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SO, UM, DO WE WANT TO HAVE A REPORT FIRST ON, UM, UH, THE LEON TALLY RAND, UM, STREET STEIN? FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT LEON TALLY, RAND
WELL MAKE SURE WE GET THE SIGN CORRECTLY.
UM, AND WE, WE ALL WENT AND VISITED THE SITE AT 75 WORTHINGTON ROAD AND, UM, WITH, UH, MS. ZUBER, AND I THINK WE'RE OF COMMON CONSENSUS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SEE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, THE PERFECT, SEE THE, AND IT'S RIGHT THERE WHERE HE LIVED.
THE SIGN WILL BE VISIBLE FROM HIS, UH, ENTRANCE TO HIS DRIVEWAY.
SO WE ALSO FOUND A LITTLE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, REPORT.
SO WE COULDN'T JUST TAKE A PICTURE AND SEND IT AND SAY, THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
WE'RE LIKE, WHERE'S PAUL
SO YOU GUYS SHOULD COME UP TO THE TABLE.
COLBY, TURN YOUR MIC IN CASE YOU SEE THE BUTTON.
NOT THAT YOUR VOICE DOESN'T CARRY.
AND SO, SO FRANCIS, YOU WANNA LEAD THE CHARGE.
SO, UH, FIRST I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS EXTRAORDINARY.
'CAUSE NORMALLY THE TOWN BOARD DOES NOT NEGOTIATE WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THE BOARD WITH A CONTRACT.
SO WE'RE DOING SOMETHING UNUSUAL.
THE INITIAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD, UM, WHICH I GUESS WAS WITH A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY THAT, UM, THAT THE TOWN BOARD UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED ON MAY 11TH.
UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT THERE SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN, UH, EVERYTH EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE PROPOSAL.
UH, YOU MIND IF I CALL YOU BOB
UM, THAT BOB PUT IN WAS LANGUAGE THAT WAS SENT TO THE TOWN BOARD FROM WHOEVER THE OTHER ATTORNEY WAS, UM, THAT WE AGREED TO.
SO EVERY ONE OF THE CHANGED SECTIONS, THE SECTIONS THAT YOU WANT CHANGED WAS ALREADY GIVEN TO US FROM WHOEVER THE PREVIOUS ATTORNEY WAS, AND WE AGREED TO.
NOW, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T AGREE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, A DOLLAR, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF, OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THE THINGS THAT WE DID AGREE TO ARE IN THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU SENT US THAT YOU WANT SOME MODIFICATIONS, SOME OF, SOME OF WHICH, YOU KNOW, MAKE, MAKE SENSE.
UM, BUT I, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO THE OTHER ATTORNEY WAS.
IT, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE OTHER ATTORNEY WAS THAT WAS THAT DID THE UNDERLINE AND STRIKEOUTS ON THE PREVIOUS VERSION.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE PREVIOUS VERSION.
UH, BUT THERE WAS A PREVIOUS VERSION THAT UNDERLINED IN STRIKEOUTS TO IT.
THE TOWN BOARD WENT THROUGH IT.
UM, BUT SOME THINGS WE JUST, WE JUST COULDN'T AGREE TO.
AND THE PREVIOUS VERSION, IT WANTED TO TAKE OUT THE NEED FOR AUTOMOBILE INSUR, UH, INSURANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THE FARMER'S MARKET'S IN A PARKING LOT.
SO WE DIDN'T AGREE TO TAKE THAT OUT.
SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS, THERE WERE ISSUES LIKE THAT.
UH, BUT NOW YOU ARE, YOU'RE ON BOARD, YOU'RE LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR CLIENT AND THE, UM, AND SO THE D B A SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE.
I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT THE AGREEMENT FROM LAST SUMMER, AND ACTUALLY IT WAS AN L L C WHO WAS DOING THE FARMER'S MARKET HERE AT TOWN HALL.
HE DIDN'T EVEN USE D A D B A, HE JUST PUT HIS NAME, UM, UH, WITHOUT THE D B A.
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MY CONCERN ABOUT AN L L C DEALING WITH AN L L C IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S AN ETHICS BOARD AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ACCEPT CONTRIBUTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUSINESS BEFORE THE TOWN.WE DO A LOT OF THINGS WITH LLCS, UH, A LOT OF CONTRACTS WITH LLCS, BUT THIS ONE'S DIFFERENT.
THIS ONE'S ACTUALLY MAKING PUBLIC PRI PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR A COMPANY TO MAKE A PROFIT.
SO THIS, THIS TO ME IS DIFFERENT.
SO AS YOU STATED IN YOUR EMAIL, UM, AN L L C IS ENTITLED TO THE PROTECTIONS THAT AN L L C PROVIDES.
UH, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE TOWN HAS TO GO INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE L L C, IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO THE, THE PROTECTIONS THAT THEY HAVE.
SO THE LIMITED LIABILITY THAT AN L L C WOULD HAVE, WELL, WHO'S PICKING UP THAT FREIGHT? OBVIOUSLY THE TOWN IS DEEP POCKETS.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAXPAYER MONEY, THAT WE'RE BEING AS TRANSPARENT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND WHAT, WHAT IS HAPPENING WHERE THE, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE MONEY.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
SO YOU'VE, YOU'VE MADE SOME SUGGESTED CHANGES.
UH, WHEN I SPOKE TO KOBE, SHE SAID, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME, KOBE, UH, AND SHE HAD SAID THAT SHE HAS NO PROBLEM.
I DID, I DID FRANCIS, WE WERE TALKING LATE AT NIGHT, RIGHT? THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
AND I DID NOT AGREE ON THE TERMS OF WHAT, AND THEN YOU SENT THIS LONG EMAIL OUT THE NEXT DAY, RIGHT? OF, OF JUST CHECKLISTING WHAT YOU HAD FELT THAT THE CONVERS, HOW THE CONVERSATION WENT AND HOW YOU EXPECT IT TO GO.
IT'S, IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.
AND AT THE VERY END OF THE DAY, I HAVE A RIGHT TO, AND TO AGREE OR DISAGREE OF WHAT CONTRACT THAT MY M W B E CO, UM, BUSINESS IS GOING TO SIGN.
AND IF I, AS THE, THE, UM, COMPANY'S OWNER DON'T, DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE IN SIGNING OFF ON SUCH A THING, EVEN THOUGH THAT THE, THE VERBIAGE AND THE LANGUAGE YOU TRIED TO MAKE ME FEEL COMFORTABLE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHERE, WHERE I WAS AT THE END OF THE DAY.
WELL, WHEN I SENT YOU THAT EMAIL, IT WAS TO SUMMARIZE THE CONVERSATION WE HAD.
AND I WOULD'VE HOPED, I WOULD'VE HOPED THAT YOU HAD SAID NO, THAT'S NOT THE CONVERSATION, OR IT WAS THE CONVERSATION.
INSTEAD YOU SAID, I'D LIKE TO MEET BOB.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO MEET.
SO THAT, BUT BEFORE WE JUST, JUST, JUST FOR A MOMENT, UH, BUT DURING THAT CONVERSATION, YOU HAD SAID YOU DON'T WANT THE D B A IN THERE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
IT SHOULDN'T, YOU SAID YOU, WELL, YOU SAID YOU WOULD SIGN AS THE SOLE OWNER BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONLY OWNER OR MEMBER OF THE L L C.
WE GET AN EMAIL FROM SOMEBODY SAYING, I COULD BE AT THE MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S A MEMBER OF IF SHE'S NOT A MEMBER, MEMBER OF THE L L C.
SO IT RAISES, YOU KNOW, WHO IS THE TOWN THAT'S MEMBER, WHO IS THE TOWN DOING? THAT'S MEMBER, THAT'S THE FAKE MEMBER WHO WAS A PART OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.
A FAKE MEMBER WHO ALL OF US KNOW ON YES.
FOR THE FAIRVIEW ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT GROUP, WHO IT WAS AN ORIGINAL MEMBER OF THE INTERVIEWING PROCESS.
OH, SO SHE'S NOT SHE'S NOT PART OF THE L L C.
SHE IS NOT PART OF THE L SHE AND, AND SHE, ALONG WITH JOHANN AND LASHAWN.
HAS, WERE THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE THAT WAS BROUGHT IN ALONG THAT PAUL AND EVERYONE, THOSE THAT SUGGESTED FOR THEM TO BE A PART OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.
THEY DIDN'T JUST INTERVIEW MY COMPANY.
THEY INTERVIEWED TWO OTHER COMPANIES.
SO, AND THIS IS A, I WANNA MENTION THIS WAS A VERY, VERY, UM, OBJECTIVE, YOU KNOW, PROCESS.
BECAUSE WHEN WE STARTED, THE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE BASICALLY WENT IN, EVERYBODY WAS OPEN-MINDED.
THEY, WE HAD A BIDDING PROCESS.
WE, THEY, THE COMMITTEE, UM, INTERVIEWED, UH, ALL THE MARKET MANAGERS.
UM, THE GOAL WAS TO GET EVERYTHING ORGANIZED EARLY SO YOU'D HAVE TIME TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SET IT UP.
AND THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE IS, IT'S ALREADY, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS THE FIRST WEEK.
CAN WE DISCUSS THE ISSUES THOUGH? I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS
CAN I DISCUSS THE ISSUES PLEASE? SURE.
I CAME HERE TO GET THIS RESOLVED, PLEASE.
I DO NOT INTEND TO LITIGATE YOUR EMAILS, YOUR CONVERSATIONS, RIGHT? NOT AT ALL.
THE CONTRACT, UH, I SUGGEST AND RECOMMEND BE WITH GEMSTAR, UH, ENTERTAINMENT, L L C, WHICH IS COLBY'S, L L C.
SHE'S THE MANAGING MEMBER OF THE L L C I FORMED THE L L C FOR HER A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
UH, I KNOW THAT SHE IS THE SOLE MEMBER.
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SHE'S ALSO PERMITTED TO SIGN AS THE MANAGING MEMBER.AND I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT SHE SIGN IT IN THAT CAPACITY, UH, SO THAT SHE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PRIVILEGES OF DOING BUSINESS IN NEW YORK AS AN L L C.
AND YOUR ARGUMENT THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT A POTENTIAL ETHICS VIOLATION BECAUSE SHE OR OTHER UNKNOWN MEMBERS OF HER L L C MAY HAVE GIVEN CONTRIBUTIONS IS I THINK, UH, BASELESS BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY SUCH CONTRIBUTIONS HAVING BEEN MADE, NOR IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS THAT ANY CONTRIBUTIONS WERE MADE TO INFLUENCE THE GIVING OF, UH, TO, TO COLBY OF THIS CONTRACT.
THE OTHER CHANGES THAT I RECOMMENDED BE DONE TO THIS DRAFT, AND I TOOK THE DRAFT THAT WAS FINALIZED, RIGHT.
UH, BECAUSE I, I WANTED TO, TO, TO, TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT COLBY HAD WITH THE DRAFT THAT YOU HAD APPROVED.
SO I MADE SOME SUGGESTED LANGUAGE CHANGES WITH RESPECT TO THE 30 DAY NOTICE TO CURE, WHICH I THINK, UH, UH, MADE IT CLEARER.
UH, I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE SUBSTANTIVE.
I REMOVED A CLAUSE AT THE END THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY APPLICATION TO THIS CONTRACT AT ALL.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, WHY IT WAS THERE.
UH, BUT YOU HAD ALL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT.
UH, AND, AND, AND YOU'RE ACCEPTING THAT, I ASSUME.
AND THEN MOST IMPORTANT, MOST IMPORTANT IS THE EXHIBIT A TO THIS CONTRACT.
NOW I LOOKED AT THE, UH, R F P OR R I GUESS IT WAS AN R F P OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, R F I, MAYBE THAT INTEREST THAT WAS, UH, UM, UH, ATTACHED AN EXHIBIT A TO THAT, THAT LOCATED THE FARMER'S MARKET WHERE IT HAD BEEN, I GUESS DURING YOUR TRIAL RUN LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS IN THE CENTER OF THE PARKING LOT.
AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED WITH A, WITH GREEN SHADING.
UM, THAT TO ME SEEMED TO BE THE DEAL THAT COLBY HAD AGREED TO.
IT IS VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO HER WHEN SHE DID.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER PROVISIONS IN THE CONTRACT THAT YOU APPROVED THAT CLEARLY CONTEMPLATED THAT THAT'S WHERE THE FARMER'S MARKET WOULD BE.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE PLACEMENT OF THE GARBAGE CANS ARE THE TRACE, THE WASTE RECEPTACLES ARE ALL ALONG THE CENTER MEDIAN.
