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AND HARDWARE UPGRADE, UH, THAT WILL
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ALLOW REAL TIME VEHICLE TRACKING AND VIDEO.UH, AFTER REVIEW OF SEVERAL VENDORS AND SEVERAL SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE VERIZON CONNECT VEHICLE TRACKING AND CAMERA SYSTEM FOR USE IN TOWN, D P W AND, UH, BUILDING DEPARTMENT VEHICLES.
UH, THE VERIZON CONNECT TRACKING SYSTEM OFFERS A USER FRIENDLY PLATFORM THAT'S BASED ON GOOGLE MAPS AND HAS FRONT FACING CAMERAS THAT RECORD AND DOCUMENT SIGNIFICANT EVENTS.
SO WITH US TONIGHT, WE HAVE PETER JASICK, UH, WHO'S A, A MAJOR ACCOUNT MANAGER OF VERIZON.
AND, UH, HERE TO SHOW US A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE VERIZON CONNECT SYSTEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, COGNIZANT OF YOUR TIME.
I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF, BUT GET INTO IT AS QUICKLY AS I CAN.
WE'RE VERIZON, WE'RE CALLED VERIZON CONNECT, BUT WE'RE PART OF VERIZON.
WHAT MAKES US VERY UNIQUE IS WE'RE NOT ONLY THE SOLUTION, BUT WE'RE THE NETWORK THAT MOVES THE DATA AND CARRIES THE DATA.
THERE'S A LOT OF SOLUTIONS OUT THERE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF NETWORKS.
IT'S GOTTA PERFORM WHAT YOU NEED TO BE DOING.
THIS IS A BRIEF OVERVIEW ON THIS POWERPOINT THAT I'LL SHOW YOU.
UM, AS YOU SEE, FRANCIS ALSO HAS THAT IN THE THING, HARDWARE.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT HARDWARE THAT GOES IN THE VEHICLE.
THE HARDWARE GETS ATTACHED TO THE O B D TWO PORT, AND THAT ALLOWS TO PULL EXACT DATA.
EACH OF THAT HARDWARE PIECE HAS A BUILT-IN CELL INTO THAT.
SO THAT'S HOW IT CAPTURES THE DATA AND SENDS THE DATA.
IF WE GO DOWN HERE TO THE LOCATION, WE'RE ABLE TO PINPOINT WHERE THE VEHICLES ARE WITHIN 13 FEET.
UM, EVERY 30 SECONDS, THE DEVICES SEND THE INFORMATION TO YOU.
THERE'S NO SOFTWARE THAT'S INSTALLED IN YOUR COMPUTERS AT ALL.
YOU CAN VIEW THIS FROM ANY COMPUTER, FROM ANY LOCATION THAT HAS INTERNET CONNECTIVITY.
SO IT'S VERY SIMPLE, VERY EASY TO USE.
IF WE GO DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER WORKFORCE MANAGEMENT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEND OUT IN THE FIELD ON MOBILE DEVICES WHERE YOU'VE BEEN, WHAT YOU DID, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, A CITIZEN SAYS, YOU KNOW, THAT VEHICLE WASN'T THERE WHEN THE SNOWS WERE PLOWED.
DO YOU HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS? HERE'S A REPLAY OF EXACTLY WHERE THE VEHICLE WAS, WHEN AND HOW IF THAT VEHICLE HIT SOMETHING.
ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CAPTURE THAT, AND YOU'RE ABLE TO GET THAT DATA IN A MOMENT'S NOTICE.
IF WE COME DOWN HERE, COMPLIANCE THAT SHOWS US THAT IF, IF THERE'S HARSH DRIVING EVENTS, SPEEDING EVENTS, THINGS LIKE THIS, I LIKEN IT NOT TO CATCHING SOMEBODY, BUT PROVING THAT SOMEONE DID THE JOB THAT THEY SAID THEY WERE DOING.
SOMEONE SAYS THAT VEHICLE WAS GOING, WE HAVE A STORY IN NEW JERSEY STREET.
SWEEPER GETS PULLED OFF THE ROAD.
THEY WERE, IT, THE ACCUSATION WAS THEY WERE SEXUALLY HARASSING SOMEONE THAT'S A SERIOUS ACCUSATION.
HE PULLED THE DRIVER OFF THE ROAD.
DRIVER SAID, I DID NOT DO THIS.
THEY SAW IT WAS A VEHICLE OFF THE GARDEN STATE PARKWAY.
ITS HAPPENED TO BE IN NEW JERSEY.
THAT DRIVER WENT BACK AND SAID, THIS JUST SAVED MY JOB,
SO THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE WAS JUST ENORMOUS FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
AND IT IN ANOTHER COMPLIANCE STORY REALLY QUICK WITH OUR VIDEO.
THERE WAS A, A GARBAGE TRUCK GOING DOWN THE ROAD.
A VEHICLE CAME AND CUT OFF THE GARBAGE TRUCK STOPPED.
GARBAGE TRUCK REAR-ENDED THE VEHICLE.
HOW IN THE WORLD COULD YOU EVER PROVE THAT THE GARBAGE TRUCK WASN'T AT FAULT? THE VIDEO PROVED THAT 'CAUSE IT SAW THE GARBAGE TRUCK.
IF SO, NOW YOU HAVE THAT AND WE HAVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE BUILT IN.
SO HARSH BRAKING, HARSH DRIVING THROUGH A STOP SIGN, TAILGATING.
THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY POP UP AND GET SENT TO YOU AUTOMATICALLY.
THEN YOU COULD DOWNLOAD THAT, THE DATA OF WHERE THE VEHICLE WAS.
YOU HAVE FIVE YEARS WORTH OF DATA THAT YOU CAN GO BACK AND GET IF YOU NEED.
THERE'S NO PROPRIETARY WAYS TO DOWNLOAD IT.
YOU JUST TAKE IT, YOU DOWNLOAD IT.
YOU CAN HAVE AN, I WAS SAYING TO BRIAN, YOU CAN HAVE THE IT DEPARTMENT DO AN AUTOMATIC DUMP EVERY MONTH AND JUST COLLECT THE DATA AFTER A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME.
YOU MAY SAY, LOOK, WE DON'T WANT IT 13 MONTHS OR WHATEVER.
IF WE GO HERE FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU HAVE DASHBOARDS, THIS IS WHERE THEY'LL, THEY'LL USE IT FROM PUBLIC WORKS.
YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE WHAT TRENDS ARE GOING.
YOU KNOW, ARE WE USING TOO MUCH GAS? ARE WE IDLING TOO MUCH? ARE WE OUTSIDE THE ZONE? WHERE DO WE FIT? ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE? ALL THIS THING IS ARE ALL AVAILABLE TO YOU AND GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
YOU HAVE ABILITY TO CREATE YOUR OWN DASHBOARDS TOO.
THIS GOES THROUGH THE, THE VIDEO.
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FACING VIDEO.SOME PEOPLE CALL IT DASH CAMS. UH, MY GRANDFATHER USED TO SAY, UH, A STORE A BOOK BEATS A THOUSAND WORDS, BUT A VIDEO TELLS THE WHOLE STORY.
WE, THERE'S FLEET TRACKING MANAGEMENT REPORTS TO SEE WHEN OIL CHANGES ARE NEEDED.
YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, ROTATE TIRES, UM, FROM A PUBLIC WORK STANDPOINT, HEY, THESE VEHICLES KEEP BLOWING ENGINE CODES.
MAYBE IT'S TIME TO, THIS IS OUR, OUR PURPOSE.
AND THAT TIES INTO OBVIOUSLY MAINTENANCE, ANY MAINTENANCE THAT'S PERFORMED.
WE DO ALSO INTEGRATE WITH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT USERS OUT THERE.
ONE HAPPENS TO BE ASSET WORKS THAT A LOT OF LARGE TOWNS USE.
SO THEY CREATE THE WORK ORDER, BUT THEY'RE PULLING THE ODOMETER READING FROM THE VEHICLE, AND THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO TIE THAT ALL TOGETHER.
FUEL CARD INTEGRATIONS, IF YOU USE THAT
UM, IF WE HAVE OPEN A P I, SO WE'LL SEND OUR DATA TO WHOEVER WANTS IT BASED UPON YOUR, UM, YOUR, YOUR VISUAL, UH, ALL TYPES OF INTEGRATIONS.
LIKE I SAID, FUEL CARDS, ASSET WORKS, GAS BOY, ALL TYPES OF THOSE.
UM, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO DO MORE.
THERE'S A NEW COMPANY WE HAVE OUT THERE CALLED EDGE LOG, NOT NEW, BUT STUDENT TRANSPORTATION.
WE'RE ABLE TO INTEGRATE WITH THEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, A COMPANY CALLED SNOW PADS.
A LOT OF TOWNS ARE LOOKING AT THEM.
YOU, IF YOU WANT, I DON'T KNOW, GIVE THE PUBLIC A VIEWING OF WHERE THE SNOWPLOWS WERE.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO INTEGRATE FOR THAT TYPE OF PROGRAM.
THE OVERALL DRIVER EXPERIENCE.
WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL ADD-ONS BESIDES WHAT YOU LOOKED AT NOW.
ONE'S CALLED FIELD SERVICE DISPATCH, WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY DISPATCH THE JOBS.
TWO PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD AND WHEN THE JOB'S DONE, THEY COULD TAKE A PICTURE, CLEAN MRS. ROSE'S STORM DRAIN BOOM.
HERE IT WAS, IT WAS DONE AT TWO 30.
SO IT REALLY KEEPS THAT ACCOUNTABILITY PUT IN ONE SPOT AND, AND GIVES YOU THAT ABILITY TO LOOK AT THAT IN A MINUTE, IN A GLANCE.
AND BESIDES THE VEHICLES, ALSO PART OF OUR PORTAL IS ASSET TRACKERS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO KEEP TRACK OF LIGHT STANCHIONS, YELLOW IRON BACK HOSE, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE AN ENGINE OR, OR STORAGE BOXES.
UH, BERGEN COUNTY O E M KEEPS IT IN THEIR STORAGE BOXES AND YOU KNOW, WE NEVER THOUGHT WE'D HAVE WHAT WE HAD WITH THE PANDEMIC.
THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE TRACKED.
UM, COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME UP IN A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS IS IT'S ON A SOURCE.
WELL CONTRACT, IT'S A 12 MONTH CONTRACT AFTER THE 12 MONTHS.
IT GOES ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS.
UM, AND AS FAR AS RIGHT AWAY, MY FIRST THOUGHT IS MONTH TO MONTH WHAT HAPPENS? YOU GET ME FOR THE REST.
IT TENDS TO GO LOWER AND LOWER AND LOWER.
WE'RE ALWAYS INVENTING NEW THINGS TO TRY TO SELL.
BUT THE, THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE JUST KEEPS, I'VE BEEN IN IT ABOUT 10, 12 YEARS.
USED TO BE $30 A UNIT PER MONTH AND $5,000 AND UPFRONT.
NOW THERE'S NO MORE UPFRONT MONEY.
IT'S STRICTLY A SERVICES CONTRACT.
SO YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR ANYTHING UPFRONT.
IT'S JUST FOR SERVICES BILLED IN ARREARS.
AS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, WE CAN'T CHARGE FOR SERVICES NOT RENDERED.
SO YOU GET THAT BILL 30 DAYS LATER AND THAT'S HOW IT KIND OF WORKS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND JUST ONE OTHER THING TO ADD.
SO IN THE EVENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN UPGRADE, RIGHT? OR ANY, UH, A NEW FORM OF TECHNOLOGY COMES OUT.
WILL THAT ALSO BE INCLUDED? ABSOLUTELY.
ANY NEW FIRMWARE THAT COMES OUT ONCE THE UNITS ARE INSTALLED.
YOU'VE BEEN VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SYSTEM ALREADY.
JOSEPH AND CHELSEA AND BRIAN AND RICHARD HAVE BEEN USING IT FOR PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR MONTHS WITH THE VIDEO CAMERAS.
UH, IT'S VERY SECURE AS VERIZON KNOWS.
SO WHOEVER GETS TO LOG IN, IT'S YOUR PREFERENCE.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE UNITS IN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
CAPTAIN VALENTINE, THEY DON'T HAVE VIDEOS IN THERE, BUT THEY PUT IT ON AMBULANCES.
I THINK, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
'CAUSE WE HAVE LIKE A PRETTY HECTIC AGENDA FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE TOWN BOARD.
WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW? WELL, SO, SO RIGHT NOW, D P W WE CURRENTLY HAVE A VEHICLE TRACKING SOFTWARE.
UM, WE'VE HAD IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW.
UH, IT'S, IT'S TIME THAT IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, RIGHT AS TIME GOES ON, THE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES.
UM, AND SO LOOKING AT, UH, VERIZON'S TECHNOLOGY, LOOKING AT THE FLEET TRACKING SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE, AS WELL AS ADDING ON FRONT FACING CAMERAS, WHICH WE FEEL IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALMOST NECESSARY NOWADAYS WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, PREVENTATIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE AND, AND STUFF THAT, THAT MAY
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OCCUR AS FAR AS ACCIDENTS.UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AND WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE WHAT VERIZON HAS, WHAT THEIR SERVICES ARE WITH THE TOWN BOARD IN HOPES THAT, YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT WEEK AND TWO WEEKS, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, AN AGREEMENT TO, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
ROBERTA, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? IF IT'S IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
SO ANY OTHER, WELL, THE QUESTION
SO IN ADDITION TO, OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD, LOOK AT IT.
ALL THIS OTHER UMBRELLA, I THINK SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO TELL US, SEND US MESSAGE RELATES TO STORMS LIKE THIS.
BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE INTERNET, THE INTERNET IS DOWN AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, TREES DOWN EVERYTHING.
IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO SATELLITE OR YES.
TO COMMUNICATE? YEAH, HOW IT WORKS ON OUR, OUR, OUR SYSTEM, THEY'RE CELL BASED AND, AND WHAT THE ENGINEERS HAVE EXPLAINED TO ME, IT TRIANGULATES AND IF IT'S NOT PICKING UP A CELL, IT SHOOTS TO A SATELLITE AND THEN COMES BACK.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO INTO A HOLLOW AND HAS POOR COVERAGE, IT'S STILL PINGING THE DEVICE AND WHEN IT GETS OUT INTO THAT AREA, BOOM, IT SPITS IT BACK.
SO YOU CAN BE REST ASSURED THAT YOU WILL KNOW WHERE THAT VEHICLE WAS AT THAT TIME IN 32ND INCREMENTS, WITHOUT A DOUBT.
UH, THE, THE FEATURES THAT YOU LAID OUT, DO THOSE COME STANDARD WITH, WITH THE SUBSCRIPTION OR ARE THEY ON PART? YES.
THE ONES YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW IS, IS THE UNIT AND ALSO THE INSTALLATION IS FREE, SO IT DOESN'T, WE COME IN AND PROFESSIONALLY INSTALL AND THAT INCLUDES THE UNIT, THE WIRING, THE INSTALL, AND THE FRONT FACING VIDEO CAMS. OKAY.
AND THE REST OF THOSE FEATURES THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE, THE ONLY ONE FIELD SERVICE DISPATCH, IF YOU CHOSE TO USE THAT, THAT'S, IT'S BASICALLY A, UM, SOFTWARE ADD-ON THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITION.
OTHER THAN THAT, WE TRY TO PACKAGE IT ALL TOGETHER SO IT MAKES IT FOR AN EASIER DECISION, SO TO SPEAK.
AND IT DOES INCLUDE THE DASHBOARD THAT PROVIDES WITH THE METRICS TO SHOW US, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH GAS WAS CONSUMED, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF OTHER SAVINGS THAT THERE COULD BE FOR ENERGY.
ARE YOU CAPABLE OF PUTTING A CAMERA ON THE ARM OF OUR AUTOMATED, UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLE? YEAH, WELL WE HAVE, UH, BESIDES THE FRONT FACING DASH CAM, WE HAVE AN INCA CAMERA AS WELL.
UH, SO THAT'S REALLY MOSTLY USED FOR LIKE, UH, HEALTHCARE AMBULANCES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WESTCHESTER E M S HAS IT IN THEIRS.
AND THEY WERE TOLD THAT THEY DROPPED PATIENTS.
LIKE I THOUGHT IT'S UNHEARD OF, BUT I THINK IT HAPPENS
SO YOU CAN POSITION THAT CAMERA TO SEE WHERE YOU WANT IT TO SEE, OKAY, IF YOU CHOOSE OKAY, WHEN IT GOES OUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET CLAIMS THAT YOU HIT THE CAR, YOU DID WHATEVER.
AND I THINK THAT ACTUALLY IT WAS DESIGNED SO THAT, BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF THE CANS HAS A NUMBER ON IT, DESIGNED, TAKE A PICTURE.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY FEATURE, YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE A STOP WITH THE DATA AND THEN YOU'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE THE VIDEO BECAUSE YOU CAN, YOU CAN HAVE THAT IT AUTOMATICALLY GET SENT TO YOU.
IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY COME INTO HIS INBOX.
OH BOY, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT, SHOULD I DOWNLOAD IT? AT FIRST WHEN WE SET IT UP, RICHARD VAUGHN WAS GETTING A MILLION VIDEOS AND HE SAID, PLEASE, NO MORE.
AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CHELSEA WORKED IT THAT WAY, BUT YOU COULD PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE, NOT TO TAKE UP ANY MORE TIME.
IT'S LIKE THE VERIZON COMMERCIAL.
GET WHAT YOU WANT WHEN YOU WANT, AND ONLY WHAT YOU NEED FOR YOUR, THAT'S PRO.
NEXT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, OUR, UH, AUDITS.
