* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. YES, WE HAVE A QUORUM [00:00:01] AND I'D LIKE TO GET GOING. UM, I GUESS I HAVE TO SAY. GOT IT. WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT. OKAY. OOPS. SO WHAT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE MEETING [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL Agenda THURSDAY, January 13, 2022 – 6:30 P.M. ] NOW, AND AS USUAL, THE FIRST THING WE HAVE IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, WHICH DONNA DID A WONDERFUL JOB ON. UM, SO WE HAVE THE MINUTES OF DECEMBER 9TH. IS WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MOVE TO ACCEPT THOSE MINUTES? I MOVE. THANK YOU. . SECOND. I SECOND. WHO WAS THAT? NANCY. NANCY. NANCY. NANCY. OKAY. SO THAT WAS DONNA AND NANCY. UM, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. LET'S DO THE SAME. A SAME THING NOW FOR THE OTHER SET FOR DECEMBER 14TH. I MAKE A MOTION. WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? I MOTION. THANK YOU DONNA. I SECOND. SECOND. MARGARET WAS THAT OR NANCY? MARGARET. THAT WAS NANCY. IT WAS NANCY. SORRY. NANCY. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. GOT, WE GOT A HOUSEKEEPING DONE. OKAY. WHO, WHO SECONDED? UH, IT WAS SECONDED. I DID NANCY. NANCY. NANCY. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A CASE BEFORE US THIS EVENING FOR REGENERON. AND I GUESS THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A MIX UP. WE NEVER GOT IT MAILED, BUT AARON DID SEND IT OUT TODAY TO US JUST AS A LEVEL SET. REMEMBER THESE FOLKS WERE IN WITH A PROJECT IN THE SUMMER THAT HAD A PARKING LOT. AND I BELIEVE, AS I UNDERSTAND THIS, THIS IS ADDITIONAL PARKING IN THE SAME AREA. AND AARON HAS ASKED THE APPLICANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION SINCE MOST OF US GOT THE MATERIALS THAT ARE RATHER LATE TIME TODAY. SO YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO FULLY LOOK AT THEM THE WAY WE NORMALLY WOULD. AND OF COURSE THIS IS ALWAYS A COMPLICATED PROJECT 'CAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF MOVING STUFF AROUND AS THEY'RE TRYING TO HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT, BUT THEY HAVE TO LIKE, MOVE CARS OUT OF AN AREA SO THEY CAN BUILD, THEY HAVE TO PUT THE CARS SOMEWHERE. SO WITH THAT, I THINK MAYBE YOU WANT TO ADMIT THE APPLICANT, AARON, SO WE CAN START. YES, I'LL DO THAT. AND, AND BEFORE I DO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE. HAPPY, HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE. HAPPY NEW YEAR. I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE MIX UP WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE HARD COPIES. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT. UM, DONNA, THANKS FOR EMAILING THIS MORNING SO THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING OUT ELECTRONICALLY. I DID ASK, AS TERRY MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT TO GO THROUGH A RATHER DETAILED PRESENTATION THIS EVENING FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE MEMBERS THAT ARE ON. AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO DO THAT. THEY HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION WITH SLIDES. I'VE ASKED THEM TO GO SLOWLY, UH, SO THAT EVERYONE CAN FOLLOW ALONG AND THAT THERE LIKELY MAY BE QUESTIONS THAT THEY SHOULD BE PREPARED TO RECEIVE AND THEN ANSWER. SO I'M GONNA INVITE THEM IN AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. WELCOME EVERYONE. WE'LL JUST, UH, LET THOSE THAT ARE GONNA CONNECT WITH AUDIO AND VIDEO TO DO SO, AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE PROJECT TEAM. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. BETTY HAD A LAST NAME . I, I'M NOT SURE WHO BETTY IS. DOES ANYONE ON THE PROJECT TEAM KNOW WHO BETTY IS? AND IF SO, CAN YOU LET US KNOW YOU'RE ALL MUTED BECAUSE I HAD SET IT UP SO THAT YOU'RE ALL MUTED WHEN YOU COME INTO THE MEETING ROOM. I DON'T KNOW, BETTY, COULD YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF? THAT'S PROBABLY, THAT'S PROBABLY STEVE SPINA. UM, OH, I WOULD GUESS, YEAH. BETTY'S A STREET NAME. SO . . HOW DO YOU SPEND SPELL HIS LAST NAME? SS P I N A. OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. OKAY. I JUST TOOK CARE OF [00:05:01] THAT. SO WE'LL ASSUME THAT BETTY IS STEVEN SINA FOR NOW. THANK YOU. MICHAEL. SEE IN WITNESS PROTECTION OR SOMETHING. , THAT'S HIS WIFE'S NAME. SO HE WAS PROBABLY LOGGED IN UNDER HER ACCOUNT. OH, HER NAME. YEAH, THAT'S WHICH IS FINE. YEAH. YEAH, I THINK WE'LL JUST SCARED HIM OFF. I DON'T SEE HIM ANYMORE. OH, NOW HE'S STEVE SPEEDING AGAIN. THERE HE IS. OH, OKAY. VERY GOOD. YEAH. OKAY. AND JUST TO SORT THIS OUT, OBVIOUSLY BETH EVANS, I KNOW YOU'RE WITH BETH EVANS ASSOCIATES. UM, WHO ELSE IS WITH YOU? UH, JANET GARRIS IS HERE, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. ROB YOU ROBELLO, UH, AND STEVE SPINA, UM, ARE THE ONES THAT COME IMMEDIATELY TO MINE, BUT I CAN SEE. AND MIKE AND MIKE THOMPSON ALSO. MIKE AND MIKE THOMPSON. EXCUSE ME, MIKE. AND I'M KIM MARTIN FROM REGENERON. OKAY. YOU'RE REGENERON. THANK YOU. OKAY. WHENEVER YOU FOLKS WANNA BEGIN. SURE. UM, ALL RIGHT, I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN. UM, AND THEN YOU CAN START US OFF. SURE. THANK YOU CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. UH, AS YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS JANET GARRIS. I'M A PARTNER WITH DELBELLO DENELLE AND WEINGARTEN WISEMAN WHITAKER. AND I'M HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. UM, AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, THE APPLICANT RECEIVED, UH, STEEP SLOPES AND WETLAND PERMITS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF, UH, A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS APPLICATION FOR, UH, TO CREATE A TEMPORARY AREA FOR CONSTRUCTION STAGING, UH, AND CONSTRUCTION EMPLOYEE PARKING, WHICH WAS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW, UH, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BUILDING THAT WE REFER TO AS PARCEL D ON THE REGENERON CAMPUS. UM, AND WE WERE BEFORE YOU IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, UM, FOR, UH, FOR THE APPROVALS THAT WE GOT FROM, FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FOR, UH, WETLAND APPRO, UH, WETLAND PERMIT APPROVALS AND SLOPES PERMITS. BUT YOU GUYS, UM, LOOKED AT THE WETLAND PERMIT SINCE THOSE APPROVALS WERE GRANTED. UM, AND AS THE APPLICANT HAS BEGUN TO REFINE ITS PLANS FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT CONTRACTOR PARKING AREA AND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PARCEL D FACILITY, THEY'VE, UH, DETERMINED THAT ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY PARKING IS NECESSARY ON THE PROPERTY TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS WHILE BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE, UH, TO MAINTAIN ADEQUATE PARKING FOR REGENERON EMPLOYEES. SO WE HAVE, UM, FILED AN APPLICATION TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR SOME TEMPORARY ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY PARKING ON THE PROPERTY. AND THAT ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY PARKING ALSO REQUIRES A WETLAND PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH IS HOW IT GOT TO YOU. SO, UM, YOU'VE GOT, I THINK, UH, MIKE, YOU WERE GONNA SHARE YOUR SCREEN WITH, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE POWERPOINT THAT WE PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU, UM, TO SHARE. YEAH. CAN YOU NOT SEE IT? NO, I CAN'T SEE IT. NO, WE CANNOT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU GO. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO JUST TO ORIENT YOU A LITTLE BIT, AND, AND MIKE, IF YOU COULD HELP ME OUT BY POINTING UNTIL I TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION ALONG WITH BETH. UM, BUT, UH, JUST TO, TO ORIENT YOU, SO YOU SEE THE, UM, IN THE YELLOW IS THE, WHOOPS, OOPS, THERE YOU GO. SO THE YELLOW AREA IS THE SOUTH CAMPUS, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THAT YELLOW AREA THE PARCEL D AND THEN THE PURPLE PROPERTY IS THE LOOP ROAD HOLDINGS PROPERTY. AND THAT PROPERTY IS THE SUBJECT OF, UH, THIS EVENING'S APPLICATION. SO THERE IS PROPOSED, UH, AT THE SAWMILL RIVER ROAD AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE ON THIS ONE. SO, UM, A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR. THERE YOU GO. SO WE'VE GOT, UH, THE APPROVED, UM, PARCEL D BUILDING, THE P M P D BUILDING THAT YOU SEE ON THIS PLAN, AND THEN THE PROPOSED PARKING STRUCTURE. AND THEN IF YOU CAN FLIP AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, SO WE ALSO HAVE TEMPORARY PARKING, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN. THAT'S WHAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN SEPTEMBER. AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, UM, IN CONNECTION WITH THE REFINEMENT OF ITS DRAWINGS AND AS IT'S GETTING CLOSER, AS THEY'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE CONSTRUCTION, THEY'VE DETERMINED THAT THEY'VE NEED THAT, THEY NEED SOME ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY PARKING. SO WHAT WE'RE [00:10:01] PROPOSING IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF 385 ADDITIONAL TEMPORARY PARKING SPACES ON THE PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT MIKE IS SHOWING YOU RIGHT NOW. AND, UM, AS, AS WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN, WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF THIS TEMPORARY LOT FOR THE DURATION OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CAMPUS PROJECT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED TO BE FIVE YEARS. AND THEN AFTER THAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS COMPLETED, THIS AREA WILL BE REMOVED AND THE DISTURBED AREA RESTORED AND LANDSCAPED. UM, SO THIS AREA WAS SPECIFICALLY CHOSEN BECAUSE IT IS, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF OF IT, BUT ALSO, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY BECAUSE IT'S ALSO IN AN AREA THAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISTURBED. UM, IT WAS USED BY SDOT FOR ITS STAGING AND PARKING IN CONNECTION WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROUNDABOUT. AND, UM, SO, UM, SO THAT'S WHY THIS WAS CHOSEN. AND, AND ALTHOUGH WE ARE PROPOSING THE DISTURBANCE OF SOME OF THE WETLAND BUFFER AREA THAT IS THERE, UM, BY DOING THAT, WE ARE PRESERVING, UH, AND, AND NOT DISTURBING STEEP SLOPES. AND WE ARE, UM, PRESERVING SOME ADDITIONAL TREES THAT WOULD'VE OTHERWISE HAD TO BE, UH, RELOCATED. SO, UM, I DON'T WANNA WASTE MORE OF YOUR TIME. UM, I'LL LET THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT IT, UM, SPEAK MORE PROFESSIONALLY. WE'VE GOT MIKE THOMPSON FROM J M C AND BETH EVANS, OUR WETLAND CONSULTANT. AND, UH, THEY CAN TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PARKING AREA. BETH CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE WETLAND AND THE WETLAND BUFFER AREA AND, UH, WHY WE'RE SEEKING THE WETLAND PERMIT. ALRIGHT, THANKS JANET. UM, SO YEAH, SO AS SHE MENTIONED, THIS AREA HERE WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. THIS IS A, UM, CONTRACTOR LOT AND A PARKING, TEMPORARY PARKING AREA HERE. THE PROPOSED AREA IS THIS CONNECTION HERE AS WELL AS THIS TEMPORARY PARKING LOT 10, WHICH YOU HAVE, UH, A SMALLER AREA HERE, UM, OVER WHAT'S THE EXISTING GRAVEL D O T LAY DOWN AREA IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS MORE LIKE A, LIKE A MEADOW, FAIRLY FLAT MEADOW AREA WITHOUT, WITH, UH, LIMITED TREES. SO JUST SORT OF ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT ON THIS. UM, ONCE AGAIN, HERE'S THE OLD SAW MILL RIVER ROAD HERE WITH THE, THAT'S A LITTLE EXXON GAS STATION. UM, THE EXISTING TEMPORARY D O T LOT IS IN THIS AREA DOWN HERE. AND THIS IS LIKE KIND OF A FLAT MEADOW TYPE AREA. THE CONNECTION TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LOT 14 HERE AND THE WETLAND AREAS ARE SHOWN IN THESE RED LINES. AND THE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER IS SHOWN AT THIS DASH BLUE LINE. SO AS YOU SEE ALL OF THE PROPOSED, UM, TEMPORARY PARKING IMPERVIOUS AREA FALLS OUTSIDE OF THAT WETLAND BUFFER AREA. UM, A LOT GOING ON IN THIS PLAN. SO LEMME WALK YOU THROUGH THIS. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS IN THAT WETLAND BUFFER AREA. THIS IS THAT BUFFER ON THE LAST, UM, THE LAST SLIDE I SHOWED YOU. AND THEN THIS ORANGE LINE HERE, THIS IS THE LIMIT OF DISTURBANCE. SO THIS INCLUDES THE PROPOSED TEMPORARY LOT AS WELL AS THE GRADING AROUND THE LOT ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND UH, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS DASH LINE HERE THAT'S DEMOED. THIS IS THE EXISTING GRAVEL AREA. SO YOU SEE IT KIND OF GOES OUT INTO THE BUFFER HERE AND COMES BACK. SO WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT HATCHES AREA, HATCHED AREAS HERE IN THE BUFFER. THE FIRST IS THIS ORANGE HATCH AREA. SO THIS IS AREA THAT'S RIGHT NOW IS PART OF THAT GRAVEL LAID DOWN AREA. AND UNDER THE PROPOSED TEMPORARY LOT, THIS AREA WOULD NOT BE DISTURBED. SO THIS WOULD BE RETURNED TO A, UM, A GRASS METAL MIX. UM, THIS PINK AREA CURRENTLY DISTURBED, CURRENTLY PART OF THE GRAVEL. UH, WE WOULD NEED TO DO SOME SLIGHT GRADING FOR THIS TEMPORARY LOT IN THIS PINK AREA, BUT IT WOULD BE ALSO BE SWITCHING FROM GRAVEL TO A GRASS. AND THEN THIS BLUE AREA HATCH ARE ALL AROUND HERE. THIS IS THE REST THAT'S OF THE DISTURBANCE WITHIN THE WETLAND BUFFER. UM, AND THIS IS ALL GRATING, NO IMPERVIOUS. IT'D BE A LITTLE POND HERE AND GRATING DOWN. SO THIS ORANGE IS ABOUT 0.06 ACRES. THIS PINK AREA IS ALSO 0.06 ACRES AND THIS ENTIRE BLUE AREA IS 0.4 ACRES. AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS TREE LINE GOING ALONG THROUGH HERE. SO MOST OF THIS DISTURBANCE IS OUTSIDE OF THIS TREE LINE AS WELL. SO WE REALLY TRIED TO, TO MINIMIZE, UM, WHAT WE COULD ON THIS. [00:15:01] UM, THIS IS JUST THE LAST SLIDE WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED, UM, PARKING SHOWN. UM, AS YOU COULD SEE, OF COURSE, THE RED LINES, UM, ALL FALL OUTSIDE OF THE BUFFER. SO ALL THE IMPERVIOUS AREAS OUTSIDE OF THAT BUFFER AREA. AND THIS ENTRANCE IS GOING RIGHT AT THE SAME SPOT AS THE EXISTING, UM, ENTRANCE TO THAT D O T LOT. HERE IS THE EXISTING D O T LOT, UH, ON THE PERIMETER THAT IS SHOWN IN BLUE. UM, ONCE AGAIN GOING A LITTLE BIT INTO THE DISTURBANCE AREA HERE. UM, YOU'D SEE HOW THE PROPOSED TEMPORARY PARKING MATCHES THAT FAIRLY WELL AND WE PULL IT BACK OUT OF THE, UH, WETLAND BUFFER IN THIS AREA. AND THEN, SORRY, REAL QUICK. AND THEN THIS UPPER AREA, UM, OBVIOUSLY OUT OF THE WETLAND BUFFER AS WELL, INCLUDING THE GRADING DOWN HERE IS ALL OUT OF THE WETLAND BUFFER UP THERE. THIS IS THE AERIAL OF THE SITE. UM, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE LOOP ROAD UP HERE WITH THE PROPOSED P M P D BUILDING HERE. THIS IS THE PREVIOUS APPROVED PARKING HERE IN THE CONTRACTOR TRAILER LOT HERE, THE PROPOSED CONNECTION, THIS IS THAT UPPER AREA OF THE LOT 10, AS YOU CAN SEE. WE KEPT IT OUTSIDE OF THIS TREE LINE. THE TREE LINE SHOWN HERE, BLUE GOING ACROSS. SO THIS IS A NICE FLAT AREA, UM, MINIMAL TREES. AND THEN YOU COULD SEE ON THIS AREA, YOU COULD SEE THE GRAVEL EXISTING OF THAT D O T LOT THAT WE'RE PULLING TO MAKE USE OF. UM, WITH THIS AREA HERE, WE'RE PULLING BACK OBVIOUSLY TO, TO GET OUT OF THE BUFFER AND YOU SEE THE DISTANCE FROM THE TREE LINE, UM, IN THIS AREA. UM, SO STEEP SLOPES ON THE SITE, THERE ARE NONE. EASY PEASY. UM, THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED, UH, BY THE TOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THEY'VE SIGNED OFF ON THIS. UM, SO THE WETLANDS ON THE SITE, ONCE AGAIN, NO WETLAND DISTURBANCE, SOME DISTURBANCE WITHIN THOSE A HUNDRED FOOT WETLAND BUFFER. UM, YOU COULD SEE IT'S NO IMPERVIOUS. IT'S ALL GRADING DOWN. UM, THIS IS ONE OF THREE SMALL INFILTRATION PONDS, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL 'EM SMALL DEPRESSIONS. UM, THE ONES UP HERE, THERE'S ONE HERE AND THERE'S A, THIS ONE HERE, THE STORMWATER FROM THE STEM PARKING AREA WILL BE DIRECTED THESE PONDS THROUGH THESE CURB CUTS ALONG THE EDGE OF THE PAVED AREA. AND WE HAVE SWES HERE DIRECTED THEM TO THE PONDS. YOU CAN SEE THESE CIRCLES HERE. THESE ARE BORINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE AREAS THAT SHOWED THAT WE HAD ADEQUATE SEPARATION FROM GROUNDWATER AND ROCK. AND THEY CAME BACK WITH REALLY HIGH INFILTRATION RATES AS WELL. SO THAT WAS REALLY ENCOURAGING. UM, UH, EVANS ASSOCIATES HAS REVIEWED THIS BUFFER, UM, AND WETLAND AND BUFFER AREA. UH, THEY NOTED THAT IT HAS BEEN DISTURBED IN THE PAST AND THIS AREA IS NOW COMPRISED MOSTLY OF SMALL TREES AND SHRUBS THAT ARE SORT OF SCATTERED THROUGH A MORE OPEN METAL LAWN AREA. UM, THE WETLAND IS NOT HYDROLOGICALLY CONNECTED TO OTHER WETLANDS IDENTIFIED ON THE SOUTH CAMPUS. AND, UM, SO HAS SORT OF HAS LIMITED FUNCTIONAL VALUE, UM, IN TERMS OF THE QUALITY OF THIS BUFFER AND, UH, AND HYDROLOGIC CONNECTIONS. UM, FINALLY THE LANDSCAPING. SO AFTER THE USE IS COMPLETE OF THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT, UM, THIS IS BE THE LANDSCAPING RESTORATION PLAN. YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE HATCHES HERE WHERE THESE PONDS ARE, THESE WILL BE DIFFERENT SCENE