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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AGENDA MEETING TO BE HELD VIA ZOOM-ENABLED VIDEO CONFERENCE THURSDAY, October 14, 2021 - 7:30 P.M. ]
IS THE TOWN OF GREENBURY CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14TH.IT'S SEVEN 30, UH, 6:00 PM UM, UH, LET'S SEE.
I THINK ALL MEMBERS ARE HERE EXCEPT, UH, LAUREN POWELL.
AND, UM, I THINK THE FIRST ITEM AND OF, UH, WE NEED TO DISCUSS IS WHO IS GONNA DO THE MINUTES? NANCY DID THE LAST MINUTES.
SO I GUESS IT'S UP TO LIZ AND GEORGE WHO WANTS TO DO, WHO, WHO IS DYING TO DO THE MINUTES FOR THIS TIME VOTING FOR GEORGE, BECAUSE I'M LEAVING EARLY TOMORROW MORNING AND I WON'T BE BACK TILL MONDAY NIGHT, SO I'LL PROBABLY FORGET TO TYPE THEM UP.
I, I'LL BE, GEORGE, DO YOU MIND DOING THEM? I DON'T MIND DOING THEM AT ALL.
AND THIS SHOULD BE A RELATIVELY SHORT MEETING.
THE FIRST ITEM, UH, OF OFFICIAL BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES NANCY DID FOR, UH, SEPTEMBER 23RD.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? OKAY, I, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE, UH, THE MINUTES AS, AS DRAFTED.
CORRESPONDENCE? NONE THAT I KNOW OF.
WE AND WATERCOURSE PERMIT REFERRALS? NONE THAT I KNOW OF.
ONGOING ITEMS. ELMWOOD, UM, UH, GARRETT HAS INFORMED US THAT THE APPLICANT IS STILL WORKING ON WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO BE THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AFTER THE APPLICANT FINISHES THAT IT'LL BE REVIEWED BY CHAZEN.
UH, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER YET ON THE ISSUE THAT, UH, OF THE MULTIPLE REQUESTS AT LEAST THREE, I THINK IF MAYBE MORE, THAT THE C A C HAS MADE.
UM, WHAT SHARON? NO, I'M SORRY.
I, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE MULTIPLE REQUESTS OF WHICH AT LEAST I THINK IT WERE THREE, UM, THAT, UH, THE C A C, UH, HAVE A BRIEF OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW A DRAFT OF THE FINAL E I SS, BECAUSE IT BEFORE IS FILED AS A, UM, UM, BEFORE IS FILED AS THE FINAL E I S AND WE'VE MADE A REQUEST SEVERAL TIMES GOING BACK SINCE ALMOST THE BEGINNING OF 2021.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT.
UM, THE OTHER ITEM UNDER, UM, ELMWOOD IS, UM, LAUREN WAS TO PREPARE A, UM, UH, SHE VOLUNTEERED, UH, SINCE SHE'S IN THE, SHE'S A LICENSED REAL ESTATE, UH, BROKER TO, TO PREPARE AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT HOUSES, UH, UH, NEW, UM, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, UH, UH, IN CLOSE TO THE VICINITY OF, OF ELM OF THE PROPOSED ELMWOOD PROJECT, WHAT THEY, UM, UH, ARE SELLING FOR THESE DAYS.
AND, UH, UM, I SENT HER AN EMAIL ABOUT A WEEK AGO IN PREPARATION OF THIS MEETING, ASKING, UH, FOR THE STATUS OF THAT.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD, I CHECKED WITH TERRY AND TERRY SAID SHE HADN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING.
AND THEN I SENT THEN, THEN WE, TERRY, I DECIDED I SHOULD SEND LAURA A AN EMAIL.
SO I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM, FROM, FROM, FROM LAUREN IS THE STATUS OF THAT.
AND, UH, SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, SO IF SHE COMES ON LATER, WE CAN ASK HER.
BUT, UH, WE HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE, UH, ONCE THIS THING STARTS GOING, IT'LL MOVE FAST.
AND THIS TRAIN ISN'T GONNA STOP FOR US TO DO AN ANALYSIS.
SO WE WANNA HAVE AN, EVERYBODY KNOWS THE PRICES ARE RUNNING LIKE CRAZY.
UM, PEOPLE WHO HAVE, UH, DEALS, YOU KNOW, UM, CONTRACTS IN AUGUST, THE APPRAISALS ARE COMING IN LOWER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FINANCING APPRAISALS BASED ON LIKE JULY AND JUNE ARE COMING IN SO MUCH LOWER THAN THE PRICES IN AUGUST, THAT MORTGAGE, YOU'RE FREEZING.
AND MARGARET, HOW RENEGOTIATE, OH, SORRY, MARGARET.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS VERY INTERESTING, BUT YOU FROZE.
YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE APPRAISALS
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IN JULY AND THEN YOU FROZE.SO, SO I, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS, CAN YOU, CAN, AM I ALIVE NOW? YEAH, I, UM, SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS PRICES ARE RUNNING SO FAST RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUBURBS AROUND US, THAT IF YOU WANT FINANCING, YOU NEED TO GET AN APPRAISAL, RIGHT? AND THE APPRAISALS ARE BASED ON PRIOR SALES, COUPLE MONTHS AGO, SALES APPRAISALS COMING IN LOWER THAN THE AGREED UPON CONTRACT PRICES AND PEOPLE HAVING TO RENEGOTIATE THE FINAL SALES PRICE DOWN SELLERS, BECAUSE THE MARKET IS SO RED HOT RUNNING SO FAST.
WHEN YOU SAY RUNNING, YOU MEAN PRICE INCREASE? YEAH.
LIKE 1,000,008 IN JULY IS NOW 2.8.
IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S A RED HOT BUBBLE OF A MARKET.
SO I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT SHE'S, SHE'S FINDING.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR ANALYSIS OF, UH, ELMWOOD PROJECT, UH, WHICH IS WHY I THINK TERRY HAD ASKED HER FOR THIS, UM, SOME TIME AGO.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE, I MEAN, I'M SURE OUR RECORDS WOULD SHOW THE PRECISE DATE, BUT THIS GO GOES BACK AT LEAST SEVERAL MONTHS, PROBABLY.
SHE'S UP INTO SPRING, PROBABLY IN THE, LIKE APRIL OR MAY.
AND, UM, SO WE REALLY GOTTA GET THIS ANALYSIS DONE BECAUSE THINGS WILL, THE, THE REPRESENTATION THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATION MADE TO THE TOWN BOARD IN MAY, UM, BY THE APPLICANT WHO REPRESENTED THE SINGLE NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES CLOSE TO THE AREA OF ELMWOOD.
I'M DOING THIS FROM MEMORY, SO I MAY BE A LITTLE OFF, BUT I THINK, I THINK THE APPLICANT REPRESENTED THAT THE PRICE WOULD BE 785,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR MAYBE IT WAS 875.
I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT IT WAS, IT SEEMED LIKE EVEN THEN A LOW NUMBER.
AND THAT'S WHY, UM, UM, TERRY HAD ASKED LAUREN, HIS REAL ESTATE, UH, BROKER TO, OR TO LOOK INTO IT.
AND, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S INFORMATION THAT ON THE TOWN WEBSITE OF A, OF SOME RECENT, UH, HOUSES, THE APPRAISAL THAT THE TOWN'S APPRAISAL, UH, TOWN'S APPRAISER, UM, HAS APPRAISED A COUPLE OF RECENT HOUSES FOR IN THAT AREA THAT WERE LIKE THE 1.4 CATEGORY.
SO, UM, AND THIS WAS, I THINK IN MAY, SO IT MUST'VE BEEN IN MAY THAT TERRY ASKED, UH, LAUREN TO LOOK INTO THIS.
SO, SO WE REALLY NEED TO GET THIS INFORMATION.
IT'S NOT WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE A PLAN B? IF LAUREN CAN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE'S, SOMETHING'S HAPPENED AND SHE CAN'T COME THROUGH.
DO WE HAVE A PLAN B? WHAT, WHAT'S OUR PLAN B, MY DEAR FRIEND MARGARET, NOT ME.
I, THAT WAS A QUESTION YOU LEARN.
YOU NEVER SHOULD VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? UM, I DON'T KNOW ANY REAL ESTATE BROKERS.
IT'S A LITTLE EARLIER, I THINK, TO BE WORRYING ABOUT A PLAN B.
I MEAN, LAUREN WILL RESPOND TO THE EMAIL, I'M SURE IN, IN SHORT ORDER.
AND THEN UNTIL SHE, UNTIL SHE SAYS SHE CAN'T.
I, TERRY ASKED HER SIX MONTHS AGO.
DID, DID YOU KNOW LAUREN GEORGE? DO DO I KNOW HER OUTSIDE OF THE MEETINGS OR? NO, I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYONE KNEW HER OUTSIDE OF THE MEETINGS.
I COULD GIVE HER A CALL AND JUST BE SURE.
I MEAN, SOMETHING COULD BE HAPPENING IN HER LIFE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR HER.
IT'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SO I'D BE HAPPY TO CALL HER IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT ME TO CALL, I MEAN, HOUSES, WHAT, SHARON, IT COULD BE SHE'S BUSY SELLING HOUSES,
PROBABLY HAS TO GET A NEW CASH REGISTER WITH ALL THE, UH,
WELL, GEORGE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT'S THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF KEY COMPONENTS OF OUR ANALYSIS, UM, AND, AND ONE OF 'EM IS THE, UM, THE ALTERNATIVES.
