* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY, GOOD EVENING, AND, UH, WELCOME BACK [ FINAL TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD GREENBURGH TOWN HALL AGENDA WEDNESDAY, July 7, 2021 – 7:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ] TO A LIVE MEETING. UH, TODAY'S MEETING IS, UH, WEDNESDAY, JULY 7TH, 2021. UM, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE MET IN PERSON. UH, SO WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF ZOOM MEETINGS WILL BE IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S STILL AN ISSUE UP IN THE AIR WITH THE STATE AND THE TOWN BOARD. BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, WE WILL HAVE, UH, LIVE MEETINGS WITHOUT, UH, ZOOM. AND THAT WILL BEGIN AT SEVEN O'CLOCK UNTIL THE, WE HAVE FURTHER NOTICE FROM THE TOWN. UH, I ASKED, UH, DEPUTY CHAIR SCHMIDT TO CALL THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MICHAEL . HERE. TOM. HERE. . HERE. SCHWARTZ HERE. YOU WANNA PHRASE THAT HERE? HERE. NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT MR. SNA IS NOT PRESENT WITH YOU. OKAY. THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING, AND THAT IS THE MINUTES OF JUNE 16TH. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS, OR ADDITION TO THE MINUTES OF, UH, JUNE 16TH? UH, I, ONE TINY TYPO. PAGE THREE, SECOND PARAGRAPH, THIRD LINE FROM THE BOTTOM. IT SAYS, UM, THE REDUCTION IN THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY AND OR USAGE IF OUS MATERIAL SHOULD BE OF OUS MATERIAL. THAT'S IT FROM ME. ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS OR ADDITION TO THE MINUTES? IF NOT, I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS, UH, REVISED. I, UH, SO MOVED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED OWN HEARING AND NONE. THE MINNESOTA APPROVE. UH, THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, CORRESPONDENCE. UM, DEPUTY SCHMIDT WAS, UH, KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE US THE TALLY OF THE VOTING THAT WE HAD IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS THE IDEAL TIME. UH, COINCIDENTALLY IT CORRESPONDS WITH THE DECISION OF THE TOWN THAT, UH, UH, UH, LOOKING AT DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CIVIC LEADERS, THEY ALL CAME OUT TO SEVEN. SO APPARENTLY IT'S NOT A BAD DECISION TO CONTINUE THE MEETINGS AT SEVEN. UH, THE NEXT THING IN CORRESPONDENCE, WE HAVE, UH, CASE PB 1627, VAL SUBDIVISION. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A 90 DAY EXTENSION. UM, PART THE ISSUE IS WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. THERE'S CERTAIN DOCUMENTATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE BEFORE THEY CAN GET APPROVAL. SO THAT WORK IS ONGOING. SO THEY ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. THAT BEING THE CASE, I, I SEE NO REASON WHY WE WOULD NOT APPROVE A 90 DAY, UH, EXTENSION. SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE 90 DAY EXTENSION. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? A OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THE 90 DAY EXTENSION IS GRANTED. IT. UH, I, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IN CORRESPONDENCE. SO WE WILL GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOW. THERE, THERE IS A STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE REGARDING OUR PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S IN THE, ON THE AGENDA, BUT I JUST WANT TO TAKE A TIME TO READ IT, JUST TO REEMPHASIZE THE ROLE THAT, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, PLAYS. AND, UH, AND SO I JUST WANT TO READ THAT TO YOU. THE PLANNING BOARD IS A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS APPOINTED BY THE TOWN BOARD TO EVALUATE LAND USE APPLICATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN CODE. WHEN PROPERLY THE OWNERS SEEK TO DEVELOP THEIR LAND OR MAKE IMPROVEMENTS VIA SUBDIVISION, OR IF THEY WILL BE DISTURBING AN AREA WITH REGULATED STEEP SLOPE OR WITHIN WETLAND CORRESPONDENCE ADJACENT TO BUFFER AREA, THEY MUST APPLY THEIR PANEL BOARD FOR APPROVAL. I RE I EMPHASIZE THE NEXT PAR, UH, SENTENCE. IT IS A JOB OF THE PLANNING [00:05:01] BOARD TO BALANCE THE RIGHTS OF LANDOWNERS WHILE ENSURING ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITY ARE MINIMIZED. DECISION ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PROPOSED PLAN ARE BASED ON FACTUAL EVIDENCE AND REVIEWED BY FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE TOWN CODE, UH, AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE EVIDENCE PROVE PRIMARILY COMES FROM THE APPLICANTS, THE ADVISORS SITE VISITS CONDUCTED BY THE PLAN BOARD MEMBERS AND INPUT FROM THE TOWN STAFF, APPROPRIATE FIRE DISTRICTS, AND THE PUBLIC AS PART OF THE HEARING PROCESS. ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE, RELATIVE POPULARITY OF AN APPLICATION IS NOT A FACTOR IN PLANNING BOARD DECISIONS. DECISIONS ARE BASED ON THE FACTS PRESENTED THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT PROVIDES THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY AFTER HAVING THIS INFORMATION THAT WAS GENERATED. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO OPINE ON THE APPLICATION. WE DO NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK. WE DON'T HAVE A TIME LIMIT, BUT WHAT WE ASK IS THAT YOU ARE BRIEF TO A POINT AND DO NOT, UH, REPEAT WHAT A PREVIOUS, UH, INDIVIDUAL HAS STATED. IF YOU AGREE WITH THEM, SAY, I AGREE WITH, UH, MS. SOANDSO OR MRS. SOANDSO, OR, AND IF YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD, THEN YOU COULD ADD NEW INFORMATION. WITH THAT SAID, WE WILL GO TO THE FIRST, UM, UH, ADJOURN, UH, WHICH IS PB 2105 FERNCLIFF CEMETERY. THAT WAS ADJOURNED BECAUSE THAT, THAT WAS A, WE PROVIDED A, UH, A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN. THE TOWN HAS NOT THE, THE, BECAUSE OF THE CALENDARS. THE, THE TOWN DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK TO US, UH, PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. SO WE ADJOURN IT TO AFTER THE TOWN MEET ON THIS, ON THIS PROJECT. YOU'RE, THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE PLANNING BOARD'S WAITING FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO COMPLETE SEEKER WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT. WAS YOUR MIC ON? I DON'T THINK YOUR MIC'S WORKING AT ALL. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. GREAT. THANK YOU. SO THE TOWN BOARD HAS NOT COMPLETED SEEKER ON THIS PROJECT. IT'S SCHEDULED TO DO THAT AS JULY MEETING, WHICH I BELIEVE IS JULY 27TH. ALRIGHT, RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS THAT YOU ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE STEVE PERMIT TO THE AUGUST 4TH MEETING, WHICH IS THE MEETING NEXT FOLLOWING JULY 27TH. OH. DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A FORMAL VOTE ON THAT? YES. OKAY, I'LL MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. UH, THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, CASE PB 19 32, 2 50 FORT HILL ROAD. I ASKED THE, THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT CHAIR PERSON, MENTION THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA AS CASE NUMBER PB 1932, THE VAN NESS SUBDIVISION, LOCATED AT 2 54 HILL ROAD. EXCUSE ME. DO YOU NEED TO CALL THE ROLE FOR PUBLIC HEARING? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SHE, UH, BARBARA TOOK THE ROLE. BUT WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. WELL, GENERALLY OKAY. GENERALLY WE DO IT SPECIFICALLY FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. NO. OKAY. YES. FOR THE ROLL. AGAIN, BEFORE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION. SO, UH, MR. GOLDEN HERE. MR. HAY? HERE. CHAIRPERSON SIMON? HERE. MR. SCHWARTZ? HERE. MS. F*G? HERE. MR. DESAI? HERE AGAIN? NO, FOR THE RECORD, THAT IS NOT PRESENT. SORRY. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. SO, UM, AGAIN, CASE NUMBER 1932 PB 1932, VAN S SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 2 54 HILL ROAD, PO SCARSDALE, AND AN R 21 FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT HAS APPLIED FOR PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPROVALS FOR A PROPOSAL INVOLVING THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF ONE EXISTING LOT, APPROXIMATELY 67,075 SQUARE SIZE INTO TWO BUILDABLE LOTS. FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING ONE NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, PROPOSED LOT SEVEN A WOULD TOTAL APPROXIMATELY 33,186 SQUARE FEET AND WOULD BE IMPROVED WITH ONE NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. PROPOSED LOT SEVEN B WOULD TOTAL APPROXIMATELY 33,889 SQUARE FEET [00:10:01] AND AN EXISTING ONSITE RESIDENCE WOULD REMAIN. 13. REGULATED TREES ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL AS PART OF THE PROJECT REQUIRING A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A LANDSCAPING PLAN, WHICH WE'LL REVIEW WITH YOU THIS EVENING. THE PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS MATTER AT ITS JUNE 16TH MEETING. EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE WAS RECEIVED FROM A NEIGHBOR TO THE PROJECT SITE, MR. ROSENTHAL, WHICH WAS FORWARDED TO THE BOARD AND THE APPLICANT, AND MADE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD FOR THE PROJECT. FURTHER, AN EMAIL WAS DELIVERED AFTERNOON, WHICH WAS COPIED AND PROVIDED TO YOU THIS EVENING FROM THE HISTORIC BOARD RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. FEW COMMENTS I WILL ALSO PROVIDE A COPY OF THAT TO THE APPLICANT. HOWEVER, UH, LASTLY, I SHOULD SAY, BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER, STAFF HAS PREPARED A DRAFT SEEKER DETERMINATION FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. HEY, AARON GEORGE? NEED YOU ANY BETTER? ANY BETTER? OH, OKAY. DEPUTY CONVENTION INDICATED, UH, IN PACKET, IT WAS A, UH, , UH, UH, DECLARATION THAT, UH, THIS PROJECT IS HONEST ACTION AND, UH, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A, UH, UM, TWO VOTES. ONE, TO CERTIFY THAT IT IS AN UNLISTED ACTION, AND THE SECOND ONE TO, UH, , UH, APPLICATION. UM, SO ON THE FIRST ONE, I'M MOVED. UNLISTED. ACTION. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE. OKAY. ON THE SECOND, UH, VOTE WE HAVE TO TAKE, CALL THIS A . SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. YOU MAY PROCEED. ALL RIGHT. UH, GOOD EVENING. BEFORE START. I'M SORRY, I USUALLY DON'T DO THIS. MICHAEL SPEAKING ON MICROPHONE, PLEASE. OH, WHAT, WHAT WORK ARE THEY DOING ON THE HOUSE NOW? UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA GET TO IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT, UM, WELL, I MEAN, WE CAN DISCUSS IT. BASICALLY, THEY'RE RENOVATING THE EXISTING HOUSE INTO A LIVABLE, UM, DWELLING. I KNOW THE RENT. ALRIGHT, THANKS. I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF, I MEAN, THE PLANS AND, AND SPECIFICATIONS WERE SUBMITTED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. UH, BASICALLY, UH, THE BIGGEST THING, I THINK THE ARCHITECTURE HERE IS THAT THE, UH, HOUSE HAD TO BE RAISED SIX INCHES IN THE BACK BECAUSE THE BACK HAD SUNK, UH, MORE THAN SIX OR SEVEN INCHES. I I ONLY ASK 'CAUSE I PASS IT EVERY DAY, AND I'M CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON. DID YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU SPEAK? IT'S A CHALLENGE, MR. IT'S A CHALLENGE WITH THE MICROPHONE. SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE EXTRA EFFORT TO SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A MOVEABLE MICROPHONE THAT YOU COULD PICK UP, BUT JUST NOTICED THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO SPEAK THROUGH, UM, MASS AND, UH, INTO THE MICROPHONE. MR. CHAIR. UM, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MONITOR THIS ON TV. UH, YEAH, SO IF YOU CAN, UH, JUST DIRECT YOURSELF. AND THAT CONCLUDES MICHAEL, YOU AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO TRY TO SPEAK AS CLOSE INTO IT AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU ELLIOT. UH, TO FOLLOW UP WITH MICHAEL'S QUESTION, I, I WENT BY THERE TODAY IN A WAY. I ASSUME THAT ALL, ALL, ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE THERE WAS CLEARED BY THE HISTORIC BOARD, RIGHT? I, I READ ALL THAT PILE OF PAPER FROM THE HISTORIC BOARD AND WHAT'S GOING ON IS WITH A BUILDING PERMIT. AND WHAT I SAW GOING ON THERE TODAY WAS RECONSTRUCTION. I KNOW. I SAW YOU ACTUALLY IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING TODAY. OH. AND I SAID ALONE. YOU WERE, YOU'RE RECONSTRUCTING THE PORCH. I NOTICED. AND THEY DO. WHAT ELSE BESIDES RAISING THE HOUSE ARE THEY DOING FROM THE OUTSIDE? ANYTHING? WELL, BEFORE WE GET OFF POINT, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT. BUT LET'S FIRST TALK ABOUT THE, UH, THE SUBDIVISION AND THEN WE COULD, UM, ALSO TALK ABOUT THE EXISTING WORK DONE ON THE HOUSE. AND, UH, THERE WAS ALSO SOME COMMENTS IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSE THAT WAS, THAT MIGHT BE BUILT. SO LET'S FIRST TALK ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN TERMS OF MAKING, UH, UH, GOING THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION. THEN WE COULD ANSWER THOSE [00:15:01] QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY VALID QUESTIONS. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ANSWERED, BUT I LIKE TO DO IT STEPWISE. ALRIGHT. UM, FIRST OF ALL, YOU UH, UM, AARON HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE HISTORICAL BOARD HAD SUBMITTED SOME EMAILS, UH, RECENTLY. I HADN'T SEEN THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RELEVANT. WE JUST SAW IT WHEN HE WALKED IN HERE. CLOSER TO MIC. IT REFERS TO THE DESIGN OF THE DRIVEWAY. ALRIGHT. UM, BILL, WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT THE DESIGN OF THE DRIVEWAY. AARON, DO YOU HAVE THAT ORIGINAL, UH, HISTORICAL, UM, WHY DON'T START WITH THIS PRESENTATION FOR THE SUBDIVISION AND THEN WE'LL GO ON TO THE PROJECT. ALRIGHT. SO AS FAR AS THE SUBDIVISION IS CONCERNED, AS AARON HAD SAID, WE ARE DIVIDING, UH, 67,000 FOOT LOT INTO IN A R 20 ZONE INTO TWO, ABOUT 33,000 SQUARE FOOT. 33,000 SQUARE ROBOTS. UM, WE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A DRIVEWAY CURB CUT ON THE SUB EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. UH, AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT A CURB CUT, A NEW CURB CUT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE FRONT DOOR SO IT LINES UP WITH THE FRONT DOOR. UM, THERE WAS A COMMENT, UH, FROM THE TRAFFIC OFFICER WHO HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THE SITE DISTANCE. UH, WE DID, UH, REVISE THE SITE DISTANCE MAP TO HIS SPECIFICATION. WE ALSO GOT AN EMAIL THIS AFTERNOON, UH, THAT IT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO HIM THE SITE DISTANCE, UH, BEING EXTENDED TO THE ABOUT 330 FEET AND AT LEAST IN ONE DIRECTION. UM, SO THAT, UH, THE CURB CUT, UH, AND THE LOCATION IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT. RIGHT TO THE TRAFFIC OFFICER ELLIOT, WHERE'S THE CURB CUT OF THE NEW PROPERTY? UM, THE NEW PROPERTY IS, THE OLD PROPERTY IS THERE ON THE S CORNER, AND THE NEW ONE IS RIGHT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. UM, THE NEW, THE EXISTING CURB CUT'S GONNA BE USED BY THE, UH, NEW HOUSE. SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT CURB CUT. UH, THERE IS, UH, THERE, THERE IS A, UM, PLAN OR THERE IS A APPLICATION OR A PERMIT FOR A NEW GARAGE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE AS YOU SEE THERE WITH A DRIVEWAY. ORIGINALLY THE DRIVEWAY JUST RAN AROUND THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND THERE WAS NO GARAGE. UM, SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE ONLY PLACE TO PUT A GARAGE WHILE KEEPING THE, UH, ORIGINAL FRONT FACADE INTACT. UM, SO THERE WAS NO CHANGE REALLY TO THE FRONT FACADE. UM, WE DID, UH, DO A LANDSCAPE PLAN AS AARON HAD ALLUDED TO. UM, I GUESS IT'S UP, UH, IT'S ON A DIFFERENT DRAWING. UM, SO WE WERE TAKING OUT, UH, SEVERAL TREES IN THE FRONT. UH, THERE IS A MAJOR, UH, BEACH TREE, UM, ON THE, UH, JUST OFF THE DRIVEWAY THERE ON THE RIGHT THAT WE'RE SAVING. UH, WE MOVED THE DRIVEWAY. ORIGINALLY THE DRIVEWAY WAS GONNA COME UP IN THAT DIRECTION, BUT WE MOVED IT, UH, TO FACILITATE SAVING OF THAT TREE. UH, MOST OF THE TREES THAT ARE COMING OUT WERE NOT IN, UH, ANY GOOD CONDITION. UM, WE'RE JUST TAKING OUT THE TREES THAT ARE IN THE DRIVEWAY AREA NEAR THE CURB CUT NEAR THE EXISTING WALL. UH, WE ARE TAKING OUT SOME TR SOME TREES FOR THE PROPOSED BUILDING AND, UH, WE PROPOSED TO DO A, A SCREENING BARRIER BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS AS WELL AS ALONG THE SOUTHLY AND NORTHLY PROPERTY LINES TO SHIELD THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES FROM THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND I, I SHOULD ADD THAT I RECENTLY HAD SOME COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THEIR LANDSCAPING PLAN, UH, TO DIVERSIFY THE PLAN SCHEME TO MEET THE, TO NEW TREE ORDINANCE. AND THIS IS THE REVISED LANDSCAPE PLAN WHICH MEETS THAT. SO WE'RE SATISFIED IN THAT REGARD. WHAT ABOUT, BELIEVE IN OUR, GO AHEAD. AT OUR LAST MEETING, IT WAS, UH, SUGGESTED TO KIND OF STAGGER THE PLANTING ON THE PROPERTY LINE. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS ALSO . CORRECT. DO YOU WANT TO JUST GO THROUGH, DESCRIBE THE SCREENING BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES PLEASE? ALRIGHT. UM, SO THE SCREENING BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES, THEY'RE GONNA BE PLANTING, UM, SUGAR MAPLES, GREEN GIANT AES, UH, NORWAY SPRUCE, UH, UH, EASTERN REDWOOD HOLLYS AND CYPRUS. UM, SO WE INTERMITTENTLY DID SOME, UM, AES WITH SOME, UH, NORWAY SPRUCES ON THE NORTH ON THE NORTHLY NEW LINE AND THE NEW DIVIDING LINE THERE. UM, WE TRIED TO VARY THE, THE SPECIES, UH, IN THE GROUPING ON THE SUB LAKE PROPERTY LINE ALONG THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. WE HAVE SOME LELAND CYPRESS AND SOME AMERICAN HOLLIES, WHICH ARE ALSO, UH, EVERGREENS. UM, AND ON THE NORTH LEE PROPERTY LINE OF THE EXISTING HOUSE, [00:20:01] UH, WE'VE GOT SOME NORWAY SPRUCE, SOME LELAND CYPRUS, UH, IN THAT AREA ALONG IN NEW CONSTRUCTION. NOW CURRENTLY THERE IS A NEW HOUSE GOING ON ON THAT TAX LOT, ON THAT TAX LOT EIGHT. THAT IS NOT US. SOMEBODY ELSE, UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUT I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA BE TRYING TO ADD SOME MORE OF THEIR OWN SHRUBBERY IN THERE. UM, THE RED BLOODS, WHERE DO WE PUT THE RED BUDS? THOSE THERE IN THE FRONT RED BLOOD ON THE SOLY PROPERTY LINE, UH, JUST BY THE NORTH ARROW THERE. UH, AND A COUPLE OF NEW ONES IN THE FRONT, UM, ALONG THE DRIVEWAY. UM, REDWOODS HAVE A NICE REDISH COLOR FLOWER. UM, SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE, UH, THE, THE, THE LANDSCAPING, THE MINIMUM SETBACK FOR THE PROPERTY IS 30 FEET. UH, WE SHOW THE HOUSE ABOUT 50 FEET BACK. UM, WE TRY TO, TO DO IT NOT QUITE FAR BACK, UM, AS THE EXISTING HOUSE, BUT FARTHER THAN THE MINIMUM SETBACK. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? ELLIOT ARE, THINK THEY, WELL, DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH IS A VACANT LOT THAT WE DID A SUBDIVISION, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO. UM, AND THAT EXISTING HOUSE IS PROBABLY ABOUT 60 OR UH, 50 OR 60 FEET OFF OF THE STREET AS WELL. UM, AND THAT PROPERTY, UM, IS CURRENTLY FOR SALE, I GUESS, OR THAT LOT, I GUESS THE WHOLE PROPERTY. UM, SO THAT'S ABOUT IT. UH, THE DRAINAGE FOR THE NEW EXISTING FOR THE NEW HOUSE IS GONNA BE, UH, UNDERGROUND DETENTION. UM, WE DID SOME, UH, DRAINAGE DESIGN, PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE DESIGN, UM, FOR IT, FOR WHAT WE SHOW. UM, BUT GENERALLY THAT WILL HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AT THE TIME PERMIT IS, UH, ISSUED OR OKAY. BUT THE LOT IS RELATIVELY FLAT. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE FOR DRAINAGE. AND YOU'RE PUTTING IN, UH, COLEX ON THE EXISTING LOT TOO WITH RESPECT TO THE NEW DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? SORRY? YEAH, THE, UH, ANY OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE EXISTING HOUSE LOT IS ALSO GONNA GET DRAINAGE, UM, FOR ITS NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. AND I THINK THE BOARD AT THE WORK SESSION ASKED ABOUT THE SURFACE OF THE DRIVEWAY AND ITS WIDTH AND THE FOUNTAIN IN THE MIDDLE. I THINK THERE WERE SOME REVISIONS TO THAT, PREVIOUS PAVERS. AND, UM, YEAH, WELL, WE SHOW, UM, WE SHOW A GRAVEL IN THE MAIN FIELD OF THE, UM, OF THE DRIVEWAY WITH, UH, UM, I GUESS A PREVIOUS PAVEMENT, UH, BORDER ON THE OUTSIDE AND THE CURB, UH, IT'S THE HATCHING ON THE, ON THE DRAWING. UM, AS FAR AS THE DRIVEWAY AND THE EX, UH, DRIVEWAY. NOW WE CAN GO TO THAT HISTORICAL, UH, WE FOUND SOME, UH, PLANS, UM, THAT SHOWED THE ORIGINAL DRIVEWAY WHEN THE BUILDING WAS PROPOSED. UH, AND IT'S PLANTING AND IT'S A SIMILAR DRIVEWAY. THEY ACTUALLY HAD A SIMILAR DRIVEWAY. IT WAS, CAME IN STRAIGHT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE FRONT DOOR, HAD A MUCH BIGGER CIRCLE THAT, THAT YOU SEE THERE. UM, AND THEN WENT AROUND TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE, UH, AS WE ARE SHOWING IT. UM, SO HISTORICALLY, UM, WHAT WE'RE BUILDING IS A SOMEWHAT OF A RECREATION OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, PROPOSED. I THINK IT WAS BUILT THAT WAY. AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THEY, THEY CHANGED IT BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE RE THE FREESTANDING WALL IN THE FRONT OF THE STREET, THERE IS A SIGN, UH, A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN ITS, UH, CONSTRUCTION TYPE FOR THAT AREA. SO, UM, SOMEBODY HAD, HAD DISCONTINUED IT. WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE, THE MAKE SURE THE RECORD IS CLEAR ON, UH, ONE OF MR. UH, ROSENTHAL'S STATEMENT. HE QUESTIONED WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THERE WAS DUE NOTICE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC. I WAS AT THE SITE AND I SAW ONE REQUIREMENT WAS MET. THAT IS THE SIGN, UH, INDICATING THE PUBLIC HEARING. I JUST WANT TO BE REASSURED THAT THE LETTERS WERE SENT OUT TO ALL THE RESIDENTS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE PROPERTY. WAS THAT DONE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT? THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THE AFFIDAVIT, UH, INDICATING THAT THEY DID, YEAH. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE IF THAT WASN'T DONE, THEN WE COULD NOT HAVE THIS PUBLIC. RIGHT. I I JUST WANTED THAT TO GO ON THE RECORD THAT DUE NOTICE WAS GIVEN THEREFORE LEGITIMIZING THIS HEARING. THANK YOU. I THINK MR. ROSENTHAL'S COMMENT RELATED TO A CHECKLIST THAT IS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION APPLICATION [00:25:01] PACKAGE. MM-HMM. AND THE BOX RELATED TO NOTIFICATION WAS NOT CHECKED OFF, BUT THAT'S MORE FOR THE APPLICANT TO BE AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF SUBMISSION. SO THEY WERE PROPERLY PROVIDED. OKAY. I'M, I'M SORRY. YOU CAN CONTINUE NOW. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT I I DID GET THAT EMAIL FROM, UH, THE NEIGHBOR. I MEAN, I CAN GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THE POINTS THAT, THAT WE HAD. YEAH. UM, AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY, THE SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS A, A EASEMENT FOR STREET WIDENING PURPOSES. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AGING SANITARY SEWER THAT IS IN, IN THE STREET. WE SHOW THE SHOW THAT EASEMENT ENDING, UM, JUST THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE THERE. UM, BUT THAT ONLY WAS FOR STREET, UH, UH, EASEMENT FOR STREET WIDENING PURPOSES. UM, IS THERE A SIMILAR ONE FOR YOUR PRO FOR THE PROPERTY? WE DON'T PROPOSE ONE. NO, NO, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT CURRENTLY ONE THOUGH. OKAY. THANK YOU O OKAY. OKAY. NOW MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, THE TOWN ON EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FEET IS ACTUALLY TOWN PROPERTY. YES. AND SO IF YOU APPLY THAT REQUIREMENT TO YOUR PROPERTY, WHERE WOULD THAT LINE BE? WOULD IT BE THE FIRST YEAH, THE, UH, THE HEAVY LINE IS OUR RIGHT OF WAY LINE OF, OF THAT AREA IS, UM, THERE'S QUITE A, QUITE A, A DISTANCE FROM THE CURVE. THE CURVE LINE ON THE DRAWING IS THE STONE CURVE. UH, WELL NOW IT'S CONCRETE, BUT IT WAS STONED. UH, THAT'S THE DOUBLE LINE THERE. THEN THERE'S A NEW SIDEWALK THERE, NEW MCCAN SIDEWALK, THEN A LANDSCAPE AREA THAT'S RELATIVELY GRASS AND THEN THE WALL. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF AREA. I THINK THAT THAT ROAD WIDENING PURPOSE OR THAT EASEMENT, WHICH THEY HAVEN'T WIDENED THE ROAD, UH, SINCE, UH, 1982 WAS BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A CURVE IN THE ROAD. WELL, A CURVE IN THE ROAD IS WAY PAST, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY TOOK IT AT THAT, ON THAT PROPERTY. AND, UH, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE PROPER SITE DISTANCE, THE TOWN JUST PAID FOR A NEW SIDEWALK TO GO IN. UM, AND WE HAVE AN EXTRA, UM, FOUR OR FIVE FEET OF GRASS AREA. I DON'T KNOW WHY, UM, IT WOULD BE NECESSARY IN FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT IF, IF THE TOWN REQUIRES TO TAKE IT, AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE WAS PROPOSING THAT. I THINK IT WAS A QUESTION SINCE IT SHOWS UP ON THE DRAWING. YEP. RIGHT. UM, THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, AGAIN, WITH THE CHECKLIST, UH, NUMBER NUMBER SIX WAS NOT CHECKED. UM, THERE IS NO CO IT WAS ABOUT, ARE THERE ANY COVENANTS OR RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY? THERE ARE NONE. UH, WE DID SUBMIT A, UH, WETLANDS AND WATERCOURSE FORM THAT STATES THERE ARE NO, UM, EASEMENTS OR RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY. UM, I THINK THAT THE, UH, WELL, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE 500 FOOT OR LAND. UM, WE DID, UH, GET THE, UH, TRAFFIC OFFICER TO ACCEPT OUR INCREASED OR, UH, INCREASED SITE DISTANCE MAP. SO BECAUSE HE ASKED ABOUT SITE DISTANCE, UM, THE NEXT POINT IS ABOUT THE, UH, E A F FORM, I GUESS. UM, WE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC. HE ASKED ABOUT THE DETERMINATION OF THE PROPERTY. WE CHECKED NO AS BUT ABOUT THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF THE PROPERTY. UM, THE QUESTION READS I'M PARAPHRASING ABOUT IS THE PROPERTY ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER? IT IS NOT, UH, IT'S NOT ON THE STATE REGISTER. IT'S NOT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER. UH, WE UNDERSTAND THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE SITE. WHEN WE WERE HERE ORIGINALLY, WE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED THIS APPLICATION FOR THE, UH, PREVIOUS OWNER WHO LIVED IN A HOUSE. AND, UM, SHE SOLD IT MIDSTREAM. SO THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED OWNERSHIP. BUT, UH, THE, THE SELLER OF THE HOUSE, THE ORIGINAL OWNER DIDN'T WANT IT TORN DOWN. THIS PURCHASER IS RENOVATING IT, UH, TO LIVE IN. AND YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE, WITH THE LOCAL HISTORICAL YES. RESERVATION. YEAH. UM, HE TALKED ABOUT, HE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE, THE SIDEWALK HAVING PONDING. UM, I'M NOT SURE HISTORICALLY WHERE THAT IS, BUT I KNOW THAT THE TOWN, UH, HAS, UH, UM, CON HAS REPLACED THE SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA. I LOOKED AT THE SITE TODAY WHEN I WAS OUT THERE. THERE'S NO, IT, IT, THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK IS HIGHER THAN THE STREET. I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE PONDING COULD OCCUR. UM, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT HE'S, UH, WHAT HE'S ALLUDING TO IN THAT COMMENT. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE SIDEWALK WAS INSTALLED? UM, THE LAST FIVE, AARON, DO YOU KNOW? WITHIN THE LAST FEW. WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND THAT WAS DONE BY THE TOWN? CORRECT. UM, [00:30:02] SO ON ON ON THE E A F 17 B, IT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, RUNOFF FROM THE PROPERTY AND WE CHECK NO, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE CONTAINING ALL OUR WATER ON SITE. UH, PERHAPS A REVISION TO THAT IS THAT THERE IS RUNOFF GENERATOR FROM THE SITE, BUT WE'RE MITIGATING IT ON SITE AND THEREFORE THERE'S NO, UH, RUNOFF TO THE NEIGHBORS, THAT TYPE OF THING. SO THAT'S WHY WE CHECKED. NO, ORIGINALLY. UM, THEN THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PART TWO ON THE E A F THAT IS FILLED OUT BY THE LEAD AGENCY AND NOT BY US. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT WAS NOT FILLED OUT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DECLARE LEAD AGENCY AND GO THROUGH SECRET YET. RIGHT. THAT'S NOW BEEN COMPLETED. AND THEN THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT A ROADWAY IN THE BACK ON HIGH POINT. SO, UM, THERE IS A, SOME VACANT PROPERTY THAT IS NOW BEING DEVELOPED BESIDES TO THE NORTH, BUT ALSO TO THE, UH, WEST OF THE PROPERTY. UM, THAT ROADWAY THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS A DRIVEWAY TO A NEW HOUSE. UH, IT'S NOT A ROADWAY, IT'S NOT GOING THROUGH. ONCE WE BUILD THESE HOUSES, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR A ROAD TO GO IN ANY EVENT. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OTHER THAN THERE'S NO PROPOSED ROADWAY GOING IN. UM, I THINK THAT WAS ALL HIS QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD. I, I THINK THE OTHER ONE RELATED TO TRAFFIC GENERATION IN CONNECTION WITH ONE NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. UM, YEAH, I MEAN, A NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ISN'T GONNA GENERATE, BASICALLY GENERATES ONE TRIP, UH, A PEAK HOUR A DAY, PEAK MORNING, PEAK AFTERNOON. SO IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC GENERATION. ARE THERE ANY QUE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR BOARD MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC? YEAH, I THINK BEFORE I GO TO THE PUBLIC ASKING THE QUESTION, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION. UH, REGARDING THESE COMMENTS CAME FROM, UH, I CAN'T, UH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK UP? CORRECT, YEAH. THE COMMENT THAT, UH, UH, ARMENIA FROM HISTORICAL BOARD REGARDING THAT, UH, UH, MATCHING THE, MATCHING THE DRIVEWAY TO, UH, WHAT IS IT WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE INSTEAD OF, UH, SHORT DRIVEWAYS THAT HAD BEEN PROPOSED. SO, SO KIND OF LOOKS, UH, SIMILAR, UH, UH, FRONTAGE. UH, SO HAVE YOU LOOKED AT IT OR YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON IT? UM, YEAH, SO WE HAVE THE, UH, PROJECT ARCHITECT HERE WHO CAN COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THAT AND ALSO TALK ABOUT THE QUESTION, OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD. UH, NOW IF YOU'D LIKE ABOUT THE, WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE HOUSE IN THE NO, LET'S FIRST FINISH THIS, THIS BEFORE HE STARTS. I JUST WANT JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, CORRECT THE EMAIL YEAH. CAME AT FOUR 10 TODAY AND WAS SUBMITTED, YOU KNOW, TO THE APPLICANT AND TO THE BOARD THIS EVENING. SO, UM, YEAH, THEY, LET'S SEE IF THEY HAVE A COMMENT. YEAH, NO, I JUST WANT, I UNDERSTAND. I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR SO THAT THEY MAY NOT KIND OF AN ANSWER. CORRECT. I JUST READ, I JUST READ IT ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. I'M JUST ACTUALLY GIVING THEM TIME TO READ IT. SURE, DEFINITELY. UM, YEAH, I HAVEN'T EVEN HAD TIME TO READ THAT. NO, I UNDERSTAND EMAIL YET. AND WHILE THEY'RE READING IT, I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE DO HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT DOES WISH TO SPEAK AFTER, BUT AFTER WE HAVE, WE FINISH THIS, SO WE MOVE ON. BUT, UH, I REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS IS A APPLICATION FOR A SUBDIVISION AND ALTHOUGH OUR ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS OF THE EXISTING, UH, BUILDING IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR FOR THE TOWN, THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR SUBDIVISION. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? SURE. MY NAME'S CHARLES VAN. I'M THE ACTUAL OWNER. I'M NOT THE PROJECT MANAGER. OH, SIR. UM, ACTUALLY I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER ALSO BECAUSE I'M DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY MYSELF ALSO, UH, IN REGARD TO THE ENTRANCE WAY FOR THE DRIVEWAY, WE ACTUALLY ARE GONNA KEEP THE STONE WALL INTACT AND SWING IT BACK AND THEN PUT TWO PILLARS, UH, SAME AS EXISTING THAT'S THERE. WE'RE GONNA, THE NEW PROPERTY THAT'S NEXT TO US THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED HAS TWO PERFECTLY STONE PILLARS THAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO GIVE US. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THE, SO, SO IT'LL BE ERROR PROP, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SAME STONE WORK WILL ACTUALLY GO IN AT THE EDGE OF THE NEW ENTRANCE WAY. OKAY. UH, SO IT, IF YOU SEE ON A PLAN, UH, WE SHOW A PROPOSED CURVE, UH, ENTRANCE WITH A STONE PILLAR SET BACK FROM THE STREET A LITTLE BIT. UM, [00:35:01] THOSE ARE THE NEW, UH, THAT'S THE, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THE QUESTION MORE IT TO THE PROPOSED SOMETHING, IT'S THE CHARACTER OF THE WHOLE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT RECOMMENDING ANYTHING, I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT I THINK THE QUESTION WAS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THIS LONG, VERY PIC PICTURESQUE DRIVEWAY WITH THE CIRCULAR, WITH, WITH THE CIRCLE IN THE FOUNTAIN IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN NEXT TO IT YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY GOING STRAIGHT INTO A GARAGE. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT AM I CORRECT? CORRECT. IS THAT PRETTY PER, YEAH. VERY GOOD. YEAH. ALRIGHT. YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A A, A, UH, A HOUSE ON THE, UH, PROPOSED HOUSE IN YET. SO THIS IS JUST A GENERIC ITEM. UH, THERE'S CERTAINLY THE PRO THE PROPERTY IS WIDE ENOUGH TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER CONFIGURATION, BUT I THINK IT'D BE UP TO, UH, UM, WHOEVER'S BUILDING A HOUSE. MM-HMM. . YEAH. BUT THE QUESTION IS THAT, WOULD YOU CONS, I MEAN, SINCE YOU'RE PROPOSING THE DRIVEWAY AND THERE IS A HYPOTHETICAL HOUSE, UH, BEEN PROPOSED, SO WOULD YOU NEED YEAH, BUT JUST A MINUTE PLEASE. BUT LET'S BE CLEAR. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A SUBDIVISION, WE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO PUT IN A GENERIC HOME SO WE COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, WHAT WILL BE THE, THE GENERAL EFFECTS, WHETHER OR NOT IF IT'S, UH, UH, IF THAT HOUSE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT A DECK OR A POOL ON IT SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE ZONING BOARD. OR WOULD THE HOUSE HAVE ENOUGH, UH, UH, A SIDE SETBACK, A FRONT SETBACK. SO TO PUT A GENERIC HOUSE. SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR A SUBDIVISION TO COME UP WITH THE FI FINISHED PRODUCT OF A HOME, BUT A GENERIC HOME TO SAY IF WE SUBDIVIDE THIS PROPERTY, YOU COULD PUT ON A ZONING COMPLIANT HOME ON THE PROPERTY. SO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS IS A SUBDIVISION AND WE ARE NOT APPROVING THAT CONFIGURATION OF THAT HOUSE AS IS. RIGHT. THIS IS A GENERIC HOME. BUT THE ONE THING I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE DRIVEWAY. UM, DO YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF HAMMER HEAD SO THAT THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND COME OUT, OUT FOR FRONT WOODS? UM, IT DOES SHOW ON THERE A HAMMERHEAD. UH, YOU DO HAVE A RESTRICTION OF A DRIVEWAY BEING A MAXIMUM OF 30 FEET WIDE. WE DO SHOW A DIMENSION THERE, 30 FEET WIDE. UH, AND THAT HAMMERHEAD IS ABOUT 20 FEET OFF OF THE HOUSE, WHICH GIVES YOU ENOUGH ROOM TO PULL OUT AND TO ACTUALLY USE THAT HAMMERHEAD. A LOT OF PEOPLE PUT THE HAMMERHEADS TOO CLOSE TO THE HOUSE AND YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY USE IT OR TOO CLOSE TO THE STREET. YOU ACTUALLY NEED ENOUGH SPACE TO DO IT'S PARKING IT. THAT'S A PROBLEM. YEAH. I I THINK THE WALL TO YOU MISSED THE POINT. THE QUESTION WAS NOT, UH, CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS A SPECIAL HOUSE THAT YOU'RE RESTORING, WHICH IS WONDERFUL, THAT YOU ARE KIND OF, UH, TAKING CARE OF, UH, THE, UH, VERY NICE HISTORICAL HOUSE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. BUT WAS, UH, INTENT OF THE THING WAS TO THEN TAKE, CREATE A, UH, NEXT HOUSE WITH A SIMILAR KIND OF, UH, UH, CONFIGURATION, AT LEAST TO ENTER INTO IT. YES, IT IS NOT REQUIRED, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT SINCE YOU ARE RESTORING THE RESTORING CALLS. GOT IT. AARON, DID YOU WANNA SAY THEM? I WAS ONLY GONNA SAY THAT, UM, I'VE SEEN THE BOARD IN THE PAST. THERE WAS A PROJECT IN EAST IRVINGTON THAT YOU MAY RECALL, I THINK, UH, FROM MCLAUGHLIN WAS THE CHAIR AT THE TIME, BUT THE HOUSE WASN'T BUILT AS PART OF THAT SUBDIVISION. BUT WHEN IT SOLD, UM, THEY CAME BACK WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS AND THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE HOUSE TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A BRIEF REVIEW. THERE WASN'T A PUBLIC HEARING OR ANYTHING, IT WAS A WORK SESSION. SO THE BOARD COULD SEE THE FINAL DESIGN AND LAYOUT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD COULD CONSIDER, UH, IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT TO THE CHASE. LET, LET, LET'S, LET'S THE APPLICANT ANSWER WHO WE, WE JUST START, LET, LET, LET THEM ANSWER WHAT THEY THINK. SO THEN BEFORE I SPEAK, THANK YOU. I, I THINK WE SHOULD CUT TO THE CHASE AND MOVE ON HERE. ALRIGHT. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA BUILD A HOUSE NEXT DOOR, SO WE CAN'T BE CONTROLLING IT. IT'S NOT SOME A SUBJECT FOR TONIGHT. IT'S A SUBJECT FOR, FOR A LITTER YOU CAN PUT IN THERE TO REQUEST THAT THEY COME BACK FOR AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. WE DID THAT TO OFFICE C CORPS ROAD, IF YOU REMEMBER. MM-HMM. AS WELL. WE DID THE SAME THING. RIGHT. THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S ALL I WOULD SAY. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THE APPLICANT CAN DO ABOUT IT. I THINK IT'S, UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, I [00:40:01] THINK IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON. YEAH. BUT LET'S, LET'S WAIT, LET THE OUR, HE WAS JUST READY TO ANSWER, SO LET'S JUST LISTEN THE ANSWER. IT TAKES A, MAYBE A ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF NOBODY INTERRUPTS HIM. SO LET'S FINISH HIS, UH, ANSWER I THINK WHEN HE GOT INTO HERE. SO TRUTHFULLY, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED WHAT WE'RE GONNA BUILD THERE. IF WE'RE GONNA BUILD EVEN, IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST A CONCEPT AT THIS POINT. I, WE'VE BUILT ANOTHER PLACES WE'VE HAD TO GO IN FRONT OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. SO I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU GUYS HAD THAT, BUT ELLIOT'S TELLING ME THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. SO WE DON'T HAVE A ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. OKAY. BUT THERE IS NO PLAN RIGHT NOW TRUTHFULLY ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THAT. OKAY. I THINK WE THANK YOU. WITH THAT SAID, I THINK UNLESS THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I INVITE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION TO MOVE FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND, AND YOUR, AND YOUR RESIDENCE REALLY IN PROXIMITY TO, UH, THE SITE. YES. MY NAME IS CRAIG ROSENTHAL. I AM A NEW YORK CITY RESIDENT, BUT I DID GROW UP IN THE AREA AND I KNOW THIS AREA INTIMATELY AND I HAVE STRONG TIES TO THE AREA. UM, I WAS THE ONE WHO WROTE THE LETTER, LET ME FOCUS ON TWO AREAS OF THAT LETTER. ONE WAS TO SUGGEST TO THE BOARD THAT THEY REQUEST A PETITIONER TO PUT A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HIGH POINT TERRACE, HIGH POINT TERRACE IS NEVER CONNECTED TO FORT HILL. 'CAUSE I BELIEVE THEN YOU'LL HAVE A SITUATION LIKE YOU HAVE AN OLD EDGEMONT WHERE YOU HAVE THE VARIOUS STREETS, WHICH SOME ARE ONE WAY, SOME ARE STOP SIGNS. IT JUST COULD PUT AN UNDUE TRAFFIC INFLUENCE, WHICH IS ALREADY GETTING MUCH HIGHER ON HIGH POINT ON THAT AREA. ALRIGHT. SO THAT'S ONE. UH, SOME OF THE HISTORICAL QUESTIONS I GUESS WERE ASKED THAT I PUT IN MY LETTER THERE WERE ASKED BY THE, UM, UH, THAT HISTORICAL COMMISSION YOU REFERENCED. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT LETTER. WITH ALL RESPECT TO THE BOARD, I REALIZE YOU'RE NOT A POLICY MAKING BOARD IN RELATION TO FORT HILL ROAD THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, THIS IS YEARS IN THE MAKING OF PROBLEMS. BUT, AND I REALIZE IT'S ONLY GONNA BE A FEW CARS THAT ARE GENERATED. 'CAUSE I SAW YOU SHAKING YOUR HEADS WHEN THE PETITIONER EXPLAINED THAT, THAT IT'S ONLY GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. BUT THE POINT FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY, AND I REALIZE THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE FOR THE PETITIONER, IS THE LOCATION OF THIS HOUSE AND ESPECIALLY THESE DRIVEWAYS. 