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          OKAY. 
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OKAY. 
          WE'RE 
          [                   	 		 			                   			TOWN OF GREENBURGH 			CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AGENDA 			MEETING TO BE HELD VIA 			ZOOM-ENABLED VIDEO CONFERENCE 			THURSDAY, October 28, 2021 – 7:30 P.M. 			 ]
ALL SET. 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MIKE. 
          UH, THIS IS THE, UM, GREENBERG, UM, CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, UM, MEETING, UH, OCTOBER 28TH. 
          IT'S ABOUT, UH, 7 35. 
          AND, UM, FIRST THING WE WANT TO DO IS, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. 
          THEY DON'T WANNA HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MEETING, ON THE, I MEAN, ON THE, UM, ON THE MINUTES. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEN I MOVE THAT, UH, WE APPROVE THEM. 
          SOMEONE, PLEASE. 
          SECOND NANCY. 
          SECOND. 
          I SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALFRED, IF YOU'RE ON, WHY DON'T YOU SHOW US YOUR FACE? I DUNNO WHY I'M NOT SHOWING . 
          I JUST SENT YOU AN, AN ASK TO START VIDEO, SO LOOKS LIKE IT'S POPPING UP. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THERE'S, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          MIKE, WHO'S TAKING THE MINUTES TODAY? LAUREN. 
          OKAY. 
          LIZ, AM I, OR LAUREN? LIZ HAS VOLUNTEERED. 
          AND, UM, WELL, LAUREN CAN, IF SHE WANTS TO. 
          I'M A TERRIBLE NOTE TAKER. 
          . 
          OH, AM I ? LAUREN. 
          LAUREN SENT OUT A WONDERFUL, UH, HIGH QUALITY DOCUMENT WE, UH, NEED TO GO THROUGH, BUT LET'S SEE HOW MUCH TIME, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE STILL AWAKE WHEN WE FINISH. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UM, UH, UM, THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO I GUESS WE SHOULD, UH, ASK, UM, UH, BLOOM ENERGY, UH, UH, FOLKS. 
          UM, OH, AND, AND, AND LIZ, WHEN YOU'RE TAKING THE MINUTES, IF WE GET TO THE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED AND THAT AARON SAID THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARE UNANSWERED THAT WE ORIGINALLY ASKED, OR QUESTIONS THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, COME UP BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, IT, WE LEARN THINGS, YOU KNOW, ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. 
          UM, PLEASE DO THE BEST YOU CAN. 
          OF COURSE, NO ONE EXPECTS YOU TO TAKE IT DOWN VERBATIM, BUT PLEASE DO THE BEST YOU CAN TO, UH, PUT THOSE, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR YELLOW. 
          I NOTES ARE NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE NANCY'S, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW. 
           . 
          NO ONE'S WILL, NO ONE'S. 
          WELL, OKAY. 
          AND IS IT, IS MY QUESTION OKAY. 
          TO ASK ABOUT? I'M, YEAH. 
          I'M NOT CLEAR HOW IT MEETS THE NEW YORK STATE CLIMATE ACT. 
          APPARENTLY NEITHER IS THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION . 
          UH, THE, UM, UM, NANCY, BY THE WAY, TOOK THE LEAD ON THIS, AND SHE, MOST OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE DEVELOPED BY NANCY AND TERRY ADDED A COUPLE, BUT THOSE MAY, UH, PRIMARILY, UH, NANCY, UH, TOOK THE LEAD ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AARON, WHY DON'T YOU BRING THEM IN, PLEASE. 
          SO, I'M GONNA ADMIT EVERYONE, AND THEN I WILL ASK THE UNIDENTIFIED INDIVIDUAL TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. 
          AND IF IT'S NOT SOMEONE THAT WE UNDERSTAND, I CAN, YOU KNOW, KICK THEM OUT OF THE ROOM IF THEY'RE NOT SOMEONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE INVOLVED HERE, IF THEY'RE RESIDENT, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HERE. 
          CORRECT. 
          JUST SAYING, SOMETIMES, UM, THINGS CAN HAPPEN WHERE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT INTENDED TO GET THE, THE LINK IS, IS SOMEHOW ON AND, AND PERHAPS DISRUPTIVE. 
          SO, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE JUST ASK. 
          IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ABSOLUTELY. 
          JUST ASK. 
          SO, THANKS EVERYONE. 
          UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, AND, AND WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE. 
          WE JUST HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S UNIDENTIFIED. 
          UM, BN 2 7 12. 
          DO YOU MIND IDENTIFYING YOURSELF AND CHANGING YOUR NAME? SURE. 
          OR I CAN DO IT FOR YOU. 
          HEY, AARON, IT'S BRIAN NUNAN FROM BLOOM. 
          OH, GREAT, BRIAN. 
          SO I CAN CHANGE YOUR, UH, I CAN RENAME YOU HERE. 
          THANKS FOR THAT. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, WHO, WHO IS HERE FROM BLOOM, JEFF? SO WE HAVE, UM, BRIAN NUNAN, WHO JUST ANNOUNCED HIMSELF, AND WE HAVE KRISTEN GRILLO AS WELL, UH, ON BEHALF OF BLOOM ENERGY. 
          SO, UH, I KNOW THAT THE COUNSEL WANTED TO HEAR FROM THOSE FOLKS FIRST, BUT I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO MIKE AND THEN, UM, WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT. 
          UH, BRIAN, YOU WANNA SHOW YOURSELF BRIAN? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          HI. 
          OKAY, . 
          UM, UH, I AM, UM, MIKE 
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SIEGEL, VICE CHAIR OF THE C A C, UH, THERESA TORE, WHO YOU SEE, UH, IN, IN ONE OF THE OTHER BOXES IS CHAIR OF THE C A C. 
          AND, UM, THE, THE OTHER MEMBERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE C. 
          THE OTHER BOXES YOU SEE ARE MEMBERS OF THE CAC. 
          UM, WE, UH, UH, UM, APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, COURTESY AND, UM, IN GIVING US WRITTEN ANSWERS. 
          I THINK, UH, ALL OF US HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO READ THROUGH 'EM. 
          WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON 'EM, BUT IT CERTAINLY, I THINK WILL HELP, UH, UH, THE DISCUSSION BE MORE FOCUSED. 
          UM, AND I WILL TURN IT, UH, KRISTEN AND BRIAN, UH, OVER TO YOU AND ASK YOU TO SAY WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO SAY. 
          THERE'S NO TIME PERIOD, WE WON'T HEAR EVERYTHING YOU WANNA SAY. 
          WELL, AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, AS THE QUESTIONS REALLY PERTAIN TO A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE POLLUTANTS AND THE QUALITY OF THE SYSTEMS, IS THERE ANY, UM, QUESTIONS AS FAR AS HOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AS WELL? UH, DO YOU NEED US TO EXPLAIN IN, UM, IN DETAIL, OR WAS THAT ALREADY PROVIDED TO YOU BY THE PLANNING BOARD AS FAR AS WHAT OUR PROJECT IS? WELL, I, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR THE APPLICANT TO WALK THE C A C MEMBERS THROUGH THE PROPOSAL. 
          AGREED. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVE THE PLAN DRAWING AVAILABLE, THE SHARE SCREEN TO GIVE THEM A SENSE OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED. 
          YES. 
          WE, WE DID FORWARD, UM, A REPORT AS WELL AS THE APPLICATION MATERIALS ALONG TO EACH OF THE MEMBERS, BUT KEEP IN MIND, THEY ONLY RECEIVE THINGS PROBABLY FRIDAY OR SATURDAY AND, YOU KNOW, ONLY HAVE HAD A FEW DAYS TO LOOK THINGS OVER. 
          SO THE MORE YOU CAN KIND OF WALK US THROUGH AND GIVE US, YOU KNOW, A FAIRLY DETAILED OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT, I THINK THE BETTER IT WOULD BE FOR THE MEMBERS AND THE KICKOFF, THE Q AND A. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I'M PULLING UP THE PLANS RIGHT NOW. 
          I JUST DIDN'T WANNA REPEAT ANY KIND OF REDUNDANT INFORMATION IF THAT INFORMATION WAS ALREADY PRESENTED. 
          AND SO I'M JUST, THE, THE PLANNING BOARD GAVE US THE FOLLOWING GUIDANCE, UH, CHRISTIAN, UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE LOOK AT THIS ? UNDERSTOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M JUST PULLING UP THE SITE PLAN. 
          UM, ONE SECOND. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          MY COMPUTER IS VERY SLOW. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT THAT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? YES. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO THIS IS OUR INSTALLATION SITE, UM, AT THE ALTI FACILITY. 
          UH, IT'S ALONG FULTON, UM, AND RU BRUSSEL STREET. 
          YEP. 
          THE INSTALLATION IS GOING TO BE INSTALLED, UM, IN THE FRONT YARD OF THE BUILDING. 
          UH, JUST TO EXPLAIN, UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LOCATION, UH, FOR TWO REASONS, UM, THAT WE'VE CHOSEN THIS LOCATION UP IN THE FRONT IS, IT IS THE MOST CONVENIENT AND ACCESSIBLE WAY TO, UM, CONNECTING TO THE EXISTING UTILITIES. 
          AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, UM, THE, UM, SIDE YARDS ARE NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR ANY KIND OF, IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO ACCESS THE REAR OF THE YARD AS WELL AS MAINTENANCE. 
          SO THIS IS THE MOST IDEAL LOCATION FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE SYSTEM. 
          UM, THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO SUPPLY, UM, ALT WITH, UH, APPROXIMATELY 1500 KILOWATTS OF BASE LOAD POWER. 
          UM, AND, UH, ANYTHING, UM, OVER, YOU KNOW, AT TIMES WHERE THE BUILDING IS NOT, UM, THE HIGH SUPPLY IS NOT IN DEMAND, AND THE, THE FACILITIES ARE STILL PRODUCING ELECTRICITY THAT THAT IS EXPORTED BACK INTO THE GRID. 
          SO, UM, THERE IS SOME ASSISTANCE WITH PROVIDING ELECTRICITY TO THE GRID AS WELL. 
          UM, SO THAT, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED ANY FURTHER INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE INSTALLATION OR THE LOCATION, YOU KNOW, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'LL GET BASICALLY, UH, INTO, WELL, COULD YOU SHOW YOUR LOCATION IN RELATION TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY? HOW FAR ARE YOU FROM LIKE THE NEAREST, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREA? SO THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL, UM, RESIDE WOULD BE ALONG RUSSELL STREET. 
          SO I CAN EVEN, UH, PULL UP, LET'S SEE, UH, GOOGLE MAPS REAL QUICK TO PULL UP THE LOCATION AS FAR AS YOU COULD GET A STREET VIEW. 
          AND AS MS. GRILLO'S PULLING THAT UP, I CAN JUST UPDATE AND, AND INDICATE THAT THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT THIS SITE LIES WITHIN IS AN IB INTERMEDIATE BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT. 
          THAT 
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LOT TO THE LEFT, THAT'S SMALLER, THAT SORT OF RECTANGULAR LOT. 
          YES. 
          THERE, UH, WITH THE TWO C 1.1 AND ONE OVER M 1.1, THAT IS A MULTIFAMILY LOT THAT IS UNDEVELOPED AT THE MOMENT. 
          THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO DEVELOP THAT SITE WITH, UM, I THINK FIVE UNIT, UH, FIVE TOWN HOME UNITS ABOUT SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO. 
          IT CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT, UH, AND THE PLANNING BOARD MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD, BUT THEY NEVER MOVED FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. 
          TO THE LEFT OF THAT LOT IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT LOT IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          SO THERE'S A TRANSITION IN THE ZONING IS MY POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY, AREN'T SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS ON FULTON STREET HAVE APARTMENTS ON TOP OF THE, UH, BUSINESSES ON THE BELOW, I BELIEVE PERHAPS ACROSS FULTON, BUT NOT ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE OLD, NOT ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE LEASE, BUT ACROSS FULTON, DON'T, SOME OF THOSE OLD BUILDINGS, DON'T THEY HAVE, UH, APARTMENTS ON TOP? THEY COULD, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT THAT SIDE OF FULTON FALLS WITHIN THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS AND IS NOT WITHIN GREENBURG. 
          THAT'S WHY I DON'T KNOW IT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT KRISTEN, IF YOU HAVE, UH, THE AERIAL OR A VICINITY MAP. 
          YES. 
          CAN YOU SEE MY, UH, DO YOU SEE MY SCREEN? WE'RE STILL SEEING THE, UM, WE'RE STILL SEEING, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 
          LET ME, UH, SHARE A DIFFERENT SCREEN HERE. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU SEE THE STREET VIEW? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS ALONG THIS AREA IS WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO INSTALL THE SYSTEMS. UM, THIS IS ALONG RUSSELL STREET, AND OUR PLANS ALSO CONTAIN, UH, THE NEAREST, UH, AN ELEVATION VIEW OF THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE, AS FAR AS THAT IS THE LOCAL RESIDENCE NEAREST TO THE INSTALLATION SITE ITSELF, WHERE THE SYSTEMS ARE GONNA BE. 
          SO, I MEAN, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS THE VIEW, THERE'S ALREADY SOME NATURAL SCREENING THERE, SHRUBS, TREES AND WHATNOT. 
          UM, BLOCKING THE VIEW OF WHERE THE SYSTEMS ARE GONNA BE. 
          BUT WE ARE INSTALL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UTILIZING THIS, UM, EXISTING FENCE AND PUTTING SOME ACOUSTICAL SCREENING MATERIAL THAT WILL ALSO ACT AS SANU, UH, SOUND ATTENUATION MATERIAL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SO BECAUSE THE, THE SYSTEMS AREN'T PARTICULARLY LOUD, BUT THEY DO PRODUCE A HUM. 
          UM, UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S SIMILAR TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S A FAN. 
          YES. 
          C GOING TO, UM, PUT IN THE SCREENING THAT THE, UH, UH, ACOUSTIC CONSULTANT RECOMMENDED. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
          BASED BA THERE WAS A SOUND STUDY PERFORMED, SO THERE WAS SOME BASIC RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT KIND OF MATERIAL, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE USED FOR THE FENCE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BASED ON THAT, YOU'RE ALL, WHAT, WHAT DOES IT MATERIAL? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? UH, LET'S CHECK THAT OUT HERE. 
          LET ME SEE IF I COULD PULL UP IN THAT LETTER. 
          UM, I DIDN'T SEE IT. 
          SORRY, YOU, I MISSED IT. 
          YEAH, THAT BIG PACKET WE HAD, I DEFINITELY MISSED THAT. 
          YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT OF MATERIAL DISTRIBUTED FOR THIS. 
          UM, I'M TRYING TO SEE CARBONATION, , SORRY, I JUST, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 
          IS IT THE SOUND STUDY? UH, UH, NO. 
          SO THIS IS A, THIS IS, UM, THE, UM, CUT SHEET FOR THE NOTES. 
          SO FOR THE EXTERIOR GRADE OF THE NOISE CONTROL. 
          SO IT'S BASICALLY THIS TYPE OF MATERIAL, IT ACTS AS A SCREENING FOR IT. 
          UM, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT WAS BEST WITH THIS IS BECAUSE WE CAN USE THE EXISTING FENCE WITH WHICH OWNERSHIP, YOU KNOW, PREFERS, UM, THAT WE UTILIZE THE EXISTING FENCE. 
          THEIR FENCE IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, UH, IN PLACE TO ALLOW ACCESS IN AND OUT. 
          SO IT'S LIKE A ROLLING GATE. 
          SO FOR US TO INSTALL LIKE A WHOLE NEW FENCE, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, WASN'T COST EFFICIENT. 
          SO WE, YOU KNOW, WORKED WITH OWNERSHIP AND THE TEAM TO PROVIDE THIS, UH, SIMPLE SOLUTION OF ADDING THIS ACOUSTICAL MATERIAL TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DUAL PURPOSE. 
          SO THE SCREENING AS WELL AS THIS AS WELL. 
          QUILTED. 
          YEAH, IT'S QUILTED FIBERGLASS. 
          THAT, THAT WHAT THIS SAYS. 
          YES. 
          THAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, AARON, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THAT? 
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I'VE ONLY SEEN IT, UH, IN WHAT THEY'VE SHOWN US IN THIS WITH THE, TO THE PLANNING BOARD, SO THAT THE SAME INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED IN THE PACKAGE TO THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          I HAVE NOT SEEN IT IN THE, UM, IN THE FIELD AT ALL. 
          BUT ONE THING THAT I, I CAN'T RECALL IF IT CAME UP AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING OR IN ONE OF OUR STAFF DISCUSSIONS, BUT WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, AT LEAST FROM THE VISUAL WAS, AND, AND FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE DAMPENING THAT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S DEEMED, UH, AN ACCEPTABLE TYPE OF, OF NOISE BAFFLING AND NOISE DAMPENING THAT, UH, WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AROUND CERTAIN ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT IN THE FUTURE, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP, YOU KNOW. 
          AND FOR OTHER PROJECTS. 
          WELL, I, I'M, I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW, UH, MORTGAGE, YOU RAISED IT. 
          ARE YOU, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT THE AESTHETICS OF THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T WANT IT ACROSS FROM MY HOUSE. 
          IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE, THE PURVIEW OF THIS, THIS COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT FLAMMABLE? DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WHERE IT'S GONNA BE LOCATED? MAYBE? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA IN RELATION TO THE SITE PLAN AND THEN MAYBE THAT STREET VIEW PLAN OR VICE VERSA,  WOULD BE COMING. 
          IF YOU'RE PUTTING THAT IN, WHAT'S GONNA BE VISIBLE TO THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET SIDE? I MEAN, WE DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT  LOOKS AT, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET SIDE, YOU KNOW, IF TWO HOUSES DOWN, THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE, I DON'T THINK I'D WANNA BE LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF FIBERGLASS. 
          UH, RIGHT. 
          SO THE MATERIAL WOULD BE PLACED AROUND THE SYSTEMS, UH, IN THIS AREA ALONG RUSSELL STREET. 
          AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT AT A LOWER ELEVATION THAN THE FENCE LINE ALONG THE STREET? NO. 
          SO I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS, DOESN'T THE, THE, THE TO TOPOGRAPHY OR THE, THE GRADE OF THE PARKING LOT IS LOWER THAN THE GRADE OF THE ROAD. 
          RUSSELL STREET. 
          IS THAT ACCURATE? UH, YES. 
          SORRY. 
          SO IF THE SITE DROPS DOWN, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET OF THAT FIBERGLASS, YOU KNOW, SHIELD IS, IS GONNA BE VISIBLE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT. 
          IS IT A FOOT, IS IT SIX INCHES? YOU KNOW, IS IT SOMETHING MORE? WELL, IF THEY'RE HANGING IT ON THE FENCE, ISN'T IT GONNA BE THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE NOT GONNA BE ON THE FENCE? CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          NO, I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID IT WAS GONNA BE THEY'RE UTILIZING THE FENCE TO TO, TO INSTALL IT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO. 
          ME TOO. 
          RIGHT? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD, KRISTEN. 
          SO, YEAH, UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M READING THE SITE PLANK BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS ON THE FENCE ON A, ALONG THE RUSSELL STREET SIDE OF THE FENCE, I SHOULD SAY. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER FENCE BETWEEN THE ALTI SITE AND THAT MULTI-FAMILY SITE TO THE LEFT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WITH THE, WITH THE PLAN, IT'S, IT'S 50 LINEAR FEET OF NEW ACOUSTICAL SCREENING AT THE PROPERTY LINE TO BE ONE, UH, ONE FOOT TALLER THAN THE ENERGY SERVERS ABOVE PAVEMENT GRADE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SITE BETWEEN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE GREAT, AND I SAW IT WHEN I WAS OUT THERE, BUT AS YOU MOVE, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS AS YOU MOVE INTO THE SITE AND GO FURTHER UP, RUSSELL, LET'S SAY, SO THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THAT SITE PLAN MM-HMM. 
          , THE PROPERTY CONTINUES TO DROP DOWN FURTHER AND FURTHER FROM THE ROAD GRADE. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY METAL CONTAINERS IN THE SITE RIGHT NOW THAT YOU CAN SORT OF SEE. 
          AND I THINK THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE GOING TO, SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF IS THIS ACOUSTICAL, YOU KNOW, FIBERGLASS, UM, GONNA BE PLACED ALONG THIS FENCE THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THIS VIEW OR NOT? AND I THOUGHT THE ANSWER WAS NO, BUT I THINK WE NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT. 
          SO, SO WILL YOU PLEASE GIVE THAT WILL BE SOME, WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE SOME FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE NOTE THAT, UH, 
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KRISTEN, AS ONE OF THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS YES. 
          REGARDING THE FENCE, UM, MY PROJECT MANAGER, NADAL, WHO'S ALSO, UM, HE, HE USUALLY HAS ATTENDS THIS AND THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING HE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIVY TO AS FAR AS THE INSTALLATION OF THAT. 
          'CAUSE HE, UH, SO UNFORTUNATELY HE'S NOT ON THE CALL. 
          HE WOULD'VE BEEN A BETTER ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ON THAT THEN I'LL DO. 
          NO. 
          UM, AND IF, IF WE WANTED TO SCREEN THAT, WHOSE PROPERTY IS THAT ON THE STREET SIDE OF THE FENCE? IS THAT YOURS OR IS THAT ALTIS? THIS FENCE, THIS FENCE BELONGS TO ALTICE. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS THEIR FENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS FENCE IS NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO IT IS SCREEN YES. 
          YOU MEAN THE FENCE ITSELF? NO, NO. 
          IF IT'S HUNG ON THE FENCE, OH YEAH. 
          THEN IT WOULD BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IT WOULD SHIELD OUT THE, THE CABINETS. 
          NO, NO, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT THE QUILTED FIBERGLASS COULD BE SCREENED. 
          I, MY ANSWER WOULD, WELL, I THINK THE APPLICANT'S GONNA RES GET BACK TO US ABOUT EXACTLY WHERE THEY INTEND TO LOCATE IT. 
          BUT IF IT, IF IT WASN'T ON THE FENCE OR IF IT WASN'T ON THE FENCE, EVEN IF IT WAS IMMEDIATELY INSIDE THE FENCE, THEORETICALLY SOMETHING COULD BE PUT ON THE FENCE TO SCREEN IT. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT, AT THE LAND BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE CURB, WHICH I'M ASSUMING BELONGS TO THE TOWN. 
          BUT I ALSO NOTICED WE HAVE A MANHOLE THERE, SO I SUSPECT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF CONDUITS UNDERNEATH THERE. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PLANT MUCH OF ANYTHING THAT HAS ANY KIND OF ROOT SYSTEM. 
          NO, THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH OPPORTUNITY TO PLANT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS. 
          UH, LIKE YOU SAID, THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, UM, ARE ONE, THE, IF, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHIELDING IT OUT, UM, COMPLETELY, IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO UTILIZE SOMETHING HAVING TO DO WITH THE EXISTING FENCING. 
          THAT WOULD BE NICE. 
          SOMETHING ATTRACTIVE THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE, LIKE IN SOMEONE'S BACKYARD IF YOU HAVE IT PUTTING UP FENCING BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY AND YOUR NEIGHBOR'S. 
          SO, SO, SO TER TERRY, WHAT YOU AND I ARE SAYING IS WHAT CHRISTIAN, I GUESS, WELL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          UH, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE THE FENCING IF IT'S GOING TO, IF, IF THIS QUILTED FIBERGLASS IS GOING TO GO ON THE FENCE, IF HYPOTHETICALLY WE DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          BUT IF IT IS HYPOTHETICALLY, OKAY, IT'D BE BETTER TO HAVE IT ON THE INSIDE OF THE FENCE. 
          THE OUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE OKAY. 
          AND THEN ON, YES, IT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULDN'T BE PLACED ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE. 
          IT WOULD BE, UH, WE COULD HAVE SOME KIND OF, UM, UH, VEGETATION, UH, DESCRIPTION. 
          WELL, NO, THE VEGETATION ISN'T A POSSIBILITY. 
          THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING, MIKE, IS THAT THE VEGETATION, YOU'VE GOT TWO ISSUES THERE. 
          THE, THE LAND WOULD WHERE YOU WOULD PUT THE VEGETATION BELONGS TO THE TOWN. 
          AND THE OTHER PIECE IS, IS THERE, IF YOU NOTICE THERE, MIKE, UM, AS YOU GO DOWN SLOPE, THERE'S A MANHOLE COVER, SO THERE'S PROBABLY UTILITY PIPES UNDERNEATH THERE. 
          SO IT ISN'T CONDUCIVE TO DOING ANY PLANTINGS ALONG THERE BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY ARE GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE ROOT SYSTEM. 
          COULDN'T YOU DO VINES OR SOMETHING? SAY IT AGAIN VINES? NO, I THINK YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CHAIN LINK FENCE, INSTALL AN ATTRACTIVE FENCE LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE IN SOMEONE'S BACKYARD SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF LIKE, UH, BOARD FENCE, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY HAVE THE PLASTIC BOARD FENCES THAT ARE GREEN OR SOMETHING BETWEEN PEOPLE'S PROPERTY LAWNS. 
          YEAH, THAT, UH, YEAH, YEAH, THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT ACOUSTICAL SCREENING WAS GOING UP THERE, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT HOW IT'S SUPPORTIVE, UH, SUPPORTED, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT HALF A DOZEN OR MORE TREES THERE, AND I JUST DON'T SEE HOW IT, IT'S GONNA BE SUPPORTED NOW. 
