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SO SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO JUST SAY, WE'RE
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CONTINUING THE WORK SESSION, SO WE'RE CONTINUING THE WORK SESSION OF MAY 3RD.HOW'S IT GOING ABOUT? WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CARESS ACT.
DID YOU CALL HER? NO, I MEAN, WE DO NEED THE STRUCTURES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, WELL LET GENERIC GIVE A INTRODUCTION SO THAT THE PUBLIC WILL UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DISCUSSING RATHER THAN US JUST DEFINITION.
SO, UM, FRANCIS, CAN I TALK TO YOU JUST BRIEFLY JUST TO WHAT WE DECIDED IN THERE? JUST TELL YOU SOMETHING.
HE DECIDED SOMETHING IN THERE? YES.
GO OUTSIDE OR WHAT? UM, IT'S ONLY CAN TAKE A SECOND.
IF YOU TURN YOUR, WHY DOES SHE THINK THAT SHE NEEDS TO USE MY PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS? YOU'VE NEVER USED MY PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, OH, SORRY.
I'M JUST LIKE, WHY DO YOU DO THAT? THIS IS A SIMPLE LAW.
PAUL, IS THIS THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I THINK IT'S GOOD.
DO YOU NEED ME? PERFECT, BECAUSE I GOT HER ON THE, UH, PHONE.
SHE'S, UH, NOT IN THE BUILDING THOUGH.
SO DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING TO HER AND PREPARE HER? WHAT, UH, LINE, WE, WE BASICALLY JUST WANT TO KNOW, UH, IF WE COULD USE A CARE ACT, THE STRUCTURES.
I MEAN, WE COULD USE IT, BUT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE B FUND BECAUSE THE CARES ACT MONEY IS IN THE B FUND.
WELL, SO LET'S WAIT UNTIL JARED IS AND ADVANCE SUPPORT IS IN THE A FUND.
JUSTIFY BEING IN THE B FUND, THEN WE CAN USE IT.
IF IT'S COMING OUTTA THE A FUND, THEN WE CAN'T USE IT.
SO LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION.
WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH JARED.
OKAY, SO JARED, IS JARED STILL ON? HE'S THERE.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ROBERTA ON SPEAKER PHONE AND, UH, MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK AND THEN WE CAN, UH, LET HER RESPOND.
SO JARED, JUST, JUST GIVE THE PUBLIC A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF, OF WHY YOU'RE, YOU'RE BEFORE US TONIGHT.
I'M THE, UM, PARAMEDIC SUPERVISOR FOR, FOR KIND GREENBERG.
UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, FIVE AMBULANCES THAT ARE, UM, ACTIVELY RESPONDING TO, UH, 7,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE A YEAR.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT KIND OF BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION WAS, UH, WITHIN LESS THAN A YEAR, WE HAVE, UH, THREE MAJOR REPAIRS TO OUR, UH, TWO DIFFERENT STRETCHERS.
AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY MUCH, UH, MADE AWARE THAT OUR STRETCHERS HAVE HIT WHAT THEY CALL END OF LIFE EQUIPMENT.
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THEY'RE APPROACHING 14 YEARS OLD.UH, THEY, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, ARE A HUGE PART OF THE, UH, AMBULANCE AND REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, STRUCTURES OR FOR, FOR TRANSPORT.
UM, BASICALLY, UM, IT IS A, A, A COSTLY ITEM THAT I THOUGHT, UH, MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UH, GO TOWARDS THE, THE, THE CAPITAL FUND.
AND THEN I REALIZED THAT THERE, UH, COULD BE SOME CARES ACT MONEY.
AND, UH, CAPTAIN VALENTINE, I SPOKE BRIEFLY WITH ROBERTA IN REGARDS TO THAT.
UM, AND OUR, SO OUR AMBULANCES RESPOND TO THE UNINCORPORATED TOWN OF GREENBURG, UM, WHICH ARE PRIMARY PURPOSES OUT OF THE, UH, BLI.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE A UNINCORPORATED, UH, FUNCTION.
UM, SO AS FAR AS FUNDING GOES, I, I THINK THE, THE MONEY'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE THAT THE AMBULANCES ARE, UH, AN A LINE FUNCTION.
UM, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY RESPOND INTO THE VILLAGES IF THEY NEED HELP ON A MUTUAL AID BASIS, BUT THIS IS A, UH, UM, THEIR, THEIR PRIMARY, UH, PURPOSES TO, UH, SERVE THE UNINCORPORATED, UH, TY GREENBERG.
SO WHEN YOU SAY, WHEN, WHEN YOU SAY STRETCHERS, ARE THESE HANDHELD STRETCHERS, ARE THEY STRETCHERS ON WHEELS? ARE THEY HANDHELD STRETCHERS THAT YOU PUT ON WHEELS? SO, UM, 14 YEARS AGO WE, I, I WROTE A GRANT.
I WAS ABLE TO, UH, GET ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR, FOR THESE STRETCHERS.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASICALLY ON FOUR WHEELS.
THEY'RE OPERATED BY, UH, BATTERIES, UH, FOR THE LIFTING UP AND DOWN.
THEY REDUCE, UM, WORK RELATED INJURIES, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE TYPICAL ONES.
UM, YEARS AGO, WE WOULD, UH, LIFT THE PA, YOU KNOW, LOWER THE PATIENT ALL WAY TO THE GROUND AND THEN LIFT A, A A 200 PLUS POUND STRETCHER WITH, YOU KNOW, THE PATIENT'S WEIGHT ON IT.
SO THESE HAVE BECOME, UH, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARD OF CARE.
THEY, UH, CONNECT TO A, A LOAD MACHINE AND BASICALLY BRING THE PATIENT UP AND INTO THE AMBULANCE FOR USE.
SO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAFE FOR THE PATIENT, THEY'RE SAFE FOR THE PEOPLE USING 'EM.
