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YOU'RE ON KANSAS.SO DO I JUST BEGIN? YES, GO AHEAD.
SO WE WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS SO THAT IN REGARDS TO THE MULTIPLE ISSUES THAT, THAT AND CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN NORTH ELMSWORTH, THE SECTION OF GREENBURG THAT YOU GUYS, UM,
SO ONE OF OUR MAIN ISSUES, AS YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE, IS THE DELI ON PAIN STREET.
UM, THE DELI IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY.
IT DOESN'T SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY.
IT PERPETUATES, UM,
UM, IT ALLOWS FOR ELEMENTS TO STAND OUTSIDE, TO HANG OUT ALL TIMES OF NIGHT THAT WE DO NOT WANT IN, IN THE AREA.
UM, IF WE GO ACROSS THE STREET TO THE PARK, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO SOME MODIFICATIONS AND ENFORCE CERTAIN THINGS.
SO WE HAVE THESE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE HANGING OUT THERE FROM ANY TIME, FROM SIX IN THE MORNING TO THREE IN THE MORNING.
UM, THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHEN I'VE INUNDATED, UH, THE CHIEF AND PAUL FINER WITH, WITH SOUND, WITH MUSIC COMING FROM IN FRONT OF THE PARK AND IN FRONT OF THE DELI AT TWO, THREE IN THE MORNING.
UM, THEY HAVE FROM FIVE PEOPLE HANGING OUT THERE TO 25 PEOPLE HANGING OUT THERE AT TIMES.
WHEN I DROVE UP THE STREET TO COME HERE TODAY, THERE WERE ALREADY SIX PEOPLE IN THE RAIN STANDING OUT THERE.
UH, WE HAVE MARIJUANA BEING SMOKED.
KIDS ARE GETTING OFF BUSES AT THREE O'CLOCK AND THEY'RE BEING MET WITH SMOKE.
SO THE FEDERAL MANDATE, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IS THAT UNLESS I KNOW, UNLESS I'M I, I KNOW SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
IS THAT A HUNDRED FEET FROM A PLAYGROUND? THERE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANY MARIJUANA SMOKE, BUT IT'S HAPPENING.
THERE'S OPEN BOTTLES, THERE'S LIQUOR ALL THE TIME.
UM, THERE'S LOUD MUSIC, THERE'S PROFANITY.
SO EVERYTHING THAT THE PARK IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT, RECREATION AND WHOLESOME IS BEING VIOLATED BY THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE STANDING IN FRONT, WHICH IS CAUSING THE PARK NOT TO BE USED.
I HAVE A 10 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.
SHE DOESN'T EVEN WANNA WALK THE PUPPY IN FRONT OF PAST THE PARK TO WALK AROUND.
AND THIS IS HOW EVERYONE IS FEELING AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT.
SO, IN SPEAKING WITH ALL THE, THEY SAID THAT THERE ARE SOME REGULATIONS THAT CAN'T, UM, ALLOW FOR ENFORCEMENT 'CAUSE THE SEWER IS OVER THERE.
WELL, WE'RE ASKING THAT PARKING REGULATIONS BE ENFORCED.
THAT OPEN BOTTLE, UM, LAWS BE ENFORCED, THAT LOITERING IN FRONT OF THE PARK BE ENFORCED.
THE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE BY THE TOWN WE ARE, WE ARE SAYING THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, ANOTHER FACTOR IS THAT STORE IS NOT EVEN A STORE.
IT'S A, IT'S A ONE FAMILY DWELLING THAT'S BEEN PASSED ON FROM OWNER TO OWNER AND GRANDFATHERED IN.
AND THE TOWN IS STILL LETTING THE PROVISION HAPPEN WHEN IT SHOULD NO LONGER BE ALLOWED BECAUSE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT IT'S BRINGING TO OUR TOWN.
AGAIN, 15 MEN STANDING OUTSIDE.
HOW IS MY 10 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER? HER AND HER FRIEND SUPPOSED TO WALK BY CYNTHIA.
MS. HOOD, WHO'S SITTING HERE IS A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER AND ONE CLAIMS, SHE EVEN SEES THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH IT.
WE HAVE MUSIC VIDEOS BEING MADE.
THE, THE PERSON WHO LIVED RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE STORE HAS SAID THAT SOMEBODY HAS BOUGHT A A BENCH PRESS OUTSIDE.
THEY, THEY BENCH PRESS IS LIKE THEIR HOME.
THEY'RE OUT THERE LIFTING WEIGHTS AND I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S RIDICULOUS.
SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T EVEN DRIVE THROUGH.
YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEM ROADWAY, UH, 'CAUSE THEY'VE GOT FANCY CARS OUT THERE.
THEY'RE ON TOP OF THE CARS, THEY'RE VIDEOTAPING.
OUR QUALITY OF LIFE HAS DIMINISHED.
SO NOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WHEN YOU MOVE INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU BUY A HOME FOR $700,000, $600,000 AND YOU DRIVE THROUGH AND YOU DON'T SEE THAT, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'VE COMMITTED TO IT AND YOU SEE IT, WHAT HAPPENS? I HAVE ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER, THAT OFFICER THAT LIVES NEXT DOOR TO ME, AND I JUST TOLD HIM, I SAID, I'M GONNA TALK TO THE TOWN NOW.
HE SAID, PLEASE TALK TO THE TOWN.
HIS FEET IS IN THE BRONX AND HE'S FROM THE BRONX.
AND HE SAID, I MOVED MY FAMILY UP HERE TO GET AWAY FROM THIS ELEMENT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S HERE ALSO.
THE MOTORCYCLE, THE MOTORCYCLES GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE TOMBSTONE, LIKE IT'S JUST LAWLESSNESS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND NOT NOTHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT.
AND IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT WE FEEL THAT OUR LIVES ARE IN GRAVE DANGER, BUT IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE FOR ALL OF THE LITTLE PEOPLE.
I'M ON THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR ALL
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OF THE LITTLE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING OFF OF THE BUSES THAT ARE TRYING TO WALK TO THEIR HOMES FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE FINALLY REACHED DOUBLE DIGITS AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO WALK UP THEIR HOUSE AND WALK INTO THE PARK.AND AGAIN, NOTHING IS BEING DONE.
SO THEN WE MOVE INTO RO PARK, THE POOL.
YOU MENTIONED AT THE TOP OF YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE ILLEGAL THINGS GOING ON IN DEL.
ARE THERE IN FACT ILLEGAL THINGS GOING ON IN THE DELIA? WELL, I'M NOT, I'M NOT A POLICE OFFICER.
YOU HAVE REASON, YOU HAVE A REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE DRUGS BEING DEALT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS GOING ON IN THERE.
THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER ELEMENT OF PEOPLE IN THE STORE.
SO THERE ARE PEOPLE HANGING OUTSIDE OF THE STORE.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER ELEMENT OF PEOPLE IN THE STORE.
THERE'S CARS BEING PLAYED AND YOU SEE PEOPLE GOING ON IN THE, THROUGH THE BACK DOOR AT 11, 12 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
ONE DAY I HAD TO CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE SOME MAN WAS, WAS DRUNK ON THE STEPS, JUST SITTING THERE.
AND IT WAS 10 30 WHEN I WAS WALKING MY DOG.
I DON'T LIVE IN THE BRONX, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I DON'T LIVE IN THE SIDE BRONX.
AND THEY SELL BEER AT THE TELLER? I, YES, YES.
TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T SIDE OF THERE.
WHAT WERE YOU GUYS SAYING? YES, THE OTHER DAY I WAS DRIVING THROUGH WITH MY KIDS AND LIKE MISS, UH, LIKE SHE SAID, THEY WERE IN ON THE STREET.
AND WHEN I HEARD THEY PUT THEIR FINGER OUT AND MY KIDS SAW THAT, THEY WERE LIKE, MOMMY, DID YOU SEE THAT? AND I WAS LIKE, YES I DID.
WHAT'S IT FROM? THE CHIEF AND PEGGY WITH YOUR RESPONSE TO WHAT COULD BE DONE? WELL, THE CH THE POLICE HAVE, HAVE BROUGHT, HAVE HAD PATROLS OUT THERE.
BUT THE PATROLS DON'T COME AT OPTIMAL TIMES, NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO WITH ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I FEEL LIKE THAT THEY'RE SCARED BECAUSE THEY NEVER GET OUT OF THEIR CAR.
THEY NEVER GET OUT OF THEIR CAR.
THEY NEVER ASK ANYBODY TO MOVE.
THEY NEVER GIVE TICKETS FOR PEOPLE BEING PARKED THERE FOR LONGER THAN 20 MINUTES TO AN HOUR.
THEY, THEY NEVER SAY PUT THOSE OPEN BOTTLES AWAY.
AND THEN, BUT ON THE TOWN SIDE OF IT, WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO ENFORCE IF THERE AREN'T SIGNS THERE THAT SAY PARKING FROM THIS TIME TO THIS TIME? OR IF IT DOESN'T SAY NO MARIJUANA OR WHATEVER.
OR IF IT DOESN'T SAY, UM, BOTTLE OPEN BOTTLES ARE ILLEGAL, WHAT CAN THEY ENFORCE EXCEPT FOR SOMEBODY PULLING OFF AND THEY'RE ASSUMING THAT THEY'VE BEEN DRINKING.
THEY'RE PULLING IN INDIANA PARKING SPACES AFTER THEY'RE DRINKING AND YOU SEE THE BOTTLES OUT THERE.
OKAY, WELL I JUST WANNA FIND OUT AGAIN, UH, PEGGY OR THE CHIEF, COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE AS TO THE LEGAL STATUS? OKAY, HOLD ON.
WE CAN'T HEAR THE CHIEF OR WHATEVER.
HEY CHIEF, CAN YOU TALK AGAIN? YEAH.
THIS MAY BE A PROBLEM THOUGH, THAT THE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE LET THE MULTIPLE, ALRIGHT, SO I, I HAVE HOLD, HOLD ON, HOLD ON A SECOND, CHIEF.
UH, HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
NO, THERE'S GONNA HAVE A DELAY TO IT.
HAVE, THERE'S A, THAT'S TAKING NOTES.
UH, WE SHOULD SOMEONE BE WORKING ON THAT? I DUNNO IF JUST APPROVING RECORDING PROGRESS.
THE WHOLE TIME'S BEEN RECORDED.
ALRIGHT, SO, SO TRY CHIEF RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S NO ONE TAKING TE IT'S BEEN COURT.
WHAT'S THAT? TES NOW YOU CAN'T EVEN HEAR HIM.
WHAT WAS YEAH, BUT YOU DID SOMETHING OVER HERE.
OH, THAT WAS BEFORE SHE TURNED ON THE CAMERA.
THERE YOU, WHAT TIME IS PHONE? SO, USING MY SPEAKER.
WHAT TIME? SO THIS DOESN'T HAVE A SPEAKER.
OH, THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SPEAKER.
THERE'S GOTTA BE A DELAY CAST CHIEF.
THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE INTERNET.
WE CAN TRY SOUND FROM THIS LAPTOP, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA FEEDBACK, BUT I'M GONNA TRY THAT.
BUT THEN SOMEBODY HAS TO COME OVER HERE TO MUTE IT AFTER THE CLOSED.
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IS IT, SO WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT GETTING A SOUND FROM? THAT FEEDBACK GOTTA TURN ALL BUT ONE, RIGHT? YEAH.THE SOUND FROM ALL BUT ONE, EVERYTHING'S OFF OVER HERE.
I DUNNO IF IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH, I I GET ON YOUR SIDE.
YOU, I THINK IF YOU GUYS, WE HEARD PEGGY PRETTY CLEARLY.
I THINK IF EVERYBODY MUTES, YOU MAY BE ABLE, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO HEAR US TO DRIVE OVER BE GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE.
YEAH, IT LOOK HERE, I'LL STAND OUTSIDE.
HE HAS FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF IT.
IF YOU WANT LIMIT THE, UH, DENSITY THERE.
WHAT CHIEF CAN, SOMETHING IS GETTING PICKED UP OVER HERE.
UM, THE MAIN AUDITORY, LIKE MY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA AFFECT ON ZOOM.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, IT'S THE LOOK AT THE'S THING RIGHT HERE.
NOW I'M WON'T ABLE TO DO IT 'CAUSE I MUTED.
SO WHAT'S THIS? YOU KNOW WE'RE GONNA HEAD OVER.
NOW THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO PICK UP HERE? YEAH.
I CAN CHECK, CHECK IF, UH, OKAY.
I'LL COME BACK TO LET YOU KNOW.
HE'S GONE TALK TO TALK TO PEGGY.
PEGGY, CAN YOU TEST WITH US PLEASE? PEGGY? CAN YOU HEAR US? SHE CAN.
IS SHE UP? IS SHE HERE TOO? IS SHE'S IN OFFICE? SHE'S LOOKS LIKE SHE'S IN HER OFFICE.
SO WHERE'S GRAB HER? YOU WANNA GRAB HER? YEAH, GRAB HER.
YEAH, HER DAUGHTERS HER DAUGHTER'S.
LISTEN KIDS, EVERYBODY'S KIDS A BABY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S UM, HER CIVIC DUTY OR WHAT, BUT SHE WAS LIKE, NO, DON'T LEAVE ME HERE.
OH, BUT WHEN SHE'S OLDER SHE COULD SAY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I CLEANED UP IN THIS AREA?
SHE WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
WHY IS SHE IN THE CORNER? BRING IN, LET HER BE PART OF THIS.
WELL THE CHIEF SHE WAS AT PEGGY CAN'T HEAR.
SO YEAH, THE CHIEF IS ON HIS WAY AND MOM'S ON HIS WAY.