          UM, BUT I GUESS THE APPLICANT WILL GET BACK TO, I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THE APPLICANT OBVIOUSLY BELIEVES IT IS. 
          SO I THINK WE HAVE AN OPEN QUESTION YET. 
          SO, AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT, JUST FROM A VISUAL STANDPOINT, IF YOU SEE THAT BLUE VAN, WHICH IS PROBABLY A CABLE VISION OR ALTESE VAN IN THE MIDDLE. 
          YEAH. 
          THE VAN IS ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT FEET HIGH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S CLEARLY A DROP DOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I, I JUST WANT THAT TO YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE OF THAT. 
          I'VE BEEN OUT TO THE SITE AT, WE WENT WITH A COUPLE OF PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, AND, 
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AND AS YOU MOVE TO THE LEFT, THE DROP OFF IS EVEN MORE, THERE'S A RETAINING WALL IN THAT PARKING LOT, AND IT GETS TALLER THE FURTHER YOU GO TO THE LEFT. 
          SO I, I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT. 
          SO IF IT'S DOWN THERE, IT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN IF IT'S UP ON THIS FENCE. 
          I, THAT'S MY POINT. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, I THINK SO. 
          NO, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          I AGREE. 
          I HAD A QUESTION THAT I FELT REALLY WASN'T ANSWERED IN THE, UH, RESPONSES. 
          YEAH. 
          TO TERRY. 
          OKAY, TERRY, LET'S LISTEN TO THEM FIRST. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          LET'S LISTEN TO THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CHRISTIAN, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD, TELL US MORE ABOUT THIS FACILITY. 
          RIGHT, SO THE, AGAIN, THE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE PURPOSE OF THIS FACILITY IS TO SUPPORT THE BASE LOAD POWER AND THE NEEDS OF THE ALT FACILITY, UH, WITH THE FUEL CELLS DUE, BASICALLY IS CONVERT THE USE OF NATURAL GAS BY, UH, CONNECTING THE SYSTEMS TO THE EXISTING LINES. 
          THE NATURAL GAS IS THEN EXPORTED INTO THE SYSTEMS AND, UH, INSIDE THE SYSTEMS THEY CONTAIN, UM, COMPOSITES OF FUEL CELLS. 
          SO BASICALLY INSIDE THE FUEL CELLS, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, CERAMIC TILES AND STACKS OF THESE TILES. 
          SO ON THE NATURAL GAS, UM, HITS THIS MEDIA, IT CAUSES, UH, AN ELECTRIC REACTION PRODUCING ELECTRICITY. 
          THERE'S NO COMBUSTION WHEN THIS HAPPENS. 
          UM, THERE IS SOME WATER USAGE AT THE START OF THE SYSTEM. 
          UM, WATER IS NOT USED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SYSTEMS, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SYSTEM TO FUNCTION. 
          IT'S JUST TO KEEP THE TEMPERATURE REGULATED AS THESE SYSTEMS HEAT UP AND, UH, START TO STABILIZE. 
          UM, ANY, IN REGARDS TO ANY KIND OF, UH, SAFETY PRECAUTIONS OR WHAT WITH THESE SYSTEMS, I MEAN, THE, THE SYSTEM CONTAINS THOUSANDS OF SAFETY, SAFETY MECHANISMS TO, AT ANY TIME, IF THERE'S ANY, UH, DETECTION OF A GAS LEAK OR ANY KIND OF ABNORMAL ACTIVITY, THE SYSTEMS ARE PROGRAMMED TO SHUT DOWN THE MINUTE ANY KIND OF LEVELS HAVE SHIFTED OR NOT. 
          THEY'RE ALSO MONITORED 24 7 BY A, UH, REMOTE, UM, MONITORING CENTER, UH, BY BLOOM EMPLOYEES 24 7. 
          SO THEY'RE ALSO BEING, UH, MONITORED IN THAT SENSE AS FAR AS THE ACTIVITY. 
          UM, THOSE REPRESENTATIVES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHUT DOWN THE SYSTEMS IF THEY DETECT ANY SORT OF ABNORMALITIES AND, UM, SIGNAL, UH, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO A BLOOM MAINTENANCE OPERATOR TO BE OUT THERE AND RESPOND TO THE EMERGENCY IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF ACTIVITY. 
          THERE'S ALSO EMERGENCY SWITCHES AVAILABLE AT THE SITES IN CASE, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME SORT OF VISUAL EVENT OCCURS. 
          UM, SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UM, OWNERSHIP MIGHT DETECT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, A SITE SUPER OR WHATNOT. 
          SO THERE'S, UH, EMERGENCY SHUT OFF, UH, VALVES, AND THAT WILL TURN OFF THE GAS ALSO, UM, WHICH WOULD, UH, STOP EXPORTING ELECTRICITY TO THE BUILDING AND SHUT DOWN THE SYSTEMS AND PRETTY MUCH PUT IT IN SOMETHING CALLED A SAFE MODE, WHICH ONCE AGAIN, WOULD, UH, ALERT THE, UM, MONITORING CENTER AND A BLOOM REPRESENTATIVE WOULD BE OUT THERE TO, UH, ASSESS THE SITUATION. 
          WE DO, UM, ENCOURAGE WALKTHROUGHS WITH THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE'VE INSTALLED, UH, WE HAVE A SYSTEM INSTALLED AT, UH, THE EQUINOX, UM, IN ELMSFORD, I BELIEVE IS THE AREA. 
          UH, WE'VE WALKED THROUGH, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THERE. 
          THERE'S REALLY NO LIKE, SPECIAL EQUIPMENT OR TRAINING THAT'S NEEDED. 
          UM, JUST, UH, WE DO THE WALKTHROUGHS JUST SO THEY GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE SYSTEMS AND, AND THE WAY THEY OPERATE. 
          AND THAT'S USUALLY GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, AS FAR AS TO HANDLE ANY KIND OF, UM, EVENT THAT OCCURS. 
          UM, SO, UH, I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT IS THE GIST OF HOW THE SYSTEMS WORK AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA BE, UM, EXPORTED TO THE ALTESE BUILDING. 
          UM, I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING WAS AS FAR AS THE QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED REGARDING EMISSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, WE WANNA KNOW IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, READ THROUGH THEM AND IF YOU NEED ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION OR, UH, YOU KNOW, EXPLANATION AS FAR AS THAT GOES. 
          UH, BEFORE, BEFORE WE GET OFF ON, UM, EMISSIONS IS DOWN SAFETY A MINUTE. 
          WHERE IS THE MONITORING CENTER? WHERE THE BLOOM EMPLOYEES ARE? UM, IT'S GLOBAL. 
          UH, MOST OF, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR MONITORING CENTERS. 
          WHERE, WHERE'S THERE GONNA BE THAT'S GONNA COME TO THIS FACILITY? OH, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UM, MAINTENANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, FIELD MAINTENANCE GUYS LOCATED, UH, EVERYWHERE. 
          I MEAN, AND WE HAVE THEM IN QUEENS. 
          WE HAVE THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, IN EVERY JURISDICTION WE HAVE, UM, BLOOMFIELD, BLOOMFIELD 
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REPRESENTATIVES. 
          SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, I'M BA I'M BASED OUT OF QUEENS. 
          UH, I WORK REMOTELY FOR BLOOM. 
          THEY'RE A CALIFORNIA BASED COMPANY. 
          BUT WE, IN EACH JURISDICTION, I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE, UM, OKAY. 
          REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE WHAT, WHAT IS IN WESTCHESTER? UH, WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RESPONSE TIME. 
          IF SOMEBODY WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO REACH THE SITE, UH, WITHIN AN HOUR IN QUEENS, ARE THEY IN WESTCHESTER? NO, IN, IN, IN, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE LIST OF EMPLOYEES OF WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY ARE, BUT WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES WITHIN THE TRISTATE AREA. 
          CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US, SUPPLEMENT, UH, SUPPLEMENT THIS, PLEASE AS TO WHAT IS, WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN WESTCHESTER? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S GONNA BELIEVE IT'S AN HOUR FROM QUEENS, UH, UNLESS IT'S 2:00 AM IN THE MORNING. 
          UH, SO WE DO, I'M, I'M NOT SURE I FOLLOW, YOU JUST WANNA KNOW IF THERE'S REPRESENTATIVES LIVING IN WESTCHESTER THAT CAN MAKE IT. 
          I, I DON'T, NO. 
          PEOPLE THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO GO ON SITE HANDLE AN EMERGENCY. 
          YES, THERE'S MANY WITHIN THE TRI-STATE AREA. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S MANY. 
          I I'M NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IN PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY. 
          I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT QUEENS. 
          I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY EITHER. 
          I'M SAYING THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES THAT, I MEAN, IN WESTCHESTER, JUST TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, I I CAN, I CAN FIND OUT IF I HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT LIVES IN THE WESTCHESTER AREA. 
          I, I, I THINK CHRISTIAN, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WHAT IS THE RESPONSE, REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF RESPONSE TIME IN AN EMERGENCY ANSWER? I, I ANSWER. 
          IT'S NOT AN HOUR. 
          IF SOMEONE IS COMING FROM QUEENS, I THINK, AS MIKE SAID, UNLESS IT'S 2:00 AM IN THE MORNING, I WAS, EXCUSE ME. 
          I WAS, I WAS USING, I WAS USING LIKE QUEENS AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S WHERE THE REPRESENTATIVE WOULD BE DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS, MY POINT IS, UNTIL YOU TELL US, ONE OF THE SUPPLEMENT QUESTIONS WE'D LIKE YOU TO ANSWER, SIR, IS WHERE ARE QUALIFIED EMPLOYEES, UM, UM, WORKING, UH, ARE THERE ANY IN WESTCHESTER? AND THE ANSWER IS YES OR NO. 
          AND IF SO, WHERE? I MEAN, I, AGAIN, I CAN FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANYBODY PRESIDING IN WESTCHESTER OR WITH THE LO THE LOCAL, I MEAN, SURE. 
          I CAN FIND THAT OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT, IT'S THAT SIMPLE. 
          NOW, TERRY, I KNOW I CUT YOU OFF EARLIER, BUT I JUST WANTED, YEAH, I WANNA FOLLOW UP ON YOU AS, I THINK THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS, WHAT IS THE EXPECTED RESPONSE TIME IN AN EMERGENCY THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING THE MINIMUM TIME FROM AN EVENT INTO EUROPE? HAVE EMERGENCY STAFF THERE? WELL, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S A VISUAL EVENT, WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE OWNERSHIP TO CALL 9 1 1. 
          AND THEN BLOOM ENERGY IS DISPATCHED. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE, WE'RE THE, THE, THE SYSTEM'S ALSO GOING TO A SHUTDOWN MODE. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE AN EVENT, LIKE IT'S NOT BEING ADDRESSED AND IT'S JUST SITTING THERE AND SOMETHING IS, YOU KNOW, UH, OCCURRING. 
          THESE SYSTEMS ARE MADE TO SHUT DOWN, AND THEN THE BLOOM ENERGY REPRESENTATIVE IS DIS DISPATCHED OUT THERE TO ASSESS THE SITUATION. 
          SO THE EVENT IS, LIKE I SAID, THESE SYSTEMS ARE BUILT WITH, UM, THOUSANDS OF INTERNAL MECHANISMS TO KEEP THE SYSTEM, UM, IN A SAFE MODE UNTIL SOMEBODY'S THERE TO, UM, ASSESS THE SITUATION. 
          IS THERE A MANUAL OVERRIDE THAT, UH, ALLOWS IT TO BE SHUT DOWN MANUALLY IF THOSE SYSTEMS, IF THE, IF THE SAFEGUARD SYSTEMS ARE NOT UP YET? YES. 
          AS, AS ME, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE ARE EMERGENCY SHUTOFF VALVES AND, UH, E P O E EMERGENCY, UM, PUSH BUTTONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON SITE FOR ANY ALTS, EMPLOY OR WHOEVER'S MO, YOU KNOW, SUPERINTENDENT MONITORING THE SITE TO ACCESS THAT AND SHUT THE SYSTEMS DOWN MANUALLY. 
          SO WHO IS IT THAT PUSHES THOSE BUTTONS OF ALL THOSE LEVERS? UM, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL TEAM WHOEVER'S MONITOR SUPERVISING OR, UM, SECURING, SECURING THE SITE. 
          THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PER, I MEAN, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. 
          SO, SO IT, SO IT'S REALLY, SO IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT UPON ALL TEETH HAVING IN PLACE A PROCEDURE, RIGHT? IF THERE'S A THERE, YES, THERE'RE INFORMED, THERE'S THERE, THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, TIZ IS OBVIOUSLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS SITE. 
          JUST THINK OF IT AS LIKE IF THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, A, A GENERATOR IN THE BUILDING OR A HOSPITAL, THERE'S MECHANICAL ENGINEERS ALWAYS AVAILABLE IN BUILDINGS LIKE THAT, THAT MAINTAIN THE BUILDING. 
          SO WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ACTIVITY AT WOULD BE WELL INFORMED OF THE SYSTEM'S, UM, MANUAL FAIL. 
          AND IF T FAILS IN THIS FUNCTION, THEN THERE'S A PROBLEM. 
          NO, THE, I MEAN, THAT, IT'S JUST ONE OF THE OPTIONS. 
          IF THERE'S A VISUAL EVENT, LIKE I SAID, THESE SYSTEMS ARE MONITORED 24 7. 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY A VISUAL EVENT? IF SO, FOR SOME REASON, IF THERE'S SOME SEAM OR, UH, SOME SORT OF ABNORMALITY THAT'S HAPPENING 
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WITH THE SYSTEMS, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT OCCURRED. 
          I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF, UM, MALFUNCTION WITH THE SERVERS, UH, THE, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MAYBE LIKE A GAS LEAK WITH ONE OF THE EXTERIOR PIPES OR SOMETHING HAPPENS. 
          I MEAN, THINGS LIKE THAT CAN OCCUR NATURALLY ANYWHERE. 
          THESE SYSTEMS ARE BUILT TO DETECT THAT AND IMMEDIATELY CUT SUPPLY, SO THERE'S NO FURTHER SUPPLY TO THE SYSTEMS AND, UH, NOTHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENS. 
          SO THE, THE L AND G'S COMING IN, IT'S PIPED IN, THERE'S PIPELINES THERE WITH L N G ON THAT SITE. 
          UM, WE CONNECT TO THE, YES, WE, UM, UH, CONNECT TO THE EXISTING, UM, NATURAL GAS CONNECTION THERE. 
          SO A PIPE IS RUNNING FROM THE EXISTING UTILITY CONNECTIONS TO THE SYSTEMS. OKAY. 
          GUYS, WHAT I SUGGEST IS, LET'S GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS ONE BY ONE AND THE C A C MEMBERS ASK, UH, THEIR QUESTIONS OF, UM, OF, UH, BLOOM ENERGY. 
          NUMBER ONE. 
          UM, UH, DOES ANYONE, UM, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE ANSWER ON NUMBER ONE? MIKE, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTIONS SINCE WE DON'T HAVE IT OPEN? I, AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE IT OPEN IN FRONT OF ME, NOR DO I, I'M SORRY. 
          I, SO THE ANSWERS CAME THROUGH TODAY AND I WAS WORKING ALL DAY. 
          SO WHAT ARE ALL TE'S ENERGY NEEDS? WHAT USE WE MADE OF THE ELECTRICITY AND WHAT SCHEDULE IS ALL TES OPERATING A BUSINESS ON THESE PREMISES ON NEARBY? AND IF SO, WHAT BUSINESS ARE THE FUEL CELLS EXPECTED TO PROVIDE MORE OR LESS OR JUST THE AMOUNT OF ALL TEACHER'S NEEDS? WILL ANY UNMET NEEDS BE MET BY THE GRID? WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ANY EXCESS PRODUCTION? THE ANSWER WAS, UH, WHY DON'T YOU READ THE ANSWERS, KRISTEN, SINCE YOU WROTE 'EM ? UH, YEAH, SURE, NO PROBLEM. 
          UM, SO THIS PROJECT WILL GENERATE, UH, 1.5 MEGAWATTS OF ELECTRIC POWER TO COVER THE BASE LOAD ELECTRIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ALTESE DATA CENTER, UH, ON A 24 7 365 DAY BASIS. 
          THE ELECTRICITY GENERATED BY THE PROJECT WILL MAINLY BE CONSUMED ON SITE IN LIEU OF ELECTRICITY THAT'S CURRENTLY SUPPLIED VIA THE ELECTRIC GRID. 
          UM, WITH ANY, AS FAR AS ANY EXCESS PRODUCTION, UM, IT, IT IS EXPORTED BACK TO THE GRID. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DOES ANY C A C MEMBER WANNA ASK A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, NANCY, DO YOU WANNA SAY ASK NANCY, YOU'RE MUTED, NANCY, GOTTA UNMUTE YOURSELF. 
          , YOU GOTTA PUSH SOMEBODY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TRAINED TO DO IT, YOU GOTTA PUSH SOMEBODY. 
          HOW DOES THE, UM, SIZE OF THIS INSTALLATION COMPARE TO OTHERS THAT YOU'VE DONE IN OTHER, IN NEW YORK, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'VE LISTED HERE, LIKE THE CITY HALL AND THE HOSPITAL? RIGHT. 
          SO WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, WE ASSESS THE, THE BASIC NEED, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF, UH, ELECTRICAL NEEDS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE BUILDING. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS A RELATIVELY COMMON INSTALLATION. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UM, SIZES RANGING FROM 250 KILOWATTS, UM, FOR LIKE A HOME DEPOT BUILDING IN LONG ISLAND TO 10 MEGAWATT INSTALLATION, UM, FOR C COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IN, UH, STATEN ISLAND. 
          UM, THAT POWERS UP PRETTY MUCH, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO I MEAN, THESE VARY IN SIZE. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS A STANDARD, UM, COMMON INSTALLATION FOR A BUILDING OF THIS SIZE. 
          WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT EQUINOX? UH, THERE IS AN EQUINOX FACILITY, UM, IN ELMSFORD, UM, 10 MINUTES FROM THIS INSTALLATION SITE PRETTY MUCH, UH, THAT WE INSTALLED EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, AROUND THE SAME, I BELIEVE, I THINK THAT'S A 700 MEGAWATT SITE. 
          I, I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S AROUND THAT. 
          UM, AND WHAT, WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS IS THAT OR WHAT, UM, HEALTH CLUB, RIGHT? THE HEALTH CLUB. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A HEALTH FACILITY HEALTH CLUB. 
          HEALTH HEALTH CLUB. 
          NOT THE ONE IN EASTCHESTER? NO, UM, 4 0 1 FIELD CREST ROAD, I BELIEVE IS THE ADDRESS IN ELMSFORD. 
          THAT'S IN ELMSFORD. 
          IT'S ON THE NORTH END OF NINE A IN GREENBURG BEFORE YOU GET TO, I THINK THE, THE LA QUINTA INN IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF SAW MILL RIVER ROAD. 
          AND THIS IS MORE OR LESS OPPOSITE, UH, SO A BIT BEFORE YOU GET TO HOME DEPOT, WHICH WOULD BE IN MOUNT PLEASANT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND DOES THE, UM, DOES THE NOISE INCREASE RELATIVE TO THE SIZE OF THE INSTALLATION? LIKE A BIGGER ONE IS NOISIER OR NO, THEY GENERATE, UM, PRETTY MUCH IT'S UNDER A 70 D B A, 
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SO, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THE FURTHER AWAY YOU GET FROM THE SYSTEMS, THE, THE, THE, THE SOUND DECREASES. 
          UM, BUT NO, THE, THE SYSTEM'S AVERAGE AT, AT, UH, 70 D B A REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE. 
          AND, AND WHAT ABOUT HEAT? IS HEAT PRODUCED AS PART OF THE, UH, THERE IS SOME, THERE IS SOME, UH, HEAT EXHAUST, UM, BUT UM, THAT TEMPERATURE IS REGULATED WITHIN THE SYSTEMS AND, UH, THERE IS ALSO AN EXHAUST FAN THAT'S INSTALLED AT TOP OF THE SYSTEMS THAT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE SOUND, WHERE THE SOUND COMES FROM AS THE FAN KEEPS THE SYSTEMS COOL. 
          AND THE TEMPERATURE REGULATED, SO, SO YOU'RE ALSO LETTING OUT INTO THE ATMOSPHERE HEAT? UM, YES. 
          THE, THE, JUST TO, NOT LETTING OUT HEAT PER SE, BUT JUST MORE KEEPING THE SYSTEMS TEMPERATURE, UM, NORMAL. 
          WELL, E E E EITHER IF YOU MAKE, IF YOU'RE EXHAUSTING SOMETHING TO MAKE THE SYSTEM HAVE A NORMAL TEMPERATURE, THEN I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE EXHAUSTING HEAT. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          SO YOU ARE EXHAUSTING HEAT INTO THE ATMOSPHERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY, BECAUSE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE THINGS WITH LIKE, YOU KNOW, FAMOUS MANHATTAN KIND OF GENERATION OF CONED, WHEN THEY'RE PRODUCING STEAM, THEY'RE RUNNING THE STEAM THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE CITY STREETS TO HEAT THE BUILDINGS WITH THE EXCESS STEAM THAT'S INVOLVED IN THE PRODUCTION OF THE ELECTRICITY. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS INTO THE LOCAL ATMOSPHERE WHERE WE'LL BE EXHAUSTING ADDITIONAL HEAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, CHRISTIAN, YOU SAID IF I, I'M NOT SURE I GOT THIS RIGHT. 
          YOU SAID THE NOISE, THE AVERAGE NOISE WERE OF THESE SYSTEMS WAS 70 D B A IS, IS THAT WHAT YOU, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, THAT IS, UH, AARON. 
          UM, THAT'S A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WE ALLOW, ISN'T IT? AND WHILE YOU'RE, I'D HAVE TO, UH, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH I DON'T HAVE ON ME. 
          IT MIGHT BE 65 OR 70. 
          I, I CAN'T RECALL. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU'RE NEAR OR IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES. 
          THE ORDINANCE IS 65, EXCEPT FOR IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS WHERE IT CAN GET UP TO 70, UM, UNLESS YOU, IT CAUSES A NUISANCE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, IN WHICH CASE IT'S BACKED DOWN TO 65. 
          GOT IT. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YOU SAID THE AVERAGE IS 70, WHAT IS THE RANGE? AND I ALSO WANTED TO TAG ONTO THAT. 
          'CAUSE KRISTEN, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY AT WHAT POINT IN TIME IT GETS LOUDER, BUT I MISSED WHAT YOU SAID. 
          NO, AS WE, I WAS MENTIONING AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THE SYSTEMS FURTHER AWAY FROM THE SYSTEMS, THE SOUND OBVIOUSLY DECREASES. 
          SO I'M GONNA, I HAVE THE SOUND STUDY PULLED UP, UH, THAT WAS PERFORMED FOR THE SITES, RIGHT? I WAS GONNA, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU TO PULL UP THE SOUND STUDY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE LOOKED AT, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS IN THE FIFTIES, UH, THAT I THOUGHT, UH, IN, UH, UH, FIFTIES OR LOW SIXTIES, I THOUGHT, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS 70. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WITH THIS SYSTEM INSTALLATION, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY MAP IT OUT, UM, SOUND STUDY MAPS IT OUT FROM HERE AND MARKS OUT ALL THESE, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONES, AND THEN THE TABLE PROVIDES THE INFORMATION OF THE DISTANCE TO THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE WEST RESIDENTIAL, SOUTH RESIDENTIAL AND EAST RESIDENTIAL AND THE CALCULATED FUEL CELLS. 
          AND THEY, YOU KNOW, UM, THESE, THESE, UH, NOISE LEVELS ARE CALCULATED DURING THE DAY AND EVENING TIMES. 
          SO, UM, AND THEY BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE SOUND REPORT DOES, UM, OUTLINE THE CODE AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT'S ALLOWABLE. 
          SO THAT'S INCLUDED AS WELL IN THE SOUND STUDY. 
          SORRY, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SCROLLING DOWN. 
          SO BASICALLY, UM, FOR THE SOUND STUDY IN THE NOISE, UM, THE TEST LEVELS AT THE SOUTH AND EAST RESIDENTIAL, UM, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, PER THE SYSTEM THAT'S BEING INSTALLED, UM, EXCEPT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE WEST RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS WHERE THE SOUND ATTENUATION, UM, UM, SCREENING WAS PART OF THE SUGGESTION OF HOW TO REGULATE THAT AND, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT, THANK YOU, KRISTEN. 
          UH, SORRY TO JUMP IN. 
          SO THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT MY, I WAS THINKING EARLIER AND SAYING EARLIER, WHICH WAS I HAD BELIEVED THAT THE SOUND ATTENUATION, THOSE, THOSE FIBERGLASS BARRIERS WERE GONNA BE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, WHICH IS THE WEST SIDE YES. 
          OF THE SIDE. 
          SO THE WESTERN, AND THAT'S, SO THE TABLE THREE SHOWS PROPERLY, LIKE NOISE ANALYSIS AT THE WEST RESIDENTIAL TO MEET, YOU KNOW, UM, WITH THE SOUND BARRIER, BRINGING THOSE LEVELS DOWN, UM, AND THEREFORE MAKING US COMPLIANT. 
