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WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD, UH, UNIT MEETING AND, UH, OUR WORK SESSION.AND WE'RE GONNA START WITH A PRESENTATION BY, UH, EDIE MCCARTHY.
I'M GONNA TAKE ONE MINUTE OF YOUR TIME.
I'M JUST GETTING INUNDATED WITH PHONE CALLS.
SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE BEST WAY TO DISSEMINATE SOME INFORMATION.
THERE IS, AS MOST OF YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE A STAR EXEMPTION ON THE BOOKS SINCE 1996.
AND THE ENHANCED STAR FOR SENIOR CITIZENS WITH LOWER INCOMES, THERE IS A HOMEOWNER TAX REBATE CHECK COMING FROM NEW YORK STATE.
UM, WELL, THEY INDICATED THAT THE CHECKS ARE GOING OUT SOMETIME BETWEEN JUNE AND THE END OF AUGUST.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE BEFORE THE SCHOOL TAX BILLS GO OUT.
SO, AND THESE ARE THE PHONE CALLS THAT I'M GETTING, SO I JUST WANTED TO RELAY IT.
FOR EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT, THERE ARE CERTAIN AMOUNTS THAT THE CHECKS ARE GOING TO BE SENT OUT.
THERE IS NOTHING FOR A TAXPAYER TO DO EXCEPT CHECK YOUR MAIL.
SO THE STATE IS TAKING CARE OF EVERYTHING.
AND IF YOU HAVE, ONE OF THE CRITERIA IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE STAR EXEMPTION.
AND OTHER THAN THAT, THE STATE IS TAKING CARE OF EVERYTHING.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD, UH, ELIMINATE SOME OF THE PHONE CALLS THAT WE'RE GETTING BACK.
SO, BASICALLY, PEOPLE, UH, WHO SAW THEIR SCHOOL TAXES HIGHER THAN NORMAL, THEY'RE GONNA BE GETTING A CHECK FROM THE STATE, WHICH IS A FEW YEARS AGO.
THE STATE JUST DU WE JUST REDUCED THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
SO PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE PAID 4,000, UH, A FEW YEARS AGO, AND NOW IT MIGHT BE 6,000, AND NOW THEY'LL BE GETTING THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BETWEEN THE TWO, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING FOR ANYBODY TO DO, JUST CHECK YOUR AMOUNT FOR THE CHECKS.
BUT IF YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING FROM NEW YORK STATE, IT MAY VERY WELL BE A REAL CHECK.
CAN YOU PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE? CAN YOU PUT A STATEMENT ON THE WEBSITE TO THAT EFFECT? I CAN JUST PUT THE, THIS ON THE WEBSITE.
SO THAT'S WHAT MY BUS DRIVER WAS ASKING ME ABOUT THIS MORNING.
YEAH, AND THE FUNNIEST PART IS SOME OF OUR TAXPAYERS FOUND OUT OUT BEFORE I DID, SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA.
COULD YOU, JUST BEFORE, UM, I'VE BEEN GETTING LIKE A LOT OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE THAT THEIR TAXES WENT UP, THEIR ASSESSMENTS WENT UP 8% OR LESS.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN, UM, IF SOMEBODY'S ASSESSMENT WENT UP 8%, YOU SAID THAT'S THE AVERAGE, THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY MEAN A TAX.
LIKE IF IT'S OVER 8% IT WOULD BE A TAX.
THAT'S THE WAY I'M EXPLAINING.
UM, THE AVERAGE ACROSS THE TOWN WENT UP 8%.
THERE'S A MAP ON THE WEBSITE THAT SHOWS WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS CHANGED AND WHERE.
AND IF YOU'RE PROPERTY ASSESSMENT, 'CAUSE THE AVERAGE WAS 8%, IF YOU WENT UP 8%, YOUR TAXES WILL NOT CHANGE BECAUSE OF YOUR ASSESSMENT INCREASE.
YOUR TAXES WILL CHANGE IF THE BUDGETS CHANGE, WHICH THEY NORMALLY DO, BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF AN ASSESSMENT CHANGE.
IF YOUR ASSESSMENT WENT UP 10% AND THE AVERAGE IS EIGHT, YOU MIGHT SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN YOUR PROPERTY TAXES.
BUT IT DEPENDS ALSO ON THE SCHOOL BUDGETS, THE TOWN, THE COUNTY, AND THE FIRE.
SO I'M TALKING TO, WE'RE MEETING WITH PEOPLE EVERY DAY, EVERY 15 MINUTES FOR THE NEXT, FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS AND NEXT WEEK.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE THAT IT'S BASED ON THE MARKET VALUE OF YOUR HOME.
SO THE MARKET IS INCREASING AND THEREFORE ASSESSMENTS ARE INCREASING.
WHEN THE MARKET STARTS TO LEVEL OUT, FLATTEN OUT, OR EVEN DECREASE.
I'LL BE SENDING OUT ASSESSMENT REDUCTION NOTICES.
THERE AGAIN, DOESN'T MEAN YOUR TAXES ARE GONNA GO DOWN, IT JUST MEANS THE MARKET VALUE OF YOUR HOMES ARE GONNA GO DOWN.
SO IT DEPENDS ON THE, ON THE, UM, MUNICIPAL BUDGET.
NOW, WHEN YOU SAY 8%, YOU KNOW THAT'S THE AVERAGE FOR THE TOWN.
SO WITH THE 8% FIGURE BE FOR, YOU KNOW, IS IT MORE ACCURATE TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU COULD DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GONNA BE AN INCREASE BASED ON YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSESSMENT VALUES? OR IS IT THE ENTIRE TOWN? IT, IT'S A GOOD, GOOD QUESTION, PAUL.
IT'S A COMBINATION OF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LIVE IN HASTINGS, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS.
YOU ALSO WANNA LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE HASTINGS SCHOOL DISTRICT, BECAUSE EACH OF THOSE HAVE DIFFERENT BUDGETS.
AND SO THE HASTINGS SCHOOL WENT UP ON AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 11.5 TO 12%.
SO JUST BECAUSE YOUR ASSESSMENT WENT UP 8% AND EVERYBODY ELSE WENT UP 12%, YOU MAY VERY WELL SEE A, UH, A FLAT OR A LITTLE BIT OF A DECLINE IN YOUR, IN YOUR TAXES.
SO IT WILL DEPEND ON YOUR JURISDICTION IN THE TOWN AS A WHOLE, YOUR PROPERTY LOCATION IN COMPARISON TO YOUR SCHOOL, AND IF YOU'RE LOCATED IN A VILLAGE, WHICH VILLAGE YOU'RE LOCATED IN.
UH, YEAH, I, THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO I EMAILED YOU, I THINK TWO EMAILS FROM HASTINGS PEOPLE.
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VILLAGE.WE'RE MEETING WITH AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY'VE BEEN CALLING AND AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
SO, AND THAT'S A FUNCTION OF THE SCHOOL BUDGET, CORRECT.
SO WHICH YEAH, INCREASED, WHICH IS GONNA INCREASE 'CAUSE OPERATING EXPENSES INCREASED.
COULD YOU ALSO, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, HAVING QUESTIONS ABOUT CONDOS AND, YOU KNOW, CO-OPS AND THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, VALUATIONS.
COULD YOU JUST BRIEFLY MENTION THE IMPACT OF A HOMESTEAD ON THE, THE BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS COMES UP IF WE HAD DONE IT, HOW, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SAYING TO PEOPLE, CENTRAL AVENUE IS IN WHITE PLAINS IS IN GREENBURG AND YONKERS, AND IF WE BASICALLY DID HOMESTEAD, THEN THE, THE BUSINESSES ON CENTRAL AVENUE, THEY WOULD'VE HAD BEEN AT A VERY COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, I, I CAN, I APOLOGIZE FOR CRASHING YOUR PARTY RIGHT NOW.
I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT.
I HAVE A MEETING AT SEVEN 30 TONIGHT, UM, WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THEIR VIDEO VIDEO TAPING IT.
IS THAT RIGHT? DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? UM, WHICH IS GONNA BE A YOUTUBE, WHICH WE'LL PUT ON OUR WEBSITE TOMORROW, WHICH WILL ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.
BUT BASICALLY, I'M, I'M, DID YOU WANNA GIVE A LITTLE OVERVIEW BEFORE, RIGHT.
TONIGHT AT SEVEN 30? I JUST DIDN'T WANNA WASTE YOUR TIME, BUT, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE.
IN TERMS OF THE, SO PEOPLE ARE ASKING ABOUT CONDOMINIUM VALUATIONS AND, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOME VALUATIONS.
AND BY LAW I'M MANDATED TO VALUE THEM DIFFERENTLY USING A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY, WHICH GIVES THE CONDOMINIUMS AND COOPERATIVES A DIFFERENT VALUATION AS OPPOSED TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND THERE'S AN OPTION OUT THERE.
