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TODAY'S AUGUST 31ST.

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IT'S AUGUST 31ST AT, UH, FIVE O'CLOCK.

AND, UM, IT'S THE WORK SESSION OF THE TOWN BOARD, RIGHT? IT'S A WORK SESSION OF THE TOWN BOARD.

AND, UM, WE HAVE TWO, UH, FOIL APPEALS.

TIM? YES.

AND I DID SPEAK TO THE, UM, THE PARTIES, THE REPRESENTATIVES, UM, FOR BOTH OF THOSE APPEALS.

AND THEY'RE SOMEWHAT RELATED, AND THEY AGREED TO, UM, AN ADJOURNMENT.

THEY AGREED TO AN ADJOURNMENT OF, UM, SEPTEMBER 21ST, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST.

AND, UH, THAT TIME, THAT ADJOURNMENT MAY OBVIATE THE NEED FOR THOSE APPEALS POSSIBLY.

GREAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOOD KNOWLEDGE.

GOOD.

NEXT, UM, GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY, UM, RAJU, I THINK WE HAVE RAJU, JOHN AND ROSE NUNAN FROM THE HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL.

HI, ROSE.

HI.

HI, ROSE.

HI, JOHN.

HELLO.

HOW EVERYONE? GOOD.

HOW ARE YOU? UM, AND SO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS HERE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.

GOOD EVENING.

GREAT.

SO MAYBE YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT, UH, THE RELOCATION OF THE NORTH WASHINGTON AND, UM, THE GREENBERG, UH, AND, UH, GREEN CIRCLE, GREENVILLE CIRCLE.

THOSE ARE THE TWO, YOU KNOW, MOST IMPORTANT ONES AT DISAPPOINTED.

GOOD EVENING, UH, TOM.

GOOD TOM.

GOOD MEMBERS.

SO WE START, SO THE SCATTERED SITES REDEVELOPMENT, WE STARTED OFF WITH THE NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE WHERE WE HAD APPROXIMATELY OR EXACTLY 12 FAMILIES TO BE RELOCATED.

SO NOTICES WERE GIVEN.

AND THE 90 DAY NOTICE EXPIRED ON JUNE 30TH.

WE RELOCATED ALL THE RESIDENTS FROM NORTH WASHINGTON, UM, AVENUE TO IN, IN THE VICINITY OF TOWN.

GREENBURG ITSELF, SOME OF THEM WERE RELOCATED TO ELMSFORD NEIGHBORHOOD.

A COUPLE OF THE RESIDENTS WERE RELOCATED TO THE FEDERAL SITES.

A COUPLE OF THEM WERE RELOCATED TO THE STATE SITE.

SO ALL THE RESIDENTS AND ONE RESIDENT ACTUALLY WAS RELOCATED TO THE OLD WHITE PLAINS ROAD SITE.

SO WE HAVE, YEAH.

SO ALL THE RESIDENTS AT NORTH WASHINGTON HAVE BEEN RELOCATED.

THEY'RE ALL RELOCATED IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

COULD YOU MAYBE, UH, UH, TALK OUTSIDE BECAUSE, UH, WE, WE HAVE A MEETING.

MARI, COULD WE MAYBE TALK, YELL AND SCREAM OUTSIDE OKAY.

AND TELL 'EM YOU DON'T WANNA GO.

WE, WE REALLY, MARIE, WE HAVE A MEETING.

WE, WE CAN'T BE INTERRUPTING.

PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS ON TV.

RESIDENTS WHO WANTED TO PERMANENTLY RE RELOCATE, THEY CHOSE TO RELOCATE AND AROSE, UH, FROM A HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL, WORKED WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HELPED THEM IN ALL THE MATTERS.

IF THERE WAS WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THAT, YOU'RE MOST WELCOME.

OKAY.

A GREENVILLE CIRCLE.

WE HAVE SENT OUT THE 90 DAY NOTICES.

IT IS, UH, SOMEWHERE AROUND JUNE, JULY 15TH.

WE HAD SENT THEM OUT.

WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 15 FAMILIES THERE.

TWO OF THE FAMILIES ARE RE RELOCATING PERMANENTLY.

ROSE IS WORKING WITH EVERY FAMILY THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RELOCATE THEM TEMPORARILY TO UNITS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ITSELF.

