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IT'S OCTOBER, UH, 12TH[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]
AT FOUR 30.AND, UH, THE FIRST ITEM WILL BE, UH, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR TROUBLESOME BROOK AND, UM, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
WAS RICHARD GONNA BE HERE TOO, OR COMING HERE? WE NOT ON THE PHONE.
JUST MAKE SURE THOSE MICS ARE LIGHTS ON.
YEAH, THOSE MICS SEEM TO BE LIVE NOW.
AS LONG AS THEY DON'T ECHO, WE'RE OKAY.
I MEAN, WE COULD REALLY START, I GUESS IF HE'S NOT PICKING UP.
ARE YOU CALLING? I MEAN, HE KNOWS ABOUT THIS, SO.
YEAH, SO YOU JUST, WHY DON'T WE JUST START EXACTLY.
SO MAYBE YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT, UH, THE SERVICES THAT YOU'RE OFFERING.
SHOULD I, UM, KEEP THE MASK ON WHILE WE YES, SURE.
SO JUST, UH, LET, IF WE COULD START WITH INTRODUCTIONS.
I'M A SENIOR PRINCIPAL WITH WOODARD AND KERN.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE TOWN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT.
WE APPRECIATE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT, UH, THE TOWN OVER THE YEARS.
AND I HAVE WITH ME, UH, DAVE WHITE, WHO'S OUR STORMWATER PRACTICE LEADER NATIONALLY.
UH, AND, UM, I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE HIM HERE THIS EVENING.
AND IN ADDITION, AND I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S TIED IN, BUT HE DID CALL IN ON THE NUMBER THAT WAS PROVIDED.
AND SO JOE KIRBY IS ALSO WITH US VIRTUALLY.
AND, UH, AND, AND JOE IS, UH, FORMERLY WORKED WITH FEMA FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
UH, AND HE IS A KEY PART OF THE WOODEN AND CURRENT TEAM AS IT RELATES TO FLOOD MITIGATION WORK THAT WE DO, UH, ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER, HOW ARE YOU? UM, SO I'LL START WITH JUST SOME BRIEF INTRODUCTIONS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AS WELL.
BUT, UM, I WANTED TO KIND OF START WITH, UM, WHERE WE STARTED, WHICH IS MEETING, UH, WITH D P W, UH, ABOUT SPECIFICALLY TROUBLESOME BROOK AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, THE PROBLEMATIC AREAS, HISTORICAL FLOODING, UH, THAT YOU ALL KNOW VERY WELL, UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, AND WE HAD, WE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, INFORMATION THAT EXISTS, INFORMATION THAT DOES NOT EXIST, AND THEN AN APPROACH MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD THAT AREA BE STUDIED.
WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, UH, THROUGH THE COUNTY, AND I'LL DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
SO THERE WERE SOME REAL GOOD DISCUSSIONS.
WE ENDED UP HAVING FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATIONS.
THE SUPERVISOR WAS PART OF THAT.
COUNCILWOMAN, UH, JACKSON AND, UH, COUNCILMAN SHEEN WERE PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL, OF COURSE WITH, WITH THE COMMISSIONER, UH, AND BRIAN SIMMONS JOINING US ALSO.
AND IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS, IN ADDITION TO THE APPROACH ON, ON HOW TO STUDY TROUBLESOME BROOK AND INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE COUNTY WESTCHESTER COUNTY'S, UH, WHAT THEY REFER TO AS THEIR STORMWATER LAW PROGRAM.
SO A FEW YEARS BACK, UH, I BELIEVE MAYBE BACK IN 2013 OR SO, UH, THE COUNTY DID A RECONNAISSANCE REPORT AND THEY IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF, UH, PROBLEMATIC AREAS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT THEY WANTED TO FOCUS ON AS PART OF THIS COUNTYWIDE PROGRAM WHERE THERE WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT MUNICIPALITIES HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE COUNTY, UM, AND, AND INDICATE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS, UM, WHATEVER LIMITED INFORMATION THEY MAY HAVE.
AND SO THE INTENT WAS FOR THE COUNTY TO THEN, UH, PROVIDE FUNDING TO START WITH A PRELIMINARY STUDY, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ANALYSIS, WHICH INCLUDED MODELING AND OTHER THINGS.
UH, SO TYPICALLY THE PROCESS, AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THAT QUICKLY.
THAT COUNTY PROGRAM, UH, INCLUDES REVIEWING A PROPOSED SCOPE OF WORK FOR PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING STUDY, WHICH INCLUDES THE MODELING.
UH, AND THEN FROM THERE, IN COORDINATION WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THERE'S A MEETING WITH THE COMMITTEE, THE STORMWATER COMMITTEE, UH, AND THERE'S A PRESENTATION TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT FORMAL, INFORMAL PRESENTATION, UH, WITH THE STORMWATER COMMITTEE.
FROM THERE, THEY VOTE ON, HEY, DOES
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IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD TO FUND THE PROJECT? NOW, FUNDING, UH, AND HOW IT'S DEFINE FOR THIS PROGRAM IS 50%, UH, IS PAID FOR BY, BY THE COUNTY, AND THEY'RE 50% BY, BY THE MUNICIPALITY.UH, SO IN THIS CASE, WE'RE TROUBLESOME BROOK.
AFTER HAVING OUR CONVERSATIONS, OUR CONFERENCE CALL, UH, WE CONTACTED THE FOLKS THAT WE KNOW AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING A SIMILAR PROJECT FOR THE VILLAGE OF LARCHMONT, UH, THE PINE BROOK, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND SO WE KNOW THE FOLKS THERE WELL, AND SO WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT TROUBLESOME BROOK AND, UH, WENT THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EXPERIENCES THAT THE TOWN HAS HAD RECENT EXPERIENCES, UNFORTUNATELY WITH IDA.
UM, AND WE WENT THROUGH A, A DRAFT APPROACH THAT WE DEVELOPED ON HOW WE WOULD STUDY TROUBLESOME BROOKE.
AND, UM, THEY PROVIDED SOME COMMENTS, AS AN EXAMPLE, THEY WANTED TO INCLUDE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
I MENTIONED THAT TO THE SUPERVISOR, UH, WHICH MAKES PERFECT SENSE, AND TO DO AN ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS.
SO WE'RE NOT FOCUSED ON ONE SPECIFIC ALTERNATIVE, WHICH WE WOULDN'T BE ANYWAY, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS INCLUDED AS WELL.
SO THERE WAS SOME, I WOULD THINK, SOME VERY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY SAID IS, HEY, LOOK, TROUBLESOME BROOK, UH, IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE RECONNAISSANCE REPORT THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, AND THEREFORE, UH, THAT JUST PROVIDES A MUCH HIGHER PROBABILITY IN TERMS OF THE COUNTY WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD.
THEY INDICATED THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT TYPE OF PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY LIKES TO SEE AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
AND THEN THE, AND THAT THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO MEET WITH THE STORMWATER COMMITTEE.
AS I SAID EARLIER, FOLLOWING THE PROCESS, UM, IN NOVEMBER, I BELIEVE IT'S NOVEMBER 14TH, SO MID-NOVEMBER, WE WOULD MEET WITH THE STORMWATER COMMITTEE PRIOR TO MEETING WITH THE COMMITTEE.
THEY WANT US TO, UH, TOGETHER WITH THE TOWN TO SUBMIT, UH, AN APPLICATION.
THE APPLICATION HAS A BUNCH OF INFORMATION NEEDS THAT WE'LL WORK TOGETHER WITH D P W TO PUT TOGETHER.
ONE OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT THE APPLICATION HAS IS A TOWN BOARD RESOLUTION.
I GUESS THEY WANT TO SEE THE COMMITMENT FROM THE MUNICIPALITY END OF THINGS.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE APPLICATION WITH ME, BUT, UM, THE, I BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONER MAY HAVE A COPY.
UM, SO ONCE THAT'S PREPARED, SUBMITTED, AND YOU'RE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING, LET'S SAY FROM THERE, ONCE THEY GIVE THE, OKAY, THEN IT GOES TO THE BOARD OF LEGISLATORS, AND THEN THEY VOTE ON IT, AND THEN YOU MOVE FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE COMMITMENT FROM THE COUNTY FORMALLY ON THE FUNDING FOR THE STUDY PORTION OF THE WORK.
NOW THE, UH, THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE TOWN IS WHAT PERCENT? IT'S, IT'S A 50 50, UH, SHARE.
SO WHAT, WHAT ABOUT, WHAT WOULD THAT COST? IS IT ABOUT 360 SOMETHING? SO WE, SO WE SUBMITTED A, UH, PROPOSAL TO THE TOWN MM-HMM.
AND THEN AFTER HAVING THE INITIAL MEETING WITH THE COUNTY, AND THEY PROVIDED THE COMMENTS TO INCLUDE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND OTHER THINGS, WE REVISED THAT STUDY AND RESUBMITTED IT, UH, DATED SEPTEMBER 29TH.
AND, UM, SO, SO THAT IS THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WOULD GO INTO THE COUNTY.
I DON'T, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT DATE? DO YOU WANT, I THINK IT WAS LIKE IN THE UPPER MID THREE HUNDREDS.
IT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
DO, DO YOU WANT TO, UM, ROUTE IT AROUND OR WE HAVE EXTRA COPIES? MAKE SURE, DO YOU HAVE EXTRA COPIES? RIGHT.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE
AND, AND I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THERE'S UPFRONT WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SERVE AS A BASIS FOR THE STUDY.
FOR EXAMPLE, SURVEYS, GETTING UPDATED, SURVEY INFORMATION, UH, EVALUATING EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE OUT AT THE SITE.
SEE, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO THESE TYPES OF STUDIES, YOU INITIALLY FOCUS ON AVAILABLE DATA AND THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION, WELL, WHAT, WHERE ARE THE GAPS? RIGHT.
WHERE DO YOU NEED TO KIND OF FILL IN? SO SOME OF THE INFORMATION, UH, THAT WAS GENERATED WAS HELPFUL IN THE PAST.
THERE WAS, UH, UH, SOME WORK DONE BY THE TOWN LAST YEAR.
SO WE TOOK SOME OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGER THINGS IS NEEDING ADDITIONAL SURVEY INFORMATION, EVALUATING THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, OF COURSE.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY JUST ABOUT CAPACITY, IT'S ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL, SO THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF CAN WE DEPEND ON WHAT'S THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE SIZE, YOU KNOW, MAKING DECISIONS ON THE TYPE OF PIPE MATERIAL AND OTHER THINGS.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST WHEN WE DID THE D P W STUDY FOR YOU ALL RIGHT.
TO HAVE AN INVENTORY OF EXISTING BURIED INFRASTRUCTURE.
CAN ANY OF THAT BE DONE IN HOUSE, BRIAN, WHEN HE WAS WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT? OH, SORRY.
BRIAN, WHEN HE WAS WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, DID AN, A VERY, UH, THOROUGH STUDY OF THE ISSUES, THE HISTORIC ISSUES, UM,
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IN THE RESPECT TO INVENTORY.I'M SURE THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD WORK ON.
UH, WE ARE KIND OF INUNDATED RIGHT NOW WITH, UM, OH, OH, JUST, UH, POST HURRICANE
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST, SORRY, HURRICANE, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, REALLY OVERWHELMING TO THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, I DO WANNA SAY THEY'VE DONE AN UNBELIEVABLE JOB ON, ON ADDRESSING THE ISSUES.
UH, I THINK IN RESPECT TO ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE RIGHT NOW, WE MIGHT BE DOWN TO 50 OPEN ISSUES.
UM, AND SOME OF THEM ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT.
UH, WE'VE ALSO TALKED WITH, UH, ANTHONY AND HIS GROUP ABOUT THE ISSUE OUT AT, UM, THE FAIRGROUNDS WITH THE MANHATTAN BROOK.
WHICH IS, BY THE WAY, ON THE COUNTY'S LIST AS WELL.
SO I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I SPENT LIKE ABOUT FOUR HOURS ON WARREN AVENUE AND FLORENCE OVER THE WEEKEND, AND I WAS JUST SPEAKING TO LIKE MANY PEOPLE.
AND YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT WE'RE, IF WE'RE DOING TROUBLESOME BROOKE, WE SHOULD ALSO DO WARREN AND FLORENCE.
AND, UH, THAT AT THE SAME TIME.
AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL SO WE COULD AT LEAST, UH, TAKE, YOU KNOW, ONE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE TROUBLESOME BROOKE, AND ONE FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FAIR REVIEW SECTION, YOU KNOW, THESE, THOSE ARE TWO MAJOR ONES.
AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, EXPAND IT TO, YOU KNOW, MARION AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE HARTSDALE AREAS.
BUT DEFINITELY WARREN AND I FEEL IS, IS TO ME LIKE A VERY MAJOR PRIORITY.
SO, AND WE, WE'VE STARTED TO TALK TO 'EM ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, I THINK I SENT AROUND AN EMAIL THIS WEEKEND.
OUR TEAM, THEY WERE DOING WORK BEHIND THE, UH, LOIS BRONZE CENTER THIS WEEKEND.
