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UH, TODAY IS, UH,[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]
AUGUST 24TH AT 4, 4 30.ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I JUST MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, MARK WINEGARTEN IS HERE AND I TOLD HIM, I JUST CALL HIM, YOU KNOW, FIRST, UH, IN TERMS OF THE DRONE WAR, UM, WE WOULD BE VOTING ON A PILOT AGREEMENT ON, UM, SEPTEMBER 8TH, IS IT? AND, UM, UH, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE OF THE LAST MINUTE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE MEMBERS, THE BOARD WANTED A LITTLE TIME TO REVIEW.
THEY ALSO THOUGHT THAT, UM, UM, IT WOULD MAKE, YOU KNOW, SENSE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC TO HAVE SOME NOTICE.
BUT I WANTED TO WRITE A LETTER TO, UM, THE STATE YESTERDAY.
I WANTED TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE STATE, UM, BASICALLY INDICATING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE INTENDING TO, UH, VOTE ON THIS ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.
UM, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE, YOU KNOW, HOUSING, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THE EDGEMONT SECTION OF, UM, YOU KNOW, OF TOWN.
AND THE EDGEMONT SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
SO, UM, AS PART OF YOUR APPLICATION, YOU, YOU, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THE LETTER WOULD GO OUT TOMORROW, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THANK YOU FOR DOING, WE APPRECIATE THIS.
FOR THE RECORD, MARK WEINGART ON BEHALF OF WILDER BALTER PARTNERS, WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE LAST MINUTE.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE CAME BEFORE YOUR BOARD WITH RESPECT TO THE PROJECT.
WE WERE TASKED WITH SPEAKING TO THE EDGEMONT SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH REGARD TO THE PILOT.
WE HAD THREE SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HER TEAM, AND WHICH FINISHED WITH A LETTER, UH, ON FRIDAY WAS WE RECEIVED THE LETTER ON FRIDAY.
WE MUST PUT OUR APPLICATION IN BY THURSDAY, WHICH IS THE REASON FOR THE, WE'VE ASKED FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE TOWN SUPERVISOR SINCE THE BOARD IS NOT VOTING IN AN OFFICIAL MEETING ON IT, STATING THAT IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA ON THE EIGHTH.
AND THEN WE WILL BE, UH, DRAFTING IN MY COMMUNICATIONS WITH YOUR TOWN ATTORNEY, A PROPOSED PILOT AGREEMENT, UH, WHICH WE WILL DELIVER A DRAFT OF THIS WEEK THAT YOU'LL HAVE THEN.
AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT VOTED ON AT THE SEPTEMBER 8TH MEETING SO THAT IT CAN BE FORWARDED TO THE STATE IN CONNECTION WITH OUR APPLICATION TO SHOW THAT WE'RE COMPLETE AND READY AND, AND APPROVABLE FOR FUNDING.
SO IF THAT MEETS WITH THE TOWN BOARD, WE'D APPRECIATE THIS LETTER TO GO IN THIS WEEK WOULD JUST NOTIFIES THE STATE THAT IT WILL BE VOTED ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE PROHIBITED FROM COMMUNICATING WITH THE STATE OF NEW YORK AFTER WE PUT IN OUR APPLICATION ON, THERE'S A BLACK ON, THERE'S A BLACKOUT PERIOD.
SO AGAIN, THIS SOUNDS VERY STRANGE, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO THEM AFTER THE 26TH OF AUGUST.
SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS LETTER TO GO IN WITH OUR PACKAGE NOW.
AND WE WOULD ASK YOU AFTER IT'S DONE ON, UH, THE EIGHTH, IF YOU DO APPROVE THE PILOT THAT YOU WOULD FORWARD IT ON TO THE STATE AND LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN PASSED WHEN WE HAVE A COPY OF THE DRAFT PILOT SO THAT WE CAN
WE, WE, WE TODAY WAS WHEN WE WERE STARTING THE DRAFT, SO, WE'LL, WE'VE PROMISED TIM AND EDEDIE THAT THEY'D HAVE IT BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK.
AND WE'RE PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
WE'RE GOING TO USE THE, UH, ONE THAT WAS DONE FOR TARRYTOWN AS THE FORMAT FOR WHAT WE'RE USING.
OBVIOUSLY WE'LL FILL IN THE NUMBERS AND THE FACTS THAT ARE DIFFERENT, BUT WE'LL USE THAT AS THE FORM.
YOU SENT EVERYBODY A DRAFT OF THE LETTER.
THEN AN HOUR GO, JUST SOME CORRECTIONS.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS AN UNINCORPORATED AREA OF FUND.
UM, UNINCORPORATED THE TOWN REFERRED TO AS THAT.
AND ALSO IT SAYS THAT WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON A PILOT IF WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SEEN THE PILOT YET.
IT'S HARD TO PUT SPECIFICITY INTO THE LETTER AND THERE IS SPECIFICITY IN THE LETTER.
SO IF YOU WANT TO, UH, EDIT IT, THEN WE'LL TAKE, GET IT OUT.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER YOU CAN GIVE US.
BUT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM YOU INDICATING THAT WE DO ANTICIPATE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN REFLECTING THOSE FINANCIAL TERMS, SO THAT WHEN THEY ARE EVALUATING OUR PROJECT FOR APPROVAL, THEY WILL KNOW THAT WHAT THEY CAN ANTICIPATE UNDER IN THE UNDERWRITING, SO THAT OF WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT THE IT TO BE, SO THAT THE SUBSIDY THAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS GOING TO ACTUALLY TURN INTO APARTMENTS.
'CAUSE THESE ARE VERY COMPETITIVE FUNDS.
IT'S JUST, AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T HAVE A LETTER GO WITH DETAILS OF SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T SEEN YET BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL FINISHING THE DRAFT OF THE PILOT, CORRECT? WELL, I, I THINK ALL WE REFERRED TO WERE THE VERY GENERAL TERMINOLOGY OF WHAT'S IN THE SCHEDULE, WHICH I THINK WE ALL HAVE AGREED.
WHICH IS WHAT WE SHARED WITH THE EDGEMONT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
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THOSE WOULD BE THE TERMS OF THE PILOT.THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE LETTER.
SO WE COULD TURN AROUND LIKE ANY EDIT CHANGES LIKE TODAY.
TOMORROW, 'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING IN BY THURSDAY, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANNA SAY? I JUST WANTED TO ADD REALLY QUICK.
WELL, THE ONLY THING IS JUST TAKE, USE THE MIC.
I RAN OVER HERE QUICKLY, MARK.
SO I WASN'T SURE, UM, IF YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT I HAD A MEETING WITH THE BOARD, SCHOOL BOARD AND, UM, THEY'RE FULLY AWARE OF THE PROJECT AND CONCEPTUALLY THEY AGREE WITH IT.
THEY STILL WANNA SEE THE DETAILS OF THE PILOT, OF COURSE, AS YOU DO.
SO, I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH THIS AS WELL.
DOES THE FIRE DISTRICT ALSO HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THIS? NO, THEY DO NOT.
WILL THE PILOT IMPACT THEM AS WELL? YES, IT WILL.
SO SHOULD WE AS LIKE A COURTESY, JUST, UH, LET THEM KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DETAILS BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'RE GONNA SAY WE'RE KEEPING ONE OF THE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES OUT OF THE LOOP.
IF THAT IS A POLICY THAT IS GOING TO BE SET BY THE TOWN BOARD, THEN WE WILL, UH, GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
WE'VE NOT DONE, YOU HAVE NOT DIRECTED ME TO DO THAT YET.
UM, IN ANY OF THE PILOTS IN THE PAST 16 YEARS, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS SPEAKING WITH THEM.
AREN'T WE PAYING THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS? RIGHT? YOU ARE ON TOP OF THE, SO WE'RE NOT, I THINK THEY'RE GETTING THE SAME MONEY.
NO, NOT ON TOP OF, UM, FIRE DISTRICTS ARE NOT LOOKED UPON AS SPECIAL DISTRICTS WITH REGARD TO THESE AGREEMENTS.
I I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY SHOULD BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE.
WE SHOULD LET ALL THE JURISDICTIONS KNOW.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, OPPOSITION.
UH, BUT I FEEL THAT, UH, IF WE LET, IF WE DON'T LET THEM KNOW, WE'LL BE CRITICIZED.
AND IF WE DO LET THEM KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, THEN NOBODY COULD SAY LATER ON, WE KEPT THEM IN THE DARK.
WE HAVE NO OBJECTION WITH YOU NOTIFYING THEM.
WE'D APPRECIATE IF THE LETTER COULD GO OUT AND IF WE COULD GET A VOTE ON THE, ON THE EIGHTH.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE THE AGREEMENT HERE, BUT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO YOU TELLING EVERYBODY.