'CAUSE NOW YOU HAVE THE INTERSECTION, OKAY, NOT THAT IT DIDN'T EXIST WITH WILLIAMS CLARK STRUCTURE, BUT THIS AREA HAS INCREASED GREATLY IN TRAFFIC. YOU HAVE PENNY LANE RIGHT THERE. AND FOR YEARS I'VE APPEARED BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD ASKING THEM IS THERE ANYTHING THEY COULD DO FOR THE REMEDIATION OF THE TRAFFIC? I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT AT LEAST A STUDY BE MADE BECAUSE OF THE REASONS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE INTERSECTION OF PENNY LANE THERE AND THAT ALSO, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW AREAS ON FORT HILL ROAD WITH A LOT OF LAND AND WITH A STRAIGHT PATH. IT JUST HAPPENS TO INTERSECT THE PETITIONER'S PROPERTY RIGHT ALONG THE WALL ACTUALLY. AND IF THE TOWN WAS EVER TO DO SOME TYPE OF REMEDIATION ON THAT AREA FOR, UH, SPEED REMEDIATION ON FORT HILL ROAD, THIS WOULD BE THE, UM, PORTION OF THE ROADWAY THAT WOULD NEED TO BE LOOKED AT. FOR EXAMPLE, FOR STOP SIGNS OR A TRAFFIC ISLAND, UH, A TRAFFIC CALMING METHODS. SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REQUEST THE PETITIONER TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY OR TO SEE WHAT THE PETITIONER WOULD AGREE WITH. LET'S FACE IT, IF THOSE SIDEWALKS WEREN'T IN FRONT OF IT, IF THE TOWN HADN'T PUT IN THE SIDEWALKS, I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD BE MOST IN YOUR RIGHT TO REQUEST A PETITIONER TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN. SO THIS IS ANOTHER ASPECT OF SAFETY FOR GRANTING THE PETITIONER'S PETITION TO DO THE SUBDIVISION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO, THANK GOOD. ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? IF NOT, THEN, UH, I WOULD ASK THE APPLICATION TO SPEAK TO THE COMMENTS THAT THE LAST GENTLEMAN JUST MADE. UM, AS FAR AS [00:45:01] THE EXTENDING THE ROAD, WE'RE NOT, UM, VOLUNTARILY DOING ANY BIG RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SCREEN, UH, THAT EXTENSION, THAT, THAT EXTENSION OF, UM, HIGH POINT PARIS IS ACTUALLY PRIVATELY OWNED LAND. IT'S NOT A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. UH, AND IT'S THE, AND THEY'RE BUILDING IT TO CREATE AN ACCESS TO THAT LAST VACANT MO BACK THERE. UM, SO THERE'S NO, AND IT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH, IF YOU CAN SEE IT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF OUR EXISTING HISTORICAL HOUSE. SO GOING, CONNECTING OUT TO, TO, UM, UH, THE ROAD WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING NOT HOW DO YOU NEGOTIATE GETTING IT THROUGH ALL THAT. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA VOLUNTARILY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AGREE TO A RESTRICTION. UM, I DON'T KNOW. THERE WERE SOME OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE, UM, THE TRAFFIC. TRAFFIC TRAFFIC. UM, AS YOU SEE, WE'RE ON A STRAIGHT LINE, UH, FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE MEET THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC OFFICER'S, UH, UM, UH, ADDITIONAL INTERSECTION SITE DISTANCE. GENERALLY A SITE DISTANCE IS ONLY REQUIRED TO BE ABOUT 200 OR 2 25, DEPENDING ON THE SPEED OF THE ROAD. I THINK THAT, UH, WE ARE UP TO LIKE THREE 30 IN ONE DIRECTION AND I DON'T HAVE THAT FINAL NUMBER. SEE WHAT YOU HAVE, UM, 3 35, 3 35, UM, IN ONE DIRECTION. I THINK IT'S TWO 90 AND THE OTHER ONE AS REQUIRED. UH, YEAH, TWO, UH, 2 2 90. UH, ANY OTHER DIRECTION BECAUSE OF WHICH SIDE YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU NEED TO, WHY YOU HAVE THAT. UM, SO I'M NOT, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES YOU CAN LEGALLY PUT IN THERE. UM, AND THE TOWN JUST REDID THOSE SIDEWALKS AND I DON'T THINK THE TOWN IS GONNA DIG UP THE SIDEWALKS FOR SOMETHING. SO, I MEAN, IF YOU REQUIRE IT THEN WE HAVE TO DO IT. BUT, UH, I, I HAVE A COMMENT IN TERMS OF THE SITE DISTANCE. WHEN YOU ARE IN THE PROPOSED NEW DRIVEWAY AND YOU LOOK TO YOUR RIGHT, THERE'S A LOT OF BUSHES AND, UH, WILD GROWTH IS THAT ON YOUR PROP, WHICH REDUCES YOUR LINE OF SIGHT? UM, UH, UM, THE OFFSETTING FACTOR IS THAT THERE'S QUITE A DISTANCE FROM THAT, UH, THAT PILLAR TO THE ROAD. SO YOU COULD EASE OUT A GOOD THREE OR FOUR FEET TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC WITHOUT BEING IN THE ROAD. SO, RIGHT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. BUT THE QUESTION IS, IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OR POSSIBLE DEVELOPER, OR EVEN BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU COULD DO CLEAN UP ALL THOSE WILD BUSHES THAT'S RIGHT AT THAT CORNER THAT DOES DECREASE YOUR LINE OF SIGHT? THAT'S, UH, LOOKING SOUTH, COMING OUT TO YOUR RIGHT? YES. THAT'S ALRIGHT. IT'S QUITE A BIT OF WHAT? JUST WILD. I MEAN, IF IT'S WITHIN OUR PROPERTY LINE OR IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY, WE'D BE HAPPY TO CLEAN IT OUT. UH, BEYOND THAT, UM, ANY GROWTH THAT'S IN THE TOWN RIGHT OF WAY, I THINK THE TOWN CAN, UM, REMOVE IF, UH, IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO REMOVE IT AND THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE WILL. BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING SOUTH, YOU'RE LOOKING ACTUALLY TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET BECAUSE THAT'S THE SIDE THAT THE ONCOMING CARS ARE ON. SO I WAS THERE TODAY AND, AND SAW THAT AS WELL, BUT I DIDN'T THINK IT OBSTRUCTED THE VIEW BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, NOT DOWN ALONG THE ROADWAY. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC OR, OR FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I MAKE A MOTION THAT, UM, WE CLOSE THIS PER, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. I KEEP THE RECORD OPEN. WHAT WOULD BE THAT DATE? JULY 14TH. DO JULY 14TH. SO MOVED SECOND. SO MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. ? YES. SO YOU WANNA, UH, VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION? ANOTHER MEETING, HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO BACK INTO WORK SESSION. SO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. AND UM, THE FIRST THING IN THE WORK SESSION IS ALL BUSINESS AND THAT'S, UH, UH, A REFERRAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD AT TB 2106, THAT'S CORRECT, CHAIRPERSON AND TIME AND TB 2106. THAT'S THE REGENERON PROJECT LOCATED AT 7 7 7 [00:50:02] OLD SAW MILL RIVER ROAD PO TERRYTOWN IN THE OB OFFICE BUILDING ZONING DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT SEEKS AN AMENDED SITE PLAN, UH, THAT WAS REFERRED TO THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL AS THE TOWN BOARD TREE REMOVAL PERMIT PLANNING BOARD, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND WET AND WATERCOURSE PERMIT INVOLVING THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO STORY 207,940 SQUARE FOOT RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BUILDING AND STRUCTURED PARKING FACILITY WITHIN AN EXISTING R AND D CAMPUS WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE DEMOLITION OF EXISTING PARKING AREAS AND OTHER SITE FEATURES. THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT WAS THE SUBJECT OF PRIOR AMENDED SITE PLAN, UH, IN CASE NUMBER TB 14 DASH ZERO FIVE AND RELATED APPROVALS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD IN PB 14 DASH 16 FOR DIFFERENTLY CONFIGURED BUILDING AND PARKING LOT, WHICH WAS NEVER CONSTRUCTED. THE APPLICANT NO LONGER SEEKS TO CONSTRUCT PER THOSE PRIOR APPROVALS BASED ON ITS UPDATED NEEDS FOR THE SITE. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE REMOVAL OF APPROXIMATELY 152 REGULATED TREES REQUIRING A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE TOWN BOARD AND IS PREPARED A PRELIMINARY LANDSCAPING PLAN, IDENTIFYING REPLACEMENT TREE SHRUBS AND GROUND COVERS. PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS AS PART OF ITS JUNE 16TH MEETING. STAFF IS PREPARED A DRAFT RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE TOWN BOARD AND AS WELL AS A DRAFT RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. UH, IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAVE THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO THE TOWN BOARD. UH, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE. UH, SO IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WE ARE ASKED, WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK OF THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE, UH, UH, DISCUSS AND TAKE A VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION. UH, OR IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INPUT THAT THE APPLICATION THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IN REGARDS TO, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE TOWN BOARD. YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR THE RECORD. MARK, WE RIGHT. PICK IT UP. PICK IT UP. IT'S USUALLY NOT A PROBLEM, BUT I GUESS IT IS THESE DAYS WITH THE MASKS, UH, MARK WEINGARTEN PARTNER IN THE LAW FIRM, , WE, GARTNER WISE AND WHITAKER, UH, ON BEHALF OF REGENERON KIN IS THE DEEDED OF LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY IN PERSON AND, UH, BEING BACK. UH, EVEN IF THE WEATHER COULD BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER WHEN WE, UH, COME IN HERE, THE RAIN AND WE HEAT, UH, I'M JOINED BY, UH, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF REAL ESTATE FACILITIES TO FROM REGENERON, WELL AS OUR PROJECT MANAGER, I AND THE HOST OF OUR OTHER CONSULTANTS WHO ARE HERE BASICALLY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TONIGHT, AS THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER POINTED OUT, I WON'T REPEAT THE, UH, CASE THAT WE ARE SEEKING WHAT'S BEFORE YOU ARE THE TOWN BOARD ACTION OF THE SITE PLAN, WHICH IS ON FOR REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU BACK TO THEM. SO WE CAN GO DO BUSINESS WITH RESPECT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, ET CETERA, WHICH IS BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD, UH, AS WELL AS A, UH, REQUEST FOR THE OPINION OF THIS BOARD ON THE VARIANCES THAT WE SEEK FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS HAVING TO DO WITH THE, UH, HAVING TO DO WITH BOTH THE F A R AND THE SETBACK ISSUE FOR THE BRIDGE. SO WE DID DO OUR PRESENTATION THE LAST TIME. THERE WAS NO SUBMISSION FROM THAT, THAT WAS NECESSARY, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE UNANSWERED. SO WE ARE HERE FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS, BUT WE HAVE NO FURTHER PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, ANYONE HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT, UH, ANYONE HAVE ANY SPEAK LOUDER? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD IN TERMS OF THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS STATUS BEFORE US? IF I, I HAVE A QUESTION, UM, REGARDING THE, UM, RECOMMENDATION. SURE. CHAIRMAN SIMON. UM, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS THAT, UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE THAT, UM, THAT THE, UM, TEMPORARY PARKING, THE DECOMMISSIONED AT THE END OF THE, UM, PERIOD OF TIME. I JUST WANNA KNOW WHO IN THE TOWN WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SEEING THAT THE TEMPORARY PARKING, UM, GOES BACK AND INSPECTS THAT CONDITIONS AFTERWARDS, UM, AT THE END OF THIS PROJECT. SO THAT'S A COLLECTION OF TOWN STAFF INCLUDING, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND THE TOWN'S BUREAU OF ENGINEERING. OKAY. SO CAN THAT, CAN WE SOMEHOW PUT A PERIOD OF TIME IN IN THAT AND THAT, UM, WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND WE KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN DONE WELL, [00:55:01] WE HAVE THE TIME. I'M BUT YOU YOU'RE SAYING ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITY? YEAH, ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITY TO THAT, YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT WE KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. I'M SURE REGENERON HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. 'CAUSE THEY WILL BE DECOMMISSIONING IT PROPERLY. WE HAVE NO OBJECTION. OBVIOUSLY, IF WE NEED AN EXTENSION OF SOME TIME, WE WOULD'VE TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR THAT. SO WE HAVE NO, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, UH, BUT WE JUST ADD TO THAT, UH, SOME RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE TOWN, THE ASSOCIATE, UH, TOWN, UH, DEPARTMENT THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKING SURE THAT THAT GROUND IS RETURNED TO THE PREVIOUS STATE. OKAY. THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. PUBLIC DISCUSSION. OKAY. ANY OTHER, YEAH, I HAVE NOTES ON THAT SO I CAN MAKE THAT. AND ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAD THAT IS NOT, IS NOT, UH, CAPTURED IN OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE DISCUSSIONS, UH, UH, UH, THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT ABOUT 5% OF THE PARKINSON'S, UH, SLOTS WOULD HAVE, UH, BATTERY CHARGES. I I THINK THE NUMBER WAS 5%. UH, THE, THE , THE CONCERN I HAVE THAT 5% IS, IS THAT'S FINE. BUT, UH, UH, IT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF, UH, AUTOMOBILE COMPANIES THAT SAY, AND THAT THEY WILL HAVE ELECTRIC CARS AND BY 2030 OR 2035 AND YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CHARGING STATIONS AROUND THAT, THERE'S A, THERE IS A DEFINITE SHORTAGE AND PROBABLY IN THE FUTURE YOU WOULD NEED EVEN MORE THAN 5%. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF MECHANISM THAT SAY THAT WE ARE STARTING OFF BY 5%. BUT THERE SHOULD BE A EASY MECHANISM TO INCREASE THAT, THAT YOU SHOULD THE DEMAND GROW, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO COME THROUGH A WHOLE LONG PROCESS TO INCREASE THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MINIMUM OF 5%, BUT A FLEXIBLE TYPE OF, OF, UM, SYSTEM THAT YOU COULD JUST COME IN AND WHETHER IT'S TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE, A SIMPLIFIED PROCESS OF INCREASING THAT AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY INDEFINITELY, EVERY STATISTIC THAT YOU LOOK AT TELL US THAT THERE ARE NOT SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF CHARGING STATIONS. MR. CHAIRMAN, FIRSTLY, AND, AND LOOKING BACK AT MY CLIENT, WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO WHAT YOU JUST STATED. I WILL TELL YOU THAT WATCHING THE TECHNOLOGY GROW OVER TIME AS WE HAVE IN OTHER AREAS, IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT THAT'S MORE THAN WE NEED BECAUSE THEY MAY BE CHANGING THE TYPE OF CHARGING STATION THAT COULD TAKE MORE CARS OR YOU WOULD NEED LESS OF THAT. SO WE JUST DON'T KNOW WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THE GROWTH NEEDS ARE. BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT REGENERON IS THE LEADING, UH, COMPANY WITH RESPECT TO SUSTAINABILITY AND IF THEIR EMPLOYEES HAVE THEIR NEED, HAVE NEEDS WITHIN THEIR GARAGE SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE ELECTRIC CARS, WE'RE MEET THAT WE ALWAYS DO WITH RESPECT TO THOSE PARTICULAR KINDS OF ISSUES. SO WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE BEING IN THIS, UH OH, OKAY. RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD. AND MAYBE BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE TOWN BOARD, WE MAY HAVE A FEW SPECIFICS WE CAN ADD WITH THEM WHEN WE TALK, UH, IN THE, IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. WELL, MR. SIMON AND, AND MR. WINEGARDNER, SOMETHING I SAID THE LAST MEETING, THE TOWN HAS TO LOOK AT CHARGING STATIONS AS A TOWN. SO ANY VISION YOU CAN HELP US WITH AS BEING ONE OF OUR, UH, LARGEST OR THE LARGEST NEIGHBOR I GUESS NOW, UM, THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WRITE A LAW ABOUT CHARGING STATIONS, BOTH FREE ONES FOR LIKE EMPLOYEES AND ALSO FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR-PROFIT ONES. SO ANY HELP ON THAT? ANY HELP ON, ON SOLAR, YOU KNOW, SOLAR PANELS, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE. WE LOVE THE INPUT FROM YOU GUYS. YEAH, I FELT THAT THE 5% WAS GENEROUS AND PROBABLY THE MOST GENEROUS OF ANY PARKING LOT IN TOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. I MEAN, I AGREE IT MAY TO GO UP, BUT I ALSO, UH, FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, COMMITTED YOURSELF TO A GOOD LEVEL YEAH. TO START OUT WITH FOR SURE. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING. I, I, I THINK WE WANNA MAKE IT HAPPEN, BUT WE CAN'T LEGISL IT. NO, BUT I THAT APPLICATION, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO POINT OUT TO [01:00:01] THE TOWN. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE ACTUAL NUMBER IS, BUT IT SHOULD BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH FOR THE APPLICANT AND THE TOWN TO ADJUST AS OPPOSED TO SAYING 5% IS THE NUMBER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT AS LONG AS WE JUST NEED A SYSTEM TO BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO ADJUST TO THE CHANGES THAT IT'S REQUIRED, IT COULD BE A MINIMUM OF 5% WITH AN ABILITY TO INCREASE WITHOUT HAVING TO NECESSARILY COME BACK FOR PERMISSION. IF WE DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY ACCEPTABLE TO US. YEAH. GREAT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THE PARTICULAR NO, THANK, THANK YOU WALTER. UH, WE SEE REGENERON AS BEING LEADERS IN THIS AREA FOR SURE. OKAY, SO WE WILL START OUT WITH THE FIRST DOCUMENT, WHICH IS, UH, 2106. IT JUST A LITTLE LOUDER PLEASE. THE FIRST DOCUMENT IS PB 2106. THIS IS, UH, FOR THE PARK AND STRUCTURE. UH, ACTUALLY THIS, NO, 1 0 6 IS FOR THE 7 7 7, RIGHT. 21. OH, BUILDING THE BUILDING. I'M SORRY. THE BUILDING. YEAH. OKAY. YOU CAN START WITH THAT. YEAH. WE START WITH 20, I ALREADY HAVE THIS UP . OKAY. UH, UM, SO THE WAY WE'VE LAID IT OUT IS THAT, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD CONSIDER ISSUING ITS RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD AS AMENDED. UH, IF ANYONE WANTS TO I MOVE SECOND, MOVE SECOND HEAR FROM, UH, CORRECT CHAIR. AND WOULD THAT BE FAVORABLE? YEAH. YEAH. WELL, LET'S, OKAY. UH, THE MOTION WAS MADE CORRECT WITH THE AMENDMENT, WHICH I JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE, UH, THAT 5% MINIMUM, RIGHT? WITH FLEXIBILITY TO CHANGE IN THE FUTURE. YOU, UH, UM, AND THAT'S WHERE, AND OVERSIGHT POSITIVE RECORD POSITIVE. WAIT, SO LEMME JUST CLARIFY THAT THIS IS THE SITE PLAN RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD? YES SIR. 'CAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TO THE Z B A. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOWN BOARD. OKAY. TOWN BOARD 20 21 0 6. 2106. AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY MONA OR, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. WE THANK YOU. YOU NEED TO VOTE WALTER. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE. AYE. UH, OPPOSED? NONE. SO CARRIE UNANIM, NOW, NOW WE TURN TO THE ZONING COURT RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. NOW THE ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDATION, I THINK THE KEY HERE IS THAT BECAUSE THE SITE IS, IS, IS A MULTIPLE OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UH, UH, PLOTS. THEN WE RUN INTO THE ISSUE OF, UH, OF HOW CLOSE YOU COULD, UH, BUILD TO THE PROPERTY LINE. BUT THIS IS ALL ON ONE CAMPUS. SO IT'S NOT A CASE WHERE YOU ARE UP AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE TO YOUR NEIGHBOR, YOU ARE YOUR OWN NEIGHBOR BECAUSE IT'S ALL WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE. SO I THINK THE ISSUE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT AND THEY'RE PROPOSED IN ZERO FEET ON, ON LOOKING AT IT, YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY SAY, SAY, WHY WOULD SOMEONE WANT A BILL RIGHT. ON THE PROPERTY LINE? BECAUSE THEY ARE THEIR OWN NEIGHBOR AND IT'S WITHIN THE CAMPUS. SO BASED UPON THAT, I THINK IT IS, IT JUSTIFIES A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD. I AGREE. AND I THINK ONE NOTE NEEDS TO BE ADDED HERE, WHICH IT, IT DIDN'T SEEM COMPLETELY CLEAR, WHICH IS IT HAS TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE IT'S CONNECTING ACROSS TO THE OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY. YEAH. IT, IT SAYS THAT IT'S GONNA, UH, CONNECT TO THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO DO IT. RIGHT. JUST, JUST FOR NOTE PURPOSES, IT'S A BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS TWO BUILDINGS TO BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS TWO BUILDINGS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK FROM ONE BUILDING TO THE OTHER. RIGHT. TO THE OTHER BUILDING. RIGHT. WITHOUT GOING OUTSIDE. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE'RE CROSSING THE PROPERTY. CORRECT. RIGHT. AND BECAUSE YOU, YOU'RE CROSSING TWO PIECE, TWO SEPARATE LOTS BECAUSE WE'RE ON, THAT'S, WE, WE ARE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY VIOLATING THE SETBACK ON BOTH PIECES OF THE PROPERTY ON ONE SIDE AND ON THE OTHER, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED TO HAVE VARIANCES FROM BOTH ON BOTH FOR CLARIFICATION, THE ANSWERS THOUGH, THERE ARE FOUR VARIANCES. THAT'S ONE OF THE VARIANCES CORRECT, WAS FOR THE BRIDGE. THERE'S ALSO ONE FOR THE F A R, UH, AND THERE'S ONE FOR BUILDING HEIGHT AND, UH, AND STORAGE. THAT'S THE OTHER DOCUMENT. NO, THAT'S, THAT'S THIS ONE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, BUT I'M, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I'M LOOKING AT THIS RECOMMENDATION TO DESIGN. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THE BRIDGE CONNECTS, YOU KNOW, TWO PARTS OF THE, YOU KNOW, SO I HAVE SOME MODIFIED LANGUAGE BASED [01:05:01] ON THE COMMENT. MAYBE, MAYBE WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE A MORE EXPLICIT AND PLANNING SAYING THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO DO IT. MICHAEL SUGGESTED LANGUAGE IS, AND THIS IS, UH, ON PAGE TWO, IT STATES WHERE, REGARDING THE BUILDING SETBACK AREA VARIANCE, THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH DOCUMENT? PAGE TWO OF THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD. YEAH. TB 2106. YEAH. UM, OKAY, I HAVE IT. THE SECOND LINE, UH, IT SAYS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THE LOOP ROAD PROPERTY TO SOUTH AND THEN ADD ACROSS AN INTERIOR PROPERTY LINE. SO THAT, DOES THAT CLARIFY IT? YEAH. I EVEN WOULD EVEN BE MORE EXPLICIT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING ON IT BASICALLY ON ITS OWN PROPERTY, CONNECTING TWO OF ITS OWN BUILDINGS. I MEAN, I THINK WHAT MARK SAID, THAT'S FINE. RIGHT. OKAY. WE'LL DO THAT. OKAY. READY TO VOTE ON THIS? YES. YOU READY? IS IT TIME TO VOTE? ALL FOUR, UH, VARIANCES. OKAY, WELL WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THE HEIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. DO WE WANNA DISCUSS THAT FIRST? IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT CHAIR? I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. THINK CHAIR PERSON. SIMON HAD MENTIONED STORIES. WE HAVE THE HEIGHT, WE HAVE THE, THE REAR SETBACK, AND WE HAVE THE F A R. ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IN ANY OF THESE FOUR. NO. SO THEN IF THERE'S NO WALTER, YES. WHAT DO WE SAY ABOUT THE F A R? 'CAUSE THERE IS A NOTE SAYS THAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, THE REFERENCE AT THE BOTTOM FROM THE, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR THE SMALLER BUILDING, THE 125,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. WE'RE NOW EXPANDING THE BUILDING TO 207,000 SQUARE FEET. SO IT'S, IT'S A NEW VARIANCE THAT WE WERE SEEKING FOR . AND THERE ARE FINDINGS IN THE RE IN THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATION WITH RESPECT TO, AND I DO WANT TO MENTION ON THE HEIGHT, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S TO, IT'S TO ALLOW US TO HAVE PHOTOVOLTAIC. IT'S THE SOLAR FARM ON TOP. IT'S THE SOLAR PANEL. SO IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL WANT TO HAVE ON THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THE HEIGHT. YES. IT'S THE SOLAR FARM ON TOP. IS THAT SPECIFIC ENOUGH DO YOU THINK? IN, IN THE RECOMMENDATION WHAT, UH, MR. GER JUST SAID, THE, IT SAYS IS ON PAGE TWO. I'M ON PAGE TWO. OKAY. THE, THE FIRST BULLET OF THE, OF THE, REGARDING THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND THE FIRST BULLET, THE PARKING STRUCTURE INCLUDES PHOTOVOLTAIC UNITS ADDING ADDITIONAL HEIGHT TO THE, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE VARIANCE. MAYBE SAY WHICH ADD ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. WELL, DOES THAT ACTUALLY CAUSE A VARIANCE? YES. YEAH. SO SHOULD SAY, WE SHOULD SAY THAT. LET'S BE EXACTLY, LET'S BE VERY SPECIFIC. BUT THAT'S FINE. THAT, THAT'S CAUSE YEAH, I AGREE. OKAY. WE READY NOW? OKAY. WELL IF THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO, SURE. OKAY. IF THERE'S NOT, THEN, THEN, UH, SO I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AS AMENDED. SECOND AS FOR ALL FOUR VARIANCES. YES. YES. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? AND YOU OKAY. OKAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO 21. NOW WE GO TO 2110. NOW ON THIS ONE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO TAKE TWO VOTES. ONE ON THE, THE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF AND THE SECOND ONE ON THE, THE VARIANCE. THE LANDSCAPING. OH, THE VARIANCE ON UH, ON, UH, THE, THIS IS TEMPORARY PARKING LOT THAT WE HAVE IN PARKING LOTS. YOU, EVERY 15, UH, SLOTS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LANDSCAPE AREA NUMBER ONE. THIS IS A TEMPORARY PARKING LOT. AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UH, UH, REGENERON IS SCRAMBLING FOR PARKING SPACE WHILE THEY START BUILDING. THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS PARKING LOT. THEY ARE SHUFFLING, UH, UH, EMPLOYEES FROM ONE END OF THE, THEIR SITE TO THE OTHER BECAUSE OF THE SHORTAGE OF PARKING LOTS. RIGHT. AND SO TO REQUIRE THAT THEY SET ASIDE A, UH, EVERY 15 FEET FOR LANDSCAPING IN A TEMPORARY PARKING LOT JUST DOESN'T, JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO, UH, UM, I SEE NO, ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHY THAT VARIANCE SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED. AND THAT'S A WAIVER. THAT'S [01:10:01] A WAIVER. I'M SAY, I'M JUST GIVING MY ARGUMENTS FOR THAT. AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE, UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THE, THE RECOMMENDATION OR WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. THAT AFTER FIVE YEARS, UH, UM, THEY, UH, UH, EITHER THEY WOULD HAVE TO RESTORE, UH, UH, THE PARKING LOT, THE ORIGINAL CONDITION, OR COME BACK AND GIVE A REASON WHY THEY CAN'T DO IT. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO VOTES THAT IS BEFORE US. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT IS WITH REFERENCE TO THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION ON THE AMENDED SITE PLAN. RIGHT. THE TOWN BOARD, THOSE TWO ASPECTS OF IT. RIGHT. UM, SO IF YOU ARE READY FOR A VOTE ON THAT WITH THE COMMENTS AND THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ALREADY MADE, RIGHT? YEAH. BUT, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE TWO SEPARATE VOTES, CORRECT? RIGHT. OKAY. SO THE, THE FIRST VOTE IS ON THE, THE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF, A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ITSELF BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? NONE. ABSTAIN. AND I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE Z B A. THE WAIVER. THE WAIVER TOO FAST. WAS IT MICHAEL THEN MONA? TOO FAST OR FAST? THE SECOND VOTE. B RECOMMENDATION REGARDING TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND. UH, THAT IS, UH, 15 WAS PART THE, IT'S A WAIVER. IT'S A WAIVER, NOT IT'S A WAIVER. THAT'S A WAIVER. MOVED SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, NOW I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THIS ONE. NOW. YES. THIS IS THE DB TWENTY ONE, TEN FIVE. FIVE FIVE SOLO ROPE ROAD PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATION TO Z B A. CORRECT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE LOOP BRIDGE 'CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF THE OTHER, OKAY. BECAUSE AS MR. WEW MENTIONED BEFORE, THE BRIDGE WILL BE CROSSING OVER A PROPERTY LINE. SO BOTH LOTS NEED TO COME DOWN TO ZERO. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THIS WAS ON ANOTHER SECTION OF THE PROPERTY, THE PARKING GARAGE DIFFERENT THAN THE, IT'S NOT. SO THE LOT THAT THE TEMPORARY, UM, PARKING AREA, IT'S THE SAME LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT'S ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY. YOU GOT IT. OKAY. I LOOKED AT THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? DOESN'T GET ANY EASIER THAN THAT. AND THE ONLY THING I'LL MENTION OF PROPERTY, THE ONLY THING I'LL MENTION IS FOR TEMPORARY PARKING AND STAGING. CORRECT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON FOR THE LANDSCAPE. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE EQUIPMENT ON THESE, UH, ON THESE PARCELS FOR CONSTRUCTION. OKAY? SO YOU HAVE AN OPTION OF, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON THE VARIANCE. YOU CAN MAKE POSITIVE, NEGATIVE, OR NEUTRAL. I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A PARCEL RECOMMENDATION ON VARIANCE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? WHO SECONDED? WE THANK YOU. IS THAT IT? DONE WELL, I GUESS, TOM, YOU SECONDED THAT THE, THE QUESTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN ANSWER THIS EVENING OR, OR IN FUTURE. WE NOW HAVE TO PROCEED WITH YOU WITH REGARD TO OUR, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR STEVE SMOKES, REDLAND, ET CETERA. WE ARE AT THE TOWN BOARD AND WE ARE GOING TO BE BEFORE THEM ON JULY 22ND, UH, ON JULY 27TH WITH A HOPE IF ALL GOES WELL AS MOVING TOWARDS THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION ON THIS PROJECT. I THINK THEIR MEETING IS IN THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST. IT MIGHT BE AUGUST 15TH. WE'VE BEEN ASKING OR, OR DOING THINGS IN A WAY WHERE YOU HAD TWO CHANCES TO SPEAK WITH US RATHER THAN JUST ONE AND BE ABLE TO HAVE TIME. SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO BE ON THE AUGUST FOUR MEETING TO START THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH YOU, KNOWING THAT YOU CAN'T VOTE UNTIL AFTER THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION IS ISSUED BY THE TOWN BOARD, WE WOULD PREFER THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE YOU ANOTHER CHANCE TO MEET WITH US AFTER. IN CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS YOU'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AND DO IT IN TIMEFRAME. SO IF IT IS POSSIBLE, WE WOULD MAKE THE REQUEST THAT THE HEARING TAKE PLACE, UH, COULD COMMENCE ON AUGUST THIS FOURTH. NOW DAVID DID THAT. THAT'S DOES NOT CAUSE ANY ILLEGAL ISSUE, DOES IT NOT? NO, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TAKING, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE. YOU'RE NOT TAKING, RIGHT. OKAY. WE COULD DO THAT E BUT WE WOULD, BUT WE WOULD KEEP THE PUBLIC HEALTH. YEAH, I WAS JUST, I'M SORRY. SO YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT IN MY OPINION AS WELL. UM, YOU JUST WOULDN'T CLOSE THAT EVENING. OKAY. AND YOU WOULDN'T RENDER ANY DECISION. OH, LET'S WAIT AN HOUR ON THIS RESTART. AND UH, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UH, IT'S EXPECTED THAT YOU WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL IN CONNECTION WITH THE WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMITS FOR EACH PROJECT IN HAND AHEAD OF THOSE WEDNESDAY. [01:15:01] NEXT MEETING. THEIR NEXT MEETING IS TOMORROW NIGHT. WE EXPECT WE WERE HOPING FOR THAT. SECOND. AGAIN. SECOND. OKAY. SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL PUT IT ON FOR THE AUGUST MEETING. THANK YOU. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. AND, UH, ACTUALLY, AND THAT, UH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, FOR, THAT'S FOR BOTH, UH, BOTH APPLICATIONS? YES. UH, STEEP SMALL TOWN WEAPONS. YEP. ACS MIX. AND THEN FOR THE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, THE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UH, WHAT NOW FOR PB 21, OH, THE NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA IS, UH, UH, ANOTHER, UH, REFERRAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD TB 2011. UH, PLANNING BOARD NUMBER 2028, THE HACKLEY SCHOOL, UH, AT THE DEBBIE TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT TO PUBLIC, PLEASE. THERE YOU GO. I WAS JUST WAITING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOODNIGHT. UH, I'LL KEEP YOU BRETT, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. BEFORE YOU START. UH, TRADITIONALLY, UH, WHEN THERE'S A PROJECT ADJACENT TO A MUNICIPALITY, WE ASK, UH, WE INVITE MEMBERS OF THAT MUNICIPALITY TO JOIN THE PLAN AND BOARD MEETING WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. OF COURSE THEY CANNOT VOTE. SO IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE REPRESENTING TERRYTOWN, UH, FEEL FREE, FEEL FREE TO COME UP AND SIT AT THE TABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. IF NOT, WE'LL PROCEED. ACTUALLY, I, IS THERE ANYONE HERE FOR THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN? THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID, DAVE. NO, I'M ASKING IF THERE IS ANYONE AS OPPOSED TO YOU INVITED THEM. MM-HMM. , IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT LOOKS LIKE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOTICED? OKAY. AND THEY WERE AWARE THAT NO ONE FROM THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN THAT I SHOWED UP UP. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YOU WANT ME TO GO? OKAY. SO AS CHAIRPERSON SIMON MENTIONED, NEXT CASE IS TB 20 DASH 11 AND PB 20 DASH 28 HACKLEY SCHOOL LOCATED AT 2 93 BENEDICT AVENUE, P O CHERRYTOWN, IN THE R 41 FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT, THE APPLICANT SEEKS AN AMENDED SITE PLAN, UH, WITH A TOWN BOARD APPROVAL AND A REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD, TOWN BOARD TREE REMOVAL PERMIT, AND A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION INVOLVING THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ART CENTER BUILDING WITH RELATED PARKING AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THE Z COV GYMNASIUM AND CONSTRUCT THE NEW ART CENTER BUILDING AND PARKING AREA WITHIN THOSE LOCATIONS. THE NEW ART CENTER BUILDING FALLS WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. WHILE THE PROPOSED PARKING AREAS WILL BE LOCATED IN THE VILLAGE OF TERRYTOWN, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE NET ADDITION OF 16 PARKING SPACES. IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE REMOVAL OF 34 REGULATED TREES WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND 35 TREES WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF TERRYTOWN, AND IS PREPARED A LANDSCAPING PLAN CALLING FOR THE PLANTING OF 70 TREES IN BOTH THE TOWN AND VILLAGE AS REPLACEMENT. THE PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS ITEM AT ITS JUNE 16TH MEETING. PROJECT TEAM IS PRESENT THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MARK WEINGARTEN, PARTNER OF THE LAW FIRM OF DEL VEO, AS KNOWN WEINGARTEN WISE . AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING, REPRESENTING LEY SCHOOL, WHO'S WELL KNOWN TO YOUR BOARD, UM, JOINED BY PETER MCANDREW, WHO YOU'LL HEAR FROM IN A SHORT TIME, WHO IS THE SCHOOL'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND CAMPUS PLANNING, ALONG WITH OUR ENGINEER MICHAEL YOUNG FROM MCKINLEY HORN, AND MY ASSOCIATE ANNIE KLEIN. UH, I'LL JUST BE BRIEF. I, I WILL MENTION, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU MENTIONED THE VILLAGE OF TAR TOWN. AS YOU KNOW, THIS APPLICATION, BECAUSE IT SPANS THE MUNICIPAL BORDERS, WE ARE SEEKING APPROVALS IN BOTH MUNICIPALITIES. UH, YOUR DEPUTY COMMISSIONER ACTUALLY DESCRIBED THE ONES THAT ARE HERE BEFORE [01:20:01] YOUR TOWN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL THAT'S ONGOING IN THE VILLAGE OF TAR TOWN OR WELL ASSOCIATED, UH, APPROVALS WITH THAT AS WELL. THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, HOWEVER, IS, UH, THERE'S ONE LEAD AGENCY FOR THE AGENCY, THE TOWN BOARD HERE IN GREENBERG. AND THAT PROCESS IS, UH, IS MOVING, IS IS, IS MOVING FORWARD. UH, MR CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT, WHAT DOES TARRYTOWN HAVE JURISDICTION OVER? WE, WE ARE, WE ARE SEEKING TO DEMOLISH THE Z OF GYMNASIUM AND TO BUILD THE PARKING LOT ON THE TARRYTOWN SIDE OF THE, UH, SOUTH OF THE MUNICIPAL BORDER. AND THEREFORE THEY HAVE SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF WHAT WE ARE DOING ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND JUST, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF COMPLICATIONS THAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU USE SOMETHING ON A PROPERTY LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH A CAMPUS. AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT'S HAPPENED, BUT THE STATE LAW DOES PROVIDE FOR ONE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW THAT'S BEING CONDUCTED BY THE TOWN. THE VILLAGE HAS BEEN SHARING ITS COMMENTS WITH THE TOWN. AND THE PROCESS IS GOING VERY WELL, FRANKLY. AND I KNOW THAT THE, UH, VILLAGE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE HERE AT THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT BACK TO THE VILLAGE, HE GAVE HIS REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD AS TO WHERE THINGS ARE GOING. SO THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY KEEPING AN EYE ON WHAT GOING ON HERE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THEM. SO WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST, UH, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ASKED, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO VISUAL IMPACT SECTIONS THAT YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT, ET CETERA. WE'VE PUT A STUDY TOGETHER AND, UH, EITHER WE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION WITH YOU, SO WE'LL DO THAT. SO I'M GONNA ASK PETER MCANDREW FOR THE SCHOOL DETECTIVE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. WELL, THE NEW ASPECT OF IT, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT EVERYTHING YOU DID LAST TIME, BUT FOR THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, THE GO INTO DETAIL ON THOSE PORTION. THANK YOU. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THOSE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO CAME TO VISIT. SO YOU COULD SEE, SEE THE CAMPUS LIVE. SO THIS IS, UM, SHOWING ZOFF, WHICH IS THE OLD GYM. I DON'T REALLY LIKE CALLING IT THE OLD GYM. SO IT'S ZOFF. AND THAT IS THE BUILDING THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED. UM, AND THAT IS THE GREENBURG TARRYTOWN LINE, THE RED LINE. UH, NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU. SO HERE, UM, YOU SEE THE NEW CENTER DEPICTED HERE ON THE, ALMOST ALL OF IT IS IN GREENBURG, AND THEN YOU SEE THE PARKING LOT AS WELL. AND THE MOST RECENT, UH, BUILDING THAT WE BUILT IS THE JOHNSON CENTER UP ON THE TOP RIGHT. AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, UH, PICKER FIELD, WHICH HAS LIGHTS ON IT, WHICH YOU APPROVED FAIRLY RECENTLY. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, THE NEW BUILDING, UH, ENCOMPASSES THE, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS THE DEMOLISHED TO BE DEMOLISHED BEFORE THE ARTS ARTS CENTER. NEXT SLIDE. WHICH WASN'T ESPECIALLY VISIBLE IN THAT FIRST SLIDE. YEAH, IT DIDN'T MAKE IT, IT'S ABOUT TO MAKE IT NOW THOUGH. ON THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU WANT ME TO ZOOM THESE IN PETER? UH, THAT ONE? YEP. OKAY. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST PAGE DOWN. IT'S A STRANGE, OKAY, SET. SO HERE IS THE, IS THE, SO YOU CAN SEE THE OLD PACK AND THE GEO AND THE GEODESIC DOME BEHIND IT, WHICH WAS A POOL. AND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEMOLISHED. SO THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER WILL COME DOWN, THE NEW BUILDING WILL BE BUILT, THE ZOFF WILL BE SWING SPACE. AND THEN WHEN THE NEW BUILDING IS COMPLETE, THE ZOFF WILL BE TAKEN OUT AND THAT PARKING LOT WILL BE BUILT. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS, EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND. JUST GONNA ASK YOU TO BRING THE MIC A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. SURE. THANK YOU DAVE. OKAY. UM, HERE YOU SEE, UM, THE NEW CENTER WITH ZOFF IN FRONT OF IT. YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU SEE, UH, THE NEW BUILDING WITH THE PARKING IN FRONT OF IT. AND WHAT I WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS YOU START TO GET A FEELING OF THE HILLSIDE TO THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING RIGHT THERE. THAT HILLSIDE RIGHT THERE HAS A LOT OF, UM, HEIGHT GOING DOWN TO THE BUILDING. AND THAT HEIGHT IS GOING TO RESTRICT THE VIEW OF THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS THE SIDE THAT HAS THE MOST GLASS AND, UH, AND LIGHT, THE, THAT FRONT PIECE THERE, THAT RIGHT THERE. THOSE ONES NOT THE ONE, NOT THE PIECE ON THE RIGHT, BUT THE PIECE ON THE LEFT, THOSE ARE CLASSROOMS. SO THOSE WILL BE TURNED OFF AT NIGHT. AND THEN THE ONE TO THE RIGHT IS A BLACK BOX THEATER. AND SO IT COULD HAVE NIGHT ACTIVITY, BUT IT WOULD BE CURTAINED OUT. SO [01:25:01] THERE'S LIKELY TO BE LITTLE LIGHT COMING FROM THE WEST AND THE LIGHT FROM THE SOUTH IS GONNA BE IMPACTED BY THE HILLSIDE. NEXT SLIDE. OH, I'M SORRY. BEFORE YOU GO. AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE LOWER SCHOOL, THE TOP AT ABOUT 1130. UH, I'LL KEEP GOING OVER RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THE, THE NEW LOWER SCHOOL THAT NOW IS REALLY THE LOWER SCHOOL. IT'S NOT SO NEW ANYMORE. AND THEN THE MAIN BUILDING IS OVER ON THE RIGHT. AND YOU CAN SEE THE, ALL OF THE HEIGHT OF THE EAST CRESCENT, UH, IS SNUGGLED IN TO THE, A COMMON WHERE THOSE TWO BUILDINGS SIT. NEXT SLIDE. I I JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING ABOUT THIS. 