* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] TOWN BOARD OUR WORK [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings] SESSION. IT'S ALMOST FIVE, UH, 30. AND, UH, WE'LL START WITH, UH, AND WHAT'S THE DATE? TODAY IS, UH, SEPTEMBER 21ST. AND WE'LL START WITH A DISCUSSION OF, UH, THE AGENDA AND JUST WANT TO ASK IF THERE'S, UH, ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT, UM, ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT. BUT, UM, RIDGE, YEAH. DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, PW ONE? I WAS GONNA ASK CAROL ACTUALLY COME DOWN, IF THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, DID YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE PRESENTATIONS AND, UM, NO, THEY'RE JUST SHORT ONES. UH, ONE IS A, UM, A CELEBRATION OF THE HINDU, UH, FESTIVAL. UM, AND THEN, UM, BREAKTHROUGH FIT CO IS A NEW BUSINESS, UH, IN, UH, IN HARTSDALE SERVING THOSE WHO HAVE INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES. AND, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC TO LEARN MORE ABOUT, UH, THIS BUSINESS. I THINK IT'S ONE OF A KIND. UM, I WENT TO THEIR RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WELL ATTENDED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN WHO HAVE DEVELOPMENTAL, UH, WHICH IS GOOD. BUT ARE WE LIMITING THEIR PRESENTATION? THERE'LL BE FIVE MINUTES, AND THE HINDU ONE WILL BE 15 MINUTES OR LESS, 12 MINUTES, I THINK. BUT THEY'RE BRINGING 20 PEOPLE. YEAH. BUT, UH, THEY ALSO INDICATED THAT, UH, THEY WANT TO MEET ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MEET WITH THEM BEFORE THE MEETING. THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK ON WEDNESDAY. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO THEM AT SEVEN, YOU'RE NOT AS A PART OF THE BOARD MEETING, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET THERE EARLIER MM-HMM. . OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE TIME THAT IS SPENT AT A PUBLIC MEETING. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA OR, YEAH, I GOT IT. WANTED THE TWO ATTORNEYS NOW ON, I GOT A TEXT, AN EMAIL FROM SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO SHOW UP. UM, AND THEY WANT TO KNOW, IT SAYS, OKAY, WHAT DID THE TOWN DO TO NOTIFY ANYONE REGARDING COVID? AND YOU NEED PROOF OF VACCINATION OR A POSITIVE COVID TEST. AND I MEAN, I STILL THINK THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO SHOW PROOF OF VACCINATION. UM, YOU KNOW, TO, WELL, COULD YOU BRING THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER? YEAH. I, I, I, I THINK WE SHOULD REQUIRE PROOF OF VACCINATION, UM, TO, UM, TO SPEAK AT, UH, TO ATTEND THE BOARD MEETING. AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WANT, WHO DOESN'T HAVE IT, SHOULD PARTICIPATE BY ZOOM. THAT'S MY FAILING. YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING, I MEAN, SO IT, IT'S A TOPIC FOR, UM, EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD SEND OUT AN ANNOUNCEMENT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ULTIMATE CONCLUSION IS. BUT IT DOES SAY VACCINE MANDATE FOR EMPLOYEES AND RESIDENTS OKAY. ON THE, UH, AGENDA STAGE. BUT WE, WE DO HAVE A STRICT RULE REGARDING WEARING A MASK. AND IF ANYBODY SHOWS UP WITH, WITHOUT A MASK, WON'T BE ADMITTED. AND IF THEY TAKE IT OFF WHILE THEY'RE HERE, THEY'LL BE ASKED TO LEAVE AND RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE WERE STILL CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE LAST MEETING SOMEBODY HAD TESTED POSITIVE, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, GOT IT FROM, GOT THE COVID FROM THEM. BUT I, I THINK WE HAVE TO, THE PANDEMIC'S NOT OVER. AND I, I'D RATHER JUST SAY EVERYBODY WHO COMES INTO A BOARD MEETING HAS TO, UH, SHOW A VACCINATION CARD. WE DON'T GET THAT MANY PEOPLE. SO IT'S, IT'S LIKE VERY EASY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MANAGE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY 30 PEOPLE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD, I THINK IT SENDS A POSITIVE MESSAGE. THAT'S MY FEELING. MM-HMM. . WELL, PAUL, HERE'S THE ISSUE. IN THAT CASE, THAT PERSON WAS VACCINATED, HOWEVER, HAPPENED TO ALSO TEST POSITIVE. AND, AND THAT IS A, A PHENOMENON THAT WE'RE LIVING WITH NOW, THAT JUDITH COULD, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE, EVEN I, I SAID THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THAT PERSON WAS ACTUALLY VACCINATED AND ENDED UP AND ALSO TESTED POSITIVE. SO THAT'S A PHENOMENON THAT WE ARE LIVING WITH NOW, WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE VACCINATED ARE ALSO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SPREADING IT, SHOWING WELL, WELL, THEY'RE CONTRACTING WHAT'S CALLED, I GUESS IT'S BREAKTHROUGH CASES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONTRACTING IT. UM, FORTUNATELY IT, THE, THE, THEY, THEY'RE NOT, UM, DEALING WITH A SERIOUS A, UH, UH, A CASE OF THE VIRUS. BUT WHAT THEY'RE FINDING IS BREAKTHROUGH CASES. SO EVEN IF WE REQUIRED PEOPLE TO SHOW THAT THEY WERE VACCINATED WHEN THEY COME THROUGH, [00:05:01] UM, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE THE VIRUS. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE THE VIRUS. I MEAN, BUT IT, IT REDUCES THE RISK. IT DOES, YEAH. I MEAN, BECAUSE MY FEELING IS ANYTIME YOU HAVE PEOPLE AT THE TOWN HALL AT A MEETING MM-HMM. , THERE'S A RISKS FACTOR. YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. AND MY FAILING IS THAT, UM, I MEAN, IF IT WAS UP TO ME, NOBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE BUILDING. MM-HMM. UNLESS THEY HAVE PROOF OF VACCINATION. THAT'S MY PERSONAL FEELING. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPROMISED IMMUNE SYSTEMS. MM-HMM. , THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO, UM, HAVE COMPROMISED IMMUNE SYSTEMS. AND I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING THE VACCINATIONS. THEY'RE THE COVID. SERIOUSLY ENOUGH. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED AND I KNOW A LOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, LIKE EVERY DAY WHEN I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING, OH, THIS PERSON'S IN THE HOSPITAL, THAT PERSON'S IN THE HOSPITAL. SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT IT TO BE OVER. WE ALL THINK IT'S, I AGREE. AND EVERYBODY'S, I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE CARELESS RIGHT NOW. MM-HMM. AND, AND YOU KNOW, INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S CARELESS MM-HMM. . AND I JUST SORT OF FEEL IF THE TOWN BOARD WOULD SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LIMITED, YOU KNOW, POLICY INITIALLY AT MEETINGS. ANYONE, ONLY PEOPLE WITH VACCINATION CARD I THINK WOULD SEND A REALLY POSITIVE MESSAGE. YEAH. WELL, I'M REQUESTING OF THE, OF THE BOARD THAT, UM, WE NOT HAVE PEOPLE COME UP TO THE DESK TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK, BUT THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE TABLE PLACED OVER HERE SO THAT PEOPLE, WHEN THEY COME IN AND, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK, THAT THEY'RE NOT COMING TO THE DESK, THEY'RE COMING TO A LITTLE TABLE THERE, I'LL GO AND PICK UP THEIR COMMENT SHEETS AND BRING THEM TO THE DESK. SO WE'LL DO THAT. WE'LL DO THAT. BUT THE LIMITED ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT ELSE THOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE IT FURTHER BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WRITING THEIR COMMENTS ARE WRITING THEIR COMMENTS RIGHT AFTER SOMEBODY ELSE WRITING THEIR COMMENTS. SO YES, IT WON'T GET UP TO THE DAY, BUT WE NEED A WAY THAT SOMEBODY COULD JUST SAY THEIR NAME TO YOU. YOU WRITE IT DOWN. OKAY. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE NEED. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S ALL WE NEED. RIGHT. BUT THE LIMITED ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO MANDATE THAT PEOPLE WILL BE VACCINATED TO COME INTO THE BUILDING. IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW, WE COULD DISCUSS IT, BUT WE KNOW WE GOTTA MOVE ON TO SOME OF THE OTHER. RIGHT. WHY DON'T WE DO THE OTHER THINGS? 'CAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW WE'LL DISCUSS IT AND THEN MAYBE WE'LL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. SO THAT'S THAT. DID YOU HAVE OTHER STUFF? ARE WE DOING AN AGENDA REVIEW, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA? WE ALSO HAVE THE APPEAL. YES. BUT, SO THE ISSUE WITH AGENDA REVIEW, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN ITEM ABOUT THE PUBLIC WORK? WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF RICH IS, HE'S HERE. RICH IS HERE. SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD COME UP, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA ADDRESS IT. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST REALLY HAVE THE ONE PUBLIC HEARING, THE CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SEWER DISTRICT EXTENSION WITH EMILIO ESCALADES, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK. DID WE GET, DID WE GET ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL, DID WE GET A REVISED DOCUMENTATION? I MEAN, HE WAS TYING IT TO A SITE PLAN, WHICH HE DOESN'T HAVE EXTENSION OF A WATER DISTRICT. AND THAT'S WHAT'S CREATING THE CONTROVERSY. NO, WE, WE DIDN'T, I I THOUGHT YOU WERE MAYBE GONNA AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO ADDRESS THAT, TO REQUIRE THAT THAT BE HAD BEFORE HE'S ABLE TO GET, YOU KNOW, AN EXTENSION. RIGHT. WHICH WE CAN DO WITHOUT THAT. BUT THE OBJECTION IS THAT HE'S PUTTING IN A DOCUMENT THAT AS AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT, THAT WE WOULD THEN BE RECOGNIZING BY ACCEPTING IT THAT WAY. THERE'S NO REASON FOR HIM TO DO THAT FOR A SEWER DISTRICT EXTENSION. I DON'T KNOW WHY HE'S DOING IT. NO, I THINK HE AGREES WITH YOU, BUT YOU'RE GONNA REQUIRE THAT IN THE RESOLUTION. AND HE CAN'T GET THE SEWER DISTRICT EXTENSION UNLESS HE DOES THAT. AND HE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT HE'S NOT GONNA, HE'S NOT GONNA REVISE THE PLANS AND, BUT HE, HE WILL, HE WILL REVISE. THAT IS AN OUTLINE OF THE LOT THAT HE WANTS INTO THE SEWER DISTRICT. WHAT HE'S DOING IS GIVING US A SUBDIVIDED LOT, RIGHT. THAT HE WANTS INTO THE SEWER DISTRICT. NO, I, I THINK HE'S WILLING TO DO THAT. I, I, I DON'T THINK, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, HE WASN'T HERE FOR THAT. SO HE DID. HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT. BUT I'M, I THINK HE'S WILLING TO DO THAT. I THINK GARRETT'S TALKING TO HIM. YEAH. IF YOU WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT, HE'LL, HE'LL DO IT. NOBODY IS OPPOSING THE SEWER DISTRICT EXTENSION, EXCEPT THAT HE'S TYING THE SUBDIVISION. THAT'S FINE. YOU JUST GOTTA TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON AND WE'RE READY FOR YOU. OKAY. MM-HMM. . SO, UH, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I'M CAL MURRAY WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO AUTHORIZE AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH ARC FOR THEIR DESIGN AND PERMITTING WORK FOR THE MICROPHONE REAL QUICK. CHLORINE CONTENT CONTACT TANK AND CHEMICAL FEED BUILDING PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. [00:10:02] UM, WE'RE ABOUT 50% IN THE DESIGN PHASE FOR THAT PROJECT. UH, THAT PROJECT'S BEING DRIVEN BY A REQUIREMENT FROM THE NEW YORK CITY D E P. UM, THEY'RE IN CEASE CHLORINATION UPSTREAM OF OUR SOURCE WATER, WHICH DRIVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR US TO INSTALL THE CONTACT TANK AT THAT LOCATION. AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, WE'LL NEED TO MONITOR, UM, OUR CHLORINE FOR COMPLIANCE ON LEAVING THE RUM BOOK, PUMP STATION AS WELL. UM, THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED ON THE EAST IRVINGTON TRANSMISSION MAIN WITH A, WITH THE INSTALLATION OF A MONITORING STATION. SO, UH, THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT MONITORING STATION. AND WE'D LIKE TO, IT'S BEING PROPOSED AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE DONE BY THE SAME DESIGN TEAM. THERE'S ALSO A COST SAVINGS BECAUSE WE CAN PUT IT, THE CONSTRUCTION OF IT ALL UNDER THE SAME PRIME CONTRACT, UH, NEXT YEAR ALONG WITH THE CONTACT TANK AND CHEMICAL FEED BUILDING. AND, UM, THERE'LL BE A COST SAVINGS ON THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION. 'CAUSE IT'LL BE DONE BY THE SAME TEAM CONCURRENTLY. THANK YOU. AND THIS WILL BE LESS THAN $50,000? YES. WHAT BUYING ? UH, THE MONITORING STATION IS ACTUALLY ABOUT THE SIZE OF A GARDEN. SHED BE ABOUT SIX BY EIGHT FOOTPRINT. SO IT'S A SMALL BUILDING, BUT WE STILL NEED, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNICAL DESIGN FOR THE HEAT VENTILATION, ELECTRIC WATER, SEWER, AND OBVIOUSLY THE CHLORINE ANALYZER. GOOD. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. EVERYBODY'S OKAY. ALRIGHT. NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I I I NEED TO REACH OUT. I THINK EDDIE MAE BARNES NOW IS ASSOCIATED WITH WESTCO. YES. AND BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR OVER A YEAR. I WENT AND I CHECKED THE 2018 CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE TO THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, AND THEY REMOVED SOME SERVICES. BUT THAT'S NOT MY POINT. IT'S THAT I'VE, I'VE BEEN MAKING THE POINT THAT THE CONTRACT HAS WONDERFUL PROGRAMS IN THERE, BUT WHAT IT'S INDICATING IS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY GAVE PROM DRESSES TO THE PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T AFFORD THEM DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN THERE WERE NO PROMS. AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME STATEMENT IN THERE THAT RECOGNIZES, AND IT, AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE IT INCREASED THE PRICE, YOU KNOW, OVER MANY YEARS. MM-HMM. . UH, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THERE WAS A PANDEMIC GOING ON MM-HMM. AND THAT THEY PROVIDED OTHER SERVICES, WHICH I'M SURE THEY DID. MM-HMM. SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST A, A RUBBER STAMP BOILERPLATE THAT COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE HAPPENED DURING THE PANDEMIC MM-HMM. . AND SO I'VE BEEN ASKING THAT. AND THE LATEST VERSION COMES BACK NOW TO THIS YEAR, IDENTICAL TO 2010, WHICH MEANS NONE OF THIS IS GETTING ACROSS. YEAH. I DID SEE A REFERENCES TO THE PANDEMIC IN EITHER THE 2020 OR 2021 SCHEDULE A, SO I KNOW I DID RECEIVE SCHEDULE A FROM THEM THAT DID REFERENCE THE PANDEMIC AND ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE. IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH PROM DRESSES IN EACH SERVICE. NO. BUT MEALS IN PARTICULAR, I REMEMBER THEY MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE ADDITIONAL SERVICES AS A RESULT OF THAT. WELL, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT UP ON AGENDA QUICK. YEAH, I DEFINITELY SAW THAT. SO I CAN GET YOU THOSE SCHEDULE A RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I, I DEFINITELY HAVE THAT FROM AMANDA, KYLIE SHAW. THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL. OKAY. BECAUSE THEN WE COULD DO TWO YEARS AND ONE YES. THAT. OKAY. YOU'RE UP NEXT. PETE, YOU ANY, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA? OR YOU GOOD? NO. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE READY FOR KEYS. OKAY. UH, AS YOU SEE ON YOUR SPREADSHEET FOR THE, UM, REQUISITIONS THAT ARE OVER $2,000 LIMIT, UH, WE HAVE TWO IN FOR RECREATION. ONE IS FOR L E D LIGHTS IN THE FILTER ROOMS, AND THE OTHER IS FOR PICNIC TABLES. UH, I GUESS TO REPLACE THE BROKEN OR DAMAGED ONES. IS JERRY STILL HERE? NO, I'M HERE. OH, ARE YOU OKAY. I DIDN'T SEE YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, YOU GOTTA PUT YOUR MIC ON. THERE WE GO. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, THE, UH, FIRST ONE, [00:15:01] UH, THAT PETE, UH, SHARED WITH YOU IS FOR $2,746,000, UH, $2,746 AND 10 CENTS. AND THAT IS BUDGETED UNDER REQUESTED PROJECTS. IT'S OUR PROJECT FOR THE, UH, AAV VETERAN PARK MAIN POOL COMPLEX, WHERE WE HAVE A, UH, L E D LIGHT REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. UM, WE REALLY WANT TO, UH, SWAP OUT ALL OF THEM. THE EXISTING BALLASTS ARE STARTING TO CORRODE BECAUSE OF THE, UH, CHLORINE AND OTHER CHEMICALS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE OVER TIME. AND WE THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, COST SAVING LONG TERM IF WE GO WITH L E D LIGHT SYSTEM. AND THAT WOULD, UH, BE ABOUT 60% OF THE, UH, SYSTEMS WE NEED. AND IN, UH, FUTURE BUDGETS, WE SWAP OUT THE REMAINING 40%. NOW, GRANGER IS NOT KNOWN FOR ITS CHEAPNESS. UH, DID WE LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS A COMPETITIVE, UH, QUOTE? UH, THEY DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. THEY DID CHECK THE, UH, THE PRICES. THIS IS, UH, GRANGER DOES HAVE THE, THE LOWEST PRICE ON LEDS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PURPOSE. OKAY. AND THE OTHER ITEM IS, UH, FOR, UH, $3,872 AND 85 CENTS, UH, UNDER OTHER EQUIPMENT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN IN THE BUDGET AND, UH, PRE-APPROVED, UH, FOR PICNIC TABLES. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING, HOW MANY TABLES WERE THEY? THEY'RE REALLY EXPENSIVE. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT, WAS IT 14 TABLES OR 16? I BELIEVE 16 TABLES, I BELIEVE. 16. 16 TABLES. AND THERE, THERE WOODEN, UH, PICNIC TABLES. UH, WE HELD OFF INITIALLY, UH, 'CAUSE THE PRICE WAS HIGHER. AND THEN, UH, NOW THAT THE COST HAS GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, UM, WE FIGURED THIS WAS A GOOD TIME, UH, TO PUT IT IN FOR THE, UH, REQUEST, WHICH WE HAD THREE PRICES TOO. THESE ARE WOODEN, THERE'S, THERE'S AN ONGOING, UH, DISCUSSION INTERNALLY BECAUSE YOU CAN GET THE RECYCLABLE WOOD ALONG WITH PLASTIC, UH, TO PUT OUT THERE. BUT THEY REALLY, THEY'RE NOT AS ATTRACTIVE. AND WE DON'T KNOW LONG TERM THE, THAT THE PUBLIC PURSUES THE TRADITIONAL WOOD, AND YOU USUALLY GET ABOUT 10 YEARS OUT OF IT. UM, BUT WOOD IS STARTING TO BECOME HARDER TO ACQUIRE AND PRICES ARE GOING UP. SO WE MAY END UP GOING TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SYSTEM FOR FUTURE PICNIC TABLES. WHAT IS, WHAT IS, WHAT IS AS HIGH AS IT'S BEEN. SO IT'S, IT IT'S STILL GOING UP. IT'S, IT'S JUST ASTRONOMICAL. YEP. ARE THESE REPLACEMENTS OR ARE THESE ADDITIONAL TABLES? UH, THESE ARE REPLACEMENTS BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES THEY BROUGHT OUT AND, AND, AND WE ALWAYS HAVE A, LIKE A PICNIC TABLE, LIKE A VEHICLE FLEET REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. THIS IS FOR THE PICNIC TABLES. WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS NOW. DO WE KEEP SOME OF THESE IN STOCK IN CASE ONE BRINGS WE HAVE IN THE PAST, YES. WE HAVE AT TIMES REPLACE IT. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO LIKE LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T ORDER ANYTHING RIGHT. BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. AND WE, WE SHUT ALL THE THINGS DOWN. SO THIS YEAR WE DID SEE, UH, MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY COME OUT AND USE OUR FACILITIES AND REALLY GRATEFUL, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THE ONE THING YOU STILL CAN DO IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE, IT'S A LOT SAFER. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. HOW ARE WE IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET THIS YEAR COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROJECTIONS IN TERMS OF THE REVENUE? UM, REVENUE COMPARED TO LAST YEAR IS UP SIGNIFICANTLY. BUT, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET ALL OUR MARKS BECAUSE, UH, SOME OF THE PUBLIC HAS STILL BEEN HESITANT IN COMING OUT, IN SIGNING UP FOR PROGRAMS AND COMING OUT. LIKE FOR THE POOL, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HIT ABOUT 70% OF OUR MARKS VERSUS IT IS DOWN. WE'RE DOING A COMPARISON TO THE, TO THE PRIMARY PANDEMIC YEARS. YEP. IS NOT GREAT. HOW, HOW DID WE DO COMPARISON ? WE DID NOT MEET OUR 2019 MARKS. AND, AND LIKEWISE, WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EVEN LOOKING AT IN OUR BUDGET FOR RAISING, UH, UH, OUR DAY CAMP FEES, I THINK BY $50, UH, YOU KNOW, PER CHILD. AND WE'RE STILL KEEPING THE MARK BELOW BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA HIT THAT MARK EVEN IN 2022. I'M A LITTLE MORE ENCOURAGED. UM, BUT, UH, WE'RE HOPING WE CAN GET BACK TO 2019. MARK. OKAY. PETE, AND I THINK I'VE ASKED IN THE PAST, WHEN IT HAS SOMETHING LIKE PICNIC TABLES AND IT SAYS $3,800. IT'S, IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE TO US IF THAT'S A HUNDRED PICNIC TABLES OR ONE, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IF YOU PUT THE NUMBER NEXT TO THE NUMBER WHENEVER YOU, UH, ARE ANY OF THESE, UH, REIMBURSABLE ITEMS FROM FEMA? YOU KNOW, NO. NOT THE TWO. I THAT'S ON THE AGENDA. THEY'RE NOT, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THAT. THEY'RE NOT, THEY WEREN'T FLOODED OUT OR ANYTHING? NO, THEY WERE NOT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S IT FOR RECREATION. YEP. THANK YOU. THANKS, JERRY. THANK YOU. JERRY. UH, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? NOT RIGHT NOW. NO. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. UM, YOU WANT A CONCEALABLE CHAMBER, UH, CARRIER? EXCUSE ME? WHAT IS A CONCEALABLE CARRIER? UH, I NEEDED, UH, EITHER JAR OR, UH, CAPTAIN VALENTINE [00:20:01] TO BE HERE TO DISCUSS THAT. UH, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS. UH, I BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING FOR THE AMBULANCE BECAUSE JART HAD PUT IT IN JAR ROSENBERG. UM, I HAD ASKED HIM TO GIVE ME A CALL. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A CALL BACK. UH, BUT I HAD TALKED TO, UH, CAPTAIN VALENTINE AND I TOLD HIM HE WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. AND I NEEDED SOMEBODY HERE. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY. IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S UNIFORM AND PROTECTIVE BE RIGHT. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT A CONCEALABLE CARRIER IS. 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE ONCE YOU HAVE IT, NOBODY WILL KNOW YOU HAVE IT. . IT MAY, IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A HOLSTER THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. I COULDN'T GET A CLEAR CLARIFICATION ON IT. AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T WANTED SOMEBODY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE, UH, TO GIVE A, A BETTER SCENARIO AS WHAT IT IS. YEAH. IT, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT GOES WITH THEIR DESKS. RIGHT. UM, TRAFFIC, UH, THE L E D POST LIGHTS, UH, RICH, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE? WHAT'S THAT PLEASE? POST LIGHTS, UH, FOR TRAFFIC. UH, PUT IN BY MIKE LEECO. THE POST LIGHTS? YEAH. FOR L E D LIGHTS. L E D LIGHTS. YEAH. I THINK THEY'RE ALL REPLACEMENT PEOPLE REPLACEMENTS. YES. BECAUSE HE'S GOT UNDER SUPPLIES. WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHERE HE IS ABOUT TO FIND IT. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S ALL REPLACEMENTS. UH, I KNOW MIKE IS GOING TO L E D WITH, UM, LAW LIGHTING INCORPORATED. HE, MIKE IS VERY GOOD IN DOING HIS, UH, PRICING. AND, UH, WHEN MIKE SAYS THIS IS THE LOWEST PRICE, THIS IS THE LOWEST PRICE. HE, HE, HE NOT ONLY LOOKS FOR THREE, HE GOES TO FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT VENDORS. UH, THE DOCKING STATION. I THINK WE HAVE A MASKED POLICE CHIEF IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. . OH, HERE HE IS. WE'RE GOING TO QUIZ YOU. IS THAT, IS THAT THE CAD CRUSADER? I'M SORRY? CAD CRUSADER BEHIND THE MASK. . YOUR S A T QUESTION FOR TODAY IS, WHAT IS A CONCEALABLE CARRIER? A CONCEAL CARRIER IS, UH, ANOTHER NAME FOR A BULLETPROOF VEST. OH, OKAY. I KNOW THAT. NOW I LOOK IT UP. SHOULD I PUT THIS ON? YEAH, IT'S ON. IT'S ON. OKAY. AND THE REASON WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A BULLETPROOF VEST. I, I, I THINK THAT IS NOW THE, THE PROPER TERMINOLOGY FOR IT. YEAH. THEY . YEAH. HUH. OKAY. UH, DOCKING STATIONS FOR THE TRAFFIC UNITS ARE THAT FOR THE, UH, RADIOS? YES. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE NEXT REQUEST THAT'S ON THERE. YEP. SO THIS EQUIPMENT IS END THE LIFE. BRING THE MICROPHONE CLOSER. YES, SIR. SO THIS EQUIPMENT IS END OF LIFE. UM, YOU SEE THE PRICE THERE IS JUST OVER 6,000. THIS IS FOR, I BELIEVE FOUR UNITS. MM-HMM. , AND THOSE ARE REFURBISHED UNITS. AND THE PRICE OF A NEW ONE WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER 5,000 FOR JUST ONE NEW ONE. SO WE'VE PURCHASED REFURBISHED UNITS IN THE PAST. THEY'VE WORKED OUT VERY WELL. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SAVE MONEY HERE. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE END OF LIFE UNITS. I THINK THE SOFTWARE WE NEED, WINDOWS TEND TO RUN A LOT OF THE NEW SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE EXISTING, SO THEY'RE NOT SUPPORTED. AND IT'S END OF LIFE FOR THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . YEAH. YEAH. THESE, THESE ARE GOOD PRICES. I KNOW WE DO THE SAME THING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. UH, WE DO, UH, REFURBISH STUFF. UM, AND THAT SEEMS TO WORK OUT GOOD. YOU KNOW, THE WARRANTY. YES. YEAH. SO, OKAY. AND A BULLETPROOF VEST. I DUNNO IF YOU WANT TO HEAR, UM, A LITTLE SIDE NOTE TO THAT. WE'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW THE NUMBER. HOW MANY DO YOU GET FOR THAT NUMBER? THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN TO 800 EACH. I WANNA SAY THAT'S ABOUT EIGHT TO EIGHT VESTS. AND WE DO GENERALLY GET ABOUT 50% REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE BUREAU OF JUSTICE FOR, FOR BULLETPROOF VESTS. SO, UM, ROBERTA CAN ATTEST TO THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S GENERALLY ABOUT 50% REIMBURSEMENT. SO IN THE FUTURE, JUST PUT A, A UNIT NUMBER. YEAH. UH, I FORGOT TO PUT NUMBERS IN HERE. UH, THAT'S MY FAULT. UH, BUT THAT'S, UH, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IT'S ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT, $800 PER VEST. AND THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A LIFESPAN OF THEIR OWN . THEY DO A FIVE, FIVE YEAR LIFESPAN. FIVE YEAR