AND JOE ALBO, THE GENERAL FOREMAN OF THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, ACTUALLY WALKED THE BROOK AND HE FOUND A SUBSTANTIAL BLOCKAGE ON THE STATE PROPERTY, UH, UNDER ONE 19.
UH, AND WE EMAILED THE STATE, UM, RESIDENT ENGINEER DID GET BACK TODAY.
HE SAID THEY'RE GONNA INVESTIGATE.
UH, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AND WE'LL OBVIOUSLY SHARE THAT WITH EVERYBODY.
BUT THAT AREA REALLY GOT IMPACTED.
THE OTHER AREA WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE STATE TO GET THEIR PROPERTY CLEANED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, I KNOW TIM, OH, HE'S GONE.
TIM WAS WORKING WITH THE RESIDENT TO KIND OF GET ACCESS THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY TO GO BACK AND CLEAN THIS AREA.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT IS STATE PROPERTY OFF TOPFER ROAD.
UM, AGAIN, WE REACHED OUT TO THE STATE TO TRY TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET THE AREA CLEANED UP.
UH, IT APPEARS NOW THAT THERE'S PERMITTING ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING, POSSIBLY.
SO WE'RE NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GONNA PROCEED NOW.
UM, BUT THAT AREA'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO DO WE, DO YOU FEEL THAT, UM, SAY THE WARREN AVENUE MANHATTAN BROOK, UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO IN-HOUSE? OR ARE WE GONNA NEED THE SERVICES OF WOODEN AND CURRENT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WOULD WE BE ABLE TO, IF WE NEED THE SERVICES, WHEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT PRIORITY? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN FAIRVIEW TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE FOCUSING ON TROUBLESOME BROOK, BUT WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, WE LOST EVERYTHING.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE, I MEAN, I MEAN, PEOPLE, IT WAS REALLY HORRIBLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SPOKE TO PEOPLE, WELL, THAT THE, THE MANHATTAN BROOK DESERVES THE SAME ATTENTION WE'RE GIVING TO THE TROUBLESOME BROOK.
WE DON'T HAVE THE TYPE OF INFORMATION ON THE, UH, MANHATTAN BROOK AS WE DO ON THE TROUBLESOME BROOK.
TROUBLESOME BROOK HAS BEEN A VERY HISTORIC, UH, ISSUE THAT I THINK BRIAN DOCUMENTED BACK TO THE SIXTIES.
UM, BUT CLEARLY THE MANHATTAN BROOK, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEVASTATION TO THE, THE T D Y C C, THE CENTER, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE, UH, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WHERE THEY, THE SPORT COURT WAS BLOWN UP ONE WEEK WITH THE STORM PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, DID AN UNBELIEVABLE JOB RESTORING IT, PUTTING EVERYTHING BACK.
THEN A WEEK LATER IT'S GONE AGAIN.
BUT THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS LIKE, WOULD IT MAKE, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WE'RE NOT READY RIGHT NOW TO HAVE A PROPOSAL.
WOULD IT MAKE, UM, SENSE IF WE ARE PASSING A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING, UH, THE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR TROUBLESOME BROOKE TO MAYBE PASS ANOTHER RESOLUTION, UH, YOU KNOW, ASKING YOU TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL FOR MANHATTAN BROOK, BECAUSE THIS WAY WE COULD DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
CAN THAT BE SCHEDULED THOUGH, ACCORDING TO WHAT YOUR
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SCHEDULE OUTLINE HERE CAN HAVE BE SCHEDULED FOR THAT? YES.AND, AND, AND, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON.
SO WE'VE ACTUALLY, UH, INVESTED A LITTLE BIT OF OUR OWN TIME TO KIND OF GO THROUGH INFORMATION THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER.
I JUST WANNA PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE.
THE STUDY AREA FOR MANHATTAN BROOK IS SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDER OF, UH, UH, 3.3, I THINK IT'S 3.3 SQUARE MILES.
IS THAT WHAT IT IS ABOUT? THAT IS, YEAH.
VERSUS TROUBLESOME BROOK, WHICH IS MORE LIKE 1.8 SQUARE MILES MM-HMM.
SO IT JUST KINDA GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.
HOWEVER, THE APPROACH WOULD BE VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE.
SO WOULD WE GET A, A COST ESTIMATE AS TO YEAH, WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTING TO PUT THAT TOGETHER NOW.
UM, WE INITIALLY HAD PRIORITIZED TROUBLESOME BROOKE, BECAUSE THOSE WERE THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS MM-HMM.
AND SO NOW THAT WE HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THE TOWN HAS AND DOESN'T HAVE MM-HMM.
I MENTIONED TO THE COMMISSIONER OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING OVER THAT YOU CAN REVIEW.
WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE TIMELINE TO SEE HOW WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TRY AND SEE IT AND DO THINGS SOMEWHAT CONCURRENTLY.
UM, I THINK THAT, AND MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, BUT TO THINK ABOUT STRATEGICALLY, UM, IN MEETING WITH THE COUNTY, DO WE, AND AND OFTENTIMES THEY DO LOOK THAT, HEY, IF THEY'RE GONNA SCHEDULE A, A STORMWATER COMMITTEE MEETING, THAT THEY LISTEN TO AS MANY PRESENTATIONS AS THEY CAN.
BUT DO WE GO AND WE JUST FOCUS ON TROUBLESOME BROOKE IN THAT PRESENTATION IN NOVEMBER? OR, AND WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO ALSO DISCUSS MM-HMM.
I, I JUST REALLY, UH, MY PER, I'M JUST SPEAKING PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT, UH, THE, I DON'T WANT THEM TO SAY, OH, WE DID SOMETHING FOR GREENBURG, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA NEGLECT, YOU KNOW, THE WARREN ON AVENUE.
I THINK THE WARREN ON AVENUE MANHATTAN BROOK IS AS, AS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE, IT'S ALL GREENBERG ALL GREEN.
I'M, SO, THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED.
NO, I'M SAYING I WOULD LIKE, I THINK WE SHOULD DO BOTH PRESENTATIONS ALMOST WITH THE COUNTY AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE, IF, IF WE, IF THE COUNTY GIVES US, YOU KNOW, FUNDING FOR ONE, AND THEN WE COME BACK TWO MONTHS LATER OR THREE MONTHS LATER AND WE ASK FOR ANOTHER THING, THEY COULD SAY, WE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WHOLE BIG COUNTY.
WE, WE ALREADY DID ONE THING, YOU KNOW, DID SOMETHING FOR YOU.
AND THEN THE WARREN ON AVENUE AND FLORENCE COULD BE ON THE BACK BURNER.
AND I THINK IF WE COULD DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THEM FUNDED.
I MEAN, I REALLY, I MEAN, TO ME, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AMOUNT OF DEVASTATION IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ON WARREN AND FLORENCE WHO LOST EVERYTHING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY JUST CAN'T, PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD IT, YOU KNOW, IS PEOPLE REALLY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
THEY DON'T HAVE SOME PEOPLE I SAW, UM, UM, ON SATURDAY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY INSURANCE MM-HMM.
UM, SO THIS IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THIS IS LIKE VERY, VERY, UH, DEVASTATING TO THEM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S DEVASTATING TO EVERYBODY, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU LOSE EVERYTHING AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE INSURANCE, THEN, SO LIKE, JUST SOMETHING NOW, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING A STUDY TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S AN INITIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND THEN THERE'LL BE OTHER MONIES THAT IN ORDER TO TRY TO, TO REMEDIATE WHAT, WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
BUT I WAS WONDERING, IS THERE ANY MONIES, ARE THERE ANY MONIES AVAILABLE FOR THAT NEXT STATE STEP? SO THAT'S A GREAT, SO THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
SO, UH, ON A PARALLEL PATH WITH HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ALL AND PUTTING THE PROPOSAL TOGETHER, WE HAVE ALSO, UH, ENGAGED LAURA TESSIER, WHO WORKS FOR WOODED AND KERN, AND YOU'VE MET HER BEFORE MM-HMM.
SHE USED TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY FOR MANY YEARS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND SHE LEADS OUR GRANT AND FUNDING TEAM AS WELL.
SO SHE IS LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES, UH, AT DIFFERENT GRANT AND FUNDING PROGRAMS THAT COULD PERHAPS APPLY TO THIS HERE.
UM, SO THE ANSWER IS THAT'S IN PROGRESS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.
BECAUSE THE WHOLE THING IS, THE STUDY IS STILL NOT GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM.
IT'S GONNA IDENTIFY IT AND TELL US HOW TO FIX IT.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL.
IT'S A COMBINATION OF, OKAY, SO THE COUNTY'S PROGRAM, I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED EARLIER, THE COUNTY'S PROGRAM IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS.
SO THE FIRST STEP IS TO SECURE THE FUNDING FOR THE STUDY, UM, MM-HMM.
AND THEN FROM THE STUDY, AND THEN DEVELOPING A PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE THAT THE TOWN AND, AND
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WE ALL AGREE UPON MOVING TO THE FINAL DESIGN STAGE, UH, THEY THEN GO AHEAD AND ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THAT.AND THEN CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.
SO THEIR PROGRAM REALLY IS FOR STUDY DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS TO LOOK AT, ARE THERE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS BESIDES THE COUNTY PROGRAM? WE CAN KIND OF PIECE IT TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
SO IF PRESIDENT, BUT, UH, BIDEN GETS HIS, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATIVE, THERE MAY BE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR RESILIENCY IS BIG, I THINK.
I THINK THAT THE, THE DECISION FOR US THOUGH IS HOW MUCH MONEY, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT OVERALL? AND HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE COMMITTING THE TOWN TO? AND WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO THIS, BUT HOW, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS WORK? SO, GOOD POINT.
UH, THAT, SO THE STUDY HELPS TO INFORM THE FUTURE DECISION MAKING, RIGHT? SURE, SURE.
AND WHEN I SAY FUTURE DECISION MAKING, FOCUSING ON THE PREFERRED APPROACH FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, UH, WHAT ARE THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS? THEN YOU HAVE YOUR ARMS AROUND THAT.
AND THEN IT ALSO, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, IT HELPS YOU TO THEN INCREASE THE PROBABILITY FOR SECURING ADDITIONAL FUNDING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO YOU, YOU'VE HEARD OF TERMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, BEING SHOVEL READY AND MM-HMM.
AND SO THE FARTHER YOU ADVANCE THINGS WHERE YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE SMART DECISIONS, UH, WHETHER IT'S AT THE STATE LEVEL OR AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THE GRANT AND FUNDING PROGRAMS LOOK AT THAT VERY FAVORABLY.
THERE WAS A COUNTY LEGISLATOR BEFORE YOU GO ON, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, THIS IS WHAT RICH WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THIS.
SO THIS IS, UH, ROUTE ONE 19 MM-HMM.
AND THAT CERTAINLY WASN'T THERE BEFORE THE STORM.
SO THAT'S ALMOST A COMPLETE, UH, BLOCKAGE OF THAT ONE CULVERT THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BROUGHT TO THE STATE'S ATTENTION.
AND, UM, AND WHY DID YOU BRING IT TO THE STATE'S ATTENTION? 'CAUSE IT'S A STATE'S PROBLEM.
OH, IT'S, IT'S THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS IS, THIS IS THEIR, THAT'S NOT GONNA THE LEAD HERE.
THIS IS, UH, THIS IS, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE PROBLEMS, UM, THAT WE ARE FACED WITH NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH STORMWATER AND WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THE WORLD, A LOT OF THESE AREN'T JUST TOWN PROBLEMS. MM-HMM.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING, AGAIN, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THE TOWN COULD JUST GO IN AND TAKE CARE OF.
SIMILAR, WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES WHERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE OR STATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE MAINTENANCE OF IT.
SO THIS, THAT ONE, OH, THERE'S SOMEONE UP THERE.
OH, THAT ONE WAS, UM, CLEARLY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STATE HAS TO GO IN AND THEY HAVE TO CLEAN IT UP AND THEY HAVE TO DO IT IMMEDIATELY.
SO WE DID GET WORD BACK TODAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN ON HOW TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT THAT'S CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE.
THEY ALSO HAVE ISSUES WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
IT'S, THERE'S A LOT PAST US THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, DEAL WITH OTHER AGENCIES THAT LISTEN, THEY NEED TO COME IN AND HELP SENATOR.
UH, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO GIVE US PERMISSION TO BE EVEN IN THERE, BECAUSE THERE WERE TIMES WHEN THEY TOLD US WE CAN'T, WE COULDN'T GO IN THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ALL BLOCKED UP AND THEY WEREN'T GONNA DO IT.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND, AND GROUPS THROUGH THE COUNTY.
THERE'S ONE IN THE SOMO RIVER, THERE'S ONE, ONE IN THE BRONX RIVER.
UM, UH, AND FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M ON THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
UM, BRIAN JUST ATTENDED A MEETING ON THE BRONX RIVER.
I ATTENDED ONE ON THE SOMO RIVER.
