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WORK SESSION IS JULY 12TH AT, UM, 5:00 PM AND, UM, WE ARE GOING TO LIMIT EVERY TOPIC TO 10 MINUTES.SO AFTER 10 MINUTES, WE'RE JUST GONNA CUT IT OFF BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF ACTIVITY.
SO I'M SORRY IF I'M, UH, GONNA BE TOUGH, BUT IT'S THE JOB, RIGHT? GINA? SORRY? GINA
I'M, WHY YOU SAYING WHY SINGLE ME OUT? THAT'S OKAY.
TODAY'S, UH, JULY 12TH AT 5:00 PM FIRST TOPIC OF THE FOIL APPEAL.
I DON'T SEE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPELLANT.
AND SEE, SO HOW DO YOU WANNA PROCEED? I, I WILL JUST BRIEFLY SAY THAT, UM, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, UH, DENIED THE REQUEST.
UM, THEY PROVIDED THE FOIL APPLICATION AND THEY POINT THE PUBLIC OFFICER'S LAW SECTION 89 2 B THREE.
UM, I BELIEVE THIS WAS THE PROPER RESPONSE AND THAT THE APPLICATION SHOULD BE DENIED.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SAY ANYTHING? NOPE.
SO, UH, YOU'LL, UH, DRAFT AN OPINION.
FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE TOWN BOARD.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, IN TERMS OF THE MASK POLICY FOR THE BOARD MEETINGS, UH, THE COVID IS NOW INCREASING.
WE ACCEPT THEM INCREASING A LOT.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF, UM, WE WANT TO REQUIRE MASKS OR IF WE WANT TO SET A DIFFERENT POLICY FOR THE PUBLIC.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT
WELL, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I HAVE REQUIRED MASKS FOR THE INTERNS IN HERE.
I APPRECIATE WE HAVE, WE HAVE 45 STUDENTS AND, UM, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO WEAR A MASK WHILE THEY'RE INSIDE.
AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT EATING.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT OUT, IF THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE OUTSIDE, THEY CAN TAKE THEIR MASK OFF AND IN THE CAFETERIA.
SO, COULD WE SAY FOR TOMORROW'S MEETING, EVERYBODY HAS TO WEAR A MASK? IT'S FINE WITH ME.
SO, BUT ARE WE JUST DOING THAT FOR HERE IN TOWN HALL? ARE WE JUST DOING THAT FOR TOWN BOARD MEETINGS? HOW, HOW WIDELY IS THAT? HOW BROADLY IS THAT APPLICABLE? IS IT OTHER BUILDINGS? I MEAN, RIGHT.
THIS NOT, MY FEELING IS, IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
THE BOARD MEETINGS, PEOPLE ARE CONGREGATING AND THE, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES AND, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE WE COULD INITIALLY GIVE DEPARTMENT HEADS THE DISCRETION OF, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD FEELS THAT
WE CAN'T HAVE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE BUILDING SOMEWHERE IN MASS AND WHAT SOME NOT.
THEN SOMEBODY WALKS INTO A DIFFERENT AREA.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THE BOARD WANT TO DO? I DON'T, I I WOULD SUPPORT REQUIRING MASKS BECAUSE I IS IT, BUT I, I THINK WE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE, WE, WE, WE WANT THE MASK, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW BROADLY WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
IS WE, ARE WE ONLY RESTRICTED TO HERE THE TOWN HALL? ARE WE DOING ACROSS THE TOWN? NO, IT WOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD.
THEN THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ACROSS.
WE CAN'T RESTRICT ONE PLACE NIGHT.
SO WANNA, AND NOT HAVE ACROSS ACROSS THE BOARD.
THE BOARD WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INDOORS? ANYTHING INDOORS IN ALL, ALL MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS.
ARE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR PRIVATE OFFICE, ALLOWED TO TAKE THEM OFF? WELL, IT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
WELL, THAT'S WORKED IN THE PAST THAT WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR PRIVATE OFFICE WITHOUT ANYONE ELSE NEARBY, THEY CAN TAKE THEIR MASKS OFF.
THAT DOESN'T MAYBE I AGREE WITH THAT.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD RENEW THE PAST POLICY THAT WAS IN PLACE.
DON'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING NEW.
JUST PUT THE OLD POLICY BACK INTO PLACE.
UM, SO WE'RE PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA.
AND I'LL POST SOMETHING TONIGHT BEFORE I LEAVE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP.
UM, ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA? SO THE LEAD BLOWER IS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY MENTIONED, AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE TWO DAYS? NO, NO LEAF BLOWERS.
IF IT WAS ON WEEKENDS INSTEAD OF, UM, YOU KNOW, TUESDAY AND THURSDAY.
AND I'M WONDERING, I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
WE ALREADY TELL YOU CAN'T HAVE NO LEAF BLOWERS ON THE WEEKENDS.
NO, THAT'S, THAT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION.
OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE LANDSCAPERS.
I STILL DUNNO HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST MAKING STUFF UP AS WE GO ALONG.
IT WAS, FIRST IT WAS MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY AND THUR FRIDAY, AND THEN IT WAS TUESDAY AND THURSDAY, THEN IT WAS DIFFERENT HOURS.
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I'M NOT SURE.I, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING SOME ROLLOUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT ONE DAY A WEEK WOULD BE A, A GOOD START TO IT, PARTICULARLY SINCE WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH THE SEASON.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ENFORCEMENT.
LIKE PEOPLE THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ENFORCEMENT.
OH, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT FOR THE FIRST YEAR, FOR THIS YEAR, THAT WE MAKE IT A TWO YEAR BILL INSTEAD OF A ONE YEAR.
UH, SEE NOW WE'RE CHANGING THE, AND I'M BASICALLY SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE, UH, THE FIRST YEAR WOULD BE WARNINGS.
THIS YEAR WOULD BE ONLY WARNINGS.
AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE WOULD DO THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE TWO DAY RULE FEE GO WITH TWO DAYS.
SO THIS YEAR IT WOULD BE JUST EDUCATION.
'CAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY ENOUGH TIME.
BUT WHAT'S THE EDUCATION? SO YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA ENFORCE IT? NO, WE WOULD GET SO, WE'LL, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, WHAT, WHAT WILL BE THE, WE WOULD GIVE A WARNING TO PEOPLE SAYING THE TOWN BOARD PASSED THE LAW.
AND, UH, ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, YOU CAN'T USE LEAF BLOWERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR WE'LL START ENFORCING IT.
NEXT, START NEXT YEAR WE'LL START RIGHT.
AND IF YOU HAVE A LANDSCAPE WHERE PLEASE, UH, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS.
SO THEY SHOULD DO IT ON OTHER DAYS.
THEY HAVE FIVE OTHER DAYS THAT THEY COULD COME.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE HEARING TOMORROW.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I, I THINK OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE HEARING ON BECAUSE WE CAN'T, WE KEEP
I CAN'T
I SAW ANOTHER ONE THAT WE AGREED EXPIRED UPON IN OCTOBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THOUGHT THE LAST ONE WE CALLED.
SO YES, THE WORDING IN THE LEGISLATIVE FINDING SAYS THAT IT WILL BE LIMITED THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH, 2022.
BUT EVEN IF WE MADE THAT CHANGE, THEN THERE'S STILL AN EXPIRATION CLAUSE RIGHT AT THE END.
SO WE JUST CHANGE IT, MAKE IT 20 END OF 23 IF WE AGREE.
THERE'S A REASON WHY THIS HASN'T BEEN PASSED IN DECADES.
SO WHAT'S THE SOLUTION? A TWO YEAR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER VERSION COME OUT AND THEN YEAH, IT'S GONNA CHANGE AGAIN.
SO, SO WHAT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING ON TOMORROW'S? 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT THE VERSION BEFORE THE RIGHT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN ON WHAT VERSION THOUGH? I, I WOULD'VE LIKED IT IF IT WOULD BE, BUT THIS IS THE VERSION THAT'S, I'M SORRY.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT THIS IS THE VERSION THAT'S CURRENTLY ONLINE.
IS THE ONE THAT PEOPLE WILL COME AND TALK ABOUT THE 2020.
SO THEN THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM.
WE CAN'T CHANGE IT, MR. RIGHT.
BUT DURING THE HEARING, IF YOU MAKE THOSE SUGGESTIONS, THEY'LL BE IN THE RECORD AND WE CAN CONSIDER THEM FOR OUR FINAL EXACTLY.
UH, UH, GARRETT, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE DSS DISTRICT? YEAH, SURE.
ONE DISCUSSION A LITTLE LATER ON.
WELL JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
YEAH, NO, I'LL, UH, FOR THE DISCUSSION LATER ON WITH REGARD TO THE HOUSING AND THE SUSTAINABILITY, A PLANNING BOARD MEMBER IS AVAILABLE, IS THAT TO BE A TOM BOARD ONLY DISCUSSION, OR DID YOU WANT ME TO SEND A ZOOM LINK? WELL, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, WE HAVE 10 MINUTES PER TOPIC, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TIME TO ACTUALLY ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION.
WITH REGARD TO THE DSS DISTRICT, UM, SO WE HAD A, A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE LAST TOWN BOARD MEETING, AND THAT PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
UH, FOLLOWING THE, THE CLOSE OF THE WRITTEN RECORD THERE, WE DID RECEIVE, UH, COMMENTS, UM, SOME IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL AND SOME WITH A CRITICAL EYE TOWARDS THE PROPOSAL.
UM, SO, UH, SINCE, SO FOR THE LOCAL LAW THAT WAS POSTED, I DID MAKE SOME CHANGES.
UH, MS. PRIZER, UH, SENT IN SOME COMMENTS.
I SPOKE WITH HER ON THE PHONE.
UM, AFTER REVIEWING HER, HER, HER SUGGESTIONS, SEVERAL OF THOSE SUGGESTIONS, UM, WERE, YOU KNOW, VERY CUT AND DRY AND, AND CLEARLY, UH, NE QUITE FRANKLY, NECESSARY, UH, FOR THE LOCAL LAW TO BE, UH, PROPER AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE WRONG CITATIONS AND SO ON.
UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT, UM, I SPOKE WITH, WITH MS. PRIZER AND DISCUSSED, UH, THE RATIONALE FOR EITHER MAKING THOSE CHANGES OR NOT.
UM, IN INSTANCES WHERE, UH, I EXPLAINED THAT THERE WAS NOT A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE LOCAL LAW, IT WASN'T THAT I HAD A DISAGREEANCE, UH, DISAGREEMENT WITH, WITH MS. PRIZER, IT WAS MORE SO THAT, UM, THOSE TYPE OF CHANGES.
THERE ARE SEVERAL CHANGES SHE RECOMMENDS THAT WOULD PERMEATE THROUGHOUT THE CODE AND, YOU KNOW, ASPIRE FOR CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE CODE.
AND I DO THINK THERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE TIME
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TO ADDRESS THAT.THE TIME IS NOT NOW AS PART OF THIS DSS DISTRICT.
UM, SHE MADE THE POINT THAT, UM, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO REMOVE, UH, 120,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR CABARET IN THE DSS.
THAT WAS A, A RECOMMENDATION PLANNING BOARD, UM, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CA, WHICH HAS NO LAND REQUIREMENT SIZE.
SO I'M NOT IN A POSITION RIGHT NOW TO COME TO THE BOARD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE 20 SHOULD COME OUT.
THERE SHOULD BE NO MAN REQUIREMENT, OR ONE 20 SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE CA.
MAYBE IT'S 60,000 SQUARE FEET.
I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THIS IS NOT THE FORM TO KIND OF MAKE A QUICK CHANGE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO I TRY TO AVOID ANY ABRUPT CHANGES LIKE THAT.
UM, SHE DOES INDICATE THAT, UH, SHE WOULD ADVOCATE FOR A MORE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, UPDATE TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AT SOME TIME.
UH, WE'LL REMIND THE BOARD THAT AROUND 2008, UH, THERE WAS A ZONING ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, THEIR WORK WAS HALTED, UH, AT ONE POINT BECAUSE THE IDEA WAS LET'S ADOPT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN REVISIT IT.
UM, ZORK WAS NEVER REVISITED, BUT THERE ARE GOOD NOTES.
UM, I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO REVIEW THOSE NOTES AND, UM, THINK ABOUT MAYBE MORE SWEEPING, UH, CHANGES, UH, TO THE, TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT INVOLVE A CONSULTANT.
UM, MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO UNDERTAKE.
SO IT MIGHT GO THE R F P ROUTE.
UM, BUT I'LL COME WITH TO YOU WITH THAT IN A LATER DATE.
BUT LONG STORY SHORT, UM, I PREPARED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE PROPOSED DSS CHANGES, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, INDICATES, UM, THE, THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSED.
UM, PREPARED RESOLUTIONS, UH, SUPPORTING THE ZONING MAP CHANGE, UH, AND APPROVING THE ZONING MAP CHANGE WITH DSS, UH, APPROVING THE LOCAL LAW ASSOCIATED WITH THE DSS.
SO THERE'S THREE RESOLUTIONS, UM, ON THE DOCKET TOMORROW FOR YOUR VOTE AS CONSIDERATION OF A VOTE.
UM, FOR SIMILAR REASONS DURING MY PRESENTATION, I FEEL LIKE THESE ARE, UM, THE RIGHT MOVES TO MAKE FOR THE DSS DISTRICT.
I THINK, UM, YOU'RE BRINGING A LOT OF GOOD USES THAT WILL MINIMIZE VACANCIES.
AND, UM, I THINK WE HAVE GOOD PROCESSES HERE VIA SPECIAL PERMIT SITE PLAN AND, UH, THE WAY WE CARRY OUT SEEKER TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF GOOD NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN.
UM, AND WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB? YES.
SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB IS ON FOR A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THE ONE MINUTE VERSION.
UM, SO THEY, THEY WILL BRIEF YOU ON THAT AS FAR AS, UH, THEY DID SOME OUTREACH TO OTHER GOLF COURSES REGARDING THE SAFETY NETTING, UM, THE, THE, THE SAFETY LEVEL OF THE NETTING THAT THEY PROPOSE.
UM, CLEARLY THERE'S GONNA BE SOME RESIDENT INPUT.
UM, WE'VE GOTTEN A HANDFUL OF EMAILS FROM, UH, MEMBERS OF THE CLUB, UH, THAT ADVOCATE FOR THE PROJECT.
UH, I THINK SOME RESIDENTS FROM SOME OF THE MULTI-FAMILY, UH, WE'LL AGAIN, COME OUT AND WE'LL HEAR THOSE COMMENTS.
UM, BUT YES, THAT IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING ON FOR TOMORROW.
UM, THE VIDEO CONFERENCING, UM, THE QUESTION I HAD IS IF SOMEBODY HAS COMORBIDITIES, UM, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I SPOKE TO SOMEBODY WHO'S ON A BOARD AND THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO ATTEND THE MEETING.
AND IN PER IN PERSON, YOU KNOW WHAT? ALRIGHT.
SO THE WAY THE, THE GOVERNORS, UM, WE DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S GONNA EXTEND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER YET.
WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE WEEK.
UM, BUT IF WE WERE TO ADOPT VIDEO CONFERENCE, UM, FOR OURSELVES, THEN WE MUST MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC REGARDLESS OF THEIR NEED.
IN OTHER WORDS, SO IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE VIDEO CONFERENCING AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF CALLING IN REMOTELY, THEN THE PUBLIC HAS TO BE GIVEN THE SAME OPPORTUNITY.
BUT BASICALLY, WHAT TYPE OF OPTIONS DO PEOPLE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE? IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY FEELS, I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM.
AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE QUORUM, QUORUM IN PLACE, SOMEONE FOR GOOD REASON CAN BE REMOTE.
BUT AS LONG AS THAT THERE'S A QUORUM TOGETHER IN, AND THAT'S ALL THE STATE LAW.
UH, HOWEVER, ONE OF YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM IN PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE FACILITIES.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN ONE PLACE, BUT COMMONLY IT'S IN ONE PLACE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A BOARD MEMBER WHO DOESN'T MIND SAYING, I CAN'T GET THE TOWN HALL, I CAN'T, I DON'T MIND YOU COMING TO MY HOUSE, BUT I HAVE TO DO THIS BY ZOOM, THEN THEY COULD COUNT THE, THE QUORUM AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
REALLY, I, I THOUGHT DIFFERENTLY.
I THOUGHT THAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE AND YOU HAVE TO NOTICE IT, YOU TO IN PLACE, TOWN HALL, WHEREVER THAT YOU HAD QUORUM
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CHECK.THAT'S ALMOST LIKE, AND THEN, AND, AND OTHER MEMBERS.
SO AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THREE, TWO OF US IN THIS INSTANCE, TWO OF US COULD, LEMME LEMME CHECK WHAT THE, WHAT WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED.
BUT IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO ATTEND A TOWN BOARD MEETING AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEIR HOUSE PUBLIC, THAT DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE.
WELL, IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE COVID, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE MEETING.
BUT LISTEN, IF YOU WANT TO COME OVER, I'LL CHECK.
I'M LOOKING AT OUR PROPOSED LAW AND IT SAYS LOCATIONS AT WHICH THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND THE MEETING.
IN TERMS OF, UH, THE, THE ONE WAY ON ROBIN HILL AND, UH, JOY, UH, WE HAVE NICK REON FOR THIS.
WE'VE GOTTEN LIKE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU'VE ALL GOTTEN EMAILS.