LIFESPAN. REALLY? YEAH. AND OUR, YEAH, THEY NEVER RIGHT. PUNCTURED OR SHOT AT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I GUESS WEARING THEM, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY MM-HMM. THE SWEAT AND THE ELEMENTS AND, AND SURE. YOU KNOW, THE MATERIAL KIND OF DECOMPOSES AND THEY WON'T WARRANTY 'EM AFTER FIVE YEARS. SO WE HAD A POLICE OFFICER THAT WAS SHOT IN THE ARDSLEY, UM, INCIDENT MM-HMM. A COUPLE YEARS AGO. AND THAT WAS WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD. AND [00:25:01] IT STOPPED THE ROUND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO RECOVER THAT ROUND IN THE BOTTOM OF THE FRONT OF THE VEST, SO MM-HMM. . THAT'S INTERESTING. IT'S INTERESTING. YEAH. THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A LONG LIFESPAN, NO. FIVE YEARS. IT'S, UH, FAIRLY SHORT. I WONDER WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM AFTER FIVE YEARS. LIKE WHAT? WE RECYCLE 'EM, WE SEND 'EM BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER. OKAY. YEAH. SO I DID GET THE, I DID GET THE INFORMATION FROM, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES ABOUT THAT MOLD REMEDIATION AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. MM-HMM. , APPARENTLY THE COMPANY IS MILLBURN FLOORING, AND THE PRICE IS $23,700. IT'S A 24 HOUR JOB. THEY GET 20 GUYS IN, THEY TAKE IT OUT, CLEAN IT UP, DRY IT OUT. MM-HMM. , UM, THIS IS THE GYM FLOOR. SO YEAH. I BELIEVE THEY'RE READY TO START RIGHT AWAY. YEAH. RIGHT. MM-HMM. MAKES, IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S, I SAID, GET THE REQUISITION IN, I'LL CREATE THE PURCHASE ORDER RIGHT AWAY. WE ALREADY HAVE THE BACKUP, UH, AS FAR AS THE PRICING, SO LET'S GO WITH IT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA SHUT THAT PLACE NOW. NO, BUT IT DO WE KNOW IF THAT'S COMPETITIVE. YES. YES. THEY WERE. THEY WERE, THEY DID THEIR THREE OR FOUR PRICING. ABSOLUTELY. AND THEY SEEM TO BE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR. HE SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING, AND I BELIEVE HE'S DONE IT, UH, IN ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT. MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . UM, SO HE'S, UH, HE'S FAMILIAR WITH THE PROBLEM. I DIDN'T HAVE, IT'S AT THE TIME, THE LAST TIME WE HAD A FLOOD, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT THE LAST TIME WE HAD A FLOOD, I HAD A FLOOD. I REMEMBER WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT FLOOR AND WAS TOLD THAT WE NEEDED TO GET THIS HIGH-END FLOORING SO THAT THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. THAT WE'D HAVE TO REPLACE THE FLOORING. RIGHT. AND SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW IS THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE SAME TYPE OF FLOOR. EXACTLY. THEY'RE GETTING A SOLID, IT'S CALLED PU ELASTIC. P U L A S T I C FLOOR, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ANY, UH, GAPS OR NO, SEAMS. SEAMS, SEAMLESS, SEAMLESS, SEAMLESS. UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE HIGH QUALITY WOODEN PROFESSIONAL GRADE FLOOR. BUT IF THIS HAPPENS AGAIN, WE WON'T HAVE TO REPLACE IT. NO, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD IS IT WAS A HIGH END NOT BECAUSE OF IT. IT'S NICE WOOD ON IT. IT'S BECAUSE IF THERE WAS A FLOOD, THERE WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY WERE PUTTING GAPS UNDERNEATH IT SO THE WATER COULD GO WHATEVER AND DRY OUT UNDERNEATH I, WHATEVER IT WAS. UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I THINK WE LONG TIME AGO. UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST, I REMEMBER THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN TELLS ME THAT THIS, THIS IS GONNA SOLVE. WE HAD, WE DID HAVE A BIG DISCUSSION ON PUTTING A WOOD FLOOR IN THERE WHEN THEY DID THIS. I BELIEVE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO. IT WAS 10. IT WAS FOR SANDY. IT WAS, IT WAS SANDY. YEAH. WE HAD FE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ON IT. WHAT'S THAT? I REMEMBER FEMA BEING INVOLVED WITH IT. YEAH. IT WAS, IT WAS DISCUSSION WHETHER OR NOT THINK RICHARD SOMETHING WANTS TO SAY THE FEEL THE FEEL OF ACTUALLY PLAYING YOU WANTED, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A FLOOR THAT DOESN'T, YOU HAVE THE SAME BOUNCE TO IT, THAT YOU WOULD GET ANOTHER, ANOTHER GYMNASIUM. AND SO THAT WAS A CONSIDERATION AS WELL. MM-HMM. . SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS OTHER PRODUCT DOES AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE CONCRETE TO JUMP ON, BUT, SO THE, IT WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, THE LAST TIME I HAD IT, 'CAUSE I REMEMBER I HAD JUST COME BACK TO GREENBURG. THERE WAS ASBESTOS UNDER THE MM-HMM. FLOOR. SO THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN OUT. THAT'S PART OF THE COST BACK THEN. UM, THERE WAS, UH, OTHER FLOORING SYSTEMS THAT WERE LOOKED AT. UM, AND ULTIMATELY THEY CHOSE TO GO WITH THE WOOD THIS TIME. I KNOW, UH, TERRANCE AND DAVE REGINA REALLY WENT OUT AND LOOKED, THIS SAME PRODUCT IS IN THE GYM, I THINK IN MA HIGH SCHOOL. AND EVIDENTLY JUST SURVIVED THE DEVASTATION THEY HAD DOWN THERE. UM, AND WITH THE REMOVAL COSTS, THEY GOT A NUMBER. WE ALSO GOT A NUMBER AND THEY GOT, ACTUALLY, THEY GOT TWO NUMBERS. SO THEY'RE ALL, THE NUMBERS WERE REALLY CLOSE. UM, PART OF THE STRUGGLE WITH THE COST OF REMOVAL NOW IS WHERE TO DUMP IT. 'CAUSE I KNOW BROOKFIELD FILLED UP A LOT OF THESE AREAS. THEY CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE MATERIAL. SO YOU ARE CARTING IT A LOT FURTHER AWAY. THERE'S A LOT OF STRUGGLES RIGHT NOW. I HOPE THAT HELPS. FROM WHAT I HEARD, THE, UH, HIGH SCHOOL . YEAH. THEY GOT FLOODED YEAH. WITH THIS PARTICULAR FLOORING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND THERE WAS NO DAMAGE. YEAH. AND I THINK THEY WENT DOWN THERE AND SAW IT. YES, THEY DID. THEY REALLY DID THE HOMEWORK. MM-HMM. , IF WE, IF WE GET INTO WHATEVER LEVEL LEAD IS, UH, I, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY. I DON'T KNOW EITHER, , [00:30:01] BUT I RECALL THE DISCUSSION BACK THEN AS WHY THEY, ANOTHER REASON THEY WANTED WOOD IS BECAUSE THEY WOULD THEN HAVE THE STANDARD TYPE FLOORING FOR A BASKETBALL COURT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE IN SOME TYPE OF A LEAGUE OR WHATEVER TOURNAMENT. RIGHT. AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD THEN QUALIFY TO BE AN ACCEPTABLE COURT FOR THEM TO PLAY ON. UH, IS THAT IT, IS THAT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION? I GUESS IF OTHER PLACES ARE USING IT? THE LAST TIME THEY WENT AROUND AND LOOKED AT COLLEGE CAMPUSES THAT HAD I THINK, A SIMILAR PRODUCT FOR WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING DOWN. THERE IS SOMETHING TO THAT. I, I'M NOT A BASKETBALL PERSON, SO, BUT I, I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING TO THAT, BUT I, I THINK THAT'S, THIS IS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S A NO BRAINER TO DO AT THIS POINT. 