I'M A PARTNER WITH THE FIRM OF P K F O'CONNOR DAVIES AND THE COMPANY, ME TONIGHT IS MY PARTNER JEFF SHAVER, WHO IS ACTUALLY THE, UH, AUDIT ENGAGEMENT PARTNER OUT IN THE FIELD.
UH, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, UH, TWO DOCUMENTS.
ONE IS YOUR ACTUAL AUDIT REPORT, WHICH IS A SPIRAL BOUND BOOK.
THAT BOOKLET WAS PREPARED BY THE CONTROLLER OF THE TOWN AND HER TEAM.
THE FIRST PART IS MANAGEMENT'S
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DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS.THE MIDDLE PART IS THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, AND THE THIRD PART OF IT IS STATISTICAL INFORMATION THAT GOES BACK 10 YEARS, UH, FOR THE TOWN TO BRING FORTH, UH, INFORMATION.
SO THAT DOCUMENT IS THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR THE YEAR ENDED DECEMBER 31ST, 2020.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE THIS EVENING IS WE HAVE EXTRAPOLATED CERTAIN INFORMATION INTO THIS POWERPOINT FOR THE PURPOSES OF BREVITY AND FOR THE PURPOSES OF, UM, A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, WHICH THIS EVENING WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE.
BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE THIS DOCUMENT WILL PROBABLY BE PUT ONLINE ALONG WITH THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR YOUR CITIZENS OF THE TOWN, UH, TO SEE.
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I JUST WANTED TO POINT TO YOU IS IF YOU TURN TO THE SPIRAL BOOK AND YOU GO TO PAGE ROMAN NUMERAL NUMBER NINE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING.
SO THE TOWN HAS PARTICIPATED WITH THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OUT OF CHICAGO, AND THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS ONE OF A, A FEW, A SELECT FEW MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK WHO HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN AWARDED THIS, UH, CERTIFICATE FOR COMPLYING WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, OF THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
SO US TOWN BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD BE VERY PROUD THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED THE NECESSARY RESOURCES FOR YOUR TOWN EMPLOYEES TO CONTINUE TO, TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.
IF WE TURN TWO PAGES IN THAT SPIRAL BOOK, YOU'LL COME TO THE INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT.
AND THAT REPORT REPRESENTS WHY YOU ENGAGE US.
YOU ENGAGE US TO AUDIT THE, UH, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE TOWN FOR THE YEAR ENDED DECEMBER 31ST.
UH, THE SECOND PARAGRAPH TALKS ABOUT MANAGEMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY IN THE PREPARATION OF THOSE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
THE THIRD PARAGRAPH TALKS ABOUT OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH THE HARTSDALE PUBLIC PARKING DISTRICT, WHICH IS A COMPONENT UNIT OF THE TOWN, WE DID NOT AUDIT THEM.
WE RELIED UPON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, UM, OF THE ORDER THAT WAS CHOSEN BY THE, UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE HARTSDALE PUBLIC PARKING DISTRICT.
I'M NOT ON A SLIDE RIGHT NOW, IT'S IN THE BOOK.
I MENTIONED THE, THE SPIRAL BOOK, THE AUDITOR OPINION.
NO, I WAS TRYING TO HAVE GEORGE PICK UP THIS SO THAT THE PUBLIC, OKAY, WELL, OKAY.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WERE, UH, STREAMING.
SO IF YOU ARE ON, IF YOU'RE ON PAGE
ALRIGHT, SO, SO IF YOU'RE ON PAGE THREE, I GUESS PAGE THREE WOULD, UH, UM, MATCH UP WITH WHAT I'M DISCUSSING.
UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE AUDIT REPORT, UM, WE INDICATED THAT, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE OBTAINED ALL THE NECESSARY INFORMATION TO ISSUE OUR OPINION.
AND AT THE TOP OF PAGE TWO OF THE AUDIT REPORT, WHICH IS THE SPIRAL BOUND BOOK, WE GIVE YOU OUR OPINION ON THE, UM, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT WE REFER TO IN THIS OPINION.
AND ESSENTIALLY, WE'VE ISSUED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, WHICH IS KNOWN AS A CLEAN OPINION IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. SO I'M NOW GONNA CLOSE THIS BOOK, AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO, TO, TO THIS BOOKLET.
SO THIS BOOKLET AND, AND I THINK WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO START, WE'D LIKE TO START ON PAGE SIX, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
SO PAGE SIX IS THE GENERAL FUND, AND IT'S A COMPARISON OVERALL TO THE BUDGET THAT YOU ORIGINALLY ADOPTED, THE FINAL BUDGET AND THE ACTUAL RESULTS AND THE VARIANCE.
AND I'M GONNA LET JEFF SPEAK TO THAT.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO JUST GIVE ONE LITTLE STATEMENT.
WE ALL KNOW THAT 2020 WAS AN ANOMALY FOR MOST MUNICIPALITIES BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
AND, UM, YOUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES MAY HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE PANDEMIC AS YOU ADJUSTED TO, UH, OPERATIONS CAUSED, UH, BY KEEPING, UH, EVERYONE SAFE.
SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP OF PAGE SIX, UH, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR REVENUES.
IT WAS ANTICIPATED THAT 17.1 MILLION WOULD BE COLLECTED.
THE ACTUAL REVENUES FOR THE YEAR WERE 16,453,000.
THAT'S A NEGATIVE VARIANCE OF ABOUT 645,000.
AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE DETAILS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE OF THE BUDGET, IT WAS ANTICIPATED 31.6 MILLION WOULD BE SPENT.
THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURE IS 20000000.8 MILLION.
AND THAT'S A, THAT'S LESS THAN THE BUDGET OR A POSITIVE VARIANCE OF, OF ABOUT $10.6 MILLION.
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USES, UH, BELOW THAT, WHICH CONSISTS OF TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS BUDGETED AT 3.3 MILLION.ACTUAL, ACTUAL OTHER FINANCING USES 3.2.
WHAT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO REVENUES LESS EXPENDITURES, LESS OTHER FINANCING USES IS A NET CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE OF 7,568,000.
KEEP IN MIND, WHEN THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED, IT WAS ANTICIPATED CLOSE TO $18 MILLION OF FUND BALANCE WOULD BE UTILIZED.
SO HAD YOU, HAD, YOU SPENT EVERY DOLLAR YOU BUDGETED AND COLLECTED EVERY DOLLAR, YOU ANTICIPATED, YOUR FUND BALANCE WOULD'VE COME DOWN BY THAT 17,000,879 BECAUSE YOU DID BETTER THAN YOUR BUDGET BY APPROXIMATELY 10.3 MILLION.
YOUR ACTUAL FUND BALANCE ONLY REDUCED BY 7,568,000, LEAVING THE ENDING GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE TO $18.9 MILLION.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OVERALL CONCEPT THAT WE JUST PUT FORWARD, WE, WE, WE WILL ANSWER THEM.
WE'RE GONNA GO INTO SOME OF THE REVENUES AND, UH, AND EXPENDITURES.
THAT'S BEEN UNUSUAL FOR US TO USE LESS THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATE RIGHT? IN THE PAST YEAR.
WELL, YOU'VE ALWAYS, I THINK, MANAGED THE BUDGET HAS ALWAYS BEEN MANAGED ON THE APPROPRIATION SIDE OF THE BUDGET TO, UH, CERTAINLY ENHANCE THE OUTCOME OF THE BUDGET.
SO YOU, YOU ACTUALLY PRODUCED THE BUDGET SURPLUS AND THAT BUDGET SURPLUS IN THE GENERAL FUND WAS PRODUCED ALMOST ENTIRELY FROM THE APPROPRIATION SIDE OF THE BUDGET, NOT FROM THE REVENUE SIDE OF THE BUDGET.
JEFF, YOU WANNA GO THROUGH SOME OF THE REVENUE.
SO PAGE SEVEN, THIS IS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THE REVENUE SIDE OF THE BUDGET.
I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT A FEW, UM, OTHER TAX ITEMS. UH, IN THAT LINE ITEM, THERE'S MORE DETAILS, INTEREST AND PENALTIES ON TAXES AND GAIN ON SALE OF TAX ACQUIRED PROPERTIES IN THERE.
UM, MOST OF THIS BUDGET SURPLUS OF 314,000 COMES FROM THE GAIN ON TAX ACQUIRED PR GAIN ON SALE OF TAX ACQUIRED PROPERTY.
'CAUSE THOSE AMOUNTS WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
SO EVERY DOLLAR YOU COLLECTED IS REVENUE SURPLUS.
IN TERMS OF REVENUE SHORTFALLS, I'LL POINT OUT FINES AND FORFEITURES.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S FEES, FINES, AND FEES FROM THE JUSTICE COURT.
UM, CERTAINLY RELATED TO THE PANDEMIC WAS, UH, APPROXIMATELY 875,000 LESS THAN THE BUDGET.
SO YOU CAN SEE, AND THE OTHER VARIANCES WERE, WERE RELATIVELY SMALL, BRINGING THE NET VARIANCE TO 645,000.
IF YOU COULD, UH, GO TO PAGE EIGHT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT, YEAH, ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ON PAGE SEVEN BEFORE WE CHANGE, AND YOU DON'T SEE IT HERE, BUT IN 2019, YOUR REVENUES FOR THE GENERAL FUND WERE $20.6 MILLION.
SO IN 20 20, 20 19, 20 0.6 MILLION.
SO 4.2 MILLION LESS, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT NUMBER FOR YOU INSOFAR AS THE OP RECOVERY MONEY BECAUSE YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO RECOVER LOST REVENUE WHEN YOU FILE FOR THOSE FUNDS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M SURE THAT THE CONTROLLER IS WORKING ON.
I'M SURE SHE CAN MAKE YOU EVEN MORE AWARE OF HOW THAT WORKS.
OKAY, SO WE'RE, WE'RE FOLLOWING UP ON THOSE.
SO IN TERMS OF, UH, THE FEDERAL DOLLARS, HOW MUCH IS THAT, THE 4 MILLION AND CHANGE THAT WE'LL PROBABLY GET MM-HMM.
I, I THINK PROBABLY AROUND SEPTEMBER.
THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN BIDEN SAYS WE'RE MUNICIPALITIES ARE GONNA GET FUNDS MM-HMM.
SO THIS BUDGET SEEMS LIKE WE'RE IN DECENT SHAPE.
YOU'VE READED THE 2020 PANDEMIC BY MANAGING THE APPROPRIATION SIDE OF THE BUDGET, UH, BETTER THAN YOU ANTICIPATED WHEN YOU ADOPTED THE BUDGET.
UM, AND YOU DO HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDS, AND WE'LL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THEM, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY THE FINANCIAL CONDITION OF THE TOWN IS, IS AN EXCELLENT FINANCIAL CONDITION.
OKAY, SO ON PAGE, CAN YOU WRITE THAT DOWN? I'M UPSET THAT I, I TOLD THEM, UH, TO START THIS BEFORE IT WENT LIVE,
I'LL JUST, UM, GO THROUGH SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DETAILS, UM, ON TOTAL EXPENDITURES AND OTHER FINANCING USES.
YOU'LL SEE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET ANTICIPATED 34.9 MILLION OR JUST UNDER 35 MILLION.
UM, THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES IN THE GENERAL FUND, 24 MILLION.
SO YOU HAVE AN $11 MILLION, UM, BUDGETARY SURPLUS ON THE APPROPRIATION SIZE AS NICK SAID, MOST OF THAT COMES WITHIN THE GENERAL
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GOVERNMENT SUPPORT CATEGORY, UM, ON FUNDS THAT WERE NOT SPENT DURING THE YEAR.THERE'S OTHER VARIANCES IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY CATEGORY AND NOT ALL, AND ALL, AND TRANSFERS OUT CATEGORY, UH, 300,000 LESS THAN THE BUDGET.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE AGGREGATE OF THAT IS $10.9 MILLION.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, IF YOU LOOK UP AT THE TOP LEFT HAND CORNER OF THE PAGE OF THE POWERPOINT, YOU'LL SEE IT SAYS C PAGE 69 OF THE AC F R.
THAT'S THIS BOOK, THE SPIRAL BOOK, RIGHT? SO WE, WE'VE REFERENCED THE DETAIL TO WHERE THIS THIS INFORMATION COMES FROM.
SO AT YOUR LEISURE, YOU CAN, UH, ALWAYS MAKE THAT REFERENCE AS WELL AS SOME NOTES ON THE BOTTOM OF, UH, THE PAGE.
SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGES FUND.
UM, ON PAGE NINE, THIS IS A SIMILAR PRESENTATION THAT WE DID FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
YOU'LL SEE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOLLOWED BY THE FINAL BUDGET AND THE ACTUAL, YOU'LL SEE ACTUAL REVENUES WERE BUDGETED AT 79.1 MILLION ACTUAL REVENUES FOR THE YEAR 76.9.
AGAIN, WE'LL GET INTO SOME DETAILS ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES.
ACTUAL EXPENDITURES, I'M SORRY, BUDGETED EXPENDITURES.
63.1 MILLION WERE REVISED DOWNWARDS TO 60.5 MILLION, WHILE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES WERE 53.1.
SO LIKE THE GENERAL FUND, THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGES FUND UNDERSPENT THE APPROPRIATION SIDE OF THE BUDGET BY ABOUT $7.4 MILLION.
THE BUDGETARY SURPLUS COMBINED, UM, BETWEEN THE REVENUES, THE REVENUE SHORTFALLS AND THE UNDERSPENDING ON THE APPROPRIATION SIDE WERE ABOUT $4.7 MILLION.
WHEN THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED, IT WAS ANTICIPATED YOU'D UTILIZE 9.3 MILLION OF THE FUND BALANCE BECAUSE YOU BUDGETED, BECAUSE YOU HAD BUDGETARY SURPLUS.
I HAD JUST MENTIONED THE ACTUAL FUND BALANCE DID NOT COME DOWN BY THAT FULL 9.3 MILLION.
SO THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGES FUND, OR THE B FUND STARTS THE YEAR WITH 31.8 MILLION ENDS THE YEAR AT 27.4 MILLION.
AND IF WE TURN TO PAGE TO PAGE 10, AGAIN, YOU HAVE SOME OF THE REVENUE DETAILS OF, UH, WHAT WAS COLLECTED AS COMPARED TO THE BUDGET.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, AS JEFF INDICATED, 2.7 MILLION LESS WAS ACTUALLY COLLECTED DURING 2020.
WHAT, FRANKLY SPEAKING, CONSIDERING A PANDEMIC, THAT'S NOT REALLY SO BAD, BUT ONE OF THE IMPORTANT NUMBERS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE FOR THE SAME CATEGORY OF REVENUES IN 2019, YOU COLLECTED $80.7 MILLION.
SO 3.7 MILLION LESS IN COLLECTIONS IN 2020 RELATED TO THE PANDEMIC, WHICH MEANS THAT I'M SURE THE CONTROLLER WILL ADVISE THAT SHE WILL BE CLAIMING FOR THOSE MONIES UNDER THE OP PROGRAM AS WELL.
WE SHOW SOME DETAILS ON THE APPROPRIATION SIDE OF THE BUDGET.
YOU CAN SEE, UM, 7.3 7,368,000 IS THE TOTAL SURPLUS FOR THE YEAR.
YOU'LL SEE IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT SUPPORT, THERE WAS A SURPLUS OF 2,474,000.
A BIG CHUNK OF THAT IS THE CONTINGENCY LINE THAT WASN'T SPENT.
UM, THE PUBLIC SAFETY CATEGORY UNDERSPENT THE BUDGET BY 1 MILLION.
UM, A LOT, MOST OF THAT WAS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 850,000 LESS THAN BUDGET.
THE CULTURE AND RECREATION CATEGORY, UH, DURING THE PANDEMIC, MOST PROGRAMS WEREN'T ABLE TO BE RUN.
SO THE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE EXPENDITURES DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION.
SO SAVINGS THERE OF ABOUT $2.4 MILLION.
AND IN THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS CATEGORY, UM, THE TOTAL SURPLUS WAS 931,000.
MOST OF THAT IS IN THE MEDICAL INSURANCE CATEGORY OF ABOUT 650,000.
AND IT, AND YOU CAN SEE A SUMMARY ON THE BOTTOM AGAIN, UM, 27.4 MILLION IS THE ENDING FUND BALANCE FOR THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGES FUND.
YOU HAVE YOUR PROPRIETARY FUND SUMMARIES.
UM, YOU HAVE A INTRO GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES FUND.
YOU HAVE A RISK RETENTION FUND, AND YOU HAVE YOUR CONSOLIDATED, UH, WATER FUND.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT, UM, THESE FUNDS FOLLOW A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT, UH, METHOD OF ACCOUNTING.
UH, IT'S ON FULL ACCRUAL, UH, IN PARTICULAR THE RISK RETENTION FUND.
YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE IT SAYS ENDING FUND BALANCE 2,795,000 NEGATIVE BRACKETED.
THAT'S CAUSED BY THE ACTUARIAL ESTIMATE OF YOUR JUDGMENTS AND CLAIMS THAT HAVEN'T YET BEEN ACTUALLY
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INCURRED.BUT IT'S AN ESTIMATE THAT, UH, IS MADE BY THE ACTUARY.
AND, UM, AS LONG AS YOU IN THAT FUND HAVE SUFFICIENT CASH TO PAY YOUR CLAIMS THAT BECOME DUE, WHICH YOU DO, UH, AND WE CAN ACTUALLY REFER TO IT IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
UH, YOU ARE, YOU ARE IN GOOD SHAPE IN THAT FUND.
UH, IN PARTICULAR, WHAT WE'VE ALSO, UH, HAVE PROVIDED FOR YOU ON PAGE 13 IS A LISTING OF ALL YOUR LONG-TERM LIABILITIES.
