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OKAY.

[00:00:01]

I'D LIKE TO,

[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]

UH, UH, WELCOME YOU TO THE BOARD MEETING AND WE'RE GONNA JUST START BY WITH A, A MOTION FOR A COOK EXECUTIVE, UH, SESSION.

AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK.

THE MOTION.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS WILL BE? INTERVIEW BOARD.

COMMISSIONS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

YOU READY? ALRIGHT.

RECORDING.

STOPPED.

OKAY, PAUL, YOU READY TO GO? OKAY.

SO WE'RE READY FOR, UH, THE TOWN BOARD, UH, UH, PUBLIC WORK SESSION.

I WANTED TO, UH, START BY INTRODUCING YOU TO OUR, UH, STUDENTS.

WHAT WE'RE SOMEBODY COMING? OH, THANK YOU, .

IT'S A COURSE OF HELLO? HELLO.

ARE YOU GUYS ARE PRESENTING ON, UM, THE BABY FORMULA? WE'RE GONNA PRESENT ON THE BABY FORMULA SHORTAGE, UH, NEXT WEEK, LIKE A BIGGER PRESENT, UH, PRESENTATION.

BUT THIS WEEK WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND, UM, KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO FURTHER ON TO.

PERFECT.

NOT READY YET.

OKAY, PERFECT.

JUST GIVE US MM-HMM.

.

SO WE JUST PREPARED THAT SOMEBODY'S COMING IN BY ZOOM.

SO WHO'S COMING IN BY ZOOM? UH, SOMEBODY THAT'S FOR GARRETT'S PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

HE'S UNABLE TO DO IT, TO EXECUTE IT.

SO YOU SUGGESTED THIS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, A SUGGESTION THAT BEGIN.

SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR, FOR HIM WHEN HE, IT IS A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION.

I'M OKAY.

THAT'S IS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

JUST MADE A LOT NOISE.

I CAN KIND OF HEAR YOU LIKE, SO JUST COLLEGE QUESTION.

SHOULD WE SAY WHAT COLLEGE? YEAH, SURE.

START OFF RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

WE'RE READY? YEAH.

GOOD.

SO, UH, UH, WELCOME.

WE'RE BACK AT THE TOWN BOARD ON WORK SESSION.

WE HAVE, UH, SOME OUTSTANDING, UH, STUDENT INTERNS, UM, FROM, UM, BOSLEY AND EDMONT ON, YOU KNOW, HIGH SCHOOLS.

AND, UM, MAYBE YOU COULD TELL US A LITTLE BIT WHAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE DONE AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.

THE NEXT WEEK THEY'LL DO A, A MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION.

UH, IS THE MIC ON SAM? MAKE SURE THE MIC IS ON.

YEAH.

HELLO.

YEAH.

BRING IT CLOSER TO YOU.

OKAY.

UH, I'M SAM, I'M A RISING COLLEGE FRESHMAN.

HOW ABOUT SCHOOL? YEAH, I'M GOING TO SUNY PLATTSBURGH.

ALRIGHT.

OH, YEAH.

I'M ALEX STEIN.

I'M A RISING COLLEGE FRESHMAN AND I'M TAKING A GAP YEAR AT BAR LA, WHICH IS A COLLEGE IN ISRAEL.

AND THEN AFTER THAT I WILL BE ATTENDING ELON UNIVERSITY, WHICH IS IN NORTH CAROLINA.

AND IF YOU COULD SAY WHAT HIGH SCHOOL, IF YOU'RE A RISING COLLEGE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I JUST GRADUATED FROM ARDSLEY HIGH SCHOOL.

VERY GOOD.

AND YEAH, AND I DID TOO.

VERY GOOD.

UM, I'M STEPHANIE KORNBERG.

I'M A GRADUATING STUDENT FROM EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL, AND I WILL BE ATTENDING TEMPLE UNIVERSITY IN THE FALL.

OH, JUSTIN, YOU'RE REPRESENTING YEAH.

.

UM, AND I'M JEREMY ADLER.

I WA WAS A GRADUATING STUDENT FROM ARTLEY HIGH SCHOOL AND I'M GONNA BE A RISING FRESHMAN AT LAFAYETTE.

OH, CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

SO, SO COULD YOU TELL US WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING? YEAH.

SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THIS PAST WEEK, ALMOST WEEK AND A HALF NOW.

UM, SO WE STARTED ON MONDAY.

UH, CURRENTLY WE JUST DID A BABY FORMULA, SOME RESEARCH ON THE BABY FORMULA CRISIS.

UH, WE SPOKE TO A PEDIATRICIAN AND HAD AN INTERVIEW WITH HER AND WE ALSO MADE A SLIDESHOW THAT WE WERE GONNA PRESENT TODAY, UH, PRESENTED NEXT WEEK, BUT WE DID A BUNCH OF RESEARCH ON THAT AND JUST TRYING TO FIND MORE INFORMATION ON THE CRISIS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

UH, ONE PROJECT THAT WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING ON THAT I WORKED ON SPECIFICALLY WAS THE POLLINATOR GARDENS IN, UH, GREENBURG.

AND WE WORKED

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AT, UH, ANTHONY VETERAN PARK AND AT THE HARTSBURG.

AND, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO NEED VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT.

SO, UM, PLEASE CONTACT US IN THE ARDSLEY POLLINATOR GARDEN AS WELL JUST TO, AGAIN, TO CONTACT TO BECOME A VOLUNTEER AND TO WORK WITH THE GARDENS AND HELP 'EM OUT.

WE HAVE ALSO INTERVIEWED TWO DOCTORS VIA ZOOM FOR THE BABY FORMULA ISSUE.

COULD MICRO MIC, UH, WE'VE ALSO WAIT.

YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE ON.

GOOD.

OKAY.

YEAH.

WE'VE ALSO TRIED TO, UH, PLAN THE GREENBURG TOWN, UH, FARMER'S MARKET.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIND, UH, VENDORS AND TRY TO COME UP WITH IDEAS FOR IT.

UM, SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT THEY DID NORMALLY WOULD'VE COST US LIKE $300,000 IN CONSULTANT FEES AND THEY DID IT FOR FREE.

SO WE SAVED A LOT OF MONEY.

UM, AND WE GOT FANTASTIC QUALITY.

RIGHT? YES.

YEAH.

THE FARMER'S MARKET WILL BE JUNE 16TH YEAH.

AT THE TOWN HALL.

YES.

YEAH.

SO WILL YOU HAVE, UM, ARE YOU EXPECTING TO HAVE BABY FORMULA AT THE FARMER'S MARKET? I'M JUST TRYING TO, WE HAVE A BOX CURRENTLY RIGHT OUTSIDE WITH BABY FORMULA THAT PEOPLE, WHY DON'T YOU TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT? ALL RIGHT.

UH, WE HAVE A BOX CURRENTLY OUTSIDE WHERE THE BABY FORMULA.

UH, IF YOU HAVE EXTRA, IF YOU HAVE, UM, UM, ONES THAT ARE, UH, DONATED TO YOU THAT YOU DO NOT NEED, UM, WE HAVE A BOX HERE AT TOWN HALL THAT YOU CAN DROP OFF EXTRA BABY FORMULA FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED.

AND WE WILL HAVE THE SAME BOX AT THE FARMER'S MARKET.

AND, UM, MORE WAYS TO GET BABY FORMULA AND HOW TO GET FORMULA TO YOU AND WHAT WAYS ARE EASIER.

AND, UH, KIND OF HOW TO ACCESS IT ON OPEN CONTAINERS.

ON OPEN CONTAINERS.

YEAH.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO, TO OUR LISTENING AND VIEWING AUDIENCE, IF YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OF MUSICIANS, UH, EITHER SOLOS OR TRIOS OR, UM, UH, BANDS, PLEASE INFORM PAUL FINER AND THEN HE WILL SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH OUR STUDENT INTERNS HERE AND TOGETHER WE WILL, WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO CONTACT THOSE MUSICIANS AND BRING THEM HERE FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET.

THE FARMER'S MARKET WILL RUN EVERY THURSDAY, STARTING JUNE 16TH THROUGH NOVEMBER 22ND.

AND WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND MUSIC.

PLEASE CONTACT THE INTERNS THROUGH PAUL FINER.

GREAT.

SO THANK YOU.

SO NEXT WEEK WE'LL HAVE A MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE'RE PRESSED FOR TIME.

YES.

WE ARE NOT SEEING THIS SLIDESHOW TODAY, BUT WE'LL SEE IT, UM, NEXT WEEK.

YES.

TERRIFIC.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME, GUYS.

THANK YOU.

MS. SUV.

HERE, YOU, ME, MS. UBER.

UH, GOOD.

SO WE, THIS IS A FOLLOW UP, UM, TO, UM, OUR DISCUSSION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

UM, I'M BACK ABOUT ANDRE LEON ON TALLEY STREET SIGNED COMMITTEE.

AND COULD YOU JUST GIVE US, UH, YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND, UM, OKAY, PERFECT.

THIS IS, HELLO EVERYBODY.

HELLO.

NOW.

IT'S BEEN A MONTH AND A WEEK.

I DID WHAT Y'ALL SAID.

WAIT TILL A MONTH AND A WEEK.

.

IT ME THAT Y'ALL TOOK ME OFF THE AJOUR, BUT IT'S ALL GOOD.

'CAUSE I'M GONNA FIGHT UNTIL, UNTIL YOU GUYS MAKE A DECISION.

WE GOING TO WORK ON THIS AND WE GOING ON THIS AND WE GOING TO DO IT TOGETHER.

NOW, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY GOT A LETTER THAT I SENT OUT.

YOU DID.

YOU EMAILED IT.

OH, STILL.

I'M GLAD YOU DID.

BUT THE FACT IS THAT WHAT I DID, I DROVE AROUND FROM DIFFERENT AREAS TO SEE 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HEAR NOTHING TOO MUCH FROM THE SCHOOL.

SO I WENT TO THE SCHOOL AND I WENT ON CENTRAL AVENUE AND I WENT TO A, UM, A COUPLE OTHER PLACES MM-HMM.

THAT I FELT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE FOR THE BOARD TO SEE AND TO KNOW ABOUT.

NOW I BROUGHT IT TO PAUL ATTENTION AND I ASKED PAUL TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD ATTENTION BECAUSE I'M WORKING WITH THE BOARD.

I WANT EVERYBODY TO AGREE.

IF YOU FEEL THAT IT'S NOT CORRECTLY, BE A FRONT WITH ME.

DO NOT GO BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE IT IS, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ONLY A SIGN THAT WE GIVE IT TO A GREAT MAN THAT LEFT, THAT DID

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WONDERFUL THINGS FOR US.

AND IF YOU FEEL SOMETHING IS WRONG, SPEAK ON IT.

DON'T GO BACK AND FORTH.

LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO BE GOING BACK AND FORTH.

WE GONNA DO IT OR WE NOT GONNA DO IT.

WE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT AND WE GONNA DO IT IN A RESPECT.

WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE HAPPY.

I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE HAPPY ABOUT THIS.

WE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE, WE WROTE IN, WE GOT THE AKS, WE GOT THE DELTAS, WE GOT SO MANY, WE GOT PEOPLE THAT'S SAYING, WE GOING TO DO THIS, BUT WE ALL GOT TO WORK TOGETHER.

WE DON'T WANT NOBODY, UH, FUSSING.

WE DON'T WANT NOBODY GOING AT EACH OTHER BECAUSE LIFE IS TOO SHORT.

SO WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION? THE RECOMMENDATION IS WHAT I TOLD YOU.

WHAT YOU FAILED.

READY? TELL.

NO, I'M JUST SAYING YOU WANT TO, YOU COULD PRESENT IT.

DID I MAKE COPIES OF NO, I THINK I DID.

EVERYBODY SAW THE LETTER, RIGHT? YEAH, I EMAILED EVERYBODY.

SO WHAT DID, DID EVERYBODY READ THE LETTER? I, I DON'T RECALL.

YOU DON'T.

WELL LET, LET'S PASS THIS OUT.

THE LETTER RECOMME.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND THEN YOU JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU FEEL.

SIGN THAT WEB WE PARK, IT WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE TO THE WEB PARK PARKING LOT.

YOU DON LOOK YOU.

AND BASICALLY, UH, ANDRE, UM, SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON CENTRAL AVENUE AT, UH, AT, AT CITY LIMITS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN, IN WHITE PLAINS.

AND WE THOUGHT THAT, UH, THIS COULD BE SORT OF A CONNECTION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A SCHOOL RIGHT NEAR THE WEB, YOU KNOW, UH, THE WEB MM-HMM.

, UH, YOU KNOW, FIELD.

UM, AND IT COULD BE INSPIRATIONAL FOR STUDENTS.

YES.

UH, WE COULD EVENTUALLY SET UP A SCHOLARSHIP, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IN, IN HIS NAME FOR STUDENTS WHO WANT TO GO INTO FASHION, FASHION OR, UH, OR JOURNALISM.

SO, SO, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT HAVING AN HONORARY SIGN, UM, A STREET, YOU KNOW, SIGN, IS THAT THIS IS NOT ON A STREET.

SO THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT REAL RIGHT.

ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

SO NOBODY IN THE COMMUNITY'S GONNA REALLY OBJECT TO THIS.

THERE'S GONNA BE ZERO CONTROVERSY, BUT AGAIN, THE PLUSES ARE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, UH, YOU'RE HONORING, UH, A WORLD FAMOUS, UH, LEADER WHO WAS RESPECTED, WHO HAPPENED TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

HE'S AN ICON.

UM, YOU KNOW, HE BASICALLY SHOULD BE REMEMBERED.

I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN HONOR TO GREENBERG THAT YES, HE CHOSE, OF ALL THE PLACES HE COULD HAVE LIVED IN, LIVED AT GREENBERG AS HIS, AS HIS HOME.

