN TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, UH, UNTIL JULY 7TH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SO MOVED.
OKAY, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UM, WHICH IS, UH, 14 ROCK HILL PB 2015.
SO IT'S CHAIRPERSON SIMON INDICATED.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CASE NUMBER PB 20 DASH 15.
JOHN BALA, LOCATED AT 14 RAQUEL LANE PO SCARSDALE IN THE R 21 FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS STEEP SLOPE AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPROVALS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
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THE DEMOLITION OF AN AN EXISTING GUEST HOUSE AND STAIRWAY, AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A POOL POOL PATIO WITH A CABANA, A BASEMENT ADDITION WITH THE TERRACE ABOVE A DECK AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE ADDITION OF THREE RAIN GARDENS TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL RUNOFF CREATED BY IMPERVIOUS SERVICES PROJECT REQUIRES THE REMOVAL OF SIX REGULATED TREES REQUIRING A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, AND THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A LANDSCAPING PLAN CALLING FOR THE PLANTING OF 20 TREES AND VARIOUS SHRUBS AS REPLACEMENTS.
IT IS NOTED THAT THE PLANNING BOARD ISSUED A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT ON MARCH 29TH, 2018, UNDER CASE NUMBER PB 17 DASH 23, INVOLVING A SIMILAR PROPOSAL AT THE SITE.
THE PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS MATTER DURING ITS APRIL 21ST WORK SESSION WHERE THE BOARD RAISED CERTAIN QUESTIONS AND REQUESTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT.
THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED AND FORWARDED OUT IN THE BOARD'S PACKAGES.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING TO DETAIL THE REVISIONS TO THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE.
I ASK THAT THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PROVIDE DETAILED OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT OVERVIEW INDICATE THE REVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE WORK SESSION.
UM, I WOULD ALSO JUST ADD THAT WE DID GET ONE PIECE OF CORRESPONDENCE THAT I'M AWARE OF FROM THIS, FROM A MR. UM, HAROLD QUITMAN 12 ROCK HILL LANE.
AND MR. QUITMAN IS ON THE MEETING TONIGHT AND PREPARED TO SPEAK AT SUCH TIME THAT IT'S OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, MY NAME IS MICHAEL MCGARVEY, UH, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REPRESENT THE, UH, APPLICATION FOR 14 ROCK HILL LANE.
UM, AS MR. SCHMIDT JUST MENTIONED, WE DID, UM, WE'RE AT A WORK SESSION OR A ZOOM SESSION, UM, LAST TIME, UH, FOR, UH, A WORK SESSION.
AND, UH, WE REVIEWED THIS, THE PROJECT, UH, THE BOARD HAD COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF, UH, PROPOSALS OR, OR SUGGESTIONS, UH, AND WE TOOK ALL THOSE SUGGESTIONS AND INCORPORATED 'EM INTO THE, THE LATEST PLAN HERE.
UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS, UM, A, A LETTER FROM, UH, THE NEIGHBOR, UM, WHICH WE WILL GET TO.
UM, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT, UM, MR. JAMAL LODGE, UH, SPOKE WITH THE NEIGHBOR AND CAME TO AN, AN AMICABLE SOLUTION OR, OR AMICABLE THAT.
WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY WORK IT OUT.
WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP HIM OUT, WE WILL DO IT.
UM, SO BASICALLY, JUST TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT, UM, WE WILL BE, WE WITH ME TONIGHT, BY THE WAY, IS, UH, MR. DANIEL SHERMAN.
HE'S, UM, AN ARBORIST, UM, AND A TREE EXPERT.
SO HE WILL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THE TREES, UM, THE ONES THAT ARE COMING DOWN AND THE ONES THAT WERE, YOU'RE PLANTED.
UM, SINCE THE LAST MEETING, UH, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT, UM, WE HAVE REMOVED THE, UH, PROPOSED SECOND ASPHALT DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF THE, OF THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S NOW GONE.
THERE'S ONLY THE ONE, UH, DRIVEWAY GOING IN.
SO THAT WAS REMOVED OFF THE PANEL ALTOGETHER.
DO YOU HAVE A SCREEN THAT YOU COULD SHARE? THANK YOU.
AND MR. MAGAR, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD WALK JUST FOR, AS I MENTIONED, THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
THE BOARD HAS SEEN THE PROJECT, AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW US WHAT YOU REVISED, BUT I THINK A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED, UH, THE STEEP SLOPE DISTURBANCE, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, THE TREE REMOVALS, THE LANDSCAPING WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, UH, FOR OUR PUBLIC WHO ARE TUNED IN.
UH, I, I'LL, I WILL TOUCH ON ALL THOSE AGAIN.
THE, UM, THE LANDSCAPING, I'M GONNA LEAVE TO MR. DANIEL SHERMAN.
HE'S THE EXPERT ON THE TREES AND SHRUBS.
UH, SO I'LL LEAVE THAT TO HIM.
UM, BUT BASICALLY THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED, UH, I THINK IT'S BACK IN 2018 OR SO, 2017.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN IT WAS.
UM, BUT SINCE THAT TIME, THERE WAS AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT, UH, ON THE SITE THAT SOMEBODY THAT, OR A CONTRACTOR THAT, UM, THE, THE OWNER OF 14, UH, ROCKY LANE KNOWS, STARTED DOING WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION.
HE, MR. UH, JAMAL LODGE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE WAS DOING THE WORK, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
AGAIN, MR. JAMBA LODGE DOES NOT LIVE AT THIS PLACE.
SO FOR STUFF TO HAPPEN WHILE HE'S NOT THERE IS DEFINITELY, OR UNDERSTANDABLE.
BUT ANYHOW, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS STOPPED BY THE TOWN.
UM, AND WE CEASE AND DEED, UH, AND WE SAID, ALL RIGHT, DURING THIS TIME, LET'S LOOK AT THIS AGAIN AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET A, A PLAN THAT EVERYBODY IS AGREEABLE TO, UM, AS FAR AS, UM, WHAT IS NEEDED OUT HERE AND WHAT THESE, THIS, UM, WHAT WE CAN,
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WE CAN DO, WHAT, WHAT BEST SUITS THIS SITE.SO, UH, WE CAME UP WITH THE LATEST PLAN HERE.
UM, IT DOES HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
YOU KNOW, THE, UH, PREVIOUS PLAN DID HAVE SOME, LIKE A BASKETBALL COURT, UM, STUFF OF THAT NATURE THAT WE DIDN'T THINK WAS VERY CONDUCIVE TO THIS AREA.
UM, IT'S A VERY HIGH END AREA IN, UM, IN GREENBURG SLASH SCARSDALE.
UM, SO WE DIDN'T WANNA DO ANYTHING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT.
UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED, THE ARCHITECT HERE, LUIGI LANDY, UM, HAS PROPOSED AND, UH, DRAWN UP SOME, UM, SOME RENDERINGS OF, UM, WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS GONNA BE A POOL HERE, THERE'S GONNA BE A BANNER.
UM, BUT WE ARE, WE'LL BE TAKING DOWN AN EXISTING POOL HOUSE AND WE'LL BE, UH, THERE'LL BE, UM, SOME SHOWERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING IN.
THERE'S A RESTROOM AND A CHANGING AREA, A DRESSING AREA.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, WE ARE ALSO EXTENDING THE, UM, THE BASEMENT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO THAT'LL POP OUT THE BACK AND IT'LL BE UNDERNEATH THE PROPOSED DECKING.
UM, THE, AROUND THE POOL ITSELF, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PAVERS AND AROUND THE POOL, WE ARE ALSO GONNA HAVE A GLASS RAILING, UM, A GLASS ENCLOSURE FOR THE, UH, AS A RAILING.
UH, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE, THE RAILINGS WILL ALSO EXTEND DOWN THE STAIRS AND ALONG THE BACK, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME PLANTINGS AGAIN.
I'LL LEAVE THAT FOR MR. SHERMAN.
UM, WE ALSO DO HAVE A, UM, THREE RAIN GARDENS IN THE REAR OF THE YARD.
THOSE ARE THE THREE RAIN GARDENS WE HAVE.
UM, AS YOU MAY UNDERSTAND OR MAY KNOW FROM THIS AREA, IT IS VERY, VERY ROCKY.
UM, AND WE COULD NOT GET, UH, ANY KIND OF, UM, UH, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IN THIS AREA.
UH, BECAUSE OF THE, THE DEPTH OF THE HEIGHT OF THE ROCK, IT WAS SO HIGH TO THE SURFACE.
UM, SO WE DID GET THIS IN, UM, THIS WAS APPROVED ONCE BEFORE, BY THE WAY.
UM, WE DO SHOW, UM, EROSION CONTROL AROUND THE SITE.
UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME TREES TO BE REMOVED.
UM, AGAIN, MR. SHERMAN WILL STEP ON THAT.
UM, UM, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? WE, UH, WE HAVE SILT FENCE AROUND THAT TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF THE SILT, IF WE DISTURB ANY OF THE SOIL YET, THE SILT DOESN'T LEAVE THE SITE AND GO ONTO THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTIES.
UM, AND WE DO HAVE A FOUR FOOT HIGH, UM, SAFETY FENCE AROUND THE WHOLE PERIMETER OF THE SITE.
UM, THAT'S BECAUSE, UM, MR. JAMAL LODGE, UM, HAS A COUPLE SMALL CHILDREN THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO PROTECT SO THAT IF THEY DO GO DOWN IN THE BACKYARD, THEY DON'T RUN INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORS OR GO OUT THE FRONT, UM, AND GET HURT BY A CAR OR HIT BY A CAR.
UM, EVEN THOUGH IT IS DEAD END, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU NEVER TO BE TOO CAREFUL WITH THESE KIDS OR ANY KIDS, UM, INCLUDING MY OWN BY THE WAY.
UM, BUT ANYHOW, UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR ME.
UM, YOU WANT, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT AARON? UM, MAYBE, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SHOWN, GO AHEAD, MR. SCHWARTZ.
UH, MIKE, COULD YOU PLEASE GO THROUGH WHAT YOU TOOK OUT AND WHERE THAT IS AND WHERE THE DRIVEWAY CURRENT DRIVEWAY IS, PLEASE? ALRIGHT.
UH, LUIGI, YOU WANNA GO ON THAT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE IT? SURE.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN NAME IS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS LUIGI LANDY, AND I WORK WITH, UH, MR. MCGARVEY ON THIS PROJECT.
SO, UM, FROM OUR PREVIOUS, UH, WORK SESSION, WE WERE PROPOSING A, UH, SECOND CURB CUT, UM, AROUND THIS AREA.
EVERYBODY CAN SEE MY SCREEN, RIGHT? YES.
SO, UM, WE REMOVED THE CURB CUT, UM, JUST KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.
THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WE'RE PROPOSING AROUND THIS AREA, SO IT PRETTY MUCH STAYS THE WAY IT CURRENTLY IS.
UH, WE ARE, HOWEVER, UM, TOUCHING THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY, SPEAKING WITH GRANITE, THE HOMEOWNER, HE DECIDED TO REMOVE THE ASPHALT AND DO SOME PAVING AT THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY.
SO NO ADDITIONAL PREVIOUS SERVICES ARE CREATED, JUST KEEPING THE SAME AREA AND JUST REDOING SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING DESIGN AT THE EXISTING QUESTION ON THE PAVERS.
DO THEY, DO YOU KNOW IF THEY ARE INTENDED TO BE OF THE PERVIOUS OR POROUS STYLE OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT?
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THEY, UM, WE, WE CAN PROPOSE A POROUS TYPE OF STYLE PAVERS.UM, HOWEVER, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT INCREASING IMPERVIOUS SERVICE, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GRANITE WILL LOVE THAT IDEA AS WELL.
UM, SO THIS, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE FRONT OF THE, UM, PROPERTY, SO IF YOU DIDN'T SHOW IT ALREADY, I KNOW THE BOARD HAD PREVIOUSLY ASKED FOR, YOU KNOW, A RENDERING OR A REAR VIEW, REAR ELEVATION VIEW.
I WAS GONNA GET THERE, YOU KNOW, IF I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT THE BACK, BUT, ALRIGHT, LET'S GO.
I MEAN, PLEASE GO THROUGH IT AS YOU WISH.
SO FROM MY PREVIOUS, UH, WORK SESSION, WE WERE, UM, SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UH, WAS REGARDING, UH, RAILINGS AT THE POOL DECK AREA.
SO WE DECIDED TO, UM, TO GO WITH A GLASS RAILING, 36 INCHES HIGH GLASS RAILING THAT WRAPS AROUND THE ENTIRE FOLD DECK AND AS WELL AS THE, UH, PORTION OF THE BASEMENT EDITION.
SO THE UPPER LEVEL HERE THAT I'M SHOWING WITH, UH, GOING AROUND, EVERYBODY CAN SEE ME.
AND FROM THIS BASEMENT, YOU WALK DOWN ONTO THE POOL DECK.
SO THIS WILL HAVE GLASS RAILING WRAPPING AROUND THE, UH, WOOD DECK ABOVE WILL HAVE A, UM, 36 INCHES EYE WIRE RAILING.
UM, AT THE WORK SESSION, WE WERE ALSO ASKED ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF FINISHES ON THE WALL.
SO WE DO HAVE A, UH, A STONE VENEER AT ALL THE, UH, RETAINING WALLS THAT WE'RE BUILDING.
I THINK I HAVE A, UM, A LOT OF CUT RIGHT HERE.
YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AROUND THE, UH, AT THE POLE, AT THE POLE AREA.
UH, THESE ARE THE PAVERS AT AROUND THE POOL.
UH, WE PROVIDED LIGHTING ALONG THE ENTIRE POOL DECK SO WE CAN HAVE SOME WALL SCONCES TO PROVIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING ALL THE WAY AROUND.
AND, UH, YEAH, THIS, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH IT IN THE BACK.
AND LANDSCAPING, OF COURSE IS A
UH, LOUIS, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, FENCE OF ALONG THE PERIMETER? WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, UH, A WOODSTOCK CAPE? YES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ALUMINUM, UH, ALUMINUM.
ALUMINUM TO MATCH THE NEIGHBORS.
SO WE PROPOSED, UM, ALUMINUM FENCING, AND I CAN GUIDE YOU ALONG THE PATH.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING A 48 INCHES HIGH, WE CALL IT SAFETY FENCE, BUT JUST LIKE MIKE, UH, EXPLAINED IT BEFORE, UM, WE'RE PUTTING GATES ON EITHER SIDE, ONE GATE HERE, ONE GATE HERE.
SO THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THIS 48 INCH HIGH FENCE JUST WRAPPED AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
AND THIS JUST, YOU KNOW, SOLELY FOR, YOU KNOW, SAFETY PROTECTION.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE FENCE.
AND THAT FENCE IS GONNA BE THE, UH, BLACK 48 INCH HIGH OR FOUR FOOT HIGH, UH, A ALUMINUM PICKET FENCE.
AND THAT'S THE NEIGHBOR TO THE UPHILL SIDE, CORRECT? YES.
UM, THE POOL DECK AREA, UM, WE'LL HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, IN ADDITION TO IMPERVIOUS AREAS OF PAVERS THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU, WE'LL HAVE LOTS OF VEGETATION AROUND PLANTING.
UM, THERE'S A POOL CABANA, MIKE EXPLAINED IT BEFORE, IT'S SOLELY DRESSING AREA AND BATHROOM WITH AN OPEN RECREATIONAL AREA.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
BUT YEAH, THE TREES, YES, THE CHAIRMAN WALK US THROUGH THE, UH, TREES AND LANDSCAPING.
DO YOU HAVE IT, UH, MICHAEL OR LUIGI ON THIS SCROLL, OR SHOULD I SHARE MY SCREEN? UH, CAN YOU DO, BE ABLE TO SHARE YOURS PLEASE? YEP.
OH, I NEED TO BE SOMEONE ELSE'S.
MR. SHERMAN, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION FOR THE RECORD.
DANIEL SHERMAN, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
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NOT ARBORIST, REALLY A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.UM, SO NOT A LOT CHANGED WITH THE PLANTING, BUT I'M HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH IT.
AND BRIEFLY, ANYWAY, MAINLY IT WAS THE ELIMINATION OF THE DRIVEWAY ON THE PLAN THAT WAS ALREADY EXPLAINED ON THE OTHER PLAN.
SO, UM, ONE THING THAT WAS ADDED FAIRLY RECENTLY WAS THE SCREENING ALONG THE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY ON BOTH THE, UH, LEFT AND RIGHT.