UM, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, THE DENSITY, IT INCREASES THE DENSITY BY ALMOST, I THINK IT'S LIKE 47%
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OR SOMETHING ALMOST DOUBLE, WHICH IS A, A PROBLEM IN THAT LOCATION.AND IT'S ALSO A MORE GENERIC PROBLEM BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THE TOWN BOARD ADOPTED IN 2016 SAID THAT WE WOULD NOT INCREASE DENSITY IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
AND IF YOU INCREASE IT HERE, THERE'S NO REASON YOU DECIDE YOU TO TELL THE DEVELOPER THEY CAN'T INCREASE IT EVERYWHERE.
AND INCREASING DENSITY HAS A NUMBER OF, UH, UH, OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
UH, SO, UM, ONE OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS, HAS BEEN RAISED BY THE APPLICANT IS, I FORGET EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT, IT WAS LIKE, I'M SURE IS IN THE MID SEVEN HUNDREDS OR MID EIGHT HUNDREDS WAS THE PRICE OF CAR HOUSES.
AND TERRY DONE SOME RESEARCH TO FIND THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ON THE TOWN'S APPRAISER SAYING ABOUT NEW HOUSES BEING BUILT, UH, IN THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS KIND OF CRUCIAL.
IF YOU COULD CONTACT HER, GEORGE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AND NO, I DON'T MIND AT ALL.
ASK HER IF SHE'S STILL WILLING TO DO THE PROJECT, IF SHE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, SHE'S NOT.
AND IF SHE DOES, DOES SHE REALLY HAS, CAN SHE REALLY GIVE US, COULD SHOULD, COULD SHE DO IT BY NEXT MEETING WOULD BE TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY? YEAH, COURSE.
AND SHE CAN'T, YEAH, SOMETHING MUST BE HAPPEN MAYBE HAPPENING IN HER LIFE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS PRIORITY, BUT, UM, OKAY.
BUT I'LL HAVE THAT, I'LL HAVE THE CONVERSATION, SO, OKAY.
UH, I SENT AROUND, I THINK IT WAS FROM, UH, POSTING THE PAUL FINDER SUPERVISOR FINER MADE ON NEXT DOOR REGARDING FOUR CORNERS.
UH, IT SAYS, WATCH THE VIDEO PRESENTATIONS OF FU UH, REGARDING FUTURE PLANS FOR EAST AND WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
AND IT WENT, AND I PRINTED OUT, PRINTED OUT ABOUT TWO PAGES.
I THINK THIS WAS DONE ON SEPTEMBER 25TH.
MY PRINTOUT SAYS SEPTEMBER 26TH, I THINK, THOUGH, I THINK IT WAS MADE ON THE 25TH AND I PRINTED OUT THE NEXT DAY.
UM, DID EVERYONE GET THAT? I SENT IT TO EVERYONE.
AND WAS EVERYONE ABLE TO OPEN IT AND READ IT? MIKE? I HAVEN'T READ IT.
I, I, I HOPE I DIDN'T MISS IT.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU DIDN'T SEND IT, BUT I, I, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
DONNA, UH, MARGARET DID YOU, Y'ALL, DO YOU REMEMBER THIS? I DON'T REMEMBER IT.
I, SO, MIKE, I DON'T, I GOT IT, BUT I FORGOT TO READ IT.
NO, BUT, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT THIS, THEN EVERYONE GOT, YEAH.
IF SOMEONE, SOMEONE, WHAT MARGARET? I, I DON'T THINK I SAW THAT, MIKE.
IT WAS SENT ON SEPTEMBER 26TH.
IF YOU, UH, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T FIND SOMETHING FOR ME ON SEPTEMBER 26TH ENTITLED SOMETHING LIKE FOUR CORNERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL RESEND THIS TO YOU.
I DON'T SEE IT IN MY BOX, SHARON, YOU DON'T SEE IT? DONNA DOESN'T SEE IT.
I GOT, I GOT IT, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS SOMETHING TO OPEN AND READ, SO I HAVEN'T READ IT.
WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, NO ONE HAS TO WORRY ABOUT READING IT.
SO WHO DO I NEED TO RESEND IT TO? DONNA? I NEED TO RESEND IT TO YOU.
YES, NANCY, DO YOU GET IT? YOU RECALL GETTING IT? YOU'RE MUTED, NANCY.
WHAT? DID YOU GET IT, NANCY? YES, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.
I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THE WAY MY PICTURES ARE SET UP ON THE ZOOM.
UH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T READ IT.
ALFRED, YOU GET IT? YES, I DID.
STEPHANIE, DID YOU GET IT? NO, I DIDN'T GET IT.
