* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WE ARE ON. [00:00:02] WELL, GOOD EVENING. [ FINAL TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD GREENBURGH TOWN HALL AGENDA WEDNESDAY, August 4, 2021 – 7:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ] GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 4TH, UH, PLANNING BOARD MEETING. UH, I THANK EVERYONE WHO'S HERE TO, UH, FOR WEARING THE MASKS. AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, THAT IS A TOWN POLICY THAT YOU MUST WEAR YOUR MASK DURING THE, UH, THESE MEETINGS AT TOWN HALL. SO I THANK YOU FOR HEARING SET OUR POLICY. UH, THE FIRST THING WE'LL CALL, HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE. SURE. MR. GOLDEN. HERE. MR. SIMON. HERE. MR. SCHWARTZ. HERE. MR. DESAI. HERE. I'LL NOTE THAT BOARD MEMBERS, MR. HAY AND MR. SNAGS ARE NOT PRESENT. AND WE DO HAVE MS. FREYTAG ON THE PHONE PARTICIPATING REMOTELY, BUT SHE WILL NOT BE A VOTING MEMBER THIS EVENING. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHY CAN'T SHE VOTE EVEN THOUGH SHE'S NOT HERE? BECAUSE NEW YORK STATE LAW, I MEAN NEW YORK STATE LAW PROHIBITS IT. THEY REQUIRE TELECONFERENCING, WHICH INVOLVES VIDEO CONFERENCING. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT THERE WAS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT ALLOWED US DURING THE PANDEMIC. WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT OUR POLITICIANS, UM, ENACT THE SITU, ENACT IT SO THAT SHE CAN APPEAR. WE WERE HOPING TO TELECONFERENCE HER, BUT WE HAD TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY WE NOTIFIED. UH, WE HAD ACTUALLY NOTICED, UH, THAT SHE WAS GONNA APPEAR BY TELECONFERENCE, BUT, UH, THERE WAS A TECHNICAL ISSUE ON, UH, ON THE SIDE OF THE TOWN THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO IT. AND SO SHE WANTS TO PARTICIPATE AND SHE CAN PARTICIPATE, BUT SHE CANNOT VOTE. SO LEMME GET THIS CLEAR. IF, IF SHE WERE ABLE TO TELECONFERENCE, SHE CANNOT BE ABLE TO VOTE. VIDEO CONFERENCE, I MEAN, VIDEO CONFERENCE. YES, OF COURSE SHE CAN. OKAY. SO THIS IS TOTALLY IDIOTIC. I'D LIKE THAT FOR THE RECORD. WELL, SHE'S NOT TAKING IT DOWN NOW WHEN WE DO THE I UNDERSTAND PUBLIC HEARING. SHE CAN, I JUST DID THAT FOR A FACT. OKAY. BUT WE CAN PUT IT IN THE, IN THE NEXT MINUTES. I I WE HAVE NO OPTION AND WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY IT. I GOT IT. I JUST WANT THAT UNDERSTAND. OKAY. I AM 100% WITH YOU, MR. GOIN ON THIS. YEAH. OKAY. I AGREE TO KNOW. I DON'T HAVE ANY PAPERS. OKAY. EVERYTHING. UM, UH, THE NEXT THING IS THE MINUTES. I HOPE EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES. IN FACT, I'M QUITE SURE YOU DID. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN? NO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES. DO WE HAVE OR SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ELLS? NONE. SO, UM, ABSTENTION? NONE. SO PERMIT ACCEPTED AS, UH, RECORDED. UM, NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR A REQUEST FOR A 90 DAY EXTENSION FOR A, UH, FINAL, UH, SUBDIVISION APPROVAL. UH, TWO THINGS. UH, THE FIRST IS THAT, AGAIN, UH, THE PROBLEM, UH, WHY A SECOND REQUEST IS, UH, IS BEFORE YOU IS, IS THE, THE PAPERWORK IS STUCK IN THE WESTCHESTER DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. AND TRADITIONALLY, WHEN THAT IS THE CASE, WE AUTOMATICALLY EXTEND, UH, UH, THE APPLICATION FOR ANOTHER 90 DAYS. SO MOVED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THE PRELIMINARY SO THAT WE CAN FILE THE FINAL THANK YOU. OKAY. THE FAM AYE. ALRIGHT. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO INDICATE THAT I KNOW AT ONE POINT WE WERE KEEPING A RECORD OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND READ IT BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD AND, UH, LIMITATION OF A 90 DAY EXTENSION FOR, FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, WE FELT IT WAS TOO SHORT AND IT SHOULD BE 180 DAYS. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU PUT THAT ON THAT LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO CIRCLE BACK AND BRING THAT TO THE TOWN BOARD'S ATTENTION. CERTAINLY DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. HEY, GARRETT. I'M SORRY, AARON, HAS THE DOWN BOARD ACCEPTED ANY OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE LAST YEAR? UH, YEAH, I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, YEAH. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE. YEAH. BESIDES THAT, WHAT, I WILL REVIEW THAT AND REPORT BACK TO YOU. I'D APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I, I GET THE SENSE THEY DON'T LISTEN TO US, [00:05:01] BUT, UH, PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. THE, THE, LET ME, I CAN, I CAN INDICATE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD'S ISSUED A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TOWN BOARD, SOME WITH RESPECT TO THE CODE, BUT OTHERS WITH RESPECT TO PROJECTS AND THE TOWN BOARD HAS TAKEN THOSE INTO ACCOUNT. I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CODE. OKAY. I WILL REVIEW THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU. ALRIGHT. DON'T KNOCK YOURSELF OUT, I MEAN, APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. NO, I THINK THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART IS TO LOOK AT THAT LIST SO WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON IT. SO IT, IT'S A TWO-WAY OBLIGATION. WE NOT ONLY BRING IT TO THE TOWN BOARD OF ATTENTION, THEN WE HAVE TO DOUBLE THAT AND MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW UP ON IT. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. OKAY. UH, THE, UH, THE NEXT THING ON THE, UH, AS PART, THE NEXT THING IS CORRESPONDENCE. UH, SO YOU HAVE, UH, THE FIRST THING ON CORRESPONDENCE IS A MINOR WETLANDS APPLICATION. AND WE ARE, UH, HANDLING THIS ON THE CORRESPONDENCE. AND I'LL HAVE, UH, AARON SMITH GO THROUGH THE REASON WHY IT IS BEING PRESENTED ON THE CORRESPONDENCE RATHER THAN AS, UH, AGENDA ITEM. YES. THANK YOU, CHAIR PRESIDENT SIMON. SO THE NEXT CASE, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS CASE NUMBER PB 20 DASH 13. IT'S A PROJECT LOCATED AT 20 CAMELOT COURT, WHICH IS IN THE VAL MAR DEVELOPMENT DOWN THE STREET OR UP THE STREET, I SHOULD SAY. UM, IT'S A MINOR PROJECT, WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT APPLICATION INVOLVING THE PROPOSED REMOVAL OF AN EXISTING APPROXIMATELY 282 SQUARE FOOT IMPERVIOUS CONCRETE PATIO, UH, AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN APPROXIMATELY 494 SQUARE FOOT PERMEABLE PAVER PATIO IN THE SAME GENERAL LOCATION OF THE EXISTING PATIO. THE WATER COURSE BUFFER ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 3,500 SQUARE FEET, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 494 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY TWO AND A HALF CUBIC YARDS OF EXCAVATION AND APPROXIMATELY FOUR CUBIC YARDS OF IMPORTED FILL IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT. THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 6,556 SQUARE FEET AND IS SITUATED ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF CAMELOT COURT, APPROXIMATELY 140 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION OF CAMELOT COURT AND MILESTONE ROAD. THE PROPERTY SITUATED IN THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND DESIGNATED ON THE TAX MAP OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AS PARCEL ID 7.280 DASH 11 DASH 20. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT, AND I'LL WALK US THROUGH THE PLAN IN A MOMENT THAT, UH, DUE TO THE PROTECTION MEASURES TO BE UTILIZED DURING THE COURSE OF WORK, THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF TOTAL DISTURBANCE PROPOSED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT AND THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPOSED WORK TO THE OFFSITE WATERCOURSE, WHICH IS A CONVEYANCE CHANNEL LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 60 FEET AWAY. THE PLANNING BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION TWO 80 DASH EIGHT B ONE OF THE TOWN CODE WAIVE REFERRAL OF THIS APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR PROCESSING AND PERMIT THE TOWN'S WETLANDS INSPECTOR TO ISSUE A DECISION ON THE MINOR PROJECT PERMIT. SO WE HAVE AN AERIAL VIEW HERE OF THE LOT, AND VAL LAMAR'S A LITTLE TRICKY. FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT'S ONE AREA IN TOWN WHERE THE G I S MAPS A LITTLE BIT OFF. SO THE WHITE IS THE ACTUAL, UM, PROPERTY AND THE PATIO THAT EXISTS IS CLOSER TO THE REAR OF THE HOME. THEY WANT TO BUMP IT OUT IN THE BACK A BIT. AND, UM, THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE IS HERE. THERE'S A CONSERVATION BUFFER IN THE BACK. IN ADDITION TO THIS CONSERVATION BUFFER, THERE'S A POND, UH, ON AN ADJACENT PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE MOUNT CAVALRY CEMETERY PROPERTY THAT DRAINS IN THIS DIRECTION AND INTO A PIPE, WHICH THEN GETS PIPED UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AND INTO THE STORMWATER POND ON THE VALOR PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT DID REQUIRE A VARIANCE, UH, FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS TO SITUATE THE PATIO WITHIN TWO FEET OF THE REAR PROPERTY LINE. BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE WAS NO IMPACT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES IN THIS INSTANCE. AND THE ZONING BOARD DID GRANT THAT VARIANCE. THEY ALSO WENT BEFORE THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AND RECEIVED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. SO, UH, WE DON'T SEE HOW THIS PROJECT IS GONNA HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE OFFSITE WETLAND WATER COURSE. AND IF THE BOARD AGREES, UM, YOU CAN CLASSIFY THIS AS A TYPE TWO ACTION AND TURN IT OVER TO THE TOWN WETLANDS INSPECTOR. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. UH, AND I DO [00:10:01] HAVE SOME PHOTOS, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO THIS IS THE HOUSE. THIS IS THE DRIVEWAY THAT COMES IN AND THE PROPOSED PATIO IS, IS HERE 493.89 SQUARE FEET. AND IT'S PERMEABLE PAVERS. YOU SAID IT IS PERMEABLE PAVERS. WELL, DO YOU HAVE ONE THAT OVERLAYS WITH WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE? YEAH, SO THIS SORT OF SHOWS IT, YEAH, IF YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW, THAT'S THE, UH, NEW OUTLINE OF THE PATIO. AND THIS IS THE EXISTING SMALL ONE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH. ALSO, IF YOU SEE THE AERIAL THAT AARON HAD IN THE BEGINNING, THE RED COVERS WHAT'S ALREADY THERE? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS THE RED IS, UH, NEW AND THE, AND THE, AND THE GRAY UNDER. OH, OKAY. I SEE IT NOW. YOU CAN SEE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, BUT, OR IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT THE REAR YARD VARIANCE REQUIRED, IT LOOKS LIKE ALL QUITE A BIT OF SPACE BETWEEN THE WHITE LINE AND CONSERVATION EASEMENT. THAT'S WHY. YEAH. THERE'S A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, UH, THAT THEY HAVE TO RESPECT. SO THE BACKYARD PLUS THIS, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT SKEWED. THE, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE G I SS IS A LITTLE BIT SKEWED, SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SHOW THIS DRAWING, WHICH DOES SHOW THE ACTUAL PROPERTY DIMENSIONS. THIS BEING THE REAR, REAR YARD S BEING ON THE PROPERTY ONE. SO BEYOND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A LAWN AREA THAT WHO, WHO OWNS IT? THAT EASEMENT? IT'S VAL LAMAR. VAL LAMAR. HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. OKAY. AND THEY'VE SIGNED OFF ON IT. HE SUBMITTED A LETTER THAT THEY HAVE NO OBJECTION. SO AARON, THAT BLACK LINE AT THE TOP IS THE PROPERTY LINE CORRECT. WHICH IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT YOU SHOWED. YEAH, IT IS BECAUSE THE G YEAH, I GOT IT. THE GS IS WELL, BUT BEHIND THAT IS, IS JUST OPEN LAW CONSERVATION. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? NO, I THINK WE, SO I MAKE A MOTION. WE, UH, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE MOVING? UH, TYPE TWO ACTION. TYPE TWO. ACTION. YEAH. OH, EXCUSE ME. THERE'S TWO SEPARATE. TWO SEPARATE TWO. SO WE HAVE A SECOND TO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. OKAY. AND REFER IT TO THE TOWN WETLANDS INSPECTOR FOR DECISION FOR A DECISION. I SECOND THAT AS A MINOR CRIME, MINOR WETLANDS INSPECTOR . JUST MAKE SURE YOU, THE, THE, THE MOTION IS APPROPRIATELY WORDED THAT YOU ARE, UH, TURNING OVER TO THE WETLAND. UH, CLASSIFIED IT AS A MINOR WETLANDS PROJECT AND TURN IT OVER TO THE WETLANDS INSPECTOR. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. I SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. THANK YOU HOWARD. I GOT A QUESTION. YES. THIS MINOR WETLANDS LAW WAS FANTASTIC. I MEAN, IT SAVED EVERYBODY A LOT OF TIME WITH RESPECT TO PROJECTS WHICH HAD MINIMAL OR NO IMPACT, RIGHT? DO WE NEED A MINOR STEEP SLOPE LAW? SO, UH, IN THE CODE THERE IS A PROVISION FOR THE MINOR WETLAND AND HISTORICALLY THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, YOU KNOW, HAD HELD HEARINGS AND OR WORK SESSIONS ON THOSE. BUT THERE'S A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS THE PLANNING BOARD UPON REPORT FROM MYSELF AS TOWN WETLANDS INSPECTOR TO WAIVE JURISDICTION AND TURN IT OVER TO ME. WE CAN LOOK INTO WHETHER OR NOT THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE. ALREADY HAS THINK SHOULD DO. YES. ONE AT A TIME. ONE AT A TIME. COULD YOU LOOK INTO THAT AND I'LL REPORT THAT AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE A PRESENTATION TO US. THERE IS A PROCEDURE ALREADY. WILL YOU WANNA EXPLAIN IT, DAVE, PLEASE? YES. THERE, THERE IS A MINOR STEEP SLOPE. UH, IF IT, UH, THERE'S A THRESHOLD. IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE THRESHOLD, THEN THAT IS WITHIN, AS, AS, UH, THE WETLAND WOULD BE IN, UH, THE WETLAND INSPECTOR, THE ENGINEER STEVE SLOPE IS IN THE PROVINCE OF THE TOWN ENGINEER. RIGHT? SO THAT EXISTS. NOW, UH, THE QUESTION, HOWEVER, WHICH, UH, IS MAYBE DO YOU WANT TO UPGRADE, UH, OR, OR MAKE IT, UH, A HIGHER THRESHOLD? AND THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. MIGHT WANT TELL US AT THE NEXT MEETING. TELL US WHAT THE LAW IS. I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THE THRESHOLD. THE THRESHOLD IS THAT, UM, IT'S ONLY FOR PROJECTS WHERE I UNDERSTAND YOU NEED FOR, BUT I THINK WHAT THE, WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS FOR YOU TO TELL, UH, GET A COPY OF THE LAW MM-HMM. FOR THE BOARD. AND AT THE NEXT MEETING, EXPLAIN TO THE BOARD THE CODE AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU SAID THE THRESHOLD MIGHT CHANGE YOUR RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK THAT THRESHOLD SHOULD CHANGE. AND THEN AS THE BOARD, WE CAN LOOK AT THE LAW AND [00:15:01] THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHERE WE JUST, UH, UH, FOLLOW IT AS WRITTEN OR WE SHOULD CHANGE THE THRESHOLD. RIGHT. AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, UH, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MODIFY IT. UM, IT HAD BEEN THAT ONCE SOMEBODY PROPOSED DISTURBANCE OVER A 20% SLOPE AT THE TIME OF ENACTMENT, THAT TRIGGERED A TYPE ONE ACTION. WE'VE SINCE MODIFIED THE LOCAL TYPE ONE ACTIONS TO ELIMINATE DISTURBANCE TO STEEP SLOPES OVER 20%. SO THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY, I'LL SHARE THAT WITH THE BOARD. PLEASE, AT THAT POINT, WE'LL HAVE THE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A CHANGE. I RATHER NOT JUST DO IT, YOU KNOW, UH, OFFHAND AND MAKE A CHANGE, SIR. OF COURSE. OKAY. OKAY. UM, UH, UH, THAT, OKAY. THE OTHER PART OF CORRESPONDENCE IS A COPY OF THE RECOMMENDATION FOR ALTERNATE THAT YOU GOT IN YOUR EMAIL, UH, FOR YOUR REVIEW OF WHICH I SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN BOARD. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF A NAME OF AN ALTERNATE MEMBER TO THE PLANNING BOARD YOUR RECOMMEND MAKING RECOMMENDATION? DO YOU KNOW THE TOWN BOARD'S TAKING THAT UP? I, I DON'T KNOW IF I, I DON'T KNOW. I DO NOT KNOW. I JUST GAVE IT TO THEM ABOUT A WEEK AGO. OKAY. CAN WE FIND OUT WHEN, WHEN THAT'S ON THE AGENDA? 'CAUSE SOONER IS BETTER THAN LATER. ABSOLUTELY. NOW THAT WE'RE OUT OF, UH, ZOOM LANE. OKAY. I CERTAINLY WILL. OKAY. WITH THAT DONE, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, NOW GO TO AGENDA. FIRST THING OF BUSINESS, UH, CASE PB 2112, A DECISION ON A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION. NOW THE WORD SOUNDS ODD BECAUSE IN THIS CASE, WE ARE NOT SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY. WE ARE COMBINING TWO PROPERTIES, BUT TECHNICALLY UNDER THE LAW IT STILL COMES ON THE HEADING OF A SUBDIVISION. SO WE HAVE THE DRAFT DECISION ON A SUBDIVISION, UH, IN FRONT OF US. AND, UH, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? IT, IT'S A VERY BASIC DECISION. UM, THERE ARE NO SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS. YOU MAY RECALL. THERE'S NO SITE WORK PROPOSED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT. YEAH, IT, AND THERE'S JUST ONE VOTE, UH, ON WHETHER OR NOT TO GRANT THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A SEEKER HONOR. IT SEEKER HAS BEEN DONE. IT WAS DONE BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. I MOVE. WE GRANT THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION. I SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. UM, THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION IS APPROVED. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW WE WILL GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE RECORD, WE NEED TO TAKE THE 10 MINUTES AGAIN. YOU READY? MR. GOLDEN? HERE. MR. SIMON? HERE. MR. SCHWARTZ? HERE. MR. DESAI. HERE NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBERS, MR. HAY AND MR. SNAGS ARE NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING. MS. FREYTAG IS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY OVER THE PHONE, UH, BUT WILL NOT BE A VOTING MEMBER THIS EVENING. GOOD MORNING. ARE YOU THERE? I'M HERE. OKAY. OKAY, . OKAY. UM, THE FIRST, UH, ITEM ON THE AGENDAS PB 2105 ACCORDING TO THE CEMETERY. YES. FOR A, I'LL JUST READ A BRIEF INTRODUCTION. SO, AS CHAIRPERSON, SIMON INDICATED PB 21 DASH ZERO FIVE FOR INCL CEMETERY LOCATED AT TWO 80 C CORE ROAD PO HARTSDALE IN THE R 31 FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FOR A PROPOSAL INVOLVING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PORTION OF THE CEMETERY PROPERTY TO CONSTRUCT VARIOUS CRIPS AND BURIAL VAULTS ON PREVIOUSLY UNDEVELOPED CEMETERY LAND WITH RELATED RETAINING WALLS AND LANDSCAPING. ON JULY 27TH, 2021, THE TOWN BOARD ISSUED AMENDED SITE PLAN AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPROVALS IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT AS PART OF CASE NUMBER TB 21 DASH ZERO SEVEN. PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS MATTER DURING ITS JUNE 2ND, 2021 MEETING WHERE IT ISSUED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD ON THE APPLICANT'S AMENDED SITE PLAN. APPLICATION PLANNING BOARD ADJOURNED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER TO THIS DATE WITHOUT DISCUSSION DURING ITS JULY 7TH MEETING. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT [00:20:01] AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA REMIND BOARD MEMBERS THAT THIS IS A STEEP SLOPE, UH, UH, APPLICATION. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE APPLICATION, SO ANCILLARY ISSUES THAT ARE NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE STEEP SLOPE, UH, WE SHOULD NOT BE DISCUSSING HERE TONIGHT. IT HAS TO BE ISSUES OF THE STEEP SLOPE AND THINGS THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE STEEP SLOPE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS JAMES CARIS, UH, PLANNER AND PROJECT MANAGER WITH J M C, UH, HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF FERNCLIFF CEMETERY ASSOCIATION, UH, SEEKING, UH, THE STEEP SLOPES PERMIT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING TO BE OPENED, UH, THIS EVENING. UM, UH, AARON, WOULD YOU, UH, MIND PUTTING OUR, UH, PRESENTATION UP? YES, WE COULD YOU GET A LITTLE CLOSE UP THE MIC, STEVE? YEAH. STEVE ARE SURE YOU CAN HEAR HIM ON? SURE. SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, YOUR BOARD IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT. UM, WE RECENTLY, UH, APPEARED BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD RECEIVED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION UNDER SEEKER, AS WELL AS THE AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND THE TREE REMOVAL APPROVAL. UH, BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, UH, I'LL JUST GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION. UH, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE SCREEN IS A OVERALL AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE FERNCLIFF CEMETERY PROPERTY, UH, LOCATED ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF SEACOR ROAD. 64 ACRES AND SIDES HAS EXTENSIVE GROUND BURIALS AS WELL AS THREE EXISTING MAUSOLEUM STRUCTURES. THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IN THE CENTER NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE IS THE AREA KNOWN AS HILLCREST WEST, AND IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS APPLICATION FOR A STEEP SLOPES PERMIT. UH, THIS JUST SHOWS A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROJECT HISTORY. I WON'T GO THROUGH THIS, BUT, UH, WE HAVE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH YOUR BOARD, UH, AND ALSO WITH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING OUR DIRECTLY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AND THE TOWN BOARD TO, UH, COME TO THE PLAN. WE'RE, UH, HOPEFULLY APPROVING THIS EVENING. THIS, UH, THIS SLIDE IS A, UH, AERIAL RENDERING OF, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, INSTALLATION. UM, WE BASICALLY HAVE, UH, TWO AREAS OF GROUND BURIALS, UH, AN UPPER GROUND AREA AND A LOWER AREA SEPARATED BY RETAINING WALLS. UH, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 700 LAWN CRIPS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE INSTALLED IN THE GROUND HERE, IN ADDITION TO APPROXIMATELY 50, UH, CRYPT ESTATES FOR FAMILIES AND GENERATIONAL PLANNING, AS WELL AS 18 CREMATION ESTATES. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE WALLS ARE EXTENSIVELY LANDSCAPED ON BOTH THE BOTTOM FACE OF THE WALL AND THE TOP BACK OF THE WALL AS WELL. UH, THE NEXT FOUR SLIDES ARE JUST, UH, UH, SOME PERSPECTIVE RENDERINGS, UH, OF WHAT THE PROPOSED, UH, SITE WILL LOOK LIKE AFTER THE IMPLEMENTATION. YOU CAN SEE, UH, IT IS PRIMARILY GOING TO BE RETURNED TO, UH, LAWN, WHICH IT IS TODAY. UH, BUT WITH THE ADDITION OF THE RETAINING WALLS TO, UH, RAISE THE GRADE UP INTO, UM, ELIMINATE, UH, A LOT OF THE, THE STEEP SLOPES THAT ARE OUT THERE. NEXT, ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING, UH, EASTWARD OVER THE SITE, THE LOWER, UH, BURIAL AREA IN THE FOREGROUND AND THE UPPER AREA IN THE BACK. UH, SAME THING, JUST MORE OF A OVERALL, OVERALL PERSPECTIVE, UH, OF THE UPPER, UH, GROUND BURIAL AREA. AND FINALLY, A, UH, EYE LEVEL VIEW, UH, SHOWING, UM, UH, A FAMILY ESTATE PLOT HERE WITH, UH, A MEMORIAL BENCH AND, UM, UH, MONUMENT. THE SUBJECT OF THIS EVENING'S HEARING IS THE STEEP SLOPES PERMIT. UM, THIS IS, UH, AN AREA OF DISTURBANCE. WE HAVE, UH, JUST UNDER ONE ACRE, 0.8 ACRES IN SIZE. UH, THE AREAS, UH, HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND ORANGES ARE THE REGULATED, UH, TOWN STEEP SLOPES. AND YOU'LL ALSO NOTE THAT ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, THERE ARE, UH, AN AREA OF, UH, TREE REMOVAL. UM, BUT, UH, REMIND THE BOARD THAT THERE'S EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING THAT WILL BE PUT BACK, UM, WELL IN EXCESS OF WHAT WE'RE, UH, REMOVING AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. AND FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH UPON, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, SEDIMENT AND EROSION CONTROL MEASURES THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. UH, THIS, THIS PLAN WAS TAKEN FROM THE PLAN SET THAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED, UH, SEVERAL TIMES AND REVIEWED BY, UH, TOWN STAFF AND ENGINEERING. UM, SO WE'RE PROPOSING THE STANDARD S AND E MEASURES HERE TO MITIGATE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. UM, A STABILIZED CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE, UH, INLAND PROTECTION FOR EXISTING DRAINAGE STRUCTURES IN THE VICINITY, AND A SILT FENCE, UH, HIGHLIGHTED IN AND RED, UH, ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE, UH, AREA OF DISTURBANCE DOWN SLOPE. AND, UH, ESSENTIALLY, UM, THAT IS, UH, THE BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS PROJECT AS IT PERTAINS TO THE STEEP SLOPES PERMIT WE'RE REQUESTING. THANK YOU. UH, SEEING HOW THIS IS, UH, UH, A HAIR ON THIS STEEP SLOPE, COULD YOU FOCUS ON THIS STEEP SLOPE, BUT IN TERMS OF HAVING SIDE CUTS TO SEE HOW HIGH THE WALLS ARE, I THINK SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, BUT YOU PRESENTED THAT. YEP. SO COULD YOU TALK [00:25:01] ABOUT THOSE THINGS THAT ARE DIRECTED TO THE STEEP SLOPE? YES. AND AARON, UH, THOSE WERE THE FOUR SLIDES WE INCLUDED AT THE END OF THIS. UH, NEXT ONE. NEXT ONE. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THIS IS A VIEW, UH, THIS IS A SECTIONAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED WALL LOOKING SOUTH. SO AS IF YOU WERE STANDING IN THE BACKYARD OF THE, UH, ADJACENT RESIDENCES. SO, UM, MOVING FROM PLAN LEFT TO RIGHT, UM, WE GO FROM, UH, EAST TO WEST AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WALL IS TIERED. WE HAVE THE UPPER AREA, WHICH IS, WHICH CONSTITUTES THE TALLER WALL, AND THEN THE LOWER AREA THAT STEPS DOWN AND CONSTITUTES THE LOWER, UH, BURIAL AREA. AND, UH, WHAT ESSENTIALLY WE'RE DOING IS, UH, ELIMINATING THESE AREAS OF STEEP SLOPES BY GRADUALLY RAISING THE GRADE, RETAINING WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN, AND, UH, REPLACING IT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, A SLOPE, UH, THAT'S, UH, CONDUCIVE TO, UH, THE INSTALLATION OF GROUND BURIALS. AND IF THERE IS ONE MORE SLIDE HERE YET. SO, UH, THESE ARE TWO SECTIONS THAT WE CUT THROUGH BOTH THE UPPER WALL AND THE LOWER WALL. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM, UH, YOU HAVE THE HIGHER OF THE WALLS, TWO WALLS THERE. UM, WE'RE SCREENING IT WITH, UH, LANDSCAPING ON BOTH THE BOTTOM AND THE TOP OF THE WALL. AND, UH, THAT THIS WALL VARIES IN HEIGHT FROM ABOUT 12 FEET DOWN TO EIGHT FEET. AND THEN YOU STEP DOWN, UM, TO THE LOWER AREA, UH, PROPOSING THE SAME, UM, UH, LANDSCAPE MITIGATION FOR SCREENING. UH, BUT THE WALL IS APPROXIMATELY, UH, FOUR TO SIX FEET IN HEIGHT IN THIS AREA. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD OF ON THIS APPLICATION? THIS IS BEFORE NO. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO SPEAK TO THIS APPLICATION, IF NOT, IS UH, CAN I HAVE A, A PROPOSAL TO CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN FOR 10 DAYS? WHAT DATE WOULD THAT BE? STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND? UH, AUGUST 18TH. TWO WEEKS. OKAY. TO ORDER. ALL IN FAVOR? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NONE. OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE A DECISION PREPARED FOR THE BOARD'S NEXT MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOODNIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, OKAY. UM, THE NEXT TWO, UH, HEARING ON, UH, WE'RE GONNA REMEMBER WE HAVE TWO RELATED PROJECTS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME. UH, FIRST WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE, THE BUILDING, AND THEN WE, UH, THAT WILL BE P PD 2104, AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE SECOND ONE ABOUT THE PARKING LOT. THAT'S P P 2109. SO WE'LL START OFF WITH T B 21, CODE FOUR. OKAY. I GOT YOUR EMAIL. THANKS. YOU GIVE US A MOMENT JUST TO LOAD THE POWERPOINT. . STEVE, DO YOU THINK I SHOULD OR CONTINUE WITHOUT, OH, CONTINUE WITHOUT, IS IT CLEAN? PERFECT. UH, TOWN OF GREENBERG PLANNING BOARD, AND THEN THAT, SO THAT'S EVERYTHING. YOU HAVE THE PDFS ALREADY, BUT THAT THE TOP ONE'S, THE ANIMATION WHENEVER WE'RE READY TO GO. OKAY. OR YOU COULD OPEN THE PDFS HERE, I GUESS. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO. WE'LL DO PARCEL D FIRST, RIGHT? YES. PARCEL D FIRST, THE TOP ONE PLEASE. ALL SET. AARON, ARE YOU STARTING OR MY MYSELF, UH, WE WILL JUST HAVE THE GENTLEMAN STATE HIS NAME FOR THE RECORD SINCE HE WAS SPEAKING AS WELL. SORRY. STEVE SPINO WITH J M C SITE ENGINEER. OKAY, THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT. THANK YOU. SO AS CHAIRPERSON SIMON INDICATED, NEXT CASE IS PB 21 DASH ZERO FOUR. UH, REGENERON LOCATED AT 7 7 7 OLD SAW MILL RIVER ROAD, P O TERRYTOWN, AND THE OB OFFICE BUILDING ZONING DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT SEEKS PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND WET AND WATERCOURSE PERMIT APPROVALS IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO STORY, APPROXIMATELY 207,940 SQUARE FOOT RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BUILDING AND STRUCTURED PARKING FACILITY WITHIN IN AN EXISTING R AND D CAMPUS, ALONG WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS. PLANNING BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS MATTER AT THIS MATTER AT ITS JULY 7TH MEETING. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS MARK WEINGARTEN. I AM A PARTNER IN THE LAW FIRM OF DELBELLO DANNEL, WEINGARTEN WISE [00:30:01] AND WHITAKER. AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING REPRESENTING REGENERON INC. IN CONNECTION WITH ITS REQUEST FOR STEEP SLOPES AND WETLANDS WATERCOURSE PERMIT APPROVALS TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN APPROXIMATELY 207,000 SQUARE FOOT LABORATORY BUILDING LOCATED ON PARCEL D OF THE REGENERON CAMPUS, LOCATED AT 7 7 7 OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. I'D LIKE TO START BY, UH, SPEAKING TO A PROCEDURAL POINT. UH, AS WE ALL KNOW, THE LEAD AGENCY ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS THE TOWN BOARD THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN COMPLETED. WE ARE ANTICIPATING THE SEEKER TO BE FINALIZED ON AUGUST 11TH. SO THAT MEANS THAT YOUR PLANNING BOARD, WHILE YOU CAN OPEN THE HEARING THIS EVENING, IS UNABLE TO VOTE. AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE ARE STILL GONNA ASK AT THE END OF THIS HEARING AND THE NEXT ONE FOR THE PLANNING BOARD, IF THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION NEEDED TO CLOSE THE HEARING. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, AND BECAUSE YOU CAN'T VOTE AND FINISH TONIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO, AND WE WOULD EXPECT AND HOPE THAT WE WOULD BE ON FOR A VOTE IN SEP YOUR MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, THE NEXT ONE BEING SEPTEMBER 15TH. WITH THOSE DATES IN MIND, WE WOULD STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO EXTENDING ANY DEADLINES FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO ACT IF THE SEEKER PROCESS DOES NOT CLOSE ON AUGUST 11, NOR WILL WE OBJECT TO THE REOPENING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THE PLANNING BOARD DEEMS SUCH AN ACTION NECESSARY. SO WE WILL STATE THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS HEARING, AND WE WILL STATE IT AGAIN FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE NEXT HEARING. SO THERE IS NO HARM IF WE CLOSE THE HEARING THIS EVENING. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, OKAY, MOVING ALONG. UH, I WON'T GO THROUGH THE FULL PRESENTATION AS WE DID AS WE'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU, BUT JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS HEARING AND FOR THE PUBLIC, WE ALL KNOW THAT REGENERON IS A WORLDWIDE LEADING SCIENCE-BASED BIOPHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY, WHICH INVENTS DEVELOPS MANUFACTURERS AND COMMERCIALIZES LIFE TRANSFORMING MEDICINES FOR PEOPLE WITH SERIOUS ILLNESSES. IT'S FOUNDED OVER 30 YEARS AGO. IT'S HEADQUARTERED HERE IN GREENBURG. IT'S LED BY WESTCHESTER RESIDENTS. IT HAS OVER EIGHT F D A APPROVED TREATMENTS AND PRODUCTS, ALL HOMEGROWN IN ITS LAB. WE'RE VERY PROUD TO HAVE THEM HERE. THERE ARE OVER 300,000 EMPLOYEES WORKING ON THE CAMPUS CURRENTLY, AND IT IS POISED TO GROW AT A MUCH GREATER RATE, UH, IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT AND PROJECTS TO COME. I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY, UH, STEVEN SPINA, WHO YOU'LL HEAR FROM A MOMENT FROM J M C. IT'S TOUGH TO LICK YOUR FINGERS TO MOVE THE PAGES WITH THE, WITH THE MASK ON, BUT, UH, WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN. UH, OUR PROJECT MANAGER FROM J M C, UH, BEN SUZUKI WILL BE JOINING US SHORTLY. HE'S THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE AND FACILITIES MANAGEMENT, ENGINEERING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. UH, WE ALSO HAVE WITH US LIAM LOWRY, UH, THE DESIGN DIRECTOR AT FLAT OF FLAT, OUR ARCHITECTS AND MY ASSOCIATE ANNIE KLEIN. SO WE'RE FLIPPING TO THE NEXT, WELL, HERE WE ARE ON THIS SLIDE. UH, THIS IS THE GREENBURG PORTION OF THE CAMPUS. TO THE TOP LEFT IS OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD. UH, THAT'S WHERE THE BRIDGE GOES ACROSS THE STREET TO THE MOUNT PLEASANT PART OF THE CAMPUS THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT WHEN WE WERE IN FRONT OF YOU. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE CALL THE SOUTH PART OF THE CAMPUS AND THE GREENBURG PART OF THE CAMPUS, THE SOUTH CAMPUS IS IN YELLOW, UH, ON THE SCREEN. IT'S ROUGHLY 65 ACRES. IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THREE BUILDINGS OF 360,000 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL BUILDINGS, A, B, AND C. AND WE NOW LOOK TO ADD D, WHICH WE'LL MENTION IN A MOMENT. UH, LOOP THE LOOP ROAD PARCEL, UH, ARE THE ROUGHLY A HUNDRED ACRES THAT HAVE BEEN DE SUBDIVIDED INTO TWO PARCELS BELOW, WHICH ARE IN GREEN AND ARE IN PURPLE. IN THE GREEN. ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS WHERE THE MILLION SQUARE FEET HAS PREVIOUSLY BE BEEN APPROVED, AND WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE BUILDINGS WILL BE TAKING PLACE. WHAT IT WILL BE BEFORE YOU LATER THIS EVENING, WHICH IS THE TEMPORARY PARKING AND STAGING IS ON THE PURPLE PART, UH, ON LOT TWO OF THAT SUB OF THAT SUBDIVISION. UH, ALSO, BY THE WAY, IF YOU LOOK UP AT THE TOP LEFT, THE BLUE IS THE M S G FACILITY, THE TRAINING FACILITY JUST TO ORIENT YOU, UH, TO THE PROCESS. SO LET'S MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO IF YOU SEE HERE IN, UH, BROWN AND THEN IN GRAY, THIS IS THE PROPOSED PROJECT ON THE SOUTH CAMPUS ON THE PARCEL D, WHICH IS THE 207,000 ROUGHLY SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. JUST TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF HISTORY, AS I THINK YOU'RE AWARE, IN 2014, B M R, THE LANDMARK EAST VIEW, WHICH WAS REGENERON PREDECESSOR AND INTEREST IN FORMER LANDLORD, RECEIVED AN AMENDED PRO, UH, UH, SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO BUILD A 128,564 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON ROUGHLY THIS EXACT SAME SITE RIGHT HERE. UH, WE ARE AMENDING IT TO MAKE THE BUILDING LARGER. WE'VE GONE THROUGH YOU WITH YOU WHEN WE DID SITE PLAN EXPLAINING THE REASONS AND THE TYPES OF USES AND THINGS. AND IT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR THIS PARTICULAR HEARING UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE WETLANDS, UH, [00:35:01] THAT WE REQUEST. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PARCEL D PROJECT THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU NOW COMPARED TO WHAT, WHAT WAS APPROVED BY YOU BACK IN 2014 REQUIRES ONLY A SMALL INCREASE LESS THAN, UH, IT'S LESS THAN A QUARTER OF AN ACRE, 0.2 OF AN ACRE IN WETLAND BUFFER INCURSION AS COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN. SO IT'S VIRTUALLY THE SAME. UH, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE STILL COMPLETELY AVOID ANY INCURSION INTO THE WETLANDS THEMSELVES. THIS IS JUST BUFFER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UH, WE HAD THIS PROJECT, THE PARCEL D PROJECT BEFORE THE, UH, CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AND RECEIVED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT ON JULY 22ND. UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE PROJECT, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO STEVEN, MAY WE, COULD WE OPEN UP THE ANIMATION AND SHOW THE PROJECT TO, UH, THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC PLEASE? SURE. WE GONNA TRY. OKAY. YOU WANT TO HELP HIM OR IT'S JUST WORKED AT THE TOWN BOARD. . TRY ONE MORE TIME. IF NOT, YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE OUR WORD THAT IT'S A VERY BEAUTIFUL ANIMATION OF THE BUILDINGS . WE DID SHOW IT AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING, UH, LAST TIME LAST WEEK. I WAS THERE. I SAW IT THERE. IT'S GOOD. GOT IT. SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE, UH, BUILDING FOR THE P M P D, THE PRECLINICAL, UH, AGAIN, IT'S, WHILE MANUFACTURING IS IN THE WORD, IT'S NOT MANUFACTURING, IT'S PRIOR TO MANUFACTURING. IT'S THE TESTING PROCESS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE INSIDE THIS BUILDING ON THE VARIOUS PRODUCTS BEING TESTED. WE THINK IT FITS IN BEAUTIFULLY WITH THE REST OF THE CAMPUS. YEAH, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, OUR ARCHITECTS ARE HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE ISSUES. BUT AGAIN, THIS EVENING WE'RE FOCUSING ON WETLANDS AND STEEP SLOPES, AND THAT'LL GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT OF HOW IT FITS INTO THE GENERAL, UH, FACILITY. A LITTLE LOUDER. UH, AND THAT WILL GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT AS HOW IT FITS INTO THE OVERALL CAMPUS. MM-HMM. , ARE ALL THE BUILDINGS CONNECTED? WELL, BRIDGE OR TUNNEL? THEY, THEY, THEY ARE. AND AS YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR APPLICATION, WHICH AGAIN, IS NOT IMPACTING WETLANDS AND STEEP SLOPES, WHICH YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE, IS A BRIDGE THAT WILL, UH, BRIDGE THIS BUILDING OVER TO LOOP ROAD SO THAT THE CONNECTION WILL CONTINUE, UH, SO THAT EVERYONE CAN CONTINUE TO ACCESS ALL OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO OUTSIDE. I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO STEVE SPINA, WHO WILL WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. STEVE SPINA FROM J M C, WE'RE THE SITE ENGINEER. AND, UM, I GUESS WE'LL FIRST START JUST QUICKLY REVIEWING THE APPROVED PLAN FROM 2014. UH, THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE WOULD BE THE, UH, THE, THE, THE TAN STRUCTURE ON THE LEFT IS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BUILDING. UH, YOU CAN SEE TWO SMALL BRIDGES THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THE ADJACENT EXISTING BUILDING TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST. AND THEN THERE WAS A LARGE PARKING STRUCTURE, UH, RIGHT THERE. THE DARKER COLOR THAT, UH, WAS, WAS, UH, TWO, UH, THREE STORIES, UH, WITH A, WITH A FOOTPRINT THAT COVERED A LOT OF THE EXISTING PARKING THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE CAMPUS. THE RED REPRESENTS THE EXISTING WETLANDS AND THE BLUE REPRESENTS THEIR 100 FOOT WETLAND BUFFER. SO YOU CAN SEE THE PRIOR PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, DOES ENCROACH INTO THE WETLAND BUFFERS, UM, IN SOME CASES, UH, RIGHT UP TO THE WETLANDS THEMSELVES. AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL GET A CLOSER LOOK AT HOW THAT COMPARES TO THE NEW PLAN IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. SO THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE NEW PLAN. UM, EVERYTHING'S THE SAME COLOR. SO YOU CAN SEE THE NEW BUILDING IS LARGER IN FOOTPRINT, BUT IT'S SHORTER IN ITS HEIGHT. AND WE'VE KIND OF EXPLAINED IN PRIOR MEETINGS THAT THAT'S A FUNCTION OF THE SPECIFIC USE THAT IT'S BEEN DESIGNED FOR. [00:40:01] UH, AND, AND THE PARKING STRUCTURE, UH, FOOTPRINT IS KIND OF THE OPPOSITE. THAT'S SHRUNK, BUT IS HIGHER NOW. SO WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A SMALLER FOOTPRINT, BUT STILL PROVIDE THAT PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED. UH, SAME, SAME AS THE PRIOR SLIDE. YOU CAN SEE THE WETLANDS IN RED AND THE BUFFER IN BLUE. UM, THERE IS STILL PROPOSED, UH, INCURSION INTO THE WETLAND BUFFER, UH, BUT NONE INTO THE WETLANDS THEMSELVES. AND THEY'LL, THERE, THERE'S A COMPARISON PLAN THAT WE'LL REVIEW, UH, SHOWING HOW THEY DIFFER, UH, COMING UP WHEN WE DISCUSS WETLANDS. SO STEEP SLOPES IS ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'RE HERE FOR. UH, THIS PLAN SHOWS AN OVERALL VIEW OF, UH, THE PARCEL D PROJECT AND THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT AND TRAILER COMPLEX PROJECT. AND BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN YELLOW AND BROWN ARE THE STEEP SLOPES. SO THOSE ARE THE COMPUTER MEASURING THE SLOPES BETWEEN ALL THE TWO FOOT CONTOURS AND GENERATING THOSE DIFFERENT STEEP SLOPES CATEGORIES THAT, UH, THAT THE TOWN CODE REGULATES. THE RED REPRESENTS THE BOUNDARIES OF PROPOSED BUILDINGS, PARKING AREAS, ET CETERA. SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE ARE STEEP SLOPES WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES. AND, AND THAT'S, UM, ONE OF THE PERMITS WE'RE HERE BEFORE THE BOARD AND, AND FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TWO DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS. AND WE'LL REVIEW A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE TEMPORARY PARKING IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION. OKAY. THEN WE GO TO WETLANDS. SO AS I WAS MENTIONING BEFORE, THIS IS A COMPARISON PLAN THAT SHOWS THE NEW PROPOSED DESIGN, BUT THE KEY ITEMS HERE ARE THE GREEN, IS THE COMMON WETLAND BUFFER ENCROACHMENT THAT BOTH THE APPROVED PLAN AND A NEW PLAN HAVE. SO EACH ONE OF THOSE PLANS ENCROACHED INTO THE WETLAND BUFFER IN THE GREEN COLOR. THE APPROVED PLAN ALSO ENCROACHED INTO THE YELLOW AREA, SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IT'S CLOSER TO THE WETLAND. THE NEW PROPOSED PLAN ENCROACH IS IN THE BLUE COLOR. AND THE REASON THAT THE BLUE COLLAR IS, UH, QUITE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED IS THERE'S AN APPROVED WIDENING TO THE EXISTING LOOP ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH THE CAMPUS THAT IS ALREADY PART OF THE LOOP ROAD HOLDINGS APPROVAL. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD THAT PORTION OF THE ROADWAY NOW BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTING THIS BUILDING AND ITS SURROUNDING UTILITIES AND CONSTRUCTION ACCESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT FACTORS INTO IT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF LOGISTICS GOING ON THERE WHERE, UH, WE STRONGLY FEEL IT MAKES SENSE TO BUILD THAT PORTION OF THE ROADWAY NOW. UM, SO IT'S REALLY NOT ADDING MORE TO THE, IF YOU'RE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES, NOT ADDING MORE TO THE PROJECT. UM, BUT IT IS, IF WE FACTOR IN ADDING THAT ROADWAY THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED UNDER ANOTHER, UH, PROJECT, BUT IT IS SHOWN ON THESE PLANS. SO THAT'S WHY THERE IS THAT 0.2 ACRE INCREASE IN WETLAND BUFFER DISTURBANCE. IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY A FUNCTION OF THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PLAN? I KNOW THERE'S A LOT THERE TO KIND OF, UH, ABSORB, BUT OKAY, SIR. ABSOLUTELY BE CLEAR ON WHAT WAS PREVIOUS APPROVED. I'M SORRY. UH, THAT WAS PREVIOUS A DIAGRAM ON THE DIAGRAM TO POINT OUT WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND WHAT WAS BEING GOING ON TO CLEARLY POINT THAT OUT ON THE DIAGRAM. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IF I TRY TO FOLLOW IT ON THE DIAGRAM, SO MAYBE YOU COULD DO THAT, THE PLAINTIFF, UM, SURE. I DON'T HAVE A POINTER, UH, WITH ME, BUT IT'S, IT'S, YOU CAN TALK ME. SO THE, SO THE GREEN AND THE YELLOW, IF YOU ADD THOSE TWO COLORS UP, THAT'S WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. CORRECT. AND THEN NOW WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THE GREEN AND THE BLUE, SO NOT THE YELLOW ANYMORE. SO, SO THE NEW, THE NEW LIMITED DISTURBANCE IS PULLED BACK FARTHER FROM THE WETLAND. SO THAT SLIVER OF YELLOW IN A FEW AREAS WHERE WE WERE PREVIOUSLY INTO THAT AREA, WE'RE NO LONGER IN THAT AREA. OH, BUT YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DIAGRAM DEMONSTRATE THAT, UH, THERE, THERE ARE, UM, AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION THERE'S ADDITIONAL SLIDES, UM, THAT, UH, SHOW SOME DIFFERENT GRAPHICS TO MAYBE HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION. ACTUALLY, I THINK YOU CAN SEE IT ON THERE BECAUSE YOU, WHAT YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAY, WHICH IS PART, PART OF THE NEW PROJECT, RIGHT? JUST BLOW IT UP A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. YOU CAN SEE IT DOESN'T COME FORWARD TOWARDS THE WETLANDS. AND THEN HE, AND THEN HE SPOT IN FACT IT GOES BACK, WHICH IS WHERE THE YELLOW IS. SO, SO IT ACTUALLY IS PULLED BACK SLIGHTLY FROM THE ORIGINAL, BUT, AND WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS THAT THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD [00:45:01] HAD NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. AND THE NET IMPACT OF THAT IS, IS MOST OF THE DIFFERENCE IN, IN, UH, DISTURBANCE INSIDE THE BUFFER, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. BUT THE BLUE HAS BEEN APPROVED BUT JUST NOT AS PART OF THE PARCEL D PROJECT THAT WAS PART OF THE LOOP ROAD PROJECT. BUT IT WASN'T CALCULATED, IT WASN'T CALCULATED BEFORE FOR, FOR WETLAND'S POINT OF VIEW, I BELIEVE IT IS IN THE LOOP ROAD PROJECT. THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR NOW BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO BUILD IT NOW. NO, NO, BUT THAT'S, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IF, IF, IF YOU TOOK THE ROAD OUT FOR A SECOND AND JUST LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FOOTPRINTS OF THE TWO BUILDINGS, RIGHT, WHAT WOULD THE DIFFERENCE BE IN TERMS OF WETLANDS DISTURBANCE? DO YOU KNOW? WELL, YOU HAVE TWO BLUE AREAS UP. NO, I'M TAKING THE BLUE AREAS UP. NO, NO. OH, OKAY. TAKING THE BLUE AROUND THE ROAD OUT. BUT THE TWO BLUE AREAS UP THERE, I DON'T, SO I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT NUMBER, BUT WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD HAVE LESS WETLAND BUFFER DISTURBANCE THOUGH. YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE, IF YOU TOOK THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING, YOU'RE SAYING ON THE RECORD THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE LESS DISTURBED WETLANDS DISTURBANCE IF YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE THE ROAD? THAT'S CORRECT. YES. THE YELLOW, THE YELLOW AREAS HERE WOULD BE GREATER THAN THOSE TWO LITTLE BLUE ONES THAT ARE UP THERE IF YOU TAKE OUT THE ROAD. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S HELPFUL. AND JUST ONE SUGGESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE IT ON THE AARON, CAN YOU, I INDICATE WHERE THE WETLAND IS JUST IN GENERAL. OH, OKAY. SURE. SO THE WETLAND IS SORT OF THE WHITE AREA ON, ON BOTH SIDES. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHY, OH, WELL, ACTUALLY LET ME SHOW YOU. THIS IS THE WETLAND BOUNDARY. STEVEN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. THIS IS THE WETLAND BOUNDARY. YOU HAD IT ON A PREVIOUS SLIDE TO, AND, UH, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO ON THIS SIDE. ONE IS RIGHT THIS CIRCLE, RIGHT? THAT'S AND THEN THE OTHER ONE'S DOWN HERE, RIGHT? YEP. OKAY. SO THE WETLANDS AREN'T THAT ENTIRE WHITE AREA, THAT'S JUST NOT, THERE'S JUST NO DISTURBANCE PROPOSED IN THERE. SO WE, WE DIDN'T COLOR IT, BUT THE WETLAND BOUNDARY THEMSELVES ARE SMALLER. I, I, I THINK THE POINT TO WHAT WALTER HAS IS THAT I THINK YOU HAVE SO MANY INFORMATIONS IN THIS YEAH. 1, 1, 1 DIAGRAM THAT IT'S DIFFICULT US TO FOLLOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WHAT WE SEE. AND SO EITHER, EITHER YOU CAN KIND OF ADD, UH, THE WETLAND ITSELF WITH A DIFFERENT COLOR. LIKE YOU HAD THE GRADE YEAH. BEFORE OR IF YOU YEAH, YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT ALREADY. YEAH. BUT IT JUST BECOMES CLEARER TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE, WHAT IT WAS BEFORE AND WHAT IT IS NOW. BASICALLY THAT'S ALL I'M, LOOK WHAT IT WAS BEFORE AND WHAT IT WAS NOW UNTIL THEN. IT'S VERY EASY TO SEE WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE. IT WAS VERY EASY TO SEE WHAT EFFECT IT HAD ON THE BUFFER. BUT IF YOU HAVE THAT DI IF YOU HAVE THAT PICTURE, THAT'D BE FINE. IF NOT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, THE EXPLANATION, UH, UH, AT LEAST GIVES ME A BETTER, UH, COMFORT LEVEL OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING DONE. ALSO. ALSO, I THINK, WALTER, I WANT TO ADD THAT IF YOU SHOW THE, THE PREVIOUS BUILDING INSIDE OF, UH, I, I, IN, IN, IN A KIND OF, UH, DIAGRAM THAT YOU WERE SHOWING IT, WHICH WAS LIKE A FOOTPRINT OF THE PREVIOUS BUILDINGS, THE, THE SMALLER, UH, AND TALLER RESEARCH, I MEAN THE, THE, UH, BUILDING AND THEN THE GARAGE. SO IT KIND OF MAKES IT A VERY CLEAR, I KNOW IT IS GETTING TOO MANY INFORMATION ON ONE DRAWING, BUT MAYBE HE WANTED TO HAVE SOME WAY TO, UH, COLOR IT. AND THEN WHAT, UH, HUGH HAS A POINT IS THAT IF YOU TAKE OUT THE, UH, THE BLUE, WHICH WAS LIKE AN ORIGINALLY WAS A DIFFERENT PROJECT, SO, UH, I THINK IT'S A CHALLENGE, BUT IF YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT, WAYS TO SHOW IT IN A DIFFERENT KIND OF OVERLAY OR SOMETHING. LET'S BE REALISTIC HERE. I THINK THE GOAL, I WANNA BRING US BACK TO TIMING. OKAY. I THINK THE GOAL IS TO CLO CLOSE THE C TONIGHT. SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA REDO THE SLIDES, GET A GOOD EXPLANATION. WE DO HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT THEY'RE REDUCING THE IMPACT YES. ON THE WETLANDS AND ON THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING. YES, I AGREE. WE DON'T HAVE TO ADJOURN THIS HEARING TO GIVE MORE COLORED AND DETAILED CHARTS. AND, AND MAY I SUGGEST THAT FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, IF YOU CAN, UH, POSSIBLY JUST, YOU KNOW, GIVE A MAP THAT RESPONSE THAT IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE IT AT THE END, THAT'S EVEN BETTER. UM, BUT IF NOT, YOU CAN ALWAYS DO THAT DURING THE COMMON PERIOD. GOT A FEW WEEKS TO DO IT, BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO DELAY THIS THING BASED ON, [00:50:01] RIGHT? MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A SLIDE. SORRY. THAT THAT'S OKAY IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SHOWS THE, YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU JUST PROCEED WITH YOUR ATION. HERE WE GO. THERE, THERE. YEAH, SORRY. SO AARON WAS JUST OPENING UP ANOTHER, UH, APPENDIX WE HAD WITH JUST SOME EXTRA SLIDES. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, YEAH, SEE THE ARC SHAPED BUILDING THERE. THAT'S THE APPROVED BUILDING. SO THIS OVERLAYS EVERYTHING. IT'S GOT THE OLD APPROVAL AND THEN THE NEW ONE. MM-HMM. AND ALL THOSE COLORS FOR THE BUFFER DISTURBANCE. SO YOU COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT THERE WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE WHERE IT'S CLOSER, UH, TO THE BUFFER RIGHT THERE. THERE'S ALSO A PATIO AREA THAT WAS PROPOSED, A LARGE PATIO IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. THAT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO SEE. IT'S KIND OF BELOW. MM-HMM. A SOUTH RIGHT THERE, RIGHT WHERE AARON IS RIGHT THERE. SO THERE'S A RETAINING WALL AND A LARGE PATIO AREA. SO WE WERE RIGHT UP AGAINST THAT WETLAND BOUNDARY PREVIOUSLY. WE'RE, NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BACK THERE, BUT A SMALL FOUR FOOT WIDE, UH, WALKWAY THAT KIND OF IS MORE LIKE A TRAIL THROUGH THE WETLAND BUFFER, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME BENCHES AND STUFF. SO THANK YOU. QUITE A BIT LESS. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT I FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH. OKAY. SO I FIND YOU FOR THAT. SURE, OF COURSE. UM, OKAY, SO WETLAND MITIGATION RESTORATION, UH, BEFORE WE START ON THIS SLIDE, JUST THE IMPORTANT POINT HERE IS THAT THESE WETLANDS ARE A RESULT OF PREVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTED STORMWATER PONDS. THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED WHEN THE SITE WAS DEVELOPED WITH ALL THE PARKING LOTS AND THOSE INITIAL BUILDINGS, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO. UM, AND LIKE MANY OF THEM DO, THEY SORT OF TURN INTO WETLANDS OVER TIME. UM, SO THE WETLAND ON THE LEFT IS, UH, HAS A LOT OF OVERGROWN VEGETATION, A LOT OF INVASIVE SPECIES, AND WE'RE GONNA CLEAN THAT UP. UM, PART OF THESE NOTES LISTED ON THIS SLIDE, WHICH WE'RE NOT GONNA READ 'CAUSE THEY'RE TINY, UH, THIS IS ON OUR PLANS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED, AND THEY GO THROUGH EXTENSIVE MITIGATION AND RESTORATION PROCEDURES, UM, THAT WILL BE, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE C A C, UM, AARON AND HIS STAFF AS WELL. UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE WETLAND CONSULTANT, BETH EVANS ASSOCIATES, WHO WENT OUT THERE TO REASSESS ALL THE WETLANDS, UM, AND MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THE REPORT HAS BEEN ISSUED AND A LOT OF THE INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE IS REFLECTED. JUST MINUTE PLEASE. UH, DAVID, UH, MR. GOLDEN WENT TO THE BEDROOM ROOM. AND DO WE HAVE A LEGAL CAR TO CONTINUE THIS MEETING? OR YOU CAN CON, YOU CAN CON YOU MAY CONTINUE. WE'RE NOT VOTING SO. SO THE GREEN AREAS IN HERE JUST TO ILLUSTRATE SOME, UH, WETLAND PLANTINGS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM, SOME NATIVE PLANTING MIXES AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING THEMSELVES. AND THE NEXT SLIDE DISCUSSES, UH, THE STORM WATER THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. SO THE WETLANDS ARE SHOWN IN GREEN, AND THIS IS ALL THE SURFACE STORMWATER PRACTICES. SO AS I MENTIONED, THOSE WETLANDS ARE TECHNICALLY STORMWATER PRACTICES. THEY RECEIVE THE RUNOFF, THEY TREAT IT, AND THEN THEY, UH, DETAIN IT AND THEY RELEASE IT. UM, SO WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THOSE, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR PURPOSE. UH, BUT WE ARE ADDING TWO NEW, UH, BIO RETENTION AREAS IN THE UPPER RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE NEW IMPERVIOUS AREA IS DUE TO THAT PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE. GENERALLY THAT AREA RIGHT NOW UP THERE IS GRASS AND WE ARE GOING TO OBVIOUSLY REPLACE IT WITH A PARKING GARAGE. SO THOSE TWO BUYER RETENTION AREAS WILL HELP TREAT AND PROVIDE RETENTION JUST TO, TO INFILTRATE SOME OF THE WATER, SLOW IT DOWN, AND THEN EVERYTHING AFTER THAT WOULD BE CONVEYED, UH, TO THE, TO THE STORMWATER PONDS, WHICH WE'LL SHOW IN, IN IN THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE ARE THE SURFACE OR JUST, SORRY, THESE ARE JUST SOME PHOTOS OF A TYPICAL BUYER RETENTION. SO WE, WE PROVIDED THESE TO THE BOARD BEFORE, BUT ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC JUST, UH, THE LEFT IMAGE IS A, IS A TYPICAL CROSS SECTION OF A BIO RETENTION, UH, PRACTICE WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, OF LANDSCAPING ON TOP MULCH, UH, A GRAVEL LAYER, THERE'S A PLANTING SOIL, BASICALLY THE WATER GOES IN HERE AND IT HAS TO FILTRATE THROUGH THE, THROUGH THESE LAYERS WHICH TREAT THE WATER. AND THEN THERE'S A PIPE SYSTEM ON THE BOTTOM, PERFORATED PIPES, LIKE AN UNDER DRAIN THAT YOU'D HAVE ON THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR HOME, AND IT TAKES THE WATER OUT. ANYTHING THAT'S TOO MUCH, TOO MUCH OF A STORM WOULD, WOULD FLOW OVER AND OVERFLOW. BUT THIS PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO TREAT THE WATER AND PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF, OF, OF RETENTION TO SLOW THE WATER DOWN AS WELL. SO THE RIGHT SIDE IS JUST A, A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO [00:55:01] THESE ARE THE SUBSURFACE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE. OKAY. THEY WERE THE SUBSURFACE PRACTICES. PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE ON ONE OF THE OTHER, UH, YOU WANT PRESENTATIONS MAYBE OPEN, YOU WANT TO TRY AND FIND IT IN THE APPENDIX. MAYBE IF YOU GO TO THE TEMPORARY, WELL, IT MIGHT BE IN THE APPENDIX TOO, BUT THAT TEMPORARY LAW, WE DID HAVE A SLIDE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THAT. HERE WE GO. THIS, THIS FOCUS ON THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT. BUT, UM, WHAT I WAS GOING TO ILLUSTRATE WERE THERE'S AN UNDERGROUND SUBSURFACE DETENTION SYSTEM PROPOSED. THERE'S WATER QUALITY STRUCTURES PROPOSED, AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE TREATMENT PRACTICES FOR THE PARCEL D PROJECT THAT, UM, WE'RE PROPOSING TO TREAT AND HOLD BACK THE STORMWATER RUNOFF, UH, DUE TO THE INCREASE. AND, AND THERE, THERE IS SOME INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS AREA. AND, UH, AND, AND THAT, THAT'S IT FOR THE PARCEL D UH, PORTION OF OUR PRESENTATION. CORRECT. MARK, IF YOU WANNA SUMMARIZE ANY THAT, THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. UH, FOR THE RECORD, MR. SUZUKI HAS JOINED US FROM REGENERON. AND, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MARK? YEAH, I JUST, YOU, YOU SAID THERE'S SOME INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. DO YOU MEAN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE? YES, YOU MISSPOKE. YES. THERE IS AN IN INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. OKAY. YES, WHICH IS LOCATED FOR THE MOST PART, PART WITH THE GARAGES HONOR. I, I JUST THOUGHT HE MISSPOKE AND HE ADMITTED THAT HE DID. OKAY. . OKAY. ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC IN REGARDS TO THIS APPLICATION? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL AUGUST THE 18TH. SO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? SO WE WILL, UH, KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL THE 18TH, AND THAT'S, AND WE'LL GO INTO THE NEXT ONE. BUT THAT'S WITH THE EXPECTATION OF COURSE, THAT THE TOWN BOARD, UH, CONDUCTS YOUR SECRET AND, AND, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WE MADE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE HEARING. RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THE NEXT, UH, ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PB 21, CODE NINE, AND THIS IS REGARDS TO THE PARKING LOT TEMPORARY PARKING. YOU CAN, YOU CAN KEEP THIS SHORT. THANK YOU, AARON. SHOULD I START OR GO FOR IT? WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT REALLY SHORT. SO AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, MARK WEINGARTEN PARTNER IN DELBELLO, DANELLE, AND WEINGARTEN WISE AND WHITAKER REPRESENTING REGENERON INC. IN CONNECTION WITH ITS REQUEST FOR STEEP SLOPES AND WETLANDS WATERCOURSE PERMIT APPROVALS TO ENABLE THE CONSTRUCTION OF CERTAIN TEMPORARY PARKING AND STAGING AREAS ON LOT TWO OF THE PROPERTY OWNED BY LOOP ROAD HOLDINGS. FIRST, I THINK FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RECORD, THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THIS WOULD BE TO REQUEST PERMISSION TO MOVE ALL OF THE CONVERSATION AND THE RECORD OF THE FIRST HEARING INTO THE SECOND HEARING SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT ANY OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE FIRST HEARING IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE BOARD AND COUNCIL AS ACCEPTABLE IS ACCEPTABLE TO COUNSEL. SO YES, IT IS. THEN YOU WILL NOT HEAR ME, UH, REPEAT ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SAY AS FAR AS BACKGROUND AND WE WILL JUST CONCENTRATE ON THE PARKING ISSUE ITSELF. UH, SO I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. THE TEMPORARY PARKING AND STAGING AREAS, WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH YOU PREVIOUSLY, UH, ARE LOCATED ON THAT PURPLE PARCEL ON THAT SITE THAT, UH, YOU SAW BEFORE ON THE, UH, SUBDIVIDED ONE OF THE SUBDIVIDED SITES ON THE LOOP ROAD HOLDING. UH, THE, THE RATIONALE AND THE REASON FOR, FOR THE TEMPORARY PARKING, UH, IS THAT THESE SPACES ARE NEEDED FOR TO DIS FOR THE DISPLACED SPACES THAT ARE GONNA BE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE ARE CONSTRUCTING ON PARCEL D OVER WHAT IS NOW EXISTING PARKING. SO THOSE SPACES, REGENERON WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE AND DURING THE CONSTRUCTION AND BEFORE THE BUILDING COMES ON, AND BEFORE MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE GARAGE IS FINISHED, THOSE BUILDINGS WILL BE DISPLACED AND WE NEED TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THOSE DISPLACED EMPLOYEES TOGETHER WITH THE VENDORS, CONTRACTORS, ET CETERA, THAT WILL BE THERE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING, UH, ET CETERA. SO WE NEED THOSE PARKING SPACES ON A TEMPORARY BASIS. THESE, AS YOU'LL BE SEEING, SEEING IN A MOMENT FROM STEVEN, WE'LL BE, UH, RESTORED LATER IN THESE AREAS. BUT, SO THIS WILL BE FOR THE PERIOD OF THE CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS THE STAGING AREA FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT'S THE RATIONALE BEHIND IT. SIMILAR TO THE FIRST WE APPEARED AT THE C A C WITH REGARD TO THE WETLANDS, UH, AND ON JULY 22ND THEY AGAIN GRANTED A POSITIVE, UH, RECOMMENDATION WITH [01:00:01] RESPECT TO OUR REQUEST IN CONNECTION WITH THE TEMPORARY PARKING AND STAGING. SO THAT'S ALL, UH, THAT I WILL DO. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STEVEN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, I'M SORRY. OKAY. DID YOU OPEN THE HEARING? NO, WE DIDN'T. YEAH, NO, WE DIDN'T NOT ARE ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. YOU MAY NOT. WHEN WE OPENED THE SESSION, WE OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION, SO WE JUST TRANSITIONED INTO THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. YOU'RE OPEN, YOU'RE OPEN, YOU'RE, THAT'S OKAY. SO WE'RE ALL SET. SO, SO AGAIN, STEVEN S PINA FROM J M C, UH, ALL YOURS. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS, UH, PARCEL HERE. SO, UH, AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, WE HAVE THE PROPOSED BUILDING IN TAN PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE FOR PARCEL D AND, AND, UH, THE, THE BROWN COLOR. UH, WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING NOW, THERE'S A GREEN LINE THAT THAT SPLITS UP THOSE BUILDINGS AND THE TWO RED SHAPES ON THE RIGHT, THAT'S THE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN PARCEL D AND LOOP ROAD. SO THOSE TWO RED SHAPES ON THE RIGHT THERE. UH, THE LOWER ONE IS A PARKING LOT OF 250 PARKING SPACES, AND THE UPPER ONE IS A TRAILER COMPLEX SLASH STAGING AREA. SO ALL THE CONTRACTORS, TRAILERS, UH, STAGING FOR MATERIALS, ET CETERA, WOULD BE IN THAT AREA. SO, UH, THE, THE PARKING LOT IS, IS LOCATED IN, UH, SOME STEEP SLOPES. UH, AND THAT'S WHY THAT IS BEFORE THIS BOARD, UH, TONIGHT. AND WE'LL, WE'LL EXPLAIN THOSE. SO THIS ZOOM, THIS ZOOMS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO THE TAN AREAS ARE THE PARKING LOT AND THAT TRAILER COMPLEX, UH, ON THIS LOOP ROAD PARCEL. UH, ANOTHER IMPORTANT ITEM TO NOTE ON THE LOWER PART OF THE, OF THE PLAN, THERE ARE THOSE BLUE LINES. AGAIN, THAT'S THE WETLAND BUFFER, UH, A DIFFERENT WETLAND NOW ON THE LOOP ROAD SITE. SO YOU CAN SEE WE RESPECTED THE BUFFER IN TERMS OF ANYTHING, UH, IMPERVIOUS PROPOSED. UM, AND WE'LL GET INTO, UH, THE SMALL AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE WE DO HAVE TO THOSE WETLAND BUFFERS. SO FIRST STEEP SLOPES, THIS IS THE SAME FILE WE SAW BEFORE. NOW, NOW WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE RIGHT SIDE, UH, WHICH IS THE TEMPORARY PARKING AND TRAILER COMPLEX. YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, SECTION OF STEEP SLOPES THAT GOES RIGHT DIAGONALLY THROUGH A PORTION OF THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT. UM, THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF STEEP SLOPES THROUGHOUT THE SITE AND THIS LOT JUST HAPPENS TO BE LOCATED IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS. SO, UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEFORE THIS BOARD FOR THAT STEEP SLOPES PERMIT APPROVAL. AND THEN WETLANDS, WE'LL SHOW YOU HERE. UH, THE GREEN SHADED AREAS ON THE BOTTOM REPRESENTS DISTURBANCE TO THE EXISTING WETLAND BUFFERS, AND THAT IS SOLELY FOR GRADING AND A STORMWATER PRACTICE. AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO PLANT, UH, MEADOW SEED MIXTURES AS WELL AS TREES WITHIN THOSE AREAS. THIS PLAN IS THE RESTORATION OF THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT AND TRAILER COMPLEX. SO ONCE THOSE ARE DECOMMISSIONED, THE AREA WILL BE GRADED OUT AT A, AT A GRADUAL SLOPE THAT'S MORE NATURAL THEN EVEN WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS. AND, UH, IT'LL BE PLANTED WITH A METAL MIXTURE OF, OF SEEDING. AND THEN SEVERAL TREES WILL BE POPULATED THROUGHOUT THAT AREA. UM, TRYING TO CREATE A, A, A NICE RESTORATION FOR THAT PORTION OF THE SITE THAT WOULD BE DISTURBED FOR THESE TEMPORARY PARKING LOTS. SIMILAR TO THE PARCEL D THIS INVOLVES A NEW IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT WASN'T PREVIOUSLY THERE. SO AGAIN, THIS REPRESENTS THE SURFACE PRACTICES. SO THERE ARE MORE OF THOSE BIO RETENTION AND STORMWATER PRACTICES LOCATED ON THE FRINGE OF THE, UH, NEW PROPOSED TEMPORARY AREAS THERE. UM, AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE ALSO SUBSURFACE UNDERGROUND SYSTEMS PROPOSED. UH, THESE ARE ABLE TO INFILTRATE THE WATER BASED ON SOIL TESTING WE'VE DONE. SO THERE WILL BE INFILTRATION, UH, PROVIDED IN UNDERNEATH THE, THE PAVED AREAS. AND, AND THE, THE REMAINDER OF THE GREEN, UH, LINES JUST SHOW THE PROPOSED CONVEYANCE PIPES, DRAIN INLETS IN THE PARKING LOT, ET CETERA. THAT WOULD COLLECT THE WATER AND IT WOULD BE PIPED TO WATER QUALITY STRUCTURES FIRST FOR TREATMENT, PRE-TREATMENT, AND THEN EVENTUALLY INTO THESE, UH, UNDERGROUND SYSTEMS. SO WE HAVE BOTH, UH, AGAIN, SURFACE AND SUBSURFACE STORMWATER PRACTICES FOR, UH, FOR THE STORMWATER MITIGATION HERE. AND THAT'S ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION FOR THE TEMPORARY PARKING. THANK YOU. AND I'D ONLY MENTION, AGAIN, THAT THE, UH, EMPHASIS BEING ON THE TERM TEMPORARY AND THAT THESE ARE ONLY FOR THE PERIOD OF CONSTRUCTION AND THEY WILL BE RESTORED TO THEIR NATURAL, UH, TO THEIR NA NATURAL, UH, BEAUTY. THIS IS THE, THE LOOP ROAD PROJECT THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF AND THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, IS ON THE OTHER SUBDIVIDED LOT. [01:05:01] THIS IS OPEN SPA. THIS IS AN OPEN AREA, AND THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF OUR PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN YOU SAY GONNA RESTORE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL, MEANING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO REVERT BACK TO THE SLOPES OR NO? NO. SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO RECREATE THE STEEP SLOPES, WHICH WE THINK IS BETTER. 'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES STEEP SLOPES ARE, UH, HIGHLY ERODIBLE AND UNSTABLE. UM, A LOT OF THE STEEP SLOPES IN THIS AREA, UH, BASED ON OUR SURVEY AND US GOING OUT TO DO SOME FIELD RECON, THERE ARE, THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES THAT HAVE EXPOSED ROOTS AND ARE KIND OF TIPPING OVER IN A LOT OF THE STEEP SLOPES. SO YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THAT BROWN AREA. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING IT AS, UH, TO THE LEFT OF THE BROWN AREA, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S, IT'S RELATIVELY FLAT AND THEN IT HITS THAT, UH, STEEP AREA AND IT GOES UP ABOUT 20 FEET THERE IN A SHORT DISTANCE, AND THEN IT SORT OF FLATTENS OFF AGAIN. UM, AS YOU GET UP TO THE TOP THERE. AND THEN THERE'S A HIGH POINT AT THE, UH, UH, AT THE RIGHTMOST KIND OF CORNER OF THE RED, UH, BOUNDARY THERE. RIGHT. THIS IS SORT OF A HIGH POINT OVER THERE. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING IT SORT OF FLAT AND THEN VERY STEEP AND THEN FLAT AGAIN, WE'RE JUST GOING TO GRADUALLY GO RIGHT THROUGH WITH A MORE NATURAL LOOKING, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT BASICALLY IT WOULD MATCH THE, WELL NATURAL, WHERE THE TRAILER COMPLEX IS LOCATED. IT'S A VERY, IT'S A VERY NATURALLY SLOPING MEADOW. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LOOK TO DO. THERE'S A LOT OF DEBRIS, UM, A LOT OF DEAD VEGETATION, FALLEN TREES, YOU KNOW, MIXED IN THERE AS WELL, THAT OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD ALL BE REMOVED AND CLEANED UP TO BUILD THIS. AND THEN ONCE THIS IS REMOVED, THEN WE WOULD COME IN THERE, GR IT OUT, PLANT THE MEADOW MIXTURE, AND THEN PLANT NEW TREES. UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY KIND OF, UH, DRAWINGS OR SOMETHING THAT, HOW IT COULD BE RESTORED LATER ON? BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAID NATURAL, I THOUGHT THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO BACK TO WHAT IS NOW, BUT NOW IT'S DIFFERENT NO. THAN WHAT IS A NATURAL NOW WE MEANT, SORRY, I'M, I'M UNDERSTAND. SO I, BUT UH, I MAY HAVE MIS MISSPOKE IF I SAID, GOING BACK TO NATURAL, IT'S GONNA GO BACK TO OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE AND NO LONGER DEVELOPED SPACE. EVENTUALLY IT'LL, THE METAL WILL GROW. LEMME ASK, LEMME ASK AARON. IS THERE A PLAN YES. LANDSCAPING WHEN IT'S GONNA BE RESTORED? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU YOU HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN TO RESTORE IT AFTER ALL THE PARK AFTER, YOU DON'T NEED THE PARKING LOT ANYMORE. RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S THIS PLAN UP RIGHT NOW. SO THAT ASKING SUBMITTED TO US, I THINK THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. YEAH. YEAH. AND, AND, AND IF YOU HAVE THAT SLIDE, WHICH IS, THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL, UH, IT IS THAT SLIDE. YEAH, IT SAYS IT IS THAT SLIDE THAT'S, IT'S, I I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THERE. SO THE, SO THE, SO THE RED LINES REPRESENT THE FUTURE RESTORED TOPOGRAPHY. YEAH. BUT WHAT IS HELPFUL WHEN YOU HAVE A CROSS SECTION AND YOU, AND YOU JUST, AND YOU SHOW WHAT IT WAS BEFORE AND THE STEEP SLOPE AND COMPARED TO WHAT IT IS NOW. OKAY. THAT'S USUALLY, THAT ANSWERS, THAT ONE PICTURE ANSWERS A WHOLE ARRAY QUESTION. WHAT'S ALL THOSE BLACK SQUIGGLY LINES? LET'S ASK FOR ONE QUESTION. WE CAN, WE CAN SUBMIT THAT DURING THE COMMENT PERIOD, IF THAT WORKS. WE'LL TAKE OF THAT. WHAT WHAT, WHAT ARE THE BLACK LINES ON THE TOP OF THAT SLIDE? THE REC, THE LONG RECTANGLES. YEAH, THOSE ARE THE PROPOSED TRAILERS. I THOUGHT THIS IS THE, I THOUGHT THIS IS THE SLIDE AFTER YOU'VE ELIMINATED THE PARKING LOT. IT, IT IS, BUT SO IT IS, BUT WE SHOWED WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE TEMPORARY BASIS, JUST FOR REFERENCE. SO YOU COULD SORT OF SEE WHAT, THERE'S AN OVERLAY OF THE PARKING LOT WITH THE PROPOSED NEW RENOVATION. RIGHT. IT'S THE FUTURE AND THEN THE FUTURE FUTURE. THAT'S, THAT'S CONFUSING. WE CAN DIVIDE IT UP. OKAY. IN THE SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION, IT WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU HAVE A CUTAWAY, IT SHOWS THAT, AND THEN YOU HAVE A CLEAN PICTURE OF, OF THE LANDSCAPING WITHOUT THOSE, THAT WILL JUST ADD TO THE CLARITY. OKAY. I HAVE ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION REGARDING THE, UH, SORRY. IT'S A, IS THIS THING IS, UH, HOW DOES IT FIT INTO YOUR LARGER MASTER PLAN AS, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE AREAS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING IN FRONT OF, YOU HAVE NO PLAN FOR ANY, UH, HAVE NO PLAN FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THEM. RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE GREEN LOT THAT WE SHOWED YOU. REMEMBER THERE WERE TWO SUBDIVIDED [01:10:01] LOTS ON LOOP ROAD, THE PURPLE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, AND THE GREEN, WHICH IS WHERE THAT MILLION SQUARE FEET IS. SO THERE IT IS. SO THE, THE ONLY DEVELOPMENT BEING PROPOSED ON LOOP ROAD RIGHT NOW IS IN THE GREEN, NOTHING ON THE PURPLE. WE'RE USING THE PURPLE FOR TEMPORARY PARKING AND STAGING BECAUSE WE COULDN'T FIT IT ON PARCEL D BECAUSE WE NEED IT IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUILDING OF THAT PROJECT. SO WHILE THAT PROJECT IS BEING BUILT, WE'RE USING THIS FOR TEMPORARY PARKING AND TEMPORARY STAGING, AND THEN IT WILL REVERT BACK TO OPEN SPACE. SO, SO IN OTHER, UH, IT IS, IT IS REMAINS WHAT WAS IN ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED. THAT'S CORRECT. THE, THE, THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED HAS THE MILLION SQUARE FEET ON THE GREEN PARCEL AND OPEN SPACE ON THE PURPLE PARCEL. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? YES, WALTER? I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY'LL USE THIS, UM, LAND FOR FUTURE PARKING WHEN THEY DEVELOP OTHER AREAS OF THE SITE THAT THEY HAVEN'T DEVELOPED. AGAIN, WE HAVE NO PLAN FOR THAT CURRENTLY. WE INTEND TO RESTORE IT TO ITS NATURAL STATE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T, I WE WE'RE NOT, UH, UH, WE, BUT WE HAVE NO PLAN FOR THAT CURRENTLY. I CAN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. IS IT FAIR TO SAY THANK YOU? IT, IT'S FAIR TO SAY IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT THAT'S THE SAME THAT YOU, THE THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN HAS NOTHING, UH, PLANNED FOR THE, THE, THE, THE, THE LOT TWO, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE IN PURPLE BEFORE YOU, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S STILL OTHER AREAS THAT YOU HAVEN'T DEVELOPED. SO MAYBE THIS IS AN AREA THAT COULD BE USED AGAIN FOR STAGING. WELL, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. YEAH. WELL, THE, THE, THE, THE POINT IS THAT WE APPROVED A MASTER PLAN AND THEY'RE BACK IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE, WELL, OF COURSE THEY HAVE ACTION PLAN, UH, THAT THEY HAVE TO GET THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND WETLAND PERMIT. BUT, BUT THE OTHER REASON WHY THEY'RE HERE, BECAUSE THEY'RE TWEAKING THE MASTER PLAN. SO THAT'S, BUT OTHER THAN THE TWEAKING OF THE MASTER PLAN, THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED. SO I, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, THIS THING, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, FORGET THE PARKING LOT, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PRIOR. UM, IS REGENERON ANTICIPATING BUILDING IT NOW OR IS THIS JUST GONNA BE AN ON THE SHELF APPROVAL, WHICH THEY'LL GET TO WHEN THEY NEED SPACE? I'M GONNA ASK BEN SUZUKI TO COME TO THE MIC. HI, I AM BEN SUZUKI, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF, COULD YOU SPEAK INTO, SORRY. SURE, APOLOGIES. UH, MY NAME IS BEN SUZUKI. I'M SENIOR DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FOR REGENERON. UH, AND I JUST WANT TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, IS THE QUESTION, COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? YEAH. THE QUESTION IS, IF AND WHEN THIS IS APPROVED, WHEN DO YOU START, WHEN DO YOU PLAN TO START BUILDING IT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING, THE TEMPORARY PARKING. NO, NO, NOT THE PROJECT. NO, THE, THE RESEARCH FACILITY. PARCEL D. RIGHT. YEAH. WE, WE, WE HOPE TO START AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I'M SORRY. WE, WE HOPE TO START AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND OUR GOAL IS ASSUMING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION. WE DON'T KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING A DECLARATION, UH, IN, UH, NEXT WEDNESDAY THE 11TH, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS, IS TO, UH, HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO BREAK GROUND THIS YEAR, UM, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANKS. YEAH. OKAY. UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, I ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC. IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL AUGUST 18TH. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UH, APPROVED. OH, I'M SORRY. JUST ANYONE, UH, AGAINST THE MOTION? NONE. UH, THEREFORE, UH, UH, THE RECORD SHOULD INDICATE THAT WE ARE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL AUGUST, UH, THE 18TH WITH THIS SAME PROVISOS THAT, UH, MR. WE GARDNER. SO, SO STIPULATED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC? UH, YES. PUBLIC HEARING SESSION? PUBLIC SESSION HEARING? YES, IT IS SOMETHING HONOR, I, I MAKE THAT MOTION. SECOND, THE PUBLIC HEARING. GO BACK INTO ONE. OKAY. UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND, CORRECT? YEAH, I DID. WE'LL NOW GO INTO THE WORK SESSION AND THE ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION [01:15:01] IS PPE 1 10 23. YES. AS CHAIRPERSON TIME INDICATED, YOU RIGHT THAT FINE PV 2110, NOT USED TO LOCATED AT 23 SPRINGWOOD AVENUE, PO HARTS, UH, I'M SORRY, ARDSLEY IN THE R 7.51 FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FOR A PROPOSAL INVOLVING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO CAR GARAGE, UM, AS WELL AS A FRONT AND REAR ADDITIONS TO THE EXISTING RESIDENCE. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEMOLISH EXISTING RETAINING WALLS AND STAIRCASES AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND TO CONSTRUCT A NEW TWO CAR GARAGE, A NEW STAIRWAY UP TO THE HOUSE, INCLUDING PLANTERS, AN EXTENDED FRONT ENTRANCE TO THE HOUSE, AND A RETAINING WALL, AS WELL AS A, A REAR ADDITION, UH, TO THE EXISTING HOME. THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE A DRIVEWAY ON ITS PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN, UH, I'M SORRY. THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR WHO HAS DETERMINED THAT THE FOLLOWING FIVE AREA VARIANCES ARE REQUIRED. ONE, A FRONT SETBACK, UH, TO THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING FROM 20 FEET REQUIRED TO 17.5 FEET. PROPOSED NUMBER TWO, AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SETBACK IN THIS CASE, THE GARAGE, UH, SETBACK TO THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING OF 10 FEET REQUIRED TO 3.666 FEET. PROPOSED NUMBER THREE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THIS CASE, THE GARAGE SET BACK TO THE SIDE YARD. GOODNIGHT, BARBARA. GOODNIGHT. THANK YOU. FROM 10 FEET REQUIRED TO ZERO FEET PROPOSED. SO THE GARAGE WILL REST ON THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. AND FOUR, UH, THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE COVERAGE IN THIS CASE. AGAIN, THE GARAGE FROM SIX FEET PERMITTED, UH, 6% PERMITTED TO SIX POINT 0.4% PROPOSED. AND LASTLY, UH, SITUATING AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THIS CASE, THE GARAGE IN THE FRONT YARD REQUIRES A VARIANCE. THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING TO FURTHER, UH, PRESENT THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? I GOT A QUESTION. YES? UH, IS THE GARAGE IN GREEN? THE GARAGE IS IN GREEN. OKAY. SO, UM, WELL, I'M NOT DONE, WALTER. WHAT? I LET THE APPLICANT NO, NO, NO, NO. WAIT A MINUTE, MICHAEL. AT LEAST THE APPLICANT PRESENT THE CASE AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA SAY. SO WHY DO YOU INTERRUPT ME? BECAUSE WE ALLOWED THE APPLICANT AND YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. MICHAEL, LET THE APPLICANT PRESENT THE CASE AND THE, AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTS THE CASE, YOU ARE FREE TO ASK, ASK ANY QUESTION YOU WANT. YOU MIGHT HAVE THE QUE A QUESTION, BUT THE PUBLIC DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE APPLICATION. SO THE APPLICANT HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT NOT ONLY FOR OUR BENEFIT, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT. SO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO EXPLAIN. OKAY, GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING. WHAT WITH THE PRESIDENT? HELLO? UM, MY NAME IS JOSIE PERES. IF YOU SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE, YOU CAN PICK IT UP IF, IF IT'S OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOSIE PERES AND I'M, UH, HERE WITH MY HUSBAND. WE'RE THE APPLICANTS FOR THIS, UH, PROJECT. AND I JUST HAVE SOME QUICK, YOU KNOW, SUMMARY OF THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO DO THIS PROJECT. UH, FIRST THE NEIGHBORS HAVE AN INCLINING. OUR NEIGHBORS RIGHT TO OUR LEFT HAVE IN AN INCLINING DRIVEWAY SIGNIFICANTLY INTO THE STREET. AND THEN TWO NEIGHBORS HAVE CAR CARPORTS. ONLY THREE HOUSES ON THE STREET DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PARK THEIR CARS. AND THEY PARK IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. ELISE'S, NO SPOTS FOR OUR CARS. WE HAVE A CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH OUR SEVEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER AND DELIVERY TRUCKS AND LANDSCAPERS DRIVING TOO FAST. UH, SO MANY TIMES THAT I, WE CANNOT COUNT, UH, ARE ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, OUR DOG GOT HIT BY A CAR, ONE OF THOSE CARS AS WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS BACK. BUT HE, THAT, THAT DOG IS A SURVIVOR, HE'S STILL ALIVE. OKAY. OUR CARS HAVE BEEN DENTED, SCRATCHED, SIDE SWEPT WITH NONE OF THE COMMER, WITH, WITH NONE OF THE COMMERCIAL AND LOCAL VEHICLES TAKING ANY RESPONSIBILITY. ACORNS HAVE COST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGES. AND WE DON'T WANT TO REMOVE TREES. WE WANT OUR EXTRA OXYGEN. TREES ARE VITAL. ADDING IN GARAGE BRINGS ADDED SAFETY AND LESS PROPERTY DAMAGE TO OUR FAMILY AND CARS. IT ALSO PROVIDES US WITH [01:20:01] A LITTLE EXTRA STORAGE FOR OUR HEAVY SANITATION RECEPTACLES. UH, YOU KNOW, I I E EXAMPLE, GARBAGE CANS. OUR NEW ENTRY DESIGN IS VITAL TO OUR PERSONAL SAFETY AND PRIVACY. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO OPEN OR USE THE WINDOWS IN OUR BEDROOM SINCE WE HAVE MOVED IN ABOUT 14 YEARS AGO. UH, THERE THEY'RE IN VIEW AND REACHING DISTANCE OF ANYONE WHO COMES UP OUR STAIRS AT ALL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DAY. SO WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO OPEN THOSE WINDOWS FOR ABOUT 13, 14 YEARS. UM, SO AND WHAT THEY, THOSE STAIRCASES COME TO OUR CHILD'S ROOM IN THE, AND THE SAME KIND OF SCENARIO THAT PLAYS OUT DAILY, CURRENT STAIRCASES NOW, TY AND PLAIN DANGERS, MY HUSBAND DOLE MYSELF AND A COUPLE DELIVERY PEOPLE HAVE SLIPPED AND FALLEN THERE AS WELL. AND THAT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE WANT TO DO THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, AFTER SO MANY YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND SO MANY ACCIDENTS IN SO MANY INCONVENIENCES. AND THAT'S WHERE WE, WE WANNA DO IT. THAT WAS GOOD. I, IF IT WASN'T CLEAR, ONE THING THAT I DIDN'T STATE IN MY OPENING REMARKS IS THE FACT THAT, UM, THERE'S NO OFF STREET PARKING ON A VERY NARROW STREET. UM, I BELIEVE MR. DESAI LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, AND PER, PERHAPS IF THE BOARD WANTED TO ASSIGN SOMEONE AS A REPRESENTATIVE TO GO OUT TO THE SITE, I'D BE HAPPY TO MEET HIM OUT AT THE PROPERTY. BE VERY GOOD. YEAH, I, I, I KNOW I KNOW THE STREET, BUT I THINK, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO COME AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN. SO YOU COMMIT TO TAKE ON LOOK AT IT. SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IN TERMS OF PROCEDURE, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY, ELSE TO SAY. I THOUGHT JUST MAINLY I, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE REASONS ARE PERSONAL AND SAFETY FOR MYSELF, MY FAMILY, YOU KNOW, EVEN NEIGHBORS, UH, IN THE, ON THE BLOCK AS WELL, AND THEIR PETS. AND JUST, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A GARAGE AND HAVE A SAFER HOME TO GO INTO EVERY DAY. WAS YOUR HUSBAND GONNA SAY SOMETHING OR HE IS JUST, UH, WAITING FOR QUESTIONS? HE, NO, GO AHEAD. I WAS, I WAS JUST GONNA GO TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THE STUFF. OH, WELL, YEAH, NO, FINISH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION. YEAH. OH, OKAY. UM, YEAH, YEAH. UM, NICHOLAS , UH, JOSIE'S WIFE, UH, HUSBAND SLY. LONG DAY. UM, YES. UM, ACTUALLY SOON AS WE FIRST MOVED IN, THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME KIND OF, UH, OUT OF TOWN POLICE OFFICER, LIKE, CAME RIGHT UP OUR STEPS, SHINED THEIR LIGHT RIGHT IN OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR BEDROOM WINDOW AND SCARED THE DAYLIGHTS OUT OF US. APPARENTLY THEY WERE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY WHO, FOR SOMEONE WHO USED TO LIVE IN A PLACE BUT DIDN'T, BUT STILL HAVING A, A, A DIRECT VIEW INTO OUR BEDROOM IS DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, INVASION OF PRIVACY ON OUR HALF. AND, YOU KNOW, WE FINALLY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO KIND OF LIKE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, REALLY WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS PROJECT. UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT IT IN THE GAR GARAGE WHERE WE'VE HAD $50,000 WORTH OF DAMAGE, UM, TO OUR CARS MINIMALLY, UM, FROM ALL THE RECENT JOSIE STATED. UM, OUR STEPS ARE TIMBERS, PRESSURE, TREATED TIMBERS, AND OUR, UM, STAIRCASE IS CURRENTLY NON-PRESSURE TREATED TIMBERS. UM, AND DURING SNOW STORMS, WHEN THE ICE FORMS ON A ROOF, THE WATER COMES DOWN AND PUTS SHEETS OF ICE ON THE STEPS. UM, AND THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF SALT THAT WILL TAKE THAT OUT. AND NO DR UH, CLEANING OF THE GUTTERS WILL, WILL FIX THAT. AND IT, I HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN THE STAIRCASE FOR, YOU KNOW, WEEKS AT A TIME IN THE WINTER. THIS YEAR I HAD TO SHUT IT DOWN FOR THREE WEEKS. SO WE HAD NO ACCESS TO OUR FRONT STEPS. SO REBUILDING LIKE THAT SAME STYLE STEP IS JUST NOT GONNA WORK. SO WE HAVE TO ENCLOSE THE, THE STAIRS AND KEEP IT AWAY FROM THE ROOF. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A TWO AND A HALF FOOT VARIANCE IN THE FRONT ENTRANCEWAY. UM, AS FAR AS THE GARAGE GOES, UM, WE HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE ON THE LEFT TO, TO HAVE THE PROPER DEPTH, TO HAVE A, A PROPER GARAGE AND TO, TO ACTUALLY FIT A CAR IN THERE. UM, AND WE HAVE TO GO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS GONNA BE ONE FOOT, UM, WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE. IT'S NOT GONNA BE RIGHT ON IT. IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT A FOOT AWAY TO GIVE ACCESS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA SPACE FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, BUFFER. AND THE REASON WHY IT'S ON THAT SIDE ALSO IS THAT WE NEED A ENTRANCEWAY TO THE BACK, UM, BACKYARD. AND THAT PATIO RIGHT NEXT TO THE GREEN BOX, WHICH IS THE GARAGE, IS THE WALKWAY TO GO TO THE BACKYARD. SO, UM, PUTTING THAT THERE IS GIVING US ACCESS TO THE BACKYARD WITHOUT, IF WE MOVE THE GARAGE AT A DIFFERENT SPACE, WE [01:25:01] WON'T HAVE THAT ACCESS. OKAY. YEP. SO, ARE YOU FINISHED WITH PRESENTATION? YES. SORRY, YOU HAVE NO QUESTION. AARON, WHEN, WHEN WOULD WE BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, IF ANY, TO THE, UH, Z B A REGARDING THE VARIANCES? UM, SO MY THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT THIS PROJECT IS PRESENTED TO YOU THIS EVENING. I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE VARIANCES. UH, MY, IF THE BOARD HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY REQUESTS FROM THE APPLICANT, IT WOULD TAKE THOSE BACK. THEY DO HAVE AN ARCHITECT, BUT HE COULDN'T, HE OR SHE COULDN'T BE HERE THIS EVENING. SO I WAS PREPARED TO COMPILE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT WE WOULD GET A RESPONSE FROM THE ARCHITECT, AND THEN AT A FUTURE MEETING, CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD. I THINK, I THINK, LOOK, I, I THINK EVERYBODY HERE IS SYMPATHETIC WITH THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL. I THINK WE NEED MAYBE SOMETHING FROM THE ARCHITECT. OKAY. EXPLAINING THE RATIONALE FOR EACH OF THE VARIANCES. UM, I MEAN, I CAN'T LOOK AT THIS WITH MY GLASSES. I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, SIDE YARD SETBACK, 10 FEET REQUIRED, HE WANTS ZERO FEET. WELL, THAT SOUNDS DRAMATIC, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR IT. SO WE NEED, I, I THINK WE SHOULD GET FROM THE A ARCHIVE, I DON'T THINK WE NEED NECESSARILY FOR HIM TO BE HERE IN PERSON, BUT WE NEED TO GET HIS RATIONALE FOR EACH OF THESE FOUR OR FIVE VARIANCES, YOU KNOW, AND WHY, WHY, WHY THEY'RE NECESSARY. AND I TAKE IT THAT THIS IS A TIGHT LOT. I THINK IT'S 7.5, RIGHT? YES, I GOT THAT. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT I, I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF, PLENTY OF PLENTY OF HOUSES, YOU KNOW, WEDGED IN HERE AND THERE. YEAH, IT'S A SANDWICH. I, I GOT THAT. SO, AND THE Z B A WON'T KNOW ANY OF THIS. SO THE Z B A HAS TO BE INFORMED WHY THESE VARIANCES, WHICH LOOK LIKE A LOT ON THEIR FACE, BUT I'M SURE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT WHY THEY'RE, WHY THEY'RE, SO WOULD A WRITTEN RESPONSE BE PREFERRED, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH EACH VARIANCE ONE BY ONE? WELL, YEAH, JUST RESPOND. WELL, I MEAN, THESE FOLKS GONNA BE HERE ON WORK SESSION AGAIN. CAN I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT ACTUALLY. I THINK I CAN PUT 'EM ON A PHONE IF THEY COME. WELL, WE WANT THAT NOW. I WANT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THERE'D BE ANOTHER WORK SESSION, UM, WITH THE ARCHITECT, UH, OR ENGINEER PRESENT TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THE PLAN. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. HAVE, HAVE YOUR ARCHITECT, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. HAVE HIM PUT SUMMARIZE IN WRITING WHERE EACH OF THESE VARIANCES ARE NECESSARY. MM-HMM. , THEN HAVE HIM COME AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION TO EXPLAIN IT AT THAT WORK SESSION. WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE DBA REGARDING THESE VARIANCES, WHICH IS GONNA BE TO YOUR BENEFIT, I'M TELLING. RIGHT? YEAH. EVEN IT'S A, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT IT WAS FIVE VARIANCES THAT WERE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR. I THOUGHT IT WAS THREE. THIS STUFF HAPPENS. ANOTHER THING YOU COULD, UH, DECK ADDRESS, UH, WHY, UH, YOU PUT IN A TWO CAR GARAGE AS OPPOSED TO ONE CAR GARAGE BECAUSE YOU PUT IN, UH, IN A ONE CAR GARAGE, SOME OF THOSE VARIANTS WILL GO AWAY, BUT AT LEAST GIVE THE LOGIC YES. FOR GIVEN THAT. SURE. YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT'S ONE, ONE OF THE POINTS IS THAT IF THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT TODAY OR TODAY EXTENT, A TWO WILL BE REQUIRED. SO, RIGHT. SO BY LEAST GIVE A RATIONALE WHY, WHY YOU ARE APPLYING FOR A GARAGE WITH TWO SPOTS INSTEAD OF ONE. SO I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. DO SAID, AT LEAST IF WE HAVE THE EXPLANATION OF THE LOGIC, THEN WE'D BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BLOCK. CAN IYE? YES. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHERE'S THE DRIVEWAY? UH, THE GREEN, THE GREEN BOX. OH, THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY. THERE WOULD BE NO DRIVEWAY. YOU'D PULL STRAIGHT INTO THE GARAGE. FROM WHERE? FROM THE ROAD. ON THE STREET. FROM THE STREET? YES. THERE'S NO, IT'S RIGHT ON THE, ON THE LINE ON THE LEFT. SEE IF YOU SEE PROPERTY LINE, THE GARAGE IS ON TOP OF THE, THE STREET. YES. UH, LET ME ASK A QUESTION. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION FROM MR. SCHWARTZ. TYPICALLY THERE'S SOME RIGHT OF WAY BETWEEN THE EDGE OR THE CURB OF THE STREET AND THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE. YES. SO WILL THERE BE SOME PAVEMENT, [01:30:01] YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE ENTRY TO THE GARAGE, EVEN IF IT'S ONLY A FEW FEET? I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION. YEAH. WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THE FACT YOU HAVE THAT EXISTING DECK BEHIND IT. IS THERE SOME REASON AND YOU REMOVING THAT DECK? NO, THAT'S REMAINING. IT SAYS EXISTING DECK. OH, REMOVING THE BACK DECK. NOT THAT ONE. YOU IT DOES, YOU COULD, THERE'S NO WAY OF MOVING THAT GARAGE BACK A LITTLE BIT OFF THE STREET. I THINK, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE THREE FEET TO PLAY WITH. WELL, UNLESS YOU TOOK OFF THAT I HAVE TO HAVE TO TAKE OUT A TREE TO DO THAT. THE OTHER OPTION IS, WOULD BE TO TAKE OFF PART, PART OF THE DECK. RIGHT. THAT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN. AND WE REALLY ENJOY THAT SPACE FOR THE PICTURE, FOR THE I KNOW YOU DO. I IT'S A TOUGH SITUATION. UM, BUT THE STREET IS ALSO DOWN ON PEOPLE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET. NOW THERE, THERE'S PEOPLE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET, PEOPLE PARKING ON OUR SIDE. UM, YEAH, I, THE WHERE WE ARE, THE STREET WIDENS UP A BIT. IT GETS, IT'S, IT'S BOTTLENECK AT, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, BUT WHERE WE GET IT GETS A LITTLE WIDER. THE THING IS, YOU'RE NOT GIVING YOURSELF ANY CLEARANCE THE BACK TO COME OUT OF THAT GARAGE NECESSARILY. IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE TWO CARS IN THERE, THE SAY, HOW WIDE IS THE GARAGE? 25. 24 FEET. 24 FEET. CARS ABOUT NINE, EIGHT TO NINE. I THINK THAT'S ON, THAT'S ON THE OUTSIDE. 