I WON'T SAY EAST AND WEST 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE, UH, WITH THE, AND I NORMALLY DO USE GREEN GIANT AES, BUT ON THE SITE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF EMERALD GREEN AES ALL CORRALLED IN THE BACK AREA.
THEY'RE ALL PUT THERE ORIGINALLY FOR SCREENING, BUT THEY WERE NEVER USED, BUT THEY'RE DOING, LAST TIME I SAW THEM, THEY WERE DOING FINE.
SO I HAD GROUPED THOSE IN A, UM, A LONG SCREENING HEDGE ON THE, I GUESS ON THE RIGHT SIDE TOWARDS THE NEIGHBOR DOWNHILL FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOFTENING THE EFFECT OF THE, UM, OF THE TERRACE WALLS.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A PROPOSED, UH, VIBURNUM, I MEAN HAWTHORNE TREE, THERE'S AN EXISTING TREE.
AND THEN I WAS PUTTING THIS ROW OF OURE ON THAT SIDE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, I WAS USING THEM TO SCREEN FROM THE UPHILL NEIGHBOR, THE ABILITY TO SEE TOWARDS THE AIR CONDITIONERS.
AND I ALSO SCREENED THOSE WITH CHESAPEAKE COLLIES.
OTHERWISE, THERE'S A NORWAY SPRUCE SCREEN IN THE AREA WHERE THE EXISTING TREES ARE GOING TO DIE IF THEY'RE NOT GONE ALREADY.
AND IT'S, THOSE ARE THE, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE MITIGATION.
SO, UM, YEAH, IN THE MITIGATION, UM, IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN, THERE WAS A COMPLETE LINE AROUND THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY OF I THINK OUR ES BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD DO WELL UNDER THE CANOPY OF THE OAKS AND THE MAPLES THAT ARE THERE.
SO INSTEAD, I MADE IT LOOK MORE NATURAL BY REPLACING, UH, RED OAK, UH, OAKS AND SUGAR MAPLES.
INSTEAD, IT LOOKED MORE OPEN AND NATURAL.
AND I USED THE NEW GREENBERG, UM, CRITERIA OR THE NEW MITIGATION, WHICH I THINK I MENTIONED BEFORE WAS AMAZING.
AND I'VE USED IT ON MY OWN NOW ON OTHER PROJECTS, EVEN IF I DON'T HAVE TO.
'CAUSE IT'S A PRETTY COOL WAY TO GIVE BACK OR, YOU KNOW, TAKE AWAY AND SEQUESTER THE CARBON AND ALL THAT.
SO THAT'S A, IT WAS A GOOD PLAN.
SO THIS ONE, UH, SLIGHTLY EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE REPLACEMENT.
I GUESS IF YOU, SURE, YOU KNOW HOW IT WORKS.
YOU ADD UP THE TREES THAT YOU RELA YOU'RE TAKING DOWN, AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE VALUE OF THOSE IN WATER AND, UH, RAINWATER AND, AND SEQUESTRATION OF CARBON DIOXIDE, AND THEN COME UP WITH 90% OF THAT IN THE REPLACEMENTS.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
SO THAT'S, UH, AND THEN THERE'S THE RAIN GARDENS, WHICH ARE RAIN GARDENS.
UM, I COULD EXPLAIN IT FURTHER, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
UM, MR. SHERMAN, IF I MAY, SO I WAS OUT THERE ACTUALLY YESTERDAY AND, UM, WITH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO, WHO'S ON AND LIKELY TO SPEAK AS PART OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION.
UM, BUT WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE CLUSTER OF EMERALD GREEN.
UM, I THINK THAT THEY'VE GONE DOWN AND, UM, HAVE TAKEN A TURN FOR THE WORSE, IN MY OPINION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY LOOK LIKE THEY WERE BURNING OUT AND OR POSSIBLY EATEN BY, UH, DEER, DEER BROWSING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I I, I'D ASK YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
WELL, THEN I, IF I CAN ON THIS PLAN, I'LL SWITCH THOSE TO GREEN GIANT, BECAUSE THE GREEN GIANT GROW MORE QUICKLY.
THEY GROW FATTER AND TALLER MORE QUICKLY AND, UH, SCREEN BETTER.
AND ALSO THEY'RE NOT AS SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE DEER BROWSING.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW IF I AM PERMITTED TO MAKE A CHANGE RIGHT HERE AT THIS, BUT IF IT WAS A CONDITION, I, I STILL THINK THE SCREENING IS A VALID, UH, PLACE TO PUT THEM.
I'D PUT THE SAME QUANTITY, THE SAME NUMBER, UM, BUT CHANGE THEM TO GREEN GIANT.
JUST FOR A PROCEDURAL THING, WE WILL WAIT TO HEAR EVERYONE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SPEAK ON THIS AND, AND THE BOARD AS WELL.
UH, THAT MAY BE A, A, A VIABLE SOLUTION.
IT SEEMS TO BE WHAT THE LETTER, UH, REQUESTED, BUT, UH, WE WON'T MAKE ANY DETERMINATIONS AS YET.
BUT THAT'S THE REASON THAT I USED THE EMAL GREENS 'CAUSE THEY WERE EXISTING, BUT I SAW IT, GOSH, A YEAR AGO.
SO, UM, THAT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY HAVE DECLINED.
UM, AARON, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE LANDSCAPE PLAN? NO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE OTHER COMMENT THOUGH.
UM, AARON, OR, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, ALONG WITH THE, UH, THE GLASS, UH, RAILINGS, WE ALSO HAVE IN THE UPPER DECK, WE ALSO HAVE THE WIRE RAILING, UH, AGAIN, AS SHOWN ON SHEET EIGHT OF EIGHT, UH, DARREN, IF YOU CAN, UH, ARE YOU DONE YEAH.
IN THE, ONE OF YOUR DRAWINGS YOU WAS SHOWN? I KNOW.
YEAH, NO, I KNOW, I KNOW IT SURE.
UH, I DUNNO IF I MEANT THAT I THAT EARLIER.
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MIKE, I MENTIONED BEFORE.ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT, UH, UH, THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO MAKE? IF NOT, I'LL, UH, FIRST TURN IT OVER TO THE, THE BOARD AND THEN, UH, TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, SO MEMBERS OF BOARD, ANY COMMENTS ON THIS, UH, UM, APPLICATION? UM, WALTER? YES, I, I HAD A COMMENT.
UH, I THINK I LIKE THE, UH, VERY NICELY LANDSCAPE AND, UH, UH, USE OF THE MATERIALS AND THE SITE IS A, IS IS WONDERFUL THING.
THE, THE STEPPING DOWN USING THE INFINITY POOL AND UH, UH, AND THE CHOICE OF MATERIALS AND THE VARIETY OF THE, UH, MATERIALS IS A, IS IS VERY, VERY REFRESHING.
UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SAFETY FENCE? I DON'T KNOW.
YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT HAS A, UH, UH, ANODIZED ALUMINUM POST.
BUT WHAT'S A, WHAT'S A FEELING FILLER MATERIAL? WHAT? I'M SORRY.
WHAT'S THE, WHAT IS, WHAT IS A MATERIAL BETWEEN THE POST? IT'S ALL ALUMINUM.
SO IT'S SAYS SLAT ALUMINUM SLED.
YEAH, IT'S, UM, IT'S, UH, THE SPIKES, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UH, SQUARES AND THEN IT'S FLATTENED UP AT THE TOP.
IT'S BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A SPIKE.
BUT THEN THERE'S A CROSS RAIL ABOVE THE, THE POINT IS THAT RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO IT'S, IT'S A RE AS LONG IT'S NOT A CHANGING FENCE.
I WOULD NOT, I WOULD NOT EVEN SHOW THAT.
SO WE HAVE MR. QUITMAN WHO IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO HIM AT THIS TIME.
UH, CHAIRMAN SIMON FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.
UH, I'M IN THE NEIGHBOR 12 ROCK HILL LANE ADJOINING THIS PROPERTY.
UM, I'VE LIVED ON ROCK HILL LANE FOR 38 YEARS, UM, AND, UH, I'VE ENJOYED LIVING, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL STREET AND, UH, UH, I FEEL PRIVILEGED TO, TO HAVE THE PROPERTY.
UH, MY CONCERN, AND I'M REALLY NOT TRYING TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S NOT MY EXPERTISE OR THE STEEP SLOPE.
IT'S REALLY DOING WITH LANDSCAPING AND, UM, UH, SCREENING, UM, ON THE PLANS AS SUBMITTED, THE REVISED PLANS, THEY TALK ABOUT SOME MATURE TREES THAT EXIST ON THE OUTSIDE THE BACKSIDE OF THE VERANDA.
UM, AS I POINTED OUT TO, UH, UH, UH, TO SMITH, ONE OF THOSE MATURE TREES, UH, IS DEAD.
UH, IT'S BEEN DEAD FOR A COUPLE YEARS AT LEAST.
ANOTHER TREE SHOWN I THINK IS IN DECLINE THAT ONE OF THE TWO TRUNKS HAS BEEN CUT AND THE EXISTING TRUNK IS NOT DOING WELL.
UM, MY CONCERN IS WHEN I LOOK OUT MY PICTURE WINDOW IN MY DINING ROOM AND MY DECK, I AM LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE VERANDA.
UM, AND AS POINTED OUT BY, UH, UH, MR. SCHMIDT, UH, THE EXISTING ARBOR BIDES, UH, WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN WATERED FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, THEY WERE WATERED IN THE PAST OR ABOUT 80% DEAD.
UM, AND THE OFFER TO REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL, LIKE THE GIANT ARBORVITAES IS WELCOME.
UM, ONE OF MY CONCERNS THOUGH IS, UH, I HAD SUBMITTED A VIDEO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE SHOWN, UM, BUT THE BACKYARD, IT CAN.
AND I, I, I'M GONNA ATTEMPT TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN I'LL WAIT AND THEN I ADD A COMMENT AFTERWARDS.
BEAR WITH ME JUST FOR A MOMENT.
CAN EVERYONE SEE THE VIDEO? YES, YES.
YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT IF YOU WISH.
WELL, THIS IS THE BACKYARD LOOKING FROM 10 ROCK HILL LANE, MY OWN PROPERTY GOING TOWARDS 14.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S, IT'S OPEN.
IT'S REALLY ALMOST A PARK-LIKE SETTING.
UM, I'VE RAISED TWO CHILDREN FROM THEIR INFANCY THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL ON THE PROPERTY.
MY NEIGHBORS AT 10 ROCK HILL AND HAD FIVE
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BOYS.UM, WE'VE ALL MANAGED TO USE THE PROPERTY AND THE IDEA OF PUTTING A SAFETY FENCE AROUND THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS REALLY NOT AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
UM, I DO KNOW ON THE EARLIER PLANS SUBMITTED TWO YEARS AGO, THERE WAS CLUSTERS OF ARBOR BIDES THAT OFFERED SOME SCREENING.
AND I THINK I DID HAVE A PHONE CALL WITH, UH, UH, GRANITE, MY NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR, HE REACHED OUT TO ME TODAY AND HE OFFERED TO, UH, DO SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, AT LEAST MY PROPERTY.
I WOULD ALSO HOPE THAT THEY CAN PUT SOME SCREENING ON MY SIDE OF THE FENCE IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT, BECAUSE A PICKET FENCE EFFECT DIVIDING THIS BEAUTIFUL BACKYARD, UH, IS REALLY NOT PLEASING.
UM, AND THIS IS REALLY MY CONCERN.
UM, UH, ALSO, UH, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR SAFETY FENCE, AT LEAST AROUND A POOL.
UH, BUT I QUESTION THE NEED FOR IT AROUND THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
BUT THAT AGAIN, IS, UH, I GUESS THAT DECISION ULTIMATELY IS NOT MINE.
BUT AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS HOW BEST TO SCREEN AND, AND I SORT OF REFER TO THE BOARD'S JUDGMENT AND, UH, THE BOARD MEMBER SCHMIDT, WHO ARE BETTER QUALIFIED TO ADDRESS THAT.
BUT, UM, AS I SAID, UH, I, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN WAS SOME OF THE DEAD TREES AND SOME OF THE AVIDS THAT ARE NOT FUNCTIONING, UH, ARE IN DECLINE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? IF NOT, I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS OF, UH, THIS, UH, WHAT'S THAT? I'M TRYING TO READ YOUR NAME AND I CAN'T REMEMBER.
COULD YOU RESPOND TO MR. EQUIPMENT'S, UH, UH, COMMENTS? UH, SURE.
UH, I'LL TRY TO, UH, WELL FOR STARTERS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE MR. WHITMAN'S, UM, POINT OF VIEW.
UM, OUR CLIENT ASKED THAT WE DO THIS, WE'RE ASKING TO DO THIS.
I MEAN, I BELIEVE IT'S BOTH WITHIN OUR PURVIEW TO ASK AND, AND ACTUALLY TO DO IT.
UM, BUT WE WE'RE NOT, WE, I'M NOT TRYING TO FORCE ANYTHING DOWN ANYBODY'S THROAT.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE NEIGHBORLY.
UM, ANY DEAD TREES, UM, WE'LL DEFINITELY COME DOWN.
UM, UH, UH, MR. SHERMAN, WE CAN CUT THOSE DOWN, CORRECT? YEAH, IF THEY'RE DEAD, CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN? I'D LIKE TO KNOW.
I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE TO SEE THAT LATELY.
SO, ON THIS PLAN, UM, ARE THEY THE ONES MAYBE, UH, NEIGHBOR, I CAN SPEAK TO IT.
SO, UH, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST ONE YOU WENT TO.
I, I MET WITH MR. EQUIPMENT AND TOOK, LOOKED AT THE VANTAGE POINT FROM HIS DECK.
IT IS THAT CENTRAL OAK THERE? UM, AND FURTHER UP AS WELL? NO, THE ONE YOU WERE PANNING OVER.
SO IT'S, IT'S THAT EXACT OAK, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS A DUAL STEM ONE HAD BEEN CUT AND NOW THE OTHER ONE'S DEAD.
UH, AND I DID FORWARD, UH, A PHOTO OF THAT.
UM, WELL THAT WILL HELP ESTABLISH THE GREEN GIANT ES UNDERNEATH OF NOT ONLY OPENING UP THE ROOT ZONE FOR THEM, BUT THE SUNLIGHT AS WELL.
AND, AND, AND THE VALUES GIVEN BY THAT DEAD TREE ARE LIKELY GONNA BE LOW.
I'VE LOOKED THROUGH THE PROGRAM MANY TIMES, BUT THEY'LL BE VERY LOW.
SO WITH YOU INDICATING THAT MM-HMM.
THE CRITERIA IS LESS IF THEY'RE NOT A CONTRIBUTING TREE.
SO I'LL LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M MEETING OR EXCEEDING THE NUMBER.
SO WE'LL JUST NEED THE PLAN UPDATED AND THE APPLICATION FORM UPDATED OR REFLECT THE SEVENTH TREE.
JUST FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE, 'CAUSE I HAD DIFFICULTY FOLLOWING IN THIS AND MAYBE THE PUBLIC ALSO, WHEN THAT VI WHERE THE VIDEO THAT WE WERE SHOWN, COULD YOU INDICATE TO ME WHAT AREA ON THIS SITE PLAN THAT THIS YES.
SO THE, THE VIDEO IS FROM THE NEIGHBOR THAT'S TO THE TOP.
AND IF YOU WERE IN THE ROAD TO THE RIGHT.
WHAT ABOUT THAT WAS, UM, HIS HOUSE, HE HAS A, A, AN ELEVATED REAR DECK AS YOU KNOW, THESE PROPERTIES SLOPE, UM, FROM THE ROAD DOWN A, A BIT.
AND SO HE, THE VIDEO INITIALLY WAS FROM THAT DECK, I BELIEVE, LOOKING TO HIS RIGHT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, TWO HOUSES OVER FROM HERE AND THEN PANNING FROM NUMBER 10 ACROSS, UH, MR. EQUIPMENT'S PROPERTY, WHICH IS 12, AND THEN ULTIMATELY ENDING AT 14, WHICH IS THE REAR YARD
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OF, UH, 14, WHICH IS THE APPLICANT.BECAUSE IF THE COMMENT WAS MADE IN TERMS OF, UH, WHY IS THAT SENSE? SO, SO I KNOW WHY THE, THE APPLICANT WANTS IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE YOUNG KIDS, KIDS, BUT THE ISSUE IS IF YOU HAVE THE SCREENING ALL AROUND IT, HOW IS THE, THAT FENCE BECOME OFFENSIVE IF YOU HAVE SCREENING ALL AROUND THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY? HOW COULD, HOW? I DON'T THOUGH THERE'S NOT SCREENING ALL AROUND THE PROPERTY.