UH, WHICH IS, UH, IF, IF, UH, YOUR ALTERNATE EXHIBIT A WERE ADOPTED IS FAR FROM WHERE THE MARKET WOULD BE, UH, UH, YOU PROPOSED TO PUT THE MARKET INSTEAD IN THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT, WHERE IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD.
AND WHERE THE TRASH RECEPTACLES ARE NOT, ARE NOT CLOSE BY IN ANY EVENT, UM, THAT STRUCK COLBY.
AND FRANKLY, IT STRUCK ME AS WRONG.
AND I WAS LOOKING TO SEE WHERE WAS, HOW DID THAT EVER HAPPEN? WHY WAS THAT SWITCHED? IT LOOKED LIKE A BAKING SWITCH.
WELL, AND I JUST, SO I SUGGESTED THAT YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL DEAL, UH, WHICH WAS THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE R F I, UH, AND THE EXHIBIT A THAT'S THERE.
NOW, IF THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THAT, YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THEM AND THERE CAN BE SOME KIND OF A WORKING ARRANGEMENT TO, TO, UH, TO DEAL WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO THAT AND YOUR COMMITTEE, UH, CAN WORK TOGETHER TO RESOLVE THOSE.
BUT THE EXHIBIT A THAT I THINK BELONGS IN THIS CONTRACT IS THE EXHIBIT A.
THAT WAS PART OF THE R F I THAT, THAT COLBY BID ON.
AND IT WAS ALWAYS UNDER HER UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHERE THAT THING WOULD BE LOCATED WITH THAT.
THOSE ARE ALL THE ISSUES THAT I KNOW OF.
UH, AND I'M HERE TO TRY TO GET THIS RESOLVED SO THAT THIS CAN BE DONE PUT TO BED AND COLBY CAN GET TO WORK.
OKAY? SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, MY COMPANY CAN GET TO, BUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT? SO WITH REGARD TO THE SIGNING OF THE CONTRACT AS COLBY JENKINS, UM, YOU KNOW, STILL BUSINESSES, UH, MANAGING MEMBER OF THE L L C, WE'RE ALL FINE WITH THAT, RIGHT? WELL, DOES MANAGING MEMBER MEAN THAT THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS? IT'S A SINGLE MEMBER.
BOB STATED IT'S A SINGLE MEMBER.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT STATED HERE.
I JUST WANNA KNOW, FRANCIS, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO STUFF THAT YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE A FAMILIARITY WITH.
AND FOR YOU TO JUST BE GUNG-HO ON ON THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, AND, AND SOMEONE WHO FORMULATED, FORMULATED THE L L C IS TELLING YOU THIS, AND THEN KENNETH DOUBLING DOWN ON, I, I I DON'T GET IT.
DID YOU, DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT AGREE DURING CONVERSATION? 'CAUSE I TAKE PEOPLE AT THEIR WORD THAT YOU WOULD SIGN IT AS THE SOLE OWNER OF THE L L C I AM.
THE O I DID YOU AGREE DURING OUR CONVERSATION, IATION? I DID NOT AGREE TO THAT.
I DID NOT, I DID NOT AGREE TO THAT BECAUSE I WANTED TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND LIKE, AND LIKE I SAID IN MY EMAIL BACK, I WANNA MEET WITH EVERYBODY.
SO WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
I'M TALKING TO PAUL, I'M SPEAKING TO JUDY.
I'M SPEAKING, THE ONLY PERSON I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO ON THIS, ON IN THIS BOARD IS KEN.
IN ALL FAIRNESS, I'VE SPOKEN TO EVERYBODY ON THE SIDEBAR.
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OF BACK AND FORTH AND YOU SPEAKING TO THIS ONE AND THAT ONE AND THIS ONE AND THAT ONE, THINGS CAN GET MIXED UP.SO THIS IS WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
WHETHER YOU WANT TO HEAR IT OR NOT, UM, FRANCIS, IT WE, IT'S ABOUT ALL OF US COMING TO AN THE REASON COLLECTIVELY NOT ONE PERSON.
THE REASON WHY I SUMMARIZED OUR CONVERSATION SO THAT THERE WOULD BE NO MISCOMMUNICATION.
AND I SAID, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REFER TO ANY PAST CONVERSATIONS ANYMORE, THE REASON WE'RE SITTING HERE, AND SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY, BOB? WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS THAT IT IS IMMATERIAL, RIGHT? WHETHER THERE ARE ANY OTHER MEMBERS, THERE AREN'T ANY AS FAR AS I KNOW.
BUT THERE, IT'S IMMATERIAL BECAUSE SHE HAS A YOU CREATED IT.
BUT, AND, AND I CREATED IT NOT FOR THIS CONTRACT.
I CREATED IT TWO YEARS AGO BECAUSE SHE HAS OTHER BUSINESSES, BUT SHE HAS THE RIGHT AS THE FOUNDING MEMBER OF THIS L L C TO SOLICIT INVESTMENTS FROM OTHERS WHO MAY WANT TO BECOME MEMBERS.
RIGHT? AND YOU CAN'T INTERFERE WITH THAT, RIGHT? OR PREVENT IT FROM DOING THAT AS A CONDITION OF DOING THIS CONTRACT.
AND WE SHOULD ALSO MENTION WE'VE HAD THOUSANDS, HUNDREDS OF CONTRACTS IN THE PAST WITH OTHER PEOPLE, NOT WHERE WE, AND I THINK WE'RE GIVING YOU NOT WHERE WE HAVE HARDER PUBLIC PROPERTY AVAILABLE FOR PRIVATE PROFIT.
WE HAVE NEVER DONE A CONTRACT OTHER THAN LAST SUMMER WHERE WE WERE GOING INTO A CONTRACT WITH AN L L C TO USE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR A, A COMPANY TO MAKE PROFIT THAT WE DON'T SEE.
NOW, THE FARMER'S MARKET THAT WE HAD AT, AT, UH, WESTCHESTER GREENHOUSES, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL THE SAME, BUT IT USED TO BE THAT THE TOWN WOULD GET 50% OF THE PROFIT.
WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE WE'RE DEVOTING RESOURCES AND POLICE AND AND STAFF TO HELP A COMPANY.
AND ALL I ALL, ALL I WAS LOOKING FOR IS THAT WHO IS IT THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH? UM, SO THAT, YEAH, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AHEAD.
WE KNOW THAT IT'S A SINGLE MEMBER, L L C, THAT COLBY IS THAT MEMBER AND THAT SHE'S THE MANAGING MEMBER BECAUSE SHE'S THE ONLY MEMBER OF THE L L C.
SO CAN WE ALL NOW AGREE THAT SHE CAN SIGN AS COLBY JENKINS, GEMSTAR, L L C? CAN WE ALL AGREE WE WANT SHE'S SIGNING AS MANAGING MEMBER SHE'D SIGN AS A MANAGING MEMBER.
THAT'S WHAT IF THAT, IF THAT IS THAT, OKAY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
CAN WE ALL AGREE THAT THE PARAGRAPH THAT BOB STRUCK FROM THE END OF THE END OF THE CONTRACT THAT DID NOT SEEM TO HAVE ANY RELEVANCE TO THE CONTRACT CAN BE STRUCK.
CAN WE ALL AGREE? WELL, THAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR WITH THE PERSON THAT DID THE, NOW THERE MUST BE A REASON FOR THAT.
AND, UH, WE'D HAVE TO ASK DAVID OR TIM WHO PUT THAT IN LA LAST, LAST YEAR.
YEAH, NO, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH I WASN'T INVOLVED.
I'LL, I'LL LOOK ON BOB'S COMPUTER AND SEE.
UH, IT'S, UH, I GOTTA GET YOU THE, UH, HERE.
WHY DON'T YOU READ IT OUT LOUD AND THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE IN CONSIDERATION OF THE RELEASE PROVIDED BY WHOMEVER PURSUANT TO SECTION 14 ABOVE LICENSEOR HEREBY REPRESENTS WARRANTS TO MARKET MANAGER.
THAT'S LICENSES KNOWLEDGE AS THE DATE HEREOF.
THERE ARE NO POSSIBLE CLAIMS CAUSES OF ACTION OR SUITS, AGAIN, I'M SORRY, OR AFFECTING, UH, MARKET MANAGERS OWNERS.
ARE THERE ANY LAWSUITS AGAINST THIS? OKAY.
YEAH, LET ME, LET ME JUST YEAH.
LOCK WORD BY WORD SO IT'S CLEAR TO EVERYONE.
THIS HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THIS CONTRACT.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S ENTITLED LITIGATION.
UH, SECONDLY, IT SAYS, IN CONSIDERATION OF THE RELEASE PROVIDED BY MARKET MANAGER PURSUANT TO SECTION 14 ABOVE, THERE IS NO RELEASE IN SECTION 14 ABOVE.
SO THIS, THIS, THIS WHOLE PREMISE, THIS WHOLE CLAUSE HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH ANYTHING INVOLVING GEMSTAR AND THIS CONTRACT.
BOB, FURTHER, CAN YOU SHOW ME 14? SURE.
NO, NO, BUT I WANT YOU TO CONFIRM, DAVID, THAT THERE'S NO, IT'S A HOLD HARMLESS CLAUSE INSURANCE.
AND THERE IS NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT A RELEASE OF ANYTHING, OF, OF ANY, HAVING ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH THIS.
SO WHY YOU ALL HAVING DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE WHEN YOU UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THIS INCLUDED THAT CLAUSE IN THERE? I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO EVEN ADDRESS, BUT, SO, SO DAVID, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT PARAGRAPH? YEAH, I'M FINE.
I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT PARAGRAPH
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IN, UH, IN ANY CONTRACTS THAT I HAVE DONE WORK WITH ACCOUNT ON THAT.IT MAY HAVE BEEN SPECIFIC TO SOMETHING THAT WAS A HOLDOVER FOR ALL I KNOW.
SO YOU ONLY HAVE ONE REMAINING ISSUE.
UH, NO, I THINK, I THINK I ALSO HAD SOME, UH, CLEANUP LANGUAGE ON, UM, UH, UH, THE, UH, 30 DAY NOTICE TO CURE.
AGAIN, I, UH, YOU JUST MOVED SOMETHING FROM THE BE END TO THE BEGINNING NUMBER.
AND YOU'LL ALSO HAVE TO SITE THAT.
WELL, THEN WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH EXHIBIT A.
15 A ONE WHERE I'VE ADDED THE WORDS PRIOR TO LICENSE OR DECLARING ANY EVENT OF DEFAULT HERE UNDER, AND THEREBY EXERCISING ANY RIGHTS OR REMEDIES THAT
AS A CONSEQUENCE THEREOF, LICENSURE SHALL PROVIDE MARKET MANAGER 30 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE OF ANY S DEFAULT, WHICH MARKET MANAGER SHALL
AND, AND, UH, THIS IS NOT A SUB CHANGE TO MAKE CLEAR WHAT WAS INTENDED.
AND THEN IN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH, SUBPARAGRAPH TWO, I'VE ADDED THE WORDS IN THE EVENT OF A DEFAULT, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN CURED.
SO THESE ARE INTENDED TO BE IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR LANGUAGE.
THANK SO THEN THERE'S NO ISSUES.
THERE WAS ONE OTHER WHERE WHEN YES, OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET KOBE'S CONSENT, WHICH YOU WOULD NOT UNREASONABLY WITHHOLD.
IS THAT VERBAL? IS THAT THE I'M REALLY CONCERNED BECAUSE WE HAD AGREEMENT AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO RUN A TOWN HALL HERE, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THE FARMER'S MARKET.
AND YOU, YOU PUT A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT WAS NOT IN THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD WITH THE, WITH THE MARKET MANAGER LAST, LAST SUMMER.
UH, AND IT SEEMED TO WORK OUT.
IT WASN'T, AGAIN, IT WASN'T IN THERE YOUR WORDS, YOUR CLAUSE, WHICH IS IN, I BELIEVE IT IS IN SEVEN G LICENSEES RULES AND REGULATIONS.
IT SAYS LICENSOR, THAT'S YOU SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT FROM TIME TO TIME UPON NOTICE THEREOF TO THE MARKET MANAGER.
AND I'VE ADDED THE WORDS AND UPON HER WRITTEN CONSENT, WRITTEN CONSENT, WHICH SHALL NOT BE UNREASONABLY WITHHELD TO PRESCRIBE REASONABLE RULES AND REGULATIONS, WHICH IN ITS JUDGMENT MAY BE DESIRABLE FOR THE USE OF A LICENSED PROPERTY.