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SO SO YOU DON'T, SO YOU DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE ON THAT FENCE? WE SAW THAT WAS, UH, PARALLEL, UH, PARALLEL TO RUSSELL. 
          NO. 
          UM, NOW THAT I'M, I'M, AND MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT UNCERTAINTY AGAIN. 
          UM, NADAL, WHO IS THE PM UH, FOR THE INSTALLATIONS PORTION WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER THAT BETTER THAN I WOULD AS FAR AS LIKE WHERE, WHERE IT'S GOING. 
          UM, BUT BASED OFF OF THIS, YES, IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THAT WEST, UH, WESTERN RESIDENTIAL SIDE. 
          UM, WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT'S REQUIRED, YOU'RE GONNA GET, YOU'RE GONNA GET BACK TO US AND TELL US BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA SPECULATE FOR SURE. 
          NO, OF COURSE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON NUMBER ONE? UH, NANCY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON NUMBER ONE? NOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER TWO, THE QUESTION WAS, WILL THE BLOOM ENERGY INSTALLATION FUNCTION TO PROVIDE POWER IN THE EVENT THE ELECTRIC GRID OR GAS SYSTEM SUPPLIES AND ARE ERUPTED? IF NOT, WHAT WOULD BE THE ADVANTAGE? IF NOT, WHAT ADVANTAGE WOULD THE INSTALLATION PROVIDE TO ALL TEES? AND YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THE ANSWER, CHRISTIAN, PLEASE. 
          SURE. 
          UM, IN ITS INITIAL PHASE, THE INSTALLATION WILL BE DEPLOYED IN GRID PARALLEL MODE RATHER THAN MICROGRID MODE. 
          THIS, UH, THIS MEANS THAT WHEN THE GRID IS NOT AVAILABLE, THE FUEL CELL POWER GENERATOR WILL BE IN STANDBY MODE WAITING FOR THE GRID TO COME BACK UP. 
          ALTHOUGH THE SYSTEM WILL INITIALLY BE DEPLOYED AS A GRID PARALLEL PROJECT, MANY OF BLOOM'S MICROGRID CUSTOMERS START WITH OUR MICROGRID READY GRID PARALLEL SYSTEMS, AND THEN EVENTUALLY UPGRADE TO A MICROGRID BY ADDING SWITCHGEAR, UH, SWITCHGEAR MA UM, EQUIPMENT LATER IN THE PROJECT LIFE, OFTEN DEPENDING ON THE PER PERFORMANCE OF THE SURROUNDING ELECTRIC GRID. 
          SO IN THE MEANTIME, THE PROJECT WILL HAVE FOUR MAIN ADVANTAGES TO ALTICE. 
          ONE, IT WILL REDUCE THEIR ENERGY RELATED EMISSIONS OF GREENHOUSE GASES AND LOCAL AIR POLLUTANTS. 
          UH, TWO, IT WILL PROVIDE THEM WITH COST PREDICTABILITY RELATIVE TO ELECTRIC GRID SUPPLIED POWER OVER TIME. 
          UH, THREE, IT WILL PROVIDE THEIR DATA CENTER WITH HIGH QUALITY POWER THAT DATA CENTERS NEED, UNLIKE GRID POWER THAT IS SUBJECT TO VOLTAGE, VOLTAGE INSTABILITIES THAT CAN AFFECT EQUIPMENT. 
          AND FOUR, IT WILL ENABLE THEM TO QUICKLY UPGRADE TO A MICROGRID WHENEVER THEY CHOOSE TO DO. 
          SO. 
          ONE, LEMME JUST ASK ONE QUESTION. 
          I, I THINK YOU EXPLAINED IT, BUT I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD. 
          WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GRID PARA, UH, IS A GRID PARALLEL MODE LIKE A BACKUP GENERATOR? IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT, SO EXACTLY. 
          SO, UM, THE, THE GRID PARALLEL, UH, BASICALLY DOES RUN OFF THE GRID AND ONCE AGAIN, IT, IT BECOMES, UH, LIKE WHEN THE, THE GRID IS DOWN, THE SYSTEM'S GO INTO A STANDBY MODE WAITING FOR THE GRID TO COME BACK UP. 
          CHRISTIAN. 
          AND NUMBER ONE, WHAT CONFUSED ME WAS, AND NUMBER ONE, IT SAYS WE'LL GENERATE 1.5 MEGAWATTS OF ELECTRIC POWER TO COVER THE BASE LOAD ELECTRIC REQUIREMENTS ON A 24 7, 365 BASIS. 
          THAT'S NOT STANDBY OR RIGHT WITH PROVIDING, IT'S PROVIDING THE, YOU KNOW, 24 7, 365 BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, STABILITY OF THE GRID. 
          NOW MY, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF CONED IS GENERATING POWER, IS IS YOUR SYSTEM RUNNING AND THEY'RE JUST FEEDING IT BACK INTO CON ED? UM, BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE, UH, AN I, LIKE, DO YOU, UM, ARE YOU ABLE TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, BRIAN? YOUR MUTE? THERE YOU GO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THIS IS PROVIDING POWER AND THEN ANYTHING IN EXCESS GOES BACK TO THE GRID. 
          SO SIMPLE WORDS, THEN THIS THING IS RUNNING ALL THE TIME, IT'S NOT BACKUP. 
          CORRECT. 
          THIS IS PROVIDING ESIS POWER, RIGHT? ALL THE TIME. 
          ALL THE TIME. 
          SO THIS IS RUNNING 24 7 AND ES IS NOT BASICALLY USING CONED FOR ELECTRICITY, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING THEIR OWN ELECTRICITY USING GAS PROVIDED BY THE COMPANY BY CON. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST 'CAUSE I THINK I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE MIKE'S QUESTION IS COMING FROM BECAUSE THE ANSWER TO QUESTION TWO SEEMS TO NOT SAY THAT. 
          AND, AND WITH ALL THE TALK OF SWITCHING OFF TO THE GRID, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT SWITCHING OFF TO A GRID. 
          WE'RE WE'RE STAYING ON FULL-TIME. 
          AND THEN, UM, I DON'T GET IT. 
          IF YOU'RE STAYING ON THE GRID FULL-TIME, YOU'RE RUNNING THIS FACILITY FULL-TIME TOO. 
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NO, WE'RE NOT BASICALLY ON THE GRID, MIKE, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT UPGRADING TO A MICRO GRID. 
          THAT WAS SORT OF LIKE, I THINK IF YOU WERE, UM, RIGHT, A MICRO UPGRADING TO A MICROGRID WOULD BE, UM, A STANDALONE, UH, SYSTEM. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THAT THIS, THIS A STAND THIS, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A STANDALONE SYSTEM. 
          NO, THIS IS GRID DEPEND. 
          UM, THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, GRID PARALLEL. 
          WHAT'S THE STANDALONE SYSTEM? UM, THAT, SORRY, I'M, I'M REVIEWING SOME INFORMATION, UM, NOTES THAT I PREPARED. 
          UH, TAKE YOUR TIME. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, A MICROGRID, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MICROGRID, OBVI AND, UH, GRID PARALLEL IS THAT IT WOULD, UM, GIVE, UM, GRID INDEPENDENCE WHEN IT, WHEN IT, WHEN IT'S UPGRADED TO A MICROGRID. 
          SO THIS, THIS BEING THAT THIS IS GRID INDEPENDENT AND IT'S RUNNING PARALLEL TO THE GRID, UM, IS JUST BASICALLY TO SU YOU KNOW, SUPPORT AND SUPPLY THE BUILDING INDEPENDENTLY, BUT IT ALSO, UM, RELIES ON, YOU KNOW, CONNECTION TO THE GRID. 
          IT'S, IT'S ALSO, THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE GRID GOING DOWN, UM, THE SYSTEMS GO INTO A STAND. 
          THIS PARTICULAR INSTALLATION GOES INTO A STANDBY MODE IN THAT SENSE. 
          SO IF THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN, IF THE CUSTOMER DECIDES AT SOME POINT TO UP, UH, UPGRADE TO A, UH, A MICRO GRID THAT WOULD MAKE IT, UM, GRID INDEPENDENT, IT WOULD NOT BE, UH, A GRID PARALLEL SYSTEM. 
          WELL, I DON'T, I UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, I'M FAIRLY CONFUSED. 
          IF, IF RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT USING CON ED'S ELECTRICITY, UM, HOW IS IT NOT INDEPENDENT? I MEAN, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE, I'M NOT EITHER. 
          I'M MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THIS IS NOT COMPETING WELL, THE SYSTEMS ARE GEN, THE SYSTEMS ARE GENERATING THEIR OWN ELE, THE, THE INDEPENDENT ELECTRICITY TO THE AL ALTESE, THAT'S WHAT THE, THE SERVICE PURPOSES ARE, ARE DOING, BUT IT'S NOT FULLY INDEPENDENT WHERE IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A STANDALONE SYSTEM. 
          IT'S PARALLEL TO THE GRID AS WELL. 
          SO, SO LET'S SAY A STANDALONE SYSTEM WOULD BE, IF I WAS OUT SOMEWHERE IN CALIFORNIA AND WE DIDN'T WANNA RUN THE ELECTRICAL WIRES THROUGH THE TREES, THEN I WOULD HAVE A STANDALONE SYSTEM BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NO ALTERNATIVE OTHER THAN MY, UM, RIGHT. 
          IT WOULDN'T BE AN ACCESSORY, IT WOULDN'T BE AN ACCESSORY USE. 
          SO THIS IS CONSIDERED LIKE AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE BUILDING INSTEAD OF IT BEING A STANDALONE SYSTEM. 
          SO, SO WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SEMANTICS THING HERE. 
          THIS IS REALLY, THE BUILDING IS TOTALLY DEPENDENT UPON THIS. 
          YES. 
          AND THE REASON WE'RE SAYING IT'S NOT INDEPENDENT IS 'CAUSE THE ELECTRICAL WIRE IS TO CON ARE ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? EXACTLY. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS? START FROM DAY ONE WHEN BLOOM ENERGY INSTALLS THEIR SYSTEM, JUST TELL ME HOW IT GOES FROM ONE THE FIRST MONTH, THE SECOND YEAR. 
          JUST EXPLAIN IT TO ME INSTEAD OF MIXING THE MICRO GRADE WITH ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. 
          JUST EXPLAINING IN SIMPLE TERMS, PLEASE. 
          UM, AS I'M SORRY, AS FAR AS THE, ONCE THE SYSTEMS ARE INSTALLED AND UP AND RUNNING, HOW, UH, SO ON DAY ONE, WHEN YOU INSTALL YOUR SYSTEM, WHAT HAPPENS THE, ONCE THE SYSTEMS ARE INSTALLED, UM, WE, UH, ALSO BASICALLY HAVE TO GET, THINK YOU WANNA KNOW BEFORE THE SYSTEM IS INSTALLED, RIGHT ALFRED, HOW IT GETS INSTALLED, WHAT IT'S ATTACHED TO. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MISSING. 
          NO, NO, I THINK WHAT ALFRED'S, ALFRED'S QUESTION IS GETTING TO WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN TRYING TO GET AT IS WE'VE GOT THIS THING CALLED WHAT YOU CAN HOOK UP TO A MICRO GRID. 
          AND THE POINT IS, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? AM I CORRECT, ALFRED? IT'S LIKE WE'RE MISSING A PIECE HERE. 
          I JUST, I THINK AT THE, AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, KRISTEN DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING TO THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THEY PULL THE NATURAL GAS, IT COMES THROUGH THE SYSTEM, IT GOES THROUGH THE TILES, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A CHEMICAL REACTION. 
          IT CREATES THE ELECTRICITY. 
          CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THAT? UM, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION, AARON. 
          THAT'S VERY QUESTION. 
          I'M NOT ASKING, I'M NOT ASKING FOR THE CHEMISTRY OR THE ELECTRICITY. 
          I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHERE WE'RE CONFUSED IS WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE SYSTEM WITH THE GRADE ON DAY ONE WHEN YOU'VE INSTALLED THIS? JUST TELL US THE HISTORY. 
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HOW DOES IT GO FROM ONE THING TO THE OTHER THING TO THE OTHER THING? I THINK IT'LL JUST SIMPLIFY IT. 
          THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. 
          UM, I, I MEAN, IN SIMPLE TERMS, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET THE GREEN LIGHT FROM CON ED, THERE IS A SHUTDOWN TEST WHERE THE SYSTEMS ARE THEN SWITCHED OVER FROM CON CONED SERVICE TO BLOOM ENERGY SERVICE, AND THAT'S HOW THE SYSTEM POWER IS UP TOLD. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN, THEN WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN, NO, LATER ON, WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOU GUYS AND CONEDISON IN THE FUTURE? UM, I JUST BASICALLY IF WHEN IT'S RID PARALLEL, I MEAN THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHTFORWARD IN LAYMAN'S TERMS AGAIN, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE THEM WITH ANY EXCESS POWER WHEN THE BUILDING'S NOT AT, UM, FULL CAPACITY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, USUALLY AT NIGHTTIME THE BUILDING'S NOT UP AND RUNNING FULLY. 
          ALL THAT EXCESS POWER GOES BACK INTO THE GRID SUPPORTING THE GRID AND GETTING DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU SELL IT TO CON YOU SELL IT BACK TO CON ED OR YOU GIVE IT BACK TO 'EM. 
          UM, THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, BUT, UM, THAT, THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, IF THAT'S A QUESTION, QUESTION, YOU DO A OR B I'M NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A STATEMENT. 
          IT, IT CAN'T BE. 
          THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. 
          I'M ASKING YOU, DO YOU SELL IT BACK OR DO YOU GIVE IT BACK? I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, MY DEPARTMENT I WE'RE TALKING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO PLEASE ADD THAT AS A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. 
          IF YOU ARE GENERATING EXCESS POWER PRECISELY WHAT HAPPENS TO IT? ARE YOU SELLING IT BACK? ARE YOU TRANSFERRING BACK? I, I AM ASSUMING, BUT MAYBE I SHOULD ASK THIS QUESTION. 
          ARE YOU BUYING THE NATURAL GAS FROM CONED? NO, WE'RE NOT BUYING, UH, NATURAL GAS FROM CONED. 
          UM, CONED VIEWED NATURAL GAS. 
          HOW DO YOU GET YOUR NA RIGHT? I MEAN, WE WE'RE, WE'RE CONNECTING TO AN EXISTING, UH, UH, GAS LINE YEAH. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE IS PAYING THAT'S RIGHT. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S KIND OF GAS LINE AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE CONNECTING TO AN EXISTING WHO PAYS FOR THAT GAS THAT GOES INTO YOUR SYSTEM, THE OWNER. 
          I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THESE QUESTIONS HAVE TO DO WITH THE, YOU KNOW, I, I THOUGHT WE WERE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE QUESTIONS ARE LIKE COMPLETELY FOR LIKE OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR, OUR COMPANY. 
          I KNOW. 
          I, I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING TOGETHER AND, AND TALKING ABOUT, WELL, IT HAS TO DO WITH ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT CONCERNS OF THIS PROJECT, AND YOU'RE ASKING ME ABOUT FINANCIAL QUESTIONS OF WHO'S PAYING FOR WHAT GAS. 
          I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THAT WOULD, WHAT, WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT QUESTION IS. 
          IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CLIMATE ACT OF 2019, WHICH NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY, WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING TO NATURAL GAS SINCE IN NINE YEARS FROM NOW, THE STATE IS SUPPOSEDLY REDUCING ITS NATURAL GAS BY 70% AND IN BY 2040 TO ZERO, WE'D LIKE TO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE NATURAL GAS, HOW ARE YOU GETTING IT AND WHERE'S IT GOING? UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE'D LIKE, WE'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THIS SYSTEM. 
          SURE. 
          AND, UM, JUST, JUST, YEAH, FOR CLARIFICATION, CL CPA A IS IT'S CARBON NEUTRAL BY 2040. 
          THIS IS A 10 YEAR PROJECT, SO WE'RE, WE'RE FULLY, FULLY IN CONFORMANCE WITH THAT. 
          WELL, I I THINK THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, BRIAN. 
          I MEAN, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, NIGHTTIME DROP IN USAGE. 
          NOW, IF PRIMARILY THE ELECTRIC IN THIS BUILDING IS BEING USED TO, UM, FEED FOR SERVICE, WHICH ARE VERY BIG ENERGY, UM, USERS, AND I SUSPECT THAT THIS LOOKS LIKE A FACILITY WHERE IT ISN'T SO MUCH AN OFFICE FACILITY, BUT A FACILITY THAT MAY BE HAVING A SERVER FARM IN THERE OR SOMETHING. 
          WHAT, IS THERE A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THE ELECTRIC USAGE IN THAT BUILDING AT NIGHTTIME? I, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. 
          I CAN'T ANSWER YOU WHAT THAT GOES TO. 
          IS ANY OF THIS ENERGY BEING FED BACK INTO THE GRID OR IS THIS JUST A SOURCE OF CREATING A NEW LOCATION FOR POLLUTION AND NOT ADDING ANYTHING TO THE GRID, BUT JUST SERVICING THAT ONE FACILITY? I, I MEAN, IT IS A, IT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION IN TERMS OF ENERGY USAGE. 
          SO YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE LOAD ARE, ARE YOU ASKING BECAUSE OF MARGINAL EMISSIONS BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY REDUCES MARGINAL EMISSIONS? WELL, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT TWO BY 20 THAT WE GET TO QUE WE LATER ON THE QUESTION. 
          WE'LL GET TO THAT ONE. 
          WE'LL GET THAT. 
          I, I APOLOGIZE FOR CUTTING OFF. 
          THAT'S RESEARCH , BUT I I MEAN IT DOES, IF YOU'RE GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA FEED IT BACK MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT A HOUSEHOLD YEAH. 
          AT A CERTAIN POINT AT NIGHT, EVERYTHING GETS SHUT DOWN IN A HOUSEHOLD AND YOUR ENERGY USE DROPS SCHEMATICALLY. 
          IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE'S, THAT'S CALLED PEAK DEMANDS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SERVER FARM, 
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IT MAY DROP A BIT, BUT IT MAY NOT DROP ALL THAT MUCH. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION IS WHEN YOU SAY WHEN IT ISN'T IN PEAK USE, WELL, HOW MUCH OF A DROP IS THERE BETWEEN PEAK USE AND LOW USE ON THIS FACILITY? OKAY. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR DEMAND LOAN LOOKS LIKE, TO BE HONEST, WHAT THEIR PROFILE LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT THIS IS REDUCING EMISSIONS. 
          I MEAN, I, I DON'T WANNA BE REDUNDANT. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS WE OUTLINED. 
          WELL, I THINK WHEN WE GET THE ANSWERS, WE'LL KNOW THAT, WE'LL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S GO. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND, DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT OKAY. 
          I HAVE ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          NANCY, NANCY, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          IT MIGHT BE VERY STUPID, BUT WHEN YOU SAY WHEN THE GRID IS NOT AVAILABLE MM-HMM. 
          , DOES GRID REFER TO THE ELECTRIC GRID, CORRECT. 
          OF THE GAS SUPPLY? IF THE GRID, IF THERE WAS AN OUTAGE, IF THERE WAS A POWER OUTAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT CAME OFFLINE FOR SOME REASON, THIS, THIS WOULD SUPPLY POWER IN THE EVENT OF THAT STILL. 
          WELL, WAS IT, SO ALL THE SYSTEM NEEDS IS A GAS SUPPLY AND THEN IT USES THAT TO GENERATE ELECTRICITY THAT GETS USED. 
          CORRECT? YEP. 
          SO, SO THE ONLY TIME IT WOULD GO DOWN IS IF THE GAS SUPPLY WAS INTERRUPTED, OR IS IT ALSO SOMEHOW DEPENDENT ON, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTRICAL GRID GOING, STAYING UP? NO, IT'S, IT'S NOT DEPENDENT ON THE ELECTRICAL GRID STAYING UP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHEN THE GRID IS NOT AVAILABLE, UM, IN THIS ANSWER TO TWO MEANS, WHEN THE GAS SUPPLY IS NOT, IS INTERRUPTED FOR SOME REASON, I MEAN, THERE SHOULD, THERE SHOULDN'T BE FOR US, THERE SHOULDN'T BE AN OUTAGE. 
          THIS IS 24 7, 365. 
          THESE RUN OUR, OUR SERVERS RUN 24 7 365. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD INTERRUPT IT IS IF THERE WAS A GAS ABNORMALITY DETECTED. 
          WHAT IF THERE IS A, A WEIRD DROP IN PRESSURE, WHATEVER THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE OUT OF OUR CONTROL. 
          UM, WE'RE NOT CONTROLLING THE GAS LINE RUNNING INTO THE SYSTEMS, BUT WE CAN CONTROL SHUTTING THE SYSTEMS DOWN IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF ABNORMALITY DETECTED WITH THAT PRESSURE. 
          SO THE ELECTRIC GRID IS, ONCE YOU HAVE THIS SYSTEM IN PLACE, DOES THE ELECTRIC GRID BECOME IRRELEVANT EXCEPT AS A PLACE TO PUT YOUR EXCESS POWER SHOULD YOU HAVEN'T HAD EXCESS POWER? YES. 
          YES. 
          SO HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FROM, UH, THE PARALLEL ARRANGEMENT UNTIL BECOMES A MICRO GRID BY ITSELF? HOW LONG DOES THAT PROCESS TAKE? BECAUSE THIS IS THE EVENTUAL, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WRITE IN NUMBER TWO, THE EVENTUAL GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS MICRO GRID NOT TO RUN IN PARALLEL WITH THE EXISTING GRID. 
          NO, IT'S AN OPTION. 
          IT'S NOT EVEN AN EVENTUAL GOAL, IT'S JUST WE THAT THAT QUESTION, I MEAN, IT ELABORATED A LITTLE BIT OF HOW SYSTEMS GO, YOU KNOW, CAN BE CONVERTED FROM A GRID PARALLEL TO A STANDALONE MICRO RED. 
          MICROGRID RED. 
          THEN WHY DON'T YOU JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE AND SAY THIS IS JUST A BACKUP. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE JUST GIVING YOU INFORMATION'S. 
          NO, IT'S ALFRED'S, ISN'T IT? IT'S A BACKUP. 
          NO, NO, ALFRED, THEY'RE RUNNING NO, IT'S NOT OF THIS. 
          THEY'RE RUNNING COMPLETELY OFF OF THIS. 
          THEY'RE RUNNING COMPLETELY. 
          YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WHAT, WHAT THEY DID IN, IN, IN, IN THE ANSWER TO QUESTION TWO IS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A SCENARIO THAT REALLY ISN'T EXISTING HERE. 
          AND I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY CONFUSING. 
          I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT, BUT WHAT YOU HAVE, THERE IS A SITUATION THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE IN THIS AREA. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AREA PERHAPS THAT DOES NOT HAVE, UH, ACCESS TO A UTILITY, AND THEN YOU COULD START TO HAVE THE TYPE OF THING . 
          RIGHT? THE, THE REASON FOR THE, THE REASON FOR THE ELABORATION IS BECAUSE EXACTLY LIKE YOUR, YOUR INITIAL CONCERNS IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF IT BEING GRID PARALLEL AS OPPOSED TO BEING, YOU KNOW, RUNNING INDEPENDENT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A STANDALONE GRID INDEPENDENT SYSTEM. 
          I MEAN, WE WERE JUST PROVIDING YOU THAT INFORMATION. 
          WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT IF IT CONFUSED YOU, THEN WE APOLOGIZE. 
          BUT WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SHOWING YOU THE DIFFERENCE OF THE SYSTEMS AND HOW THEY START OUT INITIALLY IN THE PHASE BA YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF, UM, OFTEN DEPENDING ON THE PO PERFORMANCE OF THE SYSTEMS, AS THE PROJECT GOES ON, UM, SOME CUSTOMERS DO UPGRADE TO THE MICROGRID SYSTEM. 
          WE WERE JUST GO ELABORATING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON THE INSTALLATION FUNCTIONS THAT BLOOM PROVIDES, BUT, OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA GO BACK. 
          APOLOGIES. 
          I WANNA, WE WANNA GET TO MISSIONS. 
          SO LET'S KIND OF MOVE THROUGH THIS, THE ONES BEFORE THE EMISSIONS GO AHEAD. 
          BUT LET'S, LET'S KIND MOVE THROUGH. 
          OH, I WAS JUST, I HAD A QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN I SAID YOU WERE GETTING A GAS FROM CONED, YOU SAID NO. 
          AND IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT FROM CON ED WHO'S PROVIDING YOU GAS? NO. 
          NO. 
          THEY, I MEAN, UM, WE'RE GETTING THE GAS SUPPLY FROM CONED. 
          YES. 
          THEY HAVE TO, THEY, WE HAVE TO GET THAT. 
          YES, OF COURSE. 
          AND YOU, AND YOU DO HAVE I MET WITH, WE HAVE MET WITH CONED AND YOU HAVE APPROVAL. 
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THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER THREE. 
          WILL THERE BE A MECHANISM IN PLACE TO REMOVE IMPURITIES FROM THE NATURAL GAS BEFORE IT UNDERGOES THE ARE IMPURITIES EXPECTED TO BE? AND WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH I MUTANT REMOVED IMPURITIES? OKAY, KRISTEN? YES. 