SO IS THE SOLUTION, JUST TO PUT MORE SCREENING THERE, I THINK THAT WAS THE REQUEST OF THE NEIGHBOR, AND HE NOTED THAT THERE, UM, A, IN THE PRIOR APPLICATION, THERE WAS SOME LANDSCAPING SHOWN ALONG THE FULL EXTENT OF THE FENCE.
UM, MR. SHERMAN DID INDICATE THAT HE JUST DIDN'T FEEL THE, THAT VARIETY WOULD, WOULD REALLY WORK OR DO WELL.
UM, BUT I THINK SECONDLY, OR B UH, UH, MR EQUIPMENT INDICATED THAT HE SPOKE WITH THE OWNER, MR. JEAN BASH, UM, WHO SEEMS POTENTIALLY WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ADD SOMETHING FURTHER DOWN THE LINE ALONG THAT FENCE, UH, TO HELP BREAK UP THE VIEW SHIP.
BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE OBVIOUS SOLUTION.
IF, IF THE, IF THE OWNER WOULD LIKE THAT FENCE FOR SAFETY OF HIS CHILDREN, I COULD UNDERSTAND THAT POINT.
AND I COULD ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBOR IN TERMS OF WHARTON PROPER, UH, SCREENING.
SO BY JUST MAKING A BUFF, UH, UH, ADDING SCREEN IN THAT AREA, TO ME IT SOLVES THE PROBLEM.
YOU GOT SCREENING FOR THE NEIGHBOR AND THE APPLICANT HAD THE FENCING FOR THE SAFETY OF HIS CHILDREN.
YEAH, AND I'LL JUST SAY IT'S, IT'S A 48 INCH FENCE, SO I, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT LIKE TREES.
IT COULD BE LOWER FLOWERING SHRUBS OR, OR, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
MR. SHERMAN'S LANDSCAPE BAR BACK FOR THIS.
I CAN DO, I'LL CHECK WITH MR. JAMAL AND THE EXTENT THAT HE WANTS TO GO TO THAT, BUT THAT'S
MR. ANSEL, JUST FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION.
YEAH, DANIEL ANSEL ATTORNEY, UH, REPRESENTING MR. JAMAL.
I, I BELIEVE THAT PUTTING SHRUBS IN FRONT OF THAT FENCE WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE TO COVER THE FOUR FOOT FENCE.
I THINK MR. WHITMAN HAD A COMMENT.
MY ONLY COMMENT IS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT AN OCCASIONAL SHRUB ON MY SIDE OTHERWISE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S S SHRUBBERY ON MR. BALA'S SIDE, I'M LOOKING AT A CONTINUOUS PICKET FENCE FROM MY PROPERTY.
YEAH, I, YES, I WOULD THINK, ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE ISN'T THAT WHAT'RE TALKING ABOUT? I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THE SHARPEE HAS, UH, POSSIBLY IT ADDED WAS ALL ON THE INSIDE OF THE FENCE.
ON THE OUTSIDE TO HELP YOU HELP.
I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
YOU JUST PLAN ALONG YOUR PROPERTY LINE.
AND I AM AVAILABLE, UH, FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS OR MEETINGS.
I'M REALLY OPEN TO WORKING WITH MY NEIGHBORS TO SURE.
THEY LOOK FORWARD TO BEING, UH, GOOD NEIGHBORS AND HAVING A GREAT NEIGHBORLY RELATIONS.
SO I THINK THAT YOU CAN SPEAK TO MR. JEAN BALAGE AND WORK THAT OUT, BUT THE DESIRE IS NOT REALLY TO BUILD A HOUSE, BUT TO HAVE A GREAT PLACE FOR HIS FAMILY AND HIS KIDS AND TO BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR TO YOU AND THE OTHER NEIGHBORS ON THE STREET.
THE ONLY THING I'D ADD, JUST FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IS THAT WHILE IT WAS INITIALLY MENTIONED AS A, A WOODEN PICKET FENCE, UM, IT WAS, THAT WAS CORRECTED.
IT'S GOING TO BE AN OPEN STYLE ALUMINUM RAIL FENCE, UM, SIMILAR TO THE ONE ON THE NEIGHBOR AT 16, WHICH I THINK YOU BECAME AWARE OF MR. QUITMAN AFTER.
UH, UH, NOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THAT, UH, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE HEARING, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THESE ADJUSTMENTS ARE MADE AS OPPOSED TO ADJOURNING IT, UH, TO ANOTHER DAY.
SO WHEN CAN, WHEN CAN ALL THIS INF IF THE QUESTION, CAN YOU HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION, UH, SUBMITTED WITHIN THE NEXT 10 DAYS? SO WHAT YES.
WHAT, WHAT DATE, WHAT WENT DAY? IF WE CLOSE THE HAIR AND WE KEEP THE RECORD OPEN TO WHAT DAY NOW? UH, FOR ONE WEEK
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UNTIL THE 26TH.PROVIDED, I WOULD SAY PROVIDED WE COULD GET THE MATERIALS IN BY CLOSE OF, WELL CLOSE OF BUSINESS MONDAY THE 24TH.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? IT'S GETTING SHORTER.
I GUESS THE REASON WHY I, YOU, YOU STARTED, THE REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE, UH, WE WOULD WANT TIME FOR STAFF TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND, UH, I'M JUST GONNA STOP THE SHARE SCREEN
YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, IT WOULD GIVE STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY, I'M SORRY, TO JUST ENSURE THAT, UH, THE PROPOSALS ACCEPTABLE AND, AND MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TREE ORDINANCE.
IT WOULD ALSO GIVE US TIME TO POST THE MATERIALS TO THE WEBSITE AND THE EVENT THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY FINAL COMMENTS ON THAT PLAN.
I'D ALSO BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY SHARE IT WITH MR. EQUIPMENT SO THAT HE SEES IT.
AND IF HE HAS ANY COMMENTS, HE CAN PUT THOSE IN WRITING AHEAD OF THE CLOSURE OF THE WRITTEN RECORD, WHICH WOULD BE SET FOR THE 26TH.
AND, AND, AND, UM,
WE'LL, MR. SHE LET MR. SHERMAN RESPOND TO THAT TO SEE IF IT'S DOABLE.
YEAH, WE MEET EVERY DEADLINE SO WE CAN, OKAY.
WELL, UH, SOMEHOW WE, WE APPRECIATE THE SPEED.
I JUST WANNA POINT OUT WE DO APPRECIATE THE SPEED BECAUSE THE HOMEOWNER DOES WANNA BEGIN TO WORK AS SOON AS PRACTICAL BECAUSE HE IS, UM, LIVING THERE OR GOING TO BE LIVING THERE WITH HIS FAMILY.
AND SO, AND THAT'S JUST SO WE CAN GET THIS RESOLVED AND GET HIM TO BE ABLE TO BEGIN THE WORK WOULD BE APPRECIATED AS WELL.
AND JUST, YEAH, JUST SO YOU MAKE SURE UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY, WHY WE'RE ASKING THIS IS IF WE GET THIS IN MONDAY OR TUESDAY, WE CAN HAVE THIS ON FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR DECISION.
IF IT GETS PUSHED BACK, THEN IT'S GOTTA WAIT UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY.
AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE, UH, I'M NOT GONNA PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR A DECISION UNLESS WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
SO IF YOU CAN GET ALL THE INFORMATION, THERE WILL BE A DECISION ON, UH, FOR THE, THE SECOND, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION, THEN WE WILL PUSH IT OFF TO A DATE WHEN WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORM BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION.
SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S RARE THE BALL IS REALLY IN YOUR COURT.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE CHANGES ARE REALLY ONLY TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
MAYBE THE ENGINEERING PLAN HAS TO CLARIFY THE FENCE TYPE, SO THAT'S CONSISTENT.
AND JUST ADDING THAT TREE REMOVAL.
ALL MR. THE BOARD MEMBERS, I, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
WE JUST WANNA HAVE A MOTION AND A VOTE.
SO THE MOTION CLOSE THE, THE, THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP OPEN UNTIL, WHAT WAS THAT DATE? YOU, YOU SAID THE 26TH.
WE'LL HAVE, YOU'LL HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE SO WE CAN MAKE THANK YOU AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
BUT AS I SAID, THE BALL'S IN YOUR COURT, BY THE WAY.
YOU'RE NOW A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
THE BAD NEWS IS THAT YOU HAVE A MAJOR SALARY CUT.
WELL, WE DID NEED AN ANCE NOW.
YES, THAT'S THE ESSENTIAL JUJITSU PROJECT LOCATED AT 10 COUNTY CENTER ROAD, P O Y PLAINS IN THE L O B LIMITED OFFICE BUILDING ZONING DISTRICT, THE APPLICANT SEEKS A SPECIAL PERMIT ASSOCIATED WITH A FULLY ENCLOSED COMMERCIAL RECREATION FACILITY AND A PLANNING BOARD SHARED PARKING REDUCTION FOR A PROPOSAL CONSISTING OF THE CONVERSION OF 7,975 SQUARE FEET OF VACANT OFFICE SPACE TO AN ESSENTIAL JUJITSU MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY SITE WORK AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
THE BUILDING ON SITE CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 168,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE, MUCH AS OF WHICH IS CURRENTLY VACANT, REQUIRING 560 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES WHERE 265 SPACES EXIST ON THE SITE.
PROPOSED CONVERSION OF 7,975 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE TO FULLY ENCLOSED COMMERCIAL RECREATION SPACE REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL 13 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES, WHICH THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SHARED PARKING REDUCTION FOR THE SITE PREVIOUSLY WAS GRANTED A SHARED PARKING REDUCTION OF 41 SPACES AS PART OF CASE NUMBER PB 14 DASH ZERO FIVE,
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KNOWN AS THE VICTORY TABERNACLE PRO PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONVERSION OF 3,475 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE TO A RELIGIOUS USE.THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT ITS EVENING CLASSES AFTER THE OFFICES IN THE BUILDING HAVE CLOSED CONSTITUTE THE MAJORITY OF ITS BUSINESS PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS MATTER DURING ITS MAY 5TH WORK SESSION WHERE THE BOARD RAISED CERTAIN QUESTIONS AND REQUESTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT.
THE BOARD ALSO ASKED MR. JOHN CANNING THE DOWNS TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, WHO IS PRESENT THIS EVENING TO REVIEW THE PROJECT FROM A TRAFFIC RELATED PERSPECTIVE AND PROVIDE HIS FINDINGS TO THE BOARD, WHICH HE'S PREPARED TO DO SO THIS EVENING.
THE APPLICANTS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING TO DETAIL THE REVISIONS TO THE PROJECT, PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME UP.
SOMEONE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE, UH, OF THE PROJECT REPRESENTATIVE? YES.
SO WOULD JUST ASK, UH, MS. GATO TO, UM, GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSAL.
I KNOW WE ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE LANDOWNER AS WELL.
I THINK I CAN TAKE OVER IF THAT'S OKAY.
UH, SO MY NAME IS MIKE MARLI OF MICHAEL LEWIS ARCHITECT, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF ESSENTIAL JUJITSU AND MR. JONATHAN TORRES.
UM, IF I CAN SHARE THE SCREEN, I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT.
SO, AS MR. SCHMIDT PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 158,000, UM, SQUARE FEET AND IS SITUATED, UH, AT THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY CENTER ROAD HERE AND OLD CONSECO ROAD HERE.
UM, THERE'S NO PROPOSED SITE WORK AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, AND THE BUILDING CONSISTS OF, UM, ABOUT 168,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE AND REQUIRES 560 OFF STREETS PARKING SPACES.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT UP HERE.
AND THEN PARKING ALONG THIS SIDE IN REAR OF THE BUILDING HERE.
UM, WE'RE PROPOSING A CONVERSION OF 7,975 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE TO FULLY ENCLOSED COMMERCIAL RECREATION SPACE IN THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING OVER HERE.
UH, MORE SPECIFICALLY, UH, JIUJITSU MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO, WHICH PROVIDES PRIVATE INSTRUCTION AND CLASSES FOR SMALL GROUPS OF STUDENTS OF DIFFERENT AGES.
UH, THE OWNER'S CURRENT SPACE IN HARD SALES, APPROXIMATELY 3000 SQUARE FEET, AND THEY'RE HOPING TO IMPROVE THEIR BUSINESS AND UPGRADE TO A LARGER SPACE.
UM, JUST TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE FLOOR PLAN HERE AGAIN, UH, THE PROPOSED STUDIO CONSISTS OF A RECEPTION AREA, WHICH IS ENTERED THROUGH THE REAR OF THE BUILDING ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
UM, YOU ALSO HAVE TWO MAT AREAS HERE, A WEIGHT AREA, LOCKER ROOMS, UM, SOME OFFICES AND SOME MISCELLANEOUS STORAGE ROOMS. THERE'S A SECOND POINT OF EGRESS THAT EXITS INTO THE SHARED HALLWAY HERE AND THEN OUT THROUGH THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING HERE.
UH, AND THE STORE WILL ALSO SERVE AS THE A D A ENTRANCE AND EXIT, WHICH ALSO EXITS OUT OVER THROUGH HERE.
SO, UM, FOLLOWING THE LAST PLANNING BOARD MEETING ON MAY 5TH, BECAUSE OF CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE FULTON PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION, THE PLANNING BOARD REQUESTED THE SERVICES OF THE TOWN TRAFFIC CONSULTANT JOHN CANNING, TO ASSIST IN THE PLANNING BOARD'S DISCUSSION, WHICH, UH, MR. SCHMIDT ALREADY STATED.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, RESPONSES TO MR. KANG'S COMMENTS REGARDING THE CURRENT AND PROPOSED BUILDING CONDITIONS EXPECTED TYPICAL CLASS SCHEDULES AND ARRIVAL DEPARTURE PLANS.
UM, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT HIS FINDINGS AND ALSO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OR THE PUBLIC.
THE OWNERS ARE HERE, MR. JONATHAN TORRES AND YOLANDAS GATO AND THE BUILDING OWNER, UH, MR. GANI BAKARI IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP.
UH, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH, UH, UM, MR. CANNON'S COMMENT ON TRAFFIC.
SO, UM, WE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION.
WE REVIEWED THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT OVER BY THE APPLICANT DETAILING THE, UH, SCHEDULE AND ATTENDANCE.
WE LOOKED AT DATA PROVIDED BY THE I T E FOR WHAT WE FELT WERE SIMILAR USES, WHICH INCLUDED A FITNESS OR HEALTH CLUB OR A RECREATION COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND, UM, BASED ON THIS DATA, WE DETERMINED THAT THE, UM, THE OCCUPANCY OF THIS BUILDING AS A HUNDRED PERCENT OFFICE AS COMPARED TO THE OCCUPANCY OF THIS BUILDING WITH, UH,
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THE EXISTING CHURCH AND THE PROPOSED MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO.UH, THE, THE BUILDING WITH THE MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO WOULD GENERATE 17 MORE TRIPS, UH, DURING THE PEAK P M R MOSTLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN OVERLAP OF CLASSES AT, UH, FOUR 15, ENDING AT 5 15, 5 15, ENDING AT SIX 15.
SO THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 17 VEHICLES, UH, PER HOUR, WHICH IS, I GUESS, LESS THAN ONE VEHICLE EVERY THREE MINUTES OR MORE THAN THREE MINUTES PER VEHICLE.
UM, WE ALSO LOOKED AT WHERE THESE VEHICLES WOULD ARRIVE FROM, DEPART FROM MOST OF THEM WILL ACTUALLY COME, UH, THROUGH THE INTERSECTION OF OLD KENSICO ROAD WITH, UH, TARRYTOWN ROAD, WHICH IS NEW YORK STATE, ONE 19 AN AQUEDUCT LANE.
BUT SOME OF THEM WILL, UH, OBVIOUSLY GO, UH, IN AND OUT, OR THEY'LL COME IN FROM EAST WESTBOUND ONE 19 ONTO, UH, UH, COUNTY CENTER ROAD AND THEN JUST TURN INTO THE DRIVEWAY THERE.
AND SOME OF THEM MAY GO IN AND OUT TO THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH ON OLD KENSICO ROAD IF THERE'S STUDENTS COMING IN FROM THERE.
SO WE ESTIMATE THAT OF THE 17 ADDITIONAL TRIPS, 13 WILL BE ADDED TO THE INTERSECTION OF OLD KENSICO ROAD WITH, UH, AQUEDUCT LANE OR AQUEDUCT ROAD AND NEW YORK ONE 19.
