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OKAY.[ DRAFT TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD AGENDA WEDNESDAY, April 20, 2022 – 7:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.WELCOME TO TONIGHT'S PLANNING BOARD MEETING APRIL 20TH, 20, UH, 2022.
UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? SURE.
HERE NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBERS URI DESAI AND MONA FRA TAG ARE NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
MS. DAVIS WILL BE A FULL VOTING MEMBER.
BOY, YOU'RE GETTING OFF TO A TOUGH START THERE, LESLIE.
TWO WEEKS IN A ROW, PUTTING IT RIGHT INTO THE FIRE.
UM, DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? THE APRIL 6TH DRAFT MINUTES, RIGHT? NO, I DID.
AARON, WE WENT OVER THAT YESTERDAY ON THE, UM, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE, THE, THE ONE WITH THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.
THE RENAR PROJECT EIGHT SEVEN.
THAT I, AND THEN HOPEFULLY YOU WENT OVER THE TAPE, BUT I MADE A VERY SPECIFIC COMMENT THAT IF MR. STEINS WAS HOPING FOR ANYTHING BUT A N A NEUTRAL AND NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, THAT HE SHOULD BRING BACK A PROPOSAL THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TODAY.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE MY EXACT WORDS, BUT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO THAT.
WE'LL VERIFY THAT THROUGH THE TAPE AND ADD IT IN.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED THEN? SO MOVED.
AARON, IS THERE ANYTHING IN CORRESPONDENCE? UM, LET'S SEE.
JUST THAT ONE MEMO THAT YOU HAD PUT TOGETHER, CHAIRPERSONS TOWARDS.
AND THEN I DID HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM.
DO YOU WANNA DO THE, THAT OTHER ITEM FIRST, PLEASE? SURE.
JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR A MOMENT.
I'M GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN VERY QUICKLY.
THIS IS THE ITEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT REGARDING THE YARD SIGN.
SO LET ME GET THE SHARE SCREEN UP.
SO I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING TO BRING.
YEAH, IT'S ABOUT TO, LET'S SEE IF I CAN ROTATE THIS.
CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? NO, NOT YET.
SO, I WANTED TO BRING TO THE BOARD'S ITS ATTENTION, A SOMEWHAT UNIQUE REQUEST IN THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT OFTEN BECOMES BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, AT LEAST DURING THE 16 PLUS YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WITH THE TOWN.
UM, BUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A REQUEST BY GOTHAM CABINETRY, AND THEY'VE SUBMITTED A YARD SIGN APPLICATION FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 3 0 3 CENTRAL PARK AVENUE SOUTH.
THE SIGN AS PROPOSED, UH, DOES NOT CONTAIN THE REQUIRED MINIMUM OF SIX FEET OF GROUND CLEARANCE AS REQUIRED UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 2 85, 29 0.1 B EIGHT B.
UM, HOWEVER, THE PLANNING BOARD IS AUTHORIZED TO GRANT AN EXCEPTION FROM THIS PROVISION UPON RECOMMENDATION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION, AND THE TOWN ENGINEER.
I DO HAVE A COPY OF THAT RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS ISSUED YESTERDAY, SUPPORTING THAT THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, SUPPORTING THE PLANNING BOARD, APPROVING THE EXCEPTION.
THE MEMORANDUM READS THAT AFTER REVIEWING THE PROPOSAL AND CONFERRING WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT'S TRAFFIC AND SAFETY UNIT REGARDING
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SITE DISTANCE AND TRAFFIC SAFETY, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION IN THE TOWN ENGINEER ALL SUPPORT THE PLANNING BOARD CONSIDERING THE GRANTING OF THIS EXCEPTION REQUEST.UH, I DO WANT TO QUICKLY RECITE THE CODE SECTION JUST SO THAT EVERYONE'S AWARE OF IT, BUT 2 85 DASH 29.1 B EIGHT B THREE STATES THAT YARD SIGNS SHALL NOT EXCEED 12 FEET IN HEIGHT AND THIS ONE DOES NOT.
IT'S SO 126 INCHES HIGH, UM, SHALL NOT EXCEED 12 FEET IN HEIGHT ABOVE GROUND BY SIX FEET IN WIDTH, INCLUDING THE POSTS SIGN PANEL SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM GROUND CLEARANCE OF SIX FEET, WHICH IS WHAT IS NOT BEING MET IN THIS REGARD.
EXCEPTIONS FOR SIGNS MOUNTED AT A LOWER HEIGHT, UH, BY THE PLANNING BOARD ONLY UPON RECOMMENDATION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION, AND THE TOWN ENGINEER.
SO WE HAVE THIS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, UM, BEFORE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS ISSUED.
AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE COMMISSIONER AS WELL AS THE TOWN ENGINEER AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR JUST WANTED TO, THEY THOUGHT ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT, THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS ARE ON IN THE EVENT THERE'S A QUESTION.
BUT, UM, THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT TRAFFIC SAFETY AND, UH, SIGHT LINES, AND THAT'S WHY THEY REVIEWED IT WITH THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY UNIT, WHO INDICATED THAT THERE, UH, WAS NO CONCERN ON THEIR END.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I'M ABLE, BUT, OKAY.
AARON, CAN YOU, UM, A POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR WHY A SIX FOOT CLEARANCE MIGHT BE REQUIRED? UH, SO YES, GOOD QUESTION MR. HAY.
AND ONE REASON IS THAT, UM, OH, JUST SEE THAT MR. SNAGS MUST HAVE BOUNCED OUT AND ADMIT HIM IN ONE REASON.
MIGHT BE, IF THIS WAS CLOSE TO THE EXIT OUT TO CENTRAL PARK AVENUE IN A VEHICLE, WAS LOOKING TO, UM, EXIT THE SITE MIGHT IMPINGE UPON THEIR ABILITY TO SEE EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH ONCOMING VEHICLES.
AND FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT WANT THAT TO BE THE CASE.
THIS IS SET BACK FROM THAT INTERSECTION WITH THE CURB CUTOUT TO CENTRAL PARK AVENUE.
SO WE DON'T ENVISION ANY ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO SITE DISTANCE, EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH.
JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE THIS IS, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THERE USED TO BE A, UM, PHYSICAL THERAPY PLACE ON TOP OF THIS BUILDING UP A VERY STEEP HILL.
IT'S A SMALL, IT'S NOT REALLY EVEN A SHOPPING CENTER.
THERE'S A BILL, THERE'S AN OFFICE ON TOP.
IT'S A CABINET, UH, CABINET STORE, CUSTOM CABINET STORE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? WALTER? YEAH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
YEAH, I'M TRYING, I GOT TO MICHAEL.
I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE WHERE THAT SIX FEET IS MEASURED FROM, BECAUSE ACCORDING TO, IF YOU'RE MEASURING ACCORDING TO THE, THE PERSON STANDING THERE IS 75 INCHES THAT EXCEEDS SIX FEET.
SO WHAT IS THE SIX FEET MEASUREMENT WHERE THAT SIX FEET COMES FROM? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, SO IT'S SIX FEET IN WIDTH, WALTER, IT CAN BE UP TO 12 FEET IN HEIGHT.
I DON'T THINK WALTER, SIX FEET WIDTH WHERE YOU MEASURED, SHOW ME WHERE SIX FEET YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE SIX FEET ON A TYPICAL SIGN, THE LAW SAYS IT HAS TO BE SIX FEET CLEARANCE FROM THE GROUND TO THE BEGINNING OF THE SIGN.
THE REASON OH, TO THE BEGINNING.
SO THAT, THAT POLE, OKAY, SO THAT POLE THERE IS THE PROBLEM.
AND THE REASON THAT NORMALLY IS THE SIGNS ARE MUCH FURTHER OUT TOWARDS, TOWARDS THE STREET THAN THIS ONE IS.
THIS ONE IS BACK FROM THE STREET.
I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE SIGN IS AWFULLY CLOSE TO THAT PARKING LOT ON THE LEFT, AND I WOULD THINK, UM, A TRUCK COULD HIT IT IF THE TRUCK ISN'T CAREFUL.
I MEAN, WOULD ANY SENSE TO MOVE THAT SIGN A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE RIGHT, MORE TO THE MIDDLE OF THAT GRASS MEDIA? SO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, MR. GOLDEN.
AND, AND SOMETHING THAT CAME UP YESTERDAY.
THEY JUST KIND OF QUICKLY WANTED TO, UM, TO DEMONSTRATE APPROXIMATELY WHERE IT WOULD BE CITED ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT WE, WHAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE, WHO'S GONNA OVERSEE THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION, WE CAN RELAY THAT THE, THE SIGN SHALL NOT PROTRUDE INTO THE PARKING, UH, BEYOND THE CURB
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OR BEYOND THE GRASS AREA ADJACENT TO THE CURB.THAT CAN ACTUALLY, IT ACTUALLY SHOULD BE SET BACK A FEW FEET FROM THE GRASS AREA.
THE THERE TWO, THERE TWO ISSUES WITH THAT, MICHAEL, THAT I SEE.
ONE IS LOOK AT THE ROCK WHERE THE ROCK OUT CROPPINGS ARE.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH FURTHER TOWARDS THE STREET YOU CAN DO.
NUMBER ONE AND TWO IN FRONT OF IT IS A MANHOLE COVER.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MANHOLE COVER GOES.
SO I DON'T KNOW, EVEN IF YOU COULD PULL IT FORWARD AND THEN OVER, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS.
LET LET THE APPLICANT FIGURE IT OUT.
I'M SURE THEY DON'T WANT IT STICKING OUT INTO THE PAVEMENT EITHER.
'CAUSE THEN SOMEONE'S GONNA CLIP IT, RIGHT? THAT THAT SHOULD, WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE PUT THAT INTO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, PULL IT AS FAR OFF AWAY FROM THE PARKING LOT AS THEY POSSIBLY PHYSICALLY CAN.
SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU'D BE CONSIDERING VOTING ON ISSUING THE EXCEPTION.
SO IT CAN KIND OF BE CONDITIONAL WOULD BE MY THOUGHT THAT RIGHT.
THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD CONSIDER GRANTING THE EXCEPTION WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? NO, NO.
SECOND LESLIE, UH, TOM SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
O OKAY, BUT DON'T WE HAVE TO NAME THE CONDITIONS THE WITH CONDITION, THE ONE CONDITION IS THAT IT DOES NOT OVERHANG THE PAVEMENT.
OH, I WOULD BE A LITTLE, I I I THINK IT SHOULD BE OFFSET FROM THE CURB AT LEAST TWO OR THREE FEET.
I MEAN WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE, YOU KNOW, TOWN ENGINEER THINKS IS A SAFE DISTANCE, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE RIGHT ON THE CURB BECAUSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DRIVE ONTO CURBS.
THERE ACTUALLY IS NO CURB THAT MICHAEL, THERE ACTUALLY ISN'T A CURB THERE, A PAVEMENT, WHATEVER IT IS.
WHEREVER THE PAVEMENT IS MORE YES.
SO, SO CAN YOU WRITE IT UP THAT WAY ON PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, THE SECOND ONE IS A LETTER THAT, UM, SORRY, IT DIDN'T GET OUT TILL MONDAY.
UH, IT WAS A LETTER THAT OF A RECOMMENDATION FOR A CREATION OF A CITIZENS COMMITTEE, UH, TO INVESTIGATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AS WE KNOW FROM, UM, ELMWOOD, UM, WHEN WE DID ELMWOOD, WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A GLITCH ACTUALLY IN OUR CURRENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING LAW.
AND THE FACT THAT EVEN A PUD WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UH, WASN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE A SETASIDE.
IT'S NUMBER ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, NO MATTER HOW LARGE THE DEVELOPMENT ARE.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE KNOW IS THAT THESE SETA ASIDES, AND AARON AND I WERE GOING OVER THIS YESTERDAY, HAVE PROBABLY PRODUCED LESS THAN A HUNDRED UNITS OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS.
SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE LOOK AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAN THAT.
I PLANNING BOARD DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT ON ITS OWN.
THE TOWN BOARD DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT ON ITS OWN, WHICH WHY I, I'M REC WOULD, I'D LIKE THE PLANNING BOARD UNANIMOUSLY, IF POSSIBLE, TO RECOMMEND THIS COMMITTEE TO THE TOWN BOARD, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WE DID FOR BATTERY STORAGE SUCCESSFULLY AND FOR, UM, FOR, UH, THE ASSISTED LIVING.
ANY, UH, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS IN THE LETTER I WROTE? UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS EXCELLENT.
CAPTURED THE POINTS AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE IT, UH, GO FORWARD.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS IN THE LETTER TO, TO, TO SEND THE LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD? IT'S ALL MOVED.
OKAY, JOHANN, AND THEN TOM SECONDED.
ALL ALL OPPOSED? NO ABSTENTIONS CARRIES.
UH, JUST ONE OTHER THING BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
I PROMISED YOU A SECOND LETTER, UH, ONE ON GREEN ENERGY.
UM, A SIMILAR FORMATION OF A, A COMMITTEE ON THAT AS WELL ON RENEWABLE ENERGY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT SURROUND IT.
UM, LESLIE HAS GRACIOUSLY VOLUNTEERED TO HELP TO ACTUALLY DRAFT THE LETTER FOR US.
LESLIE, OF COURSE, THAT'S A PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND SO THAT IT CAN BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
AND SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH LESLIE ON THAT AND THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING TO DO THAT, LESLIE.
NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, OLD BUSINESSES.
UM, FIRST ONE IS CASE PB 2028 HACKLEY SCHOOL AT 2 93 BENEDICT AVENUE.
IT'S A PLANNING BOARD'S STEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
WE'VE HEARD THIS, UH, APPLICATION SEVERAL TIMES AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO FINALIZE A DECISION THIS EVENING.
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THAT'S RIGHT.UH, ANY COMMENTS ON THE DECISION? I JUST WANTED TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD CHAIRPERSON SIMON, UH, I'M SORRY, CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ.
I WAS LOOKING AT WALTER, WHO I APOLOGIZE, UH, THAT ON APRIL 13TH, THE TOWN BOARD ADOPTED A RESOLUTION APPROVING WITH CONDITIONS, THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS, UH, THAT WERE RELATED TO THIS PROJECT AND, AND THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD THAT WAS UNDER CASE NUMBER TB 20 DASH 11.
UH, THE PLANNING BOARD LAST REVIEWED THIS STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION ON APRIL 6TH AS PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED SINCE THE PLANNING BOARD CLOSED THE HEARING ON THAT SAME EVENING, APRIL 6TH.
SO WE DID PREPARE THE DRAFT DECISION WITH CONDITIONS, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THERE.
WERE THERE ANY SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NO SPECIAL CONDITIONS TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION? ALL THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS WERE CAPTURED BY COMMISSIONER DUCAIN IN THE TOWN BOARD, AMENDED SITE PLAN, APPLICATION, AND DECISION ON THAT.
THANK YOU MR. KING FOR DOING, DOING OUR WORK FOR US.
UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS DECISION? I HAVE, I HAVE A COMMENT, A COMMENT ON THE, ON THIS.
UH, I, I THOUGHT IN OUR DISCUSSION, WE NO, WE HAVE NO, UH, AUTHORITY TO MANDATE ADDITIONAL SIDEWALKS ALONG THE FRONT AND ADDITIONAL SIDEWALKS WILL ACTUALLY BE IN THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN.
BUT I BELIEVE THE, THE HACKLEY AGREED TO SOME GENERAL LANGUAGE THAT WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND WORK WITH THE TOWN OF, UH, TARRYTOWN TO SEE IF SIDEWALKS COULD BE INSTALLED, SOMETHING VERY GENERAL.
BUT WE DID STATE THAT AND THEY AGREED TO, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT AND, UH, POSSIBILITY WITH NO, NO LEGAL COMMITMENT.
BUT THEY WOULD AT LEAST THINK THAT WOULD DO THAT.
YES, MS. GARRIS, THAT'S, MS. GARRIS HAS A RESPONSE FOR THAT.
UM, MR. SIMON, JUST TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENT, THERE IS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD, UH, A SIDEWALK FROM THE, UH, SITE DRIVEWAY, UH, TO MIDLAND AVENUE ALONG BENEDICT AVENUE.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 400 FEET OF NEW SIDEWALK.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY SHOWN ON THE SITE PLANS THAT ARE, UH, THAT ARE, UH, BEING APPROVED.
WAS THAT I MAKE A, WAS THE MOTION MADE TO APPROVE? NO, I'M WAITING FOR A MOTION.
THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FOR THE HACKLEY SCHOOL PB 20 DASH 28 AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
OKAY, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS PB 2020 NEWMAN AT 13 SOUTHWOOD PLACE.
THIS IS A, UH, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AND ALSO A ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDATION.
I BELIEVE YOU WANNA GO INTO A FURTHER DESCRIPTION FOR US, AARON, PLEASE? YES, AS CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ INDICATED CASE NUMBER PB 20 DASH 20 NEWMAN, LOCATED AT 13 SOUTHWOOD PLACE, P O WHITE PLAINS IN THE R 7.51 FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT FOR A PROJECT INVOLVING THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF ONE EXISTING LOT INTO TWO BUILDABLE LOTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING ONE NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.
THE PROJECT REQUIRES THE REMOVAL OF ONE REGULATED TREE REQUIRING A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
NO REGULATED STEEP SLOPE DISTURBANCE OR A WET AND WATERCOURSE DISTURBANCE IS PROPOSED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT.
THE TOWN BUILDING INSPECTOR HAS DETERMINED THAT THE FOLLOWING AREA VARIANCE IS REQUIRED FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT, AND THAT RELATES TO LOT WIDTH.
AND THE R 75 ZONE 75 FEET OF LOT WIDTH IS REQUIRED.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED 59 FEET IN WIDTH FOR THE NEWLY PROPOSED LOT.
THE PROJECT WAS LAST DISCUSSED BY THE PLANNING BOARD BRIEFLY DURING ITS MARCH 14TH WORK SESSION WHERE THE PLANNING BOARD ADOPTED A SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
AS MENTIONED, THE PROJECT REQUIRES ONE AREA VARIANCE AS PROPOSED WITH RESPECT
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TO LOT WITH, AND THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS IS AWAITING OR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH CAN BE DISCUSSED FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT.I'LL NOW TURN THINGS OVER TO THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE TO FURTHER DETAIL UPDATES MADE SINCE THE BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS PROJECT.
AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, EMILIO, ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE YOU TO GO OVER IN YOUR PRESENTATION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IS, UM, ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND, AND, AND SOME OF THE WIDTH IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US IN MAKING A RE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD.
THAT'LL BE, UM, SHEA GRAHAM ON BEHALF OF HUDSON ENGINEERING FOR, FOR THIS ONE.
I THINK, UH, MR. AS IS GONNA BE WITH US LATER.
UH, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES, YOU DIDN'T.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND, UH, BOARD MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS SHAY GRAHAM FROM HUDSON ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICATION OF BIRD 13 SOUTHWOOD PLACE.
UH, SINCE OUR ORIGINAL SUBMISSION, WE SUBMITTED THE TREE PERMIT APPLICATION.
UH, UH, WE PROPOSED FIVE TREES TO REPLACE THE 1 32 INCH TREE BE REMOVED, AND WE REVISED DEMOLITION, UH, TO CLARIFY THAT THE PARKING AREA FRONTING JUNIPER HILL ROAD WILL BE REMOVED.
UM, AGAIN AS, UH,
AND I DO HAVE A YES, I ALSO HAVE A ZONING MAP.
IS IT OKAY IF I, UH, SHARE THIS? YEAH, I'M JUST SHOWING VERY QUICKLY THE LANDSCAPING.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE TREES PUT AROUND FOR SCREENING PURPOSES.
THERE IS ONE TREE THAT HAS TO BE REMOVED IN THE AREA OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY.
AND THEN AS THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY RECALL, THERE'S THIS EXISTING SECONDARY, UH, PARKING AREA OR DRIVEWAY THAT HAS THESE THREE CONCRETE STRIPS THAT MIGHT ACCOMMODATE ANOTHER VEHICLE OR TWO.
UH, THIS IS ALL BEING REMOVED NOW AND THAT WASN'T CLEAR ON THE, ON THE PRIOR PLAN.
UM, AND, AND NOW IT'S SHOWN TO BE REMOVED.
I'LL STOP THE SHARE SCREEN AND ALLOW SHAY TO SHARE.
SHAY CAN SHARE THE SCREEN NOW.
YES, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE CORRECT.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, 81 OF THE, UH, 156 BLOCKS WITHIN THE R UH, 7.5 DISTRICTS ARE NONCOMPLIANT IN TERMS OF LOT WORK.
UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE ACTUAL LOT WITH DIMENSIONS LABELED ON HERE THOUGH.
WE SAW THAT LAST TIME THOUGH, AND, AND IT WAS GONE THROUGH RATHER, UH, IN, IN QUITE A BIT OF DETAILS.
SO THE BOUNDARY, I BELIEVE, IDENTIFIES PROPERTIES WITHIN THE R 75 ZONE AND THE RED SHADING, UM, IDENTIFIES PROPERTIES THAT DON'T MEET THE 75 FEET AND LOT WIDTH.
SO THERE ARE QUITE A FEW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I BELIEVE I REMEMBER MR. SIMON ASKING A FEW FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
UM, I THINK THEY RANGED ROUGHLY IN THE 60 TO 65 FOOT.
AND THIS, THE REQUEST BEFORE THE BOARD, OR ULTIMATELY BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD, IS THAT, UH, THIS PROJECT BE REDUCED DOWN OR THIS LOT BE REDUCED DOWN FROM 75 TO 59 C.
SO IT IS ON THE LOW END OF, OF, OF, OF WHAT'S THERE.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW THAT ARE LESS THAN 75.
UM, HOWEVER, WHEN YOU GET INTO THE FIFTIES, THERE MAY BE A HANDFUL.
MOST OF THEM ARE IN THE SIXTIES.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, UH, MR. GRAHAM, BEFORE I ASK THE BOARD? UM, NO, THAT WAS ALL.
ANY, UH, DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD? UM, NO PROBLEM.
UH, UH, I KNOW IT'S A, IT IS A TRICKY LOT.
YOU'RE NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE WIDTH AS IT IS NOW YOU HAVE ONE PROPERTY, THE REMAINING PROPERTY WILL BE, UM, UH, 7,500 AND UH, OTHER ONE WILL BE 8,000, I MEAN 9,000.
UH, SO THEY'RE BOTH ZONING AND COMPLIANT.
WALTER, WITH, WITH RESPECT TO AREA.
AREA, THEY'RE BOTH ZONING AND COMPLIANT.
YEAH, THEY'RE BOTH ZONE COMPLIANT.
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HAVE WE EVER, HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED AT MAKING THOSE, THAT PROPERTY RELATIVELY THE SAME SIZE OR IS IT THE WIDTH, THE DIMENSIONS THAT PROHIBIT THAT DESIGN? I'M JUST CURIOUS, THE SETBACKS, DOES THE SETBACKS PROHIBIT THAT TYPE OF MORE, UH, MORE OR LESS JUST, UH, EQUALLY DIVIDING THE LAND? UH, THE, IS THE SETBACK REALLY THE, UH, THE ISSUE HERE ON THIS PROPERTY? THE, THE GREATEST, I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A QUESTION OF THE ORIENTATION.THE HOUSES ON THE CORNER OF JUNIPER HILL AND SOUTHWOOD YEAH.
IS SOUTHWOOD AND THE OTHER ONE IS FACING JUNIPER HILL ROAD.
SO IT DOESN'T, IF IF THEY WERE TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF ONE, IT WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR ENOUGH, UM, UH, BACKYARD SPACE.
AARON, COULD YOU JUST PUT UP THE PLAN AGAIN FOR A SECOND TO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I FEEL WE DID ADDRESS THIS IN AN EARLY SESSION.
SO AS I RECALL, IF THEY WERE TO TAKE ANY MORE FROM THE NEWLY PROPOSED LOT, THEN THE EXISTING LOT WOULD BECOME NONCONFORMING AND YOU'D HAVE TO OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ANY OTHER, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? IT'S THE WAY, IT'S THE WAY THAT THE LOT IS CONFIGURED.
MOST OF THE EXTRA LAND IS BEHIND IT ACTUALLY.
SO IT'D BE HARD TO, YOU'D MAKE THE OTHER ONE NON-CONFORMING IF YOU MOVED IT OVER, I WOULD THINK.
MOST OF THAT LAND BEHIND IT IS A HILL, UM, A STEEP HILL GOING DOWNWARDS AS WELL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM, FROM THE BOARD SO FAR? OKAY.
I'M THINKING THIS IS REALLY A ZONING ISSUE, NOT, NOT A PLANNING ISSUE AND THAT WE SHOULD GIVE THIS A NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATION, BUT I'M HOPING TO DISCUSSION.
I THINK, I THINK, I THINK THE SIGNIFICANT THING TO ME IS THAT IT, IT EVEN LOOKS TO ME LIKE A MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS ZONE ARE NON-COMPLIANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR PROPOSAL TO DIVIDE A LOT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S 59 FEET, IT CERTAINLY, IT SEEMS TO ME CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION AND ATTACH TO OUR RECOMMENDATION THE ZONING MAP WITH THAT RED SHADED AREAS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WIDTHS PENCILED IN.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HAVE THE ACTUAL WITS OF THE NON-CONFORMING LOT SO THE ZONING BOARD CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
DO YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION, MICHAEL? SO MOVED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? THAT MOTION, TOM SECONDED IT.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT, UH, MICHAEL'S MOTION? AYE.
FOR POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD? AYE, AYE, AYE.
I JUST WANNA ASK THE APPLICANT, DO YOU HAVE, UH, SHA DO YOU HAVE THE, A PLAN THAT SHOWS THE VARIOUS DIMENSIONS OR LOT WIDTHS FOR THOSE LOTS? AND IF SO, CAN YOU EMAIL THAT IN INTO ME EITHER THIS EVENING OR TOMORROW? YES, I CAN LOOK FOR FANTASTIC.
AND THEN WE WILL ATTACH THAT TO THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD AS REQUESTED BY THE PLANNING.
UH, BARBARA, ARE YOU READY FOR PUBLIC HEARING? TWO THUMBS UP.
UM, LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, COMMISSION.
UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE? YES.
MR. SIMON? PRESENT MR. GOLDEN? HERE.
MS. DAVIS HERE AGAIN, NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBERS CUR DESAI AND MONA FREYTAG ARE NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
AND MS. DAVIS WILL BE A FULL VOTING MEMBER.
UH, GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE TONIGHT'S PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
WE HAVE TWO CASES TO HEAR TONIGHT.
THE FIRST ONE IS PLANNING BOARD CASE 22 0 2 0 2, RIGHT 0 2 0 2 AT 14 HIGH POINT LANE LANE IN SCARSDALE.
UH, IT'S FOR PLANNING BOARD WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
UM, AARON, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR PRESENTATION? JUST VERY QUICKLY THAT, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, THE APPLICANT SEEK A PLANNING BOARD WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMIT
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AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT RELATED TO THE PROJECT INVOLVING THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION OF AN EXISTING ONE, FAMILY DWELLING AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE, FAMILY DWELLING ON THE SAME SITE WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.THE WETLAND WATER COURSE AND WETLAND WATERCOURSE BUFFER AREA ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 25,687 SQUARE FEET AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 18,319 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE WITHIN THE REGULATED BUFFER AREA ONLY.
NO DIRECT DISTURBANCE TO THE WATER COURTS WHERE WETLAND AREAS PROPOSED.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 1,153 CUBIC YARDS OF IMPORTED FILL TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT, WHICH REQUIRES A FILL PERMIT THROUGH THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE REMOVAL OF 16 REGULATED TREES REQUIRING A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD AND HAS PREPARED A LANDSCAPING PLAN PROVIDING FOR THE PLANTING OF 16 TREES AND VARIOUS GROUND COVER AND BUFFER AREA IMPROVEMENTS AS REPLACEMENT.
THE PROJECT WAS REFERRED TO THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, WHICH ISSUED A POSITIVE CONDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION DATED FEBRUARY 13TH, 2022.
THE HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AND ISSUED NO OBJECTION.
THE APPLICANT LAST APPEARED BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD ON MARCH 14TH AS PART OF A WORK SESSION.
THE BOARD AT THAT TIME ASKED THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER DESIGNING ITS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO EXCEED THE 25 YEAR REQUIREMENT, UH, AS PROVIDED FOR IN THE CODE.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
UM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.
I WOULD LIKE HIM TO GIVE A COMPLETE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DO HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN POTENTIALLY SPEAKING THIS EVENING.
WHO, WHO'S SPEAKING FOR THE APPLICANT? WE HAVE MR. GOCA.
AND DO YOU HAVE YOUR PROFESSIONALS AVAILABLE, MR. GOCA? YES, WE DO.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE BETH EVANS AND SHAY AS WELL WHO CAN TALK ABOUT THE ENGINEERING.
I COULD JUST QUICKLY GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT, OR THE NEW HOUSE THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO BUILD.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE DOWN A ONE AND A HALF STORY TUTOR, UH, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY TOTALING CLOSE TO 3000 SQUARE FEET AND REPLACING THE HOUSE COMPLETELY WITH A FULL DEMOLITION WITH A, UH, 6,500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, WHICH WOULD ALSO INCLUDE A THREE CAR GARAGE IN THAT NUMBER.
UH, THE HOUSE WILL BE A TWO STORY COLONIAL.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE INTERESTING FACTORS OF THE HOUSE WOULD BE THAT, UM, WITH THE NEW ORIENTATION OF THE HOUSE INTO THE BUFFER, WE ARE ABLE TO, UM, BUILD A HOUSE THAT IS COMPLETELY SUSTAINABLE BY SOLAR.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE INSTALLING 62 SOLAR PANELS, UH, TOTALING ABOUT 25,000 KILOWATTS, WHICH WILL BE ENOUGH TO HEAT AND COOL THE HOUSE WHILE RUNNING ALL OF THE ELECTRIC.
UM, I THINK THE ENGINEERING PORTION DEFINITELY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE WETLAND, UH, IN TERMS OF THE CALEX AND, UM, CHANGING AROUND OUR WETLANDS OR NO, OUR, UH, CALEX TO NOT ONLY HANDLE 25 YEAR, BUT FROM OUR, MY CONVERSATION WITH SHAY WHO CAN, YOU KNOW, SAY A LOT MORE ABOUT IT, WE'VE CHANGED IT AROUND TO HANDLE A 50 YEAR STORM.
BUT AGAIN, SHAY CAN SAY MORE ABOUT THAT.
AND WE ALSO HAVE BETH EVANS, WHO IS OUR, UM, WETLAND SPECIALIST WHO CAN TALK MORE ABOUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE ABOUT THE, THE WETLANDS.
UH, MR. GO, GIVEN THAT, UH, THE PUBLIC IS SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, OR MAYBE NOT, THEY MAY HAVE COME TO A WORK SESSION, DO YOU HAVE ANY VISUALS YOU CAN SHOW FOR THE PLANS OR, AND ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE HOUSE SO THAT THEY GET A VISUAL, UH, PRESENTATION AS WELL? WOODS? OH, THERE WE GO.
OH, THE ORIGINAL, YOU'LL SEE THE ORIGINAL HOUSE IS ON THE LEFT WHERE YOU ACTUALLY PULL UP ON HIGH POINT LANE, WHICH IS ON THE BOTTOM.
TYPICALLY THE, IF YOU KEEP GOING TO THE RIGHT OR SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY, YOU ACTUALLY HIT A DEAD END.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM THE NORTH END OR OF HIGH POINT LANE.
AND THE FIRST IMAGE THAT YOU SEE WITH THE CURRENT HOUSE IS THE TWO, THE TWO CAR GARAGE.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
THE NEW LAYOUT WILL ACTUALLY HELP OUT WITH THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY, WHERE YOU'LL BE SEEING THE MAIN STORY, TWO STORY COLONIAL OF THE HOUSE, AND THEN THE GARAGE IS SECONDARY.
UM, WE'VE ORIENTATED THE HOUSE IN A WAY WHERE WE ARE CAPTURING AS MUCH SUN LIGHT AS POSSIBLE FACING SOUTH SOUTHEAST, UM, YET
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NOT COMPLETELY FACING SOUTH, WHICH IS QUITE OPTIMAL, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY, UM, BRING US MUCH FARTHER INTO THE WETLANDS BUFFER AND POSSIBLY INTERFERING WITH THE WATERCOURSE, WHICH IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID NOT WANT TO DO.UM, AND AGAIN, THIS WILL BE A TWO STORY STRUCTURE WITH A CERTAIN DECKS IN, IN THE REAR THREE CAR GARAGE, UH, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN 6,500 SQUARE FOOT, UH, NUMBER.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO JUST DESCRIBE THE YES.
OF OUR WATER MANAGEMENT FOR US THEN? UH, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
COULD YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT BIT, MR. GRAHAM, PLEASE? YES.
UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THAT'S BETTER.
UM, REGARDING THE STORMWATER, WE CAPTURED THE ENTIRE HOUSING AND DRIVEWAY AND SPLIT THE AREAS, UH, HALF A PORTION OF THE AREA TO ACTUALLY FLOW INTO, UH, THIS RAIN GARDEN, WHICH HANDLES THE WATER QUALITY VOLUME AND THEN ALLOWS, UH, RAIN EVENT GREATER THAN THE WATER QUALITY VOLUME TO OVERFLOW INTO THIS, UH, STREAM.
AND, UH, THE REST OF THE AREA IS CONVEYED TO THE REAR OF THE HOUSE WHERE IT'S HANDLED BY
UM, UH, HERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE MITIGATION PLAN, UH, WHICH SHOWS, UH, I BELIEVE, UM, THE, THE, THE DIFFERENT, UM, THE SHRUBBERY AND THE PARENTS FOR THE MITIGATION FOR THE PROJECT.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO TELL THE PUBLIC BEFORE I TURN IT OVER FOR QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ, GO AHEAD.
WITH RESPECT TO THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, UM, AS MR. GRAHAM INDICATED, UH, LET'S SEE.
THE APPLICANT'S STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AND DRAINAGE ANALYSIS IDENTIFIES THAT THE STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM WATERSHED ONE A WILL BE CONVEYED TO A RAIN GARDEN DESIGNED TO CAPTURE AND TREAT THIS RUNOFF PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 80 10 G OF THE TOWN CODE.
WOULD THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS SPECIFIC MITIGATION MEASURE BEING SET FORTH IN A COVENANT TO BE RECORDED IN THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE? THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION SUGGESTED BY THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AND IT IS PURSUANT TO A CODE SECTION.
SO I WANTED TO BRING IT UP AT THIS TIME.
MR. GLEER OR MR. BROWN, COULD YOU RESPOND PLEASE? YES.
CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME? I DON'T THINK I FULLY UNDERSTOOD IT.
SO, UM, AS YOU INDI, AS YOU'VE INDICATED IN THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AND DRAINAGE ANALYSIS, UH, THE STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM WATERSHED ONE A WILL BE CONVEYED TO THE RAIN GARDEN, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO CAPTURE AND TREAT THE RUNOFF PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO 80 DASH 10 G OF THE TOWN CODE.
