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DONNA'S NOT, NOT OFFERING.AND IT'S GONNA BE SHORT MEETING, SO
[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL GREENBURGH TOWN HALL LEE F. JACKSON MEETING ROOM Agenda THURSDAY, March 24, 2022 – 6:30 P.M. ]
OF AGENDA WE HAVE IS, UM, DON DID INCREDIBLE JOB.I THINK THOSE MINUTES WERE OUT THE NEXT DAY.
SO WE HAVE THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 24TH TO APPROVE.
WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO VOTE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM? SOME OF THEM.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU GOT TO SEE THE TOWN BOARD MEETING LAST NIGHT? THANK YOU, MARGARET.
I WANNA, FIRST, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE WHO WORKED.
YOU ALL WORKED ON THE DOCUMENT AND WE, WE ACTUALLY GOT A NOTE OF, UM, FROM BOTH DOREEN LIPSON AND ALSO THE HEAD OF THE CORP
AND THAT WAS A DOCUMENT EVERYONE PARTICIPATED IN.
SO IT'S REALLY A THANK YOU TO EVERYONE IN THE C A C 'CAUSE IT WAS A, A GROUP EFFORT.
UM, SO LAST NIGHT, UM, IT WAS INTERESTING IN THE SENSE THAT I, NO ONE SPOKE IN FAVOR OF TOWNHOUSES.
EVERYONE SPOKE IN FAVOR OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.
UM, ONE MAN WHO I FOUND VERY MOVING, BECAUSE HE'S BUILDING A HOUSE AND
WHICH, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN SORT OF CONTENDING THAT, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE PROPERTIES LIKE THAT, PEOPLE TEND TO REALLY LANDSCAPE THEM.
UM, AND HE ALSO MADE A COMPELLING PLACE.
'CAUSE I GUESS HE WAS COMING FROM YONKERS AND HAD EXPERIENCED NEIGHBORHOOD HE WAS IN BEING CHANGED BY THE PRESENCE OF SUMMIT, MANY TOWNHOUSES.
SO I THOUGHT HE WAS A VERY EFFECTIVE SPEAKER.
HIS NAME WAS, YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS AN INDIAN NAME OR SOMETHING, PAKISTANI.
BUT HE, HE WAS, HE WAS REALLY SO ON POINT BECAUSE HE WAS TELLING HIM, THIS IS HOW IT CHANGED THE NATURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD I'M IN AND I'M COMING HERE AND I'M BUILDING THIS BEAUTIFUL HOUSE AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN TO ME.
AND I, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY EFFECTIVE THING BECAUSE HE WAS A, A NEW PERSON COMING IN.
THE OTHER THING THAT WAS VERY, I THINK, COMPELLING IS THAT THERE WERE SPEAKERS FROM ALL OVER THE TOWN SAYING, WE REALLY FEEL THIS CHANGES OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND OF COURSE THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROBABILITY THAT THESE UNITS COULD BE TAXED AS THESE SIMPLE WAS REALLY VERY QUESTIONABLE.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY, UM, THERE WAS NO LAW TO SUBSTANTIATE THAT POSITION.
AND THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME TWO SPEAKERS CLAIM.
THERE WAS LAW THAT ACTUALLY SHOWED THAT IT WOULD NOT HOLD UP.
AND I THINK THAT RESONATED WITH THE TOWN, TOWN BOARD.
I THINK THAT THEY DIDN'T, I THINK, NECESSARILY RECOGNIZE HOW BIG, UM, A LACK OF SUPPORTING LAW THERE WAS FOR THIS MOVE.
THAT IT COULD BE TOTALLY GO AWAY AND BE, IT'D BE TOTALLY, UM, TAKEN AWAY, IN WHICH CASE ANY ECONOMICS INVOLVED CHANGED DRAMATICALLY FROM BAD TO TERRIBLE, UM, WITH THE DECISION.
AND I THINK THAT RESONATED WITH THEM ALSO.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY DECLINED TO, UM, ENDORSED THESE LAWS IN SAYING THAT, OH, IT, IT'S THE CASE.
HE SAID, OH, WELL, TOWN STAFF COULD DO THAT.
AND THE OTHER THING WAS THAT JERRY BURNS SPOKE AND HE BASICALLY SAID HE WOULD BE BACK AFTER THEIR, UM, PARKS AND RECS BOARD HAD ANOTHER MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS.
THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING I WANTED.
I AND MIKE CHIME IN, IF YOU CAN THINK OF SOME, BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE MISSED SOMETHING HERE.
THAT NO ONE CAME OUT FROM, I DON'T KNOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE AROUND WHEN THE D E I S CAME IN TWO YEARS AGO, THERE WAS THIS ARMY OF PEOPLE WHO CAME, SOME WHO DIDN'T EVEN LIVE IN THE TOWN, WHO WERE JUST SO FOCUSED ON THE BALL
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FIELDS AND YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY COULD HAVE BUILT A, UH, AN INCINERATOR PLANT THERE SO LONG AS THEY GOT BALL FIELDS, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN HAPPY.SO, UH, THERE WAS NOBODY THERE TO SPEAK ON THAT LAST NIGHT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, BASICALLY NO ONE SPOKE, UM, IN OTHER, ANY IN, IN, IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING ON THE FLIGHT.
