[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL Agenda THURSDAY, July 14, 2022 – 6:30 P.M. ]
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SO, OOPS, MY SCREEN, JUST, MY SCREEN JUST WENT BACK TO MY OFF OF THIS AND ONTO MY REGULAR SCREEN.
IT WAS LIKE, WHERE DID EVERYBODY GO? SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE IS OUR MINUTES AND I HAVE A QUESTION.
I WAS TRYING TO, I THINK YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB, LIZ, BUT I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE ADDED, DID WE DISCUSS THAT MANY THINGS ABOUT WHAT WE PUT IN THE LETTER FOR ELMWOOD AT THE MEETING? NO, I DON'T THINK WE DID.
SO CAN YOU KIND OF REPHRASE THAT AND JUST, I KNOW WE DID, UM, I KNOW YOU DEFINITELY, YOU HAD MADE THE SUGGESTION ON, UH, USING GEOTHERMAL.
GEOTHERMAL, AND I THINK WE MENTIONED SOLAR.
WE MADE IT, I THINK WE MENTIONED THE FLOODING.
SO I THINK MAYBE TAKE IT DOWN AND DO LIKE THE BOTTOM ONE.
'CAUSE WHAT WE AGREED WAS THAT WE WOULD WORK ON IT.
AND WITH THAT, I WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS AND PARTICULARLY NANCY, WHO DID A HUGE AMOUNT OF VERY RESEARCH VERY QUICKLY ON, UM, THE IMPACTS OF GROWING MARIJUANA ENVIRONMENTALLY.
'CAUSE THAT WAS QUITE AN EYE-OPENER, THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY INVOLVED AND THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING A WASTE TO DEAL WITH.
SO I, I SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO NANCY 'CAUSE THAT WAS A LOT OF RESEARCH REALLY QUICKLY.
AND I THANK YOU AND, AND I THANK EVERYONE THROUGH THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS AND READING THE LETTERS.
BUT I, I THINK WE, IF WE PROBABLY COULD CHANGE THE, CHANGE THE MINUTES TOMORROW.
I'LL TRY AND DO IT TONIGHT, IF NOT TOMORROW.
AND THEN JUST IF YOU SEND THEM, SEND THEM A WORD RATHER THAN IN, UM, AN EMAIL.
SO THAT WAY WHEN THEY GO ON TO, UM, YOU DON'T NORMALLY DO THEM AN EMAIL.
YOU DON'T NORMALLY DO THEM IN WORD OR SOMETHING, DON'T YOU? YEAH.
UM, THAT WAY WHEN THEY HAVE TO POST THEM, IT'S EASIER FOR THEM.
SO I HA DO I HAVE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES WITH THE CHA SUGGESTED CHANGES? SO MOVED.
UH, ANYONE A SECOND? GEORGE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A WETLANDS PERMIT TONIGHT, WHICH IS SORT OF NICE.
WE GET, FORGET TO ACTUALLY HAVE A LEISURELY MEETING.
UM, I THINK THE BIG THING WITH ELWOOD IS WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE, HOW THE TOWN IS GOING TO ISSUE ITS, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT WILL BE PUT FORTH.
UH, WHEN THEY DO THE APPROVAL.
UM, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE MADE.
I THINK THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE GOT SOMETHING OUT THERE VERY QUICKLY.
UM, SO IT'S BEING, IF NOTHING ELSE, WE'VE SORT OF PUT THE IDEA OUT THERE.
AND IN THIS CASE, WE WILL GET A SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE BECAUSE, UM, THERE REALLY ISN'T A SITE PLAN.
SO WHEN THE DEVELOPER COMES IN, HE'LL DO A FULL BLOWN SITE PLAN THAT'LL HAVE TO BE APPROVED AND THAT'LL GIVE US ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PUT FORTH THOSE IDEAS THAT ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE THERE.
YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY LEAST THEY OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT INCLUDING THEM.
UM, I SUSPECT THE GEOTHERMAL THAT RIGHT NOW EVERYONE'S KIND OF BLINKING AT WHEN THEY FIND OUT THEY CAN'T GET THE GAS HOOKUP, IT MIGHT SEEM VERY ATTRACTIVE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO COME FORWARD.
UM, WE GOT, AND I THINK I FORWARDED ONTO, OR UM, AARON SENT IT TO EVERYBODY, UM, A WHOLE LIST OF LOVELY SITES FOR, UM, TO PUT ON OUR WEBPAGE.
AND I KNOW THAT DONNA HAD SENT US SOME, I KIND OF WANNA HOLD OFF ON THAT UNTIL DONNA'S HERE, BUT I, I GOT THE SENSE FROM, FROM AARON THAT HE HAD SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY GOOD, BUT IT WASN'T QUITE READY.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NANCY HAD FOLLOWED UP ON, WHICH AGAIN, I THANK NANCY, WAS WE HAD LIKED SOMETHING ON ANOTHER, UH, ORGANIZATION SITE.
UM, AND SHE CHECKED WITH THEM AND THEY SAID WE COULD USE IT.
SO WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW WE CAN HAVE THAT POSTED.
IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE HAVE, SEE IF WE CAN GET PAUL TO DO A, UM, AN E-BLAST WITH SINCE WE NOW HAVE PERMISSION TO USE IT, WHICH IS GOOD.
UM, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS ABOUT, UM, INVASIVE SPECIES AND IT HAD PICTURES.
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GRAPHIC, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IF YOU SAY TO PEOPLE, PULL OUT THE INVASIVE SPECIES, WELL, MOST PEOPLE DON'T.BUT SOME OF SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
SO IT'S LIKE I, I HAD THEM, I HAD 'EM, I HAD NO IDEA.
AND AND THEY, THEY, THEY JUST, THEY, AND EVEN IF YOU GET RID OF THEM, THEY COME BACK.
I MEAN, AS YOU SAID, THEY JUST, THEY JUST SHOW UP.
'CAUSE THE BIRDS DROP THE SEEDS AND THEN, AND YOU END UP WITH THEM.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO WORK ON GETTING THAT.
GEORGE, DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING MORE ABOUT, UM, OH, I'M SORRY.
DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING MORE? NO, NO, NO.
UM, GEORGE, DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING MORE ABOUT MARION WOODS? YEAH, YOU'RE, YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT GEORGE.
AND OF COURSE WITH THE, UM, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE CANNABIS THING, AGAIN, WE GOT THE NOTE OUT AND IT WAS, I THOUGHT, UM, WE DID A GOOD JOB ON THAT.
I THINK IF NOTHING ELSE, IT'S REALLY, UM, IT IS SOMETHING THE PLANNING BOARD IS ALSO LOOKING AT THAT THE, I DON'T THINK ANYONE, AND EVIDENTLY AT THE STATE LEVEL, THEY NEVER RESEARCHED THIS.
THE FACT THAT THIS IS SUCH A, AN ENERGY HOG TO PRODUCE CANNABIS COMMERCIALLY AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF IT.
AT THE, AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, UM, YES.
I THINK IT WAS, UM, BASICALLY THAT SOME ARTICLES WERE SENT AROUND TO THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, I THINK FROM GARRETT.
