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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AGENDA MEETING TO BE HELD VIA ZOOM-ENABLED VIDEO CONFERENCE THURSDAY, February 10, 2022 – 6:30 P.M. ]
SO, UM, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE HAVE IS THE MINUTES, JUST TO GET A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING OUT OF THE WAY.UM, I THINK THAT, UM, SHARON IS FOR A MINOR CHANGE TO THE MINUTES.
UH, NANCY, DID YOU SEE SHARON'S EMAIL? YES.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM, IS IT? IF YOU CAN JUST REISSUE THEM AND WITH THE CHANGE THAT SHARON REQUESTED.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, WHAT'S IT, MIKE, YOU'RE MUTED.
UM, I, I THINK THAT AS I HEARD WHAT WAS SAID LAST TIME, AND I THINK THIS IS A SUPERB CON CON COMMENT BY SHARON, THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM, NOT WHERE THE PROBLEM MANIFEST ITSELF.
AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY INTELLIGENT COMMENT.
I DON'T RECALL, TARYN, I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL SHARON TALKING ABOUT A FUND HE DID.
AND WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT HOW A FUND WOULD BE PROVIDED BY WHOM TO ENABLE UPSTREAM, UH, HOMEOWNERS TO MITIGATE.
I, I DON'T RECALL ANY OF THAT.
I RECALL THE CORE CONCEPT, WHICH I, WHICH I THINK SHARON IS SPOT ON.
IT'S A REALLY INTELLIGENT COMMENT THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE STORES, BUT I DON'T THINK I RECALL ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE CREATION OF A FUND AND WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT OR ANYTHING.
I THINK, I THINK, I THINK THOSE ARE USEFUL.
I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE MINUTES.
I THINK THOSE ARE USEFUL TOPICS AND IMPORTANT TO TOPICS TO DISCUSS BECAUSE WE CAN'T IMPLEMENT A RECOMMENDATION ON SHARON'S INTELLIGENT COMMENT IF WE DON'T DISCUSS THOSE ISSUES.
I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.
OKAY, MIKE, WE DID, SHARON'S ORIGINAL COMMENT HAD TO DO WITH FUNDING, SO THAT WAS A STATEMENT SHE MADE.
HOWEVER, I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD MODIFY IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WITH WHAT SHARON SENT TO NANCY REALLY CAPTURED WHAT WAS REALLY THE, THE HIGHLIGHT OF THAT COMMENT WAS THAT WE SHOULD BE, WHICH AS MIKE POINTED OUT, WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM, NOT
WHY DON'T WE PICK UP SHARON IN THE MINUTES THE, UNLESS SHARON HAS AN OBJECTION TO THIS, BECAUSE IT'S HER COMMENT THAT WE SHOULD HEAR FROM SHARON.
WHY DON'T WE PICK UP HER CORE CONCEPT THAT, YOU KNOW, TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM, NOT SOLELY ON WHERE THE PROBLEM IS MANIFESTED AND THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OTHER OF OTHER, A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED IN THE FUTURE.
UM, UH, SUCH AS THE FUNDING FORM.
UH, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR ME.
BUT I DID DISCUSS, I, MY INITIAL STATEMENT WAS COULD WE CREATE A FUND PERHAPS FROM THE PEOPLE DOWNSTREAM WHO ARE GETTING FLOODED CONSTANTLY? BUT, UH, I'M HAPPY TO GO ALONG WITH WHATEVER YOU THINK IS THE BEST WAY TO EXPRESS IT IN THE MIN MINUTES.
I JUST FELT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING ABOUT IT SHOULD BE IN THE MINUTES.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES.
'CAUSE WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT FUNDS, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S IT COMING FROM AND WHO HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT AND, AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
BUT I THINK SOME, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS
SO I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT NANCY AND SHARON CAN WORK OUT AND THEN GET THE MINUTES.
UH, WELL, LET'S APPROVE THE MINUTES.
SO WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU, DO YOU MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THEM, MIKE? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AND SOMEONE SECONDED AND AUTHORIZED, UH, NANCY AND SHARON TO WORK OUT THE LANGUAGE.
OKAY, LIZ, ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY, VERY GOOD.
I THINK, MATT, YOU THERE? YEP.
I THINK WE COULD START WITH THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.
AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO'S ON.
COULD WE KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS? UM, QUESTION WHO'S GOING TO DO THE MINUTES TONIGHT? OH, VERY GOOD.
DO WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER? LIZ? MAYBE THIS WEEK YOU COULD DO THEM.
AND, AND WE NEED TO IDENTIFY FOR THE MINUTES.
WHO'S ON? I SEE, UH, MRS. EVANS IS ON AND, UH, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, EXPERT, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT.
I DON'T, I SAW ONE, I SAW TWO OTHER, I SEE TWO OTHER, TWO OTHER NAMES THERE.
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BELIEVE ONE IS THE ACTUAL APPLICANT.UM, AND THEN I'M NOT QUITE SURE THE, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ME.
I'M THE OWNER, UH, 14 HIGH POINT LANE, JOSEPH? YES.
AND THEN I THINK SS GRAHAM, I GUESS, IS SHE, GRAHAM IS THE ENGINEER.
WHAT'S THE FIRST THING? SO WE COULD JUST GET IT IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE.
JOSEPH, JOE, I MEAN, NO, JOSEPH N NOT NO THE ENGINEER, BUT THE ENGINEER IS SHAA GRAHAM, SS H E A.
WOULD YOU JOSEPH WITH HUDSON ENGINEERING.
JOSEPH, WOULD YOU MIND, UM, UH, HITTING THE VIDEO ON YOUR THING? AND, AND, AND, UH, OKAY.
DO YOU MIND, UH, WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING ON YOUR, UH, YOUR, UH, HI.
UM, I'M, I'M ACTUALLY THE ONE CALLING FROM THE, THE PHONE.
I'M THE, UH, ENGINEER FROM HUDSON ENGINEERING.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY I'M REMOTING WITH MY, UM, MY OTHER COMPUTER.
SO I CAN'T USE A, A CAMERA TO SHOW FOR, FOR MY, UM, FOR MY CAMERA, BUT I CAN USE IT FOR MY PLANS.
I TURNED MY VIDEO ON, SO, UM, TO SPARE YOU ALL SEEING ME GREEN, I WILL JUST, UH, USE MY VOICE IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
WE, WE KNOW WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE.
UH, WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANNA DO? I THINK WHAT WE WANNA DO, I THINK IS PERHAPS IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO WALK US THROUGH THE PROJECT WITH, I THINK THAT'S, UH, SHAY YOU PROBABLY, THAT'S YOUR COMPUTER SET UP TO GIVE US SOME, UH, WALKTHROUGH OF THE SITE.
I KNOW I, I WAS HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE LOCATING THE RAIN GARDEN AND ORIENTATING MYSELF TOWARDS, UM, WHERE THE, THE LOOKS AS THOUGH IF I'M RE IF I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT WAS SENT TO US, THE NEW HOUSE WILL BE CLOSER TO THE WATER COST THAN THE EXISTING HOUSE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF, IF YOU COULD JUST WALK US THROUGH WHERE THE WATER RETENTION DEVICES ARE VISUALLY ON THE SCREEN.
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ALL OF US FOR THE DISCUSSION.
UM, SO THE EXISTING SITE, OF COURSE CONSISTS OF, UH, AN EXISTING DWELLING AND DRIVEWAY AND OF COURSE LANDSCAPING.
UM, AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO, UH, PROVIDE A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED HOUSE, UH, PATIO POOL, COVERED PORCHES AND DRIVEWAY.
UM, WE PLAN ON CAPTURING A MAJORITY OF THE HOUSE.
LEMME JUST NAVIGATE TO, WE PLAN ON CAPTURING A MAJORITY OF THE HOUSE, WHICH PRETTY MUCH CONSISTS OF, UH, THE REAR PORTION OF THE DWELLING PATIO, UH, COVERED PORCH AND POOL.
WE PLAN ON CAPTURING THAT, UM, AND CONVEYING THE WATER INTO TEX MM-HMM.
UM, AND THAT'S COMPLETELY TAKEN OFFLINE, UM, IN THE FRONT.
HOWEVER, UM, THE FRONT PORTION OF THE HOUSE, ALONG WITH THE, UH, PORTION OF THE DRIVEWAY, THAT AREA, UM, ACTUALLY COMBINES WITH THE WATER CAPTURED BY THE DRIVEWAY.
AND IT IS NOT, UM, PLACED INTO GROUND, IS ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO FLOW OFF SITE, UH, BECAUSE THESE COLD TECHS ACTUALLY PULL WATER OFF.
UH, A SITE DOESN'T ALLOW WATER AS MUCH WATER TO FLOW OFF THE SITE.
UM, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE LETTING THE DRIVEWAY, THE WATER CAPTURED BY THE DRIVEWAY AND THE FRONT PORTION OF THE HOUSE, UM, WE ARE STILL DECREASING THE FLOWS THAT ARE LEAVING THE HOUSE.
WE'RE STILL, UM, MAKING A, A POSITIVE EFFECT ON THIS SITE.
I JUST, JUST, JUST, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IS THE WATERCOURSE PLEASE? OR THE, THE WETLAND? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? WATERCOURSE ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, IT IS, IT MERGES FROM, UH, GRAVEL BOULDER AREA AND FLOWS DOWN ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE AND THEN TURNS, UH, AT THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY AND, UH, ENTERS TWO CULVERTS THAT GO UNDER HIGH POINT LANE.