AND, AND, AND, AND, UM, PEGGY, CAN YOU NOT HEAR US? TIM WENT TO GO GET PEGGY.
SHE CAN'T HEAR 'CAUSE SHE'S NOT SEE OH, SHE'S IN THE BUILDING, RIGHT? HE WANTS, SO HE GO GET HER.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS ALL IN PERSON.
SO WE, WELL WE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE CHIEF TO COME.
DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE AND WE BACKTRACK OR SO THAT WE'RE NOT WASTING YOUR TIME? THINK I SHOULD HEAR IT? YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH.
WELL THE SECOND, THE SECOND PORTION IS ABOUT ZARO PARK AND THE UPKEEP.
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LET ME SEE WHAT JERRY CALLED ME BEFORE.SO LET ME FIND OUT WHAT HE WAS SAYING.
'CAUSE I GET ARE YOU GUYS STARTING THE MEETING NOW OR CONTINUING? YOU'LL HAVE TO UNMUTE THE AUDITORIUM I GUESS FOR PEGGY TO HERE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ON RIGHT NOW? UM, FROM PARK, FROM WE DOING, WE'RE PULLING, RIGHT? WE'RE NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE ON PUBLIC WORKS.
I CAN MAKE THAT STATEMENT IN TERMS OF PUBLIC WORK.
SINCE THEY'RE ON, THEY CAN HEAR YOU.
BRIAN, CAN YOU HEAR US? IF YOU CAN HEAR US, CAN YOU UNMUTE PLEASE? IS IT SIX? RICHARD? BRIAN WAS RICH.
BRIAN, CAN YOU HEAR US? HEAR US? BECAUSE THERE'S QUESTION THE, AS WELL AS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DELI.
AND UH, DO YOU WANT JERRY TO COME OVER? WHERE IS, HOW FAR OUT IS IT? WE'RE RIGHT.
JERRY? I THOUGHT JERRY WAS SICK.
WHERE ARE RICHARD OR JERRY? RICH IS SICK.
I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW LONG THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE.
WE, WE ARE IN THIS, IN THE LOUIS JACKSON ROOM BECAUSE, UH, MAYBE WE CAN, MAYBE WE CAN PUT YOU ON, UH, YOU CAN, UM, YOU CAN HEAR WHAT, UM, WHAT'S BEING SAID ON SPEAKER AND PUT YOU ON SPEAKER.
LET WELL, THE, NOW HOPEFULLY THAT, THAT, THAT WON'T YEAH, EXACTLY.
SO LET ME JUST, THIS IS WHY WHEN YOU EVER SEE A RADIO STATION, THEY'RE ALL SITTING AROUND WITH HEADSETS ON.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY, RIGHT? OKAY.
SO WOULD YOU UH, I HAVE, JERRY BONE IS ON.
HE'S THE COMMISSIONER OF PARK.
OKAY, SO I KNOW WHO EVERYONE IS, BUT THE THREE OF YOU.
SO, UH, JERRY, CAN YOU HEAR JERRY? YEAH.
HOW ARE YOU? HI CANDACE, NICE TO SPEAK WITH YOU AGAIN.
SO THE CONCERN WITH THE PARK IS THAT EARLIER THIS SUMMER, UM, ONE OF THE SLIDES, AND I SPOKE TO JERRY ABOUT THIS, HAD BROKEN SOMEHOW SOME WAY.
SO THE, THE BANDAID WAS THAT THEY TOOK PLYWOOD AND THEY PUT THE PLYWOOD OVER THE SLIDE AND IT SAYS, DO NOT TOUCH.
SO IF YOU HAVE FOUR YEAR OLDS THROUGH 11 YEAR OLDS GOING INTO THE PARK, ONE IS MAKESHIFT NOW AND UNSAFE.
TWO, THE BEST THAT WE COULD DO IS PUT PLYWOOD UP SAYING THAT, DO NOT TOUCH IT.
JUST ONCE AGAIN, IT SUPPORTS THAT IN THIS, IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, THINGS AREN'T BEING TAKEN CARE OF PROPERLY.
THE POOL OPENS AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND FIRST.
WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THE PARK.
THE REASON WHY WE'RE NOT INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE OF THE GRANT.
WE HAVE A GRANT THAT WE'RE WAITING TO BE PROCESSED, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA PUT IN A WHOLE NEW ONE.
AND, UM, AS FAR AS THE, UH, SLIDE, I CAN TAKE THE WHOLE THING OFF AND WE, WE BARRICADE IT OFF.
IT'S JUST, IT AT THIS POINT NOW, IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO REPLACE THE SLIDE WITH ANOTHER ONE.
AND WE PLAN ON DOING A COMPLETE DEMOLITION AND REBUILD OF THE WHOLE PLAYGROUND.
SO, SO THAT, THAT IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND, UH, SO I MEAN, WE, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE.
WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE WAITING ON, FIRST IT WAS YOU GUYS TO APPROVE THE GRANT, RIGHT? AND THEN WE HAD COVID COME INTO PLACE, AND NOW WE'RE GOING INTO ANOTHER SUMMER WHEN IT HASN'T BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE KIDS IN THE AREA? I, I WISH I COULD BE THERE IN PERSON AND I'D BE MORE THAN GLAD TO COME DOWN RIGHT NOW AND TALK IS BECAUSE IT, IT IS A PLAYGROUND.
WE, AND WE IT WAS TARGETED TO BE REPLACED.
BUT WE'RE HOLDING OFF UNTIL WE HAVE IT.
AND, AND, UH, IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, WE'RE, WE'RE NEGLECTING IT.
IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE TO DO IT NOW.
I, IT IT, THE PART CAN'T BE REPLACED.
IT'S SOMETHING WE KNOW WE HAVE.
NOW, IF THE TOWN WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE US THE MONEY TO DO IT, IT WOULDN'T BE COST EFFECTIVE TO DO THAT.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, IF WE GET THIS GRANT, IT'S GONNA BE $720,000 THAT WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THE ENTIRE PARK.
WE WANNA PUT IN A NEW BASKETBALL COURT.
WE'RE GONNA BE FIXING THE, UH, THE RETAINING WALL.
WE WANNA EXPAND THE, UH, THE DECK A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT WIDER AROUND THE POOL AND ADDRESS SOME OF THAT STUFF IS FIXED.
GARY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
SO YOU'RE, SO YOU TELLING ME IS NOT REALLY, IT'S ALREADY COMMITTED, RIGHT? 200,
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I THINK $30,000 THAT'S IN THE CAPITAL RESERVE RIGHT NOW.TOM A THINK HAS BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE STATE TO COME THROUGH.
I HAD A, I HAD A MEETING RECENTLY WITH GARRETT.
HE'S HOPEFUL THAT IT, IT SHOULD BE COMING, YOU KNOW, AROUND IN, IN 2022.
AND THEN WE'LL IMMEDIATELY BE WORKING WITH B B S TO PREPARE THE DOCUMENTS TO GO OUT.
NOW, WILL WE HAVE A PLAYGROUND, YOU KNOW, TO THE STANDARD THAT YOU WANT THIS SUMMER? NO, IT'S NOT ME.
DON'T SAY YOU BECAUSE IT'S NOT ME.
IT'S AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO'S HAVING AN ISSUE.
AND I'M SORRY THAT YOU HAD TO REPEAT YOURSELF ABOUT WHAT'S TO COME BECAUSE I'M ALREADY FULLY AWARE OF WHAT'S TO COME.
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE WE DOING UNTIL THEN TO SERVICE THE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY? AND THIS ISN'T DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU, THIS ISN'T DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU.
THIS IS LITERALLY DIRECTED TOWARDS THE BOARD.
I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SERVE IT WITH HAVING A PLAYGROUND.
THE ONE THING WE, WHEN WE SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CLOSEST PLAYGROUND TO IT IS DOWN THE STREET ON THE VILLAGE OF, OF ELSEWHERE.
SOMETIMES THINGS WE HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK TO TAKE TWO STEPS FORWARD.
I CAN'T FIX THINGS IMMEDIATELY.
EVERY TIME YOU'VE CALLED ME AND YOU'VE ADDRESSED SPECIFIC STUFF THAT I AM CAPABLE OF FIXING, I HAVE ALWAYS ADDRESSED AND FIXED AND WORK.
THAT DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE THING THAT WE HAVE WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE WASHINGTON AVENUE PLAYGROUND, WE TOOK THAT DOWN.
THEY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PLAYGROUND FOR 12 MONTHS, BUT WE FINALLY GOT IT, YOU KNOW, UP AND RUNNING.
THAT'S OFF OF, UH, MANHATTAN AVENUE.
YOU KNOW, THINGS JUST CAN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
AND IN PARTICULAR THAT PARK, YOU KNOW, I AM YOU'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD AS AM MIND.
I WISH, I WISH I HAD A MAGIC WAND TO SAY I CAN FIX IT.
I MEAN, WE DID GO IN THIS PAST SUMMER WHEN YOU BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION ABOUT THE SWING SETS THAT WAS IN, I AGREE WITH YOU.
I WENT IN THERE, I WAS AMAZED ABOUT HOW HORRIBLE IT WAS.
WE TOOK ALL THE WOOD SHIPS OUT, WE PUT IN A NEW BORDER.
SO NOW WE HAVE A, A SWING SET THAT WAS IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE MAIN FIVE TO 12 PLAYGROUND THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED DESPERATELY.
AND I WISH I HAD A MAGIC WAND AND I CAN GET IT FIXED RIGHT AWAY.
WE USING DEVELOPER SQUARE FUNDS FOR THAT, UH, FOR THE PLAYGROUND.
NO, WE HAVE THAT ALL SET ASIDE THROUGH THIS.
IT'S GONNA BE THE WHOLE PACKET.
YOU, IT'S ALL PACKAGED TOGETHER BETWEEN THE 230,000 AND THEN HOPEFULLY THE $500,000 GRANT THAT WE HAVE COME IN.
AND IT'S ALL GONNA, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER.
BUT I, I THINK THAT PEOPLE AREN'T UNDERSTANDING MY POINT.
MY POINT IS WHAT HAPPENS UNTIL THEN? AND IF HE'S ONLY A PEG? NO, GARY, GIMME A SECOND MAJORITY.
HE'S ONLY A PEG IN THE ISSUE THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOING ON.
UNDERSTANDS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE PLAYGROUNDS, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE TOWN.
AND IT'S EVEN IN, I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T ENCOURAGE IT.
BUT WHAT'S WHAT'S THE PARK? CARROLL PARK, WAS IT RIGHT DOWN THE STREET? YES.
I MEAN, THEY USUALLY SAY YOU SHOULD HAVE A PLAYGROUND WITHIN ONE MILE OF EVERY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
AND, AND WE HAVE MORE WITHIN THAT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WORKING WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR FELLOW VILLAGE.
THEY'RE HELPING WITH US, YOU KNOW, LIKEWISE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS THERE.
I MEAN, UH, IF, IF WHAT I HAVE BARRICADED RIGHT NOW IS UNSAFE, I'LL HAVE MY GUYS LOOK AT IT RIGHT AWAY.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYONE GOING ON THE PLAYGROUND.
BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL SAFE.
I, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, THERE MAKE SURE WHAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS LIMITED USAGE IS NOT IDEAL, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE.
AND CAN WE, CAN WE HAVE ONE NORMAN ON THE CHIEF.
DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES? BECAUSE AGAIN, WHAT JERRY IS SAYING IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED BEFORE.
I UNDERSTAND THE RESTRICTIONS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A GRANT THAT'S COMING, UM, COMING INTO FRUITION AT SOME POINT.
IT'S GOING TO DROP FROM THE HEAVENS, UM, IN, IN THE, AND IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS.
LIKE I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT.
BUT WHAT PEOPLE IN FRONT OF ME ARE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS A LAUNDRY LIST AND JUST BEING ONE, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, MAINTENANCE TAKEN CARE OF, REGULATED, ENFORCED IN THIS SMALL SECTOR OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND IT'S ALL BEING IGNORED IN THIS ONE LITTLE SECTION, IN THIS ONE LITTLE SECTION.
SO EVERYBODY CAN EXPLAIN AWAY ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT.
BUT THE FACT IS THAT NOTHING SUBSTANTIAL IS BEING DONE TO TAKE CARE OF THE TAXPAYERS AND THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.
I'M SITTING HERE, I HAVE PAPERS TO GRADE.
I HAVE A DAUGHTER TO TAKE CARE OF, HAVE A PUPPY AT HOME.
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I COULD'VE, I COULD'VE BOUGHT IN 50 PEOPLE.BUT IT'S NOT NEW PROBLEMS. THEY'RE NOT NEW PROBLEMS. THEY'RE JUST BEING PUSHED TO THE SIDE.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T LIVE IN THE SOUTH BRONX, CYNTHIA, AND MY TAXES DON'T SAY IT.
CYNTHIA, WAS THERE SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO SAY? I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE 29 YEARS MM-HMM.
THAT RETAINING WALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED YEARS AGO.
I HAVE MADE COMMENTS TO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HIS NAME.
HE RUNS THE PARK WITH THE GAMES, YOU KNOW, LIKE TWO BIG GIANT HOLES THAT ONE DAY I WALKED INTO AND I SAID, THIS IS A, THIS IS INSANE.
THEY NEED, WHAT DOES IT COST THE TOWN TO TAKE THE DIRT, TO FILL DIRT AND FILL THE HOLE? WE'RE WAITING ON A GRANT TO FIX THINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I LOOK AT IT AND I SAY CAROL'S PARK IS VERY NICE.
IT'S WELL USED BY THE PEOPLE AND SO FORTH.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ELEMENT HANGING OUT IN THAT PARK.
MASSARO TO ME IS AN AFTER PERSON.
WHY PUT MONEY INTO IT? BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
I WANT MY KIDS TO UTILIZE THE POOL.