AND I'M VERY CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THOSE WERE OR ARE.
WE DID GET A NICE THANK YOU FOR THE WHOLE GROUP THAT YOU, YOU PUT TOGETHER.
OH, I SENT THOSE ON TO THE TOWN BOARD.
YOUR, YOUR COLLECTION OF ARTICLES.
I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S DONE THAT'S FINISHED PROPERLY YET, BUT, OKAY.
AND I, AND I GUESS THIS IS, EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT VIEW ON THIS, BUT BE AWARE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THE, UM, LOOK HOW GREAT LOCATION OF THE DISTRIBUTION SITES, THE SALES SITES, BOTH, BOTH, UM, BOTH FOR, UH, RECREATIONAL USE AND MEDICAL USE FOR THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS A VERY RESTRICTED LOCATIONS.
AND THE PLANNING BOARD DID RECOMMEND TO PRETTY MUCH PUT IT ANYWHERE.
UM, THAT'S NOT OUR PRO THING, BUT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN COMMENTING ON THAT IN, IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T KEEP KIDS FROM VAPING AND SMOKING.
SO I JUST DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE THINGS OVERLY AVAILABLE.
SO I, I'M GONNA REMIND EVERYONE, AND I HAVE BEEN REMISS.
I HAVE NOT, I HAVE NOT WATCHED MY SEXUAL HARASSMENT TRAINING, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S COME UP AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING IS, UH, WHICH IS NOT ON THE AGENDA ONLY 'CAUSE IT CAME UP WITH THE LAST MINUTE, IS THE QUESTION OF IF WE WANT TO COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED NETTING ON THE SCARSDALE GOLF COURSE.
UM, WHAT I DID FIND OUT, LIZ, AND YOU MAY KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO FROM GARRETT, IS THERE ARE TWO NETS GOING UP, ONE BY THE APARTMENT HOUSE AND ONE BY PRIVATE HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GOLF COURSE.
HOW, HOW LONG HAVE THEY, HOW LONG HAVE THEY EXISTED WITHOUT THESE NETS THAT THEY NEED 'EM ALL OF A SUDDEN? UM, I THINK, I THINK THEY PRO THEY HAD LOOKED TO PUT THEM IN ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO AND FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY DID NOT GO IN.
SO I THINK THERE IS A CONCERN OF JUST HURTING SOMEBODY WITH THE GOLF BALLS.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM GARRETT IS THE PEOPLE IN THE PRIVATE HOUSES HAVE NOT OBJECTED TO THE NETS GOING UP.
UM, THIS IS, IN TERMS OF THE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE NEAR IT, OF THE APARTMENT HOUSES, THE, THE BUILDING THAT'S CLOSEST TO WHERE THEY WOULD BE HIT WITH GOLF BALLS HAS NOT OBJECTED.
BUT IT'S THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS THAT HA AND, AND, AND A LOT OF
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THAT IS IN ALL FAIRNESS, UM, THEY MAY BE VERY SINCERELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DRILLERS, BUT I SUSPECT THEIR BIGGEST CONCERN IS THEY THINK IT TAKES FROM THEIR GOLF COURSE VIEW IN SOME WAY.SO YOU BASICALLY HAVE IS, IS THE ISSUE REALLY IS, I GUESS FOR ME, WITH WHAT YOU SENT ME, LIZ, I'M NOT SO SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE HEAVY TREES THERE, THAT THE BIRDS, YOU KNOW, THE BIRDS ARE PRETTY GOOD AT COMING TO A STOP AND THEY SEE SOMETHING AHEAD OF THEM.
'CAUSE IT ISN'T LIKE IT'S SPREAD OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE WHERE THEY'RE JUST FLYING FAST.
IT'S, IT'S, IT IS EMBEDDED IN THE TREES.
SO IS IT, IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME IF IT'S, THAT'S WHERE BIRDS OR JUST RUNNING ALONG THE TREE LINE.
BUT WHAT CONCERNED ME IS, UM, IF THE WHOLE, UM, I, FROM WHAT I'VE RESEARCHED, IF THE HOLES ARE TOO BIG, THEN THAT IS A PROBLEM.
AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUE IS, UM, BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF A BIRD SANCTUARY, I, WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS IF THOSE TREES ARE PART OF THE FLIGHT PATTERN.
LIKE WHAT I'VE READ IS THAT GOLF COURSES WHO PUT NETS IN AN AREA WHERE BIRDS DON'T NORMALLY FLY, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
BUT IF IT'S ON THE FLIGHT PATH OF A BIRD, THEN IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM.
BUT IF THEY'RE RIGHT AGAINST A BUILDING, MAYBE IT'S NOT A FLIGHT PATH.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A FLIGHT PATH.
'CAUSE LIKE ONE, I DON'T KNOW EITHER.
I WOULD THINK LIKE IF THEY SEE A BUILDING IN FRONT OF THEM, THEY'RE NOT FLYING THERE, THEY'RE GOING IN THE TREE.
THEY DEFINITELY FLY INTO THOSE TREES AND THEN THEY GO.
BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE FLIGHT PATH, THEY'RE REALLY LIKE WHEN THEY'RE REALLY MIGRATING AND WHATNOT.
AND GARRETT SAID HE, HE REACHED OUT TO THE STATE D E C AND THEY REALLY COULDN'T PROVIDE HIM WITH ANYTHING.
THEY SAID THE BIGGER ISSUE REALLY IS TALL BUILDINGS AND LIGHTS.
SO I, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, EVERY, LET'S HEAR FROM EVERYBODY ON THIS ONE.
BUT I, I THINK, AND I'M KIND OF THINKING LIKE MARGARET, IT'S LIKE, AND I, I DID THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT GARRETT SAID THEY'RE USING A VERY TIGHT MESH KIND OF THING.
SO I THINK BECAUSE THEY GENERALLY ARE AS A GOLF CLUB FROM WHAT I KNOW.
'CAUSE LIKE THEY HAVE BLUE BIRDS ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY TEND TO BE, UM, CONSCIOUS OF STUFF LIKE THIS.
THEY DON'T GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO BE OBNOXIOUS IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
I I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULDN'T PUT THE NETS UP.
I USED TO LIVE NEXT TO A GOLF COURSE AND I NEVER SAW A GOLF BALL IN MY ENTIRE TIME I LIVED THERE.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S ONLY SUPPOSITION THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE GOLF BALLS IN THEIR WAY.
AND IT'S NOT SUPPOSITION, IT'S ACCURATE FACT THAT BIRDS ARE TRYING TO LIVE THERE.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD, I'M SORRY.
I'M, I'M GETTING ALL WORKED UP.
SAY NO, I, I I REALLY THINK THAT WE HAVE TO COME OUT IN OPPOSITION TO THESE KNITS.
THERE'S NO ABSOLUTE NEED FOR THEM.
THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT THEY CAN BE COMPENSATED WHO'S GOING TO GET HURT BY A GOLF BALL THAT'S COMING SO FAR.