24. YOU HAVE TO OPEN THE DOORS TOO. YEAH, YEAH. NO, WELL, YOU'RE ALSO, YOU. YEAH. YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOME OF THE ONE OFF FOR THE DOORS FROM ON AS WELL. UM, RIGHT. BUT WHAT IF THEY DID, UM, TWO CARS, ONE BEHIND THE OTHER, AND THEY DID A LONGER GARAGE, LOSE THE DECK, THEY LOSE THE DECK, AND A LOT OF EXCAVATION AND DISTURBANCE TO THE, UM, ROCK LEDGE THAT'S THERE. WE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND WE THOUGHT WE COULD TRY TO DO IT, AND TOO MANY PEOPLE TOLD US WE COULDN'T. TOO. RIGHT. BUT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE, UH, WHAT I SEE IN THE SECTION TO BUILD THAT GARAGE. I THINK YOU'RE GONNA IMPACT PART OF THE DECK ANYWAY. YOUR EXISTING DECK IS NOT GONNA REMAIN THERE BECAUSE YOU ARE CUTTING INTO THE, INTO THE SLOPE. SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CUT THAT AND KEEP STILL THE DECK IN TECH THROUGH WHAT THE PILLARS THAT ARE IN PLACE WITH THE DECK? UM, I OVERSEE, I OVERSAW THE PROCESS OF IT. AND, UH, THEY, THEY WILL NOT BE DISTURBED WHERE THE PILLOWS ARE. THE DECK IS A COUPLE FEET OVER, YOU KNOW, UH, WHERE, WHERE THE CONCRETE, UM, SUPPORTS ARE. RIGHT. AND IN THE BACK WALL, THE GARAGE WILL FUNCTION AS A RETAINING WALL. IT'S A RETAINING WALL AND SUPPORT STRUCTURE ALONG WITH THE STORMWATER AND, AND ALL THAT. I LIKE TO COME AND LOOK AT IT AND YEAH. COME BACK. SURE. THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT WHOLE GARAGE, SO YEAH. I I'M NOT SURE YOU LIVE ON THE CORNER OR YEAH, WELL, I CAN TALK BY IT. I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT WILL HELP THE BOAT, IF YOU HAVE A, A, UH, ANOTHER DIAGRAM THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHERE THE ROAD ENDS AND HOW MUCH, UH, HOW MUCH PHYSICAL SPACE THERE IS FROM THE CURB TO THAT GARAGE THERE, THERE'S NO CURB. WELL, FROM THE ROADWAY. FROM WHAT? FROM THE ROADWAY? THERE'S NO CURB. IT'S A RETAINING WALL. NO, NO, I THE STREET. NO, THERE, HE'S REFERRING TO THIS PICTURE. THERE'S NO CURB FROM THE ROAD. THE DISTANCE FROM THE RIGHT UP FOR THE ROADWAY, THE RIGHT HE'S GONNA BE IN LINE WITH TO GARAGE. AARON, AARON, ONE OF THE REASONS I, IF I CAN PASS THESE AROUND, I THINK HE'LL BE HELPFUL. CAN GET THE G I S MAP AND SHOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT I CAN, THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE ROADWAY. AND WHAT I COULD PROBABLY SHOW IS AN AREA, UH, A STREET VIEW, IF WE TAKE A MINUTE AND WHATEVER, IF YOU COULD, WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH YOUR, HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT WHERE THE ROADWAY END AND WHERE THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE IS. SURE. THIS IS, AND HE, AND THIS GENTLEMAN DID SEND ME, UH, AN EMAIL, BUT THIS ISN'T MY LAPTOP, SO I CAN'T ACCESS THIS. UM, A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN, YOUR HONOR. NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW. BUT THAT'S INFORMATION. IS IT FURTHER DOWN, UH, FOR MR. GOLDEN'S QUESTION? NO, DOWN, DOWN FOR MR. GOLDEN'S QUESTION WHY WE WOULD WANT A, UH, TWO CAR GARAGE. UH, WE HAVE TWO VEHICLES AND I ALSO HAVE A MOTOR SCOOTER. UM, SO YEAH, THIS IS WHERE THE GARAGE WOULD GO. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD GO. BUT MY IMPRESSION IS THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE, WHERE WOULD IT END? YEAH, IT WOULD BE JUST BEHIND THE, UH, RETAINING WALL THERE. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE THE GARAGE [01:35:01] WOULD, UH, OKAY. ARE YOU MOVING THE STAIRCASE ALSO? THE STAIRCASE IS GOING TO BE REDESIGNED TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE SAFER. UM, THESE STEPS ARE, ARE DANGEROUS. THEY'RE NOT EVEN LIKE A REGULAR STEP HEIGHT. YEAH. UM, THEY'RE JUST BASICALLY, UM, A, UH, SIX BY EIGHT TIMBERS. RIGHT. BUT ARE THEY, IS IT GONNA BE IN THE SAME LOCATION OR ARE YOU MOVING IT TO THE LEFT? OF COURSE, THE, ON THE DIAGRAM, UH, ON THE PACKET THAT I SENT THE BOARD, YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE STEPS ARE NEW. YEAH. THE STEPS ARE GONNA BE GOING TO THE SIDE OFF, BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE, THE STAIRS GO RIGHT INTO THAT, THAT WINDOW. AND THAT'S OUR BEDROOM WINDOW. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE SAID. AS YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT GOES UP THERE, WE CAN NEVER HAVE THAT. EVERYTHING HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, OUR, UH, BLINDS HAVE TO SHUT IT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE EVERYBODY LOOKS INTO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU WALKING IN, YOU SEE, IF YOU SEE A WINDOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY LOOKS RIGHT. AND THE CURRENT STAIR SYSTEM'S GOING TO ENTER AT THE BOTTOM ON A, I GUESS A BASEMENT LEVEL FIRST FLOOR WHERE THERE'S NO BEDROOMS OR BATHROOMS. YEAH. WELL, I, I THINK, UH, AND I THINK THAT'S THE BUILDING , WE UNDERSTAND, UH, THE HARDSHIPS THAT YOU FACED WITH NOT HAVING IN THE GARAGE, BUT WE NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND WE, UH, UM, UH, TO SUPPLY TO US. AND THAT IS GIVE OUR RATIONALE FOR ALL THE, UH, VARIANCE. I'LL GIVE THE RATIONALE FOR WHY YOU WANT A TWO CAR GARAGE VERSUS A ONE CAR GARAGE. PROVIDE US WITH A, A DIAGRAM THAT SHOWS, UH, UH, THE DISTANCE FROM THE ROADWAY TO THE DISTANCE TO THAT YOUR GARAGE. I THINK PROVIDING US WITH THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION WILL PUT US IN A BETTER PLACE TO, UH, RESPOND TO THE APPLICATION. BY THE WAY, LOOK, THAT'S FAR WHAT WALTER SAYS, BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHY YOU NEED A TWO CAR GARAGE BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS TWO CARS. EVEN IF YOU LIVE ALONE, YOU HAVE TWO CARS. YEAH. AND SCOOT. AND, AND IF THERE ARE TWO OF YOU, YOU HAVE 2.3 CARS. IF THERE ARE THREE OF YOU, YOU HAVE 3.5 CARS. RIGHT. AND YOU DON'T WANT A TANDEM SITUATION BECAUSE IF YOU ARE IN THE FRONT AND YOU GOTTA LEAVE, YOU DON'T WANNA ASK YOUR WIFE TO MOVE THE CAR OUT. I MEAN, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, BUT FINE. TELL US WHY YOU NEED A TWO CAR GARAGE. THAT'S FINE. TO ANSWER ALL'S QUESTION, THAT'S FINE. THEN WE HAVE IT ON THE RECORD. SURE. YOU, YOU WANT A IN RESPONSE. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. YOU ON THE RECORD, COULD YOU, I ONLY HAVE A QUESTION. YEAH. I DID GET A, MRNAS HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THE MEETING AND DID SEND ME A TEXT JUST TO ASK, AS IS CUSTOMARY OF THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, IF YOU'VE CONTACTED YOUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS TO FIND OUT IF YOU KNOW, A, THEY'RE AWARE OF THE PROJECT B, DO THEY POTENTIALLY SUPPORT IT? UH, HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMMUNICATION TO THIS POINT? YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT WE DID. UM, ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS WERE PRETTY CLOSE KNIT. WE HAVE EACH OTHER'S PHONE NUMBERS, TEXT MESSAGES, WE SPEAK, YOU KNOW, FREQUENTLY. UM, I LET MY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR KNOW TO THE RIGHT ABOUT THE PROJECT WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE PROJECT FOR A FEW YEARS AGO. AND HE, HE AND SHE CURRENTLY KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET PERMITS TO GET THIS, UH, PROJECT GOING. RIGHT. WHERE THAT, UH, TO YOUR RIGHT IS I SPOKE TO THEM, I SPOKE TO MY NEIGHBORS ON THE LEFT, SPOKE TO MY NEIGHBORS IN THE BACK, SPOKE TO, I SPOKE TO EVERYBODY. YEAH. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORLY DISTANCE ACROSS THE STREET, BOTH SIDES. IF YOU HAVE ANYONE THAT'S SUPPORTIVE AND WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT THAT IN WRITING, NOT ONLY COULD IT HELP THE PLANNING BOARD, I THINK IT WOULD ALSO HELP YOUR ZONING BOARD APPLICATION. SURE. 'CAUSE THAT'S CERTAINLY GONNA COME UP. I CAN ASK THEM FOR I GUESS, STATEMENTS. IS THAT GOOD? THAT SAYS THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF A, THE OTHER THING, ERIC OKAY, WILL DO. YEP. DID YOU CHECK TO SEE IF THERE'S A, A RIGHT AWAY TOWN RIGHT AWAY FROM THE STREET? WE WILL CHECK THAT, PLEASE. I THINK RIGHT NOW THE TOWN'S FIGURING OUT IF IT'S A PRIVATE STREET OR PUBLIC STREET, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIG, UH, THING. FIGURE THAT OUT. THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. YEAH. YEAH. WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, GET IT REPAVED. , JUST A QUICK QUESTION. YES. SO ALL OF THE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE ARCHITECT, WE COULD SEND IT TO AARON. YEAH. LIKE EVERYTHING. OKAY. YES. AARON AND MATT. OKAY. AARON. AND, UH, YEAH, OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 1ST. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK PROCEDURALLY. UH, A LOT OF TIMES IF THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE ZONING BOARD ARE INVOLVED, THERE'S A MATTER OF LEAD AGENCY FROM A SEEKER STANDPOINT. IN THIS CASE, BOTH THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, WHICH IS BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE AREA OF VARIANCES, BOTH QUALIFY AS TYPE TWO ACTIONS. MM-HMM. . SO IF THE BOARD MAKES THAT FINDING EACH BOARD, UH, INDEPENDENT OF ONE ANOTHER [01:40:01] WOULD MAKE THAT FINDING, AND THEREFORE THERE'D BE NO FURTHER SEEKER PROCESS REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT. AT WHAT, AT WHAT POINT DO WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? DID THIS, THIS MEETING OR THE NEXT MEETING? NO, THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE SUFFICIENT. 'CAUSE I THINK THEN YOU'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION IN HAND TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON THAT. OKAY. UM, IF, I'M SORRY, UM, JUST MOVING FORWARD, UM, SO THERE, THERE WILL BE NO MACHINES IN THE GROUND COME THE END OF THE SUMMER. THEN WITH, UH, WITH THIS, WE HAVE TO, UH, RE REVISIT. UM, IS THERE ANY WAY TO, UM, THIS MEETING, WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN AUGUST. RIGHT. AND, AND HAVE YOU MADE YOUR APPLICATION TO THE ZONING BOARD AS OF YET? YES, YOU HAVE. DO YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE ON THEIR AUGUST AGENDA? I DOUBT. I'M NOT SURE. PROBABLY NOT. UM, SO THE PLANNING BOARD'S NEXT MEETING IS SEPTEMBER 1ST, ALL GOES WELL. I THINK THE BOARD MAY, MAY BE IN A POSITION TO ISSUE ITS RECOMMENDATION ON THE FIRST. OKAY. AND THEN IF YOU ARE ON THE ZONING BOARD MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO WALK IN HAND TO THAT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS WHAT THE ZONING BOARD'S GONNA BE LOOKING FOR. SO, OKAY. SO IF WE COULD GET THAT, ALL THOSE, ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED FAIRLY QUICKLY, THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, HELP THAT PROCESS ALONG THEN, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. I WOULD SAY 0.2 TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS WE OWE TO YOU, THAT PUTS YOU IN A POSITION THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT NIGHT. SURE. IF THE INFORMATION IS MISSING, THEN IT IS JUST GONNA DELAY THE PROCESS. OKAY. AND, AND WE'D BE LOOKING FOR THE SUBMITTAL BY ROUGHLY THE 18TH, SO TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. ALL RIGHT. I'LL TRY TO GET IT TO YOU ASAP. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND JUST CHECK THAT YOUR, UH, YOUR PROFESSIONAL CAN MAKE THE SEPTEMBER 1ST MEETING. YEAH, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YEAH, BECAUSE I, YOU CAN ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS. ONE LAST QUESTION. SURE. SO, UH, THE PROCESS WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 18TH FIRST. FIRST IF IT'S RECOMMENDED, THEN YOU WOULD MOVE TO A TOWN MEETING? NO, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEN IF IT GOES TO, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE ZONING BOARD, BUT THE ZONING BOARD IS THE 18TH. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN YEAR ZONING THEY HAVE. THEY ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH OUTSIDE OF AUGUST AND DECEMBER. WE MEET TWICE A MONTH. NO, THE 18TH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AUGUST 18TH TO GET US THE MATERIAL. WE WOULD LIKE TO GET ALL THE RESPONSE. THEN YOU CAN MEET WITH US ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, AND HOPEFULLY ON SEPTEMBER 1ST WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. RIGHT. WHICH GETS TO THEM THE NEXT DAY. AND WHENEVER THEY HAVE THEIR MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, THEY'LL HAVE THAT RECOMMENDATION. RIGHT. YOU'LL APPEAR BEFORE THEM. AND, AND THEN IT'S UP TO THEM AS, AS THAT, AND TO MOVE FORWARD TO START. OKAY. HOLD ON. SO LET ME FINISH. SO ONCE THE ZONING BOARD ISSUES, ITS DECISION ON THE VARIANCES. IF THAT'S FAVORABLE, YOU DO HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD FOR A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THIS, ALL THE DECISIONS ARE MADE. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S A, IT'S A LONG PROJECT, SO, UM, IT'S A BIT OF A ROADMAP. UH, WE CAN, YOU CAN TALK WITH YOU. WE'LL CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH YOU. WE CAN, YEAH. THANK YOU OUT FOR YOU ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. YOU TOO. THANK YOU. UM, THAT'S THE ONLY THING ON THE AGENDA, I WOULD, UH, UH, GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR A SHORT PERIOD TO EXPLAIN, UH, A LEGAL MATTER BEFORE, UH, ON BOARD. OKAY. SO WHAT YOU WANNA DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. UH, WE WILL NOT COME BACK AFTERWARDS. THERE DON'T, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY ACTION TAKEN. UM, AND THEN WE WILL, UH, AFTER THE MOTION, WE WILL SHUT OFF, UH, THE TV AND, UH, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. NOW, HOWEVER WE TREAT MON CAN STAY ON THE PHONE. WE'LL VOTING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION . OKAY. WE'LL JUST SECTION, JUST CLOSE THE DOOR AND, AND, AND, YEAH. BUT FIRST YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY. CLOSE IT. ALRIGHT. SECOND. I, I MOVE THAT WE GO ON EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE LEGAL DATA. YEAH. AND ALSO TO, UH, NO, NO, JUST, NO, JUST THE DISCUSS THAT. DO YOU. SECOND. SECOND. ALL AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S TAKE A TWO MINUTE BREAK. WE SHUT OFF OUR MICS AND EVERYTHING. YEAH. TWO MINUTE BREAK. OKAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.