WHEN WE DID THE FIRST REEVALUATION IN 2016 TO ADOPT WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, TAXPAYERS WANTED US TO ADOPT THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION BECAUSE THAT CHANGED THE METHODOLOGY FOR CONDOS AND CO-OPS.
BUT WHAT THE TAXPAYERS DIDN'T GET THE WHOLE PICTURE IN THE RELATION THAT IT ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTS COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF YOU, IN ENGLISH, IF YOU HAVE A 500, I'M SMILING UNDER HERE, YOU HAVE A $500,000 SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND A $500,000 COMMERCIAL, UM, BUILDING THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, EVEN THOUGH THE VALUE'S EXACTLY THE SAME, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WILL PAY A 10, 15, 20, 30% HIGHER THAN WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL IS PAYING FOR.
SO, BUT IT WILL OFFSET SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL TAXES.
HOWEVER, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CONDOS IN VALUING THEM WITH THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND NOT WAS SO MINIMAL THAT IT WAS NOT WORTH JEOPARDIZING THE OCCUPANCY OF ALL OF OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
SO IF YOU HAVE A PROPERTY ON CENTRAL AVENUE THAT HAS A SCARSDALE ADDRESS, P SCARSDALE PO, THEY CAN MOVE ONE BLOCK DOWN AND GO TO ACTUALLY SCARSDALE AND HAVE THAT SCARSDALE AND PAY 20, 30% CHEAPER IN PROPERTY TAXES.
SO WE WERE CONCERNED BACK IN 2016 THAT OUR VACANCY RATES FOR ALL OF OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, IMPOR AS IMPORTANT ARE MAIN STREETS DOWN IN OUR VILLAGES.
IT WOULD BE BE TAXED OUT, SO, OKAY.
NEXT, UM, WE HAVE, UH, JEROME, BARB PRO CHAMP BENEFITS IS HEED BY, UH, ZOOM.
WHEN ARE YOU DOING THE SPECIAL MEETING? YEAH, I HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TOO.
YOU WANNA DO THE SPECIAL MEETING? I AS WELL GET IT OUTTA THE WAY.
SO TOWN BOARD ACCEPTS WITH REGRET THE RESIGNATION.
PAUL FINER TOWN SUPERVISOR HERE, ELLEN HENDRICKS, COUNCILWOMAN PRESENT.
COUNCILMAN GINA JACKSON? PRESENT.
COUNCILMAN KEN JONES? PRESENT.
COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHAN PRESENT AND FIRST DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY DAVID FREE PRESENT.
THE BOARD ACCEPTS FOR THE REGRET THE RESIGNATION OF MAXINE SUSSEL FROM THE BOARD OF ETHICS, EFFECTIVE APRIL 9TH, 2022.
I'M GONNA HOLD OVER TB ONE RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG RATIFYING THE EXECUTION OF A SUPPLEMENTAL MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATION REASSIGNING THE UNIQUE TITLE OF STAFF ASSISTANT BUILDING INTO THE C SS E A BARGAINING UNIT, AND THE THEREAFTER AS A TITLE AND THE CURRENT CONTRACT CLASSIFIED AS A GROUP.
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS THE TIME TO, UH, APPROVE SALARY INCREASES FOR ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, PERSON.
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KNOW, I FEEL THAT IT WILL CREATE SIGNIFICANT MORALE PROBLEMS, UH, AMONG OTHER EMPLOYEES WHO FEEL THAT THEY, UM, DESERVE, UH, THE SALARY INCREASES, GRADE UP INCREASES.UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TIME.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFLATION, UH, GAS PRICES ARE GOING UP THE ROOF.
THERE'S A LOT OF EMPLOYEES WHO KEEP CONTACTING ME, ASKING FOR MORE.
UH, THIS IS GONNA CREATE MORALE PROBLEMS AND THIS IS GONNA CREATE MANAGEMENT PROBLEMS. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD, UM, SUPPORT, UM, GIVING THE INDIVIDUAL, THE PERSON THAT WE'RE ASKING TO GET AN INCREASE, OR THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD WANTS AN INCREASE.
UM, UM, I WOULD, I THINK SHE, SHE DOES A GREAT JOB.
I THINK SHE'S VERY DEDICATED, HARDWORKING, YOU KNOW, CAPABLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, MY ISSUE IS THE, THE, THE PRECEDENT.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A, A, A PERMANENT BUILDING INSPECTOR RIGHT NOW.
AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE INCREASING GRADE LEVELS, UM, OR SALARIES UNTIL WE HAVE, UH, A PERMANENT BUILDING INSPECTOR.
UM, I WOULD, UH, SUPPORT A TEMPORARY, UM, YOU KNOW, INCREASE, UM, SINCE THERE ARE VACANCIES IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
AND IF, UM, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD SAY TILL THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA LIVE, UM, WITH FEWER EMPLOYEES, UH, WE'LL HAVE ONE SAY LESS, UH, ASSISTANT BUILDING INSPECTOR, AND WE'RE GONNA STAY WITHIN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'D BE WILLING TO, UH, HAVE A ONE YEAR ONLY, UM, INCREASE.
AND THEN AFTER THE NEW BUILDING INSPECTOR IS, UM, UM, IS APPOINTED, UH, LET THAT PERSON, HIM OR HER, UM, MAKE AN EVALUATION AND DECIDE WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE A GRADE INCREASE.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT IF WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SALARY INCREASES, WE SHOULD DO IT ALL.
WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD BASICALLY HAVE A PROCESS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE A YEAR DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE REVIEW, UH, ALL SALARIES AND, AND JUST DECIDE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING.
BUT EVERYBODY'S BEEN ASKING FOR INCREASES.
JUDITH HAS BEEN ASKING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL HELP AND WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR HER.
I'VE ASKED FOR AN EXPANSION OF A POSITION FROM PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME, AND IT IS NOT TRUE.
IT IS NOT MONEY TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT SAME KIND OF REQUEST WAS GRANTED FOR THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, THE COURT, THE COURTS, AND THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.
AND, AND SO IT'S NOT TRUE THAT THE MONEY'S NOT THERE.
NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE DON'T, CAN WE JUST MOVE ON? IT'S BEING HELD.
I'M HOLDING IT OVER AND I JUST, THIS IS HORRIBLE MANAGEMENT.
UM, SO IT'LL BE HELD OVER TO THE, UH, NEXT.
THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING ON THE 22ND.
ATT AT T ONE, UH, RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RETENTION OF WILSON, UM, EISER, MOSKOWITZ, EDELMAN AND DICKER TO REPRESENT THE TOWN AND REQUESTED GREENBERG POLICE PERSONNEL AND THE MA MATTER OF, UH, KRISTEN STEIN VERSUS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000.
RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RETENTION OF KENNETH PITT OF THE LAW FIRM OF MA DUFFY, ALONSO, FAY, AND PITCOCK TO REPRESENT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IN RESPONSE TO APPEAL OF THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION LAW REQUEST OF VIA SHARES STOCKER, THE JOURNAL NEWS PREVIOUSLY HANDLED BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY WHO WAS APPOINTED BY, UH, TO THE COURT OF CLAIMS BENCH, WITH LITTLE NOTICE FOR AN, UH, UH, WITH, FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $25,000.
RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RETENTION OF KENNETH TUFF, UH, OF THE LAW FIRM OF MORRIS DUFFY, UH, ALONSO LEY AND TUFF TO REPRESENT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THE MATTER OF GWINNETTE COMPANY D B A, DEMOCRAT AND CHRONICLE THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR AN AMOUNT NOW TO EXCEED 25,000.
THE CLOSE THE WE CLOSE THE MEETING.
UM, UM, UM, PAUL, DID YOU OPEN THE MEETING? YEAH.
WHO SECOND PAUL MOVED TO OPEN MEETING.
WHO SECONDED THE OPENING? DOES ANYONE REMEMBER WHO OPENED WAS? I DON'T THINK I, I DON'T THINK I SECONDED.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, DID I SECOND? I'LL SECOND JUST PUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN LIST ME DOWN.
JEROME, BARB, PRO CHAMP BENEFITS.
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GOOD EVENING.CAN YOU HEAR ME HERE? HI JERRY.
HOW ARE YOU? I ASSUME SCOTT IS WITH YOU.
UH, SCOTT IS WITH ME ON A, UH, PHONE CALL, RIGHT? UH, THERE HE IS.
SO IF YOU COULD TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT PRO CHAMP BENEFITS IS? UH, SURE.
SUPERVISOR, I HAVE A, UM, I HAVE A, A VERY QUICK PRESENTATION THAT, UH, REALLY EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH ME.
MY NAME IS, UH, JEROME BERRIO.
UH, WITH ME, I HAVE, UH, SCOTT BAISLEY.
HE'S THE, UM, GOVERNMENT RELATIONS DIRECTOR FOR PRO CHAMPS.
UM, AND WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE, UH, THE TIME THAT YOU PROVIDED US.
