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          [   			TOWN OF GREENBURGH 			ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS 			ONLINE VIA ZOOM 			FINAL AGENDA 			THURSDAY, October 21, 2021 – 7:00 P.M. 			Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, there will be no public gathering in Town Hall for this meeting. If you would like to watch the meeting, you may do so via the Town's website or via cable television. If you would like to participate in one or more of the public hearings, you must pre-register through the Department of Community Development and Conservation by emailing publichearing@greenburghny.com or calling 914-989-1538, specifying the applications that you would like to speak on. Instructions to participate will then be emailed to you or you will receive a return phone call. 			  			                  ]
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          GOOD EVENING. 
          ALL THE MEETING OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WILL NOW COME TO ORDER. 
          WE HAVE EIGHT CASES THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA. 
          PLEASE NOTE THAT THE ZONING BOARD WILL HAVE OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18TH, 2021. 
          AS USUAL, IF WE CANNOT COMPLETE HEARING ANY CASE TONIGHT, IT WILL BE ADJOURNED TO ANOTHER MEETING, HOPEFULLY TO BE COMPLETED AT THAT TIME AS IS, AS IS USUAL. 
          ALSO, TO SAVE TIME, WE WILL WAIVE A READING OF THE PROPERTY LOCATION AND RELEASE THOUGHT FOR EACH CASE. 
          HOWEVER, THAT INFORMATION WILL BE INSERTED IN THE RECORD BY THE REPORTER AND ALSO IT WILL APPEAR IN THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. 
          AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING OF TONIGHT'S CASES, THE BOARD WILL MEET IN THE ZOOM ROOM TO DISCUSS THE CASES WE HAVE HEARD TONIGHT. 
          EVERYONE HERE AT THAT TIME IS PERMITTED TO LISTEN TO OUR DELIBERATIONS, BUT THE PUBLIC WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK OR PARTICIPATE AFTER OUR DELIBERATIONS, WE COME BACK ON, ON THE RECORD FOR OUR DECISIONS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE HAVE, UH, CONSIDERED THIS EVENING. 
          TO PUT IT ON THE FORMAL RECORD AND TO BROADCAST IT TO THE COMMUNITY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, PLEASE, UH, SPEAK CLEARLY. 
          STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS OR YOUR PROFESSIONAL AFFILIATION. 
          IF YOU'RE NOT A NAMED APPLICANT. 
          ALSO PLEASE SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. 
          WE HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY ON SOME OF THE CASES THAT ARE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA AT PREVIOUS MEETING. 
          ALL PRIOR TESTIMONY IS ALREADY IN THE RECORD AND SHOULD NOT BE REPEATED. 
          FIRST CASE TO BE HEARD THIS EVENING IS CASE 2111 PROPERTY AT 11 ROYAL LAUREL STREET, HARTSDALE. 
          YES. 
          AND WHO DO WE HAVE? WE DO NOT HAVE ARCHITECT YET, CORRECT? NO, HE, HE IS ON NOW. 
          I SEE HIS NAME. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, FINE. 
          OKAY, SO, UM, IF I MAY PROCEED, UM, GOOD EVENING, UH, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          MY NAME IS, AS YOU KNOW, DENISE D'AMBROSIO. 
          I'M WITH THE LAW OFFICE OF DENISE D'AMBROSIO, 2 0 2 MAMAN AVENUE, WHITE PLAINS, NEW YORK. 
          WITH ME TONIGHT IS THE ARCHITECT, UH, FOR THE, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT ON THE SITE THAT'S, UH, UH, NIMA ALI, AND ALSO A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANTS FOR WHO'S AT A . 
          UM, BOTH OF THEM ARE HERE FOR ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS, WHATEVER. 
          I AM NOT GOING TO, UH, GO OVER WHAT WE SAID BEFORE. 
          MANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE BOARD WERE, UH, POSED IN A LETTER, UM, AND MOST OF THEM PERTAIN TO THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, THE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AND THE DRAWINGS, ET CETERA. 
          SO THEREFORE, UH, AT THIS JUNCTURE, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THE ARCHITECT TO, UM, ADDRESS THE VARIOUS ISSUES THAT, UM, WERE RAISED, UM, BY THE BOARD AND BY THE NEIGHBORS IN THE LAST MEETING. 
          YOU ARE MUTED, SIR. 
          WHO'S THE ARCHITECT? I CAN, OH, I CAN PIN THEM OR PINGING THEM. 
          YEAH, I SEE 'EM, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ALERT HIM. 
          WHAT IS THE PERSON'S NAME? MR. ALI. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. ALI, IF YOU COULD PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND PROCEED. 
          HE, HE APPEARS TO SEND HIM A MESSAGE. 
          UH, SIR, YOU'RE ON MUTED. 
          IF YOU CAN PLEASE SPEAK AND PROCEED. 
          OKAY. 
          HIS AUDIO IS NOT WORKING THERE. 
          MS. UH, NEMA, YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR VOLUME UP. 
          WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE HIS MICROPHONE IS, IS MUTED THERE. 
          ANSWER? YEAH. 
          NEMA, UNMUTE YOUR COMPUTER OR SOMETHING. 
          WE'RE NOT HEARING YOU. 
          UH, I'M SORRY, SIR. 
          IF YOU HIT THE CARROT NEXT TO THE MICROPHONE IN THE LOWER LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN, YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF OR YOU CAN TURN YOUR, UH, AUDIO UP. 
          NIMA, I I, IN ADDITION TO UNMUTING YOUR SCREEN, IF YOU GO TO YOUR 
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COMPUTER, THEY'RE A LITTLE MICROPHONES, MAYBE YOU HAVE YOUR LITTLE MICROPHONE MUTED UP AT THE TOP OR JUST HOLD THE SPACE BAR DOWN AS A TRY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DO YOU WANT TO SEPARATELY CALL HIM AND WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT CASE AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET HIM TO GET ZOOM TO FUNCTION? YES. 
          THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. 
          MY APOLOGIES, MADAM CHAIR. 
          IS THAT OKAY? EVE, YOU'RE MUTED, WAS SAYING YES, WE HAVE TO BEND TO THE WILDS OF THE ELECTRONIC AGE THAT WE HAVE NO IMMEDIATE CONTROL OVER, SO WE WILL MOVE ON AND COME BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT CASE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS CASE 21, 23, JOHN, AND SECOND. 
          SECOND NOLI PROPERTY AT 38TH FRAME VALLEY ROAD. 
          UM, UH, MA'AM, I BELIEVE HIS MIC JUST STARTED WORKING. 
          , IS IT WORKING NOW? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IS IT OKAY IF WE CYCLE BACK? SORRY. 
          YES. 
          WE'LL RECYCLE BACK TO CASE 2111. 
          PROCEED. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          UH, THIS IS NIMA. 
          I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO MAKE OUR PRESENT FIRST PRESENTATION FOR THIS, UH, PROJECT BY ME. 
          UM, ACTUALLY, UH, IF YOU RECALL IN THE BEGINNING, WE POSTPONE APPEARING BEFORE THE BOARD, AFTER WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS. 
          UH, THE IDEA WAS TO BE SENSITIVE TO THEIR LETTERS AND THEIR COMMENTS AND TRY TO, UH, UH, SHOW, UH, UH, HOW WE CAN, UH, UH, ADDRESS ALL THEIR COMMENTS. 
          UH, THE, UH, I SHOULD SAY THAT, UM, UH, THERE ARE, THERE WERE SEVERAL COMMENTS THAT CAME FROM THE NEIGHBORS, UH, IN THE BEGINNING. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, WERE, UH, ALSO COMING FROM THE BOARD. 
          UH, AMONG THESE SEVERAL COMMENTS, I'M GONNA TRY TO ADDRESS THEM QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          UH, ONE WAS THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, THE OTHER WAS THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE. 
          ANOTHER ONE WAS AMBIGUITY ABOUT WHETHER THIS A TWO STORY HOUSE OR THREE STORY HOUSE OR WHAT IT IS. 
          THERE WAS ALSO COMMENTS ABOUT TREE REMOVAL AS WELL AS THE, UH, UH, THE SETBACKS FOR THE HOUSE. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THESE ONE BY ONE. 
          UH, FIRST THING, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE SIZE OF THOSE. 
          ALSO, CAN I, UH, SHARE A SCREEN HERE TOO? UH, YES, YOU MAY. 
          YES, YOU MAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AM I SHARING A SCREEN NOW? NOT AT THE MOMENT. 
          I, OKAY. 
          ALLOW ME TO, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          LET ME SHARE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          AM I SHARING A SCREEN NOW? YES. 
          WE SEE A, A SITE PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I DID AFTER, UH, HEARING THE NEIGHBORS COME AND I ORDERED THE SURVEYOR TO GO TO THE PROPERTY AND SURVEY THE ENTIRE STREET TO THE CORNER, AS WELL AS THE SETBACKS OF THAT TWO HOUSES ADJACENT AS WELL AS THE PEAK OF, UH, THE GABLE LAND OF EACH HOUSE. 
          UH, BY DOING SO, I TRY TO MAKE A COMPOSITE SITE PLAN AND A COMPOSITE ELEVATION FOR, UH, THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY. 
          UH, LET ME, UH, TALK ABOUT FIRST THE HEIGHT OF THE, THAT WAS, UH, QUESTION. 
          UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPOSITE, UH, UH, ELEVATION THAT, UH, I HAD TO PREPARE, THAT IS HERE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I, UH, I WANT TO, UH, I, I WANT TO SAY FIRST, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE HOUSES THAT ARE BUILT TODAY IN 21ST CENTURY. 
          I I, I HAVE BEEN DESIGNING HOUSES FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS, AND TODAY WE BUILT TWO STORY HOUSE OVER A BASEMENT. 
          THAT'S BASICALLY EVERY HOUSE THAT IS DESIGNED. 
          AND SO IS THIS HOUSE. 
          THIS HOUSE IS A TWO STORY HOUSE OVER A BASEMENT. 
          THE BASEMENT OF THIS HOUSE, BECAUSE THE LOT IS NOT VERY BIG 
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TO HAVE A SEPARATE DRIVEWAY TO THE SIDE OF IT, THE BASEMENT MUST ACCOMMODATE THE GARAGE NOW, BUT YOU HAVE THE GARAGE IN THE BASEMENT. 
          YOU CANNOT PUSH THE BASEMENT TOO FAR INTO THE GROUND BECAUSE THEN YOU'LL HAVE SO MUCH SLOPE IN THE DRIVEWAY THAT THE GARAGE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE USABLE. 
          SO, IN THIS CASE, ALSO, WE HAVE BASICALLY THE GARAGE IN THE BASEMENT AND TWO STORY ABOVE. 
          AS FAR AS THE HEIGHT IS CONCERNED, THE GABLE LAND PEAK OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS WHAT IS VISIBLE. 
          THIS HOUSE HAS A HIP ROOF. 
          SO IN THE BACK, THAT IS THE, THE VERY HIGHEST PEAK, WHICH IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, BUT THE VISIBLE PEAK OF THE HOUSE THERE IS AT ELEVATION, SLIGHTLY OVER 130, WHICH IS ABOUT 130 AND FOUR INCHES. 
          THE PEAK OF THE ADJACENT HOUSE, WHICH IS A ONE STORY, AN ATTIC, IS ROUGHLY SIX INCHES HIGHER THAN THIS PEAK. 
          OKAY? THIS, WE ARE NOT A HIGH HOUSE. 
          WE ARE A VERY DETAILED HOUSE. 
          THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BIG. 
          IT'S HIGH, IT'S A VERY SMALL HOUSE, BUT DETAILED. 
          THE HOUSE NEXT TO IT, WHICH HAS A GABLE LAND, IS APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET HIGHER. 
          IT'S BIG THAN THE PEAK OF OUR HOUSE. 
          I ALSO WANNA NOW ADDRESS THE SIZE OF THIS HOUSE. 
          THIS HOUSE IS ONLY 35 FEET WIDE. 
          THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR IS ALSO 35 PLUS ANOTHER 20. 
          THAT'S A 55 FEET HIGH WHITE HOUSE, OKAY? THIS IS, AGAIN, IS NOT THE, THE HOUSE IS ONLY 1200 A SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT WITH 1200 A SQUARE FOOT ON THE SECOND FLOOR. 
          A 2,400 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE IS NOT BY ANY MEANS, A BIG HOUSE. 
          I CAN ASSURE YOU, I, I HAVE DESIGNED IN MY CAREER, MAYBE 250 TO 300 HOUSES. 
          I DON'T THINK I HAVE EVER DESIGNED HOUSES THAT ARE MUCH SMALLER THAN THIS. 
          THIS IS AS A SMALL AS YOU GET A NEW HOUSE BUILT TODAY, THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR, THE ONE STORY WITH, AND I THINK IS WHAT WAS BEING BUILT IN THE FORTIES AND THE FIFTIES, AND I HAVE HAD SO MANY CLIENTS WITH HOUSES LIKE THIS THAT COME AND THEY BLOW UP THE ROOF AND THEY PUT A SECOND FLOOR TO MAKE IT MORE USABLE FOR TODAY'S LIFESTYLE. 
          AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT WILL FORBID THIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR TO DO SO. 
          THEY DON'T NEED OUR CONSENT. 
          THEY DON'T NEED OUR PERMISSION. 
          THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT. 
          WE ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCE FOR SIZE OF THE HOUSE OR THE HEIGHT OF THE HOUSE. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT IS NEXT DOOR TO IT. 
          IT IS NOT A BIG HOUSE BY ANY MEANS. 
          I, I, I, THIS IS, UH, IT, IT'S, AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT BECAUSE OF THESE DETAILS, IT APPEARS, OH, THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON. 
          UH, OTHER ITEMS THAT I LIKE TO ADD TO ADDRESS HERE, UH, WAS REMOVAL OF THE TREES, BASICALLY, UH, LET ME GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN. 
          BASICALLY, WHEN YOU BUILT A NEW HOUSE, IT'S INEVITABLE THAT ALL TREES WITHIN FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE AND BASICALLY IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE WILL GET REMOVED BECAUSE OF EXCAVATION AND DAMAGES TO THE ROOTS. 
          SO NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF HOUSE, WHAT SIZE HOUSE YOU PUT, THAT IS INEVITABLE. 
          UH, ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS, UH, BROUGHT, UH, TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD WAS SETBACKS. 
          OKAY? WHICH IS, WHICH IS AN ITEM THAT WE ARE BEFORE YOU FOR A VARIANCE. 
          UH, I I THE SETBACK THAT THE MINIMUM SETBACK WOULD BE 10 FEET. 
          WE ARE PROVIDING AN EIGHT FOOT SETBACK TO THE NEIGHBOR, TO OUR LEFT. 
          WE ARE LEAVING TO THE RIGHT, A SMALLER SET, THE SMALLER SETBACK. 
          WHY? BECAUSE THERE IS PLENTY. 
          THIS GRASS COMES ALL THE WAY TO THE CONCRETE WALKWAY, WHICH IF I WAS TO MEASURE IT 
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FROM THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY OVER 25 FEET ACTUALLY IN, IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. 
          OUR SETBACK TO THE PROPERTY LINE IS SIX FOOT FOUR INCHES. 
          IT IS ONLY FURTHER BACK THAT WE HAVE FOUR FOOT SETBACK. 
          AND IF YOU GO FURTHER BACK TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE A SEVEN FOOT SETBACK. 
          UH, SO IT, IT'S GIVEN ALL THAT, IF THE BOARD FEELS THAT WE, IT, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO HAVE A 10 FOOT VERSUS AN EIGHT FOOT SETBACK ON THIS SIDE, BY ALL MEANS, WE CAN SHIFT THE HOUSE MOREOVER, TOWARDS CENTRAL AVENUE. 
          THE, IN THE BOARD'S LETTER, I SEE SOME INDICATION THAT THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA. 
          I PERSONALLY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, EIGHT FOOT IS PALANI SAID SETBACK, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE OTHER HOUSE HAS ABOUT 15 FOOT SETBACK TO THEIR PROPERTY LINE. 
          AND THERE IS A FENCE AND HEAVY, UH, UH, BUSHES HERE, WHICH WE CAN ALSO ADD ANOTHER ROLLOUT BUSHES ON OUR PROPERTY FOR PRIVACY. 
          THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 
          UH, THERE WAS, THERE WAS DISCUSSION WHETHER OR NOT THE MONTAGE PROPERTY COULD GIVE AWAY THIS PORTION. 
          THIS IS RIVER OF THE PROPERTY, UH, TO THE HOUSE TO MAKE IT MORE, HAVE A BIGGER LADDER, MORE CONFIRMING. 
          THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS I WAS ALSO THE ARCHITECT FOR MONTAGE. 
          THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS SUCH WITH RENDER MONTAGE AND NON AND NON-CONFORMITY, UH, IT, IT MONTAGE WAS DESIGNED WITH, ITS USING ITS MAXIMUM F A R. 
          SO, BUT HOWEVER, THE OWNERS OF MONTAGE ARE WILLING, I SPOKE TO THEM TO GIVE A DEEDED RESTRICTION WHEREBY THE USE OF THIS AREA CAN BE GIVEN TO THIS PROPERTY. 
          SO THIS PROPERTY WILL MAINTAIN IT, WILL USE IT SO LIKE THEY OWN IT, BUT MONTAGE WILL OF COURSE, PAY THE TAXES AND WILL OWN THE PROPERTY. 
          THAT CAN BE DONE. 
          UH, IT, UH, IT'S, YEAH, IT, IT, IT MIGHT BE A VIABLE SOLUTION. 
          UH, UM, SO, UH, ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD IS IF YOU LOOK AT THIS HOUSE, OKAY? WHAT IT REALLY IS, AS FAR AS WIDTH IS CONCERNED, IT'S ONLY 35 FEET WIDE. 
          IT'S A TWO CAR GARAGE, WHICH YOU NEED TO HAVE WITH AN ENTRANCE. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THESE HOUSES. 
          THERE'S A TWO CAR GARAGE WITH AN ENTRANCE. 
          THAT'S THE, WITHOUT THE HOUSE TO MAKE IT, TO MAKE IT ANY NARROWER, I DON'T THINK IT WILL DO JUSTICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS ARGUMENT TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS. 
          IF THIS LOT WAS A 75 FOOT WIDE LOT, IF IT WAS A FULLY CONFORMING LOT, YOU WOULD GET A HOUSE AT LEAST ONE AND A HALF TIMES BIGGER THAN THIS. 
          OKAY? IF YOU THINK YOU WANT A SMALLER HOUSE, THIS, THIS IS LUCKY. 
          MAYBE FOR THOSE WHO WANT A SMALLER HOUSE, THAT IS A SMALL LOT, THEN IT ACCOMMODATES A SMALL HOUSE AND NOT A, YOU KNOW, 65, 70 FEET OR 60 FEET OR 55 FEET WIDE HOUSE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER, UH, THE OTHER FACTOR. 
          UH, I, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE IF, UH, ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTION OR COUNT. 
          WELL, THERE WAS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WHAT THE BOARD, THE BOARD WANTED TO KNOW THE SQUARE FOOT OF THE HOUSE. 
          THE SQUARE FOOT OF THE HOUSE IS 2,400 SQUARE FOOT, ACTUALLY 2,399 SQUARE FOOT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE IS 1200 SQUARE FOOT. 
          WE HAVE IT AS 1200 1900 ZONING PAGE. 
          THAT INCLUDES THE FIREPLACES, UH, ALSO. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, UH, PUTTING IT IN A NUTSHELL. 
          THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADD ADDRESS THAT. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          FOR THE MOMENT, IF YOU COULD PLEASE TAKE DOWN THE 
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SHARE SCREEN AND, UH, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIRWOMAN TO LEAD OFF ANY POTENTIAL QUESTIONS. 
          I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE THIRD FLOOR WAS PART OF, UH, PROPOSAL. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          THEY, UH, UH, THE, UH, THERE IS NO THIRD FLOOR. 
          THIS HOUSE IS A TWO STORY HOUSE WITH A BASEMENT. 
          JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TYPICAL HOUSE, THE BASEMENT OF THE HOUSE WILL BE USED FOR TYPICAL BASEMENT USES. 
          I PERSONALLY USE MY BA OKAY, AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANY NEW HOUSE NOWADAYS THAT WE DON'T PUT A BATHROOM IN THE BASEMENT. 
          YOU ALWAYS PUT A BATHROOM IN THE BASEMENT. 
          YOU, WE ALL USE, WE ALL USE OUR BASEMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, GYM, RECREATION OR THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THAT'S ALL IT IS. 
          IT IS THE GARAGES IN THE BASEMENT AND THE REST OF IT FOR TYPICAL BASEMENT USE OF A FAMILY. 
          NO, I THINK THAT, UM, UH, MA'AM, UH, JUST FOR, FOR OUR PUBLIC, IF YOU COULD PLEASE KEEP YOUR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, PLEASE KEEP YOUR MICS MUTED AND, UH, YOU'LL HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. 
          WE WILL CALL ON YOU WHEN IT'S, UH, TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WAS GOING TO ADD THAT, UM, THE REQUEST THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE LETTER ALSO INDICATED WHETHER OR NOT A STATEMENT COULD BE, UH, PROVIDED SAYING THAT THE  SELLER WOULD NOT BE USED OR OCCUPIED BY A BUSINESS OR ANOTHER FAMILY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YES. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE CAN PROVIDE THAT. 
          DO, DO YOU NEED A WRITTEN STATEMENT OR CAN THE APPLICANT, UM, JUST SAY THAT ON THE RECORD NOW? IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS YOU'RE GOING TO SAY ON THE RECORD. 
          LET, LET ME SEE FIRST, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND. 
          ANYONE ON THE BOARD WISH TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE HAVE HEARD TONIGHT, OR ANYTHING THAT, UM, YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO THIS APPLICATION? NOT HEARING ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, I WOULD ENTERTAIN ANY PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS MATTER. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE, UH, MELISSA, I AM MONACO. 
          WELCOME. 
          HELLO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MY NAME IS MELISSA. 
          I, AMON, IT'S I A M AS IN MARY, O N AS IN NANCY, I C O I AM A NEIGHBOR OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T KNOW WERE FULLY ANSWERED. 
          THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO, AGAIN, NOTE THAT I UNDERSTAND AND I HEAR WHAT THE ARCHITECT IS SAYING, BUT PUTTING A FULL BATHROOM AND A BASEMENT DOES LEND ITSELF TO MORE LIVING SPACE THAN JUST A GYM OR A LAUNDRY ROOM, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK MOST OF OUR BASEMENTS LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, IT WAS THE LETTER FROM THE ATTORNEY THAT SAID THAT THERE WERE ONLY THREE TO FOUR TREES BEING REMOVED, AND AGAIN, THE ARCHITECT IS MENTIONING PUTTING IN AGAIN, ANOTHER ROW OF PLANTS, UM, OR BUSHES. 
          AND WE JUST DON'T SEE HOW THIS HOUSE IS FITTING IN THAT AREA. 
          I'M OVER HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WIDE MY HOUSE IS AT 35 FEET THAT I CAN'T FIT A TWO CAR GARAGE. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T FIT. 
          UM, I KNOW WE HAD REQUESTED THAT THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY BE STAKED OUT AND MARKED, UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN THE LETTER TO THE APPLICANT, BUT WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE WALKED THE PROPERTY, BUT IT GENUINELY, I MEAN, LOOKING AT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FLOOR PLAN, THAT PLAN WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS AND CENTRAL AVENUE AND THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE HOUSE, IT'S EXTREMELY TIGHT. 
          UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO QUESTION THE MOVING OR THE SHIFTING OF MONTAGE'S PROPERTY TO THAT RESIDENTIAL, WOULD THAT CHANGE PART OF MONTAGE PROPERTIES TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING? WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING IS AT THIS POINT, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. 
          UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD BE CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THAT ENTIRE PLOT OF LAND BECAME RESIDENTIAL, AND I THINK THAT THAT IS A DIFFERENT AND SEPARATE DISCUSSION. 
          SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UM, LIKE I SAID, THOSE ARE STILL SOME CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, AND I WOULD URGE, UM, BEFORE THE BOARD MAKES A DECISION TO PLEASE HAVE THIS PROPERTY STAKED OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT TREES ARE GOING, WHERE BUSHES ARE BEING PLANTED, BECAUSE I WALK THAT PROPERTY EVERY DAY AND I DON'T SEE HOW THAT FITS. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          HI, 
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KATHLEEN RUSSO. 
          OKAY, WELCOME MS. RUSSO. 
          PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          HI, AS PERTAINING TO THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, THE 24 SQUARE, 2,400 SQUARE FOOT PROP HOUSE, I DO AGREE IT'S NOT A LARGE HOUSE, BUT IT IS A LARGE HOUSE FOR THAT PARCEL OF PROPERTY. 
          MY HOUSE IS ONLY 1600 SQUARE FEET. 
          THAT HOUSE IS GONNA BE 800 TO 900 SQUARE FEET MORE THAN MY HOUSE. 
          NUMBER ONE IS THE ARCHITECT SAYS A FEW HOUSES I WAS OUT ON THE LOT TODAY, THEY WILL HAVE TO REMOVE 15 TREES IN ORDER TO JUST DO ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION ON THAT LOT. 
          NUMBER THREE, WHEN THEY'RE COMPARING THE HOUSES, AND I LOOK AT THE PLANS, THEIR FINAL PEAK ON THEIR HOUSE IS 12 FEET ABOVE MY HOUSE. 
          12 FEET. 
          IT'S ON THE ARCHITECT'S PLANTS. 
          IT IS NOT THE SAME HEIGHT AS . 
          THERE'S NO NEAR, WELL STILL THERE. 
          MONT PROPERTY CANNOT DIVIDE. 
          UH, MA'AM, YOUR AUDIO IS BREAKING UP. 
          UH, MS. RUSSO, MS. RUSSO, YOUR AUDIO IS BREAKING UP SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UH, WE MISSED, UM, OKAY, I'M, WE MISSED FROM THE PORTION WHERE YOU SAID, UH, YOU BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED PEAK WOULD BE 12 FEET HIGHER THAN WHAT YOUR HOUSE IS AT EVERYTHING AFTER THAT WE MISSED. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UM, WHERE WAS IT? I'M SORRY. 
          BACK END OF THEIR LOT ACTUALLY STICKS OUT INTO THE OTHER SECTION OF THE MONTAGE PROPERTY. 
          IT STICKS OUT, UM, AT LEAST THREE TO FIVE FEET FURTHER OUT THAN INTO THAT PROPERTY. 
          SO ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, STRANGE SIZE LOT, UM, BACK THERE. 
          SO THAT ALSO INTERFERES WITH ANY TYPE OF, WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IS GETTING SOME OF THE MONTAGE PROPERTY TO HELP DO THAT, WHICH I, I REALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DOING THAT. 
          UM, WHAT ELSE? I SAID THAT WE GOT THE TREES THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THAT HOUSE. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED TO RAISE IT UP FOR THE GARAGE. 
          WELL, GUESS WHAT? MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED A GARAGE. 
          YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY HAS A GARAGE. 
          IT'S NICE TO HAVE ONE, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A FULL BASEMENT UNDERNEATH THAT HOUSE, A LARGE BASEMENT. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLANS, AT SOME POINT, THEY ARE GOING TO DECIDE TO REFINISH THAT BASEMENT TO READ, REDO IT, WHICH WILL THEN MAKE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, THAT HOUSE AT LEAST 3,600 SQUARE FEET IS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ANYBODY WHO'S GOT A BRAND NEW HOUSE AT SOME POINT IS GOING TO FINISH THAT, THAT BASEMENT, ALL, IF THEY HAVE A FULL BASEMENT DOWN THERE, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE OTHER HOUSES ON THIS STREET HAVE A FINISH A BATHROOM IN, IN THEIR BASEMENT. 
          THAT IS MUCH END UP BEING USABLE LIVING, MA'AM. 
          UM, MI MS. RUSSO, MS. RUSSO, I APOLOGIZE, BUT, UM, IT'S, IF WE CAN'T PICK UP YOUR AUDIO CLEARLY, UH, IT'S NOT BEING PICKED UP BY THE STENOGRAPHER, THEREFORE WE WILL HAVE AN INCOMPLETE RECORD. 
          UM, SO I'M GONNA UNMUTE YOU ONE MORE TIME. 
          IF YOU COME IN CLEAR, UH, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          BUT IF IT COMES IN CORRECTLY, I WILL HAVE TO, UH, STOP AND I APOLOGIZE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AT SOME POINT, THEY ARE GOING TO DECIDE TO REFINISH THAT BASEMENT AND MAKE IT LIVABLE SPACE. 
          AT THAT POINT, THE PROPERTY WILL END UP, THE HOUSE ITSELF WILL BE A 3,600 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, ALRIGHT? THAT IS 2000 SQUARE FEET BIGGER THAN MY HOUSE. 
          WHETHER IT WAS BUILT IN 2040, OR I MEAN 1940 OR 2021, IT'S STILL GONNA BE 2,400 OR 3,600 SQUARE FEET AT SOME POINT, WHETHER ANYBODY'S LIVING DOWN THERE OR A BUSINESS IS BEING RUN OUT OF THERE, IT WILL, IT WILL BE FINISHED AT SOME POINT. 