          UM, WE, UH, DO HAVE MECHANISMS IN PLACE. 
          UM, AS A SAFETY REQUIREMENT. 
          ALL GAS DISTRIBUTION COMPANIES ARE REQUIRED TO ADD A SULFUR CO COMPOUND TO GAS SO THAT HUMANS CAN SMELL IT. 
          THESE, UH, SULFUR COMPOUNDS CAN POISON A FUEL CELL. 
          AND CONSEQUENTLY, OUR FUEL CELLS HAVE A FILTRATION, UH, FILTRATION SYSTEM THAT REMOVES THESE COMPOUNDS AND DEPOSITS THEM INTO A, UH, SEALED STEEL CANISTER. 
          NATURAL GAS ALSO CONTAINS TRACE AMOUNTS OF BENZENE, AND THIS CONTAMINANT IS ALSO CAPTURED IN OUR DESULFURIZATION CANISTERS. 
          THE SEALED CANISTERS ARE REPLACED EVERY 15 TO 36 MONTHS. 
          THEY'RE NEVER OPENED ON SITE AT ANY POINT IN THEIR LIFE. 
          AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THAT MUCH TIME, THE AMOUNT OF THE BENZENE THAT IS COLLECTED IN THE SEALED CANIS, UH, CANISTER IS EQUIVALENT TO WHAT IS CONTAINED IN A SINGLE GALLON OF GASOLINE. 
          UH, DUE TO THIS HANDLING PROTOCOL, THE MATERIAL IN THE SEALED CANISTERS IS NOT CLASSIFIED AS A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL UNDER THE RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND RECOVERY ACT. 
          AND IT IS TRANSPORTED WITHOUT EVER BEING OPENED TO RECYCLING FACILITY INDIANA, WHERE IT IS USED AS A SOURCE FOR MANUFACTURING VARIOUS COPPER COMPOUNDS, THEREBY AVOIDING COPPER MINING AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          OKAY. 
          QUESTIONS ON NUMBER THREE. 
          NOW IT'S PRETTY PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER FOUR. 
          THE STAFF REPORT PROVIDED C D C STATES THAT THE FUEL CELL PROJECT WILL PROVIDE 1,500 KW BASE LOAD POWER ASSUMABLY. 
          FROM THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT FROM THE NOISE CONSULTANT SLOT APPEARS THE SYSTEM WILL RUN 24 HOURS A DAY. 
          THE BLUE ENERGY DATA SHEET STATES THE SUE FUEL CELLS PRODUCE 0.034 POUNDS OF C O TWO PER M H M W H. 
          WILL THERE, I SORRY. 
          WILL THERE, WILL THERE BE A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO CONTAIN OR SEQUESTER ANY PRODUCED C O TWO? HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS SEQUESTERED CARBON? WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF C O TWO RELEASED INTO THE AIR DAILY? ARE C O TWO SCRUBS PROPOSED TO THE PROJECT? IF NOT, WHY? ALRIGHT, UH, BRIAN, YOU WANNA ANSWER THIS? UH, YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THESE ANSWERS? I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME YET, . 
          THAT'S ALRIGHT. 
          UM, THAT'S FINE. 
          I GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE, SO, SO THE EMISSIONS FROM ANY, UH, DISTRIBUTED ENERGY PROJECT ARE PROPERLY ASSESSED RELATIVE TO THE ELECTRICITY FROM THE ELECTRIC DISTRIBUTION GRID THAT ARE DISPLACED. 
          WHEN THE PROJECT IS INSTALLED, WHEN THE 1.5 MEGAWATT ALTICE PROJECT BEGINS OPERATING, THERE WILL BE 1.5 MEGAWATT MEGAWATTS LESS ELECTRICITY SUPPLIED TO THE ELECTRIC GRID. 
          THE LARGE POWER PLANTS SUPPLYING THE ELECTRIC GRID THAT WILL BE DISPLACED AS A RESULT OF INSTALLING A DISTRIBUTED GENERATION PROJECT, ARE KNOWN AS MARGINAL POWER PLANTS. 
          THE GREENHOUSE GAS AND LOCAL AIR POLLUTANT EMISSIONS OF THOSE PLANTS ARE KNOWN AND REPORTED BY THE US E P A IN ITS EEG GRID DATABASE. 
          THE PREEMINENT AND COMPREHENSIVE INVENTORY OF ENVIRONMENTAL ATTRIBUTES OF ELECTRIC POWER SYSTEMS IN WESTCHESTER, THE MARGINAL POWER PLANTS ON THE GRID THAT WILL BE DISPLACED HAVE AN EMISSION RATE OF OVER 1016, UM, 1016 POUNDS OF, UH, C O TWO PER UH, MEGAWATTS. 
          A BLOOM ENERGY FUEL CELL, UH, PRODUCES ON AVERAGE BETWEEN 679 AND 833 POUNDS OF C O TWO PER MEGAWATTS OF POWER PRODUCED, WHICH IS MUCH LOWER THAN THE MARGINAL POWER PLANTS. 
          IT WILL DISPLACE. 
          IN SHORT, THIS PROJECT WILL REDUCE EMISSIONS BY DISPLACING THE DIRTIEST POWER PLANTS, EFFECTIVELY REDUCING THE OUTPUT OF THOSE POWER PLANTS BY 1.5 MEGAWATTS. 
          IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SAME IS TRUE OF OTHER FORMS OF AIR POLLUTION LIKE NOX, THE AIR POLLUTANT THAT CAUSES SMOG, ASTHMA, AND OTHER RESPIRATORY DISEASES. 
          NOX EMISSIONS, UH, RATE FOR THE WESTCHESTER REASON IS, UH, REGION IS, UH, 0.4 POUNDS PER MEGAWATTS, WHEREAS THE EMISSION RATE FOR BLOOM IS 0.0017 POUNDS, UM, OF MEGAWATTS PER HOUR OR 235 TIMES LOWER. 
          THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN A WAVE OF NEW STUDIES INDICATING THAT LOCAL AIR POLLUTANTS ARE FAR MORE HARMFUL TO HUMAN HEALTH THAN PREVIOUSLY BELIEVE. 
          AND THE, UH, THAT THE IMPACTS OF THIS KIND OF POLLUTANT AND, UH, POLLUTION, 
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SORRY, UH, ARE PARTICULARLY HARMFUL FOR DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. 
          THERE WILL BE NO SYSTEM TO CAPTURE AND SEQUESTER C O TWO PRO, UH, PRODUCE FROM THE FUEL CELLS IN THE ALTESE PROJECT. 
          RATHER, IT WILL REDUCE C O TWO AND OTHER AIR POLLUTANTS AS DESCRIBED ABOVE. 
          AND I'M SORRY, LIKE YOU, YOU, YOU SAID WHAT THE DIRTIEST, UM, POLLUTERS, UM, EMIT VERSUS WHAT YOU EMIT AND I GOT A DIFFERENCE OF FOUR OH OH SPREAD. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? DID I GET THAT RIGHT? THERE WAS, WE OFFERED A RANGE, I THINK IT WAS, YEAH. 
          CAN YOU, CAN YOU SAY WHAT THAT WAS AGAIN? I'M SORRY. 
          I WROTE IT DOWN AND THEN I HEARD 1.56798 BETWEEN 679 AND 833 POUNDS OF C O TWO PER MEGAWATTS OF POWER. 
          AND WHAT THEY SAY IS THE POWER, IT'S THE CLEAN IS YOU, YOU'RE CLEAN, RIGHT? AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER IS, YEAH. 
          AND I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT ONE. 
          UM, YOU'RE SAYING THE WESTCHESTER MARGINAL PLANS, SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE NO PLANS IN WESTCHESTER, I BELIEVE SINCE WE'VE CLOSED , WHICH IS CLEAN. 
          UM, HARRY, WE COULDN'T HEAR YOU SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I SAID WE, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE NO ACTUAL PLANS IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY WHERE WE'RE PULLING FROM PLANTS OUTSIDE THE COUNTY AT THIS POINT FOR OUR YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. 
          SO, DATA, GO AHEAD. 
          I'M NO, GO AHEAD. 
          SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE IS, UM, AND I, UNFORTUNATELY, I'D HAVE TO TAKE YOU ALL OFF THE SCREEN AND GO, I DON'T, DID NOT PRINT THE DOCUMENT WHERE YOU GAVE THE RANGE OF LIKE COAL FIRED PLANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          YOU GOT A RANGE. 
          AND I WAS WONDERING, DID YOU ACTUALLY PULL THIS 1016 POUNDS OF CO2 FROM THE US E P A GRID? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT CONED DOES NOT BURN COAL THIS SUMMER. 
          THEY WERE AFRAID THEY WERE GONNA HAVE TO BURN COAL, AND THEY DID NOT HAVE TO. 
          WITH THE HEAT BEING MANAGED DOES NOT HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          EVEN WITH INDIAN POINT CLOSED, WE KNOW THAT SOME OF CON'S POWER IS NOT COMING FROM FOSSIL FUEL. 
          IT'S COMING FROM, UM, WIND AND SOLAR AND HYDRO. 
          SO I JUST WAS WONDERING, UM, THE NUMBER, UH, WHAT WAS THE NUMBER YOU GUYS HAD FOR THE NATIONAL AVERAGE WHERE THERE'S, WHERE THERE'S VER AT THAT ONE OF YOUR DOCUMENTS YOU GAVE US. 
          SO THE NUMBER THAT WE PULLED IS SPECIFIC TO YOUR LOCATION. 
          SO THAT'S ACTUAL NUMBER FROM EG GRID, WHICH PROVIDES THE INFORMATION OF WHERE YOU'RE GETTING YOUR POWER FROM TO THE GRID. 
          SO THE PLANTS THAT YOU PROVIDED, I, I'M SURE THAT'S ALL TRUE. 
          I I DON'T KNOW THAT OFFHAND TO BE HONEST, BUT KIND OF THE UTILITY PULLS POWER. 
          THAT INFORMATION IS ALL SUPPLIED WHERE THEY'RE PULLING THE POWER FROM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE DATA FROM. 
          SO THAT'S FACTUAL INFORMATION THAT'S GRANULAR TO WESTCHESTER. 
          IT'S NOT LOCAL, IT'S LOCAL. 
          IT'S LOCAL. 
          WELL, THEY'RE LOCALLY, THEY'RE PULLING IT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT CREATING IT IN, IN WESTCHESTER. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY'RE NOT CREATING IT THERE, BUT THEY'RE, IT'S NOT, POLLUTION IS NOT LOCAL IN, IN. 
          WELL, BUT AGAIN, I GET, I GET, I GET YOUR, I GET YOUR GO. 
          JUST JUST TO A, ANOTHER DOCUMENT YOU MAY NOT HAVE SEEN IS, UM, OUT, IF CAN FIND IT, IS THAT, UM, PART OF OUR TOWN CODE SAYS THAT A PROHIBITED USE IN ALL DISTRICTS SHALL BE ANY USE WHICH IS OBJECTIONABLE BY THE REASON OF ADMISSION OF SMOKE, DUST, GAS, OR OTHER FORMS OF AIR POLLUTION. 
          NOW, OUR STATUTE DOESN'T SAY, WELL, IF IT'S BETTER THAN SOMETHING ELSE, IT'S OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU I'D RATHER NOT HAVE CLEAN. 
          I MEAN, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, I GUESS. 
          WELL, I'M GONNA TELL YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I YOU UNDERSTAND IT THIS IMPORTANT. 
          THE C A DOES. 
          OKAY. 
          THE CA, THE C A C FOCUSES ON IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. 
          THIS IS OUR STATUTORY OBLIGATION. 
          MM-HMM. 
           THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ON THE TOWN AND ITS RESIDENTS. 
          NOW, AS TERRY POINTS OUT, WE'RE NOT AWARE OF A COAL FIRED PLANT OR EVEN A NATURAL GAS FIRED PLANT AS WELL IN WESTCHESTER. 
          BUT EVEN IF WESTCHESTER'S BIG PLACE, WHATEVER HAPPENS ELSEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE 20 SQUARE MILES OF GREENBURG IS NOT THE FOCUS OF THE STATUTORY HOW OF WHAT WE'RE TOLD TO FOCUS ON. 
          AND IT'S NOT THE FOCUS OF THE PROHIBITED 
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OF SOMETHING THAT IS PROHIBITED IN ALL GREENBURG DISTRICTS. 
          SO IT IS, IN MY MIND, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER MEMBERS OF THE C A C THINK, IN MY MIND, IT IS REALLY GOOD THAT THIS FORM OF ENERGY OF ELECTRICITY PRODUCTION, IT IS REALLY GOOD IN A GLOBAL SENSE THAT IT'S BETTER THAN OTHER FORMS OF ELECTRICITY PRODUCTION. 
          BUT THAT IS MARGINALLY OR NOT AT ALL RELEVANT TO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO REPORT ON TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE TOWN BOARD. 
          WE'RE GOING TO REPORT ON WHAT OUR STATUTE REQUIRES US TO REPORT ON, WHICH IS HOW IT AFFECTS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND ITS RESTAURANTS. 
          I CAN MAY NOT, IF, I HOPE YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          'CAUSE OTHERWISE, MY CONCERN, MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND  THE ACTUAL, NOT, NOT, I MEAN, I'M NOT THE TECHNOLOGY I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, BUT THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU POSE MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS AND HOW YOU CAN ACTUALLY BETTER ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE. 
          SO IF YOU, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO FURTHER UNDERSTAND, GO AHEAD, GO, GO AHEAD. 
          IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO FURTHER UNDERSTAND IT AND ACTUALLY HAVE IT EXPLAINED, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO. 
          BUT I, I JUST TO BE HONEST, I KIND OF GET THE IMPRESSION THAT WE CAME INTO THIS MEETING AND YOU ALREADY HAD YOUR MINDS MADE UP. 
          UM, WE DID. 
          THAT IS A TOTALLY UNFAIR COMMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          PLEASE EXPLAIN. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING. 
          WE'VE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          PLEASE EXPLAIN. 
          YOU DID NOT ANSWER. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, WE ASKED YOU HOW MANY POUNDS IS EMITTED DAILY? SHOW ME WHERE IN THE GREEN YOU HAVE TOLD US HOW MANY POUNDS. 
          WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF C O TWO RELEASED INTO THE AIR DAILY? WHAT? SHOW ME IN THE GREEN WHERE YOU ANSWERED THAT. 
          HOW MANY POUNDS? WE, WE ANSWERED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, SIR. 
          YOU DID NOT, WE ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          YES, WE DID, SIR. 
          NO, YOU DID NOT ANSWER HOW MANY, WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF C O TWO RELEASED INTO THE AIR DAILY? KRISTEN, WHERE ARE THE WORDS THAT ANSWER THAT? OKAY, SO, SO, SO LET ME JUST, LET ME JUST HOP IN FOR A SECOND. 
          I, I DO AGREE WITH, UM, VICE CHAIR SIEGEL, THAT, THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION WITHIN THE REPORT, THAT FIGURE WAS NOT PROVIDED. 
          NOW I THOUGHT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN SOME OTHER DOCUMENTATION, UM, OR AT LEAST IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT. 
          AND CHRIS, THERE WAS DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT AT MY DESK, SO I DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING AT MY DISPOSAL. 
          SO WE, I ERIN, I I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO OUR PRODUCT DATA SHEET. 
          AND A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THE, I GUESS OUR FRUSTRATION IS A LOT OF THIS MATERIAL HAS BEEN PASSED AROUND SEVERAL TIMES AND WHY WE FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND THIS IS, THIS IS NO DISRESPECT TO ANYBODY, BUT THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. 
          WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE ANSWERED THESE QUESTIONS SEVERAL TIMES AND PROVIDED MORE THAN ENOUGH INFORMATION, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          NEVER BEEN. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TROUBLE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MULTIPLE BOARDS WITHIN THE TOWN, AND WHILE YOU HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, YOU HAVEN'T MET WITH THIS GROUP. 
          SO THERE'S GONNA BE OVERLAP AND SOME REDUNDANCY IN THE QUESTIONS ASKED. 
          BUT THEY, WE WERE, WE WERE PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE MEMBERS WEREN'T ON OR, OR ON THAT BOARD. 
          WHEN YOU GO TO THE ZONING BOARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SIMILAR QUESTIONS THAT ARE GONNA COME UP AT THE ZONING BOARD. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOU FEEL LIKE, HEY, WE'VE ALREADY ANSWERED THESE, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT GROUP OF MEMBERS. 
          NO, ABSOLUTELY. 
          I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU. 
          I I, I'M TO YOU NAVIGATE . 
          I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT WE'VE ALSO BEEN MEETING, WE'VE BEEN MEETING THESE DEMANDS IN SUCH A VERY TIME, SHORT TIME SPAN. 
          I MEAN, WE JUST HAD THAT PLANNING BOARD MEETING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, A WEEK LATER WE ARE MEETING WITH THE CONCERN, YOU KNOW, THE ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS FINE. 
          WE, WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UM, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S THERE, THERE'S INFORMATION THAT I JUST FEEL LIKE EVEN WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, AGAIN, LIKE, JUST, IT'S JUST THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE GETTING. 
          THAT'S WHY BRIAN FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST FEELS LIKE MAYBE THE MIND'S ALREADY MADE UP BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE THOROUGHLY GIVEN ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THIS PROJECT. 
          AND I MEAN, CERTAIN QUESTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, ON A DAILY BASIS, I MEAN, WE GIVE YOU, I'M GONNA SHARE BASICALLY WHAT OUR, UH, SPREAD DATA SHEET, UM, BASICALLY SAYS. 
          UM, I MEAN NUMBERS AS FAR AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING DAILY. 
          THESE ARE OUR AVERAGE NUMBERS. 
          AND I MEAN, I, THAT'S MORE THAN A FAIR OF INFORMATION. 
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SO THE, AS FAR AS THE EMISSIONS OF THE C O TWO, I MEAN, AND WE STATED THIS IN OUR RESPONSE LETTER. 
          SO AGAIN, REDUNDANT INFORMATION BEING PASSED AROUND, THESE ARE, THESE ARE ON AVERAGE. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU, WE GOTTA BREAK IT DOWN TO NUMBERS, TO HOURS, MILLISECONDS STAYS, WE'LL BE, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY TEAM AND DO THAT. 
          KRISTEN, WE ASKED YOU FOR ONE FIGURE HOW MUCH PER DAY WE DID. 
          YOU ARE NOT ASK, YOU ARE NOT ACCURATELY STATING WHAT THE QUESTION WAS. 
          IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU AND BRIAN HAVE BEEN OPING FOR 20 MINUTES. 
          WE'RE GIVING YOU, YOU DIDN'T ASK US, MIKE. 
          YOU DIDN'T ASK US ONE QUESTION. 
          YOU ASKED US 10 QUESTIONS. 
          YOU ASKED US 10 QUESTIONS YESTERDAY THAT WE PROVIDED ANSWERS TO. 
          SO THAT'S VERY UNFAIR FOR YOU TO SAY THAT YOU ASKED THIS ONE QUESTION. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S JUST A WHOLE SERIES OF QUESTION. 
          I THINK WE'RE NOT BEING PRODUCTIVE HERE. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND, AS MR. SIEGEL HAS POINTED OUT, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A, A RECOMMENDATION HERE BASED ON FACTS AND UNDERSTANDING. 
          WE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF CONFUSION BASED ON YOUR ANSWER TO QUESTION TWO. 
          WE HAD PEOPLE WHO COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR ANSWER THE WAY IT WAS WORDED. 
          UM, WE HAD CONFUSION AS TO WHERE THE FENCE IS. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION HERE TONIGHT. 
          IT HASN'T NECESSARILY ORIGINATED WITH US, WHICH THEN I HAVE TO SAY, IN ALL HONESTY, DOESN'T INSPIRE CONFIDENCE IN OTHER ANSWERS. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA YOU GOTTA HAVE, LOOK AT IT FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW TOO. 
          SO I SUGGEST WHAT WE DO IS WE TRY AND WORK THROUGH THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE AND WORK TOWARDS THIS A RECOMMENDATION. 
          OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BASED ON FACT, NOT ON EMOTION. 
          THIS IS NOT, WE'RE NOT, THE, THE TREE HUG IS TO GO OUT AND, AND ENDORSE EVERYTHING THAT COMES ALONG. 
          THAT QUOTE IS GREEN, NOR DO WE OPPOSE THINGS NECESSARILY. 
          WE'RE RATHER A UNIQUE GROUP IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND WE'RE SORT OF KNOWN FOR IT, THAT WE GO BY THE SCIENCE. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE THIS WHOLE BIG THING GOING ON WITH BLOWERS RIGHT NOW, LEAF BLOWERS, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT WILLING TO SAY THAT JUST REPLACING GAS BLOWERS WITH ELECTRIC BLOWERS IS A SOLUTION. 
          'CAUSE WE FOUND OUT THE ELECTRIC BLOWERS AFTER WE DID OUR RESEARCH ARE AS NOISY AS THE GAS BLOWERS. 
          SO IT'S NOT A SOLUTION. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD A MEMBER WHO LOOKED AT 250 LEAF BLOWERS AND WHAT THEIR NOISE LEVEL WAS. 
          AND LET ME TELL YOU, WE'RE TAKING A LOT OF FLACK FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COME OUT ENDORSING ARBITRARILY ELECTRIC LEAF BLOWERS. 
          SO WE DO DO SCIENCE HERE. 
          SO HELP US WORK WITH THE SCIENCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S FAIR. 
          NO, APPRECIATE. 
          WE, WE, WE APPRECIATE GONNA ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF C O TWO RELEASED IN THERE DAILY? YES OR NO? WE GAVE YOU AN ON AVERAGE BASIS NUMBER IF YOU NEED DAILY. 
          WELL, I WILL HAVE TO, TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT BECAUSE WE NOT WAIT, I, I, I, I DON'T SEE AN, I DON'T SEE IN WHAT I'VE READ WHAT YOU PUT ON THE SCREEN, AND I'M SURE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TOO. 
          IT DOESN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          HE SAID YOU WOULD PROVIDE MIKE. 
          MIKE. 
          I THINK, I THINK IT, IT MAY NOT BE IN THE GREEN IF WE'RE JUST REFERRING TO THE RESPONSE. 
          I THINK WHAT THE APPLICANT'S SAYING IS, AND THERE WAS A LOT, AND, AND I WANT THE APPLICANT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT WAS REFERRED TO THE C A C LAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT, REQUESTED TO BE PUT ON A WEEK LATER AND TO GET A REPORT THREE DAYS AFTER THAT, WHICH IS A LOT OF PRESSURE FOR A VOLUNTEER GROUP. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          SO, PARTICULARLY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY, THEY DON'T, THAT I, I DON'T UNDER FULLY UNDERSTAND AND THEY CERTAINLY DON'T UNDERSTAND, OF COURSE. 
          UM, BUT GETTING BACK TO MIKE'S POINT, SO THERE WAS A LOT OF PAPERWORK AND INFORMATION. 
          THE APPLICANT'S DONE A LOT OF WORK AND SUBMITTED A LOT OF MATERIALS. 
          I THINK PERHAPS THE ANSWER IS IN ONE OF THE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT I FORWARDED ALONG THAT COULD HAVE BEEN 60 PAGES WORTH OF DOCUMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN MISSED. 
          SO I, I'M JUST TRYING TO BRIDGE THE GAP HERE. 
          WHY, WHY CAN'T THE APPLICANT TELL US WHAT IT IS? IF IT'S SUCH AN, THEY SAID THEY WOULD FAX IT. 
          I BELIEVE SHE JUST SAID SHE WOULD FAX. 
          WE CAN'T, WE, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO TO ANSWER THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          IT'S NOT THAT I CAN'T ANSWER IT. 
          I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT WAS NOT A QUESTION POSED TO US PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. 
          SO I'LL HAVE TO GET YOU THAT. 
          WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF C O TWO RELEASED IN THE AIR DAILY THAT WAS POSED PRIOR TO THIS MEETING? OKAY, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, MIKE. 
          SO LET'S MOVE ON. 
          OH, NO, NO. 
          I WANTED TO FIND OUT, 'CAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT TO WHAT WE TELL THE TOWN PLANNING BOARD. 
          OR THEY, OR ARE THEY NOT GOING TO GIVE US AN ANSWER? SHE SAID SHE WAS. 
          MAY I SAY SOMETHING? YES, MA'AM. 
          SURE. 
          I I THINK THAT THE BLOOM ENERGY'S POINT HERE IS THAT WHATEVER THE ACTUAL NUMBER WOULD BE, IT, WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT IT'S GONNA BE DEFINITELY LESS THAN THE NUMBER WOULD BE IF THEY WERE TAKING THE ELECTRICITY WITHOUT THEIR SYSTEM, WITHOUT THE FUEL CELLS IN PLACE IN THE GLOBE. 
          NOT IN GREENBERG. 
          WELL, NO. 
          ANYWHERE. 
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I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SORRY. 
          WELL, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS IF, IF WE BELIEVE AND IF IT CAN BE STATED THAT CON ED ALL ITS DIFFERENT WHEREVER ALL THE ELECTRICITY IS COMING FROM THROUGH CON ED, IF WE CAN. 
          WELL, I THINK THE THING WE DO IS WE CHECK THE, GO AHEAD. 
          GO AHEAD NANCY. 
          WE CHECK THE EPA GRID, WE CHECK THOSE NUMBERS. 
          OBVIOUSLY. 