WOULD THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS SPECIFIC MITIGATION MEASURE BEING SET FORTH IN A COVENANT TO BE RECORDED IN THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE? PART OF THE REASON WHY, UH, THIS WAS WRITTEN INTO THAT CODE SECTION IS THAT, UM, A RAIN GARDEN OVER TIME, THE PRO YOU KNOW, THE RAIN GARDEN IS INTENDED TO FUNCTION AS A PORTION OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ON THE PROPERTY OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY MR. IKA ENJOYS MANY YEARS AT THIS PROPERTY OR SELLS IT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
SOMEONE MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THE RAIN GARDEN IS ACTUALLY A FUNCTIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT COMPONENT OF AN OVERALL SYSTEM ON THE PROPERTY.
AND BY CONDITIONING IT AND HAVING IT IDENTIFIED AS A COVENANT FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, IT WOULD BE MADE MUCH MORE CLEARER TO ANY PROPERTY, ANY BUYER OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A FUNCTIONAL STONEWATER SYSTEM AND COMPONENT OF, UH, THIS PROJECT THAT WAS CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING POOL.
GIVEN AARON GIVEN, IF ONCE YOU FILE IT, DOES THAT GIVE THE TOWN THE ABILITY TO, UH, ENFORCE, UH, MAINTENANCE OF, OF THAT? SO THE PROVISION GOES ON TO STATE THAT, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT THAT PARTICULAR SYSTEM AND THE TOWN WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO IN POTENTIALLY AND, AND MAINTAIN IT AND CHARGE IT BACK TO THE APPLICANT IF YOU BE, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING 'CAUSE THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE'VE HAD, UH, CERTAIN THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW,
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HOLDING PONDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HAD TO BE MAINTAINED.AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE THAT BY BONDING THEM AT TIMES.
OVER A PERIOD OF TIME OF PLANTINGS.
WE'VE CLEARLY DONE THAT WITH PLANTINGS.
THE, WE'VE DONE IT WITH PLANTINGS FOR SURE.
THE YES, IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE IN THE COVENANT.
SO IT, IT WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, CARRY THROUGH WITH THE DEEDED AND, UH, BE BINDING TO SUBSEQUENT PROPERTY OWNERS BINDING AND ENFORCEABLE BY THE TOWN.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
I WOULD DEFER TO DAVID ON THAT.
DAVID, ARE YOU, YOU WITH US DAVID? I, I AM.
COULD COULD YOU ANSWER THE, THE QUESTION AGAIN, UH, AS TO WHAT IS THE BEST WAY OF MA MAKING IT ENFORCEABLE FOR THAT RAIN GARDEN TO BE MAINTAINED? THE CONDITION THAT PUT A CONDITION TO CONDITION AND, AND YEAH, AND, AND FILE IT WITH THE CLERK.
WITH COUNTY YOU MEAN I I, I DON'T KNOW THAT FILING IS GONNA MAKE ANY, IF IT'S CONDITIONED I, THERE, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO, TO DOING THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU'VE GOT A RECORD THAT'S ALSO IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, BUT IN THE CONDITION ITSELF, UH, THAT THEY DO IT AS A PLANNING BOARD CONDITION THAT MAY, THAT CAN BE ENFORCED.
SO, UH, MR. GOCA, ARE, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, WELL ONE IS, IS IT AS A CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL AND TWO, IT BEING FILED, FILED WITH THE COUNTY? UM, I'M NEW TO THIS WHOLE FILING.
I WOULD HAVE TO ASK MY ARCHITECT EXACTLY BE I, I'M AGAIN, UM, JUST A, A HOMEOWNER.
UM, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE RAMIFICATIONS OF ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
UM, THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S ENFORCEABLE OR NOT.
I, I ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER TO IT.
UM, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH MY ARCHITECT.
WELL, T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT, UH, TO THIS CALL.
HE WANTED TO, BUT HE HAD A, UH, THERE WAS A A HE HAS TO
LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND THIS.
AND MAYBE THIS WILL HELP THE APPLICANT.
UM, PUTTING THIS ASIDE, YOU KNOW, THE DEEDED AND THE COVENANT, I'M SURE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD'S APPROVAL IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL IS THAT THE APPLICANT MUST MAINTAIN THE RAIN GARDEN DURING THE TIME THE APPLICANT OWNS THE HOUSE.
AND NOT JUST THE APPLICANT, MICHAEL, THE APPLICANT AND SUBSEQUENT OWNERS, THE, THE APPROVAL GOES WITH THE PROPERTY, NOT, NOT JUST THE APPLICANT, MICHAEL.
SO, SO, SO THE, THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE RAIN GARDEN BE MAINTAINED WOULD APPLY TO THE APPLICANT AND SUBSEQUENT OWNERS.
I'M NOT SURE THEN THAT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR A COVENANT IN THE DEEDED BECAUSE MAYBE IT'S JUST BOOTS AND SUSPENDERS OR VELVET.
UM, SOMEBODY TELL ME WHERE I'M GOING WRONG.
I THINK MICHAEL, MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, WHEN THEY'RE DO, WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR TITLE SEARCH, IT MAY NOT COME UP.
SO, TO TO, TO ANSWER THE APPLICANT'S QUESTION, THIS WON'T AFFECT ANYTHING.
IT JUST PUTS A NEW BUYER ON NOTICE THAT THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN THE RAIN GARDEN, UM, JUST AS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO ANYWAY.
BUT YOU HAVE TIME TO GR I WOULD GO, GO CHECK WITH YOUR COUNSEL AND YOUR ARCHITECT.
UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE IT TONIGHT, VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT.
ANYWAY, THIS, WE, YOU'LL HAVE A FEW WEEKS TO DO THAT.
JUST, YOU KNOW, TALK TO YOUR ADVISORS AND THEN GET BACK TO, TO MR. SCHMIDT IN THE, IN NEXT WEEK OR SO.
I'LL, I'LL GET BACK TO HIM BY THAT ANOTHER WEEK.
YEAH, I MEAN THAT LONG MEAN ABSOLUTELY.
YOU NEVER WANNA MAKE A DECISION ON INFORMATION.
UH, WITH NOT EVEN MISSING, I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION.
UH, BUT IF I WILL DEFINITELY GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT AND FIGURE IT OUT.
IF IT'S PART OF THE RAINS WATER SYSTEM, UM, IT SHOULD BE AN OBLIGATION TO EVERYONE BECAUSE ONE PROBLEM ON ONE PROPERTY TRICKLES TO ALMOST EVERYONE ELSE.
SO, WELL, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT WILL BE, IT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL.
SO IN THE END, I, I MEAN, SO I WOULD SAY AS THE OWNER, I WOULD SAY YES, IT'S FINE TO HAVE THAT CONDITION.
CHECK, CHECK, CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.
I WILL CHECK WITH MY ARCHITECT AND CHECK, CHECK WITH YOUR ADVISOR.
WE, UM, LESLIE HAD RAISED YOUR HAND.
YEAH, MS. DAVIS HAD A QUESTION.
WELL, IT, IT DID, IT HA YOU GUYS ANSWERED IT AND YOU BROUGHT OUT THE POINT BECAUSE I DO THINK IT DOES NEED TO BE FILED WITH THE TOWN CLERK, UM, FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU STATED THE TITLE SEARCH AND THAT THE FUTURE OWNERS UNDERSTAND WHAT COMES WITH THAT PROPERTY.
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I WAS GONNA ALSO ASK, IN TERMS OF YOUR SOLAR, UM, THAT'S AN OUTRIGHT, AN OUTRIGHT PURCHASE? YES, IT IS.AND THAT'S WITH THE COUNTY CLERK, MS. DAVIS, JUST TO, UH, CLARIFY.
OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY.
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WANNA SPEAK? YES, WE DO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK.
UH, MR. BOWDEN, I'D JUST LIKE, I'D JUST LIKE TO GET CLARIFICATION, UH, FROM LESLIE COMMENTS.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT'S A PURCHASE OR NOT? IN TERMS OF THE, THE SOLAR, UH, INSTALLATION, IT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO A FUTURE OWNER.
IT, I DON'T THINK THAT THE SOLAR WAS, UH, CONDITION OF US OF OUR APPROVAL.
BUT IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT PASSES TO A FUTURE OWNER OR IF THAT, IF THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT THIS HOUSE WILL, UH, SUPPORT ITS OWN ELECTRICITY IN THE FUTURE, I COULD, I CAN, UH, CLAR NOT, I CAN, UH, ADD ON TO WHAT, UH, MS. DAVIS IS SAYING AND, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY SHE ASKED THE QUESTION.
UH, OFTENTIMES THERE ARE LEASES AND THEN IF THE HOUSE IS SOLD DURING THE TIME OF THE LEASE, THE QUESTION BECOMES WHETHER THE NEW OWNER IS GONNA TAKE OVER THE LEASE OR NOT.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE, THE, UH, OWNER HAS PURCHASED, UH, THE SOLAR PANEL, SO IT WOULD PASS ALONG TO A NEW OWNER.
I THINK THAT WAS A VERY GOOD CLARIFICATION.
UM, MR. SCHMIDT, PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC WANNA SPEAK? YES.
SO FIRST WE HAVE MR. BODEN, THEN WE HAVE MR. AND MRS. P*****K, AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS.
THIS APPEARS TO BE A OFF THE GRID, UH, HOUSE, COMPLETELY DISCONNECTED TO THE GRID.
UM, WHAT IS THE, UH, STORAGE SYSTEM FOR THE, UH, ELECTRICITY GATHERED DURING THE DAY AND USED AT NIGHT? ONE QUESTION.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, WHAT IS THE BACKUP, UH, SOURCE OF POWER? IF THERE IS A FAILURE IN SOME REASONS FOR SOLAR, FOR A COMPLETELY OFF THE GRID HOUSE.
IT'S A VERY, VERY INTERESTING CONCEPT, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S BEING USED IN GREENBERG.
UH, WHY DON'T WE COLLECT ALL THE QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC AND LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THEM ALL AT THE END.
VERY GOOD QUESTIONS, MR. BOWDEN.
NEXT, MR. AND MRS. P*****K, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
GLENN P*****K, UH, 14 CHERRY LANE.
GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION OR COMMENT, MR. P*****K.
P*****K, I SEE CERTAINLY, UM, THE WETLANDS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ON, UH, OUR PROPERTY AND CERTAINLY WHAT, UM, IS BEING PROPOSED.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE QUITE CONCERNED BECAUSE, UM, OF OUR TENURE HERE IN OUR HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD RUNOFFS, UM, FROM HIGH POINT, UM, AT VARIOUS TIMES.
AND OUR CONCERN IS, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW IS ANY TYPE OF RUNOFF ONTO OUR PROPERTY GOING TO BE PREVENTED? YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF PLANS WOULD GUARANTEE THAT THAT WOULD NOT OCCUR ON, ON OUR PROPERTY? OKAY.
WELL, UM, UH, SHE CAN DEFINITELY INTRO, UH, INTERJECT UMS, SIR, WE'RE GONNA WAIT TILL TILL THE ENTIRE PUBLIC, UH, END.
I'M MARK, I HAVE NOTES MR. GOCA, AND WE'LL GO OVER THE QUESTIONS.
I'M TAKING DOWN ALL THE QUESTIONS.
P*****K, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OH, YEAH, WE, AGAIN, THE CONCERN ABOUT THE FLOW OF WATER, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT GUARANTEES, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE, UH, THE PLANS WOULD, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, WOULD, UM, OKAY.
PREVENT THAT FROM ENTERING INTO, UH, OUR GROUNDS.
UM, IT WILL BE ANSWERED IN A COUPLE MINUTES, I PROMISE YOU.
UM, NEXT, MR. SCHMIDT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? I DID SEND THE, THE INVITE OUT TO A FEW FOLKS ARE THE ANGLES.
CAN I, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? UH, I'M OUT OF ORDER HERE BECAUSE I'M AN ARCHITECT AND AN ENGINEER, AND I JUST HEARD THIS PRESENTATION AND I AM AMAZED AND EXCITED FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND I, I, I, I SIGHED WITH MR. BOWDEN FOR MENTIONING THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT, UH,
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UH, STEP FORWARD IN THE WAY WE'RE THINKING.EVEN FOR A LARGE HOME LIKE THIS, THIS IS A COURAGEOUS STEP.
THIS IS A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT HABITABLE SPACE WITH 60 PLUS PANELS.
UH, THIS IS THE STATE OF THE ARTS AND THIS IS THE WAY THAT IF WE WANNA BE RICH AND, AND, AND SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT.
I GIVE YOU MY 100% APPROVAL, AND NOT THAT IT COUNTS ANYTHING, BUT, AND IN TERMS OF THE WETLANDS, UH, IT'S, IF YOU WANT TO OFFSET IT IN THE BALANCE OF ENVIRONMENT, WE ARE, WE ARE PRODUCING FREE ENERGY.
I, I THINK THAT IS AN EXTREMELY VALUABLE OFFSET THAT WE, WE CAN THINK OF.
THAT'S ALL I, I'M GONNA BE QUIET NOW, BUT I, I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS APPLICANT AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, UH, AND I'M JEALOUS THAT I'M NOT INVOLVED.
JUST, UH, FOR THE RECORD, AND I KNOW BARBARA PROBABLY KNOWS YOU ALREADY, BUT SINCE YOUR SCREEN HAS YOU AS MR. GZ ON THERE, WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY YOU AS MR. ESTIS.
HOW BETTER LOOKING THAN GUESS
WE'LL SEE IF HE SIT REMEMBERS THAT WHEN, WHEN HE HAS TO PAY YOUR BILL.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? AARON, DID UH, MR. IVIS ANGLE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? ANGEL? I'M SORRY.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR, OUR EIGHT HIGH POINT LANE, AND WE'VE ALSO HAD, UH, ISSUES WITH THE WATER BACKUP.
UM, THERE, THERE'S A VERY HIGH WATER TABLE.
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A RIVER STREAM UNDER, UNDER OUR WHOLE PROPERTY, AND THEY HAVE A, A STREAM ALSO.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT RAINS HEAVILY, THE WATER BACKS UP AND WITH SUCH A BIG CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND ALSO I KNOW THEY HAVE PLANS TO PUT A POOL IN THE BACK.
UH, WE'RE JUST, UH, ALSO CONCERNED LIKE THE POLLOCKS JUST ABOUT THE WATER BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MANY FLOODS IN OUR BASEMENT AND WE'VE PUT A, UH, A WATER SYSTEM UNDERNEATH WITH PIPES AND, AND MO AND, UH, PUMPS JUST TO, TO KEEP THE WATER FROM, FROM OVERFLOWING.
AND THEN, UH, AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER CONCERN WE HAVE IS, UH, THERE'S BEAUTIFUL, VERY MATURE TREES THAT I WASN'T SURE IF THEY'RE PLANNING ON CUTTING ALL THE TREES DOWN, BECAUSE IT COULD TAKE DECADES FOR THEM TO GROW TO WHERE THEY ARE NOW.
SO WE WERE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY, UM, SOUND HOUSE, WHICH, UH, I THINK IS THE FUTURE.
AND YOUR NAME IS DENNIS, RIGHT? YES, DENNIS AND MY WIFE LINDA IS HERE.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. SCHMIDT? OKAY.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS STARTING WITH, UH, MR. BODENS.
UM, WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO IN TERMS OF ENERGY STORAGE? UH, CURRENTLY WE WILL NOT BE USING ANYTHING TO STORE THE ENERGY.
CONED IS STILL, UM, IT'S A NEW YORK STATE REQUIREMENT THAT WE STILL, IF CONED IS ON THE ROAD, STILL HAVE TO CONNECT TO CONED.
SO IN A WAY, CONED IS GONNA BE OUR BATTERY STORAGE, WHERE WE WILL, WE WILL PROVIDE ENERGY TO THEM DURING THE DAY, BUT AT NIGHT WE'LL USE ENERGY FROM THEM.
AND IN THE END, I THINK IT'S FEBRUARY THAT THEY DO A RECONCILIATION.
WE PRODUCE 25,000 KILOWATTS, WE USE 20,000 KILOWATTS, AND THE NEXT 5,000 IS SOLD BACK TO THEM AT, UH, WHATEVER NEW YORK STATE PRICING IS.
UM, IN TERMS OF WHEN THE POWER GOES OUT, WE HAVEN'T EXACTLY FIGURED THAT PORTION OUT BECAUSE OF THE EXORBITANT COST OF ELECTRIC BATTERIES RIGHT NOW.
UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, JUST THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, UM, A 24 HOUR BATTERY FOR AN ENTIRE HOUSE GOES IN THE RANGE OF $15,000, AND THAT'S FOR ONLY 24 HOURS OF POWER.
AND THERE ARE CERTAIN AMAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR, LET'S SAY AN H V A C SYSTEM THAT'S NECESSARY.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL BATTERY THAT WILL PROVIDE THAT ENOUGH POWER WHEN IT'S NEEDED, NOT JUST LIKE A TRICKLE POWER FOR PASSIVE, YOU KNOW, UM, LIGHTING.
UM, PRICES ARE GONNA, UH, ARE ANTICIPATED TO GO DOWN A GREAT, GREAT DEAL, UM, OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS AS BATTERY TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES AND GETS CHEAPER.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW IT WORKS.
UM, BUT THEN AT THE MOMENT, WE ARE GONNA TRY AND PLAN ON LIKE, USING ANY TYPE OF, UH, PROPANE GENERATOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR POWER, IF THE POWER EVER GOES OUT.
UM, AND THAT SHOULD ANSWER ALL OF THE OFF GRID AND STORAGE.
YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A BATTERY STORAGE LAW IN OUR TOWN TOO, SO IF YOU EVER DO DECIDE TO USE BATTERIES, YOU MAKE SURE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT OUR BATTERY STORAGE.
DEFINITELY DEPENDS ON THE CAPACITY, THE CAPACITY THAT YOU WOULD NEED IN A HOUSE AT LARGE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WOULD BE, BUT I
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UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM IN TERMS OF, IT'S INTERESTING.UH, MR. HAY ACTUALLY SENT A VERY, VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE THIS MORNING, UH, TO, TO MYSELF AND, AND MR. SIMON ABOUT BATTERY, ABOUT BATTERY STORAGE.
THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING LITHIUM BATTERIES TO COME DOWN THAT MUCH, AND THEY'RE LOOKING INTO ALTERNATE WAYS, MORE EFFICIENT WAYS OF STORING ENERGY DOWN BECAUSE IF THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE, UH, SUPPLY FOR LITHIUM, WHICH COMES ESSENTIALLY FROM ONE COUNTRY, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT SCARY, SO THAT'S SO SOMETHING THEY'RE, THEY WE'RE VERY WORRIED ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT I AM, IT'S VERY GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE BUT TRY AND BECOME SELF-SUSTAINING.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST CONCERN, AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM A SMALL HOUSE TO A HOUSE THAT'S OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET WITH A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION AND THE AREA WHICH HAS HAD, UH, WATER ISSUES, IS HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MITIGATE THE, UH, FLOW OF WATER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE DRAINAGE PLAN FOR THAT, IF YOU GO OVER THAT WITH THEM AND, AND WHAT THE, UH, RESULTS OF THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPARED TO THE CURRENT ASBUILT SITUATION? GREAT.
SO IF ANYTHING, WE ARE GOING TO BE IMPROVING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS.
THE ONE BIG ASPECT IS, IS WITH THE CURRENT PLANS AND THE NEW PLANS, WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THE STREAM.
THE STREAMS ARE STILL THERE, THEY'RE STILL GONNA BE FREE FLOWING, JUST LIKE THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
AND SO ANY CURRENT SITUATION WILL NOT CHANGE IN TERMS OF, UM, THE, THE QUALITY OF DRAINAGE TODAY WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE AND THE PROPOSED HOUSEHOLD SHOULD NOT CHANGE BECAUSE THE STREAM IS STILL THERE.
WE ARE INSTALLING COLEX, ENOUGH COLEX ON THE PROPERTY TO HANDLE A 50 YEAR STORM NOW.
UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, UM, UH, ITEMS THAT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE.
AND WE DECIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, MY CONTRACTOR LOOKED AT THE PRICING.
SO THE PROPERTY WITH THE RUNOFF OF OUR CURRENT, UM, HOUSE, THE, OR THE PROPOSED HOUSE, WE WILL BE INSTALLING ENOUGH CALTECH TO HANDLE ALL OF THE WATER RUNOFF FROM OUR PROPERTY FOR 50 YEARS ON TOP OF BOTH OF THE SPOTS OF BOTH OF THE HOUSES.
ALL WATER RUNOFF FROM BOTH OF THE HOUSES ACTUALLY COME TO OUR PROPERTY.
AND, UM, SINCE THOSE STREAMS AREN'T TOUCHED, THEY SHOULD STILL BE CONTINUALLY FLOWING.
UM, UH, 'CAUSE CHERRY LANE, WE'RE DOWNSTREAM, PRETTY MUCH ALL THE WATER THAT COMES TO OUR PROPERTY GOES ACROSS THE STREET, UNDER THE STREET, UNDER THE HOUSE, ACROSS THE STREET OF HIGH POINT LANE INTO THE AQUEDUCT, AND THAT'S THE FINAL RUNOFF.
SO, UM, IF I WAS, IF I WAS TOLD CORRECTLY FROM MY ARCHITECT, ALL THE WATER FROM HIGH POINT, UH, FROM FORT HILL ROAD, TRICKLES DOWN THROUGH FORT HILL, THROUGH ALL THE PROPERTIES, THROUGH THAT ONE MAINSTREAM THAT ENDS ON OUR PROPERTY, THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THE ROAD AND, AND INTO THE A, A, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE WATER, UH, THE WATER, UM, STREAMS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, MR. HAY, YOU HAD A QUESTION AND SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
UH, MR. GRAHAM, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE I GO TO MR. HAY? UH, YES.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON TO, UM, WHAT, WHAT, UH, JUSTICE SAID.
UM, IF I CAN QUICKLY SHARE, UH, THE PLAN AGAIN.
AND I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, SO, OKAY.
SO, UM, AGAIN, UM, UM, IN THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UM, THE WATER RAN OFF OF THE IMPERVIOUS AREAS AND, AND RAN OFF THE SITE, OF COURSE, UM, BUT IN THE PROPOSED, UH, UH, UM, IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ALTHOUGH WE ARE TAKING AIR A, A SMALL PORTION OF THE HOUSE, I BELIEVE HERE, AND, AND, UH, THE FRONT AND ALSO THE DRIVEWAY AND POURING THAT INTO A RAIN GARDEN, WHICH THEN OUTLETS INTO THE STREAM, THAT DOESN'T, UH, DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF WATER GOING INTO THE STREAM.
HOWEVER, THE REST OF THE HOUSE, INCLUDING THE POOL, THE PATIO, AND THE THE COVERED PORCHES ALL GO TO THE CULEX IN THE REAR, WHICH HELPS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF THAT'S GOING DIRECTLY INTO THE STREAM.
SO NOT ONLY ARE WE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF LEAVING THE SITE, BUT WE'RE ALSO REDUCING, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH IT'S A VERY, VERY MINOR EFFECT ON THE STREAM, WE ARE REDUCING RUNOFF TO THE STREAM ALSO.
UH, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
YOU'VE GOT A FAIR AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SERVICE IN, IN THAT DRIVEWAY.
IT'S A PRETTY, UH, LARGE PAVED PARKING AREA.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO AT LEAST IN PART DUE, UH, PIOUS PAVERS THERE INSTEAD OF, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE? UM, BEING THAT THE AREA IS FLAT? I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO.
APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT AND LETTING US KNOW, UH, WHAT, WHAT YOUR DECISION IS ON THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO REDUCE RUNOFF EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TAKE A LITTLE STRESS
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OFF THE RAIN GARDEN TOO.ACTUALLY, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, YES.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE, UH, CLOSE THE, THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING? TOM? I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION REGARDING THE TREES, THE MATURE TREES.
BUT, UH, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON, THANK YOU, LESLIE.
TOM WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE, THE WATER RUNOFF, AND THAT WAS PARTLY AN ANSWERED BY MR. GRAHAM.
SO THE, THE HOUSE AS IT STANDS NOW FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, HAS NO MITIGATION FOR THE RUNOFF.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST RUNNING OFF WHEREVER IT GOES.
AND IN THE NEW, UM, PROPOSAL, THE FRONT IS BEING DIRECTED TO THE WATER GUARD, THE RAIN GARDEN, AND THEN INTO THE STREAM, AND ALL THE REST OF THE HOUSE IS BEING DIRECTED INTO THE CULEX, WHICH FOR THOUGH, UH, THE GRAMS AND THE ANGELS WHO MAY NOT KNOW, THOSE ARE CHAMBERS, UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS THAT HOLD THE RAINWATER, AND THEN IT, UH, WILL PERCOLATE INTO THE GROUND OVER TIME.
SO COMPARED TO WHAT'S THERE NOW, MUCH MORE OF IT'S GOING TO BE CAPTURED AND DIRECTED.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
WALTER, I SEE YOUR HAND, BUT LESLIE WAS CORRECT.
UH, COULD WE HAVE AN ANSWER ON, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE TREES BEFORE I GO TO MR. SIMON? SO THE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN DOWN HAVE BEEN PICKED, UM, DUE TO THE SOLAR, BECAUSE OF THE SOLAR, AND THERE ARE TREES ALL FACING THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY, NOT THE NORTH.
UM, I THINK, UH, DENNIS, UH, WHO'S OUR NORTHERN FACING, UH, NEIGHBOR, THOSE TREES WILL BE STAYING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HANGING OVER THEIR HOUSE.
AND AGAIN, GOOD ROOT SYSTEMS ARE GREAT FOR A PROPERTY.
UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND DO OUR BEST TO KEEP AS MANY AS POSSIBLE, BUT IN GENERAL, THIS HOUSE WILL HAVE NO OTHER WAY OF POWERING ITSELF OTHER THAN SOLAR.
SO THERE ARE CERTAIN TREES THAT ARE COMPLETELY IMPEDE, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF, UH, SOLAR ACTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ONE TREE THAT BLOCKS THE SOLAR, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL LOSE A GREAT DEAL OF EFFICIENCY.
UM, SO THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS WHERE WE WILL BE CUTTING CERTAIN TREES.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE ORIENTATED THE HOUSE AS MUCH AS WE COULD AND MOVED IT AS FAR AS POSSIBLE TO THE NORTH OF THIS, UH, OF THE PROPERTY RATHER THAN MOVE IT TO THE SOUTH.
UM, THOSE TREES WERE ALSO PICKED, PICKED BY OUR SOLAR COMPANY, UH, UM, AFTER WITH THEIR ENGINEER.
UM, MR. SIMON, I ASSUME YOU HAVE A PLAN TO REPLACE THOSE TREES IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT WAS SUBMITTED ALSO BY AN ARBORIST.
I, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THE PLAN IF YOU'D LIKE.
GO AHEAD, SHARE THE PLAN FOR A MINUTE, THEN WE'LL GO TO MR. SIMON, THEN MS. DAVIS, JUST MAKE SURE I HAVE APPROPRIATE PLAN.
ACTUALLY IN THE SITE PLAN SETS THAT I HAVE, I JUST HAVE THE WETLAND MITIGATION PLANTINGS DOES THE APPLICANT, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE I DO HAVE THEM.
WANNA HAVE THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THESE THOUGH? I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN NOW.
SO THE SHADED AREAS ARE THE WETLAND MITIGATION AREAS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT HAS ITS, UM, WETLAND CONSULTANT ON, BUT THEN, UM, IT DOES SHOW TREES TO BE PLANTED ALONG THE FRONTAGE AND THE SIDE.
AND I THINK THEY'RE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED NOT TO OBVIOUSLY IMPACT THE SOLAR, UH, PANEL SYSTEM IN THE FUTURE.
AND IT ALSO SHOWS THE TREES THAT ARE COMING DOWN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TOO.
AND, AND ALONG, ALONG THIS EDGE YEP.
IN ORDER TO GAIN THAT SUNLIGHT.
OH, BE SOUTH? YEAH, SOUTH SIDE.
TO, UH, TO, UH, I'D LIKE TO UH, GO BACK TO THE CONCERNS OF THE ANGELS AND THE P*****K THAT POLE LACK.
I'M SORRY, MS.
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OFF OF YOUR PROPERTY AFTER, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IMPROVEMENT, BUT I LIKE TO SEE SOME QUANTITATIVE DATA.UH, IF YOU CAN GIMME ONE MOMENT TO JUST PULL THAT UP.
UH, IF I COULD, UH, SHOW MY SCREEN.
THIS IS THE TABLE OF THE, UH, UH, THE PRE FLOWS AND THE POST FLOWS.
UM, SO IN THE PRE, FOR THE ONE YEAR, UM, WE HAVE 0.7 T F S, 2.31 FOR THE 10 YEAR AND 3.34 FOR THE 25 YEAR.
UM, AFTER THE, UH, PROPOSED CONDITIONS, IT WILL REDUCE DOWN TO 0.57 FOR THE ONE YEAR, 1.89 FOR THE 10 YEAR AND 2.73 FOR THE 25 YEAR.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE FEE RUNOFF.
BASED UPON THIS DATA, BASED UPON THAT DATA AFTER CON AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE, THERE SHOULD BE LESS RUNOFF FROM THE PROPERTY THAN IS CURRENTLY RUNNING OFF.
OKAY, MS. DAVIS, AND THIS IS GOING BACK TO THE MATURE TREES VERSUS NEW TREES AND EROSION.
UM, IS THERE SOME SORT OF MAKEUP FOR THE AMOUNT OF EROSION? SO THE OLD TREES HOLD THE DIRT, THE NEW TREES ARE, ARE TOO YOUNG.
DO YOU CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE, UH, REMOVING TREES? I CAN SPEAK AARON.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
FIGURED THAT FROM THE TOWN, FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE, UH, YES.
SO THERE'S ABSOLUTELY, UH, EROSION CONTROL AND CONNECTION WITH THE TREES AND THEIR ROOT SYSTEMS. THE APPLICANT'S REQUIRED TO STABILIZE THE SITE BEFORE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT CAN BE THROUGH THE PLANTING OF ADDITIONAL TREES, UH, NEW TREES, PLANTING OF GROUND COVER, AND THE WETLAND MITIGATION PLANTINGS THAT THE APPLICANT WENT THROUGH AS PART OF THE WORK SESSION THAT WE HAD LAST MONTH.
UM, I THOUGHT I SAW, UH, MS. EVANS ON EARLIER AND I WAS HOPING AM ON YOU THERE.
MAYBE WALK THE, MAKE THE WALK THE BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THROUGH THAT REPLANTING SCHEME IN THE WETLAND BUFFER WHERE, OR THE WATERCOURSE BUFFER, I SHOULD SAY, WHICH IS APPROXIMATE TO WHERE MOST OF THE TREES ARE COMING DOWN.
BETH EVANS, THE WETLANDS CONSULTANT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS TO PROPOSE A WETLAND MITIGATION, UH, WETLAND BUFFER MITIGATION PLAN.
UH, THAT TAKES THE AREAS WHERE THE TREES ARE COMING DOWN AND ALSO WHERE THE GRADING IS PROPOSED TO, TO, UH, LEAVE THAT AREA AS A, UH, MEADOW AND SHRUB AREA, WHICH WILL SLOW THE ANY RUNOFF, UH, AS WELL AS ABSORB THAT, UH, WATER IN THE, WITH THE PLANTS.
UM, BY LEAVING THIS AREA VEGETATED, IT'S CURRENTLY LAWN AND IT WILL HAVE A, UH, A DIFFERENT FUNCTION ONCE THE THE HOUSE IS BUILT.
THIS WILL BE, UH, MORE OF A NATURALLY VEGETATED AREA GOING DOWN TOWARD THE WATERCOURSE.
UM, SO RATHER THAN TRYING TO REPLACE IT WITH TREES WHICH WOULD INTERFERE WITH THE SOLAR, WE'RE REPLACING IT WITH OTHER VEGETATION, UH, NOT LAWN AND, AND LEAVING THE ACTIVE LAWN AREAS IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY IN THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
KEEP THE RECORD OPEN TILL WHEN, UM, AARON STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APRIL 27TH, PROVIDED THE APPLICANT CAN GET BACK TO US.
I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT SAID BY THE END OF THE WEEK WITH RESPECT TO THE CONDITION ON THE COVENANT AND THE OTHER ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED THIS EVENING.
OKAY? SO, SO KEEP THE RECORD OPEN TO APRIL 27TH WITH THAT PROVISO.
CAN I HAVE THAT MOTION PLEASE? OH, BOTH.
I, A SECOND FROM TOM, I BELIEVE.
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JOHAN? I THINK IT, JOHAN, IT WAS TOM BEAT, BEAT JOHAN BY A HAIR.I'M NOT GONNA GO THERE, BUT HAIR
UM, DOES HAVE MORE HERE THAN ME, SO I'M OKAY HERE WITH THAT.
OKAY, CARRIE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, CASE PB 2023 ANI FIVE ROBIN HILL ROAD.
IT'S FOR A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
UH, MR. SCHMIDT, YOU WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION, PLEASE? YES.
UH, AS CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ MENTIONED, ANI PD 20 DASH 23 5 ROBIN HILL ROAD, PO SCARSDALE IN THE R FIVE ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT STEEPS A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPROVAL FOR PROJECT INVOLVING THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THE NEW FRONT PORTICO, NEW PATIO AREAS, AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY 2070 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE TO REGULATED STEEP SLOPES, 15 TO 25%.
THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPOSED DISTURBANCE TO REGULATE TO REGULATED STEEP SLOPES IS RELATED TO THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY AND RELATED FRONT AREA WORK.
ALONG WITH THE ADDITION ON THE SIDE, THE PROJECT REQUIRES APPROXIMATELY 100 CUBIC YARDS OF EXCAVATION AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES, UH, CALTECH STORMWATER UNITS TO HANDLE STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM IT NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
THE HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AND ISSUED NO OBJECTION.
THE APPLICANT LAST APPEARED BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD ON APRIL 6TH AS PART OF A WORK SESSION, THE APPLICANT WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON TREE PROTECTION MEASURES AND ON THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM PROPOSED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
I'LL TURN, TURN THINGS OVER TO MR. LEONARD AND MR. UCHI.
COULD YOU FOLKS AGAIN GIVE A DESCRIPTION FOR THE PUBLIC OF THE PROJECT BEFORE GOING INTO ANY MORE, MORE SPECIFIC DETAIL? ABSOLUTELY.
I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, THIS IS THE IAN'S RESIDENCE, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1955.
IT'S LOCATED AT FIVE ROBIN HILL ROAD.
UH, THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOUSE WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT A SMALL, UM, UH, ENTRY VESTIBULE AND A COVERED FRONT PORCH, A SMALL ONE.
AND THEN GOING UP AROUND THE DRIVEWAY IS A PROPOSED ADDITION, WHICH WILL HOUSE A TWO CAR GARAGE, A MUDROOM, UM, A MAIN BEDROOM SUITE ABOVE THAT, AND OTHER RENOVATIONS TO THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.