'CAUSE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS HAS HAPPENED TIME AND TIME AGAIN. MM-HMM. . RIGHT. OKAY. I JUST, I JUST RAISE IT AS AN ISSUE SO THAT OH, ABSOLUTELY. FULL DISCLOSURE. MM-HMM. REMEMBER FROM MANY YEARS AGO. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. GET OUT. THEN I MOVE EXECUTIVE SESSION. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE WITH OPEN SESSION? WELL, WE HAVE THE, UH, THE FOIL APPEAL. THE FOIL. IS THAT AN OPEN SESSION OR FOIL? THAT'S AN OPEN. OKAY. WE NEED TO DO THAT. WASN'T THE POLICE CHIEF EVENING. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PETE. THE POLICE CHIEF. WASN'T HE GONNA GIVE US A APPRECIATION? YEAH. THAT LATER. SOMETHING ELSE, PLEASE. AT THIS POINT, POSSESSION BRINGING TO YOU. RIGHT. HE WENT TO, HE WENT TO MAKE COPIES OF SOMETHING. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE SIGNAGE IS OFF? YEAH. THE MAYFAIR ACRES SIGNAGE IS ON HERE. YEAH. THAT'S OFF. THAT OFF. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO THE ONLY THING BEFORE APPEAL, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT IS THE FOIL APPEAL. RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. SINCE WE HAVE THE CHIEF HERE, UM, AND WE'RE WAITING. ARE YOU, WERE YOU PLANNING TO LEAVE? YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE DO EVERYTHING NOW? THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? YEAH. WITH OPEN MEETING. YOU WANT TO DO THAT? WE'LL GET IT OVER WITH IF WE, I MEAN, IF YOU CAN YES. WELL, THE FOIL AREN'T THERE PEOPLE WAITING FOR THAT? YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WAITING. THEY'RE WAITING. WAITING. WE CAN DO THAT NOW. I'M SURE THAT WELL, WAITING FOR 10. YES. BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR TWO. YOU WAIT TO MAKE COPIES OF SOMETHING. SO YOU LET HIM KNOW THAT WE'RE READY FOR HIM. I WONDER IF HE KNOWS. HE, HE, I WONDER IF HE WENT RIGHT INTO . KELLY, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME USING YOUR FIRST NAME, COULD YOU JUST SPEAK SO THAT WE NOT UNMUTE YOURSELF SO WE MAKE SURE THAT YOUR AUDIO IS WORKING? HELLO? HI. I'M SORRY IT ON OUR END HERE, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT WE, LET ME TRY AND FIND, RIGHT. OKAY. SO I'M GLAD I, I'M GLAD I DID THIS BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU'RE NOT COMING THROUGH AS CLEAR AS WE WOULD LIKE TRY IN OUR AUDITORIUM. I JUST, I JUST DID JUST TEXT HIM, JUDITH. OH, ARE YOU CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE OR ARE YOU USING A WEBCAM AND THE MICROPHONE ON THE WEBCAM? I'M, I'M, AH, WE, YOU'RE ABOUT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOW BLASTING THROUGH HERE. . CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? I CAN. I CAN NOW. OKAY. GOOD. OKAY. AM I WITH YOU? WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, UH, QUITE ON YET. WE'RE WAITING FOR OUR, UH, TIM LEWIS, THE TOWN ATTORNEY, BUT YOU'RE UP NEXT. MAYBE SHE HAS TO ACTIVATE SOMETHING WHEN THEY'RE ON ZOOM. OH, MAYBE YOU GUYS ARE STILL ALIVE, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . [00:36:17] SO, BY WAY OF A CONTINUING UPDATE, UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE, UH, THE POOL DAMAGES ARE STILL PENDING. MM-HMM. , UM, THERE WAS A, A LOT OF MUD THAT GOT INTO THE DRAINAGE AND FILTER SYSTEMS, SO THEY HAVE TO FILL THE POOL BEFORE THEY'RE GONNA KNOW WHAT ACTUAL DAMAGES HAVE OCCURRED THERE. UM, SO WE STILL DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE TO FIX. UM, THE, UM, AND WE ARE TRYING TO OKAY. TRYING TO REPLACE THE OLD BOILERS, UM, BEFORE WE GET THE NEW ONES. UM, BECAUSE NOW THE BOILER THAT'S USED FOR HEATING IS DOING DOUBLE DUTY, UH, WOULD BE DOING DOUBLE DUTY TO KEEP THE WATER WARM. UM, AND THE, UH, THE FREEZER IN THE KITCHEN, UH, WHILE STILL WORKING, DID FLOAT AND COME LOOSE FROM ITS MOORINGS IN THE WALL. SO THE INSURANCE IS GONNA HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TOO. SO, YOU KNOW YOU'RE ON AIR? YES. OH, OH, OKAY. MM-HMM. . UM, SO JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN UPDATE IN ADDITION TO THE EMAILS THAT TERRANCE AND, AND DAVID SENT YESTERDAY. OKAY. WE'RE READY. TE THEY DON'T SEEM LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT BEING DISPLAYED UP THERE. LEMME FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. SHOULD BE UP ON THE SCREEN. CAN THEY HEAR US, MS. MCNAMEE? I BELIEVE SO. I THINK FRANCIS DID A CHECK. OKAY. CAN THEY COMMUNICATE WITH US? HOW ARE THEY? YES, BUT THE THING IS, I THINK THEY'RE NOT UP ON THE SCREEN. OKAY. THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE UP ON THE SCREEN. OKAY. YEAH, THE SOUND WORKS OKAY, RIGHT, FRANCIS? YEAH. EVERYTHING'S GOOD. . OKAY. HERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE SURROUND VIDEO. WE HAVE, YOU'RE ON THREE DIFFERENT SCREENS, RIGHT? SO MS. MCNAMEE, I BELIEVE, AND KENDRA, AM I CORRECT? OKAY. SO I'M TIM LEWIS, AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE AT A TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION AND WE'RE CONSIDERING YOUR FOIL, UM, APPEAL. AND, UH, JUST FOR THE BOARD'S BENEFIT, I THINK THAT THERE WAS AN INITIAL, UH, REQUEST IN, UH, MAY, MAY 13TH TO BE SPECIFIC OF 2021. UM, THAT BASICALLY ASKS FOR, UM, UM, A LOT OF DISCIPLINARY RECORDS. UM, INVESTIGATIVE REST RECORDS, ALLEGATIONS OR COMPLAINTS MADE STATEMENTS OF, YOU KNOW, CHARGE TRANSCRIPTS OF HEARINGS, A LOT OF INFORMATION. AND, UM, AS WE ALL KNOW AND AGREE, UH, THE STATE LEGISLATURE DID REPEAL 50 A AND A LOT OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS, UM, FOIL ABLE, ALTHOUGH IT WASN'T FOIL ABLE, UM, IN THE PAST. UM, I BELIEVE SERGEANT ROB, ROB ROBERTS DID, UM, RESPOND. I WANNA SAY THAT HE DID THAT IN, UM, JULY, NO, IT'S ACTUALLY MAY OF, UM, 2021. AND HE, UM, ISSUED KIND OF A BLANKET DENIAL, UH, OF THAT REQUEST. AND, UM, SUBSEQUENTLY, I, I DID TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, THE FOER REQUESTS AND HIS RESPONSE AND MADE A DECISION THAT, UM, MANY OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE BEING REQUESTED ARE ACTUALLY, UM, FOIL ABLE, AND [00:40:01] WE HAVE TO DISCLOSE THEM. UM, MY INITIAL CONCERN, UM, WITH THE REQUESTS WAS THAT IT, YOU KNOW, UH, IS SEEKING A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF DISCIPLINARY INFORMATION. UM, I BELIEVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, WAS FIRST, UM, FORMED IN 1910. SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR BOTH, UM, PRESENT AND, UM, PAST POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH. UM, SO I DID REACH OUT TO MS. MCNAMEE ABOUT MAYBE NARROWING THAT REQUEST TO SOME EXTENT. UM, AND ALSO THERE ARE SOME LEGAL ISSUES I HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH THE TOWN BOARD, UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, SUBSTANTIATED DISCIPLINE VERSUS UNSUBSTANTIATED ALLEGATIONS, AS WELL AS HOW FAR BACK IN TERMS OF DISCIPLINE, UM, THAT I THINK LEGALLY THE TOWN BOARD IS REQUIRED TO, UM, TO GO. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT OVERVIEW AND I TURN IT OVER TO, UM, MS. MCNAMEE IF SHE WANTS TO MAKE A STATEMENT. UH, I DID PROVIDE THE, UH, TOWN BOARD WITH YOUR REQUEST, BY THE WAY, MS. MCNAMEE. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, YES, MY NAME IS KELLY MCNA. UM, THIS, THIS FIRST REQUEST, THIS MAY 13TH REQUEST, UM, WAS MADE ON MR. LEWIS, I THINK DID, UM, SUMMARIZE THE REQUEST, UM, ACCURATELY. UM, WE'RE SEEKING A WHOLE HOST OF DISCIPLINARY RECORDS, UM, STUDENT TO NEW STATES, UH, LAW. UM, I THINK I, I'M NOT GONNA BELABOR OUR, UH, REQUEST. I ALSO REQUEST THAT YOU, UM, PROVIDE OUR APPEAL. UM, YOUR 20, THAT LETTER, UH, DETAILS, UM, WRITTEN ARE, ARE BROUGHT UP AT SOME POINT THE FUTURE. UM, THE, THE TOWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, REJECTED OUR REQUEST FROM TWO LANE ROUNDS. UM, I, I BELIEVE THE FIRST ROUND WAS SET WAS HANDLED 50 FOR YOUR, FOR YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO. UM, WAS NOT RETROACTIVE, UM, IN NATURE, UH, MEANING THAT, UM, ANY DOCUMENTS CREATED, UM, BEFORE THE DATE OF THE APPEAL, THAT LEGISLATION, WHICH WAS JUNE 12TH, 2020, UM, WAS SOMEHOW NOT SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE UNDER, WE'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE A DETAILED ANALYSIS AS, AS TO WHY WE BELIEVE THAT'S WRONG. UM, AND THE MAJORITY OF COURTS IN THE STATE DO AGREE WITH US THERE. UM, I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE APPEAL ITSELF, THE LEGISLATIVE HISTORY, THE APPEAL ITSELF MAKES CLEAR THAT THERE, THAT APPEAL WAS REMEDI IN NATURE. UM, AND WHEN CHANGED TO LEGISLATION, APPEALS ARE IN NATURE, KNOWING THAT REPEAL OF THAT CHANGE WAS NEEDED TO CHANGE AN ERROR IN THE LAW, UM, THAT THAT ACTION DOES HAVE RETROACTIVE. UM, SO WE BELIEVE THAT EVEN DOCUMENTS APPEAL 2020, UM, ARE SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE. UM, AND WE THAT ALL IN LINE WITH THE CLEAR POLICY THAT ANIMATES OIL ITSELF AT ALL. GOVERNMENTAL DOCUMENTS ARE SUBJECT TO PRESUMPTIVE DISCLOSURE. UNLESS, UM, THE AGENCY AND THIS DEPARTMENT, UM, PINPOINT SPECIFIC EXEMPTION. UM, WE BELIEVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT DONE . UM, IT'S ALSO OUR BELIEF, UM, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, AND NOW THE TOWN, AT LEAST BASED ON MR. LEWIS'S COMMENTS HERE TODAY, UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO, TO CLAIM THAT UNSUBSTANTIATED ALLEGATIONS OF POLICE MISCONDUCT ARE SOMEHOW NOT SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE. UM, YOU'LL SEE IN OUR APPEAL LETTER, UH, AGAIN, THAT, THAT I HOPE SERVICE, UM, PROVIDES TO EACH OF YOU FOR REVIEW. UM, IT MAKES CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO SUCH PAR OUT THAT THE REPEAL 50 A MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT ALL POLICE DISCIPLINARY RECORDS SUBSTANTIATED OR UNSUBSTANTIATED PROVEN OR NOT OUR SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE. UM, IF YOU TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THE HISTORY THAT WE PROVIDED THAT LETTER, I THINK [00:45:01] THAT ALL FARES OUT. UM, I WOULD ALSO, UH, JUST FOR, FOR THE BOARD'S DETENTION HERE, UM, THERE ARE TWO OTHER, UH, REQUESTS. I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU HOW YOU WANNA RUN THROUGH THOSE. UM, THE ARGUMENTS THAT I, I JUST LAID OUT AND SUMMARIZED HERE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE BOTH THE THREE REQUESTS THAT HERE TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER TWO REQUESTS THAT, AT LEAST TO THE SUSTAINABLE HISTORY OF THOSE TWO REQUESTS, UM, SO THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR, UM, AS TO WHERE WE ARE. BUT I, I WILL SAY THAT, THAT IF THE BOARD, UM, LOOKS AT ANY OTHER REASONS FOR NON-DISCLOSURE HERE, UM, OR IF MR. LEWIS PRESENTS ANY OTHER, UH, POTENTIAL LEGAL ARGUMENTS FOR NON-DISCLOSURE, UM, THAT CONCLUSORY STATEMENTS, UM, THAT CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS ARE APPLICABLE, UM, IS CLEARLY NOT ENOUGH UNDER, UNDER COIL. UM, THE BURDEN IS ON THE AGENCY TO MAKE CLEAR WHY CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS NARROWLY TAILORED ARE APPLIED THE SITUATION AT HAND. UM, AND WOULD LOCK DISCLOSURE BLOCK THAT PRESUMPTION OF PUBLIC ACCESS THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT UNDER COIL. UM, AND SO WE WOULD REQUEST THAT, THAT IF THE BOARD DOES TAKE ANY POSITION DIFFERENT FROM THE TWO POINTS THAT I'VE OUTLINED HERE TODAY, UM, THAT THEY, THAT THEY PROVIDE US WITH ENOUGH RATIONALE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN SURVEY THAT REASON, UM, AND MAKE A DETERMINATION ON OUR END. UM, ONE OTHER POINT, IF OFTENTIMES IN RESPONSE TO THESE TYPES OF JAIL REQUESTS, WE GET A GENERIC, UM, ARGUMENT ABOUT, UH, POTENTIAL PRIVACY INTERESTS AT PLAY, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE PRIVACY INTEREST OF A SPECIFIC, UH, POLICE OFFICER. UM, I WILL SAY, JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM, AND I, I HOPE THE BOARD TO, TO TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT THAT PRIVACY INTERESTS ARE SEVERELY COMMITTED, UM, WHILE POLICE OFFICERS ARE PROVIDING, UH, CALL FACTS AND COMMUNITIES, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE ON THE CLOCK, UM, AND BEING PAID, UH, BY THE PUBLIC THAT THEY SERVE. UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO TAKE, UH, SPECIAL CONSIDERATION OF, OF ANY, UH, ATTEMPT TO ARGUE THAT THAT PRIVACY INTERESTS ARE SOMEHOW AT PLAY HERE. UM, MR. LEWIS, WITH THAT, DO WE WANNA QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THE OTHER TWO REQUESTS AT ISSUE OR, OR THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST? UM, SANDRA, I HAPPY. YEAH, WELL, I CERTAINLY WANNA DISCUSS SOME OF THE LEGAL ISSUES WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN CLOSED SESSION. UM, BUT I THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THE, UM, ON THE REQUEST. YOU KNOW, AS YOU ALLUDED TO, UM, THERE, THERE'S ALSO A JOURNAL NEWS REPORTER ASHER, UM, STOCKER, WHO FILED A MORE SPECIFIC REQUEST AS IT PERTAINS TO, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AN ALLEGATION, UM, AND PARTICULARLY, UM, DISC MATERIALS AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, BUT ALSO BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE AND INVESTIGATORY MATERIALS, UM, SOME OF WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN DISCLOSED TO HIM. UM, OTHER ASPECTS OF THE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE AS WELL AS THE INVESTIGATORY MATERIALS HAVE NOT BEEN DISCLOSED AND THE DISCIPLINARY MATERIALS HAVEN'T BEEN DISCLOSED YET BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED WITH THE TOWN BOARD. SO THEY MAY BE DISCLOSED IN SOME FORM. UM, AND I'LL OUTLINE THE REASONS WHY MR. STOCKER WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE SOME OF THE, UH, RECORDS AND NOT OTHERS. BUT I THINK IT'S IN LINE WITH, UM, YOUR POSITION STATEMENT AND THE LAWS YOU OUTLINED IT. SO THANK YOU. AND IF, IF I MAY, UM, JUST ONE WAS OTHER TO REQUEST, JUST SO THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR, I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY RUN THROUGH, UM, WHERE WE ARE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS PROCESS OR MEETING WHERE WE'RE WITH RESPECT TO ONE OF THEM. SO, UM, REPORTER DOCTOR, UM, ISSUED A WELL REQUEST ON JULY 9TH, 2021. HE WAS LOOKING ALL DISCIPLINARY MATERIALS PERTAINING TO OFFICER JEFF SER AND OFFICER FRANK , I'M NOT KASOWITZ, RIGHT . UM, AND HE'S ALSO LOOKING FOR, UH, BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE, UM, THAT MR MENTIONED, UM, SOME OF WHICH WAS, UH, PRODUCED PURSUANT TO THIS REQUEST. UM, THAT REQUEST WAS PARTIALLY DENIED ON JULY 30TH, 2021. UM, SIMILAR LEGAL BUSINESS WAS TAKEN IN THAT DENIED. UM, WE THEN SUBMITTED AN APPEAL ON BEHALF THAT WE SUBMITTED AN APPEAL ON BEHALF OF, UH, REPORT AND [00:50:01] SIGN ON AUGUST 30TH, 2021. AGAIN, THAT, UM, APPEAL LETTER, UH, GOES INTO GREATER DETAIL, UM, ON THESE LEGAL IONS THAT I QUICKLY SUMMARIZED, UM, EARLIER. UM, THE THIRD REQUEST AT ISSUE, UH, IS OUR POSITION THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT REQUEST IS ACTUALLY, UM, NOT YET AT THE APPEAL PROCESS, UM, THOUGH MR. LEWIS WAS KIND ENOUGH TO, UM, INCLUDE THAT IN HIS, UH, INVITATION TO US, UH, TO PRESENT TEAM TODAY. UM, THIS ONE HISTORY THERE, , UM, MADE THAT REQUEST ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. UM, HE IS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR, UH, HOW WOULD YOU SAY IT, BODY CAM FOOTAGE WAS INITIALLY REQUESTED NINTH, 2021 REQUEST, UM, INTO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT MR. UH, UNCOVERED IN HIS. UM, SO HE WAS REQUESTING THE FULL BODY CAM FOOTAGE AFTER BY OFFICER JOHN ULA FROM JANUARY 18TH THROUGH THE 20TH OF 2019, SOME OF WHICH WAS ALREADY PRODUCED. UM, PURSUANT TO THE JULY 9TH REQUEST. UM, THAT REQUEST WAS ACTUALLY DENIED, UM, JUST THIS PAST FRIDAY ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. UM, SIMILAR RATIONALE AGAIN, BUT I WILL SAY IN THAT REQUEST, THE, THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE RATIONALE WAS THE PERSONAL PRIVACY EXEMPTION, WHICH AGAIN, I WOULD, UH, HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR THE BOARD AND ASK THEM TO CAREFULLY THAT CONSIDERING THAT, UM, THE OFFICER IN QUESTION, THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE IN QUESTION WAS RECORDED WHILE THE OFFICER WAS ON DUTY. UM, , UM, WE'LL BE SUBMITTING JUST FOR A CLEAN RECORD, UM, IN CASE ANY OF THIS DOES GO, UH, FOR JUDICIAL REVIEW, UM, IN AN ARTICLE 78 PROCEEDING, BE PUTTING IN, UM, AN APPEAL THAT OUTLINES AGAIN IN DETAIL, UM, OUR LITTLE POSITION THERE AND WHY WE INAPPROPRIATE. UM, I JUST WANTED TO RUN THROUGH THAT QUICKLY, JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL THREE SEPARATE REQUESTS. UM, I ALSO WANNA MAKE CLEAR THAT WE'RE HERE ON BEHALF OF TWO DIFFERENT CLIENTS. THOSE CLIENTS HAVE, UH, NO INTERACTION WITH EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT TO THESE REQUESTS. SO AGAIN, THE FIRST REQUEST TO MAY 13TH REQUESTS, UM, WAS ON BEHALF OF THE DEMOCRATIC CHRONICLE. THE SECOND TWO REQUESTS DIGITAL JULY 9TH AND SEPTEMBER 3RD, REQUEST ON BEHALF OF THE COURT. . OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE, WE, SO WE HAVE IT AND WE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE DISCUSSING THAT AND ANTICIPATE THAT YOU'LL BE RECEIVING A DECISION, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT 10 DAYS ON, UM, ALL OF THE, UM, APPEALS. GREAT. AND WE'LL PUT IN OUR WRITTEN APPEAL ON THE LAST REQUEST BEFORE THAT 10 DAY PERIOD, JUST SO THAT, UM, THE RECORD CAN BE CLEAR THAT WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE . UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. OF COURSE. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, NOT ALL, UH, ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. WE DO APPRECIATE IT. NO PROBLEM. THANKS. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, JOAN, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I AM. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AUDIO PROBLEMS WE WERE HAVING WAS NOT INTERNAL HERE. AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING THROUGH VERY CLEAR. NO. AND, UH, BOTH YOU AND THE UM, TWO LADIES WERE JUST VERY CLEAR TO ME. OH, THEY WERE OKAY. YES. VERY GOOD. I THINK THAT IS MADE FOR THE OPEN SESSION. OKAY. NOW WE NEED A MOTION. WE DO, UM, MOVE THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOUR TO DISCUSS, UM, OH YEAH. PERSONAL ISSUES INVOLVING PARTICULAR PEOPLE. UM, YOU HAVE SOME HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES, UM, INVOLVING C OVID 19 VACCINE AND THE PANDEMIC. UM, YOU HAVE SOME LEGAL ISSUES TO DISCUSS WITH RESPECT TO A CERTAIN PARK DISTRICT AND, UM, SAFETY ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO SOME OF THE DIFFERENT TOWN PROPERTIES AND AS THEY RELATE TO ONE ANOTHER. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SHOULD WE USE THIS ROOM? NO, THIS ONE YOU MEAN BACK HERE, STEVE VELASCO? YES. OKAY. SO, SO WE HAD A ALL MOTION, A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. THERE WE ARE MEETING [00:55:01] WITH ONE OF THE CANDIDATES FOR THE ETHICS BOARD BY ZOOM. BY ZOOM, RIGHT. SO, ALL IN FAVOR? YES. AYE. AYE. OKAY. SO, SO THAT CANDIDATE IS AVAILABLE AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.