          I WANTED TO HEAR, NANCY, WERE YOU THROUGH, OR DID YOU I'M SORRY, I SORT OF, I'M AFRAID I RAN, I I'M AFRAID I RAN OUT OF STEAM. 
          BUT I THINK THAT I, I THINK THAT I I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD THAT, UM, BLOOM ENERGY'S POINT IS THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER ON A GIVEN DAY OR WHAT THE AVERAGE ORGANIC GIVEN DAY. 
          YOU JUST KNOW THAT IT'S BETTER THAN YEAH. 
          WHAT THE EMISSIONS WOULD'VE BEEN IF IT WAS COMING THROUGH CON THROUGH CONED. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S THEIR POINT. 
          AND, AND YEAH, THAT'S THEIR POINT. 
          THAT'S THEIR POINT. 
          AND WE WE'LL WRITE, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY. 
          AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS COMING OUT INTO GREENBERG BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE COMPARING IT. 
          THIS SAYS, OKAY, THIS IS BETTER THAN IF A CON ED PLANT EXISTED IN GREENBURG. 
          'CAUSE IF A CON ED PLANT EXISTED IN GREENBURG, NO, NO, THE PLANT DOESN'T. 
          IT DOES. 
          THE PLANT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HERE. 
          CON ED IS HERE GETTING ELECTRICITY FROM HERE AND THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT NOT GREENBERG. 
          AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GREENBERG. 
          THAT'S OUR JOB. 
          I THINK THIS, I THINK WE'RE RIGHT NOW HAVING A CONVERSATION THAT'S A, AS A CAC CONVERSATION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE HAVE FOR OUR APPLICANTS. 
          NUMBER FIVE, WHAT IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THE SYSTEM BE INSTALLED? WHAT IS THE CONTRACT BETWEEN BLOOM ENERGY AND ALTS PROVIDE ABOUT MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS AND DISPOSAL OF FUEL CELLS AT THE END OF THEIR USUAL LIFE? OKAY, CHRIS, THE CONTRACT BETWEEN ALT AND BLOOM ENERGY IS A TERM OF 10 YEARS. 
          SO THAT IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. 
          UM, THE CONTRACT INCLUDES AN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, ALL OF WHICH WILL BE PERFORMED BY BLOOM ENERGY AT THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE OF, UH, THE FUEL CELLS WILL BE RETURNED TO BLOOM'S MANUFACTURING CENTER JUST OUTSIDE OF, UH, WILMINGTON, DELAWARE, WHERE THE COMPONENT PARTS WILL BE RECYCLED AND REUSED. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON NUMBER FIVE? WHAT HAPPENS AFTER 10 YEARS? THAT'S THE END OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE END OF THE TERM. 
          IF THE, IF THE CLIENT WISHES TO EXTEND IT, THEN THE CONTRACT'S EXTENDED, OTHERWISE THE SYSTEMS ARE REMOVED AND RECYCLED. 
          IS THERE A WAY WE CAN SEE THAT CONTRACT? BECAUSE WE'RE SORT OF, I GUESS ONE OF OUR ALWAYS CONCERNS IS THAT WITH ANY TECHNOLOGY, WE DON'T GET LEFT WITH THE WASTE IN OUR TOWN. 
          NO, YOU WOULDN'T. 
          I MEAN, THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN. 
          . 
          WELL, THAT'S THIS WAY WE'VE HEARD THAT. 
          I HATE TO, IT'S BLOOM'S RESPONSIBILITY. 
          I MEAN, LIKE, UH, IT'S AN OBLIGATION, UM, TO, TO REMOVE THESE MATERIALS FROM THE SITE. 
          I MEAN, IT WOULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF NEGLIGENCE. 
          SO IT IS STATED IN A CONTRACT THAT, THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN. 
          OKAY, MIKE? YEP. 
          NOW I FINALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          YOU'RE SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE FUEL CELLS N NANCY, WE'LL DO THIS, WE'LL HAVE OUR OWN DISCUSSION. 
          NO, BUT, BUT, BUT MAYBE THEY, MAYBE WHAT THEY, I MEAN, MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION THEY CAN ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          IF WE, IF, IF WE'RE JUST USING CONED, UM, POWER YEP. 
          IS ANY C O TWO BEING RELEASED IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG OR IT'S JUST BEING RELEASED SOMEWHERE ELSE? AND SO WE'RE GOING FROM ZERO TO WHATEVER THESE FUEL CELLS ARE GONNA THROW OFF. 
          ISN'T THAT, ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S A LOCAL CONCERN IN A WAY. 
          YES. 
          IN A, IN A WAY IT IS NASA IN A, IN A WAY, THAT'S WHAT, YEAH. 
          UM, SO RIGHT. 
          SO, SO THAT PARAGRAPH WHERE WE MENTIONED THOSE NUMBERS OF THE C O TWO BEING RELEASED, IT'S, IT, IT, THAT THAT WAS OUR NUMBER. 
          IT'S 235 TIMES LOWER THAN WHAT WOULD BE, OR, YOU KNOW, LOWER THAN WHAT IS NORMALLY RELEASED. 
          UM, BUT, BUT HIS POINT IS, IS THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE A POWER PLANT HERE, WHICH WE DON'T, THEN IF WE'RE JUST TAKING IT FROM CON END, THERE'S ZERO CARBON . 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION TO SAY, WELL, IT'S, IT'S MORE EFFICIENT THAN THIS. 
          OR IT'S, IT'S CLEANER THAN THIS BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT BEING CLEAN RIGHT HERE FOR US. 
          AND IF THE POWER PLANTS ARE EMITTING, YOU KNOW, CARBON DIOXIDE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD THAT'S NOT PERTINENT, ALL WE CARE ABOUT IS WHAT'S BEING RELEASED HERE. 
          AND WE SEE THAT USING THE FUEL CELLS, SOME WILL BE RELEASED. 
          AND MAYBE IF THEY WEREN'T USING THE FUEL CELLS, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY BEING RELEASED IN GREEN. 
          WE WOULD BE OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          SO IT'S BETTER FOR THE WORLD TO BE USING THE FUEL CELLS MAYBE. 
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RIGHT. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING THE USE OF, SO YOU'RE SAYING THE USE OF, UM, UH, CARBON AND THROUGH CONED IS ZERO AT THIS MOMENT IN, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG? WELL, IT'S LESS, IT'S GONNA BE CERTAIN LESS, BUT THE PLANTS ARE NOT NEAR US. 
          WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING, I YOU, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, THAT THE, ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THIS SYSTEM, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE, THE, THE CARBON BEING RELEASED BY CONANT OR THE USE OF CON IN THE TOWN OF GREEN BURN YES. 
          IS NON-EXISTENT. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT HERE. 
          IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          IT'S HAVING A COAL FIRED POWER PLANTS IN GREENBURG. 
          WELL, CONED IS NOT USING COAL-FIRED, FIRE FIRED PLANTS. 
          I'M SAYING THAT'S, BUT THAT'S THE PART OF THEIR AVERAGE IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE REST OF THE WORLD. 
          AND IT'S VERY NOBLE, BUT IT'S JUST NOT OUR SCOPE. 
          WELL, I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF, UM, GETTING, I THINK WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS WE SHOULD GO THROUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          OH, SORRY, I GOTTA PUT BACK ON MY GLASSES. 
          NUMBER SIX, UH, IS, NUMBER SIX IS, WHAT DOES EFFICIENCY MEAN IN THIS CONTEXT? CHRISTIAN EFFICIENCY MEANS, UH, THE CONVER, UH, CONVERSION EFFICIENCY AT WHICH THE SYSTEMS CONVERTS FUEL INTO ELECTRICITY. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW MANY UNITS OF FUEL DOES IT REQUIRE TO GENERATE A GIVEN UNIT OF ELECTRICITY? MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE EFFICIENCY OF THE SYSTEM IS HIGHER THAN THE EFFICIENCY OF THE POWER PLANTS. 
          IT WILL BE DISPLACING, RESULTING IN A NET DECREASE IN EMISSIONS AND FUEL USE OVER TIME. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT NUMBER SIX? OKAY. 
          NUMBER SEVEN. 
          WHAT AMOUNT OF CARBON IS PRODUCED BY THE POWER ALLT WOULD OTHERWISE RELY ON? UH, CHRISTIAN. 
          UH, THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO MEASURE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF A DISTRIBUTED ENERGY SOURCE, LIKE A BLOOM ENERGY FUEL CELL, IS TO COMPARE IT AGAINST THE MARGINAL EMISSIONS RATE. 
          UM, WHAT WE'VE INDICATED IN, UH, THE RESPONSE FOR QUESTION NUMBER FOUR, SO YOU KNOW THIS, WHICH CAPTURES THE DISPLACED ALTERNATIVES OF ENERGY RESOURCES AT THE MARGIN. 
          WHEN MORE EFFICIENT OR COST-EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS DISPLACE MARGINAL POWER SOURCES, THE HIGHEST COST RESOURCES ARE THE FIRST RESOURCES REQUESTED TO BE SHUT OFF. 
          UH, SINCE BLOOM'S CARBON INTENSITY IS LOWER THAN THE DISPLACED ALTERNATIVES, THE NET IMPACT IS MEASURABLE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS. 
          IN ADDITION, BLOOM ENERGY FUEL CELLS PROVIDE OPTIMAL AIR QUALITY BENEFITS BECAUSE IT PRODUCES VIRTUALLY NO LOCAL AIR POLLUTION POLLUTANTS LIKE SULFUR OXIDES, NITROGEN OXIDES, AND PARTI, UH, PARTICULATE MATTER. 
          UH, NUM I THINK WE'VE PROBABLY PRETTY MUCH GONE OVER NUM WHAT'S IN NUMBER SEVEN. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS THEY WOULD ASK ON NUMBER SEVEN? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER, IS THERE A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY THAT MONITORS THIS TYPE OF FACILITY TO ENSURE THAT EMISSIONS ARE AS STATED? UH, YES. 
          EVERY FIVE YEARS OUR TECHNOLOGY IS RECERTIFIED BY THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD. 
          THAT CERTIFICATION IS BASED ON SOURCE TEST RESULTS THAT CONFIRM EMISSIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH, UH, DG CERTIFICATION LIMITS. 
          AND THE EMISSION FACTORS CONTAIN IN BLOOM'S VARIOUS SPEC SHEETS. 
          THE AIR POLLUTANT EMISSIONS FROM A FUEL CELL ARE SUCH THAT THE STATE OF NEW YORK EXEMPTS THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS FROM AIR PERMITTING. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          I HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT KRISTEN AND, UM, AND BRIAN, AND THE QUESTION IS, DID YOU SEEK A PERMIT OR A PERMIT WAIVER FROM THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION WITH REGARD TO THE DOWNSTATE MEDICAL CENTER OR WITH REGARD TO THE KINGS COUNTY HOSPITAL? NO, THE ANSWER IS YES. 
          I'VE READ 'EM. 
          WELL, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. 
          BRIAN, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? I DON'T, WAIT, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT ONE TIME, ONE MORE TIME PLEASE? DID, DID, DID BLOOM ENERGY SEEK A PERMIT OR A WAIVER OF A PERMIT MM-HMM. 
           OR A DETERMINATION THAT NO PERMIT WAS REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH THE DOWNSTATE MEDICAL CENTER WHERE YOU HAVE A FACILITY OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE KINGS COUNTY HOSPITAL WHERE YOU HAVE A, A, A FUEL CELL FACILITY? AND TO GIVE YOU A HINT, I READ THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN THAT, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT, THAT'S A, A PROJECT I DIDN'T PERSONALLY WORK ON. 
          UM, AND IT'S SEVERAL YEARS OLD, SO, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT THE DETAILS OF THAT FILING NO, WHAT I WANT, THE REASON I DON'T, KRISTEN REALLY WANT THE DETAILS 'CAUSE I READ 'EM. 
          UM, THE, WHAT I AM INTERESTED 
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IN IS THE LAST SENTENCE, THE DEFINITIVE LAST SENTENCE THAT SAYS THE STATE OF NEW YORK EXEMPTS THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS FROM AIR PER PERMITTING. 
          AND THE KIND OF NON-ALIGNMENT THAT WAS GOING THROUGH IN MY HEAD WAS IF NEW YORK STATE EXEMPTS THESE PROJECTS ABIO FROM EVEN SEEKING A PERMIT, WHY ARE THESE LONG? WHY ARE THESE LONG, UH, DECISIONS COMING OUT OF THE AIR POLLUTION PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION? SOME, SOME OF WHICH ARE OVER 50 PAGES IF THERE'S JUST AN EXEMPTION. 
          THIS WAS UNDER THE THRESHOLD OF THIS PROJECT. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GUESS? I'M SORRY, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED. 
          WHAT, WHAT YOUR ACTUAL QUESTION IS. 
          MY QUESTION, UH, MY QUESTION IS IF MM-HMM. 
          , THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS, FUEL CELL PROJECTS, AIR THE CENTER SAYS THE AIR POLLUTANT EMISSIONS FROM A FUEL CELL PROJECT MM-HMM. 
           OR TO THE STATE OF NEW YORK EXEMPT THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS FROM AIR PERMITTING. 
          THERE ARE TWO FUEL CELL PROJECTS THAT I READ DECISIONS ON. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M NOT AWARE OF THOSE, MIKE, SO I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. 
          SO, SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, I GUESS NONE OF US KNOW THE ANSWER. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, UH, IS, IS A, IS A FILING REQUIRED WITH THE STATE OF NEW YORK AIR POLLUTION, UM, THE PART AIR POLLUTION PART OF, UH, THE D E C AARON, DO YOU KNOW, BY ANY CHANCE? I PRESUMABLY WE'VE NEVER HAD ONE OF THESE BEFORE, SO PRESUMABLY YOU DON'T. 
          I DO NOT. 
          SORRY. 
          NO, I MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S NOT TO SAY ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, MAYBE A DECADE, I MEAN, BLOOM STARTED BUILDING IN NEW YORK STATE, NEW YORK CITY, NEW YORK CITY PARTICULARLY. 
          UM, THEY THERE WHO'S TO SAY THAT THERE ISN'T A LEARNING CURVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, THERE'S PLENTY OF, UM, MUNICIPALITIES, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WITHIN NEW YORK CITY THAT WE GO THROUGH THAT WE FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO DO DUE DILIGENCE TO SEE WHAT'S REQUIRED. 
          AND THAT'S HOW WE FIND OUT IF WE'RE EXEMPT FROM IT, IF THERE'S A VARIANCE REQUIRED, IF IT'S, IF WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, WHO'S TO SAY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN WITH THAT PROJECT? I MEAN, THAT'S A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT PROJECT MANAGER. 
          I MEAN, BUT SINCE THEN, UM, AND, AND AS LONG AS MY EMPLOYMENT AND WORKING IN NEW YORK, PARTICULARLY IN NEW YORK CITY, I HAVEN'T HAD TO FILE ANYTHING LIKE THAT SINCE. 
          BUT I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR, THAT'S A FAIR ANSWER. 
          SAYING THAT, OF COURSE, WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND GO THROUGH EACH MUNICIPALITY AND, AND ITS FUTURE PROJECTS ROLLS ALONG AND WE REALIZE THOSE REQUIREMENTS AREN'T NEEDED. 
          WE DON'T FILE EVERY TIME THEN, LIKE, DOESN'T THIS SOUND LIKE IT'S A STATE REQUIREMENT? AND I GUESS CONSIDERING THAT WOULD BE A STATE SURE, YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          IT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT UP, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN TODAY'S PAPER AND OBVIOUSLY A MUCH LARGER FACILITY WHERE THE STATE, UM, PERMIT ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION REJECTED THE PROJECT BECAUSE THEY WERE SAYING WE'RE STILL USING FOSSIL FUEL. 
          NOW, IT WAS A MUCH BIGGER PROJECT GRANTED THAN THIS, BUT I MEAN, IT DOES SEEM TO BE THAT THE STATE HAS A VERY STRONG MOVEMENT AGAINST ANY FOSSIL FUEL PRODUCTION OF ADDITIONAL ENERGY. 
          THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING TO MOVE ALL ENERGY FROM FOSSIL FUEL. 
          IF YOU, IF YOU RECALL, THOSE PROJECTS WERE PRETTY LARGE GAS PLANTS WITH EXPECTED LIFE EXPECTANCIES OVER 50 YEARS AS WELL. 
          THIS IS A 10 YEAR PROJECT. 
          SO MIKE MENTIONED THE C L C P A EARLIER, UM, THAT CALLS FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2040. 
          UM, THIS PROJECT IS A, A 10 YEAR, HAS A 10 YEAR PROJECT LIFE, WHICH WOULD BE WELL IN CONFORMANCE OF THAT. 
          WELL, ONE OF THE, WELL, OKAY. 
          UM, THAT, THAT WAS A FAIR QUESTION, MIKE. 
          I, AND WE CAN FIND OUT ANSWERS TO THAT, WHY WE GOT PERMITS FOR THAT AND NOT THIS, IF THAT'S GOOD QUESTION. 
          THERE'S A ONE IS THE LAW COULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED, BRIAN. 
          THEY COULD HAVE CHANGED. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY, IT, THESE THINGS WERE, YOU KNOW, WERE NOT, LAST YEAR THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE, SEVEN YEARS OLD. 
          THE LAW COULD HAVE CHANGED. 
          UH, AND SECONDLY, IT'S ALSO, THEY MAY HAVE HAD A LIMIT. 
          'CAUSE THOSE APPEAR TO BE MUCH BIGGER PROJECTS. 
          UH, DOWNSTATE MEDICAL CENTER AND KINGS COUNTY HOSPITAL ARE MUCH BIGGER, UH, THAN THIS. 
          SO IT COULD BE THAT THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A, A SIZE LIMIT THAT IF YOU OVERSIZE, YOU HAVE TO SEEK A PERMIT AND YOU LOWER SIZE, YOU DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I DID READ THE SENTENCE AND I DID, WAS JUST CURIOUS. 
          WELL, ANY JURISDICTION, UM, SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, IN EACH JURISDICTION, ESPECIALLY IN NEW YORK CITY, I MEAN, US BUILDING FEW CELLS IN NEW YORK CITY, WE WOUND UP CHANGING THE NEW YORK CITY BUILDING CODE TO, TO OUR SYSTEMS WENT THROUGH LIKE, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS, UM, UH, A TECHNICAL DEPARTMENT, O T C R IN NEW YORK CITY, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, COM MAKE SURE THESE PROJECTS COMPLY WITH THE NEW YORK CITY FUEL GAS CODE AND, AND NEW YORK STATE, UH, YOU KNOW, GAS CODE AS WELL AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
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AND JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, I MEAN, WE WENT BLINDLY INTO THAT TO REVIEW THAT AND WENT THROUGH THE SAME THOROUGH PROCESS. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'VE MET WITH THE NEW YORK CITY, UM, TECHNICAL REVIEW BOARD, AND THEY WOUND UP BEING IN FAVOR OF THESE SYSTEMS AND CHANGING THE BUILDING CODE TO REFLECT THAT. 
          SO WE DO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, AND THAT JUST HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO. 
          SO YEAH, AS WE COME INTO JU, MY POINT OF SAYING THAT IS WE COME INTO CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS AND OUR PROJECTS GET REVIEWED AND, AND WE GO THROUGH THESE, UM, VERY THOROUGH TECHNICAL REVIEWS. 
          YOU KNOW, THINGS GET AMENDED, THINGS CHANGE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BECOME MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE TECHNOLOGY. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN. 
          SO I'M ASSUMING SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAD HAPPENED BETWEEN THE INSTALLATION OF, AND THE FILING OF DOWNSTATE PROJECTS TO NOW THAT'S, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION THOUGH. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN FIND OUT THE ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER NINE, HAS THE APPLICANT RECEIVED, UH, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I, I APOLOGIZE. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER EIGHT? LET'S SEE, MEMBERS NUMBER NINE. 
          HAS THE APPLICANT RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM CON ED FOR THIS NEW APPLICATION? ANSWER? YES. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUICKEST ONE SO FAR TONIGHT, I THINK PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          HOW, HOW OFTEN DO SHUTDOWNS OCCUR? UH, KRISTEN, UM, IDEALLY NEVER SINCE THE ENERGY SERVER RUNS, UH, YOU KNOW, 24 HOURS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR. 
          UM, AND IT CAN BE SERVICED WHILE IT'S ONLINE AND OR AT A REDUCED OUTPUT. 
          UM, IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT A SHUTDOWN IS REQUIRED, THE ENERGY SERVER HAS INTERNAL PROCESS AND SAFETY CONTROL FEATURES, WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED TO SAFELY MONITOR AND SHUT ITSELF DOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING, UM, ANY, ANY QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER 10? OKAY. 
          NUMBER 11. 
          WHAT SPECIAL P P E AND TRAINING IS REQUIRED FOR FIREFIGHTERS? CHRISTIAN? UM, NO, WE, WE MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, BRIEFLY TOO. 
          UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NO SPECIAL P P E. 
          UM, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS. 
          AGAIN, WE ENCOURAGE WALKTHROUGHS, UM, AND PROVIDE TOURS FOR PROVIDE FIREFIGHTER TRAINING THAT CAN OCCUR NEAR IN THE END OF CONSTRUCTION OF INSTALLATION OR IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER. 
          THE WELCOME, THE WELCOME SOUNDS PRETTY LOOSEY GOOSEY TO ME. 
          YOU DON'T REQUIRE IT. 
          UM, THE FIRE, I MEAN, WE, WE, WE OUT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND ENCOURAGE IT FOR SURE, BUT USUALLY THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WE GO INTO CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T REQUIRE IT. 
          WE GIVE THEM BASIC INFORMATION. 
          UM, OUR EMERGENCY, UM, FIRE PREVENTION AND PLANNING AND, UM, MATERIALS. 
          THEY READ THROUGH IT AND THEY USUALLY APPROVE THAT IF, BUT WE ENCOURAGE WALKTHROUGHS. 
          A LOT OF PLACES, UM, DON'T REQUIRE IT. 
          I'M SAYING , YOU GUYS DON'T REQUIRE IT EITHER. 
          'CAUSE YOU DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. 
          I GUESS. 
          I MEAN, I YOU SAID YOU ENCOURAGE IT. 
          THAT'S THE WORD YOU USED. 
          I, THAT WAS A, I I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING WORD. 
          A CHOICE OF WORDS. 
          RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S BY, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGED BECAUSE WE WANT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO BE FA WE DO, WE DO THAT DUE DILIGENCE WAY BEFORE EVEN, UM, INSTALLING THE PROJECTS. 
          WE REACH OUT TO, UH, LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THE INSTALLATION. 
          IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO FILE. 
          SOMETIMES CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS, UM, SOME AND OUT IN LONG ISLAND REQUIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT APPROVAL. 
          UM, IT, IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE JURISDICTION. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY WE, WE ENCOURAGE OR, OR PUSH IT ALONG WAY BEFORE WE EVEN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE INSTALLING IN A CERTAIN JURISDICTION A LOT. 
          AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THE TIMES FIRE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, WITH IT. 
          THEY READ THROUGH OUR MATERIALS, THEY GIVE US A BLESSING AND SIGN US OFF. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY ACCEPT OUR INVITATION TO COME AND CHECK OUT THE SITE, AT THE END OF IT, WE GIVE THEM THE TOUR. 
          AND WE DID, UH, AGAIN, WE DID, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE EQUINOX SITE, WE'VE ALREADY, WE MET WITH THE, UM, DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF AND THAT, UM, JURISDICTION, UM, HE WAS WELL AWARE OF IT BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, INSTALLED THE SYSTEMS. WE SCHEDULED IT ONCE THE INSTALLATION WAS IN. 
          AND, UM, THAT WAS THE PROCEDURE THERE. 
          AARON, DO YOU WANNA GIVE A, A, A SHORT REPORT ON, UM, UH, THE REFERRAL OF THIS TO THE, UH, TO THE, I DON'T KNOW WHICH FIRE DISTRICT IT IS, BUT ONE OF THE FIRE DISTRICT? WELL, AND WELL, I, I'LL PASS IT ON. 
          AARON TOLD ME THAT THIS WAS REFERRED TO, UH, THE, THE, THE APPROPRIATE FIRE DISTRICT. 
          AND, UH, THEY, UH, DIDN'T OH, AARON'S BACK. 
          GO AHEAD, AARON. 
          I'M, I'M SORRY. 
          DO YOU WANNA GIVE A, UM, UM, 
          [01:45:01]
UH, A, YOU KNOW, AND TELL THE GOOP ABOUT THE REFERRAL THAT C D N C MADE OF, OF THIS PROJECT TO THE, TO THE FIRE DISTRICT AND WHAT THEY SAID? YES, AND I, AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET THAT MEMO OUT. 
          UM, I GOT PULLED OUT INTO THE FIELD AND I, AND I APOLOGIZE. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          UH, AS YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO SEND AS MUCH AS I COULD FROM MY PHONE, BUT, UM, WHEN THE PROJECT CAME IN TO, UH, OUR DEPARTMENT AND WAS FORMALLY FILED, IN ADDITION TO CIRCULATING TO ALL THE VARIOUS TOWN DEPARTMENTS LIKE BUILDING AND ENGINEERING AND LEGAL AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE ALSO SENT IT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT SERVES THE SITE. 