IN FACT, I'M SURE THERE'S, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING ON THE EIGHTH.
EVERYONE'S INVITED TO PARTICIPATE, RIGHT? I THINK THIS IS GOOD.
SO MAYBE YOU COULD LET THEM KNOW TODAY OR TOMORROW.
SO NEXT, UH, WE HAVE THANK YOU.
OKAY, NEXT, UH, WE HAVE THE FOUR CORNERS, UH, UPDATE FROM, UH, GAR DUANE, COMMISSIONER OF PLANNING.
GOOD AFTERNOON, SUPERVISOR, FINER AND TOWN BOARD MEMBERS.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, IS WALK THE BOARD AND, AND, AND, AND THOSE WATCHING THROUGH A SERIES OF, UH, EXCITING IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED IN THE FOUR CORNERS AREA.
AND, UH, WHEN I SAY FOUR CORNERS, I WANT TO EXPAND THAT REALLY TO, UM, NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION, SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION AND INCLUDE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE, UH, TRAIN STATION THERE.
AND THEN UP WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
SO WE'VE GOT A SERIES OF GRAPHICS AND PHOTOS TO, UH, WALK US THROUGH A LOT OF THESE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATIVES THAT ARE, THAT ARE ONGOING.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO START WITH IS WHAT'S PLANNED AT THE INTERSECTION OF CENTRAL AVENUE AND LAWTON AVENUE, WHICH IS A HAWK SIGNAL.
AND, UM, I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE A, A PHOTO HERE OF A STREET VIEW OF THAT INTERSECTION.
AND I CAN TELL YOU IN SITE VISITS WITH NEW YORK STATE, D O T, UH, GOSH, COUNCILMAN SHEEN WAS THERE, UH, MAYBE NINE
UM, WHAT DID WE SEE? WE SAW A PEDESTRIAN COME UP TO THE, TO THE, UH, INTERSECTION THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE, UH, IN THE CROSSWALK.
AND WHAT OCCURRED WAS, UM, ZERO CARS WOULD STOP FOR THAT PEDESTRIAN.
AND, UM, IT WAS JUST OUTRAGEOUS.
I THINK WE WITNESSED, UH, FOUR TICKETS DOLED OUT IN A PERIOD OF, UH, LESS THAN THREE MINUTES.
UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE PEDESTRIANS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, SO VERY UNFORTUNATE OCCURRENCE THERE.
AND, UH, MORE, MORE UNFORTUNATE.
WE ALL, I PICKED THE WRONG TIME TO DO THAT
AND MUCH MORE UNFORTUNATE IS THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENT THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF MM-HMM.
UM, JUST A DEVASTATING ACCIDENT.
UM, SO SINCE THAT TIME, A LOT OF PLANNING HAS OCCURRED.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN SHEEN HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL WORKING WITH THE STATE.
WE'VE GOT A, UH, MULTIMODAL $160,000, UH, GRANT THAT'S, UH, WE'RE IN CONTRACT WITH.
AND WHAT I WANT TO JUST UPDATE THE BOARD AND THOSE WATCHING IS THAT, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE ENGAGED IN SERVICES OF A K R F WHO HAVE DESIGNED WHAT'S KNOWN AS THIS HAWK SYSTEM.
AND I'M GOING TO, UH, JUST WALK YOU BRIEFLY THROUGH WHAT THAT, UH, WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO AT THAT INTERSECTION, REPLACING THAT CROSSWALK AND THE SIGN, UH, WOULD BE A SERIES OF PEDESTRIAN CALMING MEASURES.
AND IN THE SCREEN HERE, IF YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHAT
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YOU HAVE IS AN ACCENTUATED, UH, BULB OUT.SO THE CURB, UH, AT THAT, WHERE THAT CROSSWALK EXISTS, WOULD, WOULD BUMP OUT ON EACH SIDE OF CENTRAL AVENUE.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT REDUCES THE DISTANCE THAT THE PEDESTRIAN HAS TO WALK.
SO IT FUNCTIONS AS SORT OF A, A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE, IF YOU WILL, BRINGS HIGHER VISIBILITY TO THE PEDESTRIAN.
THEN ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD WHERE YOU SEE THESE LINES, UH, SORRY, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR.
YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A MASS ARM AND A SIGNAL.
UM, AND I'M GONNA TAKE US TO THE NEXT SHEET.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS HAWK SYSTEM IS.
SO IN BOTH THE NORTHBOUND AND THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION, UH, THERE WOULD BE THIS SIGNAL THAT'S ACTIVATED BY THE PEDESTRIAN.
SO THE PEDESTRIAN COMES TO THE INTERSECTION, HITS THE BUTTON, THE YELLOW LIGHTS START FLASHING, THE RED LIGHTS START FLASHING, AND IT BRINGS IMMENSE VISIBILITY TO THE FACT THAT A PEDESTRIAN WANTS TO CROSS HERE AND ESSENTIALLY FUNCTIONS FOR ALL LANES TO STOP.
AND WHAT HAPPENS, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSES SAFELY.
AND, UH, IT, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT AS SAFELY OF A SYSTEM AS, AS, AS EXISTS OUT THERE.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE AT THE STAGE WHERE, UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH BIDDING.
WE'VE GOTTEN THREE BIDS AND, UM, THE DESIGN'S APPROVED BY NEW YORK STATE, D O T.
AND I WILL SAY IT'S GOING TO BE, I'D LIKE TO USE THE WORD RACE, BUT WE ARE GONNA RACE THE BID AGAINST TIME TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS INSTALLED BEFORE THE WINTER MORATORIUM OF THE STATE, WHICH I BELIEVE, UH, IS TYPICALLY RIGHT AROUND THANKSGIVING.
THEY ANNOUNCED THAT DATE SOMETIME LATER IN THE YEAR.
BUT YOU WILL SEE A RESOLUTION, UH, ON THE FIRST SEPTEMBER TOWN BOARD MEETING AWARDING THIS CONTRACT TO THE, TO THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.
AND, UH, WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO, TO NOTE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON, ON THIS IMPORTANT INITIATIVE.
IF I, IF I COULD JUST MENTION THE, THE ADVANTAGE OF THE HAWK SYSTEM AS OPPOSED TO THE, UH, FLASHING YELLOW BEACON, WHICH WORKS WHERE IT WORKS, UH, BUT NOT HERE.
THERE ARE MAJOR BUSES THAT GO ALONG HERE, SOME IN TANDEM.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT IF THE BUS IS IN THE RIGHT LANE AND A CAR IS GOING NEAR THE CENTER LINE, SOMEBODY COULD STEP OUT ONTO THE CROSSWALK AND THE CAR THAT'S GOING ALONG NEXT TO THE BUS WILL NEVER SEE IT, NEVER SEE THAT PERSON.
WHEREAS THIS, THE ARM COMES OUT OVER THE HEIGHT OF THE BUSES AND ACTUALLY DRAWS THE ATTENTION TO EACH OF THE LANES SO THAT THEY'LL COME TO A STOP IF THEY'RE NOT STOPPING THIS TIME.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL NOTES THERE.
UH, THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS IS THE CENTRAL AVENUE SIDEWALK.
THIS IS THE, UH, FIRST OF TWO, UH, TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM GRANTS THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG SECURED.
AND, UH, THIS SIDEWALK, UH, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN HERE IN GREEN, I'M GONNA ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, AS, AS MANY KNOW IS, IS UNDERWAY AND IT'S PROBABLY 75% COMPLETE.
UH, THIS, THIS, I WILL SAY THERE
UM, IT IS NOTHING SHORT OF A MINEFIELD ONCE YOU GET BELOW GRADE WITH, UM, THE VARIOUS UTILITIES.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY I THINK IT, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.
UH, WE, WE ALREADY SEE INCREASED USAGE AND, UH, LIKE ONLY PORTIONS ARE FINISHED AT THE MOMENT.
I JUST GIVE YOU A COUPLE PHOTOS HERE.
UH, I WANT TO NOTE IN THIS PHOTO HERE, UH, THE SPECIAL CARE THAT WAS TAKEN ACROSS DRIVEWAYS, UH, TYPICALLY YOU WILL JUST HAVE THE SIDEWALK TERMINATE DRIVEWAYS WITH A, UH, A D A, UH, CURB RAMP.
IN THIS INSTANCE, WORKING WITH THE STATE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE AGREE IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK EXTEND ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY TO GIVE HIGHER VISIBILITY TO THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN.