MIXES. UM, THAT THESE WILL BE INSTALLED OBVIOUSLY WITH THE TEMPORARY LOT. UM, 'CAUSE THESE, THESE AREAS WILL BE USED TO INFILTRATE THE RUNOFF AND WE LEAVE THOSE IN, UH, ONCE A LOT IS DONE. AND IN ADDITION, UH, YOU COULD SEE THE REGRADING SHOWN WITH THESE RED CONTOURS. AND THEN A NEW GRASS MIX WOULD BE, UM, SPREAD OUT OVER HERE WITH TREES. UM, TREES, TREES SPREAD ALONG IT JUST ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE. THIS IS THE AREA BY THE WETLAND BUFFER. UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT HATCHES WITHIN THIS WETLAND BUFFER THAT WOULD BE INS INSTALLED THESE DIFFERENT SEAM MIXES THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS TEMPORARY LOT. AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU'D HAVE A WILD FLAT OF GRASS MIX PLACED ALONG THE REST OF THE LOT ONCE THE USE IS COMPLETE, AS WELL AS TREES BEING REPLANTED THROUGHOUT. AND, UH, I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A FEW PICTURES OF WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE NOW, AND IT'LL OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR ANY OF US. UM, OH, SORRY. REAL QUICK. THIS IS THE, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE THE THREE STORMWATER PONDS. ONE HERE, HERE, AND HERE THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER. UM, THAT'LL JUST BE SHALLOW OPPRESSIONS, [00:20:01] UM, WITH GRASS MIXES. SO THEY'LL LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS. ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY DONE BORINGS OF THE AREA WITH, CAME BACK WITH REALLY ENCOURAGING INFILTRATION RATES. UM, SO THIS IS THE EXISTING ENTRANCE TO THE SITE, UH, TO THE GRAVEL AREA THAT D O T LAY DOWN AREA. UM, THERE'S THAT EXISTING TRAILER. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THE, THE SORT OF MEADOW AREA STRAIGHT AHEAD. UM, THIS IS WHAT THE LAY DOWN AREA LOOKS LIKE NOW. SO ALL THIS WILL BE CLEARED OUT, UM, TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOT. THIS IS THE AREA OF THE LOT THAT'S CURRENTLY WITHIN THE BUFFER. SO THIS WILL BE PULLED BACK. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I THINK, UH, THE SEED MIX WILL REALLY HELP WITH THIS AREA, UM, TO SORT OF IMPROVE THIS BUFFER QUALITY. UM, AS WELL AS ALL THIS STUFF BEING PICKED UP. UM, THIS IS JUST FROM THE ROADWAY, THESE TREES AND THE BRUSH WILL BE LEFT AS THE SCREENING. UH, SO YOU SEE THE, THE EXISTING, UH, CONSTRUCTION TRAILER THROUGH THOSE TREES AND LOOKING JUST TO THE RIGHT, THE SCREENING WILL BE REMAINING FOR THOSE, UM, 200 PLUS SPACES OVER HERE. AND THEN LOOKING TO THE LEFT, THE TRAILER'S ON THE RIGHT HERE, THE ENTRANCES HERE, UM, AND WALKING ON UP, YOU COULD SEE THE SCREENING THAT WILL REMAIN, UM, FROM THE ROAD TO THE TEMPORARY LOT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE, UH, UM, OPEN THIS UP NOW FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR MYSELF OR BETH EVANS OR JANET. I, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, THE CURRENT LOT IS GRAVEL. YOU'LL BE PUTTING ASPHALT DOWN? YES. OKAY. AND THE WAY YOU'LL BE HANDLING THE RUNOFF IS TO SEND IT TO THESE PONDS? YES, IT WILL BE HELD. AND SO THAT WHEN IT GOES INTO THE WETLANDS, IT WOULD BE PRESUMABLY HAVE HAD THE CHEMICALS REMOVE THE DROPPINGS FROM THE CARS. YEAH. AND MOST OF THE WATER, UH, WHEN WE DID THE ANALYSIS, UH, FOR MOST OF THE STORMWATER WILL BE INFILTRATED, THE INFILTRATION RATES WE GOT AT THOSE PONDS WERE GREATER THAN 20 INCHES AN HOUR. UM, SO WE DON'T, SO THAT WOULD PROVIDE TREATMENT AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, DETAINMENT FOR A NEW RUNOFF. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , ANYONE ELSE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. YEAH. OKAY. IS THE TEMPORARY PARKING JUST FOR WORKERS? YEAH, IT'S INTENDED TO BE FOR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND FOR EMPLOYEES OF REGENERON. IT, I'M JUST CURIOUS, IT SEEMS LIKE PART OF SOME OF IT IS A VERY LONG WALK. IS THERE GONNA BE A SHUTTLE OR SOMETHING FOR THEM WHEN YOU PARK ALL THE WAY AT THAT SOUTH CORNER? I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT REGENERON DOES RUN SHUTTLES AROUND THEIR CAMPUS, UH, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S BEEN DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT A SHUTTLE WILL COME ALL THE WAY INTO THIS LOT. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THE INTENTION IS. I THINK THAT THIS IS FOR A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, EITHER WALK OUT TOWARDS THE OTHER LOTS THAT ARE BEING, UM, UH, THE TEMPORARY LOTS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED HERE. AND THERE IS A SHUTTLE THAT DOES RUN AROUND THE, THE CAMPUS IN THE EVENT THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET ON A SHUTTLE. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S INTENDED TO GO INTO THAT LOT. UM, KIM MARTIN IS HERE FROM REGENERON. SHE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M MISTAKEN ON THAT. UM, DO I, GO AHEAD. SORRY. NO, I JUST, I'LL JUST INDICATE THAT THIS IS INTENDED PRIMARILY FOR CONTRACTOR USE. UM, WE PREFER NOT TO HAVE OUR, OUR STAFF SO LOCATED SO REMOTELY, BUT AS JANET SAID, WE DO HAVE A SHUTTLE. UM, SO WE WILL PROVIDE THEM SAFE ACCESS IF NEEDED. OKAY. WE, WE DO INCLUDE A SIDEWALK ALONG THIS ROADWAY THAT GOES DOWN AND IT CROSSES HERE AND GOES TO THE CONTRACTOR. OH, OKAY. TRAILER AREA. AND, AND DONNA, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IN OUR STAFF LEVEL REVIEW, WHICH WE'RE STILL GETTING COMMENTS BACK TO THE APPLICANT, UM, AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE TOWN BOARD PROCESS, THAT WAS A COMMENT AS WELL. WHILE THERE'S A SIDEWALK ON THE, I'LL CALL IT THE NORTH END, JUST 'CAUSE IT'S NORTH ON THE PAGE MM-HMM. , UM, IF SOMEONE WAS TO PARK ON THAT SOUTH SIDE ALL THE WAY AT THE SOUTHERLY END, [00:25:01] YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD THEY HAVE SAFE ACCESS TO GET TO THE SIDEWALK? DO THEY HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT? HOW MANY LINEAR FEET IS THAT? THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF PICKED UP ON AS WELL. SO IT WAS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU. UM, COULD WE GO BACK TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN? YES. WHY ARE THERE, I SEE YOU'VE GOT SOME TREES. WHY ARE THERE NO TREES IN THE VERY NORTH END OF THE NORTHERN LOT? UH, WE JUST TRY TO, TO PUT THEM IN SPOTS WHERE THEY'RE EXISTING, UM, TREES. WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD A FEW MORE UP HERE IF, IF DESIRED. DOES THE, THE NUMBER OF TREES YOU'RE SHOWING, DOES THAT MEET THE TREE REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENT? UM, YEAH. WE DIDN'T, UH, QUANTIFY THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT WE HAVE HERE. WE SORT OF PUT JUST A LIST OF ACCEPTABLE TREES AND WE SHOWED, UM, A LAYOUT OF, OF POSSIBLE LOCATIONS. UM, I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER, THERE WILL BE 34 REGULATED TREES BEING REMOVED. UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'LL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF REPLACING THEM. OKAY. AND LET, LET ME JUMP IN FOR A SECOND. SO THE WAY THAT TOWN STAFF HAS AND THE FORESTRY OFFICER HAVE HANDLED THE OTHER TREE REMOVAL PERMITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TEMPORARY PARKING LOTS IS THAT THERE'S A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT'S SORT OF AGREED UPON, UM, TO SHOW THAT OR DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW TREE ORDINANCE. UM, ULTIMATELY WHAT WE HAVE CONDITIONED AS PART OF THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT ISSUANCE IS THAT A FINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN PRIOR TO DECOMMISSIONING OF THE LOT, UH, BE SUBMITTED, REVIEWED BY THE TOWN FORESTRY OFFICER FOR COMPLIANCE AND CARRIED OUT IN FULL TO HIS OR HER SATISFACTION PRIOR TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, ISSUING A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION ON THE DECOMMISSIONING OR DEMOLITION OF THE LAW. AND, AND WE'VE AGREED TO THAT, WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. UM, I WOULD REQUEST, I'M LOOKING AT THE PLANT LIST. I THINK IN THIS TYPE OF SITUATION WHERE IT'S MORE OF A, A BUFFER AREA, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, FOUNDATION PLANTING OR SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT ALL THE TREES BE NATIVE. SO OUR OFFICE IS HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT'S TEAM ON PUTTING, GETTING A, A NATIVE PLANT PALETTE TOGETHER. AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE C A C PUT THAT INTO ANY RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD IF IT CHOOSES TO DO THAT. AND, AND JUST TO CONFIRM THAT HOW I UNDERSTAND IT, THE NUMBER OF TREES REQUIRED TO BE PLANTED WILL BE DETERMINED, BUT THOSE TREES WILL NOT BE PLANTED UNTIL THIS LOT IS DECOMMISSIONED AND THEN THEY'LL BE PLANTED HERE, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. OKAY. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO CHECK. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, I, I, I HAVE TWO KIND OF RELATED QUESTIONS. UH, I UNDERSTAND HOW THE PER RATE IS, IS CONSIDERED SUFFICIENT FOR THE STORMWATER RUNOFF. WHAT I WONDERED IS, I, I GUESS I ADDRESSED THIS TO, TO BETH EVANS, UH, WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THE PETROLEUM BYPRODUCTS THAT, YOU KNOW, DROP OFF OF CARS? YOU KNOW, UH, UM, AND I, I ASSUME THERE'S GONNA BE A CONTRACT A LOT. THERE'LL BE A LOT OF TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, OIL, UH, RUB OF TIRES, UH, THAT TYPE OF STUFF. AND, AND WHAT, AND WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THE SNOW? THE, I ASSUME THERE'LL USE SALT AND SNOW REMOVAL OR, I, I JUST WONDERED HOW ALL THAT WAS KIND OF FILTERED INTO THIS. UM, IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT, THE, THE IDEA HERE IS TO, UH, ALLOW THE WATER TO GO BACK INTO THE SOIL THROUGH A VEGETATED, UH, INFILTRATION BASIN. UH, MANY OF THE, UH, HYDROCARBONS END UP REALLY CAUGHT IN THE VEGETATION AND, AND DON'T ACTUALLY GET INTO THE, THE, UH, SOIL ITSELF, BUT THE SOIL IS VERY GOOD AT TAKING OUT, UH, OTHER POLLUTANTS AND FILTERING THEM. AND I SHOULD JUST SAY, I, I WAS QUIET DURING THE PRESENTATION. THIS WETLAND [00:30:01] THAT WE'RE BUFFERING, UH, IS A, APPARENTLY, UH, IT IS ISOLATED. WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE MANY TIMES TO LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS NOT, UH, HYDROLOGICALLY CONNECTED TO THE LONGER WETLAND ON THE LEFT SIDE OF, OF THE SCREEN THERE. UM, I THINK IT PROBABLY WAS AN OLD, UH, LEFTOVER FROM CONSTRUCTION OF SOME SORT IN THE PAST. IT, IT APPEARS TO BE A PERCHED ISOLATED WETLAND. SO I DON'T THINK THAT ANY, UH, POLLUTANTS THAT ARE COMING OFF THIS PARKING AREA LIKE ARE GOING TO, ARE GOING TO END UP IN THAT WETLAND. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE FILTERED OUT OR THE WATER WILL BE INFILTRATED. AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS, UH, UH, ANY CHANCE REALLY THAT THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THIS LITTLE POCKET WETLAND OR THE, OR THE LARGER WETLANDS ON THIS LOT. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. THANKS. THANK YOU, BETH. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, THEN I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A C A C IS DECIDE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND TO THE PLANNING BOARD. I KNOW MARGARET IS NOT PART OF THIS. MARGARET HAS RECRUITED HERSELF, UM, ON THIS. SO, UM, DOES IT, DOES EVERYONE FEEL THAT THIS CAN GO FORWARD WITH A, A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PLANTINGS WHEN THEY'RE DETERMINED BE NATIVE? OKAY. SO SOME, AND, AND, AND PICKING UP ALSO WHAT AARON SAID ABOUT THE PROCESS THEY'VE WORKED OUT ON THE, THE TREES. OKAY. AND, OKAY, SHOULD I HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS TO GO FORWARD? I MOVE. OKAY. MIKE MOVES SECOND. DONNA SECOND. DONNA SECOND. THOUGHT SHE WAS MUTED. I HAND WAS UP. SHE'S, SHE'S JUST VISUAL AND PERHAPS IF YOU HAVE A MOMENT, DAMARA, YOU COULD JUST SHOOT TERRY AN EMAIL WITH PRECISELY WHAT YOU'VE WORKED OUT WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEN WE'LL JUST PUT THAT IN OUR RECOMMENDATION. OKAY? OKAY. UM, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANYONE AG ANYONE AGAINST? ABSTAINING? OKAY, WE'RE GOOD TO GO. I THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING IN AND IT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION. IT WAS VERY CLEAR. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, IT'S ALWAYS EASY IF, WHEN, WHEN WE CAN ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE LINES. THEY'RE COLORED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU MAY IT SOUNDS LIKE A FUNNY THING TO SAY, BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THEM THAT THEY'RE THAT EASY WHEN THEY'RE VISUALLY UP TO FOLLOW THE POINTER AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING A NICE JOB ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL, MIKE. SO GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. UH, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE CAN'T SEE YOU GUYS IN PERSON, BUT, UM, GLAD DO THIS TONIGHT AND HOPE EVERYBODY'S WELL AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN PERSON SOON. VERY GOOD. DO TOO. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TOO MUCH MORE EXCEPT THAT MAYBE, UM, A LITTLE UPDATING ON ELMWOOD, I GUESS IS JUST THAT WE THINK IT'S FINALLY GONNA BE HAVE A E I S COMING FORWARD SHORTLY. UH OH. AND, UH, DONNA HAS TERRY, HAVE YOU TALKED WITH DONNA? YES, I HAVE. OKAY. IS, IS, UH, I'M NOT POSITIVE ABOUT WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY, BUT I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT IS HIGHLY POSSIBLE THAT THERE'LL BE AN, THE FINAL E I S WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD AT ITS NEXT MEETING. AND I KNOW, I THINK IT'S, UM, THE 26TH OF, OF YEAH, EITHER THE 26TH OF, UH, OF JANUARY AND ABOUT A MONTH LATER, UM, AT, AT AT THE END OF FEBRUARY MEETING OF THE TOWN BOARD, WHICH WOULD BE THE 23RD, I GUESS OF FEBRUARY. THERE WOULD BE A HEARING ON IT. AND, UM, UH, IS THAT, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, IS THAT STILL THE, UH, POSSIBLE SCHEDULE, AARON? YES, THAT IS THE SCHEDULE. AS I UNDERSTAND IT TODAY, IT'S A FLUID SCHEDULE. SO I, UH, WE, WE CAN KEEP YOU POSTED OR IF YOU TOUCH BASE WITH GARRETT OR MYSELF ON A SEMI-REGULAR BASIS, WE CAN GIVE YOU THE DATES AS WE KNOW THEM. OKAY. OKAY, THANKS. AND, UM, SO BASICALLY AS, I GUESS AS NO EARLIER THAN, BUT POSSIBLY AS EARLY, AS EARLY AS THE FEBRUARY 23RD, [00:35:01] WE WILL NEED TO HAVE A PURPORT REPORT, UH, OF, UM, ANY COMMENTS WE WANNA MAKE ON THE FINAL, UH, TO THE, UH, I GUESS THE TOWN BOARD AND I GUESS COPYING EVERYBODY, THE PLANNING BOARD AND EVERY, AND, UH, UM, SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S REALLY ALL. I, UH, ONLY, UH, ALL I KNOW WE HAVE AN EMAIL FROM GAR INDICATING THAT AFTER THE END OF JANUARY MEETING AT THE PLANNING BOARD, WE WILL HAVE A, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE WHAT HE DESCRIBED AS ME. IT WAS A NICE EMAIL FROM GARRETT, UH, THANKING US FOR OUR, UM, INPUT AND A CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS. AND, UM, UM, SAYING THAT AFTER THE END OF JANUARY MEETING OF THE PLANNING BOARD, WELL, UH, WE WILL HAVE A TIME, WE'LL HAVE ABOUT A MONTH TO MAKE WHAT HE DESCRIBED AS ANY MEANINGFUL COMMENTS WE WANNA MAKE. UM, AND THAT, UM, UH, WE CAN ISSUE OUR OWN, UH, FINDINGS, UH, A STATEMENT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'LL BE, UH, DOING. I, I, MY GUESS IS THAT IF WE, IF THIS SCHEDULE HOLDS, PROBABLY THIS OUGHT TO BE THE BIGGEST ISSUE ON OUR AGENDA FOR OUR, UH, FIRST FEBRUARY MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE FEBRUARY, UH, 10TH. I GUESS IT'D BE FEBRUARY. NO, UH, WHAT, YEAH, I WAS SAYING, YEAH, BECAUSE JANUARY 27TH IS RIGHT AFTER, SO IT'D BE FEBRUARY, YOU'RE RIGHT, MIKE. BE FEBRUARY 10TH. SO I, I, AARON, I WOULD THINK THAT IF POSSIBLE, WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT WANT ANOTHER, I MEAN, THIS WAS A VERY, I MEAN, THESE WERE, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE REALLY HIGH QUALITY PROFESSIONALS. WE, YOU KNOW, UH, JANET AND, UH, AND BETH EVANS AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS WAS ALL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PRESENTATIONS ARE NOT LIKE THAT. AND, UM, UH, SO, UH, IF POSSIBLE IT'D BE GOOD TO KIND OF KEEP FEBRUARY 10TH CLEAR OF OF APPLICATIONS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ON FEBRUARY 10TH, GET OUR ACT TOGETHER FOR WHATEVER WE WANNA SAY ABOUT THE E I S SO THAT WE CAN GET A REPORT OUT THE NEXT WEEK SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE IT A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE, THE 24TH. OKAY. IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE PIPELINE, UM, YOU KNOW, NOW I'M GONNA SEE IF WE CAN COORDINATE SO THAT WE CAN GET MATERIALS OFF TO YOU GUYS A WEEK FROM TONIGHT SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THEM IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING ON THE 27TH. BUT, UH, I'LL TOUCH BASE WITH MATT. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY THAT ARE QUITE READY. AND IF FOR ANY REASON, YOU KNOW, THE C A C ANTICIPATES TAKING AN ENTIRE MEETING FOR THE F E I SS AND, AND YOU KNOW, AN APPLICANT'S READY, WE'LL JUST TELL THEM THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE 24TH. KNOW THAT'S OKAY. I, I MEAN, UNLESS IT WAS SOMETHING SMALL, I, IF IT WAS SOMETHING REALLY MINOR, THEN I'D PROBABLY PUSH FOR IT, BUT YEAH. YEAH, I THINK WE HAD, LIKE THE LAST ONE WE HAD THAT, THAT ONE THAT WE WAS IN AND OUT, LIKE IN NO TIME IT WAS WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY HAD MOVED, MOVED, THE, THE PATIO, I MEAN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S GONNA TAKE US 10 MINUTES, BUT, UH, SOMETHING ALONG, I THINK MIKE IS RIGHT ON, ON POINT. I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT TO DISCUSS AND JUST UNDERSTAND WITH, WITH, I'M SURE THIS IS GONNA COME OUT WITH LIKE THREE, THREE BOOKS. WE'LL BE LUCKY IF WE CAN GET THROUGH IT IN A TIMELY FASHION. HOW ARE WE GONNA PIECE OF THIS, UH, AARON? UH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED IT AS SOON AS WE CAN SO WE CAN START, UH, WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS. YES. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU UTILIZE IT, RIGHT? SO I WOULD ASK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS TERRY SENDS AN EMAIL TO GARRETT, UM, FOLLOW SOMETIME FOLLOWING THE MEETING THAT JUST ASKS HIM TO SHED A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHT ON, YOU KNOW, TIMING COPIES. YOU KNOW, IT'D BE IMPORTANT FOR MAYBE TERRY TO POLL THE MEMBERS TO FIND OUT WHO'S GONNA WANT A HARD COPY, WHO'S OKAY WITH THE DIGITAL COPY. UM, BOTH, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND, AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO GET A, A, A LITTLE BIT BETTER OF A TIMELINE FROM GARRETT ON WHEN, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS CAN BE ANTICIPATED. BECAUSE RIGHT, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET IT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY 7TH, IT'S NOT GONNA GIVE YOU A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT OF TIME TO LOOK AT IT BEFORE THE 10TH. SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND YOU CAN COPY ME ON THE EMAILS, YOU KNOW, UM, IF FOR ANY REASON GARRETT, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK TO YOU, YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO ME AND I CAN WALK INTO HIS OFFICE AND, AND LOOK TO GET AN UPDATE. SO, THAT, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. LET, LET'S SEE. RIGHT [00:40:01] NOW, I, I KNOW THAT TERRY AND DONNA AND I ARE GOING TO NEED HARD COPIES. THAT'S THREE. UH, WHO ELSE IS GOING TO, UH, WANT A HARD COPY? MARGARET IS FOUR, GEORGE IS FIVE. UM, ALFRED IS SIX. NANCY, YOU WANT A HARD COPY? NANCY, YOU'RE MUTED. UM, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. ELWOOD GOLF COURSE. ELWOOD ELM. OKAY. UM, NO, I DON'T, I DON'T NEED THE HARD COPY. OKAY. SO, SO LET'S SEE IT. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. THAT'S SIX. WHO'S I, WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO GET ONE MORE FOR LAUREN IF SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BY THEN BECAUSE SHE DID THAT REPORT ON THE, UM, COMPARABLES. SO THAT WOULD BE SEVEN. I GUESS WE WOULD NEED SEVEN. YEAH. AND I KNOW THAT THAT SEEMS LIKE A, A BURDEN TO THE APPLICANT, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS WHEN WE DO IT ON THE SCREEN, I KNOW I HAVE A LAPTOP AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO READ SOMETHING OF THAT VOLUME WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT THE MAPS OR EVEN SOME OF THEIR, UM, COMPARISON SHEETS. IT'S JUST LIKE, I, I HAVE TO START MOVING STUFF BACK AND FORTH. IT ISN'T, IT'S JUST MUCH EASIER TO WORK WITH THE PAPER. PAPER. I WOULDN'T WORRY, UH, THE APPLICANT'S GONNA BE PREPARED TO SUBMIT A LOT OF HARD COPIES. YOU KNOW, THESE STUDIES RESULT IN A LOT OF PAPER BEING PRINTED. UM, AND, AND, AND I'VE SEEN WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST GONNA COME IN WITH BOXES AND BOXES AND BOXES. SO WHETHER YOU NEED SEVEN OR IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE 10, OR IF SOMEBODY MISPLACES ONE AND NEEDS ANOTHER ONE, THERE'S GONNA BE PLENTY OF COPIES. SO NOT TO WORRY ON THAT. WELL, MAYBE TERRY AND THEN MAYBE WE OUGHT TO GET ONE FOR EVERYBODY. ONE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY BECAUSE I KNOW SHARON ISN'T HERE TONIGHT AND YOU KNOW, SHE PROBABLY WOULD PREFER PAPER. YEAH, SHE PROBABLY WOULD. YEAH. AND OKAY, SO WHY DON'T WE JUST ASK HER, YOU CAN PUT THAT IN THE EMAIL TOO. WE WANTED THE NINE, WAS IT NINE? IT'S, IT'S TIME WITH 10. 10 WITH DEFINITELY. YEAH. OKAY. UM, OKAY. AND, UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL, I MEAN WE JUST, UM, I THINK THOSE ARE THE TARGET DATES THAT WE'VE HEARD AND UH, AND I THINK I'VE DESCRIBED THE EMAIL. WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT WE WILL, UM, HAVE ABOUT ON THIS, ON THIS PROGRAM WE'D HAVE ABOUT A MONTH. SO IN THAT MIDDLE MEETING, WE NEED, I THINK TO DEVOTE AS MUCH TIME WHERE WE CAN THAT MIDDLE MEETING, 'CAUSE THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMMENTS WE'LL HAVE, BUT JUST THE VOLUME OF STUFF TO DISCUSS IS A LOT. DO YOU KNOW, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING, AARON, THAT IS DISCLOSABLE ABOUT THAT YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE PROJECT? IS THIS IS, IS, IS IT STILL NOT AGE RESTRICTED? IS IT STILL TOWNHOUSES? IS IT STILL, UH, WHETHER DOING ABOUT A PARK DONATION? UH, DO YOU KNOW OF ANYTHING THAT IS DISCLOSABLE? BUT IF IT'S NOT, I MEAN, DON'T TELL US ANYTHING. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HONESTLY KNOW A TON. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH AND SOME DISCUSSIONS. ULTIMATELY THERE WILL BE AN IDENTIFIED PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR THE TOWN BOARD. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, ULTIMATELY IT'S THE TOWN BOARD, THE TOWN BOARD'S DOCUMENT, AND IT'S THE TOWN BOARD'S DECISION ON WHICH ALTERNATIVE. SO IT'S NOT THE APPLICANT'S DECISION. UM, AND, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. THEY MAY HAVE A PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE. UM, AND THEY WILL AND THEY DEFINITELY DO. AND I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOME BACK AND FORTH. I DON'T WANNA SPEAK OUTTA TURN ON IT. GARRETT WOULD BE A BETTER PERSON TO SPEAK WITH ON, ON, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE JUST BECAUSE HE'S BEEN DEALING WITH IT DIRECTLY AND WITH THE TOWN BOARD AND THE APPLICANT. SO, UM, IF YOU GUYS WANTED SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM HIM, I'M SURE HE WOULD PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER. OH YEAH. ALSO, I KNOW HE'S, HE'S NOT ON THIS EVENING FOR THE STORMWATER, BUT HE'S GONNA BE ON A FUTURE MEETING FOR THE STORMWATER, UM, DISCUSSION. AND IF THAT HAPPENED TO BE BEFORE, HE COULD CERTAINLY GIVE YOU AN UPDATE IN PERSON. UM, JUST ONE, JUST BASED ON ONE, ONE COMMENT, AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT, THIS IS THE TOWN BOARD'S DOCUMENT. IF IT HAS A PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, ONE WOULD HOPE IT IS CLEAR THAT IT IS [00:45:01] THE APPLICANT'S PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE. 'CAUSE IF THE WORD PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE COMES OUT IN A TOWN BOARD DOCUMENT, IT LOOKS LIKE A DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE BEFORE EVEN PUBLIC COMMENT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. AND WHERE I'VE SEEN THESE BEFORE, AND I'VE LOOKED AT MANY OF THEM A LOT OF TIMES, I CAN RECALL THERE IT SPECIFICALLY BEING STATED, THE APPLICANT'S PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE. SO WE WOULD WANT THAT IN THIS CASE AS WELL. DO YOU COMMUNICATE THAT TO WHOEVER IS IT IS JUST GONNA BLOW PEOPLE'S MIND IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT COMES OUT TO THE PUBLIC IT AND THERE'S A PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AND THEY SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A HEARING ON IT. WE'RE ALREADY TOLD THIS IS PREFERRED. IT'S THE APP. I MEAN, THE APP WHITE HAVE A PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, NO PROBLEM ABOUT IT. IT'S JUST A LINGUISTIC CLARIFICATION. RIGHT. OKAY. AARON, DID YOU JUST SEND ME A MESSAGE? 