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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING TO BE HELD VIA ZOOM-ENABLED VIDEO CONFERENCE Agenda THURSDAY, June 23, 2022 – 6:30 P.M. ]
APPLICANTS.AND I, OKAY, SO I'M GONNA TRY THIS AGAIN.
UM, I WANNA MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FOR THE, UH, JULY 9TH MEETING.
SO THE NEXT THING UP IS OUR APPLICANT FOR, UM, THREE EASTERN PARKWAY IN HARTSDALE.
WELCOME TO THE C A C GENTLEMEN OWNER.
AND WE THE ARCHITECT, EXCUSE ME, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.
I DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS MUTED AND WE HAVEN'T ABLE SHARE.
WHO IS SEAN? SEAN DOES SEAN HAVE A SEAN LENNON? SEAN HAVE A LAST NAME.
SEAN LENNON, I'M SORRY, WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT? HIS NAME IS SEAN LENNON.
UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THE PRESENTATION OF THE PROJECT.
WELL, UH, DO YOU WANNA SEE THE PLANS OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME JUST TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING? WELL, I THINK, I, I THINK USUALLY WHAT WE FIND IS VERY HELPFUL IS IF YOU SHOW US IF YOU CAN SHARE A SHARE SCREEN, MATT WILL GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO SHARE SCREEN.
AND YOU CAN WALK US THROUGH THE PROJECT THAT WAY.
I THINK THAT VERY OFTEN IS, UM, SURE.
WELL THIS IS, UH, THESE ARE THE, THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS THAT WE PREPARED, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT CON, THE SCOPE OF WORK CONSISTS, CONSISTS OF A PARTIAL SECOND STORY EDITION.
THERE'S NO WORK ON THE FIRST FLOOR EXCEPT FOR A SUPPORTING COLUMN IN THE, UH, UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER OF, OF THE, OF THE HOUSE.
SO IF YOU CAN SEE ON A PLOT PLAN HERE, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, THE SCOPE OF WORK IS IN THIS UPPER LEFT CORNER.
AND, UH, BASICALLY WE'RE GOING OVER AN EXISTING GARAGE ROOF AND THEN OVER AN OPEN AREA.
THE TOTAL INCREASE OVER THE LOT IS, IS ABOUT, UH, 191 SQUARE FEET.
HOWEVER, THE ONLY AREA TOUCHING THE GROUND IS THIS ONE FOOT BY ONE FOOT COLUMN.
SO, IF I CAN JUST SCROLL AHEAD AND SHOW YOU WHAT THESE, THESE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITION PLANS.
UH, BASICALLY IT'S SPLIT LEVEL, UH, HOME, UH, ON EASTERN DRIVE.
AND THE, THE, THIS IS THE EXISTING, SORRY, THIS IS THE EXISTING ROOF PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING BE BUILDING OVER THIS ROOF AND TOWARDS THE BACK.
SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE THE NEW, THE NEW SECOND STORY.
IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE USED FOR, UH, A RELOCATED BEDROOM AND A NEW BATHROOM AND A LAUNDRY AT, IN THIS AREA HERE.
SO THE FIRST FLOOR DIRECTLY BELOW THE GARAGE REMAINS, THIS REMAINS OPEN EXCEPT FOR THE, THE ROOF, THE CEILING OVERHEAD, OF COURSE.
SO THIS IS THE COLUMN THAT PROMPTED THIS MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE DISTURBING, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE GROUND WITH, WITH THIS ONE FOOT BY ONE FOOT COLUMN.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, AND I FEEL THAT THERE'S VERY LITTLE DISTURBANCE TO, TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S EXISTING IN TERMS OF WETLANDS OR WATERCOURSE.
UH, AND WE ARE TAKING PRECAUTIONS WITH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PREVENT ANY POSSIBLE RUNOFF WITH HAY BALES AND SILK FENCES, UH, AROUND THE SITE.
ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I DO HAVE ONE.
UM, WE'RE PUTTING A IN BACK OF THE GARAGE AREA, YOU'RE DEFINITELY BUILDING ON TOP OF THE GARAGE.
THE AREA IN BACK IS THE SECOND STORY.
IS THERE ANYTHING UNDERNEATH THAT ON THE FIRST FLOOR, OR IS THAT AN OPEN SPACE? THIS IS ALL OPEN RIGHT NOW.
IN FACT, IT'S, UH, MOSTLY PAVED ALREADY, BUT THE AREA WHERE THE COLUMN IS GOING IS NOT PAVED.
BUT THE AREA THAT IS PAVED? YES.
UM, WILL THAT THAT BE ENCLOSED NOW? OR WILL THAT BE OPEN? IT'S STILL OPEN.
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FLOOR IS LIKE SUSPENDED IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING.IT, IT'S, IT'S LIKE, UH, AN OVERHANG, BUT, YOU KNOW.
I, I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOKING AT THAT, THAT I'M THINKING IS NORMALLY EVEN WHEN WE HAVE A DECK UNDER AN AREA LIKE THAT RIGHT.
WE TEND, WE TEND TO LOOK FOR IT TO BE GRAVEL RATHER THAN CEMENT.
SO THAT THERE'S MORE WATER GOING THROUGH.
UM, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY, SEE WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THAT THERE'S, UH, NO CHANGE IN, IN, IN WHAT'S HAPPENING BELOW.
UH, THE GROUND IS GONNA REMAIN EXACTLY THE SAME.
I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UH, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE AN, UM, A DRAWING WHERE WE CAN SEE THE, HOW FAR YOU ARE FROM THE IN, WITHIN THE HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER? OH, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, DRAWING.
UH, BUT, UH, ON, ON YOUR COVER PAGE WHERE YOU SHOW THE HOUSE ITSELF WITH THE, UH, THE ADDITION, I THINK THAT WOULD SHOW WHAT, UH, SHE'S LOOKING FOR.
UH, ASSUMING NOT A PLOT PLAN, THIS IS THE PLOT PLAN.
IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE YOU'RE REFERRING TO OR THIS IS THE ONLY PLOT PLAN I HAVE? YEAH.
THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.
THAT GIVES, THAT GIVES THE, THE PROPERTY LAYOUT.
BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, MATT, IS THERE IS A WETLANDS IN BACK OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND MY QUESTION IS, WHERE IS THE HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ON IN RELATION TO THEIR HOUSE? THE ENTIRE PROPERTY? THE ENTIRE PROPERTY LIES WITHIN THE WET A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER.
THE WETLAND GOES ESSENTIALLY RIGHT UP TO THEIR REAR FENCE AND PROPERTY.
SO WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE EXISTING CEMENT THERE IS WITHIN THE HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER OF THE WETLANDS.
AND, AND IT'S A WETLANDS BECAUSE I WAS GOING DOWN SEACO ROAD AND I, I WISH I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AND THERE'S DEFINITELY WETLANDS PLANS GROWING THERE.
SO I THINK THERE, THERE HAVE TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION THEN TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE WITHIN THE WETLANDS BUFFER ITSELF.
UM, 'CAUSE NORMALLY ANYTHING, ANY CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE WETLANDS BUFFER, WE TEND TO PUT SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THE APPROVAL THAT HAVE TO DO WITH, UM, THE USE OF FERTILIZERS ON THE PROPERTY GOING FORWARD.
AND ALSO IN AN AREA LIKE THAT, I REALIZE IT'S EXISTINGLY CEMENT, BUT NORMALLY IF THAT WERE A DECK WE WOULD BE REQUIRING IT TO BE GRAVEL UNDERNEATH.
HOW DO OTHERS FEEL ABOUT THIS? WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING? ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS OR THE REST OF THE CAC? I, YEAH.
YEAH, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME, SOME, UM, INFILTRATION OF WATER THERE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF JUST THE, WE COULD IMPROVE IT IF WE, I THINK THE INFILTRATION OF THE WATER.
LIZ, ANY COMMENTS? NO, I, TERRY, I AGREE WITH YOU.
UM, I, I MEAN, I, I, I, I FEEL I, I'M SYMPATHETIC WITH THE FACT THAT, THAT THE PROJECT IS REALLY NOT IN, IN, IN, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IMPEDING ANY, ANY, IN ANY WAY SIGNIFICANTLY BEYOND WHAT IT IS TODAY.
BUT IN FAIRNESS TO, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, INCONSISTENCY OF APPLICATIONS? UM, I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, THE, UM, AREA THAT IS UNDERNEATH THE ADDITION THERE, THAT IT BE REPLACED WITH GRAVEL.
UM, OF COURSE WE DON'T HAVE THE WATER GOING THROUGH WITH A DECK.
THE WATER COMES DOWN, SO THAT'S DIFFERENT HERE.
IT'S TERRY, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, IT, THERE'S NO WATER SHOULD REALLY, UNLESS THERE'S A BLOWING WIND STORM, NO WATER SHOULD EVEN GET UNDER THERE.
SO THE TOPO, ANYBODY LOOK AT THAT, THERE'S NO TOPO, BUT IT, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY THE WATER'S NOT FLOWING TO THE HOUSE, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S NO, UM, NO, IT'S VERY, FOR MY SITE VISIT, IT'S A VERY FLAT SITE.
UM, THE BACKYARD GENTLY SLOPES, UH, INTO THE WETLAND, SO TO SPEAK, LIKE AWAY FROM THE HOUSE.
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IT'S, IT'S PRETTY FLAT.I GUESS IN A SENSE, I REALLY THINK BECAUSE NO WATER SHOULD BE GETTING IN THERE, YOU KNOW, THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, 'CAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A DECK, WE HAVE SPACING ON THE DECK.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY, SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IS THAT ONE POST.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THE ONE POST MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S BEING, UM, ON THE PROPERTY.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW THAT, DO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ANY, UH, FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN REALLY WHAT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT ON THIS ONE? NOT FOR ME.
ANYONE FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING MORE THAN WHAT'S ON THE STAFF REPORT? NOPE.
TERRY, JUST TO, JUST TO, UM, CLARIFY.
SO WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPLICANT REPLACE THE CEMENT WITH GRAVEL, IS THAT NO, BECAUSE BECAUSE IT IS DIFFERENT THAN A DECK.
THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO CURRENT WATER REALLY, UH, WHEN THE, THERE'S NO WATER SATURATION ISSUE BECAUSE YOU ARE PUTTING SOMETHING OVER IT THAT IS GONNA PROTECT THE GROUND FROM THE WATER COMING DOWN ANYWAY.
AS, AS DONNA SAID, UNLESS THE WIND IS BLOWING.
'CAUSE LIKE, NORMALLY WHEN WE HAVE A DECK, WE SPECIFY THAT THE DECK BOARDS CAN'T BE THAT CLOSE TOGETHER, SO THE WATER PERCOLATES DOWN, BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
SO I, I THINK THAT, UM, THEY'RE REALLY JUST GOING WITH THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION FROM SOMEBODY THAT WE JUST GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION? SO MOVED.
WHO WAS THAT? LIZ MOVED TO SECOND.
IS ANYONE OBJECTING OR ABSTAINING? OKAY.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR COMING BEFORE THE C A C ENJOY YOUR NEW ADDITION.
CAN I JUST ASK WHAT, WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STAFF REPORT? WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THE, THE STAFF REPORT, UH, CONTAINS, UM, A LIST OF, AND COULD YOU, UH, STOP SHARING, UH, PLEASE.
JUST SO WE CAN SEE EVERYBODY FACE.
I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT, IF ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO, UH, WHEN WE SUBMIT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
MATT, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? MY COMPUTERS SLOW, SOMETIMES
UH, SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, IN THE STAFF REPORT ARE FAIRLY STANDARD RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ARE IN EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION, UH, BEFORE THE C A C.
UM, AND I CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THEM WITH YOU.
I DON'T HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF ME AT THE MOMENT.
UM, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
AND, UH, WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CAC, I WILL, UH, TAKE THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, HOPEFULLY AT ITS NEXT MEETING AND ASK THEM TO TURN JURISDICTION OVER TO ME SO THAT I CAN ISSUE A DECISION, UH, FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE THIS IS A SUPER MINOR WETLANDS.
CAN, CAN WE GO TO THE BILLING DEPARTMENT AND SUBMIT OUR, UH, PLANS NOW? OR DO WE NEED TO WAIT FOR NO, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO WAIVE JURISDICTION.
UM, AND THEN FOR ME TO ISSUE A DECISION, ONCE I HAVE ISSUED A DECISION, THEN YOU CAN TAKE THAT AND GO TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
UM, THEY'RE MOSTLY THINGS LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, PUTTING HAY BALES TO PROTECT RUNOFF AND GOTCHA.
STANDARD GOOD PRACTICE CONSTRUCTION STUFF.