YES.

UM, WE COULD, UH, INSPIRE STUDENTS, UM, TO, UM, UH, TO GO INTO THE SAME, YOU KNOW, FIELD.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, HE DID SPEAK TO THE GREENBERG STUDENT INTERNS.

JUDITH ARRANGED THAT, YOU KNOW, HE, HE WAS SITTING RIGHT OVER HERE AND PROBABLY ON THIS, IN THIS TABLE MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO HE CAME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL THAT, UM, THERE'S SO MANY PLUSES TO DOING THIS AND A LOT WHEN HE WAS HERE, I'M QUITE SURE SOME OF THE BOARD PEOPLE WAS HERE TO MEET HIM.

RIGHT.

NO, BUT WHAT WAS MORE, BUT WHAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT OR OR EQUAL IMPORTANT, UM, WAS THAT HE WAS HERE AS A SPEAKER, UH, AT THE, UH, SUMMER TOWN HALL MM-HMM.

INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.

MM-HMM.

, WHICH THE, THE BOARD STANDS BEHIND.

AND, UM, HIS MESSAGE TO THE CHILDREN MM-HMM.

IS FOLLOW YOUR PASSIONS.

YES.

AND NEVER GIVE UP.

AND, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE WROTE THAT THAT'S IN WRITING.

AND, UM, UH, THAT WAS WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT HIS VISIT TO EACH PERSON THAT GOT THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW? YES.

YES.

SO, PAUL, THIS REALLY SHOULD, THIS IS NOT A, SHOULD NOT BE A MATTER OF, OF CONTROVERSY BECAUSE THIS WAS A WORLD RENOWNED, UM, UH, ICONIC FIGURE, UH, ANDRE LEON TALLEY.

AND I CANNOT IMAGINE ANYONE IN OUR TOWN OBJECTING TO, UH, A COMMEMORATIVE STREET NAME.

UM, REGARDLESS AS TO WHERE IT IS, WHETHER IT'S ON WORTHINGTON ROAD OR ON THE CURRENTLY UNNAMED ROAD THAT'S LEADING UP TOWARDS, UM, HYVEE SCHOOL OFF OF CENTRAL AVENUE.

YEP.

UM, IN EITHER PLACE IT WOULD HAVE A STRONG SIGNIFICANCE CONNECTING US TO ANDRE LEON TALLEY'S LEGACY AND MEMORY.

AND ALSO THERE'S SOME WORLD FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING A DEDICATION.

OH, YEAH, DEFINITELY.

SO THE THING IS, UH, THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY OF PUTTING GREENBERG ON THE MAP.

YES.

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IT'S, WE'RE BASICALLY HIGHLIGHTING THAT A GREAT MAN, UH, DECIDED TO LIVE IN, YOU KNOW, GREENBURG.

UH, THEY COULD VISIT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG, UM, DURING A DEDICATION YES.

THEY'LL BECOME FAMILIAR.

AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTIONS COULD, UM, EVENTUALLY LEAD TO, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT LEAD TO ANYTHING, BUT IT ALSO MAY LEAD TO SOMETHING YOU NEVER KNOW.

BUT IT'S GONNA LEAD TO SOMETHING BECAUSE ON APRIL THE 29TH CABIN BOOKS, EVERYBODY CAME OUT.

I EVEN MIND FACT I INVITED JUDY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS A LATE CALL WHEN I GOT THE PHONE CALL.

RIGHT.

THEY HAD ALL KIND, EVERY MOVIE STAR, KEVIN BUCK, THEY DID HIS MEMORIAL AND IT AT THE ABIAN BAPTIST CHAIR YES.

FOR THE 29TH AND EVERYTHING.

AND IT WAS REMARKABLE.

I WAS, YOU KNOW, WAS INVITED AND EVERYTHING, JUDY AND EVERYBODY, WE WAS ALL INVITED.

BUT I LET THEM KNOW THAT THE COMMITTEE HERE MM-HMM.

, THIS IS WHAT I TALKED ABOUT GREENBERG, I LET THEM KNOW ALL OF YOU GUYS WAS ON POINT THAT Y'ALL RESPECTED WHAT WAS GOING ON.

Y'ALL RESPECTED THIS MAN.

THAT WAS A ICON.

BECAUSE ONE THING I DID NOT WANT THEM TO THINK THAT GREENBERG, THEY HAD, WHEN I DID THE BIG CEREMONY, THEY COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT GREENBERG WAS NOT THERE.

MOST OF THE GREEN BIRD WAS THERE, BUT WE WERE NOT INVITED.

WE DIDN'T GET AN INVITATION.

WELL, THAT'S JUST CORRECT THE RECORD.

OKAY.

NOT THAT WE DIDN'T INVITED.

DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK HE MEANT, MEANT IT THAT WAY.

WELL, I DON'T MEAN IT THAT WAY BECAUSE, UH, I DON'T MEAN IT THAT WAY, BUT THE NUMBER ONE THING I WANT TO JUST LET YOU KNOW, WHEN I, PEOPLE DO BRING IT TO MY ATTENTION THAT IT'S VERY NICE BECAUSE WHEN THEY GO INTO CITY LIMIT AND YOU KNOW, PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME TO GO INTO CITY LIMIT AND SEE THE BEAUTIFUL UP THERE, THE PLANT SEEN IT AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

PEOPLE GO OVER THERE AND KISS IT.

PEOPLE GO, PEOPLE STOP ME AND THEY SAY A JOB WELL DONE.

I RUN HOME.

YOU, YOU'D BE SURPRISED OF THE LITTLE KIDS COME TO ME, THE GIRLS AND I RUN HOME TO READ UP ON HIM.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION THEY REALLY NEED, BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, MOVIE ACTORS AND ACTRESSES WHO MAY WANNA COME, THEY NEED ADVANCE, ADVANCE, YOU KNOW, NOTICE.

RIGHT.

SO THE THING IS, DOES THE BOARD WANT TO REFLECT ON IT? DO WE WANNA PUT A A TIME WHEN WE COULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE A DECISION IF YOU'RE NOT DOING IT, YOU KNOW, TODAY? UM, YOU KNOW, AND COULD WE, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANNA MOVE THIS QUICKLY BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY.

I WANT THE BOARD TO BE THERE.

SO WHEN YOU CAME IN, INITIALLY YOU ASKED FOR A STREET SIGN, WHICH IS TOTALLY, TOTALLY APPROPRIATE.

AND YOU ASKED FOR IT TO BE BY WHERE HE LIVED ON WORTHINGTON ROAD, WHICH IS TOTALLY, TOTALLY APPROPRIATE AND MATCHES ALL OF THE OTHER STREET SIGNS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN, WE COULD DO THAT THE PAST.

WE DON'T CARE.

WE DON'T CARE.

I JUST SAID, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT I DID, THE SUPERVISOR DECIDED, YOU KNOW, LET'S LOOK AT DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.

OKAY.

AND IF WE COULD GET THE SCHOOLS IN ON BOARD, THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE MUCH OF, A MUCH OF AN INTEREST, YOU SAID.

UM, BUT IN KEEPING WITH WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST MM-HMM.

AND I CAN CITE THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WE HAVE DONE.

ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE PUT UP A SIGN, IT'S WHERE THEY LIVE.

OH.

IT'S NOT WHERE SOMEBODY MIGHT PASS AND SEE IT AND SAY, OH, THAT'S A GREAT MAN.

IT'S, IT GIVES 'EM YEAH.

HISTORICAL MEANING TO BEING IN THAT AREA.

YOU ARE WHERE THIS PERSON WAS, SO THEN LET'S DO TON ROAD.

WELL, I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE A PROBLEM THERE.

THAT'S NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S HOW I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE WHAT IT WAS TOLD TO US PROBLEM, HAVEN'T AN ISSUE TOLD THAT THERE ASKED.

RIGHT.

WE TOLD IF THERE WAS ANY PUSHBACK.

IT WASN'T, LEMME ALSO GO ON TO SAY WITH WORTHINGTON ROAD IS CONSIDERED IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, A HEAVILY USED ROAD.

OKAY.

WHICH MEANS THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING BY THERE.

NOW.

IT'S NOT CENTRAL AVENUE TRAFFIC FOR SURE.

OKAY.

BUT IT'S ONE OF THE TWO DOZEN OR SO TO VERY HEAVILY USED ROADS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

SO PEOPLE WILL SEE IT.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

AND FURTHER, AND THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE.

PEOPLE WILL BE TRAVELING SOMEWHERE SLOWLY ROAD, BUT WHERE HE LIVES AT, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BLOCK THAT ROAD.

IF WE'RE GONNA DO A DEDICATION OR SO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE, WE, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

WE HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'M JUST MAKING WE MAKING A NOTE.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY, WE DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE PROPER, PROPER PERSONNEL IN PLACE.

MM-HMM.

.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO THEN WE HAD AN UNVEILING OF A SIGN, AN ENTRANCE SIGN TO GREENBURG, AND WE SHUT DOWN A MAJOR ROAD IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

SO IT'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUT OF THE QUESTION.

UH, NO ONE'S GONNA GET A TICKET BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA SHUT IT DOWN .

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SO THERE'S NEVER, SO THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE WITH PUTTING UP A SIGN.

IT'S, IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE DEVIATE FROM OUR PAST PRACTICE.

OKAY.

UH, AND IT'S ACTUALLY, YOU CAME IN WITH THE APPROPRIATE PLACE.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND I KNOW YOU DID A LOT OF RESEARCH AND LOOKING AROUND AND ALL THAT.

WELL, BECAUSE SEE WHAT I GOT THE APPROPRIATE PLACES.

I GOT SOME, I GOT SOME INFORMATION THAT GOT BACK WAS WRONG BECAUSE THEY NO, IT'S FINE.

SO WE REACHED THE, SO WE REACHED THE CONSENSUS.

SO THE ISSUE IS CAN WE, AT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING, NOT TOMORROW, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE JUNE 8TH MEETING, UM, UH, PUT A RESOLUTION, UH, STATING THAT, UH, UH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE HONORARY STREET NAMING, AUTHORIZING THE HONORARY STREET NAMING, UM, UH, FOR ANDRE.

AND WE PUT IT ON THE JUNE 8TH MEETING, AND THEN, THEN WE WOULD FORMALLY VOTE ON IT THEN JUST IN TERMS OF LOGISTICS, RIGHT.

'CAUSE I SEE YOUR FACE THAT WE CAN'T AT THE LAST MINUTE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT NIGHT'S.

AND OUR NEXT MEETING WON'T BE FOR TWO WEEKS.

IT'LL BE THE VERY NEXT MEETING.

BECAUSE YOU WANT PEOPLE TO SEE IT WHEN IT GOES OUT ONTO THE WEB AND PEOPLE SEE IT FOR THE MEETING.

IF WE PUT IT ON THE LAST MINUTE, PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CONTROVERSY IS THIS IS FANTASTIC.

AND WE DON'T DO THAT FOR, WE DON'T DO THAT FOR ANY REASON.

SO THIS IS FANTASTIC.

SO THEN IF IT'S, IT'S OKAY, I JUST WANT TO, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THE COMMEMORATIVE STREET SIGN, I, I JUST WANT TO, EXCUSE ME, CONFIRM SIGN AS AS IT IS WHERE YOU IDEALLY WANTED IT.

I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THERE'S GONNA BE AT THE, AT THE INTERSECTION.

IT'S OKAY.

IT'S OKAY.

IT'S ALRIGHT.

UH, SHE'S SO HAPPY BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE IT WAS SHE INTENDED FOR IT TO BE.

BUT BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS CONVERSATION, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE INTERSECTION OF WORTHINGTON ROAD AND DOBBS FERRY ROAD HERE.

OKAY.

IS IS THAT WHERE HE LIVED? NO, HE LIVED, HE LIVED ON THE OTHER SIDE.

OKAY.

WHY DON'T WE, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

WHY DON'T WE DO, WHY DON'T WE DO A SITE THAT IS GONNA TELL US WHERE IT WAS, TELL YOU WHERE IT IS, WHERE IT, OKAY.

COME DOWN, DOWN STORY ROAD.

YOU MAKE A RIGHT BY THE FIRE STATION THERE.

RIGHT? YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END, RIGHT? AND THEN ALL, ALMOST WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE NEXT BEAUTIFUL HOUSE ROAD, THAT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT THE INTERSECTION MM-HMM.

, IT'S JUST BEFORE THAT.

IT STARTS TO WHINE LIKE A S IT'S RIGHT THERE.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE A MEETING AT THAT SITE? THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A HIGH, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A MEETING THAT SIZE? I THINK SO.

EXCUSE ME AS LYNN AND, AND MONTY, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IS NOT A HIGH VISIBILITY AREA.

THE HIGH VISIBILITY AREA IS WORTHINGTON AND JOBS FAIR ROAD.

SO IF, IF MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE, ARE SAYING, ARE SAYING INSTEAD OF CENTRAL AVENUE, WHICH IS ALSO A HIGH VISIBILITY AREA, WORTHINGTON ROAD, WHICH IS ANOTHER HIGH VISIBILITY AREA.

THE HIGH VISIBILITY AREA OF WORTHINGTON ROAD IS AT DOBBS BURY ROAD.

IT IS NOT WHERE IT WINDS INTO THAT COMMUNITY.

WELL, WE COULD DO, WE COULD DO ONE END END.

WE COULD TWO SIGNS ON BOTH END.

BOTH ENDS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE IT'S WHERE HE IT'S WHERE HE LIVES.

IT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE EXACTLY.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE.

EXACTLY.

EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE EXACTLY WHERE HE LIVED.

WE PLACED A COMM.

THERE WAS A COMMEMORATIVE SIGN.

NO ONE SAID THAT.

I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING THAT SAYING NO, I SAYING THAT.

NO ONE'S SAYING THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT.