AND, UM, IN DOING THAT, WE, WE ARE PROPOSING TO CAPTURE THE RUNOFF FROM THE ADDITION AND OTHER PARTS OF THE PROPERTY INTO CALL TEXTS THAT ARE GONNA BE LOCATED HERE AND HERE THAT OUR ENGINEER CHRIS TAGE, WILL, UM, REVIEW WITH YOU SOON.
UH, THIS IS THE AREA UP AT THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD THE ADDITION.
THERE'S CURRENTLY A GARAGE OVER, UH, ACCESSED INTO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
AND THE AREA WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY MOSTLY WHERE THE CURRENT PAVING IS RIGHT NOW HERE.
SO THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE AN ADDITION COMING OFF HERE.
YOU'LL SEE TWO GARAGE DOORS AND AN ENTRANCE INTO THE MUDROOM.
THIS IS THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
THE ADDITION WILL BE OVER ON THIS RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND THERE'S A TREE THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING.
WE ACTUALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE AS IT TURNS OUT, IT IS A LITTLE BIT TOO CLOSE TO WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE TO MOVE THIS SMALL TREE FURTHER TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND KEEP IT OUT OF THE WAY, UH, OF THE CONSTRUCTION PERMANENTLY.
AND WE'LL ALSO DO ALL OF THE REGULATIONS ABOUT PROTECTING THE TREE DURING CONSTRUCTIONS, UH, AS REQUIRED.
SO HERE IS THE, UH, THE OVERALL SITE PLAN.
AGAIN, THE ENGINEER WILL DISCUSS THE, UH, PROPOSED CALTECH STORMWATER SYSTEMS. THE AREAS IN PINK ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD, UH, THAT ARE FULLY ENCLOSED.
THAT'S THE NEW FRONT ENTRYWAY HERE WITH A OPEN COVERED PORCH HERE.
UH, THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE SLIGHTLY MODIFIED SO WE CAN ACCESS INTO THE NEW GARAGE DOORS, WHICH WILL BE HERE.
UH, A NEW ENTRANCE TO A MUD ROOM WILL BE HERE, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY PASS THROUGH TO THE BACKYARD, BUT IT'LL GIVE US A WAY TO GET INTO THE HOUSE AND THEN UP DIRECTLY INTO THE KITCHEN WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH OTHER ROOMS TO DO THAT.
UM, THERE'LL BE AN ACCESS TO THE REAR, TO THE REAR YARD, UH, TO A SMALL PATIO SPACE WITH STAIRS
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THAT WILL GO UP INTO THE BACKYARD.THIS IS LIKE A GARDEN PATIO WITH A FIVE FOOT WALL AROUND IT.
AND THERE'S THE TREE IN QUESTION.
IT IS CURRENTLY IN ABOUT THIS LOCATION, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S WHERE THE, IT'S WHERE THE STAIRS ARE COMING UP.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE IT BACK OVER HERE.
IT STILL LEAVES A NICE, UH, OPEN BACKYARD FOR MY CLIENT.
AND, UH, YOU SEE THE PROPOSED FENCING AND PROTECTION THAT WE PUT AROUND THAT.
UM, THIS IS THE LOWER LEVEL AS YOU COME UP THE DRIVEWAY HERE ARE THOSE GARAGE DOORS I TALKED ABOUT.
THIS IS THE MUD ROOM THAT COMES IN FROM THE FRONT, AND YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT THROUGH OUT TO THE BACK.
GREAT DROP ZONE FOR KIDS TO COME AND COME AND GO, YOU KNOW, FROM THE HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S IN THE GARAGE OR FROM THE, FROM SCHOOL AND UP THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, THIS LITTLE AREA HERE IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA CONSTRUCT A STAIRWAY TO GET YOU UP INTO THE KITCHEN.
SO, UH, SO THIS IS A HALF A FLIGHT DOWN FROM, FROM THE MAIN LIVING LEVEL.
AND THE BEDROOM LEVEL IS A FULL STORY ABOVE THIS BASEMENT LEVEL, WHICH WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO CONVERT THE EXISTING GARAGE INTO A MUCH NEEDED FAMILY SPACE FOR THE CHILDREN AND, AND THE FAMILY TO, UH, TO HAVE THE UPPER FLOOR IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT ENTRY, UH, THE COVERED PORCH IS HERE.
IT'S A PRETTY SMALL ENTRYWAY, BUT IT GETS 'EM A POWDER ROOM ON THIS LEVEL WHERE THERE CURRENTLY ISN'T ANY A COAT CLOSET, WHICH THEY COULD CERTAINLY USE.
LIKE I SAID, HOUSES BUILT IN 1955 DIDN'T REALLY HAVE CONCERNS FOR THESE ITEMS THAT WE, THAT WE NEED TODAY.
UM, AND THE ADDITION, THE MAIN ADDITION OFF THE BACK IS GONNA BE A, A PRIMARY BEDROOM, A SMALL HOME OFFICE SPACE, AND, UH, RENOVATION TO ANOTHER BATHROOM THERE.
LIKE AARON MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, WE DID GO TO THE HISTORIC BOARD LAST WEEK ON THE 12TH, I BELIEVE.
AND THEY HAD NO ISSUES WITH WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING.
ARCHITECTURALLY, IT'S REALLY NICE KIND OF, UH, FACELIFT FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TIRED 1950S HOUSE.
SO THERE'S OUR ROOF LINES VERY MUCH IN CONCERT WITH, WITH THE HOUSE THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.
NOT TOO MUCH OF A, A MASSIVE VISUAL IMPACT ON, ON ANYBODY.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, OR I'LL PASS IT ALONG TO CHRIS.
CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN? YES, PLEASE.
SO THIS IS, UH, MY NAME IS CHRIS SUIC.
I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT HOMEBOY PLAINS.
UM, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, AS TIM HAD ALLUDED TO, UH, IS A SERIES OF CALTECH UNITS, UH, A TOTAL OF SIX.
WE HAVE TWO HERE, WHICH PREDOMINANTLY PICK UP THE DRIVEWAY AND THE NEW ADDITION AREA.
UH, AND THEN THE BALANCE OF FOUR ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ARE PICKING UP THE, ORIGINALLY WE'RE PICKING UP THE FRONT PORTIONS OF THE HOUSE.
UH, BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM THE WORK SESSION OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, WE HAVE INCREASED THE, UH, LOCATIONS OF DOWNSPOUTS THAT WE'RE COLLECTING TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE HOUSE.
SO WE'RE PICKING UP THE BACK OF THE HOUSE NOW, THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, EXCUSE ME, AND THE, AND THE, AND THE NEW BACK OF THE HOUSE HERE.
SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY INCLUDING ALL OF THE RUNOFF OFF THE ROOF AND DIRECTING THAT TO THE INFILTRATION SYSTEMS. UM, ALSO AS A RESULT OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE LAST WORK SESSION, WE, UH, I PROVIDED TODAY THE CALCULATIONS THAT SHOW THAT THIS COLLECTIVE SYSTEM WILL MA MITIGATE FOR THE 50 YEAR STORM.
WE, UM, WHEN I DO MY CALCULATIONS, UH, I BASE IT ON THE VOLUMETRIC WATER THAT COMES OFF, NOT JUST A PEAK INSTANTANEOUS RUNOFF, WHICH IS A FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, UH, WHICH IS WHY THIS SYSTEM IS ABLE TO, AS IT WAS DESIGNED, ABLE TO CONVEY, UH, MITIGATE FOR THE 50 YEAR STORM.
UM, THE, THE PLANS HERE AND THE HATCHES ARE THE AREAS THAT WE ARE DISTURBING AS A RESULT OF THE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH ARE IN THE 15 TO 25% SLOPES.
UH, THE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS IS JUST REBUILDING THE DRIVEWAY, THE ACCESS THAT WE NEED TO REBUILD THE GARDEN WALL.
UH, THIS AREA AGAIN, IS REALLY JUST CONSTRUCTION, UH, ACTIVITIES.
IT'LL BE REPLACED ESSENTIALLY IN KIND.
UM, AND, AND FOR THE MOST PART, THE SAME HERE, ALL THESE AREAS THAT ARE BEING DISTURBED THERE, UH, LAWN AREAS WILL BE RESTORED TO LAWN AREAS.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OTHER PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE NEW DRIVEWAY IS RIGHT AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT IS.
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IS THAT OKAY IN AN RF SEVEN FIVE TO DO THAT WITHOUT A VARIANCE? SO, UH, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE, A, UH, BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE REVIEWED, BUT I, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY, IF THEY'RE GOING NO CLOSER THEY THAN THE EXISTING, THEY, UH, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT, IF THE APPLICANT, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT.I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN.
MR. LANNER, WOULD YOU PUT, PUT UP YOUR, UH, PROPOSAL AGAIN, THE, THE SITE PLAN AGAIN, PLEASE? SURE.
I DID HAVE A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH ANTHONY FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BACK BEFORE WE STARTED, UM, DESIGNING THIS.
AND I, I GOT A POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM HIM, WHICH IS WHY I WENT THIS FAR WITH IT.
SO, UM, AND I BELIEVE THEY DID REVIEW THE PLANS BEFORE WE CAME HERE.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S CLOSER TO THE DR TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
THERE'S NO, THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I CALLED HIM.
I WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS A SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR THAT.
AND I WAS TOLD THERE IS THAT THIS WAS ADEQUATE.
SO WHAT I'LL DO IS, UM, IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO CLOSE THE HEARING TONIGHT, I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE TOMORROW MORNING AND GET A RESPONSE OUT TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS WITH RESPECT TO THIS QUESTION.
OH, CLEARLY THERE'S A, THERE IS NORMALLY A SETBACK REQUIREMENT ON DRIVEWAYS IN R SEVEN FIVE.
THE ONLY PLACE THERE WAS A R FIVE, ISN'T THAT CORRECT? DAR OH, AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHY, UH, THIS PROPERTY DOES FALL WITHIN THE R FIVE ZONING DISTRICT.
THERE'S NO SETBACK? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
OKAY, BECAUSE THAT EXPLAINS IT.
SO IT'S IN R FIVE, THAT'S THE REASON WHY.
THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE, UM, TO THE PLAN FOR THE, UH, THE CALEX, THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM FOR A SECOND.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, NONE OF THIS DRAINAGE SYSTEM EXISTS AT ALL RIGHT NOW FROM THE EXISTING HOUSE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
ALL OF THIS IS A PLUS FOR, FOR THE DRAINAGE FROM WHERE THE AS BILL SITUATION? THAT'S CORRECT.
I'M GONNA OPEN UP TO THE, UP TO THE, UH, BOARD.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK TOM.
TOM, GO AHEAD AND PLEASE TAKE DOWN THE, UH, PLAN.
'CAUSE I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY OTHERWISE.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, THANK MR. LEONARD AND MR.
PARDON MY PRONUNCIATIONS FOR, UH, VERY CLEAR, THOROUGH, AND, UH, EFFICIENT PRESENTATIONS.
OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? NO.
HOW ABOUT THE, UH, PUBLIC? I BELIEVE MR. BODEN WISHES TO SPEAK MR. BOWDEN.
UM, WHAT COLOR IS THE ROOF GOING TO BE? THE NEW PREFERRED COLOR FOR ROOFS IS WHITE.
I HAVE PAINTED ONE SECTION OF MY ASPHALT SHINGLED ROOF WHITE JUST TO SEE HOW IT LOOKS.
AND I NOTICED THAT MANY INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS HAVE PAINTED THEIR ROOFS WHITE IN VIEW OF GLOBAL WARMING AND CONSERVING, UH, ENERGY FOR COOLING.
UM, HAS THIS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION ON NEW CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS LIKE THIS TO HAVE THE ROOF BE WHITE? THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND THEN I HAVE THEM ANSWER IT.
I JUST WANNA SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. BOWDEN? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T BELIEVE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYONE ELSE THAT'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT IF THERE IS SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT WISHES TO NOW WOULD BE THAT TIME.
MR. LANNER, COULD YOU ANSWER MR. BOWDEN'S QUESTION THEN? CERTAINLY.
UH, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON A WHITE ROOF.
WE'RE PLANNING ON A WHITE HOUSE.
I COULD TELL YOU THAT ALL THE SIDING IS GOING TO BE WHITE.
JUST CURRENTLY A, UH, THAT THE ROOF IS NOT A COMPLETELY BLACK ROOF.
IT'S A, YOU KNOW, MORE IN THE GRAY FAMILY AND IT'S NOT AN OLD ROOF.
WE'RE PLANNING ON MATCHING THAT EX THAT SAME EXACT ROOF.
THAT, THAT COLOR SCHEME YOU SEE THERE IS BASICALLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE.
I MEAN, TO, TO MR. TO, TO MR. BODEN'S POINT, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS GOING FORWARD PEOPLE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS YOU NOW CAN GET, UH, ROOF TILES THAT ARE ACTUALLY SOLAR PANELS AND THEY LOOK JUST LIKE REGULAR ROOF TILES.
I, I DON'T KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THEY ARE.
I ASSUME IT'S STILL VERY EXPENSIVE, BUT CLEARLY
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IT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR TOWN BEGIN TO PUSH.UH, YOU KNOW, IN NEW CONSTRUCTION WE'VE BEEN PUSHING GREEN ROOFS.
WE SHOULD BE PUSHING SOLAR ROOFS AS WELL.
I THINK NEW YORK STATE'S GONNA BE HELPING YOU OUT WITH THAT VERY SHORTLY.
YOU THINK I COME AND TRUST ME, THAT'S WHAT ALL MY, I SAW A PRESENTATION THE OTHER DAY AS DID MR. HAY WE'RE BOTH IN A PRESENTATION THE OTHER DAY WHERE THEY SAID THEY WILL BE BANNING ALL GAS WITHIN ABOUT 30 YEARS, ALL GAS, WHICH MEANS OLD HOUSES, EVERYTHING AND GONNA HAVE TO BE CONVERTED.
MR. HAY, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I SAY, WELL, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE MANDATING THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION, AT LEAST LEAVE AREAS, UH, DESIGNED TO HAVE SOLAR PANELS PUT ON, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE MANDATED AND BE PART OF THE CODE.
AND THEN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE NEXT CODE CYCLE OR THE ONE AFTER THAT, BUT WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT.
WELL, I'M, I'M HOPING THAT, THAT OUR, OUR TOWN LEAD LEADS LEADS THE WAY IN, IN THAT.
UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN TILL THE 27TH, AARON, THE 27TH? THAT'S CORRECT.
CAN I HAVE THAT MOTION? PLEASE? DON'T ALL SPEAK AT ONCE.
ALL OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS? NONE.
I WOULD THINK WE'D PUT THIS ON FOR WORK SESSION.
DO WE KNOW WHEN THE FOURTH OR THE, OR THE SE SECOND MEETING IN MAY THE FOURTH? WE WOULD HAVE THIS ON FOR THE FOURTH FOR DECISION.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? THAT WAS TOM SECOND.
MR. SIMON SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
BY MR. SNAGS, I BELIEVE NOT A NO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH BARBARA, TO THIS EVENING.
HAVE A GOOD EVENING AND WE'RE GONNA GO BACK STRAIGHT INTO THE LAST SESSION.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? THANK YOU.
YOU YES, MR. BLAND? UM, I, I I DON'T, DID I MISS THE ZICO? UH, NO, NO.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, IT'S THE LAST THING ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.
WE HAVE ONE MORE CASE AND THEN IT THEN ZKO.
YEAH, WE'VE ONLY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, NOT THE MEETING.
WE'RE NOW GOING BACK INTO WORK.
SO THAT'S STILL GOING TO HAPPEN.
JUST JUST SO YOU KNOW MR. BLAND, SO I CAN, CAN I WATCH THAT? STILL? ABSOLUTELY CAN WATCH IT.
YOU JUST CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT.
LIO, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME.
PB 21 0 8, THE JAZZ SUBDIVISION ON CLAREDON ROAD IN SCARSDALE.
IT'S A PRELIMINARY, UH, SUBDIVISION PLANNING BOARD, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND WEST WATERCOURSE PERMIT.
UM, AND WE NEED TO RECOMMEND TO THE Z B A AND ALSO DO SEEKER THIS EVENING.
IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S A, IT'S, UH, I I DO HAVE, UH, SOME OPENING REMARKS IF I MAY.
CHAIRPERSON? YES SIR, GO AHEAD.
SO AS YOU MENTIONED, CASE NUMBER PV 2108 GZ LOCATED ALONG CLARENDON ROAD, PO OF SCARSDALE WITHIN THE R 7.51 FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT.
AS CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ INDICATED, THE APPLICANT SEEKS PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT APPROVALS RELATED TO A PROJECT INVOLVING A PROPOSAL TO, TO COMBINE TWO EXISTING TAX LOTS TO CREATE ONE LOT FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTING A NEW APPROXIMATELY 2000 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY 334 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE TO 15 TO 25% SLOPES APPROXIMATELY 380 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE TO 25 TO 35% SLOPES AND APPROXIMATELY 94 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE TO 35% AND GREATER SLOPES.
THE WATERCOURSE BUFFER AREA ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 3,200 SQUARE FEET, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 350 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY 60 CUBIC YARDS OF EXCAVATION TO CARRY OUT THE PROJECT.
NO REGULATED TREES ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
UH, THE PROJECT, HOWEVER, AS PROPOSED REQUIRES TWO AREA VARIANCES FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS RELATED
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TO LOT AREA AND LOT WIDTH.THIS PROJECT WAS LAST DISCUSSED BY THE PLANNING BOARD ON MARCH 14TH, AT WHICH TIME THE BOARD ASKED THE APPLICANT TO IDENTIFY O IF OTHER UNDERSIZED LOTS EXIST IN THE R SEVEN FIVE ZONE WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION DRAWINGS OF THE PROPOSED HOME IN ORDER TO COMPARE WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THE BOARD ALSO DECLARED ITS INTENT TO SERVE AS LEAD AGENCY FOR PURPOSES OF SEEKER REVIEW.
SINCE THAT TIME, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS ISSUED NO OBJECTION.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD AT THIS TIME MAY WISH TO VOTE TO DECLARE ITSELF LEAD AGENCY FOR PURPOSES OF SEEKER REVIEW.
I'LL ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION RIGHT NOW.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO DECLARE ITSELF LEAD AGENCY? I'LL MOVE MR. HAY.
MR. SIMON, THIS IS BECOMING A TAG TEAM.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SUGGEST WHEN WE GETTING READY TO TAKE A VOTE IS FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE THEMSELVES OFF MUTE.
CARL AND I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE ALWAYS READY.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE ALWAYS OFF MUTE.
UM, ALSO WE HAVE TO DECLARE THIS AN UNLISTED ACTION.
MAY, MAY I HAVE THAT MOTION PLEASE? SO MOVED.
MS. DAVIS SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
OKAY, MR. ESTIS, I THINK THE, THE, OH, AARON, YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY.
AND MR. ALSO, NOW THAT, UH, THE BOARD HAS ESTABLISHED ITSELF AS LEAD AGENCY, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT ARE YOU PUTTING ON MR. WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT MR. ZAPPA'S SCREEN? THAT'S NOT MINE.
SO, UH, NOW THAT THE BOARD'S ESTABLISHED ITSELF AS LEAD AGENCY AND IDENTIFIED AND CLASSIFIED THE PROJECT AS AN UNLISTED ACTIONS STAFF HAS PREPARED A DRAFT NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING, AND THAT WAS CIRCULATED IN YOUR PACKAGES.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO DECLARE THE, A NEGATIVE DECLARATION ON THIS PROJECT UNDER SEEKER? SO MOVE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND MR. HAYES SECONDS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS DONE.
WE'LL MAKE SURE WE, WE TRANSMIT THAT TO THE ZONING BOARD AS WELL.
AND MR. FREE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY OR WAS ONLY ABOUT THAT? NO, IT WAS JUST ABOUT THE NECK DECK.
I WANTED TO SEE IF MR. FRIED HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.
SO, UH, MR. ESCALADES IS HERE THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, AND TO GIVE US AN UPDATE WITH RESPECT TO THE REQUEST FROM THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS THE WORK SESSION.
FOLLOWING YOUR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, THE BOARD SHOULD CONSIDER ISSUING A ITS RECOMMENDATION TO THE Z B A ON THE TWO AREA VARIANCES RELATED TO LOT AREA AND LOT WIDTH.
SO I THINK MR. ESCAL IS THE LAST TIME.
I THINK THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CONCERN, THAT THIS WAS AN UNDERSIZED LOT SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERSIZED RELATIVE TO THE ZONE.
SO WE ASKED YOU TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT AN AREA MAP AND SHOW US WHAT THE, WHAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES WERE RELATIVE TO THE ZONE.
AND I THINK YOU'VE LISTED THEM AND CAN WE PUT UP THAT EXHIBIT? YEAH, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.
I'M, I I'M WAITING FOR THE MAP BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT BEHIND ME.
AND IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE IN TERMS OF, UH, EVEN SURPRISED US WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE, UH, THE VARIETY OF COMMONALITY THAT WE HAVE WITH THE UNDERSIZED LOTS.
AND I HAVE THE TAX, UH, SHEETS FOR ALL OF THEM, AND THEY AVERAGE FROM, UH, UH, A HIGH 69 TO A LOW OF JUST ABOVE 6,050, WHICH IS LOWER THAN WHAT WE ARE, UH, AS WHEN WE COMBINED THE TWO LOTS.
SO THIS, THIS WAS AN EYE OPENER TO, TO, TO ME AND THE OWNER WHEN WE, WHEN WE ACTUALLY FOUND THE YELLOW, OF COURSE, IS WHERE WE ARE.
AND THE, THE RED ARE THE, THE UNDERSIZED, THE SUBSTANDARD LOTS WITH RESPECT TO THE 7,500 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
AND LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT 72, THEY'RE NOT 74, THEY'RE 62, 63, 69, 6,000.
UM, AND SO, SO IT IS A, IT IS ENDEMIC, UH, UH, THAT THIS SIZE IS
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PROBABLY MORE THE NORM, UH, THAN THE EXCEPTION.UM, AND IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT YOU DESCRIBE, UH, UH, IN NEED FOR THIS LOT, WHICH IS THE STEEP SLOPE, UH, UH, UH, UH, PER PERMIT AND THE WETLANDS, THE, THE WETLANDS I THINK WAS DISCUSSED LAST TIME.
THERE'S A BROOK THAT RUNS ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, UH, OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT'S NEXT TO US.
SO THE IMPACT TO THAT HOUSE, UM, UH, TO THAT BROOK WOULD REALLY BE NEGLIGIBLE.
UH, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE NORMAL, UH, EROSION CONTROL MEASURES AROUND OUR PERIMETER.
UH, AND OF COURSE THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER WIDTH OF HOUSE BEFORE ANY KIND OF EROSION CAN MAKE IT TO THAT BROOK.
SO I, UH, AND, AND ALL OUR PA ALL OUR DR UH, DRAINAGE AND PATH OF FLOW IS TOWARDS THE FRONT, NOT TOWARDS, TOWARDS THE STREET SIDE RATHER THAN WHERE THE ARROW IS, THE ARROW POINTS TO THE BROOK.
UH, SO ANY, ANY, ANY FLOW WILL RUN TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE.
UM, THE, THE AMOUNT OF EXCAVATION THAT HAS TO BE DONE IN THE 25 TO 35, UH, PERCENT SLOPE IS MINIMUM.
IT'S BETWEEN FOUR AND 500 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE ONLY REASON WHY WE INSISTED UPON THAT IS TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF A BACKYARD IN, UH, FOR, FOR THE HOUSE.
THE HOUSE SITS TOTALLY IN THE, UH, FLAT AREA OF THE PROPERTY, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CULTEC IMPROVEMENTS ARE PLACED IN THE FRONT.
IN ADDITION, THE DRIVEWAY, UH, WILL HAVE SIX INCHES OF IN THE BACK AND IN THE FRONT, MY APOLOGIES, THERE'S TWO IN THE BACK AND, AND FOUR IN THE FRONT.
AND THE, THE ADDITION OF, UH, THE, THE, THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE A PERMEABLE TE TE TECHNOLOGY, AND IT GIVES US SIX, SIX INCHES OF, OF BASE OF GRAVEL, 30% OF OF WHICH IS CONSIDERED TO BE STORAGE.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, UM, OF, OF THE, OF THE WATER COMING OUT OF THIS PROPERTY BEFORE AND AFTER, UH, IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THREE TIMES THE VOLUME THAT IS REQUIRED BY CODE.
SO IF WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HUNDRED, UH, OF STORAGE, WE NOW WILL HAVE 300, UH, PROGRAMMED INTO OUR DESIGN.
SO THE CONCEPT IS, UH, TO SHOW EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE EXCEEDED IN THE CAPACITY TO STORE, TO STORE THE, THE, THE STORM WATER.
PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT YOU HEARD WITH THE, WITH THE SOLAR HOUSE THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED.
IT'S THE SAME, THE SAME LOGIC, THE SAME APPROACH, THE SAME ENGINEERING THINKING.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THE HOUSE IS, IS A VERY, UH, REASONABLE 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS OUT OF CHARACTER TO THE AREA.
UH, IN FACT IS PROBABLY THE, THE AVERAGE SIDE, UH, SIZE THAT YOU WOULD FIND, UM, AND ITS ARCHITECTURE IS, IS QUITE, UH, CHARMING.
I THINK IT'S, UH, IT FITS IN, UH, TO ANY, UH, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD U S A, UM, LITTLE BIT OF COPPER AND THE ROOF, A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, UH, INTERESTING DETAILING TO MAKE IT MORE APPEALABLE.
THAT'S A, IT'S A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, UM, VERY INTERESTING.
AND, AND OF COURSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LOT NOW, UM, IT'S, IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN ABANDONED LOT SOMEWHERE IN THE BRONX.
UH, THIS, THIS HOUSE WOULD, I THINK WOULD, WOULD BRING MORE INTEREST TO THE, TO THE AREA AND, AND BRING VALUE TO EVERYBODY AND MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
WE, WE DEFINITELY WILL BE PLANTING, UH, UH, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A SCHEDULE YET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CUTTING ANY TREES, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TECHNICALLY SU SUBSTITUTE ANYTHING.
BUT OF COURSE WE WILL BE PLANTING, UM, UM, UH, A SCHEDULE THAT WE WAS APPROVED BY THE C D C.
AND IT'S, UM, I THINK A TOTAL OF, UM, NOT FOUR 10, IT'S ABOUT 15 AND SHRUBS QUITE A BIT.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE, IN THE DRAWING HOW THEY'RE PLANTED SURROUNDING, UH, THE PERIMETER OF THE HOUSE.
THE, UM, UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AS I SAID EARLIER IS, IS THE NATURE OF THE SIZE.
AND, AND I HAVE TO ADD THAT THE, IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU STUDY THE DEED OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, EVEN THE, THE SMALLER LOT, THE, THE NON TRIANGULAR ONE, UM, WHICH IS ONLY ADDS UP TO 49 OR 5,200, SO MANY SQUARE FEET IS SUPPOSED TO BY, BY, BY RIGHT TO BE A BUILDABLE LOT.
UM, I QUESTIONED EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT.
WE EVEN WENT TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND, AND HE, AND HE AGREES THE WORDING ON THE DEEDED ALLOWS, UH, THE BUYER WHO BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, BY THE WAY, FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THIS WAS, UH, THE PREVIOUS OWNER WAS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, AND THE DEEDED WAS WRITTEN TO GIVE PERMISSION AND A RIGHT MR. ASCO, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT THIS, THIS IS WATER OVER THE DAM AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN DECIDED.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST FOCUS ON, ON THE PROJECT? MY OKAY.
UM, I'M TRYING TO BE QUICK AND, UM, IN, IN ESSENCE, THE, THE, THE, THE MOST OF THE, UH, THE EXCAVATION WILL BE DONE IN THE FLAT AREA.
UH, AND LIKE I SAID, ALL THE, ALL THE EROSION CONTROL MEASURES WILL BE IN PLACE.
UM, AND IT WILL NOT BE A LARGE HOME.
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WILL BE, UH, A VERY QUICK, UH, SIX MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION.ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER FOR QUESTIONS? OKAY, I GOT TOM AND THEN MICHAEL, UH, YEAH, MR. ESCALADES, I JUST, I FEEL YOU ACTUALLY DID YOURSELF A DISSERVICE IN COMPARING YOUR PROPERTY TO THE OTHER UNDERSIZED PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.
UH, BASED ON THE SHEET THAT YOU SENT OVER THAT WE GOT IN OUR PACKETS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE UNDERSIZED LOTS ARE ACTUALLY UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
OH, AND YOUR LOT AT 6,100, THERE'S ONLY THREE OF THOSE UNDERSIZED LOTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY LARGER THAN YOURS.
SO YOURS IS ON THE VERY LARGE END OF ALL THE UNDERSIZED LIVES.
SO JUST
AND THEN MR. SIMON, I'VE GOT A QUESTION THEN A COMMENT.
UM, UM, HOW, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS THIS HOUSE GONNA BE? 2000.
AND MY COMMENT IS THIS, WE'LL GET THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE GARAGE, BY THE WAY.
THAT INCLUDES THE GARAGE FOOTPRINT, SO NO, NO, NO, THAT'S FINE.
MY, MY COMMENT IS THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD, RIGHT? RIGHT.
UM, THAT WAS MORE TO YOU THAN TO, BUT, BUT, UM, HERE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE UNDERSIZED LOTS THAT YOU SHOWED, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THEM, BUT THEY REALLY, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FORT HILL ROAD, THERE'S ONLY ONE OR TWO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON CLARENDON, UM, THERE AREN'T THAT MANY.
I THINK THERE'S ONLY TWO UNDERSIZED LOTS.
THERE'S SIX ON MY, HMM, ON, ON THE SIDE.
UH, UM, IF, IF YOU LOOKED AT MY SCREEN HERE, LOOK, THE OVERALL MAP YOU CAN SEE RIGHT? RIGHT HERE YOU HAVE, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
AND ONE IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
WELL, NO, BUT, BUT, BUT LOOK IN, IN THE AREA WHERE YOU WANNA BUILD A HOUSE, THERE'S ONLY ONE AND THE OTHER TWO ARE DISTANCE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTTA CHARACTER, BUT I'M ON YOUR SIDE THOUGH, IF YOU LET ME FINISH.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTTA CHARACTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU WANNA BUILD.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, TWO, TWO COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE, YOU KNOW, UM, IMPRESSED ME.
ONE IS THAT THE PLACE LOOKS LIKE AN ABANDONED LOT FROM THE BRONX.
ANYTHING WOULD BE BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.
AND CERTAINLY A NICE HOUSE WOULD BE A VAST IMPROVEMENT.
THE SECOND THING IS, YEAH, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO WATER CONTAINMENT ON THAT.
THE WATER JUST RUNS RIGHT DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, SLOPING LOT.
SO I WOULD COME OUT IN FAVOR OF A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE Z B A, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THOSE CONSIDERATIONS PUT TOGETHER.
UM, MR. SIMON, I, I HAVE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND ONE COMMENT.
MY QUESTION IS ON MS. ES ESCAL AND THE PREVIOUS, UH, UM, APPLICANT INDICATED THAT, THAT THEY SHOWED DATA THAT THE AMOUNT OF WATER COMING OFF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE LESS AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION.
NOW, WHEN THAT IS GIVEN TO OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THEY LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT IT, UH, MEETS THE CODE, OR DO THEY ACTUALLY VERIFY THAT THE WATER WILL BE LESS THAN WHAT'S COMING OFF? NOW? I KNOW THEY HAVE TO VERIFY THAT IT MEETS CODE.
I WONDER IF AARON COULD JUSTIF YES, JANET.
SO WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THAT IS LOOKED LIKE AT, ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
SO WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT, THE PLANNING BOARD AT THE WORK SESSION ASKED THE APPLICANT IF IT COULD DESIGN FOR SOMETHING GREATER THAN THE 25 YEAR STORM EVENT AS REQUIRED UNDER THE CODE.
COULD HE ALSO CONSIDER THE, UH, PERVIOUS MATERIAL FOR THE DRIVEWAY? SO MR. ESCALADES PUT TOGETHER THESE DETAILED CALCULATIONS WHICH SUPPORT HIS PREMISE AND POSITION THAT IT WOULD BE DESIGNED FOR SOMETHING GREATER THAN THE 25 YEAR STORM.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN REVIEW.
SO I DID FORWARD IT TO THE TOWN ENGINEER TO CONFIRM THAT IT'S ACTUALLY OVER-DESIGNED.
AND I SPOKE WITH MR. MIAN TODAY AND HE SAID HE COULD GET BACK TO ME PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S OVER-DESIGNED.
SO I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO, IS EVERY PROJECT LOOKED AT IN THIS FASHION? BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS ONE IS, IT SHOULD BE, I, I THINK IN THE FUTURE TO MR. SIMON'S POINT, IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE, UH, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE BEHIND THE TIMES A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THESE, YOU KNOW,
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STORMS. 25 YEAR STORMS HAPPEN EVERY YEAR NOW.SO WE NEED TO BE OVER DESIGNING THESE THINGS JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE WEATHER THESE DAYS.
SO I HAVING A CALCULATION, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, THE ONE THAT WE SAW THE PAST TIME AND HAVING IT BLESSED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS BEING ACCURATE.
THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE TO SAY IS THAT IT'S ACCURATE, I THINK IS, UH, THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
AND DAVE, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? WELL, I HAVE, I, I HAVE A, I HAVE A, I HAD A QUESTION I'D LIKE, AND A COMMENT, SO NOW GO AHEAD, MAKE MY COMMENT.
UH, REFERENCE WAS MADE OF ABANDONED HOUSE IN, IN THE BRONX.
I JUST WILL REMIND EVERYONE I WAS BORN IN ABROAD
ALRIGHT, SO MY, MY, UH, QUICK COMMENT IS, UH, YEAH, I, WE SHOULD, WE WILL TALK WITH, UH, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ON THIS.
I WILL SAY THOUGH, THAT REALLY ANYTHING, THEY ARE CHECKING THE STORM.
WE'RE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO CHECK STORMWATER ON, UH, ON EVERYTHING.
WE CAN'T, UH, ALLOW PROJECTS TO GO THAT, UH, CAUSE STORMWATER PROBLEMS. AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS CHECKED.
THE, THE QUESTION, DAVE, ISN'T WHETHER IT'S CHECKED, IT'S ALWAYS CHECKED, IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE LOOKING AT 50 YEAR OR 25.
I THINK THAT'S CODE, JUST A CODE OR ABOVE.
AND WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN OUR REQUEST, WE CAN SPECIFICALLY REQUEST, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT 50 YEAR, AND I, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT UNTIL WE, SOMEBODY REDEFINES WHAT A 25 YEAR STORM IS.
AND IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT BE DONE.
MR. SCHMIDT, AND THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE A BIG PROJECT.
I'LL JUST QUICKLY REPORT THAT I KNOW COMMISSIONER DUANE, THE TOWNS BUREAU OF ENGINEERING AND OTHERS ARE WORKING ON REVISIONS TO THE STORMWATER CODE TO ACTUALLY CODIFY REQUIREMENTS THAT INVOLVE SOMETHING GREATER THAN A 25 YEAR STORM EVENT.
SO WE HAVE TO, THOSE ACTIONS BE, UNFORTUNATELY FOR US, IT'S A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT I THINK, UH, ACTUALLY SETS THE STANDARD, THE 25 YEAR STANDARD, I THINK.