THAT'S, BUT WE, WE SPECIFICALLY STOOD OUT ON THE STREET AND WE WERE GOING TO HEAR HIS DATA, MAKE HIS DATA AVAILABLE AT A PUBLIC MEETING AND THEN MAKE OUR DECISION, WHICH IS WHY WE DIDN'T POST A RESOLUTION YET.
HE SAID AT THE LAST MEETING THAT HE, HE HAD DATA.
NO, THE LAST MEETING, HE SAID, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHY WE EXTENDED IT, IS HE DIDN'T HAVE CHANCE YET TO REALLY LOOK AT THE DATA.
BUT HE HAD, HE JUST HAD OH, HE HAD IT ISSUE.
IS IS, IS HE, WHAT'S THAT? DO YOU HAVE HIS PHONE NUMBER? I DO.
WE'RE AT THE TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.
UH, DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THE ONE WAY AND DATA AND IF SO, ARE YOU IN ANYWHERE WHERE YOU COULD SIGN ON TO ZOOM OR COME OVER OR ONE OF THE, OH, I'M SORRY.
I WAS, UH, I'M AWAY ON VACATION.
SO HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? WAY BACK FROM LAKE GEORGE
YEAH, WHATEVER YOU CAN SHARE THE DATA, YOU CAN SHARE WITH US.
WILL YOU BE BACK FOR TOMORROW NIGHT? TOMORROW? I'M WORKING TOMORROW NIGHT, YES.
MAYBE YOU COULD COME, WHY DON'T MAKE A PRESENT PRESENTATION.
YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO MAKE A
LET'S, LET'S FIND OUT HIS RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT GIVING A LEADING QUESTION.
WELL, I MEAN, IF HE'S GONNA COME TOMORROW, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THOUGH.
I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE TWO VERSIONS.
WELL, HE COULD JUST GET, BUT IF HE COULD AT LEAST TELL US WHAT HE'S JUST AVAILABLE TO PRESENT HIS, TO PRESENT HIS FINDINGS.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE A VOTE OR WE CAN TABLE A VOTE UNTIL SOME OTHER TIME IT CAN EXPIRES ON FRIDAY.
WELL ABLE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO WHY DON'T WE HAVE HIM DO SPOILER ALERT.
THE TEST RESULTS ARE STILL THE SAME.
AND WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR CONCLUSION? UH, THAT THE SPEED AND VOLUME, THE, THE VOLUME FOR MOUNT JOY WAS REDUCED AND THE SPEED WAS REDUCED FROM MOUNT JOY.
YOU KNOW, MARGINALLY, UM, THE VOLUME WAS SLIGHTLY, IT WAS REDUCED FOR ROBIN HILL, I WANNA SAY.
AND THE SPEED WENT UP LIKE ONE MILE PER HOUR, BUT STILL BOTH BELOW THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.
UM, HENRY STREET DID SEE AN INCREASE IN VOLUME, UM, BUT THE SPEED REMAINED THE SAME.
SO THAT'S THE SAME DATA THAT WE'VE HAD.
IT'S THE SAME, SAME, SAME SET OF DATA.
SO YOU WANTED SOME TIME TO ACTUALLY DIGEST IT? HAVE YOU DIGESTED IT? YEAH, AND I SHARED IT.
I SHARED IT WITH THE RESIDENTS.
SO THEY, UH, VICKI ADLER WAS ONE OF THE RESIDENTS AND I SHARED, UM, ALL THE SETS OF DATA WITH, WITH EVERYONE.
SO I THINK IT WAS, UM, THE RESIDENTS WHO WERE KIND OF REVIEWING IT, BUT WE SAW, WE PREPARED THE CHART THAT I SHARED WITH YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS SAW THAT.
SO THAT'S, UH, THE SAME, SAME DATA.
UM, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS NOW IT'S THE ENGINEERING GROUP IS WORKING ON A PLAN FOR SPEED TABLES AND FOR SPEED HUMPS RATHER.
FOR HENRY STREET HUMPS OR BUMPS, UH, HUMPS, NOT BUMPS.
AND SO ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH, UH, CONTINUING THE ONE WAY? YES.
SO, AND THEN TOMORROW NIGHT YOU CAN COME AND EXPLAIN WHY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION, PAUL, THAT KRISTA OR SOMEBODY OR EVEN ONE OF THE INTERNS GOES THROUGH THE LETTERS FOR AND AGAINST AND CALLS FOR AND AGAINST, AND YOU JUST HAVE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A TANGIBLE FOR NUMBER AND A TANGIBLE AGAINST NUMBER.
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THAT YEAH, I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.'CAUSE THEN IT BECOMES A POPULARITY CONTEST.
THIS IS REALLY A, A SAFETY ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO PEOPLE EVERY FEW DAYS FOR THE PAST TWO MONTHS, LIKE BIKE THERE AND, UM, UM, AND ALMOST EVERYONE I'VE SPOKEN TO LIKES IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE ARE GIVING ME THUMBS UP.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BASICALLY THANKING, THEY'RE SAYING THEY FEEL SAFER THAN THEY EVER, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE CRITICAL, BUT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS REALLY, REALLY LIKE IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A, IT'S RIGHT NOW, IF WE MAKE IT PERMANENT, THEN WE COULD WORK ON THE SIDEWALK.
THEY'RE GONNA, UH, UH, UH, UH, SERGEANT REON AND RICH FOND, THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING BIKE LIKE A BIKE PEDESTRIAN.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT THEY COULD DO TO MAKE, DO WE STILL NEED NICK OR CAN WE LET HIM GET BACK TO HIS FAMILY VACATION?
OH, I'M READY TO NICK, JUST NICK, JUST SAY YOU CAN'T HEAR US AND YOU CAN GET OFF THE PHONE.
WELL, ENJOY REALITY WEIGHT AWAITS YOU WHEN YOU GET BACK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RELYING ON WHAT YOU SAY YOU'VE HEARD RATHER THAN HAVING SOMETHING QUANTIFIABLE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF POPULAR, IT'S EITHER A POPULARITY CONTEST OR, BECAUSE THERE DIDN'T SOUND LIKE THERE WAS A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT NICK TOLD US.
SO I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY OF QUANTIFYING SO THAT IT, IT, YOU KNOW, TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE RESIDENTS FELT.
THIS IS NOT ONLY ABOUT YEAH, TRA IT IS NOT ONLY ABOUT THE SPEEDING, IT'S ALSO ABOUT IN THE MORNING, UM, KIDS BEING ABLE TO WALK YOU TO SCHOOL FEELING, YOU KNOW, UH, MORE SAFE.
BECAUSE THE ROAD NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SAFER FOR CHILDREN TO WALK.
SO, BUT HOW IS IT SAFER IF IN FACT, THE OTHER THAN YOU DON'T HAVE CARS GOING BOTH WAYS, WHICH MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
THAT'S REALLY BIG THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT IS BIG.
I REMEMBER LEAVING THAT SITE, UH, VISIT THAT WE MADE, AND I SAW FIRSTHAND HOW I WAS GOING IN ONE DIRECTION.
ANOTHER CAR APPROACHED THE, UH, THE OTHER DIRECTION.
THEN THERE WERE PEOPLE WALKING IN THE STREET AND THEY HAD TO, AS, AS SLOW AS I WENT, AND I BASICALLY CAME TO A STOP.
THEY ACTUALLY, THERE WAS NO SPACE BETWEEN US TO GO MM-HMM.
AND WHAT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE LEVEL, LEVEL GROUND, BUT THE WHOLE REASON OF DOING A SURVEY AND HAVING THE RESIDENTS WEIGH IN.
BUT I WOULDN'T WANNA JUST COUNT.
IS THE DECISION YOU'RE CONTEMPLATING, UH, PERMANENT OR JUST, UH, AN EXTENSION FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS OR SOME OTHER DURATION? NO PERMANENT.
UNLESS THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, IF WE FIND THAT THERE'S A REASON NOT TO, MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE TO DO, UM, CALL IT SEMI-PERMANENT, BUT LIKE SIX MONTHS SO THAT YOU CATCH SOME SCHOOL YEAR IN THERE AND, AND HAVE THAT DATA AS WELL.
WELL, WE DID CATCH, THE ONLY REASON THAT I ALWAYS DISAGREE WITH THAT.
WE ONLY GOT THE 30 DAYS THOUGH.
YEAH, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, NICK, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS, THEY WANT TO DO ADDITIONAL THINGS TO MAKE A SAFE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, HER PERMANENT UPDATE.
WE COULD BASICALLY PUT THE SIDEWALK ON ROBIN HILL, UH, THIS SUMMER, UH, BEFORE THE SCHOOL STARTS.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SORT OF WAITING TO SEE WHAT, UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
UM, SO I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW NICK TO YEAH.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, JUST THERE'S ONE MORE THING ON THE AGENDA REVIEW.
UH, RICH AND BRIAN, THEY'RE COMING IN ON ZOOM.
SO WE HAVE A $17 MILLION PROJECT ON THE AGENDA.
AND DO YOU WANNA GIVE A, THE SHORT VERSION OF EITHER ONE OF YOU AS TO WHY THAT'S NEEDED AND WHAT THE, UH, WATER ADVISORY, UH, BOARD, UH, STATED.
YOU WANNA HANDLE IT, BRIAN, RIGHT OR WRONG? UH, YEAH, I COULD, I CAN HANDLE IT.
SO, UH, IN SHORT, UH, THE TOWN'S, UH, TOWN CONSOLIDATED AWARD NUMBER ONE HAS BEEN ADVISED THAT THE NEW YORK CITY D E P IS GOING TO BE CEASING CHLORINATION BEGINNING, UH, UH, THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AS PART OF THAT, THE TOWN IS REQUIRED TO IMPROVE OUR, UM, OUR CHLORINATION PROCESS.
SO BASICALLY WE HAVE TO INSTALL A NEW CHEMICAL FEED STATION AND A CONTACT TANK.
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IN JUNE.UH, THE BIDS CAME IN HIGHER THAN WE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED, UH, UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO, YOU KNOW, INFLATION DUE TO, UM, LABOR SHORTAGES.
AND IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE INDUSTRY HAS SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH WITH OUR TOWN WATER ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL THAT WE HAVE HAS ALSO RECOMMENDED THEY'VE REVIEWED THE BIDS AND THEY RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, AWARDING THE FOUR LOWEST, UH, RESPECTIVE BIDDERS.
SO, DO WE HAVE A CHOICE? UH, WE HAVE A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE.
SO THE, THE D E P IS GONNA BE CEASING, CHLORINATION, LIKE I SAID, AT END OF THE YEAR.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE UP AGAINST A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK OUT TO BID, BUT IF WE DID, THAT WOULD DELAY THE PROJECT BY MONTHS.
UM, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY CAN DELAY 'CAUSE WE'RE ALREADY ON A VERY TIGHT SCHEDULE TO BEGIN WITH.
WE'D BE PENALIZED IF WE DELAY IT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THE, UH, I'LL READ IT FROM ANDY'S MEMO, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO.
ISN'T THAT, DON'T THAT THEY, THEY, THEY GIVE OUT THE, UH, BOIL WATER NOTICE, RIGHT? YEAH.
THEY SAY THAT A PUBLIC HAZARD MM-HMM.
SHOULD WE NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THIS DEADLINE? THE TOWNS WATER SUPPLY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION.
THE SAFE, UH, SAFE DRINKING WATER ACT AND THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SANITARY CO PART FIVE, SUBPART FIVE DASH ONE FOR THE PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM, SECTION FIVE DASH 1.30.
PROVIDING TREATMENT FOR PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM, THIS VIOLATION IS DEEMED A PUBLIC HEALTH HAZARD AND A BOIL WATER ADVISORY BE ISSUED TO THE ENTIRE WATER SYSTEM EVERY DAY.
THE SYSTEM REMAINS IN VIOLATION.
THIS TYPE OF VIOLATION IS CONSIDERED A TIER ONE VIOLATION DUE TO THE THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH.
AND TIER ONE VIOLATIONS REQUIRE, THE PUBLIC IS NOTIFIED WITHIN 24 HOURS OF THE VIOLATION TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC IN 24 HOURS TO BOIL WATER ADVISORY AND PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT WOULD'VE TO BE BROADCAST IN TELEVISION, RADIO AND PUBLIC PUBLISHED IN NEW NEWSPAPERS.
THIS NOTIFICATION WOULD NEED TO BE DONE EVERY DAY.
THE SYSTEM REMAINS A VIOLATION.
THESE ARE NOT SHORT TERM CONSEQUENCES.
SHOULD THE VIOLATION NOT BE CORRECTED, THE TIME WILL BE FINE BY THIS NEAR STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A DAY AND MAY REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT OTHER TREATMENT TECHNIQUES AT THE, THE COST THAT WOULD FAR EXCEED THIS PROJECT.
UM, SO I THINK, UH, IT'S WITHOUT QUESTION THAT THIS HAS TO GET DONE ALL, SO LET ME SHOULD KNOW THAT THE WATER IS NOT IN ANY WAY IN ANY VIOLATION.
RIGHT? UH, AND SO LET'S EMPHASIZE THAT BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY TUNES IN, THEY'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT VIOLATIONS.
THE TOWN HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG.
NEW YORK CITY HAS CHANGED WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING TO TREAT THE WATER BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE TREATING IT.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO PICK UP THOSE COSTS.
AND THOSE COSTS ARE WHAT WE ARE NOW, UM, HAVING TO SPEND OR, OR TO, UM, TO REMEDY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE DEADLINE THAT THEY HAVE FOR THIS IS JANUARY 1ST.
THERE'S AN EMPLOYEE'S, UM, UH, SHORTAGE.
UM, THE COSTS HAVE SKYROCKETED AND WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE THIS IS THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, UH, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE THAT NEW YORK CITY HAS, UM, UH, IS HAS IN HOW IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, TREATING OR NOT TREATING THE WATER.
WE'RE OVER, WE'RE OVER OUR TIME FOR AGENDA REVIEW.
I JUST DIDN'T WANNA LET $17 MILLION JUST PASS BY.
LEGISLATION RESTRICTING SALES, TOBACCO, ANYTHING.
I SENT EVERYBODY, UM, UH, PROPOSED, UH, YOU KNOW, FIRST DRAFT, UM, YOU KNOW, ORDINANCE.
UM, I, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, ELLEN HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD SEPARATE THE CANNABIS FROM THE, FROM THE, UH, PROPOSED DRAFT.
THE REASON I HAD INCLUDED THE CANNABIS AND THE FIRST DRIFT WAS BECAUSE I THINK THE PLANNING BOARD HAD RECOMMENDED, UH, THAT WE ALLOW CANNABIS ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
AND, UM, I, I FEEL THAT THE BOARD IN DECEMBER, WE ALL MAKE COMMITMENTS THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA ALLOW DISPENSARIES, UH, YOU KNOW, ON CENTRAL AVENUE AND ONE 19 AND, AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE IN SCHOOL AREAS.
SO I BASICALLY WANTED TO REASSURE OUR RESIDENTS, YOU
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KNOW, THROUGH, THROUGH THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT WE WERE KEEPING THE COMMITMENTS THAT THE BOARD BOARD MADE.BUT, UM, IF YOU KNOW THE LEGISL, WHEN YOU COME UP WITH THE FINAL VERSION, IF WE DO WHAT WE BASICALLY SAID AND PUT IT, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIAL AREAS, THEN, THEN THERE'S NO NEED FOR FOR THAT TO BE INCORPORATED.
AND, AND THE LAW, THE PROBLEM THAT, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, UM, ON CENTRAL AVENUE, UM, A FEW DAYS LAST WEEK, UH, UH, A NEW SMOKE SHOP HAD VERY, YOU PUT A LOT OF, LIKE ITEMS, PARAPHERNALIA.
PARAPHERNALIA AND ALSO KNIVES.
THE KNIVES ARE STILL, I THINK WE'RE STILL THERE IN THE WINDOW.
AND THE, THE SMOKING CAR THERE, JOE, PUT YOUR MIC, YOUR MIC IS OFF AND YOU NEED TO BRING IT CLOSER TO YOU.
UM, THEY WERE IN MOST LIKELY IN VIOLATION OF A STATE LAW THAT ALREADY EXISTS THAT, UH, SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA CANNOT BE DISPLAYED IN STORE WINDOWS WITHIN 1500 FEET OF A SCHOOL.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY CODIFY THAT WITHIN THE TOWN CODE AS WELL.
MY OFFICE IS DRAFTING A VERSION FOR, FOR YOUR REVIEW, AND I KNOW PAUL HAD SET THE VERSION AROUND TOO.
SO WE'RE TAKING SUGGESTIONS FROM THAT AND WE'RE DRAFTING IT NOW.
UM, I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE DOING RESEARCH AND PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND, UH, I, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO POLL AND WE'LL CIRCULATE THAT AGAIN SOON AND I'LL TAKE ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE ON THAT.
AND IF WE'RE WE'RE DOING, I JUST DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO CONFLATE THE, UM, THIS SALE OF, OF, UM, THE LEGAL SALE OF MARIJUANA AND, AND RESTRICTING IT WITH THE SALE OF WEAPONS BECAUSE THAT SOMEHOW IT'S, IT'S JUST THE, THE SUGGESTION THAT IT CRIMINALIZES THE ONES.
SO I FELT IF WE DO SOMETHING, THEN THEY SHOULD BE SEPARATE.
PEOPLE ARE JUST CONCERNED, LIKE ON EAST TAR STILL NEEDED, THE POLICE MADE SOME ARRESTS BECAUSE, UH, THEY WERE SELLING MAR YOU KNOW, MARIJUANA, CANNABIS LIKE IN THE BACK DOORS TOO.
