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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]

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THIRD TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION IS JUNE 21ST.

AND, UM, IT'S AFTER SIX 15 AND WE HAVE A WORK SESSION ON SITE VISIT AT SPRINGWOOD AVENUE AT FIVE 15.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE STARTING LATER THAN USUAL.

UM, WE ARE STARTING TO DISCUSS, UM, MAKING THE DECISION AS TO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH AVENUE, ROBIN HILL ROAD AND HENRY STREET.

AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO SERGEANT TON, UM, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY, LIKE , SORRY, , UH, UH, UH, OKAY.

, UM, YOU'RE A STICKLER, RIGHT? THE DETAIL, UM, WE ASKED ME, I TOLD HIM, YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S GONNA THROW YOU ON THE BOTTOM.

IT WAS MY FAULT.

OKAY, SO SERGEANT REON SAYS HE WANTS TO ANALYZE THE DATA, UM, AND MAKE A DECISION, BUT WE ALSO MADE A COMMITMENT THAT RIGHT, IT WAS ONLY TOLD, UH, JUNE.

SO WHAT IF, IF SERGEANT REON DOESN'T HAVE, I SENT, UH, LETTERS TO EVERYBODY ON THE TO EVERYBODY ON THE STREET, ON BOTH, YOU KNOW, ON BOTH STREETS, ROBIN HILL AND, UM, NOW JOY AND I ALSO SENT IT TO HENRY STREET BLOCK AWAY.

UM, SO I GOT TWO RESPONSES.

I SENT IT LESLIE.

UM, BUT, BUT THERE, BUT, BUT TONIGHT WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY HEAR THAT THEY NEED, WE NEED AN EXTENSION FROM, UH, SERGEANT , BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I'M HEARING, BECAUSE THIS IS BECAUSE WE MADE A PROMISE, SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M SORRY.

YEAH, IT EXPIRES.

IT EXPIRES, UM, JUNE 30TH.

JUNE, JUNE 30TH.

SO IF IT EXPIRED JUNE 30TH, WHERE WE GOING? BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE AWARE BECAUSE WE HAVE MAKE THAT NO, THEY, WE, THEY'RE AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, IF ION NEEDS MORE TIME, ONE OPTION WOULD BE TO, UM, AT NEXT TUESDAY OF WORK SESSION, WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA EXTEND IT FOR 30 DAYS OR UNTIL LABOR DAY.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE I'M GETTING VIRTUALLY NO VERY FEW NEGATIVE.

MOST PEOPLE LIKE IT, BUT HIM TIME, YOU'RE NOT MAKING IT PERMANENT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE EVERYTHING DOWN BECAUSE THAT WOULD CREATE MORE CONFUSION AND THEN GIVE DIRECTION AT WHAT TIME THEY NEED, HOW MUCH, LET'S FIND OUT HOW MUCH TIME HE NEEDS TO MAKE, MAKE HIS RECOMMENDATIONS.

BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TO, IF WE CAN EXTEND IT ONLY A WEEK, THAT'S MORE LOGICAL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'LL GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

IF IT'S JUST A LUKE'S TIME.

I MEAN, IF, IF HE CAN MAKE THE, IF WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TUESDAY, WE COULD HAVE SPECIAL MEETING OR, OR WE COULD BASICALLY, WE COULD, UH, I THINK HE, MY RECOLLECTION IS HE SAID THAT YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT BE READY JULY 13TH MEETING.

SO IF WE, UH, WE COULD ALWAYS EXTEND IT TO JULY 13TH, TWO WEEKS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT HE PUT IN.

SO WE NEED TO, SO IS HE NOT AVAILABLE? SO COULD HE REALLY TO SPEAK TO THAT, MY RECOLLECTION SENT ME AN EMAIL SAYING THAT HE WOULD BE READY FIND THE ONE ONSET.

WE WILL BE COMPLETED.

UH, THE DATA SAMPLING I WILL REVIEW TO GO THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK AND REPORT THE ASSIGNMENTS BASED ON BOARD.

SO ONE HOUR THIS, THIS WEEK.

WHAT'S THAT? SIX 18.

SATURDAY.

SATURDAY, OKAY.

JUST FOR THE RECORD FOR THOSE.

YEAH.

NO LONGER WITH THE TOWN ONE.

EVERYONE KNOWS WHO YOU ARE.

YEAH.

UH, JOSEPH , UH, DEPUTY COUNTERPLAN.

YEAH, JUST ONE.

SO, UH, PAUL, DID YOU, DO YOU HAVE THIS NUMBER? NO.

SO, UH, WE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY, WE SHOULD JUST GET STARTED BECAUSE WE DID SAY THAT.

DO YOU WANNA CALL THE JUROR? I'M .

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HI.

THE TOWN BOARD, BOARD SESSION.

I'M BY THE WAY, , , CAN HELP, NOT .

UH, SO OUR RESOLUTION EXPIRES FOR THE ONE WAY ON , ET CETERA.

AND, UH, NEXT WEEK.

YEP.

UM, I THOUGHT FROM YOUR EMAIL THAT YOU'LL BE WILLING ABLE TO GIVE US SOME KIND OF AN ANALYSIS OF WHATEVER DATA YOU HAD.

SO I JUST, TODAY I HAD THE, UM, THE TEMPORARY, THE INTERN TEMPS.

THE, UH, WE JUST COMPLETED A SPEED STUDY AND DATA ANALYSIS THAT GIVES US, WE DID IT BEFORE.

WE INFLUENCED THE ONE WAY, RIGHT.

UM, ON THREE MAIN ROADS ON ROBIN HILL, ON MOUNT JOY ON HENRY STREET.

THEN ONCE THE ONE WAY WAS IMPLEMENTED FOR A MONTH, WE CONDUCTED THE SAME STUDY AT THE SAME EXACT LOCATION AND WE COMPILED THOSE STATISTICS.

UH, I CAN SHARE, I CAN SEND YOU WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THE EMAIL.

GREAT.

WELL, THE QUESTION IS, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING 'CAUSE OTHERWISE SUNSET.

SUNSET, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

THAT WEEK.

SO WE EITHER HAVE, AND WE PROMISED THE PEOPLE STANDING OUT ON THAT STREET, UM, FOR HOURS THAT WE WOULD GET THEIR INPUT BEFORE WE DID ANYTHING LONG TERM.