AND IF THERE WERE, IF THERE WERE PLANTINGS INVOLVED, THERE WERE SOME DIRECTIONS ON THE TIME, TIME WHEN THE PLANTINGS HAD TO BE INSPECTED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
HAVE A HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND EVERYONE.
THAT IS PROBABLY THE RECORD TIME WE EVER DID ONE OF THESE
UM, OKAY, SO THE NEXT THING UP IS GARY, WHO I THINK PROBABLY DIDN'T EXPECT US TO BE, SO, UH, OKAY.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, JAMES JUST ON, WAS JAMES WITH THE APPLICANT OR WAS? YEAH, JAMES IS HERE.
UM, AND, AND, AND I CAN CERTAINLY KICK THINGS OFF, BUT, UH,
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IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I THINK JAMES IS PREPARED TO, UH, JUST GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF, OF THE, UH, EVOLUTION OF THE, THE THE NEW NEW PROJECT PROPOSAL.UM, HE CAN GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW IF YOU LIKE.
BUT, UM, SO JUST TO KICK THINGS OFF HERE, UH, YES.
SO AS, AS YOU RECALL, THE TOWN BOARD, UM, AFTER, UM, RECEIVING COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC AND, AND INVOLVED AGENCIES, INTERESTED AGENCIES LIKE THE C A C, NEW YORK STATE, D O T, WESTCHESTER COUNTY PLANNING BOARD, UH, OPTED FOR THE, UH, ALTERNATIVE H WHICH IS THE, UH, 113, UH, ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE SUBDIVISION PROPOSAL FOR, FOR THE ELMWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
SO, UM, WE WERE IN THE MIDST OF, AND THAT WAS PART OF THEIR FINDING THEIR DIRECTIVE FOR THE FINDING STATEMENT.
SO AS STAFF, WE WERE, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH, UH, LABEL BELLA, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, PREPARING, UH, A FINDING STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF THAT, THAT ALTERNATIVE H OF THE HUNDRED 13 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, AND THEN IN THE MIDST OF THAT PROCESS, THE APPLICANT REACHED OUT TO US AND, UH, INDICATED THAT AFTER, UH, RECONSIDERING, UH, ACTUALLY COMMENTED THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, WHICH HAD INDICATED, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD.
AND AS PART OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD HAD INDICATED THAT, UH, SHOULD THE SITE BE DEVELOPED, UH, BY, SHOULDN'T THE SITE BE IDENTIFIED BY THE TOWN BOARD AS PREFERRED FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY VERSION.
UH, THE PLANNING BOARD ACTUALLY INDICATED THAT IT WOULD BE THEIR HOPE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD CONSIDER, UH, WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE CD CONSERVATION DISTRICT OVERLAY.
UM, AND THAT'S AN OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT EXISTS IN THE TOWN.
AND IT ENABLES WHEN, WHEN, WHEN UTILIZED, AND IT KEEPS THE UNDERLYING ZONING AND IT ENABLES, UH, FLEXIBILITY WITH RESPECT TO SETBACKS AND LOT SIZES.
IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS YOU TO REDUCE THE LOT SIZE, UM, BY 50%.
AND, AND, AND, UM, AND IT GIVES FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE SMALLER LOTS.
HOWEVER, UM, THE INTENT OF THE CD OVERLAY IS NOT TO, UH, FACILITATE EXTRA DENSITY.
SO THE APPLICANT, UM, REACHED OUT TO US AND INDICATED THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON A, A, A DERIVATIVE OF ALTERNATIVE H THAT ACTUALLY WOULD EMPLOY THE CD OVERLAY.
UM, SO WHAT WE DID IS WE ACTUALLY PUT THE BRAKES ON OUR WORK ON THE FINDING STATEMENT, UH, ALERTED THE TOWN BOARD.
AND, UH, AND, AND THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THAT PLAN, WHICH YOU NOW HAVE.
UH, IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD, AND, UM, THE TOWN BOARD SAW SOME OF THE MERITS IN IT.
AND I THINK JAMES IS GONNA PRESENT THAT THIS NEW ALTERNATIVE TO YOU.
UM, AND BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO JAMES, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS NOW THAT WE SORT OF TOOK THIS, UH, HIATUS ON, ON, ON DRAFTING THE FINDING STATEMENT.
SO IF THE CD OVERLAY IS TO BE, UM, A PART OF THIS, THIS PROPOSAL, UM, IT WOULD REQUIRE A ZONE CHANGE.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS THE TOWN BOARD HAS REFERRED, ACCEPTED A PETITION OF THE APPLICANT FOR THE CD OVERLAY, UH, DISTRICT, AND REFERRED THE CD OVERLAY NOT ONLY TO THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT TO THE C A C AND ALL THE INTERESTED AND INVOLVED AGENCIES.
SO, UH, WE, WE SENT THAT TO YOU, WE SENT IT TO ALL INTERESTED AND INVOLVED AGENCIES, AND THE TOWN BOARD IS DUE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 13TH.
SO THAT'S, UH, MIDDLE OF NEXT MONTH ON A WEDNESDAY AT THEIR REGULAR MEETING.
AND, UM, THE TOWN BOARD WILL BE COLLECTING, UH, COMMENTS FROM, FROM, UH, IN INTERESTED IN INVOLVED AGENCIES.
UM, SO IF THE C A C FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION, UM, FINDS ITSELF IN A POSITION TO, UH, MAKE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS OR FINDINGS, UH, BASED ON THIS NEW ALTERNATIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD CERTAINLY AS STAFF ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.
AND, AND THAT THAT, THAT THAT DOCUMENTATION OR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, SHOULD BE SENT TO THE TOWN BOARD.
ULTIMATELY, WHAT THE TOWN BOARD COULD DO IS, UM, IF IT, IF IT, UH, CONTINUES TO SEE MERIT IN THE CD OVERLAY, UH, THE TOWN BOARD WOULD ACTUALLY, UM, PROVIDE A NEW DIRECTIVE TO HAVE THE FINDING STATEMENT REFLECT, UH, THIS NEW ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE CD OVERLAY.
BUT THAT'S ALL CONTINGENT UPON THE PROCESS.
THEY WANNA ALLOW FOR THE, THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THIS, THIS, THEIR COMMENT AT THE HEARING.
AND THEY, THEY DO WANNA HEAR FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, WESTCHESTER COUNTY STATE, C A C, AND SO ON.
SO, UH, HAVING SAID THAT, THAT THAT'S SORT OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS.
AND, UH, MAYBE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO JAMES, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY, ANY PROCESS QUESTIONS? OKAY.
SO IF NOT, UH, JAMES, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UM, UH, ADDRESS THE C A C WITH AN UPDATE ON, UH, IN AN OVERVIEW ON THE NEW ALTERNATIVE? SURE.
UH, MY NAME IS JAMES CARRIS WITH J M C.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
UH, WE'RE, UH, BEFORE YOU A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WITH, UH, THE F E I S, UH, PROCESS.
UM, SO, UH, AS GARRETT INDICATED, UM, WE HAVE A, UH, A NEW ALTERNATIVE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE FEEL HAS SOME, SOME BENEFITS AND MERITS TO PROCEED WITH.
AND IF I MAY SHARE MY SCREEN, UM, I WILL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
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SHARE THAT.WELL, SO, SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW WAS THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, UH, ALTERNATIVE H THAT THE TOWN BOARD WAS, UH, PROCEEDING WITH PREPARING THEIR FINDINGS BASED ON, SO IF YOU RECALL, JUST TO REFRESH, THIS WAS 113 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, UH, WHICH INCLUDED AN 8.6 ACRE PARKLAND DONATION TO THE EAST OF THE CONED POWER LINES AND A FOUR LOTS SUBDIVISION, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THAT ALONG DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
AND THEN IT ALSO INCLUDED, UH, ZONING COMPLIANT, UM, UH, 109 UNITS ON THE WESTERN PARCEL HERE WITH TWO CURB CUTS ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
UM, AND, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WAS PRETTY MUCH A STANDARD CONVENTIONAL SUBDIVISION LAYOUT.
AND, UH, JUST AS GARRETT HAD INDICATED, BASED ON, UM, THE TOWN BOARD'S DIRECTIVE TO PROCEED WITH A, UH, PREPARATION OF A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND THE PLANNING BOARD'S COMMENT ABOUT THE, UM, CONSERVATION DISTRICT OVERLAY, UH, WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO, UH, DELIVER THE BEST POSSIBLE, UH, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, UH, LAYOUT THAT WE COULD HERE.
SO IN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, UH, THE, UH, PARAMETERS ESTABLISHED BY THE CD ZONE, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE SAME DENSITY NUMBER OF UNITS, WHICH IS 113 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
THEY'RE ALL CONCENTRATED ON THE LARGER OF THE TWO PARCELS TO THE WEST OF THE POWER LINES.
AND NOW YOU'LL NOTICE HERE THE, UH, 14.2 ACRE PARCEL TO THE EAST OF THE POWER LINES IS NOW PROPOSED TO BE DEDICATED TO THE TOWN AS OPEN SPACE PARKLAND.
HOWEVER, THE TOWN, UM, WISHES TO USE THAT, THAT LAND.
UM, THERE'S NO, UH, RESIDENTIAL CURB CUTS OR SUBDIVISION ON THIS SIDE.
IT'S ALL CONCENTRATED ON THE WESTERN PARCEL.
THE, UH, CURB CUTS PROPOSED UNDER ALL OF THE ALTERNATIVES, UH, LINED UP WITH THE, UH, SENIOR HOUSING ACROSS THE STREET AND, UH, RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY LINED UP WITH WESTCHESTER VIEW LANE ARE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS STUDIED, UH, IN THE, UH, D E I S AND F E I S.
AND, UH, WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE IS, UH, SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF, OF OPEN SPACE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE PRESERVING ALL OF THE WETLAND BUFFER AREAS HERE ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
WE HAVE GOT A CONTINUOUS GREEN BUFFER HERE ALONG DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
UH, WE'VE GOT SIGNIFICANT, UH, PRESERVATION OF WETLAND BUFFER AREA HERE IN THE, UH, NORTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, AREAS OF STEEP SLOPES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PRESERVE HERE, AND THEN CENTRAL TO THE SITE, AND THEN AGAIN, UH, ALONG THE WESTERN AREAS HERE.
SO, UM, FEEL THAT, UH, THIS, THIS PLAN HAS A LOT OF MERITS AND A LOT OF BENEFITS.
UM, LOT SIZES ARE, ARE CONSISTENT WITH, UH, THE UNDERLYING ZONING, WHICH IS R 20 AND R 30.
THEY ARE, UH, SMALLER THAN, UM, THAN, UH, THE R 30 PERMITS.
THEY ARE APPROXIMATELY, UH, 18,000 SQUARE FEET TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
UH, THE HOUSING PRODUCT WOULD, WOULD BE A, UH, 2000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
UH, SO THE, THE HOUSING SIZES WOULD BE, UH, JUST AROUND 3,500 TO 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND, UH, THE, THE ZONING, UH, TO THE SUBDIVISIONS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST ARE, UH, R 10 AND I THINK R R 7.5.
SO, UH, THIS IS, PROVIDES EVEN MORE OF A, A NICE TRANSITIONAL COMMUNITY AS, UH, THE DENSITY KIND OF GETS A LITTLE BIT, UH, LESS AS YOU HEAD DOWN TO DOPPS FERRY ROAD.
SO, UM, I GUESS THAT'S A, A, A PRETTY GOOD OVERVIEW OF, UH, THE PLAN AND, UH, HAPPY TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS, UH, AT THIS TIME.
DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE.
AND IT'S, UM, I NOTICED THAT YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF, UH, WATER RETENTION IN THESE, UH, AREAS IN ADDITION TO THE POND AREA.
AND I WAS WONDERING IS WHERE IS THAT WATER COMING FROM? IS IT, IS IT, UM, COMING FROM THE HOUSES OR WHAT IS THE, UM, THOUGHT ON ALL OF THESE MULTIPLE ARE, ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABOVE GROUND WATER RETENTION? SO THESE, THESE AREAS THAT WE'RE SHOWING AS POTENTIAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREAS, THERE'S TWO ALONG DOBBS FERRY ROAD HERE AND HERE, UH, ONE IN THIS CORNER, ONE UP IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
AND THEN WE'LL OBVIOUSLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UH, THE WETLANDS UP HERE TOO AS WELL.
BUT, UM, THE SITE HAS, UH, SOME TOPOGRAPHY AND THERE, THERE ARE DRAINAGE DIVIDES ALONG THE CENTER OF THE SITE.
