[ FINAL TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD AGENDA WEDNESDAY, June 2, 2021 – 5:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 8:00 p.m. ]
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MEETING OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
THE FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THE ROLL CALL.
UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL, MAKE THE ROLL CALL? SURE.
UH, THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINISTRY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES.
ONE FROM THE SPECIAL MEETING AND ONE FOR, UM, UH, THE MINUTES OF, UH, WEDNESDAY, MAY 19TH.
I'LL START OFF WITH THE, THE MINUTES.
UH, THE, UH, OF THE SPECIAL MEETING, UH, IS STRAIGHTFORWARD AND
SO IT IS NOT MUCH TO ADD OTHER THAN TO, UH, UH, GET A VOTE FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF THESE MINUTES.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RE, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED FOR THE MAY 17TH, UH, SPECIAL MEETING.
UH, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AND THE NEXT ONE IS THE MINUTES OF, UH, OUR LAST MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, MAY 19TH.
UM, I HAVE, UH, I HAVE NO COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES.
UH, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? YES, HONOR ON PAGE ONE UNDER, UM, CORRESPONDENCE, I GUESS IT IS, UM, AT THE BOTTOM, I GUESS THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, IT SPEAKS OF A COMMENT, MS. REEK INCURRED STATING THAT ONE OF HER PRIMARY CONCERNS IS THAT FIRE DEPARTMENTS MAY NOT HAVE FUNDING OR INFORMATION TO GET THE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT TO FIGHT BEST FIRES.
MY COMMENT WAS REGARDING THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS, NOT JUST FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS OR COMPANIES DISTRICTS IN THE VILLAGES WHERE THEY ARE DEPENDENT ON THE VILLAGES THAT SET THEIR BUDGETS, AND THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO, OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PROCURE THE EQUIPMENT OR P P E THAT THEY NEED.
SO I SPOKE SPECIFICALLY TO THE VOLUNTEER, UM, FIRE DEPARTMENTS, AND I'D LIKE THAT TO BE SPECIFIED IN THE MINUTES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I SPOKE TO.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? YEAH.
WELL, THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S A, ON TYPO, THE OTHER THING IS, THERE IS A TYPO ON PAGE TWO WHERE IT SAYS ZERO SQUARE F P T.
IT SHOULD BE JUST ZERO SQUARE FEET FT PERIOD.
AND THAT'S UNDER, UH, OLD BUSINESS THAT'S IN THE, IN THE DESCRIPTION UNDER A, YEAH, UNDER FOUR A.
I THINK, UH, UH, WHEN THEY, THERE IS A SENTENCE SAYING THAT MR. DESAI STATED THAT HE HAD SENT THE BOARD TWO DOCUMENTS FROM NEW YORK CITY, UH, RELATED TO B B E S SS, AND SUGGESTED THAT BOARD MEMBER CONSIDERED THE PROTOCOL AND STANDARD IN DOCUMENTS CIRCULATED.
ALSO, I MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE MAIN TWO POINTS THAT I, UH, GATHERED FROM THE DOCUMENTS IS, IS A FUEL CELL, UH, CATEGORY, UH, SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE, THE NEW, UH, CO NEW, UH, NEW, UH, CODE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
UH, AND ALSO NUMBER TWO IS A, CONSIDER THE PLACEMENT OF, UH, PLACEMENT OF THE BATTERY STORAGE,
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UH, SYSTEM ON ROOF, UH, ON ROOFTOP WITH PROPER FIRE SEPARATION.SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY, UH, SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT, UH, NEW YORK STATE, NEW YORK CITY IS CONSIDERING.
HOWEVER, DID YOU, BUT WE ARE, THIS IS, WE ARE CORRECTING THE MINUTES.
THIS WAS PART OF THE, THIS IS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND THIS IS THE COMMENTS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE, IN THE MINUTE, IN THE CORRECT, CORRECT.
THAT'S, UH, THAT'S AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION.
SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S INCLUDED.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THE MINUTES? IF NOT, I MAKE A PROPOSAL THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED, UH, BY MONA AND COR SECOND.
SO THE MINISTER, SO CORRECTED, UH, BEFORE WE START, UM, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR HUGH SCHWARTZ WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
THIS IS REGARDING, UM, A COMMENT THAT I MADE AT THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING ON MAY 20TH.
THERE APPEARS TO BE MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT MY COMMENTS MADE AT THE, WHAT HAPPENED HERE? WHAT'S GOING ON? SORRY.
I'M JUST, UH, GOING THROUGH THAT.
THERE APPEARS TO BE A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT MY COMMENTS MADE AT THE MAY 20TH, 2021 MEETING OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.
MY USE OF THE WORD MALFEASANCE WAS TO DESCRIBE WHAT MR. SHERETTA WAS INACCURATELY ACCUSING THE PLANNING BOARD OF DOING.
IN NO WAY DID I STATE OR ATTEMPT TO IMPLY THAT MR. SHERETTA COMMITTED MALFEASANCE.
FOR THE RECORD, THE WORD MALFEASANCE IS TYPICALLY USED TO DESCRIBE THE WRONGDOING OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, AND THAT WAS THE CONTEXT IN WHICH I USED IT TO DESCRIBE MR. SHEA'S ACCUSATION CONCERNING THE MODIFICATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD MINUTES OF NOVEMBER FOUR.
I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE IF MR. SHERETTA OR ANYONE ELSE MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS SAYING AND TRUST THIS STATEMENT CLEARS UP THE MISUNDERSTANDING.
I ALSO HOPE THAT MR. SHERETTA WILL NOW RETRACT HIS INACCURATE STATEMENT CONCERNING THE CONDUCT OF THE PLANNING BOARD REGARDING THE CORRECTING OF THE NOVEMBER FOUR MINUTES, AS WELL AS HIS SUBSEQUENT WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE WITH TOWN ATTORNEY LEWIS.
NOW, I TRUST WE CAN ALL GO BACK AND FOCUS SOLELY ON THE MERITS OF THE PROJECT.
UM, WE WILL MOVE ON TO, UM, UH, THE APPROVAL.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, UH, SIX DRAFT APPROVALS, AND I WOULD, UH, UH, LIKE TO GO THROUGH THOSE.
UM, YOU ALL HAVE COPIES OF THOSE DRAFT APPROVALS.
THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, UH, P P 1706, UH, SIE ROAD.
AND, UH, AND THIS, UH, THIS ONE WILL REQUIRE, UH, THREE VOTES, ONE FOR PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, ONE FOR STEEPS, UH, SLOPE, AND THE OTHER FOR WET LAND APPROVAL.
I WANT TO NOTE THAT, UM, WHEN THERE ARE SPECIAL PROVISIONS IN A DECISION, UH, UH, THAT'S NOTED IN THE DRAFT APPROVAL, AND IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN OUR DRAFT REPORT IN YELLOW, THE KEY THINGS THAT'S IN THE, THAT'S BEEN ADDED IS THE, UH, UH, H O A, THAT THEY MIGHT MUST FORM A, A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION TO TAKE CARE OF THE ROAD AND, UH, AND, UH, THE CUL-DE-SAC, UH, WHICH, UH, THIS, UH, UH, WHICH HAS TO BE DONE UNDER DISAPPROVAL.
AND THERE WAS A OTHER ISSUE IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU COME OUT THE ENTRANCE, THERE WAS SOME TREES, UH, ON THE CORNER THERE OF THE PROPERTY THAT DECREASED THE LINE OF SIGHT.
SO THOSE TREES HAVE TO BE CUT BACK.
SO THOSE ARE THE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO THIS, UH, UH, APPROVAL.
ALSO THAT THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER SUBDIVISION PERMITTED, NO FURTHER
RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
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IN, UH, THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THIS APPROVAL, UH, AT ALL OF THE OTHER PROVISIONS ARE THE, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THESE TYPES OF DECISIONS.ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I ASK FOR A VOTE ON THE, ON THIS? OKAY.
UH, THE SEEKER WAS ALREADY DONE.
SO, UH, UH, I, I ASKED FOR, WELL, I PROPOSE THAT WE APPROVE A, A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, UH, REGARDING PB 1706.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO JUST ASK MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO REMAIN MUTE BECAUSE, UH, IT INTERRUPTS THE MEETING.
UM, THAT'S, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, WALTER, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
AND I THINK THAT ALSO WHAT HAPPENED DURING YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STATEMENT, PLEASE, EVERYONE, UH, KEEP YOUR COMPUTER, UM, YOUR, UH, MUTED SO THAT IT DOES NOT INTERRUPT THE MEETING.
SO WE HAVE, UM, WALTER MADE THE MOTION AND TOM SECOND IT.
ALL IN FAVOR OF A GRANT IN A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION.
SO, GRANTED, UH, THE OTHER ONE, UH, I PROPOSE THAT WE GRANT A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
YOU HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR TO CORRECT
AND THE THIRD VOTE IS TO GRANT A WETLAND WATER PERMIT.
OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THAT'S GRANTED.
UM, THE SECOND ONE IS, UH, A RELATE A PRODUCT THAT'S RELATED TO THIS IS, THIS IS THE MARIN SUBDIVISION, UH, AT 71, UH, UH, OLEY ROAD, THAT IS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
AND, UH, AND IN ORDER FOR EVERYTHING TO WORK, UM, UH, THE MARIN REQUIRES A SUBDIVISION, MR. MARIN, THAT'S THE THIRD TIME HE IS DONE.
MR. MARIN, PLEASE KEEP YOUR MIC OFF.
NO, THANK YOU FOR, FOR MAKING THAT STATEMENT.
UM, UH, SO THIS IS RELATED TO THE, TO THE APPROVAL WE JUST MADE.
UH, UM, THIS COULD NOT WORK UNLESS WE MADE THE FIRST APPROVAL.
SO, UH, THIS IS, THERE'S NO SPECIAL CONDITIONS REQUIRED, UH, NECESSARY IN THIS APPROVAL.
UH, SO THERE'S NO SPECIAL CONDITIONS IN THAT.
SO ALL IT, UH, WELL, WHAT'S REQUIRED IS A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AND A WETLAND WATER PERMIT.
SO I PROPOSE THAT WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION.
OPPOSED? SO, UH, MICHAEL'S, MICHAEL'S NOD AT HIS, UH, COMPUTER.
SO IT'S, I GUESS THAT COUNTS AS AN ABSTENTION AT THIS POINT, DAVE? UH, YES.
UH, LET ME ALSO JUST, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE DID NOT ANNOUNCE THIS CASE.
UM, SO, UH, THIS IS, UH, CASE FOUR B, UH, CASE PB 2103, MARIN SEVEN 10 LEY ROAD.
AND MAYBE I SEE MICHAEL, MICHAEL, IS THAT HIS COMPUTER? MAYBE YOU WANNA TAKE THIS VOTE AGAIN? NO, I VOTE YES.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE ALL IN, AND WE HAVE ALL MEMBERS IN FAVOR, RIGHT ON FIRST VOTE, WHICH WAS A PRELIMINARY, AND THE SECOND VOTE IS A WET, UH, A WETLAND WAR PERMIT.
I'D MAKE A PROPOSAL THAT WE GRANT, UH, GRANT THE WETLAND WATER PERMIT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.
THEREFORE, UH, THIS APPROVE, THE APPROVAL IS GRANTED, UH, FOR PB 2103.
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THE NEXT THING, CHAIRPERSON.SIMON, I THINK, I THINK THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY MAKE A STATEMENT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE BOARD FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION ON THIS APPLICATION.
YOU'VE ALL BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH, AND I THINK WITH YOUR INPUT AS WELL AS AARON'S AND THE CACS, WE MADE THIS A MUCH BETTER PROJECT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO EXTEND MY APPRECIATION ON BEHALF OF OUR WHOLE TEAM.
WELL, IT WAS A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU, WITH YOUR TEAM ALSO IN TERMS OF, UH, RESPONDING TO THE REQUESTS THAT WE MADE.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU, ABSOLUTELY.
ALL, ALL IN ALL, MADE FOR A MUCH BETTER PROJECT.
UH, THE NEXT, THE NEXT, UH, APPROVAL IS PB 20 DASH 16, CAPTAIN LAWRENCE, UH, UM, WE HAVE NOT PERFORMED SEEKER ON THIS APPLICATION.
SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO, IS TO TAKE, UM, TAKE TWO VOTES ON THE APPLICATION.
ONE IS THE, IS THE, UM, THE
UH, DO WE, UH, HAVE A VOTE? SO MOVED A SECOND.
AND THE OTHER VOTE WE HAVE TO DO IS, UH, UH, DECLARE THIS A CONDITION NEGATIVE, UH, DECLARATION ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, DO WE HAVE A PROPOSAL TO DO SUCH? UH, NOT A CONDITION, NOT A CONDITION NEGATIVE DECLARATION? NO, IT'S NOT A NEGATIVE.
YEAH, IT'S FOR A, IT'S A REGULAR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, RIGHT? CORRECT.
DO WE DON'T MOVE, MS.
SO NOW TO MOVE ON TO THE APPLICATION ITSELF OF, UH, CAPTAIN LAWRENCE ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION REQUIRES, UH, THREE VOTES.
ONE FOR AMENDED SITE PLAN, ANOTHER FOR THE PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE, AND THE OTHER ONE FOR, UM, TREE REMOVAL.
UM, I, I JUST WANT TO, WE DID GET A, A COMMENT REGARDING THIS APPLICATION ABOUT, UM, ABOUT THE ISLAND THAT, UH, UH, THAT IF YOU REMOVE THE ISLAND IN THE PARKING LOT, IT'LL BE EASIER TO SNOWPLOW AND, AND, UH, LESS ACTIVITY OF, UH, OF THE COMBUSTION ENGINE.
AND, AND, AND, AND THAT IS, AND THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT THAT HAS TO BE BALANCED AGAINST THE FACT THAT BY CODE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ISLAND AT EVERY 15 SPACES, AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BENEFIT OF ADDING A TREE TO, UH, UH, UM, OUR, UH, IN THE TOWN.
WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF INCREASE, UH, ADDING A TREE? UH, AND, AND SO WHEN, WHEN, UH, ITEMS, I DON'T, UH, NO.
WELL, PER, WE CAN'T LEGALLY, UH, DO THAT BECAUSE THE CODE REQUIRED 15 SPACES, BUT I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT BALANCE THAT AGAINST THE BENEFIT OF PLANTING TREES.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE, UH, MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT BEFORE WE TAKE A A VOTE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS APPLICATION? YES.
I HAD ONE, ONE COMMENT JUST FOR THE BOARD.
AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS IN THE, IN THE DRAFT DECISION, BUT, UM, THE BOARD ASKED ME TO TOUCH BASE WITH THE TOWN ENGINEER REGARDING, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR WATER QUALITY, UH, DEVICE OR STRUCTURE, UH, IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT.
AND THE TOWN ENGINEER HAD RECOMMENDED, AND WE SENT OUT INFORMATION REGARDING, UH, A PARTICULAR TYPE OF, UH, HYDRODYNAMIC SEPARATOR KNOWN AS THE DOWNSTREAM DEFENDER, WHICH IS, UH, A HIGH LEVEL TREATMENT FOR A, IT WAS IN A SMALL FOOTPRINT.
I SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE CONCERNING THIS DEVICE, AND THEY HAD NO OBJECTION.
UH, SO THEY WILL INCORPORATE THAT INTO THEIR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DESIGN, AND THEREFORE, UH, THEY FULFILLED THE CONDITION THAT WE'VE WRITTEN UP AS 4.3
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ON PAGE SEVEN.SO I JUST WANTED THE BOARD TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
AND, AND, AND, AND I, AND I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT FOR BEING VERY RECEPTIVE TO THIS SUGGESTION, AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO CONSIDER GOING FORWARD.
WHEN A, UH, A HOMEOWNER ON HIS DRIVEWAY HAVE A SLANTED, UH, DRIVEWAY THAT GOES OUT TO THE STREET, WE MANY TIMES ASK THAT A HOMEOWNER TO PUT IN A FRENCH DRAIN TO CAPTURE THE WATER.
AND THAT'S JUST ON A DR, UH, ON, UH, A DRIVEWAY.
SO NOW WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE PARKING AREAS, UH, TO ASK APPLICANTS TO CONSIDER THIS BECAUSE OF THE CARS AND THE, AND THE, AND THE OIL THAT MIGHT LEAK AND, AND THE, AND THE, THE GRIT THAT MIGHT TRAVEL TO DO THAT, I THINK THAT IS NOT AN UNREASONABLE THING FOR WE, FOR US TO THINK ABOUT.
SO GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, UH, WHEN WE HAVE OTHER APPLICATIONS AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE APPLICABLE.
SO ON ON THE CAPTAIN LAWRENCE, AS I INDICATED THAT ALL OF THE, UH, THE THINGS THAT WE HAD REQUESTED WAS INCORPORATED IN, UH, THE DECISION.
SO YOU DON'T SEE ANY SEPARATE SPECIAL CONDITIONS IN HERE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY FOLDED IN TO, UH, DECISION.
AND, AND THOSE ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE BY THE APPLICANT.
SO IT, NOW IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UH, UH, TAKING THE THREE VOTES.
THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, A VOTE TO AMEND THE SITE PLAN.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE SITE PLAN? NO.
SO THE NEXT VOTE WE HAVE TO TAKE IS THE, UH, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE STEEP SALT, UH, PERMIT.
UH, THE LAST ONE IS THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.
UH, MONA DID, SHE JUST BROKE UP A LITTLE IN THE TRANSMISSION.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS, THANK YOU, UH, UH, TO THE REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE THERE WATCHING.
THE NEXT A, UH, UH, DRAFT DECISION ON PB 2016 JANAI.
I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT CORRECTLY.
THAT'S 2015 WALTER PB? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, CORRECT ON THIS, THE SEEKER IS ALREADY DONE.
SO WE HAVE TWO VOTES, UH, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD, STEEP SLOPE AND THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
AND ON THIS ONE ALSO, THERE IS NO SPECIAL CONDITIONS BECAUSE ALL THE, ALL THE, UH, UH, CONCERNS OF THE PLANNING BOARD WAS INCORPORATED IN THE PLAN.
UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, I THINK THE RAILING ON TOP OF A WALL, UH, THE, UH, THE LANDSCAPING FOR THE NEIGHBOR.
UM, AND I THINK THERE'S ONE OR TWO OTHER POINTS THAT WAS MADE BY THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT THEY ALL WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN.
SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL SPECIAL CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS APPROVAL.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE GRANT THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FOR PB 20 DASH 15 CHAIR CHAIRPERSON.
CHAIRPERSON SIMON TO INTERRUPT.
UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT, WITH RESPECT TO SEEKER, WHILE THE BOARD DOES NOT HAVE TO ENTERTAIN A NEGATIVE DECLARATION, THE PROJECT DOES QUALIFY AS A TYPE TWO ACTION, AND THE BOARD'S GONNA
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WANT TO VOTE ON THAT BEFORE CONSIDERING A DECISION ON THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT OR THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.BEFORE WE TAKE A VE THEN I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE NOTES I HAVE, IS THAT SECRET'S ALREADY DONE, BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT WAS NOT.
SO WE HAVE, UH, THE MOTION AND, UH, UH, UH, AND THE SECOND, SO ALL IN FAVOR OF WE NEED A SECOND.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLASSIFYING THIS AS A TYPE TWO UNDER SECRA.
SO NOW THAT THE SEEKER'S COMPLETED, WE CAN MOVE ON TO TAKING THE ACTUAL VOTE.
AND, UM, SO, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, GRANT A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
AND I THEN MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GRANT A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
SO, UM, THAT IS GRANTED, UH, UH, THE NEXT, AGAIN, WE WANNA THANK THE, THE APPLICANT AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND, UH, GIVE HIM A GOOD NIGHT.
AND, UH, UH, WE HAVE, UH, UH, TWO VOTES.
ONE IS TO CLASSIFY THIS AS THAT UNLISTED, UH, UH, UH, UH, UNLISTED ACTION.
AND, UH, UH, NEG DECK, THIS APPLICATION, UH, THIS, UM, THE CICA.
NOW TO GO ON TO THE MERITS OF THE APPLICATION ITSELF, UM, I JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT REGARDING THIS.
NOW WE KNOW THAT FROM, UH, THE PUBLIC, THIS IS A VERY POPULAR APPLICATION.
AND WE ALSO KNOW AS THE BOARD, WE CANNOT MAKE DECISION BASED ON THE RELATIVE POPULARITY.
WE HAVE TO MAKE IT ON THE BASIS OF THE FACTS.
AND I THINK IN THIS APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT HAVE DEMONSTRATED, AT LEAST TO ME, THOROUGHLY, THAT IT IS JUSTIFIED BASED ON FACTS.
SO EVEN THOUGH NOTWITHSTANDING THE POPULARITY OF IT, IT IS JUSTIFIED BASED ON FACTS.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE APPLICATION IS FOR, IT'S FOR SHARED PARKING, AND IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF SHARED PARKING.
UH, THE BUILDINGS WAS ONLY PARTIALLY OCCUPIED.
UH, A BIG TENANT OF THAT BUILDING IS A CHURCH THAT MEETS ON SUNDAY, AND IF THEY HAVE MEETINGS DURING THE WEEK IS IN THE EVENING.
UH, WE ALSO, UH, FOUND THAT THE, THE BULK OF THE ACTIVITIES OF, UM, UH, UH, OF THE APPLICANT IS IN THE EVENING, UH, AGAIN, WHEN THE, THE TENANTS THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING, UH, UH, ARE GONE.