'CAUSE I HAD ASKED THE QUESTION LAST TIME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH LIGHT WOULD HE SPILL IN FROM THAT TOP LAYER THIS DIRECTION, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM COMING FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, WHICH YOUR PICTURE DID LAST TIME, YOU SAW THIS PICTURE WALL OF WINDOWS. BUT THIS IS HELPFUL BECAUSE ON THIS SIDE, THAT UPPER PORTION, IT'S A VERY NARROW BAND OF WINDOWS. SO IT'S CHANGED. YEAH. GAVE A DIFFERENT IMPRESSION. YEAH. SO HERE'S A SECTION AND WHAT I WOULD TAKE FROM THIS IS THAT THE, IS THAT THE, THE CURRENT GRADE AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING HERE. AND SO RIGHT, RIGHT WHERE THAT PERSON IS, RIGHT THERE IS THE EXISTING GRADE THAT'S THEY ARE NOW. AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD INTO THE HILLSIDE AND GO ALL THE WAY TO WHERE THE POOL WAS. AND BECAUSE IT WAS 10 FEET, SO THAT, THAT WING, THAT TOWER RIGHT THERE, THAT CRESCENT RIGHT THERE IS STARTING AT THE GRADE THAT THE LITTLE PERSON IS OVER ON THE LEFT. SO IT'S NESTLED INTO THE HILLSIDE. AND YOU CAN SORT OF SEE THAT FROM THE SECTION. CAN I JUST ADD, SO THE FOLKS THAT WERE OUT THERE WHEN WE WALKED, AND IF WE WERE AT WHERE THIS PERSON IS, YOU START TO CLIMB UP NO, CURRENTLY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO EXCAVATE DOWN INTO THAT AND NESTLE IT INTO THE FLOW. EXACTLY. THANK YOU. SO THIS, UH, THIS IS SORT OF A, I WOULD GO ONTO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. SO HERE WE CALL THIS THE TRIANGLE. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE COMING UP FROM BENEDICT AVENUE, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO GO TO THE RIGHT UP TO THE MAIN QUAD, OR YOU CAN TURN LEFT AND GO TO WHERE OUR NEW BUILDING'S GONNA BE. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SORT OF SEE HOW THE BUILDING IS NESTLED IN. NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS NOW A HEAD ON, AND AGAIN, THIS, THIS ONE WAS DESIGNED TO SHOW YOU THAT STAIRWELL, THAT STAIRCASE THAT AARON JUST DESCRIBED OVER ON THE RIGHT. AND IT'S, IT'S RIGHT IN NESTLED INTO THE HILLSIDE. THIS DOES PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING. AND THEN HERE IS AGAIN, SORT OF DESIGNED TO SHOW YOU HOW IT FITS IN WITH THE LOWER SCHOOL UP THERE AND THEN ALL THE WAY AROUND THE MAIN BUILDING. SO IT'S, IT'S NESTLED IN, IT'S NOT HIGHER THAN ANY OF THOSE BUILDINGS. AND THIS IS A SUNSET MOOD SHOT. YEAH, GO AHEAD. OKAY. OOPS, WE GOT THAT. SO THIS WAS, THESE NEXT SLIDES ARE DESIGNED TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE FROM THREE LOCATIONS. SO THE FIRST IS ON BENEDICT AVENUE. LET'S GO BACK, I WANNA SHOW THE NUMBERS HERE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT IS, UH, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? THREE FOOTBALL FIELDS. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, QUITE A DISTANCE. AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS, IS ON MIDLAND AVENUE. AND THEN NUMBER THREE IS DEPICTING THE VIEW FROM A HOME THAT CURRENTLY IS BASICALLY THE ONLY HOME THAT CAN SEE ZOFF. OKAY, GO AHEAD AARON. SO HERE IS NUMBER ONE, AND THIS IS ZOFF. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE NEW BUILDING. SO WE THINK IT'S FAR MORE ATTRACTIVE. SO BEFORE AND AFTER. BEFORE AND AFTER. YEAH. AND THAT'S FROM NUMBER ONE. AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS OVER ON MIDLAND AVENUE. AND THIS IS TAKEN FULLY FOLIAGE. AND I THINK THE NEXT ONE'S SILHOUETTES. I'M, YEAH, THE NEXT ONE, YOU'RE RIGHT, IS SILHOUETTES. YOU SEE HOW THAT BUILDING IS SILHOUETTED IN THERE, RIGHT UP, UP, UP, UP. RIGHT THERE TO THE LEFT, IT'S SILHOUETTE IN AND THE NEXT ONE WILL SHOW THE NEW, SO SHOWS ZOFF. SO IF THOSE TREES WEREN'T THERE OR THEY WEREN'T IN BLOOM, THEY, IF THEY WERE ALL DECIDUOUS, THAT'S WHAT ZOFF LOOKS LIKE. AND THE NEXT ONE IS WHAT THE NEW BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE. AND, AND AGAIN, AS I SAID THAT ON THIS SIDE, THERE'S IN THE DARK, WHEN IT'S DARK, THERE WOULD BE VERY LITTLE LIGHT AND THE NEW BUILDING'S FURTHER AWAY. RIGHT. AND ZOFF, IT'S, I [01:30:01] DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET THAT IS. YES. AND THEN HERE IS FROM THAT HOME THAT I DESCRIBED THAT CAN CURRENTLY SEE ZOFF. AND THE NEXT ONE IS WHAT THEY'LL SEE OF THE CENTER, SORT OF SIMILAR. UH, NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS SLIDE WE JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SUBMITTED IN DECEMBER, UM, THAT WAS DE DESIGNED, THAT WASN'T EVEN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, THAT WAS SORT OF SCHEMATIC DESIGN. AND WE HAVE HAD TO INCREASE THE AREAS OF DISTURBANCE, UH, SLIGHTLY BOTH ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. AND YOU'VE GOT THE COUNTS UP THERE AND NOT BECAUSE YOU PUSHED THE BUILDING BACK. UH, ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY I THINK IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. I THINK IT WAS JUST BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS NEEDED. YEAH. AND MIKE, I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. UH, IT WAS MORE JUST A REFINEMENT ON HOW THE INTERFACE WAS GONNA WORK BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE NATURAL SLOPE AND THE RIGHT, WE TOOK SOME MORE DETAILED CONTOURS AND THEN MATCHED UP AGAINST THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION AND IT CAUSE US TO HAVE TO SLOPE IT A LITTLE MORE TO GET THE RIGHT EFFECT. THANK YOU. SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IN CONNECTION WITH THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IN CONNECTION WITH THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION, THAT THE, THE FORMS ARE UPDATED. YEAH. WE'RE GONNA GIVE APPROPRIATELY UPDATED FORM BASED ON THIS. NOW WE GREAT. THANK YOU. SO WHEN WE NOTICE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION. SO I THINK THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. UH, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR VERY THOROUGHLY, UM, COVERING A NUMBER OF ASPECTS, IF, IF NOT ALL OUR IN FRONT OF ME THAT WE BROUGHT UP AND IN A WAY THAT WAS VERY TELEGRAPHIC, EASY TO UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. I, UM, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, RAISE A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, UM, SPEAKING, YOU SHOULD YEAH. BRING THAT CLOSER. THANK YOU. UM, MR. WEINGARTEN, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE, AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS ON ZOOM, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE VILLAGE ENGINEER. I CALLED MS. J THE NEXT DAY, REFLECTED IN OUR MINUTES. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT YOU BE AWARE THAT SURE. THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF THE COMMENTS AND, UH, ALL THOSE, BECAUSE THEY RAISE SOME CONCERNS. THE VILLAGE FROM TAR TOWN IS NOT HERE TONIGHT. I UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MEETINGS THAT, UH, HAVE BEEN DONE WITH THE VILLAGE, UH, PLANNING BOARD. WE HAD ASKED AT THAT MEETING, NOT OF YOU, BUT OF THE VILLAGE TO NOTIFY US. THEY HAVE NOT, I WOULD ASK THAT IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE VILLAGE THAT YOU SEND US, YOU KNOW, GIVE US A HEADS UP ON IT SO THAT WE CAN, UH, BE A PART OF THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL. A COUPLE, IT'S NOT, NOT ADDRESSED IT AT YOUR CLIENT AT ALL. COUPLE OF COMMENTS. NUMBER ONE, WE NOT ONLY WERE WE AWARE, WE APPRECIATE YOU TELLING US THAT NOT ONLY WERE WE AWARE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WENT ONLINE TO, TO REVIEW THEM, THEY WERE REVIEWED BY TARRYTOWN AT THEIR NEXT MEETING. THEY THINK THE, THE BILLING INSPECTOR, WHO WAS THE PERSON WHO WAS ONLINE, BROUGHT THESE COMMENTS UP TO US AND THEY'RE PART OF THEIR PROCESS AS TO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO DO IS WE'RE DOING THAT. AND AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SENDING LETTERS TO THE TOWN LAWYERS, AN INVOLVED AGENCY, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. SO NO, NOTHING IS GETTING LOST. AND WE ARE RESPONDING AND WE'RE OF COURSE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE PARENT THAT WE MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT YOU WERE COMMUNICATING BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE. BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. THE CHAIR WOULD'VE, UH, LIKE TO HAVE GONE TO THE MEETINGS POSSIBLE. I, I DID ATTEND THE, THE AFTER AFTER PLANNING BOARD MEETING, AND I THINK ACTUALLY THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE TONIGHT ANSWERS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS, WHICH WAS THE, UH, THE LIGHT, THE LIGHTING. UM, AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF SHOWING, SHOWING THAT HERE. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT THEY HAD HAD TO DO WITH THE WATER COMPANY, I THINK THE WATER CONNECTION. YES. AND WHAT, WHAT, SO GOING ON WITH THAT, AND BY THE WAY, I WOULD GIVE YOU THE DATE OF THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THERE IS NONE RIGHT NOW. AND THE REASON IS WE'RE KIND OF ON HOLD IN TARRYTOWN UNTIL THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCEEDS MORE FULLY AT THE TOWN BOARD LEVEL HERE, SO THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR AN ADJOURNMENT UNTIL IT'S TIME TO COME BACK TO THEM. SO THEY'VE GOT ALL THEIR INFORMATION FROM US AND THEY'RE GONNA BE MONITORING, UH, THE TOWN FACILITY. BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THE VILLAGE HAS MADE A REQUEST. WE HAVE RECEIVED OUR WATER FROM THE VILLAGE FOR AS LONG AS THE CAMPUS HAS BEEN THERE. UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF TECHNICAL REASONS THAT ARE WELL BEYOND THE ATTORNEY, BUT THE ENGINEERS COULD EXPLAIN THAT MIGHT VERY WELL MAKE IT FEASIBLE AND BETTER FOR ALL IF IT'S PROVIDED BY THE TOWN. IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT BY THE SCHOOL. UH, IT'S [01:35:01] SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS, YOU KNOW, BUT AS PART OF THIS, UH, NEW, UH, INVESTMENT AND, AND, AND BUILDING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO AND IMPROVEMENT FOR THE CAMPUS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SAID WE WERE WILLING TO DO IF IT'S FEASIBLE. SO AS PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, WE ARE VOLUNTARILY STUDYING, UH, THE ISSUE OF SWITCHING WATER FROM THE VILLAGE TO THE TOWN WITH ALL THE VARIOUS IMPACTS BEING STUDIED AND THAT IT'LL BE UP TO THE TOWN BOARD TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT. BUT, UH, THE SCHOOL HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO GO THROUGH THIS STUDY WITH THEM. SO DASHBOARD, WE'VE AGREED TO STUDY IT, IT'S IN THE PROCESS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANSWERS JUST YET AS TO HOW THAT'S GONNA TURN OUT. THANK YOU. UH, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH, PLEASE. IF YOU HAVE, UH, SINCE I MIC CLOSE? YEAH. OKAY. UH, SINCE I COULD NOT, UH, I TO LEAVE EARLY LAST WHEN YOU MADE A PRESENTATION, SO SPEAKING TO THEM. YEAH, BRING THE MIC. HOLD ON. SEE? YEAH. UM, SO MY QUESTION IS A, UH, RELATED TO HANDICAP PARKING ON YOUR SITE PLAN, AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT IT IS THE, I DON'T KNOW, UH, AARON, CAN YOU PUT UP THE PLAN? THE C THREE? YEAH. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. LAYOUT AND MATERIAL. I CAN EAT. I HAVE IT. YEAH, I'M JUST MENTIONING IT. THE BACK ONE ANDREW. THE BACK ONE. RIGHT. THANK YOU. C THREE C DASH THREE ZERO. WE GOT IT. YEAH. SO MY QUESTION IS, UH, THE LAST HANDICAP SPACE THAT YOU HAVE ON THAT PLAN, AND BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE HANDICAP IN A WHEELCHAIR GOES TO THE DOOR, HOW, HOW MUCH OF THE, THE DISTANCE THAT HE HAS TO GO BEFORE HE GET INTO THE, UH, VEGETABLE OF THE, OF THE BUILDING ITSELF? SO I JUST LOOKED AT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A, SOMETHING LIKE 600 FEET AND IF I CONSIDER SOMEBODY GOING IN A WHEELCHAIR CROSSING TO, UH, ABOUT ABOUT 600 FEET OF THE RAMP AND THEN TWO MOVING ROADWAY, UH, THE, THE ACTIVE ROADWAYS , UH, I THINK, UH, IT'S, I MEAN IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN WHY YOU COME UP TO THAT SOLUTION. I LOOKED AT IT, BUT WAS IN TARRYTOWN AND I SAID, OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, NO, OF COURSE WE A QUESTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENT, UH, DISTANCE FROM THOSE SPACES AND THEN YOU HAVE THE RAMPS THAT RUN UP. UM, BUT TO HELP MITIGATE THAT, WE DID PROVIDE THE DROP OFF, WHICH ALLOWS PEOPLE TO JUST BE PLACED RIGHT ON THE CURB, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARKING OF ANY KIND DIRECTLY IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT SOME HANDICAPPED PEOPLE ACTUALLY DRIVE UNDERSTOOD. SO THEY CAN'T DROP THEMSELVES OFF AT THE CURB. EXCUSE. YEAH. WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN IMPROVE ON IT. I THINK YOU NEED TO. YEAH. I, I THINK THAT'S, UH, THAT'S DEF DEFINITELY NEEDS IMPROVEMENT EVEN THOUGH, EVEN THOUGH I THINK, UH, MONA SUGGESTED THAT IT'S IN TARRYTOWN, BUT I THINK WE LOOK AT IT AS THE WHOLE PLAN. NO, NO, WE TOTALLY AGREE AND COMMENT NOTED. AND WE'LL LOOK, IF THERE'S AN ABILITY TO GET SOMETHING CLOSER TO THE, UH, ENTRANCE, THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE A VALET FOR HANDICAP . HERE'S FOR EVENTS. BUT I, I THINK THAT DOESN'T MEET A D A. YES. YOU HAVE TO MEET A D A YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE, THE PERSON HAS TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE VERY WELL. I I THINK IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT IF YOU JUST MOVE THE, UH, MOVE THE HANDICAP PARKING IN THE FRONT AND THEN PUSH THE ROADWAY TO THE ON STREET. WE'RE, WE'RE GOING, WE'RE ABSOLUTE YEAH, PLEASE COMMENT NOTED. AND WE WILL ABSOLUTELY LOOK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, I THINK OUR COMMENT IS THAT THE BUILDING LOOKS NICE. I THINK THE VERY WELL, UH, DESIGNED AND UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S A KIND OF GOOD IMPROVEMENTS TO TO, TO THE OVERALL CAMPUS. SO YEAH, I CONGRATULATE, UH, AND I THINK THE ARCHITECTS YOU HAVE GOT [01:40:01] IS A WORLD CLASS ARCHITECT. SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION. UM, IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THERE'S SORT OF A WHITE OVAL. IT LOOKS LIKE THE TRAFFIC GOES AROUND IT. WHAT'S THAT? IT'S A, YOU'RE TALKING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. OH, BIO RETENTION BASIN. YEAH. WE HAVE A BIO RETENTION BASIN IN THERE NOW, WHICH IS A, A, A WATER FEATURE, WHICH IS PART OF THE LEAD, WHICH WE'RE, UH, LOOKING FOR, FOR THIS BUILDING. UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT AS FAR AS MOVING THE HANDICAPS. BUT WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO, I WAS GONNA SAY IT LOOKED LIKE MAYBE YOU COULD PUT HANDICAP PARKING THERE, BUT ALL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET AN WE'LL LOOK AT IT, BUT WE BALANCE IT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE FEATURES IN THERE. UH, UH, ONE THING I THINK THE, THE, UH, I ASKED YOU TO LOOK AT, IT'S NOT IN, UH, TARRYTOWN. IT'S NOT IN GREENBERG, IT'S ACTUALLY IN TARRYTOWN. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE SIDEWALK THAT FROM ONE, UH, FROM ONE NINE, UH, ONE 19, FROM THE ENTRANCE DOWN TO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CASTLE, THERE IS A SIDEWALK. OKAY? NOW, IF YOU, ONE WAS TO ATTEMPT TO BUILD A SIDEWALK, CONTINUE THAT SIDEWALK, IT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT'S A STEEP SLOPE. YOU HAVE TO PUT WALLS THERE. AND SO THE CANOE, THE SIDEWALK ON THAT SIDE WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE. HOWEVER, YOU HAVE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT RIGHT THERE AT THE CASTLE. SO IF SOMEONE IS WALKING UP, THEY COULD CROSS OVER AND ON YOUR SIDE, IT'S A ABSOLUTE STRAIGHT FLAT AREA THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY EXCAVATION, ANY WELD BUILDING. SO I JUST ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT, UH, EXTENDING THE SIDEWALK ON YOUR SIDE THAT'S IN TARRYTOWN, BUT IT WOULD JUST WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT PEOPLE COULD WALK FROM ONE 19 ALL THE WAY PROBABLY DOWN TO BROADWAY. SO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, COMMENT NOTED, UH, REASONABLE POSITION. WE DID SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS WITH TERRYTOWN AS WE GOING THROUGH OUR APPROVAL PROCESS WITH THEM AS TO WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE GONNA BE FOR US WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS IN THEIR, IN THEIR, UH, . BUT YES, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WALTER HAD IN THE LAST PROJECTS THAT YOU WERE DOING, UH, CAN YOU CONSIDER SOME OF THE CHARGING PARKING AREAS WITH THE CHARGING, UH, FOR YES, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO, THAT'S OKAY. UH, BEING NO OTHER COMMENTS AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, WE WILL PUT THIS ON PUBLIC HEARING ON, UM, YES. I, I, I THINK, I THINK, UH, AS A MATTER OF PROCEDURE, I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD CONSIDER IF IT WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP. AND THEN WE CAN SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE DATES SET UP WITH THE TOWN BOARD IN ORDER TO CONSIDER WHEN TO PUT THIS ON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT DOWN THE ROAD. YEAH, THERE'S STILL ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, SECRET ASPECTS AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE TOWN VOICE TIMEFRAME IS ON THAT, JUST AS WE, JUST AS WE DID WITH THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN RIGHT NOW. WE APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR, YOUR ATTEMPT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE A BIT ON HOLD AT THIS BOARD UNTIL THE TOWN MAKES MORE PROGRESS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW TOWARDS WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION, WHICH WILL ALLOW EVERYBODY TO TAKE. OKAY. FINE. SO WE, BUT WE APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT. BUT ON THIS ONE, I THINK WE HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE TOWN BOARD AS FAR AS, UH, THEIR INTENTIONS OF MOVING THIS FORWARD. OKAY. THAT BEING SAID IS, UH, DO UM, THE BOARD FAIL THAT WE HAVE GIVEN STAFF ENOUGH, UH, INFORMATION SO THEY COULD DRAFT ABSOLUTELY. OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. SO WITH THAT SAID, THEN, UH, I ASK THAT, UH, STAFF, STAFF, UH, DRAFT UP A RECOMMENDATION SO WE COULD REVIEW AT OUR NEXT MEETING. VERY GOOD. THAT'S AUGUST 4TH. UH, JULY 21ST. OH, YOU HAVE ONE ON THE 21ST. GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE. OKAY, [01:45:02] ON A LIST, WELL JUST AGAIN, LOUDER. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND, AND I'LL MAKE THE INTRODUCTION. OKAY. UH, I WOULD, OKAY. THE NEW BUSINESS IS, UH, PB 21 DASH 12, UH, 85 AND 89 HILLCREST ROAD. I ASKED DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SMITH TO INTRODUCE THE, UH, THE APPLICATION. YES. SO AS CHAIRPERSON, SIMON INDICATED, THE NEXT AND NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PB 21 DASH 11 LICHEN LOCATED AT 85 AND 89 HILLCREST ROAD, PO HARTSDALE IN THE R 21 FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL FOR A PROPOSAL CONSISTING OF THE RE SUBDIVISION OF TWO EXISTING LOTS INTO ONE LOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSOLIDATING THE PARCELS TAX PARCEL. 8.250 DASH 180 2 DASH 16 KNOWN AS 89 HILLCREST ROAD CONTAINS A ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 63,193 SQUARE FEET. TAX PARCEL, 8.2 50 DASH 180 2 DASH 17 KNOWN AS 85 HILLCREST ROAD CONTAINS MINOR IMPROVEMENTS IN LANDSCAPING SUCH AS A PERGOLA AND A FOUNTAIN, AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 25,997 SQUARE FEET. NO SITE WORK IS PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS STEVEN ELLI FROM BENA RUSO, COLONEL SCHWARTZ AND COLONEL ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. UM, SO AS THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, UM, OUTLINE THERE, THERE AS THE FACTUAL MATTER THERE, THERE ISN'T REALLY MUCH MORE, UH, FOR ME TO ADD TO THE APPLICATION. UH, MY CLIENTS ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROPERTY. UM, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING ANY CONSTRUCTION WORK. THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY ALTERATIONS, UH, QUITE SIMPLY. UM, THEY LIVE THERE, IT'S THEIR, THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE, THEY'RE THERE FULL-TIME AND THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE, UM, TWO TAX BILLS, TWO WATER BILLS, TWO OF EVERYTHING. AND JUST AS A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, CONVENIENCE JUST CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE LOT AND KIND OF CLEAN UP THE PAPERWORK, IF YOU WILL. AND, UH, THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE TO IT THAN THAT, TO BE HONEST. AND, AND, UH, ON THE PLOT THAT'S SHOWN, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, THE HATCHED LINE THAT I'M RUNNING THE CURSOR OVER IS THE INTERIOR LINE THAT SEPARATES THE TWO TAX PARCELS. SO THIS LINE WOULD BE ELIMINATED AS PART OF THE RE SUBDIVISION SO THAT THIS WOULD BECOME ALL ONE LOT ONE TAX LOT ONE PARCEL. WERE THEY, WERE THEY TAX LOTS OR WERE THEY ACTUALLY DIVIDED THAT WAY INTO THE COUNTY? TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, RIGHT? WE HAVE THEM AS TWO SEPARATE TAX PARCELS. I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK TO THE SUBDIVISION PLOT. YEAH, WELL THEY LEGALLY, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW, IN WESTCHESTER IN ABOUT 1915, ALL OF THIS AREA WAS SUBDIVIDED INTO SMALL TAX PLOTS. SO A LOT OF PLACES IN GREENBURG, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE TAX LOTS ON THE SAME PROPERTY. IT DOESN'T, THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY THE SAME THING AS THE SUBDIVISION. YEAH. SO YOU HAVE TO BE ON THE SUBDIVISION MAP TO, IF IT'S SUBDIVIDED. SO MY QUESTION IS, WAS THIS PROPERTY EVER LEGALLY SUBDIVIDED? IS IT JUST TWO SEPARATE TAX? UNDERSTOOD. I I CAN CONFIRM THAT. I KNOW THEY TOOK TITLE IN 2012, UM, UNDER ONE DEEDED, UH, TWO SEPARATE PARCELS UNDER ONE DEED WITH SEPARATE LOT NUMBERS. BUT I CAN CHECK WITH THE COUNTY, SEE THAT THAT'S NOT TWO SEPARATE TAX. THAT'S, THAT'S TWO LOT TAX LOT. SO LET'S LOOK, WHY DON'T WE CHECK TO SEE IF THERE IS A SEPARATE SUBDIVISION THAT PROPERTY, BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT, RIGHT? UH, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO BE HERE. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. BUT CHECK WHAT THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS FOR THEM TO WELL CHECK WITH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND UH, SEE IF THEY, IF EVERYTHING CAN BE COMBINED INTO ONE BILL. I MEAN, I, I WOULD TELL YOU MY, MY PROPERTY HAS THREE SEPARATE TAX LOTS. YEAH, EXACTLY. BUT I GET ONE WATER BILL, ONE PROPERTY TAX BILL, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THEY, THEY GET TWO, TWO BILLS OF EVERYTHING CURRENTLY. ALRIGHT. I DON'T KNOW. WELL, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN, IF THERE'S A WAY OF SHORT CUTTING IT MAY, MAY, MAYBE THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE [01:50:01] PROBLEM. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN RESOLVE THAT INFORMALLY. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COUNTY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COUNTY SUBDIVISION MAP. RIGHT. THAT THE ONLY ME THAT TELLS YOU WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ACTUALLY A SUBDIVISION MAP OTHERWISE THEN. SO I THINK MOVING FORWARD, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE RESOLVED, DETERMINED. BUT IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS A SUBDIVISION, THEN NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR PUBLIC HEARING. RIGHT. SO WE, THERE'S NO POINT IN SCHEDULING THAT NOW, BUT UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT IT REALLY IS SUBDIVIDED, THEN YOU CAN UH, DETERMINE, UH, THEN WE CAN DO NOTICING AND AARON SAY SOMETHING. MY ONLY THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT I THINK BETWEEN BOTH MY OFFICE AND THE, AND THE APPLICANT AND ITS REPRESENTATIVE, THAT WE COULD PROBABLY FIND THAT OUT TOMORROW, IF NOT FRIDAY. MY THOUGHT WOULD BE TO SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN, UH, FOR THE NEXT MEETING, IF WE FIND OUT THAT IT'S NO LONGER NEEDED, WE CAN GET PROOF TO THAT EFFECT AND A LETTER OF WITHDRAWAL FROM THE APPLICANT. AND I CAN ANNOUNCE THAT TO THE BOARD BY EMAIL. YEAH. BUT IF IT DOES NEED THE SUBDIVISION, THEN WE CAN HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. WE CAN GET THE NOTICING DONE CORRECT BY FRIDAY, WHICH WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE DONE. AND IT'S NOT, SHOULD PUT IT OFF TO ANOTHER TAKE THIS. CORRECT. YEAH. SO IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL THE, UH, COPY. YEAH. WE CAN FIND OUT THROUGH THE COUNTY WEBSITE. YEAH. YEAH. DAVID, WOULDN'T THAT BE TWO SEPARATE DEEDS IF IT WAS TWO SEPARATE? YEAH, NOT NECESSARILY. YEAH, IT'S, LET'S DO, LET'S SCHEDULE FOR PUBLIC ERROR, DO AN INVESTIGATION AND IF IT'S, AND IF IT'S NOT REQUIRED FOR PUBLIC ERROR AND AS AARON SAID, SAID, UM, WE, THE APPLICANT COULD WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION AND WE WILL JUST, UH, TAKE IT OFF OUR AGENDA. I, I HAVE ONE QUESTION, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHY THE FRONTAGE PROPERTY LINE, YOU KNOW, VEERS OFF FROM THE ROAD THE WAY IT DOES? GENERALLY, YOU SEE THE PROPERTY LINE KIND OF HUGS THE ROAD AND IN THIS CASE IT KIND OF ARCS AWAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS. I I CAN, WHAT I, I HAVE NO, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY. I CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO MY CLIENTS ABOUT IT, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE AS TO WHY THERE IS NO BEARING ON THIS AT ALL. I JUST CURIOUS THE TOWN RIGHT WAY OVER THERE FOR SOME REASON, SOMEBODY MAY DRINKING. THAT'S IT. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UH, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE TO SCHEDULE THE NO, NO, NOT AT ALL. SO WE'LL BE IN TOUCH TOMORROW. OKAY. SO, WE'LL THANK YOU, UH, EVERYONE FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS. WE'LL LOOK INTO IT FURTHER AND THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AND WE'LL PROCEED AS APPROPRIATE. OKAY? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. NO, NO, NO PROBLEM. IT, IT'S GOOD TO BE OUTSIDE AND IN PERSON. IF I KNOW, IF I HAD KNOWN IT WAS THIS EASY, I WOULD'VE PUT YOU ON FIRST AND GET YOU IN AND OUT. THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS, WE WILL, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO FOR THIS HOUR, WALTER? WE GO, WELL, I, I, I WOULD, I WANT, UH, UH, I WANT THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER TO GRAVEL AND SAY WHAT A WONDERFUL JOB I, UH, DID. WE START, WE ENDED EARLY BECAUSE WHEN WE END LATE, HE GIVES ME A HARD TIME. SO. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.