SO THERE, SO EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN BLACK WESTCHESTER, THAT PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO MOUNT VERNON AND YONKERS AND THEY'RE BEING DISPLACED AND GONNA BE, THE KIDS ARE NOT GONNA BE GOING INTO, ARE SO FAR AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THAT'S ALL INACCURATE.

YES.

WE'D LIKE ROSE TO ADDRESS THAT, IF YOU LIKE.

OKAY.

AS MOST, YOU KNOW, I'M ROSE NOON AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL.

UH, AND I, UH, OUR OFFICE IS THE RELOCATION COORDINATOR FOR THE, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND, AND AS RAJU IS SAYING THAT THERE ARE, THERE ARE FIVE FEDERAL SITES AS I PROBABLY, YOU KNOW.

UM, AND SO WHO WE HAVE WORKED WITH ON THOSE SITES ARE, UM, MORE, MOST INTENSIVELY ARE THOSE WHO RESIDE AT THE NORTH WASHINGTON SITE AND ALSO AT THE, AT THE GREENVALE SITE.

SO OF, OF THOSE, OF THOSE, UM, UM, RESIDENTS, ALL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE WHO CHOSE TO MOVE OUTSIDE PERMANENTLY, UM, CHOSE VOLUNTARILY.

I CHOSE VOLUNTARILY

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YES.

TO LIVE.

THEY DID.

THEY HAVE DECIDED THEY DO NOT WISH TO RETURN AFTER THE RENOVATIONS ARE COMPLETE.

BUT ALL THOSE WHO EXPRESSED INTEREST IN MOVING TEMPORARILY AND THEN RETURNING TO THE SITE ARE TEMPORARILY HOUSED IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, EITHER IN, UM, TWO PRIVATELY OWNED DEVELOPMENTS IN, IN GREENBURG OR IN THE VACANT UNITS IN THE STATE SITE, OR IN THE, IN THE FEDERAL SITE.

AND THAT IS ALSO OUR PLAN FOR, FOR GREEN GREENVALE.

UM, THE GREENVALE RESIDENTS RECEIVED A NOTICE THAT THEY, THAT THE 90 DAY NOTICE, THE DATE FOR MOVING WOULD'VE BEEN AROUND OCTOBER 11TH.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE DATE IN THE 90 DAY NOTICE.

UM, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE CHOSEN TO MOVE PERMANENTLY, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.

AND THERE'S MOVES GOING ON RIGHT NOW, UH, AS, AS, AS THEY'VE MADE THAT CHOICE.

UM, WE HAVE A, I'LL SAY A POOL OF TEMPORARY UNITS IN THOSE FEDERAL SITE STATE SITES AND IN THE TWO PRIVATELY OWNED DEVELOPMENTS.

AND SO WE WILL, WE WILL BE, UM, I DON'T LIKE TO USE THIS WORD, BUT SORT OF ROTATING PEOPLE AS, AS CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED AT ONE SITE, THEN THOSE WHO WISH TO RETURN WILL RETURN, SAY, TO THE NORTH WASHINGTON SITE.

UM, AND THEN, UM, UH, RESIDENTS WHO ARE IN THE GREENVALE SITE WILL MOVE INTO THOSE TEMPORARY UNITS AND WILL CONTINUE TO USE, UH, THOSE, THAT POOL OF TEMPORARY UNITS THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF, OF, OF THE ENTIRE TIRE DEVELOPMENT.

WE ARE, WE HAVE PROJECTED DATES WHEN CONSTRUCTION WILL BE COMPLETE.

UM, WE KNOW CONSTRUCTION VARIES A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE, UH, UH, CONTRACTOR ASSURES US.

HE, HE, HE'S ON, ON SCHEDULE.

AND SO HE WILL COMPLETE, UH, SOME OF THE NORTH WASHINGTON SITE UNITS BEGINNING IN EARLY NOVEMBER.

AND WE'RE NOW LOOKING SORT OF AT OUR MATRIX OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE IN TERMS OF BEDROOM SIZES WHERE CHILDREN ARE GOING, GOING TO SCHOOL.

AND WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL THE GREENVILLE RESIDENTS THAT THESE PARTICULAR UNIT ARE, ARE AVAILABLE.