AND, UH, IT REALLY, UH, KEEPS OUR MEMBERS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT INJURY, UH, THEY'VE REALLY DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB TO, UH, REDUCE THE WORKERS' COMP.
THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED IT.
UM, THE QUESTION TO ROBERTA IS, IS THERE ANY FUNDING OTHER THAN THE CARES ACT THAT YOU COULD RECOMMEND THAT, UM, THAT THE FUNDS COME FROM? BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY CARE WHERE IT COMES FROM AS LONG AS YOU GET IT.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? NO, I'M JUST SAYING, DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, UM, OTHER LINES OR CONTINGENCIES OR WHATEVER THAT, WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, DRAW MONEY FROM PURCHASE STRETCHERS? BECAUSE IF HE NEEDS IT FOR, IT'S A LIFE SAVINGS THING, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, SO IT WOULD'VE TO COME OUT OF CONTINGENCY, RIGHT? I WOULD'VE A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
MY QUESTION IS, WHY WOULDN'T WE USE CARES ACT? YES, EXACTLY.
OR THE OTHER THING IS I THAT'S A QUESTION THOUGH.
LEMME LEMME ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE CARESS ACT, SINCE THIS IS THE, SINCE THE VILLAGES, UM, ARE BENEFITING FROM THIS ALSO.
AND, UH, ROBERTA WAS SAYING, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, AND IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, A B BUDGET, THE CARES ACT BECAUSE EACH OF THE VILLAGES, UH, COULD WE RECEIVE, RECEIVE THE MONEY? CORRECT.
COULD WE ASK THE VILLAGES, COULD WE USE, COULD WE ASK THE VILLAGES IF WE COULD ALLOCATE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE FROM THE CARESS ACT FUNDING THAT THE VILLAGES WILL GET? WELL, HOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE USAGE OF THE VILLAGES? NOW THIS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MUTUAL AID BECAUSE HE'S NO, NO, THIS IS A, THIS IS AN A, THIS IS AN A BUDGET ITEM.
SO MR. FEER? NO, MR. FEER, THIS WOULD BE A, A, A B.
HE SAID B, THE ONLY OUR AMBULANCES COME OUT OF THE B LINE FOR UNINCORPORATED OUR PARAMEDICS AND THE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT FLY CAR, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE COME OUT OF THE, UH, A LINE BUDGET, WHICH IS USED, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TOWN FOR ALL THE TIME FOR UNINCORPORATED AND INCORPORATED.
SO OUR AMBULANCES ARE PRIMARILY UNINCORPORATED USE, WHICH IS BUDGETED THROUGH THE B LINE.
WHEN YOU'RE COUNTING YOUR FIVE, ARE YOU INCLUDING THE ONE THAT'S GENERALLY PARKED AT THE IN DOBBS BURY THAT WOULD NO, THAT, THAT DOES NOT CARRY A STRETCHER.
THAT IS THE, UH, PARAMEDIC FLY CAR.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, UH, I BELIEVE THE LAST, AND SO IF, IF YOU'VE SEEN IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, LIKE THE REMOUNTED AMBULANCES, THEY'RE SITTING, YOU KNOW, AT POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND, AND OBVIOUSLY AS THEY'RE ASSIGNED, THEY GO OUT NORTH END AND SOUTH END POST.
AND THEN IF WE NEED EXTRA PEOPLE COME IN TO, TO GRAB THE, ALRIGHT, SO IT'S CLEARLY B SO MY WHY WOULDN'T WE USE THE CARESS ACT FOR,
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AND LET, LET ME ASK, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? A COUPLE QUESTIONS? I ROBERTA'S ONLINE, I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER, I'D LIKE YOU, WHY WOULD WE NOT USE THE CARES ACT? USE THE CARES ACT? OH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH USING THE CARESS ACT.I JUST, BECAUSE NORMALLY THE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT IS IN A, AS LONG AS WE CAN, AS LONG AS WE HAVE A JUSTIFICATION FOR IT TO COME AT A B, THEN WE CAN USE IT.
OKAY, SO THEN WE SHOULD USE IT.
SO DO YOU SEE A, A CONFLICT BECAUSE OF THE ADVANCED LIFE, UM, RESPONSE, JARED? NO, I, I DON'T, BECAUSE HONESTLY, THE, THE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT BUDGET IS, IS, IS PURELY, UH, PERSONNEL AND, UH, ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT EQUIPMENT, WHICH, WHICH FALLS IN THE, UH, THE TOWN WIDE, YOU KNOW, UNINCORPORATED INCORPORATED BUDGET LINES.
OUR AMBULANCES ARE REALLY STRICTLY, UM, UNINCORPORATED.
SO I DON'T SEE A CONFLICT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE DAY THEY DECIDE THEY MIGHT USE US, BUT OTHERWISE, RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY THERE IS REALLY, I DON'T SEE A, A CONFLICT.
SO HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THE PAPERWORK THAT'S NECESSARY IN ORDER FOR US TO START THIS THING GOING? YES, I DO.
UM, MY ORIGINAL EMAIL HAD A, I HAD A QUOTE ATTACHED TO IT, WHICH IS, UH, STILL VALID.
UM, THE, BASICALLY THEY'RE WILLING TO ALSO TAKE, UM, FIVE OF THE STRETCHERS, FIVE OF OUR OLD STRETCHERS BACK FROM US AND GIVE US A CREDIT OF, OF 12,500 FOR THOSE AS WELL, WHICH, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PAYS ALMOST 50% OF ONE OF 'EM.
SO, I MEAN, ON THE EQUIPMENT TOTAL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, 150, $2,579 AND THEY HAVE ONE OTHER LINE, WHICH IS, UH, PROCARE PRODUCTS, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, THE SERVICE CONTRACT.
BUT I BELIEVE WE GET A ONE YEAR WARRANTY ON THIS.
