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SO WE HAVE, UM, MR. ROBERT VINTI, UH, THE APPLICANT HERE, UH, FOR ONE AMANDA COURT.
UM, DO YOU HAVE THE PLANS AVAILABLE TO YOU? UH, AVAILABLE SHOW ON SCREEN.
I, I HAVE THE REVISE SITE PLAN.
IS THAT THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OR DO YOU NEED SOME OF THE OTHER DOCUMENTS? I HAVE THE ENTIRE PACKAGE RIGHT HERE.
UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND, I'M SORRY.
I WASN'T A LITTLE, UM, LESS PREPARED WITH PLANS AND I WOULD'VE OTHERWISE BEEN, I COULD PUT 'EM ON MY, IS THERE A WAY TO SHARE THE SCREEN? I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN WITH YOU.
IF YOU COULD, YOU CAN SHARE YOUR SCREEN.
LET ME GET THOSE UP THERE FOR YOU.
WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, I'LL, I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
UM, MATT, HOW DO, HOW DO I SHARE MY SCREEN WITH YOU GUYS? CAN YOU, UH, KIND OF GUIDE ME THROUGH THIS? I'M NOT THAT, THAT GREAT AT IT ON THE BOTTOM OF YOU.
DO YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENT OPEN? FIRST OFF, I, I DO DOCUMENTS OPEN, SO ON THE BOTTOM.
SO, SO IF YOU GO INTO ZOOM ON YOUR SCREEN, THERE WE GO.
HOLD SHIFT, JUST LIKE, NO, JUST ONE.
CAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT? MM, YES.
DO WE JUST NEED MIKE? I I, I HAVE TO USE THIS ONE THOUGH 'CAUSE I CAN'T READ THE ONE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN.
I, I, I PRINTED A FULL COPY 'CAUSE THAT WRITING IS WAY TOO SMALL FOR ME.
AND THEN WE CAN GET STARTED DISCUSSING THE PROJECT.
UH, IN THE MEANTIME, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF YOU ZOOM IN ON THE, UH, THE PLAN ON THE POOL AIR.
UH, HOW DO, HOW DO I DO THAT, MATT? SO, AT THE TOP OF, UH, THE, UM, THING.
JUST THE POOL PART, OR YOU WANT THE SOMETHING ELSE? I WOULD JUST SAY CENTER ON THE POND AREA SO THE, THE WHOLE PROPERTY CAN BE SEEN.
LEMME SEE IF I COULD SLIDE THIS OVER THIS WAY.
UM, IS THAT OKAY? THAT'S BETTER.
I MEAN, I CAN MAKE IT ONE MORE NOTCH, BIGGER, BUT THEN IT LOSES THE HOUSE PORTION OF IT, JUST THE BACKYARD.
IS THAT OKAY? I THINK THAT'S FINE FOR NOW.
YOU CAN ZOOM IN WHEN, UH, YOU'RE DISCUSSING SPECIFIC ASPECTS.
MR. VANTI, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PRESENT YOUR PROJECT.
SO, UM, WHEN I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, WE BOUGHT IT, WE HAVE THIS VERY LARGE POND IN THE BACKYARD THAT, I GUESS IT'S JUST A PART OF THE WATERCOURSE IT DRAINAGE FROM UP THE BLOCK.
IT, IT COMES FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF USABLE PROPERTY.
SO I WANTED TO PUT A SMALL POOL TO THE LEFT OF THE POND.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO.
MAKE THE PROPERTY A LITTLE MORE USABLE.
CAN, CAN YOU SHOW YOUR CURSOR EVERYONE WHERE THE POND IS? OH, SURE.
THIS WHOLE BIG THING RIGHT HERE.
MOST OF MY PROPERTY IS THAT POND.
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IT CONTINUES ON DOWN MY NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARDS AS WELL.IT, IT TELL YOU WHAT, UH, I, I ORIGINALLY DIDN'T WANT THIS HOUSE BECAUSE OF IT, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE IT, WE PUT THAT, UH, SPRINKLER THING IN THE WATER TO AERATE IT.
IT, IT'S KIND OF A NICE SOUND YOU GET IN THE AFTERNOON.
NOW WHERE'S, WHERE'S YOUR HOUSE? MY, UM, LET ME ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT, MATT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.
JUST, THIS IS THE HOUSE OVER HERE.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S THE HOUSE, THERE'S THE POND.
THERE'S THE POND, AND THEN THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UH, POOL.
AND YOU AND THE PROPOSED DECKS.
WHY DON'T YOU SHOW ME WHEN YOU PROPOSED DECKS? SO THE PROPOSED DECK IS JUST, IT'S THIS DECK RIGHT HERE, AND YOU SEE THIS LITTLE CUTOUT RIGHT HERE.
I, I WISH I COULD HIGHLIGHT IT, BUT IT'S JUST A LITTLE BUMP OUT.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET TWO FEET TO MATCH THE CONTOUR OF THE HOUSE, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT, THERE'S LIKE BARELY ENOUGH ROOM TO WALK THROUGH HERE.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TWO FEET OUT, JUST TO GET A LITTLE TO MATCH THE HOUSE AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE WALKWAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ZOOM BACK IN ON THE POOL SECTION? OR I COULD SLIDE UP AND ZOOM BACK IN ON, LET ME ZOOM IN ON THE PO ON THE, THE DECK FOR A SECOND.
SO, CAN YOU GUYS SEE THIS RIGHT HERE? IT'S JUST, IT IS JUST THIS LITTLE BIT OF BUMP OUT.
IT'S TWO FEET AND IT'S JUST TRYING TO MATCH THE CONTOUR OF THIS WINDOW.
IT, IT'S A BUMP OUT FROM THE STRUCTURE OF THE HOUSE.
THE DECK GOES STRAIGHT ACROSS, RIGHT? LIKE THIS? IT'S A, IT'S A BUMP OUT FROM THE DECK.
AND IT OVERLOOKS THE POND THAT WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN THE KITCHEN, IT'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL VIEW.
UH, YOU, YOU KIND OF LIKE SOMEONE MY SIZE HAS TO GO SIDEWAYS TO GET PAST IT AND, YOU KNOW,
SO LET ME, UM, BRING YOU GUYS BACK TO THE, TO THE, TO THE POOL SECTION.
UM, SO YOU COULD SEE THAT BETTER.
HANG ON, LET ME BRING THAT BACK UP.
YOU, YOU'RE VERY GOOD WITH THIS.
WOULD YOU LIKE A PART-TIME JOB? UH, LISTEN, I'M UNQUALIFIED FOR THE JOB I HAVE.
SO THIS IS THE, THE, THE POND.
LOOK, WE GOT A REAL GOOD VIEW NOW.
SO THE ARCHITECT ALSO, I GUESS, WORKED WITH YOU, MATT, TO GET SOME MORE LANDSCAPING, UH, IN BETWEEN THE POND AND THE POOL.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UM, UH, TREE STRUCTURE.
LIKE THESE ARE THE PRESCRIBED, UH, PLANTS THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT IN IF, IF WE'RE GRANTED A, A, A, A POOL PERMIT.
UH, AND THEN THIS IS THE POOL RIGHT HERE.
WAIT, UH, SHARON NOW WE'LL COME BACK LATER SHARON, BUT PLEASE FOCUS ON THE PROPOSED PLANTING.
I, UH, SHARON IS, IS A MASTER GARDENER, SO SHE MAY HELP, MAY OR MAY NOT.
I JUST PLANTED 128 ARBOR ES AROUND THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
UM, TO, TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE PRIVATE.
I'M ON THE STREET, YOU KNOW, WORTHINGTON ROAD IS A STREET.
SO WHEN YOU'RE IN MY BACKYARD, THE, THE GENTLEMAN WHO BUILT THIS PROPERTY BUILT IT FOR HIS FAMILY.
SO MY NEIGHBORS, WHEN I'M HAVING A BARBECUE IN THE BACKYARD, I SHOULD INVITE THEM 'CAUSE THEY SIT ON THE FRONT PORCH.
I GOT A LITTLE KID, WE'RE ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER HERE.
SO I PUT SOME TREES AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GROW UP SOON TOO.
NOW THE POOL IS, YOU HAVE YOUR PROPOSED INGROUND POOL.
AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO, UM, IN, IN PORT OF VIEW WRITEUP, YOU SAID N NONE OF THE WATER WILL BE, UH, ANY, ANY WATER WILL BE TAKEN OFF SITE BY TRUCK.
AND WHERE'S, UH, NOW WHERE IS THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND? HOW DOES THAT LAY, COULD YOU ZOOM OUT AGAIN, SIR, AND SHOW EVERYBODY HOW THE TOPOGRAPHY LAYS? I, I'M NOT SURE IF IT, OR IF IT SHOWS IT VERY WELL, BUT THIS PORTION OF THE YARD RIGHT HERE WHERE THE POOL IS, RIGHT, THERE'S PROBABLY A, A SMALL DEGREE THAT STARTS AT THE STREET AND THEN RUNS DOWN THIS WAY.
WHICH WOULD BE, WE WOULD GRADE IT OUT AND MAKE IT LEVEL SO THAT WE COULD PUT, THIS IS A PRE-ENGINEERED POOL.
IT'S, YOU DIG A HOLE AND YOU PUT THE METAL IN.
IT'S NOT A A, A LINER POOL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PUMP THE WATER OUT ANYWAY.
IF WE HAVE, IF WE GET, UH, THE, THE PERMIT WATER GOING IN HAS TO COME BY TRUCK AND WATER GOING OUT, WOULD'VE TO GO BY TRUCK.
AND SO THE, UM, THE, UM, MITIGATION FOR THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ADDITIONS IS THE VEGETATION BETWEEN THE
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POOL AND THE POND.I, I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID TO ME.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? SURE.
I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
WHAT KIND OF POOL IS THIS? YOU SAY IT'S NOT A REGULAR INGROUND POOL? NO, IT'S ONE OF THOSE PRE-ENGINEERED POOLS.
YOU KNOW, YOU BUY 'EM, IT'S LIKE A STEEL BOX AND YOU PUT A LINER IN IT AND FILL IT WITH WATER.
IT'S, IT'S NOT A GUNITE POOL WHERE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, REALLY DIGGING DOWN AND, AND CHANGING THE, THE LANDSCAPER.
YOU COULD PULL IT IN AND OUT IF YOU WANT.
IS THIS, UM, WAS THE POND A NATURAL POND OR WAS IT A MANMADE POND? NO, THIS, THIS IS MANMADE.
THE WATER STARTS FROM BEHIND MY OLD HOUSE.
I USED TO LIVE ON WESTCHESTER VIEW.
AND THIS WATER GOES STRAIGHT DOWN FROM WESTCHESTER VIEW, CROSSES WORTHINGTON ROAD, UM, AND THEN, UH, CROSSES, UM, HUNDRED B HERE.
AND THEN AT THE, AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY HERE, LEMME JUST SHOW THIS TO YOU GUYS.