AND ON, ON THE FRONT BATH, COULD YOU GO BACK TO WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS? YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, IT'S GONNA BE FLOW.
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS GONNA BE FLOWING OFF.
WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS, BETH, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT WATER THAT FLOWS OFF THE DRIVEWAY? THE, IT'S JUST THE, IT'S JUST THE ENDS OF THE, OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT ARE FLOWING OFF.
THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE PICKED UP BY THE PROPOSED, UM, TRENCH DRAINS AND TAKE HIM TO THE RAIN GARDEN FOR TREATMENT PRIOR TO FLOWING, UH, TO THE CULVERTS WHERE THE STREAM ENTERS GO UNDER THE ROAD.
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SO IT'S NOT SO IT'S NOT MUCH, IT'S JUST NO, NO, IT'S NOT MUCH.AND THE ENTIRE DRIVEWAY FLOWS TO THE STREET NOW, SO, OKAY.
THE, THE OTHER, THERE'S PHYSICALLY GET THE WATER THERE, AND COULD YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO WHERE THE, UM, UM, UH, COLEX GO ONE BETH BACK HERE.
WHAT'S THE DEPTH TO ROCK WHERE THE CAL TEST GONNA GO? UH, I'M GONNA TURN THAT OVER TO SHAY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DID THE TESTING ON THE SITE.
SHAY, WHAT'S THE, UH, DEPTH TO, UH, TO, UM, UH, THERE WAS ACTUALLY, UH, NO LEDGE ROCK.
UH, THEY DID, WE DID A TESTING OF, UH, DOWN TO 82 INCHES AND WE DIDN'T ENCOUNTER LEDGE ROCK IN THE BACK WHERE WE HAVE QUALEX, BUT WE DID ENCOUNTER, UM, GROUNDWATER AROUND SIX FEET DOWN.
SHAY, I CAN'T HEAR ANY WORDS YOU'RE SAYING.
COULD YOU JUST SPEAK A LITTLE SLOWER? YOUR WORDS ARE COMING TOGETHER.
UH, WE DID NOT ENCOUNTER ANY LEDGE ROCK, UM, BUT WE DID ENCOUNTER GROUNDWATER AT A DEPTH OF AROUND SIX FEET.
AND HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED? 'CAUSE I KNOW ON THE CALTECH YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SAND ON THE BOTTOM, A LOCK AND SAND, AND YOU PUT THE CALTECH IN AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A, A FOOT OR TWO.
I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT'S ON TOP.
HOW MUCH TOTAL DO YOU NEED FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE COLEX? SO FOR THIS SYSTEM, WHICH WE'RE USING THREE 30, UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE A THREE FOOT SEPARATION FROM THE GROUNDWATER TO THE BOTTOM OF OUR SYSTEM, WHICH IN THIS CASE WOULD BE OUR GRAVEL.
SO IT'D BE, UM, IT WOULD BE ROUGHLY AND, UH, A FOOT OF GRAVEL PLUS THE TWO AND A HALF FEET TO THE SYSTEM ALONG WITH THE GRAVEL ON TOP.
AGAIN, HOW MUCH IS, HOW MUCH IS HOW MUCH METAL? THE CULTECH, I'M SORRY.
THERE'S ABOUT A FOOT OF GRAVEL UNDERNEATH THE RIGHT.
AND THEN HOW MUCH IS THE CALL TECH? THE CALTECH'S ABOUT 2.5 FEET.
AND SO YOU ONLY NEED ABOUT, YOU ONLY NEED, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
YOU ONLY, I THINK KAREN HAS A LOT OF BACKGROUND NOISE.
YOU ONLY NEED ABOUT FIVE FEET FOR THE TOTAL SYSTEM RIGHT FROM THE TOP TO BOTTOM, CORRECT.
DEPENDING ON THE SYSTEM THAT YOU USE.
UM, MINIMUM IS AROUND FIVE FEET, UM, FOUR FEET WITH ABOUT FILLING, UM, AND AROUND SEVEN FEET FOR THE BIGGER SYSTEM.
AND DO YOU HAVE SEVEN FEET OF ABOVE, UM, ABOVE THE GROUND GROUNDWATER? THERE'S SEVEN FEET, UH, TWO GROUNDWATER, YES.
MY COMMANDMENT, MIKE, ARE YOU FINISHED? YEAH, I'M SORRY.
THOSE ARE MY ONLY TWO QUESTIONS.
COULD WE GO BACK TO THE RAIN GARDEN IN THE FRONT? I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE RAIN GARDEN IN THE FRONT BY THE DRIVEWAY.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT SOME OF THE, THE RUNOFF FROM THE HOUSE IS GONNA THE RAIN GARDEN? YES.
IT'S, IT'S BEING CAPTURED BY ROOF LEADERS AND IT'S CONVEYED INTO THE TRENCH DRAINS IN THE DRIVEWAY, AND THEY'RE ALL, UH, TO THE RAIN GARDEN.
SO THIS IS, THIS, UM, TREATS THE WATER QUALITY VOLUME AND THEN ALLOWS IT TO FLOW INTO THE STREET.
I, I, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION THERE.
I MEAN, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THERE'S LESS RUNOFF NOW.
IS THAT WHAT YOU HAD SAID WITH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION? THERE'S LESS RUNOFF THAN THERE WAS? YES.
WAS THE PRIOR, DID THE PRIOR DWELLING CAPTURE THE RUNOFF FROM THE GUTTERS INTO A DEVICE OR, OR A, IN OTHER WORDS, THE BUILDING THAT'S COMING DOWN, DID THAT, THE RAIN WATER HITTING THE ROOF THERE, DID THAT GO INTO SOME SORT OF, UH, DRY WELL OR CALTECH DEVICE? NO, NOT THAT WE SAW.
UM, WE SAW BASED ON, UH, TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, THE WATER FLOWS OVERLAND AND COLLECTS INTO THE BROOK AS IT MAKES ITS WAY TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, AS YOU NOTICE THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE FLOODING ISSUES IN THE TOWN AND THEY REALLY DO START AT THE TOP OF THE HILL.
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WELL, AESTHETICALLY, A RAIN GARDEN AND AS A GARDENER, A RAIN GARDEN APPEALS TO ME GREATLY AS ITS SOLUTION.UH, WE HAVE FOUND THAT WE HAVE DIFFICULTY, AND IT HAS ALMOST BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE TOWN TO SEE THAT THE DEEDS ARE REGISTERED ON THE HOUSES WITH RAIN GARDENS.
AND WE, EVEN IF THEY ARE REGISTERED WITH THE DEEDED, WE HAVE A CONCERN THAT, UM, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY, THE CONCERN IS NOT WITH THE PERSON WHO IS BUILDING THE HOUSE AND IS PUTTING IN THE RAIN GARDEN, BUT IN SUBSEQUENT FUTURE TIME THAT THE RAIN GARDEN BE MAINTAINED AS A SOURCE OF, UM, RETAINING WATER, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE AT LEAST TO BE ENSURED THAT ALL OF THE HOUSE WA WATER COMING OFF OF THE HOUSE ITSELF WOULD BE CAPTURED IN CULTEC DEVICES? COULD YOU ADD SOME DEVICES AND CAPTURE THE WATER THAT WAY RATHER THAN A RAIN GARDEN? UM, THE DIFFICULTY WITH THAT WAS DEALING WITH THE, THE GROUNDWATER, UM, IN THE BACKYARD DOING A BIT OF REGRADING TO KIND OF LEVEL OFF THE, THE BACKYARD AND HELP WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THAT IS WHAT BASICALLY PROVIDED US OUR TWO EXTRA FEET FROM THE SIX FEET, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE CAPABLE OF FITTING THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW, OR ELSE WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN A SMALLER SYSTEM, UM, TO FIND A SPOT, UM, SOMEWHERE ELSE AROUND THE HOUSE MIGHT BE DIFFICULT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO.
BECAU, BECAUSE I, I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TREATING THE, THE WATER ON THE DRIVEWAY, UH, THAT THAT'S A REALLY NICE THING THAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND AS I SAID, MY PROBLEM WITH, WITH THE RAIN GARDEN REALLY IS NOT CONCEPTUALLY WITH THE CONCEPT OF A RAIN GARDEN, IT'S JUST THAT OUR EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN THAT WE CAN'T SEEM TO GET IT ON THE DEEDS.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY WHEN THERE'S A TRANSFER OF PROPERTY, SOMEONE WOULD KNOW THAT IT REALLY SERVED A PURPOSE OTHER THAN BEING ATTRACTIVE.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF TRYING TO RETAIN WATER, THIS IS AN ISSUE, UM, TO LOOK AT.
SO THAT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? WELL, I WAS, I WAS GONNA ASK BE BETH, IF YOU RUN INTO THIS ISSUE, BEF THE, THE ISSUE IS, AND YOU MAY HAVE RUN INTO IT AND YOU MAY HAVE A SOLUTION, UM, THE ISSUE IS, AS, AS TERRY SAYS, NOT WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S BEING DONE AND YOU KNOW, IS PROPOSING THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT SELLS THE PROPERTY TO, UH, SOMEONE DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON, UH, THEY'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE LAND THAT'S NOW OCCUPIED BY THE RAIN GARDEN.
AND THEN PART OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL, UM, PLAN GETS DESTROYED.
