Nov 10, 2021 Town Board- Regular

UM, I'D LIKE TO, UH, BEGIN THE MEETING.

UH, WE HAVE THREE AMAZING STUDENTS HERE, UM, WHO WERE PART OF, UH, JUDITH, UM, BEVILLES, UH, SUMMER INTERN, UM, PROGRAM.

THEY WERE THE CREAM OF THE CREAM, THE, THE AMONG THE TOP, UH, INTERNS WE HAD THIS SUMMER.

AND JUDITH, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE 'EM? UH, WE HAD, UM, A CEREMONY AT THE LOWEST BRONZE, UM, CHILDREN'S CENTER, UH, LAST WEEK.

I SEE A PICTURE OVER HERE.

UM, AND MAYBE YOU COULD TELL US, UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THESE STUDENTS ARE EXCEPTIONAL, UH, LEADERS.

ABSOLUTELY, PAUL.

SCHOOL, WHO HAVE, UH, THINGS TO SAY ABOUT A BOOK DRIVE THEY ORGANIZED.

IT'S MY HONOR AND MY PLEASURE.

SO OUR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM NOW IN ITS 13TH YEAR AND NEXT SUMMER WILL BE, ITS 14TH YEAR, HAS FOUR PILLARS OF PROGRAM EMPHASIS AND PROGRAM STRENGTH, COMMUNICATIONS, LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, PROBLEM SOLVING, AND TEAMWORK.

OUR PROGRAM HAS GROWN FROM A HAND FEW, UH, UH, JUST A, A FEW, UM, 13 YEARS AGO TO NOW, 34.

THIS PAST SUMMER WE HAD 34 INTERNS AND REGULAR DAILY ATTENDANCE WAS 34.

THAT'S HOW AWESOME THE PROGRAM WAS.

AND THE STUDENTS WERE THE ONES THAT MADE THE PROGRAM THE SUCCESS THAT IT WAS OUT OF THAT PROGRAM, STUDENTS WERE INSPIRED TO PRODUCE COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS.

THREE OF THOSE STUDENTS THIS EVENING, WE'LL TALK, TELL YOU ABOUT THEIR PROJECTS.

WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH NOE LEBANESE, WHO IS A SENIOR AT, IS IT SYRACUSE? UH, BINGHAMTON UNIVERSITY.

BINGHAMTON UNIVERSITY.

THANK YOU, NOE.

THANK YOU ALL.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, I WAS, UH, INSPIRED BY SUPERVISOR FINER AND ALL OF THE GREAT PUBLIC SPEAKERS THAT CAME TO OUR PROGRAM THIS SUMMER TO, UH, START A PROJECT RELATED TO THE PANDEMIC.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IN NEED OF FOOD DURING THIS TIME, ESPECIALLY AS THEY LOSE WORK AND, UH, FOOD BANKS GO DRY.

SO, UM, I HAD THE IDEA OF CREATING A PUBLIC RESOURCE ON THE GREENBERG N Y WEBPAGE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THIS WOULD BE A PUBLIC LIST OF FOOD PANTRIES, UM, INCLUDING THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION, UH, ADDRESS AND OTHER IMPORTANT RELEVANT INFORMATION THEY MIGHT WANT TO INCLUDE.

UM, AND I JUST WANNA THANK, UH, SUPERVISOR FINER MS. BEVILLE AND THE, UH, WEBMASTER MR. JOE LUCAS, IF HE'S HERE FOR THEIR HELP IN THIS ENDEAVOR.

UM, MOVING ON, I THINK, UH, WE CAN MOVE TO NIR V.

YES, THE, UH, PLEASE INTRODUCE NAUGHTON NVO AND 10 YVAN.

I BELIEVE YOU WERE A SO JUNIOR.

HE'S A JUNIOR AT HIGH SCHOOL, EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL, AND 10 FRESHMAN.

FRESHMAN AT EDGEMONT HIGH

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GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS NVO NALANI.

AND BEFORE I'D LIKE TO GET INTO OUR PROJECT, I FIRST WANT TO THANK MS. BEVILLE FOR MAKING SUCH A GREAT SUMMER INTERNSHIP ALONG WITH ALL OF YOU, MR. FINER AND ALL COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN.

THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING GREAT INTERNSHIP, A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE WHERE WE LEARNED ABOUT THE FOUR PILLARS THAT MS. BEVILLE STATED, WHERE IT'S LEADERSHIP, COMMUNICATION, TEAM WORKING, AND PROBLEM SOLVING.

IT WAS A REALLY GREAT INTERN, UH, INTERNSHIP, AND IT WAS A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE, WHERE WE TOOK BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES AND A LOT OF WORLD KNOWLEDGE THAT WE COULD APPLY TO OUR EVERYDAY LIVES.

SO IN THE INTERNSHIP, WE HEARD FROM MANY MARVELOUS GUEST SPEAKERS, INCLUDING MS. BEVILLE AND MR. FINA, WHO REALLY INSPIRED US TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE BACK TO OTHERS.

SO BEFORE I GET INTO THE PROJECT, WE DID, I WANNA SHARE A STORY OF HOW IT CAME ABOUT.

SO, OVER THE SUMMER, ME AND MY FAMILY VISITED NEW YORK CITY WHERE WE SAW A GROUP OF TEENS GIVING OUT BOOKS AND ASKING FOR DONATIONS TO VARIOUS CHARITIES.

WE SAW HOW AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE, THEY MADE SUCH A BIG IMPACT IN THEIR COMMUNITY, AND WE WANTED TO DO THE SAME HERE AT GREENBURG.

SO WE DECIDED TO HAVE A BOOK DRIVE.

SO IN THIS BOOK DRIVE, WE TOOK LIGHTLY USED CHILDREN'S BOOKS.

AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FARMER'S MARKETS AT THE GREENBURG TOWN HALL, WE SOLD THESE, UM, BOOKS FOR TWO TO $8.

AND ALL MONEY THAT WE MADE WENT TO THE LOWEST BRONZE CHILDREN'S CENTER.

AND AS YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE ABOVE, THIS WAS US AT THE CENTER WITH THE, UH, CURRENT PRESIDENT AND HER ASSISTANTS.

AND REALLY JUST GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND I MEAN, IT HELPED INSPIRED US AT FIRST TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, INSPIRED OUR PEERS TO MAKE A, A SIMILAR IMPACT.

AND WE SAW THIS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE INTERNSHIP, WHERE MOST OF OUR PEERS TOOK INITIATIVE TO CHANGE THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO AT THE END OF THE FOREMOST MARKET, WE MADE $180 TO DONATE TO THE LOWEST BONDS CHILDREN'S CENTER.

AND EVEN IF IT'S SMALL, WE'RE GLAD TO MAKE AN IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY.

IF WE WANNA CHANGE, WE HAVE TO BECOME THE CHANGE.

AND NONE OF THIS WOULD'VE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF MS. VILLE, MS. DINA, AND NOE.

AND TOGETHER WE CAN REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

THANK YOU, NOE, NVO, AND 10, AND I REFER TO THESE THREE YOUNG PEOPLE AS WELL AS ALL OF THE INTERNS IN OUR PROGRAM AS FUTURE LEADERS.

THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN.

AMONG DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE AT TOWN HALL WHEN OUR SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM BEGINS.

AND I JUST LIKE TO, UH, UH, JUDAH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

UH, EVERY YEAR, UH, WE HAVE A FANTASTIC INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, AND EVERY YEAR IT GETS BETTER.

AND, UH, THIS YEAR WAS ACTUALLY, UM, THIS PAST SUMMER WAS, I'D SAY LIKE THE, THE BEST ONE WE'VE HAD BECAUSE THE STUDENTS NOT ONLY LEARNED, UM, ABOUT GOVERNMENT AND INTERACTED, BUT THEY GAVE BACK.

UH, NOT ONLY, UM, ARE WE, UH, BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY, BENEFITING FROM YOUR WORK, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME STUDENTS WHO ARE, UH, VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME AS LANDSCAPE ANGELS.

AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY, UM, UH, DOING LAWN CARE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS AND ELDERLY AND PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOMES WHO DON'T HAVE THE MEANS TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR LAWNS.

UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERING FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS.

THEY'RE GONNA BE VOLUNTEERING AGAIN THIS, UH, THIS WEEKEND.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS SO EXCITING TO SEE STUDENTS LIKE YOURSELF WHO, UM, ARE THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY, WHO ARE REALLY EXCELLENT ROLE MODELS AND REAL INSPIRATIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE READ SO MANY STORIES ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE SO HORRIBLE AND, UM, HOW EVERYBODY'S BICKERING AND PEOPLE CAN'T GET ALONG.

AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE GETTING ALL DISCOURAGED, YOU HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES, AND IT CHANGES YOUR MIND.

AND YOU REALIZE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF WHO ARE REALLY GREAT AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA BE TREMENDOUS FUTURE LEADERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.

SO, THANK YOU.

THANK, THANK YOU, PAUL.

AND I JUST WANT TO ADD, UM, AS WE BRING CLOSURE TO THIS SEGMENT OF OUR MEETING THIS EVENING, THAT, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS PROGRAM HERE AT TOWN HALL.

OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, TIM LEWIS, GARRETT DUANE, COMMISSIONER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION, RICH VAUGHN, COMMISSIONER FOR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND BRIAN SIMMONS, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER.

WE HAVE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT

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AND WE USUALLY START RECEIVING EMAILS FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE STUDENTS AS EARLY AS JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF THE PROGRAM YEAR.

SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU KNOW OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF OUR 2022 GREENBURG TOWN HALL SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, PLEASE HAVE THEM SEND AN EMAIL TO MYSELF, J BEVILLE AT GREENBERG, AT@GREENBERGNY.COM, OR TO PAUL FINER TOWN SUPERVISOR P FINER@GREENBERGNY.COM.

AND, UM, WE JUST LOOK FORWARD TO A VERY EXCITING NEW PROGRAM YEAR FOR OUR INTERNS.

THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN, TO THOSE OF YOU, TO NVO TOY AND NOWAY, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AND YOU DEMONSTRATED THE EVIDENCE OF THE SKILLS THAT WE WORK ON DURING THE PROGRAM.

COMMUNICATIONS, PROBLEM SOLVING, LEADERSHIP, AND TEAMWORK.

NEXT, UM, ONE OF, UH, THE JEWELS IN, UM, IN GREENBERG IS OUR LIBRARY.

[ INTRODUCTION Introduction of Christina Ryan-Linder, newly appointed Director of the Greenburgh Public Library]

UM, THE GREENBERG LIBRARY IS NOT ONLY A GREAT, UH, LOCAL LIBRARY, BUT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE REGION, UM, WANNA, UM, TAKE OUT BOOKS AND ENJOY THE AMENITIES OF THE LIBRARY BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST LIBRARIES, UM, IN, IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY.

AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA, UM, NOW RECOGNIZE, UM, THE NEWLY APPOINTED, UM, DIRECTOR OF THE GREENBERG PUBLIC LIBRARY, CHRISTINA RYAN LINDER.

UM, AND, UM, CHRISTINA IS TAKING OVER FROM, UH, JOHN SEXTON, WHO, UM, RECENTLY, UM, RETIRED AND DID A REALLY GREAT JOB, UM, UM, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC.

SO CHRISTINA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? HI, THANK YOU.

NO, YOU DID.

NO, CHRISTINA COME, COMES TO THE MIC.

WELCOME, CHRISTINA.

THANK, UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY THESE LAST FIVE YEARS TO HAVE WORKED FOR THE GREENBURG PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

IT'S A FABULOUS COMMUNITY.

AND NOW I WAS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND NOW I'M BECOMING THE DIRECTOR.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MANY MORE YEARS AND, UH, WONDERFUL LIBRARY SERVICE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINA.

CHRISTINA DID IT AS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB AS ASSISTANT LIBRARY DIRECTOR, AND I KNOW SHE'LL DO A GREAT JOB AS DIRECTOR TOO.

SO WELCOME.

HAPPY TO HAVE YOU.

COULD YOU MENTION, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT, UH, THAT YOU'RE OFFERING? UM, RIGHT NOW, UM, WE ARE GETTING BACK INTO HAVING PROGRAMS IN PERSON AGAIN AT THE LIBRARY.

SO WELCOME BACK TO BEING OPEN AND HAVING PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING.

IT'S BEEN A ROUGH YEAR AND A HALF OR SO.

UM, BUT WE STILL OFFER ALL OF THE AMENITIES AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING WHILE COVID WAS HAPPENING.

WE ARE STILL OFFERING CURBSIDE.

THERE'S STILL A LOT THAT'S BEING OFFERED, UM, ELECTRONICALLY, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DOWNLOADED, THE MANY APPS AND E-RESOURCES THAT YOU CAN GET, BOOKS, MAGAZINES, UH, AUDIO BOOKS, ALL THAT YOU CAN GET ONLINE OR THROUGH YOUR E-READER, YOUR PHONE.

UH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THAT.

UM, THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE HAPPENING, WE HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS, UH, STORY TIMES AND THE, LIKE, A LOT OF MUSIC PROGRAMS COMING UP TOO IN THE NEW YEAR.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR THOSE AS WELL.

SO, UM, YEAH, COME CHECK OUT THE LIBRARY AND DEFINITELY CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE TOO.

THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS INFORMATION ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND YOU CAN GET A LOT THROUGH THE WEBSITE AS WELL.

AND YOUR LIBRARY CARD IS ALL YOU NEED.

SO DEFINITELY GET ONE OF THOSE AS WELL.

AND YOU STILL COULD GET THE FREE TICKETS TO MUSEUMS? YES, THE MUSEUM PASSES, UH, ARE AVAILABLE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE LAPTOP LAPTOPS, MUSEUM PASSES IN NEW YORK CITY FOR NEW YORK CITY.

YEP.

THOSE MUSEUM PASSES ARE AVAILABLE AND THE MUSEUMS ARE OPEN.

AND WE ALSO HAVE LAPTOPS, UH, THAT WE ARE LOANING OUT HOTSPOTS IF YOU DON'T HAVE CONNECTIVITY AT HOME, UH, FIRE STICKS, AMAZON, FIRE STICKS, WE'RE, UH, ALSO LOANING OUT.

SO, UM, YOU CAN BE STREAMING SERVICES AS WELL.

SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THERE TO, UH, COME AND CHECK OUT.

CAN I JUST ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION? UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE INTERNET AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE READING BOOKS THROUGH EMAIL, WHY DO YOU THINK THE LIBRARIES ARE MORE POPULAR NOW THAN EVER? WELL, I THINK THAT THE LIBRARY OFFERS A WHOLE LOT, UH,

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FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, DEFINITELY, UM, WHAT YOU CAN GET THERE IS JUST SO MUCH.

NOT TO MENTION THE SPACE AND THE AVAILABILITY OF MEETING A PLACE TO BE MEETING AND, AND WORKING AND STUDYING.

I THINK THAT, UH, IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY CENTER, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE OTHER COMMUNITY CENTERS IN THE COMMUNITY, THE LIBRARY IS ALSO ANOTHER GREAT COMMUNITY CENTER.

PEOPLE COME, THEY STUDY ALL DAY, THEY WORK, THEY ACTUALLY DO BUSINESS ALL THERE AS WELL.

AND WE HAVE A CAFE THAT DOESN'T SERVE FOOD, BUT WE HAVE, UH, VENDING MACHINES AND THE LIKE, SO YOU CAN HAVE LUNCH SO AS WELL.

SO THERE'S A LOT THERE THAT'S OFFERED, UH, YOU KNOW, PHYSICAL IN THE PHYSICAL SPACE AS WELL.

WELL, THANK YOU.

CAN YOU TELL 'EM ABOUT THE NEW CHILDREN'S LIBRARY? I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A MEMBER OF THE LIBRARY GUILD, WE DID SOME NICE GREAT UPGRADES ON THAT.

YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT SINCE IT'S NOW MORE CHILDREN'S ARE FRIENDLY? SURE, YES.

I MEAN, THE CHILDREN'S LIBRARY, UM, WE DID DO A RENOVATION AND UPDATE IN 2017.

UM, SO WE HAVE HAD, UH, MORE SPACE, MORE, UH, AVAILABILITY FOR BOOKS, EASIER ACCESS FOR THE KIDS.

UM, BUT OUR RECENT PROJECT IS, IS DEFINITELY THE CAFE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO THERE.

AND WE'RE HOPING TO MOVE OUT AND THE PATIO AND GET, UH, PEOPLE OUT ON THE PATIO.

WE HAVE QIGONG ON THE PATIO, MEDITATION ON THE PATIO, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ALSO OUTSIDE.

UH, WELL IT WAS, WE'RE KIND OF WINDING DOWN 'CAUSE IT'S GETTING COLDER, BUT HAVING THAT AVAILABLE AS WELL.

SO YEAH, COME IN AND CHECK IT OUT.

NEXT WE'RE GONNA, UM, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINE.

WELCOME.

ABOARD.

I GUESS, UM, WONDER BEFORE WE, UH, START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, MENTIONED THAT, UM, UH, TONIGHT AT MIDNIGHT, SINCE YOU SAID WE SHOULD BE OUT BY MIDNIGHT.

UM, UH, IF YOU STILL WANNA EXPERIENCE GREENBERG, YOU COULD CHECK ON, UM, OUR PUBLIC ACCESS TV PROGRAM BECAUSE, UH, FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO, UM, SUNDAY, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE, UM, AIRING ON OUR PUBLIC ACCESS TV STATIONS, UM, LIVING HISTORY INTERVIEWS OF 150, UH, VETERANS.

UM, DURING THE PAST DECADE, WE'VE INTERVIEWED, UM, UM, 150 50 VETERANS OF WORLD WAR II AND THE KOREAN CONFLICT, UH, SOME UNFORTUNATELY HAVE SINCE PASSED AWAY, AND EACH INTERVIEW IS A HALF HOUR.

AND, UM, EACH OF THE VETERANS TELLS THEIR STORIES, UM, ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES AS A, A, A HERO, UM, FIGHTING FOR, UM, FOR DEMOCRACY.

TOMORROW'S VETERAN'S DAY AND GREENBURG'S AND A HALF VETERANS DAY, UH, CEREMONY AT DETE, UM, UH, PLAZA, UH, ACROSS FROM THE HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION AT 2:00 PM AND ON SATURDAY AT 11 O'CLOCK, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE DEDICATING A WOMAN'S VETERANS, UM, UH, PEACE GARDEN AT THE GREENBERG, UH, LIBRARY.

AND THAT'S AT 11, UM, YOU KNOW, 11 O'CLOCK.

UM, AND I THINK IT'S THE FIRST, UH, PEACE GARDEN DEDICATED TO WOMEN'S VETERANS, UM, IN, IN THE REGION.

AND IT'S SPONSORED BY, UH, THE BARBARA G ORANO, UM, YOU KNOW, FOUNDATION.

SO HOPE TO SEE EVERYBODY, AND I HOPE YOU WATCH SOME OF THE AMAZING, UM, UH, LIVING HISTORY, UM, INITIATIVES.

AND THEN THE FINAL THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS, UM, GREENBERG, UM, POLICE, UM, UM, AND I SEE, UH, CHIEF, UH, CHRIS MCNERNEY, UM, HERE.

UM, WE'RE DISTRIBUTING, UH, REFLECTORS FREE REFLECTORS, UM, SOMETIMES AT NIGHT IF YOU'RE DRIVING, UM, AND PEOPLE ARE WEARING DARK CLOTHING, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE PEOPLE.

AND, UM, WE'VE HAD PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS, WE'VE HAD PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES IN THE TOWN, AND WE'RE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO, UM, UH, WEAR REFLECTORS BRIGHT CLOTHING.

UH, IF THEY'RE WALKING AT NIGHT, UH, USE A FLASHLIGHT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S SO EASY FOR A MOTORIST, UM, TO HIT SOMEBODY IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL.

SO YOU COULD GET FREE REFLECTORS AT THE LOBBY AT TOWN HALL AND AT THE LOBBY AT THE THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER.

AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CHIEF FOR ARRANGING, UM, FOR, UH, FOR THAT, UM, UH, SAFETY UNIT INITIATIVE.

SO, THANK YOU.

UM,

[ Re-opening of a Public Hearing to consider a Local Law amending Section 285-28 of the Zoning Ordinance, entitled “DS Designed Shopping District,” as it relates to Automotive Fuel Station Uses]

UM, AND THE FIRST HEARING IS REOPENING OF A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW AMENDING SECTION 2 85 28 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE ENTITLED DSS DESIGN SHOVING DISTRICT AS IT RELATES TO AUTOMOTIVE FUEL STATION USES.

SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN UP THE HEARING.

ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE AYE.

AS IT WAS NOTED, THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS RELATED TO A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT PETITION SUBMITTED BY SAM'S CLUB SOUNDS FOR A PROPOSAL TO AMEND SECTION 2 85 DASH 28 CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO ALLOW AUTOMOTIVE FUEL STATIONS ON SITES CONSISTING WITH FIVE OR MORE ACRES AS A SPECIAL PERMIT USE WITHIN THE DSS DESIGN SHOPPING.

COMMISSIONER EVENING SUPERVISOR, FINER AND TOWN BOARD MEMBERS DEREK KING, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.

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GARRETT, JUST A MOMENT.

JANELLE, COULD YOU TURN UP HIS MIC? YEAH.

YOU NEED TO SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER, GARRETT, IF YOU CAN PLEASE.

HOPEFULLY THAT'S HELPFUL.

I'M GONNA ADJUST MY SETTINGS HERE.

PERFECT.

BETTER, BETTER.

DON'T OVERDO IT.

UM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO START OVER? YES.

, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

YOU CAN'T SAY YOU COULDN'T HEAR 'EM AND YOU DON'T WANT 'EM TO START OVER.

FAIR ENOUGH.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS RELATED TO A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT PETITION SUBMITTED BY SAM'S CLUB FOR A PROPOSAL TO AMEND SECTION 2 85 DASH 28 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO ALLOW AUTOMOTIVE FUEL STATIONS ON SITES CONSISTING OF FIVE OR MORE ACRES AS A SPECIAL PERMIT USE WITHIN THE DS DESIGNED SHOPPING ZONING DISCHARGE.

IF THE APPLICANT'S ZONING TEXT PETITION IS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WILL SEEK SITE PLAN, SPECIAL PERMIT, AND RELATED APPROVALS ON A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 33 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, P O ELMSFORD, WHICH CONTAINS THE SAMS CLUB RETAILER FOR AN APPRO SEEKING APPROVAL FOR AN EIGHT PUMP AUTOMOTIVE FUELING STATION.

THIS HEARING, AS WAS NOTED, IS A REOPENING AND IS A CONTINUATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING THAT OCCURRED ON THIS MATTER ON MARCH 11TH, 2020, MARCH 25TH, 2020, AND APRIL 22ND, 2020.

MR. JEREMIAH CANVA REPRESENTING SAM'S CLUB'S HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION INCLUDING UPDATES SINCE THE LAST HEARING.

GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR.

FINER IN TOWN BOARD MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JEREMIAH RIVA.

I'M A PARTNER AT THE LAW FIRM OF TROUTMAN PEPPER, HAMILTON SANDERS ON BEHALF OF SAM'S REAL ESTATE BUSINESS TRUST, I'M HERE TODAY WITH DAN GROSS, WHO'S THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF FUEL OPERATIONS FOR ALL FUEL RELATED FOR SAM AND WALMART IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND, UH, CHELSEA PENN, UH, WHO'S OUR SENIOR REAL ESTATE MANAGER, UH, IS ATTENDING VIA ZOOM.

UM, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE BACK BEFORE YOU TODAY AND TO DISCUSS THIS EXCITING PROPOSAL.

WOULD YOU PLEASE, UM, ADVANCE THIS SLIDE? THANK YOU.

TO REFRESH, UH, YOUR RECOLLECTION.

SAM'S CLUB SEEKS TO LOCATE AN AUTOMOTIVE FUEL STATION ON A PORTION OF ITS PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 3 3 SOMO RIVER ROAD.

THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF EIGHT NEW GAS PUMPS AT THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THE PROJECT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING LOT TO ALTER EXISTING TRAVEL LIENS, STRIPING AND NUMBER OF SPACES.

WE EXPECT A QUICK CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME OF THREE TO FOUR MONTHS START TO FINISH THE APPLICATION THAT'S BEFORE YOU.

AND THE SUBJECT OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION 2 85 28 OF THE TOWN ZONING ORDINANCE TO PERMIT AUTOMOTIVE FUEL STATIONS BY SPECIAL PERMIT IN THE DSS DISTRICT.

IF APPROVED, WE WOULD APPLY FOR BOTH A SPECIAL PERMIT UNDER THE NEW TEXT AND A VARIANCE FROM THE Z B A FOR VARIATIONS IN THE APPLICABLE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

AT, AT THIS TIME, THE ONLY ACTION THAT'S BEFORE THE BOARD IS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CODE, THE APPROVAL OF WHICH IS A CONDITION PRECEDENT TO AN APPLICATION BY SAM'S CLUB FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT TO LOCATE THE AUTOMOTIVE FUEL STATION AT THE SITE.

I NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED THIS BOARD WITH DETAILED INFORMATION, UM, SINCE THE CLOSE OF ITS VARIOUS PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE'VE RESPONDED TO ALL REQUESTS AND PROVIDED SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION RELATING TO OUR PROPOSAL, INCLUDING OUR DETAILED RESPONSE, EXPLAINING WHY CLAIMS OF THE OPPOSING GAS STATION OWNERS AND OPERATORS, SOME OF WHOM I EXPECT YOU TO HEAR TO HEAR FROM TONIGHT WERE UNSUBSTANTIATED.

WHEN WE FIRST DOCUMENTED GAS PRICES IN OCTOBER OF 2020, THE CHEAPEST GAS THAT WAS AVAILABLE WAS AT THE NEW EXXON STATION AT $2 AND 5 CENTS A GALLON.

AS OF, UH, LAST INVENTORY, WHICH WAS LAST MONTH, THE PRICE OF A REGULAR GALLON OF GAS HAD INCREASED TO STAGGERING 60% TO $3 AND 29 CENTS A GALLON.

AND THAT WASN'T EVEN THE HIGHEST PRICE OF GAS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

IT WAS THE MOBILE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AT $3 AND 67 CENTS A GALLON.

IN MY OPINION, OUR MEMBERS AND YOUR

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CONSTITUENTS WHO OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL ARE BEING GOUGED AT THE GAS PIPES, PIPES, PUMPS, AND HAVE NOT BEEN AFFORDED THE LEVEL OF HEALTHY BUSINESS COMPETITION THAT SAM'S CLUB HAS BEEN SEEKING TO PROVIDE SINCE WE FIRST SUBMITTED OUR APPLICATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.

SAM'S CLUB VALUES ITS GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN, AND WE TRULY HOPE OUR RELATIONSHIP WILL BE LONGSTANDING.

WE'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY APPROXIMATELY 25 YEARS, AND WE HOPE, EXCUSE ME SIR, YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR MASK ON PLEASE.

WE'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY APPROXIMATELY 25 YEARS, AND WE'D LIKE TO BE IN THIS COMMUNITY ANOTHER 25 YEARS.

WE PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE ECONOMY, IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY IN TERMS OF JOBS AND TAXES, BOTH REAL ESTATE AND SALES TAXES.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONFIRM WITH THE TOWN TAX ASSESSOR, AND WE PAY AN ANNUAL REAL ESTATE OBLIGATION OF $514,000 A YEAR, AND THAT NUMBER WOULD INCREASE BY APPROXIMATELY $55,000 SHOULD THIS PROJECT BE APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD.

AND THAT'S ONLY REAL ESTATE RELATED TAX OBLIGATIONS, IT DOESN'T DEAL WITH ANY OF THE SALES TAX THAT WOULD BE GENERATED.

WE CAN'T STRESS, SAM'S CLUB CANNOT STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF PROVIDING GAS AT THIS LOCATION.

IT'S SO CRITICAL TO OUR BUSINESS MODEL THAT WE HAVE NOT BUILT A NEW GAS, A NEW CLUB WITHOUT GAS FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.

AND IN FACT, 87% OF OUR EXISTING CLUBS OFF OF GAS TO OUR MEMBERS.

ACCORDINGLY, WE ARE RESPECTFULLY ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER THE SUBSTANTIVE MERITS OF THIS PROPOSAL AND RENDER A FAVORABLE DECISION ON THE MATTER.

IN CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS THAT THE PETITION HAS PROVIDED TO THE TOWN IN RESPONSE THAT WE'VE, IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM EITHER THE PLANNING BOARD, THE TOWN BOARD, OR OPPOSITION PARTIES, SEVERAL ALLEGATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE DETRIMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.

THESE ARE UNFOUNDED CLAIMS. UM, THERE ARE CLAIMS THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD RESULT IN FLOODING TANK LEAKS BECAUSE OF A PROXIMITY TO THE SAWMILL RIVER.

AS I'VE INDICATED IN OUR CORRESPONDENCE DATED APRIL 2ND, 2020, PETITIONER IS PROPOSING A STATE-OF-THE-ART SYSTEM THAT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD.

IT DOESN'T LEAK, IT HAS BACKUP SYSTEMS, AND IT'S, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY IT'S PROBABLY MORE UP TO DATE THAN ANY OF THE EXISTING GAS STATIONS IN THIS TOWN, EXCEPT FOR PERHAPS THE NEW EXXON.

UM, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH KIMLEY-HORN, WHO'S THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.

WE PROVIDED A COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT TOOK INTO ACCOUNT NOT ONLY SHOPRITE AND OTHER PROJECTS IN THE VICINITY OF OUR SITE, IN OUR TRAFFIC STUDY AREA, BUT IT ACCOUNTED FOR, UH, GROWTH FACTORS.

IT LOOKED AT TRUCKING, IT LOOKED AT PARKING, IT LOOKED AT CIRCULATION, AND THE ANALYSIS DID NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS.

UM, WE LOOKED AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS THAT WERE ALLEGED THAT WOULD RESULT FROM, UH, A COMPETITION WITH EXISTING GAS STATION, UH, OPERATORS AND OWNERS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CORRESPONDENCE DATED APRIL THE SECOND OF 2020 AND JULY THE 28TH OF 2021, WE'VE SET FORTH ESSENTIALLY THAT THE EMOTIONAL PLEAS, UH, UH, THAT ARE FALLING, UH, THAT, THAT YOU'RE HEARING ARE REALLY, UH, UH, AN ISSUE THAT RELATE TO BUSINESS COMPETITION.

AND BUSINESS COMPETITION IS, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, A FOUNDATION, A FOUNDATIONAL ASPECT OF OUR AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.

UM, IN CLOSING, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION YES, SIR.

THAT I JUST, UH, WOULD, LIKE ANSWERED.

UH, I'VE OBSERVED, UH, THE SAM'S CLUB IN RECENT WEEKS SINCE THE LAST, UH, YOU KNOW, PRESENTATION THAT YOU MADE BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD, AND SOMETIMES IT'S VERY, THE PARKING SPOTS ARE ALL TAKEN, UM, AND IT SEEMS CONGESTED.

AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING, UM, IF YOU HAVE A GAS STATION, UH, THERE'LL BE CARS, UH, LINING UP AND WON'T THAT, UH, TAKE AWAY VALUABLE, UH, PARKING SPOTS? AND COULD IT ALSO CREATE, UH, PARKING, UM, YOU KNOW, CON YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC CONGESTION ISSUES? IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

WE LOOKED AT THAT, UH, SPECIFIC ISSUE IN DEPTH WITH KIMLEY HORN.

UM, AS A RESULT OF OUR TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT AND THE ANALYSIS THAT WE PROVIDED IN OUR INTERACTIONS WITH KIMLEY HORN, CERTAIN SUGGESTIONS WERE MADE FOR CHANGING TRUCK ROUTES AND PARKING STRIPING, AND ALL OF THAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO

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THE SITE PLAN AND TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT THAT WE PREPARED.

BUT AGAIN, THE BEAUTY OF THIS QUESTION IS THAT IT LE IT REALLY RESONATES WITH THE SPECIAL PERMIT PROCESS.

TO THE EXTENT THAT THE TEXT IS APPROVED, ONE NEEDS TO SATISFY THE TOWN BOARD, THAT THE ANALYSES THAT ARE CONTAINED WITHIN A SPECIAL PERMIT APPLICATION ARE SUFFICIENT TO WARRANT APPROVAL.

AND WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT.

AND, AND THAT'S ALL THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY.

YOUR, I I, THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS WHO HAVE CONTACTED ME, AND THESE ARE NOT GAS STATION OWNERS, THESE ARE AVERAGE CITIZENS, AND THEY INDICATED THAT, UM, THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, SEEN SAM'S CLUB OPERATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

AND, UM, AND SOMETIMES CARS ARE LINED UP, ESPECIALLY WITH GAS PRICES, YOU KNOW, INCREASING.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT, IT WAS LIKE A DOLLAR, YOU KNOW, $2.

IT'S ONE THING IF IT'S ALMOST FOUR OR $5 THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN'T WE ANTICIPATE MORE CONGESTION.

AND HAS THERE BEEN ANY ANALYSIS OF, UM, OF WHAT'S HAPPENED AROUND THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF, UM, CARS EITHER LINED UP OR NOT LINED UP DURING, ESPECIALLY DURING PEAK HOURS? YEAH, IT, AND AGAIN, IT'S A VERY THOUGHT OUT AND FAIR QUESTION.

DAN IS HERE AND CAN, CAN ADDRESS SOME OF OUR OPERATIONAL ISSUES.

BUT YES, OUR TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT LOOKED AT QUEUING CARS ARRIVING.

AND BY THE WAY, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I BELIEVE THIS IS A WELL SUITED PROPOSAL IS BECAUSE THIS IS STRICTLY GAS.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE INCIDENTAL TRIPS, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH CAR WASHES OR SERVICE GARAGES OR LATE NIGHT TRIPS.

PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR A PURPOSE.

THEY'RE EITHER GONNA SHOP AT SAM'S CLUB OR THEY'RE GONNA COME AND GET GAS AND LEAVE.

THERE'S NO DILLY DALLYING.

THERE'S NO STOPPING IN FOR A PACK OF CIGARETTES OR WATER OR FOOD.

AND IN THAT REGARD, BY THE WAY, WE ARE NOT IN COMPETITION WITH THE EXISTING GAS STATION OWNERS WHO DERIVE A GREAT PERCENTAGE OF THEIR PROFITS FROM THEIR CONVENIENCE STORE SALES VIS-A-VIS THEIR GAS SALES.

AND THAT'S A REAL QUESTION YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK THE GAS STATION OWNERS.

BUT HAVING, HAVING, GETTING BACK TO THE POINT, OUR GAS STATIONS DON'T OVERFLOW INTO STREETS, THEY'RE DESIGNED PROPERLY.

THAT'S WHY WE WORK WITH, WITH KIMLEY KIMLEY HORN TO THEIR SATISFACTION ON THAT ISSUE.

AND THE FINAL QUESTION I HAVE, AND I'M SORRY, UM, UH, WOULD YOU BE RECEPTIVE, UM, IF THE BOARD, UH, WOULD HAVE A DESIRE TO ONLY PUT IN, UM, INITIALLY SAY ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS, WHICH EVERYBODY FEELS IS, IS DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, NEEDED AND WOULD NOT BE A DIRECT COMPETITION TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE GAS STATIONS.

IT WOULD BE JUST, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU CONSIDER JUST INITIALLY PUTTING IN ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS AND NOT THE GAS GAS PUMPS? UM, LIKE ONE, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE.

OH, OH, OKAY.

AND SO HERE'S HOW I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

WE HAD A VERY, UH, UH, A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PLANNING BOARD.

AND THE ISSUE AT THE PLANNING BOARD CAME UP THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR EV CHARGING STATIONS, AND DAN CAN SPEAK TO IT AGAIN, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO MODIFY OUR SITE PLAN TO PROVIDE FOR AN AREA SO THAT ONE OF OUR VENDORS, AND AGAIN, WE WORK WITH SEVERAL VENDORS, A VENDOR COULD IN FACT INSTALL EV CHARGING STATIONS.

THE AREA OF OUR SITE PLAN WAS SET ASIDE FOR THAT EXACT PURPOSE.

WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN NOT PROVIDING GAS TO OUR MEMBERS.

AGAIN, 87% OF OUR STORES HAVE GAS IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO OUR BUSINESS ISSUE.

IT IS A DRIVING FORCE FOR OUR BUSINESS.

AND, AND, BUT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE TOWN AND MEET THEIR DUAL GOALS OF PROVIDING THE PUBLIC ITS CONSTITUENTS OR MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND CHARGE THEIR CAR CARS AT AN EV STATION ON OUR SITE.

EXCUSE ME.

ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I, I DO.

NO, YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.

, YOU TOOK MY QUESTIONS.

SO THIS EVENING, AND IN THE LAST TIME WE MET AND HAD A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT SAM'S PAYS FOUR, $514,000 A YEAR IN PROPERTY TAXES.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THAT THERE, THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT YOU MAY LEAVE AND WE WOULD LOSE THE $514,000.

THAT $514,000

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IS BASED ON ASSESSMENT THAT IS PUT ON THE PROPERTY BY OUR TOWN ASSESSOR.

ARE YOU MAKING A REPRESENTATION TO THIS BOARD THAT THAT ASSESSMENT IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT AND THEREFORE THE TAXES ON THAT PROPERTY ARE LEGITIMATELY $514,000 AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS? I UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE QUESTION AND, AND, AND, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT, THAT THE RESPONSE THAT I GIVE YOU AS A REAL ESTATE LAWYER, NOT AS A TAX LAWYER, WILL BE SUFFICIENT.

THAT, UM, THERE IS A, UH, IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS, UM, PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE HOMEOWNERS OR THEY'RE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, THEY, THEY CHALLENGE ASSESS VALUES OF PROPERTY FOR PURPOSES OF, UM, ASCERTAINING THE CORRECT TAX RATE.

AND, UM, THERE IS AN ACTIVE, UH, APPEAL OF OUR TAX ASSESSMENT THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEING HANDLED BY A SEPARATE ATTORNEY, A TAX LAWYER.

I JUST LEARNED OF THIS RECENTLY.

UM, AND THAT SPANS A PERIOD OF SIX YEARS.

IT'S BEEN ONGOING.

AND BY BELIEVE THAT THE NEXT COURT DATE ON THAT MATTER IS DECEMBER 5TH.

UM, I WOULD ALSO TELL YOU THAT I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SPEAKING WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR.

I HOPE HE'S HERE TONIGHT, IS A VERY, SHE A, A REAL GENTLEMAN.

SHE, SHE IS A, SHE, SHE, SHE, EXCUSE ME.

SHE, UH, UH, UH, I'M SORRY.

I COULDN'T TELL.

I I JUST DO HAVE TO, I INTERJECT THAT IT, AND I, YOU MADE AN ASSUMPTION AND, AND I APOLOGIZE.

UH, WE REJECT THIS, WOULD THAT MEAN THAT YOU'LL GO OUTTA BUSINESS? IF WE, YOU KNOW, I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, IS THIS LIKE A MAKE OR BREAK, UM, DECISION FOR, UM, FOR, FOR YOUR COMPANY? AND IF, UH, YOU FEEL THAT IT IS A HARDSHIP, WOULD YOU BE, UM, WILLING TO PROVIDE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, WITH SOME DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW WHY THERE IS FINANCIAL DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW THAT THERE REALLY IS A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP? BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONTACTED ME, UM, AND AGAIN, I'M JUST REPEATING WHAT RESIDENTS CALLED ME ABOUT, SAID, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF THIS IS, IF SAM'S IS REALLY HURTING, NOT DOING GREAT FINANCIALLY, I PROBABLY WOULD SAY YES.

I'M NOT SURE HOW I, I ASSUME YOU DIDN'T MEET HER.

YOU SPOKE, YOU BELIEVE THAT THE TAX ASSESSOR ALSO TOLD ME THAT THERE ARE 900 OTHER ACTIVE CHALLENGES TO TAX ASSESSMENTS IN THIS TOWN.

AND SO MY ANSWER TO YOU IS, I THINK IT'S DONE IN A NORMAL COURSE BY COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AND, AND REAL PROPERTY OWNERS.

UH, AND MY, MY ONLY RESPONSE TO THAT IS THE OTHER 900 OR SO, WHATEVER NUMBER IT IS, THEY'RE NOT COMING BEFORE THE BOARD AND MAKING REPRESENTATION THAT, LOOK, WE DO A GOOD THING IN THAT WE PAY $514,000 A YEAR AT THE SAME TIME THAT THEY'RE TRYING, TRYING TO CLAIM, OR THEY ARE, I GUESS YOU'RE TRYING TO CLAIM, UH, THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE PAYING.

WE SHOULD BE PAYING LESS.

NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE MAKING A REPRESENTATION.

AND LET ME JUST INTERJECT THAT YOUR ANSWER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

UH, I'M NOT MAKING ANY REPRESENTATION OF HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT MY VOTE.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, MY REPRESENTATION IS FACTUALLY CORRECT.

WE HAVE PAID THAT SUM OF MONEY $514,000 THIS YEAR AND THAT, AND, AND BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE TAX BILLS IN FRONT OF ME, I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE FIVE 14 PLUS OR MINUS WAS PAID FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.

I KNOW OUR TAXES ARE PAID 100%.

I'VE CONFIRMED THAT WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR.

SO MY REPRESENTATION IS CORRECT.

WE HAVE PAID IT PERIOD, SEPARATE AND APART FROM US PAYING THAT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, THERE IS AN ONGOING, UH, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE CORRECT PROCEEDING, ARY TERTIARY PROCEEDING TO DETERMINE IF OUR ASSESSMENT IS, IS ACCURATE.

AND THERE COULD BE, I ASSUME THERE COULD BE SEVERAL RESULTS, RIGHT? ONE IS THAT OUR, THAT THE ASSESSMENT IS CORRECT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR EXISTING TAX LIABILITY.

ANOTHER IS ASSESSMENT IS NOT CORRECT AND OUR TAXES WOULD BE REDUCED.

AND ANOTHER IS THAT THERE'S A SETTLEMENT.

BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS IS THE SUBJECT OF TONIGHT'S HEARING, OTHER THAN I WOULD SAY THAT WE'VE PAID OUR TAXES AND THIS IS DONE IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS.

ALRIGHT? BUT, BUT, AND THIS IS THE LAST COMMENT I'M GONNA MAKE ON THIS, IS, YES, YOU PAID THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR A REFUND OF PART OF IT.

AND I, I WOULD THINK THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A REPRESENTATION THAT WE PAID 514, IT'S IN DISPUTE, BUT WE BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A REDUCTION THAT'S GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION OR WHATEVER, UH, AS OPPOSED TO ME DOING SOME CHECKING AND FINDING OUT THAT THAT NUMBER MAY NOT BE THE NUMBER THAT YOU'LL ULTIMATELY HAVE PAID OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS.

'CAUSE YOU'RE ASKING FOR A REFUND FOR PART OF IT.

AND IT'S, THE ONLY THING I'M TRYING TO DO IS TO JUST RIGHT.

NO, I I UNDER, I UNDERSTAND AND I THINK THAT IF ONE WERE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE, HOW MUCH MONEY AND REAL DOLLARS HAVE BEEN PAID TO THE TOWN AND REAL ESTATE TAX OBLIGATION, THE NUMBER WOULD BE STAGGERING.

AND SO AS A FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILMAN SHEENS, UM, YOU KNOW, QUESTION, UM, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TELL US, YOU KNOW, HOW THE SAM'S CLUB IN ELMSFORD IS DOING COMPARED TO OTHER SAM'S CLUBS AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTRY FINANCIALLY? ARE YOU MAKING PROFITS IF,

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ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, VERY SIGNIFICANT PROFIT, THEN WHY SHOULD WE TAKE, WHY SHOULD THE TOWN BOARD TAKE ACTION THAT COULD FORCE SOME GAS STATIONS AND SMALL BUSINESSES OUT, POSSIBLY OUT OF BUSINESS? SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD COMMENT ON.

WELL, SO, SO HERE, SO THE, HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE ANSWER THAT I'D, I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH.

UM, I I, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE BUSINESS NUMBERS AND I WOULD HAVE TO CONFER WITH THE CLIENT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF INFORMATION THAT COULD BE DISCLOSED, UH, KNOWING FULL WELL THAT IT'S A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE, UH, AND THAT IT'S SUBJECT TO FREEDOM OF INFORMATION.

AND THAT INFORMATION COULD BE BEYOND DELIVERY JUST TO THE TOWN BOARD.

UM, SO THAT'S A BUSINESS ISSUE, BUT I'LL, I'LL CERTAINLY WILLINGLY SPEAK TO MY CLIENT AND CONVEY THEY'LL SEE THE TAPE AND THEY'LL UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE.

AND I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO, UH, THE TOWN ATTORNEY ON THAT ISSUE, UH, WITH YOU.

I WILL SAY TO YOU ALSO THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU, WE HAVE REAL QUANTITATIVE NUMBERS OF EXISTING STORES, WHETHER THEY BE WALMART STORES, SAM'S CLUB STORES, BJ'S STORES, OR OTHER EXAMPLES WHERE THERE ARE TWO BIG BOX STORES, IN FACT ON THE SAME ROAD.

AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE GAS STATIONS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT BJ'S IN YORKTOWN, THERE'S AN EXXON STATION UP THE STREET AND A GULF STATION DOWN THE STREET JUST PAST MCDONALD'S THAT'S BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR THE LAST FIVE OR SEVEN YEARS SINCE GAS WAS A GAS WAS ADDED THERE.

AND THAT'S, I HAVE EMPIRICAL DATA.

SO ANYONE WHO SAYS, YOU'RE GONNA PUT ME OUTTA BUSINESS, AND I'VE BEEN HEARING THIS FOR OVER A YEAR, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ONE PIECE OF SUBSTANTIVE EVIDENCE THAT WAS THE RESULT THAT PUT THEM OUTTA BUSINESS.

AND I WOULD SAY TO YOU THIS, THAT A LOT OF THE PROFITS THAT THESE GAS STATION OWNERS DERIVE ARE FROM THEIR CONVENIENCE STORES.

AND WE ARE NOT COMPETING WITH THEIR CONVENIENCE STORES.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET TO THE NUMBERS, FIND OUT IN THEIR BOOKS WHAT DERIVES THEIR PROFITS, WHERE THEY COME FROM, AND WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF CONVENIENCE STORE PROFITS VERSUS GAS PROFITS.

AND I WILL TELL YOU ALSO THIS, THAT OUR ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT WITHIN A ONE TO FIVE MILE RADIUS, 91.6 TO 99 PLUS PERCENT OF PEOPLE THAT BUY GAS AT THE EXISTING STATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO BUY GAS AT THE EXISTING STATIONS BASED ON OUR STORES AND THE PURCHASING FROM OUR MEMBERS AT OTHER STORES.

I'VE GIVEN YOU THAT INFORMATION.

CAN YOU JUST REMIND US, UM, YOU SAID IT WAS 87 PERCENTAGE OF YOUR STORES THAT DO THAT HAS GAS? CORRECT.

SO THE REMAINING, HOW COME THEY DO NOT HAVE GAS AT THIS TIME? UH, EITHER WE ARE IN MUNICIPALITIES THAT DON'T PERMIT GAS, UM, OR THEY'RE FRINGE MARKET SITES.

UM, THEY MAY BE SITES THAT ARE CLOSING.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THAT EVERY SINGLE MARKET THAT WE ARE IN THAT DOES NOT ALLOW GAS, WE SEEK AND WORK WITH REAL ESTATE BROKERS FOR OTHER SITES IN THAT EXACT SAME MARKET THAT ARE GAS ENTITLED.

SO THE CONCERN, SO THIS IS NOT, I'LL JUST SAY THE CONCERN THAT WE, THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE A BIG ENTITY.

