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UH, GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, WELCOME TARA

[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]

TOWN BOARD, UH, UH, WORK SESSION.

TODAY IS, UH, MARCH 1ST, AND, UM, IT'S ABOUT ALMOST FIVE O'CLOCK.

AND, UM, THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS, UM, JUST TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS, UH, THE OUTDOOR, UH, DINING FOR THE PAST, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS, UM, WE'VE HAD OUTDOOR, UH, DINING THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, AND THAT WAS DONE BY EXECUTIVE ORDER BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR AUTHORIZED IT PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC.

IT WAS NOT AUTHORIZED.

SO, UM, UH, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT USED TO THE OUTDOOR DINING, YOU KNOW, ARRANGEMENTS.

AND I SENT OUT A E-BLAST A FEW DAYS AGO, AND I THINK EVERYBODY, WELL, LIKE ONE PERSON, LIKE LOVED IT.

UM, SO THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME ISSUES.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, GARRETT DUCAIN, THE COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER OF, UH, PLANNING INDICATED THAT METRO NORTH IS GONNA BE PUTTING A MUCH NEEDED ELEVATOR AT THE HARTSDALE ON, YOU KNOW, TRAIN, YOU KNOW, TRAIN STATION, WHICH COULD CREATE SOME TRAFFIC, UH, ISSUES ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN THAT ELEVATOR GOING IN.

NO.

ANYWAY, AT ALL THE, THE ELEVATOR IS, IS, YOU KNOW, CRUCIAL.

UH, NICK RESON OF OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION OF, IN THE, IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INDICATED THAT HE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, SAFETY ISSUES.

UM, I SPOKE TO, UH, THE POLICE CHIEF, UM, UM, I SPOKE TO SOME RESTAURANT OWNERS THIS AFTERNOON.

I, I WAS ON EAST ELLI RESTAURANT OWNERS REALLY WANTED TO CONTINUE.

UM, UH, THE POLICE CHIEF, UH, GEORGE LONGWORTH SAID HE WILL, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, SPEAK WITH MS. BRECKON, YOU KNOW, SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAYS OF, UH, CONTINUING, UH, TO DO THIS WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING OR RISKING PEOPLE'S SAFETY.

GARRETT, UH, DUAYNE SAID THAT HE WOULD, UM, UH, HE'LL SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH ALL THE PARTIES, THE POLICE, UH, THE, THE RESTAURANT OWNERS.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, DID YOU TALK TO THE PARKING DISTRICT? WELL, TALK TO THE PARKING DISTRICT.

ONE OF THE RESTAURANT OWNERS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THAT HE WOULD BE, THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY, UH, THE PARKING DISTRICT FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, BE, TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE, ONE, ONE OF THE RESTAURANT OWNERS I MET WITH TODAY WAS LIKE REALLY UPSET BECAUSE HE SAID, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER RESTAURANT EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTY IS ALLOWING OUTDOOR SEATING PRACTICALLY.

AND THEY FEEL THAT IF HARTSDALE IS ONLY COMMUNITY THAT ISN'T ALLOWING IT, IT'S GOING TO CREATE A MAJOR DISADVANTAGE.

ALSO, WHEN IT WAS ON THE AVENUE TODAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TURKISH RESTAURANT THAT EXISTED ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

THEY CLOSED DOWN, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY RECENTLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY WORRIED THAT TO ME, THE RE EAST TARLEY AVENUE HAS ALWAYS HAD PROBLEMS WITH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF VACANCIES, AND IT WAS REALLY THE RESTAURANTS THAT, UH, THAT REJU REVITALIZE THE, THE, UH, THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

NOW, THE LAW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PASS WOULD APPLY TO RESTAURANTS ALL OVER THE TOWN, NOT ONLY ON EAST DALE AVENUE, SO TIM AND GARRETT.

UM, AND, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD WORK EVEN TOGETHER.

ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD, UM, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE REALLY, UM, AN EXCITING INITIATIVE WOULD BE, UH, TO, UM, INVITE RES TO SET UP A SERIES OF, UH, ALMOST LIKE FARMER'S MARKETS WHERE YOU WOULD'VE LIKE RESTAURANT, UH, RESTAURANT DAYS.

IT COULD BE AT A FARMER'S MARKET, IT COULD BE AT WHAT FIELD.

IT COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, UM, AT THE PAVILION, AT THE THEATER, YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, YOU KNOW, AT, AT YOSEMITE PARK.

AND WE COULD INVITE AREA RESTAURANTS TO SET UP A TABLE AND TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE RESTAURANT, THE FOODS THAT THEY OFFER, WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO HAVE A TABLE.

AND THEN RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BEING INTRODUCED TO THE RESTAURANTS.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE ANOTHER, JUST LIKE THE FARMER'S MARKET BROUGHT PEOPLE TOGETHER AND THE OTHER COMMUNITY, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, MADE OUT OF A COMMUNITY.

I THINK THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT WOULD BE FUN AND COULD HELP OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES SURVIVE.

WHAT DO THEY CALL WHEN THEY HAVE IT AT WOODLANDS, WHEN THEY HAVE ALL THE RESTAURANTS COME, THE FOOD, THE TASTE, THE TASTING, TASTY TASTE.

THINK IT'S NOT A TASTE OF GREENBERG, TASTE OF GREENBERG.

MAYBE WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR THEY DID LAST YEAR IN DOBBS FERRY, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT PAUL, UM, KEEPING THE, THE RESTAURANT, UH, THE SIDEWALK OPTIONS AVAILABLE, I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.

COVID IS NOT OVER.

AND SO TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW RESTAURANTS TO HAVE SEATING OUTSIDE AS WELL AS INSIDE,

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I THINK IS EXCELLENT.

I'M, I'M A FOODIE.

I EAT OUT A LOT.

I'M NOT ASHAMED TO SAY THAT I GO TO RESTAURANT, EAT OUT A LOT OF RESTAURANTS, AND I, IN THE SUMMERTIME IN PARTICULAR, I LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT OUTSIDE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DO OUTSIDE SEATING GOES FASTER NOW THAN INSIDE SEATING.

SO TO, TO ALLOW RESTAURANTS TO KEEP THAT OPTION AVAILABLE, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME MOVE ON, ON THE PART OF THE TOWN.

YEAH.

JUST BRIEFLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT PURSUANT TO THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER MM-HMM.

, WHICH MAY EXPIRE, LET'S SAY IN MARCH 16TH.

SO OUR ZONING DOESN'T REALLY PERMIT OUTDOOR DINING, SO WE'D HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT, HOW WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH THAT.

AND EVEN IF IT DID, THE FACT THAT THERE'S MAJOR CONSTRUCTION GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE TRAIN STATION, IT MAY, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT TRAFFIC PATTERNS ON EAST DALE AVENUE.

RIGHT.

PARTICULARLY NEAR DESANTE PLAZA.

AND HAVING THE OBSTRUCTIONS FROM HAVING THE TABLES IN THE STREET, UH, IS A COMPLICATION THAT, UH, OUR TRAFFIC, OUR TRAFFIC EXPERT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, HE HAS VERY SEVERE, I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST THE, SOME VERY SEVERE CONCERNS ABOUT LIMITING THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AROUND TABLES THAT MIGHT BE IN THE TRAVEL LANES.

SO IT'S JUST, I THOUGHT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALK SEATING.

I WASN'T, I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT NO, WE TOOK, WE TOOK, I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT IN THE STREET.

NO, BUT NO, WE TOOK, UH, SOME OF THE PARKING AREAS AND WE PUT, UH, CONCRETE BARRIERS.

BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S RESTAURANTS LIKE SAY CAST'S WHERE YOU COULD CONTINUE DOING IT BECAUSE IT HAS NO IMPACT.

RIGHT.

IT'S NOT THE IRISH TO THE RESTAURANTS AND EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE IF YOU ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN ELSEWHERE, BUT NOT TO THOSE RESTAURANTS.

NO, I, I I I, I UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TRAFFIC ISSUES.

THE OTHER THING IS WE COULD BASICALLY, WHAT'S THE ZONING CONSTRUC? DID WE CHANGE THE ZONING? WE DID NOT.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAD, WE DID IT BY EXECUTIVE ORDER.

IT'S DON'T, WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONING ANYWAY, OR WE HAVE TO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY'RE NOT FIGURE OUT ANOTHER, THEIR EQUIPMENT OUT WAY TEMPORARILY, JUST SO THAT WE COULD SET UP SO THEY COULD.

AND A LOT OF THE, THE PARKLETS OR STREET LETS ARE MORE OR LESS PERMANENT.

THEY DON'T TAKE THEM DOWN AND PUT THEM UP.

IT'S NOT JUST LIKE PUTTING TABLES OUT IN THE STREET.

I'M NOT SURE.

WELL, THEY MAY NOT BE HAVING THEIR VEHICLES IN FRONT OF THE RESTAURANTS.

YOU KNOW, I, WE, WE HAVE TO.

GARETH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD SOME OF THE DISCUSSION.

NO, I WAS LISTENING TO ALL THE DISCUSSION UPSTAIRS, AND I THOUGHT IT'D BE EASIER IF I JUST CAME DOWN IN THE CASE.

SMART MAN.

WE'RE GONNA YELL FOR YOU.

I WAS GONNA, I WAS GONNA GIVE YOU TWO MORE WEEKS WITH THE BEARD.

I, IT'LL BE OFF.

