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OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

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UH, EVERYONE, UH,

[ FINAL TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD AGENDA WEDNESDAY, June 16, 2021 – 5:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 8:00 p.m. ]

WELCOME TO THE PLANNING BOARD WORK SESSION OF JUNE 16TH, 2021.

UH, MR. UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? SURE.

VICE CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ.

PRESENT.

MR. GOLDEN? HERE.

MR. DESAI? HERE.

MR. HAY? HERE.

MS. F*G? HERE.

MR. SNAG.

AND I'M HERE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR COMING ON LATE.

BOY.

WHAT BOY? JOHANN, YOU SOUND DIFFERENT.

.

OKAY.

I, I GIVE THE GAVEL OVER TO, TO MR. SIMON.

WALTER, WE'RE JUST IN THE ROLL CALL.

OKAY.

SO MINUTES ARE NEXT.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO APPLAUD, UH, THE DEPUTY, UH, CHAIR FOR, UH, HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS THUS FAR.

OKAY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU, CAN YOU GO OVER THE MINUTES WHILE I GET ALL MY PAPERWORK IN ORDER? I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS DELAY.

SURE.

DELAY IT ANY FURTHER.

NO, NO, NO WORRIES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES TO OUR MINUTES OF JUNE 2ND? I HAD, UM, TWO.

ONE WAS ON PAGE FIVE, UH, CASE PB 2106, THE SECOND PARAGRAPH THAT THE STARTED WITH CHAIRMAN SIMON, IF YOU GO DOWN 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 LINES, IT SAYS, MANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC STATED THAT THEY TRAVELED, OH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC STATED THAT THEY TRAVELED BY CARPOOL.

THAT IMPLIES THAT EVERYONE DID THAT.

IT SHOULD BE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC STATED THAT MANY TRAVELED BY CARPOOL.

IT'S NOT ALL.

SO JUST IN, UH, REMOVE THE WORD THEY AND PUT IN MANY, I THINK THAT'D BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WAS.

OKAY.

WILL DO.

ON PAGE SIX, UH, TB 2104, UH, THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE, IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, IT'S NOT CLEAR.

AND, UH, THE SECOND LINE FOR THE SE UH, BOTTOM IT SAYS CAPACITY, UH, UM, LEMME SEE.

UH, AND IF THE RESTRICTIONS SHOULD BE BASED ON CAPACITY OR , IT'S NOT EITHER OR.

THEY BOTH APPLY.

BUT IN DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CAPACITY, THAT WE USE CAPACITY TO DEVELOP THE TIERS, YOU KNOW, 80 MEGAWATTS IS TIER ONE, AND THEN WE HAVE TIER TWO AND TIER THREE.

SO WE USE CAPACITY TO, TO FORM THE TIERS.

THEN WITHIN THE TIERS, WE USE THE FOOT, THE FOOTPRINT.

UM, YEAH, WALTER, THAT'S RIGHT.

IT NEEDS TO, BUT YOU NEED TO EXPAND THE LANGUAGE THEN TO DO THAT.

BECAUSE WITHIN THE TIER, YEAH.

YOU NEED TO SAY SOMETHING ON, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE ON, BASED ON CAPACITY TO ESTABLISH A TIERS AND ON FOOTPRINT WITHIN THE TIERS.

YEAH.

FOOTPRINT WITHIN THE TIERS.

THE TIER ONE FOOTPRINT WITHIN TIER TWO AND THREE, TIER ONE IS NO.

OH, RIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THAT WAS THE ONLY CHANGES I HAD.

DO ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? I SAW MONA HAD RAISED YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

MONA? YEAH, I, I JUST HAVE ONE TYPO THAT'S ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE FOUR.

THE LAST PARAGRAPH ON A MOTION MADE BY CHAIRPERSONS SIMON.

UM, THEY HAVE YOUR NAME SPELLED WRONG.

CHAIRPERSON SIMON.

THEY HAVE SIMON.

AH, OH, I THE A OFF SIMON.

THAT WOULD BE BETTER.

I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT.

SEE, I HAVE TO LEARN TO SPEND MY, SPELL MY OWN NAME.

THANK YOU, MARTIN .

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES? IF NOT, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS AMENDED.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

NO ONE OPPOSED.

SO THE MINUTES IS, UH, CORRECTED AND ADOPTED.

UM, I, AND AYE, EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T VOTE, WALTER DIDN'T CARE THAT I DIDN'T VOTE, BUT I, I AM VOTING NOW.

I WAS AWAY FROM MY COMPUTER.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR VOTING.

THANK YOU, .

OKAY.

UM, THERE

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ARE NO CORRESPONDENCE THAT I'M AWARE OF, UH, AARON AND ANY, YES, THERE IS, UH, A BRIEF ITEM THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING UP.

WE DID SEND OUT INFORMATION ON IT.

IT RELATES TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OFFICE SENT AS THE FOUNTAIN HEAD APARTMENT, RIGHT.

AND WE SENT SOME INFORMATION RELATED TO A STOP WORK ORDER IN VIOLATION THAT RIGHT, THAT COMPLEX RECEIVED IN CONNECTION WITH, UH, REPLACING SOME FENCING ALONG THEIR PROPERTY LINE.

AND THAT, THAT COMPLEX WAS, UH, APPROVED AS CASE NUMBER PB 79 DASH ZERO ONE.

UH, SO BACK SOME TIME, BUT WITHIN THAT DECISION, THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT ALONG THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE, A SIX FOOT HIGH WOOD FENCE BE INSTALLED.

AND THAT FENCE WAS INSTALLED.

UH, THE, THE OWNERSHIP THAT INDICATED THAT, UH, IT WAS FALLING APART IN, IN POOR CONDITION, THEY WERE REPLACED IN THE MIDST OF REPLACING IT WITH CHAIN LINK FENCING.

AND THEY WERE STOPPED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

UM, THEY WERE NOTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL BY THE, BY THE PLANNING BOARD BACK IN 79 RELATED TO THAT.

AND, UM, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED SOME INFORMATION.

THEY HIRED AN ENGINEER.

I KNOW MR. FREE'S BEEN OUT TO THE SITE.

THERE WAS SOME PHOTOGRAPHS PROVIDED, AND THEY DO HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD IF THEY SEEK TO AMEND THAT CONDITION, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'VE INDICATED TO US.

SO WE WOULD LIKE, UH, THE BOARD TO CONSIDER PLACING THAT MATTER ON FOR ITS JULY 7TH MEETING FOR A COMBINATION WORK SESSION AND PUBLIC HEARING.

THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST WOULD REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING TO PLANNING.

AARON, HOW, HOW DID, HOW DID, UH, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FIND OUT ABOUT THIS? A, A NEIGHBOR? I BELIEVE THERE WAS A PHONE CALL, UH, BY A NEIGHBOR.

I JUST WANNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

UM, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE NEED NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK.

WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO CALL THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHO IS VERY, VERY RESPONSIVE WHEN THEY HEAR THESE THINGS.

AND OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE THE ONES WITH THE HISTORY THAT CAN LOOK UP WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE OR NOT.

SO I THANK THE NEIGHBOR FOR DOING IT, AND I WOULD HOPE THE COMMUNITY WOULD DO DO THAT MORE WHEN THEY SEE THINGS LIKE THIS.

YEAH.

THANK, THANK YOU.

AND, AND I WENT OUT THERE YESTERDAY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND, UH, UH, UM, AND I THINK AT THIS POINT IT'S WHAT'S, WHAT'S NEEDED AND WHAT'S REASONABLE.

UH, THERE IS A CONSIDERABLE LENGTH OF, UH, UH, SINGH.

THERE IS A PORTION, UH, MR. CHAIR, I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT TOO MUCH, BUT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE NOT HAVE MUCH OF A DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

UM, ON, WITH RESPECT TO THE MERITS, UM, I WOULD POINT YOU TO THE DIRECTION IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU THINK IT'S, UH, REASONABLE TO EITHER HAVE BOARD MEMBERS GO OUT OR WE THINK THAT OKAY.

VERY WELL TAKEN.

SO THAT WOULD BE, I WILL LIMIT MY COMMENTS TO THE FACT THAT, UH, I WENT OUT THERE AND, AND VIEWED IT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO GO OUT AND, AND VIEW IT.

UH, AND, AND WITH THAT, THEN WE BE ABLE TO DO A VETA, UH, DO A GOOD EVALUATION WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE BOARD.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO WE'LL JUST MOVE ON.

I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THAT I SORT AND WE CAN, UH, WE HAVE A CONTACT PERSON, SO ANYONE WHO WISHES TO GO TO THE SITE, UH, CAN WORK THROUGH AARON AND CONTACT, UH, UH, THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE THERE.

OKAY, GOOD.

UM, IS ANY, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THE, OKAY, THEN WE HAVE ONE, UH, THING BEFORE OUR TWO, UH, MAJOR, UH, ISSUES THIS EVENING.

ONE IS THE VAN NESS, UH, UH, PROPERTY, UH, TWO 50 FORT HILL ROAD.

UM, THAT CAME BEFORE US SOME YEARS AGO.

UH, AND, UH, AND WE, THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED, BUT THE NEW OWNERS WILL LIKE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT.

SO WHAT I ASKED THEM TO DO IS TO COME IN AND INDICATE, UM, UM, WHAT ADJUSTMENTS THEY NEED TO MAKE.

AND, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A SUBDIVISION WE HAD, THAT HAS TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARING ALSO.

SO AT LEAST WE'LL GET AN UPDATE OF WHAT CHANGES ARE BEING MADE, ARE BEING PROPOSED.

AND WE WILL PUT THAT OVER, SCHEDULE THAT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO COULD YOU, IS SOMEONE HERE FROM, UH, FOR THE APPLICATION FOR

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WELL, WE'RE GONNA, YES.

WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE AARON JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD THAT THIS IS RELATES TO CASE NUMBER PB 1932, NOW KNOWN AS THE VAN NESS PROJECT, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE CLARK PROJECT.

TWO 50 FORT HILL ROAD.

PO SCARSDALE INVOLVES A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AS WELL AS A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATION, UH, TO SUBDIVIDE ONE LOT INTO TWO LOTS FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTING ONE NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

THE, UH, DESIGN PROFESSIONALS ARE THE SAME AS, UH, WITH THE, UH, NEW OWNER AS THEY WERE WITH THE OLD OWNER, UM, THE FORMER OWNER I SHOULD SAY.

AND THEY WERE BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD IN SEPTEMBER, 2020 FOR WORK SESSION.

AT THAT TIME, IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION THAT THE PROPERTY WAS, UM, IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING HANDS.

IT SINCE HAS CHANGED HANDS AND THERE'S BEEN SOME SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLAN.

WE DO HAVE MR. KECHI HERE AS WELL AS THE NEW OWNER, UH, TO PRESENT THE PROJECT BRIEFLY AND THEN TO GO THROUGH THE REVISIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS NOT SEEN TO DATE.

UH, AND THEN IF THE BOARD'S COMFORTABLE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE DISCUSSION, IT CAN MOVE ALONG TO CONSIDER SCHEDULING THIS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU.

AND JUST ONE OTHER POINT OF CLARIFI, OR MAYBE TWO POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.

ONE, THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN, UH, APPROVAL ON THIS.

UH, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE BOARD BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS, UH, INVOLVING THE HISTORIC BOARD.

WE ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, TOLD THE APPLICANT TO, UH, CLEAR UP SOME THINGS WITH THE, UH, HISTORIC BOARD.

UM, IN YOUR CORRESPONDENCE, YOU, YOU, UH, SEE THAT THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.

AND, UH, SO NOW THEY'RE READY TO COME BACK AND CONTINUE WITH THE APPLICATION.

THANK YOU, DAVID, THAT, WITH THAT CLARIFICATION, DO WE HAVE, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE FOR PPE? UH, 1932.

YES.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS GREGORY KACI FROM GABRIEL C'S OFFICE.

UH, HERE TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT, WE ARE THE, THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL OF THE ENGINEERS ON THE, ON THE JOB.

UM, I'M GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN SO I YOU CAN GET A VISUAL, UH, WHILE I'M PRESENTING.

UM, SO JUST TO BRIEFLY RECAP WHAT, UH, AARON STATED, UM, THE, THE, THE EXISTING LOT, UH, CURRENTLY HAS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, TWO AND A HALF STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

UH, THE CHANGE FROM THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION IS, UH, THERE IS NOW A TWO CAR GARAGE, UH, ADDED TO THE, UH, SUBDIVISION FLAT.

UH, THE CLIENT HAD A GARAGE INSTALLED RECENTLY.

UM, AND UH, WHAT HE'S LOOKING TO DO IS, UH, PURSUE THE SUBDIVISION AND, UH, CREATE TWO LOTS FROM HIS EXISTING 66,000, UH, 75 SQUARE FOOT LOT.

HE WOULD LIKE TO DIVIDE IT INTO TWO, UH, THIS BOLD LINE THAT COMES DOWN THE MIDDLE HERE AND, UH, CREATE, UH, A NEW TAX LOT, WHICH IS LABELED AS SEVEN A GREGORY.

YEAH, THAT'S BETTER.

I WAS GONNA ASK YOU TO GROW IT, BLOW IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

YES, THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

UM, SO NEW TAX SLOT SEVEN A, UH, AND SEVEN B AND THE EXISTING HOME WILL, UH, STILL BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH ALL ZONING, UH, REGULATIONS AND ZONING CODE.

SO WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY TYPE OF VARIANCES IN THAT REGARD.

UM, AND THE PROPOSED LOT ALSO HAS NO ISSUE WITH, UH, MEETING ZONING REGULATIONS.

UH, WE DISPLAYED A PROPOSED DWELLING HERE WITH, UH, CORRESPONDING STORM WATER MITIGATION AS NECESSARY.

AND, UH, IT A TURNAROUND SO THAT THE VEHICLES PULL OUT HEADFIRST ONTO FORT HILL ROAD FOR ANY SAFETY CONCERNS.

AND, UH, GREG, I'M SORRY, CAN I STOP YOU FOR A SECOND? SURE.

THIS PLAN THAT YOU'RE SHOWING US SHOWS A NEW CURB CUT ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

YEAH, CORRECT.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT? UM, THAT'S CORRECT.

WE ARE NOT DOING THE CURB CUT AS OF RIGHT NOW.

UM, UM, SORRY, CRAIG, CAN I JUMP IN? THIS IS CHARLES VAN.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FAR RIGHT CURB CUT? 'CAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROPERTY.

THAT'S THE FLAG LOT.

THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING CUT IN NOW, BUT THAT'S NOT MY PROPERTY.

THE FAR TO THE FAR RIGHT? UH, NO, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.

OH, OKAY.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS CURB CUT.

YEAH, THAT'S IT, RIGHT? YEAH.

I MEAN, WHEN THIS HOUSE, WHEN THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE GETS CONSTRUCTED, WE WILL, THIS CURB CUT IS

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NECESSARY IN ORDER TO ACCESS THE EXISTING DWELLING, BUT RIGHT NOW IT HAS NOT BEEN, THEY'RE NOT PURSUING THIS CURB CUT, UH, MEANING THE ONE TO THE NORTH, THE NORTHERN CURB CUT.

SO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IS STILL IN USE, UH, UNTIL THE PROPOSED RESIDENT, THIS, THIS CURB CUT IS, WILL STILL BE IN USE UNTIL THE, UH, THE OWNER DECIDES TO PURSUE THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE.

THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE.

RIGHT.

IF FOR PURPOSES OF THE SUBDIVISION, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THAT, UH, YOU'RE GONNA NEED THAT CURB CUT.

SO THE ANSWER, MICHAEL, IS IT ACTUALLY STAY, IT IS THERE, IT'S NOT BEING TAKEN AWAY.

THE ONE ON THE RIGHT.

YEAH, NO, I MEAN THAT'S NOT WHAT I READ IN THE, IN THE MATERIALS WE GOT.

OKAY, WELL, WHAT, HE'S NOT THIS PLAN.

UM, MR. VINES, DO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN, DO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN IT SO THAT WE CAN BE SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE PLAN IS? RIGHT, SO THE, WITH THE SUBDIVISION, RIGHT? SO ONCE THE PROPERTY IS SUBDIVIDED, UM, LIKE CRAIG, I SAID THE, THE NEW LOT WOULD TAKE OVER THE EXISTING CURB CUT, AND THEN I WOULD NEED A NEW CURB CUT TO END TO, UH, TO ENTER MY PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT.

BUT YOU CAN'T SUBDIVIDE AND, AND, AND CREATE A FACT A, A, UH, A CODE, UH, UH.

RIGHT.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE VIOLATION.

BECAUSE IF YOU SUBDIVIDE, THEN A HOUSE HAS NO WAY, THERE'S NO ACCESS TO THE HOUSE, RIGHT? YES.

SO PART OF THE SUBDIVISION HAS TO BE THE DRIVEWAY.

YES.

NOW I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CLEARLY, YES.

WE WILL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, PERFORMING THE WORK ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THE PROPOSED CURB CUT ON SUBDIVISION, UH, IF WE OBTAIN SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.

YES.

YES.

IT'S PART OF, IT IS PART OF THE PROCESS.

SO WHEN WE GET A, WHEN WE FILE THE PLATT WITH THE COUNTY, THE WORK FOR THIS CURB CUT WILL BE PERFORMED.

NO, BUT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING CAN, AND, UH, AND DAVID AND AARON CHIME IN, IN ORDER TO SUBDIVIDE THIS PROPERTY AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION, IT HAS TO INCLUDE YEAH, THE NEW DRIVEWAY, OF COURSE.

IS THAT, IS NOT THAT YOU, WE CREATE A SUBDIVISION, THEN LATER ON YOU PUT IN THE DRIVE IN IT IS WHAT IS, HAS TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

RIGHT? LET, LEMME JUMP IN IF I MAY.

SO THE WAY, UM, SUBDIVISION IN OUR CODE IS ALSO REFERRED TO AS A CONDITIONAL SUBDIVISION, AND THAT'S WHEN THE BOARD STIPULATES CONDITIONS SUCH AS THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE DRIVEWAY.

SO THE PLAT, THE SUBDIVISION COULD NOT BE ISSUED FINAL APPROVAL UNTIL IT WAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE EXISTING LOT OR THE THE LOT TO BE CREATED WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE WAS FULLY COMPLIANT WITH ZONING.

SO IT WOULD BE SOMETIME BETWEEN, IT COULD BE SOONER, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETIME BETWEEN PRELIMINARY AND FINAL WHERE THAT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION THAT PROPOSED LOT SEVEN OR SEVEN, EIGHT, WHATEVER IT WAS, WOULD BE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH ALL ZONING B SEVEN B.

PARDON ME.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, TO STATE, BUT THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

BUT YEAH, WE, WE ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR THAT CURB CUT A FEW MONTHS AGO AND IT WOULD RETURN BACK TO US SAYING THAT WE WERE PREMATURE TO DO IT, THAT WE HAD TO GET THIS APPROVAL FIRST BEFORE WE CAN TAKE THAT NEXT STEP.

RIGHT.

YOU HAVE TO GET THE PRELIMINARY AND THEN WE CAN WORK WITH YOU.

OKAY.

SO, WELL THAT EXPLAINS THAT, THAT IT CANNOT BE FINALIZED.

YOU COULD GO THROUGH THAT, BUT IT CANNOT BE FINALIZED UNTIL THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN.

OKAY.

CONTINUE, GREG.

AND, UH, ALRIGHT, SO, UM, IN ADDITION, THE PROPERTY HAS NO, NO STEEP SLOPES.

UH, IT HAS NO WETLAND.

SO WE CLEARED THE, THE STEEP SLOPE CLEARANCE AS WELL AS THE WETLAND CLEARANCE.

UM, THERE ARE SOME, UH, TREES TO BE, UH, ARE THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROPOSED DWELLING.

AND, UH, AARON HAS, UH, ADVISED OR TOLD US THAT WE DO HAVE TO CONFORM TO THE NEW TREE ORDINANCE, THE NEW TREE CODE, WHICH WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH.

SO WE WILL BE SUBMITTING AN UPDATED, UH, TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATION AND, UH, ADJUST THE PLANTING PLAN AS WELL TO MEET, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS BASED OFF OF THE REMOVALS.

OKAY.

UM, AND, UH, THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO ANSWER ANY ADDIT.

YEAH, I, I, GO AHEAD HUGH.

UM, YEAH, ON THE DRY, THE NEW CURB CUT, THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES AROUND THAT CURB

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CUT.

UM, DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SITE DISTANCE? PEOPLE DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD REAL FAST.

UM, DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SITE DISTANCES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THAT CURB CUT? UM, RIGHT, YES.

SO, UH, WE ARE ABLE TO MEET, HOW IT WORKS IS IT'S, YOU MEASURE 15 FEET BACK OFF THE CURB AND THEN 200 FEET IN EITHER DIRECTION.

UH, THERE AREN'T ANY SHARP TURNS, UH, TO THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH.

SO THERE AREN'T ANY SITE DISTANCE ISSUES.

AND, UH, NEXT TIME WE PRESENT TO THE BOARD, I'LL, I'LL SHOW HER, I'LL, I'LL INCLUDE A SITE DISTANCE ANALYSIS PLAN.

IT'S IMPORTANT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT AS WELL.

YES.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THE TREES THAT ARE, LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT RID OF THE TREES OBVIOUS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DRIVEWAY, BUT THE TREES TO THE RIGHT WAY DO NOT OBSCURE THE VIEW VIEW AT ALL.

CORRECT? THEY DO NOT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE 15 FEET IS ABOUT HERE.

OKAY.

SO WE, WE NEED TO SEE THAT DATA.

RIGHT.

YOU'LL SEE THE, YOU'LL SEE THE ANALYSIS, UH, ON THE NEXT SUBMITTAL AND THEN FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT YOURSELF.

OKAY.

CAN I JUST CLARIFY, DID YOU SAY THAT THE CURB WAS MARKED THERE? STONE CURB IS 15 FEET FROM THE WALL.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DIMENSION, BUT I'M SAYING IT'S, IT OFF OF EYEBALLING 15 FEET IS APPROXIMATELY HERE.

'CAUSE I SEE THIS DIMENSION HERE.

UM, SO ON, ON THE NEXT SUBMITTAL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, OKAY, I WILL SHOW THE ANALYSIS TO CLARIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE THAT, THAT YOU, THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT AS WELL.

UH, WHAT IS THE MATERIAL OF THAT DRIVEWAY THAT'S GONNA SERVICE THE EXISTING HOUSE? IT WAS GRAVEL BEFORE THIS.

I DON'T SEE IT LABELED ANYWHERE.

UH, RIGHT.

AND, UM, MR. VANNESS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE WE'RE DOING ASPHALT DRIVEWAY.

UH, YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA END UP WITH AN ASPHALT, UH, AT LEAST COMING INTO IT.

AND WE MAY DO SOME KIND OF BLOCK OR I'LL PUT SOME GRAVEL BACK IN.

THAT'S STILL UP IN THE AIR A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT.

BUT YEAH, DEF I I WOULD SAY LEADING OUT INTO THE ROAD WOULD BE ASPHALT.

WHAT IS, YOU MIGHT NEED SOME STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FOR THE INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS SERVICE.

I'M GUESSING.

I SEE IT ON THE NEW HOUSE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE EXISTING.

RIGHT.

UH, SO, UH, 'CAUSE WE ACCOUNTED FOR THE REMOVALS.

SO BASICALLY IN OUR, UH, ANALYSIS, THESE ARE NOT, UM, WHAT I DID WAS, AND I'LL MAKE THIS MORE CLEAR THE NEXT TIME, UH, IS ALL THE REMOVALS WE SUBTRACTED, THE, WHAT WE'RE REMOVING AS IMPERVIOUS OR AS, UH, IMPERVIOUS FROM THIS LOT, AND THEN WHATEVER ADDITIONAL WILL HAVE TO BE CAPTURED BY STORMWATER.

I BELIEVE WHEN WE SUBMITTED, UH, THE PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED TWO CAR GARAGE, THAT'S SHOWN ON THE PLAN NOW, UH, WE DID, UH, AN ANALYSIS FOR IT, BUT I'LL CERTAINLY MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR ON, ON THE NEXT SUBMITTAL AS TO WHAT MY CALCULATIONS WERE FOR THE REMOVALS, WHAT'S EXISTING ON SEVEN B, AND WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THERE IS EVEN, UH, MORE STORM WATER THAT NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED ON, ON LOT SEVEN B TO CAPTURE, UH, WHAT WE DO WITH THE DRIVEWAY DEPENDING ON, UH, OUR CLIENT'S DECISION ON, ON HOW HE WANTS TO HANDLE THE FINISHED MATERIAL.

RIGHT.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THE GARAGE INFORMATION WAS SUBMITTED TO US.