OH, AM I NOT? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YEAH.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE, ALTHOUGH YOU ARE, ALTHOUGH YOU ARE A BIG ENTITY, CLEARLY 'CAUSE YOU HAVE DOCUMENTATION, BUT THEN I HAVE MY SMALL BUSINESSES, WHICH WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH TO, TO STAY AFLOAT.

SO THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT I HAVE.

UM, BECAUSE LOOK AT THE ECONOMY THAT WE'RE IN NOW, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE, WE ARE DEFINITELY STRUGGLING AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU PLAY FAIR IN THE SANDBOX, IF YOU WILL.

THAT WITH THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE WITH SMALL BUSINESSES.

AND IT'S, IT'S CONCERNING

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I MEAN, TAKE A LOOK AT OUR CORRIDORS NOW, CENTRAL AVENUE, UM, HILLSIDE, UH, UH, TERRYTOWN ROAD, ALL THE CLOSURES THAT WE HAVE DUE TO PANDEMICS AND EVERYTHING, THERE'S A CONCERN THAT IF THIS COMES IN, THIS COULD CHALLENGE THE SMALL BUSINESSES.

SO I, IT'S, I KNOW THERE'S NO GUARANTEES.

YOU CAN'T SAY, WELL, COUNCILMAN JACKSON, I CAN GUARANTEE THAT THE 35 BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE HERE WILL STAY AFLOAT AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT.

BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I AND I, AND I, AND I CLEARLY, CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS YOUR BUSINESS MODEL, BUT AS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR BUSINESS MODEL, ARE WE TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT THE EFFECTS WILL BE TO OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS? YEAH.

UM, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT'S A VERY FAIR AND THOUGHT OUT QUESTION.

IT'S GENUINE.

AND I, UM, I, I CERTAINLY RELATE TO THE QUESTION AND THE ANSWER THAT I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH IS, PLEASE TAKE A DETAILED LOOK AT OUR JULY 28TH, 2021 SUBMISSION WHERE WE LOOKED HEAVILY INTO THE EXISTING GAS STATION BUSINESS OPERATIONS, AND ALSO LOOK AT OUR, I BELIEVE IT'S OUR APRIL, I'LL HAVE TO GET IT AND HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

UM, UH, IT WAS IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN APRIL SUBMISSION WHERE WE LOOKED INTO, UH, EXISTING GAS STATIONS IN PROXIMITY TO BIG BOX RETAILERS THAT HAVE ADDED GAS.

, NONE OF THEM WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.

THE OTHER GAS STATIONS, THEY ARE ALL ALONG THE ROOTS MM-HMM.

IN THE EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE.

SOME OF THEM MULTIPLE AND SOME OF THEM FOR MORE THAN A DECADE MM-HMM.

AND SO I BELIEVE THAT ALTHOUGH THERE IS AN EMOTIONAL PLEA THAT THIS COULD HURT OUR DOCUMENTATION SHOWS BASED ON OUR EXAMPLES, REAL WORLD EXAMPLES.

, THAT IS JUST NOT THE CASE.

AND AGAIN, OUR GAS STATION PROPOSAL WILL NOT AFFECT THE CONVENIENCE STORE ASPECT OF THE EXISTING GAS STATIONS BECAUSE, AND THOSE GAS STATIONS DERIVE SIGNIFICANT PROFITS FROM THEIR CONVENIENCE STORES.

SO A, AGAIN, AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA SAY I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THE ISSUE, BUT JUST ONE MORE LAST COMMENT.

WHEN YOU DID YOUR ANALYSIS ON THAT IT DID NOT AFFECT THE SMALL BUSINESS OR DIDN'T AFFECT THEIR GAS, WHAT, WHAT TIMEFRAME WAS THAT? WAS THAT DURING PANDEMIC AFTER PANDEMIC? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, AS WE ARE TRYING TO RECOVER, HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW CURRENT ARE THE, THE, HOW CURRENT IS THAT INFORMATION? UM, THE ANALYSIS WAS PROVIDED WITHIN THE LA AGAIN, WE MADE A SUBMISSION IN JULY AND WE MADE A SUBMISSION MONTHS, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE THAT MM-HMM.

SINCE OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

I, LAST TIME I WAS HERE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING WAS MARCH 11TH.

AND THEN THE WORLD KIND OF COLLAPSED WITH, WITH, I STOOD AT THIS PONY MARCH 11TH, 2020.

2020.

2020.

AND THEN THERE WERE, UM, SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AFTER THAT.

AND THEN, UM, AS A RESULT OF, UH, CONTINUED DIALOGUE, THERE WERE SUPPLEMENTAL SUBMISSIONS AND THE SUBMISSIONS LOOKED AT IN DEPTH THESE TYPES OF ISSUES.

, UM, SPECIFICALLY THESE ISSUES.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF, UH, BJ'S OR A SAM'S CLUB OR A WALMART OPENED UP GAS AND PROVIDED GAS MM-HMM.

AT THEIR LOCATION, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT EXISTING GAS STATION OWNERS? MM-HMM.

AND THEIR OPERATIONS.

AND THE ONLY DATA THAT WE COULD GET WAS THAT THOSE EXISTING GAS STATIONS ARE STILL OPERATING TODAY, SOMETIMES 10 YEARS LATER, FIVE YEARS LATER.

AND WE HAVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES THAT WE PROVIDED TO THE BOARD.

AND ON THAT BASIS, THE CLAIM THAT WILL PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS IS COMPLETELY UNFOUNDED.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WANTED TO KIND OF DRILL DOWN ON THE ANALYSIS.

SO WE WANTED TO TRULY REALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND SO WE COULD PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH THE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY GAS FROM SAM'S CLUB AND HOW DOES THAT NUMBER IMPACT THE POPULATION THAT IS PRESENTLY AVAILABLE TO BUY GAS AT THOSE EXISTING STATIONS? SO WHAT WE DID IS WE DID AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OF OUR MEMBERSHIP AT OTHER CLUBS, AND WE PREPARED A BUYING RADIUS OF LE LESS THAN A MILE, A MILE TO THREE A, THREE TO FIVE AND BEYOND FIVE.

AND WE ADDED THE POPULATIONS OF OUR MEMBERS AND THE GENERAL POPULATION IN THE TABLES.

IT'S ALL PROVIDED.

AND OUR CONCLUSION WAS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF EXISTING PEOPLE IN THE TOWN, WHETHER IT BE LESS THAN A MILE RADIUS MM-HMM.

ALL THE WAY UP TO MORE THAN FIVE MILE RADIUS WILL CONTINUE BUYING GAS AT THE GAS STATIONS, NOT SAM'S CLUB.

AND THAT IS BETWEEN 91 AND 99% OF EXISTING CUSTOMERS WILL CONTINUE TO BUY THEIR GAS AT THE EXISTING STATIONS.

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AND I MIGHT JUST SAY THIS MM-HMM.

THAT EVER SINCE I STOOD HERE IN MARCH, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ONE DOCUMENT THAT WAS QUANTITATIVE THAT SUPPORTED HOW WE WOULD PUT ANYONE OUT OF BUSINESS.

IT'S ALL EMOTIONAL AND IT'S ALL UNFOUNDED.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S MARCH, 2020.

I JUST WANT TO YES.

MARCH 11TH, 20.

I JUST WANNA KEEP THE RECORD CLEAR.

I JUST, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION.

I GUESS, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT AND SOMEONE HELPED ME OUT HERE.

THAT ANALYSIS WAS DONE PRIOR TO MARCH, 2020.

THE ANALYSIS WAS, CONTINUOUS ANALYSIS HAS BEEN SINCE MARCH OF 2020.

JUST BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND.

AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, SO I APOLOGIZE MM-HMM.

FIRST.

, LOOK AT JULY 28TH, 2021.

, THERE WAS ANALYSIS DONE ON APRIL THE SECOND OF 2020 THAT PROVIDED YOU WITH SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.

BJ'S, YORKTOWN, UH, COSTCO, NEW ROCHELLE, SAM'S CLUB IN MIDDLETOWN, BJ'S COSTCO, FEDERAL ROAD IN BROOKFIELD, WHERE NOT ONLY IS THERE COSTCO GAS, BUT THERE'S BJ'S GAS AND THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING SINCE 2012 AND 2013 RESPECTIVELY.

AND THE EXISTING GAS STATIONS ARE STILL OPERATING.

IF YOU LOOK AT COSTCO, KNEW ROCHELLE, THERE ARE FIVE EXISTING GAS STATIONS IN PROXIMITY TO COSTCO.

AND THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING SINCE GAS WAS INTRODUCED IN 2012.

IF YOU LOOK AT BJ'S, YORKTOWN GAS SERVICE STARTED THERE IN 2017.

EXXON AND GULF IS STILL OPERATING SINCE 2017.

AND SO THIS GOES ON AND ON.

THAT'S APRIL 2ND, 2020.

WE ALSO PROVIDED, I'M SORRY, IF I COULD JUST INTERRUPT 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA KEEP DATA, DATA JUST JUMPS OUT AT ME.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE ARE GAS STATIONS THAT ARE STILL OPERATING.

WHAT WOULD REALLY BE AN INFORMATIVE NUMBER IS HOW MANY WENT OUTTA BUSINESS.

IT'S ONE THING FOR YOU TO SAY THAT THERE'S AN EXXON THAT'S STILL THERE WHILE ALL THESE OTHER, YOU KNOW, BIG BOX STORES HAVE GAS.

SO, BUT, BUT HOW MANY, HOW MANY DID EXIST PRIOR TO THE GAS GOING IN AND HOW MANY ARE THERE NOW? OKAY, SO I, THE, THE ANSWER I CAN GIVE YOU RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE EXXON AND THE GULF STATION IN YORKTOWN IN PROXIMITY TO BJ'S PREDATES THEIR GAS AND THEY ARE STILL OPERATING.

UH, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A PROPOSAL ACROSS THE STREET FROM, IT WAS, MAYBE IT'S A MOBILE, EXCUSE ME, I BELIEVE IT'S A MOBILE NEAR THE TACONIC STATE PARKWAY.

UM, RIGHT UP THE STREET FROM BJ'S, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL FOR ANOTHER BIG BOX RETAILER TO LOCATE ACROSS THE STREET AND PROVIDE GAS.

AND THAT WAS DEFEATED.

BUT BJ'S DOWN THE STREET HAS GAS AND THOSE TWO GAS STATIONS DIDN'T GO OUTTA BUSINESS.

AND I THINK AT LEAST IT'S A TESTAMENT TO SAY TO SAM'S CLUB, WE'VE DONE THE ANALYSIS THAT SHOWS THAT OVER A PERIOD OF, IN EXCESS OF A DECADE, IN CERTAIN EXAMPLES, EXISTING GAS STATIONS THAT OPERATED BEFORE GAS WAS PUT IN BY THE BIG BOP RETAILERS CONTINUE TO OPERATE.

AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT AS AN EXAMPLE OF SAYING THEY'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE THE GAS WAS ADDED AND THEY'RE THERE TODAY AFTER THE GAS WAS ADDED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ONE WOULD GO ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TODAY, GOING THROUGH TAX RECORDS THAT IT COULD BE THREE TO FIVE OR 10 OR 20 YEARS OLD.

WAS THERE A GAS STATION? I WOULDN'T KNOW.

BUT FOR THE NEW EXXON THAT THERE WAS AN EXPRESS STATION THERE BEFORE, WHICH WAS A NIGHTMARE AND NOT WELL MAINTAINED BEFORE IT WAS REDEVELOPED.

BUT HOW DOES ONE FIND OUT THAT A STORE OR A GAS STATION THAT WAS ONCE AT A LOCATION IS NO LONGER AT THAT LOCATION AND THEN FIND THE NEXUS TO SAY THE PRECIPITATING REASON WHY THEY'RE CLOSED WAS BECAUSE BJ'S OR SAM'S CLUB AT WALMART PROVIDED GAS.

WHEN I'M GIVING YOU QUANTITATIVE EMPIRICAL DATA THAT SHOWS YOU CAN'T SUPPORT THAT CONCLUSION.

SO MR. KENDRA, BUT YOU, YOU SPOKE FOR A WHILE AND I, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK, SO MAYBE WE SHOULD GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP OF COURSE.

SO, UM, DO WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK? YES.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

WE DO.

WE HAVE ABOUT 20 REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

JUST F Y I TO EVERYONE .

SO IS STEPHAN MAFIA HERE? STEFAN? OKAY.

ARE YOU FIRST OR IS IT MR. BUNTING? STEPHAN IS MR. BUNTING? I HAVE STEPHAN FIRST.

CAN SPEAK.

ARE YOU STEPHAN? NO, I'M, I'M GERALD BUNTING.

I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR THE, OH YEAH.

MR. BUNTING WAS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK FIRST.

I, I BELIEVE, OH, WELL ACTUALLY THIS IS THE FIRST

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REQUEST I RECEIVED.

ARE YOU STEP? NO, I'M NOT, BUT I JUST, OKAY.

YOU'RE SIGN.

YOU MAY SIGN UP, MR. BUNTING.

THAT'S FINE.

SO THE NEXT PERSON THAT I HAVE, THE NEXT PERSON IN, IN THE ORDER I'M TAKING, AND THEN THE ORDER IN WHICH REQUEST CAME TO ME, THE NEXT PERSON IS WERE JUDITH.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA HEAR FROM MS I SPOKE TO MR. BUNTING FIRST AND IT WAS ESTABLISHED THAT HE WOULD SPEAK FIRST ON BEHALF OF THE GAS STATION.

THE ATTORNEY REPRESENTING MANY OF THEM.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I WASN'T INFORMED OF THAT.

UM, I'M FOLLOWING THE ORDER.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

IN WHICH PEOPLE HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR NAMES TO ME.

SO SINCE MR. MAFIAA IS NOT RESPONDING, WHY DON'T WE, THEN WE WILL GO TO JUDITH.

AND MR. BUNTING, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU START, I JUST WANNA TELL EVERYBODY, UM, THAT WE HAVE A STENOGRAPHER HERE, THAT THEY SHOULD SPEAK SLOWLY, THAT EVERYBODY HAS FIVE MINUTES, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE ENTIRE FIVE MINUTES.

THE BOARD IS VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY OF THAT AND TO BE RESPECTFUL TO BOTH SIDES AS THEY SPEAK.

AND LOSSES MEASURED IN PENNIES, BUT THEY REALLY ADD UP.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS GERALD BUNTING.

I'M AN ATTORNEY FOR THE GAS STATION OWNERS THAT ARE ASSEMBLED HERE TODAY.

ALSO, APPEARING WITH ME REMOTELY IS MY COLLEAGUE DEAN SUMMERS OF YOUNG AND SUMMERS, UM, A LAW FIRM BASED IN ALBANY, NEW YORK.

THE FIRST THING I'M GOING TO DO IS SUGGEST THAT THIS HEARING BE POSTPONED.

WE FIRST LEARNED THAT THIS MATTER WAS GONNA BE ON ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, AND I ASKED MYSELF WHAT PRECIPITATED THIS SUDDENLY APPEARING ON THE CALENDAR.

SO I WENT TO THE FILE FOR THIS, UH, PROJECT, UH, TO SEE WHAT HAD BEEN SUBMITTED RECENTLY AND I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING.

AND THAT WAS ON THE 29TH OF OCTOBER.

UH, THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, I FILED A FOIA REQUEST, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN RESPONDED TO, AND I CHECKED AGAIN, UH, MIDDLE OF THE WEEK AND THERE WAS STILL NOTHING.

I CALLED THE TOWN THIS MONDAY AND I WAS TOLD, OH NO, THERE ARE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED SINCE LAST YEAR.

WELL, IT TURNS OUT THEY WERE, THIS DOCUMENT ON THE UPDATE, UH, DATED JULY 28TH OF THIS YEAR WAS ONLY PUT ON THE WEBSITE MONDAY AFTERNOON, WHICH HAS GIVEN US ALL ABOUT 48 HOURS TO GET READY FOR THIS HEARING.

COUNSEL FOR SAM'S CLUB STATED THAT COMPETITION IS ESSENTIAL TO OUR DEMOCRACY.

I DISAGREE.

EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW IS ESSENTIAL FOR OUR DEMOCRACY, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT.

IF ANY OF OUR STATION OWNERS CAME TO YOU AND SAID, MY BUSINESS MODEL HAS CHANGED, I WANT YOU TO CHANGE YOUR TOWN'S ZONING LAW.

WE KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WOULD BE ON THAT.

WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS.

IT IS ILLEGAL SPOT ZONING TO BENEFIT ONE PROPERTY OWNER IN THIS TOWN TO THE DETRIMENT OF MANY OTHERS.

THESE ARE ALL INDEPENDENT BUSINESS PEOPLE.

MANY OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE MINORITY OWNED AND FAMILY RUN.

AND THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THOSE STATIONS LIVE HERE.

THE PROPOSAL CONTAINS VERY PROBLEMATIC STUDIES THAT ARE OUT OF DATE.

THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS OUT OF DATE.

AND THE FLOOD STUDY, WHICH SAID THIS SAM'S CLUB PARKING LOT DOESN'T FLOOD NEEDS TO BE UPDATED BECAUSE DURING THE SUMMER STORMS PART OF THAT PARKING LOT WHERE THE GAS IS PROPOSED WAS UNDERWATER.

I HOPE THAT THIS BOARD WILL NOT SUBMIT TO CORPORATE BLACKMAIL WHEN THEY SAY, WELL, IF WE DON'T GET OUR WAY, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE AND YOU'RE GONNA LOSE THE TAX DOLLARS.

WELL, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.

IF YOU TOTAL UP THE TAXES THAT THESE BUSINESSES PAY, IT'S A LOT MORE THAN WHAT SAM'S CLUB PAYS.

THE ECONOMIC ARGUMENT THAT THEY ADVANCED IS SELF-SERVING.

WE HAVE PROVIDED STUDIES BY ACADEMICS.

ACADEMICS NOT EMPLOYED BY US, NOT EMPLOYED BY SAM'S CLUB.

THESE ACADEMIC STUDIES HAVE FOUND THAT THERE IS INDEED A SERIOUS HARM THAT IS CAUSED BY A A BOX STORE SUDDENLY HAVING GAS.

THESE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY AND THEY'LL TESTIFY THAT YOU DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THEIR BUSINESS.

OKAY? WHEN YOU HAVE A GAS STATION AND YOU'RE BRANDED AS A SUNOCO, OKAY, YOU HAVE TO SIGN A SUPPLY DEAL WITH SUNOCO, IT IS A 10 YEAR DEAL, A 15 YEAR DEAL.

THERE ARE MINIMUM GALLONS THAT YOU MUCH MUST PURCHASE EACH YEAR.

UM, THIS IS A BUSINESS, THE GAS BUSINESS, YOUR PROFITS

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WHEN YOU SIGN A SUPPLY AGREEMENT, YOU HAVE A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF AMOUNT OF GALLONS THAT YOU HAVE TO BUY ANNUALLY.

IT'S GENERALLY STATED ON A MONTHLY BASIS, BUT IT'S AVERAGED OUT ANNUALLY.

IF YOU DON'T BUY YOUR ANNUAL GALLONS, YOU'RE PENALIZED.

OKAY? FIRST OF ALL, SUNOCO IS GONNA RAISE THE PRICE THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR GAS.

YOU MIGHT BE PAYING AT WHOLESALE, WHAT WE SAY, RACK PRICE PLUS 2 CENTS PLUS DELIVERY.

BUT IF YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR GALLONS, SUNOCO COULD MAKE THAT RACK PLUS FIVE PLUS DELIVERY THAT DRIVES UP YOUR COSTS.

YOU'RE BEING PENALIZED AND THE PRICE OF THE PUMP GOES UP DRIVING AWAY EVEN MORE CUSTOMERS, IF YOU GO OUTTA BUSINESS AND YOU HAVEN'T DONE YOUR GALLONS, YOU HAVE TO PAY A PENALTY.

YOU HAVE TO PAY A PENALTY OF LIQUIDATED DAMAGES FOR ALL THE UNSOLD GAS.

AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, SUNOCO IS JUST AS BIG AS SAM'S CLUB MAY BE BIGGER.

AND WITH SUNOCO, THEY DON'T CARE THAT YOU'RE GOING OUTTA BUSINESS OR THAT YOUR SALES HAVE DROPPED BECAUSE OF UNFAIR COMPETITION FROM A BOX STORE.

UM, YOU'RE GONNA PAY THE PENALTY.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THESE PEOPLE OVER HERE, IT'S NOT JUST THE CORPORATION THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT'S GONNA PAY THE PENALTY.

THEY ALL HAVE TO SIGN PERSONAL GUARANTEES ON THE MONEY.

THIS IS A VERY REAL HARM.

THIS IS A VERY REAL CONCERN.

IT'S NOT JUST AN EMOTIONAL APPEAL.

IT IS A RATIONAL LEGAL AND BUSINESS REALITY THAT THEY CONFRONT.

AND BELIEVE ME, DURING THE PANDEMIC, WHEN THE SALES OF GAS SIMPLY DROPPED TO VIRTUALLY NOTHING, THERE WAS REAL CONCERN IN THIS COMMUNITY.

FORTUNATELY, THERE WAS FORCED MAJEURE CLAUSES IN THEIR AGREEMENTS AND THE MAJOR OIL COMPANIES SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE UNDERSTAND THERE REALLY IS A CRISIS.

YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR GALLONS.

WE'RE GONNA LET YOU OFF THE HOOK FOR NOW.

BUT GUESS WHAT, WE'RE BACK TO BUSINESS AS USUAL.

IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH OF A DROP IN SALES, OKAY? FOR THAT TO BE TRIGGERED.

UM, IT'S, YOU'RE LIVING ON A RAZOR'S EDGE IN TERMS OF YOUR MARGINS.

SO IT IS PARTICULARLY GALLING WHEN SOMEBODY COMES AND SAYS THEIR ECONOMIC CONCERNS.

THAT'S JUST EMOTIONAL.

BUT OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT.

IT'S THE SAME THING.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR MONEY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAM'S CLUB WANTING TO MAKE MONEY, AND WE HAVE A TOWN BOARD THAT'S BEING BLACKMAILED BY THE INTIMATION THAT HEY, WE MIGHT JUST PICK UP, YOU KNOW, MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND YOU'RE GONNA LOSE ALL THAT MONEY.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'LL FIND CHEAP LAND IN SCARSDALE AND RELOCATE THERE, WHO KNOWS? BUT THE THING IS THAT THESE ARE REAL CONCERNS AND I THINK BASED ON ONLY HAVING SAM'S CLUB'S DOCUMENTS FOR 48 HOURS, THAT WE REALLY NEED MORE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS.

THEY NEED MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I ASK YOU TO ADJOURN THIS MATTER IN THE INTEREST OF JUSTICE AND EQUALITY.

SAM'S CLUB WAS GIVEN A YEAR AND A HALF TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR DOCUMENTS, ALL THANK YOU, TO PROVIDE SELF-SERVING STUDIES.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SIMILAR CONS CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

SO, UH, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR ORDER IN WHICH YOU NOPE, NOW YOU'RE FREE TO.

ALL RIGHTY.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

MR. CARD.

WILL YOU NEXT.

SO I NOTICED THAT, I NOTICED THAT STEPHAN MAFIAA HAD REQUESTED TO SPEAK VIA ZOOM.

CAN WE BRING HIM IN VIA ZOOM? WELL, JUDITH, I DO NOT SEE HIM ON ZOOM.

YOU DON'T? OKAY.

THEN THE NEXT, THE NEXT REQUEST.

REQUEST.

SO WE HAVE MR. CARINO, WHO'S, UH, ALSO REPRESENTING THE GAS STATION OWNERS.

OH, RIGHT.

SO WE CAN KIND TAKE AND HE JUST HAPPENS TO BE MASKED.

YOU NEED TO LEAVE YOUR MASK ON.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR MASK ON.

YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR MASK OFF.

FOR FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS VINCE FARINO, FARINO.

FARINO AND FARINO.

IT'S A D I'M SORRY, FARINO OF FERNANDINO AND ASSOCIATES.