YOU HAVE TO GO IN AND, AND ASK PERMISSION TO CLEAN UP PROPERTIES THAT ARE ULTIMATELY IMPACTING YOUR RESIDENTS AND, AND PROPERTIES SO THAT THEY SHOULD BE CLEANING UP.
SO LET ME, LET ME, HOW, HOW CAN WE BE PROACTIVE HERE? IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN PUT SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT IN PLACE SO WHEN WE HAVE THESE EMERGENCY ISSUES LIKE THIS, THAT WE CAN GO ON THERE? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY STATE PROPERTY TO FIX.
SO FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE SOMO RIVER, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR BIG HEADACHES MM-HMM.
I THINK THE MOST PROACTIVE THING WE COULD DO RIGHT NOW IS FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE, WE KNOW WE'VE STARTED WITH WOODARD, 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN, ESPECIALLY WITH TROUBLESOME BROOK MM-HMM.
SO WE REALLY HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
WE COULD DO CERTAIN MAINTENANCE THINGS, BUT THERE'S A BIGGER PROBLEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA ISN'T A FLOODWAY.
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YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS MM-HMM.UM, BUT THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO.
WE ON OUR END, YOU KNOW, AS WE PROMISED WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE MM-HMM.
SO WE'LL BE TAKING THEIR OLDER EQUIPMENT TO THE HIGHWAY GARAGE.
'CAUSE OUR JET TRUCK DOWN THERE NOW IS REALLY OUTDATED AND ANTIQUATED, AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT MORE DONE WITH THAT TRUCK.
SO A JET TRUCK IS SOMETHING WE YES.
WE, UH, WE USE TO CLEAN OUT STORM DRAINS, SEWER LINES, PIPES.
IT'S GOT A, A VACUUM ON IT WITH A VECTOR YEP.
AND WE ALSO, IT ALSO GOT, SO IT'S VERY, VERY EFFECTIVE IN CLEANING OUT, UM, THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, AND THE ONE WE HAVE AT THE HIGHWAY IS QUITE OUTDATED AND IT BREAKS DOWN QUITE OFTEN.
UM, BUT IN REFERENCE TO STATE, WE'RE GONNA START DOING A LOT OF THE INSPECTIONS.
HOW LONG IS THIS GONNA TAKE? BECAUSE I'M WITHOUT A HOME, I'M WITHOUT, I NEED TO KNOW SOMETHING.
I NEED SOME SORT OF MEDIATION.
SO TELL ME HOW LONG THIS PROCESS IS GONNA TAKE.
SO, SO, UH, TO CLARIFY, WHEN YOU SAY THIS PROCESS, HOW, SO NOW WE, SO NOW WE, YOU JUST, YOU JUST OUTLINED THAT WE, NOW WE HAVE TO DO SOME WORK AS FAR AS REVIEWING EVERYTHING.
TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THE STUDIES WE HAVE TO DO, COME UP WITH THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
SO THAT WHOLE PROCESS IN WHICH YOU JUST DESCRIBED EARLIER, HOW LONG IS THAT GONNA TAKE? YEAH.
APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR, TWO YEAR, SIX MONTHS, NO MONTHS.
IF YOU COULD BRING THE MICROPHONES CLOSER.
'CAUSE BOTH OF YOU ARE SITTING BACK.
WE, WE DID LAY OUT, UH, A SCHEDULE IN THE SCOPE OF WORK LETTER THAT WE PREPARED.
AND THEN IN THE STUDY ITSELF, WE SAID, WHAT WAS IT, FOUR MONTHS? WE, WE, I THINK WE SAID SIX MONTHS FOR THE STUDY.
UM, AT WHICH POINT WE'D BE BACK HERE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD TO DO A PRESENTATION AS TO THE FINDINGS OF THE STUDY, THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE DEVELOPED, UM, ALONG WITH THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS FOR THOSE ALTERNATIVES SO THAT DECISIONS CAN STOP BEING MADE.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES MM-HMM.
SO WHAT WE DID DISCUSS IS AS A WAY TO EXPEDITE, SO IT'S, IT'S SIX MONTHS OR PERHAPS MAYBE A LITTLE LESS FROM THE GREEN LIGHT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND THEN, SO IT'S A MATTER OF, WELL, WHEN IS THE GO? RIGHT? SO IS THE GO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY.
THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMMITMENT, ALBEIT IT'S NOT A FORMAL, UH, I M A BETWEEN, UH, THE, THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY AT THIS POINT.
UH, BUT SO THERE IS THAT PROCESS TO GO THROUGH WITH THE COUNTY WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, GOING TO MEET WITH THE COMMITTEE IN NOVEMBER, THEN THEY GIVE THE, OKAY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GET ON WITH THE COUNTY LEGISLATORS PROBABLY IN JANUARY WITH THE HOLIDAYS IS MY GUESS.
AND THEN WHEN ALL SAID AND DONE, THE COUNTY PROVIDES SOMETHING IN WRITING IN LATE JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.
SO ONE WAY TO GET THAT PROCESS STARTED SOONER IS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY.
AND THEY THEN THE TOWN BASICALLY JUST BALANCING WHAT RISK MAY BE INVOLVED WITH STARTING SOONER.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CUT, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO START, IF YOU STARTED THE STUDY BEFORE, THE COUNTY PROCESS IS ARE COMPLETE IN FEBRUARY, YOU'RE GAINING, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR MONTHS RIGHT THERE.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT HELPS.
SENATOR SCHUMER, UM, ANNOUNCED THAT THERE'S FUNDING FROM AMAC FOR THEIR, UH, UH, STORM WATER, UH, EFFORTS.
UH, WOULD THE FUNDING THAT HE SECURED, 'CAUSE I READ THE, HIS PRESS RELEASE, WOULD THAT INCLUDE TROUBLESOME BROOKE? OR WAS THAT JUST A EARMARKED, UH, YOU KNOW, FUNDING APPROPRIATION? YES.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF WHAT HE COMMITTED.
MY GUESS IS, 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE GOING AROUND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SITES.
MY GUESS IS THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO, UH, THE MAERK RIVER AREA.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THOSE AVAILABLE PROGRAMS FROM THE TOWN.
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INCLUDING, INCLUDING THESE PROGRAMS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.BECAUSE I'M SORT OF THINKING, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M SORRY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M FOCUSING ON MANHATTAN BROOK, BUT I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, YOU HAVE MANHATTAN AVENUE, YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY IMPACTED.
AND I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO IS, IS LOBBY WASHINGTON TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE EARMARKING FUNDS FOR, UH, FOR
YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE A FEELING THAT WE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WITH MOND DEAR JONES.
AS OUR CONGRESSMAN, I KNOW MINE, YOU PROBABLY COULD GET, UM, UH, FUNDING, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT AREA.
SO I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO, UM, RICH AND BRIAN ABOUT THAT.
SO THEY'RE ALREADY GATHERING A WHOLE, UH, EVIDENCE AND THEN TO SHOW SO WE CAN CONTACT MOND MM-HMM.
SO WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT'S PIECE OF IT.
WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTATION FROM THE STORM THAT'S MM-HMM.
I MEAN, OUR, OURS, OUR, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS, OUR SUGGESTION OR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF, IF THERE IS AN INTENT TO GO MEET WITH THE COUNTY IN NOVEMBER, UH, AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUR SCHEDULES WORK WITH YOUR BOARD, BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE COUNTY THROUGH TOWN BOARD RESOLUTIONS.
AND MANHATTAN BROOK, THAT'S UP TO YOU.
IT'S JUST ONE, IT SOUNDS LIKE MM-HMM.
WE SUBMIT THAT HOPEFULLY GET, AND I THINK WE STILL CAN GET ON THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER.
AND THEN FROM THERE YOU'LL HAVE A LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT, HEY, THE STORMWATER COMMITTEE IS GIVEN THE THUMBS UP.
SO AS OPPOSED TO STARTING TOMORROW, MAYBE IT'S NOVEMBER.
WHICH IS BETTER THAN FEBRUARY.
THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION.
'CAUSE NOW WE'VE OPEN UP AGAINST THE WEATHER.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S OTHER THING CONCERNED TOO.
IS THAT A FACTOR THAT WOULDN'T AFFECT OUR STUDY? PERFECT.
NO, NO, I THINK WE'RE OKAY AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
I MEAN, THAT'S A GOOD POINT ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE, RIGHT? GOD KNOWS.
UH, BUT NO, AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE PRUDENT APPROACH, AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE GAVE YOU FOR TROUBLESOME.
SO YOU HAVE THEM BOTH, AND THEN YOU ALL CAN DECIDE ABOUT A RESOLUTION THAT COULD BE INCLUDED WITH THE APPLICATION MM-HMM.
AND THEN WE WOULD COORDINATE WITH RICH AND BRIAN AND, AND GET ON.
UH, WE, WE HAVE SOME, SOME PULL WITH SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE STONEWATER.
I GOT, HE HAS TO RECUSE HIMSELF,
BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, SO I, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE IN TERMS OF AN APPROACH AND THAT WOULD HELP ACCELERATE THINGS.
SO A LOT OF THIS IS, YOU GOTTEN TO BE MODELING EXISTING FLOODING AND SEEING PARAMETERS THAT, UH, OR WHAT VARIABLES CONTRIBUTED TO THE FLOODING? UH, I THINK MOST RESIDENTS WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT IT? WHAT, WHAT NEW DATA, OTHER THAN GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING THROUGH RECORDS, WHICH I THINK BRIAN HAS DONE QUITE A BIT OF ALREADY.
WHAT NEW DATA WILL YOU BE BRINGING TO THE TABLE AFTER THE SIX MONTHS IS OVER? SURE.
SO I WOULD GO TO DAVE, BUT IF, IF JOE'S ON THE LINE.
JOE, CAN YOU HEAR US? JOE? KIRBY? JOE, I'M NOT GONNA HEAR YOU.
SOME PEOPLE THEY COME IN WITH, YOU KNOW, SUCH A DEEP VOICE.
JOE, DID YOU HEAR THE, THE QUESTION FROM COUNCILMAN SHEEN? YEAH.
AND CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN? I, YOU GUYS SAW PICTURE CULVER.
YOU CERTAINLY CAN SHARE MY SCREEN JUST ABOUT IT.
UH, WE DON'T SEE IT YET, BUT YES, YOU CAN LET ME, UH, LET SEE, ONE OF THE, HE IS DOING THAT.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THE CITY OF NORWALK RIGHT NOW.
SOME SIGNIFICANT FLOODING ISSUES, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN HAS BEEN A REAL KEY AND A REAL BENEFIT IS THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THE TOOLS THAT FOLKS LIKE DAVE AND JOE HAVE WITH TWO D MODELING, SO THAT YOU CAN IN VERY EASY PRETTY PICTURES, SEE WHAT HAPPENS DURING CERTAIN STORM EVENTS AND WHAT AREAS GET INUNDATED AND NOT, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S A VERY USEFUL TOOL BECAUSE TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO THE RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY CAN VISUALIZE IT AND NOT USE YOU, ALL THESE BIG TECHNICAL TERMS THAT ENGINEERS LIKE, IT, IT MAKES IT EASIER TO HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION.
DO YOU HAVE THAT, JOE, OR YEAH, CAN YOU, UH, MY SCREEN? NO, NO.
NO, THAT'S, WELL, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR JOE, BRUCE, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
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BRUCE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH.I CHATTED TO HIM AND I TOLD HIM YES.
OH, OH, CAN, SO BRUCE, UM, PLEASE HANG IN THERE.
UM, WE SHOULD BE GETTING TO YOU SHORTLY.
YEAH, THE SCREEN DOESN'T COME UP, JOE.
WELL, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRESENTATION, UH, WE GAVE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO TO, UM, THE, UH, CALIFORNIA AND ASSOCIATION.
BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS IN HERE THAT MIGHT BE SEE.
UM, BUT BASICALLY WE DO, THE WAY WE MODEL THE, UM, THE AREA, WE LOOK AT THE ENTIRE STUDY AREA.
WE MODEL THE ENTIRE AREA BASICALLY, UH, MODELING ALL THE PIPES.
THAT'S WHAT WE CALL THE ONE D MODEL.
SO ALL THE PIPES, ALL THE DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, USUALLY DOWN TO ABOUT ONE FOOT DIAMETER PIPER OR SMALLER, UH, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT'S COMING FROM OR, OR HEAT PIPE OR NOT.
UM, AND THEN WE MODEL ALL THE OIL FLOW, UM, USING, UH, TERRAINS AND INFILTRATION AND, AND, AND WE END UP BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THE, UM, THE FRONT FOR THE ENTIRE AREA.
SO THIS IS A STUDY, AS ANTHONY WAS SAYING, WE CONNECTICUT.
UM, IT IS, UH, I THINK THIS IS FIVE SOMEWHAT SQUARE MILES, UH, DRAINAGE AREA.
AND, UM, AND WE LOOKED AT THE FLOODING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE, THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.
AND WE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DRILL DOWN AND LOOK AT THINGS.
ONE OF THE, THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGES OF THIS TYPE OF STUDY IS YOU CAN SEE THE WATER MOVE.