WELL, JUST LET ME FINISH MY POINT.

OKAY.

THAT YOU, WE HAVE A HIGH VISIBILITY SIGN HERE.

ATLANTIC STAR.

IT'S ON OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD, BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A COMMEMORATIVE STREET SIGN FOR, UM, UH, DR.

OLIVIA J H****R UP ON JUNIPER HILL ROAD, BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE.

MY ONLY POINT TO YOU IS THAT IF YOU ARE, IF YOU WANT THIS TO BE PLACED IN A, UH, HIGH VISIBILITY AREA, THE HIGH VISIBILITY AREA ON WORTHINGTON ROAD IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF DOVES FAIR ROAD AND WORTHINGTON.

IT IS NOT EMBEDDED DEEP INTO THE, INTO THE AREA WHERE HE LIVES.

BUT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO YOU.

YOU KNOW, LIKE, LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING.

WE'LL, WE'LL USE IN DETAIL.

WE'LL WORK IT OUT.

WE'LL WORK IT OUT JUST OKAY.

JUST TO KNOW EVERYBODY.

WE ARE ALL MEET AND WE'LL GO OVER THERE.

OKAY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A PROP FOR PAUL FOR ALL US GO OVER THERE.

MM-HMM.

, BECAUSE WE

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WERE, I WENT THERE, I WENT OVER TOWARDS WHERE HIS HOUSE AT.

I WENT TOWARDS THE HOUSE.

MM-HMM.

THE HOUSE.

THE HOUSE IS ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK.

SO LET ALL US, LIKE YOU SAID, LET ALL US MEET.

AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT.

GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN WHAT WE COULD, WE COULD DO ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER SIDE.

YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT DON'T MATTER WHAT SIDE.

ALL I WANT IS JUST A BEAUTIFUL SIDE.

THAT'S FINE.

I DON'T CARE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T CARE THE WAY SIGN.

I DID COME THERE, BUT LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, AS LONG AS WE GET THE SIGN, BECAUSE EVERYBODY GONNA BE HAPPY THAT WE DID IT.

AND I LIKE TO DO IT BECAUSE I LIKE TO HAVE ALL THE PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THE BOARD GOING TO BE THERE.

I SAID SOMEWHERE IN SEPTEMBER, RIGHT.

'CAUSE I KNOW OF VACATION TIME AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I COULD BE ABLE TO GET ALL THE INVITATIONS OUT TO ALL THESE ENTERTAINERS AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? MM-HMM.

.

AND WHAT MY THING IS THAT WE ALL GONNA LEAVE THERE AND GO BACK TO CITY LIMIT.

OH WOW.

WHERE EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE.

I ALREADY GOT IT SET UP ALL, I JUST GOT TO GET THE INVITATIONS OUT TO MAKE SURE I LET THEM KNOW.

'CAUSE I WANT THE BOARDS TO BE THERE, EVERYBODY TO BE THERE THAT WORKED ON THIS.

YOU SAID IT WAS 75? WERE THEY? HUH? WAS IT 75 WORTHINGTON? 75.

THAT'S THE ACTUAL ADDRESS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THIS, SO WE GOTTA WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT A TIME AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT A DATE SO WE CAN ALL MEET.

OKAY.

NOW DO I HAVE TO EMAIL YOU GUYS WITH THE TIME? YOU CAN EMAIL ME.

I'LL EMAIL THE BOARD.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

EMAIL.

AND IF YOU COULD EMAIL US WITH YOUR PHONE NUMBER AS WELL, WHY IT WAS AN ISSUE.

WE ALL JUST MEET, WE'LL WORK OUT AND WE ALL JUST MEET OVER THERE.

WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO IT IN TWO WEEKS OR ONE WEEK? WHATEVER YOU WANT.

WHATEVER I WANT.

WE JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT, WE SEND, DON'T WE DO IT ON ONE WEEK? BECAUSE THEN IT ON THE AGENDA THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

LET'S JUST MOVE THE AGENDA ALONG.

UH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

UM, WE HAVE, UM, PETE, DO YOU HAVE A LOT? NO, HAVE TWO.

AND THEN GARY, I ONLY HAVE TWO.

OKAY.

GARY, THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO, UH, VIEW THIS.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING A PRINTOUT.

THIS IS GREAT.

UM, HAVE ONE LINE, 2, 2, 2 LARGE REQUISITIONS THAT WERE IN QUESTION.

UH, BOTH CAME FROM THE LIBRARY AND I HAVE SINCE TALKED TO CHRISTINA, OUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR, AND WE'VE CLARIFIED THE $8,000 THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE FIRST ONE.

UH, FOR BOOKS.

THEY'VE ALWAYS DEALT WITH BAYLOR, UH, AND TAYLOR AND PURCHASED THEIR BOOKS.

I DID NOT REALIZE OR KNOW THAT THEY HAD A CONTRACT.

AND THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS, THEY ORDER THE BOOKS AND THEY DON'T INVOICE FOR EACH BOOK SEPARATELY.

THEY WAIT FOR A NUMBER OF BOOKS AND THEN THEY INVOICE.

AND THAT'S WHY THE $8,000 CAME OUT.

NORMALLY, UH, IT'S 1,520, UH, $1,800.

BUT WHEN I SAW 8,000, I SAID, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG, WHICH THERE ISN'T.

UH, DO WE KNOW THE PERIOD OF TIME OVER WHICH THEY ORDERED BOOKS? YEAH.

FOR $8,000? YEAH.

HOW LONG OF A PERIOD OF TIME WAS? UH, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY ABOUT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, UM, THEY DON'T, LIKE I SAID, THEY TAYLOR, UM, BAYLOR AND TAYLOR DON'T INVOICE.

MM-HMM.

I UNDERSTAND.

EVERY WEEK OR EVERY MONTH.

I UNDERSTAND.

UH, THE SECOND ONE IS FOR DESKS AND CHAIRS.

UH, THEY'RE REMODELING THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, FROM WHAT CHRISTINA SAID.

AND, UH, THEY WANT TO PURCHASE NEW DESKS TO REPLACE THE OLD ONES THAT ARE THERE, UH, AND MAKE THE ROOM A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCESSIBLE TO MORE PEOPLE.

UM, THEY DID DO THEIR, UH, DUE DILIGENCE.

THEY GOT THEIR THREE PRICES.

UM, THEY, UM, I HAVE IT ON THIS PARTICULAR SPREADSHEET BECAUSE I DID REJECT IT ORIGINALLY BECAUSE ON THE REQUISITION THEY DID NOT INCLUDE THE THREE PRICES.

SO I TALKED TO CHRISTINA TODAY AND I TOLD HER I REJECTED IT.

AND ONCE THEY CAN GET THEIR THREE PRICES, WHICH THEY GIVE YOU THE BACKUP DONE ALREADY, THEY CAN ADD IT TO THE REQUISITION AND THEN GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS AGAIN.

OKAY.

UM, I HAVE TO RE IF THERE'S, IF THEY WANT TO ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO A REQUISITION, I HAVE TO REJECT THE REQUISITION FIRST.

MM-HMM.

, SO IT GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINATOR AND THEY CAN ADD OR SUBTRACT FROM THAT REQUISITION AS REQUESTED BY ME OR THEM.

AND THEN THAT GOES THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS AGAIN, IT GOES TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD, THEN IT COMES TO ME FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY.

FINE.

THE LIBRARY IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY UNDER STATE LAW THAN OTHER DEPARTMENTS

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BECAUSE THEY BASICALLY GET A BUDGET AND THEY COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANT ACCORDING TO STATE LAW.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS PROBLEM IN THE PAST, AND SO THE TOWN DOESN'T REALLY HAVE CONTROL OVER ANYTHING THAT THEY DO, SO COULD MOVE THINGS AROUND.

SO TO YOUR POINT, PAUL, SO WHY DID YOU COME TO US FOR THIS? IF WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THERE, BUT I JUST NEED TO CLARIFY.

WE CAN ENCOURAGE THEM, BUT WE, WE CAN'T.

THEY, SO THIS IS JUST, SO THIS IS FYI.

THERE, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH THE LIBRARY, UH, AND THINGS THAT WE CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE UNDER STATE LAW.

UM, THE PURCHASE OF OFFICE EQUIPMENT.

YES.

OKAY.

THAT COMES UNDER OUR POLICY.

AND, UH, IF THEY'RE GONNA SPEND OVER $2,000, I CAN REQUEST THREE PRICES.

RIGHT.

OR IF THEY AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT, WE CAN ACTUALLY ASK THEM TO GO OUT TO BID.

UH, BUT THEIR BOOKS, UH, THEIR INTERNET, UH, ALL OF THAT COMES UNDER NEW YORK STATE OR FEDERAL GRANTS.

SO.

OKAY, PERFECT.

SO THEN, SO WHEN IT, IT IS A LITTLE, IT IS CONFUSING AFTER TALKING TO CHRISTINA, UH, I I THINK I'M MORE CONFUSED THAN EVER.

OH.

BUT, UH, SHE'S GOT IT PRETTY WELL UNDER CONTROL.

SO IN THE FUTURE, THIS BOOKS WOULD NOT FALL UNDER THIS AGAIN.

SO WE, THE ONLY CORRECT, THE ONLY THING WE WOULD SEE NOW GOING FORWARD IS JUST OFFICE EQUIPMENT.

OFFICE EQUIPMENT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I JUST NEED TO, OKAY.

YEP.

SO WE'RE ALL BOOKS.

THEY, THEY HAVE A BUDGET THAT THEY CAN BUY X AMOUNT.

I FORGET WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS.

UH, BUT THEY HAVE THAT AND IT'S BASICALLY CARTE BLANC AS FAR AS WHAT BOOKS AND, AND, UH, CDS AND MUSIC THAT THEY CAN GET.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, GARY.

THANKS PETE.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THANK YOU, PETE.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

OKAY.

YOU TAKE YOU TOO, PETE.

IT'S VERY SHORT.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY, BRIAN.

BRIAN'S ITEM RATHER SHORT, IF YOU WANNA TAKE A BREAK.

NO PROBLEM.

BRIAN, COME ON.

DON'T BE SHY.

I'LL SAY NO TO YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

HI BRIAN.

HOW EVERYONE OH GOOD.

HOW ARE DOING? GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, THANK YOU.

UM, THE VOICE ISN'T WORKING ON, ON ZOOM, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE.

IT'S WORKING ON THE WEBSITE, BUT IT'S NOT WORKING ON THE ZOOM LINK.

YEAH.

UH, GEORGE, I DON'T THINK YOU'VE ACTIVATED THE ZOOM BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE VIDEO FROM THE STUDIO EITHER.

GREAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

IT'S JOHN KENNEDY.

UH, FOR ANYONE THAT'S NOT AWARE, MY NAME IS BRIAN SIMMONS, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

UM, SO I'M JUST HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON BABBITT COURT AND THE APPLICATION.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO JUST SO, UH, TO GIVE EVERYONE KIND OF REFRESHER, SO, UH, FEMA, UM, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE A HAZARD MITIGATION PROGRAM WHERE THEY PROVIDE FUNDING THROUGH GRANTS FOR, UH, STATE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR, UM, VARIOUS MITIGATION MEASURES.

IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE FOR FLOOD MITIGATION.

UH, THAT'S ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE, THE STATES ON THIS CASE, IT'S THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.

UH, SINCE OUR LAST DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.

THE LAST TOWN BOARD MEETING, UM, THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED OF A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING AN APPLICATION, UM, TO NEW YORK STATE, AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING, UM, THE SERVICES OF CLAPPER ENGINEERING.

UM, CLAPPER ENGINEERING IS A STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING FIRM.

THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BABBITT COURT AREA.

THEY ACTUALLY WERE, UH, WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH SOME OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY HAVE INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE AS FAR AS THE, THE SCOPE OF WORK, WHAT GOES INVOLVED, IT'S, IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS WHEN IT COMES TO ELEVATING STRUCTURES.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT'S DEPENDING UPON THE TYPE OF FOUNDATION THERE IS, UH, THE LOCATION WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN, UH, ANY SORT OF UTILITIES THAT ARE THERE.

SO IT, IT CAN GET FAIRLY COMPLICATED VERY QUICKLY.

UM, AND PART OF THIS APPLICATION, FEMA WANTS A VERY DETAILED COST ESTIMATE.

THEY WANT A VERY DETAILED SCHEDULE OF WORK SO THAT THEY CAN KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY THEY NEED TO ALLOCATE TO THIS PROJECT.

UM, SO SINCE CLAPPER ENGINEERING HAS BEEN RETAINED, THEY'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH US AS WELL AS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO OBTAIN THIS INFORMATION.

UM, THEY ARE ANTICIPATING PROVIDING US WITH THAT, UM, CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE, UM, AS WELL AS THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE BY FRIDAY, MAY 27TH, WHICH IS THIS FRIDAY CLOSE.

AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE APPLICATION IS DUE JUNE 1ST, SO IT'S A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE.

I SPOKE TO, UM, BRIAN CLAPPER, UM, FROM CLAPPER ENGINEERING ON FRIDAY.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, HE'S STILL ON SCHEDULE.

WE ARE HOPING THAT THAT STAYS IN PLACE.

UM, ASSUMING IT DOES, WE SHOULD.

IT GIVES US BASICALLY THE WEEKEND AND BE IN NEXT WEEK TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION,

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FINALIZE IT, PUT IT IN THE APPLICATION, AND THEN MAKE A FORMAL SUBMISSION TO THE, THE STATE.

UM, WE DID, UM, MAKE A PRELIMINARY SUBMISSION TO THE STATE BACK ON, UH, MAY 16TH, LAST MONDAY.

UM, WE WANTED TO GET THEM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE SO THAT THEY CAN REVIEW IT.

PRELIMINARILY, THEY CAN PROVIDE US WITH ANY FEEDBACK.

WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM AS OF YET.

UM, BUT LIKE I MENTIONED, WE JUST WANTED TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO THEM SO THAT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE'RE MISSING OR, UM, ANY SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION THAT'S REQUIRED.

SO IS THERE ANYTHING YOU THINK WE COULD BE DOING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING? I DON'T THINK SO.

NOT AT THIS TIME.

IT, IT WAS A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE.

RIGHT.

UM, CLAP ENGINEERING WAS IN A VERY UNIQUE POSITION.

THAT'S THE FIRM WE RETAINED.

THAT'S THE FIRM WE RETAINED, RIGHT.

BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY WORKING WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, SO THEY ALREADY KNEW THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE THERE.

WE MET OUT ON SITE WITH THEM AS WELL AS A FEW CONTRACTORS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UM, THERE WERE SIX PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE, ULTIMATELY THEY'VE GIVEN US PARTICIPATION WAIVERS.

UM, SO THEY'VE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN THIS, THIS PROJECT.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THOSE SIX PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE THIS APPLICATION ON THEIR BEHALF.

ALRIGHT.

UM, THERE IS AN APPLICATION, JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE, THERE IS A RESOLUTION BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD TOMORROW.

JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A COST SHARE APPLICATION.

SO, UH, ORIGINALLY IT WAS 75%, 25%.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY INCREASED THAT TO 90%, 10%.

SO IT'D BE 90% IS THE FEDERAL SHARE.

10% IS THE LOCAL SLASH NON-FEDERAL SHARE.

UM, THE STATE REQUIRES, THEY WANT SOME SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM BEING THAT WE'RE THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY, WE'RE THE ONES ADMINISTERING THIS GRANT.

THE APPLICA OR THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU TOMORROW IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE IS, THIS IS PART OF A COST SHARE PROGRAM, AND THEN ALSO FURTHER SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION TO THE STATE.

AND TO BE CLEAR, THE 10% IS THE HOMEOWNER, CORRECT? CORRECT.

BUT WE HAVE TO PUT THE MONEY UP FRONT BECAUSE THE FEMA DOESN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE HOMEOWNER.

SO WE PUT UP THE MONEY AND THEN WE EITHER BY LIEN OR WHATEVER, UH, WE GET THE MONEY BACK FROM THE, UH, FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO IT, IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM.

MM-HMM.

RIGHT.

SO THE TOWN, ULTIMATELY, IF THE PROJECT COSTS, AND I'M JUST GOING TO THROW A NUMBER OUT THERE.

IF THE PROJECT COSTS $2 MILLION, THE TOWN WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT FUNDING, UH, ULTIMATELY GO THROUGH WITH CONSTRUCTION, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING THE, UM, THE, THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, AND THEN SEEK REIMBURSEMENT AFTER THAT.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, BRIAN.

THAT WAS A TOUGH ONE, BUT I APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BRIAN HAS BEEN WORKING NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS AND THANK YOU.

LAST ON JUNE.

ON JUNE.

ON JUNE 2ND.

EXACTLY.

I PROMISE YOU.

YES.

BY THE WAY, DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD WANNA RECONSIDER AND YOU HAVE ANY SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT WHETHER NO , DID I BE PROMOTED? I TO SHARE SCREEN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DID.

YOU WROTE DEMAND TODAY.

OH, YOU DIDN'T ACCEPT, OH, GO AHEAD.

TRY.

YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT.

THERE YOU GO.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, SO I'VE GOT, I HAVE SCREEN SHARED AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GEORGE IN THE CONTROL ROOM, WHO HAS TO CHANGE THE VIEW.

LET ME, UH, I AND YOU.

THANK YOU GARY.

OKAY.

GEORGE, CAN YOU, UH, SWAP THE VIEW? CAN YOU UNSHARE FOR A MOMENT? YES.

TERRIFIC.

, YOU SAW THAT, RIGHT? I SAW GEORGE WAS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS.

YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S AMAZING.

NOW YOUR RESOLUTION IS OFF.

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I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

UM, OKAY, GEORGE, LEMME DO IT THIS WAY.

OH, YOUR CAMERA'S NOT ON IT.

I CAN'T SPOTLIGHT SOMEBODY WITHOUT THE CAMERA.

OKAY.

OKAY.

NOW SHE HERE LOOKS LIKE UPSTAIRS.

IS THAT NOT GEORGE? CAN YOU GRAB THE, UM, THE ZOOM FRAME AND THOSE AREN'T ON RIGHT.

SOMETHING ON HIS END.

WHAT ARE WE REALLY WAITING FOR? WHETHER OR NOT GEORGE CAN TAKE NO, BUT I MEAN, CAN GARRETT TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US? THE PUBLIC WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

WELL, LET ME FIND OUT.

THE GRAPHICS ARE IMPORTANT.

, HOPEFULLY WE GET IT IRONED OUT, BUT IF NOT, THEN I'LL, WELL, WE HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF US THERE.

YEAH, I HEAR, BUT THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET ON THE TV CAN'T SEE IT.

THE PEOPLE ON THE TV CAN'T SEE.

KEN.

KENNETH, I, IS THAT YOUR NAME? OKAY.

I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS GOING ON WITH YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

GOT IT.

SAMUEL KEN FRANKLIN, JOURNALIST SAMUEL.

OKAY.

.

OH, THERE WE GO.

GREAT.

ARE YOU READY? IT'S GOOD.

YOU ARE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT ELMWOOD COUNTRY CLUB AND THE, UH, PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THAT PROPERTY.

SO, JUST TO BRIEFLY RECAP, FOLLOWING THE D E I SS DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AND THE F E I SS THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT, THE TOWN BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO PREPARE WHAT'S KNOWN AS FINDING STATEMENT, A FINDING STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF ALTERNATIVE H, WHICH IS DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOUR, UH, OPENING P OR OPENING 11 BY 17, DRAWING THERE.

ALTERNATIVE H, JUST TO RECAP, ENCOMPASSED 113 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

IT RETAINED THE UNDERLYING ZONING.

IT INCLUDED 8.6 ACRE PUBLIC PARK, HAD THREE NEW PROPOSED CURB CUTS, TWO WEST OF THE, THE TRANSMISSION LINE, AND ONE TO THE EAST OF THE TRANSMISSION LINE, AS WELL AS CURB CUTS ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD AND A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE.

SO WE WERE, AS STAFF, WE WERE PREPARING THE FINDING STATEMENT ON YOUR BEHALF.

WE WERE WORKING CLOSELY WITH LABEL THE TOWN'S CONSULTANT.

AND NOT TOO LONG AGO, THE APPLICANT REACHED OUT TO US, UM, AND BROUGHT A, A, AN UPDATED CONCEPT FOR THE SITE, WHICH WHEN, AFTER HEARING THEM OUT, UM, I FELT VERY COMPELLED TO BRING TO YOUR, AT, UH, YOUR ATTENTION THE SECOND DRAWING THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, WHICH IS LABELED AS CONSERVATION SUBDIVISION, PRELIMINARY LAYOUT NUMBER FOUR.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS WALK YOU THROUGH THAT CONCEPT.

YEAH.

WHEN YOU SAY NOT TOO LONG AGO, WHAT'S THE DATE ON THIS PLAN? THIS PLAN WAS ACTUALLY, UM, RECEIVED TODAY, WE SAW NOT TOO LONG AGO TODAY.

NOT TOO LONG AGO TODAY, BUT THE CONCEPT WAS PRESENTED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

OKAY.

WE'RE OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WHAT THE APPLICANT INDICATED TO US AS STAFF IS THAT AFTER ADDITIONAL CONTEMPLATION OF COMMENTS FROM THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, WESTCHESTER COUNTY, UH, THE APPLICANT WANTED TO BRING FORTH AN UPDATED CONCEPT.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE PRODUCT OF, I THINK, REALLY CONTEMPLATING THOSE COMMENTS AND, AND, AND REALLY GOING TO THE DRAWING BOARD, UM, WITH A HARD LOOK.

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AND WHAT YOU HAVE ARE THESE UPDATES.

YOU HAVE A SITE THAT HAS THE SAME CURB CUTS WEST OF THE, OF THE TRANSMISSION LINES.

SO ONE CURB CUT OPPOSITE THE CHELSEA, WHICH WOULD BE FULL MOVEMENT WITH A LEFT TURN LANE IN A RIGHT, IN RIGHT OUT ONLY OPPOSITE WESTCHESTER VIEW LANE.

WHAT YOU HAVE IS ALSO 113 SINGLE DETACHED FAMILY HOMES.

THIS, THIS LAYOUT RETAINS THE UNDERLYING R 30 AND R 20, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS.

AND WHAT THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO DO IS ADD WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT OVERLAY CD OVERLAY.

IT'S BEEN EMPLOYED NUMEROUS TIMES IN THE TOWN, AND MOST RECENTLY WITH RESPECT TO SUBDIVISIONS, IT'S BEEN EMPLOYED WITH SOMETHING KNOWN AS THE CHAUNCEY SUBDIVISION AND THE BLUEBERRY HILL SUBDIVISION.

AND WHAT THE CD OVERLAY DOES IS IT ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY WITH THE UNDERLYING ZONING IN TERMS OF SETBACKS AND LOT SIZES.

AND OTHER BULK, BULK CRITERIA, ALLOWS YOU TO UTILIZE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO NOT OBTAIN EXTRA DENSITY, BUT TO RETAIN ADDITIONAL OPEN SPIKE O O OPEN SPACE AND RETAIN ADDITIONAL NATURAL FEATURES ON THE SITE.

SO THE APPLICANT AND I SHOULD ADD THAT AS PART OF THE PLANNING BOARD'S FINDING STATEMENT, THE PLANNING BOARD INDICATED IF ALTERNATIVE H IS CHOSEN BY THE TOWN BOARD, THE PLANNING BOARD ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THAT THE APPLICANT CONSIDER EMPLOYING THE CD OVERLAY ON THE SITE TO ACHIEVE OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION.

SO THE APPLICANT THEY'VE DONE IS LAID OUT 113 HOMES TO THE WEST OF THE POWER LINES.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE GRAPHIC, AND I, MAYBE I SHOULD TURN THE LIGHT OUT, UM, SO IT SHOWS UP A LITTLE BETTER, IS THE UTILIZATION OF THE CD OVERLAY PRESERVES STEEP SLOPES, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THE GREEN AREA.

AND WHERE YOU SEE THOSE DARK CONTOUR LINES CRUNCHED TOGETHER, YOU SEE 14.2 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE TO THE EAST OF THE POWER LINES.

SO THAT WOULD REPRESENT NO HOMES TO THE EAST OF THE POWER LINES AND A 14.2 ACRE, UM, TRANSFER OF LAND TO THE TOWN FOR OPEN SPACE PARK PURPOSES.

UM, WHEN I INDICATED THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, REFLECTED ON COMMENTS FROM THE NEW YORK STATE, D O T, PART OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE NEW YORK STATE, D O T WERE TO LIMIT CURB CUTS ON ITS STATE ROAD DOBBS FERRY ROAD.

AND THIS PROPOSAL DOES JUST THAT, IT ELIMINATES WHAT WE, UH, HAD UP ON THE SCREEN BEFORE, WHICH WAS THE CURB CUT WHERE MY CURSOR IS TO THE FOUR, UM, PRIORLY, UH, PROPOSED HOMES ON THE EAST SIDE.

SO, UM, OTHER THINGS, I THINK TO CALL IT TO YOUR ATTENTION ARE YES, THE, THE, THE, THE INCREASED OPEN SPACE TO THE FRONT OF THE SITE, UM, ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD, YOU NOW HAVE THIS, THIS CONTINUOUS BAND OF OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION.

WHEREAS, AND I'M JUST GONNA JOG BACK AND FORTH A FEW TIMES BECAUSE IT'S THE BEST WAY TO, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THIS, UH, AT HOME IS, YOU KNOW, YOU JUXTAPOSE THIS AREA HERE AS THE OP THE ENTRANCE TO THE SITE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY HAD, YES, IT DID HAVE A POND, BUT IT HAD HOMES.

AND THEN YOU JUXTAPOSED THAT ALONGSIDE THE UPDATED LAYOUT AND YOU PRESERVE GREEN SPACE.

ALSO, OF NOTE ON WORTHINGTON ROAD, THERE WERE AN ALTERNATIVE H HOMES PROPOSED WITH, UH, FRONTAGE ON WORTHINGTON ROAD.

THOSE, IN THIS ALTERNATIVE, THE, UH, CD OVERLAY ALTERNATIVE, THOSE HOMES NOW HAVE FRONTAGE ON AN INTERIOR ROADWAY WHERE MY CURSOR IS.

SO THAT MEANS NO NEW DRIVEWAYS ON WORTHINGTON ROAD, IN ADDITION TO THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE, LET'S CALL IT THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE WHERE MY CURSOR IS.

UM, THERE ARE SOME STEEP SLOPES IN THERE.

THE APPLICANT NOW PROPOSES, UH, THAT TO BE ALL OPEN SPACE.

SO, UM, IN, IN COMPARISON, WHAT YOU HAVE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE RETAINAGE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE POWER LINES WITHOUT AN INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL UNIT DENSITY.

YOU HAVE 14.2 ACRES PROPOSED TO BE DONATED TO THE TOWN, OR, OR AS OPPOSED TO 8.6 ACRES.

AND, UM, THE MECHANISM WITH WHICH THE CD OVERLAY DOES THIS, AS I, AS I INDICATED BEFORE, IT GIVES FLEXIBILITY TO LOT SIZE BECAUSE HOW DO YOU PICK UP ALL THIS EXTRA SPACE YET STILL, YOU KNOW, HAVE ALL THE, ALL THE, THE SAME NUMBER OF LOTS.