COLBY IS INVESTING HER EFFORTS TO PROMOTE THIS MARKET.
SO SHE CAN MAKE A PROFIT, BUT ALSO SHE'S ANSWERABLE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF VENDORS, A LOT OF OTHERS WHO MAY BE COMING HERE TO SHOP.
AND YOU ARE HAVING THE UNILATERAL RIGHT TO CHANGE THE RULES AND REGULATIONS WITHOUT EVEN ASKING FOR HER CONSENT.
SEEMS UNFAIR, ONEROUS, AND, AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, BULLY.
SHE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT AS A, AS A, AS A, A CONTRACT PARTNER WITH YOU TO AT LEAST BE TOLD AND GIVEN HER WRITTEN CONSENT, WHICH SHE'S AGREEING NOT TO UNREASONABLY WITHHOLD.
SO THERE'S A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE THE RULES, TALK TO HER ABOUT IT, GET HER AGREEMENT, AND THEN GO FORWARD.
AND I COULD SEE THAT THERE MIGHT BE WELL BE REASON TO WANT TO CHANGE SOME RULES AROUND, ONCE YOU SEE HOW THIS OPERATES.
MAYBE YOU WANNA MOVE THE HANDICAPPED PARKING FOR, FOR ON, ON TIMES WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY, THE MARKET IS OPERATIONAL AND YOU WANNA HAVE A RULE WITH RESPECT TO THAT.
SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE TOLD WHAT THE RULE IS.
AGREE IN WRITING THAT, THAT IT'S A REASONABLE RULE AND THE RULE SHOULD BE REASONABLE OF COURSE.
AND, AND THEN YOU GO FORWARD WITH A PROCESS.
YOU ALREADY HAVE A COMMITTEE SET UP TO HAVE TO BASICALLY ACT AS A LIAISON WITH COLBY.
SO, SO WHY WOULD YOU NOT, WHY WOULD YOU OBJECT TO THAT? THAT TO ME SEEMS THE UTMOST OF REASONABLENESS IN, IN PUTTING THIS CONTRACT TOGETHER.
DAVID, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? I'LL SEE IT AGAIN.
IT SOUNDED SO IF OUR D B W THINKS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THEY CAN'T DO IT UNTIL WE GET WRITTEN REQUEST FROM A WRITTEN, UH, CONSENT FROM SOMEBODY WHO'S USING BASICALLY THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT FOR A FLEA MARKET FOR A FARMER'S MARKET.
I, I I READ IT AS RULES AND REGULATIONS AS THEY PERTAIN TO THE FARMER'S MARKET, NOT RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT D P W IS MAKING ON THEIR OWN TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT RELATED TO THE FARMER'S MARKET.
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TO DO SOMETHING ON THEIR, TO DO SOMETHING WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW AND JOB DESCRIPTION IN THE PARKING LOT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK COLBY.THEY ONLY HAVE TO ASK COLBY IF WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING IS SOMEHOW AFFECTING THE FARMER'S MARKET.
AND THAT PROCESS WOULD GO THROUGH THE COMMITTEE THAT THE TOWN HAS SET UP TO WORK WITH COLBY ON ANY RULES AND REGULATIONS AND MARKET OPERATIONS.
THIS CONTRACT CONTEMPLATES THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE MEETING AT LEAST TWICE A, A MONTH OR, OR WEEKLY.
IN FACT, UH, I THINK JUDITH, YOU'RE ON THAT COMMITTEE.
UH, AND, AND, AND THAT'S HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO OPERATE, SO THAT YOU WORK IN A COLLEGIAL, UH, OPEN AND TRANSPARENT MANNER.
ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THAT YOU TWO BE LIKEWISE, BE REASONABLE.
DAVID, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THOSE CHANGES? I DON'T.
IT'S YOU, IF YOU'RE GONNA ADD RULES AND REGULATIONS, IT, UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE A COLLABORATIVE EFFECT.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
SO THEN WE, SO, SO I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA SAY THIS, PAUL, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH NO, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
DO WE HAVE ANY MORE ISSUES? WE HAVE EXHIBIT, WE HAVE EXHIBIT A WANNA SAY SOMETHING WITH REGARDS BE BEFORE MOVING FROM THIS? YES.
WE'VE SET UP, INITIALLY, INITIALLY I SUGGESTED MEETING.
WAIT, WEEKLY FOR ONLY THIS, NOT, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE MADE TO THE CONTRACT.
THIS, THIS IS TOTALLY ANCILLARY AND NO, IT'S NOT.
THESE ARE THE, BOB DID, BOB DID NOT PROPOSE THE CHANGE, THE MEETINGS.
AND SO, SO, OKAY, SO THIS IS WHAT, BUT, BUT I READ A VERSION OF BOB'S READ.
BOB'S RED LINE VERSION SUGGESTS BIWEEKLY.
YOU ACTUALLY IN YOUR DRAFT, THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
SO I LEFT THAT AMBIGUITY IN THERE BECAUSE I ASSUME YOU HAD A REASON FOR DOING IT THAT WAY.
SO THE, I DID NOT SEEK TO CHANGE THAT.
ALL I, ALL I'M TRYING TO DO HERE IS GET EVERYONE TO AGREE THAT IF CHANGES TO RULES AND REGULATIONS NEED TO BE MADE, THEY NEED TO BE REASONABLE.
AND WITH COLBY'S WRITTEN GUESS.
SO THE ORIGINAL REQUEST, THE ORIGINAL SUGGESTION FOR WEEKLY WAS FOR THIS JUST THE FIRST SIX WEEKS, JUST TO ADDRESS ANY GLITCHES.
ANY, ANY ISSUES, ANY CONCERNS THAT COLBY NEEDED ADDRESSED IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A SMOOTH RUNNING MARKET.
SO THE ORIGINAL SUGGESTION THAT I MADE WAS ONLY SIX WEEKS WHEN I READ A NEW ITERATION OF THIS CONTRACT, I SAW WHERE IT HAD BEEN CHANGED TO BY WEEKLY.
AND SO I JUST THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, RESOLVED AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, UM, COLBY FEELS THE NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, FIRST SIX WEEKS AND THEN NO MORE MEETINGS OR BIWEEKLY.
SO THAT WE ARE TALKING, WE ARE AND DISCUSSING, WE ARE, WE ARE ADDRESSING ANY ISSUES THAT COME UP BIWEEKLY THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THE FARMER'S MARKET.
JU WHAT DO YOU THINK? WITH ALL DUE RESPECT MM-HMM.
THE CONTRACT MERELY, UH, STATES THAT IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST BIWEEKLY.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO MEET EVERY WEEK, THE CONTRACT ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT.
AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO MEET EVERY WEEK, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.
BUT WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE ONE WORD OF THIS, OKAY.
TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT YOU WANT TO THINK.
I THINK BIWEEKLY IS FINE, COLBY.
UNLESS YOU FEEL THE NEED FOR MORE FREQUENT MEETINGS.
SO NOW WE NEED TO GET TO THE EXHIBIT A, EXHIBIT A, 'CAUSE THAT, THAT ONE IS MYSTIFYING TO ME.
UH, UH, I KNOW HOW COLBY FEELS VERY STRONGLY ABOUT IT.
I DON'T HAVE AN OX IN, I DON'T HAVE A A, YOU KNOW, DOG IN THIS FIGHT.
SO ALL I CARE IS THAT, IS THAT IF SHE FELT WHEN SHE BID THAT IT, THAT IT, UH, BE LOCATED, SO IT WAS VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD AND SHE WAS RELYING ON THAT DIAGRAM THAT WAS IN THE EXHIBIT EIGHT OF THE R F I, THEN THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE CONTRACT UNLESS THERE'S SOME REASON FOR CHANGING IT THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
BUT THIS WAS NEVER DISCUSSED WITH HER AS FAR AS I KNOW.
AND I COULDN'T FIND ANY WRITING.
SO WHO ISSUED THE R F P? WHO ISSUED THE R F P? WHO ISSUED THE R F P? WE DID JUDITH, MYSELF, UH, KRISTA, GARRETT KRISTA.
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IN ONE JANUARY.AND THE U AND THE YOUTUBE HAD A TOWN BOARD RESOLUTION CHILD.
NO, WE BASICALLY, WELL WE, UH, WE, WE NOTIFIED THE TOWN BOARD ABOUT THIS.
NO, I, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE R F P, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS EXHIBIT, IT WAS, TIM WAS DEVELOPED BY OUR, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AFTER DOING AN ANALYSIS.
IT'S BEEN ON THE WEBSITE SINCE LAST SUMMER.
THIS IS THE EXHIBIT A THAT SHOWS IT.
IT'S UP ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
AND, AND THAT IS WHICH, WHICH IS THE WAY IT WAS RUN LAST, LAST SUMMER.
IT WASN'T SO, SHOULD, SHOULD I PULL FROM MY RECORDS IT A COPY OF THE R F I SO I CAN SHOW EVERYBODY WHAT SURE.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU DO THAT AND SHOW THAT THAT WAS AN AUTHORIZED, AN AUTHORIZED R F I I I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
I HEARD, I SAW A DRAWING WHERE HANDICAP SPOTS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WERE, WERE CHANGED OVER FOR MORE VENDOR SPACE FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET.
UM, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO KOBE, IT WASN'T, SHE SAID THAT THAT WAS A MISTAKE I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT SAID IT WAS OUTRAGEOUS BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA THAT THAT WAS A HANDICAPPED SPOTS.
SO IF WE AND MY TEAM ARE LOOKING AT THIS AND SEEING THAT, THAT, THAT THE, BASED ON, BASED ON THE, THE INITIAL OR THE INITIAL MAP, IT'S NOT OUTRAGEOUS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS HANDICAPPED SPOTS.
THEY WEREN'T ALL FAIRNESS WEREN'T FAIRNESS.
BUT IT WOULD TELL ME, IT WOULD TELL ME THOUGH, THAT THE TOWN, YOU WERE HERE EVERY DAY, WHENEVER YOU'RE HERE, YOU KNOW THIS PARKING LOT BETTER THAN, BUT IT WOULD TELL ME THAT IT DIDN'T COME FROM THE TOWN.
'CAUSE THE TOWN WOULDN'T PUT OUT A MAP TAKING AWAY HALF OF THE HANDICAPPED SPOTS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
BUT THE TOWN ALSO HAD THE FARMER'S MARKET IN THE FRONT WHEN IT FIRST STARTED LAST YEAR.
WAS IT NOT? WAS IT IN THE BACK OR IN THE FRONT? THIS IN THE MIDDLE.
WHERE THIS WAS THE DIAGRAM WE WENT BY.
IT WAS VISIBLE FROM THE, FROM, FROM THE STREET.
WELL THEN NOW IT'S GOING TO THE BACK ALL THE WAY AT THE BACK.
THIS I, I I, I, THIS IS THE, WAS IN THE AGREEMENT LAST, LAST SUMMER.
BUT THAT WAS SENT, WAS SENT WITH CHRIS THING.
WE HAVE, UH, IT'S DATED JANUARY 28TH.
I'M SHOWING IT TO DAVID BEFORE I SHOW IT TO YOU.
SO HERE'S, AND, AND WHO SENT THAT TO YOU? WE'LL GO BACK.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD JUST SEND RIGHT? WE LOOK AT IT ON OUR COMPUTERS TOO, PROBABLY THEN MIGHT SEND IT TO, UH, TOWN, TOWN BOARD AT GREENBERG.
UH, WELL, IT SAYS LOCATION OF 2021 TRIAL MARKET.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S AND DOES THAT MATCH UP WITH THE LANGUAGE IN THE MM-HMM.
AND LET ME, LET ME FORWARD THIS TO YOU.
SO IT'S SIGNED, IT, IT, IT SAYS THANK YOU.
SO I'M GOING TO FORWARD THIS TO YOU NOW.
SO WHAT WE HAVE IS AN EXHIBIT DONE BY AN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE USES OF THE BUILDING AND HOW MANY SPOTS WE WOULD NEED NEAR THE TOWN HALL BUILDING AND MAKING, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE PARK OVERWHELMING A NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET.
SEE, AND THE IDEA WAS YOU GO TO THE LEFT FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET TO THE RIGHT IF YOU HAD TOWN BUSINESS.
AND IS THAT, IS THAT A HANDWRITTEN DRAWING? I MEAN, THIS IS PROFESSIONALLY DONE ON A CAD DRAWING EXHIBIT A.