I THINK MINORS, I THINK THERE WERE TWO ARRESTS IN PAST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS.
AND, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST ARE WORRIED THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GO IN THE BACK DOOR AND, AND BASICALLY, YEAH.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL ABOUT, THAT'S TO BE, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE EXPECTED TO SOME DEGREE UNTIL, YEAH.
UNTIL EVERYONE, UNTIL THIS IS REALLY ENFORCEABLE AND THEN THEY REALLY REALIZE HOW NONSENSE THAT GREENBERG WILL BE AND THAT WE ARE ENFORCING ALL THOSE.
SO I THINK THAT HAS TO BE EXPECTED.
SO, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A DR WELL, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO MEET WITH THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL, UM, MAYBE NEXT WEEK.
I THINK IF YOU WANNA HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, UM, WE COULD TAKE SOME FURTHER GUIDANCE.
I COULD, I COULD GET A DRAFT OUT SOMETIME NEXT WEEK FOR EVERYBODY.
SO THE QUESTION I HAD IS, WHAT IS THE ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS THE TOWN TO DO WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATION SAYS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY AND THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR THE COUNTY? SO I CALLED SOMEONE FROM THE STATE, AND I HAD A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION ON THAT.
THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY ARE NOT OPPOSED TO STRICTER LAWS.
YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THEM, UM, LESSEN EITHER THE AMOUNT OF FEET OR THE, OR THE PENALTIES.
SO WE HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TRYING TO COLLECT DATA AS TO WHAT THEY PUT IN THEIR LAWS AND WHO'S THE ENFORCING, UH, OFFICERS IN THAT.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THAT RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE A PARALEGAL WORKING ON THAT.
I HAVE A LAW STUDENT INTERN WORKING ON THAT.
UM, I'M CALLING PEOPLE AS WELL.
SO WE'RE COLLECTING THAT DATA NOW.
AND I BELIEVE THAT, UM, WE COULD PROBABLY PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT WILL COMPLY WITH THE STATE LAW, BUT ALSO BE AT THE TOWN LEVEL AS WELL.
UM, AND WHEN I HAVE THAT, UH, IN, IN WRITING, AND THEN I KNOW THAT THAT COULD BE DONE, I'LL SEND IT AROUND FOR YOUR REVIEW.
BUT WHO, WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT PUTTING IT IN WRITING, WHAT IS THE ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS A TOWN TO DO IT? IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE STATE SAYS THAT COUNTIES AND CITIES OF MORE THAN A MILLION PEOPLE THAT HAVE AN AGENCY THAT REGULATES THIS THING, MEANING NEW YORK CITY, UM, THEY CAN, THEY CAN REGULATE COUNTIES AND NEW YORK CITY OR OTHER, I GUESS, CITIES THAT ARE, UH, ONE IS WHY ISN'T IT BEING ENFORCED NOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS WITH THE STATE, WITH THE COUNTY HAVING THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, BUT IT CLEARLY SAYS THAT THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS A COUNTY PERSON, NOT A TOWN PERSON.
SO IF SOMEBODY'S TELLING YOU, YOU CAN MAKE IT STRICTER.
ALL I'M LOOKING FOR IS WHERE IS THAT WRITTEN THAT WE CAN
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GO STRICTER.I WILL MAKE THAT FOLLOW UP CALL BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT CLEAR CUT ANSWER TO THAT LAW.
UM, I KNOW YOU'LL NEED IT WHEN YOU RECEIVE ANY FIRST DRAFT FOR FURTHER REVIEW.
WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO GIVE, AND ALSO IN THAT, THAT LEGISLATION, IT TALKS ABOUT THE COUNTY CAN AFFECT THE LICENSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFECT THEIR LIFE LICENSE AS A LOCAL LEVEL.
IT'S WORTH A, A CALL THEN TO THE COUNTY.
AND SO I DON'T WANT US TO GO IN AND GIVE A VIOLATION AND THEN THE FIRST TIME WE GO TO COURT, COURT SAYS, COURT SAYS, YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS.
WELL, WE PASSED A LOCAL LAW BASED ON WHAT? MM-HMM.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE MASSAGE LAW THAT WE HAD? THAT'S A TOTALLY, LET'S NOT GO THERE.
NO, I'M JUST ASKING THE, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT GO THERE, PAUL.
WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE THE FOLLOW UP AND WE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION IF IT'S DOABLE.
AND THE MASSAGE WALL IS WORKING WELL, NO, IT IS WORKING WELL.
ARE WE, ARE WE DONE WITH THAT SUSTAINABLE QUESTION? WESTCHESTER? DAN, WE WE'RE ONLY TWO MINUTES BEHIND.
HOW ARE YOU? HOW'S IT GOING? GOOD.
DAN, YOU HAVE NINE MINUTES ON, 15
UM, YEAH, AND IF YOU CAN PULL IT A LITTLE CLOSER AND I, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE A BIG POWERPOINT OR ANYTHING 'CAUSE WE'VE PRETTY MUCH BEEN THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT I'LL JUST SORT OF UPDATE WHERE WE ARE.
YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST TWO, THREE WEEKS WE'VE BEEN GOING OUT IN FRONT OF THE 24 MUNICIPALITIES AND THEY'RE ALL SIGNED ON NOW TO THE NEW, UH, BIDDING.
M O U, UH, EXCEPT, UH, NICK, MY COLLEAGUE IS GOING TO SLEEPING HALL TONIGHT AND I'M IN RIOT TOMORROW.
SO THAT'S JUST BY WAY OF UPDATE.
WE WERE TARGETING A, UM, UH, THE BIDDING FOR FRIDAY.
WE MAY MAKE IT SLIP A COUPLE DAYS BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL STUFF AROUND DATA SUBMISSION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IT'S, IT'S COMING UP AND AS, UH, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO MAKE CLEAR, UM, YOU, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE M O U IN ORDER FOR THE, THE BIDDERS TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE BID AND SAY, OKAY, I'M GONNA INCLUDE YOU GUYS.
'CAUSE THERE'S THAT, THAT COMMITMENT IF I AM AWARDED, YOU KNOW.
SO, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE.
YOU, YOU, UH, HAVE THE, UM, UPDATED M O U IN HAND.
AND AS, UH, DESCRIBED LAST TIME, IT'S, UH, FOLLOWS THE FAME FORMAT.
EXCEPT ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IS THE, AS THE, UH, THAT PRICE NOT TO EXCEED CAP HAS BEEN REMOVED IN FAVOR OF, UH, UM, BEST RESPONSIVE, LOWEST RESPONSIVE BID.
UM, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE WHERE WE ARE AT THE MOMENT.
SO WE'RE HERE TO, I DON'T KNOW, JOE, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE NEW M I O I HAVE NOT.
HAVE YOU MET JOE? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
YEAH, I, I WILL REVIEW THAT THOUGH.
OKAY,
WE, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
SO ALL THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT WERE IN THE GROUP ARE STAYING IN THE GROUP, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T HAVE THE CAP.
UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION IS, I, I REVISE TOMORROW.
THEY ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH, SO WE FIND OUT WHERE THEY ARE AND SLEEPY HOLLOWS TONIGHT.
BUT YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
NO, NO INDICATION AT THIS POINT ANYWAY.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK.
IF IT'S TUESDAY, THEN, THEN I WOULD LOOK MAYBE TO PUSH THE BED TO WEDNESDAY.
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COULD GET THE SIGNED DOCUMENT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING ON, ON WEDNESDAY, IF YOU MAKE THE DECISION ON TUESDAY.WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS TO PUT THE DOCUMENTS UP ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW NIGHT SO THAT IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THEM, THEY CAN MAKE THEM.
BUT WE WOULDN'T VOTE UNTIL TUESDAY.
NEXT ON AGENDA, UM, UH, YOU SCHWARTZ, UH, AND WALTER SIMON ASKED, UH, TO MEET WITH US TO DISCUSS, UM, UM, CREATING LIKE A TASK FORCE THAT, UM, WOULD WORK ON, UH, SUSTAINABLE ENERGY AND, YOU KNOW, DRAFTING LAWS AND STRATEGIES ON AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, HOUSING.
AND THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
SHOULD WE SCHEDULE, SCHEDULE THEM? SURE, SURE.
BUT JUST LET'S NOT DO IT THE DAY BEFORE A TOWN BOARD MEETING.
SO MAYBE, WHICH IS NOT TOO HARD TO DO.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER TOWN BOARD MEETING UNTIL AUGUST 10TH, I THINK.
I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR HEAR, OR HAVE HUGH AND WALTER WITH REGARD TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HUGH AND WALTER TALK WITH COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON.
UM, WITH REGARD TO HER EFFORTS BEFORE WE TALK TO THEM AS A GROUP, SO THAT ANY SYNERGY THAT EXISTS BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND WHAT SHE'S DOING CAN BE THE TOPIC OF THAT MEETING RATHER THAN WILLY-NILLY.
BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE THAT WE MEET IN COURT.
I ALREADY, UH, I SAW THAT YOU SAW THAT YOU MENTIONED ME.
I SAW THAT A COUPLE TIMES STOOD YES, YOU HAVE.
SO YES, WE'LL SET SOMETHING UP WITH, WITH WALTER AND, AND YOU.
SO WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE GIVE THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS THEN? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF WE DO HAVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD INCLUDE THE COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN WORKING DURING THE PAST YEAR BECAUSE, UH, YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT THEM TO TALK.
UH, HAL, YOU HAVE, UH, WELL WAIT A MINUTE.
SO WITH REGARD TO, TO THE SUSTAINABLE ENERGY COMMITTEE, SINCE THAT'S A SEPARATE THING, RIGHT? RIGHT.
HOW DO WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT? WELL, WE, WE HAVE TO ARRANGE TO MEET WITH HIM.
WE'RE GONNA INVITE THEM TO, SO WHY DON'T WE GIVE HIM A COUPLE OF WEEKS JUST TRYING TO BE CLEAR SO THEY CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS.
SO WE, I'LL GET WITH, UM, MR. SIMON AND, UM, OKAY, MR.
SO HOW WE, YOU'LL BE NEXT WEEK.
WE'RE LIMITING EVERYTHING TODAY TO 10 MINUTES.
I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT AND WE'RE ON TIME.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALL, WE HAVE A VERY LONG EXECUTIVE SESSION.
YOU KNOW ABOUT NO, THANK YOU, JARED.
NONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ARE CONTROVERSIAL IN ANY WAY.
AND THEY HAVE TO DO WITH HOW THE TOWN BOARD IN RECENT YEARS HAS MOVED MORE AND MORE TOWARDS PREVENTING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM HAPPENING.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WANNA DISCUSS ARE VERY SIMPLE.
SOME OF THEM ARE A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX.
NONE OF THEM COST THE TOWN MUCH.
AND THE REALITY IS, DO YOU WANT TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC OR NOT? YOUR AGENDA SAYS YOU DO.
GREENBERG TOWN BOARD APPRECIATES COMMENTS FROM RESIDENTS THAT IT'S OPEN MEETINGS.
OUR GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN A ROBUST AND CONSTRUCTIVE DI DIALOGUE.
WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THIS TOWN CONTINUES TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS.
SO IT SEEMS PERFECTLY REASONABLE, THE THINGS THAT I'M PROPOSING YOU WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL.
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WHEN YOU PUT OUT AGENDAS TO YOUR MEETINGS AND YOU'RE GOING FORWARD WITH ZOOM, YOU CAN'T PUT ON THE AGENDA THAT THE MEETING IS AVAILABLE ON ZOOM AND THE CONTACT INFORMATION.
WHAT IF THEY GAVE A WAR AND NOBODY CAME? IS THAT THE IDEA? I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME, TIME I'VE BROUGHT ANY OF THESE THINGS TO YOUR ATTENTION.
ALSO, I WOULD LIKE THAT SINCE YOU HAVE DONE MEETINGS ON ZOOM, THAT THEY SHOULD APPEAR ARCHIVED ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, LIKE ALL THE OTHERS.
THAT MAY COME AS A SHOCK TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE HELD MEETINGS AND NEVER SUSPECTED THAT THEY WOULD BE SEEN BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AND YOU HAVE THESE MEETINGS ALREADY ON ZOOM, LET'S PROCEED TO MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
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BROADCAST MEETINGS, TOWN BOARD MEETINGS.NOW, APPARENTLY YOU STARTED ON TIME TODAY AND EVEN AHEAD, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THIS TOWN BOARD ARRANGES ITS OWN TIME FOR MEETINGS, TOWN BOARD MEETINGS TO START AND WORK SESSIONS TO START.
SO IT'S YOURSELVES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IF YOU SET A TIME, WHY YOU CAN'T START THE MEETING AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO SIT AROUND WAITING FOR YOU TO ATTEND YOUR OWN MEETING THAT YOU DECLARED WHEN IT STARTS.
AS WELL AS NOT ONLY THE PUBLIC, BUT PEOPLE WHO YOU CALL UPON AS CONSULTANTS OR WHATEVER BEFORE YOU AND TOWN EMPLOYEES HAVE TO SPEND THEIR TIME WAITING FOR THE MEETING TO START.
PUBLIC COMMENT IS VALUABLE TO THE TOWN BOARD.
YOU GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
YOU ALSO GET TO PROMOTE THAT YOU'RE AN OPEN GOVERNMENT BY LOOK.
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THE WAY THAT YOU GO ABOUT IT IS ALL WRONG.
WE USED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IN TWO SEC SEGMENTS OF REGULAR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, FIVE MINUTES TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, AND THREE MINUTES AT THE END.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE ELIMINATING THREE MINUTES AT THE END, BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM THAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWING THE FULL FIVE MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC TO MAKE COMMENT.
INSTEAD, IF YOU WANT THE TOWN BOARD TO ENGAGE IN THAT DIALOGUE, THAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT HAS TO COME FROM THE PUBLIC SACRIFICING THEIR FIVE MINUTES.
HOW MANY OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS, EITHER THE TOWN BOARD WHEN THEY INTRODUCED LEGISLATION OR THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE FOR PRESENTATIONS ARE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES.
SO WHY IS THE PUBLIC WHO, YOU KNOW, YOU WORK FOR US, THE PUBLIC, NOT FOR THE TOWN BOARD.
SO WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO STOP THE PUBLIC FROM EXPRESSING ITSELF IN THE MANNER AND GET A DIALOGUE ON TOP OF THAT ALL INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO.
AND DON'T GIVE ANY NOTICE OF THE MEETING.
NOW, THIS IS A BIG DEAL TO ME BECAUSE I CAN'T UNDERSTAND.
WE HAVE A WEBSITE WHICH RUNS FAIRLY EFFICIENTLY, AND ON THE WEBSITE IS A LIST OF ALL THE MEETINGS UNDER AGENDAS AND MEETINGS.
WHAT AN UNUSUAL PLACE FOR IT TO BE.
WHAT WE DO NOT HAVE IS ALL THE BOARDS PARTICIPATING, EVEN TO THE EXTENT OF EVEN LISTING THEIR MEETINGS.
THE BIG WHALE IN THIS SITUATION, FOR ME AT LEAST, IS PARKS AND RECREATION.
HERE'S A DEPARTMENT WHICH SPENDS OVER $6 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY.
THEY HAVE A MEMBER ADVISORY BOARD OF 16 TO 18 MEMBERS.
THE MEETINGS ARE HELD NOT IN TOWN HALL, WHICH IS ACCESSIBLE, BUT PUBLIC BY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BUT OVER VETERAN PARK WHERE THERE IS NONE.
AND YET THEIR MEETINGS AREN'T EVEN ON THE AGENDAS IN MEETINGS, MUCH LESS PARENTS OF THE AGENDA, MUCH LESS DO YOU BROADCAST THEM? WHY IS THAT? POLICE ADVISORY BOARD, THE POLICE ARE IN ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE.
I'M NOT TAKING A POSITION ON THAT.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE IS A POLICE ADVISORY BOARD.
WHY ISN'T THE PUBLIC ALLOWED TO KNOW ABOUT THESE MEETINGS EVEN ON AGENDAS AND, AND MINUTES? WHERE ARE THE MINUTES FROM THESE MEETINGS? NOW, NONE OF THESE ISSUES I CONSIDER TO BE PARTICULARLY CONTROVERSIAL.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE ISSUES WHICH ARE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT THE REALITY IS, THE BASE OF ALL I'M TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS KEEPING THE PUBLIC INFORMED AND ENGAGING IN A DIALOGUE WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES BEFORE YOU.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS, ONCE UPON A TIME YOU USED TO HAVE DIAL DEMOCRACY.
YOU WERE VERY PROUD OF THAT, MR. FINER.
AND THEN IT GAVE WAY TO ABILITY TO HAVE THE TOWN CLERK READ YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU COULD NOT ATTEND.
AND MANY PEOPLE CANNOT ATTEND FOR VERY LEGITIMATE REASONS OR THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH ZOOM.
I LIKE TO GO BACK TO HAVING THE TOWN CLERK READ THESE MINUTES.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM LIMITING THE TOWN CLERK TO READING FOR FIVE MINUTES, BUT WHY ARE YOU DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO DISCOURAGE PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT AS AN ISSUE OF DEMOCRACY, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS TOWN SINCE THE YEAR 2000, AND ALL I HAVE IS SEEN IS TAKING AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC AND MOVING IT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
HALF OF THE THINGS ON YOUR AGENDA AT THIS WORK SESSION, WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? WHERE THEY DISCUSSED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEY FINALLY MADE IT OUT TO HERE.