I DON'T THINK WE RIGHT.

NO, IT, IT WASN'T.

SO YES, IF YOU COULD PRESENT THAT, SHOW US WHAT WAS REMOVED, GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE CALCULATING TO HELP HELPFUL.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, WALTER, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE.

MICHAEL, WHAT, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT ROUNDABOUT ON THE DRIVEWAY? UM, GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY.

UH, SO WHEN, IF A VEHICLE IS PULLING IN, RIGHT, UH, IT JUST KIND OF, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S, THERE'S AN AESTHETIC APPEAL TO IT AND, AND ALSO TWO CARS CAN, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S PULLING OUT, SOMEBODY CAN PULL IN WITHOUT AN ISSUE, UM, PARKING, ADDITIONAL PARKING AREA, BECAUSE OVER HERE, IF YOU'RE PARKING IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE AND YOU GOTTA GET A CAR OUT, YOU GOTTA MOVE ONE, YOU KNOW, TO PULL THIS CAR OUT.

AND THEN, SO IT, IT KIND OF GIVES US MORE SPACE TO MANEUVER VEHICLES WITHIN THE PROPERTY SINCE FORT HILL IS SUCH A BUSY ROAD.

AND, UH, THAT'S WHY WE FELT THE NEED FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS CIRCLE HERE, UH, AND, AND CENTERING ON THE HOME.

UH, MR. VANNESS, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT, THAT WAS THE TECHNICAL THOUGHT BEHIND IT.

BUT, UH, YEAH, IT, IT, IT ALSO HAS A 'CAUSE, UH, COSMETIC, UH, ORIGINALLY WE, WE'VE SEEN PICTURES, UH, FROM THIS HOUSE BACK IN THE, UH, LATE 18 HUNDREDS, AND IT HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.

SO WE WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO ACTUALLY GIVE SOMETHING BACK, YOU KNOW, TO THE HOUSE OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROFILE.

IT, IT HAD A CIRCLE OF, UH, LOOP IN THE MIDDLE THERE.

THEN IT HAD ACTUALLY THE HOUSE, THE ORIGINAL HOUSE ACTUALLY HAD A PORTICO ON THE SIDE RIGHT IN

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FRONT OF WHERE THE, UH, THE GARAGE IS NOW.

SO THERE WAS A CIRCLE IN THE FRONT AND A PORTICO ON THE SIDE.

MR. UM, DID, DID THE, UH, THIS, UM, SKETCH, UM, YOU HAVE THAT SKETCH AVAILABLE FOR THE HISTORIC BOARD, BY THE WAY? UH, IT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, MRS. CLARK ACTUALLY BROUGHT THAT UP WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.

UM, YEAH, I'M SURE YOU GUYS WILL KNOW MRS. CLARK.

SHE'S THE TOWN HISTORIAN AND THE PREVIOUS OWNER, UM, IT, IT'S IN THE BOOK THAT SHE HAD WRITTEN.

WE'LL PROVIDE A COPY, WE'LL PROVIDE A COPY WITH OUR NEXT GOOD.

GOOD.

SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT IT.

LOOK, THE, THE REASON, THE REASON I ASK ABOUT THAT IS THAT THAT'S A LOT OF ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

UM, I, I SORT OF UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPLANATION.

A COUPLE OF POINTS.

FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU GO INTO THE GARAGE, HOW DO YOU BACK OUT? IS THERE A WAY TO TURN THE CAR AROUND AND COME BACK DOWN TOWARDS FORT HILL ROAD? IS THERE LIKE A LITTLE L I I THERE'S NO L I MEAN, IS THERE NO, NO.

RIGHT.

SO THE ISSUE, THE ISSUE WITH, UH, WITH DOING A HAMMER, WELL, WE CALL IT A HAMMERHEAD, WHICH IS, YEAH, I COULDN'T YOU SEE HERE, RIGHT? UM, IS WE WOULD THEN ENCROACH ON THE SIDE YARD SETBACK, WHICH IS, UH, NOT ALLOWED FOR CODE.

SO, UH, YES, THERE IS ROOM TO GET A VEHICLE TO, TO BACK A VEHICLE UP HERE AND, YOU KNOW, TURN AROUND AND COME OUT THIS WAY.

MM-HMM.

, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT COMFORTABLE.

IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IDEAL, BUT IT, IT WORKS.

SO, UH, YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YOU CAN DO THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL.

AND, AND ONE OF THE, WE WANNA CREATE COMFORT BY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL AREA HERE SO THAT IT, WE MAKE SURE THAT ANY CAR CAN PULL OUT HEADFIRST INTO FORT HILL AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BACKING OUT INTO A .

YEAH.

THE OTHER, THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS THAT, THAT, THAT ROUNDABOUT IS 15 FEET WIDE.

I MEAN, THAT'S ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS TO GET BY EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, DOES IT HAVE TO BE 15 FEET? JUST SO NOTHING TO CONSIDER.

I I KNOW YOU WANNA PARK CARS THERE.

I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE AN OVERFLOW CROWD, THEY COULD ALWAYS PARK THERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.

WHEELS ON GRASS OR SOMETHING.

JUST CONSIDER IT, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

UM, IF IT WERE ME, I'D RATHER LOOK AT LAWN THAN ASPHALT.

SO JUST THINK ABOUT MAYBE NARROWING THE ROADWAY AROUND THAT TURNAROUND.

WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST? I'M NOT AN ENGINEER 15 FEET.

WELL, UM, WE CAN HANDLE IT.

I, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY REDUCE THE WIDTH, UH, IN THAT AREA.

I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

WELL, THERE IS A REASON.

THERE IS A REASON FOR IT.

IF YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF CARS PARKED IN THE ROUNDABOUT, YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO GET BY THEM.

SO THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND MICHAEL'S POINT, YOU, IT'S A, IT IS A LOT OF SURFACE.

IT'S ACTUALLY WHAT, 35 FEET IN DIAMETER? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? ACROSS THAT ROUND ROUNDABOUT, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.

PLUS OR MINUS, YEAH, A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT MORE.

MAYBE A LITTLE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.

RIGHT.

UM, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN THAT MIDDLE PART? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE COULD DRIVE OVER? NO, THAT'S SO THAT IF THERE WAS A CAR PARKED IN THE SIDE, IF YOU DID NARROW IT TO, TO MICHAEL'S POINT, OR IS THAT GONNA BE LIKE A FOUNTAIN OR SOMETHING? IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE A FOUNTAIN, YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

BUT HUGH, WHAT, UH, ANOTHER, ANOTHER, UH, THING THAT WE COULD DO IS TO, UH, MAKE, MAKE THE, THE ROUNDABOUT DIAMETER NARROWER, BUT THEN PUT POROUS PAVERS TO BRING THE WIDTH OUT.

SO YOU COULD STILL PUT TWO CARS ON, BUT, UH, THREE FEET OR WHATEVER THE APPROPRIATE WIDTH WOULD BE.

POROUS PAVERS.

THAT'S ANOTHER.

SO WHAT YOU'RE, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LIKE TAKE THE FIRST 10 FEET FOR, UH, FIRST EIGHT FEET OR WHATEVER, UH, THAT'S NEXT TO WHERE THE LAWN IS, MAKE THOSE POROUS PAVERS.

RIGHT.

AND THE REST OF IT BEING, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT THEY DO WITH, WHETHER THAT BE BLOCK OR, OR ASPHALT OR WHATEVER THEY DECIDE.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THEN YOU WILL STILL, THE APPLICANT STILL WILL HAVE THE BENEFIT.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

HAVING EXTRA CAUSE AND THEN, BUT THEN YOU HAVE SOME BENEFIT OF THE POROUS PAVERS, RIGHT? YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

YEAH, I, UH, I'M NOT SO SURE.

LIKE I SAID, A AFTER THE FIRST 10 OR 15 FEET OF PULLING INTO THE DRIVEWAY, I MAY MAKE IT ALL PAVERS ANYWAY IN THERE, THE REST OF THE WAY IN BECAUSE IT, UH, IT'S TOO MUCH BLACK TOP IN MY, IN MY FRONT YARD, I THINK, UM, TO, OKAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING MR. VANNESS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REGULAR PAVERS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POROUS PAVERS WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY GROW SOMETHING THROUGH IT.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

IT'LL INCORPORATE, WE'LL DEFINITELY INCORPORATE SOMETHING THAT CREATES MORE VEGETATION AND A GREEN LOOK, UH, TO THE BEST WE CAN WHILE STILL, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING FUNCTION, UH, FUNCTIONALITY.

OKAY.

WELL, SO THAT

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THE, THE THING, THE THING IS, YOU REALLY DO NEED TO GET THAT, THAT DOWN PAT, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA AFFECT YOUR DRAINAGE, YOUR DRAINAGE PLAN AS WELL.

UNDERSTOOD.

SO, OKAY.

SO WE NEED, WE NEED TO SEE EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOVING PARTS ARE RELATED, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT THEY ARE OH, ABSOLUTELY.

ONCE ONE CHANGES THE OTHER.

SO YEAH, WE WILL, WE'LL MAKE AN, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S TOO MUCH ASPHALT.

WE WILL BE ADJUSTING THAT, UH, ACCORDINGLY FOR THE NEXT SUBMITTAL AND ANYTHING THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT.

YEAH.

STORM WATER DISTURBANCE AREA, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

OKAY.

UM, SO YOU'LL HAVE A, A CLEAR PICTURE ON, ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OR HOW WE'RE REMEDIATING THAT ISSUE.

OKAY.

NEXT TIME YOU SEE THIS, I HAVE, I'M SORRY, YOU FI NO, I'M DONE.

YES.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO, WHAT IS THE SLOPE OF THE DRIVEWAY? IS IT SLOPING TOWARDS THE HOUSE OR TOWARDS THE STREET? BECAUSE I ASKED THAT BECAUSE IF THE WATER IS RUNNING OFF THE DRIVEWAY TOWARDS THE STREET, THEN THE QUESTION SHOULD IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF CATCH BASIN AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR DRIVEWAY.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO IT DOES SLOPE FROM, UH, THE GARAGE OR FROM FROM THE HOUSE TOWARD THE STREET.

AND IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT WE CAPTURE OUR STORM WATER ON THE PROPERTY.

SO THERE WILL BE SOME TYPE OF DRAIN INLET, WHETHER IT BE A SLOT DRAIN OR, UH, YOU KNOW, A DRAINAGE INLET, REGULAR WATER QUALITY.

AND THAT CAPTURES THE RUNOFF PRIOR TO GOING INTO FORT HILL ROAD.

YES.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM, UH, BOARD MEMBERS? YEAH, WALTER, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE, THE TREE, THE TREES THAT YOU ARE REMOVING, UH, WITH A NEW DRIVEWAY AND, UH, ALSO IN THE, UH, PROPOSED HOUSE ON A, UH, SUBDIVISION.

UH, NEXT, NEXT TO IT.

UH, DID YOU LOOK INTO IT THAT YOU CAN SIT, UM, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE WAS A, THESE TREES NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.

THEY'RE NOT IN A GOOD SHAPE, OR YOU JUST DOING IT FOR AESTHETIC PURPOSE OR, UH, WHAT, JUST GIMME THE REASON FOR LIKE YOU REMOVING ABOUT THREE, UH, 5, 6, 9.

YEAH, NINE ON, ON ONE ON THE EXISTING HOUSE.

OH, I'M SORRY.

AND THE PROPOSED YOU ARE DOING ABOUT, UH, SO IT'S SIX, SIX ON THE PROPOSED THREE ON THE EXISTING, OH, NO, I'M SORRY.

THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE ON THE EXISTING.

MORE.

IT'S MORE, YEAH, I'M SORRY, THERE'S MORE.

THERE'S, THERE'S SEVEN ON THE EXISTING, I'M SORRY.

UM, IT'S 13, SO 13.

YEAH.

SO THE MAIN THE MAIN, I'M SORRY, YOU FINISH, FINISH YOUR QUESTION.

SO MY QUESTION IS THAT HAVE YOU LOOKED, UH, WITH OUR ARBORISTS THAT, UH, UH, IS THIS TREES NEEDS TO BE, UH, UH, IN A SHAPE THAT THEY HAS TO BE REMOVED IN LIKE NEXT, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER THE CRITERIA IS, AARON, BUT AARON, YOU CAN SORT OF HELP THAT TO GUIDE US THAT WHETHER THESE ARE ESSENTIAL TO BE REMOVED.

AND THE SECOND QUESTION, IF IT IS NOT, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN SAY BY, UH, PROPOSING THE DRIVEWAY COMING IN IN A, IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LOCATION? RIGHT.

SO I'VE BEEN OUT TO THE SITE, UH, MORE THAN ONCE, THE TREES THAT ARE COMING OUT, UH, TO INSTALL THE NEW DRIVEWAY TO THE EXISTING HOME AT THE FRONT THERE BY THE WALL ARE, UH, AND AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER TREES ARE NORWAY, MAPLE TREES, WHICH ARE AN INVASIVE SPECIES.

THEY'RE NOT HIGHLY PRIED.

UH, I KNOW THAT THE ONE TREE THAT THE BOARD HAD BEEN CONCERNED WITH PREVIOUSLY, WHICH IS TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF EVEN WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE MAY RECALL, THAT THE ORIGINAL DRIVEWAY THAT WAS SHOWN TO THE EXISTING HOUSE WAS A STRAIGHT DRIVEWAY FROM THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE HOUSE OUT TO FORT HILL ROAD.

AND I WAS OUT THERE WITH MR. GOLDEN AND THERE'S A LARGE MATURE BEACH TREE ON THAT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THERE WAS CONCERN WITH THAT BEING REMOVED AND IF THERE WAS A POTENTIAL TO SAVE THAT TREE AS ONE OF THE NICEST ON THE PROPERTY, MR. GOLDEN, CORRECT ME IF YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY, AND IN THIS CASE WITH THIS REORIENTATION, THEY ARE ELIMINATING SOME OF THE LESS PRIZED TREES, NOT THE, UH, TREES THAT ARE NOT IN AS GOOD CONDITION AND, UM, SOME OF WHICH ARE INVASIVE SPECIES.

SO I THINK THAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH A GOOD PLAN, PLAN THAT PRESERVES THAT, THAT REALLY NICE TREE ON THE PROPERTY, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK THAT AS THE RIGHT TREE, THE ONE HE WAS JUST PANNING THE CURSOR OVER.

MM-HMM.

, UH, WE WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT

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TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE NEW REQUIREMENTS OR THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NEW TOWN TREE ORDINANCE, BUT I THINK THEY'VE, THEY'VE PAID PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO PRESERVING TREES THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO AND, AND THE BEST OF THE BUNCH, IF I KNOW.

OKAY.

BUT ANY OTHER, BUT ANY, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST ADD ONE THING.

I MEAN THE, THE, THE PLANTINGS ON THE PROPERTY LINE, AND I THINK ALSO TO THE SOUTH OF THAT, UM, I WOULD DEFER TO AARON ON THIS, BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD BE STAGGERED IF THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING RATHER THAN A STRAIGHT LINE.

AND, UM, YOU COULD PLANT THEM A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.

YOU CAN GET A SCREENING MORE QUICKLY.

JUST THE THOUGHT.

AARON, I DEFER TO YOU ON THAT.

WE'LL, WE'LL SPEAK TO THAT.

YEAH.

AND ALSO TOGETHER, I'M SORRY, YOUR HONOR.

UH, WE ARE, SINCE WE HAVE TO MEET THE NEW, UH, TREE ORDINANCE, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE REVISITED.

SO, UH, I'M SURE THAT WILL COME UP IN THE DISCUSSION WITH, WITH AARON AT THAT TIME.

BY THE WAY, THANK YOU FOR THE BEACH.

IT'S A GORGEOUS TRIP.

YEAH, THANKS.

I DID WANT TO ADD ONE MORE COMMENT.

IF THERE WERE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM A BOARD MEMBER MM-HMM.

, YOU MAY SEE THAT THE NEW PROPERTY LINE THAT'S PROPOSED TO DIVIDE THE LOT, SO IT WOULD BE THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE FOR, FOR EACH OF THE TWO LOTS IS HAS A A, A JOG IN IT AS IT GOES OUT TO FORT HILL ROAD.

THE CODE INDICATES THAT SIDE PROPERTY LINES SHALL BE AT RIGHT ANGLE, UH, TO THE ROADWAY.

UM, IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT IT.

UH, THEY WOULD BE SEEKING A WAIVER FROM THE BOARD.

THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE SUBDIVISION REGS.

THERE'S ALSO AN ALTERNATE LAYOUT, WHICH MR. CCHI FOLEY'S SHOWING NOW, BUT IN THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH HIS OFFICE EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, GREG, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO COLOR THAT DIFFERENTLY? IT'S FAIRLY FAINT ON MY END.

SURE.

YELLOW.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

SO WHAT, UH, WAS INDICATED TO ME BY MR. UR IS THIS ALTERNATE LAYOUT, WHICH MR. KACI IS GONNA SHOW NOW IS, IS NOT PREFERABLE.

UM, AND THAT THEY WOULD BE SEEKING THE LAYOUT THAT, UH, IS SHOWN IN THE CURRENT PLAN.

SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT JOG AS HE'S DRAWING IT NOW, THAT'S ONE WAY TO DESIGN A PLAN THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT FOR A RIGHT ANGLE FROM THE STREET.

BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE JOG THERE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ABNORMAL AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE BOARD HOW IT WISHES TO PROCEED.

AARON, IS THERE A FRONTAGE ISSUE? WHY CAN'T YOU COME STRAIGHT DOWN? YES.

THERE, SO THERE IS A LOT WITH ISSUE.

UH, THEY, THE LOT WIDTH AT THE, AT THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE IS ABOUT 228 FEET AND CHANGE.

ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU ADD ALL THOSE TOGETHER, AND THEY DO NEED TWO 40, BUT YOU CAN PULL A LOT WITH DIMENSION EITHER AT THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE OR AT THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE SETBACK.

AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT THEY'VE LAID IT OUT SUCH THAT THEY CAN PULL ONE OF THE LOT LINES FROM THE, THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE AND THE OTHER FROM FRONT SETBACK.

OKAY.

I'M CONFUSED.

HOLD ON.

I'M CONFUSED.

IF YOU DO IT FROM THE SETBACK, WHY DO YOU, WHY CAN'T YOU DO THE STRAIGHT, STRAIGHT LINE DOWN? I'M, I'M DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IF, IF YOU DO BOTH FROM THE SETBACK, IF YOU DO IT FROM THE, FROM THE SETBACK, HERE WE GO.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT CLEARLY RIGHT.

SO IF I MAY, SO THE, UH, THE REQUIREMENT IS 120 FEET OF, OF FRONTAGE AND IT CAN EITHER BE MEASURED AT THE 30 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK OR AT THE STREET.

SO IN ORDER TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LOT WIDTH FOR EITHER LOT, WE WOULD HAVE TO MEASURE ONE AT THE SETBACK AND THEN GOT IT ONE AT THE STREET IN ORDER TO MEET THAT 120 FOOT REQUIREMENT.

THAT WAS OKAY.

THAT WAS THE ISSUE.

I SEE.

OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND OUR CODE ALLOWS IT, UH, 'CAUSE THIS IS NOT UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE, IT'S NOT A VARIANCE WOULD NOT GO TO THE Z B A, BUT IT ALLOWS THE PLANNING BOARD TO ALLOW FOR A WAIVER OR, UH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, VARIANCE OF THE, UH, REQUIREMENT.

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BUT IT'S NOT, IT WOULD NOT BE A FORMAL VARIANCE.

SO IT CERTAINLY CAN BE DONE.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO DO IT.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSED THIS WAY.

I WILL NOTE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF IN THE APPLICANT'S FAVORITE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIDE, UM, UH, ON, ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, IT LOOKS LIKE ON ONE SIDE IT'S SLIGHTLY ABOVE 90 DEGREES ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND ON THE LEFT SIDE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SLIGHTLY UNDER 90 DEGREES.

IF THOSE ARE ACCURATE, IT LOOKS A LITTLE LIKE A PARALLELOGRAM, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT IT MAKES, YOU KNOW, MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

UM, THAT'S THE WAY THEY PROPOSED IT IN, YOU KNOW, AARON ASPEN AND INDICATE THAT THEY PREFER TO GO THAT ROUTE.

THAT SHOULD BE, YEAH, THAT'S UP TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO DECIDE.

CORRECT.

I MEAN, AN ADDITIONAL WE BOARD TO BE, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS APPLICATION? YEAH, WONDER I HAVE ONE QUESTION SINCE THEY HAVE SENT IT IN THIS PACKAGE ABOUT THE, UH, HISTORICAL AND LANDMARK PRESERVATION BOARD.

YEAH.

MY QUESTION TO MR. VAN ASKED IS THAT, HAVE THEY MET ALL THE CONDITIONS, UH, REQUESTED BY HISTORICAL PRESERVATION BOARD? YES.

WE SENT THE LETTER, UH, ABOUT ALL THE REFURBISHED STUFF THAT WE SENT IN THAT WE DIDN'T KEEP OR THAT WE DIDN'T STORE.

I STILL HAVE, THAT WAS SENT IN, UH, I GUESS A MONTH AGO, AARON, I THINK I I SENT IT TO YOU GUYS OR MAYBE A MONTH AND A HALF AGO.

AND THEN ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE WINDOWS WERE MET BY THE REQUIREMENT.

YES, THAT WAS SO WHAT ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION? HAVE THEY SEEN THE SUBDIVISION PLAN? NO.

NO.

DO THEY HAVE, DO YOU NEED TO? I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

I MEAN, THEY KNOW THAT IT IS, IT IS GOING TO BE DONE, BUT I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA FOR APPLICANT TO KIND COORDINATE THAT.

HEY, DARREN, WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY LEGALLY? DO THEY NEED TO SEND IT, SEND THE SUBDIVISION OR DAVE? NO, THEY DON'T NEED TO DO THAT FOR SUBDIVISION.

NO, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT.

NOT WITH, BUT LET'S, YEAH, LET'S GO THROUGH HISTORICALLY WHAT HAPPENED TO USE THE WORD WHEN THEY CAME IN FRONT OF US TO THE SUBDIVISION, WE ENCOURAGED THEM.

ACTUALLY, WE TOLD THEM TO GO IN FRONT OF THE HISTORIC BOARD.

SO THEY, SO THEY HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF THE HISTORIC BOARD.

THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE, STARK BOARD MIGHT NOT HAVE SEEN THE PLAN THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.

SMART BOARD WAS CERTAINLY AWARE THAT THIS WAS FOR SUB BECAUSE WE MADE SURE THAT IT WENT TO THAT.

BUT, BUT DAVID, THAT'S CORRECT.

GOOD IDEA TO SEE THE NEW HOUSE THAT'S GOING BE PUT INTO IT, BECAUSE I THINK THE, UH, LANDMARK, UH, BOARD LOOKS AT IT AS JUST ONLY ONE HOUSE.

SO I I I THINK IT COULD NOT HURT THE APPLICANT TOO.

REALLY? YEAH.

UH, WELL ACTUALLY AGAIN, BECAUSE IT TOOK ME FOUR MONTHS TO GET THROUGH THE BOARD THE FIRST TIME, SO WELL, WELL, WHAT, OKAY, WHAT I SUGGEST, WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES, YOU SEND IT TO THEM AND IF THEY CHOOSE TO MAKE A COMMENT AT THE HEARING, THEY COULD DO SO, BUT I AM NOT INCLINED TO POSTPONE THE HEARING, UH, UH, BASED UPON WHEN THEY GET BACK TO US, I SAY WE GIVE THEM INFORMATION, BUT, UH, WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD ON THE APPLICATION AND NOT THAT A, A PROHIBITION FOR SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING.

WALTER, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK YOU MAY BE OPENING A CAN OF WORMS. WE DON'T WANNA OPEN.

WHY IS THAT? WHY IS THAT? I JUST, AARON, DID YOU WANT I WANT TO HEAR WHAT AARON HAS TO SAY THEN I'LL FINISH MY COMMENT.

GO AHEAD, AARON.

I WAS, I WAS ONLY GONNA STATE THAT, UH, THE HISTORIC BOARD WAS MADE AWARE OF THE SUBDIVISION.

SO IT CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

MY THOUGHT WAS, OR ONE THOUGHT IS THAT, AND THE BOARD'S DONE THIS BEFORE WHERE, BECAUSE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. VANDE, BUT THE INTENT IS NOT TO, IT'S TO CONTINUE WITH THE SUBDIVISION BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN PROPOSED BY THE FORMER OWNER.

