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UH, WELCOME TARA TOWN BOARD ON WORK SESSION.
UM, TODAY IS, UH, MARCH 22ND, AND, UM, IT'S, UM, AFTER FIVE 30 AND WE'LL START WITH THE AGENDA REVIEW.
ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON? UH, I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT, UH, BACK IN JANUARY WHEN AN EMAIL WENT OUT TO TOWN BOARD MEMBERS ASKING TO RECOMMEND INDIVIDUALS FOR WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, AND PAUL, YOU SENT BACK SEVERAL NAMES.
SO WE WILL BE HONORING THREE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS TOMORROW EVENING.
AND THAT'S JUDITH WATSON, FELICIA BARBER, AND ALICIA FORD.
UM, I JUST WOULD, IN HONORING IN MEMORY OF THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE WHO WERE KILLED DURING THE RUSSIAN INVASION, I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN DISPLACED FROM THEIR HOMES.
NOT IN MEMORY OF, BUT WE, WE MIGHT ADD THAT WE ARE IN SYMPATHY WITH DIFFERENT LOCATION THOUGH, BECAUSE YOU, PARDON ME? I THINK WE'D HAVE TO PUT THAT IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION AS OPPOSED TO THE MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR PEOPLE WHO DIE.
I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD, WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU MENTION THAT AFTER WE DO THE MOMENT OF SILENCE OR, OR YOU STATE THAT AND ALSO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE OVER 2 MILLION, RIGHT, RIGHT.
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NUMBERS.
THEY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BURIED UNDER THE BUILDING.
THERE'S, UM, YEAH, I SPOKE TO THE ORGANIZERS OF THE CONCERT, UM, IN TARRYTOWN ON SUNDAY, AND THERE'S ONLY A HUNDRED SEATS LEFT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST, IT WILL BE SOLD OUT PROBABLY IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
SO WHAT IS THE CAPACITY OF THE VENUE? UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A TAR TOWN.
UH, IT'S TAR THE MUSICAL, I'M NOT SURE.
BUT I LOOKED, I WENT ON TO BUY A TICKET AND I GOT DIVERTED THAT MANY LEFT AND THEY WERE NOT.
THE WHOLE, UH, IT'S ONLY THE BALCONY IS MM-HMM.
AND I ATTENDED THE, UM, THE A G C MEMORIAL.
PAUL WAS THERE ALSO LAST WEEK FOR RELIGIOUS LEADERS FROM EVERY FAITH.
AND, UM, IT WAS VERY IMPACTFUL.
AND THERE WERE SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS THERE AS WELL, UH, UH, INCLUDING GEORGE LATIMER.
UM, AND, UM, YEAH, IT'S REALLY, UH, IT'S VERY PAINFUL FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE'S SOME 2,500, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE OF UKRAINIAN DESCENT IN, UM, ALL WESTCHESTER.
AND CERTAINLY MY HEART, OUR HEARTS COLLECTIVELY GO OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE FOR SURE.
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION IS, UM, SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO BE AT THE BOARD MEETING TOMORROW, ALONG WITH, UM, UM, WITH DR.
AND, UM, HER, UH, FAMILY IS, UM, IN THE UKRAINE.
UM, SO, UM, YOU, IT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY C N UM, THE ORLEY SECRET AMBULANCE COURT.
THEY'RE RAISING FUNDS FOR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, UH, THAT PEOPLE IN, UH, THE UKRAINE, YOU KNOW, NEED.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A WOMAN IN ARDSLEY WHO I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH AND SHE'S BEEN HELPING SOME OF THE REFUGEES, UM, GET, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT.
UH, THERE'S LIKE AN ORGANIZATION THAT LIKE MATCHES PEOPLE UP.
I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY GETTING INVOLVED.
I WENT, I MYSELF WENT TO COSTCO AND BOUGHT A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF BECAUSE WE WERE COLLECTING, UM, GOODS FOR PEOPLE IN UKRAINE.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED FROM ONE OF THE UKRAINIAN, UM, PEOPLE AT THIS EVENT THE OTHER DAY WAS THEN THEY HAVE TO TRANSPORT TO EUROPE AND THEN GET IT INTO UKRAINE.
SO FUNDS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
THE DONATIONS THAT YOU, DONATIONS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
THEN THEY CAN BUY THINGS IN EUROPE MM-HMM.
SO, UM, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TOMORROW WE CAN, WE CAN LET
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PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE.BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE LIKE CLOTHING AND THAT DOESN'T REALLY, THEY DON'T REALLY NEED IT.
THEY NEED IT, BUT IT IS MORE IMPACTFUL IF WE SEND MONEY.
ANYTHING ELSE ELSE ON THE AGENDA? UH, COUPLE OF THINGS.
THE, UH, THE P SIX RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO EXECUTE A LETTER OF INTENT WITH WESTCHESTER COUNTY AND ITS DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION OF WESTCHESTER TO ESTABLISH A MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM SERVING THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND I UNDERSTAND WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THEM IN TOWN HALL, RIGHT? DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT? BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE, THREE PEOPLE IN-HOUSE VISITS.
I I, I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK.
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAN MAKE IT WORK AND THEN APPROVE IT HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH RICH FUND AND, UM, THEY WOULD BE USING, UM, UH, THE ASSISTANT HISTORIANS IN A ROOM.
UM, BUT WE, THIS IS LIKE REALLY, UM, AND THEN YOU, MARIA PETILLO WHO'S BEEN VOLUNTEERING, I'LL FIND ANOTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, LOCATION FOR, FOR HER BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY VERY IMPORTANT TO, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT IT'S IMPORTANT AND THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT WE NEED IT.
IT'S HOW CAN THEY PUT THREE PEOPLE IN THERE? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THERE, PLUS HAVE SPACE FOR THEM TO DO IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS AND DO THAT 24 7.
WELL, THEY COULD ALWAYS USE, UH, CONFERENCE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CONFERENCE ROOMS. WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.
THAT'S WHAT, BUT, BUT WE'RE SIGNING ON TO AN EXHIBIT A THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
SO THEY PUT IT IN WORDS THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE AVAILABLE.
I DON'T WANNA BE EMBARRASSED LATER ON.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE IT WORKS.
SO DO WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR RICH TO SAY HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK? I THINK I SPOKEN TO RICH AND ACTUALLY, AND THE POLICE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS. WELL, WE WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RIGHT.
JUST BECAUSE WE ARE VOTING ON IT.
IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THE, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
AND WE ARE REALLY STABLISH WE ARE ESTABLISHING MAKING TOWN HALL AVAILABLE TO THEM.
THEY'RE ESTABLISHING THE TEAMS. CORRECT.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME, SO IT'S ALSO A CLARIFICATION WORDING.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S A REFERENCE TO AN EXHIBIT A TO ME, THAT'S THE FACILITIES WE'RE GONNA MAKE AVAILABLE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DRAWINGS.
SO THEY'RE REFERRING, THEY'RE SAYING THAT WHAT THEY DESCRIBE IN THE DOCUMENT IS EXHIBIT A, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT CLASSIFIED THAT WAY.
AND SO WE, WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK.
'CAUSE IT'S GONNA LOOK AWFUL IF WE CAN'T.
AND SO I THINK RICH ACTUALLY WAS, LET'S SEE, IF HE'S, LET'S SEE.
I JUST WANNA MENTION THIS IS A FOLLOW UP.
IT'S REALLY IMPLEMENTING, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, ON DEALING WITH SYSTEM.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY SAID WE NEED MENTAL HEALTH.
UH, NO DOUBT WE NEED IT THERE.
AND IT'S, IT'S NO DOUBT WE NEED, IT'S MAKING SURE THE LOGISTICS WORK OF IT HERE.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE HAVE OUR T'S CROSSED AND I DOTTED SO RICH IS ON, SO, OH, OKAY.
I'M HERE HEARTEDLY WITH WHAT FRANCIS IS, IS SAYING WHEN, ANOTHER THING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WITH REGARDS TO LOGISTICS WHEN YOU'RE SETTING UP A A MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE IS THAT YOU KIND OF WANNA OFFER PEOPLE, UM, SOME KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, PRIVACY WHEN THEY'RE COMING INTO A BUILDING, HAVING TO WALK THROUGH THE HALLWAYS TO GET TO A PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT REALLY SHOULD BE DIMINISHED AND, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND ALSO DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, WE USE THE AUDITORIUM, UM, THE, UM, UH, BOARDROOM, RIGHT, RIGHT OFF THE DESK HERE.
AND WE HAVE JACKSON, UM, FOR 35 INTERNS THAT WE HAVE IN HERE.
SO THAT'S EVERY TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, BETWEEN 10 AND THREE THAT WE, UM, HAVE THOSE SPACES AVAILABLE MM-HMM.
IF THEY ARE, THEN WE MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS.
OF COURSE WE WORK THINGS OUT, BUT GENERALLY, UM, WE, WE USE THOSE SPACES.
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SO, UH, DANNY VALENTINE, CAPTAIN VALENTINE CAME TO, UH, US A FEW MONTHS BACK AND HE, UH, INDICATED THAT THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE AT TOWN HALL.UM, I DO WANNA NOTE THAT THEIR TRAFFIC DIVISION IS CURRENTLY, UH, IN AN OFFICE OUTSIDE THE CAFETERIA AREA OF TOWN HALL.
AND THEY UTILIZE THE GARAGE HERE.
THEY'RE KIND OF IN TOWN ALREADY.