THIS IS THE VALUE OF THAT, IS UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE FLOODING IS COMING FROM AND WHERE THE FLOODING IS GOING AND WHY THINGS ARE FLOODING.
NOT JUST THAT FLOODS, NOT JUST THAT GETS UP TO THIS ELEVATION.
UH, WE CAN LOOK AT WHY AND WHEN, HOW LONG AREAS ARE FLOODED.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS, UH, THIS VIDEO IS SHOWING YOU HERE.
IT'S SHOWING YOU THE, IT'S BASICALLY REINVENT, UH, THAT'S GOING THROUGH THIS STUDY AREA.
AND, UM, AS IT STARTS, IT FILLS UP THE, THE LITTLE AREA IN THE MIDDLE CALLED FRIENDLY POND.
AND, UH, THAT'S WHERE THE WATER COLLECTS AND THEN EXITS THE SYSTEM, UM, TO A, A FORK OUT HERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
THIS IS, UH, THIS IS SOME VERY, UH, VALUABLE DATA.
UM, AND I'M GONNA GO A LITTLE OUTTA ORDER HERE.
BUT WE ALSO, WE ALSO LOOK AT THE, THE ONE D, UH, PIPE SYSTEM.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THE DEFICIENCIES IN THE, UH, IN THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
WE CAN LOOK AT THE FLOW THROUGH ALL THE PIPES.
UH, WE CAN SEE HOW FULL THEY GET, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT, UM, AT WHAT DATE THEIR STORM IS, WE CAN SEE WHERE THE BACKUP HAPPENED.
UM, WE CAN SEE, UH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, FLOOR HAPPENS TO GO IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
UM, AND, UH, A LITTLE BETTER EXAMPLE OF THAT IS, I'LL SEE IF I CAN MAKE THIS LITTLE BIGGER FROM THIS HERE.
THIS IS JUST A PLAN VIEW OF THE SAME PIPE.
AND THE KEY PIPE IS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, KIND OF A FLOOR LINE MOVING TO THE LEFT AND THEN DOWN.
THIS IS IT, IT FLOWS FROM THE, UH, TOP RIGHT TO THE BOTTOM LEFT.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT INITIALLY, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS ORDER ACTUALLY IS GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE FIND THAT REALLY BE FOUND THIS TYPE OF MODEL, UH, WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY WATCHING THE WATER AND THE REAL VOLUMES PULL AROUND.
AND THIS IS ONE OF OUR CALENDAR.
THIS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IN THE, IN NORWALK LOT.
IT WAS PROBABLY A WET AREA, AND THEY BUILT BY THE HOUSES IN HERE, THE AREA.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE REASON FOR FLOODING THIS, THESE SYMBOLS JUST MEAN THAT ALL THESE, UH, PIPES ARE SURGING AND WATER POPPING OUT OF THE PIPES.
UM, AND THIS TYPE OF ING ALLOWS US TO DO THIS.
AND SO WE WILL INVESTIGATE, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE AREA AND THEN WE'LL PICK AREAS LIKE THIS AND SHOW THEM TO YOU AND SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE.
AND THIS ALLOWS US TO PRIORITIZE, UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR MITIGATION, UH, BECAUSE
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THE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS TRUNK LINE RIGHT HERE IS NOT JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDER SIZE NOW BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, BUT IT'S ALSO FLOW IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.BUT DOESN'T, IT TRULY ADDS TO THE FLOODING IN THIS AREA HERE.
UM, WHICH IN, WHEN PREVIOUS PEOPLE LOOKED AT IT AND WE JUST RAN STANDARD DESIGN CUTS, HYDRAULIC GRADE LINES, YOU DON'T SEE THIS REVERSE LAW.
SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, UM, THAT WE HAVE AND, UH, THOSE AT OUR DISPOSAL.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN SHOW YOU IMPROVEMENTS.
THESE ARE, UM, TWO DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES.
AND THESE RAS SHOW THE REDUCTION IN FLOODING IN THESE AREAS.
SO WE CAN SAY, OKAY, IF YOU PUT IN THE PIPE, THIS IS THE REDUCTION WE HAVE.
IF YOU PUT IN THIS PIPE, THIS IS THE REDUCTION WE HAVE.
AND IT IS LESS AREA, MAYBE, UH, BUT WE HAVE DEEPER REDUCTION.
SO THE WATER LEVEL IN THIS AREA, THAT'S THE SAME AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS MINUTE AGO, UM, AGO.
IT'S, UH, SOUTH ROAD, IT GETS, UH, MUCH SHOWER.
UM, THE OTHER THING WE UNDERSTAND IS WHEN WE COMBINE THESE TWO, WHAT HAPPENED, UM, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT THE ALLOWS US TO DO IS TIMING WATER AND WHEN AND HOW.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU HAVE THESE TWO TOGETHER, THEY'RE NOT JUST GONNA GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, HERE REDUCTION HERE.
THEY'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A THIRD SCENARIO, THIRD SOLUTION.
AND SO YOU, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UM, WE HAVE FOUND IT, UH, VERY VALUABLE IN TRYING TO REALLY NARROW DOWN WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE AND WHERE WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THAT COST ANALYSIS AGAINST SOME, UH, USING JUST A FEW MORE SLIDES, COUPLE DIFFERENT, UM, PROGRAMS AND TOOLS WE'VE USED TO, UH, TO DO THE STUDIES AND THE, THE DATA WE HAVE.
SO, SO THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT WHEN WE PUT PRESENTATION TOGETHER LIKE THIS AND, UH, SHOW, UM, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN THE EXISTING CONDITION.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD SHOW THE ALTERNATIVES WE'RE PROPOSING AND HOW THEY WILL DO.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA.
UM, BUT UH, SO WE'LL MOVE AHEAD.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S SUPPORTIVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BOTH MANHATTAN, BROOKE AND, AND TROUBLESOME.
AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK ON THAT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'LL GET ON THE AGENDA, WE'LL TRY TO GET ON THE AGENDA.
WE'LL WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONER.
NO, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY MODELING IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE DATA THAT YOU HAVE.
UH, BRIAN, DO WE HAVE SUFFICIENT DATA INCLUDING FOR YONKERS BECAUSE TROUBLESOME BROOK GOES INTO YONKERS TO PROVIDE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE $30 MILLION.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATA ON WHAT THE CITY OF YONKERS INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDES.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO REQUEST AND WORK WITH THEM ON.
UM, BUT PART OF THIS STUDY WILL ALSO INCLUDE GOING OUT, DOING SOME OF THAT FIELD RECONNAISSANCE AND JUST CONFIRMING WHAT, WHAT OUR SYSTEM HAS AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO TO ALSO BE INCLUDED.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T GET THAT FROM THE PROPOSAL.
YOU'LL ACTUALLY BE MEASURING PIPE, IS IT MEASURING PIPE OR IT'S, UH, THE SITE RECONNAISSANCE? YEAH.
WE'LL DO SOME VISUAL OBSERVATIONS OF WHAT WE CAN SEE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GET INTO THE PIPES.
UM, AND WE'RE NOT, BUT WE ARE GONNA GET OUT THERE AND CONFIRM THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON RECORD DRAWINGS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING YOU TRY TO VERIFY APPEARS TO BE INSTALLED.
BECAUSE IN SOME PLACES THERE'S A DISPUTE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A SIX INCH PIPE.
IT'S A SIX FOOT PIPE GOING INTO A FOUR FOOT PIPE OR FOUR FOOT PIPE GOING INTO A THREE FOOT PIPE, WHICH OF COURSE NEVER HELPS ANYBODY
IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK THAT WAY.
SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS, I DON'T DEAL WITH, THAT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
I'M SORRY, AS A GOOD EXAMPLE WITH THE CITYWIDE PLAINS.
WE DID A, A CITYWIDE, UH, STUDY FOR THEIR STORMWATER SYSTEM.
AND COUNCILMAN, YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT.
THEY HAVE DRAWINGS, BUT PART OF WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO WAS TO GO OUT AND VERIFY.
THERE ARE TIMES, UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU'RE MAKING REPAIRS OR REPLACING INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE IT MAY, IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE RECORDED OR UPDATED ON THE DRAWINGS.
SO THE DRAWINGS THAT YOU HAVE DON'T NECESSARILY REFLECT WHAT'S IN THE GROUND.
SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT DAVE'S SAYING.
WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO VERIFY THAT WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT'S SHOWN, WHETHER IT'S THE TOWN OR IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF YONKERS STUFF, THAT WHAT IS THERE IS CONSISTENT.
AND IF NOT, THEN THAT'S AN ADDED BENEFIT THAT YOU HAVE THAT WE CORRECT IT, WE MARK IT UP AND NOW YOU'RE DRAWINGS HOOK TAPE, BUT ALSO THE TIMELINE IS GONNA DEPEND ON YOU GETTING THAT DATA TIMELY.
WE FACTOR, WE, WE DID FACTOR THAT INTO THIS SCHEDULE.
AND, AND ONE OTHER THING THAT WE DO IS WE, WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS, WHAT WE CALL VALIDATION OF THE MODEL, WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING TO TAKE TWO STORM EVENTS AND
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APPLY THAT RAINFALL FROM THOSE STORM EVENTS INTO THE MODEL AND LOOK AT THE RESULTS AND CONFIRM THAT THE RESULTS OF THE MODEL IS DEPICTING IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED IN REALITY TO THE EMPIRICAL DATA.SO WE, SO WE ARE ABLE TO VALIDATE THE EMPIRICAL DATA IN THE MODEL TO REAL TIME, REAL LIFE EVENTS.
SO WE HAVE A COMFORT THAT THE MODEL IS PREDICTING HOW THE WATERSHED REACTING TO VARIOUS STONES IN THE FUTURE.
WHAT IT MAKES MORE, MORE SENSE TO USE TWO REAL LIFE STORMS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN PREDICT A THIRD.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, TWO POINTS DOES NOT A TREND MAKE, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, THERE, THERE IS CERTAINLY TECHNOLOGIES OUT THERE THAT CAN, THAT ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT.
UM, OUR MODEL'S BUILT ON A PLATFORM THAT ALLOWS YOU TO PUT DIFFERENT RAINFALL PATTERNS IN VARIOUS DISTRIBUTIONS RIGHT.
SO YOU CAN DO THOSE SCENARIO PLANNING RIGHT.
UM, AND ULTIMATELY BRING IN MORE DATA.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE CALIBRATION IS MAKING SURE YOU HAVE HIGH WATER MONSTER IN SOME OF THESE MORE SIGNIFICANT EVENTS.
FORTUNATELY YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME VERY GOOD DATA RELATIVE TO IDA AND, UM, ONRI THAT, THAT WE CAN USE.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE METEOROLOGICAL DATA FOR PAST EVENTS, MORE HISTORIC EVENTS AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PULL FROM THERE AS WELL.
OKAY, NEXT, UH, YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION FROM BRUCE KAMAN.
WE DO, UM, BRIAN AND RICH, ARE YOU, ARE, ARE ONE OF YOU GOING STAY FOR A FEW MINUTES? YEAH, I'LL BE RIGHT BACK IN.
CHRIS, DO YOU WANNA COME UP TO THE TABLE? SURE.
HI BRUCE, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN.
SO THANK THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR BEING HERE.
UM, WE JUST GONNA INTRODUCE YOU TO THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT.
UM, THE CLOSEST TO YOU IS COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEN.
AND, UH, TO, TO MY RIGHT IS COUNCILWOMAN DIANA NER TO MY LEFT TOWN SUPERVISOR, PAUL FINER.
AND, UM, THE LADY WHO WALKED AWAY AND WHO WILL BE COMING BACK IS COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON.
SO WE, WE HAVE ONE COUNCILMAN ABSENT TODAY, UH, KEN JONES.
AND, UM, JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR, FOR BEING HERE TO TALK ABOUT LASER FISH, A PROGRAM, SOFTWARE PROGRAM OF GENERAL CODE, WHICH IS AN INTEGRAL COMPONENT OF, UH, HOW THE TOWN CONDUCTS BUSINESS.
UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE WITH US TRISTAN SORES WHO DEEPAK PANIA, THE DIRECTOR OF THE MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS DEPARTMENT, ASKED TRISTAN, TRISTAN, YOUR DEPUTY, RIGHT? YES.
TO BE PRESENT TO, UM, UH, CONFIRM DEEPAK'S SUPPORT OF THE PROGRAM AND WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING TO BRING TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, UH, EVERYONE FOR HAVING US.
I, I, UH, WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE VISIONARIES.
UM, YOU WERE, UM, VERY EARLY ADAPTERS TO THIS TECHNOLOGY.
WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN USING LASER TEACH SNOW SINCE 2003.
AND, UM, SO YOU WERE AHEAD OF THE CURVE AT THAT POINT.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU BENEFITED FROM YOUR INVESTMENT LONG TERM AGO.
I, I KNOW THAT THE SOFTWARE NOW, UM, IS NOT USED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE TOWN, UH, BUT I KNOW THAT IT CAN BE.