SOME, SOME ARE STILL THINKING ABOUT ARE THEY GONNA MOVE ELSE? DO THEY WANT TO MOVE ELSEWHERE? AND, UH, SO WE ARE PROVIDING THEM LISTS OF AVAILABLE APARTMENTS, UM, IN THE, IN THE, I WOULD SAY THE GREATER, GREATER GREENBURG AREA.

AND SOMETIMES THOSE LISTINGS OF WHICH THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN 10 20 OR SO FORTH, WOULD, WOULD, WOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT WAS AVAILABLE IN YONKERS, WOULD HAVE SOMETHING AVAILABLE IN MOUNT VERNON.

BUT IT'S, IT'S THEIR CHOICE AS TO WHETHER THEY'RE INTERESTED IN IT.

AS, AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, THAT, UM, RENTS ARE HIGH, UM, PART RENTS FOR THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE BEDROOM APARTMENTS ARE EXTREMELY HIGH, AND THE AVAILABILITY OF THEM IS SCARCE.

SO IF, IF, IF OPPORTUNITIES WANT TO BE TAKEN, TAKEN ADVANTAGE IN, IN THOSE MARKETS, PEOPLE NEED TO QUICKLY, SO WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE LISTINGS, AND IF SOMEONE EXPRESSES AN INTEREST, WE HELP THEM FOLLOW UP THAT WITH THAT LISTING.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN OUR, OUR TEMPORARY POOL OF, OF APARTMENTS, UM, WHICH IS A CONTAINED NUMBER.

WE CAN EXPAND IT, WE CAN CONTRACT IT IF, IF NEED BE THROUGH, THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PHASES.

RIGHT.

NOW WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT VOLUNTARILY, IS THE, YOU KNOW, COULD ANYBODY SAY, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO ANTICIPATE, SAY, WHAT WILL BE SAYING BLACK WESTCHESTER, COULD THEY, COULD ANYBODY, UM, MAKE AN ACCUSATION THAT WE'RE LIKE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT TO COME BACK? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE A HASSLE OF CONSTANTLY MOVING.

ARE WE LIKE ENC PRODDING, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT TO COME BACK? OR ARE THEY SORT OF TOTALLY VOLUNTARILY WITHOUT ANY PRODDING, DECIDING NOT TO COME BACK? WELL, I WOULD LET ROSE ANSWER THAT, BUT I'D SIMPLY SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO HUD REGULATION RIGHT, OR RULE, UH, THAT THE, UH, RESIDENTS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO COME BACK, THE GREENBURG HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD MADE THE DECISION, UH, THAT ALL THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK.

OKAY.

UH, IF THEY SO DESIRE TO DO SO.

SO NO ONE IS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UH, NO ONE IS BEING PRODDED OR ENCOURAGED TO GO ELSEWHERE.

IT'S OF THEIR OWN VOLITION TO THE EXTENT THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO.

BUT THEY'RE CERTAINLY, UH, WELCOME, UH, TO COME BACK AS PER THE BOARD'S

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DECISION.

RIGHT.

AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE, I THINK, IN THE AMERICAN PROSPECT, YOU KNOW, UH, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE CONCEPT RIGHT NOW, NOT THIS HOUSING AUTHORITY, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE GREENWORK HOUSING AUTHORITY IS DOING IS HAPPENING ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, THE NATION RIGHT NOW MM-HMM.

, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF ONE, I'M TRYING TO ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE READ IN, IN THE BLACK, UH, WESTCHESTER, YOU KNOW, NEWSPAPERS AND THE, THE CRITICISMS, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT MAYBE THE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CRITICS ARE FOCUSING ON THE WRONG UNIT BODY? BECAUSE IT REALLY, TO ME, IS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAS TO PROVIDE HOUSING AUTHORITIES WITH MORE FUNDING.

UM, AND IF WE HAD NOT ENTERED INTO THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WOULD'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE GONE BELLY UP.

ACTUALLY, MR. ABRAHAM, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS, DO YOU FOLLOW, DO YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THE, THE FOCUS OF ATTENTION BY ACTIVISTS IS MISPLACED, SHOULD BE FOCUSED MORE ON, SAY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR NOT PROVIDING HOUSING AUTHORITIES WITH THE FUNDING THAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE TO, TO MAINTAIN BUILDINGS.

YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH CHOICE, IT SEEMS HISTORICALLY, HUD HAS ALWAYS UNDERFUNDED THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES, BOTH ON THE OPERATING SUBSIDIES AND ON THE CAPITAL FUND.

ESPECIALLY, I CAN TALK ABOUT GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY, WHERE THE LAST, UH, C F P OR THE CAPITAL FUND WE GOT WAS AROUND 2020.

IT WAS 240,000.

AND WITH 240,000, YOU CANNOT EVEN CHANGE THE ROOFS AT ONE SITE.

SO THE CAPITAL NEEDS OF MOST OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES, THEY RUN INTO YEARS AND YEARS OF BACKLOG.

AND HUD HAS NO FUNDING FOR THAT ON OPERATING FUNDS ITSELF.

HUD IS ONLY PROVIDING US 82% OF WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE.

SO OVER THE YEARS, THE CAPITAL BACKLOG IS SO MUCH THAT THERE'S NO WAY HUD IS ABLE TO PROVIDE THE CAPITAL NEEDS FOR THE INDUSTRY OTHER THAN WE ENTERING INTO PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO MAKE SURE THE PORTFOLIO IS UP AND RUNNING AND WE CAN PRESERVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

RIGHT.

AND IF WE HAVE NOT ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT, THE HOUSING STOCK WOULD'VE CONTINUED TO DETERIORATE.

DEFINITELY.

RIGHT.

AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DETERIORATED.

SO REALLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROTESTING OR CRITICS SHOULD BE REACHING OUT TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND SAYING, GIVE HOUSING AUTHORITIES THE FUNDING THAT THEY NEED.

SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS PRIVATE, PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PARTNERSHIP, IF, IF YOU HAD ALL THE MONEY YOU NEED, THEN YOU COULD CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU YOU'RE DOING AND HAVE TOTAL CONTROL.

BUT RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION.

YES.

THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

SO THE, IN THE NUTSHELL, UM, NONE OF THE PEOPLE ARE BEING, ARE BEING RELOCATED TEMPORARILY AGAINST THEIR WOLF OUT OF THE GREENBERG, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE GREENBERG IN A COMMUNITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT WHAT SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WERE ALLEGED.

THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE WHO DECIDED TO, UM, TEMPORARILY, UM, YOU KNOW, PERMANENTLY MOVED OUT, WHICH IS TOTALLY THEIR, THEIR CHOICE.

UH, THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE, AND I'M SORRY THAT, YOU KNOW, I ASK IS, UM, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UM, SOME RESIDENTS IN LEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR KIDS.

UM, AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT, SAY, THE LEY, WHAT THOSE TWO LEY MOTELS FOR FAMILIES WITH, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH CHILDREN, BECAUSE THAT, THAT TO ME WOULD GIVE PEOPLE AN OPTION OF STAYING WITHIN THE SAME SCHOOL DISTRICT.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WONDERING THAT THAT'S JUST MY OWN, BUT ISN'T IT THE CASE? ISN'T IT THE CASE THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE MOVED TEMPORARILY, THAT THE KIDS REMAIN IN THE SAME SCHOOL DISTRICT, THAT THE KIDS ARE NOT TAKEN OUT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BEGIN? WELL, ABSOLUTELY, AND I BELIEVE IT'S, UM, MCKENNEY BENTO REQUIRES THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION.

YES.

UH, WHEREVER THE KIDS ARE, UH, THE CHILDREN ARE.

AND, UH, TO MR. FINE'S POINT, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE ARE, UH, CERTAINLY IN TERMS OF IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY CONDUCIVE, UH, TO, UH, COMFORTABLE LIVING ARRANGEMENTS TO MOVE FAMILIES INTO A MOTEL WHEN THERE'S NO KITCHEN ARRANGEMENTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

UM, SO THE HOUSING ACTION COUNCIL'S WORKING TO MOVE THEM, UH, IN THE MOST, TO THE MOST COMFORTABLE, UH, TEMPORARY ACCOMMODATIONS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I WAS SPEAKING TO SOME, SOME PARENTS, YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE KIDS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS AN OPTION THAT I THOUGHT AT LEAST COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERED, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MAY DECIDE THAT THEY WANT THE FEDERAL,

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THE FEDERAL SITES IN THE STATE SITES ARE NOT THAT FAR AWAY FROM, UH, FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ANYWAY.