AND, UM, JOHN CANNON DID A TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND BASED ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY, HE, HE FOUND THAT THAT WOULD PLACE ANY, UH, UH, SIGNIFICANT BURDEN ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN, UH, THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC INDICATED THAT THERE ARE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO COME THERE BY, BY, UH, CARPOOLING AND BY MASS TRANSIT.
SO THE ACTUAL NUMBERS ARE EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN JOHN CANNON'S NUMBERS IN TERMS OF, UH, HOW MANY ACTUAL VEHICLES WILL BE IN THE, UH,
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PARKING LOT.SO TO ME, THEY HAVE THOROUGHLY DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY HAVE MET THE CRITERIA INDEPENDENT OF THE POPULARITY OF THE APPLICATION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO A, UH, WE NEED TO, UH, WELL, WE ALREADY DO TWO SEPARATE VOTES.
CHAIRPERSON SIMON, ONE ON THE SHARED PARKING AND THE OTHER ON THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
SO DO WE HAVE, UH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GRANT THE, UH, THE SHEER PARKING SECOND.
SO, GRANTED, THE OTHER ONE IS FOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE GRANT THE SPECIAL PERMIT.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
OKAY, ALL THANKS AGAIN TO THE APPLICANT.
NOW, BEFORE WE, OH, WE HAVE ONE MORE FERN.
SO THAT'S CASE NUMBER TB 21 DASH ZERO SEVEN FERNCLIFF CEMETERY.
THIS WAS A REFERRAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD ON AN AMENDED SITE PLAN APPLICATION, AND STAFF HAS PREPARED A DRAFT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PLANNING BOARD'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
WHAT HAPPENED TO MY, WHAT AM I LOST THE SCREEN.
UH, ON THAT IS, THIS IS FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN.
AND, UM, UH, UH, HERE AGAIN, UH, IN THIS, UH, APPLICATION THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT HAVE DONE A REALLY OUTSTANDING JOB OF REACHING OUT TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, LOOKING AT, UM, UH, UH, LOOKING AT THE TREES, THE BUFFER FOR THE, THE TREES THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD BE FACED WITH, UH, AND, UH, LOOKED AT THE TREES, REALIZED THAT THOSE TREES ARE NOT IN THE BEST CONDITION.
SO REMOVING THOSE TREES AND PLANTING A WHOLE LINE OF NEW TREES, UH, PUTTING UP A FENCE FOR THE NEIGHBORS, TAKING DOWN A, A, UH, CABLE LINE AND, AND BURY THAT.
AND THEN WHEN WE MET WITH THEM OUT IN THE FIELD, UH, I NOTICED THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER HOUSES TOWARD THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THAT WASN'T REALLY PART THE, UH, THE APPLICATION, BUT ASKED IF YOU COULD PUT TREES, COULD YOU, YOU KNOW, PUT IT ACROSS THOSE TWO TREES IN THE BACK.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS DONE THAT.
SO, I, I, I THINK THE APPLICANT HAD BEEN EXTREMELY, UH, RESPONSIVE TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
THEY'VE BEEN RESPONSIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS, AND THEY COME UP WITH A GOOD BASIC DESIGN.
UH, UH, SO I, I THINK, UH, WE SHOULD, UH, MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THIS APPLICATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID, AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD ALSO, UM, ISSUE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
WITH THAT SAID, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REC, UH, GIVE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO, TO THE TOWN BOARD REGARDING PB 2107 FERN CLIFF CEMETERY.
THAT YOU, YOU RAISED YOUR HAND, CORRECT.
SO, UH, UNANIMOUSLY IT'S, UH, UH, WE WILL RECOMMEND, UH, GIVE THIS A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
I, UH, I, I, UH, UH, THANK THE APPLICANT FOR HIS PROACTIVE
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ACTIVITY IN, IN, IN REALLY REACHING OUT TO MAKE THIS A GOOD PROJECT, NOT ONLY FOR FOREIGN CEMETERY, BUT FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND FOR THE TOWN.SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT I, OKAY.
IS THAT THE, YES, THAT WAS THE LAST ONE.
I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT, UH, THE REST OF THE AGENDA.
NOW, WHEN I ORIGINALLY SET UP THE AGENDA FOR NIGHT, I KNEW WE WOULD HAVE SIX DECISIONS AND I SHOULD GO THROUGH QUITE QUICKLY.
AND THEN, UH, WE WOULD DISCUSS AHEAD TIME SET ASIDE FOR THE BUSINESS DISCUSSION AND TIME SET ASIDE FOR REGENERON, I MADE TWO MISTAKES.
I GROSSLY OVERESTIMATED THE TIME WOULD, THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE BEST AND GROSSLY UNDERESTIMATED THE TIME THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO DEAL WITH, UH, WITH, UH, REGENERON.
I, I, I CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION WHEN I RECEIVED THE REGENERON PACKAGE, WHICH WAS, IS QUITE A LARGE DETAILED PACKAGE.
IT'S ACTUALLY TWO APPLICATIONS IN ONE.
AND, AND SO WHAT, SO, AND WE HAVE, UH, UH, INDICATED TO THE APPLICANT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO TODAY, UH, TONIGHT, IS TO FIRST START OFF WITH A GENERAL OVERALL DESCRIPTION OF, OF, UH, OF THE APPLICATION.
AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO DETAIL OF THE MAJOR PART, THE BUILDING ITSELF, AND THEN THE OTHER PART, UH, OF THE, THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION, UH, THAT'S NEEDED TO BUILD THE BUILDING.
SO THAT'S, SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO STEVEN.
NOW, I, IT IS NO WAY THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THE ENTIRE AGENDA TONIGHT.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
SO WHAT I HAVE DONE ALREADY IS TO PLAN AN ADDITIONAL, UH, UH, WORK SESSION FOR JUNE 16TH SO WE COULD CONTINUE, UH, THIS PROCESS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO DO THIS EVENING.
AND, UH, SO I LIKE TO START OFF WITH, UH, THE BISS RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, AND, AND THAT IS BASED ON, ON, ON, ON TWO THINGS.
WE HAD, UH, THAT MEETING THAT WENT BACK TO, WHAT'S THAT? MAY, WHAT WAS THAT? MAY 17TH CHAIRPERSON SIMON, I BELIEVE.
MAY 17TH, WHERE, UM, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER GARRETT, UH, BROUGHT UP SOME POINTS.
AND THEN BASED UPON THAT WE THEN SAID, UH, WE MODIFY THINGS AND, AND INDICATE WHERE AREAS WE SHOULD STRESS AND, AND SOME THINGS WERE MISSING OR SOME THINGS WE THOUGHT THERE, WHATEVER CHANGES SHOULD BE MADE.
AND, UH, HE CAME UP WITH, UM, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING AND WHICH YOU GOT ON FRIDAY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF WITH, UH, I WANT, I, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WAS OF CONS, I THINK THERE WERE TWO MAJOR CONCERNS THAT WE HAD FOR THAT.
ONE WAS, UH, UH, HOW DO WE ACCOUNT FOR THE GROWTH IN THE TECHNOLOGY AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT SHOULD BE BASED ON THE STORAGE CAPACITY OR THE FOOTPRINT.
AND THE OTHER MAJOR ISSUE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED WAS THE ABILITY OF, OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO BE WELL TRAINED, COORDINATE AND HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO DEAL WITH A, UH, A BATTERY FIRE.
AND, UH, THOSE POINTS WERE CAPTURED IN, UH, IN THE OUTLINE YOU HAVE THIS EVENING.
BUT LET'S DISCUSS ANY POINTS THAT YOU THINK WOULD THIS NOT CLEARLY ARTICULATE THE POSITION OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO WE COULD GO OVER THAT AND MAKE MODIFICATIONS AND THEN HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO, UH, COME UP WITH A FINALIZED RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO, SO MR. CHAIR, BEFORE WE START, WE JUST WANNA FORMALLY ANNOUNCE,
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UH, TO THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS, UH, CASE P 2104, CHAPTER 2 85, THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM FACILITY ZONING TEST.UH, THAT'S BEFORE THE BOARD NOW.
SO BOARD MEMBERS, THE FLOOR'S OPEN.
ANY COMMENTS ON THE, UH, ON THE, UM, THE RE OUR RECOMMENDATION? UH, UH, I, I, HUGH, I SPOKE TO YOU EARLIER AND YOU SAID, UH, YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND UH, I GUESS THAT WAS BEFORE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT.
SO COULD YOU ARTICULATE THOSE? SURE.
I, UH, I'M READING, UM, FROM GARRETT'S PAGE THREE ON THE RECORD PAGE THREE OF THE RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT.
AND IT'S RECOMMENDING THAT WE CONTINUE TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THEM.
AND THEN SUPPORTS ADD A REQUIREMENT THAT THE FIRE CHIEF OR THE RELEVANT FIRE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE SHALL BE CONSULTED REGARDING THIS STUFF.
BUT, UH, THE THINGS BELOW WHICH ARE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE NEEDED, UH, AND HOW THEY'RE TRAINED SUFFICIENCY OF APPROPRIATE P P E, UM, IT DOESN'T, AND, AND ACCESS TO WATER AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT THAT'S THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CONSULTING THEM.
WE NEED TO, TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING IN THE LAW THAT AT REQUIRE THAT WE NEED FEEDBACK FROM THEM ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS.
WE CAN'T HAVE, UH, I'M REACTING TO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE OUR CLEARANCE FORMS. I THINK THEY NEED TO BE CHANGED.
I THINK PEOPLE DISREGARD THEM AND, YOU KNOW, CHECK THINGS OFF AND DON'T REALLY LOOK AT THINGS SOMETIMES, PARTICULARLY EARLY ON.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL LIVES IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE, UM, SPECIFICALLY NOT JUST CONSULT WITH THEM, BUT TRY TO SOLICIT, UH, AN OPINION FROM THEM OR REVIEW FROM THEM.
HOWEVER, I KNOW WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO DO IT, BUT, UM, DAVE, YES.
UM, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WORKS FOR YOU, RATHER THAN CONSULTED, WE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE TO READ, SEEK FEEDBACK THIS WAY.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUSHING THE BALL ON THEIR COURT, AS YOU SAID, YOU CAN'T GET THEM, YOU CAN'T FORCE THEM, BUT IT'S A BIT STRONGER THAN SAYING SHALL BE CONSULTED.
AND IT, IT IS TO YOUR POINT, WHAT I'D LIKE THOUGH, AND MAYBE WE COULD, I LIKE, I THINK THAT'S A VERY HELPFUL, DAVE.
BEYOND THAT THOUGH, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS VIA A STRUCTURED QUESTIONNAIRE FOR EACH PART, PROJECT MON DO, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT? WELL, I'M GOING TO ASK DAVE A QUESTION, KIND OF.
CAN THEY BE ASKED TO SIGN OFF ON EACH PROJECT ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS? WE DO, BUT WE CANNOT.
WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL.
THEY DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER.
THEY DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THEM.
THEY'RE SEPARATE INDEPENDENT EN ENTITIES.
AND, UH, I WOULD, I MEAN, I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE IN, UH, IN, UH, FOR AN APPLICATION AT THIS POINT THAT THEY WOULD GET BACK, THAT THEY WOULD GET BACK.
UM, I'M OPEN IF THERE'S, UM, STRONGER LANGUAGE THAN SEE, SEEK FEEDBACK.
THAT WAS MY, YOU KNOW, JUST INITIAL, UH, RESPONSE, UH, MORE WRITTEN FEEDBACK, SEEK WRITTEN FEEDBACK, FEEDBACK, FEEDBACK.
AND WE CAN MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE IS VERY SPECI VERY PRECISELY OUTLINE WHAT THE ISSUES REGARDING, UH, THIS ARE IN THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO IF YOU HAD A FORM THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SUFFICIENT PERSONNEL TO DO THAT.
UH, THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRAINED.
AND WHEN, OKAY, I HAVE THIS NUMBER OF PEOPLE TRAINED AND WHEN I'VE REVIEWED, I'VE REVIEWED THE HYDRANTS AND I FOUND THEM SUFFICIENT.
SO WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A FORM THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASY.
LEMME, LEMME MAKE ONE ADDITIONAL, UH, CHANGE TO THAT, SEEK
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WRITTEN DETAILED FEEDBACK AND WE'LL PROVIDE THE DETAIL, UH, IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION HERE.WELL, CAN WE ADD A SENTENCE, SENTENCE THAT THEN ONE AT A TIME PLEASE.
DAVE, CAN WE JUST ADD A SENTENCE AFTER THAT THEN THAT SAYS WITH A SPECIFIC FORM BEING SENT OUT TO THEM THAT ASKS THE CORRECT QUESTIONS? SURE.
I WOULD ADD THAT TO THE RECOMMENDATION.
FOR PROJECTS OF A CERTAIN SIZE, I DON'T THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE, OBVIOUSLY ON THIS, ON SMALL.
IT'S ONLY TIER TWO AND TIER THREE, SO EXACTLY.
AND NOT THE UNITS IN THE HOMES? NO, JUST TIER TWO AND TIER THREE.
I DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANYTHING.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, WALTER, I HAVE A COMMENT ON THE, UH, PAGE TWO.
UH, I THINK, UH, IT SAID FIFTH BULLET WHERE WE SAYING THE, UH, FOUR TIER TWO, UH, BATTERY B BEST FACILITY.
UH, AND THERE WAS A SORT OF, UH, UH, OPTION PROPOSED AS TO, UH, A HUNDRED FEET CLOSER THAN A HUNDRED FEET.
AND THEN WE SAY AN ALTERNATE TO THE THIS RECOMMENDATION.
UH, I THOUGHT WE KIND OF SETTLED THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THE LANGUAGE AS MICHAEL PROPOSED SORT OF SAYING, WE FIRST SAY, UH, IT SHOULD BE, UH, UH, SET BACK BASED ON THE, UM, UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, AND SO AND SO, AND IF, UNLESS THE MITIGATION ANALYSIS REQUIRES TO BE CLOSER THAN, UH, I MEAN IT SHOULD BE A HUNDRED FEET OR MORE.
SO WE KIND OF MAKING THEM TO NOT START WITH A HUNDRED FEET, BUT TO COME BACK AND IF THE ANALYSIS, UH, PROVIDES THAT IT IS REALLY NEEDED TO BE A HUNDRED FEET, THEN WE SHOULD DO THAT.
BUT I THINK THOUGH, UH, IT'S SORT OF A KIND OF CONFUSING TO ME, AND I THINK BASED ON THE DISCUSSION, WE SHOULD JUST GIVE THEM THE SECOND PART OF THE SENTENCE FOR THE TIER TWO B E S S FACILITY.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU SUPPORT THE ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION, CORRECT? I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE DISCUSS WITH MICHAEL PROPOSED THAT HOW WHY DON'T WE DO THAT WAY? CORRECT.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU AGREE TO ADDING TO THAT IF WE USE THAT LANGUAGE, THAT IT CAN'T STILL CAN'T BE CLOSER THAN A HUNDRED FEET FROM A RESIDENCE? N NO, I MEAN A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED FEET IS A LONG DISTANCE.
UM, AND, AND I THINK, I THINK THESE SHOULD BE, UM, REVIEWED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
MINIMUM WOULD BE WHAT THE ZONING REQUIREMENT, YOU KNOW, ZONING REQUIRES ACCORDING TO.
AND IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FURTHER THAN THAT IF, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND ALSO HUG THAT IS A KIND OF A SEPARATE, UH, POINTS THAT WE ARE MAKING IT.
AND WHAT WE ARE REALLY SAYING IS THE SETBACK TO THE, UH, I THINK THE BUILDING SETBACK MOSTLY.
YEAH, WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M ASKING IT.
I THINK IT IS, IT IT, WHAT IT SAYS IT'S A BUILDING SETBACK.
I NO, I UNDERSTAND THE BUILD THE SETBACK FROM THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING.
'CAUSE A HUNDRED FEET IS A, IS PROBLEMATIC AND I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.
WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE MADE, BUT HUGH, LET'S LET, LET'S FINISH THE DISCUSSION ON IF YOU AGREE THAT THEN YOU WILL JUST SORT OF HAVE THAT, UH, LANGUAGE.
AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU, YOU, I THINK IT IS SOMEWHERE ELSE, SOMEWHERE OTHER PLACE.
WE ARE SAYING THAT WHAT'S, UH, DISTANCE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? YEAH, I, I THINK, UH, THAT SHOULD BE A SEPARATE UH, UH, OR SEPARATE SENTENCE.
WELL, IT'S IN THE CURRENT SENTENCE RIGHT NOW THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE OR IT PROPOSED CLOSER THAN A HUNDRED FEET TO A PROPERTY LAND.
SO ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANT TO OMIT THAT FROM THE, UH, SPECIFICALLY? NO, SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, TOM THERE WAS A SPECIFIC SETBACK FROM A THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE.
BUT, BUT HUGH, I THINK WHAT, UH, WHAT MICHAEL SAID, AND I THINK WHAT THE SENTENCE SAYS IS FOR THE, THE BATTERY STORAGE NEXT TO THE BUILDING AND THE SETBACK SHOULD BE, UH, WHAT IS UNDERLYING ZONING UNLESS IT'S REQUIRED OTHERWISE BASED ON THE MITIGATION ANALYSIS.
WELL, WELL ONE, THE PROBLEM THE THE UNDERLYING NO FOR, UH, FOR BSS, I, I DON'T THINK THE CURRENT CODE TRULY ADDRESSED THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF THE UNDERLYING, IF YOU HAVE AN, A AUXILIARY STRUCTURE SUCH AS A, YOU KNOW, A
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STORAGE SHED ON YOUR PROPERTY, THE UNDERLYING ZONING DETERMINES WHERE YOU COULD PLACE THAT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, FROM 10 FEET FROM YOUR PROPERTY LINE, EVERYTHING ELSE, SO TO SAY, IF YOU USE THAT SAME ZONING FOR BATTERY STORAGE, I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY APPLICABLE.WE TALKING ABOUT NEW TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A SHED.
SO I I I DON'T THINK IT'S VALID TO SAY THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.
UH, THE SAME RESTRICTIONS YOU HAVE ON A SHED IS THE SAME RESTRICTION YOU SHOULD HAVE ON BATTERY STORAGE.
NO, I THINK BUT BUT WHAT IS THE LANGUAGE IS WALTER, IT MIGHT SAY THAT IT SAYS THAT IT SHOULD START WITH THAT AND THEN OF COURSE WITH ALL THE ANALYSIS AND OTHER STUFF, THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT IT IS BASED ON THE MITIGATION ANALYSIS THAT THE 10 FEET IS OKAY AND THE PROCESS ALONG THE WAY.
SO WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE 10 GOING TO SAY THAT THERE IS A OPTION TO START THE POINT RATHER THAN STARTING SAYING A HUNDRED FEET AND THEN THEY COME BACK AND PROVE OTHERWISE.
SO WHAT MICHAEL, MICHAEL IDEA WAS TO REALLY REVERSE IT, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S ALL ON.
I THINK, LEMME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
LEMME GIVE YOU MICHAEL, GO AHEAD.
I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK LOOK, ASSUMING THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT SCREENING, OKAY, THAT'S GRANTED THE SUFFICIENT SCREENING.
I MEAN THE REAL QUESTION REGARDING THE PROXIMITY TO A RESIDENCE IS THE FIRE HAZARD.
SO LET'S SAY WE HAVE A RESIDENCE THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT.
75 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
YOU KNOW, IF THE SETBACK FOR THE BEST IS 25 FEET, THAT GIVES US A HUNDRED FEET.
OKAY? OR LET'S TAKE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE.
LET'S SAY THE RESIDENCE IS ONLY 15 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU WANT THE SETBACK FOR THE BEST TO BE MORE.
SO I THINK, I THINK ALL OF IT DEPENDS ON THE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES OF, YOU KNOW, THE ADJOINING STRUCTURES AND, UM, I WOULDN'T START AT A HUNDRED FEET, I'D START AT WHATEVER, 15, 20, WHATEVER THE, WELL, MICHAEL, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WHAT YOU CAN DO IN TERMS OF THAT, AS YOU CAN DO IT FROM THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE TO, TO, TO, SO THAT YOU ACTUALLY COULD, UH, DO IT THAT WAY THOUGH KIDS DO PLAY IN THE BACKYARD TOO.
I KNOW, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS.
I DON'T KNOW IF, WELL, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT THE ONE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS, I DON'T THINK IT, I I THINK THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING ALL THIS LANGUAGE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCATION FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND LOCATION FROM THE BUILDING.
WE'VE KIND OF COMBINED THE TWO CONCEPTS THAT IT'S REALLY CONFUSING.
'CAUSE WHEN, WHEN THIS IS, OR THE A HUNDRED FEET ORIGINALLY HAD TWO PURPOSES.
AND I THINK, AND ONE OF THEM WAS ACTUALLY A SLIDING SCALE DOWN FROM A HUNDRED.
MICHAEL WANTED TO DO IT UP UP TO A HUNDRED, UH, WHICH I, I HAVE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, WHICH WAS DISTANCE FROM THE, THE BUILDING ITSELF.
THAT I, THAT'S ONE, ONE ISSUE.
THE SECOND ISSUE IS, UH, SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, THE TWO, TWO SEPARATE CONCEPTS, WHICH SOMEHOW GOT MELTED INTO ONE IN THIS PARAGRAPH.
SO I DON'T THINK THE PARAGRAPH EVEN WORKS.
SO I, I, CAN I JUMP IN JUST FOR A MOMENT? I DON'T, I THINK IT'S BEING, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY TWO DIFFERENT CONCEPTS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, THE, THE PROPERTY LINE VERSUS, UH, A BUILDING SETBACK.