UM, THIS HERE, IT RUNS OFF THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AND CONTINUES THROUGH MY NEIGHBOR'S YARDS.
SO THIS IS SOME TYPE OF A RUNOFF.
I, I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT, BUT IT'S NOT A POND.
IT'S CATCH ALL THE WATER THAT RUNS FROM BLOCKS AWAY THROUGH THE, I JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE THE POND IN THE BACKYARD.
THEY BUILT IT TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE MORE AESTHETIC WHEN THEY, THIS IS ONE PROPERTY AND THEY SUBDIVIDED AND MADE IT FIVE PROPERTIES.
WELL, I, I WONDER WHAT HAS ENGINEERING SAID ABOUT THESE PLANS? UH, ENGINEERING HAS NOT HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE PLANS.
BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME YOU'VE GOT A MANMADE POND AND YOU ARE, YOU ARE TAKING AWAY SOME OF THE SUPPORT FOR THE POND WALL BY DIGGING A HOLE TO PUT IN A POOL.
AND I, I'VE, WHETHER THAT IS REALLY A GOOD THING TO DO, I KNOW THAT, UH, I HAVE A FILLED BACKYARD, AND WHEN I WAS THINKING OF PUTTING AT A POOL OR ENLARGING A POOL THAT'S BACK THERE, I WAS FACED WITH THE, THERE ARE, UH, PARTS OF THE CODE, WHICH I'M SORRY I DID NOT LOOK UP BEFORE THIS MEETING, THAT TALK ABOUT REMOVING SUPPORT FOR THE SIDE OF A POOL, OR HAVING TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SUPPORT FOR THE SIDE OF THE POOL.
SO I I DO HAVE YOU, DO YOU HAVE AN ENGINEER ON THIS? THROUGH THESE PLANS? THESE, THESE PLANS ARE DRAWN BY AN ENGINEER, AND THIS IS A, UH, STONE WALL RIGHT HERE THAT RUNS THE ENTIRE PERIMETER.
ALL WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, THIS OUTLINE, THAT'S ALL STONE.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT.
I GUESS THAT'S A MATT QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS EITHER.
IT'S JUST, IT'S A QUESTION THAT OCCURRED TO ME WHEN I LOOKED AT YOUR PLANS.
IT SAYS, YOU, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY, YOU'RE LEAVING HOW MANY FEET? I THINK 12 FEET BETWEEN THE POOL AND THE POND.
THE WHOLE LOT WE'RE GONNA DIG WILL, WILL BE REINFORCED.
SO IF ANYTHING WILL STRENGTHEN THAT WALL OF MY HUMBLE OPINION.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, I'M AN ENERGY GUY.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY BUSINESS IS, IS POWER, AND THAT'S WHAT I DO.
BUT WE'RE GONNA DIG THAT HOLE AND THAT HOLE WOULD'VE TO BE SUPPORTED.
AND, AND TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT BUILDING POOLS, BUT I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S LIKE BUILDING A HOUSE IN A HOLE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE, I THINK, CEMENT BLOCKS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SUPPORT TO HOLD THE EARTH AWAY FROM THE POOL, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE THE HEAVY WEIGHT OF THE WATER IN IT.
SO YOU, YOU, YOU'RE BUILDING AN ENFOR, UH, A WHAT IS IT? REINFORCED WALL.
BUT YOU'RE TAKING AWAY HOW, HOW, HOW WIDE IS THE POOL? 12 FEET.
I YOU HAVE AN ENGINEER WHO'S DOING IT? I BOW TO YES.
THESE ARE STAMP PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN? YES.
AND I BELIEVE PAT HAS DONE A SITE VISIT.
I TRIED TO GET HERE THAT DAY, MATT.
UM, I WALKED AROUND WHERE THE POOL WAS GONNA GO AND WHERE THE DECKS WERE GONNA GO, OR THE DECK CONDITIONS, I SHOULD SAY.
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YEAH, THERE'S A STONE WALL RUNNING THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT SIDE OF THE POND.UM, AND IT GENTLY SLOPES DOWN TOWARDS THE POND.
WELL, HOW, HOW, HOW BIG IS THE STONE WALL? IS THIS WHAT I'M, I SEE A PHOTOGRAPH.
IS THIS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE STONE WALL? IT SHOWS THE EDGE OF THE DECK AND THEN THE EDGE OF THE POOL, OF THE POND, RATHER.
SO THE PHOTOGRAPH IN THE STAFF REPORT IS GONNA BE THE ONE THAT SAYS, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE POND.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE STAFF REPORT IN FRONT OF ME, SO I'M NOT SURE WHICH NUMBER IT IS.
OR LETTER MIGHT BE THE FIRST ONE.
IT'S THE ONE THAT IS A, LOOKS LIKE A JUST LAWN AREA.
THE POND IS ON A, THAT'S A PROPOSED POOL LOCATION.
AND YOU CAN SEE, KIND OF SEE THE STONE WALL.
UM, IT'S, I SEE THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A VERY IMPRESSIVE STONE WALL.
IT'S NOT A VERY IMPRESSIVE STONE WALL, BUT IT'S NOT A VERY FAR DROP TO THE POND.
YEAH, THAT POND IS INDEED, IT'S LIKE, I THINK 24 OR 30 INCHES.
IT'S, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WATER.
IT JUST FLOWS OFF THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
IT CATCHES IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, IT ACTUALLY COMES IN FROM THE STREET.
I, IF YOU OVER HERE, UH, UH, THE, THERE'S A PIPE THAT COMES IN FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
IT GOES THROUGH THIS LITTLE THING.
I HAVE A LITTLE TO CONNECT MY PROPERTIES.
THERE'S A LITTLE BRIDGE OVER HERE, AND THEN THE WATER GOES IN.
I SAID IT LOOKS VERY ATTRACTIVE.
WELL, MATT, CAN WE SOLVE THIS BY SIMPLY, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A FAIR, IT'S A FAIR COMMENT THAT SHARED, ABSOLUTELY RAISED.
WE CAN SOLVE THIS BY PUTTING IN A CONDITION THAT, UH, THAT YOU CONSULT WITH, UM, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENGINEERING REGARD THE, UH, STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE WALL.
I CAN DEFINITELY, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH THEM, MAKE SURE, ASK THEM TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THAT.
I I WOULD FEEL BETTER, UH, UH, UH, UM, STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE, I I PAID TO COMPLICATE THINGS, BUT I, I WOULD REALLY FEEL BETTER IF, IF SOMEBODY ELSE LOOKED AT IT AND HAD HAD A, A MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE OPINION, EVEN THOUGH AN ENGINEER'S DONE IT.
THAT SHOULD BE, THAT SHOULD SPEAK FOR ITSELF, BUT IT'S OKAY.
SO, WE'LL, IT'LL BE THAT WE, THE SEED TO SEA CONSULT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENGINEERING, UM, REGARDING THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE, UH, THE SIDE OF THE POOL.
UM, ANY, UM, STORMWATER RUNOFF? UH, YEAH, WE DO BELIEVE THAT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF PLANTINGS, THE SLOPE OF THE LAND IN THAT AREA, AND, UH, WHAT PLANTS THEY'RE PLANTING DISTANCE, WE DO THINK IT'LL BE ADEQUATE TO FILTER OUT ANY, UH, STORMWATER RUNOFF, UM, FROM THE POND AND ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS THERE.
AND, AND, AND I RAN THE PLANTINGS BY, UH,
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FROM TERRY.
UH, LET'S, BUT LET'S GO AROUND AND, UM, SOMEONE WANNA COMMENT TO GEORGE OR NANCY? UH, YEAH, I DO.
I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IF, IF I MIGHT.
UM, SO LET'S, UH, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THIS BUMP OUT ON YOUR DECK.
THE, UH, THE TWO FOOT BUMP OUT.
CAN YOU TELL ME, IS THAT ON GROUND LEVEL OR IS THAT AT DECK LEVEL? IS THAT, UH, PROPOSED? SO THAT NO, THAT'S DECK LEVEL.
SO IS IT CANTILEVERED OR SUPPORTED WITH LEGS OR, UH, LISTEN, NOTHING HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT, IT'S ALL CONCEPT.
IF THE TOWN IS AMENABLE, WE'LL GO FOR IT.
IF THE TOWN IS NOT AMENABLE, WE'LL, WE'LL DRAW THE ENG ENGINE.
THE ARCHITECT THAT I HAD DRAW THIS, DREW IT SO THAT THE TOWN CAN REVIEW IT.
AND, AND IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO, TO THE TOWN HOW THEY WANT TO, UH, WORK WITH ME.
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IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO, WE WILL PROVIDE THOSE PLANS WITH THE DOCUMENTATION TO SAY HOW THAT'S GONNA BE ACHIEVED.I, AGAIN, I'M, I'M NOT THAT, I'M NOT A, A CONSTRUCTION PERSON, SO IT'S IN CONCEPT ONLY IF YOU, IF YOU'RE AMENABLE, WE'LL DO IT.
IF NOT, THEN THERE'S NO NEED TO PUT THE PLANS BEFORE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
WELL, WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYMORE.
I WAS ALSO WONDERING ABOUT, SORRY, MIKE.
SO, UM, THE EXISTING DECK, UM, ON THE WESTERLY SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT'S ON THE SIDE WITH THE WORTHINGTON ROAD, NOT ON THE SIDE OF YOUR, YOUR NEIGHBOR.
UH, DURING A SITE VISIT, IT, IT APPEARED TO ME THAT THERE'S WORK BEING DONE ON THAT EXISTING DECK.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY, UM, ANYTHING, UH, INDICATING WHAT WORK IT IS ON THESE PLANS.
I'M JUST REPLACING THE BOARDS THAT ARE BROKEN.
WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOME, THEY HAD SOME PRESSURE TREATED WOOD.
THEY HAD SOME OF THAT, UH, TREX STUFF.
THEY HAD SOME OTHER COMPOSITE MATERIAL THAT THERE'S HOLES IN IT.
I'M JUST REPLACING THE BROKEN BOARDS THAT ARE THERE, THAT ARE SPLINTERING RIGHT NOW.
SO, SO YOU'RE NOT DOING A BUILDUP ON THE WESTERLY PART OF THE EXISTING DECK? NO.
I'M, I'M JUST REPLACING THE DAMAGE.
SO THE STAIRS, LIKE, THERE'S THIS STAIRCASE, LET ME SEE THESE STAIRCASES RIGHT HERE THAT GO INTO THE, THE LITTLE BRIDGE.
YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE TO WALK ON IT CAREFULLY BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S DETACHED.
SO I HAVE MY, MY CARPENTER JUST REPLACING THE STEPS AND THE, THE RAIL, EVERYTHING THAT'S BROKEN, THAT'S NOT SAFE IS WHAT I'M REPLACING.
IT WAS JUST NOT CLEAR TO ME WHEN I, WHEN I SAW THE WORK AND NO THING.
ONE OTHER THING THAT WAS GOOD THAT MATT CAME OUT, I'M SORRY WE COULDN'T BE HERE THAT DAY, MATT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS PRETTY SELF-EVIDENT.