UH, I KNOW THAT, UM, EVERY, EVERY TOWN COUNCIL HAS A VERY BUSY AGENDA, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE 10, 15 MINUTES THAT YOU'RE AFFORDING US.
SO WHAT PRO CHAMPS DOES IS, UM, IT HELPS REGISTER, IT HELPS TOWNS REGISTER, UH, FORECLOSED PROPERTIES, AND, UM, PROVIDES A REVENUE STREAM FOR THE TOWNS TO, UH, UTILIZE, UM, A REVENUE SHARING MODEL TO, UM, HELP WITH THE, UM, UNCHECKED PROPERTIES TO HELP WITH SALARIES FOR, UH, BUILDING DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT PROPERTIES ARE SECURE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THERE'S A, A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO INCREASE IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY BECAUSE OF FORECLOSED PROPERTIES.
AND, UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, PRO CHAMPS HAS, UH, OVER 270 PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
MANY OF THEM IN, UH, NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY.
ACTUALLY, NOT MANY IN NEW YORK.
NEW JERSEY IS VERY BIG, UM, WITH PRO CHAMPS IN NEW YORK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OVER 20 COMMUNITIES.
AND TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT AN AT RISK PROPERTY IS, AN AT RISK PROPERTY IS EITHER VACANT OR ABANDONED AND TYPICALLY FORECLOSED.
AND, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES.
UM, SO WHAT WE PROVIDE IS THE ABILITY FOR A REGISTRATION PLATFORM THAT THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY HAS TO REGISTER.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, THERE'S A FEE.
THE FEE IS A, A, A SHARED FEE THAT THE COMMUNITY AND PRO CHAMPS SHARES.
BUT WHAT WE DO IS WE HELP YOU MAINTAIN, UM, THE INFORMATION SO THAT YOUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND YOUR, AND MANY TIMES THE TOWN BOARD HAS THE ANSWER, UH, UH, TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT, UH, PROPERTY, UM, IS WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY, WHAT CONDITION IT'S IN.
AND IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THAT INFORMATION.
AND SO IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE DECLINE IN PROPERTY VALUE, UM, AND TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT THERE'S THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND, AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, LOCATING AND IDENTIFYING THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR ABANDONED PROPERTIES ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
THE BENEFITS WE PROVIDE IS, IS WE HAVE A LOT OF EFFICIENCIES THROUGH AUTOMATION.
UH, WE IMPROVE PROPERTY COMPLIANCE.
WE ACTUALLY WILL ASSIST THE COMMUNITY IN ISSUING AN O T R OR A CITATION.
UM, WE MAKE SURE THAT THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY IS, IS ACCOUNTABLE.
WE HELP, UH, THE TOWN, UH, TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, WITH A MODEL ORDINANCE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AND, AND PROVIDE GUIDANCE OF HOW THE ORDINANCE, UH, UM, SHOULD BE WRITTEN.
WE HAVE, UH, SUCCESSFULLY IN NEW YORK, UM, HELPED, UH, OVER 20 COMMUNITIES.
AS I SAID BEFORE, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS AND WE ALSO, UM, TRY TO DRIVE SUCCESS IN THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE TWO CRITICAL THINGS ARE, ARE CRITICAL DATA THAT'S COLLECTED AND, AND ALSO FUNDING.
AND, AND I KNOW I'VE SHARED WITH THE TOWN BOARD, AT LEAST WITH THE SUPERVISOR, I'M SURE WITH THE TOWN BOARD, UM, IN MY PREVIOUS COMMUNITY OF HAMILTON, NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY, WE STARTED TO APPROACH CHAMPS IN 2016.
AND AT THAT TIME WE HAD, UH, 200, 200 FORECLOSURES, 208, EXACTLY.
UH, HAMILTON HAPPENS TO BE A VETERAN COMMUNITY OF ATLANTIC CITY.
ATLANTIC CITY WAS GOING THROUGH A TOUGH TIME.
AND SO, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAD THE ABILITY TO FIND, UM, THE OWNERS AND THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES OF THE LIQUID PROPERTIES HELPED CLEAN UP THE COMMUNITY SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE GRASS CUT, WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE BACK DOORS,
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UH, UM, UM, SECURED A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR FROM THE MUNICIPALITY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, UM, UNWANTED ACTIVITY IN THESE PROPERTIES, WHICH THEY HAVE TO LIVE, LIVE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS IS, UH, EXACT, LET ME, YES.THIS IS NOT ONLY TOWN FORECLOSED PROPERTIES.
THIS IS, UH, BANK FORECLOSED PROPERTIES AND ISRS ALSO.
SO, SO THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL, UH, FACET SUPERVISOR OF THE REGISTRATION FORECLOSED PROPERTIES.
IS, IS THE, UM, IS THE MODEL, UM, IS THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE HANDLES, BUT THEN WE COULD ALSO, UH, LOOK AT, UH, HOW TO HANDLE VACANT PROPERTIES AS WELL.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS? YEAH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I GET LIKE A LOT OF, UH, COMPLAINTS ABOUT EYESORE AND PEOPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MAY, SOME OF THE PROPERTIES MAY, UH, BE UP TO DATE ON THE TOWN, UH, TAX, YOU KNOW, TAX BILLS, BUT THEY MAY OWE MONEY TO THE BANK, SO RIGHT.
SO YOU WOULD BASICALLY BE, UH, SERVING, YOU KNOW, BOTH TYPES OF FORECLOSURES, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE LEARNED IN, IN, IN TON.
THAT'S WHAT WE LEARNED IS WE REALLY WEREN'T AWARE THAT THERE WERE THESE, UM, FORECLOSED PROPERTIES FOR ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WE WEREN'T REALLY GETTING ANY PHONE CALLS.
WE WEREN'T, UH, GETTING PHONE CALLS UNTIL THE GRASS WAS TOO HIGH, OR THE PROPERTY WAS, WAS IN, IN CHANNELS, TRUTHFULLY.
UM, AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO FIND OUT THAT, THAT THEY WERE FORECLOSED AND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FIND OUT THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY.
WE COULDN'T DO THAT ON OUR OWN, UH, UNTIL WE STARTED TO PARTNER UP WITH, UH, PRO CHAMPS.
UH, AND THE BENEFIT OF PRO CHAMPS IS THAT FOR THE TOWN OF HAMILTON, WHAT THEY CREATED WAS A REVENUE STREAM FOR US TO HELP US HIRE A 30 HOUR PER WEEK CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO KNOCK DOWN, UH, TWO PROPERTIES, UH, THAT WERE, UH, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURES THAT WERE DILAPIDATED AND, AND IN, IN, UH, IN VERY POOR CONDITION.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES AS WELL, ALL FROM THE REVENUE THAT I SHARED WITH THE TOWN BOARD THAT THE, UH, TOWN OF HAMILTON COLLECTED OVER OVER THE YEARS.
THIS IS A, A VERY, UH, UH, BUSY SLIDE, AND I WON'T GO OVER, UH, TOO MUCH OF IT, BUT, UM, ONE THING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE IS WE COLLECT ALL FEES RELATED TO THE REGISTRATION OBLIGATION, AND WE REMIT THOSE FEES, UH, DIRECTLY, UH, BACK TO THE TOWN.
SO THERE IS NO, UM, ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
YOU BASICALLY WILL RECEIVE A, A REMITTANCE CHECK, UH, ON A REGULAR BASIS, UH, FROM THE, UH, FROM FROM PRO CHAMPS.
UM, ONE OTHER THING IS THAT, AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TOWARDS THE END OF THE SLIDE, IS TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE, IS WE MONITOR AND UPDATE ALL RESPONSIBLE PARTY INFORMATION, AND WE TRACK THIRD PARTY TRANSFERS.
SO OUR MODEL BASICALLY IS A SIX MONTH REGISTRATION MODEL WHERE EVERY SIX MONTHS, THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY WOULD HAVE TO, UH, REGISTER THE PROPERTY.
UH, THAT REGISTRATION TYPICALLY IS, UM, A $500 FEE OF WHICH PRO CHAMPS, UH, KEEPS $125 AND REMITS BACK TO THE, UH, TO THE TOWN, $375 FOR EVERY SIX MONTHS.
SO, IN FACT, UH, IN MY NEXT SLIDE, UM, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT, UM, UH, THE FEE SHARING, UM, STRUCTURE REALLY IS NO POCKET, NO OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS FOR THE MUNICIPALITY.
UM, AS I SAID, IT IS USED FOR SUPPLEMENTAL ENFORCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE ACTIVITIES.
IT'S ALSO USED FOR ANY TYPE OF ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS THAT YOU WANT TO CREATE, UH, WITH THIS REVENUE.
UH, IN, IN OUR CASE, IN HAMILTON, NEW JERSEY, WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL AT HELPING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT GROW.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ADD STAFF, AND WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE, UH, THE NUMBER OF I SOURCE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY IN GREENBERG.