YOU KNOW, WHO HITS A GOLF BALL THAT HARD SO FAR THAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HURT SOMEBODY AND MORE LIKELY THAT IT MIGHT HURT A WINDOW.
A WINDOW CAN BE REPLACED, THE GOLF CLUB CAN PAY FOR IT.
BUT THE BIRDS SHOULD BE GIVEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I, I KNOW I LIVE HERE IN THE DEEP WOODS, TERRY, YOU KNOW WHERE I LIVE MM-HMM.
AND I'M NOT SEEING MANY BIRDS.
I USED TO HEAR BIRDS ALL THE TIME, ALL DIFFERENT KINDS.
OWLS, WOODPECKERS, UH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE OTHERS ARE.
BUT I'M NOT HEARING THEM AND I'M NOT SEEING THEM AND IT'S A PROBLEM.
AND WHY CREATE A GREATER PROBLEM FOR THEM BY PUTTING UP STUPID NETS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY, THAT ARE NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY IF IT WAS GONNA SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THEY WANNA DO.
UM, I, AGAIN, I ASK LIKE THEY'VE BEEN, THIS, THIS GOLF COURSE HAS BEEN THERE FOR SO LONG.
HOW COME THEY'RE DOING THIS ALL OF A SUDDEN? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? I CAN ANSWER THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE BUILDINGS WHERE THE GOLF BALLS ARE LANDING IN THEIR PARKING LOT REQUESTED THE NETTING, UH, THEY DON'T GET THE CARS HIT RIGHT
BUT I WILL SAY, WELL, I AGREE TERRY A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM BIRDS FACE ARE THE LIGHTS AND THE TALL BUILDINGS
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AND GLASS.BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE NETTING ISN'T A PROBLEM.
BUT, UM, THERE WAS A WILDLIFE PERSON THERE AND SHE ACTUALLY MADE A GREAT SUGGESTION AND THEY'VE LEFT IT OPEN FOR 10 DAYS AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO A SITE VISIT THAT WHY NOT ASK CORNELL OR ANTHOLOGY TO SEND SOMEBODY TO DO, GO ON THE SITE VISIT WITH THEM.
THAT SEEMS LIKE AN EASY, HAVE AN EXPERT.
GEORGE, DID YOU HAVE A, I'M SORRY.
DID YOU, YOU DONE LIZ? MM-HMM.
I, I THINK LIZ JUST COVERED MY AUDIO.
WHAT GONNA BE FLOATING BALLOON? SO IF WE WANNA CLOSE THE LOOK AT WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE FENCING PHYSICALLY LOOK LIKE, WHERE IT'S POSITION.
NO, I THINK, I THINK MAYBE WHAT THAT'S REALLY THE SOLUTION IS TO GET SOME EXPERTS IN.
BECAUSE I KNOW GARRETT FELT THAT WHEN HE REACHED OUT TO THE D E C, HE WASN'T GETTING ANY REALLY SOLID INFORMATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF, IT'S SORT OF HARD TO OBJECT TO SOMETHING ON, I THINK.
AND I FEEL, 'CAUSE I, I OBVIOUSLY, UM, ANY ONE OF US, ANYONE WHO SPENDS ANY TIME IN THE, UM, GARDENING OR ANYTHING ELSE IS VERY, VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THERE ARE LESS BIRDS, LESS INSECTS, LESS BUTTERFLIES.
UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS A DIMINISHING, UM, POPULATION OUT THERE, WHICH IS SCARY.
UM, AS
UH, WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY KILLING PE I AGREE WITH YOU TERRY.
YOU SAID THAT THING ABOUT LESS BUGS AND I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT, UM, BEFORE YOU SAID IT, BUT I USED TO, YOU KNOW, I RIDE MY BIKE UP AND DOWN, UM, ALL SPRING ROAD AND I USED TO GET BUGS IN MY MOUTH.
AND IT DIDN'T HAVE NEVER BOTHERED ME UNTIL YOU SAID THERE WERE LESS BUGS.
LIKE I USED TO GET BUGS IN MY MOUTH WHEN I WOULD RIDE MY BIKE AND RIDE MY BIKE NOW.
AND I DON'T GET ANY BUGS IN MY MOUTH.
SHARON, SHARON SENT UNDER THE EMAIL.
SHE SAID, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HAD TO CLEAN THE BUGS OFF YOU WINDSHIELD? THAT USED TO BE SOMETHING IN THE SUMMER USED TO DO REGULARLY.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE I NOTICED IT LAST SUMMER IN PARTICULAR, I GUESS SUMMER BEFORE, BUT EVEN LAST SUMMER MORE SO.
IT USED TO BE WHEN I WAS GARDENING, I WAS CONSTANTLY DOING THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE SPIDER WOULD GO UP YOUR ARM OR SOMETHING WOULD GO UP YOUR ARM AND I SUDDENLY REALIZED THERE WERE NO BUGS.
I WAS SITTING IN THE GRASS GARDENING AND THERE WERE NO BUGS OF ANY KIND.
THERE WEREN'T EVEN ANTS ANYMORE.
AND THE ANTS, I ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE ANTS IN THE ROCK GARDEN AND IT WAS LIKE THERE WEREN'T EVEN ANTS LEFT, WHICH IS REALLY, WOW.
IF ANYBODY WANTS A CRICKET, COME OVER HERE.
AND, AND WHAT'S SCARY ABOUT IT'S THAT, YOU KNOW, WHICH I THINK IS TRUE OF PROBABLY EVERYONE ON THIS CALL, I DON'T USE PESTICIDES ON MY PROPERTY AND HAD NEVER HAVE.
SO IT'S LIKE, YEAH, I'M SAYING.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY SCARY ABOUT IT, IS THAT THE POPULATIONS HAVE JUST GONE.
SO THIS IS, UM, NOW I MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY THE PROFESSIONALS SAY WHEN THEY LOOK AT IT AND THINK, LIZ.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THINGS LIKE THIS IS WE'VE ALWAYS, WITH THE CAC REALLY WORKED VERY HARD TO, UM, REALLY HAVE A LOT OF BACKUP INFORMATION, RATHER.
OTHERWISE WE DON'T WANNA BE ALARMIST.
RIGHT? WE DON'T WANNA, WELL, WE WANNA BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY, WHICH I THINK WE ARE.
WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE WHEN WE COME IN AND WE SAY SOMETHING, WE HAVE A KIND OF A REPUTATION FOR BEING WE, WE'VE DONE OUR RESEARCH AND WE DEFINITELY KNOW.
WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T DO I THINK WE DO.
AND ON THIS ONE, I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW BECAUSE OF THE FACT IT ISN'T REALLY IN A FLYWAY, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO, AND, AND I GUESS THE WHOLE THING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BREAKING OF THE WINDOWS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I THINK PART OF THE THING I'M SURE FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND EVERYONE IS EVERYONE'S, BUT THIS IS NOT AN INEXPENSIVE THING TO DO TO PUT THIS NETTING UP, IS THAT EVERYONE IS TERRIFIED OF BEING SUED.