OKAY.

AND SO RIGHT NOW IT'S ON THE AGENDA BASED ON KNOW TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, THE PUBLIC TOMORROW NIGHT AT AS TO WHAT THEY SAY AND DATA.

ARE YOU SAYING THEY ALL HAVE THE DATA AVAILABLE? NO, IT'LL BE, IT'S, IT'S 95% COMPLETE.

THEY ONLY HAVE TO INPUT TWO, UM, PIECES OF DATA TOMORROW FOR BASICALLY JUST THE GRAPHS.

I HAVE ALL THE DATA, THEY WERE JUST PUTTING IT TOGETHER IN A GRAPH.

SO WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION GENERALLY BE AS OF NOW? WELL, FROM WHAT I'M SEEING IS SPEED VOLUME ON MOUNT JOY HAS DECREASED AND SPEED HAS DECREASED ON MOUNT JOY.

UM, VOLUME ON HENRY STREET HAS INCREASED.

THE SPEED HAD STAYED THE SAME.

UH, BUT WE KNEW VOLUME WOULD INCREASE ON HENRY STREET, BUT HENRY STREET, IT'S A WIDER ROAD AND IT CURRENTLY HAS SIDEWALKS ON IT, SO THERE'S NO CONFLICT BETWEEN PEDESTRIANS WALKING AND PEOPLE DRIVING.

UM, AND ROBIN HILL, THE VOLUME WENT, I THINK THE VOLUME WENT UP ONLY A LITTLE, MAYBE A FEW CARS A DAY, AND THE SPEED WENT UP LIKE TWO MILES PER HOUR.

SO ROBIN HILL ROAD AND THE SPEED WAS LIKE 15.9 MILES AN HOUR, WHERE IT'S NOW 17 MILES AN HOUR, THE AVERAGE SPEED AND LIKE 117 CARS A DAY, IT'S NOW 122 CARS A DAY.

BUT FOUND JOY, THE VOLUME WENT DOWN DRASTICALLY, UH, BUT MAYBE 250 CARS A DAY ON MOUNT JOY.

AND ALSO THE SPEED WENT DOWN, WHICH IS SURPRISING.

OKAY.

SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS TOMORROW? YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE THAT WE EXTEND IT PERMANENT? I THINK SO.

SO SHOULD WE BE DOING IT TOMORROW OR SHOULD WE DO IT AT A SPECIAL MEETING? UM, THE FOLLOWING, UH, WELL, IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT AT A SPECIAL MEETING WHERE WE GET, I KNOW AN EMAIL WENT OUT OR A QUESTIONNAIRE WENT OUT AND PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO RESPOND TO IT.

RIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TWO MONTHS TO REALLY GET IT, UM, FINALIZED AS YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY AN ISSUE WHEN SCHOOL BEGINS, YOU KNOW, A CHANGING PATTERN IS, IS MORE LIKELY UNLESS THERE'S A REASON FOR CHANGE, CHANGING PATTERNS IS MORE OUS THAN NOT.

RIGHT.

WE DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT BACK TO TWO WAY AND THEN CHANGE IT BACK IN ONE WAY.

CORRECT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

WE WOULD NOT CHANGE ANYTHING BACK.

SO IF IT'S, IF IT'S, UH, IF WE ELECT TO KEEP IT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE SOME MORE IMPROVEMENTS TO IT.

RIGHT.

SO MAKE A SUGGESTION.

WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO, UM, PUT THIS ON FOR A SPECIAL, UH, MEETING NEXT TUESDAY? I SENT OUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A QUESTIONNAIRE, LIKE I, IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL.

WE'RE GIVING EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO, TO RESPOND.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE GOT I THINK TWO RESPONSES.

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ONE WAS FOR THE FOUR, ONE HAS SOME CONCERNS, WHICH YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, WHICH YOU COULD ANALYZE.

AND THEN NEXT WEEK, WE'LL, WE CAN HOLD ON.

I THINK THAT'S FINE.

YEAH.

UH, SEND, SENDING, UH, ALL THE RESPONSES TO EVERYBODY INSTEAD THE SURVEY ITSELF.

YEAH, THE SURVEY WAS JUST SAYING, TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.

IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, WASN'T, UH, SCIENTIFIC SURVEY.

ONE OF THE SURVEYS OR ONE OF THE EMAILS CAME BACK TODAY.

THE PERSON HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NO STOPPING OR YOU'RE STANDING ANYTIME ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.

WELL, THAT I, I DID SEE THAT RETURN LINE.

THAT'S MANY PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE ON A ONE WAY STREET ONLY PARKING.

NO, YOU COULD PARK ON BOTH SIDES.

YOU COULD PARK LEFT SIDE TO THE CURB UNLESS SPECIAL ORDER BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU COULD PARK ON THE LEFT SIDE ON A ONE WAY ROAD.

BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR PER PORTION WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT THE SIDEWALK.

SO WE WERE KIND OF SIMULATING THAT THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.

HOW DO THEY PARK BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD ON ONE WAY STREET? UNLESS THEY TURNED AROUND AND I MAKE IT LOOK LIKE TWO WAY STREET BY PARKING LOT.

I I DON'T, SO I'M NOT SURE I FOLLOW UP.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE LEFT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR, YOUR PASSENGER SIDE TO THE CURB ON A TWO-WAY STREET.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR RIGHT TWO WHEELS, RIGHT.

PASSENGER SIDE WITHIN 12 INCHES OF THE CURB.

I GOT TO LOOK UP THE LAW.

I WANNA SAY, UNLESS IT'S A ONE-WAY STREET.

OKAY.

THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU MENTIONED BEFORE.

PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT.

WELL, YES, AND THAT WAS ON A TWO-WAY STREET.

CORRECT.

PEOPLE, YOU CAN'T PARK LEFT SIDE TO THE CURB.

UM, BUT IN RESEARCH, RIGHT, YOU CAN, UNLESS THE TOWN HAS SPECIAL LAWS PROHIBITED.

SO WHATEVER IT IS, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOW IS EXACTLY WHAT IT'S COURT.

RIGHT.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT WE PROMISED THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE OUT ON THE STREET TALKING TO US ABOUT THIS, UM, THAT WE WOULD GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO PROVIDE US INPUT.

YEP.