AND THAT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSING A RANGE OF LOTS FROM 18,000 SQUARE FEET TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET, SO ALMOST HALF ACRE.

WHEREAS THE PREVIOUS LAYOUT, YOU HAD ALL MINIMUM HALF ACRE AND ALL MINIMUM THREEQUARTER ACRE LOTS.

[00:50:01]

SO THAT'S HOW YOU PICK UP THE POTENTIAL TO RETAIN OPEN SPACE ON THIS SITE.

UM, THIS SEEMS REALLY FABULOUS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY LIKE A WIN WIN WIN BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE GOING FROM EIGHT, EIGHT ACRES OF OPEN SPACE TO OVER 14 ACRES OF, UH, OPEN SPACE.

IT'S A MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE DESIGN.

I CAN'T SEE ANY DOWNSIDES, DOWNSIDES TO THIS.

YOU KNOW, I, I PERSONALLY CONCLUDED I HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE TOLD THEM DEFINITELY WE WANNA ADVANCE THIS TO THE TOWN BOARD TO GET YOUR INPUT.

UM, YEAH, SO WE REACHED OUT TO LABEL AND, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT FOR THE TOWN.

AND IT SEEMS AS IF INDEED ACROSS THE BOARD, THE, THE, THE IMPACTS ARE LESSENED.

SO YOU HAVE OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION THAT'S POSITIVE, THAT'S LESS IMPACTS, YOU HAVE LESS CURB CUTS, THAT'S POSITIVE.

UM, SO WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY AREAS WHERE THE PROPOSAL GOES IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

UM, THESE HOMES AGREED, THEY, WE THINK THERE WILL BE VERY, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT, COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, BUT NO DISSIMILAR FROM HOMES IN THE AREA.

SO ACTUALLY TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, YOU HAVE R 10 ZONING.

SO BASICALLY YOU HAVE, UM, THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS MINIMUM 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS A RANGE, OR WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE IS A RANGE OF 18 TO 20,000, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A, A, A SMOOTH TRANSITION.

AND NOT THAT THE PRIOR SUBDIVISION WAS INCOMPATIBLE, BUT IT WAS 30,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS MINIMUM.

AND IN SOME INSTANCES THEY WERE 35,000 SQUARE FOOT ALONGSIDE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, LOTS.

SO IT ACTUALLY WASN'T AS SMOOTH A TRANSITION AS WHAT I SEE HERE.

AND HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO, UH, DOREEN LIPSON AND HER CIVIC GROUP? SO WHAT I DID, I DID, UM, REACH OUT TO SOME RESIDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LIMITED TIME THAT I HAVE, JUST TO MAKE THEM AWARE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE THIS PRESENTATION AND I KNOW IT WAS POSTED ON THE AGENDA.

UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS TO BE, YOU KNOW, AWARE OF THIS CONCEPT AND, UM, TO THE EXTENT THERE'S SUPPORT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.

I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO REACH OUT TO COMMISSIONER BYRNE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED THAT THE ACREAGE OF OF LAND FOR THE PARK, YOU KNOW, COULD CONCEIVABLY GO FROM 8.6 ACRES TO 14, I SAID, OH MY GOODNESS, I REALLY NEED TO LET JERRY KNOW THIS .

I THINK HE WOULD LIKE TO LET HIS PARKS BOARD, YOU KNOW, KNOW OF THE PROSPECT OF THIS TYPE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UPDATED DEVELOPMENT.

SO, SO WE COULD GET OUR, I'VE DONE SOME LIMITED OUTREACH ONLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE TOWN BOARD AND NOT DO YOU KNOW TO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOU FIRST, UM, OF COMFORT IF YOU DO LIKE A NARRATIVE AND THEN WE COULD POST IT ON THE WEBSITE SO THIS WAY EVERYBODY COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

WITH, WITH THIS VIDEO, OF COURSE.

SO GARRETT LOT SIZES ARE SMALLER AND THE HOUSES ARE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE THE HOUSES ARE SMALLER.

YEAH, GOOD QUESTION.

SO WITH THE PRIOR PROPOSAL WITH A SERIES OF LOTS THAT WERE MINIMUM 20,000 OR 30,000 WAS ANTICIPATED, WERE HOMES THAT WOULD BE EITHER 4,000 SQUARE FEET, 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND MAYBE THAT WOULD BE THE HIGH END WHEN YOU, UH, RUN THE ANALYSIS PER OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, WHICH IS THE HOME SIZE IS OUR FUNCTION OF THE LOT SIZES.

UM, YOU, IT REALLY DOES GO DOWN TO SORT OF IN THE 3,500 SQUARE FOOT RANGE TO 4,000.

AND ALSO WHEN YOU THINK OF TRANSITION THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH, I DON'T SUSPECT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, 5,000 SQUARE FOOT HOMES.

SO IT IS A SMOOTHER TRANSITION IN TERMS OF, OF THAT CONCEPT.

OKAY.

UM, SORRY, IT DOESN'T, THERE, THERE, THERE ARE MANY POSITIVES FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE THAT I SEE, UM, FROM THIS TYPE OF LAYOUT.

AND CERTAINLY HOME SIZE TRANSITION I THINK WOULD CERTAINLY BE ONE OF THEM.

I, I AGREE.

SO THE QUESTION NOW IS PROCESS.

THIS IS NOT PART OF THE RECORD.

YOU'RE WORKING UP A FINDING STATEMENT BASED ON THE RECORD.

HOW DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, SO I CAN ABSOLUTELY, UH, MAKE LABEL AVAILABLE, UM, AT A SUBSEQUENT WORK SESSION OR, OR OR A MEETING OF THE TOWN BOARD.

UM, BECAUSE THE IMPACTS ARE, ARE APPEAR TO BE LESS, THE KEY THAT THEY'VE INDICATED IS THAT THE UPDATED OR THE FINDINGS, 'CAUSE REALLY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANY DRAFT FINDINGS ARE CONCLUDE THAT, THAT THE IMPACTS ARE INDEED LESS.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE SECRET PROCESS IS ALL ABOUT, IS DELIVERING A PROJECT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE LEAST TO THE, TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICAL LESSONS IMPACTS.

MM-HMM.

SO LABEL BELLA DOES FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THIS COULD BE DONE THROUGH THE FINDING STATEMENT PROCESS, WHICH AGAIN, IS REALLY MEMORIALIZES

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THE END PRODUCT AND IT IDENTIFIES WHERE THE CURB CUTS ARE, THAT THERE'S NOT TO BE EXTRA DENSITY OVER ONE 13, WHICH IS WHAT YOU ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, HAD BEFORE YOU, UM, THAT IT WILL HAVE 14.2 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE THAT THE AREAS, UH, SHOWN ON THIS PLAN AT A MINIMUM WILL BE PRESERVED.

SO, UM, ESSENTIALLY THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY, THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS BEING DONE THROUGH THE FINDING STATEMENT PROCESS.

THIS SHOWS THAT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT RAMPS TO THE SPRINGBROOK PARKWAY ARE NOT, UM, LINED UP, WHICH IS WHAT D O T IS REQUIRING AS A MINIMUM.

IS IT INTENTIONAL OR DID THEY JUST NOT GET TO THAT IN THE PLAN? YES.

SO THE FINDING STATEMENT WILL IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT THE NEW YORK STATE D O T INDICATED IN THAT RESPECT.

AND, UM, THE APPLICANT ALREADY HAS PROVIDED AN ADDENDUM DRAWING THAT SHOWS THAT IN CONCEPT, UM, THAT WOULD BE REFERENCED SINCE THIS AFTERNOON.

NO, NO, NO.

THAT WAS DONE AS PART OF, UM, THE ONGOING PROCESS.

SO THAT DRAWING COULD BE REFERENCED.

I THINK THE FOCUS HERE IS REALLY ON THIS SITE.

OKAY.

WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE APPROVE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT, LIKE THAT WHICH IS NOT, IT'S NOT SEXY, IT'S NOT IN COLOR, IT'S JUST TO THE SIDE THAT WE DON'T MISS THE FACT THAT THOSE RIGHT ENTRANCE AND EXIT LAND RAMPS AREN'T THE LINE.

SO, WELL, THAT'S WHY IT READS PRELIMINARY, I WOULD IMAGINE.

WHEN WOULD YOU THINK THE FINDING STATEMENT ORIGINALLY WE WERE GONNA HAVE THE FINDING STATEMENT ISSUED AROUND THIS TIME, RIGHT? SO WHAT, WHAT, HOW MUCH OF A DELAY DO YOU THINK IT IS NOW? I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO ISSUE DRAFT FINDING STATEMENT THAT WE CAN PUT ON THE WEBSITE AND, AND, AND FOR THE, THE, THE, THE TOWN BOARD'S CONSIDERATION, UM, PROBABLY LIKE FIRST TO SECOND WEEK OF JUNE.

OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT THAT MUCH OF A DELAY.

AND THEN WHEN WE, AND WE WOULD VOTE ON AT ONE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF IT MAKES SENSE TO, TO PUSH OUT A DATE AT THAT AT THIS POINT.

UM, I THINK I'D, I'D LIKE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK THE, THE DRAFT ALONG, GET SOME MORE DETAIL HERE.

UM, BUT I THINK I'D LIKE TO COME BACK WITH A, A POTENTIAL DATE, BUT BASICALLY JUST TO REASSURE RESIDENTS, THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA, NOW WE'RE GOING TO, UH, BACK OFF OF OUR COMMITMENT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO IT'S GONNA BE 113 AND SINGLE FAMILY, AND THE BOARD IS 100% COMMITTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THAT BECAUSE, UM, IF THE STATE LEGISLATURE APPROVES, UM, THE CONDO LEGISLATION FOR GREENBURG, UM, WE STILL DON'T WANT TO HAVE TOWNHOUSES THERE.

RIGHT.

AND WHAT'S, SO IF THE SAME QUESTION WERE TO COME UP, WELL, OKAY, THIS PRESENT OWNER IS NOT A LAND DEVELOPER.

UM, THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ALTERNATIVE H WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT THE FINDING STATEMENT REFLECT EXACTLY WHAT THE TOWN BOARD FEELS IS BEST FOR THIS SITE.

AND ALL THE INPUTS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, THE 113 DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING WILL ABSOLUTELY BE THE CORNERSTONE OF, OF THAT FINDING STATEMENT.

SO REALLY IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO THE SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPER IS, WE HAVE THE FINDING STATEMENT, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD WILL FOLLOW THROUGH WITH ITS SUBDIVISION PROCESSES, IT WILL EMPLOY CONDITIONS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE FINDING STATEMENT, AND WE HAVE THE RULES AND MECHANISMS TO ENSURE THAT WHOEVER THE DEVELOPER IS WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS.

YEAH, I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THE STATE SENATE MAY, UM, DO WHAT THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, BOARD HAS BEEN ASKING, RELATING TO THE CONDOS AND, UH, UH, HAVING FUTURE CONDOS TAXED AS, UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL RATHER THAN AS COMMERCIAL.

AND I DON'T WANT, IF IT'S BEFORE THE SENATE, BEFORE THEY, YOU KNOW, CLOSE AND IT'S APPROVED, NOBODY ON THE BOARD, UNLESS ANYBODY DISAGREES, WE'RE ALL A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMITTED TO, TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AT THIS, AT THE SITE.

RIGHT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU PREFERABLY AS SHOWN, RIGHT? YEAH.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE'S AN, IF WE HAVE TO, AS A HOME RULE MESSAGE, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THERE'S AN END RUN.

AND, UM, AT THE LAST MINUTE WE'RE GONNA SAY, OKAY, NOW WE WANT THE TOWN, WE DON'T WANT THE TOWNHOUSES.

RIGHT.

SO IF THAT LEGISLATION IS PASSED, IT WILL NOT APPLY TO THIS, TO THE SITE SITE.

UM, MAKES SENSE.

THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE A PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED? SO THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING.

I I JUST, IF IF THE LEGISLATION IS PASSED, IT WOULD

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APPLY TO THIS.

SO THEY CAN'T DO CONDO.

NO, BUT WE'RE RIGHT.

I THINK WHAT THE SUPERVISOR'S INDICATING IS THAT IF CONDO LEGISLATION WERE PASSED, REGARDLESS, THIS BOARD IS COMMITTED TO, UH, A SINGLE FAMILY LAYOUT OF 113 HOMES ON THIS SITE.

AND IF IT TRANSITIONS TO THIS CONCEPT, UM, THAT'S CONSISTENT AS WELL.

RIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THIS CONCEPT REGARDLESS OF THE LEGISLATION, BUT THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

SO REGARDING THE PUBLIC HEARING, YES.

UM, THE ONLY ZONE CHANGE, THIS IS NOT BE A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE UNDERLYING R 20 AND R 30 THAT WOULD ALL STAY ON THE MAP? YES, THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING COMPONENT OF THE CD OVERLAY THAT IS A LEGISLATIVE ACTION AS A ZONING MAP CHANGE.

UM, SO YES, THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THAT, A REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD.

UM, BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE PLANNING BOARD ACTUALLY HAD, YOU KNOW, HAD INDICATED SHOULD THE TOWN BOARD GO THE SINGLE FAMILY OPTION, IT, IT INDICATED THAT, UH, THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATION FOR THE CD OVERLAY BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES, THERE'S, THERE'S GREEN SPACE ALL OVER THIS PLAN AS OPPOSED TO THE PRIOR PLAN.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

EXCELLENT.

THIS IS EXCELLENT WORK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, GARY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

OH, AND LASTLY, UM, I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL, UH, WORK WITH THE APPLICANT.

WE WILL GET THIS UP.

I WILL DO A WRITEUP, BUT WE WILL ALSO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE AS A DEPARTMENT TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE WATCHING AND THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.

THEY SHOULD FEEL ENCOURAGED TO CALL OUR DEPARTMENT AND POSE QUESTIONS.