AND THE MAP ON THE, UH, ON MY SCREEN, ON ON MY LEFT, UH, SHOWS YOU IN 2017, 18 AND 19, HAD AROUND AVERAGE ABOUT 200 FORECLOSURES.
UM, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AT 65 CURRENT FORECLOSURES WITH 34 POTENTIAL BASED ON, BASED ON OUR RESOURCES.
UH, WHAT YOU ALSO HAVE IS, AND THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN NEW JERSEY AND HOW THEY DO THINGS, OBVIOUSLY HERE IN THE, THE VILLAGES ARE PART OF THE TOWN.
AND UNLESS THE VILLAGE HAS SOME KIND OF A, A AGREEMENT OR STRUCTURE TO HANDLE THEIR, UM, THEIR FORECLOSURES, THE TOWN HANDLES THEIR FORECLOSURES.
SO IN FACT, THE TOWN OF BURG, IF YOU INCLUDE ALL OF THE, UM, ALL OF THE VILLAGES IN THE TOWN HAS 145, UH, FORECLOSURES.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE REVENUE, UM, SHARING MODEL THAT WE HAVE THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO REALIZE OVER $108,000 PER YEAR, UM, IN THE REVENUE SHARING MODEL THAT WE WOULD, UM, UM, THAT THE ORDINANCE, UH, WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
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THAT'S 108.CURRENTLY, IF YOU LOOK AT DOUBLING THAT, UM, TYPICALLY, UM, AND YOU LOOK AT THE 2017, 18, AND 19 NUMBERS, YOU'D PROBABLY REALIZE WHEN FORECLOSURES REALLY START TO, TO RAMP UP AGAIN IN, UNFORTUNATELY, IN OUR TIME, UM, IT PROBABLY IS GOING TO, UM, DOUBLE, AT LEAST WITHIN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN REVENUE TO BE ABLE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY DEAL WITH FORECLOSURES, MAKE SURE THEY'RE REGISTERED, MAKE SURE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY IS DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING REGARDING MAINTENANCE, AND TO HOPEFULLY INCENTIVIZE THESE BANKS TO GET THEM ALL OFF THEIR ROLE AND, AND TO GET THEM TO GET THEM, YOU KNOW, SOLD AND, AND, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, OCCUPIED AGAIN BY YOUNG FAMILIES OR, OR, OR INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKE ON A FORECLOSED PROPERTY AND RENOVATED AND MAKE IT, UM, YOU KNOW, BECOME PART OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S REALLY MY PRESENTATION.
I'M GONNA STOP, STOP, UH, SHARING NOW, WHICH MUNICIPALITIES, AND NOW THAT I HAVE SCOTT ON THERE, OH, SCOTT, UH, SUPERVISOR WILL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU, UH, IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, UH, WITH A LIVE DEMO, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE TOWN OF ISLIP, UH, ON LONG ISLAND, WHICH HAS BEEN, WHICH HAS HAD, UH, A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH OUR PROGRAM, THEY HAVE A LOT MORE FORECLOSURES THAN, THAN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG DOES.
BUT, UM, THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS.
JERRY, WHO PAYS THE $500 FEE? THE RES THE, THE MORTGAGE E PAYS, THE, THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY PAYS THE, UH, THE $500 FEE.
SO IF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BANK INVOLVED AND THE PERSON CAN'T AFFORD THE PROPERTY TAXES, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA PAY $500 EVERY SIX MONTHS TO STAY ON A LIST TO BE FORECLOSED? RIGHT.
SO, UM, SO THE COMPLIANCE ISN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THESE FORECLOSURES.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT SCOTT WILL BE ABLE TO, TO MAYBE ANSWER THAT QUESTION A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN I CAN REGARDING, UM, NON-BANK OWNED, UH, PROPERTIES.
UH, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME ONCE AGAIN AND YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, I'M ACTUALLY A RETIRED PUBLIC SERVANT MYSELF.
I'M A RETIRED CO-DIRECTOR OF 27 YEARS DOWN HERE IN SONY, SOUTH FLORIDA.
AND I'VE BEEN WITH PRO CHAMP SINCE I RETIRED IN 2011.
UH, BEFORE I DO A QUICK DEMO, UH, AND JERRY, I HATE TO THROW YOU A CURVE BALL, BUT, UH, THE DEMO I'M DOING IS IN CLARKSTOWN.
UM, NO PARTICULAR REASON I CAN DO A DEMO OF ANY COMMUNITY IN NEW YORK.
WE HAVE OVER 20 PARTNERS IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
UH, ONE THING I WANT TO GET SOME CLARITY ON FROM THE COUNCIL IS THE, THE MATTER OF BANK FORECLOSURES VERSUS, UH, TOWN FORECLOSURES.
UM, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND IT, UH, IT'S NOT A QUESTION MORE THAN SO AM I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT IS ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW IS NOT JUST BANK FORECLOSURES, BUT FORECLOSURES THAT HAVE BEEN INITIATED BY THE TOWN.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S MORE EXTENSIVE THAN JUST THE TOWN FORECLOSURES, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TOWN FORECLOSURES.
YEAH, IT WAS MORE CLARIFICATION THAN ANYTHING.
OUR, OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS FOCUSED ON BANK FORECLOSURES.
UM, NOW YOU SAY TOWN FORECLOSURES, I, I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT'S DUE ON PAID TAXES BASED ON AN EARLIER COMMENT.
SO, WHICH MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? IF THEY'RE NOT PAYING THEIR TAXES, THEN THE QUESTION IS WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA PAY, UM, THE $500 YOU'RE SPOT ON.
UM, WE'RE STRICTLY IN THE MORTGAGE FORECLOSURE, UH, REGISTRATION REALM WHERE WE GET 85 TO 90% REGISTRATION COMPLIANCE.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE I GET INTO THE PLATFORM.
WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN FORECLOSURES THAT ARE OF A PRIVATE NATURE OR, UH, FOR UNPAID TAXES.
UH, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
AND THERE'S DIFFERENT MECHANISMS TYPICALLY IN PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS TAX FORECLOSURES.
UM, AND I GET THE, I GET THE CHALLENGES, UH, THE TAX CERTIFICATE SALES AND ALL THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
UH, BUT THIS, THIS BUSINESS MODEL AND WHAT WE PROVIDE IS STRICTLY MORTGAGE FORECLOSURE.
IT HELPS, BUT IT DOESN'T COMPLETELY SOLVE OUR PROBLEM,
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WHEN YOU HAVE A BANK INVOLVED, WHEN THEY SEE THAT THE, UH, PENALTIES AND INTEREST STARTING TO ESCALATE AND THEY FORECLOSE, THEY'LL PAY IT OFF.AND NOW THEY OWN THE PROPERTY.
UH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T HAVE A MORTGAGE.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY MANY OF THEM ARE OLDER PEOPLE.
THEY PAID OFF THEIR MORTGAGE, BUT NOW THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR TAXES.
AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE D MORE DIFFICULT.
AND THAT'S WHY IT LED TO MY QUESTION IS IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE TAXES, WHY WOULD THEY PAY $500 EVERY SIX MONTHS TO STAY ON A LIST TO BE FORECLOSED? EXACTLY.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND, UH, YEAH, WHEN YOU GET, WE ACTUALLY, UH, SOME YEARS BACK, AND JERRY CAN RELATE TO THIS BECAUSE HE WAS A MANAGER IN NEW JERSEY, UH, WE ALSO INCLUDED THEIR TAX FORECLOSURES IN OUR BUSINESS MODEL.
AND, UM, THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS OF A LEGAL NATURE THAT TOOK PLACE.
AND IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ELIMINATED ANY RISK, NOT ONLY ON OUR BEHALF, BUT ON THE COMMUNITY'S BEHALF, WE, WE GOT OUT OF THE TAX FORECLOSURE REGISTRATION BUSINESS.
UH, IT BRINGS INTO, YOU KNOW, BRINGS INTO PLACE OF OTHER ENTITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, MORTGAGE, FORECLOSURES, THE BANKS ARE KIND, IT'S COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY EXIST AND HOW WE DO IT SO FORTH.
SO, SO YEAH, TAX FORECLOSURES, UH, A DIFFERENT ANIMAL AND A DIFFERENT CHALLENGE.
UH, I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO MEET WITH YOU FOLKS AND OR STAFF TO KIND OF STRATEGIZE AROUND THAT.
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN AROUND CODE ENFORCEMENT NOW 35, 40 YEARS, AND I'VE SEEN ALL KINDS OF STRATEGIES.
UH, SOME GOOD, SOME NOT SO GOOD.
UH, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE ANY KNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE THAT, UH, MAY HELP THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY MY JOB, UM, IS TO MAINTAIN AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES AND TO HELP THEM STRATEGIZE AROUND ALL PROPERTIES, AS JERRY MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO, THAT ARE CONSIDERED A, A RISK TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, SO MY SERVICES ARE ALWAYS THERE.