BUT YOUR INTENT, AGAIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT'S NOT TO, UH, SELL THIS LOT OFF IMMEDIATELY AND HAVE IT DEVELOPED.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, 90% I, UNLESS LOOK, IF I CAN DEVELOP THE PROPERTY AT A REASONABLE RATE, WHICH RIGHT NOW PRICES OF THE CONSTRUCTION STUFF IS RIDICULOUS, SO I DON'T PROCEED STARTING A HOUSE NEXT WEEK ON IT OR NO, NEXT MONTH IN THE FUTURE, I'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER SELL IT OR DEVELOP IT.

UM, WELL, ONE THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT, AND THE BOARD'S DONE THIS AS I MENTIONED, WHICH IS ONCE THE HOUSE PLANS ARE DESIGNED, THAT THEY SUBMIT THOSE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS TO THE PLANNING BOARD, POSSIBLY THE HISTORIC BOARD, UH, FOR REVIEW PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT

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ISSUE.

BUT NOT ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, DELAYED THE SUBDIVISION THAT WELL, WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

THE, THEIR J THE HISTORIC BOARD'S JOB IS PRESERVED BUILDINGS.

OKAY.

HISTORIC BUILDINGS.

OKAY.

THAT'S THEIR JOB.

THE JOB IS NOT TO BE AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD FOR A NEW PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S LEGALLY SUBDIVIDED.

CONSEQUENTLY, IF THEY WANT TO SHOW UP IN COMMENT ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, AS WALTER SAID, THEY ARE WELCOME.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD DO IS NOTICE THEM AND SAY IT'S UP FOR SUB WHEN, WHEN WE DECIDE TO GO TO HEARING.

I DON'T THINK, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS, WE'RE NOT READY TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARING IS TOO MANY MOVING PARTS YET, BUT I'D LIKE AT LEAST ONE MORE MEETING BEFORE A HEARING.

BUT THAT'S IT.

I WOULD, I WOULD NOTICE THEM TO COME TO COME TO THE BOARD.

I, I READ, I READ WHAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND THE WAY THEY, THEY WORKED SO HARD WITH THE HISTORIC BOARD AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE AND, AND IT'S A, I MEAN, I REMEMBER WHEN THE THING CAME ON THE MARKET, I THINK I CALLED WALTER AND SAID, WHY ISN'T IT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IT WASN'T EVEN TARGETED AT THE TIME ON THE, BY THE HISTORIC BOARD.

I THINK I MENTIONED THAT TOO AT THE TIME, WALTER, WHEN IT CAME ON THE MARKET.

UM, SO, BUT THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE HAD LOTS OF MEETINGS WITH THEM ON THE STRUCTURE, BUT COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE STRUCTURE, I THINK AS OF JANUARY 6TH, LEAVE THAT ALONE.

IF THEY WANT TO COMMENT ON THE LANDSCAPING OR WHATEVER ON THE THING, THEY'RE WELCOME TO DO SO.

LIKE ANYBODY ELSE AT THE, AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, IT'LL BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM THEM, PERIOD.

THAT IS THE ONLY THING I WOULD NOT ASK THEM TO GO BACK IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO THE HISTORICAL BOARD IF THEY, IF THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED.

TOTALLY AGREE.

I I THINK THAT, AS I SAID BEFORE, THEY'RE WELCOME.

THEY, THEY KNOW THAT WHATEVER DATE WE SET FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEY'RE NOTIFIED OF THAT DATE.

AND IF THEY CHOOSE TO COMMENTATE THE TRAUMA.

NOW IN TERMS OF, OF, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, THINGS THAT WE REQUIRED THE APPLICANT TO DO.

UH, WHEN, SO WHEN DO YOU FEEL THE APPLICANT FEEL THAT THEY WILL HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION AVAILABLE? UM, IT'S A REASONABLE DATE.

I MEAN, THE, THE, WELL, UH, I JUST WANTED A QUICK QUESTION.

SO I, ME AND GREG WILL HAVE TO DESIGN HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THE DRIVEWAY BUILT, AND ARE WE GENERALLY OKAY WITH THE ROUNDABOUT IN THE CIRCLE? BECAUSE IF, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA BE OKAY WITH THAT, I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT DESIGN AND, YOU KNOW, THE BOSS OF MY HOUSE IS MY WIFE.

WE HAVE, I'LL LET TAKE A, JUST TAKE A STRAW VOTE, BUT WHAT'S THE FEELING OF THE BOARD ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT FOREST PAPERS TO, AS A COMPROMISE TO ALLOW THE USE OF MORE THAN ONE CAR AT THE SAME TIME DECREASING THE IMP IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

UH, I LIKE TO TAKE A STRONG VOTE ON THAT.

HOW DOES THAT, TO GIVE THE APPLICANT SOME DIRECTION? SO YOU DON'T WANT TO, I AGREE.

YOU SHOULDN'T GO OUT AND DESIGN SOMETHING IF, IF, IF WE REALLY DON'T FEEL THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE APPROACH.

SO I'LL, I'LL START.

I SAID I LIKE THE, I ACTUALLY LIKE THE ROUNDABOUT.

I THINK IT FITS WITH THAT HOUSE VERY, VERY WELL.

I DO AM SENSITIVE TO WHAT MICHAEL'S COMMENT WAS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

SO I, THE, I WOULD VOTE FOR THE ROUNDABOUT WITH THE PROVISO THAT YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT PERVIOUS PS IS A WAY OF REDUCING THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE , CORRECT? I THINK, UH, UH, I WOULD KIND OF, UH, DEFER THE, UH, I MEAN I LIKE THE CONCEPTUALLY IT MAKES IT A NICE, UH, ENTRANCE TO THE HISTORIC HOUSE WITH THE, UH, WOULD PROBABLY, UH, I THINK A, UH, FOUNTAIN OR SOME KIND OF FEATURE THAT DOES IT.

BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF SEE AS WHAT MICHAEL'S AND HUGS COMMENT IS THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE SIZE AND THE TYPE OF PAYMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO PROPOSE WITH IT.

UH, AND IF YOU CAN REDUCE THIS, THE PREVIOUS, UH, SURFACES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY, SO, SO, BUT, BUT MY, OKAY, SO I JUST WANT TO, I LIKE THE CONCEPT.

YES.

WHAT WE ARE DOING IS THAT WE ARE SAYING THAT WE, UH, THE CIRCLE IS ACCEPTABLE PROVIDING YOU COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO REDUCE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING, AND, AND YOU COULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, HE DOES NOT WANT TO SPEND TIME ON THE CIRCLE.

IF, IF AT, IF THEY'RE DOING ALL THIS DESIGN WORK, WE SAID, NO, WE DON'T LIKE IT.

SO ALL WE ARE DOING

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IS GIVING THE APPLICANT SOME DIRECTION THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO STAY WITH THE, UH, THE CIRCLE, THEN YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

SO THE, SO THE STRAW VOTE IS, IS THAT THE RIGHT DIRECTION WE SHOULD GIVE THE APPLICANT? AND I FEEL THAT IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT I WOULD VOTE ALSO TO DO THAT.

SO, AND WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, UH, TO, I AGREE I LIKE THE CIRCLE.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD TOUCH FOR THE HOUSE.

I ALSO, UM, WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S AS MUCH OUS AS POSSIBLE, SO AS WE EXPLORE THAT.

OKAY.

AND, UH, MICHAEL, WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE HE AGREES WITH ME.

OKAY.

.

OKAY.

JOHAN AND, AND MONA? YEAH, DEFINITELY KEEP THE CIRCLE AND LOOK INTO, UH, REDUCING IMPERVIOUS SERVICE AND, OKAY.

AND MONA, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE CIRCLE BECAUSE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL, UM, TOUCH THAT IT'S ADDING TO THE PLAN, AND ALSO I FEEL THAT IT'LL MAKE HIS WIFE HAPPY.

SO LET'S KEEP .

THANK YOU.

SO, SO I HOPE THAT DID GAVE YOU SOME DIRECTION OF WHERE YOU NEED TO GO.

YES.

AND THEN DEPENDING UPON, UH, UM, HOW SOON YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION AND, AND THE EXTENT OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, THEN AT THAT POINT WE'LL MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER NEED ANOTHER, UH, UH, WORK SESSION OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU PROVIDED ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT I FEEL, YOU KNOW, FEEL COMFORTABLE TO GO STRAIGHT TO, UH, THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IT'S UP TO YOU TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION FOR US.

AND THAT WILL DETERMINE WHETHER NEED A WORK, ANOTHER WORK SESSION, AND WE GO STRAIGHT, STRAIGHT INTO A PUBLIC HEARING.

GREAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

NOW, GREG AND I CAN WORK ON, ON A DESIGN FOR THAT FOR YOU.

THAT'LL MAKE EVERYBODY .

OKAY.

SO YOU MAKE SURE YOU STAY IN CONTACT WITH DEPUTY SMITH, AND HE WILL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

AND BASED UPON THE INFORMATION I GET FROM HIM, I, I'LL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER WORK SESSION FOR PUBLIC HEARING IS APPROPRIATE.

GREAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

AND ADAM, ALSO, I WOULD ADD THAT PLEASE, UH, PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SAVED THE SKETCH OF ORIGINAL, UH, HOUSE.

YEAH, I WROTE, I TOOK SOME NOTES ON, UH, ON EVERYTHING THAT WAS MENTIONED, UH, IN THE MEETING.

I'LL BE DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO GET THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, BACK WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK MAXIMUM.

SO, UH, OKAY.

JUST, JUST KEEP AARON, HIS AARON, ABSOLUTELY BE INFORMED, UH, AND THEN WE'LL SCHEDULE ACCORDING.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHTY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MUCH.

ALRIGHT, BYE-BYE.

OKAY, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON SCHEDULE.

A LITTLE RUN.

TWO MINUTES, UH, BEHIND, UH, OUR NEXT CASE IS PB 2106, AND THAT'S P UH, P B 2104.

UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH, COULD YOU INTRODUCE THE PROJECT? YES, THANK YOU, CHAIRPERSON SIMON.

SO, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD WILL BE HAVING A CONTINUATION OF A WORK SESSION FROM ITS JUNE 2ND, 2021 MEETING TO DISCUSS AN AMENDED SITE PLAN, WHICH, UH, INVOLVED THE TOWN BOARD APPROVAL AND WAS REFERRED TO THE PLANNING BOARD, ALSO A TOWN BOARD TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATION PLANNING BOARD PERMIT FROM WETLAND WATER FORCE PERMIT APPLICATION, UM, IN CONNECTION WITH REGENERON PROPOSAL AT 7 7 7 OLD SAW MILL RIVER ROAD, T O, TERRYTOWN, NEW YORK.

UM, I'M GONNA LEAVE THE PRESENTING TO THE APPLICANT'S TEAM.

UH, THEY DID GIVE A LENGTHY PRESENTATION AND A GOOD OVERVIEW OF THINGS LAST TIME.

WE'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO US ON THAT.

AND THEN, UH, THE BOARD, UH, PROCEDURALLY WOULD CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LIKE STAFF TO, UH, PREPARE A RECOMMENDATION FOR CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE MEETING.

SO I THINK THAT'S A DIRECTION THEN THE APPLICANT WILL MOVE THROUGH WITH THE TOWN BOARD AND ULTIMATELY COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITS.

ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE DO HAVE MR. JOHN CANNING ON THIS MEETING AS WELL.

HE WAS HERE AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT TOWN TRAFFIC CONSULTANT FOR THIS PROJECT BEFORE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WELL, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M, UH, MARK WEINGARTEN, AND THANK YOU AARON.

UH, UH, AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING, REPRESENTING REGENERON INC.

IN CONNECTION WITH, UH, ITS CONTINUED REQUEST FOR, UH, VARIOUS PERMITS, WHICH WILL FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE

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AMENDED BUILDING, THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BUILDING TO 207,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, AT THE REGENERON CAMPUS.

7, 7 7 OLD STORM MILL ROAD ON THE PARCEL THAT WE REFERRED TO AS PARCEL D.

UH, WE WERE BEFORE YOU AT YOUR LAST MEETING, AND WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE APPROVALS THAT WE NEED.

WHAT'S BEFORE YOU, UH, ON RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR OUR REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION ON REFERRAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD IS OUR REQUEST FOR AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL, AS WELL AS OUR TREE REMOVAL PERMIT REQUEST THAT THE TOWN BOARD, UH, WE ARE ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY, UH, REQUESTING FROM YOU, UH, UH, PERMITS HAVING TO DO WITH STEEP SLOPES AND WETLANDS WATERCOURSE, UH, IN CONNECTION WITH THIS APPLICATION.

AND THERE IS A TANDEM APPLICATION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AND LIKE LAST TIME, WE WILL HANDLE IT TOGETHER THIS EVENING ON OUR PRESENTATION FOR TEMPORARY PARKING AND STAGING HAVING TO DO WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, UH, IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR PERMITS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

UH, TWO THINGS HAVE OCCURRED SINCE WE LAST MET WITH YOU.

UH, WE SUBMITTED A LETTER TO YOU ON JUNE 10, UH, WHICH WAS DEALT WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US BY THE, UH, BY YOUR BOARD AT OUR LAST MEETING.

UH, IN THAT LETTER, WE REFERENCED THE FACT THAT, UH, THERE WERE ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AT THE MEETING TONIGHT, AND WE INTEND TO DO SO WITH YOUR PERMISSION.

UH, ALSO YESTERDAY, UH, JUNE 15, WE SUBMITTED TO THE ZONING BOARD, AS WE TOLD YOU, WE WOULD AT OUR LAST MEETING, UH, TO THE Z B A FOR THE NECESSARY VARIANCES IN CONNECTION WITH THIS APPLICATION.

THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM.

THERE IS AN F A R VARIANCE AS THERE WAS THE LAST TIME WITH THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL.

THERE IS A REAR YARD SETBACK, UH, VARIANCE HAVING TO DO WITH THE BRIDGE THAT WE SHOWED YOU TO A ZERO SETBACK BECAUSE IT CROSSES OVER FROM PARCEL B TO THE LEE ROAD PROPERTY.

AND THERE'S ALSO A HEIGHT AND STORIES, UH, VARIANCE, WHICH WILL BE BEFORE THE Z B A AS WELL, UH, HAVING TO DO WITH THE GARAGE.

SO, UH, AT THIS POINT, MR. CHAIRMAN, ALSO, AS A MATTER OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UH, I'M JOINED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE THIS EVENING.

I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM.

YOU MET MANY OF THEM LAST TIME.

BOTH BEN SUZUKI AND GEORGE PO ARE HERE FROM GENERON, AS ARE A NUMBER OF OUR CONSULTANTS ON, UH, YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM, AS WELL AS MY PARTNER JANET GERIS.

I MENTIONED THAT I HAVE A HARD STOP AT 10 MINUTES TO SEVEN TONIGHT.

I HAVE THE, UH, PLEASURE AND PRIVILEGE OF HOSTING THE ZOOM MEETING FOR MY PARENTS 70TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY, WHICH IS TONIGHT.

SO I, I, I THANK YOU, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M GONNA MISS.

SO I'M GONNA BE ON UNTIL 10 TO SEVEN, AND JANET WILL BE HERE AS WELL AFTER AND FOR THE NEXT APPLICATION, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THEN I'LL CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR PARENTS.

I, I, I WOULD SAY THAT ANYONE THAT LASTS 70 YEARS, PARTICULARLY WITH THE CHILDREN THAT THEY HAD, I I, I WOULD SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO NORTH.

SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO IF, IF IT, IF IT PLEASES YOUR BOARD, I THINK WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, AND THE WAY WE DID THIS WAS WE PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION.

WE SEPARATED OUT THE QUESTIONS INTO CATEGORIES.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRST ONE BEING SUSTAINABILITY, THERE'S A ROAD WIDENING QUESTION, ET CETERA.

WE'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH IT ONE CATEGORY AT A TIME, DO A PRESENTATION FOR YOU, TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO THE NEXT, UH, EXPERT THAT MIGHT BE DOING THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PRESENTATION, IF THAT WORKS.

THAT WORKS.

THAT, THAT'S GREAT.

SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER NOW TO JAVIER GURAY, WHO IS THE, OUR ARCHITECT.

HE'S A PRINCIPAL OF FLAT ARCHITECTS, WHICH SUSTAIN HOW MANY CATEGORIES DO YOU HAVE? I WANNA FLIP IT BACK.

HOW MANY AND APPROXIMATELY HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THE PRESENTATION, EACH ONE OF THE CATEGORIES? LET'S SEE, 2, 4, 6, 7.

ONLY A FEW MINUTES.

SO IT'S, YOU'LL LET US GO THROUGH THE FACTS.

THE OTHER ONES ARE MORE SPECIFIC.

THANK JAVIER.

JAVIER, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING OR WE, I TURNED ON THE VIDEO, BUT I DIDN'T TURN ON.

SO THANK YOU, MARK.

THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THANKS FOR HAVING US AGAIN.

UM, VERY PROUD AGAIN TO BE, TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU AND, AND PART OF THIS BIG PROJECT, UM, EXCITING PROJECT.

SO YOU ASKED ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND COMMITMENT AND OUR, OUR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS FOR THE PROJECT.

SO JUST AS A MATTER OF, UH, INTRODUCTION, UH, WE LISTED THE AWARDS THAT, UH, REGENERON HAS WON ON SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE PAST FOUR, UH, FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.

YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL MENTION A COUPLE.

THE LAND USE WATER AWARD FROM THE GREEN BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP, UH, THAT'S A NON-PROFIT MEMBERSHIP

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ORGANIZATION THAT AWARDS OFFICIAL GREEN BUSINESS CERTIFICATION.

AND, UM, THE TOWN JONES SUSTAINABILITY WORLD INDEX TO BE PART OF THAT WORLD, UH, INDEX, THE COMPANIES ARE ASSESSED TO BE SELECTED, UH, BASED ON THEIR LONG-TERM ECONOMIC, SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSET MANAGEMENT PLANS.

UM, SENIOR AIR NEW YORK CHAMPION, UH, WINNER OF THE HUDSON VALLEY'S CAR FREE DAY, THE GREATEST NUMBER OF PARTICIPATING EMPLOYEES.

UH, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T MENTION EVERY OF THE LIST, BUT, BUT, UH, THIS, THIS KIND OF, UH, SHOWS THE, THE COMMITMENT THAT REGENERON HAS TO SUSTAINABILITY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, YOU ASKED ABOUT, UH, THE LEAD CERTIFICATION, UH, GOALS.

AND, UH, IN THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD, UH, WE STATED VERY CLEARLY THAT THE PROJECTS BEING DESIGNED TO MEET LEAD, UH, CERTIFICATION STANDARDS, UH, WE'RE TARGETING, UH, AND TRACKING ON LEAD SILVER.

UM, ALSO HAVE MENTIONED, UH, THE MOST, UH, RECENTLY COMPLETED REGENERON BUILDINGS, BUILDINGS EIGHT AND BUILDING NINE ARE LEAD GOLD, AND, UH, ALSO BUILDING TO HIS NEEDS OVER AS WELL.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, REGENERON CORE SUSTAINABILITY OBJECTIVES ARE BASED ON THREE MAJOR PRINCIPLES OR THREE MAJOR AREAS, RESOURCE PRESERVATION, BUILDING A COMMUNITY, WHICH THEY'RE VERY MUCH A PART OF HERE AT GREENBERG AND A HEALTHY WORKPLACE.

AND SO TO DO THAT, THEY INVEST IN RENEWABLE ENERGY, UH, INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS.

UH, THEY WELCOME INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS, ESPECIALLY EMISSIONS AND ENERGY CONSUMPTION, REDUCE LAB WASTE, COMPOST, FOOD WASTE, UH, MINIMIZE FRESH WATER USE, DESIGN, SUSTAINABLE LABORATORIES, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HERE, UH, UH, APPLYING FOR AND DESIGN A HEALTHY BUILDING FOR HEALTHY EMPLOYEES, WHICH WE KNOW IS VERY IMPORTANT AND BECOMING MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT EVERY DAY, UH, AND JUST BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, THE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES THAT ARE GOING ON, ON THE CAMPUS, UH, FOR, UH, AND FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL, OF COURSE INVOLVES SITE DESIGN, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, MINIMIZING IRRIGATION ON ARCHITECTURE.

UH, I'LL BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS IN A LATER SLIDE ABOUT THE ELECTROCHROMIC GLASS THAT WE'RE USING, UH, FOR THE PROJECT THAT REDUCES ENERGY USE IN GLARE, UH, ON RENEWABLE ENERGY AND RESILIENCE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MIX OF ONSITE PHOTOABLE TAGS AND RENEWABLE ENERGY PROCUREMENT AS WELL, AND A HUNDRED PERCENT STANDBY POWER AS WELL.

UH, WE'RE EVALUATING THE PHOTOABLE TAGS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT WELLNESS, UH, ANY, ANYWHERE FROM ERGONOMIC COMPUTER STATIONS, WELL-DESIGNED FUTURES WELL CAPITALIZED BY THE WELL BUILDING INSTITUTE IS WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO THERE.

UM, DECIDING WITH NON-TOXIC MATERIALS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT ENGINEERING ON THE ENGINEERING INITIATIVES AS WELL.

UH, ENVELOPE OPTIMIZATION, WHICH, UH, ELECTRO CHROME GLASS IS PART OF HEAT RECOVERY.

WE'LL GO THROUGH WHAT THAT, HOW, HOW WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THOSE, UM, AND, AND SEVERAL OTHER THINGS, UH, THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING ON ENERGY AND OF COURSE, COMPOSTING THE FOOD WASTE FROM OPERATION.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE ARE, UH, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING, UH, ASSIGNING ELECTRIC VEHICLE PARKING, UH, PROVIDING, UH, 5% OF THE PARKING WITH ELECTRICAL VEHICLES, UM, CHARGING STATION.

THERE IS A CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING BIKE TRAILS, AND WE'RE PROVIDING BIKE RACKS AND STORAGE ABILITIES, UH, CAPABILITIES.

AND THERE IS A SHUTTLE TO AND FROM THE TRAIN STATION IN WHITE PLAINS, AND THERE'S AN INTERNAL REGENERATOR REGENERON SITE, UM, SHUTTLE SERVICE AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE.

FROM THE, FROM THE SUSTAINABLE SITES, WE'RE MANAGING THE PRECIPITATION OF THE SIDE PROPOSING, UH, FUNCTIONAL STORMWATER FEATURES AND AMENITIES, IMPLEMENTING RAINWATER COLLECTION AS WELL, UH, MINIMIZING THE NEED FOR PERMANENT IRRIGATION BY SELECTING NATIVE SPECIES AND ADAPTED PLANTS, AND THE USE OF KNOWN POTABLE, UH, SOURCES OF WATER TO SUPPLY A PORTION OF THE OVERALL DEMAND.

ON THE RIGHT, YOU SEE A PICTURE OF A BIO RETENTION LANDSCAPING, UH, WHICH IS BEING PROPOSED AS WELL FOR, FOR WATER RETENTION, UM, ENERGY AND ATMOSPHERE AND ENGINEERED SYSTEMS. WE'RE LOOKING AT REDUCING ENERGY CONSUMPTION BY CREATING SMART BUILDINGS, UH, OPTIMIZING THE, UH, ENVELOPE WITH, UH, ELECTRO GLASS HEAT RECOVERY CHILLERS, UH, ELEC, UH, ELECTRONICALLY MUTATE MOTORS.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MY ACCENT.

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LE L E D LIGHTING AND CONTROLS, UM, PRODUCING, UH, CLEAR ENERGY EVALUATING, LIKE WE MENTIONED, WERE EVALUATING THE USE OF PHOTOVOLTAIC PANELS, AND WE ARE GOING TO USE THE TIER FOUR DIESEL GENERATORS TO RESPONSE.

SO THIS ALLOWS REGENERON TO RESPONSIBLY, UM, GENERATE, UH, EMERGENCY POWER AND PERHAPS, UH, EVEN FEED IT BACK TO THE GRID ON HIGH PEAK DEALS, UH, WHICH WAS THE NEXT SLIDE.

THAT REGENERON CAN RESPONSIBLY USE THE DIESEL GENERATORS DURING PEAK DEMAND DAYS TO REDUCE THE LOAD ON THE ELECTRICAL GRID.

UM, AND ALSO, UH, REVERSE THE DIRECTION OF THE, OF THE POWER IS WHAT THESE TIER FOUR GENERATORS ALLOW GENERATOR TO, UH, ALLOW REGENERON TO DO.

HEAT RECOVERY REDUCES THE ENERGY FOR THE, UH, H V A C, THE AIR CONDITIONING, UM, BASED ON THE LOW STUDIES FOR EACH TYPE.

UH, ON THE RIGHT YOU HAVE, UH, EXAMPLES OF HEAT RECOVERY SYSTEMS THAT WILL BE IN THE BUILDING.