IS IT COMING OFF? I WANNA BRING IT A LITTLE CLOSER, BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE THAN JUST THE PAST.

I WAS QUOING YOU, BUT NOW THAT I, NOW THAT YOU'RE HERE, I REALIZE I'M GLAD THAT I DIDN'T QUOTE YOU.

.

YOUR LOOKS GOOD.

I LOVE LIKE AN ACTOR.

YEAH, YOU SHOULD DO.

I CAN'T IMAGINE WITH LOOK LIKE UNDER THE MASK NOW.

I SEE HIM ON ZOOM A LOT, AND SO I, I KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE UNDER THE MAP.

ALRIGHT.

NO, I, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING ALL THE DISCUSSION AND, UH, YES, WE DO INTEND TO MEET WITH, UH, UM, SERGEANT REON AND, AND OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE, UH, PARKLETS, IF YOU WILL, ON EAST HARSDALE AVENUE, WHICH, WHICH HAVE BEEN NICE.

BUT, UM, YES, THERE ARE CONCERNS, OF COURSE, BECAUSE OF THE M T A, UH, PROJECT, WHICH I BELIEVE THEY'RE MOBILIZING THIS THURSDAY, UM, ON THE GREENBERG SIDE OF THE, OF THE TRACK.

SO, UH, MY PLAN IS TO MEET NEXT TUESDAY INTERNALLY, UM, AND, UH, WE CAN PRESENT THE, OUR FINDINGS, UH, PERHAPS NEXT TUESDAY.

THAT'S GREAT.

UM, AND IF THERE ARE MITIGATIONS, UM, AND WE CAN MAKE SOMETHING WORK, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT I DO AGREE, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM RE-TRACKING WHAT, UH, SERGEANT REON INDICATED, HE HAS VERY SERIOUS RESERVATIONS.

UM, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

BUT, UH, IF NOT, IT'S, IT'S PURELY, UH, A SAFETY, YOU KNOW, CONCERN.

SO, KNOW IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU SAID THAT M T A IS STARTING TO MOBILIZATION.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY'RE STARTING TO WORK? WELL, NOT, NOT EXACTLY.

UH, I THINK THE WORK WILL RAMP UP, UH, DEFINITELY, UH, SOON, PERHAPS, UM, MAY, BUT MOBILIZATION TYPICALLY WILL INVOLVE GETTING, YOU KNOW, THE CONSTRUCTION FENCING IN ESTABLISHING THE AREA, UM, AND REALLY GETTING READY TO DO THE WORK.

BUT, UM, I, I DID SPEAK TO MY CONTACTED M T A TODAY, THEY INDICATED EXPECT THE REAL, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL WORK TO BEGIN, UM, A MONTH OR TWO AFTER MOBILIZATION.

SO I THINK WE ARE PROBABLY INTO MAY BEFORE THE, AND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE SAFE TO SAY, LESS THAN TWO YEARS? UM, IF WE CAN HIT 18 MONTHS, THAT'S GREAT.

OR EVEN LESS BETTER.

UM, YEAH.

YEAH.

AND, AND SOME OF IT IS ON THE DALE APP, THE GREEN AND SOME IS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST, YOU CAN PAR THAT COULD

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EQUAL PROJECT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT IT, YOU HAVE AN ELEVATOR ON EACH SIDE, SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WORKING ON THEM CONCURRENTLY, OR WILL THEY WORK ON THEM SEQUENTIALLY? BECAUSE IF THEY'RE WORKING ON THEM SEQUENTIALLY, MAYBE WE CAN AT LEAST CAPTURE PART OF THE SEASON.

THAT'S A NEGOTIATION PERHAPS WITH THEM, IF THAT IS IN THEIR SCHEDULING, IF THEY'RE DOING THEM.

UH, YEAH, I KNOW THEY'RE MOBILIZING ON THE GREENBERG SIDE, UH, STARTING THIS THURSDAY, BUT, RIGHT.

AND, AND MAYBE IT COULD BE ONCE THE PROJECT'S FULLY GOING, IF TRAFFIC PATTERNS AREN'T IMPACTED, UM, AND WE FEEL THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO NORMAL, UH, CONDITIONS, THEN PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, THE OPINION COULD CHANGE, BUT I WOULD, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE, YOU KNOW, A DECISION ON TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S, I WILL SAY IT'S A LOT OF PLANNING AND A LOT OF WORK, UH, TO GET THOSE BLOCKS IN THERE.

WE OPTED FOR THE HEAVY DUTY BLOCKS MM-HMM.

, UM, YOU KNOW, VERSUS SOMETHING WHERE THAT YOU COULD KIND OF QUICKLY PULL IN AND OUT, UM, AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE.

THERE'S NO MOMENT'S NOTICE WITH THE, UH MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, THE SUBSTANTIAL BLOCKS, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY DO GET NICKED BY, YOU KNOW, CARS.

AND, UM, IT'S VERY THANKFUL WE HAD THE HEAVY DUTY BLOCKS DOWN THERE AS PEOPLE ARE DOING PARALLEL PARKING MOVEMENTS AND THINGS.

BUT I THINK IT OPERATED RATHER SAFE IN THE PAST, BUT WE JUST WANT TO KNOW, WE REMEMBER SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT WE WOULD JUST USE FLOWER POTS AND WE SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT USING FLOWER POTS.

NO.

IN TERMS OF THE FARMER'S MARKET, IT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, JUDITH, WE'RE BEEN WORKING ON FARMER'S MARKET AT THE TOWN HALL, UM, POSSIBLY ANOTHER ONE AT CHRIST TEMPLE.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE TWO.

ARE WE, HOW WE ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THE FARMER'S MARKET ON AT DESANTE PLAZA? I GUESS SO.

NO.

DO WE HAVE LIKE AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE HARTSDALE NEIGHBORHOOD? YEAH, I'VE, UM, HEARD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR, UM, WE FIELD AND, UM, RICHARD PRESSER PARK ON CENTRAL.

SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, IS I CAN PULL, UH, JERRY BURN TOGETHER, COMMISSIONER BY TOGETHER, AND, UH, PERHAPS, UM, WORK WITH THE VENDOR AND IDENTIFY HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD BE NEEDED, AND, UH, SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, UH, ON SATURDAYS ON CENTRAL AVENUE THERE.

THAT SEEMS LIKE A POTENTIAL FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE.

RIGHT? THAT THAT'S FINE.

GREAT.

TERRIFIC.

OKAY.

SO NEXT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE INDOOR MASK POLICY GOING FORWARD.

UM, SOME EMPLOYEES THANK YOU, AND RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED WHAT THE POLICY SHOULD BE FOR, UH, THE TOWN BOARD.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SEE, ASK THE BOARD WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE ANSWER SHOULD BE.

WELL, WELL, I, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, I THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WEARING MASKS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO WEAR MASKS AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND EVERYONE SHOULD BE VERY GRACIOUS AND RESPECT THEIR, THEIR, UH, RIGHT TO DO SO.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THEN, YOU KNOW, MASKING IS GOING TO BE, IS NOT GONNA BE ENFORCED ANYWHERE ELSE.

NOT EVEN SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT A SIMILAR POLICY.

IT'S TO THE PARENTS OR THE PERSON'S DISCRETION, MR. COUNTY HANDLING AT THIS POINT.

THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE HANDLING IT.

WE, WE, UM, LIFTED OUR MASS POLICY A WEEK AGO, AND, UM, AND SOME PEOPLE STILL WEAR THEIR MASKS, ESPECIALLY IF WE GO INTO A MEETING.

UM, BUT IT IS DISCRETIONARY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE WORD WENT OUT UNIVERSALLY TO PLEASE RESPECT ANYONE WHO FEELS MOST COMFORTABLE WEARING MASK.

THERE'S NOTHING, NO REASON THAT THEY SHOULD BE, UM, MET WITH ANY KIND OF DERISION OR, OR NEGATIVITY.

UM, IT'S A PERSONAL WHAT ABOUT AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETINGS? UM, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR US, THE WHERE THE TOWN FOR THE PUBLIC.

ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, I HAD, UM, WAS OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE SENSITIVE AND NERVOUS ABOUT COVID.

UM, WHAT ABOUT HAVING LIKE A EAR, IF WE ALLOW, MAKE IT OPTIONAL? WHAT ABOUT HAVING, SAY, AN AREA THAT WOULD BE, ONE SIDE WOULD BE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WEAR A MASKS THIS WAY, ANOTHER SIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A MASK.

SO THIS WAY PEOPLE WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT CLOSE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WEARING MASKS.

THAT'S THE SAME AS WHAT THE COUNTY'S DOING WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR PUBLIC MEETINGS.

I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE COUNTY DOING WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR PUBLIC MEETINGS OUTTA CURIOSITY? SO PAUL'S POINT, WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, RIGHT NOW, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS, UM, RIGHT NOW, JUST UP UNTIL A COUPLE, A WEEK OR TWO NOW, UM, THE, THE PUBLIC, THE, THE ABILITY TO HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS REMOTELY WILL BE LIFTED FROM THE STATE.

SO WE'RE NOT GONNA

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BE ABLE TO HOLD .

OKAY.

SO YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY PUBLIC MEETINGS SINCE YOU LIFTED THE ? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEGISLATURE? I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS DONE.

THAT'S, I WAS ASKING IF ANY PUBLIC MEETINGS COME.

OKAY.