AND, UM, PART OF THE, THE F E I S AND D E I S PROCESS, WE HAD A, A FULLY ENGINEERED SET OF SITE PLANS WITH, UH, ESSENTIALLY THESE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREAS IDENTIFIED AND DESIGNED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE KNOW THAT, UH, THE, THE OVERALL DRAINAGE BOUNDARIES HERE ARE NOT GONNA BE CHANGING TOO MUCH.
SO WE KNOW WHERE THE WATER'S GOING.
WE KNOW THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED THESE AREAS
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FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND THAT THEY WORK WITH THE, UH, PREVIOUSLY DESIGNED PLANS.THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE UPDATED AND CONFIRMED AND SIZED APPROPRIATELY.
BUT, UH, THE, THE STORMWATER WOULD BE GOING TO THESE, UH, DETENTION AND INFILTRATION AREAS AND, UM, IT WILL BE, UH, LIKELY, UH, UH, SURFACE WATER AND THEN, UH, SOME, SOME GROUNDWATER RECHARGE THAT OCCURS THERE.
SO, UH, IT'LL ALL BE, UH, IT'LL MANAGE ALL OF THE STORMWATER THAT FALLS ON THE SITE.
SO I, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE HOUSES HAVE TO HAVE, EACH HOUSE HAS TO HAVE ITS OWN COAL TECH DEVICES, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THIS WATER IS AN ADDITIONAL SURFACE WATER THAT WOULD BE RUNNING OFF THE PROPERTY THAT ISN'T BEING CAUGHT BY SHRUBBERY OR ANYTHING ELSE, AND IT'S COLLECTING, CORRECT.
IT WOULD BE WATER THAT'S, UH, FLOWING OR STORMWATER THAT'S FLOWING OVER THE ROADWAYS, AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, CONSERVATION AREAS THAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE.
UM, SO IF IT'S COMING OVER AND THEN IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE SURFACE WATER, SO WOULD IT BE FENCED OR WHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING IN TERMS OF SAFETY ON THAT? UM, YES.
TYPICALLY STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREAS ARE, ARE PROVIDED A FENCE, UH, AROUND THEM, UH, TO PROVIDE A, A LEVEL OF, UH, SAFETY THERE.
SO YES, THERE WOULD BE FENCING ULTIMATELY, BUT, UH, I HAVE TO STOP YOU THERE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A VERY PRELIMINARY PLAN NOW THAT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING FULLY ENGINEERED AND, AND DEVELOPED.
BUT YES, THEY WILL BE, UH, SAFETY, UM, UH, MEASURES LIKE THAT.
WELL, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A FAIR QUESTION TO ASK AND ALL DUE RESPECT.
I MEAN, I THINK THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO COMMENT ON THIS, AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS 'CAUSE ONE OF THE AREAS I'M LOOKING AT, AND I, I, I GUESS I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT OF IT AND, AND THE SIZING OF IT.
AND THE CONSIDERATIONS IS THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT IS BEING DIRECTED TO THE DUBS BURY ROAD AREA, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT AREA IS CURRENTLY FLOODING WITH THE EXISTING POND THAT IS THERE ANYTIME WE HAVE A HEAVY RAIN THAT THAT FLOODS, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DIRECTING MORE WATER TO THAT AREA.
AND WHAT IS THE FALLBACK POSITION IN TERMS OF ENSURING THAT WE DON'T FIND OURSELVES WITH DOVES FERRY ROAD FLOODED AS A RESULT? SURE.
WELL, THAT, THAT WATER'S GOING THERE TODAY.
AND WHAT WE'RE CHARGED WITH DOING IS DESIGNING A PLAN THAT DOES NOT INCREASE, OR DOES, FIRST OF ALL, DOES NOT CHANGE THE EXISTING DRAINAGE, UH, UH, BOUNDARIES AND DRAINAGE PATTERNS.
AND THEN SECONDLY, DOES NOT INCREASE, UH, UH, RUNOFF RATES, DOES NOT INCREASE DISCHARGE THAT'S GOING TO THOSE AREAS.
SO WE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT ULTIMATELY, UH, IS DESIGNED HERE HAS TO MEET ALL OF THOSE RUNOFF REDUCTION AND INFILTRATION UH, REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT IS, THAT IS PART OF THE DETAILED STORM WATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN THAT ULTIMATELY WILL BE PREPARED AND REVIEWED BY THE TOWN FOR THIS.
AND THE, AND I GUESS THE, ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE IS, I NOTICED ON THE PLAN, UM, IN FRONT OF ME, AND I I'M SURE THIS IS JUST A, UH, KIND OF A GRAPHICS THING.
THE FOOTPRINT OF THE EXISTING CLUBHOUSE IS STILL THERE IN THE ONE AREA THAT WILL BE REMOVED, CORRECT? YEAH, THE CLUBHOUSE AND ALL THE OTHER, UM, FACILITIES OR BUILDINGS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING REMOVED.
NOW, ACTUALLY, THAT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS THAT THE OWNER IS GOING THROUGH WITH THE TOWN BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
SO, UH, YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THAT'S SHOWN ON THIS PLAN.
UM, THIS IS JUST AN UNDERLYING EXISTING CONDITIONS PLAN, BUT, UH, THERE WILL BE NO, UH, CLUBHOUSE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT WILL BE REMOVED.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I DO, TERRY.
UH, LET'S SEE IF I CAN FORMULATE THIS QUESTION.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE USING AN OVERLAY, A CONSERVATION, UH, OVERLAY.
JUST WHAT IS THAT GIVING, WHAT ADVANTAGES IS THAT GIVING YOU FOR THIS NEW PLAN? WHAT THAT, WHAT THE CONSERVATION OVERLAY, UH, ENABLES, UM, THE, UH, APPLICANT TO DO IS TO PRESERVE AREAS OF NATURAL FEATURES.
SO THOSE AREAS INCLUDE, UH, AREAS OF STEEP SLOPES, AREAS OF EXISTING NATURAL VEGETATION, TREE STANDS, UM, AND WETLANDS AND WATERCOURSE AND OTHER WATER FEATURES ON THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE ON THE WESTERN PARCEL, UM, IS, IS AREAS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT, UH, WOULD QUALIFY AS THESE, UH, ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS THAT WILL BE PLACED INTO THE, THE CONSERVATION, UM, EASEMENT.
SO IT, YOU, I, I THINK, UM, OH GOSH, I HEARD, UH, ZONING CHANGES.
WHAT ZONING CHANGES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME FOR THIS.
SO GARY, DO YOU WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
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UM, WITH THIS CD OVERLAY, WHICH HAS, UH, BEEN EMPLOYED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE TOWN, UM, BUT IT HAS BEEN EMPLOYED, UM, WITH, WITH TWO SUBDIVISIONS THAT I'M AWARE OF IN, IN RECENT TIMES, UM, THE UNDERLYING ZONING REMAINS.SO THE, THE MIX OF R 20 AND R 30, UH, ON THE SITE WOULD REMAIN, AND THE CD OVERLAY WOULD, WOULD BE A HATCH ON THE ZONING MAP AND THE, SO THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT KEEPS INTACT THE, THE, THE DENSITY CALCULATIONS AND, AND WILL HOLD TO THE ONE 13.
UH, BUT THE C D A IS, IS ESSENTIALLY A, AN OVERLAY, UH, DISTRICT.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THE FLEXIBILITY THAT'S ALLOWED IS, UM, LOT SIZES THAT CAN BE UP TO, UH, 50%, UH, IN SIZE.
IT ALLOWS FOR, UM, REDUCED LOT WIDTHS AND, AND, AND, AND IT PROPORTIONALLY ALLOWS FOR, UM, ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, MORE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
SO REALLY IN ESSENCE, IT, IT PICKS UP THE AREAS IN GREEN THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE.
UH, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A POSSIBILITY, UH, WITHOUT THE CD OVERLAY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO JUMP BACK TO THAT OTHER, UH, CD OVER THE OTHER PLAN, I'M SORRY, ALTERNATIVE H THE ONLY REAL GREEN SPACE ON THAT, UM, AND IT'S NOT GREEN HERE, BUT JAMES CERTAINLY COULD HAVE, AND YOU'RE NOT SEEING MY CURSOR, BUT HE COULD HAVE MADE THE, UH, POND AT THE FRONT OF THE SITE GREEN AND, UH, THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER.
UM, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN GREEN.
SO, UM, THERE WAS SOME
BUT WITH THE CD OVERLAY, IT REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT JUST ALLOWS YOU TO AUGMENT THE, THE, THE OPEN SPACE AVAILABLE ON THE SITE.
SO THAT IS LAND THAT, UM, CAN'T BE DEVELOPED.
IT, IT, IT, IT WILL HAVE A, A CONSERVATION, UH, EASEMENT IS, IS, WHAT IS THE TERM, UH, THAT WOULD BE FILED ON THE SUBDIVISION PLAT.
AND, UM, THAT MEANS THERE, THERE COULD BE NO STRUCTURES IN THERE, UH, NO DEVELOPMENT, UM, YARDS WON'T ENCROACH INTO THAT AREA.
IT WILL ESSENTIALLY BE A NATURAL AREA WITH, YOU KNOW, ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.
UH, IF THERE'S A NON-NATIVE TREES THAT GROW OR, OR YOU KNOW, OR THERE'S A HAZARDOUS TREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD REALLY BE THE EXTENT OF RIGHTS ALLOWED IN THERE.
UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION ALSO OF OBVIOUSLY MAIN, MAKING SURE THE PONDS ARE MAINTAINED PROPERLY, BUT THAT, THAT THE CD OVERLAY HAS BEEN USED.
UH, IF YOU RECALL, UH, CHANCY SUBDIVISION, UM, THAT WAS AN AN AN EIGHT LOT SUBDIVISION, AND THE CD OVERLAY WAS EMPLOYED THERE.
UM, AND IT ALLOWED, UH, FOR A, A, A CONTIGUOUS, UH, OPEN SPACE AREA TO BE MAINTAINED.
UH, IT WAS UTILIZED IN BLUEBERRY HILL, I BELIEVE THE, UH, C A C WAS A PART OF BOTH THOSE PROCESSES.
UM, AGAIN, NO EXTRA DENSITY, BUT, UH, AS AN OPEN SPACE, UH, IN ENVIRONMENTAL AREA, UH, RETENTION MECHANISM SORT OF, UH, ZONING TOOL, I, I DO THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS DOES DO, IT MINIMIZES THE AMOUNT OF EARTH MOVEMENT BECAUSE IT, IT WILL PRESERVE, UH, SOME AREAS THAT HAVE STEEP SLOPES.
SO THAT IS PROBABLY A GOOD THING.
UM, IT, IT, SINCE IT MAINTAINS THE UNDERLYING ZONING, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT, IT DOES PROVIDE PROBABLY AESTHETICALLY A MORE ATTRACTIVE COMMUNITY.
AND AS I SAY, AS I LOOK AT IT, I THINK THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME LITTLE BO 10 YEAR OLD BOYS WHO ARE GONNA HAVE SOME WOODS TO GO HIDE IN WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY WANNA GO PLAY AND PRETEND THAT THEY'RE PIRATES OR WHATEVER.
SO, I MEAN, I CAN SEE SOME PLUSES TO IT.
I DO THINK MY ONE CONCERN WITH THIS IS BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME BIG, I THINK, EXPERIENCES IN THE TOWN WITH THESE RETENTION, UH, UH, AREAS IS, UM, THAT I THINK, I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FORMED FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE AREAS AS, UH, GARRETT POINTED OUT FOR THE WOODED AREAS TO REMOVE INVASIVES.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, SINCE SO MUCH OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT NOW IS BEING INTO THESE AREAS, THAT THOSE AREAS BE MAINTAINED CORRECTLY.
AND I, I THINK THAT MAYBE, UM, IF THERE IS A C A C RECOMMENDATION, IT HAS TO BE TO A RECOMMENDATION FOR LOOKING FOR WAYS TO STRENGTHEN THIS MONITORING.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, I KNOW MIKE, MIKE AND I HAD SORT OF HAD A PREVIEW ON THIS A BIT EARLIER AND TALKING BACK AND FORTH, THAT WE REALLY FEEL THE, UM, THE MECHANISM FOR THE MAINTENANCE HAS TO BE, UM, KIND OF THE RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE HAS TO BE, WAS FROM AN OUTSIDE UNBIASED, UM, SOURCE AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT BE THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENT.
AND THEN THERE'D BE SOME SORT OF PENALTIES IF THEY DON'T DO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE REALLY
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HAVING SOME ASSUMPTIONS HERE ON STORMWATER MANAGEMENT THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME WAY TO ENSURE THAT THEY TAKE PLACE.I THINK IF WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT A LOT OF SEA SLOPES WITH, WITH TREES ON THEM, I'D BE A LITTLE BIT LESS CONCERNED, WELL, I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF THE INVASIVE SPECIES.