AND SO WE NEED TO SET OUR OWN STANDARDS OUTSIDE OF THAT.
WHAT IS THE, UH, TERM OF ART OR, OR THE TECHNICAL DEFINITION OF A 25 YEAR STORM BECAUSE OF THAT.
'CAUSE THEY HAVEN'T, THEY HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP YET TO THE WEATHER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON? AND, AND I, I WOULD HOPE MR. GOLDEN WILL, WILL MAKE THAT MOTION FOR US.
MR. GOLDEN, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON YOUR COMMENT.
YEAH, I, I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, UM, NOTING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF CLOSE BY PROPERTIES THAT ARE UNDERSIZED, BUT THE ADVANTAGES OF THIS APPLICATION AND THE, UM, BUILDING ON THE SITE, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD ARGUE FOR A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, NAMELY, RIGHT NOW IT'S AN UNSIGHTLY ABANDONED LOT.
I'D SAY IT LOOKS LIKE A BROOKLYN LOT.
I, I, I, I BACK MY BRONX COMMENT AND I'M GONNA DUB ON BROOKLYN NOW.
ANYBODY HERE FROM BROOKLYN? I HOPE I'M A CELTICS FAN.
YOU CAN DUMP ON BROOKLYN ALL YOU WANT.
AND THE ADVANTAGE AND, AND THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WILL BE A VAST IMPROVEMENT ON THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? WALTER, IF WE MOVE TO STATEN ISLAND VERSUS BROOKLYN, I CAME UP BROOKLYN ALL IN FAVOR OF NOT USING A NEW YORK REFERENCE IN THIS RECOMMENDATION TO THE, YEAH.
HOW ABOUT JERSEY? THE DESCRIPTION? HOW ABOUT JERSEY? HOW ABOUT IT LOOKS, HOW ABOUT IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON ACROSS, UNFORTUNATELY ACROSS THE OCEAN RIGHT NOW? THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT? OKAY.
LET, LET'S NOT PUT A REFERENCE TO ANYTHING RELATING TO NEW YORK.
WELL, SO I HAVE A SECOND IN THAT CASE.
MR. MR. SIMON HAD ALREADY SECONDED IT, BUT YOU COULD HAVE VOTED AGAINST IT OTHERWISE.
POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD WINNING ONE, UH, MR. DE TO THE ZONING BOARD.
UH, I THINK, I THINK NEXT WEEK.
WE CAN'T SCHEDULE UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THEY DO.
SO, I MEAN, JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE ON NEXT WEEK DOESN'T MEAN MEAN THEY'LL MAKE A DECISION NEXT WEEK.
SOMETIMES IT TAKES, THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT I, I WOULD TAKE A, I THINK YOUR MAP, I THINK TO TOM'S POINT, I DON'T THINK YOUR MAP IS RIGHT.
I THINK IT, UNDER THE MAP YOU DID UNDERSTATES,
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YOU GAVE US A LISTING PROPERTIES AND THERE WERE A LOT OF THEM THAT WERE ACTUALLY UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET.I, I'LL READ, I'LL READ, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I MEAN THE MORE, THE MORE INFO.
AND OH, BY THE WAY, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LOT, TWO, TWO LOTS TO THE NORTH OF YOURS, IT MAY BE BIGGER, BUT I THINK THE FRONTAGE IS LESS LOOKING AT YOUR MAP.
THE MORE YOU CAN PRESENT TO THE ZONING BOARD, UH, THE BETTER FOR YOUR CASE, ACTUALLY.
AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'LL TRANSMIT THE SEEKER EGG DECK THAT WAS VOTED UPON BY THE PLANNING BOARD THIS EVENING, AS WELL AS THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
AND WE'LL SEND COPIES OFF TO YOU.
I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST MAKE ONE SUGGESTION.
WHEN YOU GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD WITH YOUR MAP, YOU MAY WANT TO COLOR CODE THE ZONING BOARD PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, RED.
SEVEN TO 75 BLUE, SIX TO 7,000.
THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT, MR. GOLDEN.
OKAY, LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS PP 1736.
SO THIS HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2017, COMING BACK TO US, UH, FOR SEVERAL
CO SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS ON
TONIGHT IS JUST A WORK SESSION.
SO, UM, I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE INTERESTED PARTIES LISTENING IN TONIGHT, AND THEY'RE WELCOME TO LISTEN IN TONIGHT.
I PROMISE YOU THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT SOME POINT ON THIS, UH, PROBABLY SOONER THAN LATER, AT WHICH POINT FEEL FREE, UH, TO COME WITH ANY, ANY INFORMATION.
AND I WANNA SAY SOMETHING HERE.
UM, ACTUALLY, I HAD, I'M GONNA MIMIC A, A, A LETTER I WROTE IN THE, UH, SCARSDALE INQUIRER LAST WEEK.
I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ROLE, HOW IMPORTANT THE ROLE OF THE PUBLIC IS TO US.
IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THIS BOARD TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON PROPERTY.
THE MORE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT COME OUT, THE BETTER WE LIKE IT.
BUT WHEN THEY COME OUT AND COMMENT, WE WANT THEM TO COME OUT WITH HARD FACTS, NOT JUST OPINION, BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON POPULARITY OR OPINION.
THEY'RE BASED ON FACTS AND WEIGHING THOSE AGAINST LAND USE LAW.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE REASONS TO DO THINGS.
GENERALLY, WHAT HAPPENS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME IS MOST PROPERTIES, WE TRY TO MITIGATE ANY IMPACTS BECAUSE LANDOWNERS ON NEW YORK STATE HAVE LOTS OF RIGHTS.
SO, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE FACTS TO, TO TRY TO GET THE MITIGATION NECESSARY, UH, FOR A PROJECT.
SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT, COME OUT WITH SOLID COMMENTS, HELP US.
THIS AREA I HAPPEN TO KNOW VERY WELL.
I DRIVE IT ALMOST EVERY DAY, BUT YOU GUYS LIVE THERE AND IT'S VERY HELPFUL.
IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW THAT WE DON'T KNOW, IT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL FOR US.
OKAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, MR. SCHMIDT, YES.
SO, UH, I WON'T REPEAT ANYTHING YOU SAID, BUT I DID WANT TO INDICATE THAT THE SITE LOCATION IS WITHIN THE R TEN ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, THE APPLICANT SEEKS, AS YOU MENTIONED, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL, PERMIT APPROVALS IN CONNECTION WITH ITS PROPOSAL, INSISTING OF THE SUBDIVISION OF TWO EXISTING TAX LOTS IN ORDER TO CREATE FOUR ZONING COMPLIANT LOTS FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTING FOUR NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT FIRST CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AS PART OF TWO PRE-SUBMISSION CONFERENCES HELD IN JANUARY AND APRIL, 2018, THE APPLICANT HAD PROPOSED VARIOUS LAYOUTS INVOLVING A 10 LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
AS A RESULT OF THIS BOARD'S REVIEW OF THE PROJECT, ALONG WITH INPUT FROM TOWN STAFF, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, BUREAU OF ENGINEERING, FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAFFIC AND SAFETY UNIT, AS WELL AS INPUT FROM ITS TRAFFIC CONSULTANT JOHN CANNING.
FOR THIS PROJECT, THE APPLICANT SUBSTANTIALLY REVISED ITS PLANS TO THE PRESENT CONFIGURATION CONSISTING OF A FOUR LOT SUBDIVISION.
ON JUNE 4TH, 2019, THE CONSERVATION
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ADVISORY COUNCIL ISSUED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION WITH CONDITIONS ON THE APPLICANT'S WETLAND, WATERCOURSE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS.THIS PROJECT WAS LAST BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD ACTUALLY AS PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING BACK ON JUNE 5TH, 2019.
AND, UH, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A LATER WORK SESSION HELD ON JULY 15TH, 2020.
I SHOULD SAY THAT AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IN 2019, ITEMS WERE BROUGHT TO LIGHT THAT THE APPLICANT WAS ASKED TO ADDRESS AND IT NEEDED MORE TIME TO DO SO.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD RIGHTFULLY PUT OFF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A NON-SPECIFIED DATE, WHICH WILL ULTIMATELY GET PICKED UP.
AS CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ MENTIONED, SOMETIME PROBABLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE, NEW NOTICES AND SIGNAGE WILL GO OUT, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORS AND BE SITUATED ON THE PROPERTY, IDENTIFYING THE DATE OF THE FUTURE PUBLIC VISIT POSITION.
WE ALSO HAD A PUBLICLY NOTICED SITE VISIT, UH, DURING THE SOLE PERIOD AS WELL, AS YOU RECALL.
UM, I, I DO SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I DID WANNA LASTLY JUST STATE THAT, UM, SINCE THE PROJECT WAS LAST BEFORE THE BOARD, THE APPLICANT'S BEEN WORKING TO ADDRESS COMMENTS ISSUED BY THE TOWNS BUREAU OF ENGINEERING, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY METRO NORTH RAILROAD AND NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS PREDOMINANTLY RELATED TO DRAINAGE.
WHILE I WILL LET THE APPLICANT UPDATE THE BOARD ON THESE MATTERS IN MORE DETAIL, I QUICKLY NOTE THAT OUR OFFICE HAS RECEIVED BRIEF WRITTEN COMMENTS BY EMAIL FROM THE TOWNS BUREAU OF ENGINEERING INDICATING THAT THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED MEETS THE TOWN CODE REQUIREMENTS WITH RESPECT TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND DRAINAGE.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MR. ZAPPY BEFORE WE GO TO MR. ZAPPY.
UM, I ACTUALLY WONDER IF IT'S, IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UH, YOU DESCRIBED IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD, UH, IF MR. ZAPPY HAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN UP VERSUS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
DO WE HAVE THAT MR. SCHMIDT? I ASKED HIM TO.
IF HE DOES NOT, I AM PREPARED TO SHARE.
MR. ZAPPY, DO YOU HAVE THE ORIGINAL PLAN VERSUS WHERE WE ARE? UH, WE'RE AT NOW.
I IT CAN BE, I MEAN, THERE THERE WERE TWO, THERE WERE SEVERAL PLANS, BUT THERE WAS A, THERE WAS THE 10, THEN THERE WAS A FIVE, RIGHT? AND THEN THERE WAS THE FOUR, DOES I RECALL.
UH, THERE WAS MANY DIFFERENT
I I, IF YOU CAN SHOW WHERE THE 10 10 STARTED, MR. SCHMIDT AND MR. THERE WERE TWO VERSIONS OF THIS, BUT SHOW THIS, THIS IS ONE I WANTED TO SHOW, NOT THE ONE ON THE PIPELINE, MR. ZA ZAPPY.
YOU CAN GO THROUGH THIS JUST TO SHOW THEM JUST VERY BRIEFLY WHAT IT WAS, WHERE WE STARTED, AND THEN WHERE WE ARE.
AND THEN GO INTO THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION AS TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
UM, SO WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION.
WE HAD, UM, DONE A CONVENTIONAL LAYOUT, UM, SHOWING 10, UH, ZONE OF COMPLIANT LOTS.
FIVE WERE ORIGINALLY OFF OF OLD COLONY, FIVE WERE OFF OF PIPELINE DOWN BELOW.
UM, THE ULTIMATE INTENTION WITH THIS PLAN WAS TO APPLY A CD OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UM, THIS PLAN YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS THE, UH, THE PLAN THAT WE HAD PROPOSED AND WORKED THROUGH, UH, WHICH SHOWS 10 BUILDING LOTS, ALL FRONTING WITH ACCESS OFF OLD COLONY ROAD.
UM, ALL OF THESE HOMES, BASICALLY, UH, THEY'RE ALL ACCESSED OFF OF OLD COLONY.
UM, SOME ISSUES WITH THIS PLAN WERE SOME SITE DISTANCE ISSUES AND SOME ROCK OUT CROPPINGS ALONG THE SOUTHERN AREA OF THE SITE, UM, FORCING THOSE HOMES TO BE AND LO THOSE HOMES AND LOTS TO BE ALTERED.
UM, WHICH KIND OF EVOLVED INTO A SMALLER, UH, PLAN.
UM, THERE WERE SOME SITE DISTANCE QUESTIONS THAT KIND OF AROSE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TURN AT THE NORTH END ALL THE WAY DOWN.
SO WE HAD, UM, PREPARED, THIS IS, THIS WAS ANOTHER ITERATION APPLYING THE CONSERVATION, UH, OVERLAY, YOU KNOW, FIVE OFF THE TOP, FIVE OFF THE BOTTOM.
UM, THESE WERE, UH, PART OF THE INITIAL SUBMISSION THAT WE HAD MADE, SORRY, I'M KIND OF GOING THROUGH SOME OF THIS, BUT I WANTED NO PROBLEM.
THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL, UM, CONVENTIONAL LOCK COUNT WHERE WE HAD, UM, ZONING COMPLIANT LOTS.
UM, THIS, UH, THESE LOTS HAD A SERIES OF WALLS IN BETWEEN.
UM, IN THIS PLAN, YOU SEE THERE'S FIVE SPACED OUT HOMES, UM, ALONG THE TOP AND THEN FIVE SPACED OUT HOMES ALONG THE BOTTOM.
UM, THIS LOT IS, UH, WAS ZONING COMPLIANT, BUT THERE WAS OTHER FACTORS SUCH AS STEEP SLOPES, UM, TRAVELERS ALONG AQUEDUCT PIPELINE.
UM, THAT KIND OF STEERED US AWAY FROM THIS PLAN.
DO YOU HAVE THE CURRENT PLAN, MR. ZAPPY, OR DO YOU NEED ME TO SHOW THAT? YEAH,
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SO I CAN GO INTO, UM, THE CURRENT PLAN NOW, LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHARE THE SCREEN.IF NOT, I CAN MAKE IT AVAILABLE.
SO WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT HERE IS OLD COLONY ROAD, WHICH IS THIS GRAY SHADED REGION ALONG THE, THE TOP OF THE PROPERTY.
HERE YOU SEE, UH, AQUEDUCT OR PIPELINE ROAD ALONG THE BOTTOM DOWN BELOW.
UM, UP HERE YOU WILL SEE THE LOCATION MAP OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS, UM, IN TOWN.
THIS, UH, THE BLUE LINE IS THE ZONING BOUNDARY FOR THE R 10 ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, THE BLACK LINE, UH, JUST TO THE RIGHT IS THE, UM, THE TOWN BOUNDARY.
UM, SO WE HAVE TWO EXISTING OVERSIZED TAX PARCELS, TAX LOT 11 AND TAX LOT 12.
THIS BLACK LINE RIGHT HERE IS THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, YOU'LL SEE IT COME DOWN THROUGH THE MIDDLE.
UM, SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS ON TAX LOT 11, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON THIS PROJECT WAS, UM, DELAYED, WAS THE, THIS LITTLE SQUARE UP AT THE TOP IS THE HEAD WALL, UM, WHERE SOME DRAINAGE ENDS UP DUMPING ONTO THE PROPERTY.
THIS DRAINAGE ENDS UP COMING DOWN THROUGH THIS SQUIGGLY LINE AND DISCHARGES RIGHT ONTO PIPELINE DOWN BELOW.
UM, THIS WAS INTENDED TO BE CAUGHT THROUGH THIS EXISTING ROUND CONCRETE PIPE.
IT'S A STORM DRAIN THAT RUNS ALONG PIPELINE.
UM, I'LL, UH, I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AS I GO THROUGH THIS.
UM, SO FROM THAT PLAN, YOU'LL SEE HERE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
WE ARE PROPOSING FOUR ZONING COMPLIANT BUILDING LOTS.
UM, THIS PLAN HAS BEEN MODIFIED SINCE WE'VE RECEIVED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT MEMO TO NOW REFLECT, UH, 30 FOOT MAX DRIVEWAY WIDTH.
UM, IT HAS BEEN SHOWN ON THE PLAN AT 30 FEET AS WELL AS, UM, LABELED.
UM, SO THESE DRIVEWAY ACCESS LOCATIONS WERE VETTED BY, UM, THE TOWN, TOWN, UH, WAS IT SAFETY OFFICER.
UM, THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE TOWN TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, UM, TO HAVE ADEQUATE SIGHT DISTANCE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
UM, THIS IS, UH, THE KIND OF THE PREFERRED ACCESS POINTS.
SO THIS PLAN HERE IS THE, UH, STORM WATER UTILITY PLAN.
UM, EACH ONE OF THESE HOMES IS PROPOSED TO STORE OR CAPTURE, HANDLE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT.
UM, THE TOWN ONLY REQUIRES A 25 YEAR STORM EVENT, SO THE STORM WATER FOR THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND ALL OF THE PROPOSED HOMES HAVE BEEN OVER DESIGNED TO EXCEED THIS A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT.
UM, LOOKING OVER HERE IN BETWEEN LOT THREE AND FOUR, YOU WILL SEE A DRAINAGE PIPE STARTING UP HERE, DRAIN, AND THIS SEGMENT COMING DOWN THROUGH THE PROPERTY WITH THESE LITTLE ARROWS SHOWING THE DIRECTION OF THE FLOW DOWN TO THE DRAIN MANHOLE HERE.
FURTHER DOWN, COMING OVER TO THIS BRAKE LINE, CONTINUING A FEW 245 FEET BEFORE IT REACHES A HEAD WALL AND PIPELINE ROAD.
THIS SECTION OF PIPE IS PROPOSED, UM, 30 INCH PIPE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO POINT RIGHT HERE, WHERE IT NOW BECOMES TWO SIDE BY SIDE 24 INCH PIPE.
THIS HAD TO BE SIZED TO ADEQUATELY HANDLE ALL UPSTREAM FLOWS COMING DOWN AND THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
UM, THIS TOOK A LONG TIME TO THOROUGHLY VET AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WOULD BE NO INCREASE IN RUNOFF, BUT NOT JUST AN INCREASE, A DECREASE.
SO THIS PLAN DOES PROPOSE A DECREASE IN RUNOFF.
ANYTHING THAT USED TO COME DOWN RUNOFF ONTO AQUEDUCT DRIVE IS NOW BEING CAPTURED AND BROUGHT OVER, SAFELY CONVEYED AWAY FROM PIPELINE, UNDERNEATH PIPELINE, AND ULTIMATELY DOWN TO THE BRONX RIVER.
UM, THERE IS A CON, UH, NOT CONSERVATION, A UTILITY AND ACCESS EASEMENT THAT ALLOWS ACCESS TO, UM, ANY FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR MAINTENANCE OF THIS.
UM, CURRENTLY THE AMOUNT OF DRAINAGE IS CAUSING A LOT OF DEBRIS TO CLOG THIS EXISTING 18 INCH PIPE DOWN BELOW.
BY DOING THESE IMPROVEMENTS, THERE WILL NOT, NO WILL, THERE'LL NO LONGER NEED TO BE MAINTENANCE OR MUCH LESS FREQUENT MAINTENANCE OF THIS, UM, THIS SEWER OVER HERE, BASED ON THIS EXISTING SEWER THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY, IT WAS REQUESTED THAT THE SEWER BE SHIFTED OVER, UM, SLIGHTLY.
AND, UH, NEW, A NEW SEWER MAY INSTALLED FOR THIS SECTION HERE, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE SEWER MANHOLES AND SECTION OF PIPE.
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OVER HERE ON THIS PLAN, WE HAVE THE SEDIMENT AND EROSION CONTROL PLAN.UM, THIS PLAN BASICALLY HAS EROSION CONTROL BLANKETS OVER ALL PORTIONS OF STEEP SLOPES.
UM, S SILT FENCE, UH, CONSTRUCTION DELINEATION FOR THE LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE, UM, STABILIZED CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE INLET PROTECTION.
SO THIS PLAN ENSURES NO SEDIMENT AND RUNOFF DOWNSTREAM TOWARDS PIPELINE OR, OR ANYTHING FURTHER SOUTH.
SO WE HAVE THE STEEP SLOPE PLAN HERE.
THE DARKER SHADED REGIONS ARE THE STEEPER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE LIGHTLY SHADED REGIONS ARE THE LESS STEEP PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
SO YOU'LL SEE MOST OF THE HOMES ARE IN THE FLATTER AREA OF THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE REALLY ONLY, UM, TWO, TWO STEEP PORTIONS, WHICH IS THE PORTION DIRECTLY AGAINST OLD COLONY ROAD, AND THEN THE PORTION DIRECTLY AGAINST PIPELINE ROAD.
A LARGE SECTION OF THE INTERIOR AREA OF THE PROPERTY IS RELATIVELY FLAT WORKING OUR WAY DOWN HERE.
UM, SO THIS PLAN WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT THE NEW TREE, UH, PRESERVATION AND REFORESTATION PLAN.
UM, THIS WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT TO, UM, ALSO INCLUDE THE STORMWATER RUNOFF, UM, BASED ON THE I I TREE VALUES AND, UH, FOR RUNOFF AND CARBON SEQUESTRATION.
UM, SO THIS PLAN, ALTHOUGH MAY HAVE BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, UM, FROM THE LAST, UH, TREE PRESERVATION AND REFORESTATION, UM, BUT THIS HAS BEEN DONE TO COMPLY WITH THE NEW, UM, OR NEW-ISH, UH, TREE LAW COMING DOWN HERE WE HAVE SOME SECTION PROFILES THROUGH THE PROPERTY PROFILES OF THE SEWER MAIN, UM, DRAINAGE, UM, SECTIONS OF THE HOUSES.
YOU'LL SEE HERE ALL OF THESE DRIVEWAYS TO THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE ARE RELATIVELY FLAT.
UM, SOME AREAS THERE'S REALLY NOT TOO MUCH, UH, TOO MUCH FILL WHERE TOO HIGH OF A WALL IN THE BACK, BUT IT DOES SHOW THE AREAS OF PROPOSED CUT AND FILL.
UM, AND THEN HERE WE HAVE THE SITE DISTANCE AND SIGHT LINES, UM, WHICH THROUGHOUT THE APPLICATION THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY, UM, TO VEHICLES TRAVELING ALONG OLD COLONY ROAD.
SO THIS IS, UM, WHAT DROVE THIS PLAN HERE TO SHOW THAT, UM, VEHICLE, I GUESS ALL THE, UM, THE SITE DISTANCES COMPLY.
UM, SO THERE, GOING BACK TO THE DRAINAGE, THERE WAS A LONG TIME OR A BIG HOLD UP WITH THE DRAINAGE COMING THROUGH THE PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT THOROUGHLY VETS HOW MUCH WATER'S COMING THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND WHERE IS IT GOING.
UM, THERE IS A REDUCTION OF UP TO A HUNDRED YEAR STORM ON THE PROPERTY AND EVERYTHING TRAVELING THROUGH THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN, UM, REDUCED FOR RUNOFF AND VOLUME.
UM, I GUESS THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD, SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS.
TAKE THE DOWN, DOWN THE, UH, CHART FOR A SECOND, MR. ZAPPER.
'CAUSE I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY, MR. SIMON, THIS DOWN.
UH, YES, MR. AL, I WAS, UH, I WAS, UH, WITH YOU AT THE VERY START OF THIS, UH, APPLICATION.
SO, UH, UM, YOU'D DONE A SUBSTANTIAL JOB IN THE DRAINAGE, WHICH WAS A BIG ISSUE OF BRINGING DOWN THE, TAKING OFF THAT WATER AND BRING IT DOWN TO AEST.
NOW WHAT ARE THE PLANS YOU PRESENTED TO US THIS, UH, THIS EVENING? ARE THERE ANY OTHER DRAINAGE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PLANS? BECAUSE, UH, THE PLANS ITSELF REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT I'VE SEEN THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, TO THE BEST OF, UH, MY KNOWLEDGE.
WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL ISSUES PERTAINING TO DRAINAGE AND ALL OTHER ISSUES WITH THE PROJECT.
MR. ZAPPY, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND, YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN A BLESSING, NOT THAT YOU NECESSARILY NEED ONE, BUT A BLESSING OF METRO NORTH, YET THERE, THEY'RE NMPA YOU, YOU, AND THEY ARE AT AN NMM PASS.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I'M SURE.
UM, METRO NORTH WOULD LOVE FOR US TO, UH, IMPROVE THEIR TRACKS ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM THE CITY OR UP FROM THE CITY ALL THE WAY UP TO CROTON.
UM, BUT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THEM HAPPY.
BUT SOME PEOPLE YOU JUST CAN'T, SO.
AS I UNDERSTAND SPECIFICALLY, THE DIFFERENCE IS YOU'RE, YOU ARE TAKING IT DOWN TO THE FIRST CUL CULVERT, I BELIEVE, RIGHT ON, ON THE PIPELINE ROAD, THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THAT AT YOUR EXPENSE.
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THAT IS GOING, GOING SOUTH.AND THEY WANTED YOU TO GO TO THE NEXT CULVERT BECAUSE THAT ONE LEADS TO A CULVERT UNDERNEATH THE TRACKS, AND THAT'S ANOTHER 250, 300 FEET AWAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THEY HAD ASKED US TO, UH, SAFELY MODEL THE STORMWATER GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN, UM, THROUGH, BASICALLY THROUGH THEIR CULVERT BELOW THE TRACKS.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING TO REPLACE THE EXISTING SECTION OF PIPE ALONG PIPELINE ROAD AT ALL AT OUR EXPENSE.
UM, THAT'S THE ROUTE THE WATER CURRENTLY FLOWS.
THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT HAS A REDUCTION IN THE FLOW.
NOW, AS PART OF THIS, THERE WAS ANALYSIS DONE OF WHERE THE WATER WAS COMING FROM.
COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHERE THAT WATER WAS COMING FROM FOR US? SO THERE'S A LARGE 15 ACRE, UH, WATERSHED CONSISTING OF ALL PROPERTIES ON TOP OF, UH, UH, MIDVALE AND EVERYTHING.
ALL OF THIS WATER COMES DOWN LIKE A FUNNEL.
IT'S CAPTURED AND ENDS UP DUMPING RIGHT ONTO THE PROPERTY.
MORE WATER IS COMING ONTO THE PROPERTY, THEN THE PIPE DOWN BELOW CAN HANDLE.
UM, THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES US TO CONSIDER, UM, MAX IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IN OUR DESIGN.
SO, ALTHOUGH THERE'S ONLY, YOU KNOW, 25% I BELIEVE, OF THIS ENTIRE 15 TO 18 ACRE WATERSHED, UM, 25% IMPERVIOUS, WE ARE BEING SAFELY CONSERVATIVE AND FOLLOWING THE CODE, ASSUMING 35% IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
SO WE'RE ASSUMING MORE WATER WAS GONNA END UP RUNNING OFF QUICKER DOWN THROUGH THERE THAN ACTUALLY WILL, UM,
AND, AND, BUT PART THE WATER ISSUE, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THE WATER ISSUE THAT IS CURRENTLY ON PIPELINE WHEN IT HAPPENS IS BECAUSE OF WATER THAT IS COMING FROM ACROSS OLD COLONY ROAD DOWN THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY, AND THEN THERE IS A, THE PIPING ON THE PIPELINE CURRENTLY IS, IS SMALLER AND BE AND GETTING CLOGGED WITH SEDIMENT.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT'S ALL OFFSITE WATER THAT COMES THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PROVING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT? YES.
AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR ALL THE OFFSITE WATER DOWN THROUGH THE PROPERTY, AND IN ADDITION, THE WATER WILL BE IN A PIPE AS OPPOSED TO IN AN OPEN DITCH.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE A CHANCE TO OVERFLOW AND JUST, YOU KNOW, GO OUT AND CREATE THE SEDIMENT, CREATE THE SEDIMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING CREATED AS WELL.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THOUGH, UH, UH, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DRAINAGE, WHICH IS PARKING.
WHERE ARE VISITORS GOING TO PARK WHEN THEY, THEY COME AND VISIT THOSE HOUSES? UM, THERE'S TWO PARKING SPACES IN THE GARAGE, AND THEN THERE'S TWO PARKING SPACES IN THE DRIVEWAY.
YOU CAN PROBABLY GET THREE CARS IN THERE.
YOU, UM, I, I THINK THE CODE REQUIRES TWO.
WE CAN SAFELY DO FIVE, BUT IT IS, IT'S NOT GONNA BE REALLY MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ANY, ANY OF THE OTHER HOMES OVER THERE.
ANY OTHER QUE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? WALTER, IS YOUR HAND STILL UP FROM BEFORE OR YOU'RE ON MUTE IF YOU'RE, WALTER, YOU'RE ON MUTE.
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T BRING IT DOWN.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT? OKAY.
UM, WHAT I'D RECOMMEND, I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON, ON THIS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
UM, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT WE DO KIND OF A COMBINED WORK SESSION.
ACTUALLY, IT COULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT.
I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD NEED THE WORK SESSION.
UH, AND CAN WE DO THAT ON MAY 4TH? DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE TIME ON MAY 4TH, OR, UH, WHEN WE SPOKE EARLIER, BECAUSE WE WERE THINKING THAT THE BLOOM ENERGY AND THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE APPLICATIONS, WHICH WERE IN AHEAD OF THIS ONE WOULD BE SCHEDULED FOR THAT MEETING WE WERE TARGETING, UH, MAY 18TH.
WE HAVE A COUPLE VERY LARGE PROJECTS THAT, THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOING FORWARD.
BUT SO PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 18TH, MR. BLAND, YOU CAN WRITE THAT DOWN ON YOUR CALENDAR.
FOR, THAT'LL BE THE DAY OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WE, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE METRON NORTH TO COME TO THAT PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR THEIR POINT OF VIEW ON ALL OF THIS.
IF THEY WANNA SPEAK, THEN THEY CAN, IF THEY DON'T, I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, OBVIOUSLY,
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ON THIS.UM, I THINK OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS, UH, MAY WANT TO BE THERE JUST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC ON OLD COLONY ROAD, I KNOW THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SPEED THAT PEOPLE GO ON, ON CALL OLD, ON OLD COLONY ROAD, UH, PARTICULARLY, WELL, THERE USED TO BE A LOT OF KIDS THAT USED TO DRIVE TO EDGE HIGH SCHOOL THERE.
BUT, UM, SO THERE ARE CONCERNS LITERALLY ABOUT PEOPLE COMING UP AND DOWN ON CULINARY ROAD AND FOUR MORE CUTOUTS, AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE AT THE MEETING.
SO IF A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT COULD BE AVAILABLE AT THAT MEETING, THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD THING AS WELL.
I'LL ASK MR. CANNING TO ATTEND.
I MEAN, THIS IS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IS ON A, ON A REASONABLE BASIS.
IT'S ONLY BEEN FIVE YEARS, SO, UM, WE REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REASON WHY IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET THIS MOVING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AS TO WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT.
AND I THINK HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC IS RIGHT NOW THE BEST THING WE CAN DO WITH THIS AND HAVE THE PEOPLE THERE.
UM, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE C A C RECOMMENDATION, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT'S ALREADY ANSWERED IT, BUT I MIGHT AS WELL PUT IT ON THE RECORD AGAIN.
MR. SAPPY, YOU'RE AGREEABLE TO A RESTRICTION THAT THERE'S NO FURTHER OR FUTURE SUBDIVISION OF THESE LOTS TO CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL FUTURE LOTS DOWN THE ROAD? YES.
UM, I AM NOT SURE, UH, WHEN THIS WAS LAST ON FOR PUBLIC HEARING, WHETHER OUR, WE HAD OUR SIGN REQUIREMENT IF, UH, BUT WE DO HAVE A SIGN REQUIREMENT NOW.
SO ONCE WE'VE SELECTED THE DATE, UH, YOU SHOULD WORK WITH AARON AND HE WILL GET, UH, A SIGN OR SIGNAGE FOR THE, THE PROPERTY.
SO, UH, THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF A MEETING.
CAN WE ALSO SEND A NOTICE TO THE GREENRIDGE, UH, CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS WELL, SO THAT THEY KNOW AARON? YEAH.
AND I, I SENT THEM NOTICE OF, UH, THIS EVENING'S MEETING AS WELL.
ANYTHING ELSE, GUYS, BEFORE WE LET MR. ZAPPY GO TONIGHT? SO IT'S MAY 18TH, CORRECT? FOR PUBLIC, CORRECT.
THANK YOU MR. GLYNN, FOR SITTING INTO THE WHOLE MEETING, WAITING FOR THIS AT THE END.
SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THE MEETING AS WELL, UH, MR. MR. BLAND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW AS WELL AND WE CAN LET THE, A APPLICANT KNOW IF THERE ARE THINGS THEY SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE GET 'EM IN IN THE NEXT, YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME NOW 'CAUSE IT'S NOT TILL THE 18TH.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S ABOUT A MONTH AWAY.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU OR THE COMMUNITY, ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO ASK IN ADVANCE, FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
TRY TO GET THEM IN AT LEAST A WEEK THOUGH, BEFORE THE HEARING.
SO TRY TO GET THEM IN BY THE 11TH.
ANY QUESTIONS LIKE THAT? HUGH? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.
I DIDN'T, I I, I, I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS ALLOWED TO SPEAK, SO YOU'RE REALLY NOT, BUT I'LL LET YOU IN DEFERENCE TO YOU, SIR, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK
SO ANYWAY, ANYWAY, GOOD TO SEE YOU, HUGH.
AND, AND, UH, I WILL REACH OUT TO MY, UH, FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE, UH, MEETING ON THE 18TH.
AND, UH, WE WILL BE WELL PREPARED.
ANYWAY, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND, UH, I LOOK, I, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE MEETING ON THE 18TH.
AARON, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST ADD THANK YOU, YOUR MR. BLAND.
AND I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE MINUTES OR THE TRANSCRIPT YES.
FROM THE PRIOR PUBLIC HEARING, JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
AND CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY ADDRESSED.
WHAT I, WHAT I WANNA DO IS, UM, UH, MAKE SURE A LOT OF, UH, UM, PEOPLE CAN SEE THE, UH, THE VIDEO OF WHAT I JUST OBSERVED.
SO I I AM SURE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
IT WILL BE ON BY TOMORROW MORNING.
DID, DID MR. BLAND SUBMIT A NEW VIDEO TODAY? OR WHAT VIDEO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? HE'S TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT'S WORST OF THE MEETING.
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YOU.STOPPED SMILING FACES JOHANN JOHANN'S EATING.
HOW YOU DOING, BARBARA? GOOD EVENING.
AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA ADMIT EVERYONE.
JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYONE AS YOU'RE ENTERING INTO THE ROOM, PLEASE KEEP YOUR MIC MUTED UNTIL CALLED UPON TO SPEAK, TROOPERS AND SCHWARTZ, I CAN GET THE MEETING STARTED AND VERIFY.
WITH THE AUDITORIUM, GEORGE MALONE THAT WE'RE READY TO GO, GEORGE.
AND RECORD AND OBVIOUSLY RECORDING TOO.
THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, PLEASE.
LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK WITH, UH, MR. MALONE HERE.
I JUST GOT THE, THE RECORDING NOTICE, SO YES, THAT WAS ME.
EMILIO'S CHANGED HIS NAME TO HIS APPLICANT'S NAME.
OKAY, WE READY? I'M JUST WAITING ON CONFIRMATION, BUT I THINK WE WILL BE, I THINK WALTER PAID YOU OFF TO DELAY TONIGHT.