ALL WORK WAS DONE TO REPLACE, UH, IT WAS BEING DONE TO REPLACE, UM, E EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING BUILT AREAS.
UM, I DID JUST WANNA SAY, I SPOKE WITH, UH, ONE OF THE, UM, THE CONTRACTORS THERE.
AND, UH, SO I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE, THE DECK CONDITIONS AND HOW THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTED.
AND HE DID SAY THAT THEY WERE PLANNING ON DOING, UH, ADDITIONAL FOOTINGS.
UM, NOW THESE DECKS ARE, THEY'RE, UH, ELEVATED ABOVE THE POOL, UH, NOT POOL THE POND, EXCUSE ME, UM, BY A FEW FEET.
AND, UH, IT'S GONNA BE IN LIKE A, ALMOST LIKE A GRAVEL BED, IT LOOKS LIKE IN THAT AREA, UH, ALONG THE WALL.
UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE FAIRLY SEPARATED FROM THE POND.
UH, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SEC? BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF BACKGROUND NOISE, I THINK MAYBE.
SO, UM, DO I NEED TO REPEAT ANYTHING OR, OKAY.
NO, I DID HAVE ANOTHER, ANOTHER OBSERVATION WHEN I WAS ON SITE, UH, AND I SEE THERE ARE 42 TREES OR 46 TREES ALONG THE, THE FENCE.
YOU INDICATE THERE'S A, THERE'S A FENCE, UH, ON THE DRAWINGS, UH, ON THE WORTHINGTON ROAD.
BUT, UH, THERE'S NO MENTION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THOSE 42 TREES.
I THINK THE NORTHERN WHITE CEDARS, UH, DO YOU INTEND TO LEAVE THEM OR ARE THEY DOWN? THEY'RE, IS THAT THE SAME THING THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, WHAT DO THEY CALL THEM? GREEN GIANT ARBORVITAES.
IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IN THE FORTUNE TO PAY FOR
I HAD A FRIEND OF MINE WHOSE BROTHER'S A LANDSCAPE, UH, GUY IN PENNSYLVANIA.
I HAD 'EM SHIPPED IN FROM THERE.
THAT'S AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY NOW.
I, I, I OUTLINE THE ENTIRE, ENTIRE PROPERTY WITH THEY, THEY'RE THING THEN, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT
LISTEN, I, I WISH THEY WERE GROWN.
OR I PUT THE, THE ONES I GOT WERE ONLY FI I COULDN ONLY AFFORD FIVE FOOTERS.
LIKE THE, THE BIGGER THEY GET, THEY GET RIDICULOUS WITH THE NUMBERS.
THE ONES I PLANTED LAST YEAR WERE SEVEN FOOTERS.
I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW THEY GREW IN ONE YEAR.
SO YEAH, THAT ENTIRE SIDE, I'M TRYING TO BLOCK THE STREET, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE A POOL.
I DON'T LOOK SO GREAT IN THE BATHING SUIT.
NO, THE TREE, THE TREES LOOK VERY GOOD.
IT'S JUST THAT ON THE PLANS, THERE'S NO MENTION OF THEM.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YEAH.
THAT'S BECAUSE THIS PLAN WAS DRAWN BEFORE.
UM, I CAME UP WITH THAT, UH, BRAINIAC IDEA TO OUTLINE THE PROPERTY.
AND THE CH WHAT WE, WHAT MADE ME DO IS I HAVE A NEIGHBOR ON WHAT WESTCHESTER VIEW, HIS ENTIRE PROPERTY OUTLINED ON IT.
I SAID, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING FOR.
I MEAN, LIKE 18 FEET HIGH NOW, I, HE PLANTED ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I GOT THE IDEA FROM.
SO I PUT HIM IN AFTER I GOT THESE PLANS RUN BY FELIPE.
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MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S WHY I LOOK LIKE THIS.I JUST FINISHED WA IT TAKES AN HOUR AND A HALF TO WATER 'EM EVERY NIGHT.
LIZ, YOU, YOU HAD, UH, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? UM, I WAS CURIOUS WHAT ELSE MATT WAS GONNA SAY ABOUT THE FOOTINGS.
YOU WAS, YOU HAD STARTED TO SAY THEY WERE GOING INTO GRAVEL.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD ON TO THAT? I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THEY'RE, UM, ELEVATED ABOVE THE POND AND SEPARATED BY A RETAINING WALL.
UM, SO ANY RUNOFF WOULD BE FAIRLY SEPARATED FROM THE POND.
THE ONLY I WOULD ADD WITH PLAN THINGS, IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER ADDING SOME NATIVE GRASSES, I THINK THOSE MIGHT ALSO HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT WITH AARON.
BUT LIKE A SWITCH GRASS OR A BLUE STEM, IT LOOKS REALLY PRETTY WITH THE, SOME OF THE OTHER PLANTS YOU HAVE.
UM, WE, WE COULD ADD THOSE TO THIS NUMBER IF YOU WANT TO.
I, I LOVE THE, I LOVE THE TREES, SO WHATEVER YOU JUST WANT TO ADD, THAT'S GREAT.
ANOTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THOSE, THOSE GEESE, RIGHT? SO I WANT TO MAKE IT AS PRIVATE AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THOSE, THOSE GEESE COME IN EVERY DAY.
SO PLANTING'S, ACTUALLY, I HAD SEEN A, SOMEONE HAD DONE A, A STUDY, SOMEBODY WHO HAD LAWN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO A WATERFRONT WHERE THERE WERE GEESE.
AND THE GEESE WOULD COME UP ALL THE TIME.
AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE DID A, A BUNCH OF NATIVE PLANTINGS AND JUST LEFT A SMALL PATH TO THE WATERFRONT.
AND THE GEESE WON'T COME UP THROUGH THE PLANTS.
ANYTHING THAT'LL DIVERT THEIR ATTENTION.
'CAUSE LET ME TELL YOU, THEY'RE LOUD, THEY'RE NOISY A MESS.
IN THE MORNING, THAT'S WHAT WAKES ME UP BEFORE MY ALARM CLOCK.
THEY, THEY SHOW UP ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK.
LIZ, ANYTHING ELSE? LIZ? ANYTHING ELSE? NO.
UH, SHARON, ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE? SHARON? SHARON, CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF A MINUTE, YOU'D THINK AFTER TWO YEARS? I WOULD KNOW.
UM, TERRY'S COMMENTS WERE, I THINK ONE'S BEEN TWO HAVE BEEN ANSWERED ALREADY.
ONE, THE POOL WANTED TO BE CORDED OFF THE PROPERTY, AND, UH, THE APPLICANT'S ALREADY, UH, INDICATED THAT'S WHAT, UH, UM, HE, HE'S DOING.
UH, AND, UH, MAD, UH, THE SECOND OF TERRY'S COMMENTS WAS, UH, GRAVEL UNDER THE DECK.
IS THERE GRAVEL UNDER WHERE THE NEW DECKS WILL BE THAT YEAH.
ON, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE PICTURE C IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, THAT I TRIED TO GET, CAPTURE THAT PICTURE FROM WHERE THE JUT OUT WAS GONNA BE AROUND THE WINDOWS.
UM, LIKE THE, WHERE THE BUILDING JUTTED OUT THOSE TWO FEET.
AND IF YOU LOOK DOWN, UM, YOU'LL SEE WHAT LOOKS TO BE GRAVEL, UH, NEXT TO THE RETAINING WALL.
I CAN'T SEE THE PICTURE THAT PICTURES IT.
BUT SO YOU, THAT'S EITHER TAKEN CARE OF OR, OR THEY CAN, IF THEY NEED TO, THEY CAN EXTEND THE GRAVEL THAT'S THERE BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE THE GRAVEL.
AND THE OTHER OF TERRY'S COMMENTS WAS, UM, WE NORMALLY ON DECKS, UM, UH, UH, ASK AT THE, UM, UH, IS THE, WHAT'S THE FLOOR OF THE DECK GOING TO BE? IS IT GOING TO BE, WHAT'S IT? HUH? TREX? I, I'VE GOT, I GOT RID OF THE PRESSURE TREATED WOOD, AND I BOUGHT TREX TO REPLACE EVERYTHING.
THE TR THE TREX RAILING, TREX DECKING.
IT'S THAT COMPOSITE, NO MAINTENANCE, UH, MATERIAL.
DO THEY HAVE ANY SLITS BETWEEN THEM OR, UH, TO LET THE WATER FILTER DOWN OR, YEAH, IT'S ONE OF THOSE PRE-ENGINEERED THINGS, RIGHT? SO IT ACTUALLY COMES TOGETHER WITH ALL THE FASTS AND STUFF, AND IT MAKES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A JOINT, BUT IT MAKES LIKE A SPACE SO THAT WATER FLOWS THROUGH IT.
THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT TERRY HAD.
A ANYBODY UH, ELSE WANNA SAY ANYTHING? MATT? ANY CD AND C COMMENTS YOU WANT TO ADD? UH, NO.
UH, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ARCHITECT ABOUT THE, UM, LANDSCAPING AND WHATNOT, YOU KNOW, OUR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN
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ADDRESSED.UH, AND WHILE THE PLANTINGS AND SCREENINGS ALONG THE ROAD WEREN'T SHOWN ON THE PLANS, I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THEM, UH, WHEN I WENT TO THE SITE VISIT.
'CAUSE I WAS WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD WANT TO BUILD A POOL RIGHT NEXT TO A ROAD AND THEN NOT HAVE ANY SCREENING THERE.
BUT THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
SO, UM, OUR CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED.
AND MR. STEIN, IF YOU COULD SEND ME THE LIST OF ADDITIONAL PLANTS YOU THINK THAT ARE NATIVE TO THAT, THAT I, I HAPPY TO ADD IT TO THE PLAN.
UH, LIZ WILL SEND THAT TO MATT AND HE'LL FORWARD IT TO YOU.
AND IF THAT'LL AVOID THE GEESE, EVEN BETTER.
LIKE TO THE LENGTH OF THE, TO THE LENGTH OF THE ONE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO PROBLEM GOING DOWN THIS WHOLE LINE IF THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
ANYTHING TO KEEP THE GEESE AWAY? I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HORRIBLE.
DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT NICELY.
SO, UH, IF, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, SOMEONE WANNA MAKE, UH, A MOTION TO, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE, UM, THE CONDITIONS WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WE HAVE THE SCREEN BACK, PLEASE.
ALL IN FAVOR? UH, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UH, WHEN'S THIS ON, ON THE PLENTY BOARD, MATT? UH, SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK TO SCHEDULE IT, UH, FOR THE JULY 5TH, NOT JULY, JUNE 15TH, PLANNING BOARD MEETING, UH, ASSUMING THAT OUR JUNE 1ST MEETING GOES FINE, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT, THERE'S NOT A SUDDEN, UM, YOU KNOW, FILL UP OF THE SCHEDULE BEFOREHAND.
SO IT'S NOT ON THE JUNE 1ST, IT'S ON JUNE 15? NO.