AND THAT SERVICE CONTRACT, WE COULD PUSH OFF UNTIL, UH, 23 FOR LIKE OPERATIONS BUDGET IF, UH, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT IT INTO, TO THIS.
CAN THESE, CAN THESE STRETCHERS DO STAIRS? NO, THEY DON'T DO STAIRS.
THE STRETCHERS ARE TOO HEAVY FOR THE STAIRS, BUT WE HAVE SIMILAR, UH, STAIR CHAIRS, WHICH, UH, HAVE TRACKS AND ALLOW YOU TO ROLL DOWN THE STAIRS NOW INSTEAD OF, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BASICALLY DESIGNED TO REDUCE INJURY AS WELL.
ALL OF OUR CARRYING EQUIPMENT FOR THE MOST PART IS, UH, IS SLOWLY, UH, THE TECHNOLOGY'S REDUCING, YOU KNOW, STRAIN ON THE CARRIERS.
ALRIGHT, SO ARE THEY IN GOOD SHAPE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AS WELL? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO STRUGGLE WITH SOMEBODY GETTING, GOING DOWN THE STAIRS THEN TO PUT 'EM ON SOMETHING THAT WOULD A PUSH OF A BUTTON.
SO OUR, OUR STAIR CHAIRS ARE, ARE IN, UH, PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
WE'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT AS EXPENSIVE AS THESE STRETCHERS AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, PROCURE NEW ONES THROUGHOUT, UH, A GOOD ROTATION IN THE OPERATIONS BUDGET.
DO YOU STILL NEED ROBERTA ON THE LINE? NO, I JUST FROM THE FINANCES.
WELL, HOLD ON BEFORE, 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL TALKING FINANCE.
WHAT ABOUT, DID YOU GET THREE QUOTES? JARED, GARRETT, JAR JARED.
SO THIS IS A, THERE WOULD BE A SOLE SOURCE WITH THIS.
IT'D BE A SOLE SOURCE THAT STRIKE RIGHT.
SO, UM, IT WOULD BE, UH, THEY'RE THE, IT STRYKER'S THE, UH, MANUFACTURER OF THE EQUIPMENT, BUT I COULD SEARCH FOR TO SEE IF ANYONE COULD BEAT THEIR PRICE.
BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THAT, UM, WE, WE SHOULD, IN THE PAST, EVERYTHING COME DIRECTLY FROM THEM.
WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD GET IN THE HABIT OF, OF HAVING THREE COMING TOWARDS YOU.
WE SHOULD HAVE, WE SHOULD GET IN THE HABIT OF HAVING THREE QUOTES WHEN WE ARE DOING ANY TYPE, WHEN WE TYPE DOING ANY TYPE OF BIDDING.
AND IN THOSE QUOTES, YOU SHOULD E TRY TO SOURCE, UH, DIVERSE SUPPLIER AS WELL.
AND ARE ALL, ALL FIVE IN THIS OF THE CURRENT STRETCHERS IN THE SAME COMPARABLE BAD SHAPE THAT YOU NEED TO REPLACE ALL FIVE AT ONCE? YES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, ALL 14 YEARS AND THEY'VE, THEY ALL HAVE HIGH USAGE.
UM, WE HAVE A PRETTY, UH, GOOD ROTATION PROGRAM WITH OUR AMBULANCES, WHICH REDUCES MILES AND, AND OBVIOUSLY SO ALL THE STRETCHERS ARE GETTING USED, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO IT'S CARES ACT POTENTIALLY GETTING A GRANT OR PROPERTY TAXES.
SO I, I THINK IT, I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD AT DOING THE CARESS ACT.
WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY DOWNFALL.
UM, I CAN'T IMAGINE THERE IS ANY, BUT ONCE WE GET INTO THE PAPERWORK, UH, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE PAPERWORK REGARDING THE PURCHASE, THE POTENTIAL
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PURCHASE, BUT, UM, AS FAR AS THE PAPERWORK OF FILLING OUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO SATISFY THE CARESS ACT, I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY, UM, UH, LOOK INTO THAT ALSO.UH, THE VILLAGES, UM, YOU KNOW, FIVE OF THE SIX VILLAGES WE'RE INTERESTED IN CONTRIBUTING, UM, TOWARDS PERSONNEL.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THERE AN EXTRA COST IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, PERSONNEL TO MANUS AND WHAT, WHAT'S THE COST? AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE, RIGHT NOW WE ONLY NEED THE AMBULANCE, OR DO WE ALSO NEED TO INCREASE STAFFING FOR THIS? SO RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THIS IS TO REPLACE OUR OLD EQUIPMENT AND OBVIOUSLY IF WE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE VILLAGES, UM, THAT WE SPOKE AT THE, UM, LAST E O C MEETING, UM, THAT WOULD BE ADDING AN EXTRA AMBULANCE AT LEAST, AND WOULD NEED OBVIOUSLY ONE MORE STRETCHER.
BUT I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE THAT AT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE RIGHT NOW.
I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE VILLAGES.
SO FOR NOW, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE UNINCORPORATED, WHICH IS WHERE THE, THE FIVE AMBULANCES SERVE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AMBULANCES HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN OUR CURRENT AMBULANCES.
UH, BECAUSE WITHOUT THOSE STRETCHERS, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU, YOU CAN'T RUN THAT AMBULANCE.
IF, IF, IF THE STRETCHER GOES DOWN COMPLETELY AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE JUST GONNA SPEND MORE MONEY ON, ON PARTS AND, AND, AND DAMAGE STRETCHERS TO GET A, AN AMBULANCE UP IN SERVICE SO THAT THE AMBULANCE, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO OPERATE AN AMBULANCE WITHOUT A STRETCHER.
JARED, I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE, UH, 7,000 CALLS OF SERVICE PER YEAR.
IS THAT DURING COVID, PRE COVID OR INCLUDING SOME
IT NEVER TOOK US OVER OUR, OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE.