USUALLY WHEN WE'RE READY TO GO, WE WILL SEE AN ADDITIONAL SCREEN.
I'VE GOTTEN CONFIRMATION THAT WE'RE READY TO GO.
GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WELCOME TO TONIGHT'S PLANNING BOARD MEETING, APRIL 20TH, 20, UH, 2022.
UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? SURE.
HERE NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBERS RI DESAI AND MONA FRAGER NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
MS. DAVIS WILL BE A FULL VOTING MEMBER.
BOY, YOU'RE GETTING OFF TO A TOUGH START THERE, LESLIE.
TWO WEEKS IN A ROW, PUTTING IT RIGHT INTO THE FIRE.
UM, DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? THE APRIL 6TH DRAFT MINUTES, RIGHT? NO, I DID, I HAD ONE COMMENT.
AARON, WE WENT OVER THAT YESTERDAY ON THE, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE, THE, THE ONE WITH THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.
THAT I, AND THEN HOPEFULLY YOU WENT OVER THE TAPE, BUT I MADE A VERY SPECIFIC COMMENT THAT IF MR. STEINMAN WAS HOPING FOR ANYTHING BUT A N A NEUTRAL OR NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, THAT HE
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SHOULD BRING BACK A PROPOSAL THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY LINE.WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TODAY.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE MY EXACT WORDS, BUT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO THAT.
WE'LL VERIFY THAT THROUGH THE TAPE AND ADD IT IN.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED THEN? SO MOVED.
AARON, IS THERE ANYTHING IN CORRESPONDENCE? UM, LET'S SEE.
JUST THAT ONE MEMO THAT YOU HAD PUT TOGETHER, CHAIRPERSONS TOWARDS.
AND THEN I DID HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM.
DO YOU WANNA DO THE, THAT OTHER ITEM FIRST, PLEASE? SURE.
JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR A MOMENT.
OKAY, I'M GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN VERY QUICKLY.
THIS IS THE ITEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT REGARDING THE YARD SIGN.
SO LET ME GET THE SHARE SCREEN UP.
SO I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING TO BRING.
YEAH, IT'S ABOUT TO, LET'S SEE IF CAN LOCATE THIS.
CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? NO, NOT YET.
SO I WANTED TO BRING TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION A SOMEWHAT UNIQUE REQUEST IN THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT OFTEN BECOMES BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, AT LEAST DURING THE 16 PLUS YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, BUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A REQUEST BY GOTHAM CABINETRY, AND THEY'VE SUBMITTED A YARD SIGN APPLICATION FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 3 0 3 CENTRAL PARK AVENUE SOUTH.
THE SIGN AS PROPOSED, UH, DOES NOT CONTAIN THE REQUIRED MINIMUM OF SIX FEET OF GROUND CLEARANCE AS REQUIRED UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 2 85, 29 0.1 B EIGHT B.
UM, HOWEVER, THE PLANNING BOARD IS AUTHORIZED TO GRANT AN EXCEPTION FROM THIS PROVISION UPON RECOMMENDATION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION, AND THE TOWN ENGINEER, I DO HAVE A COPY OF THAT RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS ISSUED YESTERDAY, SUPPORTING THAT THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, SUPPORTING THE PLANNING BOARD, APPROVING THE EXCEPTION.
THE MEMORANDUM READS THAT AFTER REVIEWING THE PROPOSAL AND CONFERRING WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT'S TRAFFIC AND SAFETY UNIT REGARDING SITE DISTANCE AND TRAFFIC SAFETY, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION AND THE TOWN ENGINEER ALL SUPPORT THE PENDING OF THIS EXCEPTION REQUEST.
UH, I DO WANT TO QUICKLY RECITE THE CODE SECTION JUST SO THAT EVERYONE'S AWARE OF IT, BUT 2 85 DASH 29.1 B EIGHT B THREE STATES THAT YARD SIGNS SHALL NOT EXCEED 12 FEET IN HEIGHT AND THIS ONE DOES NOT.
UM, SO NOT EXCEED 12 FEET IN HEIGHT ABOVE GROUND BY SIX FEET IN WIDTH, INCLUDING THE POSTS.
SIGN PANELS SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM GROUND CLEARANCE OF SIX FEET, WHICH IS WHAT IS NOT BEING MET IN MR. UM, EXCEPTIONS.
EXCEPTIONS PER SIGN MOUNTED AT A LOWER HEIGHT SHALL, UH, BY THE PLANNING BOARD ONLY UPON RECOMMENDATION OF THE BUILDING, INSPECTOR, COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION AND THE TOWN MEETING.
SO WE HAVE THIS BEFORE YOU, WE SEE EVENING, UM, BEFORE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS ISSUED.
AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE COMMISSIONER AS WELL AS THE TOWN ENGINEER AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR JUST WANTED TO, THEY THOUGHT ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT, THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS ARE ON IN THE EVENT THERE'S A QUESTION, BUT, UM, THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT TRAFFIC SAFETY AND, UH, SIGHT LINES, AND THAT'S WHY THEY REVIEWED IT WITH THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY UNIT, WHO INDICATED THAT THERE, UH, WAS NO CONCERN
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ON THEIR END.SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I'M ABLE, BUT, OKAY.
AARON, CAN YOU, UM, A POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR WHY A SIX FOOT CLEARANCE MIGHT BE REQUIRED? UH, SO YES, GOOD QUESTION MR. HAY.
AND ONE REASON IS THAT, UM, OH, JUST SEE THAT MR. SNAGS MUST HAVE BOUNCED OUT.
IN ONE REASON MIGHT BE, IF THIS WAS CLOSE TO THE EXIT OUT TO CENTRAL PARK AVENUE AND A VEHICLE WAS LOOKING TO, UM, EXIT THE SITE MIGHT IMPINGE UPON THEIR ABILITY TO SEE EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH ONCOMING VEHICLES.
AND FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT WANT THAT TO BE THE CASE.
THIS IS SET BACK FROM THAT INTERSECTION WITH THE CURB CUT OUT TO CENTRAL PARK AVENUE.
SO WE DON'T ENVISION ANY ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO SITE DISTANCE, EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH.
JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE THIS IS, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THERE USED TO BE A, UM, PHYSICAL THERAPY PLACE ON TOP OF THIS BUILDING UP A VERY STEEP HILL.
IT'S A SMALL, IT'S NOT REALLY EVEN A SHOPPING CENTER.
THERE'S A, THERE'S AN OFFICE ON TOP.
IT'S A CABINET, UH, UH, CABINET STORE, CUSTOM CABINET STORE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? WALTER? YEAH, I OBJECT TO QUESTION.
YEAH, I, I'M TRYING TO OBJECTION.
I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE WHERE THAT SIX FEET IS MEASURED FROM, BECAUSE ACCORDING TO, IF YOU MEASURE ACCORDING TO THE, THE PERSON STANDING THERE IS 75 INCHES THAT EXCEEDS SIX FEET.
SO WHAT IS THE SIX FEET MEASUREMENT WHERE THAT SIX FEET COMES FROM? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, SO IT'S SIX FEET IN WIDTH, WALTER, IT CAN BE UP TO 12 FEET IN HEIGHT.
SIX FEET WIDTH, WHERE, WHERE YOU MEASURED, SHOW ME WHERE SIX FEET YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S NOT ON THERE.
THE SIX FEET ON A TYPICAL SIGN, THE LAW SAYS IT HAS TO BE SIX FEET CLEARANCE FROM THE GROUND TO THE BEGINNING OF THE SIGN.
THE REASON OH, TO THE BEGINNING.
SO THAT POLE, OKAY, SO THAT POLE THERE IS THE PROBLEM.
AND THE REASON THAT NORMALLY IS THE SIGNS ARE MUCH FURTHER OUT TOWARDS, TOWARDS THE STREET THAN THIS ONE IS.
THIS ONE IS BACK FROM THE STREET.
YEAH, I, OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE SIGN IS AWFULLY CLOSE TO THAT PARKING LOT ON THE LEFT, AND I WOULD THINK, UM, A TRUCK COULD HIT IT IF THE TRUCK ISN'T CAREFUL.
I MEAN, WOULD HAS ANY SENSE TO MOVE THAT SIGN A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE RIGHT, MORE TO THE MIDDLE OF THAT GRASS MEDIAN? SO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, MR. GOLDEN.
AND, AND SOMETHING THAT CAME UP YESTERDAY.
THEY JUST KIND OF QUICKLY WANTED TO, UM, TO DEMONSTRATE APPROXIMATELY WHERE IT WOULD BE CITED ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT WE, WHAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE, WHO'S GONNA OVERSEE THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION, WE CAN RELAY THAT THE, THE SIGN SHALL NOT PROTRUDE INTO THE PARKING, UH, BEYOND THE CURB OR BEYOND THE GRASS AREA ADJACENT TO THE CURB THAT CAN ABSOLUTELY, IT ACTUALLY SHOULD BE SET BACK A FEW FEET FROM THE GRASS AREA.
THE, THERE ARE TWO, THERE ARE TWO ISSUES WITH THAT, MICHAEL, THAT I SEE.
ONE IS LOOK AT THE ROCK WHERE THE ROCK OUTCROPPINGS ARE.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH FURTHER TOWARDS THE STREET YOU CAN DO.
NUMBER ONE AND TWO IN FRONT OF IT IS A MANHOLE COVER.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MANHOLE COVER GOES.
SO I DON'T KNOW, EVEN IF YOU COULD PULL IT FORWARD AND THEN OVER, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS.
LET LET THE APPLICANT FIGURE IT OUT.
I'M SURE THEY DON'T WANT IT STICKING OUT INTO THE PAVEMENT EITHER.
'CAUSE THEN SOMEONE'S GONNA CLIP IT, RIGHT? THAT THAT SHOULD, WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE PUT THAT INTO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, PULL IT AS FAR OFF AWAY FROM THE PARKING LOT AS THEY POSSIBLY PHYSICALLY CAN.
OKAY, SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU'D BE CONSIDERING VOTING ON ISSUING THE EXCEPTION.
SO IT CAN KIND OF BE CONDITIONAL WOULD BE MY THOUGHT THAT RIGHT.
UH, THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD CONSIDER GRANTING THE EXCEPTION WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? SO MOVED.
UH, SECOND LESLIE, UH, TOM SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
O OKAY, BUT DON'T WE HAVE TO NAME THE CONDITIONS? THE, THE ONE CONDITION IS THAT IT DOES NOT OVERHANG THE PAVEMENT.
OH, I WOULD BE A LITTLE, I I I THINK IT SHOULD OFFSET FROM THE CURB AT LEAST TWO OR THREE FEET.
I MEAN WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE, YOU KNOW, TOWN ENGINEER THINKS
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IS A SAFE DISTANCE, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE RIGHT ON THE CURB BECAUSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DRIVE ONTO CURBS.SO LET'S, THERE ACTUALLY IS NO CURB THAT MICHAEL, THERE ACTUALLY ISN'T A CURB THERE.
WELL, PAVEMENT, WHATEVER IT IS.
WHEREVER THE PAVEMENT EVEN MORE YES.
OKAY, SO, SO CAN YOU WRITE IT UP THAT WAY ON PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, THE SECOND ONE IS A LETTER THAT, UM, ARI DIDN'T GET OUT UNTIL MONDAY.
UH, IT WAS A LETTER THAT OF A RECOMMENDATION FOR A CREATION OF A CITIZENS COMMITTEE, UH, TO INVESTIGATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AS WE KNOW FROM, UM, ELMWOOD, UM, WHEN WE DID ELMWOOD, WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A GLITCH ACTUALLY IN OUR CURRENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING LAW.
AND THE FACT THAT EVEN A PUD WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UH, WASN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE A SETASIDE.
IT'S NUMBER ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, NO MATTER HOW LARGE THE DEVELOPMENT ARE.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE KNOW IS THAT THESE SETA ASIDES, AND AARON AND I WERE GOING OVER THIS YESTERDAY, HAVE PROBABLY PRODUCED LESS THAN A HUNDRED UNITS OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS.
SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE LOOK AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAN THAT.
I PLANNING BOARD DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT ON ITS OWN.
THE TOWN BOARD DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT ON ITS OWN, WHICH WHY I, I REC WOULD, I'D LIKE THE PLANNING BOARD UNANIMOUSLY, IF POSSIBLE, TO RECOMMEND THIS COMMITTEE TO THE TOWN BOARD, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WE DID FOR BATTERY STORAGE SUCCESSFULLY AND FOR, UM, FOR, UH, THE ASSISTED LIVING.
ANY, UH, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THE LETTER I WROTE? UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS EXCELLENT.
CAPTURED THE POINTS AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE IT, UH, GO FORWARD.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS IN THE LETTER TO, TO, TO SEND THE LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD? ALL MOVED.
OKAY, JOHANN AND THEN TOM SECONDED.
ALL ALL OPPOSED? NO ABSTENTIONS CARRIES.
UH, JUST ONE OTHER THING BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
I PROMISED YOU A SECOND LETTER, UH, ONE ON GREEN ENERGY ON A SIMILAR FORMATION OF A, A COMMITTEE ON THAT AS WELL, ON RENEWABLE ENERGY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT SURROUND IT.
UM, LESLIE HAS GRACIOUSLY VOLUNTEERED TO HELP TO ACTUALLY DRAFT THE LETTER FOR US.
LESLIE, OF COURSE, THAT'S A PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND, SO THAT CAN BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
AND SO I'LL BE WORKING WITH LESLIE ON THAT AND THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING TO DO THAT, LESLIE.
THAT'LL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US.
ALL RIGHT, NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, OLD BUSINESSES.
UM, FIRST ONE IS CASE PB 2028 HACKLEY SCHOOL AT 2 93 BENEDICT AVENUE.
IT'S A PLANNING BOARD'S DEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
WE'VE HEARD THIS, UH, APPLICATION SEVERAL TIMES AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO FINALIZE A DECISION THIS EVENING.
UH, ANY COMMENTS ON THE DECISION? I JUST WANTED TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD CHAIRPERSON SIMON, UH, I'M SORRY, CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ.
I WAS LOOKING AT WALTER, WHO I APOLOGIZE, UH, THAT ON APRIL 13TH THE TOWN BOARD ADOPTED A RESOLUTION APPROVING WITH CONDITIONS, THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS, UH, THAT WERE RELATED TO THIS PROJECT AND, AND THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD THAT WAS UNDER CASE NUMBER TB 20 DASH 11.
UH, THE PLANNING BOARD LAST REVIEWED THIS STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION ON APRIL 6TH AS PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED SINCE THE PLANNING BOARD CLOSED THE HEARING ON THAT SAME EVENING, APRIL 6TH.
SO WE DID PREPARE THE DRAFT DECISION WITH CONDITIONS, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THERE ARE, WERE THERE ANY SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NO SPECIAL CONDITIONS TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION? ALL THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS WERE CAPTURED BY COMMISSIONER DUCAIN IN THE TOWN BOARD, AMENDED SITE PLAN, APPLICATION, AND DECISION ON THAT.
THANK YOU MR. KING FOR DOING, DOING OUR WORK FOR US.
UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS DECISION? I HAVE A COMMENT, A COMMENT ON THE, ON THIS.
UH, I, I THOUGHT IN OUR DISCUSSION, WE KNOW WE HAVE NO, UH, AUTHORITY TO MANDATE ADDITIONAL SIDEWALKS ALONG THE FRONT AND ADDITIONAL SIDEWALKS WILL ACTUALLY BE IN THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN.
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THE, THE HACKLEY AGREE TO SOME GENERAL LANGUAGE THAT WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND WORK WITH THE TOWN OF, UH, TERRYTOWN TO SEE IF SIDEWALKS COULD BE INSTALLED, SOMETHING VERY GENERAL.BUT WE DID STATE THAT AND THEY AGREED TO, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT AND, UH, POSSIBILITY WITH NO, NO LEGAL COMMITMENT.
BUT THEY WOULD AT LEAST TAKE THAT TO DO THAT.
YES, MS. GARRIS, THAT'S, MS. GARRIS HAS THE RESPONSE FOR THAT.
UM, MR. SIMON, JUST TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENT, THERE IS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD, UH, A SIDEWALK FROM THE, UH, SITE DRIVEWAY, UH, TO MIDLAND AVENUE ALONG BENEDICT AVENUE.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 400 FEET OF NEW SIDEWALK.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY SHOWN ON THE SITE PLANS THAT ARE, UH, THAT ARE, UH, BEING APPROVED.
WAS THAT I MAKE MAY? WAS THE MOTION MADE TO APPROVE? NO, I'M WAITING FOR MOTION WALTER.
THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE A STEEP SLOPE PERMIT FOR THE HACKER SCHOOL PB 20 DASH 28 AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
OKAY, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS PB 2020 NEWMAN AT 13 SOUTHWOOD PLACE.
THIS IS A, UH, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AND ALSO A ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDATION.
I BELIEVE YOU WANNA GO INTO A FURTHER DESCRIPTION FOR US.
AARON, PLEASE? YES, AS CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ INDICATED CASE NUMBER P D 20 DASH 20 NEWMAN LOCATED AT 13 SOUTHWOOD PLACE, P O WHITE PLAINS IN THE R 7.51 FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT FOR PROJECT INVOLVING THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF ONE EXISTING LOT INTO TWO BUILDABLE LOTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING ONE NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.
THE PROJECT REQUIRES THE REMOVAL OF ONE REGULATED TREE REQUIRING A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING POOL.
NO REGULATED STEEP SLOPE DISTURBANCE FOR A WET AND WATERCOURSE DISTURBANCE IS PROPOSED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT.
THE TOWN BUILDING INSPECTOR HAS DETERMINED THAT THE FOLLOWING AREA VARIANCE IS REQUIRED FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT, AND THAT RELATES TO LOT WIDTH.
AND THE R 75 ZONE 75 FEET OF LOT WIDTH IS REQUIRED AND THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED 59 FEET IN WIDTH FOR THE NEWLY PROPOSED LOT.
THE PROJECT WAS LAST DISCUSSED BY THE PLANNING BOARD BRIEFLY DURING ITS MARCH 14TH WORK SESSION WHERE THE PLANNING BOARD ADOPTED A SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
AS MENTIONED, THE PROJECT REQUIRES ONE AREA OF VARIANCE AS PROPOSED WITH RESPECT TO LOT WITH, AND THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS IS AWAITING OR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH CAN BE DISCUSSED FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT.
I'LL NOW TURN THINGS OVER TO THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR FURTHER DETAIL UPDATES MADE SINCE THE BOARD LAST DISCUSSED THIS PROJECT.
AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AMELIA, ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE YOU TO GO OVER IN YOUR PRESENTATION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IS, UM, ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND, AND SOME OF THE WI AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US IN MAKING A RE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD.
THAT'LL BE, UM, SHEA GRAHAM ON BEHALF OF HUDSON ENGINEERING FOR, FOR THIS ONE.
I THINK, UH, MR. PASCAL IS GONNA BE WITH US LATER.
UH, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES.
DIDN'T I, AMIL, GO AHEAD, SHAY
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND UH, BOARD MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS SHERRY GRAHAM FROM HUDSON ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICATION OF BIRTH 13 SOUTHWOOD PLACE.
UH, SINCE OUR ORIGINAL SUBMISSION, WE SUBMITTED THE TREE PERMIT APPLICATION.
UH, UH, WE PROPOSED FIVE TREES TO REPLACE THE 1 32 INCH TREE BEING REMOVED AND WE REVIS DEMOLITION, UH, TO CLARIFY THAT THE PARKING AREA FRONTING JUNIPER HILL ROAD WILL BE REMOVED.
UM, AGAIN, AS, UH, ANGIE, WE WILL BE APPEARING IN FRONT OF, UH, G B A ON APRIL 28TH REGARDING THE LOT WITH VARIANCE FOR THE LOT WITH ON LOT TWO.
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YES, I ALSO HAVE A ZONING MAP.IS IT OKAY IF I, UH, SHARE THIS? YEAH, I'M JUST SHOWING VERY QUICKLY THE LANDSCAPING.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE TREES PUT AROUND FOR SCREENING PURPOSES.
THERE IS ONE TREE THAT HAS TO BE REMOVED IN THE AREA OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY.
AND THEN AS THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY RECALL, THERE'S THIS EXISTING SECONDARY, UH, PARKING AREA OR DRIVEWAY THAT HAS THESE THREE CONCRETE STRIPS THAT MIGHT ACCOMMODATE ANOTHER VEHICLE OR TWO.
UH, THIS IS ALL BEING REMOVED NOW AND THAT WASN'T CLEAR ON THE, ON THE PRIOR PLAN.
UM, AND, AND NOW IT'S SHOWN TO BE REMOVED.
I'LL STOP THE SHARE SCREEN AND ALLOW SHAY TO SHARE.
YES, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE CORRECT.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, 81 OF THE, UH, 156 BLOCKS WITHIN THE R UH, 7.5 DISTRICTS ARE NON-COMPLIANT IN TERMS OF LOT WITH, UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE ACTUAL LOT WITH DIMENSIONS LABELED ON HERE THOUGH.
WE SAW THAT LAST TIME THOUGH, AND, AND IT WAS GONE THROUGH RATHER, UH, IN, IN QUITE A BIT OF DETAIL.
SO THE BOUNDARY, I BELIEVE, IDENTIFIES PROPERTIES WITHIN THE R 75 ZONE AND THE RED SHADING, UM, IDENTIFIES PROPERTIES THAT DON'T MEET THE 75 FEET AND LOT WIDTH.
SO THERE ARE QUITE A FEW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I BELIEVE I REMEMBER MR. SIMON ASKING A FEW FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
UM, I THINK THEY RANGED ROUGHLY IN THE 60 TO 65 FOOT.
AND THIS, THE REQUEST BEFORE THE BOARD, OR ULTIMATELY BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD, IS THAT, UH, THIS PROJECT BE REDUCED DOWN OR THIS LOT BE REDUCED DOWN FROM 75 TO 59
SO IT IS ON THE LOW END OF, OF, OF, OF WHAT'S THERE.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW THAT ARE LESS THAN 75.
UM, HOWEVER, WHEN YOU GET INTO THE FIFTIES, THERE MAY BE A HANDFUL.
MOST OF THEM ARE IN THE SIXTIES.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, UH, MR. GRAHAM, BEFORE I ASK THE BOARD? UM, NO, THAT WAS ALL.
ANY, UH, DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD? UM, GO AHEAD WALTER.
UH, UH, I KNOW IT'S A, IT IS A TRICKY LOT.
YOU'RE NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE WIDTH AS IT IS NOW YOU HAVE ONE PROPERTY, THE REMAINING PROPERTY WILL BE, UM, UH, 7,500 AND THE OTHER ONE WILL BE 8,000, I MEAN 9,000.
UH, SO THEY'RE BOTH ZONING AND COMPLIANT.
WALTER, WITH, WITH RESPECT TO AREA.
AREA, THEY'RE BOTH ZONING AND COMPLIANCE.
YEAH, THEY'RE BOTH ZONE COMPLIANT.
MY QUESTION IS, HAVE WE EVER, HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED AT MAKING THOSE, THAT PROPERTY RELATIVELY THE SAME SIZE OR IS IT THE WIDTH, THE DIMENSIONS THAT PROHIBIT THAT DESIGN? I'M JUST CURIOUS, THE SETBACKS, THE SETBACKS PROHIBIT THAT TYPE OF MORE, UH, MORE OR LESS JUST, UH, EQUALLY DIVIDING THE LAND.
UH, THE, IS THE SETBACK REALLY THE, UH, THE ISSUE HERE ON THIS PROPERTY? THE, THE GREATEST, I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A QUESTION OF THE ORIENTATION.
THE HOUSE IS ON THE CORNER OF JUNIPER HILL AND SOUTHWOOD YEAH.
IS SOUTHWOOD AND THE OTHER ONE IS FACING JUNIPER HILL ROAD.
SO IT DOESN'T, IF IF THEY WERE TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF ONE, IT WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR ENOUGH, UM, UH, BACKYARD SPACE.
UH, AARON, COULD YOU JUST PUT UP THE PLAN AGAIN FOR A SECOND TO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I, I FEEL LIKE WE DID ADDRESS THIS IN AN EARLY SESSION.
SO AS I RECALL, IF THEY WERE TO TAKE ANY MORE FROM THE NEWLY CLOSED LOT, THEN THE EXISTING LOT WOULD BECOME NONCONFORMING AND YOU'D HAVE TO NON OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ANY OTHER, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? IT'S A WAY, IT'S THE WAY THAT THE LOT IS CONFIGURED.
MOST OF THE EXTRA LAND IS BEHIND IT ACTUALLY.
SO IT, IT'D BE HARD TO, YOU'D MAKE THE OTHER ONE NON-CONFORMING
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IF YOU MOVED IT OVER, I WOULD THINK.MOST OF THAT LAND BEHIND IT IS A HILL, UM, A STEEP HILL GOING DOWNWARDS AS WELL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM, FROM THE BOARD SO FAR? OKAY.
I'M THINKING THIS IS REALLY A ZONING ISSUE, NOT, NOT A PLANNING ISSUE AND THAT WE SHOULD GIVE THIS A NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATION, BUT I'M HOPING TO DISCUSSION.
I THINK, I THINK, I THINK THE SIGNIFICANT THING TO ME IS THAT IT, IT EVEN LOOKS TO ME LIKE A MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS ZONE ARE NON-COMPLIANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR PROPOSAL TO DIVIDE A LOT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S 59 FEET, CERTAINLY IT SEEMS TO ME CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION AND ATTACH TO OUR RECOMMENDATION THE ZONING MAP WITH THAT RED SHADED AREAS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WIDTHS PENCILED IN.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HAVE THE ACTUAL WIDTHS OF THE NON-CONFORMING LOT SO THE ZONING BOARD CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
DO YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION, MICHAEL? SO MOVED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I THAT MOTION TOM SECONDED IT.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT OF MICHAEL'S MOTION? AYE.
FOR POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD.
I JUST WANNA ASK THE APPLICANT, DO YOU HAVE, UH, SHE, DO YOU HAVE THE, A PLAN THAT SHOWS THE VARIOUS DIMENSIONS OR LOT WIDTHS FOR THOSE LOTS? AND IF SO, CAN YOU EMAIL THAT IN TO ME EITHER THIS EVENING OR TOMORROW? YES, I CAN LOOK FOR THAT AND GIVE THAT TO YOU.
AND THEN WE WILL ATTACH THAT TO THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD AS REQUESTED BY THE FINAL.
UH, BARBARA, ARE YOU READY FOR PUBLIC HEARING? TWO THUMBS UP.
UM, LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, COMMISSION.
UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PLEASE? AS CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ? PRESENT MR. HAY? HERE.
MR. SIMON? PRESENT MR. GOLDEN? HERE.
MS. DAVIS HERE AGAIN, NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBERS COR DESAI AND MONA FREYTAG ARE NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING AND MS. DAVIS WILL BE A FULL VOTING MEMBER.
UH, GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
WE HAVE TWO CASES TO HEAR TONIGHT.
THE FIRST ONE IS PLANNING BOARD CASE 22 0 2 0 2, RIGHT 0 2 0 2 GEKA AT 14 HIGH POINT LANE IN SCARSDALE.
UH, IT'S FOR PLANNING BOARD WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
UM, AARON, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR PRESENTATION? JUST VERY QUICKLY THAT, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLANNING BOARD WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT RELATED TO THE PROJECT INVOLVING THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION OF AN EXISTING ONE, FAMILY DWELLING AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE, FAMILY DWELLING ON THE SAME SITE WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.
THE WETLAND, WATERCOURSE AND WETLAND WATERCOURSE BUFFER AREA ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 25,687 SQUARE FEET AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 18,319 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE WITHIN THE REGULATED BUFFER AREA ONLY.
NO DIRECT DISTURBANCE TO THE WATER, TORTS OR WETLAND AREAS PROPOSED THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 1,153 CUBIC YARDS OF IMPORTED FILL TO A COMPLETE THE PROJECT, WHICH REQUIRES A FILL PERMIT THROUGH THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE REMOVAL OF 16 REGULATED TREES REQUIRING A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD AND HAS PREPARED A LANDSCAPING PLAN PROVIDING FOR THE PLANTING OF 16 TREES AND VARIOUS GROUND COVER AND BUFFER AREA IMPROVEMENTS AS REPLACEMENT.
THE PROJECT WAS REFERRED TO THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, WHICH ISSUED A POSITIVE CONDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION DATED FEBRUARY 13TH, 2022.
THE HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AND ISSUED NO OBJECTION.
THE APPLICANT LAST APPEARED BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD ON MARCH 14TH AS PART OF A WORK SESSION.
THE BOARD AT THAT TIME ASKED THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER DESIGNING
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ITS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO EXCEED THE 25 YEAR REQUIREMENT, UH, AS PROVIDED FOR IN THE CODE.THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
UM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.
I WOULD LIKE TO, TO GIVE A COMPLETE DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DO HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN POTENTIALLY SPEAKING THIS EVENING.
WHO, WHO'S SPEAKING FOR THE APPLICANT? WE HAVE MR. GOCA.
AND DO YOU HAVE YOUR PROFESSIONALS AVAILABLE, MR. GOCA? YES, WE DO.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE BETH EVANS AND SHAY AS WELL WHO CAN TALK ABOUT THE ENGINEERING.
I COULD JUST QUICKLY GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN OF THE CONSTRUCTION NETWORK OR THE NEW HOUSE THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO BUILD.
UM, WE'RE TAKE, WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE DOWN A ONE AND A HALF STORY TUTOR, UH, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY TOTALING CLOSE TO 3000 SQUARE FEET AND REPLACING THE HOUSE COMPLETELY WITH A FULL DEMOLITION WITH A, UH, 6,500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, WHICH WOULD ALSO INCLUDE A THREE CAR GARAGE IN THAT NUMBER.
UH, THE HOUSE WILL BE A TWO STORY COLONIAL.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE INTERESTING FACTORS OF THE HOUSE WOULD BE THAT, UM, WITH THE NEW ORIENTATION OF THE HOUSE INTO THE BUFFER, WE ARE ABLE TO, UM, BUILD A HOUSE THAT IS COMPLETELY SUSTAINABLE BY SOLAR.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE INSTALLING 62 SOLAR PANELS, UH, TOTALING ABOUT 25,000 KILOWATTS, WHICH WILL BE ENOUGH TO HEAT AND COOL THE HOUSE WHILE RUNNING ALL OF THE ELECTRIC.
UM, I THINK THE ENGINEERING PORTION DEFINITELY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE WETLAND, UH, IN TERMS OF THE CALEX AND, UM, CHANGING AROUND OUR WETLANDS OR NO, OUR, UH, CALEX TO NOT ONLY HANDLE 25 YEAR, BUT FROM OUR, MY CONVERSATION WITH SHAY WHO CAN, YOU KNOW, SAY A LOT MORE ABOUT IT, WE'VE CHANGED IT AROUND TO HANDLE A 50 YEAR STORM.
BUT AGAIN, SHAY CAN SAY MORE ABOUT THAT.
AND WE ALSO HAVE BETH EVANS, WHO IS OUR, UM, WETLAND SPECIALIST WHO CAN TALK MORE ABOUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE ABOUT THE, THE WETLANDS.
UH, MR. GOER, GIVEN THAT, UH, THE PUBLIC IS SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, OR MAYBE NOT, THEY MAY HAVE COME TO A WORK SESSION, DO YOU HAVE ANY VISUALS YOU CAN SHOW FOR THE PLANS OR, AND ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE HOUSE SO THAT THEY GET A VISUAL, UH, PRESENTATION AS WELL WOULD, OH, THERE WE GO.
OH, THE ORIGINAL, YOU'LL SEE THE ORIGINAL HOUSE IS ON THE LEFT WHERE YOU ACTUALLY PULL UP ON HIGH POINT LANE, WHICH IS ON THE BOTTOM.
TYPICALLY THE, IF YOU KEEP GOING TO THE RIGHT OR SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY, YOU ACTUALLY HIT A DEAD END.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM THE NORTH END OR OF HIGH POINT LANE.
AND THE FIRST IMAGE THAT YOU SEE WITH THE CURRENT HOUSE IS THE TWO, THE TWO CAR GARAGE.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
THE NEW LAYOUT WILL ACTUALLY HELP OUT WITH THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY, WHERE YOU'LL BE SEEING THE MAIN STORY, TWO STORY COLONIAL OF THE HOUSE, AND THEN THE GARAGE IS SECONDARY.
UM, WE'VE ORIENTATED THE HOUSE IN A WAY WHERE WE ARE CAPTURING AS MUCH SUNLIGHT AS POSSIBLE FACING SOUTH SOUTHEAST, UM, YET NOT COMPLETELY FACING SOUTH, WHICH IS QUITE OPTIMAL, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY, UM, BRING US MUCH FARTHER INTO THE WETLANDS BUFFER AND POSSIBLY INTERFERING WITH THE WATERCOURSE, WHICH IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID NOT WANT TO DO.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS'LL BE A TWO STORY STRUCTURE WITH A CERTAIN DECKS IN, IN THE REAR THREE CAR GARAGE, UH, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN 6,500 SQUARE FOOT, UH, NUMBER.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO JUST DESCRIBE THE, UH, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FOR US THEN? UH, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
COULD YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT BIT, MR. GRAHAM, PLEASE? YES.
UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THAT'S BETTER.
UM, REGARDING THE STORM WATER, WE CAPTURED THE ENTIRE HOUSING AND DRIVEWAY AND SPLIT THE AREAS, UH, HALF A PORTION OF THE AREA TO ACTUALLY FLOW INTO, UH, THIS RAIN GARDEN, WHICH HANDLES THE WATER QUALITY VOLUME AND THEN ALLOWS, UH, RAIN EVENTS GREATER THAN THE WATER QUALITY VOLUME TO OVERFLOW INTO THIS, UH, STREAM.
AND, UH, THE REST OF THE AREA IS CONVEYED TO THE REAR OF THE HOUSE WHERE IT'S HANDLED BY COLTON.
UM, UH, HERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE MITIGATION PLAN, UH, WHICH SHOWS, UH, I BELIEVE, UM, THE, THE, THE DIFFERENT, UM, THE SHRUBBERY AND THE VARIANCE FOR THE MITIGATION, UH,
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FOR THE PROJECT.ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO TELL THE PUBLIC BEFORE I TURN IT OVER FOR QUESTIONS? I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ, GO AHEAD.
WITH RESPECT TO THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, UM, AS MR. GRAHAM INDICATED, UH, LET'S SEE.
THE APPLICANT'S STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AND DRAINAGE ANALYSIS IDENTIFIES THAT THE STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM WATERSHED ONE A WILL BE CONVEYED TO A RAIN GARDEN DESIGNED TO CAPTURE AND TREAT THIS RUNOFF PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 80 10 G OF THE TOWN CODE.
WOULD THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS SPECIFIC MITIGATION MEASURE BEING SET FORTH IN A COVENANT TO BE RECORDED IN THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE? THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION SUGGESTED BY THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AND IT IS PURSUANT TO A CODE SECTION, SO I WANTED TO BRING IT UP AT THIS TIME.