BUT YOUR R F I, WHICH I'VE NOW SENT TO YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OURS.
IT CAME, IT CAME FROM, FROM KRISTA.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT A TOWN BOARD R O FEE.
WELL THEN WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING OF THE MINDS HERE.
AND I'M, I I, IT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE.
SO IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS JUST TO HAVE THE MARKET IN THAT ONE SPOT? THAT'S WHAT YOUR R F I SAYS.
IT SAYS FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES, PHOTOS FROM THE 2021 TRIAL MARKET AND A MAP OF THE MARKET LOCATION ARE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS R F I.
YOU HAVE THOSE WORDS, THEY'RE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND THE, THE, UH, THE LETTER WAS SIGNED BY PAUL FINER WHO WAS SITTING HERE AT THE TABLE.
AND I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE THAT RECEIVED THAT.
ANY EVERYONE ELSE THAT BID IT AS WELL, THAT, THAT HAD A LETTER.
I MEAN, SO YOU WOULD ACTUALLY GET FEWER SPOTS DOING IT THIS WAY.
BUT IF, CAN I JUST MAKE, I, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, IF WE NEED MORE SPACE, WE CAN MEET AND COLLABORATE, EXPAND.
YOU KNOW, MY, MY FAILING IS, FIRST OF ALL, LAST YEAR WE HAD A REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, TRIAL MARKET WHEN WE, WHEN IF YOU PROCEED WITH US, WHICH I FEEL WE, I HOPE WE DO.
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UM, AND IT TURNS OUT THAT AFTER A WEEK OR TWO, WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.WE'LL SIT DOWN AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALL GONNA WORK TOGETHER AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS WORK.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T FEEL THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, VERY TIGHTLY WORDED BECAUSE YOU MAY WANT MAKE MODIFICATIONS.
WE MAY WANT TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS.
AND IF WE'RE SO STRICT IN TERMS OF ALL THE TERMS, IT'S GONNA GIVE US LESS OF AN ABILITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO, TO MAKE THIS WORK THAT MAKES THE PARK OVER HERE AND BACK HERE IN, AND, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT OF THIS IS, IT IS REALLY, THIS IS NOT, I SEE THIS AS A BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK THAT COLBY IS DOING A MAJOR COMMUNITY SERVICE BY DOING THIS.
WELL, THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT CONTRACT DONE.
NO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT WE NEED TO GET EXHIBIT A AGREED TO.
AND WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENT.
AND I'M TRYING TO SUGGEST TO YOU ALL IS THAT WHAT'S FAIR HERE IS THAT YOU HONOR YOUR R F I AND IF YOU NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, THEN WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT.
I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU AS ALWAYS.
BUT PAULA, WE REALLY WISH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REQUIRE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO ACTUALLY, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO AN R F I OR AN R F P, YOU RUN IT RIGHT THROUGH THE TOWN.
I AM ALMOST POSITIVE THAT THE BOARD WAS COPIED ON.
I'LL CHECK BECAUSE THEN I'LL CHECK RESOLUTION.
BUT I DON'T, IT WASN'T A RESOLUTION.
BUT I'M, I REMEMBER WE MADE AN EFFORT TO NOTIFY PEOPLE.
WHAT IS THE DATE OF IT? DIDN'T WE? BECAUSE IN FACT, UM, WE MADE, WE EVEN MADE AN EFFORT TO, UH, HAVE, UH, UH, THE, THE EMPOWERMENT GROUP, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, DESIGNATE PEOPLE WHO WERE LIKE TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF, UH, YOU KNOW ME.
SO NOBODY COULD SAY THAT WE WERE ME OR YOU.
SO NOBODY COULD SAY THAT WE WERE, UM, WE HAD FAVORITES, UM, JOHANN'S ON THE PLANNING BOARD, YOU KNOW, HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN, IN THIS.
THIS WAS NOT, THIS WAS NOT, THIS PROCESS WAS A VERY OPEN AND COMPETITIVE PROCESS, MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WAS NOT OPEN WAS SWITCHING THE EXHIBIT A FOR WHAT WAS IN THE R F I TO WHAT WAS ATTACHED AS THE FINAL EXHIBIT FOR THE, UH, CONTRACT THAT WAS AGREED TO ON MAY 11TH.
BUT THAT'S AN IDEA WE COULD TALK ABOUT.
NOW LET'S, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING YOU'VE CHANGED THE, AND IT MATTERS, IT'S HERE.
BUT KEN, YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION ON THIS RESOLUTION.
IT ALLOWS FOR THE PARKING, IT ABSOLUTELY MATTERS ADJACENT TO ROAD.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS PERHAPS A COMPROMISE, UM, BECAUSE THIS, THE ORIGINAL MAP THAT WENT OUT WITH THE R F I, UM, HAS THESE CENTRALLY LOCATED SPOTS MM-HMM.
SO MAYBE IF WE MOVED IT, ELLEN, YOU WANNA TO THIS CORNER HERE CLOSER TO THE ROAD, WHICH CLOSER TO THE ROAD, WHICH MAKES THIS, YOU KNOW, PARKING OKAY.
AND PEOPLE CAN PARK BACK HERE AS WELL.
BUT IT FREES THAT CENTRAL PARKING WHERE MOST PEOPLE WILL PARK, AND IT STILL PUTS YOU UP BY THE ROAD.
WELL, THE, THE ONE THING I, I WOULD, UH, I, WHAT I THINK YOU NEED TO DO IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK IT OUT BECAUSE THE CONTRACT ALSO SPECIFIES WHERE THE TRASH RECEPTACLES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND BY MOVING THE GREEN AREA TO ANOTHER LOCATION, YOU'RE MOVING IT AWAY FROM WHERE YOU'VE SPECIFIED WHERE THE TRASH IS.
WELL, THAT HAS TO BE ALL CONSIDERED IT TO WORK OUT WITHIN THE, YES.
SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT, UM, YOU AGREE TO THE EXHIBIT A AS ORIGINALLY THE R F I, BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT SUBJECT TO, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE HANDICAPPED PARKING, UM, IT'S NOT SO MUCH ACCOMMODATING HANDICAPPED PARKING.
HANDICAPPED PARKING IS PART IS HERE.
SO WHERE, WHERE DO YOU, WHY DO YOU WANNA MOVE IT AGAIN? WELL, THIS THOUGH IS THE CENTRAL AREA WHERE PEOPLE PARK, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, RIGHT.
SO FOR THE TIME PERIOD OF THE MARKET, IT WOULD BE UNAVAILABLE FOR THAT PEOPLE WOULD'VE TO PARK IN THE BACK AS THEY OFTEN DO.
BUT I'M, I'M COMING UP WITH A COMPROMISE.
WHERE IT'S EVEN CLOSER TO THE ROAD.
AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE WAY OFF THE BEATEN.
I THINK THE ISSUE IS NOT THE DISTANCE FROM THE ROAD, IT'S THE VISIBILITY FROM THE ROAD.
WELL, I, I HAD A QUE I HAVE A, AN IDEA, EVEN BETTER VISIBILITY.
ELLEN, I HAVE A, AN IDEA WHAT IF WE GO WITH BOB'S RECOMMENDATION,
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BUT WE INDICATE THAT IF THE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER PUBLIC WORKS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, FEELS THAT THERE'S, UH, THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS THAT, UH, HE AND, YOU KNOW, COLBY WILL MEET TO IRON OUT, YOU KNOW, IRON IT OUT.BECAUSE THIS WAY IT TAKES IT OUT OF THE POLITICS OF IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I RICH AND OUR BUILDING MAINTENANCE PEOPLE, IF THEY SAY THAT THERE'S A, A MAJOR OR MINOR PROBLEM, THEY'LL MEET WITH COLBY, THEY CAN MEET WITH BOB, AND EVERYBODY WILL WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS US TO WORK.
THE EMPLOYEE, MOST PRACTICALLY EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO WORK A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, THREE SECONDS LONGER TO HAVE THE, THE BENEFITS OF, OF THE MARKET.
UH, SO I, I WANNA FEEL, UH, MY FAILING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL THAT KOLBY IS DOING US A FAVOR.
I FEEL THAT I, THAT'S MY PERSONAL FAILING.
I FEEL THIS IS A GREAT COMMUNITY SERVICE.
I FEEL THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA LOVE THE MARKET IF AND POWER.
NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, WELL, LET'S MAKE, KEEP YOU KEEP REITERATING AND MAKING IT A SCENE THAT WE'RE NOT.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE MAKING THIS INTO A WORLD CASE THING.
THIS, THIS IS A SIMPLE, NOT, THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM.
I, BOB, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT ANOTHER FACTOR ABOUT THE, THE TRIAL, THE PILOT MARKET THAT MADE THIS IDEAL WAS THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
WE WORKED WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN SETTING UP A TRAFFIC FLOW SO THAT THE MARKET WAS RIGHT HERE IN THE CENTER IN A HIGHLY VISIBLE AREA.
AND THE TRAFFIC FLOW WORKED OUT VERY, WORKED OUT VERY WELL.
HERE'S MY SUGGESTION, OF COURSE, I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF CONTRACTS.
YOU SHOULD STICK TO THE R F I.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE CLAUSES WHICH ALLOW THE RULES AND REGULATIONS TO BE MODIFIED BY AGREEMENT, EVERYBODY AGREED TO BE REASONABLE.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WORK IT OUT.
IF THERE CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE, WORK IT OUT, AND WE'RE PROMISING TO BE REASONABLE, WE EXPECT THE TAB WILL BE AS WELL.
I DON'T SEE, AND YOU CAN GET THIS DONE, BUT YOU CANNOT, YOU CANNOT NEGOTIATE IT HERE ACROSS THIS TABLE.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE, WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE PEOPLE HERE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE, THE PEOPLE TO ARTICULATE WHY IT WAS MOVED FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.
WE DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO ASCERTAIN WHICH IS THE IDEAL PLACE FOR THE MARKET TO BE, OTHER THAN WHAT WAS SET FORTH IN THE R F I.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS AGREE TO WHAT WAS IN THE R F I AND AGREE TO MODIFY IT.
UH, UH, IF THAT, IF THAT DESIGN, YOU KNOW, PRE PRESENTS A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I CAN JUST SAY THIS BECAUSE I WAS PART OF, AND PAUL AND I WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS FARMER'S MARKET FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
THE REASON WHY IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME.
WHAT DID YOU SAY G? I'M TALKING, I'M TALKING, BUT WE CAN HAVE SIDEBAR TALKING.
SO YOU COULD WORK IT OUT, BUT YOU COULD ALSO BE COURTEOUS IN THE PROCESS.
SO BOB ASKED OR MADE A POINT ABOUT NO ONE KNOWS THE REASON WHY.
ORIGINALLY THE DESIGN WAS THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT.
AND I'M SPEAKING UP NOW SAYING THAT I DO KNOW THE ORIGINAL REASON WHY WAS BECAUSE THE FIRST CONTRACTOR, THE GENTLEMAN WHO INITIALLY CAME TO THE TABLE WITH US WAS GUARANTEEING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF VENDORS.
AND THE NUMBER OF VENDORS WAS LARGE ENOUGH TO, TO REQUIRE THAT BACK PARKING LOT AREA.
AND IT WAS ALL MAPPED OUT BASED ON HIS ANTICIPATED NUMBER OF VENDORS.
THEN WHEN HIS, UM, UH, THAT, THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO, TO, UM, BRING HIS FARMER'S MARKET HERE WAS, UH, WAS, WAS, YOU KNOW, DIS DISMANTLED THEN, UM, THEN THE TRIAL MARKET WE KNEW WOULD ONLY REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SPACE.
AND THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WHY WE WENT WITH RIGHT UP FRONT HERE.
AND WE WANTED IT TO BE A HIGH VISIBILITY AREA.
AND COLBY IS ALSO SAW, CAME AND SAW THAT AND IS BASING HER VISION ON WHAT SHE SAW FOR THAT TRIAL, UH, MARKET.
THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WHY THE TRIAL MARKET WAS UPFRONT AND THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS IN THE BACK BECAUSE OF THE ANTICIPATED NUMBER OF VENDORS.
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SO DO WE HAVE A, I MADE A SUGGESTION THAT WE AGREE TO THE R F I, UH, UH, EXHIBIT A AND THAT, UH, WE THEN MEET, UM, TO RESOLVE A MODIFICATION TO THAT IF IT'S NEEDED.I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE SUGGESTION.