UM, IT DID DROP DURING, YOU KNOW, 2020 WHEN, UH, PEOPLE WERE SCARED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.
BUT WE'VE RE WE'VE RETURNED TO A NORMAL CALL VOLUME AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO THE 7,000 IS A NORMAL CALL VOLUME, RIGHT? YES.
SO THEN THE CONSENSUS IS THAT WE SHOULD USE THE CARE ACT MM-HMM.
SO WE'LL AUTHOR ROBERTA, WE COULD AUTHORIZE THAT.
WELL, LET'S TAKE, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT THE PAPERWORK IS IN ORDER TO USE THAT MONEY.
RIGHT? AND JARED HAS TO ALSO, UH, GET SOME ALTERNATIVE BID, SEE IF HE CAN GET ALTERNATIVE BIDS TOO BEFORE WE AUTHORIZE ANYTHING.
SO YOU'LL FOLLOW UP WITH US, JARED? YES.
YOU HAVE SOME GUESTS FROM THE NATURE CENTER AS WHILE YOU'RE AWARE THAT'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ARE THERE ANY, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE WESTCHESTER POWER, POWER, AND EASIER.
ARE THEY CALLING IN EASIER? YEAH.
SO COULD YOU GIVE US LIKE AN UPDATE WHERE, UM, WHERE YOU ARE? YEAH, YEAH.
I GIVE YOU, UH, THESE SORT OF, UH, OVERVIEW AND I GUESS I MIGHT AS WELL USE SOME, UH, SOME, UH, SCREENSHOTS JUST TO, SO WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO COME BACK TOGETHER AGAIN AROUND THE, THE, UH, M O U THAT WE PUT OUT TO THE MUNICIPALITIES FOR, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THE PARTICIPATION IN THE CONTRACT EXTENSION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
BUT JUST TO GET EVERYBODY WARMED UP, WE'RE WESTCHESTER POWER, WE'RE THE, THE COMMUNITY ENERGY ELECTRICITY SUPPLY PROGRAM.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CURRENT ONGOING CONTRACT.
UH, WE SENT OUT SOME, UH, AN UPDATE FOR APRIL TODAY.
AND OF COURSE, THE CURRENT CONTRACT STILL IS A VERY COMFORTABLE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO BE, UH, HAVING LOCKED IN WAY BACK IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR.
AND, UM, THE, THE RATES FOR DAN, IF I COULD INTER, IF I, INSTEAD OF SEWING YOUR ACTUAL SCREEN, IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, RUN THE SLIDE.
IT'S GONNA LOOK BETTER ON TV, SO SLIDESHOW.
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THERE WE GO.YEAH, SO, SO CURRENT CONTRACT AGAIN, UH, IS, IS, UH, DOING QUITE NICELY VERSUS, UH, VERSUS CON ED AND, UM, BOTH, UM, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL AND, AND OVER THIS, UH, THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THIS CONTRACT.
UH, AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF THE GRAPH THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, IT'S JUST UPDATED.
UH, APRIL WAS AT 11.29 CENTS FOR AND, UH, FOR CON ED.
AND ACTUALLY THE, THE, UH, FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS OF THIS MONTH ARE LOOKING TO BE ABOUT 12 CENTS OR OVER.
SO IT'S, IT'S SLIPPING UPWARDS.
UM, AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE, UH, DECIDED THAT WITH ALL THE UNCERTAINTY OUT THERE, THAT WE'D RATHER NOT GO OUT FOR A LONG-TERM CONTRACT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST BUILDING IN TOO MUCH OF THAT, THAT UNCERTAINTY PREMIUM.
UH, AND WE ALSO HAVE DESIGNS ON UPDATING OUR AUCTION SYSTEM TO ENHANCE THE COMPETITION, UM, TO, TO, UH, ENABLE US TO BRING IN MORE BIDDERS.
AND SO THAT, THAT GIVES US A PLAN FOR THE YEAR, WHICH LOOKS AT AN EXTENSION NOW, OR AT LEAST STARTING AT THE END OF THIS CURRENT CONTRACT, WHICH ENDS IN, UH, JUNE 30TH AND THEN LATE IN THE YEAR, UH, TO GO TO THE FULL, FULL AUCTION FOR A LONGER TERM CONTRACT.
SO THIS YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, AND THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE NOW SINCE WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE, UH, WORKING WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES, UH, ON THIS.
AND WE DO HAVE ABOUT HALF OF THEM IN NOW WITH, UH, WITH THE NEW M O U WELL, OKAY, BACKING UP AGAIN.
UH, WHEN WE FIRST WENT OUT, UH, PRICES WERE AROUND THIS 11.76, UH, RIGHT, 11.76 AREA HERE.
AND, UH, THINGS JUST KEPT GOING UP.
BUT WE HAD SET THE, UH, PRICE NOT TO EXCEED FOR THE M O U, WHICH IS THE TRIGGER OF PARTICIPATION AT 12.50 CENTS.
WE THOUGHT THAT LEFT A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, AND OF COURSE, IT, THE THINGS JUST KEPT GOING AND KEPT GOING.
SO WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING AN UPDATE TO THAT, UH, M O U, WHICH WOULD, UH, RAISE THAT PRICE NOT TO EXCEED TO 13.90 CENTS.
UH, THAT FRANKLY IS CURRENTLY, IF WE, IF WE HAD THOSE ALL IN HAND TODAY, WE COULD NOT, UM, GET A CONTRACT.
THE LAST, UH, INDICATIVES WE HAVE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE TABLE HERE, WERE ALL CLOSING IN ON 16 CENTS.
AND JUST A, JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE THOUGHT WE HAD A LITTLE DIP, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THIS IS THE NATURAL GAS GRAPH.
AND REMEMBER WE SAID NATURAL GAS AND THE ELECTRICITY PRICES TRACK VERY WELL.