WE CONDUCTED A SYNCHRO ANALYSIS WHERE WE COMPARED FUTURE TRAFFIC VOLUMES WITH THE JUJITSU, UH, CENTER VERSUS FUTURE TRAFFIC VOLUMES WITHOUT THE JIUJITSU CENTER.
AND WE DETERMINED THAT THE ADDITIONAL 17 VEHICLES WOULD INCREASE, BY THE WAY, THAT'S ABOUT A HALF A PERCENT INCREASE IN THE PEAK R TRAFFIC VOLUMES IN THE P M P K R.
IT WOULD INCREASE THE OVERALL INTERSECTION DELAY BY LESS THAN A SECOND, AND IT WOULD INCREASE THE AVERAGE DELAY EXITING, UH, OLD KENSICO ROAD ONTO ONE 19 BY LESS THAN TWO SECONDS.
SO FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE ON THE SURROUNDING STREETS, IT'S A MODEST, UH, INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WITH A VERY MINOR INCREASE IN DELAYS.
UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE PROPOSED, UM, I GUESS TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AS, UH, UH, A NUMBER OF THEIR STUDENTS WILL BE DR.
UH, WILL BE, CHILDREN WILL BE DROPPED OFF BY THEIR PARENTS, AND WE FIND THAT THE PLAN IS REASONABLE AND ACCEPTABLE.
UH, WE WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND THAT, UH, PARKING OR WAITING NOT BE PERMITTED CURBSIDE ALONG THE BUILDING.
IT IT WOULD BE OKAY FOR PARENTS TO PULL UP IF THEIR CHILDREN ARE THERE AND HAVE THEM GET IN OR TO PULL UP AND HAVE THEIR CHILDREN TO GET OUT, BUT NOT TO WAIT FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO COME OUT.
UM, AND WE, UH, I ALSO LISTEN TO THE BOARD'S, UH, MEETING, LAST MEETING, DISCUSSING THIS APPLICATION, AND WOULD AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THERE WAS SOME WAY FINDING SIGNAGE, A COUPLE OF SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY, INDICATING THAT THERE WAS AN ALTERNATE WAY TO EXIT TO NEW YORK ONE 19 TO TARRYTOWN ROAD WESTBOUND, GOING TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY OUT ONTO COUNTY CENTER ROAD AND MAKING THE RIGHT TURN ONTO TARRYTOWN ROAD.
AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE PARKING PROJECTIONS AND COMPARED THE, UH, BUILDING WAS FULLY OCCUPIED AS OFFICE TO, WAS FULLY OCCUPIED WITH THE EXISTING CHURCH AND, UH, MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO, AND DETERMINED THAT DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY WHEN, UH, PARKING WOULD PEAK, UH, THERE COULD BE EXPECTED TO BE AN ADDITIONAL TWO PARKED VEHICLES AS A RESULT OF THE PROPOSED ACTION.
SO THAT WOULD INCREASE THE PROJECTED PARKING DEMAND FROM 347 TO 349 VEHICLES, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN THE CODE REQUIRED 400 AND SOMETHING VEHICLES.
UH, SO I THINK, I JUST WANNA CHECK MY NOTES HERE.
UH, THOSE ARE OUR, OUR FINDINGS BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE PROVIDED AND THE DATA THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT.
AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, MR. CHANING, UM, YOU SAID YOU, YOU, UM, USED A HEALTH CLUB AS, AS AN EXAMPLE, OR I GUESS AS A TEMPLATE FOR THIS AND, AND COMPARED IT TO A HEALTH CLUB, BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT.
UM, THIS IS, UM, ACTUALLY CLASSES THAT GET IN AND OUT AT A SPECIFIC TIME.
SO SAYING THERE'S 17 AN HOUR, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT CAN ONLY BE 17 IF YOU HAVE 25 STUDENTS OR EVEN 50 STUDENTS AT SOMETIMES WAS A TESTIMONY.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MATH IF, IF INDEED YOU HAVE 25 PEOPLE GETTING OUT AT FOUR O'CLOCK, OKAY.
THEY HAVE NO OTHER REASON TO STAY THERE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE STAGGERED BY MORE THAN 10 MINUTES PROBABLY.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU DO THE CALCULATIONS BASED ON THAT.
SO, UM, WE, I'M NOT SAYING WE BASED IT ON A FITNESS CLUB.
WE LOOKED AT A FITNESS CLUB, WE LOOKED AT A, A COMMUNITY RECREATION FACILITY BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE INDICATIVE OF WHETHER WE WERE IN THE RIGHT BALLPARK OR NOT.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE, UM, THE APPLICANT'S, UH, PROJECTED ENROLLMENT FOR CLASSES, UH,
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AND HOW THEY INDICATED THAT THEIR STUDENTS WOULD ARRIVE OR DEPART.AND SO THEY INDICATED THAT, UH, MANY OF THE STUDENTS CARPOOL AND OKAY, THAT HELPS.
AND THE, THE 17 VEHICLES, MR. SCHWARTZ WAS THE NET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IF THE BUILDING WAS OCCUPIED AS A HUNDRED PERCENT OFFICE VERSUS IF IT WAS OCCUPIED AS, UM, THE, THE MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO AND THE SCHOOL.
SO THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE TRAFFIC, BUT THE OFFICE OFFSETS SOME OF IT.
SO WE INDICATED, OR WE DETERMINED THAT THERE WOULD BE 30 TRIPS IN THE PEAK R BUT THAT 13 OF THOSE ARE OFFSET BY THE OFFICE.
WHAT ABOUT THE TIME COMPRESSION THOUGH? UM, WELL, THE TIME COMPRESSION IS COMPARABLE.
YES, YOU DO HAVE, UH, STUDENTS ARRIVING AND STUDENTS DEPARTING AT THE SAME TIME, BUT AT THE FIVE O'CLOCK HOUR, YOU HAVE PEOPLE BASICALLY LEAVING THE OFFICE AT THE, AROUND THE SAME TIME.
IT'S
I, BY THE WAY,
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DO ANYTHING TO DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CIRCLE OR, OR THAT LIGHT.
AND AS YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU WERE AROUND WHEN WE BUILT THE, WHEN WE APPROVED THE APARTMENT BUILDING BEHIND NESTOS AND FOR SOME OF THE NESTO STUFF, AND THE CONTROVERSY WITH THOSE, WHICH HAS NOT CAUSED, I AGREE, HAS CAUSED ABSOLUTELY NO TRAFFIC ISSUE OVER THERE WHATSOEVER.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WHAT, WHAT I, THE MY, WHERE I CAME OUT AND YOU'RE MORE OF AN EXPERT, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY AN EXPERT AND I'M NOT, BUT WHERE I CAME OUT IS TO ALLEVIATE THE POTENTIAL OF COMPRESSION WAS TO ENCOURAGE THEM OR REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE SIGNAGE TO RECOMMEND THEY GO OUT THE OTHER WAY THROUGH, THROUGH, UM, WHAT'S THAT ROAD IN THE, UM, CONVENTIONS COUNTY CENTER ROAD.
COUNTY CENTER ROAD TO KEEP, TO KEEP THEM, TO TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE CIRCLE THAT AND THE, AND THE LIGHT.
THAT WAS WHAT I WAS DOING THINKING, BECAUSE YOU GET FOUR OR FIVE, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY CLASSES THEY DO A DAY, TIMES, IT'S NOT JUST ONE, IT'S FOUR OR FIVE WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING IN GROUPS OF 25, MAYBE 50.
SO, UM, FOR THIS EVENING, I DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE BE PROVIDED OR WAY FINDING SIGNAGE BE PROVIDED, DIRECTING, UH, EXITING, UH, CUSTOMERS TO ONE 19 WESTBOUND VIA THE COUNTY CENTER ROAD.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU, AND WE I DID MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK WOULD, IF THEY DID THAT AND TRIED TO RECOMMEND PEOPLE SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD REALLY GO, IT'D BE GOOD IF YOU WENT OUT THAT WAY.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO, WELL, THERE IS A LIGHT THERE TOO.
UM, OR YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IT BECAUSE THERE'S A, THE LIGHT AT, AT, IN FRONT OF NESTOS.
UM, DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD, WOULD CONSIDERABLY ALLEVIATE THE ISSUE THAT, UH, OF THE CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORS? WELL, IT WILL, ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT WILL ALLEVIATE THE ISSUE SOMEWHAT.
UM, IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY BECAUSE I'M NOT A NEIGHBOR, WHETHER IT WILL ALLEVIATE THE, THE CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORS ALTOGETHER.
UM, THERE'S A LIMITED ABILITY OF, UH, THAT TO BE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE, UM, IT'S REALLY ONLY HELPFUL IF YOU'RE GOING WESTBOUND ON ONE 19.
IF YOU'RE GOING EASTBOUND ON ONE 19, THAT WOULD MEAN YOU'D HAVE TO CROSS THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC IN A SHORT DISTANCE TO GET TO THE LEFT TURN TO DO A U-TURN OR TO GO DOWN.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S DOESN'T WORK.
SO I MEAN, IT CERTAINLY HELPS.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE RECOMMENDED IT.
AND YES, THERE WILL BE, UM, MULTIPLE ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE AND DEPARTURE PERIODS, BUT IN A, IN A WAY THAT SPREADS THE ACTIVITY OUT RATHER THAN YES, AT THOSE PERIODS IT WILL BE CONCENTRATED, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ALL FIVE OF THEM OCCURRING AT THE SAME TIME.
SO YOU LOOK AT THE, YOU LOOK AT THE BUSIEST TIME, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT, UH, THE, THE FOUR 30 TO FIVE 30 PERIOD.
WELL, GIVEN WHAT YOU SAID, I, AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN DONE OTHER PLACES YOU HAVE SIGNAGE, I KNOW DOWN, UH, IN YONKERS IN HYBRID SHOPPING CENTER, THERE ARE SIGNS THAT SAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO CENTRAL AVENUE NORTH, GO THIS WAY.
IF YOU GO IN TO GO CENTRAL AVENUE YOURSELF, GO THIS WAY.
IS THAT A POSSIBLE SOLUTION THAT WE COULD, WE COULD PUT UP, UH, AT THAT IN OH, AND FOR THIS? YEAH.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WAS SUGGESTED AT YOUR MEETING, UH, AT YOUR LAST MEETING.
AND THAT'S WHAT I JUST REITERATED.
I SUGGESTED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING IN THAT, UH, EXACTLY
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THAT YOU HAVE SIGNS.IF YOU, IF YOU ARE GOING, UH, UH, UM, UH, THAT WILL BE WES, YOU KNOW, GO DOWN THE, UH, UH, WHAT IS THAT? UH, THAT'S NOT, WHAT IS THAT ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO THE COUNTY? THAT'S COUNTY CENTER ROAD.
AND, AND IF YOU WANT TO GO THE OTHER WAY, THEN YOU GO AROUND THE CIRCLE.
SO THE APPLICANT, I THINK, HAS SHARED THE SCREEN TO SHOW THAT THEY, THEY, UNLESS THAT WAS MR. CANNING, BUT, UH, TO SHOW THAT THEY, THEY CAN AND WILL PUT SIGNAGE AT BOTH THE, AT BOTH EXITS.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR INDIVIDUALS
AND ALSO, I THINK WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY IN THE, IN THE ORIENTATION MATERIAL.
I, I KNOW THE JUJITSU'S IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN DRIVING THERE.
UM, I GOT THE DRIVING DOWN, I DON'T HAVE THE JUJITSU DOWN, THAT'S FOR SURE.
UM, BUT IF THEY COULD, COULD EVEN RECOMMEND IT TO THE STUDENTS, THAT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CANNING.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, UH, FOR MR. CANNING OR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? OKAY.
IF NOT CHAIR, I CAN, UH, ADVISE YOU WHO SENT, UH, CORRESPONDENCE IN AND THEN WE CAN GO TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE.
SO WE'VE HAD, UM, CORRESPONDENCE FROM, UH, THOMAS BOCK IS PRESIDENT OF THE FULTON PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION FROM MS. LIZ LIZETTE, UH, JANSSEN, JOCELYN FLORES, DAMIEN RIVERA, ANDREW LEE LEE, AND JOEY ELLO.
I HOPE I PRONOUNCED EVERYONE'S NAME AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO CORRECT, UH, CORRECTLY.
YOUR RE YOUR COMMENTS ARE IN THE RECORD.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU CANNOT SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE YOUR COMMENTS.
SO THAT FORMS PART OF THE RECORD, AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN ADDITION TO THOSE FOLKS, WE DID RECEIVE, UH, A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL EMAILS WITH REQUESTS TO SPEAK AT THE MEETING.
WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS ON, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, GOOD TO TURN THINGS OVER TO THE PUBLIC, IF YOU WOULD CHAIR CHRISTENSEN? YES, PLEASE DO SO HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST, UH, SIX OR MORE.
THE FIRST I SEE IS, UM, MR. ELLO ELLO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, JOE, JOE TO THANK YOU, AARON.
HOW, HOW ARE YOU HERE, SIMON? HOW YOU DOING? BOARD MEMBERS, UM, MY NAME'S JOE ELLO.
UM, BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 2000 SINCE 2007.
UM, I LIVE APPROXIMATELY, PROBABLY A, A HAIR OVER A HALF A MILE FROM THIS LOCATION.
UM, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA.
UM, BEEN HERE BEFORE C V S BEFORE THEIR APARTMENTS, UM, BEEN HERE BEFORE NESTOS HAS BEEN BUILT OR WHEN IT WAS EMPTY.
UM, I, I UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS OFFICE BUILDING HAS BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, SO IT'S GREAT THAT, UM, ESSENTIAL JUUJITSU IS, UM, BUILDING SOMETHING THERE AND FINALLY GETTING A SPOT, UM, IN THAT OFFICE BUILDING.
UM, IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A FEW SLIDES AND I, I'LL BE ON MY WAY.
UH, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE WITH ESSENTIAL JIUJITSU AND JUST GIVE YOU SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE MAKING ANY DECISIONS.
SO, JUST TO, TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE, UM, IDEA THAT I, I I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH ESSENTIAL JIUJITSU FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS, SO THIS IS A LOT OF IT.
MY EXPERIENCE ON WHERE I'VE BEEN SEEING FROM THE HARTSDALE LOCATION THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD PROBABLY CONSIDER, UM, THIS, THIS FACILITY IS NOT A PLANET FITNESS.
UH, PEOPLE DON'T COME IN AND OUT ALL DAY.
UM, THEY HAVE SPECIFIC CLASSES LIKE A LOT OF YOU GUYS MENTIONED, UM, AND MANY OF THEM ARE AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK.
UM, STUDENTS DON'T ALL LEAVE AT THE SAME TIME.
I, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU THINK IT'S GONNA BE LIKE AN HOUR EVERY HOUR, PEOPLE JUST LEAVE.
I THINK IT'S A LOT TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY HAVE THERE.
UM, THEY SHOWER, THEY ASK QUESTIONS, LITERALLY THERE'S TIMES AFTER CLASSES WILL BE OPEN AND THERE'LL BE PEOPLE THERE JUST TALKING TO EACH OTHER, TRYING TO LEARN AND TRAIN.
UM, OR THEY SIMPLY, LITERALLY YOU HAVE STUDENTS THAT WILL ATTEND CLASSES BACK TO BACK TO BACK.
SO YOU MAY START SOMETHING AT FIVE, BUT YOU MAY NOT LEAVE TO THAT LAST CLASS.
UM, A MAJORITY OF ESSENTIAL JIUJITSU STUDENTS, I THINK THIS WAS ALSO MENTIONED, THEY TAKE MASS TRANSIT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
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WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING FOR THIS LOCATION BEING THAT THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO HARSDALE TRAIN STATION, THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE THEIR STUDENTS BE ABLE TO TAKE MASS TRANSIT STILL, UM, CARPOOLING.UM, MY, MY CHILD IS IN THE KIDS' CLASSES, A GOOD MAJORITY, A MAJORITY OF THEM DO CARPOOL.
UM, THERE IS, IT'S PRETTY COMMON TO SEE KIDS COMING OUT OF A, A CAR, YOU KNOW, UH, ALLEVIATING A LOT OF THE, THE CAR ISSUES THAT YOU MAY BE SEEING OR YOU SHOULD CONSIDER.
UM, ALSO TOO, I THINK YOU GUYS MENTIONED ABOUT LIKE, UH, THE, THE STUDENTS, UM, GETTING COMMUNICATION ON WHAT TO DO PROPERLY.