UH, IT WOULD SEEM LIKE TOMORROW NIGHT AS THE BOARD MEETING WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO GET THAT INPUT.

AND THEN IF WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE OR NOT, WE HAVE TO DO, SO THIS EITHER CONTINUOUS BECAUSE WE DON'T DO ANYTHING.

SO THREE, SO, UH, WE COULD HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT TUESDAY IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

OR THE OTHER OPTION IS, UH, WE COULD, UM, UM, DO LIKE A EXTENSION FOR UNTIL, YOU KNOW, LABOR DAY AND, UH, AND I'M SAYING THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION.

GIVING, UH, , YOU KNOW, MORE TIME TO, UH, ANALYZE AND PERFECT IT.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE SUMMER, WE COULD ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING I DON'T, I I THINK I SPENT A LOT OF TIME BYLINE UP AND DOWN THE STREET.

SO I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND ACTUALLY EVERYBODY LIKES IT THAT I, THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN THESE WALK IN AND PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOOR JOGGING OR, YOU KNOW, OR DOING THEIR LABOR.

BETTER END, END OF, WE DO IT FOR TWO MONTHS, WE GIVE IT TO THE END OF JUNE.

WE ALREADY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'VE HAD NO COMPLAINTS.

I'VE HAD NO ISSUES.

NO EMAIL COMPLAINTS.

NO PHONE COMPLAINTS.

NO.

YEAH.

BUT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THE COMPLAINERS DON'T COME OUT UNTIL YOU DO SOMETHING THAT'S CONTRARY TO MM-HMM.

WHAT YOU COMMITTED TO.

SO WE MADE A COMMITMENT AND I THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO IT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE, SOME SETTING, IT WAS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION IN THEM QUIETING DOWN TO BEGIN WITH.

SO, YOU KNOW WHAT, REALLY FOLLOWING YOUR SUGGESTION, WE SAID WE ARE DOING A TWO MONTH, UH, TRIAL.

NEXT WEEK IS, YOU KNOW, JUNE 29 OR 28TH IS NOT TWO IS NOT TWO MONTHS.

SO MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS NEXT TUESDAY JUST EXTEND TO JULY 13TH, THEN, UH, THEN SERGEANT REXTON AFTER JULY 13TH, FIVE AND JULY 13TH MEETING COULD GIVE US THE DATA AND THEN WE COULD DECIDE AT THAT TIME WHETHER TO MAKE IT PERMANENT.

NOT, AND THEN NOBODY WILL SAY THE WHOLE PROCESS IS ALL VERY JULY, OR WE CAN DO IT ANYWAY.

UM, I THINK YEAH, JULY 13TH, IF YOU, WE CAN MEET ON IT NEXT WEEK ON 28TH, JUST TO EXTEND JULY 13TH, MAKE YOUR DECISION.

RIGHT.

BUT WE'LL MAKE, WE'LL JUST EXTEND IT, UH, NEXT WEEK, NEXT, JUST UNTIL THE JULY 13TH MEETING.

YEAH.

AND, AND IF IT'S EXPLAINED CLEARLY THAT IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'VE COMPILED DATA, WE HAVE TO REALLY ANALYZE IT PROPERLY TO PRESENT IT.

AND THEN YOU COULD ALSO SAY WE'RE GIVING THE PUBLIC MORE A TIME TO MAKE COMMENTS.

RIGHT.

THE OTHER THING IS,

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UH, SO I DIRECTLY COULD THEN TELL THE COMMUNITY WHAT OTHER, UM, INITIATIVE WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING TO, UM, MAKE THE ROAD SAFER.

FOR EXAMPLE, PART OF ROBIN HILL IS GONNA GET THE SMALL SECTIONS WHEN WE GET A SIDEWALK.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, LANES LIKE A TAINTED LANE ON, UM, ON THE, ON MOUNT JOY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, YOU KNOW, UH, ROBIN HILL.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SAY, OH, I LIKE THIS, I DON'T LIKE IT.

YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU'RE JUST TELLING EVERYBODY UP FRONT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE SAW, AND ANTHONY, SO BOBBY'S EMAIL ABOUT THE SIGNAGE TO THAT SAID NO STOPPING ANY TIME.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT WAS JUST A TEMPORARY THING AND I DON'T KNOW.

BUT THAT COULD BE CHANGED TO, YOU KNOW, NO STOPPING ANY OR NO STOPPING DURING SCHOOL HOURS AND NO STOPPING.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S THAT'SS BASICALLY WHAT HE SAID, LIKE SEVEN TO NINE AND TWO TO FOUR ON SCHOOL DAYS.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.

OH, I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

UM, UH, SOME PEOPLE INITIALLY WERE COMPLAINING THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE DRIVING THE WRONG WAY.

UM, AND YOU, IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, I STILL GET A HANDFUL OF COMPLAINTS.

NOT A LOT.

UM, HAS THAT BEEN A PROBLEM IN YOUR OPINION, WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE STREET BY JUST SAYING, UH, NOT, NOT THAT I'VE HEARD.

I'M SURE YOU, WE WENT, WE SPOKE TO THE POSTMASTER AND YOU KNOW, YOU SPEAK TO THE DELIVERY DRIVERS AND THEN, UM, WE'VE UPDATED, UH, THE GOOGLE MAPPINGS AND SOME OF THE G P S, YOU KNOW, MAPPING SYSTEMS TO REFLECT THE ONE WAY ROUTE.

UM, AND THE MORE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT, THEN IT STOPS ROUTING PEOPLE THAT WAY.

WE'RE GONNA, WELL, GOING BACK TO ONE POINT OF CLASSIFICATION FOR THE RECORD, UH, PARKING ON THE ONE WAY STREET, ACCORDING TO THE TOWN CODE, WE SHOULD BE ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE STREET.

UM, IT'S IN THE CODE JUST STORMED OUT.

AND THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION.

YEAH.

I I CONFIRMED IT.

I I DIDN'T WANT TO GO , HAVE, BUT, UH, OUR TOWN CODE SAYS PARKING MUST BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR UNLESS IT DICTATES OTHERWISE.

CORRECT.

AS DETERMINED BY THE DIRECTION, THE STREET YOU'RE PERMITTED TO PARK ON THE LEFT SIDE, BUT NOT THE RIGHT SIDE.

IT SAYS AS DETERMINED BY DIRECTION, THIS TRAFFIC IS PERMIT FAIR APPROACH.