I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT COULD LEAD TO FLOODING, I REALLY THINK WE PROBABLY NEED A RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, STRENGTHENS THE REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND HAVING SOME SORT OF PENALTY MECHANISM WHERE THE TOWN CAN COME IN AND BILL IT BACK TO THE HOMEOWNERS OR SOMETHING THAT ISN'T DONE.
DONNA, DO YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT SINCE YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSE TO THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WITH THIS SORT OF STUFF? NO, TERRY, I AGREE.
THERE, I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDATION AND THAT SHOULD ALL BE, UM, INCLUDED IN THERE.
AND I HAVE TO SAY, I LIKE THE PLAN BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO ALTERNATE H JUST FOR A SECOND, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE LOTS ARE NARROW AND DEEP.
AND I REMEMBER THINKING, WELL, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY IF, IF IT'S WAY THE BACK OF YOUR PROPERTY, YOU'LL LEAVE SOME TREES THERE.
YOU DON'T NEED TO CLEAR THE WHOLE SITE, BUT YOU CAN NEV EXACTLY.
AND AT LEAST WITH THIS PLAN, YOU CAN, THOSE WILL BE PRESERVED.
AND, AND I AGREE, TERRY, IT'LL BE A NICE, A NICE AMENITY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, FOR THE KIDS WHO LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THAT IN THEIR BACKYARDS.
YEAH, I I WAS WONDERING IF THERE ARE MORE TREES, LESS TREES BETWEEN THE TWO OR, YOU KNOW.
YEAH, WE DID, UH, WE DID LOOK AT THAT PRELIMINARILY AND UM, WE, WE SUBMITTED A COMPARISON CHART TO IDENTIFYING, UM, THESE AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT.
SO THE ALTERNATIVE H PLAN, UH, WAS APPROXIMATELY 506 TREES TO BE REMOVED.
AND AT LEAST PRELIMINARILY IN OUR FIRST LOOK AT THIS PLAN, UM, THAT'S REDUCED TO ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 339.
SO, UM, SIGNIFICANT, UM, SAVINGS AND TREE REMOVALS THERE TOO.
DO WE KNOW IF THESE AREAS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SHOWING AS, AS, UM, THE STEEP SLOPE AREAS? 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE PONDING AREAS ARE GONNA HAVE SOME LIMITED AMOUNT, UH, ABILITY TO HAVE TREES.
ARE THEY CURRENTLY PLANTED? THIS IS A GOLF COURSE.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME PROPERTIES WE LOOK AT WHEN WE LOOK AT AN EMPTY PROPERTY, IT'S COMPLETELY TREED.
THIS IS A CASE WHERE THE PROPERTY IS PRIMARILY NOT TREED.
DO WE KNOW IF THERE ARE EXISTING TREES THERE? THERE, YES.
YEAH, THERE ARE DEFINITELY EXISTING TREES.
UM, THE AND, AND AREAS OF STEEP SLOPES ARE, ARE PRETTY WELL ALIGNED WITH THE AREAS IN BETWEEN THE EXISTING FAIRWAYS, IF YOU THINK OF THE FAIRWAYS AS BEING KIND OF OPEN AND MORE LEVEL.
SO, UH, THERE ARE, THERE, THERE'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE THOSE NOW, WHICH THIS PLAN, UM, HELPS TO ACHIEVE.
YEAH, I I THINK WE MIGHT MAYBE, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS AS WE LOOK AT THIS, WE MIGHT WANNA THINK ABOUT, UM, MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON PLANTINGS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IN TERMS OF, UM, 'CAUSE I, IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE OPEN SPACE WHEN, BUT WHEN THERE'S NOTHING ON IT, I CAN'T GET TOO EXCITED ABOUT IT.
SO, AND, AND BECAUSE THIS WAS A GOLF COURSE, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO, YOU KNOW, UM, UNDERSTANDING ALSO JUST AROUND THE POND AREAS, UM, THAT WE HAVE THE CORRECT KIND OF PLANTINGS GOING IN FROM THE GET GO.
UM, BUT TERRY, ARE THEY GOING FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL YET, OR IS THIS JUST FOR SUBDIVISION? SO PROCESS WISE, UM, THERE, THERE'S CERTAINLY, UM, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD POINT TO RAISE FROM, UH, AT THIS POINT FROM THE C'S PERSPECTIVE TO, UM, ADVOCATE FOR, YOU KNOW, WETLAND PLANTINGS FOR THE NATURALIZED AREAS THAT WILL BECOME WETLANDS THAT ARE NOT WETLANDS NOW.
UM, BUT PROCESS-WISE, UH, DONNA, YOU'RE RIGHT.
UM, THERE WILL NOT BE A, UH, LANDSCAPING PLAN SUBMITTED AT PRESENT, UH, IF THE C D OVERLAY IS EMPLOYED, UM, THINGS LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WILL MAKE THEIR WAY INTO THE FINDING STATEMENT, UH, WHICH WILL AID ALL THE BOARDS AND, UH, THE APPLICANT TO KNOW THAT WHEN THEY DO PUT TOGETHER THAT, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY WOULD BE TECHNICALLY A SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
UM, YES, AT THAT TIME POST FINDING STATEMENT WHEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY, EVERYONE HAS THE CONFIDENCE LEVEL OF WHAT, WHAT THIS SITE WILL LOOK LIKE.
UM, YES, THERE WILL BE A FULL LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR THE NATURAL AREAS.
UM, THERE WILL BE A TREE REMOVAL PLAN, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY EXPECT OUT OF A SUBDIVISION PLAN.
UM, SO THAT, THAT WILL COME SOON.
BUT, UM, I THINK THE FIRST HURDLE IS TO, UM, REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE NEW DIRECTIVE OR THIS IS THE NEW CONCEPT AS OPPOSED TO ALTERNATIVE H SO THAT, THAT'S SORT OF THE NEXT KIND OF PLANNING PHASE AND, AND ENVIRONMENTAL
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PHASE THAT WE'RE AT.SO I, I GUESS THE, I GUESS I THINK DONNA IS CORRECT, THE ACTUAL PLAN PLANNED, UH, 4, 4, 4 SHRUBS HERE OR THERE COMES LATER, BUT IF WE PUT THIS IN NOW, IT SORT OF MAKES IT PART OF THE PROCESS WHEN THEY GO TO DO THE NEXT STEP.
IF WE DO IT NOW, CORRECT, YES.
'CAUSE THERE WILL BE FINDINGS AND, UM, AS OPPOSED TO JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, LEAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE GREEN AREAS, UH, UNDISTURBED AND, AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE LEAVE IF, IF THEY'RE TO BE UNDISTURBED AND LEAVING INVASIVE SPECIES, UM, IF NOTHING SAID THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTIVE.
BUT IF THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION TO, UM, REALLY TRY AND HAVE THAT BE A FUNCTIONING WETLAND, UH, AND THERE'D BE PLANTINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE NOW TO, TO GET BUILD THAT CONCEPT INTO THE FINDING STATEMENT.
OH, ONE OTHER THING, UH, TO THE CHAIR, CHAIR, WOMAN'S POINT BEFORE, UM, YES, EACH HOME WILL HAVE, UH, ON SITE, UM, DETENTION AND THAT COULD BE, UH, DRY WELLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, BUT WITH WHAT, WHAT THE ADDITIONAL STORMWATER BASINS WOULD DO IS IT GIVES FLEXIBILITY, UH, FOR THE ROADWAYS.
SO IN ALTERNATIVE H I THINK THERE WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE BEEN UNDER SUBSURFACE, UM, STORMWATER STORAGE, LIKE UNDERNEATH CUL-DE-SACS, FOR INSTANCE.
AND IT'S NOT EASY TO MAINTAIN THOSE TYPES OF SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MANHOLE AND IT'S JUST NOT READILY ACCESSIBLE.
IT'S DIFFICULT, UH, AND IT'S IN A TOWN RIGHT OF WAY.
SO NOW THE ONUS WOULD FALL ON THE TOWN IN THIS INSTANCE, UM, SOME OF THESE STORMWATER BASINS WILL PROVIDE, UH, AREAS SO THAT THE STORMWATER FROM THE ROADWAYS, UM, CAN ACTUALLY BE DIRECTED INTO THOSE AREAS.
SO IT, IT GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY, UM, FOR MORE NATURALIZED SYSTEM AS OPPOSED TO ALSO HAVING LIKE, I GUESS, DRYWALLS UNDERNEATH THE ROADWAYS, WHICH IS NOT A PRACTICE THAT WE TRY AND ENCOURAGE, BUT THERE STILL WOULD BE STRONG SEWERS, UH, WITH THIS ROADWAYS, CORRECT? OH, THERE STILL WOULD BE, BUT THERE WOULD BE MORE OF CONVEYANCE AS OPPOSED TO LIKE STORAGE.
SO THE, THE, UM, THE PARCEL THAT'S BEING DONATED TO THE TOWN, HAS ANYBODY ANALYZED, YOU KNOW, OR, OR DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW WELL TREATED IS THAT? AND UM, WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN? YOU KNOW, WAS THAT PART OF LIKE THE TREES COMING IN, TREES COMING OUT? WAS THAT PART OF THAT EQUATION? OR IS THAT JUST LIKE YOU, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THOSE, THAT PIECE.
SO THE, UH, EXISTING CONDITIONS PLAN, UM, DOES IDENTIFY THE TOBO AND THE TREES THAT ARE ON THAT, UM, 14.2 ACRE PARCEL.
THE PROPOSAL CALLS FOR, UM, NO DISTURBANCE AT ALL.
SO THE, UH, LAND THAT WOULD BE CONVEYED TO THE TOWN WOULD BE, LET'S, LET'S JUST SAY, UH,
UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY, PO RESPONSIBLE WAY POSSIBLE.
SO IF THAT MEANS, UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BE ON THE, THE, THE FLAT PORTIONS OF THE SITE, OF COURSE THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
UM, BUT AT PRESENT, UM, YES, WE DO KNOW THE EXISTING TRAITS AND THERE'S NO, UH, CONCRETE PLAN OF, OF WHAT TO DO WITH THAT LAND AREA PRESENT.
SO THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE, LIKE, UM, THE ANALYSIS OF HOW MANY TREES ARE COMING IN, TREES ARE COMING OUT, UM, UH, NO, LET ME JUST STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.
THAT WAS PART OF THE ANALYSIS, UH, THE, UM, THE NUMBER, THE 506 NUMBER, WELL, ALTERNATIVE H ALTERNATIVE H DID PROPOSE TREES TO BE REMOVED THERE.
SO, UM, YEAH, SO, SO WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING ALTERNATIVE H TO THIS, UM, THERE IS THE BENEFIT OF THAT, THE DELTA THAT WOULD'VE COME DOWN FROM THE 14.2 SIDE, UM, THAT IS QUANTIFIED AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A VALID QUANTIFICATION.
SO, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THOSE HOUSES THAT WERE GONNA GO ON THAT PARCEL, YOU HAD TO ASSUME SOME TREES WERE COMING OUT AND NOW YOU'RE ASSUMING THOSE TREES ARE NOT COMING OUT.
AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE FACT, RIGHT? WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
WELL, THEY WON'T COME OUT, RIGHT? THERE'S, UH, AND NOT TO DEVELOP THIS, THEY WON'T COME OUT, BUT EVENTUALLY IT MIGHT HAVE TO COME OUT SOME SOMETHING.
CAN I ASK TWO QUESTIONS? SURE, GO.
OH, JUST, JUST TO FOLLOW UP THERE.
BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC PROCESS INVOLVED THERE.
UH, THERE'S A PARKS AND REC BOARD AND, UM, IF AT SOME POINT THE TOWN MASTER PLANS THAT THAT PARCEL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THERE, THERE COULD BE BOARD IMPROVE, UH, INVOLVEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE SOME LEVEL OF, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMENT PERIOD.
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SO, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE ANY DEVELOPMENT, I THINK ONE WOULD ASPIRE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FLAT AREAS, TRY AND, UH, AVOID TREE REMOVALS TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.BUT, UH, I THINK TO DEVELOP SOME LEVEL OF PARK OVER THERE, IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT, UM, YES, THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, DISTURB TREE REMOVAL.
YEAH, I THINK LIZ, WAS THAT YOU, I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE WITH THE SCREEN UP, I CAN'T SEE PEOPLE'S FACES, SO ALL USE THE NEXT ONE.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE SEEING ALL THE GREEN SPACE AND PRESERVING SOME OF WHAT'S ALREADY THERE NATURALLY.