UM, AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH, UM, UH, JUDITH AND, AND SEVERAL DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, DURING A COUPLE OF SOFTWARE DEMONSTRATIONS IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING TO PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, KIND, KIND OF LIKE YOU WOULD DO WITH THE ZONING, UH, MASTER PLAN, UM, ROLLING OUT LASER FEES, UM, TO MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, BUT DOING IT IN A PHASED APPROACH AND DOING IT ONLY AFTER WE HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THOSE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT HEADS ABOUT THEIR GOALS, THEIR REQUIREMENTS, UM, WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SOFTWARE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING.
UM, WE WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR BUSINESS PROCESSES ARE, UM, WHAT KIND OF FORMS WORK TO, UM, POTENTIALLY CREATE MORE EFFICIENCIES AND MAKE THEM MORE EFFECTIVE.
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WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT OFFICES IN TERMS OF, UM, MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NEW YORK STATE MANDATED RECOMME MANAGEMENT SCHEDULE.UM, AND IN ESSENCE ALSO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, ADD SOFTWARE TO YOUR, UM, TALENT'S, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL ENABLE YOU TO MORE, UM, HELP, UH, BE MORE HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF ACCESSING INFORMATION.
UH, AS WE ALL LEARNED DURING THE PANDEMIC, UH, ACCESS TO DOCUMENTS, UH, WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
IN MANY MUNICIPALITIES, THAT ABILITY IS NOT THERE.
UM, AND SO PART OF THIS PROCESS WILL BE TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC IN AN EFFECTIVE WAY, WHICH WILL REDUCE FOOT TRAFFIC IN TOWN HALL, BUT IMPROVE CUSTOMER SERVICE BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GET INFORMATION, UH, VERY QUICKLY.
SO DURING OUR CONVERSATION, WE IDENTIFIED CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE, UH, ENERGIZED, UH, INITIALLY BY THIS PROJECT, BY THIS, UM, DETAILED ANALYSIS, UH, THESE FIVE DEPARTMENTS.
UM, AND SO WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THAT WOULD BE THE SPRINGBOARD TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, GAINING AN INTEREST IN LOOKING AT HOW THEY CAN WORK EFFECTIVELY DO THEIR WORK, UH, ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS AS WELL.
BRUCE, MAY I JUST, BRUCE, MAY I JUST INTERJECT, MAY I JUST INTERJECT THIS POINT, UM, QUICKLY.
I JUST WANT TO, UM, REMIND, UH, THE BOARD THAT IN 2003, LASERFICHE WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT, INTRODUCED TO THE TOWN THROUGH MY PREDECESSOR, UM, UH, COUNTY LEGISLATOR ALFRED, UH, ALFREDO WILLIAMS. AND AT THAT TIME, THE SOPHOMORE WAS USED TO SCAN, UM, UH, VITAL RECORDS INTO, UM, UH, IN, INTO A COM COMPUTERIZED FORMAT.
NOW SINCE THEN, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, WE, WE NEED AN UPGRADE, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE SOFTWARE.
UH, ALSO, UH, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS USING THE SOFTWARE.
UM, RICH FAWN USED IT IN A, IN A PRIOR, UH, MUNICIPALITY AND, UM, REALLY, UH, GAVE IT, UM, UH, FIVE STARS AND, UM, OUR, UH, COMMISSIONER DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND CONSERVATION, GARRETT DUANE HAS ALSO INDICATED THAT HE WOULD LIKE LASER FISH IN HIS DEPARTMENT.
SO THOSE FIVE DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING TO FIRST BOOST LASER FISH IS IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND EXPAND ITS USE INTO DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, CONSERVATION AND, UH, BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
AND, UM, WHAT WAS THE FIFTH ONE? I DON'T KNOW.
ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND ENGINEERING.
BUT I, I ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO IT AND I USE IT FOR, YOU KNOW, DOING, UH, RESEARCH.
I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS THIS REPLACING ANY, UH, OTHER SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE USING? OR IS THIS AN ADDITION? NO, IT'S NOT REPLACING, IT'S ENHANCING.
ENHANCING BASICALLY A MAJOR UPGRADE.
SO IT, AND SO IT INTERACTS WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE MM-HMM.
SO WE DON'T RUN INTO THAT PROBLEM 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD THAT PROBLEM IN THE PAST.
NO, THIS IS GONNA BE, THIS IS A GREAT PRODUCT AND THANK YOU JUTH FOR BRINGING THIS INTO THE, UH, UH, TO THE TOWN BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT.
I MEAN, THE ENGINEER DEPARTMENT IS ASKING ME, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALL THESE RECORDS AND THEY WANT TO PUT 'EM ON LAY FISH, SO IT'S LIKE EVERY DEPARTMENT IS ASKING FOR IT, SO IT'S NOT, IT'S SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO DO.
SO WE WILL CURRENT, SO WE WILL CURRENTLY TAKE ALL OF THE HARD, HARD COPY RECORDS AND THEN LOAD AND THEN UPLOAD 'EM TO THIS, THIS, THAT'S SOFTWARE.
YOU TAKE, YOU HAVE 'EM SCANNED IN AND THEY GO ONTO THE LASER FISH AND THEN YOU ACCESS 'EM THAT WAY.
MAYBE MR. CADMAN COULD EXPLAIN THE PROCESS TO IT.
YEAH, SO, AND, AND I PLUG, UH, THEIR APPROACH YOU'RE TAKING, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IS MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A CROSSOVER IN TERMS OF, UM, WORKFLOW.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO FIND OUT WHERE THE DOCUMENTS ARE, WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTS ARE THEY SHARING DOCUMENTS.
WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE SOFTWARE THAT'S BEING USED POTENTIALLY WITH
NOW YOU'RE ABLE TO BUILD INTEGRATIONS WITH OTHER BEST OF BREED SOFTWARE.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE USING A BUILDING SOFTWARE PACKAGE AND YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT DATA IN THE
SAME WITH OTHER BEST OF BREED SOFTWARE.
UM, SO OUR REPORT IS GOING TO IDENTIFY FOR YOU, UH, NOT ONLY
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THE SOFTWARE THAT WE FEEL WOULD BE VALUABLE TO YOU, BUT ALSO THE DOCUMENTS THAT COULD BE SCANNED AND MOVED INTO A LASER PIECE REPOSITORY.UM, AND IN THE FUTURE, AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO INCLUDE, UH, YOU GUYS THEMSELVES.
BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS DOING NOW AS YOU'RE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE NOW, UM, IN, IN A COUPLE OTHER OFFICES.
SO YOU'LL HAVE A PLAN TO WORK WITH.
IT'S KIND OF A BLUEPRINT, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WILL, UH, BE DEVELOPED AS PART OF THIS PRODUCTION PROCESS.
UM, SO WE, WE, WE, WE, UM, ARE CONFIDENT THAT THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE GOING FORWARD WILL BE BASED ON THIS PLAN, UM, AND BUY IN FROM EVERYBODY, UH, WHO'S INVOLVED.
SO HOW LONG TENDS TO WORK, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO, TO, UH, TRANSFER THE DOCUMENTS WE HAVE ONTO THE, ONTO THE LASER FE? YEAH.
THE, UM, WITH ALL OF THE DATA THAT'S IN YOUR CURRENT LASER FEE REPOSITORY WOULD BE MIGRATED AS PART OF THE PROCESS.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD END ON.
UM, WHAT WOULD TAKE MORE TIME WOULD BE, UH, ONCE YOU MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT NEW RECORDS YOU'RE GONNA SCAN, UM, THE, THE TIMEFRAME THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO PUT THOSE RECORDS INTO THE SYSTEM.
FORTUNATELY, IN SOME OF THE OFFICE, ESPECIALLY WITH
SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE A LOT OF DOCUMENTS ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM, BUT THE OTHER OFFICES MAY NEED TO LOOK AT A SCANNING PROJECT AS PART OF THIS AS WELL.
UM, AND WE WORK CLOSELY WITH YOUR SCANNING PARTNERS.
YOU USE A COMPANY, UH, CALLED VENDOR.
UH, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM ON MANY PROJECTS, INCLUDING SEVERAL CHESTER COUNTY NOW, UM, ON, ON SIMILAR PATHS.
AND SO, UH, WE, WE, WE TEAM UP, UH, THEY DO THE SCANNING AND PROCESSING AND KEYING, AND THEN WE DO A PROCESSING AND UPLOADING OF THOSE DOCUMENTS UNTIL, SO, SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING AND THIS WOULD JUST BE AT A MUCH LARGER SCALE, DECIDE THIS.
SO LET ME, I JUST, I JUST, SO YOU SAID, GOING FORWARD, SO IF LIKE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR ENGINEERING AND THEY GET PLANS IN, ARE THEY GONNA, IS THERE AN OPTION WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO UPLOAD THE DOCUMENTS AND THEN IT'LL GO AND IT'LL FALL INTO LASER FISH? EXACTLY, YES.
AND THAT'S HAPPENING A LOT IN GOVERNMENT.
WE ALSO DO YOUR TOWN CODE BOOK AND MANY MUNICIPALITIES, UM, YEAH.
UM, ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE LEGISLATION, THEIR LAWS, LOCAL LAWS THAT, UH, DEVELOPERS, BUILDERS, ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS ACTUALLY DO PROVIDE YOU WITH ELECTRONIC VERSIONS OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY INCLUDING THAT.
AND THOSE CAN BE DRAGGED AND DROPPED OR, UM, PRINTED RIGHT INTO RELATIONSHIP REPOSITORY.
SO THIS, DOES IT INTERFACE WITH QUESTION? GOOD QUESTION.
DOES IT INTERFACE WITH G I S? UM, IT, IT DOES TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
UM, IT INTERFACES WITH YOUR BUILDING SYSTEM.
YOU USE A BUILDING SYSTEM CALLED ITY, I BELIEVE.
UM, IS THAT TRUE? THAT IS CORRECT.
YEAH, SO WE HAVE A, A SEAMLESS INTEGRATION WITH THE, WITH THE ITY SOFTWARE, WHICH IS A GIS BASED, UM, CLOUD BASED KNOW SYSTEM.
SO WHEN YOU'RE, I'M SORRY, WHICH WE'RE ALSO UPGRADING AND ENGINEERING AND STUFF LIKE THAT WITH, WITH THIS COMING YEAR.
RIGHT? SO THEY'LL ALL BE INTEGRATED TOGETHER WITH ENGINEERING.
D D W, RIGHT? SO THE DOCUMENTS WILL FIT.
SO AS FAR AS STORAGE, DO WE PROVIDE THE STORAGE OR DO YOU PROVIDE THE STORAGE? AND IF YOU PROVIDE THE STORAGE, WHO OWNS THE DATA?
WELL, YOU'LL ALWAYS OWN THE DATA.
THE DECISION ON WHETHER YOU GO WITH THE CLOUD SOLUTION OR STAY WITH AN ONPREM BE YOURS.
AND PART OF THAT'LL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
WE WOULD GO WITH THE, THE CLOUD.
YOU STILL OWN IT? WE STILL OWN THE CLOUD.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S, I GET NERVOUS 'CAUSE THIS HAPPENED ON THE JOB, BUT SO FOR THE CLOUD, IT'S FOREVER.
WELL, I'VE HAD SOME, AND WE HAVE AN ISSUE.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, I SAID THAT LIGHT.
BE CAREFUL OF THE TERM, THE TERM, BUT YEAH, BASICALLY THAT'S ALLOWED.
SO IT'S WITH APPROPRIATE BACKUPS.
AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA CREATE BACKUP FORTH.
SO, SO BRUCE, UM, COULD YOU PLEASE, UH, ALSO SHARE THE, UH, THE COMPONENTS TO THIS, THIS PROCESS? UM, ONE, UH, REALLY POSITIVE ADVANTAGE TO THIS IS THAT, UM, BECAUSE, UH, THE, THE
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SCANNING AND STORING OF RECORDS WILL HELP REDUCE FOOT TRAFFIC INTO TOWN HALL DURING THIS PANDEMIC THAT WE'RE LIVING WITH.AND WE DON'T KNOW FOR HOW LONG COVID RELIEF FUNDS COULD SUPPORT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROJECT.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO SHARE WITH EVERYONE WHAT THE, THE PROCESS, THE PHASES OF THE PROCESS WOULD BE, STARTING OUT WITH THE ANALYSIS, THE ASSESSMENT, ET CETERA.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO BELIEVE THE, THE, UM, FUNDING, UH, LENDS ITSELF TO, UM, POTENTIAL TO USE THAT WITH THOSE MONIES FOR THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ENABLE YOU TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, UM, TO THE PUBLIC, UH, IN A REVO FASHION AS WELL TO EMPLOYEES.
IT DOES ALLOW YOU TO WORK REMOTELY.
UM, IT ALLOWS YOUR CITIZENS TO GATHER INFORMATION FROM YOU AND AS YOU
SO FOR THOSE REASONS, THE PROCESS ITSELF, UM, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE YOU'RE APPROACHING IT FROM A VERY STRUCTURED FORMAT.