UM, THE ONE THING I DO KNOW WITH THEM, THEY HAVE EMAIL BLASTS.
THERE'S NUMEROUS WHATSAPP CHATS, UM, ON JUST TELLING INDIVIDUALS THE NEW RULES OR ANY PRIORITIES THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF FOR THE WEEK, OR JUST COMMUNICATE WITH THE MEMBERS ON WHAT TO DO, UH, FOR THEIR STUDENTS.
UM, ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION IN THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES IS WHAT THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, JT AND YOLANDA ARE CONSTANTLY GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
THE ONE THING I NOTICED IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS IS THEY'RE CONSTANTLY ASKING LIKE, HEY, UM, IS THERE ANY ANY WAY THAT I CAN HELP OUT ON ANY UN UNDERPRIVILEGED KIDS? UM, THEY GIVE OUT SCHOLARSHIPS TO, TO THAT.
THERE'S A TIME THAT I WORKED WITH THEM WITH WHITE PLAIN SCHOOLS, UM, TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY KIDS THAT REALLY COULD USE A SCHOLARSHIP FOR GYM MEMBERSHIPS.
UH, HE'S A POTENTIAL SPEAKER AT THE MOUNT VERNON SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, AS A MINORITY BUSINESS OWNER, UM, AND ATHLETE DURING CAREER DAY.
UH, ONE THING, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND WE'RE, WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH AND IT'S MORE ABOUT HOW HE GIVES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, BOTH HIM AND YOLANDA.
UH, THEY HELPED A LOT OF US DURING, UH, COVID.
UH, LITERALLY WHEN WE WERE ALL SHUT DOWN, THEY WERE STILL DOING ZOOM CLASSES FOR, WITH ALL THE KIDS.
UM, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT.
THEY COULD HAVE SHUT DOWN LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT THEY, THEY DID HAVE CLASSES FOR THE KIDS.
AND I KNOW ME, I HAVE TWO KIDS, UM, AND MANY OTHER PARENTS ARE PROBABLY ON THIS CALL RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY WERE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
UH, THEY CHANGED LIVES AND NOT JUST MY MINE IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
UM, SHE HAD, UH, MULTIPLE LEARNING ISSUES, PHYSICAL ISSUES, AND, UH, THEY MADE HER A SILVER MEDAL.
SO, UM, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE KIDS.
UM, JUST LIKE THEY DID TO HER.
THEY, THEY'VE DONE NUMEROUS JOBS ON ALL OF THEM.
THEY ALL COME IN FOR REASONS AND THEY TAKE CARE OF THEM.
SO WE DO HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF OTHER SPEAKERS.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
UM, I'VE BEEN A PART OF THE GREENBERG COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS.
UM, I DO A LOT OF COACHING AND STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING.
UM, I WORK IN THE HARTSDALE AREA WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED NOW.
UM, I'M VERY FRIENDLY WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES THERE.
I'VE BEEN IN THAT AREA ALSO FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS.
AND ALL OF THEM HAVE HAD SUCCESS WITH THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE ESSENTIAL JIUJITSU BEING THERE.
AND WHENEVER I TALK TO THEM ABOUT ESSENTIAL JIUJITSU, THEY KNOW US BECAUSE WE LOVE TO WEAR THE, UH, ESSENTIAL JIU JITSU LOGO ON OUR CLOSED.
AND, UM, WHETHER IT'S THE BUSINESS OF ESSENTIAL, UM, THE STUDENTS AND, AND THE OWNERS, JT AND YOLANDA, EVERYBODY, IF YOU GUYS SPEAK TO THEM, SAY HOW, HOW POSITIVE EVERYBODY IS AND HOW WELL, UM, IT'S HELPED THEIR BUSINESS IN THAT AREA.
UM, ALSO BEING IN THE FITNESS INDUSTRY FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, I KNOW YOUR GUYS' CONCERN WITH THE COMPARISON TO, UM, FITNESS GYMS LIKE, UH, EQUINOX OR NEW YORK SPORTS CLUB, ASIDE FROM PERSONAL TRAINING AND REGULAR FLOW OF TRAFFIC, THEY ALSO HAVE REGULAR CLASSES.
THEY HAVE HI CLASSES, SPIN CLASSES, YOGA CLASSES WHERE THEY HAVE LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE COME IN AND GO IN AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I DO BELIEVE FOR YOUR GUYS' CONCERN, IT WAS A GOOD COMPARISON.
UM, THE MORNING CLASSES ARE MUCH SMALLER.
THE EVENING CLASSES, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE SAID, UM, ARE MOSTLY AFTER THE MAIN TRAFFIC TIMES.
I DON'T SEE ANYBODY NEEDING TO DRIVE THROUGH THE TOWN, SO THERE'S NO CONCERN OF THAT.
PEOPLE WOULD JUST COME AND GO TO THE MAIN, THE
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MAIN ROADS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SIGNAGE THAT YOU GUYS REQUESTED.UM, FOR ME, I'VE, I'VE TRAINED AND COMPETED AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF WRESTLING.
I WAS ON A PART OF THE OLYMPIC TRAINING TEAM, AND SO I'VE BEEN AROUND THE UNITED STATES AND TRAINED AT VERY HIGH LEVEL FACILITIES.
UM, JT IS VERY, VERY MODEST AND, UM, YOU GUYS WILL NEVER HEAR IT FROM HIM.
IN THE LAST MEETING, THE GUY MENTIONED THAT HE'S ONE OF THE, THE TOP JIUJITSU PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE UNITED STATES, BUT THE WORLD.
AND HE'S EVEN BETTER THAN THAT.
HE'S NOT JUST ONE OF THE TOP GUYS.
UM, THERE'S A TOURNAMENT CALLED ABU DHABI.
IT'S THE A D C C, IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT, IT'S LIKE THE OLYMPICS FOR JUJITSU.
HE'S WON THAT THE PAST TWO TIMES IN A ROW.
UM, HE IS THE BEST OF THE BEST IN HIS FACILITY.
AND WHITE PLAINS IS GONNA BE A TOP TIER FACILITY.
AND, UH, IT WOULD BE A SHAME FOR YOU GUYS NOT TO APPROVE IT.
UM, I'VE SPOKEN TO THE PEOPLE WITH RITE AID, THE, UH, THE NEW GYM THAT THEY HAVE, HYDROGEN FITNESS, ALL THE RESTAURANTS, THE BARBER SHOP BAGELS, AND MORE THE CLEANERS, THEY ALL HAD NOTHING BUT POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT ESSENTIAL JUJITSU.
UM, AND I HAPPEN TO CO-CHAIR AS WELL.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS BOARD APPROVE AND UH, I CAN PASS IT ON TO WHOEVER'S NEXT TO SPEAK.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? UH, WE HAVE MS. LISETTE JANSSEN.
UM, I WANTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF JU ESSENTIAL JUJITSU WITH YOLANDA AND JT TORRES.
UM, JUST TO DOUBLE BACK ON THE MASS TRANSIT, UM, I CURRENTLY LIVE IN THE BRONX.
MY TWO CHILDREN AND MYSELF, WE TRAIN OUT OF ESSENTIAL JIUJITSU.
MY 14 YEAR OLD, UM, STARTED TAKING THE METRO NORTH UP TO THE CENTRAL JIUJITSU ON HER OWN AFTER SCHOOL TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN THERE.
SHE INSISTED ON TRAINING THERE.
SHE DOES NOT WANT TO TRAIN ANYWHERE ELSE WITHIN NEW YORK CITY OR LOWER WESTCHESTER.
UM, SO THE FACT THAT THEY SOUGHT AND LOOKED FOR A, A SPACE THAT IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO NASH TRANSIT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR NOT JUST MY FAMILY, BUT OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER FAMILIES, PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO MAKE THE COMMUTE INTO YOUR, INTO YOUR TOWN.
AND I THINK IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THE ONLY FAMILY COMING FROM THE BRONX, WE ARE ALSO COMMUTING FROM GOING BACK INTO THE CITY, GOING BACK TO WORK, AND WORKING IN MANHATTAN.
IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TAKING CLASSES 'CAUSE I CAN JUST GET ONTO THE METRO NORTH, TAKE IT TO THE Y PLAIN STATION AND CONTINUE, UH, MY TRAINING AS WELL.
AND THAT DOESN'T ADD TO ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE I WILL BE WALKING FROM
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S AWARE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT ALL JUST DRIVING.
UM, IF MY CHILD NEEDS TO GET A RIDE HOME FROM ONE OF THE OTHER PARENTS, THERE'S ALWAYS ANOTHER PARENT THAT'S WILLING TO PICK UP MY CHILD AND, YOU KNOW, BRING THEM TO ANOTHER LA LOCATION.
SO I DON'T SEE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ISSUE WITH ANY TRAFFIC OR, UM, ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
SORRY, I'M ACTUALLY ON MY WAY TO WORK.
I'M ACTUALLY, UM, A STUDENT AT ESSENTIAL JIUJITSU.
SO I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THEM.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID BEFORE ME, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, I DON'T WANNA REITERATE IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S A GREAT BUSINESS.
THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AMAZING INSTRUCTORS.
EVERYONE THERE, UM, ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY ACTIVE, HAVE SELF-DEFENSE, AND BASICALLY GIVES US A BETTER LIFESTYLE AND A WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, ABOUT MYSELF, I'M ACTUALLY, UM, AN I C U NURSE AT WESTCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER, AND I'M ALSO ONE OF THE VACCINE ADMINISTRATORS ACTUALLY AT COUNTY CENTER.
SO I IRONICALLY LIVE IN FULTON GARDENS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM 10 COUNTY CENTER ROAD.
SO SINCE I'M A NURSE AT THE MEDICAL CENTER, I'M FREQUENTLY IN AND OUT OF MY APARTMENT AT RANDOM HOURS OF THE DAY, RUSH HOUR, ESPECIALLY.
'CAUSE AS WE KNOW, HOSPITAL NEVER STOPS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I REALLY NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT MUCH TRAFFIC PER SE.
IT'S A CIRCLE OBVIOUSLY, SO THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT OUTLETS.
UM, SO I THINK THAT, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDING THE BUSINESS THERE WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO ANY TYPE OF CONGESTION IN THE FULTON
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GARDEN CIRCLE.UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, ESPECIALLY SINCE, YOU KNOW, I'M A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, A STUDENT OF THEIRS, AND ALSO SINCE I ACTUALLY LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL LOCATION OF ESSENTIAL JIUJITSU.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, WE HAVE EVERETT RO NO, HE'S NOT.
OH, WE WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
OH, HI, HOW ARE YOU? HI THERE.
HI, HOW ARE YOU? UM, JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO TO EVERYONE.
UM, I AM ALSO A, A CENTRAL JUDICIAL MEMBER, AND, UH, BASICALLY EVERYONE KIND OF HIT ON ALL THE, UH, THE SAME THINGS THAT, UH, EVERYONE'S BEEN SAYING IS THAT I THINK UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRAFFIC, UM, IS GONNA BE LIMITED BASED ON, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE CLASS.
SO I THINK WE KIND OF ESTABLISHED THAT IT'S GONNA BE STAGGERED.
AND I THINK, UH, THE PERCEPTION AT FIRST WAS A LITTLE BIT, UM, SKEWED.
BUT, UM, JUST GOING BACK, UH, THIS YEAR, OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY KNOWS THE HARDSHIP.
UM, I JUST WANNA REITERATE WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE YOU'RE DEALING WITH WHEN YOU DEAL WITH JT AND YOLANDA.
WHEN COVID HIT, THEY HAD CALLED AND, YOU KNOW, JT WAS LIKE, EVERETT, I DON'T KNOW, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE SCHOOL.
I SAID, WE GOTTA STAY FOCUSED AND NEVER GIVE UP.
AND THE HARDSHIP THAT I'VE SEEN THEM GO THROUGH AND THE MEMBERS AND ALL THE MENTAL STRESS THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON THEM AND EVERYBODY THROUGH, THROUGH, UM, THIS YEAR, IT'S LIKE, I JUST WANNA SEE 'EM CATCH A BREAK.
AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT, THERE'S NO BETTER PEOPLE TO HAVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAN THEM.
IT BRINGS SUCH DIVERSITY, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
I, I MEAN, I TRAIN WITH MILITARY, I TRAINED WITH GREENBERG COPS, I TRAINED WITH DETECTIVES.
I TRAINED WITH ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT I WOULD NEVER COME ACROSS WITH SOMETIMES JUST IN MY DAY-TO-DAY LIFE.
AND TO SEE US ALL STICK TOGETHER.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT COMMUNITY IS ABOUT.
AND I THINK THAT IF GREENBERG, I, I REMEMBER WORKING IN GREENBERG, I HAD BUSINESSES IN WHITE PLAINS BEFORE THE WHITE PLAINS BOOM.
AND I JUST THINK THAT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD A COMMUNITY, THIS IS THE WAY YOU BUILD A COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS THE RIGHT STEP GOING FORWARD, IS TO HAVE THESE SMALL BUSINESSES AND TYPES OF ATMOSPHERES WHERE EVERYBODY'S WELCOME.
UM, THEY'RE NOT LIMITED TO ANY TYPE OF, OF, UH, LIMITATIONS TOWARDS ANYONE.
I MEAN, YOU GET ANY TYPE OF, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, JOE'S DAUGHTER SUFFERS FROM DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA ADD A POSITIVE TO YOUR ENVIRONMENT.
UM, AND JUST TRY TO THINK, UM, LIKE I SAID, I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT PHONE CALL.
AND I SAID, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT GIVING UP.
AND TO THINK THAT A BUSINESS THAT WAS ON THE VERGE OF CLOSING IS NOW LOOKING TO EXPAND WITHIN THE SAME YEAR.
I MEAN, I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU GUYS REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS AND GIVE THAT APPROVAL.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT, IT'LL ONLY BE A, A, A GREAT THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
ALL THE PEOPLE OUT IN JIUJITSU WE'RE ALL MARTIAL ARTISTS AND WE WE'RE BASICALLY RESPECTFUL.
WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT LOUD PEOPLE.
AND, UM, HOPEFULLY, UH, YOU GUYS FIND IT WITHIN YOURSELVES TO, TO GIVE THAT APPROVAL FOR THEM, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT'S ONLY GONNA BE AN ASSET FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
AND I'M GLAD THAT I HEARD YOU GUYS SPEAK AND I THINK YOU GUYS RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NOT LIKE A, A FULL FLEDGED GYM IN RESPECT TO, UM, COULD YOU WRAP UP, UM, MR. LADO? YES.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY OTHER FOLKS ON THAT WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, BUT IF THERE ARE KINDLY SPEAK UP AND WE JUST ASK THAT, UM, NOT TO REPEAT ANY OF THE, YOU KNOW, SAME COMMENTS THAT OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED.
YOU CAN SAY YOU AGREE WITH ANOTHER SPEAKER AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE RECORD OPEN.
SO, UH, IF YOU DON'T WISH TO SPEAK, JUST SEND A LETTER, UH, JUST GET IT TO US WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AS WELL.
UM, BEFORE WE, BEFORE, UH, UM, WE, WE CLOSE, I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ALSO.
UM, BACK IN THE, I GUESS IT WAS THE NINETIES WHEN VERIZON BUILDING WAS FULLY OCCUPIED, I BELONGED TO A REGIONAL PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION AND WE USED TO MEET PERIODICALLY AT THAT SITE.
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AT THAT TIME, THAT PARK, THAT BUILDING WAS FULL, THE PARKING LOT WAS FULL.AND THAT WAS, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT CREATED ANY UNUSUAL, UH, UH, TRACTOR FLOW AT THAT SITE.
GRANTED, SINCE THAT TIME, YOU HAVE THAT HOUSING, UH, UH, UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND YOU HAVE THE, THE DRIVING, UM, UH, UH, RESTAURANT THERE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THAT SITE CREATED, WHICH I DON'T THINK THAT I, THERE'S ANY GREAT ISSUE WITH THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS AND THE FACT THAT THAT VERIZON BUILDING IS FAR FROM BEING FULLY OCCUPIED.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMMENTS FROM JOHN CANNON, YOU KNOW, UH, I'VE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE, IT IS A, UH, A, A A A VIABLE APPLICATION.
UH, BUT WE'LL KEEP THE RECORD OPEN FOR FURTHER COMMENTS UNTIL, UM, STAFF WOULD SUGGEST MAY 26TH.
AND AT, AT THAT POINT, UH, UH, WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
SO, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL MAY 26TH? SO MOVED.