SO YOU, YOU NEED, YOU NEED SOMETHING ON BY THE FRIDAY BEFOREHAND? YEAH, PREFERABLY, YEAH.
COMING, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION AND HELPING US OUT WITH THE, UH, THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME.
OKAY, NOW, UH, NEXT THING, I THINK, UH, UH, SOME MINUTES STUFF.
SO, UH, LET'S SEE, UM, MINUTES IS LIZ'S TURN.
BEFORE 28 MEETING, GEORGE, DID YOU ADD IN DONNA'S COMMENTS? THE SCREEN IS, ARE YOU GUYS FROZEN? DID I ADD IN DONNA'S COMMENTS? ON, ON, UH, UH, ON THE 4 28 MINUTES? I'M NOT SURE.
I THOUGHT WE HAD APPROVED THOSE.
WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CORRECTIONS.
WHAT WERE THE COMMENTS? I DON'T REMEMBER.
UH, UH, WHATEVER COMMENTS CAME MY WAY.
I'M SURE I UPDATED IT AT THE TIME, BUT I'M, I'M SORRY.
WELL, LET'S APPROVE THE, THE 4 28.
LET, LET'S APPROVE THE, THE 4 28 MINUTES, APRIL 28TH MINUTES.
UM, AND SUBJECT TO DONNA'S COMMENTS.
AND GEORGE WILL JUST CONFIRM CHECK BEFORE HE SENDS IT TO AARON, THAT, THAT DONNA'S COMMENTS ARE IN NOW.
SO WE'LL APPROVE IS SUBJECT TO A CONFIRMATION THAT DONNA'S COMMENTS ARE IN THE 4 28 MINUTES.
UM, UH, I, I CAN SEND THE REPORT ON THIS THING WE JUST DID TO, UH, TO, TO, TO MATT.
NOW, GEORGE, UH, CAN YOU GIVE US A REPORT PLEASE ON, UM, YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH AARON ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S A SYSTEM FOR INVENTORY AND WHAT'S TAKEN DOWN AND WHAT'S GOING BACK OR WHAT CONED IS DOING? UH, YES.
SO, UM, WELL, WELL, CONED, AS, AS YOU KNOW, THE, THEY, THEY ARE TAKING TREES DOWN BOTH IN THEIR ZONE AND ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
UM, I, THE SYSTEM AS, AS, UH, AS IS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, PROBABLY CAN USE SOME TWEAKING AND SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, THE BIG THING THAT I LEARNED IS, UH, IS THAT THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT PLAN IN EFFECT, RIGHT? ONE, IT JUST SIMPLY DOESN'T HAVE A, A REPLACEMENT PLAN.
UM, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS NOT EVEN REQUEST, I'M SORRY, WHO, WHO DOES NOT HAVE A REPLACEMENT PLAN.
CONED, CONED HAS NOT GIVEN A REPLACEMENT
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PLAN TO THE, TO THE TOWN.UH, D P W HAS NOT REQUESTED ONE.
UM, AND AARON IS GOING TO LOOK INTO, INTO THAT AND, AND GET A REPLACEMENT PLAN SEPARATELY.
YEAH, SEPARATELY, UH, CONED IS, UH, NOW AWARE THAT THEY HAVE TO OBTAIN A, A PERMIT FROM AARON, UH, BEFORE REMOVING ANY TREES FROM PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
SO, UM, I'VE ASKED AARON TO, TO TRACK QUANTIFY THOSE REQUESTS AS AS HE GOES FORWARD.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE HE'S GOING TO REQUIRE REPLACEMENTS, UH, UM, FOR ANYTHING, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SO THE QUESTION ALSO IS HOW DOES THE TOWN KEEP TRACK OF THE, THE LOCATIONS OF THE TREES? AND, UH, THAT'S ALL DONE THROUGH D P W APPARENTLY.
UM, CONED CONTACTS OUR HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, AND THEY, THEY DEAL SPECIFICALLY WITH THE FOREMAN OF, UH, OF OUR HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, WHOSE NAME I, I DON'T HAVE.
UM, AND WHAT CONED DOES IS THEY, THEY GIVE NOTICE THAT THE INTENT TO REMOVE A TREE THAT'S IN CONED RIGHT AWAY.
AND, UH, THEY GET THE GO AHEAD FROM THE, UH, HIGHWAY SUPERVISOR.
UM, I ASKED AARON IF IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO CONTACT THAT FOREMAN DIRECTLY.
UM, AND A AARON HAS, UM, REQUESTED THAT HE, THAT HE, AARON, BE OUR, OUR GO-BETWEEN MAN.
HE WANTS TO KEEP THAT CONTACT.
SO I JUST LET IT STAND AT THAT.
UM, SO THE SAME THING THEN WOULD HOLD TRUE FOR THE POINT MAN AT, UH, AT CONED.
AARON WILL, UH, WILL DEAL WITH THAT, THAT POINT, MAN.
UM, UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO, YOU KNOW, TALK WITH AARON AND, AND TRY TO GET DIRECT CONTACT, UH, THROUGH C A C WITH THE, UH, SUPERVISOR OF, OF OUR HIGHWAY.
UM, DID, DID YOU SEE AARON? AARON IS, WAS, I UNDERSTAND THAT CON EDISON DOES NOT HAVE REPLACEMENT PLAN.
DEPARTMENT OF OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS NOT REQUESTING ANY REPLANTINGS.
AARON IS GOING TO DO WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO.
WHAT ABOUT THE REPLANTINGS? UH, ON THE WELL GOING GO, GOING FORWARD, HE'S GOING TO REQUIRE THAT, UH, CON ED DO REPLACEMENTS FOR ANY TREES THAT THEY TAKE DOWN.
AND HE'LL QUANTIFY THAT AS, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO FORWARD.
SO, AARON'S GOING TO AARON? NO, ON, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE, UM, RIGHT OF WAYS.
AARON'S HAS TO DO THAT THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS, UH, PUT IT, UH, TO THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
THE FOREMAN, UH, AARON WANTS TO, UH, MAINTAIN CONTACT WITH THEM RATHER THAN, AND, AND WORK FOR US IN, IN, UH, DEALING WITH THE, IS THAT OKAY.
AND ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES THOUGH, CONED HAS TO GO THROUGH AARON PRIVATE PROPERTIES HAVE TO GO THROUGH AARON.
UM, SO LET ME SEE MY NOTES THAT SAID ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
UM, MOST OF THE REQUESTS, UH, FOR CONED TO REMOVE TREES FROM PRIVATE PROPERTY COME FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS THEMSELVES.
CONED GENERALLY DOESN'T GO LOOKING ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES TO, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY, ANYTHING THAT, THAT WOULD BEHOOVE THEM TO REMOVAL, ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES TREES HANGING, HANGING OVER.
SO OBVIOUSLY THEY APPROACH, SO WHAT CONED DOES IS THEY VISIT AND THEY ASSESS THE SITE, AND IF THE TREE REMOVAL IS REQUIRED, THEY, THEY'LL ADVISE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO CONTACT AARON.
UM, AARON HAS TO, UH, HE CAN, UH, OBTAIN THE, UM, THE PERMITS TO TAKE THE TREE DOWN.
BUT CONED DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE, THE PART OF THE BUSINESS PLAN IS TO, TO THROW IT OFF ON THE PROPERTY OWNER.
IF THE PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T APPROACH, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG, THEN THAT TREE MIGHT JUST SIT THERE UNTIL IT, IT COLLAPSES ON TOP OF THE WIRES.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THEY, THEY'RE TAKING THE INITIATIVE ON THE RIGHT, THEIR OWN RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEY'RE LETTING TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES, UH, SIT UNTIL THE PROPERTY OWNER APPROACHES THEM.
AND THEN THEY ASK PROPERTY OWNERS TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE AND GET THE PERMITS TO HAVE THE TREES REMOVED.
WHEN THAT HAPPENS, KEEP TRACK OF IT.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR REPLACING THE TREE AT THE CON? UH, ON, UH, ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY CONED OR THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER? I DON'T KNOW.
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I WOULD ANSWER THAT.I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY OWNER, I CAN ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT.
UM, I'VE HAD CON ED REMOVE TWO TREES.
ONE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY PRUNED IT, THEY KILLED IT AND IT BECAME A HAZARD.
AND THEN ANOTHER ONE, THERE WAS A, SOMEBODY IN THEIR INFINITE WISDOM PLANTED THE COLORADO SPRUCE THAT WAS, COULDN'T POSSIBLY, UH, ANYWAY, THEY, THEY WOULD COME TOP IT SO THAT BOTH TREES WERE REMOVED.
AND BOTH TIMES I REACHED OUT TO THE TOWN.
'CAUSE THE TOWN HAS A PROGRAM IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT, AND THEY WILL REPLACE THE TREES THAT CON ED REMOVED.
IT WAS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO REPLACE THE TREES.
AND WHO, WHO PLANTED THEM? UH, THE TOWN.
WHAT PART OF THE WAS THIS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS? WELL, WHEN YOU ASKED DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, THEY TELL YOU THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
BUT THEN IF YOU EMAIL AARON OR PARKS DEPARTMENT, THEN YOU, THROUGH PARKS, I BELIEVE IS HOW I GOT THE NEW TREE THROUGH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
AND THE PARKS HAS, HAS TREES OKAY.
THE BIG, THE BIG THING IS MIKE AND ALL, UM, THAT WE, I I, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW MANY TREES CON HAS CONED HAS TAKEN DOWN, BUT THE DATA IS AVAILABLE.
UM, AARON'S GONNA PUT THAT DATA TOGETHER.
I ASKED HIM TO GET IT TO US FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
BUT IT'S, IT'S ALL IN COUNTING PERMITS AND TALKING TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN, I GUESS, COMMITTEE ON BOTH, UH, CONED AND, AND D P W, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED, UH, WE NEED, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE ON THIS? YES, LIZ? I JUST HAD A THOUGHT.
SO, IF THE IDEA IS THAT WHEN CON ED REMOVES A TREE CON ED HAS TO REPLACE A TREE.
IF THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE A HOMEOWNER SAYS, WELL, I DON'T EVEN WANT A TREE, IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE THAT TREE PLANTED SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE TOWN? WELL, WELL WAIT A MINUTE.
IF IT'S ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY, LIZ, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION OF THE TOWN ON OUR TREE LAW.
THE TOWN, THAT IS NOT AN OPTION THE, UH, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER HAS.
OKAY, SO LET'S, LET'S NOT SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
I'D JUST LIKE TO GET MORE TREES
UM, THAT, THAT DOESN'T, THE TREE LAW SAYS THAT, UH, THAT YOU HAVE TO REPLACE AND IT REPLACEMENT IS ALMOST ALWAYS ON SITE, UNLESS THEY'RE VERY SERIOUS.
UM, UM, UM, ISSUES WITH, UH, SLOPES AND DEPTH OF SOIL.
UH, SO THAT PROBLEM, UM, MAY THAT'S COVERED IN SOME LENGTH IN, IN THE EXISTING TREE LAW.