BUT WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ADO, UH, IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE I CAN, UH, LET'S SEE WHETHER THAT'S A SCREENSHOT.
WHERE AM I HERE? I THINK I'M RIGHT HERE.
UM, JUST ONE THING TO ADD TO JERRY'S PRESENTATION EARLIER.
UM, OUR FORECLOSURE REGISTRATION IS JUST HUGELY PROACTIVE.
UH, WE PURCHASED ALL THE LIZ PEN FILINGS, UH, IN YOUR PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, SO WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY FORECLOSURE FILINGS YOU HAVE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, WHICH JERRY ILLUSTRATED ON A SLIDE A LITTLE EARLIER.
UH, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE REAL WORK STARTS FOR US.
WE THEN, UH, REVIEW ALL THOSE FILINGS AGAINST ALL YOUR PUBLIC RECORDS TO MAKE SURE THAT OBLIGATION TO REGISTER OR O T R, UH, IS VALID, UH, PURSUANT TO YOUR ORDINANCE.
AND THEN WE PROVIDE NOTIFICATIONS TO ALL THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES, RIGHT? WE ID THE MORTGAGE E WE ID THE MORTGAGE SERVICER, AND THEN WE PURSUE, UH, REGISTRATION VIA ELECTRONIC MAIL NOTIFICATIONS TO THOSE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES.
AND THE ULTIMATE PRODUCT OF THAT IS YOU GET REGISTRATION COMPLIANCE.
AND THE HIDDEN BENEFIT, UH, THAT ONLY THE CODE OFFICERS ON THE STREET SEAT IS THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE COMPLIANCE WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO GET INVOLVED.
UH, 'CAUSE WHAT IT DOES BASICALLY IS IT MAKES THE MORTGAGEE AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN YOUR COMMUNITY, UH, TO INCLUDE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS.
SO OUR, OUR MODEL ORDINANCE REQUIRES THE PROPERTY BE INSPECTED A MINIMUM OF EVERY 30 DAYS.
AND WHEN IT BECOMES VACANT, THEN THE MAINTENANCE STARTS RIGHT AWAY.
'CAUSE TYPICALLY, THE PROPERTY PRESERVATION FOLKS ARE THE ONES DOING THE INSPECTIONS.
SO THEY'RE MOTIVATED BY THE WORK, THE WORK OPPORTUNITY THERE.
AND WHEN IT BECOMES VACANT, THEY START DOING THE MAINTENANCE.
SO IT REDUCES THE NASTY PHONE CALLS FROM NEIGHBORS, UM, THAT IT TAKES SOME OF THE WORKLOAD OFF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SO THEY CAN FOCUS ON OTHER WORK ENDEAVORS.
UH, BUT THAT'S THE REAL VALUE.
AND THEN THE PLATFORM, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HERE, I'M SHARING WITH YOU NOW, KIND OF COMPLETES THAT, UM, THAT TOOLBOX VALUE, IF YOU'LL, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE SEEING A MAP.
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OKAY.AND THIS IS CLARKSTOWN, AND I PICKED CLARKSTOWN BECAUSE IT'S A SMALLER COMMUNITY.
UH, WE HAVE COMMUNITIES WITH SIX FORECLOSURES.
WE HAVE COMMUNITIES WITH 1500 FORECLOSURES OR MORE.
I HAD AN ATTORNEY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAD TWO FORECLOSURES AT THE TIME, SAY, I KNOW ALL IT TAKES IS ONE FORECLOSURE TO BE A PROBLEM, UH, BECAUSE I POINT BLANK ASKING, THIS WAS YEARS AGO.
I SAID, ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU ONLY HAVE A COUPLE.
UM, AND IT WAS AN OCEANFRONT COMMUNITY WITH HIGH END HOMES, BUT VERY CANDIDLY SAID, HEY, I, IF I GOT ONE PROBLEM AND THIS TAKES CARE OF IT, I'D RATHER DO THIS.
AND IT DOESN'T COST ME ANYTHING.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF BELLS AND WHISTLES HERE.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF 'EM.
SO I KNOW YOU HAVE A TIGHT SCHEDULE.
UH, IT WORKS LIKE ANY INTERNAL SOFTWARE MECHANISM DOES CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THERE'S A SEARCH FUNCTION HERE WHERE YOU CAN JUST CLICK ON IT AND TYPE IN AN ADDRESS.
UH, IF YOU PARTNER WITH US, UH, WE PULL ALL YOUR FI YOUR LAND FILE DATA FROM YOUR PROPERTY APPRAISER, TAX COLLECTOR, UH, ET CETERA.
SO EVERY PROPERTY IN YOUR COMMUNITY IS IN THIS PLATFORM.
WHAT THESE DOTS REPRESENT IN CLARKSTOWN, AND I PICKED CLARKSTOWN 'CAUSE THEY'VE ONLY BEEN WITH US A LITTLE OVER A MONTH.
UH, AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S KIND OF A SIMILAR SIZE COMMUNITY.
UH, THE GREEN DOTS ARE FULLY REGISTERED AND COMPLIANT PROPERTIES.
THE YELLOW DOTS MEANS THAT THEY'VE PAID THEIR REGISTRATION, BUT THEY'RE MISSING SOME DATA.
AND, UH, IT'S NOT A GREAT TOOL UNLESS YOU HAVE ALL THE DATA.
SO I'M GONNA PICK A PROPERTY HERE AT RANDOM.
UH, I NEED MY GLASSES GETTING TOO OLD FOR THIS
SO REAL QUICK, UH, YOU CAN SEE THIS INFORMATION HERE COMES RIGHT FROM THE PUBLIC RECORD, RIGHT? IT IS GOT THE, UH, PROPERTY CONTROL NUMBER OR TAX ID, DEPENDING ON WHICH STATE IT'S IN.
UH, WE HAVE A MAPPING COMPONENT.
UH, TYPICALLY MOST COMMUNITIES HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, G I S PLATFORM.
UH, AND THE COOL THING ABOUT THIS PLATFORM IS IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT TRANSPARENT.
EVERYTHING THAT'S IN HERE, UH, IT'S SO DESIRED BY THE COMMUNITY, UH, THEY CAN IMPORT INTO THEIR G I S PLATFORM OR THEIR INTERNAL, UH, ENFORCEMENT PLATFORMS. UH, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE REAL QUICK, THIS DASHBOARD, IT'S FULLY REGISTERED.
UH, THERE'S NO PROPERTY VIOLATIONS.
THERE'S A PUBLIC NOTICE OF DEFAULT.
IT'S STILL OWNER OCCUPIED, AND IT WAS LAST INSPECTED APRIL 14TH OF 22.
AND RIGHT BELOW YOU CAN SEE ALL THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY DATA.
THIS IS KIND OF THE, FOR KNS OF OUR FORECLOSURE REGISTRY PROGRAM.
UM, SO WHAT YOU HAVE UP HERE IS DEUTSCHE BANK, UH, IS THE NEO O M T STANDS FOR OWNER MORTGAGEE OR TRUSTEE, UM, IN THIS CASE, THE MORTGAGEE, UH, THE A M S IS THE ASSET MANAGER OR MORTGAGE SERVICER, AND THE PROPERTY MANAGER IS LISTED BELOW.
AND THEN THERE'S A, A LEGAL AGENT AS WELL.
I THINK CLARKS TOWN'S ORDINANCE MAY REQUIRE A LEGAL AGENT FOR ACCEPTANCE OF SERVICE OF NOTICES FROM THE, THE TOWN.
ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S A VILLAGE OF CLARKSTOWN, OR NO, IT'S ATOMIC CLARKSTOWN.
ANYWAY, ALL THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY DATA IS HERE.
SO IT IS A HUGE TOOL, RIGHT? SO IN ESSENCE, IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM ON A PROPERTY, THEY CAN GO INTO THEIR LAPTOP OR GO BACK IN THE OFFICE OR GO TO THEIR SMARTPHONE AND SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT A, UH, UNSECURED POOL HERE.
UH, THEY HAVE CODE CASE NUMBERS, THEY CAN PUT IT HERE.
THEY CAN UPDATE THE PROPERTY'S, UH, OCCUPANCY STATUS, AND THEY CAN ADD FILES.
SO THEY CAN ADD DOCUMENTS AND PHOTOS AND HIT SUBMIT.
AND IT GOES BY ELECTRONIC MAIL TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DEUTSCHE BANK HAS OFF AUTHORIZED TO TAKE ACTION ON BEHALF OF, UM, THEIR COMPANY.
SO,
SO WHAT MAKES IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT IN THAT YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR SOFTWARE VERSUS WE HAVE IT IN OURS, AND WE GAVE YOU THE DATA TO BEGIN WITH? GREAT QUESTION.
THE DATA WE'RE PULLING IS TYPICALLY FROM THE COUNTY, UH, THAT YOU'RE LOCATED IN, UH, PROPERTY APPRAISER RECORDS, UH, TAX COLLECTOR RECORDS.