I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO GO TO TOWN PARK OR WHATEVER.
I GOT A POOL RIGHT DOWN THE HILL FROM ME.
YOU KNOW, WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY, PUT A POOL IN MY BACKYARD? WE'RE NOT ONE DOWN THE HILL.
LIKE YOU SAID, WHICH THEY SHOULD OPEN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T OPEN UNTIL FOUR O'CLOCK ON A HOT SUMMER THAT IF THEY OPEN MAYBE FOUR WEEKS IN THE HORSE SUMMER.
AND THEY WERE CLOSED AUGUST WHEN HE HAD THE HEAT WAVE.
AND IT'S OPEN AND, AND IT'S STILL OPEN RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S NOT EVEN A COVER ON THE POOL CURRENTLY.
LAST YEAR DURING COVID, WE WERE SITTING IN THE PARK, MY DAUGHTER AND I, AND A LITTLE KID SHIMMIED THROUGH THE GATE BECAUSE HE LOST HIS BALL.
BUT WHAT IF PEOPLE WOULD'VE FELL IN? IT COULD HAPPEN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE POOL'S NOT COVERED.
SO WE CAN TALK TO EACH COMMISSIONER THAT'S ON THE PAYROLL IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
BUT THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT, I REALLY DON'T CARE TO TALK TO THEM.
WE JUST SO WANT THE ISSUES TAKEN CARE OF.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? BECAUSE WE DID THIS, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, WHEN LORENZO BROWN WAS INVOLVED.
WHY DON'T WE, UM, DO A A TOWN BOARD SITE INSPECTION OF ON, YOU KNOW, OF THE, OF THE PARK AND THEN WE BASICALLY COULD RE BROWN.
SO WE DID, WE DID THIS WITH HIM.
WE DID IT WITH, UM, WITH LEAL.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE THIS, WE PERIODIC HERE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING HE LIVES ON MY STREET.
I THINK LIKE CYNTHIA SAID, AND LIKE CANDACE HAS BEEN SAYING, THESE ARE NOT NEW PROBLEMS. NO.
US GOING OVER THERE AND LOOKING IS NOT GONNA SHOW US ANYTHING.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE BOARD BASICALLY TO, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE POOL, THE, THE LACK OF THE COVER.
I MEAN THAT'S THE WELL THAT'S A EASY FIX.
THAT'S A SAFETY, THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE.
SO THESE HOLES THAT CYNTHIA DESCRIBES WHY WERE HOLES STILL THERE? YEAH.
SO THOSE, LIKE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE, RIGHT? YOU CAN COVER A POOL.
YOU CAN COVER A POOL WITH THE COVER AND YOU CAN PUT SOME DIRT IN A HOLE.
I JUST KNOW THAT THE CONCERN, THAT THE CONCERN, I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH LAMB WHEN CANDACE, WHEN YOU WERE CALLING ME AND EMAIL ME, I WAS ON THE LINE WITH CHRIS.
I WAS ON THE LINE WITH, NOR I, SORRY, CHIEF, I WAS ON THE LINE WITH LIEUTENANT TALKING TO HIM AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE CAN DO.
I'VE ALSO CONTACTED LEMEO DAVIS, WHO IS THE HEAD OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
THAT'S MY CONTACTS IN ELSEWHERE.
SO I'M GONNA CALL, I'M GONNA CALL WHO'S, WHO'S REPRESENTING YOU.
RIGHT? BUT HE'S NOT OKAY TO BE CLEAR ON, ON CAMERA.
SO THAT'S WHO I CONTACTED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN COME WITH SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION.
NOW, I WILL TELL YOU, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT THE POOL IN THE, IN THE HOLE IN THE, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HEARD THAT BEFORE.
DID YOU KNOW THAT THE POOL OPENED AT FOUR O'CLOCK? ONE HOT SUMMER DAYS? I DID NOT.
AND IT CLOSE AND IT CLOSES AND IT CLOSES, UM, AT THE END OF JULY, THE FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST, WHEN THE ENTIRE AUGUST THEY, IF THEY HAVE CARS AND IF THEIR PARENTS ARE HOME, THEY HAVE TO TAKE 'EM OVER TO THE TOWN POOL.
WE ONLY HAVE TWO OUTDOOR POOL LOCATIONS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
WHY IS THE ONE PRESIDENT OVER THE OTHER? WHY? BUT BECAUSE BECAUSE 20 YEARS AGO, THE A A, UM, A CAMP RENTED THE POOL.
SO WHEN THEY RENTED IT, THAT'S WHO OCCUPIED THE POOL IN THE MORNING SO THAT THE KIDS IN THE AREA COULDN'T COME THERE UNTIL THE AFTERNOON.
BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED IN OVER A DAY.
AND WE STILL HAVE THE SAME HOURS.
AND THEN THEY SAY, OH, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFFING.
I'M SORRY, I CAN COME DO SCHEDULING FOR THEM IF THEY WANT ME TO MAKE YOUR SCHEDULING SO THAT YOU HAVE A SHIFT OF LIFEGUARDS THAT ROTATE FROM ONE POOL TO THE OTHER.
EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ASKING IS AN EASY FIX.
I I, I EMAIL YOU, I WOULD SAY ONCE A WEEK.
MY DAUGHTER IS SICK OF ME EMAILING YOU AFTER.
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THING IN RESPONSE TO, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS I HAD WITH, YOU KNOW, JERRY ABOUT THE POOL ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO, REMEMBER JERRY SPOKE AT THE BOARD MEETING AND BASICALLY SAID THAT PEOPLE WERE USING THE POOL THEN AND WE USED TO CHARGE PEOPLE, UH, TO USE A POOL.THEN HE BASICALLY SAID, THEN WE DECIDED TO MAKE IT FREE, WHICH WE NEVER DID BEFORE.
NO OTHER POOL IN THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, IS FREE.
AND YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY SAID, OKAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PEOPLE WEREN'T USING IT, WOULD WOULD TRY SOMETHING ELSE.
AND THE POOL HAS BEEN FREE MY ENTIRE LIFE ORIGINALLY.
JERRY, WHAT WAS THE CHARGE THEY TRIED? SO I MUST'VE BEEN IN COLLEGE BECAUSE THE POOL WAS FREE MY ENTIRE LIFE.
WE WOULD WALK INTO THE POOL, WE WOULD SWIM, WE WOULD LEAVE.
SO I, IF YOU WANT SUGGESTIONS AND YOU WANT TO CHARGE, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU CHARGING CHARGE THE NON-RESIDENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT, THAT PAID THEIR TAXES TO THE VILLAGE, HAVE SOMEBODY THERE.
NOT JUST, NOT JUST A BOOK THAT THE KIDS COME AND SIGN IN.
AND HOW DID, OH, HOW'D YOU GET IN? OH, I JUST HAD TO SIGN THE BOOK.
HAVE, HAVE SOMEBODY THERE MAKE IT LEGITIMATE.
THERE'S A STATION AT THE TOWN, AT TOWN, UM, ANTHONY VETERAN PUT A STATION THERE WITH A PAID PERSON THAT SCANS THE UNI CARDS.
SO THEN YEAH, PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY YOUR UNI CARDS ARE GOING TO ONE OF THE LOCATIONS OR THE OTHER.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A UNI CARD, YOU HAVE TO PAY TO GET IN.
LIKE, THE PROBLEMS AREN'T ROCKET SCIENCE.
I CAN, I CAN SIT HERE AND TROUBLESHOOT WITH YOU ALL DAY LONG AND I BET YOU WE CAN SOLVE EACH AND EVERY PROBLEM ON THE LIST WITHIN AN HOUR.
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO FRUSTRATING, JERRY, BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S EXCUSED AWAY.
JERRY, DO YOU HAVE ANY THREATS JERRY? NO, HE'S NOT ON, HE'S NOT ON ANYMORE.
HE WAS ON, HE WAS ON MY PHONE.
THANK YOU GENTLEMEN FOR COMING.
SO I THOUGHT THAT YOU WANTED TO GO TO, TO ADDRESS SOME OTHER ISSUES.
SO YEAH, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE POLICE SIDE OF IT.
SO CANDACE AND I HAVE A LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIP.
CANDACE HAD MY CELL PHONE NUMBER.
SHE HAS DEFENDANT HALL'S CELL PHONE NUMBER.
WE'VE ENCOURAGED, WE KNOW CYNTHIA FOR A LONG TIME.
WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE OUT THERE TO CONTACT US WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING.
AND WHEN I HEARD THIS AND I HEARD THAT WHEN CANDACE WOULD CALL ME AND I'D SAY, CANDACE, I, WE WE'RE GONNA RESPOND THERE.
I DELEGATED IT TO OUR COMMUNITY AFFAIRS LIEUTENANT, HE'S GOING TO ADDRESS IT.
AND CANDICE SAID, I DON'T EVEN SEE POLICE CARS ON PATROL.
AND I SAID, I WENT INTO THE PATROL CAPTAIN, I SAID, WHAT'S GOING ON? I'M HEARING THAT THEY'RE NOT SEEING CARS.
WHAT THE CAPTAIN DID WAS HE PUT A, A GEOFENCE UP ON THAT, ON PAIN STREET TO SEE WHEN CARS WERE COMING IN AND OUT.
SO WE HAVE DATA, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL GOING ON, BUT THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE, PROBABLY TWO MONTHS AGO, WE HAVE DATA THAT THE CARS WERE ON PATROL AND THEY WERE, WERE GOING.
AND, AND I HEARD YOU SAY EARLIER THAT NOT GETTING OUT OF THE CARS AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO, BUT IF THERE ARE 30 MEN STANDING OUT THERE AND THERE'S LOUD MUSIC AND THERE'S THIS AND THAT AND I'M ONE PATROL, AM I REALLY GETTING OUT THE CAR? LET'S BE, LET'S BE, LET'S BE LIKE REALISTIC ABOUT THIS.
IF THERE'S A CONDITION THAT THEY SEE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, I EXPECT THEM TO PULL FOR A SUPERVISOR, ANOTHER UNIT AND GET OUT AND ADDRESS IT.
LIEUTENANT HALL WITH HIS PERSONNEL HAVE GOTTEN OUTTA THE CAR, SPENT TIME THERE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.
AND THE ISSUE WE HAVE IS WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE LAW.
SO IF WE DON'T SEE A VIOLATION OF THE LAW, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN'T DO.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T TELL PEOPLE TO MOVE ALONG.
SO LIKE, TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND, AND WE CERTAINLY ARE, HAVE NEVER BEEN HEAVY HANDED TYPE APPROACH TO THINGS.
BUT WE TRIED TO TALK TO PEOPLE, WE TRIED TO REASON BUT SUMMONS IS, LIEUTENANT HALL CAN SPEAK TO THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF IT.
WELL, WE HAVE DISCUSSED ON NUMEROUS OCCASION, I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH VARIOUS RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ON THIS TOPIC.
WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM.
THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE OUT AT THAT TIME, I HAVE STOPPED.
I GOT OUT, I HAVE TALKED TO THEM.
BECAUSE SOCIETY WANTS US TO INTERACT.
WE CAN'T COME WITH THE HEAVY HAND AND PULL A VAN UP AND JUST SEEK TO ARREST PEOPLE AND PUT THEM AWAY.
I, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN ANY COMMUNITY WOULD WANT THAT TO OCCUR.
AND IT'S NOT JUST SPECIFIC TO PAYNE STREET.
WE ARE HAVING THE SAME ISSUE FROM MANHATTAN AVENUE ON OAK STREET, ON BEACH STREET.
AND SOME OF THESE INCIDENTS ARE OCCURRING BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND AS A CHIEF ALLUDED TO, OUR HANDS ARE TIED BECAUSE AN OPEN CONTAINER, WE NEED THEM NOT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
IT'S LIKE YOU AT YOUR HOUSE IN YOUR BACKYARD.
WE CAN'T COME IN YOUR BACKYARD AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE ARE ENFORCING RIGHT NOW.
GIMME YOUR NAMES, GIMME YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE.
THAT'LL BE A LITTLE TOO HARSH.
SO WHEN I GO OUT THERE, I I, I
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WAS OUT THERE TODAY 'CAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHEN THOSE BUSES WERE COMING THROUGH, THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS STOPPING.I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE STOPPING AT THE STOP SIGN.
AND THEN THERE WAS TWO OR THREE GUYS THERE.
AND WE ALL KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO JUDGE ANYONE, BUT THEY COULD BE OF DEVIANT BEHAVIOR.
THERE'S NOT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO.
THEY, AND THEY GAVE THAT INFORMATION TO ME AND THEY SAID, I'M NOT BOTHERING ANYBODY.
SO I TRY TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE CONFIDENCE TO SAY, WELL, DO ME A FAVOR.
YOU RESIDE OUT THERE, THIS IS YOUR STREET.
NO, I'M I'M, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT YOUR STREET.
NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HANG OUT THERE LIVE IN THAT SQUARE AREA AROUND THE PARK.
SO IT'S NOT, AND MOST OF THE OPEN BOTTLES, WHICH YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T SEE AT THE MOMENT, ARE IN FRONT OF THE PARK.
THEY, THEY TAKE CENTER BLOCKS, THEY TAKE LAWN CHAIRS, THEY TAKE THEM OUT THEIR CARS, THEY TAKE THEIR BOTTLES AND THEIR DRINKS AND EVERYTHING OUT OF THEIR CARS.
AND THEY SIT THERE AND THEY LOUNGE AS IF THEY WERE IN THEIR BACKYARDS AND THEY'RE IN FRONT OF THE PARK.
NOT THE STORE, BUT IN FRONT OF THE PARK.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE KIDS ARE SEEING.