WE CAN'T HEAR YOU RIGHT? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU EITHER SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE OR SPEAK LOUDER? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, YOU'RE SO, IT'S LOUD.
JANELLE, CAN YOU DO SOMETHING? TRY TURNING YOUR VOLUME UP.
YOU WANT ME TO COME? I'LL COME DOWN PLEASE.
WHY DON'T YOU COME DOWN? YEAH.
SO I, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALREADY UTILIZING PART OF TOWN HALL.
THEY, UH, OCCUPY ONE OF THE OFFICES OUTSIDE THE CAFETERIA.
UM, THEY ALSO OCCUPY THE GARAGE, UM, FOR THEIR MOTORCYCLE STAFF.
UM, SO DANNY VALENTINE CAME TO US A FEW MONTHS AGO ASKING IF THERE WERE ANY, IF THERE WAS ANY ADDITIONAL SPACE.
SO THE ONLY SPACE THAT WE KNEW OF IN TOWN HALL WAS THE HISTORIAN SPACE, WHICH HASN'T BEEN UTILIZED.
UH, HE INDICATED THAT HE HAD SOMEONE WORKING IN THERE, I THINK ON TUESDAYS THEY WOULD'VE TO GO INTO HIS CONFERENCE ROOM.
AND YES, THAT THERE'S BEEN NO REAL DISCUSSION OF IT.
I DID SHOW THE SPACE TO DANNY VALENTINE, HE THOUGHT IT WOULD WORK.
UM, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA IF WE, IF WE SAT WITH THE BOARD AND WENT OVER WHAT ALL THE DETAILS ARE.
AND YOU KNOW, AS JUDITH INDICATED, UH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INTERNS HERE OVER THE SUMMER.
I'M SURE THEY CAN GET IT TO WORK, BUT LIKE FRANCIS SAYS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN IRONCLAD PLAN.
SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BEST IF WE SAT DOWN WITH CAPTAIN VALENTINE AND THE BOARD TO REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT THEY'D BE DOING.
OR THE AGREEMENT COULD BE THAT WE'RE MAKING THAT ROOM AVAILABLE AS OPPOSED TO WE'RE MAKING FACILITIES AVAILABLE SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE THREE DIFFERENT PROFESSIONALS THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO IN PERSON INTERVIEWS INTER IN, IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS, I'M SURE ARE GOING TO WANT, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAINTAIN THEIR PRIVACY.
UH, AND WILL THAT ROOM BE ABLE TO HANDLE ALL OF THAT? SO, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONFERENCE ROOMS IN THE TOWN AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS USED, YOU KNOW, CONSTANTLY.
SO IF THEY NEED PRIVACY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY COULD SAY THEY NEED A ROOM AND WE'LL FIND THEM A CONFERENCE ROOM AND THEY'LL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT A, A WAY OF, BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA NEED PRIVACY.
BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA, SO THEY SHOULD REALLY, WE SHOULD REALLY DESIGNATE ONE PLACE AND MAKE SURE IT WORKS.
BECAUSE JUST TO JUDITH'S POINT, AND I KNOW I MISSED SOME OF IT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THIS IS A CHALLENGING TIME FOR THEM.
SO WE CAN'T JUST, WE CAN'T JUST PIECEMEAL IT UP.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DESIGNATED PLACE, NOT THAT WE JUST GO AHEAD TODAY, YOU GO THERE.
SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACCOMMODATE THEM APPROPRIATELY.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO COME IN.
YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND PERSON THAT'S IN HISTORIAN ROOM.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND A ROOM.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE WAY NONE, THAT'S NONE OF THEM ALREADY BEEN TRAUMATIZED.
WHAT IF THERE ISN'T A ROOM? SO WE JUST, WE JUST NEED A PLAN AND I'D LIKE TO DO IT IN ADVANCE INSTEAD OF AFTERWARDS AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN PIECE SOMETHING TOGETHER.
UH, AND, AND IT'S JUST THAT THE AGREEMENT, WHICH WASN'T GIVEN TO US INITIALLY, AND THEN I ASKED FOR IT, AND THEN I SAW THE AGREEMENT THAT IT, IT, UH, REFERENCED AN EXHIBIT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE.
AND THEN I WAS TOLD THE EXHIBIT IS ACTUALLY, UH, THE WORDING IN THE DOCUMENT AND THE WORDING IN THE DOCUMENT IS FAIRLY EXPANSIVE AS TO WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.
AND, AND, AND IT'S 24 7 TOWN HALL'S NEVER BEEN OPEN 24 7.
AND SO WE, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE, UM, PARTICULARLY BEFORE WE COMMIT TO IT IN OUR LETTER OF INTENT.
I SECOND WHAT, WHAT'S THE, UH, WHAT'S THAT TRAINING ROOM USED FOR? DOES ANYBODY EVER TRAIN IN THERE? THEY DO, YEAH.
YEAH, THAT'S USED TO BITE OFF.
AMRITA USES THAT ROOM OH, GREAT.
FOR THE TRAINING MEETINGS, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT USE OKAY.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE EVERY DAY.
LEMME ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN I'VE SEEN THE, THIS IS NOT A BAD, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT BECAUSE I'M
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WONDERING THE TRAINING ROOM FREQUENTLY WHEN WE'RE USING IT, IT'S NOT FILLED TO CAPACITY.HOW MANY, HOW OFTEN HAS IT BEEN FILLED TO CAPACITY SINCE YOU'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, HERE? HAS YOU NEVER WELL, UM, IT DEPENDS, PAUL, ON THE PURPOSE ON THE PROGRAM THAT'S GOING ON.
BUT OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, NO, IT HASN'T BEEN FULL TO CAPACITY BECAUSE OF SOCIAL.
THE BUILDING HASN'T BEEN, SOCIAL DISTANCING HAS BEEN APPLIED TO WHATEVER TRAININGS TAKE PLACE.
'CAUSE I'M, I'M SORT OF ONE, I'M WONDERING IF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE FIND THAT WE REALLY DON'T NEED THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, SPACE.
IF MAYBE WE COULD HAVE CREATED, UM, ANOTHER AREA AS PART OF THE TRAINING ROOM THAT WOULD BE EXCLUSIVELY, UH, FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD CREATE A, YOU KNOW, PARTITION THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT OFFICE AND THEN YOU COULD GIVE THEM MORE, MORE SPACE, MORE PRIVACY AND, AND THAT COULD BE ANOTHER LOCATION IF WE NEED, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT COULD BE LIKE A, A DOOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT OPENS AND CLOSES.
UH, NUMBER ONE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF STRESS.
AND YOU'RE MARCHING THEM AS TO JUDITH'S POINT, YOU'RE MARCHING THEM THROUGH THE OFFICE TO GET UP THERE.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE, IF YOU USED THE TRAINING ROOM, THEY'D BE SUBJECT TO LESS PUBLIC VIEW VIEW LESS.
IT'S EVEN PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY JUST WALK STRAIGHT UP AND GO TO THE LEFT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WALK THROUGH THE BUILDING.
SO THAT, THAT'S, BUT IT CAN BE A SHARED SPACE THOUGH, RIGHT? IT HAS TO BE, LEMME IT HAS TO BE A SINGLE SPACE.
IF ME AND YOU, IF YOU'RE MY COUNSELOR, I NEED TO BE ABLE, I DON'T WANT ANYONE, I DON'T WANT YOU TO PULL ELEVATOR.
WE COULD CREATE A SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF WE DON'T NEED THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE SPACE, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, BREAK IT IN HALF.
I'M, I'M SAYING JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
A THOUGHT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA, WE CAN HAVE CAPTAIN VALENTINE AND RICH AND ANYBODY ELSE TAKE A LOOK.
AND THIS IS JUST ONE OTHER, YOU KNOW, ONE OTHER OPTION.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE YOU ARE, I MEAN, MAYBE WE COULD USE PART THAT, THAT SPACE MORE EFFICIENTLY.
CAN WE EVALUATE IF ANYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO DO AMAZON OF THAT SPACE, YOU KNOW, FIND OUT HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING PAST HISTORY, DETERMINE HOW OFTEN THAT'S USED IN, BY AND AT THE OUTSIDE, HOW MANY PEOPLE, AND THEN CONFIGURE IT PROPERLY TO MAKE SPACE.
THAT'S WHAT I, TO BUILD A WALL.
RIGHT? NO, I THOUGHT IT WAS A CONSTRUCTIVE IDEA.
AND REMEMBER, ONE OF THE, ONE OR TWO OF THOSE WALLS ARE GLASS WALLS.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GIVE PRIVACY TO THE PEOPLE WALKING, YOU KNOW, UP, OUT OF THE ELEVATOR, UM, YOU'D WANT TO OH YEAH, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
THE ONE THAT LOOKS OVER INTO THE LOBBY.
WE JUST, BUT FRANKLY, I THINK, THINK THAT ROOM IS UNDERSIZED BECAUSE WITH THE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES WE HAVE THAT NEED TO TAKE THEIR TRAINING AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM DO IT DURING WORK HOURS.
UH, AT LEAST WHEN WE WERE DOING ITY OR WE WERE DOING SOME OF THESE OTHER PROGRAMS, UH, WHEN THEY DO THE TRAINING, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED ALL THOSE COMPUTERS AND THAT'S SPECIAL.
THAT'S SPECIALLY WIRED FOR THOSE COMPUTERS TO, TO REROUTE THAT.
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE MUST BE SOME OTHER LOCATION OTHER THAN WHERE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO RAMP UP OUR TRAINING.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK IT HOLDS THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE, IN TO START WITH.