DO YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING, MIKE? UM, I, I'M JUST GONNA SAY NO, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF IT.
I JUST WOULD WANTED TO ADD THAT THERE MUST HAVE BEEN AT LEAST A HALF A DOZEN REFERENCES TO THE CAC.
INCLUDING ONE C A C REPORT, INCLUDING ONE THAT SOME KIND OF WORD.
SOMETHING LIKE, UH, HIGHLY REGARDED, THE HIGHLY REGARDED C A C, THE HIGHLY REGARDED CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL.
AND SO WE SHOULD ALL BE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, FEEL SOME SATISFACTION THAT THE JOB, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY DOING THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET PAID FOR THIS OR DON'T GET ANYTHING OUTTA IT.
UM, UM, AND, UH, WE ALL SHOULD FEEL SOME SATISFACTION THAT, UM, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EFFORT OF THE PEOPLE, UH, UH, ON THE C A C TAKING THIS SO SERIOUSLY AND, UH, AND DEVOTING THEIR TALENTS TO TRY TO, UH, MAKE THE TOWN BETTER.
MARGARET? UM, YOU FORGOT A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, COMMENT THAT WAS MADE BY MADELINE O'SHEA ASKING FOR A DEEDED SEARCH GOING BACK CENTURIES
SHOOT, YOU KNOW, SHOWS THE LAW
OH, UM, I, I ALSO, I I I WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, ERIC ZINGER.
HE WAS, HE, YOU KNOW, HE, HE WAS CONCISE, UM, THAT, UM, A VERY HEALTHY LOOKING BOB BERNSTEIN.
SAID WHAT ABOUT THE CA WE BETTER LOOK AT THE C A C REPORT.
UM, AND THEN I WENT OFF ON A LITTLE BIT OF A TANGENT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THE END THERE.
I THINK, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS, UM, THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS A TOPIC, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A TOPIC.
PAUL, EVEN AT THAT MEETING SAID, WE REALLY PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR TUESDAY.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS IS IF YOU WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, JUST MAKE IT PART OF THE LAW FOR SINGLE FAMILIES AND PUDS, DON'T MESS WITH YOUR ZONING CODE TO DO THIS.
JUST THE WAY YOU GET IT IN MULTI-FAMILY.
PUT IT IN THE LAW AND THEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT ISN'T DOING ANYTHING FOR YOU.
WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BARGAINING POSITION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE TOWN IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT.
SO THAT, I THINK IS GOING TO BE REALLY LOOKED AT AND, UH, TRY AND GET UP THE RIGHT NUMBERS THERE.
I THINK THINK SOME OF THE NUMBERS WERE A LITTLE BIT EXCESSIVE IN, IN WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING, AND IT WOULD MAKE PROJECTS NOT DOABLE BECAUSE OF, OF THE ECONOMICS OF THEM AT, AT SOME OF THE RATES THAT WERE BEING SUGGESTED.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, THAT ISN'T, THAT IS FAIR PERCENTAGE I DON'T THINK FOR A DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY YOU WANT THEM TO COME IN AND DEVELOP? SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? YOU WANT SOMETHING, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE DEVELOPER WANTS SOMETHING WHEN HE GETS DONE, WHICH IS A PROFIT.
SO YOU CAN'T PUT THIS IN A POSITION WHERE IT CEASES TO BE PROFITABLE.
UM, BUT I THOUGHT OVERALL THE MEETING REALLY WENT VERY WELL.
IT WASN'T, HE DIDN'T HAVE SPEAKERS.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU GET SPEAKERS THAT GO OFF ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THEY WERE REALLY ON THE TOPIC LAST NIGHT AND THEY WERE QUITE ENT THE SPEAKERS FROM, AND TERRY SAID THERE WERE SPEAKERS NOT FROM THAT COMMUNITY, FROM ALL OVER EVERYONE.
IT WAS QUITE FOCUSED AND HIGH LEVEL.
MANY, MANY PEOPLE MADE REFERENCE TO, UM, THE PROMISES MADE IN THE COMP PLAN.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE THING WITH THE COMP PLAN WAS THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS PEOPLE HAD WAS THE CHANGING OF THE NATURE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT THEY DID NOT WANT THAT SINGLE FAMILY TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD TO DISAPPEAR OR BE IMPACTED WITH THINGS THAT WEREN'T SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BASICALLY.
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THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT REALLY WAS HIGHLIGHTED BY PEOPLE.AS MARGARET SAID, ONE INTERESTING THING ABOUT MADELINE SHEA IS THAT I JUST SENT HER AN EMAIL.
'CAUSE I HAVE SEEN MAPS FROM THE SUPPOSED LOCATIONS OF THE TROOPS, THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
AND I BELIEVE I'VE SEEN THAT AREA AS BEING WHERE WASHINGTON'S TROOPS WERE.
SO I JUST SENT HER AN EMAIL TO MAYBE SHE WOULD TO GO LOOK AT THAT.
MIGHT BE A LOT MORE EASILY OBTAINABLE THAN THE DEEDS GOING BACK TO 1600.
THE FRENCH, THE FRENCH TROOPS WERE HERE, UM, AT SUNNINGDALE ALL THE WAY DOWN.
YOU KNOW, THE BROOK THAT RUNS THROUGH MY PROPERTY? THEY WERE, THEY WERE ENTRENCHED HERE.
THAT'S AT LEAST WHAT JAO SAID, YOU KNOW? AND THEN RO RO BEAU WAS RIGHT UP THE ROAD WITH WASHINGTON.
AND, AND SEE THAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE THERE.
AND IF YOU, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT TROOPS WOULD'VE BEEN ED OVER THERE BECAUSE IT'S FLAT AND THERE'S THE RUM BROOK, THERE'S WATER.
AND THEN THERE WAS, THERE WAS UP HERE, UH, TO THE, UH, UH, WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S THE SOUTH OF ME.
THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A LOOKOUT WHERE YOU COULD SEE BOTH THE HUDSON AND THE LONG ISLAND SOUND TO SEE IF THE BRITISH COME.
THERE'S SOMETHING UP THERE THAT THEY, THEY SAVED LIKE A LOOKOUT UP THERE.
THEY COULD SEE THE CITY, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY COULD SEE THE HUDSON FROM THERE TOO.
COULD YEAH, THEY COULD SEE THE HU AND THE LONG ISLAND SOUTH.
WHAT IS THAT? THEY, THEY DEVELOPED IT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
I, I THINK IT WAS, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S GREENBERG.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE ONE OPPOSITE, THE DEVELOPMENT OPPOSITE WHERE THE SHOOTING RANGE WAS.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT, WHAT WAS SUCH AN OUTRAGE.
SO MANY PEOPLE WERE SO UPSET THAT THEY WERE DOING THAT RIDGE AND THE WHOLE THING.
AS YOU COME DOWN OLEY ROAD, YOU SEE IT UP THERE PAST, YOU GO PAST THE, WHEN YOU GO PAST, UM, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, IF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL'S ON YOUR RIGHT, YOU SEE IT UP THERE.
SEE ALL THOSE HOUSES UP THERE, IT'S UP THERE.
I AM UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT'S MEETING BECAUSE I HAVE A CASE ON TRIAL AND I'VE JUST FINISHED PICKING THE JURY.
WE, I'M NOT SURE WHO WE IS, BUT I THINK IT'S THE TOWN BOARD.
WE WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH THE C A C IN AN UPCOMING WORK SESSION TO TALK ABOUT YOUR ELMWOOD FINDINGS.
THE NEXT WORK SESSION IS TUESDAY, MARCH 15TH, PROBABLY AT 5:00 PM LET ME KNOW IF THAT DATE AND TIME ARE CONVENIENT.
SO THIS SEEMS TO BE HE WOULD MEET, WANTS TO MEET WITH THE WHOLE C A C, UM, LET ME JUST CONFIRM THAT WITH HIM.
UH, WHO THEY, WHO THE WE IS, I, I ASSUMING THE WE IS, UH, CB, THE, THE TOWN BOARD BECAUSE HE SENT IT TO, OR HE JUST SENT TO THE CAC C LIST.
SO LET ME CONFIRM AND I'LL GET BACK, UH, WHO HE, WHO THEY WANNA MEET WITH.
'CAUSE THEY WANNA MEET WITH THE WHOLE C A C AND WE HAVE, UM, FI UH, WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS.
UM, SO LET, LET JUST SEE IF HE WANTS TO MEET WITH, UH, THE WHOLE C A C OR SO OR LESS THAN, UH, LESS THAN A MAJORITY.
UM, AND I, AND I'LL GET BACK TO 'EM.
UM, UM, ELLEN HENDRICKSON MENTIONED THAT, UM, EARLIER AND, UH, PAUL MENTIONED IT TO ME TODAY.
UM, AND SO I GUESS THIS IS, UH, NOW THEY'VE DISCUSSED, AND, AND SO I, I'LL GET BACK.
SO, UH, UM, SOME OR ALL OF US WILL BE MEETING, I GUESS SUPPOSED TO, WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE WHAT HE SAYS, SEE WHAT THEY WANT.
UM, MATT, ARE YOU THERE? YES, SIR.
UM, MATT, I WAS WONDERING WHETHER THERE, UH, WAS ANY RESPONSE TODAY FROM, UM, UH, BECAUSE IF IT IS, IT'S ENTITLED TO BE TOLD TO THE C A C.
UM, WAS THERE ANY RESPONSE TODAY FROM, UH, THE APPLICANT OR ANY OF THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVES TO LAST HEARING? I HAVE NOT RE UH, SEEN OR RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE FROM THE APPLICANT REGARDING, UH, LAST NIGHT'S TOWN
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BOARD MEETING.DO YOU KNOW IF THEY CALLED UP AND MADE ANY COMMENTS? I DO NOT KNOW.
UH, BECAUSE, UM, IF THEY HAD ANY, ANY, ANY COMMENTS, UH, IT WOULD BE WORTH ANALYZING.
UH, UH, IT WAS KIND OF TELLING LAST NIGHT A COUPLE THINGS THAT IT WAS SAID, I DON'T KNOW, 4, 5, 6 TIMES.
THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA FLIP THE PROPERTY.
AND AT THE END OF IT, UH, TOWN ATTORNEY TIM LEWIS ASKED WHETHER THE DEVELOPER OR THE DEVELOPER'S COUNSEL WANTED TO, UH, SAY ANYTHING.
AND OF COURSE IT WAS SAID MANY TIMES THAT, UH, GEE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE AN OPINION THAT THIS REALLY WORKS.
TAXING CONDOMINIUMS AS, I'M SORRY, TAXING, TAXING TOWNHOUSES AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, THAT THAT WOULD REALLY WORK.
UM, AND, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF IT, UH, AS TERRY SAID, THEY SAID THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT'S COUNSEL SAID HE WOULDN'T GIVE AN OPINION.
AND THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT SOME LINK AND PEOPLE BROUGHT UP CASES, UH, UM, SAYING THAT NEW YORK COURT OF APPEALS HAS SAID YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULDN'T GIVE SUCH AN OPINION.
AND, UH, UH, APPLICANT'S COUNSEL DIDN'T, UH, MAKE ANY RESPONSE.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS CONCEPT OF, UM, NO, IT WAS TOWNHOUSE, NORFOLK, I DON'T KNOW, NORFOLK HOTEL VERSUS, I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, I, I, I, I'VE GOT THE SITE IF YOU WANT IT.
I, I PUT IT IN THE NOTES OR, OR NOT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, STRIKES ME AS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IN THE BY LOT TICKET TYPE OF, UH, RANGE OF, UH, PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS.
BUT ANYWAY, WHEN APPLICANT'S COUNSEL DOESN'T, UH, IN, IN THE, WELL I USED TO LIVE IN, IF THE APPLICANT'S COUNSEL, UH, WON'T STAND BEHIND WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT KIND OF JUST KINDA IS A SHOWSTOPPER, YOU KNOW, SO MM-HMM.
SO I WON'T TRY TO CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
UH, WHO, WHO WANTS TO MEET WITH WHO.
AND ANYWAY, IT, IT, WHOEVER WANTS TO MEET WITH SOME PEOPLE, IT'S AT FIVE O'CLOCK ON TUESDAY.
AND I ASSUME THE MEETING WOULD BE ZOOM, BUT IT WASN'T SAID IN KEN'S, UH, EMAIL.
I JUST TELL YOU, THE ONLY WAY I COULD DO IT WOULD BE ZOOM.
WELL, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
AND I THINK ALSO ON TUESDAY, WE ALL RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM LIZ THAT THERE IS A ZOOM MEETING, UH, TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE ENERGY SAVING ALTERNATIVES.
I BELIEVE SHE SENT THAT EMAIL TO EVERYBODY.
IF SOMEONE REALLY WANTS TO INDULGE A MEETING OVERLOAD
UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE HAD TONIGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET TO IT, STEPHANIE, BUT YOU WERE GONNA FIND OUT WHAT, UM, AND YOU'RE MUTED, STEPHANIE.
YEAH, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO BRING THAT UP ACTUALLY.
UM, SO I EMAILED, UH, BOTH MY PRINCIPAL, MY SUPERINTENDENT, AND UH, UH, VICE SUPERINTENDENT FOR EDGEMONT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND, UM, UH, 10 DAYS AGO THEY REPLIED BACK FILING.
AND THEY TOLD ME, UH, LET ME JUST READ OFF THE MESSAGE.
UH, THEY TOLD ME TO, UM, THEY TOLD ME BASICALLY THE HEAD OF THE, UM, LUNCH AND CAFETERIA AND FOOD SERVICES FOR EDGEMONT DISTRICT IS OUT CURRENTLY IN THAT THEY'LL BE KEEPING CONTACT WITH ME.
'CAUSE THEY DO THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
UM, I JUST EMAILED THEM BACK ACTUALLY, LIKE, UM, TWO HOURS AGO.
SO HOPEFULLY I GET TO HEAR WHEN, UH, THEY'LL BE BACK OR NOT.
BUT I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO DOING IT ALSO WITH THE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO SEE IN THE AREA, LIKE LEY OR THE GREENBERG SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
SO WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH NOW FOR ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES, UH, AN EVENING WHERE WE'RE NOT DESPERATELY TRYING TO SQUEEZE EVERYTHING IN, WHICH IS SORT OF NICE 'CAUSE IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SUGGEST STUFF OR WE CAN START TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WILL BE DOING.
I KNOW, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE OUTSTANDING, WHICH GEORGE AND NANCY
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AND LIZ, I THINK WE'RE WORKING ON, AND SHOULD, WE PROBABLY SHOULD TRY AND WORK ON THAT IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE TOWN, IS ENVIRONMENTAL RECOMMENDATIONS.I, I HAVE SOMETHING I CAN ADD.
UH, IT'S NOT OF, OF GREAT VALUE, BUT I ATTENDED A, A WEBINAR, UH, UH, RECENTLY ON WHAT I THOUGHT MIGHT LEAD US TO, UH, SUGGESTIONS FOR, UH, MAKING CHANGES TO THE LAW AND CONSTRUCTION.
AND IT WASN'T VERY, IT WAS A GOOD WEBINAR.
UM, AND IT WAS ON, UH, NEW HOME BUILDING PROCESSES AND, UH, TURNED OUT TO BE MORE OF A, A GREAT COURSE ON CHEMISTRY.
THEY WERE DISCUSSING, UH, CHEMICAL SENSITIVITY, UH, TO PRODUCTS THAT ARE USED IN NEW CONSTRUCTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT WE FOLLOW IT ANY, ANY FURTHER DOWN THE DOWN THE ROAD, BUT I'M, I'M TRYING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, PICK UP THE PIECES ON THAT.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN SITTING FOR A LITTLE WHILE THERE, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF OTHER SEMINARS, HOWEVER, THAT, UH, I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN AND IT MIGHT, MIGHT GIVE US MORE VALUE.
BUT, UH, AS A JUNIOR MEMBER OF THE C A C, I'M NOT SURE THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WOULD WANNA SEND ME TO PARIS
WE'RE TRYING TO WADE THROUGH IT RIGHT NOW.
AND I, I HADN'T, I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH, UH, WITH NANCY E ABOUT, AND THERE REALLY WASN'T MUCH, UH, MUCH VALUE TO ADD.
UH, THE, UH, WEBINARS I'VE BEEN ATTENDING, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST PICKING UP ON, ARE SHOWING, UH, MORE, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO DO HOME IMPROVEMENTS OR WHAT PRODUCTS MANUFACTURERS SHOULD BE USING AS THEY GO ABOUT THEIR, THEIR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTIONS.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ON POINT FOR WHAT YOU'VE ASKED US TO DO.
SO FOR WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.
BUT I, I WANNA ASK, WAS THAT SEMINAR IN PARIS ALSO BEING OFFERED IN HO HOGAN
YOU CAN PICK UP ON THAT IF YOU'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THE, THE PARIS SUMMIT IS, IS THE SEMINAR IN PARIS GOING TO BE ON THE, ON THE, UH, UH, ZOOMABLE ON, ON THE, ON THE WEB? UH, DO YOU KNOW GEORGE? SERIOUSLY? I I DOUBT IT.
IT WAS, UH, IT LOOKED LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RUB SHOULDERS WITH, UH, UH, OTHER CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES AND, UH, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE OFFERING, YOU KNOW, SPECIALIZED SERVICES TO THEIR, TO THEIR INDUSTRY.
I THREW IT OUT AS A, AS A POINT OF HUMOR, BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO GO, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO.
JUDY CALLS, RIGHT GEORGE, RIGHT? GEORGE IS SO GOOD ABOUT, WITH HIS TIME AND HIS EFFORT, HE'S WILLING TO GO TO PARIS FOR US
SO I THINK PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ON HERE IS, UM, EITHER DORMANT OR PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED ARE NOT HERE.
I KNOW, UM, I GUESS WE SORT OF, AGAIN, WITH THE INVASIVE PLANTS, UM, STEPHANIE AND, UM, SHARON, WERE KIND OF WORKING ON THAT.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE WE WANNA CONTINUE TO LOOK AT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS AN AREA OF CONCERN IN OUR TOWN.
UM, ANYTIME YOU ENTER AN ANTHONY VETERANS PARK, I ABSOLUTELY WANNA, WE, WITH THE AMOUNT OF VINES AND THE WETLANDS THERE, IT'S JUST REALLY SAD.
I I THINK THAT WOULD TAKE LIKE SOME SORT OF YOUTH CORPS OR SOMETHING TO BE IN THERE THE WHOLE SUMMER PULLING VINES TO GET RID OF THEM.
UM, AND I, WITH THAT, I THROW IT OUT TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
IS THERE SOMETHING ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE US TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT? UM, I, I WAS GONNA ASK MATT ONE THING, MATT, DO YOU KNOW THE, UH, STATUS OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT INITIATIVE THAT THE TOWN IS, UH, DOING THROUGH THE, UH, UH, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT, UH, UH, DEREK, I MEAN, GARRETT, UH, SPOKE TO US ABOUT, UH, UH, ON MAYBE A MONTH OR SO AGO.
UM, I KNOW THAT HE WAS IN, TALK TO SOMEONE ABOUT TRYING TO GET SOME GRANT FUNDING, UH, FOR SOME STORMWATER, UH, RELATED CLEANUP, UH, MOST LIKELY AROUND FOUR CORNERS AREA.
BUT I AM UNSURE OF THE STATUS OF THAT POINT.
UM, I DID HAVE, IF THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE, I DID WANT TO BRING UP WHAT, UH, LIZ HAD EMAILED YOU GUYS, UH, ABOUT THAT CLEAN ENERGY COMMUNITIES PROGRAM.
SO, UH, LIZ HAS BEEN WORKING WITH AARON AND I, UH, MOSTLY
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AARON REALLY, UM, TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR A CLEAN ENERGY COMMUNITY, UM, WEBINAR, UH, FOR ENERGY SMART HOMES, AND, UH, LIKE UPGRADING THE HEATING AND COOLING IN HOMES TO BE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT AND GREEN AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.AND, UH, WE'RE REALLY PUSHING TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR THE WEBINAR.
IT'S ON TUESDAY, MARCH 15TH AT 7:00 PM UH, IF MY COMPUTER WILL ALLOW IT, I'D LIKE TO SHARE THE SCREEN FOR WHO IS THE SPONSOR.
IS IT NEW YORK STATE? IS IT NI NYSERDA, UH, SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER.
UH, AND, UH, I BELIEVE NYSERDA IS ALSO INVOLVED, BUT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER'S THE ONE REALLY PUSHING FORWARD FOR IT.
THIS IS A LITTLE FLYER FOR IT.
UM, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, I BELIEVE LIZ SENT OUT THE LINK FOR IT IN AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY.
UM, PLEASE, UH, SIGN UP AND IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED, WHO, UH, RESIDES IN THE TOWN, UH, PLEASE FORWARD IT ALONG TO THEM AS WELL.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE MORE, THE BETTER.
AND IT'LL HELP SECURE SOME GRANT FUNDING FOR THE TOWN AS WELL.
MATT, DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO BE REGULAR ZOOM OR IS IT GOING TO BE THAT STRANGE THING THAT THEY HAD WHEN THEY DID THE MEETING OF THE CACS, UM, ABOUT A WEEK AGO, WHICH HAD AVATAR LITTLE AVATARS AND IT WAS PRETTY CLUDGY.
UM, I CAN'T SAY I KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE GONNA DO IT.
UM, IT'S A WEBINAR WHICH, UH, AND THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY CAN.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S GONNA BE A REGULAR ZOOM IF I HAD TO GUESS.
BECAUSE IF SOMEONE DOES AND THEY USE THIS OTHER THING, JUST, JUST BEAR WITH IT BECAUSE IT TAKES THEM A TIME TO LOG EVERYBODY IN AND YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS WITH YOUR LITTLE AVATAR AND MOVE AROUND.
IS IT WEBEX? I'M SORRY? IS IT WEBEX THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE PRODUCT WAS.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS THAT, BUT IT WAS A WEIRD LITTLE PRODUCT.
I MEAN, MICROSOFT TEAMS, NO, IT WASN'T TEAMS. IT WAS NOTHING.
IT WAS NOTHING LIKE WHAT I, IT WAS, YOU HAD, YOU HAD, YOU HAD YOU, YOU GOT A LITTLE AVATAR THAT WAS YOU, AND THEN WHEN YOU WANTED TO LISTEN TO SOMETHING, YOU HAD TO ARROW HIM OVER
AND IT, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS A CLERGY WAY TO DO THINGS.
I MEAN, IT PROBABLY AS MERIT, BUT IF YOU'RE HAVING PEOPLE COME ON WHO DON'T USE THIS REGULARLY, IT WAS NOT, UM, THE MOST USER-FRIENDLY PRODUCT.
THERE WERE, I MEAN, AT ONE POINT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SELECT THE GROUP YOU WERE GONNA TALK TO AND THEN GO TO THE TABLE.
YOU HAD TO BRING YOUR LITTLE GUY OVER TO THE TABLE AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE FIVE, 10 MINUTES INTO THE DISCUSSION AND THERE WERE STILL PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THEIR LITTLE, LITTLE PEOPLE OVER TO THE TABLE TO JOIN US.
SO, UM, OH, HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST A HEADS UP IN CASE YOU
BUT I THINK FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS, UM, FOR PEOPLE WHO HADN'T USED IT BEFORE, IT WAS A BIT OF A, I THINK FOR SOME PEOPLE QUITE A BIT OF A CHALLENGE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE, JUST THE TIME IT TOOK TO DO EVERYTHING.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THAT, BUT THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD THING TO FIND OUT WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED.
HOW DOES THE TOWN GET THE MONEY? DON'T WE GET A GRANT ON THIS? IF WE CAN GET A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO SIGN UP? YEAH, WE NEED SOME ACTUALLY LIKE RIDICULOUSLY LOW NUMBER, LIKE 10, MAYBE FIVE EVEN PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR IT FROM THE TOWN.
UM, AND THEN THAT CAN GET US, I BELIEVE IT'S FIVE GRAND, UM, FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO, UM, LIKE HOME HEATING AND COOLING AND THINGS OF THAT FOR THE TOWN.
YOU WOULD THINK, AND I REALLY HOPE WE CAN.
UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT SORT OF ENGAGEMENT IN THESE KINDS OF PROGRAMS HAS BEEN NOTORIOUSLY LOW.
YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR THINGS LIKE THIS, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMED IT WOULD SAVE THEM MONEY AND, UH, ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT IT'S JUST HOW IT IS.
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BUT I KNOW SOMETIMES SOMETHING NEEDS A CRITICAL MASS OR IT JUST HAPPENS.I NOTICED THAT TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE PUT THE SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR HOUSES.
AND THAT'S
THAT HELPED SECURE, UM, A GRANT FOR THE TOWN AS WELL, GETTING ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR THAT.
UH, IT, YOU KNOW, THIS PROGRAM WILL BE, UH, SIMILARLY SUCCESSFUL.
UH, ARE THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DO, ARE THEY LARGE SCALE OR ARE THEY SMALL SCALE? UH, ITEMS SMALL.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE VERY, IT'S VERY LARGE AT ALL.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S REALLY ABOUT IF THEY WANT, IF PEOPLE WANT TO CHANGE OUT, LIKE THEIR HEATER, THEIR BOILER, UH, THEIR COOLING SYSTEM IN THEIR HOMES, I SUPPOSE CAN BE LARGE SCALE, DEPENDING ON THE HOME AND HOW IT'S SET UP.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON.
SO IF YOU HAVE LIKE A SMALL BOILER, IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE COMES IN IN AN AFTERNOON, TAKES IT OUT AND INSTALLS IT, INSTALLS THE NEW ONE, THE CLEANER ONE.
UM, BUT I SUPPOSE IF YOUR HOME IS LIKE OLDER OR IF YOU HAVE MORE COMPLICATED SYSTEM, IT CAN BE MORE DIFFICULT.
I DON'T, I'M NOT A HOMEOWNER, SO I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TOO MUCH ON, UH, DIFFICULTIES ASSOCIATED WITH HOME HEATING AND COOLING.
BUT, UH, IMAGINE IT'D BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I, I, I THINK THIS MAY BE A REPEAT OF, UM, THE PROGRAM THAT THEY HAD A FEW MONTHS AGO.
AND, UM, I ATTENDED THE WEBINAR.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A REPEAT OF THE SAME PROGRAM.
WAS IT, WAS IT GOOD ALFRED? DID YOU FIND IT WAS VERY GOOD.
AND THERE WERE THREE HOMEOWNERS THAT CAME FROM AND RELATED THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.
AND THEN THERE WERE SOME BUSINESSES THERE THAT, UH, PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM.
UH, IT WASN'T, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT MY NOTES, UNFORTUNATELY, I DID NOT WRITE THE DATES, SO LIKE ME, UM, BUT I'M LOOKING AT MY NOTES.
UM, IT WAS ADVERTISED JUST LIKE THIS.
AND I THINK IT WAS DONE ALSO BECAUSE I'M WRITING HERE WESTCHESTER SUSTAINABLE OVER HERE ON MY, IN MY NOTES.
IT GETS US AWARE OF WHAT'S OUT THERE.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE COME IN, UM, WITH THEIR APPLICATIONS THAT WE SEE FOR WETLANDS, SOMETIMES THINGS IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THIS? OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, AS WE GO TOWARDS THIS IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY TRYING TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND JUST IN TERMS OF ALL CONSTRUCTION, BUT EVEN IN TERMS OF WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY'RE DOING REMODELING OR ADDING ON, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE A SEGUE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED YOU COULD DO THIS OR YOU COULD DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, AS WE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S OUT THERE.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR TONIGHT? I HAVE A QUESTION.
I KNOW WE, UM, APPROVED THE MEETINGS, BUT WHAT WAS THE DATE OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT, THOSE MINUTES? UH, IT WAS NEARLY ONE SET OF MINUTES AND IT WAS FEBRUARY 24TH MINUTES 2 24.
AND THEN MATT, THE APPLICATION THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS ON, DOES IT HAVE LIKE A APPLICATION? IS IT, IT'S PB TB SOMETHING, RIGHT? DO YOU HAVE IT'S TB 1802.
THAT'S KIND OF SCARY THAT YOU, YOU MEAN THE ONE LAST NIGHT? YEAH.
SO JUST SO I CAN REFERENCE IT IN THE MINUTES.
SO WE, NEXT MEETING IS WHEN, UH, THAT'S, UM, IS UH, MARCH 24TH.
WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE INVERT.
I'LL HAVE TO SEE IF WE HAVE TO BE IN PERSON.
I'D LIKE TO BE IN THE BIG MAIN ROOM.
I DON'T THINK I WANNA BE LOCKED UP IN THAT LITTLE BACK ROOM WITH, WITH ALL OF US SNEEZING ON YOU.
I, I SAY I DON'T WANNA SNEEZE ON ANYBODY ELSE.
I MEAN, I'M GONNA GET ON AIRPLANE THIS WEEKEND, SO I DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN I COME BACK I GET SHOULD KEEP, KEEP MY MASK ON FOR A FEW DAYS MAD.
WHAT DO YOU HEAR MATT, ABOUT, UH, THE CHANGE IN THE, IS IT A PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE LAW TO, UH, NO LONGER ALLOW ZOOM? DO YOU HEAR ANYTHING? IT WOULD BE A LAPSE IN THE EXECUTIVE ORDER, WHICH IS WHAT WOULD HEARD IT.
UH, I KNOW LIKE OUR DAVID FREE, LIKE HE'S BEEN REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE THAT HE KNOWS IN ALBANY.
UM, AND HE'S ASKED PAUL TO SEND LETTERS TO PEOPLE IN ALBANY ASKING AND
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OUR LEGISLATURE REPRESENTATIVES TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT PERMANENT.BUT IT JUST HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
AND IT'S, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT IT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE, UH, EXECUTIVE ORDER RUNS OUT.
SO, LIKE I SAID, THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WILL EITHER BE EXTENDED OR IT WILL END AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO IN FIRST.
DO, DO YOU KNOW MATT, UH, WHEN, UM, THE ACTIVE ORDER RUNS OUT, I BELIEVE MARCH, THAT RINGS A BELL.
THAT SOUNDS THAT, THAT, YEAH, THAT, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, I DON'T HAVE NEXT TUESDAY WHEN WE'RE SOUNDS RIGHT TO ME.
I THINK I REMEMBER THAT MARCH 15TH OF MARCH.
IT'S ONLY LIKE TWO OR THREE DAYS BEFORE THE LAST MINUTE
BUT THE PAST COUPLE OF TIMES THEY'VE DONE IT, YOU KNOW, THE DAY OR TWO BEFORE.
UH, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA GET IN TOUCH WITH TOM AND ASK HIM IF HE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.
IF I FIND OUT ANYTHING, I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
I, I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS ATTRACTIVE ABOUT THIS, THIS METHOD OF MEETING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR MEMBERS WHO WORK, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF THE BURDEN OF TRYING TO GET THE TOWN HALL OFF OF PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW? AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE LOSING THAT MUCH BY MEETING THIS WAY.
UM, AND I THINK THERE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT WHEN WE HAVE APPLICATIONS, BUT WE'VE NOW DONE IT FOR TWO YEARS.
IT DOESN'T SEEM AS DIFFICULT AS IT DID IN THE BEGINNING.
I BETTER ASK, UM, KEN, IF THERE'S A TUESDAY WORK SESSION THAT THEY WANT SOME ALL OF THE C A C TO COME TO, IS THAT GOING TO BE IN PERSON OR, UM, OR ZOOM? BECAUSE UH, KNOWING IN THE WORLD, MARGARET COULD BE THERE IN PERSON.
'CAUSE SHE'S GOT A, SHE'S IN THE CITY WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH HER, UH, YOU KNOW, AT U B S, RIGHT MARGARET? YEAH, I, SO I HAVE A FOUR 15 MEETING, SO I WAS THINKING THAT IF I LEFT MY OFFICE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON, I COULD COME HOME AND DO MY FOUR 15 ZOOM.
I COULD POTENTIALLY BE THERE AT FIVE, BE A TOWN, BE A TOWN HALL AT FIVE.
I, UH, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO CUT MY DAY IN HALF ON TUESDAY.
AND I'M NOT SURE I CAN DO THAT NOW, BUT I, I LIKE, IF, IF, IF I COULD DO IT ZOOM, I CAN DO IT ZOOM FROM THE TRAIN, I COULD DO IT ZOOM ANYWHERE.
LET, LEMME TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT THE FACTS ARE FROM, UM OKAY.
I MEAN, IF I JUST DO THE AUDIO, I CAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD MATT.
IT'S GOOD TO, MATT RAISED THAT, 'CAUSE I'VE GOTTEN ABOUT THAT MYSELF.
JUST SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE A MEETING ON, ON TUESDAY.
I'M GONNA BE WORKING LATE THAT NIGHT.
COULD YOU DO A ZOOM? IF IT'S A ZOOM? I HAVE A SUBMISSION DEADLINE ON WEDNESDAY.
SO IT'S NOT WHO, WHO THEY WANT AND THE FORMAT.
SO THE, THE QUESTIONS I NEED TO ASK, UH, KEN, OR, UM, OR THE QUESTIONS I NEED TO ASK KEN OR YOU KNOW, WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO THEY WANT EVERYONE OR JUST A FEW.
DO THEY WANT A REAL FORMAL MEETING OR JUST A FEW? AND THEN WHAT IS THE FORMAT? I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT, WHAT THEIR MAIN QUESTIONS ARE.
THEN, YOU KNOW, WHO SHOULD GO, YOU KNOW.
AND I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, TERRY'S KICKED OFF THE MEETING BY SAYING, UM, IT WAS A, A, A TEAM EFFORT.
BUT MIKE, YOU AND TERRY, UM, YOU ARE JUST SUCH, YOU'RE SUCH AN INSPIRATION TO THE REST OF US AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION, YOUR DILIGENCE.
UM, IT, IT'S REALLY QUITE SOMETHING AND I REALLY BOTH THANK YOU BOTH.
I REALLY WANNA SINGLE OUT MIKE.
'CAUSE MIKE DOES THE, THE BULK OF THAT WRITING AND IT'S, IT'S ONE THING TO EDIT AND COMMENT AND FILL IN.
MIKE'S THE ONE WHO, WHO ACTUALLY CRUNCHES OUT OUT THE DOCUMENT IN THE, IT'S THE BEST.
IT IT A PLEASURE WORKING WITH EVERYONE ON THE, AND WE DO IT FOR, BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW,
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COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S IT.I THINK DINNER RECORD MEETING FOR US WAS A GOOD NIGHT TO DO MINUTES.
MIKE IS GONNA BE EDITING ME FOR A WEEK.
THIS IS A MEETING THAT SAYS WE MET AND IT WAS ADJOURNED.