BECAUSE FROM LOOKING AT, WHEN I LOOKED ON THE TOWN, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT WEBSITE, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS GONNA BE INEXPENSIVE TO DO.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT IF THEY COULD GET OUT OF IT, THEY'D JUST BE
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JUST AS HAPPY.THIS IS, THIS IS IN HARTSDALE, RIGHT? THE WHAT, WHERE GOLF CLUB WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCAR? YES.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CALLED THE SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB.
BUT IN POINT OF FACT, IT NOT IN SCAR.
AND POINT OF FACT ISN'T EVEN AN EDGE MARK FOR THE MOST PART.
MOST OF ITS, YEAH, IT'S, SO IT'S ABOVE, IT'S ABOVE THE TRAIN STATION.
YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU SAID THE NET COST A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, LIKE 200,000 I THINK HE SAID LAST NIGHT AT THE MEETING.
HOW'D YOU, HOW'D YOU FIND OUT ABOUT IT? I MEAN, WE DIDN'T GET, WE DIDN'T GET NOTICE.
DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT IT? JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION? HMM.
WELL, BECAUSE I'M A MEMBER OF SCARSDALE GOLF CLUB, BUT DON'T TELL 'EM THEY'RE NETTING
GOT EMAILS TELLING US TO COME TO THE BOARD MEETING.
AND SO DONNA SAID LIKE, HOW COME THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING TO COME OUT? AND MIKE SAID, WOW, DONNA, THAT'S REALLY SHARP OBSERVATION.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET YOU AS A, A MEMBER TO COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED THIS NETTING.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO GUYS? I I THINK WE WAIT FOR SOME INFORMATION AND SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH.
I MEAN, AS I SAID, THE TWO, IT WAS VERY FUNNY WHEN GARRETT SAID, THE ONE BUILDING THAT ISN'T, UM, THE ONE BUILDING THAT ISN'T OBJECTING IS THE BUILDING THAT REALLY WOULD GET HIT WITH THE GOLF COURSE.
SO THAT'S, SO IT ACTUALLY DIDN'T ORIGINATE WITH THE GOLF COURSE AS MUCH AS IT ACTUALLY ORIGINATED WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
THE, THE, AND SOME OF THE RESIDENT, THE INDI UH, THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THEY, THE GUY SAID HE DOES GET A LOT OF GOLF BALLS.
HE JOKED THAT HE BELONGS TO ANOTHER GOLF CLUB AND HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BUY GOLF BALLS 'CAUSE HE JUST COLLECTS 'EM FROM HIS BACKYARD.
WHICH OF YOU HAVE KIDS PLAYING IN BACKYARD IS KIND OF SCARY.
UM, 'CAUSE BECAUSE UNLESS THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, CADDIES,
SO THEY COULD JUST GRAB THE BALLS AND DROP 'EM AND BE LIKE, HEY, I FOUND YOUR BALL
SO I THINK HE'S GONNA MISS THE THING HE WAS REALLY HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT.
WHICH IS THIS, THIS CHAPTER, UH, 5 9 5, UM, THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE MEETINGS, WHICH I HAD SORT OF REFERRED TO AT THE BEGINNING.
MATT, ARE YOU THERE BY ANY CHANCE MATT? I AM HERE.
MATT, DO YOU KNOW LAST NIGHT WHEN THEY WERE, DID THEY PICK, DID THEY APPROVE THE MEETINGS LAW LAST NIGHT? DO YOU KNOW AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING? UH, THE MEETINGS LAW? I AM NOT SURE BECAUSE WE WERE WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT THEY CHANGED FROM WHAT THEY HAD.
'CAUSE THEY HADN'T HAD ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT PEOPLE WITH COMORBIDITIES OR, YOU KNOW, HEALTH CONCERNS NOT ATTENDING IN PERSON.
YEAH, I, I'M, I'M NOT AWARE OF, UM, IF THEY PASSED THAT OR NOT.
I CAN ASK GARRETT, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW THEY PASSED THE DSS LAW.
WHAT'S THAT? UH, ADDING A COUPLE OF USES TO THE DSS DISTRICT TO OH, OKAY.
ADD SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY ZONING.
UM, WHAT DID THEY DO WITH, UM, THE BLOWER? THAT'S ALSO A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, I WAS NOT INFORMED BECAUSE THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA ALSO.
BUT THEY LEFT IT THAT THEY WERE LEAVING IT OPEN FOR 10 MORE DAYS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT DID THEY WELL, WHENEVER YOU PASS THE LAW, THAT'S USUALLY 10 DAYS TO COMMENT.
SO, UH, GEORGE, BUT THEY DID NOT VOTE ON IT.
RECORD CLOSED, THE PUBLIC HEARING RECORD.
UM, BUT THEY LEAVING, UM, IT'LL BE OCTOBER
SO, SO HERE'S THE QUESTION THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS, UM, IF WE HAD TO MEET IN PERSON, UM, WITH COVID, UM, WHAT'S YOUR COMFORT LEVEL WITH IT? AND MAYBE, UM, THIS MAY NOT BE FAIR TO JUST HIT YOU WITH IT, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.
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WE WOULD BE IN THE F LEE JACKSON ROOM, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIGGER THAN THE ROOM WE WERE IN, BUT IT, IT IS, UH, SITTING IN A ROOM THAT'S NOT HUGE.UM, MATT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT TO, TO WHAT DEGREE THE TOWN, HAVE THEY CHANGED THEIR VENTILATOR SYSTEM? I HAVE NO IDEA.
I MEAN, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AS MEMBERS, WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE MEETING IN PERSON AND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT IS AN ISSUE, I THINK WE NEED TO START TO MAKE PEOPLE APPRAISED TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A, UH, AN ISSUE IN TERMS OF, UM, CONCERN.
UM, SO I MEAN, AND I KNOW THAT VARIES FOR EVERYBODY, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS AN AREA OF CONCERN THAT HAS TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT.
AND HERE'S MY, JUST AS WE'RE FINISHING UP, UM, TELL, I, I'VE BEEN GOING INTO THE OFFICE SINCE LAST JUNE, TAKING METRO NORTH.
IF I HAD TO GO TO, UM, THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD TO WEAR A MASK, I'M OKAY.
NOW, THE REQUIRED MASKS IN ALL PUBLIC AREAS OF TOWN HALL.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF, I GUESS 'CAUSE OUR MEETINGS ARE TECHNICALLY PUBLIC, I GUESS THAT WOULD APPLY YES.
SO, BUT ALSO BASICALLY HELPING THE FACT THAT YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING ON MASKS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
UM, MATT SAID HE DID NOT KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY PASSED THE CHANGE TO THE MEETING LAWS AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE ANY CHANGES TO IT.
AND HE, SO THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THEY, WHAT, WHETHER THEY HAD PASSED THE MEETING MORE OR WHETHER THEY HAD PUT ANY CHANGES IN IT.
SO WE DON'T, ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE IN A POSITION OF NOT KNOWING.
OKAY, WELL, AT SOME POINT IN TIME IT'LL BE PUBLIC WHAT, UH, THEY DID LAST NIGHT WITH TB FOUR.