UM, MARGARET, YOU GET, YOU DID NOT GET MARGARET.
I'M, I'M, I'M FORWARDING IT TO MYSELF AGAIN.
SO I'LL SEND THIS AGAIN TO, UH, UH, UH, DON STEPHANIE.
CAN YOU SEND THE MYSTERY OF THE MYSTERIES OF CYBERS BY MIKE? YOU CAN SEND IT AGAIN TO ME TOO.
UM, AND, UM, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO FOR US TO DO NOW.
UH, I THINK IT'S JUST WORTH READING FOR TO GET INTO IT.
THERE IS, UH, THE LAST THING, IT GOES ON FOR TWO PAGES PRINTED
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OUT.UM, TALK SOMEWHAT ABOUT, UM, UH, STORM WATER ANALYSIS.
AND, UH, THAT OF COURSE WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD, UM, BE INTERESTED IN BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT WILL CREATE, UM, A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS OF, OF COURSE.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF IT, UH, WHICH ARE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, BUT THE BUILDING'S THERE NOW ANYWAY.
BUT THERE'S ALSO A PARKING AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER PAR ACCESSIBLE STRUCTURED PARKING.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THOSE WORDS MEAN.
MAYBE MATT KNOWS WHAT THEY MEANS, BUT, UH, IT MAY MEAN UNDERGROUND PARKING.
MATT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT STRUCTURED PARKING MEANS? UH, STRUCTURED PARKING GENERALLY MEANS, UM, LIKE, LIKE TIERED PARKING.
THAT'S NOT LIKE, UH, YOU PULL INTO LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SHOPPING PLAZA AND IT'S JUST FLAT, UH, STRUCTURED PARKING WILL HAVE MULTIPLE TIERS.
IT CAN BE UNDERGROUND, BUT CAN ALSO BE ABOVE GROUND, LIKE MULTIPLE STORIES.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'LL BE SOME, UM, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PROPOSED UNDERGROUND OR NOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S HAD LOTS OF FLOODING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO OR SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MAJOR FLOODING IN DOWNTOWN HARTSDALE, SO THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY AWARE OF ALL THAT, AND I'M SURE THEY'RE CONSULTING WITH THE ENGINEERS ABOUT IT.
BUT THAT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, OF, OF, OF WHAT WAS POSTED.
THIS SEEMED TO BE LIKE ONE OF THE ISSUES.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE ONLY ISSUE, BUT CERTAINLY ONE OF THE ISSUES WE, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY WOULD BE SENSITIVE TO.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM FOUR CORNERS? UH, ARE WE SEND THIS STUFF AROUND? UH, I DON'T, I DIDN'T SEE EXCESS FOOD FOR THE NEEDLE LAW.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT, UH, OF THAT IS.
I, I KNOW TOM AAND HAS BEEN LOOKING AT IT, BUT I, SO WHETHER WE CAN GET IT EXTENDED, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, NOTHING ON THE TOWN CODE AND SE R UM, UH, THE GUIDE TO THE TOWN CODE SEQUEL THAT WE DID, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR IS GONNA NEED UPDATING.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO KINDA SEE HOW ELMWOOD PLAYS OUT AND HOW THE, UH, WITH REGARD IN, IN RESPECT TO THE FINAL, UH, E I S AND WE'LL UPDATE THAT.
UH, IS ANYTHING SHARON ON THE SWAB? YOU'RE DOING THAT RIGHT? I, I'M, I'M SORRY, MIKE.
I, I HAVEN'T BEEN DOING ANYTHING, ANYTHING BECAUSE I, I FELL AND BROKE MY ARM AND A RIB.
I'VE BEEN JUST BE CONCENTRATING ON THAT.
ARE YOU IN, ARE YOU IN A LOT OF PAIN? I LOVE TODAY.
YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T DO ANY WEIGHTLIFTING.
UH, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHAT IS SWAB? IT'S SAWMILL RIVER.
LIZ WATER BASIN, SOMETHING ELSE? NO, I THINK IT WAS WATERSHED WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD.
SAWMILL WATERSHED ADVISORY BOARD.
SO IT'S A COALITION AMONG THE TOWNS, YOU KNOW, TO DEAL WITH THE POLLUTION IN, IN THE SAWMILL RIVER, THE FLOODING, THE, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR DREDGING.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES IN THE SAWMILL RIVER.
IT'S VERY ING I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP ON IT.
NO, WELL, LISTEN, I MEAN, THAT'S NO, TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF FIRST.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UH, NOT AN EMERGENCY.
YOU, DO YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? LIZ? GO.
UH, I, I, SINCE I DID THAT, UH, SINCE I WORKED ON THAT, UM, I DIDN'T WANNA WORK ON IT, BUT SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE DID SEND ONE, I'LL, I'LL WORK WITH THE TOWN WEBMASTER.