OKAY, SO THAT'S, I I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS PART OF OUR DISCRETION ON THE STREET IS BY HAVING THAT YOU, YOU AVOID THE, THE ROADWAY AND GETTING NARROW BY HAVING , YOU HAVE TO, RIGHT.

WE HAVE TO JUST DO A RESOLUTION TO RESTRICT ON THE ONE WAY STREET RESTRICT PARKING TO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

OKAY.

SO I THINK YOU'RE FOLLOWING UP.

SO JUST SO OF CLEAR, JUST JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING, UM, ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE LISTED AS A PRESENTATION.

SO HE IS NOT GIVEN A PRESENTATION TOMORROW.

WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY NECESSARY BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA START, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS TO, UH, LET'S JUST PLAY THIS OUT NEXT WEEK.

WE SEND IT FOR TWO WEEKS.

RIGHT? AND THEN HOW MIGHT THE 13TH IS OUR NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING? WE HAVE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THAT MEETING AS MAY MEETING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR.

NO, IT'S, NO, IT'S NOT AT ALL.

WE'RE BASICALLY, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, WE, I THINK RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE COMMENTING, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COMMENT AT A MEETING THAT JUST EMAIL, PHONE US.

WHY? WELL, WE DON'T, WELL, WE ALWAYS LISTEN PUBLIC COMMENT .

WELL, IF THEY WANT TO COMMENT, THEY COULD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I, WE WERE, I WAS VERY CLEAR.

I I WAS AS CLEAR AS THE DISH.

I THINK EVERYBODY WAS, BUT I'M JUST GONNA SPEAK TO MYSELF, IS THAT WE WOULD HEAR FROM THEM.

I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT, UH, WE WOULD HEAR FROM THAT.

SO WE'RE DECIDING TO DO SOMETHING EVEN LEANING ONE WAY.

I THINK JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT, PUT ABSOLUTELY.

I'D RATHER ACTUALLY, WHATEVER WE KNOW NOW, AT LEAST PUT IT OUT THERE SO THAT IN TWO WEEKS I REALLY DON'T LIKE US TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND HAVE A RESOLUTION SITTING ON THERE APPROVING OR DISAPPROVING SOMETHING WITHOUT, BUT THEN CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION ANOTHER, WHY DON'T WE THEN SAY NEXT WEEK? WE'LL, WE COULD EXTEND IT TILL TILL THE END OF AUGUST WHEN WE GROW IN BOTH BEFORE THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO BACK IN MAY, IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT IT IN FOR TWO MONTHS AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA EXTEND IT AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE BACK TO THE SCHOOL

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YEAR.

RIGHT.

AND YOU'RE GONNA SAY, NOW THAT THE SCHOOL KIDS ARE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO AGAIN, AND THIS IS ALL AND, AND NOT A SCAM BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND, BUT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT, BUT THAT WHAT THE PERCEPTION IS, PAUL, THAT THAT'S HOW IT WAS GOING TO BE.

NO, BUT LEMME JUST SAY NO, THE ME I'M COMFORTABLE VOTING ON IT JULY 13TH.

BUT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE.

OKAY, SO I JUST, LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST STEP BACK FOR SECONDS.

SO THE OPPORTUNITY, SO IT'S ON HERE, PRESENTATION.

LET, LET'S KEEP IT ON HERE.

IF THE SERGEANT HAS THE DATA, HE'S READY TO PRESENT, HE SHOULD PRESENT AND THEN PUBLIC WILL COME OUT AND COMMENT, ALLOW THEM TO COME OUT AND COMMENT.

IT'S ON HERE.

LET THEM SPEAK SO WE CAN GATHER ALL THINGS.

INITIAL DISCUSSION NEXT TUESDAY WHEN AND ON THE 13TH.

YES.

AND THEN I JUST COMMENT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S, DO YOU WANT ME TO POST SOMETHING ON THE, YOU JUST SAYING PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE, HAVE EXPERIENCES, UH, FEELING, I THINK WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO NORMALLY IN ANY SITUATION, WHEN ANYONE'S GONNA COME UP AND HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, I THINK YOU COULD FILE THE SAME, DO IT.

THAT WAS MY POINT.

FOLLOW YOUR GIFT.

OKAY.

TO, UH, ADVISE, SEND A COMMENT.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'LL DO IS I, THERE'S AN EMAIL CHAIN ABOUT 30 PEOPLE YOU'VE BEEN EMAILING EACH OTHER.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY ARE ARRESTED.

EVERYONE SEND THEM.

DON'T, SO CAN YOU, WE CAN HAVE A COPY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANKS REST.

WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT.

OKAY.

GOODNIGHT.

GOODNIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY, NEXT PRESENTATION.

SO SHE'S NOT HERE, SO ARE WE MOVING FORWARD? YES.

SO, OKAY.

NOTHING.

CAN'T MAKE IT TOMORROW.

HE ONE SNOW AND GO.

SO THAT DOESN'T TAKE COMING OFF.

YEAH.

OKAY.

, ARE YOU JUST GONNA RECOGNIZE HIM AT ALL? YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYBE I'LL JUST RECOGNIZE HIM.

OKAY.

WE'RE STARTING THE MEETING AND THEN GOING OUT, RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH.

SHE NEVER, UM, YOU GOT BACK TO ME.

CAROLYN, DO YOU KNOW, UH, CAROLYN? DO YOU KNOW CAROLYN, HEATHER? I DON'T KNOW.

SO IS SHE ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE? THE ONE THAT'S YEAH.

WHAT? LYNN.

LYNN.

MAYBE WE REACH OUT TO LYNN AND MAYBE LINK HIM AND SEE IF HE'S HEARD OF HER.

I MEAN, HEARD IF SHE'S AROUND OR NOT.

DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS, YEAH, SO, SO THIS, THE JENNIFER NINE, THIS UPDATE.

THESE ARE, UH, UM, I'M JUST GIVING THEM CERTIFICATES.

YOU, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF PAPER ON THE FORMULA.

UM, SO THE CERTIFICATES ARE COMING FROM YOU.

YEAH.

LEMME JUST, UH, GET MY PURPOSE.

OH, THIS IS NOT OH, OH, OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IS OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

KELLY, TAKE HERE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, OH, SO THIS IS,

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OKAY, SO NEXT, SO SERGEANT S GONNA STAY, AND THEN TAMRON WAS TRYING GIVE A PRESENTATION.