I KNOW THE VERBIAGE OR THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENTS ARE DIFFERENT STATE BY STATE.
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CLERK OF COURT, WE WE'RE NOT PULLING ANY CITY RECORDS.UH, WE'RE SIMPLY PULLING WHAT'S ALREADY PUBLIC RECORD.
WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE, UH, IN ALL THAT, FIRST OF ALL, IS YOU DON'T KNOW THE PROPERTIES IN FORECLOSURE YET.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING YOU, UM, REAL TIME REVIEW.
ACTUALLY, IT'S A WEEKLY REVIEW OF ALL THE, THE LIST PENDINGS THAT ARE FILED IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE KNOW THAT PROPERTY'S IN FORECLOSURE.
THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOWS IT'S IN FORECLOSURE OR GOING INTO FORECLOSURE BEFORE US IS PROBABLY THE PROPERTY OWNER, BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED LETTERS, IS DEFAULT.
SO YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE DATA WE'RE PULLING IS FROM THE COUNTY, AND IT'S BASICALLY JUST, IT'S LAND RECORDS.
OKAY? IT IS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FORECLOSURE ITSELF.
UM, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO THE, THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND FIND A LIZ PENDANTS WITH DES BANK ON IT, THAT'S THE ONLY INFORMATION YOU HAVE.
YOU'RE NOT THE LIZ PENDANTS DOESN'T TELL YOU WHO'S SERVICING THE MORTGAGE.
IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHO THE PROPERTY PRESERVATION COMPANY IS.
ALL THAT IS DONE THROUGH THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, IF YOU HAVE A CODE VIOLATION ON A PROPERTY, DEU BANK ISN'T GONNA FIX IT.
IT IS THE ASSET MANAGER WHO'S GOING TO HAVE THE PROPERTY PRESERVATION COMPANY FIX IT.
SO, JUST TO REITERATE, THE DATA WE GET FROM THE COUNTY IS MORE OF A REC, A LAND RECORD, UH, DATA.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT TO KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTIES ARE.
THEY'RE ALL GEOCODED OBVIOUSLY.
BUT THIS INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE, YOU DON'T HAVE, I WOULD BE TO, I WOULD BEG TO DIFFER.
WE HAVE TO KNOW WHO THE MORTGAGE COMPANY IS BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE WHO WE SEND THE TAX BILL TO.
UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE DON'T DEAL WITH THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE OUR OWN ASSESSMENT AND WE PUT OUT OUR OWN ASSESSMENT ROLE.
BUT YOU STILL DON'T HAVE THIS OTHER RESPONSIBLE PARTY INFORMATION, NOR DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH 'EM IN AN EXPEDIENT MANNER, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE TO HOLD 'EM ACCOUNTABLE TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTIES, AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO HANDLE ALL THE REGISTRATION ADMINISTRATION, AND TO HANDLE ALL THE CUSTOMER SUPPORT FROM THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES.
UH, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE PROVIDE IN ADDITION TO THIS, THAT, UH, IF YOU WERE TO GO, IF YOU WERE TO GO IN ON YOUR OWN AND SEND A NOTICE TO DES BANK, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA RESPOND.
UM, I'VE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT.
UH, THE PEOPLE YOU REALLY NEED TO BE COMMUNICATING WITH ARE THESE BOTTOM THREE PEOPLE, NOT BANK DE BANK.
THEIR OFFICE IS LOCATED IN CALIFORNIA.
I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH 'EM AND, UM, YEAH, YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE.
UH, SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU HAVE YOUR OWN ASSESSOR.
THAT'S, UH, OBVIOUSLY IT MAKES THINGS MORE EFFICIENT, BUT YOU SIMPLY CAN'T RUN A REGISTRATION PROGRAM OFF OF THIS PATENT.
YOU KNOW, THE, I MEAN, WHAT I SORT OF SEE AS AN ADVANTAGE IS PR EVERY UH, YEAR I GET AT LEAST SIX OR SEVEN, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES THAT ARE TOTAL IS SOURCE.
LAST WEEK, I THINK I GOT HAD TWO OR THREE, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS AND THE RESIDENTS.
UM, ONCE SOMETHING DONE, IT TAKES A REALLY LONG TIME.
THEY FEEL THAT IT'S A DEVALUATION OF, UM, PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE IMPRESSION I HAVE FROM THIS PRESENTATION IS THAT YOU WOULD BE DOING A LOT OF THE WORK THAT NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, IF THE TOWN HAD A LOT MORE STAFF, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO, BUT YOU, YOU'RE BASICALLY HANDLING A LOT OF THE, THE WORK AND MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPEDITE GETTING RID OF SOME OF THESE ICE SOURCES.
WOULD, WOULD THAT BE ACCURATE? UH, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY ACCURATE.
WE ACTUALLY DO ALL OF THE WORK.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERS WITH US THAT DON'T LEVERAGE THE TOOL THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU, AND WE GET ALL THE PROPERTIES REGISTERED AND THEY'RE MAINTAINED AND THEY DON'T, ALL THEY DO IS GET THE CHECK EVERY MONTH.
SO THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE PROGRAM, BUT THAT'S YOUR STATEMENT'S SPOT ON.
BECAUSE I, I SEND A LOT OF EMAILS TO OUR CODE ENFORCERS AND, YOU KNOW, I'M ASKING THEM TO, UH, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, AND THEY, THEY TRY DOING AS GOOD A JOB AS POSSIBLE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, LIMITATIONS AS TO HOW, HOW FAST
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WE COULD, YOU KNOW, EXPEDITE IT.SO I, I SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF, UM, YOU KNOW, POS POSITIVES AND CLARKSTOWN IS ALMOST LIKE A SISTER MUNICIPALITY TO GREENBURG, RIGHT? 'CAUSE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, YOU KNOW, IT IS, THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE PRETTY SIMILAR MM-HMM.
UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO COST TO THE TOWN.
NO, THERE'S NO COST TO THE TOWN.
AND WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU RIGHT NOW IS JUST THEIR ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT JERRY MENTIONED EARLIER, THE SIX MONTH RENEWAL, THE REGISTRATION FEE, UH, THE FILING REQUIREMENTS.
AND BY THE WAY, ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES IN NEW YORK ARE REFERENCABLE.
UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD ATTORNEYS IN NEW YORK INSTITUTE OUR PROGRAM IN ONE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN WHEN THEY MOVE TO ANOTHER ONE, CALL ME UP AND SAY, I, WE GOTTA GET THAT PROGRAM IN THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A PROVEN, UH, IT'S A RESOURCE SAVER.
I MEAN, YOU KIND OF HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD.
UM, SO WE SET, I'M SHOWING YOU THE REMITTANCE SCREEN RIGHT HERE.
SO CLARKSTOWN, YOU'D HAVE TO SHARE, YOU'D HAVE TO SHARE.
IT'S NOT SHARING AGAIN, YOU'D HAVE TO SHARE IT AGAIN.
I TOOK IT OFF BECAUSE IT WAS STAYING UP FOR SO LONG.
AND THEN THE SUPERVISOR WAS SPEAKING AND I WANTED TO BE ON CAMERA.
OH, CALL THE, UH, SO IF, IF THE PROPERTY'S AN EYESORE, THE GRASS IS TOO HIGH, WHO CUTS IT AND WHO PAYS THE PERSON WHO CUTS IT? UH, THE PROPERTY PRESERVATION COMPANY MAINTAINS THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? AND THE MORTGAGE, THE ASSET MANAGER, THE MORTGAGE SERVICER IS THE ONE THAT PAYS THAT.
THE BANK, THE BANK IS ABOVE THE FRAY.
I MEAN, IF YOU CAN PICTURE BANK OF AMERICA, WELLS FARGO, DEUTSCHE BANK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SITTING IN A BIG BUILDING ON WALL STREET OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, UH, SOME OTHER HIGH POLLUTANT PLACE.
YOU CAN SEND 'EM LETTERS AND MAKE PHONE CALLS ALL DAY.
THEY'RE NOT MANAGING THESE PROPERTIES.
THEY HIRE, THEY CONTRACT SERVICERS TO MANAGE 'EM.
AND WE ALL GET NOTICES RIGHT FROM TIME TO TIME FROM OUR LETTING US KNOW OUR SERVICING HAS CHANGED.
SO SERVICERS CHANGE ALL THE TIME.
AND THAT, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE SIX MONTH.
UH, 'CAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DATA YOU HAVE IS UP TO DATE AND ACCURATE.
UH, IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD FOR STAFF TO CALL A MORTGAGE SERVICER AND HAVE 'EM SAY, WELL, WE SOLD THE SERVICING ON THAT THREE MONTHS AGO.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE SEMI-ANNUAL REGISTRATION.
UM, OUT OF OUR 280 PLUS PARTNERS, MORE THAN HALF HAVE THE SEMI-ANNUAL $500 FEE.