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YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER YOURSELF RESPONSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.AND A BIG PART OF THAT IS, I KNOW YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE NO ONE COVERS THESE MEETINGS IN THE MEDIA ANYMORE, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO EASE INTO THIS POSITION.
BUT THE REALITY IS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWING THE PUBLIC ITS PROPER PLACE.
PART OF IT'S EVEN A REQUIREMENT.
PUBLIC HEARINGS, SAME THINGS THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT IN GENERAL, PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OF THE TOWN BOARD AND THEN ENGAGE IN THE DIALOGUE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU HAVE TO SACRIFICE YOUR FIVE MINUTES TO GET THE TOWN BOARD TO RESPOND.
AND IF THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS DO RESPOND AND DO NOT RESPOND ACTUALLY TO THE QUESTION, BUT SPEND THEIR TIME TALKING, YOU CAN'T INFORM THE PUBLIC WATCHING THAT THEY DIDN'T RESPOND BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE OUT OF ORDER.
NOW, HAS ANY OF WHAT I SAID MADE SENSE? AND IF SO, ARE YOU GONNA DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? THAT'S THE CLUE FOR DIALOGUE.
I'LL BE REVIEWING ALL THESE AND THERE'S MANY SUGGESTIONS YOU MADE THAT YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP.
I I LIKE THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, OF THE, UH, AGENDA, YOU KNOW, AGENDAS AND, YOU KNOW, BEING DISTRIBUTED IN ADVANCE, UH, BY ALL THE COMMITTEES.
I THINK, I THINK YOU MADE SOME VALID POINTS AND I'LL, I WILL, I'LL STUDY THIS AND I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP AND GET BACK TO YOU.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I HOPE YOU'RE SINCERE ON THIS.
WELL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO ANYONE WHO'S WATCHING, AND I THIS MAY BE AGGRESSIVE ON MY PART, THE THINGS I SAYING HERE IN PUBLIC ARE NOT THINGS THAT I HAVE NOT COMMUNICATED TO YOU BY EMAIL VIEW THE TOWN BOARD MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR AND HAVE RECEIVED NO VALUE FROM IT.
SO I HOPE YOU ARE BEING SINCERE THAT NOW THAT YOU ARE BEING RECORDED.
BECAUSE IF YOU AREN'T, WE'LL BE COMING BACK.
YEAH, I I THINK ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, YOU HAVE SOMEONE ADVISORY, UH, BOARD, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO KNOW WHAT THE DISCUSSIONS ARE AND KNOW WHAT THE PLUSES AND MINUSES ARE FROM, FROM ALL THESE COMMITTEE, FROM ALL THE COMMITTEES.
I THINK, I THINK THIS COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, HELPFUL.
SOMETIMES YOU COULD GET A, A GOOD IDEA OR EVEN IF SOMEBODY VOTES NO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY AFTER YOU, YOU HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK.
AND NONE OF US COULD ATTEND EVERY MEETING OF EVERY ADVISORY BOARD.
SO I THINK THAT, I THINK THESE ARE CONSTRUCTIVE SUGGESTIONS.
WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DO HAVE LIAISON TO THE LIBRARY BOARD, WHICH MEETS ONCE A MONTH ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
SHE CAN'T ATTEND BECAUSE SHE'S HERE.
THIS ISN'T PART OF YOUR REORG.
BUT THE REALITY IS, INSTEAD OF MAKING IT AS GENERAL, I'D LIKE YOU TO DEAL SPECIFICALLY WITH THE TWO BOARDS THAT AFFECT WHAT'S GOING ON IN GREENBURG TODAY, PARKS AND REC AND THE POLICE ADVISORY BOARD.
WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT GETTING THEM ON THE WEBPAGE, WHICH ALREADY EXISTS, WHICH I'VE GIVEN YOU A COPYRIGHT THERE OF THAT SHOWS THEY'RE NOT ON IT, ONLY ON THE BOARD.
AND HAL, MR. SONIS, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE TABLE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR COMMENTS, SHARING YOUR PERSPECTIVE, AND, UM, AND RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, COMMENTS FROM RESIDENTS BE READ.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, THE EXPOSURE PROGRAM, UH, RECENTLY GOT, UM, SOME MA AWARDS.
UM, AND I WAS THINKING OF, UH, I WAS SPEAKING TO JUDITH.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH RAY THOMAS AND I'M WONDERING IF THE BOARD WOULD BE OPEN TO A MODIFIED EXPOSURE PROGRAM.
UH, WHEN, UH, YEARS AGO THEY HAD THE EXPOSURE PROGRAM AND IT WAS, THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM WAS A LARGE PROGRAM.
AND THE THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER SAID THE RESIDENTS, THE THE CHILDREN AT, IN FAIRVIEW, THEY REALLY NEEDED HOMEWORK, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS, BUT EXPOSURE.
THEY HAD AN AMAZING, UM, COMMUNICATIONS EFFORT WHERE, UH, THEY HAD A RADIO PROGRAM, UH, FOR, FOR STUDENTS.
THEY WERE LIKE 10, 11 YEAR OLDS WHO HAD THEIR OWN RADIO SHOW.
THEY DID IT FROM THE TOWN HALL AND IT WAS FANTASTIC.
UH, THEY HAD EXPERIENCE TRAINING PEOPLE, UM, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH EXPOSURE.
SO ALL I'M SAYING IS I HAD ASKED MR. THOMAS IF HE COULD COME UP WITH A PROPOSED BUDGET
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FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THAT WOULD BE LIMITED TO MAYBE 15, 20 KIDS THAT WOULD PREPARE KIDS FOR SAY, EMMY AWARD TRAINING.SO WHERE WOULD IT BE HOUSED AND WHERE, WHO WOULD PAY FOR IT? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, SUGGESTING THAT IN ENOUGH UPCOMING, YOU KNOW, BUDGET MM-HMM.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD WE, SO WE WOULD BE COMING UP WITH A NEW BUDGET LINE FOR, FOR 2023 AND WHERE, WHERE WOULD THE PROGRAM BE RUN OUT OF? IT COULD BE RUN OUT OF, UH, COULD BE RUN OUT OF HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE C THEY USED TO DO IT AT THE CAFETERIA, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
IT COULD BE MAYBE THEY WOULD DO IT OUTTA SCHOOL OR THEY COULD DO IT AT, THEY HAVE A YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT THERE'S NO ROOM AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE F I'M THINKING OF VERY LIMITED, LIKE 15 TO 20 KIDS.
AND NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UM, A MAJOR, YOU KNOW, BUDGET ITEM.
AND ALSO I WOULD LOOK AT POSSIBLE GRANTS, UH, TO, TO POSSIBLY FUND IT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO PURSUE THIS IF THE BOARD WAS, YOU KNOW, VERY NEGATIVE.
BUT I, I JUST THINK, THINK IT'S A, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
WHAT WE GOTTA DO IS, LET'S SEE, LET'S SEE.
OKAY, LET'S SAY, SO YOU ASKED HIM FOR A PROPOSAL.
DID HE GIVE YOU A PROPOSAL? YOU ASKED HIM FOR A PROPOSAL.
DID HE GIVE YOU THE PROPOSAL? NO, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET THE PROPOSAL WITH HIM TWO WEEKS, BUT, SO THAT'S GOOD.
NEXT, UH, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE REESTABLISHMENT OF THE M I S COMMITTEE.
SO, UH, WE HAVE C CLICK FIX AND OTHER SOFTWARE COMPANIES, UM, THAT WE'RE USING.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM WHAT THE M I S COMMITTEE USED TO DO WHEN IT MET, BUT IT STOPPED MEETING FOR SOME REASON OR OTHER, PROBABLY THE PANDEMIC.
UM, LOOKING AT SOFTWARE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT INTEGRATES WITH OUR EXISTING SOFTWARE AND, UH, CAN BE USED ACROSS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
SO I'M PROPOSING THAT WE REVISE WHAT WORKED REALLY WELL FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND I, I THINK, I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC HAD STOPPED, BUT IT MAY HAVE BEEN BEFORE THAT.
UH, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THE M I S COMMITTEE THAT WE GOT UNICITY AND EUNICE, WHICH IS NOW BEING USED ACROSS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THEY, UM, AND IT'S WORKED OUT WELL BECAUSE NOW ONE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO CONVERT THEIR DATA IN ORDER TO GIVE IT TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
AND SO, UM, I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE THAT, UM, WE PUT THAT COMMITTEE TOGETHER OF, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TECHNICAL PEOPLE WHO, UH, ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS.
AND WERE YOU THE LIAISON TO THE M I S COMMITTEE? WHAT'D YOU THINK?
AND HE'S NOT SO SURE WE SHOULD STAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T INTEGRATE WELL WITH OUR EXISTING SOFTWARE.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE USING CCL FIX, UH, THAT DATA BASICALLY COMES INTO US AND THEN WE HAVE TO PUT IT INTO OUR OWN SYSTEM AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT WORKS BETTER.
NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SUGGESTING SO HE'S THE ONE ACTUALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I SAID TO HIM, WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD START UP THE M I S AND HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
DEEPAK, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE MIGHT AS WELL DRAW ON HIS KNOWLEDGE UNTIL, UM, YOU KNOW, UNTIL HE RETIRES.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE SUGGESTION.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.
THEY DO THAT AT MY ORGANIZATION, SO THEY TAKE A LOOK AT, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY DEPARTMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT WE NEED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
SO A LOT OF GOOD CAME OUT OF IT.
THE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, PARKS WOULD BUY THE BEST SOFTWARE FOR PARKS AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE, THE WATER DEPARTMENT WOULD BUY THE BEST SOFTWARE FOR WATER DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT DOES SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, SOFTWARE THAT DOESN'T HAVE TREMENDOUS BELLS AND WIGGLE, UH, WHISTLES FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT.
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IT WORKS VERY WELL, AND IT TALKS TO EACH, THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER.AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, UNICITY AND, UH, EUNICE.
NEXT, UM, UH, FOLLOW UP ON LEE.
FRANCIS, I'VE NEVER BEEN, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT.
COME ON THE LASER FISHER SO FAR.
SO FOR THE RECORD, UM, I JUST WANT TO DOCUMENT THE FACT THAT DEEPAK PANIA, WHO IS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OF THE M I SS DEPARTMENT, AND ALSO A CRITICAL ELEMENT AND PART OF THE M I S COMMITTEE, HE WAS CONSULTED.
I CONSULTED HIM WITH REGARDS TO LASER FISH AND THE FOIL MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
AND HE WAS A PART OF EVERY MEETING WITH THE CONSULTANTS, AND HE APPROVED BOTH OF THOSE SOFTWARES.
NOW, THE LASER FISH SOFTWARE HAS BEEN HERE IN THE TOWN.
UM, THE LASER FOOD SOFTWARE HAS EXISTED FOR ALMOST 28 YEARS.
IT WAS INITIALLY BROUGHT TO THE TOWN BY, UH, SUSAN TOLSON, WHO WAS THE TOWN CLERK HERE BEFORE ALFRED WILLIAMS, AND SHE WENT ON TO BECOME ASSISTANT TO THE COUNTY ATTOR, I MEAN, UM, COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
SO WE HAVE HAD LASERFICHE HERE FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.
WE NEED THE UPDATED VERSION OF LASERFICHE.
AND EVERY YEAR THE, UM, CLERK'S OFFICE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE NEW YORK STATE ARCHIVES TO RECOMMEND A DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE TOWN TO TARGET FOR AS RECIPIENT.
AS A RECIPIENT OF A GRANT, I COULD VERY EASILY SAY, NO, I DON'T WANNA SHARE THE WEALTH, I WANT THE GRANT MONEY TO COME TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE ONLY.
HOWEVER, DURING THE COURSE OF MY TENURE, I HAVE EMPOWERED OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN LASER FEE, WHICH, WHICH IS A RECORDS STORAGE, LONG-TERM RECORD STORAGE SOFTWARE.
THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF LASER FISH, AND WE JUST RECEIVED A GRANT FROM LASER FISH FROM DEPARTMENT, I'M SORRY, FROM NEW YORK CITY ARCHIVES TO EXPAND ALSO TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
SO THAT'S GOING TO DECREASE SIGNIFICANTLY THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS, IS REQUIRING.
SO WHAT WOULD REQUIRING WOULD THE AMOUNT, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S, IT WOULD BE LESS BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE, WE RECEIVED A $70,000 GRANT, AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WAS PROPOSED FOR SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS WAS 52,000.
SO WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, HOW MUCH IS REALLY GOING TOWARDS, UM, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, CONSERVATION AND, UM, HOW MUCH CAN BE APPLIED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
BUT MY POINT IS THAT, UH, GOING BACK TO THE M I S, THE, THE, THE RATIONALE FOR THE M I S COMMITTEE, I JUST WANT IT TO BE KNOWN AND DOCUMENTED THAT OUR DIRECTOR OF M I S APPROVED BOTH LASER FE UPGRADE AND THE FOIL MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT I AM REQUESTING.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? SURE.
SINCE, UH, THE MI, SINCE WE ARE HAVING THE M I S COMMITTEE AND THE HEAD OF THE M I S COMMITTEE IS, UM, IS SOMEBODY WHO'S FAMILIAR WITH THIS, WHY DON'T WE, UM, UH, ASK THE M I S COMMITTEE, UH, TO PROVIDE THE TOWN BOARD WITH A REPORT IN TWO WEEKS? UM, OR, AND THIS WAY, AND THIS WAY WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AND WE WON'T JUST KEEP DELAYING IT.
AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A DECISION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, AND THEN YOU COULD GIVE US BE GIVE US BE BEFORE, UH, THAT TIME, UM, UH, UH, A FINAL BUDGET.
SO IF IT'S MUCH LESS, ROBERTA WILL BE HAPPY AND IT'S NOT GOING, YOU KNOW, MESS UP OUR, YOU KNOW, BUDGET CYCLE AND THEN WE COULD TAKE ACTION WITHIN TWO, WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
UH, OH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, PAUL.
HOWEVER, I JUST WANNA SAY THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, UPGRADING SOFTWARE IN THE TOWN SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT MAKING SOMEONE HAPPY OR SOMEONE NOT BEING HAPPY.
THIS IS A NECESSITY TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS.
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WE'VE HAD THE LASER FEE SOFTWARE, SO, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO SEPARATE COMPONENTS TO THIS.ONE IS THE NEED TO UPGRADE THE CURRENT SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS USED PRIMARILY BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
GARRETT'S DEPARTMENT, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OF CONSERVATION, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
CONSERVATION IS GOING TO RECEIVE THE LATEST VERSION OKAY.
NO, I JUST WANNA SAY THIS, THE BOTTOM LINE, PAUL, HAS TO DO WITH DECISION BY THE BOARD.
THE BOARD MADE THE DECISION FOR MUNI TO BE INSTALLED TOWN WIDE.
THE BOARD HAS TO MAKE A DECISION FOR LASER FISH TO BE INSTALLED TOWN WIDE OR TO GRANT THE DOLLARS NEEDED FOR UPGRADES BY THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THEM.
NO, I'M IT SAYING, WELL, I'M SAYING IS THAT WE, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
WE'RE GONNA REFER THIS TO THE M I S AND TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WE'LL GET A REPORT AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION.
SO THE DECISION WE HAVE A VERY LONG, I UNDERSTAND.
SO THE DECISION SHOULD BE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, NOT IT'S INSTALLED TOWN WIDE.
WE'RE NOT DISAGREEING OR THE UPGRADE FOR THE DEPARTMENT SET.
WE'RE NOT DISAGREEING THE SOFTWARE, WE'RE NOT DISAGREEING.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE A DECISION WITHIN TWO WEEKS AND THAT, THAT'S IT.
THEN NEXT WE HAVE THE FOIL MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
IT'S A FOIL MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT, UM, IS, IS GREATLY NEEDED TO HELP MANAGE AND AGAIN, UPGRADE OUR FOIL MANAGEMENT AND, UM, AGAIN, IMPROVE ON SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS.
IS THAT ALSO AN UPGRADE? NO, THAT WOULD BE A NEW SOFTWARE.
UM, HOWEVER, YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS NOT HAD ANY NEW SOFTWARE SINCE 2012.
WE'RE GONNA DO THIS WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SECOND, THE PURPOSE FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING THE PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.
WE'RE NOT COMING BACK THIS EVENING.
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BOARD WORK SESSION IS JULY 12TH AT, UM, 5:00 PM AND, UM, WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT EVERY TOPIC TO 10 MINUTES.SO AFTER 10 MINUTES, WE'RE JUST GONNA CUT IT OFF BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF ACTIVITY.
SO I'M SORRY IF I'M, UH, GONNA BE TOUGH, BUT IT'S THE JOB, RIGHT? GINA? GINA
I'M LEARNING WHY YOU SAY WHY SINGLE ME OUT.
ABSOLUTE DATE TODAY IS, UH, JULY 12TH AT 5:00 PM FIRST TOPIC OF THE FOIL APPEAL.
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DON'T SEE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPELLANT.SO HOW DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED? I, I WILL JUST BRIEFLY SAY THAT, UM, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, UH, DENIED THE REQUEST.
UM, THEY PROVIDED THE FOIL APPLICATION AND THEY POINT TO PUBLIC OFFICER'S LAW SECTION 89 2 B THREE.