AND YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE MONTHS.

SO IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO, UH, RESPOND TO THE CALLS THAT I'VE GOTTEN IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, COUPLE MONTHS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THIS HAS BEEN REALLY VERY HELPFUL FOR ME.

THANK YOU.

AND JUST, UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENTS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, AND THEY, THEY ALL, ALL THE CHILDREN WILL BE, UH, TRANSPORTED BY, BY, BY BUSES TO WHERE THEY, THEY NEED TO GO.

SO WOULD, WOULD YOU GIVE UP ALL YOUR HAIR, JUST LIKE A LITTLE UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE SENIOR HOUSING AND THE CONSTRUCTION WHEN YOU THINK PEOPLE JUST BEFORE, JUST BEFORE YOU MOVE THERE, I JUST WANNA STAY ON THIS, THIS TOPIC REALLY QUICKLY.

CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN, UM, FOR RESIDENTS ABOUT THE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ENTERED INTO.

IF YOU CAN JUST REALLY EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN AND JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THAT, UM, THAT PARTNERSHIP IS SO THEY HAVE SOME CLARITY ON IT.

WITH RESPECT TO THE SCATTERED SITES? YES.

FROM SCATTER GUIDES MM-HMM.

, UM, THE SCATTERED SITE DEVELOPMENT, UM, IS BEING FUNDED THROUGH A COMBINATION OF, OF DEBT FROM AN INSTITUTIONAL INVESTOR, AS WELL AS, UM, EQUITY FROM A TAX CREDIT INVESTOR UNDER THE SECTION 42 OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.

UM, AND WITH RESPECT TO THE EQUITY INVESTOR, THE EQUITY INVESTOR INVESTS DOLLARS INTO THE PROJECT IN RETURN FOR THE ABILITY TO GET TAX CREDITS IN THE TRANSACTION.

AND OF COURSE, THE TAX CREDIT IS ONLY USEFUL TO ENTITIES THAT HAVE INCOME.

SO THEY CAN GET CREDITS AGAINST THEIR, THEIR, UH, TAX CREDIT LIABILITY.

AND SO IN THESE TRANSACTIONS, THE TAX CREDIT INVESTOR, THE EQUITY INVESTOR IS PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP.

UM, AND BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE TAX CREDIT EQUITY COMES FROM, EQUITY DOLLARS COME FROM WITH RESPECT TO THESE PARTNERSHIPS IN THIS PARTICULAR PARTNERSHIP, UM, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY MM-HMM.

IS THE DEVELOPER, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS THE PROPERTY MANAGER.

THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, SORRY, HAS NEVER, I'M TRYING TO GET THIS OFF.

OKAY.

THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, MAINTAINS OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND.

MM-HMM.

, SO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, AS OPPOSED TO OTHER PROJECTS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, IS ON ALL SIDES OF THIS TRANSACTION.

AND THE ONLY REASON IT'S BROUGHT IN THE EQUITY INVESTOR IS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THESE TRANSACTIONS ARE STRUCTURED.

THE EQUITY INVESTOR, AGAIN, BRINGS THE EQUITY DOLLARS, COMBINED WITH THE INSTITUTIONAL INVESTOR DOLLARS, ALLOWS THE PROJECT TO BE FINANCIALLY, UH, FEASIBLE.

SO THERE WAS A QUESTION AS THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY IS NOW AN L L C, THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY IS NOT AN L L C.

SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE GREENBERG, THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY A FORMED TWO LLCS MM-HMM.

, UH, GREENBURG HOUSING IN WITH RESPECT TO SCATTER SITE, GREENBURG HEIGHTS MANAGERS, L L C, WHICH IS THE MANAGING MEMBER OF GREENBURG HEIGHTS, L L C, GREENBURG HEIGHTS, L L C IS ACTUALLY THE OWNER OF THE DEVELOPER.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THE STRUCTURE OF GREENBERG HEIGHTS, L L C, IS THAT YOU HAVE THE EQUITY INVESTOR ON ONE SIDE.

MM-HMM.

, WHO HAS A 99.99% IN INTEREST WITH RESPECT TO THE ECONOMIC INTEREST.

MM-HMM.

, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE TO GET, TO ALLOW IT TO GET THE TAX CREDITS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MANAGING MEMBER, WHICH IS GREENBERG HEIGHTS MANAGERS, L L C, WHICH IS SOLELY OWNED BY GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

ALL GOOD TO SEE YOU.