UH, ALSO IN THIS PHOTO, JUST, JUST QUICK NOTE, UH, THIS IS WAS A LOCATION WHERE WE WORKED WITH THE UTILITY COMPANY TO MOVE THE POLE, UH, FORTUNATELY AT THEIR COST PUBLIC PROJECT, BUT IT JUST ADDS TIME AND, UH, IT, IT'S
UM, I THINK I HAVE MAYBE ONE MORE PHOTO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS, OVER FOUR MONTHS, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, ALSO IN THIS OTHER PHOTO, NOT NOT SHOWN, UH, ONCE WE GET CLOSER TO THE FALL, THERE WILL BE LANDSCAPING.
SO, UM, NOT ONLY IS IT A SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, THE THE AESTHETICS OF THE AREA SHOULD BE IMPROVED ONCE THERE'S, UH, THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING IN.
UM, THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO, UH, AGAIN, TO SHOW YOU HOW, WHAT, WHAT'S PLANNED AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING IS CONCERNED.
A SERIES OF SHRUBS AND, AND SHADE TREES.
AND WE, WE DID WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, UH, THEY DON'T WANT A SCREEN OF EVERGREEN TREES TO BLOCK THE VISIBILITY OF THEIR BUILDING.
SO WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO, UH, WORK, WORK CLOSE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
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FOR THE SHORT NOTICE.UH, THERE WAS ONE ISSUE THAT, THAT HAS, UH, RECENTLY ARISEN AND IN THE AREA OF THE FOUNTAIN DINER, UH, AND, AND, AND, AND THE FURNITURE STORE JUST BEYOND IN THE TWO DRIVEWAYS THERE, THERE'S THIS, UH, PIPE THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY DETERIORATED, UM, AND WHAT HAS OCCURRED.
AND SO THE, THE IT IT'S ACTUALLY BLOCKED OFF, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THIS, BUT THE FE THIS, THIS DRIVEWAY'S ESSENTIALLY BEEN RENDERED NON-USABLE.
AND THAT'S BY VIRTUE OF, OF A PIPE THAT WAS DETERIORATED.
WE HAVE RESEARCHED IT, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IN ABOUT 1948, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG INSTALLED THIS PIPE, UM, PER NEW YORK STATE D O T REGS.
UH, IT IS ACTUALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAINTAIN THEIR DRIVEWAYS, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, DRAINAGE STRUCTURES, UM, ACTUALLY, AND THIS, THIS AREA IS IN, IN THE STATE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WE DID APPEAL FOR THE STATE FOR SOME FUNDING, AND THEY, THEY JUST ABSOLUTELY SENT US THE REGS AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER'S, UM, RESPONSIBILITY.
UH, SO WE, WE, WE, WE HAD A QUOTE ON, ON, UH, FROM OUR CONTRACTOR ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO REPAIR THE PIPE AND PUT A, A NEW STRUCTURE.
SO WHEN I SAY REPAIR THE PIPE, IT'S DETERIORATED IN FRONT OF THE FURNITURE STORE HERE AND FOR A STRETCH HERE IN FRONT OF THE DINER.
AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE PORTION, THERE'S A DRAINAGE STRUCTURE.
WE DID GET A QUOTE, UH, FOR $99,000 TO FIX THE WHOLE THING.
UH, THE
AND WE THINK THAT THAT'S A FAIR POSITION BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, UM, YOU JUST, YOU ALMOST CAN'T BUILD A SIDEWALK WITHOUT FIXING THIS.
SO WHERE THIS LEADS US TO NOW IS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TWO PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, IN THE SPIRIT OF FAIRNESS, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO, UH, WORK FROM A COST SHARE PERSPECTIVE AND, UH, KIND OF HAVE A ONE-TO-ONE MATCH TOWN PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER MATCH.
AND I THINK WE'RE THERE WITH THE DINER.
UH, WE'RE NOT THERE AT THE MOMENT WITH THE, UH, UH, FURNITURE STORE, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
BUT I WILL SAY, UM, IT, IT, WITHOUT THIS SIDEWALK PORTION, THE PROJECT WILL NOT BE DEEMED A FULL SUCCESS.
SO WE ARE APPEALING FOR TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZATION FOR THE ADDITIONAL ROUGHLY $100,000 TO EXECUTE THIS.
AND IN THE INTERIM, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO, UM, HAVE THAT COST SHARE, UH, ESTABLISHED.
AND WE HAVE THE REGULATIONS FROM NEW YORK STATE TO BACK US THERE.
BUT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, AND IF THIS DOES GET NOT GET DONE NOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE GOOD FOR, FOR, FOR
SO, UH, AND ALSO OF NOTE, UH, WE DID RUN THE BUDGET AND WHERE ARE WE AT? ARE WE OVER BUDGET? UNDER BUDGET? UH, WE ARE PROJECTED TO BE $30,000, UH, UNDER BUDGET ON A $1.518 MILLION PROJECT.
SO, UM, SLIGHTLY GOOD NEWS,
SO, UH, I AM APPEALING FOR AUTHORIZATION TO, UH, HAVE THESE FUNDS SO THAT WE CANNOT TURN THE CONTRACTOR LOOSE ON THIS SECTION.
AND AGAIN, WORK PROACTIVELY, HOPEFULLY WITH THE, UH, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.
IS THAT, THAT'S THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS THE COST OF THAT TO FIX THE ENTIRE THING? INDEED.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY A DRAINAGE STRUCTURE REPAIR AND FIX THE DRIVEWAY.
AND, AND THEN IF WE GET ANY MONIES BACK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REPAY SOME OF THAT, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY JUST GO INTO THE TOWNS GENERAL FUND AND OFFSET THOSE COSTS.
AND THAT, THAT BUDGET ABOUT $500,000 IS A GRAND FROM THE STATE, THE CENTRAL AVENUE, I'M SORRY, THE CENTRAL AVENUE PROJECT, ABOUT 500,000 OF THE 1.5 OR 1.8 MILLION WAS FROM THE STATE? UH, NO, ACTUALLY, UH, IT'S ABOUT $800,000, UH, FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING, UH, $250,000 SAM GRANT AND, UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE TOWN.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD AUTHORIZE THE CONTINUATION OF THE PROJECT AND, UM, BASICALLY EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T WANT TO GO INTO A 50 50 MATCH WITH US, IS TO ENFORCE THE CODE, WHICH SAYS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS A HUNDRED PERCENT RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, AND WE PUT A LIEN AGAINST THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO RECOVER THAT MONEY.
AND WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HOLD UP A MAJOR PROJECT LIKE THIS BECAUSE THERE'S A COLLAPSING PIPE UNDER THEIR DRIVEWAY.
AND UNDERSTANDABLY, THE CONTRACTOR DOESN'T WANT TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT WILL COLLAPSE BECAUSE OF COLLAPSING PIPE.
THERE'S NO, UM, THERE'S NO UNDERSTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT WHAT THEY WOULD BE BUILDING AND IT WOULD BE A WASTE OF MONEY.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY, MY SUGGESTION.
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I'LL PUT THAT IN A FORM OF A MOTION.IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, FRANCIS, COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THE MOTION? IS THAT THE TOWN AUTHORIZED THE CONTINUATION OF THE PROJECT, THE, UH, SIDEWALK ON CENTRAL AVENUE, UH, UM, UM, AND EXPEND THE MONIES NECESSARY IN ORDER TO FIX THE, UH, PIP IN QUESTION AND THEN, UM, SEEK REPAYMENT FROM THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS ONE, WHICH IS ALREADY AGREED, THE OTHER WHICH HAS NOT.
AND IF THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO DOESN'T AGREE TO A 50 50 MATCH, WE THEN SEEK A HUNDRED PERCENT MATCH BASED ON THE CODE, A HUNDRED PERCENT REIMBURSEMENT BASED ON THE CODE.
AND, UH, I, I THINK THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT APPROACH WITH TOWN ATTORNEY TIM LEWIS, WHO, UH, IS VERY SUPPORTIVE, SO THANK YOU.
THE THIRD IMPROVEMENT, UH, THAT I I IS, IS IN THE PLANNING STAGES, UM, THAT YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF, BUT IT'S, IT'S IN THE VICINITY AND IT REALLY SHOWS ALL THE PUZZLE PIECES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER HERE, UH, IS THE NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE SIDEWALK, AND THAT'S SYMBOLIZED ON THE MAP AS BOTH THE BLUE AND THE, UH, YELLOW PORTION AND JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, FOR THE VIEWER.
AND JUST TO REFRESH THE BOARD, UH, WE, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, WE DID, UH, FILE A, A GRANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, UH, THIS LAST GO ROUND.
AND, UH, WE APPLIED FOR $250,000, WHICH THE TOWN BOARD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THE RESOLUTION TO MATCH THAT.
SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, THEY'VE, UH, COMMENTED ON OUR, ON OUR APPLICATION, GIVEN US SOME, UH, GOOD WORDS ON IT AND HAD HAD SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE.
I FEEL CONFIDENT WE'LL GET THE GRANT.
SO WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS, UM, UH, FILL IN A, A, A VITAL GAP ON NORTH WASHINGTON AND ALSO, UH, IMPROVE THE EXISTING PATHWAY THAT'S TO THE, UH, NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE, UM, HOUSING AUTHORITY.
AND I KNOW THAT'S A PROJECT THAT COUNCILMAN JONES HAS, UM, TALKED TO US ABOUT FOR YEARS.
AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST GLAD THAT WE COULD REALLY, UM, GET THERE.
AND I, I, I FEEL CONFIDENT WE'LL GET THE GRANT.
SO, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE SECOND PIECE OF THAT IS THE YELLOW.
AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO NOTE THERE IS WE'RE HAVING THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT PUT TOGETHER A COST STRUCTURE, UM, AND A DESIGN FOR THE YELLOW PIECE, UH, AS THE BOARD KNOWS, I THINK IT WAS SEPTEMBER, 2019, UH, THAT, THAT THE TOWN BOARD DID A SIDEWALK WITH, WITH MANY RESIDENTS.
AND WE WALKED ESSENTIALLY FROM TRADER JOE'S ALL THE WAY TO, UH, WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
AND THAT WAS A GOOD WALK, AND I THINK THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, SAW THE NEED FOR THAT SIDEWALK.
SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS COME BACK TO YOU WITH, WITH, WITH A COST ESTIMATE, UM, TO REALLY SEE IF WE CAN GET A SCALE OF ECONOMY, UH, WHEN WE GO TO BID, IF WE GET THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF AN AD ALTERNATE WOULD BE THE YELLOW PIECE TO GET IT TO TRADER JOE'S.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT COST STRUCTURE PUT TOGETHER AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S REASONABLE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER FAWN AND, AND PUT THAT INTO A D P W CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST.
SO, SO WHEN WOULD YOU THINK THAT, UH, THE FIRST, UH, SIDEWALK WOULD BE BUILT? WOULD THAT BE NEXT YEAR? WELL, IT, I THINK THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, BLOCK GRANT CYCLE WILL BE ANNOUNCED BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.
SO IF WE DO HEAR THAT, UH, WERE SUCCESSFUL, UM, I WOULD SAY THE BLUE SECTION CERTAINLY WOULD BE ON OUR RADAR, ON THE TOWN'S RADAR TO CONSTRUCT, UH, IN 2022, WITHOUT A DOUBT.
BUT WE WANNA BE PROACTIVE AND, AND JUST GIVE THE FULL PACKAGE OF WHAT IT WOULD ENTAIL TO DO, UH, THE ADDITIONAL SPAN, UH, TO TRADER JOE'S.
AND, UM, IT COULD BE AN ADD ALTERNATE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THE PRICING COMES IN WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HOPE IT WOULD BE, UM, IT'S, IT'S FILLING MORE OF, OF A KEY GAP.
SO, UH, I WOULD SAY 2022 TAR TARGET FOR SURE.
UM, UH, NUMBERS FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX ARE, ARE ACTUALLY, UH, I WANNA THINK ABOUT IN A PACKAGE, AND I'M GONNA DISCUSS WHY IN JUST A MOMENT.
UH, IT, IT'S A PACKAGE OF, OF, OF AN UPCOMING TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM, UH, GRANT THAT, UH, THAT WE ACTUALLY STARTED TO FILE, UH, PRE-APPLICATION WITH THE STATE, BUT I'LL, I'LL WALK THROUGH THAT IN A MINUTE.
BUT NUMBER FOUR IS IDENTIFIED AS THE WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE SIDEWALK, AND, UH, I GOTTA SAY SUPERVISOR FINER, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE, UH, CHANGE.ORG, UH, PETITION THAT WAS THAT YOU WORKED ON.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SAW FIRSTHAND THE VOLUME OF RESIDENTS THAT SEE THE VALUE IN A SIDEWALK ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
AND GOT, I I I, I WANNA SAY THAT THE SIGNATURES ARE LIKE OVER 1200 DID ABOUT 1200.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID, I IDENTIFY THIS SPAN OF WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE FROM FOUR CORNERS UP TO, UH, PAT CAPONE, UH, ROAD AS, AS, AS REALLY LIKE MAJOR ARTERY IN THE TOWN AND GAP, UH, FOR A SIDEWALK.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY, I FEEL LIKE BASED ON, UH, ENGINEERING FEASIBILITY AND WHERE THE PROPERTY LINES EXIST, UH, FOR THE MOST PART IT MAKES THE SENSE TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THUS FAR, UH,
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UP TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S THE INTERSECTION OF SEACOR ROAD.AND THEN I THINK MAINLY BASED ON, UM, PROPERTY BOUNDARY CONSIDERATIONS, THERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE A CROSSWALK AT THE INTERSECTION THERE, AND THEN THE SIDEWALK WOULD EXTEND, UH, UP TO PAT CAPONE ROAD.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FILLING IN A GAP TO, UH, TWO PRIVATE AND ONE PUBLIC SCHOOL MAJOR CAMPUS GREENBURG CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND OBVIOUSLY TOWARDS FOUR CORNERS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONNECTION THAT WOULD BRING RESIDENTS TO, YOU KNOW, THIS MAJOR ARTERY OF THE TOWN, CENTRAL PARK AVENUE FOUR CORNERS.
SO, UM, THERE'S SO MANY, YOU KNOW, LOCAL FEEDER STREETS THAT WOULD BENEFIT.
UM, I, I PERSONALLY THINK FROM A SIDEWALK PERSPECTIVE, UH, THAT YOU COULD NOT GET MORE, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD, BANG FOR, BANG FOR YOUR BUCK, UH, IN TERMS OF QUALITY OF LIFE OR VOLUMES OF RESIDENTS THAN THIS SPAN.
SO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING IS, UH, A TAP GRANT APPLICATION TO NEW YORK STATE, AND THE ROUND WAS JUST ANNOUNCED, UH, ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO, AND IT'S THE SAME GRANT THAT I JUST MENTIONED.
WE ARE SUCCESSFUL, UH, FOR CENTRAL PARK AVENUE, THE TAP GRANT.
AND JUST QUICKLY OF NOTE, WE'VE GOT THE HILLSIDE AVENUE, THAT'S TAP GRANT NUMBER TWO, THAT THE TOWN IS SUCCESSFULLY RECEIVED MILLION DOLLARS THERE.
UM, BUT IT'S 80%, 20%, MEANING 80% COVERED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, 20% COVERED LOCALLY.
UM, THIS SIDEWALK, UH, MAJOR SIDEWALK AND TRICKY, UM, LONG ABOUT A MILE.
SO WE ESTIMATE THE COST OF THIS SIDEWALK TO BE ABOUT 3.8 MILLION, UH, FROM A CONSTRUCTION PERSPECTIVE AND WITH THE LOCAL AID PROJECT, UH, THE SOFT COSTS ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
SO, UM, IT, IT, THE COST IS EXTENSIVE, BUT, UM, AGAIN, IT'S, SO THAT ABOUT 5.1 MILLION TOTAL.
UM, AND FROM AN 80 20 PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD MEAN, UH, ONE POINT, UH, I BELIEVE TWO FIVE TOWN MATCH, AND THE REST WOULD BE GRANT.
SO, UM, WE, WE, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE SUBMITTED THE PAPERWORK, UH, ON THAT PROJECT TO NEW YORK STATE, AND THEY HAVE A PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS.
AND, UM, WE WILL HEAR BACK, UH, MORE AUGUST 31ST ON WHAT THE STATE THINKS OF, OF THAT PRELIMINARY APPLICATION.
BUT THAT, THAT APPLICATION, UH, WHEN I NOTED THAT THERE WERE THREE COMPONENTS, UH, THE OTHER TWO COMPONENTS ARE ON THE MAP, FIVE AND SIX, AND, UM, FIVE IS IDENTIFIED AS THE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
AND WHAT THAT ENTAILS IS A K R F, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN WORKING FOR THE TOWN ON THIS AREA AND ALONG THE WHOLE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE CORRIDOR FROM THE TRAIN STATION, BASICALLY UP TO, UH, WILSON, A K F HAS DESIGNED A SERIES OF CONCEPT IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UM, WOULD ESSENTIALLY BRING GREATER PEDESTRIAN SAFETY TO THE AVENUE.