BUT I THINK THIS PARTICULAR BULLET SPEAKS TO PROPERTY LINE.
UM, WHEN IT TALKS AND MENTIONS PRINCIPLE BUILDING SETBACKS, IT'S REALLY REFERRING TO WHAT THOSE SETBACKS ARE IN THE UNDERLYING ZONE.
SO A PRINCIPAL BUILDING SETBACK MIGHT BE OKAY, 25 FEET FROM A PROPERTY LINE.
DO YOU FOLLOW ME? I I DO, BUT LEMME ASK MICHAEL A QUESTION THOUGH, MICHAEL.
I THOUGHT YOUR INTENTION WAS THAT 'CAUSE THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A PROVISION IN THE LAW FOR IT TO BE A HUNDRED FEET OR LESS FROM THE BUILDING ITSELF.
AND I THOUGHT WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A REALLY GOOD IDEA, IS REVERSE THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE AS CLOSE AS 10 FEET FEET, BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, THE, THE HAZARD ANALYSIS, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE, WHERE YOU WERE STARTING WITH IT NOT THE PROPERTY LINE.
AM I WRONG ON THAT? UM, I'M NOT SURE I THOUGHT OF IT BACK THEN, BUT THINKING OF IT NOW, YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
BUT, AND AGAIN, AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S LOOK AT, YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT A SITE SPECIFIC PROPOSAL AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE
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WHAT THE EXPOSURES ARE.IF THE NEAREST EXPOSURE IS A HUNDRED FEET AWAY, YOU COULD PUT THE BEST 10 FEET UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
IF THE NEAREST EXPOSURE IS 20 FEET AWAY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT THE BEST FURTHER FROM THAT EXPOSURE, WHICH MAY BE 15, 20, OR 30 OR 50 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LOT.
I THINK THE EXPOSURE IS THE KEY.
I MEAN, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF, IF, IF, IF THE SCREENING IS APPROPRIATE, AND I'M SURE IT WILL BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ISSUE REGARDING PROXIMITY TO RESIDENCES IS THE FIRE HAZARD.
BUT I THINK I, I, I THINK THE MINUTE, WALTER, YEAH.
UH, UH, I, I I I, I AGREE THE COMMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MADE IT OR MICRO MADE IT, THAT WE'RE MIXING THE TWO CONCEPTS UP.
ONE, THE DISTANCE FROM THE BUILDING AND THEN THE DISTANCE FROM THE RESIN.
SO WHAT WE MAY NEED TO DO IS LET'S SEPARATE THE TWO AND SAY WHAT IS THE CRITERIA WE'LL USE TO DETERMINE HOW FAR IT COULD BE FROM A BUILDING.
SO THAT'S ONE SET OF STANDARDS.
THEN WE SAY, WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS WE'RE GOING TO USE IN SEPARATING THEM FOR THE, FROM THE RESIDENT? AND I THINK FROM THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A CLAP PARAGRAPH OF WHAT WE DOING.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT COMMENT THAT WE ARE TRYING, WE WE'RE DOING THE SAME TWO CONCEPTS IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH, AT LEAST THE CONFUSION.
I, I THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE WALTER, BECAUSE THERE'S DISTANCE FROM THE BUILDING, DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THIS IS WHERE I CONFUSED BEFORE AND THEN DISTANCE FROM A RESIDENCE.
AND IN THIS BULLET IT'S ONLY MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND FROM THE RESIDENCE.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUILDING.
SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO ADD THAT AND SEPARATE 'EM ALL OUT.
AND THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO ZONING LAW CURRENTLY THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A SETBACK FROM THE RI HAD, WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
AND THEN I, I THINK THE DISCUSSION, I THINK WHAT WELL, WHAT THE, WHAT THE, I LIKE WHAT MICHAEL SUGGESTED WAS REGARDLESS WHETHER YOU ARE HAVING A THREE DIFFERENT THINGS OR NOT, IT IS RELYING ON THE HAZARD MITIGATION ANALYSIS.
AND I THINK WE, WE CANNOT DISCUSS A LOT, WHETHER IT'S A 10 FEET, 20 FEET, 50 FEET, A HUNDRED FEET.
AND I THINK WE ALL KIND OF CONCLUDED THAT STARTING OUT WITH A NUMBER, IT COULD BE 150 FEET IF THE ANALYSIS REQUIRE MORE THAN 400, BUT LET THE MITIGATION ANALYSIS GUIDING THE DISTANCE RATHER THAN, SO, UH, AND I THINK THAT'S A RIGHT WAY TO DO, CONSIDERING THAT IT IS A MORE PRESCRIPTIVE, UH, NOT A PRESCRIPTIVE, BUT, UH, IT, IT'S BASICALLY A YEAH, PRESCRIPTIVE WAY TO REALLY DEFINE THE DISTANCE RATHER THAN, UH, VERY SUBJECTIVELY SAYING, WHEN WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHETHER 50 IS SAFE, A HUNDRED IS SAFE OR 10 IS SAFE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I LIKE THE THINGS ABOUT RELYING MORE ON MITIGATION ANALYSIS AND THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO FOR, UH, THE LAND USE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ALL INFORMATION OF YOU.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANTED TO KIND OF START OUT WITH A, SOME MORE CONSERVATIVE NUMBER AND THEN LET THE APPLICANT DEFINE THAT.
IT IS, IT IS TOO FAR, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT, IT'S UH, IT IT'S MORE CONFUSING AND MORE DETRIMENTAL TO BUSINESS THAT WE WANT TO ATTRACT.
IF YOU KIND OF GIVE THEM, THEN THEY HAVE A UNDERSTANDING THE TOWN NEEDS RECEPTIVE TO BRINGING NEW BUSINESS AND NEW IDEAS.
UH, AND I THINK, UH, RATHER THAN SCARING THEM WITH A HUNDRED FEET TO BEGIN WITH, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID EXCEPT FOR ONE THING WE, AARON HAD HIS HAND UP PLEASE, AARON? I DID.
UH, I, I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENT, BUT I SEE THAT I DID TOO.
MR. SNAG HAS HIS HAND UP AS WELL.
UH, I AGREE WITH MICHAEL'S POINT ABOUT THE SAFETY ELEMENT BEING A PRIORITY OR SHOULD BE RATHER.
UM, AND I ALSO AGREE THAT THE UNDERLYING ZONE SHOULD KIND OF BE THE BASIS FOR WHERE WE START.
UM, ONE THING I DIDN'T SEE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MICHAEL MENTIONED THAT THE SCREENING IS APPROPRIATE.
IS, IS THERE ANY LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT SCREENING AND HAVING IT'S THE LAW.
IT'S NOT IN THE RECORD, IT'S IN THE LAW.
SO THE MITIGATION ANALYSIS COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE AS TECHNOLOGY'S EVOLVING AS WELL.
SO I THINK IT'S A SAFE BET FOR US TO GO WITH THE UNDERLYING ZONE AS OPPOSED TO MAKING, UM, ASSUMPTIONS,
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UH, ON, ON TECHNOLOGY AND THE EVOLUTION THAT WE DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND AND PUTTING IN JUST AN ARBITRARY TYPE OF, UH, BUFFER AREA OF BE IT SETBACKS OR, OR PROPERTIES.LET'S JUST GO WITH WHAT THE UNDERLYING ZONE HAS AND KEEP IT SIMPLE.
WE CAN MONITOR THE SITUATION AND THEN AS YOU KNOW, THINGS DEVELOP WE'LL, WE'LL, UM, YOU KNOW, MODIFY TO SUIT WHATEVER THE LAWS ARE.
BUT TO K'S POINT, WE, WE WANNA TRY TO, EVEN THOUGH SAFETY IS A PRIORITY, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT PROHIBITIVE FOR BUSINESSES OR THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS MODEL TO CONSIDER COMING INTO GREENBERG.
YEAH, JUST, JUST THE TOM'S POINT THERE, REALLY, THERE REALLY ARE NOT THREE ALTERNATIVES WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, TOM, BUT WE HAVE THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH YOU AGREE IS SORT OF NOT RELEVANT.
WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE RESIDENCE WHICH IS RELEVANT, BUT THE MOST RELEVANT THING WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IS STRUCTURES, YOU KNOW, EXPOSURES, BUILDINGS THAT YOU KNOW, ARE LIKELY TO CATCH FIRE IN THE NEW YORK PROXIMITY.
SO IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS 50 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND YOU HAVE A GARAGE BEHIND THE HOUSE, WHICH IS 25 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GARAGE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STRUCTURES OR IN FIRE TALK EXPOSURES.
OKAY, AARON? UH, I'VE BEEN WAITING AND I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO MICHAEL PLEASE.
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, UH, MICHAEL'S SAYING EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF A RESIDENTIAL, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
UM, THE REASON IS PEOPLE BUILD ON THE, DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY COULD, IT COULD BE A SUBDIVISION, IT COULD BE AN ADDITION TO THE HOUSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU NEED TO DO IT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO DO IT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
THEY COULD PUT A POOL HOUSE, A POOL AND A POOL HOUSE IN THERE.
SO I THINK, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT A HUNDRED FEET, MAYBE IT'S LESS THAN THAT.
BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE A MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE.
EVERYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT, I, I CAN GO ALONG WITH, BUT NOT FROM A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE.
UM, HOWARD, UH, MR. SCHWARTZ TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUTTA MY MOUTH.
THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.
I I THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT ON THESE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS A GARAGE OR A POOL POOL HOUSE.
AND YOU, I THINK YOU SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
SO MAYBE WE HAVE TO TREAT THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS DIFFERENTLY THAN THE OTHER AREAS AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO WRITE RESIDENTIAL DIFFERENTLY THAN THE OTHER AREAS.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE LAW DID.
AND, AND THAT WAS WHAT THE REASON FOR THE A HUNDRED FROM A RESIDENTIAL LINE.
WHEN, WHEN GARRETT AND I WERE PLAYING WITH THIS A WHILE AGO TOO, AND WE SAID, WELL, GEE, WE JUST WANNA PROTECT THE, FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE MIDWAY, OKAY, AND MIDWAY THE HOUSES ARE RIGHT ON TOP OF MIDWAY OTHER PLACES THEY COULD BE A HUNDRED FEET.
LIKE I THINK IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT CROSSROADS, THE HOUSES ARE MUCH FURTHER AWAY.
ALTHOUGH THEY COULD BE DEVELOPED.
RIGHT? SO THE REASON THAT WAS THE REASON FOR, FOR PUTTING A MINIMUM IN, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, WE DON'T KNOW DEPENDING ON THAT.
SO I WANTED, WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TO TRY TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTIAL ZONES AND A HUNDRED MAY BE TOO MUCH, BUT A HUNDRED MAY IS PROBABLY TOO MUCH.
BECAUSE I THINK YOU, IF WE DID A HUNDRED, WE MAY ACTUALLY BE KNOCKING OUT A LOT OF POTENTIAL PLACES WHERE THIS COULD DO SOME GOOD.
AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THESE DO AS MUCH GOOD AS EVERYBODY THINKS THEY DO UNLESS WE HAVE SOLAR POWER OR WIND POWER.
BUT WE MAY BE KNOCKING OUT TOO MANY PLACES IF WE MAKE THE SETBACK TO RESIDENTIAL.
UH, DID YOU KNOCK IT OUT FOR GO AHEAD.
KNOCK IT OUT FOR TIER TWO AFTER TIER THREE OR JUST TIER THREE? WELL, TIER TIER, NO, TIER THREE IS GOOD.
YOU KNOCK IT OUT FOR TIER TWO ALSO.
SO IT'S, THIS IS FOR TIER TWO.
THE ISSUE HERE IS REALLY TIER TWO, NOT TIER THREE.
SO I HAVE TO TELL YOU, WHEN WE WERE DRIVING DOWN, WE SAW A LOT OF TIER TWO BESTS THAT WERE FEEDING EV CHARGERS.
AND THEY WERE IN SHOPPING CENTERS LIKE MIDWAY? YEP.
WHERE ARE THEY THOUGH? THEY'RE IN THE FRONT.
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T GO NEAR THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
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THE FRONT OF, FRONT OR THE SIDE, NOT IN THE BEHIND, BUT NEVER BEHIND.I, OR ON TOP ON THE ROOF, WALTER.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS IN ON THOSE POINTS THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT AND ON THOSE POINTS THAT THERE'S STILL OUTSTANDING ISSUES, AND THEN TRY TO SEE HOW WE GOING TO RESOLVE THOSE OUTSTANDING ISSUES.
I THINK, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE COULD GET UNIVERSAL AGREEMENT THAT THE DISTANCE, THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, UH, PRO UH, PROPERTY SHOULD BE AT THE PROPERTY LINE AS OPPOSED TO THE STRUCTURE.
BECAUSE YOU COULD ALWAYS PUT ANOTHER STRUCTURE ON THAT PROPERTY THAT WOULD SHORTEN THE DISTANCE.
SO THE DISTANCE SHOULD BE THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT DEVELOPMENT TAKES PLACE, THAT DOES NOT AFFECT IT.
IS THAT, IS THAT AGREEMENT, YOU HAVE AGREEMENT ON THAT POINT? OKAY.
THE OTHER POINT IS THAT THE, UH, UH, THE BASELINE DECISION SHOULD, UH, BE ON, UM, UH, HAZARDED ANALYSIS.
SO WHATEVER DISTANCE WE COME UP WITH, THE, THE FINAL DISTANCE WILL BE BASED ON THE SAFETY ANALYSIS.
BUT THE EXCEPTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL YES.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL BOARD WHEN IT BORDERS ON THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
WHEN, SO WAIT A MINUTE, WES, WE ARE SAYING THAT THE DISTANCE MUST BE AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO NOW YOU, YOU SAID TWO THINGS.
YOU SAID ONE, WE SHOULD MEASURE THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, THE SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
I THINK THAT'S CORRECT, THE PLACE.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS THAT WE SHOULD ADOPT MICHAEL'S, UH, LANGUAGE SIMILAR CLOSE TO WHAT MICHAEL SAID WITH LIEUTENANT MICHAEL SAID ON SETBACKS THAT IT'S DICTATED AND CORRECT.
UH, UH, ALSO SAID, UH, THE SETBACKS ARE BASED ON THE SAFETY ANALYSIS.
TO THE LIMIT, LET ME CLARIFY, LET ME CLARIFY MY STATEMENT THAT IT'S BASED ON THE PROPERTY LINE, THAT'S A GIVEN, WHATEVER.
THEN WITHIN THAT, RIGHT? THEN SUBSEQUENT DECISIONS WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE SAFETY ANALYSIS.
EXCEPT FOR, EXCEPT A LONGER RESIDENTIAL LINE WHERE THERE'S DISAGREEMENT RIGHT NOW EXCEPT ALONG THE RESIDENT.
YOU, WE SAYING THAT THE, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE PROPERTY LINE IS NOT NO, I'M SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T USE JUST THE SAFETY ANALYSIS.
I WANNA SEE, AT LEAST I DO, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE, BUT I WANNA SEE A MINIMUM BUFFER ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL LINE.
IF FOR INSTANCE, YEAH, IF IT'S IN, LEMME JUST FINISH.
IF THERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES, ONE IS WHERE YOU'VE GOT A COMMERCIAL ZONE OR AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE, THE BORDERS ON A RESIDENCE, THAT'S ONE, ONE.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS WHEN YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE TYPE TWOS WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, IN EITHER CASE, I WOULD LIKE A MINIMUM SETBACK FROM THAT RESIDENTIAL LINE THAT HAS, IS NOT DICTATED BY, UM, THE SAFETY ANALYSIS A MINIMUM BUFFER.
YOU, YOU HOW MUCH, HOW, HOW, LOOK, I, I GOT YOUR POINT ABOUT THE POOL HOUSE AND BUILDING GARAGE.
HOW FAR FROM THE, YOU KNOW, LINE WOULD YOU WANT THE, THE PROPERTY BE AT A MINIMUM? I'M, I'M THINKING A HUNDRED'S TOO MUCH, MICHAEL.
CAN I, CAN I SUGGEST WHICHEVER IS MORE THE MITIGATION ANALYSIS AND THE, THE UNDERLYING ZONE BUFFER, WHICHEVER IS MORE THE TWO.
WELL THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE OTHER PROBLEM.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT THEY'RE MEANT TO DO.
THAT'S, THAT IS A BUFFER BY DEFINITION.
I, I THINK THE, MY, MY MAJOR CONCERN WITH, UH, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HERE IS TO PUTTING A NUMBER IS THE, IS THE REALLY THE WRONG WAY TO GO WHEN WE REALLY DON'T KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY.
WE, SO NOW, SO THAT'S REALLY A FUNDAMENTAL REASON WE WANTED TO RELY ON THE DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY.
UH, THAT WILL DICTATE WHAT THE DISTANCE, EITHER FROM PROPERTY LINE, WHETHER THE ZONE ON ZONING ON OTHER SIDE IS RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY OR WHATNOT.
BUT THE IMPORTANT THINGS WE WANTED TO COMMUNICATE IS THAT SINCE WE DON'T KNOW YOU, AND AS YOU SAY IT COULD BE A HUNDRED, COULD BE 50.
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TO GUESS A NUMBER WHEN WE REALLY ARE SHOOTING INTO DARK? EXACTLY.THE, EXACTLY FOR THE REASON YOU JUST SAID, LEMME FINISH, LEMME FINISH.
I'M NOT, THE SECOND PART IS THAT, HOW DO YOU SAY THE REST? THE PEOPLE LIVING IN A RESIDENT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE GUY WHO'S DOING SHOPPING INTO A, INTO A SHOPRITE AND SHOP RIDE.
IF THERE IS A, THERE IS A, IT IS IS A DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR PERSON WHO SHOPPING THAN THE PERSON WHO IS LIVING, WHICH HE MAY NOT BE ON THERE OR ON A VACATION.
SO LET'S GOTTA BE CONSISTENT, THAT'S ALL.
BEFORE YOU DO THAT, LET ME ANSWER THE QUESTION THEN.
WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST THEN YOU SAY WE SHOULDN'T PUT IN NUMBERS AND USE, SO WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING? AND THEN, UH, THEN YOU, WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING? YOU ASKING ME? YEAH, YOU SAID THAT YOU DON'T, I I THINK YOU SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD SAID THAT YOU DON'T AGREE TO I THINK I, YEAH, I PROPOSE PROPOSAL.
WHAT IS YOUR COUNTER PROPOSAL? I PROPOSE THAT WE SHOULD RELY ON WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS THERE AND THEN WE SHOULD, UH, MAKE IT SURE THAT WE ALWAYS REQUIRE A HAZARD MITIGATION ANALYSIS.
AND THE SECOND THING, WHICH IS I THINK SAY CONCRETE FIREWALL, WE SHOULD DEFINE IT'S A FOUR HOUR RATED, UH, BARRIER BETWEEN THE, UH, UH, BETWEEN THE, THE FA THE BEST FACILITY AND THE, WHETHER IT IS A SHOPPING CENTER, WHETHER IT IS A OKAY, UH, UH, RESIDENTIAL OR ANYTHING.
IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE, THE RATING OF THE WALL IS VERY CRITICAL AND THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO CONTAIN THE FIRE HAZARDS AND, AND, AND WILL PROVIDE ENOUGH SAFETY ON OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL.
AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE CLEARLY MENTIONED INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING CONCRETE FIREWALL.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE NEW YORK CITY IS REQUIRED.
SO GO TO HUGH, UH, JOHAN, AND THEN DAVID.
FIRST OF ALL, FOR OUR FIREWALL, WHEN, WHEN THIS FIRE COULD BURN FOR 24 HOURS OR MORE, I'M NOT SURE SURE.
HOW MUCH PROTECTION IT ACTUALLY ACTUALLY GIVES UP OVER, OVER TIME.
FOUR HOUR FIREWALLS ARE MEANT FOR, FOR FIRES THAT BURN OUT.
BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING, THE PRECISE REASON WHY YOU WANNA PUT A BUFFER IN NOW IS THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
THERE HAVE BEEN DISASTERS FROM THESE THAT THESE THINGS.
AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT YOU CAN CONTAIN THE FIRE, BUT YOU CAN'T CON CONTAIN THE NOXIOUS FUMES THAT COME OFF OF THIS FIRE.
OKAY? UM, WHICH IS WHY YOU WANNA HAVE SOME OF THESE SETBACKS.
THE DIFFERENCES ARE THE REASON WHY I SAY ON A RESIDENCE VERSUS, VERSUS THE BUILDING.
I MEAN, I'D PROBABLY PUT IT IN ANOTHER BUILDING TOO, AT 50 FEET, BUT I, I WILL, I WILL, UH, ACQUIESCE TO WHAT PEOPLE'S DESIRES HERE.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THE BUILDING IS BUILT OUTTA CONCRETE.
PEOPLE ARE PLAYING, KIDS ARE PLAYING UNSUPERVISED OUTSIDE THE BACKYARD.
OKAY? UH, THERE ARE, THERE ARE NO, IN MOST CASES, ORGANIZED WAY OF, OF REMOVING THOSE KID KIDS.
LIKE THERE ARE, ARE FIRE DRILLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN SHOPPING CENTERS.
SO I, UNTIL WE KNOW MORE, WE MAY REMOVE IT OVER TIME, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A TWO, TWO YEAR, UH, PERIOD IN WHICH, AFTER WHICH WE REVIEW IT AGAIN.
BUT FOR SAFETY SAKE AND FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMFORT OF RESIDENTS, I WOULDN'T WANNA PUT THIS ANY, THIS, ANY CLOSER THAN 50 FEET AND IT 50 FEET AND FROM, FROM, UH, A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE, MINE, I MEAN, I A HUNDRED IS PROBABLY TOO MUCH.