AND IT BREAKS DOWN WHICH, WHICH ACTIVITIES ARE RELATED TO, UM, ACCRUAL AND WHICH ACTIVITIES ARE ACTUALLY ON A A FUND AS YOU GO BASIS.
UH, THE POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, IS A, A LIABILITY THAT'S SHOWN ON YOUR GOVERNMENT-WIDE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, BUT NOT ON YOUR FUND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
UH, IT SHOWS WHAT THE LIABILITY WOULD BE IF THE TOWN CEASED TO DO BUSINESS ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2020, AND YOU WOULD'VE HAD TO, UH, PUT UP MONIES TO FUND THE POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS FOR ALL YOUR EMPLOYEES ACTIVE AND, UH, ACTIVE WHO ARE VESTED.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, THE STATE OF NEW YORK HAS NOT SET UP A METHOD FOR CONTRIBUTING TO THESE LONG-TERM, UH, LIABILITY FOR POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.
UM, UNLIKE THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IT HAS, WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED YOU ON PAGE, UH, 14 AND 15 WITH A LISTING OF THE AMOUNT OF BONDS THAT YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING AND THE PURPOSES FOR THOSE BONDS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE AMOUNT OF BONDS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING IS, UH, $84,475,000.
AND ON PAGE 15, WE HAVE THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE BY YEAR FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO BUDGET.
AND THEN IT'S GROUPED IN, UM, UH, BLOCKS OF FIVE YEARS THEREAFTER.
SO IF WE TURN BACK TO PAGE, UM, FIVE, NOW YOUR GENERAL FUND IS YOUR PRIMARY OPERATING FUND, BUT YOUR TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGES FUND IS ALSO ONE OF YOUR, UH, IMPORTANT FUNDS.
WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS WE'VE LISTED A THREE YEAR TREND OF YOUR FUND BALANCE IN YOUR GENERAL FUND, JUST THE GENERAL FUND.
AND, UM, IF YOU KNOW, THERE ARE FIVE CATEGORIES, NONS SPENDABLE FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS, IT MEANS IS, IT MEANS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
YOU'VE ADVANCED THE CASH TO TAKE A DISCOUNT ON YOUR RETIREMENT AS A PREPAID.
AND THEREFORE, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT AN EXPENSE UNTIL JANUARY 1ST, UH, BECAUSE YOU ADVANCE THE CASH, YOU CAN'T SPEND THAT, IT'S EQUITY, BUT IT'S NOT LIQUID.
THEN YOU HAVE YOUR RESTRICTED, WHICH, UH, COULD BE, UH, DEBT SERVICE, UH, AS A RESULT OF CLOSED PROJECTS OR, UH, MONIES FROM, UH, BOND PREMIUMS, EMPLOYEE BENEFIT, ACCRUED LIABILITY AS WELL.
THEN YOU HAVE YOUR COMMITTED DISCOUNT BOARD HAS SET UP A COMMITMENT OF FUNDS FOR TAX ARIES OF $200,000, AND THAT COMMITMENT STAYS SEGREGATED IN THE EQUITY SECTION.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, ASSIGNED, YOUR ASSIGNED CATEGORY IS YOUR PURCHASES THAT ARE ROLLED OVER, AS WELL AS HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'VE TAKEN FROM FUND BALANCE TO BALANCE YOUR BUDGET.
YOU'VE APPROPRIATED $15 MILLION, WHICH IS NOT UNREASONABLE GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU WERE COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC INTO AN UNKNOWN FISCAL YEAR, AN UNKNOWN BUDGET YEAR.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU ARE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE HOW MUCH YOU HAVE REMAINING.
AND OF COURSE, THE TOTALS ARE ARE ACROSS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE STILL CHALLENGES OUT THERE IN ALL THESE FUNDS.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE FINANCES, THERE ARE UNKNOWNS WITH RESPECT TO 2021, WE'VE SEEN WITH A LOT OF OUR MUNICIPAL CLIENTS, THERE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A RESTORATION SOMEWHAT OF SALES TAX RECEIPTS, AND I KNOW YOU SHARING THOSE, UM, THROUGH THE COUNTY IN SOME RESPECTS.
UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE AN INCREASED ACTIVITY WITH THE SALE SALES OF HOMES AND THE MORTGAGE TAX, UH, THAT'S BEING COLLECTED.
AND WE'RE HOPING THAT YOUR PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS ARE BACK TO NORMAL IN 2020.
IT WAS A BIT OF A SLOWDOWN, WASN'T THERE? UH, JEFF, THAT'S CORRECT.
IN THE PROPERTY TAX, HOW MUCH WAS THE SLOWDOWN, JEFF? UM, THERE WAS AN IMPACT TO THE, TO THE GENERAL FUND OF ABOUT $5 MILLION.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE RECOVERY.
NOW, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, YOU COLLECT FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND
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YOU COLLECT FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL, AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE GOOD ON THOSE, UH, UH, DELAYED COLLECTIONS.I MEAN, YOU DO KNOW THAT AND IF YOU, AND IT'S STATED IN YOUR BOND, UH, OFFERING STATEMENT, YOU COLLECT 99.9% OF THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT ARE DUE, YOU, IT SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A TIMING DIFFERENCE THAT IMPACTS, UH, YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
BECAUSE WHEN WE SPOKE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PILLA, I THOUGHT SHE, SHE SAID THEY DID VERY WELL.
SO ISN'T THIS SORT LIKE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT, SO IS THAT A TIMING ISSUE YOU SAYING? YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S, SO WE SHOULD, SO WE SHOULD RIGHT NOW BE PRETTY MUCH ON PAR WHERE WE SHOULD BE WITH THE PREVIOUS TAX COLLECTIONS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IF MEMORY SHOWS ME RIGHT? I I, I, I RECALL DIDN'T THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER POSTPONED SOME OF THE PAYMENTS ON THE PROPERTY TAXES? SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT AFFECTED IT TO SOME OF THE MUNICIPALITIES MAY HAVE FOLLOWED SUIT, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT IN, IN IN GENERAL, YOU ARE GONNA RECOVER MOST OF THAT MONEY PROBABLY DURING 2021.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, REGARDING THE AUDIT, AS I SAID, THE TOWN IS IN AN EXCELLENT FINANCIAL POSITION.
OF COURSE, WE'RE STILL, UH, WATCHFUL OF WHAT'S HAPPENING FINANCIAL WISE AND THE BEST WAY TO MANAGE THE BUDGET AS MANAGE IT FROM THE EXPENSE SIDE AS BEST YOU CAN.
UH, WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR YOU SOME REVENUE SHORTFALLS.
I'M SURE THE CONTROLLER WILL BE SHARING THAT WITH YOU AS WELL.
SO THAT MONIES THAT YOU CAN RECOVER UNDER THE AMERICAN, UM, RESCUE PLAN FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
UM, AND WITH THAT SAID, MR. SUPERVISOR TOWN BOARD, I THINK WE FINISHED OUR PRESENTATION IN TERMS OF THE FUND BALANCE, YOU KNOW, HOW CLOSELY TO NOT STAYING WITHIN THE FUND BALANCE POLICY.
WELL, I, I THINK WE SHOWED YOU, UH, ON, ON OUR, OUR HANDOUT THAT, UM, YOUR FUND BALANCE WENT DOWN A BIT IN THE, IN THE GENERAL FUND.
IT ALSO WENT DOWN A BIT IN THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGES FUND.
UH, BUT FRANKLY SPEAKING, THAT'S TO BE EXPECTED COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU NEEDED TO LEVERAGE YOUR PAST BUDGET SURPLUSES TO GET YOU THROUGH THAT PANDEMIC.
NOW, YOUR, THE TOWN HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE IN ITS BUDGETING PROCESS AND, AND ESTIMATES OF REVENUE.
I EXPECT THAT YOU'RE GONNA CONTRIBUTE SOME, NOT USE ALL THAT YOU BUDGETED FOR 2021 TO STAY IN BALANCE.
AND PERHAPS WHEN YOU DO 2022, IF WE'RE TRULY OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE TO RELY UPON FUND BALANCE AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE.
SO THE MOTTO IS, IF ROBERTA TELLS US NOT TO SPEND, WE SHOULD LISTEN TO HER.
YOU SHOULD ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR CONTROLLER
ROBERTA, I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T SAY ALL AWAY
AND BY THE WAY, SHE WORKED VERY WELL WITH US.
SHE PROVIDED INFORMATION ON A TIMELY BASIS.
UM, JEFF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? NO, JUST THANK THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, UM, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO, AND IT WAS PRETTY SMOOTH AND EFFICIENT AUDIT, UM, AND NO GLITCHES.
A LOT OF WORK TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO PRODUCE ALL, ALL OF THIS.
THANK OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WOULD HAVE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, FUNDING THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES COULD BE GETTING? WELL, I, I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING OUT THERE DIFFERENT THAT YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, ARE APPLYING FOR.
UH, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE WHEN YOU PREPARE YOUR 22 BUDGET BASED UPON, UM, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATED FEDERAL AID, HOW IT CAN BE USED, UH, AND, AND BEING COMPLIANCE WITH THE, THE FUNDING SOURCE, THE FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCE, UH, NOT MAKING IT SUBSTITUTE FOR CERTAIN, UM, TOWN, UM, UH, EXPENDITURES, UH, OR NOT PURPOSELY LOWERING REVENUE ESTIMATES, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STATE'S PROPERTY TAX LIMITATION IS STILL IN EXISTENCE.
THE 2% LIMITATION, WHICH I'M TOLD IS ABOUT WHAT, 1.06 THIS YEAR COMING UP, THE 2% IS ONLY 1%
NOW, I THINK QUITE A NUMBER OF MUNICIPALITIES ARE TRYING THEIR BEST TO STAY WITHIN THE TAX CAP, GIVEN THE PANDEMIC, GIVEN THE FISCAL STRAIN THAT WAS BEEN PUT ON.
ITS, UH, THEIR CITIZENS, THEY'RE TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THAT CAP.
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BUT YOU GOT, I MEAN, PEOPLE STILL NEED MUNICIPAL SERVICES, SO YOU STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND, UM, AS EFFICIENT AS YOU WANNA BE.PROPERTY TAX STILL REMAINS YOUR MAINSTAY FOR REVENUE AND RESOURCES TO PROVIDE THOSE MUNICIPAL SERVICES.
IF ANY OF THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, MR. SUPERVISOR, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IF THEY FUNNEL 'EM THROUGH YOU OR ROBERTA, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
IF YOU NEED US TO COME BACK AGAIN, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
WE HOPE THAT YOU AS WELL WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE AS WE GRAVEL SAFETY.
SO, UH, WE SAID WE HERE ABOUT JOE MORE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK ON, ON THE DOCK.
ARE YOU IMPRESSED THAT WE'RE ON TIME? IF YOU COULD, THE FIRST IN PERSON MEETING, YOU COULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF WEATHER TO DRIVE, TO DRIVE.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU WANT EVERYTHING? YES, ACTUALLY MY FIRST IN-PERSON MEETING IN 15 MONTHS, I THINK CLOSE TO IT, BUT EVERYBODY'S DOING IT NOW.
DO YOU WANT US TO JUST START, OR DID YOU SAY YOU NEEDED TO WAIT TILL SEVEN? NO, IT'S, UH, 7 0 1.
SO GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, FOR THE RECORD, IT'S MARK WEINGART AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE EVERYBODY IN PERSON.
IT'S, WE'RE DO, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST, BUT, UH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
RIGHT? SO I GUESS IT'S GOOD TO SAY WHAT YOUR NAME IS, WHATEVER.
SO, UM, I'M, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY TONIGHT WE'RE REPRESENTING W B P DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, L L C, THAT'S A RELATED ENTITY OF THE WILD WILDER BALTER PARTNERS, L L C I HAVE REPRESENTED THAT COMPANY FOR, I DON'T KNOW, DECADES.
UH, BILL, WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER.
AND, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL START WITH AND BILL'S GONNA GIVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION, AND, AND THIS IS BILL BALTER PRINCIPAL, HUH? UH, IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE, UH, DEVELOPER THAT'S MAKING THE PROPOSAL TO YOU THIS EVENING AT ONE DRAW MORE ROAD.
UH, I'VE KNOWN THEM A LONG TIME, AND I CAN TELL YOU WHEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEY'RE THE BEST IN CLASS IN THE HUDSON VALLEY WITHOUT DOUBT.
AND I'VE DONE BUSINESS WITH AN AWFUL LOT.
THEY'VE DONE MORE THAN A THOUSAND UNITS IN THIS AREA.
UH, MANY OF THEM WE'RE VERY PROUD TO HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS 45 UNITS.
AND, UH, YOU'LL SEE FROM THE, YOU'LL SEE FROM THE, UH, THE SLIDESHOW, THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'LL PUT ON, BUT THERE'S SO MANY ELEMENTS TO IT THAT ARE GREAT.
THE ONES, THERE ARE TWO BEDROOMS, THERE'RE LEAD.
IT'S A LEAD GOLD, GOLD BUILDING.
IT, IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA BE VERY PROUD TO HAVE NEW TOWN, IN MY OPINION.
THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE NORMAL SITUATION.
YOU'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
IT GROWS OUT OF A SETTLEMENT OF A LAWSUIT THAT THE TOWN HAD WITH THE TROY FAMILY.
WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR WHY ALTA PARTNERS HAD NO PART OF THAT.
THEY WERE NOT, THEY CAME TO THIS AFTER THE, THE SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATION STARTED.
THEY WERE SOUGHT OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR EXPERTISE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THEY WERE ACCEPTABLE BOTH TO YOU, THE TOWN AND TO THE COURT TO PUT INTO THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT TO CARRY FORWARD WHAT WAS AGREED TO WHAT WAS APPROVED AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE PROJECT IS.
UM, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IN, IN, IN ESSENCE, UH, LITTLE BIT OF A SUBCATEGORY ON THE FIRST ONE AND WHAT WE NEED FROM THE TOWN BOARD TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, BUT ALSO TO MAKE IT HAPPEN QUICKLY.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY DE BALTER IS HERE IS THEY GO TO THE STATE, THEY GO TO THE HOMES AND COMMUNITY RENEWAL, UH, THE H F A TO GET THE MONEY, THE H C R TO GET THE MONEY FROM THE STATE TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN.
I'LL LET BILL TALK ABOUT THE SCHEDULE AS TO HOW THIS IS GONNA GET BUILT.
IT CAN BE DONE VERY QUICKLY WITH YOUR APPROVAL.
WHAT WE NEED WITH RESPECT TO YOUR COOPERATION, UH, ARE SOME VERY MINOR SITE PLAN CHANGES.
WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE NUMBER EIGHT UNITS.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE BUILDING.
ALL OF THEM GROW FROM H C R REQUIREMENTS, HOMES AND COMMUNITY RENEWAL.
THEY'RE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE OUR MONEY AND THEY HAVE ASKED FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE'LL EXPLAIN WHY.
THE SECOND THING IS THE PILOT, YOU CAN'T DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT A PILOT.
YOU KNOW THAT, UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS IS IN LINE WITH THE OTHER PILOTS THAT ARE GOING ON, NOT JUST IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY, BUT YOUR TOWN ITSELF, WITH REGARD TO AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECTS.
IN FACT, I CAN TELL YOU, BECAUSE THIS WAS DONE AT A LITTLE DIFFERENT STAGE, THE PROJECT THAT WHILE THE BALTER JUST BROKE GROUND ON IN TARRYTOWN, THIS PILOT PAYMENT IS IN EXCESS OF WHAT IT IS SLIGHTLY IN, YOU KNOW, FOR TARRYTOWN.
SO WE'VE DONE, WE THINK VERY WELL BY THE TOWN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS.
SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BILL BALTER IF OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER LETS ME, AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE POWERPOINT QUICKLY.
SO I GREW UP IN HASTINGS AND IT AMAZES ME THAT TARRYTOWN WAS THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT WE'D
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EVER DONE THE Y IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, AND WE'RE GLAD TO BE HERE NOW, UH, DOING THIS.UM, SO I, SINCE I'VE NOT BEEN HERE BEFORE, UH, I WANTED TO JUST TELL YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR COMPANY.
SO AGAIN, I GREW UP IN HASTINGS.
I LIVE IN MOUNT KISCO, AND OUR OFFICE IS, UH, THE OLD RIDGE DIGEST CAMPUS CHAPEL CROSSING.
UM, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS, MANY IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY, A MIX OF MARKET RATE, LUXURY HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, TOWNHOUSES, RENTAL APARTMENTS.
BUT A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IS, UH, EITHER MIXED INCOME OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO THE, CAN YOU JUST, UH, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? SO, THIS IS HARD TO SEE.
I THINK FOR ME IT'S SO PROBABLY HARD FOR YOU TO SEE.
THAT'S JUST A MAP OF OUR, THE CONCENTRATION WE HAVE IN THE HUDSON VALLEY, PARTICULARLY IN WESTCHESTER AND LONG ISLAND.
WE'VE DEVELOPED WELL OVER 3000 APARTMENTS IN 34, 35, UH, COMMUNITIES.
WE'VE DONE, UH, MIXED INCOME, UH, COMBINATION OF MARKET RATE, UH, MARKET RATE HOMES, SENIOR CONDOMINIUMS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING A 27 STORY TOWER WITH A PARTNER IN NEW ROCHELLE.
IT'S THE FIRST PHASE OF A TWO PHASE F 550 UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHICH AGAIN, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO NEW ROCHELLE, IT'S MOSTLY DONE, WE'RE FINISHING IN TWO MONTHS, IS IT'S A LUXURY BUILDING THAT'S 25% AFFORDABLE, AVERAGING 60% OF A M I, WHERE THE, OUR RESIDENTS, ALL OF THE RESIDENTS, INCLUDING THE AFFORDABLE RESIDENTS, HAVE USE OF AN AMAZING AMENITY PACKAGE AT NO COST TO THEM AT ALL, IS INCLUDED IN THEIR RENT.