DAVID COULD DO A, A LETTER OF UNDERSTANDING A SIDE LETTER WITH THE AGREEMENT.
BUT, UH, UH, THAT WAY NEITHER SIDE IS COMMITTING TO ANY CHANGE, BUT COMMITTING TO DISCUSSING A WAY TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
I THINK THAT'S, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
YOU FINE WITH THAT? YES, I AM.
TINA, YOU FINE WITH, I'M FINE WITH IT.
SO, SO I'M GONNA BE THE LONE PERSON OUT.
THIS EXHIBIT A WAS DEVELOPED BY OUR TOWN ENGINEER IN CONCERT WITH OUR TRAFFIC, UH, POLICE OFFICER.
UM, WE HAD PEOPLE APPARENTLY IN JANUARY WRITING ON A MAP AS TO WHAT THEY THINK, YOU KNOW, WOULD WORK, UH, TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE ANALYSIS THAT WENT INTO DOING THIS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE HAVE OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TAKE THE MARKET THAT IT'S AIR, MOVE IT TOWARDS THE MAIN STREET SO THAT IT WOULD BE VISIBLE AND SEE HOW THE TRAFFIC FLOW PATTERN WORKS.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE YOUR FOUR VOTES, YOU HAVE YOUR FOUR VOTES.
WELL, ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AGREEING TO.
WE'RE AGREEING TO WELL, I'M SAYING, I'M SAYING WE DO IT IN ADVANCE AND THAT WE HAVE BRIAN DO IT IN ADVANCE TO SEE IF IT WORKS.
'CAUSE IF THE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW, WHAT'S THE SOLUTION? WELL THEN YOU AREN'T REALLY GONNA HAVE A CONTRACT THIS YEAR.
AND IF YOU WANNA HAVE A CONTRACT THIS YEAR, I THINK YOU NEED TO GET THIS DONE.
NOW, LET'S JUST, CAN I, BECAUSE I WASN'T INVOLVED LAST YEAR, UM, CAN I HAVE SOME SENSE OF HOW MUCH TRAFFIC THERE WAS COMING FROM? IT WASN'T, THERE WASN'T A LOT THERE.
UM, AND IT WAS LIKE A GRADUAL, UM, YOU KNOW, FLOW AND VIRTUALLY EVERY, UH, EVERYBODY SAID IT WAS LIKE ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT THE TOWN'S EVER DONE.
BUT FOR THIS AREA, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
LEMME SEE, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION OF, SO IT WAS LOCATED THERE, UM, THERE IS TRAFFIC FLOW AROUND IT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOURS INTERFERING WITH THE BUSINESS DAY AND HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS WORK IN A WAY THAT SATISFIES KOLBY THAT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION ANY TRAFFIC FLOW AND ALSO, UM, MAKES THE, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND AND D P W, UM, FEEL THAT IT'S WORKABLE.
SO I THINK THAT THE, THE SOLUTION IS THAT IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
WHAT WE AGREED TO IN PRINCIPLE TO THIS NOW, CORRECT? ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WHAT I'M SAYING IS AGREE TO THE WHAT WAS IN THE R F I BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HAS BID ON.
UH, BUT SINCE THE CONTRACT CONTAINS A CLAUSE, WE, WE'VE DISCUSSED CALLING FOR MODIFICATIONS, THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
THE RULES AND REGULATIONS INCLUDE WHERE THE CONTRACT THE MARKET IS TO BE LOCATED.
IF, IF THERE IS A NEED TO, TO MODIFY IT BECAUSE OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM TOWN DEPARTMENTS, UM, THEN BY ALL MEANS, UH, IT SHOULD BE THE SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION.
AND, AND
WE EXPECT THE TOWN WILL BE AS WELL.
AND THAT, UH, HOPEFULLY IT CAN BE AGREED TO.
UH, AND, UH, SHE CAN GET STARTED ON GETTING VENDORS TOGETHER.
AND, UH, IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A MODIFICATION TO THE MAP, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THIS, UH, SO BE IT.
IT MAY TAKE A FEW WEEKS TO IRON OUT AFTER THE MARKET GETS STARTED.
THERE ARE A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES, BUT THE ONE THING YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION OF DOING IS PENALIZING A VENDOR PUBLIC 'CAUSE OF, UH, A PROBLEM AT THE TOWN IN, UH, ONE DEPARTMENT, MAYBE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND THERE BEING SOME INTERNAL CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THE EXHIBIT A SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
SHE BID ON WHAT WAS WHAT WAS PUT OUT THERE.
SHE SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO THAT CONTRACT WITH THAT EXHIBIT A IN IT.
BUT SHE'S WILLING TO BE REASONABLE.
WE EXPECT THE TOWN TO BE AS WELL.
DAVID, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? I'M, I I'M, I FIND THAT ACCEPTABLE.
IT'S WHAT, IT'S WHAT THE TOWN SENT OUT.
THEY, THEY'RE, THEY WASN'T A REASONABLE IT IS WHAT THE FRANCE, IT WASN'T THE TOWN TOWN.
IT'S WHAT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR SENT OUT BY THE TOWN TOWN SUPERVISOR SENT OUT.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA MENTION, I WAS JUST LOOKING OCTOBER 5TH, THIS WAS IN THE HUDSON INDEPENDENT HUNDRED BY LINDA VIEL.
HUNDREDS OF SHOPPERS FLOWED THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AT GREENBURG TOWN HALL FOR THE FIRST EVER
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FARMER'S MARKET THERE LAST SATURDAY.UM, THE TURNOUT PROMISE MORE SUCCESS.
UM, I'VE BEEN DOING FARMER'S MARKETS FOR 16 YEARS AT RAY KEN RING A DAIRY FARMER.
I'VE NEVER SEEN, I'VE NEVER DONE A LOT OF FIRST DAY STUFF, A RESPONSE LIKE THIS.
THE COMMUNITY HAS COME OUT, THEY'RE HERE FOR THE FRESHNESS.
THEY ARE TALKING TO THE FARMERS, THEY'RE GETTING IDEAS FOR HOW TO PREPARE THINGS.
NO, I'M, I'M JUST, WE AGREE, AGREE.
WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT FARMER'S MARKET.
IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE JUST IGNORE OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT'S AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WORK IT OUT LATER ON.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY HOURS AND DAYS WENT INTO THEM DEVELOPING THIS VERY DETAILED.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, THE PROBLEM IS IT'S NOT WAIT, WAIT.
THE PROBLEM IS, IT'S NOT WHAT WAS ADVERTISED IN THE R F I, IT'S NOT WHAT WAS BID UPON.
YOU CAN'T JUST SWITCH THE EXHIBITS FROM WHAT, FROM, FROM WHAT WAS BID UPON TO WHAT YOU PREFER.
SO NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE, THE WINNING BIDDER BELIEVED THAT SHE WAS BIDDING ON THIS, THIS, THIS DIAGRAM THAT WAS RELEASED IN THE R F I.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE REALLY NOT MUCH CHOICE BUT TO DO, AS BOB HAS SUGGESTED, AND DAVID AGREES IS REASONABLE, WHICH IS TO AGREE ON THIS SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT IF, IF WE NEED TO MOVE IT, WE CAN.
BUT IT'S, IT'S, WE ARE AGREEING TO KEEP LOOKING AT IT, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT SET IN STONE JUST YET.
HOW, HOW LONG, UH, FROM SIGNING IT, BECAUSE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WE COULD HAVE A RATIONALE, WE COULD HAVE A RATIONAL DISCUSSION.
IT MIGHT EVEN, THE WAY THE AGREEMENT IS NOW STRUCTURED, THE FIRST MARKET IS NOT SCHEDULED UNTIL JUNE 30TH.
SO YOU HAVE SEVERAL WEEKS NOW TO TRY TO WORK IT OUT.
BUT YOU'LL HAVE SOME, SOME EXPERIENCE UNDER YOUR BELT AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT'S REASONABLE, BUT UH, UH, TO, TO PROCEED ANY OTHER WAY.
I THINK SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE WORKED EVERYTHING OUT.
YOU HAVEN'T DONE THE HEAVY LIFTING YET.
FRANCIS HAS A LEGITIMATE, UH, UH, ISSUE.
AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT ISSUE WASN'T AIRED IN A WAY THAT WAS CONVEYED TO THE VENDOR IN A TIMELY MANNER.
AND, AND NOW I'M GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT FIRST WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A CONTRACT SHE CAN DO ELSE.
SO WHEN WILL WE HAVE THE CONTRACT? EXCUSE ME, THAT'S UP TO YOU.
NO, I'M JUST ASKING DAVID, WHEN MOM SEND IT TO ME, WHAT'S THE NEXT PRESS? I DON'T HAVE IT ACCEPT CHANGES.
I DON'T THINK DAVID HAS IT, DAVID.
WELL, ANY, SO DON'T YOU FORWARD IT TO ME.
BUT, BUT YOU HAVE TO THEN ATTACH THAT SMALL AREA AS YOUR EXHIBIT A, WHICH WELL, YOU, WHICH I, WHICH I THINK DOES YOU HARM, BECAUSE IF YOU SEE HOW MUCH SPACE WE WERE GIVING FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET VERSUS WHAT YOURS IS, IS, BUT, BUT THEN THAT'S A REASON TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE EXPANDING IT IF THE SPACE IS TOO SMALL.
BUT THAT, THAT IS ALSO PART OF, OF THE, UH, PROCESS.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT A REASON IN MY JUDGMENT TO DELAY EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT BECAUSE, 'CAUSE THAT STOPS HER FROM BEING ABLE TO SOLICIT VENDORS TO TRY TO GET THIS OFF THE GROUND.
IF, IF BOB BOB DO SEND IT, SEND IT TO ME TOMORROW WITH THE LETTER, YOU KNOW, DESCRIBING, UH, WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE 15 MINUTES OR A HALF HOUR AGO.
AND YOU CAN, CAN YOU SEND US THE R F I? PARDON? COULD YOU SEND US THE R F I I JUST DID.
SO WE HAVE IT IN OUR EMAIL, SO CAN'T WAIT.
SO I WILL SEND YOU THE, THE RED LINE AND I'LL SEND YOU THE THANK YOU.
YOU FEEL BETTER, COLBY? THANK YOU.
COLBY AND BOB, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I JUST WANT TO SAY, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS TO BE A FACT AND THE TRUTH THAT EVEN THOUGH THE ENGINEERS WERE CONSULTED ON THE ORIGINAL, THIS FIRST DESIGN THAT WAS TOWARDS THE BACK, WE DID NOT PLAN THE PILOT WITHOUT CONSULTING DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND HAVING THEM AGREE TO THE SETUP THAT WAS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR FOR THE TRIAL.
AND WE DID NOT GO FORWARD WITHOUT CONSULTING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO JUST AS THE POINT WAS MADE ABOUT THE ENGINEERS BEING INVOLVED BACK THERE, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS WAS INVOLVED WITH THE DESIGN THAT WAS UPFRONT.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO ARGUMENT THERE WITH REGARDS TO THE ENGINEERS AND D P W BEING INVOLVED WITH ONE DESIGN AND NOT BEING INVOLVED WITH THE OTHER.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE DISCUSS ETERNALLY.
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OKAY.I I'M JUST SAYING THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE INVOLVED IN BOTH DESIGNS.
AND I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS ONE OF THE PLANNERS THAT THAT PROGRAM DEVELOPERS THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER TABLE.
PLEASE DON'T TRY TO SHUT ME DOWN.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.
THANK, JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE THE, PROBABLY THE FIRST, AND I'M QUITE SURE M W B E CONTRACT THAT IS BEING BROUGHT OUT OF THIS TOWN MM-HMM.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY HERE AND I JUST, WE JUST WANT TO TRY TO HAVE THIS BE WORKABLE.
I DON'T WANT TO DO BACK AND FORTH AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ALL OF THE MANURE THAT IS GOING ON IN THIS BOARD THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE, WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER.
AND I, I, IT, IT, IT'S NOT GOOD.
AND I HOPE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN GOING FORWARD FOR ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT COMES BEFORE YOU ALL PERIOD.
ALL OF OUR OTHER CONTRACTS ARE ATTORNEYS TO ATTORNEYS.
WHAT DO YOU SAY? ALL OF OUR OTHER CONTRACTS ARE ATTORNEYS TO ATTORNEYS IN WHICH THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD BEFORE.
UH, WE HAVE, TIM WAS INVOLVED WITH THIS AS WELL.
TIM WAS INVOLVED WITH IT AS WELL.