DO YOU KNOW THE, UM, CAMERON CAMERA PRESENTATION? I'M STILL AT THE PRESENTATION.

OH, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING I KNOW ABOUT THE COMPANY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS JUST A PROMOTIONAL THING.

YOU PROUDLY LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS.

SHAPE YOUR HEAD VERY DIRECT.

I KNOW THAT'S BECAUSE KNOW HE'S ALWAYS AN APPLE.

I, I MEAN, I GO TO APPLE TO GET MY PHONE, WHO'S THERE, BUT FOREVER HAVE IT ALL UPDATED AND ALL THAT.

NO, I'LL GET INTO THE CAR AND STARTING NEW.

WAIT FOR A FEW MINUTES.

GO.

GARRETT SAYS IT.

CALL.

CALL.

OKAY.

I WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE NOT GOING NO, SOMETIMES EVERYONE, WE TRY TO EAT A COMMENT.

I JUST SAID THAT GARRETT, UM, WAS CALLING FRANCIS PERHAPS FOR THE AGENDA.

OH, OKAY.

WE READY AGAIN? OR YOU CAN CALL, CALL THAT .

THAT'S IT.

UH, OH.

RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

HE, UH, HE SAID, HE SAID HE COULD, HE COULD CALL IN TO YOU AND I SAID AS WELL.

WE SHOULD BE STARTING AGAIN.

DID ANYONE NOTICE MY NECKLACE IMPORTANT THAT SO RICH RYAN? YES.

P W ONE, WE HAVE A WARNING OF BID.

THE BASE BID IS $845,000.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THE BASE BID WE'RE AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL WORK OF $800,000.

IF WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO AWARD THE ADDITIONAL WORK, WHY DIDN'T WE JUST PUT THAT INTO THE BASE BID AND HAVE EVERYBODY BILL BID ON OUR 1.6? AND QUITE FRANKLY, I HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT YET.

SEE, DID EVERYBODY BID ON THIS SAME THING SAYING THAT IT COULD BE ANOTHER $800,000 ADDED TO, I JUST WANT, I JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR, I DON'T WANT THE BIDS TO READ ONCE WE DO GET TO READ THEM THAT IT'S FOR AN $800,000 PROJECT.

AND THEN AFTER WE AWARD IT,

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WE THEN SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, I'M SORRY, AN 845,000 PROJECT.

AND THEN AFTER WE AWARD IT, WE THEN SAY, OH, AND WE'RE GOING TO THROW IN ANOTHER $800,000 WORTH.

WHO, WHO IS THIS PW PW ONE, THE LAST ITEM? THIS IS THE, THE CURBING BID.

SO WE DON'T PUT A NUMBER ON IT WHEN WE PUT IT OUT TO BID, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY PUT, UH, REQUEST FOR WORK.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY BID PER LINEAR FOOT OR PER, YOU KNOW, SQUARE FOOT, I THINK ON THE SIDEWALKS, BRIAN.

SO THEY, THEY BID UNIT PRICES.

SO WE WOULD TAKE THE UNIT PRICE AND APPLY THAT TO ANY ADDITIONAL WORK WE'RE LOOKING TO GET DONE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO WE DON'T PUT OUT AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE NEEDED? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU KEEP A REALLY SMALL COMPANY FROM DO NO, WE DON'T PUT, THERE'S NO ESTI.

I, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN BRIAN, ANDY DOESN'T PUT AN ESTIMATE ON THERE.

YEAH, WELL, SO WE WILL.

SO, SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAVE ONCE THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET, RIGHT, WE'LL TAKE THOSE NUMBERS AND WE'LL INTERNALLY COME UP WITH AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY LINEAR FEET WE MAY BE ABLE TO, TO, UM, UH, TO COMPLETE WITHIN THOSE, THOSE BUDGETARY NUMBERS.

THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR, I THINK IT WAS CHALLENGING TO, UH, COME UP WITH AN ACCURATE ESTIMATE BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH THE ECONOMY AND WITH SHORTAGES WITH MATERIALS AND LABOR.

SO WE PUT TOGETHER, UH, AS BEST OF AN ESTIMATE AS WE COULD.

YOU DON'T WANNA GO OVER THAT ESTIMATE BECAUSE IF YOU GO OVER, UM, THEN IN THAT CASE, THEN YOU GOTTA GO BACK OUT TO REBIDS.

WE TRY AND BE AS CONSERVATIVE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN IN THIS SITUATION, THE NUMBERS CAME IN A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN WHAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING.

THEY WERE ALL IN THE, UM, IN THE SAME AREA.

UH, THE NUMBER OR THE LOWEST BIDDER, I SHOULD SAY, WAS AT 845,000.

UH, THE NEXT NEAREST BIDDER, THE SECOND LOWEST WAS AT 996,000.

THE ONE AFTER THAT WAS AT $1,090,000.

AND THE ONE AFTER THAT WAS AT $1,180,000.

SO ALL FOUR BIDDERS WERE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ALL COMPARABLE.

THEY WERE ALL WITHIN THE SAME, UH, RANGE.

UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED OF A $2 MILLION BUDGET FOR CURBING THIS YEAR.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, GET AS MUCH CURBING DONE AS WE CAN WITHIN THAT, THAT BUDGETARY AMOUNT BY JUST, UH, TAKING THE PRICES, THE UNIT PRICES THAT THAT WE'RE BID ON, AND THEN JUST, UM, EXTENDING THAT OUT, UM, TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF WORK.

I DON'T KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE LOST HIM, .

OH.

BUT WE DON'T PUT THAT NUMBER IN THERE FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC.

IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW.

NEXT WEEK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DISCUSS THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONTACT TANK AND THE, UM, THE CHEMICAL FEED BUILDING FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

UM, I'M JUST GONNA TRY TO GET IT SO EVERYBODY ELSE CAN SEE YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW WE SEE YOUR HANDSOME FAITH.

THE PUBLIC COULD SEE IT WHEN I PLAY, BUT NOW WE CAN SEE IT.

SO CAN YOU HEAR US, RICK? I CAN, YEAH.

UH, YOU'RE FAINT, BUT FAINT.

CAN YOU SEE US SAW? I COULD SEE FRANCIS.