YOU KNOW, MICHAEL ASKED THE QUESTION, AND I'M GIVING HIM MY, MY HONEST ANSWER OF WHERE I'D FEEL COMFORTABLE, WHICH IS 50.
OKAY? RIGHT? NOW, DO I HAVE ANYTHING TO BASE IT ON? NO.
ACTUALLY, WOULD I WANT THIS, SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHIN 50 FEET OF MY LIFE? FROM A VISUAL POINT OF VIEW? PROBABLY NOT E EITHER, BUT CLEARLY THERE'RE GONNA BE SOME PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THESE THINGS EARLY ON.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE RESIDENTS UNCOMFORTABLE IN THEIR OWN OWN BACKYARDS.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT BUFFER IN.
UH, HAN YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THE, THE POINT THAT I MADE BEFORE THE, THE GREATER OF THE TWO, THE, UM, MITIGATION ANALYSIS AND THE UNDERLYING BUFFER ZONE, IT JUST MAKES SENSE.
WHICHEVER, IF, IF BY CHANCE THERE'S A RISK TO THE, UH, NEXT DOOR PROPERTY, THEN THE MITIGATION ANALYSIS WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.
AND IF THERE ISN'T, THEN THE, THE BUFFER WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.
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AND AS THAT TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES TO KURT'S POINT AND THE RISK MIGHT BE REDUCED, THEN WE NO LONGER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE MITIGATION ANALYSIS IF THE BUFFER ALREADY COVERS THAT.SO IT'S, IT'S THE BEST OF BOTH.
UM, I THINK, UM, AND THIS IS MORE IN AN EFFORT TO MOVE THIS ALONG.
THE, YOU HAVE ONE AREA, AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS, UH, AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S FINE TO SEND A RECOMMENDATION OUT THAT COVERS THE THINGS THAT YOU AGREE ON AND POINT OUT TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT YOU DON'T HAVE UNANIMITY.
THERE'S SOME DISAGREEMENT ON THIS.
AND WHETHER YOU, YOU PICK A NUMBER, WHETHER YOU PICK THAT 50 NUM, UH, 50 FOOT NUMBER, UH, OR NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, I THINK YOU GET THAT TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THEY CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION AND INPUT AS TO WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS.
UH, OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST GONNA BE KICKING THE CAN AROUND ALL EVENING.
AND SO I SUGGEST, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THIS ISSUE, YOU GET TO THE, THE PART THAT EVERYONE AGREES TO, AND THEN YOU MAKE A STATEMENT.
AND IT CAN BE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME MEMBERS FELT X VERSUS SOME MEMBERS FELT Y, BUT YOU GET THAT UP TO THE TOWN BOARD, WHY NOT A STRAW VOTE INSTEAD.
BUT, BUT IT'S A
I MEAN, I, I, JOHANN'S LANGUAGE IS FINE WITH ME.
I THINK IT, IT DOES EXACTLY WHAT I WANT IT TO DO.
I, I THINK IN ORDER TO VOTE, WE NEED TO HAVE THE LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, SPOKEN OUT AGAIN OR STATED CLEARLY, BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS.
JOHAN, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR, OKAY, SO WE WE'RE DOING THE GREATER OF THE TWO, EITHER WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE MITIGATION ANALYSIS IS, OR THE UNDERLYING ZONE, THE GREATER OF THE TWO.
SO IF THE UNDERLYING ZONE SAYS 25 AND THE SAFE AND THE MITIGATION ANALYSIS SAYS 35, THEN THEY HAVE TO GO WITH THE 35.
YEAH, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
WHAT'S THE DOWNSIDE? BECAUSE AGAIN, JUST VOTING NO DISCUSSION.
I, I I THOUGHT YOU WERE AGREEING TO THE BUFFER.
THAT'S WHAT I, I THOUGHT ON DISCUSSION.
WE'RE TAKING A STRAW POLL ON YOUR HEAD.
SUGGESTION, TOM? UH, I WANNA INCLUDE THE BUFFER.
OTHERWISE, I'M FINE WITH IT FOR RESIDENTIAL ONLY.
AND 50 MAY NOT BE THE PERFECT NUMBER, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO START THERE.
IT'S A TOTAL UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT.
NONA, YOU NEED TO COME OFF MUTE.
I HAVE TO SAY, UM, KIND OF WITH, WITH TOM, I, I THINK IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WE NEED 50 WITH A BUFFER.
I THINK, UH, UH, SINCE 50 OR A HUNDRED, IT'S SUCH A, SUCH AN ARBITRARY NUMBER.
WE ARE PICKING UP WHERE, SO I, I LIKE THE HANS, UH, LANGUAGE, WHICH IS SIMPLE, CLEAN, AND VERY, UH, VERY, VERY GOOD, BETTER, WHATEVER.
AND I THINK, UH, IF THERE IS A, ANY KIND OF, AND ALWAYS CAN, UH, CAN GO AND, UH, OVERRIDE THAT.
OKAY? UH, UH, MY POSITION IS THAT, UH, I LIKE HU HAND'S A, UH, APPROACH.
THAT IS THE, THE, UH, THE BIGGER OF, OF THE TWO, UH, UH, EITHER IS THE MITIGATION OR, OR, OR, UM, OR DISTANCE.
UH, BUT I ALSO, UH, AGREE WITH HUGH THAT IN, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL, THERE SHOULD BE SOME NUMBER THERE.
UH, UH, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S A HUNDRED.
UH, UH, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT'S 50, BUT I, I, I, I COULD GO WITH 50.
THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO IS TO GO WITH WHAT JOHAN IS ADVOCATING, BUT FOR RESIDENTIAL, WE HAVE A NUMBER, THE NUMBER THAT WAS FLOATED IS 50 FEET.
SO WHAT WE COULD DO IS WHEN WE WRITE, WRITE UP THE, UH, OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S SEE WHERE THE MAJORITY IS, AND THEN WHICHEVER WAY IT COMES OUT, WE POINT OUT IN THE RECOMMENDATION.
HOWEVER, THERE WERE TWO, THREE, WHATEVER BOARD MEMBERS WHO FELT THAT THIS SHOULD BE, UH, UH, CONSIDERED.
OKAY? SO THE TOWN BOARD WILL KNOW WHAT THE MAJORITY
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IS THINKING, BUT THEY ALSO WILL KNOW THAT THERE ARE REALLY, UH, OTHER CRITICAL ISSUES THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAVE THAT SHOULD BE, UH, BE IN THE RECOMMENDATION.OKAY? SO IF WE PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF A PROPOSAL, THAT WOULD, UH, I PROPOSE THAT WE ACCEPT, UH, THE LANGUAGE THAT JOHANN, UH, ADVOCATING, UH, WITH A 50 FOOT BUFFER IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
WHAT ARE WE IN FAVOR OF? NOW THAT WE'RE TELLING THE BOARD BOTH PROPOSITION, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
I'M PROPOSING THAT WE, UH, UH, ACCEPT JOHANN'S PROPOSAL, WHICH, SO THE WRITER OF VIEWS THAT IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, IT'S 50 FEET.
AND WHEREVER THAT VOTE COMES OUT TO BE, THAT WE RECORD THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO THINK DIFFERENTLY.
AND WE, AND WE PUT THAT IN THE REPORT THAT THERE ARE BOARD MEMBERS WHO THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO DISTANCE.
OKAY? SO MY PROPOSAL IS YOU, IS JOHANN'S LANGUAGE WITH THE 50 FOOT WRITER.
SO IT CAN BE COUNTED IF IT'S AN I.
SO MY LANGUAGE WITH THE 50 FOOT, UH, MINIMUM AND RESIDENTIAL MINIMUM ON RESIDENTIAL.
AND THE ALTERNATIVE IS JUST MY RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT THE 50 FOOT, RIGHT? OH, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
I I, I, I MISINTERPRET WHAT YOU SAID.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU INCLUDED THAT 50 FOOT, SO NO, NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, THEY DIDN'T 50.
HE DIDN'T, I'M YOU, YOU DIDN'T, YEAH, CORRECT.
BUT I'M, I'M PROPOSING THAT WE TAKE YOUR PROPOSAL WITHOUT 50 FOR RESIDENTIAL AND THEN ADD HUGH'S COMMENT AS WALTER.
WALTER, I HAVE ANOTHER SUGGESTION.
EVERY, EVERY, EVERYBODY AGREES ON, YOU KNOW, JOHAN'S, YOU KNOW, JOHAN'S GREATER THAN WHATEVER, RIGHT? RIGHT.
FOR NON RESIDENTIAL, WITH RESPECT TO RESIDENTIAL, LOOK, LET ME JUST SIDETRACK.
I GOT A BEST PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, 25 FEET FROM THE NEXT RESIDENCE IS A 25 FOOT RETAINING WALL GOING UP, OKAY? MM-HMM.
SO LOOK, WHY DON'T WE SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ADOPT JOHAN'S SUGGESTION FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL WITH RESPECT TO RESIDENTIAL.
WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY THIS? WE AGREE THERE SHOULD BE A MINIMUM DISTANCE.
SOME PEOPLE THINK IT SHOULD BE 50 ON THE PLANNING BOARD.
SOME PEOPLE THINK OF IT SHOULD BE 25, BUT WE LEAVE THIS TO THE WISE DISCRETION OF THE TOWN BOARD TO DECIDE ON THE ACTUAL MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
I THOUGHT WE JUST TOOK, I THOUGHT WE JUST TOOK A VOTE AND IT WAS 4, 3, 3, STAY.
WE'RE, WE'RE, I GUESS THE VOTE DOESN'T COUNT.
NOW, IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU WANNA PRESS ON THAT, THAT'S OKAY WITH NO, NO, I DO, I I DON'T THINK COMPROMISE I DO.
SO NOW WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN, IN, IN, IN DESCRIBING, UH, UH, UH, THE FEELINGS OF, OF THE, UH, THOSE BOARD MEMBERS WHO DID NOT AGREE TO THAT, IS TO INDICATE EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, MICHAEL.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I VOTED.
YOU GOT WHAT'S ON THE RECORD? OKAY.
WE'LL INCLUDE EXACTLY WHAT YOU, NOW I WANT FLEXIBILITY.
COULD, DO YOU HAVE A REASON WHY YOU VOTED NO? SO WE COULD INCLUDE THAT? YEAH, BECAUSE YOU JUST GAVE IT, I THOUGHT ABOUT CORRECT VOTED NO ON THE 50, BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WHERE 50 MAY NOT MAKE SENSE.
75 MAY 20 MAY MAKE PERFECT SENSE.
I MEAN, WHAT DO I GIVE A VARIANCE? OKAY, VARIANCE.
LET WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET SOMETHING DONE.
WHAT THE ZONING BOARD SAY, WE WILL INCLUDE THAT.
ARTHUR, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THIS.
NOW LET'S TAKE, DO THE VOTE AND WE'VE GOT VOTE.
NO, NO, WE ALREADY VOTED THAT, THAT, BUT, BUT NOW WE'RE, I'M SAYING IN, IN THE
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DISSENT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE MICHAEL'S COMMENT.NOW, WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE CORRECT DISSENT.
CAN YOU VERBALIZE WHAT YOUR DISSENT IS? I DISSENT BECAUSE ANY NUMBER YOU PICK IS ARBITRARY AND WITHOUT BASIS IN SCIENCE.
UH, AND, UH, ALSO, SORRY, THE, IT IS, UH, AND WHAT MICHAEL'S SAYING, AND THEN ON THE PRACTICAL SIDE, WHEN YOU SAY PROPERTY LINE FROM THERE, IF MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER PUTS THE BEST FACILITY ON A FRONT OF IT, WOULD THAT ALSO MAKE IT A DISTANCE FROM THE BEST FACILITY TO THE PROPERTY LINE? NO.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING LEMME FINISH.
YOU HAVE TO, WE, WE, LEMME FINISH YOU.
SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, YEAH.
WHAT YOU, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, THANK YOU.
TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE YOUR ARGUMENT, NOT TO PUT IN, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER WHOLE, YOU KNOW, MICHAEL'S ARGUMENT WAS CLEAR.
WE COULD EASILY CAPTURE THAT ON PAPER IN THE RECOMMENDATION.
WHAT I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL DO IS TO MAKE YOUR OBJECTION CLEAR SO WE COULD CAPTURE THAT AND PUT THAT IN THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO TRY TO FOCUS STRICTLY ON WHAT YOUR OBJECTIONS ARE SO WE COULD CAPTURE THAT FOR THE RECORD AND MAKE SURE THAT'S INCLUDED.
AS I SAY, THE DISTANCE NUMBER IS BASED ON NO SCIENCE.
AND ALSO THE, THE LANGUAGE OF PROPERTY LINE TO THE BEST FACILITY IS ALSO UNCLEAR.
SO WE'LL MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE.
NOW, DO, UH, UH, AARON, UH, AND DAVID, DO YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT GUIDANCE TO CAPTURE THOSE WORDS AND SEND OUT A, UH, DRAFT SO WE COULD LOOK AT IT BEFORE WE SEND IT TO THE TOWN BOARD? UH, I DO HAVE QUITE A FEW NOTES.
UH, I DID WANT TO ASK FOR JOHAN'S, UM, SENT AS WELL, BECAUSE I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GET THAT ON RECORD.
I MIGHT, ASSENT WILL MIRROR BOTH MICHAELS AND, UH, RIZZ, SIMPLY PUT, THANK YOU.
SO, UH, THE TOWN BOARD MEETING IS WHEN? NINTH.
NO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET DONE.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO, UH, UH, CIRCULATE THE DOCUMENT, UH, UH, AMONG THE PLANNING OF BOARD MEMBERS SO THEY COULD SEE IF THIS FINAL DOCUMENT IS CONSISTENT TO WHAT WE JUST SAID THIS EVENING.
AND THEN WE COULD, UH, UH, UH, UM, TAKE A VOTE BY EMAIL AND THAT, THAT WE CAN LEGALLY DO THAT.
DAVID? YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THE VOTE NOW BASED ON THE LANGUAGE AND LANGUAGE IS FOUR TO THREE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY.
BUT I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION WHEN I, UH, CONCLUDE THIS.
UH, YOU MAY TO SAY THAT YOU HAD REACHED UNANIMITY ON, UM, YOU KNOW, ON EVERYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THIS PARTICULAR BULLET POINT WHERE THERE WAS, UH, DISAGREEMENT, UH, IT WAS FOUR TO THREE.
UH, THE FOURS, UH, HAVE THE BUFFER AND THE THREE WERE AGAINST FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE WAS, 'CAUSE I WAS NOT SURE, UM, WHETHER WE'VE DISCUSSED THE WHOLE DOCUMENT.
I'VE MADE COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE WERE, UM, UH, COMMENTS MADE EARLIER, WHICH I OFFERED SOME LANGUAGE FOR.
AND, AND HE AND I DISCUSSED, BUT I WAS NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE WE'VE DISCUSSED THE WHOLE DOCUMENT BEFORE WE, UH, BEFORE WE PUT THIS WHOLE DOCUMENT TO A VOTE.
AND DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE SPECIFIC THING THINGS THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP? BECAUSE I'M FINE.
I, I THINK THESE ARE THE KEY FOR ME.
I, I DON'T, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT EVERYONE THAT OKAY, PRE I PREFACE MY, UH, MY STATEMENT THAT WE HAD, THE, THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS WE HAD AND THE MEETINGS WE HAD WITH GARRETT.
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AND THEN THIS DOCUMENT RE UH, IS SUPPOSED TO REFLECT THOSE COMMENTS.AND IF ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAD ANY COMMENTS, SO FELT THAT THEY DID, THEY DID NOT, THEN LET'S DISCUSS IT.
AND THAT'S WHEN THE ISSUE OF SAFETY CAME IN.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ONLY TALKED ABOUT SAFETY, BECAUSE NONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, FELT THAT, UH, UH, THERE WAS ANY INCONSISTENCY WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HIT THAT AND THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE BEYOND THAT IN CASE WE HAD NOT REACHED THAT YET.
JUST THAT, JUST ASK, ASK EVERYBODY.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER POINTS THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? OTHER THAN WHAT, UH, DAVID VERY, UH, I THINK ACCURATELY SUMMARIZED MONA.
UM, YEAH, I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO ADD ONE WORD IN, IN, UM, THE BULLET POINT HERE ON PAGE THREE, UM, AT THE VERY LAST SENTENCE WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING TO OTHER FIRE DISTRICTS, IF THEY COULD ADD THE WORD PAID FIRE DISTRICTS, BECAUSE IT'S A BUDGETING ISSUE.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF ALL OF THE, UM, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS ARE AWARE THAT WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED, UM, DISTRICT HERE, ALL OF OUR FIRE DISTRICTS ARE PAID FIREMEN, WHEREAS IN THE VILLAGES, THEY'RE ALL VOLUNTEER FIRE DISTRICTS.
SO IT'S A DIFFERENT BUDGETING ISSUE.
SO YOU WANNA CHANGE THAT TO, OR ADD TO OTHER FIRE AID FIRE.
I'M NOT SURE YOU WANNA ADD THAT.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT, DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, THE ARDSLEY FIRE PEOPLE SHOWING UP AT ONE OF THESE FIRES UNTRAINED, AND THEY DO HAVE A BUDGET BY THE WAY.
THEY JUST, THEY GET A BUDGET TO PAY FIRE THROUGH VILLAGE.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE AS FAR CONTROL.
BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WANT, I I I DON'T THINK YOU WANT VOLUNTEER FIRE UNTRAINED VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS SHOWING UP AT ONE OF THESE FI FIRES.
UM, I THINK THAT IS A SCARY, SCARY THOUGHT.
AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH.
I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO, YOU SHOW UP WITH MUTUAL AID AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.
WELL, THAT'S WHY I THINK MAYBE WHAT WE DO TO, TO, I THINK MOTOR'S POINT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
THE WAY TO ADDRESS IT IS SAY THAT WE HAVE A CONCERN OF, OF, OF HOW YOU WOULD UTILIZE THE VOLUNTEER GIVEN THEIR LIMITED BUDGET AND THE VOLUNTEER STATUS OF THE FIRE DISTRICTS.
HOW, HOW YOU WOULD, UH, GET THOSE PEOPLE TRAINED TO ASSIST IF, IF NEED BE.
I THINK THAT'S A QUES QUESTION TO, FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO, AND LET THE TOWN BOARD ADDRESS THAT.
BUT LET, I MEAN, WITH RESPECT TO MONA'S CONCERN, I GET WHERE HER POINT IS.
I DON'T THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, IT'S IS CONTRARY.
SO LET ME READ SPECIFICALLY WHAT, HOW MONA HAS IT, UH, SAID PARTICULAR CONCERN IS NOTED WITH RESPECT TO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE ASSISTING WHO MAY NOT RECEIVE THE TRAINING AND PERHAPS THE FUNDING FOR EQUIPMENT THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO OTHER PAID FIRE.
SO, SO NOW LET'S GET BACK TO THANK YOU.
UH, ON, ON, UH, ON, ON ON OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH, UH, THE DOCUMENT AND THAT, UM, UH, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES THAT WERE, UH, IDENTIFIED THAT RELATES TO SAFETY.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, UH, ONE, UH, WE TOOK A VOTE, UH, AND WE, UH, THERE WAS A MAJORITY THAT, UH, SUPPORTED, UH, UH, JOHAN'S, UM, UH, ASPECTS OF JOHAN, UH, UH, PROPOSAL THAT INCLUDED, UH, UM, USING EITHER THE, UM, UH, THE SETBACK OR, OR THE MITIGATION, WHICHEVER IS GREATER.
UH, WE ALSO AGREED THAT IT SHOULD HAVE
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A MAJORITY AGREED THAT IT SHOULD HAVE A 50 FOOT BUFFER.THERE WAS TWO DISSENTERS WHO DISAGREED, THAT THERE'S THREE DISSENTERS WHO DISAGREED THAT THERE WOULD BE A, A, UH, MINIMUM OF A 50 FOOT, UH, BUFFER.
AND THEN WE INDICATE THE, UM, UH, UH, UM, MICHAEL'S REASON WE INDICATE GR REASON.
AND, AND, AND JOHAN WHO INDICATED HE AGREED WITH MICHAEL.
SO THAT'S THE WAY, UH, UM, IT SHOULD BE, UH, WRITTEN UP WITH, WITH ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
CAN I SUGGEST ONE THING, UH, WALTER? YES.
UM, I, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE POSITIVE THAN THAT.
THIS IS, THIS IS A WELL-WRITTEN LAW AND A LOT OF WORK.
I THINK I, I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR BOARD VOTE ON SUPPORTING THE, SUPPORTING THE LAW OKAY.
WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE, BOTH WITH OUR SUGGESTIONS FOR MODIFICATIONS BELOW, BUT SUPPORTING THE LAW BECAUSE OKAY.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE TONE NECESSARILY DOES THAT NOW.
UH, UH, SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE AN OFFICIAL VOTE THAT WE TO SUPPORT THE ADOPTION OF LAW.
IF, IF, IF, DO WE HAVE, UH, I'M PUT THAT TO VOTE.
DO, UH, THAT WE SUPPORT THE COMMENTS THAT, THAT HUGH MADE THAT OVERALL WE SUPPORT THE LAW WITH, UH, ON, UH, RECOGNIZING AND IDENTIFYING THE CONCERNS OF THREE BOARD MEMBERS? NO, NO, NO.
I SAID WE SUPPORT THE, WE, WE OVERALL SUPPORT THE LAW, UH, WITH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME, SOME MODIFICATIONS, UH, THAT, THAT WE RECOMMEND BELOW.
SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN? WE, UH, WE VOTED FOR THE LAW WITH THE OUTLINE, UM, UH, MODIFICATIONS AS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED.
SO IF YOU WRITE THAT UP, BECAUSE WE ALREADY TOOK THE VOTE AND, AND SENT IT AROUND TO THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WHAT'S IN THERE REFLECTED THE VOTE.
WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY RE UH, REVO, RIGHT? WE GET READING THE DOCUMENT TO MAKE SURE IT REFLECTED WHAT WE JUST SAID, CORRECT.
IT IS A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MADE THAT, WITH RESPECT TO THAT ONE BULLET POINT, UH, IT IS FOUR TO THREE, AND WE WILL CAPTURE THE CONCERNS OF THE THREE WHO DISSENTED WITH RESPECT TO THAT ONE BULLET POINT.
SO YOU DO THAT AND AARON'S GOT A QUESTION THOUGH.
SO DAVID AND I WILL WORK ON THAT TOMORROW.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER REQUEST THAT I'D MAKE IS TO VOTE ON THE REPORT AS WELL, GOING TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO THERE WAS AN ACCOMPANYING REPORT THAT WAS PREPARED, AND YOU'LL WANT TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT AS WELL.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY REVISIONS TO IT, BUT DAVID AND I CAN GO THROUGH IT AGAIN TOMORROW IN GREATER DETAIL AND WE'LL ADVISE, UH, THE BOARD IF THERE ARE ANY LANGUAGE MODIFICATIONS BASED ON THE DISCUSSION NIGHT TONIGHT AND THE VOTE MADE ON THE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF.
YEAH, AARON, I, WHEN I WENT THROUGH IT, I MEAN, I, I FRANKLY IT'S CONFUSING THAT WE'RE DOING BOTH TO SOME EXTENT.
I GUESS WE HAVE TO UNDER, UNDER THE LAW, BUT YEAH, I, I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE IN, IN THAT REPORT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION.
IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE, I, I HAVEN'T TRACKED IT, I SUSPECT IN CERTAIN AREAS, LIKE THE LANGUAGE WE JUST, WE PUT IN ABOUT THE THING WITH THE FIRE DISTRICT, UH, NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO, TO THAT REPORT.
THE THING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE WRITTEN RESPONSE SHOULD, SHOULD PROBABLY BE ADDED TO THAT RESPONSE.
SO I WOULD JUST TRACK THAT REPORT AGAINST THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MADE.
WE APPROVE THE REPORT, UH, SUBJECT TO, TO THE FACT, RIGHT? SUBJECT TO THE FACT, TO IT BEING TRACKED AND BEING CONSISTENT WITH OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE SAME SUBJECT.
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SAME.I WAS, THIS HAS BEEN A MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN HANDLING FOR MANY MONTHS.
THERE HAS A LOT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO IT.
A LOT OF, UH, DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, BUT HEALTHY DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS THAT I THINK, UH, ALLOW US TO COME UP WITH A GOOD RECOMMENDATION TO POUND BOARD.
IT INDICATES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FULLY ON BOARD WITH THIS, UH, WITH THE BEST TECHNOLOGY, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE IN A, IN, IN A, IN A GOOD WAY THAT, THAT SUPPORTS THE NEEDS OF THE TOWN AND SIMULTANEOUSLY SUPPORTS THE GROWTH OF THIS NEEDED TECHNOLOGY.
SO I THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR INPUT, UH, AND, UH, AND THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IN SPITE OF OUR DIFFERENCES, WE STILL ABLE TO COME UP WITH, UH, WHAT I CONSIDER, WHICH WE ALL COULD CONSIDER TO BE A GOOD DOCUMENT THAT WE ALL COULD FEEL PROUD ABOUT.
THE NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THE REGENERON AND AARON HAS SUMMARIES FOR THOSE.
YEAH,
SO, UH, SO, UH, HERE AGAIN AS, UH, UH, UM, BEFORE, UH, UM, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, I MADE MY STATEMENT THAT, UH, IT WOULD NOTE WHAT, UH, UNQUESTIONABLY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE TOWN.
I TH AT LEAST FOR ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE PLANNING BOARD, THIS IS THE BIGGEST PROJECT THAT EVER CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, AT LEAST IN MY YEARS ON.
IT IS AN IMPORTANT ADDITION TO THE TOWN.
IT IS CONSISTENT, THE PROJECT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHIEF BENEF, UH, BENEFITS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, UH, ATTRACT, UH, REGENERON TO THE TOWN.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE PROJECT.
IT IS ALSO EQUALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE TOWN, UH, AND THE PLANNING BOARD DO ITS DUE DILIGENCE.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE SUPPORT THE PROJECT IN WHOLE, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, UH, AND, AND, AND TO GIVE FEEDBACK AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO THAT IN MIND I WELCOME, UH, UH, THE PRESENTATION BY, UM, REGENERON.
AND AS I INDICATED THAT THERE'S NO WAY POSSIBLE WE ARE GOING TO DO IT IN AN HOUR AND A HALF.
BUT I DID GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE, UH, THE, THE NEXT, UH, WORK SESSION FOR THE, FOR THE VERY NEXT SESSION, I THINK IS JUNE 16TH.
AND THE ONLY THING ON THAT WORK SCHEDULE IS ANOTHER PROJECT SIMILAR, SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THIS, AND THAT IS WITH THE HACKLEY SCHOOL.
WE GAVE A, LIKE A, A, A APPROVAL OF A MASTER PLAN, AND THEY CAME IN, AND THIS WILL BE THE THIRD TIME THAT MESS, UH, HACKLEY ISS COMING IN FOR AN EXPANSION.
SO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH REGENERON, WE APPROVE, GAVE A MASTER PLAN, AND THEN EACH TIME YOU COME IN FOR AN EX, UH, UM, UH, THE NEXT PHASE OF THAT, SO THE ENTIRE PLANNING BOARD MEETING ON THE 16TH, WE'LL BE DEVOTED TO JUST THOSE TWO PROJECTS.
SO WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT MOVING THE PROJECT ALONG.
SO, UH, AND, UH, AND I MAKE SURE WE, I ADJUSTED THE, UM, UH, THE AGENDA AND THE SCHEDULE TO REFLECT THAT.
AND AARON HAS ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT, YES.
SIMON, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WE DO HAVE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS GOING ON, ALTHOUGH THEY'LL SOMEWHAT BE DISCUSSED IN TANDEM WITH ONE ANOTHER THIS EVENING.
FIRST ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE CASE NUMBER TB 21 DASH ZERO SIX AND PB 21 DASH ZERO FOUR, WHICH IS FOR A PROJECT LOCATED AT 7 7 7 OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, UH, PO TERRYTOWN IN THE OB OFFICE
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BUILDING ZONING DISTRICT.SEPARATELY, WE HAVE CASE NUMBER TB 21 DASH 10 PB 21 DASH ZERO NINE FOR A PROJECT LOCATED AT 5 55 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, PO TERRY PO TERRYTOWN IN THE P E D PLANNED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, TURN IT OVER TO MR. WEINGARTEN AND THE TEAM.
BUT AGAIN, AND I THINK AS CHAIRPERSON SIMON MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR THE BOARD TO KIND OF GIVE, UH, A GLOBAL OVERVIEW OF BOTH PROJECTS AND THEN DIVE INTO EACH PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY.
AND, UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M A PARTNER IN THE LAW FIRM OF DELBELLO DANNEL AND WEINGARTEN WISE WHITAKER.
AND IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING REPRESENTING REGENERON INC.
IN CONNECTION WITH ITS REQUEST FOR TOWN BOARD AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL, WHICH IS BEFORE YOUR BOARD ON REFERRAL TOWN BOARD TREE REMOVAL, PERMIT APPROVAL, STEEP SLOPES AND WETLANDS WATERCOURSE PERMIT APPROVALS UNDER YOUR BOARD'S DIRECT JURISDICTION TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN APPROXIMATELY 207,000 SQUARE FOOT LABORATORY BUILDING LOCATED ON PARCEL D OF THE REGENERON CAMPUS, LOCATED AT 7 7 7 OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
ALSO ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS A RELATED APPLICATION FOR TEMPORARY PARKING AND STAGING DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.
AND AS DIRECTED, WE WILL ALSO GO THROUGH THAT DURING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
FINALLY, OUR PROPOSAL ALSO REQUIRES US TO APPLY TO THE Z B A TO CERTAIN AREA VARIANCES RELATING TO F A R AND REAR YARDS.
WE ARE GETTING THE FINAL INFORMATION ON THAT SHORTLY, AND WE WILL BE APPLYING FOR THAT IN SHORT ORDER.
AS YOU WERE ALL AWARE FROM OUR PAST APPEARANCES AND JUST SIMPLY FROM READING THE NEWSPAPERS, REGENERON IS A WORLDWIDE LEADING SCIENCE-BASED BIOPHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY, WHICH INVENTS DEVELOPS MANUFACTURERS AND COMMERCIALIZES LIFE TRANSFORMING MEDICINES FOR PEOPLE WITH SERIOUS ILLNESSES.
FOUNDED OVER 30 YEARS AGO AND LED BY WESTCHESTER RESIDENTS, RED REGENERON IS HEADQUARTERED IN GREENBURG AND HAS CONSISTENTLY TRANSLATED SCIENCE INTO MEDICINE, WHICH HAS LED TO EIGHT F D A APPROVED TREATMENTS AND PRODUCTS, ALL HOMEGROWN IN ITS OWN LABS.
REGENERON HAS BEEN IN THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT THROUGHOUT THE C OVID 19 PANDEMIC.
ITS MONOCLONAL ANTIBODY TREATMENT HAS BEEN A MAJOR WEAPON IN THE TREATMENT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONTRACTED THE VIRUS AND HAS PROVEN TO LESSEN THE SEVERITY OF THE ILLNESS, AS WELL AS TO SHORTEN ITS DURATION.
REGENERON IS SIMPLY AT THE CUTTING EDGE, AND WE ARE PROUD THAT THE COMPANY'S HEADQUARTERS ARE LOCATED HERE.
THE WESTCHESTER CAMPUS CURRENTLY EMPLOYS OVER 3000 PEOPLE AND IS POISED TO ADD MANY MORE.
REGENERON IS PROUD OF ITS COMMITMENTS TO ITS EMPLOYEES, AND HAS BEEN CITED BY SCIENCE MAGAZINE AS THE BEST BIOPHARMA EMPLOYER IN THE UNITED STATES.
DURING THIS PRESENTATION TODAY, YOU'LL HEAR FROM A FEW PEOPLE.
I'M JOINED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE BOARD THAT ARE HERE, THAT ARE ON A ZOOM WITH US TONIGHT, UH, IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT YOU WILL HEAR SPECIFICALLY FROM BEN SUZUKI AFTER ME, WHO IS REGENERON SENIOR DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE AND FACILITIES MANAGEMENT, ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
YOU'LL ALSO HEAR FROM STEVEN SPINA, WHO'S OUR PROJECT MANAGER FROM OUR ENGINEERING FIRM, J M C, AS WELL AS JAVIER GURAY, A PRINCIPAL AT VLAD ARCHITECTS, THE ARCHITECTS ON THIS PROJECT.
STEVE, WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS, UH, SLIDE DEPICTS THE GREENBERG PORTION OF THE REGENERON CAMPUS TO ORIENT YOU.
IF YOU LOOK TO THE TOP, YOU'LL SEE OLD, OLD SAW MILL RIVER ROAD.
THE SOUTH CAMPUS, UH, IS IN YELLOW.
IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THREE BUILDINGS CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 360,000 SQUARE FEET.
YOU'LL SEE IT NOTED THERE WITH A, B, AND C.
WE REFER TO THOSE AS THE AB B AND C BUILDINGS, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE PARCEL D, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS APPLICATION.
UH, AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT MORE IN A MOMENT.
IN GREEN AND IN PURPLE, YOU SEE LOOP ROAD, WHICH WE CAME BEFORE YOU, UH, SOME YEARS AGO.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED ACRES.
WE SUBDIVIDED IT INTO TWO LOTS, THE GREEN AND THE PURPLE.
A PREVIOUS PROPOSAL PROPOSAL FOR A MILLION SQUARE FEET IS LOCATED IN LOT ONE, THE GREEN LOT.
YOU CAN ALSO SEE UP IN THE BLUE, THE M S G FACILITY, WHICH YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
AND TO THE TOP OF THIS MAP, YOU SEE THE BRIDGE IN THE TOP CENTER OVER ON OLD SAW MILL ROAD, WHICH CROSSES THE ROAD, AS
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I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE KNOW AS YOU CROSS BY IT.AND IT CONNECTS US TO THE MOUNT PLEASANT PORTION OF THE CAMPUS.
UM, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, STEVE.
THIS IS THE OVERALL CAMPUS PHOTO.
YOU'LL, UH, SEE THE BRIDGE OUT OUT OF THE TOP.
IT CONNECTS US TO THE, UH, IT CONNECTS US TO THE MOUNT PLEASANT CAMPUS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AND THE ENTIRE ACREAGE IS 250 ACRES.
STEVE, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS MORE OF A, UH, ZOOMED IN SHOT OF PARCEL D AGAIN, THE SUBJECT OF THE APPLICATION, UH, IN 2014, B M R LANDMARK AT EASTVIEW REGENERON PERCE PREDECESSOR AND INTEREST, AND THE FORMER LANDLORD, UH, RECEIVED AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 128,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, LAB BUILDING, UH, OFFICE BUILDING PLUS PENTHOUSE.
IT'S FOUR STORIES, THREE LEVEL PARKING STRUCTURE WITH LANDSCAPING AND RELATED AMENITIES.
ON THIS PARCEL D TONIGHT, WE ARE ASKING YOU, AND WE SEEK TO AMEND THIS APPROVAL TO BUILD THE STRUCTURES HIGHLIGHTED IN LIGHT, BROWN AND GRAY ON THE AERIAL.
THIS IS A CLOSEUP VIEW OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS IN THE LIGHT BROWN, AND THE GRAY, WHICH IS THE PARKING GARAGE.
IN TOTAL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 207,000 ROUGHLY SQUARE FEET.
IT IS A TWO STORY R AND D BUILDING WITH A SEVEN LEVEL PARKING STRUCTURE, HOUSING 1,189 PARKING SPACES WITH AN ENCLOSED MECHANICAL PENTHOUSE COVERING 71% OF THE ROOF FOR ALL THE EQUIPMENT WE NEED.
WHILE, UH, IT, THIS BUILDING IS LARGER THAN THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BUILDING, IT WILL ACTUALLY HOUSE LESS EMPLOYEES THAN THE BUILDING INITIALLY APPROVED, AS IT IS AN R AND D BUILDING, AND IT WILL BE LESS IMPACTFUL FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT AND FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT FOR THOSE IMPACTS.
THE APPLICATION ALSO REQUESTS PERMISSIONS TO CONSTRUCT, YOU SAW IT IN THE LAST, UH, IN THE, IN THE LAST SLIDE, UH, AN ENCLOSED BRIDGE OF 11,610 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WILL ATTACH EXISTING BUILDINGS SIX TO THE PROPOSED FUTURE LOOP ROAD DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE'LL SHOW YOU MORE DETAIL OF THAT IN A MOMENT.
WE ARE SEEKING TOWN BOARD PERMISSION TO REMOVE 152 TREES OF WHICH 86 ARE REGULATED.
THE PROCE THE PROJECT ALSO REQUIRES A SMALL INCREASE, LESS THAN A QUARTER ACRE 0.2 ACRES IN WETLAND BUFFER INCURSION FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN.
SO AGAIN, AN ADDITION OF 0.2 ACRES.
IMPORTANTLY, THE PLAN COMPLETELY AVOIDS INCURSION INTO THE WETLANDS THEMSELVES.
UH, FINALLY, WE'RE ALSO, UH, HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ON A TEMPORARY PARKING, WHICH WILL GIVE YOU LOTS OF INFORMATION IN A BIT.
THESE TEMPORARY SPACES ARE PROPOSED TO OFFSET THOSE PARKING SPACES, WHICH ARE BEING DISPLACED BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT TO CREATE PARKING FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS TO CREATE A SMALL AMOUNT OF TEMPORARY PARKING IN THE CASE OF SPECIAL EVENTS OR EMPLOYEE GROWTH DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
SO AGAIN, THAT IS THE 35,000 FOOT LEVEL, UH, HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THIS.
AND NOW I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO BEN SUZUKI, THE DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE AND FACILITIES MANAGEMENT, WHO'LL TELL YOU A BIT MORE ABOUT REGENERON, EXPLAIN HOW ITS NEEDS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL, AND WHY THIS BUILDING AT PARCEL D FOR PRECLINICAL MANUFACTURING AND PROCESS DEVELOPMENT IS NEEDED BY REGENERON.
CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE DO.
I HAD SOME TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGES EARLIER, SO I'M GLAD EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME AND HOPEFULLY SEE ME.
UM, SO THIS, UH, STATEMENT HERE THAT YOU SEE WAS WRITTEN, UH, BY THE HEAD OF OUR, UH, PRECLINICAL MANUFACTURING AND, UH, PROCESS DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, IT, IT EXPRESSES, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF THIS PROJECT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF COVID AND THE MANY HEALTH NEEDS OF THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO RISE TO THE, THE, THE GROWTH AND, AND CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE, UH, IN THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY AND THE SCIENCE COMMUNITY.
SO THIS PROJECT ON A PRECLINICAL BASIS, UM, IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE IT'S THE PREDECESSOR OF THE ACTUAL MANUFACTURING THAT DOES HAPPEN, UH, UH, AT OUR MANUFACTURING SITE, UH, UH, JUST OUTSIDE OF ALBANY AND WESLEY EARTH.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, UH, EXPANSION TO OUR CURRENT FACILITY, UH, PROVIDES US WITH THE ABILITY TO INCREASE NOT ONLY THE AMOUNT OF THROUGHPUT, BUT THE SPEED OF WHICH TO CHANGE MODALITIES.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO US.
WE REALLY, TRULY APPRECIATE, UM, YOUR, YOUR, UM, REVIEW OF OUR APPLICATION, AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, A REALLY GOOD ENGAGEMENT AND, UH, AND PROJECT GOING
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FORWARD.THIS IS STEVE SPINA FROM J M C.
UH, AND WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED, UH, ON THIS, UH, CAMPUS AND ON THIS SPECIFIC, UH, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT SINCE, UH, 2014.
AND, UH, UM, WITH THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER, THE PROJECT, UH, SINCE, YOU KNOW, HAS UNDERWENT A VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE AND, AND POTENTIAL FUTURE GROWTH.
THEY'RE EXPECTING BASICALLY TO DETERMINE WHAT TYPE AND SIZE OF SPACE THAT ARE NEEDED.
SO TONIGHT, WE'LL JUST, UM, TRY AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO GO THROUGH THE ITEMS LISTED IN FRONT OF YOU.
THE, UH, BUILDING THE PARKING GARAGE.
THERE'S A BRIDGE PROPOSED TO THE FUTURE LOOP ROAD PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE TEMPORARY PARKING THAT, UH, HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
OKAY, SO THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES SOME OF THE FACTS THAT, UH, MARK HAD ALREADY, UH, MENTIONED.
THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME HIGHLIGHTS HERE.
UH, WE'RE PROPOSING A, A TWO STORY BUILDING HERE.
IT HAS A MECHANICAL PENTHOUSE ON TOP.
THERE ARE CONNECTIONS PROPOSED TO THE EXISTING ADJACENT BUILDINGS.
THERE'S ALSO, UH, A GREAT PLAZA AMENITY SPACE PROPOSED BETWEEN THE NEW BUILDING AND THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, AS WELL AS SOME SPORTS AND RECREATION AREA.
AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, THE FUTURE BRIDGE TO THE LOOP ROAD FUTURE PROJECT.
SO THERE'S, UH, THE, THE APPROVALS NEEDED ON THE RIGHT, UH, LISTED.
SO, UH, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR, UH, THIS DISCUSSION OF, UH, THE TECHNICAL ITEMS AND, AND WETLANDS WATERCOURSE STEEP SLOPES.
WE WILL NEED SOME VARIANCES FROM THE ZONING BOARD AS WELL.
UH, THIS IS A COMPARISON OF THE APPROVED DESIGN FROM 2014 VERSUS THE NEW DESIGN THAT HAS BEEN RECENTLY SUBMITTED TO YOU.
AS YOU CAN SEE, SIDE BY SIDE, THE APPROVED DESIGN WAS A FOUR STORY BUILDING WITH A PENTHOUSE ON TOP.
THE, THE NEW DESIGN IS A TWO STORY BUILDING WITH A PENTHOUSE ON TOP, UH, DUE TO THE CHANGES IN THE PROGRAM, UH, LAYOUT AND SPACE ALLOCATION NEEDS, UH, FOR THIS SPECIFIC USE OF A P M P D, UM, UH, PROCESS USE.
THERE'S ALSO, UM, STILL GOING TO BE THE CONNECTIONS TO THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS.
UM, THERE'S STILL A PARKING STRUCTURE.
THE NEW PARKING STRUCTURE PROPOSED IS, UH, SMALLER AND FOOTPRINT, BUT TALLER IN ORDER TO, UH, PROVIDE THE PARKING NEEDED.
UM, THE BUILDING HAS GROWN IN, IN SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, AGAIN, TO FACILITATE THE USE AND THE PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN, UH, ANALYZED AND, AND DETERMINED A NEED FOR.
THERE'S STILL WETLAND AND WETLAND BUFFER AND STEEP SLOPES DISTURBANCES.