I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE COVERED BECAUSE WE'RE STILL DOING THE ZOOM, THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER, BUT THAT'S DUE TO EXPIRE AND I DOUBT IT'D BE RENEWED.

SO, UM, DO WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE POINT? WE LIFT IT.

OH, WE LIFT IT.

MM-HMM.

, SO PEOPLE JUST WALK AROUND FREELY, THEY WALK IN FREELY.

SOME PEOPLE STILL WEAR MASKS.

MM-HMM.

MM-HMM.

PERCENT.

IT'S NOT REQUIRED.

WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE DAILY CHECK-IN OR ANYTHING.

WHAT PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR OFFICES ARE WEARING REST FREE? PROBABLY 2%.

I RARELY SAY IT.

I MEAN, BUT REMEMBER, WE ARE STILL ON, UM, TWO DAYS A WEEK SCHEDULE, SO WE'RE NOT FULLY BACK.

SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CERTAIN, BUT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE LIFTED SO TOO, AND I'VE SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE WEEK IN OUR OFFICES THAT IN DAY PEOPLE ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WITHOUT WEARING A MASK OR THEY'LL TAKING THEM OFF MORE OFTEN.

AND TODAY I DIDN'T WEAR A MASK.

UM, IT WAS VERY FREEING.

BUT I, I LIKE YOUR IDEA THOUGH, FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT, IF WE ONCE WE'RE OPEN HAVING A SECTION, UM, CORDED OFF FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WEARING MASKS, THIS IS THE MASKS SIDE.

THIS IS NOT MASKS AND NOBODY CAN REALLY, IT'S, IT'S JUST SHOWING RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO PREFER THAT.

YEAH.

SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO KEEP PEOPLE ONE SEAT APART IN ONE ROW, APART, EVEN WITHOUT MASKS? OKAY.

HOW OFTEN DO YOU FILL UP? ANYWAY, THAT MAKES SENSE.

THAT'S WHY I'M, THAT'S WHY I'M, YEAH.

YEAH, BECAUSE WE RARELY FILL UP, WE RARELY FILL, I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO UNLESS SO LATE.

RIGHT? YEAH.

YOU KNOW, UNLESS IT'S, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.

SAM'S STUFF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

HEY, I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST LIFT ALL THIS UP, I THINK, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU CORNER OFF THE SECTIONS FOR THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE HAVING A MASK, HAVE IT.

NO.

LIKE EVERY TIME, YOU KNOW, I GET CONFIDENT.

THEN YOU READ, LIKE, THERE WAS SOMETHING IN ONE OF THE PAPERS, UH, TODAY THAT NICK BISON, WHO'S FORMED, WAS FOUNDER OF WESTCHESTER RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES.

HE DIED OF COVID, AND IT WAS JUST THE PAST WEEK WHO DIED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW A, IF HE WAS VACCINATED, OR B IF HE HAD COMORBIDITIES, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE PREDOMINANCE, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE HARD FACTS.

BUT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE GENERAL PERCEPTION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE AFRAID, PAUL.

WE CAN BE AFRAID, BUT YOU KNOW, WE THEN WE'LL NEVER GET BACK TO .

OH, NO, I'M SAYING SAYING.

RIGHT.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING, EVERY TIME I'M GETTING CONFIDENT, I SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, IT'S OVER.

THEN I READ ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO DIED AND THEN I GET NERVOUS AGAIN.

WE WE'RE BELOW 2% INFECTION RATE NOW, YOU KNOW? NO, I UNDERSTAND.

THE NUMBERS HAVE GONE DOWN DRAMATICALLY.

WE'RE UNDER A HUNDRED HOSPITALIZED.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IS, WELL, I ALSO, UH, HAVE TO GET A HELMET BECAUSE I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE MEDIA RIGHT NOW.

.

ALRIGHT.

EVERYBODY DON'T LOOK UP.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE LIVE IN FEAR, BUT THAT WE LIVE WITH CAUTION.

COVID IS NOT GONE.

IT HAS NOT GONE ANYWHERE.

EVERY MEDICAL, UM, UH, UH, EXPERT WHO SPEAKS FROM, WHO SPEAKS NATIONALLY, WHO EVEN SPEAKS LOCALLY SAYS WE ARE NOT SAFE.

THAT, THAT WE WE'RE JUST AT A LOW, JUST LIKE LAST YEAR, WE HIT A LOW AND THEN A, A A A VARIANT CAME ALONG AND, AND, AND IT SURGED.

THIS IS A VIRUS, JUST LIKE THE COMMON COLD IS A VIRUS.

IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

RIGHT.

AND I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION IF WE'RE GOING TO, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE IN YOUR MEETINGS WITHOUT MASKS, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE FANS THAT ARE BLOWING IN A PARTICULAR DIRECTION SO THAT, UM, WHEN THEY SPEAK THE DROPLETS ARE NOT FLOATING AROUND THE AIR.

BECAUSE THERE'LL BE OTHER PEOPLE IN HERE WITH MASKS.

I'M CERTAINLY GOING TO WEAR MY MASK EVERY DAY AS LONG AS I FEEL LIKE IT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, I, I REALLY DON'T CARE, UM, HOW MANY MANDATES COME OUT FROM, UH, THIS COUNTRY OR THE, THE UNIVERSE.

I'M GONNA WEAR A MASK UNTIL I FEEL THAT THE, THE VACCINES HAVE SUFFICIENT OR, OR THE EFFICACY OF THE VACCINES.

IT'S SUCH THAT IT WILL REDUCE MY CHANCES OF COVID,

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UM, YOU KNOW, TO A VERY, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE.

BUT I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN HERE WITHOUT MASKS, I, YOU KNOW, I I, WE, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.

WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE ALLOW IN OFFICES AT ONE TIME.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY THINK THIS THROUGH AND NOT MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE'RE TIRED OF WEARING MASKS.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE SHOULD NOT MAKE, AND, AND IF, IF THE NUMBERS START TO CREEP UP, WE KNOW RIGHT AWAY TO REACT IMMEDIATELY AND NOT SAY, NAH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE BAD.

AND EVERYONE EXPECTED OMICRON.

UM, AND EVERYONE WAS CAUTIONING PEOPLE ABOUT IT, BUT PEOPLE WERE NOT SO RESPECTFUL OF THAT.

SO IT, IT DOES PUT THOSE OF US WHO ARE MORE CAREFUL AT RISK.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK BEING RESPECTFUL IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO IS A CONSENSUS THAT WE WOULD LIFT THE, UH, THE MASK MANDATE FOR EMPLOYEES AND MAKE IT OPTIONAL AND ASK PEOPLE TO RESPECT THOSE WHO, UH, WHERE IS THAT? IT'S NOT JUST EMPLOYEES.

IT'S ANYONE COMING INTO THE BUILDING, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GONNA LIFT IT.

I'M COMFORTABLE.

I'M, I'M, I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH LIFTING THE MASK MANDATE FOR PEOPLE WHO COME INTO THE BUILDING OR EMPLOYEES.

I THINK WE NEED TO SEE HOW THIS VIRUS PLAYS ITSELF OUT THROUGHOUT THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AT LEAST.

I JUST, I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S TOO SOON.

BUT AGAIN, THE DECISION IS THE BOARD.

SO MY TAKE ON THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE VERY SERIOUS, UM, SERIOUS, UH, CONSIDERATIONS THAT I DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, HAVING AN ELDERLY PERSON AT HOME.

THE FRAIL AND VERY FRAIL CONDITION IS THAT, UH, WHAT THE C D C IS DOING IS ACTUALLY PREPARING US FOR THE FALL WHEN THERE WILL BE ANOTHER VARIANT, RIGHT? BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL DYING OF COVID, PARTICULARLY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD.

AND, UH, ARE WE, ARE WE READY TO STAY MASKED FOR THREE YEARS? RIGHT? WHICH IS REALLY WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

AND SO THEY'RE, THEY WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE A BREAK AND ADVANCE OF A POTENTIAL VARIANT THAT COMES IN THE FALL.

AND WHEN THEY HAVE TO SAY, YOU NEED TO MASK UP AGAIN.

WELL, PEOPLE ARE JUST SO TIRED OF BEING MASKED.

NOW, IDEALLY, UH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD'VE ADDRESSED THIS IN 2020 WHEN THERE WERE ONLY 15 CASES IN, IN AMERICA, RIGHT? IF YOU REMEMBER THAT THERE WERE ONLY 15 CASES AND IT WAS GONNA GO AWAY.

AND THEN MASKS BECAME A POLITICAL ISSUE, RIGHT? IF YOU WORE A MASK, RIGHT, IT MEANT YOU WERE A DEMOCRAT.

AND IF YOU DIDN'T, YOU WERE A REPUBLICAN.

AND, YOU KNOW, NEVER THE TWO SHALL MEET.

UH, AND WE JUST, WHATEVER HAPPENED, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH WARNINGS JUST WENT BY THE WAYSIDE BECAUSE IT WAS ALL POLITICS.

UH, BUT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH OVER 900,000 AMERICANS DEAD, RIGHT? UM, THEY'LL NEVER COME BACK.

UH, WE HAVE MODALITIES NOW.

WE HAVE THERAPEUTICS NOW THAT CAN HELP US.

I THINK WHAT THE C D C IS BASICALLY SAYING IS THAT WE'VE GIVEN PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE VACCINATED ENOUGH TIME TO GET VACCINATED.

IT'S FREE.