ALRIGHT.

I LIKE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THEN WE GO INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

NO, WAIT, DO WE HAVE MORE? WE HAVE WHAT WHAT ABOUT THIS? NOT DURING THE EMPLOYEE VISITOR VACCINE MANDATE.

OH, I'M SORRY.

UM, WE SHOULD CALL, UM, MGOS MILAGROS.

I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS, I THOUGHT SHE WASN'T READY YET.

I THOUGHT SHE ASKED FOR THIS TO BE NEXT MEETING.

DID SHE? I THOUGHT, OH, I THOUGHT I SAW AN EMAIL THIS AFTERNOON THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR NEXT MEETING 'CAUSE WE WEREN'T READY.

YEAH.

SHE'S, SHE'S IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT DIFFERENT POLICIES AND I KNOW SHE RECEIVED ONE TODAY AND FORMULATING A POLICY FOR THE TOWN THAT'S GONNA BE A DRAFT AS LONG AS ALL OF YOU GUYS SEE IT AND HAVE INPUT.

SO SHE, SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE POLICY.

YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION, BUT SHE DOESN'T HAVE A WRITTEN POLICY.

SO ARE YOU,

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ARE YOU, ARE YOU, SO IS LAURA AND HR WORKING TOGETHER TO CON TO CREATE THIS POLICY? OKAY.

YES.

AND AS YOU KNOW, SHE WAS OUT THEN GIVE VACATION LAST WEEK.

SO, SO SHOULD WE TABLE THIS DISCUSSION FOR THE NEXT MEETING IS YEAH.

SHE'S NOT, SHE'S NOT READY FOR OTHER THING THAT I WAS SAYING.

I AGREE WITH THE, THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA SAY IS THE STATE IS IMPLEMENTING THEIR, UH, I SENT HER INFORMATION ABOUT THAT AFTERNOON.

RIGHT.

THAT GOES INTO EFFECT NEXT WEEK.

SO, UH, ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES IS TO SEE HOW THE STATE'S ENFORCING WHAT THEIR POLICY AND THEN WE COULD LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES OR RIGHT.

UM, OR EXPERIENCES, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE AN EXTRA WEEK OR SO.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I SENT, I SENT HER INFORMATION THIS AFTERNOON, WHAT THE STATE IS DOING AND FROM WHAT, YEAH.

SO I, SHE HAS, SHE HAS SOME INFORMATION THAT SHE'S WORKING WITH OR THE AGENCIES LIKE SAY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF THE POWER AUTHORITY, THEY ALL DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME SO, BUT I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

RIGHT.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT MIGHT BE GOOD IS, UH, MAYBE WE COULD ASK IF WE COULD GET SOMEBODY FROM THE STATE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

UM, I KNOW SHE'S TRIED TO REACH OUT.

SHE'S BEEN REACHING OUT SO SHE, I KNOW SHE'S WORKING DILIGENT ON EVERYTHING.

SHES GOT SOME YOU WHAT? I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET THEM AT THE NEXT MEETING IN TWO WEEKS.

WELL, WHY DO WE NEED THEM AT THE MEETING? IF, IF GINA HAS PROVIDED HER WITH INFORMATION, SHE'S SEEKING INFORMATION, SHE'S WORKING WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.

WE DON'T NEED SOMEONE ELSE FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT TO COME OPINE.

WE NEED THEM TO BE IN TOUCH WITH MILAGROS AND TIM.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

YEAH.

WE'RE MOVING.

WE'RE MOVING.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO WE NEED THE STATE TO PROVIDE IN WRITING WHAT THEIR POLICY IS.

RIGHT.

IF SOMEBODY COMES HERE AND THEY SAY, WE HAVE A VACCINE MANDATE, THAT DOESN'T REALLY HELP US MUCH.

'CAUSE IT STARTS A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

SO, OKAY.

I KNOW THE STATE IS WORKING ON IT, SO HOPEFULLY FOR NEXT TUESDAY WE CAN .

WHAT ABOUT THE BURDENS AND THE BEES PROTECTION ACT? PAUL, DID YOU DISCUSS THAT? WHAT'S THAT? OR MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE OPEN SESSION.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO.