THERE'S STILL F A R VARIANCE REQUIRED, BUT INSTEAD OF A HEIGHT VARIANCE, WE ARE ASKING FOR A SETBACK VARIANCE FOR THE REAR YARD DUE TO THE FUTURE BRIDGE.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S ALSO SOME AMENITIES PROPOSED.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UH, JUST FOR A BRIEF REFRESHER, THE APPROVED PROJECT FROM 2014.
UM, SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY REMEMBER THAT.
AND, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE FOUR STORY BUILDING, UH, QUITE DIFFERENTLY SHAPED AND ORIENTED, UH, BUT THE, THE OVERALL, UM, AREA OF DEVELOPMENT IS SIMILAR.
UM, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE CONNECTIONS TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS PROPOSED.
I'LL JUST QUICKLY MOVE TO THE PROPOSED.
SO THIS IS OUR PRO, PRO PROPOSED PLAN THAT, UH, HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
THE BUILDING HERE IS, UM, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO STORY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S GOT THE MECHANICAL PENTHOUSE ON TOP.
THERE'S CONNECTIONS ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE TO, UH, BUILDING SEVEN AND ONE ON THE, UH, ON THE, UH, SORT OF UPPER PORTION HERE TO BUILDING FOUR.
AND THERE'S A CONNECTION AS WELL TO THE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
THE, UH, PRIOR PROJECT, UH, THE GARAGE WAS NOT CONNECTED TO THE BUILDING.
AND, UM, ONE OF, ONE OF THE ACHIEVEMENTS WE LOOK FOR HERE IS TO REALLY HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS WHERE ALL THE BUILDINGS AND, AND EVEN THE PARKING GARAGE ARE ALL CONNECTED.
SO SOMEBODY CAN WALK EVERYWHERE THEY NEED TO, THEY NEED TO GO.
UM, SO THERE'S ALSO IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING AREAS PROPOSED TO PROVIDE ACCESS.
UM, THERE'S A, A LOADING AREA TO THE BUILDING HERE.
SO THE PRIMARY LOADING TO THE EXISTING BUILDING IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE, UH, TO THE EAST SIDE OF BUILDING FOUR.
AND THEN THERE'S, UH, NEW LOADING PROPOSED FOR THE P M P D BUILDING.
UH, VEHICLES WOULD PULL IN AND UTILIZE ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS THE SAME LOADING AREA, JUST AN EXPANDED VERSION OF IT.
THERE'S ALSO A, A PROPOSAL TO WIDEN THE, UH, EXISTING PERIMETER ROADWAY
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THAT TRAVERSES THE SITE.UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S FROM THE, FROM THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE AT OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD DOWN TO THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AREA.
AND, UH, THIS IS TO, UH, FACILITATE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES AS WELL AS, UH, THE NEED FOR PASSENGER VEHICLES TO TRAVEL POST-CONSTRUCTION.
SO THIS SORT OF, THIS SORT OF LOCATION IN THE SITE IS COMPLETELY FINISHED WHEN THE PROJECT IS DONE.
SO THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE LOOP ROAD PROJECT.
UH, THE PROJECT ALSO PROVIDES, AS I SAID, A RECREATIONAL AREA HERE, UH, NICE AMENITY SPACE BETWEEN THE NEW BUILDING AND THE EXISTING BUILDINGS.
UH, THIS IS CURRENTLY A PARKING AREA AND, AND DRIVE AISLES.
NOW, IT'LL BE A NICE SPACE WHERE, UM, EMPLOYEES AND VISITORS CAN SIT OUTSIDE, HAVE LUNCH, HOLD MEETINGS, AND JUST ENJOY OUTDOOR SPACE.
UM, SO IT'S A, THERE'S SOME NICE RENDERINGS COMING UP TO SHOW YOU THAT WE, BUT WE THINK IT'S A GREAT AMENITY TO THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS SOME PROPOSED, UH, RECREATIONAL FIELDS AND COURTS, UH, NORTH OF THE PARKING GARAGE.
AS MARK SAID THERE, UH, THERE IS SOME DISTURBANCE TO THE WETLAND BUFFERS.
UM, THE WETLAND BUFFERS ARE IN BLUE HERE.
THE WETLANDS THEMSELVES ARE IN RED, SO YOU COULD SEE THAT WE'VE RESPECTED THE WETLANDS THEMSELVES, BUT THE BUFFERS DO HAVE SOME DISTURBANCE VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT.
AND WE'RE, UM, THE DISTURBANCE IS ACTUALLY FARTHER AWAY FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT, UM, ALTHOUGH IT IS SLIGHTLY INCREASED.
AND THE LAST POINT I'LL MAKE IS, IS REGARDING THE BRIDGE, UM, AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.
SO THIS IS SHOWN AS PART OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S ON THE LOT.
THIS GREEN LOT LINE RUNS ALONG THE, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS HERE.
UH, THIS BRIDGE IS PART OF THIS APPROVAL BECAUSE IT WOULD BE PART OF THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, AND, UH, IT'S PART OF THIS LOT.
SO WE'VE SUBMITTED THE BRIDGE, AND ALL OF THESE ZONING INFORMATION PROVIDED FOR IT ARE RELATIVE TO THE BRIDGE UP TO THIS POINT WHERE IT MEETS THE PROPERTY LINE.
THE REMAINDER OF THE BRIDGE WILL BE A SEPARATE APPLICATION AS PART OF THE LOOP ROAD HOLDINGS PROPERTY TO CONTINUE IT OVER TO THAT.
AND WITH THAT, I'D, I'D LIKE TO HAND OFF THE, UH, THE NEXT, UH, SLIDE TO JAVIER GRAY FROM FLAT ARCHITECTS.
UH, THANKS, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND THANKS TO REGENERON FOR ALLOWING US TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROJECT.
UH, THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE PRECLINICAL MANUFACTURING BUILDING THAT BEN, UH, WAS DESCRIBING, UH, AS TO ITS IMPORTANCE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE IMAGE IS A, A MODERN AND TRANSPARENT IMAGE THAT, THAT REFLECTS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE INVESTMENT THAT REGENERON IS PROPOSING TO MAKE HERE.
AND THE DESIGN IS, IS FOCUSED ON BRINGING SCIENTISTS TOGETHER TO COLLABORATE, TO CREATE LIFESAVING MEDICINES.
SO, UH, YOU SEE ON THE LEFT THE MAIN ENTRY, UH, TWO STORY, UH, COLLABORATION SPACE BEHIND WHICH YOU WILL SEE ALL THE SCIENCE ON DISPLAY OF, UH, WHAT REGENERON IS, IS PROPOSING TO PLACE IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL.
YOU CAN SEE THE TERRACES THAT STEVE SPINA WAS DESCRIBING, OUTDOOR AND INDOOR STAIRWAYS TO CREATE MORE COMMUNICATION PATHWAYS IN BETWEEN ALL OF THE SCIENTISTS AND A VERY OPEN, UH, COURTYARD SPACE BETWEEN TO THE RIGHT IS BUILDING SEVEN, AND TO THE LEFT IS THE NEW PROPOSED BUILDING THAT, UM, WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU HERE TODAY.
UH, THE IMAGE ON THE UPPER RIGHT DESCRIBES, UH, VIEWED SOUTH STRAIGHT SOUTH OF THE PEDESTRIAN PLAZA WITH ALL THE AMENITIES THAT IT WILL BRING, UH, TO, UM, TO THE SITE AS WELL.
AND THE AERIAL VIEW AT THE BOTTOM PART OF THE PAGE, UH, IS LOOKING, UH, DOWN, UH, INTO, UH, LOOKING NORTHWEST INTO THE SITE.
YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING L-SHAPED, TWO LHAS COMING TOGETHER.
YOU CAN SEE BUILDING SEVEN FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, BUILDING FOUR, AND THEN THE PARKING RAMP, UM, BEHIND THE BUILDING.
AND, AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE SPACE OF THE, UH, THE LOADING AREA THAT STEVE WAS DESCRIBING AS WELL.
UM, IT IS A TWO STORY BUILDING.
UH, THE FUNCTIONAL PARTS OF THE BUILDING IS TWO STORY PLUS A PENTHOUSE.
UH, LEVEL ONE IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT, IT'S A COMBINATION OF LABORATORIES, RESEARCH SPACE IN OFFICES, UH, ALL OF WHICH GET, UH, TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF NATURAL LIGHT.
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IS DESIGNED TO BE VERY EFFICIENT FOR SIGNS, BUT ALSO VERY COGNIZANT OF THE NEED FOR NATURAL LIGHT FOR ALL THE INHABITANTS.AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM LEFT PART OF THE PLAN, THE, THE STAIR.
AND ON THE LEVEL TWO, UH, IF YOU GO TO THE, IF YOU CAN POINT TO THE, UH, ATRIUM OR THE TWO STORY SPACE RIGHT THERE, THAT IS THE CENTER OR THE KNUCKLE OF THE BUILDING WHERE SCIENTISTS WILL COME TO COLLABORATE AS WELL.
ON THE UPPER LEFT, UH, PART OF THIS, UH, PLAN IS THE CONNECTION TO THE PARKING LOT, AND ON THE LOWER RIGHT IS THE CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING BUILDING SEVEN AS WELL.
UH, NEXT, UH, A FEW ELEVATIONS THAT DESCRIBE, UH, MORE GRAPHICALLY OR MORE GRAPHICALLY THE INTENT OF THE, OF THE RENDERINGS.
YOU SAW IT, IT IS A TWO STORY BUILDING PLUS THE MECHANICAL PENTHOUSE AS WELL ON TOP OF IT, THE LOWER TWO FLOORS ARE THE INHABITED FLOORS WITH ALL THE TRANSPARENCY AND NATURAL LIGHT THAT YOU CAN GET INTO THE BUILDING FOR THE INHABITANTS AS WELL.
AND SOME OF THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE TERRACES AND THE CONNECTION TO THE BRIDGE, UH, TO BUILDING SEVEN.
EAST ELEVATION, A SIMPLER ELEVATION, BUT ALL, ALL ALSO FOCUSED ON NATURAL LIGHT.
AND THE EAST ELEVATION, UH, CONTINUED AS WELL, UH, WITH SOME OF THE SAME ELEMENTS THAT YOU SAW IN THE RENDERINGS, UM, THAT WE JUST PRESENTED A FEW SLIDES OVER.
AND ALSO THE, THE PARKING GARAGE THAT MARK MENTIONED.
THE TYPICAL FLOOR PLATE IS AROUND 176 CARS AS WELL.
AND IF WE GO TO THE ELEVATIONS, YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU CAN SEE HOW WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING AND PLANNING THAT, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
WE ALSO ADD, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR, UM, SOLAR PANELS.
REGENERON IS TREMENDOUSLY COMMITTED TO SUSTAINABILITY AND RESPECT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND SO AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY THEY CAN, THEY DO INVEST IN MAKING SURE THEIR BUILDINGS ARE SUSTAINABLE.
UM, AND THEN WE ARE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE STEVE SPINA, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE CAMPUS AND IN GREENBURG, UH, FOR A FEW YEARS, SINCE 2014.
SO WE KNOW THE SITE WELL, AND WE'RE COGNIZANT OF MAKING SURE THAT, THAT THE IMPACT OF ANY OF THESE BUILDINGS AND THE VIEWS ARE, UM, ARE ACTUALLY A POSITIVE FOR THE TOWN.
SO WHEN WE PROPOSE A PARKING STORY SUCH AS, UH, PARKING DECKS SUCH AS THIS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT IS VISIBLE AND HOW IT'S VISIBLE FROM, UH, SUN RIVER ROAD, WHICH IS THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE.
AND SO WE'VE ENSURED THROUGH VIEWS AND EXISTING PHOTOGRAPHS TO THE RIGHT OF, OF VIEWING AS YOU ARE GOING ON SUMMER RIVER ROAD TO THE WEST, ENSURING THAT MOST OF THE TREES GET PROTECTED AND THAT THE VIEWS ARE, ARE NOT OF A PARKING RAMP, BUT ALSO, BUT THEY'RE FOCUSED ON THE ENTRY TO, UM, TO REGENERON AS MUCH AS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THE NEXT SLIDE WOULD BE GREAT.
WE'RE GONNA START TALKING ABOUT THAT LOOP ROAD BRIDGE AS WE KNOW IT, IT IS, UH, MOST, UH, OR HALF OF IT IS ON THE, UH, PARCEL D SITE, WHICH IS WHY IT'S PART OF THIS, UH, SUBMITTAL AS WELL.
AND IT'LL CONNECT TO THE FUTURE LOOP ROAD CAMPUS THAT'S ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, UH, WHERE IT SAYS BUILDINGS 21, 22, AND 23 AS WELL.
AND YOU CAN SEE PARCEL D, THE P M P D BUILDING WE JUST DESCRIBED TO THE RIGHT AND THE PARKING GARAGE TO THE UPPER RIGHT.
THE NEXT SLIDE, SIMILAR TO REF, SIMILAR TO, TO THE ARCHITECTURE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE P M P D BUILDING.
UH, THIS BRIDGE IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND CONNECTIONS WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR A COLLABORATION HUB RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BRIDGE THAT'LL BRING SCIENTISTS FROM THE SOUTH CAMPUS TO THE LOOP ROAD BRIDGE.
IT'LL BRING THEM TOGETHER AS WELL.
IT'LL CREATE AN ICONIC ENTRANCE TO, TO THE CAMPUS, UH, OF THE LOOP ROAD CAMPUS AS WELL, THE EAST VIEW, UH, IN THE DAYTIME AS WELL.
AND AS WE KNOW, UH, WELL, WE KNOW WELL THAT SCIENTISTS
SO NIGHT VIEWS ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER, UH, AS WE LOOK AT, UM, AT DEVELOPING, UM, THE BUILDINGS.
UH, THIS A PLANNED VIEW, WHICH YOU CAN SEE TO THE LEFT IS BUILDING SEVEN TO THE RIGHT IS, UM, THE LOOP ROAD PROPERTY.
AND THEN YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHICH PART OF THE BRIDGE FALLS ON THE PARCEL D SITE AND WHICH PART FALLS ON THE LOOP ROAD, UM, PROPERTY SITE, AND HOW WE ARE USING A CHANGE IN ELEVATIONS TO CREATE A COLLABORATIVE HUB THAT, UH, MAY INCLUDE, UH,
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SOME FOOD SERVICE, SOME GRAB AND GO, AND A REASON FOR PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER AS WELL.YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGE IN ELEVATIONS BETWEEN THE TWO CAMPUSES IN THIS SLIDE.
AND, UM, NEXT SLIDE AS WELL, FROM THE OTHER SIDE, UH, THE SAME TYPES OF VIEWS.
UH, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT BACK TO STEVE SPINA TO DESCRIBE THE TEMPORARY PARKING.
SO, AS YOU AS DESCRIBED ABOVE, THIS IS A, A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
IT'S INNOVATIVE AND IT WILL TAKE A LOT, UH, A GREAT DEAL OF CAREFUL PLANNING.
AND, UH, AS SUCH, THE CONSTRUCTION WILL RESULT IN THE DISPLACEMENT OF ABOUT 500 EXISTING PARKING SPACES, AS MARK DESCRIBED EARLIER.
SO THIS PLAN IS A LOT GOING ON HERE, BUT IT SHOWS THE ENTIRE CAMPUS PLAN.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN SOME KIND OF SHADED BLUE AREAS HERE, THESE ARE AREAS OF EXISTING PARKING THAT WILL NEED TO BE REMOVED AND DISPLACED TO BUILD THE PARCEL D PROJECT, UH, AS WELL AS THE BRIDGE.
SO WE'VE DONE A, AN EXTENSIVE STUDY TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF THE EXISTING PARKING, UH, PLUS THE ADDITION OF CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, WHICH TOTALS, UH, ABOUT A 1700 EXISTING ADDITIONAL SPACES NEEDED DURING CONSTRUCTION.
SO THIS PLAN SHOWS SEVERAL PROPOSED TEMPORARY PARKING LOTS IN RED, SCATTERED THROUGHOUT BOTH THE SOUTH CAMPUS IN GREENBURG AND THE NORTH CAMPUS IN MOUNT PLEASANT, ESSENTIALLY WHEREVER WE COULD PUT THEM.
UM, AND, UH, WE, WE NEED THOSE, WE NEED THOSE PARKING SPACES THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS IN ORDER TO OFFSET THIS DEFICIT, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, CONSTRUCTION DURING, UH, CONSTRUCTION WORKERS DURING THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND THE FIRST, THE FIRST OF THOSE LOTS WE'RE PROPOSING IS WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IN YOUR APPLICATION PACKAGES.
THESE TWO AREAS RIGHT DOWN HERE, UH, JUST, UH, PAGE SOUTH OF THE, UH, PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE.
SO AS SHOWN HERE IN SORT OF THE LIGHT TAN COLOR, UH, THIS IS JUST THE PARKING AREA, ABOUT 250 PARKING SPACES HERE.
IT COMES, UH, OFF OF THE EXISTING PERIMETER ROADWAY SERVING THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
AND THEN THERE'S A TEMPORARY TRAILER COMPLEX FOR ALL THE CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS.
UM, SOME, SO IT'LL BE, IT'LL, THERE'LL BE A FENCE SURROUNDING IT.
UM, AND AS, AS WE, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S A SEPARATE APPLICATION BECAUSE IT IS LOCATED ON A SEPARATE LOT IN A SEPARATE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO, UH, A PORTION OF THE PROPOSED PARKING AREA HERE IS, IS PROPOSED OVER SOME STEEP SLOPES, WHICH HAS TRIGGERED THE NEED FOR STEEP SLOPES PERMIT FROM THE BOARD.
SO, UM, WE'VE SUBMITTED A COMPLETE APPLICATION PACKAGE, UH, DESIGNING THIS PARKING LOT AND TRAILER, UH, UH, STAGING AND COMPLEX AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE WOULD DESIGN ANY PARKING LOT AND, AND, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PAVED SURFACE, IMPROVED SURFACE, UM, THERE'LL BE DRAINAGE, THERE'LL BE LIGHTING, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE, UH, IT'LL, AND IT'LL BE FULLY RESTORED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PRE-EXISTING WITH NEW, WITH NEW LANDSCAPING AND SHRUBBERY WHEN IT'S FINISHED.
SO THAT, THAT IS, UM, ESSENTIALLY THIS PROJECT AND IT, IT'S A, IT'S A SEPARATE PROJECT, BUT IT'S REALLY PART OF THE PARCEL D PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, PRIMARY USE IS FOR THAT PROJECT, UM, RIGHT NOW.
SO, AND, AND, AND JUST A QUICK POINT HERE WHERE, UM, THERE'S NO DISTURBANCE TO ANY WETLANDS OR WETLANDS BUFFERS OTHER THAN SOME TEMPORARY GRADING, UM, TO BRING THIS UP TO THE CORRECT ELEVATION.
SO, UM, NO, NO IMPERVIOUS AREAS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, UH, PROPOSED WITHIN ANY CRITICAL AREAS.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SO SINCE THE PARKING AND TRAILER COMPLEX IS INTEGRAL PARCEL D TOWN STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE PRESENT THEM TOGETHER, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
AND, UM, I'LL HAND IT BACK OVER TO MARK FOR, UH, FINAL REMARKS.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ON THIS PROJECT THAT, UH, WE, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH WITH YOU.
WE TRIED TO KEEP THE PRESENTATION UNDER A HALF HOUR, I THINK WE SUCCEEDED, UH, BUT OF COURSE, WE'RE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ANY OF THE PARTICULAR ISSUES IN MUCH MORE DEPTH WITH YOU AND CAN REFER TO ANY OF THE SLIDES OR ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE, AND WE CAN PUT THOSE UP ON THE SCREEN.
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IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU AS TO HOW YOU WOULD, LIKE, WE HAVE OUR TEAM HERE.UH, I WILL MENTION THAT OUR WETLANDS EXPERT IS NOT WITH US TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL BE AT THE NEXT, WE EXPECT TO HAVE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO ON THOSE SPECIFIC ISSUES, WE MAY WANNA WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVE OUR ENTIRE TEAM HERE.
UM, UH, AS I INDICATED BEFORE, NOW THAT WE HAVE AN OVERVIEW, THEN I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO START GOING INTO IN DEPTH OF THE, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, UH, OF THE R AND D BUILDING.
OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO, THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, UH, THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, UH, AT, UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
WE HAVE TO GET COMMENTS FROM THE C A C.
SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT, UH, WE NEED TO DO.
UH, BUT TONIGHT WE COULD, I, I WOULD OPEN UP, UH, I I THINK IF YOU FIRST OF ALL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS OF PLAN BOARD MEMBERS AND THEN START TO REALLY GO INTO THE PARTICULARS MORE DETAIL OF THE R AND D FACILITY, UH, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UH, TWO THINGS THAT COME TO MIND THOUGH, UH, UM, ONE IS THAT YOU SAID YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE F FA, GO TO THE Z B A FOR F A R.
NOW, I RECALL THAT WHEN IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE, WE DESIGNATED, UH, UH, R AND D UH, NORTH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS BUILT INTO THAT IS A F A R DENSITY, UH, BOOST.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IN YOUR DESIGN, DO YOU TAKE, DID YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT? YES.
OR YOU PUT THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND YOU STILL NEED ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS? WE, WE, WE DID.
I, STEVEN, DO YOU HAVE THE, UH, THE RATIOS? THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT LARGE, THEY'RE NOT LARGE CHANGES TO WHERE, AND THERE, THERE WAS AN F A R VARIANCE THAT WAS A PART OF THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL AS WELL ON THE, ON THE AREA THAT IT HAD THE, THE, THE 2014 APPROVAL.
STEVEN, DO YOU HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE TONIGHT? OKAY, WELL, MY POINT WAS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE TOOK ADVANTAGE YES.