AND, UM, THEY REALLY PIGGYBACKED ON A LOT OF THE WORK THAT THE, UH, I GUESS THE HARTSDALE NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION, UH, PEDESTRIAN COMMITTEE, WE MET WITH THEM, UH, THEY IDENTIFIED, YOU KNOW, DRIVER AGGRESSION, UM, CROSSWALK ISSUES, AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH POLICE AND, UH, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL ACCIDENTS THERE.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A, UH, A BRIEF, UM, IDEA OF, OF WHAT, WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL IS, I DO HAVE ONE GRAPHIC, I JUST WANNA SHOW ONE, ONE INTERSECTION HERE.
UM, AND WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS, IS, IS COLUMBIA AVENUE INTERSECTION, AND THIS WAS DESIGNED BY A K F, BUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS IN GREEN WOULD BE A NEW SIDEWALK AND CURB SPACE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S THAT WHOLE, UH, PEDESTRIAN CALMING, PEDESTRIAN REFUGE, UM, DESIGN.
SO, UH, I'LL MOVE MY CURSOR HERE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS FIRST A ON THE LEFT, BRINGING THE CURB OUT CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION SO THAT PEDESTRIAN IS MORE VISIBLE, THEY'RE BEYOND THE CAR, AND THEN THEY WOULD CROSS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU DON'T SEE IS WHERE THIS, UH, LIME GREEN IS, THAT'S ALL PAVEMENT RIGHT NOW, AND CARS KIND OF GO WHERE THAT SPACE IS.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFINING THAT SPACE WITH A CURB TO MAKE IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
AND, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE, FROM WALKING THE AVENUE, WE'VE EXPERIENCED U C AND B THAT WOULD FUNCTION AS AN ACTUAL PEDESTRIAN ISLAND.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN, PEDESTRIAN COULD ACTUALLY HAVE REFUGE
UM, SO THE A K F IS DESIGNED SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR ALMOST EVERY INTERSECTION ALONG EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
AND I DON'T, DON'T WANNA STEAL THEIR THUNDER, BUT I DO WANNA HAVE A K F IN, IN SEPTEMBER TO REALLY WALK RESIDENTS THROUGH WHAT THEY ENVISION FOR THIS AVENUE.
AND THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS NUMBER SIX ON THE MAP, WHICH IS, UH, THE A T C SS, WHICH IS THE ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEM.
AND WHAT THAT IS, UM, IS A SERIES OF, OF, OF,
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UH, TRAFFIC LIGHT IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UH, WOULD RE SPACE THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS ALONG THE AVENUE AND BRING THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY IN.SO THAT PRIORITIES GIVEN TO VEHICLES TRAVELING THE CORRIDOR IN A MANNER THAT SINKS WITH VOLUME.
SO MEANING, UH, THE EXISTING LIGHTS ARE ON TIMERS AND THEY REALLY DON'T ADJUST WELL IN THE AM WHEN CARS WANT TO GO TO THE HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION, THEY'RE REALLY ON THE SAME KIND OF TIMER SYSTEM.
SO WHAT YOU, WHAT HAPPENS, YOU HAVE BACKUPS UP WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, WHAT WE WANNA DO IS WORK WITH THE STATE, HAVE THE FOUR CORNERS INTERSECTION REDONE WITH THE A A T C SS NEW SIGNAL, AND HAVE THOSE SYNCED WITH NEW SIGNALS ALONG EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE TO REALLY RELIEVE THAT TRAFFIC.
SO INSTEAD OF BEING ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE FOR FOUR CYCLES IN THE MORNING, IT'S TWO, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT
SO IN THE EVENING COMMUTE, YOU GET OFF THE TRAIN AT, YOU KNOW, 5:00 PM FIVE 30, UH, WHAT HAPPENS? YOU SIT THROUGH MANY CYCLES GETTING TO FOUR CORNERS.
WE WANNA HAVE THE SYSTEM UPDATED SO THAT THAT PRIORITY IS GIVEN SO THAT TRAFFIC, UH, CONGESTION, UH, IS LESSENED.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS PEOPLE BECOME LESS AGGRESSIVE.
UM, THERE'S JUST SO MANY BENEFITS, AND WE REALLY HAVE HEARD DRIVER AGGRESSION FROM RESIDENTS AS A MAJOR, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPEDIMENT.
SO, UH, FIVE AND SIX, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS HAVE A K F PRESENT TO THE TOWN BOARD IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER AND REALLY GO THROUGH A DETAILED PRESENTATION OF, OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
WILL THEY ALSO BE GOING OVER THE FOUR CORNERS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, INITIATIVE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE? YES.
SO WHAT, WHAT I ENVISION IS A, UH, TWO PART, UH, A K F PRESENTATION.
THE FIRST ACTUALLY FOCUSING ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE AND THESE TWO COMPONENTS THAT I MOST RECENTLY IDENTIFIED, THE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE AND THE, UH, TRAFFIC SYSTEM UPDATES.
AND THEN PERHAPS, UH, OCTOBER, UM, MAYBE NOVEMBER, COME IN AND WALK THE TOWN THROUGH THEIR FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO, UH, STORM WATER MITIGATION ALONG THE CORRIDOR, AS WELL AS ACTUAL FOUR CORNERS REDEVELOPMENT.
SO WHAT WOULD CONCEIVABLY HAPPEN AT THE CORNERS? WHAT TYPE OF REDEVELOPMENT COULD RESULT AT THE FOUR CORNERS BASED ON VARIOUS UPDATES AND, AND THESE TYPE OF THINGS ACTUALLY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, THE ONE THING I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS EVERYTHING I'M MENTIONING RIGHT NOW IS INTENDED TO HAVE IMMEDIATE IMPACT, AND IT'S REALLY INDEPENDENT OF ANY REDEVELOPMENT AT FOUR CORNERS.
I WOULD ALMOST THINK IF ANYTHING WERE TO HAPPEN AT FOUR CORNERS, IT WOULD ALMOST, YOU CAN ALMOST THINK OF IT AS A BONUS.
I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF AWKWARD, BUT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH GRANT FUNDING, UH, OR VARIOUS OTHER CHANNELS, UM, TO HAVE IMMEDIATE IMPACT NOW.
'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY, AND I, I ALSO THINK WHAT'S NEEDED, UH, THIS LAYS THE FOUNDATION FOR THE REVITALIZATION OF THE FOUR CORNERS, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT, SAY, UM, THE HAWK SYSTEM, THAT'S SAFETY.
IF YOU LOOK AT NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE, AND PEOPLE COULD GO FROM, UH, SEEKER ROAD AND WALK, UH, TO CENTRAL AVENUE, THE MERGE, THE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA SHOP, YOU KNOW, ON CENTRAL AVENUE, ON EAST DALE AVENUE, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WALK TO, UH, THE TRAIN STATION.
IT COULD REDUCE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONGESTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU HAVE THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEM, THAT'S GONNA REDUCE, UH, CONGESTION.
SO ALL OF THIS IS SORT OF REALLY PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT WILL MAKE IT, UH, YOU KNOW, EASIER TO GET A REALLY GOOD RE REVITALIZATION OF EAST OF THE FOUR CORNERS.
I THINK YOU JUST SAID THAT BETTER THAN I COULD HAVE.
UM, THE LAST THING, SORRY, THE LAST THING I WANNA KNOW IS, UM, THE M T A TRAIN STATION UPGRADES.
I KNOW THAT, UM, THAT WAS AN EXCITING PROJECT AND COVID SEEMED TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PUSHED THAT BACK.
BUT I DID SPEAK WITH A REPRESENTATIVE RECENTLY IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS MEETING.
UM, THEY ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE, HAVE, UH, HAD THEIR BIDS OUT THERE FOR THE ELEVATOR PROJECT AND THE, UH, THE, THE, THE, UM, VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'VE PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD AND, UH, DID CONFIRM THAT, UH, IN CONSTRUCTION WILL BE FIRST QUARTER, UH, IS VERY LIKELY ANTICIPATED TO BE FIRST QUARTER 2022.
SO, UM, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, SLATED TO HAPPEN.
AND, UH, THAT WAS CONFIRMED VERY RECENTLY.
SO, UH, THAT'S GOOD NEWS, YOU KNOW, FROM AN A D A PERSPECTIVE.
AND, UH, THEY BROUGHT A LOT MORE TO THE TABLE.
THEY WERE GONNA UP UPGRADE THE, UH, UM, JUST, JUST MANY, UH, JUST BASICALLY MODERNIZE, UH, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE TRAIN STATION.
SO YEAH, I THINK, UH, I'LL CHECK BACK WITH AVAILABILITY ON THE TOWN BOARD FOR AN A K R F UPDATE IN SEPTEMBER.
AND, UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'LL BE
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REALLY EXCITING FOR THEM TO PRESENT.YOU'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB AND REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AS USUAL, GARY.