HAVE YOU, HAVE, YOU, YOU, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER WAY OTHER THAN PUTTING IT INTO THE LAND RECORDS? UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE, MIKE, IS WE HAVE, UM, WHEN WE HAVE SYSTEMS LIKE THIS, WE HAVE OFTEN WHEN THEY NEED A WETLAND PERMIT.
AND SINCE THE RAIN GARDEN IS WITHIN THE WETLAND SETBACK, UH, WE'VE ASKED OR, OR WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO COME UP WITH SORT OF A, A HOMEOWNER'S MAINTENANCE, UH, GUIDE FOR IT.
AND ONE OF THE UNUSUAL THINGS ABOUT THIS HOUSE, AND I APOLOGIZE IF YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW THIS, BUT JOSEPH, UM, AND HIS FAMILY ARE TAKING AN EXISTING HOUSE AND, AND TAKING IT DOWN, BUT THE NEW HOUSE WILL BE TOTALLY, UH, SOLAR.
IT'S, IT'S INTENDED THAT WHILE THEY, THEY'LL USE PROPANE OR OR GAS FOR COOKING, IT'S INTENDED THAT THIS HOUSE WILL BE TOTALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT FOR SOLAR, WHICH IS WHY IT'S KIND OF ANGLED THE WAY IT IS.
AND, UM, SO IT, THERE'S, THERE'S A CERTAIN UNCERTAINTY IN MY OPINION, WITH IF THEY DECIDE TO SELL THE HOUSE DOWN THE ROAD, THE NEW OWNERS ARE GONNA NEED TO KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR SOLAR PANELS AND WHAT'S EXPECTED THAT WAY AS WELL.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT, UH, THE STORMWATER MEASURES THAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THIS PROPERTY, UM, AT, ARE PRETTY SIMPLE, UH, MEASURES.
AND AS LONG AS THE HOMEOWNERS UNDERSTAND THE DESIGN AND WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR UPKEEP THE SAME WAY THEY'LL, THEY'LL HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE SOLAR PANELS.
UM, I THINK THAT IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT JUST ANOTHER HOUSE, IT'S ACTUALLY AN ENERGY, UH, EFFICIENT AND, AND, UH, SELF-SUFFICIENT HOUSE.
SO ALL I CAN SAY IS WE HAVE BEEN ASKED AS PART OF WETLAND PERMITS TO COME UP WITH A SORT OF A SIMPLE OWNER'S MANUAL FOR THE STORMWATER DEVICES.
SO THAT, THAT'S AN INTERESTING COMMENT.
I HAVE A QUESTION SINCE, SINCE, UH, YOU'RE USING PROPANE GAS.
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BEAR WITH ME, THIS IS JUST, IT CAME INTO MY MIND BECAUSE THERE ARE AREAS OF THE TOWN THAT ARE NOT ON SANITARY SEWERS.IS THIS HOUSE CONNECTED TO A SANITARY SEWER OR IS IT USING A SEPTIC SYSTEM? I BELIEVE IT'S ON SE SANITARY SEWER.
BETH, CAN I GO BACK? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE YES, GEORGE, GO AHEAD GEORGE.
SO WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT, UH, PERMEABLE SURFACES.
I SEE THAT THE DRIVEWAY IS AN ASPHALT DRIVEWAY.
HAS ANY CONSIDERATION BEEN GIVEN TO CHANGING FROM THE ASPHALT DRIVEWAY TO A, A PERMEABLE SURFACE THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE RUNOFF? I, I DON'T IF I MAY JUST, UM, BUT IN HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, IT'S BEEN CONSIDERED, THE ONE ISSUE I HAVE WITH, UH, PERMEABLE PAVEMENT IN A RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAY IS, UH, THEY REQUIRE, UH, THE, THE PAVEMENT ITSELF REQUIRES MAINTENANCE AND, AND VACUUMING AND CLEANING.
AND, UH, IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT A, A HOMEOWNER WOULD WANT TO TAKE ON OR BE EVEN BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEBODY WHO COULD DO IT.
SO, UM, IT CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, PARKING AREAS OR, OR TEMPORARY PARKING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IN A RESIDENTIAL SITUATION WHERE, UM, ICE AND SNOW REMOVAL IS GONNA BE A ROUTINE THING, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S A PRACTICAL SOLUTION.
AND IT REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE GOOD PERMEABILITY IN THE SOILS.
UM, WHICH IN THIS CASE, UM, A LOT OF THIS SITE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN, I'LL SAY, IF I CAN USE THE WORD MANIPULATED IN THE PAST BY, UH, PAST OWNERS, I, I THINK IT'S SAFER IN THIS CASE, TO COLLECT THE WATER AND, AND DIRECT IT TO A, A RAIN GARDEN TYPE OF, OF WATER QUALITY SYSTEM.
AND ALSO TO ADD, UH, IF, IF I MAY, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE RUNOFF THAT'S ACTUALLY COMING OFF OF THE DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT PORTION OF THE HOUSE, UM, ALTHOUGH, ALTHOUGH THAT IS A, A GOOD AMOUNT OF WATER THAT IS BEING TREATED AND, AND ALLOWED OFF THE, THE PROPERTY, UM, WE ARE STILL GREATLY DECREASING THE AMOUNT OF OVERALL RUNOFF FROM THE EXISTING TO THE PROPOSED.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE HAD, UH, FROM THE EXISTING ABOUT 3.34 CUBIC, UM, UH, C F S WAS LEAVING THE SITE.
AND NOW WE, UH, BASED ON THE, WITH THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION, IT'LL DROP DOWN AT 2.73.
SO THERE STILL IS A LOT OF REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S LEAVING THE SITE, UM, AND CONTRIBUTING TO FLOODING AREAS.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE WATER COMING OFF THE DRIVEWAY.
IT SEEMS YOU SEEM TO HAVE A DEVICE THERE.
ARE YOU TREATING THE WATER IN ANY WAY BEFORE IT GOES TO THE RAIN GARDEN? THE, THE TRENCH STRENGTH THEMSELVES, WILL THEY, I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THEM.
THEY OFTEN, ANY SAND OR ANYTHING GRAVEL THAT IS ON THE DRIVEWAY WILL GET CAUGHT IN THAT TRENCH DRAIN.
AND THE TRENCH DRAINS ARE, ARE TYPICALLY CLEANED OUT AS PART OF THE REGULAR MAINTENANCE.
AND, UH, NEXT TO THE TRENCH DRAINS, THERE ARE ALSO, UM, SOME BOXES THAT PROVIDE PRETREATMENT BEFORE GOING TO THE RAIN GARDEN.
I'M SORRY, YOU BROKE UP AGAIN, SHEA, COULD YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID? SORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, THE, UM, CONNECTED TO THE TRENCH DRAINS ARE SOME BOXES WHICH WILL PROVIDE PRETREATMENT FOR ANY KIND OF LEAVES AND DEBRIS, UH, BEFORE IT GOES TO THE RAIN GARDEN TO HELP THE RING GARDEN.
LIZ, YOU HAD A QUESTION? I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO QUESTIONS IF THAT'S OKAY.
UM, FIRST ABOUT THE RING GARDEN, THIS IS, I JUST WANT CURIOUS, UM, IF YOU ARE INTENDING TO PUT ALL NATIVE PLANTS IN THERE SINCE THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP WITH THE LONGEVITY OF THE RAIN GARDEN.
I THINK THAT'S, AND FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE WHO MANAGE RAIN GARDENS, AS LONG AS YOU'RE STICKING TO NATIVE PLANTS, THAT DOES HELP WITH THE LONGEVITY OF THE RAIN GARDEN.
YES, WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE ALL NATIVE PLANTS IN THE MITIGATION, PLANTING AND THE RAIN GARDEN.
BUT MITIGATION, PLANTING, YOU MEAN THE TREES YOU'RE REPLACING OR, UH, NOT THE TREES SO MUCH AS THE PLANTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE ADJACENT AREA TO THE STREAM.
SO I'LL GET BACK TO THE TREES LATER.
MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, SINCE SHEA MENTIONED HOW MUCH WATER IS LEAVING THE PROPERTY NOW VERSUS WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE, DOES THAT, UM, CALCULATION TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WHEN YOU REMOVE 16 TREES THAT THE WATER THEY'RE CAPTURING AND HOLDING ON THE PROPERTY IS, I REALIZE YOU'RE REPLACING WITH TREES, BUT THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE YOUNGER TREES AND THEY WON'T BE CAPTURING, SO THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL WATER THAT THOSE 16 TREES ARE NO LONGER CAPTURING, MAYBE MINUS THE FEW THAT ARE ON THEIR WAY OUT ANYWAY THAT ARE D
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THAT ARE DISEASED? UM, I, I CAN ANSWER THAT SIMPLY TO SAY THAT, UH, WE DID HAVE AN ARBORIST, UH, LOOK AT THE TREES AND ASSESS THE TREES AND, UM, WE, WHILE WE DIDN'T USE EYE TREE AND CALCULATE HOW MUCH WATER EACH TREE IS TAKING UP, UH, IN MY OPINION, COMPARED TO THE WATER THAT WILL COME OFF OF THE NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, UH, IT'S A FAIRLY MINOR PORTION OF THE, OF THE INCREASE IN RUNOFF.BUT, UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE REPLACING THE TREES.
SO, SO I THINK THE NET ON THAT WAS WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT, UM, INITIALLY WE WOULD HAVE, UM, THOSE TREES WOULD NO LONGER BE ABSORBING THE WATER.