STREET, RIGHT HERE IN ELMSFORD, RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD.

UH, STEVE MAFIAA, WHO YOU MENTIONED.

UH, JUDITH IS A, UH, MEMBER OF MY STAFF.

HE'S A PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND HE'S HOPING TO, AND WE HAVE TO START THE CLOCK.

VINCE, I'M SORRY.

HE'S HOPING TO JOIN US ON ZOOM, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

SO, OKAY.

FIRST OF ALL, GOOD EVENING, MR. SUPERVISOR MEMBERS, THE TOWN BOARD, UH, AS JUDITH INDICATED.

I'M VINCE FANDINO, UH, PRINCIPAL OF FANDINO AND ASSOCIATES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANTS WITH OFFICES AT, UH, TERRY ELM CORPORATE CENTER, THREE WEST MAIN

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AND WE HAVE BEEN RETAINED BY THE C P D GROUP OF NEW FALLS, NEW YORK AND ATLANTIS MANAGEMENT OF MOUNT VERNON, NEW YORK, BOTH GASOLINE STATION OWNERS IN GREENBURG, AS WELL AS OTHER STATION OWNERS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN TO PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL PLANNING AND TRAFFIC ADVICE.

WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSED SAM'S CLUB FUELING FACILITY AT 3 33, SAW RIVER ROAD IN THE TOWN.

AND YOU SEE HERE THIS EVENING, MR. SUPERVISOR MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, SEVERAL OF THOSE GASOLINE STATION OWNERS.

I'D LIKE THEM TO RAISE THEIR HAND RIGHT NOW.

PLEASE.

HOW MANY OF YOU WHO OWN GAS STATIONS IN THE TOWN LIVE IN THE TOWN? KEEP YOUR HANDS UP.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

VINCE, THAT DOESN'T DO MUCH FOR THE RECORD.

IF YOU WANNA HAVE THEM RAISE THEIR HANDS AND THEN YOU GIVE AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY HANDS WERE RAISED, THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE RECORD.

WE'RE A MULTIDISCIPLINARY CONSULTING FIRM PROVIDING PLANNING SERVICES TO MUNICIPALITIES, PRIVATE CORPORATIONS, NOT-FOR-PROFITS AND PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.

THERE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 20 OR SO GUEST GASOLINE STATION OWNERS.

ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT OF THEM, UH, ARE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, JUST VERY QUICKLY, AND I, AND I'M MAKING A RECORD, UH, SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE FIRM.

A RANGE OF EXPERTISE INCLUDES COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, LAND USE AND ZONING STUDIES, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, URBAN DESIGN, ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, REAL ESTATE MARKET ANALYSIS, AND SITE FEASIBILITY.

I AM A CERTIFIED PLANNER AND PRINCIPAL OF THE FIRM.

I FORMALLY SERVED AS COMMISSIONER OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF MOUNT VERNON AND THE TOWN OF GREENBURG A WHILE AGO, AND A CITY PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF PEACE SCHOOL, NEW YORK.

MY FIRM HAS WORKED EXTENSIVELY IN THE NEW YORK METRO AREA, INCLUDING THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, WHERE WE HELP PREPARE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE TOWN THAT IS CURRENTLY IN EFFECT, AS WELL AS CONDUCTING MANY CONTROVERSIAL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS FOR THE TOWN BOARD.

IN ADDITION, I'VE TESTIFIED AS AN EXPERT PLANNING WITNESS BEFORE NUMEROUS BOARDS AND AGENCIES AND THE COURTS.

I HAVE FIVE BRIEF POINTS TO MAKE WITH RESPECT TO THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE YOU AND MR. BUNTING AND THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, UM, ACTUALLY, UH, COVERED SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, BUT I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THEM FOR THE RECORD.

THE FIRST POINT IS THAT THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE YOU IS CONTRARY TO THE SUSTAINABILITY CHAPTER OF THE TOWN'S OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH MANDATES AMONG OTHER THINGS, THAT THERE BE A REDUCTION IN FOSSIL FUEL CONSUMPTION.

ADDING FUELING FACILITIES TO A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT IS CONTRARY TO THAT OBJECTIVE.

THE SECOND POINT THAT THE SUPERVISOR, UH, HIT UPON IS DOCUMENTATION WITH RESPECT TO THE POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS ON SAM'S CLUB, IF THEY DO NOT GET THE FUELING FACILITIES AS AN ADJUNCT TO THEIR SITE, WE SEE NO EVIDENCE IN THE TOWN RECORD TO SHOW ANY POTENTIAL ECONOMIC HARM TO SAM'S CLUB.

ONLY THAT BY ADDING THE FUEL FACILITIES WILL SAM'S BENEFIT AS PART OF THEIR ECONOMIC MODEL.

WE ASK THAT EVIDENCE BE PUT FORTH BY THE APPLICANT TO SUPPORT THIS CONTENTION, ESPECIALLY IN VIEW OF SAM'S THREAT TO VACATE THE PREMISES IF THE FUELING FACILITIES ARE NOT APPROVED.

WE'VE HEARD ABOUT COMPETITION THIS EVENING.

LET ME JUST STATE THAT COMPETITION PER SE, IS NOT AN ISSUE UNDER THE NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT.

HOWEVER, ADVERSE LAND USE AND SOCIO ECONOMIC IMPACTS ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF SAM'S BELOW MARKET RATE FUELING FACILITIES SUCCEED IN CONTRIBUTING TO THE EXISTING GAS STATIONS, DIS THE, UH, DOWNSIZING OF GOING OUTTA BUSINESS, THOSE PROPERTIES AND BUILDINGS WILL BECOME VACANT, THEREBY CONTRIBUTING REAL ESTATE AND SALES TAX AND JOB LOSSES, AS WELL AS PHYSICAL BLIGHT.

AND I'M USING THE TERM BLIGHT BECAUSE UNDER SEEKER, IF A PARTICULAR ACTIVITY, UH, AFFECTS BLIGHT IN THE TOWN, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF COMPETITION.

IT'S AN ISSUE OF SOCIOECONOMIC, UH, CHARACTER.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING TO SHOW WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL BE POTENTIAL BLIGHT IS FOR THE APPLICANT TO UNDERTAKE WHAT WE CALL A STANDARD COMMERCIAL CHARACTER ASSESSMENT.

AND GARRETT, OF COURSE, AS A PLANNER IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

BUT THAT ASSESSMENT WOULD DOCUMENT ANY POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE BUSINESSES ALONG SAWMILL RIVER ROAD AND ELSEWHERE IN THE TOWN.

SO, AS PART OF SEEKER AND THEIR DUE DOCUMENTATION, WE ARE ASKING THAT THEY UNDERTAKE A COMMERCIAL CHARACTER ASSESSMENT.

AND I BELIEVE MR. RIVA IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. P VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

UH, MR. MR. UH, BUNTING MENTIONED THE FACT THAT CERTAIN EXISTING STUDIES NEED TO BE UPDATED.

UH, THERE

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WERE TRAFFIC STUDIES UNDERTAKEN, THERE WERE DRAINAGE STUDIES UNDERTAKEN, AND LAST YEAR MY FIRM ACTUALLY PREPARED A CRITIQUE OF THE TRAFFIC AND PARKING STUDY.

WE'RE NOT CIVIL ENGINEERS.

WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY PLANNERS, BUT I HAVE AN A TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON STAFF.

AND, AND YOU'RE WRAPPING UP, RIGHT, MR. FE? BUT NOT, WE DID NOT SUBMIT THOSE REPORTS BECAUSE THE APPLICATION WAS SUSPENDED.

I'M LEAVING WITH, UH, THE, THE TOWN CLERK FOR THE TOWN BOARD COPIES OF THOSE STUDIES THAT WE DID LAST YEAR, WHICH IS BASICALLY A REVIEW OF THE APPLICANT'S WORK AND A REVIEW OF KIMLEY HORN'S WORK.

SO I WANT YOU TO SEE THAT, BUT TWO THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE LAST YEAR.

WELL, MR. MR, NOW YOU'RE GOING TOO FAR.

I CAN COME BACK, BUT YOU CAN COME BACK.

THESE ARE IMPORTANT.

WANNA STAY WITHIN OUR FIVE MINUTES AND WE APPRECIATE, I WILL COME BACK BECAUSE TWO MORE POINTS, BUT I WILL COME BACK.

THANK YOU, GREG.

JEFFS, IT'S JUST A REMINDER THAT EVERYONE SHOULD STAY WITHIN THEIR FIVE MINUTE SPEAKING PERIOD.

THANKS.

I'LL MAKE MY VERY SHORT.

SO YOU CAN PICK UP TWO OF MY MINUTES.

UH, MY NAME IS GREG JEFF.

UM, I'M ALSO A SAM'S CLUB, UH, MEMBER.

UM, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT.

UH, I'M ALSO A CUSTOMER THAT GOES TO THAT SITE.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THE HORRENDOUS PARKING SITUATION WHEN YOU, WHEN, AT LEAST WHEN I'VE BEEN THERE, UM, ON THE WEEKENDS ESPECIALLY, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT SAM'S CLUB IS ASKING TO REDUCE THE PARKING ON A FACILITY THAT NEEDS MORE PARKING.

IT, IT, IT, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER.

THE, THE TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD IN MANY OF MY TRAVELS UP AND DOWN THROUGH THE, ESPECIALLY DURING RUSH HOURS, IS A HORRIBLE MESS.

WE ALSO HAVE CONSTRUCTION GOING ACROSS THE STREET WITH A MAJOR SUPERMARKET IN THE CASE OF SHOPRITE.

SO WE HAVE TWO, UH, I WOULD CALL VERY ADVERSE SITUATIONS THAT'S OCCURRING ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

THIS FACILITY HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET.

IT'S BEING, IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WE SPEAK.

SO MY POINT BEING, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IF SAM'S CLUB, WHAT THEY OUGHT TO DO IS TAKE CARE OF THE EXISTING CUSTOMERS WITH THE EXISTING MODEL BEFORE THEY EVEN ATTEMPT TO ADD ADDITIONAL, UH, TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION TO THIS PLACE.

I TOOK A DRIVE THROUGH THERE BEFORE I EVEN COME HERE.

AND THIS IS A WEDNESDAY NIGHT.

THE LOT WAS PRETTY FULL.

THE PEOPLE PARKING IN THE FIRE LANE JUST SO THAT THEY CAN GET ACCESS TO THE STORE.

SO THIS IS REAL.

AND I JUST WANT THE TOWN TO ACTUALLY HAVE SAM CLUB TAKE CARE OF THE EXISTING CUSTOMER BASE AND PROVIDE PARKING FOR US AT EVERY LEVEL BECAUSE WE'RE GOING INTO THE CHRISTMAS SEASON AND IT'S GONNA BE EVEN MORE SHOPPING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST DYING TO GET OUT AND IT'S NOT THERE RIGHT NOW.

I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE SUBTRACTED FROM THAT.

AND THAT'S THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE.

SAL.

JAMAL OR JAMAL? JAMAL.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, UH, COUNCIL AND, UH, SUPERVISOR.

FINER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, I'M A GASOLINE, UH, OWNER AND, AND, UH, ELMSFORD, WE OWN TWO GAS STATIONS.

THEY MY COMPANY'S C P D ENERGY.

AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, HAVE YOU, UH, POSTPONE THIS MEETING.

'CAUSE WE, LIKE, LIKE MR. UH, BUNTING SAID WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PREPARE.

I MEAN, WE JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS.

YOU KNOW, I, I, I KNOW THAT THEY DELAYED AND THEY CANCELED, UH, THEIR SUBMISSION BACK IN MAY, UH, OF 2020.

BUT WE NEED MORE TIME BECAUSE A LOT OF THE POINTS THAT THE ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS SAM'S CLUB MADE ARE FALSE.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE OWN A STATION IN BROOKFIELD, CONNECTICUT.

WHEN BJ'S PUT THE GAS IN, WE WENT OUTTA BUSINESS.

AND WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE THAT THAT PROPERTY'S STILL SITTING VACANT RIGHT NOW.

SO YOUR YOUR POINTS WERE FALSE.

WELL, YOU GOTTA DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO POUND POINT.

JUST YEAH, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WANT HIM TO KNOW THAT HIS POINTS ARE FALSE AND WE HAVE EVIDENCE.

SO WHAT SAM'S CLUB IS TRYING TO DO HERE IS PUT 10 POUNDS IN A FIVE POUND BAG.

THERE'S NO WAY POSSIBLE THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TRAFFIC ON NINE A IF THEY PUT THAT GAS STATION.

AND I JUST WANNA BE SHORT AND SWEET AND JUST ASK YOU THE COUNCIL TO POSTPONE THIS MEETING TO GIVE US MORE TIME.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BE VOTING TONIGHT.

YOU SAYING THAT IF WE DO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, THAT YOU'LL BE PRESENTING EVIDENCE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE? NO, WE, WE NEED MORE TIME THAN, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NEXT MEETING IS, BUT WE, WE WILL NEED A, A LOT MORE TIME.

GOOD.

THANK, THERE'LL BE MORE TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

SO ARE

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WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AFTER THE HOLIDAYS WE DO HAVE EVIDENCE AND WHATEVER YOU NEED.

I MEAN, WHAT HA YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED WITH HURRICANE IDA.

THAT PARKING LOT WAS UNDERWATER.

NINE A WAS UNDERWATER.

AND SO WHATEVER THEY SUBMITTED PRE A TO IDA AND PRE PANDEMIC IS, IS NULL AND VOID.

NOW.

THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT NEW STUFF.

WE, WE NEED EVIDENCE THAT THEY NEED THE GAS OR ELSE THEY'RE GONNA GO OUTTA BUSINESS ALSO.

THIS IS NOT, THIS IS ALL A THREAT.

AND, AND, AND WE AS GAS STATION OWNERS, I HAVE A GAS STATION IN YORKTOWN HEIGHTS, OUR SALES ARE DOWN 40%.

IF I WASN'T A BIG ENOUGH COMPANY, I WOULD BE OUTTA BUSINESS.

THESE SINGLE STATION OPERATORS, IF THEIR BUSINESS IS DOWN 40%, THEY'RE OUTTA BUSINESS.

THAT'S THE POINT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE HERE.

I WANNA JUST CLARIFY, 'CAUSE I WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT YOU BACK TO THE MICROPHONE TO ANSWER FOR A QUESTION.

SURE.

YOU, YOU WENT ON TO SAY THEY NEED MORE EVIDENCE THEY CAN'T RELY ON, BUT I'M, I'M QUESTIONING WHAT DOCUMENTATION CAN YOU PROVIDE IF WE GIVE YOU MORE TIME TO, TO BRING IT TO US? WELL, UH, LIKE MR. BUNTING SAID, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THE MEETING WAS CLO WHEN THE HEARINGS WERE CLOSED AND POSTPONED IN MAY, 2020, OUR PAPERWORK THAT WE WERE SUBMITTING WAS NEVER TURNED INTO THE TOWN.

SO THAT'S WHY MR. BUNTING BROUGHT THAT PAPERWORK RIGHT HERE TO TURN INTO THE TOWN.

CAN I MAKE A S CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE AND YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM MORE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAKE A CASE.

YOU KNOW, AND ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY HERE SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF THEY WANT HER.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, MAKE A MOTION, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ADJOURN THE HEAR YOU KNOW, AFTER EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK, IF THEY WANNA SPEAK, THAT THE HEARING WOULD BE ADJOURNED TO THE SECOND MEETING IN, IN JANUARY.

THIS WAY, IF PEOPLE HERE FEEL THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, UH, UH, INFORMATION TO MAKE A, A PRESENTATION, THEY DON'T HAVE TO STAY FOR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HOURS BECAUSE THEY'LL KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE BACK.

THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, SOMETIME IN JANUARY.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT'S A REASONABLE, I I, YEAH, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, WE WERE THINKING THAT THAT WOULD BE MORE REASONABLE FOR US.

AND, AND LIKE I SAID, LISTEN, SAM'S CLAIMS THAT, OH, WE DID STUDIES AND THE GAS STATIONS DIDN'T GO OUT OF BUSINESS.

THEY NAMED TWO GAS STATIONS.

I HAVE A GAS STATION IN BROOKFIELD THAT WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AND I'M A LARGE COMPANY AND I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PROVE, OKAY.

SO TO PROVE.

SO WE UNDERSTAND.

WE UNDERSTAND, AND I SEE WE STOP THE CLOCK.

AND, AND THE SUPERVISOR IS, IS SORT OF SUGGESTING THAT THE HEARING AT SOME POINT IS GONNA BE ADJOURN.

FANTASTIC.

PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK AND BE REDUNDANT AND SAY THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU WERE SAYING.

SO WE GET THE MESSAGE.

BUT ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK, HAVING SAID THAT, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WOULD, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR EVERYBODY HERE TO KNOW WHAT THE BOARD'S GONNA DO? 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT WANNA STAY IF THEY KNOW THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE END OF JANUARY TO, YOU KNOW, TO SPEAK AGAIN.

SO WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT AFTER THIS HEARING, UH, AFTER EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK, HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK, THAT, UM, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WE WILL ADJOURN THE HEARING TILL THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY.

ANYONE? IS THAT OKAY? ALL IN FAVOR? I I HAVE A, I I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT THOUGH, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE SAME THING.

EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.

EXCUSE ME.

WE HAVE A MEETING GOING ON HERE.

WE, WE, THIS IS NEVER GONNA END.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A TIMELINE ON THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE WHATEVER DOCUMENTATION YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVEN'T SUBMITTED ALREADY, AND COME UP WITH A DATE, MAYBE, MAYBE BY THE, THE END OF THIS YEAR, PROVIDE THE EVERYONE ELSE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR AT LEAST TWO WEEKS AND THEN HAVE THIS HEARING, CONTINUE WHATEVER DOCUMENTATION YOU HAVE SO THAT WE DON'T COME BACK IN JANUARY AND PEOPLE GET UP AND SAY, I HAVE DOCUMENTATION.

I JUST DIDN'T HAVE A TIME TO PUT IT IN.

SO THAT, AT THAT, SO AT THAT, UM, SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, UM, WE WILL HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION AND WE COULD ACTUALLY THEN, YOU KNOW, MAKE A DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THAT'S FAIR.

SO WE MADE THE MOTION AS AMENDED.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR.

SO I JUST NEED TO GET THE WORDING OF

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THIS AMENDMENT.

I HAVE PAUL MOVE TO ADJOURN HEARING TO SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY.

I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

EVERYONE, WE CAN'T HEAR AND THE SONOGRAPHER CANNOT TAKE THE DOCUMENTATION.

SO IF WE CAN JUST QUIET PLEASE.

PAUL MOVED TO ADJOURN HEARING TO SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, 2022.

DIANA SECOND FRANCIS MOVED TO AMEND TO STIPULATE THAT FRANCIS, WHAT DO YOU SPECIFICALLY STIPULATE? THE, THE APPLICANT HAS UNTIL DECEMBER 30TH, UM, 31ST, I GUESS, UH, TO PROVIDE.

ARE YOU WILLING TO AGREE THAT ALL YOUR DOCUMENTATION'S ALREADY IN MAY? I GET TO MY, I'M NOT DONE YET.

WELL, I'M ANSWERING THE QUESTION, RIGHT? YES.

HOLD ON.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

I, I, ARE YOU DONE WITH ME SUPERVISOR? YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HAVE A CHANCE.

I, I, I, I, I THINK WHAT'S APPROPRIATE, IF I MAY SUGGEST IT, AT THE RISK OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SUBMITTED SIGNIFICANT DOCUMENTATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.

WE CAN, EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME, SIR, PLEASE, PLEASE.

WE'RE HAVING A HEARING.

THERE'S AN ACTUAL MEETING GOING ON HERE AND YOU, YOU NEED TO BE QUIET OR STEP OUTSIDE.

OTHERWISE WE, WE'LL, WE COULD, WE CAN MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.

YOU DON'T WANT US TO DO THAT.

WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT HOW DO WE HANDLE THIS? NOT HAVING THE MEETING, THE HEARING, UH, VOTED ON TONIGHT OR CLOSED TONIGHT.

IT'S IN YOUR INTEREST TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AND ALSO FOR OUR STENOGRAPHER TO GET AN ACCURATE RECORD BECAUSE THAT RECORD BECOMES EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN THE FUTURE.

UM, SO THANK, THANK YOU.

I'M JUST TRYING TO RESPOND TO SURE.

THE, YOUR AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.

MY RESPONSE IS THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED SIGNIFICANT DOCUMENTATION TO DATE TO THE TOWN BOARD, AND THAT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY SUBSTANTIVE DOCUMENTATION WHATSOEVER IN TERMS OF PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE GAS STATION OWNERS OR THEIR OBJECTIONS.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THE TOWN BOARD BELIEVES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN THIS PROCEEDING UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, WE WILL NEED TIME TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTATION THAT IT NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED BY THE GAS STATION OWNERS SO THAT WE CAN RESPOND TO THAT INFORMATION AT THE JANUARY 2ND MEETING IN JANUARY.

SO I'M POSITING TO YOU THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PROVIDED A PLETHORA OF INFORMATION TO THE BOARD SUBSTANTIVE DOCUMENTATION, AND THE OPPOSITION HAS DONE NONE OF THAT.

AND WE NEED TO SEE THEIR DOCUMENTATION SO THAT WE CAN RESPOND TO IT AT THE JANUARY 2ND MEETING IN JANUARY.

SO WHAT I PROPOSE THEN IS YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING YOU'RE SUBMITTED, PENDING WHAT ANY OTHER DOCUMENTATION THAT THE GAS STATION OWNERS MIGHT SAY, CORRECT.

WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE PROVISO THAT IF THE BOARD SAYS TONIGHT FROM THAT THEY WOULD LIKE SAM'S CLUB TO DO SOME, DO SOMETHING, SUBMIT SOMETHING, UPDATE SOMETHING, WE WILL IN DUE COURSE DO THAT QUICKLY AND PROVIDE IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

SO I WOULD THEN SUGGEST, SO THAT WE HAVE THIS ORDERLY, IS THAT INSTEAD OF YOU SUBMITTING DOCUMENTATION, 'CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE BASICALLY HAVE SUBMITTED WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT, YOU DON'T NEED UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST, IS TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE GAS STATION OWNERS TO SUBMIT WHATEVER THEY HAVE BY DECEMBER 31ST.

YOU THEN GET TWO WEEKS TO RESPOND TO THAT.

WE THEN HAVE TWO WEEKS FOR EVERYBODY TO RESPOND TO EVERYBODY ELSE'S IF WE WANT TO.

AND THEN FOR THAT SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, WE ACTUALLY WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION BASED ON ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT HAPPENS TO BE AVAILABLE.

UH, UM, I I I, I'LL DE DEFER TO THE BOARD'S JUDGMENT ON, ON THE TIMING.

I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT PERHAPS, GIVEN THAT IT'S THE 10TH OF NOVEMBER THAT PROVIDING THE OPPOSITION PARTIES WHEN THEY'VE ADMITTED THAT THEY'VE PREPARED MOST OF THIS STUFF, BUT STOPPED AT SOME POINT, THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED SIX TO SEVEN WEEKS TO PREPARE AND SUBMIT THAT INFORMATION AND THEN ONLY LEAVE US WITH TWO WEEKS TO RESPOND.

I WOULD ASK KINDLY TO PROVIDE US WITH A LARGER WINDOW OF TIME TO PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH THE RESPONSE PRIOR TO THE JANUARY 2ND MEETING.

BUT I DEFER TO THE BOARD'S JUDGMENT.

UM, THE, THE GAS STATION OWNERS OR REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE GAS STATION OWNERS HAVE UNTIL, UH, DECEMBER 31ST, WHICH IS SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS FROM NOW, UH, TO SUBMIT WHATEVER DOCUMENTATION THEY STILL HAVE TO SUBMIT BECAUSE, UH, I UNDERSTAND YOU SUBMITTED THE DOCUMENTATION, BUT IT NEVER MADE IT TO THE BOARD.