          SO, I MEAN, THAT'S A MUTE POINT AT THIS MOMENT, BUT LET'S NOT FOOL OURSELVES ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS THE TREES ARE, LIKE I SAID, 14 TO 15 TREES HAVE TO COME DOWN, TAKEN AWAY EVERYTHING OFF MY SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I MEAN, THAT'S IT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT THE ARCHITECT IS TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT US. 
          IF THAT HOUSE IS TOO BIG AND WEDGED IN NEXT TO MY HOUSE, IT'S GONNA HURT MY PROPERTY VALUE AND MY RESALE VALUE. 
          IF ANY OF YOU ON THE BOARD WERE TO GO LOOKING AT MY HOUSE AFTER THIS HUGE HOUSE IS PUT UP THERE, THERE, SOMEBODY WOULD LOOK AT THE HOUSE AND SAY, WELL, I DON'T WANNA BUY MY THIS HOUSE, BECAUSE LOOK AT THAT HOUSE IS, IS LOOMING OVER IT. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY CONSIDERATIONS, AND I, AGAIN, I ASKED THE BOARD TO PLEASE COME DOWN AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, HAVE THEM PLOT OUT THE HOUSE, SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING. 
          THEY'RE SANDWICH SANDWICHING THIS HOUSE IN 
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THAT LOT. 
          THEY CAN SCALE IT DOWN. 
          IT'S 35 FEET WIDTH AND IT'S 45 FEET DEEP. 
          IT'S NOT A SMALL HOUSE. 
          THANKS VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MS. AAMCO. 
          JOANNE, DID YOU INTEND TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? UH, ACTUALLY I DID SPEAK BEFORE, BUT I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS WITH, UM, UM, NEW COMMENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD INTO RECORD IF I MAY. 
          I KNOW I HAVE SOME OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE NOT SPOKEN, BUT I WILL BE BRIEF, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SEVERAL POINTS, ESPECIALLY AFTER HEARING THE ARCHITECT'S COMMENTS. 
          NOW, MAY I DO SO? YES, PLEASE FEEL FREE. 
          GO AHEAD, MAAM. 
          OKAY. 
          FIRST THING I WANNA SAY, UM, IS I'M QUITE DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN AT THESE MEETINGS THROUGH ADJOURNMENTS, AND I KNOW COVID IS A FACTOR, AND I THANK THE ZONING BOARD FOR ALL THEIR EFFORTS, BUT A LOT OF THE ADJOURNMENTS WERE NOT DUE TO THE ZONING BOARD. 
          UM, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, UM, I GOT, I REQUESTED, AND, UH, GARRETT WAS VERY NICE. 
          HE DID GIVE ME, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONCERNS ANS THAT THE BOARD WANTED ANSWERED. 
          AS I'M LISTENING TO THE ARCHITECT TONIGHT, I DO NOT FIND THOSE ANY ANSWERS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS, AND I WILL REITERATE WHAT KATHY HAS SAID, UM, IS THAT WE ARE ALL, AND MELISSA, THAT WE ARE ALL LOOKING TO SEE WHAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE. 
          AND BY STAKING OUT THE HOUSE, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE ZONING BOARD AT THE LAST MEETING, AND TO SEE THAT AFTER A MONTH IT HAS NOT BEEN DONE SHOULD BE INDICATIVE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE SIZE OF THIS HOUSE. 
          PLEASE EXCUSE ME, MY DOGS, UM, I, UM, I HAVE NOT HEARD AT ALL YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO SAY, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE HOUSE AND SEE HOW WE CAN SCALE IT DOWN. 
          THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT. 
          THEY HAVE TOLD US THAT THIS IS THE SMALLEST. 
          AT THE LAST MEETING, ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU ASKED AND THE ATTORNEY ASKED THE OWNERS, THERE WAS A LAUGH AND IT WAS SAID NO. 
          SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          WE DO NOT ARGUE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A HOUSE THERE. 
          WE WELCOME A HOUSE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS NOT A ATTRACTIVE AT ALL, BUT WHAT, BUT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO HAVE A HOUSE THERE, BUT WE WANT A HOUSE THAT'S GOING TO COMPLIMENT ENHA, ENHANCE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT OVERWHELM IT. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO STATE IS, UM, YOU ASKED FOR THE ENGINEER SURVEY TO DO A ELEVATION SURVEY. 
          WHAT I RECEIVED IS SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE IT ON MY COMPUTER, BUT IT'S, IT WAS WHAT WAS SENT TO ME BY CAROL WALKER. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, ALL IT IS, IT DOESN'T SHOW THE HOUSES ANYMORE, WHICH, UH, THE ARCHITECT DID SHOW. 
          AND WHEN YOU LOOK, LOOK AT IT, IT'S, IT'S, THE PROPERTIES ARE LEVELED AND IT'S ALSO BEEN POINTED OUT THAT THO THAT LEVEL, THAT PROPERTY DIPS DOWN. 
          SO THE HOUSE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE BUILT, ACTUALLY IT'S LAND ELEVATION, IS BELOW THE OTHER HOUSES. 
          UM, UM, UM, OKAY, PROVIDE AN EX THE THIRD FLOOR. 
          UM, I HAVE A VERY OLD ONE FROM THE ARCHITECT, AND I, I AM NOW COMPILING A BOOK. 
          THIS IS MY LIFE. 
          UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA EXPLAIN HOW THAT'S NOT A THREE FLOOR HOUSE OR THREE STORY HOUSE. 
          I HOPE YOU CAN SEE THAT. 
          AGAIN, I CAN SEND IT THROUGH THE MAIL, BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ARCHITECT ORIGINALLY SHOWING THESE TWO DRAWINGS AND HOW SOMEBODY, I WOULD LOVE SOMEBODY TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT'S NOT THREE FLOORS. 
          UM, AS TO, TO, UM, THIS TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, AGAIN, I, I, I DEFER TO THE EXPERTS, BUT THEY ONLY GAVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE MAIN FLOOR. 
          AND THE SECOND FLOOR ISN'T A BASEMENT CONSIDERED PART OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO, UM, UM, THE THING ABOUT, UH, COULD YOU PLEASE WRITE A, A, A REMARK ABOUT THE OPEN SELLER, PLEASE UNDERSTAND. 
          I MEAN, NO DISRESPECT, BUT I HAVE LIVED HERE BEFORE MONTAGE WAS CREATED, AND I HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE PROBLEMS WITH THAT BUILDING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. 
          I URGE THIS ZONING BOARD TO LOOK AT THE SUMMONSES THAT THAT BUILDING HAS GOTTEN, BECAUSE THAT BUILDING HAS A BASEMENT THAT IS NOT FOR SELLING, AND IT HAS BEEN CITED FOR USING THAT BASEMENT FOR SIDING. 
          AND NOW YOU WANT ME 
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TO BELIEVE THAT THE SAME COMPANY HAS A BOTTOM FLOOR, AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT SAYING IT WILL NOT BE LIVABLE SPACE WITH A FULL BATHROOM. 
          PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE. 
          YOU ALSO, UM, MADE THE STATEMENT THAT THE, A ROOF IS A ROOF. 
          WHERE I COME FROM, THERE'S NOT, WE DON'T DISSECT THE HEIGHT OF THE DIFFERENT ROOFS. 
          AND JUST BECAUSE THE HIGHEST PART THAT WOULD NOT BE EQUIVALENT WITH THE HOUSES THAT ARE NEXT TO IT IS IN THE BACK, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ON THE OTHER, THE L SIDE OF LAUREL STREET, WHICH WILL FACE THAT HOUSE AND THAT ELEVATED ROOF, WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY THE HEIGHT OF THE BACK OF THE ROOF. 
          SO LET'S BE BLUNT AND REALIZE, AND PLEASE EXCUSE ME, I MEAN, NO ANGER TOWARDS ANYBODY. 
          THIS IS FRUSTRATION. 
          THIS IS WORD PLAYING GAMEPLAY. 
          AND, AND TO SAY THAT THE ROOF ISN'T GOING TO AFFECT THE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S THE BACK OF THE ROOF, THAT IS THE HIGHEST PEAK. 
          THAT'S WHERE I SIT OUT AND HAVE MY MORNING COFFEE. 
          SO THE OTHER THING IS THEY'RE, AGAIN, IF, IF THEY'RE SAYING IT'S 2,400 FEET, WHAT ABOUT THE BASEMENT? THEY ALSO HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE EXEMPTION 8 25. 
          I SHOULD REALLY BECOME A 8 25. 
          PLEASE, EXCUSE ME, I HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          UM, 8 25, WHAT IS IT? 8 25, 40 C SIX. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT SIX C, IT SAYS, EACH OWNER OF SUCH PARCELS SUBSEQUENT TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS CHAPTER, HAS NOT SUBSEQUENT TO SAID EFFECTIVE DATE OWNED OR ANY LAND ADJOINING SUCH PARCEL. 
          NOW, I KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTIAL ONE HAS A DIFFERENT NAME THAN THE MON THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, BUT WHEN WE HAD ISSUES A WHILE AGO, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT WAS THE WIFE OF ONE OF THE OWNERS OF MONTAGE. 
          SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE THAT EXEMPTION, YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT THEY'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE ON THAT PARTICULAR THING. 
          IF IT'S YOUR WIFE, IF IT, IT IS YOUR FAMILY MEMBER, YOU ALL OWN THE PROPERTIES OR ARE JOINING PROPERTIES, WHICH THIS SAYS CANNOT BE IF I'M, IF I'M QUOTING IT RIGHT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, OUR REAL, OUR BIGGEST CON, THE OTHER THING IS, IS THE SWAPPING OF LAND. 
          THE ONLY PIECE OF THAT PROPERTY THAT IS RESIDENTIAL IS THE PIECE THAT THEY WANT TO BUILD THE HOUSE ON. 
          THE OTHER PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL. 
          I WILL AGREE WITH THEM ON THAT, AND THAT MUST STAY AS IS. 
          OTHERWISE, AS YOU HAVE SAID, IT IS NON-CONFORMING BUILDING. 
          AND WE FOUGHT IT AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD KEEP IT AS IS. 
          NOTHING WOULD BE TOUCHED. 
          AND THEY, THEY GOT VARIANCES ON THE PARKING. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T, THE PARKING DOESN'T CONFORM, BUT THE STIPULATION WAS THAT THAT LAND WAS TO STAY AS IS AND TO COME BACK AND SAY, OH, WELL, WE'LL LET THEM HAVE THAT, THAT OPENS A FLOODGATE FOR ME. 
          MY BIGGEST CONCERN HERE IS SINCE THIS BUILDING HAS COME, I, THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT I HAVE BEEN IN MEETINGS WITH THEM ASKING FOR VARIANCES IS OUT, IS RIDICULOUS. 
          AND THE REALITY IS, MY CONCERN IS IN A YEAR OR TWO, AND I HOPE YOU'RE RECORDING THIS, BECAUSE IF THIS HAPPENS, I'LL, I'LL BE, UH, SURE TO GET A LAWYER IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF TAKING THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND REZONING IT TO RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND BEFORE I KNOW IT BEHIND ME AND MY NEIGHBORS IS GOING TO BE HOUSES BUILT. 
          AND HE'S GONNA CITE THIS BUILDING, THIS HOUSE IN ITS IRREGULAR SIZE AS, UM, PAST PRACTICE, AND THEREFORE ALLOW FOR BUILDING OF THINGS THAT DO NOT BELONG THERE. 
          THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE PROPERTY. 
          IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT PROPERTY. 
          BUT AGAIN, I BOUGHT MY HOUSE, ALL MY NEIGHBORS BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE, THEY DID THEIR HOMEWORK. 
          AND I WILL REPEAT AGAIN, THE, I DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP BECAUSE HE, BECAUSE THIS COMPANY HAS POOR BUSINESS SENSE. 
          I KNOW WHAT MY VALUE OF, I KNOW WHAT KATHY RUSSO'S HOUSE IS. 
          I KNOW WHAT A GIANT HOUSE NEXT TO IT WILL DO IN TERMS OF HER VALUE. 
          WE ARE SAYING WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A HOUSE BEING BUILT, A HOUSE THAT COMPLIMENTS OUR AREA, NOT SOMETHING THAT OUT OVERWHELMS IT, AND NOT SOMETHING THAT IS USED AS A PAWN TO CREATE MORE BUILDING ON PROPERTY THAT IS IRREGULAR AND ILL SUITED FOR RESIDENTS. 
          I, 
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I, I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          IS, UH, I RECEIVED NO CHATS. 
          I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE WITH THEIR HAND UP. 
          UH, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER RESIDENTS THAT WANNA SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR MIC AND LET US KNOW. 
          OTHERWISE, WE'LL TURN IT BACK TO THE, UH, CHAIRPERSON. 
          HI. 
          HI. 
          HELLO, MA'AM. 
          PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          MY NAME IS JERMAINE SAUER. 
          THAT'S J E R M A I N E R A M S A U E R I. 
          I AGREE. 
          I DON'T, I NEED TO REPEAT WHAT'S BEEN SAID ALREADY. 
          I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY, ALL MY NEIGHBORS. 
          I JUST WANNA REQUEST THAT THE LAND ESTATE, SO WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE I STILL, I DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY AND I LOOK AT IT, CANNOT PICTURE WHAT THEY WANNA PUT ON THERE, FITTING AT ALL, NOT OVERLAPPING EVERYTHING. 
          IT'S JUST INSANE. 
          AND MY PROPERTY, MY BACKYARD, UH, BORDERS, UH, THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL LAND, SO IT JUTS OUT ONTO IT. 
          SO THIS WILL, UH, TOTALLY AFFECT ME AND MY FAMILY, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING OUTSIDE IN THE BACKYARD AND HAVING THIS TOWERING BUILD THERE. 
          SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT STATE AND GET A BETTER PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IT IS THEY WANT, BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS, UH, LIKE AN INAPPROPRIATE PLAN FOR THAT LITTLE TINY SLICE OF LAND. 
          SO THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I WANTED TO ADD. 
          IT'S SOMETHING I WAS DISAPPOINTED NOT TO SEE HAPPEN, AND I, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT DONE AND THE BOARD GOING OUT AND CHECKING IT OUT BEFORE MAKING A DECISION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE DOESN'T LOOK THAT WAY. 
          UM, IF I MAY TAKE FIVE MINUTES TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE. 
          CERTAINLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ON THE FIRST, UH, COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, UH, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I DID NOT ADDRESS THE STAKING UP THE PROPERTY. 
          MY MISTAKE, UH, I, I, UH, FORGOT IT. 
          UH, WE DID ASK THE SURVEYOR, THE SURVEYOR'S OFFICE SAID, THEY SAID THAT HE'S IN EUROPE PRESENTLY. 
          THAT'S WHY HE COULDN'T MISTAKE IT. 
          HOW WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO STAKE OUT THE PROPERTY. 
          AND, UH, ONCE WE STAKE IT, I HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY PUT SOME CHALK ON THE BORDER OF THE HOUSE, WHICH TENDS TO WASH AWAY ALL THE TIME. 
          SO IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO COME, IF THERE CAN BE AN APPROXIMATE DATE, UH, FOR WHEN YOU WISH TO COME, UH, AND THE NEIGHBORS, UH, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY GETS STAKED OUT, UH, FOR THAT TIME, THIS WAY, UH, WE DON'T JUST TAKE IT OUT AND JUST WASHED AWAY. 
          UH, THERE WAS, UH, ALSO, UH, UH, AND THE SECOND NEIGHBOR, UH, UH, MADE A COMMENT THAT THE PEAK OF THIS HOUSE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 12 FEET HIGHER THAN THE PEAK OF ANY ADJACENT HOUSE. 
          THAT IS INCORRECT. 
          IF I CAN, IF YOU WANT ME TO SHARE THE SCREEN, I CAN. 
          I HAVE CHECKED IT PREVIOUSLY. 
          THERE'S ONLY FOUR FEET OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GABLE AND THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND THE VERY PEAK OF THE HOUSE IN THE BACK. 
          AND THE, THE PROPERTY, AS I SAID, AROUND THE CORNER, IS TWO FEET HIGHER THAN US, AND IS TWO FEET LOWER THAN THE VERY PEAK OF THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY. 
          THERE IS, AGAIN, I THINK THERE IS A VERY BIG MISCONCEPTION ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS HOUSE AND THE HEIGHT OF THIS HOUSE. 
          THE OTHER THING I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND, I MEAN, EVERYBODY USES THEIR BASEMENT. 
          WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE, THE, THE USE OF THE BASEMENT, YOU KNOW, UH, IN A RESIDENT IN A HOUSE, MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON THE VALUE OF OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY? IF I USE MY BASEMENT OR I DON'T USE MY BASEMENT, I, I REALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME. 
          THAT, AND, AND WE'VE FIGURED THE HOUSE ON THE TWO STORIES ABOUT THE BASEMENT, THAT'S THE AREA THAT IS ALWAYS, UH, FIGURED OUT. 
          AND IF THE NEIGHBOR SAID THEIR HOUSE IS 1600 SQUARE FOOT, I'M SURE THEY DID NOT FIGURE THEIR BASEMENT. 
          UH, THE OTHER, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT RESALE VALUE. 
          HAVING A NEW HOUSE LIKE THIS NEXT DOOR TO YOU WILL DEFINITELY INCREASE THE LEASE VALUE OF THAT. 
          THIS HOUSE, BY NO MEANS IS, IS, IS OVERWHELMING 
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ANY HOUSE. 
          THIS, THIS HOUSE IS PROBABLY SMALLER THAN MOST. 
          THE, THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR IS 55 FEET WIDE. 
          THIS HOUSE IS 35 FEET WIDE. 
          UH, IT, IT, IT, IT, IT JUST DETAILED, UH, OTHER ITEMS, UH, THE THREE STORE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, I DID ADDRESS THE ROOF. 
          I, UH, I THINK I, I, OH, THE, ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER NEIGHBOR SAID, WELL, MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED A GARAGE. 
          YES, WE DO NEED, IT IS REQUIRED BY ZONING. 
          WE MUST HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE, UH, FOR THE HOUSE. 
          AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          UM, UH, CAN I ADD SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED IN RESPONSE, WHICH IT IS THAT, OKAY. 
          I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT, GARY. 
          WELL, COULD I RESPOND? YES, GO AHEAD. 
          YES, GO AHEAD. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, FROM A ZONING COURT BOARD, UH, CODE, EXCUSE ME, PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, UH, A BASEMENT IS NOT DEFINED AS A FLOOR. 
          A BASEMENT IS A PORTION OF A BUILDING THAT IS COMPLETELY OR PARTIALLY, UM, BELOW FINISHED GRADE. 
          THIS IS A BASEMENT, SO YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S A THREE FLOOR, THREE STORY HOME. 
          UM, WE'VE ALREADY INDICATED THAT, UM, WE WOULD PROVIDE, UM, A STATEMENT AS REQUESTED BY THE BOARD, WHETHER IT'S ON THE RECORD HERE OR IN WRITING. 
          UM, WHICHEVER'S PREFERRED IS WHAT WE'LL DO, UM, THAT SELLER WILL, THAT THE SELLER WILL NOT BE RENTED OR OCCUPIED BY A BUSINESS OR SECOND FAMILY. 
          UM, SO THAT WILL BE DONE. 
          UH, FROM ANOTHER, UM, LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S BEEN, UM, CONVERSATION WITH REGARD TO THE SWAPPING OF LAND MAKING, UH, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL AND VICE VERSA. 
          THAT IS NOT WHAT IS BEING OFFERED HERE. 
          WHAT IS BEING OFFERED HERE IS A PERMANENT EASEMENT, A RECIPROCAL EASEMENT, AN EASEMENT THAT WOULD, UM, THE, WHERE THE MONTAGE PROPERTY WOULD SAY THAT THEY WOULD NOT BUILD ON IT FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES OR OTHERWISE. 
          AND, UH, UH, FOR THE, WHATEVER THE STRIP IS THAT'S DEFINED, AND IF IT'S THE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY, WHATEVER THE BOARD FEELS IS NECESSARY, OR EVERYONE COLLECTIVELY AGREES IS NECESSARY, WE'RE WILLING TO DO AN EASEMENT THAT MONTAGE WOULD GIVE TO THE PROPERTY, AND THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD GIVE THE MONTAGE THAT THEY WOULD ONLY USE IT FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES, NOT BUILD ANYTHING ON IT, BUT JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF FACILITATING, UM, THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A WIDER PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR ZONING PURPOSES. 
          UM, WHEN THAT EASEMENT IS PROVIDED, IT WILL ADD, I BELIEVE, AND, AND NEMA CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ANOTHER SEVEN FEET. 
          UM, SO THAT THE COMBINED SIDE YARD WOULD RE BE REDUCED BY APPROXIMATELY SEVEN FEET. 
          AND THAT'S AT THE PORTION WHERE IT'S THE SMALLEST AT FOUR FEET. 
          UH, SO THE VARIANCE WOULD NOT BE VERY LARGE AT ALL. 
          UM, YOU WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT A COMBINED SLIDE JET OF 22, AND THIS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY, I BELIEVE, 17. 
          AND NIMA, UH, I'LL DEFER TO YOU ON THE EXACT NUMBERS. 
          UM, SO IT'S NOT A, A BIG, UH, IT'S NOT A BIG COMBINED SIDE YARD. 
          AND IF THE HOUSE IS SHIFTED OVER, AS NEMA SAID, THE WILL THAT THE CLIENT IS WILLING TO DO, YOU WOULD HAVE THE 10 ON THE SIDE YARD OF SEVEN, UH, LAUREL STREET. 
          UM, AND I'D ALSO LEGALLY, AGAIN, LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THAT ESSENTIALLY IS A SIDE YARD AND A COMBINED, COMBINED SIDE YARD VARIANCE. 
          THE OTHER TWO VARIANCES ARE THE FEET, UM, UH, THE 25 FEET, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE 75 FEET. 
          AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE VARIANCE ARE NOT SELF-CREATED. 
          UM, IT, IT, IT CAME WITH THE PROPERTY AND IT FIRST AND FOREMOST CAME FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO RALPH CARRERA BY DEED THAT CONTEMPLATED THE BUILD OF A HOUSE IN A ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S THE SAME AS THIS ZONING DISTRICT. 
          SO THAT IS NOT SELF-CREATED. 
          IT IS A HARDSHIP. 
          AND QUITE FRANKLY, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT, IT'S LEGALLY BINDING TO THE EFFECT THAT THE, A VARIANCE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE BEEN NECESSARY BECAUSE THE DEEDED SAYS YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY IN THAT DISTRICT. 
          SO YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT TWO MINIMAL, UH, UH, VARIANCES, A COMBINED SIDE YARD AND, UM, EXCUSE ME, A SIDE YARD. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY QUESTION IS, UH, MA'AM, UH, IF YOU COULD PLEASE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANNA SPEAK, WE'LL, YOU COULD LET US KNOW, 
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UH, MADAM CHAIR, UH, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY WILL BE STAKED, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, THERE WILL BE A LIKELY ADJOURNMENT. 
          WE'RE AT ROUGHLY ONE HOUR ON THIS APPLICATION, AND I KNOW WE HAVE A HEAVY AGENDA. 
          I JUST WANNA, WANNA POSE THE QUESTION TO YOU, UH, HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, , I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, WE HAD BEEN TOLD THAT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK. 
          AND AS, UM, MR. GAR, UH, MR. KANE SAYS WE WILL, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE REQUEST WAS MADE REGARDING THE PROPERTY BEING STAKED, IT NOT BEING STAKED. 
          AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD ASK. 
          SO I WOULD A, I WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN IT AT THIS POINT, UM, FOR PURPOSES OF MOVING FORWARD ON OUR AGENDA. 
          IF FOR SOME REASON WE HAVE TIME AND WE ARE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THIS CASE, GIVEN THE OTHER CASES THAT WE HAVE, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO DO SO. 
          OTHERWISE, MA'AM, YOU COULD, YOU COULD EITHER WRITE WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO ADD, OR YOU CAN CERTAINLY, IF WE DO ADJOURN THE MATTER TO ANOTHER PROCEEDING, YOU CAN COME AND SPEAK YOURSELF AT THAT TIME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I DO HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, KATHY RUSSO ABOUT WHERE THE HOUSE WOULD BE SHIFTED TO, HOW WOULD IT AFFECT THE YARD ON 37 LAUREL STREET? BECAUSE AS WAS STATED, IT DOES JOT OUT, UM, AS FAR AS, UH, MA'AM, SO RIGHT, WE HAD INDICATED THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GO FOR THROUGH ANOTHER ROUND OF PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, WHICH WAS JUST STATED BY THE CHAIR. 
          SO MS. RUSSO, WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. 
          IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN EMAIL THEM IN, WE WILL SEND THEM TO THE APPLICANT. 
          BUT AT THIS TIME, UNLESS I'M MISUNDERSTANDING, UH, WE WILL BE PROCEEDING TO THE NEXT APPLICATION. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT IS CASE 2120 BA LEASING B S C AT 7 7 7 OLDS RIVER ROAD. 
          UH, MADAM CHAIR, SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG AGENDA. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S MY EYES. 
          I HAVE IT DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE, THE RIGHT ONE. 
          HANDY. 
          2023, I'M SORRY. 
          , UH, S COLEY PROPERTY AT 18 SPRING VALLEY ROAD. 
          HELLO. 
          UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          HI, UH, GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, MY NAME IS NICHOLAS SHARIA. 
          I AM WITH HUDSON ENGINEERING, UH, REPRESENTING THE OWNERS OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AT 38TH SPRING VALLEY, PGE AND SASHA COLEY. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SEEKING AN AREA VARIANCE FOR AN EXISTING SECTION OF THEIR DRIVEWAY. 
          UM, MAY I, UH, SHARE MY SCREEN? YES, PLEASE DO. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO, UH, WE RECEIVED TWO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, UM, FROM OUR LAST MEETING. 
          UH, IT WAS RECOMMENDED PLACING PERVIOUS, UM, PAVERS IN THE ENCROACHING AREA, UM, OUTLINED BY THIS DASHED AREA. 
          THIS DASHED LINE HERE. 
          UM, WE ARE PROPOSING A SECTION OF THE ENCROACHING AREA TO BE CONVERTED TO PERVIOUS PAVERS. 
          UM, THERE'S TWO REASONS FOR THIS. 
          UH, ONE REASON IS THE RUNOFF FROM THE EXISTING, UM, ILLEGAL PORTION SHOWN HERE IS ALREADY BEING TREATED BY AN EXISTING TRENCH DRAIN, UM, AT THE, AT PROPERTY LINE, BASICALLY, UH, AT THE, AT, SORRY, AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, SECOND IS, UM, TO REPLACE THIS ENTIRE AREA WITH PREVIOUS PAVERS. 
          UM, IT'S NOT EXACTLY AESTHETICALLY APPEALING. 
          SO, UM, THOSE ARE TWO REASONS. 
          UM, NOT SURE HOW MUCH THE, THE BOARD WANTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ENTIRE AREA AS FAR AS CONVERTING IT TO THE PREVIOUS PAPERS, BUT THOSE ARE TWO REASONS. 
          UM, FOR, UH, JUST A SECTION OF THIS BEING SHOWN AS PERVIOUS. 
          EXCUSE ME, NICHOLAS? YES, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE SHARING A LETTER, YOU'RE NOT SHARING. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          GIMME ONE SECOND. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          SURE, NOT A PROBLEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SORRY. 
          CAN YOU SEE THE, THE MAP NOW? LET ME ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT. 
          OKAY, YES, WE NOW SEE IT. 
          THANKS ABOUT THAT , UH, ZOOM, HUH? UM, ANYWAYS, SO YES, SO THE AREA IN QUESTION IS SHOWN. 
          GIMME ONE SECOND. 
          LEMME ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO THE AREA IN QUESTION, UH, THAT IS ENCROACHING IS REPRESENTED BY THIS DASH LINE HERE. 
          UM, WE'RE SHOWING A SECTION OF THAT BEING CONVERTED TO PURVIEW PAVERS. 
          AGAIN, A REASON FOR THIS WAS ONE, AESTHETICALLY IT LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN REPLACING THIS ENTIRE AREA. 
          AND 
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TWO, UM, THE, THE EXISTING LEGAL PORTION OF THE DRIVEWAY WAS ALREADY BEING TREATED BY THIS, UH, EXISTING, UM, TRENCH DRAIN AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, THE, THE SECOND, UH, COMMENT REGARDING, UM, SCREENING AT THE TOP OF THIS SECTION HERE, UM, JUST TO, I, I GUESS THIS WAS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBOR TO THE RIGHT. 
          UM, AGAIN, UH, WE HAVE PROVIDED A LETTER OF NO OBJECTION FROM THE NEIGHBOR TO THE RIGHT. 
          UM, MS. COLEY'S, UH, KIDS AND THEIR KIDS PLAY AND OFTEN USE THIS AREA. 