UM, I BELIEVE THIS WAS THE PROPER RESPONSE AND THAT THE APPLICATION SHOULD BE DENIED.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SAY ANYTHING? NOPE.
SO, UH, YOU WILL, UH, DRAFT AN OPINION.
FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE TOWN BOARD? YES.
I JUST WANT TO SEE, ASK, UM, IN TERMS OF THE MASK POLICY FOR THE BOARD MEETINGS, UH, THE COVID IS NOW INCREASING.
WE ACCEPT THEM INCREASING A LOT.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF, UM, WE WANT TO REQUIRE MASKS OR IF WE WANT TO SET A DIFFERENT POLICY FOR THE PUBLIC.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? ME
WE HAVE, WE HAVE 45 STUDENTS AND, UM, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO WEAR A MASK WHILE THEY'RE INSIDE.
AND AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT EATING, AND IF THEY'RE NOT OUT, IF THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE OUTSIDE, THEY CAN TAKE THEIR MASK OFF AND THEN
SO COULD WE SAY FOR TOMORROW'S MEETING, EVERYBODY HAS TO WEAR A MASK? THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
SO, BUT ARE WE JUST DOING THAT FOR HERE IN TOWN HALL? ARE WE JUST DOING THAT FOR TOWN BOARD MEETINGS? HOW, HOW WIDELY IS THAT? HOW BROADLY IS THAT APPLICABLE? IS IT OTHER BUILDINGS? I MEAN, RIGHT.
THIS IS NOT, MY FEELING IS, IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
THE BOARD MEETINGS, PEOPLE ARE CONGREGATING AND THE, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES AND, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE WE COULD INITIALLY GIVE DEPARTMENT HEADS THE DISCRETION OF, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD FEELS THAT
WE CAN'T HAVE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE BUILDING.
SOME WEARING MASKS AND WHAT SOME NOT.
AND THEN SOMEBODY WALKS INTO A DIFFERENT AREA, SO WHATEVER.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THE BOARD WANT TO DO? I DON'T, I WOULD SUPPORT REQUIRING MASKS BECAUSE, BUT, BUT I, I THINK WE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE, WE, WE WANT THE MASS, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW BROADLY WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
WE ARE, WE ONLY RESTRICTED TO HERE THE TOWN HALL? OR ARE WE DOING ACROSS THE TOWN? NO, IT WOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD.
THEN THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ACROSS.
WE CAN'T RESTRICT ONE PLACE AND NOT, AND NOT HAVE, SAY ACROSS THE BOARD BOARD WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INDOORS? ANYTHING INDOORS IN ALL, ALL MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS IN ALL OF THE HOURS.
ARE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR PRIVATE OFFICE, ALLOWED TO TAKE THEM OFF WELL'S? YOUR RECOMMENDATION? WELL, THAT'S WORKED IN THE PAST THAT WHEN THEY'RE IN THEIR PRIVATE OFFICE WITHOUT ANYONE ELSE NEARBY, THEY CAN TAKE THEIR MASKS OFF.
THAT DOESN'T MAYBE I AGREE WITH THAT.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD RENEW THE PAST POLICY THAT WAS IN PLACE, WHICH THAT WAS IN PLACE.
DON'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING NEW.
JUST PUT THE OLD POLICY BACK INTO PLACE.
UM, SO WE'RE PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA.
AND I'LL POST SOMETHING TONIGHT BEFORE I LEAVE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP.
UM, ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA? OH, SO THE LEAF BLOWER IS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY MENTIONED, AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE TWO DAYS? NO, NO LEAF BLOWERS.
IF IT WAS ON WEEKENDS INSTEAD OF, UM, YOU KNOW, TUESDAY AND THURSDAY.
AND I'M WONDERING, I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
WE ALREADY TELL THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE NO LEAF BLOWERS ON THE WEEKENDS THAT'S WORKING.
NO, THAT'S, THAT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION.
OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE LANDSCAPERS.
I STILL DUNNO HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST MAKING STUFF UP AS WE GO ALONG.
IT WAS, FIRST IT WAS MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY AND THUR FRIDAY, AND THEN IT WAS TUESDAY AND THURSDAY, THEN IT WAS DIFFERENT HOURS.
I, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING SOME ROLLOUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT ONE DAY A WEEK WOULD BE A, A GOOD START TO IT, PARTICULARLY SINCE WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH THE SEASON.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ENFORCEMENT.
LIKE PEOPLE THINK THAT THERE'S GONNA BE, ENFORCEMENT WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT FOR THE FIRST YEAR, FOR THIS YEAR, THAT WE MAKE IT A TWO YEAR BILL INSTEAD OF A ONE YEAR.
NOW WE'RE CHANGING THE LAW AND I'M BASICALLY SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE, UH, THE FIRST YEAR WOULD BE WARNINGS.
THIS YEAR WOULD BE ONLY WARNINGS.
AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE WOULD DO THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE TWO DAY RULE IF WE GO WITH TWO DAYS.
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BE JUST EDUCATION.'CAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY ENOUGH TIME.
BUT WHAT'S THE EDUCATION ON? SO YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA ENFORCE IT? NO, WE WOULD GET, SO WHAT'S, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, WHAT WOULD BE, WE WOULD GIVE A WARNING TO PEOPLE SAYING THE TOWN WOULD PASS THE LAW.
AND, UH, ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS, YOU CAN'T USE THE LEAF BLOWERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR WE'LL START ENFORCING IT.
NEXT, START NEXT YEAR WE'LL START RIGHT.
AND IF YOU HAVE A LANDSCAPE WHERE PLEASE, UH, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS.
SO THEY SHOULD DO IT ON OTHER DAYS IF FIVE OTHER DAYS THAT THEY COULD COME, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE HEARING TOMORROW.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I, I THINK OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE HEARING ON BECAUSE WE CAN'T, WHAT VERSION IS I, I STOPPED LOOKING QUITE FRANKLY, BECAUSE IT JUST CHANGES EVERY TIME WE GET TO A WORK SESSION.
THAT I SAW ANOTHER ONE THAT EXPIRES, EXPIRES IN OCTOBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THOUGHT THE LAST ONE WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO IF, IF YES, THE WORDING AND THE LEGISLATIVE FINDING SAYS THAT IT WILL BE LIMITED THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH, 2022.
BUT EVEN IF WE MADE THAT CHANGE, THEN THERE'S STILL AN EXPIRATION CLAUSE RIGHT AT THE END.
SO WE JUST CHANGE IT, MAKE IT 20 END OF 23 IF WE AGREE.
THERE'S A REASON WHY THIS HASN'T BEEN PASSED IN DECADES.
SO WHAT'S THE SOLUTION? A TWO YEAR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER VERSION COME OUT AND THEN YEAH, IT'S GONNA CHANGE AGAIN.
SO, SO WHAT'S THE PUBLIC HEARING ON TOMORROW'S? 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT THE VERSION BEFORE THE RIGHT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN ON WHAT VERSION THOUGH? I, I WOULD'VE LIKED IT IF IT WOULD BE, BUT THIS IS THE VERSION THAT'S, I'M SORRY.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT THIS IS THE VERSION THAT'S CURRENTLY ONLINE.
IS THE ONE THAT PEOPLE, PEOPLE WILL COME AND TALK ABOUT 20, THE 2020.
SO THEN THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM.
WE CAN'T CHANGE IT, MR. RIGHT? NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.
BUT DURING THE HEARING, IF YOU MAKE THOSE SUGGESTIONS, THEY'LL BE IN THE RECORD AND WE CAN CONSIDER THEM FOR OUR FINAL RIGHT, EXACTLY.
FOR THE DISCUSSION A LITTLE LATER ON.
JUST WAIT UNTIL YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
YEAH, NO, I'LL, UH, FOR THE DISCUSSION LATER ON.
WITH REGARD TO THE HOUSING AND THE SUSTAINABILITY, A PLANNING BOARD MEMBER IS AVAILABLE, IS THAT TO BE A TOM BOARD ONLY DISCUSSION, OR DID YOU WANT ME TO SEND THE ZOOM LINK? WELL, THERE'S QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE 10 MINUTES PER TOPIC, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TIME TO ACTUALLY ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION.
WITH REGARD TO THE DSS DISTRICT, UM, SO WE HAD A, A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE LAST TOWN BOARD MEETING, AND THAT PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
UH, FOLLOWING THE, THE CLOSE OF THE WRITTEN RECORD THERE, WE DID RECEIVE, UH, COMMENTS, UM, SOME IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL AND SOME WITH, UH, CRITICAL I TOWARDS THE PROPOSAL
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A SLANTED WAY OF PRESENTING.
YEAH,
UM, SO, UH, SINCE, SO FOR THE LOCAL LAW THAT WAS POSTED, I DID MAKE SOME CHANGES.
UH, MS. PRIZER, UH, SENT THERE SOME COMMENTS.
I SPOKE WITH HER ON THE PHONE.
UM, AFTER REVIEWING HER, HER, HER SUGGESTIONS, SEVERAL OF THOSE SUGGESTIONS, UM, WERE, YOU KNOW, VERY CUT AND DRY AND, AND CLEARLY, UH, MESS, QUITE FRANKLY, NECESSARY, UH, FOR THE LOCAL LAW TO BE, UH, PROPER AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE WRONG CITATIONS AND SO ON.
UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT, UM, I SPOKE WITH, WITH MS. PRIZER AND DISCUSSED, UH, THE RATIONALE FOR EITHER MAKING THOSE CHANGES OR NOT.
UM, IN INSTANCES WHERE, UH, I EXPLAINED THAT THERE WAS NOT A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE LOCAL LAW, IT WASN'T THAT I HAD A DISAGREEMENTS, UH, DISAGREEMENT WITH, WITH MS. ER WAS MORE SO THAT, UM, THOSE TYPE OF CHANGES.
THERE ARE SEVERAL CHANGES SHE RECOMMENDS THAT WOULD PERMEATE THROUGHOUT THE CODE AND, YOU KNOW, ASPIRE FOR CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE CODE.
AND I DO THINK THERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE TIME TO ADDRESS THAT.
THE TIME IS NOT NOW AS PART OF THIS DSS DISTRICT.
UM, SHE MADE THE POINT THAT, UM, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO REMOVE, UH, 120,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR CABARET IN THE DSS.
THAT WAS A, A RECOMMENDATION PLANNING BOARD.
UM, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CA, WHICH HAS NO LAND REQUIREMENT.
I'M NOT IN A POSITION RIGHT NOW TO COME TO THE BOARD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE 20 SHOULD COME OUT.
THERE SHOULD BE NO MAN REQUIREMENT, OR ONE 20 SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE CA.
MAYBE IT'S 60,000 SQUARE FEET.
I JUST, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THIS IS NOT THE FORUM TO
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KIND OF MAKE A QUICK CHANGE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.SO I TRY TO AVOID ANY ABRUPT CHANGES LIKE THAT.
UM, SHE DOES INDICATE THAT, UH, SHE WOULD ADVOCATE FOR A MORE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, UPDATE TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AT SOME TIME.
UH, WE'LL REMIND THE BOARD THAT AROUND 2008, UH, THERE WAS A ZONING ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, THEIR WORK WAS HALTED, UH, AT ONE POINT BECAUSE THE IDEA WAS LET'S ADOPT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN REVISIT IT.
UM, ZORK WAS NEVER REVISITED, BUT THERE ARE GOOD NOTES.
UM, I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO REVIEW THOSE NOTES AND, UM, THINK ABOUT MAYBE MORE SWEEPING, UH, CHANGES, UH, TO THE, TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT INVOLVE A CONSULTANT.
UM, MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO UNDERTAKE.
SO WE MIGHT GO THE R F P ROUTE.
UM, BUT I'LL COME WITH TO YOU WITH THAT AT A LATER DATE.
BUT LONG STORY SHORT, UM, I PREPARED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE PROPOSED DSS CHANGES, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, INDICATES, UM, THE, THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSED.
UM, PREPARED RESOLUTIONS, UH, SUPPORTING THE ZONING MAP CHANGE, UH, AND APPROVING THE ZONING MAP CHANGE DSS, UH, APPROVING THE LOCAL LAW ASSOCIATED WITH THE DSS.
SO THERE'S THREE RESOLUTIONS, UM, ON THE DOCKET TOMORROW FOR YOUR VOTE AS CONSIDERATION OF A VOTE.
UM, FOR SIMILAR REASONS DURING MY PRESENTATION, I FEEL LIKE THESE ARE, UM, THE RIGHT MOVES TO MAKE FOR THE DSS DISTRICT.
I THINK, UM, YOU'RE BRINGING A LOT OF GOOD USES THAT WILL MINIMIZE VACANCIES.
AND, UM, I THINK WE HAVE GOOD PROCESSES HERE VIA SPECIAL PERMIT SITE PLAN AND, UH, THE WAY WE CARRY OUT SEEKER TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF GOOD NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE TOWN.
UM, AND WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB? YES.
SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB IS ON FOR A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THE ONE MINUTE VERSION.
UM, SO THEY, THEY WILL BRIEF YOU ON THAT AS FAR AS, UH, THEY DID SOME OUTREACH TO OTHER GOLF COURSES REGARDING THE SAFETY NETTING, UM, THE, THE, THE SAFETY LEVEL OF THE NETTING THAT THEY PROPOSE.
UM, CLEARLY THERE'S GONNA BE SOME RESIDENT INPUT.
UM, WE'VE GOTTEN A HANDFUL OF EMAILS FROM, UH, MEMBERS OF THE CLUB, UH, THAT ADVOCATE FOR THE PROJECT.
UH, I THINK SOME RESIDENTS FROM SOME OF THE MULTI-FAMILY, UH, WILL AGAIN, COME OUT AND WE'LL HEAR THOSE COMMENTS.
UM, BUT YES, THAT IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING ON FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, ONE NIGHT.
UM, THE VIDEO CONFERENCING, UM, THE QUESTION I HAD IS IF SOMEBODY HAS COMORBIDITIES, UM, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I SPOKE TO SOMEBODY WHO WAS ON A BOARD AND THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO ATTEND THE MEETING AND IN PER IN PERSON, YOU KNOW WHAT? ALRIGHT, SO THE WAY THE, THE GOVERNORS, UM, WE DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S GONNA EXTEND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER YET.
WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE WEEK.
UM, BUT IF WE WERE TO ADOPT VIDEO CONFERENCE, UM, FOR OURSELVES, THEN WE MUST MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC REGARDLESS OF THEIR NEED.
IN OTHER WORDS, SO IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE VIDEO CONFERENCING AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF CALLING IN REMOTELY, THEN THE PUBLIC HAS TO BE GIVEN THE SAME OPPORTUNITY.
BUT BASICALLY, WHAT TYPE OF OPTIONS DO PEOPLE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE? YOU, IF SOMEBODY FEELS, I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM.
AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE QUORUM, QUORUM IN PLACE, SOMEONE FOR GOOD REASON CAN BE REMOTE.
BUT AS LONG AS THAT THERE'S A QUORUM TOGETHER IN, AND THAT'S ALL THE STATE LAW.
UH, HOWEVER, ONE OF YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM IN PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE FACILITIES.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN ONE PLACE, BUT COMMONLY IT'S IN ONE PLACE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A BOARD MEMBER WHO DOESN'T MIND SAYING, I CAN'T GET THE TOWN HALL, I CAN'T, I DON'T MIND YOU COMING TO MY HOUSE, BUT I HAVE TO DO THIS BY ZOOM, THEN THEY COULD COUNT IN THE QUORUM AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
REALLY? I, I THOUGHT DIFFERENTLY.
I THOUGHT THAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE AND YOU HAVE TO NOTICE IT, YOU TO RIGHT IN PLACE, TOWN HALL, WHEREVER THAT YOU HAVE, HAVE A QUORUM THAT'S ALMOST LIKE, AND THEN, AND, AND OTHER MEMBERS.
SO AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THREE, TWO OF US IN THIS INSTANCE, TWO OF US COULD CALL IN, LET, LEMME CHECK WHAT THE, WHAT WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED.
IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO ATTEND A TOWN BOARD MEETING AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEIR HOUSE PUBLIC, THAT DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE.
WELL, IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE COVID, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE MEETING.
BUT LISTEN, IF YOU WANT TO COME OVER, THAT'S, BUT, BUT I'LL, I'M LOOKING AT OUR PROPOSED LAW AND IT SAYS LOCATIONS AT WHICH THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND THE MEETING.
IN TERMS OF, UH, THE, THE ONE WAY ON ROBIN
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HEALTH AND, UH, JOY, UH, DO WE HAVE NICK RESON FOR THIS? WE'VE GOTTEN LIKE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU'VE ALL GOTTEN EMAILS.THAT'S, BUT WE, WE SPECIFICALLY STOOD OUT ON THE STREET AND WE WERE GOING TO HEAR HIS DATA, MAKE HIS DATA AVAILABLE AT A PUBLIC MEETING AND THEN MAKE OUR DECISION, WHICH IS WHY WE DIDN'T POST A RESOLUTION YET.
HE SAID AT THE LAST MEETING THAT HE, HE HAD DATA.
NO, THE LAST MEETING, HE SAID, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHY WE EXTENDED IT, IS HE DIDN'T HAVE CHANCE YET TO REALLY LOOK AT THE DATA.
BUT HE HAD, HE JUST HAD OH, HE HAD DATA ISSUE.
IS IS, IS HE, WHAT'S THAT? DO YOU HAVE HIS PHONE NUMBER? I DO.
WE'RE AT THE TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.