DO YOU SEE THE, THE, UH, EMAIL FROM LAUREN? DID I SEE AN EMAIL FROM LAUREN? YEAH, I, I, IT JUST ARRIVED.
WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU READ IT? BECAUSE I, I, I CAN'T SEE EMAILS WHILE I
YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? IT SAYS HER.
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ROCKLAND HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING ON THE ZOOM CALL IN HER CAR.SHE'S ABOUT TO DRIVE BACK HOME AND WILL LOG ON FROM HER COMPUTER AS SOON AS SHE GETS HOME.
I HOPE SHE DOESN'T DO THIS WHILE SHE'S DRIVING.
BECAUSE, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY WANT US TO GET A WEBPAGE, UM, BUT I JUST, IT IS GONNA BE A COUPLE MORE WEEKS WHERE I'M GONNA HAVE ANY TIME I CAN DEVOTE TO THAT, BUT MAYBE I HAVE A COUPLE CAN DEVOTE SOME TIME TO IT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT METROPOLIS IS OVER.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHY ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS RELATED TO METROPOLIS IS STILL ON ONGOING ITEMS? 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S, OH, I THINK IT'S DONE.
THEY, THEY WALKED AWAY, RIGHT? NO, NO.
METROPOLIS IS THE ONE WHERE WAS THE, UM, CONTINUUM OF, UH, CARE SENIOR HOUSING.
IT'S THE, UH, AND WE ENDED UP ADOPTING A NEW LAW ON HART.
RIGHT? THE SWIM CLUB ON HARTSDALE AVENUE IS THE ONE THAT WALKED AWAY, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST REMOVE, UH, METROPOLIS.
UH, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE'RE MISSING, WE CAN ALWAYS PUT IT BACK ON, BUT I THINK WE'LL JUST REMOVE IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, IT APPEARS TO, UH, NOT, UH, TO BE OVER NOW THAT, UH, UH, THE NEW LAW WAS ADOPTED, UH, WHICH I THINK LIKE IN MARCH, APRIL, PERIOD.
NOTHING I KNOW IS HAPPENING ON THAT.
ANYTHING'S HAPPENING ON RECOMMENDATIONS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, GEORGE AND LIZ.
SO I, I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA MENTION THAT WE SHOULD, UH, TRY AND SET UP A MEETING NEXT WEEK.
I KNOW GEORGE, NANCY AND I KIND OF SPOKE BRIEFLY THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO REFOCUS AFTER THE SUMMER BREAK, SO WE CAN DO THAT OFFLINE.
AGAIN, THERE'S NO, NO DEADLINE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THAT, BUT JUST, UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND IT'S PROBABLY FOR AARON, BUT WHATEVER YOU GUYS KNOW, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT, IS THE NEW YORK STATE STRETCH CODE, WHICH I'M IN THE PROCESS OF LISTENING TO A PRESENTATION BY SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I KNOW HASTINGS AND A COUPLE OF THE OTHER RIVER TOWNS HAVE ADOPTED IT.
IT'S BEING DESCRIBED AS AN OVERLAY TO THE EXISTING CODE, BUT JUST SORT OF MAKING IT COMPLIANT WITH, WHEN YOU SAY CODE, WHAT KIND OF CODE ARE YOU WHEN YOU OVER CODE, CLOSING CODE, NEW BUILDING, NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO IT IS AN OVERLAY TO THE BUILDING CODE, RIGHT.
WHICH THE IDEA SO THAT IF A TOWN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WHAT WE WANT AND IF IT'S AS RIGOROUS AS WE WANT, SO THAT I CAN'T COMMENT ON YET, BUT WHAT THEY'RE SELLING IT AS THE STATE IS SELLING IT AS, UM, A VERY EASY SWITCHOVER BECAUSE IT KIND OF CONNECTS TO WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
JUST MAKES IT MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
AND THE IDEA TO BRING IT, US, WHOEVER ADOPTS IT IN LINE WITH WHATEVER NEW YORK STATE HAS SET AS YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, COMPLIANT BY WHATEVER YEAR WITH VARIOUS ECO SUSTAINABLE BUILDING CHANGES THAT, UM, DOES, IT DOES THE, WELL, WELL, LET ME GIVE YOU A MODEL THAT YOU AND, UH, GEORGE AND NANCY CAN THINK ABOUT.
WHEN WE WERE DEALING, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN BOARD APPOINTED OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, TO DEAL WITH BATTERY ENERGY, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES, THESE ARE THESE LITHIUM ION BATTERIES THAT, UH, UH, STORE ELECTRICITY TO, UH, THAT IS PRODUCED DURING OFF PEAK TIMES TO, UH, BE USED IN PEAK TIMES.