NEXT I WANTED TO, UM, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, ABOUT, UM, TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO ABOUT REQUIRING EMPLOYEES TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, VACCINATED.
AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY FEEL THAT, UH, AND I KNOW MILAGROS ISN'T, IS AWAY, YOU KNOW, TODAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, I FEEL, YOU KNOW, STRONGLY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, SOME ACTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WHEN THERE'S EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED, IT'S PUTTING EVERYBODY ELSE AT RISK AND THE DELTA IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK FROM IT AND DYING FROM IT.
AND, UM, I KNOW OTHER BUSINESSES AND GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE, ARE STARTING TO REQUIRE MANDATES.
AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST AM HOPEFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, REASSURE EVERYBODY WHO GOES TO TOWN HALL IF THEY'RE AN EMPLOYEE OR, OR A RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, OR A VISITOR THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE SAFE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WONDERING, UH, IF YOU KNOW ANY BOARD MEMBER, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS WOULD BE, UH, SOME OF THE OBSTACLES, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, I KNOW THIS, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE STATE AGENCIES ARE DOING IT.
UM, IN NEW YORK CITY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE INITIATING IT, YOU KNOW, IN NEW YORK STATE.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, MANDATE VACCINATIONS.
SO I THINK GREENBERG SHOULD FOLLOW.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY CAN'T BE VACCINATED.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT CREATES A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
SO I THINK MALA MILAGROS ISN'T HERE TO ANSWER THAT.
IS TIM HERE? TIM IS, TIM IS ON, UH, ZOOM.
I HEARD YOU TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CAN'T BE VACCINATED FOR HEALTH REASON.
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT, MIGHT BE IMMUNE COMPROMISED AND, AND CAN'T, CAN'T TAKE THE, MAYBE THERE ARE DOCTORS HAVE ADVISED THEM NOT TO TAKE IT BECAUSE IT, IT WILL AFFECT THEM.
SO WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, WITH THEM.
AND, UM, THAT TIM'S, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN OF MINE.
CAN WE HEAR? OH, TIM? NO, WE STILL CAN'T HEAR.
WE'RE WAITING FOR, JANELLE HAS TO DO SOMETHING.
OR GEORGE HERE? GEORGE IS HERE, BUT THEY'RE BOTH HERE ACTUALLY NO, I SEE TIM THERE.
I MEAN, I CAN HEAR HIM, BUT IT'S, I CAN SEE HIM.
WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ANYBODY ELSE CAN, I DON'T HEAR HIM.
YOU CAN HEAR 'EM FROM THE COMPUTER.
IS THAT IT? I THOUGHT IT WAS COMING FROM THE CEILING.
DIDN'T HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT.
YEAH, I THINK HE, HE SAID OKAY,
WE CAN'T HEAR YOU UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO GO ON SPEAKER.
YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THE CONTROL ROOM.
YEAH, NOW WE CAN HEAR HIM IN THE CONTROL ROOM.
NEW YORK STATE COURT COME FROM INSIDE.
JANELLE, CAN YOU, UH, GEORGE, CAN YOU BRING IT INTO THE ROOM? HE JUST WANTS TO SPEAK.
SO ON MONDAY, AUGUST 23RD, THE CHIEF JUDGE OF THE NEW YORK STATE POLICE SYSTEM, WE STILL CAN'T STILL LOAD TIM STILL CAN'T.
OKAY,
SO ON MONDAY, AUGUST 23RD, YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF JUDGE OF THE NEW YORK STATE COURT SYSTEM INSTITUTED A NEW POLICY WHERE ALL OF THE 15,600 COURT EMPLOYEES HAVE TO BE, UM, VACCINATED.
UM, EXCEPT THOSE WHO HAVE, UM, SOME SORT OF PHYSICAL MEDICAL LIMITATIONS OR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THAT THEY CAN SUBSTANTIATE.
UM, FOR THOSE WHO ARE, UM, NOT VACCINATED, THEY HAVE TO HAVE, UM, WEEKLY TESTING.
UM, AND IF YOU DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THAT TESTING, UM, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REPORT TO WORK AND YOU HAVE TO USE YOUR APPROVED TIME.
SO, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN, THAN WHAT THE POLICY HAS BEEN IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF, UM, IF YOU DIDN'T WANT
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TO BE VACCINATED, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD FIND LIKE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION FOR YOU.UM, SO IT'S A, IT IS A LITTLE BIT STRICTER POLICY.
UM, AND THEN AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, PAUL IS CORRECT THAT A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES, OBVIOUSLY, INCLUDING THE NEW YORK COURT SYSTEM, UH, IS MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE JUST REALLY NERVOUS BECAUSE THE DELTA IS SPREADING, PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK, PEOPLE ARE, UH, DYING.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO TOWN HALL, THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, UH, GETTING THE VIRUS BECAUSE SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE THE VAC VACCINE.
SO, UH, TIM, WITH RESPECT TO THE COURT SYSTEM, HOW ARE THEY HANDLING PAYMENT FOR THE REGULAR TESTING OF THOSE WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED? UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE HANDLING PAYMENT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALLOCATING TIME FOR PEOPLE TO GET TESTED.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BUDGET FOR, YOU KNOW, PAYING FOR THAT.
BUT YOU CAN TAKE OFF, YOU KNOW, TO GET TESTED.
AND I, I THINK WE SHOULD DO BASICALLY WHAT, WHAT THE STATE IS DOING.
AND WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WHEN MILAGROS GETS BACK, WE SHOULD SAY WHATEVER THE STATE POLICY IS, WE WILL WE'LL COMPLY WITH THE SAME, YOU KNOW, PRACTICES THAT THEY HAVE.
TIM, DO YOU KNOW WHETHER THIS IS BEING DONE THROUGHOUT THE STATE, OTHER MUNICIPAL BUILDING, OTHER, I THINK YONKERS SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO IT.
NO, I NEED STATE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE COURT SYSTEM OR WHAT ABOUT MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES? WHAT'D YOU SAY, TIM? I'M ONLY FAMILIAR WITH THE COURT SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES MIGHT BE DOING IN WESTCHESTER OR THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
THERE BEEN AN ORDER FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, SORRY, FROM THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT EMPLOYEES.
I SAID, HAS THERE BEEN AN, AN ORDER EITHER FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OR FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE WHERE THEY ARE NOW REQUIRING IT OF STATE OF STATE WORKERS, MEANING WORKERS THAT WORK FOR THE STATE, NOT THE COURT SYSTEM? YEAH, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YET.
WELL, MY, MY WIFE WORKS IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND MM-HMM.
I GUESS THE ISSUE YOU HAVE IS FOR, FOR THOSE WHO HOLD JOBS THAT CAN'T WORK REMOTELY, RIGHT.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER QUESTION.
I MEAN, THE DELTA IS, IS, YOU KNOW, SPREADING, YOU KNOW, PRETTY FAST, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, THE DEATH RATE IS INCREASING, UM, YOU KNOW, DAILY AND, YOU KNOW, THIS HEALTH AND SAFETY OF EMPLOYEES AND RESIDENTS THAT COME TO THE BUILDING HAS TO BE OF GREAT IMPORTANCE TO US.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I SORT OF FEEL THAT, I MEAN, WE LOST ONE EMPLOYEE LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO TO COVID AND, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK ALL THESE PRECAUTIONS AND I KNOW NOBODY WANTS TO GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, BUT IT'S THE SAME PROBLEM.
PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK, DON'T, PEOPLE ARE GOING, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S, UH, NOT CONCERNED ABOUT, NO, I KNOW I'M SAYING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE COME TO THE TOWN OR EMPLOYEES OR ANYTHING, BUT THAT, I'M JUST LOOKING AT, OUT FOR THE RIGHTS OF THOSE THAT HAVE, THAT ARE COMPROMISED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
WELL, TIM JUST DESCRIBED A PROCEDURE, RIGHT, THAT MAY BE USED FOR THOSE WHO FOR WHATEVER REASON, OPT NOT TO TAKE THE VACCINE.
THEY HAVE TO SHOW EVIDENCE OF REGULAR TESTING.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT POLICY THAT WE WOULD PRESENT TO THE TOWN BOARD, LET'S SAY, UH, SOMETIME NEXT WEEK, SO WE CAN SEE IT IN WRITING AND MEMORIALIZE, AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
THE BOARD CAN, YOU KNOW, REVIEW THAT POLICY AND MAKE CHANGES.
AND IF THEY WANT TO PUT IT INTO EFFECT, UH, THEY CAN DO THAT.
AT LEAST YOU'D BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE EXACTLY WHAT THE POLICY IS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE, UH, SUGGESTIONS.