I JUST HAVE A CURIOSITY QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, WITH THE WHOLE MOVEMENT, YOU KNOW, AGAINST, YOU KNOW, POLICE INTERNATIONALLY, UM, I'M SORT OF, YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF CURIOUS BECAUSE ARE, ARE THE POLICE NOW BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, CAREFUL, UH, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE APPROACHING PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE SORT OF AFRAID OF BEING, YOU KNOW, MORE HEAVY HANDED OR, YOU KNOW, IS IS THAT SORT OF INFLUENCING? BECAUSE I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WE WERE SUPER AGGRESSIVE, YOU KNOW, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING.
LET'S SAY WE WERE MORE AGGRESSIVE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WITH PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE YOU'D BE ARRESTING WOULD BE PROBABLY PEOPLE WHO LIVE, YOU KNOW, IN THE TOWN.
SO I'M WONDERING IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BALANCE.
WE DON'T WANT THE POLICE TO BE TOO AGGRESSIVE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE COMMUNITY WANTS THE POLICE TO BE PROVIDING, WE WANT THE ELEMENT BE SAFE.
HOW CAN YOU DO THAT TO, TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S, DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? I DO, I DO.
THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THE CHALLENGE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, POLICING AND POLICING, YOU KNOW, IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE A LOT OF TENSION, YOU KNOW, SO, AND, AND THAT'S REALITY.
SO WHEN, WHEN POLICE OFFICERS GO INTO THESE COMMUNITIES, WE'RE CHALLENGED MORE THAN EVER.
AND THE JOB IS MORE DIFFICULT.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE SHYING AWAY FROM IT.
I JUST THINK THAT IT'S AN EXTREMELY CHALLENGING TIME AND POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
SO THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, SOMEBODY'S VIOLATING THE LAW FOR THEM TO TAKE POLICE ACTION.
THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, VERY CAREFUL THEY'RE BEING RECORDED.
IT'S GONNA END UP ON, YOU KNOW, ON DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. SO POLICE OFFICERS ARE MORE CAUTIOUS NOW THAN THEY'VE EVER BEEN.
SO, I, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE SHYING AWAY FROM THEIR WORK, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, IT'S NOT WORKING.
SO IN TALKING TO JERRY, WE HAD ONE IDEA THAT ONE NUISANCE AREA IS THAT PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE PARK ON HAY STREET.
PERHAPS WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO FENCE THAT OFF WHEN THE PARK IS CLOSED AFTER DUSK.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN DO MORE ENFORCEMENT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE THINK WE CAN HELP LIMIT THE NUISANCE OVER THERE.
BUT AS FAR AS THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, YOU KNOW, I DEFER TO LIEUTENANT HALL AND, AND HIS PERSONNEL BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE.
THEY'RE DOING IT EVERY TIME CANDACE HAS CALLED ME, I'VE TOLD LIEUTENANT HALL, HE'S GONE OUT THERE WITH HIS PERSONNEL.
I'VE ASKED CANDACE TO CONTACT LIEUTENANT HALL DIRECTLY.
UM, AND IT SHOULD ALL BE ON CANDACE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WAITING FOR YOU TO CALL US.
MY NEIGHBORS ARE LIKE, UM, WHERE'S WE'RE, THEY'RE SICK OF IT.
LIKE, WE'RE SICK OF TRYING TO ASK FOR HELP.
AND WHEN WE'RE MET WITH NOTHING, I I I CAN, I CAN FORWARD THOSE OVER TO YOU GUYS.
EVERYONE IS LIKE, IT'S, IT IS A PROBLEM THAT'S NOT BEING SOLVED.
AND, AND WE'VE SCREAMED AND YELLED AND WE, IT WAS A NO AVAIL.
AND HAVE YOU DONE AN INVESTIGATION WHERE THERE ANYTHING ILLEGAL WAS GOING ON IN THE STORE? WE HAVE, WE BROUGHT OUR DRUG AND ALCOHOL TASK FORCE IN THERE.
THEY DID, THEY DID INVESTIGATIONS AND THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T DOUBT CANDACE, YOU KNOW, CANDACE HAS TOLD ME WE THINK THERE'S ILLEGAL THINGS GOING ON.
WE THINK THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING ALCOHOL AND, AND MIXING DRINKS AND SELLING IT TO PEOPLE.
DID YOU, WE, WE WERE UNABLE TO CONFIRM THAT.
DID YOU SEND ANYBODY IN UNDERCOVER? WE DID.
AND MY, AND MY, MY QUESTION AGAIN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS IF IT'S A ONE FAMILY DWELLING, WHY ARE WE STILL ALLOWING IT TO OPERATE AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY?
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IT IS NOT 1917.THE OLD CORNER STORE DOES NOT NEED TO BE THERE ANY LONGER WHEN IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING BUT DIS SERVICING THE COMMUNITY AND THE HOUSE THAT'S NEXT DOOR TO IT.
THAT, THAT USED TO BE OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER.
THAT HAS PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF IT ALL THE TIME ALSO.
AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET DISCOURAGED AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE, IT HASN'T BEEN JUST I UNDERSTAND.
AND IT HASN'T BEEN JUST YOU THAT HAS COME, I HAVEN'T HAD MEETINGS.
6:00 AM IN THE MORNING PRIOR TO A RESIDENT GOING TO WORK AND HAS BROUGHT INFORMATION TO ME AND EXPLAINED THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE WANTED TO BE A JOINT ATHLETE SOMETIME IN THE PAST BEFORE THEY LEGALIZED MARIJUANA.
I, I SAT AT VARIOUS MEETINGS AND I GAVE MY INPUT BECAUSE I ALREADY KNEW WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN WHEN YOU LEGALIZE MARIJUANA THAT WAS GONNA BE SUCH A EYESORE FOR RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN AND LEGALIZED IT.
FIVE YEAR OLDS GETTING OFF OF THE BUS.
AND THEY'RE MET BY SMOKE AND DRINKING AND YELLING AND CURSING.
THEY'RE GETTING OFF OF THE BUS FROM SCHOOL.
I WAS WALKING MY DOG AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING ONE DAY.
THERE WAS A MAN OUTSIDE JUST SITTING ON THE STEPS IN FRONT, IN FRONT OF THE STORE.
LIKE, WHAT'S HAPPENING? I CAN'T, WHAT IS HAPPENING? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO GET EVEN WORSE.
WE'RE GETTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT IN APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND MULTIPLE DWELLS BY KIDS.
IT'S COMING UP, IT'S SEEPING THROUGH THE FLOOR, IT'S COMING IN MY WINDOWS.
LIKE, LIKE THIS IS, THIS IS DEFINITELY A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE RELATED AREA.
IT'S NOT PRIVATE WHERE THE STORE ASIDE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PARK THAT YOU GUYS CONTROL.
LIKE I SAID, WHERE ARE ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT CAN BE ENFORCED? WHERE ARE THE PARKING REGULATIONS? WHERE ARE THE DRUG REGULATIONS? BECAUSE THERE'S A PLAYGROUND RIGHT THERE.
WHERE ARE THOSE THINGS THAT, THAT YOU CAN ENFORCE? WHERE ARE, OH THERE'S, THERE'S FIVE OPEN BOTTLES RIGHT HERE, LET'S GO.
THEY'RE GETTING IN THEIR CARS, THEY'RE DRINKING AND THEY'RE GETTING IN THEIR CARS.
WHERE IS THE PERSON AT THE END OF THE STREET IN THE PARKING LOT PULLING PEOPLE OVER? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW THAT THEY WERE DRINKING.
WHERE IS THE DETERRENT? THERE'S NO DETERRENT FOR THEM NOT TO DO IT.
I'M NOT SAYING HARASS, I KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS PERSONALLY, I WOULD NEVER WANT ANYBODY HURT OR HARASSED OR JAILED.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT IS THE TOWN DOING TO DETER THEM FROM HANGING OUT? 'CAUSE IF THERE'S NO DETERRENT, THEN LIKE I SAID, IT IS TOMBSTONE AND IT'S A FREE FOR ALL.
AND YOU, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT HERE.
SO COME HOLLER AT US OVER HERE FROM YONKERS IN THE BRONX, IN MOUNT VERNON BECAUSE NOBODY DOES ANYTHING OVER HERE SO Y'ALL CAN COME CHILL.
AND THE OFFICERS, WE GO TO THE VARIOUS SQUADS.
EVEN WHEN, WHEN YOU CALL ME, I MAKE IT THERE.
BUT WHEN I PULL UP AND I GET OUT OF THE CAR, I'M LOOKING AND THIS IS AT NIGHTTIME AND I'M BY MYSELF AND THERE'S NO BOTHERS, THEIR MUSIC MIGHT BE A LITTLE TURNED UP.
I ASK THEM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A RESPECT LEVEL.
I'M NOT DISRESPECTFUL TO ANYONE, BUT I ASK 'EM TO TURN THAT MUSIC DOWN.
BUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY PROVIDES TO US BY GIVING US THE NOTIFICATION THAT THIS BEHAVIOR IS GOING ON, IS IT'S A GREAT ASSISTANCE TO US.
SO WE WE NEED THE PHONE CALLS.
WE NEED SOMEBODY TO LET US KNOW.
SO LEMME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION,
ASK, WHAT DO YOU SEE IN FRONT OF THE PARK, IN THE STORE? UM, JUST PEOPLE STANDING OUT THERE AND UM, SITTING IN THE CAR AND THE MUSIC IS REALLY LOUD.
UM, SO WHEN IT'S TIME TO W CASH AND I SAY WALK DOWN THE STREET TO GRANDMA'S HOUSE, DO YOU WANT TO GO? NO, I'VE LIVED THERE MY WHOLE LIFE.
MY GRANDFATHER USED TO OWN THE STORE.
MS. HOOD WAS TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING FOR A WHILE.
DOES THE TOWN HAVE SOME TYPE OF ORDINANCE REGARDING SMOKING A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM THE PARK OR WHATEVER, THE FEDERAL OUTFALL OR WHATEVER.
BECAUSE IF THERE IS SUCH AN ORDINANCE OR THE SIGNS POSTED SAYING NO SMOKING X AMOUNT OF FEED OR WHATEVER, SOMETHING WHERE THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY ENFORCE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A VIOLATION.
I'M JUST REMEMBER THE LAWN VOTING SIGNS.
REMEMBER THE VOTING SIGNS FOR THE LAWN THAT GO IN THE LAWN? THEY HAD ONE IN FRONT OF THE PARK AND THEY HAD ONE BY MY HOUSE AT THE PARK ENTRANCE AND THAT'S ALL THEY HAD.
AND NOW THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AN ISSUE.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY THE POLICE, CYNTHIA.
AND WE KNOW WITH THE NEW MARIJUANA THAT THAT'S HOW WE CAN ENFORCE IT.
I HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS, THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS AND I BELIEVE IT WAS IN PROCESS.
A FOLLOW UP QUESTION BEFORE YOU SAID BIG, YOUR GOAL WAS NOT TO HAVE PEOPLE ARRESTED IF PEOPLE AREN'T ARREST.
IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO BETTER UNDERSTANDING PEOPLE AREN'T ARRESTED, THEN THEY'RE GONNA FEEL THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT.
SO THE QUESTION IS, SO I'M SAYING IF, SO REALLY IF WE WANT TO BE,
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THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT IS IF THE TOWN IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, WE WILL WANT TO ADDRESS WITH THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE, DON'T YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY AGGRESSIVE AND YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THE, YOU KNOW, EVEN PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, FEEL THAT WE'RE A LITTLE TOUGHER THAN MAYBE WE WOULD IF WE'RE NOT, WE'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SLAP SOMEBODY'S HAND, YOU'RE NEVER, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE NO DETERRENT.AND IT'S GONNA KEEP KEEP, YOU'RE GONNA KEEP GOING FINE.
I'M SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD WANT AND MAYBE MAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE IN THIS INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD REALLY BE TOUGH.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF WE ARE, THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA GET ARRESTED ARE THE PEOPLE AND WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE YOU ARE POSSIBLY.
WE DON'T WORK FOR, WE DON'T WORK FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE WORK FOR THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THE TOWN SHOULD PUT THINGS IN PLACE, ENFORCEABLE THINGS SO THAT EVERYBODY ELSE CAN DO THEIR JOB.
WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT OUR TAX DOLLARS NOT WORKING.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE A WAY WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY GET RESULTS.
ME AND YOU WANNA GET RESULTS BECAUSE YOU WHAT? SO, AND THE PROBLEM IS WE COULD BE LIKE REALLY NICE TO EVERYBODY AND IT'S NEVER GONNA GO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE NEVER GONNA SELL THEM.
YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GO AND SAY, HI, I'M LIEUTENANT HALL, COULD YOU PLEASE NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT, UH, SMOKE.
AND THEY'LL SAY, UH, AND THEY'LL BE, YOU'LL AND THEN THEY'LL SAY, OKAY, LIEUTENANT HALL.
AND THEN FIVE MINUTES AFTER YOU LEAVE, THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU ARE GONNA BE YOU, I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD, YOU SHOULD DO THAT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER APPROACH IS TO BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY TOUGH AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHAT NATIONALLY EVERYBODY'S SAYING POLICE OFFICERS SHOULDN'T BE DOING.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING, PEOPLE ARE SAYING NO.
I'M SAYING PEOPLE ARE SAYING V WEREN TOUGH IS WARRANTED.
NOT TOUGH WENT TOUGH IS NOT WANTED.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT BEING TOUGH IS NOT, I THINK PLEASE DON'T SMOKE.
I THINK WE'VE HEARD A LOT HERE.
THERE'S ONE THING WE HAVEN'T HEARD.
WAIT, NO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S ONE THING WE HAVEN'T HEARD HERE.
IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE OKAY, NOM I'M JUST TRYING TO JUST GET A POINT ACROSS.
THIS WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH.
I'VE CONTACT, WE, WE UNDERSTAND.
FOR, FOR AND, AND THE TWO YOUNG LADIES, I'M SORRY I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAMES.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND EXPRESSING WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED HERE.
WE'VE HEARD THAT LEGAL AND AND THE CHIEF, OH THE CHIEF COME COME.
OH, THE CHIEF UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE.
AND HE JUST WALKED OVER TO ME SAYING THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO AND MAKE SURE WE CHANGE.
THAT'S WHAT HE JUST SAID TO ME.
AND I JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THAT JUST WENT LIKE THAT.
LIKE LEGAL AND THE POLICE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO GOING FORWARD.
OKAY, WELL PEGGY JUST SAID WE COULD DO A WAR AND SPANNING SMOKING AND THEN BASICALLY YOU WANNA JUST MENTION THAT.
WELL, AND WE, I KNOW THE CHIEF AND I HAD REVIEWED THAT WHEN THE, WHEN THE LAW WAS JUST CHANGING THAT WE COULDN'T JUST SAY, UH, THERE'S NO SMOKING MARIJUANA.
IT'S LIKE YOU WERE IN FRONT OF A SCHOOL, A SCHOOL HOUSE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO BAN IT ALL THE MATERIAL.
SO THE PROBLEM ACROSS THE STREET.
OKAY, BUT SO, BUT SO PEGGY, OH SORRY, ANSWER FRANCIS.
I THINK THEY'RE DOING BOTH IS WHAT I'M HEARING.
WHAT FRANCIS IS SAYING IS, IS THE PROBLEM AT THE, AT THE DELI OR IS IT AT THE PARK? IT'S IN BOTH PLACES, YES.
FROM WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, DEFINITELY BOTH.
BUT WE HAVE MORE CHALLENGES AT, AT THE DELI.
AT THE DELI WHEN THE ZONING PORTION OF IT COMES INTO PLAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU ALSO TO LOOK INTO.
SO THAT'S WHAT ZONING, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GONNA ASK PEGGY TOO ON THE ZONING IS, AS FAR AS THE ZONING IS CONCERNED, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PLACE WAS GRANDFATHERED IN.
IT WAS SO, BUT IF IT GOES FROM OWNER TO LET HER FINISH, LET HER FINISH, LET FINISH, LET HER FINISH, EVEN IF IT GOES FROM OWNER TO OWNER, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T, IF THEY DON'T STOP THE BUSINESS FOR LIKE SIX MONTHS, THEN THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
BUT IF IT'S A CONTINUAL THING, IT CAN GO FROM OWNER TO OWNER.
SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
THAT'S, SO IT'S AND WHAT HAVE A CLOSE DOWN.
WHAT ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION? IS THERE A WAY TO CONSTRAIN, 'CAUSE IS IT OPEN 24 HOURS? NO, IT'S NOT OPEN 24 HOURS OPEN, BUT PEOPLE ARE IN NOW THROUGH THE SUMMER.
SO IF IT'S NOT OPEN YET, STILL OPEN.
IS THERE A WAY TO CONSTRAIN THAT? I THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGE.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE.
BUT I MEAN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO REVIEW WITH THE DBA TO SEE IF THAT'S
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SOMETHING THAT THE USE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE COULD BE SOME TYPE OF USE INTERPRETATION THAT MAY RESTRICT THAT MORE THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO.THE PARKING AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE THEY CONGREGATE, RIGHT? IS THAT PART OF THE PARK OR IS THAT WHO THAT IS PART OF THE PARK.
SO, UM, I'M JUST GUESSING, JUST GUESSING THE PARK HAS, UH, RULES CERTAIN HOURS THE PARK IS CLOSED.
SO AGAIN, IS THERE SIGNAGE THAT STATES THE HOURS OF THE PARK? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? MM-HMM.
I'M JUST, YEAH, I MEAN I THINK THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S, THAT'S EASY.
I DON'T, THAT CAN BE DONE EASILY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE SIGNS THAT WERE THERE WERE TEMPORARY.
SO WE PROBABLY WANT TO PUT UP SOME PERMANENT SIGNS.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT PEGGY AND THE CHIEF ARE GOING TO HAVE AFTER THIS MEETING.
AND DEFINITELY, I THINK'S JERRY DID MENTION THAT ABOUT THE SMOKING JERRY ON THIS TOO.
WE SPOKE ABOUT IT, I JUST DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, I FORGET WHAT, WHAT, UM, PUT THE BRAKES ON THAT.
BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WERE REVIEW INTO.
SO, AND THANK THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
'CAUSE I DID OH, YOU'RE WELCOME.
I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HERE'S SOME MORE, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD NEWS.
I JUST WANNA SAY I DO UNDERSTAND THAT PROPERTY TAKE OFF PROBLEMS AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT WE JUST SAID.
JUST LIKE AN ORDER OF PROTECTION DOESN'T MEAN SOMEONE'S NOT RIGHT.
TO TAKE THE PROPER STEPS, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
AND THEN DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
WHO KNOWS? WE, THEY JUST MIGHT GET TIRED OF, AGAIN, IT'S WALKING TOGETHER.
IT'S A COMMUNITY WORKING TOGETHER.
FRANCIS HAD SOME INFORMATION AND HE PULLED UP.
WHAT I'M SITTING HERE, IT MAY APPEAR LIKE I'M, I'M JUST LISTENING, BUT I'M ACTUALLY ACTING.
AND WHEN YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ZONING, SO THAT CONVENIENCE STORE WAS ACTUALLY BUILT IN 1915.
THE BAD NEWS IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ZONING IN 1915.
OUR ZONING ORDINANCE CAME OUT IN 1924.
SO THEY COULD HAVE DONE WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO IN 1915.
AND SO THEN WHEN WE SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S GRANDFATHERED OR GRANDPARENT OR WHATEVER, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN.
ANYTHING THAT WAS DONE PRIOR TO 1915, UH, WOULD'VE BEEN, WOULD'VE BEEN ALLOWED EVEN WHEN THEY CAME IN WITH ZONING.
WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK, FINDING OUT WHAT DID THEY ACTUALLY HAVE WHEN OUR ZONING WAS IMPLEMENTED.
THEY WOULD'VE THEN LEGAL NON-CONFORMING.
THEY WOULD STILL HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO HAVE WHATEVER THEY HAD BECAUSE IT WAS THERE, BUT IT'D BE BECAUSE IT EXISTED PRIOR TO OUR PUTTING IT IN EFFECT TO ZONING.
AND WE'D HAVE TO SEE WHAT THAT IS.
AND THAT WOULD BASICALLY SET THE BASELINE FOR WHAT THEY COULD DO IN THE FUTURE.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, WHY IS THERE A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE AS A CONVENIENCE STORE? IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A CONVENIENCE STORE FOR A VERY LONG TIME THAT I DO.
IT WASN'T INITIALLY BUILT AS A CONVENIENCE STORE, BUT IT WAS CONVERTED OVER, UH, QUITE A LONG TIME AGO.
AND SO THAT'S, BUT I GET TOGETHER WITH, WITH A LOT OF LANGUAGE PEOPLE DURING THE WEEK, AND WE'LL LOOK INTO THE HISTORY OF THIS JUST SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT THE HISTORY IS.
UH, TO AT LEAST ANSWER THE QUESTION AS TO WHY DO THEY EXIST? WELL, I MEAN LIKE, LIKE I MENTIONED ALREADY, UM, I'VE LIVED IN, I'M SORRY, MY WHOLE LIFE.
MY GRANDFATHER OWNED THIS STORE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS.
SO AT ONE POINT THE STORE, AND TASHA SAID IT YESTERDAY, WHEN SHE CAME HERE, IT USED TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, BUT CURRENTLY IT DOESN'T SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CAMERAS ARE WORKING YET, BUT IF YOU EVEN LOOK, YOU DON'T, YOU SEE A SPARSE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE EVEN GO INTO THE STORE AND COME OUT WITH, WITH ANY TYPE OF PRODUCT AT ALL.
IT DOESN'T SERVE A PURPOSE THERE.
IT DOESN'T THE TIMELINE TO GO BUY IT AND USE IT AS A PARKING LOT, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, IT DOESN'T SERVE A PURPOSE.
THE ONLY PURPOSE IS SERVES IS TO HAVE ELEMENTS IN AND OUT OF IT THAT ARE UNWANTED.
SO THERE'S NOTHING BEING SOLD OUT OF THERE.
LIKE WHEN I SAID LIKE, REAL SERIOUSLY, THERE'S NO LIKE A SODA CABINET? YEAH, THEY HAVE THAT STUFF.
SO THEY HAVE SO OH, CHIPS, SO THERE'S, SO LET ME SAY THIS.
SO THERE'S THE APPEARANCE THAT A GOT IT.
SO WHEN WE SAY THIS TO YOU, GINA, I'VE NEVER, AND I, I LIVE HERE, THE STORE IS THERE.
I CAN SEE EVERYTHING FROM MY WINDOW.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A TRUCK PULL UP, TAKE MERCHANDISE OUT, GO INTO THE STORE WITH IT.
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY DELIVERY TRUCKS EVER.
SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY MAY GO TO SAM'S
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PICK UP, BUT THEIR MAIL THE SAME THING.I MAY GO TO SAM'S OR BUY LIKE THE, LIKE THE GAS STATIONS AND STUFF.
I SEE KIDS COMING OUT WITH BACON, EGG, AND CHEESES GOING TO THE, GOING TO THE BUS LIKE WE SAID TO DO.
OH, SHE DOESN'T ASK ME TO RUN IN THERE WITH HER FRIENDS TO GET SNACKS.
HUH? TO GO GET MILK OR GET ME SOME MILK.
GO TO THE DELI, UH, ON NINE, EIGHT OR THE GAS STATION.
I MEAN, YOU DO NOT SEE THE COMMUNITY UTILIZING THAT STORE.
WHATEVER THEY HAVE THERE, IT'S LIKE TRIPLE THE PRICE FROM ANOTHER PLACES.
THAT'S NOT, I DON'T EVEN, I TELL MY KIDS IF BOTTLE WATER, IT'S LIKE $2.
IT'S SO THEY DO HAVE PRODUCT IN? YEAH, THEY DO.
THERE'S PRODUCT, BUT THERE'S, OKAY.
BUT I THINK IT, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY RIGHT.
I S YEAH, THEY DON'T HAVE PRICE.
LIKE WHAT? THEY DON'T DON'T, I THINK WE DON'T HOW MUCH IT IS.
I THINK SOME, I THINK WE HAVE I AND HOOD AND I'M SORRY.
LA I, YEAH, BECAUSE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE EMAILS THAT I HAVE FROM ONE OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO GIVE, GIVE TO YOU BY, SHE SAID THEY'RE, THEY, THEY DON'T TAKE CARDS OR ANYTHING.
AND IF YOU WANNA PAY CASH, YOU PAY CASH.
IF YOU WANNA PAY WITH THE CARD, THEY HAVE THESE 20.
OH, THEY DON'T SCAN IN LIKE IN A REGISTER.
I'M GONNA SEND THOSE, SEND THE EMAIL.
BECAUSE THE EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED YESTERDAY FROM A RESIDENT, SHE SAID THAT THEY DON'T HAVE.
BECAUSE WHEN MY HUSBAND WENT LIKE TWO, THREE MONTHS AGO, THEY BE, I DON'T KNOW NOW.
SHE SENT THE LETTER YESTERDAY.
THEY USED TO HAVE, THEY HAVE IT FOR SOME PEOPLE AND NOT FOR OTHERS.
I DON'T, YEAH, BECAUSE WHY WOULD SHE SEND AN EMAIL THAT SAID THAT? CANDACE, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO IS WHEN YOU SEND EMAILS, 'CAUSE WHEN YOU SENT YOUR EMAIL, NO ONE'S RESPONDING TO MY EMAILS.
I WENT AND I CHECKED AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN EMAIL FROM YOU SINCE LAST I SENT, I SENT IT TO A YEAR AGO.
SO WHAT I'M GONNA SUGGEST YOU DO IS WHEN YOU WANT TO WRITE TO THE BOARD, WHICH INCLUDES PAUL, WRITE TO THE BOARD, JUST TOWN, TOWN, TOWN AT GREENBERG.
ONE EMAIL ADDRESS, ONE EMAIL ADDRESS, AND IT GETS, ALL OF US SEND IT TO US INDIVIDUALLY.
IF YOU WERE TO DO ENOUGH SMOKING ORDINANCE, WOULD THAT APPLY TO EVERY PARK THROUGHOUT THE TOWN? YES.
HOW, HOW YOU THAT'S AND THAT'S ENFORCEABLE.
TRAVIS HILL,
AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO PEGGY AND JERRY ABOUT IT.
I, THERE CAN BE AN ORDINANCE THAT JUST VANS MARIJUANA SMOKE PROJECT ON THE END OF NORTH LAWN.
THAT'S STILL, THAT'S ONE RESIDENTS.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR CYNTHIA.
UM, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS ASKED IF I COULD, UM, JUST ASK FOR AN UPDATE REGARDING THE PROPOSED PROJECT AT THE END OF NORTH LAWRENCE AND NORTH HIGH.
THEY WERE, AT ONE TIME YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A NURSING HOME OR SOMETHING OVER IN THAT AREA.
SO WE ARE HOPING THAT IT'S ARRIVAL.
AND, AND THE SIGNS THAT YOU GUYS JUST PUT UP FOR THE SPEEDING, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE EVIDENCE ARE HAPPY THAT THOSE SIGNS, THAT THOSE STOP SIGNS ARE THERE NOW TO STOP PEOPLE FROM SPEEDING DOWN KING STREET.