SO WE IS SOMEONE FROM CAPTAIN LAWRENCE, FROM CAPTAIN, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CAPTAIN LAWRENCE HERE.
SO, UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I JUST, UH, I'LL CIRCLE BACK TO JUST MAKE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF THE PROJECT AND THEN WE CAN GET RIGHT INTO IT.
THE NEXT AND FINAL HEARING ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING IS CASE NUMBER PB 20 DASH 16.
CAPTAIN LAWRENCE LOCATED AT 4 44 SAW MILL RIVER ROAD, P O ELMSFORD IN THE PD NON-RESIDENTIAL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS STEEP SLOPE AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPROVALS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 36 SPACE PARKING AREA WITH A NEW CURB CUT ON CLEARBROOK ROAD TO ACCESS THE PROPOSED PARKING AREA AND A STAIRWELL LEADING FROM THE PROPOSED PARKING AREA TO AN EXISTING PARKING AREA.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE REMOVAL OF 53 REGULATED TREES REQUIRING A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT AND IS PREPARED A LANDSCAPING PLAN CALLING FOR THE PLANTING OF VARIOUS TREE SHRUBS AND GROUND COVERS AS REPLACEMENT PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS MATTER DURING ITS APRIL 21ST WORK SESSION WHERE THE BOARD RAISED CERTAIN QUESTIONS AND REQUESTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT THIS EVENING, THE DETAIL, THE PROJECT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS REVIEW THE REVISIONS SINCE THE LAST MEETING WITH THE BOARD.
AND AS WELL, UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE.
SO I TURN IT OVER TO MR. CATONE.
AND, UM, GOOD EVENING, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.
WE ARE THE SITE CIVIL ENGINEERS FOR THE, UH, CAPTAIN LAWRENCE PROJECT.
WE ALSO HAVE WITH US TONIGHT SCOTT RO.
HE'S THE, UM, OWNER OF, UH, CAPTAIN LAWRENCE BREWERY.
AND, UM, I REALIZED THAT, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, I'LL JUST TAKE YOU THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
UH, UM, SO I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN IF THAT'S OKAY.
AND, UM, SO THE CAPTAIN WARD SITE IS, UH, LOCATED ON, UM, THE SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
IT'S ON THE NORTHBOUND, UH, SIDE, UH, TO THE, UM, NORTH OF STRAIGHT UP.
UM, TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS CLEARBROOK ROAD, AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON THE SHEET, BUT THE BOTTOM OF THE SHEET, UH, THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SITE IS, UM, HUNTER LANE, UH, THE PROPERTY LINE, UM, TO THE NORTH ABUTS ANOTHER, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL, UH, PD DISTRICT PROPERTY.
UM, SO, UH, THERE'S REALLY NO, UM, UH, IMPACTS TO RESIDENTIAL HERE.
UM, THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING A, UM, PARKING AREA, UM, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE.
UM, UH, IF I COULD JUST BACK UP
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ONE MINUTE THERE.UH, BLUE LINE SHOOTING IS ON THE NORTH, UH, WEST SIDE, UH, DOM'S PIZZA.
THERE'S A SELF STORAGE, UH, FACILITY.
UH, AND IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY IS, UM, CAPTAIN LAWRENCE, UH, EITHER MANUFACTURING OR THEY DO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT A BREW, UH, PUMP, UH, WHERE YOU COULD GET FOOD AND, UM, UH, DRINKS.
UM, SO THIS NEW PARKING LOT, 36 SPACES IS PROPOSED ON THE NORTH SIDE OFF OF CLEARBROOK.
THE GRADES ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT ARE SUCH THAT, UM, WE CANNOT CONNECT, UH, THE TWO PARKING LOTS.
UM, SO, UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING A, A SEPARATE ENTRANCE.
IT IS IN A, IN A LOCATION WHERE, UM, THERE'S EVIDENCE, UM, THAT A, A DRIVEWAY EXISTED, ALTHOUGH NOT, NOT TO THIS SIZE, BUT THAT THERE WAS A, A DRIVEWAY THERE AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST.
UM, SO WE PROVIDED THE BREAKDOWN OF PARKING.
UM, CURRENTLY THE, THE, UH, PROJECT IS, IS, UM, SLIGHTLY UNDER PARKED, UM, UNDER THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WITH A HUNDRED AND, UM, 184 SPACES REQUIRED AND ONLY 180 AVAILABLE.
UH, THERE WAS A PREVIOUS, UM, ACTION BY THIS BOARD TO ALLOW A SHARED, UH, EIGHT SHARED, UH, SPACE USE FOR DOM'S PIZZA.
UM, THE 36 SPACES PUTS THIS, UH, OVERALL SITE INTO COMPLIANCE IN, IN MANY WAYS.
ONE IS THE, UM, OVERALL PARKING, UH, SPACES WOULD GO UP TO TWO 15, UM, WITH THE ADDITIONAL SPACES.
UM, NOW SOME OF YOU MAY CHALLENGE ME AND SAY, WELL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROPOSING 36 SPACES, BUT THERE'S ONLY 35 DIFFERENCE IN THE TABLE.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE ALSO TOOK THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOUNT ALL OF THE EXISTING SPACES, INCLUDING THE A D A SPACES AND, UM, MAKE THE SITE A D A COMPLIANT.
SO ONE OF THE SPACES THAT WAS LOST IS, UH, THIS SPACE ON THE, UH, NORTH SIDE, NORTHEAST SIDE, UH, WHICH WE ADDED.
WE WERE HATCHING THAT OUT, UH, TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL A D A SPACE.
UM, WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING AN A D A SPACE, UM, IN FRONT OF THE, UM, UH, WHAT I'LL CALL THE, THE RETAIL PORTION OF THE, THE PROJECT WERE DOM'S PIZZA AND, AND BLUE LINE SHOOTING.
AND I BELIEVE THIS IS AN OFFICE SUPPLY ON THE CORNER.
UM, SO WE ADDED ONE ADDITIONAL SPACE THERE AND ONE ADDITIONAL SPACE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
SO THE SITE NOT ONLY COMPLIES WITH THE OVERALL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, BUT ALSO WITH THE NUMBER OF A D A REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR THE SITE.
UM, WE DID NOT PROPOSE ANY A D A SPACES IN THE NEW PARKING LOT, UH, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A STAIRCASE HERE.
AND, UM, UH, WE JUST THOUGHT CLOSER TO THE BUILDING IS WHERE THOSE SPACES NEED TO BE.
UM, WE ARE REMOVING QUITE A BIT OF TREES AT 63 TREES.
JUST GOTTA CHECK MY 63 TREES OF THOSE TREES.
THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, THAT ARE INVASIVE, UM, WHICH, UH, WILL BE REMOVED.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, WITH, UH, THE, UM, ARBORIST, THE TOWN ARBORIST USING THE, THE NEW, UM, TREE REMOVAL GUIDELINES OR, OR, UM, REQUIREMENTS USING THE SOFTWARE.
AND, UM, I HAVE TO SAY WITH, WITH A LOT OF, UM, HELP FROM, UM, AARON SCHMIDT AND FROM, UM, FROM THE A ARBOR, UH, SPEND, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO REVISE THE TREE REMOVAL APPLICATION, AND NOW WE'RE JUST IN THE PROCESS
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OF, UM, GETTING YOU A REVISED FEE.UH, SO WE SUBMITTED A FEE, UH, WITH THE LAST APPLICATION, WHICH WAS HIGHER, UH, THAN REQUIRED BECAUSE THE INVASIVE SPECIES, UM, ARE NOT COUNTED AGAINST THE FEE.
UM, WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, GRADING, UM, NO OFFSITE GRADING.
SO ALL OF OUR GRADING IS ENTIRELY WITHIN OUR PROPERTY LINE WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME MINOR GRADING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THE ENTRANCE.
WE WILL BE REMOVING A PORTION OF THE STONE WALL.
IT'S A DRY STACKED STONE WALL, SO, UH, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE PERFECT PERPENDICULAR, UH, EDGES ON THE TOPS AND SIDES, BUT WE ARE GOING TO, AND THERE'S A NOTE ON ONE OF THESE PLANS THAT WE ARE GOING TO FRESHEN UP THAT WALL.
AND IF THERE'S ANY MISPLACED STONES, WE'LL, WE'LL CLEAN IT UP, REMOVE THE VEGETATION FROM A, AROUND IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS TALL GRASSES, JUST MAINTENANCE TYPE OF THINGS, UH, JUST TO, UM, UH, GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESENCE TO THAT WALL, THE WALL'S IN, IN PRETTY DECENT SHAPE.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A LOT OF WORK, UM, TO DO THAT.
BUT WE JUST, IT WAS A COMMENT FROM THIS BOARD, AND WE WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT.
WE DID CONDUCT TEST PITS AND PERCOLATION TESTS IN THE AREA OF THE PARKING LOT, AND WE'RE PROPOSING A, A SUBSURFACE, UM, DETENTION SYSTEM TO CAPTURE AND TREAT THE ADDITIONAL RUNOFF RESULTING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO TO PROVIDE THE, UM, REQUIRED WATER QUALITY AND RAINFALL, UM, REDUCTION VOLUMES FOR THE PROJECT.
UH, THAT SYSTEM WILL OVERFLOW INTO THE, UH, UH, NEW 12 INCH PIPE TO AN EXISTING DRAIN, AND ULTIMATELY AROUND THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, WHERE IT, IT ULTIMATELY, UH, UH, GOES INTO A, UH, A SMALL, UH, CREEK, UM, THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO CLEARBROOK AND, UM, OR MAYBE IT'S A BROOK, HENCE THE NAME.
UM, UH, SO, UH, AND DISCHARGE INTO THAT, THAT CREEK, AGAIN, WE ARE PROVIDING THE REQUIRED WATER QUALITY AND THE REQUIRED, UH, MITIGATION AS FAR AS FLOW MITIGATION, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, WE HAVE DEVELOPED A, AN EROSION SEMI CONTROL PLAN WITH YOUR TYPICAL CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE IN LAB PROTECTION AND SUCH.
UM, AS FAR AS, UM, CONTRACTOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FIELD OFFICES, UH, WE ASSUME THERE'S GONNA BE SOME ACCOMMODATION IN THE EXISTING BUILDING FOR THAT.
UM, SO WE ALSO PROVIDED A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN.
UM, SO LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, UH, THIS PLAN WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
WE DID NOT HAVE THIS, THIS, UM, POLE MOUNTED LIGHT OVER THE STAIRCASE.
UM, WE DID HAVE SOME LOWER BOLLARD LIGHTING HERE.
WE ALSO HAD, UM, BOLLARD LIGHTING ON EITHER SIDE OF, OF THE NEW ENTRANCE.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE ADDED A POLE MOUNTED LIGHT, UH, AT THE LANDING BETWEEN THE TWO STAIRS GOING DOWN.
AND I THINK THAT GIVES, UH, THAT WAS A COMMENT FROM THIS BOARD AND A VERY GOOD COMMENT, AND I THINK THAT GIVES A MUCH BETTER LIGHT DISTRIBUTION, UM, FOR THAT AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE GET SOME SPILLOVER INTO THE LOWER LOT, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS A TERRIBLE THING.
WE'VE ALSO ADDED A SECOND LUMINAIRE ON, UM, A PROPOSED POLE, UM, JUST TO LIGHT UP THIS ENTRANCE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, AND WE'VE REMOVED THE, THE TWO BOLLARD LIGHTING, UM, UH, THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY SHOWN.
UH, WE'VE CREATED A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
WE'VE DEVELOPED A LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, AS MITIGATION FOR THE TREES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
UM, THIS MITIGATION PLAN PROVIDES 90% OF THE, UH, REMOVAL, UH, BENEFIT AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO GET CLARIFICATION ON.
AND AGAIN, UM, UH, STAFF WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST MORE THAN HELPFUL ON THIS.
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BUT EVEN OUR PREVIOUS MITIGATION PLAN WAS ALREADY AT OVER 60% AND WE WERE SHOOTING FOR 30.SO, UM, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THIS, THIS PLAN, THEIR, UM, THEIR NATIVE SPECIES.
WE DO HAVE SOME LOWER SHRUBS FLANKING THE, UH, WALKWAY JUST TO SOFTEN THAT A LITTLE BIT.
AND, UM, WE'VE PROVIDED PROFILES AND SECTIONS THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND OUR, UH, GENERAL SITE DETAILS.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, READY TO GO, UM, A STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN, UH, WHICH I DON'T WANT TO TEST MY MEMORY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE MAY HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED THAT TO, TO ENGINEERING EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THAT READY TO GO AS WELL.
UM, AND WE'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THIS, THIS BOARD MAY HAVE.
UM, I HAVE, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
WELL, I'M GLAD THAT, THAT, UH, YOU RESPONDED TO THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE BY, UH, MONA FRY DIED AND MYSELF IN TERMS OF, OF HAVING THAT HANDICAPPED SPACE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND YOU BROUGHT IT RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUILDING.
NOW, COULD YOU PUT YOUR SCREEN UP AGAIN, THAT FROM THE, THE STEPS THAT COMES DOWN FROM THE UPPER PARKING LOT? YES.
STILL HAVE TO CROSS OVER TO GET TO THE MAIN BUILDING, CROSS OVER THE ENTRANCE.
AND I THINK YOU, YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME STRIPING THERE BETWEEN, UM, I, I GOT YOU.
SO, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UM, YEAH.
FROM THE BOTTOM OF THIS ABSOLUTELY.
SO YEAH, BECAUSE YOU, BECAUSE IT'S, YOU STILL, IT IS CLOSE TO THE ENTRANCE, SO IF YOU HAVE SOME STRIP IN THERE, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP FROM THE, FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE, THAT STAIRCASE OF THE UPPER LOT.
SO I JUST DREW THIS, UM, THIS GRAYISH COLOR BOX HERE YEAH.
WHICH EXTENDS, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTS EXTENSION OF, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, MR. CHAIRMAN? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
SO, SO I'LL TRY AND CROSS THIS ROADWAY PERPENDICULAR YES.
AND I THINK THAT'S A, A GOOD COMMENT THAT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO, TO ADD.
AND MY, MY OTHER COMMENT IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE CATCHING THE WATER FROM THERE AND YOU, AND YOU'RE SENDING IT DOWN AND EVENTUALLY GO INTO, YOU KNOW, THE BROOKS.
DO YOU HAVE AN OIL SEPARATOR IN THE, IN THAT, IN, IN ANY PLACE IN YOUR SYSTEM? SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR STORM WATER, TYPICALLY AN OIL ORDER SEPARATOR IS NOT RE REQUIRED.
THAT WOULD BE FOR, UH, INTERIOR USES OR, UM, UH, BUT, UH, OR RESTAURANTS.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THE, THE WAY THE INFILTRATION SYSTEM WORKS IS THE WATER IS, UM, CAPTURED AND PUT INTO UNDERGROUND DETENTION SYSTEM, WHICH THEN HAS TO FILL UP TO A CERTAIN LEVEL YEAH.
SO THAT SYSTEM HAS, YOU KNOW, AS REQUIRED BY B E C HAS A WATER QUALITY COMPONENT SPECIFICALLY TO REMOVE SEDIMENT, YOU KNOW, OILS, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN THERMAL MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HOT SUNNY DAY, THE BLACKTOPS A HUNDRED DEGREES, IT RAINS.
YOU REALLY DON'T WANT THAT WATER TO BE DISCHARGED THAT, YOU KNOW, HIGHER TEMPERATURE.
SO, SO THE, UM, I THINK TO YOUR COMMENT, THE, THE, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE AN OIL WATER SEPARATOR, WE DO HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WATER QUALITY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CAPABILITY, UH, ALREADY BUILT INTO THIS SYSTEM.
THE, BUT THE SEDIMENTS GOES TO THE BOTTOM AND WHY I SAY OIL SEPARATED BECAUSE IT'S COMING OFF OF OUR PARKING LOT WHERE YOU CAN HAVE, UH, OIL DRIPPING FROM AUTOMOBILES BECAUSE IT'S A PARKING LOT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE GENESIS OF MY QUESTION, IS THAT IF YOU HAVE OIL FROM CARS DRIPPING ON THE PARKING LOT, THAT COULD LINE UP BEING WASHED INTO THE SYSTEM.