YOU CAN GET IT ANYWHERE.

AND IF YOU ARE WILLING TO GET VACCINATED, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN VACCINATED BY NOW.

AND SO, WEAR MASKS WERE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT TO BE, UH, WAS SAID TO BE THEY DON'T REALLY PROTECT YOU.

THEY PROTECT THOSE AROUND YOU, UH, WITH THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE CARE MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM THAN THEMSELVES.

UM, AND SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T WEAR MASKS.

SO WE WERE PROTECTING PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T WEARING MASKS AND PROTECTING US.

AND WE ALSO DIDN'T HAVE PROPER MASKS BECAUSE THE STOCKPILES JUST DIDN'T HAVE 'EM.

IT'S ABSURD THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE K N 90 FIVES AND N 90 FIVES, UH, TWO YEARS AGO, BUT WE DIDN'T.

BUT WE HAVE THEM NOW.

SO THOSE WHO HAVE IMMUNE DEFICIENCIES AND THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO GET MASKED, THEY DO HAVE A WAY OF PROTECTING THEMSELVES.

WHERE AN N 95 RESPIRATOR OR A K N 95, IT'S NOT A RESPIRATOR, BUT IT'S PRETTY GOOD.

IT'S ALMOST AS GOOD AS AN N 95.

AND SO YOU CAN PROTECT

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YOURSELF WHEN THE REST OF US TAKE OFF OUR MASKS AND GIVE US A BREAK UNTIL THE FALL , RIGHT? WHEN, WHEN THEY MAY COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO PUT A MASK MANDATE BACK AGAIN.

I, I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC FOR US TO CONTINUALLY HAVE A MASK MANDATE, UM, WHEN THE TRANS, WHEN THE SCIENCE JUST DOESN'T SUPPORT IT RIGHT NOW.

PARTICULARLY IN THIS REGION OF THE COUNTRY, PARTICULARLY IN WESTCHESTER, WHERE THE TRANSMISSION RATE HAS DROPPED BACK.

I WOULDN'T HAVE SAID THIS FOUR WEEKS AGO OR FIVE WEEKS AGO, BUT, UH, I THINK WE HAVE TO JUST FOLLOW SCIENCE AND, AND TO STATE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ISSUES.

NOW, I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS BECAUSE I KNOW THE SCHOOLS AROUND, THEY'RE DROPPING THE MASK MANDATE.

AND IF YOU SAY, IF YOUR CHILD WEARS A MASK GOING TO SCHOOL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REQUIRE THE MA THE CHILD CONTINUE TO WEAR THE MASK IN SCHOOL.

AND SO THAT CHILD MAY BE BRINGING HOME THE VIRUS, UH, TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE ELDERLY AND OTHER COMP, UH, OTHER PEOPLE COMPROMISED.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE IS OTHER THAN THAT.

I, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THERE IS A, A WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUALLY STAY WITH MASS MANDATES LONGER THAN WE ALREADY HAVE.

AND SO TOMORROW SEEMS TO BE A TRANSITION DAY, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT IN THE SCHOOLS, WE'RE GONNA SEE IT IN MUNICIPALITIES.

WE SEE IT IN THE CAL, WE SEE IT IN PRIVATE SECTOR.

UM, AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO AT LEAST GIVE A TRY.

WE KNOW THAT THOSE OF US WHO ARE VACCINATED AND BOOSTED, WE'RE NOT GONNA DIE FROM THE VIRUS.

I MEAN, WE MAY GET HEART PROBLEMS 20, 30 YEARS FROM NOW.

NOBODY KNOWS.

I MEAN, THE RESEARCH IS SUGGESTING THAT IT CAUSES HEART ISSUES LATER ON, BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

OR PERCENTAGE.

BUT NOT FOR EVERYBODY.

YES, NOT FOR EVERYBODY.

OF COURSE NOT.

BUT IT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S, WE DON'T KNOW.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

MY BIGGEST FEAR ARE FOR THOSE THAT ARE FIVE AND UNDER, AND NOW APPARENTLY EVEN THOSE THAT ARE FIVE TO 12, 'CAUSE APPARENTLY PFIZER DOESN'T WORK AS WELL AS WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA WORK FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA DO FOR THEM.

SO I STILL THINK WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION FOR THOSE THAT ARE WILLING TO WEAR A MASK OR WANT TO WEAR A MASK OR HAVE NO PROBLEM WEARING A MASK, UH, TO PROTECT THE YOUNGEST OF OUR POPULATION AS BEST WE CAN, UM, TO TRY TO AVOID THIS VIRUS.

AND IF THEY GET IT, YOU HAVE TO HOPE THEY GET OMICRON.

DELTA'S STILL OUT THERE.

YOU HAVE TO HOPE THEY DON'T GET DELTA.

'CAUSE FRANKLY, FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT VACCINATED, UM, FORGET ABOUT NOT BOOSTED, BUT JUST NOT VACCINATED AT ALL.

IF YOU GET DELTA, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN TWO YEARS AGO.

RIGHT.

THE POTENTIAL IS THAT YOU GO INTO A HOSPITAL, YOU MAY BE ON A RESPIRATOR.

THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT THEY'LL DO IN A HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE TWO YEARS AGO BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY HAS INCREASED AND THE KNOWLEDGE HAS INCREASED.

BUT IT'S A REALLY RISKY GAME FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT VACCINATED.

SO, BUT SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE, I'M ALMOST DONE.

BUT SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO WEAR MASKS TO PROTECT THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO GET VACCINATED? I THINK THE C D C IS TELLING US, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME FOR A BREAK FOR THOSE OF THOSE, THOSE OF US WHO ARE VACCINATED.

AND SO I DON'T THINK I COULD BE ANY CLEARER IN MY POSITION.

SO WHAT DID YOU FEEL? SO THE CONSENSUS IS, YOU KNOW, I'M NEVER SHY ABOUT STATING MY OPINION.

, THEN WE LIFTED.

WE LIFTED.

AND THOSE WHO WANTS TO WEAR THE MASK RIGHT TOMORROW.

AND WE GOTTA BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.

ANYONE WHO'S WEARING A MASK, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT VACCINATED.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE IMMUNE COMPROMISED.

IT JUST MEANS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WEARING A MASK.

RIGHT.

AND THERE SHOULD BE NO NEGATIVE CONNOTATION TAKEN FOR ANYONE WHO WEARS A MASK.

IT'S THEIR CHOICE.

AND, AND FRANKLY, I THINK WE HAVE TO CONSIDER IT TO BE HARASSMENT.

IF SOMEBODY DOES, AND IF SOMEBODY HAS AN OFFICE AND THEY INSIST ON SOMEBODY COMING, COMING INTO THEIR OFFICE TO WEAR A MASK, THAT'S UP TO THEM.

UH, BUT AS FAR AS US AS A GOVERNMENT MANDATING OUR EMPLOYEES OR THOSE COMING INTO THE BUILDING TO HAVE THAT MASK MANDATE, UH, I, I DON'T THINK WE CAN STAY IN THAT AFTER TODAY.

OKAY.

FOR THE AUDITORIUM, SHOULD WE, UH, HAVE A MASK SECTION? WOULD YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? OKAY.

JUST AS , JUST WITH THE SCIENCE, THIS IS AN AIRBORNE DISEASE.

I KNOW THAT.

RIGHT? SO HAVING A SECTION ON ONE SIDE WHERE PEOPLE ARE BREATHING

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ON THE OTHER SIDE AND SAYING, YOU, YOU COULD ALL BE OVER THERE.

LIKE AS IF THE AIR IS NOT GONNA MOVE.

UH, OR THEY COME UP TO THE PODIUM WITHOUT A MASK AND THE NEXT PERSON COMES UP WITH A MASK.

I DON'T THINK IT REALLY MAKES MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.

BUT DIDN'T THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY THAT IF YOU STAYED, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO PEOPLE MM-HMM.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE MORE THAN SIX FEET AWAY FROM PEOPLE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAFER.

SO THE THING IS, IF SOMEBODY'S OVER THERE AND SOMEBODY HAS COVID AND THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, ISN'T, YOU KNOW, ISN'T THERE LESS OF A CHANCE THAT I DON'T THINK SO.

THEY COULD GET THE, THAT THEY COULD GET.

I, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH DOING THAT.

IT, IT'S JUST THAT WHEN THEY THEN GET UP AND GO TO THE MICROPHONE WITHOUT A MASK, AND THEN THE NEXT PERSON COMES INTO THAT AIRSPACE.

RIGHT.

GETTING BUT TO BACK TO THE POINT IS, FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, THEY SHOULD CONTINUE TO WEAR A MASK.

THAT'S NO, I REALIZE THAT.

AND NOW THERE'S THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE.

WE AS A, WE AS A GOVERNMENT CANNOT GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES N 90 FIVES WITHOUT HAVING A RESPIRATE, UH, RESPIRATORY PROGRAM.

BUT WE CAN GIVE K N 95 STORE EMPLOYEES, UH, 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED RESPIRATORS UNDER OSHA OR PESH.

UM, SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT AN APPROPRIATE MASK, UH, CAN GET AN APPROPRIATE MASK AND CONTINUE TO WEAR THEM IF THEY WANT TO.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO TRY, YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE IS, IS MASKED AND THE OTHER SIDE ISN'T.

UH, AND THEN CAN PEOPLE WHO ARE, SO WHAT YOU'RE REALLY SAYING IS THERE'S ONE SIDE THAT CAN BE MASKED OR UNMASKED.