          AND ALONG WITH THAT, THIS AREA IS ALSO USED AS ACCESS, UH, TO THE REAR YARD FOR THE COLEYS, UM, FOR THEIR LANDSCAPING. 
          UM, THIS AREA IS ABOUT TWO FEET WIDE. 
          UM, THERE'S A GATE HERE, WHICH LIKE I SAID, IS USED BY THE LANDSCAPERS, AND TO PUT LANDSCAPING HERE WILL RESTRICT THIS ACCESS AND JUST MAKE IT A LOT MORE DIFFICULT FOR, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ANYONE NEEDS TO ACCESS THE BACKYARD, UM, FOR WORK, UH, PURPOSES TO GO THROUGH THIS AREA IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, IT LANDSCAPING IS, IS, UH, PLANTED THERE. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I MENTIONED THE LETTER OF NO OBJECTION. 
          UM, THERE ARE, THOSE ARE ONLY TWO COMMENTS RECEIVED. 
          SO, UM, LEAVING YOUR HANDS TO LET US KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW TO PROCEED IF THIS CAN BE RESOLVED TONIGHT. 
          ALSO, WE'RE  ANY QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD? HI, MY NAME IS PUJA COLEY. 
          I'M ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY THAT RETAINING FOR THE LANDSCAPING, THERE'S A RETAIN ABOUT APPROXIMATELY SIX FOOT HIGH RETAINING WALL BET FROM, UM, FROM THE TOP. 
          OUR, OUR LANDSCAPE IS ON A HILL, SO THAT RETAINING WALL THAT'S SHOWN THERE IN THE PICTURE ACTUALLY IS ABOUT SIX FEET HIGH. 
          SO YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOVE A CAR. 
          UM, AND SO IT DOES ACTUALLY PROVIDE SCREENING AS IT IS, AND THERE ARE SOME LARGE TREES TOWARDS THE FRONT END OF THAT, UM, EVEN AFTER THE GATE ITSELF. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, DUE TO ACCESS, IF WE WERE TO LANDSCAPE THAT THE LANDSCAPERS WOULD NO LONGER BE ALLOWED TO BE ON OUR PROPERTY AND WOULD HAVE TO GO ONTO THE OTHER, ONTO OUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY IN ORDER TO ACCESS OUR BACKYARD TO, YOU KNOW, MOW THE LAWN. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? UH, MR. BODEN WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. 
          UM, MY NAME IS MURRAY BODEN. 
          I LIVE IN HARTSDALE. 
          THIS IS A, GOING TO BE A MORE SERIOUS GOING FORWARD UNDER THE REALIZATION THAT WE'RE LIVING IN A WORLD AFFECTED BY GLOBAL WARMING. 
          MORE CARS WILL BE IN DRIVEWAYS AS MORE YOUNG PEOPLE STAY IN A HOUSE LONGER. 
          AND THE WAY WE DID BUSINESS BEFORE CANNOT BE GOING FORWARD. 
          THE USE OF CURBS AND LOW, UH, AND, UH, VEGETATION TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM KEEPING THE CARS ON THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE DEALT WITH. 
          AND THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK AS NICE AS IT USED TO BE, SORRY, PEOPLE, GLOBAL WARMING IS HERE. 
          ALL AUTOMOBILE AGENT MANUFACTURING PLANTS ARE GOING ELECTRIC. 
          IT'S TAKING TIME. 
          IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, READ THE NEWS, UH, READ VARIOUS THINGS IN INFORMATION. 
          IF ALL OF THE AUTOMOBILE AGENCIES, MANUFACTURERS ARE GOING ELECTRIC, THERE'S A MESSAGE THERE. 
          WE HAVE TO, GREENBERG AND OTHER LOCALITIES WILL HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO DEAL WITH GLOBAL WARMING IN DIFFERENT WAYS THAN THEY WERE DONE BEFORE. 
          CONCRETE IS RELATIVELY DESTRUCTIVE TO THE ENVIRONMENT, AND WE HAVE TO COME TO TERMS WITH USING LESS OF IT. 
          IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS, AND I WILL SPEAK ABOUT THIS EVERYWHERE I CAN. 
          MY GRANDCHILDREN'S GENERATION IS GOING, IS AFFECTED BY THIS. 
          THEY THINK DIFFERENTLY. 
          THEY LIVE WITH THEIR PARENTS LONGER. 
          THERE ARE MORE CARS IN DRIVEWAYS. 
          YOU CAN'T RESTRICT THE DRIVEWAY, BUT YOU CAN MAKE IT PERVIOUS. 
          SO THE WATER GOES IN, PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO LIVE DIFFERENTLY. 
          THERE'LL BE LESS GRASS, THERE'LL BE LEAF BLOWERS WILL BE ELECTRIC. 
          IN CALIFORNIA, THE LAW WAS PASSED THIS WEEK THAT ALL LEAF BOWERS WILL HAVE 
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TO BE BATTERY OPERATED WITHIN A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          I'M GONE. 
          I'M 88 YEARS OLD. 
          I'M OUTTA HERE. 
          IT'S MY GRANDCHILDREN'S GENERATION I'M WORRIED ABOUT. 
          AND YOU SHOULD BE TOO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. 
          ANY FINAL COMMENT FROM THE APPLICANT? UH, NO THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING ON THEN TO THE NEXT CASE OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA CASE 2125. 
          PETER AND ALICE STRATIGOS PROPERTY AT 29 HAWTHORNE WAY. 
          THANKS, NICK. 
          IF YOU COULD STOP SHARE PLEASE. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          UH, MY NAME IS PETER STRATUS. 
          MY ADDRESS IS 29 HAWTHORNE WAY, HARTSDALE. 
          I'M AT, UM, LAST NAME IS SPELLED S T R A T I G O S. 
          AND I HOPE YOU'RE HEARING ME ALRIGHT. 
          I'M BACK. 
          UM, THE, UM, REASON FOR MY APPEARANCE THIS EVENING IS I'VE MADE AN APPLICATION TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO INSTALL A AMATEUR RADIO ANTENNA TOWER AND ANTENNA IN MY BACKYARD AT, UH, 29 HAWTHORNE WAY. 
          IN RESPONSE TO MY, UM, PRESENTATION ON, UM, SEPTEMBER 13TH, UH, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG REQUESTED, UH, ME TO RESPOND TO SIX QUESTIONS OF WHICH I RESPONDED TO ON OCTOBER 8TH, UM, 2021. 
          UM, THE FIRST QUESTION WAS IF I COULD FLOAT A BALLOON AT THE, UH, EXPECTED HEIGHT OF THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, ACTUALLY THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE ANTENNA, AND THEN OBSERVE FROM OFFSITE LOCATIONS AS TO WHETHER THAT BALLOON COULD BE SEEN FROM THOSE OFFSITE LOCATIONS. 
          UM, ATTACHED TO MY RESPONSE IS A KEY, WHICH SHOWS THE VARIOUS LOCATIONS WHERE I TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE, OR ATTEMPTED TO TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE BALLOON. 
          UH, JUST A BRIEF NOTE. 
          THE NORTH, THE, THE, UH, TOP OF THE PAGE IS THE NORTH, THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE IS THE SOUTH, THE HOME. 
          THE LOT TO MY NORTH IS A, AN ACRE IN SIZE. 
          MY LOT IS AN ACRE PLUS IN SIZE, AND THE LOT, LOT TO THE SOUTH IS ONE AND A HALF ACRES. 
          UM, THERE ARE THREE, UM, JPEGS OR PICTURES I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT FIRST. 
          THE FIRST IS, UH, NUMBER NINE 13, WHICH IS STRAIGHT ON LOOKING AT, UM, THE BALLOON WHEN IT'S DIRECTLY ERECTED. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, FROM MY VIEW, I USUALLY, YOU CAN SEE THE STRING AND IT'S, UM, STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN. 
          THANK YOU GARRETT. 
          UM, SO THAT SHOWS IT AT ITS MAXIMUM HEIGHT FROM THE STREET. 
          THE SECOND PICTURE I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU IS 9 0 6. 
          AND THIS IS, WELL, WE'VE GOT IT TURNED HERE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          THIS IS WHERE THE, THE BALLOON HAS FLOATED OVER TO THE SUGAR MAPLE IN MY BACKYARD. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW, GARRETT, IF YOU CAN POINT OUT THE STRING LINE WELL, NO, IT'S ON A, IT'S ON A DIAGONAL THE BOAT. 
          MAYBE THAT THAT'S, I DON'T SEE IT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I COULD SEE IT IN THE PICTURE THOUGH. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          UM, AND YOU'LL NOTICE HOW THE SUGAR MAPLE DWARFS THE HEIGHT OF THE BALLOON, THOSE TREES, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE LATER HOW I MEASURED THE TREES. 
          THOSE TREES ARE ALL 75 TO 80 FEET TALL THROUGHOUT THE YARD. 
          SOME OF THEM ARE DECIDUOUS TREES, AS IS THE SUGAR MAPLE. 
          OTHERS ARE PINE OR EVERGREENS, WHICH NEVER LOSE THEIR LEAVES. 
          SO IT'S A REAL MIX OF A VARIETY OF TREES IN THE YARD. 
          THE THIRD ONE I LIKE TO SHOW YOU IS, UM, THIS ONE. 
          YES, 9 21. 
          9 29, I BELIEVE THESE PICTURES. 
          OKAY, SO THE ONE THAT IS HERE IS CALLED 9 31. 
          IS THAT OKAY? 9 31. 
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THAT'S FINE. 
          YEAH, I GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THE NUMBERING. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, I HAVE LAID ONE OF THE ELEMENTS FROM THE ANTENNA AGAINST THE HOUSE AT THE LOWER WINDOW. 
          IT'S RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE PICTURE. 
          AND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE THE, UM, THE, UH, ELEMENT AGAINST THE LIGHT GRAY SIDING OF THE HOUSE. 
          YOU SEE IT REACHES UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR AND ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY DOWN THE SECOND FLOOR WINDOWS. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN FRONT OF THE, UH, AZALEA AT THE BOTTOM. 
          THE, UH, ELEMENT IS VERY VISIBLE, BARELY VISIBLE. 
          IT'S, IT'S A FIBERGLASS ELEMENT AND IT'S LIKE, IT'S A, A MEDIUM GRAY IN COLOR, SO IT WILL BLEND IN VERY WELL WITH THE, UH, GREENERY IN THE BACKYARD. 
          UM, NOW I'D LIKE TO GO BRIEFLY THROUGH THE REMAINING PHOTOGRAPHS, JPEGS THAT WE TOOK. 
          AND LET'S START AT THE SOUTH. 
          UH, GARRETT WITH NUMBER NINE 16, UM, OH, I GUESS THIS ONE'S BLACK AND WHITE. 
          THIS IS NINE 19 STREET VIEW NUMBER TWO. 
          THIS IS A BLACK AND WHITE PHOTO. 
          THE, WITH THE BALLOON HERE, UH, DID YOU WANT A DI A DIFFERENT PHOTO? HERE'S NINE 16. 
          YEAH, IF YOU COULD TURN IT, THIS IS FROM MY NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY, THE SOUTH NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE TREES, YOU CAN SEE MY HOUSE, OR AT LEAST A PART OF MY HOUSE THROUGH THE TREES, THE LOWER PART OF THE TREES, BUT AT THE UPPER LEVELS, THE TREES ABSOLUTELY OBSCURE THE BALLOON. 
          UH, LET'S GO TO NINE 15 NEXT, GARRETT, WHICH IS, UH, FROM THE SOUTH EDGE OF MY PROPERTY. 
          OKAY, YEAH. 
          THIS IS ALSO LOOKING THROUGH IF, UH, LOOKING THROUGH, WELL THIS ISN'T NINE 15 GARRETT, IS IT? OKAY, I'LL, I'LL TRY AND LOCATE NINE 15. 
          I JUST DIDN'T SEE IT RIGHT AWAY. 
          YEAH, 19 9 31, 9 0 6, UH, NINE 19, UH, 9 16, 9 11 HERE. 
          WE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS ONE YET. 
          LET ME, UH, MAKE THIS ONE. 
          WELL, LET'S SEE, WHERE IS, THIS IS NINE 11 NEIGHBOR'S SIDE. 
          TOWARDS NEIGHBOR'S SIDE. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THIS IS UP THE STREET. 
          THIS IS CLOSER. 
          YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS NINE 11 IS WAY UP BEHIND MY HOUSE ON THE NEIGHBOR'S DRIVE THERE. 
          AND RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE PHOTOGRAPH, YOU CAN JUST SEE THE BALLOON THROUGH THE SUGAR MAPLE TREE. 
          I HOPE EVERYONE CAN SEE THAT IT'S RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE PHOTOGRAPH. 
          THAT'S ALL THE WAY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND TO THE EAST OF MY HOUSE. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY THE HOUSE BEHIND ME. 
          THEN IF WE CAN MOVE DOWN TO 9 0 9 GARRETT, WHICH COULD BE THIS ONE. 
          AND IF YOU COULD TURN IT, UM, I DO NOT SEE THE BALLOON THERE. 
          OH WAIT, WE, I'M, I'M SORRY. 
          AGAIN, IT'S VERY BARELY VISIBLE THROUGH THE SUGAR MAPLE TREE. 
          IT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY ACROSS THE PHOTOGRAPH, A THIRD OF THE WAY IN FROM LEFT HAND SIDE. 
          AND YOU'LL JUST SEE THE LOWER HALF OF THE BALLOON THROUGH THE SUGAR MAPLE TREE THAT SITS IN MY YARD. 
          AND THEN IF WE COULD GO TO NINE 12 GARRETT, THIS IS FROM MY NEIGHBOR'S FRONT YARD. 
          UM, WELL THIS IS, THIS IS 9 0 4. 
          9 0 4. 
          THIS IS FROM MY NEIGHBOR'S SWIMMING POOL AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE OH, RIGHT, YOU, YOU GOT YOUR HAND ON IT, GARRETT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THAT'S SHOWING THE BALLOON THROUGH THE, THE TREES AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          IF NINE 12 IS AVAILABLE, THIS IS FROM THE STREET AGAIN. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I DON'T SEE NINE 12. 
          OKAY, WELL THAT GIVES YOU A PRETTY GOOD YEAH. 
          IDEA OF, UM, THE, UM, THE VIEWS. 
          ONE OTHER, GARRETT, IF WE COULD FIND 9 23. 
          THIS IS FROM MY FRONT DOOR LOOKING, UH, 
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WEST. 
          WELL THIS IS, OKAY, HERE'S 9 23. 
          RIGHT, THIS IS LOOKING WEST FROM MY FRONT DOOR AT THE HOMES THAT ARE ON TOLAND AVENUE, WHICH THEY ACTUALLY FACE TOPLIN. 
          THIS IS THEIR BACKYARDS HERE, BUT IT IS ACROSS HAWTHORNE WAY. 
          PLUS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HAWTHORNE WAY, OUR, UM, IS, UM, VILLAGE PRO OR TOM PROPERTY, UH, FOR THE, UH, STREET. 
          UH, NOW I'VE ALSO FORWARDED, OR MY TWO NEIGHBORS HAVE FORWARDED TWO, UM, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS THEIR OWN EMAILS TO THE EFFECT THAT THEY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE, UM, ERECTION OF THE TOWER AND THE ANTENNA. 
          UH, THE SECOND QUESTION THAT THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS REQUESTED ME TO ANSWER WAS WHY I CAN'T INSTALL THE TOWER PRESUMABLY. 
          AND THE ANTENNA ON MY REAR ROOF, UH, MY REAR ROOF IS COVERED COMPLETELY WITH SOLAR PANELS, UH, THAT HAS TURNED OUT TO BE A WONDERFUL INVESTMENT. 
          UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF HOW EFFICIENT THOSE SOLAR PANELS ARE, WE DON'T PAY ANY ELECTRIC BILLS EXCEPT DURING THE MONTHS OF JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, AND THAT'S RUNNING OUR AIR CONDITIONING THROUGH MUCH OF JULY AND AUGUST. 
          SO YOU CAN APPRECIATE WHAT A SAVINGS, UH, THOSE SOLAR PANELS, UH, PROVIDE US. 
          AND, UH, I WOULD NOT WANNA PUT ANYTHING IN A POSITION WHERE IT MIGHT JUST JEOPARDIZE, UH, THOSE PANELS. 
          UM, THIRD QUESTION WAS, YOU ASKED ME TO CONTACT THE, UM, WEST OR THE, UM, GREENBERG, UH, ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER THEY HAD ANY UNADDRESSED SAFETY CONCERNS. 
          UH, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A REPLY FROM THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD. 
          MY, UM, REQUEST TO THEM WAS FORWARDED TO THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD THROUGH, UH, COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN BECAUSE, UH, I WAS UNAWARE OR COULD NOT LOCATE AN EMAIL ADDRESS FOR THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD. 
          MR. STRATIGOS, IF I COULD, UM, I, I, MADAM CHAIR, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL. 
          I KNOW THAT THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD'S BUSY, UM, BUT THEY, THEY DID, UH, PREPARE A COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSE OF WHICH I EMAILED TO THE BOARD AND I SENT TO MR. STRATIGOS. 
          I TRIED TO COPY YOU IN THE CHAT, SIR. 
          UM, BUT IF IT'S OKAY, I THINK THERE WOULD BE VALUE IN JUST, UM, GOING TO THE CONCLUSION WHICH HA RAISES, UM, FIVE VERY CONCISE POINTS, WHICH I CAN DISPLAY. 
          UM, IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WILL ZOOM IN AND, UH, IF ANY BOARD MEMBER CAN LET ME KNOW THAT THE, SO IT'S, IT'S A TWO PAGE MEMO. 
          AND IN CONCLUSION, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST RECITE THESE. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT AND F C C LICENSED AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR QUALIFIES FOR THE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION PROVIDED BY THE F C C. 
          THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO HAVE A GROUND MOUNTED TELESCOPING AND HINGED MONOPOLE THAT CAN LOWER THE ANTENNA ELEMENTS TO THE GROUND FOR SERVICE FROM A 54 FOOT HEIGHT IS A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR WHO IS UNABLE TO CLIMB LADDERS. 
          ALL FENCING REQUIRED TO SURROUND THE MONOPOLE NEEDS TO BE SITUATED ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY AND BE EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT UNLESS A VARIANCE IS OBTAINED. 
          A CONDITION SHOULD BE IMPOSED THAT ANY INTERFERENCE WITH THE NEIGHBOR'S F C C COMPLIANT CABLE, RADIO, TV, OR COMMUNICATION DEVICES NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED BY THE APPLICANT. 
          A CONDITION SHOULD BE IMPOSED THAT THE INSTALLATION MUST BE REMOVED, SHOULD THE PROPERTY NO LONGER BE OCCUPIED BY AN F C C LICENSED AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR, SINCE IT IS THE OPERATOR WHO ENJOYS THE BENEFIT OF THE FCCS REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION STANDARD. 
          AND LASTLY, A CONDITION SHOULD BE IMPOSED THAT A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER NEEDS TO CERTIFY THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE AS-BUILT INSTALLATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, UM, THE ONLY ONE THAT I NOTICED THAT, UM, 
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WAS THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE SURROUNDING THE TOWER. 
          UH, AS I MENTIONED IN MY PREVIOUS SUBMISSIONS, WE HAVE EIGHT FOOT DEER FENCING ON MY SOUTH AND EAST BORDERS. 
          AND GARRETT, YOU SAW THIS, SO I'M NOT, UM, YOU CAN CONFIRM THIS, A FOUR FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE DOWN MY NORTH BORDER OF MY BACKYARD, AND THEN, UH, A SIX FOOT, UM, PLASTIC, UH, PICKET FENCE ALONG THE EAST BORDER. 
          AND THEN FOR A SHORT DISTANCE, UH, ADDITIONAL EIGHT FOOT DEER DEER FENCING. 
          SO BASICALLY, MY YARD NOW IS FULLY FENCED. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED TO GARRETT, YOU KNOW, IF FOUR FOOT IS ADEQUATE TO PROTECT SWIMMING POOLS, AND IT SHOULD BE ADEQUATE TO PROTECT TOWERS. 
          UM, AND SO IF THAT REQUIRES A VARIANCE, I WOULD ASK THAT IT BE INCLUDED WITHIN MY, UM, SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT NO FURTHER FENCING IS NEEDED. 
          IF THAT PRESENTS A PROBLEM TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, THEN I WILL UNDERTAKE TO ERECT AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE AROUND THE TOWER. 
          THE, THE FENCING WOULD MEASURE EIGHT FEET SQUARE RIGHT AT THE BASE OF THE TOWER AND HAVE TWO DOORS SO THAT THE FORESIGHT COULD BE FULLY OPENED TO ACCOMMODATE THE ERECTION OF THE TOWER. 
          AND, UH, THAT WOULD, I'M SURE I WOULD HOPE, SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, THERE BE AN EIGHT FOOT TOWER. 
          YOU KNOW, I SHOULD MENTION ALSO THAT THE PROVISIONS OF THE TOWN CODE DEALING WITH AMATEUR RADIO STATIONS, IT DOESN'T MENTION A WORD ABOUT AN EIGHT FOOT TOWER. 
          IT IS ONLY A GENERAL PROVISION APPLICABLE TO THE, UH, ANY TOWER THAT'S PUT UP WITHIN THE TOWN THAT WOULD INCLUDE CELL PHONE TOWERS. 
          UM, I'M SURPRISED IT DOESN'T HAVE APPLICATION TO OTHER TOWERS, COMMUNICATION TOWERS. 
          UH, BUT YOU KNOW, AS A RETIRED ATTORNEY WHO PRACTICED LAW FOR 40 YEARS IN CHICAGO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU LEARN IS THAT WHEN THERE ARE PROVISIONS SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH THE SITUATION SUCH AS THOSE SET FORTH IN, AS BEING APPLICABLE TO, UH, AMATEUR RADIO STATIONS, THEN THEY CONTROL OVER MORE GENERAL PROVISIONS IN THE CODE THAT GENERALLY APPLY. 
          SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE FAILURE OF THE PROVISIONS, WHICH WOULD OTHERWISE ENUMERATE A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS, UH, FOR GRANTING A, UM, SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR AN AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR CONTROL OVER THE GENERAL LANGUAGE REQUIRING AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE. 
          UH, I THINK IF A KID WANTS TO TRY AND SKIMM ME UP THIS SIX INCH POLE, I THINK HE'S MORE LIKELY TO WANT TO JUMP INTO THE SWIMMING POOL. 
          AND QUITE FRANKLY, IF FOUR FEET IS ADEQUATE FOR THE SWIMMING POOL THAN IT SHOULD BE ADEQUATE FOR MY, UH, TOWER. 
          BUT HAVING SAID THAT, IF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS DOESN'T APPRECIATE THAT RATIONALE, THEN I WILL SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT THAT AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE BE PUT UP AROUND THE TOWER AT THE BASE. 
          UM, THE OTHER COMMENT, I S YOU KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE COMMENTS, SO I'M RECALLING FROM, UM, GARRETT'S PRESENTATION. 
          UM, THE LAST ONE WAS THAT A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER OVERSEE THE OPERATION OF THE TOWER ONCE IT'S COMPLETED. 
          AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, UH, WE HAVE A VERY CAPABLE ENGINEER, A CIVIC ENGINEER AND SURVEYOR IN HARTSDALE, UM, WHICH KIND OF MOVES US ON, I THINK, TO THE NEXT ISSUE. 
          UM, GABRIEL, HE'S S PC. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I EXPECT TO HAVE HIM COME OUT AND LOOK AT, YOU'LL REMEMBER, YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE FOUNDATION REQUIRES A REBAR CAGE. 
          IT'S GONNA BE SIX FEET TALL, THREE AND A HALF FEET ON THE SIDE. 
          I SUSPECT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, UH, 
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SOMEONE FROM MR. SENIOR'S, EXCUSE ME, ORGANIZATION, COME OUT AND INSPECT THE FOUNDATION HOLE. 
          I EXPECT WE WILL HAVE HIM INSPECT THE REBAR CAGE THAT GOES INTO THAT HOLE. 
          AND, UM, I SUSPECT THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, THE GREENBERG BUILDING INSPECTOR, MAY ALSO WANT TO VIEW IT. 
          SO THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF OPPOR OPPORTUNITIES TO INSPECT EVERY PHASE OF THIS INSTALLATION BY QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS, AND CERTAINLY WE CAN HAVE HIM BACK ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED TO CONFIRM THAT IN FACT, IT DOES OPERATE ITS SPECIFICATIONS. 
          I DON'T WANNA TAKE TOO MUCH MORE TIME. 
          UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS FOR THE, UM, THE, UM, YOU REQUESTED THAT WE HAVE A, UM, QUALIFIED SURVEYOR OR ENGINEER, UM, PREPARE A, UH, PLATT MAP SHOWING THE FALL ZONE, WELL NUMBER ONE SITE, THE TOWER, AND THEN, UH, DRAW THE FALL ZONE SO THAT WE WOULD SHOW THAT THE ENTIRE FALL ZONE IS WITHIN OUR PROPERTY LINES. 
          AND, UH, THAT WAS ATTACHED TO YOUR, TO MY SUBMISSION ON THE EIGHTH OF, OF OCTOBER. 
          SO YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THAT ATTACHED. 
          UM, THE NEXT ITEM THAT YOU REQUESTED ME TO DO WAS TO CONTACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE RADIO DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I DID, UH, CONTACT, I WAS SUCCESSFUL IN CONTACTING JOHN JACKAL IN THE, IN THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, WHO IS ALSO AN AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR, AND FULLY UNDERSTANDS THE ISSUES INVOLVED, UH, WITH INSTALLING A, UM, TOWER ANTENNA. 
          AND THEN I ALSO SPOKE WITH A MIKE GRECO IN THE RADIO DEPARTMENT, WHO HAS BEEN WITH THE, UM, UH, WITH GREENBERG FOR SOME 40 OR 45 YEARS, JUST A REAR CAREER, UH, EMPLOYEE. 
          UH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM MIKE, HE PREPARED A DOCUMENT. 
          HE PASSED IT ON TO JOHN JACKELL, WHO HE ESTIMATES TURNED IT OVER TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          OR MAYBE BEYOND THAT, I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING. 
          AT ANY RATE, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE RADIO DEPARTMENT OR THE CHIEF OF POLICE. 
          NOW, AGAIN, THE ISSUE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS WHETHER MY OPERATION COULD CAUSE INTERFERENCE TO EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, POLICE COMMUNICATIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, FIRE COMMUNICATIONS. 
          AND I THINK YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT IF THEY EVER SUSPECTED ME OF I INTERFERING WITH THEIR COMMUNICATIONS, THEY WOULD BE DOWN HERE IN NOTHING FLAT. 
          THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO I AM AND WHERE TO FIND ME. 
          AND, UH, THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE I CAN TRANSMIT FROM. 
          SO I'M SURE WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY CEASE WHATEVER I'M DOING TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEM UNTIL WE CAN RESOLVE AND STRAIGHTEN IT OUT. 
          UM, I GUESS THE SIXTH, SIXTH ISSUE INVOLVES LOWERING THE TOWER WHEN NOT IN USE. 
          AND I HAVE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS, I'VE BEEN AN AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR SINCE 1987. 
          I HAVE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS THAT THINGS TEND TO RUN IN SPURTS WITH AMATEUR RADIO OPERATIONS, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH FOREIGN COUNTRIES. 
          AND YOU CAN HAVE A VERY GOOD DAY OR A VERY GOOD WEEK WHEN YOU FREQUENTLY ARE IN CONTACT WITH, UH, THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. 
          UM, AND THEN IT MAY GO SILENT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, OR IT MAY HAVE CONTACTS THAT YOU REALLY AREN'T INTERESTED IN. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS THAT I WILL RETRACT THE TOWER AT ANY TIME, UM, AFTER 7, 2, 2 HOURS OF NINE USE. 
          THAT SHOULD BE ADEQUATE FOR MOST PURPOSES THAT I WOULD BE USING THE ANTENNA FOR. 
          SO ON THOSE TWO ISSUES, ONE, THE FENCE SURROUNDING THE TOWER TOWER, UH, AGAIN, THERE'S A SOLUTION THERE, WHICH I WILL BE WILLING TO DO. 
          I'LL INSTALL IT AT 
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THE SAME TIME I INSTALL THE FOUNDATION. 
          UH, THE SECOND ONE RETRACTING THE ANTENNA. 
          I AGREE TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER 72 HOURS OF NINE USE. 
          I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE, GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT I ENGAGE IN. 
          UM, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, UH, OR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, I'LL BE GLAD TO, UM, ADDRESS THEM. 
          UM, YOUR STATEMENT REGARDING THE SOLAR PANELS, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT IS YOUR REASON WHY YOU CANNOT PUT IT ON THE HOUSE, BUT YOU, YOU CHOSE TO PUT THOSE PANELS ON THE HOUSE FOR YOUR BENEFIT, CORRECT? THAT WAS IN MAY OF 2018? YES. 
          AND I DOUBT THAT ANYONE WOULD DISAGREE. 
          THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          POTENTIALLY, SINCE IT PAYS OUR ELECTRIC BILLS FOR 10 OUT OF THE 12 MONTHS. 
          WELL, IT CERTAINLY BENEFITS YOU. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT IT BENEFITS ANYONE ELSE IN THE TOWN. 
          . 
          WELL, I SUPPOSE IT BENEFITS US ALL IN THAT WE ARE BEGINNING, JUST LIKE THE PRIOR SPEAKER SAID, WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WARMING CLIMATE AND PUTTING THE ENERGY, THE SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF, IS TO ALL OF OUR BENEFIT IN THAT IT REDUCES THE DRAIN ON THE ELECTRIC GRID. 
          YOU KNOW, TAMMY MENTIONED ANOTHER FACT. 
          WE ARE AS ENERGY CONSCIOUS AS WE CAN BE. 
          WE DO NOT DRY OUR CLOTHES IN THE DRY CLEAN AND IN THE DRY THE GAS DRYER WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HANG THEM OUTSIDE IN THE SUNSHINE. 
          THAT ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO MINIMIZING OUR FOOTPRINT WITH RESPECT TO WARMING CLIMATE. 
          WE ALSO DRIVE A HYBRID CAR THAT GETS UPWARDS OF 40 MILES TO THE GALLON, JUST AROUND TOWN, AND ON ANY KIND OF A TRIP RUNS 50 MILES. 
          SO I TAKE NO REGRET IN HAVING INSTALLED SOLAR PANELS. 
          I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD MOVE. 
          I WISH EVERYONE WOULD INSTALL SOLAR PANELS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M, I'M NOT ARGUING AGAINST YOUR SOLAR PANELS. 
          I'M ARGUING AGAINST THE FACT THAT THE CODE STATES THAT IT COULD GO ON, IT SHOULD GO ON THE ROOF. 
          AND YOUR POSITION IS THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE PANELS, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 
          SO WE JUST DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT WHETHER OR NOT YOU NEED A VARIANCE FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          WELL, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE TOWER I HAVE COULD NOT POSSIBLY GO ON MY ROOF. 
          IT WEIGHS UPWARDS OF 800 POUNDS WHEN IT IS FULLY INSTALLED. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, , IF THE TOWER COULD BE MOUNTED ON THE, THE ROOF, I WOULD HAVE TO CLIMB TO THE ROOF TO, TO TILT IT DOWN. 
          IT WOULD DE DEFEAT THE PURPOSE, QUITE FRANKLY, OF HAVING A TILT OVER TOWER. 
          THIS IS A TOWER, ONCE IT'S BEEN RAISED, IS FIRMLY HELD IN PLACE WITH THOSE COUPLE OF DISCS I BROUGHT TO THE LAST MEETING AND DEMONSTRATED NOW, YOU KNOW, TO TILT THE TOWER OVER TO GET IT DOWN, TO GET THE ANTENNA DOWN, YOU HAVE TO TIP IT. 
          AND YOU CAN ONLY DO THAT FROM THE GROUND LEVEL. 
          IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO TIP THE TOWER IF THE TOWER WAS INSTALLED ON THE ROOF. 
          I MEAN, IT JUST, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO TRY TO DO THAT. 
          UM, MAY I JUST INTERJECT, AT LEAST NOW, YOU'VE GIVEN US A REASON OTHER THAN YOU SAID YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU WERE CONCERNED WITH WHATEVER, UM, RISK IT MAY POSE TO YOUR SOLAR PANEL. 
          SO YOU WERE FOCUSED ON THAT. 
          NOW YOU'VE TELL, NOW YOU'VE TOLD US THAT THE, THE TOWER MAY BE TOO HEAVY FOR THE ROOF. 
          WELL, YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, I, GO AHEAD. 
          I THOUGHT THAT THE EXPLANATION OF THIS SOLAR PANELS, I COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THE LONGER EXPLANATION, UH, IN MY, UH, COVER LETTER, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS SUCH AN OBVIOUS ANSWER TO WHY I COULDN'T PUT SOMETHING ELSE ON THE ROOF. 
          UH, IT WAS BEYOND QUESTION, WELL, PUT IT THIS WAY, IT'S IN OUR CODE THAT IF THAT'S THE PREFERABLE OR THE MORE SUITABLE LOCATION. 
          UM, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD SUGGESTED DEFENSE, WHICH I'M HAPPY THAT YOU WILL, UM, ACCEPT, YOU KNOW, IF NECESSARY, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE IT FREESTANDING, HEY, 
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UH, KIDS, UM, WILL SEE A NUISANCE AS YOU KNOW, AND KIDS ARE KIDS, , YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PREDICT SOMETIMES WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO. 
          NUISANCE WHAT? I'M SORRY. 
          IT'S CALLED AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND THAT'S WHY ALL THE HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE POOLS HAVE FOUR FOOT FENCES AROUND THEIR POOLS BECAUSE THEIR POOLS ARE ATTRACTIVE NUISANCES. 
          UM, YES. 
          BUT IT MAKES THEY CLIMB THE POLE. 
          IF THEY CLIMB THE POLE, YEAH. 
          THEY CAN DROWN IN THE POOL. 
          THEY CAN TRY TO CLIMB THE POLE AND DROP OFF ALSO. 
          AND, AND, RIGHT. 
          THERE'S, THEY FALL OUT OF A TREE. 
          YES. 
          I MEAN, IT'S LIKELY THAT THEY'RE GONNA CLIMB A TREE AND FALL OUT OF THAT TREE, THEN THEY'RE GONNA SHIMMY UP MY POLE. 
          BESIDES, I'VE ALREADY SAID I'M GOING TO PUT AN EIGHT FOOT YES, NO, I'M RIGHT. 
          I, I'M SAYING, I'M GLAD YOU DID THAT. 
          SO AT LEAST, UM, THAT COVERED THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S WHERE, ACCORDING TO OUR CODE, THE MORE SUITABLE LOCATION IS ON THE ROOF. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVE A TOWER THAT'S GOING TO BE TOO HEAVY, THEN YES, WE HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE LOCATION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING WITH THE POLE, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN'T GET AN ANTENNA THAT IS NOT AS HEAVY OR IT WON'T SUIT YOUR PURPOSE. 
          IF YOU GET SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T BE AS HEAVY ON YOUR ROOF, WOULD THAT DEFEAT WHATEVER YOU'RE TRYING TO DO OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR AMATEUR, UM, RADIO STATION? WELL, NUMBER ONE, I ALREADY HAVE THE TOWER. 
          OKAY. 
          I ALREADY HAVE THE ANTENNA. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER TWO, THE PROVISIONS OF THE AMATEUR RADIO, UH, PROVISIONS OF THE, UM, TOWN CODE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE ON THE ROOF, THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT ABUT THE HOUSE WERE ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD. 
          THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD IN THEIR MOST RECENT COMMUNICATION, AGREED WITH THEIR ATTORNEY WHO SAID, REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION SHOULD BE MADE AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T POSE OF A LEGITIMATE THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GEN GENERAL WELFARE, OR TO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE RESIDENTS. 
          THAT'S THE CRITERIA THEY ARE NOW ARE ARTICULATING. 
          AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , AND THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PUTTING AN ANTENNA ON THE ROOF OR ABUTTING THE HOUSE OR ANY OF THE OTHER PROVISIONS CONTAINED IN THAT, UH, SECOND AND THIRD PARAGRAPH OF THE, UM, CODE DEALING WITH ANTENNA, UH, AMATEUR RADIO STATIONS, EXCUSE ME. 
          ONE, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          NO, NOTHING MORE. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU DID HEAR WHAT THE, UH, RESPONSE WAS FROM THE, UH, REVIEW BOARD, BUT THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT I THINK THEY MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, SOMEONE TO PROVIDE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S AN ISSUE OF RECEPTION THAT COULD RESULT FROM YOU PUTTING THE ANTENNA UP. 
          AM I NOT CORRECT AGAIN? AND THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET, HAS IT? YES. 
          OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          , ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, YOU CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH AUSTRALIA WITH SIMPLE WIRED ANTENNAS, PERIOD. 
          THE ANTENNA I HAVE IS THREE ELEMENT BEAM ANTENNA. 
          IT'S CALLED A YAGI ANTENNA. 
          WHAT THAT ANTENNA DOES IS IT NARROWS, IT NARROWS THE WIDTH OF THE TRANSMITTED, UH, SIGNAL IN THE SPECIFIC DIRECTION IT IS AIMED. 
          SO IF I WANTED TO TALK TO SOMEONE IN AUSTRALIA, FOR INSTANCE, I WOULD POINT THAT THREE ELEMENT ANTENNA OVER MY ROOFTOP AT 45 FEET ON 20 METERS, AND I WOULD TELL, AND I WOULD TRY AND LOCATE AN AUSTRALIAN STATION. 
          I HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE, BUT YOU NEED A DIRECTIONAL ANTENNA, ONE THAT SHOOTS THE RADIO SIGNAL IN A SPECIFIC AREA. 
          AND, UH, IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT KIND OF AN ANTENNA, YOU CANNOT EVEN HEAR AUSTRALIA. 
          HMM. 
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ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          UM, ARE YOU CURRENTLY BROADCASTING FROM YOUR HOME NOW? UM, JUST LOCALLY. 
          JUST LOCALLY. 
          JUST LOCALLY. 
          UM, AND YOU ARE NOT GETTING ANY, UM, COMPLAINTS OF INTERFERENCE FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS REGARDING, UH, YOUR VOICE COMING THROUGH THEIR TELEVISION OR THEIR RADIOS OR THEIR TELEPHONES? YEAH, IT USED TO BE THE CASE. 
          IT USED TO BE THE CASE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN TV SIGNALS, WHEN TV SIGNAL, THE AIR, THE AIR, I THINK WE'RE AROUND, I THINK WE'RE AROUND, GOT AN ECHO, GOT AN ECHO. 
          UM, BUT SINCE EVERYONE NOW DOES, UM, THEIR COM, THEIR TV AND PHONE AND INTERNET, UH, OVER CABLE, UH, THOSE ISSUES HAVE TOTALLY RES RESOLVED THEMSELVES. 
          UH, IN ADDITION, IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE TELEPHONE, I HAVE FILTERS YOU CAN PUT ON YOUR TELEPHONE TO PREVENT THAT SORT OF INTERFERENCE. 
          UH, IT'S SOMETHING I'VE USED IN THE PAST WITH OTHER NEIGHBORS AND, UH, CERTAINLY COULD OPT USE AGAIN. 
          BUT WITH RESPECT TO TV AND INTERNET, I DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE ANY PROBLEM AT ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY? MR. BODEN? UM, THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF REGULATIONS THAT WERE WRITTEN FOR A DIFFERENT ERA THAT NEED TO BE APPLIED TO THE CURRENT ERA. 
          UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BUILDING CODES THAT WERE WRITTEN FOR A ENVIRONMENT THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO APPLY ISSUES CREATED BY GLOBAL WARMING TO THE PLACE. 
          THINGS LIKE THE PLACEMENT OF THE ANTENNA AND SO ON. 
          UM, I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO RELATE TO GLOBAL WARMING AND HOW IT AFFECTS ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR 50 YEARS THAT NOW HAVE TO BE DONE DIFFERENTLY. 
          THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CODE, WHICH WAS WRITTEN FOR A DIFFERENT ERROR, AND UNDERSTAND HOW IT HAS TO BE APPLIED TO THIS ERROR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF I MAY RESPOND, I WOULD TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN, AND BASED ON MY BRIEF EXPLORATION THROUGH THE GREENBERG TOWN CODE, UH, I THINK IT REALLY NEEDS A GOOD HOUSE CLEANING. 
          THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYONE? ANY SOURCE? ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL MOVE, MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER 21, 27, NICHOLAS AND JOSIE PROPERTY AT 23 SPRINGWOOD AVENUE, MARLEY. 
          I'M GONNA STICK NOW AND SEE WHAT THEY, UH, MY NAME IS ERIC DAVENPORT. 
          I'M THE ARCHITECT WORKING WITH, UH, NICK AND JOSIE ON 23 SPRINGWOOD. 
          AND, UM, THIS, THIS IS OUR SECOND APPEARANCE IN FRONT OF THE Z B A FROM, WE HAD, UH, SOME, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION FOR THE PROJECT, AND ALSO SOME REASONINGS FOR THE PROJECT FROM . 
          YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE VARIANCES. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN TO THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, AND HAVE, UH, SINCE RECEIVED THEIR, UM, UH, POSITIVE  FOR THE PROJECT. 
          AND BECAUSE WE'VE PRESENTED BEFORE TO THE Z B A AND, UH, NOT ALL MEMBERS WERE PRESENT. 
          I'M WONDERING, UM, FROM THE CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO, WOULD YOU LIKE NICK AND JOSIE TO PRESENT AGAIN, THEIR PERSONAL REASONABLE, REQUESTING THE VARIANCE TO THE BOARD MEMBERS, 
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OR SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD TO ANSWER OR I GUESS, PRESENT OUR ANSWERS AND RESPONSES TO THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PLANNING BOARD? ALL RIGHT. 
          WHATEVER WAS PUT IN THE RECORD PREVIOUSLY HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE MEMBERS WHO WERE NOT PRESENT AT THE TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU CAN CERTAINLY PROCEED WITH YOUR RESPONSES. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, I'M GONNA SHARE, I'M GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN AND GO THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT HOLDS THOSE RESPONSES. 
          BEAR WITH ME A MOMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU ALL SEE THE, THE PRESENTATION MATERIAL? YES, WE CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BEFORE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE REASONING FOR, UM, REQUESTING A GARAGE AND ITS VARIANCES ON THE FRONT ENTRYWAY TO MAKE THE HOUSE SAFER, WERE DISCUSSED. 
          UM, SOME OF THE REASONING THAT THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, WAS CONCERNED ABOUT GARAGE LOCATION UP AGAINST THE STREET AND ALSO, UM, REQUESTED US EXPLORE AN ALTERNATE LOCATION FOR BACK, UM, WAS, YOU KNOW, LED LED TO AN EXPLANATION FROM, UH, THE OWNERS. 
          NICK. 
          NICK DID A GREAT JOB OF KIND OF DOCUMENTING THEIR CURRENT STREET LOCATION. 
          AND I KNOW, I KNOW NICK AND JOSIE ARE AT THE MEETING, AND I WASN'T SURE, NICK, IF YOU CAN HEAR US, IF YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT YOUR FINDINGS HERE AND PRESENT THIS TO THE Z B A. 
          UM, IF NOT, I CAN GO THROUGH NO, THAT'S FINE. 
          SOME OF THE MATERIAL. 
          HELLO EVERYBODY. 
          UH, THIS IS NICHOLAS PIUS, 23 SPRINGWOOD AVENUE. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, WE WERE THERE IN PERSON GIVING A, UH, A PRESENTATION, AND I KIND OF GAVE A, A HAND DRAW ON SKETCH. 
          AND, UM, I TRIED, YOU KNOW, I WAS A LITTLE EMBARRASSED BY IT, SO I DID THIS COMPUTER GRAPHIC, WHICH YOU SEE RIGHT HERE. 
          NOW IT'S ON YOUR SCREEN. 
          AND, UM, I MADE ALL THESE ME MEASUREMENTS OF THE STREET. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE, ERIC, CAN YOU PUT YOUR CURSOR ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT OF THE STREET WHERE IT SAYS, I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO ZOOM IN ON IT FOR SOME REASON, THE CURSE, OR I WASN'T GONNA SHOW UP ON THAT FOR THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S FINE. 
          UM, WHERE'S SAYS LEY VILLAGE ALL THE WAY? TOP LEFT, UM, TOWN OF SPRING, UH, SPRINGWOOD AVENUE, UH, BEGINS AS ARLEY LEY VILLAGE, UH, SPRINGWOOD AVENUE. 
          AND THEN IT GOES INTO, UM, THIS NARROW PART OF THE STREET, WHICH IS THE ENTRANCE OF TOWN OF GREENBURG, UM, SPRINGWOOD AVENUE. 
          I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ALL, BOTH TOWN OF GREENBURG, I MEAN, THIS IS TECHNICALLY WHERE THE TOWN OF GREENBURG KIND OF STARTS, RIGHT? SO AT THAT PARTICULAR BOTTLENECK RIGHT THERE IS AT 13 FEET, UH, 13 FEET, EIGHT INCHES WIDE. 
          THE STREET WIDENS UP A LITTLE BIT, THE 18 FEET AND A HALF FEET TO ABOUT 20 FEET. 
          AND THEN WHERE THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO HOUSES YET, THERE'S JUST WOODS. 
          THERE'S A PROPOSED SUBDIVISION, BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. 
          UM, AS YOU GET TO THE TOP OF THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE A 21 SW, THAT'S 21 SPRINGWOOD. 
          UM, THE STREET OPENS UP, AND THE REASON WHY IT OPENS UP IS BECAUSE THESE HOUSES DO NOT HAVE ANY PARKING ANYWHERE. 
          THIS IS ON STREET PARKING. 
          AND SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY REDUCED THE FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTIES TO MAKE SPACE FOR THE CARS THERE, AND THEY REDUCED IT BY SIX AND A HALF FEET. 
          SO AS WE'RE LOOKING, UH, TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE GRAPH, UH, YOU'LL SEE I PUT A LITTLE BOX THERE, IT SAYS, CARS. 
          THAT'S WHERE THE CAR IS PARKED. 
          NOW, THE REDUCED FRONT PROPERTY AROUND SIX AND A HALF FEET FITS THE CARS, GOING ALL THE WAY PAST MY PROPERTY TO 25 SPRINGWOOD AVENUE. 
          AT 25 SPRINGWOOD AVENUE. 
          THEY HAVE THIS DRIVEWAY AND THE DRIVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENED, BUT THEY HAVE A DRIVEWAY AND IT KIND OF GOES LIKE, UM, LIKE 11 FEET, 12 FEET INTO LIKE THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. 
          UM, SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THINGS GET A LITTLE LIKE DIFFERENT, BUT RIGHT BEFORE THERE, AND, AND MY PROPERTY AND, AND THE EDGE OF 25, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF THE STREET AT 33 FEET WIDE. 
          NOW THAT'S WIDER THAN ANY PLACE ON SPRINGWOOD AVENUE. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S A HUGE SPACE. 
          YOU COULD PUT TWO TRACTOR TRAILERS AND A COUPLE OF CARS THERE, AND YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE STILL, UM, REGARDLESS, UM, WHERE THE FUCHSIA COLORED 35.5 FEET IS, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A DOTTED LINE THERE. 
          AND THAT'S THE PROPOSED GARAGE, UM, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD. 
          UM, WE HAVE IT TWO AND A HALF FEET BACK FROM THE RETAINING WALL THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, WHICH IS SOLID BLACK LINE. 
          UM, YEAH, ACTUALLY, THIS IS MY OLD SKETCH, BUT EITHER WAY, IT, IT WORKS. 
          UM, THE, UH, ORIGINALLY WE HAD THIS AT ZERO FOOT DISTANCE FROM THE RETAINING WALL, WHICH IS THAT BLACK LINE. 
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SO INSTEAD OF TWO AND A HALF FEET, THAT WAS ZERO. 
          BUT AFTER A MEETING WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND GIVEN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, WE MOVED OUR PROPOSAL BACK AN ADDITIONAL TWO AND A HALF FEET. 
          UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE DOTTED LINE, WHICH IS SIX AND A HALF FEET FROM THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THAT REDUCED FRONT PROPERTY SIZE, THE GARAGE IS REALLY, UH, ABOUT NINE FEET OFF OF WHERE THE PROPERTY USED TO BE BEFORE THEY REDUCED IT TO MAKE ON STREET PARKING. 
          DOES I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT CLEAR THE WAY I, I PRESENTED THAT, OR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW? NO, I UNDERSTAND IT NOW. 
          I WASN'T UNDERSTANDING IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT BEFORE, BUT YES, NOW IT EXPLAINS WHAT THOSE DIMENSIONS MEAN. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THE GARAGE IS, IS IS THE MAIN SOURCE OF ALL THESE VARIANCES THAT WE'RE REQUESTING. 
          UM, ALL THE NEIGHBORS, UM, THAT, THAT ARE THE WHOLE BLOCK OF TOWN OF GREENBURG ON SPRINGWOOD, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, THE WHOLE SPRINGWOOD AVENUE TOWN OF GREENBURG SIDE. 
          EVERY SINGLE HOUSE SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT. 
          I'VE GONE OVER IT WITH THEM, I'VE EXPLAINED WITH DETAILS, I BROUGHT 'EM TO MY PROPERTY, I'VE INVITED THEM OVER. 
          I SHOWED MY BLUEPRINTS, UM, THAT WE HAVE SO FAR, AND THEY ALL UNDERSTAND IT VERY CLEARLY. 
          AND THEY ALL WROTE LETTERS OF SUPPORT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW, UM, WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR, UM, I GUESS AN ENTRANCE WAY AS WELL AS PART OF THE VARIANCE. 
          UM, BECAUSE, UH, I GUESS A MINIMUM SIZE ENTRANCE WAY, WHICH IS RECOMMENDED BY THE ARCHITECT GOES LIKE, YOU KNOW, A FOOT INTO THE, THE VARIANCE TERRITORY. 
          I GUESS YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, BUT WE WORKED WITH, THEY HAVE ALL THAT ON RECORD. 
          YES. 
          MY, I'M SORRY. 
          MY WIFE WAS, UM, TUCKING OUR DAUGHTER IN WHO WAS GIVING US A HARD TIME. 
          'CAUSE IT'S OUR BEDTIME RIGHT NOW, WHICH WAS INTERESTING. 
          UM, THAT WAS FUN. 
          ANYWAY, SO, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GARAGE, UM, FROM THE, THE PRO THE PROPOSED ENTRANCEWAY OF THE GARAGE IS, UH, 31 AND A HALF FEET FOR THE WIDTH OF THE STREET. 
          AT THE END OF THE GARAGE, IT'S 35 AND A HALF FEET. 
          SO IF YOU'RE PULLING OUTTA THE GARAGE, IF YOU DROVE STRAIGHT TO ACROSS THE STREET, YOU HAVE THOSE DISTANCES THERE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE LINES REPRESENT. 
          UM, THESE, UM, CALCULATIONS, THESE MEASUREMENTS WERE VERIFIED BY THE BOARD, THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, WHICH, UM, CAME TO VISIT. 
          I DREW CHALK LINES ON THE STREET. 
          I, UM, ALL THESE LINES THAT YOU SEE THERE, I, I ACTUALLY DREW CHALK LINES FOR THEM. 
          I SHOWED THEM WHERE THE GARAGE WOULD BE, UM, PHYSICALLY THERE. 
          THEY WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF IT. 
          AND I BELIEVE, UM, AFTER THAT MEETING, WE HAD THE, THE MOST SPEEDY APPROVAL AND WE HAD FULL, FULL APPROVAL OF OUR, OUR PLAN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO YOU. 
          SO I'M PRETTY PROUD, PROUD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT. 
          UM, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS ERIC COULD KIND OF TAKE IT OVER. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR. 
          UH, I DON'T SEE WHERE YOUR, UH, FRONT ENTRANCE WORK IS PART OF THIS, UM, IS PART OF THIS CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I THINK, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, TALKING A PERCENTAGE WISE OF LIKE 1% THAT IT KIND OF GOES INTO THE TERRITORY OF VARIANCE. 
          UM, IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT. 
          I THINK, UM, UH, LEMME SEE WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. 
          UM, THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY BEFORE IT WAS REDUCED FROM, FROM THE ON STREETT PARKING, THAT IT'S NOT EVEN AN ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S AN ADDITIONAL SIX AND A HALF FEET. 
          BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE STREET IS NOW, IF YOU MEASURE BACK THAT IT'S LIKE INCHES INTO THE VARIOUS TERRITORY. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WHY, DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? I, I GUESS SO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALSO, ALSO WE CAN REINTEREST IT. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          SURE. 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO, UM, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, DOES THIS, UM, UH, I GUESS STOP INGRESS AND EGRESS OF THE STREET? UM, WE HAD RESPONSES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND EVERYONE WHO DEALS WITH HIGHWAYS, AND THEY RESPONDED TO, UH, CAROL WALKER'S, UH, EMAIL, WHICH WE ALSO HAVE TO PRESENT TO SAY THAT IT'S, IT'S A PERFECTLY FINE SITUATION THAT IT DOES HELP OUT THE STREET MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH IT, UH, WHATSOEVER. 
          UM, THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT WHY DID WE WANT A ONE CAR GARAGE VERSUS A TWO CAR GARAGE. 
          UM, THE CURRENT TOWN CODE, UH, STIPULATES THAT ANY, YOU KNOW, NEW BUILDING OF GARAGES MUST BE A TWO CAR GARAGE. 
          SO THAT'S ONE REASON. 
          ANOTHER REASON IS WE HAVE TWO CARS, UH, ONE'S AN S U V, ONE'S A HYBRID, UM, AND 
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A SCOOTER MOTOR SCOOTER, UH, A CANOE PLAN TO GET TWO KAYAKS. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL BICYCLES THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF NEED TO BE STORED IN THERE TOO, AS WELL AS ALL SORTS OF TOOLS AND STUFF. 
          SO THE TWO CAR GARAGE IS REALLY THE MINIMUM WHAT WE NEED. 
          UH, I THINK, WAS THERE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED? UM, COULD WE MOVE THE GARAGE FURTHER BACK? UH, ERIC HAS A, A DIAGRAM AS TO WHY WE COULDN'T DO THAT. 
          AND THE PLANNING BOARD AGREES THAT WE REALLY CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT DISTURBING TOO MUCH STEEP, STEEP SLOPES. 
          AND THIS WAS THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY WAY THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THIS PROJECT. 
          AND THAT WAS OUR GOAL INITIALLY, UH, FROM THE START TO BUILD WHAT WE NEED AS A NECESSITY, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR HOUSE, AND HAVE AS LEAST AMOUNT OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AS POSSIBLE. 
          BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M A TREE GUY, I WANNA SAVE EVERYTHING, AND I DON'T WANT TO DISTURB MUCH OF ANYTHING AT ALL IF I, IF I COULD HELP IT. 
          SO, AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT. 
          AND THEN I GUESS ERIC COULD TAKE OVER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH SOME OF THE, UM, THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AND SOME OF THE RESPONSES. 
          THE, THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, URGED US TO TALK ABOUT A FEW ITEMS THAT WOULD COME UP AS CONCERNS FOR BOTH THE DESIGN SIDE AND THE OWNERS. 
          IF WE WERE TO PUSH THE GARAGE BACK TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, UM, THAT IF THE, IF THE GARAGE IS PUSHED FURTHER BACK, THERE WOULD BE RESULTING STEEP STAIR RUNS, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID FROM THE STREET TO THE FRONT ENTRY OF THE HOUSE. 
          UM, IT BLOCKS AN ENTRY WAY ON THE OUTSIDE, UM, TO THE REAR YARD. 
          THE WAY THAT THE DECK AND THE GARAGE, UM, STRUCTURES WOULD LAND, WOULD NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE FRONT YARD FROM THE BACKYARD FROM THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, GUESTS, CHILDREN, LARGE ITEM DELIVERY, ET CETERA, WOULD HAVE A VERY TOUGH DIME ACCESSING THE REAR BY GOING UP THE STEEP SLOPE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE, OF THE YARD. 
          UM, WE ALSO DID SOME CALCULATIONS TO COMPARE THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL THAT WOULD BE REMOVED BY PUSHING THE GARAGE BACK AS OPPOSED TO THE, UM, UH, PROPOSED LOCATION FURTHER TOWARDS THE ROAD. 
          AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, UM, DIAGRAM IN A MOMENT. 
          UM, IT'LL ALSO REQUIRE LARGER AND DEEPER RETAINING WALLS, NOT ONLY FOR THE GARAGE, BUT THE DRIVEWAY THAT WOULD RUN TO THE STREET. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE ASPHALT AND CONCRETE ON SITE NEEDED TO HOLD BACK THE EARTH BECAUSE OF THE STEEP SLOPE LOCATIONS. 
          UM, THE LARGER STORM, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 
          AND ALSO THAT THE NEIGHBORS DID NOT LIKE THAT PLAN AT ALL AS WELL. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          THERE WAS SOME PRETTY HEFTY RESISTANCE TO, TO THAT AMOUNT OF BASICALLY CON CONCRETE SHOWING UP IN THEIR, IN THEIR VIEWS AND KIND OF THEIR EXPERIENCE OF THE SITE. 
          UM, THE STORM WATER SYSTEMS WOULD NEED TO BE INCREASED FOR THAT AMOUNT OF RUNOFF AND INFILTRATION FOR THE ADDED DRIVEWAY. 
          THERE WOULD BE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION FURTHER BACK, THERE WOULD BE A LARGER AMOUNT OF STORMWATER RUNOFF TO, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH BECAUSE OF THEIR PROXIMITY. 