UM, I JUST WANT TO, THE NEWER, SHE CODE REQUIRED 10% AT 80, AND BILL WAS ABLE TO PUT THIS PROJECT TOGETHER AT 25%, AT 60 A M I.
SO IT, IT'S REALLY A WONDERFUL, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ACCOMPLISHMENT AND WE DID IT THERE FOR 99 YEARS AND THEY ONLY REQUIRED 30 YEARS.
SO IT REALLY IS SOMETHING WE'RE VERY PROUD OF.
SOMEHOW I, I INFORMED THEM OF THAT AND WE DISCUSSION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, I THINK IT'S IN THE SLIDE.
I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THE 25%, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN RECENT MONTHS SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID WE SHOULD UP IT FROM 10% TO 15% TO 25%.
UM, IF THE 10 WANTED TO INCREASE, YOU KNOW, WORKFORCE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, UM, IS IT PRACTICAL TO INCREASE THE, THE PERCENT, YOU KNOW, THE PERCENTAGES OR WOULD WOULD IT RESULT IN, UM, LESS NEW? WOULD IT SCARE OFF, UH, WORKFORCE DEVELOPERS? I THINK WHAT YOU'LL FIND IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT, IS WHEN YOU WANT TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, IT HAS TO BE AN INCENTIVE, NOT A REQUIREMENT.
BECAUSE IF IT'S A REQUIREMENT, THEN YOU CAN'T GET FUNDING FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO THIS IS HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES ARE CONSIDERING IT 10% AT FRANKLY THE HIGHEST A M I POSSIBLE NOT THE LOWEST IS REALLY THE BEST THING TO REQUIRE BECAUSE THEN THE DIFFERENCE TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE AT LOWER INCOMES, YOU CAN THEN GO GET THE SUBSIDIES FROM THE COUNTY AND STATE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
WHEREAS IF IT'S REQUIRED, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SUBSIDIZE YOU ON SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED TO BE DONE.
TO, TO MAKE IT CLEAR, THE NEW ROCHELLE PROJECT REQUIRED STATE FUNDING.
SO THERE'S SUBSIDY IN THAT PROJECT.
THERE WAS NO OTHER WAY TO GO FROM 10 TO 25.
SO THERE HAD TO BE GOVERNMENT FINANCING FOR THAT TO OCCUR.
SO THE POINT IS, IF YOU, WHEN YOU JUST PUT IT IN YOUR CODE, THERE'S NO MONEY THAT COMES WITH IT AND THEN YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE ISSUE.
THAT'S, I'M HAPPY AT ANOTHER DATE.
I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH IT WITH YOU IN MORE DETAIL IF YOU THINK YOU MIGHT CHANGE YOUR CODE.
I CAN GIVE YOU SOME THOUGHTS ON IT, BUT IT USUALLY BACKFIRES WHEN YOU REALLY MAKE IT REQUIRED.
THOSE THINGS THAT LOOKS GOOD DOESN'T REALLY HELP.
IT DOES ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU EXACTLY.
I MEAN, JUST ONE SIMPLE EXAMPLE IN WITH THE COUNTY, WHEN THEY DO THEIR APPRAISAL FOR THE LAND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SUBSIDIZE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT VALUE YOU'RE GIVING UP.
SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT APPRAISAL LOOKS LIKE AND IF IT'S REQUIRED, NOT GIVING UP ANYTHING.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
SO JUST ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT IN NOURISH SHELL, THIS IS 184 UNIT, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S EIGHT BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE TOWER WE'RE DOING.
UM, SO WE DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
UM, MOST OF YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE READER'S DIGEST, UH, ORIGINAL, UH, EXECUTIVE HEADQUARTERS.
UH, WE CONVERTED THAT TO 64 APARTMENTS ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
SOMETHING WE'RE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF.
IT WAS AN ADAPTIVE REUSE ON A VERY, VERY COMPLICATED STRUCTURE.
UM, SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY VERY, VERY PROUD OF.
ON LARGEMONT, WE ALSO DO FOR SALE, UH, HOUSING.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A FOR SALE, UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WE DID IN LARGEMONT 50 UNITS OR SO.
UH, AND THEN AS YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW AS WELL AS I KNOW IT, THE TARRYTOWN REDEVELOPMENT OF THE Y UH, WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.
WE HAVE THE RESIDENTS, UH, WHO CURRENTLY LIVE THERE.
WE JUST STABILIZED THE BUILDING.
SO THEIR EXPERIENCE WILL BE BETTER FOR THE NEXT 18 MONTHS.
AND IN ABOUT A MONTH, WE'LL KNOCK DOWN THE REAR PORTION AND WE SHOULD BE DONE WITH THAT ABOUT TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
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SO, DRAW MORE, UH, ROAD.UM, AS MARK HAD SAID, UM, WE INHERITED THESE PLANS, BUT NOTWITHSTANDING THAT WE'RE MAKING THEM BETTER IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, I THINK THE PROBABLY NUMBER ONE WAY IS WE'RE DOING THIS AS A LEAD GOLD BUILDING.
IT'LL BE ALL VERY HIGH EFFICIENCY, ALL ELECTRIC, IT'LL BE LARGE SOLAR ARRAY ON THE ROOF.
UM, WE'RE DOING IN TARRYTOWN, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT I KNEW THIS WHEN I WAS BEFORE YOUR BOARD, BUT IN TARRYTOWN, THAT BUILDING IS A HUNDRED PERCENT GEOTHERMAL, UH, HEATING, COOLING, AND HOT WATER.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO THAT HERE.
WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE STATE TO SEE IF THAT WILL WORK.
BUT REGARDLESS, THERE'LL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ELECTRIC BUILDING, UH, WITH, UH, SOLAR ON THE ROOF.
IS THERE GAS IN THE AREA AND YOU'RE CHOOSING ELECTRIC? UH, WE'RE CHOOSING ELECTRIC IN THE AREA FOR A BUNCH OF REASONS.
ONE OF WHICH IS I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE WORLD IS GONNA BE GOING.
UM, IN THE OLD DAYS IT WAS SORT OF A VERY BAD THING TO DO, BUT WITH THE SUPER HIGH EFFICIENCY EQUIPMENT AND A VERY TIGHT BUILDING ENVELOPE, YOU JUST USE SO MUCH LESS ENERGY.
THAT ELECTRIC ACTUALLY WORKS EVEN IN CON ED TERRITORY WHERE THE RATES ARE HIGH.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT ACTUALLY AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
SO YOU SAID YOU YOU'RE GONNA USE GEO GEOTHERMAL ALSO.
WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT USING GEOTHERMAL.
ELECTRIC GEOTHERMAL IS SOMETHING THE STATE HAS TO APPROVE BECAUSE IT'S A ADDED COST, A SIGNIFICANTLY ADDED COST TO DO IT.
SO IN TARRYTOWN, WE, THE STATE WAS A BIG FAN OF IT.
I THINK YOU WERE ACTUALLY AT THE GROUNDBREAKING AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE COMMISSIONER OF H C SPOKE ABOUT IT 'CAUSE SHE WAS SO EXCITED WE WERE DOING IT.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S EXCITING BECAUSE IF, UM, WE DO, UH, GEOTHERMAL AND SOLAR, IT'S RIGHT NEAR THE GREENBURG NATURE CENTER.
IT'S SENDING SUCH A POSITIVE MESSAGE.
UM, THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S GREEN.
WE'LL, WE'LL LET YOU WRITE A LETTER TO H C R DO LETTER WHEN WE'RE ASKING FOR THEIR PERMISSION.
CAN YOU USE THE OPEN, OPEN OR CLOSED LOOP? OH, ALWAYS CLOSED LOOP.
UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW, TRY TO DO THIS WITH MY GLASSES WITHOUT FOGGING UP.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, ESSENTIALLY A LOCATOR MAP OF WHERE THE SITE IS.
AGAIN, I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW THIS SITE BETTER THAN I KNOW IT, OBVIOUSLY NEXT TO THE, UH, ACROSS FROM THE GREENBURG NATURE CENTER JUST OFF OF CENTRAL AVENUE.
THIS IS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN.
UH, THESE ARE JUST DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS OF THE APPROVED PLAN.
IT'S FOUR STORY BUILDINGS, PARKING ON THE MAIN LEVEL.
YOU ESSENTIALLY DRIVE THROUGH THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING INTO THE REAR PORTION WHERE THERE'S PARKING.
UH, THE, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
UM, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, BASICALLY WHEN WE COME IN FOR THE AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL, MARK IS REFERRING TO THE SITE PLANS LOOK ALMOST IDENTICAL.
WE'RE BASICALLY INCREASING THE SETBACKS, MAKING THEM GREATER THAN THEY CURRENTLY ARE.
THE ONE THING THAT WE'RE GONNA GOING TO BE DOING, WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL LATER, IS WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, MAKING SURE WE COMPLY WITH ALL THE H A R REQUIREMENTS.
'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS, UH, NOT SERIOUS, BUT STRICT REQUIREMENTS.
SO ESSENTIALLY, AS I TALKED ABOUT A MOMENT AGO, YOU GO UNDER THE BUILDING, UH, FROM RIGHT OF THE SLIDE UNDER THE BUILDING, THE PARKING'S IN THE BACK.
UH, THERE ARE AMENITIES IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THIS PARKING AREA IS THE, THE BUILDING, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THAT IS THE FIRST RESIDENTIAL LEVEL OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.
UH, AND THAT'S ON TOP OF THE PARKING LOT.
IT HAS, UH, THE AMENITIES ON EACH LEVEL.
UM, JUST THE WAY THE BUILDING, WHEN THEY LAID IT OUT, INSTEAD OF DOING A LARGE, LET'S SAY, FIRST FLOOR AMENITY SPACE, THEY LAID IT OUT.
THEY HAVE AMENITIES ON DIFFERENT LEVELS.
THIS IS AGAIN, THE THIRD AND FOURTH FLOOR, UH, WHICH, UH, IT'S JUST VERY MUCH LIKE THE SECOND FLOOR.
SO, AS I SAID BEFORE, IT'S GOING TO BE LEAD GOAL, DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION.
THE POINT THERE IS THAT WE DON'T JUST SAY WE'RE GONNA DESIGN IT AND THEN IT DOESN'T PERFORM.
WE ACTUALLY TEST IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES, DOES PERFORM.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF LEAD GOLD BUILDINGS.
WE STARTED ABOUT PROBABLY 12 YEARS AGO IN, UH, PUT COUNTY DOING 90 HOMES THAT WERE ALL LEAD OR BETTER.
I THINK WE GOT THE LEAD GOLD IN THOSE.
UM, THAT INCLUDES A SUPERIOR BUILDING ENVELOPE.
ESSENTIALLY, THE LEAST EXPENSIVE, MOST EFFICIENT THING YOU CAN DO IS TO MAKE A BETTER BUILDING ENVELOPE.
IT SAVES ON ENERGY AND IT'S, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MORE TO DO UPFRONT, IT'S A LOT LESS MONEY IN THE LONG TERM TO OPERATE THE BUILDING.
UH, AS I SAID, ALL HIGH EFFICIENCY, ELECTRICAL MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, L D D LIGHTING, LOW WATER, UH, FLOW FIXTURES AND FAUCETS.
UM, THE LE VOC AND NO V O C MATERIALS JUST MAKES IT A HEALTHIER BUILDING TO LIVE IN.
UH, THERE'LL ALSO BE, WHAT IS NOT ON HERE IS, UH, THE WILL BE A, AN E R V, ESSENTIALLY AN AIR RECOVERY SYSTEM SO THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF, UH,
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CHANGES OF AIR IN THE BUILDING.AND THEN THEY DO IT IN A WAY WHERE YOU'RE NOT TAKING YOUR HOT AIR AND PUTTING IT OUTSIDE AND TAKING BACK COOL AIR ACTUALLY DOES A HEAT EXCHANGE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT LOSING THE ENERGY YET.
YOU'RE GETTING FRESH AIR CONTINUALLY THROUGH THE BUILDING.
AND THEN ON THE ROOF, WE ROOFTOP SOLAR.
I WOULD GUESS THAT WE'LL GET ON THE BUILDING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 60 TO 80 KW SOLAR SYSTEM ON THE ROOF.
UH, THE RENTS, SO FIRST, THERE ARE NO STUDIOS AND NO THREE BEDROOMS. IT'S WAS APPROVED AS ALL ONE AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
I GUESS THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT MEANS THERE'LL BE VERY LIMITED SCHOOL CHILDREN.
UM, THE RENTS, THIS WILL BE DONE AS AN INCOME AVERAGE DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE'LL AVERAGE JUST ABOUT 60% OF WESTCHESTERS COUNTY AREA MEDIAN INCOME, UH, AND WHICH IS ADJUSTED FOR FAMILY SIZE.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART OF RENTS AND INCOMES, THE REASON THERE'S SO MANY IS THAT WE HAVE UNITS AT 40%, 50, 60, 70 AND 80%.
AND THAT MEANS THAT ESSENTIALLY YOUR INCOMES GO FROM ABOUT 40,000 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
YOUR MINIMUM INCOME IS OBVIOUSLY LESS THAN THAT.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU, UH, THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC WHAT THE MAXIMUM INCOMES ARE.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD GENERALLY BE THE RANGE AND THE MINIMUM INCOME? WELL, IT DEPENDS BECAUSE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHAT YOU'LL GET IS YOU'LL GET A PARENT WHO WILL CO-SIGN FOR ONE OF THE KIDS.
AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THE INCOME CAN ACTUALLY BE LESS.
UH, BUT GENERALLY IT'S 30, YOU KNOW, 30% OF THEIR INCOME IS WHAT THEY CAN SPEND ON THEIR HOUSING EXPENSE.
IS THIS, DO PEOPLE GET SECTION EIGHT ON THE, UM, WE, WE DON'T, UH, WE CAN'T PREVENT SECTION EIGHT FROM HAPPENING.
WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, GO AFTER IT, BUT SURE.
WE HAVE SECTION EIGHT, SOME SECTION EIGHT UNITS.
UM, AND THEN ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS, WE BASICALLY HAVE, UH, MOSTLY ONE BEDROOM UNITS.
I THINK WE HAVE A TOTAL OF, UH, 7 1 7 1 BEDROOM UNITS.
AND THE REST ARE TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
IT'S ABOUT 38 2 BEDROOM UNITS AND SEVEN ONE BEDROOM UNITS.
AND AGAIN, THE OVERALL RENT RANGE FOR THE ONE BEDROOMS IS FROM 900 TO 1800.
THAT'S FROM THE 40% TO THE 80% UNITS.
AND NOW THE TWO BEDROOMS, THEY GO FROM 1,080 UP TO 21 TO 66.
I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION JUST IN TERMS OF THE RENT, UH, EARLIER TODAY.
YOU KNOW, I MET WITH, THEY'RE BOTH, UH, ROCHELLE STEENBERG AND LAUREN BO BOLEN AND THEIR PARENTS OF, UM, UH, ADULTS, WORKING ADULTS.
AND WE'RE, I, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BIG, UH, YOU KNOW, PROBLEM FOR, UH, HIGH FUNCTIONING, DEVELOPMENTAL, DISABLED, UM, UH, ADULTS WHO ACTUALLY ARE EMPLOYED.
AND WE'RE WONDERING IF WE WOULD BE, AND WE WANT, I WANTED TO LIKE, SET UP SOMETHING WHERE, UM, WITH FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WORKFORCE HOUSING OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU'D HAVE SAY ONE OR TWO UNITS THAT COULD BE, UM, ALLOCATED TO, UH, DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, BE RECEPTIVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WORK.
UH, THEY, THEY HAVE, THEY'VE HAD BOOM STANDING JOBS.
AND THERE'S A, A GREAT, UM, PROBLEM IN RIGHT NOW, A LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE AGING, UH, THEIR PARENTS MIGHT BE AGING.
AND A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, PARENTS WOULD LIKE TO, UH, BE ABLE TO HAVE THE COMFORT LEVEL THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE AFTER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TOO OLD TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS.
SO I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY IN GENERAL, IS A PRIORITY OF THE STATE AND THE FUNDING THAT IT'S NOT WHAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS DESIGNED TO DO, PER SE.
UM, TO HAVE A UNIT OR TWO THAT ARE TARGETED TO THAT, FOR ME PERSONALLY, IS FINE.
I THINK THE ISSUE WILL BE GETTING THE STATE AND COUNTY TO, TO ALLOW US, 'CAUSE I ASSUME WHAT YOU'LL WANT TO DO IS TRY TO GET THAT FOR A PREFERENCE FOR THOSE PARTICULAR UNITS, FOR RIGHT.
LOCAL PEOPLE, FOR GREENBURG PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT WILL BE THE ISSUE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO RESOLVE AT THE STATE.
WELL, UH, THEY'RE BASICALLY RELENTLESS, SO I DON'T THINK STATE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO SAY NO TO THEM.
IT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD LOOK AT.
I THINK WHAT BILL IS SAYING, WHICH IS ACCURATE, IS THAT THE, THE VAST FOCUS OF THE STATE FUNDING THESE DAYS THAT COMES OUT OF, SORRY, THE VA THE VAST FOCUS OF FUNDING THAT COMES OUT OF THE STATE THESE DAYS IS FOR THINGS THAT HAVE SUPPORTIVE ELEMENTS TO THE HOUSING.
UH, A LOT OF THE FUNDING THAT COMES OUT DOES HAVE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND FOR, FOR VARIOUS TYPES.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN GETTING A LOT OF THE COMPETITIVE FUNDING SOURCES OUT, OUT OF THE STATE.