SO IT WAS ATTORNEY TO ATTORNEY OR WHATEVER.
TIM WAS INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
BUT LET'S MOVE ON WITH THE FACTS.
DO YOU WANT PAUL PAUL, PLEASE? WE'LL GO FORWARD PAUL.
YEAH, WE'RE GOING ON THE AGENDA.
SO, UH, ANY ISSUES? UM, THE ONLY ISSUE THAT CAME UP, UH, SOME RESIDENTS, UM, NEAR THE GOLF CLUB, UH, NEAR, UM, THE, THE GOLF CLUB, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T WANT US TO, UM, THE NETTING, YEAH, THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE NETTING, BUT IT WON'T, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLAINING, IT WON'T IMPACT, UM, THEIR, THEIR PROPERTIES OR THEIR VIEWS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD EITHER TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA AND, UH, REPOST IT FOR, UM, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, OR WE COULD HAVE THE HEARING TOMORROW AND, UH, ADJOURN IT AND THEN GIVE PEOPLE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
WHY ARE THEY UNABLE? ARE THEY UNABLE TO DO IT AT THIS MEETING OR? NO, THEY FEEL THAT THERE WAS NOT AN ADEQUATE, YOU KNOW, NOTICE NOTICE.
BUT YEAH, WHATEVER, UH, THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, SO I JUST, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION, THIS WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, SO THERE WAS OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUT THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NOTICE ISSUE IS, BUT IF PROPER LEGAL NOTICE IS, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS JUST NOTICE THAT THEY, THAT WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS IT AND THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE, THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REALLY THE LEGAL NOTICE.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, MORAL NOTE, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM A STANDPOINT OF, WAS THERE PROPER NOTIFICATION TO EVERY, EVERY, YOU KNOW, PERSON BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE DON'T SEE THE LEGAL NOTICES.
BUT THEY GO OUT TO THE, THEY GO OUT TO THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDINGS AND THEN, AND THAT'S THE BUILDING'S RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT THEY MAY NOT BE THAT RESPONSIBLE, I'M JUST TELLING YOU, BECAUSE WE HAD THAT SIMILAR ARGUMENT IN THE PLANNING BOARD THAT'S ULTIMATELY FOR YOU TO DECIDE.
UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU GO AHEAD.
IF YOU, IF 20 PEOPLE COME OUT, THEN YOU THINK YOU'VE GOT PROPER NOTICE.
YOU KNOW? UM, AND IF IT'S NOT, UH, YOU, YOU CAN ALWAYS ADJOURN.
UH, BUT RATHER THAN, YEAH, THAT'S, RATHER THAN DELAY IT, UH, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.
AND THERE'S ALSO BENEFITS IF WE HAVE THE HEARING AND, UH, WE HEAR SOME GOOD POINTS, UM, UH, WE DON'T CLOSE THE HEARING.
AND THEN WE COULD REFLECT ON THOSE POINTS.
UH, DO FOLLOW UP, UM, AND THEN, UM, CONTINUE THE HEARING TWO WEEKS LATER.
IT GIVES YOU THAT, IT GIVES YOU THAT OPTION RIGHT HERE.
I DID NOTICE A TYPO, BY THE WAY, IN THE MOMENT OF SILENCE.
YOU SURE? I AM ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MORE DISTURBING STATISTICS THAT'S COME OUT RECENTLY IS THAT SINCE THESE SHOOTINGS, THERE HAVE BEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF OTHERS.
SO I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD SAY, OR O B MAYBE WE SHOULD SAY, AND OTHER VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND BEYOND.
IN NEW YORK AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND OTHER VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE.
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THE COUNTRY.THIS WAS, THIS WASN'T THE, UH, LATEST WORTHY NO.
'CAUSE IT WAS TALKING ABOUT, CONFIRMED THAT.
THE, UH, AND WELL, WE JUST SAID BASICALLY THE GUN VIOLENCE IN GENERAL.
I GUESS MAYBE IT DIDN'T SAY, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN AN ISSUE WITH GENDER QUICK TODAY.
JUST GARRETT ASKED JUST TO CONFIRM THAT WE WILL, THAT SCARSDALE GOLF COURSE WILL STAY ON WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE ALL THE VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE, INCLUDING THE MM-HMM.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE GONNA GET OUTTA CONGRESS.
SO WE'RE PASSING TB TWO, TB ONE RIGHT? TOMORROW, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S STAYING ON, RIGHT? I'M PASSING, STAYING ON, RIGHT? WELL, IT'S STAYING ON.
I'M GONNA SEE WHAT BRIAN CAN DO.
IF, IF BRIAN CAN'T SAY THAT IT'S AT LEAST WORKABLE RIGHT NOW.
I MAY HOLD IT OVER, BUT I'D LIKE NOT TO DO THAT.
DID, DID BOB SEND US THE EXHIBIT ONE? THAT WAS EXHIBIT A THAT WAS IN THERE? YES.
I'M ACTUALLY PASSING THAT SINCE IT'S SO LIMITED, IT GIVES US FLEXIBILITY INTO WHERE TO MOVE IT.
I'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
YEAH, THAT'S, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
ALRIGHT, SO LET'S, NOW THAT BRIAN DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH BABBIT COURT AND THE INTENSITY THAT HE DID, UH, LET'S SEE IF THEY CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.
UH, DO WE, DO WE HAVE THE C E O ONE, THE, THE BUDGET TRANSFER LIST? I, I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME.
DOES THERE ANYBODY HAVE NO, UH, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL IT UP ON THE LOAD.
I TRIED TO PRINT OUT EXHIBIT A IN THE OFFICE.
IT WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST SO SLOW.
I HAVE TO TALK TO DEEPAK ABOUT THAT.
WE, WE HAVE AN AWARD, A COMMUNITY AWARD CALLED
WHAT'D YOU KNOW, WANNA KNOW ABOUT IT, PAUL? IT'S, IT'S UP ON THE WEB HERE.
IT'S, UH, TAX COLLECTION, OFFICE EQUIPMENT, TAX COLLECTION, OFFICE SUPPLIES, MOVING MONEY AROUND AND PARKS AND REC, MAINTENANCE, ELECTRIC EXPENSE, UM, MOVING MONEY TO A DIFFERENT LINE FOR THE ELECTRICAL, UH, SALARIES.
WAIT, WHICH I DON'T, THERE ARE ONLY TWO ITEMS I'M JUST LOOKING FOR.
UM, FIRST ONE IS TO COVER THE PURCHASE OF NEW COMPUTERS FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF OUTDATED ONES.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS TO COVER, UH, ELECTRICAL EXPENSES.
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YOU WERE EXPECTING SOMETHING TO BE THERE? NO, I'M JUST, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M PAYING ATTENTION.ANYTHING ELSE AGENDA RELATED? NO.
SO THE LEAF BLOWER LAW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE HEARING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY, I MEAN, IS THERE, COULD WE MAYBE FINALIZE AN AGREEMENT AND THEN WE COULD TEST IT OUT FOR A YEAR? I MEAN, I, I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHICH VERSION.
WELL, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD JUST SAY YOU CAN'T DO IT TWO DAYS A WEEK.
THAT WAS THE LAST VERSION THAT YOU, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S EASY, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND IT AND THEN MAYBE CHANGE SOME OF THE TIMES, WHICH TWO DAYS, WHAT, WHICH TWO DAYS? BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
I DON'T REALLY CARE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE BOARD WANTS.
WELL, THEY SHOULDN'T BE CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
I'M SAYING I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE CONSECUTIVE DAYS, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE CONSECUTIVE DAYS, THEN IT, WELL WAIT, CONSECUTIVE, WE'RE SAYING THAT THEY, IT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED.
THE DAYS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED SHOULD NOT BE CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
UM, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE CONSECUTIVE DAYS, THEN WAIT, I'M TRYING TO GET MY THOUGHTS TOGETHER.
SO IF THEY, THEY BLOWERS SHOULD NOT BE BLOWERS SHOULD NOT BE NOT ALLOWED.
BLOWERS ARE ALLOWED TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND THURSDAY.
SO WE SHOULD GIVE PEOPLE A BREAK BETWEEN THE DAYS WHEN BLOWERS ARE ALLOWED.
SO THAT WE SHALL, WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF DAYS.
SO LET'S SAY WE SAY ARE ALLOWED, WE CAN'T DO THAT'S WHAT WE SAID.
TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS THOUGH.
AND THEN WE HAD THAT D WINDOW OF TIME TUESDAY, A DISCUSSION THAT MONDAY, FRIDAY.
SO WHEN, WHEN THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED, OH, THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED.
NOW, NOW THE LATEST THING IS TO CHANGE THAT TO, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED, THEY'RE ALLOWED, UM, THREE DAYS DURING THE WORK WEEK INSTEAD OF TWO.
SO WE WOULD JUST SAY DAYS ON THE WEEKEND, NO LEAF BLOWER.
SAY TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, NO DAYS ON THE WEEKEND, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED THREE DAYS DURING THE WEEK.
'CAUSE I WAS THINKING, HAVE GIVE A WEEKEND FOR THOSE WHO WORK THE WEEKEND.
COULD WE CHANGE THE TIME WHEN IT'S ALLOWED SO THIS WAY PEOPLE COULD SLEEP LATER, OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF WE BASICALLY LIMITED THE TIME AND TIME, SAY ON WEEKENDS, UM, THEN, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF LIFE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALREADY AGREED TO.
NO, THAT'S 11:00 AM BETWEEN, NO, NOT EARLIER THAN 11 AND NOT LATER THAN THREE.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS AGREED TO.
SO IT, ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS YOU COULD DO IT SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS 11 TO THREE WOULD BE ALLOWED.
I THINK FOR 11 TO THREE IS, IS EARLY.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE LIKE 11 TO FIVE COME ABOUT SUNDAYS.
PEOPLE WANNA HAVE DINNER EARLY ON SUNDAY, DONE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GOT, YOU GOTTA WORK, YOU GOTTA WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT, REMEMBER NOW YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LANDSCAPERS.
YOU GOTTA GET THEM AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE NOW'S WHAT I WE'RE LAND.
I'M SAYING GIVE THEM MORE TIME ON A SATURDAY AFTER.
NO, I AGREE WITH YOU BEING ABLE TO START OFF, THEY TRY TO COME IN EARLY.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING EIGHT O'CLOCK, BUT THEY TRY TO COME IN EARLY SO THAT THEY'RE NOT IN THE HEAT OF THE SUN AND CUTTING YOUR GRASS AND THE HEAT OF THE SUN IS NOT GREAT EITHER.
IT'S ALMOST, IT'S STILL A HARDSHIP ON THEM AS WELL.
IT'S DEFINITELY A HARDSHIP ON LANDSCAPERS CUTTING OF THEIR, THE CUTTING OF THEIR WORK.
SO WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? I'M AN EARLY PERSON, SO I DON'T, NO ONE, I GET UP VERY EARLY, SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANYONE, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE THEM TO GET IN EARLY AND GET OUT EARLY.
YOU HAVE THE REST OF THE DAY AND THEN THEY HAVE THE REST OF THE DAY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE WANTING TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP IN DURING THE WEEK IS TOUGH TOO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL WORKING DURING THE WEEK AND I HAVE SOME LANDSCAPERS THAT COME BY THE HOUSE THAT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
SO I MEAN THIS WELL, THAT SHOULDN'T BE EVEN NOW, RIGHT? HUH? THAT SHOULDN'T BE EVEN NOW, RIGHT? WELL, THEY'RE COMING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
I JUST SEEN EMAIL FROM TERRY TO, I'M JUST THINK THAT, BUT WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT TIME IS, I MEAN, EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.
NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE UNHAPPY AS NOW I RECEIVED AN EMAIL, NINE TO FOUR,
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NINE TO FOUR ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAY.I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM TERRY, BUT WHY NOT? IT'S NINE O'CLOCK.
IT'S REALLY EARLY ON SATURDAY
SUNDAY SUNDAYS, BUT NEEDS TO BE OFF THE WEEKEND.
WE MAKE PREPARE ON MONDAY FOR THE, WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS?
NOW THIS IS A, A, A, A LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, WHO HAS BEEN A LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT SHE FELT THAT THAT WAS A, A HIGHLY RECOMMENDED WAY TO GO.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS, THIS REALLY SHOULD BE ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE ISSUE FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG RESIDENTS.
NOT ABOUT THE CONCERNS FOR THE, THE, UM, PEOPLE WHO OWN LEAF BLOWERS OR LANDSCAPERS.