THE, THE PROTECTION ACT.

THAT WAS JUST A DRAFT.

UH, LOCAL LAW.

YEAH, LOCAL.

I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.

UH, DO WE HAVE A DRAFT LOCAL LAW? DO YEAH.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME PUT THAT OVER UNTIL THE NEXT .

NOW WE'RE, ALRIGHT, GREAT.

OKAY, THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THEN WE GO TO NO, WELL WAIT, WE HAVE THE SIGNAGE.

DON'T.

SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO AT THE LAST BLACK LIVES MATTER SIGN MEETING, UM, WAS WHAT WE DISCUSSED AMONGST OURSELVES, UM, THAT WE ARE GOING TO, UM, HAVE THE ALL LIVES CAN'T MATTER UNTIL BLACK LIVES MATTER SIGN, UH, ERECTED, UH, ADJACENT TO THE WELCOME TO GREENBERG SIGN.

UM, UH, AND THEN THE RACISM IS NOT TOLERATED HERE, UH, WILL ALSO BE DIRECTED, UH, UH, I BELIEVE ON THE SAME, UH, EITHER ADJACENT OR ON THE SAME, UH, UH, SIGNPOST AS THE WELCOME TO GREENBERG SIGN.

UH, THE EXAMPLES OF THE SIGNS, UM, AREN'T .

RIGHT.

I THINK JANELLE WAS PICKING IT UP AT THE .

OH, OKAY.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE HOW, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT MINE AWAY, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT I HOPE WILL OCCUR TO THE RACISM'S, NOT TOLERATED HERE.

SIGN IS ON THE BOTTOM IN SMALL LETTERS, IT'S GONNA SAY TOWN OF GREENBURG SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW IT'S AN OFFICIAL SIGN SO THAT IF ANYONE TAMPERS WITH IT, UM, THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE ON NOTICE THAT THEY'RE TAMPERING WITH TOWN PROPERTY.

RIGHT.

UM, THE, UH, UH, SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS THAT AS A BOARD, UM, OKAY.

THE USE AND PLACEMENT OF THESE SIGNS.

UM, DOES FRANCIS, DO YOU WANT TO OPINE ON WHAT I'VE JUST SAID? UH, WELL, YOU, YOU'VE SAID WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED AND SO WHAT, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES SURROUNDING, UH, PUTTING THEM UP.

WE WANT THEM ALL TO GO UP ALL THREE SIGNS, UH, PARTICULARLY AT MAYFAIR, NOWHERE TO GO UP AT THE SAME TIME.

WE DON'T PUT UP THIS SIGN AND THEN WE PUT UP ANOTHER SIGN AND THEN WE PUT UP, SO ALL THREE WILL GO UP AT THE SAME TIME AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME AS THE BANNERS AND THE BANNERS WILL BE PRESENTED.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE ACTUALLY ROLL THIS OUT? HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO THIS WITH SOME, SOME, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT.

THIS IS PRESS CONFERENCE RIGHT AT THE SIGN, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE PARTICULAR SIGN THAT WAS TAKEN DOWN AND UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY MAKE A STATEMENT THAT IT'S BACK AND IT'S BETTER.

RIGHT.

AND SO, UH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE FAIRLY IMPRESSIVE.

ALRIGHT.

SO, SO JUST JUST SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR ON THIS, I'M CLEAR TOO.

ALL THREE SIGNS WILL BE UP.

ALL LIVES CAN'T MATTER UNTIL BLACK LIVES MATTER.

YOU HAVE YOUR WELCOME TO GREENBURG SIGN, AND THEN YOU HAVE RACISM IS NOT TOLERATED HERE.

SO ALL SIGNS A TREE, CITY U S A SIGN.

THAT'S NOT THE, THE THEY

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DON'T HAVE ONE HERE.

OH, OKAY.

AND ALL THOSE SIGNS ARE GOING UP.

CORRECT.

AND SO DO WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF TIMEFRAME AS TO WHEN THIS WILL OCCUR? SO, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT WE ARE HAVING A MEETING ON, UH, THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK.

MM-HMM.

WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHEN EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GO UP.

UM, THE REASON IT HAD, THE REASON THAT WE, UM, ARE DELAYED THUS FAR IS BECAUSE IT WAS DECIDED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD GO UP AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT WAY IT MAKES A BIGGER ANNOUNCEMENT.