UH, DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THE ONE WAY AND DATA AND IF SO, ARE YOU IN ANYWHERE WHERE YOU COULD SIGN ON TO ZOOM OR COME OVER OR WHAT? I'M SORRY.
I WAS, UH, I'M AWAY ON VACATION.
SO HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? WE'LL WAIT BACK FROM LAKE GEORGE
THE DATA YOU CAN SHARE WITH US.
WILL YOU BE BACK FOR TOMORROW NIGHT? TOMORROW I'M WORKING TOMORROW NIGHT, YES.
MAYBE YOU COULD DON'T MAKE A PRESENT PRESENTATION.
YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO MAKE IT WAIT, WAIT.
LET'S, LET'S FIND OUT HIS RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT GIVING A LEADING QUESTION.
I MEAN, IF HE'S GONNA COME TOMORROW, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THOUGH.
I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE TWO VERSIONS.
WELL, HE CAN JUST GIVE, BUT IF HE COULD AT LEAST TELL US WHATEVER.
WELL, HE'S JUST AVAILABLE TO PRESENT HIS, TO PRESENT HIS FINDINGS AND THEN WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE A VOTE OR WE CAN TABLE A VOTE UNTIL SOME OTHER TIME IT CAN EXPIRES ON FRIDAY.
WELL, BUT, BUT ABLE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO WHY DON'T WE HAVE HIM DO A SPOILER ALERT.
THE TEST RESULTS ARE STILL THE SAME AS THE SAME SET OF DATA.
AND WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR CONCLUSION? UH, THAT THE SPEED AND VOLUME, THE, THE VOLUME FOR MOUNT JOY WAS REDUCED AND THE SPEED WAS REDUCED FROM MOUNT JOY.
YOU KNOW, MARGINALLY, UM, THE VOLUME WAS SLIGHTLY, IT WAS REDUCED FROM ROBIN HILL, I WANNA SAY.
AND THE SPEED WENT UP LIKE ONE MILE PER HOUR, BUT STILL BOTH BELOW THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.
UM, HENRY STREET DID SEE AN INCREASE IN VOLUME, UM, BUT THE SPEED REMAINED THE SAME.
SO THAT'S THE SAME DATA THAT WE'VE HAD.
IT'S THE SAME, SAME, SAME SET OF DATA.
SO YOU WANTED SOME TIME TO ACTUALLY DIGEST IT? HAVE YOU DIGESTED IT? YEAH, AND I SHARED IT.
I SHARED IT WITH THE RESIDENTS.
SO THEY, UH, VICKI ADLER WAS ONE OF THE RESIDENTS AND I SHARED, UM, ALL THE SETS OF DATA WITH, WITH EVERYONE.
SO I THINK IT WAS, UM, THE RESIDENTS WHO WERE KIND OF REVIEWING IT, BUT WE SAW, WE PREPARED THE CHARTS THAT I SHARED WITH YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS SAW THAT.
SO THAT'S, UH, THE SAME, SAME DATA.
UM, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS NOW IT'S THE ENGINEERING GROUP IS WORKING ON A PLAN FOR SPEED TABLES AND SUPPORT SPEED HUMPS RATHER.
FOR HENRY STREET HUMPS OR BUMPS, UH, HUMPS, NOT BUMPS.
AND SO ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH, UH, CONTINUING THE ONE WAY? YES.
SO, AND THEN TOMORROW NIGHT YOU CAN COME AND EXPLAIN WHY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION, PAUL, THAT KRISTA OR SOMEBODY OR EVEN ONE OF THE INTERNS GO THROUGH THE LETTERS FOR AND AGAINST AND CALLS FOR AND AGAINST, AND YOU JUST HAVE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A TANGIBLE FOR NUMBER AND A TANGIBLE AGAINST NUMBER.
YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS, YEAH, I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
'CAUSE THEN IT BECOMES A POPULARITY CONTEST.
THIS IS REALLY A, A SAFETY ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO PEOPLE EVERY FEW DAYS FOR THE PAST TWO MONTHS.
I BIKE THERE AND, UM, UM, AND ALMOST EVERYONE I'VE SPOKEN TO LIKES IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE ARE GIVING ME THUMBS UP.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BASICALLY THANKING ME SAYING THEY FEEL SAFER THAN THEY EVER, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE CRITICAL, BUT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS REALLY, REALLY LIKE IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A, IT'S RIGHT NOW, IF WE MAKE IT PERMANENT, THEN WE COULD WORK ON THE
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SIDEWALK.THEY'RE GONNA, UH, UH, UH, UH, SERGEANT REON AND RICH FOND, THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING BIKE LIKE A BIKE PEDESTRIAN.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT THEY COULD DO TO MAKE, DO WE STILL NEED NICK OR CAN WE LET HIM GET BACK TO HIS FAMILY VACATION?
ARE WE DONE WITH NICK? YEAH, I'M READY TO VOTE.
NICK, JUST, NICK, JUST SAY YOU CAN'T HEAR US AND YOU CAN GET OFF THE PHONE.
WELL, ENJOY, ENJOY REALITY WEIGHT AWAIT YOU WHEN YOU GET BACK.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE RELYING ON WHAT YOU SAY YOU'VE HEARD RATHER THAN HAVING SOMETHING QUANTIFIABLE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF POPULAR, IT'S EITHER A POPULARITY CONTEST OR, BECAUSE THERE DIDN'T SOUND LIKE THERE WAS A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT NICK TOLD US.
SO I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY OF QUANTIFYING SO THAT IT, IT, YOU KNOW, TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE RESIDENTS FELT.
THIS IS NOT ONLY ABOUT TRA IT IS NOT ONLY ABOUT THE SPEEDING, IT'S ALSO ABOUT IN THE MORNING, UM, KIDS BEING ABLE TO WALK, YOU KNOW, TO SCHOOL FEELING, YOU KNOW, UM, MORE SAFE.
BECAUSE THE ROAD NOW, YOU KNOW, IS, IS IT'S SAFER FOR CHILDREN TO WALK, BUT HOW IS IT SAFER IF IN FACT THAT OTHER THAN WE DON'T HAVE CARS GOING BOTH WAYS, WHICH MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY BIG THOUGH.
I REMEMBER LEAVING THAT SITE, THAT, UH, VISIT THAT WE MADE, AND I SAW FIRSTHAND HOW I WAS GOING IN ONE DIRECTION.
ANOTHER CAR APPROACHED THE, UH, THE OTHER DIRECTION.
THEN THERE WERE PEOPLE WALKING IN THE STREET AND THEY HAD TO, AS, AS SLOW AS I WENT, AND I BASICALLY CAME TO A STOP, STOP.
THEY ACTUALLY, THERE WAS NO SPACE BETWEEN US TO GO MM-HMM.
AND WHAT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE LEVEL, LEVEL, UH, GROUND, BUT THE WHOLE REASON OF DOING A SURVEY AND HAVING THE RESIDENTS WEIGH IN.
BUT I WOULDN'T WANNA JUST COUNT.
IS THE DECISION YOU'RE CONTEMPLATING, UH, PERMANENT OR JUST, UH, AN EXTENSION FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS OR SOME OTHER DURATION? NO PERMANENT.
UNLESS THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, IF WE FIND THAT THERE'S A REASON NOT TO, MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE TO DO, UM, CALL IT SEMI-PERMANENT, BUT LIKE SIX MONTHS SO THAT YOU CATCH SOME SCHOOL YEAR IN THERE AND, AND HAVE THAT DATA AS WELL.
WELL, WE DID CATCH, THE ONLY REASON THAT I, I ALWAYS DISAGREE WITH THAT.
WE GOT, WE ONLY GOT THE 30 DAYS THOUGH.
YEAH, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, NICK, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS, THEY WANT TO DO ADDITIONAL THINGS TO MAKE A SAFE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, HER PERMANENT UPDATE.
WE COULD BASICALLY PUT THE SIDEWALK ON ROBIN HEALTH, UH, THIS SUMMER, UH, BEFORE THE SCHOOL STARTS.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SORT OF WAITING TO SEE WHAT, UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
UM, SO I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW NICK TO YEAH.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, JUST AS ONE MORE THING, UM, THE AGENDA REVIEW, UH, RICH AND BRIAN, THEY'RE COMING IN ON ZOOM.
SO WE HAVE A $17 MILLION PROJECT ON THE AGENDA.
AND DO YOU WANT TO GIVE A, THE SHORT VERSION OF EITHER ONE OF YOU AS TO WHY THAT'S NEEDED AND WHAT THE, UH, WATER ADVISORY, UH, BOARD, UH, STATED.
YOU WANNA HANDLE IT, BRIAN? UH, YEAH, I COULD, I CAN HANDLE IT.
SO, UH, IN SHORT, UH, THE TOWN'S, UH, TOWN CONSOLIDATED AWARD NUMBER ONE HAS BEEN ADVISED THAT THE NEW YORK CITY D E P IS GOING TO BE CEASING CHLORINATION BEGINNING, UH, UH, THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AS PART OF THAT, THE TOWN IS REQUIRED TO IMPROVE OUR, UM, OUR CHLORINATION PROCESS.
SO BASICALLY WE HAVE TO INSTALL A NEW CHEMICAL FEED STATION AND A CONTACT TANK.
UH, WE RECEIVED, UH, BIDS IN JUNE.
UH, THE BIDS CAME IN HIGHER THAN WE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED, UH, UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO, YOU KNOW, INFLATION DUE TO, UM, LABOR SHORTAGES.
AND IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE INDUSTRY HAS SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH WITH OUR TOWN WATER ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL THAT WE HAVE HAS ALSO RECOMMENDED THEY'VE REVIEWED THE BIDS AND THEY RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, AWARDING THE FOUR LOWEST, UH, RESPECTIVE BIDDERS.
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SO, DO WE HAVE A CHOICE? UH, WE HAVE A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE.SO THE, THE D E P IS GONNA BE CEASING, CHLORINATION, LIKE I SAID, AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE UP AGAINST A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK OUT TO BID.
IF WE DID, THAT WOULD DELAY THE PROJECT BY MONTHS.
UM, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY TEND DELAY 'CAUSE WE'RE ALREADY ON A VERY TIGHT SCHEDULE TO BEGIN WITH.
WE'D BE PENALIZED IF WE DELAY IT.
DO, DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THE, UH, I'LL READ IT FROM ANDY'S MEMO IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO.
ISN'T THAT DONE THAT THEY OUT THERE, THEY GIVE OUT THE, UH, BOIL WATER NOTICE, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY SAY A PUBLIC HAZARD.
SHOULD WE NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THIS DEADLINE? THE TOWN'S WATER SUPPLY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION.
THE SAFE, UH, SAFE DRINKING WATER ACT AND THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SANITARY CODE PART FIVE, SUBPART FIVE DASH ONE, THE PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM SECTION FIVE DASH 1.30.
PROVIDING TREATMENT FOR PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM.
THIS VIOLATION IS DEEMED A PUBLIC HEALTH HAZARD AND A BOILED WATER ADVISORY BEEN ISSUED TO THE ENTIRE WATER SYSTEM.
THE SYSTEM REMAINS IN VIOLATION.
THIS TYPE OF VIOLATION IS CONSIDERED A TIER ONE VIOLATION DUE TO THE THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH.
AND A TIER ONE VIOLATIONS REQUIRE, THE PUBLIC IS NOTIFIED WITHIN 24 HOURS OF THE VIOLATION TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC.
IN 24 HOURS, THE BOIL WATER ADVISORY PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT WOULD'VE TO BE BROADCAST IN TELEVISION, RADIO, AND PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND ONLINE.
THIS NOTIFICATION WOULD NEED TO BE DONE EVERY DAY.
THE SYSTEM REMAINS IN VIOLATION.
THESE ARE NOT SHORT TERM CONSEQUENCES.
SHOULD THE VIOLATION NOT BE CORRECTED, THE TIME WILL BE FINE BY THE NEAR IN STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A DAY AND MAY BE REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT OTHER TREATMENT TECHNIQUES AT THE, THE COST THAT WOULD FAR EXCEED THIS PROJECT.
UM, SO I THINK, UH, IT'S WITHOUT QUESTION THAT THIS HAS TO GET DONE.
ALL RIGHT, SO LET ME BUT KNOW THAT THE WHAT IS NOT IN ANY WAY, UH, IN ANY VIOLATION, RIGHT? UH, AND SO LET'S EMPHASIZE THAT BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY TUNES IN, THEY'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT VIOLATIONS.
THE TOWN HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG.
NEW YORK CITY HAS CHANGED WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING TO TREAT THE WATER BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE TREATING IT.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO PICK UP THOSE COSTS, AND THOSE COSTS ARE WHAT WE ARE NOW, UM, HAVING TO SPEND OR, OR TO, UM, TO REMEDY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE DEADLINE THAT THEY HAVE FOR THIS IS JANUARY 1ST.
THERE'S A SUPPLY SHORTAGE, THERE'S AN EMPLOYEE'S, UM, UH, SHORTAGE.
UM, THE COSTS HAVE SKYROCKETED AND WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE THIS IS THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, UH, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE THAT NEW YORK CITY HAS, UM, UH, IS HAS IN HOW IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, TREATING OR NOT TREATING THE WATER.
WE'RE OVER, WE'RE OVER OUR TIME FOR AGENDA REVIEW.
I JUST DIDN'T WANNA LET $17 MILLION JUST PASS BY.
LEGISLATION RESTRICTING SALES, TOBACCO VAPING.
I SENT EVERYBODY, UM, UH, PROPOSED, UH, YOU KNOW, FIRST DRAFT, UM, YOU KNOW, ORDINANCE.
UM, I, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, ELLEN HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD SEPARATE THE CANNABIS FROM THE, FROM THE, UH, PROPOSED DRAFT.
THE REASON I HAD INCLUDED THE CANNABIS AND THE FIRST DRAFT WAS BECAUSE I THINK THE PLANNING BOARD HAD RECOMMENDED, UH, THAT WE ALLOW CANNABIS ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
AND, UM, I, I FEEL THAT THE BOARD IN DECEMBER, WE ALL MAKE COMMITMENTS THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA ALLOW THE DISPENSARIES, UH, YOU KNOW, ON CENTRAL AVENUE AND ONE 19 AND IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE IN SCHOOL AREAS.
SO I BASICALLY WANTED TO REASSURE OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH, THROUGH THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT WE WERE KEEPING THE COMMITMENTS THAT THE BOARD BOARD MADE.
BUT, UM, IF YOU KNOW THE LEGISL, WHEN YOU COME UP WITH THE FINAL VERSION, IF WE DO WHAT WE BASICALLY SAID AND PUT IT IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS, THEN, THEN THERE'S NO NEED FOR FOR THAT TO BE INCORPORATED.
AND, AND THE LAW, THE PROBLEM THAT, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, UM, ON CENTRAL AVENUE, UM, A FEW DAYS LAST WEEK, UH, UH, A NEW SMOKE SHOP HAD VERY, YOU KNOW, PUT A LOT OF LIKE ITEMS PARAPHERNALIA.
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AND ALSO KNIVES.THE KNIVES ARE STILL, I THINK WE'RE STILL THERE IN THE WINDOW WEST.
AND THE, THE SMOKING PACK IN THERE.
JOE, PUT YOUR MIC, YOUR MIC'S OFF AND YOU NEED TO BRING IT CLOSER TO YOU.
UM, THEY WERE IN MOST LIKELY IN VIOLATION OF A STATE LAW THAT ALREADY EXISTS THAT, UH, SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA CANNOT BE DISPLAYED IN STORE WINDOWS WITHIN 1500 FEET OF A SCHOOL.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY CODIFY THAT WITHIN THE TOWN CODE AS WELL.
MY OFFICE IS DRAFTING A VERSION FOR, FOR YOUR REVIEW, AND I KNOW PAUL HAD SET THE VERSION AROUND TOO.
SO WE'RE TAKING SUGGESTIONS FROM THAT AND WE'RE DRAFTING IT NOW.
UM, I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE DOING RESEARCH AND PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND, UH, I, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO PAUL AND WE'LL CIRCULATE THAT AGAIN SOON AND I'LL TAKE ANY FEEDBACK YOU HAVE ON THAT.
AND IF WE'RE WE'RE DOING, I JUST DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO CONFLATE THE, UM, THIS SALE OF, OF, UM, THE LEGAL SALE OF MARIJUANA AND, AND RESTRICTING IT WITH THE SALE OF WEAPONS BECAUSE THAT SOMEHOW, SOMEHOW IT'S, IT'S JUST THE, THE SUGGESTION THAT IT CRIMINALIZES THE ONE.
SO I FELT IF WE DO SOMETHING, THEN THEY SHOULD BE SEPARATE.
PEOPLE ARE JUST CONCERNED, LIKE ON THESE TAR STILL NEED TO, POLICE MADE SOME ARRESTS BECAUSE, UH, THEY WERE SELLING MAR YOU KNOW, MARIJUANA, CANNABIS LIKE IN THE BACK DOORS TOO.
I THINK MINORS, I THINK THERE WERE TWO ARRESTS IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, COUPLE MONTHS.
AND, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST ARE WORRIED THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL GO IN THE BACK DOOR AND, AND BASICALLY YEAH, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S ALL ABOUT, THAT'S TO BE, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE EXPECTED TO SOME DEGREE UNTIL, YEAH, UNTIL EVERYONE, UNTIL THIS IS REALLY ENFORCEABLE AND THEN THEY REALLY REALIZE HOW NONSENSE THAT GREENBERG WILL BE AND THAT WE'RE ENFORCING OUR RULES.