UM, I WILL, YOU KNOW, MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO THE PARKS AND REC BOARD.

I WILL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO THE C A C TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THIS CONCEPT, UM, BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT, RIGHT? WE ALL, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, I THINK THE TOWN BOARD'S BEEN VERY CONSISTENT AND YOU WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS SITE.

AND, UM, I JUST FELT THAT HAD I TOLD THE DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, IT'S TOO LATE.

LET'S, LET'S, LET'S MOVE AWAY.

I WOULDN'T BE DOING WHAT I KNOW IS IN THE SPIRIT OF THE BOARD, WHICH POTENTIALLY COULD BE A BETTER DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SITE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

DO YOU WANNA JUST SAY IN TWO SECONDS? UM, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, THE RESIDENTS OF EAST IRVINGTON HAVE NOT HAD, HAD SOLE SERVICE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NEAR TAXI ROAD.

AND GARRETT, THE BOARD GARRETT HAD PROPOSED SOME LEGISLATION A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WHICH WE APPROVED.

AND, UM, SOME PROVIDERS, UM, STARTED VERIZON, UM, ACTUALLY, UM, HAS MADE, UM, EAST IRVINGTON NOW, UM, CELL SERVICE, YOU KNOW, FRIENDLY.

SO PEOPLE ARE STUCK ON TAXI ROAD OR MOUNTAIN ROAD.

UH, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO NOW, UH, GET CELL SERVICE.

AND UP TILL MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO, UH, THEY COULDN'T.

YEAH.

SO I, I CERTAINLY CANNOT TAKE CREDIT FOR THE, UH, LEGISLATION WITH RESPECT TO THE SMALL CELL ANTENNAS.

UM, I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO DEFER TO THE ANTENNA BOARD AND COUNCILMAN SHEEN WHO REALLY PUT THAT TOGETHER.

BUT YES, WE, UM, WE DID MEET WITH, IT WAS A SUCCESS ON THE LEVEL THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY CAME TO US.

THEY IDENTIFIED A PROBLEM, WHICH WAS LACK OF CELL SERVICE.

WE WORKED WITH A CONSULTANT, TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS, A POTENTIAL MONOPOLE, WHICH THE COMMUNITY FELT WAS NOT IN, IN, IN, IN, IN, IN NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.

AND YES, AFTER WAY TOO LONG, UM, BUT BEYOND OUR CONTROL LEGISLATION WAS PASSED.

AND, AND, AND INDEED A, UH, A, A CARRIER CAME IN AND PROPOSED WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE SMALL CELL ANTENNA SYSTEM.

THEY'VE PLACED FOUR OF THESE NODES THROUGHOUT EAST IRVINGTON.

AND, UM, TO THE, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, PEOPLE WITH THE VERIZON WIRELESS CELL SERVICE ARE INDEED HAVING BETTER SERVICE.

AND, UM, WE, WE HAVE NOW REACHED OUT TO T-MOBILE AND AT AND T AND REALLY LET THEM KNOW THAT, HEY, THIS, THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE, THERE IS A LACK OF SERVICE.

ALL YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO IS SIGN ON.

UM, SO OUR HOPE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE WATCHING THAT DON'T HAVE VERIZON AND STILL HAVE THE, THE POOR SERVICE, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET ALL THE CARRIERS ON THE SYSTEM.

SO, UH, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

HOPEFULLY IN, SO THERE'LL BE COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION THERE.

SO IT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD AS A TOWN TO ADOPT LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.

BUT WE'RE NOT CELL PROVIDERS AND THE CELL PROVIDERS, UH, WE HAD SITE LOCATORS THAT WE, THAT, UH, THE ANTENNA BOARD MEMBERS WENT OUT WITH AND MYSELF, UM, TO FIND SPOTS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THEM.

AND THEN IT SEEMED LIKE MONTH AFTER MONTH AFTER MONTH WOULD GO BY AND NOTHING.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, UH, WHATEVER THEIR BUSINESS MODEL WAS OR WHATEVER, THE BOXES THAT ARE UP THERE HOLD MORE THAN ONE PROVIDER.

SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE, UM, VERIZON CONTACT YOUR CARRIER AND TELL THEM, WE WANT CELL SERVICE

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IN THIS AREA.

I THINK THAT'S GOOD ADVICE.

YEAH.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK OUR CHANNELS, BUT YEAH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CUSTOMER, YOU WOULD THINK THE CER PROVIDERS WOULD NOT WANT THEM TO SWITCH TO VERIZON, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING AVAILABLE.

IS THERE A WAY, IS DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO AGGREGATE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN ONE OR THE OTHER SO THAT IT'S A MORE COMPELLING REASON FOR THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICE THERE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY HAVE THAT SERVICE? SO, YOU KNOW, LOOK, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE IT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THAT IT SEEMS TO ME WE'VE GOTTEN VIRTUALLY NO, YOU KNOW, NO, VERY FEW COMPLAINTS.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE A WEEK AGO THERE WAS ONE OR TWO COMPLAINTS, BUT I, I THINK PEOPLE, THEY HAVE A VERY ACTIVE CIVIC ASSOCIATION UP THERE WHO HAS BEEN ON TOP OF THIS AND NOT SHY ABOUT EMAILING US, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S HAPPENING.

UM, SO FOR THOSE THAT NOW HAVE IT AND OTHERS REALIZE THEY DON'T, UH, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE A CHOICE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A DIFFERENT PROVIDER.

I'M NOT GONNA SAY A BRAND, UH, DO YOU SWITCH TO VERIZON OR DO YOU WAIT FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR COMPANY TO COME ALONG WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN CALL 9 1 1 AT HOME? RIGHT.

AND THAT'S, THAT WAS THE SAFETY ISSUE.

THAT WAS, WE WERE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE, IN, IN RECORD SPEED, WE ACTUALLY ADOPTED, UH, NEW LEGISLATION WORKING WITH OUR, OUR, UM, OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL WHO'S AN EXPERT IN TELECOMMUNICATIONS LAW.

UH, AND IN RECORD SPEED, WE PUT THAT LEGISLATION ON THE BOOKS MAKING IT AVAILABLE.

AND SO IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF, OF A PROVIDER COMING IN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU YOU SO MUCH, KAREN.

THANK YOU.

PAUL, YOU PUT MASK REQUIREMENT ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WITH, UM, UM, WITH COVID INCREASING, I WANTED TO KNOW IF, UM, THE BOARD WANTED TO ONCE AGAIN REQUIRE, UM, UH, MASKS, UH, TOWN BOARD MEETINGS OR, UM, UM, I MEAN, WE, WE DO HAVE, WE COULD BE GETTING LARGE ATTENDANCE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COVID IS ON THE UP SWING AGAIN.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO ASK THE BOARD WHAT, WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO.

WELL, LET ME JUST GIVE SOME CONTEXT.

THE STATE IS NOT IMPOSING A MASK REQUIREMENT.

RIGHT.

IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THEY WILL BE, THE COUNTY IS NOT IMPOSING A CA A A MASK REQUIREMENT AND CERTAINLY SO GREAT.

I'M SURE THAT THERE'LL BE RECONSIDERATION.

UM, NOT THAT WE SHOULDN'T OUT OF RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO ARE CONCERNED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE CONTEXT.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WONDERING FOR TOMORROW'S TOWN BOARD MEETING, YOU KNOW, THE, I MEAN, THIS IS AN AUDITORIUM AND THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE HERE AND, UM, I MEAN, WE HAD A MEETING A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHERE SOMEBODY HAD COVID AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I, I, UH, I THINK THIS C D C IS RECOMMENDING, UH, MASKS AND INDOOR, UH, LOCATIONS, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD.

I MEAN, I, I THINK FOR THE BOARD, WHAT AUTHORITY DO WE HAVE? WHAT IF THE STATE DOESN'T, UM, GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT? WHAT AUTHORITY DO WE HAVE? I'M, I'M, I'M SAYING WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY AT A BOARD MEETING, UH, YOU HAVE TO WEAR A MASK ACCORDING TO THE C D C OR ACCORDING YEAH.

WHO, YEAH.

WHO ARE WE ACCORDING TO US, JUST TO SAY BECAUSE WE WANT IT, OR IT'S IT'S OUR BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD, FOR OUR BUILDING, PUBLIC BUILDING, WE COULD DO WHATEVER WE WANT.

THAT'S WHAT I, IT'S A PUBLIC BUILDING THAT'S, IT IS A TOWN PUBLIC BUILDING UNDER THE GUIDELINES OF, UH, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, AGAIN, I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE IT.

YEAH.

BUT ENCOURAGING IS NOT, IS NOT LEAVE IT TO WELL, YEAH.

BUT THIS IS AN ALTERNATIVE THAT RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, IF, IF IN FACT THIS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, YOU'RE SITTING RIGHT ACROSS, BUT I'M, I'M BASICALLY RIGHT NOW ASKING THE BOARD, DO WE WANT TO HAVE, THIS IS NOT ME MAKING A STATE A POLICY.

I'M SAYING WHAT DOES THE BOARD WANT DO? WE COULD SAY DON'T DO ANYTHING, WHICH IS OPTION ONE.

OR WE COULD SAY OPTION TWO WOULD BE, UH, AT A BOARD MEETING, UM, AT ALL BOARD MEETINGS, THEY HAVE TO, PEOPLE HAVE TO, UH, WEAR MASKS.

OPTION THREE COULD BE, WE COULD SAY ON TOWN, ON BUILDINGS, EVERYBODY HAS TO WEAR A MASK.

IT'S BASICALLY WHATEVER THE BOARD WANTS.

I, I THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN LEGALLY DO THAT.

I'M SURE WE COULD DO IT.

WELL, LET'S DOUBLE.

WE SHOULD PROBABLY CONFIRM THAT.

YEAH.

LET'S CONFIRM FOR TOMORROW.

YOU KNOW,

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BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T LEGALLY DO IT, THEN IT'S A MOOT POINT AND WE KNOW NO SENSE, YOU KNOW, HAVING A DEBATE ABOUT IT.

WHAT CAN YOU, YOU MENTIONED THE, YOU MENTIONED THE COUNTY IS NOT REQUIRING IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA REQUIRE IT.

SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NOT A DOING, IT'S NOT NOT A STATE MANDATE.

NO, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRING IT BECAUSE NOT NOBODY EVER SAID THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT.

IT'S THAT THEY DON'T FEEL THAT THEY WANT DO IT.

UH, SO THE QUESTION IS, WE, WE HAVE THE SAME OPTION ON .

THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS NOT ISSUING RIGHT.

HE DOESN'T WANT TO.

RIGHT.

HE DOESN'T, WHICH IS FINE HERE.

WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE ASK TIM HIS OPINION.

YEAH, I MEAN THE ANOTHER OPTION TO WOULD BE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT BE PERSONAL DECISION, BUT MAYBE ENFORCING THE SEPARATION OF MASKED AND NON MASKED AS WE DID.

WE'VE TRIED THAT.

PEOPLE WANT US, PEOPLE WANNA SIT FREELY FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SIT WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE MASK ON, PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANNA MASK ON.

PAT, WOULD YOU MIND GOING, SEEING IF TIM'S AVAILABLE? YEAH, THANK YOU.

YEAH, JUST THEN HE CAN'T BE FAR.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT BASIS, I MEAN, WHAT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ON SOLID GROUND, WHAT WE DO, RIGHT.

INSURANCE COURSE.

AND WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF WE WANT TO DO IT.

THAT'S, IT'S TWO THINGS.

ARE THERE SOLID GROUND? AND THE SECOND IS, DO WE WANT DO IT? IF WE DON'T, IF WE WANT TO DO IT, IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT, THEN IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

I MEAN, WASN'T IT LIKE, ALMOST LIKE ONE IN 10 PEOPLE HAVE COVID NOW, IF THEY DIDN'T TEST IT, IT'S VERY HIGH.

IT MISSION RATE IS EXTREMELY HIGH, BUT YOU WON'T KNOW IT BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T AFFORD IT THAT WAY ANYMORE.

AND IT'S GONNA GET WORSE AS WE GET.

IT'S GONNA DIP AND THEN IT'S GONNA COME BACK UP AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER.

DO WE, THE DIFFICULTY, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

NO, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF WE KNEW WHETHER THE INCREASE IN TRANSMISSION RATES IS AMONG THE UNVACCINATED OR UNBOOSTED, OR WE DO NOT DOWN THE STATE.

DID NOT, HAS NOT BROKEN IT DOWN.

ACTUALLY.

WE'VE BEEN LOOK ASKING FOR THAT, BUT IT'S, IT, IT'S ALMOST MOOT BECAUSE OF HOME TESTING.

NO, PEOPLE DON'T REPORT THEIR HOME TESTING.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE LEVELING OFF AT THIS POINT AT ABOUT 5,000.

AND THAT'S BEEN REASONABLY STEADY, WHICH IS MUCH LOWER THAN IT WAS, UM, AT THE HEIGHT OF NOT JUST OMICRON, BUT MM-HMM.

MM-HMM.

AND THE, THE HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE, HAVE GONE UP, NOT AND AN ALARMING RATE, BUT THEY HAVE GONE UP AND, BUT THE FATALITIES, UM, NEVER GOOD.

MM-HMM.

, BUT THEY STILL ARE LOW, QUITE LOW BY COMPARISON, AVERAGING ABOUT TWO PER WEEK.

SO WE WANNA KNOW IF THE BOARD, DOES THE BOARD HAVE THE ABILITY OF, UM, REQUIRING MASKS INSIDE THIS BUILDING? YES.

IT'S YOUR BUILDING.

YOU CAN REQUIRE A MASK IF YOU WANT IT.

OKAY.

THERE'S NO STATE MANDATE THAT SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT DO THAT.

OKAY.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT FOR BOARD MEETINGS, THAT ANYONE COMING INTO THE AUDITORIUM SHOULD HAVE TO WEAR A MASK.