AND, UH, HAVE YOU EXPLAINED THE BACKGROUND TERRY TO EVERYONE ON THE CAC? YEAH, NO, THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN WITH BOTH.
I KNOW MIKE AND I, AND I SUSPECT SHARON MIGHT SHARE IT ALSO, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AT A CERTAIN AGE YOU REALLY GET VERY CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING COVID SIMPLY BECAUSE IF WE GET, IF WE GET SICK, WE'RE SO OLD, I'M GONNA, I'M JUST SAYING I'M SO OLD AT THIS POINT THAT IF I GET SICK, IT'S REALLY A MAJOR THING.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS, AND, AND, AND THE TOWN, THE STATE LAW THAT GOT PASSED HAD FOUR REASONS FOR NOT GOING TO MEETINGS.
THEY WERE ILLNESS, DISABILITY, CARE KEEPING RESPONSIVE CAREGIVING RESPONSIBILITY, AND SOME UNFORESEEN, UH, SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE.
BUT THE TOWN LAW IS NOT, THE STATE LAW IS NOT EXCLUSIVE.
UM, AND THERE'S A MEMO BY THE OPEN GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE, WHICH IS PART OF THE NEW YORK SECRETARY OF STATE THAT SAYS, UM, THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY CAN ADD ADD REASONS, UH, TO ZOOM AS OPPOSED TO GOING NOT TO GO TO THE MEETINGS.
GREENBERG ADDED A WEATHER EVENT.
THEY GRAD, THEY ADDED A WARNING OF A WEATHER EVENT.
UM, THEY ADDED BUSINESS TRAVEL AND THEY ADDED LEISURE TRAVEL.
NOW, THE LAW AS DRAFTED WOULD REQUIRE SOMEONE WITH A COMORBIDITY OR SOMEONE WHOSE DOCTOR'S ADVISED NOT TO GO TO THE MEETINGS, TO, TO HAVE TO GO TO THE MEETINGS AND WATCH SOMEONE WHO WAS ON VACATION AT LEISURE TRAVEL.
IT SEEMED TO ME AT LEAST THAT IF LEISURE TRAVEL WAS A RATIONAL EXCUSE FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO BE ABLE TO USE ZOOM, DOCTOR'S ADVICE SHOULD BE A RATIONAL REASON TO USE ZOOM OR COMORBIDITIES, YOU KNOW, PUBLISHED, UM, UM, BY THE C D C OUGHT TO BE A RATIONAL REASON TO, UM, TO ZOOM AS OPPOSED TO IN-PERSON ATTENDANCE.
UH, TERRY SENT AN EMAIL AND I SENT AN EMAIL.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURIOUS IS WHAT, WHAT THE TOWN BOARD, YOU KNOW, REACTED TO THE ISSUES OF, UH, DOCTOR'S ADV ADVICE, ADDING DOCTORS'
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ADVI.AS I SAID, THEY ALREADY ADDED WEATHER OR WARNING OF WEATHER, BUSINESS TRAVEL AND LEISURE TRAVEL.
WE SUGGESTED ADDING, UM, DOCTOR'S ADVICE AND WE SUGGESTED ADDED, UM, COMORBIDITIES.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE CURIOUS AS TO WHAT, UH, AS TO WHAT THE DOWN BORN IN FACT DID.
SO WE'LL JUST SEE WHERE IT GOES.
I GUESS WE HAVE TO JUST WAIT AND SEE ON THIS ONE.
UM, UH, WHAT IS COMORBIDITIES? UH, AGE WOULD BE ONE, UH, AN IMMUNE DISEASE, UH, NOT A DISEASE, BUT A, UH, AN AN AN IMPAIRED, UM, UH, IMMUNE, UM, UH, SYSTEM.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE C D C WEBSITE, SHARON, UM, UH, THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL OR THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, UH, C D C WEBSITE, WHEN THE VACCINES FOR COVID CAME, COVID CAME OUT THE, UM, CERTAIN, AT FIRST THEY WERE FOR PEOPLE OF OVER A CERTAIN AGE, I FORGET THE AGE, 60 OR 65 OR SOMETHING AROUND THAT.
BUT IF YOU HAD A COMORBIDITY, YOU, UM, QUALIFIED TO, UM, QUALIFIED TO, UM, GET THE SHOTS EARLIER.
THE COMORBIDITY, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS, UH, I KNOW SOMEONE IN THE FORTIES THAT GOT THE SHOT EARLIER BECAUSE SHE HAD, UH, UH, IMPAIRED, UH, IMMUNE SYSTEM, UH, WHERE EVERYONE HAD TO BE AT NORMALLY, I THINK OVER 60 OR 65, I'M SORRY, DON'T RECALL WHICH IT WAS.
BUT THERE, THEY'LL PUBLISH COMORBIDITIES THAT ARE RECOGNIZED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S AN EMPIRICAL FACT.
AND THEN SOME PEOPLE MAY CONSULT WITH THEIR DOCTORS, UH, AS I AS HAVE, AS I'VE DONE MY LONGTIME FAMILY DOCTORS WHO GAVE ME ADVICE.
SO, UM, UM, THAT'S WHAT TERRY AND I SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, THAT IN ADDITION TO LEISURE TRAVEL
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DOWN THE DOWN BOARD, UH, DECIDE.
SO, AND THEN AS THE GOVERNOR KEEPS EXTENDING IT MONTH BY MONTH, IT MIGHT MAYBE A MOOT ISSUE.
SO I THINK WE'VE SORT OF WRAPPED UP EVERYTHING FOR TONIGHT.
THE BIG ONE THAT'S I THINK HANGING OUT THERE IS THE, UM, BIRDS AND THE NETTING.
AND LIZ, SINCE YOU REALLY ARE, UM, IN THE LOOP ON THIS BECAUSE OF YOUR ASSOCIATION, UH, WITH THE PROBLEM, UH, IF YOU COULD KEEP US INFORMED WHAT YOU FIND OUT, YOU HEAR OUT, WHAT ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT COMES OUT OF THE PERSON WHO COMES TO DO THE TEST AND, AND THEN BASED ON THAT, I HAVE A SUGGESTION.
UNLESS WE HAVE A, AND WE DO THIS SOMETIMES IN THE SUMMER, UNLESS WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT THEY SEND US, WE MAY NOT HAVE A MEETING FOR THE END OF THE MONTH.
YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE A PROJECTS FOR US TO LOOK AT, BUT IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT, AND I KNOW IT'S THE SUMMERTIME FOR EVERYONE, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO REALLY LOOK AT WITH THE BIRDS AND THE NETTING, UM, WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT THEN MEET IN THE END OF JULY.
AND WE DON'T MEET IN AUGUST, SO WE GET A NICE BIG BREAK IN THERE UNLESS SOMETHING COMES UP.
WE SOMETIMES HAVE CALLED EMERGENCY MEETINGS IN AUGUST BECAUSE SOMETHING CAME UP.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.
SO JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE BIRD ISSUE.