UH, THEY RUN AROUND COILS AND, UH, AND RECIRCULATE THE HEAT BACK WITHOUT MIXING IN THE AIR.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A VERY EFFECTIVE WAY OF, UM, OF RECOVERING THE HEAT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PRODUCED, UM, WITHOUT EXTRACTING IT TO THE, TO THE ATMOSPHERE.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, WE'RE EVALUATING THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF MATERIALS, MAKING SURE THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF THE MATERIAL SELECTION IS, UH, REDUCED OR MINIMIZED.

UM, WE'RE DOING ALL THE ENERGY MODELING ON THE, ON THE BUILDING AS WELL, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, MAXIMIZING THE OPERATIONAL USE OF THE ENERGY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HEALTHIER MATERIALS, AVOIDING, UH, KNOWN HARMFUL INGREDIENTS IN THE MATERIALS.

CARPETS ARE A VERY WELL KNOWN SOURCE OF THOSE.

WE'RE AVOIDING PRODUCTS THAT HARM THE ENVIRONMENT, UH, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR RECYCLED OR REUSED REUSABLE MATERIALS.

SO, TO THE RIGHT, YOU SEE, UM, THE TYPES OF HOW WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THESE PRINCIPLES.

IT'S THE IMAGE OF THE, UH, OF THE BUILDING'S LOBBY, WHICH IS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, ABOUT SIGNS ON DISPLAY AND WE'RE IMPLEMENTING, UM, LIKE YOU SEE THERE, POINTING TO MATERIALS WITH HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCT DECLARATIONS, RECYCLED CONTENT FOR FLOORING AND, AND WOOD VENEERS THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE AS WELL.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE USE OF PHOTOABLE TAGS.

WE'RE CLEARLY EVALUATING THEM, UH, AND WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THE PAYBACK IS CORRECT, BUT REGENERON DOES HAVE A HISTORY OF, OF USING PHOTOABLE TAGS ON THE SITE.

YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT THEIR PARKING DECK, UH, BY, UH, 7, 9 9, AND THE PHOTOABLE TAGS THAT WERE INSTALLED THERE, UH, IN THE 2016 TIMEFRAME.

AND ON THE LEFT, YOU SEE AN IMAGE OF THE AREAS WE'RE EVALUATING FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO IT'S THE, UH, TOP LEVEL OF THE PARKING DECK, PRETTY MUCH LIKE PARKING DECK 7 99.

IT'S THE TOP ROOF, UH, PARTS OF THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE PENTHOUSES AND THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE.

THOSE ARE THE POTENTIALS THAT WE'RE EVALUATING FOR PHOTOVOLTAICS.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, WE TALKED ABOUT ELECTROCHROMIC GLASS.

AND THIS IS A, A VERY TECHNICAL GLASS, UH, WITH A SERIES OF COATINGS THAT REACT TO ELECTRICAL CHA CHARGE TO CREATE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TINT, REACTING TO THE SOLAR, UH, LOAD THAT'S, THAT'S HITTING THE GLASS AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S AN AMAZING PRODUCT WELL TESTED THAT LETS YOU, UH, MINIMIZE ENERGY WHEN THE SUN IS, IS HITTING IT HARD, BUT WHEN THE SUN ISN'T HITTING IT ON OVERCAST DAY, IT DOESN'T GO DARK, AND IT ALLOWS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF LIGHT INTO THE SPACE.

AND, UM, REGENERON IS, IS PROPOSING, WE'RE PROPOSING THIS FOR THE BUILDING AS WELL.

IT, IT CREATES A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT INSIDE BY MAXIMIZING NATURAL LABOR AND COMMITTED TO THE EMPLOYEE WILL WELLNESS THE GOAL AND OPPORTUNITIES.

EVERY GOAL IS, IS BEING ANALYZED IN WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TO MEET IT TO PROMOTE INDOOR AIR QUALITY.

DESIGNING TO THE STANDARDS OF LOW EMITTING MATERIALS, UH, HEALTHY MATERIAL STRATEGY, UH, PRIORITIZING MATERIALS WITH HELP, PRODUCT DECLARATIONS, LIKE WE SHOWED YOU IN THE IMAGES, UH, TO PROMOTE OCCUPANT PHYSICAL FITNESS.

WE'RE PROVIDING DESIGN ACTIVATED STAIRS.

YOU SAW THE LOBBY ITSELF.

WHEN YOU ENTER THE LOBBY, THE FIRST THING YOU SEE IS STAIRS.

THE STAIRS THEMSELVES FORM A PLACE

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FOR, UM, FOR COLLABORATION.

AND, AND THE ELEVATOR IS ACTUALLY HIDDEN BEHIND, SO PEOPLE WILL TEND TO TAKE, TAKE THE STAIRS.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT YOU, THAT YOU DO.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ERGONOMIC FURNITURE.

SIT TO STAND DESKS IS NOW, UH, THE NORM.

MOST OF THE DESKS THAT, THAT REGENERON INSTALLS OR SIT TO STAND DESK, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT EVEN THE USE OF TREADMILL OR, OR BICYCLE DESKS AS WELL.

UM, OCCUPANT CONTROLS.

ONE OF THE MAJOR, UH, IMPACTS, OR THE MAJOR EFFECTS OF, OF CONSIDERING WELL BUILDING, UM, TYPE OF DESIGNS IS THAT THE, THE OCCUPANTS GET TO CONTROL THEIR ENVIRONMENT AS WELL.

AND BIOPHILIC DESIGN.

THERE WAS A BIOPHILIC, UH, WALL THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING IN THE LOBBY OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.

AND LIGHTING DESIGN.

WERE HARVESTING NATURAL DAYLIGHT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN THE FIRST TIERS OF THE, IN THE FIRST, UH, 40 FEET OF THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.

UM, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S HOW, UM, HOPEFULLY THIS RESPONDS TO THE QUESTION ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND OUR GOALS ON SUSTAINABILITY.

ANY ADDITIONAL CO UM, JUST ONE COMMENT.

UM, YOU HAVE DIESEL BACKUP, UH, ENERGY SUPPLY.

HAVE YOU PLANNED TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT ANY ENERGY STORAGE BATTERIES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOUR FACILITY? RIGHT NOW, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT EVALUATING THE BATTERY STORAGE.

WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING THE TIER FOUR GENERATORS, UM, THAT LETS US USE THE, THE MOST SUSTAINABLE, UM, TECHNOLOGY, UH, FOR BEING ABLE TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE GRID.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE TO LO UH, LOOP ROAD WIDENING? IT'S NOT, LET'S, LET'S MOVE TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

.

I THINK JOHN CANNON HAD SOME COMMENTS ON THAT, OR I THINK WALTER, I, I, I STILL HAVE A COMMENT.

I HAD A COMMENT ON WHAT WE JUST SAW.

HOPEFULLY WE GO INTO THAT, PLEASE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, GREAT PRESENTATION, JAVIER AND OBVI.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS ARE GREAT NEIGHBORS.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE YOU IN GREENBURG.

UM, THE REASON FOR THE QUESTION, I WAS ONE WHO BROUGHT UP THE QUESTIONS OF SUSTAINABLE ENERGY, AND THERE'S A REASON YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT AS YOU GO FORWARD WITH YOUR PLANTS.

UM, WE ARE, AND WALTER ASKED ABOUT BATTERY STORAGE BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED IN TERMS OF OUR CODE OF HOW WE ARE GOING TO, FROM A LAND USE POINT OF VIEW, MANAGE, UH, NOT ONLY BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES.

WE ALREADY HAVE A LAW THAT IS PENDING, UH, WITH, UH, THE TOWN BOARD NOW, BUT ALSO WIND AND SOLAR.

UM, YOU HAVE A LARGE PROPERTY, SO IF YOU ARE DOING THINGS THAT MAY BE OFF THE ROOF, OKAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE ARE THOUGHTS ABOUT DOING THAT, UM, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT IN YOUR FINAL PLANS, IT WOULD BE NICE INFORMATION FOR US TO HAVE, BECAUSE WE WILL BE, I'M HOPING IN THE NEXT YEAR, FORMULATING NEW LAWS, NOW PASSING THE BATTERY LAW, HOPEFULLY BEFORE, BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE'LL GET THE BATTERY LAW PASSED, BUT ALSO HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, PASSING LAWS IN BOTH WIND AND SOLAR.

OKAY.

SO YOU GUYS COULD BE ACTUALLY HELP US OH, FORMULATE THOSE LAWS.

WE, WE ARE BIG PROPONENTS OF WORKING WITH, WITH, UH, THE TOWNS WE WORK IN, UM, MR. SCHWARZ.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING WHY YOU HAD ASKED THAT QUESTION, AND I'M SURE WE WILL.

WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE IMPLEMENTING IT, IF THAT HELPS YOU, UH, WRITE THE BOOK, NOT SO IT WOULD, YEAH, YEAH.

AND, AND FROM TIME TO TIME, WHEN WE APPROACH THESE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT REACH OUT TO YOU AND JUST ASK FOR YOUR OPINION AND INPUT BECAUSE, UH, OF, UH, OF ALL THE, UH, THE COMPANIES WITHIN THE TOWN, YOU SEEM TO BE ON THE LEADING, LEADING EDGE OF, UH, SUSTAINABILITY.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, DRAW ON THAT KNOWLEDGE.

SO EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT DOING IT YOURSELF, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, DRAW ON YOUR KNOWLEDGE.

SO , CLEARLY CL CLEARLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE, WE, WE, WE ARE CONSIDERING ALL OF THESE THINGS.

THAT'S THE POINT.

WE, WE CAN'T MAKE A COMMITMENT TONIGHT, BUT ALL OF THESE ARE HERE, BUT WE'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU WE HAVE AN INTENTION OF SILVER, AND SOMETIMES THEIR INTENTION OF SILVER TURNS INTO A GOAL LEAD.

WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES, BUT WE, I'D BE HAPPY, UH, AT A LATER POINT WHENEVER YOU OR THE ADMINISTRATION LOOKS TO, WE'D BE HAPPY TO PUT TOGETHER A, A, A MEETING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OF THE TYPES OF THINGS, WHY WE CONSIDER VARIOUS THINGS AND WHY CERTAIN THINGS WORK AND CERTAIN THINGS DON'T WORK.

AND, UH, THAT'D BE FINE.

AND I'M SURE I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF GEORGE AND BEN, BUT I'M SURE THEY'D BE HAPPY TO LEND THEIR SUPPORT TO THE TENT.

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OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S VERY ENCOURAGING.

THANK YOU.

WELL, WALTER, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THERE, UM, THEY SEEM TO BE PUTTING IN THE ELECTRIC CHARGERS, WHICH WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING AT FOR, UM, LAWS FOR THE TOWN WITH THE ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING AS WELL.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

OKAY.

UH, IF THERE'S NOT OF ANY, SO, UH, MR. DERAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL BE CALLING ON YOU FOR AND PICKING YOUR BRAINS FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.

, WE ARE HONORED TO BE CONSIDERED.

OKAY.

OKAY.

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE LUKE ROAD.

UM, ST.

STEVEN, IS THAT YOU THAT'S DOING THIS? YES.

OKAY.

HELLO EVERYONE.

IT'S STEVE SPINA FROM J M C.

WE'RE THE SITE ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.

AND I'LL, UH, I'LL START BY ANSWERING SOME QUESTIONS FROM MR. CANNING THAT, UH, THAT HE POSED AT THE LAST MEETING.

FIRST, UH, WAS REGARDING A LOOP ROAD WIDENING.

SO THIS, THIS SLIDE, UH, JUST SHOWS THE APPROVED LOOP ROAD WIDENING PLAN THAT WAS PART OF THE LOOP ROAD HOLDINGS PROJECT WITH THE EXISTING LOOP ROAD SHADED IN YELLOW.

JUST TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE NOW.

UM, AND YOU COULD SEE HOW THE ROAD IS SORT OF WIDENED ON, YOU KNOW, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, UH, FROM, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED TO BE WIDENED IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, UH, ON EITHER SIDE OF THE EXISTING ROAD.

UM, BUT WE, WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE PROPOSED THE WIDENING, UH, IT WAS DESIGNED WITH TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THE PEAK HOUR DEMAND, WHICH IS EARLY WEEKDAY MORNING, UH, TRAFFIC.

AND THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM WITHIN THE PROPOSED LANES FOR A SHARED BICYCLE TRAFFIC, BUT WE DON'T, WE DO NOT HAVE ROOM TO EXPAND IT TO ANOTHER LANE FOR BICYCLES.

UM, WE'RE JUST LIMITED IN SOME AREAS BY THE, UH, M S G PROPERTY, EXISTING PARKING LOTS, WETLAND BUFFERS, ET CETERA.

SO, UM, WE, WE, WE, TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION, WE DID, WE DID ASSESS IT, REVIEW IT, WE LOOKED INTO IT AGAIN, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION TO, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE THIS ROADWAY FUNCTION AS BEST AS IT POSSIBLY COULD.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT.

WELL, WELL, JOHN, IS HE, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY RE UH, COMMENT ON THAT? UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? UM, NOT PARTICULARLY.

UM, I'M GLAD THAT THE APPLICANT HAS REVISITED IT.

UH, I JUST THOUGHT THAT IN LIGHT OF THE VARIOUS CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER TIME, UH, NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO RECONSIDER IT BEFORE THEY COMMIT TO PUTTING IT IN THE GROUND.

AND, UM, THEY'VE LOOKED AT IT AND IT'S THEIR POSITION THAT THEY STILL NEED IT.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME, UH, TO, TO RECONSIDER IT IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE IT.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE LOOP ROAD? OH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IN THIS ROAD, THERE WILL BE A BIKE LANE INCLUDED.

NO, IT WILL NOT, THERE WILL NOT BE MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE BIKE STORAGE BIKE FACILITIES, AND THEY WILL BE ON THE ROAD.

AGAIN, IT'S AN INTERNAL ROADWAY.

THERE'S, THERE'S ROOM ON THERE.

THERE'S NOT, NOT FOR A SPECIFIC BIKE LANE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE WIDTH FOR THAT.

WE LOOKED FOR IT, BUT THERE WILL BE, AND THERE ARE NOW THERE WILL BE PEOPLE BIKING ON, ON, ON THIS ROADWAY.

OKAY.

UH, ANY OTHER CONCERNS, UH, QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT, UH, PART OF THE PRESENTATION? YEAH, WALTER, I THINK I'LL FOLLOW UP ON YOUR QUESTION ABOUT ON THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE LOOP GROUP.

UH, I MEAN, IF YOU ARE, SO I'M NOT CLEAR, UH, MARK, WHAT WAS YOUR CALL ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WAS, SO, OKAY.

AND LET ME JUST, UH, KIND OF REPHRASE MY QUESTION.

SO WHAT , IF THERE'RE GOING TO BE A BIKE ON THE, UH, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KIND OF MAKE IT A COMPATIBLE? OKAY, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL ALLOW STEVEN TO DO.

WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING WAS WE DID LOOK INTO THE ISSUE OF ADDING THE BIKE LANE, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE WIDTH.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT THE ISSUE, SO STEVEN, YOU WANNA, UH, HIT THAT? SURE.

WE, SO, SO IN, IN TWO LANES PROPOSED IN EACH DIRECTION, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S AREAS THROUGHOUT THE ALIGNMENT OF THE ROADWAY WHERE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE WIDTH TO ADD A BIKE LANE.

IF WE WANTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE MADISON SQUARE GARDEN TRAINING FACILITY PROPERTY LINE RIGHT HERE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, ON THE INSIDE OF THE ROAD, YOU HAVE THE EXISTING PARKING AREAS THAT, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO START

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TO REMOVE THIS LANDSCAPED ISLAND THAT IS THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE ROADWAY AND THE PARKING AREAS.

SO THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CONFINED ON BOTH SIDES, FOR INSTANCE, ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE THERE.

AND THEN IT, AND, AND AS YOU COME DOWN AND AROUND, THERE'S WETLAND BUFFERS.

UM, THERE'S ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TOWN WATER MAIN EASEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A FEW, UH, OBSTACLES TO JUST, YOU KNOW, TO ALLOW TO CONTINUE TO WIDEN THE ROADWAY.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT THEN, BUT WE DIDN'T REVIEW IT MM-HMM.

, BUT I'M, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE, UH, MARK MENTIONED THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A BIKES, UH, STORAGE OR BIKE PARKING ALONG THE LOOP ROAD.

SO HOW DO PEOPLE GOING BRING THEIR BIKE UP TO THAT? WELL, NOT, NOT, NOT ALONG THE LOOP ROAD ON THE CAMPUS THAT WE ARE, WE ARE PROVIDING BIKE STORAGE AND WE ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BIKE DOWN, SO THERE WILL BE AN ABILITY TO DO THAT, BUT PEOPLE BIKE ON ROADWAYS ALL THE TIME.

IT'S, AND IT'S PARTICULARLY FOR THIS, THERE'S A LOW SPEED LIMIT HERE.

IT'S, IT'S NOT PEOPLE THAT'S SPEEDING ALONG.

WE, WE DON'T THINK THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE WITH THAT.

SO, UH, IT'S JUST SIMPLY THEY'RE GONNA UTILIZE THE ROADWAY AGAIN WITH TWO LANES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR A BIKE, UH, TO BE ON THE ROADWAY, AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING AN AREA FOR THOSE BIKES TO BE STORED.

YEAH.

LET, LET ME ASK A QUESTION ON THAT.

IT, IS THERE GONNA BE A SHOULDER, YOU KNOW, OFF THE TWO LANES ON EACH DIRECTION? UH, IT, THERE'LL, THERE'LL BE A SMALL STRIPED SHOULDER, BUT IT'S ONLY ABOUT TWO FEET WIDE.

IT'S NOT, WELL, I'LL TELL YOU.

I MEAN, LOOK, JUST, AND, AND IN SOME AREAS, AND IN SOME, SORRY, AND IN, AND IN SOME AREAS WE DIDN'T BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE BUFFERS AND PROPERTY LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S AN EXPERIENCED BIKE RIDER CAN EASILY RIDE ON A TWO FOOT SHOULDER, YOU KNOW, RIDE THE WHITE LINE.

UM, SO I'M, I'M KIND OF, I KNOW AGREEING WITH WHAT MARK SAID.

I MEAN, YOU COULD SELL OUT BIKES ON THAT ROADWAY EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED BIKE.

AND, AND, AND I'LL ALSO MENTION, AGAIN, THIS IS A DESIGN THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL THAT WAS BEFORE YOU IN THE DOWN BOARD BACK SOME YEARS AGO.

THIS IS A REQUEST REGARD YOU, WHAT YOU YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS YOU, YOU WERE ASKING US ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF WIDENING IT FROM WHAT THIS ORIGINAL APPROVAL WAS.

AND OUR RESPONSE TO YOU WAS, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, IT JUST UNFORTUNATELY DOES NOT WORK WITH THE GEOMETRY.

BUT MARK, I THINK, UH, IN THE SAME TOKEN, I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE ARE REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR PHYSICAL CONSTRAINT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER PLACES PEOPLE HAVE ACCOMMODATED ON EXISTING ROADS IN A VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, WAY.

SO I, I, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE A, UM, LIMITATIONS, BUT IF YOU CAN DO IT BY SIGNAGE, BY MARKING, I WOULD BE A GOOD, UH, UH, GOOD ADDITION FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU LOOKING THROUGH.

MAY, MAY, MAYBE, UH, MEMBER DESAI, IT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE COMMENT, APPROPRIATE COMMENT ON A, UH, REPORT BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD.

AND THAT'LL GIVE US A LITTLE TIME TO, TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS, UH, BEFORE FINALIZING.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ALSO, JUST, JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.

I MEAN, IF YOU ARE ON A BICYCLE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE LOOP ROAD, CAN YOU JUST GO THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF CAMPUS, STEVEN? YEAH, YOU, YOU CAN, UH, YOU, YOU CAN TRAVEL FROM THE WEST SIDE HERE THROUGH THE COURTYARD AND TRAVEL THROUGH, UM, THE, THE, THESE BUILDINGS CLOSE OFF HERE.

THEY'RE CONTINUOUS.

THERE'S NOT A BRIDGE PER SE, RIGHT HERE BETWEEN THESE TWO BUILDINGS.

BUT, UH, YOU COULD COME, YOU COULD COME IN HERE AND YOU CAN RIDE ALONG THE SIDEWALKS OF BUILDINGS AND THEN CUT THROUGH.

THERE'S BRIDGES THAT YOU WOULD RIDE UNDER, AND THEN YOU WOULD GO INTO THE COURTYARD HERE, AND THEN YOU COULD COME OUT INTO THE PROPOSED PLAZA AND CERTAINLY GO THROUGH MOST OF THE CAMPUS THAT WAY IF YOU DID NOT WANT TO TAKE THE PERIMETER, UH, ROADWAY.

OKAY.

AND THE OTHER COMMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MY BOARD, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD, AND, AND IT'S QUITE CORRECT WHAT MR. WINE GORDON SAID THAT THIS, THE BASIC PLAN WAS, UH, UH, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND NOT NOW.

I'LL, I THINK APPROPRIATE ROLE FOR US, IF DURING THE PASSAGE OF TIME WE FIND SOMETHING THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE CHANGED, THEN WE COULD ALWAYS INDICATE THAT IN OUR RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE TOWN, I'D SAY, YES, THAT IT WAS APPROVED AS A TWO LANE, BUT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BAG PASS, IF THAT'S THE, THE CONSENSUS OF THE PLANNING BOARD.

SO WE COULD PUT THOSE IN SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME TO A FINAL SOLUTION ON EVERY POINT WE BRING UP.

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IF WE FEEL THAT THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSE DOES NOT SATISFY US, THEN IN OUR RECOMMENDATION WE COULD SAY WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT A, B, AND C.

SO, SO THAT'S THE WAY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON FROM THANK YOU, THE ROAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC UNLESS SOMEONE HAS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO ASK.

NO, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE, MOVE ON, WALTER, PLEASE.

OKAY.

SO LET'S MOVE ON AND JUST REMEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ASK THE QUESTION AND IF WE'RE, IF WE ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWER, WE COULD REFLECT THAT IN OUR RECOMMENDATION.

AND, AND I, AND I HOPE YOU CAN SEE FROM HOW MUCH EFFORT WE HAVE PUT INTO THESE RESPONSES.

WE LOOKED AT, WE, WE HEAR EVERY WORD YOU'RE SAYING.

OH, YEAH.

I'M, YES, .

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

IS THIS STEVEN? ARE YOU CONTINUING? YES.

SO THERE, THERE, MR. CANNING ALSO HAD SOME QUESTIONS, UH, OR REALLY ONE QUESTION, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT WHICH, UM, OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS ARE PROPOSED FOR PARCEL D UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC MITIGATION.

SO THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES JUST KINDA SHOW THAT, UH, THIS IS THE WEST SIDE OF OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.

SO HERE'S THE SPINE BUILDING THAT CROSSES OVER THE ROADWAY AT THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER.

SO YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, WESTERN DRIVEWAY GOING UP TOWARDS THE SAWMILL PARKWAY.

SO THERE'S TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT ARE EXISTING.

WE WOULD BE ADJUSTING THE TIMING ON THOSE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UH, IN THIS SLIDE.

THAT THOSE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THE PARCEL D PROJECT.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK.

THERE IS A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROPOSED AT THE EASTERN DRIVEWAY HERE, UH, THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY.

SO THERE'D BE A NEW SIGNAL THERE.

THERE'S SIDEWALK PROPOSED EXTENDING ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT TO MONITOR THE, UH, A NEARBY SIGN, UH, NEAR MY INTERSECTION HERE AT 100 C AND THE, UH, THE OFF BOUND AND ON BOUND RAMPS FOR NINE A NORTH.

SO THAT'S A, A, A MONITORING, UH, AFTER CONSTRUCTION TO DETERMINE IF ANYTHING ELSE IS WARRANTED, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE, ONCE THE BUILDING IS OCCUPIED.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE, THERE ARE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ALSO OFFSITE PROPOSED AS PART OF OTHER PROPOSED PROJECTS ON THE CAMPUS, BUT THIS WAS FOR PARCEL D AND, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MR. CANNING HAD.

SO WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT.

UM, JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? UH, NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH MY RECOMMENDATION.

UM, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INSTALLATION AT DRIVEWAY D WAS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS ON THIS? OKAY.

IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

SO THERE, UH, A CHAIRMAN, YOU HAD A QUESTION LAST MEETING ABOUT CON EDISON EASEMENTS ON THE CAMPUS.

UH, WE WENT BACK AND REVIEWED OUR FILED MAPS FOR, UH, FOR THE CAMPUS, AND WE COULD NOT FIND ANY REFERENCE TO CON EDISON EASEMENTS.

THIS IMAGE SHOWS EXISTING WATER MAIN EASEMENTS FROM THE, FOR THE TOWN AND, AND A, UH, AND A SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT.