UM, NYSERDA HAD COME UP WITH A MODEL LAW, AND WE USED THE NYSERDA MODEL LAW AS KIND OF A FRAMEWORK, BUT WE SUBSTANTIALLY ADDED TO IT.
RIGHT? UH, AND SO YOU AND GEORGE AND NANCY MIGHT WANNA AT LEAST USE THAT AS A FRAMEWORK.
I MEAN, UH, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER WHEN SOMETHING LIKE CERTA, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE INSTITUTION, COMES UP WITH A LAW FOR, UM, UM, FOR THE STATE OF NEW YORK, WHICH HAS MUNICIPALITIES, UM,
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LIKE NEW YORK CITY AND BUFFALO AND ROCHESTER, AND HAS, YOU KNOW, SUBURBAN AREAS LIKE US.AND THEN IT HAS TOTALLY RURAL AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MORE COWS THAN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO HAVE A, UH, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY THE RIGHT FIT FOR ANY ONE COMMUNITY.
SO, BUT IF, IF THERE IS A FRAMEWORK THAT IT, IT MAY BE A GOOD STARTING PLACE.
I'M NOT AT ALL SUGGESTING IT'S WHERE WE SHOULD END UP, BUT IT MAY BE SOMETHING Y'ALL WANNA LOOK AT AND, AND SEE.
THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR, WHICH IS PROBABLY FOR AARON, ALTHOUGH YOU GUYS MIGHT KNOW, IS HAS THE TOWN EVEN LOOKED AT THIS YET? I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I GOT REFERENCED TO THIS COMMITTEE.
I HAD SENT PAUL FINER AN EMAIL ASKING HIM IF THE TOWN WAS LOOKING, AND THEN HE INTRODUCED ME TO TERRY.
BUT, UM, AT ONE POINT AARON HAD BEEN ASKED TO GIVE US A LIST OF WHAT THE TOWN ALREADY HAD IN PLACE THAT WAS SUSTAINABLE AND ECO-FRIENDLY SO THAT WE COULD COMPARE IT TO THIS.
BUT I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT YET FROM AARON.
AND THEN WE TOOK A BREAK FOR THE SUMMER.
UM, I, THE ONLY THING I'M AWARE OF, LIZ, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY THING AT WHICH I'M PERSONALLY AWARE OF IS WE HAVE A WAY TO CERTIFY BUILDINGS THAT ARE, I, I THINK I'M, UH, I WANNA SAY STAR, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD.
PARDON? LEAD L E, RIGHT? MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
I KNOW WE HAVE A WAY TO CERTIFY, UH, THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M PERSONALLY THOSE ARE STANDARD, RIGHT? THOSE ARE STANDARDS SET BY.
I'M CURIOUS HOW THE STRETCH CODE COMPARES TO LEAD.
THAT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING THING TO LOOK AT AS WELL.
WELL, I MEAN, I THINK Y'ALL OUGHT TO, IT'D BE GREAT IF Y'ALL COULD MEET, I MEAN, I THINK YOU SHOULD THINK OF THIS IN TERMS OF LIKE A SIX MONTH PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S VERY COMPLICATED AND PROBABLY A LOT OF THOUGHT HAS TO GO INTO IT.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF BALANCING.
I MEAN, SOMETHING MIGHT BE GOOD ENVIRONMENTALLY, BUT IT, IT, IT MAY HAVE A HUGE COST TO IT.
THAT'S, UH, DO WE REALLY WANT TO ASK OUR NEIGHBORS TO DO THIS? UH, YOU KNOW, IS IT WORTH, YOU KNOW, IS IT REALLY WORTH HAVING THIS ITEM FOR THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A, IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A VERY COMPLEX, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO.
I HOPE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING, BUT I'M NOT, I I, BUT HISTORICALLY THIS C A C DOESN'T TAKE EVERYTHING THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD BE ENVIRONMENTALLY AND SAYS WE OUGHT TO DO IT, BECAUSE WE TRY TO BALANCE THAT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, REALLY WANT AND, AND, AND, AND MAKE SENSE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK IT'S A DIFFICULT PROJECT.
SO I'M, I'M CURIOUS, AND MAYBE MARGARET KNOWS MORE ABOUT THIS.
UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I HAVE THE RIGHT WORDING.
'CAUSE NEW YORK STATE HAS ESTABLISHED CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE REACHED, BUT I THINK IT'S 2040 TO BE IN LINE WITH VARIOUS CLIMATE CHANGE INITIATIVES.
THE, FROM THE, UM, THE PARIS UN UN, I DUNNO IF IT'S FROM THE UN OR THE PARIS ACCORD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORIGIN IS.
I JUST, WHAT, UM, LIZ, IT, YOU CAN LOOK IT UP ONLINE.