SO WE ARE GONNA INTERVIEW THOSE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT HEADS.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE, UH, PREPARE, UM, ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS, MEET WITH EVERYBODY, GET EVERYONE'S INPUT AS TO WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WORKING, HOW YOU WORK, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT PAPERS INVOLVED, WHAT DOCUMENT EXISTED IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
AND THE REPORT WILL BE VERY DETAILED IN TERMS OF WHAT WE FOUND, WHAT DIRECTION WE THINK YOU, WE, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER GOING IN, WHAT INTEGRATIONS YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IN TERMS OF BUILDING BRIDGES BETWEEN BEST OF BREED SOFTWARE, UM, IF, UH, IF OF INTEREST, UH, WHAT RECORDS NEED TO BE SCANNED, SHOULD BE SCANNED, WHAT INDEXING CRITERIA YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER.
UH, IN MANY MUNICIPALITIES, UM, INCLUDING GREENBERG, UH, WE HAVE, UM, ENGINEERING, P P W, UM, BUILDING PLANNING, UH, CONSERVATION, UH, YOUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
A LOT OF THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE USED BY THE SAME PEOPLE.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ABILITY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
BUT THAT REPORT WILL IDENTIFY, UH, DO THIS FOR YOU.
WHAT WE BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE THE NEXT STEPS IN THAT PROCESS.
IT'LL GIVE YOU OUR ASSESSMENT.
IT WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH THE SOFTWARE THAT, UH, A LIST OF THE SOFTWARE THAT WE THINK YOU NEED, UH, TO DO, UH, IS TO IMPLEMENT, UH, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
UM, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE FORMS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO START PUTTING SOME FORMS, UH, ONLINE AND MAKE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
SO IT'S A VERY DETAILED, COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT WHAT YOUR EXISTING BUSINESS, UH, PROCESSES ARE.
BUT ALSO, UM, BY MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE'RE GONNA LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE.
UM, SO THAT'LL BE INCORPORATED IN AS WELL.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE WORK WITH HUNDREDS OF MUNICIPALITIES, SO WE'LL BE PROVIDING YOU WITH OUR EXPERIENCE IN, IN THOSE, UH, AREAS TOO.
AND THEN IT'LL BE A DECISION ON THE ACCOUNT PART, WHETHER OR NOT TO BRING IN THE SCANNING COMPANY, AS I MENTIONED, WHO HAS DONE WORK WITH YOU BEFORE OF WHAT DEPARTMENT'S RECORDS DO YOU WANT TO START TO SCAN.
AND THE SCAN PROJECTS TYPICALLY ARE DONE CASES.
UM, SO WE WILL WORK WITH YOU TO IDENTIFY WHICH DEPARTMENTS WE FEEL MIGHT BE BEST SUITED TO, TO MOVE AHEAD FIRST.
AND THOSE TYPICALLY ARE, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENTS YOU'RE SPEAKING ON ARE VERY ACTIVE USERS OF THE SOFTWARE.
UM, LATER ON YOU CAN LOOK AT OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL ALSO BENEFIT FROM, FROM THIS.
HEY BRUCE, JUST CAN I JUST ASK, GO AHEAD.
JUST REALLY QUICKLY, SO YOU MENTIONED FORMS THAT WE COULD PUT UPLOAD FORMS TO THE WEBSITE.
SO ARE THOSE GONNA BE FILLABLE FORMS THAT IF THERE'S APPLICATIONS THAT, UM, A RESIDENT NEEDS TO COMPLETE FOR PERMIT FOR WHATEVER, THEY CAN COMPLETE THAT INFORMATION AND UPLOAD THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO FORWARD THE APPLICATION ON? YEAH, GOOD QUESTION.
SO IT'S, UM, IT'S A FILLABLE FORM.
IT ACTUALLY, WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS, WE BUILD WITH YOU, UM, OR WE CAN BUILD THEM FOR YOU.
UH, WE CAN TEACH YOU HOW TO DO IT, BUT IT'LL ACTUALLY KICK OFF A WORKFLOW.
SO IF YOU, IF SOMEBODY FILLS OUT A FORM, A FILE REQUEST, AND THEY WANT A CERTAIN DOCUMENT, IT'LL BE ROUTED AND WE'LL BUILD OUT THAT
SO IT IS, IT'S A COMPLETELY WORKFLOW, UM, SITUATION.
SO THAT IN ESSENCE, YOU, YOU CAN DO THESE THINGS WITHOUT EVER CREATING PAPER.
THAT THAT'S PART OF THE GOAL OF THIS, IS TO TRY TO STOP CREATING AS MUCH PAPER AS YOU HAVE IN THE PAST.
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YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE FORMS THERE THAT ARE BEING USED BOTH INTERNALLY AND OUR MIND, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE, CREATE ALL THOSE LASER FISH AND CREATE THEM MORE SO THAT THEY'RE FILLABLE AND THEY FOLLOW CERTAIN WORKFLOW PROCESSES.ARE THERE MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK THAT
WE'RE DOING A VERY SIMILAR PROJECT NOW WITH, UM, THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING STAR SALE.
UH, THEY TWO HAVE BEEN USING THE SOFTWARE FOR MANY YEARS.
UM, I, I HAD, I HAD A, A FOLLOW UP UP QUESTION.
WE HAVE SIX VILLAGES, YOU KNOW, IN THE TOWN.
IF, UH, OTHER VILLAGES, UM, WOULD SAY, WANT TO SIGN ON, UH, WOULD WE GET LIKE A BETTER RATE IF, YOU KNOW, UM, IF WE GET, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BUNCH OF, LIKE SIX VILLAGES, VILLAGES, UH, TO SIGN ON AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE A COMMISSION FOR THE TOWN? WELL, EACH OF THE PROJECTS WOULD BE SEPARATE.
SO I, I REALLY COULDN'T ANSWER THAT.
UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE VILLAGES IN, IN, UH, WESTCHESTER ALSO USE THAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT VILLAGES YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, BUT, UM, MANY OF 'EM DO.
WE CERTAINLY WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM.
UM, TYPICALLY THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PROCESSES.
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS THAT NEED TO GO INTO THE SYSTEM.
UM, AND, UH, THE WAY THE LIGHTS, THE WAY THE SOFTWARE'S PRICE IS, IS TYPICALLY BY THE, THE FUNCTION VALUE, THE FEATURE SET THAT ARE NEEDED.
NOT EVERYBODY WILL NEED EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS.
SO I'M GLAD, I'M GLAD WE GOT TO THE ULTIMATE QUESTION, OF COURSE, IS COST.
NOW OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO MEET WITH DEPARTMENT, UH, HEADS AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS.
UH, BUT WHAT IS YOUR, YOUR PRICE STRUCTURE BASED ON? IS IT BASED ON NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS SCANNED? IS IT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF USERS THAT HAVE THE LICENSES? COULD YOU GIVE US SOME IDEA OR BALLPARK, FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR RECENT ONE THAT YOU JUST COMPLETED, UH, OF WHAT RANGE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, THIS, THIS YOUR PROJECT.
UM, SO THIS INITIAL, THIS DESIRE PHASE PLANNING PHASE IS PRICED AT $6,500 FOR THAT WORK, FOR THAT, THAT ONSITE MEETINGS WITH THE DEPARTMENT ADS TO REVIEW, UM, FROM THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE COST TO IMPLEMENT AND, AND THE CHANGES.
I, I REALLY, I WOULD, I, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT WOULD COST, UM, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GONNA DEPEND ON WHAT WORK, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED.
AND WE, WE'VE DONE PROJECTS FOR, YOU KNOW, 30,000, 40, 50, A HUNDRED.
SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT WE UP.
WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU, THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU NOW IS MOVE ON WITH THIS ANALYSIS, UH, STAGE.
UM, THE BACK FILE SCANNING PIECE IS REALLY MUCH MORE, UH, IN TERMS OF COST.
THAT WILL BE THE MORE EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION THAN THE ACTUAL SOFTWARE SOFTWARE, THE SOFTWARE TRAINING.
UM, AND THAT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE NUMBER OF RECORDS, UH, THE CONDITION OF THE RECORDS.
AND, UH, AGAIN, WE WOULD SURVEY THOSE RECORDS ON, THERE WOULD BE NO OBLIGATION FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN IF YOU WERE TO SIGN THIS AGREEMENT, 6,500
BUT THE BACKFILE SCANNING, UM, COULD, COULD BE DONE WITH A COMBINATION OF, UH, OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS AND INSIDE STAFF, CORRECT? I MEAN, YEAH, YOU DO EXPERIENCE, TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS IT'S REALLY HARD.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY, THERE'S GOT ENOUGH TO DO EVERY DAY.
IT'S NOT EASY FOR EVERYBODY TO GET TO DO THEIR OWN SCANNING.
UM, AND AS I SAID, THE TAG HAS BEEN USING OUR, OUR FIGHTERS AND US FOR A LONG TIME SCANNING DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, UH, GROUPS OF FERENCE.
UM, BUT YES, THE SOFTWARE, DO THE SCAN EVERYTHING YOURSELF, UM, WITH, UH, YOUR MULTIFUNCTION DEVICES OR WITH DESKTOP SCANNERS.
UM, SO YES, YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO IT INHOUSE.
AND AGAIN, I THINK THE BIG THING IS TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING DOCUMENTS ELECTRONICALLY FROM ALL OF YOUR VENDORS, FROM ALL OF THE PEOPLE YOU WORK WITH, UM, AND, AND TRY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PAPER THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING.
AND THE MORE YOU CAN LOOK AT DOING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UM, IT'S EASIER THEN TO PUT THE INFORMATION INTO THE LASER VIEW SYSTEM, WHICH IS THEN GONNA BE SHARED WITH OTHERS.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY VERSIONS HAVE THERE BEEN SINCE THE VERSION THAT WE'RE USING NOW, WHICH IS STATIC? AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FILLABLE LASER FEE FILE THAT WE HAVE.
IT'S, IT'S SIMPLY, WELL, YOU HAVE LIKE A COPY, YOU HAVE ONE OF THE FIRST, UH, ITERATIONS
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OF THE SOFTWARE, BUT IT'S UP TO A, I THINK THE LASERUM, LASER PIECE ITSELF HAS BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
IT'S INSTALLED IN 36,000 ORGANIZATIONS.
UH, IT'S WRITTEN IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES AND IT'S IN MANY DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
UM, SO IT, IT, IT, AND IT'S IN MANY DIFFERENT VERTICALS AS WELL.
SO IT IS CONSTANTLY BEING REVISED AND UPDATED, PAID AND TWEAK.
UM, AND WE FULLY SUPPORT, UM, THAT SOLUTION FROM OUR, UH, SUPPORT TEAM, DEDICATED SUPPORT TEAM TO WORK WITH THE TOWN TO ENSURE THAT PROGRAM IS RUNNING SMOOTHLY.
BUT IT'S, IT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.
UH, WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH IT IN MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE VERY SMALL AND, AND, AND ACTUALLY YONKERS HAS IT AS WELL.
WE'RE USING IT MOSTLY IN THE FINANCE AREA.
UM, A VERY LARGE INSTALLATION THERE.
SO IT, IT, IT MEETS YOUR NEEDS.
THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, UH, BEFORE INVESTING IN ANY OF THE SOFTWARE, UH, FEATURES AND FUNCTIONALITY.
JUST ONE LAST QUESTION THAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GENERAL CODE AND LASERFICHE, DID GENERAL CODE BUY OUT LASERFICHE, OR IS LASER FEE A STANDALONE THAT YOU JUST HAPPEN TO USE? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION THOUGH.
LASERFICHE IS, UM, THE DEVELOPER OF THE SOFTWARE, THEY SELL THEIR PRODUCTS FOR THE NETWORK OF VALUE ADDED RESELLERS, OF WHICH WE ARE ONE.
THEY'RE ONE OF THE TOP, UH, IN THE COUNTRY, IN THE GOVERNMENT SPHERE.
UM, BUT IT IS, UH, NOT OUR PRODUCT.
WE ARE A RESELLER OF THAT PRODUCT.
UM, AND UM, AS I SAID, THE NUMBER ONE RESELLER IN NORTHEAST IS CERTAINLY IN NEW YORK.
BUT YES, THE, THE RELATIONSHIP IS, THEY ARE THE DEVELOPER.
WE, WE MARKET THE SOFTWARE, WE SUPPORT IT, WE INSTALL, WE TRAIN PEOPLE.
UM, WE HOST OUR OWN WORKSHOPS.
UM, SO, UM, WE, WHEN WE DECIDED TO LOOK FOR THIS KIND OF SOFTWARE, I KNOW YOU KNOW ABOUT OUR CODE PROGRAM THAT I'VE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY FOR YEARS.
SO WE STARTED WITH WHAT WAS, UH, A CODE BOOK AND NO ELECTRONIC VERSION.
THEN WE WENT TO PC CODE BOOK, THEN WE WENT TO E CODE.
UM, AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE OUR CUSTOMERS WITH THE BEST TECHNOLOGY AND THE RIGHT TECHNICAL SUPPORT.