          AND THEY DID WRITE BACK, UM, THAT THEY HAD NO FURTHER THAT THEY WERE REVIEWED. 
          THE MATERIALS HAD NO FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OR CONCERNS. 
          SO THAT, THAT DID COME BACK. 
          NOW ANY ELEMENT, IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD TO A SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THE PLANNING BOARD CAN CERTAINLY ISSUE CONDITIONS RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST AN OFFER TO MEET, BUT THAT THERE BE A MEETING SET UP BETWEEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE APPLICANT TO GO OVER CERTAIN SAFETY PROTOCOLS AND, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY RESPONSE, UM, TYPE MATTERS. 
          SO THAT CAN CERTAINLY BE AN ELEMENT OF ANY SITE PLAN DECISION. 
          SO, SO, SO THE, THE, THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED MATERIALS BUT DID NOT ACTUALLY MEET WITH THE APPLICANT. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING, AARON? NOT YET. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY MET, NOR DID THEY REQUEST TO MEET AT THIS TIME. 
          BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, HAD REPRESENTED TO US THAT THEY OFFERED AND MET WITH THE OTHER CHIEF IN THE OTHER DISTRICT WHEN THEY DID THE EQUINOX SITE UP ON FIELDSTONE. 
          WHICH, WHICH DISTRICT IS THIS IN? THIS IS IN THE IB INTERMEDIATE BUSINESS DISTRICT? NO, WHICH FIRE DISTRICT? OH, THE FIRE DISTRICT. 
          UM, FAIRVIEW. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S FAIRVIEW. 
          YEAH. 
          THANKS MATT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WAS, I HAVE MY, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH MY NOTES. 
          THERE'S ONE QUESTION TERRY ASKED EARLIER. 
          UM, AND IT WAS ABOUT SHOWING THE RELATION OF THIS PROPERTY TO OTHER SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW ONE OF THE, UH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU FIND THAT AGAIN, KRISTEN, BUT NOT JUST THE STREET VIEW, BUT MAYBE GO OUT LIKE A QUARTER OF A MILE OR SOMETHING? SURE. 
          AND, AND WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS SEE IF I CAN PULL IT UP ON G I S AND THEN SHARE SCREEN, BUT I MIGHT NEED A COUPLE OF MINUTES. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY A BETTER VIEW TOO. 
          OKAY, SO WE'RE ON RUSSELL HEADING TOWARDS FULTON. 
          YOU MEAN YOU YOU WANT ME TO MOVE STRAIGHT AHEAD? NO, I THINK THE OTHER WAY, UH, HE WANTS TO SEE AREA, I THINK DOWN THIS ROAD. 
          TERRY, WHY DON'T YOU, UH, GUIDE KRISTEN IS WHAT YOU WELL, I THINK WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, I THINK AARON'S TRYING TO GET IT DOWN OUR G P S MAP IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT GOOGLE MAP AND IT WOULD BRING UP THE, THE HOUSES KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT'S SURROUNDING IT. 
          IT WOULD SHRINK, IT WOULD SHRINK THIS SITE DOWN TO LIKE AN INCH OR SOMETHING AND THEN WE COULD LOOK AT IT, UM, WHAT SURROUNDS IT IN TERMS OF BUILDINGS, HOW CLOSE THEY ARE AND WHATNOT. 
          CAN I ASK A LOCATION QUESTION, LIKE WHERE IT WOULD BE RELATIVE TO THAT BLUE VAN THAT'S IN THE STREET VIEW, JUST SO WE CAN GET A BETTER SENSE OF EXACTLY WHERE THE UNIT WILL BE IN THIS, UH, IN THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE. 
          SO WHERE THE BROADB VAN IS, IS PART OF WHERE WE BE ALONG THIS, RIGHT ALONG THIS, UH, SECTION RIGHT HERE. 
          SO THAT'LL BE THE NEW VIEW FOR THE HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET. 
          WELL, WELL, NO, BUT, BUT REMEMBER IF IT GOES DOWN THERE AND THE SCREENINGS DOWN THERE, REMEMBER THAT, UH, AARON HAS SAID THAT THAT'S KIND OF A, A CLIFF AND THERE'S A RETAINING WALL THERE, SO IT'S NOT CLEAR. 
          WELL, HE SAID THERE WON'T BE SCREENING THERE BECAUSE THE NOISE DECIBEL ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THOSE HOUSES ARE IS LOW ENOUGH. 
          RIGHT. 
          DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY? NO, THERE HAS TO BE SCREENING BECAUSE THEY, UH, IT IS NOT THE CLOSEST HOUSE, UH, DOES NOT MEET THE NOISE LEVEL. 
          THERE DOES HAVE TO BE SCREENING THERE, BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR WHERE THE SCREENING WOULD ONLY BE LIKE WHERE THE BLUE TRUCK IS OR WHETHER IT LONG PARALLEL TO THE FENCE. 
          AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          AARON OR KRISTEN WANNA WEIGH IN ON THAT. 
          I THOUGHT WE SAID THE SCREENING WAS JUST GONNA BE ON THE WEST SIDE. 
          ULTIMATELY THAT, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AS 
          [01:50:01]
WELL. 
          I GUESS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IS WHAT WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO CLARIFY AS FAR AS THAT ACOUSTICAL MATERIAL BECAUSE THAT, THAT SCREENING MATERIAL, UM, IS FOR THE SOUND ATTENUATION AS FAR AS SCREENING ALONG THIS AREA. 
          UM, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT WE WILL GET BACK TO MIKE WITH ABOUT, WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE SCREENING ON THE WEST SIDE, WHAT THE VIEW IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT? SORRY, EVERYONE. 
          I, I GOT BOUNCED OFF THE MEETING, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR FIRST QUESTION. 
          'CAUSE UH, MY COMPUTER WAS INDICATING THAT IT WAS ABOUT TO DIE. 
          SO IT'S LOOKING FOR A POWER CORD. 
          UM, I WILL GET THE G I S UP MOMENTARILY, SO I HAVE THE G I S READY TO GO IF, UH, YOU'D LIKE ME TO SHARE IT? YEAH, I'LL, I GOT IT. 
          MATT. 
          YOU GOT IT? OKAY. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          LET'S SEE HERE. 
          CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? THERE YOU GO. 
          YES. 
          SO THIS IS THE, THIS, THIS IS, IT'S THIS PROPERTY HERE. 
          THIS IS THE ALTESE BUILDING? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AS I MENTIONED, IB DISTRICT WITH THE M 10 DISTRICT NEXT DOOR. 
          AND THEN IF WE ZOOM OUT A BIT, I DIDN'T MEAN TO ZOOM OUT THAT MUCH. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          I CAN CHANGE IT. 
          BEAR WITH ME. 
          SO YOU SEE I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHITE PLAINS AND THIS, ALL THIS OVER HERE IS THE CITY. 
          SO THIS IS THE TOWN CITY LINE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE ALTESE BUILDING WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT IT IS ROUGHLY IN THIS AREA. 
          YEP. 
          AND TERRY, YOU WANT TO ASK, UH, UH, AARON, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU GO BACK? HOW FAR ARE WE FROM THE JUNIPER HILL SCHOOL? CAN YOU GO BACK THAT FAR? UH, SO, SO YEAH, LET'S ZOOM OUT A BIT SO I CAN TAKE A MEASUREMENT. 
          CAN YOU, CAN YOU CLOSE YOUR LIST OF, UM, YEAH, CAN CLOSE THAT. 
          SO, SO THAT'S, I BELIEVE THIS IS ALL THOSE SHEETS UP THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO COMING UP IN THIS DIRECTION UP RUSSELL IS RESIDENTIAL. 
          HERE'S THE SCHOOL BUILDING. 
          WE CAN, LET'S TAKE A MEASUREMENT. 
          TERRY ASKED FOR IT. 
          SO FROM THE YOU DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          , WHAT'S THE SCHOOL? SO APPROXIMATELY 1800 FEET TO THE BUILDING, TO THE, CAN YOU SEE THAT? CAN YOU SEE THAT? I'M TAKING THE MEASUREMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S EXCELLENT. 
          SO THE SCHOOL IS RELATIVELY CLOSE BY, IT'S AQUAR A QUARTER OF A MILE, ROUGHLY, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          GOT A THIRD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND DO YOU KNOW, CAN YOU TELL FROM THE TOPOGRAPHY, UH, AARON, UH, ARE THESE RESIDENCES THAT ARE KIND OF ON THE TOP OF THE SCREEN AND TO THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN, UH, FROM THE PROPOSED FACILITY, ARE THEY AT A HIGHER ELEVATION LEVEL OR A LOWER LEVEL, LOWER ELEVATION LEVEL, OR THE SAME ELEVATION LEVEL? UM, THE ELEVATION IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA IS RELATIVELY LEVEL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, RUSSELL STREET, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, I'M GONNA SAY ROUGHLY ABOUT MAYBE IN THIS AREA, IT STARTS TO CLIMB UP OH, QUITE A BIT. 
          SO AT THE FURTHER YOU GO TO THE LEFT OR THE WEST, THE HIGHER THE ELEVATION, UM, FURTHERMORE GOING IN THIS DIRECTION TOWARDS MONTANA PLACE. 
          YEP. 
          UM, THERE'S LIKE A ROCK FACE HERE AND THESE HOUSES ARE, AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD UP ABOVE, UM, IN THE, UM, THE CHELSEA PARK DEVELOPMENT ARE AT A HIGHER ELEVATION. 
          UH, THE ONLY LOWER ELEVATION, UH, NOT MUCH IS REALLY AT A LOWER ELEVATION. 
          I'D SAY ALL THIS IN THE IMMEDIATE 
          [01:55:01]
AREA IS ROUGHLY AT THE SAME ELEVATION AND AS YOU GO THIS WAY, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL, SO IT WOULD BE EITHER AT OR HIGHER ELEVATION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BRIAN, UH, DOES BLOOM HAVE ANY INFO, ANY STATISTICS ON WHAT HAPPENS TO THE, UH, C O TWO EMISSIONS IN TERMS OF, UH, GOING INTO THE ATMOSPHERE? UM, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY? UH, I DID IF THAT WAS IN SOME MATERIALS. 
          I, I, YEAH. 
          HOW IS IT DISPERSED? HOW QUICKLY DOES IT DISPERSE AWAY FROM THE SITE? AND, AND OH, LIKE, LIKE HOW, HOW FAST IS IT GO INTO THE AIR, IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YEAH. 
          GO AWAY FROM THE SITE AND, AND WHAT AREAS, I MEAN, DOES IT JUST GO STRAIGHT UP OR DOES IT SPREAD OUT? DOES BLOOM HAVE ANY, UH, I DIDN'T SEE IT. 
          I, I, I CONFESS I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT IN, IN THE MATERIALS I READ. 
          I BELIEVE WE DO. 
          AND, UH, IF IT'S OKAY, WE CAN ADD THAT AS A FOLLOW UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THE, THE SCHOOL BEING SO CLOSE, THESE CHILDREN, UM, BUST THEY WALK, DO WE KNOW? I KNOW THEY'RE BUSED. 
          THEY ARE EVEN, EVEN WITHIN A MILE THEY'RE BUSED. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE, PRETTY MUCH ALL THE KIDS IN GREENBURG CENTRAL GET BUSED. 
          UM, THERE ARE ARE FEW EXCEPTIONS. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE YEAH, LY YOU DON'T DO THAT NORTHLY, RIGHT? I MEAN, I KNOW GREENBERG CENTRAL HAS THIS PROBLEM WHERE THE KIDS COULD CONCEIVABLY WALK TO SCHOOL. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY HAVE TO CROSS SOME, SOME MEGA ROAD RIVER GET KILLED. 
          SO THEY LAND UP GETTING PUT ON A BUS. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW LIKE, THANKS TARA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE DISTANCE IS FURTHER FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          SO SOME OF THE, AND THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS I KNOW DO END UP LIKE FROM MORE NEIGHBORHOOD WALKING, BUT MOST OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS GET BUSED. 
          WELL, WHAT IS, SO I THINK, I MEAN, TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT, UM, UH, 'CAUSE I REMEMBER THIS WAS KIND OF, UH, SOMETHING THAT AARON HAD PASSED ALONG. 
          WE, UM, WE WERE KIND OF, UH, WONDERING IF THIS WAS CONFUSING, YOU KNOW, CARBON DIOXIDE, C O TWO, WITH, UH, A CONCERN ABOUT CARBON MONOXIDE. 
          UM, AND I, YOU KNOW, JUST TO ELABORATE THAT IF THAT'S THE CASE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, C O TWO, WHICH IS A GREENHOUSE GAS YEAH. 
          UM, AIR WITH AIR POLLUTION IN THE IMMEDIATE ENVIRONMENT THAT DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS YOU. 
          YEP. 
          THERE OTHER, YOU KNOW, PARTICULATES AS YOU MENTIONED, WHICH THAN IF IT WAS A COAL PLAN. 
          YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT AND YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT AND KIND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DOES, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT JUNIPER HILL, IS IT A HIGH SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL? IT'S IN ELEMENTARY. 
          ELEMENTARY, OKAY. 
          UH, THE, UH, KRISTEN, THE ANSWER IS NO. 
          WE, WE, WE, WE TAKE YOUR WORD. 
          THERE'S NO NOX. 
          OKAY. 
          TAKING THAT AS A GIVEN. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THERE'S, DOES BLOOM HAVE ANY VIEWS ON WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THIS TECHNOLOGY, UH, IS CONSISTENT WITH OR IN OR NOT WITH THE CLIMATE ACT, NEW YORK STATE CLIMATE ACT OF 2019? SO, HEY, MIKE. 
          UM, SO THESE, THESE PROJECTS, AS YOU'VE SEEN, I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DO PROJECTS AS SHORT AS, AS FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS. 
          UM, THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, AS YOU SAW, IS 10 YEARS, WHICH DOES KEEP US IN, IN CONFORMANCE WITH THAT. 
          UM, WE'RE, WE ALSO HAVE HYDROGEN POWER FUEL CELLS AND, AND BIOGAS, UH, POWER FUEL CELLS AS WELL. 
          UM, WITH, WITH HYDROGEN, IT, IT'S ANOTHER ISSUE, BUT THE, THE ISSUE IS INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, BUT THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, IS YES. 
          UM, THE, THE ARTICLES THAT WERE REFERENCED EARLIER ABOUT THE, THE GAS PLANTS THAT WERE DENIED PERMITS, THOSE WERE VERY LARGE SCALE GAS PLANTS WITH, I THINK THERE WERE 50, I COULD BE WRONG IN THIS, BUT UPWARDS OF 50 YEAR LIFE EXPECTANCIES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THOSE, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN REASONABLE. 
          I MEAN, THE GOAL IS CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2040. 
          UM, SO I DON'T THINK THOSE WOULD'VE FIT. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE OF SPECIFICS OF IT. 
          THE TIMEFRAME, LIKE IF THEY COULD HAVE MADE IT WORK SHORTER, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO THAT. 
          BUT, UM, I BELIEVE WHAT THEY ASKED FOR WERE 50 YEAR PERMITS, I THINK. 
          BUT ANYWAYS, THE SHORT ANSWER IS OUR PROJECTS ARE SHORTER TERM. 
          UM, AND YES, THEY'RE IN CONFORMANCE WITH, WITH THE C C P. 
          WELL, THE, THE CLIMATE ACT, UH, YES, YOU'RE CORRECT THAT, UH, UH, NO FOSSIL FUELS BY 2040, BUT, UM MM-HMM. 
          , UM, BY 2030, WHICH IS NINE YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S 70% RENEWABLES. 
          YEAH. 
          70% RENEWABLES, THAT MEANS 30% FOSSIL. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF I, I'M NOT A BETTING PERSON. 
          IF I WAS A BETTING PERSON, I'M NOT SURE I WOULD BET THAT'S GOING TO BE 
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ACHIEVED. 
          BUT, UM, UM, UH, THAT IS THE GOAL. 
          MM-HMM. 
           OF 30% FOSSIL. 
          UM, UM, YOUR PROJECT DOESN'T MATERIALLY GO OUT BEYOND THAT. 
          IT'S, UH, IT'S ONE YEAR BEYOND IT. 
          UM, AND I NOTICED WHEN I READ THOSE THINGS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, THE AIR POLLUTION DIVISION OF THAT, UM, THOSE PERMITS RELATING TO KING, UH, HOS, KING CA, KING COUNTY HOSPITAL AND DOWNSTATE, UH, MEDICAL CENTER OR MM-HMM. 
           OR TERMINATIONS, THAT WHAT, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THEY WOULD DETERMINATE, BUT THEY HAD TIME PERIODS ON THEM. 
          LIKE ONE OF 'EM HAD A 10 YEAR TIME PERIOD ON IT. 
          I FORGET WHAT THE OTHER ONE HAD ON IT. 
          SO, UM, APPARENTLY PERMITS THAT ARE ISSUED BY THE AIR POLLUTION PART OF THE, UM, UH, NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, UH, UH, UH, HAVE TIME PERIODS ON IT. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE POSSIBILITY HERE, UH, IS TO PUT A TIME PERIOD ON, ON THESE PERMITS. 
          HAS THAT BEEN, HAS SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE EXPERIENCED BEFORE BRIAN OR KRISTEN? SO, UM, OH, KRISTEN, DID YOU WANNA GO AHEAD. 
          DID YOU WANNA, UM, NO, I MEAN, UH, THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT'S NOT, UM, A REQUIREMENT I'M FAMILIAR WITH. 
          I HAD TO HAVE DEALT WITH. 
          UM, BUT I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT REGARDING THE DOWNSTATE HOSPITAL, WHAT THAT RIGHT. 
          SO A DETERMINATION WAS, SO MIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT ON, ON THIS PROJECT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, PER YOUR, YOUR, FOR THE PAST QUESTION, I AM GONNA FIND OUT, UM, WHY WE GOT IT ON THOSE TWO, THOSE TWO PROJECTS AND GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. 
          'CAUSE THAT WAS, I, I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK IT'S AN, IT IS REALLY UP TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO DECIDE IF THAT'LL BE A REQUIREMENT OF THIS PROJECT. 
          UH, BUT, UH, OH, YOU'RE SAYING LIKE A TIME PERIOD FOR YOU, FROM YOU GUYS, YOU'RE SAYING FROM THE TOWN, I'M SORRY, THE TOWN, IF THERE WERE AN APPROVAL, IF THERE WERE AN APPROVAL, RIGHT, IT COULD BEEN SEEN, THERE BE A TIMED APPROVAL THAT SAYS UNDERSTOOD 15 YEARS, THE APPROVAL GOES AWAY BECAUSE RIGHT. 
          WE'RE NOW, UM, VIOLATING BASICALLY THE, UH, OBJECTIVES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO ELIMINATE FOSSIL FUEL. 
          AND AT THIS POINT, YOUR, YOUR MINIMAL IMPROVEMENT ON THE UTILITY ISN'T, ISN'T SUFFICIENT TO WARRANT CONTINUING TO HAVE, UH, FOSSIL FUEL PRODUCTION, THE MARGINAL MISSIONS. 
          YEP. 
          NO, I, I, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW. 
          UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING FROM, FROM THE TOWN, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DID HAVE A, AND I'LL SAVE IT FOR THE END. 
          I DID, I DID HAVE A FOLLOW UP, UM, REQUEST FROM, FROM YOU GUYS IF, BUT I CAN, I CAN WAIT TILL WE FINISH THOSE, UM, THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS, UH, OKAY. 
          WHAT, LET'S, LET'S GO AROUND, LET'S, LEMME JUST GO AROUND THE HORN AND SEE, UH, UH, TERRY, YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE? NO, UH, LIZ, ONE QUICK QUESTION. 
          WHAT, MAYBE THIS IS OBVIOUS TO EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT NOT ME BECAUSE I'M NEW. 
          WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO ALTICE? WHY ARE THEY LOOKING TO USE THIS SOURCE OF BLOOM'S ENERGY SOURCE? CONSISTENT, RELIABLE, CLEAN POWER. 
          IT PROBABLY ALSO, LIZ DOESN'T HAVE THE FLUCTUATIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE GRID, WHICH IS PROBABLY IMPORTANT I THINK FOR, UM, A DATA CENTER. 
          CORRECT. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY, DONNA? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, 'CAUSE I, THIS WAS A QUESTION THAT NANCY HAD ASKED ABOUT, ABOUT WHERE THEY HAVE OTHER FACILITIES AND I KNOW KRISTEN MENTIONED EQUINOX. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY, I LOOKED IT UP. 
          IT'S EQUINIX DATA CENTER, SO IT'S NOT A GYM LIKE WE THOUGHT IT WAS . 
          IT'S DATA CENTER. 
          THAT'S MY AP THAT'S MY APOLOGIES. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          BECAUSE WE DO, WE, OUR, OUR CLIENT IS EQUINOX AS WELL. 
          SO I, I APOLOGIZE. 
          UM, AND, AND I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT AS WELL BECAUSE IT IS THE OLD FORMER M C I BUILDING THAT WAS UP IN THAT NECK OF THE WOODS IN TOWN. 
          I SEE LAUREN NODDING HER HEAD. 
          UM, SO I'M SORRY I DIDN'T, I'M AN OLD M C I EMPLOYEE, THAT'S WHY  SOCOM, I GO WAY BACK TO ALL OF THAT , RIGHT? SO YOU REMEMBER, YOU KNOW THAT UP THAT NECK OF THE WOODS. 
          UM, AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T JUMP IN WITH THAT INFORMATION EARLIER. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          UH, NEXT ON MY LITTLE BOX ON THE ZOOM IS NANCY. 
          NANCY. 
          WELL, I'M WONDERING, WHEN YOU SWITCH FROM, WHEN YOU SWITCH TO BEING A MICROGRID, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? WHAT IS THAT LIKE? IT'S STAND, I MEAN, YOU THINK ABOUT STANDALONE, STANDALONE POWER. 
          WHAT DO YOU GET YOUR, WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR ENERGY FROM? FROM MICHAEL? GOOD. 
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UM, DIFFERENT, I MEAN, IN THIS CASE IT'S A NATURAL GAS FUEL CELL. 
          SO IT'D BE DIFFERENT. 
          DIFFERENT NATURAL GAS PROVIDERS. 
          NATURAL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , NANCY, WHAT ELSE? UM, BUT ISN'T THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW USING NATURAL GAS IN? YES. 
          SO HOW, YEAH, WE'RE TIED, WE'RE TIED INTO, WE'RE WE'RE TIED INTO AN EXISTING LINE. 
          SO A STANDALONE SYSTEM WILL REQUIRE A NEW LINE, MEANING THE GAS IS COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE OR OH, RIGHT. 
          IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE TYING INTO T'S EXISTING LINE. 
          SO LET'S SAY, UM, WE HAVE A STANDALONE MICROGRID SYSTEM. 
          A NEW SERVICE WOULD HAVE TO BE INSTALLED AND PROVIDED FOR THAT STANDALONE SYSTEM. 
          AND WE WOULDN'T BE AN ACCESSORY USE TO A BUILDING. 
          IT WOULD HAVE ITS OWN INDEPENDENT LINE. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU COULD GET THE CON ED APPROVAL, BECAUSE IF YOU HAD A NEW, A NEW THING WITH CON ED, GET IT. 
          YOU MIGHT NOT GET IT BECAUSE THEY ANNOUNCED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THEY WEREN'T. 
          THEY NEW GET IT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND NOW. 
          OKAY, NANCY. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ALFRED, YOU'RE NEXT ON MY BOX. 
          UH, NO QUESTIONS. 
          LAUREN, YOU'RE NEXT ON MY BOX. 
          YOU, YOU'RE MUTED. 
          LAUREN. 
          LAUREN, YOU'RE MUTED. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          SORRY. 
          HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 
          MY PHONE IS ACTING UP AS LAUREN IS, IS, UM, JUST GIVING US A MOMENT HERE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO ASK, SO I WAS OUT IN THE FIELD FOR THE LAST TWO HOURS OF THE, THE DAY, AND I, I WAS JUST LOOKING THROUGH MY PHONE AND I SAW THAT THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME THROUGH FOR ME I SAW FROM DONNA RELATED TO THE ZONING. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT CAME IN FROM MEMBERS DIRECTLY TO ME, IF THEY WEREN'T ANSWERED, YOU KNOW, I CAN STAY ON AFTER THE APPLICANT GETS OFF, OR IF YOU WANNA ASK ME NOW, I JUST, UM, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE ANSWERS YOU, YOU'VE ASKED FOR. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU AARON. 
          UH, L LAUREN, YOU I'M READY. 
          ARE YOU READY? OKAY, I'M READY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WAS ASKED, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, TO PUT TOGETHER SOME, UM, MARKET ANALYSIS, SOME L LAUREN ON, ON THIS APPLICATION. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? OH, NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          ON THIS APPLICATION. 
          OKAY. 
          DIDN'T BE NERVOUS ABOUT . 
          WERE WE SUPPOSED TO DO A MARKET ANALYSIS OR ? THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU? UM, YEAH, I WONDER WHY ALTICE IS NOT HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR NEED FOR THIS. 
          UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEA? UM, WE CAN ASK THEM TO PROVIDE A, A BRIEF, YOU KNOW, AN EXPLANATION TO THAT, I GUESS. 
          UM, I, I I CAN SAY THAT, UM, I CAN SAY THAT FROM THE TOWN STANDPOINT, WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY ASK THAT ALTICE, UM, BE IN ATTENDANCE FOR THE C A C MEETING. 
          WE HADN'T ASKED THAT ALLICE BE IN, UM, ATTENDANCE FOR THE PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS. 
          SO WE JUST FOLLOWED THE SAME SUIT. 
          BLOOM AND ITS REPRESENTATIVES HAVE MADE THE INITIAL PRESENTATIONS. 
          SO WE BASICALLY ASKED THOSE FOLKS TO COME AND, AND DID NOT ASK FOR ALTESE. 
          WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD ASKED BLOOM TO REACH OUT TO ALTICE TO SEE IF THEY WOULD JOIN ON AS A CO-APPLICANT TO THIS APPLICATION. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND PROPOSAL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UM, ALTICE IS AGREEABLE TO THAT. 
          THAT VERY WELL MAY HAVE COME INTO MY INBOX WHILE, WHILE I WAS OUT IN THE FIELD, BUT, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY A ARE AND THEY'RE GONNA SUBMIT A LETTER TO THAT EFFECT, ALSO INDICATING THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THE PROJECT, THEY AUTHORIZE BLOOM TO FILE AND, AND MAKE PRESENTATIONS ON THEIR BEHALF. 
          THEY'RE AWARE OF THE PLANS THAT WERE PROVIDED, THE REVISIONS MADE TO THE PLANS SINCE THE INITIAL SET OF PLANS WERE FILED, AND, UM, THAT THE, THAT THEY'RE AUTHORIZING, UH, BLOOM AND THAT THEY, UH, WILL SIGN ON AS A CO-APPLICANT AND, AND BE AWARE OF ANY CONDITIONS OF ANY POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, FUTURE PROJECT APPROVAL. 
          SO, BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. 
          THAT RIGHT? THAT, THAT JUST SAID THEY, THEY, NO, THEY RIGHT. 
          THAT LETTER WAS JUST REQUESTED 
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BY THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          SO WE DREW SOMETHING UP FOR OWNERSHIP, THEY'RE REVIEWING IT AND THEY'LL BE SENDING THAT OVER. 
          AND JUST TO PROVIDE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE  I'M SORRY, MAY I, MAY I ASK ANOTHER, UM, JUST ONE LAST, I'M GONNA MUTE AND SHUT MY VIDEO OFF AFTER THIS, I PROMISE. 
          UM, THE REASON I ASKED IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF  LEAVES SCREAMER, YOU SAID, OH, THIS STUFF GETS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S IT GO? WHAT HAPPENS? YES. 
          SO I CAN, IN, IN DELAWARE, UM, THERE'S A MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN DELAWARE. 
          WE TAKE THESE SERVERS AND AND REFURBISH THEM. 
          SO IF ALTICE WAS TO, IT'S NOT GONNA BE YEAH. 
          IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT VOLT, I DON'T, NO, I DON'T, I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE ALT, I MEAN, ALTICE SUPPLIES A VERY IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, INTERNET. 
          LIKE, YOU CAN'T HAVE KIDS WITH THAT INTERNET. 
          YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST KILL YOURSELF IF YOU HAVE KIDS AND YOU HAVE THE INTERNET. 
          RIGHT. 
          I GET IT. 
          AND ULTI TI IS A, IS A, A COMMON CUSTOMER OF OURS. 
          WE HAVE OTHER INSTALLATIONS, UM, AROUND, YOU KNOW, IN NEW JERSEY AND OTHER AREAS. 
          UM, SO I MEAN, THEY, YOU KNOW, THE, AN OBVIOUS ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION OF YOURS IS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, T'S POINT OF VIEW IS THAT THEY'RE IN DIRE NEED OF THIS, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY AND DEMAND. 
          SURE. 
          I COST THEM A LOT OF MONEY, NOT HAVE A BACKUP WHEN THEY GO DOWN. 
          RIGHT. 
          I GET IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE HAVE OTHER, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAVE OTHER SITES THAT ARE INSTALLED THAT HAVE BEEN RUNNING UP FOR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE ONE IN JERSEY'S, UM, I THINK OVER A YEAR NOW. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SEEMS LIKE THEY, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THE SERVICES OR WHATEVER THE, THE PERFORMANCE AS, AS WE ARE CONTINUING TO, YOU KNOW, UM, INSTALL MORE SERVICE THROUGHOUT OTHER, OTHER FACILITIES AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE DID TELL YOU THIS JUST HIT OUR INBOXES MM-HMM. 
           LESS THAN A WEEK AGO, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO MAKE A, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU SEE, WE'RE VERY THOROUGH AND, UM, WE DON'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW. 
          NO, WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S APPRECIATE IT IS, IT IS APPRECIATED. 
          WE, WE APPRECIATE AND WELCOME THE QUESTIONS. 
          IT'S, UH, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES INFORMATION DOES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF TECHNICAL STUFF HERE AND DATA AND STUFF CAN GET LOST IN TRANSLATION, AND WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ANSWER YOUR INFORMATION CORRECTLY AND PROPERLY. 
          SO, WELL, UH, I, I HAVE TWO THINGS TO SAY. 
          ONE IS, I STILL IN MY MIND FIND IT IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH C O TWO IS COMING OUT OF THIS FACILITY ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          UM, THAT'S THE FIRST. 
          THE SECOND IS, UM, SOME PEOPLE HAVE CHARACTERIZED, UH, CARBON DIOXIDE AS A COGEN, NOT A DIRECT CARCINOGEN, BUT A COGEN BECAUSE IT AFFECTS OTHER SUBSTANCES AND MAKES THEM IN THE BODY AND MAKES THEM GROUND LEVEL GREENHOUSE WHAT GROUND LEVEL GREENHOUSE. 
          UM, AND DOES MY QUESTION IS, UM, WHICH IS, UH, AGAIN, UH, WHETHER CHRISTIAN, WHETHER YOU AND BRIAN AGREE WITH THIS OR NOT, UH, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL IF IT HAS A GLOBAL IMPACT THAT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY HELPFUL. 
          BUT OUR CHARGE IS TO FOCUS ON AND TO REPORT TO THE OTHER BODIES OF THE TOWN ON THE IMPACT WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          AND, UM, THE AMOUNT OF C O TWO THAT COMES OUT ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          AND THE POTENTIAL ISSUE THAT IS A CO COSTEN COGEN, UM, IS SOMETHING I THINK WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON. 
          UH, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT YET 'CAUSE WE JUST SAID WE'RE JUST HAVING OUR FIRST MEETING. 
          UM, BUT IS THERE ANY, UM, INFORM, I DIDN'T SEE THIS ISSUE ADDRESSED IN, UH, THE MATERIALS I READ. 
          I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. 
          ARE THERE ANY MATERIALS THAT, UM, UM, BLOOM ENERGY HAS THAT ADDRESSES THE ISSUE OF, UH, UH, I MEAN, AND OF WHETHER, WHETHER OR NOT INTO WHAT, WHAT AMOUNT OF C O TWO WOULD MAKE IT A CO A CO CARC ENGINE? AND, UH, THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE PUTTING OUT IS NOT AT THAT LEVEL. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION AT ALL LIKE THAT? AND THAT KIND 
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OF RELATES TO ANOTHER ISSUE OF IS THERE ANY PARTI, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON YOU'RE NOT USING SCRUBBERS? SO IS, THIS IS KIND OF A GOOD SEGUE INTO MY REQUEST, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU. 
          SURE. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WELL, SO WE, WE HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY REPORT AND, YOU KNOW, I COULD DIRECT YOU TO THAT, BUT I THINK WHAT, WHAT MIGHT BE MORE, UH, PRUDENT BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION, AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA APOLOGIZE IF I CAME ACROSS AS RUDE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY. 
          IS WE'RE ALL TIRED AND IT'S LATE AT NIGHT. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          AND I, I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE VERY RESPONSIBLE AND I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMUNITY, UM, MINDED FOLKS WHO ARE LOOKING TO DO THE BEST THING FOR THE TOWN. 
          SO, UM, MY APOLOGIES IF I WAS AT ALL RUDE. 
          NOPE. 
          PASSION AS WELL. 
          BUT I ALL, I THINK WHAT MIGHT MAKE THE MOST SENSE IS, UM, WE DO HAVE A, A VP OF SUSTAINABILITY. 
          AND BASED ON THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD TONIGHT, I I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO BRING HIM ON IF YOU WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT. 
          YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A, WHAT, WHAT IS SUSTAINABILITY? A VICE PRESIDENT OF SUSTAINABILITY. 
          UM, AND I THINK HE, HE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP TONIGHT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY PROVIDED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT, THAT WE WERE, WE WERE GIVEN. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS AND, AND YOU NEED, YOU WANT ANSWERS TO THOSE BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION. 
          OH, GO AHEAD ERIN. 
          I'M SORRY, ERIN, I GUESS I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY IF, UM, IF WE COULD, OF COURSE IT WOULD. 
          OF COURSE IT WOULD. 
          YES. 
          WE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THE, THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL'S LOOKING AT ITS NEXT MEETING DATE. 
          SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 18TH. 
          THAT MAY CHANGE. 
          AND WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU INFORMED. 
          THERE'S, THERE, THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE, UH, UH, KRISTEN AND BRIAN THAT THE NEXT MEETING DATE, SO THAT WE CAN MEET OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO, IN TERMS OF REPORTING TO THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, THAT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT DATE EARLIER IN THE WEEK ON THE MONDAY OR TUESDAY OF THAT WEEK. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE NOVEMBER 15TH OR 16TH. 
          AND AARON SHOULD BE ABLE TO INFORM YOU TOMORROW ON WHAT WE'VE DONE. 
          WE HAVE TO DISCUSSED THIS. 
          THE CHAIR AND I HAVE DISCUSSED MOVING THE DATE, BUT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT WITH THE OTHER MEMBERS, SO WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER MEMBERS SAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, UH, YOU TENTATIVELY THINK ABOUT, YES, UH, YOU CAN MAKE ALL THE PRESENTATIONS YOU WANT. 
          WE WORKED  DELIGHTED TO, WE, WE WERE ASKING TO BE LIKE, 'CAUSE IT'S, WE HAVE HAD THIS PROJECT IN THE QUEUE AND IT, IT WAS THROUGH COVID AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO WE UNDERSTOOD, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, BUT WE HAVE HAD IT IN A WHILE, SO WE WERE TRYING TO GET IT DONE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. 
          BUT BASED ON THE QUESTIONS TONIGHT, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, UM, TO BRING HIM ON AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT BEFORE WE, WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          WE REALLY DO IS A QUESTION. 
          I THINK MIKE, WELL, NO, I, I, I SAW, UM, A BLOOM REPRESENTATIVE ON A YOUTUBE VIDEO THAT SAID THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO CAPTURE THE C O TWO. 
          HE USED THE PHRASE THIN MEMBRANE. 
          UH, I GOT THE IMPRESSION THIS, THE TECHNOLOGY EXISTS, SO I'M JUST QUESTION WHY AREN'T, WHY WOULDN'T YOU BE USING THAT TECHNOLOGY HERE THEN IF IT EXISTS? YOU KNOW, IF WE FEEL C O TWO AS AS YOU KNOW, CAN BE , AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT THAT TECHNOLOGY, UM, IS IN DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          IT'S, IT'S NOT USABLE YET, LIKE USABLE YET. 
          THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON IT IN DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE THAT OBVIOUSLY WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I WANNA EMPHASIZE YOU GUYS, UH, BRIAN AND KRISTEN, ONE THING THAT ERIN POINTED OUT, WE GOT ASKED EIGHT DAYS AGO BY THE PLANNING BOARD TO LOOK AT THIS. 
          THERE'S NO, NONE OF US KNEW ABOUT THIS PROJECT BEFORE IN THAT EIGHT DAYS. 
          WE REVIEWED THE STUFF THAT KRISTEN SUPPLIED TO AARON AND NANCY'S TAKING THE LEAD IN LOOKING AT THIS AND FORMULATING THE QUESTIONS. 
          AND THIS IS A NEW TECHNOLOGY FOR US. 
          AND UM, UH, WE HAVE A FOCUS, UH, THAT IS MAYBE A DIFFERENT FOCUS THAN OTHER BOARDS YOU'VE APPEARED BEFORE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A MATTER IF IT'S GOOD OR BAD, IT'S A MATTER OF, IT IS, THIS IS WHAT OUR STATUTORY FOCUS IS. 
          AND UM, THAT IS THE KIND OF THE ORIENTATION OF MANY OF THE QUESTIONS. 
          SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, UH, CHRISTIAN, UH, IS IMPORTANT, RIGHT? OF, AND NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT, BUT IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT IN 
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WHICH THIS PROJECT IS OPERATING. 
          UM, SO THAT WE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, AND KIND OF GET A HOLISTIC VIEW OF, OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          UM, AND UM, I GUESS WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST ASK CHRISTIAN, BRIAN, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SAY? UM, BEFORE I, I WANNA KNOW, UH, WE GOING TO HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IF HE WANTS TO DISCUSS THIS PROJECT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WANTS TO DISCUSS, IF HE WANTS TO DISCUSS THIS PROJECT. 
          I, YOU TWO ARE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO LISTEN TO HIS COMMENTS. 
          UH, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING, BRIAN AND CHRISTIAN, ANYTHING ELSE Y'ALL WANNA SAY? 'CAUSE WE DO WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY. 
          I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU. 
          I, I KNOW YOU GUYS GOT THIS PROJECT ON YOU QUICK AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT ON YOU QUICK AND I, I, I, THAT WAS, WE DID, WE WERE ASKING FOR IT TO BE MOVED ALONG, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO GET IT MOVED ALONG A LITTLE QUICKER. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, BUT I, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANNA BE THOROUGH AND, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT AND, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO, TO ANSWER 'EM. 
          AND I THINK HAVING OUR SUSTAINABILITY, UM, VP ON WILL WILL HELP THOSE. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, APOLOGIES FOR, FOR NOT COMING WITH HIM INITIALLY, UM, THAT, THAT'S, WE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OR NOT. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU BRIAN. 
          I CHRISTIAN, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY? UM, NO, AGAIN, I, UH, TO REITERATE WHAT BRIAN SAID, UM, WE APPRECIATE THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME GIVEN THAT YOU, UH, HAD, YOU KNOW, UH, REVIEWED THIS PROJECT, UM, AND PRESENTED US WITH SOME QUESTIONS EVEN PRIOR TO THAT. 
          UH, I, I MOST DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT 'CAUSE A LOT OF STUFF WE DID WANNA BE PREPARED. 
          AND YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THAT SAID, WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD, WE STILL HAD OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE COULDN'T ANSWER ON THE SPOT FOR YOU. 
          WE STILL HAVE TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU. 
          UM, AND WE WANNA MAKE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA DO THAT ACCURATELY FOR YOU. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME AND HEARING US OUT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED AND, AND MOVING FORWARD, HOPEFULLY IT'LL JUST BE A LOT MORE SMOOTHER GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THAT ACCURATELY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, WE APOLOGIZE, YOU KNOW, APOLOGIZE FOR ANY KIND OF MISCOMMUNICATION EARLIER WHILE WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE DATA AND THE INFORMATION. 
          UM, BUT IT'S A LOT, RIGHT? IT WAS LIKE, IT'S A LOT TO LIKE DIGEST. 
          SO, UM, WELL YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. 
          AND, AND WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU PLEASE ASK, UM, UM, THE MEMBER OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC THAT, UH, MR. BOW IT IS, IS HE STILL ON? NO, HE IS NOT. 
          HE, HE CHAT HE CHATTED WITH ME EARLIER PROBABLY, UH, ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AGO AND, AND SAID HE APPRECIATED BEING PERMITTED TO BE ON. 
          UM, HE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH THAT HE THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA BE ABLE TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION. 
          SO HE DID, HE DID TAKE OFF EARLY. 
          UM, OKAY, WELL WITH THAT, I THINK, UH, UH, BRIAN AND KRISTEN, WE, WE'LL SAY THANK YOU AND WE'LL SEE YOU HOPEFULLY IN, IN ABOUT THREE AND THAT, THAT THAT EARLY PART OF THAT WEEK BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD HAS THEIR DEC UH, MAKE HAS THEIR MEETING TO PRESUMABLY TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          THANK YOU, MIKE. 
          THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          TAKE CARE. 
          BYE. 
          THANK YOU, BYEBYE. 
          OKAY, SO, UM, OKAY, MAYBE WE CAN JUST WRAP THIS UP, MIKE. 
          IT'S REALLY LATE. 
          . 
          WELL, LAUREN, TAKE DAY. 
          WHAT YOU WANNA HEAR WHAT LAUREN HAS TO SAY? SHE'S WORKED SO HARD. 
          I I, I I DO, I DO. 
          BUT I THINK I WANNA WRAP THIS UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          UH, A COUPLE THINGS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. 
          I, I SENT EVERYTHING. 
          LAUREN, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 
          LAUREN. 
          UH, CAN WE, IS THAT, CAN WE MEET ON THE, THE, THE PLANNING BOARD IS MEETING ON NOVEMBER 17TH. 
          OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS THE THIRD. 
          OH GOSH. 
          AND CAN WE MEET ON THE 15TH SO THAT WE CAN THEN ISSUE OUR FINAL REPORT TO THEM ON THE, UH, THE 17TH AND MEET ON THE 15TH AND TRY TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE, YOU KNOW, ISSUE A FINAL REPORT THAT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK PRETTY HARD BETWEEN THE 15TH AND 16TH, BUT ISSUE A REPORT TO THEM SO THEY CAN HAVE IT ON THE 17TH. 
          THAT'S A MONDAY. 
          I CAN'T, I CAN'T DO THE 15TH. 
          THAT'S A MONDAY. 
          YES. 
          WOW. 
          HOLD ON. 
          UM, GEE, YEAH, I CAN DO IT. 
          ALFRED? YES. 
          WHAT TIME? UM,  SIX 30. 
          WE CAN DO SIX 30. 
          UH, NANCY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          LIZ, 
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YES. 
          ON YES. 
          DONNA, I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND, BUT IF WE MEET ON THE 17TH, WE'LL BE UP ALL NIGHT DOING THE REPORT TO GET IT THERE ON THE 18TH. 
          NO, THAT'S FINE. 
          YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE MEET ON THE, IF WE HAVE TO GET A REPORT BY THE 17TH OF THE PLANNING BOARD, NOW THE NEXT THING I'VE GOTTA SAY IS I, CAN I JUMP IN? I'M SORRY, MIKE. 
          SO, UM, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE CA'S REPORT, BASED ON THE QUESTION, THE VERY GOOD QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ALL ASKED, UM, IS GONNA BE NOT A ONE PARAGRAPH, YOU KNOW, BRIEF, UH, CONCISE REPORT. 
          I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DETAILED AND, UM, , I WOULD SAY  THE SOONER, I GUESS TO KEEP IT AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE, GIVEN THE HOUR, THE SOONER IT'S ABLE TO BE FORWARDED ALONG TO THE PLANNING BOARD SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, AARON, BUT WHY, WHY DO WE HAVE TO RUSH THIS THROUGH? WHY CAN'T THESE PEOPLE WAIT AROUND SO WE ALL THE TOWN FIGURE THIS OUT? WELL, I, AARON LEMME, WE'VE BEEN ASKED BY THE PLANNING BOARD TO GIVE THEM A REPORT FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY. 
          NOW THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL THAT ANYONE ON THIS ZOOM CALL IS GOING TO FEEL THAT WE HAVE OUR INTEGRITY, THAT MAINTAIN OUR INTEGRITY WITH REGARD TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE. 
          ALWAYS DONE TRYING, AS TERRY SAYS, TO UNDER, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW THE SCIENCE KNOWING IN HELL THAT WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UH, AND, AND, AND, AND AT THE LEVEL OF THE QUALITY LEVEL THAT WE TRY TO MAINTAIN. 
          UM, SO MY SUGGESTION IS THIS, WE ISSUE, 'CAUSE THE PLANNING BOARD DOES WANT SOMETHING FOR US, FROM US. 
          THEY REFERRED IT TO US. 
          THEY WANT SOMETHING FROM US ON WEDNESDAY. 
          MY SUGGESTION IS WE HAVE A VERY SHORT INTERIM REPORT, TWO PAGES, THREE PAGES THAT WE GIVE THEM. 
          AND NANCY'S TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS, NANCY AND I WILL DRAFT AND WE'LL SEND IT AROUND THEIR BODY SPOTTING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS BEING, UM, UM, IMPORTANT. 
          AND BY NO EXCLUSIVITY, BUT SOME SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH C O TWO IS COMING OUT EVERY DAY, WHERE IS IT GOING? IS IT GOING TO GO TOWARDS THE KIDS AT THIS SCHOOL? UH, IS THIS C O TWO COMING OUTTA THE LEVEL THAT MAKES IT A COGENIC? UM, UM, AND HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW AND HERE'S WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT WE DON'T KNOW AND HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE UNANSWERED, BUT AT LEAST SPOTLIGHTING SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'RE FOCUSING ON. 
          AND, UM, UM, UH, AND ANOTHER ISSUE FOR EXAMPLE, SHOULD, IF A PERMIT IS ISSUED, SHOULD IT BE ISSUED MORE THAN NINE YEARS BECAUSE THE ISSUING MORE NINE YEARS IS NOT EXACTLY CONSISTENT WITH NEW YORK STATE. 
          THE POLICY ON, ON, ON, ON, ON ON FOSSIL FUELS, YOU KNOW, UM, ISSUES LIKE THAT THAT WE COULD, WE'LL NANCY AND I CAN TRY TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING AND SEND IT AROUND AND WE'LL LABEL IT AN INTERIM REPORT AND TELL THEM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING, UH, WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT, WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT OF SUSTAINABILITY. 
          UM, AND UM, UM, AND WE'LL GIVE 'EM A FINAL REPORT BEFORE THEIR NEXT MEETING. 
          SO IS THAT, SORRY MIKE, I'D STILL LIKE THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION, LIKE, WHY ARE WE, BUT WE'RE GETTING CHOKED WITH THIS. 
          HOW COME, HOW COME? WHO WANTS TO ANSWER THAT? AARON OR TERRY? MIKE? YEAH, SO SORRY. 
          UM, WELL I GUESS I, THIS IS THE BEST WAY I CAN ANSWER IT. 
          UM, THE MATTER IS BEFORE BOTH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE ZONING BOARD, UM, THE APPLICANT'S MET WITH THE PLANNING BOARD NOW TWICE AND WILL BE MEETING WITH THE ZONING BOARD. 
          ITS SECOND TIME, UM, ON NOVEMBER 18TH. 
          THE ZONING BOARD HAS A VARIANCE APPLICATION BEFORE IT TO CITE THIS, WHAT HAS BEEN REFERRED TO AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO THE ONSITE ALTESE BUILDING IN THE FRONT YARD IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT, THE IB ZONING DISTRICT AND, AND OTHERS. 
          BUT, BUT 
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SITE. 
          YOU CANNOT PLACE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT YARD. 
          I'VE EXPLAINED THAT FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT. 
          THE NEXT PROCEDURAL STEP FOR THE PLANNING BOARD IS TO ISSUE ITS RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD ON THAT AREA VARIANCE. 
          THEN THE PROJECT WILL TRANSITION TO THE ZONING BOARD AND IF IT MOVES THROUGH THE ZONING BOARD AND THEY GET THEIR VARIANCE, THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD, COULD COME BACK FOR ONE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, COULD COME BACK FOR MULTIPLE PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS. 
          AT A MINIMUM IT WOULD BE COMING BACK FOR A PLANNING BOARD PUBLIC HEARING THAT THAT MUST HAPPEN. 
          SO I EXPLAINED THAT TO THE PLANNING BOARD CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR EARLIER TODAY AND ATTEMPTED TO STATE THAT WHILE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE C A C REVIEW THIS AND ISSUE ITS REPORT, THAT I'M NOT SURE, I WASN'T SURE THAT THE REPORT HAS ANY BEARING ON THE VARIANCE APPLICATION OR THE PLANNING BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION ON THE VARIANCE, WHICH IS THE NEXT PROCEDURAL STEP. 
          BUT THAT I WASN'T COMPLETELY CONVINCING, I GUESS  WOULD BE THE WORD. 
          UM, THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT WAS THAT WHILE, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD UNDERSTANDS THAT IT ASKS FOR A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A CHANCE THAT THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A REPORT ISSUED, UM, FOLLOWING THIS EVENING'S MEETING BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND WHATNOT. 
          UM, SO THEY, I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT I, I WASN'T CONVINCING WHAT THEY ULTIMATELY SAID WAS, 'CAUSE I, I GUESS I WAS SLIGHTLY CONVINCING BECAUSE THEY ULTIMATELY SAID, WELL, WE THINK ACTUALLY WE COULD PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS QUALIFIERS IN IT TO THE ZONING BOARD ABSENT SOMETHING FROM THE C A C. 
          SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME ADDITIONAL TIME GIVEN I I I MEAN IF AT THE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT OF THE PLANNING BOARD IT WAS, AND THIS WAS A, YOU KNOW, UH, ON THE 20TH, THE EXACTLY WHAT WAS STATED WAS WE'RE REFERRING THIS TO THE C A C, THEY MEET ON THE 28TH AND WE'RE GONNA GET A REPORT BEFORE THE THIRD. 
          NOW THAT'S AMBITIOUS. 