I DID NOT.

NO, NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE OLDER NOW.

YEAH.

PULLING, PULLING EVERYBODY TOGETHER, REALIZE PEOPLE, YOU IMPRESSED THAT I'M NOT ON THE PHONE.

.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I GUESS WE'LL JUST TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN IF YOU KNOW FROM THE BEGINNING, UH, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE BID STATEMENT, SO YOU KNOW, LOWER THAN EXPECTED? SO WE'RE DOING MORE.

WELL, WE HAVE, AGAIN, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AS BRIAN SAID, PUTS TOGETHER AN INTERNAL ESTIMATE BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING.

UH, AND A LOT OF THE, THE NUMBERS WE'VE SEEN COME IN ARE EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH.

SO THEY PUT TOGETHER

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A, AN ESTIMATE, UM, BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEEING ELSEWHERE.

BUT THERE'S NO NUMBER PUT IN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ESTIMATED COST PUT IN THE BID.

IT'S HERE ARE THE, HERE ARE THE AREAS WE'RE LOOKING FOR, LIKE WITH CURBING A PRICE PER LINEAR FOOT.

UM, AND THERE'S OTHER ITEMS IN ALONG WITH THAT, THE CONTRACTOR THEN TAKES THAT AND GIVES US, UH, AN ESTIMATE, YOU KNOW, A BID ALONG WITH OTHERS.

AND I THINK BRIAN SAID THERE WAS, THERE'S QUITE A FEW THAT BID THIS PROJECT AND THEY'RE ALL VERY, UH, OTHER THAN ONE HIGH, VERY CLOSE.

SO THE NUMBERS ARE GOOD, ACTUALLY LOWER THAN EXPECTED.

WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET $2 MILLION FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK.

AND CLEARLY, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK TO DO OUT THERE.

SO IF WE NEED BE AND TIME PERMITS, WE WANNA EXTEND THAT WORK.

GARRETT? YES.

HELLO.

HI.

YOU WANTED TO COME ON TO TALK ABOUT YOUR, UH, YOUR RESOLUTION? ONLY IF THERE'S QUESTIONS.

I'M HERE FOR YOU.

IS THERE ANYTHING WE SHOULD BE QUESTIONING ? UH, NO, SIR.

JUST A QUICK NOTE.

I THINK AS YOU SAW, THE SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB REQUESTED ADJOURNMENT, UH, WHICH WILL LEAVE US WITH TWO HEARINGS, THE DSS DISTRICT AND THE, UH, SPECIAL PERMIT OLD JACKSON AVENUE FOR CHILD DAYCARE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS ME.

I HAVE, I WANT THE 18, THE C THE C 18.

THEY SEE YOU OUT.

SO THEY LEFT OUT, THE PD LEFT OUT.

WHAT DID YOU HAVE ON THERE THAT, OH, I, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE DSS DISTRICT IS SET FOR TOMORROW, AND AS WELL AS CHILD DAYCARE SPECIAL PERMIT APPLICATION.

AND, UM, THE SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB HAD REQUESTED AN ADJOURNMENT, SO I THINK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN NOTED ON THE AGENDA.

NO, BUT DID YOU HAVE ANY ACTUAL CD RESOLUTION FROM TODAY? UH, NO, I DON'T.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, LET'S WHY? YEAH, NOW, NO.

SO THE QUESTION THAT ALWAYS COMES UP IS A LAST MINUTE ADJOURNMENT.

WE ALLOW ANYBODY WHO SHOWS UP TO SEE, UH, WE COULD ASK THEM IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE AT THE NEXT MEETING.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE NOW, UM, WE STILL HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO WE'RE GONNA PAY THE SONOGRAPHER FOR THE, WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION? YEAH, I THINK THERE'S NO HARM IN ALLOWING SOMEONE THAT SHOWS UP TO SPEAK IF, IF THEY SO CHOOSE.

UM, I DID REACH OUT TO AN EMAIL CHAIN OF INTERESTED RESIDENTS TO UPDATE THEM ON THE ADJOURNMENT.

SO, UH, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I, I, I, I BELIEVE THOSE RESIDENTS WILL INTEND TO SPEAK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND NOT TOMORROW.

OH, UH, I SHAVED A WEEK AGO, BUT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL UPDATE THAT TOMORROW.

, THEY ACTUALLY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THIS HAIRCUT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS BEFORE AND AFTER , BEFORE AND AFTER I'VE GOTTEN EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS, UM, IN FAVOR OF, OF BOTH STYLES.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO TO BE HONEST.

, I, I THINK YOU MIGHT WANNA TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, OPINION.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE, IT'S NOT OPINION, WHAT SHE SAYS.

UH, OH, I'M, I'M SORRY.

I GOT BIG TROUBLE.

ALRIGHT, SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S MAYBE WE'LL HIT ON THE AGENDA THEN, IS THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE ADJOURNED, BUT ANYBODY WHO, UM, WISHES TO COMMENT TO CAN'T COME TO THE NEXT MEETING, UM, THERE'S NO REASON FOR PEOPLE TO SAY THE SAME THING.

AGREED.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, LEMME DO JUST ONE THING.

THIS IS A COMPROMISE

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IDEA THAT I HAVE.

TOPIC TWO.

I HAVE A COMPROMISE.

OH, YOU'RE SWITCHING TOO.

I UNDERSTAND.

I WAS ONLY ONE, YOU KNOW, .

HOLD IT OVER.

I'M, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT THE PERSON WHERE THE BOARD WANTS TO GIVE THE UPGRADE TO IS A VERY GOOD WORKER, VERY DEDICATED EMPLOYEE, BUT I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL.

THE ISSUE IS THAT I SAY IS, UM, I JUST DON'T LIKE THE IDEA, UH, OF GIVING, OF CHANGING IT FOR ONE, ONE WHO ONE, ONE PERSON AND NOT, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE FOR ONE SALARY ENTRY.

THE SUGGESTION THAT I HAD WAS, UM, WHAT IF, UM, AS A COMPROMISE YOU WOULD CONSIDER A ONE YEAR STIPEND.

WE CAN BE THE SAME TO AMOUNT, UM, PROVIDED THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT REDUCED, UM, THE POSITION OF, UM, REDUCED , UM, TO THE REST OF THE YEAR.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BOB, DAN SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD REDUCE, UH, HE'S NOT SURE THAT WE NEED ANOTHER, UH, BUILDING, ASSISTANT BUILDING INSPECTOR.