AND SO YOU, YOU GOT A DIP HERE AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD A SHOT, AND THEN IT JUST WENT UP.
SO, SO, UH, JUST TO BE UPFRONT HERE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE URGING EVERYONE TO, TO SIGN OFF ON THE CURRENT M O U, THAT'S BASICALLY NOW TO, UH, PUT OURSELVES IN POSITION IN THE HOPES THAT WE DO GET A LITTLE DIPPED DOWN, UH, ON, IN WHAT'S GOING ON NOW.
UM, AGAIN, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, UH, WHAT'S DRIVING THIS NATURAL GAS AND, UH, ESPECIALLY THE OVERSEAS EXPORTS.
UM, AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE WARMUP THAT, THAT I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE'VE ALL SEEN SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, SLIDES AND I CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK TO ANY, ANY, UH, PART OF, OF THE INFORMATION THAT, UH, YOU'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON.
BUT, UM, THAT'S SORT OF WHERE WE ARE.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE GOING AROUND TO ASK FOLKS TO, UH, IF THEY'RE READY TO EXECUTE ON THE M O U.
SO OPEN, OPEN FOR QUESTIONS OR AGAIN, UH, CLARIFICATIONS ON ANYTHING.
NOW, YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING AROUND TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND ASKING THEM TO INCREASE THEIR NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, YES.
UM, BUT WE'RE DOING THIS IN, IN, UH, QUITE AN ACCELERATED FASHION, AND JUST OVER THE PAST, UH, NOT JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER A WEEK, WE'VE GOT, I THINK ABOUT 10 OF THEM IN HAND AT THIS POINT.
AND, UH, THIS WEEK THERE'LL BE A WHOLE SLEW OF OTHER MEETINGS, AND WE HOPE TO GET MOST EVERYBODY ON BOARD SO WE HAVE THEM IN HAND AND WE'RE AT THE READY, UH, IF WE GET, UM, A FAVORABLE DIP ON THE CURVE.
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AND AGAIN, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO, TO KEEP CONTINUITY ON THE, ON THE CONTRACTS RATHER THAN HAVE EVERYBODY DROP OUT, UM, GET THE COMMUNICATION FROM THE UTILITY SAYING YOU'RE, YOU'RE MOVING.AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A MONTH LATER THEY'RE COMING BACK IN JUST TO TRY AND KEEP THE, KEEP THE CONTINUITY AND THE, AND THE MOMENTUM FOR THE PROGRAM TO CARRY US TO THAT, THAT SECOND AUCTION LATER IN THE YEAR.
VERY, UH, VERY DIFFICULT TIMES AND DIFFICULT DECISIONS FOR US ALL, FOR SURE.
WE WON'T MAKE ANY BUMPS ABOUT IT.
IF PEOPLE SAY YOU, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT OUR RATES ARE GONNA BE LOWER THAN CONED.
WHY ARE YOU SORT OF IMPOSING SOMETHING ON, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE COMMUNITY, UM, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, LETTING PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONLY OPT OUT RATHER THAN OPT IN, UM, WHEN IT COULD COST US MORE? WHAT WOULD YOUR ANSWER BE? THE ANSWER IS THAT THE, THE ANSWER IS AS THE SAME AS WE ALWAYS GIVE, BUT JUST WE DON'T KNOW WHERE CONED RATES WILL GO.
WE COULD VERY WELL BE HIGHER AND, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A PRICE NOT TO EXCEED NOW OF 13.90 CENTS.
REMEMBER THAT'S A PRICE WHICH KICKS IN ON, UH, JULY 1ST IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, AND WE ACTUALLY GET AN OFFER THAT COMES WITHIN THAT RANGE, THE GOAL IS JULY 1ST, SO IT'S NOT FOR, FOR TODAY.
AND, UM, GIVEN WHERE THINGS ARE NOW AND, AND THE, THE TRENDS, UH, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, NO SAYING WHERE PLANET IS GOING TO BE AT THAT TIME.
AND THERE IS THE, THE OPTION ALWAYS AGAIN, AND WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, TO BE AWARE OF THIS, IF IT'S, IF IT WORKS FOR THEM, UH, TO OPT DOWN TO THE STANDARD SUPPLY, WHICH WE RECALL IS ABOUT 1.72, 1.75 CENTS LESS THAN THE, UM, THAN THE RENEWABLE.
UH, SO THAT BRINGS YOU DOWN A LITTLE BIT OVER 12 CENTS, WHICH AS I SAY, IS PRETTY MUCH WHERE CONED IS TODAY.
AND WE HAVEN'T GONE INTO THE HOT WEATHER MONTHS WHERE YOU START TO SEE THE DEMAND RISE AGAIN.
SO NO, NEVER ANY WAY TO GUARANTEE WHERE WE'LL BE, BUT WITH ALL THE INPUTS THAT WE HAVE, THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF, UH, THE PAST THREE YEARS, IF YOU GO JUST ANNUALLY, YOU KNOW, NOT MONTH BY MONTH, YOU KNOW, SO THE FIRST YEAR, UM, BASED ON THE PLAN THAT THE TOWN SIGNED UP FOR, BECAUSE THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO, I THINK IT WAS JUST THE REGULAR, AND THEN WE DID THE, YOU KNOW, THE LAST CONTRACT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE GREEN.
UM, DID YOU KNOW FOR EACH OF THOSE YEARS, UH, WERE WE, DID PEOPLE SAVE A LITTLE BIT OR, UH, DID PEOPLE AT THE END OF THE 12 MONTHS ACTUALLY PAY MORE? I DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME TO REMEMBER THE YEAR BY YEARS, BUT I RECALL FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY THAT IF YOU WERE IN THE RENEWABLE FROM, FROM THE BEGINNING, THEN YOU WOULD'VE PAID ABOUT A HALF CENT MORE PER KILOWATT HOUR THAN, UH, IF YOU HAD BEEN IN CONED.