AND, AND WE, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH GARRETT AND AARON AND, AND THE ENTIRE STAFF GOING THROUGH THESE PARTICULARS, MAKING SURE THAT WE GOT THESE NUMBERS CORRECT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CALCULATING AND WHY WE HAVEN'T YET SUBMITTED TO THE Z B A, I THINK THAT'S BEING FINALIZED, BUT, UH, I HAVE SEEN NUMBERS ON THAT.
I JUST DON'T HAVE THEM WITH ME.
THE, BUT WE, BUT WE ARE AWARE OF THAT, UH, OF THAT BONUS.
THE OTHER POINT IS THAT A, A RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, FACILITY OR, OR THE CHEMICAL INDUSTRY, WE CALL THAT PILOT PLANT, IS, IS ACTUALLY SMALL SCALE MANUFACTURED.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IN, UH, THE COMPREHENSION PLAN THAT IS PERMITTED AS AN ANCILLARY FUNCTION OF R AND D.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT ALSO HAD BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND THERE'S NO ISSUE AT ALL ABOUT THAT SMALL MANUFACTURING FACILITY.
AGAIN, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WITHIN THE DE IS OUR BELIEF.
IT'S WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF THE USE THAT'S PROVIDED WITHIN THIS, WITHIN THIS ZONE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
I BELIEVE THAT THE NOT BELIEVE I, I AM TOLD THAT THE GREENBURG STAFF AGREES WITH, UH, AGREES WITH US ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE WE COVERING ALL THE NO, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, UH, THE OTHER POINT IS THAT YOU HAVE, UH, UM, PLANNING A, UH, GARAGE AND AS YOU INDICATED, YOU'RE VERY MUCH, UH, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, GREEN ENERGY.
SO MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU PLAN TO PUT IN ANY CHARGING STATIONS IN THE GARAGE? WHO WANTS TO TAKE THAT? JAVIER OR STEVEN? YES.
THOSE ARE THE, MY, YOU KNOW, TOP OF LINE QUESTIONS.
AND DO ANYONE ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE THEY START GOING INTO REALLY DIGGING INTO THE PARTICULARS OF THE APPLICATION? MONA? YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF ANY, UM, PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE LEAD CERTIFIED, RIGHT? NOW WE ARE CONSIDERING ALL, ALL TYPES OF CERTIFICATIONS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE FINAL DETERMINATION AS TO WHICH, IF ANY, WILL BE, WILL BE PURSUING, UH,
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THE CODE FOR, UH, LEADS YOU TO BE ALMOST SILVER LEAD JUST BY THE NATURE OF THE CODE.AND SO IT REALLY BECOMES AN ADMINISTRATIVE.
I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING, UH, SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED.
YOUR PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE TWO, YOU KNOW, SQUARE RECTANGULAR AREAS THAT YOU POINTED OUT, BUT YOU ALSO INDICATED A NUMBER OF OTHER PLACES YOU'RE GONNA NEED PARKING, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY PARKING WHILE THINGS BEING CONSTRUCTED AT, AT WHAT POINT ARE YOU GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ADD THAT TO, TO WHAT'S
THAT WAS FOR THE TRAILER SITE AND FOR THE PARKING, ACTUALLY BEFORE YOUR BOARD RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE TWO LOTS, ROUGHLY 500 SPACES IN TOTAL, WHICH ARE BEFORE YOU BECAUSE OF A STEEP SLOPES ISSUE WITH THOSE TWO PARTICULAR PARKING LOTS.
BECAUSE OF OUR PRIOR APPROVALS AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE, WE BELIEVE THAT THE REST OF THE TEMPORARY PARKING MAY VERY WELL BE DONE BY AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE HAD APPROVED PREVIOUSLY FOR LAND BANK PARKING AND OTHER THINGS THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DETERMINED BY YOUR PROFESSIONALS.
AND BY THE NEXT TIME WE COME, I'M SURE IT'LL BE DETERMINED.
SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW.
BUT, BUT YOU MAY NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO APPROVE THOSE, THOSE MAY BE ADMINISTRATIVE, THE BALANCE, BUT THE 500 SPACES THAT WE SHOWED YOU THAT ARE, HAVE THE STEEP SLOPES ATTACHED 'EM ARE ABSOLUTELY WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION.
AND WE SHOWED YOU THE OTHER TWO, THE TRAILER AND THE OTHER PARKING LOT.
'CAUSE WE WANTED YOU TO SEE WHAT WE WERE INCLUDING AT THE TOWN SUGGESTION AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION, WHICH IS NOT PHYSICALLY ON THE PARCEL D UH, SITE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
OH, WAS THERE, THERE'S ONE OTHER THING.
DON'T WE HAVE TO, UH, TAKE A VOTE ON, UH, UH, UH, THAT WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE TOWN BOARD BE THE LATE THE LEAD AGENT.
DON'T WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT? YEAH, YEAH.
SO, CHAIRPERSON SIMON, UH, A COUPLE THINGS PROCEDURALLY, UH, YOU CERTAINLY AND ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ON BOTH PROJECTS, UH, THE TOWN BOARD HAS DECLARED ITS INTENT TO SERVE AS LEAD AGENCY.
SO, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD DISCUSS THAT, AND IF THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS, UH, YOU'D HAVE A VOTE ON THAT AND THEN WE WOULD PROVIDE YOU WITH THE FORM TO SIGN OFF SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD.
I DID ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT, UM, WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC REVIEW, UH, WE DO HAVE JOHN CANNING ON THIS EVENING.
UH, MR. CANNINGS BEEN PROVIDED SET OF THE DRAWINGS AND HAS PREPARED AN INITIAL REPORT.
UH, IF THE APPLICANT WHO WE'VE PROVIDED A COPY OF THAT REPORT TO HAS ANY COMMENTS ON THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS IT THIS EVENING AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
LET'S FIRST TAKE A VOTE ON, UH, THE LEAD AGENCY AND, AND, AND, AND LET JOHN CANNON GIVE HIS PRESENTATION.
THEREFORE, WE WILL HAVE GOOD BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON BOTH PROJECTS AND THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AND BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO ASK AND FORM QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
SO FIRST, UH, UM, UH, I LIKE TO MAKE, I'M TRYING TO FIND THE NUMBERS.
UH, COULD YOU, I'M TRYING TO FIND A PIECE OF PAPER TO GIVE THE, UH, THAT OH, NO PROBLEM.
COULD YOU JUST POINT THAT OUT? COULD YOU JUST, UH, ABSOLUTELY.
THE FIRST PROJECT WOULD BE TB 21 DASH ZERO SIX, UH, 7 7 7 OLD SAW MOWER RIVER ROAD, THAT'S BEEN REFERRED TO AS THE PARCEL D SITE.
AND, UH, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE TOWN BOARD, ASSUMING LEAD AGENCY STATUS FOR PURPOSES OF
UH, THE NEXT IS TB 21 DASH 10.
UH, THAT'S AT 5 5 5 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, AND THAT IS THE SITE WHERE THEY INTEND TO PUT THE, UM, TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION STAGING AND PARKING AREA THAT'S IN THE P E D DISTRICT.
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ME.AND SO, UH, THE DOCUMENT I HAVE TO COME OVER TO TOWN HALL AND SIGN THE DOCUMENT.
SO THE, IF YOU WANT TO COME TO DOWN HALL, THAT'D BE GREAT, BUT YEAH, WE'LL TALK OFFLINE.
SO, UH, SO WITH THAT, SO THE TOWN BOARD IS THE LEAD AGENCY FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, SO JOHN, CAN YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC? SO, LIKE I SAID, SO, SO THE BOARD WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF, OF THE PROJECT AND WHATEVER TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT, UH, UH, CERTAINLY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, GOOD EVENING.
UH, IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE CONDUCTED A FAIRLY THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC HISTORY FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE WENT BACK TO THE 2014 TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED FOR THE ORIGINAL PARCEL D BUILDING, WHICH WAS, I BELIEVE 128,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, AT THAT TIME IT WAS CONTEMPLATED THAT IT COULD BE EITHER AN OFFICE BUILDING OR AN OFFICE IN RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT BUILDING.
UH, THAT STUDY WAS PRETTY EXTENSIVE.
UH, IT LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS.
IT INCLUDED TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY THE LOOP ROAD HOLDINGS PROJECT, WHICH WAS IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT AT THAT TIME.
WE THEN JUMPED FORWARD A LITTLE BIT TO LOOK AT THE, UH, REVISED LOOP ROAD HOLD PROJECT, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH WAS CONDUCTED IN 2016 TO SEE, UH, WHAT THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC WAS AND WHAT THE, UH, PROPOSED VICINITY DEVELOPMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS WERE.
SO WE NOTED THAT THE LOOP ROAD HOLDINGS STUDY DID INCLUDE, UH, THE PARCEL D PROJECT AND IT IDENTIFIED IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT WERE SORT OF, UM, THEY COMPLIMENTED THE PARCEL D IMPROVEMENTS.
WE LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES IN 2016, AND THEY WERE CONSISTENT WITH AND LOWER THAN WHAT HAD BEEN PROJECTED IN 2014.
SO THAT ALL PANNED OUT PRETTY WELL.
I'M GOING TO PAGE TWO OF MY REPORT.
UM, SO SINCE 2016, WE LOOKED AT TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT D O T HAS ON SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, UH, JUST BY THE, THE, THE RIVER THERE.
AND THEY ARE STILL, UM, WELL WITHIN PROJECTIONS FROM THE PREVIOUS STUDIES.
SO THAT, UH, IS PRETTY CONSISTENT.
WE LOOKED AT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY THIS NEW BUILDING, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 210,000 SQUARE FEET IF IT IS REDU, IF IT IS USED PRIMARILY FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES AS OPPOSED TO OFFICE PURPOSES.
AND IN CONDUCTING THAT REVIEW, WE DETERMINED THAT IT WOULD GENERATE SLIGHTLY LESS TRAFFIC THAN WAS PREVIOUSLY CONTEMPLATED.
SO AGAIN, THIS ALL FALLS INTO LINE WITH WHAT THE MASTER PLAN IS FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, ORIGINALLY IT WAS PROPOSED AS MITIGATION.
I PRESUME THAT IT IS STILL PROPOSED, UH, THAT, UH, THERE WOULD BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL INSTALLED AT THE EASTERN DRIVEWAY DRIVEWAY D AND THAT THERE WOULD BE A NORTHBOUND OR RIGHT TURN LANE ADDED AT THAT LOCATION.
I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND AND CIVIL ENGINEER JUST COORDINATE WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR LOOP ROAD HOLDINGS FOR THIS APPLICATION AND FOR, UM, REGENERON ON THE MOUNT PLEASANT SIDE, UH, ARE STILL ALL IN ALIGNMENT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, SOMEBODY'S NOT PROPOSING TO DO IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE DONE BY SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEN ANOTHER IMPROVEMENT DOESN'T FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY MUCH IN PLACE.
BUT I WOULD ASK THAT THEY DO THAT.
UM, WE LOOKED AT THE SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT AND I HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNE TIME FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER.
UM, THE PLANS THAT WERE CON SUBMITTED SHOWED, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL OR THE PROSPECTIVE CONSTRUCTION OF LOOP ROAD HOLDINGS, 1 MILLION RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT FACILITY, UM, DRIVEWAYS ON THE LOOP ROAD.
AND, UM, I, I KNOW THAT'S COMING, BUT IT'S NOT COMING NOW.
SO THAT'S AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
UH, THE PLANS SHOULD BE REVISED TO DEMONSTRATE HOW, UH, THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO LOOP ROAD WOULD CONNECT INTO THE EXISTING LOOP ROAD.
AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD SHOULD WOULD WISH TO DIS DISCUSS IS THAT IT'S PROPOSED TO CONSTRUCT LOOP ROAD ALL THE WAY AROUND FROM WHERE IT CONNECTS WITH SELMA RIVER ROAD ON THE EAST END, ON THE WEST END AS BASICALLY A FIVE LANE BOULEVARD, TWO THROUGH LANES PER DIRECTION WITH, UH, LEFT TURN LANES AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.
WHILE THIS HAS, UH, I AM SURE AN ABUNDANT CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE PROJECTED TRAFFIC VOLUMES, IT MAY ACTUALLY HAVE MORE CAPACITY THAN THEY NEED IN THE SHORT TERM AND MAYBE EVEN IN THE LONG
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TERM.SO THIS WOULD BE A GOOD, UH, PERIOD OR POINT IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO JUST RECONFIRM THAT THEY WANT IT TO BE A FIVE LANE SECTION, OR MAYBE THEY WANT TO CONSTRUCT IT AS A THREE LANE SECTION WITH BIKE LANES AND, AND TEMPORARY PARKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE APPLICANT RECONFIRM THAT THEY, THEY INTEND OR BELIEVE THEY NEED TO CONSTRUCT THE FIVE LANE SECTION, OR IF NOT, TO MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW THEY MIGHT MODIFY IT.
UH, I WILL NOTE THAT, UH, THIS EVENING WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I SAW THE PLANS FOR, UH, THE TEMPORARY PARKING, UH, UH, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS' QUESTIONS WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT WHERE IS ALL THAT OTHER PARKING AND WHY IS IT NEEDED? I HAVE TWO THOUGHTS ON THAT.
I WOULD ASK THAT THE APPLICANT THAT INDICATE WHY THEY CANNOT BUILD THE PARKING GARAGE FIRST AND THEN USE THAT AND NOT BUILD AS MUCH OF THE TEMPORARY PARKING.
I'M SURE THEY MAY HAVE A REASON FOR THAT, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY PROVIDE IT TO THE BOARD.
UH, AND ALSO IF THEY DO PLAN TO HAVE ALL OF THIS TEMPORARY PARKING THAT THEY INDICATE HOW, UH, THE PEOPLE WHO PARK THERE WILL BE ABLE TO GET BACK AND FORTH TO THE REGENERON BUILDING ON FOOT OR WITH A SHUTTLE OR WHATEVER BECAUSE IT'S FROM SOME OF THE LOCATIONS, IT'S A PRETTY LONG WALK.
AND THEY'LL ALSO BE PASSING THE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
SO THESE ARE DETAILS, BUT, UM, I WANT TO, UM, I WANTED TO GET THEM OUT THERE EARLY SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM RESOLVED QUICKLY AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD HOLD THIS PROJECT UP.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THERE WAS, UH, THOSE VERY GOOD, UH, POINTS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, UH, UM, ABOUT THAT, UH, FIVE AT LEAST I THOUGHT ABOUT THE FIVE LANE ROAD, WHETHER OR NOT YOU NEED A FIVE LANE OR WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING COULD, UH, BE SUBSTITUTED WITH A, A BIKE PATH.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY YEAH, I AGREE.
THEY SHOULD AT LEAST REVIEW THAT AND SEE.
AND THE OTHER ISSUE IS, IS WHAT ARE THE PROHIBIT, WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES OF BUILDING THE PARKING GARAGE FIRST, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A VERY LOGICAL REASON NOT TO DO THAT, BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY.
UM, IF, UH, AND, AND I WILL ENCOURAGE, UH, UM, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THE MR. CANNON'S, UH, REPORT.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE YOU COULD, THEY COULD BE SURFACED AT THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING, PLEASE.
UM, MAYBE AT THIS POINT, UH, UH, MR. WINEGAR, AND YOU COULD INDICATE TO US, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE, THE BEST AREA TO GO INTO DETAIL? SURE.
WE HAVE LIKE, UH, STORM WATER, UH, PREVENTION AND, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING.
WHAT JUST MR. CHAIRMAN, LEMME ME JUST MENTION YOUR COUNSEL SEEMS TO BE RAISING HIS HAND.
I THINK HE WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
WALTER, YOU, YOU, YOU MAY REGRET RECOGNIZING ME, MR.
NOW, UM, TWO THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT POP INTO MIND JUST IN LOOKING AT THAT AND ALSO LIKE, LIKE JOHN CANNING, I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BRING IT, UH, UP, UH, AT THE FOREFRONT.
ONE, IF YOU WERE WATCHING THE MEETING EARLIER AND YOU WEREN'T BOUND TO, UH, BUT WHEN WE DISCUSSED CAPTAIN LAWRENCE, WE WERE DISCUSSING ABOUT OIL AND GRIT SEPARATORS.
UH, THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD IS VERY CONCERNED WITH RESPECT TO POLLUTION, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, OIL AND GAS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING IN PARKING LOTS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT.
AND TWO, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WAS I SAW, AND, AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR JAVIER TO, UH, ULTIMATELY ANSWER, I SAW, YOU KNOW, A VERY BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS.
I SAW A LOT OF, UM, ROCK THERE.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT, UH, ANY OF THAT THERE'S CONSIDERATIONS AS TO WHETHER THAT'D BE PERMEABLE IN THAT AREA.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PAVERS? YES.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH THOSE QUESTIONS, DO YOU, YOU YOU WANT US TO TAKE IT ONE SUBJECT AT A TIME, YOU KNOW, FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE TODAY? IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE INDICATING? WELL, WELL, IF OKAY.
YEAH, WE, WE, WE HAVE 25 MINUTES.
IF YOU COULD, IF YOU HAVE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE BROUGHT UP NOW OKAY.
AND THEN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
I, I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK WITH THE QUESTION OF THE FIVE LANE ROAD, LET, LET US LOOK AT THAT
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AGAIN AND LET US DO A LITTLE BIT OF LOOKING INTO THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING.I THINK IT'S SMART FOR US TO, IT'S, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.
LET'S LET, I I AND I HAVE IN LEAST PART OF IT, UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WILL TALK UP ON ZOOM.
I I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE NECESSARILY STUDIED THAT PARTICULARLY.
I HAVEN'T HEARD IT IN ANY OF OUR MEETINGS.
UH, IT IT, STEVE OR JAVIER? UH, OR, OR IS IT BEN WOULD WANT, WOULD YOU WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY WE CAN'T, WHY IT'S NOT IN OUR INTEREST TO BUILD THE GARAGE FIRST AND, AND MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE LESS TEMPORARY PARKING ON THE PLAN? WHO, WHO WOULD BE THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THAT? I'M SORRY.
SO, UH, WE, WE ACTUALLY REALLY TRIED OUR BEST TO MAKE THE TIMING OF THE GARAGE WORK FOR US.
AND, UM, IT'S JUST, IT JUST DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, IT JUST TAKES, UM, WHILE THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, WILL BE DONE AHEAD OF THE BUILDING, THE MAIN BUILDING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOES TAKE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, PROCURE, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY WITH COVID, YOU KNOW, JUST AROUND THE INDUSTRY, JUST GETTING IN THE PIPELINE FOR THE EQUIPMENT WE NEED.
IT'S, IT'S LONGER THAN WE'D LIKE, AND WE NEED TO START PRODUCING.
UH, AS WE TOUCHED ON AT THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, PRECLINICAL DEVELOPMENT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO OUR RESEARCH.
YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE CAN MANUFACTURE PRODUCTS THAT GO INTO PEOPLE'S BLOODSTREAM, WE NEED TO TEST IT.
AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF OUR PRECLINICAL DEVELOPMENT AND PROCESS TECHNOLOGIES ARE TO HAVE SAFE, SUSTAINABLE, UH, PRODUCTION OF THE THERAPIES WE GENERATE TO SAVE LIVES.
AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT PILOT SCALE BIOREACTOR, UH, FUNCTION AND, UM, AND, AND, AND MOVE THE PIPELINE FORWARD IN ORDER TO MEET OUR TIMELINES ON, ON MEDICINE.
SO, UM, TO US GETTING GOING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE FACTORING IN THE GARAGE SO THAT WE COULD TAKE THE TEMPORARY PARKING OFFLINE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WE, WE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT VALETS AND STACKERS AND, YOU KNOW, WAYS WE CAN DENSIFY OUR CURRENT PARKING WHILE MAKING IT, YOU KNOW, LIVABLE FOR OUR SCIENTISTS TO, TO GET TO THEIR BENCH, UH, ON CAMPUS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ADD UP ALL OF THE MATH AND ALL THE REQUIRED PARKING, AND WE'RE GROWING AS A COMPANY, EVEN WHILE THE SITE HASN'T BEEN FULLY OCCUPIED, WE'VE BEEN HIRING AND GROWING AS A COMPANY.
AND, UH, SO BETWEEN ALL OF THESE MOVING PARTS OF CONTRACTORS, UM, THE DISPLACEMENT OF PARKING, PARKING THAT WE TRULY NEED THE GROWTH OF OUR COMPANY WHILE ALL THIS IS HAPPENING AND THE TIME, THE TIME AND SPEED ELEMENTS RELATIVE TO THE MARKET AS IT IS TODAY, UH, WE FELT, UH, VERY MUCH COMPELLED TO GET A JUMP ON STARTING.
AND THAT DOES REQUIRE A MEASURE, THE MEASURE OF TEMPORARY PARKING PRESENT, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE, THERE IS AN ESTIMATE HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF, OF, OF, THERE CAN BE AS MANY AS A THOUSAND CONTRACTORS ON THIS SITE WHEN THIS GETS INTO FULL SWING.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO PUT THEM IN.
IF WE BUILT THE GARAGE FIRST, WE'D COST OURSELVES MORE THAN A YEAR, UH, IN, IN BEING ABLE TO GET INTO A COMPLETION DATE.
SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY THE SHORT ANSWER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT ANSWER.
I MEAN, THE, THE, AT LEAST TO MY SATISFACTION, IT, IT IS, UH, UH, IT'S, UH, A REASONABLE JUSTIFICATION WHY YOU CANNOT DO THAT.
UM, ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? YEAH, NO, NOT ON THAT.