YOU KNOW, AND WE WERE DOING THE INTERVIEWS EVEN FOR, UH, FOR CAPTAIN MM-HMM.
IT DID FEEL LIKE A TIME WARP THOUGH.
IT FELT LIKE IT WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARY IN THE ROOM ANYMORE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH OUR HISPANIC LEADER LIAISON, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
WE CAN'T JUST, I THOUGHT, OKAY, AND RICH, WE CAN PUT A COMPUTER THERE AND A DESK.
WE, WE HAD TALKED TO, UH, I THINK TRISTAN AT THE TIME, AND HE COULD GET THAT DONE.
I THINK CAPTAIN VALENTINE WAS COMFORTABLE THAT THE HISTORICAL ROOM WOULD WORK.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I, I WASN'T AWARE THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA.
SO I COULD CERTAINLY SIT DOWN WITH HIM AND, AND BOARD MEMBERS.
AND HOW OFTEN IS THAT SEATING AREA USED? DO WHEN, HOW MANY TIMES DOES SARAH USE HER IN THE TRAINING ROOM? IN, IN, OUTSIDE OF THE, OUTSIDE OF PAUL'S OFFICE IN THAT LOBBY AREA? ACROSS FROM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CONFERENCE ROOM? NOT THE CONFERENCE ROOM, NO.
IS THAT, HOW OFTEN IS THAT USED? OH, THE PEOPLE USE A, YEAH.
WHAT ABOUT SARAH? DOES SARAH USE HER OFFICE? NO, THAT'S ANOTHER OFFICE.
SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ROOM FOR A, A, A VERY, A PRIVATE MEETING ROOM IF THEY USE THIS, THE, UH,
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YOU KNOW, HISTORIC BOARD ROOM FOR THE LACK OF, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ROOM NUMBERS.UH, IF WE USE THAT FOR THE STAFF.
BUT THEN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY CLOSE AND IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DOORS.
SO THAT'S A BETTER, I THINK THAT'S A BETTER, UH, THAT MIGHT BE A, A WAY OF USE, BECAUSE SIERRA IS NOT HERE ALL THE TIME.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND YOU HAVE THEM, AND THEN WHEN SIERRA NEEDS IT, YOU, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT COULD WORK ACTUALLY.
OR WAIT, OR, BUT WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, IT'S GOTTA BE FOR THEM BECAUSE IT'S 24 7.
SARAH, OR YOU COULD HAVE SIERRA COULD, SARAH WOULD HAVE TO USE THE SAME ROOM THAT MARIA IS USING.
BOTH OF THEM MIGHT NOT BE HERE ALL THE TIME.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THE LARGER ROOM, WHICH IS SARAH'S ROOM, COULD ACTUALLY BE USED FOR THE, YOU KNOW, FOR, UH, THE COUNTY MEN, THE MENTAL HEALTH, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM.
AND THAT ACTUALLY IS WORKS BETTER BECAUSE YOU COME RIGHT INTO THAT'S A, THAT, THAT DOES MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IT'S MORE PRIVATE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER TO GET THERE.
I, I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD, A REALLY GOOD SUGGESTION.
SO RICH, COULD WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN? WE ABSOLUTELY CAN.
COULD WE FIND OUT FROM THE COUNTY WHAT THEIR SPACE NEEDS ARE? LIKE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE? MM-HMM.
THAT WOULD HELP US A LOT BECAUSE IT REALLY LEAVES A, A LOT TO THE IMAGINATION WITH THE AGREEMENT AND WORDS.
SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HELP US AT THE RISK OF WE ABSOLUTELY WILL.
AND, AND IS THIS GOING TO INVOLVE 24 HOUR SECURITY? IT'S GOT TO AT THE FRONT DESK.
IT'S GOT TO, UH, WHO PICKS UP THAT COST? HUH? OH, THAT'S GREAT.
IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE PICKING UP THE COST.
RIGHT, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE 24 HOUR SECURITY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
OH, NO, I'M SAYING, I'M SAYING IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE A SECURITY 24 HOURS.
I WASN'T COMMENTING ON THE, UH, PAYMENT ON THE, YEAH.
WELL THAT IS SOMETHING TO SUSPICION ABOUT.
IF WE HAVE TO HAVE SECURITY HERE 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, IT DOES OPEN UP.
SO WHO'S DOING MAKES THE PROGRAMS, MAKES THE ABILITY TO HAVE PROGRAMS HERE MUCH EASIER.
THAT, THAT'S, THIS IS ALSO, THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS.
THIS IS ALL FOR THE WELL, BUT WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW NIGHT,
RIGHT? SO WE NEED TO TABLE THAT.
THERE'S SO MUCH STUFF THAT NEED TO, LET'S HOLD IT OVER.
'CAUSE THIS, WE'RE NOT DOING THIS ALONE.
WE'RE DOING THIS WITH WHITE PLAINS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
THAT'S WHY THIS IS A DEMOCRACY.
WELL, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A GENDER REVIEW.
SO I'M, LEMME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION AND OUT NOW OUT OF THE BOX IDEA THAT IF IT'S A DUMB IDEA, I DIDN'T THINK OF SOMEBODY ELSE BROUGHT IT UP, BUT I'M JUST SHARING IT.
WHAT ABOUT A TRAILER? UM, IF IT, I'M TALKING ABOUT IF YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, WE'VE HAD TRAILERS, UH, THAT HAVE CONFERENCE, YOU KNOW, AREAS AND, UM, AND, UH, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA THOUGH.
JUST WANNA MAKE YOU, YOU CAN HAVE THAT IDEA, PAUL.
WE HAVEN'T FULLY THOUGHT IT THROUGH YET, SO.
I'M SAYING IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA ON FIRST BLOCK.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
TALK ABOUT IT TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IT'S MORE PRIVATE.
YOU KNOW? WHAT ABOUT PARKING SPACES? PEOPLE DON'T USE THAT.
NO, I'M SAYING YOU COULD, WE HAVE A LOT OF SPACE IN THE BACK.
AND YOU THEN NOBODY WOULD SEE ANYBODY COMING IN THE, IN THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT.
IN THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT.
RIGHT? NO ONE PARKS OVER THERE.
WE COULD, WE CAN THERE PUT OUT A SPECIAL AREA.
OR WE COULD PUT IT, WE COULD FIGURE IT OUT.
WELL, WE GOT, I MEAN, NO, IT'S GONNA TAKE OUT LIKE 10, 12 PARKING SPACES.
AT LEAST WE, WE HAVE DEFINITELY ENOUGH SPACE THAT'S UP THERE.
I THINK, BUT THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE BETTER TO FIGURE OUT IN ADVANCE OF US VOTING.
SO SMILE IMPRESSED WITH MY THINKING ABOUT UHHUH.
SO, SO WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE TRAILER, YOU ALSO PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE FACT THAT IN THE BACK PARKING LOT, WE'RE SETTING UP A FARMER'S MARKET EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT FOR FIVE MONTHS.
SO PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
BUT, AND THE SECURITY BECOMES AN ISSUE.
WHAT SECURITY FOR THE, THE FARMER'S THAT THEY NEED.
THEY DON'T, THEY NEED SECURITY.
NO, BUT, SO WAIT, OKAY, SO THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO CAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S 24 HOURS, WE NEED TO REALLY FIGURE THAT OUT.
THE COP, THE POLICE OFFICER CAN COME AND WE CAN MAYBE UTILIZE THEIR SERVICE.
AND FIVE MINUTES, IF YOU FIVE MONTHS OF THE FARMERS, WE GOTTA PUT ALL THAT DOWN BECAUSE THAT'S
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ETHICAL.AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, IT'S SERVICING WHITE PLAINS ALSO MAYBE.
I MEAN, WE DON'T, WELL IT'S NOT SO MUCH TRAFFIC, BUT JUST THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHITE PLAINS CAN, IF THERE'S ANY EXPENSE TO GO THE MUNICIPALITY.
WHEN IS THE FARMER'S MARKET START IN JUNE? UH, WE'RE TARGETING JUNE.
SO WE PULL THAT OVER UNTIL WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION, UNTIL WE GET MORE HOW, AS IT SEEMS. SO LET'S SEE.
NOW ON PO ONE, PO TWO AND PO THREE HAVE WE NOTIFIED THE RESIDENTS OF MOUNT JOY AVENUE, UM, ROBIN HILL ROAD AND, UH, HENRY STREET.
OLD ARMY ROAD MOUNT JOY MOUNT JOEY AVENUE.
UH, HAVE WE NOTIFIED THEM THAT THE STREET'S GOING TO BE TURNED INTO ONE WAY? SO WE MET WITH THE RESIDENTS OUT, UH, BRIAN AND I ON, UH, ROBIN HILL ABOUT A SIDEWALK PROJECT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THERE.
UM, AND THEN WE, THEY MADE THE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT DEDICATING ROADS ONE WAY.
UH, SERGEANT RESON, UH, GARRETT DECANE, MYSELF, MEMBERS OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OF BRIAN SIMMONS MET WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON SITE.
'CAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS PREPARING CAMPUS PLANS.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANY, I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO, UH, COLIN MCCARTHY, WHO'S KIND OF BEEN OUR GO-TO PERSON OUT THERE TO GET THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, UM, TO LET HIM KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN FORMALLY ADVISED.
THIS IS ON A TOWN BOARD AGENDA.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
WE HAVE A MAILING OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH NICK, UH, SERGEANT REXTON HAS, UH, REALLY, I MEAN, I, HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE TOWN.
HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS ARE ON THE STREET? DO YOU KNOW? RICH? OH, IT'S, IT, THERE'S QUITE A NUMBER.
SO THERE SHOULD BE AN ATION FIRST BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING.
DO YOU WANT OVER AND I COULD POST IT ON THE WEBSITE AND THEN COMMUNICATE TO RESIDENTS THAT THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? WELL, THE COMMUNICATION, A LOT OF RESIDENTS MAY NOT LOOK AT THE WEBSITE.
SO I THINK NO, I'M SAYING IT WOULD BE BOTH.
BUT SNAIL, I COULD ALSO CONTACT, UH, UH, THE HEAD OF THE OLD EDGE ONE, YOU KNOW, ASSOCIATION.
I MEAN, WHEN I'M BIKING AROUND, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR THIS OVER, YOU KNOW, OVER, OVER THE YEARS.
SO I THINK THAT THERE'LL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, IF PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SIDEWALK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, CAN YOU GIVE US LIKE A LITTLE UPDATE ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RICH FOR THIS YEAR? YEAH.
SO IS IT FOR THE ROBIN HILL? YEAH, THAT'S, WE MET WITH THE RESIDENTS ON THAT ROAD IN PARTICULAR, AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING, UH, RESIDENTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT CHILDREN, UH, GETTING TO SCHOOL.
AND THEY HAD VIDEOS AND PICTURES OF THEM DARTING FROM CARS.
AND IT'S A, IT'S REALLY, IT WAS UNRULY.
SO WE DETERMINED THAT THE BEST BET FOR THE TOWN WOULD TO BE MAKE TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN, UH, AND ALSO DO ONE SIDE OF THE STREET PARKING AT THEIR REQUEST.
UM, AND PART OF THAT WOULD BE CREATING A ONE-WAY.
UM, SO THIS WAS DISCUSSED OUT IN THE FIELD.
IT WAS A FREEZING DAY IN JANUARY.
UH, AND THEN THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER DISCUSSIONS AGAIN WITH THE SCHOOL.
'CAUSE THE SCHOOL IS PLANNING PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH, AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO NOW COORDINATE WITH THE TWO PARTIES TO GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS AFFECTED THERE.
JANELLE, CAN YOU DISPLAY MY SCREEN THAT I'M SHARING? I CAN SEE IT.
I, I KNOW, BUT YOU KIND OF KNOW IT.
A IT'S A, SO THE IDEA IS ROBIN HILL ROAD, A NEW ONE WAY CIRCULATION PROPOSED.
SO, SO IT'S A RESOLUTION TO MAKE ROBIN HILL ROAD A ONE-WAY STREET SOUTHBOUND FROM MOUNT JOY AVENUE TO HENRY STREET.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, RES, UH, RESOLUTION MAKING ROUND HILL ROAD, A ONE-WAY STREET NORTHBOUND FROM MOUNT JOY AVENUE, THE WESTERN LEE INTERSECTION TO MOUNT JOY AVENUE, THE EASTERLY SECTION, AND THEN ANOTHER RESOLUTION MAKING MOUNT JOY AVENUE A ONE-WAY STREET WESTBOUND,
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UM, OLD ARMY ROAD TO THE WEST INTERSECTION OF ROBIN HILL SHOULD BE ROAD.AND SO ALL OF THOSE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION TOGETHER IS WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
AND THAT ONE GREEN AREA YOU SEE THERE, THAT'S WHERE THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE.
AND THIS IS THE SIDEWALK? CORRECT.
AND YOU WOULD PUT THAT IN, UH, THIS YEAR? YES.
THE INTENT IS TO GET IT STARTED, UH, AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
SO IN CASE IT'S TOO SMALL, THE OVERALL NOTE NOTES SEEM TO BE HELPFUL.
NEW PATTERN WILL PROHIBIT THE LEFT ONTO OLD ARMY ROAD FROM MOUNT JOY AVENUE, IDENTIFIED AS A CONCERN.
NEW PATTERNS REDUCE THE CONFLICTS AT MOUNT JOY AVENUE AND ROBIN HILL ROAD INTERSECTION.
UH, REMOVE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STOP SIGNS.
SIDEWALK PROPOSED IN HIGH PEDESTRIAN LOCATION, MINIMAL DISRUPTION TO OVERALL EXISTING TRAFFIC PATTERNS, PROPOSED PATTERNS DESIGNED TO ENHANCE AREA SAFETY AS STANDALONE UPDATE AND IN CONNECTION WITH PROPOSED SEALY PLACE.
UH, RICH, UH, IN TERMS OF THE SIDEWALK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTIES IS LIKE VERY, VERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S SMALL PROPERTIES.
SO THE SIDEWALK IS GONNA TAKE A LOT OF THE, THE FRONTAGE.
UM, AND DO THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE GONNA HAVE THE SIDEWALK KNOW THAT IT'S ON THEIR SIDE OF THE STREET? YEAH, WE'VE MET WITH 'EM.
UH, THEY'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS.
UH, WE ARE GONNA BE, WE ARE GONNA BE BUMPING THE EXISTING CURB OUT INTO THE ROAD.
SO TO DO THAT, THIS WOULD'VE TO BECOME A LAND LIMIT, ALSO LIMIT PARKING TO ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.
UM, SO THEY WON'T BE LOSING PROPERTY.
I'M BLOWING IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I DON'T THINK THE RESIDENTS THOUGH, HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THESE, UH, ONE WAY PROPOSALS YET.
WELL, I THINK THE BOARD SAID THEY WANTED TO ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
AND THAT WOULD MAKE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
SO, AND THAT'S WHY WE COULD DO THE OUTREACH.
SO WHAT I SUGGEST WE DO IS WE LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TOMORROW NIGHT, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE HAVING NOW.
THEN WE'LL HOLD IT OVER TO VOTE ON AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND THIS WAY MORE PEOPLE WILL CERTAINLY BE AWARE OF IT AGAIN, GOING INTO, YOU KNOW, LET'S WORK IT OUT IN ADVANCE RATHER THAN AFTER THE FACT.
RICH, UH, UH, BEFORE, UH, I FORGOT TO ASK YOU TODAY, NORTH WASHINGTON, UH, YOUR SIDEWALK.
WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, WHEN DO YOU THINK CONSTRUCTION OF THAT WOULD START? WE'RE PLANNING NOT START THIS YEAR.
THAT LONGVIEW AND WELL, ROSE BARNS THIS YEAR.
I THINK HILLSIDE IS ON THE AGENDA TOO, BUT THAT'S, I, THAT'S WITH THE STATE AT THIS POINT.
SO PAUL, WHAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WHAT, UM, WE HAD AGREED WE WANTED TO BRING TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION, UH, WAS THAT THE, UH, COMMITTEE THAT, UH, CAME, WAS FORMED TO INTERVIEW CANDIDATES TO BE THE FARMER'S MARKET MANAGER, UH, UNANIMOUSLY AGREED TO APPOINT, UM, OR TO SELECT COLBY JENKINS, WHO IS A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND HAS A CATERING BUSINESS AND BRINGS TO US, UM, MUCH, MUCH EXPERIENCE, UM, WITH, UM, UH, EVENTS.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, SHE'S VERY WELL CONNECTED TO ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN THE TOWN AS WELL AS IN THE COUNTY.
UH, WHICH WE FEEL WILL REALLY HELP WITH, UM, REACHING OUT TO INDIVIDUALS TO SUPPORT THE MARKET.
SO TIM HAS, UM, UH, PUT TOGETHER A CONTRACT, BUT WE REACHED OUT TO SOME OF OUR, OUR, UM, VILLAGES, HASTINGS, AND IRVINGTON.
UM, THEY SHARED WITH US THE CONTRACTS THAT THEY USED WITH THEIR FARMER'S MARKET MANAGERS.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT BOTH CONTRACTS.
TIM LOOKED AT THEM AND DEVELOPED ONE FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
SO THE NEXT STEP IS TO PRESENT THE CONTRACT TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN GET IT TO COLBY.
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WHEN WOULD YOU FIND THAT A CONVENIENT TIME TO REVIEW THE CONTRACT? WE SHOULD DO IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.'CAUSE THIS IS LATE, WE'RE GOING INTO LATE MARCH, AND LAST YEAR WE ALMOST LOST, UH, FARMERS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE IT ON TIME.
BUT, AND WE, BUT THEN WE DID HAVE A CONTRACT.
AND WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CONTRACT THAT WE WORKED OUT LAST YEAR THAT WE WERE FINE WITH, EXCEPT, UM, THERE WASN'T MUCH TIME TO HAVE.
THE FARMER'S MARKET IS DOES SOUNDS LIKE THIS, THAT WAS A CONTRACT FROM VENDORS.
I'M, IT SOUNDS BASICALLY IS, ISN'T IT THE CASE THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT CONTRACT? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S DIFFERENT.
WELL, TIM IS HERE AND HE CAN SPEAK TO IT.
BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S A SIMILAR, VERY SIMILAR CONTRACT AS THE ONE YOU WORKED OUT LAST YEAR.
WELL, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE ONE WAS A VENDOR AND ONE IS A MANAGER, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, NO, HE WAS JOE, WAS HE GONNA MANAGER HIRED AS A MANAGER.
OH, SO WE HAVE, YEAH, THE CONTRACT IS ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME.
AS THE CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED THE LAST TIME WITH JOE OF SAT, UH, SATORI MANAGEMENT, WE EVEN HAVE THE SAME MAP AND DRAWINGS.
THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENCE IS, UM, I THINK COLBY WILL BE PAYING A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER, UH, FARMER'S MARKET EVERY THURSDAY.
UM, ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.
DO WE HAVE A COPY? CAN WE HAVE A COPY? THE DIFFERENCE IS SHOWN.
I THINK WE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING.
I THINK WE, I THINK WE WANTED TO SHOW THE CONTRACT TO COLBY JENKINS OF JIM STAR TO SEE IF SHE HAD ANY INPUT, UM, INTO THE CONTRACT BEFORE WE GAVE IT TO THE BOARD.
I THINK SHE SHOULD SEE IT BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT TO MAKE SURE SHE'S OKAY WITH IT.
THAT'S A GREAT, YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S GREAT.
WE HAD A, WHO WAS ON THE COMMITTEE WHO WAS A BROAD-BASED COMMITTEE.
OH, WE HAD AN EXCELLENT COMMITTEE.
UM, LET'S SEE, UH, JOHANN SNAGS, UH, HAW.
NAMES ARE GOING RIGHT OUT MY, MY MIND.
BUT WE, WE HAD TWO OR THREE REPRESENTATIVES FROM FEGS, THE FAIRVIEW ECONOMIC, UH, EMPOWERMENT GROUP, AND THREE FROM THE TOWN, KRISTA, MYSELF, AND GARRETT.
SO IT WAS A WELL-BALANCED, WELL-REPRESENTED, UM, COMMITTEE.
AND YOU INTERVIEWED ABOUT THREE PEOPLE? WE INTERVIEWED THREE INDIVIDUALS, YES.
AND CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE RESPONSI, ROUGHLY THE RESPONSIBILITIES? I GUESS YOU CAN, YOU CAN'T BE SPECIFIC AND ROUGH AT THE SAME TIME, BUT GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE POSITION ARE.
WELL, UM, SHE'S GOING TO BE, SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, OVERSEEING THE MARKET, SELECTING THE VENDORS.
UM, WE PUT INTO THE CONTRACT A CLAUSE THAT REQUIRES THAT SHE IS, UM, AWARE OF THE PERMITS AND LICENSES REQUIRED BY THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
UM, UH, WHICH WAS EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL TO US IN, UH, I SPOKE WITH KATHY.
AND, UM, SO, YEAH, SO COLBY IS, IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SELECTING THE VENDORS.
UM, AND WE HAVE ALSO SET UP A WEEKLY MEETING.
WE MAINTAIN, WE, UM, MAINTAIN THE COMMITTEE AND WE'LL MEET WITH HER ON A WEEKLY BASIS JUST TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO REMAIN UP UPDATED AND ENTERPRISED OF ANY ISSUES OR CONCERNS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A REALLY SUCCESSFUL FARMER'S MARKET.
I JUST WANNA ADD THAT SHE, UM, JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED THE M W B E, UH, CERTIFICATION, WHICH THAT'S MINORITY WOMAN OWNED BUSINESS CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS, UH, REALLY EXCITING FOR HER AND HER BUSINESS AS SHE CONTINUES TO GROW.
SO WE REALLY WANNA COMMEND, SHE GRADUATED FROM LAUNCH 1000 OFFERED BY THE COUNTY MM-HMM.
WE JUST NEED A CONTRACT NEXT ON, UH, THE AGENDA.
UM, PROPOSED LEAFBLOWER LEGISLATION.
AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT, ARE WE FINISHED WITH THE AGENDA REVIEW? ARE WE, ARE WE SET? OKAY.
JUST AN I OUT OF THE BOX THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE COLBY CATER OUR TOWN BOARD MEETINGS.
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THAT COULD THAT, THAT'S, THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE FINE.I HOPE YOU'RE LISTENING COLBY
AND SHE ALSO HAS A SEASONING BUSINESS, SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OKAY.
SO SHE, SHE'S VERY, SHE'S DEFINITELY, WE'LL BE VERY, VERY SEASONED FOOD
WE ARE NOT SOLICITOR ANY VOTE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA, SO NEXT THE LEAFBLOWER LOOK, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR LIKE A COUPLE DECADES.
UM, SO THE THOUGHT THAT I HAD WAS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE BASICALLY ARE ANNOYED WITH THE NOISE.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE GOVERNMENT TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO.
AND IT'S BASICALLY 50 50 PRETTY MUCH EVERY TIME.
DEFINITELY NOTHING'S EVER GOTTEN DONE.
SO WHAT I'M SORT OF THINKING NOW, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE DOING SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, MOST COMMUNITIES ARE DOING MORE THAN GREENBURG HAS DONE.
SO WHAT I SORT OF THOUGHT WOULD BE AN INITIAL COMPROMISE WOULD BE TO BAN COMMERCIAL LEAF BLOWERS, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE TOWN, JUST LIKE SCARBOROUGH DOES.
BUT IT WOULD ONLY BE, YOU KNOW, FOR COMMERCIAL THEN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, I THOUGHT WE SHOULD HAVE MAYBE A FEW DAYS DURING, IT COULD BE LIKE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, UM, WHERE, UH, WE WOULD HAVE A LIMITED TIME DURING THOSE THREE DAYS OR WHATEVER, WHERE WE WOULD ALLOW, UM, GAS POWERED LEAFBLOWER, UM, JUST FOR LIKE TWO OR THREE HOURS.
UM, AND WE WOULD PICK THE TIMES AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD GET PEOPLE USED TO THE IDEA OF THE ELECTRIC, UH, BLOWERS.
WE, WE WOULD SPEND THE FIRST YEAR JUST ENFOR, YOU KNOW, ENFORCING IT.
UH, THE COMMERCIAL, UM, WHAT DO YOU MEAN JUST ENFORCING IT? YOU MEAN GIVING WARNINGS? YEAH.
WE WOULD GIVE, WE WOULD ENFORCE IT.
YOU ENFORCE IT THE FIRST YEAR.
EVERYTHING WE, WE WOULD DO EVERYTHING THAT FAR AS SALE IS.
IF WE ADOPT THE LAW, WE WOULD DO EVERYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DILIGENCE SCARSDALE WAS, WAS DOING.
BUT THE REAL ENFORCEMENT IS, UM, I MEAN, BASICALLY IT'S THE COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPERS AND MANY OF THE COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPERS ARE ALREADY DOING BUSINESS IN SCARSDALE ANYWAY.
UM, AND THEN FOR THE, THE HOMEOWNERS WHO FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO USE THE LEAFBLOWER AND WE GIVE THEM A CO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS DURING THE WEEK THAT THEY COULD, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GIVE THE ELECTRIC LEAFBLOWER.
AND I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, NOBODY COULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A HORRIBLE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, COMPROMISE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE BASICALLY NOT TAKING AWAY PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.
THEN AGAIN, IT WOULD BE A BIG QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE COULD LIKE, DRAFT SOMETHING AND THEN MAYBE EVEN SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE IF WE COULD GET THIS AN ACTIVE QUICKLY.
WELL, THE KEY IS DRAFTING SOMETHING.
IF WE HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING, THEN WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
BUT WE KEEP THIS IF YOU KEEP COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS.
BUT SO, SO TERRY TORY HAD AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
SHE SAYS, WE LEFT OFF LAST FALL WITH A DRAFT LAW THAT ADDRESSED THE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, HAD SUPPORT FROM TOWN STAFF AND WAS ENFORCEABLE.
IT WAS DECIDED TO DELAY VOTING SINCE WINTER WAS SOON UPON US.
WHY NOW IS THE TOWN LOOKING TO REWRITE THAT DRAFT LAW? THE, THE, THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF OPPOSITE, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE RIGHT.
BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TAKE A, WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING MUCH MORE, YOU KNOW, AGGRESSIVE.
THE, THE LAW THAT THE C A C HAS ADVOCATED, UM, IS, GOES EVEN FURTHER THAN YOU THE VILLAGE OF SCARSDALE BECAUSE THEY'RE FOCUSING ON NOISE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, MY FEELING IS FROM THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING WE HAD, YOU KNOW, ON THIS
BUT THERE'S GONNA BE, WE'RE DAMNED IF WE DO AND DAMNED IF WE DON'T ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE I'M GIVING YOU MY OWN.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA GET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY LIKE, DISGUSTED WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TOWN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING INCREMENTAL, UH, EVALUATED AND THEN A YEAR LATER WE COULD LOOK AND DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, UH, STRONGER IF PEOPLE START GETTING USED TO THE, THE LOWER LEVEL NOISE, THAT'S A BIG QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENT.
AND, UM, IF PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IF PEOPLE FEEL WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY THEIR RIGHTS AS, YOU KNOW, AS RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY, BUT THEN THEY START GETTING USED TO THE FACT THAT THESE ELECTRIC BLOWERS AREN'T, YOU KNOW, SO,
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YOU KNOW, SO HORRIBLE.THEN MAYBE THEY'LL COME AROUND AND IT WILL BE EASIER, SAY THE SECOND YEAR TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE STRONGER.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CA'S, UM, PROPOSAL, THE CAC C'S PROPOSAL IS LIKE IN AN IDEAL WORLD IS FANTASTIC.
BUT THAT I, I CAN MAKE A BETTER DETERMINATION MM-HMM.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY STRONG AND VERY TOUGH, THE, THE, MY PREDICTION IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING.
I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT AS AN OBJECTION TO YOUR IDEA.