SO, SO WE JUST HAVE TO AMEND THAT JUDGE JUST NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THE MOTION IS.

YEAH, SO, SO THE, THE, THE, UM, PAUL, I'M JUST GONNA REREAD THIS.

PAUL MOVED TO ADJOURN HEARING TO SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY.

DIANA SECOND FRANCIS MOVED TO AMEND TO STIPULATE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS UNTIL 1231.

OH, THAT'S OUT THE WINDOW NOW THAT, OKAY.

SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO, SO NOW IT'S GOING TO BE,

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SO WE WILL, WE WILL REMEDY THAT, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

SO WITH ANY ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION YOU MAY HAVE, THEY WOULD BE SUBMITTING IT BY THE END OF THE YEAR, AND THEN THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE, UH, TWO WEEKS TO RESPOND TO THAT.

AND THEN BOTH PARTIES HAVE THE ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS TO GET TO US, TO THE, UH, TO THE SECOND MEETING OF, OF, UM, OF JANUARY.

IF THAT'S NOT TWO WEEKS, THAT'S FINE.

IT'S JUST THE SECOND MEETING OF JANUARY THAT THEY CAN CROSS BACK AND FORTH.

BUT WE'RE TRY, WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID IS JUST KICKING TONIGHT DOWN THE ROAD TO THE SECOND MEETING OF JANUARY.

AND SO THAT'S THE AMENDMENT.

MR. BUNT, DO YOU NEED UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR TO RESPOND? DO YOU NEED SIX WEEKS, SEVEN WEEKS TO SUBMIT INFORMATION? WE'RE GONNA NEED A BIT MORE TIME THAN THAT.

AND THIS IS THE REASON STUDIES THAT WERE DONE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO MICROPHONE, BECAUSE WE CAN HEAR, I'M SORRY, STUDIES THAT ARE PEOPLE PREPARED A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, JUST LIKE SAM'S CLUB STUDIES ARE OUT OF DATE AND NEED TO BE UPDATED.

UM, WE ARE DEALING WITH, AND THIS IS INDU ACROSS ALL INDUSTRIES, UM, YOU CAN'T GET A PLUMBER, LET ALONE AN ENGINEER TO DO ANYTHING FOR YOU.

DEB THOMPSON, OUR CONSULTING ENGINEER, COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE'S BOOKED SOLID DURING, TO GET EVERYTHING PUT TOGETHER DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON IS GONNA BE VERY TIGHT.

THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

AND I, AGAIN, SAM'S CLUB WAS GIVEN A YEAR AND A HALF, AND WE DIDN'T EVEN SEE THE JULY 28TH SUBMISSION UNTIL THIS PAST MONDAY.

SO TO ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, 10 WEEKS OR, YOU KNOW, TWO, TWO OR THREE MONTHS IS NOT UNREASONABLE.

WE COULD HAVE EVERYTHING IN PRIOR TO THE JA SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, BUT TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN BY NEW YEAR'S EVE.

UM, THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY TIGHT.

I'M AVAILABLE.

MY CO-COUNSEL, MR. UM, DEAN SUMMER IS AVAILABLE.

UM, WE GIVE THIS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR TIME.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT CONSULTING ENGINEERS, OTHER TYPES OF EXPERTS, I CAN'T JUST CALL THEM AND SAY, I NEED THIS BY DECEMBER 31ST.

I'M NOT GONNA GET IT.

AND I DON'T WANT THE TOWN TO HAVE OUTDATED INFORMATION OR HALF-BAKED SUBMISSIONS.

UM, I'D LIKE C P D TO BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE SHOWING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR STATION IN CONNECTICUT.

UM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE BAD INFORMATION TO THIS BOARD, AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVEN ADEQUATE TIME JUST AS THE APPLICANT WAS GIVEN ADEQUATE TIME.

ISN'T IT FAIR TO SAY THOUGH, THAT IF, IF THE APPLICANT WERE TO DO STUDIES BASED ON PANDEMIC CONDITIONS, YOU WOULD COME IN AND SAY, THAT'S NOT REALISTIC.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BE IN A PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR, FOR DECADES, WHICH IS WHEN THESE GAS STATION, THESE GAS PUMPS WILL BE IN, IN PLACE.

UNLIKE COUNSEL FOR SAM'S CLUB, I AM ONLY A LAWYER.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN ECONOMICS, ECONOMIC IMPACTS, OR EVEN GAS PRICING, EVEN THOUGH I REPRESENT PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY.

SO I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

UM, I WOULD BE DOING LEGAL WORK ONLY AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THESE PEOPLE, BUT THE STUDIES AND THE ANALYSIS IS ALL GONNA BE DONE BY THIRD PARTY PROFESSIONALS.

WHAT I'M GONNA SUGGEST IS MAYBE WE PUT THIS OVER TO A HEARING DATE IN FEBRUARY, THAT WAY SAM'S CLUB, WE CAN, WE CAN GET EVERYTHING IN, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE END OF JANUARY AND SAM'S CLUB WOULD HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO RESPOND TO IT.

AND THEN WE HAVE A FULL COMPLETE RECORD AT THE END OF THE NEXT HEARING, ALLOWING THE TOWN BOARD TO MAKE WHAT IS REALLY A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION.

WELL, IT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NORMALLY DO.

MATTER OF FACT, WE TOOK THE EXTRAORDINARY POSITION OF WE WEREN'T GOING TO DISCUSS THIS CASE BACK IN MARCH OF 2020 BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

AND SO YOU, YOU WOULD THINK IN THAT TIME PERIOD THAT THERE WAS TIME TO LOOK INTO OTHER GAS STATIONS THAT MAY HAVE GONE OUT OF BUSINESS AND SO FORTH, THAT WASN'T GOING AWAY.

WE POSTPONED THE HEARING BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

POSTPONED MEANS THAT IT'S COMING BACK.

AND SO HERE WE ARE, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE, YOU SHOULD BE SURPRISED.

I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT LET'S

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NOT VOTE TONIGHT, OKAY? WE SAID YES, RIGHT? LET'S HOLD OVER THE HEARING, RIGHT? NORMALLY THAT MEANS THE NEXT MEETING, AND NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FEBRUARY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO BE PRACTICAL.

YOU KNOW, WE CHECKED THE WEB, THE TOWN WEBSITE EVERY MONTH TO SEE IF THE TOWN BOARD HAD TAKEN ANY ACTION AND THERE WAS NOTHING SHOWING UNTIL OCTOBER 19TH THAT SUDDENLY THIS HAD COME BACK TO LIFE.

WE WERE NOTIFIED, I WAS NOTIFIED ON OCTOBER 29TH.

AND AS I SAID, THE UPDATED MATERIALS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY SAM'S CLUB BACK IN JULY WERE NOT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON YOUR WEBSITE UNTIL MONDAY OF THIS WEEK.

OKAY? ALRIGHT.

SO THAT, YES, PANDEMIC AND POSTPONEMENT, THAT'S ALL IT, IT'S BEEN A MESS.

AND IT'S BEEN HARD FOR YOU GUYS.

IT'S BEEN HARD FOR PEOPLE IN EVERY INDUSTRY.

THE PANDEMIC HAS BEEN EASY FOR NO ONE.

HOWEVER, UH, TO GIVE US ONLY A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME WHEN SAM'S CLUB HAD A YEAR AND A HALF AND COULD COME HERE, GO TO THE WORK SESSIONS, UM, AND THEN FIND THAT THE TOWN HADN'T POSTED THAT MATERIAL AND ONLY PUT IT UP ON THE WEBSITE THIS MONDAY.

OKAY? I'M JUST TRYING TO BE REALISTIC.

I CAN PREPARE FOR TRIAL ON SHORT NOTICE, BUT I CAN'T GET MY EXPERT WITNESSES LINED UP IF THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE.

CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? WHAT IF WE BASICALLY SAID WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, BUT WE ALSO INDICATE THAT THERE WON'T BE THAT THERE, WE WILL CLOSE THE HEARING.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT NIGHT, UM, AND THERE WON'T BE ADDITIONAL ADJOURNMENT.

SO THIS WAY, EVERYBODY, THIS WAY, IT GIVES EVERYBODY A FAIR CHANCE.

UH, THEN, UH, SAM'S CLUB WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND, UH, TO THE COMMENTS AND, AND THEY COULD TELL, UH, UH, UH, THE OFFICIALS AT SAM'S CLUB THAT THERE'LL BE A VOTE UP OR DOWN.

UM, USUALLY WE DON'T VOTE THE SAME NIGHT AS A HEARING.

SO THEN WE WOULD SAY, WE WILL VOTE ON THIS BY THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

AND YOU KNOW, THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, NOBODY WILL FEEL THAT WE'RE GOING, YOU KNOW, JUST DELAYING, DELAYING, DELAYING.

BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE A VOTE AND IT WILL BE THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

AND THIS WAY EVERYBODY HAS THE TIME.

IT'S REASONABLE FOR THERE TO BE FINALITY ON THIS PROCESS.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UH, MY REVISED MOTION.

SO WHEN ARE THE DOCUMENTS ARE REQUIRED? BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE BOTH SIDES PROVIDING DOCUMENTS AT THE SAME TIME, THE OTHERS ARE GOING TO WANT MORE TIME IN ORDER TO RESPOND.

SO WHAT IS THE SEQUENCE THAT GETS US TO BEING ABLE TO VOTE? I'M NOT, I'M NOT THRILLED ABOUT TYING OUR HANDS TO HAVING TO VOTE WHETHER OR NOT, EVEN IF WE'RE NOT READY, BECAUSE THERE MAY NOW BE CONFLICTING DOCUMENTS.

WELL, WE COULD SAY WILL ADJOURN THAT WE WILL, WE'LL CLOSE THE HEARING.

YOU KNOW, THE BOARD'S NOT READY TO VOTE, THE BOARD'S NOT READY TO VOTE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MY, MY FAILING IS THAT I DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT LIKE A GIMMICK OR A GAME, YOU KNOW, THIS IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO HAVE A VOTE UPPER UP OR DOWN.

AND MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION? UM, AND, AND, AND, AND SUBJECT TO THE BOARD AND, UH, UH, COUNCIL'S, UH, VIEW ON IT IS THAT PERHAPS, UM, UH, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSAL TO MOVE THIS TO THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

CLOSE THE RECORD, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY MEETING.

IF I'M MISSPEAKING, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN TO, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY AFTER THE BOARD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE SUBMISSIONS THAT ARE MADE BY SAM'S CLUB AS WELL AS THE OPPOSITION, AND I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE BOARD TAKING UNDER ADVISEMENT, UH, AN EXPECTED VOTE, PERHAPS AT THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY UNDER, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THE BOARD NEEDS MORE TIME TO RENDER ITS DECISION AND THE BOARD WILL MOVE AT THAT SECOND MEETING TO PERHAPS MAKE THE VOTE AT THE NEXT MEETING.

YOU KNOW, UH, SO THAT THE BOARD HAS MORE TIME.

BUT THE ONLY SUGGESTION I MAKE IS THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE ENORMOUSLY HELPFUL IF ALL PARTIES HAD A DROP DEAD DATE BY WHICH SUBMISSIONS NEED TO BE MADE AND THAT NO, NO LATER THAN, BECAUSE THEN SAM'S CLUB CAN RESPOND TO THE OPPOSITION OWNER OPPOSITION STATEMENTS AND THE OPPOSITION STATEMENT.

OPPOSITION PARTIES CAN RESPOND TO SAM'S CLUB AT THE HEARING IN WHICH YOU PROPOSED TO CLOSE THE PROCEEDINGS.

SO I IS IT, WHAT IF WE DID IT LIKE, SAY, JANUARY 10TH, BECAUSE THEN YOU, THEN THERE'S BASICALLY A MONTH TO RESPOND.

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ANYBODY COULD SUBMIT, UH, ANY TESTIMONY OR INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE BY JANUARY 10TH.

UM, AND, UH, THEN THE, THE, AND THEN THE, THE MEETING IS, UH, LET ME LOOK.

THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY IS, HOLD ON, I'M SORRY.

UM, IT'S THE NINTH.

IT'S FEBRUARY 9TH.

SO THEN, THEN THERE'S A MONTH, PRETTY MUCH A MONTH.

I, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT TIMEFRAME.

SO WE, WE TAKE A MOTION.

PAUL, I MEAN, DO YOU WANNA MAKE THE MR, IT'S FINE.

SO PAUL NOW NEEDS TO AMEND, WAIT YOU THE MOTION THAT DIANA SECOND PAUL, JUST DIANA, WOULD YOU WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND? YES.

PAUL, WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.

MAKE IT EASY ON THE TOWN CLERK .

START A NEW MOTION AND START A NEW MOTION.

WELL, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU HAVE BEFORE? I'M JUST SAYING JULY, UH, JANUARY 9TH IS STILL VERY SHORT.

I THINK IF EVERYBODY EXCHANGES EVERYTHING BY JANUARY 20TH, THAT'S AMPLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO RESPOND.

AND OF COURSE WE ARE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INTERESTED PARTIES.

I'M ASSUMING GENERAL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN COME IN AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE WHATEVER STATEMENTS THEY WANT.

WE CAN'T CONTROL THEM.

WOULD YOU, WOULD WHAT? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S YOUR FEELING ON THAT IF HE, YOU'RE TALKING TWO MONTHS? I THINK THERE'S SUFFICIENT TIME FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR FOR THE OPPOSITION PARTIES TO PREPARE WHATEVER DOCUMENTATION SUBMITTED.

AND EVEN IF IT'S ONLY TO, UH, DECEMBER 31ST, WHICH AGAIN IS SIX TO SEVEN WEEKS, SAM'S CLUB HAS A VERY LIMITED WINDOW TO RESPOND.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATEMENTS WILL BE.

AND TO USE THE SAME COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE OPPOSITION'S ATTORNEY, WE MAY NEED TO HIRE ENGINEERS, TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS, OR WHOMEVER.

AND WE MAY HAVE THOSE SAME DIFFICULTIES, BUT WE'RE ONLY BEING AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY OF PERHAPS TWO WEEKS OR SO.

AND SO, I WOULD SAY TO THE BOARD, WE NEED TO HAVE CLOSURE ON THIS ITEM UP OR DOWN.

AND WE ARE PREPARED TO ACCEPT A ADJOURNMENT, UH, UNTIL THE, THE, THE, THE JANUARY MEETING WITH A VOTE SCHEDULED IN, UH, I'M SORRY, THE FIRST FEBRUARY MEETING WITH A VOTE SCHEDULED IN FEBRUARY.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DEFINITIVE DATE BY WHICH ALL PARTIES MUST SUBMIT THEIR DOCUMENTATION, UM, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING.

AND IF SOMEONE SHOWS UP AT A PUBLIC HEARING, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A COMMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE A SPEAKER.

PRESUMABLY THE, THE TWO PARTIES WILL HAVE ADDRESSED JUST ABOUT EVERY COMMENT THAT COULD BE POSSIBLY COME ALONG, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.

BUT THE DROP DEAD DATE IS JANUARY 10TH.

SO I'M FINE WITH THAT.

IT NOT GONNA BE THE END OF THE YEAR.

I, I JUST DON'T WANT TO PROLONG THIS MEETING.

AND I THINK INFORMATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY BY NOW, INFORMATION MAKE A DECISION.

SO IT'S UP TO THE BOARD AT THIS POINT.

SO WE GOTTA MAKE THE MO WHO'S MAKING, WHAT'S THE MOTION? WE GOTTA MAKE THE MOTION.

WELL, PAUL WAS MAKING THE MOTION, THE MOTION MAKING A MOTION.

PAUL WAS, WEREN'T YOU MAKING IT? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

YEAH, I MADE THE MOTION THAT, UH, WELL, PAUL, WHAT WE NORMALLY DO IS, IS THERE ANYONE HERE HOW ANYBODY WOULD KNOW THIS? I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT IT'S, IT'S OUR CUSTOMARY PRACTICE AND OTHER BOARDS DO IT AS WELL.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO CAN'T MAKE THE FEBRUARY 9TH MEETING, WHICH, WHICH IS THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY? IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT, THEN PLEASE COME UP AND GIVE WHATEVER STATEMENT YOU WANTED TO MAKE YOU WOULD'VE MADE JANUARY 9TH TONIGHT.

BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS ON, ON FEBRUARY 9TH, PEOPLE GET UP AND, UH, SENDING US LETTERS SAYING, OH, WE WE CAN'T MAKE IT THAT NIGHT.

COULD YOU ADJOURN IT? SO IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU WANNA MAKE A COMMENT, IF YOU COULD MAKE YOUR COMMENTS SHORT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS.

IF YOU BELIEVE SOMETHING SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, YOU JUST SAY, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT PERSON SAID, OR WHATEVER.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP REPEATING THE SAME THING.

I WOULD JUST, I JUST, I JUST WOULD LIKE, YOU WANNA MAKE THE MOTION TO MAKE THAT.

MAY I SPEAK? 'CAUSE I DIDN'T FINISH.

I HAD TWO MINUTES LEFT.

I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST REITERATE WHAT, TALKING ABOUT WHAT MR. BUNTING SAID.

UH, OKAY.

REITERATE, WE REITERATE WAIT, JUST FOR, JUST FOR CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY YES.

IN THIS PROCESS, YES.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

SO WHY DON'T WE, THAT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR HAS MADE, I THOUGHT WE DO.

YOU WE WITHDREW IT.

THERE WAS, THERE WAS NO SECOND.

THE, THE TOWN SUPER DI THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS TO ADJOURN THE HEARING TO THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY.

DIANA'S SECOND FRANCIS AMENDED TO STIPULATE THAT THE GAS STATION OWNERS HAVE UNTIL 1231 TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION.

AN APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TWO WEEKS TO RESPOND, AND BOTH PARTIES HAVE UNTIL SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY TO SUBMIT DESIRED DOCUMENTATION.

THEN DIANA WITHDREW HER

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PAUL MADE A NEW MOTION WITH MOTION.

PAUL MOVED TO ADJOURN TO THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY AND WILL VOTE ON THE MATTER AT THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY, 2022.

THERE WAS NO SECOND TO THAT MOTION.

SO IT DOESN'T EXIST.

OKAY, SO WHAT'S THE MOTION? OKAY, SO, SO NOW FRANCIS IS SAYING THE MOTION DOES NOT EXIST.

PAUL, ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? NO.

THERE'S A NEW MOTION NOW.

RIGHT? OKAY.

SO WHAT IS THE NEW MOTION? JUDITH, YOU DON'T HAVE A SECOND.

SO, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A MOTION? WE'RE TRYING HAVE THAT LONG THING TRYING.

NO, NO, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HERE.

RIGHT NOW, THIS GENTLEMAN WANTS TO COME AND SPEAK.

IS THE MOTION STILL ON THE TABLE? NOW? THERE IS MOTION ON THE TABLE.

ALL RIGHT, SIR.

THAT'S WHY.

SO, SO LEMME SAY, LEMME SAY THIS, RIGHT? YES.

YOU'VE HAD SUCCESS HERE.

YES, TO SOME EXTENT, RIGHT? THANK YOU.

YOU MIGHT TALK YOURSELF OUTTA THAT SUCCESS.

YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT.

THAT EXACTLY .

SO, SO THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO UP EXACTLY WITH A DATE SET AND WE CAN MOVE ON.

SO I WOULD JUST MAKE THAT, THAT COMMENT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN JUST MOVE ALONG THIS.

OKAY, SO DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A, SO GO AHEAD, PAUL.

NOW MAKE YOUR MOTION.

OKAY, MY MOTION IS THAT WE ADJOURN THE HEARING TO FEBRUARY 9TH.

NO, NO.

THE MOTION IS THAT ALL PARTIES NEED TO HAVE THEIR DOCUMENTATION IN BY JANUARY 10TH, I BELIEVE.

JANUARY 9TH AT THE, UH, LET'S SEE, JANUARY 10TH.

UM, AND THAT THE HEARING WILL BE CONTINUED ON, UH, FEBRUARY 9TH, RIGHT? AT WHICH TIME WE EXPECT, UH, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WE WILL, UH, USE OUR STANDARD PRACTICE OF LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR, FOR 10 DAYS.

BUT WE WOULD EXPECT THAT IN THE PERIOD FROM DECEMBER, JANUARY 9TH.

I'M MAKING THIS MESSAGE AGAIN FROM, FROM JANUARY 9TH UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING ITSELF, IF ANYONE WANTS TO REBUT, YOU CAN DO THAT.

BUT WE DON'T EXPECT YOU TO SUBMIT NEW MATERIAL AFTER JANUARY 9TH BECAUSE THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE OTHER SIDE.

RIGHT? UNLESS IT'S IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

I APOLOGIZE.

MAY I MAKE ONE? WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

YOU GOTTA MAKE ABOUT THE MOTION.

WHAT'S THAT? THE CLARIFICATION WAS, I BELIEVE THE AGREEMENT WAS THAT THE RECORD, THE POST PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE CLOSED AND THAT YOU WOULD VOTE IT OUT.

YOU ANTICIPATED IT VOTED OUT AT THE NEXT HEARING WITH THE PROVISO THAT IF YOU NEEDED MORE TIME AT THAT NEXT MEETING, YOU WOULD NOT VOTE IT OUT.

YOU WOULD USE MORE TIME.

BUT IT, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

YEAH, NO, THAT, THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S FAIR.

AND WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT FOLLOWING OUR NORMAL PROCEDURE, WE WOULD LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN ON FEBRUARY 9TH, UH, FOR 10 DAYS AND WE WOULD THEN VOTE ON THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE ON FEBRUARY 23RD.

SO NOW YOU'RE STILL CONTINUING THE HEARING TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK TO SPEAK.

NO, NO ONE, NO ONE SAID SO, BUT ALSO REMEMBER NOBODY SAID THAT WHAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY PREVIOUSLY JUST SAID, .

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY, JUDGE.

NOW I JUST WANT TO JUST SAY TO YOU THAT THERE ARE ABOUT 17 REQUESTS TO SPEAK HERE.

DO WE WANT TO, UM, COME UP WITH A PROCESS FOR MAYBE ASKING EACH INDIVIDUAL WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, DO THEY WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT OR DEFER, DEFER THEIR COMMENTS TO FEBRUARY 9TH? I THINK SO, YES.

IF PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP.

FEBRUARY 9TH, JONATHAN PINTADO.

TARIQ SHA CHARE, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TONIGHT OR DO DEFER TO FEBRUARY 9TH.

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

TARIQ.

CLAUDIO.

CLAUDIO, I'M NOT SURE OF YOUR LAST NAME.

DO YOU WANT FEBRUARY NINE? EXCELLENT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE? THIS IS FEBRUARY 9TH IS A HERO.

OKAY, WELL THAT'S RIGHT.

FEBRUARY NINE, ALL ELLA.

I CAN'T BELIEVE ELLA IS HERE.

ELLA, HE'S ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK.

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REEN LIVES IN.

WHAT'S THE RESPONSE? FEBRUARY 9TH.

WOW.

I, I HAVE A FEELING WE'RE GOTTA GO FROM HER.

I'VE GOTTA GET THIS RIGHT.

I'M GONNA GET THIS RIGHT.

BAAR RON.

GREAT JOB.

I'LL SPEAK NOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER.

DO YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW? UH, I'LL BE ALRIGHT.

JAMAL, DID WE ALREADY HEAR FROM AMMAR? FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 9TH ON.

AND THAT IS IT ON, IS THERE ANYBODY REMOTE? SAM'S CLUB.

THANK YOU MR. ANYONE WHO'S REMOTE, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND ELECTRONICALLY.

OKAY, MR. SAMS. THERE YOU GO.

I'M NOT A GASOLINE OWNER, OBVIOUSLY STATION OWNER, BUT I AM CURIOUS FROM WALMART'S POINT OF VIEW THAT TONIGHT YOU APPARENTLY HAVE GREAT KNOWLEDGE OF THE ECONOMICS OF INDEPENDENT GAS STATION OWNERS, AND YET WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR OWN CLIENT'S PROFITABILITY AT THIS LOCATION, APPARENTLY YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

SO WHEN YOU RETURN MRS, YOU GOTTA DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE TOWN BOARD.