EVENTUALLY A VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THEY WERE ABSORBING WILL BE ABSORBED AGAIN.
BUT GIVEN THE STATISTICS YOU QUOTED, I AGREE, WE PROBABLY, IF WE CHECK THE I THREE CALCULATIONS, WE PROBABLY ARE STILL HAVING, UM, A NET GAIN IN THE RE IN THE RETENTION OF WATER, OR AT LEAST WE'RE NOT EXCEEDING THE WATER THAT WAS LEAVING BEFORE.
I, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT, TERRY.
AND, AND THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER IS WE ARE PROPOSING TO PLANT, UH, THAT ADJACENT AREA, THE, THE WATERCOURSE ADJACENT AREA WITH NATIVE SHRUBS, UH, THAT WE'LL DO A BETTER JOB OF, OF TAKING UP, UM, THE SHALLOW GROUNDWATER THAN THE EXISTING LAWN IS DOING.
UH, UH, BETH, DID YOU, I DON'T WANNA BE SURE I HEARD YOU RIGHT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RAIN GARDEN, YOU WERE OUT, I THINK THAT IT'S WITHIN THE BUFFER OF THE WETLAND.
IT'S, IT'S SITTING DOWN IN THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, UH, MIKE THAT WHERE THE, THE STREAM TAKES A ALMOST A 90 DEGREE, NOT QUITE A 90 DEGREE TURN, AND IS JOINED BY A WATERCOURSE FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
SO IT, IT'S SITTING RIGHT ABOVE THAT.
AND, UM, IT'S AN AREA NOW THAT IS LAWN AND, UH, PROBABLY NOT DOING MUCH TO FILTER ANY RUNOFF GOING TOWARD THE, TOWARDS THE STREAM.
SO, SO, SO ANY FUTURE LAND, ANY FUTURE LAND DISTURBANCE OF THE WET, UH, OF THE RAIN GARDEN WOULD REQUIRE A WETLAND PERMIT RIGHT PERMIT.
IF IT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY REBUILT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD REQUIRE A WETLAND PERMIT, BUT THE INTENT WOULD BE AS, AS MS. SILVERSTEIN SAID, UH, TO GET IT PLANTED WITH NATIVE PLANTS THAT DON'T REQUIRE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE OR TINKERING.
NOW, WHAT I WAS ALWAYS FOCUSING ON THAT IF A FUTURE HOMEOWNER WANTED TO GET RID OF IT, THEY'D HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FIRST.
AND IT WOULD BE IN, IN THE RECORDS THAT THAT WAS RAIN GARDEN WAS PART OF THE, UH, CONDITIONS OF GRANTING THE PRESENT ONE, THE, THE WETLAND PERMIT? I, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST IT BE PART OF THAT PERMIT.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, MIKE, I THINK THE REALITY WITH THE PROBLEM WE RUN INTO WITH THE WETLAND, UH, WITH THE RAIN GARDENS IS SOMEONE JUST LETS EVERYTHING DIE AND FILL IT, FILL IT IN.
AND I, I, I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.
I SAID, I THINK THE PROBLEM WE FACE WITH THE RAIN GARDEN IS THAT SOMEONE'S NOT GONNA GO IN AND DO ANYTHING BECAUSE UNLESS THEY'RE GONNA BUILD SOMETHING THERE.
SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE PROBLEM IS THAT IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE MAINTENANCE MANUAL, AND THIS IS RATHER A, A SAD CASE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A HOUSE THAT'S VERY ENERGY EFFICIENT, VERY LOVELY, IS THAT IT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY LET EVERYTHING DIE AND WE KIND OF PUT SOME GRASS BACK IN AND, AND THAT'S WHERE IT IS, BECAUSE MUCH OF THE HOUSE, IF I'M LOOKING AT THE SCHEMATIC DIRECTLY, MUCH OF THE HOUSE LIES WITHIN THE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER OF THIS WATERCOURSE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT A WATERCOURSE THAT IS THEN FLOWING INTO THE MUNICIPAL STORM SEWER SYSTEM.
IF I'M, I'M READING THE THING CORRECTLY, DO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THAT COVID THAT IT GOES INTO, GOES INTO THE, UM, STREET DRAINS? OR IS THAT COVID JUST TAKING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND IT'S COMING OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE? IT DOES NOT GO INTO THE STREET DRAINS, TERRY.
IT, UM, IT'S A LITTLE SCARY ACTUALLY.
WHAT IT DOES, I, I HOPE WE'RE NOT BEING RECORDED TOO LITERALLY, BUT IT GOES INTO A DOUBLE CULVERT UNDER THE STREET AND UNDER THE HOUSE, I BELIEVE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE THROUGH THEIR BACKYARD AND DAYLIGHTS QUITE A BIT FURTHER, UH, AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY.
SO IT, DAYLIGHT HAS SURFACE WATER, BUT IT'S NOT, IT DOES NOT GO INTO THE STORM SYSTEM.
THEN I GUESS THAT WAS A, I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT THEN.
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STREAM THEN THAT THAT IS RUNNING DOWNHILL FROM WHERE, WHERE THEYIT'S VERY STEEP SIDED AND VERY NARROW, BUT IT DOES CARRY GROUNDWATER DISCHARGE THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND THEN UNDER HIGH POINT LANE.
AND IT GOES UNDER SOMEBODY'S HOUSE? IT GOES UNDER SOMEBODY'S HOUSE, MIKE? IT, IT IS, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
I STOOD THERE, I STOOD THERE WHEN I WAS OUT DOING THE DONATION, AND I JUST SCRATCHED MY HEAD.
BUT BOY, JOSEPH REALLY BOUGHT THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE STREET, THE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE STREET HERE.
SO, UM, I, I, AS I SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS DESIGNED OR WHEN IT WAS INSTALLED, BUT, UH, IT GOES IN TWO PIPES AND IT COMES OUT, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE COUNTY, G I S IT COMES OUT, UM, FURTHER DOWNSTREAM.
LET'S SEE, UH, NANCY, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, LIZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE, GEORGE, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YES, LIZ, GO AHEAD.
UM, ARE WE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE TREES BEING REPLACED LATER OR SHOULD I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? NOW? YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT NOW.
SO FIRST OF ALL, BETH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE FOCUS ON NATIVE PLANTS, AND I LOVE THE, WHAT YOU MENTIONED, HOW YOU'RE PUTTING IN MORE NATIVE SHRUBS ALONG THE WATER COURSE TO HELP ABSORB THAT WATER.
SO ALONG THOSE LINES, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT SOME OF THE, LIKE THE GINKGO TREES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS JUST, SOMEBODY FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT SOME OF THE TREE CHOICES OR IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO LIKE THE NORWAY.
WELL, THE, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, OH, THE NORWAY SPRUCE.
IF, IF IT'S, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER INSTEAD OF THE GINKGO AND THE NORWAY SPRUCE AND THE LEO, THE LITTLE LEAH LINDEN DOING THINGS THAT ARE NATIVE, AND ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE REMOVING SOME OAKS AND THOSE SUPPORT THE MOST WILDLIFE IN TERMS OF BIRDS, INSECTS, CATERPILLARS THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER REPLACING AN OAK OR TWO.
I WILL LET, I'LL LET JOSEPH RESPOND TO THAT.
BUT, UM, IT, IT, THE, THE USE OF NATIVES WOULD BE, UH, A PRIORITY IN THE WETLAND, IMMEDIATE WETLAND, BUFFER AREA.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE WAS A REASON THAT THOSE OTHER SPECIES WERE, WERE CHOSEN.
'CAUSE THERE IS A NATIVE DOGWOOD AND WHICH IS ACTUALLY VERY MUCH NEEDED IN THIS AREA.
AND THEN A NON-NATIVE DOOR, DOBLE DOGWOOD, THE ARBORIST WAS THE ONE THAT PUT THAT TOGETHER.
I, I PRETTY MUCH TOLD HIM TO PICK WHATEVER HE FELT WAS MO MOST COMFORTABLE AND TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF REMOVING THE TREES WHERE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAD TO SOMEHOW PUT TOGETHER ENOUGH TREES SO THAT WE MET 1.1, 110% OF WHAT WE WERE TAKING AWAY, I THINK, OR SOMETHING.
NO, I THINK IT'S LOWER THAN THAT, BUT OKAY.
LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT SURE I'M OPEN TO ANY TREES REALLY TO PLANT OR, OKAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE BIGGEST REASON WHY WE'RE TAKING THESE TREES DOWN WAS BECAUSE OF THE SOLAR.
UM, THEY'RE COMPLETELY BLOCKING ALL OF THE 78 PANELS THAT WERE INSTALLING.
SO, UM, THOSE WERE THE STRAIGHT FROM THE SOLAR COMPANY THAT THEY CAME IN, THEY MET, DID ALL THE MEASUREMENTS, THEY TOOK OUR PLANS, PUT IT ON THE PROPERTY, FACED IT IN AN ANGLE TO OPTIMIZE IT.
UM, BUT THEN, YEAH, I, I DON'T MIND IF YOU LET ME KNOW WHICH OTHER 16 TREES YOU'D WANT US TO PLANT.
IS THAT SOMETHING AARON AARON SCHMIDT CAN WORK WITH? YES.