I, FIRST OF, I LOVE THE FRANK ANSWER.
AND THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH RICHARD IRAN FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
WHEN, UH, MR. WEINGARTEN FIRST CAME TO US WITH A 10 YEAR PRO PLAN, IT'S GREAT TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION.
UM, ONE AREA THAT I'D LIKE YOU TO EXPLORE, MAYBE NOT TONIGHT, BUT BE PREPARED TO DO, IS ON THE, AND THE QUESTION OF GREEN ENERGY ON CAMPUS.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT POSSIBLE SOLAR PANELS I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT POSSIBLE, UH, WINDMILLS AND ALSO ABOUT BATTERY STORAGE.
YOU HAD TO SIT THROUGH OUR
SO WE'D, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THREE OF THOSE AS A POSSIBILITY.
WE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A A AT THE NEXT, UH, WORK SESSION ON THE 16TH, A PRESENTATION ON THE GREEN ELEMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH RESPECT TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
I DON'T HAVE IT TONIGHT, BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT.
AND ALSO ADD TO THAT CHARGING STATIONS.
UH, TO ADD ON TO YOUR COMMENTS, HUG, IF YOU READ THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS, THERE WAS, UH, OVER THE YEARS, THERE'S NUMEROUS OF CROSS EASEMENTS THAT WERE DONE OVER THE YEARS FROM DIFFERENT, UH, CONED, UNION CARBIDES, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, AFTER A WHILE I GAVE UP TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THE EASEMENTS, BUT, BUT BOTTOM LINE IS BASED UPON THE EASEMENTS IN EFFECT, NOW WHAT RIGHT? DOES CON EDISON HAVE TO PUT ANY TYPE OF FACILITY ON YOUR PROPERTY?
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THERE'S AN EASEMENT FOR CONED.I JUST WANNA KNOW THE NATURE OF THAT.
I DO YOU, DO YOU, UH, BEN, DO YOU KNOW THAT OR DO WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT? WE, WE'D HAVE TO.
WE'VE BEEN, WELL, LEMME JUST SAY, FIRST OFF, WE'VE BEEN IN DETAILED DISCUSSIONS WITH CONED, UH, BOTH, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PLANNING PHASE FOR LOOP ROAD AS WELL AS THIS PROJECT, UH, UM, FOR PARCEL D WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, UH, FURTHER AHEAD.
UM, BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN IN DETAILED DISCUSSIONS ON SERVICE, YOU KNOW, ON FIRM GAS, ON, YOU KNOW, ALL THE POWER NEEDS AND ALL THE DISTRIBUTION, UH, THAT YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, NEXT MONTH, UH, WHEN WE ENGAGE ON LOOP ROAD.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AS FAR AS EASEMENTS GO AND, AND BUILDING RIGHTS, UH, WE'D HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION.
UH, IT HAS NOT COME UP AS A SUBJECT OF CONCERN IN OUR UTILITY BASED DISCUSSIONS ON, ON SERVICE.
UM, BUT, UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE HERE, AGAIN, BECAUSE THE GOALS IS, SPEAK TO THE ISSUE WE SPOKE EARLIER IN TERMS OF BATTERY STORAGE AND WHERE BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES CAN BE LOCATED.
SO KNOWING, SO WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT ARE, UH, UH, THE CAPABILITIES OF A BATTERY STORAGE, OR THE INTENT, OR THE INTENT OF REGENERON, WHETHER OR NOT CAR EDISON, UH, EASEMENT, GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, BILL IT OR NOT.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THOSE EASEMENTS UN UNDERSTOOD.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT AT OUR NEXT ENGAGEMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, BOTH, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE KIND OF TOUCHES THE OTHER AS YOU, AS YOU NOTED, UH, IN YOUR PRIOR, YOU KNOW, UM, TOPIC.
BUT IT ALSO TOUCHES ON SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
UH, DISTRIBUTED POWER MODELS, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF, UH, APPROACHES.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO, THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE LARGE, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE, THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE LARGEST IN AGGREGATE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PARTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS 10 YEAR MASTER PLAN.
NOT, NOT JUST THIS ONE PARTICULAR PARCEL, BUT IN WHOLE, THIS BE ONE OF THE LARGEST LEAD PROJECTS IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, SO IT, IT'S A VERY NOTABLE PROJECT.
UH, IT'S GONNA GET A LOT OF ATTENTION AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA DO THE RIGHT THING.
UH, IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMPANY THAT, UH, WE'RE SUSTAINABLY MINDED AND APPROACH EVERYTHING WE DO, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, AN EYE ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND OUR IMPACT TO IT, AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE MOST MINIMAL FOOTPRINT POSSIBLE WHILE EXECUTING, YOU KNOW, EXCELLENT SCIENCE THAT HUMANITY NEEDS.
AND, UH, SO OUR GOAL IS TO DO ALL THE RIGHT THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT OUR PLAN ACHIEVES THAT, UH, AS, AS WE START TO MAP IT OUT.
UM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TOUCH ON THOSE POINTS, UH, IN MORE DETAIL WHEN WE, UH, AND I ALSO MAKE IT, MAKE IT, I WANNA MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT THE INTENT OF MY QUESTION AND VICE CHAIR Q'S QUESTION IS NOT IN OPPOSITION OF BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY.
WE JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE POSSIBLE PLANS, IF ANY, AND HOW THAT WILL FIT INTO THE PROPOSED BATTERY STORAGE LAW.
SO THAT'S, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE OPPOSING, BUT THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE QUESTION.
I'M ALSO CURIOUS FROM A, A BACKUP POINT OF VIEW, WHAT YOU GUYS PLAN ON DOING FOR BACKUP ENER ENERGY AS WELL.
WE, WE WILL HAVE, UH, EMERGENCY GENERATORS, OF COURSE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE VERY CLEAN ONES.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE GONNA, UH, HAVE, UH, HIGHLY EFFICIENT SYSTEMS THAT WE INTEGRATE INTO OUR, UH, INTO OUR FACILITIES.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REGENERON, YOU KNOW, BASIC POLICY AND STANDARDS TO HAVE REDUNDANCY.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T GO DOWN, OF COURSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE GOTTA KEEP GOING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE STORMS HIT, WE KEEP GOING.
SO, UH, WE WILL HAVE REDUNDANT SYSTEMS AND, UH, THEY, THEY WILL BE BACKED UP.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THAT ON THE LOOP ROAD SIDE, WE'RE A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG ON, UH, PARCEL D UH, AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE, UH, AGAIN, AS PART OF THE SUSTAINABLE MODEL, WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE OUR ENERGY PERSPECTIVE ON THE PROJECT AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO.
UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM BOARD? YEAH, WALTER, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, I THINK GOING BACK TO JOHN CANNON CITY MARK ON THE TEMPORARY, UH, PARKING, I HAVE A, UH, SORT OF FOLLOWING QUESTIONS.
WHAT'S THE TIMELINE TO, UH, BUILD THIS FACILITY FOR, UM, RESEARCH AND, UH, THE RESEARCH MANUFACTURING, UH, BUILDING AND THE, AND THE OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING VIS-A-VIS THE PARKING NEED? AND, UH, SO TIMELINE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND THE, UH, CRITICAL, CRITICAL NEED FOR HAVING THE TEMPORARY PARKING GARAGE.
UH, AND, AND WHAT IS THE SORT OF ALTERNATE PLANS THAT YOU HAVE CONSIDERED TO PROVIDE THAT TEMPORARY
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PARKING, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, HAVING A, UM, UH, KIND OF TEMPORARY, UH, MOVABLE KIND OF PARKING ARRANGEMENTS THAT DOUBLES THE PARKING LIKE YOU HAVE IN NEW YORK CITY, WHERE THEY CAN BRING IN, UH, SORT OF LIFT KIND OF THINGS AND, AND, AND, AND DOUBLE THE CAPACITY OF EXISTING PARKING ON EXISTING PARKING LOTS.UH, ALSO HAVING TO, UH, UH, A, USING THE OTHER FACILITY NEARBY IF THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING TO BE USED, AND THEN USING A SHUTTLE SERVICE TO BRING THE SCIENTISTS AND WORKERS TO THE FACILITY THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING.
UH, AND THE LAST, UH, UH, POINT IS THAT, UH, SINCE IT IS, IT IS ITLO IN WALLS CUTTING DOWN QUITE A FEW TREES, UH, SO IS, IS, IS THAT, UH, HOW CAN YOU DO THE, REDUCE THE NUMBER OF THE TREES THAT YOU CAN, DON'T HAVE TO CUT IT AND STILL PROVIDE A TEMPORARY PARKING MARK.
DID YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS? IF, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO NOW? SURE.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND BRIE, WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE MORE DETAIL, UH, AGAIN, ON OUR NEXT, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC, UH, DETAILS AND NEXT ENGAGEMENT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL YOUR POINTS ARE VERY WELL SAID, AND, AND, UH, WE, WE'VE CONTEMPLATED 'EM ALL.
SO WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PARKING PLAN.
IT INCLUDES STACKERS WHERE YOU STACK, YOU KNOW, CARS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
UH, WE'VE, UH, SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH A NUMBER OF VALET COMPANIES.
UM, JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE JOINING REGENERON, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, I RAN, UH, DESIGNING CONSTRUCTION FOR COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, SPECIFICALLY AT THE MEDICAL CENTER SITE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE BUILT, YOU KNOW, MAJOR PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, UNDERNEATH 30 TOWERS OF HOUSING, UH, 30 STORIES OF HOUSING.
UM, AND, UH, AND, AND IT WASN'T EASY.
AND, AND WE HAD TO FIND ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TRICKS THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH, UH, TO MAKE IT WORK.
AND, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, IN INCLUDING, UH, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT PHASED APPROACHES.
UM, YOU KNOW, AT A PREMIUM IN A CITY, IT'S, YOU HAVE TO BUILD ON A SLIVER.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE SITES HERE.
UH, WE HAVE SITES IN MOUNT PLEASANT, THE AMOUNT OF SITES OF SLEEPY HOLLOW.
WE WILL BE HAVING A SHUTTLE SERVICE.
WE'LL BE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN EACH ONE OF THOSE MODALITIES THAT WE CAN TO MAXIMIZE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN LEVERAGE, UH, EASILY.
AND THEN WE JUST HAVE TO INVEST IN AREAS THAT WE CAN'T.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIMITS TO WHAT WE CAN DO REALISTICALLY.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DID LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ON, ON OUR CMM SIDE, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE TRADES TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOOK AT SOME OTHER POSSIBILITIES THAT MAYBE THEY COULD COME UP WITH.
AND THE PROBLEMS YOU FACE IS, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE KIND OF HAS THAT SAME WINDOW OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GONNA GET REALLY BUSY AND BACK TO, BACK TO NORMAL, SO TO SPEAK, ONCE THESE VACCINES KICK IN AND, YOU KNOW, THESE PARKING LOTS WILL BE FILLED AGAIN.
AND TO HAVE A LONGER TERM, YOU KNOW, ONE AND A HALF TO TWO YEAR WINDOWS, VERY HARD TO NEGOTIATE FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK IT WOULD'VE BEEN EASY, BUT AS WE LOOK AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING BACK TO WORK, COMING BACK TO THEIR CAMPUSES AND NORMALIZING BACK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TO HAVE A BANKABLE SOLUTION.
AND IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, OUR APPROACH IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
IT TAKES ALL OF THE KIND OF STRATEGIES THAT YOU HAVE NOTED, UH, TO HEART.
AND, UH, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS OPTIMIZE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO DO, YOU KNOW, OPTION EIGHT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'D GO, WE LOOKED INVESTIGATED AT WHERE IT MADE MORE SENSE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME TEMPORARY SURFACE PARKING.
WE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, SHUTTLE SERVICES AND, AND WHAT MADE SENSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, FROM A TRA IT'S NOT JUST THE PARKING, BUT IT'S THE TRAFFIC AND THE CONGESTION.
WE HAD TO LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS.
SO, UH, WE THINK AS WE, UH, KIND OF ROLL OUT OUR PLAN, UH, YOU'LL SEE, UH, HOW IT UNFOLDS, UM, IN MORE DETAIL.
BUT, BUT ALL OF THOSE, UH, VERY GOOD POINTS WERE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE DID OUR ANALYSIS AND CAME UP WITH OUR GAME PLAN.
SO, SO WE, WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH MORE SPECIFICS ON WE, WE'VE HEARD THE ISSUES ABOUT PHASING AND UTILIZATION AND MANAGEMENT, AND WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'RE, UH, ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS NEXT TIME, SPECIFICALLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY BOARD MEMBERS? UH, WELL, I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING A LOT MORE ABOUT THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, THE WETLANDS AREAS.
I KNOW YOU SAID YOUR REPRESENTATIVE WAS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ADDRESSED IN DETAIL NEXT TIME.
THAT'S ON, THAT'S ON WETLANDS.
UH, STEVE, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ON STORMWATER MANAGEMENT OR DO YOU WANNA WAIT TO THE NEXT MEETING? SURE, SURE.
UH, SO REGARDING STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, PRO PROVIDING SOME GREEN PRACTICES.
WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, TO UTILIZE SOME EXISTING, UH, PRACTICES ON THE CAMPUS, AS WELL AS, UH, REPAIRING AND MITIGATING A PORTION OF THE EXISTING WETLAND.
UM, SO WHEREVER WE CAN PROPOSE GREEN PRACTICES, WE ARE PROPOSING THEM.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, THE PARKING GARAGE HERE, UM, WHICH IS LOCATED PARTIALLY OVER SOME EXISTING IMPERVIOUS AREA, BUT THERE IS A NEW IMPERVIOUS.
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WE'RE PROPOSING TWO LARGE BIO RETENTION AREAS, UH, SURFACE AREAS THAT'LL BE HEAVILY LANDSCAPED THAT THE WATER WILL FLOW INTO, AND IT'LL BE FORCED TO FILTER DOWN THROUGH SOIL MEDIA, BE COLLECTED AND THEN DISCHARGED THROUGHOUT THE, UH, TO EVENTUALLY MEET THE EXISTING STORM WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM THAT'S ON THE CAMPUS.UM, THERE'S A POND HERE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO, UH, CONTINUE TO UTILIZE.
UH, THERE'S ALL, THERE'S THE EXISTING WETLAND HERE.
UH, I GUESS THEY'RE BOTH CONSIDERED WETLANDS, BUT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS REALLY A POND.
UM, THAT, OF COURSE, IN MANY CASES THEY BECOME WETLANDS.
UH, BUT THE ONE ON THE LEFT HERE, THIS IS A LARGE WETLAND THAT HAS A LOT OF INVASIVE SPECIES, SOME OVERGROWN, UH, SOME VINES, CLIMBING TREES, SOME DEBRIS.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO CLEAN THAT UP.
AND, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, U YOU KNOW, UTILIZE THIS FOR STORM WATER TREATMENT, UH, CURRENTLY WATER FLOWS THROUGH THE WETLAND FROM THE CAMPUS, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THAT AND ENHANCE IT.
AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO, UH, THERE'LL BE SOME GREEN PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THE PLAZA, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, DEPRESSED ISLANDS WHERE THE WATER WOULD FLOW FROM PAVERS INTO THE LANDSCAPED AREAS, AND THERE'LL BE DRAINS AND IT COULD DRAIN OUT.
SO SORT OF DISCONNECTING IMPERVIOUS AREA, SOME ITEMS LIKE THAT TO, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE WATER QUALITY, ENHANCE RUNOFF REDUCTION, AS WELL AS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TYPICAL, UH, YOU KNOW, PEAK RATE ATTENUATION AND, AND VOLUME CONTROL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF STORM WATER PROPOSED HERE.
AND, UM, IT IS, UH, IT WILL MEET THE TOWN CODE, THE STATE CODE.
IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, UH, ABOVE AND BEYOND THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
SO STEVE, THERE WERE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS EARLIER ABOUT OIL AND GRIT SEPARATORS, AS WELL AS PERMEABLE PAVERS.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT TONIGHT? UH, WELL THE PARKING, THE PARKING GARAGE, UM, I, I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE TO VERIFY, I BELIEVE THERE'S OIL, WATER SEPARATORS PROPOSED AT THE OUTLET PIPES OF THE PARKING GARAGE, UM, WITHIN THE GARAGE THEMSELVES.
BEFORE THOSE DRAINS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST STORM DRAINS.
BUT BEFORE THOSE DRAINS LEAVE THE GARAGE AND CONVEY THE WATER TO OFFSITE, UM, I AM ABOUT 90% SURE WE ARE.
UM, THERE'S, UM, THERE'S A, FOR SOME OF THE EXISTING IMPERVIOUS AREA, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE AREA WHERE THE PLAZA IS LOCATED, THERE'S A PARKING LOT AND SOME DRIVE ISLES.
AND CURRENTLY THE CAMPUS HAS SOME DRAIN INLETS WITHIN THE PARKING AREAS THAT JUST COLLECT THE WATER AND IT DOES NOT FLOW TO THIS WETLAND AREA FOR TREATMENT AND, AND RETENTION.
IT, THERE'S SOME PIPES THAT JUST FLOW OFFSITE TO ADJACENT WATERCOURSE DOWN HERE, WHICH EVENTUALLY RUNS TO THE SAWMILL RIVER.
SO WE'RE INTERCEPTING A LOT OF THAT, OR ACTUALLY ALL OF IT, UM, ALONG THE CORRIDOR HERE.
AND WE WILL HAVE, UH, AN UNDERGROUND WATER FILTRATION TREATMENT MANHOLE, PRETTY LARGE STRUCTURE.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, THERE'S A LARGE UNDERGROUND DETENTION SYSTEM PROPOSED HERE.
SO, UM, YEAH, I KNOW YOU HAD A LOT OF DETAIL INCLUDED IN, IN WHAT WAS SENT OVER.
JUST NEXT TIME I'D LOVE TO SEE IT, YOU KNOW, ILLUSTRATED A BIT ON SCREEN.
JUST TAKE US THROUGH WHERE THESE AREAS ARE AND YOU KNOW, KIND OF SHOW US AS WELL AS DESCRIBE IT.
OUR, OUR DIRECTION TONIGHT WAS KEEP THE PRESENTATION TO UNDER A HALF HOUR.
HAPPY TO DO IT AT THE NEXT ONE.
OH, YOU, OH, YOU'LL BE PRESENTING BOTH? YES, I THINK SO.
SO IF, IF, UH, UH, HACKLEY SCHOOL RUN OVER OR VICE VERSA, WE'LL BLAME YOU.
ONE OTHER THING IN TERMS OF THE WETLANDS AND, AND, UH, UH, UM, AND THE, AND THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE TO PROTECT, UH, UH, THE WETLANDS, ARE YOU IN THIS, IN DISCUSSION WITH THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL? YEAH, WELL, I, I THINK WE, WE, WE ARE GONNA BE REFERRED, I ASSUME, TO THE CONSERVATION BOARD, CORRECT, AARON? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THEY HAVE NOT YET, UH, BEEN SCHEDULED BEFORE THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, BUT WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, THE C A C'S BEEN MADE AWARE OF THE PROJECT, SO WE'LL CERTAINLY GET REFERRED AND THEY'LL MOVE THAT DIRECTION SHORTLY.
I MEAN, I MEAN, AGAIN, ON MR. CHAIRMAN, AS FAR AS PRESTIG IS CONCERNED, WE, WE WILL, WE'LL MEET WITH THEM AS SOON AS THEY'RE ABLE.
I MEAN, I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE, THE TWO THINGS WE, WE WOULD BE ASKING YOU TO FOCUS ON IS CLEARLY YOU HAVE A REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION REQUIREMENT TO THE TOWN BOARD ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, WHICH NEEDS TO GO BACK.
AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE THE TOWN BOARD COMPLETE SEEKER, WHICH YOU NEED TO
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BE ABLE TO DO YOUR ACTIONS, AS DOES THE Z B A.SO THAT WOULD BE NUMBER ONE ON OUR LIST OF HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GET THROUGH THE ISSUES THAT YOU NEED TO GET THROUGH SO YOU CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU CAN MAKE THAT REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WHEN YOU'RE THERE, WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE MATTERS THAT ARE DIRECTLY AT YOUR JURISDICTION, SO THEN WE COULD MOVE ALONG WITH THOSE ITEMS. SO THO THOSE, THAT'S KIND OF OUR FOCUS HERE AT THE BEGINNING.
THE, AT, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS.
AND, AND THAT'S OURS ALSO, BUT I JUST, JUST SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET EVERYTHING LINED UP SO WE CAN MEET A SCHEDULE THAT MEET THAT WILL SATISFY ALL OF OUR MEETING, SO, TERRIFIC.
WITH THAT, WE, UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER POINTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THIS EVENING? CAN I RESERVE MY FOUR MINUTES FOR NEXT, THE NEXT MEETING?
WE'LL NEGOTIATE
UH, UH, I THINK IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.
I THINK WE GOT, WE WE GOT, UH, UH, GOT OFF TO A GOOD START.
IT, IT IS LIKE, LIKE I INDICATED AT FIRST THAT, UH, I, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS ONE NIGHT, BUT WE ARE ON, YOU ARE ON FOR THE, THE NEXT, UH, MEETING AND, UH, AND YOU'LL BE PRESENTING BOTH APPLICATIONS.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON BOTH.
WELL, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL TO SEE ALL OF YOU.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE DOING THIS IN PERSON BEFORE THIS THING IS OVER.
SO WE'LL GET TO SEE EVERYONE AGAIN.
SO IF THERE IS NO OTHER QUESTIONS, SO I THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING TO THE MEETING AND, UH, YOU ENJOY THE, THE REST OF THE WEEK.