BUT WHAT BILL IS SAYING TO YOU AS WELL IS THAT YOU, YOU CAN'T PUT ON A REQUIREMENT OF THAT UNLESS WE MAKE SURE WITH THE STATE AND THE COUNTY THAT IT WON'T IMPACT THEIR, UH, ABILITY TO FUND.
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THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.SO WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO THE OTHER LEVELS OF FUNDING.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT, BECAUSE I, I'M THINKING THAT IF WE COULD CREATE, WE KNOW WE HAVE LIKE A AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHORTAGE IN WESTCHESTER, AND I FEEL THAT IF WE COULD HAVE EVEN LIKE TWO UNITS, UH, UM, AND, AND THEN WE COULD START SOMETHING, AND MAYBE IT COULD BE LIKE A, A TREND.
WE COULD WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF, UH, DEVELOPMENTAL, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED, AND THEN WE COULD ALMOST MAKE THIS SORT OF SOMETHING THAT'S A MODEL FOR, UH, OTHER WORKFORCE, AFFORDABLE THOUSAND.
NOW, NOW, NOW PUT ON A LAWYER HAT, THE REASON IT'S AN ISSUE IS BECAUSE PREFERENCES BY THEIR NATURE CREATE A PROBLEM WITH STATE FUNDING.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE WANTED, UH, PREFERENCES FOR, WE JUST WANT LOCAL PEOPLE HERE, WHICH WAS ANOTHER BUZZWORD, BY THE WAY, TO MAKE SURE THAT LOCAL PEOPLE AND CERTAIN OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T GET PRIORITY IN HOUSING, ET CETERA.
THERE WERE LAWSUITS OVER IT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, AND SO THE ATTITUDE WAS NO PREFERENCES TO MAKE SURE IT'S OPEN TO ALL.
SO IF YOU DO WANT TO PUT A PREFERENCE, AND THIS ONE CLEARLY HAS PUBLIC POLICY BEHIND IT, YOU HAVE TO TALK TO YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS, I WOULD THINK, AND YOUR COUNTY LEGISLATORS, AND GET THE OTHER PART OF THE GOVERNMENT TO SAY THAT THIS IS A RATIONALE THAT WORKS AND WE SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WE ONLY HAVE LIKE TWO, IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE, YOU SAID ABOUT TWO YEARS TO, UM, TO BUILD.
SO NO, THE, THE FUNDING WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE FUNDING REQUEST, WHICH WE'RE MAKING SHORTLY.
THE, THE ISSUE WILL BE, UH, ASIDE FROM THE, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES.
THERE'S THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT WHAT I DO IS IT'S, IT'S SO COMPLICATED.
IT KEEPS A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM DOING IT.
BAD NEWS IS IT'S REALLY COMPLICATED AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU CHECK ALL THE BOXES.
SO WHAT MARK SAID IS TRUE, THE COUNTY IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE, THEIR SETTLEMENT WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON PREFERENCE, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW PREFERENCE.
IT'S COMPLICATED FOR THE STATE.
AND WE'D HAVE TO GET THE, THE PEOPLE TO APPROVE THE FUNDING APPROVED.
BUT ALSO THE NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING HAS TO APPROVE ALL PREFERENCING.
WELL, WE, TO THE EXTENT MAYBE WE COULD JUST LIKE, WORK ON THAT.
AND MAKE, YOU COULD EVEN TELL ME, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE COULD DO IF WE WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
I THINK THAT IT'S A UNIT OR TWO MAKES IT A QUITE A BIT EASIER.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IF YOU'VE SORT OF CHECKED INTO WHO WE ARE, WE REALLY GO OUT OF OUR WAY TO DO THESE REALLY COOL PROJECTS THAT WE FEEL LIKE IF WE DIDN'T DO THEM, NO ONE ELSE WOULD'VE GOTTEN THEM DONE.
SO, I'M MEAN WHEN I SAY I THINK IT'S A NEAT IDEA, I'D LOVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.
I JUST DON'T WANT ANYONE TO LEAVE HER SAYING IT'S GETTING DONE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I GET IT DONE.
AND I, I COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, FROM THE RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE, I AGREE WITH MARK.
I FEEL THAT YOU'RE REALLY LIKE THE PREMIER WORKFORCE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, AROUND, YOU KNOW, AND I, YOU KNOW, I WAS REAL WHEN I HEARD THAT YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA BE, UH, DEVELOPING THIS, YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL WE'LL HAVE A REALLY QUALITY, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLICATION.
YOU COULD SEE FROM THE CROWDS OF PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, SO THERE'S REALLY, I THINK I'M FINDING WHEN I GO AROUND, THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
ON THE, YOU SAID IT'S ALL GONNA BE ALL ELECTRIC.
SO IS IT ELECTRICAL ON TOP OF THE RENT? IS THAT NO, IT'S ACTUALLY HEAT AND HOT WATER ARE INCLUDED AND ELECTRIC ARE INCLUDED IN THE RENT, WHICH MAKES THE RENT A LOT CHEAPER THAN IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE SCREEN.
SO IN THE OLD DAYS, WE NEVER DID THAT FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
BUT NOW WITH THE CONTROLS, IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE.
YOU CAN BUILD A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT BUILDING IF YOU DO A LOT MORE CENTRAL SYSTEMS THAN IF EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN SYSTEM.
IT'S ALSO MUCH FROM A, SORRY TO GIVE YOU TOO MUCH DETAIL.
FROM A BUILDING OPERATIONS STANDPOINT, HAVING UH, CENTRAL SYSTEMS IS A LOT EASIER ON EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE TENANTS.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO THEIR APARTMENTS TO SERVICE THINGS AS OFTEN.
SO THE SITE CHANGES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE, THE H C HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR RECREATION AREA THAT'S LARGER THAN WHAT WAS APPROVED.
IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER, BUT IT REQUIRES US TO, UM, INCREASE THE ONSITE OUTDOOR RECREATION.
UM, THEY HAVE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM APARTMENT SIZES, AND THAT'S NOT HAVING A BIG IMPACT ON THE BUILDING, BUT IT WILL ULTIMATELY MEAN WE HAVE TO JUST MAKE SOME CHANGES TO IT.
UM, THE STATE ENCOURAGES, WANTS US TO ENCOURAGE, UH, PEOPLE TO NOT TAKE ELEVATORS.
SO THEY WANT US TO PUT A STAIRCASE NEAR THE ENTRANCE.
SO WE HAVE TO ADD THAT TO THE BUILDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS DONE, WAS APPROVED AND BY CONCEIVE LONG BEFORE PEOPLE WERE REALLY GOING.
SO BEING SO THOUGHTFUL ABOUT, UH, ELECTRIC BIKES AND BIKES IN GENERAL.
SO WE'LL PUT BIKE STORAGE AS HHL WANTS US TO.
WE'LL ALSO PROBABLY PUT A BIKE CHARGING STATION IN THE BUILDING AS WELL AS WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE WE DEVELOP, WHETHER IT'S LUXURY
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OR AFFORDABLE.DO YOU HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION? UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, I DID NOT MENTION THAT.
I HAVE AN ELECTRIC CAR, SO YES, WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE THE ELECTRIC CHARGER.
THE FIRST TIME I KNEW HAD ELECTRIC CAR,
AND IT'S INTERESTING, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR, UM, LUXURY DEVELOPMENTS, WE LOOK AT OUR AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENTS, EVERYBODY IS GETTING ELECTRIC CARS.
SO YES, WE'LL DEFINITELY DO THAT.
I HAVE A QUESTION WITH ELECTRIC CARS.
'CAUSE THIS IS SO CLOSE TO THE NATURE CENTER MM-HMM.
IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER, UM, LOCATING, SAY THE, UH, THE ELECTRIC CHARGING STATION AT THE NATURE CENTER, YOU KNOW, PARKING LOT BECAUSE THEN, THEN, UH, THE NATURE CENTER WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT AND, AND ACTUALLY SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAS AN ELECTRIC CAR, DOESN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE CHARGING STATION AS WELL AS YOUR RESIDENCE.
I THINK THE ANSWER'S PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING.
I THINK WE'D HAVE TO PUT ON OUR OWN SITE.
UM, IT'S MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO ALLOW, UH, TO PUT IN A PLACE ON OUR SITE WHERE OTHERS COULD USE THAT.
I JUST, I DON'T, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN MORE CAREFULLY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE STILL AFTER ME FROM WHEN WE DID THE TESLA AND YOU WANTED EVERYBODY TO USE THEIR ELECTRIC CHARGING AND THEY NEEDED 'EM FOR THEIR OWN CARS.
THAT WAS A GOOD HOUR DISCUSSION.
THE TESLA, I KNOW, I REMEMBER MY DAUGHTER JUST MOVED TO GREAT BARRINGTON, AND IT IS A TESLA CHARGER STATION, TWO BLOCKS FROM OUR HOUSE.
HOW GREAT IS THAT? UH, SO IN THE PILOT AGREEMENT, UM, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, AS MARK HAD SAID, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING YOU GUYS HAVE NOT DONE BEFORE THERE.
UM, WHAT WE REALLY SEEK AS MUCH AS ANYTHING IS CERTAINTY ON THE PILOT, WHICH IS WHY IT'S A 32 YEAR PILOT, WHICH ESSENTIALLY GETS US THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD AND, UM, BUILDING AND STABILIZING THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN OPERATING IT.
THE, UM, AS I WAS JUST ALLUDED TO 15 MINUTES AGO, WE UNDERSTAND YOU'LL WANT THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR 99 YEARS.
AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT'S FINE AS LONG AS THERE'S A PILOT.
SO INITIALLY WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR THE PILOT BE FOR 32 YEARS.
AND THEN WHEN THAT'S OVER, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO REVISIT IT TO WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS FINE WITH ME.
FRANKLY, MOST OF WHAT WE DO AT THIS POINT IS AT LEAST 50 YEARS.
AND MOST OF IT, A LOT OF IT IS 99 YEARS AS A PILOT PAYMENT.
IS THE, THE 1900 FOR LIKE THE SCHOOL, THE TOWN, AND IF I WERE JUST, JUST ONE, IT'S 1900 IS THE PILOT PAYMENT.
AND THEN THE OTHER, THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS ARE ALL AT THE SORT OF STANDARD RATE.
SO THE EFFECTIVE TAXES OVERALL ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN 1900.
SO LET'S SAY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WELL, THAT'S IN THERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE SCHOOL, THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN.
BUT THEN THERE'S A FIRE DISTRICT, THERE'S A SEWER DISTRICT, UH, THERE'S YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.
SO ALL IT'S PROBABLY IN ALL COMES OUT TO CLOSER TO $2,500 WOULD BE OUR TOTAL TAXES.
BUT THE PILOT, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ONLY, WE'RE ONLY ASKING YOU, I THINK YOU'RE ACTUALLY ONLY ALLOWED TO, UH, TO A PILOT ON THE STANDARD DISTRICTS, NOT THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS.
SO, UM, AS MARK SAID, THE LAND USE APPROVALS ARE IN PLACE.
WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED WESTCHESTER COUNTY FUNDING APPROVAL ON THE NEW HOMELAND ACQUISITION MONEY.
UM, WE'RE HOPING TO FINISH THE PILOT WITH YOU THIS MONTH OR NEXT, UM, NEW YORK STATE H C R FUNDING.
WE'RE GOING TO BE APPLYING FOR IT SHORTLY AND THAT WE SHOULD HEAR IN THE FALL, ASSUMING WE GET THAT.
AND WE WOULD EXPECT THAT WE WOULD, WE'LL START CONSTRUCTION.
WELL, WELL, I, I JUST WANNA MENTION THE LAND USE APPROVALS ARE IN PLACE, BUT WE ARE GONNA MAKE A REQUEST FOR SITE PLAN AMEND.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME FOR YOU AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS ON THOSE CHANGES, RIGHT? SORRY.
AND THE MAJOR APPROVALS IN PLACE, THE CHANGES ARE NOT YET IN PLACE.
UM, THE CONSTRUCTION START WILL BE, DEPENDING ON A BUNCH OF THINGS, IT'LL PROBABLY BE FEBRUARY OR MARCH.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS NOT A LARGE DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD THINK WE'LL BUILD IT IN ABOUT 18 MONTHS, START TO FINISH.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'LL BE PROBABLY 10 TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE WHO WANNA LIVE HERE AS WE HAVE APARTMENTS.
SO WE'LL GO FROM FINISHING CONSTRUCTION TO FULLY OCCUPIED IN A MONTH, AND THEN WE GET TO HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING.
HOW MANY, UH, KIDS WOULD YOU THINK WOULD YOU ESTIMATE WOULD BE THE RANGE IN TERMS OF, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? YEAH, I THINK IT DEPENDS.
IT DOESN'T, IT HAS NO THREE BEDROOMS, WHICH ARE REALLY, WOULD GENERATE A LOT OF KIDS.
I WOULD GUESS WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH A LOW OF 10 AND I OF 15 OR 18, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ACROSS THE, YOU KNOW, ON AVERAGE LESS THAN A KID A GRADE PROBABLY.
AND ALSO IN TERMS OF, UM, LIKE IS THERE A BLASTING, UH, THAT YOU EXPECT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION? UM, WE'RE
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TRULY NOT THERE YET.WE HAVE TYPICALLY BEEN HAMMERING, NOT BLASTING.
UM, THE NATURE OF THIS SITE IS THERE'S NO BASEMENT.
WE HAVE SUCH A ESSENTIAL SLAB ON GREAT BUILDING, SO I DOUBT WE'LL HAVE BLASTING.
I THINK IT WILL JUST BE, IF WE HAVE ANYTHING, IT'LL JUST BE SOME OUR CAMERA.
AND, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, THIS, YOU HAVE THE, THE SISTERS, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, THERE THE IMPACT TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE CI DURING THE CONSTRUCTION AND ALSO YOU HAVE, UH, SOME APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, NEAR THERE AND SOME RESIDENTS HAVE, YOU KNOW, ASKED ME, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT COULD THEY EXPECT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, RIGHT.
SO FIRST WE'LL REACH OUT TO THE, TO OUR NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, AS WE JUST ARE DOING, HAVE DONE IN TARRYTOWN, WE'LL DO PRE-BLAST INSPECTIONS OF, UH, ALL THE HOMES REGARDLESS OF WHETHER BLASTING OR JUST SO THAT WE'RE SORT OF PROTECTING OURSELVES AND THEM.
UM, WE'RE NOT SO CLOSE TO ANYONE THAT I ACTUALLY THINK THERE'LL BE ANY IMPACT WHATSOEVER.
BUT THE FACT THAT I KNOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY KNOW THAT.
SO WE'LL MEET WITH THEM AND DISCUSS IT WITH THEM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANY REAL IMPACT ON THEM.
I THINK THAT PROBABLY THE LARGEST IMPACT, WE'LL JUST BE THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC AS WE'RE BUILDING DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS SORT OF A, A NECESSARY EVIL THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF THE ROAD.
UM, YOU KNOW, IS THERE GONNA BE, UH, CHANGES TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DRILL MORE ROAD, YOU KNOW, LEADING.
YEAH, THERE WERE, THERE WERE IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVALS, WHICH REALLY HAD MORE TO DO WITH THE SHOULDER THAN THE ROAD ITSELF.
UM, ALSO, I'M GLAD ACTUALLY YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, AS A MATTER OF COURSE AS WE'LL VIDEO THE ROAD BEFORE WE START, SO WE ALL HAVE A RECORD OF WHAT THE ROAD LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NOT AT ALL UNLIKELY THAT WE'LL END UP HAVING TO DO SOME WORK TO THE ROAD AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS AGAIN, STANDARD.
UM, PAUL, I THINK WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NATURE CENTER HERE.
HOW ARE YOU? NICE TO MEET YOU.
SO I'M THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THE NATURE CENTER.
UM, SO WE WILL BE NEIGHBORS AND I HOPE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHAT, UM, ABOUT CONSTRUCTION.
I JUST WANNA BRING UP SOMETHING.
WE HAVE ANIMALS ON PROPERTY, SO IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.
AND THEN IN, UM, THE SLIDE, IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THE OUTDOOR SPACE THAT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT DOING.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? SURE.
CAN YOU GO BACK SIX OR SEVEN SLIDES? OKAY.
SO SINCE LIKE, I HAVE NO POINT.
SO WHEN YOU COME IN FROM DRUM MOORE, UH, AND YOU TAKE A RIGHT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE TOP OF THE SCREEN DOWN TOWARD THE DEVELOPMENT.
YOU TAKE A RIGHT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET INTO THE BUILDING.
ON THE LEFT IS AN OUTDOOR RECREATION AREA.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT 7,000, 7,000 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL.
I MEAN, FRANKLY, I WISH THERE WAS A, I WISH THERE WERE A BIGGER SITE AND WE COULD DO MORE RECREATION ON THE BUILDING, BUT I THINK ON THE SET YOU TALKED ABOUT, UM, THERE WERE, UM, I GUESS INCREASED SETBACKS THAT YOU WERE CONSIDERING.
SO OVERALL, OUR BUILDING'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER MM-HMM.
WE LEAVE, I'LL GIVE YOU MY CARD.
REACH OUT TO ME, WE GET TOGETHER.
AND I'LL ACTUALLY HAVE MY CONSTRUCTION FOLKS MEET WITH YOU TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
WHAT'S THAT? NO, I, I, AS FAR AS THE PILOT IS CONCERNED, I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE TO MAKE THE AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
WHAT, WHAT'S, AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH EDIE.
SO WHAT IS THE, THAT, THAT'S JUST GONNA BE PART OF, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS WITH YOU? WE'LL, WE'LL JUST REQUEST IT IN A LETTER OR HOW DO YOU WELL, ON THE PILOT IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE THE PILOT DONE AHEAD OF OUR MISSION APPLICATION.