THAT, THAT IS VERY EXCITING TO ME.
UM, AS PART OF THE DETERMINING OF TREE, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE GREEN SPACES THAT WILL BE LEFT, WILL THAT INCLUDE A TREE INVENTORY? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT GETS DONE? YES, ABSOLUTELY IT DOES.
UM, THERE WAS AN EXISTING TREE INVENTORY THAT WAS PREPARED THAT NOW HAS, UH, SOME TIME HAS ELAPSED SINCE THAT.
SO WE ARE REACHING OUT TO, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE DAVY RESOURCE GROUP, TO PROVIDE AN UPDATED ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY SO THAT, UH, WE CAN ESTABLISH, UH, THE REQUIRED REPLACE REPLACEMENT VALUES, UH, TO COMPLY WITH THE TOWN TREE ORDINANCE.
BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GROWTH WITH AMONG, UH, THE INVASIVE VINES AND WHATNOT.
SO MY OTHER QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ASK THIS, AND, AND JUST CURIOUS IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD EVER CONSIDER, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF CON EDISON STILL HAS THEIR MORATORIUM FOR GAS HOOKUPS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS PROPERTY ALREADY HAS, BUT WOULD YOU CONSIDER, UM, A COMMUNITY GEOTHERMAL? I KNOW THERE'S A, A WOMAN AT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER WHO'S WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS AND THERE ARE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES THAT THE STATE IS OFFERING RIGHT NOW TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND IF YOU WANNA JUST SPEAK TO HER TO SEE, I, I DO KNOW, UH, THAT THE, UH, THE, THE CON EDISON MORATORIUM ON NEW GAS SERVICE, I BELIEVE IS STILL IN PLACE.
UM, SO THIS WOULD BE, UH, I GUESS AT THE FIRST PASS, IT, IT WOULD BE A PROPOSED TO BE AN ELECTRIC COMMUNITY.
UM, BUT ANYTHING REGARDING, UM, YOU KNOW, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, GREEN ENERGY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS IN THE FUTURE WITH, UH, OWNERSHIP.
SO YOU'RE NOT, WE HAVE WOULD BE, UM, COMMITMENTS OR ANYTHING TO THAT AT THIS POINT.
THAT TYPE OF, I DUNNO IF THERE WOULD BE ANY INITIAL LAYING DOWN OF ROADS OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE IT'S, IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING, THAT'S USUALLY SOMETHING YOU WANNA DO BEFORE YOU LAY THE ROADS DOWN.
BUT, BUT LIZ, I THINK, UM, THAT, THAT TYPE OF, UH, COMMENT IS, IS DEFINITELY THE TYPE OF COMMENT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, UH, FROM THE C A C TO, TO MAKE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I LOOK
UH, WE COULD ALL CHIP IN AND, AND HAVE A CHEAPER SYSTEM.
I, I'D BE ALL FOR THAT, BUT, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT COMMENT AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CAC TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THAT INTO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER CORRESPONDENCE YOU'D LIKE TO SEND TO THE TOWN BOARD, UM, SO THAT THE APPLICANT CAN CONSIDER IT IF, IF, IF IT CAN BE DONE ULTIMATELY, UM, IT'S A GREAT SELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE SELLING THE HOUSE AND YOU CAN REPRESENT THAT YOUR, UH, YOU KNOW, HEATING AND COOLING COSTS ARE GONNA BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
QUESTION AT THIS POINT, UH, THE APPLICANT, IS IT STILL THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO, UM, NOT BUILD THIS, BUT RATHER, UM, PUT IN THE ROAD AND THEN, UM, EXCUSE ME, I'M NOW STARTING TO GET SPAM ON MY, UH, CELL PHONE, WHICH I NEVER USED TO.
UM, IS THE APPLICANT DOING THE DEVELOPMENT? I IT'S STILL THE SAME OR IT'S GONNA BE FLIPPED.
IT'S STILL THE SAME APPLICANT'S, STILL THE SAME DEVELOPER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS CHANGES THEIR PLANS THOUGH, AT THIS EARLY STAGE.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS BASICALLY, UM, CONCEPTUAL, WILL THE APPLICANT BE PUTTING THE ROADS IN OR NOT? ONCE AGAIN, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, I CAN DEFINITIVELY THINK THEY MODEL IS, I THINK THEY DESCRIBE THEIR MODEL IS, UM, THAT, THAT THEY, THEY ACTUALLY DON'T MAKE ANY, ANY IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT, UM, THEY WOULD, UM, MARKET THE SITE TO A DEVELOPER THAT WOULD BUILD, UH, WHOLLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S APPROVED.
BECAUSE THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT 'CAUSE SOMETHING LIKE GEOTHERMAL, UM, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AS, AS LIZ SAID, SORT OF, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO DO IT BEFORE THE ROADS WENT IN.
SO THAT WOULD BE A CASE OF THAT WOULD THEN WORK IN TERMS OF SOMEONE COMING IN.
THEY COULD CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE PUTTING ON THE ROADS.
IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE THEY WERE GETTING, UM, THE ROADS, I MEAN, A LITTLE DIFFERENT MODEL, BUT WHEN WE HAD THE, UH, CARVE PROPERTY, IF THEY WERE SELLING THE LOTS, BUT THEY PUT
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THE ROADS IN, IF YOU REMEMBER A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO ON THE CARVE PROPERTY, THEY, THEY BASICALLY, THE, THE PERSON WHO DEVELOPED IT RAN THE, WERE WASN'T BUILDING THE HOUSES, THEY WERE SELLING LOTS, BUT THEY PUT THE ROADS IN.BUT IN THIS CASE, THE ROADS WOULDN'T BE GOING IN.
SOMEONE ELSE WOULD TAKE THE WHOLE PARCEL AND AT A LATER DATE COME IN WITH THE SITE PLAN AND PUT THE ROAD.
SO I THINK, I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO, UM, KIND OF PLAY OUT A, A QUICK HYPOTHETICAL BECAUSE I SIT IN A LOT OF PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS AND I DON'T THINK THIS WILL TAKE LONG.
SO, AND I, SO I THINK THAT THE QUESTION'S VERY HELPFUL.
UM, LET'S JUST SAY THE CAC MADE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT TALKED ABOUT THE VALUE OF, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING COMMUNITY GEOTHERMAL AND MAKES THAT A RECOMMENDATION.
LET'S JUST SAY THAT, UM, THE TOWN BOARD, UH, FIELDS THAT AND, AND AGREES, UM, THAT IT'S, IT'S A GREAT RECOMMENDATION.
UM, ULTIMATELY THAT COULD MAKE ITS WAY INTO THE FINDING STATEMENT.
I DO THINK, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO ME TO BE, UM, THE TYPE OF, UH, FINDING THAT WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE MANDATE.
I THINK IT WOULD FALL INTO THE VOLUNTARY SCENARIO.
UM, BUT IT WOULD BUILD, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, SORRY SHARON, I'M JUST GONNA MUTE YOUR MIC THERE, GETTING FEEDBACK.
UM, BUT UM, IT WOULD BUILD THE RATIONALE FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, THE PLANNING BOARD FOLLOWING THE FINDINGS, THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD GO THROUGH SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
AND IF IT WERE TO MIMIC THE FINDINGS, IT WOULD ALSO IDENTIFY IN ITS SPECIAL CONDITIONS, UH, THAT THE, UH, DEVELOPER SHOULD, UH, CONSIDER, UH, COMMUNITY GEOTHERMAL.
SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, UM, WHEN THAT DEVELOPER COMES IN AND ACTUALLY ASPIRES TO START CONSTRUCTION, THEY START PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR, UM, ROAD IMPROVEMENT PLANS, UM, AND, AND, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THERE'S SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE TOWN.
THEY DON'T JUST KIND OF SHOW UP AND GET A PERMIT TWO WEEKS LATER.
AND THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING.
WHAT THEY DO IS THEY MEET WITH US AND WE HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THIS INSTANCE COULD BE AN 18 PAGE APPROVAL LETTER.
AND BEFORE THEY, UM, GET THEIR PERMIT, WE GO THROUGH ALL THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, CONDITIONS.
SO IT'S, AT THAT TIME WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GET TO THIS COMMUNITY GEOTHERMAL, UH, POINT, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD GIVE US THE RATIONALE FOR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO APPROACH IT.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, THEY'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT INCENTIVES, THERE ARE INCENTIVES.
UM, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD REALLY BE THRUST INTO THE EQUATION AND IT WOULDN'T SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, SOMEONE'S, YOU KNOW, EVEN A DEVELOPER'S DEVELOPING AND THEN THEY SAY, OH MY GOODNESS, I CAN'T BELIEVE WE DIDN'T CONSIDER GEOTHERMAL.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE EVOLUTION OF HOW IT COULD CONCEIVABLY WORK.
BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW TO PLANT THE SEED, UH, IN THIS, UH, CAC C RECOMMENDATION, AND IT'S THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT IT COULD WORK ITS WAY TO NEW YORK STATE BUILDING CODE.
BUT, UM, BUT, SO THAT'S KIND OF JUST A, A QUICK HYPOTHETICAL OF HOW I COULD SEE THIS BEING BENEFICIAL AND, YOU KNOW, WORKING INTO THE EQUATION.
AND THAT, THAT SEEMS FAIR BECAUSE WITH THE GEOTHERMAL, THERE'S ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND DOESN'T ALLOW FOR IT.
IT, IT, IT, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK.
IS IS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS TRUE.
UH, ONE OTHER, JUST ONE OTHER QUICK POINT.
I I, I THINK THE CAC C MAY HAVE, UM, COMMENTED ON THIS, UM, ON YOUR FIRST, UH, FINDINGS, BUT I DON'T RECALL.
BUT I KNOW, I THINK LIZ WORKED IN QUITE A BIT OF SUSTAINABILITY COMPONENTS.
BUT, UM, FOR INSTANCE, ALONG THOSE, THAT SUSTAINABILITY LINE, UM, YOU COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, NOT NECESSARILY THAT EVERY HOUSE HAS TO, HAS HAVE, UM, SOLAR PANELS OR STUB UPS FOR, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLES, BUT YOU COULD, UM, MAKE A FINDING THAT, UM, AT A MINIMUM THE HOUSE SHOULD BE EQUIPPED SO THAT THE STUB UP IS THERE AND THAT THE, UM, HOUSE IS, YOU KNOW, HAS THE CONDUITS GOING UP SO THAT IF ONE DOES OPT TO DO SOLAR, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SORT OF TEAR UP THE HOUSE AGAIN.
UM, THAT IS ALSO A DIRECTION THAT NEW YORK STATE BUILDING CODE MAY GO.
UM, BUT THAT IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE SUSTAINABILITY HAT ON AND THE ENERGY CONSERVATION HAT ON.
UM, IT'S A SIMPLE MEASURE AND IT'S A GOOD SAILPOINT FOR SELLING A HOUSE.
HEY, THIS HOUSE IS READY TO GO WITH SOLAR.
THIS HOUSE IS READY TO GO WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC VEHICLE, UH, HOOKUP.
SO THESE ARE THE TYPE WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE PHRASE ALLERGY YOU JUST USED? GARRETT'S HAD THE RIGHT PHRASE.
WELL, I GUESS JUST, I MEAN, IN SHORT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MAKING THE HOUSES, UM, UH, SOLAR AND ELECTRIC, UH, CHARGE READY, IF YOU WILL.
UM, SO WHETHER IT'S JUST HAVING, UH, CON I, I DON'T KNOW, JAMES, DO YOU KNOW THE TERMINOLOGY? I GUESS IT WOULD BE, UM, CONDUITS READY AND, AND YEAH, EMPTY CONDUITS AND UH, WOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD COME IN IN IN THE FUTURE AND, UM, HARDWIRE THEM, I GUESS.
BUT WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THAT LANGUAGE.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S, UH, SOLAR AND, UH, ELECTRIC, UH, CHARGING, UH, BASICALLY COMPATIBLE ALREADY.
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CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, SURE.LIZ, WERE YOU DONE, LIZ? SHE'S SAYING YES, THIS IS HARD, BUT THEY'RE NOT SEEING EVERYBODY.
YOU WANNA TAKE THE DRAWING DOWN FOR THE MOMENT? SURE.
IT MIGHT BE EASIER IF EVERYONE CAN SEE EACH OTHER.
SO, TO, TO TERRY'S POINT THAT SHE MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT, UM, FLOODING ON DOBBS FER ROAD BEING AN ISSUE.