AND IF YOU WERE IN THE, THE STANDARD SUPPLY, THEN YOU WOULD'VE PAID, UH, A BIT LESS THAN CONED.
UM, SO THE, THE DIFFERENCE WAS NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, TREMENDOUS, UH, THAT HALF CENT FOR A TYPICAL, UM, SAY 500 KILOWATT HOUR BILL WORKS OUT TO ABOUT $2 AND 50 CENTS ON A BILL.
SO NOT, NOT NOTHING, BUT, UM, UH, TO, TO MOVE TO A HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ENERGY.
UH, IT PROVED TO BE QUITE ECONOMICALLY EFFICIENT.
AND, AND AS I SAY, THERE IS THE RELIEF VALVE OF THE STANDARD SUPPLY.
AND IF WE DO SO THE GREEN INITIATIVE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE BENEFITS, UH, THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHT TO THE PLANET AND ALSO TO, UH, YOUR ORGANIZATION AND MUNICIPALITIES? WELL, CERTAINLY WE KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL FACED WITH A GREAT CHALLENGE IN TRYING TO MAKE THE SHIFT TO RENEWABLE ENERGY.
AND, UM, THE CONSENSUS NOW, UH, UH, FROM ALL, ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS STUDYING THIS PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT
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OF TIME TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION.UH, AND FAILURE TO DO SO, UH, WILL RESULT IN SOME QUITE DISASTROUS CONSEQUENCES.
AND, AND JUST SORT OF, UM, UH, UTILITARIAN TERMS WILL COST US MORE TO, TO FIX THE PROBLEM LATER THAN TO DO WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING NOW, FOR SURE, ON A LOCAL LEVEL, UH, THE, THE GLOBAL WARMING CONSEQUENCES ARE ALREADY BECOMING VISIBLE.
YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME YEARS AGO WOULD'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT LESS OBVIOUS, BUT TODAY WE'RE ALL DEALING, CERTAINLY ALL OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS ON THE COAST, LONG ISLAND COAST AND THE RIVER COAST ARE ALL MAKING PLANS FOR SEA LEVEL RISE ISSUES.
OF COURSE, YOU HAVE AIR QUALITY ISSUES THAT, THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
UH, AND, UH, THERE'S EVEN, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE DIRE CONSEQUENCES WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE GULF STREAM ACTUALLY REVERSING DIRECTIONS AND LEADING TO SOME, SOME PRETTY, SO THOSE ARE THE, THE 10,000 FOOT LEVEL CONSEQUENCES BY PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ONLY, UM, CONTRIBUTING TO MAKING THAT TRANSITION, BUT WE'RE BUILDING A PLATFORM FOR, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER WORK THAT HAS TO GO ON, UH, TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST SORT OF THE PLAIN VANILLA ELECTRICITY SUPPLY, BUT WE GOT HOUSING AND VEHICLES AND THE SUPPLY ITSELF.
ALSO, WE HAVE A SORT OF EVOLUTIONARY, UM, UH, PLAN FOR THAT WHERE WE'RE STARTING THROUGH THE PURCHASE OF NEW YORK STATE RENEWABLES, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE TO WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY TRANS, UH, TRANSMIT AND TRANS DO USE NEW TRANSMISSION CAPACITY TO BRING IN THOSE GREEN ELECTRONS, UH, BY MAKING DEALS WITH, WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS, UH, IN UPSTATE NEW YORK, WE COULD NOT HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITHOUT HAVING THE, THE ABILITY TO PLEDGE THE LOADS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, SO, SO THE, THE COUNTY AND, AND ALL THE PARTICIPANTS IN WESTCHESTER POWER HAVE BEEN REALLY LEADING THE WAY IN NEW YORK STATE IN CRAFTING THE, THE STRUCTURES THAT'LL ALLOW US TO DO THIS.
LAST WEEK WHEN THE TOWN BOARD, YOU KNOW, MET, WE SAID THAT WE WOULD WANT, IF WE DID A TEMPORARY, YOU KNOW, THE SHORT TERM AGREEMENT, WE WOULD WANT, UM, TO HAVE A, A MAILING SENT OUT THAT THE TOWN WOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WRITE, JUST HIGHLIGHTING, UH, THE FACT THAT PEOPLE COULD OPT OUT.
AND THEN DISCUSSING WITH THE PUBLIC, YOU'RE BEING VERY FRANK AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE PAID, YOU KNOW, A HALF CENT MORE, THIS WAS LIKE $25.
THIS IS THE BENEFITS IN TERMS OF SOCIETY.
HOWEVER, UM, IF YOU WANT TO OPT OUT, THIS IS THE WAY YOU WOULD OPT OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT AND GIVE PEOPLE THE FACTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE ENROLL, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PE EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE.
WOULD YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DOING A MAILING, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A SHORT TERM AGREEMENT? I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT'S AN EASY THING, IS YOU'RE NOT THERE, THERE ARE COSTS INVOLVED WITH THESE, UM, WITH THESE MAILINGS FOR SURE.
AND IT IS, AS YOU SAY, ONLY A SHORT TERM, UM, UH, CONTRACT.
AND THE, THE OPT-OUT LETTER ITSELF WILL CONTAIN THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE, THE ALL, EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT OPTING OUT.
UH, IT WON'T HAVE, AS I, AS I HAD, UM, NOTED TO EVERYBODY, WE, WE'VE SENT YOU OUT A MESSAGE ABOUT OUR RECENT REFORMATTING OF THE, THE, UH, NOTIFICATION LETTER.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF CUT BACK ON, ON THE, I'LL CALL IT LIKE THE, THE PITCH PITCH STUFF.