A C R 'CAUSE IT WILL SHOW THE TOWNS BEHIND ON THE PROJECT.
I MEAN, WE, BECAUSE FOR THE FINANCING, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THE NUMBERS.
SO IF WE COULD GET THAT MOVING REAL QUICKER, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
SO GENERALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN, WE DO THAT BY RESOLUTION.
AND EDIE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE TOWN BOY TO CONFIRM THOSE TERMS. OKAY.
AND THEN WE'D ADOPT A RESOLUTION.
SO WE'VE GIVEN HER THE TABLE AND ALL THE STUFF THAT SHE'S ASKED FOR.
BUT IF YOU COULD HAVE THAT MEETING AND WE CAN GIVE THAT, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
YEAH, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE.
AND SHE WAS ACTUALLY HERE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER, I THINK SHE HAD.
GREAT TO SEE YOU TURN THIS OFF.
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A SUGGESTION.ONE OF THE TWO OF YOU MAY WANT TO TURN ON THE MICS BECAUSE DAVID FRIED SAYS HE CAN HEAR PAUL FINE AND THE SPEAKER'S FINE, BUT BOTH OF YOU CANNOT HEAR AT ALL.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I DON'T THINK.
YEAH, SO I KNOW WE'RE GETTING SOME FEEDBACK, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
I'M GONNA BRING ANOTHER CHAIR UP.
SO THE THREE OF YOU ARE GONNA BE MAKING HI.
REALLY? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
OH YEAH, IT'S, IT TAKES A WHILE ACTUALLY.
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I'M GLAD, THAT'S WHY MAKING, I DIDN'T, I, I DIDN'T EVEN, IT NEVER CAME THROUGH MY PHONE, SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS LISTENING TO.ALL IT'S IS, I DUNNO THAT IT WAS, IT WAS, YOU COULD HEAR MUSIC IT FROM PHONE THAT, SO I PLAYED IT.
IS IT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING? IS IT WENT OUT THERE? YOU KNOW, SHE SAID SHE CALLS THE POLICE.
WE HAVE HOW MANY AREAS OF TOWN? THE ONLY AREA OF TOWN, I DUNNO WHAT SHE EXPECTS.
GO AND ADDRESS IT AS PROFESSIONALLY AS WE CAN WITHIN THE DAVIES.
SO NEXT ON OUR LIST, TODAY IS A UPDATE ON THE CRIMINAL MISCHIEF INCIDENT AT 1115 NORWOOD ROAD.
UM, I THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT WITH ME.
I WANNA INTRODUCE CAPTAIN MIKE DIO, THE COMMANDING OFFICER OF OUR DETECTIVE DIVISION, AS WELL AS DETECTIVE DAVEY JACKELL, WHO IS THE LEAD INVESTIGATOR ON, ON THIS CASE.
AND, UM, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO CAPTAIN DIO, TO GIVE A, A SUMMARY OF THE INVESTIGATION, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WE HAD AT TIMES TWO TEAMS OF DETECTIVES INVESTIGATING THIS CASE.
WE HAD INTERVIEWED 44 INDIVIDUALS, WE CANVASSED AND, UH, FOR EVIDENCE, 67 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
WE HAD THREE SUBPOENAS THAT WERE ISSUED, AND THE DETECTIVES REVIEWED OVER 20 HOURS OF VIDEO SURVEILLANCE.
SO, UH, A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND RESOURCES WERE PUT INTO THIS.
AND WITH THAT SAID, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CAPTAIN CIO.
UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE A, UH, A SLIDE SHOW UP.
UM, AND HE'S GONNA GO THROUGH IT HERE.
BUT, UH, JUST TO GIVE THE FIRST, UH, UM, SLIDE IS THAT THE INCIDENT TOOK PLACE AT 1150 NORWOOD ROAD, UH, MAY 13TH, UH, AT 7:32 AM GREENBURG POLICE RESPONDED TO THE AREA 1150 NORWOOD ROAD ON A REPORT OF A CRIMINAL MISCHIEF TO A TOWN OF GREENBURG PROPERTY.
UPON ARRIVAL, GREENBURG POLICE DISCOVERED A PRE-EXISTING WOODEN SIGN, WHICH STATED, WELCOME TO GREENBURG, WHICH, UM, HAS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE, UH, ALONG WITH A NEWLY AFFIXED METAL SIGN BENEATH THE STAND, UH, THAT STATED, ALL LIVES CAN'T MATTER UNTIL BLACK LIVES MATTER HAD BEEN TAKEN DOWN SOME TIME DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS.
THE LAST TIME THE SIGN WAS SEEN ON DISTURB WAS ON, UH, MAY 13TH, UH, APPROXIMATELY 4:25 AM BY A GREENBURG POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS DOING A, UH, ROUTINE PATROL AND CHECK OF THE AREA.
THE WELCOME SIGN WAS AFF FIX THEIR METAL SIGN, WHICH APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN INTENTIONALLY KNOCKED DOWN WITH FORCE.
SO, UH, IT WAS AFFIXED TO FOUR BY FOUR POLES, UM, YOU KNOW, FACING THE NORWOOD ROAD.
UM, THE OFFICER PASSED BY, SAW THAT IT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, STILL IN PLACE.
UM, LIKE THE CHIEF SAID, WE HAD A NUMBER OF, UH, OFFICERS GO OUT IN TEAMS TO CANVAS, UH, NUMEROUS LOCATIONS, UM, FOR VIDEO SURVEILLANCE.
UH, UM, 67 RESIDENTS, UM, WERE CANVASED FOR VIDEO.
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UM, THAT'S THE MAP OF THE AREA.YOU KNOW, AT FIRST WE DIDN'T, WE WEREN'T SURE, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, WHICH DIRECTOR TO TRAVEL OR, UH, IF ANYTHING WAS CAUGHT ON VIDEO.
SO THEY CANVASED AS MUCH AS THEY COULD.
THEY CANVAS YIELDED MORE THAN SEVERAL HOURS.
UH, SOME IN EXCESS OF 15 HOURS OF VIDEO FOOTAGE, WHICH WAS COM UH, COPIED AND MADE PART OF THE CASE FILE.
MAJORITY OF THE KEY VIDEO FOOTAGE OBTAINED DOES NOT CAPTURE CRIME LOCATION DIRECTLY AND, AND WAS OBSTRUCTED BY TREES OR SHRUBBERY.
MANY OF THE BUSINESS LOCATIONS SHOW THE AREA, HOWEVER, THE LINE OF SIGHT IS OBSTRUCTED OR DISPLAYED VERY LOW QUALITY FOOTAGE, WHICH SOME ONLY RECORDING BASED ON, UH, MOTION, UM, VIDEO CAMERA PLACEMENT FOR MANY OF THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, UH, WERE ALSO TOO FAR FROM THE SCENE OF THE ROADWAY.
UM, TO MAKE, UH, PERSONAL IDENTIFICATIONS EXTENSIVE VIDEO REVIEW WAS CONDUCTED.
PRIOR DETECTIVES, UM, DEEMING SEVERAL LOCATIONS TO BE OF NO EVIDENTIARY VALUE TO THE CASE NORWOOD DAILY.
UH, D V R WAS, UH, RECOVERED AND REVIEWED BY THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY HIGH CRIME, UH, HIGH-TECH, UH, UNIT, UH, NEGATIVE RESULTS FOR EXAMINATION FOR THE TIME WINDOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND WE ALSO DID EXTENSIVE, UH, LICENSE PLATE RATE OF REVIEW AND ANALYSIS WITH NEGATIVE RESULTS.
THE, UH, ACT WORKED WITH THE DA'S OFFICE AND, UH, ISSUING SUBPOENAS, REQUESTING EXPEDITIOUS, UH, RESPONSE FROM THE CHASE BANK, WHICH WE THOUGHT WOULD HAVE THE BEST VIDEO CAMERA FOOTAGE FOR THE, UH, THE BANK.
UM, THE LOCAL BRANCH DA ALONG WITH, UH, ATTORNEYS FROM THE, UH, WHITE PLAINS OFFICE, A D A CATALINA MIGO.
SHE'S IN THE BIAS AND HATE CRIMES, UH, COORDINATOR, UM, AN INTERIOR A T M MACHINE.
CAMERA ALONG, UM, THE EXTERIOR BANK DROP CAMERA IS POSITIONED ON THE EXTERIOR THAT THE ANGLE WAS THOUGHT TO PROVIDE, UH, THE VIEW OF THE, OF THE CRIME.
A SUBPOENA WAS ISSUED TO CHASE BANK FOR THE VIDEO.
AND WILL, UH, WE HAVE IT HERE, UM, AN UNKNOWN SUSPECT SILHOUETTE APPEARING TO CHOP DOWN THE SIGN.
UM, THE FOLLOWING WAS DEVELOPED, UH, AFTER WAS THE TIMELINE.
THE SIGN WAS ERECTED BY GREENBURG D V W AT 3 33 O'CLOCK AT 3:30 PM MAY 13TH, 3:42 AM A SUSPECT IS SCENE ON VIDEO WALKING WEST ON MAYFAIR TOWARDS THE CRIME SCENE LOCATION, AND CROSSES OVER NORWOOD.
UM, THROUGH OUR SONOCO VIDEO AT 3 42, UH, A SUSPECT SILHOUETTE IS SEEN ON VIDEO DESTROYING THE AREA WHERE THE SIGN STOOD TO GET THAT FROM THE CHASE VIDEO 3 43, THE SUSPECT SILHOUETTE IS SEEN WALKING EAST ON MAYFAIR, WAY AWAY FROM THE CRIME SCENE, GET THAT FROM THE SUNOCO VIDEO.
AND AT 3:43 AM SUSPECT IS SEEN WALKING EAST ON MAYFAIR, ALONG THE TREE LINE OF EIGHT, MAY, MAY MAYFAIR WAY.
SO, OBVIOUSLY, UH, DETECTIVE JOL HAD TO GO THROUGH MANY HOURS OF VIDEO TO CATCH THIS, UH, ONE GLIMPSE HERE, AND IT'S UP.
UM, AND WE CAN SHOW YOU THE VIDEO, BUT BASICALLY YOU SEE A SILHOUETTE WHERE THE CAMERA'S, WHERE THE ARROW'S POINTING ON THE, UH, SCREEN, AND YOU JUST SEE A DARK FIGURE, JUST LOOK LIKE A CHOPPING MOTION, UH, TO THE SIGN AND THEN QUICKLY DISAPPEAR.
THIS IS THE SUNOCO VIDEO, WHICH SHOWS THE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL OF THE SUSPECT, THE SILHOUETTE CROSSING OVER NORWOOD, WALKING ON A MAYFAIR ROAD.
SO THOSE, THOSE RED ARROWS INDICATE THE YEAH.
THE ARROWS ARE INDICATING INDIVIDUAL INDICAT WHERE THE SUSPECT, THE SILHOUETTE IS.
AND THIS IS THE CAMERA FROM EIGHT MAY OF FAIRWAY, WHICH CATCHES THAT LITTLE DOT THAT YOU SEE BETWEEN THE SHRUBS CROSSING IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
I'M GONNA GO WITH THE CHASE VIDEO.
SO, SO CAPTAIN, HOW, HOW WOULD THIS BE CATEGORIZED? UM, MANY RESIDENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTED THAT IT WAS CONSIDERED A HATE CRIME.
BUT HOW DO OUR POLICE, HOW DOES OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CATEGORIZE IT? WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A CRIME THAT WE SPENT, UH, NUMEROUS HOURS ON, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE INVESTIGATING WITH ZEAL, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, UH, THAT THE SIGN WAS KNOCKED DOWN, UM, WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN, IN TRYING TO SOLVE MM-HMM.
SO WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED VANDALISM? WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED, WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED A HATE CRIME? WELL, THE SPEAK TO MIKE.
SO IF, IF I COULD JUST SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE MM-HMM.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY WILL CLASSIFY A SPECIFIC CRIME BASED ON THE FACTS.
SO IN THIS CASE, WE'RE LABELING IT OR IDENTIFYING IT AS A POSSIBLE HATE CRIME.
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FOR THIS CRIME MM-HMM.IT COULD VERY WELL BE A HATE CRIME.
AND, AND WHEN WE, HOPEFULLY, IF WE WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP A SUSPECT, IF THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTS THAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY WOULD, WOULD ADVISE US TO CHARGE IT AS A HATE CRIME.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LEGAL SUFFICIENCY TO CHARGE IT AS SUCH.
BUT THE ULTIMATE CALL, IS THAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY? THAT'S CORRECT.
WELL, THANK YOU CHIEF, FOR CLEARLY ANSWERING THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN CLEARLY ANSWERED.
AND, UH, OUR, OUR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE RAISED THAT QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION FOR OUR POSSIBLE, POSSIBLY LISTENING AND VIEWING PUBLIC.
WE ARE JUST, UH, TRYING TO GET THE VIDEO QUEUED.
SO WHERE ARE WE NOW TO, LIKE, WHERE, WHAT POINT ARE WE AT HERE? IS THAT, SO I, I'M THE CA CAPTAIN MAY GET TO THAT, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE, WE'VE EXHAUSTED, UM, THE INVESTIGATIVE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US.
UH, WE PLAN ON, YOU KNOW, RELEASING THE VIDEO TONIGHT.
UM, WE THINK IT, IT HAS PROBATIVE VALUE BECAUSE IT HELPS US WITH OUR TIMELINE AND OUR, OUR FACTS.
UM, IT MAY NOT HELP US WITH AN IDENTIFICATION, BUT IF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS ABLE TO RECOGNIZE ANYTHING THAT COULD BE IDENTIFYING IN THIS VIDEO, WE WANT TO ASK FOR THE PUBLIC'S HELP.
SO IT COULD BE A SIZE OF A SILHOUETTE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE REALLY LIMITED WITH WHAT WE CAN SEE HERE.
BUT IF IT'S A PARTICULAR GATE, A SILHOUETTE, SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY CAN HELP US WITH, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S CERTAINLY ONE OF OUR GOALS TONIGHT.
DO YOU KNOW IF, UH, LIKE THE BANK AND SOME OF THE, UH, THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS COULD SORT OF LEARN FROM THIS? BECAUSE, UH, IF, IF THE VIDEO, THE QUALITY OF THE VIDEO IS REALLY PRETTY POOR, UM, WOULDN'T THEY WANT TO UPGRADE THEIR, UH, THEIR VIDEO, UH, SYSTEMS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO GET VIDEO SIGN ON THE STREET.
NO, BUT NO VIDEO OF THE ATMS. RIGHT.
BUT THEY MAY, I'M JUST ASKING IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY UPGRADE THEIR VIDEO TECHNOLOGY.
YOU KNOW, I'D, I'D LIKE TO UP TO RECOMMEND IT GET TO COUNCILMAN JONES POINT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESPONSE OR THE PUSHBACK I WOULD EXPECT, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SMALLER SCREEN, I MEAN, IT'S VERY, IT'S, IT'S VERY CLEAR VIDEO FOR THE AREA THAT THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY CAPTURE.
SO IF YOU LOOK BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE INTENTION OF THAT CAMERA.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE EVEN SPOKE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO JOHN MOTO YEARS AGO ABOUT AN ORDINANCE ENCOURAGING BUSINESSES TO HAVE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE IN THEM AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING GOING FORWARD.
SO WE WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HAVE CAMERAS AND TO IMPROVE CAMERA QUALITY.
SO I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE.
UM, BUT WHERE, WHERE I, WHERE I HAVE THE MOUSE, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT AROUND HERE.
YOU BASICALLY SEE SOMEWHAT OF A, A BLACK BUBBLE SILHOUETTE AND IT'S, IT'S RELATIVELY FAST.
UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.
SO TAKE THAT AWAY IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT AWAY THERE.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE THE, THE CUTTING OR CHOPPING SNOWING
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YEAH.THE ONE FOUR BY FOUR POST THAT WAS CUT.
AND AGAIN, WE WERE VERY HOPEFUL WHEN WE SAW THIS V VIDEO MONITOR DURING THE DAY, BECAUSE DURING THE DAYLIGHT YOU CAN SEE MUCH, MUCH BETTER.
BUT AS IT TURNS OUT, WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE THE NIGHTTIME HOURS AND THE IRIS IS ADJUST FOR INSIDE, WE WERE VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE A BETTER QUALITY EXTENDING OUTSIDE IN THE DARKNESS.
THE, UH, THE NEXT VIDEO I'M GONNA PLAY IS FROM A SONOCO GAS STATION, UM, WITH SOME SHEER LUCK.
UM, RIGHT AROUND 3 42, THERE IS A VEHICLE THAT PULLS OUT OF THE GAS STATION, UM, THE HEADLIGHTS OF THAT VEHICLE, REMARKABLY BASED OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY, AND ACTUALLY ILLUMINATE THE SUBJECT IN QUESTION AS HE'S WALKING ACROSS NOVO ROAD TO COMMIT THE CRIME.
IF YOU FOCUS IN THIS AREA, YOU'LL SEE A, A BLACK MERCEDES BENZ PULL OUT.
AS HE PULLS OUT, HE ILLUMINATES RIGHT AROUND HERE AND YOU'LL SEE A, UH, A SUBJECT STANDING THERE.
HE ALMOST GETS STARTLED BY THE HEADLIGHTS.
UM, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THE MOUSE WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE SILHOUETTE SUBJECT FROM THE HEADLIGHTS.
UM, IT SHOULD BE WITHIN THE NEXT 20 SECONDS.
DAVE, IF YOU COULD JUST LEAVE IT BELOW.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GET IT BACK TO YOU.
I'LL, UH, PAUSE IT RIGHT WHEN, UM, OKAY.