UM, GEORGE, SHOULD WE ASK AARON IF HE COULD COME AND AFTER HE'S PUT STUFF TOGETHER, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY RUSH, BUT IN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME LATER IN THE SUMMER CAN COME GIVE US AN UPDATE? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
PARTICULARLY SINCE HE'S GATHERING THE, THE DATA FOR THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN DOWN IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
UM, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE A LOT OF QUESTION, PERHAPS SOME NEW INFORMATION, MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE HE CAN ADD ONE, ONE THING, TELL THAT THERE'S NO, YOU MEAN NO DEADLINE, YOU KNOW, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WHEN HE IS READY TO, WHEN HE IS COMFORTABLE THAT HE HAS ENOUGH, ENOUGH, AND, YOU KNOW, HE MAY NOT HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT PERFECT INFORMATION, BUT WHEN HE IS COMFORTABLE THAT HE'S GOT KIND OF THE BIG PICTURE, UH, YOU KNOW, AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE BIG UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED AND HOW IT'S ALL GOING TO GO PLAY OUT GOING FORWARD.
COME GIVE US A REPORT AT ONE MEETING.
I CAN, I CAN SPEAK WITH HIM ABOUT THAT.
GENERALLY, GENERALLY, I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT CONED REALIZES THAT THERE'S SOME OVERSIGHT HERE, THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED, THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'LL BE PAYING CLOSER ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY'RE TAKING DOWN AND QUANTIFYING WHAT THEY'VE TAKEN DOWN.
I SHOULD MENTION, I SHOULD MENTION THAT THE, UM, THE TREE REMOVAL IS SOMETHING WE CAN GATHER INFORMATION ON, BUT CONED ALSO DOES A LOT OF PRUNING AND THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO, NO RECORDS FOR THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT ARE PRUNED OR THE QUANTITY OF BRANCHES THAT ARE TAKEN DOWN OR ANY OF THAT SORT OF THING.
SO PRUNING IS, IS OFF THE TABLE UNLESS WE ASK, UM, AND, AND PRESSURE SOMEBODY TO, UM, TO CHANGE THAT, UH, PROCEDURE.
WELL, I THINK PAUL, WE OUGHT TO DO, MY SUGGESTION IS, UM, WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO GET A HANDLE ABOUT WHAT WE GOT NOW BEFORE, BEFORE EXPANDING IT.
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YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IT'S REALLY GREAT WHAT AARON'S GONNA BE DOING FOR YOU BECAUSE, UH, IT'D BE VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH TREES HAVE BEEN TAKEN DOWN THE LAST TWO YEARS.WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? MM-HMM.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, GEORGE, OF ANYTHING ABOUT HOW MANY TREES COME DOWN? NO.
I WAS HOPING TO, UH, TO HAVE SOME, UH, FOR THIS MEETING TONIGHT, BUT, UH, I WASN'T ABLE TO CONNECT WITH AARON TODAY AND HE WAS JUST GATHERING INFO.
YEAH, SO, SO YOU CAN JUST ASK AARON TO, TO, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THINK ABOUT WHEN HE COULD COME AND MEET WITH US AND GIVE US A REPORT ON WHAT'S HAPPENED AND WHAT, HOW, HOW THE PROCESS IS GONNA WORK GOING FORWARD.
AND, UM, I'LL, I'LL, AND THERE'S NO DEADLINE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO DEADLINE ON IT.
WHENEVER HE'S COMFORTABLE THAT HE, YOU KNOW, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PERFECT YOU AS TO HOW MANY TREES HAVE COME DOWN, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN HE GETS A ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WHAT THE PROCESS IS GOING FORWARD, UH, I'LL LET TERRY KNOW AND WE CAN PUT IT ON THE, UH, AGENDA.
YEAH, I'LL SPEAK WITH AARON THIS, THIS, UH, THIS COMING WEEK, IF NOT TOMORROW.
AND I'LL EMAIL THE GROUP WITH ANY NEW, UH, NEW INFORMATION WE HAVE ON THAT.
AND I'LL ASK HIM FOR, FOR ATTENDING AT THE END OF THE SUMMER OR WHENEVER.
AND YOU'RE COMFORTABLE THEN WITH AARON STAYING AS THE POINT MAN FOR WITH OUR HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT AND ALL.
ACTUALLY, WE SKIPPED TO, TO, UH, ACTUALLY SKIPPED 'CAUSE WE WENT, UM, LIZ, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT? NATIVE PLANTS OR PESTICIDE USE? SO, NATIVE PLANTS, QUICK UPDATE.
I, UH, SPOKE TO AARON, WHO WE ALL KNOW IS VERY INTERESTED.
HE HAD PREVIOUSLY REACHED OUT TO BOTH PARKS AND, UM, D P W I, AT HIS AND TERRY'S SUGGESTION, HAD A CONVERSATION WITH COMMISSIONER BYRNE OF PARKS, WHO IS, FEELS WE ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
HE, UM, HE HAD A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT WE DISCUSSED, AND HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING, UH, PROBABLY, UH, NEXT MONTH OR THE MONTH AFTER WITH ALL THE VARIOUS STAKE WITH ME, AARON, SOMEBODY FROM, UH, D P W, AND JUST TALK THROUGH REALISTICALLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
BUT HE'S INTERESTED IN, HE'S INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT IT.
WHAT, WHAT DID JERRY SAY WERE HIS, WERE THE ISSUES THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC? UM, WELL, SOME OF THE ISSUES FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ARE JUST EDUCATION AND UNDERSTANDING.
YOU KNOW, HIS IMMEDIATE REACTION WAS, WELL, IS THIS GONNA BE A LOT MORE WORK? WHAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE? I DON'T HAVE CREW.
AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM AND HE SAID, BECAUSE WE USUALLY PLANT ANNUALS, UM, AND NATIVES ARE PERENNIALS.
AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT THE BENEFIT OF NATIVES IS THAT THEY ARE LESS MAINTENANCE ONCE THEY'RE ESTABLISHED, THERE'S NO WATERING RIGHT PLAN, YOU KNOW, SO HE WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT.
SO I THINK A LOT OF IT IS EDUCATION.
HE WAS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE DO YOU SOURCE THE PLANS, WHICH IS DEFINITELY A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.
AND HE'S GOING TO REACH OUT TO, UM, UH, THE COUNTY TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE.
AND I'M SENDING HIM A FEW SOURCES THAT I KNOW OF AND, UH, MA MAINTENANCE AND STAFF AND, AND KNOWLEDGE FOR REALLY HIS, YOU KNOW, LACK OF A KNOWLEDGE WITH HIS STAFF, WERE HIS MAIN CONCERNS.
IS THE NATIVE PLANT CENTER, UM, ON YOUR, ON YOUR LIST OF, OF, UH, SOURCES FOR THE TOWN? NO, BECAUSE THEY MARK UP A LOT BECAUSE THEY'RE NONPROFITS, SO THEY'RE LOOKING, THEY DO IT AS A FUNDRAISER, BUT I SEE, I SEE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE SOURCING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S SOME ONLINE PLACES WHERE YOU BUY IN BULK AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT CROPPING UP.
THERE'S NOT A LOT IN WESTCHESTER, TO BE HONEST, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF ONLINE AND CONNECTICUT HAS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN BUY OUTTA STATE.
AND I AM CURIOUS WHERE THE COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE SOURCING.
I, I KNOW COUNTY WOULD BE, WHATCHA TRYING, EXCUSE ME.
WHATCHA TRYING TO SOURCE? WELL, UH, ULTIMATELY NATIVE.
SO SHARON, YOU WEREN'T HERE LAST TIME.
UM, DO YOU KNOW CAROL SUMMERFIELD, THE HEAD OF THE POLLINATOR? YES, I KNOW HER.
SO PAUL FINER INVITED CAROL AND, AND MEME, I THINK HER NAME AND WHO, WHO WAS THE TARRYTOWN POLLINATOR PATHWAY TO SPEAK AT PAUL FINDER
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ON PAUL FINDER'S RADIO SHOW ABOUT NATIVE PLANTS.AND THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO NATIVE PLANT GARDENS THAT HAVE GONE, THAT ARE, ONE WENT IN AT, UM, ANTHONY F VETERAN, ANOTHER ONE IS GOING IN AT, UM, IS IT CALLED HART BROOK IN HARTSDALE? HARTSBURG, YEAH, HARTS BROOK.
SO THEY WERE COMING ON TO TALK ABOUT THAT, AND HE ASKED THEM TO JUST TALK ABOUT NATIVE PLANTS AND TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IN GEORGE LATIMER SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER SAYING THAT ALL PLANTINGS GOING FORWARD ON COUNTY PROPERTY WILL BE NATIVE.
UM, AND PAUL FINDER'S VERY INTERESTED IN DOING THAT IN THE TOWN OF BLOOMBERG.
SO WHAT IS, YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND A SOURCE FOR NATIVE PLANTS? WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO ULTIMATELY HAVE A CODE FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG SAYING THAT NATIVE PLANTS WILL BE PLANTED ON TOWN PROPERTY.
SO I I'M, I'M SORRY, I'M JUST CONFUSED WHEN YOU WERE SAYING SOURCING.
I STILL DON'T, WELL THAT WAS ONE OF, ONE OF COMMISSIONER BURN'S CONCERNS IS, WELL, WHERE, WHERE DO YOU GET THESE PLANTS? OKAY, I GOT IT NOW.
I, LIZ, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY ABOUT PESTICIDE? I'M SORRY, I, I, I ASKED LIZ, UH, WHAT DID THAT I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING NOW.
I THINK SHARON, MAYBE IF YOU MUTE, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF BACKGROUND NOISE, HEAR BETTER.
SO PESTICIDE, UM, THAT IS GONNA BE A LOT OF, I'M NOT SURE I REALIZE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TERRY'S GOAL IS REGARDING PESTICIDES, IF SHE'S LOOKING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CODE OR SOMETHING.
BUT I, I DID FIND OUT THAT UNFORTUNATELY NEW YORK STATE REGULATIONS ARE THAT PREVENT ANY MUNICIPALITIES FROM HAVING THEIR OWN PESTICIDE LAWS.
YOU CAN HAVE AN EDUCATION PROGRAM TO TRY TO GENERATE AWARENESS.
I THINK, SHARON, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO MUTE 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF BACKGROUND NOISE, SO IT'S HARD TO
UM, SO I AM WORKING, AND GEORGE AND I ARE GONNA WORK TOGETHER.
I HAVE THE AMOUNT OF, OF STUDIES AND REPORTS LINKING PESTICIDES TO CANCER.
AND IN ADULTS, PETS, CHILDREN IS, IS OVERWHELMING THE AMOUNT THAT'S OUT THERE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT TERRY'S ULTIMATE GOAL IS WITH THIS INFORMATION, SO I HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH HER.
BUT ANY THOUGHTS? DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW MIKE? NO, JUST, JUST ASK TERRY.