I UNDERSTAND, JAMES, HOW, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STORM ORDER, YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT WORSE, BUT CAN WE REQUIRE THAT THEY LOOK AT THE SITUATION EVEN IF IT'S NOT WORKING NOW, THEY MAKE IT BETTER.
WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU THE LANGUAGE FROM THE, UH, F E I S, UM, BECAUSE I, I KNOW THIS WAS RAISED.
UM, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY THE APPLICANT WILL BE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT STORMWATER BASIN.
UM, AND THEY, THEY WILL HAVE TO SHOW, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT INDEED THERE WILL NOT BE NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO DOPPS FERRY ROAD.
AND THAT WILL BE, UM, SHOWN CONCEPTUALLY, UH, THROUGH SECRA, AND THEN IT'LL BE FOLLOWED UP WITH THEIR STORMWATER PLAN, UH, AS WELL AS A STORMWATER PERMIT.
BUT, UH, THERE'S NO HARM IN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN, IN UPDATING YOUR COMMENTS TO, TO HIGHLIGHT THAT CONCERN.
UM, OF COURSE, NO ONE WANTS TO SEE DOBBS FERRY ROAD, UH, INUNDATED WITH WATER.
UM, SO, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL REVISIT THE, THE F E I SS AND WE CAN SEND THOSE EXCERPTS TO YOU TO REFRESH.
HOW THAT WAS GONNA BE ADDRESSED.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, DONNA.
I THOUGHT THAT WHAT DONNA WAS ASKING WAS THAT THE SITUATION BE IMPROVED.
YEAH, NOT, NOT BE, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD TOO AND, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS DO AWAY WITH THE FLOODING AS A BONUS.
I, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE PLAN, THE DRAWING THAT WE LOOKED AT.
YOU WANT US TO BRING IT BACK UP, NANCY? I JUST MAYBE BRIEFLY.
UM, THERE ARE SOME PALE, LITTLE PALE GRAY AREAS AND THEN THERE ARE THESE KIND OF, UH, FLUFFY AREAS AND I JUST WASN'T SURE WHAT THAT REPRESENTED.
IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE SHADED AREAS ON THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AREA HERE, PERHAPS IN THIS AREA HERE, YES.
UH, THOSE, THOSE ARE AREAS OF STEEP SLOPES.
SO UNDER THE TOWN STEEP SLOPE ORDINANCE, ANYTHING ABOVE, UH, 15% SLOPE IS A STEEP SLOPE.
AND THEN ANYTHING ABOVE A 25% SLOPE IS A VERY STEEP SLOPE.
AND ANYTHING 35 AND PERCENT THEY'RE ABOVE IS EXCESSIVELY STEEP.
SO THOSE AREAS ARE IDENTIFIED ON THIS PLAN AND, UM, UH, THEY ARE, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY LOCATED IN, IN THE, THE GREEN CONSERVATION AREAS.
UM, BUT THE MORE MODERATELY STEEP SLOPED AREAS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
THEY'RE PART OF THE EXISTING NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY.
AND WHAT ARE THE SORT OF FLUFFY GREEN BITS? UM, CAN YOU, UH, UH, IDENTIFY MAYBE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING ON THE PLAN? UH, WELL, UM, LET'S SEE IF YOU HAVE JAMES DIRECT HIS CURSOR.
JAMES, CAN YOU WIGGLE IT AND THEN YOU TELL LEFT, RIGHT UP, DOWN.
AND THEN NOW TO THE LEFT, LEFT, LEFT, LEFT.
OH, I THINK, UH, I THINK SHE'S REFERRING TO THE CRUNCHED CONTOURS, JAMES, LIKE THE DARK COLOR THERE.
SO THAT, ONCE AGAIN, THE DARKER THE COLOR, UH, THE STEEPER THE SLOPE.
SO THOSE WOULD BE, THIS IS A, OH, IF YOU KIND OF SEE HERE THIS HOW IT CURVES LIKE THAT, THAT'S KIND OF A, A RIDGE.
ALL OF THE SAME IS ABOUT SLOPES.
JAMES, I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF YOUR LOTS AND OF COURSE, I GUESS THE GRADATION, 'CAUSE THEY'RE SMALL, LIKE ON YOUR LOT, I GUESS IT'S 77 AND 24.
ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS PUTTING A HOUSE THERE BECAUSE OF THE SLOPE? WILL YOU HAVE ENOUGH AREA TO BUILD ON IT? YEAH, FOR EACH LOT THERE HAS TO BE THE, UH, BUILDABLE AREA CALCULATION THAT, UH, YOU GO THROUGH TO ESTABLISH THE F A R THAT'S PERMITTED THERE.
AND YOU'VE DONE THAT IN, BECAUSE THE STEEP SLOPE TAKES AWAY FROM YOUR AREA TO BUILD? IT DOES.
UM, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT YET.
UM, BUT UH, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE, UH, SUBDIVISION PROCESS, SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT.
BUT COULD THAT NOT THEN GIVE US A THING WHERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS GETTING IN THIS, HAVING THIS PLAN BE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BEING A WORKABLE PLAN? WELL,
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ONCE AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FULLY ENGINEERING EVERYTHING.SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT IF WE HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT FROM 76 AND GIVE IT TO 77 OR VICE VERSA, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE AN APPROPRIATE BUILDABLE AREA FOR A MARKETABLE LOT, THEN YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY DO THAT AS PART OF OUR DESIGN DESIGN PROCESS.
THE MAJOR IMPLICATION, THE MAJOR IMPLICATION OF THE, UH, THE LOTS IN WHITE THAT HAVE SLOPE AREAS UM, THERE WILL NOT BE A MANDATE THAT THOSE LOTS BE ENLARGED, BUT THERE WILL BE, UM, A CON CON, THE CONSEQUENCE IS THE HOME SIZE WILL BE SMALLER, UM, NOT DRAMATICALLY IN MOST INSTANCES, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO IF, IF 18,000 ALLOWS X AMOUNT OF SQUARE FEET, UM, ALL OF THOSE LOTS WITH SOME LEVEL OF STEEP SLOPES, IT WILL BE, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME PERCENTAGE LESS.
SO, UH, WHEN THERE'S A RANGE OF 3,500 TO 4,000, UM, IT'S ASSUMED THAT THE 4,000 WILL BE, UM, A SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, FOR, FOR THOSE LOTS WITH, WITH NO STEEP SLOPES.
AND OFTENTIMES THE, THE LOTS WITH SOME LEVEL OF STEEP SLOPES, UM, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD COULD GO AS LOW AS 3,500 OR EVEN POTENTIALLY LOWER.
BUT, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE SLOPES ARE REGULATED.
IT'S NOT PROHIBITED THAT YOU DEVELOP THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU CAN'T DEVELOP IN THEM.
SO THEY WILL BE ENCROACHED INTO IN MANY INSTANCES.
UM, BUT THE MAJOR IMPLICATION IS THE, UH, F A R OF THE HOUSE.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE I'M JUST LOOKING LIKE SIXTEENS ANOTHER ONE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE A LOT OF SLEEP SLOPE ON IT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE HARD 'CAUSE THIS IS AN, A TOPO MAP TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE FALLING ON THE PERCENTAGE.
I MEAN, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT'S, UH, THE 25% OR NOT.
SO, 'CAUSE 'CAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT A, A CONCEPT THAT IS BASED ON OPEN SPACE AND THE OPEN SPACE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL, TOTAL PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED.
SO I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT A LATER DATE SOMEONE'S GONNA COME IN AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS WHOLE THING REVISITED AND CHANGED IN SOME WAY.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE, IT, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THERE ARE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF LOTS THAT LOOK AS THOUGH THEY'RE TOTALLY UN, UN BUILDABLE BECAUSE OF ALL THE STEEP SLOPES ON THEM.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN BEING CONSIDERED? OH, AND MAYBE THE, MAYBE THE QUESTION WE SHOULD BE ASKING IS, I MEAN, I'M, 'CAUSE I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND ASSUMING THAT IT'S WORKABLE.
AND SO MAYBE THE QUESTION WE SHOULD ASK IS, ARE ALL THE LOTS, GIVEN THE CONSIDERATIONS OF, OF THE STEEP SLOPE FLOOR, ARE THEY REALLY BUILDABLE LOTS? AND IF SO, THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS PLAN? SO I THINK ONE, ONE THING I THINK TO THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT, UM, THERE WILL BE WITHIN THE, THE WHITE AREAS, UM, SIGNIFICANT DISTURBANCE.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A FAIR AMOUNT OF GRADE SHIFTS.
SO, UM, A LOT OF THOSE SLOPE AREAS, UM, POST-DEVELOPMENT WILL LOOK MUCH DIFFERENT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING IN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING LASER CUTS INTO, UM, A A BULK OF THE CONTIGUOUS AREA TO BE DISTURBED.
UM, SO, UM, IN THAT CONTEXT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE FACT THAT THEY'VE AVOIDED THE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT, THE, THE MAJOR STEEP SLOPE AREAS IS THE KEY.
I MEAN, IF YOU COMPARE ALTERNATIVE H UM, THE WHOLE SITE, UH, WAS GOING TO BE, UH, DISTURBED, RIGHT? AND A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, WHERE YOU HAVE THE MODERATELY STEEP SLOPES THAT CROSS OVER THE PROPOSED ROADWAY AREA, SO TO GET THAT ROADWAY, UH, ALIGNMENT IN THERE, UM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GRADE OUT ON EITHER SIDE, YOU KNOW, TO CATCH THE EXISTING GRADE THERE, TO GET THE, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISH THE APPROPRIATE, UH, ROADWAY SLOPES AND GRADES.
SO I, IT'S ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THIS AREA IS GONNA BE COMPLETELY DISTURBED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE TOWN ORDINANCE.
UM, AND THEN THESE STEEP SLOPES ARE NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT, UH, ANYMORE.
I JUST, THIS IS, THIS IS A TOWN ORDINANCE QUESTION, GARRETT.
UM, WHEN WE HAVE A BIG PARCEL LIKE THIS, AND I KNOW THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THIS PARCEL, THERE WAS JUST A MAJOR KIND OF BULLDOZING ACROSS THE PROPERTY TO LEVEL IT OUT.
BUT NOW WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO COMES IN FOR A, WE SEE THIS VERY OFTEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE PLANNING BOARD'S AGENDA, THEY HAVE A SINGLE LOT WITH A STEEP SLOPE.
ARE THEY ALLOWED TO, TO LIKE, COME IN AND LEVEL THAT OFF AND THEY JUST DON'T DO IT? OR WHAT'S THE STORY THERE? BECAUSE IT SEEMS, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT JAMES IS SAYING, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COME IN AND YOU HAVE THIS BIG OPEN AREA, YOU CAN KIND OF SHIFT THE, SHIFT THE DIRT AROUND AND KIND OF EVEN IT OUT.
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BUT, UM, DO WE ALLOW THAT ON A, ON A SMALLER LOT? LIKE IF IT WAS JUST A ONE BUILDING LOT, WILL WE LET THEM DO THAT? OR DO WE PREVENT THEM DOING IT? YOU'RE MUTED.FOR, FOR THE SINGLE LOT, UM, LOT, IF THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE, YEAH.
WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THE SLOPES IS DONE.
AND IF THAT RESULTS IN, UH, SIGNIFICANT RETAINING WALLS, UM, THAT'S WHAT OCCURS.
AND, UM, TRY AND KEEP THE FOOTPRINT AS TIGHT AS REASONABLE, UM, TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, SOME LEVEL OF USE OF THE LAND.
BUT OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, YOU RUN INTO TAKINGS CONCERNS ON THE SINGLE LOT.
UM, SO REALLY THE, THE HARD LOOK IS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS THAT RETAINING WALL, YOU KNOW, OF, OF THE SMALLEST SIZE NECESSARY TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S SORT OF THE THRESHOLD.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT MISSING SOME OTHER, UH, MORE APPROPRIATE WAYS TO DEVELOP IT.
BUT YEAH, THAT THIS, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO SLOPES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY MODIFIED, UM, YOU KNOW, RE ROUTINELY, BUT I THINK OUR CODE PROVIDES PROTECTION SO THAT IT'S REALLY A MINIMIZATION, UM, OF, OF THAT DISTURBANCE.
I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, WHAT IS THE, IT'S ELECTION TIME, UH, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME WE NEED TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU? SO THE TECHNICAL ANSWER IS, UM, BEFORE THE CLOSE OF THE WRITTEN RECORD ASSOCIATED WITH THIS JULY 13TH PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UM, LET'S SAY THAT THAT PUBLIC HEARING, UH, OCCURS AND THE WRITTEN RECORD IS KEPT OPEN, IT'S CLOSED.