SO HE WOULD SAY, LISTEN, THE REST OF THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, YOU, I WILL GIVE HER THIS, THIS STIPEND SO SHE COULD BE DOING EXTRA WORK.

UM, I'LL REDUCE, YOU KNOW, THE POSITION.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BUILD THE POSITION OF THE INSPECTOR.

THEN, UM, NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND IN OCTOBER, HOPEFULLY BY THEN WE'LL HAVE A BUILDING INSPECTOR AND, UM, IN THE 2023 BUDGET, IF, UM, IF THERE'S ONE LESS POSITION, THEN YOU KNOW, WE COULD JUSTIFY, YOU KNOW, THE UPGRADE BECAUSE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT IS RUNNING MORE EFFICIENTLY.

UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, I DON'T THINK WE DID FOR THE COURTS.

I, WE, THEY CHANGE IT FROM HOME FROM ALL THE PARTTIME.

YOU SEE, YOU SEE THE ISSUE THAT I TOOK THEM IN HOURS.

ONE STAFF MEMBERS, THIS IS UNIQUE.

FIRST OF ALL, ONLY TITLE COUNSEL TITLE, AND SECONDLY, THIS TITLE HAS PAR WITH THE ASSISTANT BUILDING CENTER POSITION UNTIL THE ASSISTANT BILLING SECTOR WERE GIVEN GROUP INCREASES.

UM, BUT NOT THIS PERSON.

I THINK WE'RE RIGHT.

IDENTIFY THE ONLY, RIGHT.

THE ONLY THING THAT I'M SAYING IS THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE IS JUST PHILOSOPHICAL PROBLEM.

I THINK I KNOW THAT EVERY DAY, PERHAPS NOT EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, FREQUENTLY PEOPLE COME AND SAY, I'D LIKE AN OFFER, I'D LIKE A SALARY INCREASE.

AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BASICALLY BEEN TAKING THE POSITION THAT IN THIS ECONOMY I'M SAYING, NO, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES.

AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, I REALIZE IN THIS SITUATION, BUILDING DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW IS OPERATING WITH FEWER EMPLOYEES AND THEY'RE BUDGETED.

AND IF, IF, UH, AND WE ALL ARE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO, UM, TIGHTEN UP THE WAY GOVERNMENT IS OPERATING, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I, I SAID FEEL IF WE GAVE A ONE YEAR STATEMENT, AND IF THERE'S ONE LESS, UM, EMPLOYEE THERE, THEN IT'S EASY TO JUSTIFY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEN SHE'S DOING, YOU KNOW, FOR A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY, SHE'S DOING SOMETHING THAT OTHER PEOPLE, A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE WOULD, WOULD DO.

AND THEN, THEN I COULD FEEL COMFORTABLE.

AND AGAIN, UM, IF IT TURNS OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR, UH, THEY KEEP THE POSITION, YOU KNOW, VACANT CAN, THEN I WOULD, IN THE BUDGET, I WOULD THEN INCLUDE THE, THE, THE THE GROUP INCREASE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2023.

SO I JUST SORT OF FEEL, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN, AND I ALSO FEEL THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PERMANENT BUILDING INSPECTOR.

I JUST DON'T FEEL, I FEEL THAT IT'S SORT OF, I PERSONALLY FEEL, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT IT'S WRONG TO, UH, TO MAKE CHANGES IN, UH, IN JOB CLASSIFICATIONS BEFORE YOU HAVE A PERMANENT BUILDING INSPECTOR WHO IS GONNA BE, WHO COULD INDEPENDENTLY REVIEW, YOU KNOW, ITS EMPLOYEES AND DECIDE HOW THAT DEPARTMENT OPERATES.

SO AGAIN, IT WOULDN'T, I WOULD HAVE NO, IF YOU FOLLOWED MY RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, A ONE YEAR STIPEND AND THEN, AND THEN THERE'S NO CONTROVERSY.

AND I THINK, I THINK THAT, I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BASICALLY, UM, I THINK EVERYBODY JUST, YOU KNOW, A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REWARDING SOMEBODY WHO'S HELPING

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TO KEEP THE DEPARTMENT OPERATIONAL WHILE WE DON'T HAVE A BUILDING INSPECTOR.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE'RE REDUCING THE WORKFORCE, THEN THERE'S NO REASON WHY, UH, WHY THE DEPARTMENT CAN'T, UM, OPERATE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HELP GIVE PEOPLE EXTRA MONEY, DO MORE WITH US.

SO, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE SUGGESTING, LET ME SEE IF I GET THIS RIGHT, THAT YOU GIVE THIS PERSON A STIPEND, BUT IT'S SUNSETTED AFTER THE PROVIDED AND PROVIDED YOU EXPECT, KEEP THAT PERSON ON AFTER NO PROVIDED AFTER THE GUILT DOING THE SAME JOB.

THAT'S SOMETIME ON THE FIFTH.

HOW, HOW WE RETAIN IN THIS EMPLOYEE.

SHE WANTS, SHE'S SAY , WE DON'T, SO WE DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR, SO I JUST, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY CONTROVERSY.

SO IF WE DON'T AGREE WITH YOU THAT, IS THAT WHERE YOU SEE THE CONTROVERSY YET? NO.

UNDERSTAND.

WE ALL, WE JUST, BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALL, WE ALL SPOKE ABOUT HOW WE FELT ABOUT THIS POSITION, AND NOW YOU COME WITH THE, YOU HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, BOB DAM AND IT WOULD'VE, IF YOU GOT, IF YOU'RE GONNA MEET, IT'LL BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A MEETING WITH ALL OF US PRESENT SO WE ALL CAN HEAR WHAT BOB DAM AND SAYING INSTEAD OF THESE ONE-OFF MEETINGS, SO WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS IS SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT YOU JUST SAID YOU HAD A MEETING WITH BOB DAM, HAD A MEETING WITH, YOU SAID YOU HAD A MEETING WITH BOB DAM AND HE, AND YOU DISCUSSED, RIGHT? NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I DID I NOT NO, I DID NOT HAVE A MEETING IDENTITY.

WE SHOULD.

OKAY.

SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO LET'S JUST BRING IT BACK.