I MEAN, YES, TAKE THEM INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT IT SHOULD BE PRIMARILY A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE FOR RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE WHO, WHO CAN'T AFFORD, WHO BUSINESSES.
A SMALL BUSINESS WHO HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES.
THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE, WHO, WHO, UH, CAN'T AFFORD A LANDSCAPER WHO NEED TO DO THE, I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU'RE NOT CUTTING THEM OFF.
NO, THEY'RE JUST LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF TIME.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE CAME UP WITH, WITH SOMETHING THAT IS, UM, A LITTLE BIT NOT REALLY GREAT RIGHT NOW, AND WE TEST IT OUT FOR A YEAR, THEN NEXT YEAR WE COULD ALWAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPAND THE HOURS OR WHATEVER, AND WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE EXPERIENCE.
PEOPLE MAY LIKE IT, HONESTLY BOTHER ME.
SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE CONDENSING EVERYBODY INTO THAT WINDOW OF 11 TO THREE ON A SATURDAY.
THAT'S WHEN THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AMAZINGLY ENOUGH, SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE BACK BACKYARD BARBECUES OR THEIR KIDS' BIRTHDAY PARTIES IN THE BACKYARD.
AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT BETWEEN 11 AND THREE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE, THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE FEW HOURS THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY USE A LEAF BLOWER.
NOW, THEY'RE NOT JUST GONNA COME WITH THE LEAF BLOWERS.
THEY'RE GONNA COME WITH THE MOWERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME BACK TO YOUR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON SO THAT THEY CAN THEN TAKE CARE OF THE LEAVES ON THE DRIVEWAY.
THEY'RE GONNA DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY? I, I, I'M REALLY HARD PRESSED TO, TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
UM, IT'S GONNA HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE LANDSCAPERS, WHICH WE'RE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION.
I DOUBT, I DOUBT IF WE'VE EVEN CONTACTED LANDSCAPERS TO LET 'EM KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
UH, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE MOVE THE, UH, GOLF COURSE BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T GET ENOUGH NOTICE.
I, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPERS, YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE LICENSED THROUGH WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
I'M SURE WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHO THEY ARE IN, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
WHAT IF YOU, WHAT IF WE SAID, UM, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A SUBSTANTIAL HIT ON THEIR, ON THEIR, AND RE AND MANY OF THEM ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR, RIGHT? AND THEY RELY ON IT.
MANY PEOPLE DOING THE WORK ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.
PEOPLE WHO OWN THE COMPANIES ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING PAID TO DO IT, THAT'S WORK.
I'M, I'M JUST MAKING A CLARIFICATION.
WHAT IF WE SAID FOR ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, YOU CAN'T START BEFORE 11 O'CLOCK BECAUSE, AND THEN YOU JUST SAY 11 O'CLOCK IS THE STARTING TIME.
SO EVERYBODY GET, SO YOU HAVE FOR ONE YEAR, YOU HAVE NO, UH, LEAF BLOWERS ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS AND SATURDAYS ON NO LEAF BLOWERS OF ANY KIND BEFORE 11 O'CLOCK.
BECAUSE THIS WAY IT GIVES PEOPLE THE WHOLE DAY IT'S NOT GONNA CONDENSE IT.
AND THEN NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND THEN NEXT YEAR, WE COULD ALWAYS, WE SEE HOW IT WORKS.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MAY SAY, BOY, THIS IS SO GREAT.
I I, YOU KNOW, I'M ABLE TO SLEEP LATER.
UH, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE TO BE, IT'S NOT NOISY.
IT'S, IT'S EASY FOR THE POLICE TO ENFORCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IF, IF SOMEBODY VIOLATES IT AND THEY GET A NOTICE, WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, COME BACK AT 1130 AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AFTER A COUPLE, WE, AFTER A COUPLE WEEKS, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
AND, UM, AND THEN JUST FOR THE WEEKENDS THOUGH, BUT DURING THE WEEK, IT WILL BE EARLIER.
UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE, DURING THE WEEK, I THOUGHT WE AGREED WITH JERRY THAT THEY COULD HAVE FROM EIGHT TO FOUR, BECAUSE RIGHT.
THAT'S WHEN THE D P W UH, EMPLOYEES ARE AT WORK.
NO, WHAT, DURING THE WEEK? WE WEREN'T BASICALLY CHA ORIGINALLY I WASN'T CHANGING ANYTHING.
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WE JUST CLARIFYING THAT.WE'RE JUST ENDING IT A COUPLE FOR, FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S, SO IT BASICALLY NO LEAF FLOWS.
SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, UM, AFTER 11, UH, AFTER, AFTER 11 ALLOWED.
UM, BUT YOU'VE GOTTA GIVE A END DATE.
OTHERWISE THEY COULD, OTHERWISE, IF YOU SAY AFTER 11, THEY COULD BE, UM, AFTER THEY COULD LOOP BLOW BLUES UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
NO, YOU'VE GOTTA GIVE AN END TIME.
WELL, WE, WE, WE WOULD SAY BASICALLY 11 O'CLOCK FOR THE FIRST YEAR, WE'RE BASICALLY JUST SAYING IT.
YOU CAN'T START TILL, FOR SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, WE'RE LETTING PEOPLE SLEEP LATE FOR TWICE A WEEK.
WE'RE SAYING NO NOISE OF ANY KIND.
BUT, BUT JU WHAT ABOUT'S POINT IS, IS AT THE END, AT THE END OF THE DAY, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OUT BARBECUING, THEY MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE FOR COCKTAILS AT FIVE.
SO DO WE WANNA SAY 6:00 PM THAT'S TOO LATE, PAUL.
PEOPLE DON'T NORMALLY, UH, SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH LEAF BLOWERS AT FIVE OR SIX O'CLOCK.
ON SATURDAYS IT WAS THREE WE DECIDED OKAY.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE WHOLE THING.
WHAT HAPPENS IF IT RAINS? IF IT RAINS, SAY I GO, IF IT RAINS, GO THE NEXT DAY.
LANDSCAPERS GO OUT UNLESS POUR ENOUGH.
AND HOW, HOW OFTEN DO THE LANDSCAPERS WORK ON WEEKENDS? I WORK ON SATURDAYS.
THE SATURDAYS IT'S MAINLY HOMEOWNERS.
IT'S MAINLY PEOPLE HOMEOWNERS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU OPEN UP FOR.
SO, SO, SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO? DO WE HAVE TO REWRITE THE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HAVE A CLEAN LAW.
WE'RE NOT REGULATING, WE'RE NOT REGULATING DECIBELS.
I'LL HAVE TO GET IT FROM, FROM TIM.
SO IT'S BASICALLY NO LEAF, NO LEAF BLOWERS OF ANY KIND.
AND ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS AFTER 11, UH, TWO, FOUR.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE, THE ONLY CHANGE WE MADE ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
AND THIS IS ONLY FOR ONE YEAR.
SO SHOULD WE SAY IT WOULD, UH, WELL DO WE HAVE TO HAVE TO END OF THIS SEASON? BECAUSE WHAT IS A YEAR? ARE YOU GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA START THIS UP.
IS THIS GOING TO EXPIRE NEXT JUNE YEAR? BUT I THOUGHT DATES, I THOUGHT DATES WAS IN THAT, I THOUGHT DATES.
THERE WAS DATES LISTED IN THAT BEGINNING JUNE 1ST.
YEAH, THE DATES BEGINNING JUNE 1ST.
BUT WAS INCLUDING OCTOBER 15TH.
SO IT'S BETWEEN JUNE AND, AND OCTOBER.
UM, IS WHAT WE'VE SAID HERE, AT LEAST ON THIS VERSION DATED MAY 4TH.
SO WHY DON'T WE, UM, UH, SAY THAT IT WOULD START, UH, JULY 1ST, BECAUSE THIS WAY WE COULD APPROVE IT.
WE WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT AT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING.
DO WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING NOW? AND THEN, AND THEN WHEN IS THE FALL COLLECTION START? I PREPARE WHAT IT SAID LAST TIME.
WELL, WE HAD THE, THE HEARING WAS CLOSED AND THE RECORD WAS KEPT OPEN.
WE ARE NOW ACTING ON THE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT DURING THE HEARING.
SO IT WAS BASICALLY PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING.
SO THEN, SO THEN WE'LL PUT THIS ON FOR AT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING.
AND THEN WE WILL, UM, WE COULD VOTE, WE COULD VOTE ON IT AND IT WOULD BE FOR A YEAR.
AND IT WOULD SAY JULY 1ST TO, UH, TO MAY 31ST.
AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE WOULD HAVE TO REDO, OH, WE'RE NOT GONNA KEEP ONE IN THE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO OCTOBER 15.
I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA USE 15TH OR SO.
I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA USE THE DATES THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY.
'CAUSE IT GOES TO, IT GOES TO, WHAT WERE THE DATES, KEN? THE ORIGINAL DATES WERE JUNE 1ST TO OCTOBER 15TH.
SO MAYBE YOU SIMPLY JUST KEEP THAT YOU RESERVED THE RIGHT AFTER OCTOBER 15TH.
YOU CAN ALWAYS, ANYTIME BEFORE THE FOLLOWING JUNE 1ST TO MODIFY, REVOKE, WHATEVER.
SO I DON'T, I THINK YOU CAN BE SILENT.
WELL ACTUALLY THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE WE COULD SAY WE, WE ARE DOING A A COUPLE MONTH TEST.
THIS IS THE SAME CONCEPT AS, UH, A SUNSET CLAUSE.
UM, ONE OF THE CRITICISMS WAS WITH REGARD TO, UM, PARAGRAPH THREE, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE TOWN SHALL HAVE EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH IMPACTS OF BLOWERS PREPARED WITH THE TOWN TO POST ON ITS WEBSITE.
UM, AND THE, THE PUBLIC DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS GOOD ENOUGH.
SO I'M SUGGESTING AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN THAT WE MIGHT HAVE USE ALL OF OUR OUTLETS, RIGHT.
UH, IN ORDER TO, UM, MAKE AS MANY PEOPLE AWARE OF THE CHANGE AS POSSIBLE RATHER THAN JUST SOME INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE.
INCLUDING CONTACTING THE LANDSCAPER? YEAH.
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MM-HMM.AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A GOOD PROJECT FOR EVEN THE STUDENT INTERNS TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, JUST IN TERMS OF EDUCATING, IN TERMS OF GETTING THE WORD OUT.
SO WE GOT SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED.
CAN WE GO ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION? UH, GARETH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE PUBLIC HERE? UM, VERY CLOSE TO ENSURING THE, UH, FARMER'S MARKET WILL TAKE PLACE THIS SATURDAY.
I'M JUST WAITING FOR ONE MORE EMAIL FROM THE PROPERTY TRAIN.
THE HARTSDALE FARMER'S MARKET, WHICH CAN NO LONGER TAKE PLACE AT THE, UH, UH, TRAIN STATION LOCATION.
UM, DUE TO THE ELEVATOR PROJECT.
SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE DRIVEWAY ADJACENT TO THE I BANK.
UH, THEY HAVE, UM, ACCOMMODATED, UH, THE NEEDS THERE.
AND WE, WE'VE WALKED THE LOCATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I SPOKE WITH THE HARTSDALE FIRE CHIEF.
UM, EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE, UM, IN CONCERT THAT THAT'S A FINE ALTERNATIVE LOCATION.
AND, UM, I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE FINAL OKAY.
THEY SAID, UH, THEY EXPECT TO GIVE US THAT TODAY.
UM, AND I KNOW YOU SENT OUT A KNEE BLASTS.
I SPOKE TO, UM, ONE OF THEIR MANAGERS WHO HAD TOLD ME IT WAS GOOD.
THAT'S WHY WE SENT OUT THE E-BLAST.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I HAVE TO, UH, JUST WAITING FOR THE FINAL OWNER.
I HAVE TO, UH, NOT BE AS IMPULSIVE, BUT IT, I THINK IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THIS SATURDAY.
AND IT WILL BE FROM 8:00 AM TO 4:00 PM OKAY.
SMALLER VERSION THAN, THAN TYPICAL JUST DUE TO THE SPACE LIMITATIONS.
BUT IT SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE NICE.
EIGHT TO 8:00 AM TO, WHAT WAS THAT? UH, FOUR ON SATURDAYS.
WHEN WAS THE START DATE? AGAIN? STARTING THIS COMING SATURDAY.
AND IT WILL 11TH CONTINUE UNTIL, UH, TYPICALLY IT GOES TILL THANKSGIVING.