UM, MR. CATONE, WHEN YOU SPOKE TO, YOU KNOW, BROADLY ABOUT WHAT THE WATER QUALITY, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE,
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I, IS THERE A SPECIFIC, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPONENT THAT YOU CAN SPEAK TO? LIKE, SO THE BOARD IS FAMILIAR WITH THE OIL, WATER SEPARATORS, HYDRODYNAMIC SEPARATORS, PERHAPS THERE'S ONE THAT'S BEING UTILIZED IN CONNECTION WITH THIS SYSTEM THAT YOU CAN NAME FOR US.AND, AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, I CAN SPEAK TO THE TOWN ENGINEER ABOUT IT TO SEE IF IT TRULY DOES FUNCTION AND BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD FUNCTION THE WAY THAT THE BOARD'S, UH, CHAIRPERSON ASSIGNMENT, SO THE, THE WATER QUALITY VOLUME, AND THERE'S TWO PIECES OF THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FOR, WE, WE DO A LOT OF LARGER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF BIG PARKING LOTS.
UM, SO THE D E C ESTABLISHES CERTAIN CRITERIA AND, UM, THE, THE CRITERIA FOR THE, THE, WHAT THEY CALL WATER QUALITY VOLUME IS BASED ON, UM, THE PERCENTAGE OF IMPERVIOUS FOR THE PROJECT.
I'LL USE THAT IN QUOTES, BECAUSE WHEN WE CALCULATED OUR, UH, PERCENT IMPERVIOUS, WE, UM, WE BASICALLY, UM, TOOK THE DISTURBANCE LIMITS OF THE PROJECT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UM, WE WOULDN'T DO THIS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, UM, UH, CONCEPTS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD TAKE MORE GREEN AREA TO REDUCE THAT WATER QUALITY, BUT WE DON'T DO THAT.
WE FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW, WHICH IS THE PROJECT AREA, WHICH IS REALLY THE DISTURBANCE AREAS.
UM, SO, UM, SO THERE'S A VOLUME CALCULATION.
I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, MR. CALZONE.
MY QUESTION IS, IF A, A CAR DRIPS OIL ON THE PARKING LOT, HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THAT? IF A CAR DRIPS SOIL IN A PARKING LOT, AND I ASSUME YOU'RE REFERRING TO LIKE INCIDENTAL LEAKAGE, NOT A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF A, A GAS TANK, BUT THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF OIL RUBBER OR OTHER CONTAMINANTS THAT DRIP OFF CARS ON ROADWAYS, NOT ONLY PARKING LOTS.
AND THAT'S MEANT TO BE TREATED BY WATER QUALITY ASPECT OF THE STORM SYSTEM.
SO THE WATER QUALITY ASPECT IS INFILTRATION FILTRATION, AND THE, THE PREFERENCE OF THE D E C IS THAT, UM, AS MUCH WATER OF THAT WATER QUALITY VOLUME, UH, BE PUT BACK INTO THE GROUND AS R R V, WHICH IS RAINFALL RECOVERY AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE GUIDANCE OF THE D E C.
ON, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY TREAT THE RISK OF PARKING LOTS, ROOF AREAS AND OTHERS.
AARON, COULD YOU JUST CHECK WITH OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IF THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE THAT MY, UH, MY QUESTION IS REALLY THE, THE APPLICANT IS ADDRESSING IT, THEN THAT'S FINE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE, THE SYSTEM
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE MEETING THE STANDARDS.
THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVE MEASURES, WHICH, WHICH, UH, SOME OF WHICH WERE MEASURED LIKE A, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, SWIRL CHAMBER OR, UM, HYDRODYNAMIC SEPARATOR, WHICH IS CONSIDERED, UM, AN ALTERNATIVE PRACTICE, WHICH IS TYPICALLY USED ON A REDEVELOPMENT SITE IN LIEU OF WHAT THEY FAVOR, WHICH IS THE, THE, UH, OKAY.
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T USE IT AS WELL AS THAT.
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ADDING COSTS TO THE PROJECT IF IT IS NOT TRULY JUSTIFIED.
UH, SO AS LONG AS OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS, FEELS SATISFIED THAT WHAT YOU HAVE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED THE CONCERN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SO I WOULD JUST ASK AARON JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND THEY FEEL FINE WITH THAT, THEN IT'S FINE WITH ME.
I'VE ALREADY SENT MYSELF A NOTE TO FOLLOW UP
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TOMORROW.ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS? I HAVE A QUESTION, WALTER.
UH, I THINK IT, CAN YOU PUT UP THE PARKING PLAN, THE PLA THAT SHOWS THE PARKING SPACES THE NEXT, I THINK.
SO I THINK IT'S, UH, UH, ALL THAT CORRECTIONS AND, AND, UH, UH, ACCOMMODATION THAT YOU HAVE INCORPORATED WITH THE COMMENTS.
ONLY THING THAT I HAVE STILL LITTLE CONCERN IS THE FOUR PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE, UH, KIND OF AT THE, AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE YEAH, THAT FOUR.
AND MY TWO CONCERN IS THAT, UH, PEOPLE ARE BACKING UP AND, UH, PEOPLE COMING IN AND ALSO THE PEOPLE ARE GETTING OUT FROM THE MAIN PARKING AREA, UH, WOULD CREATE A KIND OF CONFLICT.
SO, UH, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT, UH, UH, WE CAN, YOU, YOU CAN REWORK THAT ONLY, THERE ARE ONLY FOUR PARKING SPOTS AND IF WE CAN, UH, UH, ACCOMMODATE IN, IN, IN A MAIN PARKING AREA, AND THEN ELIMINATE THAT BACKUP WITH THE PEOPLE COMING ON THE CURB, AND THEN ALSO PEOPLE COMING DOWN RIGHT.
AT A MUCH MORE, UH, SPEED FROM THE ENTRANCE.
SO MY QUESTION IS THAT, DO YOU HAVE GIVEN ANY THOUGHTS ON, UH, SORT OF RESOLVING THAT CONFLICT? UM, I, I, I DO.
I MEAN, IF WE LOOK AT, UM, OTHER PARTS OF THE SITE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THIS CARS COME IN, YOU HAVE CARS BACKING OUT.
IT'S JUST TYPICAL OF, YOU KNOW, RETAIL, UH, AND COMMERCIAL USE BUILD, EVEN OFFICE BUILDINGS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A TYPICAL LAYOUT.
THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A, YOU KNOW, A FREEWAY.
IF WE ELIMINATED THESE FOUR SPACES, YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THE SAME CON CONDITION EXISTS AROUND THIS CURVE.
CARS ARE COMING IN AND YOU HAVE CARS BACKING OUT.
SO I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, OUR INTENT WAS TO, UM, TO BASICALLY GET THESE PARKING SPACES AS CLOSE TO THIS PROPERTY LINE AS POSSIBLE TO INCREASE THE DISTANCE FROM THE PARKING SPACE TO THE ROADWAY.
SO I'M GONNA JUST, UM, IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME, LET, LET ME MAKE A SUGGESTION.
MAYBE PERHAPS, UH, WHAT WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, UH, IS TRAFFIC CALMING RATHER THAN, UH, MOVING THAT AND IS IF THERE IS STRIPING OR, UH, OR SOMETHING JUST MAKE PEOPLE AWARE COMING AROUND THAT THEIR CARS OVER THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, BOTH COMING IN AND, UH, COMING AROUND THERE.
IF YOU CAN CALM THAT AREA A LITTLE BIT, WE WE CAN DO THAT.
ALSO THAT ALSO THAT STRIPED AREA IS FLAT.
THERE'S NO OBSTACLE THERE TO SEE WHEN YOU'RE COMING AROUND THOSE, THOSE PARKING SPACES, CORRECT? RIGHT.
SO YOU HAVE A CLEAR VIEW WHEN YOU'RE COMING AROUND.
IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S, UH, SOMETHING FALL THERE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS FROM BORDER? YEAH, I, I THINK, UH, MY SECOND COMMENT IS, UH, SIMILAR TO PEOPLE WALK, PEOPLE COMING TO THE STAIRS, UH, CROSSING OVER THE, UH, ROADWAY.
SO CAN YOU EXTEND THAT, UH, UH, KIND OF ZEBRA LINES TO THAT? UH, YEAH, FROM THERE TO THE, YEAH.
SO THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY BE OH, ON THE OTHER SIDE ALSO? CORRECT.
ON WHICH SIDE? ALSO ON THAT SIDE.
THE ONE, THE ONE YOU JUST IDENTIFIED.
COR, DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR COMMENT? CORRECT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I'VE LOST, UM, AUDIO.
UH, I, I, CAN ANYONE HEAR ME? YES.
AARON, I COULD NOT HEAR YOU THOUGH.
YOU CAN'T HEAR ME NOW? NOW I CAN.
I, I KNOW IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS, WE DO HAVE FROM THE, UH, FROM, UH, YES, WE DO.
WE HAVE MR. BODEN, AND, UM, HE WILL SPEAK AARON.
MS. ER, THOSE, THOSE WALKWAYS ARE GONNA BE STRIPED, CORRECT? YES, YES, YES.
SO WE DO HAVE MR. BODEN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, MR. BODEN, THAT'S, UH, YOU
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RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION, THE, UH, PLAYING ON THE, UH, SCREEN THAT CHERYL, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.I FIRST BECAME A CL A AWARE OF BEER GARDENS IN 1955, JOE KING'S KELLER ON THIRD AVENUE IN 17TH STREET.
AND THEN THE ONE ON, UH, VAL HALLA.
IN THE MEANTIME, I WANT TO, YOU KINDA SLIDE THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
UH, I WANNA TALK ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING.
PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS IN DETROIT, AND THE FORD ONE 50 TRUCK IS GOING ALL ELECTRIC.
THE WORLD HAS CHANGED BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING, AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT PARKING IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
UH, COULD YOU GIMME THAT SLIDE BETTER OF THE PARKING AREA? UH, YOU WANT ME TO ZOOM IN, SIR? YEAH.
I WANNA SEE THE PARKING AREAS.
ONE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CONSERVE ENERGY YEARS AGO, NOT ANYMORE.
TWO, THE CROSSWALK, UH, THE CROSSWALK FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS TO THE BUILDING SHOULD BE A BAR CROSSWALK.
AND THE SPACE WHERE THE CROSSWALK COMES FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS SHOULD BE A SHARED SPACE.
THAT SPACE CAN BE USED BY A, UH, HANDICAP TO GET OUT OF THE CAR.
I WAS AT, UH, BEN AND JERRY'S IN, UH,
AND, UH, THE CAR PULLED UP AND THE GUY GENTLEMAN CAME OUT IN A WHEELCHAIR.
UM, I KNOW A LOT ABOUT WHEELCHAIRS.
30 YEARS AGO, I LEARNED TO USE ONE BECAUSE I ENCOURAGED MY FRIEND TO DO THE NEW YORK CITY MARATHON IN A WHEELCHAIR, AND HE'D DID IT A NUMBER OF TIMES.
SO I'M PRETTY GOOD AT A WHEELCHAIR, AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS OF WHEELCHAIR PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO SHARE THE WALKWAY FOR PEDESTRIANS.
WITH THOSE CARS THAT HAVE WHEELCHAIRS, YOU COULD PUT A WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE SPACE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CROSSWALK, AND THE TRUCK COULD EITHER, THE VAN CAN EITHER BACK IN OR DRIVE IN.
IF IT'S A SIDE LOADING, UH, RAMP FOR A WHEELCHAIR, WE HAVE TO THINK IN SHARING RESOURCES.
MR. YOU'RE NOT YOU GONNA INTERRUPT ME OR NO? NO, YOU GOT THE, THIS IS ABOUT THE PLAN.
I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO, UH, UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE SAYING WE SHOULD PUT IT.
SO JUST, I JUST TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHERE YOU'RE SAYING, WHEN YOU COME OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS, YES.
I'LL PUT A, A CROSSWALK, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU CROSS, IT SHOULD BE A HANDICAPPED SPACE.
THE SPACES ON EITHER SIDE, IT SHOULD BE HANDICAPPED, AND THE SPACE WHERE THE CROSSWALK IS, SHOULD BE SHARED WITH THE VAN THAT HAS A LIFT OR A WHEELCHAIR.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE SPACE FOR THE HANDICAP SEPARATELY.
AND THEN WHEN I GOT OUTTA THEIR VAN, THERE WAS NO CROSSWALK TO GET ANYWHERE.
WHEN YOU PUT A, A HANDICAP VAN ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CROSSWALK, THEY THEN CAN CONTINUE SAFELY TO THE ENTRANCE.
THE, THE, YOU DIDN'T SHOW ORIGINALLY A CROSSWALK TO THE ENTRANCE.
AND IT SHOULD BE A PARALLEL BAR.
YES, THERE ARE OTHERS AVAILABLE, BUT THE SAFEST CROSSWALK IS THE PARALLEL BAR.
CONTINENTAL NEW YORK CITY USES IT EXCLUSIVELY.
THE REST OF THE WORLD USES IT ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY.
SO DOES CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK STATE HAS A MISHMASH, AND I'M HAVING A FIGHT WITH THE, UH, SOMEBODY OFFERED $25,000 TO CONVERT THE CROSSWALKS TO A SAFER ONE.
NOBODY TOOK US UP ON THAT IN HONOR OF A FRIEND WHO WAS A SAFETY CONSCIOUS.
UM, OKAY, LET'S GO TYPE OF CROSSWALK INTO AND GO FURTHER WITHOUT THE OTHER COMMENTS.
AND SO WE REC, WE, WE, NEXT POINT, NEXT POINT IS THE LIGHTING.
I MADE UP A SEC, A SMALL BOX WITH TWO, UH, LEDS ON IT THAT I HAVE OVER MY GARAGE.
AND IT'S PORTABLE SO THAT YOU COULD TEST IT OUT.
THE, THE LIGHTS THAT YOU USE THERE, THOSE LITTLE STANCHIONS THERE DON'T GIVE ADEQUATE LIGHT.
AND WE HAVE, THEY LOOK NICE, BUT THEY DON'T WORK WELL.
AND I'VE WATCHED OTHER INSTALLATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE CHANGING TO THIS KIND OF, UH, LIGHTS.
IF YOU GO DRIVE DOWN JOYCE ROAD WHERE I LIVE, HALF A DOZEN DRIVEWAYS WILL LIGHT UP WITH THOSE LIGHTS AND IT'S PORTABLE SO THAT DIFFERENT PLACES CAN TEST IT OUT.
UH, THE BUMP OUT, I SPOKE ABOUT THE MANUAL UNIFORM
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TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, IT'S UP FOR REVIEW.I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR THE LAST 20 ODD YEARS.
I, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WAS THE PART OF THE TEAM THAT DEVELOPED THE DOTTED LINE SECTION.
THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO CORRECT IT.
THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO BRING IT INTO THIS WORLD OF LESS RESOURCES AND EVERYBODY'S GOING NUTS.
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DID UP UNTIL NOW WAS GOOD IN PAST YEARS.
ELECTRIC CARS ARE HERE, THEY'LL BE EVERYWHERE.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN DISCUSSING HOW WE USE OUR RESOURCES IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MIX MYSELF UP.
MY MIND DOESN'T WORK WELL AS IT USED TO, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT, AND I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN TO KEEP IT AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE.
SIMON, YOU SAID THE RIGHT THING WHEN YOU SAID DON'T REPEAT YOURSELF.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU NEED TO LIKE, TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE.
THERE WAS ONE OTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT ASKED FOR THE LINK.
I DID PROVIDE IT, BUT I DO NOT SEE THAT INDIVIDUAL ON THE MEETING.
UH, IS, IF, IS THERE ANY, IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS, OR IF THE BOARD MEMBER HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENT, PLEASE INDICATE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, MAKE A COMMENT.
IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC CARE AND KEEP THE ROAD RACKET OPEN UNTIL MAY 26TH.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN GO BACK INTO WORK SESSION SECOND.
A ABSTENTION OR, OR OBJECTION? NONE.
SO, COMMISSIONER DUANE'S AVAILABLE.
I JUST WANNA NOTE THOUGH, THAT, UM, WE WOULD BE TAKING THIS UNDER CORRESPONDENCE, UH, BEING THAT THE FINAL AGENDA DID NOT REFLECT THE, THE BEST, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE BEST.
AS CORRESPONDENCE AHEAD, CHAIRPERSON SIMON, UH, BEING THAT COMMISSIONER DUQUE WASN'T ON EARLIER WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, JUST MADE YOUR FEW REMARKS, YOU WOULDN'T JUST BRING THOSE UP AGAIN.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I SAID, UH, PREVIOUSLY IS THAT, UH, THE PLAN IS NOT TO MAKE ANY DECISION TONIGHT, BUT YOU GAVE US SOME UPDATES, YOU GAVE US AN UPDATE, AND, AND IF ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ADDITIONS THAT, UH, TO GIVE TO YOU, TO YOU AND THAT WE WOULD, UH, AFTER THIS MEETING, IF MEMBERS HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, THEY GET IT TO YOU BY MAY 26TH THE DAY.