IT'S CALLED THE CLIMATE ACT, UH, OF 20 AS ADOPTED BY IN 2019.
AND IT IS, IT REQUIRES BY 2030 THAT I DON'T REMEMBER THE PERCENTAGES ANYMORE, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL, WE 2030, A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN OUR, UM, USE OF FOSSIL FUELS.
USE OF FOSSIL FUELS FOR ENERGY.
AND THEN IT'S SUPPOSEDLY GET RID OF ALL OF IT BY, UH, 2040 OR SOMETHING.
UH, YEAH, I, I, I USED TO KNOW IT ON, BUT I HAVEN'T, BUT IT'S EASY TO FIND.
IT'S ON THE, YOU CAN LOOK UP, UH, UH, NEW YORK STATE CLIMATE ACT OF 2019 AND UM, UH, AND FIND OUT WHAT THOSE GOALS ARE.
UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WOULD IN, IN WHAT YOU AND GEORGE AND NAS ARE DOING, THAT WOULD INTERRELATE FOR SURE IS THE STANDARDS FOR INSTALLATION.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE MORE INSULATION THERE IS, THE LESS NEEDED THERE IS FOR THE USE OF, UH, OF, UM, UH, HEATING AND COOL.
THERE'S SO MANY MA MIKE, IT'S HUGE.
THE, THE IDEA OF LIKE, HOW DO YOU DO IT, RIGHT? IT'S HUGE.
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HAVE TO SAY INSULATION IS SO COMPLICATED, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S HAS ITS OWN SET OF PROBLEMS. WELL, YEAH, SURE.FOR EXAMPLE, THE FOAM IN THE FOAM INSULATION, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE SO GOOD, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, IT, SOME PEOPLE SAY IT GIVES US OFF VAPORS, WHERE'S IT COME FROM? RIGHT.
I MEAN, WHERE DOES WHAT COME FROM MARGARET? THE FOAM.
IT COMES FROM, FROM, FROM CHEMICALS, BUT MOST OF, MOST OF WHICH I CAN'T, ALL OF WHICH PROBABLY I CAN'T PRONOUNCE.
ALFRED, DO YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, A MEDICAL AND SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND.
DO YOU WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THIS? SURE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO, UM, WELCOME BOARD.
WHY DON'T YOU SEND YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER? UH, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE YOUR EMAIL.
JUST WHY DON'T YOU SEND YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER, SAY TO GEORGE AND JUST EMAIL IT SO HE THEN CAN INCLUDE YOU IN, BECAUSE YOU, UM, AT LEAST YOU PROBABLY WOULD BE ABLE TO PRONOUNCE THE CHEMICALS IN THE PHONE,
UH, BUT, UH, WITH YOUR BACKGROUND, THAT WOULD, YOU'D BE VERY HELPFUL IF YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF, KIND OF ALL THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA.
LEMME JUST GO AROUND AND SEE IF, UH, I'LL GO THROUGH THE THINGS.
ANYBODY WANNA ADD ANYTHING? UH, DONNA, YOU'RE MY FIRST SCREEN.
ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD, GEORGE? MY SECOND SCREEN? NO, MIKE, I'M GOOD.
SORRY, I DON'T, DID EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE MY EMAIL ABOUT THE, UM, GLY GLYPHOSATE BAN? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, WE, WE, I, WE HAVE SENT OVER THE YEARS, I'M SURE
UM, THE HEAD OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, I THINK HAS EITHER SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED OR TOTALLY REDUCED.
UM, UM, THE USE OF, OF, OF THOSE CHEMICALS, YOU KNOW, A MORE, I MEAN, SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER IS WHETHER WE WANNA, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE TOWN ON, ITS ON ITS PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, WOULD WE WANT TO ISSUE A BAN? NOT, WE DON'T HAVE IT, RIGHT? WOULD WE WANNA RECOMMEND THE ISSUANCE OF A BAN THAT IT CANNOT BE USED IN THE TOWN OF GREENVILLE? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT'S, I THINK IT'S CONTROVERSIAL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BORN AND AGAINST, AND THERE'S PROBABLY LOTS OF LAWYERS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THE, THE, UM, WELL, NEW YORK STATE IS LOOKING AT BANNING IT, WHICH IS WHY THE LANDSCAPE ASSOCIATION IS YEAH.
UM, MY INSTINCTS, LIZ, ARE WE OUGHT TO FOLLOW AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT NEW YORK STATE LEVEL.
'CAUSE IF NEW YORK STATE DOESN'T DO IT, AS MARGARET POINTS OUT, ARE WE REALLY GOING TO, IF BATAN GREENBERG REALLY WANT, YOU KNOW, FUND THE LEGAL FIGHT THAT WOULD COME FROM BANNING IT.