MR. OR MR. GRAHAM, COULD YOU RESPOND PLEASE? YES.
CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME? I DON'T THINK I FULLY UNDERSTOOD IT.
SO, UM, AS YOU IN, AS YOU'VE INDICATED IN THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AND DRAINAGE ANALYSIS, UH, THE STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM WATERSHED ONE A WILL BE CONVEYED TO THE RAIN GARDEN, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO CAPTURE AND TREAT THE RUNOFF PURSUANT TO SECTION TWO 80 DASH 10 G OF THE TOWN CODE.
WOULD THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS SPECIFIC MITIGATION MEASURE BEING SET FORTH IN A COVENANT TO BE RECORDED IN THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE? PART OF THE REASON WHY, UH, THIS WAS WRITTEN INTO THAT CODE SECTION IS THAT, UM, A RAIN GARDEN OVER TIME, THE PROP, YOU KNOW, THE RAIN GARDEN IS INTENDED TO FUNCTION AS A PROPORTION OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ON THE PROPERTY OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY MR. IKA ENJOYS MANY YEARS AT THIS PROPERTY OR SELLS IT WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
SOMEONE MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THE RAIN GARDEN IS ACTUALLY A FUNCTIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT COMPONENT OF AN OVERALL SYSTEM ON THE PROPERTY.
AND BY CONDITIONING IT AND HAVING IT IDENTIFIED AS A COVENANT FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, IT WOULD BE MADE MUCH MORE CLEAR TO ANY PROPERTY, ANY BUYER OF THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A FUNCTIONAL STONEWATER SYSTEM AND COMPONENT OF, UH, THIS PROJECT THAT WAS CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING TEAM, GIVEN AARON GIVEN IF ONCE YOU FILE IT, DOES THAT GIVE THE TOWN THE ABILITY TO, UH, ENFORCE, UH, MAINTENANCE OF, OF THAT? SO THE PROVISION GOES ON TO STATE THAT, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT THAT PARTICULAR SYSTEM AND THE TOWN WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO IN POTENTIALLY AND, AND MAINTAIN IT AND CHARGE IT BACK TO THE APPLICANT? IF YOU DO, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING 'CAUSE THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE'VE HAD, UH, CERTAIN THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOLDING PONDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT HAD TO BE MAINTAINED.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE THAT BY BONDING THEM AT TIMES.
OVER A PERIOD OF TIME OF PLANTINGS.
WE'VE CLEARLY DONE THAT WITH PLANTINGS.
THE, WE'VE DONE IT WITH PLANTINGS FOR SURE.
YES, IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE IN THE COVENANT.
SO IT, IT WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, CARRY THROUGH WITH THE DEED AND, UH, BE BINDING TO SUBSEQUENT PROPERTY OWNERS BINDING AND ENFORCEABLE BY THE TOWN.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
I WOULD DEFER TO DAVID ON THAT.
DAVID, ARE YOU, YOU WITH US DAVID? I, I AM.
COULD COULD YOU ANSWER THE, THE, THE QUESTION AGAIN? A, UH, AS TO WHAT, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY OF MA MAKING IT ENFORCEABLE FOR THAT RAIN GARDEN TO BE MAINTAINED? THE CONDITION THAT PUT A CONDITION TO CONDITION IT AND YEAH, AND, AND FILE IT WITH THE CLERK.
WITH COUNTY YOU MEAN I I, I DON'T KNOW THAT FILING IS GONNA MAKE ANY, IF IT'S CONDITION I THERE, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO, TO DOING THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU'VE GOT A RECORD THAT'S ALSO IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, BUT IT, THE CONDITION ITSELF, UH, THAT THEY DO IT AS A PLANNING BOARD CONDITION THAT MAY, THAT CAN BE ENFORCED.
SO, UH, MR. GOCA ARE, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, WELL ONE IS, IS IT HAS A CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL AND TWO, IT BEING FILED, FILED WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, I'M NEW TO THIS WHOLE FILING.
I WOULD HAVE TO ASK MY ARCHITECT EXACTLY
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BE I, I'M AGAIN, UM, JUST A, A HOMEOWNER.UM, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE RAMIFICATIONS OF ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
UM, THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT I, I I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S ENFORCEABLE OR NOT.
I, I ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER TO IT.
UM, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH MY ARCHITECT.
WELL, HE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT, UH, TO THIS CALL.
HE WANTED TO, BUT HE HAD A, UH, THERE WAS A, HE HAS TO GO.
LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND THIS.
AND MAYBE THIS WILL HELP THE APPLICANT.
UM, PUTTING THIS ASIDE, YOU KNOW, THE DEED AND THE COVENANT, I'M SURE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD'S APPROVAL IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL IS THAT THE APPLICANT MUST MAINTAIN THE RAIN GARDEN DURING THE TIME THE APPLICANT OWNS THE HOUSE.
AND NOT JUST THE APPLICANT, MICHAEL, THE APPLICANT AND SUBSEQUENT OWNERS, THE, THE APPROVAL GOES WITH THE PROPERTY, NOT, NOT JUST THE APPLICANT, MICHAEL.
SO, SO, SO THE, THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE RAIN GARDEN BE MAINTAINED WOULD APPLY TO THE APPLICANT AND SUBSEQUENT OWNERS.
I'M NOT SURE THEN THAT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR A COVENANT IN THE DEEDED BECAUSE MAYBE IT'S JUST BOOTS AND SUSPENDERS OR BEL.
UM, SOMEBODY TELL ME WHERE I'M GOING WRONG.
I I CAN EXPLAIN JUST TO FLAG, JUST TO FLAG THEM.
I THINK MICHAEL, MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, WHEN THEY'RE DO, WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR TITLE SEARCH, IT MAY NOT COME UP.
SO, TO TO, TO ANSWER THE APPLICANT'S QUESTION, THIS WON'T AFFECT ANYTHING.
IT JUST PUTS A NEW BUYER ON NOTICE THAT THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN THE RAIN GARDEN, UM, JUST AS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO ANYWAY.
BUT YOU HAVE TIME TO GR I WOULD GO, GO CHECK WITH YOUR COUNSEL AND YOUR ARCHITECT.
UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE IT TONIGHT, VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT.
ANYWAY, THIS, WE, YOU'LL HAVE A FEW WEEKS TO DO THAT.
JUST, YOU KNOW, TALK TO YOUR ADVISORS AND THEN GET BACK TO, TO MR. SCHMIDT IN THE, IN NEXT WEEK OR SO.
I'LL, I'LL GET BACK TO HIM BY THAT ANOTHER WEEK.
YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER WANNA MAKE A DECISION ON INFORMATION.
UH, WITH NOT EVEN MISSING, I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION.
SO, UH, BUT IF, I WILL DEFINITELY GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT AND FIGURE IT OUT.
IF IT'S PART OF THE RAINWATER SYSTEM, UM, IT SHOULD BE AN OBLIGATION TO EVERYONE BECAUSE ONE PROBLEM ON ONE PROPERTY TRICKLES TO ALMOST EVERYONE ELSE.
SO, WELL, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT WILL BE, IT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL.
SO IN THE END, I, I MEAN, SO I WOULD SAY AS THE OWNER, I WOULD SAY YES, IT'S FINE TO HAVE THAT CONDITION.
I WILL CHECK WITH MY ARCHITECT AND CHECK, CHECK WITH YOUR ADVISOR.
WE, UM, LESLIE HAD RAISED YOUR HAND.
YEAH, MS. DAVIS HAD A QUESTION.
WELL, IT, IT DID, IT HA IT, YOU GUYS ANSWERED IT AND YOU BROUGHT OUT THE POINT BECAUSE I DO THINK IT DOES NEED TO BE FILED WITH THE TOWN CLERK, UM, FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU STATED THE TITLE SEARCH AND THAT THE FUTURE OWNERS UNDERSTAND WHAT COMES WITH THAT PROPERTY.
I WAS GONNA ALSO ASK, IN TERMS OF YOUR SOLAR, UM, THAT'S AN OUTRIGHT, AN OUTRIGHT PURCHASE? YES, IT IS.
AND THAT'S WITH THE COUNTY CLERK, MS. DAVIS, JUST TO, UH, CLARIFY RECORD COUNTY CLERK.
OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY.
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WANNA SPEAK? YES, WE DO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK.
UH, MR. BODEN, I'D JUST LIKE, I'D JUST LIKE TO GET CLARIFICATION, UH, FROM LESLIE'S COMMENTS.
DOES THAT, MA, DOES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT'S A PURCHASE OR NOT? IN TERMS OF THIS, THE SOLAR, UH, INSTALLATION, IT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO A FUTURE OWNER.
IT, I DON'T THINK THAT THE SOLAR WAS, UH, CONDITION OF US OF OUR APPROVAL, BUT IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT PASSES TO A FUTURE OWNER OR IF THAT, IF THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT THIS HOUSE WILL, UH, SUPPORT ITS OWN ELECTRICITY IN THE FUTURE, I CAN, I CAN, UH, CLAR NOT, I CAN, UH, ADD ON TO WHAT, UH, MS. DAVIS IS SAYING AND, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY SHE ASKED THE QUESTION.
UH, OFTENTIMES THERE ARE LEASES AND THEN IF THE HOUSE IS SOLD DURING THE TIME OF THE LEASE, THE QUESTION BECOMES WHETHER THE NEW OWNER IS GONNA TAKE OVER THE LEASE OR NOT.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE, THE, UH, OWNER HAS PURCHASED, UH, THE SOLAR PANEL, SO IT WOULD PASS ALONG TO A NEW OWNER.
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I THINK THAT WAS A VERY GOOD CLARIFICATION.UM, MR. SCHMIDT, PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC WANNA SPEAK? YES.
SO FIRST WE HAVE MR. BODEN, THEN WE HAVE MR. AND MRS. P*****K, AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS.
THIS APPEARS TO BE A OFF THE GRID, UH, HOUSE, COMPLETELY DISCONNECTED TO THE GRID.
UM, WHAT IS THE, UH, STORAGE SYSTEM FOR THE, UH, ELECTRICITY GATHERED DURING THE DAY AND USED AT NIGHT? ONE QUESTION.
AND THE SECOND ONE, WHAT IS THE BACKUP, UH, SOURCE OF POWER? IF THERE IS A FAILURE IN SOME REASONS FOR SOLAR, FOR A COMPLETELY OFF THE GRID HOUSE.
IT'S A VERY, VERY INTERESTING CONCEPT AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S BEING USED IN GREENBURG.
UH, WHY DON'T WE COLLECT ALL THE QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC AND LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THEM ALL AT THE END.
VERY GOOD QUESTIONS, MR. BOWDEN.
NEXT, MR. AND MRS. P*****K, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
GLENN P*****K, UH, 14 CHERRY LANE.
GO AHEAD WITH YOUR QUESTION OR COMMENT, MR. P*****K.
P*****K, IT'S CERTAINLY, UM, THE WETLANDS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ON, UH, OUR PROPERTY AND CERTAINLY WHAT, UM, IS BEING PROPOSED.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE QUITE CONCERNED BECAUSE, UM, OF OUR, UH, TENURE HERE IN OUR HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD RUNOFFS, UM, FROM HIGH POINT, UM, AT VARIOUS TIMES.
AND OUR CONCERN IS, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW IS ANY TYPE OF RUNOFF ONTO OUR PROPERTY GOING TO BE PREVENTED? YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF PLANS WOULD GUARANTEE THAT THAT WOULD NOT OCCUR TO ON, ON A PROPERTY? OKAY.
WELL, UM, UH, SHE CAN DEFINITELY INTER, UH, INTERJECT UMS, SIR, WE'RE GONNA WAIT TILL, TILL THE ENTIRE PUBLIC, UH, RIGHT.
I'M, I HAVE NOTES MR. GOCA, AND WE'LL GO OVER THE QUESTIONS.
I'M TAKING DOWN ALL THE QUESTIONS.
P*****K, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? UH, YEAH, WE, AGAIN, THE CONCERN ABOUT THE FLOW OF WATER, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT GUARANTEES, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE, UH, THE PLANS WOULD, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, WOULD, UM, OKAY.
PREVENT THAT FROM ENTERING INTO, UH, OUR GROUNDS.
UM, IT WILL BE ANSWERED IN A COUPLE MINUTES, I PROMISE YOU.
UM, NEXT, MR. SCHMIDT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? I DID SEND THE, THE INVITE OUT TO A FEW FOLKS ARE THE ANGLES.
CAN I, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? UH, UH, I'M OUT OF ORDER HERE BECAUSE I'M AN ARCHITECT AND AN ENGINEER AND I JUST HEARD THIS PRESENTATION AND I AM AMAZED AND EXCITED FOR THE APPLICANT AND I, I I, I SIDE WITH MR. BODEN FOR MENTIONING THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT, UH, UH, STEP FORWARD IN THE WAY WE'RE THINKING.
EVEN FOR A LARGE HOME LIKE THIS, THIS IS A COURAGEOUS STEP.
THIS IS A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT HABITABLE SPACE WITH 60 PLUS PANELS.
UH, THIS IS THE STATE OF THE ARTS, AND THIS IS THE WAY THAT IF WE WANNA BE RICH AND, AND, AND SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT, THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT.
I GIVE YOU MY 100% APPROVAL, AND NOT THAT IT COUNTS ANYTHING, BUT, AND IN TERMS OF THE WETLANDS, UH, IT'S, IF YOU WANT TO OFFSET IT IN THE BALANCE OF ENVIRONMENT, WE ARE, WE ARE PRODUCING FREE ENERGY.
UH, I THINK THAT IS AN EXTREMELY VALUABLE OFFSET THAT WE, WE CAN THINK OF.
THAT'S ALL I, I'M GONNA BE QUIET NOW, BUT I, I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS APPLICANT AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, UH, AND I'M JEALOUS THAT I'M NOT INVOLVED.
JUST, UH, FOR THE RECORD, AND I KNOW BARBARA PROBABLY KNOWS YOU ALREADY, BUT SINCE YOUR SCREEN HAS YOU AS MR. G ON THERE, WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY YOU AS MR. ESCALADES.
REMEMBERS THAT WHEN, WHEN HE ASKED TO PAY YOUR BILL.
BILL, MR. THAT'S RIGHT, MRS. OH MY GOD.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE, AARON, DID, UH, IBI ANGLE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? ANGEL? I'M SORRY.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR, OUR EIGHT HIGH POINT LANE, AND WE'VE ALSO HAD, UH, ISSUES WITH THE WATER BACKUP.
UM, THERE, THERE'S A VERY HIGH WATER TABLE.
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WE HAVE A RIVER STREAM UNDER, UNDER OUR WHOLE PROPERTY, AND THEY HAVE A, A STREAM ALSO.AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT RAINS HEAVILY, THE WATER BACKS UP AND WITH SUCH A BIG CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND ALSO I KNOW THEY HAVE PLANS TO PUT A POOL IN THE BACK.
UH, WE'RE JUST, UH, ALSO CONCERNED LIKE THE POLYPS JUST ABOUT THE WATER, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MANY FLOODS IN OUR BASEMENT AND WE'VE PUT A, UH, A WATER SYSTEM UNDERNEATH WITH PIPES AND, AND MO AND, UH, PUMPS JUST TO, TO KEEP THE WATER FROM, FROM OVERFLOWING.
AND THEN, UH, AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER CONCERN WE HAVE IS, UH, THERE'S BEAUTIFUL, VERY MATURE TREES.
AND I WASN'T SURE IF THEY'RE PLANNING ON CUTTING ALL THE TREES DOWN, BECAUSE IT COULD TAKE DECADES FOR THEM TO GROW TO WHERE THEY ARE NOW.
SO WE WERE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY, UM, SOUND HOUSE, WHICH, UH, I THINK IS THE FUTURE.
AND YOUR NAME IS DENNIS, RIGHT? YES.
DENNIS AND MY WIFE LINDA IS HERE.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. SCHMIDT? OKAY.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS STARTING WITH, UH, MR. BODENS.
UM, WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO IN TERMS OF ENERGY STORAGE? UH, CURRENTLY WE WILL NOT BE USING ANYTHING TO STORE THE ENERGY.
CONED IS STILL, UM, IT'S A NEW YORK STATE REQUIREMENT THAT WE STILL, IF CONED IS ON THE ROAD, STILL HAVE TO CONNECT TO CONED.
SO IN A WAY, CONED IS GONNA BE OUR BATTERY STORAGE, WHERE WE WILL, WE WILL PROVIDE ENERGY TO THEM DURING THE DAY, BUT AT NIGHT WE WILL USE ENERGY FROM THEM.
AND IN THE END, I THINK IT'S FEBRUARY THAT THEY DO A RECONCILIATION.
WE USE 20,000 KILOWATTS, AND THE NEXT 5,000 IS SOLD BACK TO THEM AT, UH, WHATEVER NEW YORK STATE PRICING IS.
UM, IN TERMS OF WHEN THE POWER GOES OUT, WE HAVEN'T EXACTLY FIGURED THAT PORTION OUT BECAUSE OF THE EXORBITANT COST OF ELECTRIC BATTERIES RIGHT NOW.
UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, JUST A PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, UM, A 24 HOUR BATTERY FOR AN ENTIRE HOUSE GOES IN A RANGE OF $15,000.
AND THAT'S FOR ONLY 24 HOURS OF POWER.
AND THERE ARE CERTAIN AMAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR, LET'S SAY AN H V A C SYSTEM THAT'S NECESSARY.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL BATTERY THAT WILL PROVIDE THAT ENOUGH POWER WHEN IT'S NEEDED, NOT JUST LIKE A TRICKLE POWER FOR PASSIVE, YOU KNOW, UM, LIGHTING.
UM, PRICES ARE GONNA, UH, ARE ANTICIPATED TO GO DOWN A GREAT, GREAT DEAL, UM, OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS AS BATTERY TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES AND GETS CHEAPER.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW IT WORKS.
UM, BUT THEN AT THE MOMENT, WE ARE GONNA TRY AND PLAN ON LIKE, USING ANY TYPE OF, UH, PROPANE GENERATOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR POWER, IF THE POWER EVER GOES OUT.
UM, AND THAT SHOULD ANSWER ALL OF THE OFF GRID AND STORAGE.
YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A BATTERY STORAGE WALL IN OUR TOWN TOO.
SO IF YOU EVER DO DECIDE TO USE BATTERIES, YOU MAKE SURE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT OUR BATTERY STORAGE.
I DEFINITELY DEPENDS ON THE, THE CAPACITY, THE CAPACITY THAT YOU WOULD NEED IN A HOUSE AT LARGE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WOULD BE, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM IN TERMS OF, IT'S INTERESTING.
UH, MR. HAY ACTUALLY SENT A VERY, VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE THIS MORNING, UH, TO, TO MYSELF AND, AND MR. SIMON ABOUT BAT, ABOUT BATTERY STORAGE.
THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING LITHIUM BATTERIES TO COME DOWN THAT MUCH, AND THEY'RE LOOKING INTO ALTERNATE WAYS, MORE EFFICIENT WAYS OF STORING ENERGY NOW BECAUSE IF THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE, UH, SUPPLY FOR LITHIUM, WHICH COMES ESSENTIALLY FROM ONE COUNTRY, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT SCARY, SO THAT'S SO SOMETHING THEY, THEY'RE VERY WORRIED ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT I AM, IT'S VERY GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE, BUT TRYING TO BECOME SELF-SUSTAINING, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST CONCERN, AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM A SMALL HOUSE TO A HOUSE THAT'S OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET WITH A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION, AND THE AREA WHICH HAS HAD, UH, WATER ISSUES, IS HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MITIGATE THE, UH, FLOW OF WATER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE DRAINAGE PLAN FOR THAT, IF YOU GO OVER THAT WITH THEM AND, AND WHAT THE, UH, RESULTS OF THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPARED TO THE CURRENT AS-BUILT SITUATION? GREAT.
SO IF ANYTHING, WE ARE GOING TO BE IMPROVING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS.
THE ONE BIG ASPECT IS, IS WITH THE CURRENT PLANS AND THE NEW PLANS, WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THE STREAM.
THE STREAMS ARE STILL THERE, THEY'RE STILL GONNA BE FREE FLOWING, JUST LIKE THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
AND SO ANY CURRENT SITUATION WILL NOT CHANGE IN TERMS OF, UM,
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THE, THE QUALITY OF DRAINAGE TODAY WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE AND THE PROPOSED HOUSEHOLD SHOULD NOT CHANGE BECAUSE THE STREAM IS STILL THERE.WE ARE INSTALLING COLEX, ENOUGH COLEX ON THE PROPERTY TO HANDLE A 50 YEAR STORM NOW.
UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, UM, UH, ITEMS THAT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE.
AND WE DECIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, MY CONTRACTOR LOOKED AT THE PRICING.
SO THE PROPERTY WITH THE RUNOFF OF OUR CURRENT, UM, HOUSE, THE, OR THE PROPOSED HOUSE, WE WILL BE INSTALLING ENOUGH CAL TEXT TO HANDLE ALL OF THE WATER RUNOFF FROM OUR PROPERTY FOR 50 YEARS ON TOP OF BOTH OF THE SPOTS OF BOTH OF THE HOUSES.
ALL WATER RUNOFF FROM BOTH OF THE HOUSES ACTUALLY COME TO OUR PROPERTY.
AND, UM, SINCE THOSE STREAMS AREN'T TOUCHED, THEY SHOULD STILL BE CONTINUALLY FLOWING.
UM, UH, 'CAUSE CHERRY LANE, WE'RE DOWNSTREAM, PRETTY MUCH ALL THE WATER THAT COMES TO OUR PROPERTY GOES ACROSS THE STREET, UNDER THE STREET, UNDER THE HOUSE, ACROSS THE STREET OF HIGH POINT LANE INTO THE AQUEDUCT, AND THAT'S THE FINAL RUNOFF.
SO, UM, IF I WAS, IF I WAS TOLD CORRECTLY FROM MY ARCHITECT, ALL THE WATER FROM HIGH POINT, UH, FROM FORT HILL ROAD, TRICKLES DOWN THROUGH FORT HILL, THROUGH ALL THE PROPERTIES, THROUGH THAT ONE MAINSTREAM THAT ENDS ON OUR PROPERTY THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THE ROAD AND, AND INTO THE AQUA, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE WATER, UH, THE WATER, UM, STREAMS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
THANK MR. UH, MR. HAY, YOU HAD A QUESTION AND SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UH, MR. GRAHAM, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE I GO TO MR. HAY? UH, YES.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON TO, UM, WHAT, WHAT, UH, JUSTICE SAID.
UM, IF I CAN QUICKLY SHARE, UH, THE PEN AGAIN.
AND I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, SO, OKAY.
SO, UM, AGAIN, UM, UM, IN THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UM, THE WATER RAN OFF OF THE IMPERVIOUS AREAS AND, AND RUN OFF THE SITE, OF COURSE, UM, BUT IN THE PROPOSED, UH, UH, UM, IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ALTHOUGH WE ARE TAKING AIR, A SMALL PORTION OF THE HOUSE, I BELIEVE HERE, AND, UH, THE FRONT AND ALSO THE DRIVEWAY AND POURING THAT INTO A RAIN GARDEN, WHICH THEN OUTLETS INTO THE STREAM, THAT DOESN'T, UH, DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF WATER GOING INTO THE STREAM.
HOWEVER, THE REST OF THE HOUSE, INCLUDING THE POOL, THE PATIO, AND THE THE COVERED PORCHES ALL GO TO THE CULEX IN THE REAR, WHICH HELPS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF RUNUP THAT'S GOING DIRECTLY INTO THE STREAM.
SO NOT ONLY ARE WE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF LEAVING THE SITE, BUT WE'RE ALSO REDUCING, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH IT'S A VERY, VERY MINOR EFFECT ON THE STREAM, WE ARE REDUCING RUNOFF TO THE STREAM ALSO.
UH, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
YOU'VE GOT A FAIR AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SERVICE IN THAT DRIVEWAY.
IT'S A PRETTY, UH, LARGE PAVE PARKING AREA.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO AT LEAST IMPART, DO, UH, PERVIOUS PAVERS THERE INSTEAD OF, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE? UM, BEING THAT THE AREA IS FLAT? I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO.
APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT AND LETTING US KNOW, UH, WHAT, WHAT YOUR DECISION IS ON THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO REDUCE RUNOFF EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TAKE A LITTLE STRESS OFF THE RAIN GARDEN TOO.
ACTUALLY, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, YES.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE, UH, CLOSE THE, THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING? TOM? I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION REGARDING THE TREES, THE MATURE TREES.
BUT, UH, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON, THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE, THE WATER RUNOFF, AND THAT WAS PARTLY AN ANSWERED BY MR. GRAHAM.
SO THE, THE HOUSE AS IT STANDS NOW FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, HAS NO MITIGATION FOR THE RUNOFF.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST RUNNING OFF WHEREVER IT GOES.
AND IN THE NEW, UM, PROPOSAL, THE FRONT IS BEING DIRECTED TO THE WATER GUARD, THE RAIN GARDEN, AND THEN INTO THE STREAM, AND ALL THE REST OF THE HOUSE IS BEING DIRECTED INTO THE TEX, WHICH FOR THOUGH, UH, THE GRAMS AND THE ANGELS, YOU MAY NOT KNOW, THOSE ARE CHAMBERS, UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS THAT HOLD THE RAINWATER, AND THEN IT, UH, WILL PERCOLATE INTO THE GROUND OVER TIME.
SO COMPARED TO WHAT'S THERE NOW, MUCH MORE OF IT'S GOING TO BE CAPTURED AND DIRECTED.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
WALTER, I SEE YOUR HAND, BUT LESLIE WAS CORRECT.
UH, COULD WE HAVE AN ANSWER ON, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE TREES BEFORE I GO TO MR. SIMON? SO, THE TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN DOWN HAVE BEEN PICKED, UM, DUE TO THE SOLAR, BECAUSE OF THE SOLAR, AND THERE ARE TREES ALL FACING THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY, NOT THE NORTH.
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UH, WHO'S OUR NORTHERN FACING, UH, NEIGHBOR, THOSE TREES WILL BE STAYING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HANGING OVER THEIR HOUSE.AND AGAIN, GOOD ROOT SYSTEMS ARE GREAT FOR A PROPERTY.
UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND DO OUR BEST TO KEEP AS MANY AS POSSIBLE, BUT IN GENERAL, THIS HOUSE WILL HAVE NO OTHER WAY OF POWERING ITSELF OTHER THAN SOLAR.
SO THERE ARE CERTAIN TREES THAT ARE COMPLETELY IMPEDE, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF, UH, SOLAR ACTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ONE TREE THAT BLOCKS THE SOLAR, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL LOSE A GREAT DEAL OF EFFICIENCY.
UM, SO THAT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS WHERE WE WILL BE CUTTING CERTAIN TREES.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE ORIENTATED THE HOUSE AS MUCH AS WE COULD AND MOVED IT AS FAR AS POSSIBLE TO THE NORTH OF THIS, UH, OF THE PROPERTY, RATHER THAN MOVE IT TO THE SOUTH.
UM, THOSE TREES WERE ALSO PICKED, PICKED BY OUR SOLAR COMPANY, UH, UM, AFTER WITH THEIR ENGINEER.
UM, MR. SIMON, I ASSUME YOU HAVE A PLAN TO REPLACE THOSE TREES IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT WAS SUBMITTED ALSO BY AN ARBORIST.
I, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THE PLAN.
IF BEFORE YOU'D LIKE GO AHEAD, SHARE THE PLAN FOR A MINUTE, THEN WE'LL GO TO MR. SIMON THEN MS. DAVIS.
JUST MAKE SURE I HAVE APPROPRIATE PLAN.
ACTUALLY, IN THE SITE PLAN SETS THAT I HAVE, I JUST HAVE THE WETLAND MITIGATION PLANTINGS DOES THE APPLICANT, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE I DO HAVE THEM.
BEAR WITH ME MOMENTARILY WHEN I HAVE THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THESE, THOUGH.
SO THE SHADED AREAS ARE THE WETLAND MITIGATION AREAS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT HAS ITS, UM, WETLAND CONSULTANT ON, BUT THEN, UM, IT DOES SHOW TREES TO BE PLANTED ALONG THE FRONTAGE AND THE SIDE.
AND I THINK THEY'RE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED NOT TO OBVIOUSLY IMPACT THE SOLAR, UH, PANEL SYSTEM IN THE FUTURE.
AND IT ALSO SHOWS THE TREES THAT ARE COMING DOWN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TOO.
AND, AND ALONG, ALONG THIS EDGE YEP.
IN ORDER TO GAIN THAT SUNLIGHT.
TO, UH, TO, UH, I'D LIKE TO, UH, GO BACK TO THE CONCERNS OF THE ANGELS AND THE POLE.
THE POLE LACK, I'M SORRY, MS.
UH, IF YOU CAN GIMME ONE MOMENT.
UH, IF I COULD, UH, SHOW MY SCREEN.
THIS IS THE TABLE OF THE, UH, UH, THE PRE FLOWS AND THE POST FLOWS.
UM, SO IN THE PRE, FOR THE ONE YEAR, UM, WE HAVE 0.7 T F S, 2.31 FOR THE 10 YEAR AND 3.34 FOR THE 25 YEAR.
UM, AFTER THE, UH, PROPOSED CONDITIONS, IT WILL REDUCE DOWN 2.57 FOR THE ONE YEAR, 1.89 FOR THE 10 YEAR, AND 2.73 FOR THE 25 YEAR.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE PEAK RUNOFF.
MS. DAVIS? NO, BASED UPON THIS DATA, BASED UPON THAT DATA AFTER CON AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE, THERE SHOULD BE LESS RUNOFF FROM THE PROPERTY THAN IS CURRENTLY RUNNING OFF.
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THAT SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.OKAY, MS. DAVIS, AND THIS IS GOING BACK TO THE MATURE TREES VERSUS NEW TREES AND EROSION.
UM, IS THERE SOME SORT OF MAKEUP FOR THE AMOUNT OF EROSION? SO THE OLD TREES HOLD THE DIRT, THE NEW TREES ARE, ARE TOO YOUNG.
DO YOU CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE, UH, REMOVING TREES? I CAN SPEAK AARON.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
FROM THE TOWNS, FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE, UH, YES.
SO THERE'S ABSOLUTELY, UH, EROSION CONTROL AND CONNECTION WITH THE TREES AND THEIR ROOT SYSTEMS. THE APPLICANTS REQUIRE APPLICANT'S REQUIRED TO STABILIZE THE SITE BEFORE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, AND THAT CAN BE THROUGH THE PLANTING OF ADDITIONAL TREES, UH, NEW TREES, PLANTING OF GROUND COVER, AND THE WETLAND MITIGATION PLANTINGS THAT THE APPLICANT WENT THROUGH AS PART OF THE WORK SESSION THAT WE HAD LAST MONTH.
UM, I THOUGHT I SAW, UH, MS. EVANS ON EARLIER AND I WAS HOPING SHE COULD, I'M MAYBE THE MAKE THE WALK THE BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THROUGH THAT REPLANTING SCHEME IN THE WETLAND BUFFER WHERE, OR THE WATERCOURSE BUFFER, I SHOULD SAY, WHICH IS APPROXIMATE TO WHERE MOST OF THE TREES ARE COMING DOWN.
BETH EVANS, THE WETLANDS CONSULTANT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS TO PROPOSE A WETLAND MITIGATION, UH, WETLAND BUFFER MITIGATION PLAN.
UH, THAT TAKES THE AREAS WHERE THE TREES ARE COMING DOWN AND ALSO WHERE THE GRADING IS PROPOSED TO, UH, LEAVE THAT AREA AS A, UH, MEADOW AND SHRUB AREA, WHICH WILL SLOW THE ANY RUNOFF, UH, AS WELL AS ABSORB THAT, UH, WATER IN THE, WITH THE PLANTS.
UM, BY LEAVING THIS AREA VEGETATED, IT'S CURRENTLY LAWN AND IT WILL HAVE A, UH, A DIFFERENT FUNCTION ONCE THE THE HOUSE IS BUILT.
THIS WILL BE, UH, MORE OF A NATURALLY VEGETATED AREA GOING DOWN TOWARD THE WATERCOURSE.
UM, SO RATHER THAN TRYING TO REPLACE IT WITH TREES WHICH WOULD INTERFERE WITH THE SOLAR, WE'RE REPLACING IT WITH OTHER VEGETATION, UH, NOT LAWN AND, AND LEAVING THE ACTIVE LAWN AREAS IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY IN THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL WHEN.
UM, AARON STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APRIL 27TH, PROVIDED THE APPLICANT CAN GET BACK TO US.
I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT SAID BY THE END OF THE WEEK WITH RESPECT TO THE CONDITION ON THE COVENANT AND THE OTHER ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED THIS EVENING.
OKAY? SO, SO KEEP THE RECORD OPEN TO APRIL 27TH WITH THAT PROVISO.
CAN I HAVE THAT MOTION PLEASE? SO BOTH, DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND? I HEAR A SECOND FROM TOM, I BELIEVE.
WAS THAT TOM OR JOHAN? I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS TOM.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THERE, BUT I NEED A BOY HAIR.
DOES HAVE MORE HERE THAN ME, SO I'M OKAY HERE WITH THAT.
OKAY, CARRIE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, CASE PB 2023.
IT'S A FOR A PLANNING BOARD, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT.
UH, MR. SCHMIDT, YOU WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION, PLEASE? YES.
UH, AS CHAIRPERSON SCHWAR MENTIONED, ANI PB 20 DASH 23 5 ROBIN HILL ROAD, PO SCARSDALE IN THE R FIVE ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT, THE APPLICANT STEEPS A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPROVAL FOR PROJECT INVOLVING THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION TO AN EXISTING ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THE NEW FRONT PORTICO, NEW PATIO AREAS, AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY 2070 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE TO REGULATED STEEP SLOPES, 15 TO 25%.
THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPOSED DISTURBANCE TO REGULATE TO REGULATED STEEP SLOPES IS RELATED TO THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY AND RELATED FRONT AREA WORK.
ALONG WITH THE ADDITION ON THE SIDE, THE PROJECT REQUIRES APPROXIMATELY 100 CUBIC YARDS OF EXCAVATION, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES, UH, CALTECH STORMWATER UNITS TO HANDLE STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM IT NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
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THE HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AND ISSUED NO OBJECTION.THE APPLICANT LAST APPEARED BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD ON APRIL 6TH AS PART OF A WORK SESSION, THE APPLICANT WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON TREE PROTECTION MEASURES AND ON THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM PROPOSED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
I'LL TURN, TURN THINGS OVER TO MR. LENNER AND MR. CHEN.
COULD YOU FOLKS, AGAIN GIVE A DESCRIPTION FOR THE PUBLIC OF THE PROJECT BEFORE GOING INTO ANY MORE, MORE SPECIFIC DETAIL? ABSOLUTELY.
I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, THIS IS THE POMPANOS RESIDENCE, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1955.
IT'S LOCATED AT FIVE ROBIN HILL ROAD.
UH, THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOUSE WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT A SMALL, UM, UH, ENTRY VESTIBULE AND A COVERED FRONT PORCH, A SMALL ONE.