'CAUSE WHEN I WENT IN TO CHAT, THERE WAS NO MESSAGE THERE. IT, SOMETHING FLASHED ON MY SCREEN. DID YOU SEND ME SOMETHING? I SENT YOU AN EMAIL WITH THE LANGUAGE FOR THE REGENERA. OH, IT, THE EMAIL. OKAY. IT CAME UP ON THE ZOOM SCREEN AND I WENT TO CHAT AND I'M LIKE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING HERE , SO IT MUST HAVE SHOT THE EMAIL SOMEHOW SHOT ACROSS MY SCREEN, THE CONTENT THAT I WAS THINKING IT WAS, IT WAS IN THE ZOOM SESSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THEM TONIGHT? IF NOT, I THANK YOU ALL AND WE'LL BE BACK TOGETHER ON THE 27TH AND, AND, AND IF THAT'S A, IF, IF, IF IT'S READY TO GO, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME FOR THE STORMWATER PRESENTATION BECAUSE AS FAR AS WE KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BIG ON THAT DAY. AND THEN WE COULD GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE THE 11TH WHEN WE, UH, UM, WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON, UH, THE FINAL E A S FOR, UH, RIGHT. SO AS I WAS, OR AS I HAD FINISHED STATING THAT, UH, THE STONEWATER DISCUSSION MAY BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UM, YOU MAY HAVE, MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SEEN, BUT ON THE FINAL AGENDA, I KIND OF MODIFIED THE LANGUAGE. IT'S NOT SO TO SPEAK A REPORT FROM GARRETT ON STORMWATER MAPPING. IT'S MORE OF, SO WHAT IT IS ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE. AND, AND HE AND I DID CATCH UP ON THIS, SO I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THIS. IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE, UM, AND HE'S HAD FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING AND EVEN PERHAPS, UH, A TOWN BOARD MEMBER OR TWO, BUT THERE WILL BE A LOCAL LAW THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT TOGETHER FIRST. THERE WILL BE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR UPDATING THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE CHAPTER 2 48. AND, UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY. ONE THAT I CAN TELL YOU JUST FROM DIRECT KNOWLEDGE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN A LOT MORE SEVERE STORMS MOVE THROUGH THE AREA OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, FLOODING, UM, A LOT OF FLOODING, THE TOWNS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT MEET THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENTS FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND THEY'RE JUST NOT CUTTING IT IN THESE, YOU KNOW, HEAVY EVENTS, RIGHT? THESE HEAVY RAIN EVENTS AND STORM EVENTS. SO THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, HASN'T REQUIRED, BUT HAS CERTAINLY ASKED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS FOR APPLICANTS IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BEEF UP THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO EXCEED THE CODE REQUIREMENT. SO NOT JUST MEET THE 25 YEAR STORM. IF, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE 50 YEAR OR THE 100 YEAR STORM, THE PLANNING BOARD HAS ASKED. BUT AN APPLICANT COULD, WHILE MOST APPLICANTS, IF NOT ALL, HAVE SAID, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST. AND YEAH, WE WERE ABLE TO MEET A 50 YEAR STORM HERE, OR A HUNDRED YEAR STORM THERE, AND APPLICANT THEORETICALLY COULD SAY, HEY, WE MEET THE CODE AND IT'S 25 YEAR AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DO UNDER THE CODE. SO THE THOUGHT WAS, HEY, IT'S TIME. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE, LET'S COME UP WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN DRAFT A LOCAL LAW. AND I THINK GARRETT WANTS TO JUST BRING THAT BEFORE THE C C A C, SO IT MAY NOT BE READY FOR THE 27TH. MY FINAL POINT BEING, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA CARRY, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO PUT THESE THINGS TOGETHER. IT'S KIND OF ON THE SIDE BURNER. IT COMES BACK INTO THE FOREFRONT PROBABLY WHEN WE HAVE AN EVENT. AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND HE'S BEEN WORKING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW THESE THINGS GO. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS KIND OF COOKING ON THE STOVE, AND HE TOLD ME THAT HIS GAME PLAN IS TO MEET WITH THOSE, WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE TOWN ENGINEER AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND COME UP WITH A SET OF [00:50:01] RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HE'LL BRING FORTH, UH, TO THE C A C. OKAY. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. I KNOW WE WANNA GO, BUT AARON, UM, SO WHAT, HOW, HOW DID THE LOCAL, THE LOCAL ORDINANCES WORK IN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE STATE? IF THE STATE SAYS ONE THING, CAN WE CAN'T SUPERSEDE IT, RIGHT? WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE HAVE TO, AT A MINIMUM, WE HAVE TO MEET THE STATE STATE, BUT WE CAN EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE. AND IN FACT, WE ALREADY DO. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. THE STATE, THE STATE HAS A STATE, UM, STORMWATER PERMIT. WE CALL IT A SPEEDIES PERMIT, AND THEIR THRESHOLDS ARE, UM, ONE HALF ACRE OF DISTURBANCE AND UP. SO THAT'S 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE AND UP, THAT'S WHERE THEIR PERMITS KICK IN. OURS KICK IN AT 500 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE OR MORE. YOU NEED ATO, A LOCAL STONEWATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT. SO I, I I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. I THOUGHT THE STATE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T OVERREGULATE THE STATE. I DID NOT KNOW THAT. SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. IN, IN, IN SOME, IN SOME AREAS, YOU'RE RIGHT, MARGARET, BUT IN LAND USE, WE HAVE THE RIGHT, UH, UH, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO, UH, TO HAVE OUR OWN MORE, NOT LESS, IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST AS PROTECTIVE, BUT WE CAN BE MORE PROTECTIVE. GARRETT, ARE WE LOOKING AT THINGS SINCE THE TOWN IS REALLY PREDOMINANTLY BUILT OUT? AARON? AARON, I'M SORRY, THE TOWN IS PREDOMINANTLY BUILT OUT. ARE WE LOOKING AT TRYING TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO, IN SOME WAYS, OR, OR OUR CODE TO AFFECT, UM, SOMEHOW IT'S ALREADY THERE. WE KNOW WE HAVE LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO CONSTRUCTION, YOU LAND UP BY NEW YORK STATE LAW HAVING TO PUT IN, UH, UM, ELECTRICALLY HOOKED UP SMOKE ALARMS. IS THERE SOME WAY LIKE WE COULD MAYBE GO BACK AND WHEN WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION ON EXISTING HOUSES START TO REQUIRE NOT JUST THAT THE WATER RETENTION, UM, THERE'D BE NO ADDITIONAL RUNOFF, BUT MAYBE THEY HAVE TO PUT, HANDLE THEIR ROOF WATER IF IT ISN'T CURRENTLY BEING HANDLED ON THE EXISTING HOUSE. RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT COMMENT AND FEEDBACK TO GARRETT WHEN HE MAKES, YOU KNOW, THE PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL. I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT AT ONE POINT I BROUGHT UP, LET ME BACKTRACK FOR A SECOND. UM, I KNOW THAT UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING LOOKS AT PROJECTS IN SUCH A WAY THAT IF YOU HAVE IMPERVIOUS, LET'S JUST SAY YOU'VE, YOU'RE ON A COUPLE OF ACRES, YOU'RE DOING GREAT. YOU HAVE A, UM, TENNIS COURT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FAR CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO A MASSIVE ADDITION ON THE HOUSE. UM, IF, AND, AND THEY WERE GONNA RIP OUT THE OLD TENNIS COURT, IF THERE WAS A BALANCE IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, THE CODE WOULD NOT REQUIRE THEM TO PICK UP THOSE, THE ROOF WATER, EVEN FROM THE NEW ADDITION BECAUSE IT'S A DEBT BALANCE. AND I FIND THAT TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S LACKING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S EVERY OPPORTUNITY RIGHT THERE TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, PUT IN SOME STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. WE'VE CLEARLY GOT ISSUES WITH FLOODING IN TOWN AND ACROSS THE REGION. I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT SHOULD BE CODIFIED. SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT BY YOU, TERRY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I JUST KNOW WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT ALONG SOME OF THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION ALONG THE PIPELINE ON THE ROAD ABOVE AND WHATNOT, IT WAS, IT SEEMED AS THOUGH NONE OF THE OTHER HOUSES WERE RETAINING THEIR WATER. THE NEW CONSTRUCTION WAS GONNA RETAIN THEIR WATER. BUT THE ISSUE IS, THE PROBLEM IS MORE THAN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. IT'S WHAT'S THERE ALREADY. AND THE ONLY, AND THAT'S A VERY TYPICAL TYPE OF SITUATION WE HAVE, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK WE CAN GO BACK IN TIME. I'M SORRY, MIKE. I DON'T, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T GO BACK IN TIME AND GO HOUSE TO HOUSE AND SAY YOU MUST, RIGHT. BUT WE REQUIREMENT, BUT IF THERE'S A RENOVATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YOU MUST RETROFIT TO MEET THE CURRENT STANDARDS. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. UH, MIKE, I THINK YOU WILL. I WAS JUST GONNA NO, NO, I DIDN'T WANNA INTERRUPT. UH, I WAS GONNA FOLLOW UP ON WHAT TERRY WAS SAYING IS WE'RE LARGELY BUILT OUT, UM, ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE THE MOST AMOUNT OF NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IS COMING FROM IS GUESS WHERE THE TOWN, WELL, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, UM, THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE PROMOTE, AND, AND PAUL DOES A BUNCH AND, AND SO DOES OUR DEPARTMENT, [00:55:01] THE IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THROUGH THE INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS. YEAH. AND THAT IS, THAT IS THE BIGGEST, AS FAR AS I KNOW, E EXCEPT FOR SOMETHING LIKE REGENERON AND, AND, AND, AND MAYBE AND ELMWOOD, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY BUILD THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST, UM, NEW CONSTRUCTION IN EXISTING AREAS, WHICH PRESENTLY HAS FLOODING ISSUES, UH, IS GOING TO BE, UH, THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES FROM, UH, FROM SIDEWALKS. UM, AND, UM, DO, IS THERE SUCH A THING AS IMPERVIOUS SIDEWALKS? THERE? THERE ABSOLUTELY IS. HOWEVER, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET REALLY ANY TRACTION ON IT. , THERE'S SOMETHING . IT'S, IT'S TOUGH. AND, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK AGAINST ANYONE THAT'S ON TOWNS STAFF, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH CERTAIN ENGINEERING METHODS AND CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS AND YOU KNOW, I I JUST THINK WE'RE LIVING IN A WORLD WHERE THERE SHOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN THERE WAS 20, 30, 40 YEARS AGO. UM, THERE'S A SURFACE THAT I'M AWARE OF AND, YOU KNOW, COULD IT BE USED ON A HEAVILY TRAFFICKED, UM, SIDEWALK ON CENTRAL AVENUE? I'M HONESTLY NOT SURE, BUT CERTAINLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PATHWAYS THROUGH TOWN PARKS AND FROM A PARKING LOT TO A PLAYGROUND, AND IT'S A CONCRETE WALKWAY. THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED PER E PAVE, AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, UM, SIMILAR, UH, PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET AND, AND THEY DRAIN RIGHT THROUGH. I PICKED UP SAMPLES AT A STORMWATER CONFERENCE IN BEACON THAT I USED TO GO TO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AND THE WATER GOES RIGHT THROUGH. THERE IS SOME MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND I KNOW THAT, UH, FOR INSTANCE, THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS DID PICK UP AND USE SOME OF THAT AROUND THEIR, IN THEIR TREE PITS RATHER THAN HAVING PAVEMENT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE LITTLE CIRCLE IN THE TREE PIT. THEY USE THIS, UM, PERVIOUS MATERIAL AND A LOT OF THEM ARE MADE OUT OF, UM, RECYCLED TIRES THAT ARE, THEN THERE'S SOME SORT OF BINDER IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY TEST ON THE CHEMICAL COMPONENTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAC MAY REC MAY COME BACK TO YOU IS ASK YOU FOR SOME INFORMATION ON THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, BECAUSE WE MIGHT, I'M HAPPY TO CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS LAW GETS REVISED, THAT CERTAIN SIDEWALKS, UM, THE ONES YOU'VE DESCRIBED AND MAYBE ONES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CENTRAL AVENUE OR TARRYTOWN ROAD, BUT, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND PARK AREAS, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY, UH, BE REQUIRED TO, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IS PLANNED OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, RIGHT. SO I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. ANOTHER ONE'S CALLED FLEXI PAVE AND, UM, I THINK DONNA, I SEE DONNA SHAKING HER. I THINK WE'VE EVEN SPOKEN ABOUT IT, UH, HERE AND THERE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT RECOMMENDATION AND I WOULD REALLY HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE POWERS THAT BE, YOU KNOW, KEEP SOME FLEXIBILITY IN MIND BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE TOWN ITS RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. IT, IT, IT'S TOO LATE FOR, UH, WE VOTED ALREADY FOR THE SIDEWALK THAT REGENERON PUTTING IN TOO LATE ALREADY. RIGHT? UM, WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, IF YOU ULTIMATELY TAKE A SECONDARY VOTE, I MEAN, ASSUMING THAT THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE WILL BE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES FOR, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT CAME UP, BUT, UM, THEY ANTICIPATE THESE TEMPORARY LOTS BEING ABOUT FOR ABOUT A FIVE YEAR CONSTRUCTION PERIOD. YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE AT, WELL, THE APPROVALS ARE ONLY GONNA BE FOR FIVE YEARS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT. SO, UM, NOW I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING WHAT THAT, WHAT YOU SUGGESTED IS WRONG OR SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED BY THE C A C BECAUSE IF YOU ALL AGREE AND YOU AMEND THE RECOMMENDATION TO SUGGEST THAT MAYBE REGENERON CONSIDERS IT AND BECOMES A LEADER OR SOMETHING, OR LEADS BY EXAMPLE, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. . I DON'T KNOW. I PERSONALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, WITH THEM NOT HERE. I JUST, YOU KNOW, I ME TOO, ME TOO. I JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS, JUST REMEMBER IT FOR THE NEXT ONE THAT [01:00:01] COMES IN, BUT I, I HAVE A PROBLEM DOING SOMETHING TAKE IN MY BRAIN. SORRY, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT SOONER. WHAT I'M HAPPY TO DO, AND I RESPECT THAT TERRY AND, AND, AND MEMBERS OF THE C A C, WHAT I CAN DO IS HAVE AN A SIDE DISCUSSION WITH, UM, THE PROJECT TEAM AND NOT SAY THAT, NOT EVEN NECESSARILY SAY THAT IT CAME UP, JUST, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED. UH, WOULD IT BE SOMETHING YOU CONSIDER AS THE PROJECT ADVANCES THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD OF THE TOWN BOARD AND LEAVE IT AT THAT? THEY COULD SAY NO, OR THEY COULD SAY MAYBE WE WILL . I THINK THESE WILL WORK. SORRY, IS IT, I I WAS GONNA SAY THAT I, I THINK THESE ARE, THESE ARE GOOD SUGGESTIONS AND I, AND I AGREE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERMEABLE, UH, SURFACE FOR THE SIDEWALKS. BUT LET'S KEEP IN MIND, UH, THAT REGENERON IS, UH, ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THE, THEIR PONDS THAT ARE GONNA CAPTURE THE RUNOFF FROM THOSE, UH, FROM THOSE PARKING LOTS. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEY PROBABLY HAVE THE RUNOFF SITUATION COVERED. UM, IT, IT, IT'S ALSO IN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF AREA THAN WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING ALL OF THESE SIDEWALKS. UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S AN, THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN A MUCH LESS DENSE AREA. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PROBLEM REALLY EXISTS OUT THERE. I, I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'LL LEAVE THOSE SIDEWALKS ONCE THEY RESTORE IT. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'VE STUDIED IT ENOUGH IN THE CONTEXT OF REGENERON SPECIFIC LOCATION TO BE INTELLIGENT ON THAT. UH, I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE. WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, UM, I THINK MIKE'S RIGHT THAT IT, IT, IT, IT'S ABSOLUTELY IN A LESS DENSE AREA OF TOWN. MY POINT EARLIER ALSO IS THAT THE SIDEWALK IS ALSO PART OF THE, UH, TEMPORARY PLAN. SO THEY WOULD BE TORN OUT AND RESTORED BACK TO A PERVIOUS SURFACE AND A PLANTED AREA, UH, DOWN THE ROAD. I WOULD SAY THAT THE CAMPUS EXPANSION, THE MILLION SQUARE FOOT AREA, WHICH IS FURTHER IN THE SITE, WHILE IN A, YOU KNOW, NOT A DENSE AREA BY ANY MEANS, HAS MUCH CLOSER PROXIMITY TO THE SAWMILL RIVER, WHICH IS A PROBLEM AS WE GO. DO, DO, DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY FUTURE? DOES THE TOWN HAVE ANY FUTURE PERMITS TO BE GIVEN ON THE CAMPUS AREA? JUST ADMINISTRATIVE ON THAT MILLION SQUARE FEET? NOTHING DOES IT BASIC, UH, THEY'VE GOT THE BASIC PERMITS. THEY HAVE THE, THE BOARD LAND USE BOARD APPROVALS IN PLACE. YES. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY DID GREEN UP THAT SITE A LOT. AND IF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT RECALL, BUT THERE'S NOT ONE SURFACE PARKING SPACE. THEY HAVE THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, SORT OF UNDERGROUND AND UNDER THE GREEN CAMPUS. SO YOU ELIMINATE A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACES IN THAT WAY, WHICH IS GREAT. I, I, THIS IS THE ONE TO, TO PULL IT ON THIS. I ASK THE QUESTION, MICHAEL, I ASK THE QUESTION. AARON CAN ASK IT IN A NICE WAY AND THEY'LL SAY YES OR NO. I, WELL, I I THINK MAYBE WHAT YOU THOUGHT THE PLACE TO ASK FOR IS, AS AARON IS SUGGESTING, IS MORE IN THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION AREA, INDUSTRIAL, WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THE, THE SIDEWALKS INTO THE, INTO THE GARDEN AREA OR SOMETHING. BECAUSE SINCE THIS ONE'S GONNA BE PULLED UP, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT IMPORTANT. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA GET A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF USE WHILE IT'S DOWN. UH, I JUST, WHERE IT'S LOCATED, SO, 'CAUSE I, I GOT THE KIND OF THE SENSE THAT THEY WERE, IF THEY HAD PEOPLE PARKING THERE, THEY WERE GONNA HAVE A, THE SHUTTLE BUS GO OUT THERE. AND I MUST SAY, DONNA, WHEN YOU ASKED THE QUESTION, I HAD TO LAUGH. 'CAUSE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT, I WAS THINKING, GEE, I'M GETTING OLD. I'M LOOKING AT THIS THING. I WOULDN'T WANNA WALK FROM THERE TO THE OFFICE. . NOT THIS PAST WEEK, I'LL TELL YOU, NOT THIS PAST WEEK. IT WAS COLD OUT THERE. THAT'S A LONG HIKE FOR SOMEBODY. AND WE THOUGHT OF IT TOO. I'LL TELL YOU, AND I SAID IT, UH, BEFORE, BUT WE THOUGHT OF IT TOO. MATT AND I, WHEN WE WERE, GARRETT ASKED US TO LOOK AT THE PLANS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, AND ONE OF OUR COMMENTS WAS, HOW IS SOMEONE GOING TO GET FROM THAT FURTHEST SOUTH SPACE THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT, THEN THROUGH ANOTHER PARKING LOT TO A CROSSWALK TO ULTIMATELY GET TO THE CONSTRUCTION JOB? THAT'S A HIKE. YOU, YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT ON THE LATE SHIFT. , , HEY, HEY, UM, HOW COME ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GOT 365 SPOTS? WHAT HAPPENED IS THE PROJECT GROWN? SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UM, NOW THAT THEY'VE KIND OF ADVANCED JUST THE DESIGN PLANS TO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND START TO GOT, GET A [01:05:01] GC A CONTRACTOR ON AND HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, THE CONTRACTOR SAID, YOU KNOW, 490 SPOTS ARE NOT GONNA BE NEARLY ENOUGH. WE'RE GONNA NEED ANOTHER COUPLE HUNDRED. PARTICULARLY ON REGENERON TIMELINE. THEY DON'T WANT THIS TO CARRY OUT AND BE A, YOU KNOW, 10 YEAR BUILD, THEY WANT THIS DONE AND THEY WANT THESE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING UP AND RUNNING AND, AND SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE DOING THE GREAT THINGS THAT THEY DO THERE. SO. GREAT, GREAT TO HEAR. YES. GEORGE. GEORGE. SO JUST, YEAH, I'M JUST, UH, UH, ON ANOTHER TOPIC BACK ON THE ELMWOOD, UH, WHEN SHOULD WE EXPECT, UH, THE HARD COPIES ON THE, ON THAT PROJECT? GONNA ASK TERRY TO EMAIL GARRETT AND COPY ME ON IT. I JUST DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. THE GOAL WOULD BE THE GOAL BEING AT LEAST ONE WEEK BEFORE THE 10TH. SO SIMILAR TO HOW, UM, IDEALLY IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE WEEKS BEFORE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENT, SO I, I CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER, BUT, BUT AARON, AARON, IT, IT, IT, IT EXISTS. IF, IF THE TOWN BOARD IS GOING TO ACCEPT IT ON THE 26TH, IT HAS TO BE AVAILABLE. OKAY. SO THAT'S A QUESTION FOR GARRETT. I JUST SIMPLY CAN'T ANSWER IT. I MEAN, BECAUSE GETTING THREE OR 400 PAGES ON THE ROUND FIGURE IS ATTEMPT, I IT PRETTY TOUGH FOR US TO, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TOUGH FOR US TO, UH, DIGEST THE YEAH, JUST, I MEAN, AND, AND, AND YEAH, I MEAN, TO GO THROUGH IT, TO THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, TO, BECAUSE MY SUGGESTION, I I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE THAT LENGTHY, BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT, IT CERTAINLY COULD BE. SO IT FOR A SECOND, JUST ASSUMING IT'S LENGTHY, UM, I THINK IN TERRY'S EMAIL IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO, TO GIVE A TIMELINE TO SAY THE CAC, THE CAC HA ANTICIPATES BEING ABLE TO DISCUSS THIS ON THE 10TH OF FEBRUARY, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE A LARGE PORTION, IF NOT OUR ENTIRE MEETING, DEDICATE TO, TO THAT TOPIC. WE'D LIKE TO GET X NUMBER OF HARD COPIES OF THE F B I S AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE GET THEM BY, YOU KNOW, MAILED OUT BY THE 27TH OR WHATEVER THE, THE DATE I HAD, I HAD JUST RECENTLY JUST SITTING HERE WRITING A NOTE TO MYSELF, AND I SAID, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TOWN BOARD ACCEPTS . YEAH. BECAUSE TO ME, IF THE TOWN BOARD'S ACCEPTING THE COPIES SHOULD BE AVAILABLE, AND IF THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE, THEN THAT GOES UP TO SOMETHING BEING VERY WRONG IN THE PROCESS, BECAUSE SUPPOSEDLY WE HAVE FROM THAT PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT HOW CAN YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENT, THE COMMENT ON? SO YOU REALLY CAN'T START THE CLOCK ON SAYING PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO THE DOCUMENT. RIGHT. AND I DON'T WANNA MISLEAD ANYONE BY SAYING IT WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE. I JUST DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR YOU. OKAY. I APPRECIATE IT. THE, THE, THE, UH, THE, UH, SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT AND SAY, IF YOU WANT THIS SCHEDULE, OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THESE THINGS AVAILABLE TO US. IF YOU WANNA BE ON A 30 DAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT THE TA, YOU KNOW, TO BE ON THIS TYPE OF SCHEDULE, YOU, YOUR, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO HAVE THE COPIES AVAILABLE TO US. BECAUSE, I MEAN, TERRY'S OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? SHE CAN'T TELL THE PROPERTY THEY GOT 30 DAYS, BUT THEY OH, LOOK AT IT FOR 15 DAYS OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW WHAT JUST HAPPENED? ? I DON'T KNOW. SOUNDS BAD. . IT'S . WE'RE BACK. YOU'RE MUTED. ERIN. ERIN, YOU MUTED. KATIE, NANCY, NANCY ACCIDENTALLY HIT SHARE SCREEN, I THINK ON HER PHONE. , AND BY THE WAY, WELCOME SHARON. GLAD YOU COULD JOIN US. OKAY. THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR TONIGHT? I MEAN, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, TERRY CAN, TERRY WILL HAVE TO, SHOULD ADDRESS THESE. IS THERE ANYMORE, ANYTHING ELSE WE GOT FOR TONIGHT, GUYS? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK THIS IS IT. HAVEN'T HAPPY? OH, THIS NANCY. SHE'S REJOINED IN PERSON. OKAY. OKAY. ONE, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. MARGARET HAS SOMETHING. GO AHEAD. MARGARET. ANY THE OUTLOOK ON WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE BACK IN PERSON OR IS THAT STILL THE, YOU KNOW, STATE SAYS WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT? OR WHAT? UH, THIS, THE EXTENT THE STATE IS EXTENDING THE, UH, THE, UH, THE ZOOM PERMISSION UNDER THE OPEN MEETING LAW, UH, UH, INDEFINITELY [01:10:01] OR, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. I KNOW IT, IT IS NOT EXPIRING ON JANUARY. TEENTH. I DON'T KNOW. NO, IT'S NOT INDEFINITELY. YOU'LL HAVE A TIME PERIOD ON, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME PERIOD. YEAH, WE GOT, WE GOT CHASED OUT OF OUR OFFICES ON, UH, THE MONDAY BEFORE CHRISTMAS AND U B S, THE GLOBAL BANK IS NOW SAYING, UH, JANUARY 31ST, THEY'RE GONNA REASSESS. YEAH, I, I KNOW THE LEGISLATION'S BEING EXTENDED. IT'S NOT INDEFINITE. UH, IT'S A, IT CAN STILL CONSIDERED A TEMPORARY FIX. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, MAYBE AARON KNOWS, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UH, NO, NO. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I KNOW. NOBODY KNOWS. NOBODY. IT'S, YEAH. HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT FOREVER. SEE GUYS, SOME POINT. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT. ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT, GOODNIGHT. GOODNIGHT EVERYONE. THANK YOU. THANKS EVERYBODY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.