WHAT WE'LL DO ON THE RECOMMENDATION IS ASK THAT AARON REVIEW THIS AND REPLACE WITH AS MUCH MONEY AS WHEREVER POSSIBLE WITH NATIVE SPECIES.
AS LIZ POINTED OUT, THE NATIVE SPECIES DO THRIVE BETTER BECAUSE IT'S THEIR RIGHT LOCATION.
AND IN THE CASE OF SOME OF THE SELECTIONS, UM, IF WE CAN GET THINGS THAT ARE NUT BEARING, IT REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE ANIMAL POPULATION AND BIRDS IN THE AREA.
HOW ABOUT FRUIT TREES? I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A, A, YOU KNOW, A FAN OF FRUIT TREATS.
WELL, THE SMALLER TREES, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS YOU HAVE A METRIC YOU HAVE TO MEET.
SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
WE CAN SUGGEST THAT EVEN FRUIT TREES BE CONSIDERED.
UM, IS THERE A WEBSITE THAT SHOWS THE NATIVE TREES TO THE AREA? YES, THERE IS.
AND I THINK YOU CAN ACTUALLY ACCESS IT FROM THE TOWN WEBSITE, IF YOU GO OH TOWN WEBSITE TO WHERE THEY HAVE THE TREE LAW.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A, A LIST THERE OF, UM, WEBSITES THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST.
AND RIGHT THERE, THERE ARE A LIST OF NATIVES.
BUT I CERTAINLY THINK IF YOU WANNA PUT IN THINGS LIKE APPLE TREES OR A PEACH TREE, IT'S JUST AS GOOD AS A DOG WOULD AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
UM, MAY I, MAY I INTERVENE HERE? YES.
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THE LINDEN TREE AND THE GECKO GINKGO TREE.BECAUSE ONE OF THEM HAS, YOU KNOW, UNIQUE LEAVES AND THE OTHER ONE HAS A MARVELOUS FRAGRANCE.
SO THAT IF WE'D HAVE TO FIND NATIVE TREES THAT SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT, AND WITH THE FRUIT TREES, THEY REQUIRE A GREAT DEAL OF MAINTENANCE.
AND WHO, WHOEVER IS GOING TO BE TAKING CARE OF ALL OF THAT SHOULD BE AWARE OF IT BEFORE YOU PLANT THINGS.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I GUESS THAT GOES BACK TO, TO, TO JOE.
UH, YOU, YOU COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING TO, TO MAINTAIN YOUR FRUIT TREES.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY DOABLE.
I THINK THE BENEFIT OF JUST THE KIND OF HOLISTIC, HAVING APPLES OR PEAR TREES OR ANYTHING LIKE, THAT'S GREAT.
I MEAN, CAN WE GIVE YOU SOMETHING BACK EVERY SINGLE YEAR? RIGHT, ABSOLUTELY.
AND IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE ALL THE TREES HAVE TO GET TRIMMED IN, IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER EVERY YEAR OR TWO ANYWAY.
THEY DO REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE MAINTENANCE.
AND I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT MORE RISKY TOO, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE, UH, UPSTATE WHEN WE HAD A HOUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE ONE TREE GETS SICK, IT'S LIKE, IT'S DEVASTATING.
UH, I, WE LOST LIKE SIX PEAR TREES BECAUSE ONE GOT SICK AND IT WASN'T TAKEN CARE OF FAST ENOUGH.
SO I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY A THING, UH, SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.
SO I THINK, UH, MIKE NOAC IS OUR ARBORIST.
I, I DON'T MIND HAVING HIM WORK WITH, UM, AARON TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE TREES UP AND UM, UH, DEFINITELY PLANT, UH, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN THAT'S, UH, MORE NATIVE TODAY, I THINK THEY'LL CATCH 'EM.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT LESS RISK IN TERMS OF PLANTING THOSE, CORRECT? YES.
YEAH, DEFINITELY NATIVE TREES WILL A LOT LESS RISK.
AND WHAT'S REALLY FUN IS SOME OF THE NATIVE TREES, LIKE THE NATIVE DOGWOOD, UM, HAVE BERRIES ON THEM THAT WHILE NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING YOU'D WANT TO EAT, YOU WILL GET AN INCREDIBLE ARRAY OF BIRDS AND WILDLIFE, WHICH IS REALLY COOL.
WE HAVE DEER ON THE PROPERTY ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS.
THE DEER LIKE TO, WE'VE TWO FAMILIES.
TERRY ACTUALLY JUST MEANT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING AROUND YOUR TREES TO PROTECT THEM SO THE DEER DON'T KILL THEM.
THE NUTRIENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE BEGINNING.
ANY OTHER, LET'S SEE, GEORGE, UH, SHARON, ANYTHING ELSE? GEORGE, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, NANCY? NO, I THINK WE DID, I THINK, UM, I THINK GOING FORWARD, UH, WE HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS HERE THAT WE, WE PROBABLY ONCE AGAIN WILL ASK THAT THE RAIN GUARD BE PUT IN THE DEEDED.
AND WE INDICATE THAT THERE WILL BE A, UM, OWNER'S HOME MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR THE RAIN GARDEN AND THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT, UH, TO HAVE THE, UH, TO WORK WITH AARON FOR THE PLANTING OF, UM, NATIVE TREES AND SOME REPLACEMENTS ON THE TREES, POSSIBLY WITH FRUIT TREES.
AND I THINK THIS IS A NICE PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S A VERY INTERESTING PROJECT THAT YOU'RE GONNA GO COMPLETELY SOLO.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, I, THE WAY WE DESIGNED THE HOUSE WAS JUST TO ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT GENERATION WOULD WANT.
UH, 'CAUSE WE DON'T PLAN ON MOVING ANYTIME SOON.
AND YOU KNOW, I I, I SEE MY THREE KIDS NOW AND HOW EVEN THE SIX YEAR OLD, UH, EVERYTHING IS ABOUT ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
THEY, THEY KNOW TO SHUT OFF ALL THEIR LIGHTS IN THE, WHEN THEY LEAVE A ROOM AND TO SAVE AS MUCH POWER, YOU KNOW, ENERGY AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS, IT'S THERE.
I MEAN, IT, IT'S SOLAR AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PERFECT.
AND THESE PANELS ARE JUST GETTING MORE AND MORE EFFICIENT TOO.
SO, UM, LISTEN, IF EVERYONE CAN HAVE SOLAR ON THEIR HOUSE TO BE A PHENOMENAL THING, I THINK.
WELL, I THANK YOU AND I WISH YOU LUCK.
AND SINCE YOU HAVE CHILDREN, I THINK THE IDEA OF THE FRUIT TREES IS PARTICULARLY NICE BECAUSE THAT'S A YEAH, I AGREE.
JUST A NICE EXPERIENCE TO GROW YOUR OWN FOOD.
ANY, ANYTHING ELSE THAT I THINK, UH, I JUST, I JUST WANNA SAY NUT TREES ARE, ARE GOOD TOO.
SO I, I THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT AND I THINK WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THAT AND WE'LL BE SENDING A RECOMMENDATION ON TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THIS TO GO FORWARD.
AND, UM, USUALLY WE GET THAT OUT NEXT WEEK.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME EVERYONE.
NOTICE THAT KEN, JOAN HAS JOINED KEN JONES HAS JOINED US TONIGHT.
GLAD TO FINALLY BE HERE AFTER A LONG ABSENCE.
AND I, AND I NOTICED THAT CHRIS HAS COME BACK.
CHRIS, COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? SURE.
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WOULD, I'M THE, UH, PROPOSED, GONNA BE THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE PROPERTY.CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE A LAST NAME? CHRIS.
I WAS TRYING TO, TO TO MONITOR AS MUCH AS I COULD, BUT I HAD A COUPLE THINGS GOING ON.
THAT'S, THAT'S PERFECTLY OKAY.
WE'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHO, WHO WAS, WHO WAS WITH US.
KEN, ONCE AGAIN, KIND OF CAUGHT YOU OFF THERE, BUT CHRIS SUDDENLY APPEARED AGAIN.
SO I GUESS WE HAVE THE REST OF OUR, UM, AGENDA AND, UH, THE ELMWOOD F E I S WAS ACCEPTED LAST NIGHT BY THE TOWN BOARD.
MIKE AND I HAVE OBTAINED PAPER COPIES AND WE'VE STARTED TO READ THEM, UM, I THINK IT'S 309 PAGES.
UM, AND, UH, UH, THE PLAN THAT WE, UH, CAREFULLY TALKED WITH TERRY ABOUT IS, WE'LL, IS TO FOLLOW OUR NORMAL PRACTICE THAT, UH, TERRY AND DONNA, WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE SHE WAS, UH, SHE HAS A COLON SINUS, BUT TERRY AND DONNA AND I WILL TRY TO PREPARE SOME KIND OF FIRST DRAFT, UH, TO SEND OUT BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, TWO, UH, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
SO THAT THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, A FRAMEWORK FOR DISCUSSION.
IT'LL OBVIOUSLY BE SOMETHING THAT'LL NEED, UH, UM, A LOT OF, UH, REVISIONS, BUT IT, IT'S MORE ORGAN, IT IS MORE ORGANIZED AND MORE RATIONAL.
YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A DRAFT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL SAYING YOU NEED DRAFT ONE TO GET TO DRAFT TWO.
SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN, UH, HAVE A FRAMEWORK FOR, UH, UM, FORGIVING COMMENTS.