UH, THE PROPERTY LINE IS IN GREEN, UH, SO THE WATER IS IN A BLUE EASEMENT THERE AND IS A SMALL EASEMENT HERE ON THE BOTTOM FOR SEWER.

SO THESE ARE THE EASEMENTS ON THE CAMPUS.

UM, THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW.

OKAY, WELL, THAT, THAT SATISFIED MY QUESTION BECAUSE HERE AGAIN, WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF, UH, A, UH, UH, UH, A BATTERY STORAGE, UH, LAW.

AND, AND SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, CAN CONNER EDISON WITH IT EASEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY, DECIDE TO BUILD A BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY ON YOUR PROPERTY? NOT THAT WE FEEL, NOT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL EITHER WAY, WHETHER IT'S POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, BUT WE JUST NEEDED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY.

SO, BASED UPON THE EASEMENT, THEY, IT CAN'T BE, THEY CAN'T USE THE EASEMENT AND JUSTIFICATION FOR BUILDING IT.

THEY JUST HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT ON A, A, UH, CON EDISON CAN'T IMPOSE THAT ON YOUR PROPERTY, REGENERON DECIDES TO DO IT, THEN YOU JUST APPLY TO DO IT.

OKAY.

THERE, THERE IS NO EASEMENT THAT FROM CON EDISON THAT WOULD PERMIT THEM TO GO DO THAT WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO KNOW THAT CON EDISON OWNS SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY IN THAT JASON AREA TO WHERE OUR CAMPUS IS.

THAT WAS THE GENESIS OF MY QUESTION, THAT'S WHY.

GOT IT.

THEY WANTED TO KNOW THAT, BUT OKAY.

CLARIFY THAT.

SO I'M SATISFIED.

OKAY.

SO, UH, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO CODY

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FROM, UH, UH, FLAT.

HE'S THE PROJECT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

HE'S GOING TO DISCUSS LANDSCAPING AND WETLANDS.

THANK YOU, STEVE.

UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

UH, THESE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ARE IN REFERENCE TO REQUEST, UH, AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE LANDSCAPE OF THE PROJECT.

UH, WHAT WE HAVE ON THE SLIDE HERE IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THE PLANTING DESIGN CRITERIA THAT THE SITE DESIGN TEAM, UH, CONSIDERED, UH, WHEN DEVELOPING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, SUCH AS PRESERVING EXISTING TREES TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, GIVEN THE SITE CONSTRAINTS AND THE BUILDING DEVELOPMENT, MINIMIZING DISRUPTION TO THE EXISTING WETLAND BUFFERS AND MAINTAINING, SUPPLEMENTING AND IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF THOSE, OF THE WETLAND AND THE EXISTING BUFFERS.

AND WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM OF THE UPCOMING SLIDES.

UH, MEETING REGENERON IMAGE EXPECTATIONS, UH, AS YOU KNOW, EVIDENCE WITH THE EXISTING CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, THE AESTHETICS AND APPEAL OF THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND THE SITE, UH, FOR REGENERON IS CERTAINLY OF, UH, MERIT CONSIDERATION, UH, WITHIN AS AN ORGANIZATION.

SO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE IN LINE WITH THEIR, UH, THEIR IMAGE AND THEIR BRANDING, IT'S IS CRITICAL TO THE PROJECT UTILIZING DROUGHT TOLERANT, NATIVE AND ADAPTIVE, UH, PLANTINGS, UH, UH, PERMITTED OR OR DESIGNATED WITHIN THE U S D A ENVIRONMENTAL HARDINESS ZONE SEVEN A, UH, CERTAINLY FOR CONSIDERATION AND EASE OF MAINTENANCE AND SUSTAINABILITY DOWN THE ROAD.

INCREASING LANDSCAPE DIVERSITY AND MINIMIZING FOOD FOR NEW IRRIGATION.

UH, CERTAINLY IMPORTANT, UH, FOR, UH, SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS.

UH, AND THEN ALIGNING THE DESIGN WITH THE OPERATIONAL AND MAINTENANCE EXPECTATIONS, UH, WITHIN THE CAPACITY OF REGENERON, UH, CAMPUS FACILITIES GROUP, UH, BY MAXIMIZING NATIVE AND ADAPTIVE PLANT SPECIES, UH, TO LOWER THE MAINTENANCE DEMAND AND, UH, MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ON THE ADJACENT ENVIRONMENT.

AND THEN THE, UH, COLUMN TO THE RIGHT ARE JUST A SUBSET OF THE, UH, LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS GUIDELINES AND INDUSTRY STANDARDS THAT, UH, THE LANDSCAPE SITE DESIGN TEAM HAS CONSIDERED IN DEVELOPING THE PLANT LIST, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND ON THIS SLIDE, UH, WE HAVE THE, UH, PLANT LIST, INCLUDING THE TREES, SHRUBS, UH, GROUND COVER, AND THE, UH, WETLAND SEED RESTORATION MIX, UH, THAT'S BEING, UH, PROPOSED FOR THE LANDSCAPE ADJACENT TO THE DISTURBANCE AREAS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, UH, THIS PUZZLE, D P M P D PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.

THE SUBSET IMAGE ON THE RIGHT INDICATES THE EXTENTS OF THE, UH, THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE PLANT MATERIAL, UH, ACROSS THE SITE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE P M P D DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE DOTS, THE DARK GREEN, LIGHT GREEN DOTS ADJACENT TO EACH OF THE PLANT SPECIES OF THE COLUMNS FOR THE TREES, SHRUBS, AND PERENNIALS.

UH, DARK GREEN INDICATES THE NATIVE, UH, NATIVE PLANT, UH, SPECIES FOR THIS AREA.

AND THE LIGHT GREEN IS, UH, ADAPTED NON-INVASIVE PLANT MATERIAL.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PLANTS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THE LANDSCAPE FALL WITHIN THE CATEGORY OF NATIVE AND ADAPTED.

UH, I THINK TO THE EXTENT OF 90%, UH, THE REMAINING 10% OR SO OF THE PLANTS THAT ARE NOT NATIVE OR ADAPTED ARE, UH, NON-INVASIVE ORNAMENTAL PLANTINGS, PRIMARILY, PRIMARILY UTILIZED IN THE HARDSCAPE FLAWS OF SPACE IN BETWEEN, UH, BUILDING SEVEN AND BUILDING 10 IDENTIFIED ON THE SLIDE, UH, IMAGE TO THE RIGHT.

ANY, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN REFERENCE TO ON, ON THOSE? OKAY.

I, I'M MAKING ASSUMPTION, I JUST NEED TO BE VERIFIED THAT THE PLANTING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TREE LAW OF THE ORIGINAL.

WHEN THE ORIGINAL PLAN CAME IN, WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR TREE, SO I ASSUME IT IS.

AARON HAS BEEN VERY GOOD IN UPDATING THIS PLANT.

SO I JUST WANT TO VERIFY THAT THE PLANTING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT TREE LAW.

WE BELIEVE THAT IS THE CASE BASED ON CONVERSATION THAT STEVE AT J M C HAS HAD WITH AARON, UH, THAT THE SITE IS CATEGORIZED AS, UH, NOT, UM, NOT QUALIFYING AS FORESTED, UNDEVELOPED AREA, THEREFORE REQUIRING 90% REPLACEMENT OF THE, UH, THAT 90% VALUE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING TREES.

BASED ON THE CURRENT PLANTING PLAN THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE EXCEEDING THAT TO THE TUNE OF APPROXIMATELY, UH, 130% OF THE VALUE.

SO, UH, EXCEEDING THE, THE MINIMUM TREE REQUIREMENT.

UH, ADAM, CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? CAN YOU VERIFY THAT? JUST NOTE, UM, JUST NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT'S IN PROCESS OF SUBMITTING THAT FOR STAFF REVIEW, I EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT GOING INTO THE PLANNING BOARDS NEXT MEETING.

SO WE'LL JUST NEED A LITTLE TIME.

THERE'S A LOT OF PLANT MATERIAL, BUT THAT I SUSPECT THAT IT WILL, UH, SATISFY THE CODE REQUIREMENT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

PROCEED, PLEASE.

OKAY.

UH, AND THEN, UH, THE WETLAND MITIGATION AND RESTORATION.

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THIS WAS AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

UH, THE IMAGE SUBSET THAT WE HAVE ON THE RIGHT HERE, UH, REFLECTS IN DARK BLUE DASH, THE A HUNDRED FOOT WETLAND BUFFER, UH, OFFSET FROM THE LIGHT BLUE WETLANDS OF STENTS THAT WERE SURVEYED BY, UH, UH, EVANSON ASSOCIATES, UH, IN JANUARY OF 2020.

UH, SO CONFIRMING THE EXTENTS THAT WAS, UH, PREVIOUSLY MAPPED, UH, WITH THE PREVIOUS, UH, UH, APPROVAL BACK IN 2014, AND IT SHOWS THE, THE LANDSCAPE RESPONSE AND ADJACENT TO PROPOSED DISTURBANCE AROUND THOSE WETLANDS.

THE TWO COLUMNS OF TEXT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN HERE, THE WETLAND MITIGATION PLANNING NOTES, WHICH REFERENCES THE REMOVAL OF, UH, DEBRIS TRASH DEADFALL WITHIN THE PLANTS, UH, WITHIN THE WETLAND AREAS, AND, UH, ASSOCIATED, UM, REPAIR RECEDING, UH, AND REQUIREMENTS FOR, UM, MITIGATION WITHIN THE PLANT.

THAT, OR WITHIN, EXCUSE ME, THE, UH, THE WETLAND EXTENDS THE, THE, THE LANGUAGE, UH, AND THE BENEFITS ARE FROM BOTH OF THOSE TEXTS ARE DIRECTLY, UH, UH, TRANSFERRED FROM THE PREVIOUS 2014 APPROVED, UH, LANDSCAPE PLAN.

SO THAT WE ARE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE UTILIZING THE SAME REQUIREMENTS SET WITHIN THAT PREVIOUS 2015 .

AND YOU CAN SEE REFLECTED BY THE LIGHT GREEN AND DARK GREEN HATCHES, UH, COLOR SWATCHES ON THAT DIAGRAM, THE EXTENT OF THE NATIVE GRASS SEED AND THE NATIVE WETLAND SEED.

AND I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT THE NATIVE WETLAND SEED THAT WE ARE PROPOSING ADJACENT TO THE, WITHIN THE BUFFER, ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING WETLAND IS THE SAME, UH, NATIVE SEED MIX THAT WAS, UH, INCLUDED WITHIN THE .

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? IF NOT, I HAVE NONE YOU TO PROCEED TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

STEVE, DID YOU WANT TO TALK TO THIS SLIDE? SURE.

THI THIS, THIS SLIDE REALLY JUST ILLUSTRATES HOW WE RECEIVED, UH, WE, WE REVIEWED THIS LAST MEETING, BUT WE DID RECEIVE, UH, A COMMENT ABOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL TREES WITHIN THE WETLAND BUFFERS.

SO THIS, THIS SLIDE LOOKS AT THE PROPOSED TEMPORARY PARKING LOT AND TRAILER COMPLEX, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE EXISTING LOOP ROAD, AND IT'S A RESTORATION PLAN FOR AFTER THE PARKING LOTS, UH, UH, PARKING AREAS ARE NO LONGER NEEDED.

SO IN GREEN SHOWS THE ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, ON, ON TOP OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED DRAWING.

SO JUST, JUST TO ANSWER ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME UP, WE, WE JUST WANT TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT THE , UH, ARE, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL FIRM WILL COME AT THE BACK END, BUT WE JUST WANT THAT DETAIL AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS.

YES, WE, UH, OUR, UH, SUBMISSION, UH, TO THE C A C AND THEN UPCOMING TO THE, TO THE PLANNING BOARD NEXT TIME, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE, UH, UM, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, WE'LL IDENTIFY A PALLET OF TREES, UH, I THINK AARON, AS YOU AND I KIND OF DISCUSSED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, NEXT.

AND SO THE, THE NEXT FEW SLIDES I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, THE, THE PROPOSED STORMWATER PRACTICES, EXISTING STORMWATER PRACTICES, HOW WE'RE TREATING THE INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS AREA.

SO THIS SHOWS THE SURFACE PRACTICES.

UH, YOU SEE ON THE LOWER PART OF THE SCREEN THERE, THERE'S THE EXISTING ATTENTION POND AND THE EXISTING WETLAND, UH, THAT REALLY WERE, UH, ORIGINALLY INSTALLED AS STORMWATER PRACTICES.

UM, NOW THEY'RE, UH, TECHNICALLY WETLANDS, WHICH HAPPENS A LOT OF THE TIME.

AND THE UPPER RIGHT SHOWS PROPOSED BIORETENTION AREAS, WHICH, UH, JAVIER HAD SHOWN A PHOTO EARLIER.

THIS JUST SHOWS A LITTLE, UH, KIND OF SECTION ILLUSTRATION OF, OF HOW THEY OPERATE, UH, WHERE WATER FILTERS THROUGH AND IS TREATED.

AND, UH, EXCESS WATER WOULD FLOW OUT OF THAT INTO THE STORM WATER CONVEYING SYSTEM.

SO, UM, THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE SUBSURFACE STORMWATER PRACTICES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

SO THERE WAS A FEW COMMENTS, UM, DURING THE LAST MEETING WHERE, UM, UH, OIL WATER SEPARATOR TYPE PRACTICES WHERE ASKED IF, IF WE WERE PROPOSING ANY, WE HAVE TWO OF THEM UP HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE THAT WOULD TAKE THE WATER FROM THE GARAGE, UH, PRIOR TO IT ENTERING INTO THE BUYER RETENTION BASINS.

OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT, IT WOULD, THE WATER WOULD BE PRETREATED BY THESE, UH, STORMWATER QUALITY STRUCTURES, WHICH SEPARATE SEDIMENT, TRASH, FLOATABLES, UM, YOU KNOW, DEBRIS LIKE THAT BEFORE IT, BEFORE THE WATER GOES INTO THESE OTHER PRACTICES.

THEN THERE'S AN UNDERGROUND, A LARGE UNDERGROUND STORMWATER DETENTION SYSTEM IN THE PARKING LOT HERE

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CONSISTING OF, UH, STORM CHAMBERS WITH A GRAVEL BED BELOW THEM.

AND THERE'S A, THERE'S ANOTHER STORM WATER QUALITY STRUCTURE THAT WOULD TREAT THE WATER PRIOR TO ENTERING THIS SYSTEM.

AND ALL THE OTHER GREEN LINES IN THIS PLAN JUST ILLUSTRATE THE PROPOSED UNDERGROUND STORM PIPES THAT CONVEY THE WATER COLLECTING CATCH BASINS ALONG THE ROAD AND IN THE PARKING AREAS.

UM, WHICH LEADS TO A COMMENT THAT WE ALSO RECEIVE REGARDING THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN PLAZA THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

SO, UH, THE, THE PEDESTRIAN PLAZA, UH, IS ESSENTIALLY IN PLACE OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY AN EXISTING PARKING LOT, UM, WHICH, UH, DRAINS INTO THE WETLAND AREA, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ANY PRETRE, WITHOUT ANY PRETREATMENT OF THE STORM WATER FROM THE PARKING LOT.

UM, AND EITHER DRAIN, THE EXISTING PARKING LOT EITHER DRAINS DIRECTLY INTO THE WETLAND, OR THERE'S AN EXISTING PIPE, UH, THAT TRAVERSES THE PROPERTY THAT THE PARKING LOT ALSO DISCHARGES A PORTION OF RUNOFF TO.

SO WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS, UH, INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING THAT RUNOFF FROM AN EXISTING PARKING LOT, WE WOULD TURN THE PARKING LOT INTO A BEAUTIFUL PLAZA, ADD SOME LANDSCAPING, AND THEN ALSO COLLECT THE IMPERVIOUS AREA RUNOFF.

AND THEN, AS I WAS SAYING BEFORE, IT WOULD GO TO THIS WATER QUALITY TREATMENT STRUCTURE, THEN THE DETENTION SYSTEM FOR A PEAK RATE ATTENUATION, AND THEN IT WOULD GET INTRODUCED BACK INTO, UH, WHERE THE, UH, RUNOFF CURRENTLY RUNS TO, WHICH IS A, A PIPE TRAVERSING THE PROPERTY.

SO, UH, WE THINK WE'RE EFFECTIVELY CAPTURING IT, TREATING IT, DETAINING IT, AND THEN SENDING IT BACK ON ITS WAY WHERE IT GOES CURRENTLY.

HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMENT, UH, ABOUT THE ANSWER IF YOU FEEL THAT, UH, UH, OUR ANSWERS HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVELY ADDRESSED? ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE STONEWATER PRACTICES? IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

THEN, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, WE REVIEWED THE TEMPORARY PARKING ANALYSIS AND, UH, REGARDING TO THE NEED FOR THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT.

SO THE, UH, THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARCEL D PROJECT IS GOING TO DISPLACE ABOUT 500 EXISTING PARKING SPACES.

UM, SO THERE WAS, UH, THE NEXT FEW SLIDES JUST SORT OF ILLUSTRATE THE IMPACTS OF THE LOSS OF THOSE EXISTING PARKING SPACES.

PLUS WHEN YOU ADD CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES FOR THE WORKERS, PLUS SOME REGENERON GROWTH, THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE A LOT OF THEIR EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN WORKING AT HOME THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC.

UM, SO THIS FIRST SLIDE JUST SHOWS, UH, IN, IN BLUE THE AVAILABLE PARKING ON THE CAMPUS EXISTING AND, AND NEW AS PROPOSED, UM, ON OUR PLANS.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE GREEN, WHICH IS THE DEMAND BASED ON OUR STUDY, EXCEEDS THE BLUE.

SO RIGHT IN HERE, THERE IS A PARKING DEFICIT, AND WE DID AN EXTENSIVE STUDY, AND YOU SEE ESSENTIALLY 2022, IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2023, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING ON CAMPUS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION, THE LAW, THE, THE DISPLACED PARKING, UH, THOSE KIND OF FACTORS.

SO, UM, THE PARKING GARAGE WE'RE PROPOSING THOUGH, WILL HELP THAT A LOT, BUT THAT WILL NOT BE COMPLETED UNTIL THIS POINT IN THE TIMELINE HERE, THIS RED LINE.

SO ONCE THAT PARKING GARAGE COMES ONLINE, UH, THAT'S WHEN YOU SEE THAT SPIKE IN THE INCREASE OF PARKING AVAILABLE.

SO, UH, THAT HELPS A LOT.

WE JUST CANNOT GET THE PARKING GARAGE CONSTRUCTED IN TIME FOR, AND THE PARKING DEMAND IS AT ITS GREATEST AS ILLUSTRATED HERE.

SO, UH, WE, WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT ANALYSIS THAT, UH, A LOT WENT INTO IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING SOLUTIONS WE'RE PROPOSING.

IT'S NOT JUST ADDING TEMPORARY PARKING LOTS.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A NEW PARKING GARAGE PROPOSED.

THERE ARE SOME PARKING LOTS.

UM, BUT WE, WE ARE PROPOSING SHUTTLE SERVICES, VALET PARKING, UH, VERTICAL VEHICLE STACKERS, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, UH, THE CAMPUS, THE, THE, THE, THE STACKERS ARE PROPOSED IN A, IN A, IN AN AREA ON THE MOUNT PLEASANT SIDE OF THE CAMPUS.

VALET PARKING IS PROPOSED.

UH, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL SHOW YOU, IT'S TWO SLIDES FROM NOW.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SLIDE ILLUSTRATING THOSE NUMBERS, UH, IN RED THAT WERE IN THE PREVIOUS CHART, UH, WITH THE GRAPH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF, OF ALL THE FACTORS WE LOOKED INTO HERE IN THIS, UH, PARKING STUDY.

BUT WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION WAS THIS, THIS GRAPHIC HERE, WHICH JUST SHOWS, UM, THAT THAT, THAT THE PROPOSED TEMPORARY LOTS ARE IN YELLOW.

UM, WE'RE PROPOSING SOME VALET PARKING IN SOME AREAS.

WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE VEHICLE STACKERS OVER HERE ON

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THE LEFT SIDE, THIS IS MOUNT PLEASANT, SORRY, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF OLD SAW RIVER ROAD, UH, SOUTH SOUTH CAMPUS HERE IN GREENBURG.

SO, UH, THERE, THERE'S DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS PROPOSED, UH, AS WELL AS SHUTTLING OFF CAMPUS.

SO, UM, A LOT WENT INTO THIS STUDY AND WE JUST WANTED TO FURTHER REINFORCE THAT, AND THEN ALSO JUST PRESENT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS AND THE APPROACHES THAT, THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH AS PART OF THE STUDY.

SO, UM, HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THE BOARD HAD ABOUT, UH, THE TIMING AND, AND THE TYPE OF, UM, TYPE OF PARKING SOLUTIONS AND, AND WHY WE'RE WE'RE PROPOSING TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

ANY QUESTION ON THE PARKING, THE REASON WHY, UH, THE TEMPORARY, UH, PARKING LOT IS NEEDED? YEAH, I THINK I'M, I JUST WANTED A CLARIFICATION, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, CONSIDERING ALL THESE ALTERNATES AND, UH, UH, IT'S REALLY, UH, GOOD, GOOD EFFORT TO, UH, NOT TO HAVE A LARGE TEMPORARY PARKING.

SO, BUT CAN YOU TELL LIKE, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR ALL THESE OTHER EFFORTS STARTING IT AND SORT OF, UH, HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE REST OF THE, UH, SOLUTIONS THAT PROVIDED, IN OTHER WORDS, THE TEMPORARY PARKING CONSTRUCTION STARTING AND TEMPORARY PARKING DISMANTLING VERSUS ALL THIS ALTERNATE? WELL, SO THE, THE, THE ALTERNATE PRACTICES SUCH AS I, I, I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO, SUCH AS THE VALET AND THE SHUTTLE AND THE STACKERS, EXACTLY.

UM, THOSE ARE PROPOSED IN THE SAME TIMELINE AS THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOTS THEMSELVES.

SO IT'S A, IT'S KIND OF A TEAM EFFORT OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO AND START INSTALLATION OF THESE PARKING LOTS AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.

UM, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO START THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARCEL D PROJECT, WE WOULD LIKE TO START BUILDING THESE PARKING LOTS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAW IN THE GRAPHIC EARLIER, THAT THE DEFICIT STARTS TO APPEAR, UH, IN 2022 WHEN WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, GET IN, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE YOU START THE CONSTRUCTION HERE, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE PARKING THAT'S GONNA GET ELIMINATED.

IT ESSENTIALLY REMOVES 500 EXISTING PARKING SPACES.

SO RIGHT AWAY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, THE IMPACT IS FELT.

SO WE WANT TO, WE WANNA, WE WANNA START CONSTRUCTING THESE PARKING LOTS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT THAT DISPLACED PARKING CAN BE SHED TO OTHER LOCATIONS.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON TALKING? YES, WALTER? SURE.

UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONCE THE PARKING FACILITIES ARE COMPLETED, THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOTS DISAPPEAR, AND ANY TREES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN DOWN, THEY WILL, UM, PUT, THEY WILL, UH, PLANT NEW, UM, PLANTINGS BACK TO REPLACE TREES THAT WERE TAKEN DOWN.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

SO E E THE DESIGN OF EACH PARKING LOT, UH, TRY, WE TRY TO INCORPORATE AND WORK AROUND THE EXISTING TREES TO REALLY LIMIT THE REMOVAL OF SOME, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S SOME NICE MATURE TREES ON THE CAMPUS, AND WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO WORK AROUND THOSE ANY, BUT, BUT ANY AREAS WHERE WE'RE REMOVING TREES, ONCE THESE PARKING LOTS ARE REMOVED, THEY, THEY WILL BE THAT THE AREAS WILL BE RESTORED.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A RESTORATION PLAN SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT BEFORE YOU, UM, ON THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.

UM, AND, UH, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH TOWN STAFF ON, UH, RESTORATION PLANS FOR THE OTHER PARKING LOTS AS WELL.

OKAY.

SO, UM, DO WE HAVE TENTATIVE DATES FOR, UM, SOME SORT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR THE TOWN TO COME BACK IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE LOTS HAVE BEEN RESTORED AND LANDSCAPED AND, YOU KNOW, BACK TO SOMEWHAT NORMAL THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER TEMPORARY LOTS? UH, WE, WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT THERE HAS BEEN A RESTORATION THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE AT THE END OF THIS PROJECT, RIGHT? UH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT, UH, LEVEL OF DETAIL YET WITH TOWN STAFF, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THERE WILL BE CONDITIONS IN THE PERMITS THAT THEY PROVIDE TO US THAT THESE LOTS WILL HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, REMOVED, DECOMMISSIONED, HOWEVER YOU WOULD SAY, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY RESTORED BACK TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THEN EVEN, YOU KNOW, FURTHER TREES ADDED ONTO THE, TO THE PARKING AREAS TO, YOU KNOW, UH, KIND OF GO ALONG WITH THE WHOLE TREE THAT THE VALUE OF THE EXISTING

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TREES THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WILL ALL BE DESIGNED AND AND PERMITTED BY THE BY TOWN STAFF AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, REGENERON, UH, WILL FULLY COMPLY WITH, WITH EVERYTHING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND MONA, AND, AND SEE AND FA PARCEL OF OUR RECOMMENDATION BACK, THESE ARE THINGS WE COULD POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, I WE SUGGEST THAT THE TOWN BOARD PUT A, A RESTORATION PLAN IN PLACE SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MAKE THAT PART OF WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION WE FEEDBACK.

I, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU.

I, WHEN IT COME BACK TO WRITING UP THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

NEXT, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON TALKING BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT TOPIC? IF NOT, UH, WE MOVE ON .

SURE.

SO THERE, THERE WAS A QUESTION, UH, LAST MEETING ALSO ABOUT THE, THE PARKING LOT, UH, THAT IS BEFORE YOU IN THE APPLICATION THAT IS EAST OF THE PROPOSED PARCEL D PROJECT.

SO THIS, JUST TO REORIENT, YOU OLD SAW RIVER ROAD IS ON YOUR LEFT, AND HERE'S THE PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE, AND THIS IS THE EASTERN DRIVEWAY COMING INTO THE CAMPUS.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING THIS TEMPORARY PARKING LOT.

SO THE QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS PARKING LOT HAPPENS TO BE SEPARATED FROM THE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, YOUR DESTINATION BY THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE.

SO HOW WOULD PEDESTRIANS GET SAFELY TO THE, TO THEIR DESTINATION, TO THE, TO THE EXISTING BUILDING? SO THIS WAS JUST TO ILLUSTRATE, UH, A, A WALKING PATH THAT, UH, WOULD BE BUILT.

UM, THERE'S A PROPOSED SIDEWALK DOWN AROUND AND CROSS OVER THE ROADWAY HERE TO A PROPOSED, UH, SIDEWALK ALONG THE, THE INTERNAL ROADWAY.

AND THEN AS PART OF OUR OFFSITE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS AS ILLUSTRATED EARLIER IN ONE OF THOSE AERIAL PHOTOS, WE HAVE TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK ALONG THE ROADWAY, SO THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED AS WELL.

SO YOU'D HAVE THIS ROUTE, UH, SHOWN IN RED HERE THAT, UH, PEOPLE COULD WALK TO THE EXISTING BUILDING, UH, ANY OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON ITS SIDE TO AVOID THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE.

SO, SO THAT, THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE, UH, YOU KNOW, PROPERLY EXPLAIN.

SO, SO I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

WHEN YOU CROSSED THE ROADWAY, JUST, YOU KNOW, TO THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE PARKING LOT, UM, I ASSUME THERE WILL BE A CROSSWALK? YES.

AND, AND, AND I, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A BUTTON THAT PEDESTRIANS CAN PUSH, SO THE LIGHTS WILL FLASH AND THE CARS WILL KNOW THAT THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN THERE, THAT'S A SAFE WAY TO DO IT.

YOUR THOUGHTS? UH, WE CAN, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

YES, IT CERTAINLY, UH, WOULD HELP SAFETY.

UM, WE, WE THINK THERE COULD BE, THERE, THERE COULD BE A FEW DIFFERENT MEASURES THAT WE CAN PROPOSE.

SO YOU'LL LET US KNOW WHAT TO EVEN, UH, BEING THAT YOU TOUCHED ON THE, THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY CONDITIONED.

I BELIEVE, UH, MR. CANNING HAD ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT TO THAT, UH, MR. CANNING.

HI, AARON.

YES.

SORRY TO DRAG YOU BACK THAT THE SLIDE YOU SHOWED WITH THE RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS, UH, I JUST PULLED THE 2014 TRAFFIC STUDY, AND IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT DRIVEWAY D IT ALSO MENTIONED THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 200 FOOT LONG, UH, RIGHT TURN LANE ON THE NORTHBOUND APPROACH ON DRIVEWAY D.

AND IT WASN'T ON THE, UH, GRAPHIC, BUT I PRESUME THAT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT.

Y YES.

THAT THAT GRAPHIC WAS REALLY TO ILLUSTRATE THE OFFSITE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS.

SO YES, UH, YOU ARE CORRECT.

THERE IS A, UH, THERE'S A, A TURN LANE THAT IS REQUIRED AS YOU, AS YOU HEAD NORTHBOUND AND EXIT THE DRIVEWAY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YEP, EXACTLY.

YES.

AND, AND WE ARE, SO I GUESS WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THE PROJECT IS THAT WE ARE AS SHOWN ON OUR SITE PLANS, WE'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING TO BUILD THE WIDENED LOOP ROAD, UH, NOW AS OPPOSED TO WITH THE LOOP ROAD PROJECT OR AT LEAST, UH, THE EASTERN PORTION OF IT.

SO THAT TURN LANE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THEREBY, UH, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT.

UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, UH, PEDESTRIAN? UM, WELL, AND MICHAEL

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HERE AGAIN, IF, UH, THE ISSUE OF A, UM, A PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL, AGAIN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE COULD ELUTE, WE COULD, UH, UH, PUT IN OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S THE CASE.

SO IT, IT, IT DOESN'T GET LOST SO THAT IT ALL BECOMES PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION.

ACTUALLY, CHALLENG, IF, IF YOU FEEL, IF YOU FEEL IT SHOULD BE IN THERE, THAT'S THE FEELING OF THE TOWN BOARD OF, OF THE PLANNING BOARD, THEN THAT COULD BE ANOTHER, UH, PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

AND, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I, I THINK THAT WAS IT.

I THINK, YES.

SO WE THINK THAT COVERS THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS WE RECEIVED DURING THE LAST MEETING.

UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.

UH, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OKAY.

IF, IF THERE ARE NO, NO OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, WHAT, SO, BUT BEFORE I START, IS THAT THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS? IF NOT, UH, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO PROCEED THE, THE FOLLOWING.

I, I, UM, I FEEL THAT, UH, WE HAVE THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED.

WE ASKED OUR QUESTIONS, AND WHICH I THINK APPLICANT, UH, DID A, A, A A, UH, OUTSTANDING JOB IN ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS.

WE STILL, WE STILL MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, CONCERNS OR, OR, OR ABOUT THE APPLICATION, BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THOSE CONCERNS AS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE COUNTY COURT.

SO WE, WE COULD DO THAT.

NOW.

I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR A PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON THIS, UH, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED TO US.

THIS IS PART OF A MASTER PLAN.

UH, THEY ARE NOT, UH, UH, SURROUNDED BY NEIGHBORS.

UH, JOHN CANNON INDICATED THAT THE STUDY HE DID BACK IN 2016 IS STILL VALID, SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF TRAFFIC.

UH, SO I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT NOW THAT WE COULD DIRECT STAFF TO WRITE A RECOMMENDATION AND THAT WE COULD ADD THOSE, I THINK TWO OR THREE CONCERNS, UH, UH, RESURFACE AND TO MAKE, UH, AND IF THE PLANNING BOARD WISH, WE COULD AS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, SAY, THESE ARE SOME CONCERNS WHICH WE FEEL THAT THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, WITH GENERAL.

SO THAT'S HOW I THINK WE SHOULD PROCEED, UH, THIS EVENING AND, AND GIVE STAFF, UM, UH, UH, A GUIDANCE TO HOW WE WANT THIS TO BE WRITTEN UP.

AND FIRST OF ALL, LET'S IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS THAT, THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE, JUST DRAW ATTENTION TO THE TOWN BOARD.

MICHAEL, YOU HAD ONE THAT THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF A PEDESTRIAN SIGN.

SO THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN OUR RECOMMENDATION.

UH, UH, ANOTHER ONE, I THINK CUR THAT, UH, HAD ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE SOUND BOARD SHOULD LOOK AT WHAT OTHER ALTERNATIVES YOU COULD DO IN TERMS OF A BIKE PATH.

UM, SO THOSE ARE TWO, THOSE ARE ONLY TWO THAT I CAN THINK OF.

MR. SCHMIDT HAS HIS HAND UP.

YES.

SO, SO I'VE TAKEN CHAIRPERSON SIMON MEMBERS BOARD.

I'VE TAKEN SOME VERY THOROUGH NOTES THIS EVENING.

I FEEL LIKE STAFF'S IN A GOOD POSITION TO PUT TOGETHER THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE CONNECTED AND AND RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER, THERE WILL BE TWO SEPARATE RECOMMENDATIONS PREPARED FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD.

SO I HAVE NOTES, UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, REGARDING, UH, POTENTIAL FOR BIKE LANE ACCOMMODATIONS WHERE POSSIBLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, PROVIDED A LOT OF INFORMATION ON SUSTAINABILITY MEASURES BEING CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE PROJECT, RIGHT? UM, THAT THE, THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS PREVIOUSLY REQUIRED A CONDITION TO BE CARRIED OUT IN FULL AS PART OF THIS, WITH THESE PROJECTS, UM, THAT COUNT, STAFF WILL ENSURE THAT THE APPLICANT ORDINANCE, THE

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TEMPORARY PARKING AREAS BE PLANTED, WILL BE REPLANTED WITHIN A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME FOLLOWING DECOMMISSIONING OF THOSE AREAS AND THAT SIGNING AND OR STRIPING AND OR OTHER MEASURES, UH, FOR THE PEDESTRIAN ROUTE BE EMPLOYED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.

THOSE ARE .

ARE THERE ANY OTHER POINTS THAT, BASED UPON, UH, THE OUTLINE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH INDICATED THAT HE WILL BE DRAWING UP THE RECOMMENDATION, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, ANY ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE, ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, UH, FEEL THAT, UH, SHOULD BE GIVEN BEFORE HE WRITES THIS UP? SO IT'LL BE WRITTEN UP AND, AND IT'LL BE, UH, UH, AVAILABLE AT OUR NEXT, UM, BOARD MEETING SO WE COULD, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT, WELL, I, I THINK WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD ADD, UH, UH, UH, JOHN CANON'S, UH, COMMENTS, THE TRAFFIC COMMENTS, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, UH, IS HE WANTED TO FOLLOW.

YEAH, OKAY.

EITHER POSITIVE, NEGATIVE OR S OKAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE, IF THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHER COMMENTS, I DID HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM BECAUSE I KNOW WE DO WANNA MOVE ON TO THE OTHER PROJECT ON OUR AGENDA.

YES.

UM, EARLIER ON, MR. WEINGART INDICATED THAT THERE ARE SOME VARIANCES REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT, AND THE ZONING BOARD WOULD BENEFIT FROM A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.

SO STAFF'S INTENTION TO ALSO PREPARE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO CONSIDER TO THE ZONING BOARD IN CONNECTION WITH THOSE VARIANCES.

AT THE NEXT MEETING, I PROPOSE THAT WE GIVE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF THE PROPOSED, UH, ZONING, UH, VARIANCE THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE ZONING.

SO, OKAY.

WE, WE CAN, WE CAN, UM, DRAFT THAT UP.

I THINK THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT IT HAD JUST SUBMITTED, SO I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY TARGETING GETTING ON THE JULY MEETING WITH THE ZONING BOARD THAT GIVES STAFF SOME TIME AND THE PLANNING BOARD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DRAFT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, EXECUTING IT AND MOVING IT ALONG WITH THE ZONING BOARD, WHICH WILL BE IN PLENTY OF TIME FOR THE ZONING BOARD MEETING.

WE SHOULD TAKE THE VOTE, AARON, THEN YOU CAN JUST WRITE THE THING UP.

WE, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

IT'S BEEN SECONDED.

YEAH, WE NEED TO VOTE.

WALTER.

YEAH, WELL, WELL, I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT.

I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL REASONS.

YEP.

UM, SO I MEAN, TO ME, THE MAIN REASON IS IT'S GONNA BE TEMPORARY AS FAR AS I KNOW, UM, UM, IS TEMPORARY, MICHAEL, AND IT'S ALSO NECESSARY TO, TO, TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.

I THINK, LOOK, IT, IT CAN, CAN WE, AARON, CAN WE VOTE ON THIS BEFORE THE Z CAN WE VOTE ON THIS AT OUR NEXT MEETING BEFORE THE Z B A MEETING? I THOUGHT THEY MET THE Z ZPA.

NO, KAREN, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY YOU CANNOT.

YOUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON THE 7TH OF JULY, WHICH IS IN ADVANCE OF THAT ZONING BOARD MEETING IT, ADVANCE OF ZONING.

FINE.

I MEAN, OKAY.

HOLD ON.

HOLD ON GUYS.

YOU STILL GOTTA GET TO MICHAEL'S POINT, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD ONE.

YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM, YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM REASONS.

IF YOU WANT ALAN TO WRITE SOMETHING UP THAT WE CAN VOTE ON AT THE NEXT MEETING, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REASONS WHY WE WOULD EVEN CONSIDER A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.

I THINK MICHAEL'S FIRST REASON OF IT BEING TEMPORARY IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND THE SECOND ONE IS THIS IS, IS NECESSARY TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW BUILDING WITHOUT SIGNIFICANTLY DISRUPTING EXISTING OPERATIONS ON THE CAMPUS.

THAT TO ME ATTORNEY, SO WELL, KEEP IN MIND, I, I DO WANT TO MENTION FOR THE BOARD, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO REMIND YOU OF WHAT THE VARIANCES ARE.

SO RELATED TO THE PARCEL D BUILDING, UH, THERE'S AN F A R, UH, VARIANCE REQUESTED FROM 0.30, WHICH WAS REQUIRED.

IT WAS ACTUALLY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TO 3 0 5, AND THEY'RE SEEKING AN INCREASE OF 0.337.

UH, THEY HAVE A BUILDING SETBACK, UH, VARIANCE.

THE REQUIREMENTS 150 FEET, IT'S ACTUALLY DOWN TO ZERO IN CONNECTION WITH THE BRIDGE THAT WOULD BE CROSSING FROM THE EXISTING LOOP ROAD TO THE NEW CAMPUS.

SO THEY WANTED TO ADD THAT IN AND, AND, AND DEAL WITH THAT WITH THE ZONING BOARD AT THIS TIME.

AND THEN

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WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE, THE, UM, PARKING STRUCTURE, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 75 FEET WITHIN THAT ZONE.

THEY'RE PROPOSING 87 FEET, AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, THE ROOF OF THAT STRUCTURE ACCOMMODATION FOR FUTURE SOLAR PANELS.

UH, THE STORIES OF THE BUILDING PERMITTED SIX STORIES, AND, AND TECHNICALLY IN OUR CODE IT WOULD BE SEVEN STORIES.

SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR VARIANCES.

OKAY.

IN RESPECT TO THE TEMPORARY PARKING.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN THE TEMPORARY PARKING THEN THE OTHER VARIANCES.

FRANKLY, WHAT I SEE IS, FIRST OF ALL, THIS, THIS, THIS PROJECT IS ALL WITHIN A CAMPUS, RIGHT? THEY'RE THE ONLY ONE, THEY'RE IMPACTING IT THEMSELVES.

OKAY.

SO I DO NOT SEE AN IMPACT, NEGATIVE IMPACT ON ANYBODY ELSE.

IF THERE IS A NEGATIVE IMPACT, WHICH WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE IS, IT'D BE MINIMAL ANYWAY, BUT I DO NOT SEE ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON ANYBODY BEYOND THEMSELVES.

CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? YEAH, YEAH.

MY SUGGESTION IS THAT, AARON, WHY DON'T YOU DRAFT UP A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.

SEND IT TO ALL OF US IF WE HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO CONTRIBUTE.

I'M SURE.

WE'LL, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SHY.

AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING I AM JUST TAKE A FORMAL VOTE.

OKAY.

MICHAEL, THAT'S EXCELLENT SUGGESTION.

SO LET'S FOLLOW THE, OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY, GOOD.

OKAY.

SO BASED UPON THAT, WE, UH, WE, SO ARE WE WITHDRAWING THE VOTE? YEAH.

YES.

WITHDRAW THE MOTION.

WE ARE GOOD.

WITHDRAW THE MOTION.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, BUT, UH, WITH THIS, AND, AND BY DOING IT THIS WAY, WE ARE NOT DELAYING ANYTHING.

UH, AND WE'LL HAVE TIME TO READ THE RECOMMENDATION AND, OKAY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO, TO, UH, SAY THAT, UH, JANET GARRIS DID A FANTASTIC JOB ON PRESENTING THIS.

IT WENT MUCH SMOOTHER AFTER MARK LEFT FOR HIS, HIS PARTY .

SEE HOW SHE HANDLED THE NEXT ONE THOUGH? .

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND LET'S GET STARTED WITH THE NEXT APPLICATION.

IN, IN, IN SOME WAYS IT'S SIMILAR.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

WE PRE-APPROVED, WE PRE-APPROVED A MASTER PLAN THE SAME WAY WE DID REGENERON FOR, FOR , AND I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD ITERATION OF THAT PLAN.

UH, AND SO, UM, AARON, COULD YOU INTRODUCE THE PLAN SO WE COULD START WORKING ON, ON THE NEXT APPLICATION? OF COURSE.

THANK YOU CHAIRPERSON.

TIME IN THE NEXT CASE IS CASE NUMBER TB 20 DASH 11 AND TB 20 DASH 28.

UH, HACKLEY SCHOOL AT 2 93 BENEDICT AVENUE, PO O CHERRYTOWN, NEW YORK, UH, PLANNING BOARD WILL BE DISCUSSING A REFERRAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD ON AN AMENDED SITE PLAN APPLICATION, AS WELL AS THE TOWN BOARD TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATION PLANNING BOARD, DEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION IN CONNECTION WITH AC ATHLETE'S PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A NEW ART CENTER BUILDING ON THE EXISTING CAMPUS.

UH, IT WON'T TAKE AWAY ANY OF THE APPLICANT'S THUNDER ON ITS PRESENTATION.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. RIS AT THIS TIME.

ERIN, CAN I SHARE, PLEASE? YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN.

THANK YOU, UH, CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

IT'S NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL IN PERSON SOON.

UM, JANET GARRIS WITH DELBELLO, JANELLE WEINGART, AND WEIS AND WHITAKER THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

ALSO JOINING ME THIS EVENING, PETER MCANDREW WITH HACKLEY SCHOOL, UH, MIKE YOUNGINS, OUR PROJECT ENGINEER, AND MATT HIRSCH, OUR PROJECT ARCHITECT.

UM, AARON, THANKS FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE BRIEF INTRODUCTION.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ARE CORRECT, UM, THE APPLICATION OF HACKLEY SCHOOL.

UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF, UH, BIT OF HISTORY, UM, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, WE'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU A NUMBER OF TIMES OVER THE LAST, I'M GONNA SAY 20 YEARS.

UM, AND, UH, THE CAMPUS, AS YOU KNOW, IT CAN, IT'S A LARGE CAMPUS.

IT CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 285 ACRES.

UM, AND THERE IS, UH, A SMALL PORTION OF THOSE 285 ACRES, UH, LOCATED IN THE VILLAGE OF TERRYTOWN.

258 ACRES ARE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

PRIMARILY, IT'S LOCATED IN THE R 40 DISTRICT OF THE TOWN.

UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, UM, UH, 27 ACRES ARE LOCATED IN THE VILLAGE OF TERRYTOWN.

THE SCHOOL BUILDINGS ARE GENERALLY LOCATED IN

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A CORE AREA OF THE CAMPUS.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 11 AND A HALF ACRE, UH, WHAT WE CALL A CORE AREA AT THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN THERE ARE THE ATHLETICS FIELDS COMPLEX LOCATED ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CAMPUS.

AND PRIMARY ACCESS TO THE CAMPUS IS VIA THEIR SIGNALED INTERSECTION, UH, ON BENEDICT AVENUE.

THERE'S ALSO A SECONDARY ACCESS DRIVE ON MIDLAND AVENUE.

UM, TAKING ME BACK TO JUNE OF 2003, THE TOWN BOARD GRANTED AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL AT THAT TIME TO PERMIT THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO NEW ACADEMIC BUILDINGS, UH, AND AT THE SAME TIME HAVE ALSO APPROVED A MASTER PLAN FOR THE POTENTIAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT APPROVAL WAS THE SUBJECT OF A GENERIC ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT, WHICH EVALUATED THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE PROPOSED UNDER THE MASTER PLAN AT THAT TIME.

SINCE THAT 2003 APPROVAL, UH, WE'VE BEEN BEFORE THE TOWN FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE, UH, NEW ATHLETIC FIELDS PROJECT, AS I MENTIONED, WITH THE ASSOCIATED WALKING TRAILS AND OTHER BUILDINGS ON, UH, THE PROPERTY THAT'S JUST NORTH OF THEIR MAIN FIELD THAT WE CALL, UH, PICKER FIELD.

AND THEN IN 2014, WE WERE BACK BEFORE, UH, THE TOWN BOARD, UH, PLANNING BOARD AND THE ZONING BOARD IN CONNECTION WITH SOME LIGHTING THAT WE INSTALLED AT PICKER FIELD.

UM, AND THEN AGAIN, IN 2016, WE WERE BEFORE YOU IN CONNECTION WITH, UH, AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO PERMIT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMPLEX, WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE JOHNSON CENTER.

UM, IN, AS PART OF THAT, THERE WAS ALSO SOME FACULTY HOUSING THAT WAS APPROVED, 12 UNITS OF FACULTY HOUSING IN TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS.

SO WE'RE CURRENTLY BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD SEEKING AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE TOWN BOARD TO PERMIT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEXT COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT.

THAT IS, UH, THE CENTER FOR CREATIVE ARTS AND TECHNOLOGY.

AND THAT BUILDING, UH, TOGETHER WITH, UH, I THINK IT'S 63 PARKING SPACES AND RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE IS PROPOSED ON THE PROPERTY.

IT WILL INCLUDE THE, THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING ZOFF GYMNASIUM, WHICH HAS BECOME FUNCTIONALLY OBSOLETE, UH, AND THE NEW AND THE OLD EXISTING ARTS BUILDING, UM, WILL BE DEMOLISHED AS WELL.

UH, THE DEMOLITION OF THOSE TWO BUILDINGS WILL MAKE ROOM FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

AND SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS, UH, AN APPROXIMATELY 4.7 ACRE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS PRIMARILY LOCATED WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, AND THE ASSOCIATED PARKING AND SOME OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE LOCATED IN THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE TOWN BOARD SITE PLAN AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE STEEP SLOPES PERMIT THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOUR BOARD, WE ALSO HAVE APPLICATIONS BEFORE THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN, UH, THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN, UM, BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR A COMPATIBLE USE PERMIT.

AND THE, UM, VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN PLANNING BOARD FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND A SLOPES WAIVER IN CONNECTION WITH THE, UM, IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROPOSED, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE TO BE LOCATED IN THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN.

SO, UM, I JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, THE, THE PROPOSED, UM, THE PROJECT, THE CENTER FOR CREATIVE ARTS AND TECHNOLOGY, WE'RE CALLING IT THE C C A T.

UM, SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT IT IN THE AREA, AS I MENTIONED, OF THE EXISTING ARTS BUILDING, UM, WHICH IS AT THE WESTERN END OF WHAT WE REFER TO AS AIKEN COMMON.

AND YOU MAY REMEMBER AIKEN COMMON FROM WHEN WE WERE BEFORE YOU, UM, IN CONNECTION WITH THE, UM, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND SCIENCE BUILDINGS.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR MAIN GATHERING SPACE.

UM, I DON'T WANNA STEAL OUR ARCHITECT'S THUNDER.

I WANT HIM TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU WHAT WE THINK IS A, A WONDERFULLY, UH, AESTHETICALLY APPEALING BUILDING, BUT IT'S ALSO BEEN THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED, UH, TO LEAD GOLD CERTIFICATION STANDARDS.

AND, UH, THE BUILDING WILL CONSIST OF APPROXIMATELY 54,000 SQUARE FEET.

UM, IT'S BEEN DESIGNED TO FIT, UH, INTO THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS.

SO WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS TO MINIMIZE DISTURBANCE OF ANY AREAS ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH HAVEN'T BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISTURBED.

UM, AND, UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS SOME DISTURBANCE OF SLOPES.

UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK MIKE, UM,

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MIKE YOUNGINS TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE PLAN PORTION OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN OUR ARCHITECT, MITCH, CAN TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

UM, AS AARON MENTIONED, UM, WE ARE SEEKING A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOUR BOARD TO THE TOWN BOARD IN CONNECTION WITH OUR APPLICATION FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL.

AND THEN, UM, WE ARE ALSO THEN BEFORE YOU FOR A STEEP SLOPES PERMIT.