          AND, UM, NICK AND JOSIE ALSO GOT SOME QUOTES FOR THE ALTERNATE LOCATION AND THE GARAGE STRUCTURE, UM, IN THEIR CURRENT LOCATION WAS ABOUT A THIRD OF THE COST AS IF YOU WERE TO PUSH IT, UH, BACK. 
          SO THERE WAS ABOUT A, UM, A $50,000 COST FOR THE GARAGE STRUCTURE ITSELF CLOSER TO THE STREET AS OPPOSED TO 150 DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE NEEDED FOR, UM, THE ALTERNATE LOCATION FURTHER BACK AWAY FROM THE STREET. 
          AND THERE WAS ALSO, UH, AN EXISTING DECK OFF THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          AND THERE'S, UM, SOME STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY ISSUES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH AND COMPLEXITIES WHEN THE TWO GOT, UH, CLOSER TOGETHER OR ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER. 
          UM, THE PLAN BOARD DID ALSO URGE US TO FIND, AND AS NICK SAID, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME DOCUMENTATION FROM THE FIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAD ANY CONCERNS THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS 'EM AND THEY HAD NO CONCERNS. 
          AND LIKE NICK SAID TO, YOU KNOW, IT GETTING, GETTING THEIR PARKED VEHICLES OFF THE STREET WOULD ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE STREET SITUATION AND SAFETY OF THE, OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, WE HAD RECEIVED ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT WERE VERY SPECIFIC IN, IN NATURE, UM, WHICH WE JUST ADDRESSED GENERALLY AT FIRST. 
          AND THEN, UM, MORE SPECIFIC, UM, CALCULATIONS WERE DONE FOR THE CUBIC YARD, UM, RETAINAGE. 
          SO THERE WAS, UH, SOME OF THE DIAGRAMS THAT WE DID TO SHOW HOW, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED PORTION OF THE GARAGE 
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TOWARDS THE STREET WOULD REMOVE APPROXIMATELY 39 CUBIC YARDS AS OPPOSED TO 118 CUBIC YARDS IF WE WERE TO PUSH IT BACK, UM, TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          AND, UH, THEY ASKED ABOUT THE, THE STORM WATER SYSTEMS AND HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE THERE WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE, UM, THE PROPOSED SYSTEMS FOR THE CURRENT DESIGN. 
          UM, THEY WOULD NEED TO INCREASE TO ACCOMMODATE AN ADDITIONAL 480 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERMEABLE SURFACE ON THE SITE FROM THE DRIVEWAY, UM, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL AREA FOR A DIFFERENT STEP CONFIGURATION FROM THE DRIVEWAY UP TO THE HOUSE, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE DIFFERENT DRAINAGE STRATEGIES FOR THE ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE WALLS. 
          AND THE ALTERNATE LOCATION WOULD ALSO IMPACT THE EXISTING DRY WELL, WHICH IS NEXT TO THEIR HOUSE. 
          SO, UM, THE MAIN HOUSE HAS A DRY WELL UNDERNEATH THIS EXISTING DECK TO THE RIGHT, WHICH MITIGATES ALL OF THE STORM WATER FROM THE REAR INSIDE OF THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND IF WE WERE TO MOVE THE DECK OR, YOU KNOW, REMOVE THAT CISTERN UNDERNEATH THE DECK WITH THE GARAGE PUSHED BACK, UM, UH, AN ENTIRELY NEW STORMWATER SYSTEM WOULD BE NEEDED IN AN ALTERNATE LOCATION FOR THE, THE REAR, UM, PART OF THE PROPERTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          ERIC, IF I COULD HOP IN THERE JUST FOR A SECOND? SURE. 
          UM, UH, EVEN WITH THE LAST, UH, HURRICANE THAT WE HAD JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO WHERE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF DOWNTOWN LEY, YOU KNOW, UH, FLOODED AND LIKE THE SAWMILL WAS UNDERWATER AT SOME PARTS AND MACY'S PARK WAS UNDER SIX FEET OF WATER. 
          AND, AND TRAGICALLY THERE WAS DEATHS THERE. 
          UM, WITH ALL THAT WATER, UM, OUR STREET, OUR, I MEAN OUR STREET AND MY HOUSE FILTERED THE WATER VERY WELL, AND, UM, VERY LITTLE STREET WATER RUNOFF, IF ANY, YOU KNOW, WAS PRESENT. 
          SO THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS, IS VERY GOOD. 
          SO WE REALLY DIDN'T WANNA MESS WITH THAT, SO WE WANTED TO LEAVE THAT AS IS. 
          SO, AND THAT'S ALSO PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED PLAN THAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS WORKING WELL. 
          WE CARE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORS, WE CARE ABOUT OUR DOWNHILL NEIGHBORS, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLAN IS THE VERY BEST THAT WE COULD PRESENT AS WELL. 
          UM, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE BOARD WAS DISCUSSING WAS THE REMOVAL OF VEGETATION AND TREES. 
          THERE'S, UM, ONE TREE SLATED TO BE REMOVED IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED LOCATION HERE ON THE BACK WALL. 
          UM, NICK AND JOSIE HAVE PLANTED TREES IN THE REAR ALREADY, UM, TO HELP MITIGATE THAT LOSS. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE MOVING IT BACK FURTHER ON THE SITE WOULD, WOULD INVOLVE MORE VEGETATION RE REMOVAL THAT'S ALONG THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, RIGHT. 
          ALSO 750 SQUARE FEET OF GRASS THAT IS NEWLY PLANTED THAT WASN'T THERE DURING THE PLAN ON BOARD MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN FOR THE RECORD, I DO WANNA SAY THE, UM, RIGHT NOW WE ARE PLANNING, UH, TWO FOOT FOUR DIMENSION FROM THE PROPERTY LINE BACK. 
          UM, THE DIAGRAM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER DOES HAVE TWO AND A HALF FEET, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO REQUEST A TWO FOOT FOUR MEASUREMENT FROM THE FRONT YARD PROPERTY LINE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH CLEARANCE FOR THE STAIR FROM THE, THE FRONT AREA OF THE YARD TO THE REAR AREA YARD FOR THAT BUILD. 
          SO THAT THREE FOOT EIGHT DIMENSION IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO HAVE A SAFE, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATELY WIDE STAIRWAY AND STRUCTURE AND HANDRAILS AND EVERYTHING TO, UM, ALLOW PEOPLE TO PASS FROM, FROM FRONT TO BACK. 
          UM, I KNOW NICK AND JOSIE HAVE, HAVE PROVIDED PRECEDENT PICTURES FOR OTHER SIMILAR CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY'VE, UM, DOCUMENTED HERE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT HAVE GARAGES CLOSE TO THE STREET. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THEM AND WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, MIMIC LANDSCAPE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND INTEGRATE THE DESIGN INTO THE LANDSCAPE AND TERRACES AND STEPS SO THAT THE GARAGE ESSENTIALLY BECOMES PART OF THE LANDSCAPE AS OPPOSED TO LIKE YOUR, YOUR TYPICAL GARAGE DESIGN. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF LANDSCAPING THAT WILL, WILL DEFINITELY HELP A LOT OF THAT, UH, AESTHETIC DIRECTION ALREADY PLANNED FOR THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. 
          UM, SO I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'VE, I'VE READ THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION AND, UM, I THINK ALL OF THE RATIONALE BEHIND, UH, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DO MAKES, UM, QUITE A BIT OF SENSE. 
          UM, BUT I'M, I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT SHOWS WHAT THE GARAGE WOULD 
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LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, IF YOU SCROLL BACK DOWN, YOU'VE SHOWN THREE EXAMPLES OF CLOSE TO THE STREET, UH, GARAGES. 
          UM, IS THE ONE YOU'RE PROPOSING MORE LIKE THE ONE ON ASHFORD AVENUE OR MORE LIKE THE ONES ON EUCLID AVENUE? YEAH, I DON'T, THIS GARAGE WOULDN'T HAVE A GABLE GABLE ROOF LIKE THIS. 
          IT WOULD BE KIND OF A, A FLAT SLIGHTLY SCOPING ROOF AND START TO ALIGN WITH THE, THE, THE STEP AND RETAINING WALLS GOING UP TO THE HOUSE SO THAT IT DID READ LIKE PART OF THE LANDSCAPE ON THE LEFT. 
          YEAH, I, I WOULD SAY LIKE THE FRONTAL, THE FRONT PART OF THE GARAGE WOULD BE CLOSE TO THE ONE THAT YOU SEE ON ASHFORD AVENUE, THE WHITE ONE JUST ABOVE, IF YOU SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT, UH, ERIC . 
          OH, I SEE, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, ON THE, UH, RIGHT S AS YOU SEE, UM, LIKE IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT PICTURE THERE, YOU SEE THE CAR RIGHT THERE AND YOU SEE THE, THE, THE ACTUAL, UH, GRADE OF, OF GRASS AND DIRT AND, AND ROCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THE GARAGE ON THAT SIDE WILL BE BUILT INTO THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY YOU REALLY WON'T BE SEEING THE GARAGE TOO MUCH FROM THAT SIDE, UM, BECAUSE IT'LL BE BUILT, BUILT INTO THE EARTH AND THEN IT WILL BE SHRUBBERY AND, AND THAT I'VE CORDED SHRUBBERY THAT I'VE COORDINATED WITH MY NEIGHBOR THAT, UM, THAT I PLEDGED TO HIM THAT I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD PUT IN. 
          UM, SO IT, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN SEE IT FROM THAT SIDE AT ALL. 
          UM, BUT THE FRONT WOULD KIND OF LOOK SIMILAR TO THE, THE ONE ON ASHFORD AND ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COMPLIMENT THE HOUSE AND NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ECHO, YOU KNOW, DESIGN AS WELL. 
          SO THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT HELPED, UM, ANSWER THE GENTLEMAN'S QUESTION OR NOT. 
          UM, I THINK WHAT WOULD HELP IS IF WE HAD SOME DRAWINGS THAT INDICATED WHAT YOUR INTENT IS, UH, IN TERMS OF THE AESTHETIC OF THE GARAGE. 
          IT, IT'S, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO, UH, ASHFORD AVENUE, WHICH YOU SEE RIGHT THERE. 
          IT, IT WILL LOOK VERY CLOSE TO THAT, JUST LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          IT WOULD LOOK VERY CLOSE TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH COLORING OF MY HOUSE, I GUESS. 
          ERIC, I GUESS, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE LEFT OR THAT'S, UH, I WAS GONNA, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IF HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ADD TO GO THROUGH THE VARIANCES THAT ARE LAID OUT IN THE AGENDA THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS EVENING. 
          UM, JUST GOING THROUGH EACH ONE TO SEE WHAT CHANGES, IF ANY THERE ARE TO WHAT, UM, YOU HAVE BEEN REQUESTING. 
          YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S NO CHANGES. 
          THE, THE, THE ONES THAT WE ARE REQUESTING ARE, ARE THE ONES WE'RE TRYING TO GET APPROVED FOR THAT, THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, THAT WE WORK WITH THE PLANNING BOARD TO TRY TO GET. 
          BUT ERIC WILL, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I GUESS JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH PEOPLE. 
          I'M GONNA PULL THEM UP RIGHT NOW AND READ THROUGH THEM TOO. 
          OH, WE HAD 'EM ON THE SCREEN A MINUTE AGO. 
          ERIC, IS IT HELPFUL FOR ME TO, UH, POST THE AGENDA OR DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING OTHER GRAPHIC OR SOMETHING? UM, THEY'RE THE SAME AS THE AGENDA, SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY APPROPRIATE THERE. 
          THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          SO THE, THE FIRST, THE FIRST REQUEST, THE VARIANCE REQUEST, UM, WE DID ADDRESS IN THE, IN THE LAST PRESENTATION AND, UM, IT WAS THE, THE ENTRYWAY AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO BE 17 AND A HALF FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AS OPPOSED TO THE 20 FOOT REQUIRED. 
          THE, UM, THE GARAGE VARIANCES ARE ABOUT HAVING A, UM, SETBACK FROM AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING FROM 10 FEET TO 3.6 FEET. 
          THAT'S THE THREE EIGHT DIMENSION THAT WE LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY. 
          AND ALSO TO REDUCE THE SETBACK FROM AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO THE SIDE LOT LINE FROM 10 
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FEET TO ZERO FEET, UM, AND ALSO TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM ACCESSORY BUILDING COVERAGE FROM 6% TO 6.4%, AND ALSO TO PLACE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT YARD, UM, IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS GARAGE, UM, WITHOUT DISTURBING MORE OF THE SPOKES, UH, ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO MOVING THE GARAGE BACK DID NOT REALLY CHANGE THE VARIANCES IN ANY WAY, CORRECT? UH, CORRECT. 
          WE HAD, WE HAD ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED TO THE BOARDS WITH A ZERO, WITH BASICALLY WITH THE GARAGE ON THE FRONT LINE. 
          AND I THINK WHEN WE RESUBMITTED AFTER THE INITIAL DEALING WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, THAT TWO FOUR INCHES IS NOW ON RECORD AS THE REQUEST. 
          SO YEAH, THEY ARE, THEY ARE THE SAME. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? I, OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, GREAT. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY FOR HEARING US OUT AND UH, WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE. 
          THANK YOU FOR OUR PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OUR NEXT CASE IS BLOOM ENERGY CORPORATION CASE 21 26, 1 51 SOUTH FULTON STREET. 
          UH, HELLO. 
          GOOD EVER. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          UH, MY NAME IS KRISTIN BRILLO. 
          I AM THE PERMITTING SPECIALIST FOR BLOOM ENERGY CORPORATION. 
          UM, WE ARE, UH, REQUESTING AN AREA VARIANCE TO ALLOW, UM, AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT YARD AT 1 51 SOUTH FULTON STREET. 
          THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF US INSTALLING, UM, SIX ENERGY SERVERS TO PROVIDE APPROXIMATELY 1,500 KILOWATTS OF BASE LOAD POWER TO THE ALTICE FACILITY. 
          AND, UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH PLANNING BOARD REVIEW. 
          UH, WE HAD OUR SECOND MEETING YESTERDAY AND WE'RE JUST WRAPPING UP, UM, SOME GENERAL CONCERNS AS FAR AS, UH, MORE INFORMATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD AS FAR AS, UM, QUESTIONS IN, UH, ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND THE ENERGY SERVERS. 
          SO, UM, I I'S OKAY TO SHARE MY SCREEN? I WAS GONNA SHOW, UH, JUST THE SITE PLAN, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT? YES, YES, PLEASE DO. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ONE SECOND. 
          I JUST WANNA PULL IT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN EVERYBODY SEE MY SCREEN? UH, NOT YET. 
          UM, OH, IT'S SAYING IT'S PAUSED. 
          HOW ABOUT NOW? YES, WE CAN SEE IT NOW. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO THIS IS OUR, UM, OVERALL SITE PLAN OF THE SITE. 
          UH, FULTON STREET IS HERE. 
          THIS IS RUSSELL STREET. 
          THIS IS, UH, THE INSTALLATION. 
          I WILL ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT SO EVERYBODY COULD SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          SO THIS IS, UH, THE PROPOSED LOCATION ALONG RUSSELL STREET. 
          UH, THE REASON WHY WE'RE REQUESTING IT TO BE PLACED IN THIS AREA AS OPPOSED INTO THE REAR YARD IS BASICALLY, UM, STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          UH, THE ACCE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ACCESS, UM, TO GET TO THE BACKYARD FOR ONE EMERGENCY VEHICLES IF THERE IN AN EVENT AN EMERGENCY WAS TO TAKE PLACE, ANY SORT OF, UM, UH, UNFORESEEN INCIDENT WITH THE SERVERS AND AS WELL AS MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, SO THIS WAS JUST THE MOST IDEAL LOCATION FOR ACCESS. 
          UM, AS WELL AS ALSO SECONDARY CONCERN IS THE TIE IN POINTS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO TIE INTO THE EXISTING, UM, UTILITIES. 
          UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO, IF WE DID, YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS MANAGEABLE, PUT IN THE BACKYARD, UM, WE WOULD BE RUNNING AN EXTENSIVE LINE TO THAT YARD. 
          IT'S JUST FOR BOTH THAT REASON. 
          SOME, THE EXISTING UTILITY CONNECTIONS IS MUCH MORE CONVENIENT, UH, TO PLACE IN FRONT OF THIS FRONT YARD. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHY WE ARE REQUESTING, UM, THE VARIANCE FOR THE PROJECT. 
          UM, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT NOT ONLY JUST THE LOCATION, BUT THE PROJECT ITSELF, UM, WOULDN'T MIND FIELDING SOME QUESTIONS. 
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HERE I AM. 
          UM, ARE THERE ANY, UH, NEEDS TO HAVE ANY, UH, SAFETY CONCERNS WITH RESPECT TO THE SERVERS? WELL, THE SERVERS THEMSELVES ARE EQUIPPED WITH MANY SAFETY FEATURES. 
          THERE ARE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SERVERS COME WITH, UM, EMERGENCY SHUTOFF VALVES. 
          UM, THEY'RE INSTALLED WITH THAT. 
          SO IN CASE, UM, IF THERE IS ANY EVENT OF LIKE OUR ABNORMALITY IN, UH, GAS PRESSURE, THE SENSORS INSIDE THE SYSTEM SENSE THAT, AND THESE FUEL CELLS ARE AUTOMATICALLY SHUT DOWN. 
          THE CELLS ARE ALSO THEMSELVES, UM, MONITORED 24 7 BY A REMOTE MONITORING CENTER, UH, PROVIDED BY BLOOM EMPLOYEES 24 7 MONITORING. 
          SO ANY KIND OF, UM, AGAIN, SENT, UH, ABNORMALITY AND SENSORY PRESSURE IF, UH, SOMETHING, UM, IS DETECTED WITHIN THE SYSTEMS THAT IS JUST NOT RIGHT, OR IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF POWER SHUTDOWN. 
          THE SYSTEMS ARE PROGRAMMED WITH MANY INTERNAL FUNCTIONS TO SENSE THAT, UM, THERE IS JUST SOME ABNORMALITY ACTIVITY GOING ON. 
          THEY AUTOMATICALLY SHUT DOWN AND A BLOOM ENERGY, UM, MAINTENANCE SERVER COMES OUT AND, UH, OVERSEES THE, THE ISSUE, UM, OWNERSHIP OF, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, OWNERSHIP OF THE BUILDING, OF, OF SUPERINTENDENTS THEY HAVE, UM, THEY'RE BRIEFED ON THE SAFETY FEATURES OF IT. 
          UM, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT IF NEEDED. 
          UM, SO IN THAT SENSE OF THE PROJECT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, A LOT OF MECH MECHANISMS TO WHERE THESE SERVERS ARE BEING MONITORED IN, IN CASE OF ANY SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UNFORESEEN EVENT TO HAPPEN THERE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS ALSO, UM, THERE WAS A CONCERN, LIKE WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, WE ARE PUTTING UP A, UM, THERE'S AN EXISTING FENCE AROUND THE SERVERS, WHICH WE WILL BE PUTTING ACOUSTICAL SCREENING ON THERE JUST FOR SCREENING PURPOSES AS WELL AS SOUND ATTENUATION. 
          UM, WHICH IS SOMETHING THE PLANNING BOARD SEEMS TO BE IN FAVOR OF, UH, AS FAR AS JUST, YOU KNOW, KEEPING SITE CLEAN, LOOKING WELL, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF, UH, VISUAL, UM, IF ANYBODY HAD ANY SORT OF VISUAL CONCERNS OF IT, THE SITE WOULD BE MAINTAINED AS WELL. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY THE BOARD? OKAY. 
          IT MIGHT BE A RELATIVELY DUMB QUESTION, BUT, UM, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS THE FRONT YARD, BUT THE ADDRESS IS FULTON STREET, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE SERVERS ARE GOING TO BE PLACED ALONG RUSSELL STREET. 
          SO, UM, IS IT REALLY A FRONT YARD OR A SIDE YARD? WHEN WE FIRST PROPOSED THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD, WE WERE CONSIDERING IT A SIDE YARD, BUT THE, UM, AFTER EXTENSIVE, UH, BUILDING REVIEW, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL HAD DETERMINED THAT A VARIANCE WOULD BE REQUIRED. 
          UM, I GUESS BECAUSE OF THE PLACEMENT ON THE CORNER, UM, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I HAVE A, SO THIS IS THE, THIS IS FULTON. 
          THAT IS RUSSELL, THIS IS TECHNICALLY THE FRONT AREA OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THE SERVICE WOULD BE GOING RIGHT IN THIS AREA. 
          THE PROPERTY HAD A PRIOR HISTORY OF THAT BEING A FRONT, FRONT YARD, LOUIS. 
          SO WE DID IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PREDETERMINATIONS THAT HAPPENED PRIOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NOT OBVIOUS TO ME. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO BE HEARD ON THIS CASE? HEARING NOTHING FURTHER, WE WILL MOVE ON THEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYBODY'S TIME. 
          MUCH APPRECIATED. 
          AND THE NEXT CASE IS CASE 2128, A BISHOP AND PRIMA NAG PROPERTY AT ONE HIGHVIEW DRIVE. 
          UH, YES, UH, MADAM CHAIR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS, UH, LUI GI LANDY, I'M THE, UH, PROJECT DESIGNER FOR, UM, FOR THIS APPLICATION. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE KINDLY ASKING FOR THE, UM, APPROVAL OF THREE VARIANCES. 
          UH, ONE IS THE, UM, ONE SIDE YARD, UH, THE, UM, TWO SIDE YARD COMBINED AND THE, UM, THE INCREASE OF, UH, NONCONFORMING, UH, USE. 
          SO IF I, UH, IF I CAN SHARE THE SCREEN, I CAN GUIDE YOU THROUGH THE PROJECT, MAY I? 
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YES, YES, PLEASE DO. 
          PLEASE DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, CAN EVERYBODY SEE THE SCREEN? YES. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          SO HERE'S A, HERE'S OUR SITE PLAN. 
          WE'RE PROPOSING A SECOND STORY EDITION OVER, UM, OVER AN EXISTING, UH, OH, SIR. 
          PLAN. 
          IT APPEARS THAT YOU HAVE THE, UH, AGENDA OVER, UH, YOUR PLAN THERE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          OBSCURING THE VIEW. 
          IS THAT BETTER NOW? YES. 
          YES IT IS. 
          YES, IT IS. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, LIKE I WAS SAYING, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN. 
          UM, WE'RE PROPOSING A SECOND STORY ADDITION, UM, TO THIS SINGLE FAMILY HOME. 
          THE, UM, VARIANCES THEY'RE REQUESTING IS BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING, SO HERE'S THE NINE FEET, WHEREAS THE CODE REQUIRES, UM, MINIMUM 12 FEET, AND THEREFORE THE TWO COMBINED ALSO WILL AFFECT, UH, WILL BE A VARIANCE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING. 
          THE, UH, CURRENTLY THIS IS A, UM, IT'S A SPLIT LEVEL HOUSE WHERE, UH, CURRENTLY ON THE, UM, ON THE UPPER FLOOR WE HAVE THREE BEDROOMS AND A BATHROOM. 
          UM, OUR INTENTION IS TO KIND OF REARRANGE THE ROOMS, MAKE THE TWO BEDROOMS A LITTLE BIGGER, UM, EQUAL SIZE, AND TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL BATHROOM FOR THE KIDS AND, UM, AND CREATE A PADDLE ROOM WITH THE LAUNDRY ROOM ON THE EXISTING FLOOR. 
          OUR SECOND FLOOR, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WILL HAVE THE MASTER SUITE, UH, ENTIRELY FOR HUSBAND AND WIFE, YOU KNOW, BATHROOM CLOSET, AND A LITTLE HOME OFFICE BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS NEED A HOME OFFICE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ABOUT IT REGARDS TO, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. 
          I KNOW THE HOMEOWNERS ARE HERE TONIGHT, IF THEY WANNA JUMP IN TO SAY ANYTHING. 
          WHEN WAS THE HOUSE, WHEN WAS THE HOUSE BUILT? UH, PRIYA, WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE YEAR THE ORIGINAL HOUSE WAS BUILT? I THINK 1953 OR 1954. 
          YEP. 
          MANAGER. 
          THE ORIGINAL HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1953. 
          THERE WAS A SUBSEQUENT ADDITION MADE IN 1968 AND THEN IN 1983, WHICH I THINK ARE ALL NOTATED IN THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE. 
          BUT SINCE THEN, THERE HAS BEEN NO ADDITIONS, I THINK MADE TO THE HOUSE. 
          OKAY. 
          MAY I ADDRESS THE, THE, THE BOARD AS THE CHAIR? YES, GO AHEAD. 
          GOOD, GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR GETTING A, A REQUEST. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS HERE IN GREENBURG FOR THE LAST 10, 11 YEARS. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR DAUGHTERS WERE BORN HERE AND ARE NOW 11 AND NINE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AS THEY'VE GROWN UP RIGHT, THEIR NEEDS HAVE, UH, INCREASED AND, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE, BOTH OF THEM ARE BLACK BELTS IN, IN TAEKWONDO AND BOTH, UH, UH, THE ELDER ONE ACTUALLY HAS BEEN REQUESTED AS PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, DANCE, UH, FOR, UH, MODERN DANCE AS WELL. 
          SO A LOT OF THE STUFF HAPPENS AT HOME. 
          MY OWN PERSONAL WORK CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED, AND I ACTUALLY NOW WORK PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME FROM HOME. 
          PREVIOUSLY, I USED TO WORK FROM AN OFFICE. 
          MY WIFE ALSO KIND OF SPENDS A MAJORITY OF HER TIME ON PHONE DESIGNING AND OTHER STUFF. 
          SO I, AND I THINK, UH, OUR PARENTS ARE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOTTEN OLD AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO KIND OF STAY MORE WITH US AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          SO AS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MOVED HERE 10 YEARS BACK, AND WE STILL DO LOVE OUR PLACE, LOVE THE HOUSE, WE NEVER ACTUALLY ANTICIPATED THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO CHANGE THIS MUCH. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF HELPED NECESSITATE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS REQUEST. 
          AND AS, AS OUR ARCHITECT, LUIGI WOULD ADDRESS, WE'VE EXPLORED LIKE EVERY SINGLE OPTION THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, DOES THE LEAST AMOUNT OF, UH, UH, VARIANCE REQUIREMENTS HAS ZERO IMPACT TOWARDS THE, UH, ENVIRONMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED CLEARANCE FROM THE, THE STORMWATER AND, UH, OTHERS AS WELL. 
          THERE'S NO IMPACT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE LOOKED AT PLACING, UH, GROWTH AND RESTRUCTURING THE HOUSE IN ALL DIFFERENT FORMS, AND THIS WAS THE LEAST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IMPACT, UH, OPTION THAT WE COULD THINK OF. 
          UH, AND IT'S AGAIN, AN EXISTING STRUCTURE WHERE WE ARE ADDING ON TOP, AND THE HEIGHT IS OBVIOUSLY WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. 
          SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE, THE, THE HARDSHIP IS MUCH MORE DRIVEN BY, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE IN OUR CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE KIDS NEEDING SPACE AND, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT LAYOUT OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH GUESTS, IT JUST BECOMES EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO ACTUALLY MANAGE THE, THE HOUSEHOLD WITH, AND EVERYBODY NEEDING THEIR OWN SPACE GETS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE REASONS FOR, UH, FOR OUR, UH, REQUEST FOR EXPANSION HERE TODAY. 
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ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I JUST HAVE ONE. 
          IT MAY BE MORE A QUESTION FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT I SEE THAT THERE WAS ALREADY, UM, A VARIANCE GRANTED FOR THE SIDE YARDS IN 1981, I GUESS FOR WHEN THE, THE FIRST EDITION WAS DONE. 
          I JUST WONDERED WHY YOU HAVE TO GET THE VAR. 
          I UNDERSTAND GETTING THE VARIANCE TO ENLARGE THE NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE, BUT HOW COME YOU NEED TO GET THE SIDE YARD VARIANCES AGAIN? BECAUSE THE INCREASE OF VOLUME OF THE ADDITION. 
          SO, SO YOU'RE ADDING VOLUME AND IT'S NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN. 
          SO ANYTIME YOU HAD A ONE STORY ADDITION AND YOU HAD A VARIANCE FOR THE ONE STORY ADDITION AND YOU PUT AN ADDITION ON TOP, YOU WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED THOSE SIDE YARDS AND THE INCREASE OF THE NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION, ANTHONY, WHICH REALLY DOESN'T NECESSARILY RELATE TO THIS, BUT BECAUSE WE WERE DISCUSSING IT EARLIER WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, THE, THE TWO CAR GARAGE REQUIREMENT, IS THAT FOR A NEW CONSTRUCTION OR IS THERE A, UM, IS THERE A POINT AT WHICH AFTER YOU'VE DONE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WORK TO AN EXISTING DWELLING, THAT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED? NO, IT'S A GENERAL REQUIREMENT OF THE ZONING CODE IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO OFF STREET PARKING AREAS. 
          IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY WITHIN A GARAGE. 