AND THEN, UM, WE'LL GET EVERYONE'S COMMENTS IN, UM, AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING AFTER THE MEETING TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
AND, UH, WE'VE ASKED, UH, AARON NOT TO SCHEDULE ANYTHING, UH, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
WHAT'S THAT? THE 20, UM, I GUESS THAT'S THE, UH, 24TH.
UM, NOT TO SCHEDULE ANY APPLICATIONS SO WE CAN DEVOTE OUR WHOLE TIME TO, UH, TO, UM, TO GETTING EVERYONE'S COMMENTS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'LL FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, OUR NORMAL PRACTICES SENDING AROUND DRAFTS AND GETTING SUBSEQUENT COMMENTS AND TRYING TO GETTING OUT, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING'S GONNA BE MARCH 9TH AND WE'LL TRY TO GET IT OUT MAYBE A WEEK BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING SOMETHING LIKE MARCH TWO OR MARCH THREE.
ANYTHING ELSE, TERRY? WELL, I JUST WAS GONNA SAY, NOW, I, AARON GARRETT WAS SUPPOSED TO SEND YOU, I THINK ORIGINALLY WE HAD ASKED FOR PAPER COPIES.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT I THINK IF YOU HAVEN'T RECEIVED AN ELECTRONIC OR PAPER COPY BY MONDAY AFTERNOON, PLEASE SEND UH, GARRETT A NOTE SAYING, WHERE IS MY COPY? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THAT.
AND, UM, GARY, YOU MEAN THE REST OF US? YES.
SO THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT ALSO.
WELL, ARE YOU SAYING THAT I, I THOUGHT I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I THOUGHT GARY WAS GONNA SEND EVERYONE WITH C A C A PAPER COPY.
ARE YOU SAYING WE NOW THE OTHER MEMBERS? THIS, UH, WHEN I WAS THERE THIS MORNING, THAT WAS NOT THE IMPRESSION I WAS LEFT WITH.
AND I WAS SURPRISED 'CAUSE UH, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE HAD BEEN PROMISED A PAPER COPY FOR EVERYBODY.
WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE I SHOULD EMAIL GARRETT AND SAY THAT I, I WILL EMAIL GARRETT ON THAT, THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE C A C WOULD LIKE A PAPER COPY.
UH, DO AND IF HE NEEDS ANY ADDRESSES, PLEASE LET YOU KNOW IF HE NEEDS ANY PHYSICAL NO, THEY HAVE THE ADDRESSES.
'CAUSE THEY SENT US THIS TONIGHT.
THEY HAVE ALL THE ADDRESSES, BUT THEY HAVE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES TALKING ABOUT NO, NO, THEY HAVE THEM, IT'S PAPER.
THEY JUST SENT THE PAPER COPIES OUT FOR THE APPLICATION THAT WE JUST REVIEWED.
EVERYONE GOT THEIR PAPER COPIES.
OH, FAIR POINT, FAIR POINT, FAIR POINT, FAIR POINT.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET, UH, BOTH A, AN EMAIL AND A, UH, HARD COPY? THE REASON I'M ASKING YOU IS I'M NOT, I'M NOT HOME RIGHT NOW.
I'M ON VACATION AND, UH, SO I, I KNOW IT'S A LONG DOCUMENT, BUT I COULD LOOK AT IT WHILE, YOU KNOW, ONLINE AS BEST I CAN.
IT IT'S GONNA BE, WILL BE ON THE WEBSITE.
I THINK GEORGE, ISN'T THAT RIGHT, TERRY? UH, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE.
UH, IF, IF IT'S GONNA BE, IT PROBABLY IS THERE RIGHT NOW.
UH, MATT, DO YOU KNOW IF IT'S, IF THE, UH, ELM, UH, IF YOU DO YOU KNOW IF THE ELMWOOD, UM, IF I FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENTS ON, ON THE TOWN WEBSITE? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON YET.
I AM UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT GARRETT IS, UH, WORKING
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TO POST IT ON THE TOWN WEBSITE NOW.UM, I'M, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S ON JUST YET, BUT I THINK HE IS BOTH.
IS THAT THE DOCUMENT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT'S 300 PAGES? YES, MIKE.
UH, AND, AND SO WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GO TO, UM, THE TOWN WEBSITE, YOU, YOU CLICK ON THE TOP IN THE GREEN WHERE IT SAYS DEPARTMENTS, RIGHT.
AND THEN YOU'LL GET A LIST OF DEPARTMENTS AND COMMISSIONS AND YOU CLICK UNDER A C D N C COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
AND WHEN YOU GET THEIR PAGE ON THE LEFT IN THE GREEN, THEY'LL HAVE, UH, APPLICATIONS, THEY'LL HAVE
NO, IT'S TOWN, IT'S TOWN AND PLAIN.
THIS IS A TOWN APPLICATION, RIGHT, MEG? NO, NO, IT'LL BE ON, IT'LL BE ON CD AND C'S WEBSITE.
AND ON THE CD AND C WEBSITE PAGE ON THE GREEN ON THE LEFT, YOU WILL THEN SEE, UH, TOWN AND PLANNING BOARD APPLICATIONS.
AND YOU LOOK UNDER TOWN APPLICATIONS.
AND MATT, DO YOU KNOW THE NUMBER OF, UM, IT, I'M LOOKING IT IS POSTED, UH, IT'S UNDER ACTIVE APPLICATIONS TOWN BOARD TB 1802.
UH, THE F D I S IS POSTED WITH THE APPENDIX AND THE NOTICE OF COMPLETION.
AM I, DID I DESCRIBE MATT THE CORRECT WAY TO GEORGE OF HOW TO GET THERE? YEAH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CON DEPARTMENTS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, CONSERVATION ON THE LEFT SIDE, ACTIVE APPLICATIONS, TOWN BOARD.
I'LL FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD.
IF NOT, I'LL REACH OUT WITH SOME HELP, BUT THIS WAY.
YOU'RE NOT, WE CAN ASK, UH, MATT TO SEND IT TO YOU, UH, UH, DIRECTLY, BUT, UM MM-HMM.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE TOP POST WHEN YOU FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD.
SO THE NEXT THING UP WOULD BE, UH, THIS IS GONNA TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CLEAN HEATING AND COOLING AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY GRANT.
JUST ONE QUICK ON THE ELMA 'CAUSE WELL, NOW THAT I'M LOOKING AT IT, SO WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE FINAL E I S, NOT THE DRAFT E I S.
THE F E I SS IS WHAT WAS SUBMITTED LAST NIGHT.
ONE LAST QUESTION I'LL HAVE ABOUT MY NOTES,
SO HANG ON, LET ME JUST GET TO MY NOTES ABOUT MY, TO MY, THIS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO, UM, AARON, AS AARON WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY AT THE LAST MEETING, HE AND I ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY AND, UH, MAKE THE TOWN ELIGIBLE FOR ANOTHER $15,000 GRANT.
THIS ONE IS CALLED ENERGY SMART HOMES.
WE, AGAIN, WILL BE, UM, COLLABORATING SUSTAINABLE.
WESTCHESTER IS, HAS ORGANIZED A LOT OF THE WORK AROUND THIS, SO THERE'LL BE A TREMENDOUS HELP.
AND WE ARE GOING TO BE PARTNERING WITH INCORPORATED ARDSLEY FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND BY PARTNERING, WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO DO THE INFO SESSIONS AND THE OUTREACH.
UM, WE'RE NOT PARTNERING IN TERMS OF THE GRANT.
EACH WILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL GRANT SO THAT, THAT PIECE OF IT IS SEPARATE.
BUT IN TERMS OF JUST WORKING TOGETHER TO JUST BRING IN MORE PEOPLE AND GENERATE AWARENESS IN THE MARKETING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TOGETHER.
UM, SO THERE ARE FOUR COMPONENTS TO THIS.
IT'S DEFINITELY MORE DIFFICULT THAN THE GRID REWARDS.
UM, HANG ON, LET ME JUST FIND WHERE MY NOTES ARE.
I MOVED EVERYTHING OVER TO TAKE THE MINUTES.
LET ME JUST GO BACK TO MY PAGE.
CAN YOU GUYS HEAR THE NOISE COMING FROM OUTSIDE MY ROOM? NO.
SO ENERGY SMART HOMES INCORPORATES FOUR DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES.
WE, IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT, WE NEED 10 HOMEOWNERS TO SIGN ON.
AND IT CAN BE, WELL, ACTUALLY, HOMEOWNER IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD.
IT COULD BE A RENTER, IT COULD BE A LANDLORD OF A BUILDING THAT HAS UNDER A HUNDRED UNITS.
AND OF THE 10, SIX HAVE TO ACTUALLY INSTALL, UM, AN AIR PUMP OR GROUND SOURCE HEAT, OR AN HOT WATER HEATER THAT USES AIR SOURCE, HOT, UH, GROUND PUMP, HOT WATER HEATER.
AND THE OTHER PIECE IS THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
SO STEP ONE IS THAT YOU SIGN UP TO HAVE A COMPANY COME IN AND DO AN ASSESSMENT OF YOUR HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CHECK THE DRAFTS, THEY CHECK YOUR INSULATION, THEY BASICALLY CHECK THE ENVELOPE OF THE HOUSE, AND THEN THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AS TO HOW YOU CAN MAKE YOUR HOME MORE ENERGY
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EFFICIENT.AND MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT I HAVE TO CONFIRM, IS THAT THAT PART IS FREE.