SO I THINK THAT HAS TO BE EXPECTED.
SO, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A DR WELL, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO MEET WITH THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL, UM, MAYBE NEXT WEEK.
YEAH, I THINK IF YOU WANNA HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, UM, WE COULD TAKE SOME FURTHER GUIDANCE.
I COULD, I COULD GET A DRAFT OUT SOMETIME NEXT WEEK FOR EVERYBODY.
SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAD IS, WHAT IS THE ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS THE TOWN TO DO WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATION SAYS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY AND THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR THE COUNTY? SO I CALLED SOMEONE FROM THE STATE, AND I HAD A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION ON THAT.
THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY ARE NOT OPPOSED TO STRICTER LAWS.
YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THEM, UM, LESSEN EITHER THE AMOUNT OF FEE OR THE, OR THE PENALTIES.
SO WE HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TRYING TO COLLECT DATA AS TO WHAT THEY PUT IN THEIR LAWS AND WHO'S THE ENFORCING, UH, OFFICERS IN THAT.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THAT RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE A PARALEGAL WORKING ON THAT.
I HAVE A LAW STUDENT INTERN WORKING ON THAT.
UM, I'M CALLING PEOPLE AS WELL.
SO WE'RE COLLECTING THAT DATA NOW AND I BELIEVE THAT, UM, WE COULD PROBABLY PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT WILL COMPLY WITH THE STATE LAW, BUT ALSO BE AT THE TOWN LEVEL AS WELL.
UM, AND WHEN I HAVE THAT, UH, IN, IN WRITING, AND THEN I KNOW THAT THAT COULD BE DONE, I'LL SEND IT AROUND FOR YOUR REVIEW, BUT WHO, WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT PUTTING IT IN WRITING, WHAT IS THE ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS A TOWN TO DO IT? IT, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE STATE SAYS THAT COUNTIES AND CITIES OF MORE THAN A MILLION PEOPLE THAT HAVE AN AGENCY THAT REGULATES THIS THING, MEANING NEW YORK CITY, UM, THEY CAN, THEY CAN REGULATE COUNTIES AND NEW YORK CITY OR OTHER, I GUESS, CITIES THAT ARE, UH, GREATER THAN A MILLION THAT HAVE AN AGENCY.
ONE IS, WHY ISN'T IT BEING ENFORCED NOW, IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS WITH THE STATE, WITH THE COUNTY HAVING THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, BUT IT CLEARLY SAYS THAT THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS A COUNTY PERSON, NOT A TOWN PERSON.
SO IF SOMEBODY'S TELLING YOU, YOU CAN MAKE IT STRICTER, ALL I'M LOOKING FOR IS WHERE IS THAT WRITTEN THAT WE CAN GO STRICTER.
I WILL MAKE THAT FOLLOW UP CALL BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT CLEAR CUT ANSWER TO THAT LAW.
UM, I KNOW YOU'LL NEED IT WHEN YOU RECEIVE ANY FIRST DRAFT FOR FURTHER REVIEW.
WELL, I JUST WANT MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO GIVE, AND ALSO IN THAT, THAT LEGISLATION, IT TALKS ABOUT THE COUNTY CAN AFFECT THE LICENSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFECT THEIR LICENSE, LICENSE AS A LOCAL LEVEL.
IT'S WORTH A, A CALL THEN THE COUNTY.
AND SO I DON'T WANT US TO GO IN AND GIVE A VIOLATION AND THEN THE FIRST TIME WE GO TO COURT, COURT SAYS, YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY
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TO DO THIS.WELL, WE PASSED A LOCAL LAW BASED ON WHAT? MM-HMM.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE SARS LAW THAT WE HAD? THAT'S A TOTALLY, LET'S NOT GO THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE, LET'S NOT GO THERE, PAUL.
WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE THE FOLLOW UP AND WE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION IF IT'S DOABLE.
AND THE MASSAGE WALL IS WORKING WELL, NO, IT IS WORKING WELL.
ARE WE, ARE WE DONE WITH THAT? SUSTAIN SUSTAINABLE WEST, SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, DAN, WE WE'RE ONLY TWO MINUTES BEHIND, RIGHT? I'M KEEPING TRACK TOO.
HI FOLKS, HOW ARE YOU? HOW'S IT GOING? GOOD, DAN.
DAN, YOU HAVE NINE MINUTES ON
AND IF YOU CAN PULL IT A LITTLE CLOSER AND I, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE A BIG POWERPOINT OR ANYTHING 'CAUSE WE'VE PRETTY MUCH BEEN THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT I'LL JUST SORT OF UPDATE WHERE WE ARE.
YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST TWO, THREE WEEKS WE'VE BEEN GOING OUT IN FRONT OF THE 24 MUNICIPALITIES AND THEY'RE ALL SIGNED ON NOW TO THE NEW, UH, BIDDING.
M O U, UH, EXCEPT, UH, NICK, MY COLLEAGUE IS GOING TO SLEEPING HALL TONIGHT AND I'M IN RIOT TOMORROW.
AND, AND THEN, UH, GREENBERG, SO THAT'S JUST BY WAY OF UPDATE.
WE WERE TARGETING A, UM, UH, THE BIDDING FOR FRIDAY.
WE MAY MAKE IT SLIP A COUPLE DAYS BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL STUFF AROUND DATA SUBMISSION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IT'S, IT'S COMING UP AND AS, UH, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO MAKE CLEAR, UM, YOU, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE M O U IN ORDER FOR THE, THE BIDDERS TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE BID AND SAY, OKAY, I'M GONNA INCLUDE YOU GUYS.
'CAUSE THERE'S THAT, THAT COMMITMENT IF I AM AWARDED, YOU KNOW.
SO, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE.
YOU, YOU, UH, HAVE THE, UM, UPDATED M O U IN HAND AND AS, UH, DESCRIBED LAST TIME, IT'S, UH, FOLLOWS THE FAME FORMAT, EXCEPT ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IS THE, IS THE, UM, THAT PRICE NOT TO EXCEED CAP HAS BEEN REMOVED IN FAVOR OF, UH, UM, BEST RESPONSIVE, LOWEST RESPONSIVE BED.
UM, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE AT THE MOMENT.
SO WE'RE HERE TO, I DON'T KNOW, JOE, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE NEW M I O I HAVE NOT.
HAVE YOU MET JOE? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
JOE DANKO AND CONGRATULATIONS TO TIM.
YEAH, I I WILL REVIEW THAT THOUGH.
OKAY, SO WHAT DO WE NEED IN TERMS OF TURNAROUND TIME? YEAH, WE NEED, WHAT'S OUR, WHAT'S OUR TIMING ISSUES MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, I GUESS.
SEE, YOU'VE GOT A, A, A REGULAR SESSION TOMORROW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT THEN BEYOND THAT IT'S IN, I FORGET WHEN THE NEXT, NEXT TUESDAY IS THE WORK SESSION.
SO, UH, AS I SAID, WE COULD BE PUSHING THE SOLICIT, THE, THE BID SUBMISSION DATE OUT TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AT THIS POINT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WAS WHERE YOU GUYS WANTED TO GO, IF YOU COULD TAKE ACTION ON THAT DAY, IF TOMORROW WAS LIKE TOO SOON OR WHATEVER MM-HMM.
SO LET'S EARMARK TUESDAY WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
SO ALL THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT WERE IN THE GROUP ARE STAYING IN THE GROUP EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T HAVE A CAP.
WITH THE EXCEPTION IS, I, I RISE TOMORROW.
THEY ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH, SO WE FIND OUT WHERE THEY ARE AND SLEEPY HOLLOWS TONIGHT.
BUT YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT? NO, NO INDICATION AT THIS POINT ANYWAY.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK.
IF IT'S TUESDAY THEN, THEN I WOULD LOOK MAYBE TO PUSH THE BED TO WEDNESDAY.
IF YOU COULD GET THE SIGNED DOCUMENT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING ON, ON WEDNESDAY IF YOU MAKE THE DECISION ON TUESDAY.
WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS TO PUT THE DOCUMENTS UP ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW NIGHT SO THAT IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THEM, THEY CAN MAKE THEM, BUT WE WOULDN'T VOTE UNTIL TUESDAY.
NEXT ON AGENDA, UM, UH, YOU SCHWARTZ, UH, AND WALTER SIMON ASKED, UH,
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TO MEET WITH US TO DISCUSS, UM, UM, CREATING LIKE A TASK FORCE THAT UM, WOULD WORK ON, UH, SUSTAINABLE ENERGY AND, YOU KNOW, DRIFTING LAWS AND STRATEGIES ON AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, HOUSING AND THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH THE TOWN BOARD.SHOULD WE SCHEDULE SCHEDULE THEM, RIGHT? SURE, SURE.
JUST LET'S NOT DO IT THE DAY BEFORE A TOWN BOARD MEETING.
SO MAYBE, WHICH IS NOT TOO HARD TO DO 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER TIME.
BUT UNTIL 10TH, I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR HEAR OR HAVE HUGH AND WALTER WITH REGARD TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HUGH AND WALTER TALK WITH COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON.
UH, WITH REGARD TO HER EFFORTS BEFORE WE TALK TO THEM AS A GROUP, SO THAT ANY SYNERGY THAT EXISTS BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND WHAT SHE'S DOING CAN BE THE TOPIC OF THAT MEETING RATHER THAN WILLY-NILLY.
BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE THAT WE NEEDED FOUR WAYS.
I SAW YOU SAW THAT YOU MENTIONED ME.
WE'LL SET SOMETHING UP WITH, WITH WALTER AND, AND HUG.
WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE GIVE THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS THEN? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF WE DO HAVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD INCLUDE THE COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN WORKING DURING THE PAST YEAR BECAUSE UH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT THEM TO TALK.
OKAY, NEXT, UH, HALL, YOU HAVE, UH, WELL WAIT A MINUTE.
SO WITH TO OUR SUSTAINABLE ENERGY COMMITTEE, SINCE THAT'S A SEPARATE THING, RIGHT? RIGHT.
HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH THAT? WELL, WE HAVE TO ARRANGE TO MEET WITH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA INVITE THEM TO, OKAY.
SO WHY DON'T WE GIVE HIM A COUPLE OF WEEKS JUST TRYING TO BE CLEAR SO THEY CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS.
SO YEAH, SO WE, I'LL GET WITH, UM, MR. SIMON AND UM, OKAY, MR.
OKAY, SO HOW WE, YOU'LL BE NEXT WEEK.
WE'RE LIMITING EVERYTHING TODAY TO 10 MINUTES.
UM, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT AND WE'RE ON TURN HERE.
WE HAVE A VERY LONG EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU DAR, WE'RE GOOD.
NONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ARE CONTROVERSIAL IN ANY WAY.
AND THEY HAVE TO DO WITH HOW THE TOWN BOARD IN RECENT YEARS HAS MOVED MORE AND MORE TOWARDS PREVENTING THE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM HAPPENING.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I DISCUSS ARE VERY SIMPLE.
SOME OF THEM ARE A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX.
NONE OF THEM COST THE TOWN MUCH.
AND THE REALITY IS DO YOU WANT TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC OR NOT? YOUR AGENDA SAYS YOU DO.
GREENBURG TOWN BOARD APPRECIATES COMMENTS FROM RESIDENTS THAT IT'S OPEN MEETINGS.
OUR GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN A ROBUST AND CONSTRUCTIVE DI DIALOGUE.
WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THIS TOWN CONTINUES TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS, SO IT SEEMS PERFECTLY REASONABLE THE THINGS THAT I'M PROPOSING YOU WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL.
ZOOM CONFERENCING, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WHEN YOU PUT OUT AGENDAS TO YOUR MEETINGS AND YOU ARE GOING FORWARD WITH ZOOM, YOU CAN'T PUT ON THE AGENDA THAT THE MEETING IS AVAILABLE ON ZOOM AND THE CONTACT INFORMATION, WHAT IF THEY GAVE A AWARD AND NOBODY CAME? THAT'S THE IDEA.
AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE BROUGHT ANY OF THESE THINGS TO YOUR ATTENTION.
ALSO, I WOULD LIKE THAT SINCE YOU HAVE DONE MEETINGS ON ZOOM, THAT THEY SHOULD APPEAR ARCHIVED ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, LIKE ALL THE OTHERS.
THAT MAY COME AS A SHOCK TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE HELD MEETINGS AND NEVER SUSPECTED THAT THEY WOULD BE SEEN BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AND YOU HAVE THESE MEETINGS ALREADY ON ZOOM, LET'S PROCEED TO MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, JUST LIKE YOUR BROADCAST MEETINGS, TOWN BOARD MEETINGS, AND APPARENTLY YOU STARTED ON TIME TODAY AND EVEN AHEAD, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS TOWN BOARD ARRANGES ITS OWN TIME FOR MEETINGS, TOWN BOARD MEETINGS TO START AND WORK SESSIONS TO START.
SO IT'S YOURSELVES WHO WORK RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IF YOU SET A TIME WHY YOU CAN'T START THE MEETING AT THAT TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO SIT AROUND WAITING FOR YOU TO ATTEND YOUR OWN MEETING THAT YOU DECLARED WHEN IT STARTS.
AS WELL AS NOT ONLY THE PUBLIC, BUT PEOPLE WHO YOU CALL UPON AS
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CONSULTANTS OR WHATEVER BEFORE YOU AND TOWN EMPLOYEES HAVE TO SPEND THEIR TIME WAITING FOR THE MEETING TO START.PUBLIC COMMENT IS VALUABLE TO THE TOWN BOARD.
YOU GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
YOU ALSO GET TO PROMOTE THAT YOU'RE AN OPEN GOVERNMENT BY LOOK.
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THE WAY THAT YOU GO ABOUT IT IS ALL WRONG.
WE USED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IN TWO SEC SEGMENTS OF REGULAR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, FIVE MINUTES TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AND THREE MINUTES AT THE END.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE ELIMINATING THREE MINUTES AT THE END, BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM THAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWING THE FULL FIVE MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC TO MAKE COMMENT.
INSTEAD, IF YOU WANT THE TOWN BOARD TO ENGAGE IN THAT DIALOGUE THAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT HAS TO COME FROM THE PUBLIC SACRIFICING THEIR FIVE MINUTES.
HOW MANY OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS, EITHER THE TOWN BOARD WHEN THEY INTRODUCED LEGISLATION OR THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE FOR PRESENTATIONS ARE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES.
SO WHY IS THE PUBLIC WHO, YOU KNOW, YOU WORK FOR US, THE PUBLIC, NOT FOR THE TOWN BOARD.
SO WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO STOP THE PUBLIC FROM EXPRESSING ITSELF IN A MANNER AND GET A DIALOGUE ON TOP OF THAT? IT'S ALL INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO AND DON'T GIVING NOTICE OF THE MEETING.
NOW THIS IS A BIG DEAL TO ME BECAUSE I CAN'T UNDERSTAND.
WE HAVE A WEBSITE WHICH RUNS FAIRLY EFFICIENTLY AND ON THE WEBSITE IS A LIST OF ALL THE MEETINGS UNDER AGENDAS AND MEETINGS.
WHAT AN UNUSUAL PLACE FOR IT TO BE.
WHAT WE DO NOT HAVE IS ALL THE BOARDS PARTICIPATING, EVEN TO THE EXTENT OF EVEN LISTING THEIR MEETINGS.
THE BIG WHALE IN THIS SITUATION FOR ME AT LEAST IS PARKS AND RECREATION.
HERE'S A DEPARTMENT WHICH SPENDS OVER $6 MILLION OF TAXPAYER MONEY.
THEY HAVE A MEMBER ADVISORY BOARD OF 16 TO 18 MEMBERS.
THE MEETINGS ARE HELD NOT IN TOWN HALL, WHICH IS ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC BY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BUT OVER VETERAN PARK WHERE THERE IS NONE.
AND YET THEIR MEETINGS AREN'T EVEN ON THE AGENDAS IN MEETINGS, MUCH LESS PARENTS OF THE AGENDA, MUCH LESS DO YOU BROADCAST THEM.
WHY IS THAT? POLICE ADVISORY BOARD, THE POLICE ARE IN ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE.
I'M NOT TAKING A POSITION ON THAT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE IS A POLICE ADVISORY BOARD.
WHY ISN'T THE PUBLIC ALLOWED TO KNOW ABOUT THESE MEETINGS EVEN ON AGENDAS AND AND MINUTES? WHERE ARE THE MINUTES FROM THESE MEETINGS? NOW, NONE OF THESE ISSUES I CONSIDER TO BE PARTICULARLY CONTROVERSIAL.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE ISSUES WHICH ARE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT THE REALITY IS THE BASE OF ALL THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS KEEPING THE PUBLIC INFORMED AND ENGAGING IN A DIALOGUE WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES BEFORE YOU.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS ONCE UPON A TIME YOU USED TO HAVE DIAL DEMOCRACY, YOU WERE VERY PROUD OF THAT, MR. FINER.
AND THEN IT GAVE WAY TO ABILITY TO HAVE THE TOWN CLERK READ YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU COULD NOT ATTEND.
AND MANY PEOPLE CANNOT ATTEND FOR VERY LEGITIMATE REASONS OR THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH ZOOM.