'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT MIND SITTING ON THE SIDE WITH A MASKED UNMASKED PERSON.

CORRECT.

AND THERE'D BE ANOTHER SIDE THAT WOULD BE MASKED.

RIGHT.

SO THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO SAYS THIS WAY, IT JUST MAKES PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE IF THEY'RE COMING TO A TOWN BOARD MEETING.

RIGHT.

I THINK IT'S RESPECTFUL.

RIGHT? WELL, YES.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE OR MORE PEOPLE COME IN AND SIT ON THE SIDE, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SIT ON.

WELL, YOU KNOW, SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE PREPARED.

THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT REALLY RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE HAVE FEELINGS.

I THINK, I THINK PEOPLE THAT'S RIGHT.

I THINK PEOPLE, IF WE PUT THE MESSAGING OUT, IF WE PUT SIGNAGE OUT, I THINK PEOPLE WILL ADHERE TO IT.

AND THEN WE WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE JUST REMIND THEM, CREATE THE FIT.

RIGHT.

SO LET, WE COULD TRY THAT.

I THINK.

YEAH.

LET'S, LET'S, SO THAT'S GOOD.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

SO WE GOT THAT DONE.

NOW, UH, WE, WE SHOULD DO THE SPECIAL MEETING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

LET'S VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION.

IS THAT GONNA BE AS AMENDED? I JUST, I THINK IT'S AS AMEN.

AS AS AMENDED.

DOES ANYONE HAVE THE, UH, SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA? AND IT'S POSTED.

I JUST POSTED IT.

WHAT'S THAT? THIS SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA? UH, HERE IT IS.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON YOUR TABLE.

OH, IT'S UP ON YOUR DAYS.

OH, ROB .

I, I GUESS YOU WANTED US TO GO SIT UP THERE WHEN WE WERE DOING IT.

OKAY.

DOES ANYONE ELSE NEED ONE? NO.

WELL, NO.

NO.

IT WAS ONLY THE ONE TOPIC ONE.

I WANNA BRING ONE TO PAUL.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY SOMETHING FIRST BEFORE WE SURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

UM, NOW YOU DID A LOT OF WORK ON THE MEETING AND SAY IT SECOND.

YEAH.

UM, NEXT, UH, DID THAT TAKE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, EDIE TALK ABOUT THE, DO YOU WANT HIM? YEAH.

AND DID YOU NEED ROBERTA FOR THE CAPITAL BUDGET OR NOT? YEAH, WE SHOULD GET ROBERTA.

OKAY.

WE'RE STAYING HERE.

YEAH.

UH, SO WE COULD START, UH, WAIT FOR GINA.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

SOMETIMES I FORGET TO TAKE OFF MY MASK.

MM-HMM.

, YOU TAKE OFF YOUR MASK NOW.

ME TOO.

YEAH.

I DON'T EVEN REALIZE I JUST

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HAPPENED TO FIND ONE THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, IS JUST RIGHT.

I, DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME IS COMING BY.

WHEN IS THAT? IT'S SPRING IS ON THE HORIZON.

I THINK IT'S TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.

REALLY? USUALLY AROUND THE 21ST.

21ST 23RD.

OKAY.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

MARCH 13TH.

THAT SOON.

REALLY? YEAH.

NEXT WEEK.

WOOHOO.

YEAH.

THERE IT IS.

MM-HMM.

.

I LOOKED OUTSIDE AND I SAID, WOW.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE SPRING.

AND THEN I WENT OUTSIDE AND I WENT TO MY CAR WITHOUT MY COAT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SHALL WE? ALRIGHT.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU BOTH YOUR MINUTES.

THIS IS, WHERE ARE WE ON THE AGENDA? WE DON'T, YEAH, THIS IS, UH, THE PARADISE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, PARADISE THAT A YEAR AGO, THERE'S RESIDENTS OF PARADISE, UH, DRIVE AND THE EDGEMONT SECTION OF, UH, GREENBURG.

THEY'RE UPSET BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO, UH, LIVE IN APARTMENTS OFF UNDERHILL ROAD PARK ON THEIR STREET.

AND, UH, THEY'VE BEEN, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR, FOR YEARS.

UM, AND IS NICK REON AVAILABLE IF THIS IS A PARKING ISSUE? IT, IT, IT, YOU NEED TO SIT CLOSER TO THE MIC OR BRING THE MIC CLOSER TO YOU? EITHER ONE.

IT'S A BIG ISSUE.

IT'S, UM, THEY'RE CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON.

DO YOU WANNA FINISH OR YOU WANT ME TO? I, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, SO WE, WE OWNED PART OF THE PARKING LOT IN THE APARTMENTS.

RIGHT.

AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SELLING THEM THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, LOTS.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

IT'S BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH.

SO WE BASICALLY, UM, PASSED A RESOLUTION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO LIMITING SOME OF THE PARKING ON PARADISE.

BUT THEN, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY PUT UP SIGNS, BUT THEY PUT UP TOO MANY SIGNS.

SO NOW PEOPLE ARE PARKING AGAIN.

SO PEOPLE ARE SORT OF UPSET, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE PARKING SPOTS, IT'D BE A RIGHT TO PARK.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE NO PLACE TO, TO GO.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF WONDERING, UM, IF EDIE USUALLY FIGURES OUT ANSWERS TO ALL THE MAJOR PROBLEMS. SO, SO I'M JUST GONNA JUMP IN.

I, I PROMISE I WON'T QUOTE MY DAY JOB.

FOR SOME OF YOU THAT WON'T.

SO THIS LOOKS LIKE PACMAN .

I WAS THINKING I WAS BACKING THE SAME SORRY.

FIVE MINUTES.

FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

HERE'S CENTRAL AVENUE.

YEAH.

AND HERE'S THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

JANELLE, CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THAT , THAT CAD DRAWING TO NOW GO GET COFFEE.

RIGHT.

, HERE'S MY CAD DRAWING.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO HERE'S THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS.

AND HERE'S THE GARAGES, RIGHT, FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND THEY'RE PARKING OVER HERE.

PART OF THE ISSUE, NOT TO SPEAK FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY'RE PARKING IN SUCH A WAY WHERE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN'T GET THEIR EMERGENCY VEHICLES THROUGH.

NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE CAN'T SEEM TO FIND PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST PARKING WHEREVER THEY WANT TO PARK.

SO WE OWN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEY WANT TO BUY IT, OR THEY WANT TO LEASE IT.

THEY BEING THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

YES.

I'M SORRY.

UM, THEY EITHER WANNA BUY IT OR THEY WANNA LEASE IT, OR THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT DO TO IT, BUT THEY WANT IT.

RIGHT.

SO, UM, IT'S GONE BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.

YEARS, YEARS.

YES.

I'M SHAKING MY HEAD YES.

SO THIS WAS THIS WHERE THE ROCK, THERE WERE ROCKS.

WE PUT THE ROCKS THERE.

YES.

CORRECT.

KNOW HE KNEW THE ROCKS BECAUSE IT WAS CAUSING TOO MUCH OF A PROBLEM.

YES.

YES.

OKAY.

SO THE EMAILS HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I THINK I, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY THE GOLF COURSE.

UH, A DIFFERENT, I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION.

IS IT? I THINK THAT WAS JACKSON AVENUE, THE ROCK.

THERE WAS A ROCK HERE.

THERE WAS A ROCK THERE.

ISN'T THERE A ROCK? WE MOVED THE ROCKS BECAUSE TO GIVE THEM MORE PARKING, IT WAS A, IT'S BEEN A MESS FOR YEARS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND CHIEF MCINERNEY GOT INVOLVED IN IT.

MM-HMM.

AND THEN IT OTHERS WHERE THE DELIVERY TRUCKS COULDN'T PARK BECAUSE OF THE ROCK.

BECAUSE OF THE ROCKS.

.

.

YEAH.

THERE'S A DIFFERENT ROCK THERE.

OKAY.

DIFFERENT ROCK.

THERE WAS DIFFERENT ROCKS.

ROCK THE ROCKS, NEVERTHELESS.

ALRIGHT, SO CHIEF MCINERNEY GOT INVOLVED AND THEN I GOT INVOLVED AND THEN 'CAUSE YOU GUYS WERE INVOLVED, RIGHT? AND THEN THE LAST CORRESPONDENCE THAT I HAD WITH THEM WAS COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY OR TO LEASE THE PROPERTY.

WHATEVER YOU THINK THAT YOUR, UH, COMPLEX WANTS TO DO.

I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK.

AND UM, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE PUTTING A VALUE ON THAT TO AT

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THIS POINT I WILL IF I, IF DIRECTED NOT A PROBLEM.

UM, BUT I, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT WE SHOULD BE NEGOTIATING AGAINST OURSELVES.

IT'S AN INTEREST FROM A TAXPAYER RIGHT.

FOR OUR PROPERTY.

AND HOW DO WE SELL IT WITHOUT DOING AN AUCTION? WELL THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.

AND WE CAN DO THAT.

WE'RE A TOWN, SO WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

THERE ISN'T ANY, I'D BE SHOCKED IF THERE WAS ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED IN BUYING THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

BUT HOW DOES CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP CHANGE THE PROPERTY? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T USE OUR PROPERTY THE WAY THAT THEY WANNA USE OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S OUR PROPERTY.

AH, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LONG TERM LEASE.