          IT COULD BE WITHIN A GARAGE OR A DRIVEWAY, BUT THE CODE REQUIRES TWO OFF STREET PARKING AREAS. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, J AND JUST TO ADDRESS MAD, IF I MAY? YES, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, OUR DRIVEWAY IS ACTUALLY FAIRLY LONG, SO WE ACTUALLY CAN PARK TWO CARS IN THAT DRIVEWAY ALONG WITH THE GARAGE. 
          WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING SPACE, AND WHEN OUR GUESTS COME, THEY TYPICALLY PARK IN OUR DRIVEWAY. 
          NO, NO, I WASN'T QUESTIONING YOUR PARKING SPACE, . 
          SORRY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE COMMUNITY? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE NEXT CASE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS CASE 2129. 
          COLLEEN THOMAS PROPERTY AT 2 31 BRYANT AVENUE. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          EVERYONE. 
          UM, COLLEEN THOMAS, C O L E E N T H O M A SS. 
          I AM THE OWNER AT 2 3 1 BRYANT AVENUE. 
          I RECENTLY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. 
          WE ARE SEEKING, UH, A ONE VARIANCE, ONE AREA VARIANCE TO FINISH MY ATTIC SPACE. 
          CURRENTLY, WE'RE ZONED FOR, WE HAVE TWO FINISHED FLOORS. 
          OUR PROPERTY IS FOR TWO AND A HALF FINISHED FLOORS, SO THE VARIANCE WOULD BE TO ALLOW US TO GO TO THREE FINISHED FLOORS. 
          UM, IN THE DOCUMENTS I SUBMITTED, UH, PART OF FINISHING THE ATTIC WOULD BE INCLUDING A EGRESS WINDOW FOR TO FOLLOW SAFETY CODE, AND THAT IS . 
          MA'AM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DISPLAY THE PLANS FOR YOU? UH, YES, PLEASE. 
          OKAY, WILL DO. 
          AND I KNOW YOU HAVE PHOTOS AS WELL. 
          I HAVE THOSE IF YOU, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO SHOW THEM. 
          YES. 
          SO THE EXISTING HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1942. 
          APPARENTLY THERE HAD BEEN TWO ADDITIONS ADDED. 
          THE PORCH WAS, THE FRONT PORCH WAS ENCLOSED AT ONE POINT, AND THEN THEY ALSO SO ADDED A GARAGE TO THE PARK PROPERTY. 
          SO THE EXISTING PROPERTY AS IT IS TODAY, IS HOW IT'S GOING TO STAY. 
          WE'RE NOT DOING, IN ADDITION, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS BASICALLY ADD FINISHED SPACE TO THE ALREADY EXISTING ATTIC, AND AS I MENTIONED, PUT IN THAT EGRESS WINDOW ON THE SOUTHERLY. 
          IT WILL FACE THE SOUTHERLY, UH, PART OF THE PROPERTY. 
          SO AS FAR AS, UH, OBSTRUCTIONS TO THE NEIGHBORS, THERE WILL, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY, THE PROPERTY LINE IS A LINE OF ELM AND MAPLE TREES AND MY DRIVEWAY. 
          I, SO THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE, UH, FIRST FLOOR IN ORDER TO CREATE THAT SPACE INTO LIVABLE SPACE FOR ACCESS-WISE, CORRECT. 
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NO ADDITIONAL CHANGES NEED TO BE DONE TO THE HOUSE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE RES WINDOW FOR SAFETY. 
          AND IS THERE ANY PLUMBING THAT'S BEING DONE ON THAT FLOOR? NO, I'M FINISHING THE SPACE TO INCLUDE AN OFFICE FOR MYSELF AND A PLAYROOM FOR MY TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS. 
           ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF QUESTION FROM ANY OF YOU? I HEARD SOMEONE, UH, JUST TO COMMENT. 
          YES, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THE DRAWINGS, I WAS SLIGHTLY, UM, CONFUSED BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING HOW THE RARE ELEVATION ENDED UP BEING SO WIDE, AND THEN I REALIZED IT WAS JUST MISLABELED. 
          UM, SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT SHOULD BE CORRECTED BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE, UH, I THINK THE RARE, RARE ELEVATION AND THE SIDE ELEVATION INCORRECTLY LABELED, UH, THE HOUSE IS SLIGHTLY SLOPED. 
          UH, NO, I'M SORRY, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEAN. 
          IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, SORRY, THAT'S NOT, THE BOTTOM ONE IS NOT THE REAR ELEVATION. 
          YES. 
          THAT WOULD BE A SIDE ELEVATION. 
          NUMBER FOUR WOULD BE A SIDE IS WHAT? HE'S JUST TRYING TO, UH, OKAY. 
          SO HE JUST HAS TO BE CHANGED ON THE DRAWINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          SIDE. 
          OKAY, WILL DO. 
           ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYTHING FROM THE AUDIENCE HEARING? NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 
          WE WILL MOVE ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE LAST CASE WE HAVE ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS CASE 2130, UH, PAGE BROSKY PROPERTY AT 2121 SELMA RIVER ROAD. 
          UM, WE DO, WE ARE IN A POSITION TO HEAR THIS CASE. 
          HOWEVER, THERE'S INFORMATION THAT WE ALSO ARE WAITING FOR FROM THE, UM, I'M GONNA PROBABLY MESS THEIR NAME UP, , BUT IT'S THE, UM, LANDMARK, UH, COMMISSION. 
          COMMISSION. 
          SO WHO IS HERE TO ADDRESS THIS MATTER? HELLO, MY NAME'S EVELYN BRODSKY. 
          I WILL BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY MOTHER, WHO IS ALSO HERE. 
          UM, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRWOMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF ME TO SHARE, SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SHARING THEM, WE ARE COMING IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO GRANT US, UH, SEVERAL VARIANCES, UH, TO TOWARDS THE END OF GETTING OUR PROPERTY SUBDIVIDED. 
          AND WE WANT THAT SUBDIVISION TO HELP RESOLVE A LONGSTANDING LEGAL ISSUE BETWEEN THE TOWN AND MY FAMILY. 
          UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE, UH, NO CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY AT ALL OTHER THAN THOSE WHICH NEED TO BE MADE ON, UH, A SECOND, THE, THE ONE BEDROOM, UM, APARTMENT ABOVE A GARAGE THAT THERE ARE SOME, UH, BUILDING CODE VIOLATIONS AGAINST. 
          SO ONLY THOSE CHANGES ARE, ARE WHAT WOULD BE MADE. 
          UM, WHAT I WE'RE ASKING FOR PRETTY MUCH IS JUST TO CHANGE THE LINE ON A, A SHEET OF PAPER. 
          SO THE VARIANCES THAT YOU WOULD BE GRANTING US WOULD, UM, ALLOW THE PROPERTY TO, TO GO UNCHANGED, UM, PHYSICALLY WHILE ALLOWING THAT LINE TO BE DRAWN THAT HE'S DRAWING SO NICELY FOR ME RIGHT NOW. 
          THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS KIND OF IT IN A NUTSHELL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND WE ARE WAITING FOR INFORMATION WITH RESPECT TO WHETHER OR NOT, UH, OH, YES. 
          SORRY, FOR, FOR, UM, NOT MENTIONING THAT. 
          UH, SO THE PRESERVATION BOARD, SO THE, THE, THE MAIN HOUSE, UH, WHICH IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT RIGHT LINE, IS, UM, UNDER, UH, YEAH, IS, UH, IS A HISTORIC HOME. 
          UM, SO THE PRESERVATIONS BOARD WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN AND GIVE THEIR, UH, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S BEING DONE CORRECTLY. 
          THE, THE BUILDING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE HAVING ANY WORK DONE AT ALL. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD JUST BE TO BRING IT TO CODE IS TO THE RIGHT OF THE LINE. 
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UM, SO, UH, WE MET LAST NIGHT WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THEY SAID THAT WE, YOU KNOW, AS THIS IS GONNA BE A SEVERAL MONTH LONG PROCESS FOR US TO GET THIS SUBDIVISION, WE WILL BE TO CON, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CONTINUE IN THIS PROCESS, UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE NOT GONNA GIVE US FINAL PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL UNTIL WE GET, UH, THE THUMBS UP FROM THE PRESERVATION BOARD. 
          THE, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE WANTS TO ASK ON THIS MATTER. 
          I KNOW THAT YOUR FATHER HAD PRESENTED IT SOME TIME AGO, SO WE'RE YEAH. 
          FAMILIAR WITH, I DIDN'T KNOW IF HE, UM, PRESENTED HERE, BUT YEAH, HE, I KNOW HE WAS WORKING ON IT BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY. 
          YES. 
          ANYTHING FROM THE AUDIENCE? ANY COMMENTS ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE? UH, MADELINE, OSHA WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. 
          UM, I DON'T NEED TO SAY ANYTHING AS LONG AS THIS, UM, WILL BE HELD OVER AT LEAST UNTIL NEXT MONTH. 
          THE BRODSKY'S ARE NOT SCHEDULED AT HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION, BUT AS SOON AS THEY PUT AN APPLICATION FORM IN, WE WILL TRY TO SCHEDULE THEM. 
          UM, EVERY, ALL PAPER HAS TO BE IN 10 DAYS BEFORE OUR MEETING, AND WE LOOK FOR, WE, I DO KNOW THE PROPERTY. 
          I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING ON, ON THE GROUNDS, SO I DO KNOW THE PROPERTY. 
          I VALUE IT AS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT TO GREENBERG'S HISTORY, AND I THINK THE REST OF THE BOARD DOES AS WELL. 
          MADAM CHAIRMAN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD IT OVER, THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY. 
          THAT IS OUR INTENTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          SO DOES THE BOARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE WANTS TO ADD OR COMMENT? UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO THANK MS. SOCHE AND, UM, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HAD TO REACH OUT. 
          WE WILL REACH OUT, UH, AND EXPEDITE THE, THE PROCESS. 
          UM, THANKS FOR REACHING OUT TO US AND WE CARE MUCH ABOUT THE PROPERTY AS WELL. 
          I KNOW YOU DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO HAVING SAID THAT, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN FOR OUR DELIBERATIONS AT THIS POINT. 
          AND AS, AS I ANNOUNCED PREVIOUSLY, YOU ARE ABLE TO LISTEN, BUT NOT TO PARTICIPATE OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS AT THAT TIME. 
          AND WE WILL TAKE A BREAK FOR EIGHT MINUTES. 
          IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR EVERYONE? SO THAT WOULD PUT US BACK HERE AT NINE 50. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE NINE 50. 
          OKAY. 
          SEE YOU THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RECORDING STOPPED PUTTING IN PROGRESS. 
          FEEL FREE TO START WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS. 
          OKAY, WE ARE BACK WITH OUR DELIBERATIONS. 
          SO LET'S START AT OUR FIRST CASE THIS EVENING, WHICH IS 2111. 
          THAT'S THE PROPERTY ON LAUREL STREET. 
          WHERE ARE WE AT THIS POINT? DON'T ALL SPEAK AT ONCE. 
          I THINK YOU SAID WE YOU WERE GONNA BE ADJOURNING IT SO THEY CAN STAKE IT OUT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED? NO, GO AHEAD, ED. 
          NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UH, SO I, I WOULDN'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON IT. 
          JUST GO TO THE NEXT ONE AND VIEW HOUR. 
          NO, I WAS GONNA SAY GOOD TO ME THAT WE NEED TO ASK, DO WE, DO WE NEED A BALLOON FOR THE, UH, NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET? OH, WAS THAT A JUST SAYING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE A THE ARCHITECT DISTRESSED THE, UH, THE, THE FRONT, BUT HE, UH, HE KIND OF GLOSSED OVER THE FACT THAT THE PORTION IN THE BACK, HE SAID, UH, IS NOT VIEWED FROM THE FRONT. 
          SO, BUT IT IS VIEWED FROM THE BACK EITHER WAY. 
          I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS A CONSEQUENCE. 
          MAYBE. 
          WELL, MY THOUGHT WAS WHEN IT WAS SAID IS PERHAPS IT'S A QUESTION OF LIGHT BECAUSE, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES THERE AND I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT DIRECTION THE SUN COMES UP IN, BECAUSE I, FOR ONE, LIVED BEHIND A HILL, SO I  YEAH, VERY LITTLE 
          [02:35:01]
SUN. 
          BUT THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I THOUGHT OF. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          NOTHING BEING SAID. 
          HEIGHT IS NOT AN HEIGHT IS NOT AN ISSUE IN THIS CASE. 
          CORRECT? THEY DO NOT NEED A VARIANCE FOR THAT. 
          NO, THEY DON'T NEED A VARIANCE FOR IT. 
          THE ONLY THING IS THE PERCEPTION OF THIS BEING A MCMANSION. 
          NO, IT'S THE, THE SIZE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PROPERTY THEY'RE PUTTING IT ON IS THE ISSUE. 
          SO  THE BOARD WOULD LIKE WE CAN, SORRY, GO AHEAD LEWIS. 
          SORRY. 
          THEY, UM, WHEN YOU TALK DON'T MIND, DON'T, THEY DON'T MIND THERE BEING A HOUSE BUILT THERE JUST SO LONG AS THEY LIKE IT. 
          UM, I, I REMEMBER THAT THERE IS SOME HISTORY, I GUESS, WITH THIS CASE AND THE, UH, COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT NEXT DOOR QUITE A BIT. 
          BUT I COULDN'T, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? YOU COULDN'T, WHAT? I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS SUCH, UM, A THING ABOUT THE HEIGHT AND SIZE OF THE HOUSE. 
          THE HOUSE DOES APPEAR TO BE RELATIVELY SMALL COMPARED TO, UM, WHAT IT COULD BE, OR, OR ACTUALLY IT'S, THE ARCHITECT DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF, UM, PUTTING A NICE HOUSE IN A VERY SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY. 
          AND I THINK THAT, UM, WHEN YOU GO THERE, YOU SEE THAT YOU HAVE ALL THAT OTHER SPACE, UH, BETWEEN, UH, ON, UH, LET'S SEE ON, UM, WEST SIDE BETWEEN THAT PROPERTY IN CENTRAL PARK AVENUE WHERE I WOULD MOVE THE WHOLE HOUSE OVER AND HAVE A ZERO, UM, SETBACK ON THE WEST PROPERTY LINE AND INCREASE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBOR ON THE EAST SIDE, WHICH I THINK WAS MORE OR LESS A, UH, SUGGESTED BUT NOT AS A ZERO SETBACK ON THE WEST SIDE, BUT JUST GIVING THEM THE, THE REQUIRED 10 FEET ON THE EAST SIDE. 
          SO WE WANNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE. 
          WELL, A COUPLE POINTS I HAD, UM, THAT FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. 
          LOUIS, UH, AND, AND ED, ED, I WANTED TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION AS WELL. 
          UH, WITH REGARD TO THE LAYOUT OF ZONING DISTRICT, UH, I CAN SHARE SCREEN, BUT, UM, THE WAY THE LOT ANGLES, THAT TRIANGLE THAT KIND OF CUTS DOWN WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK THEY INDICATED POTENTIAL EASEMENTS, UM, THAT IS ZONE CA SO THE HOUSE WERE PULLED, UM, VERY CLOSE TO CENTRAL, UH, AND NOT RESPECTING OF THE PROPERTY LINE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WOULD BE IN THE CA DISTRICT. 
          SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GONNA POSE TO THE APPLICANT, UH, SUGGESTED THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, AUTHORIZED US TO POSE ON YOUR BEHALF IS, UH, THAT, THAT DYNAMIC THAT THEY ENTERED INTO THE EQUATION WITH REGARD TO, UM, EASEMENT AND MAYBE CLARIFY WHAT THEY MEANT THERE. 
          UM, DID THEY INTEND TO HAVE YARD SPACE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITHIN AN EASEMENT OR ACTUALLY PHYSICAL BUILDING, UH, WITHIN THE EASEMENT TO ACHIEVE, UH, SORT OF THE, UM, EXTRA SETBACK FROM, FROM THE HOUSE AS LEWIS SUGGESTED, BUT, UM, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE LEGAL CONCERNS IF, IF THERE WAS ACTUALLY BUILDING FOOTPRINT, UH, WITHIN THE CA DISTRICT, WHICH DOES NOT PERMIT, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          COULD YOU THROW THAT UP ON THE SCREEN? YES, I CAN. 
          BACK TO ME. 
          YES. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS THE, THE SUBJECT LOT. 
          AND THIS RED IS THE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT BOUNDARY. 
          SO THE, THE BUSINESS MONTAGE HERE IS THIS SHAPE, WHICH IS ALL CA DISTRICT. 
          SO, UM, THEY MENTIONED, UH, POTENTIALLY GRANTING, UH, SOME SORT OF EASEMENT. 
          SO ONE QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THIS E B A INQUIRE ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, COULD YOU PUT THAT ON PAPER TO SHOW US WHAT, WHAT THAT MEANS? LIKE WHERE THE 
          [02:40:01]
EASEMENT THEY, THEY WOULD CONCEIVE OF IF THEY DO WANNA FORMALIZE THAT CONCEPT OF AN EASEMENT. 
          BUT, UM, SO I GUESS I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS SPACE HERE. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE I DID NOT QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN SHE WAS SAYING AN EASEMENT. 
          NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALK, WHAT IS BEING SPOKEN ABOUT WHEN I SEE IT THIS WAY. 
          DOES THE DISTRICT BOUNDARY, UM, FOLLOW THE LOT LINE? IT DOES. 
          IT'S OBSCURED A BIT, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S CO-TERMINUS, UH, IN THIS LOCATION. 
          UH, BUT THE CA DISTRICT, YES, IT, IT, IT COMES LIKE THIS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT CATCHES ALL THESE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. 
          UM, SO I THINK PRIOR WHEN I, I I DON'T KNOW IF I MADE THE SUGGESTION, BUT, UM, WHEN THE BOARD POSED THE QUESTION, UM, WOULD YOU EVER CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, BRINGING A LOT LINE IN THIS DIRECTION TO ENLARGE THE LOT AND REDUCE THE NEED FOR VARIANCE WITH RESPECT TO SETBACKS AND, UM, LOT SIZE AND ALSO GIVE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO GET THE HOUSE, UM, FURTHER AWAY FROM THIS LOT? UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK IF I MADE THAT SUGGESTION, I WAS BRINGING INTO THE EQUATION THAT THE COMPLICATION OF THE CA DISTRICT HERE. 
          UM, SO IN HINDSIGHT, UH, , YOU KNOW, ONE CONCEIVABLE OPTION WOULD BE IF THERE WAS A LINE BROUGHT HERE, UM, TO ACHIEVE THAT GREATER FLEXIBILITY AND REDUCE THE VARIANCE, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE COMBOED WITH A ZONE CHANGE TO, UH, MAKE THIS THIS NEW TRIANGLE POLYGON, UH, SINGLE FAMILY. 
          UM, JUST TO KIND OF CLEAN UP THE, ANY ZONING COMPLICATIONS. 
          YES. 
          I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET, THE SOUTH, IS THAT THIS IS A, A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS HERE. 
          UM, SO THE, I WAS WONDERING MOST EVERYTHING IS, UM, COMMERCIAL, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, CA DISTRICT USES? YES. 
          UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW AREAS IN THE DISTRICT WHERE THE CA UH, GETS RATHER CLOSE TO THE FRONTAGE OF CENTRAL YOU MEAN WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL GETS CLOSE TO? UM, YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          NOT THE CA THAT'S WHAT YEAH, I, I MEAN WHAT YOU SAID. 
          YES. 
          WELL, WELL, YEAH. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE CONTEMPLATING IS, UH, UH, REDRAWING OF THE DISTRICT LINE, UH, TO POTENTIALLY, IT, IT COULD MAKE SENSE TO ACHIEVE, UH, LESSENING THE VARIANCE NUMBER, BUT I GUESS MORE IMPACTFUL IN TERMS OF IMPACTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTS, UM, WOULD BE GIVING MORE FLEXIBILITY TO, UM, HAVE A GREATER BUFFER OR COMPLIANT BUFFER, UH, WITH THIS HOME HERE. 
          WELL, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AND YOU CAN, AND YOU, WE WE'RE ADJOURNING IT ANYWAY, SO, UH, WE CAN PURSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, LATER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO MENTION ON THAT. 
          AND JUST QUICKLY, WE, WHILE WE DO EXPLORE THAT OR POSE THAT QUESTION, DO SOME RESEARCH THERE, WE'LL ALSO BE MINDFUL OF, YOU KNOW, THE LAW AREA REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS EXISTING BUSINESS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT HAVING REVERSE, YOU KNOW, VARIANCE IMPLICATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THIS LOT. 
          SO, RIGHT. 
          WE'LL CHECK IN WITH THEM. 
          WE'LL CHECK BACK ON THAT. 
          GARRETT, WHEN I KNOW WE ASKED IN THE LAST MEETING IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO REDUCE THE SIZE, WOULD IT BE WORTH IT TO GO AND ASK THEM AGAIN IF TO REDUCE THE, THE NEEDED VARIANCE? WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO REDUCE THE STRUCTURE WIDTH BY A FEW FEET? WOULD IT BE WORTH IT TO ASK 'EM AGAIN? I THINK IT'S WELL WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW TO POSE THAT QUESTION. 
          IF YOU FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO LESSEN THE VARIANCE AND, UH, LESSEN THE IMPACTS, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD, I CERTAINLY WOULD NOT DISCOURAGE YOU FROM, WELL CERTAINLY GIVE THE NEIGHBOR, EVEN IF THEY REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE BY TWO OR THREE FEET, IT WOULD GIVE THE NEIGHBOR ON THAT SIDE, ON THE, UH, THEIR, THEIR AT LEAST THEIR FULL 10 FEET. 
          WELL, WE CAN ASK. 
          I MEAN, YEAH, HE, HE DEVOTED THE, THE, I THINK HALF OF HIS, UH, PRESENTATION TO THIS IS THE HOUSE. 
          THIS, THESE ARE THE HOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT NOW, AND IT'S ONLY A TWO CAR GARAGE AND AN ENTRYWAY. 
          AND THERE'S NO WAY, YOU KNOW, TO AVOID, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSE, THERE'S A DINING ROOM, THERE'S A, UH, EATING NOOK IN THE KITCHEN. 
          THERE'S A, I MEAN, THERE IS SPACE FOR POTENTIALLY . 
          OF COURSE THERE IS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, BUT THEY, THEY DON'T, WELL, THEY DON'T, 
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THEY WANNA SELL THE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE MAX THAT THEY FEEL THEY CAN GET, YOU KNOW, HOUSES . 
          OH. 
          EXCEPT THAT THEY NEED A VARIANCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE DIFFERENCE IS, YOU KNOW, YES. 
          SO EL ELSEWHERE, THIS WOULD BE A SMALL HOUSE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT ON THIS LOT, IT'S NOT PERMITTED AS A PRICE. 
          RIGHT? YES. 
          AND THEY KNEW THAT WHEN THEY, AND THEY KNEW THAT WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT, THEY BOUGHT IT AND WHEN THEY DESIGNED IT, CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL POSE THAT QUESTION AGAIN. 
          AND, UM, JUST ONE OTHER POINT WITH REGARD TO STAKING THE CORNERS OF THE HOUSE. 
          WE'LL ENSURE THAT THEY PUT IN SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT LASTS, WHETHER IT'S FLAGS, THE STAKES IN THE GROUND, IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T, UH, WASH AWAY WITH THE RAIN OR BECOME WEATHERED. 
          SO, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE SAID WASHING AWAY. 
          I SAID, THAT'S NOT A STEAK. 
          THAT'S TALKING ABOUT USING CHALK INSTEAD OF LIKE THE POLICE LINES. 
          YEAH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A STAKE THOUGH. 
          IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          NO, NO. 
          THEY WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT, THEY WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT STATE THE STAKES. 
          THEY, WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO IS DRAW LINES ON THE GROUND. 
          SO YOU, YOU COULD SEE BETWEEN THE STAKES. 
          SO YOU COULD SEE THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          BUT THAT COULD BE A STRENGTH. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          THAT'S HOW I LOOKED AT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING'S VERY LEGIBLE AND THAT IT'S NOT THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, A DAY OR TWO. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND JUST, AND, AND IF THEY COULD LET US KNOW WHEN THEY DO IT ALSO. 
          YES. 
          WE WILL BE IN CONSTANT CONTACT. 
          WE'LL LET YOU KNOW AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. 
          I, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE WANNA RAISE? OKAY, SO THAT ONE WILL BE OVER TO NOVEMBER 18TH AND NEXT WE HAVE PROPERTY OF 38 SPRING VALLEY ROAD, THE DRIVEWAY WITH THE PERVIOUS SURFACES. 
          DON'T ALL SPEAK AT ONCE. 
          YOU DON'T, THE ONLY, ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS THAT THEY'RE MAKING THE POINT THAT THEY NEED THAT AREA ON THE RIGHT OF THE HOUSE AS YOU'RE LOOKING TOWARD IT, SO THAT THEIR LANDSCAPERS CAN ACCESS THE REAR. 
          BUT THEY SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF SPACE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          I WAS SAYING, BUT POOL, THEY DIDN'T MENTION HOUSE. 
          THAT NOBODY ASKED ABOUT THE HOUSE , WHEN, WHEN DID THIS ARISE? BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY WERE BEFORE US IN, UM, 2019 FOR THE POOL. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN DID THEY FIGURE OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY NEED TO LEGALIZE THE DRIVEWAY? I MEAN, DID THEY DO IT OR, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PAVERS? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PAVERS THAT WAS SUGGESTED? THAT WAS MENTIONED IN OUR LETTER IN SEPTEMBER. 
          THEY PUT 'EM IN. 
          I'M GONNA SEND A LITTLE BIT ON THE BACK. 
          YEAH, THEY DID. 
          YEAH, THEY PUT 'EM IN NEXT TO THE RETAINING WALL. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T THINK IT WAS THE PAVERS THAT WAS THE ISSUE. 
          IT WAS THE SHRUBBERY FOR SCREENING THAT WE WOULD PUT IN THAT LITTLE SLIVER OF SPACE THAT WOULD PUT PREVENT LANDSCAPER ACCESS TO THE, UH, TO THE BANK. 
          BUT THEN THEY RAISED THE FACT THAT THE RETAINING WALL IS HIGH ENOUGH TO SHIELD, I GUESS, OR HIDE THE, THE CARS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S HIGHER. 
          BUT I, I AGREE. 
          I SAID, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE? THEY DON'T EVEN MENTION IT. 
          IS THERE A GATE THOUGH? 'CAUSE THE BACK IS FENCED IN. 
          I THEY SAID THERE'S A GATE. 
          WELL, THERE IS ON THE SIDE WHERE THEY SAY THEY CAN'T PUT THE SCREENING IN. 
          BUT IS THERE A GATE ON THE OTHER SIDE? I DON'T, I DIDN'T SEE A PICTURE OF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          BUT THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. 
          WELL, IF, IF THEY HAVE A POOL, THEN THERE MAY BE A, A GATE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE DEPENDING ON WHERE THE FENCE IS FOR THE POOL. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          YEAH, WE DON'T. 
          I MEAN, ANTHONY, I MEAN, WHEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AREA THAT THEY'RE PUTTING THESE OUS PAPERS IN, IT'S REALLY JUST AN AS AN AESTHETIC MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. 
          CORRECT? 
          [02:50:01]
I MEAN, IT'S CORRECT, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR AN IMPERVIOUS VARIANCE ON THE LOT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEY'RE NOT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY BENEFITING THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WALL IS. 
          SOME STORMWATER BENEFIT FROM THE PAVER VERSUS A STRAIGHT PAVEMENT. 
          IT. 
          CORRECT. 
          THERE THERE IS, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IT'S NOT AN IMPERVIOUS ISSUE ON THE LOT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WE'RE ASKING FOR AN IMPERVIOUS, YOU KNOW, VARIANCE THAT THEY WERE MITIGATING IT WITH THE PERMEABLE PAVERS. 
          ACTUALLY, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE GATE IN THE LAST PICTURE THEY GAVE US ON THE SIDE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHERE THEY, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SIDE THAT THEY HAVE TO GO. 
          THAT'S THE SIDE WHERE YEAH, THEY GO BACK. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          UM, I, WELL, BUT DO YOU WANNA DO, DO YOU WANNA DO, UH, STRAW VOTE AT THIS POINT? WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF QUIET HERE TONIGHT. 
          I'M FINE WITH THIS PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ONE. 
          ROLLING. 
          I'M GONNA ABSTAIN. 
          THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR LATEST POSITION THESE DAYS. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          BUT YOU'RE RUNNING, DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA BE THE ONE WE KNOW IDEA. 
          IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH VOTE TO GO AHEAD WITH IT, GO AHEAD. 
          YOU KNOW, SO, BUT I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT, WHY, WHY, WHAT HAPPENED, WHY THIS WASN'T RAISED IN 2019 AND WHY WE'RE RAISING IT NOW IN 2021. 
          WAS IT, WAS IT, WAS IT FINE BACK THEN WHEN THEY CAME FOR THE POOL AND DECIDED, DID THEY PUT IT IN? NOW LOOK AT THE PICTURE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THEY ADDED THIS ADDITIONAL BLACK TIE. 