UM, THE SUGGESTION WAS MADE BY SOMEBODY WHO HAD, UM, JOINED THE MEETING VIA ZOOM, THAT THEY BRING AN EXPERT ON THE SITE VISIT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GARRETT AND THE TOWN ARE WILLING TO DO.
SO IS THAT AN AREA THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN ASKING THEM TO DO THAT OR? I, I JUST, I, I WONDER, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT GARRETT DIDN'T DO DO, DO A, DID A, DID DO A REACH OUT TO D E C AND THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION FROM HIM OR ANY OPINION TO, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO CORNELL, UM, THE, THE BIRD, THEIR BIRD LAB AND THE BRONX RIVER AUDUBON AND TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY, AND I CAN FORWARD YOU FINISHING BECAUSE IT MAY YES.
OR IT MAY ALSO BE, THEY MAY HAVE INFORMATION ON THE PARTICULAR TYPE OF WEDDING, WEDDING WEDDING IN THIS INSTANCE THAT MIGHT BE PREFERABLE.
YEAH, WELL THEY MAY ALSO HAVE AN EXPERT THAT, UH, WOULD BE WILLING TO COME.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S LOOKING FOR BECAUSE I GUESS WHAT LIZ HAD SAID WAS, AT THE MEETING, THERE WAS A SUGGESTION TO HAVE AN EXPERT COME IN, BUT SHE WASN'T SURE WHETHER OR NOT THERE HAD BEEN ONE ARRANGED FOR.
SO MAYBE YOU CAN CHECK EVEN BEFOREHAND
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WITH GARRETT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GETTING AN EXPERT, LIZ MM-HMM.AND IF I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT THAT SOMEBODY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION TODAY SURE, I'LL BRING IT UP.
JUST SENT, I FORWARDED AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY, BUT IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE THIS MEETING, SO I'M SURE NOBODY HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THAT YET.
SO I GUESS, UM, THE TOWN RECEIVED, UH, MONEY FROM NEW YORK STATE TO BUILD THE NEW SIDEWALKS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
UM, SOME, SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS ARE ALREADY GOING IN IN EDGEMONT AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SIDEWALK, UM, REFURBISHING IN ALONG WEST HARTSDALE.
AND, UH, EDITA CAPSIS, WHO WAS THE CO-CHAIR OF THE ARDSLEY, C A C I GUESS HAD BEEN PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO ALL OF THIS.
AND SHE WROTE A NOTE, AN EMAIL TO PAUL FINER, AND GARRETT AND CIN HAPPENS TO KNOW ME JUST THROUGH OUR, THROUGH WHATEVER, UM, CC'D ME ON THAT.
AND SHE HAD ASKED WHY THEY WEREN'T LOOKING AT, UM, THE TREE WELLS AND OTHER PERMEABLE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WOULD CATCH WATER AS OPPOSED TO THINGS THAT WOULD ADD TO FLOODING ISSUES.
WELL, SHE WAS JUST ASKING WHY THEY DIDN'T DO MORE SUSTAINABLE.
UM, I GUESS HASTINGS AND LEY HAVE BOTH PUT IN SUSTAINABLE SIDEWALKS OR IN THE MIDST OF DOING THAT.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY PRICED IT OUT AND HAVE CONTRACTORS AND SEEMS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, THE FLOODING IS A PROBLEM THERE.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ISSUES ON THAT ONE.
UM, ONE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S MORE A QUESTION OF HOW THEY'RE GONNA DO IT BECAUSE THAT THERE ISN'T AN ACTUAL PLAN IN PLAY OF HOW THEY'RE DOING IT.
SO WE CAN'T SAY THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT.
BUT WHAT I DO KNOW ABOUT THAT SINCE I, SINCE, SINCE I HAVE TO DRIVE IT TO GET TO MY HOUSE, IS THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH IS VERY LIMITED.
IF THEY START TO GO, THEY'RE GONNA BE TAKING DOWN TREES.
I SUSPECT THAT WAS MY CONCERN ACTUALLY, TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN.
THEY WILL HAVE TO TAKE DOWN TREES PROBABLY, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS WITH A LOT OF THE RIGHT OF WAYS ON THE ROADS, PARTICULARLY THE STATE ROADS, IS THERE ISN'T THAT MUCH RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN IRONICALLY IT FLIPS SIDES IN SOME, ON SOME OF THE ROADS.
SO PUTTING IN SIDEWALKS REALLY BECOMES A PROBLEM BECAUSE ONE SIDE, 'CAUSE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THE SECONDARY ROWS THE TOWN HAS DONE OVER THE YEARS, AND THE RIGHT OF WAY SWITCHES FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.
AND THE RIGHT OF WAY ISN'T AS DEEP AS IT IS.
FOR INSTANCE, IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE WHERE I LIVE, THE STREETS ARE WIDER THAN SAY THE OLDER PARTS OF EDGEMONT.
UM, AND MEANWHILE THERE REALLY IS A DEEP, UM, RIGHT OF WAY ON EITHER SIDE OF THE TOWN HOME.
SO IN SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES, THE TOWN HAS LOADS OF PLAY.
IF THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S USUALLY IN AREAS WHERE YOU DON'T NEED SIDEWALKS.
AND ON THIS ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED, BUT THAT'S ALSO A STATE ROAD.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INPUT THE TOWN WILL HAVE.
I THINK THAT'S, UH, A THING WHERE, UM, IF THE TOWN WE'RE PUTTING IN THE SIDEWALKS AND THE TOWN WE'RE PUTTING THEM IN ON A TOWN STREET, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN IF THE STATE PUTS THEM IN.
I THINK THE STATE, I COULD BE WRONG ON THIS, LIZ, BUT I SUSPECT WHEN THE STATE COMES IN, THE STATE DOES WHAT THE STATE WANTS TO DO, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE UM, RIGHT OF WAY IS TOO NARROW FOR THE NORMAL SIDEWALK, TERRY? OR WHETHER YOU HAVE, OR WHEN YOU HAVE TO, WHICH SIDE? WHAT? I DUNNO.
MY BEST WIFE, I'M VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH HARTSDALE AVENUE.
'CAUSE THE SHOULDER ON EITHER SIDE IS EXTREMELY NARROW.
I, I MEAN, WHENEVER I HAVE SOMEONE BIKING, I'M LIKE TERRIFIED TO GET A GET AROUND THEM BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY SHOULDER ON THE ROAD.
AND THE EMAIL EDITA SENT ME, THERE WAS A LINK TO A PLAN, BUT THAT LINK IS NOW NO LONGER WORKING.
SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A PLAN SOMEWHERE.
I JUST DUNNO HOW TO, THAT SHE DID READ AND THAT I COULD NOT, AND IT WASN'T ALLOWING ME TO OPEN THE LINK, BUT I FORWARDED THE EMAIL TO EVERYBODY SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE, THE EXCHANGE.
BUT I, I DON'T KNOW WHY, EVEN IF IT'S ON A STATE ROAD, WE CAN'T PICK UP THE CONCEPT FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL POINT OF VIEW TO SAY THAT THE TOWN SHOULD USE AS BEST.