AND SO YOU COULD FINALIZE A DOCUMENT AFTER HAVING ALL, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE LOOKED THROUGH THIS, I THINK THREE TIMES.
WE WOULD GIVE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS ANOTHER, UH, UH, SEVEN TO EIGHT DAYS TO READ ANY DOCUMENTS THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ.
I ALSO ASKED BOARD MEMBERS IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS THAT THEY NEED TO PLEASE CONTACT YOU.
SO YOU COULD GET IT TO THEM WITH THE IDEA THAT BY THE TIME WE GET TO, UH, UH, THE JUNE 2ND MEETING, WE WOULD'VE, UH, HAVE ENOUGH, UH, INFORMATION.
BOARD MEMBERS WOULD HAVE, UH, UH, SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO GET THEIR IDEAS INTO THE DRAFT DOCUMENT.
AND SO HOPEFULLY ON JUNE 2ND, WE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO BASED UPON THAT, UH, AND THE INFORMATION THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAVE RECEIVED THUS FAR, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, CONCERNS, OR THAT BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CAPTURED IN THE FINAL DRAFT? OKAY.
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UH, UH, I, I, I PUT ONE IN, BUT I, YOU CAPTURED THAT.IS THAT A BIG ISSUE, UH, IS ONE OF SAFETY AND THE ISSUE OF HOW DO YOU TRAIN AND COORDINATE THE, WHAT THE SIX OR SEVEN DIFFERENT FIRE DEPARTS TO, TO ADEQUATELY TRAIN THEIR PERSONNEL, HAVE THE APPROPRIATE EQUIPMENT, UH, UH, UH, TO DEAL WITH, UH, UH, UH, BE, UH, A BEST FACILITY? UH, WE DON'T, AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE THE SOLUTION, BUT I THINK IN OUR REC, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, A VERY, UH, WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS A MAJOR CONCERN, IS TRAINING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND GET THEM TO COORDINATE, YOU KNOW, AS WE ALL KNOW, BY STATE LAW, THEY'RE INDEPENDENT ENTITY.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY, REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
UH, WALTER, I I HAVE A SUGGESTION ON THIS.
UM, I THINK THAT THE PLAN PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, UH, WITH THE CONSULTANT NEEDS, NEEDS TO OUTLINE WHAT IS REQUIRED OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO FIGHT IT AND, AND LET THEM RESPOND THAT WAY.
WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A FIRE ENGINEER ON STAFF IN GREENBERG.
IS THAT CORRECT, AARON OR GARY? WE, WE, THE DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL BUILDING INSPECTOR, UH, TRAINED IN THE CCP AREA.
THAT PLUS OUR CONSULTANT, WHICH ON THE BIGGER PROJECTS, NOT ON THE SMALL ONES, BUT ON THE BIGGER PROJECTS ARE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE A CONSULTANT AVAILABLE TOO ON THESE PROJECTS.
I THINK THEY CAN DEFINE WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR THE PARTICULAR PROJECT AND SEND THOSE OUT TO THE FIRE, FIRE DISTRICT AND LET THE FIRE DISTRICT SAY, CAN YOU MEET THESE NEEDS? YES OR NO? IT'S SIMPLE.
I THINK THAT'S MUCH BETTER THAN TRYING TO JUST SEND THE THING OUT AND SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE SENT OUT EAGLE ENERGY GUARD SENT OUT, TELL WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THEY WALKED AROUND, SAW WHERE IT IS, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A, YOU KNOW, A DITCH.
AND I FIGURED NOTHING'S GONNA HAPPEN.
THEY SIGNED OFF ON IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT WE BECAME AWARE OF.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WALTER, IT'S BEEN, JUST THINK ABOUT WHEN THIS, WHEN WE FIRST SAW THIS PRIOR, THE FIRST ONE OF THESE IN OCTOBER, ALL OF US IN THIS BOARD, WE HAD NO CLUE REALLY, UH, WHAT MAY BE THE SAFETY ISSUES ON THAT.
AND AS WE, AS WE, UH, GOT INTO IT MORE AND STARTED READING MORE, WE LEARNED MORE.
AND THEN YOU AND I ON THE, ON THE BATTERY COMMITTEE LEARNED AN AWFUL LOT MORE.
'CAUSE WE HAD EXPERTS COME IN AND HELP US LEARN THAT.
AND WE ALSO HAD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WHICH GARRETT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF MAKING IT AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY NOW.
SO GIVEN THAT, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, WALTER GRODEN WHO, UH, SEEMS TO BE ON TOP OF THIS STUFF FROM THE, THAT FIRE DISTRICT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE IN THE OTHER FIRE DISTRICTS.
UM, AND I THINK MONA MADE A POINT, ACTUALLY MURRAY MADE A VERY GOOD POINT IN HIS NOTE TODAY.
UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES NOW CLEARLY IS THE LACK OF VOLUNTEERS IN FIRE DISTRICTS.
IT'S VERY, VERY, THIS IS MY, THIS IS MY BIG CONCERN, HUGH AND THE OTHER MEMBERS, WE HAVE THESE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH ARE THE VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENTS AS OPPOSED TO THE PAID FIRE DISTRICTS.
AND THESE FIRE DEPARTMENTS MAY NOT HAVE THE FUNDING, LET ALONE, YOU KNOW, THE INSIDER INFORMATION THAT WE NOW TO SOME DEGREE HAVE.
AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE FUNDING TO GET THE P P E THAT THEY NEED TO FIGHT POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, UM, INCIDENTS WITH SMOKE AND WHAT HAVE YOU FOR A LARGER INSTALLATION, IF THEY GET CALLED ON FOR MUTUAL AID, I DON'T WANT THEM RUSHING INTO SOMETHING THAT THEY CANNOT HANDLE.
WELL, THE GOOD, THE GOOD NEWS IS THEY'RE TOLD NOT TO FIGHT IT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GONNA LEARN IS THEY'RE NOT GONNA FIGHT.
YOU DON'T FIGHT THESE FIRES, YOU THAT, BUT BEFORE SOMEBODY TELLS THEM THAT, NO, NO.
LEMME GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WALTER.
LET ME JUST FINISH WITH ONE IDEA, OKAY? BEFORE I FORGET IT.
'CAUSE I'M, YOU'RE GETTING OLD AND I FORGET THINGS QUICKLY,
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WHEN WE DO A SUBDIVISION, WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOT AN IMPACT ON OUR PARKS AND REC.SO WHAT DO WE DO? WE COLLECT A FEE AND THAT FEE GOES INTO A FUND THAT WE USE TO IMPROVE OUR PARKS AND REC THAT IS ACTUALLY ADMINISTERED, OR AT LEAST APPROVED BY THIS BOARD.
WHY COULDN'T WE INCLUDE IN THIS PROPOSAL, AT LEAST HAVE, HAVE THE TOWN BOARD THINK ABOUT HAVING SOME KIND OF FEE OKAY.
TO THESE PEOPLE THAT WOULD SUPPORT ENSURING THAT THE PROPER P P E ARE AVAILABLE AND THE PROPER TRAINING IS AVAILABLE.
THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT THAT, LET ME, LET ME INTERRUPT ONE SECOND.
EXPLODING RECREATION FEE IS SPECIFICALLY MANDATED BY CODE, SO THAT BY STATE CODE.
SO WE WOULD, AND IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.
YOU, IT, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE INSTITUTED, UH, ON THE STATE LEVEL TO PERMIT US TO DO THAT.
LEMME GO, LEMME GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON.
THOUGHT IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT THAT TRAINING COULD BE CENTRALIZED.
THAT IT COULD, IF WE HAVE THAT FUND, DAVE, RIGHT? WE COULD HIRE THE PEOPLE AND INVITE PEOPLE FROM, FROM THE FIRE DISTRICTS TO GREENBURG TO GET THE TRAINING AND GET CERTIFIED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, I THINK DONE OR, OR YOU MAKE AN ARRANGEMENT TO PAY WESTCHESTER COUNTY PART OF THAT FEE AND THEY GO OVER TO THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER CENTER AND HAVE THAT DONE WHEREVER.
SO WHAT WE NEED, OKAY, SO WHAT I WANT TO DO NOW IS NOT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO THE PARTICULARS, BUT TO HIGHLIGHT THE AREAS THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE GARRETT CAPTURES.
SO ONE IS TRAINING AND, UH, AND, UH, UH, FUNDING FOR EQUIPMENT.
NOW, IS THERE ANOTHER POINT THAT WE NEED TO PLACE MORE PLACE PERSONNEL RESOURCES? AND I ACTUALLY ALREADY SENT THIS COMMENT TO GARRETT.
UM, IT ISN'T JUST HAVING PEOPLE TRAINED.
IT'S A NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU NEED TO HAVE TRAINED.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE ON SITE TO FIGHT THAT? AND WHAT'S THE PLAN IN PLACE TO DO THAT? I THINK THAT FREQUENCY OF TRAINING.
WELL, IT'S NOT JUST TRAINING, MONA.
SO YOU HAVE TWO TRAINED PEOPLE IN A FIRE DISTRICT, AND IT TAKES 10 TO FIGHT THE, FIGHT THE FIRE.
BUT AGAIN, HERE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I'M TRYING TO SAY FOCUS AND HIT THE POINTS THAT WE CAN GIVE TO GARRETT.
SO, AND I GAVE GARRETT THAT POINT.
SO WALTER, WE KNOW, WAIT A MINUTE.
WE KNOW THE ISSUE IS, IS, IS THE TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT OF, AND THE COORDINATION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PERSONNEL, THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT POINT, WALTER.
I'LL, SINCE I HAVE LEAVE, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THAT AND, AND IDENTIFY ANY ADDITIONAL AREAS THAT WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT SO WE COULD GIVE THAT TO GARY.
YEAH, THE, UH, SINCE I BELIEVE EARLY, AS I MENTIONED TO WALTER, I, I HAVE A TWO, UH, UH, COMMENTS.
ONE IS THAT, UH, SINCE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE TECHNOLOGY AND OTHER ASPECTS OF IT, UH, AND I SENT IT OUT THAT, UH, UH, TWO DOCUMENTS FROM NEW YORK CITY, UH, BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THE NEW YORK CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO ARE WAY AHEAD OF IT AND BEEN VERY ORGANIZED.
SO THEY HAVE THAT, UH, PROTOCOL SET UP FOR WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE TRAINING AND, AND, AND WHAT YOU DO IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, UH, FACILITY.
UH, PARTICULARLY, UH, UH, THE ACCESS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, HAVING CERTAIN KIND OF, UH, FIRE RATED, UH, ENCLOSURE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S 1, 1, 1 OF MY COMMENTS.
OTHER ONE IS TO, UH, HOW DO WE, UM, HOW DO WE INCORPORATE, UH, THIS, UH, THIS TRAINING PART? AND IF YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, SOME THESE OTHER ALREADY BEEN, UH, PREPARED, SO WE DO NOT REALLY REINVENT.
UH, AND THERE COULD BE A, UH, SORT OF ALREADY SET UP, UH, AREAS THAT TO
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DO.AND ANOTHER POINT IS TO HAVE THAT, UH, UH, ROOFTOP, UH, SPACE AVAILABLE.
UH, AND I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, THAT IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY WHAT I'M READING AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE FUME IS THE MOST, UH, CRITICAL PART OF THE, UH, FIRE EITHER HYDROGEN CELL OR A, UH, LITHIUM ION.
SO WE SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE SOMEBODY COMES UP AND PUTS ON DUTY.
SO HAVE A GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
INDICATED THAT HE HAS TO LEAVE EARLY TIME FAMILY.
IS, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL POINTS THAT WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE TO GARRETT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, OUTSIDE OF SAFETY AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS OR THE, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO WALTER? YES.
YOU MEAN IN ADDITION TO WHAT HE'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE MEMO HE SENT, CORRECT.
WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REHASH WHAT HE'S ALREADY GOT.
IN ADDITION, WE, WE, WE JUST WANT TO GIVE HIM A GOOD BASIS FOR WRITING IT OR, UH, WRITING UP THE DOCUMENT.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE ALL OUR KEY POINTS ARE INCORPORATED.
SO, SO FAR THERE'S A HEAVY EMPHASIS ON TRAINING AND COORDINATION OF THE FIRE, YOU KNOW, OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO IN THAT DOCUMENT THAT SHOULD BE STRONGLY EMPHASIZED, A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT THIS IS CRITICAL THAT THE HOUR, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE PROPERLY TRAINED AND EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH IT.
SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER POINTS THAT YOU WISH TO EMPHASIZE THAT YOU FEEL IS NOT IN THE, THE WRITEUP OR YOU FEEL IT DOES NOT HAVE AN APPROPRIATE BOY BEFORE YOU RUN WHAT WE SAID? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
DID YOU PUT THE THING IN THERE ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, BIANNUAL REVIEW? I DIDN'T SEE IT WHEN I READ, READ THE, OH, IT'S, YES, YES, YES.
THERE IS, IT'S IN THERE REFERENCE TO THAT.
THERE IS, AND SO HUGH, I RECEIVED YOUR EMAIL TODAY AND, UM, SO WE'LL INCORPORATE THAT AND I'LL WORK WITH, UH, MATT, AARON, AND DAVID, AND WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WHETHER IT'S BOLDING OR USING, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, STATING EMPHATICALLY THAT THE PLANNING BOARD'S MOST PROMINENT CONCERN, AND WE'LL HIGHLIGHT WHAT YOU JUST STATED BECAUSE, SO WE'LL WORK, WE'LL WORK ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT EMPHASIS IS THERE TO YOUR LI YOUR SATISFACTION.
AND I THINK WE'RE ON TRACK FOR JUNE 2ND, SO I I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW MUCH TIME YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN AN EFFORT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS AND, UH, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE, UH, MAKING GREAT PROGRESS HERE.
AND, AND, AND THE ISSUE WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, UM, THE FIREWALL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE
THAT
THE, THE INCREASED NEED FOR THE FIRE, THE CLOSER.
I, I, I MADE THAT IN YELLOW SO IT STOOD OUT.
BUT IF YOU WANT A, A SUBTLE CHANGE TO THE LANGUAGE, JUST WORK WITH ME AND, UM, WE'LL GET IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT, IT, IT, IT'S THE POINT THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE.
I, I WAS JUST GONNA ADD THAT IN THE INTERIM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, ANYTHING COMES TO MIND OR THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO GARRETT, MYSELF, UH, SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CONVERSATION AND LOOK TO INCORPORATE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, INCORPORATE COMMENTS.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE, UM, YOUR COMMENTS AS, AS THE CHAIRPERSON MENTIONED BY I BELIEVE WEDNESDAY, BECAUSE I REALLY WANNA, YOU KNOW, GET THE FINAL FORM, GET IT IN ITS FINAL FORM FOR YOUR PACKAGES BECAUSE, UH, I'M GONNA BE OUT OF, UH, UH, GREENBERG FOR THE WEEK, UM, OF THE MEETING OF JUNE 2ND.
SO, UH, THAT DOESN'T MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS CAN'T PROCEED, BUT I THINK WE, WE, WE CAN, UM, INCORPORATE YOUR COMMENTS SO THAT YOU'RE ALL SET FOR YOUR JUNE 2ND MEETING.
AS LONG AS YOU'RE REACHABLE THAT WEEK.
GARRETT
YOU CAN LOOK IT INTO YOUR CAR.
WELL, THANK YOU GARRETT FOR, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS, UH, UH, LAW, UH, BOTH FROM THE, THE PLANNING BOARD AND FROM THE, THE, THE BISS COMMITTEE AND, UH, AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU SPENT, UH, UH, CHAIRING THIS.
AND SO IT IS INDEED A TEAM EFFORT ON, A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TO GET US TO THIS POINT.
UH, WE HAVE NOT COME UP WITH THE
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LAWYER WITH THE RECOMMENDATION YET, BUT I AM CERTAIN THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME TO, UH, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON JUNE THE SECOND.AND, UH, I, UH, WE FINISHED BEFORE EIGHT, SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR THE VICE.
YOU WENT OVER THE OTHER DAY TO MAKE A COMMENT ON TAKING THE TIME BACK.
PARDON? YOU WENT OVER THE OTHER DAY, SO WE'RE TAKING THE TIME BACK.
FOR THOSE WHO WEREN'T HERE, YOU STARTED THE MEETING AT QUARTER OF FIVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WON'T, I WON'T QUIBBLE ABOUT THAT.