          UH, IF YOU, YOU LOOK AT THIS PHOTO HERE, I DUNNO IF YOU CAN SEE IT. 
          YEAH, I SAW, SEE IT IN THERE. 
          YOU SEE THE LINE? DID YOU SEE WHERE, YOU SEE WHERE THE LINE IS? YEAH, THE BLUE LINE. 
          I SEE IT. 
          THE WHITE TOP THAT WENT IN. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEY ADDED THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE. 
          I CAN'T SWEAR BY IT. 
          YEAH, I THINK THEY SAID THEY ADDED IT BECAUSE THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RADIUS TO TURN IN. 
          SO THEY ADDED IT BECAUSE IT GOT VERY, LIKE YOU COULDN'T REALLY GROW GRASS THERE OR ANYTHING. 
          AND THEY WERE ALWAYS DRIVING ON IT AND IT WAS BECOMING KIND OF SWAMPY. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          IT WAS WHY I SUGGESTED DOING THE PERVIOUS PAVERS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          BUT IT DOES GO, IT DOES GO DOWN SUCH A LONG DISTANCE THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WOULD NEED THAT DISTANCE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE, TO THE CURB AND THE WALL. 
          YOU NEED IT FOR THE HOOP. 
          RIGHT. 
          , IT LOOKS DIFFERENT. 
          YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE THERE, IT DOESN'T LOOK AS BAD IN THE PICTURE PICTURE. 
          YEAH. 
          AS IT DOES ON THE PLANS. 
          LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PICTURE, IT'S LIKE BLACK AND WHITE ONE. 
          SORRY, MY SCREEN IS . 
          YEAH. 
          YOU GOT YOUR BACKGROUND GOING IN . 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WAIT, HOLD ON. 
          WELL, THE ANSWER, ROWAN, YOU'D NEED TO GO BACK AND SEE TO THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION AND SEE WHAT WAS THERE. 
          THEN WE JUST HAVE A HISTORY WITH DRIVEWAYS, THAT'S ALL. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY EVE, UH, I KNOW SOME, WE'VE ZEROED OUT, WE'VE MADE EXCEPTIONS. 
          SOME WE'VE TURNED DOWN SOME WE'VE TOLD THEM TAKE IT UP. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHY I WANNA KNOW IF THEY CAME IN FOR THE POOL. 
          SO, BUT ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PARKING WHERE CHRISTY HAS THAT UGLY PICTURE? NO, WAIT. 
          LIKE SEE THIS PICTURE? YEAH. 
          THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PARKING THE CAR THERE, YOU KNOW, IT APPEARS THAT THEY MUST, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT CAR PARKED THERE. 
          WELL, NO, LIKE, SEE THIS PICTURE, THERE'S THE GARAGE AND THIS IS THE CAR, AND THE CAR IS ON THE, THE PART WHERE THEY PAVED MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO LIKE FOR THEM FOR, TO REALLY, LIKE, THIS IS WHAT I SAID LAST TIME, WHEN THEY BUILT THIS HOUSE, WHOEVER BUILT IT, THEY, THEY DIDN'T LEAVE ENOUGH ROOM LITERALLY FOR THE CAR TO COME IN AND TURN IN. 
          LIKE IT'S VERY TIGHT. 
          SO TO GET INTO THAT GARAGE YEAH. 
          AND TO GET OUT THERE. 
          SO I SEE WHY THEY PAVED IT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU, YOU HAVE GRASS THERE AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE GROSS, SWAMPY, I GUESS, WITH THE STOVE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED THE PERVY PAVERS, AND I THINK, I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT LOOKED, YOU KNOW, 
          [02:55:02]
NICE, I GUESS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING. 
          EXACTLY. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          . 
          SO LOU, WHAT'S YOUR POSITION, LOU? UH, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT. 
          UM, AND I CAN SEE WHY THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WANNA, OR WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO PUT, ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT DIFFICULT AT ALL TO PUT THE SHRUBBERY THERE. 
          IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE SAYING THEN THEIR LANDSCAPER WOULD HAVE TO WALK ONTO THEIR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY TO GET INTO THEIR BACKYARD. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THAT BIG A DEAL, BUT, UM, AS FAR AS THE EXPANSION OF THE DRIVEWAY AND NICK NET, A PERVIOUS SURFACE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          IF IN FACT, THAT IS WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO. 
          SO PUTTING ROWAN ASIDE FOR THE MOMENT, IT APPEARS TO COME DOWN TO WHETHER WE SUPPORT DIANE'S THOUGHT THAT IT SHOULD HAVE SCREENING THERE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY REASON FOR CHECKING OUT THE OTHER SIDE. 
          AM I CORRECT? I'M O BUT I'M OKAY WITH WHERE, WHERE I'M OKAY WITH THE PLAN, THE WAY THEY GAVE IT, PUTTING IN THE IMPERVIOUS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH, I'M FINE. 
          SO THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOOD ON THIS ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          OKAY. 
          RON, YOU CAN WRITE IT UP. 
          SINCE YOU ABSTAINED, , I'LL WRITE UP ANOTHER ONE. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET FOR THE DECISIONS FROM CAROL. 
          OKAY. 
           I'S SOME COMPUTER PROBLEM FOR A WHILE. 
          RON, I, I SENT ONE OUT IN THE LAST FIVE MINUTES. 
          PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU DON'T GET IT. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          I, I GOT IT, GARRETT, BUT IT'S ALL, SO I GUESS I'LL HAND WRITE IT. 
          ARE YOU THERE? YES. 
          OH, I THOUGHT I, I THOUGHT I, SHOULD I CONVERT IT TO A PDF? OH, I CAN BUILD IT INTO THE BODY OF AN EMAIL AS WELL. 
          IF, YEAH, IF YOU CAN SEND IT AS A, AS A WORD, LET ME JUST TYPE IT OUT. 
          THAT'LL BE GREAT. 
          'CAUSE UM, YOU KNOW, I, UH, LOST DATA AND ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF. 
          SO I JUST REALIZED I DIDN'T HAVE ONE, HAVE ONE OF THE OLD ONES. 
          NOW I CAN GET BACK TO WHERE I WAS. 
          SO WOULD WE JUST CONDITION IT THAT THEY PUT IN THE PREVIOUS PAPERS THERE? WE, YEAH, HERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? YES. 
          CHRISTIE, I'D APPRECIATE THAT. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THEM PUT THE PAPERS THEN, AS WE'VE REQUESTED, THEN CHRISTIE, I'LL PUT IT AS A CONDITION. 
          RIGHT? OKAY. 
          YES. 
          THEY HAVE IT ON THAT PLAN ON THE LAST ONE. 
          THAT ISN'T RIGHT. 
          IT'S ON THE PLAN. 
          IT'S ON THE PLAN. 
          ISN'T THERE A MORE DIFFICULT ONE FOR CHRISTIE TO DO ? NO, I'M GONNA GIVE THAT ONE TO YOU DEAR. 
          NO, I'LL DO THIS. 
          THAT'S A GOOD ONE. 
          THAT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR ECHO TONIGHT. 
          NEXT IS, UM, THE ANTENNA. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT DID MAKE CONCESSIONS REGARDING CERTAIN THINGS WITH RESPECT TO FENCING. 
          UM, HE PROVIDED THE FALL ZONE. 
          HE DID NOT REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE, THE, THE CODE WITH REGARD TO NOT BEING ABLE TO PUT IT ON THE ROOF, BUT HE KIND OF CLEANED THAT UP A BIT BY SAYING THAT IT WAS TOO HEAVY TO GO ON THE ROOF. 
          RIGHT. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANTENNAS ENOUGH TO SAY THAT THIS ANTENNA THAT HE HAS IS SOMETHING THAT IS OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT, MUCH MORE, UM, WEIGHTIER, SHALL WE SAY, THAN THE WAY ANTENNAS HAD BEEN IN THE PAST WHEN THE CODE WAS, WAS WRITTEN OR IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, HE SAID IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO GO UP ON TO GET UP ON A LADDER AND GO UP THERE TO PUT IT DOWN. 
          SO I THINK HE WAS ALSO SAYING THAT HE HAS AN, AN ANTENNA NOW, BUT IT ISN'T AS POWERFUL. 
          AND WHEN YOU WANT TO GO AS FAR ACROSS THE WORLD AS HE WANTS TO GO, THAT THEY GET HEAVIER AND BIGGER AND YOU, HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT IT ON THE ROOF. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S THE KIND OF THE WAY IT SOUNDED TO ME. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THE QUESTION IS, DOES THAT GIVE HIM, UM, THE REQUIRED HARDSHIP THAT HE WOULD NEED TO GET AROUND 
          [03:00:01]
THAT PORTION OF THE CODE? THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN, I DON'T THINK THE CODE REQUIRES IT TO BE ON THE ROOF EXCLUSIVELY. 
          IT SAYS I'M LOOKING FOR IT. 
          OR IN THE REAR YARD ABUTTING THE, THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE. 
          WELL, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY, HE EITHER BE ON THE ROOF RIGHT. 
          OR IN THE REAR YARD ABUTTING THE STRUCTURE. 
          SO FLOODING MEANS THAT IT HAS TO BE WITHIN A CERTAIN, BE WITHIN A CERTAIN, IT'S, IT USUALLY MEANS THAT IT'S ATTACHED TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          SIDE OF THE HOUSE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND HE DOESN'T WANT, DO YOU KNOW HIS HOUSE? WELL, I THINK WHAT IT IS IS THAT THERE'S A HORIZONTAL, UH, PORTION OF THIS, UH, OF THIS, UH, ANTENNA THAT IF IT FELL E EVEN IF IT WASN'T ATTACHED TO THE ROOF, IT COULD FALL ON THE, THE PANELS. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S HIS POSITION. 
          UH, UH DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THE A R B MISSIVE? UH, THAT, UH, I, I ONLY GOT IT AT SEVEN 30 TONIGHT OR SIX 30 FROM OH, I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, THE ONLY REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS THAT, UM, ONE OF THEIR MAJOR POINTS, IT SAYS OUR PRIMARY CONCERN IS THAT HE'S USING FENCING ON HIS NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENT. 
          WELL, THAT, THAT I, THAT WE SAW. 
          BUT HE WAS TRYING TO DEFEND THAT. 
          BUT HE THEN, I, I, AT LEAST THE WAY I INTERPRETED WHAT HE SAID WAS THAT HE WOULD BUILD THE FENCING STRUCTURE AROUND THE ANTENNA WITH A PURPOSE OF, IN HIS MIND AT LEAST, OF PREVENTING, UM, INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE ANTENNA BECAUSE OF THIS EIGHT FOOT FENCE THAT HE WOULD JUST PUT AROUND THE BASE OF THE ANTENNA. 
          DOES THAT REMOVE THE FACT THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO IN SCREEN IN THE ENTIRE AREA WHERE SOMETHING MIGHT FALL? I'M NOT SURE FROM WHAT THE A R B WROTE, UM, HOW THEY WOULD FEEL ABOUT THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          WELL, WE HAVE THAT QUESTION AND WE ALSO HAVE THE QUESTION OF WHERE HE DID NOT YET, UM, WHAT HE HASN'T HEARD FROM SAFETY. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. 
          AND WHAT ABOUT THE HEIGHT? IS THAT AN ISSUE? WEREN'T YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT IN YOUR EMAIL? YEAH, LIKE THE HEIGHT, HOW HIGH IS HIS ROOF? LIKE DOES HE NEED ANOTHER VARIANCE FOR HEIGHT? RIGHT. 
          I, WELL, ANTHONY DIDN'T SEE THAT. 
          ANTHONY'S WAITING. 
          I DIDN'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ANTHONY IS, I BELIEVE, ANTHONY, YOU'RE THERE YOU, ARE YOU STILL WAITING FOR SOMETHING WITH RESPECT TO THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF? YES. 
          WE, WE WERE DISCUSSING IT BACK AND FORTH AND IT APPEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE THE NEED TO ADD SPECIFICALLY IN THE DENIAL LETTER, THE HEIGHT FROM THE TOP OF THE ROOF TO THE 54 FEET. 
          YOU KNOW, THE, ACTUALLY I SHOULD SAY THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF PLUS SEVEN, A VARIANCE FOR THAT SPECIFIC HEIGHT. 
          DIFFERENT REACTION. 
          THAT AMOUNT DIFFERENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WERE DISCUSSING IT WITH, UH, AT LIEBERMAN. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, UH, HE SHOULD, HE SHOULD PROVIDE SOMETHING IN WRITING TO US, UH, THAT THE INTENT THAT HE HAS IS GONNA BE WAITING FOR THE ROOF. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO, UM, ANTHONY, UH, WOULD BE ABLE TO VERIFY THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M SORRY, RON. 
          I DIDN'T CATCH WHAT YOU SAID. 
          WHAT DID YOU SAY? I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO VERIFY. 
          WHAT HE'S SAYING IS, IS HIS STATEMENT THAT THE ANTENNA THAT HE HAS NOW WOULD BE TOO HEAVY FOR THE ROOF? WELL, THAT WOULD BE AN ENGINEER, BUT THEN WE ALSO, WE ALSO, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YEAH. 
          BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE ISSUE OF HIM SAYING THAT HE WOULD NOT, HE COULDN'T CRANK IT DOWN. 
          THERE WAS AN ISSUE OF CLIMBING UP ON THE ROOF TO CRANK IT DOWN ALSO. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THEY CAN LOOK, THEY, THEY CAN, THEY CAN DETERMINE THE WEIGHT OF HIS ANTENNA 'CAUSE HE HAS IT, HE CAN GET US THAT INFORMATION, THE WEIGHT OF THE ANTENNA AND WHOEVER THE ENGINEER IS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY HOW MUCH WEIGHT A ROOF CAN SUSTAIN WITHOUT IT BECOMING A RISK, YOU KNOW? WELL, I, I CAN TELL YOU THE BIGGEST CONCRETE, I CAN TELL YOU THE CONCRETE BASE OF THIS ANTENNA THAT'S HOLDING IT UP IN THE YARD. 
          [03:05:01]
YEAH. 
          HAVE A HOLD OUT WEIGHT. 
          IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. 
          OH YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT I FIGURED. 
          SO IT WOULD NEED A CONCRETE WEIGHT TO, TO BE ON THE ROOF ALSO. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          SEE, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I, I THINK THE SAFETY FACTOR OF WOULD BE MOUNTED TO THE CONCRETE BASE YEAH. 
          IS MUCH SAFER THAN BE MOUNTED TO THE ROOF. 
          WOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF WIRE STRUCTURE FOR IT BECAUSE, AND THEN HE'S GOT HIS SOLAR PANELS UP THERE. 
          IT'S MORE HIS SOLAR PANELS THAT ARE PREVENTING A LOT OF THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL HE, HE, HE DIDN'T EXPLAIN HOW IT WAS A RISK WITH THE SOLAR PANEL. 
          SO THAT'S NOT, HE'D SAID THAT EARLIER, BUT HE NEVER, HE NEVER EXPLAINED THAT. 
          HE JUST SAID, WELL, IT'S TOO HEAVY FOR THE ROOF. 
          SO, UM, THEN, THEN, THEN WELL, THEN NO, IN HIS WRITTEN PROPOSAL HE DID MENTION THE SOLAR PANELS. 
          IT WAS  ALSO, HE DID MENTION THAT THIS, THE ROOF WAS COVERED WITH SOLAR PANELS. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          LOOK, THE ISSUE ALSO MENTIONED SOMEWHERE IN THE MINUTIA OF DETAILS REGARDING THIS, ABOUT THE WEIGHT OF THE, UH, ANTENNA. 
          I JUST, THANK YOU. 
          CAN'T FIND IT. 
          NOW AGAIN, I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A TYPO BECAUSE I SAW SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT THE, THE CONCRETE BASE WOULD WEIGH 300,000 POUNDS. 
          THERE MAY HAVE WOW. 
          . 
          WOW. 
          OH, I'M NOT SAYING THAT, I'M NOT SAYING I THOUGHT IT WAS 30,000 POUNDS. 
          NO, NO, I I, IT'S PROBABLY A TYPO. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THAT HE, HE WAS, UH, USING HYPERBOLE. 
          BUT THE, THE ISSUE IS THIS, YES, IT MAY VERY WELL BE OR MAY NOT BE THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS OUTDATED. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE BOUND TO ENFORCE THE AS IS THE CODE. 
          AS IS THE CODE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THE FACT THAT YOU MAY BE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO GET A VARIANCE FROM THE HEIGHT AND FROM THE FENCE AND FROM, UH, THE OTHER, UH, THERE'S ONE OTHER ITEM IN THERE ABOUT YOU. 
          YOU CAN HAVE IT IN THE REAR YARD, NOT ATTACHED TO THE ROOF. 
          IF THE BOARD, IF THE BOARD FINDS THAT IT WOULD REASON UNREASONABLY INTERFERE WITH RECEPTION, I THINK THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT. 
          THE POINT IS HE CAN QUALIFY, YOU CAN REQUEST, OR WE CAN, THE TOWN CAN REQUEST THAT HE OBTAIN VARIANCES. 
          THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WHAT HE'S ALREADY SUBMITTED MIGHT NOT BE A REASON TO GRANT THE VARIANCE. 
          HE MAY NOT EVEN HAVE TO COME IN WITH ANYTHING ELSE, JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN USE TO GRANT THE VARIANCES AND MAKE IT LEGAL UNDER THE CODE THAT PRESENTLY EXISTS. 
          SO ANTHONY IS, SO ANTHONY, I, I, I'M HERE. 
          I MUST BE HEARING MY OWN ECHO. 
          UM, SO ANTHONY WILL BE LOOKING INTO, UH, THE HEIGHT VARIANCE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THEY WOULD, THEY WE DON'T KNOW THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          YES. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL REACH OUT FOR THE APPLICANT FOR THE HEIGHT OF, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S PERMITTED, SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE VARIANCE IS. 
          IT'S 50. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S PERMITTED BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE HEIGHT EXACTLY. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS. 
          PLUS SEVEN, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
           AND THEN, AND WHAT HAPPENED LAST MONTH THAT  AND, AND THE, AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH, NOW THERE'S THE O ALSO THE ISSUE WAS THE ISSUE OF FENCES. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. 
          AND HE HAS SAID THAT HIS NEIGHBORS HAVE ALL THESE FENCES. 
          THAT, THAT THERE'S NOTHING TO PREVENT YOU FROM GRANTING A VARIANCE FROM THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE FENCE, UH, THAT HE HAVE A, A FENCE PRESUMABLY ON HIS PROPERTY. 
          IF YOU FIND THAT THE FENCING THAT PRESENTLY EXISTS IS SUFFICIENT, AND THEN HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE EXPENSE OF PUTTING UP A NEW FENCE. 
          BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CODE. 
          BUT, AND I THINK HIS NEIGHBOR'S, BUT HIS NEIGHBOR'S FENCE IS ONLY FOUR FEET HIGH AND IT WOULD REQUIRE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE. 
          SO AT SOME PO WE'D HAVE TO GIVE A VARIANCE ON THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE ALSO. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT'S, AND EVEN A PORTION OF HIS FENCE IS NOT EIGHT FOOT EITHER. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT DOES HIM PUTTING UP THIS ENCLOSURE ON THE, AROUND THE BASE OF EIGHT FEET ACCOMPLISH HIM NOT HAVING TO DO ANY CHANGE ANY OF THE OTHER FENCING ON THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY? I BELIEVE IT WOULD, WITH THE ONE MINOR EXEMPTION IS THAT HE WOULD NEED A PORTION OF THAT EIGHT FOOT, THAT EIGHT FOOT, UM, RECTANGULAR OR SQUARE ENCLOSURE TO BE FOUR FEET SO THAT HE CAN ANGLE THE SYSTEM 
          [03:10:01]
DOWN WHEN IT'S NOT IN USE. 
          SO, UM, OH, I GOT THE IMPRESSION HE WOULD HAVE LIKE A GAIT STRUCTURE THAT IT WOULD OPEN UP SO HE WOULD BE ABLE TO DROP IT DOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, WELL WE CAN VERIFY THAT. 
          BUT TO THE EXTENT, YES, IF IT'S EIGHT FEET AROUND THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE, UM, ENCLOSURE, THAT WOULD SUFFICE BECAUSE THE INTENT OF THE FALL RADIUS IS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY, NOT WITHIN A FENCED IN AREA ON YOUR PROPERTY. 
          ALTHOUGH IN ESSENCE HE HAS THAT WITH, UM, VARYING HEIGHTS. 
          SO I BELIEVE SO WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK IF INDEED HE CAN, UM, ERECT EIGHT FOOT ENCLOSURE IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THE BASE OF THIS SYSTEM, UM, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD INDEED SUFFICE, UH, FOR THE SECURITY REQUIREMENT. 
          AND DOES HE STILL NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE CHECK FOR US THAT IS AT LEAST ANY SOURCE OF INTERFERENCE OR JUST GO BY WHAT HE HAD PRESENTED TO US? SO WE'LL, WE'LL REACH OUT TO POLICE. 
          UH, HE HAD INDICATED HE SPOKE WITH, UH, JOHN QUESO AND I, I PERSONALLY SPOKE WITH, UM, MIKE GRECO OF OUR RADIO, UH, DEPARTMENT. 
          AND, UM, YEAH, HE, HE INDICATED HE DID NOT FORESEE ANY ISSUES. 
          UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT ISSUES AROSE, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD CONDITION TO HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, RECTIFIED. 
          UM, BUT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, VERIFY THAT. 
          BUT I, I THINK THE APPLICANT DID A GOOD JOB, YOU KNOW, PROACTIVELY REACHING OUT TO POLICE. 
          UM, WE'LL GET SOMETHING FROM, UH, FIRE, OR I'M SORRY, UH, OUR RADIO COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I THINK WE CAN GET THAT WELL IN ADVANCE OF NEXT MEETING. 
          AND THE, THE TOWN ALSO HAS ANOTHER RESOURCE, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE ANTENNA EXPERT FOR THE A R B, NOT THE LAWYER, BUT THE, THE EXPERT THAT WE'VE USED ON OTHER CASES THE ZONING BOARD HAS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS ON FOR THE NEXT MEETING OF THE 18TH ALSO. 
          AND NEXT IS THE PROPERTY AT 23 SPRINGWOOD WITH THE STRANGE WITH THE STRANGE STREET. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD CERTAINLY SAY THAT THE APPLICANT TRIED TO DO A LOT TO, UH, DEMONSTRATE TO US HOW THIS, UH, ADDITION HAS TO BE DONE AND WHAT THE BENEFIT IS TO HIM, AS WELL AS NOT REALLY ANY DETRIMENT TO THE NEIGHBORS. 
          SO I, THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS IT'S NOT IMPORTANT TO, UH, OR THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          I ACTUALLY THOUGHT YOU RAISED A REALLY GOOD POINT. 
          UM, AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          AND PART OF THAT REASON IS 'CAUSE WHEN THEY SHARED EXAMPLES, THEY HAD ROOFTOP DECKS UP ON THERE. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORS, I THINK WE'D WANNA KNOW LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE THEY PLANNING TO DO WITH THE ROOF OF THE GARAGE? 'CAUSE IT IS ACTUALLY, UM, WILL BE LEVEL WITH THEIR PORCH AND OTHER AREAS. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE, I THOUGHT THEY SAID IT WAS SLOPE THOUGH. 
          SLOPE THOUGH. 
          I THINK HE, I THINK HE SAID A GABLE. 
          A GABLE. 
          HE DID. 
          OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. 
          NO, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY, THEY, IN FACT, THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T PUT A DECK ON IT BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE OTHER STRUCTURES THAT WOULD REDUCE THE, UH, ABILITY TO HAVE THE GARAGE IN THAT SPACE. 
          HMM. 
          OKAY. 
          CONTEMPLATE. 
          SO, I, I DON'T, PERSONALLY, TO ME IT WOULD BE MORE OF AN AESTHETIC THING THAN, THAN ANYTHING ELSE TO SEE HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK. 
          I, I, I'M NOT LOOKING TO SEE HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK, BUT THAT'S ME. 
          BUT I'M OPEN TO THOUGHTS TO THOUGHTS. 
          WELL, THERE IS A THING ABOUT HOW IT FITS INTO THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WELL, IT FITS IN BETTER THAN THE GARAGE THAT COMES OUT INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. 
          I MEAN, THE DRIVEWAY, I STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAVE SOME KIND OF A RENDERING OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING. 
          OKAY. 
          [03:15:01]
SO WE'LL ASK FOR RENDERING. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ONCE WE'VE GOT THREE OF YOU GOING FOR IT, LET'S GO FOR IT THEN. 
          ACCORDING TO THE WORLD, DID I DO WITH MY AGENDA IS PROBABLY IN ONE OF YOUR FOLDERS. 
          I KNOW. 
          I'M LOOKING THROUGH. 
          I KNOW I'M LOOKING THROUGH THEM. 
          SWEET LOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M LOOKING THROUGH THEM. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE, UM, ARE WE ASKING FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE RENDERING? IS THAT IT? UH, I'M ALL FOR IT. 
          UM, AS I THINK I STATED, YOU KNOW, I, I READ THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD'S, UM, UH, POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AND, UM, ALL OF THE RATIONALE THAT HE WAS SAYING THAT, THAT THE ARCHITECT WAS USING MADE ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M FOR IT. 
          I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SOME KIND OF MONSTROUS LOOKING, UM, GARAGE. 
          AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE ALL UP IN ARMS. THE NEIGHBORS WOULD BURN IT DOWN. 
          NEIGHBORS WOULD BURN IT DOWN. 
          , THEY JUMPED ON HIM FOR SOMETHING ELSE. 
          I'M SURE THEY'D JUMP ON HIM FOR THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO ENERGY. 
          HE BUILDS IT. 
          WE'RE REALLY GETTING INTO THIS WHOLE ENERGY THING NOW. 
          I'M GONNA HAVE TO  HAVE TO LEARN NEW STUFF. 
          THIS IS LIKE GOING BACK TO THOSE TELLER TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWERS. 
          IT'S LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? ANTHONY, YOU HAVE UH, ONE QUESTION. 
          UH, SINCE THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION IS GONNA BE ON RUSSELL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ISN'T RUSSELL PARTIALLY RESIDENTIAL? RUSSELL UP THE BLOCK? IT'S RESIDENTIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT'S NOT ANYWHERE NEAR OR BE VISIBLE TO RESIDENCES. 
          UH, POSSIBLY ACROSS THE STREET. 
          GARRETT, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SHARE AN AERIAL OR SOMETHING? IT KIND OF, THEY PROVIDED A MAP. 
          IT WAS ACTUALLY A QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK. 
          YEAH, I THINK, I THINK DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET IS COMMERCIAL, BUT DIAGONAL OFF THE BLOCK, IT STARTS TO BECOME YEAH, VERY CLOSE. 
          I'M SORRY, WHAT? I SAID IT'S VERY CLOSE. 
          YEAH, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S LIKE IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU LOOK STRAIGHT AHEAD, NO, IF YOU TURN YOUR HEAD SLIGHTLY TO THE RIGHT. 
          YES. 
          , NOW YOU'VE GOTTA MOVE IT UP TO THE LEFT A LITTLE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          SO SEE WHERE IT STARTS TO BECOME RESIDENTIAL AT YOUR QUESTION? NO  BUT FIRST HOUSE ON THAT SIDE. 
          YEAH. 
          BRING IT IN SOME GARRETT. 
          I SEE, I SEE THE HOUSES. 
          AND WHERE'S THIS, UH, INSTALLATION? RIGHT THERE, RIGHT IN THAT LITTLE PIECE THERE. 
          AND THE WHAT ABOUT ON THE, UH, ACROSS THE STREET ON THE CORNER, THAT ODD SHAPED THE COMMERCIAL? THAT'S COMMERCIAL. 
          THAT'S COMMERCIAL. 
          THE, THE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HOUSES, THAT'S, UH, POLAND'S BRAIN. 
          THAT'S NOT A LITTLE PIECE. 
          UH, WHEN YOU SAID THAT, IT'S LIKE THAT WHOLE AREA WHERE THAT GOLD LINE IS FROM THE ORANGE ALL THE WAY ALMOST TO, UH, WHERE THAT WHITE CAR IS ON THE, ON THE RIGHT. 
          ALL THOSE SERVERS RUNNING A, A LINE PARALLEL WITH THAT GOLD LINE THAT'S, UH, PARALLEL TO RUSSELL STREET. 
          SO RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS THE LOT THAT, UM, I FORGET WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO YEAH, WE HAD OR TRUCKS IN THERE OR SOMETHING. 
          WAS IT ROWAN? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY WERE TRYING TO CREATE A COMMERCIAL YARD. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND IT'S STILL A RESIDENTIAL LOT, BUT RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS WHERE THIS IS GOING. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YOU MIGHT WANNA CALL THE SCREEN USED TO BE AND WHO ELSE WAS THERE? YES, YES. 
          YOU, YOU JUST MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT REQUIRING LANDSCAPING SCREENING, EXCEPT I 
          [03:20:01]
ASSUME EVERYTHING ON THIS SIDE OF THE FENCE IS TOWN PROPERTY. 