AND THEN GOING UP AROUND THE DRIVEWAY IS A PROPOSED ADDITION, WHICH WILL HOUSE A TWO CAR GARAGE, A MUDROOM, UM, A MAIN BEDROOM SUITE ABOVE THAT, AND OTHER RENOVATIONS TO THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.
AND, UM, IN DOING THAT, WE, WE ARE PROPOSING TO CAPTURE, UH, THE RUNOFF, UH, FROM THE ADDITION AND OTHER PARTS OF THE PROPERTY INTO CALL TECHS THAT ARE GONNA BE LOCATED HERE AND HERE THAT OUR ENGINEER CHRIS UDI, WILL, UM, REVIEW WITH YOU SOON.
UH, THIS IS THE AREA UP AT THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD THE ADDITION.
THERE'S CURRENTLY A GARAGE OR, UH, ACCESS INTO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
AND THE AREA WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY MOSTLY WHERE THE CURRENT PAVING IS RIGHT NOW HERE.
SO THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE AN ADDITION COMING OFF HERE.
YOU'LL SEE TWO GARAGE DOORS AND AN ENTRANCE INTO THE MUDROOM.
THIS IS THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
THE ADDITION WILL BE OVER ON THIS RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND THERE'S A TREE THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING.
WE ACTUALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE AS IT TURNS OUT, IT IS A LITTLE BIT TOO CLOSE TO WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE TO MOVE THIS SMALL TREE FURTHER TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND KEEP IT OUT OF THE WAY, UH, OF THE CONSTRUCTION PERMANENTLY.
AND WE'LL ALSO DO ALL OF THE REGULATIONS ABOUT PROTECTING THE TREE DURING CONSTRUCTIONS, UH, AS REQUIRED.
SO HERE IS THE, UH, THE OVERALL SITE PLAN.
AGAIN, THE ENGINEER WILL DISCUSS THE, UH, PROPOSED CALTECH STORMWATER SYSTEMS. THE AREAS IN PINK ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD, UH, THAT ARE FULLY ENCLOSED.
THAT'S THE NEW FRONT ENTRYWAY HERE WITH A OPEN COVERED PORCH HERE.
UH, THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE SLIGHTLY MODIFIED SO WE CAN ACCESS INTO THE NEW GARAGE DOORS, WHICH WILL BE HERE.
UH, A NEW ENTRANCE TO A MUDROOM WILL BE HERE, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY PASS THROUGH TO THE BACKYARD, BUT IT'LL GIVE US A WAY TO GET INTO THE HOUSE AND THEN UP DIRECTLY INTO THE KITCHEN WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH OTHER ROOMS TO DO THAT.
UM, THERE'LL BE AN ACCESS TO THE REAR, TO THE REAR YARD, UH, TO A SMALL PATIO SPACE WITH STAIRS THAT WILL GO UP INTO THE BACKYARD.
THIS IS LIKE A GARDEN PATIO WITH A FIVE FOOT WALL AROUND IT.
AND THERE'S THE TREE IN QUESTION.
IT IS CURRENTLY IN ABOUT THIS LOCATION, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S WHERE THE, IT'S WHERE THE STAIRS ARE COMING UP.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE IT BACK OVER HERE.
IT STILL LEAVES A NICE, UH, OPEN BACKYARD FOR MY CLIENT.
AND, UH, YOU SEE THE PROPOSED FENCING AND PROTECTION THAT WE'VE PUT AROUND THAT.
UM, THIS IS THE LOWER LEVEL AS YOU COME UP THE DRIVEWAY HERE ARE THOSE GARAGE DOORS I TALKED ABOUT.
THIS IS THE MUD ROOM THAT COMES IN FROM THE FRONT, AND YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT THROUGHOUT TO THE BACK.
GREAT DROP ZONE FOR KIDS TO COME AND COME AND GO, YOU KNOW, FROM THE HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S IN THE GARAGE OR FROM THE, FROM SCHOOL AND UP THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, THIS LITTLE AREA HERE IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA CONSTRUCT A STAIRWAY TO GET YOU UP INTO THE KITCHEN.
SO, UH, SO THIS IS A HALF A FLIGHT DOWN FROM, FROM THE MAIN LIVING LEVEL.
AND THE BEDROOM LEVEL IS A FULL STORY ABOVE THIS BASEMENT LEVEL, WHICH WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO CONVERT THE EXISTING GARAGE INTO A MUCH NEEDED FAMILY SPACE FOR THE CHILDREN AND, AND THE FAMILY TO, UH, TO HAVE THE UPPER FLOOR IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT ENTRY, UH, THE COVERED PORCH IS HERE.
IT'S A PRETTY SMALL ENTRYWAY, BUT IT GETS 'EM A POWDER ROOM ON THIS LEVEL WHERE THERE CURRENTLY ISN'T ANY A COAT CLOSET, WHICH THEY COULD CERTAINLY USE.
LIKE I SAID, HOUSES BUILT IN 1955 DIDN'T REALLY HAVE CONCERNS FOR THESE ITEMS THAT WE, THAT WE NEED TODAY.
UM, AND THE ADDITION, THE MAIN ADDITION OFF THE BACK IS GONNA BE
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A, A PRIMARY BEDROOM, A SMALL HOME OFFICE SPACE, AND A RENOVATION TO ANOTHER BATHROOM THERE.LIKE AARON MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, WE DID GO TO THE HISTORIC BOARD LAST WEEK ON THE 12TH, I BELIEVE, AND THEY HAD NO ISSUES WITH WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING.
ARCHITECTURALLY, IT'S A REALLY NICE KIND OF, UH, FACELIFT FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TIRED 1950S HOUSE.
SO THERE'S OUR ROOF LINES VERY MUCH IN CONCERT WITH, WITH THE HOUSE THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.
NOT TOO MUCH OF A, A MASSIVE VISUAL IMPACT ON, ON ANYBODY.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, OR I'LL PASS IT ALONG TO CHRIS.
CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN? YES, PLEASE.
SO THIS IS, UH, MY NAME IS CHRIS SUIC.
I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT HOMEBOY PLAINS.
UM, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, AS TIM HAD ALLUDED TO, UH, IS A SERIES OF CULTEC UNITS, UH, A TOTAL OF SIX.
WE HAVE TWO HERE, WHICH PREDOMINANTLY PICK UP THE DRIVEWAY AND THE NEW ADDITION AREA.
UH, AND THEN THE BALANCE OF FOUR ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ARE PICKING UP THE, ORIGINALLY WE'RE PICKING UP THE FRONT PORTIONS OF THE HOUSE.
UH, BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM THE WORK SESSION OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, WE HAVE INCREASED THE, UH, LOCATIONS OF DOWNSPOUTS THAT WE'RE COLLECTING TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE HOUSE.
SO WE'RE PICKING UP THE BACK OF THE HOUSE NOW, THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, EXCUSE ME, AND THE, AND THE, AND THE NEW BACK OF THE HOUSE HERE.
SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY INCLUDING ALL OF THE RUNOFF OFF THE ROOF AND DIRECTING THAT TO THE INFILTRATION SYSTEMS. UM, ALSO AS A RESULT OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE LAST WORK SESSION, WE, UH, I PROVIDED TODAY THE CALCULATIONS THAT SHOW THAT THIS COLLECTIVE SYSTEM WILL MA MITIGATE FOR THE 50 YEAR STORM.
WE, UM, WHEN I DO MY CALCULATIONS, UH, I BASE IT ON THE VOLUMETRIC WATER THAT COMES OFF, NOT JUST A PEAK INSTANTANEOUS RUNOFF, WHICH IS A FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, UH, WHICH IS WHY THIS SYSTEM IS ABLE TO, AS IT WAS DESIGNED, ABLE TO CONVEY, UH, MITIGATE FOR THE 50 YEAR STORM.
UM, THE, THE PLANS HERE AND THE HATCHES ARE THE AREAS THAT WE ARE DISTURBING AS A RESULT OF THE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH ARE IN THE 15 TO 25% SLOPES.
UH, THE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS IS JUST REBUILDING THE DRIVEWAY, THE ACCESS THAT WE NEED TO REBUILD THE GARDEN WALL.
UH, THIS AREA AGAIN, IS REALLY JUST CONSTRUCTION, UH, ACTIVITIES.
IT'LL BE REPLACED ESSENTIALLY IN KIND.
UM, AND, AND FOR THE MOST PART, THE SAME HERE.
ALL THESE AREAS THAT ARE BEING DISTURBED ARE, UH, LAWN AREAS AND WILL BE RESTORED TO LAWN AREAS.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OTHER PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE NEW DRIVEWAY IS RIGHT AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT IS.
AARON, IS THAT OKAY IN AN RF SEVEN FIVE TO DO THAT? WILL THAT A VARIANCE? SO, UH, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE, A, UH, BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE REVIEWED, BUT I, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY, IF THEY'RE GOING NO CLOSER THAN THE EXISTING, UH, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT, IF THE APPLICANT, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN.
MR. LAYNER, WOULD YOU PUT, PUT UP YOUR, UH, PROPOSAL AGAIN, THE, THE SITE PLAN AGAIN, PLEASE? SURE.
I DID HAVE A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH ANTHONY FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BACK BEFORE WE STARTED, UM, DESIGNING THIS.
AND I, I GOT A POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM HIM, WHICH IS WHY I WENT THIS FAR WITH IT.
SO, UM, AND I BELIEVE THEY DID REVIEW THE PLANS BEFORE WE CAME HERE.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S CLOSER TO THE DR TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
THERE'S NO, THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I CALLED HIM.
I WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS A SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR THAT AND I WAS TOLD THAT THIS WAS ADEQUATE.
SO WHAT I'LL DO IS, UM, IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO CLOSE THE HEARING TONIGHT, I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE TOMORROW MORNING AND GET A RESPONSE OUT TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS WITH RESPECT TO THIS QUESTION.
OH, CLEARLY THERE'S A, THERE IS NORMALLY A SETBACK REQUIREMENT ON DRIVEWAYS IN R SEVEN FIVE.
THE ONLY PLACE THERE IS IS R FIVE.
ISN'T THAT CORRECT, DARREN? OH, AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHY, UH, THIS PROPERTY DOES FALL WITHIN THE R FIVE
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ZONING DISTRICT.OKAY, BECAUSE THAT EXPLAINS IT.
SO IT'S IN R FIVE, THAT'S THE REASON WHY.
THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE, UM, TO THE PLAN FOR THE, UH, THE CALEX, THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM FOR A SECOND? I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, NONE OF THIS DRAINAGE SYSTEM EXISTS AT ALL RIGHT NOW FROM THE EXISTING HOUSE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO ALL OF THIS IS A PLUS FOR DRAIN, FOR THE DRAINAGE FROM WHERE THE AS BILL SITUATION? THAT'S CORRECT.
I'M GONNA OPEN UP TO THE, UP TO THE, UH, BOARD.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK MR. TOM, GO AHEAD AND PLEASE TAKE DOWN THE, UH, PLAN.
'CAUSE I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY OTHERWISE.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, THANK MR. LEONARD AND MR.
PARDON MY PRONUNCIATIONS FOR, UH, VERY CLEAR, THOROUGH, AND, UH, EFFICIENT PRESENTATIONS.
OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? NO.
HOW ABOUT THE, UH, PUBLIC? I BELIEVE MR. BOWDEN WISHES TO SPEAK MR. BOWDEN.
UM, WHAT COLOR IS THE ROOF GOING TO BE? THE NEW PREFERRED COLOR FOR ROOF IS WHITE.
I HAVE PAINTED ONE SECTION OF MY ASPHALT SHINGLED ROOF WHITE JUST TO SEE HOW IT LOOKS.
AND I NOTICED THAT MANY INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS HAVE PAINTED THEIR ROOFS WHITE IN VIEW OF GLOBAL WARMING AND CONSERVING, UH, ENERGY FOR COOLING.
UM, HAS THIS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION ON NEW CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS LIKE THIS TO HAVE THE ROOF BE WHITE? THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND I HAVE 'EM ANSWER IT.
I JUST WANNA SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. BODEN? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T BELIEVE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYONE ELSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT IF THERE IS SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT WISHES TO NOW WOULD BE THAT TIME.
MR. LANNER, COULD YOU ANSWER MR. BOWDEN'S QUESTION THEN? CERTAINLY.
UH, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON A WHITE ROOF.
WE'RE PLANNING ON A WHITE HOUSE.
I COULD TELL YOU THAT ALL THE SIDING IS GOING TO BE WHITE.
JUST CURRENTLY A, UH, THAT THE ROOF IS NOT A COMPLETELY BLACK ROOF.
IT'S A, YOU KNOW, MORE IN THE GRAY FAMILY AND IT'S NOT AN OLD ROOF.
SO WE'RE PLANNING ON MATCHING THAT EX THAT SAME EXACT ROOF.
THAT, THAT COLOR SCHEME YOU SEE THERE IS BASICALLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE
I MEAN, TO, TO MR. TO, TO MR. BOWDEN'S POINT, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS GOING FORWARD PEOPLE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS YOU NOW CAN GET, UH, ROOF TILES THAT ARE ACTUALLY SOLAR PANELS AND THEY LOOK JUST LIKE REGULAR ROOF TILES.
I, I DON'T KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THEY ARE.
I ASSUME IT'S STILL VERY EXPENSIVE, BUT CLEARLY IT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR TOWN BEGIN TO PUSH.
UH, YOU KNOW, IN NEW CONSTRUCTION WE'VE BEEN PUSHING GREEN ROOFS.
WE SHOULD BE PUSHING SOLAR ROOFS AS WELL.
I THINK NEW YORK STATE'S GONNA BE HELPING YOU OUT WITH THAT VERY SHORTLY.
YOU THINK? ALWAYS COME AND TRUST ME, THAT'S WHAT ALL, I SAW A PRESENTATION THE OTHER DAY, AS DID MR. HAY WE'RE BOTH IN A PRESENTATION THE OTHER DAY WHERE THEY SAID THEY WILL BE BANNING ALL GAS WITHIN ABOUT 30 YEARS, ALL GAS, WHICH MEANS OLD HOUSES, EVERYTHING AND GONNA HAVE TO BE CONVERTED.
MR. HAY, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I SAY, WELL, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE MANDATING THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION, AT LEAST LEAVE AREAS, UH, DESIGNED TO HAVE SOLAR PANELS PUT ON, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE MANDATED AND BE PART OF THE CODE.
AND THEN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE NEXT CODE CYCLE OR THE ONE AFTER THAT, BUT WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT.
WELL, I'M, I'M HOPING THAT, THAT OUR, OUR TOWN LEAD LEADS THE WAY IN, IN THAT.
UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE RECORD OPEN TILL THE 27TH.
AARON, THE 27TH? THAT'S CORRECT.
CAN I HAVE THAT MOTION PLEASE? DON, I'LL SPEAK AT ONCE.
ALL OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS? NONE.
AARON, I WOULD THINK WE PUT THIS ON FOR WORK SESSION.
DO WE KNOW WHEN THE FOURTH OF THE OR THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY?
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THE FOURTH? WE WOULD HAVE THIS ON THE FOURTH.I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? THAT WAS TOM SECOND.
MR. SIMON SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
BY MR. SNAGS, I BELIEVE NOT A NO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH BARBARA FOR THIS EVENING.
HAVE A GOOD EVENING AND WE'RE GONNA GO BACK STRAIGHT INTO SESSION.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? THANK YOU.
YES, MR. BLAND? UM, UH, UM, I DON'T, DID I MISS THE ZICO? UH, NO, NO.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, IT'S THE LAST THING ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.
WE HAVE ONE MORE CASE AND THEN IT THEN ZKO.
YEAH, WE'VE ONLY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, NOT THE MEETING.
WE'RE NOW GOING BACK INTO WORK.
SO THAT'S STILL GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, JUST JUST SO YOU KNOW MR. BLAND.
SO CAN I WATCH THAT STILL? ABSOLUTELY CAN WATCH IT.
YOU JUST CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT.
BARBARA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BARBARA.
EMILIO, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME.
PB 21 0 8, THE J SUBDIVISION ON CLAREDON ROAD IN SCARSDALE.
IT'S A PRELIMINARY, UH, SUBDIVISION PLANNING TOWARDS STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND WA WATERCOURSE PERMIT.
UM, AND WE NEED TO RECOMMEND TO THE Z B A AND ALSO DO SEEKER THIS EVENING.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'S, UH, IT'S, I I DO HAVE A, SOME OPENING REMARKS IF I MAY CHAIRPERSON? YES SIR, GO AHEAD.
SO AS YOU MENTIONED, CASE NUMBER PV 2108 GZ LOCATED ALONG CLARENDON ROAD, PO OF SCARSDALE WITHIN THE R 7.51 FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT.
AS CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ INDICATED, THE APPLICANT SEEKS PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT APPROVALS RELATED TO A PROJECT INVOLVING A PROPOSAL TO COMBINE TWO EXISTING TAX LOTS TO CREATE ONE LOT FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTING A NEW APPROXIMATELY 2000 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH RELATED IMPROVEMENTS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY 334 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE TO 15 TO 25% SLOPES APPROXIMATELY 380 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE TO 25 TO 35% SLOPES AND APPROXIMATELY 94 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE TO 35% FROM GREATER SLOPES.
THE WATERCOURSE BUFFER AREA ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 3,200 SQUARE FEET AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 350 SQUARE FEET OF DISTURBANCE.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY 60 CUBIC YARDS OF EXCAVATION TO CARRY OUT THE PROJECT.
NO REGULATED TREES ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
UH, THE PROJECT, HOWEVER, AS PROPOSED REQUIRES TWO AREA VARIANCES FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS RELATED TO LOT AREA AND LOT WIDTH.
THIS PROJECT WAS LAST DISCUSSED BY THE PLANNING BOARD ON MARCH 14TH, AT WHICH TIME THE BOARD ASKED THE APPLICANT TO IDENTIFY O IF OTHER UNDERSIZED LOTS EXIST IN THE R 75 ZONE WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION DRAWINGS OF THE PROPOSED HOME IN ORDER TO COMPARE WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THE BOARD ALSO DECLARED ITS INTENT TO SERVE AS LEAD AGENCY FOR PURPOSES OF SEEKER REVIEW.
SINCE THAT TIME, THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS ISSUED NO OBJECTION.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD AT THIS TIME MAY WISH TO VOTE TO DECLARE ITSELF LEAD AGENCY FOR PURPOSES OF SEEKER REVIEW.
I'LL ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION RIGHT NOW.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DECLARE OURSELF LEAVE AGENCY? SO MOVED.
MR. HAY? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
MR. SIMON, THIS IS BECOMING A TAG TEAM.
ALL IN FAVOR? WELL, BECAU WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SUGGEST WHEN WE GETTING READY TO TAKE A VOTE IS FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE THEMSELVES OFF MUTE.
TOM AND I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE ALWAYS READY.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE ALWAYS OFF MUTE, WALTER.
A'S A GOOD SUGGESTION, WALTER, IT REALLY IS.
UM, ALSO WE HAVE TO DECLARE THIS AN UNLISTED ACTION.
MAY I HAVE THAT MOTION PLEASE? SO MOVED.
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I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.MS. DAVIS SECONDS IT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
OKAY, MS. DEDOS, I THINK THE, THE ELE OH, AARON, YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY.
NOW THAT, UH, THE BOARD HAS ESTABLISHED ITSELF AS LEAD AGENCY.
WHAT IS THAT? WHAT ARE YOU PUTTING ON MR. WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT MR. ZAPPA'S SCREEN? THAT'S NOT MINE.
SO, UH, NOW THAT THE BOARD'S ESTABLISHED ITSELF AS LEAD AGENCY AND IDENTIFIED AND CLASSIFIED THE PROJECT AS AN UNLISTED ACTION STAFF HAS PREPARED A DRAFT NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING, AND THAT WAS CIRCULATED IN THE PACKAGES.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO DECLARE THE, A NEGATIVE DECLARATION ON THIS PROJECT UNDER SEEKER? SO MOVE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND MR. HAYES SECONDS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS DONE.
WE'LL MAKE MAKE SURE WE, WE TRANSMIT THAT TO THE ZONING BOARD AS WELL.
SO WE DO HAVE MR. ESCALADES HERE, HILFER AND MR. FREE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY OR WAS ONLY ABOUT THAT? NO, IT WAS JUST ABOUT THE NET DECK.
I WANTED TO SEE IF MR. FREE HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.
SO, UH, MR. ESCALADES IS HERE THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, AND TO GIVE US AN UPDATE WITH RESPECT TO THE REQUEST FROM THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS THE WORK SESSION.
FOLLOWING YOUR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, THE BOARD SHOULD CONSIDER ISSUING A ITS RECOMMENDATION TO THE Z B A ON THE TWO AREA VARIANCES RELATED TO LOT AREA AND LOT WITH THANK YOU.
SO I THINK MR. SCOTA IS THE LAST TIME, I THINK THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CONCERN, THAT THIS WAS AN UNDERSIZED LOT SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERSIZED RELATIVE TO THE ZONE.
SO WE ASKED YOU TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT AN AREA MAP AND SHOW US WHAT THE, WHAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES WERE RELATIVE TO THE ZONE.
AND I THINK YOU'VE LISTED THEM AND CAN WE PUT UP THAT EXHIBIT? YEAH, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.
I'M, I I'M WAITING FOR THE MAP BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT BEHIND ME.
AND IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE IN TERMS OF, UH, EVEN SURPRISED US WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE, UH, THE VARIETY OF COMMONALITY THAT WE HAVE WITH THE UNDERSIZED LOTS.
AND I HAVE THE TAX, UH, SHEETS FOR ALL OF THEM AND THEY AVERAGE FROM, UH, UH, A HIGH 69 TO A LOW OF JUST ABOVE 6,050, WHICH IS LOWER THAN WHAT WE ARE, UH, AS WHEN WE COMBINED THE TWO LOTS.
SO THIS, THIS WAS AN EYE-OPENER TO, TO, TO ME AND THE OWNER WHEN WE, WHEN WE ACTUALLY FOUND THE YELLOW, OF COURSE, IS WHERE WE ARE.
AND THE, THE RED ARE THE, THE UNDERSIZED, THE SUBSTANDARD LOTS WITH RESPECT TO THE 7,500 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
AND LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT 72, THEY'RE NOT 74, THEY'RE 62, 63, 69, 6,000.
UM, AND SO, SO IT IS A, IT IS ENDEMIC, UH, UH, THAT THIS SIZE IS PROBABLY MORE THE NORM, UH, THAN THE EXCEPTION.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, UH, UH, IN NEED FOR THIS LOT, WHICH IS THE STEEPED SLOPE, UH, UH, UH, UH, PER PERMIT AND THE WETLANDS, THE, THE WETLANDS I THINK WAS DISCUSSED LAST TIME.
THERE'S A BROOK THAT RUNS ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, UH, OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT'S NEXT TO US.
SO THE IMPACT TO THAT HOUSE, UM, UH, TO THAT BROOK WOULD REALLY BE NEGLIGIBLE, UH, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE NORMAL, UH, EROSION CONTROL MEASURES AROUND OUR PERIMETER.
UM, AND OF COURSE THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER WIDTH OF HOUSE BEFORE ANY KIND OF EROSION CAN MAKE IT TO THAT BROOK.
SO I, UH, AND, AND ALL OUR, ALL OUR, UH, DRAINAGE AND PATH OF FLOW IS TOWARDS THE FRONT, NOT TOWARDS, TOWARDS THE STREET SIDE RATHER THAN WHERE THE ARROW IS, THE ARROW POINTS TO THE BROOK.
UH, SO ANY, ANY, ANY FLOW WILL RUN TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE.
UM, THE, THE AMOUNT OF EXCAVATION THAT HAS TO BE DONE IN THE 25 TO 35, UH, PERCENT SLOPE IS MINIMUM.
IT'S BETWEEN FOUR AND 500 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE ONLY REASON WHY WE INSISTED UPON THAT IS TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF A BACKYARD IN, UH, FOR, FOR THE HOUSE.
THE HOUSE SITS TOTALLY IN THE, UH, FLAT AREA OF THE PROPERTY, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CALTECH IMPROVEMENTS ARE PLACED IN THE FRONT.
IN ADDITION, THE DRIVEWAY, UH, WILL HAVE SIX INCHES OF, UH, IN THE BACK AND IN THE FRONT.
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TWO IN THE BACK AND, AND FOUR IN THE FRONT.AND THE, THE ADDITION OF, UH, THE, THE, THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE A PERMEABLE TE TECHNOLOGY AND IT GIVES US SIX, SIX INCHES OF, OF BASE OF GRAVEL, 30% OF OF WHICH IS CONSIDERED TO BE STORAGE.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, UM, OF, OF THE, OF THE WATER COMING OUT OF THIS PROPERTY BEFORE AND AFTER, UH, IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THREE TIMES THE VOLUME THAT IS REQUIRED BY CODE.
SO IF WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HUNDRED, UH, OF STORAGE, WE NOW WILL HAVE 300, UH, PROGRAMMED INTO OUR DESIGN.
SO THE CONCEPT IS, UH, TO SHOW EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE EXCEEDED IN THE CAPACITY TO STORE, TO STORE THE, THE, THE STORMWATER.
PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT YOU HEARD WITH THE, WITH THE SOLAR HOUSE THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED.
IT'S THE SAME, THE SAME LOGIC, THE SAME APPROACH, THE SAME ENGINEERING THINKING.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THE HOUSE IS, IS A VERY, UH, REASONABLE 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS OUT OF CHARACTER TO THE AREA.
UH, IN FACT IS PROBABLY THE, THE AVERAGE SIDE, UH, SIZE THAT YOU WOULD FIND, UM, AND ITS ARCHITECTURE IS, IS QUITE, UH, CHARMING.
I THINK IT'S, UH, IT FITS IN, UH, TO ANY, UH, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD U SS A, UM, LITTLE BIT OF COPPER AND THE ROOF, A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, UH, INTERESTING DETAILING TO MAKE IT MORE APPEALABLE.
THAT'S A, IT'S A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, UH, VERY INTERESTING.
AND, AND OF COURSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LOT NOW, UM, IT'S, IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN ABANDONED LOT SOMEWHERE IN THE BRONX.
UH, THIS, THIS HOUSE WOULD, I THINK WOULD, WOULD BRING MORE INTEREST TO THE, TO THE AREA AND, AND BRING VALUE TO EVERYBODY AND MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
WE, WE DEFINITELY WILL BE PLANTING, UH, UH, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A SCHEDULE YET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CUTTING ANY TREES, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TECHNICALLY SU SUBSTITUTE ANYTHING.
BUT OF COURSE WE WILL BE PLANTING, UM, UM, UH, A SCHEDULE THAT WE WAS APPROVED BY THE C D C.
AND IT'S, UM, I THINK A TOTAL OF, UM, FOUR 10.
IT'S ABOUT 15 AND SHRUBS QUITE A BIT.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE, IN THE DRAWING HOW THEY'RE PLANTED SURROUNDING, UH, THE PERIMETER OF THE HOUSE.
THE, UM, UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AS I SAID EARLIER IS, IS THE NATURE OF THE SIZE.
AND, AND I HAVE TO ADD THAT THE, IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU STUDY THE DEEDED OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, EVEN THE, THE SMALLER LOT, THE, THE NON TRIANGULAR ONE, UM, WHICH IS ONLY ADDS UP TO 49 OR 5,200, SO MANY SQUARE FEET IS SUPPOSED TO BY, BY, BY RIGHT TO BE A BUILDABLE LOT.
UM, I QUESTIONED EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT.
WE EVEN WENT TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND, AND HE, AND HE AGREES THE WORDING ON THE DEEDED ALLOWS, UH, THE BUYER WHO BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, BY THE WAY, FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THIS WAS, UH, THE PREVIOUS OWNER WAS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, AND THE DEEDED WAS WRITTEN TO GIVE PERMISSION AND, UH, RIGHT.
MR. ASK, I DON'T MEAN TO IN INTERRUPT YOU, BUT THIS, THIS IS WATER OVER THE DAM AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN DECIDED.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST FOCUS ON THE PROJECT? MY OKAY.
UM, I'M TRYING TO BE QUICK AND, UM, IN, IN ESSENCE THE, THE, THE, THE MOST OF THE, UH, THE EXCAVATION WILL BE DONE IN THE FLAT AREA.
UH, AND LIKE I SAID, ALL THE, ALL THE EROSION CONTROL MEASURES WILL BE IN PLACE.
UM, AND IT WILL NOT BE A LARGE HOME.
IT WILL BE, UH, A VERY QUICK, UH, SIX MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER FOR QUESTIONS? OKAY, I GOT TOM AND THEN MICHAEL, UH, YEAH, MR. ESCALADES, I JUST, I FEEL YOU ACTUALLY DID YOURSELF A DISSERVICE IN COMPARING YOUR PROPERTY TO THE OTHER UNDERSIZED PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.
UH, BASED ON THE SHEET THAT YOU SENT OVER THAT WE GOT IN OUR PACKETS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE UNDERSIZED LOTS ARE ACTUALLY UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
OH, AND YOUR LOT AT 6,100, THERE'S ONLY THREE OF THOSE UNDERSIZED LOTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY LARGER THAN YOURS.
SO YOURS IS ON THE VERY LARGE END OF ALL THE UNDERSIZED LOTS.
SO JUST MY SUMMARY WOULD NOT COMPLETE.
AND THEN MR. SIMON, I'VE GOT A QUESTION THEN A COMMENT.
UM, UM, HOW, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS THIS HOUSE GONNA BE? 2000.
AND MY COMMENT IS THIS, WE'RE GET THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE GARAGE, BY THE WAY, THAT INCLUDES THE GARAGE FOOTPRINT, SO NO, NO, NO, THAT'S FINE.
MY, MY COMMENT IS THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD.
UM, THAT WAS MORE TO YOU THAN TO, BUT, BUT, UM, HERE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE UNDERSIZED LOTS THAT YOU SHOWED, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THEM, BUT THEY REALLY, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FORT HILL ROAD, THERE'S ONLY ONE OR TWO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
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WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING.SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON CLARENDON, UM, THERE AREN'T THAT MANY.
I THINK THERE'S ONLY TWO UNDERSIZED LOTS.
ON, ON THE SIDE, UH, UM, IF, IF YOU LOOKED AT MY SCREEN HERE, LOOK, THE OVERALL MAP YOU CAN SEE RIGHT? RIGHT HERE YOU HAVE, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
AND ONE IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
WELL, NO, BUT, BUT, BUT LOOK IN, IN THE AREA WHERE YOU WANNA BUILD A HOUSE, THERE'S ONLY ONE AND THE OTHER TWO ARE DISTANCE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTTA CHARACTER, BUT I'M ON YOUR SIDE THOUGH, IF YOU LET ME FINISH.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTTA CHARACTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU WANNA BUILD.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, TWO, TWO COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE, YOU KNOW, UM, IMPRESSED ME.
ONE IS THAT THE PLACE LOOKS LIKE AN ABANDONED LOT FROM THE BRONX.
ANYTHING WOULD BE BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.
AND CERTAINLY A NICE HOUSE WOULD BE A VAST IMPROVEMENT.
THE SECOND THING IS, YEAH, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO WATER CONTAINMENT ON THAT.
THE WATER JUST RUNS RIGHT DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, SLOPING LOT.
SO I WOULD COME OUT IN FAVOR OF A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE Z B A, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THOSE CONSIDERATIONS PUT TOGETHER.
UM, MR. SIMON, I I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND ONE COMMENT.
MY QUESTION IS, UH, MS. ES COLITIS AND THE PREVIOUS, UH, UM, APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THEY SHOWED DATA THAT THE AMOUNT OF WATER COMING OFF THEIR PROPERTY WOULD BE LESS AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION.
NOW, WHEN THAT IS GIVEN TO OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THEY LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT IT, UH, MEETS THE CODE, OR DO THEY ACTUALLY VERIFY THAT THE WATER WILL BE LESS THAN WHAT'S COMING OFF? NOW? I KNOW THEY HAVE TO VERIFY THAT IT MEETS CODE.
SO WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THAT HAS LOOKED LIKE AT, ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
SO WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT, THE PLANNING BOARD AT THE WORK SESSION ASKED THE APPLICANT IF IT COULD DESIGN FOR SOMETHING GREATER THAN THE 25 YEAR STORM EVENT AS REQUIRED UNDER THE CODE.
COULD HE ALSO CONSIDER THE, UH, PERVIOUS MATERIAL FOR THE DRIVEWAY? SO MR. ESCALADES PUT TOGETHER THESE DETAILED CALCULATIONS WHICH SUPPORT HIS PREMISE AND POSITION THAT IT WOULD BE DESIGNED FOR SOMETHING GREATER THAN THE 25 YEAR STORM.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN REVIEW.
SO I DID FORWARD IT TO THE TOWN ENGINEER TO CONFIRM THAT IT'S ACTUALLY OVER-DESIGNED.
AND I SPOKE WITH MR. MIAN TODAY AND HE SAID HE COULD GET BACK TO ME PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S OVER-DESIGNED.
SO I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO IS EVERY PROJECT LOOKED AT IN THIS FASHION? BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS ONE IS, IT SHOULD BE, I, I THINK IN THE FUTURE TO MR. SIMON'S POINT, IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE, UH, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE BEHIND THE TIMES A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THESE, YOU KNOW, STORMS. 25 YEAR STORMS HAPPEN EVERY YEAR NOW.
SO WE NEED TO BE OVER DESIGNING THESE THINGS JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE WEATHER THESE DAYS.
SO I HAVING A CALCULATION, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, THE ONE THAT WE SAW THE PAST TIME AND HAVING IT BLESSED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS BEING ACCURATE, THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE TO SAY IS THAT IT'S ACCURATE, I THINK IS, UH, THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
AND DAVE, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? WELL, I HAVE, I, I HAVE A, I HAVE A, I HAD A QUESTION I LIKE AND A COMMENT, SO NOW GO AHEAD.
UH, REFERENCE WAS MADE OF ABANDONED HOUSE IN THE, IN THE BRONX.
I JUST WILL REMIND EVERYONE I WAS BORN IN THE BRONX
ALRIGHT, SO MY, MY, UH, QUICK COMMENT IS, UH, YEAH, I, WE SHOULD, WE WILL TALK WITH, UH, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ON THIS.
I WILL SAY THOUGH, THAT REALLY ANYTHING, THEY ARE CHECKING THE STORM.
WE'RE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO CHECK STORMWATER ON, UH, ON EVERYTHING.
WE CAN'T, UH, ALLOW PROJECTS TO GO THAT, UH, CAUSE STORMWATER PROBLEMS. AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS CHECKED.
THE, THE QUESTION DAVE, ISN'T WHETHER IT'S CHECKED, IT'S ALWAYS CHECKED, IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE LOOKING AT 50 OR 25.
I THINK THAT'S CODE, JUST A CODE OR ABOVE.
AND WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN OUR REQUEST WE CAN SPECIFICALLY REQUEST, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT 50 YEAR.
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UNTIL WE, SOMEBODY REDEFINES WHAT A 25 YEAR STORM IS.AND IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT BE DONE.
MR. SCHMIDT, AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON 'CAUSE WE WILL HAVE A BIG PROJECT.