SO I KNOW IT'S TOUGH TO SEE, UM, THE RIGHT, RIGHT ABOUT HERE, THAT'S WHERE THAT IMAGE IS.
SO THE, THE HEADLIGHTS FROM THE MERCEDES ILLUMINATE RIGHT HERE, AND YOU ACTUALLY SEE THE SHADOW FIGURE, UM, GET STARTLED.
AND THEN IF YOU ACTUALLY GOT CLOSER TO IT, THERE'S SOME SORT OF REFLECTIVE ITEM THAT CAN BE SEEN WALKING, UM, AS IT CONTINUES ACROSS, UH, MILLER ROAD.
SO THAT IS THE SYNOPTIC GAS STATION VIDEO PLACES HIM COMING FROM THE DIRECTION MAIN THERE.
DAVID, CAN YOU PLAY THAT AGAIN? 'CAUSE I DID NOT SEE IT ON THE BIG SCREEN HERE.
IF I GET JUST ABOVE THE, IS, UM, WHERE YOU,
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IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO SLOW, DAVE? TO, TO PLAY IT IN LIKE A SLOW MODE? YEP.THERE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW TEDIOUS IT IS TO LOOK AT YEAH.
THEY HAD IT SIT THROUGH ABOUT 20 HOURS JUST TO FIND THE TIME THAT THE SIGN WAS KNOCKED DOWN, WHICH REALLY AMAZING IS THEY CATCH THE HEAD BETWEEN THE HEDGES.
UNFORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
WE'RE NOT THERE STILL PART TO SEE, YOU JUST SEE A GLO, YOU SEE LIKE THE FLASH, YOU JUST A LITTLE FLASH UP ON THE, IT'S DOES THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT EVEN EXIST WHERE THEY CAN ZOOM IN UP COURSE? SO SPAGHETTI OR NOT? NO, LIKE WE HAVE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE HOMELAND SECURITY ON ENHANCEMENT, UM, THIS VIDEO AND FOR OTHER CASES, AND IT'S EXTREMELY RARE THAT THERE'S MUCH ENHANCEMENT AT ALL THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN, CAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT THOSE SEE WHERE IT SAYS SOUTH SIDE? YEP.
JUST TO THE TOP LEFT OF THAT, THERE'S A STOP SIGN.
IMMEDIATELY TO THE LEFT OF THAT.
YOU'LL, THAT'S WHERE THE SILHOUETTE IS.
POPS, YOU'RE JUST LIKE TWO LITTLE CLOSES AND YOU'LL SEE THAT SIGN GET OBSTRUCTED THERE.
YOU WHAT TIME? WHAT TIME WE'RE AT? 3 42 AND 12 SECONDS AT 3 42 AND 13 SECONDS.
YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, THERE WE GO THING.
YEAH, THAT LITTLE, IF YOU ACTUALLY GOT UP AND LOOKED AT IT ON THE LAPTOP, YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE LIKE A BETTER, A BETTER VIEW.
IT GETS, AND THEN, UH, YOU WANT ME TO GO TO THE EIGHT AFFAIR? YEAH, PLEASE, DAVID.
SO ON THIS ONE, THE TIME IS NINE MINUTES FASTER.
UH, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY MOTION BASED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A RABBIT IN THE YARD OR IF THERE WAS A BUG FLYING NEARBY, BUT AS ONCE UPON COMPLETION OF, OF HIM KNOCKING DOWN THE SIDE.
UM, RIGHT WHERE MY, WHERE RIGHT WHERE MY MOUSE IS, YOU'LL SEE THE SILHOUETTE OF, OF THE TOP OF SOMEONE'S HEAD ACTUALLY CROSS AND TRAVEL THIS WAY.
AND THEN RIGHT AROUND HERE, YOU'LL SEE THE TOP OF HIS HEAD AS HE CONTINUES EAST ONTO, OKAY.
AND THEN WE SHOULD BE COMING UP IN THAT LITTLE V AND THERE YOU GO.
CHIEF, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT SMALL MICROCHIP TYPE CAMERAS ON THESE SIGNS? I MEAN, IT, IT, IT WOULD SEEM GOING FORWARD THAT ANY SIGNAGE THAT ADDRESSES A CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE, SUCH AS THIS ONE ON THAT, THAT SERVES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, RAISE SOCIAL AWARENESS AND CONSCIOUSNESS, UM, MAY BE THE TARGET OF, UH, OF, UH, ATTACK OR VANDALISM.
AND JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, SINCE THIS IS TOWN PROPERTY, IS IT POSSIBLE TO, TO INSERT SOME KIND OF A CAMERA EQUIPMENT ON THESE SIGNS? WELL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INSTALLING CAMERAS ON THEM.
WE'VE, I THINK I'VE TALKED TO THE BOARD ABOUT IT AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED TO THE DETECTIVES HAVE
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TALKED ABOUT IT, SO MM-HMM.WE'LL QUICKLY GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN ON, UM, THIS WAS, I BELIEVE, THE MAY 25TH INCIDENT WHERE THERE WAS CRIMINAL MISCHIEF TO, UH, BLACK LIVES MATTER SIGN AT TWO 20 TAXTER ROAD.
SO, UH, ANOTHER, UH, MAY 25TH, UH, GREENBURG POLICE RESPONDED TWO 20 TAXTER ROAD ON A REPORT OF CRIMINAL MISCHIEF TO BLACK LIVES MATTER SIGN.
SIGN WAS PLACED BY THE HOMEOWNER AT TWO 20 TAXTER ROAD IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
THE METAL SIGN IS COVERED WITH PLEXIGLASS AND WAS SUPPORTED BY TWO METAL POLES.
UH, THE METAL SIGN STATED BLACK LIVES MATTER.
THE LAST TIME THE SIGN WAS SEEN ON DISTURB WAS THE EVENING OF MAY 24TH, UH, BY THE HOMEOWNER.
THE DAMAGED SIGN WAS LATER DISCOVERED BY THE HOMEOWNER IN THE MORNING OF, UH, MAY 25TH.
UM, THE SIGN HAD IN, UH, BEEN INTENTIONALLY DEFACED WITH WHITE PAINT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE, OF THE SIGN.
UH, THIS IS THE AREA THAT THE DETECTIVES CANVASED FOR, UH, CONDUCT A VIDEO, UH, CANVAS FOR, FOR THE DAMAGE.
UH, THE CANVAS YIELDED A SINGLE VIDEO RECORDING, WHICH WAS LIMITED TO THE PARTICULAR RESIDENCE WITH NO EVIDENTIARY VALUE FOR OUR CASE.
UH, LITERAL, YOU KNOW, THE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE OF, UH, BUSINESS LOCATIONS HAD OBSTRUCTIVE VIEWS AND DISPLAYED, UH, LOW QUALITY FOOTAGE OF ANY INVESTIGATORY VALUE.
UM, THE BROAD TIMEFRAME AND THE INCIDENT LICENSE PLATE, UH, RITA REVIEW AND ANALYSIS DEAL NEGATIVE RESULTS.
UM, JUST SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY STUFF, UH, THAT THE DETECTIVES CONDUCTED.
UH, A WRITTEN STATEMENT WAS TAKEN BY A, UH, LOCAL RESIDENT WHO WAS ASSISTING, UH, IN REPAIRING THIS DAMAGED SIGN.
UM, THE GREEN BREAK DETECTIVES, UH, RESPONDED TO MAIN STREET IN IRVINGTON TO ATTEMPT TO LOCATE POSSIBLE INDIVIDUAL WHO COULD HELP US, UH, UH, FOR ENHANCING THE CASE.
UM, AND AN INTERVIEW WAS CONDUCTED IN GREENBURG.
DETECTIVES WERE INDIVIDUALS STATED THEY HAD NO INFORMATION.
UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DETECTIVE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, IN REGARDING THIS CASE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE VERY LIMITED WITH, UH, ANY LEADS.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE, UM, DA'S HIGH TECH CRIME BUREAU.
WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S, HIGH TECH CRIME BUREAU ON BOTH CASES AS WELL.
AND, UM, THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY POLICE REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER.
AND, UM, AND SOME OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS AS WELL.
YOU FOLKS OR ANYTHING YOU HAVE, ANY INFORMATION, ANYTHING? I THINK IT'S ON, UH, UM, WE CAN PUT ON A SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE.
UM, ALSO WE CAN, UM, PUT IT OUT.
WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS WE ARE GONNA PUT UP LINKS TO THE VIDEOS ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
UM, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REVIEW THEM, AND IT'LL HAVE ALL THE CONTACT INFORMATION ON THERE.
YOU KNOW, CALL THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT MAIN NUMBER, ASK FOR DETECTIVES.
WE'LL HAVE THE DETECTIVE DIVISION NUMBER THERE, 9 8 9 1 7 2 5.
UM, BUT I THINK THE BEST NUMBER WE LIKE, THAT'S, MAN, 24 7 IS 9 8 9 1700, THE MAIN NUMBER.
YOU KNOW, I, I STILL THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY GET THESE VIDEO CAMERAS, THEY THINK THAT THE VIDEO CAMERAS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, BETTER THAN THEY, THEY MIGHT BE.
AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, HELPFUL.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST FOR THIS, BUT FOR EVERYTHING TO SORT OF EDUCATE PEOPLE AS TO THE LIMITATIONS OF DIFFERENT VIDEO EQUIP, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT THEY MAY WANT TO BUY.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE FOOTAGE HERE IS LIKE, REALLY SO BAD.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF THE EQUIPMENT WAS BETTER, IT MIGHT'VE GIVEN YOU MORE LEADS.
MAYBE YOU WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND A, SEE SOME GET INFORMATION ABOUT THE CAR OR SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT'VE HAD MORE, YOU KNOW, AM YOU KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO PUT VIDEO CAMERAS, THEY EXPECT, YOU KNOW, THEY THINK IT'S GONNA DO MORE THAN, THAN THEY ACTUALLY DO.
WELL, AGAIN, THEY'RE FOCUSING ON, YOU KNOW, THEIR FRONT STEPS.
THEY'RE NOT FOCUSING ON THE AREA BEHIND THE
A DISTANCE AWAY COULD ACTUALLY BE USEFUL TO YOU.
SO ANYONE WITH ANY INFORMATION ABOUT EITHER OF THESE INCIDENTS SHOULD CONTACT CAPTAIN DCIO? UH, THEY COULD CONTACT ME.
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YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GIVE 'EM A DIRECT LINE SO, YOU KNOW, 24 7, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET A MESSAGE, UH, ACROSS US.I WENT TO
SHE SENT EVERYBODY, UM, A NOTE AND WE SORT OF HAVE TO ACT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY ON THIS BECAUSE, UH, THE TOWN, UM, BASICALLY, UM, THERE WAS A COMPUTER GLITCH WITH, UH, THE, THE APRIL TAX BILLS.
UM, SO WE BOTH RECOGNIZED IT WAS A TOWN'S FAULT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE AT TOWN HALL TODAY SAYING THAT THEY NEVER GOT THE, THE TEXTBOOKS VENITA SPOKE TO ME AND SHE FEELS THAT THE PENALTY SHOULD BE REDUCED FROM 5% TO 2%.
UM, WHICH WOULD BE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING THESE ENORMOUS PENALTIES WHEN IT WAS NOT THEIR FAULT.
UM, SHE SAID THERE'S ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE WHO PAID, UH, THE LATE PENALTIES, UM, YOU KNOW, ON, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST YESTERDAY OR, OR TODAY.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SHE'S RECOMMENDING WE GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, PARTIAL, UH, A PARTIAL REFUND.
YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NOT BE TOTALLY ELIMINATING THE PENALTY.
WE WOULD JUST REDUCE IT FROM 5% TO 3%.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF PE TODAY.
THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, VENITA WAS OUTSIDE HERE AND JUST TALKING TO, YOU KNOW, MANY TAXPAYERS.
THIS IS NOT THE TYPICAL WAIVER, UM, REQUEST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S CLEAR THAT IT WAS THE TOWN'S FAULT.
WAS THAT CORROBORATED BY, UM, YEAH, M I S DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND, UM, DEEPAK SAID THAT HE MADE A MISTAKE.
WHAT? I'M SORRY, DEEPAK SAID HE MADE A MISTAKE.
I SPOKE TO, THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE EMAIL THAT REFERS TO HIM FROM VENITA, BUT I, I NEVER SPOKE TO HIM.
I DON'T KNOW IF PAUL DID, I DIDN'T SPEAK TO, BUT YOU KNOW, SHE JUST SAID NITAS SAYING, I BELIEVE IT WAS AN ERROR BETWEEN OURS DEPARTMENT.
BUT IF IT'S TURNED, IF IT, IF YOU KNOW, WE'RE RIGHT AND IT WAS A TOWN'S MISTAKE, WOULD THE BOARD BE OPEN TO, UH, HAVING A REDUCED PENALTY? I THINK WE SHOULD DO THE EVIDENCE FIRST BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISION.
WE MAKE BEFORE WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION IS JUST SPECULATION.
YOU WANT ME TO GO OUT IN THE ROOM AND JUST CHECK, CALL, UH, DEEPAK, OR, YOU KNOW, THIS WAY WE COULD GET THE INFORMATION, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA WANNA SPEAK TO HIM.
RIGHT? I THINK WE NEED TO SPEAK TO HIM ON THE BOARD.
BUT IT, IT DOES REFER TO SS C A PROGRAMS AND P A S PROGRAMS. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK HAVING THEM ALL IN THE ROOM TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE HELPFUL.
TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND BY THAT, WHAT WRONG WITH THE PROGRAMS WE USING, IF THAT DID HAPPEN, RIGHT.
THE, THE, THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THE PENALTIES KEEP INCREASING.
SO, UM, SO THE THING IS, BY JULY 30TH, BY AUGUST 1ST, THEY'LL BE PAYING MORE.
AND IF SOMEBODY BASICALLY IS HOLDING OUT, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM.
BUT WE REALLY NEED TO NO, I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE BEFORE WE MAKE ANY TYPE OF DECISION.
YEAH, JUST NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHY WE COULD DO IN A TIMELY MANNER, SO THIS YEAH.
BUT BY THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, NOT, LET'S SAY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK, BUT THE FOLLOWING WORK SESSION, WHICH I THINK IS MAYBE THE 27TH OR THAT MIGHT BE THE MEETING AS WELL, MAYBE WE CAN INVESTIGATE AND, AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
AND IT MIGHT NOT EVEN INVOLVE A MEETING.
MAYBE IT'S JUST AN EMAIL TO THE BOARD EXPLAINING THE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE TIME TO RECTIFY IT.
SO IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS THEN RIGHT.
BUT I, I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD AT LEAST CONSIDER.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE AGAIN, IS PEOPLE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU TELL SOMEBODY LIKE THE LAST MINUTE, IT'S SORT NOT FAIR TO THEM, BUT DID YOU REACH OUT TO DEEPAK? I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REACH OUT TO DEEPAK.
I JUST REACHED OUT TO, TO THE COMPANY.
S THAT'S APPARENTLY DIDN'T HAND THE EXHIBIT CORRECTLY.
I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO RUSH, BUT THE, TO US, WITHOUT DOING ANY BACKGROUND WORK THAT COULD BEEN DONE ADVANCE, WE JUST, WE JUST, AND THEN TO SAY THEY'LL MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE THERE ARE PENALTIES,
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I DUNNO WHEN KNEW THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW,WHAT IF WE, UH, WE ARE GONNA, WE HAVE TO MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ANYWAY.
WHAT IF WE JUST, UH, MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND CALL HIM? NO, BUT HE STILL HAS TO DO RESEARCH.
MAYBE HE'S, MAYBE HE'S DONE RESEARCH.
MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE FOUND OUT WE BROUGHT IT UP.
I MEAN THAT'S, WELL, I JUST SPEAK TO VENITA.
BUT THERE'S TWO PEOPLE LISTED, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
I JUST SAW THE EMAIL THIS AFTERNOON.
SO SOME PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T GET, UH, NOTICES, UM, THAT THEY WERE, HAD A LIEN AGAINST THEM PRIOR TEXAS.
DID VI TO MENTION THAT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE BEEN PROVIDING NOTICES? YEAH.
SHE SAID SHE'S BEEN PROVIDING NOT THIS ISSUE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING FROM 2020.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT WAS SEPARATE.
BUT THIS WAS, THIS WAS UNUSUAL BECAUSE, UM, THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE WHO COMPLAINED.
WE NEVER, WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS BEFORE.
THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE GO INTO PAUL, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I JUST WANNA ASK WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THE FARMER'S MARKET AGREEMENT.
WE'RE ONLY A MONTH AWAY FROM THE LAUNCH OF THE, UH, GREENBERG TOWN HALL FARMER'S MARKET.
AND, UM, THE COORDINATOR, JOE CATONA, INDICATED THAT THE BOARD APPROVED THE, UH, LEGAL DOCUMENT.
HE NEEDS THE LEGAL DOCUMENT TO PRESENT IT TO HIS LAWYERS SO THAT HE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
SO IS THERE A STATUS UPDATE ON THE, UH, WHY THE AGREEMENT HAS NOT BEEN SHARED WITH HIM YET? DOES HE WANT IT APPROVED THE WAY IT WAS ADOPTED? EXCUSE ME.
DOES HE WANT, IS THIS A CONTRACT NEGOTIATION THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT? AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S, IT'S NOT A CONTRACT NEGOTIATION.
IT HAS TO DO WITH, FRANCIS JUST SAID IT WAS A CONTRACT NEGOTIATION.
IT HAS, THE CONTRACT WAS PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD CONTRACT.
WHATEVER GROUP YOU HAD AND MET YOU CAME UP WITH A CONTRACT THAT WHEN WE STARTED ASKING HIM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN DO YOU WANT TO START? HE CAN'T START AT 1230.