THAT'S MY PERSONAL FEELING.

YOU KNOW, I RESPECT THE BOARD IF YOU DISAGREE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL THAT, UH, THERE'S GOING, THERE COULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE TOMORROW, UH, THEY'LL BE IN, YOU KNOW, IN A ROOM AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU HOLD ON A SECOND, GINA? TIM SAID THAT WE CAN ENFORCE IT.

I, I FEEL THAT BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY NOT WEARING A MASK AND GETTING ME, OR, YOU KNOW, INFECTED OR GETTING ANYBODY ON THE BOARD INFECTED.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST, I, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THE BOARD.

YEAH.

NOW, IF SOMEONE COMES ALONG AND SAYS THAT THEY HAVE A DISABILITY, WHICH AFFECTS THEIR ABILITY TO WEAR A MASK, THEN YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH A REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE.

SO THE ALTERNATIVES, THEY COULD WATCH IT ON TV.

THAT'S ONE ALTERNATIVE.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT WOULD THE BOARD WANT TO DO? I MEAN, DOES IT, DOES IT DEPEND ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE ROOM? WE DON'T KNOW, LIKE NUMBERS YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION ON? NO, I MEAN, SUGGESTING FOR US IS THAT WE, WHEN WE HAVE MEETINGS AND PEOPLE GATHER, THEY SHOULD WEAR MASKS.

WELL, DOES IT DEPEND ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE ROOM? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF THERE'S VERY FEW PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AS THERE HAVE BEEN FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU CAN SOCIAL DISTANCE AND THERE'S AMPLE SPACE, IT WOULD SEEM LESS, YOU KNOW, LESS IMPORTANT.

BUT IF IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, UM, AND EVERYBODY'S SITTING RELATIVELY CLOSE TOGETHER AND THE ROOM IS FULL, THEN IT'S MORE IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

I THINK IT'S

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A LITTLE SOON TO IMPOSE THAT MANDATE FOR TOMORROW BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND SOME PEOPLE MAY SHOW UP WITHOUT MASKS NOT KNOWING WHAT THE POLICY IS.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU COULD JUST GIVE THEM A MASK.

YOU CAN TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY FAILING IS THAT TOMORROW'S MEETING I THINK COULD BE WELL ATTENDED BECAUSE WE, WE ARE HAVING A, WE ARE HAVING A, A MAJOR PRESENTATION.

YOU KNOW? SO THE THING IS, UM, ARE WE GOING TO ASK THE, THE, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE PUTTING ON A, UM, YEAH, ANYBODY SHOW FOR US TO WEAR MASKS WHILE THEY DO IT? I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I I THINK THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE, I'M GIVING YOU MY OWN PERSONAL FAILING, WHICH PEOPLE COULD DISAGREE WITH.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF, UH, OF ANXIETY AND WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS.

SO MY LEVEL IS DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, OTHERS, YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE WITH, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION THE PAST COUPLE YEARS.

YEAH.

FOR ME, IF WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO IT, I DON'T SEE HOW WE COULD BE, UM, 'CAUSE I WORK IN OTHER PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

UH, WE COULD REQUEST, YOU COULD SEE THE SIGN ON OUR ASSISTANT'S DOOR SAYS, YOU KNOW, I REQUEST THAT YOU WEAR A MASK IF YOU ENTER.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD DO MUCH MORE THAN THAT, BUT IF WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO IT, UM, LEGALLY, THEN I WOULD'VE NO OBJECTION TO DOING THAT.

WE'LL GET A LEGAL OPINION TOMORROW.

YEAH.

I, I DON'T OBJECT.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

SO YOU'LL LET US KNOW TOMORROW AND THEN WE WE COULD POST IT AS POSSIBLE.

YEAH.

YOU HAVE ENOUGH MASKS ON HAND TO HAND OUT.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW MASKS.

I THINK I HAVE MASKS.

CORY HAS MASKS AT SECURITY DESK.

I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY OF MASKS.

OKAY.

JUST I THINK, YEAH, BE SURE OF THAT.

LET ME KNOW IF YOU DON'T.

OKAY.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE? NOW WE HAVE THE AGENDA REVIEW.

WELL, YOU PUT, YOU PUT THE INCORPORATION BACK ON THE AGENDA.

UM, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT WITH THE, I DIDN'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, SO NOW IT'S ON THERE.

IT'S ON THERE AGAIN.

IT'S ON THERE.

WELL, I, I INDICATED THAT IF YOU KNOW THE BOARD, I MEAN, WE HAD THE VOTE LAST WEEK AND IT DIDN'T PASS.

SO IF IT'S, UNLESS YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, UNLESS THE BOARD BASICALLY WANTS TO CHANGE YOUR MIND AND THE ASSET, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA KEEP, UH, YOU KNOW, PUSHING IT.

THE ONLY OTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD, BECAUSE IT IS THE END OF, UH, THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS, UM, IF, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BASICALLY, UH, WITHOUT ENDORSE DOING A HOME RULE, IF THE BOARD WANTED, WE COULD, UM, ENDORSE THE CONCEPT OF A MORATORIUM.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU EVEN PUT LIKE A RESOLUTION ON IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW COULD BE AT ANOTHER MEETING SAYING THE BOARD STRONGLY SUPPORTS A MORATORIUM.

WE ASK, UH, UM, THE STATE TO, UH, ASSIGN AN INDEPENDENT PERSON FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TO REVIEW THIS.

AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE IN CONCEPT.

AND THEN WE URGE, UM, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATES AND OPPONENTS OF INCORPORATION TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO CONSIDER, UH, UH, IN GOOD FAITH GIVING THIS, UM, OPTION OF, YOU KNOW, A CHANCE.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UM, THIS WHOLE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, OF HAVING A MORATORIUM AND A STUDY, YOU KNOW, DOES REALLY MAKE SENSE.

AND IT COULD BENEFIT EVERYBODY.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE BOARD.

IF THE BOARD DOESN'T WANT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY'RE NOT PURSUE IT, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA.

ON THE OTHER HAND OF THE BOARD WANTS TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, RESOLUTION.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

BUT IT'S UP TO THE BOARD.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA EMBARRASS PEOPLE OR, OR YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EMBARRA OR ANYTHING.

NOT EMBARRA.

IT'S NOT EMBARRASSING.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I, WHEN I HEARD THAT SENATOR COUSINS, STUART COUSINS IS, UH, OPEN TO THE CONDO LEGISLATION, I CALLED TOM AVANTI, UH, REGARDING HOW COULD HE HANDLE THAT ON THE ASSEMBLY SIDE.

UM, AND DURING THE COURSE OF THAT DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, THIS CAME UP AND HE SAID THAT HE, HE URGED YOU TO NOT TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT WAS THE, THE, THE SESSION HAD RUN OUT.

NO.

WELL, RIGHT, I, I DIDN'T PUT THE, I SENT EVERYBODY AN EMAIL A FEW DAYS AGO, EVEN LAST WEEK, SAYING IN THE PAST WEEK.

I SAID, IF THERE'S, IF WE DON'T HAVE TO RE VOTES FOR THIS, TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID AFTER WE VOTED LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T PASS.

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ALRIGHT, SO LET'S TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

SO TAKE IT OFF.

THAT SHOULD SHORTEN OUR, UH, MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT BY ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR.

YEAH, HE SPOKE TO PETE, RIGHT, SIR? PURCHASING PROCESS.

YOU DID THAT.

OKAY.

SO GENERAL REVIEW, UH, OKAY.

LEMME JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.

SO WE HAVE A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION RIGHT AT SEVEN 20.

THAT COULD GO 45 MINUTES, RIGHT? EVERYBODY KIND OF UNDERSTANDS THAT.

AND FOR THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, HOW LONG ARE WE GIVING PEOPLE TO SPEAK? DO WE HAVE A SENSE? IT'S 45 MINUTES TOTAL IS OKAY.

RIGHT.

BUT SOMEONE COULD GO ON AND ON.

I MEAN, DO YOU WANT TO LIMIT IT TO COMMENTS THAT ARE RELEVANT FOR THREE MINUTES, FOUR, FIVE MINUTES? YES.

RAISE IT ON THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

LET'S SAY THREE MINUTES.

THREE MINUTES.

AND, AND WHAT IS THAT TO ME? THIS IS THE PRESENTATION BY JORDAN COPELAND, WHICH IS SCHEDULED TO BE A TOTAL OF 45 MINUTES, BUT IT INCLUDES A QUESTION AND ANSWER SEGMENT.

BUT HOW LONG DID HE SAY HIS PRESENTATION? I NEVER SPOKE TO HIM.

I HAVEN'T TALKED TO HIM.

BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S ABOUT 20 MINUTES.

'CAUSE WE DID IT ON FOR HOUR FOR OUR SESSION.

IT WAS ABOUT 20 MINUTES.

SO THAT GIVES ANOTHER 25 MINUTES OR SO FOR, UM, QUESTION AND ANSWERS FOR EVERYONE.

MAYBE, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, WE COULD LIMIT IT TO THREE MINUTES.

IF THERE AREN'T THAT MANY QUESTIONS WE COULD GIVE PEOPLE FOLLOW WELL, WHAT, YEAH, THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF IF THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY CAN'T ALL BE ANSWERED, THAT WE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO WRITE YOUR QUESTIONS DOWN AND THEY, WE WILL RESPOND TO THEM.

AND ALSO, JUST TO REITERATE THAT WE'RE STARTING THE MEETING AT 7:00 PM JORDAN COPELAND WILL RESPOND TO THEM BECAUSE IT'S HIS PRESENTATION.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

YES.

YEAH.

DIDN'T I, I SAID THOUGHT I WAS WE SORRY, ? NO, IT'S ON THE, IT'S ON THE, IT'S ON THE AGENDA THAT IT STARTS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.

IT STARTS AT SEVEN.

IT STARTS AT SEVEN.

YEAH.

I WAS JUST REITERATING THAT, JUST TO MAKE SURE IN CASE PEOPLE HADN'T COMPUTED THAT.

NO, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ALL SET.

I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A VERY PRESENTATION.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

YEAH.

AND AT SOME POINT, NOT NOW, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT DATES FOR JULY AND AUGUST FOR THE TOWN BOARD MEETINGS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO TB TWO IS COMING OFF THE AGENDA, CORRECT? YES.

SO WHO IS, WHO'S GONNA CONTACT, UH, THE FALCON'S DANCE TEAM TO TELL THEM ABOUT THE MASS POLICY? JOAN SHOULD, DOES SHE HAVE THEIR NUMBERS? UH, JOAN SHOULD CONTACT, UH, THE, UH, TERRANCE TURN THE CENTER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WORK IT OUT.

NO, AND, UH, YOU WANNA EXPLAIN ABOUT THE LOCAL LAWS? YEAH.

NOW THAT THERE ARE TWO OF THEM, PEOPLE MAY THINK WHAT'S, WHAT'S DIFFERENT? I'LL EXPLAIN THAT.

NOW, BY THE WAY, THERE ARE SOME MINOR TWEAKS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE TO IT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE, UM, THE DECIBEL LEVEL IN OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH MAY BE 65 DECIBELS, IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE NEW ONE THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS 75 DECIBELS.

WE MIGHT HAVE TO RECONCILE THAT THESE ARE LIKE MINOR CHANGES.

AND ALSO WE CHANGED, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WE BASICALLY ARE GONNA JUST HAVE TWO DAYS INSTEAD OF THREE DAYS OF NO, NO, UH, LOW, UH, LEAF BLOWING OF ANY KIND.

AND WE ALSO ARE LIMITING THE HOURS IN THE, THE NEW DRIFT, BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL FROM, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO PEOPLE, UM, THAT IF WE START WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT LESS, UH, A LITTLE EASIER TO, YOU KNOW, FOR, UH, HOMEOWNERS AND LANDSCAPERS TO COMPLY WITH, UH, THERE'LL BE LESS, YOU KNOW, RESISTANCE.

UH, THE ONLY OTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD IS I WAS MEETING, SO WHAT, WHAT TWO DAYS ARE THE BLOWERS GONNA BE USED? YOU CAN'T DO IT ON, UH, TUESDAY.

TUESDAY AND THURSDAYS.

TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY AND, UH, THURSDAY, TUESDAY ALSO WE SWITCHED IT.

YEAH.

SO IT'D BE NO BEFORE, WASN'T THAT TUESDAY? AND WELL, YOU COULD ONLY DO

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IT ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS.

SO NOW THAT'S, IT'S GONNA A COUPLE OF RADIATION.

OKAY.

THEN YOU CAN'T DO IT ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS.

AND, UM, AND THEN THE TIME PERIOD HAS BEEN, I THINK YOU SAID 10 O'CLOCK TO YEAH, 10 TO FIVE.

AND I THINK IN THE WEEKENDS IT'S 11 TO THREE.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT.

PEOPLE GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

YOU LISTEN, MAYBE YOU AGREE, MAYBE YOU DON'T AGREE.

COULD I HAVE A QUESTION? COULD YOU MAYBE JUST EMAIL THE, THAT I THINK THIS VERSION MAKES SENSE? WHEN DID, WHEN DID WE DECIDE OF THIS CHANGE? BECAUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PUBLIC HEARING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A EVOLVING BALL.

NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON SOMETHING COMPLETELY OPPOSITE THAN THE FIRST DAY BIRTHDAY.

I, I, I DON'T RECALL US HAVING A DISCUSSION TO DO THAT.

WELL, WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION NOW.

YOU KNOW, I'M BASICALLY, BUT IT'S ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH, BUT THE ISSUE IS THAT WHAT I SORT OF FEEL IS WE HEARD FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO I'M, IN MY OPINION, WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING EARLIER ON AND WE JUST, WE JUST KEEP PLAYING.