I, I KNOW SHE HAS IT ON THE LIST FOR THIS AGENDA.
J JUST AN UPDATE FROM YOU, BUT YOU CAN, WHEN SHE GETS BACK, THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DISCUSS WITH HER.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE LAW? OR DO YOU HAVE A COPY OR, OR HAVE A CITATION TO THE NEW YORK STATE LAW THAT SAYS LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES CANNOT HAVE THEIR OWN, UM, PESTICIDE LAW? I CAN EMAIL THAT YEAH.
I'D LIKE TO READ, I MEAN, THAT EXISTS SOMETIMES.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE, THE STATE SAYS, YOU KNOW, NO ONE CAN HAVE A, UH, UH, WELL, THE TWO THINGS THAT SOMETIMES CAN HAPPEN, UM, MOST FREQUENTLY, LIZ, THE STATE WILL, IF THE STATE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT A LOCAL MUNICIPALITY CAN DO, I MEAN, MOST FREQUENTLY THEY'LL SAY ANYTHING LOCAL MUNICIPALITY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT TO.
IF THEY SAY ANYTHING MOST FREQUENTLY THEY SAY THE STATE CAN HAVE STANDARDS IN THIS AREA, BUT THEY CANNOT BE LESS LAX THAN THE STATE STANDARD.
OR A, A GOOD EXAMPLE IS THE ETHICS CODE.
UM, THERE'S A STATE ETHICS CODE, BUT MUNICIPALITIES CAN HAVE THEIR OWN LOCAL ETHICS CODES.
BUT THE LOCAL METH ETHIC, THE LOCAL ETHICS CODES CANNOT BE LESS LAX THAN THE STATE CODE.
SO THAT, SO MOST OF THE TIME THERE'S REALLY NO NOTHING IN THE STATE LAW ABOUT WHAT ADMINISTRATOR DO.
MOST FREQUENTLY WHEN THE STATE, WHEN THE STATE ADDRESSES THIS ISSUE, THEY SET THE STATE AS KIND OF THE MINIMUM STANDARD AND THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY CAN HAVE A STRICTER STANDARD.
AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD AREA WHERE THE STATE SAYS, WE'RE TOTALLY PREEMPTING THIS AREA.
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IN THIS AREA.UH, OUR LAW IS THE BE ALL AND END ALL THAT IS WHAT NEW YORK STATE HAS ACCORDING.
I'M NOT SAYING THEY DON'T, I JUST DON'T, I JUST LIKE TO YEAH, PREEMPTIVE.
I'M TRYING TO, I'LL SEND IT TO YOU, BUT BECAUSE OKAY, GOOD.
LET'S SEE WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
WHAT'S LEFT ON, UH, DID YOU WANNA GO AHEAD.
YOU REPORTED LIZ ON NATIVE PLANS AND PESTICIDE USE, AND YOU'LL GO FOLLOW UP WITH TERRY ABOUT PESTICIDE USE.
AND YOU'RE GONNA SEND ME NO RUSH A COPY OF, UH, THE PREEMPTION, STATE PREEMPTION, UH, GEORGE HAS REPORTED ON CONED TREE REMOVALS.
AND YOU'LL ASK AARON SOMETIME WHERE IT'S CONVENIENT TO COME, GIVE US AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED AND WHAT WE'RE DOING GOING FORWARD.
AND, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, UH, THE ONLY THING I GUESS I'VE GOT LEFT IS, UM, ELMWOOD, UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANNA BRING UP BEFORE I DISCUSS ELMWOOD A LITTLE BIT.
SO I THINK ON THERE, TERRY WANTED ME TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THE ENERGY SMART HOME CAMPAIGN.
I DIDN'T, DIDN'T MEAN TO PASS THAT.
AND THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH OF AN UPDATE.
THE CAMPAIGN OFFICIALLY ENDS JUNE 1ST, AND I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHERE WE STAND ON THIS.
UM, BECAUSE SUSTAINABLE, WESTCHESTER EXPLAINED TO ME THAT AFTER THE, THEY PASSED THE JUNE 1ST DEADLINE, THEY HAVE THEIR CONTRACTORS THAT THEY DEAL WITH AND THEN THE CONTRACTORS WILL FEED THEM, UM, ALL A LISTING OF ALL THE JOBS THAT THEY'VE DONE IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY IN THAT TIME PERIOD.
AND THEY WILL GO THROUGH AND FILTER OUT WHICH COMES FROM WHICH MUNICIPALITY AND DETERMINE, AND THEN FROM THERE DETERMINE IF WE'VE HIT ENOUGH TO QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT, WHICH I'M SKEPTICAL ABOUT.
BUT, 'CAUSE THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT ONE, UNLIKE GRID REWARDS, WHICH WAS SUPER EASY.
UM, BUT I AM WORKING WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER JACKSON AND, AND TASHA YOUNG ON AND, AND SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER WITH THE FAIRVIEW EMPOWERMENT GROUP TO, WHILE THIS WON'T LEAD TO A GRANT FOR THE TOWN, IT WILL LEAD TOWARDS SOME IMPROVEMENTS HOPEFULLY IN THAT, IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR, UM, WITH VARIOUS ENERGY.
THERE'S THE, THE STATE'S OFFERING VARIOUS ITEMS THAT YOU CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BASED ON YOUR INCOME LEVEL THAT ARE, THAT ARE FREE IF YOU QUALIFY.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN AT LEAST DO SOMETHING THERE.
JUST ONE THING, UH, LIZ, YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GINA JACKSON? I KNOW GINA JACKSON.
WHEN YOU SAY COMMISSIONER JACKSON YES.
OF, UH, THE THEODORE YOUNG? OH, NO.
ANY, ANYTHING, ANYONE ELSE? UH, NANCY, ANYTHING YOU WANNA, UH, SAY LAST TIME? LAST TIME I THINK I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UM, EXTENDER PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY BILL.
AND AT THIS MOMENT I THINK LIZ IS MORE ON TOP OF IT THAN I AM.
SO SHE MIGHT LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
BASICALLY THERE'S A, THERE'S A COMPETING BILL NOW, UM, WHICH IS NOT AS GOOD.
AND SO IF THERE ARE COMPETING BILLS, THEY COULDN'T POSSIBLY BOTH GET APPROVED, COULD THEY? OR COULD THEY? NO, IS UNLIKELY.
BUT, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO BILL BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE'S NOT IN NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE, UH, ADJOURNED FOR THE YEAR IN, UM, EARLY TO MID-JUNE.
NO, NO, THEY'RE STILL, NO, NO, NO, THEY'RE STILL, SO THE, THE TWO BILLS, UM, LET'S SEE THE TWO BILLS, UM, AT THIS LATE DATE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST ALL, IT'S ALL DIFFERENT.
MY GENERAL EXPERIENCE IS WHEN THE TWO BILLS AT THIS LATE DATE, NOTHING HAPPENS.
'CAUSE NO, WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE THAT SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN.
I, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD APPROVE BOTH, BUT I MEAN, THEY DO SOME WEIRD THINGS IN ALBANY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I HAD READ THAT AND TELL ME, 'CAUSE I I WAS JUST RESEARCHING IT ONLINE, BUT YOU PROBABLY, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN I DO THAT IF THE SENATE PASSES THEIR VERSION AND THE ASSEMBLY PASSES THEIR VERSION YEAH.
THAT THEN THERE'S A 30 DAY OR PERIOD WHERE THEY TRY AND NEGOTIATE AND COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT.
BUT THE ASSEMBLY IS ENDS, I I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP, BUT IN, IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, THE, THE WHOLE LEGISLATURE
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JUNE 2ND IS THE, IS THE, SO IF THEY EACH PASS THEIR BILLS BEFORE JUNE 2ND, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? AND THEY DON'T RECONCILE 'EM.AND THE SAME BILL DOESN'T GET PASSED BY BOTH THE SENATE AND THE ASSEMBLY.
AND THE, THE AND NEITHER OF THE COMPETING BILLS HAVE SPONSORS IN THE OPPOSITE HOUSES.
IS THAT, IS THAT I KNOW THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T.
SO, SO IF, IF, IF, IF THE SENATE PASSES, SOMETHING PASSES, LET'S SAY ON THE TOPIC OF, UH, DOING GOOD, THE SENATE PASSES, UH, YOU KNOW, A BILL, BILL A ON DOING GOOD, AND THE ASSEMBLY PASSES A BILL B ON DOING GOOD, IF THEY CAN GET IT RECONCILED AND THEY COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME COMPROMISE BILL, BILL C AND BOTH THE SENATE AND THE, AND THE ASSEMBLY PASSED IT BEFORE THE ASSEMBLY CLOSES FOR THE YEAR, THEN IT GOES TO GOVERNOR FOR SIGNATURE.
BUT SO IT HAS TO, THE RECONCILIATION HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE JUNE 2ND, YOU'RE SAYING? I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE DATE IS.
UH, IF SOMEONE GOT THE COMPUTER OPEN, UH, NANCY, YOU CAN THROW IT ON QUICKLY.
UH, UH WHEN DOES THE NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE ADJOURN? WE KNOW THAT IT'S JUNE TWO.
SO JUNE TWO IS LIKE NEXT TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY.
NEXT THEY WORK OVER THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND WHEN THEY'RE CLOSED.
THEY, THEY DO, THEY WORK VERY HARD.
THEY SHAKE AS MANY HANDS AS THEY CAN.
BUT I MEAN, ARE THEY, ARE THEY ALL IN ALBANY WORKING ON THIS OVER THE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND? OR ARE THEY JUST FIRST THING AND GOING HOME AND I, I, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT MY GUESS IS MOST OF 'EM ARE, ARE HOME WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS ON, FOR A PARADE ON MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND AND FOR PICNICS AND PARADES AND, YOU KNOW.
SO THEN HOW DOES ANYTHING GET DONE BY JUNE 2ND THAT ISN'T ALREADY DONE? YEAH, THE, YEAH, MY WIFE MICHELLE SAYING THE FIRST BARBECUE OF THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG POLITICAL DAY, MEMORIAL DAY.
THAT'S NOT VERY ENCOURAGING FOR THESE BILLS.
BUT ANYWAY, YOU DON'T WANT THESE BILLS TO HAPPEN ANYWAY, DO YOU? I DO WANT THEM, I WANT THE, THE ONE IN THE ASSEMBLY TO HAPPEN.
YOU WANT THE ASSEMBLY? IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO NANCY? HMM? YES.
WELL, UM, GIVE ME THE BILL NUMBER AND I'LL, I'LL ASK TOM WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, IT'S A ONE, A ONE IN THE ASSEMBLY IS A 1 0 180 5.
AND WHAT'S THE NAME OF IT? THE ONE IN THE, THE ONE IN THE SENATE IS ONE? NO, NO ONE.
THE SENATE EXTENDED PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY.
E P R, EXTENDED PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY ACT OR SOMETHING.
I HAVE MY NOTES IN THE OTHER ROOM.