I'LL JUST QUICKLY REPORT THAT I KNOW COMMISSIONER DUANE, THE TOWNS BUREAU OF ENGINEERING AND OTHERS ARE WORKING ON REVISIONS TO THE STORMWATER CODE TO ACTUALLY CODIFY REQUIREMENTS THAT INVOLVE SOMETHING GREATER THAN A 25 YEAR STORM EVENT.
SO WE HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THOSE ACTIONS BE, UNFORTUNATELY FOR US, IT'S A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT I THINK, UH, ACTUALLY SETS THE STANDARD, THE 25 YEAR STANDARD, I THINK.
AND SO WE NEED TO SET OUR OWN STANDARDS OUTSIDE OF THAT.
WHAT IS THE, UH, TERM OF ART OR, OR THE TECHNICAL DEFINITION OF A 25 YEAR STORM BECAUSE OF THAT.
'CAUSE THEY HAVEN'T, THEY HAVEN'T CAUGHT UP YET TO THE WEATHER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I ENTERTAIN A MOTION? UH, AND, AND I, I WOULD HOPE MR. GOLDEN WILL, WILL MAKE THAT MOTION FOR US.
MR. GOLDMAN, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON YOUR COMMENT.
YEAH, I, I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, UM, NOTING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF CLOSE BY PROPERTIES THAT ARE UNDERSIZED, BUT THE ADVANTAGES OF THIS APPLICATION AND THE, UM, BUILDING ON THE SITE, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD ARGUE FOR A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
NAMELY, RIGHT NOW IT'S AN UNSIGHTLY ABANDONED LOT.
I'D SAY IT LOOKS LIKE A BROOKLYN LOT.
I, I I I MY BRONX COMMENT COMMENTS AND, UH, I'M GONNA DUMP ON BROOKLYN NOW.
ANYBODY HERE FROM BROOKLYN? I'M A CELTICS FAN.
THEY CAN DUMP ON BROOKLYN ALL YOU WANT.
FACT QUEENS, WE'LL BLAME QUEENS.
SO WALK AWAY FROM QUEENS AND FROM QUEENS.
THE ADVANTAGE AND, AND THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WILL BE A VAST AND IMPROVEMENT ON THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? WALTER, IF WE MOVE TO STATEN ISLAND VERSUS BROOKLYN, AND I CAME UP BROOKLYN.
ALL FAVOR OF NOT USING A NEW YORK REFERENCE IN THIS RECOMMENDATION TO THE, YEAH.
HOW ABOUT JERSEY? THE DESCRIPTION? HOW ABOUT JERSEY? HOW ABOUT, IT LOOKS, HOW ABOUT IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON ACROSS, UNFORTUNATELY ACROSS THE OCEAN RIGHT NOW? THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT? OKAY.
LET, LET'S NOT PUT A REFERENCE TO ANYTHING RELATING TO NEW YORK.
ALRIGHT, SO I HAVE A SECOND IN THAT CASE.
MR. MR. SIMON HAD ALREADY SECONDED IT, BUT YOU COULD HAVE VOTED AGAINST IT OTHERWISE.
POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD.
WHEN ARE YOU ON, UH, MS. DESCALE IN THE ZONING BOARD? I, I THINK, I THINK NEXT WEEK.
WE CAN'T SCHEDULE UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THEY DO.
SO I MEAN, JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE ON NEXT WEEK DOESN'T MEAN THEY'LL MAKE A DECISION NEXT WEEK.
SOMETIMES IT TAKES, THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT I, I WOULD TAKE A, I THINK YOUR MAP, I THINK TO TOM'S POINT, I DON'T THINK YOUR MAP IS RIGHT.
I THINK IT UNDER THE MAP YOU DID UNDERSTATES, YOU, YOU GAVE US A LISTING OF PROPERTIES AND THERE WERE A LOT OF THEM THAT WERE ACTUALLY UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM, THEY WERE ALL 49 27.
I, I, I'LL READ, I'LL READ, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I MEAN THE MORE, THE MORE INFO AND OH BY THE WAY, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LOT TWO TWO LOTS TO THE NORTH OF YOURS, IT MAY BE BIGGER, BUT I THINK THE FRONTAGE IS LESS LOOKING AT YOUR MAP.
THE MORE YOU CAN PRESENT TO THE ZONING BOARD, UH, THE BETTER FOR YOUR CASE ACTUALLY.
AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'LL TRANSMIT THE SEEKER EGG DECK THAT WAS VOTED UPON BY THE PLANNING BOARD THIS EVENING AS WELL AS THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION AND WE'LL SEND COPIES OFF TO YOU.
I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST MAKE ONE SUGGESTION.
WHEN YOU GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD WITH YOUR MAP, YOU MAY WANT TO COLOR CODE THE ZONING BOARD PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, RED.
OBVIOUS AT THE FIRST QUESTION.
THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT, MR. GOLDMAN.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS PP 7 17 36.
SO THIS HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2017, COMING BACK TO US, UH, FOR SEVERAL
CO SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS ON
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IT'S FROM PRAIRIE SUBDIVISION PLANNING BOARD, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, WETLAND, WATERCOURSE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.TONIGHT IS, IS JUST A WORK SESSION.
SO, UM, I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE INTERESTED PARTIES LISTENING IN TONIGHT, AND THEY'RE WELCOME TO LISTEN IN TONIGHT.
I PROMISE YOU THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT SOME POINT ON THIS, UH, PROBABLY SOONER THAN LATER, AT WHICH POINT, FEEL FREE, UH, TO COME WITH ANY, ANY INFORMATION.
AND I WANNA SAY SOMETHING HERE.
UM, ACTUALLY, I HAD, I'M GONNA MIMIC A, A, A LETTER I WROTE IN THE, UH, SCARSDALE ENQUIRER LAST WEEK.
I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ROLE, HOW IMPORTANT THE ROLE OF THE PUBLIC IS TO US.
IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THIS BOARD TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON PROPERTY.
THE MORE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC COME OUT, THE BETTER WE LIKE IT.
BUT WHEN THEY COME OUT AND COMMENT, WE WANT THEM TO COME OUT WITH HARD FACTS, NOT JUST OPINION, BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON POPULARITY OR OPINION.
THEY'RE BASED ON FACTS AND WEIGHING THOSE AGAINST LAND USE LAW.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE REASONS TO DO THINGS.
GENERALLY, WHAT HAPPENS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME IS MOST PROPERTIES, WE TRY TO MITIGATE ANY IMPACTS, BECAUSE LANDOWNERS ON NEW YORK STATE HAVE LOTS OF RIGHTS.
SO, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE FACTS TO, TO TRY TO GET THE MITIGATION NECESSARY, UH, FOR A PROJECT.
SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT, COME OUT WITH SOLID COMMENTS, HELP US.
THIS AREA I HAPPEN TO KNOW VERY WELL.
I DRIVE IT ALMOST EVERY DAY, BUT YOU GUYS LIVE THERE AND IT'S VERY HELPFUL.
IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW THAT WE DON'T KNOW, IT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL FOR US.
OKAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, MR. SCHMIDT, YES.
SO, UH, I WON'T REPEAT ANYTHING YOU SAID, BUT I DID WANT TO INDICATE THAT THE SITE LOCATION IS WITHIN THE R TEN ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, THE APPLICANT SEEKS, AS YOU MENTIONED, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMIT, AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPROVALS IN CONNECTION WITH ITS PROPOSAL CONSISTING OF THE SUBDIVISION OF TWO EXISTING TAX LOTS IN ORDER TO CREATE FOUR ZONING COMPLIANT LOTS FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTING FOUR NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT FIRST CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AS PART OF TWO PRE-SUBMISSION CONFERENCES CALLED IN JANUARY AND APRIL, 2018, THE APPLICANT HAD PROPOSED VARIOUS LAYOUTS INVOLVING A 10 LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
AS A RESULT OF THIS BOARD'S REVIEW OF THE PROJECT, ALONG WITH INPUT FROM TOWN STAFF, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, BUREAU OF ENGINEERING, FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY UNIT, AS WELL AS INPUT FROM ITS TRAFFIC CONSULTANT JOHN CANNING.
FOR THIS PROJECT, THE APPLICANT SUBSTANTIALLY REVISED ITS PLANS TO THE PRESENT CONFIGURATION CONSISTING OF A FOUR LOT SUBDIVISION.
ON JUNE 4TH, 2019, THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL ISSUED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION WITH CONDITIONS ON THE APPLICANT'S WET AND WATER COURTS PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
THIS PROJECT WAS LAST BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD ACTUALLY AS PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING BACK ON JUNE 5TH, 2019.
AND, UH, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A LATER WORK SESSION HELD ON JULY 15TH, 2020.
I SHOULD SAY THAT AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IN 2019, ITEMS WERE BROUGHT TO LIGHT THAT THE APPLICANT WAS ASKED TO ADDRESS, AND IT NEEDED MORE TIME TO DO SO.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD RIGHTFULLY PUT OFF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO A NON-SPECIFIED DATE, WHICH WILL ULTIMATELY GET PICKED UP.
AS CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ MENTIONED, SOMETIME PROBABLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE, NEW NOTICES AND SIGNAGE WILL GO OUT, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORS AND BE SITUATED ON THE PROPERTY, IDENTIFYING THE DATE OF THE FUTURE PUBLIC HEARING POSITION.
WE ALSO HAD A PUBLICLY NOTICED SITE VISIT, UH, DURING THE SOLE PERIOD AS WELL, AS YOU RECALL.
UM, I, I DO SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I DID WANNA LASTLY JUST STATE THAT, UM, SINCE THE PROJECT WAS LAST, BEFORE THE BOARD, THE APPLICANT'S BEEN WORKING TO ADDRESS COMMENTS ISSUED BY THE TOWNS BUREAU OF ENGINEERING, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY METRO NORTH RAILROAD AND NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS PREDOMINANTLY RELATED TO DRAINAGE.
WHILE I WILL LET THE APPLICANT UPDATE THE BOARD ON THESE MATTERS IN MORE DETAIL, I QUICKLY NOTE THAT OUR OFFICE HAS RECEIVED BRIEF WRITTEN
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COMMENTS BY EMAIL FROM THE TOWNS BUREAU OF ENGINEERING, INDICATING THAT THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED MEETS THE TOWN CODE REQUIREMENTS WITH RESPECT TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND DRAINAGE.THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING TO FURTHER DETAIL THE PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MR. ZAPPY BEFORE WE GO TO MR. ZAPPY.
UM, I ACTUALLY WONDER IF IT'S, IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UH, YOU DESCRIBED IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD, UH, IF MRS. ZAPPY HAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN UP VERSUS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
DO WE HAVE THAT MRS. SCHMIDT I ASKED HIM TO.
IF HE DOES NOT, I AM PREPARED TO SHARE.
MR. ZAPPA, DO YOU HAVE THE ORIGINAL PLAN VERSUS WHERE WE ARE? UH, WE'RE AT NOW.
I IT CAN BE, I MEAN, THERE THERE WERE TWO, THERE WERE SEVERAL PLANS, BUT THERE WAS A, THERE WAS THE 10, THEN THERE WAS A FIVE, RIGHT? AND THEN THERE WAS THE FOUR, DOES I RECALL.
UH, THERE WAS MANY DIFFERENT
I I, IF YOU CAN SHOW WHERE THE 10 10 STARTED, MR. SCHMIDT AND MR. Z, THERE WERE TWO VERSIONS OF THIS, BUT SHOW THIS, THIS IS ONE I WANTED TO SHOW, NOT THE ONE ON THE PIPELINE, MR. Z ZAPPY.
YOU CAN GO THROUGH THIS JUST TO SHOW THEM JUST VERY BRIEFLY WHAT IT WAS, WHERE WE STARTED, AND THEN WHERE WE ARE.
AND THEN GO INTO THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION AS TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
UM, SO WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION.
WE HAD, UM, DONE A CONVENTIONAL LAYOUT, UM, SHOWING 10, UH, ZONE OF COMPLIANT LOTS.
FIVE WERE ORIGINALLY OFF OF OLD COLONY, FIVE WERE OFF OF PIPELINE DOWN BELOW.
UM, THE ULTIMATE INTENTION WITH THIS PLAN WAS TO APPLY A CD OVERLAY DISTRICT.
UM, THIS PLAN YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS THE, UH, THE PLAN THAT WE HAD PROPOSED AND WORKED THROUGH, UH, WHICH SHOWS 10 BUILDING LOTS, ALL FRONTING WITH ACCESS OFF OLD COLONY ROAD.
UM, ALL OF THESE HOMES, BASICALLY, UH, THEY'RE ALL ACCESSED OFF OF OLD COLONY.
UM, SOME ISSUES WITH THIS PLAN WERE SOME SITE DISTANCE ISSUES AND SOME ROCK OUT CROPPINGS ALONG THE SOUTHERN AREA OF THE SITE, UM, FORCING THOSE HOMES TO BE AND LO THOSE HOMES AND LOTS TO BE ALTERED.
UM, WHICH KINDA EVOLVED INTO A SMALLER, UH, PLAN.
UM, THERE WERE SOME SITE DISTANCE QUESTIONS THAT KIND OF AROSE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TURN AT THE NORTH END ALL THE WAY DOWN.
SO WE HAD, UM, PREPARED, THIS IS, THIS WAS ANOTHER ITERATION APPLYING THE CONSERVATION, UH, OVERLAY, YOU KNOW, FIVE OFF THE TOP, FIVE OFF THE BOTTOM.
UM, THESE WERE, UH, PART OF THE INITIAL SUBMISSION THAT WE HAD MADE, SORRY, I'M KIND OF GOING THROUGH SOME OF THIS, BUT I WANTED NO PROBLEM.
THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL, UM, CONVENTIONAL LOCK COUNT WHERE WE HAD, UM, ZONING COMPLIANT LOTS.
UM, THIS, UH, THESE LOTS HAD A SERIES OF WALLS IN BETWEEN.
UM, IN THIS PLAN, YOU SEE THERE'S FIVE SPACED OUT HOMES, UM, ALONG THE TOP AND THEN FIVE SPACED OUT HOMES ALONG THE BOTTOM.
UM, THIS LOT IS, UH, WAS ZONING COMPLIANT, BUT THERE WAS OTHER FACTORS SUCH AS STEEP SLOPES, UM, TRAVELERS ALONG AQUEDUCT PIPELINE MM-HMM.
DO YOU HAVE THE CURRENT PLAN, MR. ZAPPY, OR DO YOU NEED ME TO SHOW THAT? YEAH, SO I CAN GO INTO, UM, THE CURRENT PLAN NOW, LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHARE THE SCREEN.
IF NOT, I CAN MAKE IT AVAILABLE.
SO WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT HERE IS OLD COLONY ROAD, WHICH IS THIS GRAY SHADED REGION ALONG THE, THE TOP OF THE PROPERTY.
HERE YOU SEE, UH, AQUEDUCT OR PIPELINE ROAD ALONG THE BOTTOM DOWN BELOW.
UM, UP HERE YOU WILL SEE THE LOCATION MAP OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS, UM, IN TOWN.
THIS, UH, THE BLUE LINE IS THE ZONING BOUNDARY FOR THE R 10 ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, THE BLACK LINE, UH, JUST TO THE RIGHT IS THE, UM, THE TOWN BOUNDARY.
UM, SO WE HAVE TWO EXISTING OVERSIZED TAX PARCELS, TAX LOT 11 AND TAX LOT 12.
THIS BLACK LINE RIGHT HERE IS THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, YOU'LL SEE IT COME DOWN THROUGH THE MIDDLE.
UM, SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS ON TAX LOT 11, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON THIS PROJECT WAS, UM, DELAYED, WAS THE, THIS LITTLE SQUARE UP AT THE TOP IS THE HEAD WALL, UH, WHERE SOME DRAINAGE ENDS UP DUMPING ONTO THE PROPERTY.
THIS DRAINAGE ENDS UP COMING DOWN THROUGH THIS SQUIGGLY LINE, AND IT DISCHARGES RIGHT ONTO PIPELINE DOWN BELOW.
UM, THIS WAS INTENDED TO BE CAUGHT THROUGH THIS EXISTING GROUND CONCRETE PIPE.
IT'S A STORM DRAIN THAT RUNS ALONG PIPELINE.
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UM, I'LL, UH, I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AS I GO THROUGH THIS.UM, SO FROM THAT PLAN, WE'LL SEE HERE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
WE'RE PROPOSING FOUR ZONING COMPLIANT BUILDING LOTS.
UM, THIS PLAN HAS BEEN MODIFIED SINCE WE'VE RECEIVED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT MEMO TO NOW REFLECT, UH, 30 FOOT MAX DRIVEWAY WIDTH.
UM, IT HAS BEEN SHOWN ON THE PLANT AT 30 FEET, AS WELL AS, UM, LABELED.
UM, SO THESE DRIVEWAY ACCESS LOCATIONS WE'RE VETTED BY, UM, THE TROUT TOWN, UH, WAS IT SAFETY OFFICER.
UM, THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE TOWN TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, UM, TO HAVE ADEQUATE SIGHT DISTANCE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
UM, THIS IS, UH, THE KIND OF THE PREFERRED ACCESS POINTS.
SO THIS PLAN HERE IS THE, UH, STORM WATER UTILITY PLAN.
UM, EACH ONE OF THESE HOMES IS PROPOSED TO STORE OR CAPTURE, HANDLE A A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT.
UM, THE TOWN ONLY REQUIRES A 25 YEAR STORM EVENT, SO THE STORM WATER FOR THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND ALL OF THE PROPOSED HOMES HAVE BEEN OVER DESIGNED TO EXCEED THIS A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT.
UM, LOOKING OVER HERE IN BETWEEN LOT THREE AND FOUR, YOU WILL SEE A DRAINAGE PIPE STARTING UP HERE, DRAIN, AND THIS SEGMENT COMING DOWN THROUGH THE PROPERTY WITH THESE LITTLE ARROWS SHOWING THE DIRECTION OF THE FLOW DOWN TO THE DRAIN MANHOLE HERE.
FURTHER DOWN, COMING OVER TO THIS BRAKE LINE, CONTINUING A FEW 245 FEET BEFORE IT REACHES A HEAD WALL AND PIPELINE ROAD.
THIS SECTION OF PIPE IS PROPOSED, UM, 30 INCH PIPE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO POINT RIGHT HERE, WHERE IT NOW BECOMES TWO SIDE BY SIDE 24 INCH PIPE.
THIS HAD TO BE SIZED TO ADEQUATELY HANDLE ALL UPSTREAM FLOWS COMING DOWN AND THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
UM, THIS TOOK A LONG TIME TO THOROUGHLY VET AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WOULD BE NO INCREASE IN RUNOFF, BUT NOT JUST AN INCREASE, A DECREASE.
SO THIS PLAN DOES PROPOSE A DECREASE IN RUNOFF.
ANYTHING THAT USED TO COME DOWN RUNOFF ONTO AQUEDUCT DRIVE IS NOW BEING CAPTURED AND BROUGHT OVER, SAFELY CONVEYED AWAY FROM PIPELINE UNDERNEATH PIPELINE, AND ULTIMATELY DOWN TO THE BRONX RIVER.
UM, THERE IS A CON, UH, NOT CONSERVATION, A UTILITY AND ACCESS EASEMENT THAT ALLOWS ACCESS TO, UM, ANY FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR MAINTENANCE OF THIS.
UM, CURRENTLY THE AMOUNT OF DRAINAGE IS CAUSING A LOT OF DEBRIS TO CLOG THIS EXISTING 18 INCH PIPE DOWN BELOW.
BY DOING THESE IMPROVEMENTS, THERE WILL NOT, NO WILL, THERE'LL NO LONGER NEED TO BE MAINTENANCE OR MUCH LESS FREQUENT MAINTENANCE OF THIS, UM, THIS SEWER OVER HERE, BASED ON THIS EXISTING SEWER THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY, IT WAS REQUESTED THAT THE SEWER BE SHIFTED OVER, UM, SLIGHTLY.
AND, UH, NEW, A NEW SEWER MAIN INSTALLED FOR THIS SECTION HERE, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE SEWER MANHOLE AND SECTION OF PIPE.
UM, OVER HERE ON THIS PLAN, WE HAVE THE SEDIMENT AND EROSION CONTROL PLAN.
UM, THIS PLAN BASICALLY HAS EROSION CONTROL BLANKETS OVER ALL PORTIONS OF STEEP SLOPES.
UM, SILT FENCE, UH, CONSTRUCTION DELINEATION FOR THE LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE, UM, STABLE INLET PROTECTION.
SO THIS PLAN ENSURES NO SEDIMENT AND RUNOFF DOWNSTREAM TOWARDS PIPELINE OR, OR ANYTHING FURTHER SOUTH.
SO WE HAVE THE STEEP SLOPE PLAN HERE.
THE DARKER SHADED REGIONS ARE THE STEEPER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE LIGHTLY SHADED REGIONS ARE THE LESS STEEP PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
SO YOU'LL SEE MOST OF THE HOMES ARE IN THE FLATTER AREA OF THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE REALLY ONLY, UM, TWO, TWO STEEP PORTIONS, WHICH IS THE PORTION DIRECTLY AGAINST OLD COLONY ROAD, AND THEN THE PORTION DIRECTLY AGAINST PIPELINE ROAD.
A LARGE SECTION OF THE INTERIOR AREA OF THE PROPERTY IS RELATIVELY FLAT WORKING OUR WAY DOWN HERE.
UM, SO THIS PLAN WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT THE NEW TREE, UH, PRESERVATION AND REFORESTATION PLAN.
UM, THIS WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT TO, UM, ALSO INCLUDE THE STORMWATER RUNOFF, UM, BASED ON THE I I TREE VALUES AND, UH, FOR RUNOFF AND CARBON SEQUESTRATION.
UM, SO THIS PLAN, ALTHOUGH MAY HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, UM, FROM THE LAST, UH, TREE PRESERVATION AND REFORESTATION AND REFORESTATION, UM, BUT THIS
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HAS BEEN DONE TO COMPLY WITH THE NEW, UM, OR NEW-ISH, UH, TREE LAW.COMING DOWN HERE WE HAVE SOME SECTION PROFILES THROUGH THE PROPERTY PROFILES OF THE SEWER MAIN, UM, DRAINAGE, UM, SECTIONS OF THE HOUSES.
YOU'LL SEE HERE ALL OF THESE DRIVEWAYS TO THE PROPOSED RESIDENCE ARE RELATIVELY FLAT.
UM, SOME AREAS THERE'S REALLY NOT TOO MUCH, UH, TOO MUCH FILL OR TOO HIGH OF A WALL IN THE BACK, BUT IT DOES SHOW THE AREAS OF PROPOSED CUT AND FILL.
UM, AND THEN HERE WE HAVE THE SITE DISTANCE AND SIGHT LINES, UM, WHICH THROUGHOUT THE APPLICATION THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY, UM, VEHICLES TRAVELING ALONG OLD COLONY ROAD.
SO THIS IS, UM, WHAT DROVE THIS PLAN HERE TO SHOW THAT, UM, VEHICLE, I GUESS ALL THE, UM, THE SITE DISTANCES COMPLY.
UM, SO THERE, GOING BACK TO THE DRAINAGE, THERE WAS A LONG TIME OR A BIG HOLDUP WITH THE DRAINAGE COMING THROUGH THE PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT THOROUGHLY VETS HOW MUCH WATER'S COMING THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND WHERE IS IT GOING.
UM, THERE IS A REDUCTION OF UP TO A HUNDRED YEAR STORM ON THE PROPERTY.
AND EVERYTHING TRAVELING THROUGH THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN, UM, REDUCED FOR RUNOFF AND VOLUME.
UM, I GUESS THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? TAKE THE DOWN, DOWN THE, UH, CHART FOR A SECOND, MR. ZAPPER.
MR. SIMON, HOW DO I STOP THE SCREEN? OKAY.
UH, YES, MR. MRS. APTO, I WAS, UH, I WAS, UH, WITH YOU AT THE VERY START OF THIS, UH, APPLICATION.
SO, UH, UM, YOU'VE DONE A SUBSTANTIAL JOB IN THE DRAINAGE, WHICH WAS A BIG ISSUE OF BRINGING DOWN THE, TAKING OFF THAT WATER AND BRINGING IT DOWN TO AEST.
NOW WHAT ARE THE PLANS YOU PRESENTED TO US THIS, UH, THIS EVENING? ARE THERE ANY OTHER DRAINAGE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PLANS? BECAUSE, UH, THE PLANS ITSELF REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT I'VE SEEN THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, UH, TO THE BEST OF, UH, MY KNOWLEDGE.
WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL ISSUES PERTAINING TO DRAINAGE AND ALL OTHER ISSUES WITH THE PROJECT.
MR. ZAY, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND, YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN A BLESSING, NOT THAT YOU NECESSARILY NEED ONE, BUT A BLESSINGS A METRO NORTH, YET THEY, THEY'RE NMPA YOU, YOU, AND THEY ARE AT AN IMPASSE.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I'M SURE.
UM, METRO NORTH WOULD LOVE FOR US TO, UH, IMPROVE THEIR TRACKS ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM THE CITY OR UP FROM THE CITY ALL THE WAY UP TO CROTON.
UM, BUT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THEM HAPPY.
BUT SOME PEOPLE YOU JUST CAN'T.
AS I UNDERSTAND SPECIFICALLY THE DIFFERENCES, YOU'RE, YOU ARE TAKING IT DOWN TO THE FIRST CUL CULVERT, I BELIEVE, RIGHT ON, ON THE PIPELINE ROAD, THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THAT AT YOUR EXPENSE.
AND THEY WANTED YOU TO GO TO THE NEXT CULVERT BECAUSE THAT ONE LEADS TO A CULVERT UNDERNEATH THE TRACKS, AND THAT'S ANOTHER 250, 300 FEET AWAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THEY HAD ASKED US TO, UH, SAFELY MODEL THE STORM WATER GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN, UM, THROUGH, BASICALLY THROUGH THEIR CULVERT BELOW THE TRACKS.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING TO REPLACE THE EXISTING SECTION OF PIPE ALONG PIPELINE ROAD AT ALL AT OUR EXPENSE.
UM, THAT'S THE ROUTE THE WATER CURRENTLY FLOWS.
THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT HAS A REDUCTION IN THE FLOW.
AS YOU KNOW, AS YOU RECALL FROM I THINK THE LAST PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC HEARING, I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE, LIKE EONS AGO, THE PRE COVID
NOW, AS PART OF THIS, THERE WAS ANALYSIS DONE OF WHERE THE WATER WAS COMING FROM.
COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHERE THAT WATER WAS COMING FROM FOR US? SO THERE'S A LARGE 15 ACRE, UH, WATERSHED CONSISTING OF ALL PROPERTIES ON TOP OF, UH, UH, MIDVALE AND EVERYTHING.
ALL OF THIS WATER COMES DOWN LIKE A FUNNEL.
IT'S CAPTURED AND ENDS UP DUMPING RIGHT ONTO THE PROPERTY.
MORE WATER IS COMING ONTO THE PROPERTY THAN THE PIPE DOWN BELOW CAN HANDLE.
UM, THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES US TO CONSIDER, UM, MAX IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IN OUR
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DESIGN.SO, ALTHOUGH THERE'S ONLY, YOU KNOW, 25% I BELIEVE, OF THIS ENTIRE 15 TO 18 ACRE WATERSHED, UM, 25% IMPERVIOUS, WE ARE BEING SAFELY CONSERVATIVE AND FOLLOWING THE CODE, ASSUMING 35% IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
SO WE'RE ASSUMING MORE WATER WAS GONNA END UP RUNNING OFF QUICKER DOWN THROUGH THERE THAN ACTUALLY WILL.
UM, EVERYTHING WAS OVERDESIGNED, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, BUT PART THE WATER ISSUE.
WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THE WATER ISSUE THAT IS CURRENTLY ON PIPELINE WHEN IT HAPPENS IS BECAUSE OF WATER THAT IS COMING FROM ACROSS OLD COLONY ROAD DOWN THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY.
AND THEN THERE IS A, THE PIPING ON THE PIPELINE CURRENTLY IS, IS SMALLER AND BE AND GETTING CLOGGED WITH SEDIMENT.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT'S ALL OFFSITE WATER THAT COMES THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PROVING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT? YES.
AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR ALL THE OFFSITE WATER DOWN THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
AND IN ADDITION, THE WATER WILL BE IN A PIPE AS OPPOSED TO IN AN OPEN DITCH.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE A CHANCE TO OVERFLOW AND JUST, YOU KNOW, GO OUT AND CREATE THE SEDIMENT AND CREATE THE SEDIMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING CREATED AS WELL.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THOUGH, UH, UH, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DRAINAGE, WHICH IS PARKING.
WHERE ARE VISITORS GOING TO PARK WHEN THEY, THEY COME AND VISIT THOSE HOUSES? UM, THERE'S TWO PARKING SPACES IN THE GARAGE, AND THEN THERE'S TWO PARKING SPACES IN THE DRIVEWAY.
YOU CAN PROBABLY GET THREE CARS IN THERE.
UM, I, I THINK THE CODE REQUIRES TWO.
WE CAN SAFELY DO FIVE, BUT IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE REALLY MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ANY, ANY OF THE OTHER HOMES OVER THERE.
ANY OTHER QUE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? WALTER, IS YOUR HAND STILL UP FROM BEFORE OR YOU'RE ON MUTE IF YOU'RE, WALTER, YOU'RE ON MUTE.
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T BRING IT DOWN.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT? OKAY.
UM, WHAT I'D RECOMMEND, I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON, ON THIS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
UM, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT WE DO KIND OF A COMBINED WORK SESSION.
ACTUALLY, IT COULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT.
I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD NEED THE WORK SESSION.
UH, AND CAN WE DO THAT ON MAY 4TH? DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE TIME ON MAY 4TH OR, UH, WHAT WE SPOKE EARLIER, BECAUSE WE WERE THINKING THAT THE BLOOM ENERGY AND THE BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE APPLICATIONS, WHICH WE'RE IN AHEAD OF THIS ONE WOULD BE SCHEDULED FOR THAT MEETING WE WERE TARGETING, UH, MAY 18TH.
WE HAVE A COUPLE VERY LARGE PROJECTS THAT, THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOING FORWARD.
BUT SO PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 18TH, MR. BLAND, YOU CAN WRITE THAT DOWN ON YOUR CALENDAR.
FOR, THAT'LL BE THE DAY OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE METRON NORTH TO COME TO THAT PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR THEIR POINT OF VIEW ON ALL OF THIS.
IF THEY WANNA SPEAK, THEN THEY CAN, IF THEY DON'T, I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY OBVIOUSLY ON THIS.
UM, I THINK OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS, UH, MAY WANT TO BE THERE AS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC ON OLD COLONY ROAD, I KNOW THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SPEED THAT PEOPLE GO ON, ON OLD, ON OLD COLONY ROAD, UH, PARTICULARLY, WELL, THERE USED TO BE A LOT OF KIDS THAT USED TO DRIVE TO EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL THERE.
BUT, UM, SO THERE ARE CONCERNS LITERALLY ABOUT PEOPLE COMING UP AND DOWN ON PALM ROAD AND FOUR MORE CUTOUTS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE AT THE MEETING.
SO IF A TRAFFIC COULD TELL COULD BE AVAILABLE AT THAT MEETING, THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD THING AS WELL.
I MEAN, THIS IS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IS ON A, ON A REASONABLE BASIS, IT'S ONLY BEEN FIVE YEARS, SO, UM, WE REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S REASON WHY IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET THIS MOVING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AS TO WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT.
AND I THINK HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC IS RIGHT NOW THE BEST THING WE CAN DO WITH THIS AND HAVE THE PEOPLE THERE.
UM, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE C A C RECOMMENDATION, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT'S ALREADY ANSWERED IT, BUT I MIGHT AS WELL PUT IT ON THE RECORD AGAIN.
MR. ZAPPY, YOU'RE AGREEABLE TO A RESTRICTION THAT THERE'S NO FURTHER
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OR FUTURE SUBDIVISION OF THESE LOTS TO CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL FUTURE LOTS DOWN THE ROAD? YES.UM, I AM NOT SURE, UH, WHEN THIS WAS LAST ON FOR PUBLIC HEARING, WHETHER OUR, WE HAD OUR SIGN REQUIREMENT IF, UH, BUT WE DO HAVE A SIGN REQUIREMENT NOW.
SO ONCE WE'VE SELECTED THE DATE, UH, YOU SHOULD WORK WITH AARON AND HE WILL GET, UH, A SIGN OR SIGNAGE FOR THE, THE PROPERTY.
SO, UH, THE PUBLIC NOTICE, THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF A MEETING.
CAN WE ALSO SEND A NOTICE TO THE GREENRIDGE, UH, CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS WELL, SO THAT THEY KNOW AARON? YEAH.
AND I, I SENT THEM NOTICE OF, UH, THIS EVENING'S MEETING AS WELL.
ANYTHING ELSE, GUYS, BEFORE WE LET MR. ZAPPY GO TONIGHT? SO IT'S MAY 18TH, CORRECT? FOR PUBLIC DIRECT MAY 18TH? YES.
THANK YOU MR. GLYNN, FOR SITTING INTO THE WHOLE MEETING, WAITING FOR THIS AT THE END.
SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THE MEETING AS WELL, UH, MR. MR. GLEN, YOU, YOU CAN ALWAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW AS WELL AND WE CAN LET THE, A APPLICANT KNOW IF THERE THINGS THEY SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE GET 'EM IN IN THE NEXT, YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME NOW 'CAUSE IT'S NOT TILL THE 18TH.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S ABOUT A MONTH AWAY.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU OR THE COMMUNITY, ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO ASK IN ADVANCE, FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
TRY TO GET THEM IN AT LEAST A WEEK THOUGH, BEFORE THE HEARING.
SO TRY TO GET THEM IN BY THE 11TH.
ANY QUESTIONS LIKE THAT? HUGH? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.
I DIDN'T, I I, I, I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS ALLOWED TO SPEAK, SO YOU'RE REALLY NOT.
BUT I'LL LET YOU IN DEFERENCE TO YOU, SIR, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK
SO ANYWAY, ANYWAY, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
AND, AND, UH, I WILL REACH OUT TO MY, UH, FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE, UH, MEETING ON THE 18TH.
AND, UH, WE WILL BE WELL PREPARED.
ANYWAY, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND, UH, I LOOK, I, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE MEETING ON THE 18TH.
AARON, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT, THANK YOU, AARON, MR. BLAND.
AND I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE MINUTES OR THE TRANSCRIPT YES.
FROM THE PRIOR PUBLIC HEARING, JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY ADDRESSED.
WHAT I, WHAT I WANNA DO IS, UM, UH, MAKE SURE A LOT OF, UH, UM, PEOPLE CAN SEE THE, UH, THE VIDEO OF WHAT I JUST OBSERVED.
SO I I AM SURE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
IT WILL BE ON BY TOMORROW MORNING.
DID, DID MR. BLAND SUBMIT A NEW VIDEO TODAY? OR WHAT VIDEO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? NO, HE'S TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT'S WORST OF THE MEETING.
YES, TOMORROW, THANK TOMORROW MORNING.
BOARD MEMBERS, HAVE A GREAT EVENING.