BUT YOU KNOW WHERE THEY STOP, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE MET WITH ALL OF THE ELEMENTS.
SO NOW MORE PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING, LIKE, DO YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? WHEN THEY MIGHT HAVE GONE UP NORWOOD ROAD OR SPED PAST AND NOT REALLY PAID ATTENTION, BUT NOW THEY'RE FORCED TO PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE THE STOP SIGN IS THERE.
YOU TURN TO THE RIGHT OR TO THE LEFT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE IS.
MORE ATTENTION TO IT MEANS, YOU KNOW, KNOW, LET ME ASK, WE WILL, WE WILL ADDRESS IT EVEN MORE.
SO WHEN I WAS OUT, YOU KNOW, ON THE PHONE, UM, IS THERE LIKE ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING DIFFERENTLY, SAY IN THE NEXT LIKE MONTH THAT WE GET TOMORROW ON THAT? ANYTHING ELSE? PEGGY ALREADY SPOKE.
NO, BUT I'M JUST, I'M JUST, I ON A DELI PROPERTY SMOKING OR SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
NO, THAT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT YOU CAN MOVE THEM OFF
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MUCH PROPERTY.IT'S VERY MUCH A NICE, I CAN, I MEAN I CAN IT IMAGINE RIGHT HERE.
I MEAN WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO WHATEVER WE CAN TO FILL AND CALL T DON'T WAS HE ON THE PHONE WHEN THEY SAID THAT? YES.
JOE, IS IT JOE OR BRIAN? IS IT UX OR D P W? WELL, COVERING THE POOL WAS PROBABLY, I KNOW I WAS OFF THE PHONE LATER.
AND THEN, AND THEN BRIAN? NO, WHEN HE, WHEN HE WAS ON THE PHONE, SHE JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
SO I DIDN'T THINK HE HEARD THAT'S HE HEARD YOU'RE RIGHT.
AND SO AND SO, BRIAN AND RICH, CAN THEY HEAR US? YEAH.
ARE WE HAVING A MEETING OR WE JUST HAVING A BUNCH OF, WE WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PUNCH LIST ON THE CAMERA.
WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PUNCH LIST FOR JERRY OF THINGS TO BE DONE.
BECAUSE JERRY HAS SOME, I THINK PEGGY HAS NO, BRIAN HAS SOME.
SO WE COULD PROBABLY, MAYBE WE JUST SEND AN EMAIL AROUND EVERYBODY.
JUST CONFIRM WE ALL CAPTURED TONIGHT.
SO THEN WE CAN JUST, AND THEN WE CAN KNOW, BE ASSIGNED AND WORK ON.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY ON PAIN STREET.
SO I WATCH TV ALL THE TIME AND I SEE THE GREENBERG SCHOOL DISTRICT.
YOU GUYS TELEVISE THE, UM, SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS.
THE SCHOOL BOARD TELEVIS, THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS SEPARATE IS MY QUESTION.
BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING, BEING THAT WE DO PAY TAXES TO GREENBERG, IS THERE ANY WAY TO WE PARTNER TO UTILIZE YOUR CABLE STATION? FOR OUR HALF OF OUR DISTRICT IS VILLAGE AND HALF IS GREENBURG.
SO WE GOT OUR MARCHING ORDERS.
THIS, THIS WAS, CAN I HAVE LIKE A TIMELINE FOR SOMETHING, SUE TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU GUYS TO SEE SOME KIND OF PROGRESS.
YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA WORK WITH LIEUTENANT HALL.
HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT YET, BUT LIEUTENANT HALL WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED.
THIS WOODS, MS. WOODS AND WHOEVER'S DOING IT, JUST ONE EMAIL AND MAYBE THEY HAVE A EMAIL AND JUST THIS, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, JUST KEEP THEM TO THE PEOPLE.
BUT SHE, BUT CANICE WAS LOOKING SOME TIME, SO WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
EVEN IF WE PUT A SIGN, MS. SIGN, YOU KNOW, UPDATES.
SO WE JUST PASS IT OVER TO YOU.
IF YOU GIVE US LIKE A VIDEO, THEN WE COULD BASICALLY, SO I'LL GET BACK WHEN YOU'LL, I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
HE WAS SPEAKING TO ME WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING TO ME.
SO YOU WANT ME TO CONTACT? YEAH.
SO YOU AND UM, LIEUTENANT HALL'S GONNA WORK WITH YOU AND CONTINUE UPDATING YOU ON EVERYTHING.
I HAVE JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.
SINCE YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN FRUSTRATED FOR SO LONG, UH, WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING, SAY, UH, TWO MONTHS FROM NOW AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND YOU TELL US IF YOU FEEL THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY, UH, THAT YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING OR WE'RE NOT.
I WAS JUST SAYING WOULD IT MAKE SENSE? I'M A TEACHER, I HEAR EVERYTHING AND THEN BASICALLY PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN YOU TELL US AND EVERYBODY, IF YOU ARE, UH, SATISFIED WITH THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEING MADE, WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE EVERYTHING.
IS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO, IS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO STOP, ENOUGH TIME TO PUT UP SIGN? I DIDN'T WANNA BE CONDESCENDING, BUT THIS, THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT PUT UP THE SIGN THAT HAD ALL OF YOUR INDIVIDUAL NAMES ON IN THE PARK THAT THEY HAD TO CARVE.
BUT THEY CAN'T PUT UP SIGNS THAT SAY NO SMOKING, NO.
BEHIND THAT PART, WORKING THAT OUT.
A CHANGE IN THE LAW BEFORE THEY DO SIGNS.
SO THAT'S, YOU CAME DOWNSTAIRS.
SO MAKE SURE, I'M SORRY TO TAKE UP SO MUCH TIME, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE TOTALLY FRUSTRATED.
WE DON'T KNOW AND WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
SO IT'S GOOD THAT YOU CAN IN THIS IS REALLY GOOD THOUGH, CANICE, HONESTLY.
AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE POOL HOURS AND ALL OF THAT AS TRUE.
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HAVE ONE MORE WHERE'S STILL AGENDA REVIEW, BUT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A YOUNG LADY, SOMEBODY IS DOING SUSTAINABILITY.SO, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING WE HAVE TO DO IS DISCUSS THE POLICING.
RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? WE HAVE TO DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY.
UM, WE DO REVIEW NEXT ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S GOTTA BE ON OR BEFORE THE 20TH.
WAITING, WAITING TODAY FOR MARIJUANA.
ARE YOU NOT GONNA NO, WE HAVE NO, SHE'S BEEN WAITING FOR TWO HOURS.
AGENDA REVIEW IS NEXT ON THE AGENDA.
CAN WE JUST GO THE AGENDA REVIEW? PLEASE? HAVE A SEAT.
ARE WE, ARE YOU READY FOR ME? OR YOU'RE OKAY.
I SENT THROUGH, UH, JUST A SUMMARY OF MY PROPOSAL TO START A SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE AND THE TIME OF GREENBERG.
UH, ONE OF THE REASONS, I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE GOT IT, BUT I DO HAVE A FEW EXTRA COPIES, BUT IT WAS JUST A ONE SHEETER.
TWO, I PRINTED OUT TWO SHEETS.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF STARTING THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR SUPPORT AND BACKGROUND, UH, WOULD BE TO, TO HELP NAVIGATE SOME OF THE MANY IMPORTANT CHANGES THAT ARE GOING ON.
BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT NEW YORK STATE HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND THEY CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR US TO REDUCE OUR CARBON EMISSIONS.
AND THAT'S NOT PARTICULARLY GREENBERG, THAT'S JUST THE STATE IN GENERAL WITHIN THAT.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THIS FIELD FOR SIX YEARS.
I STARTED OUT ON A VERY LOW LEVEL IN TERMS OF DOING ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROJECTS.
I MOVED ON TO WORK WITH A NONPROFIT OUT OF CALIFORNIA THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH PUTTING UP, UH, COMMUNITY SOLAR FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UH, DIDN'T REALLY WORK IN THE NEW YORK MARKET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET AS MUCH INCENTIVES AS CALIFORNIA DOES.
SO WE, I THEN MOVED OVER TO WORKING WITH THE ARCHDIOCESE OF NEW YORK, UH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN EXTREMELY OLD BUILDING STOCK.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE IN TERMS OF MAKING THOSE BUILDINGS ENERGY EFFICIENT.
BUT THROUGHOUT THAT, I'VE ALSO BEEN A SUBCONTRACTOR FOR NYSERDA, WHICH IS A NEW YORK SENATE'S, NEW YORK STATE ENERGY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
MY JOB THERE, AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY EARLY JOBS, WAS TO LEARN THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAD AND GO INTO COMMUNITIES.
MY REGION WAS THE BRONX AND HOME, AND I HAD TO GO TO COMMUNITY BOARD MEETINGS AND SPEAK TO THEM ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT WOULD FIT WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY.
NOW THIS WAS, I WAS VERY NEW AND I WAS INTERESTED IN EVERYTHING.
I THOUGHT I WOULD LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT SOLAR, EVERYTHING ABOUT HEAT PUMPS, EVERYTHING ABOUT C H P.
SO I REALLY STARTED GETTING INTO IT AND REALIZING WHAT WAS MY, WHAT WAS I REALLY GOOD AT? I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THE TECHNOLOGY.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM VERY GOOD AT IS GETTING THE MONEY AND GETTING THE MONEY THAT FITS PARTICULAR PROGRAMS, AND THEN ALSO STAYING ABREAST OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE COMING OUT.
SO I'VE BEEN WANTING TO COME TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR A WHILE, BUT I, I SORT OF HELD BACK BECAUSE OF LIKE, WHAT BENEFIT COULD YOU BRING BEFORE YOU STEP IN THERE? I MEAN, IS THE IDEA OF, OH, I WANT TO DO THIS, BUT REALLY WHAT BENEFIT CAN I BRING? AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, WITH THE CONNECTIONS THAT I'VE MADE, AND, UM, BECAUSE IF I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW SOMEONE WHO DOES KNOW AND I KNOW WHERE TO FIND THAT INFORMATION.
AND THE FACT THAT I HAVE NO PROBLEM STAYING UP TILL TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND TALKING ABOUT IT, MY FRIENDS, AND I THINK THIS IS GREAT STUFF.
UM, AND THIS IS WHERE I'M AT, THAT NOW I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT I CAN COMMIT THE TIME.
COMMIT THE TIME TO SERVE GREENBERG IN THAT TYPE OF WAY WITH THE COMMITTEE.
THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS LESLIE SITTING HERE SAYING THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW PEOPLE IN THE TOWN AND EVEN SOME OF THE MEETINGS THAT I'VE LISTENED TO WHERE PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR INTEREST OR, OR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING FOR IT, OR THE FACT THAT THEY DO UNDERSTAND IT.
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THOSE ARE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT I WANTED TO TAP.BUT I REALLY DID WANT TO SEE IF THERE WAS A NEED FOR IT OR IF YOU GUYS FELT THERE WAS A NEED FOR IT, OR IF YOU WOULD ALLOW A PILOT JUST TO SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT IS USEFUL TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THEN BUILD OUT.
UM, I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL TO HAVE LIKE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE CONSERVATION.
LET'S SAY YOU WERE ON THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY AND THEN YOU BECOME THE CHAIR OF SAY, A SUSTAINABILITY, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE.
BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ON THE, ON THAT COMMITTEE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN SUSTAINABILITY.
UH, SO IT WOULDN'T REALLY BE DUPLICATING, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S IN HERE.
BECAUSE THE THING WITH WORKING WITH THE CONSERVATION COMMITTEE, AND I'VE SEEN LIKE RECENTLY, THEY JUST HAD TO DO A WHOLE RESEARCH THING ON THE BATTERY STORAGE.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, SOME OF IT SAYS, WHAT DEPARTMENTS WOULD I AFFECT IF I WERE DOING THIS? IT WOULD BE, I WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CONSERVATION COMMITTEE.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PART OF THAT.
SO LET'S SAY PAUL SAYS, OH, LESLIE, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT A COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECT? YOU KNOW, A BIG MEGAWATT PROJECT.
THE CONSERVATION COMMITTEE HAS TO LOOK AT THE WETLANDS.
THE CONSERVATION COMMITTEE IS GONNA HAVE TO DO ALL OF THAT WORK.
I'M SOLELY FOCUSED MORE ON THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, THE SUSTAINABILITY, AND SORT OF REALLY DOING A DEEP DIVE INTO THAT PART OF IT.
SO YEAH, SAYING THAT LIKE I HAVE, IF WE COULD GET, I THINK THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE ELECTRIC CHARGING STATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING PEOPLE WITH MORE INFORMATION ON, UH, HOW TO GET THE SOLAR.
WE, MY BROTHER-IN-LAW, THEY, THEY'VE MESSED UP THEIR BOILER, THE, WITH THE HURRICANE AND, UM, UH, THERE'S FUNDING THAT HE WAS LOOKING AT GEOTHERMAL AND OTHER THINGS.
AND YES, GOVERNMENT PAYS, LIKE, KIND OF PAYS LIKE 50 TH THANK HE TOLD THE WHOLE THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF ALL THESE INCENTIVES.
SO I FEEL THAT IT COULD BE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING WOULD BE REALLY GREAT UNDER, THE ONLY REASON I SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, THE SUBCOMMITTEE INITIALLY MM-HMM.
LIKE THERE'S PEOPLE LIKE NINA ORVILLE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO'S REALLY INVOLVED, WHO LIVES IN, YOU KNOW, DOBBS FERRY.
MAYBE SHE WOULD WANT TO GET, I KNOW SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, I KNOW YOU HAVE, UH, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FROM IRVINGTON.