SO THEN LET'S JUST BRING IT BACK AGAIN TO, TO COUNCILMAN JONES' STATEMENT.

LET'S BRING, LET'S BRING BOB DAMON AND LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION COLLECTIVELY AND NOT BE ONE OFF CONVERSATION SO WE ALL CAN MAKE AN INFORMATIVE, ABSOLUTELY UNWAVERING AND THE NEED TO MAKE THE CHANGE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING BE, YOU KNOW, REDUCING STAFF, UM, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BUILDING.

AND SO I DON'T WANT TO PRE-JUDGE, UH, IN ADVANCE WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE, AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SEPARATE ISSUE.

THIS IS A SINGLE ISSUE WHERE SOMEBODY HAD PILOT WITH OTHERS IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THEN OTHERS GOT THIS TITLE INCREASE TO THE GREAT APPROVAL, UH, AND SAID SHE DID NOT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WRONG.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE AT TOWN HALL WHO FEEL THAT THEY'RE UNDERTAKE MANY, MANY PEOPLE.

NO, BUT WAIT, WAIT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.

, RIGHT NOW FOR A DIFFERENT SCENARIO, YOU SAYING PEOPLE SAY, I FEEL HIM ON THE PAGE, I GO MY MANAGERS OFFICE, I'M ON THE PAGE.

OKAY.

BUT, BUT IF THIS, IF THIS PERSON WAS LEFT OUT RIGHT WHEN EVERY OTHER, WHEN ALL OF HER COLLEAGUES AT THE SAME TIME WHO'S IN ON THE SAME TIME, WE GONNA SCORE THE SAME LEVEL WAS LEFT OUT AND WAS I GIVEN AND SHE WAS NOT GIVEN WHAT WAS DESERVED? THAT'S NOT FAIR.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HOW, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE FACTS.

AND YOU, I THINK THAT IT WOULD'VE MADE, OKAY, LET'S GET THE FACTS AND LET'S, LET'S HOLD OFF THE DISCUSSION.

HAVE BOB DARE THAT'S TRUE.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RUSHING.

WELL, THIS HAS BEEN ON FOR A WHILE.

THIS, THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT BEFORE.

BUT LET ME JUST HAVE, LET ME HAVE A QUESTION INTO CONVERSATION.

EMPLOYEE.

NO, THAT IS TRUE.

BUT, BUT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR THAT WE HAVE TO BE FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD TO EVERYONE.

AND WHEN WE SAY THAT, AND WE SAY THAT IF THIS WOMAN, IF THIS PERSON WELL IS ALREADY SAID, SHE, SHE SAID, SHE SAID SHE, SO IF, IF THIS, IF THIS INDIVIDUAL AT THE TIME WAS LEFT OUT AND SHE WAS NOT AND SHE WAS TREATED UNFAIRLY, WE NEED TO RECTIFY THAT.

WE NEED TO RECTIFY THAT.

BUT IF THIS IS A SPECIAL THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, NEED HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT IT'S NOT FAIR AND BELIEVE HAPPENED.

THIS HAS BEEN ON FOR A WHILE.

WE'VE BEEN BACK ON ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT IT DOES.

OKAY, LET'S DISCUSS IT AGAIN.

LET'S DISCUSS IT AGAIN.

YOU, YOU CAN PULL LOG DAMN EMAILS ON THIS ONE ISSUE BEING ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN AS TO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO IMPROVE BETTER, UH, MORE EFFICIENT FUNCTIONING.

WELL, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT COMPLIES WITH THE ACCOUNT LAWS.

WHEN I

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, SHE SAID THAT COULD BE OUT TITLE ADDITIONAL ROLE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ARE BEING GIVEN.

SO WE DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M SAYING WE DON'T, BUT THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BEFORE WE VOTE, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT THE WHOLE BOARD WOULD, UM, THAT THAT'S, WE WOULD MEET WITH HIM.

WE CAN MEET WITH HIM TODAY IF YOU WANT.

CAN WE MEET WITH HIM TODAY? WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE AND THEN NOW, NOW WE, SO WE, BUT WE HAVE, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, YOU ALWAYS SAY THAT THERE'S THREE VOTES ON THE BOARD.

IF THERE'S THREE VOTES THAT WE SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD AND, AND IF WE CAN, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO HARD FEELING.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE, JUST MADE A COMPROMISE IDEA THAT WOULD'VE DONE RESPECT.

RECALL, WE, WE, WE GO, WE DON'T ACCEPT YOUR A LONG TIME AGO WHERE THAT'S WHEN YOU GET PEOPLE SAYING, HEY, WHEN I DID THIS, I WANT, I DID THAT.

I WANT TO, WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T, THIS IS OVER $10,000 INCREASE AND IT'S GONNA GO ON EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOR FOREVER.

AND I FEEL WELL MY MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT OTHER EMPLOYEES GO DEPARTMENT WEREN'T PAID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING PAID ANYWAY.

SO MAYBE WE RECTIFYING THAT GRAPH CHARGE OF HOW MUCH REVENUE IS COMING IN, RIGHT? BUILDING DEPARTMENT DATA SAFETY.

BUT WHEN YOU DO YOUR BUDGET, YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT BUILDING, SEE HOW MUCH REVENUE CAME IN FROM REBUILDING, GOING AFTER DOING.

AND UH, AND, AND SO A PROPERLY FUNCTION AS THE FISH BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT ONE, YOU NEED .

UH, AND, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADJUST SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES, UH, SO THAT, SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T THINK, HEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO DO IT.

IRE UN SAY UNEXPECTED.

WE DON'T WANT THAT AND WE NEED TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THAT'S NOT HAPPEN.

OKAY.

WE MOVE ON.

SHALL WE MOVE ON? ANY OTHER ISSUES WITH THIS SYSTEM? ARE WE READY TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE? WE'RE GONNA BE SCHEDULING, UH, JULY 13TH.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE NOISE.

, UH, I DON'T THINK, OH, I THINK YOU WANT .

I THINK HE COMMEND THAT.

I'M SORRY, WHICH ONE? THAT P O Y THE APPOINTMENT FOR THE OFFICER NOT HAVE.

OKAY.

WHO CALLS? WE HAVE DEFINITELY TOMORROW.

GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE.

GOODNIGHT.

GOODNIGHT.

GOODNIGHT.

GOODNIGHT.

RECORDING.

STOP.