I MEAN, THE TOWN DOESN'T, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU DON'T CONTROL IT, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T SAY THE TOWN SHOULD, UM, UH, APPROACH THE, UH, WHOEVER'S DOING THIS
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AND TRY TO SEE WHAT CAN BE, UM, ACHIEVED IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDLY IMPERVIOUS, IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.PARTICULARLY IN THE CONTEXT WHERE THEY'RE TAKING DOWN TREES.
YEAH, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE GONNA ACTUALLY BE DOING.
I THINK BEFORE WE CAN REALLY COMMENT.
I DON'T, WELL, WELL, I, I I I, I DON'T KNOW THE STAGE OF IT, BUT IT, IT SEEMS TO ME WE COULD TAKE A POSITION THE TOWN OUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THE CS THINK C A C THINKS IS A, YOU KNOW, AN ISSUE OF, UH, THIS SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, EXPLORED.
AND WE'D LIKE TO, AND WE'D LIKE TO FIND OUT, RIGHT.
MAY MAYBE WHAT WE NEED IS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA BE DONE.
BECAUSE LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS WITH TREES AND WHATNOT, THAT'S LIKE A DOWNTOWN STREET SIDEWALK THAT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, A HEAVILY VERY NARROW ROAD ON A HEAVILY GRADE WITH CH WITH WITH CURBS.
IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT.
UM, WELL, WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE SEND A LETTER TO GARRETT AND JUST EX JUST EXPRESSING A GENERAL CONCERN ABOUT MAKING THE REMOVAL OF TREES AND THE, UM, PLACE.
I, I THINK THAT THAT SEEMS REASONABLE.
I COULD, I COULD SHOOT AN EMAIL OFF TO GARRETT ABOUT THAT.
I THINK IN, I THINK TREES ARE GONNA BE NEW, IMPERVIOUS SURFACES ARE BEING PUT IN, LIKE THEY, UH, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONCERN THAT IT BEING AS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO BOTH, YOU'RE SAYING MIKE, THE REMOVAL OF TREES AS WELL AS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE POURING TO MAKE THE NEW, WHAT THEY'RE USING TO MAKE THE NEW SIDEWALK.
LIKE THEY'VE ALREADY, THE WHOLE CONSTRUCTION ISSUE, I THINK IS ONE THAT, HOW IS THIS GONNA BE CONSTRUCTED IN TERMS OF THE IMPACTS ENVIRONMENTALLY? BECAUSE I MEAN, I DON'T, RIGHT NOW THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IS ACTUALLY CONDUIT FOR WATER TO RUN DOWN.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO SOMEHOW PUT DRAINS IN AND A SEWER LINE DOWN.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE WITH, WITH WEST TOKI AVENUE FOR A FEW YEARS WHILE THEY'RE WORKING ON THIS, UH,
UH, BECAUSE IT, IT, THERE IS NO PLACE TO REROUTE TRAFFIC WHEN YOU ARE WORKING ON THAT ROAD.
I MEAN, YOU JUST, IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD TO REPAIR SOME UNDERGROUND STUFF, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR AND THEY JUST BASICALLY, UH, NEAR WHERE THE FARM IS, THE ROAD WAS CLOSED, YOU'D BE BACKED UP, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN NON-BUSY PARTS OF THE DAY.
SO I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING WHERE, UM, SOME OF THEIR OPTIONS ARE LIMITED IN TERMS OF DOING THE JOB.
BUT I CERTAINLY CAN SEND SOMETHING TO GARRETT EXPRESSING, AS MIKE SAID, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
'CAUSE I DON'T SEE HOW THEY CAN DO IT WITHOUT TAKING DOWN TREES.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF THOSE TREES ARE IN THERE RIGHT AWAY OR THEY'RE ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES, BUT IT'S PRETTY HEAVILY TREATED CLOSE TO THE ROAD, THE WHOLE WAY UP AND DOWN.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE, WELL ANYWAY, I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO ME LIKE ANY NEGATIVE.
AND I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER, WE DON'T HAVE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO ALL THE QUESTIONS TO START THIS DIAL.
I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT LIZ HAS.
NANCY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? SHE'S OUT WITH THE BABY.
CAN WE, CAN WE SEE THE BABY
AND WE ALSO CAN'T SEE THE BABY.
I CAN ONLY REQUEST YOU CAN'T UN AUTO UNMUTE SOMEBODY.
YEAH, BECAUSE SHE WAS IN THE ELEVATOR BEFORE, SO I THINK SHE'S WALKING THE BABY RIGHT NOW.
I THINK WE HAVE A HARD COMPETITION THERE WITH, WITH AN EIGHT MONTH.
AND THE VIDEO SEEMS TO BE ON, RIGHT? YES.
NO, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT UP AND RUNNING.
I'VE HAD A REQUEST FOR YOU TO, TO, TO VIDEO THE BABY.
GET THE CONE IN FRONT OF THE BABY.
CAN YOU SEE HIM? NOT QUITE YET.
IT'S REALLY SUNNY AND I GOTTA SAY YES.
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HE'S ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS.WHERE ARE YOU? I'S IN CALIFORNIA? YEAH, IN LOS ANGELES.
MARGARET, WOULD YOU MUTED? WELL, THAT'S ABOUT, THAT'S ABOUT THE EXTENT OF IT HERE.
WELL, LOOKS LIKE WE GOT A NEW MEMBER OF THE C A C A WRITING NEW MEMBER
SO WE'LL HAVE A NOTE GOING OUT TOGETHER AT, UM, WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
AND, AND AS YOU SAY, TERRY ASKING FOR INFORMATION, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE NOTHING WE CAN DO, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, LET, LET'S EXPRESS A GENERAL GENERALIZED CONCERNS AND GET SOME INFORMATION THEN WE'LL SEE.
WELL, IS THIS FOR EAST HARSDALE AND WEST HARSDALE OR JUST WEST HARSDALE? I, IT'S THE SIDE.
THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ON EAST TAR.
I THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO SOME STUFF ON EAST HARTSDALE JUST TO MAKE IT SAFE AT A CROSS AND WHATNOT.
YEAH, THERE WAS, I I LOOKED AT IT.
UM, AT ONE POINT WHAT THEY WERE SHOWING WAS ON EAST HARTSDALE.
THEY WERE GONNA, UM, TAKE THE CURVE OUT A LITTLE BIT WHERE THE ROAD IS WIDE, WHERE, UM, COLUMBIA AREA AND AVENUE COMES DOWN SO THAT IF SOMEONE WERE WALKING ACROSS THE STREET, IT WAS A SHORTER CROSSING.
IT WASN'T INTERFERING WITH, UM, IT WASN'T INTERFERING WITH THE ROAD BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WHERE THERE'S CURRENTLY A CROSSING AREA AND YOU HAVE PARKING SPACES.
THEY WERE JUST GOING TO TAKE THE CURVE OUT FURTHER SO THAT THE WALK ACROSS THE STREET WAS LESS.
UM, BUT THE SIDEWALKS HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR A VERY LONG TIME ON WEST HARSDALE BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO WALK AND BIKE AND IT'S THIS KIND OF SCARY THING.