AND, WELL, AND ALSO THIS WAS, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S HAPPENED ON THE BLOWER LAW, OF COURSE, FOR, UM, UM, SINCE WE HAD ALL THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE TOWN BOARD, BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE BLOWERS, YOU KNOW, BELOW THAT STUFF UP INTO THE AIR AND INTO THE LUNGS OF KIDS THERE.
WELL, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO JOIN ME ON ZOOM ON OCTOBER 27TH AT ONE O'CLOCK, YOU CAN REGISTER FOR THE ZOOM.
WHY DON'T YOU GIVE A REPORT ON, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE A, A REPORT ON IT? UM, UH, NEXT TIME, UH, MAY MAYBE JUST EMAIL LLOYD PRECISELY WHAT IT IS.
WE CAN PUT IN THE MINUTES THAT YOU'LL GIVE A REPORT ON IT.
IF YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU MIND DOING THAT, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
MEETING'S THE 28TH, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
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NEXT MEETING IS THE 28TH.UM, ALFRED, ANY YOU, MY NEXT, UH, THING ON ZOOM? ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? UH, NOTHING.
UH, STEPHANIE, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
UH, MATT, IS ANYTHING FROM THE, UH, TOWN, C D N N C THAT YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, TO ADD? UH, NO.
WELL, UH, MATT, THANK YOU FOR HOSTING AND, UH, THANKS EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING AND, UH, THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND, UH, UH, OH YEAH, WE, WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH THE DAY'S NEXT MEETING.
SO THAT'S TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY, UH, OCTOBER 28TH, AND THAT WOULD BE GEORGE, WHAT YOU WOULD ADD.
UH, LAUREN, PLEASE, IF, IF SHE CAN GET US SOMETHING TO LOOK AT BY, UH, OF THAT MEETING.
UH, AND THEN IF NOT, AT LEAST ON THE 28TH, WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
WHY WE SHOULDN'T REALLY WORRY ABOUT A PLAN B IF, IF SHE CAN DO THAT.
AND IF NOT, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO, UH, THINK ABOUT, UH, PLAN B.
I, ONE, ONE POSSIBILITY MIGHT BE POSSIBILITY.
UM, JUST PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT.
DO THEY THEMSELVES KNOW REAL ESTATE AGENTS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE US AN INFORMATION? YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE, I MEAN, IT SEEMED, YOU KNOW, TERRY'S IDEA WAS, WAS OBVIOUSLY QUITE LOGICAL THAT, UH, SINCE LAUREN WAS A REAL ESTATE AGENT, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, MY, MY MY, MY GUT RESPONSE WOULD BE THAT ANY REAL ESTATE AGENT WOULD WANNA GET EITHER PAID FOR IT OR IS TOO BUSY TO DO IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE MARKET.
SO YEAH, PROBABLY, RIGHT? YEAH.
WE'RE WE, WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET
WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH, UH, WITH OUR, I'LL, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CONVERSATION.
YEAH, JUST SEND AROUND AN EMAIL TO EVERYONE SO WE KNOWS.
ARE YOU, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR COMPS IN THAT AREA? NEW CONSTRUCTION? YEAH.
YEAH, BECAUSE AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, JUST THE NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN OUT BY, UH, NOT THROWN OUT, BUT SPECIFICALLY STATED BY THE APPLICANT, UH, THE TOWN BOARD JUST SEEMED, UH, BE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, QUITE LOW AND NOT BY $2,000 NO, BY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TOWN WANTS TO HAVE HAPPEN ON THAT LOCATION? UM, SO TAXES.
WELL, WELL, THAT'S WHY THERE'S AN ISSUE OF, UM, I MEAN THIS IS WHY, ONE OF THE REASONS THIS IS SO KEY IF, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ARE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT'S ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, 1.2 TO 1.4 AND TOWNHOUSES, THEY WERE GOING TO, THEY SAID, WELL, WE, THE TOWNHOUSE IS GONNA SELL SEVEN OR 800,000 MAYBE BETTER TO HAVE TOWN, MAYBE BETTER TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES WITH LESS DENSITY.
I MEAN, YOU'D HAVE TO DO THE MATH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE MORE DENSITY, BUT, BUT A CHEAPER UNIT VERSUS LESS DENSITY AT A HIGHER PRICE.
YOU KNOW, JUST A MATTER OF DOING THE MATH ON THAT THOUGH, OF COURSE, THERE'S LOTS OF ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS TO HAVING LESS DENSITY, BUT THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF OUR ANALYSIS.
YEAH, I, I, I DON'T KNOW THE, I DON'T KNOW THE TOWN AS WELL.
THE TOWN CERTAINLY DOESN'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL POSITION AT THIS POINT IN TIME.