SO WHEN THE CLIENT, WHEN THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT WALMART RETURNS, I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL LEARN THE PROFITABILITY OF THIS LOCATION BECAUSE HE HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT HE HAS A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROFITABILITY OF INDEPENDENT GAS STATIONS IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS.

SECONDLY, IF THE TOWN BOARD REALLY WANTS TO BE BEST FRIENDS FOREVER WITH LARGE CORPORATE COMPANIES, WHICH ARE OPERATING IN GREENBURG, LARGE TAXPAYERS AND NOT THE INDEPENDENT BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WE SEEM TO WANT TO PROMOTE, BUT DON'T DEFEND IN TIMES OF NEED, THEN PERHAPS WE OUGHT TO EXAMINE WHY WALMART WANTS TO SELL GAS AT THIS LOCATION.

I HEARD TONIGHT ABOUT LITTLE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO BUY GAS EVEN EXCLUSIVELY AS A TRIP TO THE LO SAM'S CLUB LOCATION AND NOT TO GO INTO THE BUILDING ITSELF.

SO WITH ALL THAT CONCERN FOR PEOPLE, YOU AND I HAD I A CAR, UH, AND HOW WE WOULD BE BUYING OUR GAS.

WHAT'S NOT BEEN MENTIONED IS WHO THE REAL CUSTOMER OF THIS V VENTURE IS REALLY INTENDED TO BE.

IT'S NOT MOM AND POP, IT'S NOT JUNIOR OUT BORROWING THE PARENTS' CAR TO GO ON A DATE.

IT'S FEDEX, U P S AND AMAZON.

THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.

SO IF WALMART REALLY WAS ONLY INTERESTED IN THE LITTLE GUYS WHO GOT BY CAR GASOLINE JUST FOR THEIR CARS, THEN PERHAPS IF THE TOWN IS SO CONCERNED ABOUT TAX REVENUE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE LITTLE GUY WHO OPERATES THE GAS STATION DOWN THE BLOCK, THEN MAYBE THE TOWN BOARD OFFER OR OFFERS A COMPROMISE TO WALMART THAT THEY CAN SELL GAS AT SAM'S CLUB.

BUT AS THE PAYBACK FOR THAT TO PROPOSE THAT AMAZON, FEDEX AND U P S CAN HAVE GAS PUMPING STATIONS ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO SAM'S CLUB, WOULD WALMART STILL BE INTERESTED IF THAT WERE ON THE TABLE AND THAT BUSINESS WOULD NOT BE THEIRS ANYMORE? THANKS.

MARY .

OH, OH, I'M SORRY SIR, WERE YOU GOING? I'M SORRY, SIR, WERE YOU GOING TO SPEAK? YEAH, I, I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION IF THAT, UH, IT WOULD SERVE THE TOWN.

WOULD YOU GIVE YOUR NAME PLEASE? UH, DAN GROSS.

I'M IN CHARGE OF FUEL OPERATIONS FOR WALMART AND SAM'S CLUB.

AND UH, I'LL TELL YOU, WE HAVE NO, UH, FLEET ARRANGEMENTS WITH ANY OF THE COMPANIES THAT, THAT, UH, JUST MENTIONED.

THEY ALL DO USUALLY FILL UP AT THEIR OWN, UH, CORPORATE FUELING COMMERCIAL STATIONS OR THEY FILL UP AT A TRUCK STOP SOMEWHERE.

THERE WILL NOT BE ANY COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC FOR HEARING.

IT'S FOR OUR MEMBERS ONLY.

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YOU JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT? YES.

SO IS IT, ALRIGHT, SO IS THERE ANYBODY WHO HASN'T ALREADY SPOKEN? YES.

WHO DOES NOT WANNA WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY 9TH? I SAID, UH, MARY BODEN, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW OR DO YOU YOU'RE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

MARCH 2ND.

SO HE DOESN'T WANNA SPEAK TONIGHT.

NOW DID WE CHECK REMOTELY TO SEE IF ANYBODY WAS WAITING? THERE'S NO ONE WAITING REMOTELY.

THERE IS NOBODY WAITING REMOTELY.

SO WE ARE ADJOURNING THIS HEARING TO, UH, WHAT'S THE DATE? IS IT FEBRUARY 9TH? WE NEED YOU.

WE NEED A MOTION.

WE NEED, I'M MAKING MOTION TO ADJOURN TO FEBRUARY 9TH.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

GOODNIGHT.

NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE ANOTHER HEARING COMING UP.

SO IF YOU COULD, UH, EXPEDITE, UH, BE APPRECIATED.

TAKE THAT OFF THE YES.

WE JUST WANNA CONTINUE WITH THE MEETING.

OH, PLEASE GO OUTSIDE.

CHIEF, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THE DOOR'S CLOSED BEHIND SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYONE SO WE CAN CONTINUE PLEASE.

REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING RELATING TO, UH, THE EXTENSION OF THE FINMORE SEWER DISTRICT IN THE VICINITY OF 7 0 1 DO FERRY ROAD.

NEXT, I'D LIKE TO

[ Re-opening of a Public Hearing to continue consideration of the extension of the Finmor Sewer District in the vicinity of 701 Dobbs Ferry Road]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN THE HEARING.

THERE ANYONE HERE FOR THE APPLICANT REMOTELY? I THINK THE APPLICANT IS REMOTE.

IT'S NICHOLAS WARD.

NICK WARD.

WILLIS BEING ON LANE 365.

L L C FILED A PETITION TO EXTEND IF THEMORE STEWARD DISTRICT PROBABLY LOCATED, LOCATED SEVEN ONE BURY ROAD, WHICH IS THE, UH, DRIVING ROOM PARCEL.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PARCEL WAS SERVED BY IN THE PAST AND IS CURRENTLY, UH, SERVED BY PORTABLE RESTROOM.

THE TOWN HAS REQUESTED DRIVING RANGE DISCONTINUED OF THE PORTABLE TOILET AND CONNECTED TO THE NEW SEWER NAME THAT WAS INSTALLED A FEW YEARS AGO IN THE RIGHT WAY WITHIN DOBBS BURY, UH, ROAD WHEN THE NAME WAS INSTALLED.

AUB WAS INSTALLED AT THAT TIME ON MONT PROPERTY WHERE THE EXPECTATION THAT AT SOME POINT WOULD CONNECT TO THAT, UM, AND OUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY TO ALLOW THE SERVICE LINE CONNECTION.

CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW SERVICE LINES SHOULD BE PETITIONED, BE GRANTED, WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY, UM, LANE CLOSURES, DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY CONSTRUCTION IN BURY ROAD.

ALL WORK TO CONNECT OUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY TO THE SEWER MASON DECISION BE GRANTED.

WE OCCUR ON OUR CLIENT'S, UH, PROPERTY WHEN WE FILE OUR PETITION.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH GEORGE LIPSON WHO EXPRESSED IN THIS MATTER, AND I EMAILED HER FIRST TODAY AS WELL.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT WE JUSTIFIED IN THE PETITION THAT OUR PETITION SHOULD BE GRANTED TO EXTEND THE SEWER DISTRICT IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.

THERE'S A MAP SHOWING PARCEL FOUR, WHICH THAT CAN BE PLACED ON THE SCREEN, UH, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

AND THAT SHOWS THE PARCEL THAT IS TO BE CONNECTED TO THE SEWER DISTRICT, WHICH IS JUST A SINGLE PARCEL WHICH CONTAINS THE DRIVING RANGE.

AND IN ESSENCE, THIS WILL ALLOW THE GOLF SHOP TO, UM, HAVE THIS, UH, RESTROOMS CONNECTED TO THE SEWER SYSTEM.

AND THAT IS OUR APPLICATION FACT TO HAVE THAT LONG PARCEL ADDED TO THE THEMORE SEWER DISTRICT.

AND, UM, BEFORE YOU GO MS. LIPSON, I KNOW MR. FONG IS HERE FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND PERHAPS HE SPOKE TO, UH, TALENT ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OR BRIAN SIMMONS WITH RESPECT TO THE SUFFICIENCY OF THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS PROVIDED.

DID YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT MR. FALL? I CAN IF YOU'D LIKE.

YES, IT'S GOOD FOR THE RECORD.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, THANKS.

THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS REVIEWED, UH, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE SURVEY, THE MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION, AND THEY'RE SATISFIED THAT IT, UH, FULFILLS THE REQUIREMENTS.

YOUR NAME? OH, RICHARD FOND.

F O N THANKS.

SORRY, COMMISSIONER RICHARD FOND FROM PUBLIC WORKS.

I SEE YOU TOO.

WITH WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE.

MS. OH, JUDITH.

MS. CAN MS. LIPSON SPEAK? OH, YES.

OKAY, THANKS.

ABSOLUTELY.

DOREEN LIPSON? UH, MY NAME IS DOREEN LIPSON.

UM, UH, I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH NUMEROUS RESIDENTS.

THEY LIVE ON WESTCHESTER VIEW LANE ON DOBBS FER ROAD, FINALLY, AND WITH NICK WARD WILLIS QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH, EMAILS BACK AND FORTH, AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM

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THE ONE QUESTION I STILL HAVE REMAINING, UM, YOU, I SPOKE ABOUT A TIMEFRAME.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW LONG THIS WILL TAKE? UH, 'CAUSE NOT EVERYONE SAW OUR EMAILS BACK AND FORTH AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN? WILL THE GOLF RANGE REMAIN OPEN OR WILL IT CLOSE? OR WHEN DO YOU, HOW, HOW IS THIS GOING TO WORK? SO PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT.

I MAY ADDRESS THAT.

MR. SUPERVISOR.

THE, SHOULD THE TISSUE BE GRANTED, YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THE CONNECTION OCCUR THIS WINTER.

WE ANTICIPATE IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT FIVE DAYS, AND THAT'S NOT MEANT TO IMPLY, WOULD TAKE FIVE WORK DAYS.

THEY WILL WORK SOLELY ON THE PROPERTY THAT'LL UNCOVER THE STUFF.

THE TAKE OFF TRENCH OR PIPE.

TOWN OFFICIALS NEED TO COME OUT THERE.

COUNTY OFFICIALS NEED TO COME OUT THERE AND INSPECT THE, UM, SERVICE LINE TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN ACCORD WITH TOWN REGULATIONS AND THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT CODE, AND THEN GET BACK FILLED.

AND THEN THE WORK IS DONE.

AGAIN, NO LATE CLOSURE.

WE ANTICIPATE, UM, MAD KEVIN KALE WHO'S HERE AND YOU KNOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M MISTAKEN, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT THE, UH, DISTANCE OPERATION SHOULD THE WEATHER, OF COURSE ALLOW THE RANGE TO BE OPEN HALF THE TIME IN WINTER WHEN THIS WORK WILL BE PERFORMED.

SO THEY'LL HAVE TO CLOSE OFF PART OF THEIR RANGE WHILE THEY'RE WORKING AND UH, NO, THEY, NO, BECAUSE ALL THE WORK IS BEING DONE FROM THE ROADSIDE ONTO THE PARKING LOT.

SO THERE'S NO REASON TO THERE BEING NO WORK BEING DONE IN THE RAIN ITSELF.

MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.

IT'S NICE SEEING YOU AGAIN, NICK, AND HAVE A WONDERFUL THANKSGIVING LIKE LOUIS MARINA.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY ELSE? SO IT, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE WORK THAT'S GONNA BE DONE IS NOT GONNA BE DONE IN THE STREET, BUT THERE ISN'T, IS THERE ANY, UM, INDICATION OR, OR CONSIDERATION THAT AT SOME POINT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO CLOSE OFF A LANE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING SO CLOSE TO THE CURB? I CAN'T, I DON'T ISSUE WITH MR. CASE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD NOT NEED TO OCCUR.

I'M NOT A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.

I THINK BECAUSE OF WHAT THE FOUND REQUIRED AND WHAT OSHA REQUIRED, BUT I BELIEVE WE LOCATED OUT OF THE WAY ON OUR PROPERTY, DID NOT REQUIRE LANE CLOSURES BECAUSE ALL THE WORK BE DONE FROM THE STUDY, WHICH IS ON OUR PROPERTY INTO THE PROPERTY.

SO I BUILT POSITION TO KNOWING THAT THAT WOULD OCCUR.

WELL, YOU KNOW WHERE I'M, I'M GOING WITH THAT IS THAT THE, THE, UH, LANE CLOSURES THAT, UH, WERE EXPERIENCED, UH, FOR THE LAST, UH, ROUND OF CONSTRUCTION, PUTTING IN THE PIPE, UH, THAT IS NOWHERE NEAR WHAT IS ANTICIPATED HERE.

THIS IS, THIS IS EXPECTED TO KEEP THE ROAD OPEN, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, IF NOT ENTIRELY, UH, WHILE YOU'RE CONNECTING TO A STUB THAT WAS PUT IN DURING THAT OTHER MAJOR CONSTRUCTION.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

UH, I HAVE A REQUEST HERE, HAL, UM, FOR, TO SPEAK ON TO BE ADDED TO THE HEARING LIST.

DO YOU AND ELLA WANNA SPEAK? ELLA, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THIS ONE? AL? OKAY, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT THEN.

WE DON'T HAVE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS HEARING.

MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING.

I MAKE THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING.

LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR 10 DAYS.

AND SINCE ELLA PRESIDENT HAS MISSED A FEW MEETINGS, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HER A HALF HOUR TO SPEAK.

UM, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT

[ PUBLIC COMMENT Advance signup via PublicComment@GreenburghNY.com is required. A three minute limit per speaker will be strictly enforced. No interruptions by Town Board members, the Town Clerk or the public will be permitted. Any questions on agenda items should be asked at this time. Department Heads have the option of leaving the meeting following Public Comment. Therefore, if anyone has questions that are related to resolutions/items on the agenda involving a specific Department Head, those questions should be raised at this time.]

GOODNIGHT.

OH, 'CAUSE THEN SHE'LL SAY YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES.

SO FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT, DOREEN LIPSON, THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD, GOOD THANKSGIVING.

I'LL BE CALLING KEITH LAWSON NEXT.

AND THEN DOREEN, HOW AND ELLA.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE ON THE TOWN BOARD EXPLAIN, I GUESS, OR EVEN GARRETT, EXPLAIN UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WHAT CD ONE IS.

AND CD TWO I HAD LIKE, IT EXPLAINED AS WHAT IS THE NECESSITY FOR THIS BEING PLACED ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S, UM, PROPERTY AND, UH, WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THE EXACT LOCATION.

I MEAN, I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE 'CAUSE GARRETT, BUT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW WHAT, AND THE NECESSITY OF THIS STRUCTURE GOING ON TO THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT PROPERTY.

AND NOT, NOT THAT I'M AGAINST IT.

I'M ALL FOR IT.

'CAUSE I THINK IT IS A NECESSITY, BUT I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD HEAR IT FROM THE TOWN BOARD.

COMMISSIONER.

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YES, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

UM, , WE HAVE COMPETING COMMISSIONERS HERE.

GARRETT, TAKE THE LEAD.

WHY DON'T WE DO, HERE'S MY RECOMMENDATION, RICH.

I'M GOING TO, UM, CAN YOU SCREEN SHARE GRAPHICS ON THE SCREEN? OKAY.

AND, UM, MAYBE IF YOU WANNA SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE BENEFIT AND, UM, AND WE'LL SORT OF BOTH, BOTH WORK TOGETHER HERE.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S HERE.

I START WITH, UM, A, UH, WORTHINGTON ROAD, UH, SAMPLE STATION LOCATION, WHICH I HAVE THE GRAPHIC HERE AND I CAN MARSH THAT.

AND RICH, I DO HAVE SOME COME UP ADDITIONAL GRAPHICS TO SHOW, UM, WHAT THE SHELTER WOULD LOOK LIKE.

BUT I, A TWO, I WAS WALK THROUGH.

THIS IS NOT, SO THIS IS A REQUIREMENT.

WE HAVE AN ONGOING PROJECT THAT THE BOARD'S AWARE OF.

THIS IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SAMPLING.

IT'S A SMALL STRUCTURE THAT IT WOULD BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, DO YOU HAVE A, CAN YOU SHOW THE, THE IMAGE OF THE STRUCTURE, GARRETT? OKAY.

SO, UM, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ZOOM IN TO SHOW WHERE THE WATER LINE IS AND THEN THE CONNECTION POINT THAT WOULD COME ON THE GROUND TO, UH, PROPOSED LOCATION OF SIX FOOT FIVE B FOOT MONITORING STATION.

THEN, UH, NEXT I'LL SHOW, UH, THE IMAGE OF THE, UH, UH, MARKUP OF THE SHELTER.

UH, DID THAT SWITCH AUTOMATICALLY OR DO I NEED TO SHARE ANYTHING? NO, IT'S THERE.

YOU'RE FINE.

THIS IS AN UNMANNED SHELTER AND, UM, IT'S FOR, UH, WATER SAMPLING PURPOSES.

AND, UM, I CAN JUMP BACK TO THE LOCATION THAT, UH, HAS BEEN WORKED OUT WITH THE FAIRVIEW FIRE CHIEF AND FAIRVIEW FIRE DISTRICT.

AND, UM, LEMME JUST NOTE THAT, UH, FROM A VISUAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, THERE ARE PLANS TO PLACE A SMALL BURN TO THE FRONT, UH, ALONG WITH LANDSCAPING ON BOTH THE WORTHINGTON ROAD AND WITHOUT FER SIDE.

SO THAT, UM, UH, THE NEW SHED OF, OF, OF DESTRUCTION WILL BE SECURE.

AND, UH, YEAH, VERY IMPORTANT, UH, WATER SAFETY PROPOSAL THERE.

COMMISSIONER, YOU WANNA ADD? UH, NO, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, UH, AS GARRETT SAID.

THANK YOU, GAR.

WHAT ALSO ADD IS THAT, UM, FROM A, UH, ZONING PERSPECTIVE, UH, THIS SCHOLAR ABUSE IS WHAT IT'S CONSIDERED IS PERMITTED IN THE, UH, UN FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT, WHICH IS SITUATED.

HOWEVER, UM, THE C UH, ONE SPEAKS TO, UH, THE SEEKER ASPECT AND YOU RENDER A NEGATIVE DECLARATION INDICATING THAT THIS, THIS PROPOSAL WILL NOT HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND, AND ACTUALLY, UM, THE DOCUMENT HIGHLIGHTS THE POSITIVE NATURE OF THIS PROPOSAL.

UM, BUT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, UH, GOVERNMENT USES, GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS ARE, UH, HAVE, HAVE CERTAIN SETBACKS IN THE ONE FAMILY DISTRICT.

AND, UM, TO ADHERE THOSE SETBACKS WOULD PLACE THE SHELTER IN AREAS THAT WERE NOT ADVISABLE AND THAT WE, WE FIRE DISTRICT OPERATIONS, UM, AS THESE PARKING SPACES.

SO, UH, CLEARLY WE WANTED TO, UH, SELECT THE SPACE THAT DID NOT FIRE, UH, OPERATIONS.

SO, UM, CD TWO IS, IS, IS A, UM, RESOLUTION THAT, UH, ESSENTIALLY EXEMPTS, UM, UM, ZONING AND, UM, NOT REQUIRE THIS PROJECT TO GO TO ZONING.

NO.

ALRIGHT, YOU WANNA MOVE OVER TO STADIUM ROAD? YES, THANK YOU.

STADIUM ROAD, UM, PROFESSORLY.

SO I BELIEVE I SEE THE DOCUMENT HERE, UM, WHICH IS, UH, THE STADIUM ROAD AT THE INTERSECTION OF STADIUM ROAD.

IN NORWOOD ROAD.

WE'VE GOT, UM, ACROSS, UH, FROM THE WATER SHOP AND THIS IS, UH, A MULTI, UH, FOLD PROJECT.

IT WOULD BE A, UH, WATER CONTACT TANK AND A CHEMICAL FEED STATION.

AND I DO HAVE A, UM, DRAWING THAT SHOWS, UM, IN COLOR, UH, WHERE THESE FEATURES WOULD BE LOCATED.

SO, UM, I WILL ZOOM IN, BUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS NORWOOD ROAD, AND THIS IS ORIENTED A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE IMAGE YOU JUST SAW.

THERE, THERE IS THIS PARKING OUT HERE.

THIS IS A NEW YORK CITY OWNS, UH, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE VAN.

AND, UM, ON THIS PROPERTY IS PROPOSED TO, UH, REPAVE, SORT OF THE, THE GRAVEL PARKING AND, AND, AND THE, UH, SORT OF THE YARD FOR THE WATER SHOP, IF YOU WILL, THAT EXISTS.

AND, UM, WHAT WOULD BE PROPOSED IS A, UH, ENCLOSED

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BUILDING CHEMICAL FEED STATION BUILDING AND, UH, CONTACT TANK, UM, FROM SIMILAR TO THE LAST PROPOSAL FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.

UH, THIS IS IN THE DS DISTRICT DESIGN SHOPPING, UH, WHICH, WHICH, UH, PERMITS GOVERNMENT USES.

UM, HOWEVER, FROM A, UH, SETBACK PERSPECTIVE, UH, CHEMICAL FEED STATION IS, UH, CLOSE, UM, TO THE PROPERTY LINE HERE.

AND, UM, WOULD, WOULD OTHERWISE BE VARIANCE AND SIMILAR TO CONTACT TANK, UH, WOULD OTHERWISE NEED A VARIANCE BASED ON ITS PROXIMITY, UH, TO THE SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINE, UH, PROPERTY SURROUNDED BY THE, UH, MOLE WOOD SHOPPING CENTER.

AND, UM, VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT.

AND I WILL, UH, ALLOW RICH, YOU SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF, UM, THIS PROJECT AND, UM, THE FACT THAT THERE ARE REALLY NO OTHER FEASIBLE LOCATIONS FOR THIS IMPORTANT INFRASTRUCTURE.

YES, AND THANK YOU GARRETT.

UM, AND GARRETT IS A TREMENDOUS HELP TO US, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE PROJECTS.

UM, THIS IS A MANDATE, THIS IS BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THE CITY'S DONE.

UH, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO WHAT, WHAT GOES ON OUT THERE 'CAUSE OF PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS, BUT THIS ISN'T AN ABSOLUTE MANDATE.

WE'RE UNDER DEADLINES TO GET THIS DONE.

SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF, UH, WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS, IS FOR THIS BUILDING.

BUT YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING WE HAVE THE MOST, WHAT I THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DEPARTMENT TOWN IS THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TURN ON THAT FAUCET AND YOU HAVE SAFE DRINKING WATER, THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT.

AND YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF PROJECTS NOW AND COMING UP THAT ARE GONNA SOLIDIFY THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT, THAT SYSTEM AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND IF I COULD JUST ADD THAT THE PROJECT THAT, UM, IS NEAR COMPLETION IS THE INTERCONNECTION OF OUR TWO PUMP STATIONS, WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.

MASSIVE UNDERTAKING AND INVOLVED PUTTING A PIPE UNDERNEATH THE SPRINGBROOK PARKWAY.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, GETTING FROM NORWOOD ROAD ALL, ALL THE WAY OVER TO EASTBROOK PARK, UH, THAT PROJECT, UM, HAS GONE QUITE SMOOTHLY FOR MAJOR PROJECTS.

UH, EXTREMELY COSTLY.

AND THE ONLY WAY TO PAY FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS, INCLUDING WHAT YOU SEE UP HERE TODAY, IS IN YOUR WATER RATES.

AND SO YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT YOUR, YOUR WATER RATES AREN'T AS INEXPENSIVE AS THEY USED TO BE.

UM, YET THEY'RE STILL LESS THAN NEARBY WATER, UM, OTHER WATER SYSTEMS. UH, BUT THAT'S, THIS IS BECAUSE THERE'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND WE'RE ADDRESSING IT.