SO I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE THE DRAFT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HEARING.

I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE THE DRAFT OF THE WAY IT IS, GET ALL THE COMMENTS UNTIL THE HEARING IS CLOSED, AND THEN CHANGE THE DRAFT TO REFLECT ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, ALL OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD.

AND THEN VOILA IS THE FINAL DRAFT.

YOU DON'T CHANGE IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HEARING BECAUSE YOU'VE, YOU'VE HEARD FROM X NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND NOT ALL OF THE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE HEARING.

I THINK THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE.

AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO TALK AT THIS PART OF THE HEARING, TO THE CONTINUED HEARING TOMORROW ARE GONNA BE COMMENTING ON A DIFFERENT VERSION THAN THE PEOPLE WHO COMMENTED THE FIRST TIME.

SO I, I THINK IT'S TOTALLY WRONG AND INAPPROPRIATE I TO CHANGE IT IN MIDSTREAM.

OKAY.

KAI, UH, COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE IDEA.

UM, COULD WE, SINCE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RESISTANCE TO THE FIRST DRIFT, SO WHAT IF WE BASICALLY SAID, UM, WITHOUT CHANGING THE HEARING, WHAT IF WE SAID THIS IS AN OPTION THAT IS BEING, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED? BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO GET THE WHOLE POINT OF THE HEARING IS TO COME UP WITH AN OPTION.

NO, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE P OF THE HEARING IS TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE AND COME UP WITH A DRAFT BASED ON WHAT THEY SAID, NOT TO CHANGE THE DRAFT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HEARING, BECAUSE THEN THE PEOPLE ARE COMING AND THINK ON DIFFERENT DRAFTS.

NO, BUT THE THING IS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE PUBLIC IF PEOPLE BASICALLY WITH FINE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SPEAK TO PEOPLE ONE-ON-ONE, THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T LIKE IT, WHEN I TELL 'EM, OH, THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING OF RECOMMENDING IF SOME CHANGES, THEN I'M GETTING FEEDBACK AND THEY'RE SAYING, OH, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH THAT.

I'D LIKE THE PUBLIC TO, UH, UH, BEFORE, BEFORE THE HEARING TO SAY, OH, THIS IS ANOTHER OPTION.

AND THEY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

NO.

BECAUSE KNOW, PAUL, YOU'RE GONNA GET, WE'RE GONNA GET DIFFERENT, SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND SUGGESTED OPTIONS IN THE COURSE OF THE HEARING.

THAT MIGHT BE GOOD.

SO WE MIGHT OPT TO MAKE CHANGES THEN.

SO WHY CHANGE? AND THEN MAYBE CHANGE AGAIN, BUT CHANGE NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FOUR DAYS IN A ROW.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY, WHERE THERE'S LEAF FLOWING.

MM-HMM.

.

SO WHAT HAPPENED IS OVER THE WEEKEND, AS OPPOSED TO SATURDAY, SUNDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, WHERE IT'S BASED OUT, SO WHAT HAPPENED IS DISTINCTLY COUNCILMAN JACKSON SAYING MONDAY'S BASICALLY EVERYBODY'S JUST TRYING TO EASE INTO THE DAY.

RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHERE NO MONDAY CAME FROM.

SO JUST ONE MORE THING.

WE HELD OVER THE HEARING FOR ALL PURPOSES ON A PARTICULAR LEGISLATION, CORRECT? RIGHT.

WE DIDN'T HOLD IT.

OH, WE DIDN'T, AS WE SOMETIMES DO, KILL THAT LEGISLATION AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE ANOTHER ONE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENT DRAFT.

NOW WHAT I MEANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA RESCIND THE EXISTING LAW BECAUSE BEF AT THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE PUTTING A NEW CHAPTER IN PLACE WITHOUT RESCINDING THE PROVISIONS, THE LEAFBLOWER PROVISIONS IN THE CURRENT LAW SO THAT WE'RE FIXING.

UM, BUT TO CHANGE IT MIDSTREAM, UM, JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME UNTIL WE GET TO THE END.

AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE LOTS OF THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING.

YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE HEARING ALL OF THIS FROM EVERYBODY.

THERE'S NO WIN ON THIS THING, RIGHT? THERE'S NO WIN.

WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO NOTHING, WE WILL BE, WE WILL HAVE THE SAME PEOPLE, PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE HAPPY AND UNHAPPY AS IF WE DO WHATEVER WE DO.

UM, THERE'S JUST NO WINNING, WHICH IS WHY THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE.

WE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD SEEMS TO WANT TO TRY SOMETHING.

BUT AS FAR AS PROCESS, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT WITHOUT

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US EVEN DECIDING, WE'RE GOING TO THROW OUT THE PREVIOUS ONE AND PUT UP A NEW ONE.

UH, PUT THAT FORWARD.

YEAH.

SO AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENED IS, UH, SOMETIME ON THE WEEKEND, SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, PAUL SENT ME AN EMAIL SAYING, LISTEN, INSTEAD OF ONLY TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, LET'S MAKE IT EVERY DAY.

OTHER THAN THOSE DAYS, RIGHT.

WHICH EMAIL? I, I SPENT TIME WORKING ON THAT.

I CHANGED IT, SENT IT TO ALL OF YOU.

NOBODY RESPONDED.

SO ON THE AGENDA, YOU SEE INTRODUCTION OF LOCAL LAWS.

ONE IS SECTION THREE 80 BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO REPEAL THE OLD SECTION.

CORRECT.

SO THERE'S AN INTRODUCTION OF A LOCAL LAW FOR THAT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER LOCAL LAW OTHER THAN THE DECIBEL LEVEL THAT I JUST MENTIONED.

SO LIKE, I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE NOBODY REALLY RESPONDED BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE ALREADY AT A DISCUSSION THAT WE WERE AT A POINT THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT TOMORROW.

SO IT'S, THIS IS TOO, IT'S TOO MANY BACK.

THIS IS WHERE WE GET ALL THE MISTAKES THAT'S HAPPENING.

SO CAN WE JUST USE, CAN WE JUST USE THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THAT'S YEAH, WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT.

THAT'S OUT THERE.

EVERYONE COMMENT ON IT.

COMMENT, COMMENT ON IT.

WE TAKE KEN'S, UH, COUNCILMAN JA, UH, JONES' ADVICE, TAKE EVERYTHING, PUT ALL TOGETHER AND THEN WE COME OUT WITH SOMETHING.

'CAUSE IT'S TOO MANY VERSIONS.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE GO, HOW MANY TIMES YOU GO BACK AND FORTH.

MANY TIMES IT'S TOO MUCH.

BUT ONE VERSION WAS NEVER OUT THERE.

RIGHT.

THAT WAS THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

SO WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT.

THAT, YES, THAT.

SO THAT'S A NEW VERSION THAT NO ONE HAS SEEN.

YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT.

SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.

YES.

BUT THAT VERSION IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE OLDER VERSION.

SO IT'S GONNA BE CONFUSING TO PEOPLE.

SO WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW WHATEVER VERSIONS YOU PICK, WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW WHAT VERSION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THE ONLY REASON I LIKE MY APPROACH BETTER THAN WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, MY GOAL WAS TO GET SOMETHING APPROVED, UM, THIS YEAR.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, EVERY, YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME WE ACTUALLY ENACT ANYTHING, IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, A YEAR FROM NOW OR IT'S GONNA BE TOO LATE FOR THIS SEASON.

SO I FEEL THAT IF WE GAVE PEOPLE SORT OF A, IF WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COMMENT ON COMPROMISE IDEAS, NOW, EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE IT FINALIZED AND PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY LIKE LEAD BLOWER LAWS, BUT, UM, I REALIZE THAT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE BOTHERED BY THE NOISE AND I, I PROBABLY COULD LIVE WITH TWO DAYS AND THERE MAYBE RESTRICTED HOURS AND, YOU KNOW, A NOISE LEVEL AND EDUCATION.

THEN THERE WOULD'VE BEEN A BETTER CHANCE THAT WE COULD HAVE ENACTED SOMETHING BY, SAY, THE BEGINNING OF JUNE FOR THIS YEAR.

AND YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT IF WE DON'T DO IT THIS WAY, I, I HAVE A FEELING THAT ANOTHER YEAR IS GONNA PASS AND NOTHING'S GONNA BE DONE.

THAT, THAT, THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG.

YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF THE BOARD IS COMMITTED TO DOING SOMETHING THIS YEAR AND IT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL GO BACK TO THE OLD LOCAL, THE OLD LOCAL LAW, WHICH IS ONLY TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS.

BUT I'M TELLING YOU THAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THAT.

SO WE MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY READ THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE DATES, BUT CHANGE THE DATES.

RIGHT.

BUT PEOPLE ALREADY READ THAT LAW.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO AT LEAST, AT LEAST WE KNOW IT'S TUESDAY, THURSDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.

YES.

SO WE SHOULD POST THOSE AND JUST GO BACK TO WHAT WE HAD.

YES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE CAN, THEN WE CAN TAKE EVERYTHING IN HERE.

OKAY.

AND BY THE WAY, I, I HAD, UM, MY FRIEND CAN TELL YOU I HAD PROBLEMS WITH ACCESSIBILITY AND I COULDN'T.

YEAH.

SO DID I.

THE SYSTEM MIGHT'VE BEEN DOWN FOR A WHILE.

YEAH.

YOU HEARD FROM EVERYBODY ON THIS WEEKEND.

.

YOU HEARD FROM EVERYONE THIS WEEKEND.

ALRIGHT, I'M GLAD TO.

NO, IT DIDN'T SINGLE ME OUT.

WELL, IS THERE SOMETHING MORE THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW? I DON'T THINK SO.

LEMME JUST SAY YOU GOT RID OF THE FO APPEAL, RIGHT? YES.

THE FOIL APPEAL WILL BE ON NEXT WEEK, COMING OFF OF THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE I THINK THE 31ST OF, UH, OF MAY.

NEXT TUESDAY, APPROXIMATELY FIVE 30.

OH, THEN WE WANT TO HAVE ROBERTA DO THE BUDGET DISCUSSION IN OPEN SESSION.

YOU ASKED THAT.

IS SHE AROUND? SHE WAS AT A SEMINAR, UH, SEEN HER AND SHE'S AT, WE COULD PUT IT ON FOR NEXT WEEK IF YOU WANT.

YEAH, THAT WOULD GIVE HER A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO COMPARE TOO.

WELL, YOU WANT HER TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THE EFFECT OF INFLATION ON OUR BUDGET, WHICH I, I THINK WE CAN FIGURE OUT

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PARTICULARLY OUR FUEL COSTS.

YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO ON EXECUTIVE SESSION, DISCUSS PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING PARTICULAR PEOPLE.

CAN I READ AND ALSO SOME LEGAL ADVICE.

YOU WANT A PARTICULAR MATTER HERE? OH, UM, BEFORE I GO SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

CONTRACT ISSUES.

SECOND.

OH, GINA, JUST SECOND BEFORE YOU GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION THOUGH, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF BUS TRANSPORTATION FOR THE INTERNS OR FOR ANYONE ELSE FOR THE SUMMER? SO MY UNDERSTANDING AS OF TODAY IS WE'LL HAVE THE BUSES AVAILABLE AT THE END OF AUGUST.

OH, AT THE, OKAY.

SO WE, WE NEED THEM.

WE'LL NEED SOME TRANSPORTATION FOR THE INTERNS SOONER IN JULY.

OKAY.

BEGINNING OF JULY.

UM, IS THERE A BUS COMPANY THAT THE TOWN HAS BEEN, UH, BUSINESS WITH IN THE PAST? JERRY HAS CONTRACTED WITH A BUS COMPANY.

UM, HE TOLD ME THAT IT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE.

SO WE NEED TO TALK TO JERRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WELL MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OTHER .

CAN THEY USE BELINE BUSES? BECAUSE AS OF JUNE ONE, THERE'LL BE NO CHARGE FOR THE USE OF BEELINE BUSES THROUGH AUGUST.

NO.

BECAUSE, UM, THAT, THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK.

BUT CAN WE LOOK AT SOME OFF? I I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OPTIONS.

WAIT, ACTUALLY THAT COULD WORK IF, UH, IF THE, IF WE COULD, I MEAN IF IT'S ALL GONNA BE FREE, BUT PAUL, IT'S FREE.

IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO TAKE THEM TO THE PLACES THAT WE'RE GOING.

OKAY.

IT'S IN THE PAST.

SEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE, THE INTERN SHOULD NOT SUFFER FOR SOME ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, INACTION THAT WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS WHOLE MATTER FROM OCCURRING.

AND, UM, SO I'LL, I'LL LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS.

MAYBE COMPARE AND, AND COMPARE THEM TO THE PRICES THAT, UM, YOU'RE SAYING JURY SAID THE TRANSPORTATION'S EXPENSIVE AND UH, PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO THE BOARD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE INTERNS.

WE'RE HAVING THEM COME HERE FOR SIX WEEKS, TUESDAYS, WEDNESDAYS, THURSDAYS 10:00 AM TO 3:00 PM AND IN EVERY YEAR, EXCEPT 2020, WHEN WE DID THE PROGRAM VIRTUALLY, UM, THERE WAS TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE TO TAKE THE INTERNS TO, TO CERTAIN ON CERTAIN FIELD TRIPS.

UM, THERE'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A LAVISH LUXURY KIND OF, UH, UH, TRANSPORTATION LINE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, PLACES THAT THEY'LL BE GOING.

BUT WE NEED TO NOT HAVE THEM SITTING HERE IN TOWN HALL FOR THE ENTIRE SIX WEEKS BECAUSE OF SOMEONE ELSE'S ADMINISTRATIVE MISTAKES.

OKAY.

WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS IT AND, UH, SO WE'RE GOING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

AYE MAY NOT BE COMING BACK.