AND THAT WILL ULTIMATELY REQUIRE A HEARING BEFORE THIS BOARD AT SUCH TIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK TYPICALLY YOU DO THAT AFTER THE TOWN BOARD COMPLETES ITS ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OF THE PROJECT.

I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN.

THANK YOU, JANET.

I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN JUST FOR A MOMENT TO INDICATE THAT THE VILLAGE HAS BEEN, UH, MADE AWARE AND INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, UH, OF THIS PROJECT.

OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING ITS APPLICATIONS THERE, WE DO HAVE THE VILLAGE ENGINEER, MR. PINELLA, ON THE MEETING THIS EVENING.

HE HAS PROVIDED COMMENTS TO BOTH THE APPLICANT AND TO THE TOWN ON THE PROJECT, AND WE'RE HAPPY, UH, IF THERE'S TIME TO HEAR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS HE MAY HAVE AS PART OF THIS MEETING.

SO I JUST WANT THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

BUT WE'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE APPLICANT, UH, THE PROJECT TEAM FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL.

UH, THIS, UH, MIKE JONES.

I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER.

JUST WANNA GIVE A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH, UH, VIEW ON THE, UH, THE TECHNICAL ISSUES ON THE PROJECT SCREEN.

UH, JUST TO, UH, REITERATE A LITTLE BIT WHAT JANET SAID.

UM, THESE ARE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THE EXISTING MAP THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED.

UH, TODAY WE HAVE AN EXISTING SPINE ROAD THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT WILL REMAIN, UH, THAT EXTENDS THE MAIN DRIVEWAY DOWN TO BEWICK, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF , IS ALSO SOUTH.

UM, AS MENTIONED ALSO, WE'RE RIGHT ON THE TOWN LINE HERE.

UH, THIS IS A CHALLENGING SITE FROM AIKEN.

COMMON DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BASIN HERE IS ABOUT 85 FEET.

UH, AND THIS DESIGN HAS BEEN, UH, DONE IN A WAY THAT REALLY TAKES ADVANTAGE OF, THAT GIVES A VERY NICE AESTHETIC, UH, WHILE MAINTAINING THAT EXISTING SPINE ROAD AND PROVIDING A, A VERY NICE CONNECTION IN IT.

AND COMMON, UH, IF WE LOOK AT THE PROPOSED PLAN, UH, THERE ARE, ARE THREE ELEMENTS HERE.

YOU HAVE THE MAIN UPPER WITH THE BUILDING HERE, UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE, UH, A CONNECTION INTO THAT EXISTING SPINE ROAD WHERE ADDING A DROP OFF FOR THE FRONT OF THE, THE NEW ARTS BUILDING HERE.

UH, AND THEN WE'RE ADDING A NEW PARKING LOT IN THE AREA OF THE PREVIOUS, UH, ZOFF GYM HERE.

THIS IS GONNA BE AT THE LOWER LEVEL, AND WE HAVE A RAMP THAT BRINGS YOU DOWN TO THAT PARKING AREA.

UM, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, THE GRAY RISES FROM THIS DROP OFF TO THE BACK.

WE HAVE TWO SETS OF STAIRS.

WE'LL BRING YOU TO A MIDDLE ENTRY HERE THAT THE ARCHITECT CAN TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT.

AND THEN ADDITIONAL STEPS TO BRING IT UP TO THE BACK WHERE THERE'S AN OPEN AMPUTATE SPACE THAT THEN CONNECTS, UH, UP INTO .

UM, DOWN IN THE LOWER AREA, WE'RE PROPOSING ADDITIONAL PARKING IMPROVEMENTS, ONE EXPANSION OF THIS LOT, WHICH IS TODAY ABOUT HALF THIS SIZE.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE EXISTING GRAVEL LOT BY BENEDICT AVENUE, UH, JUST TO GIVE IT A MORE FORMAL AND MORE EFFICIENT PARKING LOT TO BE USED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THIS, UH, WE ALSO ARE PROPOSED PART, THE DRAINAGE TO PROVIDE A NEW DETENTION BASIN BASE OF THE HERE THAT WILL MANAGE STORMWATER FROM THE STOVE AREAS OF THE SITE, UH, AND PROVIDE A CONNECTION DOWN TO THE EXISTING CONNECTION AT, UM, , UH, PROVIDING LOWER TREATMENT ATTENTION.

IT CURRENTLY ISN'T EXIST SITE.

UM, IT'S ONLY A MODEST INCREASE OF, UH, IMPERVIOUS BASED ON THE OF PREVIOUS KILLING, UM, WHICH YOU CAN SEE.

WE, UH, WE ACTUALLY PROVIDE A REDUCED STORMWATER PEAK BASED ON THIS CONFIGURATION FROM TODAY.

UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE VILLAGE ALSO ON DEFINING OUR STORMWATER APPROACH.

UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND SOME ADDITIONAL WORK WE NEED TO DO TO, UH, SATISFY THEIR, UH, UH, NEED FOR, UM, MANAGEMENT OF STORMWATER OFF THE SITE.

UH, PROPOSED PARKING AS MENTIONED ACTUALLY ADDS, UM, 56 SPACES TO THE EXISTING 749, UH, RESULTING IN A TOTAL OF 805 SPACES

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FOR THE SITE AS A WHOLE, WHICH A WELL IN EXCESS OF STANDARDS IN EITHER MUNICIPALITY, CAN'T SEE HERE.

OTHER ONE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE STEEP .

THIS IS THE STEEP SLOPE FOR THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.

UM, THE, THE SITE TODAY HAS A, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE, ESPECIALLY IN GREENBURG, WHICH IS PLAY THE LINE AS OF THE ART CENTER TODAY, AMONG THE PREVIOUS.

WE ARE ACTUALLY ONLY ADDING ON THE GREENBERG SIDE A VERY MODEST AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL, UH, ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 0.1 ACRES FOR THE MOST PART IN THAT PREVIOUS DISTURBANCE FOOTPRINT OF THE PREVIOUS, UH, ARTS BUILDING AND THE POOL AREA.

THE MAJORITY OF THE DISTURBANCE IS ACTUALLY ON THE VILLAGE SIDE WITH THE, UM, REMOVAL OF , BUILDING THE ADDITIONAL DETENTION BASE, AND THEN SLOPE CUTTING.

AND THEN THE, UH, PARKING LOTS.

UH, WE IN ADDITIONAL 0.27 WITH THE EXISTING, UH, 0.45 ACRES OF DISTURBANCE ON, UH, THE SIDE.

UH, ALSO THE TREE REMOVAL, THE STANDARD OF DISTURBANCE, WHICH IS THE GAS LINE AROUND THE CORNER OF THE PRIVATE HERE, RESULTS IN 34 TREES BEING REMOVED ON THE GREENBERG SIDE AND 35 TREES REMOVED ON THE SIDE.

UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS ON HOW THAT WAS SHOWN.

WE'LL BE UPDATING FUNDS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN ON SO FAR.

UH, IN ADDITION, JUST TO OFFSET, UH, THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY, UH, ROBUST LANDSCAPING PLAN, WHICH IS GONNA A LOT OF PERIMETER TREES THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

UM, IN ADDITION, WE ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING AT THE BASE OF THE BUILDING HERE, ASSIST THAT AND GRAB SOME OF THE, UH, STORM WATER, UH, NOT ONLY FOR LEAD, UH, BUT ALSO TO, UH, PROVIDE IRRIGATION FOR THE PLANNING WELL BEING PROVIDED AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL SUSTAINABLE STEP.

WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING A BIO RETENTION BASIN IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TURNAROUND HERE.

AGAIN, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL GREEN ASPECTS TO THE PROJECT.

UH, YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT PLANNING PROPOSED TO OFFSET THOSE THREE RENEWALS AROUND THE PARKING LOT AS .

AND JUST TO SHOW HERE, I'VE MENTIONED THIS IS THE TREE RENEWAL PLAN BASED ON, UH, EACH OF THE, UH, MUNICIPALITIES, UH, CLEARLY INDICATING THE TYPE NUMBER.

.

ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I HAVE, I HAVE TWO.

YES.

I'VE SEEING HOW, UM, THE PROPERTY IS ON TWO MUNICIPALITIES AND TREES WILL BE TAKEN OFF OF EACH SIDE.

HOW DOES, UH, GREENBERG TREE LAW COMPARES TO, UH, TERRYTOWN TREE WATER? DO, ARE WE GONNA HAVE A CONSISTENT POLICY OF REPLACEMENT OF TREES OR THERE BE TWO SEPARATE POLICIES THAT WE FOLLOW IN TERMS OF REPLACEMENT OF THE TREES? UH, THEY'LL BE HANDLED SEPARATELY BASED ON EACH MUNICIPALITY COMPLIANCE.

OKAY.

UM, MY OTHER QUESTION IS THAT, COULD YOU HAVE A CROSS SECTION OF, UH, OF THE BUILDING SO WE COULD SEE THE SLOPE OF, UH, OF, UH, THE SLOPE OF THE PROPERTY COMPARED TO, UH, HOW THE BUILDING WILL FIT INTO THAT SLOPE? BECAUSE YOU INDICATED THAT, UH, THE BUILDING IS BEING BUILT INTO THE SLOPE, SO IT'LL BE LESS SLOPE DISTURBANCE.

IT'LL BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD SEE A, A CROSS SECTION SO WE COULD VISUALIZE THAT.

SURE.

AND, AND THERE'S SOME IMAGES COMING UP THAT THE ARCHITECT GONNA TALK ABOUT, WHICH I THINK THEY'RE GONNA ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE ACROSS.

OKAY.

AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY, NO, MY OTHER POINT ALSO IS THAT AS, UH,

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IT WAS INDICATED THIS WAS A MASTER PLAN THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

I THINK THERE'S THREE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD WHO, WHO WERE NOT INVOLVED WITH THAT AND HAVE NEVER BEEN ON THE SITE.

SO I, I THINK A, UH, UH, A SITE VISIT WOULD HELPFUL TO THE BOARD, SO TO BRING THOSE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS UP TO SPEED, UH, ON WHAT'S BEING DEVELOPED AND, UH, ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND THEY COULD SEE WHAT WAS ALREADY DEVELOPED SO THEY COULD PUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IN PROPER CONTEXT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I COORDINATE, IT'S DECADES, NOT YEARS, AND WE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU COME VISIT.

OKAY.

SO I WILL ASK DEPUTY, UH, SCHMIDT TO, UM, ARRANGE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

WILL DO.

UH, ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE? UH, WELL, WE HAVE SOME MORE MR. CHAIRMAN, SO MIKE, MAYBE YOU SHOULD, UH, LET ME TAKE THE SCREEN AND THEN MITCH, I'LL ROLL IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

MITCH, ARE YOU, UH, I'LL JUST INTRODUCE MITCH REESE FROM KELLY CLARK, WHO'S OUR ARCHITECT.

OKAY.

UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF IMAGES WHICH MIGHT ANSWER YOUR, UM, UM, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE ELEVATION, BUT MAYBE IF NOT, WE CAN PULL UP SOME OTHERS.

YEAH.

UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS MITCH HAM.

YEAH, JUST, JUST TO ANSWER THAT, UH, WE'VE, UH, IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE.

A CROSS SECTION JUST ANSWERS, UH, A MULTITUDE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE SLOPE.

SO I, I FIND THAT TO BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL WHEN YOU HAVE THE CROSS SECTION.

SO YOU COULD JUST TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND YOU SAY, UHHUH.

NOW I UNDERSTAND.

MITCH LIA, DO YOU HAVE A CROSS SECTION YOU CAN BRING UP AFTER I STOP SHARING? UM, SURE.

WELL, WELL, WELL, YES, I'M SURE WE DO.

UM, IN ONE OF OUR, IN ONE OF OUR SETS, UH, I'M HOPING THAT, UH, SOME OF THESE IMAGES WILL GIVE, UH, MR. SIMON A, A GOOD, UM, A GOOD IDEA OF THE, OF THE SLOPES.

UM, UH, MY, MY NAME IS MITCH HIRSH.

I'M THE DESIGN PRINCIPAL FOR KELLY CLARK PEL IN NEW HAVEN, CONNECTICUT.

WE'RE, UH, HONORED TO BE WORKING WITH, UH, THE, WITH LEY SCHOOL ON THIS VERY TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT.

UM, THE REASON IT'S TRANSFORMATIONAL FOR THE, FOR BOTH, I THINK IN THE END, UH, THE HACKLEY COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, IS BECAUSE IT'S BRINGING TOGETHER, UM, A GROUP OF PERFORMING AND CREATIVE ARTS THAT, UH, NORMALLY IS NOT IN ONE HOME.

UH, IT'S BRINGING TOGETHER MUSIC, THEATER, COMPUTER SCIENCE, AND VISUAL ARTS.

IT'S A, UH, GOING TO BE A CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE CENTER, UM, FOR PERFORMING AND VISUAL ARTS AND COMPUTER SCIENCE.

UM, THIS BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE SLOPE AND BECAUSE, UH, IN SOME WAYS OF ITS ADDRESS DOES NOT HAVE A BACK, IT HAS MANY FRONTS.

UM, AND THE FRONT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE FRONT THAT FACES THE, UH, BENEDICT AVENUE ENTRANCE AND THE DRIVE, UH, TO, TO THE DROP OFF OF THE, UH, OF THE BUILDING ITSELF FROM WHICH, UH, PARKING IS ACROSS THE STREET, AND THEN DOWN THE, DOWN THE ROAD TOWARDS, UH, BENEDICT.

UH, IT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, A SIMPLE BUILDING THAT IS COMPOSED OF TWO CRESCENT, ONE CRESCENT, WHICH, UH, EMBRACES AND ENGAGES, UH, THE ENTRANCE AND THE COMMUNITY.

AND THE SECOND CRESCENT EMBRACES A IN COMMON, WHICH JANET TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHICH IS THE MAJOR HACKLEY PUBLIC SPACE UP THE SLOPE, UH, BETWEEN THE, UH, LOWER MIDDLE AND UPPER SCHOOLS.

NEXT.

HI, CAPTAIN .

SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS A VIEW, UH, ABOVE THE UPPER SCHOOL, LOOKING AT THE A AND COMMON LEVEL ON THE RIGHT.

UH, AND THEN WHAT WE CALL A SCHOLAR REGIA, WHICH IS TODAY A NATURAL, UH, SLOPE AND SET OF STAIRS THAT CONNECTS THE LOWER, UH, FIELD TO THE WEST, TO AIKEN COMMON ON THE EAST.

AND THERE IS A THIRD FACADE ALONG THAT WALK, WHICH IS THE FACADE THAT LOOKS INTO THE LOBBY, UH, AND THE, UM, IN THE BACK OF THE HALL, UH, THE PERFORMANCE HALL, WHICH IS A 550 SEAT PERFORMANCE HALL.

SO THAT'S THE THIRD FRONT.

UH, PETER, THE, IF YOU GO TO THE EAST

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SIDE OF THE EAST CRESCENT, UH, WITH YOUR ARROW, UM, THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE CRESCENT THAT FACES THEY IN COMMON.

WE SAW WHAT FACES, UH, THE FIELDS AND BENEDICT.

AND FROM ACTUALLY UP, UH, IN THE BUILDING ONE, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, THE CUOMO BRIDGE.

UM, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

OH, UH, SORRY, PETER, SORRY.

UM, THERE IS ALSO AN AMPHITHEATER, WHICH IS WORKED INTO THE COMPOSITION AT THE AIKEN COMMON END, UH, THAT WILL HAVE INFORMAL, UH, SEATING, UH, AND, UH, WILL BE ABLE TO BE ACCESSED BY THE, UH, BY THE FUNCTIONS, UH, ADJACENT TO IT.

NEXT, THIS IS THE AIKEN COMMON, UH, VIEW.

NOW, THESE ARE ALL CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS, SO I WOULDN'T TAKE THEM LITERALLY IN TERMS OF MATERIALITY AT THIS POINT, BUT WHAT THEY DO IS SHOW A MASSING RELATIONSHIP.

UH, AND IN THIS ONE, A CAN COMMON, IT'S A, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A, A HUMBLE, UH, QUIET, UH, ELEVATION THAT BRIDGES, UH, AND, AND FILLS THE, UH, THE GAP AT THE END OF COMMON BETWEEN THE UPPER SCHOOL AND THE LOWER SCHOOL IN SCALE WITH THE ACTIVITIES OF THAT OPEN SPACE.

NEXT.

UH, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

OKAY.

UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND, AND THE, THE, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ELEVATION DIFFERENCE IS ACTUALLY A WONDERFUL ONE BECAUSE IN, IN MANY WAYS, THE ELEVATION DIFFERENCE OF APPROXIMATELY, AND, UH, I'LL LET, UH, MICHAEL TELL US EXACTLY, BUT ABOUT 40 FEET FROM A COMMON DOWN TO THE, TO THE, UH, LOOP ROAD CREATED THE DESIGN FOR THE BUILDING, AND THE DESIGN FOR THE BUILDING IS ALL ABOUT TERRACING FROM ONE LEVEL, FROM ONE LEVEL TO THE OTHER LEVELS.

UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE ARE WORKING, UH, HARMONIOUSLY WITH THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE TO BRING THE FIELDS LEVEL TO THE AIKEN COMMON LEVEL TOGETHER IN A NATURAL, UH, RELAXED, UH, MANNER.

UH, ALL, ALL ALONG HAVING VIEWS AND ENTRANCES.

SO THAT ACCESSIBILITY AT ALMOST ANY LEVEL IS, UH, IS, IS THE MAIN PRIORITY.

UM, LEMME SEE IF, CELIA, DO YOU HAVE ANY IMAGES, UH, A CROSS SECTION, UH, THAT MR. SIMON HAD ASKED ABOUT BEFORE? YES, WE CAN.

UH, WE HAVE THE, UH, SECTIONS FROM, UM, EARLIERS.

SURE.

LET ME SHARE THE SCREEN.

SURE.

THANK YOU, CELIA.

EXCELLENT.

SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, WE USE THREE D, UH, DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY.

AND RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE BUILDING CUT, UM, RIGHT DOWN, UH, ALMOST DOWN THE MIDDLE OF, OF, UH, OF ITSELF.

AND YOU COULD SEE THAT IT'S, IT'S QUITE A DROP.

WHAT YOU DON'T SEE HERE IS THE GRACEFUL CONNECTIONS FROM ONE LEVEL TO THE OTHER, AND, UM, UH, THAT, THAT WE HAVE BUILT INTO THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF WHERE THIS PARTICULAR SECTION HAS BEEN CUT.

BUT YOU SEE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SCALE THE BUILDING, UH, TO EACH OF THE LEVELS.

IT ADDRESSES IN A, IN A HARMONIOUS MANNER, SO THAT ON THE LEFT, THE WESTERN, UH, CRESCENT IS SCALED TO THE FIELDS.

UH, AND IT'S NOT OVERWHELMING.

THE EAST CRESCENT IS SCALED TO THE, UH, UPPER, MIDDLE AND LOWER SCHOOLS, AND THEY CAN COMMENT AND IT, IT, AGAIN, DOES NOT OVERWHELM IT.

AND THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THE PUZZLE, WHICH IS THE PERFORMANCE HALL, IS BETWEEN THE TWO AND SOME, AND IN SOMEWHAT HIDDEN, UH, AND, AND, UH, MEDIATES THE ENTIRE BUILDING FOR ALL THE CURRICULUM.

NOW, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS IS THAT IF, IF THE PERFORMANCE SPACE WAS EXPOSED, UM, ITS FACADE WAS EXPOSED, TYPICALLY THEIR BLANK WALLS, BECAUSE ACOUSTICALLY AND THEATRICALLY LIGHT AND SOUND, UH, CAUSE IT TO BE, UM, IN SOME WAYS BLANK WALLS.

BUT BY PUTTING IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COMPOSITION, IT ALLOWS FOR HUMAN ACTIVITY TO HAPPEN ON ALL OF THE FACADES, UH, WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT ANY DETRIMENT TO THE CAMPUS.

OKAY.

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NOW, ARCHITECTURALLY, YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION, BUT WHAT I, AND YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE LAYOUT HERE THAT THEN, AND THE MANY CONSIDERATIONS THAT WENT INTO THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE BUILDING.

HOWEVER, I WAS ASKING A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION THAT IS, IF YOU JUST OVERLAY, YOU CAN USE THE SAME DIAGRAM, JUST OVERLAY THE CURRENT TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND.

SO YOU, WE COULD VISUALIZE HOW, WHAT, WHAT EFFECT THAT HAS ON THE CURRENT DEPOSIT.

THAT'S ACTUALLY, THAT, THAT, I, I APOLOGIZE.

I MISSED THAT, THAT, UM, SUBTLETY IN YOUR QUESTION.

LET ME SAY THAT, UM, THE, THE GROUND LEVEL IS ACTUALLY THE SAME GROUND LEVEL TODAY.

ONCE TODAY, ONCE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE RAISED, WE ARE NOT GOING DOWN ANY FURTHER OR COMING UP ANY FURTHER.

SO WE'RE KEEPING THE EXISTING LEVEL.

WE'RE ALSO KEEPING THE EXISTING, UH, IF YOU WILL, IN QUOTES, STA SLOPE FROM THE UPPER SCHOOL ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING ARE DOWN AND AROUND TO THE, UH, TO THE LOOP ROAD.

UM, SO I'M NOT DOUBTING, I'M NOT DOUBTING ANYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.

I'M NOT DOUBTING, BUT I'M SAYING A PICTURE WOULD BE JUST ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS IF YOU JUST OVERLAY THE CURRENT SLOPE OF THE LAND AGAINST YOUR DIAGRAM.

AND THAT WILL ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

SO YOU COULD VISUALIZE, THIS IS THE SLOPE OF THE LAND NOW, AND WHEN YOU CONSTRUCT A BUILDING, THIS WILL BE THE EFFECT ON THE SLOPE OF THE LAND YOU SEE.

UH, AND THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

UM, I WOULD HAVE TO TURN TO MY, TO OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO, UH, FOR THAT COMPARISON.

UH, MIKE.

YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY COME UP WITH.

OKAY.

THAT'S GONNA BE AN ELABORATION ON THE STEVE .

THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING FOR.

YEAH, WE CAN HAVE THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE, UH, UH, WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES.

I WANTED TO LET THE BOARD MEMBERS SPEAK FIRST, BUT I DO HAVE A COMMENT IF IT DOESN'T COME UP AHEAD OF TIME.

UM, I, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

THE, UM, THE RENDERING THAT SHOWED THE BRIDGE IN THE BACKGROUND, UM, MADE IT LOOK LIKE THE TOP STORY OF THE BUILDING WAS SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE THE FORESTED AREA THERE.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HOW VISIBLE IS THIS FROM THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY? THIS GONNA STICK WAY OUT OF THE TREES OR NOT? NOW THIS ONE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU CAN EVEN SEE THE BACK PART.

NO, NO.

IT'S LIKE, LIKE, UM, I WAS SAYING BEFORE THE, UM, THE TERRACING OF THE BUILDING FROM TOP, TAKING COMMON TO THE LOOP ROAD, UH, AVOIDS ANY, UM, WHAT I WOULD CALL IS ISSUES OF SORE THUMBS .

UM, IT, UH, IT, IT, THE, THE TALLER, THE TALLER PARTS OF THE BUILDING ARE CLOSER TO COMMON AND VIEW LINES OBSCURE THAT, ALRIGHT.

THE, THE, THE IMAGE THAT WAS JUST SHOWN WAS NOT THE ONE I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

IT WAS THE ONE FROM LOOKING AT WEST, FROM EAST.

SO THERE NOW THAT SECOND ONE.

THAT SECOND ONE, NOPE, THE ONE, YEAH, I'M SORRY.

THAT IS ME.

IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE IT'S SITTING WAY ABOVE EVERYTHING.

YOU HAVE A LATER VIEW WHERE WE ARE SHOWING THE REST OF THE CAMPUS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT TIC.

SO MAYBE THIS IS JUST NOT, I THINK THAT'S JUST TO DEMONSTRATE A VIEW FROM ABOVE, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE WHOLE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE FROM ABOVE AND FROM FARTHER AWAY.

BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S VIS THAT'S VISIBLE OUTSIDE OF THE CAMPUS.

NO, ACTUALLY, YEAH, ACTUALLY, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE UPPER SCHOOL IS ACTUALLY TALLER THAN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING.

YOU SEE THAT? SO THE UPPER, YEAH, YOU HAD ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER SHOT OF IT LOOKING OTHER DIRECTION IN THE SAME SITUATION.

JUST THAT ONE IMAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE, YEAH, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S THAT, THAT IMAGE IS A MORE OF A BIRD'S EYE IMAGE, UM, FROM ABOVE THE UPPER SCHOOL.

OKAY.

MAYBE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU HAD SUCH A, YEAH.