'CAUSE IT'S A REALLY NARROW ROAD YEP.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THIS EVENING? YES, SHARON.
IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT IF WE ARE ASKED TO COME TO THE, TO, UH, TOWN HALL FOR THE MEETINGS, WE, I WOULD NOT OBJECT TO GOING TO A MEETING IF IT WAS OUTDOORS.
SO IF THEY CAN PUT UP A PICNIC TABLE FOR US, THEN I, IN JANUARY.
IN JANUARY, WELL HOPEFULLY IN JANUARY COVID WILL HAVE GONE AWAY AND WE WON'T HAVE ANY MORE PEOPLE SICK.
NOW WE, WE ARE GOING TO BE, NOW THE UH, UH, BA FIVE IS, IS COMING.
IT STARTED TO COME AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE IMMEDIATE PROBLEM.
UM, WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE TIME UNTIL JANUARY
YEAH, WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, SO FAR THE, THE, THE GOVERNOR IS, IS DOING THIS MONTHLY.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOOD TO THE, I THINK AUGUST 16TH WAS THE DATE YEAH.
TO MID-AUGUST, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS, AND SINCE WE DON'T MEET IN AUGUST, WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN AUGUST FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
I, AND YES, I WOULD SIT OUTSIDE IN JANUARY.
SHARON I THINK IS GOING TO, WHAT WE'RE, THOSE OF US WHO ARE A CERTAIN AGE ARE, WE JUST DON'T GO INSIDE WITH PEOPLE IN, IN, IN LOCKED ROOMS.
IT'S LIKE WE'RE REALLY CAUTIOUS.
WE, IT'S JUST LIKE AT OUR AGE TO GET SICK IS A REALLY BIG DEAL.
IT JUST, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN, IT'S AN AWKWARD THING, BUT IT'S, I KNOW I REALIZE LIKE MARGARET IS, IS WORKING AND I'M SURE YOU'RE OUT AND ABOUT LIZ AND, YOU KNOW, UM, DONNA IS WORKING, BUT LAUREN IS WORKING.
BUT FOR US, IT'S LIKE YOU REALLY, EVERY TIME YOU'RE GONNA GO SOMEPLACE, YOU DO A WHOLE
I'M ACTUALLY VERY COVID CRAZY.
I DON'T, I TRY TO AVOID INDOORS.
OKAY, SO THAT'S YOU AND YOU'RE MUCH YOUNGER, DEAR.
SO I MAY BE A LITTLE YOUNGER, BUT I'M FULLY VACCINATED ALL THE WAY AROUND.
I DO HAVE PRE UM, I GUESS I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PREEXISTING CONDITIONS OR MEDICAL ISSUES THAT REQUIRE THAT I'M FULLY VAX.
MY DOCTORS ALREADY TOLD ME TO START LOOKING AT THE, I GUESS THE THIRD BOOSTER WHEN THAT COMES OUT TO GET IT.
SO YEAH,
I'VE BEEN AROUND PEOPLE WHO TESTED POSITIVE AND GOT SICK AND I DIDN'T.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALL OF THE PRECAUTIONS THAT I TAKE.
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ENCLOSED ROOMS. I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN A CAR WITH SOMEBODY WHO ENROLLED WITH THEM AND THEY ENDED UP WITH FULL-BLOWN COVID AND I DIDN'T GET IT.SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LAUREN ONLY THAT I'VE HAD IN THE PRECAUTIONS.
THE, UM, THERE IS A NASAL SPRAY THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY A WOMAN SCIENTIST IN ISRAEL THAT IS ON THE MARKET THAT YOU CAN GET THROUGH CANADA.
IT'S NOT ONLY NOT, YOU CAN'T GET IT HERE, YOU CAN GET IT THROUGH CANADA AND IT FOR, FOR THAT DISCIPLE SITUATION.
OR, UH, YOU FIND YOURSELF IN CONTACT WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS, UM, TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID AND IT'S SUPPOSEDLY KILLED 99% OF THE COVID GERMS IN YOUR NOSE SO THAT IT DOESN'T THEN GO DOWN INTO YOUR LUNGS.
UH, IF YOU WANT ME TO, I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT IF, UH, IF YOU WANT ME OUT, THE DOCTOR, I, OUR FAMILY DOCTOR SAYS FIVE 25% OF HIS, OF HIS PRACTICE IS NOW COVID AND HE'S WRITING A, A SCIENCE PAPER ON LONG COVID AND HE'S THE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, GAVE US THIS.
NOW THE TESTS, THE TESTS WERE BASED, I, THEY HAVE TWO TESTS.
ONE WAS IN INDIA AND ONE WAS IN, I FORGET THE OTHER PLACE, THE TEST.
BUT THEY SAY THAT IT KILLS 99% OF, BASED ON THESE TESTS, 99% OF COVID.
IF YOU WANT ME TO, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SEND YOU THE, UH, THE NAME OF IT AND YOU CAN LOOK IT UP ON THE, UH, ON THE WEBSITE.
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO READ ANY OF THE DIRECTIONS 'CAUSE THEY'RE IN HEBREW, BUT
MIKE, WHY DON'T YOU SEND, YOU SEND ME THAT LINK, MIKE CALCULATED TO ALL, IS THAT OUTTA HADASSA HOSPITAL OR JUST A DOCTOR IN ISRAEL? IT'S A, IN, SHE'S A, SHE, SHE'S A
THERE'S, THAT'S BEEN WORKING IN THE AREA OF, OF, UH, OF, UM, OF, UH, UM, TRANSMISSIBLE DISEASES FOR LIKE, YOU KNOW, 15, 20 YEARS OR SO.
I'LL, I'LL SAY I'LL, UH, I'LL, I'LL, YEAH, I'LL SEND IT AROUND.
SEND, SEND IT OUT TO EVERYONE.
I HAVE NO, YOU KNOW, NO PERSONAL, YOU KNOW, ABILITY.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE THE EXPERTISE TO MAKE ANY PERSONAL JUDGMENT OR NOT, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND IT AROUND AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN JUDGMENT.
UM, IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU WANNA ORDER IT OR NOT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR TONIGHT? WHO HAS THE NANCY, YOU HAVE THE BABY.
IT'S SO NICE TO HEAR A LITTLE BABY.
THIS, THIS IS A REALLY JUNIOR MEMBER
YEAH, BUT WHOEVER'S TAKING THE MINUTE, NANCY, WHAT'S HIS NAME? WILL US.
HE LOOKS, NANCY LOOK, LOOKS LIKE HE LOOKS LIKE OUR DAUGHTER FOR SURE.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S HIS NAME? NANCY.
YOUR VOLUNTEERING IS STARTING VERY EARLY IN LIFE.
OKAY, I GUESS THAT THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT, UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANYTHING ELSE.
MATT, MATT, IF YOU WOULD REMIND GARRETT, PLEASE, UH, WHEN HE'S ABLE TO GET A COPY OF TB FOUR, I, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT BE IMMEDIATELY, BUT WHENEVER HE CAN GET A COPY OF TB FOUR, IF YOU PLEASE SEND IT AROUND.