LET'S JUST ASSUME, UH, IF THAT WERE THE CASE AND THE WRITTEN RECORD'S KEPT OPEN FOR, UM, TWO WEEKS OR 10 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING TOWARDS THE END OF JULY.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE, ONE HYPOTHETICAL SHARON.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO DONNA'S QUESTION 'CAUSE I DON'T RECALL IF IT WAS REALLY ANSWERED.
IS IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ASK TO BE A CON A CONSIDERATION.
A UH, MY, UM, MY VOCABULARY IS DESERTING ME.
CAN WE ASK THAT THE FLOODING PRO PROBLEM BE, UH, REMEDIATED AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT? UM, YOU CAN ASK, YOU KNOW, SO FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE'S FLOODING THAT'S COMING OFF SITE FROM A DIFFERENT PARCEL, UM, THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO.
UM, BUT WITHIN THIS SITE, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
THE, THIS PROJECT, UM, SHALL NOT CONTRIBUTE TO FLOODING ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT THAT'S PER CODE.
UM, BUT TO HIGHLIGHT THE CONCERN, THERE'S NO HARM IN THAT.
UM, BUT IF THE FLOODING IS COMING FROM ANOTHER PARCEL, WE CAN'T ASK THEM TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR JAMES ON THIS? I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
I'LL TRY AND START SOMETHING AND THEN WE CAN ALL EDIT IT TOGETHER THE WAY WE NORMALLY DO, IF THAT WORKS.
THIS, AND I THINK I CAN, WE CIRCULATED THE COMPARISON CHART, BUT UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU NEED, UH, BY ALL MEANS JUST LET US KNOW.
I THINK LIZ, LIZ, YOU'RE MUTED.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION STILL? JUST GIVING YOU A THUMBS UP, THAT'S ALL.
SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE THANK YOU JAMES FOR COMING.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, CERTAINLY AN INTERESTING APPROACH TO WHAT WE HAD AS A PROBLEM.
WE MAY HAVE A SOLUTION HERE AS A COMMUNITY WORKING WITH YOU, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GO FORWARD.
SO THE NEXT THING WE HAD THAT GARRETT WANTED TO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, I THINK I SENT YOU ALL THE INFORMATION ON, UM, THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION FOR THE MARIJUANA GROWING MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES.
AND I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE THIS COME TO US, AND IT REALLY, I THINK IT'S NOT JUST A QUESTION IN TERMS OF GROWING MARIJUANA, BUT REALLY ENVIRONMENTALLY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH PRIVATE HOUSES, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT INDUSTRIAL USE.
AND I THINK WE HAD SORT OF TOUCHED ON THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IF SOMEONE WERE GROWING MARIJUANA, WHAT WOULD THE ELECTRIC
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USE BE? UM, THAT WHEN WE GO INTO OUR NON-RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UH, HOW IS A C A C DO WE START TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS SHOULD BE FOR THOSE PEOPLE COMING INTO THOSE AREAS TO MITIGATE FOR THEIR USE OF ENERGY OR THEIR POLLUTION? IN OTHER WORDS, LIKE WHEN SOME OF THOSE AREAS THAT ARE BEING INCLUDED AS POSSIBILITIES FOR, IN THIS CASE, UM, MARIJUANA USE, WHICH IT COULD BE ANY OTHER INDUSTRIAL USE COMING IN.MANY OF THEM ARE WAREHOUSE AREAS.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOW ENERGY USE IF IT'S A WAREHOUSE, BUT YOU BASICALLY HAVE LIGHTS ON AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT.
BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT REALLY PRODUCES, TAKES ON A, REQUIRES A LOT OF ELECTRICAL.
BUT WE HAVE ONE THAT IS IN THE TOWN THAT DOES ACTUALLY, UM, IMPACT THE TOWN.
AND THAT'S, COCA-COLA USES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THE TOWN'S SHARE OF OUR NEW YORK STATE WATER COMING FROM THE NEW YORK STATE.
UH, D E C SAID, NO, THE NEW YORK CITY D E C COULD BE ACCURATE.
UM, SO I GUESS THE QUESTION THERE BECOMES ONE OF HOW DO WE GO ABOUT STRUCTURING A RECOMMENDATION IN TERMS OF WHAT WE THINK AS A C A C, WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING AND RECOMMENDING IN TERMS OF GOING FORWARD WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO THESE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREAS AND SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS, DIFFERENT, UM, TYPES OF USES, UM, THAT THEY DO NOT TAKE MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE OF RESOURCES OF THE COMMUNITY IN THE CASE OF MAYBE THE ELECTRIC USE AND, AND HAVING TO PROVIDE THE EXTRA THROUGH GREEN METHODOLOGY.
AND GARRETT, IF YOU CAN EXPOUND ON THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR WHEN I'VE BEEN TALKING, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN DO A BETTER JOB THAN I DID.
NO, HONESTLY, I THINK YOU FRAMED IT REALLY WELL.
UM, AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, UH, DID THERE, WE, WE PRESENTED THE LOCAL LAW ASSOCIATED WITH RETAIL DISPENSARIES.
UM, BUT WE ALSO HIGHLIGHTED THE FACT THAT, UM, IF THE TOWN IS SILENT ON OTHER ANCILLARY USES, SUCH AS GROW FACILITIES, DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES, UM, AND SO ON, UM, THERE COULD BE AN ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S JUST ALLOWED, UH, AS PART OF LIKE WAREHOUSING USES.
SO WE FELT IT MOST APPROPRIATE TO, UM, MAKE IT A SPECIAL PERMIT USE.
SO WE BUILT IN, UM, PROVISIONS WITH REGARD TO, UH, SECURITY AND OWNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, FOLLOWING THAT DISCUSSION, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD INVITED THIS GENTLEMAN, UM, THAT HAS A LOT OF INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE, AND HE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
UH, ABSOLUTELY IN NEW YORK STATE, THERE WILL BE DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES, THERE WILL BE, UH, INDOOR GROW FACILITIES, UH, PROCESSING FACILITIES.
AND, UM, HE HAD THIS CHART AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, UH, AN INDOOR FACILITY, UM, WOULD LIKELY HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WATER USE AND USE QUITE A BIT OF ELECTRICITY.
BY THE SAME TOKEN, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR ABOUT LIKE INDOOR MICROGREEN FACILITIES,
SO, UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, THE CHAIRWOMAN MENTIONED, YES, COCA-COLA HAS USES A LOT OF WATER AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A MORATORIUM ON, UH, THAT TYPE OF USE.
UM, I THINK AS A DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH DOING SOME RESEARCH TO QUANTIFY WHAT A, UM, PROCESSING PLANT, UH, OR A, UH, A GROW FACILITY WOULD USE.
AND MAYBE I, SO ME, MYSELF AND MATTHEW, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING INTO THIS AND, YOU KNOW, TRY AND IDENTIFY IF THERE'S A 100,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, INDOOR GROW FACILITY, LET'S JUST SAY, AND YOU WERE RIGHT, IT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED IN THE, THE GI DISTRICT, THE ALLY AND THE PD.
UM, BUT I THINK WHEN WE QUANTIFY THAT WE CAN, THE INFORMATION WE SHARE WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, WE CAN ALSO SHARE WITH YOU, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WILL BE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IF THAT MEANS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN WILL THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEST INTEREST TO LIMIT THE SIZE OF FACILITIES AND MAYBE ONLY HAVE X AMOUNT SQUARE FACILITY CAP, I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
UH, WE HAVE TO DO SOME MORE DUE DILIGENCE.
UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S THE CONTEXT OF OF, OF THE QUESTION.
AND UH, IT'S, IT IS A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE AS WE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD APPROVES A LOCAL LAW, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SEEKER PROCESS.
AND AS PART OF THE SEEKER PROCESS, IT ASKS, YOU KNOW, WILL THERE BE EXORBITANT WATER USE? WILL THERE BE EXORBITANT ELECTRIC USE? SO WE WILL QUANTIFY THAT, GET SOME DATA, SEND IT TO YOU, UM, AND IF YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS,
BUT THAT, THAT'S SORT OF THE, THE, THE FRAMING OF THE TOPIC.
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APOLOGIZE, I JUST DON'T HAVE THE, THE DATA RIGHT NOW.WE'VE, UM, JUST, I JUST DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE, THE MICROGREEN, UM, VERTICAL FARMING, THEY RECYCLE THE WATER.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S NOT HUGE WATER USE, BUT IT'S MORE, GOT IT.
SO FOR ALL I KNOW, UM, THE SAME CONCEPT MAY PERMEATE IN THE, UH, CANNABIS INDUSTRY.
UM, ONE WOULD HOPE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I, I JUST DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
SO I GET THAT THE GROW FACILITIES AND THE DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES WOULD BE USING ELECTRICITY AND OBVIOUSLY GROWING, BUT A DISPENSARY THAT'S RETAIL, THEY'RE NOT GROWING, THEY'RE JUST SELLING FINISHED PRODUCT.
WITH RESPECT TO THE DISPENSARY, UH, THAT CONCERN WAS NOT THERE.
UM, IT WAS MORE SO JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS, UM, HAVE IT LOOK INCONSPICUOUS, THAT TYPE OF THING.
UM, YES, THIS, THE CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED WAS MORE SO, UH, FOR THE LARGE SCALE INDUSTRIAL USE.
THIS ISN'T, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
OH, BECAUSE YOU, ME, YOU JUST MENTIONED, UM, PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS.
DOES THAT, WILL THAT ONLY COUNT TOWARDS FUTURE? 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A, THIS IS VAPE, NOT DISPENSARY, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN IN EDGEMONT WHERE I LIVE ABOUT A, A VAPE PLACE THAT IS GOING IN VERY CLOSE TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO, UM, THERE IS A, INTO THE LOCAL LAW, WE'VE BUILT IN, UH, LINEAR FOOT SEPARATION, UH, FROM SCHOOLS.
UM, I THINK, MATTHEW, DO YOU RECALL, IS THAT 500 FEET OR A THOUSAND FEET? 500 FEET.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE VAPE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A SEPARATION THAT THE STATE MANDATES, BUT, UM, WITHIN X AMOUNT OF FEET, YOU CANNOT HAVE CONSPICUOUS SIGNAGE.
SO, UM, I THINK AT THAT POINT WE'RE, THAT'S THE, THE, THE BEST REGULATION THAT CAN BE, UH, ENFORCED.
GARRETT, ARE THERE RESTRICTIONS ON, UM, DISTANCE FROM, FROM LIKE A LIQUOR STORE TO A SCHOOL? I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THERE WERE, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
I THOUGHT THERE WERE, I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT, GARRETT.
I WAS GONNA SAY, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN RAISED BY THIS, IT IS NOT JUST THE, THE MARIJUANA GROW SITUATION HAS RAISED THE ISSUE THAT IT'S REALLY AN ISSUE FOR ANYTHING THAT GOES INTO OUR WHITE INDUSTRIAL PARK AREA THAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT.
WHAT IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON US AS A TOWN, WHETHER IT'S THE EXHAUST FROM THE FACILITY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? THERE SEEMS TO BE LIKE WE CAN'T OUTLAW EVERYTHING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT STUFF SHOULD BE EQUITY DISTRIBUTED AMONG ALL COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE.
UM, BUT THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS THAT BEING A GOOD CITIZEN, CORPORATE CITIZEN, WHICH MANY CORPORATIONS ARE MUCH LIKE BEING A GOOD PERSONAL CITIZEN, WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS WE DO WITHIN OUR OWN HOUSEHOLDS WHERE WE TRY TO BE A LITTLE BIT GREENER.
YOU KNOW, FOR SOME PEOPLE IT MAY JUST BE BEING REALLY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT RECYCLING FOR OTHER PEOPLE, THEY MAY HAVE PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR HOUSE.
BUT THE POINT IS, THERE IS A POINT WHERE YOU SAY EVERYONE HAS TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.
AND FOR CORPORATE BUSINESSES IN THE TOWN, WE SORT OF HAVE TO BE COMING UP WITH A STANDARD THAT SAYS, IF YOU'RE COMING IN AS A AN INDUSTRY, YOU'RE ALLOWED THIS MUCH RESOURCES.
BUT IF YOU WANT THIS MUCH RESOURCES, YOU GOTTA FIND, FIND A GREEN WAY TO GET THEM.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COME UP WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO START TO THINK ABOUT AS A COMMUNITY, AS A CAC.
C AND I GUESS, OBVIOUSLY GARRETT SAID THE PLANNING PART DEPARTMENT IS THINKING ABOUT THIS.
I MEAN, MAYBE THERE IS A, A, A STANDARD MANDATE WITH, UM, LET'S JUST SAY THE DATA COMES IN AND THE ELECTRIC USE IS ABNORMALLY HIGH FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UM, USE.
UH, MAYBE THERE IS A SPECIAL PERMIT REQUIREMENT THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL, YOU KNOW, MAKE BEST FAITH EFFORTS TO OFFSET ENERGY USAGE.
AND, YOU KNOW, UH, DESCRIBE WAYS IN WHICH IT WILL DO SO, WHETHER THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, SOLAR, UM, ENERGY STORAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, VARIETY OF WAYS.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THE QUESTION WAS RAISED AND YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD I'M HERE TALKING ABOUT IT 'CAUSE IT'S GOT ME THINKING ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT, UM, OR, OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY ONE FACILITY ALLOWED PER, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
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FACILITY OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET PER DISTRICT.UM, BUT ONCE WE DO COME FORTH WITH THE, UH, PROJECTED ENERGY USAGES FROM THESE TYPES OF USES, UH, I THINK IT WILL INFORM OUR DISCUSSION AND WE'LL, WE'LL COMPARE THEM TO LIKE COCA-COLA, YOU KNOW, OR, OR, OR, AND, AND, AND SO WE, WE DO KNOW WHERE, WHERE IT STANDS AMONG OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES.
WELL, I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IS ONE THING WHEN SOMEONE WAS HERE ALREADY, IT'S CLEARLY THE GRANDFATHER THING WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE HERE BEFORE, SO YOU, YOU BUILT A PLANT BASED ON A, A SET OF PARAMETERS THAT ARE, THAT WERE IN PLACE AT THE TIME, BUT NOW WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE AND A DIFFERENT TIME.
AND I THINK WE JUST KINDA LOST NANCY TO SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT I, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK AT OUR LAST MEETING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND I THINK WE HAD ASKED NANCY, AND SHE'S BUSY WITH SOMETHING ELSE TO, AND I COULD BE WRONG ON THIS, BUT MY RECOLLECTION WAS TO TRY AND SEE IF SHE COULD FIND OUT SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY UPSTATE THAT WAS ACTUALLY CONCERNED BECAUSE IT WAS AN AREA WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF BITCOIN MINING GOING ON, AND THEY FELT THAT IT WAS PRODUCING THE POWER PLANT, I GUESS IS NOT THE, THE CLEANEST POWER PLANT IN THE AREA.
AND THEY FELT THE ENERGY RESOURCES OF THIS PARTICULAR INDUSTRY IN THE AREA WAS POLLUTING AIR BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A HIGH ELECTRICAL DEMAND IN THE AREA THAT WOULD NOT NORMALLY BE THERE.
SO THEREFORE THERE WOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH ELECTRICITY BEING PRODUCED AND THEREFORE THERE WOULDN'T BE THE POLLUTANTS FROM THE ELECTRIC POWER PLANT.
SO I THINK THERE'S, IT'S A, IT'S A PLACE, AS WE SAY, WE'RE ALL MOVING A NEW DIRECTION WITH THINGS, AND I THINK THIS IS THE KIND OF THING WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO DO A PIECE OF THIS? IT WAS NEVER CLEAR ON MY MIND WHEN THIS CAME BACK TO THE C A C, WHETHER WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ANYTHING WITH IT OR IT WAS JUST INFORMATIONAL.
UM, I THINK IT'S
BUT, UM, CERTAINLY, UH, IF YOU'RE INUNDATED WITH OTHER TOPICS, UM, AT A MINIMUM WE WILL SHARE WITH YOU ALL THE DATA THAT WE, UM, DIG UP FOR THE PLANNING BOARD AND, UM, WITH THAT DATA, IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT HELPS YOU TO, UH, MAKE SOME SORT OF SUSTAINABILITY BASED RECOMMENDATION, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE, THE, TO THE LOCAL LAW, WE'D BE ALL EARS.
UM, BUT IF SOMEONE'S INTRIGUED BY THE ISSUE AND WANTS TO DO, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH AS WELL,
UM, BUT IT IS A STAFF SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN CHARGED TO DO AND, UH, WE HAVE TO DO.
IT'S PART OF THE SECRET PROCESS.
SO, UH, WE'LL KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP, BUT, UH, I'M CERTAINLY NOT HERE TO, UH, DOLL OUT HOMEWORK.
IT'S REALLY, IF THE CAC FINDS IT, IT OF INTEREST, UM, BY ALL MEANS, UH, GO FOR IT.
BUT DEFINITELY NOT A, NOT A MANDATE FOR ME.
YEAH, MEANWHILE, ALL THESE SMOKE CON SLASH CONVENIENCE STORES ARE OPENING AND I WALKED THROUGH ONE, IT'S VERY FUNNY BECAUSE NOW WHERE I WORK OUT THERE, THERE'S FITNESS AND PHYSICAL THERAPY IS NEXT TO A SMOKE SHOP, AND NEXT TO THAT IS THE NEW PLASTIC SURGERY PLACE,
IT'S BECOME A LIFESTYLE SHOPPING CENTER.
AND I WALK THROUGH IT AND IT'S FULL, ALL IT IS IS SMOKING VAPING, UH, PARAPHERNALIA FOR MARIJUANA, AND THEN CIGARETTES ALSO.
AND IT, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THEY'RE NOT PREPARING GEARING UP, JUST HAVE MARIJUANA SOLD THERE TOO.
YEAH, IT'S A GOOD, GOOD POINT.
UM, I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, IT IS DISCOURAGING.
I, I I WOULD'VE HOPED THAT NEW YORK STATE IS IS ON ITS WAY TO, UM, DOING SOMETHING TO REGULATE THESE USES.
I MEAN, IT'S, I THINK
UM, BUT, UM, AS FAR AS IF SOMEONE THINKS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN UP A VAPE SHOP AND JUST HAVE THAT, UM, PARLAY INTO A, A, A RETAIL DISPENSARY OF CANNABIS, UM,
SO IF THERE'S A BUILT-IN ASSUMPTION THAT, OH, I HAVE A A VAPE SHOP AND I'M GONNA BE FIRST IN LINE TO GET A CANNABIS LICENSE, I, I'M CONFIDENT THAT THAT'S NOT HOW NEW YORK STATE'S DULLING OUT LICENSES.
IN FACT, IT'S, IT'S, COULD BE NOTHING, COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
AND I JUST KNOW LOCALLY, UM, DITTO THAT.
SO, UM, I AGREE WITH YOU ON EVERY LEVEL.
IT'S, IT'S DISCOURAGING, BUT IT'S THE MARKET ECONOMY.
AND I, UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THE FLAVOR OF THE DAY RIGHT NOW,
THEY'RE JUST POPPING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE, I THINK MORE THAN THEY'RE
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NECESSARY.MORE THAN OUR, WELL, I GUESS THEY ALWAYS, THAT'S ALWAYS THE THING.
SOMEONE'S BUYING IT, THEY'RE OFF.
NOW I WILL SAY THAT IF I COULD, JUST AS A PARENT, 24 AND A 21 YEAR OLD, UM, MY 21 YEAR OLD WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL WHEN JUUL DID THEIR UNDERCOVER EFFORT TO, UM, GET ALL THESE KIDS ADDICTED, WHICH MOST OF THEM ARE.
UM, AS A PARENT, I'M WAY MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE VAPE SHOPS THAN I AM ABOUT A DISPENSARY.
AND IT'S VERY TROUBLING TO ME THAT IT SEEMS THAT VAPE IS OPENING EVERYWHERE AND WE'RE PUTTING ALL THIS TIME AND ENERGY INTO REGULATING WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE DISPENSARIES.
BUT NOBODY'S DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE VAPE, WHICH IS MORE OF AN ISSUE IS AT LEAST WITH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE KIDS ARE PUTTING INTO THEIR LUNGS.
MARIJUANA AT LEAST, THEY HAVE EDIBLE OPTIONS.
SO THAT'S NOT GOING DIRECTLY INTO THE LUNG.
THE VAPE IS A BIGGER HEALTH ISSUE IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, WELL I THINK THE, THE ONE THING WITH THE MARIJUANA IS THAT NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE DO FINALLY DOING SOME TESTING ON IT, IT DOES SEEM TO AFFECT ADOLESCENT'S BRAINS, WHICH IS A REAL CONCERN.
BUT
UH, I THINK THE CONCERN WAS THAT, UM, NEW YORK STATE LAW PREEMPTS UH, LOCAL PROHIBITION OF VAPE.
UM, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY REVISIT THAT.
CAN WE IN SOME WAY, LIKE, JUST MAKE IT DIFFICULT? I MEAN, WE DON'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE DID WITH, WITH THE, UM, THE SEX SHOP, WE DIDN'T, COULDN'T OUTWARD IT, BUT WE CERTAINLY PUT IT IN THE MOST INCONVENIENT LOCATION AVAILABLE IN THE TOWN IN TERMS OF, WE DIDN'T SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE A SEX TOY SHOP.
WE JUST SAID YOU PRETTY MUCH CAN'T HAVE IT ANY PLACE EXCEPT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
YEAH, WE COULD POST A QUESTION TO GET TO, LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU POLL PARENTS OF KIDS IN JUNIOR HIGH AND MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE, I THINK YOU PARENTS WOULD, I'M CONFIDENT THAT PARENTS WOULD SAY THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT VAPE THAN MARIJUANA.
BUT THE VAPE IS A BIGGER ISSUE.
'CAUSE WITH MARIJUANA THEY HAVE OTHER OPTIONS.
THERE'S EDIBLES, THERE'S, IT'S MORE CONTROLLED, THERE'S MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE KIDS WILL GO UP TO MASSACHUSETTS AND THERE'S JUST A LOT MORE REGULATION AND WHAT THEY'RE BUYING AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO INHALE IT INTO THEIR LUNGS, NOT GONNA GET INTO THE ADVOCACY OF DRINKING VERSUS MARIJUANA.
IT'S JUST, FOR ME IT'S JUST ABOUT THE LUNGS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO THEIR HEALTH.
HEALTH AND THE NICOTINE ADDICTION.
THIS IS RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE, BUT I KNOW THAT LIZ SAID SHE MIGHT BE GOING TO, UH, TUNING IN ON SOMETHING WITH PESTICIDES.
WERE YOU ABLE TO, OR IS THAT STILL UPCOMING? THEY CANCELED IT, IT WAS CANCELED, BUT PENN STATE IS DOING SOMETHING NEXT WEEK, SO I'M GOING TO, THAT I THINK WILL BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN.
SO I WILL, I'M SIGNING UP FOR THAT.
BECAUSE I THINK THE THING WITH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, IF WE START NOW, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING FOR NEXT SPRING THAT REALLY IS EFFECTIVE AND GOES AFTER BOTH THE, THE, THE SPRAYING OF BUSHES, LAWNS OR WHATEVER.
BUT THERE'S JUST THIS EXCESSIVE USE OF PESTICIDES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY SAY THEY'RE ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE AND WHATNOT, PESTICIDE IS PESTICIDES,
AND, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT'S, PEOPLE DON'T STOP TO THINK THAT MY KID IS GOING OUTSIDE AND PLAYING ON THIS OR, BUT I, BUT I PERSONALLY AM WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND POSSIBLY ARE BREATHING IT AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? 'CAUSE I KNOW THE MEETING IS RUNNING LONG THAT ANYONE WANTS COVERED.
I JUST WANNA QUICKLY, UH, THANK, UH, ACTUALLY LIZ, UM, OUR CHEVY BOLT WAS DROPPED OFF, UH, YESTERDAY AND UH, THIS MADE US AWARE OF A NYSERDA INCENTIVE AND UH, AND MAYBE EVEN AS IMPORTANT, GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR IT, THE GRID REWARDS.
SO, UM, ULTIMATELY AS A RESULT OF THAT, THAT WAS A $15,000 GRANT FROM NO MATCH GRANT FROM NYSERDA.
WE COMBINED THAT WITH SOME OTHER PROACTIVE STEPS.
WE TOOK, UH, TO GET ANOTHER 15,000, UH, DOLLARS GRANT.
SO I THINK THE BOLT COST US, I DON'T KNOW, MATT, WAS IT LIKE $80 OR $200? IT'S 30,000 AND LIKE $400.
SO WE GOT A $400, UH, BOLT THAT'S GONNA REPLACE, UH, AN OLD, UH, GAS GUZZLING VEHICLE IN THE FLEET, WHICH WILL BE RETIRED.
HOPEFULLY THE ENERGY SMART HOMES WILL YIELD ANOTHER 15.
I'M FEELING A LITTLE MORE OPTIMISTIC AFTER SEEING SOME PAPERWORK THAT JUST CAME IN, BUT WE'LL SEE.
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OH, IS THE MEETING OVER? I.