IN A SENSE, I THINK THE END RESULT IS, IN A SENSE, GOOD, THE GOAL GOAL OF IT WAS TO ACHIEVE, UH, A REALLY, UH, GOOD, YOU KNOW, LINGUISTIC EQUITY RESULT.
WE'VE GOT A, A LETTER WHICH IS, UH, FRONT ENGLISH BACK SPANISH, AND BY STRIPPING IT DOWN LIKE THIS, IT, I, I BELIEVE ANYWAY, THAT IT MEANS THAT THE RESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE TO SORT OF, UH, WANDER THROUGH A TWO PAGE LETTER AND LOOK FOR THE THINGS THAT REALLY DISTILLED IT TO THE KEY ELEMENTS OF THE LETTER.
AND I THINK, I THINK THAT MAY ULTIMATELY BE, UM, MORE EFFECTIVE.
UH, SO WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, UH, LOOKING TO USE WITH, WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES.
UH, GREENBERG HAD A, A CUSTOMIZED LETTER AND, UH, A LOT OF THAT WAS, WAS DUE TO, UM, DESIRES AND CONCERNS, UH, SIMILAR
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TO THE ONES YOU RAISED NOW, UH, THAT WERE RAISED IN THE LAST, UM, THE LAST, UH, RE-OP AND, UM, UNDERSTANDABLY SO, YOU KNOW, WE'D OBVIOUSLY WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THEIR OPTIONS.UM, BUT I DO THINK THE LETTER DOES, DOES LAY THOSE OUT, UH, IN PRETTY CLEAR, CLEAR LANGUAGE AND, AND, UH, WOULD ASK TO, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND CONSIDER WHETHER THAT WILL DO THE JOB FOR YOU OR NOT.
THE TROUBLE WITH THE LETTER IS THAT IT'S, IT'S GONNA GO INTO AN ENVELOPE, RIGHT? THIS IS TRUE.
AND SO SOMEHOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT.
SO WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TELEMARKETING LETTERS THAT PEOPLE GET AND JUST TOSS HOW YOUR LETTER SOMEHOW DISTINGUISHES ITSELF THAT IT'S GOING TO GET OPENED, UM, IT'S A POSTCARD THAT YOU DON'T HAVE, EVEN AS IF YOU WALK TO THE GARBAGE CAN WITH IT, YOU'RE LIKELY GOING TO TAKE A LOOK ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.
UH, AND FIRST OF ALL, THEY SHOULDN'T BE PUTTING IT INTO A GARBAGE CAN BECAUSE THAT'S NOT RECYCLING, BUT THAT'S RIGHT.
THE IDEA OF A POSTCARD IS THAT IT'S AT, THERE'S AT LEAST A GLANCE AT THE INFORMATION.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS, WHAT DOES YOUR ENVELOPE LOOK LIKE? YEAH.
AND WE DID ACTUALLY, UM, RECENTLY DO A, A MODEST REDESIGN OF THE ENVELOPE AND INCREASED THE SIZE OF THE MUNICIPAL SEAL, UH, BECAUSE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, UH, RESPONSE TO, TO THOSE TYPE OF OBSERVATIONS.
UH, SO THERE'S THE, THE MISSILE SEAL'S BEEN INCREASED IN SIZE AND THERE'S A VERY CLEAR, UH, YOU KNOW, WORDING ON THE ENVELOPE TO THE EFFECT, LIKE, THIS IS YOUR, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY ENERGY, UH, PROGRAM, ENROLLMENT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE READ KIND OF THING.
SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY STARK, BUT
SO WHEN THIS TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AN OPTOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, OPTOUT PERIOD START DATE, THE, THERE'S NEVER A PENALTY TO OPT OUT, SO THERE'S REALLY NO END DATE TO OPTING OUT, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SOMETIMES IT, UM, IT CHALLENGES US WORDING WISE.
'CAUSE WE LIKE TO, WITH THE OPTOUT LETTER, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A NEW CUSTOMER WHO'S NEVER BEEN IN THE, THE PROGRAM, THEN THEY OPT OUT WITHIN THE 30 DAYS.
THEY WILL NEVER HAVE ROLLED INTO THE PROGRAM, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE MAILING THAT WE'D BE DOING.
HOWEVER, THIS WILL ALL BE CURRENT CUSTOMERS.
UH, WE DON'T INTEND TO BRING IN THE, THE NEW CUSTOMERS THAT WE PERIODICALLY DO JUST FOR THIS SHORT EXTENSION.
UH, SO THEY WOULD BE BASICALLY IN THE SAME POSITION.
THEY'RE ALWAYS IN, THEY CAN OPT OUT AT ANY TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, DURING THE 30 DAY PERIOD, IF THEY OPT OUT, THEY WILL NOT COME INTO THE NEW CONTRACT, BUT THEY CAN OPT OUT AT ANY TIME.
SO WHEN IT SAYS USE, UH, USE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING METHODS BY THE END OF THE 30 DAY OPT-OUT PERIOD ON, AND IT GIVES THE DATE OF THE 30TH DAY, WHAT MEANING DOES THAT HAVE? UM, SO YOU, WE NEED TO RES HAVE REGISTERED THAT OPT OUT BY THE END OF THAT 30 DAY PERIOD.
THAT MEANS IF YOU ARE DOING IT BY CALLING US OR DOING IT ON THE WEB, SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO IT PRETTY MUCH UP TO THAT, THAT TIME.
UH, IF YOU ARE MAILING BACK THE CARD, I THINK ON THE CARD IT DOES SAY, OR SOMEWHERE ON THERE, IT DOES SAY WE SHOULD RECEIVE THE CARD BY, BY THAT TIME.
SO THERE IS A, A, A GAP IN THE SENSE THAT THERE'S A MAILING TIME THERE.