TAKE A VIEW FROM BENEDICT AVENUE INTO THE CAMPUS SO THAT WAY YOU COULD SEE

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WHAT EFFECT, AND THE FACT THAT, AS YOU INDICATED THAT IT BUILT INTO THE SLOPE, THE FACT THAT THERE'S ANOTHER BUILDING ON THE, ON THE CAMPUS, WHICH IS HIGHER.

SO MAY, UH, MAY, SO A, A VIEW FROM BENEDICT AVENUE LOOKING INTO THE CAMPUS WILL JUST, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, PICTURES, JUST A THOUSAND WORDS IN ONE PICTURE.

IT WILL INDICATE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHICH WOULD BE, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR YOUR APPLICATION.

RIGHT.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS BUILDING IS ALSO REPLACING TWO EXISTING BUILDINGS, WHICH ARE THERE TODAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF AS WELL.

YEAH.

SO, AND, AND HERE AGAIN, A SIMPLE PICTURE TO SAY, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE CURRENT BUILDING AND THE BUILDING WE'RE PUTTING IN IT'S, UH, GREATER VIEW.

IT'S, IT'S, IT DOESN'T BLOCK.

SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WILL MAKE FOR STRONG APPLICATION IF YOU COULD CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE THESE, WHICH I THINK SHOULD BE A VERY EASY THING TO DO.

YES.

I, THAT'S GOOD ADVICE.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACCOMPLISH.

OKAY.

MYRNA MON? YES.

YES.

UM, NOW I'M NOT SURE IF I HEARD IT OR I READ IT.

ARE YOU APPLYING FOR GOLD LEAD CERTIFICATION WITH THIS BUILDING? PETER SHAKING HIS HEAD, YES.

YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

THE ANSWER IS YES.

AND YOU READ IT.

UH, YOU READ IT, AND I ALSO SAID IT EARLIER.

OKAY.

SO CAN SOMEBODY SPEAK TO SOME OF THE SUSTAINABILITY, UM, PORTIONS THAT YOU WILL BE, UM, USING WITH THIS BUILDING OR SURE.

BE A PART OF THIS BUILDING.

MITCH, WE, WE DID YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT? WE'D BE HAPPY TO SELL YOU.

UM, MY, MY COLLEAGUE ELIA CHE, WHO'S A SENIOR ASSOCIATE, OUR FIRM IS ACTUALLY LEADING THE LEAD EFFORT, UM, WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY CONSULTANTS AT TELE A 10 FROM NEW YORK CITY.

UM, SELIA, WHY DON'T YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES.

YES, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I THINK THAT IS A WONDERFUL QUESTION.

VERY GOOD TO OUR HEARTS.

AND WE ARE ENDEAVORING VERY HARD TO, UH, ACCOMPLISH THE LEAD VERSION FOURTH, WHICH IS EXTREMELY DEMANDING AND A LOT MORE THAN THE PREVIOUS LEAD VERSION DID THAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED AROUND THE, THE TOWN VILLAGE.

SO, UH, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, STORM WATER, WITH MINIMIZING PRODUCT, WITH MINIMIZING, UH, WATER USE, BOTH FIXTURES, THAT KIND OF STRATEGIES MINIMIZING ENERGY USE AROUND THE BUILDING.

SO ENDEAVORING TO SPECIFY THE RIGHT OF EQUIPMENT, START STAR LOW ENERGY INTENSITY.

UH, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT INDOOR AIR QUALITY, UH, ISSUES IN TERMS OF THE MATERIALS WE'RE SPECIFYING HOW WE ARE APPORTIONING SPACES RELATIVE TO DAY LIGHTING IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE BOTH HEAT GAIN AND ENERGY PERCEPTION.

AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER STRATEGIES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE SITE, WITH, UH, KIND OF REPLACING, UH, THE LANDSCAPE, THE, THE TREE REMOVALS THAT, UH, WE MENTIONED EARLIER WITH MY HUMANS.

AND, UH, MINIMIZING DISTURBANCE, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACES AND THE WATER RETENTION AND DETENTION THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, AS WELL AS LIGHTING STRATEGIES TO MINIMIZE LIKE POLLUTION.

UM, ANY DISTURBANCE TO WILDLIFE THAT'S JUST PERHAPS YOU WOULD CONSIDER, UM, SOME ELECTRIC CHARGERS FOR YOUR, UM, PARKING FACILITIES.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON OUR PORTION, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT OUTSIDE OF THIS PROJECT.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

WE, WE ALREADY HAVE FOUR OF THEM AND GETTING OH, ABSOLUTELY.

MORE.

THEY'RE GETTING, INCREASING, INCREASING DEMAND.

YES.

YES.

MORE, MORE .

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY, HUH? YES.

UH, AND I APOLOGIZE IF YOU TOUCHED ON IT, BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT ACCOMMODATIONS.

I WAS WONDERING, YOU TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, UH, HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY AND, AND ACCOMMODATION.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS A SLOPE, THERE'S A LOT OF STAIRS.

UH, GET A SENSE OF WHERE THE PARKING SPACES ARE AND AND ACCESS TO THE BUILDING FOR THOSE FOLKS.

APPRECIATE THAT.

WANNA TAKE THAT, MATT? YEAH, I'LL TAKE THAT.

OH, OKAY.

UM, WELL, , MIGHT YOU SHOW THE DRAWING? DID I SEE THAT? YEP.

UH, HANDICAP PARKING, UM, THE, UH, CLOSEST TO THE, THE BUILDING, UM, AT THE, UH, FRONT OF THE, UH, THE PARKING AREA HERE.

WE DO HAVE A, A SWITCH BACK RAMP ASSOCIATED WITH THAT,

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WHICH BRINGS YOU UP INTO THE BUILDING.

AND I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY IS PROVIDING THIS DROP OFF, UM, WHICH ALLOWS A DIRECT CURB ACCESS, ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE THAT NEED, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL ACCESS.

SO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, HANDICAP CASES AS WELL AS DROP OFF.

AND WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT, UM, WHERE THE ACCESS POINTS ARE TO THE BUILDING.

UH, WELL, MIKE, IF YOU CAN USE YOUR ARROW, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHERE THE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS NEXT TO THE SCHOLAR REGGIE OF STAIRS IN THAT, IN THAT ONE CORNER.

UM, YEAH.

AND, UH, AT THAT, THAT ACCESS POINT, UM, YOUR, YOUR LEVEL, YOUR LEVEL WITH THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, AND THAT'S THE LOBBY THAT GOES ALONG, SWEEPS ALONG THE WHOLE SOUTH SIDE.

UH, THAT'S THE WEST SIDE, MIKE, THE SOUTH IS BOTTOM.

YEAH.

AND, AND AT THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE LOBBY IS AN ELEVATOR THAT WILL TAKE ANYBODY, UM, UH, GOODS AND, UH, PEOPLE, GOODS AND SERVICES UP TO, UM, THE AIKEN COMMON, UM, LEVEL, WHICH IS THE, WHICH IS THE THIRD LEVEL, THE AMPHITHEATER LEVEL IN WHICH WE ALSO HAVE, UH, RAMPS, UH, AT THAT POINT TO TAKE YOU UP TO, UM, EITHER A IN COMMON OR THE, UH, IN ONE DIRECTION OR THE UPPER SCHOOL IN, UH, IN THE OTHER.

UH, AND, UH, WE HAVE BASICALLY TWO SETS OF, UH, A PAIR OF ELEVATORS.

ONE, UM, AT THAT LOCATION I JUST DESCRIBED.

AND THEN MIKE, ANOTHER ONE.

UM, THERE'S THE LOADING DOCK AREA.

AND THEN RIGHT INSIDE THE BUILDING, THERE'S ANOTHER ELEVATOR THAT, UH, GOES UP THROUGH THE BUILDING, UH, TO TAKE GOOD SERVICES AND, AND, UH, AND PEOPLE, UM, AS WELL.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT AND, UH, WE EMBRACE AS MUCH ACCESSIBILITY AS IS POSSIBLE.

AND I THINK FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE'VE, WE ALSO HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE, UM, WE HAVE AN ENTRANCE AND A TERRACE, UM, OFF ANOTHER LEVEL, WHICH IS THE LARGEST PART OF THAT SC REGGIO.

SO, AND WHICH IS ACCESSIBLE BY ELEVATOR AS WELL.

SO WE, WE'VE TRIED VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS, UH, A MULTIFACETED, ACCESSIBLE BUILDING.

OKAY.

WE'RE COMING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE COMING UP TO THE CONCLUSION, UH, EIGHT, UH, EIGHT O'CLOCK, UH, CONCLUSION OF THE CLAIM BOARD.

WHAT, WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS TO SET UP A SITE VISIT AND AFTER THE SITE VISIT, WE THEN WILL HAVE ANOTHER, UH, UM, UH, WORK SESSION.

AND HOPEFULLY AT THAT WORK SESSION, WE'LL BE IN THE POSITION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.

BUT, UH, UH, CHAIRMAN SIMON, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR WEEKEND OR WEEKDAY FOR THE VISIT? GENERALLY SPEAKING, MOST OF OUR SITE VISITS HAVE BEEN ON 10 O'CLOCK SATURDAY MORNING.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

YOU NAME IT AARON AS SOON, AND WE'LL, WE'LL COORDINATE THAT WITH AARON.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, COORDINATE THAT WITH AARON.

UH, AND SO WE COULD DO THAT.

AND THEN AFTER THAT SITE VISIT, THEN WE, WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, WE COULD ASK SOME MORE QUESTIONS.

SO WHEN WE GO BACK INTO THE NEXT WORK SESSION, HOPEFULLY, UH, EVERYTHING OR QUESTIONS WOULD BE ANSWERED AND WE'LL BE IN POSITIONS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

UH, I WOULD, UH, REMIND YOU THAT IN AUGUST WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING.

WE DO NOT HAVE A SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST.

SO, UH, UM, SO IF WE, UH, IF WE, YOU'D LIKE TO GET BACK HERE IN JULY, MR. CHAIRMAN.

OKAY.

GET BACK TO US AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'LL DO MY BEST TO SCHEDULE IT SO, UH, WE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR.

YEAH, I THINK, UH, THERE'S A PUBLICLY NOTICED SITE VISIT IF THAT, THE BOARDS TO GO, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU, WE WILL LOOK TO COORDINATE OVER ONE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL SATURDAYS.

SO I'LL TOUCH BASE WITH THE APPLICANT.

I'LL GAUGE INTEREST FROM BOARD MEMBERS.

WE'LL HAVE TO NOTICE IT.

IF IT, THERE WOULD BE A FORM OF BOARD MEMBERS, UM, WE WOULD'VE TO PUBLICLY NOTICE IT AND MEET THOSE TIMELINES AS WELL.

SO WE WILL COORDINATE THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO, UH, UH, YOU COULD COORDINATE THAT SCARCE AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE APPROPRIATE SATURDAY AND, AND GET THIS DONE.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

HOW DID JANET DO? I MEAN, SHE DID VERY WELL.

I'M, I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT MARK.

ME

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NEITHER .

ME NEITHER.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JOE.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

YOU ALL LOOK FORWARD SEEING EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL.

BYE-BYE.

GOODNIGHT.

GOODNIGHT.

HANG ON A SECOND, AARON.

UM, JUST, UH, DAN CANELLA, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THIS APPLICATION? YES.

UH, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO, UH, SHARE SOME COMMENTS.

I THINK FIRST, AARON, THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALSO INVITING US AND, AND CHAIRMAN, I THINK, UM, I HEARD SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS.

I THINK THEY'RE VERY WELL TAKEN.

UM, MY, ONE OF THE BIG COMMENTS THAT I REALLY APPRECIATED WAS THE LIGHT SHEDDING.

SO THAT SECTION THROUGH THE BUILDING IS VERY IMPORTANT.

MY CONCERN IS THAT THE WESTERN FACING BUILDING, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SAYING IT'S NOT GONNA BE HIGHER THAN THE CURRENT BUILDING, THEY'RE TUCKING IT INTO THE GROUND.

THE CURRENT BUILDING IS BASICALLY, UM, BRICK FACED.

SO THERE IS NOT GONNA BE ANY LIGHT SHEDDING, UH, ONCE THEY, THEY CAN'T POSSIBLY LANDSCAPE IT TO SCREEN IT.

UM, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS WIDE OPEN FIELD, ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTER TIME.

AND, UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS BRIGHT LIGHT ON THIS HUGE BUILDING.

I MEAN, THE BUILDING IS BEAUTIFUL.

UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A CONCERN FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF TARRYTOWN.

I THINK DAN, THIS IS HUGH SCHWARTZ, VICE CHAIR.

UM, WHAT WE DID, IF, IF, IF YOU REMEMBER WITH THE FOOTBALL FIELD, WHICH THAT TOOK A LONG TIME, WE ACTUALLY MADE THEM, UH, DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHERE THE LIGHT WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO.

OKAY.

TO, TO SEE IF IT ACTUALLY WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ACTUALLY BLEEDING OFF OF, OFF OF THE CAMPUS.

YOU KNOW, WITH LEDS IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN IT IS WITH OTHER ONES THAT CAN DO THINGS TO FOCUS IT.

WE CAN ALSO DO THINGS WITH THE HOURS POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE HOURS TO DO IT.

UM, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING THEY CAN MITIGATE INSIDE, UH, AS WELL WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF A CURTAIN THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IS THO HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT'S THAT CALLED? UM, YOU JUST HAD IT ON THE OTHER PROJECT.

YOU HAVE PHOTO GLASS THAT EVEN ON THE INSIDE IT COULD ACTUALLY DARKEN THE DARKEN IT WHEN IT GETS DARK OUTSIDE, AT LEAST LOOKING, LOOKING OUT.

UM, SO THERE, I THINK IT'S A VALID CONCERN.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO IS AARON ASK THEM TO COME BACK, FIRST OF ALL WITH A NIGHT VIEW MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

AND ASK THEM FOR A LIGHTING CONSULTANT THAT WE WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE LIGHTING ENVELOPE.

IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOUR CONCERNS ARE.

APPRECIATE THAT.

DO YEAH.

YOU CAN CALL ME DAN AND I, AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING.

UM, I DO HAVE DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH THIS ON ONE OF OUR OTHER SITES, SO YOU CAN GET THE LIGHT SHEDDING ANALYSIS AND RIGHT.

KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T EMIT LIGHT OFF THE PROPERTY, BUT IT STILL COMES OFF IS THIS BIG BRIGHT BULB.

IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT ON TOP OF A HILL AND YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU COULD SCREEN IT.

WE'VE HAD 'EM PUT SCREENS IN THERE THAT AUTOMATICALLY CLOSE AT A CERTAIN TIME OF THE DAY.

UM, THERE ARE WAYS TO MITIGATE IT.

AS LONG AS YOU KNOW WHERE I'M COMING FROM, I DO DEPRECIATE IT.

I WILL CONVEY THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD ALSO.

UM, YEAH, I I THINK WE NEED, WE NEED THE, THE SIMPLE, THE FIRST THING IS GET A NIGHT VIEW.

YEAH.

UM, DO, ARE THERE, IS THERE DIRECT SIGHT LINES FROM THE TOP OF THAT BUILDING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THAT BIG GLASS PART IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING RIGHT DOWN WHERE, WHERE THE, UH, WHERE YOU CAN SEE INTO THE, THE AUDITORIUM.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT ARE THE TOP THE CLASSROOMS ON THE OTHER SIDE? THE, THE, THE SOUTH FACE, RIGHT.

THE SOUTH FACE, WHICH WAS THE SOUTH FACE WHERE LIKE THERE WAS THAT OUTDOOR KIND OF PEDESTRIAN FRONT ADE AREA.

OKAY.

SO IT IS THE, THAT'S ACTUALLY CLASSROOMS THAT'S NOT EVEN, THAT'S NOT EVEN THE LOBBY AREA ON THAT SIDE.

IT'S A, IT'S A THREE STORY BUILD UP.

RIGHT.

IT'S NOT THE BIG, BIG GLASS THING.

'CAUSE THAT'S LOWER, I THINK.

UM, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS ASK THEM TO DO SITE LINES FROM OFF CAMPUS FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENCE MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

TO EACH OF THOSE.

AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND THE COMPUTER CAN COMPUTER SIMULATE THAT.

SO AT LEAST WE SEE IF IT'S THE CLASSROOMS, IT SHOULD BE EASILY DEALT WITH.

CAN DAN, CAN YOU SHARE, YOU SAID YOU HAD PRIOR EXPERIENCE, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S EXISTING, UH, IN THE VILLAGE OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN LET AARON KNOW SO WE CAN,

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YOU KNOW, WE CAN UNDERSTAND AND SEE WHAT YOU, YOU YOU'VE SEEN ON, UH, THAT PROJECT WILL MAKE THAT THIS A LOT EASIER FOR US, UH, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN GO TO THE APPLICANT AND SAY, HERE, THIS IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT OR THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO MITIGATE IT AND WE CAN DO THIS, YOU KNOW, UPFRONT, UH, WHILE WE'RE GIVING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD RATHER THAN HAVING IT SLOW DOWN.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL MONTHS LATER.

I CAN CERTAINLY CAN.

IT'S, UH, IT'S THE J C C BUILDING.

IT'S A 3 25 SOUTH BROADWAY.

IT'S NOT SIMILAR CONSTRUCTION, BUT THE LIGHT SHED, WHAT BECAME A BIG ISSUE.

SO THEY WENT FROM MASONRY, UH, CONSTRUCTION TO A BUTLER STYLE BUILDING AND WANTED TO GET LIGHTING IN THE BUILDING.

SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY PUT, UH, LARGE GLASS UP, UP HIGH AND AT NIGHT WHEN THEY TURN THE LIGHTS ON, IT'S LIKE A GYMNASIUM AREA OR WORKOUT AREAS.

IT JUST, IT BLEEDS LIGHT.

AND I COULD PROVIDE THOSE PICTURES TO, TO AARON ALSO.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

SO MY, MY CONCERN WOULD BE FROM, UM, MIDLAND AVENUE AND BEVI AND WHAT WE PLANNING BOARD HAS DONE, UH, TO GET A SENSE OF THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, WE'VE ASKED FOR BALLOON TESTS.

SO MAYBE ON THE SITE VISIT, IF IT'S NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR, I CAN ALWAYS INVITE MY BOARD IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN GOING, YOU KNOW, UM, PUT A BALLOON UP AT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, YOU CAN GET, YOU CAN GET A GOOD SENSE OF HOW HIGH IT'S GONNA BE.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.

WE'D LOVE YOUR BOARD.

UH, IF THEY CAN OR YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T SAY HAVE TO IF IF THEY HAVE TO NOTICE IT, UH, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, UH, I WON'T, WON'T NOTICE IT .

SO I THINK WE'LL COVER.

UH, BUT THE SECOND THING IS, AND I'M SURE WALTER, UH, AND WAS, WAS ON HIM REALIZE WE, WALTER WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO UM, BE AVAILABLE JUST LIKE YOU WERE HERE FOR, UM, OUR MEETING.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE RECIPROCAL BEING AVAILABLE FOR UM, THE VILLAGE MEETINGS.

I'LL BELIEVE THERE'D BE WALTER.

MY GUESS IS IT WON'T BE WALTER 'CAUSE WALTER'S KIND OF BUSY.

THEY'LL PROBABLY SOME DESIGNATED MEMBER OF THE BOARD.

IT MIGHT BE WALTER ONLY BECAUSE HE MENTIONED THE TO YESTERDAY.

SO YEAH, IT MIGHT BE, BUT WALTER'S GOT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.

DAN, IF YOU CAN JUST, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, THAT WE HAVE NOTIFICATION, THAT'D BE GREAT.

YEAH.

WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE IT'S, IT IMPACTS YOU.

IT ACTUALLY, SAME THING HAPPENED WITH THE FIELD, BUT THAT IMPACTED TERRYTOWN WASN'T IMPACTED GREENVILLE.

YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON THAT.

SO NOT, NOT A PROBLEM.

OKAY.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO AVOID HAVING PROBLEMS DOWN THE LINE.

ABSOLUTELY.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS ON HERE I'LL JUST BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, WHICH ARE BASICALLY IN MY LETTER THAT I, I WROTE INITIALLY.

AND ONE IS WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER.

AS YOU KNOW, THEY, WE PROVIDE THEM WITH WATER.

INITIALLY WHEN, UH, THEY GOT OUR TAPS OFF MIDLAND AVENUE, IT MADE A LOT OF SENSE.

THEY HAD NO OTHER CHOICE BECAUSE THERE WERE NO OTHER WATER MAINS IN THE AREA WITH ADEQUATE PRESSURE.

UH, BUT SINCE THEN, UM, SINCE THESE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT, UH, I GUESS LATENT EARLY NINETIES, UH, THAT NEW TANK AT, UH, LIKE DUNNINGS DRIVE, GREENBURG HAS A NEW HIGHER TANK THAT'S A HIGHER ELEVATION THAT COULD BETTER SERVE THEIR WATER NEEDS.

AND, UM, WE, WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH HACKLEY AND ALSO THE, UH, ANDY DONNELLEY FROM THE GREENBURG WATER DEPARTMENT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO TRANSFER OVER THEIR WATER SERVICES, WHICH ALSO MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE IT'S WHAT WE CALL IN-DISTRICT AND NOT AN ADDED DISTRICT.

UM, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THIS APPROVAL AND THEY WILL UNDERTAKE IT WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, SEWER, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME KIND OF ANALYSIS.

I KNOW THEY'RE DEMOLISHING OUR BUILDING AND THEY'RE MOVING IT OVER ONTO THE GREENBERG SIDE.

BUT IN THE PAST, FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE RUN OCCURRENCES WHERE THERE'S BEEN SEWER CAPACITY ISSUES AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, UH, GENERATING ANY MORE SEWAGE THEN.

UM, AND WHAT WE COULD HANDLE.

SO BECAUSE MOSTLY THEY'RE GETTING ALL THE SERVICES FROM OUR SIDE OF, OF THE VILLAGE MM-HMM.

.

SO I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE WATER WILL SAVE THEM MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA GET, UM, IN DISTRICT RATES WHICH ARE LOWER THAN THE VILLAGE RATES.

UM, THEY MAY BE USING LESS WATER.

I MEAN IT'S A MUCH NEWER BUILDING.

YOU'VE GOT NEW FIXTURES THAT ARE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT THAN WHEN THAT, THAN THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE WHERE YOU WERE BUILT.

SO IT MAY END UP BEING LESS WATER.

THAT, THAT, THAT'S CORRECT.

THEY HAVE HIGHER EFFICIENCY UNITS, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SITE AS A WHOLE.

I KNOW THIS IS ONE PROJECT I HAVE TO BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EXPANSION.

AND THE OTHER BIG BENEFIT ON THE WATER IS

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THEY HAVE TO USE A BOOSTER PUMP TO GET ADEQUATE PRESSURE IN THE BUILDING.

WHEREAS IF THEY COME OVER TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THERE'S A HUGE SAVINGS RIGHT THERE FOR THEM.

ENERGY COSTS.

YOU'RE BEING GREEN BECAUSE THAT IS A, UH, IT'S A SAVINGS ON, ON A MASS SCALE.

YOU'RE GETTING THE WATER FROM A SOURCE THAT'S ALREADY PUMPING IT UP THERE AND IT'S THERE.

SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S THE BEST ONE THAT I CAN SEE AS FAR AS SAVINGS FOR THEM, SO.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

DAN, I'M GOING TO PLAY LAWYER HERE FOR FOR A SECOND.

SO, UM, WE HAVE CONTINUED THE RECORDING ON THIS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS RELEVANT.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE THIS WITH THE APPLICANT.

EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID IS, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, IS RELEVANT TO THE APPLICATION.

UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WHEN YOU WERE AWARE IN REPORTING, UH, THIS AND TWO, THAT WE ARE GOING TO UH, MAKE SURE THE APPLICANT IS AWARE THAT WE HAD THIS .

UH, IT'S RELEVANT AND, AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THEY ARE AWARE OF IT AND I'VE MENTIONED IT ALSO AT OUR WORK SESSIONS.

THEY'VE LISTENED TO, THEY'VE BEEN AT OUR MEETING, SO I, THIS IS THE SAME INFORMATION I'VE PRESENTED TO THEM, SO NOTHING NEW.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I WANT TAKE OFF.

NICE MEETING YOU, DON, AND HOPE TO SEE YOU IN PERSON.

YOU IT DAN, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, DAN, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

MY REAL NAME'S DONATO.

ROCCO, IT'S, WE SHORTENED DOWN TO DAN AND MAKE IT SIMPLE.

VERY .

OKAY.

NICE MEETING YOU.

OKAY, GOODNIGHT EVERYONE.

EVERYONE.

THANKS.

BYE.

THANK YOU.

BYE NOW.