UM, MAYBE IN PERPETUITY.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, THAT'S AN OPTION.

PURCHASE IS AN OPTION.

UM, BUT HOLD ON.

80.

BUT IF THEY LEASE IT, WILL THEY STILL BE ABLE TO, THEY STILL WILL BE RESTRICTED TO DO WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH IT BECAUSE WE STILL OWN IT.

RIGHT.

WE WOULD PUT THAT IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT THEY CAN USE IT FOR A RESTRICTED PURPOSE.

OKAY.

THAT TYPE OF THING WE CAN DO.

WHEN YOU WRITE A LEASE, YOU CAN WRITE WHATEVER YOU WANT IN IT.

BUT ISN'T IT, ISN'T IT HOW THEY'RE PARKING AROUND THE CRESCENT THAT'S PREVENTING EMERGENCY VEHICLES FROM DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO? HOW DOES THAT CHANGE? 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA WIDEN THE ROAD, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT GONNA, WHAT, WHAT CAN THEY DO TO ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM IF THEY OWN THAT PROPERTY? UM, AND I'M, UH, SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT OUTTA SCHOOL RIGHT NOW MM-HMM.

, BECAUSE THIS IS A BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND ENGINEERING ISSUE MM-HMM.

, UM, THEY CAN CHANGE THE STRUCTURE.

'CAUSE I'VE PLAYED AROUND WITH THAT IN ON A REAL MAP IN G I S, UM, THEY CAN CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF THE PARKING SPACES MM-HMM.

TO GET MORE SPACES.

BUT NOW IF WE DON'T OWN IT, HOW DO OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES GO OVER IT? WELL, WE CAN HAVE , THEY STILL COULD, THEY STILL COULD BE PARKING EXCELLENT.

CORRECT.

INCORRECTLY, RIGHT? UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO, UM, WELL, IF WE WANTED TO CONTINUE THAT, WE WOULD PUT AN EASEMENT AND PERPETUITY IN THE LEASE OR IN THE DEEP.

ALRIGHT.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS HASN'T BEEN FLUSHED OUT ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY BE COMING BEFORE US AT A WORK SESSION BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, NICK REON INVOLVED IN THIS.

WE NEED TO, OBVIOUSLY YOU, UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE SOME LEGAL GUIDANCE AS TO, YOU KNOW, CAN WE JUST SELL A PROPERTY TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE MOST BENEFIT FROM IT? YOU KNOW, AT AN AUCTION, WHICH THIS CAME UP YEARS AGO, IF WE DID AN AUCTION, IT COULD BE ONE OF THESE PARKING, PARKING, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU CALL IT? COMPANIES WOULD BUY THAT, PUT METERS IN THERE AND CHARGE EVERYBODY FOR PARKING.

RIGHT? SO, YEAH.

YEAH, YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT BID HIRED BECAUSE THEN OBVIOUSLY THE NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE THIS WORK AS IT IS.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL THAT WE, WE DON'T FALL INTO A TRAP OF, OF, OF SELLING, SELLING A PROPERTY TO A PARTICULAR INTEREST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, GOVERNMENT'S GET IN A LOT OF TROUBLE FOR DOING THAT.

NOW.

THEIR TICKETING HAS NOT WORKED TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM PARKING IN THIS PROTECTED LANE IN THIS PRIVATE.

I, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT, BUT I CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU.

ALRIGHT.

IT'S POLICE QUESTIONS.

I MEAN THAT NO, THAT MAKES SENSE.

SEE IF IT WERE DONE FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY OVER A, A A PERIOD OF TIME, IT MIGHT DISCOURAGE.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING UP SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS.

RIGHT? CHIEF, DO YOU KNOW IF NICK RESON, HE'D EVEN KNOW RIGHT NOW YOU'RE BRINGING UP SOME, DO YOU KNOW IF NICK ISS ON DUTY TONIGHT? I'M SORRY? DO YOU KNOW IF NICK RESON IS ON DUTY TONIGHT? I DON'T BELIEVE YET.

TODAY WE IT.

YEAH.

WE, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PARADISE.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT PARADISE DRIVE AND THE YES.

I'M, CAN YOU COME UP ? WRONG ANSWER.

, YOU CAN SAY I'M THE NEW GUY.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

.

I THINK IN SHORT, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO PARKING EXACTLY.

IS THE ISSUE.

AND, UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT YOU'RE GONNA ARRIVE AT A CONSENSUS OF WHAT EVERYONE, THE MAJORITY.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY CHIEF, CAN YOU JUST MOVE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? ACCORDING TO NICK'S AND OUR CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON, HE SAID IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A BE A CONSENSUS TO GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITH THE PARKING.

LIKE SOMEONE IS NOT GONNA BE HAPPY.

UH, ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA ARE NOT GONNA BE HAPPY WHICHEVER WAY IT'S HANDLED.

AND HE, HE SAYS THEY ARRIVED AT WHERE THEY ARE AS BEING THE BEST SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.

SO WHERE WE ARE NOW IS THE BEST, IS THE BEST SOLUTION TO, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE TOWN BOARD WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW? BUT, BUT, BUT BEFORE YOU DO IS THERE WAS A MENTION THAT WE, WE VOTED ON PUTTING SIGNS UP AND THEY WENT TOO FAR.

THE SIGNS WERE NOT PUT

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UP ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU VOTED ON.

OKAY.

AND SO IT ENDED UP CAUSING TO ALMOST BECOME A ONE WAY STREET THAT'S PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.

HAS THAT BEEN FIXED? IT'S SINCE BEEN CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, WHAT, IS THERE LIKE ANY, UH, RETAIL SPACE WHERE A LANDLORD MIGHT BE WILLING TO RENT SPACE? I THINK THAT'S HAPPENING ALREADY.

I THINK THERE ARE ARRA ARRANGEMENTS BETWEEN SOME PEOPLE AND THE COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE, UH, LEASING OR RENTING SPACES TO CREATE OFF STREET PARKING.

MM-HMM.

NOT, UH, NOT COMMERCIAL.

THIS IS, I'M TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL SPACES.

THIS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL.

THERE IS COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT'S BEING UTILIZED ACCORDING TO NICK.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE MAYBE THAT'S REALLY THE ANSWER IS, UH, SAYING IF MAYBE THE TE IF, YOU KNOW, YOUR OFFICE COULD REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THERE'S ONLY LIKE ONE OR TWO.

AND THEN WE COULD SAY, LISTEN, YOU CAN'T PARK IN PARADISE, BUT YOU COULD GO ACROSS THE STREET.

THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN APARTMENTS.

AND THEN THE MANAGING AGENTS WOULD HAVE TO SAY TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, THIS IS BASICALLY THE DEAL.

YOU COULD PARK WHERE WE ARE OR YOU COULD PARK, YOU KNOW, AT THIS PLACE.

AND YOU, THE OTHER ISSUE THAT YOU NEED TO CONSIDER AS WELL, UM, THIS IS NOT JUST FOR THIS PARCEL, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ALL OVER TOWN, IS THAT WE OWN PROPERTIES LIKE THIS, LARGER PROPERTIES, SMALLER PROPERTIES, AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, IF SOMEBODY WERE TO GET HURT ON THIS PROPERTY, THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

I DON'T, I I KNOW, I'M SURE.

WELL, THE ISSUE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD WE DO TO SAY TO, UH, THE ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA BE TAKING SOME ACTIONS, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT THE PROPERTY, MAKE AN OFFER.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE, IF WE DO NOTHING, THEY'RE NOT, THERE'S NO INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO DO ANYTHING.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE, LOOKING AT IT FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE ASSESSOR'S POINT OF VIEW, UM, EXACTLY THAT PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING AND PROPOSED TO US WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN TO THAT PARCEL.

RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST SITTING THERE AND RIGHT NOW IT'S BEEN VERBAL COMMUNICATION.

THE LAWYER IS THAT WAS THAT HEEL HEMEL PHONE.

ER, SO SHOULD I WRITE TO HIM AND JUST SAY, TELL HIM THAT, YOU KNOW, WELL, I I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO, UM, ASK HIM TO PUT A PROPOSAL TOGETHER TO THE TOWN BOARD.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

YOU NEED TO WRITE IT IN A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T PUT US IN LEGAL JEOPARDY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

GREAT.

BECAUSE BEYOND, BEYOND BUYING OR SELLING IT, I DON'T SEE THAT WE HAVE MUCH OF A ROLE IN TELLING PEOPLE WHERE TO PARK AS, AS THE TOWN VERSUS PRIVATE AND INDUSTRY.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

IT'S JUST EITHER YOU WANT IT BUY IT PRIVATE COMPANY.

RIGHT.

EITHER YOU BUY IT AND IT'S YOURS OR IT'S OURS AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH IT.

.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

BUT WE CAN'T THEN, LIKE YOU WERE SUGGESTING EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WELL MAYBE WE TELL THEM TO GO ACROSS THE STREET AND ALL THAT I THINK IS TOO MUCH FOR US TO BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

I ALSO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LAST YEAR OR A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, UH, WHEN WE WENT OUT AND TOOK PICTURES, PEOPLE WERE PUTTING UP UNAUTHORIZED SIGNS.

YES.

RIGHT.

LIKE TO TOW WAY, ZONE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO CERTAIN PEOPLE KNEW TO IGNORE IT BECAUSE, BUT OTHERS THAT MADE IT LOOK LIKE A LEGITIMATE TOW WAY SIGN ON OUR PROPERTY.

RIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED SITUATION OVER THERE.

BUT IF, IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW, IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE.

THAT'S, THAT WAS NICK'S ASSESSMENT OF IT.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT SO SURE THEY'RE PRETTY ON TOP OF IT.

RIGHT.

I, I, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD HANDLE AS TO WHAT THAT IS NOW WITH THE NEW SIGNS AS TO WHAT IS THE, THE BEST WE CAN DO.

UM, SO IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR US TO GET A, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FROM NICK AS TO WHAT IS IT THAT IS THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO UNLESS THERE'S SOME FURTHER ACTION.

MM.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO NEXT WE HAVE THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

JUST THANKS.

YEAH.

BUT YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE COPIES OF MY DRAWING ? YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

AFTER THIS IS THE LATEST, GREATEST.

IS THAT THIS? WELL, IT'S, THE NAMES CHANGED THE COMMUNITY.

UM, OH, OKAY.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

SO, SO THESE ARE BACK TO THE, OKAY.

SO THESE ARE DIFFERENT.

SO THE HORIZONTAL STAPLE WITH THE STREAK

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FROM THE, THE PRINTER IS THE NEW ONE.

YES.

THE STREAK IS THE LATEST.

ALRIGHT.

COULD I JUST SUGGEST IN THE FUTURE THAT WE PUT DATES MM-HMM.

ON REVISIONS.

OH, SOMEONE LEFT THEIR PHONE HERE.

THAT'S ME.

NO, THAT ROBERTA, IS THIS COPY GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR CO? YES.

WELL, THIS IS A DRAFT.

THIS IS A DRAFT THAT I'M LOOKING, IT'S STILL AVAILABLE.

IT'S NOT FINALIZED YET.

OKAY.

BECAUSE UNDOUBTEDLY, UM, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE MEETING AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE THIS.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING THEY, THIS HAS BEEN POSTED FOR A COUPLE WEEKS.

RIGHT.

OH, OKAY.

WE, WE CHANGED IT, BEEN POSTED AND, AND I GAVE COPIES TO YOUR OFFICE TOO.

OKAY.

OF THE TENTATIVE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND WHAT YOU GAVE TO THE OFFICE.

SO IT WAS BASED ON THE PUBLIC PREPARED.

SO FAR THE ONLY CHANGE FOR THE REQUEST IS CHANGING THE NAME.

MM-HMM.

FROM T D Y C C TO COM, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES.

OKAY.

SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ALSO SINCE WE MENTIONED THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES MM-HMM.

, UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT $60,000, BUT THAT WASN'T GONNA BE PUT IN THEIR BUDGET.

THAT WAS GONNA BE TAKEN TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IS THAT YEAH.

WELL PAUL SAID HE WAS GONNA TAKE IT OUT OF HIS, REMEMBER THE $60,000 THAT WE FOR THE PART-TIME? YES.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE OPERATING BUDGET.

THAT'S THE OPERATING.

THIS IS CAPITAL.

OH, THIS IS CAPITAL.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY STILL GOT THEIR MONEY.

UM, AND THEN THERE WAS, THERE WAS THE 36,000 FOR THE VEHICLE.

I, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE ASKED AROUND AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY VEHICLE THAT CAN BE USED.

YEP.

THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY VEHICLE THAT SPARE VEHICLE, OLD VEHICLES THAT COULD BE USED.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE, THE TIME PERIOD BETWEEN THE ORDERING OF THE VEHICLE AND THE VEHICLE COMING IS SO ATTENUATED THAT WE NEED TO ORDER IT MONTHS IN ADVANCE IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE HERE NEXT YEAR.

SO, UM, ALAN DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT? I PER TO THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU THE, UM, SHARED SERVICES PORTAL MM-HMM.

AND MUTUAL AID.

AND I GOT MYSELF ON IT AND I WAS PLANNING ON OPENING IT UP TO SHOW EVERYBODY THIS WEEKEND, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE I NEED TO HAVE, UM, FROM DEEPAK AT ANOTHER, UM, YOU SAW THAT EMAIL FROM ANNA GERALDO GOMEZ SHE SENT TO YOU ABOUT THE, UM, SHARED SERVICES.

OKAY.

WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

I CAN'T SHOW IT TO YOU 'CAUSE I CAN'T ACCESS IT, BUT I DID LOOK ON IT WITH, LOOK AT IT WITH ANNA AND THERE ARE VEHICLES ON IT.

25 35, UM MM-HMM.

, I SPOKE TO TERRANCE MM-HMM.

.

AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AN SS U V MM-HMM.

.

SO THERE ARE POTENTIAL SUVS THAT HAVE BEEN USED OR BEING RESOLD.

HMM.

I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT IN DETAIL, BUT WHICH IS WHY I WAS TRYING TO GET ON ON IT OVER THE WEEKEND.

THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO PURCHASE AT A REDUCED COST.

THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE.

THERE WERE A WHOLE BUNCH.

UM, BUT AS I SAID, I DIDN'T LOOK CLOSELY BECAUSE I HAD PLANNED TO LOOK MORE CLOSELY AND BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU IS A USED YOURSELF.

YEAH.

I THINK IT'S, IT'S THROUGH, SO THE, THE NEW YORK STATE DEVELOPED THE SHARED SERVICES, UM, THROUGH O G S INITIATIVE.

RIGHT.

AND UM, AND WHAT THEY GAVE THE COUNTY A GRANT TO DEVELOP A WEBSITE SO THAT WE COULD INPUT ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES COULD INPUT.

PAUL, I THINK YOU WERE THERE A FEW YEARS AGO.

YEAH, I REMEMBER WHEN THEY DID A TRAINING AND THEY HAD FURTHER TRAINING.

UM, SO, UM, PETE HAS ACCESS TO IT, DEEPAK HAS ACCESS TO IT AND HAS ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND YOU CAN PLUG IN, UM, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT.

AND I PUT VEHICLES, SUVS, WHATEVER I PUT REMEMBER.

AND THERE WERE, UH, SEVERAL, UM, DIFFERENT PRICE RANGES AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, UM, METRICS ARE, IF THEY HAVE MILEAGE, HOW MUCH MILEAGE MM-HMM.

, THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE LIKE QUICKER.

AND I THINK THEY'RE, YEAH.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE, THEY'RE ON THIS SITE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET TO REDUCE IMMEDIATELY.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THERE'S MONIES FOR IT THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY DRAW UPON TO PUT IN THAT, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THESE EXCESSIVE PRICES FOR NEW VEHICLES EITHER.

YEAH.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

MM-HMM.

.

SO WE COULD MAYBE, MAYBE WE COULD ASK, UH, BRIAN OR RICH IF THEY COULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT OR, UH, YOU YEAH, THEY HAVE TO GET ACCESS AND YOU KNOW, I, I GAVE ANNA UM, YOUR EMAIL AND SHE DID WRITE A NOTE.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, IT COULD HAVE GOTTEN BURIED.

IT WAS FRIDAY, IT WAS LATE.

OH,

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SO LOT GOING ON .

RIGHT, EXACTLY.

SO, UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, I THINK I KNOW THAT DEEPAK HAS ACCESS, NOW I HAVE ACCESS IF I CAN GET THAT OTHER CODE UNLESS I'M DOING SOMETHING WRONG.

AND, UM, AND PETE DOES TOO, AS PURCHASING.

SO, OKAY.

SO THAT BEING SAID, WORK WITH PETE TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING.

WELL ACTUALLY, TERRANCE SHOULD PROBABLY WORK WITH PETE TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD FOR THEM.

AND THEN ONCE THEY HAVE THAT AMOUNT MM-HMM.

THEN ADD THAT INTO HERE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SHARED SERVICES PORTAL.

YES.

NEW YORK, NEW YORK STATE SHARED SERVICES PORTAL.

UH, NO, NO, IT'S, IT'S, IS IT NOT NEW YORK STATE OR IT'S WESTCHESTER COUNTY? WESTCHESTER COUNTY MADE THE PORTAL WITH A GRANT FROM NEW YORK STATE.

JUST YOUR PARENTS SHARED.

UM, AND I'LL GIVE YOU, YOU SURE WHEN YOU SAY PETE ALREADY HAS ACCESS.

YEAH, HE WAS ON THE LIST.

WE SWITCHED PHONES AND THEN SEND IT OVER TO, TO RICH OVER HERE.

ANNA, YOU SAID HER NAME WAS ELLEN.

HER NAME IS ANNA.

A, A HERALDO GOMEZ.

WHAT'S DOING, SHE'S WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT AND SHE'LL COME IN HERE AND SHOW US HOW TO USE IT AND GIVE US A TRAINING OR GIVE YOU A TRAINING.

OKAY.

LET'S TRY IT AGAIN.

I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND IT.

A N N OH ANNA VAL.

IT'S ALDO GOMEZ.

ANNA AEH TWO AT WESTCHESTER COUNTY NEW YORK.GOV.

NO, I'M TRYING TO FIND THE EMAIL.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

GOMEZ.

AND IT'S SEARCH IF YOU GOMEZ, BECAUSE I'M PUTTING IN ANNA GOMEZ.

HERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT.

OH, 'CAUSE IT'S ONE N, RIGHT? I WAS PUTTING IN TWO AND IT'S WESTCHESTER SHARES PORTAL.

OKAY.

ALL.