NANCY, CAN YOU THROW UP, PLEASE GO TO GOOGLE.
PLEASE GO TO NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.
I CAN'T DO THIS 'CAUSE I, I I'M GONNA LOSE IT.
BUT IF I TRY TO DO THIS, YOU'LL FIND SOMETHING WITH IT AND, AND PUT IN THIS BILL NUMBER AND YOU'RE GONNA GET SOMETHING THAT SHOWS ITS HISTORY.
THE ASSEMBLY HAS ACTUALLY GOT A BETTER WEBSITE ON THIS THAN THE SENATE HOUSE.
JUST PUT IN, CAN YOU READ THE NUMBER BACK TO ME AGAIN? 1 0 180 5 NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.
AND JUST YOU, YOU'LL FIND SOMETHING WE GO, IT TALKS ABOUT, YEAH.
WHAT DOES THIS SAY? HAS IT PASSED THE ASSEMBLY? UH, LET'S SEE.
HISTORY, CURRENT, CURRENT BILL STATUS IN ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE.
WELL, HMM, WELL IT'S, IT WAS, UM, CURRENT COMMITTEE ASSEMBLY, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION.
UM, SO, SO IT HASN'T PASSED THE ASSEMBLY YET? IT HASN'T GOTTEN OUTTA COMMITTEE YET.
IT HASN'T GOTTEN OUT OF COMMITTEE.
MY GUESS IS THIS IS, THIS IS A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, LOW PROBABILITY IF IT'S NOT
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EVEN OUTTA COMMITTEE.I THINK HE WAS LATE TO GET THIS BILL PROPOSED IT, IT'S GOTTA GET TO THE FLOOR, GOTTA GET TO THE FLOOR OF, UM, OF, UM, OF THE ASSEMBLY TO GET VOTED ON.
AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, THIS, I I'M NOT, I MEAN, OF COURSE THERE ALWAYS MISTAKES, BUT I FOUND THE ASSEMBLY WEBSITE'S BEEN PRETTY ACCURATE ON THINGS I'VE TRACKED.
SO IT'S IN COMMITTEE AND IT'S NOT EVEN BEEN APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE, SO IT'S NOT IN THE ASSEMBLY YET.
I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE, BUT I'M SURE THE WEBSITE DOES NOT LIE.
WELL, I, I'LL, I'LL SEND AN EMAIL TO, TO TOM AND ASK HIM, DO YOU KNOW THE STATUS OF THIS, UM, THAT THE MANY PEOPLE IN THE C A C THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS, IN THIS BILL? UM, YOU KNOW, SEE IF, SEE IF I GET AN ANSWER THOUGH, MY GUESS IS THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T COME BACK AGAIN TILL, TILL JANUARY.
SO IF IT, NOTHING HAPPENS WITH IT NOW, WHEN THEY COME BACK IN JANUARY, THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING THE, THE FIGHT FROM STARTING UP AGAIN TO, UH, I, I'D HAVE TO THE, IT'S BIZARRE THAT THE SESSIONS OF THE LEGISLATURE ARE TWO YEARS, LIZ UHHUH
MY GUESS, THEN IT'S GOTTA BE REINTRODUCED IN JANUARY.
IF WE WERE IN THE, IF THIS WAS THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE FIRST YEAR OF THE TWO YEAR SESSION, THEN THE BILL WOULD CARRY OVER.
BUT WITH THE HIGH NUMBER 10,185, IT'S PROBABLY, WE'RE IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE TWO YEAR SESSION.
SO SOMEONE'S GOTTA REINTRODUCE IT.
WHICH, WHICH IS NORMALLY NOT A PROBLEM.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'LL, IT'LL COME BACK WITH A, WITH A NEW LIFE AND A LOWER NUMBER.
I, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SEND AN EMAIL TO TOM AND SEE, BUT, UH, DOES ANYONE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE REDONE THE CONGRESSIONAL VOTING, UM, MAPS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WERE, UH, YOU KNOW, JERED TO GET A PARTICULAR POLITICAL RESULT AND THE JUDGE APPOINTED A SPECIAL MASTER, AND NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CONGRESSIONAL MAPS HAVE BEEN, UH, REDONE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHETHER THE MAPS FOR THE SENATE AND THE ASSEMBLY HAVE BEEN REDONE OR WHETHER THE ORIGINAL MAPS OR, OR, UH, STILL THE, ARE STILL VALID? I DUNNO, BECAUSE TOM IS OUR, TOM ADI IS, IS OUR PRESENT ASSEMBLYMAN.
BUT UNDER THE NEW MAP, THE LAST THAT I EVER I HEARD ABOUT, HE NO LONGER IS.
AND WE HAVE THE SAME PERSON THAT, UH, DALE HAS.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THIS MAP IS, IS STILL, IS, IS VALID OR WHETHER OH, RIGHT.
IF WE GET, I FORGET HER NAME NOW.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I KNOW THE CONGRESSIONAL MAPS, UH, YOU FOR, FOR YOU, FOR US REPRESENTATIVES THAT HAS BEEN REDONE BY A SPECIAL MASTER UNDER SUPERVISION OF THE COURT AND THE COURT TO APPROVE THAT.
UH, OUR CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, 17, MOST, MOST OF US ARE IN 17, HAS NOT CHANGED MUCH.
BUT, UH, UH, MOND JONES, WHO IS OUR CONGRESSMAN, IS, UH, THINKING OF GOING INTO, UH, I THINK DISTRICT TWO RUNNING FOR, UH, CONGRESS IN DISTRICT TWO DOWN IN THE CITY.
SO WE MAY HAVE A CHANGE OF, UH, WE WERE, WE'RE 16, MIKE AND I ARE 16 AND NANCY.
UH, IF, IF YOU'RE IN 16, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING CHANGES.
BUT IF YOU'RE IN 17, IT'S GONNA GO TO, UH, MAHONEY UP IN, UM, BEDFORD OR MOUNT KISCO, BECAUSE MONELL WASN'T GONNA RUN AGAINST HIM.
AND APPARENTLY THE LAW IS, I FOUND THIS BIZARRE, BUT APPARENTLY THE LAW IS YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN THE STATE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT, BUT I, I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE LAW IS.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO ELWOOD? UH, MATT, CAN YOU,
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UH, ARE, CAN YOU HEAR? YEAH, I'M STILL HERE.UM, WELL, I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ELMWOOD, BUT IF I OFF TRACK, BECAUSE WHAT I KNOW IS SKETCHY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, PLEASE CORRECT IT.
UM, I THINK AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, YOU KNOW, THE C A C AND THE PLANNING BOARD ISSUED FORMAL REPORTS ON THE, UH, PROPOSAL OF, UM, OF, UM, THE OWN, THE DEVELOPER THAT OWNS THE ELM, THE FORMER ELMWOOD GOLF COURSE, AND THE C A C SAID, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REPORT AI REPORTS LIKE 15, 20 PAGES.
YOU KNOW, WE PREFERRED, UH, 113 SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES BECAUSE IT MAINTAINED DENSITY, UH, AND ALL AND DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT CAME, UM, WHEN YOU INCREASED DENSITY AND ALSO IF YOU HAD TOWNHOUSES, YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE THE CAPITALIZED VALUE OF THE CAPITALIZED NEGATIVE VALUE TO THE TOWN OF TOWNHOUSES VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, HOUSES WAS $105 MILLION BASED ON, UM, ON, ON MARGARET'S, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER A CAPITALIZED VALUE OF THE TAX DIFFERENTIAL.
UM, NOW THEY HAVE COME IN WITH A NEW PROPOSAL, OR IT HASN'T ACTUALLY, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT HAS NOT BEEN FILED YET.
IS THAT RIGHT, MATT? THE NEW PROPOSAL HAS NOT BEEN FILED.
UM, I HAVEN'T BEEN TOO INVOLVED, BUT I'VE HEARD THROUGH OSMOSIS, ESSENTIALLY
AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND OR NOTHING'S IN WRITING YET, IS THAT THERE WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ON THE GOLF COURSE.
THERE WOULD BE NO ZONING AMENDMENT THAT WOULD CHANGE OUR ZONING LAWS.
THERE WOULD BE NO INCREASE IN DENSITY.
THE TOWN WOULD BE GIVEN 14 ACRES TO USE FOR RECREATION LAND, WHERE IN THE PAST THE DEVELOPERS SAID THE TOWN WOULD ONLY GET 14 ACRES IF HE COULD DO TOWNHOUSES.
BUT THIS WOULD BE, UM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, UH, NO INCREASE IN DENSITY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE NUMBERS 113 OR 119, BECAUSE I THINK THEY COULD GO TO 119 WITHOUT INCREASING DENSITY.
BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ESSENTIALLY A, UH, SINGLE, NOT, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE RESIDENTS AT COMPLAIN TO TOWN BOARD.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU, WE DON'T WANT THE TOWNHOUSES.
UH, THE DENSITY WON'T BE INCREASED.
THERE WON'T BE A PRECEDENT FOR INCREASING DENSITY.
AND, UM, UH, WE'LL GET THE PARK LANDS THAT, UH, THE, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF PARK LANDS IS 14 ACRES.
OH, AND, AND THE, AND THE WETLANDS AND STEEP SLOPES WILL WE PUT INTO A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
SO THE LOTS WILL BE KIND OF MORE SQUASHED TOGETHER, BUT THERE'LL BE A CONSERVATION, THERE'LL BE OPEN SPACE WITH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT CAN NEVER BE DEVELOPED.
THOSE ARE THE PRINCIPLE THINGS I'VE HEARD.
AND DO YOU, HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ELSE OR IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM ANYTHING YOU'VE HEARD, MATT, OR YOU'VE HEARD OTHER THINGS? THAT'S GENERALLY IN LINE WITH WHAT I'VE GATHERED.
UM, YOU KNOW, INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF LAND GIVEN FOR PARK WHILE STILL KEEPING THE SINGLE FAMILY.
AND I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE ONE 13 BECAUSE THE AREA GIVEN FOR THE PARK WOULD'VE BEEN WHERE THOSE SIX HOMES WOULD GO FOR THE ONE 19.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE THE ONE 13.
NOTHING HAS BEEN, UM, UH, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH, UH, UH, WITH GARRETT.
AND GARRETT GAVE A REPORT ON THIS IN IT'S PUBLIC TO THE, UH, TOWN BOARD AT A WORK SESSION.
AND, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, NOTHING'S BEEN IN WRITING.
AND THEY, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO FILE AN AMENDED APPLICATION.
AND, UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT,
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UM, ONCE THEY FINALLY FILE SOMETHING, THE TOWN BOARD AND THE C A C WILL BE ASKED AGAIN, UH, TO, TO LOOK AT THE AMENDMENT AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS.AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT BY SEVERAL TOWN OFFICIALS.
SO, UM, PRESUME THAT'S THE CASE.
AND I GUESS WE WILL, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, GARRETT, GARRETT WANTS TO COME AND DESCRIBE IT TO THE C A C.