AND I DID, I WAS LISTENING ON THE COMPUTER UPSTAIRS.
UM, DURING AGENDA REVIEW THERE, SOME RESIDENTS REACHED OUT OVER THE WEEKEND TO SUPERVISOR FINER ON THE, UH, SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB APPLICATION.
UH, THE, THE NOTICE WAS DONE PROPERLY.
UH, IT WENT TO, UH, THE MANAGING AGENT OF, UH, I GUESS THE, THE CO-OP BUILDING.
AND, UM, MAYBE THERE WAS AN ADDRESS CHANGE THERE.
IN THE INTERIM, THERE WAS AN EMAIL CHAIN SENT OUT ALL THE INFORMATION, LINKS TO THE PLANS, UM, A DIAGRAM WHERE THE NETTING WAS GOING TO GO.
SO I THINK LIKE AESTHETIC CONCERNS FROM THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING, UM, SHOULDN'T BE, UH, SIGNIFICANT.
BUT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO INDEED HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF RESIDENTS COME OUT AND INDICATE, YOU KNOW, THEY WISH THEY HAD MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION, PERHAPS THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO ADJOURN, WHICH WOULD BE FINE.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UH, AT LEAST HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS.
YOU KNOW, THAT WE, WE'VE ONLY HEARD FROM PEOPLE ON A HUNDRED WITH 40 AND 50 IS THE AREA THAT WHERE WOULD HAVE MORE OF A VISUAL IMPACT.
IT'S ACTUALLY ONE 20 IS, IS THE CLOSEST TO THE, UH, NETTING.
AND, UM, THEY HAD A REQUEST THAT THE NETTING, UM, BE, BE A COLOR BLACK, I BELIEVE THAT'S, THEY'RE NOT, WHICH, WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD DO.
UM, AND, AND THEN THE NET, I'M SORRY.
SO THEN IT'S, MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA ARE FINE.
AND, AND THE BUBBLE'S PRETTY WELL OBSCURED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AND IT SHOULD ALSO BE POINTED OUT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN OVER THE YEARS A BUNCH OF EMAILS FROM PEOPLE AND CALLS FROM PEOPLE WHERE GOLF BALLS HAVE HIT CARS AND PROPERTY.
AND SOME PEOPLE WERE NERVOUS THAT IT WOULD HIT THEM.
ANY, ANY IDEA HOW THIS NETTING AFFECTS LIKE BIRDS AND OTHER WILDLIFE? YEAH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, SO WE DID REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT ON THAT, AND THEY'RE USING THE TYPE OF NETTING, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
IT'S, IT'S SO FINELY WOVEN TOGETHER THAT IT'S ACTUALLY USED, UM, BIRD SANCTUARIES SO THAT WHEN BIRDS DO GO INTO IT, UM, THEY DON'T GET CAUGHT UP IN IT.
AND, UM, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE GOLD STANDARD OF NETTING, UM, VISUALLY, HUMANS REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST REALLY CAN'T EVEN SEE IT.
UM, BUT YEAH, THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BIRDS.
UM, THE HEIGHT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH TREES.
SO PRESUMABLY BIRDS ARE FLYING OVER THE, THE, THE, THE, THE TREE CANOPY.
AND ESSENTIALLY THE NETTING WOULD BE KIND OF AT THE, AT THE TOP OF THAT.
IT'S BASICALLY ON THE FRINGE OUT OF THE GOLF DRIVING RANGE.
UM, SO, AND DOES IT GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GROUND SO THAT IT WOULD AFFECT LAND ANIMALS? YEAH.
AS FAR AS, UM, PASSING UNDERNEATH, WE COULD SEE IF THERE'S VOIDS AND GAPS.
I DON'T THINK THEY LIKE, YOU KNOW, PUNCH IT INTO THE GROUND BETWEEN THE POLES.
UM, BUT THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
I CURIOUS TOO, THERE ARE BOTH LAND AND AIR ANIMALS.
UM, BUT SIMILAR TO THAT, OTHER GOLF COURSES HAVE DEPLOYED AND
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THEY'LL CONTINUE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS TO USE RANGE BALLS, WHICH GO 20% LESS DISTANCE THAN YOUR, YOUR TYPICAL BALLS.BUT YES, THEY'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT VEHICLES AND, AND HUMANS DON'T GET HIT WITH BALLS.
BUT CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT, UH,
SO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE THE SESSION.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? UM, I, I'M SORRY FOR THE PRESENTATIONS, DID WE TALK ABOUT THAT? THE TANYA SHELTER, THE GREENBERG SNOW ANGELS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST RECOGNIZING THE STUDENTS WHO WERE SNOW ANGELS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL GOING BACK TO SCHOOL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY GO, THEY'RE LEAVING.
UM, AND THEN, UM, LET'S SEE, UM, TANYA, UM, IS, UM, SHE ORGANIZED THIS, UM, UM, AMAZING, UH, INITIATIVE AT THE GREENBURG HEALTH CENTER.
AND BASICALLY, UM, UM, STUDENTS, UM, HAVE BEEN FILLING LIKE A, LIKE A AREA AT THE HEALTH CENTER WITH, UH, FOOD FOR THE HUNGRY.
UM, SO, UH, SHE'S BEING RECOGNIZED AND, UM, UNLESS WE REACH OUT TO, UM, ANDREA STEWART COUSINS AND ASK HER TO, UH, REVOKE, UH, TIM'S, UM, CONFIRMATION
I DIDN'T, DIDN'T ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.
YOU TOMORROW SWORN IN ALREADY? I THINK IT'S, YEAH, IT'S LATE.
THIS THIS UNSUNG HERO COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD, IS THAT AN ANNUAL AWARD THAT'S GIVEN OUT? YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I UP TITLES, YOU KNOW.
OH, SO THIS IS NOT LIKE AN OFFICIAL AWARD.
IT'S JUST WHO'S GIVING IT? PAUL'S GIVING PAUL.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE, YOU'VE, UH, MET HER BEFORE YOU THE BOARD.
IS THERE CRITERIA FOR THAT? SOMEBODY WHO'S HELPED FEED THE HUNGRY AND HOMELESS AND HAS DONE, YOU KNOW, ENORMOUS, YOU KNOW, GOOD.
YOU KNOW, SHE'S, SHE'S WORKED VERY, VERY HARD.
NOW I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HER IN PARTICULAR, JUST GENERALLY IF THERE'S A UNSUNG HERO COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD, BUT, WELL, YEAH.
I'M JUST SAYING UNSUNG HERO, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT IT SOUNDED, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NICE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT SOMETIMES.
I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST, I DIDN'T, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS THIS AN, AN OFFICIAL AWARD THAT WE DO MAY ALL THE TIME.
I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE CAN START, YOU KNOW, NOMINATING PEOPLE.
THINK THAT'S, THE TITLE'S A GREAT TITLE.
YEAH, NO, I'M SAYING WE COULD DO THAT.
YEAH, THE FIRST I'M HEARING IT.
DO YOU WANT, UH, IN PRESENTATIONS TALK ABOUT, UH, THE JUNETEENTH, WHAT,
WE'LL TALK ABOUT, WHY DON'T WE PUT THE, THAT ON PRESENTATIONS ALSO, WE GOTTA RAISE THE FLAG.
WE PUT THE, WE PUT THE L G P, WE PUT ONE L G B T SPEAKING, UH, FLAG OUTSIDE.
UM, UM, AND I ASKED, UH, JOE, WE HAD, KRISTA HAD ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, FLAG FROM LAST YEAR.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING ONE FLAG, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
SO JOE'S GONNA GET THAT UP TOMORROW.
ARE WE RACING THAT OR ARE WE J THERE WAS NO, THERE'S NO, WE DIDN'T, NO CEREMONY.
WE DIDN'T HAVE PLAN A CEREMONY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I COULD SEE IF WE COULD FIND, WELL THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER AGAIN FOR GOING FORWARD NEXT YEAR.
I'LL TALK TO, I THOUGHT YOU SAID LAST YEAR WE, THIS WAS GONNA BE ONGOING, LIKE WHEN WE HAD THE CEREMONY LAST YEAR.
YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S WHY I I, 'CAUSE I, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.
I WAS LIKE, IT'S ALREADY JUNE 1ST, AND I THINK IT WAS THIRD.
I WAS LIKE, OH SHOOT, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR, UM, THE GAY PRIDE MONTH.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE COULD DO IS LOOK, YOU KNOW, I COULD REACH OUT TO UM, MJ.
SO SOME PEOPLE IN LEY, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAD THE EVENT, RIGHT? BUT THEY, THEY DIDN'T, UH, HAVE THE TIME TO CUT.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I WAS IN THE HASTINGS HAD FRIDAY NIGHT PRIDE.
THERE HAD TO BE, HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF HUNDRED PEOPLE THERE.
AND ON, UH, SUNDAY AT WHITE PLAINS
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AND THE COUNTY DID A JOINT FLAG RACING.WE COULDN'T DO IT IN FRONT OF HER BUILDING 'CAUSE IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
BUT, UM, AND AGAIN, ANOTHER, SO MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED.
IT WAS, WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING OF THE TOWN BOARD, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LATE, WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE A, I MEAN ALTHOUGH THE FLAGS ARE UP, THE FLAG IS UP, WE COULD BASICALLY, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE COULD HAVE LIKE A LITTLE CEREMONY AND, AND MAYBE THERE'S PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN HASTINGS WHO WERE, WELL MAYBE LIKE MIKE SINO OR SOMETHING CAN MAKE A, THE, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT IN PRESENTATIONS.
WHAT WAS THE GROUP? BUT CAME LAST YEAR.
I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE GROUP THAT CAME LAST YEAR? IT WAS, UM, IT WAS, CAN SHE COME BACK THEN? THERE WAS, IT WAS THE GREENBERG HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE.
DID SHE NOT COME BACK? I SHOULD, YEAH.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, WHY DON'T WE ASK THE, UM, THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE, IF THEY WOULD ORGANIZE, UM, A BRIEF CEREMONY, UM, AT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING.
AND WE'LL DO THE SAME THING WE DID WITH THE UKRAINE.
IS THAT OKAY? SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA HAVE THE FLAGS? 'CAUSE WE ALSO, 'CAUSE YOU, THAT'S GONNA BE, WELL THE FLAG IS UP THERE WITH, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE JUNETEENTH FLAG THAT'S COMING.
'CAUSE THE JUNE PLEA, THE JUNETEENTH FLAG WILL BE UP.
UM, YOU ONLY HAVE THREE POLLS.
YEAH, WELL WE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE JUST HAVE IT RAISED UNTIL WE, TILL JUNETEENTH WE COULD TAKE A, WE, NO, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE UP FOR 30 DAYS FOR JUNETEENTH.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO, I THOUGHT FROM STANDING, I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 30 DAYS FOR THE FLAGS.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
SO, BUT WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL THIS YEAR.
SO WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE STANDARD'S GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD.
WE COULD PUT ONE FLAG, YOU KNOW, ON THE WINDOW OR THE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WE COULD FIND THE FLAG AND YOU KNOW, SAY THE L G B T COULD BE ON THE WINDOW OF THE NO, IT'S KIND.
NO, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT NO, I'M JUST SAYING IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, THE ISSUE YOU SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO WAS THE, THE LACK OF PULL.
SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE UKRANIAN, YOU HAVE THE L G B T, YOU HAVE, UH, THE JU JUNETEENTH.
UM, SO WE HAVE A BUNCH OF, YOU HAVE THE M I A MISSING IN ACTION WITH THE VETERANS.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE JUST HAD TO PLAN IT WELL IN, BETTER IN ADVANCE.
BUT YEAH, BUT WE JUST GOING FORWARD.
WELL WE, DO YOU WANNA GO EXECUTIVE SESSION? YEAH.
'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I JUST, PAUL YEAH.
THEN I MAKE A MOTION TO GO ON EXECUTIVE SESSION.
FOUR FOUR, UH, FOR THE PURPOSES OF, UM, FOR DISCUSSING PERSONNEL.
AND ARE THERE ANY, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, DAVID? UH, DEFINITELY PERSONNEL.
THERE MAY BE SOME LEGAL, UH, THINGS.
I DID SEND A COUPLE MEMOS OUT TO YOU.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE READY TO DISCUSS THOSE, BUT I SENT YOU A COUPLE OUT, SO MAY AS WELL INCLUDE THAT.
OH, DID YOU, DID YOU DO? NO, I DON'T VOTE.