NOT, CAN I JUST ASK YOU ONE QUESTION? UM, THE CONCERN I HAVE IS, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE FIVE PEOPLE IN AN OFFICE, AND ONE PERSON BECAUSE OF COMPROMISED IMMUNE SYSTEMS, DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE THE VACCINE, BUT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, BUT IF THEY DON'T TAKE THE VACCINE, THERE'S A, A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY COULD SPREAD, YOU KNOW, COVID TO EVERYBODY ELSE ARE, SHOULD WE AS A TOWN, AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD SEE WHAT THE STATE'S DOING, CREATE SPECIAL, UH, WORKING ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT TAKING THE VACCINE SO THEY WOULDN'T GET EVERYBODY ELSE IN, IN THAT OFFICE.
I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO CLA DIFFERENT CLASSES, FOLLOW
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CLASSES.WHAT I'M SAYING, I FOLLOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT TWO DIFFERENT CLASSES OF PEOPLE WHERE, UH, THOSE WHO ARE IMMUNE COMPROMISED AND THEY HAVE DOCTORS CERTIFICATION SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD NOT TAKE THE VACCINE, AND THEN THERE ARE THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO TAKE THE VACCINE.
SO I THINK THAT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS.
I THINK TIM'S IDEA OF PUTTING SOMETHING DOWN IN WRITING SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND UM, AND THEN GO OVER IT AND WHO'S COVERING THE COST? WHO'S COVERING SOMEONE WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THE COST OF, OF, OF GETTING THE TESTING MM-HMM.
BECAUSE IF YOU, 'EM, IF YOU EQU 'EM EVERY WEEK, LIKE, LIKE THE STATE AUTHORITY I WORK FOR REQUIRES EVERY WEEK.
UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO THE BUILDING AND THEY'RE NOT VACCINATED.
SHOULD WE BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME RISK TO THE EMPLOYEES.
IF THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE COMING INTO THE BUILDING BECAUSE THEY WANNA DO BUSINESS AND THEY'RE NOT VACCINATED, THEY COULD CAUSE PEOPLE TO GET SICK.
UM, SO SHOULD WE HAVE A, MAYBE FOR NEXT WEEK, COULD WE ALSO LOOK AT A REQUIREMENT THAT PEOPLE VISITING THE TOWN INSIDE THE TOWN HALL HAVE TO BE VACCINATED? OR WE COULD HAVE ACCOMMODATIONS LIKE OUTSIDE, OR THEY COULD DO IT BY ZOOM, MEET BY ZOOM OR WHATEVER WE HAVE.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO SET UP A PROCEDURE IN PLACE AT THE FRONT DESK OR IN THE LOBBY WHERE SOMEONE WOULD BE SITTING THERE ASKING PEOPLE TO PROVE THAT TO, TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED VACCINES.
ARE, ARE YOU READY TO PUT THAT IN PLACE? YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING FOR ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT THIS WHOLE, BUT THE POINT IS, WE STILL NEED A PROCESS, RIGHT? AND I'M JUST SAYING JU JUDITH, JUDITH IS RIGHT.
SO WHAT ARE YOU GONNA REQUIRE? ARE YOU GONNA REQUIRE THIS CERTIFICATION COMING FROM THE STATE? UH, IS THE CARD THAT WAS ISSUED, IS THAT ENOUGH? UM, WHAT, WHAT, UH, WHAT DO WE NEED TO REQUIRE? I AGREE.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ALL IN WRITING, UH, AND WORKED OUT.
AND WHAT WILL, AND WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVES FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT WISH TO D CORRECT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN VACCINATED OR NOT? I MEAN, IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, A MONTH FROM NOW OR TWO MONTHS FROM NOW, WE MAY BE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR.
AND MEETINGS WILL BE BY ZOOM AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE WORKING FROM HOME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DO THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT GETTING BETTER RIGHT NOW.
WELL HOPEFULLY WITH MORE PEOPLE BEING VACCINATED AND WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, GREATER PRECAUTIONS IN PLACE, WE WON'T HAVE TO GO QUITE AS FAR BACKWARD AS THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE SORT OF HAVE TO DO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, HEALTH BEST PRACTICES DICTATE.
SO WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK.
TIM, IF YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING FOR US FOR NEXT WEEK, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WHEN DOES MAGOS COME BACK? DO WE KNOW WHEN MAGOS WILL BE BACK FROM VACATION? I THINK NEXT WEEK.
IS SHE GONNA HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET THAT ALL TOGETHER? WELL, THAT'S RIGHT.
WE NEED, WE NEED, WE NEED MAGOS TOO.
WE NEED INPUT FROM HER AS WELL.
AND I THINK YONKERS IS, WE DO OUR BEST.
I THINK YONKERS AND THE STATE, DIDN'T THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA BE STARTING THE VACCINE MANDATES RIGHT AFTER LABOR DAY? THAT'S WHAT I, I READ KNOW A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WELL, THIS WEEK ACTUALLY THE 24TH.
SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME, I I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WRITING POLICIES IS GREAT, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE ENFORCED.
WE HAVE A POLICY THAT IF YOU'RE IN TOWN HALL, YOU NEED TO WEAR A MASK.
I POINTED OUT TO YOU LAST WEEK THAT I WAS WALKING THROUGH THE HALLWAY.
CAFETERIA WAS FILLED WITH PEOPLE.
NO SOCIAL DISTANCING, NOT WEARING A MASK, NOT EATING, YOU KNOW, SO, YES, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY EVERYBODY HAS TO BE VACCINATED.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE LATEST THING TO SAY, BUT THE MOST BASIC THING THAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THIS DELTA VIRUS IS WEAR A MASK, WHETHER YOU'RE VACCINATED OR NOT VACCINATED, PARTICULARLY INDOORS.
AND SO, WHILE WE LOOK TO IMPOSE MORE RULES, LET'S AT LEAST ENFORCE THE ONES WE HAVE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I COME, WHEN I'M WALKING AROUND THE BUILDING, I THINK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE NOW, UM, WEARING THE MASKS.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT THE DELTA IS, YOU KNOW, SPREADING.
IT ALSO TAKES SOME, I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO, THREE WEEKS AGO, PEOPLE WERE NOT AS CONCERNED AS THEY ARE, YOU KNOW? NOW I THINK THERE'S A GROWING AWARENESS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DELTA VARIANT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IS DANGEROUS.
I EVEN NOTICE WHEN I'M, UM, IN, UH, IN DOWNTOWN AREAS, YOU KNOW, JUST WALKING OR, OR BICYCLING.
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MOST PEOPLE WEARING MASKS NOW, AND TWO WEEKS AGO I PRACTICALLY NOBODY WAS.SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GONNA, IT CHANGES.
PEOPLE'S ATTITUDES ARE CHANGING.
THERE IS A CERTAIN, THERE WAS A VERY BIG CONCERN.
SO I THINK, I THINK EVERYONE HAS BECOME AWARE.
WE DON'T WANNA GO BACK TO WHAT WE DID TO LAST, LAST.
SO WHY DON'T WE HAVE A POLICY THEN THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT IN WRITING THAT WE COULD EVALUATE FOR NEXT WEEK? RIGHT.
TIM, WHAT'S NEXT? UH, WELL, WE HAVE A FOIL APPEAL.
UM, DAVID WILSON IS HERE FOR THE FOIL, AND IT'S WITH RESPECT TO TIM'S, UH, DEPARTMENT
I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT YOU WERE HERE FOR.
YOU HAD YOUR FIVE MINUTES OF
SHOULD DAVID BE UP THERE OR BE SHOULD I, SHOULD I BE HERE? YEAH, YEAH, BE AT THE TABLE.
HOW WAS THAT? I WAS
AND, UH, SO I ASKED HIM TO FILE A MENT REQUEST, I BELIEVE, ON JUNE 8TH.
AND BASICALLY, UH, MR. WILSON IS ASKING FOR 13 YEARS OF RESOLUTIONS AND INVOICES TO ATTORNEYS, UM, AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS PERTAINING TO, UM, TOMORE ROAD AND THAT LITIGATION.
AND, UH, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, UM, MATERIAL RECORDS THAT HE IS REQUESTING.
UM, WE DID, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ACCUMULATE FOUR YEARS OF RECORDS, UH, FROM 2017 TO TO 2021.
A LOT OF IT WAS WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL, WHICH DIDN'T CHARGE US FOR THAT.
UM, WE ALSO HAD COVERAGE COUNSEL WHO DIDN'T CHARGE US FOR THAT, BUT THERE WAS STILL, UM, EIGHT OR NINE YEARS OF RECORDS, UH, WITH A DIFFERENT LAW FIRM, UH, THAT MR. WILSON IS REQUESTING.