AND SO I TOLD GARRETT HE COULD COME TONIGHT OR HE COULD COME IN TWO WEEKS OR, OR IF NEED BE, WE COULD EVEN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING THAT, THAT WE'D OBVIOUSLY BE VERY INTERESTED IN, IN HEARING THIS NEW PROPOSAL, WHICH SEEMS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY VERY CONSTRUCTIVE.
AND, UH, WE'D, WE'D ACCOMMODATE, UH, UH, GARRETT'S SCHEDULE.
AND THAT'S, UH, TO ACCURATE, MIKE, WHAT WHAT YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED IS ACCURATE.
OH, HEY, KEN
UM, SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO, TO, TO THAT, UH, KEN THAT WANTED JUST, UH, UH, NO, ACTUALLY WHAT, WHAT YOU AND MATT DESCRIBED IS, IS A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE.
SO, UH, WHEN IS, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHEN GARRETT CAN COME AND THEN IT'LL GO BACK.
UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UH, THEN AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, P BOARD GAVE A REPORT.
UH, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL BE ASKED TO LOOK AT IT, THE P BOARD BE ASKED TO LOOK AT IT, AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO HAVE A HEARING.
AND, UH, BUT IT SEEMS VERY, IT SEEMS POTENTIALLY VERY CONSTRUCTIVE THOUGH.
UH, NO ONE HAS REALLY SEEN ANYTHING, UM, IN WRITING IT.
UM, WE, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE, WHICH HOPEFULLY CAN GET SOLVED OF THE TAXES, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF AFTER, BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS TONIGHT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M WORKING ON THIS WITH A COUPLE OF THE FOLKS, BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, UM, THE PRESENT DEVELOPER IS GOING TO FLIP THE PROPERTY TO SOMEONE NEW TO SAY, FLIPS ITS TOLL BROTHERS OR THE X Y, Z DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN THEY SIDE, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO, THEY WANNA BUILD IT OUT AS CONDOS.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, NOTHING THAT WE DO WITH THE PRESENT DEVELOPER, THERE'S SOME EXTRA STEPS, BINDS THE NEW PURCHASER.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO THINK ABOUT.
AND THE SECOND ISSUE IS, UM, EVEN IF IT'S SOLD INITIALLY AS, YOU KNOW, NORMAL ORDINARY HOMES, WHAT IF, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THERE'S A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION'S GONNA CARE FOR THE, UH, UM, CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
UM, AND, UH, UH, AND, UH, 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THERE NEEDS TO BE MAINTENANCE, EVEN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
AND, UM, SO WHAT, HAVING A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE HOMES IN THAT AREA GET TOGETHER AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A CONDO? UH, 'CAUSE WE'LL PAY LESS TAXES.
NOW WE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID OVER IN DOBBS FERRY.
NOW WE HAVE A LOCAL LAW THAT SAYS, IF YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY BEEN TAXED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND YOU SWITCH TO CONDOS, UH, YOU DON'T GET THE TAX BENEFIT OF BEING A CONDO.
A COUPLE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THE LAW.
I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW THE NUMBERS, BUT THERE'S NO CASE ON POINT.
AND I'VE HEARD ONE MEMBER OF THE TOWN LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAY THERE'S NO CASE THAT HE KNOWS OF, UM, UM, THAT SAYS THAT'S LEGAL BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ISSUE OF NEW YORK STATE'S GOT A CONDO LAW, AND THERE'S CERTAIN POLICIES, PUBLIC POLICIES THAT ARE EMBODIED IN WHY THE NEW YORK STATE HAS A CONDO LAW.
AND, UH, IF ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SAY PEOPLE CAN'T DO CONDOS, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THE RIGHTS THAT, UM, UH, UH, ARGUABLY YOU'RE TAKING AWAY RIGHTS.
THE NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE SAYS RESIDENTS OUGHT TO HAVE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I SUGGESTED IS THAT WE GET AN OPINION FROM EITHER THE NEW YORK STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL OR THE NEW YORK CONTROLLER, THAT OUR LOCAL LAW WORKS, BECAUSE THE TAX DIFFERENTIAL IS JUST, YOU KNOW, GIGANTIC.
UM, UM, UH, LAST TIME WE WENT THROUGH THIS MORTGAGE, DID THE NUMBERS, IT WAS $105 MILLION IS THE TAX DIFFERENTIAL AS TO WHETHER THESE THINGS ARE TAXED AS SINGLE
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FAMILY HOUSES OR TAXES, CONDOS.AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH OUR LOCAL LAW, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S NEVER BEEN TESTED IN COURT.
AND THERE CERTAINLY IS A, A, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST CONCEPTUALLY AN ISSUE OF, WELL, YOU REALLY ARE TAKING RIGHTS AWAY FROM PEOPLE.
THE NEW YORK STATE SAYS THEY CAN, THEY CAN FORM A CONDUCT, AND YOU'RE TELLING 'EM IF THEY CAN'T.
SO, UM, THIS, YOU KNOW, I, I'M KIND OF OPTIMISTIC THIS CAN ALL GET WORKED OUT AND, UH, UM, BUT IT, IT'LL REQUIRE SOME WORK.
AND PRESUMABLY WE CAN'T BE INVOLVED IN THAT, UH, UH, THOSE, THOSE TYPES OF ANALYSIS TOO.
SO, WELL, WE HAVE, WE'VE ASKED THE LEGISLATURE FOR A HOME RULE RULING THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.
UM, AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THAT, THAT IT, THAT IT WILL PASS BEFORE THE END OF THE TERM.
SO THAT WOULD BE FURTHER, UH, FURTHER PROTECTION FOR US IN, IN, IN, IN SUCH A SITUATION.
AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT, KEN, IF WE CAN GET A SPECIAL, UH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'LL BE A LAW THAT DOESN'T RELATE STATEWIDE, JUST TO GREENBERG CORRECT.
IT SAYS GREENBERG COULD SAY, UM, YOU CAN'T DO THIS
AND, AND PRESUMABLY THIS, I, I SENT PAUL AN EMAIL, UM, THAT SAYS, PRESUMABLY IT'S ONLY GONNA BE FOR NEW CONDOS.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU CHANGE THE TAX STRUCTURE OF PEOPLE EXISTING, THEN THAT'S A REAL POLITICAL ISSUE, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOTTA BE DONE IN ONE WEEK.
SO, UH, SENATOR STEWART COUSINS THAT SHE INTRODUCED IT, SHE, YEAH, SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT TODAY, I BELIEVE, OR YESTERDAY.
SOMEONE'S GONNA PICK IT UP AND AND TOM'S GONNA DO IT IN THE ASSEMBLY.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD, UM, UM,
AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE, THIS IS A, UH, DID YOU SEE THE ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES ABOUT THE GREENBERG C A C, KEN? NO, I DIDN'T.
SOMEONE WROTE AN ARTICLE ABOUT GOLF COURSES GETTING CONVERTED AND TALKED ABOUT ELMWOOD MM-HMM.
SO I, I'LL SEND, I'LL SEND IT.
IT WAS IN THE, I THINK YESTERDAY IN THE NEW YORK TIMES BUSINESS SECTION.
HUGH CALLED ME AND TOLD ME ABOUT IT.
SO I'LL SEND IT OUT A COPY TO YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE TOWN? UM, PERSPECTIVE? UM, I, I, I WANTED TO MENTION WITH REGARD TO THE LEAF BLOWER, UH, PROPOSED LEGISLATION, WE ARE GETTING CLOSER.
UH, WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING LAST NIGHT.
WE ARE GOING TO MEET, UM, WHETHER AT A WORK SESSION OR A SPECIAL MEETING TO TRY AND HAMMER OUT, UH, SOME DETAILS.
UM, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH LEANING TOWARD, UH, BANNING ALL BLOWERS FOR ALL, BUT, UH, ALL BUT TO TWO DAY, UH, FOR, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BANNING ALL BLOWERS.
WE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BANNING ALL BLOWERS, UM, FOR AT LEAST TWO DAYS A WEEK.
UM, LIMITING THE TIMEFRAME WITHIN WHICH BLOWERS CAN BE USED THE REST OF THE DAYS DURING THE WEEK TO BETWEEN, UH, SIX, I THINK IT'S,
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UH, AN EIGHT HOUR PERIOD DURING THE WEEK AND A SIX HOUR PERIOD ON THE WEEKEND.1 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, UH, NO, A FOUR, FIVE HOUR PERIOD ON THE WEEKEND.
UM, AND, OR MAYBE IT'S A FOUR HOUR PERIOD, 12 1 2, A FOUR HOUR PERIOD ON THE, ON THE WEEKEND DAYS.
UM, AND, UM, STARTING OUT WITH A TRIAL RUN THAT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT LESS THAN A YEAR TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW THE COMMUNITY RESPONDS TO IT.
UM, THOSE, THAT, THAT'S SORT OF THE BROAD STROKES OF HOW WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT AFTER, UH, THE SECOND OR THE THIRD, UH, CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING LAST NIGHT.
AND, UM, WE REALIZE THAT NO ONE'S REALLY GONNA BE HAPPY WITH THE RESULT, BUT WE ARE REALLY TIRED OF, OF KICKING THIS BALL AROUND AND WANNA PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE SO THAT, UH, THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT IT.
AND PEOPLE START TO THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT, UM, WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR YARDS AND WHEN THEY DO IT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIALLY AS WELL.
OH, THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR, UH, FOR
SO YOU, IT'S THE, THE KIND OF, THE CORE FEATURES ARE ALL BLOWERS BE BANNED FOR AT LEAST TWO DAYS A WEEK.
AND, AND, AND MAYBE POSSIBLY MORE, BUT I DON'T KNOW, UH, LIMITED TIME ON THE DAYS BELOWS CAN BE USED, LIMITED TIMEFRAME.
IT CAN BE USED FOR EIGHT HOURS DOING WEEKDAYS AND FOUR HOURS ON WEEKENDS.
AND A TRIAL RUN FOR LESS THAN A YEAR.
UH, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT THE CAC TO DO, TO DO, OR NOT? NOT YET.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE COME UP WITH OUR, WITH WHAT, WITH OUR FINAL DRAFT, UM, WE'LL RUN THAT THROUGH YOU AND WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE JUST, JUST SEND IT TO, TO, TO ME OR TERRY EITHER.
TERRY IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, SHE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.
WE EITHER SEND TO TERRY OR ME AND WE'LL SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
AND WHAT ELSE? UH, UH, KEN, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE WAS, WAS WE'VE THE ELMWOOD DISCUSSION AND THE, AND THE LEAF BLOWER DISCUSSION.
UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR KEN? NO.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND THANKS FOR TELLING US WHAT YOU'VE TOLD US.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE? UH, GEORGE, UH, NANCY, SHARON.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR PARTICIPATING.
AND WE WILL, UM, OH, WE HAVE TO SET OUR NEXT MEETING.
OUR NEXT MEETING IS WHAT? UH, LET'S SEE, UH, JUNE NINE.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT, UH, YEP.
JUNE NINE IS OUR NEXT MEETING.