AND JUST THREE YEARS AGO, WE WERE ACTUALLY PURCHASED BY, UM, WE'RE ALWAYS OWNED BY INDIVIDUAL UNTIL THREE YEARS AGO.
WE NOW ARE OWNED BY, WE ARE A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL.
AND, UM, THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL DEVELOP THE BUILDING PLUMBING SAFETY ELECTRICAL CODE OR COMMUNITIES, UH, AROUND THE COUNTRY AND, UM, ALSO AROUND THE WORLD.
SO THERE'S BEEN A, A LARGE INVESTMENT IN OUR, UM, TECHNOLOGY TEAM.
UM, SO WE'VE BENEFITED TREMENDOUSLY FROM OUR OWNERSHIP AS WELL.
GENERAL CODE IS A QUALITY PRODUCT.
UH, I'VE BEEN USING IT FOR DECADES AND, UH, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION BY CHANCE ON TOMORROW NIGHT'S AGENDA REGARDING THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL.
SO YOU SHOULD FEEL AT HOME HERE.
WHAT'S THE LIFE BOOK? I STARTED IN, UH, 1981 AND I'VE BEEN WITH GENERAL FOR A LONG TIME.
AND, UH, I, I, I LOVE MY WORK.
I LOVE MY CUSTOMERS, AND, UH, I ALWAYS SAY MY CUSTOMERS ARE MY BEST REFERENCES.
AND, UH, CERTAINLY YOU HAVE BEEN ONE OF THOSE FOR MANY YEARS, AS MANY OTHERS, UH, WESTCHESTER HAVE BEEN.
WELL, ALRIGHT, THE SUPERVISOR, WHAT'S THE LIFE OF, UH, UH, THIS, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE SCAN, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG WILL WILL IT LAST? LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING LIKE WHEN YOU DO VIDEO, YOU KNOW, THE OLD VIDEOS, UH, YOU KNOW, AFTER 15, 20 YEARS, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINED.
AND I'M WONDERING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS FROM NOW OR 30 YEARS FROM NOW, WILL, YOU KNOW, WILL THE TOWN HAVE TO REDO IT? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
THIS, THE IMAGES THAT GO INTO LASER FEATURE SCAN IS, THEY CAN BE, THEY, ANY RECORD CAN BE PUT INTO LASER FEATURE STORE OR
UH, CAD DRAWING, ANYTHING CAN BE STORED IN LASER FEATURE.
BUT TYPICALLY, UM, ARCHIVE DOC IS STORED IMAGES.
UM, SO YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT.
THEFT IMAGES ARE, ARE A NEW YORK STATE, UH, ARCHIVE STANDARD.
AND THE REASON THAT THEY ARE IS THAT, UH, IT, SOME, OUR P A IS KNOWN, UM, BUT
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UH, WE ALL HAVE FINAL RECORDS AND THEN EIGHT TRACK AND THEN MP THREE, AND UH, AND THEN YOU JUST PUSH A BUTTON, IT'S THERE.
SO YOU'RE ABLE TO MIGRATE THE, THE CHIP IMAGES TO IT, WHATEVER THE NEW PLATFORM MIGHT BE.
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YOU MENTIONED A TRACK, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I, OR RN DRIVES OR JAZZ DRIVES.THE IMPORTANT THING IS, LIKE FRANCIS SAID, WE OWN THE DATA, WE OWN THE DATA GOING TO THE FUTURE, WHATEVER THEY COME OUT WITH, WE CAN ALWAYS MIGRATE.
NO, BUT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE IF THEY THEN TOOK OUR, OUR TIFF OR JPEG IMAGES AND CONVERTED IT TO A PROPRIETARY IMAGE FORMAT, WE, WE SUNK.
YEAH, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY LEAVING IN ITS NATIVE FORMAT.
WHICH IS I'M CORRECT, RICK, CORRECT, YES.
THAT'S, SO IS THAT CORRECT? YOU'RE KEEPING IT IN ITS NATIVE FORMAT, BUT YOU CAN STORE THINGS IN THEIR NATIVE FORMAT.
YOU CAN KEEP, UH, WELL, YOU CAN SOIL 'EM AS STUFF AND WHEN YOU EXPORT THEM, YOU CAN EXPORT THEM IN MANY DIFFERENT OTHER FORMATS.
SO, UM, YOU, YOU MAKE THAT DECISION FROM A RECORDS MANAGEMENT, UH, PERSPECTIVE, YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO SOIL THEM IN CHIP, BECAUSE THAT IS IN NEW YORK STATE ARCHIVES, UH, RECOMMENDED COURTS OR P D A.
DO SILVA THAT I'M CLEAR, REGARDLESS OF THE STORAGE, YOUR COMPANY DOES NOT TAKE THE IMAGE AND CONVERT IT TO A PROPRIETARY IMAGE FORMAT.
CORRECT? IT STAYS, IT STAYS IN PREFERABLY, I GUESS, TIFF SINCE THAT'S THE NEW YORK STATE STANDARD.
AND THAT COULD BE USED ANYWHERE.
SO BRUCE, WE'LL BE FOLLOWING UP TOMORROW WITH, UM, THANK VERY MUCH PLANNING NEXT STEPS.
I'M SORRY I, UH, DIDN'T GET DIRECTOR, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP AGAIN, UH, WORKED OUT WELL.
SO, UH, NEXT, UH, ON, UM, UH, OCTOBER 27TH, THE TOWN BOARD WILL HAVE, UM, A DISCUSSION ON THE MARIJUANA LEGISLATION.
AND TIM, UH, YOU AND GARRETT WILL PREPARE LIKE OPTIONS.
SO, AGAIN, BRIEFLY, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS REALLY ON DISPENSARIES AND WHETHER THE TOWN BOARD WANTS TO HAVE DISPENSARIES IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE TOWN, OR LOUNGES, KIND OF LIKE A CIGAR BAR WHERE PEOPLE CAN CONGREGATE AND SMOKE OPENLY MARIJUANA.
BUT MARIJUANA IS LEGAL AND RIGHT NOW YOU CAN SMOKE ON THE STREETS.
SO WE'RE NOT PROHIBITING THAT AND WE'RE TRYING TO ELICIT DIALOGUE FROM PEOPLE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT DISPENSARIES AND, UM, LOUNGES.
SO, SO BASICALLY, UH, UH, THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
WE COULD OPT OUT, WE COULD, UM, DO NOTHING OR WE COULD REGULATE, RIGHT? YOU CAN ALWAYS OPT OUT AND SUBSEQUENTLY OPT IN IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FEELING OF THE BOARD.
BUT WE'RE JUST REALLY TRYING TO GET COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE ISSUES.
BUT WOULD YOU GIVE US LIKE SORT OF THE, LIKE THE ZONE, LET'S SAY WE DECIDE WE WANT TO REGULATE MM-HMM.
I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE A LIQUOR STORE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IF IT'S LOCATED GENERALLY EVERYWHERE, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY PAY THAT MUCH ATTENTION TO IT.
AND ONLY PEOPLE WHO DRINK LIQUOR OR GOING TO, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON IT.
OTHER PEOPLE FEEL IT SHOULD BE AWAY FROM SCHOOLS OR CHILDREN OR WHATEVER, OR CHURCHES.
AND IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON THE OPTION THAT THE BOARD WANTS TO TAKE DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
NOW, GARRETT SAID HE WAS, WHEN I SPOKE TO HIM, UM, I THINK FRIDAY HE SAID THAT HE WAS GONNA COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS, UH, OPTIONS THAT WE COULD PRESENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE I'M THINKING, OH, HE'S WORKING WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M, I'M SORT OF THINKING THAT, UM, BEFORE WE HAVE THE HEARING, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OPTION ONE.
THESE ARE, THIS IS WHAT OPTION ONE WOULD DO.
THIS IS OPTION TWO, THIS IS OPTION THREE.
THEN WE'RE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN WRITING, THEN PEOPLE COULD REFLECT ON IT.
AND THEN WHEN THEY SHOW UP ON THE 27TH, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE SOMETHING, THEY'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
YEAH, WE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT.
AND AGAIN, THIS, THERE'S A LOT THAT'S REALLY, UM, UNDETERMINED YET IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, GROWING PLANTS IN YOUR YARD AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT NOBODY KNOWS YET.
'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THOSE RULES YET.
BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, AGAIN, HAVE A GENERAL DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WITH PEOPLE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR FEELINGS ARE.
SO THE BOARD HAS A SENSE OF WHAT THEIR FEELINGS.
ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THE DOCUMENT THAT'S IN PREPARATION IS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE CAN'T REGULATE BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK WE CAN DECIDE THERE'LL BE NO MARIJUANA IN GREENBURG.
AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT REALISTIC BECAUSE THE NEW YORK STATE HAS DETERMINED THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT.
RIGHT? SO THERE'S VERY LIMITED AMOUNTS OF REGULATION THAT WE COULD DO.
THEY'RE GIVING US THE CHOICE OF OPTING
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OUT OF THOSE VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF, OF, UM, AREAS.BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT UNLESS WE BAN SMOKING ON SIDEWALKS, REGULAR SMOKING ON SIDEWALKS, WE CAN'T BAN SOMEBODY WALKING DOWN A PUBLIC STREET AND SMOKING MARIJUANA.
UH, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, LAID OUT IN THE MEMO.
IF YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING AND YOU'RE OUT ON A BALCONY AND YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IS SMOKING MARIJUANA, TOWN CAN'T, CAN'T SAY NO.
AND NEW YORK STATE HAS TAKEN THAT AWAY FROM US BEING ABLE TO REGULATE THAT.
SO AS WE DRILL DOWN ON THE FEW AREAS WE CAN REGULATE, UH, I THINK IT'LL MAKE IT CLEAR AND WE'LL HAVE A MORE PRODUCTIVE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE SOME OF IT, IT'S REALLY, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE TOWN BOARD.
IT'S, UH, THE STATE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED MM-HMM.
THAT WAY PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE LAW IS AND THAT IT'S NOT JUST COMING OUT OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S, UH, THOUGHTS OR WHATEVER.
THAT THERE IS A VERY STRUCTURED MANDATED LAW AROUND THIS.
THE LAW IS ACTUALLY IN THE MEMO.
THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A ONE PAGE MEMO.
WE'LL HIGHLIGHT, WE'LL HAVE HIGHLIGHT.
IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO THE PUBLIC TO SEE HIGHLIGHTED.
UM, NEXT, UH, WE'RE DOING THE AGENDA, AGENDA REVIEW.
UM, SO THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM MM-HMM.
UM, THE PROBLEM IS, IF WE ADJOURN IT WITHOUT A DATE, WHEN IT IS ON THE AGENDA, THE TOWN BEARS THE COST OF PUBLISHING THE NEW HEARING DATE.
SO THAT'S WHY, WHY, WHY DO WE BEAR THE COST? THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT.
THE APPLICANT DOESN'T PAY FOR THE HEARING NOTICE.
SO THERE'S AN EXPENSE THERE FOR US.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN KIND OF BEEN CARRYING IT, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE A DATE, WHEN WE DO GET A DATE, WE HAVE TO DO A NEW PUBLICATION IN THE NEWSPAPER.
SO IF SOMEBODY GOES TO THE ZONING BOARD, THE APPLICANT PAYS, IF THEY GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD, THE APPLICANT PAYS, BUT IF THEY COME TO THE TOWN BOARD, THE TOWN PAYS.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY, WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY TO RE-NOTICE IT.
I CHECKED THAT WITH, UH, JOAN TODAY.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GET ANOTHER DATE AND, YOU KNOW, INDICATING WHAT THAT DATE IS.
AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE.
SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO CHANGE IT OUT ON REGULATION.
UH, SHOULD WE BUMP IT TO NOVEMBER OR? NO, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT MESSES UP AGENDAS.
THEY'VE BEEN ON THE AGENDA NOW, WHAT, FOUR OR FIVE TIMES MM-HMM.
AND WE JUST KICK IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT READY.
HOW DID THEY GET ON THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? WELL, IT'S, IT'S OVER, IT'S CARRIED OVER FROM I UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND, BUT SOMEHOW THEY GOT ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT HAVING THE DOCUMENTS THAT OUR, OUR D P W SAYS IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO DO A SEW EXTENSION.
WELL, I THINK THE INITIAL TIME IT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT PUBLIC WORKS NOT SO WHAT SATISFIED MOVE IT FOR A MONTH OR SIX WEEKS OR WHAT? UM, I WOULD SAY LET'S DO IT, UM, JANUARY.
RIGHT?
WHAT? WHEN DO THEY, WHEN DO, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU FIND OUT BEFORE.
UH, WE'RE HAVE TO ADD, UH, FOR PRESENTATIONS.
JUDITH IS GONNA DO A PRESENTATION ON, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET AND REAL BRIEF.
BEFORE, UM, AT THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, AND, UM, GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING MOMENT OF SILENCE AT REQUESTING THAT WE ADD, UM, DENEEN GATEWOOD.
DENEEN GATEWOOD WAS A VERY ACTIVE, UM, POSITIVE, UH, UH, CIVIC ACTIVIST IN THE FAIRVIEW COMMUNITY.