I JUST WANNA SEE WHAT THEIR PROPOSAL IS, AND I WOULD WANNA UNDERSTAND HOW WE WOULD TRANSITION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF THAT'S THE PLAN, WE SHOULDN'T ENACT SOMETHING AND THEN LEAVE IT OPEN-ENDED, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE THE TRANSITION IN PLACE OR THE PLAN FOR THE TRANSITION IN PLACE.
NOT JUST, NOT JUST SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TACKLE IT YET AGAIN.
THE C A C PROPOSAL DOES NOT ALLOW ELECTRIC LEAF BLOWERS.
UM, JUST LIKE BANNING GAS POWERED, IT DOES NOT ALLOW ELECTRIC LEAF BLOWERS AS AN ALTERNATIVE.
BECAUSE AS THEY KEEP SAYING, THE HURRICANE FORCE WINDS OF AN ELECTRIC LEAF LEAF BLOWER IS JUST AS DAMAGING TO HUMAN HEALTH AS TO GAS.
AND SO THEY MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT THE PARTICULATES IN THE AIR, UM, ARE, ARE POTENTIALLY LIFE THREATENING, BUT THEN IT ALL FALLS DOWN WHEN, BUT IT'S OKAY FOR TOWN EMPLOYEES TO USE IT.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ALWAYS HAVE THIS CONFLICT.
UM, I KEEP HEARING ABOUT SCARSDALE, SCARSDALE, SCARSDALE, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN A PROPOSED LOCAL LAW BASED ON SCARSDALE.
I JUST PULLED IT UP TO SEE WHAT SCARSDALE IS DOING.
INSTEAD, WE GOT SOMETHING AT, AT FOUR O'CLOCK TODAY, UH, ABOUT AMENDING OUR OWN LAW.
BUT IT'S, IT'S GOT THE WRONG SECTION LISTED AND, UH, IT, IT HAS IN THERE THAT GARDEN BLOWERS IN EXCESS OF 55 DECIBEL DECIBEL LEVELS.
D B A IS PROHIBITED, MAY 1ST THROUGH OCTOBER 1ST, AND THE C A C DID A STUDY AND FOUND THAT THERE'S ONLY THREE ELECTRIC LEAF BLOWERS MADE THAT COULD MEET THAT REQUIREMENT THREE.
SO, UH, WITH, WITH THAT ENACTMENT OF THE LAW WITH 55 DECIBELS IN IT, YOU MAY BE SAYING YOU'RE ALLOWING ELECTRIC OR GAS, BUT YOU'RE REALLY ALLOWING THREE VERY SMALL ELECTRIC LEAFBLOWER, WHICH COMMERCIAL ENTITIES JUST WON'T, WON'T USE.
NOW WASN'T, DID KRISTA, AND, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT 'CAUSE I WAS HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH MY, UH, EMAIL ACCESS.
DID SHE DO A YEAH, WE SENT TO THE, WE SENT THAT COMPARISON.
LIKE I SAID, FEEL THAT TO ME, LIKE THE SCARSDALE LAW, YOU KNOW, THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME PEOPLE REALIZE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SO CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, GOOD, MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS I'M GETTING ARE REALLY FROM LIKE THE EDGEMONT, YOU KNOW, AREA AND HARTSDALE AREAS.
AND A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPERS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE, YOU KNOW, IN SCARSDALE ARE SERVING HARSDALE AND, YOU KNOW, AND EDGE ONE.
ANYWAY, SO I FOUND THAT, THAT IF WE DAN, UH, GAS POWERED LEAF BLOWERS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH, WITH EXIST WITH THE SURROUNDING LAWS.
SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, DAN DEANNA FOR ALL THE COMMERCIALS, AND THEN I THOUGHT FOR THE, UH, FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, IT WOULD JUST BE, WE WOULD COME UP WITH SOME, SOME ARROW SOME DAYS WHERE THERE'D BE, UM, LIMITED EXCEPTIONS, BUT NOT EVERYTHING.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER TO ENFORCE.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ALSO NO, I, I AGREE.
LEMME SAY I FAILED ON MY PROPOSED COMPROMISE.
NOBODY WILL THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, BECAUSE IF YOU LIKE THE, IF YOU WANT A REAL BAND ON THE LEAF BLOWER, IT'S NOT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY CAVING IN TO, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, OPPOSITION.
AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE IDEA, PEOPLE WILL BE ANGRY.
SO, BUT THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, THIS IS SUCH A CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC THAT IT'S ALWAYS THAT I THINK THE STUDIES, HISTORICAL STUDIES HAVE SHOWN IT'S GONNA BE 50 50.
THERE'S NO WAY PLEAING EVERYONE, EVERYONE I'VE SPOKEN TO ABOUT MY IDEA MM-HMM.
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YOU KNOW, IS LIKE VIOLENTLY, VIOLENTLY AGAINST IT.SO I FEEL THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT PEOPLE WILL BE RESIGNED, I'LL SAY, OKAY, I'M NOT REALLY THRILLED WITH IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WILL GET, IT COULD GET THROUGH, WE COULD ENACT IT, WE COULD SEE HOW IT WORKS FOR A YEAR AND IF IT, AND IF IT'S, IF IT MIGHT WORK BETTER, UH, UH, WE'LL SEE HOW EASY IT IS TO ENFORCE, AND THEN A YEAR LATER WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING.
OTHERWISE, NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE SAME THING.
SO MAYBE, I MEAN, THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, IT TAKES, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
SO WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A PROPOSAL FROM WHAT SCARSDALE HAS? WHY DON'T WE HAVE THAT SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT? YOU MEAN JUST DO WITHOUT ANY, WITHOUT ANY, YOU MEAN JUST PUT THE SCARSDALE ONE THE WELL, WE WANNA SEE IT.
I MEAN, WE'RE ALL JUST SAYING WE, WE NEED, WE NEED TO SEE IT.
I MEAN, WE CAN'T BOOK VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T CAN SCARSDALE LAW AND THEN WE WILL, I MEAN, CAN YOU, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PROVIDE US WITH SCARSDALE LAW, CAN YOU PUT IT IN THE, IN THE CONTEXT OF GREENBERG, I MEAN, OF GREENBERG.
SO WE CAN, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE IT WORKS FOR US TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN.
AND I, I CARDALE IS BANS GAS LEAF BLOWERS.
IS IS THAT WHAT THE BOARD WANTS TO DO? DO YOU JUST WANNA, AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, AS I'M LOOKING AT IT, THEY BANNED IT IN THE FIRST YEAR.
UH, AND I'M SORRY, THEY ALLOWED GAS POWERED LEAF BLOWERS INITIALLY, AND THEN THEY BANNED IT THE SECOND YEAR.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS, IT'S KIND OF A MEANINGLESS DISTINCTION BECAUSE NOW THAT THE ELECTRIC LEAF BLOWERS ARE JUST AS LOUD AS THE GAS LEAF BLOWERS, IT REALLY IS, WHICH BOTH, BOTH OF THEM MAKE, AND EACH, YOU KNOW, EITHER LEAF BLOWER IS AS ANNOYING AS THE OTHER.
SO THAT KIND TO ME IS KIND OF A MEANINGLESS DISTINCTION.
WELL, UNLESS YOU A CARBON FOOTPRINT.
UH, THAT IS VERY TRUE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
IRONICALLY, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FOR FROM KRISTA, LIKE SHE, SHE HAS A, YOU KNOW, SHE BREAKS IT DOWN TOWN WISE, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE A SPREADSHEET IN COMPARISON, BREAKING IT UP, NOISE LEVELS, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION DATE RANGE, SO THAT WE CAN LOOK IN ONE FELL SWOOP, WHAT EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOES, SO THAT IT, IT, IT CAN, WE CAN MAKE A LOGICAL COMPARISON AND YEAH.
SO SCARSDALE SEEMS TO HAVE ALLOWED GASOLINE POWERED BLOWERS THEIR FIRST YEAR OF AN ENACTMENT, UH, BUT ONLY FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO DECEMBER 31ST AND LIMITING IT TO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
UH, BUT NOT FEDERAL LEGAL HOLIDAYS, ELECTRIC OR BATTERY POWERED BLOWERS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THESE RESTRICTIONS.
SO THEY ALLOW A HOMEOWNER, FOR EXAMPLE, TO HAVE AN ELECTRIC OR BATTERY POWERED BLOWER AND USE IT ON A WEEKEND IF THEY WANTED TO USE IT.
THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR, SECOND YEAR.
UH, IT'S BANNING THE GAS, GAS BLOWERS, ELECTRIC OR BATTERY POWERED BLOWERS ARE NOT SUBJECT.
SO THEY ALLOW ELECTRIC, THE C A C, UH, TAKES THE, UH, VERY STRONG POSITION, UH, REGARDING THE, UM, THE, UH, HEALTH, UH, THE, UH, DETERIORATE EFFECTS OF THE PARTICULATES IN THE AIR.
AND SO THEY, UM, ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF MM-HMM.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE OTHER PLACE WHERE THEY'RE VIRTUALLY INDISTINGUISHABLE, YOU KNOW, GAS, ELECTRIC, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THE PARTICULATE MATTER IS STILL BEING DISTURBED AND WE'RE BREATHING IT ALL IN.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE.
WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU GET SUPPORT TO BAN ALL LEAF BLOWERS, GAS OR ELECTRIC? AND DO YOU THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC WILL GO ALONG WITH THAT? WELL, BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENS WITH US? WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE TOWN? BECAUSE THEN WHAT ARE WE GONNA BE SUBJECT TO? 'CAUSE THAT WAS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE ARE ASKING RESIDENTS TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO FILE THE SAME SUIT.
SO YOU GOTTA, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BE, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHICH D V W SAYS IS NOT WORKABLE.
I THINK, I THINK MAYBE, MAYBE IF THERE WERE, IF THERE WERE A, A, A SIZE COMPONENT ATTACHED TO IT.
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YEAH.I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, AN ACREAGE COMPONENT.
LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, AN ACRE OR LESS, YOU'RE REGULATED.
AND I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT AS A, AN IDEA.
BUT IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN AN ACRE, YOU CAN USE A, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN USE A LEAFBLOWER, BUT BECAUSE, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT'S, BUT IT'S STILL, IF YOU, THIS IS WHERE THE ISSUE IS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE AN ACRE OR NOT.
WELL, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU'RE CONCERNED, WILL MASKING HELP NEGATE THE EFFECTS OF THE PARTICULATES FOR THE, FOR THE USERS? IS THAT MM-HMM.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE COME, HAS COME UP OVER THE YEARS IS ONCE YOU HAVE ANY EXCEPTION, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CEMETERIES.
VERY LARGE PARCELS THAT, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO SEEK, UH, AN EXCEPTION GOLF COURSES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO WE NEED, WE, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW SCARSDALE, YOU KNOW, BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SCARSDALE.
MY GUESS IS, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA TO SUPPORT IT 'CAUSE I DIDN'T BOTHER TO TRY TO FIND IT.
I'D BE WILLING TO BET THAT WE HAVE MORE HOMEOWNERS BLOWING THEIR LEAVES.
THEY MAY, THEY MAY USE COMMERCIAL.
SEE, THAT'S WHY THERE'S A PROBLEM.
SO WHEN WE SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, SCARSDALE SAYS THAT YOU CAN USE THE GAS POWER BELOW FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO DECEMBER 31ST, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAYS, THAT'S WHEN THE HOMEOWNERS ARE PROBABLY WORKING, AND THEN THEY WANT TO DO IT ON THE WEEKEND, ON THE WEEKENDS.
AND, YOU KNOW, DO WE REALLY, DO WE REALLY WANT TO PREVENT A HOMEOWNER FROM DOING THAT? OR SAYING, OKAY, YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET A LANDSCAPER MM-HMM.
AND YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH ALL YOU WERE SUGGESTING TWO HOURS A DAY, THERE AREN'T THAT, THERE AREN'T, THERE AREN'T ENOUGH LANDSCAPERS.
'CAUSE TWO HOURS A DAY, A LANDSCAPER MAYBE COULD BE ABLE TO DO TWO PROPERTIES AT MOST.
NO, I'M SAYING EVERYTHING WOULD BE ELECTRIC FOR COMMERCIAL, NO EXCEPTIONS FOR COMMERCIAL.
BUT WHEN CAN THEY BLOW? BUT IT'S STILL GONNA HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS, BOTH NOISE AND, NO, NO, I'M SAYING PARTICULATES.
I'M THAT WE, THE SCARSDALE LAW IS BASICALLY, UH, ELECTRIC GAS BLOWER, ELECTRIC BLOWERS ARE ALLOWED.
BUT NOT, SO I, I'M SAYING THAT WE WOULD SAY THE ALL FOR LANDSCAPERS, ANY COMMERCIAL, THEY COULD ONLY USE ELECTRIC BLOWERS, NO EXCEPTIONS AT ALL FOR HOMEOWNERS.
WE WOULD HAVE A BUILT IN TIME WHEN THERE WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION, UH, DURING THE WEEK WHERE THEY COULD USE GEARS OR ELECTRIC, BUT IT WOULD BE LIMITED.
SO IF SOMEBODY BASICALLY IS COMING HOME FROM WORK OR WHATEVER, AND THEY WANT TO DO A LITTLE GARDENING OR WHATEVER, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE GEARS OR ELECTRIC, BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY A ONE YEAR, UH, PROPOSAL.
AND WE WOULD HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS IT COULD, UH, AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE FOUR TO 6:00 PM OR WE WOULD PICK, WE WOULD PICK A TIME AND, UH, AND, AND THIS WAY NOBODY COULD SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T, I CAN'T AFFORD A A, A LANDSCAPER.
I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO BUY ANOTHER ELECTRIC, UM, LEAFBLOWER, YOU KNOW, I NEED SOME TIME WHERE I CAN BASICALLY DO MY LEAFBLOWER.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, MAKING THE DISTINCTION IF THE TWO ISSUES OTHER THAN USING, USING GAS VERSUS ELECTRIC.
BUT THE TWO ISSUES THAT SEEM TO CREATE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM ARE NOISE AND PARTICULATES IN THIS DISCUSSION THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO, WHETHER WITH, WHETHER IT'S GAS OR ELECTRIC.
WHAT WE'VE GOTTA THINK ABOUT ELECTRIC BECAUSE OF USING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.
NO, THE ELECTRIC IS, IS MUCH LESS NOISY.
WELL, I DON'T THINK THEY, I THINK THE ELECTRIC HAS, THEY'VE INCREASED THEIR CAPABILITIES AND THEIR NOISE LEVELS CONSIDERABLY ON ELECTRIC, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ANYWHERE NEAR THE HIGH-END GAS BECAUSE THE HIGH-END GAS BLOWERS,
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FRANKLY, THEY'RE ON WHEELS.THESE, THE, THE REALLY ENORMOUS ONES THAT I'VE SEEN, AND I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN, UH, HOW THEY DO IT IN CEMETERIES.
I BELIEVE IT WAS HIM WHO SAID IT.
AND SOME OF THE LAWS FAILED BECAUSE YOU GET TOO NUANCED.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU SAY IT'S AN ACREAGE SIGN, WELL, HOW DOES THE POLICE OFFICER OR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER KNOW THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY? MM-HMM.
AND FRANKLY, OUR ZONING IS NOT BASED ON ACREAGE.
IT'S AN R 40 ZONE IS NOT AN ACRE.
SO THE MORE YOU PUT IN TO IT, OR YOU CAN ONLY HAVE THREE BLOWERS GOING AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE TWO, UM, THEY MIGHT'VE JUST SHUT DOWN THE THIRD ONE.
IT DOES SEEM LIKE SCARSDALE ONE IS, IS SIMPLE, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO AFFECT NOISE.
UH, IT DOESN'T HAVE A DECIBEL LEVEL FOR NOISE.
SO NOW I'M LOOKING UP THERE NOISE PROVISION, BUT, WELL, AND AS YOU POINT OUT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GEARED, IT, IT, THE POPULATION THERE IS VERY DIFFERENT.
SO WHAT'S THE CONSENSUS? WHAT, WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE? YOU WANT TO WAIT TWO WEEKS LATER? WELL, I THINK ELLA WANTED TO LOOK AT THE C I C I ASKED TERRY TO SEND IT TO YOU.
AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I JUST WANTED DO A BETTER MM-HMM.
SO SCARSDALE SEEMS TO HAVE 66 DECIBELS MEASURED 23 FEET FROM THE UNIT.
SO THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS TO PASS A LAW THAT IS, THAT EVEN IF YOU COMPLIED WITH THE LEAFBLOWER LAW, YOU'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
SO I, I'D HAVE TO SPEND MORE TIME LOOKING AT THEIR YEAH.
I MEAN, COULD WE, DO YOU THINK WE'D BE ABLE TO TELL THE PROPOSAL, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, SAY AT THE, AT THE, BY THE NEXT WORK SESSION IN TWO WEEKS AND THEN WE COULD JUST SCHEDULE A HEARING? 'CAUSE OTHERWISE WE LOST THIS YEAR.
WE'RE NOT HAVING A WORK SESSION.
UM, I MEAN, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING BECAUSE TO ME, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, GET TO GET THE PUBLIC USED TO THE IDEA AND TO HAVE WHATEVER ARGUMENTS WE'RE GONNA HAVE, BECAUSE IT'S JUST UNPOPULAR.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE IS NOW? WELL, 50% RIGHT.
SO THE REALLY, IT'S WHICH WAY, SO YOUR POSITION IS WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING SO THAT THE 50% WHO ARE HAPPY THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WILL GET UPSET, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO, UH, WANT US TO DO SOMETHING MAY NOT BE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE DID.
BUT THAT'S GONNA, I THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT NOW YOU GOING WHATEVER WE DO.
BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING OVER 50%.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE? RIGHT.
SO THE ISSUE IS EXACTLY, THAT'S WORKABLE.
THAT'S WORKABLE, THAT'S WORKABLE.
SO I FEEL THAT RIGHT NOW, IF WE DO NOTHING, THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS HORRIBLE.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE AN IMPROVED QUALITY OF LIFE.
THEN A YEAR FROM NOW, AFTER THEY'VE
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EXPERIENCED SOMETHING, THEY MIGHT SAY, WOW, THIS IS REALLY, UH, GREAT.I I'M READY TO GO FOR A STRONGER LAW.
AND ALSO PEOPLE MAY, WHEN THEY ARE SHOPPING, THEY MAY SAY, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, MAYBE I WILL GET A LAW FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, LEAF LAW, A LEAF BLOWER.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BECOME MORE FAMILIAR.
THAT'S WHY I, I SORT OF FEEL THAT THE APPROACH THAT I TOOK, I, THAT I'M RECOMMENDING, I FEEL COULD GET US THERE.
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A COUNTY LEGISLATOR, UM, UH, EVERYBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT REASSESSMENT, AND I CAME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT WAS LIKE, REALLY STUPID.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE SURPRISED.