AND THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, UH, THINGS THAT NEW YORK CITY WAS DOING BEFORE WE NOW HAVE TO DO.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE OTHERWISE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T TURN ON THE FAUCET SO THAT YOU HAVE WATER.

AND THE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH OUR MAJOR PROJECTS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WHICH IS NOTHING LESS THAN MONUMENTAL, IS THAT IF ONE PUMP STATION GOES DOWN, YOU WON'T BE WITHOUT WATER.

AND THAT WAS THE RISK THAT WAS BEING RUN FOR DECADES AND DECADES AND DECADES SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE TOWN.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REDUNDANCY.

YOU CAN GO FOR A WHILE WITHOUT, WITHOUT ELECTRICITY, YOU CAN GO FOR A WHILE WITHOUT NATURAL GAS.

UM, YOU CAN'T GO VERY LONG WITHOUT WATER.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS 'CAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

VERY WELL SAID.

THANK YOU, KEITH LAWSON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE ONES OF YOU ALL WHO JUST WON REELECTION.

OF ALL THE LIEUTENANTS ON THERE, LIEUTENANT HALL HAS PROVED THAT HE WELL DESERVED TO BE THE NEXT CHIEF OF POLICE.

NEXT TO ALL, WE WANT TO, UH, GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY MAN, CLIFF ABRAMS, WHO STOOD FIRM AND FAST UNTIL FINALLY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG REALIZED BLACK LIVES DO MATTER.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP AS A RETIRED COMMAND SERGEANT MAJOR IN THE MILITARY, AND AS RANKS GO UP, PEOPLE DESERVE 'EM.

THEY DON'T JUST GIVE YOU A STRIKE, YOU EARN.

AND NOW WHAT I'M SPEAKING ON TO BRING TO THAT POINT IS THAT FOR THE SECOND TIME, THE CHIEF OF POLICE OF GREENBURG IS LEAVING US AGAIN.

BUT THIS TIME WHEN HE LEAVE, I THINK IT, TO BE FAIR, IF WE LOOK BACK OF THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THE NEXT CHIEF, AND IF YOU LOOK

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BECAUSE IN ALL OF MY YEARS IN GREENBURG, HE IS ONE OF THE FEW OFFICERS THAT I'VE SEEN ON THE ROAD.

I'VE SEEN IN THE HOUSING PROJECTS, I'VE SEEN HIM IN ISSUES.

IT CONCERNS DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS.

AND HE IS ONE OF A COMPROMISE.

HE IS ONE THAT I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE CAN LOOK UP TO.

AND I THINK THAT HE'S ONE THAT HAS EARNED THE RESPECT OF NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE, BUT OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT DON'T TAKE BUT THREE VOTES, BUT IT'S BOARD TO SELECT HIM.

AND ANOTHER POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AS IN THE MILITARY, WHEN YOU LEAD A BRIGADE, IF THE SERGEANT MADE THE LEAD, THE NEXT FIRST SERGEANT IS SOMEBODY WOULD TAKE OVER FROM THAT BRIGADE.

IT MAKES NO SENSE TO BRING A OUTSIDE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WHO DON'T KNOW GREENBURG, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT SOMEBODY FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG THAT HAVE SERVED ON THIS POLICE BOARD DILLINGER AND HAVE STOOD ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL TO KNOW THE PEOPLE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG LEY, DO FAIR, ALL THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT THEY PATROL.

YOU BRING A PERSON FROM THE CITY, THEY DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GREENBURG.

SO ALL I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS TAKE A QUIET LOOK AT THE PERSON IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE THIS TOWN.

THANK YOU, MR. LESLIE.

I CONTACTED DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

OKAY, LORRAINE CAN.

HI, MY NAME'S LORRAINE KORI, AND IT IS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS I DON'T COME TO THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE OF MY ACUTE ASTHMA.

SITTING HERE WITH A MASK ALL NIGHT IS SLOWLY KILLING ME.

UM, FIRST I WANT TO, I WANNA SALUTE AND THANK VETERANS, THE ARMY, THE NAVY, THE AIR FORCE, THE MARINES, THE NATIONAL GUARD, AND THE COAST GUARD, BECAUSE TOMORROW'S VETERANS DAY.

AND IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TIME, UM, TO ACKNOWLEDGE EVEN IF YOU JUST WEARING RED, WHITE, AND BLUE.

UM, I AM VERY THANKFUL FOR THEM.

OKAY, SO THIS IS, UH, A SUBJECT THAT HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO ME OVER THE LAST 29 YEARS OF LIVING IN HARTSDALE.

UM, PAUL, I WANNA SAY PAUL, THANK YOU FOR, UM, YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN HELPING TO GET, UH, THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION INVOLVED IN GETTING THE 30 MILE PER HOUR SIGNS PUT ALONG THE, UM, CORRIDOR FROM NORWOOD ROAD, DOBBS FERRY, DOBBS FERRY, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FOUR CORNERS.

I HAVE A PHD IN NAGGING.

I SAID, WE NEED THE SIGNS.

WE HAVE SPEEDING.

WE NEED THE SIGNS.

WE ONLY HAVE THREE SIGNS.

THEY FINALLY PUT UP WHITE REFLECTIVE SIGNS THAT ARE ON WHITE REFLECTIVE POLES, AND THEY ARE IN YOUR FACE.

AND I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THERE'S SO MANY, BUT IT'S NOT SOLVING A VERY BIG PROBLEM.

THE SPEEDING STILL CONTINUES.

THE HORN HONKING STILL CONTINUES.

PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING UP.

THEY'RE SPEEDING DOWN PROBABLY 35 TO 45 MILES AN HOUR.

WE HAVE, UM, 18 WHEELERS.

WE HAVE, UH, WE ALSO HAVE GASOLINE TRUCKS.

WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, CARS, WE HAVE, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A SIGN ON CENTRAL AVENUE ABOUT THE, UH, PIMPED OUT MUFFLERS AND THE LOUD MUFFLERS.

I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH THAT.

BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, CARS ARE RACING.

THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE BLASTING LOUD MUSIC, UH, THE INCESSANT HONKING OF HORNS.

WHEN, WHEN DRIVERS DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN, OR IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE A RESIDENT THAT'S LIVED THERE AND YOU HAVE YOUR DIRECTION ON AS YOU APPROACH YOUR, YOUR DRIVEWAY, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SLOW DOWN.

YOU NEED TO BE LIKE DALE AT, YOU KNOW, ATHAR AND YOU NEED TO PULL ONTO YOUR DRIVEWAY AND SHUT UP WHILE YOU'RE DOING IT.

OKAY? THE HORN, THE HONKING, THE INTIMIDATION, THE MANIPULATION

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IS REALLY FRUSTRATING.

SO I AM HERE TO REQUEST A 30 MILE PER HOUR FLASHING SIGN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY COST TO PUT UP, BUT I FEEL THAT, UM, DRIVERS, RESIDENTS, PEDESTRIANS, NEED TO HAVE THAT THERE BECAUSE I FEEL IT ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF SECURITY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S ONLY UP FOR LIKE A WEEK OR TWO AND THEN IT'S GONE.

SCARSDALE HAS THEIRS UP ALL THE TIME.

IS THAT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT SIGNED? YOU KNOW, THAT FLASHES SOMEWHERE IN THAT CORRIDOR.

CHIEF IS THAT PUZZLE? THANK YOU.

I STEPPED OUTSIDE WHAT STREET? OKAY.

WEST DALE.

GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR.

FINER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

UH, THE SIGNS THAT YOU SEE, THE DIGITAL SIGNS, THEY, THEY MOVE FROM LOCATION TO LOCATION BECAUSE STUDIES HAVE FOUND WHEN THEY ARE STATIONARY, THEY BECOME A PART OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND IGNORE IT.

UH, WEST HARTSDALE, I'LL GET TOGETHER WITH YOU AND I, I APOLOGIZE I STEPPED OUT FOR A SECOND, BUT I'LL FIND OUT THE LOCATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WE'LL, WE WILL LOOK INTO IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO THE REQUEST IS HAL SAMAMI AND ELLA PRIZER.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE WANTS TO COME AND SPEAK FIRST.

HAL, SAM.

HI, MS. PRESIDENT, DO YOU WANNA START COMING UP? SO, UH, YOU CAN BE NEXT MINUTES .

WE ALSO JUST TWO ALERT.

WE HAVE, UH, TWO ON ZOOM THAT WE HAVE TO SPEAK FROM THERE.

AT LEAST I'M MAKING PEOPLE SMILE.

WELL, I HOPE THIS WON'T BE A REPEAT OF THE SOUNDS OF SILENCE ELSE WILL BE PAYING ROYALTIES TO SIMON AND GARFUNKEL.

SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE TOWN BOARD NOW ALL OF YOU CAN JOIN IN.

WHAT'S THE STATUS OF MY ETHICS BOARD COMPLAINT AGAINST DAVID FREED FIRST DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY? YOU'VE HAD THIS FOR OVER FOUR MONTHS.

WHAT ABOUT MY REQUEST TO HAVE THE RELIGIOUS CROSS REMOVED FROM PRESS PRESSOR PARK? THIS HAS BEEN KNOWN TO THE COMMISSIONER OF PARKS AND TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR OVER THREE MONTHS.

WHAT'S THE STATUS, MR. LEWIS? YOU STEPPED IN FOR MR. FINER AT THE RECENT MEETING AND PROMISED AN UPDATE MID-NOVEMBER.

MR. FINER IN JULY HAD PROMISED AN UPDATE IN MID-SEPTEMBER.

SO I KNOW THIS IS A FEW DAYS SHORT OF MID-NOVEMBER, BUT THE TOWN NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING WILL BE A FEW DAYS AFTER.

SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW ON BEHALF OF TAXPAYERS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE POLICE COURT CAMPUS THAT THE TOWN IS SUPPOSEDLY WANTS TO MOVE AHEAD ON HIRED CONSULTANTS WHO THE TOWN NEVER REVEALED WHAT THE CONSULTANTS TOLD THEM, WHICH WAS AT THAT TIME IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET, 100 HILLSIDE AVENUE.

AND WHAT THE CONSULTANTS ALSO TOLD THE TOWN, IT WOULD COST $85 MILLION, WHICH WAS $50 MILLION OVER THE $35 MILLION BUDGET THAT THE TOWN HAD TOLD C B R E THE PAID CONSULTANT AND THEREAFTER SPENT ANOTHER $250,000 ON THAT LOCATION TO TRY TO PROVE THEIR CONSULTANT WRONG IN THEIR ESTIMATE.

SO I THINK IT'S QUITE REASONABLE FOR TAXPAYERS AS WE'RE GOING INTO BUDGET SEASON, ESPECIALLY TO KNOW THE STATUS OF THIS ACQUISITION.

WHERE DO WE STAND? I'M READY.

YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION TONIGHT, MR. UH, SAMA, BUT WE WILL HAVE IT SHORTLY ON ALL THREE AREAS, RIGHT? YES.

SO YOU HAD SPENT 20 MINUTES DISCUSSING BACK AND FORTH ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING WHEN YOU WOULD MEET AND IN FOUR MONTHS OF SITTING ON THIS INFORMATION, YOU HAVEN'T GOT THAT INFORMATION EITHER YET.

MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE COME BACK IN MARCH INSTEAD OF FEBRUARY BASED UPON THE WAY YOU PROCESS INFORMATION.

WE'RE STILL ON PRIVATE NEGOTIATIONS, SO WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE AT THIS POINT, UM, UNTIL WE CONCLUDE NEGOTIATION.

ARE YOU STILL LOOKING AT 100 HILLSIDE AVENUE? WE, WE CAN'T DISCUSS.

WE'VE BEEN ADVISED TO, NOT THAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS.

WE'VE BEEN ADVISED THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS.

BUT AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE'LL, OKAY.

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YEAH, THAT'S LAUGHTER.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO LAUGH RATHER THAN CRY.

WE CAN'T TELL IF ANYBODY IS SMILING ANYMORE WITH EVERYBODY'S FACES COVERED UP.

WE SHOULD LET YOU HAVE UNLIMITED TIME.

UM, I DON'T THINK I WANNA STAY .

UM, IN TROUBLE WEARING A MASK THIS LONG IS, UH, UH, PAINFUL TO ME TOO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL STAND IT.

UM, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ONE ON THE AGENDA.

I'M SORRY, JUDITH, YOU HAVE TO START THE HEARING.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO, UM, A PUBLIC HEARING ON A CANNABIS AND IT SAYS TO OPT OUT.

IS THAT WHAT THE BOARD'S PLANNING TO DO TO OPT OUT FOR NOW? WELL, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD GIVE US, UH, WOULD OPT OUT AND THE STATE STILL HASN'T COME UP WITH THEIR REGULATIONS.

WELL THAT THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO, BECAUSE UNTIL WE KNOW HOW THE, THE, UM, THINGS ARE GONNA WORK OUT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE OPTING IN.

AND I THINK IF YOU DON'T OPT OUT, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY OPTED IN.

RIGHT? SEE, GREET LINES THINK ALIKE.

BUT TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON OPTING OUT.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE'VE MADE THE DECISION TO OPT OUT, BUT WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING ON OPTING OUT BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO, UM, MY, MY CONCERN WHEN I FIRST READ IT, AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOCAL LAW, AND I WAS HOPING YOU WEREN'T CREATING LOCAL LAWS ABOUT WHERE YOU WERE GONNA PUT THESE FACILITIES.

UM, MR. FINER, I HAVE RECEIVED THREE LETTERS FROM YOU, UM, ALL DATED WITH OCTOBER DATES.

THE, THE LAST ONE, AND THEY'RE ALL THE SAME LETTER, EXCEPT THE LAST ONE INCLUDES AN UPDATE ON THE SHOPRITE.

RIGHT? AS YOU KNOW, SHOPRITE MASTER'S PARKING LOT IS LITERALLY MY BACKYARD, SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, SIX DAYS A WEEK.

AND LATELY, UM, I, I CAN TELL YOU THE, THE BLASTING WAS NOTHING.

DOM CAROLA WAS IN MY BACKYARD FOR EVERY BLAST.

THE BLASTING, UH, THE BLASTER HIMSELF CAME.

I HAD A SEISMOGRAPH IN MY BACKYARD, SO THAT WASN'T PROBLEMATIC.

BUT THE CONSTANT FILTH AND DIRT GO OUT AND LOOK AT MY CAR RIGHT NOW, IN ORDER TO GO ANYWHERE, YOU HAVE TO PUT ON THE WINDSHIELD WASHERS, THE FILTH, EVERY TIME THE WIND BLOWS, ALL THESE TRUCKS.

BUT WHAT YOU SAID IS, UM, THE BLASTING IS COMPLETE AND THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN.

HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE LOT? THERE ARE STILL MOUNTAINS OF DIRT.

THERE'S STILL CRUSHING STONE.

AND IS IT REALLY GONNA TAKE 18 MONTHS MORE? I, I, I CAN TELL YOU I AND SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS WANT TO SCREAM OUT LOUD.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE.

YOU DON'T NEED AN ALARM CLOCK.

YOU'RE UP AT SEVEN O'CLOCK BECAUSE YOU HEAR THIS TEETH JARRING KIND OF, UM, NOISE OUT THERE.

BUT THAT'S MAINLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TONIGHT.

UM, SO NICE SEEING YOU ALL.

I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL BE BACK NOVEMBER 22ND, BUT I I AM VERY HAPPY THAT YOU PUT OVER THE SAM'S CLUB.

I HAVE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT TO SAY ON THAT.

AND I THINK GIVEN HOW THE GAS STATION OWNERS TURNED OUT TONIGHT, YOU SHOULD KNOW THERE'S A REAL PROBLEM OUT THERE.

YOU WANNA ANSWER AFTER THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.

PLEASE TRY AND GET ANY INFORMATION YOU HAVE IN BY JANUARY 9TH.

I WILL VERY DEFINITELY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, SO NOW WE COULD GO, NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE ON ZOOM.

OKAY, GARRETT.

UH, WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS ON ZOOM NAMES.

NOW WE HAVE THREE BECAUSE WE DON'T GET THEM.

MICHELLE BROWN IS FIRST.

MICHELLE BROWN.

AND THERE'S TWO MORE NOW.

CLIFF AND STEPHANIE WAS, UH, SO WHY DON'T WE GET IT? WHY DON'T WE GET, BECAUSE YOU WERE AN IMPACT.

THIS IS, THIS IS, SO YOU'LL NEED TO SAY, OKAY.

I'LL ASK YOU, I'LL TALK LATER.

NO, I DON'T.

HI, THIS IS MICHELLE BROWN.

HOW ARE YOU? IS THIS A THREE MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME? YES.

IT'S, YES.

SHE ON THE SCREEN OR NO? SHE, SHE DOESN'T HAVE HER CAMERA ON PUBLIC.

YES, WE WERE ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

I WENT INTO IT LIKE IT WAS PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T PART OF PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC

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SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PART THAT, MICHELLE, DO YOU WANNA PUT YOUR, YOUR CAM YOUR VIDEO ON? NO.

NO.

UM, I OUT THE BLACK LIVES MATTER IS STILL DOWN 80 TOWN IS NOT INFORMING THE OF THE PLAN, WHAT THE PLAN IS TO PUT BACK FOR THE PLAN TO PLANNING TO DO IT.

THEY'RE NOT BEING INFORMED.

ALLY, I HAD SPOKEN LAST WEEK, SO TO CLIN, I'M SORRY.

IN THE LAST BOARD MEETING, MEETING, ASKING THAT A CONSIDERATION BE MADE FOR A DELIBERATION FLAG TO BE FALLEN AT THE TOWN HALL DURING THE TIME OF DALE, I ALSO SENT A LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD ASKING SUCH THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM ANYBODY ON THE BOARD.

AND I GET NO RESPONSE NOW.

SO WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE SIGN BACK UP AFTER 81 DAYS AND FOR CONVERSATION DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND HAVING CONSIDERED FILING FLAG DURING DAILY SUCH THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DURING THIS, THIS, UM, BLACK MATTER MOVEMENT QUESTION I LIKE TO HAVE HERE DURING MY THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE.

UH, I SPOKE TO YOU AT LENGTH ABOUT PUTTING THE SIGN, PUTTING THE FLAG UP WHEN WE UNVEILED THE SIGNS, UH, AND THAT I SUPPORTED THAT AND THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS IT.

AND, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE REALLY THAT ANYONE ON THE TOWN BOARD HAS ANY OPPOSITION TO THAT.

SO WE DID DISCUSS, WE, WE, WE, WE DID DISCUSS THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW KEN AND I, YOU AND I, YOU AND I HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH PAUL AS WELL.

PAUL WAS TOLD TO WRITE THE TOWN BOARD, BUT THE THING IS, THE TOWN DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THIS HAPPENED.

SO I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

ADDITIONALLY, WHEN IS A SIGN, WHEN WE PUT BACK UP, WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THAT? IT'S 181 DAYS.

THE SIGNS WILL GO BACK UP WHEN THE PROPER MEASURES ARE PUT INTO PLACE.

WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE MEASURES.

AND WHEN THOSE MEASURES ARE IN PLACE, THE SIGNS WILL GO BACK UP.

ANY TIMEFRAME IN THAT? NO.

THERE IS NO TIMEFRAME.

NO TIMEFRAME.

OH, ONE MORE THING.

IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, WHICH IS GREAT, HAVING DIALOGUE DURING OUR MINUTES, WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WHEN WE DO THAT.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO SAY.

CLIFF ABRAMS, THANK IS CLIFF ABRAMS READY? HE'S COMING IN.

WELCOME CLIFF.

YOU'RE ALL SET.

TURN ON.

MUTE YOUR MIC AND GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME LOUD? YES, YES.

YOU KNOW, UM, I'M SITTING HERE WATCHING AND I'M SEEING THE TEMPERAMENT OF HOW THE BOARD ACT WHEN Y'ALL WERE TALKING TO THE SAM CLUB, SEE HOW THE BOARD ACT WHEN ELLEN AND ON CAMERA HAD A NUMBER OF RESPECT FOR HER AND HOW ELI WAS, AND HOW, HOW THESE PEOPLE COULD TALK ALONG.

THEY WANT THROUGH YOUR LAUGHING, SHOWING RESPECT.

AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE ASK MYSELF, MICHELLE COME UP AND HAL WAS TALKING ABOUT, I THINK FRANCIS SAID, DOING WHAT'S RIGHT AND MAKING SURE IT'S RIGHT AND BEING FAIR.

WELL, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE BLACK LIVES MATTER.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SENIOR CITIZENS BEING DISPLACED.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THE , NOT GETTING NO LETTERS TO CONFIRM WHEN THEY COULD COME BACK.

THEY HAVE NOT HAD, THEY HAVE NOT HAD ANY WRITTEN RIGHT OF THEIR LEASE.

NOW WE COME HERE AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT

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THE LITTLE PEOPLE.

THE LITTLE PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A VOICE.

AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO COME AND BE A VOICE, ORDER 'EM, AND YES, IT'S UNCOMMON.

WE TALK ABOUT RACISM AND JUST TELLING GREEN WAS RAISED UP IN, AND WE ALL KNOW A NUMBER OF BIG RACISM HERE BECAUSE THE SIGN WAS WRITTEN DOWN WITHIN 24 HOURS.

SO, AND THEN, AND MR. , YOU KNOW, I GOT NO PROBLEM WITH YOU, BUT I KNOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING AND YOU WANT TO DEFEND THAT HOUSE'S AUTHORITY AND NOT REALLY KNOWING WHAT THEY DOING, AND THEN YOU JUST SHUT US DOWN.

AND THEN I LOOK AT THIS BOARD HERE, AND NOBODY ON THAT BOARD WAS PASSIONATE ENOUGH TO JUMP IN AND SAY, HEY, LET THEM PRESS WHAT THEY TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE ARE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES THAT GOGO THAT CONCERNS US.

AND I'M LOOKING FOR Y'ALL TO HAVE THAT SAME PASSION.

THAT, AND, AND I REMEMBER THE LAST BOARD WAS THAT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR QUESTIONS THAT COME BACK, Y'ALL SAID, Y'ALL DEAL WITH THE QUESTIONS LATER, BUT I HAD A Q AND A JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO, AND THIS IS THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE SAY ABOUT THE UNPREPAREDNESS, THE UNDERCOVER RACISM THAT GOES ON.

AND YES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE BLACK TO BE A RACIST AGAINST BLACKS.

WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR? YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE BLACK.

WE ARE RACIST AGAINST BLACK AND IT MAKE NO SENSE.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE NOBODY ON THAT BOARD THERE WHO FEEL, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE BLACK LIVES MATTER, BLACK ISSUES, WHEN IT COME TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THE DISPLACEMENT, THEY DON'T SHOW THAT SAME PASSION THAT THEY DO WHEN SOMEBODY TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE GAS STATIONS STUFF.

IT'S DISTURBING.

STEPHANIE IS NEXT, ACTUALLY, UM, THERE IS SOMEONE NEXT TO SPEAK.

STEPHANIE? OR BOTH.

OH, 'CAUSE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO EVERYBODY IN PERSON.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M SORRY.

I'M LAST.

WELL, SHE'S COMING IN ANYWAY.

SO STEPHANIE, OKAY.

SO MARY AFTER STEPHANIE.

DOWN IN'S BACKYARD, IT WOULD'VE CAME DOWN TO THE BACKYARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, FIRST FOREMOST, I WANT YOU, UM, CAN GO ASSIST MY FRIEND, COUNSEL CLERK JUDY , OUR PHY ASSIST FROM THE BURROWS FAMILY AND THE SWAN FAMILY GO OUT TO YOU AND YOUR MOMENT OF SILENCE TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

GOD BLESS YOU AND WE LOVE YOU.

UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME.

YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME.

MR. BILL.

UM, FURTHER THE MOST, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, COUNCILOR TIM LEWIS, COUNCIL MAR COUNCILMAN AND OF COURSE MIGHTY LOVING TOWN SUPERVISOR, MR. STEINER.

AND I TRULY MEAN THAT , UM, BUT ALSO, UM, IES.

I WELCOME THAT.