SO IS THERE A CARD GOING INTO THE ENVELOPE AS WELL FOR THEM TO MAIL BACK? YES, AND I, I GUESS I SHOULDN'T CALL IT A CARD, IT'S A PREPAID, UM, PREPAID, UH, SLIP AND AN ENVELOPE THAT GOES IN, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CARD THAT WE WERE PUTTING WORDING ON.
I MEAN, THIS LETTER IS FINE IF IT EVER GETS READ.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SPEAKING TO THE CONTENTS OF IT, IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, A LETTER IS FINE IF IT EVER GETS READ, BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE A CARD THAT WILL COME BACK.
BUT I, I THINK IT'S VERY CONFUSING, PARTICULARLY SINCE THIS.
HOW COULD SOMEBODY, HOW COULD SOMEBODY IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG
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NOT BE IN THIS PROGRAM? IF YOU COME IN AND BUY A HOUSE RIGHT NOW FROM SOMEBODY WHO IS CURRENTLY IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG OR A NEW, LET'S DO A NEWLY BUILT HOUSE MM-HMM.SO, SO THE, THE WAY THE PROGRAM IS OPERATED ON A PERIODIC BASIS, WE GET A NEW CUSTOMER FILE FROM CON EDISON, AND THEN A MAILING IS DONE JUST AGAINST THAT, THAT FILE.
SO IF SOMEONE'S MOVING IN AROUND THIS, YOU KNOW, THE TIME OF THIS NEW RENEWAL, WE SAID, BECAUSE IT'S A SHORT PERIOD, AND RATHER THAN HAVE NEW CUSTOMERS COME IN AND ENROLL, AND THEN SHORTLY LATER WE'VE GOT A, ANOTHER RENEWAL AND THEY'RE JUST GETTING SORT OF ACCOMMODATED TO BEING IN THE PROGRAM AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SEEN ENOUGH, UM, WE SAID WE'LL POSTPONE ANY NEW CUSTOMER, UM, ENROLLMENTS AND MAILINGS UNTIL THE, THE AUCTION FOR THE LONGER TERM CONTRACT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING FOR THIS EXTENSION, THE INTENT IS JUST TO INCLUDE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROGRAM AND PRESUMABLY ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE FAMILIAR WITH THINGS FOR THAT.
SO SINCE IT'S FOR PEOPLE ALREADY IN THE PROGRAM, I, I, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME WORK ON THE END OF THE 30 DAY OPTOUT PERIOD BECAUSE ELSEWHERE YOU SAY THERE, THERE'S NO PENALTY FOREVER OPTING OUT.
AND SO YOU HAVE TO REALLY DEFINE AS TO WHAT IS IT THAT HAPPENS TO YOU THAT WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAPPEN IF YOU GO PAST THE 30 DAY OPTOUT PERIOD? YES.
I MEAN, YOU LEMME I'LL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT.
BASICALLY, IF YOU GO PAST THAT 30 DAYS BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT, YOU'LL BE ENROLLED IN THE NEW CONTRACT AND THEN THE OPTING OUT WOULD TAKE AS IT AS IT NORMALLY DOES, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, ONCE YOU'RE ENROLLED, THEN WHEN YOU OPT OUT, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN YOUR READ CYCLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S EITHER ONE OR TWO BILLING PERIODS TO COMPLETE THAT PROCESS WITH THE UTILITY.
UH, IF YOU OPT OUT DURING THE OPT OUT PERIOD, THEN YOU WILL NOT BE ENROLLED IN THE NEW CONTRACT.
SO YOU WOULD END ON JUNE 30TH OR YOUR FIRST METER READ AFTER JUNE 30TH, ACTUALLY.
UM, SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS IN THAT.
WE ALWAYS SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT WITH DISTINGUISHING THOSE, THOSE TWO, TWO, UM, CASES REALLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO IS THERE A CONSENSUS ON THE BOARD? I, I REALLY WANNA SEE THE LETTER, THE LETTER, THE LETTER.
UH, I MEAN, I, I'M SEEING THE LETTER I NOW, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE CARD THAT THEY MAILED BACK.
SO THE, THE CARD, I CALLED IT A CARD, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A, A PIECE OF PAPER AND ONE THIRD OF IT IS THIS FORM THAT PEOPLE CHECK OFF.
I ALREADY HAS THEIR ID, IT'S PRE, PRE-PRINTED WITH THEIR ID ON IT.
THEY CHECK OFF, I DON'T WANNA, UH, I DON'T WANNA PARTICIPATE.
THEY STUFFED THAT IN THE, THE, UH, UH, FREE POSTAGE ENVELOPE AND THROW IT IN THE MAIL.
SO IT'S NOT A, IT IS NOT A POSTCARD.
SHOULDN'T HAVE USED THAT TERM.
YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I ALREADY GOT OUT OF THAT, UH, OUT OF THAT SCREEN.
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THAT FIRST LINE WHERE YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN THIS PROGRAM FIRST LINE THAT IT'S ONLY TWO LINES LONG.
I BELIEVE THAT'S BOLDED THAT IT END WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, UM, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPT OUT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT, RIGHT THERE AT THE END OF THAT SENTENCE.
UH, THE FOLLOWING GIVES GIVES YOU, UM, OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO REMAIN IN THE PROGRAM OR OPT OUT IF YOU WANT TO BE, UH, UNBIASED ABOUT IT.
UM, THAT'S, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A SHOT AT THAT AND SEE IF, UH, WE CAN COME UP, UH, AND PUT THAT WORDING IN, UH, AND UH, MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU.
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ANYTHING ELSE? NO.SO YOU'LL GET US THE LETTER YEAH.
I'LL TRY TO GET THAT TO, YOU KNOW, FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
SO WE EAST HARSDALE AVENUE DINING AGAIN.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WILL WAIT UNTIL GARRETT'S BACK.
LET'S DISCUSS CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, RIGHT.
AMONG OTHER THINGS AND, UH, PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING IN PARTICULAR PEOPLE.
WE WILL NOT BE COMING BACK TODAY.