YOU ONLY SPEND MONEY IF YOU MOVE FORWARD OR MAYBE THEY CHARGE A NOMINAL FEE AND THEN THAT GETS APPLIED TOWARDS WHATEVER WORK YOU DECIDE TO DO.
UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE INSTALLATION.
SO WE WOULD NEED FOUR HOME HOMEOWNER, WELL, ANYBODY WHO MOVES FORWARD.
AND THIS HAS TO HAVE THE FIRST STEP OF HAVING THEIR HOUSE ASSESSED.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN EITHER JUST DO HOME INSULATION OR OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE ENVELOPE TO MAKE YOUR HOUSE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT.
WE'LL NEED SIX PEOPLE TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS PUTTING IN A AIR, EITHER AN AIR SOURCE HEAT PUMP, WHICH IS AN ABOVE GROUND, AND THEY CAN EITHER WORK WITH DUCTS OR WITHOUT DUCTS.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT VARIATIONS, AND I, AARON AND I STILL HAVE TO LEARN A LITTLE MORE OF THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION AROUND THE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY.
SO I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS JUST YET.
BUT THE AIR SOURCE HEAT PUMP CAN EITHER BE DUCTLESS OR DUCT DID, YOU CAN DO THE GROUND, UM, HEAT SOURCE THE UNDERGROUND, WHICH IS WHAT MIKE HAD LOOKED INTO AT ONE POINT FOR HIS HOME.
AND IF YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF BEDROCK, THAT DOESN'T WORK.
UM, AND THE THIRD IS YOU CAN REPLACE YOUR HOT WATER HEATER WITH A, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M FORGETTING IF THE HOT WATER IS AN AIR SOURCE OR A GROUND, BUT EITHER, I THINK IT'S AN AIR SOURCE HOT WATER HEATER.
SO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF VARIOUS WAYS THAT WE CAN GET TO THAT SIX.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT AARON AND I, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PARTNERING WITH THE THEODORE YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE GREENBERG NATURE CENTER HAVE BOTH AGREED TO JUMP ON BOARD.
THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER PIECE OF THIS CALLED EMPOWER, WHICH LET ME READ TO YOU EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.
EMPOWER NEW YORK PROVIDES NO COST ENERGY EFFICIENCY SOLUTIONS TO INCOME ELIGIBLE NEW YORKERS.
UM, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMEONE WHO'S GETTING SNAP.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS YET OF HOW YOU QUALIFY, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST IS, IS SOMEONE WHO IS A SNAP RESIS RECIPIENT.
THEY'RE MOST LIKELY A RENTER, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THEY'RE ELIGIBLE THAT WILL BE FREE.
ANYTHING FROM, THEY WILL RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, L E D LIGHT BULBS TO, UM, REPLACING SHOWER HEADS IN THE ROOM AND IN THEIR APARTMENT.
AND THEN THEY ALSO ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE LANDLORDS TO MAKE THE ENTIRE BUILDING ENERGY EFFICIENT.
THE SMALLER UNIT, IT HAS TO BE A HUNDRED UNDER A HUNDRED UNITS.
SO THAT DOES LIMIT, WHICH IS WHY AARON REACHED OUT TO THEODORE YOUNG TO SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE REACH PARTS OF GREENBERG THAT MIGHT FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.
AND I'M HOPING ALL OF YOU WILL HELP WITH OUTREACH TO FRIENDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE GET TO THE MARKETING PIECE.
WAIT, DID YOU SAY YOU ONLY NEED 10 PEOPLE TO DO THIS? YOU NEED CORRECT.
AND OF THE 10, SIX HAVE TO INSTALL AN AIR PUMP OR A GROUND SOURCE HEAT PUMP OR A NEW HOT WATER HEATER.
IT ACTUALLY IS, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT IT, BECAUSE IT IS A BIG INVESTMENT.
IN ADDITION, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, INCENTIVES RIGHT NOW FROM BOTH NYSERDA AND CONED FOR HOMEOWNERS OR RENTERS WHO AGREED TO DO THIS.
SO THERE IT IS A GOOD TIME IN TERMS OF SAVING MONEY.
AND I WILL SAY, JUST AS AN ASIDE, WHICH I DIDN'T BRING UP BEFORE, BECAUSE CLEARLY THIS HOMEOWNER, THEY'VE ALREADY DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK.
BUT I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING THAT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER IS ACTUALLY MOVED AWAY FROM RECOMMENDING HOMEOWNERS DO SOLAR BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT YOU HAVE TO CUT DOWN.
AND BECAUSE COMMUNITY SOLAR HAS BECOME A REALLY GREAT WAY TO HARNESS SOLAR ENERGY, THAT THEY'RE ENCOURAGING HOMEOWNERS TO SIGN UP FOR COMMUNITY SOLAR AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING SOLAR PANELS ON YOUR OWN HOME.
THEY WOULD PREFER THAT YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THESE OTHER OPTIONS.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S AN INTERESTING, UH, POINT.
MR. UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT LIZ HAS SAID? HOPEFULLY IT WAS CLEAR.
WELL, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S OF THE $15,000, LIZ, WHAT'S THE CACS CUT OUT OF THAT
CAN YOU DOUBLE WHAT WE GOT? ACTUALLY, THE CUT IS THAT IF YOU DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, YOU'RE HELPING THE ENVIRONMENT AND SAVING MONEY FOR YOURSELF.
SO YOU ARE GETTING A CUT IN YOUR POCKET THAT WAY.
NO, IT'S SUPER LIZ, THANK YOU.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD'VE, WE WOULD'VE LOVED GEOTHERMAL, BUT THE ROCK, WE WERE TOLD THAT, RIGHT.
UH, IN FACT, WE, WE HAD, IT WAS SCHEDULED TO DO THE DRILLING.
WE'D SIGNED THE CONTRACTS SCHEDULED TO DO THE DRILLING, AND THE WEEK BEFORE WE SUPPOSED TO DO THE DRILLING.
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TO HAVE AN ELECTRIC LINE TAKEN DOWN SO THE DR THE GRID COULD COME IN AND, BUT THE WEEK BEFORE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THE DRILLING, WE WERE SAID THEY'D HAD A PROBLEM SOMEPLACE IN WESTCHESTER, AND THEY HAD CHANGED THEIR GUIDELINES AND THEY WEREN'T SURE WE MET IT.SO WE HAD TO ENGAGE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO SEE WHAT, UM, HE THOUGHT ABOUT IF THERE WAS DRILLING.
UH, AND, UM, AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT, IT'S, IT'S RISKY BECAUSE IT COULD SHAKE, IT COULD SHAKE THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR HOUSE, RIGHT? THERE'S ALSO, NOW THE AIR SOURCE, WHICH IS ABOVE GROUND, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THE CENTRAL AIR UNIT YOU'D HAVE SITTING ON THE OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE.
AND THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO, TO DO THAT.
UM, SO THERE ARE MORE OPTIONS.
AND THE OTHER, I FORGOT WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
UM, ANYWAY, THE POINT IS TO JUST TRY TO REMOVE FOSSIL FUELS FROM OUR HOMES.
OH, THE, THE TIMEFRAME WE'RE GOING TO BE LAUNCHING EARLY MARCH, AND THE CAMPAIGN WILL RUN UNTIL JUNE 1ST.
SO, SO YOU HAVE A RATHER SMALL WINDOW, BIGGER THAN THE GRID REWARDS, AND THERE WILL BE, UM, INFO SESSIONS AND MAYBE AT THE NATURE CENTER IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO HOST ONE IN THEIR HOME.
AND ONE OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS IS ACTUALLY DOING A TOUR OF HOPEFULLY IN PERSON, IF NOT, IT'LL BE VIRTUALLY OF HOMES THAT HAVE INSTALLED SOME OF THESE SYSTEMS. SO YOU CAN SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND, AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.
WELL, I WAS INTERESTED BECAUSE WITH THE VIDEOS, WITH I GUESS THE, UH, SESSIONS, UM, THAT ALFRED HAD ATTENDED WITH THE VIDEOS, IT DIDN'T, I WAS SURPRISED AT HOW SMALL THE FOOTPRINT WAS TO PUT IN THE, UM, GROUND SOURCE.
IT, IT, I HAD A THOUGHT YOU WOULD'VE NEEDED A BIGGER FOOTPRINT THAN YOU ACTUALLY DID.
I THINK THE TECHNOLOGIES HAVE IMPROVED A LOT OVER THE LAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW, MIKE, HOW LONG AGO DID YOU LOOK INTO IT? UH, I THINK TWO YEARS AGO.
AND, AND SUSTAINABLE, WESTCHESTER ALSO HAS, I THINK THEY'RE UP TO 14 CONTRACTORS THAT THEY HAVE VETTED TO DO THE WORK.
SO THE FIRST STEP IN ANY OF THIS IS JUST HAVING THE ASSESSMENT OF YOUR HOME.
AND THEN THEY, THEY GIVE US A LIST OF 14 CONTRACTORS WHICH GO FROM NEW PEOPLE WHO ARE NEW AND JUST FOCUSING ON, ON GREEN TECHNOLOGY LIKE DANDELION TO A LOT OF, UM, LIKE, UH, UH, ROBESON, IS THAT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE THEM? YEAH.