I LIKE TO GO BACK TO HAVING THE TOWN CLERK READ THESE MINUTES.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM LIMITING THE TOWN CLERK TO READING FOR FIVE MINUTES, BUT WHY ARE YOU DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO DISCOURAGE PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT AS AN ISSUE OF DEMOCRACY, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS TOWN SINCE THE YEAR 2000 AND ALL I HAVE IS SEEN IS TAKING AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC AND MOVING IT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THEREFORE, THE THINGS ON YOUR AGENDA AT THIS WORK SESSION, WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? WHERE THEY DISCUSSED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEY FINALLY MADE IT OUT TO HERE? YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER YOURSELF RESPONSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
AND A BIG PART OF THAT IS, I KNOW YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE NO ONE COVERS THESE MEETINGS IN THE MEDIA ANYMORE, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO EASE INTO THIS POSITION.
BUT THE REALITY IS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWING THE PUBLIC ITS PROPER PLACE.
PART OF IT IS EVEN A REQUIREMENT.
PUBLIC HEARINGS, SAME THINGS THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT IN GENERAL, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IF YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OF THE TOWN BOARD AND THEN ENGAGE IN A DIALOGUE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU HAVE TO SACRIFICE YOUR
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FIVE MINUTES TO GET THE TOWN BOARD TO RESPOND.AND IF THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS DO RESPOND AND DO NOT RESPOND ACTUALLY TO THE QUESTION, BUT SPEND THEIR TIME TALKING, YOU CAN'T INFORM THE PUBLIC WATCHING THAT THEY DIDN'T RESPOND BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE OUT OF ORDER.
NOW, HAS ANY OF WHAT I SAID MADE SENSE? AND IF SO, ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? THAT'S THE CLUE FOR DIALOGUE.
I'LL BE REVIEWING ALL THESE AND THERE'S MANY SUGGESTIONS YOU MADE THAT YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP.
I I LIKE THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, OF THE, UH, AGENDA, YOU KNOW, AGENDAS AND, YOU KNOW, BEING DISTRIBUTED IN ADVANCE, UH, BY ALL THE COMMITTEES, UH, UH, THE MINUTES.
UH, I THINK, I THINK YOU MADE SOME VALID POINTS AND I'LL, I WILL, I'LL STUDY THIS AND I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP AND GET BACK TO YOU.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I HOPE YOU'RE SINCERE ON THIS.
I ASKED SINCERE WELL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO ANYONE WHO'S WATCHING, AND I THIS MAY BE AGGRESSIVE ON MY PART, THE THINGS I SAYING HERE IN PUBLIC ARE NOT THINGS THAT I HAVE NOT COMMUNICATED TO YOU BY EMAIL VIEW THE TOWN BOARD MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR AND HAVE RECEIVED NO VALUE FROM IT.
SO I HOPE YOU ARE BEING SINCERE THAT NOW THAT YOU ARE BEING RECORDED, BECAUSE IF YOU AREN'T, YOU DO COMING BACK.
I, I THINK ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, YOU HAVE SOMEONE ADVISORY, UH, BOARD, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO KNOW WHAT THE DISCUSSIONS ARE AND KNOW WHAT THE PLUSES AND MINUSES ARE FROM, FROM ALL THESE COMMITTEE, FROM ALL THE COMMITTEES.
I THINK, I THINK THIS COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, HELPFUL.
SOMETIMES IT COULD GET A, A GOOD IDEA OR EVEN IF SOMEBODY VOTES, NO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY AFTER YOU, YOU HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK.
AND NONE OF US COULD ATTEND EVERY MEETING OF EVERY ADVISORY BOARD.
SO I THINK THAT, I THINK THESE ARE CONSTRUCTIVE SUGGESTIONS.
WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DO HAVE LIAISONS TO THE LIBRARY BOARD, WHICH MEET ONCE A MONTH ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
SHE CAN'T ATTEND BECAUSE SHE'S HERE.
THIS ISN'T PART OF YOUR REORG.
BUT THE REALITY IS, INSTEAD OF MAKING IT AS GENERAL I'D LIKE YOU TO DEAL WITH, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE TWO BOARDS THAT AFFECT WHAT'S GOING ON IN GREENBURG TODAY, PARKS AND REC AND THE POLICE ADVISORY BOARD, WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT GETTING THEM ON THE WEBPAGE, WHICH ALREADY EXISTS, WHICH I'VE GIVEN YOU A COPYRIGHT THEREOF THAT SHOWS THEY'RE NOT ON IT.
I'LL FOLLOW IT UP AND GIVE YOU
MR. SAM, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE TABLE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR COMMENTS, SHARING YOUR PERSPECTIVE, AND, UM, AND RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, COMMENTS FROM RESIDENTS BE READ.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, THE EXPOSURE PROGRAM, UH, RECENTLY GOT, UM, SOME MA AWARDS.
UM, AND I WAS THINKING OF, UH, I WAS SPEAKING TO JUDITH.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH RAY THOMAS AND I'M WONDERING IF THE BOARD WOULD BE OPEN TO A MODIFIED EXPOSURE PROGRAM.
UH, WHEN, UH, YEARS AGO THEY HAD THE EXPOSURE PROGRAM, AND IT WAS, THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM WAS A LARGE PROGRAM, AND THE THEATER, YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER SAID THE RESIDENTS, THE, THE CHILDREN AT, IN FAIRVIEW, THEY REALLY NEEDED HOMEWORK, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS, BUT EXPOSURE.
THEY HAD AN AMAZING, UH, COMMUNICATIONS EFFORT WHERE, UH, THEY HAD A RADIO PROGRAM, UH, FOR, FOR STUDENTS.
THERE WERE LIKE 10, 11 YEAR OLDS WHO HAD THEIR OWN RADIO SHOW.
THEY DID IT FROM THE TOWN HALL, AND IT WAS FANTASTIC.
UH, THEY HAD EXPERIENCE TRAINING PEOPLE, UM, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH EXPOSURE.
SO ALL I'M SAYING IS I HAD ASKED MR. THOMAS IF HE COULD COME UP WITH A PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER.
THAT WOULD BE LIMITED TO MAYBE 15, 20 KIDS THAT WOULD PREPARE KIDS FOR SAY, EMMY AWARD TRAINING.
WELL, AND WE HAD A WHOLE GROUP OF STUDENTS WHO WERE EMMY AWARD WINNERS.
SO WHERE WOULD IT BE HOUSED AND WHERE, WHO WOULD PAY FOR IT? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, SUGGESTING THAT IN AN UPCOMING, YOU KNOW, BUDGET MM-HMM.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD WE, SO WE WOULD BE COMING UP WITH A NEW BUDGET
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LINE FOR, FOR 2023 AND WHERE, WHERE WOULD THE PROGRAM BE RUN OUT OF? IT COULD BE RUN OUT OF, UH, COULD BE RUN OUT OF HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE C THEY USED TO DO IT AT THE CAFETERIA, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.IT COULD BE, MAYBE THEY WOULD DO IT OUT OF SCHOOL OR THEY COULD DO IT AT, THEY, A YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER.
THERE'S NO ROOM AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE F I'M THINKING OF VERY LIMITED, LIKE 15 TO 20 KIDS AND NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UM, A MAJOR, YOU KNOW, BUDGET ITEM.
AND ALSO I WOULD LOOK AT POSSIBLE GRANTS, UH, TO, TO POSSIBLY FUND IT, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO PURSUE THIS IF THE BOARD WAS, YOU KNOW, VERY NEGATIVE.
BUT I, I JUST THINK IT'S A, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
WHAT WE GOTTA DO IS, LET'S SEE, LET'S SEE, LET'S SAY SOMETHING, BUT YOU ASKED HIM FOR A PROPOSAL.
DID HE GIVE YOU A PROPOSAL? YOU ASKED HIM FOR A PROPOSAL.
DID HE GIVE YOU THE PROPOSAL? NO.
WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET THE PROPOSAL WITH HIM TOO, BUT, SO THAT'S, SO WE, LET'S JUST REVIEW.
UH, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE REESTABLISHMENT OF THE M I S COMMITTEE.
SO, UH, WE HAVE C CLICK FIX AND OTHER SOFTWARE COMPANIES, UM, THAT WE'RE USING.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM WHAT THE M I S COMMITTEE USED TO DO WHEN IT MET, BUT IT STOPPED MEETING FOR SOME REASON OR OTHER, PROBABLY THE PANDEMIC, UM, LOOKING AT SOFTWARE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT INTEGRATES WITH OUR EXISTING SOFTWARE AND, UH, CAN BE USED ACROSS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
SO I'M PROPOSING THAT WE REVISE WHAT WORKED REALLY WELL FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND I, I THINK, I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC HAD STOPPED, BUT IT MAY HAVE BEEN BEFORE THAT.
UH, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THE M I S COMMITTEE THAT WE GOT UNICITY AND EUNICE, WHICH IS NOW BEING USED ACROSS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, AND THEY, UM, AND IT'S WORKED OUT WELL BECAUSE NOW ONE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO CONVERT THEIR DATA IN ORDER TO GIVE IT TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, OR EVEN WORSE, RETYPE IN DATA.
AND SO, UM, I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE THAT, UM, WE PUT THAT COMMITTEE TOGETHER OF, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TECHNICAL PEOPLE WHO, UH, ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS.
WERE YOU THE LIAISON AT THE M I S COMMITTEE? WHAT'D YOU THINK?
UM, FRANCE, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
UM, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE MEMBERS OF THE M I S COMMITTEE, HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO RECONVENE OR DO WE SET SOMETHING UP, KNOW WITH NEW PEOPLE? I KNOW THAT, WELL, THIS CAME OUT OF A DISCUSSION, UH, WITH ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS, UH, REGARDING, UH, SOME SOFTWARE AND THEY DON'T THINK THAT, AND IT'S CCL FIX, UH, THAT USES, UM, UM, CIVIC PLUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND HE'S NOT SO SURE WE SHOULD STAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T INTEGRATE WELL WITH OUR EXISTING SOFTWARE.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE USING CCL FIX, UH, THAT DATA BASICALLY COMES INTO US AND THEN WE HAVE TO PUT IT INTO OUR OWN SYSTEM, AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT WORKS BETTER.
NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT.
SO HE'S THE ONE ACTUALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I SAID TO HIM, WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD START UP THE M I S AND HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
DEEPAK, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE MIGHT AS WELL DRAW ON HIS KNOWLEDGE UNTIL, UM, YOU KNOW, UNTIL HE RETIRES.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE SUGGESTION.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.
THEY DO THAT AT MY ORGANIZATION, SO THEY TAKE A LOOK AT, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY DEPARTMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WE NEED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
SO A LOT OF GOOD CAME OUT OF IT.
THE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, PARKS WOULD BUY THE BEST SOFTWARE FOR PARKS AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE, THE WATER DEPARTMENT WOULD BUY THE BEST SOFTWARE FOR WATER DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT DOES SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, SOFTWARE THAT DOESN'T HAVE TREMENDOUS BELLS AND WIGGLE, UH, WHISTLES FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT, BUT IT WORKS VERY WELL AND IT TALKS TO EACH, THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER, AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, ITY AND, UH, EUNICE.
NEXT, UM, UH, FOLLOW UP ON LEE.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A PICTURE THAT I'VE NEVER BEEN KNOWN TO BET.
MOSTLY FOCUSED, COME ON THE LASER FISH.
SO WHERE, SO FOR THE RECORD, UM, I JUST WANT TO DOCUMENT THE FACT THAT DEEPAK PANIA, WHO IS THE
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DEPARTMENT HEAD OF THE M I SS DEPARTMENT, AND ALSO A CRITICAL ELEMENT AND PART OF THE M I SS COMMITTEE, HE WAS CONSULTED, I CONSULTED HIM WITH REGARDS TO LASER FISH AND THE FOIL MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.AND HE WAS A PART OF EVERY MEETING WITH THE CONSULTANTS, AND HE APPROVED BOTH OF THOSE SOFTWARES.
NOW, THE LASER FISH SOFTWARE HAS BEEN HERE IN THE TOWN.
UM, THE LASER FISH SOFTWARE HAS EXISTED FOR ALMOST 28 YEARS.
IT WAS INITIALLY BROUGHT TO THE TOWN BY, UH, SUSAN TOLSON, WHO WAS THE TOWN CLERK HERE BEFORE ALFRED WILLIAMS, AND SHE WENT ON TO BECOME ASSISTANT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, I MEAN, UM, COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
SO WE HAVE HAD LASER FEES HERE FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.
WE NEED THE UPDATED VERSION OF LASER FEES.
AND EVERY YEAR THE, UM, CLERK'S OFFICE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE NEW YORK STATE ARCHIVES TO RECOMMEND A DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE TOWN TO TARGET FOR AS RECIPIENT.
AS A RECIPIENT OF A GRANT, I COULD VERY EASILY SAY, NO, I DON'T WANNA SHARE THE WEALTH, I WANT THE GRANT MONEY TO COME TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE ONLY.
HOWEVER, DURING THE COURSE OF MY TENURE, I HAVE EMPOWERED OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN LASER FEES WITH, WHICH IS A RECORDS STORAGE, LONG-TERM RECORD STORAGE SOFTWARE.
THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF LASER FISH, AND WE JUST RECEIVED A GRANT FROM LASER FISH FROM DEPARTMENT, I'M SORRY, FROM NEW YORK CITY ARCHIVES TO EXPAND ALSO TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
SO THAT'S GOING TO DECREASE SIGNIFICANTLY THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS, IS REQUIR.
SO WHAT WOULD REQUIRING WOULD BE THE AMOUNT, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW.
IT, IT WOULD BE LESS BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE RECEIVED A $70,000 GRANT, AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WAS PROPOSED FOR SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS WAS 52,000.
SO WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, HOW MUCH IS REALLY GOING TOWARDS, UM, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONSERVATION AND, UM, HOW MUCH CAN BE APPLIED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
BUT MY POINT IS THAT, UH, GOING BACK TO THE M I S, THE, THE, THE RATIONALE FOR THE M I S COMMITTEE, I JUST WANT IT TO BE KNOWN AND DOCUMENTED THAT OUR DIRECTOR OF M I S APPROVED BOTH LASER FISH UPGRADE AND THE FOIL MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT I AM REQUESTING.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? SURE.
SINCE, UH, THE M I, SINCE WE ARE HAVING THE M I S COMMITTEE AND THE HEAD OF THE M I S COMMITTEE IS, UM, IS SOMEBODY WHO'S FAMILIAR WITH THIS, WHY DON'T WE, UM, UH, ASK THE M I S COMMITTEE, UH, TO PROVIDE THE TOWN BOARD WITH A REPORT IN TWO WEEKS? UM, UH, OR, AND THIS WAY, AND THIS WAY WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AND WE WON'T JUST KEEP DELAYING IT, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A DECISION ONE WAY OR THE ANOTHER, AND THEN YOU COULD GIVE US BE GIVE US BE BEFORE, UH, THAT TIME, UM, UH, UH, A FINAL BUDGET.
SO IF IT'S MUCH LESS, ROBERTA WILL BE HAPPY AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, MESS UP OUR, YOU KNOW, BUDGET CYCLE AND THEN WE COULD TAKE ACTION WITHIN TWO, WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
UH, OH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, PAUL.
HOWEVER, I JUST WANNA SAY THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, UPGRADING SOFTWARE IN THE TOWN SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT MAKING SOMEONE HAPPY OR SOMEONE NOT BEING HAPPY.
THIS IS A NECESSITY TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS.
AGAIN, WE'VE HAD THE LASER FEE SOFTWARE, SO, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO SEPARATE COMPONENTS TO THIS.
ONE IS THE NEED TO UPGRADE THE CURRENT SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS USED PRIMARILY BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
GARRETT'S DEPARTMENT, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OF CONSERVATION, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, CONSERVATION IS GOING TO RECEIVE THE LATEST VERSION.
NO, I JUST WANNA SAY THIS, THE BOTTOM LINE, PAUL, HAS TO DO WITH DECISION BY THE BOARD.
THE BOARD MADE THE DECISION FOR MUNIS TO BE INSTALLED TOWN WIDE.
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THE BOARD HAS TO MAKE A DECISION FOR LASER FISH TO BE INSTALLED TOWN WIDE OR TO GRANT THE DOLLARS NEEDED FOR UPGRADES BY THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THEM.NO, WELL, I'M SAYING, OH, WELL, I'M SAYING IS THAT WE, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE HERE.
YOU REFER THIS TO M I S AND TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WE'LL GET A REPORT AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION.
SO THAT'S BECAUSE I, I, SO THE DECISION, WE HAVE A VERY LONG, UH, I UNDERSTAND.
SO THE DECISION SHOULD BE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S INSTALLED TOWN Y WE'RE DISAGREEING OR THE UPGRADE FOR THE DEPARTMENT SET.
WE'RE NOT DISAGREEING THE SOFTWARE, WE'RE NOT DISAGREEING.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE A DECISION WITHIN TWO WEEKS AND THAT THAT'S IT.
THEN NEXT WE HAVE A FOIL MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.
IT'S A FOIL MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE'S FINE.
THAT, UM, IS, IS GREATLY NEEDED TO HELP MANAGE AND AGAIN, UPGRADE OUR FOIL MANAGEMENT AND, UM, AGAIN, IMPROVE ON SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS, TO OUR PUBLIC.
IS THAT ALSO AN UPGRADE? NO, THAT WOULD BE A NEW SOFTWARE.
UM, HOWEVER, YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS NOT HAD ANY NEW SOFTWARE SINCE 2012.
WE'RE GONNA DO THIS WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION TWO.
SECOND FOR THE PURPOSE, FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE OF VARIOUS MATTERS.
WE'RE NOT COMING BACK THIS EVENING.