UM, AND IT, IT IS JUST A, A, A, A ASHIAN TASK THAT HE'S, THAT HE'S ASKING FOR.
IT REQUIRES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO IT.
I CIRCULATED AN EMAIL FROM LOUIS BELTRAN, WHICH OUTLINED THE, THE, THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE PREVIOUSLY DISCLOSED.
UM, AND WE JUST NEED MORE TIME, UM, TO DO THAT.
AND, AND I CAN'T EVEN GIVE A SPECIFIC TIME WHEN IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT, BECAUSE, UM, IT REQUIRES REVIEWING THE, THE DOCUMENTS, REDACTING THE DOCUMENTS.
AND, AND MR. WILSON'S FORWARD REQUEST IS ONE OF PROBABLY ABOUT 23, UH, THAT I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON.
AND, UH, MR. WILSON, YOU CAN ARTICULATE YOURS.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I NEED EVERYTHING YOU SAY THAT I AM, THAT I'M ASKING FOR.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR WHAT THE TOWN PAID TO THESE LAW FIRMS OVER THOSE YEARS.
WELL, I THINK WE GAVE YOU A NUMBER PREVIEW.
NO, THERE, THERE, THERE HASN'T BEEN A NUMBER.
AND THEN I, IN THE, IN THIS LAST GROUP THAT YOU SENT ME, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
THERE WAS A, UM, UH, YOU HAD THE ACTUAL CHECKS THAT WERE SENT TO THE LAW FIRMS AND, AND THOSE WERE THE RECORDS OF THE MONEY.
BUT IF WE HAD A, IF WE, BASICALLY, IF ALL YOU NEED IS TO KNOW THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT, WHY CAN'T THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE JUST DO A SEARCH? AND IF, IF YOU HAVE A FIRM, WE COULD SAY, YEAH, YOU KNOW, THIS FIRM OR THAT FIRM, AND THEN WE, THEY ENDED UP, IT SHOULD TAKE FIVE MINUTES.
WELL, BECAUSE NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT IF THEY, WE PROBABLY, THEY PROBABLY HAVE RECORDS'.
YOU'RE ASSUMING, YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT THE RECORDS ARE KEPT IN THAT WAY, THAT IT WOULD TAKE FIVE MINUTES.
YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT, WHAT TIM JUST SAID, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED, AND THEN WE ARE TURNING OVER MATERIALS, ALBEIT IN A PIECEMEAL MANNER, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOWARD IT.
SO ARE WE REALLY HERE FOR AN APPEAL OR JUST MAYBE CAN I ASK REQUEST? LEMME ASK YOU ROBERTA, YOU KNOW ROBERTA? MM-HMM.
I DON'T KNOW THE NAMES OF THE LAW FIRMS THAT
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YOU USED.BUT THAT, THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT.
SO TIM, IF TIM WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU A LIST OF LAW FIRMS THAT WAS USED, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PULL THAT INFORMATION THAT PAUL JUST DESCRIBED, GOING BACK, HOW FAR, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK, UH, 2009 TO 2009.
IT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BECAUSE IT'S TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS. RIGHT.
BUT HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE? WHAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF TIME? LIKE A COUPLE, TWO HOURS? WHAT? FEW HOURS.
SO THEN, SO WHY DON'T WE, UH, WHY DON'T, SO IT'S, UH, 5 44.
SO ANY ANY LEGAL EXPENSES? WELL, I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S GOING TO WORK BECAUSE THEY, LAW FIRMS MAY WORK ON OTHER THINGS TOO, BESIDES THIS ONE, RIGHT? SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY CALL OUT WHAT THEY WERE WORKING ON AND LIMIT IT TO DRILL MART.
THAT'S THE ONLY, RIGHT? THAT'S, YEAH.
BUT MAYBE, MAYBE IN THE MEMO OF THE CHECK OR HOWEVER YOU DO IT, IT, IT GIVES AN INDICATION OF THE CASE, I GUESS.
I GUESS THAT'S, UM, I HAVE TO LOOK, WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO IN AND PULL OUT TO TELL TO ACTUALLY THAT OUT.
OR MAYBE WE COULD ASK, UH, THE LAW FIRM, MAYBE WE COULD ASK THE LAW FIRM IF THEY COULD GIVE US, UH, AN ACCOUNTING EXACTLY HOW MUCH EVERYTHING COSTS, BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY KNOW HOW MUCH THEY MADE FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS.
UH, NO, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF IT WAS 5 MILLION OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, DON'T LOOK.
YEAH, THEY'RE DIFFERENT LAW FIRMS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT WHAT THE FOREIGNER REQUEST ASKS FOR, RIGHT? THEY ADVISE FOR DOCUMENTS AND SO THEY GIVE YOU DOCUMENTS AND RECORDS, RIGHT? YOU FROM THE PAGE, TIM LEWIS, WHEN YOU GIVE ME THE NUMBER, I WOULD GIVE YOU THE NUMBER, BUT YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR, RIGHT? RIGHT.
'CAUSE THE DOCUMENTS, RIGHT? I DON'T WANT YOU TO CREATE ANYTHING.
SO I NEED, I NEED THE DOCUMENTS.
SO, AND DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THIS IS GONNA TAKE? DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO GET THOSE DOCUMENTS? WELL, ROBERTA HAS DOCUMENTS.
I HAVE DOCUMENTS, SHE HAS CHECKS.
I HAVE THE INVOICES AND THE RESOLUTIONS, AND IT TAKES A LONG TIME.
I MEAN, AND SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS ARE IN STORAGE BECAUSE IT'S 2009.
AND I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT IT'S A LOT OF WORK.
SO WE'RE NOT, THERE'S NO, WE'RE NOT DENYING YOU, WE'RE NOT RESPONSIVE THAT, BUT LET ME, LET ME ASK A QUESTION JUST SO YOU WALK OUT FEELING THAT YEAH.
COULD WE GET LIKE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THEN AFTER YOU HAVE THE, IF YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE WERE TALKING BEFORE, GIVE YOU THE DOLLAR.
I THINK, I THINK, I THINK TIM IS RIGHT.
I NEED TO GO WITH WHAT I, I NEED TO GO WITH WHAT I ASKED FOR AND UH, YOU, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
BUT DO, DO YOU HAVE A, A DATE CERTAIN WHEN, WHEN YOU THINK I COULD, THAT'S BEST WAY ADDITIONAL 20 DAYS.
AND THEN I'LL LET YOU KNOW THE STATUS WITHIN THAT 20 DAYS.
I'LL BE FINING YOU WITH SOME ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTS.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST GETTING THE DOCUMENTS, IT'S THROUGH THAT REDACTING THEM AND THERE'S INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DISCLOSE BECAUSE IT'S, THERE'S INVOLVED IN TERMS OF DOING THAT.
A LOT OF IT IS ABOUT MY CONFIDENTIAL SECRETARY, WHICH TAKES HER AWAY FROM ONE OF THE OTHER IMPORTANT THINGS.
THAT SHE HAS TO DO, INCLUDING FORMER REQUESTS BY YOUR COLLEAGUES BY THE WAY.
NOW I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE, UH, SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF INTERVIEWING A CANDIDATE FOR THE ETHICS BOARD.
UH, PAUL, I HAVE REQUESTED BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THAT, I HAVE REQUESTED AN ITEM, UM, FOR THIS AGENDA AND I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE.
THERE'S AN ITEM TO DISCUSS THE, UM, UH, THE CABLE ACCESS, UH, BIDS FOR THE UP FOR UPGRADE OF THE CABLE ACCESS STUDIO.
AND, UH, THOUGHT THAT GEORGE WOULD, UH, COME IN AND DO A PRESENTATION THE SAME AS GARRETT DID.
THE, THE ONLY THING I'M WONDERING IS COULD WE DO THAT RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE ARE ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
SHE'S BEEN WAITING FOR I THINK ALMOST AN HOUR.
BUT COULD WE DO THAT FIRST AND THEN WE COULD DO, UH, OKAY.
SO CAN YOU COME BACK HERE AFTER THE 15 MINUTES? YEAH.
AND, AND LET'S NOT LET THAT 50 MINUTES GO
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INTO NO, THIS TWO HOURS.THIS, THIS MAY TAKE FIVE MINUTES.
ARE ARE YOU PREPARED? THANK YOU.
IS GEORGE PREPARED TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION? YES, HE IS.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DISCUSS LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT.
I DON'T WHAT, WHAT ARE THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS? THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO OKAY.
CAN WE, WE, WE HAD A SECOND, RIGHT? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SO WILL WE GO BACK HERE NOW? IS THIS OPEN NOW?