BUT YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF FAMILIAR NAMES THAT YOU'LL KNOW IF YOU SEE, YOU'RE LIKE, OH YEAH, I KNOW THAT THAT OIL COMPANY, THEY'RE NOW TRYING TO MOVE AWAY AND, AND 'CAUSE THEY REALIZE IF THEY DON'T ADAPT, THEY'RE GONNA START LOSING MONEY.
IT'S BEEN A VERY INTERESTING, UH, PROJECT YOU COME UP WITH.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FURTHER ON THIS? NO.
UM, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON OUR, WELL, I THINK ONE, WE CAN NOW REMOVE THE WEBPAGE FROM OUR LIST OF PROJECTS.
BECAUSE THANKS TO MIKE, WE HAVE A WEBPAGE,
AND, UH, HE PUT THIS UP IN ABOUT TWO HOURS OR THREE HOURS FROM WHEN I SENT IT TO HIM.
AND, UM, WE WILL, UM, UPDATE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE FIND OUT A LITTLE MORE HOW SQL WORKS IN THE TOWN WITH REGARD TO, UH, A FINAL E I S WE'RE GONNA UPDATE THAT THIS SPRING.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL PUT A NEW VERSION OF THE SQL GUIDE ON, ON THE WEBSITE.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE THIS WHOLE, UH, UH, APPENDIX THREE.
WE ARE GOING TO LIST THE CONTEMPLATION IS THAT TERRY, I'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT WE WOULD LIST, UM, A WHOLE BUNCH OF, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC AND NOT FOR US, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC OF ENVIRONMENTAL LINKS OF, OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE MAY BE INTERESTED IN ENVIRONMENTALLY.
UM, AND, UM, UH, TERRY'S GONNA TALK TO, UH, AARON ABOUT THAT.
AND SHARON, UH, YOU MAY HAVE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, UM, UH, TO BE ON, IN APPENDIX THREE ON, ON THE NEW, UH, WEBSITE OR ENVIRONMENTAL LINKS.
AND, UH, LIZ, YOU MAY HAVE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, UH MM-HMM.
SO ANYTHING THAT'S ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE DON'T, UM, WANT TO GET INTO ANY KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL ISSUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT, UH, YOU THINK THAT'S ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, THERE'S CERTAINLY NO REASON NOT TO HAVE IT AVAILABLE THERE FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC.
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YOU KNOW, UM, YOU PROBABLY NEED, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN JUST A LINK BECAUSE YOU TELL ONE, TELL US ABOUT WITH THE LINK, YOU KNOW, FIVE WORDS OF DESCRIPTION, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW SOMETHING.AND THEN THE, AND THEN THE LINK FOR IT.
AND SO, UM, JUST, JUST FEED THOSE TO, UH, UM, TO ME OR TERRY OR BOTH OF US, AND THEN WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COLLECT THEM AND, YOU KNOW, UH, I WANNA, DON'T WANNA OVERBURDEN, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER LUCA WITH, WITH DOING THIS, BUT WE'LL COLLECT THEM AND AT THE SAME TIME IN THE SPRING WHEN WE, UH, UH, UPDATE THE, UM, UH, UH, THE SQL GUIDE, UM, UH, WE'LL SEND THOSE AND, AND WE'LL ADD THOSE.
AND OF COURSE, AS LIFE GOES ON, WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ADD THINGS TOO.
ANYTHING ELSE? TERRY, YOU WANT TO? NO, I THINK THAT'S IT IN TERMS OF, UM, WHAT WE HAD FOR TONIGHT.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR GETTING HERE.
WE HAD ILLNESSES, TRAVEL, UH, UH, ALFRED'S CAR WAS BEING HELD UP AT THE DEALERSHIP.
I COULDN'T FIX HIS TESLA AND HE WASN'T GONNA GET IT UNTIL AT LEAST SIX 30.
HE ISN'T GETTING HIS CAR BACK.
HE DIDN'T SAY WHAT EXACTLY WAS WRONG WITH THE CAR, BUT, UH, IT JUST WAS LIKE, I I, PEOPLE WERE DROPPING OFF VERY QUICKLY TODAY, SO I FIGURED WE BETTER BE SURE WE HAD A QUORUM.
SO I THANK YOU ALL, UM, FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, AND I THANK KEN FOR JOINING US AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE HAS SOMETHING.
NO, BUT I JUST WANNA ADD THAT I WAS ABLE TO GET ON THE FOUND WEBSITE ON MY, MY OTHER DEVICE HERE.
SO I SEE THE, UH, UH, THE F V I S.
I, YEAH, I WANTED TO KNOW HOW TO SEE THE WEBSITE.
HOW DO I GET ON IT? HOW TO DO WHAT? THE WEBSITE? OH, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT GO THE TOWN SITE.
AND THEN WHERE IT SAYS, UM, BOARDS, I BELIEVE, WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS THE THING? IT'S BOARDS AND THEY GO GO TO THE TOWN WEBSITE.
THEN IT THEN LOOKS, THEN YOU LOOK UNDER BOARDS, UH, UH, BOARDS, I THINK ON THE, IN THE TOP GREEN, SHARON.
THEN, THEN YOU'LL SEE A LIST OF BOARDS IN THE, AND IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN.
I THINK IT'S THE MIDDLE COLUMN, IT HAS THE BOARDS AND C A C IS THE FIRST ONE.
CLICK ON C A C AND THERE WE WE'RE.
THE MEMBERS, EVERYONE'S NAME IS THERE.
IF I, I DIDN'T NOTICE ANY MISSPELLINGS OR ANYTHING, BUT IF THERE'S ANY MISSPELLINGS, ANYONE'S NAMES, YOU KNOW, ADD THAT TO THE LIST OF, YOU KNOW, UPDATES WE'LL DO IN THE SPRING.
GEORGE, YOU KNOW, KEN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NOT THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED OR NOT, IS THAT YOU'RE THE LIAISON.
IT CAN BE IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD IT.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T MIND BEING INCOGNITO,
I, I, I, I, I THOUGHT, HEY, YOU DON'T MIND BEING ASSOCIATED WITH US
WE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY ADD THAT WHEN WE DO THE UPDATE IN THE SPRING.
SO SOMEONE PLEASE REMIND ME BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ANYMORE.
THE MISSION STATEMENT IS THERE, THE CAC REPORTS.
IT'S VERY, YEAH, IT LOOKS GREAT.
VERY NICE TO BE, HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU SEEN IT, KEN? I HAVE.
IT'S, UH, ANYTHING ELSE PUT IN? LIZ HAS A QUESTION FOR GEORGE.
UH, NO, I JUST HAD A, A SEPARATE ARE WE DONE WITH THIS? WITH THE C A C WITH OUR AWESOME C A C WEBSITE? YES.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY 'CAUSE I VAGUE RECOLLECTION WHEN I INTERVIEWED WITH YOU, UM, I KNOW I'M NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANY CAMPAIGNING FOR ANY LOCAL POLITICIANS, BUT AT WHAT, WHAT IS THE CUTOFF? AT WHAT POINT THAT I AM ALLOWED TO, YOU CAN CAMPAIGN FOR A LOCAL POLITICIAN.
LIZ SILVERSTEIN CAN CAMPAIGN FOR A LOCAL POLITICIAN.
YOU CAN MAKE POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO A LOCAL POLITICIAN.
YOU, YOU DO NOT LOSE YOUR RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER OF THE C A C OR ANY OTHER BOARD.
THE ONLY THING YOU CANNOT DO, LIZ, IS SAY THE C C SUPPORTS A PARTICULAR, UH, OR, OR I WOULD SAY THAT I'M LIZ.
I'M LIZ SILVERSTEIN, A MEMBER OF THE CAC, AND I ENDORSED MIKE SIEGEL.
YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN ENDORSE MIKE SIEGEL, BUT NOT AS A MEMBER OF THE CAC C OKAY.
BUT YOU LOSE NO RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN.
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JUST CAN'T KIND OF PARLAY YOUR, YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS BEING ON THE CAC C TOGETHER WITH YOUR INDIVIDUAL ACTIVITY.BUT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, I, I, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S ONE MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD I MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SUPPORT A CANDIDATE.
YOU CAN GO SPEAK IN, IN, UM, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION, LIZ OF THE, UH, TOWN BOARD, YOU KNOW, LIZ SILVERSTEIN, UH, A, UM, RESIDENT THE TOWN FOR X YEARS.
YOU CAN'T SAY, YOU CERTAINLY CANNOT SAY UNLESS YOU'VE BEEN AUTHORIZED.
YOU'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CAC AUTHORIZED ON A PARTICULAR THING.
SPEAK ON THE BEHALF OF THE C A C OR, BUT, BUT, AND, AND YOU SHOULDN'T SAY YOU LIST SILVERSTEIN A MEMBER OF THE CITY.
YOU JUST SAY YOU LIST SILVER, YOU KNOW? GOT IT.
THE TOWN OF GREENVILLE, YOU'VE LIVED, YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS, AND HERE'S WHAT YOUR VIEWS ARE.
YOU CAN EVEN IF YOU WANT TO, THOUGH WE DON'T, DON'T, DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD THIS.
YOU CAN GET UP AND GO TO A TOWN BOARD MEETING AND SPEAK AGAINST THE POSITION OF THE C A C.
YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN BY BEING A MEMBER OF THE CAC C OKAY? I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE IT AT THIS POINT.
ANYONE ELSE? IN WHICH CASE, HAVE A NICE WEEKEND AND AT LEAST WE HAVE A NICE WEATHER THROUGH, THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT.