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FOR, UH, WORK SESSION.AND SOME OF US ARE PARTICIPATING, UH, REMOTELY.
UM, YEAH, I GUESS YOU COULD, JANELLE, COULD YOU TURN UP THE AUDIO IN THE AUDITORIUM, PLEASE? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR BRADY.
SO, SO, UM, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, UM, THE, THE C L A PLACE ISSUES.
I SPOKE TO, UH,
THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND, UM, MAKE SENSE TO, UH, UH, PUT EVERY, THE VOTE ON HOLD RIGHT NOW TO HOLD THE COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND ALSO TO, UH, SEE, UM, FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TO, UH, PUT A SIDEWALK ON, YOU KNOW, BOTH ROB AND HILL AND MOUNT JOY, WHICH IS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD WANT, THAT WOULD ENABLE, UM, CHILDREN AND PEDESTRIANS TO WALK, UM, SAFELY, UH, FROM THAT SECTION OF, UM, YOU KNOW, OLD EDGEMONT, UH, TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND TO THE CEILING PLACE SCHOOL.
SO, UM, I MENTIONED TO NICK THAT IT WASN'T NECESSARY FOR HIM TO, YOU KNOW, ATTEND THE MEETING.
SO HE CAN, UM, GIVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE AREA.
SOON AS YOU FINISH YOUR STATEMENT, THEN WE'LL ALLOW RICK TO, UH, UM, SERGEANT RICKSON TO SPEAK.
PAUL, YOU HAVE TO OPEN THE MEETING.
IT IS, UH, APRIL, UH, 12TH AND IT'S ALMOST FIVE O'CLOCK.
SO DO YOU WANNA GIVE YOUR, YOUR, UM, SYNOPSIS, SYNOPSIS OF, OF YOUR FEELING ON THE TABLE? HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT EMAILS AND, YES.
SO YOU ARE ABREAST EVERYTHING.
SO, STARTING BACK IN 2014 WHEN I ASSUMED THE ROLE OF COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE TRAFFIC UNIT, WE HAVE BEEN CONTINUOUSLY MEETING WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ITSELF.
UM, THE PRINCIPAL, VICE PRINCIPAL TEACHERS, AS WELL AS PARENTS.
YOU KNOW, WE WOULD DO WALK TO SCHOOL DAYS AND JUST IN GENERAL, WE WOULD JUST MEET PROBABLY SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEARS SINCE THEN.
UM, MORE RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED ON A PROJECT WHERE WE INSTALLED A SIDEWALK FROM SEALY PLACE DOWN TO LEY ROAD, ENHANCED THAT CROSSWALK ON ARDSLEY AT SEALY.
AND THEN MOST RECENTLY, IN JUST CONVERSATIONS WITH PUBLIC WORKS, IT COMES OUT, TURNS OUT THAT THEY HAD FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DO A SHORT SECTION OF SIDEWALK.
SINCE THIS SECTION OF ROBIN HILL, BETWEEN MOUNT JOY AND HENRY HAS ALWAYS BEEN PROBLEMATIC.
WE IDENTIFIED THAT AS A LOCATION, UM, NEEDING THE SIDEWALK, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO DO THAT.
THE ROADWAY, WHEN WE MEASURED THE ROADWAY, THE ROADWAY'S TOO NARROW TO ALLOW FOR A SIDEWALK AND TWO-WAY TRAFFIC.
THE FRONT YARDS OF THE HOMES ON ROBIN HILL ARE TOO SHALLOW TO ALLOW FOR US TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO FIVE FEET OF THEIR FRONT LAWN TO THEN INSTALL A SIDEWALK.
SO THE BEST OPTION WAS TO CONVERT THE ROADWAY INTO A A ONE-WAY.
UM, IN MEETING WITH THE ENGINEERING, UM, CONSULTANT GROUP FOR SEALY PLACE SCHOOL, WELL, ACTUALLY IT'S ALL THREE SCHOOLS FOR THE EDGEMONT DISTRICT.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO IDENTIFY CERTAIN TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT COULD BE CHANGED TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING.
UM, SO THEY TRIED, THEY HAD A TEST OR A PILOT PROGRAM WHERE THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW, UM, TEACHERS TO PARK IN THE REAR LOT, AND THEY PARKED ON ROBIN HILL.
AND THAT CREATED A, A NIGHTMARE BECAUSE AT, AT PICKUP TIME, THE CARS WERE JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THEY COULD NOT GET THROUGH THE STREET.
SO THEY'VE ABANDONED THAT PILOT PROGRAM AND HAVE RESUMED PARKING ON CAMPUS AGAIN.
UM, WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING, WE CREATED A NETWORK OF ONE-WAY ROADS, MOUNT JOY, BOTH ENDS OF ROBIN HILL, NORTH AND SOUTH OF MOUNT JOY, UM, TO BE ONE WAYS.
AND IN DOING THAT, YOU CREATE A MORE WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
'CAUSE WHAT WE FIND IS THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SEAL PLACE SCHOOL HAS ABOUT 530 STUDENTS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF WALKERS.
'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE CLOSE BY.
UM, THE SCHOOL DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HAVE ALL THE VEHICLES OFF, OFF THE ROADWAYS.
SO THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO DESIGN, UH, DESIGN A NETWORK OF ROADS ON THEIR PROPERTY BY TAKE WIDENING SEALY PLACE IN PARTS OF HENRY STREET, IF ALLOWABLE.
BUT THE SHORT TERM, TO GET THE SIDEWALK IN PLACE, WE WANTED TO CONVERT THE SECTION OF ROBIN HILL TO A ONE WAY.
THE NETWORK OF ONE WAYS WOULD THEN ALSO REDUCE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC VOLUME.
WE DID A RECENT TRAFFIC COUNT FOR MOUNT JOY AND FOUND THAT IT'S ABOUT 810 CARS
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PER DAY ON AVERAGE.WE'LL TRAVEL, UM, IN THE MIDBLOCK SECTION OF, OF MOUNT JOY HENRY STREET IS ABOUT 700 VEHICLES A DAY.
AND BOTH ARE BELOW, TRAVELING BELOW TO POSTED SPEED LIMIT ALL THE VEHICLES.
NOW, IN COMPARISON, CENTRAL AVENUE IS 25,000 VEHICLES A DAY OLD ARMIES 4,000, AND ARDSLEY ROAD IS 14,000.
SO THERE, IT'S NOT REALLY THAT THEY'RE USING MOUNT JOY AS A CUT THROUGH.
SO WE WEREN'T, WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT BY MAKING A ONE WAY, IT WOULD BE INCREASING VOLUME AS A CUT THROUGH.
SO SOME, SOME RESIDENTS, SOME RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED THAT BY MAKING THE ROADWAY A ONE WAY WOULD THEN WIDEN A TRAVEL LANE, THUS POSSIBLY INCREASING SPEED.
AND THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.
UM, WE DO SEE THAT THE WIDER A TRAVEL LANE IS, PEOPLE TEND TO DRIVE FASTER BECAUSE IT'S, THEY'RE CONCENTRATING LESS ON NAVIGATING, UH, A NARROW ROADWAY.
SO YOU CAN SEE, I MEAN, MOUNT JOY ITSELF, AT SOME POINTS, IT'S ONLY 17, 18 FEET WIDE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SOME CURVES IN THERE THAT ARE KIND OF BLIND CURVES.
UM, SO YOU CAN NARROW THE ROAD, YOU ALLOW PARKING LANES, BUT YOU COULD ALSO NARROW THE ROAD USING, UM, STRIPING.
SO WE CAN NARROW A LANE, MAKING IT ONE WAY AND ALMOST CREATING, NOT A SIDEWALK RIGHT AWAY, BUT IT'S JUST A WALKING A SHOULDER ENHANCEMENT TO ALLOW A WALKING AREA.
BUT IT WOULDN'T BE A PROTECTED SIDEWALK RIGHT NOW.
SO, AND ALSO WAS THE, COULD YOU DISCUSS THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY UNDER, THEY'VE CURRENTLY WENT TO BOND FOR, UM, ALL THREE OF THE SCHOOLS, THE HIGH SCHOOL, GREENVILLE AND SEALY.
AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED AT EACH LOCATION, UM, ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE, AND THROUGH DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR PROPERTIES, THEY'D BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF THEIR TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
WE SEE THAT BACK UP ONTO OUR LOCAL ROADS.
AND THEY WOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE SCHOOL'S PROPERTY BACK IN THE, I WANNA SAY 92 OR THREE EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL, BUILT A SECOND GYM, TOOK AWAY, YOU KNOW, 80 PARKING SPACES, BUT NEVER PUT THEM BACK ANYWHERE.
SO THE JUNIORS, AS THEY TURN 16, ARE NOW PARKING ON OUR STREETS.
SO THEY TAKE A TWO-WAY STREET CONVERTED INTO A ONE-WAY ROAD JUST BY SHEER VOLUME OF VEHICLES ON IT.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THOUGH, WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, THIS, THIS KIND OF IS, IS IN LINE WITH SOME OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS MOUNT, UH, ROBIN HILL BEING A ONE WAY AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL.
UM, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS IN STAGES, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE NETWORK OF ONE WAYS, IT MAKES SENSE THAT ROBIN HILL AND, AND BOTH ENDS OF ROBIN HILL ARE ONE WAYS GOING AWAY FROM MOUNT JOY.
IF THERE'S A STAGE, COULD YOU MENTION HOW, LIKE A STAGE OPTION, WHAT YOU COULD, UM, BE COMFORTABLE WITH? UH, SO THE FIRST STAGE IS TO MAKE ROBIN HILL.
I WANNA SAY IT'S MAYBE IT'S A 600 FOOT SECTION BETWEEN MOUNT JOY AND HENRY.
MAKE IT A ONE WAY, UH, DIRECTION OF TRAVEL TO BE DETERMINED SO WE CAN INSTALL THE SIDEWALK, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND, UH, YESTERDAY WHEN WE WERE TALKING, I'M SORRY THAT I'M MONOPOLIZING.
UM, UM, YESTERDAY WHEN WE WERE TALKING, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, WE, THAT MAYBE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, ON SITE SO THEY CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
AND THEN WE WOULD VOTE AFTER THE MEETING.
IT, IT SEEMS THAT MANY OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS MIGHT NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND, UM, THE IMPACT OF THE PLAN.
UM, THE SECTION OF MOUNT JOY BETWEEN OLD ARMY AND I, I'M GONNA CALL IT ROBIN HILL EAST.
WE IMPLEMENTED, WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT THAT AS A ONE WAY ONLY, BUT MANY PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE KEPT TWO WAYS.
SO THEY CAN STILL GET TO COME OUT AND GET TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO SERVE CREATING NOW ROBIN HILL, IF YOU COME UP FROM CENTRAL AVENUE, YOU CAN MAKE ON LEFT ON ROBIN HILL, CONTINUE AROUND, AND THEN OUT MOUNT JOY ONTO OLD ARMY, THUS CREATING A THROUGH ROAD ON MOUNT ON ROBIN HILL AND ROBIN HILL, NORTH OF MOUNT JOY SHOULD NOT BE TWO WAY THROUGH ROAD, BUT THERE WAS, WAS A PROPOSAL FOR, SORRY, PAUL, JUST A MOMENT.
THERE WAS A PROPOSAL FOR IT TO GO FROM TWO WAY TO ONE WAY MM-HMM.
AND THEN YOU SAID AS LONG AS THE SITE OBSTRUCTIONS WERE TAKEN CARE OF IT WAY.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU, WHEN WE LOOK AT IT FURTHER, YES.
IT, IT, IT DOES HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR PEOPLE TO USE IT AS A THROUGH ROAD, ALTHOUGH THEY MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT JUST BECAUSE IT, IT IS NARROW AND IT'S, IT'S MORE TIME CONSUMING.
IT'S GONNA BE QUICKER TO GO TO OLD ARM, UH, HENRY STREET WHERE YOU HIT OLD ARMY WITH A STOP SIGN.
SO IS IT BACK TO BEING ONE WAY? I THINK THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION WE SHOULD MAKE, ESPECIALLY WHEN MEETING IN THE FIELD.
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AND IT'S VERY, 'CAUSE WE CHANGED IT FROM TWO WAY TO ONE WAY, UH, ONE WAY TO TWO WAY MM-HMM.BUT NOW WE'RE GETTING EMAILS SAYING, YOU KNOW, ON, EVEN THOUGH WE ASKED FOR IT TO BE A ONE WAY, ONE WAY, UH, IT'S, IT, NO, I'M SORRY.
UH, EVEN THOUGH WE ASKED FOR IT TO BE TWO WAY, I THINK SOME ARE SAYING MAYBE IT SHOULD BE A ONE WAY WE'RE GETTING, WELL, OUR INITIAL, OUR INITIAL PROPOSAL WAS TO MAKE IT A ONE WAY RIGHT THROUGH THAT WE HAD THAT ZOOM MEETING RIGHT.
UM, SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TO MAKE THAT CONTINUE THAT SMALL SECTION.
SO SOME PARENTS CAN COME OUT AND GO TO THE EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THAT'S WHERE BY VIRTUE OF DOING THAT, IT WOULD, ROBIN HILL WOULD BE CONCEIVABLY BE A THROUGH ROAD.
BUT THE, BUT THE CAVEAT TO THAT WAS YOU HAD TO TAKE CARE OF SITE.
SO YES, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A RESIDENT, A HOUSE AT 2 37 OLD ARMY AT THE RIGHT AT THE CORNER.
I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE NEW, NEW OWNERS.
AND THEY HAVE A, A LARGE ROW OF ORNAMENTAL TREES, WHICH WOULD ALL HAVE TO COME OUT.
AND DIDN'T THEY AGREE TO DO THAT? DID I READ THAT? I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW WE MARTINO, UH, FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.
WELL IT, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THEIR PROPERTY TECHNICALLY.
WE, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE YEAH.
HOW FAR IT EXTENDS INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
'CAUSE THAT OFTEN, 'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THE ROADS, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT OF WAY IS VERY NARROW.
I, I LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IN A SIMILAR, A COUPLE OF SIMILAR SITUATIONS IN ONE OF THE MUNICIPALITIES, UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE TOOK LIBERTIES AND BUILT OUT AND PLANTED CLOSER TO THE STREET WHEN REALLY IT WAS VILLAGE PROPERTY.
SO THAT, THAT COULD BE MY, MY QUESTION TOO, IS THERE, CAN YOU DO A TRIAL FOR A SEVERAL MONTH PERIOD? I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S INVOLVED REALLY JUST TO, UM, MAYBE HAVE SOMETHING FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE EFFICACY OF THE, OF IT, AND THE PEOPLE CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS.
SO I THINK A PILOT PROGRAM IS A PILOT.
A PILOT PROGRAM MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU HAVE THE MEETING MM-HMM.
AND ALSO LET THE RESIDENTS FEEL WHAT IT'S LIKE AND HOW IT IMPACTS THEM.
BASICALLY GOING TO HAVE A VERY SMALL WINDOW FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
BECAUSE THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON TWO MEETINGS AGO.
THE END OF APRIL BY THE TIME ANYTHING GETS IMPLEMENTED.
THEY, THEY PRETTY MUCH FINISH WITH CLASSES AND, AND, AND THEN PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, THAT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE.
SO IF WE WERE GOING TO DO A TRIAL, IT SHOULD BE SOONER THAN LATER.
PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY THE YEAH.
DO IT FOR THE MONTH OF MAY IF YOU CAN GET IT IMPLEMENTED.
AND, AND IT'S 'CAUSE YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE MORE PEOPLE WALKING.
IT REALLY GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF, OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE.
AND IT'S, NOW YOU BACK TO, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE BACK TO, UH, ONE WAY, THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF MOUNT JOY FROM OLD ARMY TO THE ROBIN HILL, FOUR-WAY INTERSECTION THAT ELIMINATES THE ROBIN HILL FROM BEING A POTENTIAL THROUGH ROAD.
SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE, I GUESS QUESTIONING THE IDEA, UM, THEY'RE, THEY SPEAK ABOUT EFFICIENCY.
IT'S GONNA TAKE 'EM A MINUTE OR TWO LONGER TO GET FROM ONE SCHOOL TO THE OTHER BY DRIVING.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS CERTAIN AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE A LOT MORE WALKABLE.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE NARROW ROADS, NOT A LOT OF VEHICLES, BUT ESPECIALLY DURING MORNING PICKUP AND DROP OFF, YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF CARS CLOGGED IN A VERY SHORT AREA.
AND IN DOING THIS, WE'RE HOPE THAT WE ENCOURAGE MORE WALKING.
AND EVEN ON THE WEEKENDS AND IN THE AFTERNOONS WHEN IT'S LIGHT, WHEN LATER IT'S A MORE WALKABLE COMMUNITY BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS ONLY COMING FROM ONE DIRECTION.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHARE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC IN A VERY TIGHT, TIGHT SHOULDER.
AND THEN SOMETIMES IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, CARS ARE STRUGGLING TO PASS EACH OTHER, LET ALONE HAVING A BICYCLIST OR A PEDESTRIAN UNTIL THE SIDEWALK GOES IN.
COULD WE ACTUALLY, WITH STRIPING NARROW SURE.
THE TRAVEL PATH, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND, AND WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE IN PEOPLE HONORING THE STRIPING, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SEE A WIDE ROAD AND WILL THEY HONOR THAT STRIPING OR THEY'LL SAY AFTER A WHILE? HONESTLY, FOR THE MOST PART, THEY DO.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TEND TO, IF, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY STAY TO, TO THE RIGHT OF YELLOW.
W W YELLOW LINES THERE, THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, EAST DALE AVENUE, BY NUMBER 50 IS A SOURCE OF FRUSTRATIONS.
BUT THAT IS DUE MORE TOWARD A, A INEFFICIENT SIGNALIZATION AT THE FOUR CORNERS AND NOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S BEHAVIORS.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT YES, THEY'LL, YOU NARROW THE LANES WITH THE STRIPING, THEY'LL, THEY'LL
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FOLLOW IT.I, THERE'S, UH, JUST, I KNOW LAWRENCE STREET MM-HMM.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL RIVER ROAD, THEY'LL, THEY'LL JUMP OVER TO W L TO HIT THE LEFT TURN POCKET.
AND IT'S, IT'S, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S AN ISSUE WITH THE SIGNALIZATION WHERE YOU'RE SITTING IN LINE IN THAT LEFT TURN, IT'S, WE CALL IT A LEADING LEFT TURN HOUR.
'CAUSE IT COMES UP FIRST AND IT LOOKS VERY ENTICING.
SO PEOPLE JUMP OVER TO DOUBLE YELLOW, IT HIT THE LEFT TURN POCKET AND GO.
VERSUS IT BEING LAGGING WHERE IT COMES UP AT THE END OF THE CYCLE.
AND THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT WITH THE STATE.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE THAT IS A LEADING, SO WHEN DO YOU THINK, WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'D WANT TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY MEETING? UH, AS SOON AS YOU CAN AFTER NEXT WEEK.
ESPECIALLY FOR WEEK OR ESPECIALLY FOR GONNA DO A PILOT PROGRAM AND WANNA IMPLEMENT IT RIGHT AWAY.
NOW THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO A, UH, A, UM, COLLECTION OF ROADS ON THE EAST SIDE OF OLD DARIE ROAD THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
YOU KNOW, ROXBURY ROAD, WALBROOK ROAD GOING SOUTH EDGEMONT ROAD GOING NORTH AWAY FROM ARLEY ROAD AND IN GLENWOOD GOING EAST, UH, WEST.
IT'S ALL A SERIES OF ONE WAY ROADS, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR AT LEAST 45 YEARS.
AND AT EDGEMONT ROAD, SOUTH OF ARLEY ROAD WAS RECENTLY AS 2010 WAS MADE A ONE WAY, UM, SOUTH MM-HMM.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, WE WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE ON A WEEKEND, RIGHT? NO, I WOULD, I LIVE IN TOWN, SO I'M CLOSE BY.
SO I'M, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF WOULD MAKE SENSE TO SEE, UM, MAYBE A, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK, WELL, THIS WEEK IS PASSOVER AND EASTER.
UM, I MEAN, WHAT ABOUT, SAY LIKE THE WEEK FROM SATURDAY OR SOMETHING.
IT'S CUTTING IT A LITTLE CLOSE BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE INTO MAY MM-HMM.
UM, WELL, IT HAS TO, WHATEVER IT IS, IT HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS ON APRIL 27TH.
WE NEED TO LOOK HALF APRIL 22ND.
YOU'VE LOST THE WINDOW OF MAY TO DO IT AS A TRIAL.
BUT I'M SAYING IF IT'S LIKE AN EXTRA DAY OR TWO, IT'S NOT BEEN, I'M JUST, I JUST SORT FEEL THAT IF I GIVE PEOPLE AND SAY WE'RE GONNA DO IT, SAY A WEEK FROM SATURDAY, AND, UM, AND WE SAY IT'S GONNA BE SAY 11 O'CLOCK OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEN NOBODY COULD SAY WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO ALL GOOD POINTS.
IT'S JUST THAT I THINK THAT HAVING THE TIME TO HAVE THE ACTUAL, UM, TRAFFIC STUDY DONE AS IT WERE, WOULD BE, IS MORE IMPORTANT.
SO THE SOONER, 'CAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS STILL WORKING ON THEIR TRAFFIC STUDIES AS WELL.
AND NOTHING'S WRITTEN IN STONE.
BECAUSE IF, IF THEIR ULTIMATE PLANS DIFFER AND YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION.
TO ME, I JUST HAVE, I HAVE TO VOTE BASED ON SAFETY.
I MEAN, HE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE AREA VERY WELL.
JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU WENT TO THAT SCHOOL SCHOOL, RIGHT? SO MM-HMM.
NOW YOU SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF IT, YOU KNOW, BEING, YOU KNOW, AN ACTUAL A WEEK FROM WEDNESDAY THAT ANYTHING A WEEK FROM WEDNESDAY.
WELL, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A BOARD MEETING 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT THAT TOMORROW.
SO WHAT IS, IT'S THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
WHAT TIME, WHAT TIME WILL LOOK AT, BECAUSE IT'S STILL LIGHT OUTSIDE.
WHAT TIME IS IT NOW? IT'S FIVE.
IS THAT GONNA GIVE ENOUGH TIME FOR PARENTS TOO? THAT'S THE 20TH TO COME OUT AND BE ABLE TO BE PARTICIPATE.
ANYTIME I'M HERE, WHATEVER WORKS FOR ANYONE ELSE.
WE'RE HAPPENED TO PAUL, WE LOST YOU.
NOW YOU NOW YOU SHUT OFF YOUR VIDEO.
I HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT NIGHT.
SO YEAH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE.
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OKAY.UM, I THINK THAT IF WE DID A SATURDAY, IT WOULD BE SATURDAY BECAUSE NOBODY THEN COULD SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T MAKE IT, UH, UNDERSTANDING.
BUT AS WE SAID, WE, WE DO HAVE A TIME CONSTRAINT BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PUT A PILOT IN.
SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET A NOTICE OUT, A S A P SO PEOPLE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PLAN, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT OUT BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
WE'RE GIVING THEM A WEEK NOTICE THAT IT'S ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN.
SO PEOPLE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS GOING TO BE.
SO IT SHOULDN'T TAKE ANYBODY BY SURPRISE.
SO IF YOU GET AN EMAIL OUT, A S A P OR WE CAN GET AN EMAIL OUT AS S A P AND JUST MAKE SURE
DO YOU WANT GET OUT DURING THIS MEETING? SO IF YOU WANNA MAKE IT NEXT, IF YOU WANNA MAKE IT NEXT WEDNESDAY, THAT'S FINE.
OR IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
YOU JUST GIVE ME A A DATE AND I'LL MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS NOTIFIED.
SO, SO, SO DO YOU THINK PROBABLY, WELL, WE ALL WORK.
SO MAYBE AROUND THIS TIME NEXT, 'CAUSE I'M JUST LOOKING AT DAYLIGHT.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CAP, UM MM-HMM.
CAPITALIZE ON THE DAYLIGHT THAT WE HAVE.
SO IS LIKE SIX O'CLOCK IF WE DO, IT'S HOW, HOW IF GUESS IT'S STILL LIGHT.
SO WHY DON'T, PAUL, WHY DON'T YOU SET UP FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY AT SIX AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE, OKAY, THAT'S PERFECT.
AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING, WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING REGARDING THIS ISSUE.
THUR, NEXT THURSDAY, WE HAVE A DATE.
ANYBODY HAVE A DATE? WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY.
BUT WHAT'S, YEAH, WE CAN MEET AT SLY PLACE SCHOOL AND WE CAN MEET AT, AND EVERYONE CAN MEET AT SLY PLACE SCHOOL.
AND SO DO WE MEET THE SUPERVISOR PARKING? YES, THE SUPERVISOR.
THE SUPERVISOR WILL SEND A NOTIFICATION TO EVERYONE IN THE AREA.
SO, UM, AND THIS WILL BE FORMALLY IN WRITING.
SO SIX O'CLOCK NEXT WEDNESDAY, APRIL 20TH AT THE SEALY PARKING LOT.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE, UM, LET ME LOOK.
HOW ARE YOU,
UM, I'LL BE BACK AGAIN TO PROVIDE SOME UPDATED INFORMATION.
WELL, WE, WE SENT OUT, UH, SOME STUFF THIS MORNING, A LITTLE CLOSER.
TIM DIDN'T HAVE PHONE, BUT YOU TOO.
SO, UM, WE SENT OUT, UH, A FEW DOCUMENTS THIS MORNING IN RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
I HOPE EVERYBODY YEAH, YOU HAVE THAT IN HAND.
AND, UM, THEY INCLUDED A, UM, SORT OF PERFORMANCE ANALYSIS OF THE RATES FOR, UH, BOTH THE, UH, ALL, ALL OF THE CONTRACT TERMS AND THEN FROM START TO UP TO NOW, UH, AS WELL AS THE SORT OF MONTHLY REPORT FORMAT, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DOING.
AND THEN, UH, UH, ONE MORE DOCUMENT.
THERE WAS, UH, UH, AN INTEREST IN HAVING KIND OF, HEY, LET'S RESUMMARIZE THE, THE BENEFITS OF THE, THE PROGRAM.
UH, SO MAYBE WE'LL TURN THAT, THAT FIRST PAGE THAT I SEE EVERYBODY HAS THERE, UH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PERFORMANCE OVER THE SEVERAL, SEVERAL TERMS. AND, UM, I THINK YOU'LL SEE THE, I I SHADED SOME AREAS ON THAT BECAUSE I FIGURED, OKAY, LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT SORT OF THE TYPICAL, UH, EXPERIENCE WAS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE IN THE STANDARD SUPPLY FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF CONTRACTS AND THEN, UH, WE MOVED TO THE RENEWABLE SUPPLY.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF A PLACE TO, TO FOCUS.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, UM, ULTIMATE RESULTS OF THAT ARE THAT THE, UM, TOTAL SAVINGS OR LOSS FOR A, UH, A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER CAME IN JUST, JUST BETTER THAN, UH, BREAKEVEN.
THEY HAVE $9 OVER
SO IT'S JUST, JUST A SMIDGE OVER BREAKEVEN ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, THEY'RE NOT DOING AS WELL.
AND THE NUMBER KIND OF POPS OUT AT YOU.
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$400.BUT AGAIN, IF WE TAKE THAT AND WE LOOK AT IT AS A TOTAL OVER 68 MONTHS, THAT'S FIVE, ALMOST $6.
IF YOU ONCE AGAIN SAY, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT EQUAL TO AS A PER KILOWATT HOUR DIFFERENCE? THAT'S JUST A LITTLE OVER HALF A CENT.
SO IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING OUT THERE AND BUYING POWER AND MAYBE IT'S 7.20 CENTS FOR YOUR REGULAR, YOU KNOW, UM, REGULAR SUPPLY.
AND SO THIS WOULD MEAN I'M PAYING 7.7 OR 7.8 FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE, AND THEN THE LOCKED IN RATES.
SO YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT HITTING THOSE BIG SPIKES, YOU KNOW, SO YOU ARE KIND OF PAYING A, A LITTLE PREMIUM, BUT YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING FOR IT.
AND THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE, THE, THE ABILITY TO OPT OUT IF THAT THAT ARRANGEMENT DOESN'T SUIT YOU.
SO JUST WANNA KIND OF PUT THAT ALL IN, FRAME IT IN THAT CONTEXT, I THINK.
AND, UH, SO WE THINK THAT ON THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT DOES SAY THAT THE PROGRAM IS, IS ACHIEVING ITS GOALS, WHICH IS MOVING US TO A CLEAN ENERGY, UH, POSITION IN THE MOST ECONOMICALLY EFFECTIVE WAY WE CAN, USING THE MARKET, GOING OUT THERE, GETTING BIDS AND CREATING THIS CONSUMER FRIENDLY STRUCTURE WHERE, WHERE PEOPLE STILL HAVE ALL THE OPTIONS THAT THEY, THEY WANTED.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS TO, TO, TO FRAME, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PERFORMANCE LOOKING BACKWARDS.
AND THEN AGAIN, THIS WITH THE, WITH THE AIM OF JUST, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME ORIENTATION VERSUS THE ACTION, UH, WHICH IS IN FRONT OF US NOW, WHICH WE'RE, I JUST CAME FROM NEW ROCHELLE, AND I'LL BE OFF TO, TO R BROOK AFTER THIS MEETING.
UM, GETTING EVERYBODY LINED UP ON THE, THE, UH, NEXT ACTION, WHICH IS THIS, AS I DESCRIBED IN THE LAST SESSION, UH, THE IDEA IS TO GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE SPACE, A, A SHORT EXTENSION, UH, SO THAT, UH, FOR TWO PURPOSES.
ONE, BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO CRAFT THIS NEW PROCUREMENT STRUCTURE WHERE WE NOT ONLY ARE GOING OUT TO THE RETAIL BIDDERS AS WE DID, BUT WE'RE EXPANDING BY FACILITATING BIDS FROM WHOLESALERS, UH, BY WRAPPING THOSE BIDS SO THAT THEY'VE BECOME QUALIFIED ESCO BIDS THAT WE CAN CONSUME IN THE, IN THE PROGRAM.
AND THEN THE OTHER GOAL IS JUST LIKE, IT'S CRAZY OUT THERE NOW AND THE THERE AUCTION COMPANIES EVEN SAYING THAT FOR SOME OF THEIR CLIENTS, THEY'RE GOING OUT FOR BIDS AND THEY CAN'T EVEN GET PEOPLE TO BID.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST SO, SO VOLATILE.
AND AS WE SAID, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE PRESSURES ARE ON THERE.
IF YOU GO OUT FOR A LONG TERM BID NOW YOU'RE PROBABLY PRICING IN SOME OF THAT UNCERTAINTY.
WE WANT TO PUSH OUT BEYOND THAT.
SO IT'S KIND OF THESE TWO, TWO GOALS IN THIS EXTENSION.
UM, AND THEN, SO WE DO HAVE, UH, AN M O U ON THE TABLE, WHICH IS BASED ON THE, THE INPUTS THAT WE HAD.
AND AS IT SAID, AT 12 AND A HALF CENTS, I'LL BE FRANK WITH YOU, THE THE PRICE IS ALREADY PUSHED UP AND EVEN NUDGED BEYOND THAT, WE MAY BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE GET ALL THE MOUS IN HAND AND NOW WE'RE WAITING DAY BY DAY FOR, FOR IT TO GIVE US A LITTLE JOG BACK AND GET BACK IN RANGE, YOU KNOW, UH, AND WE, BASED ON OUR SCHEDULE, WE HAVE A, A WEEK OR MAYBE AT MOST TWO WEEKS THAT WE CAN KIND OF DO THAT AND STILL STAY ON OUR SCHEDULE WITH THE CONTINUITY OF THE CONTRACTS, YOU KNOW, SO WE ARE, WE ARE DOING A LITTLE BALLET DANCE HERE, TRYING TO GET THIS ALL LOCKED IN, WATCHING THAT AND TRYING TO GET THAT ALL DONE.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BACKDROP, BUT PLEASE, UM, I'M NOT SURE YOU KNOW, IF THAT, IF THAT HELPED OR NOT.
PLEASE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
YOU KNOW, IF THIS HAS BEEN POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE, I'M NOT SURE IT SHOULD BE.
YEAH, I THINK IT DO WHAT WE WANTED IT TO DO.
SO, SO BASICALLY WHAT DOES THE BOARD WANT TO DO? DO WE WANNA RENEW THE, UM, THE AGREEMENT, UM, WAS SUSTAINABLE? UH, OR NOT? WHAT, WHAT'S THE TERM? THE TERM IS UP TO SIX MONTHS, WE'VE SET IT AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE OFFERS AND FIND SOMETHING BETWEEN THREE AND SIX.
WE WERE LOOKING AT FIVE, BUT IT COULD BE FOUR.
IT'S ENOUGH TO GET US OUT, YOU KNOW, SOME MONTHS FROM TODAY.
SO I, MY SENSE IS EITHER FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY GET SOMEBODY TO BID, THEN WAS YOUR EMAIL STATING THAT THEN IT WOULD LOCK US IN LONGER.
IF WE GET, IF WE GET OFFERS WITHIN THE CRITERIA IN THE M O U WITHIN THE 12 AND A HALF CENT RANGE, THEN IF EVERYBODY WHO WAS SIGNED OFF ON THE MOUS IS AUTHORIZING US TO SAY YES,
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YOU KNOW, FOR THAT, UM, FOR THAT PERIOD, FOR THAT CONTRACT.AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT THE M O U STRUCTURE HAS, YOU KNOW, BEEN FOR US ALL ALONG, IS ESSENTIALLY A MECHANISM WHICH SETS OUT THOSE CRITERIA ENABLING US TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE BIDDER FOR THREE TO SIX MONTHS OR FOR THE SIX MONTHS.
HOW, HOW LONG IS THE CONTRACT PERIOD? SO FOR THIS, FOR THIS SHORT TERM EXTENSION, WE WANT TO GET NUMBERS 4, 5, 4, UM, THREE IS PROBABLY A LITTLE SHORT.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING FIVE OR FOUR AND THERE MIGHT BE A, A 10TH OR, YOU KNOW, OR, OR 0.15 CENT DIFFERENCE AND IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PLAY IN THERE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS.
AND ONCE WE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET THAT, IF IT COMES IN LINE, WE'LL MAKE THE AWARD, THEN WE WILL PUT THE NUMBER IN THE, AND THE DATE INTO THE CONTRACT TEMPLATE THAT'S IN THERE AND, AND, UH, DISTRIBUTE THAT FOR SIGNING.
AND WHAT'S YOUR TIME CONSTRAINT? SO, AS I SAID, WE ARE, UH, FOCUSED ON TRYING TO GET ALL THE MOUS IN HAND BY THURSDAY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT PRICE WILL COME IN ON THURSDAY AS WE WANT IT, BUT IF IT DOES, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE.
OR IT COULD BE THAT TAKES A LITTLE JOG AND WE HAVE TO WAIT A COUPLE DAYS AND, AND, UH, PRAY TO THE ELECTRICITY GODS AND MM-HMM.
UM, AND THAT'S NOT A GUARANTEE.
YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, WE DID HAVE A SITUATION ON THE, IN THE NORTH, ON THE NICE TERRITORIES WHERE WE ACTUALLY MISSED AND WE HAD A PAUSE FOR A FEW MONTHS.
I MEAN, THE, THE CONSUMERS GET, YOU KNOW, MORE COMMUNICATIONS BACK AND FORTH.
THEY DROP OUT INTO THE UTILITY TO COME BACK AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND, AND THEN THEY'RE NOT SORT OF ANY MORE PROTECTED FROM WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKET THAN THEY WERE MAYBE LESS SO, YOU KNOW, FROM SPIKES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE WOULD'VE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
WELL THAT'S, UH, TOMORROW, RIGHT? THAT WOULD NEXT AGENDA.
UM, AS I SAY, THAT'S THE CONSTRAINTS WE'RE FACING IS THAT ONCE WE GET THE MOUS, THEN WE'RE IN A POSITION TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF WE, THE, THE PRICING COMES IN.
SO MY CONCERN IS IF, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG'S NOT SIGNED ON, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SUPPLIER WILL HAVE TO HEDGE WHEN WE SAY OKAY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA JUST, THEY DON'T GIVE OFFERS THAT ARE LIKE, GOOD FOR A WEEK.
'CAUSE 'CAUSE THE THE PRICES MOVE.
WE HAVE 45 AGENDA, UH, RESOLUTIONS ON THIS AGENDA.
WE'RE STRUGGLING TO DEAL WITH THE 45 THAT WE HAVE.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON MANY OF THE RESOLUTIONS.
THEY HAD ANOTHER ONE OF THIS COMPLEXITY.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NOT WORKABLE.
NOW IF WE WANT TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING OR SOMETHING, BUT THEN THE PUBLIC'S NOT GONNA GET TO DISCUSS IT.
I THINK THIS, THAT'S NOT, I THINK HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING ON THIS IS GONNA GET PEOPLE REALLY UPSET BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING ON IS IF YOU HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T GET TO PARTICIPATE AND THAT'S NOT FAIR EITHER.
UM, WELL THAT'S A, THAT'S YOUR REALITY.
I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR PROCESSES, UM, WE, UH, I'M JUST LAYING OUT FOR YOU WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THINGS AND, UM, IT JUST MEANS THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET THIS OFFER, WE HAVE TO TELL 'EM, WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE OKAY FROM GREENBERG YET.
THEY MAY BE, THEY LOCK IN FOR THE REST OF THE LOAD AND A WEEK LATER, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LUCKY THE PRICING STILL HOLDS.
AND IF WE'RE NOT, THEN, THEN THEY COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO IT FOR THAT ANYMORE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD BE.
IT'S A, NOT ONLY IS IT A BAD TIME, YOU KNOW, TOWN BOARD MEETING TIME WISE, BUT IT'S JUST A TERRIBLE TIME TO GO TO MARKET ON ANYTHING DEALING WITH ENERGY
WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE SHORT TERM.
SO THAT WE DON'T MAKE COMMITMENTS DURING THIS TIME OF THAT NATURE.
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SO, OKAY.WELL I APPRECIATE, UH, THE, THE EFFORTS.
I KNOW THAT
WE HAVE GOT ALREADY APPROVED ABOUT 15 OR 16, AND THIS HAS BEEN JUST LIKE MATT, WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS A DAY FOR, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE DOING FOUR MEETINGS TODAY AND IT'S, IT'S LIKE AGAIN, ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR TOMORROW.
AND WE DO EXPECT TO HAVE EVERYBODY RIGHT IN HAND, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT YOUR, YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR SITUATION IS YOUR SITUATION.
SO, UH, AGAIN, APPRECIATE TAKING THE TIME TODAY.
I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH AGENDA AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP FACILITATE THE PROCESSES OR WHATEVER YOU PLEASE LET ME ALSO, YOU WERE GONNA, UH, THANK YOU.
SEND ME FOR THE, THE MARCH UPDATE, YOU KNOW, THE COMPARISONS THAT, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN POSTING IT EVERY MONTH AND OH, THAT WAS IN THE, IN THE PACKET.
THAT WAS IN THE PACKET THAT WAS THE, UH, ONE OF THE THREE DOCUMENTS IN, IN THAT I JUST WANTED TO DO.
YOU'VE BEEN LIKE POSTING SOMETHING.
NOT OUT A PACKAGE, YOU KNOW, JUST IF YOU COULD JUST DO MY SEPARATE SUMMARY, YOU HAVE IT.
WE BASICALLY FOLLOWED THE FORMAT THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN USING.
SO WE CAN GET THOSE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
PAUL, THE DOCUMENT, IT'S IN ATTACHMENTS THAT HE SENT THIS, THE EMAIL, WAS IT THIS MORNING OR THIS AFTERNOON? IT WAS THIS MORNING AT ABOUT 10 30 MORNING OR SOMETHING THIS MORNING.
IF YOU COULD MAYBE JUST RESEND IT TO ME.
UH, NEXT ON THE AGENDA, UM, WEREN'T WE GONNA BE, UH, DISCUSSING THE NAME CHANGING THE STREET, THE HONORARY STREET, UH, CHANGE, WHAT IS THE WESTCHESTER YOUTH CONGRESS SUSTAINABILITY FORUM? OH, THEY BASICALLY, UM, UM, UM, HAVE BEEN MEETING AS, AS A GROUP, AND THEY BASICALLY WANTED, UH, ME TO SPEAK.
UM, AND I SAID, THOUGHT THAT IT WAS ON TUESDAY, THEY'RE INVITING ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, YOU KNOW, I, I WANTED, THE SUGGESTIONS I HAD WAS, UM, MAYBE THE WHOLE BOARD MAY WANT TO TALK, BE INVITED AND MAYBE CAN MAKE IT PART OF OUR WORK SESSION.
OH, SO THAT'S NOT FOR THIS MEETING.
THIS IS, THAT'S FOR OUR FUTURE MEETING, NO.
OH,
MAYBE WE'LL GET SOME GOOD IDEAS FROM THEM.
SO WE JUST SAVED 15 MINUTES BECAUSE 15 MINUTES WAS DEVOTED TO YOU MAKING THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.
SO DO WE HAVE A DESIGNATED NEED FOR THAT OR DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THAT FORUM? JUST ANY TIME COMING UP IN THE FUTURE, PAUL.
OH, WAIT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE STREET NAMING NO SUSTAIN FORUM.
YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT, I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS ON, I, I GAVE JOAN THE, THE DATE.
IT'S NOT, JOAN HAS IT ON THE CALENDAR, SO IT'S NOT TODAY.
IT'S NOT ON THIS, NO, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT WAS, UH, A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
I'M NOT LOOKING AT MY IS JOAN ON, BECAUSE I, I GAVE HER ALL THE INFORMATION.
SHE, SHE JUST LEFT HERE A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
SO THEY WOULD BE BASICALLY PART OF OUR MEETING FOR 15 MINUTES.
AT A WORK SESSION, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT THE TOWN HAS BEEN TAKING.
THAT'S, SO PAUL, FOR THE HONORARY STREET, UH, UM, COMMEMORATIVE NAMING OF, UH, WORTHINGTON ROAD, ANDRE LEON, TALLEY WAY, THE RESIDENT WHO, UM, PROPOSED THAT, UM, ALENE SUBER, SHE IS PREPARING TO DO A PRESENTATION TOMORROW EVENING.
SHE DIDN'T, SHE RECEIVED NO CONFIRMATION THAT SHE WAS DOING A PRESENTATION ON, UH, TODAY, UH, TO THE BOARD.
DIDN'T KNOW THAT SHE WAS ON THE, THAT THIS ITEM WAS GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.
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BUT, UM, SO IF WE COULD ADD UNDER PRESENTATIONS ON FOR TOMORROW EVENING, UM, SHE HAS SEVERAL PEOPLE COMING WITH HER.I JUST SPOKE WITH HER, UH, TO DO A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD AT SEVEN 30.
HOW LONG IT'S GONNA BE MUCH LATER.
UM, WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVER BEEN ESTABLISHED AS A, UH, WE, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THIS YET.
WHAT, WHAT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVER BEEN ESTABLISHED AS A, UM, A TIME LIMIT FOR EVERYONE ALTOGETHER.
UM, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? I WANNA MAKE MORE SENSE.
UH, IF WE HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HER AT A, AT, AT A WORK SESSION OF THE, OF THE BOARD, BECAUSE TOMORROW'S MEETING THAT WE HAVE POLICE, UH, A BUNCH OF THINGS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE THE UKRAINIAN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THE REGULAR AGENDA.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF, UM, THIS IS LIKE A CS PROPOSAL AND I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD GIVE IT THE RESPECT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, CUT HER SHORT AND CAN SHE COME TO THE, BASICALLY COME NEXT BETTER DOING IT AT WORK.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO PUT IT ON TODAY.
WELL, BECAUSE SHE, UM, THIS WAS PROPOSED LIKE A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND, UH, I JUST SPOKE WITH HER.
SHE HAS PEOPLE FROM VOGUE MAGAZINE COMING TOMORROW NIGHT TO BE HERE AT TOWN HALL WITH HER.
UM, I, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, TO CHANGE AT THIS LAST MINUTE, UM, UH, ALL OF THE EFFORT THAT SHE'S PUT INTO IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA FUND.
SO THAT'S, SO THAT, THAT'S NOT A, THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING, ELLEN, JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON, THAT'S WHY.
BUT, BUT WHAT AUTHORITY, THAT'S WHY THIS IS CALLED, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S WHY THIS IS CALLED A DRAFT AGENDA, UM, TO ALLOW FOR CHANGES.
UM, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE JUST TO, YOU KNOW, SAY I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A STREET NAMING, AND THEN THEY APPEAR AT A TOWN BOARD AGENDA, AND THEY INVITE THE MEDIA AS TO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
THERE'S, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR HAVING A STREET NAME AND ONE OF IT, WHICH IS GETTING THE APPROVAL OF THE TOWN BOARD.
AND SINCE WE HAVEN'T AGREED TO IT YET, I THINK THE VOGUE ANGLE IS A LITTLE PREMATURE, ISN'T IT? UH, YES.
NO, SHE'S, THE, THE EXPECTATION IS NOT THAT THERE WOULD BE A VOTE TOMORROW.
THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE A PRESENTATION, UM, ON THE, ON THE IDEA.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THERE IS TO DISCUSS OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THERE'S A, THAT, THAT, UH, SHE'S PROPOSING TO MAKE WORTHINGTON WAY, I MEAN, WORTHINGTON ROAD, UH, COMM HAVE A COMMEMORATIVE STREET SIGN, NOT CHANGE THE NAME OF THE ROAD AT ALL, BUT TO HAVE A COMMEMORATIVE STREET SIGN THAT SAYS, UM, ANDRE LEON TALLEY WAY.
BUT I'M SURE THE, I'M SURE THE PRESS DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION.
THE PRESS IS GONNA CARE ABOUT THE VOTE TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE ROAD TO REFLECT ANDRE LEON TALLEY, SHE DID NOT INVITE THE PRESS.
SHE INVITED REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE MAGAZINE WHERE HE, UM, WORKED AND BECAME WORLD RENOWNED FOR.
SO I, THE ONLY THING BEST PRESS SHE DIDN'T MENTION IS SHE DIDN'T MENTION, MENTION THAT SHE WAS THE PRESS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE WORST THING THAT HAPPENED IS THAT THERE COULD BE CONTROVERSY OVER WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
BECAUSE THEN VOGUE IS THE, THE, IF, IF VOGUE IS THERE, THEN THE ARTICLE IS GONNA BE HOW THIS CONTROVERSY WHEN HE DOESN'T DESERVE THE CONTROVERSY, BECAUSE HE'S SOMEBODY THAT SO MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD LOOKED UP TO.
AND I SAT DOWN THAT IF WE COULD HAVE, IF YOU COULD ASK HER, UM, TO SCHEDULE A MEETING, UH, WITH THE TOWN BOARD, YOU KNOW, A A WORK SESSION, DO IT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO IT, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING OR THE, THE, THE TUESDAY AFTER.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE ON TODAY.
IF WE WERE, IF THEN IF THE BOARD BASICALLY IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT, UM, THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE FOCUS ON A POSITIVE, UM, INITIATIVE RATHER THAN ON SOMETHING THAT'S CONTROVERSIAL.
I, AND YOU KNOW, SO I JUST SORT OF THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD BASICALLY SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, TO HEAR ABOUT IT, TO REFLECT ON IT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, UH, WE
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COULD HAVE THE VOGUE PEOPLE AROUND.THAT'S JUST MY OWN GUT FEELING.
I THINK IT COULD BE MORE MEANINGFUL TO JUDITH.
I'M OKAY WITH THAT, PAUL, WITH YOUR, OF COURSE, WITH, WITH YOUR PROPOSAL AND WITH THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, UH, UH, IT WAS PRESENTED TWO WEEKS AGO, AND SO IT WOULD FOLLOW REASON, UH, REASONABLE THINKING THAT, UM, THIS WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED.
UM, IT, AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PRESENTED TWO WEEKS AGO AND IN THE EMAIL, UM, THE REQUEST WAS MADE TO PRESENT THIS PROPOSAL, UH, AT, AT, AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING IN THE FORM OF A PRESENTATION.
AND SO, UM, THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN PLANNING, PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER, AND THERE JUST SEEMS TO BE NO SENSITIVITY TO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE PREPARE THEMSELVES TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD, AND THEN THE BOARD THROWS A MONKEY WRENCH INTO THE PLANS, UM, BY, BY DELAYING THE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY.
SO I WILL, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE THAT TO HER TODAY THAT THE BOARD IS NOT, UH, READY TO HEAR HER PRESENTATION TOMORROW EVENING.
AND, UM, SO, UH, I JUST WANT CON I JUST NEED CONSENSUS TODAY, UM, THAT SHE WILL BE, THAT SHE'S BEING INVITED TO SPEAK WITH THIS GOVERNING BODY NEXT TUESDAY.
IS THAT THE CONSENSUS? YOUR HONOR, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE MEANINGFUL TOO, IF WE CAN BE POSITIVE FOR HER, IT WOULD BE GREAT.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULDN'T BE POSITIVE.
I MEAN, IF WE HAVE SOME, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY, AS PAUL REFERRED TO IF, OR FRANCIS SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, WE WANNA MAKE SURE IF THERE'S ANY CONTROVERSY AND EVERYTHING IS OUT OF THE WAY AND IT JUST IS A, A REAL POSITIVE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS BECAUSE OF THE RAISING THE UKRAINIAN FLAG, I, I THINK THAT THROWS A DAMPER ON THAT.
AND I, AND I SEE THAT AS A REALLY, IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND A REALLY POSITIVE, UM, JOYFUL THING.
SAD THAT WE LOST, BUT, WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE HOW, IT'S ALSO INTERESTING HOW RAISING A UKRAINIAN FLAG CAN PUT A DAMPER ON PROPOSING A COMMEMORATIVE STREET NAMING FOR A WELL-KNOWN RESIDENT OF THE TOWN.
BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, I WILL CALL HER TONIGHT AND LET HER KNOW AT THIS, THIS EVENING RIGHT NOW AND LET HER KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, NEXT TUESDAY, SO SHE'S GONNA BE ON THE NEXT TUESDAY.
SHE'S INVITED NEXT TUESDAY ON THE WORK SESSION, UH, AGENDA.
I ALSO HAVE HEARD, YOU KNOW, FROM SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE FRIENDLY WITH JENNIFER HUDSON, THAT SHE WAS INTERESTED IN ATTENDING, UM, A DEDICATION.
SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVE SO HIGHLY, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, UM, ABOUT HIM AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY MISS HIM.
AND I THINK THERE'S PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO ARE WELL KNOWN WHO WOULD WANT TO BE PART OF THE CEREMONY.
YEAH, I MEAN, THE AGENDA JUST CAME OUT AT THREE O'CLOCK OR THREE 30 THIS AFTERNOON, SO THERE WAS NO WAY OF KNOWING, UM, THAT THIS ITEM WAS ON THE AGENDA IN THE FIRST PLACE.
HOWEVER, WE SEEMED TO HAVE REACHED CONSENSUS HERE THAT, UM, MS. UH, SUBER WILL BE INVITED TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD NEXT TUESDAY.
LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE HAVE, UM, THE AGENDA REVIEW.
OH, CAN I JUST, UH, MAKE ONE, UH, COMMENT RELATING TO, UM, UM, THE SUGGESTION, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ASK THE STATE TO, UM, UM, AUTHORIZE FUTURE CONDOS, NOT CURRENT CONDOS, RIGHT.
UM, I GOT A, A CALL FROM SOMEBODY, UM, AND IT SORT OF MADE, MADE A SENSE.
THEY THOUGHT THAT, UM, INSTEAD OF SAYING IT SHOULD BE A BLANKET, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW LAW, THAT THE TOWN SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR A FEW, SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WE, WE WANNA PUT, UM, A CONDO ON, UM, EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE OR ON, UM, UH, AT THE FOUR CORNERS AND WE WANNA MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE.
UH, THEY THOUGHT THAT IF THE TOWN BOARD HAD THE FLEXIBILITY OF, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT SAY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THEY CREATE A FOURTH CLASS OF, OF CONDOS THAT WOULD BE TAXED RESIDENTIAL, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME STABILITY OF HAVING
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SOME LESS EXPENSIVE CONDOS.AND ALSO SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THEM, THE LUXURY ONES WOULD BE TAXED AS, AS RESIDENTIAL, JUST A WAY OF DEALING WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE BOARD WOULD HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT, ABOUT THAT.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SUPPORT WHATEVER THE BOARD BASICALLY GOES ONCE, YOU KNOW, ON RELATING TO THAT.
IT'S JUST, IT IS, IS JUST AN INTERESTING CONCEPT THAT THEY BROUGHT UP TO ME TODAY.
BUT THE, WHAT HAPPENS, UNLESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY THAT'S DEALING WITH ACTUAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE, WE HAVE DONE LOW INCOME HOUSING OR LOW INCOME HOUSING.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT REALLY A CONDO THAT IS NOT, DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF TAXES, IS NOT GONNA BE AFFORDABLE BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER IS GONNA MARK UP THAT PROJECT THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT DWELLING.
RIGHT? AND SO REALLY THE QUESTION COMES DOWN TO, FOR NEW CONDOS, UM, DO WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE DEVELOPER GETS A WINDFALL AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MUNICIPALITY AND THE TAXPAYERS OF THE MUNICIPALITY OR NOT? AND SO, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ASKING THE STATE FOR EITHER THEY COULD DO IT STATEWIDE IF THEY WANT, OR THEY CAN DO IT BY HOME RULE IF THEY WANT, WHICH MEANS INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITIES, UH, CAN OPT IN OR NOT.
OR THEY JUST DO IT FOR GREENBERG, RIGHT? JUST LET'S, LET'S JUST, LET'S NOT GIVE ANYBODY AN EXCUSE AS TO, WELL, I WOULD'VE DONE IT IF IT WAS STATE, OR I WOULD'VE DONE IT IF IT WAS HOME RULE, OR I WOULD'VE DONE IT.
LET'S ASK 'EM TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE CAN DO TO, TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
RIGHT? YOU'RE TALKING OF 450, UH, UNIT UNITS OF HOUSING POTENTIALLY AT FOUR CORNERS HERE.
THERE WAS A PROPOSAL FOR 179 UNITS ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
AND SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I I, WHATEVER IT IS, THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS GONNA BE OVER, YOU KNOW, NOT TO AND NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.
SO WE HAVE TO GET SOMETHING TO THEM SO THAT, UH, AT LEAST THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE ASKED YOU TO AND YOU DIDN'T, OR WE ASKED YOU TO AND YOU DID, AND THANK YOU ONE OF THE, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
BUT WHATEVER IT IS, WE NEED TO, I THINK WE NEED TO, WE HAVE NEED TO MOVE ON THIS SO WE CAN GET IT TO OUR LEGISLATORS SO THAT THEY CAN EITHER WORK ON IT OR NOT WORK ON IT.
BUT, UM, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF HOUSING THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, BEING PROPOSED AND, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT LEGISLATION.
AND AGAIN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, BEFORE ANYBODY PANICS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EXISTING CONDOS, EXISTING CONDOS.
THEY'VE ALREADY PAID THAT PREMIUM.
IT'S NOT, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S FAIR TO HAVE PREMIUM TO THEN ALSO THEN NOW BE TAXED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST ISN'T FAIR.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW NEW DEVELOPMENT WHERE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BUYING INTO.
THEY'RE BUYING INTO A NEW NEWLY CONSTRUCTED, NO, NOT EXISTING, NEWLY CONSTRUCTED, UH, UH, DWELLINGS THAT, UH, UH, THEY, THEY KNOW IF THEY BUY IT, UM, IS GOING TO BE TAXED AT MARKET RATE.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH EXISTING CONDOS WHATSOEVER.
IS IT A DRAFTED
WE CAN DO THAT, BUT I, I HAVEN'T DONE IT.
SO YEAH, THERE'S JUST SO MANY RESOLUTIONS THIS WEEK, UH, THAT, UH, WE'RE DEAL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH THEM AS WE CAN DEAL WITH THEM.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL PUSH FOR THAT.
UH, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS? UM, THE HOME RULE REQUEST? WELL, WHAT DO YOU, DO YOU AGREE THAT WE SHOULD JUST ASK FOR ALL THREE DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES? EITHER STATEMENTS? YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD ASK FOR, UH, STATEWIDE HOME HOME RULE OR GREENBERG ONLY.
WHICH HOME RULE IS, UH, IS, UH, GREENBERG ONLY, UH, HOME RULE FROM WHAT UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE STATE PASSES A LAW THAT THEN MUNICIPALITIES CAN OPT INTO THROUGH HOME RULE.
HOME RULE IS BASICALLY GREENBERG WOULD ASK FOR IT ONLY FOR GREENBERG.
SO IF THEY PASS IT, THEN SCARSDALE AND ELMSFORD COULD ALSO ASK FOR IT.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO ASK
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SPECIFIC VILLAGE OR A VERY SPECIFIC TOWN TO DO SOME VERY UNUSUAL THING.AND SO THEY DO THAT BECAUSE THEN WHY WOULD THE OTHER LEGISLATORS THROUGHOUT THE STATE CARE, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, PAUL, BUT THE WAY WE COULD DO THIS, AND I THINK WE WANT TO ASK FOR ALL THE OPTIONS AND SEE WHAT THE STATES, RIGHT.
WHATEVER, WHATEVER WORKS, WHATEVER WORKS.
SO WE'RE DOING AGENDA REVIEW NOW.
WE'RE JUST GOING OVER THE AGENDA.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA? DID YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW? WELL, I MEAN, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT AND MAKE SURE RIGHT.
SO IT'S 'CAUSE IT'S UNDER PRESENTATION.
SO IT IS UNDER THE PRESENTATION.
SO YOU WANNA DO IT NOW? YEAH, LET'S DO IT NOW.
SO WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE ARE PROPERLY DISPLAYING A FLAG THAT, UM, FOR THE UKRAINIAN FLAG, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPLIANCE.
SO WHAT I DID WAS PRINT OFF, UM, THE LEGISLATION OF HOW THE FLAGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, DISPLAYED, IF YOU WILL.
AND SO I, I SHOULD HAVE MADE OTHER COPIES ON IT.
SO WE JUST, AND OF COURSE I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THE AREA THAT I WANTED TO HER.
UM, I, I, I'M PRETTY SURE I KNOW IT.
YOU SHOULD PROBABLY NORMALLY HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING WHENEVER WE'VE RA RAISED A DIFFERENT FLAG IS TAKING DOWN THE STATE FLAG.
WE'RE NOT REALLY ALLOWED TO DO THAT, RIGHT? WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FLY THE STATE FLAG ON, ON GOVERNMENT PROPERTY MM-HMM.
AND SO YOU CAN'T FLY ANY OTHER FLAG OTHER THAN THE P O W FLAG, M I A FLAG WITH THE, WITH THE AMER THE US FLAG.
SO THAT'S ITS OWN, THAT'S ON ITS OWN POLE.
AND SO WHAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO, TO DO IS TO, NEXT TO THE US FLAG, HAVE THE STATE FLAG PUT THE GREENBERG FLAG UNDERNEATH THE STATE FLAG, AND THEN ON THE THIRD POLE FOR THE, HAVE THE UKRAINIAN FLAG, YOU CAN'T FLY THE UKRAINIAN FLAG ANY HIGHER OR LOWER THAN THE US FLAG, UH, AS LONG AS THE US FLAG IS IN ITS POSITION OF PROMINENCE, WHICH OF COURSE IT IS ON OUR FLAG POLE.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING WE DO.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S, THEY'VE BEEN MOVING THINGS AROUND OUTSIDE, BUT WE CAN'T KEEP TAKING DOWN THE STATE FLAG TO PUT UP OTHER FLAGS.
SO WOULD YOU BE RAISING THE FLAG TOMORROW? WE WOULD BE RAISING THE FLAG TOMORROW.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE, THE PROPER CONNECTIONS TO PUT A FLAG UNDERNEATH THE STATE FLAG.
YOU CAN'T, IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE CLIPS DEPARTMENT AWARE OF THIS.
I, I'M JUST, I'M, THIS IS PART OF ALL THE CRAZINESS OF TOMORROW'S AGENDA.
UH, WHAT ABOUT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FLAG? CAN WE TAKE DOWN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FLAG? I MEAN, IT'S GREENBURG TOWN HALL, EVERYBODY KNOWS IF IT'S GREENBERG TOWN HALL, NO.
BUT WHY NOT? JUST NOT FLYING IN UNDERNEATH THE, WE'RE GONNA JUST GONNA FLY IT UNDER THE STATE FLAG ON THE STATE, UNDER THE STATE FLAG.
THE GREENBERG FLAG WITH THE GREENBURG FLAG.
WHY WOULD THAT BASED, BASED UPON, WELL, I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S WORSE TO TAKE IT DOWN, RIGHT? WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FLAG, BUT IT'S WHERE MUNICIPALITIES, WELL, WE ALL KNOW, BUT ARE THERE RULES AROUND THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FLAG, THE WAY THEY ARE AROUND THE STATE FLAG OR THE, OR THE UNITED STATES FLAG? WELL, IF YOU'RE SHOWING THE UKRAINIAN FLAG, WOULDN'T IT BE NICE TO SHOW NEXT TO IT THE GREENBERG FLAG AND THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING FLYING THAT FLAG? YES.
BUT, BUT EVERYONE KNOWS WE'RE IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT UKRAINE IS THE COUNTRY.
THE FLAG OF UKRAINE IS GONNA BE FLYING BELOW THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
INTERNATIONAL LAW DOESN'T ALLOW THAT.
SO IT WOULD BE THE STATE FLAG, INTERNATIONAL FLAG FLAG, US FLAG, UKRAINIAN FLAG.
OH, SO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FLAG WOULD GO ON THE POLE WITH THE STATE FLAG, RIGHT? YES.
I'M SORRY, I MISSED THAT PART.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE CON CONTROVERSY TOMORROW NIGHT WHEN WE JUST SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE SOMEBODY DECIDED WE'RE GONNA, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, LET'S FLY THE FLAG.
AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF POLES MM-HMM.
I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY AROUND IT, QUITE FRANKLY.
SO I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE FOREMAN WHO I SEE PUTTING THE FLAG UP KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.
IT HAS THE EQUIPMENT TO DO IT.
AND IT'S IN THE EVENING, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE, WE CLEAR THAT WITH D V W.
HE, I SEE THE SWEAT ROLLING DOWN HIS FOREHEAD.
YOU SEE HIM HERE? I HERE HE MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF IT.
SO YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE JUST SAID, RIGHT? WOULD YOU DO HEAR HIS BRIDGE?
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YES, I HEARD IT.AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE, UH, THE PROPER CONNECTIONS AND EVEN THERE'S PROPER NAMES FOR THEM, I JUST CAN'T, IT'S NOT COMING TO MY MIND IN MY POINT.
YOU CAULEY PROBABLY HAS A BUNCH, OR HE HAS ACCESS TO THEM TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THE FLAG UNDERNEATH ANOTHER FLAG.
THE SAME THING WE DID FOR THE P O W FLAG TO FLY IT UNDERNEATH THE US FLAG, WE NEED TO FLY THE GREENBERG FLAG UNDERNEATH THE STATE FLAG.
SO JUST IN TERMS OF LIST LOGISTICS, YOU'LL START THE MEETING AND THEN YOU ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AND THEN PEOPLE WILL CONGREGATE OUTSIDE? OR HOW, HOW DO YOU ENVISION DOING THAT? WELL, I, I, I THINK THAT WE HAVE THE MEETING, I SPOKE TO EVA, UH, UH, I SPOKE TO, UH, THE UKRAINE COMMUNITY, UH, THIS AFTERNOON.
AND I, I HAVE SUGGESTED THAT WE HAVE THE MEETING, UM, INSIDE, WE PASSED THE RESOLUTION, UM, AT THE, AT THE, THE MEETING WHEN WE WERE INSIDE, WE LET, UM, FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE THE UKRAINIAN RESIDENT, UH, RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE UKRAINE, UH, SPEAK.
THERE'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE A LOT.
IF THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK AND TALK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES, THEN WE GO, UM, OUTSIDE AND DO THE FLAG GRAZING, UH, CEREMONY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE FLAG GRAZING IS ONLY A FEW MINUTES.
AND, UM, JOAN CASEY, IN THE MEANTIME, IT, UM, GOD, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SMALL FLAGS, UH, UKRAINIAN FLAGS AND, UM, AMERICAN FLAGS.
AND THEY'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IT ALONGSIDE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
SO IT'LL BE AN AMERICAN FLAG AND THEN THE UKRAINIAN FLAG.
SO WILL THAT BE DONE TOMORROW? THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THAT DONE TOMORROW.
SO WHAT, WHAT TO ALAN'S POINT IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ADDRESSING SUNDOWN AS WELL.
SO MAYBE WE COULD PASS THE RESOLUTION, PUT UP THE FLAG, AND THEN HAVE THE SPEECHES, BECAUSE THEN WE WON'T BE LIMITED IN THE, IN IN THE DAYLIGHT.
SO ACCORDING TO THE AGENDA, JUST SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR, IT DOES SAY THAT THE MEETING IS STARTING AT SEVEN 7:00 PM AND NOT 7 37.
THAT THE MEETING, THAT THE MEETING CHIME HAS CHANGED.
WE'LL PUT SOMETHING OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT THAT, I MEAN, IT'S ON NO, IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET SET, YOU KNOW, WE GET SET.
WELL, THE OTHER THING WE WERE GONNA DO IS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, FLY THE FLAG AND THEN AT SEVEN 30 HAVE THE MEETING.
BUT IT MAKES SENSE TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT PART OF THE MEETING AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT'S, AND BESIDES THAT, WE, WE'D BE OUT THERE WITH TRAFFIC.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, COULD POTENTIALLY HIT, COULD BE HERE, HIT THE HIT, HIT ALL THE PEOPLE COMING TO VISIT, TO SEE THE FLAG RAISING BY MINIMIZING THE TIME OUT THERE AND INSTEAD HAVING THE SPEECHES IN HERE.
SO CAN WE GO BACK A LITTLE BIT? SOMETHING, SEVEN O'CLOCK? WE START.
IN HERE WE HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
UH, WE HAVE THE MOMENT OF SILENCE.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE HOW WE HAVE THIS, WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, WE HAVE THE MOMENT OF SILENCE.
SO THAT PRESENTATION IS, WE ADOPT, WE ADOPT PRESENTATION INSIDE TB FIVE.
AND THEN, AND THEN I GUESS WE SHOULD PUT IN HERE, GO OUT AND, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO NOW JUST TO JANELLE'S POINT THAT IT WILL NOT BE LIVE, THE FLAG RAISING WILL NOT BE LIVE ON CABLE UNTIL THE NEXT DAY.
ONLY BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RECORD IT.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO RECORD IT OUT THERE LOUD AS, OR HAS THAT, I WANNA SEE HOW WE COULD WORK THAT OUT.
SO I JUST, I WANNA SEE HOW GOOD OUR WIFI IS OUTSIDE.
I MAY BE ABLE TO CAPTURE IT ON ZOOM OUTSIDE LIVE.
UH, AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK IN AGAIN, UM,
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WHILE THE SPEECHES ARE GOING ON, IF SHE COULD ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, KEY, KEY THAT UP AND SHOW WHAT HAPPENED OUTSIDE.
BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING ON TV, SHE IS AMAZING.
I KNOW SHE, SHE'S GREAT AT WHAT SHE DOES.
THERE'S NO WAY SHE'S NOT GONNA MAKE THIS WORK.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE EXPECTATION BUILDING HER UP AND UP, THE PEOPLE HAVE THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY'RE WATCHING IT ON TV, ON THE CABLE.
THEY, THEY WILL NOT MAKE, THEY MAY NOT, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THE LIVE FLAG RAISING.
THAT'S WHAT ON THEY, THEY MAY, WELL, SHE LIVE, THAT'S WHAT I'M
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SAYING.NOW SHE MAY BE ABLE TO KEY INTO MY ZOOM, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW GOOD THE SIGNAL IS, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THAT.
SO REMIND ME BEFORE WE LEAVE HERE, I GOTTA CHECK THE SIGNAL OUT THERE.
AND AS A BACKUP, EVEN IF WE HAVE A PROJECTION OF THE FLAG FLYING BEHIND US AS THE PRESENTATIONS ARE BEING MADE RIGHT.
I JUST WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MAY NOT, THERE COULD BE, THERE COULD BE A POSSIBILITY THAT IT MAY NOT HAPPEN.
AND ALL OF THIS COULD TAKE REALISTICALLY A HALF AN HOUR.
JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, PARTICULARLY WITH THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THEY'RE GONNA BE.
THERE COULD BE MORE THAN ONE AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA SPEAK FOR AN UNLIMITED PERIOD OF TIME OR IT'S NOT GONNA BE TIME.
SO I JUST WANT TO FACTOR THAT INTO THE EQUATION.
AND KEEP IN MIND YOU HAVE A CEREMONY OF POLICE OFFICERS WITH FAMILIES WHO ARE GONNA BE WAITING AS WELL.
I HAVE A FEELING WHEN THEY HEAR THE SPEECHES THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA MIND WAITING.
IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO WE'RE GONNA JUST UPDATE, WE'RE JUST GONNA UPDATE THE AGENDA TO REFLECT WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED ABOUT THE DOCUMENT, ABOUT ADOPTING THE YEP.
AND IF WE HEAR FROM ANYBODY ABOUT OUR ORIENTATION OF THE FLAGS ON THE THREE POLES, UH, I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR ABOUT IT IF IT'S NOT CORRECT.
SO, SO WE ARE HOLDING OVER THE, UH, ONE WAY STREETS.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THE RIGHT.
SO NOW TB TWO, WHICH IS THE, UM, FARMER'S MARKET, UH, LICENSE.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, UH, COLBY IS REACHING OUT TO HER ATTORNEY OR AN ATTORNEY HAS THE, UM, CONTRACTS AND REVIEWING THEM.
SO I THINK WE CAN STILL DO THAT AS LONG AS THERE ARE NO CHANGES.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANGES, YOU KNOW, HER ATTORNEY MAY HAVE.
SO SHOULD WE WAIT BEFORE WE PASS THAT TO MAKE SURE? YEAH.
SEE THIS IS WHERE WE GET OURSELVES IN TROUBLE.
SHOULD WE JUST DO IT AT THE NEXT MEETING? IT'S NOT, WELL, I MEAN, I'D RATHER HOLD IT OVER.
I'D RATHER WAIT TO SEE IF SHE HAS CHANGES.
IF SHE HAS NO CHANGES, THEN I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO.
I MEAN, NO CHANGES TO OUR CHANGES.
WILL WE KNOW BY, BY THE MEETING TIME TOMORROW MY UNDERSTANDING FROM KRISTA WE, WE SHOULD KNOW.
AND IF WE DON'T KNOW THEN WE'LL JUST HOLD IT OVER.
WE, WE WERE GONNA DO THIS INITIALLY BY RESOLUTION.
AND THEN ELLEN, YOU KNOW, VERY SMARTLY, UH, NOTICED THAT IT HAD TO BE DONE BY LOCAL LAW.
AND, BUT NOW IT SEEMS IT FLIPPED OVER TO OVERSIZED VEHICLES AND HOLIDAYS, RIGHT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE ADOPT IS ENFORCEABLE.
WHEN SOMEBODY GETS A SUMMONS FOR PARKING, AN OVERSIZED VEHICLE IN A PARKING COMPACT CAR, FINE.
I THINK WE'RE FINE, TO BE HONEST.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO BE SURE, THEN WE'D HAVE TO RE-NOTICE IT WITH COMPACT CARS AS WELL AS OVERSIZED VEHICLES.
AS WELL AS UM, WELL WAS THERE AN INITIAL NOTICE THAT JUST HAD COMPACT CARS AND THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT HAD, 'CAUSE IF THAT WAS THE CASE, I THINK WE'RE OKAY.
THE FIRST ONE HAD COMPACT CARS WITHOUT THE OVERSIZED VEHICLES.
AND, BUT IT ALSO REFERENCES THAT WE'RE ONLY CHANGING THE DEFINITION SESSION SECTION.
AND THEN AT THE VERY END OF THE LOCAL LO IT CHANGES ANOTHER SECTION AS WELL.
SO, AND THAT'S NOT IN THE NOTICE.
SO THE NOTICES ARE DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
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WE ASSIGNED YOU SO MANY THINGS.WE'VE SAID ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T WANT TO DO THIS, DON'T SAY A WORD.
WHERE ARE WE NOW? YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NOTICE NOW YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, EXECUTIVE SESSION INTERVIEWS, CORRECT? YES, WE DO.
WHAT TIME ARE THOSE? SEVEN O'CLOCK I BELIEVE.
IS THERE, DO WE HAVE THE AGENDA? 'CAUSE THERE WAS A SPECIFIC TIME.
I THINK SOMEONE HAD TO BE GONE BY SEVEN 30.
I THINK THEY WERE SCHEDULED FOR SEVEN.
OH, I DIDN'T, I THINK I PRINTS AT THAT POINT.
SO YOU HAVE TO BE GONE BY SIX 30 OR THE SCHEDULED TO BEGIN AT SIX 30.
SO IS THE SEVEN 30, ARE THEY COMING IN PERSON? YES.
I KNOW, I HAVE THE NOTICES, FRANCIS.
AND THEN WE CAN GO ON AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
WE JUST PLAY BY EAR, RIGHT? NOT BY TONIGHT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA, PAUL? NO.
SO PO ONE, TWO AND THREE ARE HELD OVER.
NOW WE, MAYBE WE SHOULD INDICATE, UM, ON THE AGENDA THAT, UM, HAS BEEN HELD, BEING HELD OVER AND WE'RE HAVING THE COMMUNITY MEETING, RIGHT? WHAT IS THAT FOR THE ROBIN HILL? YES.
AND THAT'S NEXT WEDNESDAY AT SIX.
IT'S FRANCIS HAS ISN'T MM-HMM.
OH REALLY? YEAH, I WAS IN MEETINGS ALL DAY NONSTOP.
SO WHAT ARE WE, TB TWO, UH, WE WE'RE WAITING TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
SO IS THIS BEING HELD OVER? NO, NOT YET, BUT IT POTENTIALLY OCCURRED POTENTIAL.
DO WE HAVE A FINAL VERSION THAT HAS OUR CHANGES IN IT? I DON'T, I'M SORRY.
DO WE HAVE A VERSION THAT HAS OUR CHANGES IN IT? I MEAN, I ASSUME THAT WENT TO YES.
NO, BUT THAT WAS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY SAYS PER, PER, UH, TWICE PER DAY OR PER WHATEVER THE WORDING I, I GAVE.
WELL, KRISTA MADE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES, SO, WELL, LET'S, LET ME CIRCULATE THAT SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
ALL, I'LL SHOW YOU THE VERSION THAT COLBY HAS.
AND HER VERSION, DID SHE DO UNDER UNDERLYING AND STRIKEOUT? SO I DON'T HAVE TO SEARCH FOR THE CHANGES.
I DOUBT IT, BUT I GOTTA CHECK AND SEE WHAT SHE SENT ME.
YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW, I BELIEVE TOMORROW THERE IS A, UM, ON THURSDAY THERE'S A MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS DINNER IN ELMSFORD.
SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THAT ON THE CALENDAR.
UM, IF YOU'RE GOING THOUGH THAT YOU SHOULD BE, YOU SHOULD RESERVE RSS V P TELL RSS V P I MEAN, RIGHT? OH, THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME.
THEN YOU HAVE A CHOICE OF FOOD, SO, RIGHT.
JUST REMIND ME WHEN WE GET IN.
OH YEAH, THIS IS, UM, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU'RE IN TWO PLACES.
SCOTT, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO EARLIER.
YEAH, UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK, I, NO, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE IN PERSON, THEN YOU HAVE TO LOG OFF OF THAT.
DO YOU WANT TO TAKE ME EARLIER OR YOU WANT ME TO WAIT UNTIL, UH, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO.
HOW LONG IS YOUR UM, YOUR DISCUSSION? MY PART IS, NO, PROBABLY 10 MINUTES.
AND UNLESS THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.
SO WE MOVE INTO GOING INTO, SO DID WE MAKE, MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW? YES.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS, UH, CONTRACTUAL, UM, ISSUES, UH, PERSONNEL, LEGAL, PERSONAL, INVOLVING PARTICULAR PEOPLE.
AND WE'RE ALSO DOING INTERVIEWS FOR DIFFERENT COMMITTEES.
AND THAT'S INTERVIEWING DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND THE CONTRACTUAL ISSUES ABOUT
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CERTAIN PROPERTIES.