HE CAN'T BE OUT OF THE PARKING LOT BY SIX 30.
HE WANTS TO STOP SELLING AT SIX 30.
SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT.
WHEN COULD WHEN, BUT IF YOU WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T WORK.
WELL, I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD CAN DO.
BUT, WELL, LET ME ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE HE BASICALLY, WE HAVE TO START PUBLICIZING IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK, JUDITH THOUGHT, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REAL EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GONNA TAKE, IF WE COULD SAY TO HIM IN A DAY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A, A FINAL VERSION OR IN TWO DAYS, THAT'S FINE.
WE JUST HAVE TO GIVE HIM SOME SORT OF TIMETABLE.
AND THEN, AND THEN AGAIN, HE, HE HAS TO REACH OUT TO VENDORS MM-HMM.
SO I JUST DON'T WANNA PERSONALIZE THIS.
IT'S ABOUT A SERVICE THAT IS BEING DELIVERED AND RENDERED AND PROVIDED TO OUR PUBLIC.
AND IT'S, IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT.
UM, WE JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH RESOLVING WHATEVER GLITCHES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND RESOLVED.
SO I'M JUST ASKING, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING WHAT IS THE STATUS SO THAT, UM, WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, HOW TO STRATEGIZE TOWARDS, UH, UH, ACHIEVING A RESOLVE IN THIS MATTER? WELL, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE REALLY CLOSE AND I, I THINK BY THE END OF THE WEEK, AND I KNOW WE'RE HAVING A MEETING TOMORROW MM-HMM.
I THINK BY THE END OF THE WEEK WE'LL BE READY TO GO.
CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? COULD WE, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, WE APPROVED A, YOU KNOW, A CONTRACT.
COULD WE, COULD HE SHARE THAT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH HIS ATTORNEY? AND THEN, UM, AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO MODIFY IT, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT, LET'S SAY HE NEEDS A LITTLE EXTRA TIME TO, YOU KNOW, LEAVE THE PLACE OR MM-HMM.
EVERYBODY LIKES THE IDEA OF A FARMER'S MARKET, SO NOBODY ON THE BOARD DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT.
SO I JUST SORT OF FEEL, BUT HE NEEDS TIME AND IT'S ALREADY JULY 6TH.
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YEAH.SO, SO THE THING IS NOT IF WE REALLY WANNA MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL AND HAVE A, AND YOU KNOW, HE'S ALREADY SAID HE WANTS TO DO, THE FIRST WEEK IS THE FIRST WEEK IN AUGUST.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST LET HIM HAVE THE CONTRACT THAT WE'VE DONE, MEANWHILE WORK OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE DIFFICULTIES.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAKE AN AMENDMENT AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T WORK THE FIRST WEEK, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD TRY IT.
IF IT, IF THE FIRST WEEK THERE'S PROBLEMS, THEN WE COME BACK AND MM-HMM.
BECAUSE I SPOKE TO HIM YESTERDAY AND HE'S, HE'S GONNA START MM-HMM.
AND, AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HE HAS, I, I THINK WE CAN RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, WE CAN RESOLVE.
SO I THINK WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH, BUT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT DONE THIS WEEK.
HE WAS VERY AMENABLE WHEN I WAS ASKING HIM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT DO YOU REALLY NEED? HE WAS VERY AMENABLE.
AND AN EMAIL TO THE, WHOEVER I STATED THAT TUESDAY IS REALLY BOOKED AND THAT AFTER WE GET THROUGH TODAY, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, WE WOULD GO WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO PRIORITIZE THAT FARMER'S MARKET ABOVE THE OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU HAD US WORKING ON, WHICH FRANKLY WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS WITH, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS IN, WE, WE KNOW WE'RE DOING IT, IT IS IN AUGUST.
THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT CAME UP THAT I WAS LED TO BELIEVE WAS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS.
AND IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT BEING ADDRESSED, IT'S JUST IN A QUEUE TO BE ADDRESSED.
BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT'S IN THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, PUT FORTH INITIALLY AND WHAT REALLY IS NEEDED TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA WORK ON.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD GET, IF, IF WE COULD SAY TO HIM, LISTEN, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON IT THIS WEEK AND WE'RE GONNA HOPEFULLY HAVE EVERYTHING WORKED OUT ON FRIDAY, BUT MEANWHILE HE COULD GO, HE COULD START MAKING PLANS TO, UM, REACH OUT TO THE OTHER FARMERS.
AND THE THING IS, WHEN WILL HE BASICALLY BE ABLE TO START, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IDEALLY THERE SHOULD BE LIKE A BANNER OUTSIDE THE TOWN HALL THAT'S BEEN ORDERED.
SO THE THING IS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO THEN SHORTLY, WHEN WOULD WE BE ABLE TO START LETTING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE FARMER'S MORTGAGE? THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE INTERNS TAKING ON.
AND THEY'RE GONNA START THAT THIS WEEK, BUT IS A PREMATURE, I'M SAYING THE CONCERN I HAVE IS A PREMATURE TO, I MEAN, IF WE HAVE A CON, IF WE'RE IN CONCEPT, EVERYBODY SAYS WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS WORK.
IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT THIS THING, YOU KNOW, COULD FALL APART? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO, WHAT, WHAT DOES THE BANNER SAY? THE BANNER SAYS ON, UH, GREENBERG TOWN HALL FARMER'S MARKET THURSDAYS, AUGUST THROUGH OCTOBER.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC DATES.
OH, IT SAYS, IT SAYS, IT SAYS THURSDAYS TWO.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT SAYS TWO O'CLOCK OR TWO 30 TO SIX 30, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, PRETTY GENERAL, IT'S, IT'S A KIND OF BANNER THAT CAN BE USED YEAR AFTER YEAR.
'CAUSE THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC YEAR YEARS PUT ON IT.
UM, BUT, UH, NO, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT HE WANTS, HE WANTS IT ACTUALLY TO GO TO NOVEMBER.
BUT WE DON'T, IF RIGHT NOW, IF IT'S LIKE OCTOBER AND THEN WE MODIFY IT, YOU KNOW, UH, IN OCTOBER, IF IT, IF IT'S WORKING OUT AND EVERYBODY LIKES IT MM-HMM.
THE MAIN, THE MAIN CONCERN I REALLY HAVE IS, UM, STARTING TO GET THE WORD OUT IN THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM.
AND THE MORE PEOPLE THAT KNOW ABOUT IT, THE BETTER THE CHANCES ARE THAT, UH, THERE'LL BE, IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL INITIALLY.
NO, THE NOVEMBER WAS A SUGGESTION THAT HE HAD WEATHER PERMITTING MM-HMM.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S A FESTIVE TIME WHEN PEOPLE STILL GO TO GET BY PUMPKINS AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT LEADING UP TO THANKSGIVING.
BUT THAT'S NOT IN THE CONTRACT.
HE UNDERSTANDS THAT IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, HE'S OKAY WITH THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A TRIAL, KIND OF A FARMER'S MARKET.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DO THIS AGAIN, MAYBE WE NEVER DO THIS AGAIN, BUT WE JUST KIND OF FEELING IT OUT TO SEE WHAT THE INTEREST IS.
SO LET'S SHOOT FOR THE END OF THE WEEK OR FINALIZE.
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WITH HIM, RIGHT? YES.WE HAVE A THREE 30 MEETING TOMORROW.
'CAUSE HE'S NOT AVAILABLE THE REST OF THE WEEK, SO WE JUST WANT TO GIVE HIM A COMFORT LEVEL.
AND MAYBE, UH, FRANCIS, WOULD YOU BE AVAILABLE TOMORROW? THREE 30? I'M NOT TOMORROW, BUT, BUT OH, HE'S NOT AVAILABLE.
REST OF, YEAH, I THINK HE'S OUT THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT THAT DAY, BUT, UM, BECAUSE IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VIDEO OF THE QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH, THAT REALLY RESULTS, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO IT IS REALLY NOT, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A MAJOR ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MAKING IT INTO ONE, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT A MAJOR ISSUE.
NO, THEN, THEN I'M, I'M THRILLED.
I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER ISSUE I WANNA MENTION.
I THINK THIS IS REALLY OPEN SESSION.
SO AGAIN, GETTING A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT THE PERMITS AND THE LLCS.
UM, AND I KNOW WE MODIFIED THE BUILDING APPLICATION TO ONLY REQUIRE A NAME AND A ZIP CODE, BUT THAT IS PROBLEMATIC FOR SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ABOUT 10 PEOPLE WHO JUST CAN'T GET PERMITS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF WHICH IS 10 COUNTY CENTER ROAD AND THAT ISSUE.
BUT THERE ARE A FEW OTHERS, INCLUDING ROBERT MARTIN, WHO'S THE OWNER OF SEVERAL ESTABLISHMENTS, BUT THEY ARE AN L L C ON TOP OF AN L L C.
SO, YOU KNOW, I PROMISED THEM THAT I WOULD BRING THIS ISSUE UP BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STAGNANT RIGHT NOW.
IF THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE DECISION, THEN THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO HAD A CON CONTESTED RACE.
SO I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO, YOU KNOW, RAISED, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, RAISED, YOU KNOW, FUNDS IN THIS CAMPAIGN.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT WHAT, WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HIRED AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
WE BASICALLY ARE SAYING THAT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO HELP REVITALIZE THE LOCAL ECONOMY.
AND IF ALL, EVERY, ALL THESE SMALL BUSINESSES ARE COMPLAINING THAT THEY CAN'T, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THAT THIS IS HOLDING UP THEIR OPERATIONS AND THEY CAN'T GET PERMITS AND THEY, YOU KNOW, IT IS CREATING PROBLEMS. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN WITH THE COOPERATION OF THE ETHICS BOARD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO THE ETHICS BOARD AND, AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, A PROBLEM.
WE DON'T WANT TO, UH, ERODE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, UH, ETHICS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE ETHICS LAWS DETERIORATE AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOW LOOKING FOR LOOPHOLES, BUT MAYBE THEY COULD COME UP WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LAWYER'S BEING COMPLIED WITH, YOU KNOW, WE, EVERYBODY HAS TO FILE THE FINANCIAL REPORTS.
WE COULD, I COULD REACH OUT TO ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE BUSINESSES.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, LET THEM KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTED TO MY CAMPAIGNS FROM ANY OF, FROM ANY OF THESE, UH, UNIT BUSINESSES, BECAUSE HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? YEAH, YOU HAVE TO CHECK.
RIGHT? SO THE ISSUE, RIGHT, THE ISSUE IS LIKE, ONE OF THE COMPANIES SAYS, TIM, THERE ARE 110 MEMBERS OF THE L L C, SO I HAVE TO SOME OF WHOM I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
SO I HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM, GET THEIR NAMES, GET THEIR ZIP CODES, AND IT'S JUST NOT A PRACTICAL THING THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO.
SO THEY WANT ME TO COME UP WITH AN INTERPRETATION THAT SUGGESTS THE OWNER IS THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS WHO'S LEASING AS OPPOSED TO THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IS, IS REALLY A, A, A VALID DISTINCTION TO MAKE.
SO I CAN'T MAKE THAT INTERPRETATION UNLESS WE WANT TO DO THAT.
BUT I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT, IT SEEMS LIKE PARTICULARLY WITH THE JUUJITSU PLACE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED, I MEAN, I, YEAH, I'M, I'M WELL AWARE OF THE JI DISCIPLINE.
SO THEY'RE GONNA START A CAMPAIGN TO REACH OUT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THIS ISSUE BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A, IT'S AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE FOR SOME PEOPLE.
SO, BUT I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE IMPRESSION, FIRST OF ALL, THEY THINK IT'S A NEW LAW.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT CAME FROM THE ETHICS BOARD, THAT PROVISION MM-HMM.
I REACHED OUT TO THEM AND I MENTIONED ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT OR, UH, WE'RE HEARING ABOUT FROM THIS.
AND, UH, THEY AGREED THAT, AND THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION IS INSTEAD OF, I THINK THEY HAD HOME ADDRESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON IT, AND THEY HAD, FIRST OF ALL, THEY LIKED THE IDEA OF DISCLOSURE, UH, BUT JUST THE PERSON'S NAME, RESIDENT'S NAME, AND THEIR, UM, ZIP CODE MM-HMM.
BUT APPARENTLY PEOPLE REALLY DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE THE
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ACTUAL WHO'S, WHO'S EVEN MY ZIP CODE, WHO IS PART OF AN LLC.WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS THE ARGUMENT IS THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION OTHER THAN HAVING AN APPLICANT PUT IT ON AN, AN APPLICATION.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A CANDIDATE WHO RECEIVES A CONTRIBUTION CAN DO A CERTAIN DUE DILIGENCE TO FIND OUT WHO THE L L C MEMBER IS WITHOUT NECESSARILY PUTTING IT ON AN APPLICATION.
YOU CAN GO TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE, AND UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE WILL RELEASE THAT INFORMATION TO CANDIDATES, AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY, WHAT ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES? WELL, IF THE CANDIDATE ARTICULATES A GOOD REASON WHY THEY WANT THAT INFORMATION, THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE SEEMS TO BE SAYING, YES, IF YOU SEND US SOMETHING, WE'LL RELEASE THAT INFORMATION.
BUT NO, IT'S NOT LISTED ON A WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN GO TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND JUST GIVE IT OUT.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, UH, THE PURPOSE OF AN L L C IS TO REALLY LIMIT LIABILITY, NOT SO MUCH TO SHIELD THE MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE ENTITY.
YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT LIKE INFORMATION THAT'S GONNA HURT ANYONE, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A QUESTION OF WHERE'S THE BURDEN? IS IT THE BURDEN ON THE CANDIDATE WHO'S ACCEPTING THE CONTRIBUTION TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE? OR IS THE BURDEN ON THE APPLICANT WHO'S FILLING OUT THE APPLICATION TO DISCLOSE INFORMATION? WHERE IN SOME INSTANCES, IF YOU'RE A LEASER, A LESSER, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
YOU GOTTA RELY ON THE, ON THE BUILDING ORDER, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S WHERE YOU SHIFT THE BURDEN IS WHERE THEY WOULD'VE COMES DOWN TO.
AND TO ME, THAT'S A, THAT'S A DECISION.
YOU KNOW, YOU COULD STILL COMPLY WITH THE ETHICS LAW BY SHIFTING THE BURDEN, SO YOU JUST HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEST, BUT I'M GETTING THE CALL, SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP, IS THEY'RE NOT CALLING YOU, THEY'RE NOT CALLING YOU, THEY'RE CALLING ME.
AND SO I REALLY JUST FELT THE NEED TO BRING IT UP.
AND WE HAVE A GREAT BUSINESS AND WANTS TO RELOCATE, AND IT'S GONE THROUGH ALMOST ALL THE APPROVALS, UM, AND CAN'T GET A BUILDING FROM THERE.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REAL HEARTBREAK.
AND PARTICULARLY POST PANDEMIC, THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ALL SPORTS FACILITIES WERE ESSENTIALLY SHUT DOWN AND, UH, AND, UH, YET THE LANDLORDS STILL WANTED THEIR RENT MM-HMM.
SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? I DON'T HAVE AN EASY SOLUTION WITHOUT THE ETHICS BOARD INVOLVED.
SO MAYBE WE SHOULD WRITE TO THE ETHICS BOARD.
LET'S WRITE TO THE ETHICS BOARD AND ASK THEM IF THEY COULD HELP US.
YOU KNOW, THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WANNA DO THE RIGHT THING AND, UH, THEY REALIZE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUES ALSO, SO MAYBE THEY COULD COME UP WITH SOME GOOD IDEAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL WORK.
SO WE SHOULD GET THAT OUT TOMORROW.
ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THEN ALTHOUGH YOU, YOU, YOU MAY, I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE ROBERTA WITH, UH, SOME PERSONALITY.
IS SHE STILL HERE? ROBERTA LEFT? YEAH, WE'RE TOO.
UM, WHAT'S OUR SCHEDULE COMING UP? ARE WE NOT HAVING A WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, TIM? YEAH.
WELL, I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE UNAVAILABLE, SO LIKE MYSELF FOR EXAMPLE.
SO, SO ON THE 13TH WE'RE NOT HAVING A WORK SESSION, BUT WE ARE HAVING A TOWN BOARD MEETING ON THE 14TH, OR WE'RE NOT? NO, 2020 SEVENTH.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE 20TH WORK SESSION ON 20? YES.
I THINK THERE IS, WHICH IS THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY? YES.
AND I THINK THE TOWN BOARD MEETINGS ON THE 27TH, CORRECT? YES.
NOW, DO YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING A WORK SESSION IN ADVANCE OF THAT MEETING, OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE A TOWN BOARD MEETING? RIGHT, ON TUESDAYS, OUR, OUR WORK SESSIONS ARE GONNA START AT FOUR 30.
WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO NOTICE THIS ONE, TO MAKE IT FOUR 30.
AND THE MEETING WILL START AT SEVEN 30 ON THE 27TH.
THE WORK SESSION WILL BE AT 4 30, 30.
IT'S A PLANNING BOARD MEETING ON THE, UM, 21ST, I BELIEVE.
NOW THAT THEY'RE BACK IN PERSON, MAY OKAY.
WE WERE GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON THEIRS ON BY ZOOM.
THERES AT 7 45 AND WE START AT EIGHT.
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EVENING HOURS.AND NEXT WEEK APPARENTLY NOTHING.
SO PAUL, YOU HAVE MADE A MOTION TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION SECOND BY SECOND.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT WHAT WE DOING.
WHAT IS IT? WHAT'S THE NATURE OF THE SECOND PORTION? I THINK IT'S PERSONNEL INVOLVING, UM, EMPLOYMENT.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK THAT WE'RE DOING.