SHE, UM, LAUNCHED THE, THE GARDEN AT THE TOP OF MANHATTAN AVENUE THAT D P W, UH, HAS ALSO BEEN HELPING TO MAINTAIN, AS WELL AS THE, UM, UH, BEAUTIFICATION OF THE AREA DOWN ON MANHATTAN AVENUE.
RIGHT BEFORE YOU GO UNDER THE BRIDGE.
AND I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD A, A STATEMENT IN MEMORY OF JANINE.
SHE WAS A OKAY, I'LL, I'LL WONDERFUL PERSON.
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KNOW.WHEN DID SHE DIE? PAUL? SHE PASSED ALMOST A YEAR AGO.
AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION JUST LAST WEEK WHEN HER HUSBAND CAME INTO THE OFFICE TO ASK FOR SOME, UM, DOCUMENTATION.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT.
UM, IT WAS RIGHT AROUND THE TIME THAT I LOST MY SISTER AND I, I JUST DID NOT, I I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT JANINE'S PASSING.
SO JUST A MOMENT OF, OF, UH, A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND RECOGNITION AND MM-HMM.
I KNOW WE ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON A HISPANIC HEART THIS MONTH.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW LONG THAT PRESENTATION? I, I TOLD, I TOLD THE GENTLEMAN 10 MINUTES.
FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, JONATHAN KAPA ZNO MENTIONED THAT, UH, HE ATTENDED THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING AS, AS REQUESTED AS PERSONNEL MATTER.
AND ALSO YOU HAVE ETHICS BOARD, UM, RIGHT.
CANDIDATES AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS, BUT I DO KNOW YOU HAVE A ETHICS BOARD MEETING, I BELIEVE, ON OCTOBER 28TH.
AND I KNOW THE CHAIR'S ANXIOUS TO SEE IF, UM, HE COULD GET, UH, SOME PEOPLE APPOINTED FOR THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT IN PASSING, RELATING TO, UH, TV, ONE THAT I HELD OVER THE WORKING DEFINITION OF ANTISEMITISM, UM, I'M MEETING WITH, UH, UM, THE WESTCHESTER JEWISH COUNCIL, THE HOLOCAUST COMMISSION.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN AS TO THE ORIGINAL WRITING.
AND, UH, SO THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH ME TO DISCUSS THE LANGUAGE OF THE RESOLUTION.
I FIGURED, ESPECIALLY THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE.
SO, UM, THE REASON IT'S AN, AN, AN ATTORNEY RESO IS THAT IT REALLY INVOLVES WORK THAT WAS DONE ON 16 HUNTER LANE.
YOU KNOW, YOU MAY REMEMBER A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF CHARLES TAYLOR WHO HAD A FLOODING ISSUE MM-HMM.
NOW IT, APPARENTLY THE REDESIGN WORK WAS NEVER PAID.
AND I THINK THE WORK MAY HAVE BEEN DONE.
IF YOU SPEAK TO ANDY VIVIANO, OF COURSE RICH FONG WAS NOT A PART OF THAT.
NEITHER CAN BRIAN VICTOR HAS AN EMAIL WHERE HE CORROBORATES IT TO SOME EXTENT, WHICH I'M GONNA SHARE WITH YOU MM-HMM.
AND I DIDN'T WANT IT UNDER PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO INVESTIGATE IT AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND THAT'S WHY I PUT IT UNDER EIGHT NINE.
I, THERE IS A, THERE WAS, THERE WERE TWO, UM, JOBS.
THE FIRST ONE IS A LETTER THAT AUTHORIZED IT.
I THINK THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED IT.
HE DOES NOT HAVE THE LETTER FOR THE SECOND, UM, THE, THE SECOND AMOUNT OF WORK THAT HE DID, YOU KNOW, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT.
UM, APPARENTLY HE DID DO THE WORK, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OFFICIAL AUTHORIZATION.
I CAN THINK OF THAT CORROBORATES THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORIZATION THAT WE, UM, HE HAS NOTHING EITHER TO PROVIDE, TO SAY HE DOES NOT.
SO A LOT OF IT WAS SPEAKING TO VICTOR SAYING, YOU KNOW, IS THIS LEGITIMATE? AND VICTOR SAYS, YES, ANDY VIVIANO, WHO'S UP IN D P W CORROBORATES THAT, BUT I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE TOWN BOARD THAT AUTHORIZES THAT WORK.
IS THIS THE HOUSE THAT WAS UNDERMINED BECAUSE OF FLOODING? UH, IT WAS UN RIGHT.
IT WAS UNDERMINED BECAUSE THERE'S A PIPE THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THIS GENTLEMAN'S PROPERTY AND NO ONE KNOWS HOW THAT PIPE GOT THERE.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN WOULD NORMALLY DO.
WE WOULDN'T PUT A TOWN PIPE UNDER SOMEONE'S PROPERTY WITHOUT AN EASEMENT.
AND SO THERE WAS A COURT CASE WHICH, UH, MR. TAYLOR ULTIMATELY LOST, BUT THE JUDGE SUGGESTED THAT WE TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT BEFORE HIS HOUSE COLLAPSED.
AND AS YOU MAY RECALL, HIS INSURANCE, WASN'T, IT SINKING, WASN'T HOUSE SINKING.
AT SOME POINT, HIS INSURANCE COMPANY WAS NO LONGER GONNA ISSUE AN INSURANCE POLICY TO HIM BECAUSE THEY FELT IT WAS UNSAFE.
AND SO ONCE WE REDIRECTED IT, IT SEEMED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM MR. TAYLOR SINCE, AND HE'S PRETTY THANKFUL.
SO IS THIS A NEW, IT WAS A NEWLY DEVELOPED HOME? NO, IT WAS AN OLD HOUSE.
BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PIPE.
THERE WAS A PIPE THAT WENT ON.
I, I ACTUALLY WENT OUT THERE AND BECAUSE OF THE WATER COMING DOWN OFF THE HILL WAS GOING TOWARDS THEIR PROPERTY
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AND THERE WAS A DISPUTE OVER THE PIPE ITSELF.UM, AND THEN THERE WAS A LAWSUIT, WHICH WE WON.
AND WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS WE, WE PAY FOR IT ANYWAY.
NO, WE'RE PAYING FOR THE WORK THAT PAUL PETRE DID TO REDIRECT THE PIPE.
'CAUSE HE DID DO THE WORK, BUT IT WAS NEVER PAVE.
SO HE REDIRECTED THE PIPE ON PROPERTY DOWN DOWN HUNTER LANE.
HE TOOK IT AWAY FROM HUNTER LANE.
SENT, TOOK IT AWAY FROM MR. TAYLOR'S PROPERTY.
SENT IT DIRECTLY DOWN HUNTER LANE ON THE PUBLIC ROAD TO THE SAWMILL, UH, PARKWAY, WHICH THEN IT COMES INTO THE DOWNPIPE.
YOU SEND US WHATEVER PAPERWORK YOU HAVE.
WHO, I HAD A QUESTION RICH ABOUT THE C B R E.
SOMEBODY WANTED TO KNOW IF, UM, IT'S A $60,000, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE KEEP RENEWING IT.
IS IT A ONE TIME 60,000, OR IS 60,000 EVERY YEAR? I DO NOT HAVE THE AGREEMENT.
DO YOU KNOW TIM? WELL, I THINK THAT, UH, IT'S COMMISSION BASED, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, C B R E DOESN'T GET THE MONEY UNTIL AFTER, BUT THE 60,000 IS, THERE'S A $60,000, UM, FEE, FINANCIAL OBLIGATION, I GUESS, WHICH SEE THAT, LIKE, THERE'S A, WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT YOUR PHONE? THAT'S YOUR PHONE.
IS THAT PARENT? IT'S ALMOST SOUNDED LIKE A BOARD OR SOMETHING ON A BOTTLE.
I'M GONNA EMAIL YOU THE QUESTION AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ANSWER THE CONS.
Y'ALL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE.
YEAH, I JUST EMAILED IT TO YOU.
THERE'S STILL STILL THINGS BEING RESOLVED.
DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXECUTIVE SESSIONS TODAY? REALLY? I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY, TO BE HONEST.
WHAT'S THAT? HIS RESIGNATION WHEN IT TAKES EFFECT.
UH, JOHN SEXTON, I HAD TO FIND, I, I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT HIS LETTER.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, GONNA BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS SOON.
THEY NEED FOR THEIR PERSONNEL FOR, YEAH.
TIM SAYS THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE JUST HAVE ONE ITEM ON THIS WEEK.
YEAH, IT'S, UH, JUST DO WE KNOW IF IT WAS ROBERTA? I THINK, OH, IS THIS, UM, LIKE A PETE THING WHERE HE'S, UH, YOU APPROVING ON TURE OR THIS IS FOR YOUR OFFICE? EXCUSE ME.
DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANNA TELL THEM WHAT THAT IS? SURE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A PW ONE EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, NO, NO.
IT'S JUST THIS IS, UH, SO SOME OF THE, UH, EMPLOYEES OF LEGAL DEPARTMENT WEREN'T THAT COMFORTABLE WITH THE DOOR SITUATION OR WHERE IT WAS UHHUH
SO ON THE AGENDA FOR YOUR REVIEW IS THE, UH, UPGRADES TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT? YEAH.
IT'S SOME SORT OF, UH, LIKE A, A MONITOR YEAH.
WHERE YOU COULD SEE WHO APPROACHES THE DOOR AND THEN THERE'S A BUZZER THAT YOU WILL LET THEM COME IN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ADVANCING THE SECURITY OF THE BUILDING.
AND THAT'S ONE OFFICE THAT'S KIND OF VERY OPEN, JUST LIKE JUDITH SAYS.
AND, AND WHERE DOES, IS THAT, IS THAT B CAMERAS PART OF OUR OVERALL SECURITY SYSTEM? OR IS IT, UH, IT'LL BE PART OF THE, IT'S, IT'S A MONITORING SYSTEM.
SO I KNOW TRISTAN IS WORKING ON A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CAMERA, AND I, HE ACTUALLY TOLD ME TODAY THAT THIS BUILDING IS ACTUALLY ON THE, UH, VERGE OF, UH, NEEDING TO BE REDONE.
'CAUSE THE SYSTEM'S BECOME, I GUESS IT'S INCREDIBLE.
TECH BECOMES SO OLD SO FAST THAT WE'RE ALMOST AT THE TIME WHERE WE NEED TO START LOOKING TO UPGRADE THE CAMERA SYSTEM.
UM, HE HAS PUT ONE OUT IN THE HALLWAY OR IN THE, UH, LOBBY, WHICH HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL.
UH, HE'S GONNA TRY ONE OUT IN THE BACK PARKING LOT, BUT AT SOME POINT IT'S GONNA BE TIME FOR, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AN UPGRADE.
I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING THAT, BUT RIGHT.
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SIX YEARS WENT BY.THAT WAS BACK 10 YEARS ON OCTOBER 3RD WITH THE, UM, GOOD LUCK YESTERDAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
YOU'RE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSS A PERSONNEL MATTER MATTERS.
WELL, THERE'S SEVERAL, RIGHT? THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE.
IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING ON C B R E THEY'RE JUST KICKED, THEY'RE JUST CHANGING THE, THE DATE THEY WANT TO EXTEND? I BELIEVE SO.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN EXTENSION.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN EXPENDITURE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
BUT, UM, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
'CAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY AN ADDITIONAL $10,000.
IT, IT JUST EXTENDING THE TERM THE TOWN WISHES IT TO EXTEND FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR.
BUT WE NEED TO FIND OUT SO WE CAN BE VERY CLEAR.
THAT $60,000 FOR C B R E IS, UH, IS A ONE TIME.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK SO.
AND THERE, THERE WAS AN EXPENDITURE.
I REMEMBER THEY HIRED ARCHITECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK THIS IS JUST EXTENDING THEIR CONTRACT TO NEGOTIATE ON THE PART OF THE TOWN.
AND IF THE DEAL IS CONSUMMATED, THAT'S WHEN THEY WOULD GET PAID.
SO I'LL CHECK, WE'LL CHECK AND WE'LL KNOW BY SURE.
YOU KNOW, LATE TONIGHT ESTIMATE DOING SOMETHING EARLIER IN THE YEAR THAT WAS $10,000.
BUT THIS IS 60, BUT IT'S EXTENDING.
UH, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE, A AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.
SO WE'RE MOVING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PERSONNEL ITEMS INVOLVING PARTICULAR PEOPLE.
ANY CONTRACTUAL OTHER, ARE THEY CONTRACTUAL? I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY CONTRACTUAL ISSUES OR ANY TENSIONS.
I'LL ALSO HAVE, UM, WE NEED TO GET LEGAL ADVICE ABOUT, UH, A FOIL, A FOIL, UH, FO REQUEST.
SO SHOULD WE GO INTO THE OTHER ROOM FOR THOSE ITEMS? YOU ARE MAKING THAT MOTION.
I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE REASONS OUTLINED.
AND YOU'LL BE, WE'RE NOT COMING BACK THIS EVENING.