AND THAT WAY THE, THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE AROUND IT, WHETHER IT'S A PRESS CONFERENCE OR SOMETHING ELSE, CAN POINT TO THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF, UH, THE BLACK LIVES MATTER SIGNAGE EFFORT IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

OKAY.

BUT SO THE, THE QUESTION I THAT I WANTED TO PUT TO THE BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, IS IT A PRESS CONFERENCE? WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF EVENT SHOULD WE HAVE? UM, WHEN WE UNVEIL ALL OF THIS SIGNAGE? WHY DON'T YOU, UH, UH, DO IT AT, UM, A REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING, LIKE UNDER THE PRE PRESENTATION.

UM, AND THEN WE COULD JUST SEND OUT SOMETHING SAYING, UM, WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SEND OUT SOMETHING BEFORE YOU KNOW, THE MEETING OR YOU COULD, WE COULD JUST DO IT AND, UM, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY THINKING A PRESENT ON THIS AT THE SITE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS, RIGHT.

WE COULD DO BOTH.

WE COULD DO BOTH.

WE COULD DO BOTH.

SO WE ENTERED, SO WE INTRODUCED IT AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING, AND THEN WE ANNOUNCE THE DATE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE GOING, GOING UP IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS.

CORRECT.

AND WE INVITE THE PRESS TO THE, THE SITE EVERYONE AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY ACTIVE IN MAKING THIS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO HOW ARE SIGNS GOING UP ON A POLL NEXT TO EACH OTHER? ONE AFTER ANOTHER? THE, THE, THE ALL LIVES CAN'T MATTER UNTIL BLACK LIVES MATTER SIGN WILL BE ON A SIGNPOST ADJACENT TO THE WELCOME TO GREENBERG SIGN.

THE RACISM IS NOT TOLERATED HERE.

WE BELIEVE IS GONNA BE ON THE SAME POST AS A WELCOME TO GREENBERG SIGN AND THE TREE CITY U S A AND THE TREE CITY, THE OTHER POST.

PAUL, I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T, UM, UH, CREATE THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, I HAD ASKED TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THE FOIL PROCESS, UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF OUR, UM, PUBLIC AND UH, JUST TO REASSURE OUR PUBLIC THAT UM, WE HAVE A SEAMLESS PROCESS THAT WORKS, UM, VERY WELL, UH, WITH THE SUPPORT AND COOPERATION OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND, UM, THAT IT IS, UH, MY INTENT TO CONTINUE TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROCESS WORKS WELL.

UM, AND TO LET OUR PUBLIC KNOW THAT IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE WITH THEIR FALL REQUESTS, THEY MAY CONTACT ME DIRECTLY.

JUDITH BEVILLE GREENBERG TOWN CLERK AT 9 8 9 1 5 0 4 9 8 9 1 5 0 1 OR 9 8 9 1 5 0 2.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BOOK, UM, THAT I RECEIVED FROM MR. SAMS. IT IS GOT SOME ETHICS PROVISIONS IN IT AND, UM, MR. SAMS IS HOPEFUL THAT SOME FUTURE DATE HE MIGHT SIT DOWN WITH SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE, UM, HAD TO THE, THE CODE.

UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE STATEMENTS THAT ARE DISCLOSED OR GIVEN TO DIFFERENT, UM, BOARD MEMBERS SOMETIMES CONTAINS INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS.

AND SO DAVID FREED IN MY OFFICE WITHHELD OR REDACTED THOSE DOCUMENTS, UM, ONCE THEY WERE FOILED.

SO AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT DISCLOSURE OF FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE STATEMENTS AND THE INFORMATION INSIDE OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AND HOW COMFORTABLE EVERYBODY FEELS DISCLOSING THAT INFORMATION AND WHETHER WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO SO BY, UM, STATE LAW.

OKAY.

AND TIM, YOU CAN ADVISE US WHAT THE STATE LAW IS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

YES.

YES.

GREAT.

OKAY.

NEXT, UH, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WHAT ABOUT THE SPECIAL MEETING? I WANT TO DO THAT AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OKAY.

FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING A PARTICULAR PERSON.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? SECOND.

WE NEED A SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE, AYE.

AND WE WILL BE COMING BACK.

WE'LL COME BACK.