I, I, IT WAS, UH, I, I, I SAID THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE A, LIKE A 10 YEAR PHASE IN OF REASSESSMENT AND EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB.
THEY SAID, WE CAN'T WAIT 10 YEARS.
BUT THEY NEVER REASSESSED BECAUSE THEY NEVER DID THE REASSESSMENT BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS AFRAID OF IT.
IF THEY HAD DONE, IF IT WOULD'VE BEEN A 10 YEAR PHASE OR A LONG TIME, THEY WOULD'VE, THEY, YOU WOULD'VE HAD COUNTYWIDE, REASSESSMENT PEOPLE.
AND IT MIGHT'VE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WASN'T PERFECT FOR 10 YEARS, BUT AT LEAST THEY WOULD'VE HAD SOMETHING DONE.
AND SO THE SAME THING WITH US.
AND, AND THE REASON I'M FOR JUST DOING SOMETHING IS FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, AS A RESIDENT WHO LIVES, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDED BY OTHER RESIDENTS WHO USE, YOU KNOW, THESE DEVICES, IT'S IRRITATING AT 8 45 IN THE MORNING ON A SUNDAY WHEN YOU'RE SITTING ON YOUR TERRACE TRYING TO HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE AND YOU CAN'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, HEAR YOUR WIFE TALK NEXT TO YOU.
BUT THAT'S CURRENTLY A VIOLATION.
WELL, THAT'S THE ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM.
SO LET'S SAY, WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA IN TWO WEEKS OF MAY.
YOU KNOW WHAT, IF ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVERYBODY COULD THINK OF LIKE A PROPOSAL, MAYBE IT'S BETTER THAN, WELL, SOMEBODY GAVE SOMEBODY PUT THIS IN OUR, OUR HAND.
SO, SO WHAT IS THIS, TIM? IT'S, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO TAKE OUR EXISTING CODE AND MODIFY IT, BUT WHAT ABOUT, BUT SO, BUT SECTION H IS ACTUALLY, UH, BLASTING AND CHIPPING.
UM, SO IT SHOULD BE SECTION I, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TAKE IT'S MODIFICATIONS TO THE TIMES, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WE, I THOUGHT, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DECIMAL? I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN ISSUE TOO.
DECIMAL 55 DECIMAL THE IS DIFFERENT TOO.
AND NOW THAT, SO THEN THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER LAW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST.
AND THEN WHAT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE REALLY SHOULD BE UNDERLINED.
'CAUSE THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY IN OUR CODE.
WHAT'S, WHAT, FOUR AND FIVE OR IT SAYS ELECTRIC OR BATTERY POWERED BLOWERS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE AFOREMENTIONED RESTRICTIONS AND COULD BE OPERATED ANY TIME DAY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10:00 AM AND 6:00 PM PROVIDED THAT THEY DO NOT EXCEED 50 D B A NOW THAT'S EVEN LESS.
SO NOW YOU'RE BELOW AMBIENT NOISE LEVELS.
SO I THINK THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO, TO LIMIT THE, UM, TIMES THAT YOU COULD USE ANY BLOWER.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE BLOWING AT NINE IN THE MORNING.
IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT'S A COMPROMISE.
YOU CAN'T BLOW AFTER FIVE OR SIX.
IT'S A COMPROMISE TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
THERE MIGHT BE MORE PEOPLE BLOWING IN A, IN THOSE, YOU KNOW, UM, CONTRACTED TIME PERIODS.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TRY AS A COMPROMISE TO SEE IF IT, IF IT WORKS.
AND UM, PAUL, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, ALL UM, ELECTRIC BLOWERS ARE BATTERY OPERATED, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT ASKING SOMEONE TO GET A CORD AND OPERATE THEIR BLOWER WITH A CORD, ALTHOUGH I THINK THEY MAY EXIST.
THOSE ARE THE CHARGE ONES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO YOU CAN'T HAVE A FOSSIL FUEL GENERATOR OF ELECTRICITY AND PLUG IN YOUR ELECTRIC LEAF BLOWER TO IT AND YOU'RE LAUGHING.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING IS THE KIND OF THING THAT GOES ON.
SO WE NEED TO PROHIBIT THAT WORK AROUND BECAUSE YOU'RE REALLY NOT THEN SOLVING ANY PROBLEM WHATSOEVER.
'CAUSE THE GENERATOR IS MAKING NOISE, THE GENERATOR IS PUTTING OUT THE POLLUTANTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THE C A C MAKES VALID POINTS REGARDING THE POLLUTANTS.
UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX EVERYTHING AT ONCE.
I, I THINK, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FIX IT UP.
JUST CHANGE THE TIME PERIODS, BAN EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR BETWEEN THESE, THESE, THIS, THIS TIME AND THIS TIME.
BUT WE REDUCED THE D B A ON THE 25TH.
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BUT THAT'S A PROBLEM.SO WHY WOULD WE PUT THAT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS? RIGHT.
THE SECOND PAGE IS, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY TYPO 50, BUT WE CAN'T LEAVE IT AT 55.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T USE ANY BLOWER AT THAT POINT.
SO THEN YOU JUST SAID THAT THE 50 BUT 55 IS, WAS IN OUR CODE CURRENTLY, RIGHT? IT IS, BUT IT'S, THAT'S WHY ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY DOES RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING TO THE C A C STUDY, IF YOU'RE NOT USING THREE SMALL ELECTRIC, UH, MODEL, UH, UH, LEAF BLOWERS, YOU'RE IN VIOLATION.
AND THEN YOU'RE MANDATING THAT EVERYBODY HAS GOTTEN BY NEW LEAF BLOWERS.
THAT'S GONNA GO OVER VERY WELL.
YOU GOT, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA ROLL THAT IN SLOWLY.
YOU GOTTA FOLD THAT IN REALLY SLOWLY.
WELL WE GOTTA, WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT IN A WAY THAT, UH, MAKES SENSE AND COMPLIES WITH.
SO IT SHORTENS THE TIME PERIODS.
BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS IS NOT GONNA BE SATISFACTORY TO PEOPLE THAT WANT THE ORDINANCE CHANGED BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR NOISE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY OF STOPPING THAT.
I MEAN, BUT THE LIMITING OF THE, OF THE NOISE THAT YOU HEAR MIGHT BE A COMPROMISE FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT FOR, FOR THOSE MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE AN ENACT, AN ENACTED LEAF LEAFBLOWER LAW, HOW, WHAT THE, UM, IT WHAT HAS HAPPENED SUBSEQUENT TO THEIR ENACTMENT.
MAYBE KRISTA CAN JUST DO THAT.
I BELIEVE WE ASKED ABOUT THAT AND WE ASKED ABOUT SUMMONSES THAT WERE GIVEN, AND AT LEAST IN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS DOBBS OR SOME OTHER VILLAGE.
THEY MOSTLY GO OUT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, PLEASE DON'T DO THAT.
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
AND, UM, EVENTUALLY I GUESS PEOPLE CATCH ON.
BUT AS FAR AS, UH, SUMMONS DATA AND HAVE BEEN BLATANTLY IGNORING THE LAW, I THINK THERE'S A, I I DON'T THINK THERE'S GREAT ENFORCEMENT IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT THAT HAVE IT, BECAUSE WHEN I'M BIKING AROUND IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, I HEAR A LOT OF LEAF BLOWERS AND THESE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THE LEAFBLOWER ON THE LIST.
WELL WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT TOO, TOO.
THE INTERESTING THING, SCARSDALE NOW HAS DIGITAL BOARDS AND THEY BASICALLY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE EVER DONE THAT.
SO I HAVE A FEELING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, FORCING THE LAWS AND, AND, AND DOING SOMETHING.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, WE HAVE OUR SEVEN O'CLOCK YEAH.
AND SO, AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS YEAR AFTER YEAR WITH LEAF BLOWERS AND OTHER TOPICS THAT, UM, WE HAVE A VERY LONG LIST OF AGENDA ITEMS. AND THIS IS REALLY ONE OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAT WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE, THERE ARE A LOT OF, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES.
UM, WE NOW KNOW THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS MORE ATTENTION ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS GONNA COME UP.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR IDEAS AND WORK WITH TIM AND GET IT ON PAPER, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BECAUSE EACH TIME YOU COME, YOU, YOU, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL.
UM, YEAH, TIM, MAYBE WE NEED TO SEE, WE CAN WORK ON IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE NEED TO SEE IT IN WRITING AND YOU KNOW, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU COULD THINK OF WAYS OF TWEAKING IT OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE MAY HAVE BETTER IDEA, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO GET SOMETHING APPROVED.
WE ALL DO, BUT I MEAN, LIKE TO EVERYONE WE WORK, WORK WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKABLE TO GET APPROVED THAT IS BETTER, THAT BE HAPPY OR THAT, SHALL WE WRAP IT UP? DO YOU HAVE A MEETING? ALL SO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION BOARD.
I MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
FOUR FOR THE PURPOSES OF, UH, PERSONNEL CONTRACTS, LEGAL ISSUES.
AND PERSONNEL INVOLVING PARTICULAR PEOPLE, RIGHT? PAUL? YES.
AND INTERVIEW FOR A PARTICULAR BOARD.
AND WE WON'T BE COMING BACK TO, WE'RE NOT COMING BACK.
SHOULD BE GOING TO LEAH JACKSON SINCE IT'S REALLY HOT IN THERE.
WAS THERE ALL AFTERNOON?
SO LET'S GO IN THE OTHER ROOM.