SO MAYBE YOU SHARE THAT TO, TO TERENCE CAN, I'LL FORWARD IT RIGHT NOW.

ST.

RICH ACTUALLY.

BUT THEY WON'T BE ABLE, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH PETE , THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH PETE TO GET ACCESS BECAUSE PETE'S ON THE LIST AND I HAD HER PUT ME, I WAS PART OF THE TRAINING A FEW YEARS AGO, HELPING OUT THE LOGISTICS RATHER THAN, IT'S CALLED WESTCHESTER SHARES.

YEAH.

AND, UM, SHARES PORTAL.

IT'S WEST TEST WESTCHESTER SHARES.COM.

NO INTERNET.

WHY NOT CONNECT? WELL, JUST TO, JUST TO STATE, THE REASON THIS IS SO IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY, THEY HAD ANOTHER VEHICLE BREAKDOWN.

UM, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VEHICLES TO TRANSPORT, UH, FIVE KIDS AND, AND, AND TWO ADULTS.

THEY, THEY ONLY HAVE ENOUGH, THEY ONLY HAVE VEHICLES THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE TWO KIDS IN THE BACK AND TWO ADULTS IN THE FRONT.

AND SO THEY'RE REALLY BEING STRETCHED THIN IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTING CHILDREN AND TRANSPORTING FOOD FOR SENIORS.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

AND THIS DRIVER ROBERTA.

YEAH.

BUT I WANT THEM TO WORK TOGETHER, RIGHT, ROBERTA? YES.

UH, IF WE ADDED LIKE A, A LINE IN THE BUDGET FOR VEHICLE PURCHASES AND WE DON'T SPEND IT ALL THIS YEAR, WE COULD ALWAYS SPEND IT NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

SO, SO THE THING IS, JUST SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG THE CAPITAL BUDGET, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THE ANSWERS BEFORE NEXT WEDNESDAY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, ELLEN'S SUGGESTION.

BUT IF WE DON'T GET THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING ALL FIRMED UP, IF YOU ADDED, YOU KNOW, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THEN IT TURNS OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET IT CHEAPER, UH, WE'LL STILL HAVE THE MONEY LEFT OVER AND WE COULD USE IT A YEAR LATER FOR ANOTHER TRANSPORTATION.

YOU KNOW, JUST PUT IT IN AS TRANSPORTATION AND THIS WAY, THIS WAY BASICALLY WE CAN MOVE THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

'CAUSE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE ROLE ASKING BASICALLY TO GO FOR BID AND THEY WANT TO MOVE, MOVE EVERYTHING WANT.

SO THEN YOU WANNA PUT 36,000 IN? YEAH, I WOULD PUT, I WOULD PUT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET IT CHEAPER.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THIS IS THE,

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YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WORTH SAYING THIS IS THE WEBSITE, I JUST CAN'T GET ACCESS TO IT.

YEAH.

'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE CORRECT, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT RECOGNIZING MY PASSWORD.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST BECAUSE THAT, SO I GUESS, AND ALSO WE DON'T KNOW WITH THE HIGH COST OF ALL THE VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING GOING UP, IT MAY BE THAT WE NEED SOME OF THE EXTRA MONEY ANYWAY.

SO AM I PUTTING IN 36,000? YEAH, I, I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT.

I THINK SO.

OKAY.

SO BUT THAT'S 36,000 TODAY.

BUT WHAT ABOUT, BUT THAT WAS WHAT THEY LOOKED AT LAST YEAR AS THE COST OF THE VEHICLE.

NOW WITH THE PRICES, DO WE NOT WANT TO GIVE SOME, GIVE SOME EXTRA IN CASE? WELL, WE'RE HOPING IT'LL BE LESS THAN THAT.

IN GENERAL, I'M THINKING THE 36,000 WASN'T FROM LAST YEAR.

IT WAS FROM THIS YEAR BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE SUPPLY CHAIN STARTED GOING OUTTA WHACK.

OH NO, I THINK THAT THEY CAME UP WITH A DOLLAR AFTER.

THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY POINT.

BEFORE THEY STARTED GOING OUTTA WHACK.

SO I'M JUST THINKING, ARE, ARE WE, WE'RE NOT SHOOTING OURSELF IN THE FOOT BY PUTTING A LOW AMOUNT ON THERE, AND THEN WOULD THEY COME BACK AND BECAUSE OF HOW EVERYTHING IS NOW THAT IT MAY BE MUCH MORE MONEY.

WELL, IF IT TURNS OUT IT'S WAY TOO MUCH, THEN WE MAY DECIDE.

I MEAN, I, WHEN I WAS THINKING, I WAS THINKING 40 AND I WAS JUST AS A, AS A FLAT.

THAT'S OKAY.

WITH 40, I WAS THINKING 40.

IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE OR BREAK THE TOWN.

SO 40, I WAS THINKING 40 ONLY JUST, JUST IN CASE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ALSO SPOKE ABOUT PUTTING ADDITIONAL MONEY IN FOR, UH, ROAD WORK IN CASE WE HAVE TO DO, UM, WORK ON A, UH, A PRIVATE ROAD.

AND IT'S UNREALISTIC TO EXPECT THE, UH, RESIDENTS TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY THAT IT WOULD COST IN THE FIRST YEAR OR SECOND YEAR OR THIRD YEAR.

SO WE PROBABLY HAVE TO UPFRONT THE MONEY.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK WE SPOKE ABOUT 500,000.

RIGHT.

AND IF WE DON'T SPEND IT, WE COULD, THE LINE SHOULD BE FOR, UH, ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THIS WAY THEY COULD USE IT FOR RIGHT.

OTHER THINGS.

RIGHT.

SO ROAD RE ON ROAD RESURFACING LINE.

BUT IT'S, BUT A SEPARATE, AN ADDITION.

SEPARATE LINE.

A SEPARATE LINE.

OKAY.

500,000, WHAT DO WE WANT TO CALL IT? ROAD WHAT? JUNIPER ROAD IMPROVEMENT.

OKAY.

OR ROADWAY UPGRADE.

JUST SAY, UH, ROAD.

IT'S JUST THE ROAD BUDGET.

THEN THE, THE 2 MILLION SHOULD GO TWO TO 2.5.

OH IT SAYS ROAD RESURFACING.

SO HE'S SAYING TO PUT IN A SEPARATE LINE THAT SAYS ROAD IMPROVEMENTS 500.

IT MAY NOT SPEND THAT.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

WHATEVER.

WE'LL SEE.

BUT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE REPAVING ALSO IF WE DON'T USE IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO PETROL, OKAY.

UH, ARE WE GETTING A LITTLE TOO, YOU KNOW, IS THE BUDGET GETTING A LITTLE TOO EXCESSIVE IN TERMS OF YOUR OPINION FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT? I ALWAYS SAY IT'S TOO MUCH THOUGH.

RIGHT? YOU ASKING, YOU'RE ASKING THE CONTROLLER.

YOU'RE ASKING ROBERTA.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

, THIS IS LIKE, I WOULD'VE BEEN A GOOD, GOOD ATTORNEY IF I PRACTICED.

I COULD HAVE BEEN GOOD WITH LEADING QUESTIONS.

RIGHT.

, WILL THERE BE LESS OF A CHANCE OF A TEXT CUT IF WE HEAR THIS? THAT'S THE QUESTION.

I'M NOT EVEN GONNA ANSWER THAT.

.

WELL, NO, THAT'S, LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON.

.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE NEXT THING IS, ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING ELSE? NO.

SO THEN WE'RE GOOD WITH THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

WE'RE GOOD WITH THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

OKAY, THEN.

GOOD.

SO THANKS ROBERTA.

BE ABLE TO MOVE.

I SENT HIM THE EMAIL AND PUT A DATE ON THE, EXCUSE ME.

PUT A DATE ON THE NEXT REVISION.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

AND YOU ONLY HAVE TO WEAR THE MASK UNTIL, UH, UNTIL MIDNIGHT.

OH, OKAY.

A TO A PUMPKIN .

THAT ALL MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE TO, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO OR DON'T WANT TO.

OR IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN WEAR IT IF YOU WANT.

IT PEEKS AWAY THE PUMPKIN MESS.

RIGHT? EXACTLY.

OKAY.

SAVES US SHAVING FOR SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE.

ARE WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION? DID WE DO WESTCHESTER BANKING? THE WESTCHESTER? I FORGOT WHAT THAT WAS.

THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING FROM, FROM, UM, IS IT WEST COP? UH, WEST, UM, OH, I LOOKED IT UP.

IT'S ABOUT COMMUNITY BANKING.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH US, RIGHT? THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, RIGHT? WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T.

THAT WAS LIKE MONTHS AGO.

I DIDN'T GET A LINK.

I DIDN'T GET EMAIL NUMBERS BEFORE.

NO.

SO WE, WE

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COULD PUT THAT ON A FUTURE.

I'LL LOOK, LOOK IT UP AND WE CAN INVITE THEM AT SOME OTHER TIME.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IT'S PRODUCT.

SO I'M MAKING A MOTION TO GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS, UH, PERSONNEL MATTERS, CONTRACTUAL MATTERS AND LEGAL MATTERS.

AND THE PERSONAL MATTERS ARE RELATED TO, UH, INDIVIDUALS, SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

OKAY.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

AND IF YOU WANT TO GO IN THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA, WHICH IS, UH, E THE TOWN ASSESSMENT.