UM, GETTING BACK TO THE SCREEN, UH, THE FIRST REVANCE CHECK, UH, JUST WENT UP TODAY TO CLARKSTOWN FOR 46,000, $40.
MY EYES AREN'T QUITE, I THINK 31 PRO.
SO ON THE FIRST MONTH, NOW THEY DON'T ONLY HAVE, I DON'T THINK I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
THEY DON'T HAVE MORE THAN PROBABLY 150 PROPERTIES.
SO WE'VE ALREADY REGISTERED 115 IN THE FIRST 45 DAYS OR SO.
ANYBODY THAT'S EVER REGISTERED HAS REGISTERED A PROPERTY WITH US.
UH, WE HAVE A PROPRIETARY DATABASE WITH RESPONSIBLE PARTIES IN IT NUMBERING OVER 7,000.
AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE TEAMS OF AGENTS THAT SUPPORT NOT ONLY GOVERNMENT, BUT THEY ALSO SUPPORT THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES.
SO IF I WERE TO GO INTO THIS AND PICK A PROPERTY BACK OUT, I WON'T DO IT NOW 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING IT A WHILE.
BUT YOU CAN SEE CORRESPONDENCE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN US AND THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES, A MINIMUM OF TWICE A YEAR.
AND THAT'S IF EVERYTHING'S GOING SMOOTHLY.
SO IT'S, UH, AGAIN, WE DO ALL THE WORK.
SO YEAH, THAT'S, YOU MAY HAVE SOME OF THE DATA, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ALL YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IS A MORTGAGE E I I'VE LOOKED AT A MILLION E PENNANTS, AND THAT'S ALL YOU GET.
AND IF YOU CALL THE ATTORNEY FOR THE PLAINTIFF WHO'S THE MORTGAGE E UH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HELP YOU UNLESS YOU WRITE 'EM A CHECK.
SCOTT, SCOTT, IF I COULD, I THINK WE GET THE GENERAL BUSINESS MODEL RIGHT? RIGHT.
YEAH, I THINK, UH, I MEAN, WE CAN TAKE THIS IN-HOUSE.
UH, WE CAN TALK WITH, UH, SOME OF OUR PEOPLE.
WE'LL SHOW THEM THIS VIDEO AND, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WILL REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD.
I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, UM, THE BEST APPROACH TO DO THAT.
'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
NEXT, UH, WE HAVE NEXT WE HAVE ROBERTA.
ROBERTA WILL BE GIVING A PRELIMINARY BUDGET ANALYSIS.
IS SHE IN PERSON? OH, HERE SHE IS.
WHAT TIMING? SHE WATCHED THIS ON TV, RIGHT? ON THE WEB.
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HELLO.SO YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE RECESSION? THAT'S A JOKE.
SO JUST REAL QUICKLY, I JUST HAVE PRINTOUTS HERE FROM, UM, I TOOK THIS, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN EUNICE AS OF TODAY, JUST TO GET AN IDEA AS TO WHERE, WHERE WE WERE.
NOW, WHAT I DID WAS ON THE REVENUE SHEET, I SAID ANYTHING THAT WAS LESS THAN 50%, I'M KIND OF GOING, ASSUMING WE'RE THROUGH JUNE 30TH, SO HALF HALF THE YEAR IS GONE.
SO ANYTHING THAT IS LESS THAN 50% IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
AND WITH THE EXPENSES, ANY, ANYTHING THAT IS MORE THAN 50% USED IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED JUST TO DEMONSTRATE HOW WE'RE MANAGING THE BUDGET AND WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO COULD YOU GIVE US HIGHLIGHTS? UM, I MEAN, REAL, REALLY, IT'S A MATTER OF JUST WATCHING WHAT WE SPEND.
NO, BUT I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU COULD GIVE US MORE, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY TO THE PUBLIC.
YOU KNOW, SO THE THINGS THAT, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST IN GENERAL ARE, UM, EVERYTHING'S GOING UP.
VENDORS ARE INCREASING THEIR COST.
THEY'RE ADDING ON LIKE FREIGHT CHARGES, GAS CHARGES, GAS IS UP, UTILITIES ARE UP, COSTS ARE GOING UP.
AND WE, WE DIDN'T PLAN ON IT GOING UP AS MUCH AS IT'S DID.
SO THAT'S JUST WHY I'M LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY.
SO IN TERMS OF THE COSTS, LIKE THE INFLATION COSTS, THE, THE PURCHASING, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH UNDER BUDGET, OVER BUDGET ARE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU ANTICIPATE WILL BE WITH IF, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BE WIPING OUT THE CONTINGENCY MUCH SOONER THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL COME CLOSE, CLOSE TO BUDGET.
BUT WE, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE'RE SPENDING.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD, UM, OR YOU HAD MENTIONED TO ME WHEN WE TALKED WAS BUILDING PERMIT, UM, FEES, UM, WHAT DID WE BUDGET AND HOW MUCH HAVE WE GOTTEN AS OF TODAY? OKAY, SO WE BUDGETED, BEAR WITH ME.
WE BUDGET LIKE 6.8 MILLION AND 6.8.
WE BUDGETED 6.8 MILLION AND SO FAR TO DATE, WE'VE TAKEN IN 1,000,090 5,000.
BUT THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE REGENERON FEES THAT THEY WERE HOLDING OFF BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE.
RIGHT? THIS IS JUST WHAT WE, WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED, RIGHT? SO FAR.
SO HOW MUCH DO WE EXPECT FROM REGENERON BY THE END OF THE YEAR? BY THE END OF THE YEAR? I MEAN, THAT'S MORE FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO TELL ME, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE BUILDING INSPECTOR IN NEXT WEEK.
I MEAN, TO ME, IF IT'S 6.8, I'M FIGURING THROUGH JUNE, YOU FIGURED WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN ROUGHLY 3 MILLION AND WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.1 MILLION.
IT'S EXPECTED TO BE MORE THAN THAT.
WHAT WOULD YOU THINK IT'S GONNA BE? IT'S NOT FOR ME TO SAY, YEAH, WELL THIS IS RIGHT, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? FOR, FOR YEARS WE WERE ACTUALLY RELYING ON THEIR BUILDING PERMIT FEES, BUT THEY DIDN'T ACT FOR WHATEVER REASON.
UM, IT'S A VERY HIGH QUALITY COMPANY AND THEY, THEY, WHEN THEY DO THINGS, THEY DO THINGS RIGHT.
AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THINGS RIGHT AND THEY'RE FILING BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT PURSUING THEM AT THE MOMENT, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING MORE DECISIONS.
SO, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN WASTE MONEY.
IT JUST MEANS THAT, UH, THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO GROW.
OH, BUT LISTEN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, RIGHT? BUT WE ALSO, LIKE BRIGHTVIEW IS NOT COMING IN THIS YEAR AND WE ANTICIPATED THAT THEY WERE GONNA COME IN AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I HELD OVER THE TB ONE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T FEEL WE HAVE THE ABILITY RIGHT NOW TO FINANCIALLY FROM A MANAGEMENT.
WHAT'S THE STATUS OF BRIGHTVIEW? THE, THEY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
UH, YOU KNOW, AT DID THEY SAY WHAT? AT WHAT? FIRST QUARTER, SECOND QUARTER? WELL, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THEY FALL, THEY, THEY MEET WITH US AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WAITING TO SEE BASICALLY, I MEAN, WITH ALL THIS INFLATION AND, UH, ALL THE COSTS, THEY MAY
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SAY WE'RE GONNA PUT IT OFF.MAYBE IT'LL BE THE YEAR AFTER, YOU KNOW, THINK.
SO THERE'S NO DEFINITIVE DATE IN WORDS? NO.
AND YOU KNOW, I I, I AM, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE I FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TODAY, YOU KNOW, I HEARD FROM AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT, UM, EMPLOYEES ASKING FOR INCREASES.
AND, UM, EVERYBODY THINKS THAT THE TOWN IS, UH, FLUSH WITH MONEY.
AND ONE, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED TO ASK, UM, ROBERTA TO COME HERE IS WE'RE NOT, WE, THERE'S GONNA BE FINANCIAL ISSUES.
AND IF WE JUST SAY YES TO EVERYBODY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MAJOR BUDGET PROBLEMS. WE HAVE TO TIGHTEN IT UP.
AND WE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING IF IT'S IN THE BUDGET, THEY COULD SPEND IT.
BUT IF IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE TIME TO ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, ADD, UH, YOU KNOW, NEW SALARY INCREASES OR NEW, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW, NEW COSTS.
I THINK IT'S HIGHLY RESPONSIBLE.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE.
NO, BUT I, AND WOULD YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? ARE WELL, ARE YOU CONCERNED ALSO? YEAH, I MEAN, I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE OF ALL THE RISING COSTS, RIGHT? AND US MAKING BUDGET.
AND ARE YOU, THAT'S CONCERN ALSO, YOU'RE ALSO CONCERNED, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ANY SPENDING OF MONEY.
WHETHER OR NOT IT'S FOR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM OR ZUCKERBERG PROGRAM, CORRECT.
BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THE ZUCKERBERG.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING THE ZUCKERBERG MONEY, UH, UH, PRO, UH, PROGRAM.
WE'RE GONNA USE THE ZUCKERBERG MONEY TO PAY AN INTERN.
AND I DON'T, IT'S, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE DON'T GET ANY MONEY FROM ZUCKERBERG.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAXPAYER MONEY TO RUN THESE PROGRAMS. WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEND MONEY, THERE'S NO ISSUE.
WHEN SOME OF US ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE A DEPARTMENT, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S AN ISSUE.
I ALWAYS SAY YOUR POSITION IS YOUR POSITION AND IT'S PERFECT FOR YOUR JOB IS ANY SPENDING OF MONEY NEEDS TO STOP REGARDLESS, RIGHT? YES.
BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF SHE CARE IF IT'S FRIVOLOUS
I'M TRYING TO PRESERVE THE FUN NOW.
IF YOU BASICALLY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL.
AND AGAIN, TODAY I GOT AT LEAST THREE REQUESTS AND YOU KNOW, I, I SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT IT AND I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED.
THE, THE MORALE, WHEN YOU GIVE ONE PERSON A SALARY INCREASE, IT CREATES MOMENTUM.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU FEEL I'M SAYING IT PUBLICLY BECAUSE I WANT THE PUBLIC TO REALIZE YOU'VE ALREADY ALREADY SAID, YOU'VE ALREADY SAID IT.
I'LL SAY NOW WE HAVE LEAFBLOWER LAW.
UM, ROBERTA, SHOULD WE GET NEW CHAIRS? NO, EXACTLY.
AND WE COULD SCOTCH TAPE THAT, UH, PODIUM, WHICH IS YEAH.
WE'LL PUT A LITTLE SCOTCH TAPE THERE.
INSTEAD OF GETTING IN NOWHERE THEY BLOWER LAW.
WHERE ARE WE NOW? WHERE ARE WE NOW? WHO MIGHT DO THE TRICK? UM, OKAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY SAID THAT WE WERE GONNA DO, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE AGREED IN CONCEPT TWO DAYS.
NO TUESDAYS, NO THURSDAYS, YES.
DID YOU LOOK AT, DID YOU LOOK AT WHAT DAY CIRCULATING? I I SENT OUT AN EMAIL, UH, THIS MORNING.
I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO PUTTING, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEB, BUT I THINK THIS WAS THE LANGUAGE WE, WE DISCUSSED.
I'LL READ IT AGAIN JUST FOR EVERYONE'S BEGINNING ON JULY 1ST, 2022.
AND, AND THAT DATE MAY CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHEN IT'S PASSED NOW, AND INCLUDING OCTOBER 15TH, 22, 22.
THE OPERATION OF YARD AND GARDEN BLOWERS ARE COMMITTED ONLY ON MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS, AND FRIDAYS DURING THE HOUR IS 9:00 AM AND 5:00 PM AND WEEKENDS DURING THE HOURS OF 11:00 AM AND 4:00 PM WHEN USED BY OR ON BEHALF OF RESIDENTS OR INDIVIDUALS RENTING THE PROPERTY OF WHICH THE BLOWER IS USED, THERE SHALL BE NO OPERATION OF YARD AND GARDEN BLOWS PERMITTED ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS OR ON ANY FEDERAL OR STATE HOLIDAYS.
AND THEN THERE'S THE NEXT CAUSE TOWN PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
EMPLOYEES ARE AUTHORIZED TO OPERATE YARD AND LEAF BLOWERS DURING THE HOURS BETWEEN 8:00 AM AM AND 4:00 PM ON DAYS THAT THE USE OF BLOWERS ARE PERMITTED.
BUT THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD THE INITIAL HEARING ON, WHICH WAS THAT YOU CAN'T USE IT ON MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS, AND FRIDAYS.
AND ALSO FROM WHAT, UH, TIM LEWIS HAD ADVISED ME WHEN WE LAST HAD THE MEETING, WE DIDN'T SET UP A NEW PUBLIC HEARING DATE.
SO WE HAVE TO RE-NOTICE IT AND, UM, UH, AND PUT THIS, I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT RIGHT AFTER THE LAST MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS, WELL, THE QUESTION IS, IF WE HAVE TO RE-NOTICE
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IT, THEN BY TIME WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE, IT'S ALMOST THE END OF THE SEASON.IT'S LIKE, WELL, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
SO COULD THEN WHAT, WHEN WOULD WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE, FOR THE WEEK OR TWO FROM JULY 1ST? YEAH.
WE JUST HAVE TO MOVE IT, MOVE THE, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN COULD WE SET THE PUBLIC? WELL, ONCE, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO KNOW THE JULY AND AUGUST MEETING DATES, WHICH I THINK WE'RE GONNA RESOLVE TODAY.
SO I THINK THE ANSWER IS ONCE THERE'S A DETERMINATION OF THAT, WE WILL, UM, DO IT THE FIRST MEETING WE NOTICE IT, WE'LL ADD, DO IT THE MEETING IN JULY.
AND COULD WE ADOPT SOMETHING AT THE MEETING IN JULY INSTEAD OF PUBLIC HEARING? NO.
COULD WE DO IT AT THE SAME TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD WELL, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WHEN YOU PUT THAT OUT IN ADVANCE, YOU DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.
YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND CLOSE THE RECORD AND THEN VOTE THEREAFTER.
YOU COULD DO IT AT A WORK SESSION.
I MEAN, A DAY WHEN YOU NORMALLY HAVE A WORK SESSION.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I'M NOT, I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF I AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT THERE'S A MATERIAL CHANGES BECAUSE BASICALLY, UM, THE MATERIAL CHANGE WAS, WE HAD ORIGINALLY THREE DAYS, NO LEAF FLOWING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE, EVEN IF THERE WASN'T THE DIFFERENT DAYS THERE, THERE WAS EVEN IF IT, EVEN IF THERE WASN'T, THE FACT WAS THAT THE LAST MEETING DID NOT GET, UH, SET UP AND SCHEDULE A MEETING.
SO WHEN I TALKED TO TIM ABOUT THIS, UH, LAST WEEK, HE SAID THERE WAS A, THERE, THERE WAS A NEED TO PUBLIC FOR A PUBLIC NOTICE AGAIN, AND I, YOU KNOW, I, AND I SPECIFICALLY ASKED HIM BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION TO YOU IF, UH, IF WE FLIPPED THE DAYS, BUT, UM, AND I'M NOT SAYING WHETHER MY OPINION, WHETHER IT'S INSIGNIFICANT OR NOT, TIM SAID IT NEEDED TO BE, THERE NEEDED TO BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
I, I, I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE DONE AFTER OUR MEETING BECAUSE WE WOULD'VE HAD TIME TO NOTICE IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE THE FIRE CONTRACT WHERE YOU NEED MORE THAN THE TWO WEEKS.
WE'LL DO ON THAT TOMORROW, BUT NOW LET'S MOVE ON IT.
SO WOULD LET ME, SO WOULD WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, JUST TO MOVE THIS QUICKER, WOULD'VE WE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, SAY SCHEDULE, UM, UH, A PUBLIC CARE, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE, SAY A PUBLIC HEARING AT A WORK SESSION, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF A WORK SESSION? AT THE END OF A WORK SESSION, DO IT ON A TUESDAY.
NOT WAIT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AS LONG.
AND THEN THIS WAY AT LEAST WE COULD TEST IT OUT FOR THE SEASON BECAUSE MY FEELING IS IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING, IF YOU STARTED IN AUGUST, YOU'RE NOT, IT, IT MAKES IT REALLY HARD TO EDUCATE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE'RE BASICALLY GONNA BE THE SAME PLACE WE WERE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE.
SO LET'S SAY WE NEXT, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEDNESDAY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY SCHEDULE, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY WAY OF SPEEDING THIS UP, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, REALLY GREAT.
AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TEST, TEST THE CONCEPT.
IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT A PERFECT LAW, BUT IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A FIRST, FIRST DRAFT OF A WHAT COULD EVENTUALLY BE A GOOD LOOK.
SO LEGALLY, WHAT'S THE STEPS? I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S THE STEPS? WELL, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH NOTICE FOR, UH, FOR A MEETING.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, THEN PUT IT ON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVEN'T PICKED THE DATE IN JULY YET.
IF IT'S THE FIRST, UH, SECOND WEDNESDAY AND JULY, THEN IT'S NOT THAT FAR AWAY.
BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT DATE IS AND WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT TODAY.
SO NOW WE HAVE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ON TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
ALRIGHT, WELL, THERE, THERE'S NO MATTERS.
MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.
INCLUDING, UH, YOU JUST HAVE TO ENUNCIATE IT, INCLUDING CONTRACTS.
SO, PAUL MADE IT SECOND IN I SECOND DO IT NOW.