          UM, AND WE'VE CERTAINLY BOUGHT MORE TIME, IF YOU WILL. 
          NOW, IF YOU LOOK, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU'RE ANOTHER COUNSEL, UH, APPOINTED BY THE TOWN BOARD. 
          IF IT TURNS OUT THAT ON THE 15TH OR WHENEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MEET, THAT YOU'RE STILL NOT IN A POSITION TO GIVE YOUR FINAL REPORT, THEN THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT GOES BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          I SEEM TO THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE PLENTY OF TIME TO GET A REPORT FROM THE C A C AHEAD OF THE PLANNING BOARD, YOU KNOW, MAKING ANY SORT OF, UH, DECISION ON THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION. 
          BUT LET ME SAY THIS, I AM NOT A PLANNING BOARD MEMBER AND I DO NOT VOTE ON THE APPLICATION. 
          SO I, I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THAT . 
          THAT'S THE BEST INFORMATION I CAN GIVE YOU, MARGARET. 
          THANK YOU, AARON. 
          I MEAN, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD TERRY. 
          I SAID THANK YOU AARON. 
          I THINK, I THINK WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE. 
          I THINK, MIKE, YOU WANNA KEEP ROLLING THIS ALONG 'CAUSE WE'VE NOW BEEN AT THIS, IT'S REALLY GETTING LATE FOR EVERYBODY AND I KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE WORK TODAY. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, AND IF, IF, IF YOU SEE IT AND YOU DON'T LIKE IT, WE WON'T SEND IT NANCY, AND I'LL SEND OUT SOMETHING IN A COUPLE DAYS. 
          IT WILL BE A FRAMEWORK, MORE OF A FRAMEWORK OF THE ISSUES, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. 
          UM, IT WON'T, UM, IT, IT IT'LL BE A STEPPING STONE TO THE FINAL REPORT. 
          UH, AND WELL LET ME ASK YOU THE WELL, OKAY. 
          AND, AND THAT'S, WELL THAT'S WHAT, I GUESS THAT'S ALL. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL SEE HOW IT IS AND UH, AND SEE IF PEOPLE LIKE IT OR NOT. 
          AND, UH, WE'LL MEET ON MONDAY THE WHATEVER, NOVEMBER, MONDAY. 
          YEAH. 
          TERRY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING WE HADN'T REALLY DISCUSSED AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN, UM, MOVING, MOVING, MOVING THE POWER PLANT FROM WHEREVER IT IS TO GREENBURG, IS THAT THIS IS ONE INSTANCE, BUT WHAT IF WE START TO PERFORATE THESE, IF WE APPROVE ONE, 
          [02:35:01]
DO WE NOT SET A PRECEDENT WHERE WE COULD HAVE MULTIPLES OF THESE AND WHILE THE IMPACT OF ONE IN OUR AIR QUALITY MIGHT NOT BE THAT SIGNIFICANT, IF WE START TO GET MULTIPLES THAT'S EXACTLY, HAVE A DIFFERENT IMPACT? THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          I MEAN, IF IT'S CHEAPER, WHO'S NOT GONNA DO THIS? IF IT'S CHEAPER AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEY, AND THEY TOUT THIS THING THAT IT'S GREENER AND BLAH, BLAH BLAH, BUT IT'S NOT GREENER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET. 
          AND IT'S A FALSE COMPARISON IN MY MIND. 
          I I KNOW THEY DIDN'T LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S A FALSE COMPARISON TO COMPARE THIS TO A ELECTRIC GENERATING PLANT. 
          'CAUSE WE AIN'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY IN GREENBURG AND I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY UNLIKELY THAT WE WILL EVER HAVE IT IN ELECTRIC GENERATING PLANT IN GREENBURG . 
          SO, UH, AND THEY ALSO KIND OF SLIPPED OVER THE THING THAT THEY'RE EXHAUSTING HEAT ALSO. 
          YEAH. 
          OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEY, AND THERE ARE FINE PARTICULATES AND THEY'RE KIDS ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO THE BUS, YOU KNOW, ONE MORE. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. 
          I I THINK THEY'RE FINE PARTICULATES I THINK I SAW THERE, BUT THEY'RE LESS THAN THE FINE PARTICULATES OF A, YOU KNOW, A COAL BURNING PLANT. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S THE COMPARISON. 
          THE RELATIVE THING IS, UM, WHEN YOU TRY TO LOOK AT THE LOCAL, LIKE NANCY, YOU GOT IT RIGHT. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, IT DOESN'T REALLY APPLY. 
          AND WE, AND YOU REMEMBER OUR STATUTE SAYS YOU TAKE CARE OF THIS 20 MILES, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          IF YOU WANT, I I SENT IT AROUND BEFORE THAT'S FINE. 
          TWO FIVE DASH 36 M PROHIBITED USES IN ALL DISTRICTS. 
          AND ONE OF 'EM IS THINGS OBJECTABLE EMISSION OF OTHER FORMS OF AIR POLLUTION. 
          AND IT DOESN'T SAY, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OHIO OR BETTER WHAT'S HAPPENING IN UPSTATE NEW YORK, OR WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREENBURG STATUE OR GREENBURG ORDINANCE AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ADVISE ON THE GREENBERG ORDINANCE. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, TERRY? I MEAN, IT, IT, THIS IS LIKE A ETHICAL THING. 
          I MEAN, IT'S BETTER FOR THE GLOBE, BUT IS IT BETTER ? I DUNNO THAT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER FOR THE GLOBE. 
          I THINK IT'S MARGINALLY BETTER FOR THE GLOBE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW THAT LONG TERM. 
          IT'S BETTER FOR THE GLOBE IF WE KEEP LIKE SAYING WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, THIS IS JUST MOVING THE PROBLEM. 
          THE PROBLEM IS WE USE TOO MUCH ENERGY AND WE HAVE TO FIND ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO REDUCE OUR ENERGY USAGE. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF WE ALL HAVE TO LIVE DIFFERENTLY. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REALLY A WHOLE LIFE CHANGE THING FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD AND COUNTRY. 
          AND NO ONE POLITICIAN WANTS TO DO THAT. 
          THEY'RE JUST COMING UP WITH GRANDIOSE PLANS HOW IN 10 YEARS WE'RE GONNA ALL BE DRIVING ELECTRICAL CARS EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE ELECTRIC TO SUPPLY IT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, ANYONE WHO HAS LOOKED HAS SPENT AS MUCH TIME, I THINK, AS MIKE AND I DID ON THE, ON THE LAST BATTERY CELL THING, IS ACUTELY AWARE OF THIS IS A HUGE NATIONAL SHELL GAME OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          THAT REALLY DOESN'T HOLD UP IF YOU HAVE ANY SCRUTINY OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. 
          AND WHAT I JUST SEE HERE PERSONALLY IS SOMEONE JUST, IT, IT, IT'S GOOD FOR LTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A UNIFORM POWER SUPPLY AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF SERVERS IN THERE AND THEY NEED UNIFORM ELECTRIC. 
          SO IT'S A BETTER QUALITY ELECTRIC THEY'LL LAND UP WITH. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY WANT IT. 
          IT'S CHEAPER BECAUSE, AND SO ELISE, IT SERVES THEIR PURPOSES. 
          I DO NOT THINK IT SERVES THE PURPOSES OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          ARE WE, UH, I, I'M SORRY. 
          ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SAY ON, ON THIS ONE? ARE WE, ARE WE ALLOWED TO SUGGEST THINGS TO THEM? LIKE WHY AREN'T THEY LOOKING AT SOLAR OR SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WOULD CONFORM WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION? NO, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED. 
          LISTEN, IF THEY, WELL ONE, LIZ, LIZ, IF THEY HAVE A CONTRACT, NO. 
          IF THERE'S AN EXISTING CONTRACT, DON'T GET IN A POSITION THAT YOU ARE TELLING SOMEONE THAT'S IN A CONTRACT, THEY OUGHT TO NOT EITHER COMPLETE THE CONTRACT OR HONOR THE CONTRACT. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S CALLED, IT'S CALLED INTERFERENCE WITH CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS. 
          JUST IF SOMEONE'S GOT A CONTRACT, UH, GOOD, BAD OR THE UGLY OR WHETHER, WHATEVER YOU THINK ABOUT IT, NO, NO. 
          THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS, NOT YOURS. 
          AND DON'T I SUGGEST STRONG SUGGEST YOU DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          I'M SORRY AND I CUT YOU OFF. 
          NO, THAT'S OKAY. 
          I WAS ONLY JUST GONNA ADD THAT, UM, IN THE PLANNING BOARD'S REVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND, AND SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL RESEARCH THAT IT HAD DONE, IT FOUND THAT, UM, THESE BLOOM ENERGY UNITS CAN RUN 
          [02:40:01]
ON OTHER TYPES OF FUEL, INCLUDING BIOFUELS AND UH, I THINK EVEN HYDROGEN. 
          SO THE QUESTION WAS, WELL WHY AREN'T YOU USING A DIFFERENT METHOD IN THIS CASE? WHY ARE YOU USING THE NATURAL GAS? AND THE SIMPLE ANSWER WAS THAT THAT'S WHAT'S AVAILABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, LOCALLY, BUT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED. 
          SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE FUZZY, BRIAN, THROUGHOUT, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS WE COULD USE, BUT THERE AIN'T NO BIOMASS HERE AND HYDROGEN, AND HE DID ALLUDE TO IT, HAS OTHER ISSUES. 
          NO KIDDING. 
          HYDROGEN EXPLODES. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ISSUES, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          AND MAYBE WE OUGHT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT COMMENTING ON OTHER SOURCES OF, UH, UM, NOT COMMENTING ON, ON OTHER SOURCES OF, UH, OF, UH, OF INPUT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA. 
          YEAH. 
          ANY, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE TURN OVER TO LAUREN? THERE'S A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL REPORT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, WELL IF YOU'RE STILL AWAKE TOMORROW, , IT'S ALL YOU. 
          I, MIKE, I HAVE TO GET OFF, I STILL HAVE WORK THAT I'M, THAT DUE TOMORROW I CAN'T STAY ON ANYMORE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE A A A A THE FIRST OF A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS ON ELMWOOD SITUATIONS. 
          IT IS JUST BE GETTING US FAMILIAR AND WE'LL ALL READ LAUREN'S REPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          I SENT IT TO, TO EVERYBODY. 
          SO WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO GIVE ME A CALL OR, OR SEND ME AN EMAIL. 
          DO YOU WANNA SUMMARIZE WHAT IT SHOULD UP? AND SHUTMAN SHOWED SOME, I'M GONNA HIGH PRICES THERE. 
          UH, WELL YEAH, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN UH, DISCUSSING FOR THAT, UH, AREA IN ELMWOOD, AND TRUST ME, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WILL COME BACK AND SAY THAT THIS IS, THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN DISPEL THIS BASED ON OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. 
          I WENT WITH CERTAIN PARAMETERS, UH, WHEN I PULLED THIS REPORT. 
          THE OTHER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS REPORT AND WHAT I NORMALLY DO WHEN I'M DOING, UM, COMPS OR AN ANALYSIS IS I STRICTLY USE SOLD HOMES. 
          I MAY LOOK AT, UH, WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE MARKET THAT'S ACTIVE, JUST TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT PEOPLE ARE LISTING THEIR PROPERTIES FOR. 
          BUT OVERALL, I LOOK AT WHAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY SOLD FOR. 
          THERE WEREN'T A WHOLE LOT, UM, THAT HAVE SOLD AS, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PRICE RANGE. 
          SO AS I GO THROUGH, I'LL TELL YOU, I FOUND NINE LISTINGS THAT I COULD ACTUALLY USE. 
          ALL OF THESE LISTINGS ARE AROUND THE AREA. 
          THERE'S A MAP THAT'S INCLUDED. 
          THEY ARE IN THE AREA OF ELMWOOD. 
          THEY RUN OFF OF DOBBS, BURY ROAD, WORTHINGTON ROAD, SOME OF THE STREETS BEHIND THERE. 
          AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, WESTCHESTER VIEW LANES, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET OVER THERE. 
          AND THEN THERE'S THAT OTHER RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, UM, IS IT DRAGO ONE OF THOSE? IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE FIREHOUSE. 
          WORTHINGTON. 
          SAY THAT AGAIN? I THINK WORTHINGTON, WELL WORTHINGTON IS ON ONE SIDE, BUT THERE'S THE OTHER SIDE OF DOBBS FERRY. 
          SO I USED HOMES THAT, THAT ARE TRIED TO USE HOMES THAT FELL IN THOSE AREAS. 
          ALL OF THESE HOMES HAVE, UM, WHETHER THEY'RE ACTIVE, PENDING, THERE'S ONE EXPIRED AND SOLD. 
          THEY ALL HAD CERTAIN PARAMETERS THAT I USED. 
          ONE WAS THEY HAD TO HAVE BEEN BUILT BETWEEN 2001 AND, WELL, 2000 AND NOW THE MAJORITY OF THEM WERE BUILT IN 20 20, 20 19. 
          SOMEWHERE ALONG THERE. 
          THERE WERE A FEW IN 2003, 2004, UH, ONE OR TWO IN 2001. 
          THE SECOND PIECE OF THAT WAS THE, UH, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOMES. 
          THEY ALL FALL WITHIN THE RANGE OF, UH, 3,200 SQUARE FEET TO 5,900 SQUARE FEET FOR THESE HOMES. 
          AND THEN THE LAST PIECE OF IT WAS THE, I GUESS THE LOT SIZE, WHICH WAS 500 TO 900 IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH FITS INTO THE R 20 AND R 30 RANGE. 
          ALL OF THESE HOMES THAT FELL INTO THOSE PARAMETERS WERE SELLING AT 1 MILLION IN THIS CASE, 1000000.2. 
          ACTUALLY THEY, THAT, THE ONE THAT I USED, UH, THEY, IT WAS HIGHER, BUT THEY COULDN'T SELL IT AT THAT I GUESS. 
          SO THEY CAME DOWN. 
          SO, BUT FROM 1000000.2 TO 1000000.6 OKAY. 
          FOR THOSE HOMES. 
          AND ALONG WITH THAT, YOU HAD ONE HOME IN PARTICULAR 
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THAT SOLD, UM, IN 2020 FOR $785,000. 
          THAT HOME THOUGH FELL WITHIN ALL OF THE PARAMETERS THAT'S IN HERE. 
          IT SOLD IN OCTOBER, 2020. 
          THAT WAS A YEAR AGO. 
          IT WAS ON THE MARKET FOR, AND I'LL TELL YOU IN ONE SECOND HOW LONG IT WAS ON THE MARKET FOR. 
          IT WAS ONE, ALL OF THESE HOUSES, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR ANYWHERE FROM 200 TO 500 DAYS BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO SELL MILLION DOLLAR PLUS HOMES BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY CAN WALK UP AND DO IT. 
          THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE THEY WENT INTO CONTRACT AFTER SIX DAYS OF BEING ON THE MARKET. 
          AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IT WAS THE MOST HIGHEST PRICE AND IT SOLD FOR THE HIGHEST PRICE. 
          BUT IN GENERAL, THE HOUSE THAT SOLD FOR $785,000 WAS ORIGINALLY LISTED AT $1 MILLION. 
          IT WAS THEN REDUCED TO $995,000 AND ULTIMATELY SOLD FOR THE $785. 
          AND THAT ONE ORIGINALLY WENT ON THE MARKET IN 2019. 
          SO IT REALLY, THAT STILL REALLY WAS AFFECTED BY THE PANDEMIC. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTIES. 
          SOME OF THESE HOUSES OR SOME OF THESE HOMES, THERE'S ONE OR TWO THAT AREN'T EVEN COMPLETE YET. 
          IF YOU GO THROUGH THE PICTURES AND SOME OF THEM, THERE'S PICTURES AND THERE'S MAPS AND THERE'S, UM, SCHEMATICS FOR WHAT THE OVERALL PROPERTY IS GONNA LOOK LIKE. 
          BUT THEY KNOW THEY IN GENERAL, EVEN WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, ARE MAINTAINING THE VALUE THAT THEY WANNA PUT THEM ON THE MARKET WILL ULTIMATELY SEE WHAT THEY SELL FOR. 
          BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SOME CURRENTLY THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR OVER 500 DAYS AND, AND ALL OF THESE PRICES, YOU LOOK AT THE PRICES WAS SO PAGE TWO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THE RANGE IS 1.2 TO 1.6 AND THESE ARE ALL OR 20 OR THIRTIES. 
          NOW I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THE TOWNHOUSES WERE PROPOSED TO BE IN, I I DON'T REMEMBER THAT IN THIS NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET, BUT UH, THIS IS REALLY INVALUABLE, INVALUABLE. 
          I UH, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE OF THE OTHER THING. 
          BUT UH, WOW. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS SUPER WORKLOAD. 
          THIS IS REALLY GOOD. 
          UH, THANKS. 
          I'M SORRY IT TOOK YOU SO LONG. 
          , I'LL TALK TO YOU TWO OFFLINE, UM, WHEN I GET A CHANCE 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, BUT I, THIS AREA, UM, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH AS WE KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH LAND, WHICH IS WHY THEY WANNA DEVELOP IT THE WAY THEY DO. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ULTIMATELY THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK AND BITE US IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WANNA DO BECAUSE I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW THESE HOMES, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING COULD CHANGE. 
          EVERYTHING IS CYCLICAL, ESPECIALLY IN REAL ESTATE. 
          BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE PRICES AND THEY'RE STAYING ON THE MARKET FOR SO LONG THAT WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT WE DON'T WANT THEM TO THEN COME BACK FROM THE OTHER SIDE AND SAY, WELL YEAH, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE BEING LISTED AS. 
          AND YOU HAVE A FEW THAT SOLD, BUT YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING THAT QUICKLY. 
          SO MAYBE IT IS A BETTER INVESTMENT TO DO THE TOWN HOMES AT SUCH AND SUCH. 
          SO WE HAVE TO WEIGH THIS VERY CAREFULLY AND BE PREPARED FOR A RESPONSE WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH THAT AND THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT ONLY MAKES SENSE. 
          WELL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE HAVE TO, AS YOU SAY, TRACK WHAT HAPPENS TO ACTUAL SALES. 
          ANOTHER THING IS FOR THE TIME ON I, I SAW YOU, YOU WHAT YOU WROTE ABOUT THE TIME THAT THESE ARE ON THE MARKET MM-HMM. 
          , WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS, IS IS THIS NORMAL OR IS ARE THESE ON THE MARKETS FOR CONSIDERED TO BE ON THE MARKET FOR A LONG TIME OR IS THE TIME NEW ON THE MARKET NORMAL? IT STRUCK ME THAT MAYBE IT WAS A LONG TIME 'CAUSE YOU HEAR STORIES ABOUT THINGS SELLING RIGHT AWAY AND EVEN ME SELLING IT OVERPRICED. 
          ON THE OTHER HAND, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAID, UH, UH, THESE ARE AT A PRICE RANGE THAT UM, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IS NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, THAT IS OUT OF THE PRICE RANGE OF A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          SO I DON'T, WELL I CAN TELL YOU, I CAN TELL YOU IN THE LAST 5, 6, 7 YEARS OR SO, EVEN EIGHT YEARS OR SO, IF YOU WANNA GO BACK THAT FAR, WHEN THINGS WERE KIND OF, UH, THERE WERE RUMBLINGS AND THINGS WERE KIND 
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OF CHANGING, THE BOTTOM LINE IS MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOME SALES HAVE DWINDLED. 
          THEY'VE BEEN TOUGHER BECAUSE, AND, AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE I CAN SEE WHERE AGENTS THAT BOASTED BEING MILLION DOLLAR, SO HOME, YOU KNOW, SELLERS, UH, AND THEY ONLY LIST HOMES THAT WERE IN THAT PRICE RANGE ARE NOW DOING THE MID-LEVEL HOMES, THE, YOU KNOW, THE $500,000 HOMES, THE $300,000 HOMES, THEY'RE MOVING INTO DIFFERENT AREAS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HIGH END, THE JULIA B FEES AND THE SOTHEBY'S AND ALL OF THEM WHERE THEY KIND OF STAYED IN ONE AREA AND NOW YOU SEE THERE'S SIGNS ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THESE MILLION DOLLAR HOMES ARE NOT SELLING THE WAY THEY USED TO AND NOT AS QUICKLY EVERYBODY. 
          YOU EITHER HAVE THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING THE TRUE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR, SOMEONE THAT'S GONNA BUY THE 22 MILLION, UH, RON HOWARD HOME. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING IN THE $600,000, WHICH IS THE MEDIUM PRICE RANGE FOR UP HERE. 
          YOU VERY, YOU HAVE SOME, IF YOU'RE IN ARTS LEAGUE, YOU'LL HAVE SOME THAT ARE SPENDING THE $900, BUT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THERE YARD, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOT SIZE ISN'T NECESSARILY THE SIZE OF THESE LOTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT SELLING AS QUICKLY. 
          YOU HAVE A LOT OF INVESTORS WHO ARE ALSO OUT HERE IN THE MARKET AND THEY'RE BUYING UP PROPERTIES JUST SO THEY CAN FLIP AND THEY DON'T WANNA BUY RETAIL, OF COURSE THEY'RE UPDATING THEM. 
          SO THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL HOMES AND HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WILL BUY THEM AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BUILD SOME MORE BECAUSE I, I LOOK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE PICTURES, THEY'RE FABULOUS, BUT ONLY TIME WILL TELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING GUARANTEED AND WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THINGS ARE GONNA TURN AROUND. 
          SO TIME WILL, TIME WILL TELL WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THESE. 
          IT IS JUST NOT TRUE. 
          THE REPRESENTATION THAT, UH, WAS MADE TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES IS R 20 AND R 30. 
          THIS AREA ITSELF, $800,000. 
          THAT JUST IS NOT TRUE. 
          IF YOU PUT ANY OF THESE HOUSES I'VE SEEN FLIP THROUGH THE PICTURES QUICKLY ON THE MARKET FOR $800,000, THEY'D BE GOING BY NOON TOMORROW. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YOU KNOW, . 
          ABSOLUTELY, THEY ABSOLUTELY WOULD. 
          AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ALSO WHERE THESE HOUSES ARE, THEY ARE TOTALLY SURROUNDED AND THERE'S SOME BEAUTIFUL HOMES, SOME OF THEM, THERE ARE A FEW HOMES IN THAT SAME AREA THAT HAVE THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE HOMES, BUT THE LOTS ARE 0.0, 200 SQUARE FEET. 
          SO IT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT LOT SIZE WHERE THE HOMES RIGHT BEHIND SOME OF THESE RIGHT OFF OF WORTHINGTON, VAL MORROW HAS SEVERAL, BUT ALL OF THOSE HOMES, BECAUSE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS DIFFERENT AND MAYBE THEY DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY ROOMS OR AS MANY BATHROOMS THERE. 
          THOSE HOMES WERE GOING FOR 600,000, 700,000, 800. 
          THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ONE THAT WAS 900, UM, YOU KNOW, OFF A COUNTRY CLUB ROAD RIGHT THERE BEHIND THE GOLF COURSE. 
          SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. 
          AND THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY THAT. 
          AND I SUSPECT THAT THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK WITH THAT OR TRY TO COME BACK WITH THAT. 
          THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THEY CAN'T COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, IT'S THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          THEY MAY BE ABLE TO SAY THE HOUSE IS JUST AS BIG, BUT OH, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YOU SAY 0.2 IS 200 SQUARE FEET, ISN'T THAT 0.2 ACRES WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE LOT SIZE? YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I ALWAYS, AND I'M GONNA BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S OKAY. 
          ME TOO. 
          IT'S, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UM, YEAH, IT'S NOT 0.2. 
          IT'S NOT 0.2. 
          YEAH, IT'S, YEAH. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S 20 BASIS POINTS OF AN ACRE. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S STILL A SMALL, IT'S A SMALL LOT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          YEAH, WELL WHAT'S GONNA BE INVALUABLE WHEN THEY COME BACK AND SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, HOW'S THE SALE HERE, $800,000 OR THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US. 
          BOY, THEY'RE STILL GONNA TELL 'EM THAT. 
          BUT IF THEY TELL 'EM THAT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GONNA GET UP AND SAY, LAUREN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S FANTASY , YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY THIS AND THIS AND YOU'VE DOCUMENTED IT'S ABSOLUTELY FANTASY. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, OKAY, TERRY, YOU WERE GONNA SAY SOMETHING THEN I'LL SIGN OFF. 
          'CAUSE I, I THINK I, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT LAUREN IS DONE. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO REALLY GOING OVER IT IN DETAIL. 
          I THINK WE'RE ALL EXHAUSTED. 
          I REALLY THANK YOU AND NANCY 
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FOR TAKING ON DRAFTING THIS AND WE'LL ALL LOOK AT IT AND GIVE IT OUR INPUT AND UH, I KNOW IT'S A LONG NIGHT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HANGING IN THERE TO DO THIS TONIGHT 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG AND DIFFICULT MEETING, SO, OKAY. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR VERY MUCH OF ALL THE, UH, HELP AND GUIDANCE YOU'VE GIVEN US. 
          MY PLEASURE EVERYONE. 
          THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND I APPRECIATE YOU GETTING ON THIS MATTER AS QUICKLY AS YOU DID. 
          HAVE A GREAT EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BYE BYE.
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