          IT DID SAY IN THE PRE, IT DID SAY IN THE PRISON, GONNA SCREEN THE FENCE AROUND IT FOR BOTH NOISE. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY SAID THEY WOULD PUT UP, UM, WHAT DID THEY CALL IT? I GUESS IT'S THOSE THINGS. 
          YOU LIKE THE LATTICE AND THE FENCES? THE LATTICE AND THE FENCE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT I WOULD, WHAT I DIDN'T ASK IS HOW HIGH THESE UH, SERVERS ARE. 
          IS IT, SAY, IT MAY SAY IT. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF IN HERE. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          ARE THERE ANY SPECS IN HERE ANYWHERE ON THESE? THEY DON'T HAVE A PERSON SITTING, SITTING NEXT TO THEM, SO IT'S HARD TO SAY. 
          OH, I'M ON MUTE. 
          , I'VE BEEN ON MUTE. 
          UM, SO WITH REGARD TO LANDSCAPING, THE VIEW SHEDS, WE'LL REQUEST THAT QUESTION. 
          UH, AND SPECIFICALLY, UH, VIEW SHEDS FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          PLANNING BOARD HAD THIS ON AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, LAST NIGHT. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE IT ON PERHAPS AT THEIR NEXT MEETING. 
          THEY HAD ASKED SOME INITIAL QUESTIONS AND ALSO ASKED FOR THE C A C TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE APPLICATION. 
          SO, UM, C A C WILL BE LOOKING AT IT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, UM, TYPE, UH, PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE INDICATED THEY WILL SEND FINDINGS FOLLOWING THAT MEETING. 
          SO I THINK IN ADVANCE OF THE NEXT MEETING, YOU WILL HAVE HEARD FROM THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL AS THE C A C, BUT WE, WE'LL GET YOU THE, THE HEIGHT INFO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE REALLY CAN'T RENDER A DECISION TONIGHT ANYWAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND ADJOURNING, WE'LL POSE THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIEW SHEDS AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHERS FROM THE BOARD. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT DID SUPPLY A GOOD AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ABOUT NOISE MITIGATION. 
          UM, BUT YES, THE PLANNING BOARD INTENDS TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS, AND WE DO NOT HAVE THAT AT PRESENT. 
          OKAY. 
          HAVE THEY DONE THE SEEKER? IT'S ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A, I BELIEVE TYPE TWO ACTION. 
          UH, BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT THE CABINETS ARE LESS THAN, UH, 4,000 SQUARE FEET NON-RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE. 
          SO IT'S SUBJECT TO, UH, SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THE PLANNING BOARD, AS WELL AS, UH, THE VARIANCES BEFORE THIS BOARD. 
          SO SEEKER IS TYPE TWO. 
          IT, IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE DRAWINGS, IT APPEARS TO BE SEVEN FEET IN HEIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY THEY LOOKED HIGHER THAN A CAR. 
          WELL, SO THEN THEY CAN'T PUT IT ON THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION , AND THEY MIGHT BE A LITTLE HEAVY FOR THE ROOF. 
          NO, I DIDN'T MEAN THE, I DIDN'T MEAN THE ANTENNA. 
          I MEANT THE, UH, THE DRIVEWAY. 
          OH, . 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M SORRY, ED. 
          I WAS LAUGHING, BUT I'M ON MUTE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NEXT IS, UM, SOMETHING A LITTLE EASIER. 
           ONE HIGH VIEW, WHICH IS TO REDUCE THE, UH, SETBACK BECAUSE OF THE NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT THE SECOND FLOOR OVER THE, UM, EXISTING GARAGE. 
          GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A NEW, A NEW DECISION. 
          SO I STARTED DOING THIS ONE. 
          SUCH IT SO EASY. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I CAN'T MAKE OUT THE NEW, THE NEW LANGUAGE HERE, UM, UNDER WHAT I JUST GOT TODAY. 
          SO I'LL USE THE OLD ONE, BUT I'M GOOD WITH IT. 
          STRAW VOTE GRANT. 
          [03:25:02]
YES, ME TOO. 
          I'M GOOD WITH IT ALSO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S GREAT. 
          I ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY LIKED THE WAY, UH, THE ARCHITECT, UM, DID, MADE THAT SPLIT LEVEL INTO SOMETHING OF SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME AESTHETIC VALUE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU LOUIS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY TO DO. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I THOUGHT THE DESIGN WHEN I FIRST REVIEWED IT, I THOUGHT WAS VERY GOOD. 
          YEP. 
          IT LOOKED REALLY NICE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AND NEXT IS THE LITTLE HOUSE ON BRYANT AVENUE IN ELMSFORD. 
          GOOD. 
          WHERE THEY'RE OPENING UP THE, UH, ATTIC. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, GOOD AS WELL. 
          SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO SAY TO SUDDENLY PERMIT THIS THIRD STORY? WELL, WELL, YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THE FACT, THE NEED FOR THE VARIANCE IS THAT THE BASEMENT HAS MORE THAN SIX FEET EXPOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          MEANT THE FIRST LEVEL THERE IS CONSTITUTING A STORY ON THE HOUSE. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD ADD TO. 
          AND THE FACT THAT IT'S WITHIN THE HEIGHT, THE PERMITTED HEIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE  OF THE TOWN THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE HEIGHT. 
          DIANE, YOU CAN DO THIS ONE. 
          ANTHONY'S TELLING YOU EVERYTHING TO WRITE. 
          GO FOR IT. 
          GO FOR IT. 
          SO THE ONLY THING I SAW STRANGE, AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASE, IS THAT YOU WALK IN, WALKED INTO THE LIVING ROOM, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WALK DOWNSTAIRS TO GET TO THE KITCHEN. 
          I, I'M ASSUMING, BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE PLAN AT ALL, IT JUST SHOWED WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO UPSTAIRS, BUT NOT WHAT YOU GO DOWNSTAIRS. 
          BUT ON THE MAIN FLOOR IT'S ALL BEDROOMS AND A LIVING ROOM. 
          NO DINING ROOM OR KITCHEN. 
          SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ON THE LOWER LEVEL. 
          YES. 
          WELL, IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE A MODERN HOUSE. 
          THE WAY, THE WAY SOMEBODY FIXED IT UP OR A HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1940. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DIANA, YOU GOOD OR NOT? UH, WELL THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE IS MY COMPUTER IS STARTING TO CRASH. 
          UH, SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS WORD DOCUMENT OPEN. 
          IF I CAN'T, I WOULD HAVE TO RESTART AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT ME TO RESTART MY COMPUTER. 
          OKAY. 
          WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE LAST CASE THAT WE HAVE ON, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY AT SELMA RIVER ROAD, UM, THAT WE KNOW HAS TO BE ADJOURNED. 
          SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ON IT? UM, WELL, YES, I HAVE FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE THAT THE REASON WHY THE TOWN IS GIVING THEM SUCH A HARD TIME IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET THAT BUILDING BACK AS THE NEW TOWN HALL. 
          WHAT? HE'S JOKING, THAT'S WHY HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS VIDEO UP. 
          THAT'S WHY DOESN'T HAVE HIS VIDEO UP , BECAUSE I'M DYING WITH LAUGHTER RIGHT NOW. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU SURE THAT DON'T MEAN ELSEWHERE. 
          WANTS TO HAVE THEIR TOWN HALL THERE. 
          TOWN HALL THERE. 
          THE VILLAGE HALL. 
          THE, THE VILLAGE. 
          I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT HISTORICALLY. 
          THAT WAS ONCE THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TOWN HALL. 
          YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST TOWN HALL, PROBABLY IN THE STATE . 
          SO OTHER THAN THAT, THAT ONE WOULD BE ADJOURNED. 
          I KNOW, I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I WAS THERE . 
          THAT WAS WHERE ED INTERVIEWED  . 
          OKAY. 
          ED. 
          NOW I'M REALLY LAUGHING. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT, DIANE, HOW ARE YOU DOING THERE? I'M WRITING. 
          OH, LET ME SEE IF IT'LL SAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND NOW, NOW IT'S STUCK AGAIN. 
          IT WON'T SAVE. 
          [03:30:01]
SORRY GUYS. 
          SORRY GUYS. 
          THANK YOU ROHAN. 
          BECAUSE I WAS GONNA WRITE UP THAT, UM, HIGHVIEW DRIVE CASE FOR, WELL, I'M JUST BACK, SO I FIGURED I THINK A EASY ONE, LUKE. 
          SORRY MAN. 
          SO LUKE, CAN YOU DO THE ONE THEN ON 2 31 BRYANT, SINCE YOU WALKED IN THERE AND WENT DOWN THE STEPS? I HATE LOOKING AT YOUR PICTURE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXCUSE ME. 
          I SAID I DON'T LIKE, AH, . 
          THERE HE GOES. 
          NO, I WAS ASKING YOU, CAN YOU PICK UP THE SLACK FOR DIANE TONIGHT? SHAKING YOUR HEAD. 
          I'M TALKING YOU'RE NOT, NOT UNMUTING DIANE. 
          AREN'T YOU ALREADY WRITING IT? YEAH, BUT IT WON'T SAY CAN'T SAVE, CAN'T SAVE. 
          OR COMPUTERS ACTING UP? COMPUTERS ACTING UP. 
          REALLY, REALLY? OKAY. 
          YEAH, BUT CAN NO, NO, REALLY. 
          ARE YOU SERIOUS? YES, I'M REALLY SERIOUS. 
          I'M REALLY SERIOUS. 
          OKAY. 
          I I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE OF WRITING IT. 
          I DID, BUT THEN IT WON'T SAVE. 
          SO HOW WOULD I SEND IT TO YOU? SEND IT TO YOU SO SHE'LL REPEAT IT TO YOU. 
          SHE'LL REPEAT IT TO YOU. 
          . 
          REALLY? YOU CAN'T SAVE IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, CAN YOU EMAIL IT TO ME? CAN'T IF I CAN'T SAVE IT. 
          I CAN'T. 
          YOU CAN'T SAVE IT. 
          I CAN'T EMAIL. 
          I CAN'T SAVE THE DOCUMENT. 
          YOU CAN'T SAVE THE DOCUMENT. 
          I'M STILL TRYING NOW. 
          STILL TRYING. 
          NOW HAS ANYONE NOTICED THESE LAST FEW DAYS THERE'S BEEN ISSUES WITH INTERNET AND COMPUTERS REBOOTING AND ALL KINDS OF CRAZINESS GOING ON? UH, DIANE, AM I WRITING THIS OR NOT? YES. 
          YOU'RE WRITING IT? YES, YOU'RE WRITING IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, EVE, SO GETTING BACK TO P BRODSKY'S IS BEING ADJOURNED, CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I DID SAY THAT MADAM CHAIRMAN, IS THIS AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR STRATUS TO MAKE A COMMENT? NO, I'M SORRY IT ISN'T. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO WRITE UP SOMETHING AND SEND IT IN. 
          WE ARE NOT ON THE RECORD. 
          SO MADAM CHAIRMAN, THIS IS JUST A POINT OF INFORMATION AND I WILL WRITE IT UP AND SEND IT IN. 
          BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT I WOULD NOT, I WOULD NOT APPRECIATE YOU CONTINUING TO BE HONEST. 
          OKAY? FINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF YOU GUYS ARE ALL GOOD, I'M GONNA SAY GOOD EVENING. 
          OKAY, ANTHONY? GOOD. 
          [03:35:15]
MADAM CHAIRMAN, THIS IS PETER STRATUS. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU'RE OFF THE RECORD. 
          I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET READY SO WE CAN GO BACK ON THE RECORD. 
          I HAVE THINGS I HAVE TO WRITE UP. 
          PETER, YOU CAN CALL ME AT MY DESK LINE IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION. 
          IF YOU COULD MUTE AND CALL ME AT MY COM. 
          UH, MY, MY WORK LINE. 
          I'M SORRY, WHICH LINE IS THAT? I'LL, UH, OKAY. 
          9 8 9 1 5 3 2. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I FIGURED THAT WAS WITH MY COMPUTER. 
          IT STARTED DOING AUTOMATIC UPDATES. 
          UHHUH, YOU'VE GOTTA TELL IT TO NOT DO THAT UNTIL FOUR IN THE MORNING. 
          I, I'LL HAVE TO TURN THEM OFF. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          [03:43:37]
EVERYBODY GIVE ME A THUMBS UP WHEN YOU'RE READY. 
          I'M READY. 
          I'M READY. 
          GIVE ME A MOMENT. 
          I HAD A LEAD START. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          WE WERE SLOW GETTING OUT OF THE GATE, BUT WE CAUGHT UP. 
          [03:48:00]
WHAT DID HE WANNA SAY? WHOA. 
          OH, WE'RE READY? NO, WE WERE WAITING FOR OH, OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT WAS IT. 
          I HEARD. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO DID YOU ALL SEE THE NEW ROYAL CARIBBEAN ROUND THE WORLD 274 DAY CRUISE THAT THEY'RE SELLING NOW? NO, ALL SEVEN CONTINENTS. 
          SEE IF YOU ARE A ROYAL CARIBBEAN, WHATEVER, YOU WOULD'VE GOTTEN THE EMAIL RIGHT AWAY. 
          . 
          THAT'S A LONG TIME . 
          IT'S A LONG TIME. 
          IT'S 274 DAYS, BUT THEY INCLUDE ALL OF YOUR GRATUITIES. 
          DO YOU HAVE YOUR WASH AND FOLD LAUNDRY DONE? UM, I THINK THE DRINKS ARE INCLUDED. 
          OH MY GOD. 
          WHAT ELSE DID THEY ALL OFFER? THEY NEED PEOPLE TO GO ON CRUISES NOW. 
          WELL, THEY'RE TRYING TO, IT'S IT'S SLATED FOR 2023 TO 2024. 
          SO THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD UP SOME BUZZ, I GUESS. 
          DO THEY THINK THERE'S GONNA BE ALL THIS PENT UP DEMAND TO GO ON THE CRUISES? SO THEY NEED, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE READY TO GO, TO BE HONEST. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO USED TO CRUISE. 
          THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY DID. 
          RIGHT MA'AM? I THINK IT'S $70,000. 
          MAYOR PITNEY. 
          ALRIGHT, 
          [03:50:01]
I'M READY. 
          OKAY, I'M READY. 
          GARRETT, I THINK WE'RE READY. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO I, I BELIEVE, UM, WE'RE STILL LIVE HERE, SO I THINK YOU CAN START, BUT JUST GIMME TWO SECONDS. 
          I'M GONNA CALL DOWN TO GEORGE TO JUST ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND ARE YOU BACK? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL SET. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, GARRETT, WHAT DON'T WE DO? IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LOU, HE CAN READ. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT TYPE, WHAT TYPE OF PROBLEM WOULD THAT BE? ECHO . 
          HE CAN READ. 
          IT'S JUST AS LONG AS YEAH, AS LONG AS UH, LOUIS IS THE ONLY ONE SPEAKING, IT'LL BE JUST FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL NO INTERRUPTIONS FOR SIR, SIR LEWIS. 
          SO LOU, FROM THE REST OF THIS MEETING, IT'S ALL ON YOU . 
          I WILL STAY MUTED UNTIL IT'S MY TURN. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S YOUR TURN. 
          . 
          WELL I DO HAVE TO SAY YAY OR NAY, RIGHT? YES YOU DO. 
          DID GARRETT SAY WE'RE ON YET? YEAH. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          GOOD TO GO. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          AND WE ARE BACK AFTER HAVING HAD OUR DELIBERATIONS ON THE CASES THAT WE UM, HAD HEARING ON THIS A ON THIS EVENING AND WITH RESPECT TO CASE 2111 PROPERTY AT LAUREL STREET HARTSDALE, THAT HAS BEEN ADJOURNED FOR ALL PURPOSES TO THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 18TH AND FOR THE CASE 2123 FOR PROPERTY AT 38 SPRING VALLEY ROAD DALE, THAT HAS, HAS A RESOLUTION THAT I WILL READ WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE-REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO SECRET A COMPLIANCE AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS DETERMINED THE APPLICATION WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE APPLICATION IS A TYPE TWO ACTION RE REQUIRING NO FURTHER SECRET A CONSIDERATION. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          THANK YOU CHRISTIE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR VOTES. 
          AYE. 
          AND DO I HAVE A MOTION? AYE. 
          YES. 
          I MOVE THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE NUMBER 2123 BE GRANTED PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT WILL OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGIN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER. 
          IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATED OCTOBER 8TH, 2021 SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION, THE VARIANCES BEING GRANTED ARE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN ON THE PLANS SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION. 
          ONLY ANY FUTURE OR ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK, OR OTHER VARIANCES. 
          WE HAVE APPROVED HEREIN FURTHER THAT THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS SHALL BE MET. 
          THE APPLICANT SHALL PAVE THE PORTION OF THE DRIVEWAY ADJACENT TO THE RETAINING WALL WITH PERVIOUS PAVERS AS IS ILLUSTRATED IN THE REVISED PLANS DATED OCTOBER 8TH, 2021. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ABSTAIN. 
          ABSTAIN. 
          CHAIR VOTES AYE FINDINGS IN GRANTING THIS APPLICATION, THE ZONING BOARD HAS WEIGHED THE BENEFIT TO BE DERIVED BY THE APPLICANT FROM THE PROPOSED VARI VARIANCE AGAINST THE IMPACT THAT THE VARIANCE WOULD HAVE ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE HAVE FOUND THAT GRANTING THE AREA VARIANCE TO LEGALIZE 609 SQUARE FEET OF DRIVEWAY WILL NOT RESULT IN A DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES AND WILL NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OR PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DISTRICT. 
          BECAUSE THE ASPHALT DRIVEWAY 
          [03:55:01]
IS SIMILAR TO OTHER DRIVEWAYS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ADDITION OF PERVIOUS PAVERS REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ON THE SITE WHICH IMPROVES STORMWATER RUNOFF AND DRAINAGE CONDITIONS. 
          THERE ARE NO OTHER SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCES. 
          UH, TWO. 
          THE GOAL OF THE APPLICANT CANNOT BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER FEASIBLE MEANS WITHOUT REQUIRING THE VARIANCE WE ARE GRANTING BECAUSE WITHOUT THE REQUESTED EXPANSION OF THE DRIVEWAY, INCLUDING THE OUS PAVERS, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE UNABLE TO PULL INTO THEIR GARAGE WITHOUT DRIVING ONTO THEIR SIDE YARD AND CAUSING A MUDDY, UNSAFE AND UNATTRACTIVE CONDITION. 
          THE REQUESTED AREA VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL IN RELATION TO THE REQUIREMENTS OUGHT TO BE VARIED. 
          THE REQUESTED RELIEF FOR THE SIDE YARD SETBACK IS 3.68 FEET OR 16 SQUARE FEET. 
          16 FEET SORRY. 
          IS REQUIRED A 70 SE 77% DECREASE IN THE SIDE YARD SETBACK. 
          HOWEVER, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE APPLICANT COMPLIES WITH THE LOCK COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS SPECIFIED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, COMPLIES WITH THE HEIGHT OH AND THE HEIGHT OF AN EXISTING RETAINING WALL SCREENS THE DRIVEWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBOR HAS NO OBJECTED. 
          OBJECTION TO THE REQUESTED VARIANCE. 
          THE APPLICANT'S NEED FOR THE VARIANCE WAS SELF-CREATED BECAUSE THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          HOWEVER, THE FACT THAT AN APPLICANT'S NEED FOR AN AREA VARIANCE IS SELF-CREATED DOES NOT BY ITSELF REQUIRE US TO DENY AN AREA VARIANCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE NEXT CASE IS CASE 2125, WHICH IS ALSO ADJOURNED FOR ALL PURPOSES TO THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 18TH. 
          NEXT CASE IS CASE 2127 PROPERTY 23 SPRINGWOOD AVENUE. 
          THAT IS ALSO ADJOURNED TO THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 18TH FOR ALL PURPOSES. 
          THE NEXT CASE IS CASE 2126 PROPERTY AT 1 51 SOUTH FULTON STREET, WHICH ALSO IS ADJOURNED TO THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 18TH FOR ALL PURPOSES. 
          THE NEXT CASE IS CASE 2128 PROPERTY AT ONE HIGHVIEW DRIVE AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE-REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH, WITH REGARD TO SECRET A COMPLIANCE AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS DETERMINED THE APPLICATION WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A TYPE TWO ACTION REQUIRING NO FURTHER SECRET A CONSIDERATION. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          CHAIR VOTES. 
          AYE. 
          AND DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES MADAM CHAIR. 
          I MOVED OUT THE APPLICATION IN CASE NUMBER 2128 BE GRANTED PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT OBTAINED ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE SAME WITH THE BILLING DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGIN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANT. 
          ENOUGH LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATE STAMPED BY THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS DATED SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2021. 
          SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION OR AS SUCH, PLANS MAY HEREAFTER, UH, MODIFIED BY ANOTHER APPROVING BOARD OR AGENCY OR AN OFFICER OF THE TOWN PROVIDED THAT SUCH MODIFICATION DOES NOT REQUIRE DIFFERENT OR GREATER VARIANCE THAN WHAT WE ARE GRANTING HEREIN THE VARIANCE BEING GRANTED CLARIFI FOR THE IMPROVEMENT SHOWN ON THE PLAN SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION ONLY IN A FUTURE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK OR OTHER VARIANCES. 
          WE ARE, WE HAVE APPROVED HEARING I A SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          CARE VOTES AYE. 
          FINDINGS GRANTED THIS APPLICATION, THE ZONING BOARD HAS WEIGHED THE BENEFIT TO BE DERIVED BY THE APPLICANT FROM THE PROPOSED VARIANCE AGAINST THE IMPACT THAT THE VARIANCE SHOULD HAVE ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE HAVE FOUND THAT NUMBER ONE, UH, GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL NOT RESULT IN DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES AND WILL NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OF PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE DISTRICT. 
          UH, THE APPLICANT IS MERELY ADDING A SECOND STORY OVER AN EXISTING STRUCTURE ABOVE THE GARAGE. 
          THE APPLICANT RECEIVED A VARIANCE FOR THIS STRUCTURE IN 1981. 
          THE ADDITION IS NOT INCREASING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPERTY OR DISTURBING ANY SLOPES, WETLANDS, TREES, OR LANDSCAPE. 
          NUMBER TWO, THE GOAL OF THE APPLICANT CANNOT BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER FEASIBLE MEANS WITHOUT REQUIRING A VARIANCE. 
          WE GRANTING ADDING THE SECOND STORY OVER AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT RECEIVED THE VARIANCE AS THE MOST 
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FEASIBLE MEANS OF ACHIEVING THE A. 
          THE GOAL OF THE APPLICANT. 
          THE APPLICANT WOULD REQUIRE FOUNDATION WORK IF THE ADDITION IS IN THE REAR AND THE INTERIOR DESIGN WOULD'VE LIMITATIONS THE APPLICANT WILL NOT HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE ADDITION IF IT IS MOVED TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          NUMBER THREE, THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS SUBSTANTIAL RELATION TO THE REQUIREMENTS SOUGHT TO BE VARIED IN THAT THE REQUESTED RELIEF IS NINE FEET COMPARED TO 12 FEET REQUIRED A 25% DECREASE UH, IN ONE SIDE YARD AND UH, 15% DECREASE IN UH, TWO SIDES ON TWO SIDES. 
          NUMBER FOUR, THE APPLICANT'S NEED FOR THE VARIANCE, UH, WAS SELF-CREATED OR THE NEED THE APPLICANT'S NEED FOR A VARIANCE WAS SELF GRADE. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          THE APPLICANT'S FEE FOR VARIANCE WAS SELF-CREATED BECAUSE HE PURCHASED A PROPERTY WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          HOWEVER, THE FACT THAT AN APPLICANT'S NEED FOR VARIANCE IS SELF-CREATED DOES NOT BY ITSELF REQUIRES TO DENY AN AREA OF VARIANCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE NEXT CASE IS CASE 2129. 
          AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS REVIEWED THE ABOVE-REFERENCED APPLICATION WITH REGARD TO C A COMPLIANCE AND WHEREAS THE GREENBERG Z B A HAS DETERMINED THE APPLICATION WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE SUBJECT APPLICATION IS A TYPE TWO ACTION REQUIRING NO FURTHER SECRET CONSIDERATION. 
          ALL DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION? DO HAVE A MOTION? I DO. 
          MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE APPLICATION IN CASE NUMBER 21 DASH 29 BE GRANTED PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICANT OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY APPROVALS AND FILE SAME WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THAT CONSTRUCTION SHALL BEGIN NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER THE GRANTING OF THE LAST APPROVAL REQUIRED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT AND PROCEED DILIGENTLY THEREAFTER IN CONFORMITY WITH THE PLANS DATED JULY 6TH, 2021 AND REISSUED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2021. 
          SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION OR AS SUCH, PLANS MAY BE HEREAFTER MODIFIED BY ANOTHER APPROVING BOARD OR AGENCY OR OFFICER OF THE TOWN. 
          PROVIDED THAT SUCH MODIFICATION DOES NOT REQUIRE A DIFFERENT OR GREATER VARIANCE IN WHAT WE ARE GRANTING HERE IN AND THAT THE VARIANCE BEING GRANTED IS FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN ON THE PLANS SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION. 
          ONLY ANY FUTURE OR ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE SHALL REQUIRE VARIANCES EVEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONFORMS TO THE HEIGHT, SETBACK OR OTHER VARIANCES WE HAVE APPROVED HEREIN. 
           DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          VOTES. 
          AYE. 
          VOTE TIE. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION GRANT? MOTION UH, FINDINGS IN GRANTING THIS APPLICATION, THE ZONING BOARD HAS WEIGHED THE BENEFIT TO BE DERIVED BY THE APPLICANT FROM THE PROPOSED VARIANCE AGAINST THE IMPACT THAT THE VARIANCE WOULD HAVE ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE HAVE FOUND THAT GRANTING THE VARIANCE WILL NOT RESULT IN A DETRIMENT TO NEARBY PROPERTIES AND WILL NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE CHARACTER OR PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DISTRICT BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE HOUSE IS BEING RAISED TO A THREE STORY HOUSE, SINCE THE LOWER LEVEL IS HALF AND HALF IS HALF IN AND HALF OUTTA THE GROUND, THE THIRD LEVEL IS THE SAME APPROXIMATE HEIGHT OF A TWO AND A HALF STORY STRUCTURE AND THEREFORE WILL NOT PRODUCE AN UNDESIRABLE CHANGE TO NEARBY PROPERTIES. 
          THE GOAL OF THE APPLICANT CANNOT BE ACHIEVED BY SOME OTHER FEASIBLE MEANS WITHOUT REQUIRING A VARIANCE. 
          WE ARE GRANTING NOW BECAUSE THE MAIN LEVEL ALREADY HAS THE LIVING ROOM, THREE BEDROOMS AND A BATH. 
          THE LOWER LEVEL HAS A KITCHEN AND A DINING ROOM. 
          SO THE ONLY WAY TO PROVIDE THE NEEDED ADDITIONAL SPACE IS TO CREATE THE DORMANT THIRD LEVEL. 
          THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL IN RELATION TO THE REQUIREMENTS SOUGHT TO BE VARIED IN THAT THE REQUESTED RELIEF IS ONE HALF STORY, THREE STORIES COMPARED WITH TWO AND A HALF REQUIRED STORIES. 
          THE APPLICANT'S NEED FOR THE VARIANCE WAS SELF-CREATED BECAUSE SHE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          HOWEVER, THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT'S NEED FOR AN AREA OF VARIANCE IS SELF-CREATED 
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DOES NOT BY ITSELF REQUIRE US TO DENY AN AREA OF VARIANCE. 
          YOU ARE ON MUTE. 
          I'M ON MUTE BECAUSE I WAS ECHOING BEFORE SO, AND WITH THAT I BELIEVE WE HAVE FINISHED OUR PROCEEDINGS FOR THE EVENING. 
          THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. 
          I PROMISED YOU YOU HAD SUMMER. 
          I'M NOT THINKING THEY PROMISE FOR NEXT MONTH'S WEATHER THOUGH THOUGH. 
          THIS IS THE RECORD WE DISCUSS. 
          21. 
          WHAT DID YOU SAY ROWAN DID? THIS IS THE RECORD. 
          DISCUSS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          FOUR AND A HALF HOURS. 
          FOUR AND A HALF HOURS. 
          WELL RECORD STOPPED. 
          WE'RE EMERGING OUTTA THE LOUIS MADE THE POINT. 
          DID YOU DO? UH, 2130. 
          OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          RECORDING IN PROGRESS. 
          YES. 
          WE'RE BACK ON RECORD. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I OVERLOOKED 2130, WHICH IS ADJOURNED FOR ALL PURPOSES TO THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 18TH. 
          AND WITH THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR EVENING. 
          THANK YOU ALL . 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GOODNIGHT. 
          BE WELL. 
          BYE-BYE. 
          RECORDING STOPPED. 
          LOVE EVERYONE.
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