I USUALLY AGREE WITH YOU, ELEANOR, BUT I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU NOW, AND I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY HOME BY NOW, BUT WHEN YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING PERTAINING TO THE BLASTING, MY BEDROOM WINDOW IS 20 FEET FROM THE BLASTING ZONE.

I'VE HAD THREE PORTRAITS FALL OFF MY WALL.

I HAVE CATS AND THEY SCURRY AND I CAN'T FIND THEM FOR HOURS.

AND THEY'VE NEVER BEEN OUT THAT HOUSE.

I DID THAT.

AND FURTHERMORE, SHE HAD PEOPLE IN HER BACKYARD MEASURING THE SOUND FREQUENCY AND THE BLASTING AND ALL OF THAT.

WHAT IS, IS IT BECAUSE THE COLOR OF MY SKIN THAT I DON'T GET THAT TYPE OF TREATMENT? BECAUSE I ACTUALLY CONTACTED GARRETT.

I BROKE PAUL CLIENT.

PAUL DID TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION.

THAT'S WHY I CALL YOU MY FRIEND BECAUSE THE BLASTING DID STOP BECAUSE I LIVE AT THE BOTANICAL, UH, PARK APARTMENTS THAT ARE NOW NEW YORK HEIGHTS, L L C AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SAM'S.

I KNEW THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A GAS STATION TOO.

UM, BUT I WAS, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WANTED IT THAT BADLY.

SO WHAT YOU GONNA, YOU GONNA HAVE THREE CONSTRUCTIONS GOING ON AT THE STATE TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF US OVER HERE AT THE GREENBURG OF A HEIGHTS, LL STATE WITH THIS DISPLACEMENT NEST.

AND THE REASON WHY I HAD TO CALL IN TONIGHT AND SPEAK IS THAT WHEN, BECAUSE OF WHAT ELEANOR SAID, BUT THE FACT DOESN'T MATTER IS, IS THAT WE LIVE HERE AND THERE'S A WOMAN WHO IS EXPECTING A CHILD DOWN.

IF THIS HAD BEEN IN

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OH GIRL, THIS IS AFFECTING THE PENIS.

AND BAHA THAT SAT THE OTHER.

AND, AND WE ALSO HAD A, UM, RESIDENT WHO SUFFERS FROM ASTHMA.

AWFULLY CAN BE TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL ALMOST THREE TIMES IN AN AMBULANCE.

OUR KIDS THIS SUMMER COULD NOT COME OUTSIDE.

WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY WAS WITHIN 20 FEET OF YOUR PROPERTY AND PICTURES FELL OFF THE WALL FROM THE BLAST.

UH, I JUST WANNA MENTION ONE IDEA THAT I THINK WOULD BE, UH, REALLY, UM, GREAT.

I SENT THE TOWN BOARD A A NOTE EARLIER TODAY.

UH, I WAS OUT OF TOWN, UM, THIS, UH, THIS PAST WEEKEND.

AND I TOOK A PHOTO OF A CONSTRUCTION SITE THAT BASICALLY HAD, UM, A BIG SIGN SAYING JOB SITE HOURS OF OPERATION.

UM, AND THEY LISTED MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, UH, THE TIMES THAT, UM, UH, THAT IT COULD, YOU KNOW, BE, UH, THERE COULD BE CONSTRUCTION THE SATURDAY AND SUNDAY HOURS.

AND THEN THEY, UH, INDICATED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONSTRUCTION MUST, UH, CONFORM WITH A SCHEDULE.

AND I THOUGHT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, NOT A LOT.

I GET SOME COMPLAINTS, UM, EVERY YEAR.

UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE DOING WORK, THERE'S CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES DOING WORK ON HOMES.

UH, THERE'S CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES DOING, UM, BLASTING OR, UM, OR CONSTRUCTION OF, YOU KNOW, LARGER, UH, BUILDINGS.

AND I THOUGHT THAT A LARGE SIGN IN FRONT OF THE CONSTRUCTION SITE INDICATING THE HOURS WHEN IT'S AUTHORIZED WOULD BE, UM, UH, WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE, UH, THE RESIDENTS WOULD, WOULD KNOW, UH, WHAT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE AND WHEN THEY'LL BE INCONVENIENCE.

AND ALSO, UM, THE, THE CONTRACTOR AND CONSTRUCTION, UH, FIRMS WOULD KNOW THAT, UM, THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE THAT THEY'LL BE REPORTED IF THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

SO I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE THE TOWN TO DO SOMETHING, UH, LIKE THAT.

IT WAS A GIGANTIC SIGN AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOW IN, IN NEW YORK.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF GREENBURG WOULD DO THE SAME THING.

STEPHANIE, DID YOU SAY THAT THE BLAST WENT OFF 20 FEET FROM YOUR APARTMENT OR HOUSE? MY, UH, MY APARTMENT'S NOT EVEN, I MUST'VE MAYBE 50, 50 FEET FROM MY BEDROOM WINDOW.

THAT'S HOW, BECAUSE I, IT GOES INTO THE BOTANICAL PARK APARTMENTS.

WE'RE RIGHT NEXT.

WE'RE RIGHT BEHIND KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN WHERE K C IS.

WE'RE RIGHT THERE.

WHEN YOU COME UP BACK, WE HAVE THE UM, UH, K F C AND YOU MAKE THAT, UH, WHAT IS IT THAT RIGHT, YOU PUT AROUND THE WINE DETAIL AND THEN YOU ARE UP, YOU GO PAST THE, UH, THE PLAYGROUND, WHICH ARE OVER TO THE, UH, LEFT.

THERE'S THAT LITTLE YELLOW HOUSE, AND THEN THERE'S THE, UH, THE GARBAGE DECEPT THERE TO YOU.

RIGHT? THAT OPEN SPACE RIGHT THERE.

IT IS ALMOST LIKE SCAFFOLD.

IT LOOKS LIKE A GIANT SANDBOX FOR A, FOR A, FOR A LLR, IT CAN BE TRAVEL TO AN ISLAND.

THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

MY BEDROOM THERE, UM, IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE GARBAGE.

SO IF I'M UNIT 62 DASH ONE AND IT'S FACING WHEN YOU COME UP THE HILL, WE HAVE NOT HAD A COUNCIL PERSON ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THEY WERE STARTED BLASTING.

WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ANY SIGN.

NO, THIS IS ANYTHING THERE WERE ANY NO BLASTING, UH, UH, UH, SIGN SAYING BLASTING ZONE.

WHEN YOU GO ON ANY THROUGHWAY IN NEW YORK STATE, AT LEAST THEY HAVE SIGNS SAYING, UH, BE CAREFUL OF LOCK BEING BLASTING.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE NONE OF THAT.

NONE OF THAT.

AND I USE A ROLL LATER.

I CAN'T GET ALL I HAVE, I GO TO MY HOUSE ONCE A MONTH AND THAT'S JUST TO GO INTO THE ELMSFORD SQUARE TO DO MY ERRANDS, AND THEN I'M BACK HOME WITHIN THAT HOUR.

SO, MR. FINER, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN EXACTLY DID THAT SIGN GO UP? I WAS SIGNS THAT I'M PROPOSING, UH, I'M JUST NO, NO.

LET, LEMME JUST, LEMME JUST STAY ON MY, MY SO BLASTING IS A HIGHLY REGULATED EVENT.

YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT TO HAVE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS OUT AT A BLAST SITE.

YOU WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE A BLASTING INSPECTOR WHO'S CERTIFIED TO HANDLE THESE THINGS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO DAMAGE TO ANYBODY'S PROPERTY.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE PICTURES OF FOUNDATIONS PRIOR TO, AND THEN AFTER THE BLASTING IS OVER, UH, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THEY WERE BLASTING,

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THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.

SO WE HAD ANTHONY ZELLO, UH, HERE FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

I'M NOT GONNA ASK YOU TO COME UP.

UH, BUT, UM, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO SPEAK TO DOMINIC, WHO IS OUR BLASTING INSPECTOR AND FIND OUT WHAT BLASTING WAS DONE IN THE VICINITY OF HER PROPERTY.

AND ALSO IS A SIZE ON THE HOUSING, UH, AUTHORITY PROPERTY REQUIRED.

AND SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT, UM, WE, WE WOULD NEED.

'CAUSE SHE'S, SHE IS ASSERTING THAT THERE WAS PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT GIVEN TO ELLA.

ELLA CAME TO A HEARING ON, I CAN HANDLE THIS ELLA .

I DON'T, I DIDN'T NEED YOU TO WALK UP.

UM, ELLA CAME TO A HEARING ON THIS BECAUSE SHE HAS RADIANT HEAT IN THE FLOOR, AND IT WAS ESTABLISHED THAT BLASTING COULD BREAK THE PIPES IN THE FLOOR OF HER PROPERTY.

AND SO SHE ASKED TO HAVE SOME METERING DONE BECAUSE SHE WILL NEVER KNOW UNTIL SHE RUNS THE WATER THAT THERE WAS A FAILURE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU HEAR ELLA PRIZER HAD SOMETHING, IT'S BECAUSE SHE CAME TO A HEARING AND ASKED FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF HEATING THAT'S IN HER FLOOR THAT SHE WOULD HAVE TO RIP OUT HER ENTIRE FOUNDATION THAT HER HOUSE IS SITTING ON.

UH, BECAUSE IT'S A SLAB THAT HAS THE, THE, THE, THE PIPES IN IT.

UH, BUT LET'S FIND OUT ABOUT YOUR SITUATION.

NOT SO MUCH ABOUT HERS BECAUSE, BUT AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS A SEMO GRAPH AT THE STANDARD SITE.

I KNOW WHERE ALL OF THE SITES I, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'D RATHER GET A REPORT FROM OUR BLASTING INSPECTOR WHO IS CERTIFYING THE INTENSITY OF THE BLASTS, WHAT THE EFFECT OF EACH BLAST WAS.

NUMBER ONE, FRANCIS, I HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN.

SO, UM, ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT BLASTING? I MEAN, NO, WE WILL, I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT ALL THE BLASTS WERE WAY UNDER THE PERMITTED.

THEY WERE, THEY WERE MUCH, MUCH UNDER WHAT WAS PERMITTED.

AND, UH, WE WILL GET THOSE, THOSE RECORDS AND THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.

WE'LL CHECK WITH THE BLASTING INSPECTOR.

GASOLINE STATIONS WILL BE BUILT.

I, I KNOW WHEN I DID GO OUT, YOU SAY, I SAID BEFORE YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT TO HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER OUTTA BLAST SITE, BUT I DID GO OUT TO ONE BLAST SITE AND IT WAS RATHER UNEVENTFUL, RIGHT? I WAS EXPECTING TO HAVE THIS BOOM AND THEY PUT DOWN, THEY PUT DOWN THESE MATS, AND THEN THEY, THEY BLOW THE WHISTLE AND THE NEXT THING IT GOES, BOOM, OKAY? WHEN IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

AND THAT'S, AND THAT, AND, AND, AND THAT'S IT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT HIS JOB IS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, BE IT, UM, LOAD THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING FOR THE PARTICULAR JOB THAT THEY'RE DOING.

BUT LET'S FIND OUT IN YOUR SPECIFIC SITUATION, WHAT WAS DONE, WHERE WAS IT DONE, WHERE ARE THE METERS? UH, BECAUSE IT SHOULD NOT KNOCK PICTURES OFF OF THE WALL.

BUT FRANCIS, IF I MAY, IN THAT, AND, UM, ELLA, I WANNA A YOU, I'M NOTING MY RACK OUT ON, ON ELEANOR.

ELEANOR IS A FRIEND AND AN ADVERSARY OF MINE.

WHAT I'M SAYING, THE FIRST, I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA.

I LIVE IN LOSO, THE FIRST EARTH, THE FIRST BLAST THAT WENT OFF, I THOUGHT, I THINK IT WAS AN EARTHQUAKE AT FIRST BECAUSE 45TH WAS STILL IN OFFICE.

I THOUGHT HE HAD SAID SOMETHING STUPID.

AND WE WERE AT WAR.

THAT'S HOW BAD THE BLAST SOUND.

WE GOT NO WARNING OR NOTHING.

THIS WAS THE FIRST DAY OF THE BLASTING.

THERE WAS NO WHISTLE.

THERE WAS NO NOTHING UNTIL AFTER I STARTED CALLING GARY.

NO, CHRISTINE GARRETT AT, UM, THE CSS, THE, THE G A, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE G A S R MEETINGS.

AND I BROUGHT IT UP TO HIM AND I MADE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS AND SAID HE WOULD LOOK INTO IT AND GARY HAD SAID, I'VE NEVER BEEN TO THE SITE.

YOU KNOW, SO I FOUND THAT TO BE KIND OF SHOCKING.

AND FRANCIS, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO THE SITE, BUT I WISH WE HAD BEEN HERE MONTHS PRIOR, BEFORE THEY STARTED SETTING, WAS THE RIGHT TRUCK THAT CAME OUT, BECAUSE I SEE EVERYTHING FROM THE ENTRANCE OF MY UNIT.

WELL, AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I WAS A TOUR OFFICER.

NO ONE GOT THROUGH WOODLAND HIGH SCHOOL, NO ONE GOT OUT OF WOODLAND HIGH SCHOOL UNLESS THEY CAME THROUGH MS. WAN.

SO THAT'S HOW IT'S FOR ME OVER HERE, BECAUSE THAT IS MY COMMUNITY.

THAT ALL THANK YOU MS. WAN.

MR. BODEN, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? GLOBAL WARMING DEFINES THE FUTURE, MR. BO NO

[02:45:01]

YOU HAVE TO WEAR MASK.

PUT YOUR, YOU GOTTA PUT YOUR MASK ON.

MASK.

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES STATES NEED TO WEAR A MASK.

NO.

THE LAW SAYS YOU HAVE YEP.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DISABILITY RELATED TO WEARING A MASK IS THE LAW.

IF YOU OBEY THE LAW LIKE THE SHERIFF, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A RECESS? I GOTTA GO TO THE BATHROOM.

I, I CAN'T ENFORCE IT.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE A RECESS.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO END THE MEETING.

A RECESS.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO END THE MEETING.

LET'S, LET'S JUST MOVE ON.

LET'S, LET'S JUST HAVE THE VOTE.

LET'S JUST THEN MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA.

I'D LIKE TO, UH, MOVE, UH, GRIN ON YOUR WAY BACK.

ONE RESOLUTION RATIFYING A MEMO OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATION.

UM, T

[ TB 1 - 11/10/2021 Resolution ratifying a memorandum of agreement (MOA) between the Town of Greenburgh and Civil Service Employees Association (CSEA) Local 1000 AFSCME, AFL-CIO to recognize, incorporate and include a title of a Senior Office Assistant-Comptroller in the current agreement]

UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.

UH, RESOLUTION RATIFYING A MEMO OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG AND CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATION.

AND GINA CAN VOTE WHEN SHE COMES BACK.

TB TWO,

[ TB 2 - 11/10/2021 Resolution ratifying a memorandum of agreement (MOA) between the Town of Greenburgh and Civil Service Employees Association (CSEA) Local 1000 AFSCME, AFL-CIO to recognize, incorporate and include a title of a Maintenance Mechanic (Utility) into the current agreement]

UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

WELL WE WE'RE DOING INCLUDING A TITLE, UH, OF MAINTENANCE MECHANIC.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT OF PROPERTY DAMAGE RELATED CLAIM FILE 1 1 8 21 C BY MARGARET, UH, BAD FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,925 AND 2 CENTS.

THE OTHER ONE IS THE SENIOR OFFICE ASSISTANT.

[ AT 1 - 11/10/2021 Resolution authorizing settlement of property damage related Claim File, No.: 118/21C, by Margaret Battestin, for an amount not to exceed $1,925.02]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT TEN SECOND.

AUTHORIZING TAX ARY SETTLEMENT OF PETITIONER HOLY SPIRIT ASSOCIATION OF THE UNIFICATION OF WORLD CHRISTIANITY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 13 AMERAL WOODS.

RESOLUTION

[ AT 2 - 11/10/2021 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Holy Spirit Association of the Unification of World Christianity for property located at 13 Emerald Woods. The Town’s share of the refund is $903±; the County’s share is $6,658±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $909±; the Irvington Union Free School District’s share is $38,111±. Refunds from all sources total $46,581±]

TIMESHARE OF THE REFUND IS, UH, IS 9 0 3 REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES 46,581.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

RESOLUTION RESCIND THE MATTER RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RETENTION OF CHRISTOPHER CALABRESE CRES L L C FOR THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $3,000.

[ AT 3 - 11/10/2021 Resolution rescinding prior resolution AT- 4 – 10/13/2021 approving the retention of Christopher Calabrese, Crash Vector, LLC., in the matter of Stephen Decristofaro v. the Town of Greenburgh and Town of Greenburgh Police Department, and P.O. Geoffrey Hart for an amount not to exceed $3,000]

RESOLUTION SCHEDULING.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON IS GOING TO BE VOTING, UH, ON TB ONE TB TWO TB, UH, A T ONE A T TWO AND A T THREE.

ONE, UH, RESOLUTION SCHEDULING OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR 7:30 PM MONDAY, NOVEMBER 22ND TO CONSIDER LOCAL LAW, WHICH WOULD ADD A NEW SECTION TO THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED CANNABIS REGARDING LOCAL MUNICIPAL OPT OUT OF BATTLE, USE CANNABIS ON SITE CONSUMPTION BUSINESSES.

UH, C

[ CL 1 - 11/10/2021 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for 7:30 PM, Monday, November 22, 2021, to consider a Local Law which would add a new section (Chapter 335) to the Code of the Town of Greenburgh, entitled “Cannabis,” regarding local municipal opt-out of adult use cannabis on-site consumption businesses (and Cannabis retail dispensaries)]

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.

A NEGATIVE DECK, UH, FOR THIS SECRET DETERMINATION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE RESOLUTION ISSUING

[ CD 1 - 11/10/2021 Resolution issuing a Negative Declaration for the SEQRA determination of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh with respect to a project involving design, regulatory compliance, grants, permitting, and construction of water infrastructure improvements at 21 Stadium Road and 290 Worthington Road (P.O. White Plains, NY)]

WITH RESPECT TO A PROJECT INVOLVING DESIGN REGULATORY COMPLIANCE, GRANTS PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION OF WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AT 21 STADIUM ROAD AND TWO 90 WORTHINGTON ROAD.

LIKE TO MOVE A SECOND.

ALL FAVOR, AYE.

UM, AFFIRMING THE TOWN OF TOWN BOARD OF GREENBURG APPROVES VARIOUS EXEMPTIONS FROM THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG RELATED TO, UH, PROPOSED BORDER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

RESOLUTION,

[ CD 2 - 11/10/2021 Resolution affirming that the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh approves various exemptions from the Code of the Town of Greenburgh related to proposed water infrastructure improvements at 21 Stadium Road and 290 Worthington Road (P.O. White Plains, NY)]

21 STADIUM ROAD, THE TWO 90 WORTHINGTON ROAD.

AND EXTENSION OF A PRIOR AMENDED SITE PLAN.

RESOLUTION GRANTING

[ CD 3 - 11/10/2021 Resolution granting an extension of a prior Amended Site Plan Approval of an application by BMR Ardsley Park LLC, for property located at 410-460 Saw Mill River Road (P.O. Ardsley, NY)]

APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION BY B M R LEY PARK FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT FOUR TEN FOUR SIXTY SAW MILL RIVER ROAD.

LEY, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.

THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AFFIRMING THAT FAIRVIEW WATER STORAGE TANK REPLACEMENT PROJECT AND RELATED ACTIONS CONSTITUTE A TYPE TWO ACTION UNDER SEEGER.

RESOLUTION OF

[ CD 4 - 11/10/2021 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh affirming that the Fairview Water Storage Tank Replacement Project and related actions constitute a Type 2 Action under SEQRA]

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING MILLIMAN TO PERFORM AN ACTUAL REVIEW, UH, PURSUANT TO GA SBY STATEMENT NUMBER 75 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021, 2022 AT AN ANNUAL COST NOT TO EXCEED 19,000.

UM,

[ CO 1 - 11/10/2021 Resolution authorizing Milliman, Inc. to perform an Actuarial Review pursuant to GASB Statement No. 75 for Fiscal Year 2021-2022, at an annual cost not to exceed $19,000]

APPROVING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGES FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021 TO INCREASE THE APPROPRIATION FOR CABLE EQUIPMENT AND INCREASE THE APPROPRIATION OF PEG FUND BALANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF 134,000 FOR THE UPGRADE OF THE TOWN HALL AUDITORIUM AND CONTROL ROOM STUDIO WITH DIGITAL AND HIGH DEFINITION TO CABLE BROADCAST EQUIPMENT.

RESOLUTION

[ CO 2 - 11/10/2021 Resolution approving a Budget Amendment to the Town Outside Villages (TOV) Fund for Fiscal Year 2021 to increase the appropriation for cable equipment and increase the appropriation of PEG Fund Balance in an amount of $134,000 for the upgrade of the Town Hall Auditorium and Control Room Studio with Digital and High Definition Cable Broadcast Equipment]

AND ENDORSING SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION FOR GRANT FUNDS IN CONNECTION WITH THE NEW YORK STATE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT ACT AND THE NEW YORK STATE INTO MUNICIPAL WATER INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS PROGRAM FOR NORWOOD CONTRACT CONTACT TANK AND ML CHEMICAL FEED STATION PROJECT.

[ PW 1 - 11/10/2021 Resolution authorizing and endorsing the submission of an application for grant funds in connection with the New York State Water Infrastructure Improvement Act (WIIA) and the NYS Inter-Municipal Water Infrastructure Grants Program (IMG) for the Knollwood Contact Tank and Chemical Feed Station Project]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.

AUTHORIZING AND, AND ENDORSING THE SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION FOR GRANT FUNDS IN CONNECTION WITH THE NEW YORK STATE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT ACT AND THE NEW YORK STATE INTO MUNICIPAL WATER INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS PROGRAM FOR THE FAIRVIEW WATER STORAGE

RESOLUTION

[ PW 2 - 11/10/2021 Resolution authorizing and endorsing the submission of an application for grant funds in connection with the New York State Water Infrastructure Improvement Act (WIIA) and the NYS Inter-Municipal Water Infrastructure Grants Program (IMG) for the Fairview Water Storage Tank Replacement Project]

[02:50:01]

TANK REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AMENDMENT OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ARCHA OF NEW YORK FOR DESIGN CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SUPPORT AND INSPECTION TO THE CONSOLIDATED WATER DISTRICT.

[ PW 3 - 11/10/2021 Resolution authorizing an amendment of a Professional Services Agreement with Arcadis of New York, Inc. for design, construction management, support, and inspection to the Consolidated Water District for addition of Resiliency & Security Measures, not to exceed an additional $36,470]

IN ADDITION OF RESILIENCY AND SECURITY MEASURES, NOT TO EXCEED AN ADDITIONAL 36,470.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR A AYE AYE, UM,

[ TY 1 – 10/11/2021 Resolution accepting on behalf of the Department of Community Resources, a $100 donation from Brenda Tucker to help support the programs at the Theodore D. Young Community Center]

RESOLUTION ACCEPTING ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES A HUNDRED DOLLARS DONATION FROM BRENDA TUCKER TO HELP SUPPORT THE PROGRAMS AT THE, THE OF YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER.

AUTHORIZING PERSONAL FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES TO TRAVEL TO VARIOUS S COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IN VIRGINIA AT A TO TOTAL COST, NOT TO EXCEED 11,000 306 51 OF WHICH 3000 WILL BE PAID BY PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS.

I'M FINALLY RESOLUTION

[ TY 2 – 11/10/2021 Resolution authorizing personnel from the Department of Community Resources to travel to various colleges and universities in Virginia from November 18-21, 2021, at a total cost not to exceed $11,306.51, of which $3,000 will be paid by program participants]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE CLIFF, UH, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, UM, CLIFF, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HAND UP? CLIFF DID.

IS YOUR HAND LEFT UP FROM BEFORE OR DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN? I GUESS WE SHOULD THEN ADJOURN.