I ALSO WANT TO TALK TO THE NATURE CENTER.
I KNOW THAT YOU DID A LOT WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE WHOLE, WELL THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE WHOLE WESTCHESTER REGION.
YOU KNOW, I SAW YOUR NAME UP HERE.
I I KNOW THOMAS MADDEN WHEN HE WAS HERE.
YOU GUYS DID A LOT OF WORK ON THAT.
AND I SORT OF, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID THAT WAS KEY IS REALLY BRINGING ALL THE INFORMATION.
'CAUSE IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO CON EDISON HAS INFORMATION, NYSERDA HAS INFORMATION, THIS ONE HAS INFORMATION.
BUT BEING ABLE TO MAYBE BRING IT INTO ONE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LOOK AND SAY, AND I WOULD BE WILLING, YOU KNOW, TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER WHERE THEY CAN LOOK AND SAY, OH, OKAY, THESE ARE THE NEW INCENTIVES THAT ARE COMING OUT.
ALSO BE REALLY GREAT BECAUSE I WAS AT THE NATURE CENTER ON SUNDAY.
THEY HAD THIS HALLOWEEN THING AND HAD ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE THERE.
AND, UM, AND IT WAS LIKE, FANTASTIC.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BEST I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH IT WAS ACTUALLY TWO DAYS.
DID YOU GO BOTH SATURDAY AND THEN SUNDAY? I SPENT ABOUT THREE HOURS THERE.
AND WHEN I SPOKE TO ALEX, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY REALLY NEED IS THEY HAVE TO NOW TRY GETTING OLDER PEOPLE, NOT ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE FIVE YEAR OLDS, YOU KNOW, TO LIKE THE NATURE CENTER, DO MORE EDUCATION.
SO MAYBE ONE THOUGHT WOULD BE NOT ONLY TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE TOWN, BUT MAYBE TO GET ON THE BOARD OF THE NATURE CENTER.
BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF THE NATURE CENTER WOULD ALMOST SPEARHEAD, UM, A SUSTAINABILITY EFFORT FOR THE NATURE CENTER.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, THE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE INTERESTED IN THE NATURE CENTER ARE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT BE AS INTERESTED IN GETTING INVOLVED IN, YOU KNOW, WITH A, WITH A TOWN, IT'S LIKE A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, GROUP OF PEOPLE.
I THINK IT COULD BE REALLY SUCCESSFUL.
AND THEN NATURE CENTER COULD BE SPONSORING, UH, YOU KNOW, FORUMS, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, UH, INFORMATION.
THIS IS A WAY OF REALLY HELPING THE NATURE CENTER BE REALLY BE REALLY SUCCESSFUL AND RELEVANT.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT, I THINK LIKE I WAS LIKE SO AMAZED AT THE EVENT THAT THEY HAD.
I NEVER, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE, SO, YOU KNOW, I WENT WITH MY WIFE TO THE BOTANICAL GARDENS LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO.
THE THE NATURE CENTER EVENT WAS LOOKED, YOU KNOW, THE GROUNDS WERE MUCH NICER THAN THE BOTANICAL GARDENS.
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I WASN'T EVEN, I JUST WENT BY BY CHANCE.YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT DOING, THEY'RE NOT GETTING, REACHING OUT TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
SO I'D SAY IF YOU DO BOTH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT.
WELL, STARTING OFF, I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE AN UNBIASED AND AGNOSTIC MEETING.
I AM NOT WORKING WITH ANY PARTICULAR VENDOR.
I'M NOT WORKING TO PUSH ANY PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGY, UH, OTHER THAN WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE IN THE TOWN.
SO WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? YEAH, I I, I, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT I, I THINK EVERYTHING YOU'RE OFFERING IS LIKE, MAY IS FANTASTIC.
LESLIE, THIS SUMMER WE HAD 34 INTERNS HERE, AND THEY WERE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FROM THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, BUT A LARGE MAJORITY OF THEM WERE FROM EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN SUSTAINABILITY.
THEY PRODUCED A VIDEO ON WHAT THEY FELT, UM, WHAT THEIR, THEIR CONCERNS WERE ABOUT, UM, AROUND THAT WHOLE ISSUE FROM A, FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE.
SO I'M SHARING THAT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AS AD AGENTS OFTEN ALWAYS TARGET AUDIENCES TO, TO GET THEIR PRODUCTS ACROSS MM-HMM.
WE ABSOLUTELY DO, DO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IN PARTICULAR.
BECAUSE THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
AND I'M NOT, UM, IT SAYING EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL EXCLUSIVELY.
BUT THERE, THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE FROM EDGEMONT LEY, UH, ELMSFORD, UM, HASTINGS IN OUR PROGRAM.
I DON'T WANT TO TELL US, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I DID OUTREACH MM-HMM.
SO HERE'S WHAT THE KIDS WOULD DO.
MOMMY, YOU HAVE TO READ THIS, YOU HAVE TO SIGN THIS, YOU HAVE TO BE THERE.
BECAUSE THEY'RE GROWING UP WITH SUSTAINABILITY.
UNLIKE, I MEAN, NOT TO SAY THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT WE WEREN'T AS INVOLVED.
THEY ARE LIVING AND BREATHING IT.
I THINK IT'S MAKING ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE
AND ONE OF HIS GOALS IS TO CREATE A RECYCLING, UM, LIKE
IT COULD BE ON TEXAS ROAD OR IF IT WOULD BE A LOCATION, A PERMANENT LOCATION.
SCARSDALE DOES AN AMAZING JOB WITH A RECYCLING CENTER WHERE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DROP OFF FURNITURE, YOU COULD DROP OFF OLD BICYCLES THAT PEOPLE COULD JUST PICK UP IF THEY, IF THEY WANTED.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GREAT.
WE SHOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING.
THE OTHER THING WITH YOUR COMMITTEE, UM, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE GOOD IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN LIKE STRUGGLING WITH ORGANIC CURBSIDE PICKUP OF ORGANIC RECYCLING, BUT I'M SPEAKING LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND IT WOULD COST US LIKE $300,000 TO, YOU KNOW, OR, OR MORE TO SET UP LIKE A, A REAL GREAT CURBSIDE THING.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT BECAUSE MAYBE WE'RE MISSING THE BOAT.
MAYBE WE'RE NOT, WE MAY BE, I THINK THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR ORGANIC, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ORGANICS.
UM, SOME OPPORTUNITY MAY BE ON THE COMMERCIAL OR EVEN FOR PROFIT, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE SOMEBODY, PEOPLE ARE USING THE ORGANIC WASTE TO MAKE FERTILIZERS TO MAKE ORGANIC FERTILIZERS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I, IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC ORGANIC WASTE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, BUT THERE'S WAYS SOMETIMES TO MONETIZE OUR WASTE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMEBODY IN HASTINGS, SOME HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES FROM HASTINGS HIGH SCHOOL, THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BUSINESS.
AND UH, AND THAT'S LIKE A WAY OF ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE USING THEM WHERE INSTEAD OF THE TOWN DOING IT ALL AND SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, WE COULD MAYBE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH A PRIVATE GROUP OF RECENT GRADUATES, YOU KNOW, TO DO THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE LIKE, AMAZING.
SO WHAT SHOULD THE NEXT STEPS BE FOR LESLIE? FOR YEAH.
I, WELL, I THINK I, SPEAKING FROM THE, I THINK THE EASIEST THING IS TO INITIALLY, BECAUSE WE COULD ALWAYS, THE, IT COULD ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, GROW INTO LIKE A, A STANDALONE COMMITTEE.
I WOULD THINK THAT THE FIRST THING WOULD BE TO DO LIKE A, A SUBCOMMITTEE OF, UH, OF THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED ANY APPROVALS FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IT IS, YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SPEAK TO, UH, THE C A
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C COMMITTEE.YOU KNOW, I COULD SPEAK, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO THEM.
SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THREE MONTHS FROM NOW OR FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW, IF YOU WANNA DO A STAND, YOU KNOW, YOUR OWN STANDALONE COMMITTEE, THEN UH, YOU COULD, BUT IF YOU HAVE A
WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN JOINING THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL? I, I, I SUPPOSE I WOULD HAVE TO, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT MY WHEELHOUSE IS THE SUSTAINABILITY AND THE I PIECE.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BECOME A SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU WOULD'VE TO BE PART OF COMMITTEE.
SO, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING BECAUSE IT'S FULL.
WELL, I DON'T, IT'S FULL RIGHT NOW.
WE COULD ASK THE, I MEAN, WE COULD ALWAYS FORM OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEE IF, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT.
I JUST FEEL THAT, THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SO INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.
THAT WAS NEVER, I DID WANT MEET WITH THEM BECAUSE CAN'T, I CAN'T, WHEN WE SAY STANDALONE, YES, IT WOULD BE ABOUT ENERGY EFFICIENCY, BUT NONE OF THIS STANDS WE DO.
WE HAVE TO SPEAK TO THEM AND SEE WHAT IT'S NOT.
I'M NOT AGAINST HAVING A COMMITTEE, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I EASIER.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU MEET WITH THEM AND THEN JUST TELL US WHAT YOU WANT.
YOU COULD COME UP AND FORM A COMMITTEE AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT, THEN YOU COULD RECRUIT MEMBERS FOR THE COMMITTEE IF YOU WANT.
BECAUSE I WILL NEED SOME MEMBERS.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT COMMITTEE WHO REALLY ARE QUITE, AND THEN I COULD, I'LL GIVE YOU SOME OTHER NAMES.
YOU KNOW, KEEP, FIND, YOU SHOULD SPEAK TO AN JAFF HOLMES, YOU KNOW HER AND, UH, IN IRVINGTON, A LOT OF STUFF'S GOING ON.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HASTING.
I, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHIN GREENBURG THAT ARE VERY SMART AND VERY CAPABLE OF HELPING TO REALLY, UM, ACTUALLY GET IT OFF THE GROUND AND THEN, UM, COMMIT TO IT FOR OVER A PERIOD OF TIME SO THAT WE CAN SEE SOME PROJECTS GO THROUGH.
WE CAN PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE AND YOU COULD JUST SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO FORM.
AND YOU WANT TO HAVE A, A, A MEETING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING.
AND I'M SURE YOU'D GET A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO JUNE'S POINT, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO, IN, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE THINKING ONE WEEK, TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS OUT, UM, FIRST HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CONSERVATION COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, COULD, CAN I, A SUGGESTION, WHY DON'T YOU LIKE EMAIL ME SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE, UH, WHAT YOU'D LIKE, YOU KNOW, TO DO.
AND THEN I'LL REACH OUT TO THE, YOU KNOW, I'LL SEND IT TO THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY, UH, COMMITTEE, ASK THEM TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MEET WITH YOU.
AND THEN YOU CAN COME BACK AND THEN YOU CAN TELL US WHAT WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE A GOOD NEXT STEP.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE A COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
AND SO WE WOULD'VE TO GET HIM INVOLVED, RIGHT.
AND SEE WHERE ALL OF THIS FITS IN.
BECAUSE THERE'S A PUZZLE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THERE MAY BE OVERLAPPING PIECES.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT HAS TO DO THAT.
STILL DISCUSSION, REALIZE, THINK ABOUT JOINING THE BOARD OF THE NATURE.
SOMETHING YOU'D BE LIKE, YOU'RE DOING REALLY? THAT'S ANOTHER GROUP.
WELL, THE THE THING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ALEX.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND WE GIVE YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
BECAUSE THERE, THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT HAPPENING.
WANNA DO, I WANNA DO SOME THINGS THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING.
AND I'M SURE SHE'D LOVE TO HEAR IT.
THAT'S WHAT I, YOU'RE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.
ISN'T IT FUNNY THAT OUR TOWN HAS THE PERFECT NAME FOR IT? GREEN.
UM, I WON'T SEND OUT ANYTHING.
NOW WE'RE DOING A GENERAL REVIEW.
WE START THE, DECIDE ON THE DATE DECEMBER BEFORE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET.
WE HAVE TO DO IT BEFORE THE 20TH.
YOU DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL THE 20TH 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE A PROBLEM.
SO LET'S SEE THE, SO WE HAVE ONE ON THE EIGHTH.
THE OTHER NEXT ONE IS THE, THE 22ND OR THE 29TH.
THAT NOW THEY USUALLY WE HAVE A MEETING BEFORE THAT.
'CAUSE YOU, THE BUDGET HAS TO BE PASSED
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BY BY THE 20TH.BUT WE DON'T WANNA WAIT UNTIL THE 20TH.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A SNOWSTORM, THEN YOU'RE REALLY STUCK.
SO CAN WE GO TO NEXT WEEK THE 15TH? YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.
WELL, YES, BUT THE ONLY THING IS DON'T WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CONFLICTING WITH ANYBODY ELSE.
THE MEETING, THAT'S A WEDNESDAY.
NO, I KNOW IT'S PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
YOU MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER DOING IT TUESDAY THE 14TH.
YOU HAVE A WORK SESSION AND THEN GO INTO THE, UH, TOWN BOARD MEETING THAT'S OFTEN KNOWN.
THE 20TH IS A MONDAY, SO IT'S GONNA BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT WEEK, THE 13TH.
ANY OTHER PLANNING? ANYBODY ELSE IS GOING WINS ZONING, BOARD MEETING.
I'LL, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE RECEIVED MY EMAIL OR HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE EMAIL, UH, REGARDING THE REQUEST FROM, UM,
CHIEF HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THE STREET CLOSURE.
HE DOES HAVE A PROBLEM WITH USING THE, HAVING THE BOUNCY CASTLE OUT ON THE STREET AND HE RECOMMENDED THAT THAT NOT BE APPROVED.
THAT THE RESIDENTS BE ASKED TO PUT THAT ON ONE OF THEIR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
AND, UM, I, I THINK THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.
I THINK WE REMAIN SILENT ON THE BOUNCY CA CASTLE BECAUSE WE SAY TO PUT A BOUNCY COUNCIL ON A PRODUCT OR PROPERTY AND THERE'S AN ACCIDENT.
WE JUST LEAVE IT SILENT AND LET THEM PUT
JUST SAY THAT IT CAN'T BE ON THE STREET.
LET THEM DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DOVE STREET.
WE'VE NEVER GONE AGAINST THE POLICE USE.
AND I ADDED A, UH, A STREET TO BE CLOSED ON, ON CL FIVE BECAUSE IT'S, UH, ACTUALLY THREE BLOCKS ARE HAVING A BLOCK PARTY.
BUT WHEN I LOOK IT UP ON THE MAP, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS FOR THE CHILDREN TO GET FROM ONE BLOCK TO THE OTHER.
SO I SPOKE TO THE ORGANIZER AND WE CLOSE OFF ONE OF THE LEGS, SO TO SPEAK.
SO CHILDREN CAN GO WITHOUT TRAFFIC.
AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK ON GOOGLE MAPS, WHICH IS WHAT I DO, I NORMALLY DO ON THESE STREET CLOSINGS, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A WOMAN WITH A BABY CARRIAGE IN THE STREET WITH A CAR GOING BY.
AND OF COURSE HALLOWEEN PARADE WILL BE AT NIGHT, SO MM-HMM.
AND HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T GET TERRIBLE RAIN LIKE TODAY.
DID UM, GARRETT DO ANY MORE, UH, MEMOS IN TERMS OF THE MARIJUANA LEGISLATION? HE DID? THE F A Q, UH, WHICH THERE'S A REALLY GOOD F A Q FROM THE STATE THAT'S VERY INFORMATIVE.
UH, BUT I THINK THERE ARE FIVE OR SIX DOCUMENTS UP THERE.
IT'S PLENTY FOR PEOPLE TO READ.
AND THE MAIN POINT WE'RE TRYING TO GET ACROSS IS, UH, LIKE WE HEARD EARLIER, PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET UPSET WHEN THEY SMELL MARIJUANA, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
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IT IS LEGAL TO SMOKE MARIJUANA AND HAVE THAT ODOR, UM, DISSIPATE TO SURROUNDING PEOPLE, NEIGHBORS, WHATEVER.UH, WHAT WE'RE SOLELY BEING ASKED IS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT, THERE CAN BE DISPENSARIES OR LOUNGES WHERE IT'S, UH, WHERE IT'S SOLD.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M THINK WHAT I'VE WOULD BE HELPFUL IS OF WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OPTION OF HAVING SAY, ONE ZONE WHERE WE WOULD ALLOW IT, MAYBE HAVING A ILLUSTRATION WHERE A MAP IS SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T SEE EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, MY IS OPT OUT.
I THINK A LOT OF PLACES HAVE OPTED OUT.
NO, I'M JUST, YOU CAN ALWAYS OPT IN.
WELL, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT IF WE OPT, IF WE BASICALLY SAY YOU COULD HAVE IT SAY A CAPTAIN LAWRENCE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING IN THAT, IN THAT AREA, THEN SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MAY SAY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT PAYNE STREET OR, UH, OR YOU KNOW, WHERE, OR ELECTRIC DIS OLD, THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MAKING IT CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, MY AREA.
SO I'D JUST LIKE PEOPLE TO HAVE AN UNDER A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT THREE OPTIONS ARE.
YOU OPT OUT, OPT IN, YOU CAN OPT OUT BY 1231, BUT YOU CAN OPT OUT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT YOU CAN OPT IN AT ANY TIME.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, THE THING TO DO IS, IS OPT OUT, WHICH SEVERAL MUNICIPALITIES HAVE DONE UNTIL, UNTIL THE LAW GETS MUCH.
AND THAT MIGHT BE THE THING TO DO.
WELL, THE COMMISSION WAS JUST ESTABLISHED TO COME UP WITH THE REGULATIONS I THINK TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO.
THEY EXPECT TO HAVE THE REGULATIONS IN 2020 SOMETIME.
UH, BUT WE'RE BEING ASKED DECIDE OPT OUT OR OPT IN BASICALLY IN 2021.
IF WE OPT IN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE OPTING INTO AREN'T.
WHY DON'T WE JUST OPT THAT WAY? I THINK I, I THINK WE SHOULD OPT OUT MORE INFORMATION.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S, WELL, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE WELL NO, I, RIGHT.
BUT I THINK A LOT OF EMAILS COME IN ABOUT OPTING OUT.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S, I'VE SEEN ON, UH, DECEMBER 15TH IS A THREE NIGHT, IS IT THREE NINTH? DECEMBER 15TH DECEMBER.
SO WE DO DECEMBER 15TH ON A WEDNESDAY FOR THE DECEMBER 2ND DECEMBER MEETING.
DID WE, DID WE OFFICIALLY, UM, DECIDE WHICH PEOPLE TO PASS ON WHICH, UM, APPOINTMENTS TO MAKE TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS? DISCUSS, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT OPEN SESSION OR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING AGENDA REVIEW.
SO WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION ALSO.
HOW MANY THIS IS JUDGE, TAKE YOU ANYTHING FROM MY ACCOUNT? I THOUGHT TO GET RID OF IT, I CAN PUT IT BACK EASILY.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT AN INDIAN GIVER.
CAN'T SAY INDIAN GIVER ANYMORE.
I'M NOT GONNA TAKE, I'M NOT GONNA GET TO TAKE THAT SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
A CHINESE, NO, I CAN'T SAY CHINESE WALL.
BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT, I'M SORRY, JUST BEFORE WE GET OFF TOPIC, JUST FOR THE LATE HOUR, IS THERE ANY MORE CHANGES TO THE AGENDA SO WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE WE MOVE ON? SO FRANCIS, DID YOU FINISHING UP, DID YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO EITHER, UH, ANDY
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VIVIANO OR UM, VICTOR ROI ABOUT 81? OH, I DID NOT.YEAH, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S, YOU MAY NOT HAVE, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH HAVING A DISCUSSION.
AND THEN I, I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME CONDONING A DEPARTMENT HEAD ON HIS OR HER OWN SPENDING TOWN TAXPAYER MONEY AUTHORIZING A SINGLE CONSULTANT TO DO WORK AND THEN COME ALONG WITH THE CONSULTANT, COMES ALONG LATER AND SAYS, I EXPECT TO GET PAID.
AND PARTICULARLY WHEN THAT PERSON KNOWS HOW THE TOWN OPERATES AND IT HAS TO BE BY TOWN BOARD RESOLUTION, UH, HAVING SAYING, YOU KNOW, SO THERE WAS REALLY NO DISCUSSION ABOUT QUALIFICATIONS, BIDS, NOTHING.
IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENT HEAD SAY, GO AHEAD, DO THE WORK, WE'LL PAY YOU.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW I VOTE FOR IT AND NOT ENDORSE THAT BEHAVIOR.
WELL I MEAN THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IS GONE NOW AND YOU GOT A GUY OUT THERE WHO HASN'T BEEN PAID AND, UM, THE WORK, I THINK $40,000 OF THE WORK WAS AUTHORIZED.
HE, UM, GOT 25 OF IT, BUT THEN DID ADDITIONAL WORK BEYOND THE 40, WHICH APPARENTLY VICTOR AUTHORIZED AND ANDY VIVIANO AND D V W WILL SAY HE DID, HE DID THE WORK.
YOU KNOW, SO WE GOTTA DECIDE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WE GOTTA DECIDE HOW TO HANDLE THAT.
'CAUSE I SUSPECT AT SOME POINT HE'S GONNA SHOW UP HERE AT A MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND UM, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO JUST COME TO A DECISION OR A DISCUSSION AND WORK IT OUT BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.
SO WHAT CAN WE PUT IN PLACE SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN? I MEAN, THAT USUALLY DOESN'T HAPPEN.
AND I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT PROCEDURES ARE IN PLACE NOW.
AND THIS WAS A LAWSUIT, YOU KNOW, INVOLVING WATER GOING UNDERNEATH SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AND WE, WE ADDRESSED THAT.
BUT, UM, I JUST THINK THAT THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WAS DONE WAS NEVER FORMALLY APPROVED BUT NECESSARY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME THERE'S A STOP GAP SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN NOW NO ONE WOULD, WOULD DO THAT.
WAS THERE AN AGREEMENT, AN ADDITIONAL AGREEMENT PUT TO
HE, HE DIDN'T GET AUTHORIZATION FOR IT.
HE, YOU KNOW, HE MEANT TO, AND THEN HE LEFT, YOU KNOW.
SO, UM, VICTOR ACKNOWLEDGES THAT HE APPROVED THE WORK.
AND ANDY DEVIANO, WHO'S STILL HERE, SAYS YESTERDAY HE'S DONE THE WORK, HE'S DONE A LOT OF WORK FOR THE TOWN.
SO, I MEAN, YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THE BACKGROUND ON IT.
THE RESOLUTION SHOULD LAY OUT ALL OF THIS AND HOW WE CAN CONDONE WE, UH, CONDEMN THAT TYPE OF AUTHORIZATION AND STEPS WILL BE IN PLACE.
BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A TERRIBLE PRECEDENT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IS SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA SAY BUT DONE OVER THERE AND, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAXPAYER MONEY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT GETTING THE BOARD INVOLVED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS A FAIR PROCESS OF SELECTING THE PERSON.
THIS PERSON WAS ALREADY SELECTED APPARENTLY, BUT JUST CONTINUED TO DO WORK PAST THE AUTHORIZED AMOUNT.
THIS GUY'S NOT A NOVICE, THIS GUY'S REALLY SMART.
HE'S REALLY GOOD AT HIS JOB TOO.
AND HE KNOWS THAT WHEN RESOLUTIONS SAY YOU CANNOT EXCEED THAT, THEY CAN'T EXCEED WHETHER HE ACCEPTED, UH, AN HE DID NOT UNAUTHORIZED WORK.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S A COMPLICATION AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMISSION.
WE SHOULD CROSS AND TAKE AWAY VICTOR'S PENSION.
I ARE WE GOOD FAR AS WE, UM, MISS IT AGENDA? I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
SO I KNOW WE'RE HAVING A HYBRID, UH, PUBLIC DISCUSSION TOMORROW.
IS THAT WANT? WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT A SHOT.
WE TRIED FOR TONIGHT, BUT THEN WE WERE, IT WASN'T WORKING EXECUTIVE SESSIONS AND THEN WE WERE MOVED OUT OF THE MAIN ROOM INTO THE SIDE ROOM HERE WHERE IT'S NOT REALLY EQUIPPED FOR DOING THIS.
YEAH, WE WERE GONNA, NO, BECAUSE OKAY.
AND HOW LONG ARE WE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SPEAK DURING THAT PUBLIC DISCUSSION PERIOD? IT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULDN'T BE TO THE SAME.
THEY WOULDN'T BE, IT'S NORMALLY FIVE MINUTES.
YEAH, BUT IT, IT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME RULES REGARDLESS.
WHY DON'T WE MAKE IT THREE MINUTES? I THINK.
MAYBE BECAUSE PEOPLE FIVE MINUTES IS A LONG TIME TO DISCUSS.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
NO, IT'S EVERYBODY BASICALLY IS PRETTY SURE THAT WE'RE GONNA WATCH
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OUT THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE DRAG THIS ON AND ON.WELL, THERE'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT FORMAT A LITTLE BIT.
THERE'S GONNA BE A WEBINAR, UH, AND PEOPLE WILL, YOU KNOW, MAKE PRESENT THEIR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO SAY.
UH, EVERYBODY WILL UH, BE ABLE TO SIGN ON, LISTEN, UH, HEAR, UH, WATCH, UH, THE MEETING.
AND THEN WHEN EACH PERSON IS CALLED INDIVIDUALLY, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK IT OUT WHEN THEY RAISE THEIR HAND.
AND WE'LL JUST GO WITH YOU, RAISE YOUR HAND ON ZOOM.
IT PUTS YOU IN THE PARTICIPANT LIST IN THE ORDER THAT YOU RAISE THEIR HAND.
IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO JUST TAKE THEM OUT AS THEY THEIR HAND HAND UP.
SO, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL PUT SOMETHING OUT ABOUT THAT WHEN WE UH, OKAY.
SO PAUL, DO YOU WANT TO UH, MOTION AND GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION? YEAH.
INVOLVING, WHAT IS IT? RIGHT? I THINK WE HAVE TO DISCUSS WHAT'S, WHAT ARE THE ISSUES? LIKE ONE'S A LEGAL ISSUE WITH UH, IT DOESN'T SAY FOR THE LAST NO, THAT I KNOW THAT, BUT I THINK TIM IS SAYING RIGHT NOW.
OH, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S A LEGAL DISCUSSION INVOLVING UM, PAPER STREETS, THE MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE OF PAPER STREETS AND I THINK THERE'S ALSO A PERSONAL DISCUSSION INVOLVING A PARTICULAR PERSON AHEAD.
SO MAYBE WE CAN DO THE PAPER STREETS FIRST SINCE YOU GOT PEGGY AND YOU'VE GOT UH, RIGHT.
RICHARD, LET ME KNOW WE OFF CAMERA.
'CAUSE I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO EAT.
I CAN'T JANELLE, YOU WANNA CONFIRM WITH HER VOTE? YOU WANNA CONFIRM WITH ALL IN FAVOR? AYE SECOND.
GONNA LET JAN KNOW DIANE AND SHE CAN LEAVE I GUESS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT COMING BACK.
HELLO? SHOULD HAVE GONE TO THE FOOD TRUCK.