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DO YOU WANNA START WITH THE PROJECT? YEAH.
[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL Agenda THURSDAY, September 8, 2022 – 6:30 P.M.]
UM, UH, TOWN OF GREENBERG CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, UM, MEETING THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH.AND, UM, WE HAVE, UH, FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT AS WELL AS MR. BRITTON FROM THE C, D, AND C.
AND, UH, THE, UH, FIRST ORDER ON OUR AGENDA IS WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT CASE NUMBER PB 2214, UH, SEVEN ROCK HILL LANE.
AND I THINK, AND MR. BELLO IS, UH, IS HERE, UH, REPRESENTING, UH, UH, THE APPLICANT.
AND, UM, SO MR. WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
I'M, UH, REPRESENTING, UH, VINOD MOHER.
HE'S THE OWNER OF SEVEN ROCK HILL LANE.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN R 20, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, AND WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, COUPLE OF THINGS.
THE FIRST ONE IS A, AN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING WOOD DECK.
UH, THAT ADDITION IS ABOUT 141 SQUARE FEET, AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A NEW, UH, STONE PATIO, UH, THAT'S ABOUT 495 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND I CAN GO THROUGH THE DRAWINGS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
CAN I SHARE THE SCREEN? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SHARE THE SCREEN, OR WHAT DO YOU THINK? I, I, WE ALL, WE ALL HAVE, UH, UH, WHAT WAS DISTRIBUTED BY, UH, A, C, D, AND C, BUT IT PROBABLY WHAT WE NORMALLY DO.
YEAH, WE'D ASK YOU TO, UH, NOT IN, I MEAN, NOT IN THE DETAIL OF EVERYTHING IN THE DRAWINGS, BUT, UH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE THEM.
BUT IF YOU WOULD JUST, UH, THROW UP THE, UH, UH, KIND OF THE OVERVIEW AND SHOW WHERE THE PROPERTY IS AND WHERE THE, UH, WHERE THE, UH, UH, THE WATER, THE WATERCOURSE IS AND, UH, WHERE YOU'RE BUILDING THE DECK AND THE, AND THE, UH, AND THE, UM, PATIO IN RELATION TO THE HOUSE IN RELATION TO THE WATERCOURSE.
UH, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
SO LET ME, UH, TRY TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE THE SCREEN.
UH, CAN EVERYBODY SEE, UM, SEE WHAT I HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN? YEP.
AND LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE TO, TO MAKE IT BIGGER AT VARIOUS PLACES.
CAN YOU MAKE IT BIGGER? CAN WE MAKE IT BIGGER? IF YOU'RE ON YOUR, YOUR, IS THAT BETTER? BIGGER? YEAH, THAT'S BETTER.
IS THAT BETTER? YEAH, THAT'S BETTER.
SO THIS IS THE, UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN HERE.
UH, THE, I DON'T, THE LINE OF THE PROPERTY IS SHOWN BLUE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT.
I'M RUNNING THE CURSOR ACROSS THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
THE LEFT SIDE PROPERTY LINE COMES DOWN HERE.
UH, MS. BE THE, THE COLORS AREN'T SHOWING UP, SO YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO WALK US THROUGH THE COLORS, OKAY? OKAY.
SO THE DRIVEWAY HERE PULLS UP TO THE, THE HOUSE HAS GOT THE SHADED LINE.
IT'S GOT THE, UH, OUTLINE SHADED.
THAT'S THE EXISTING HOUSE RIGHT THERE.
THIS IS THE EXISTING DECK THAT'S AT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE THAT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN THIS HATCHED AREA HERE IS THE AREA OF THE DECK THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD WITH SOME STEPS.
AND THEN ON THIS SIDE HERE, THIS HATCHED AREA HERE, THAT IS THE STONE PATIO THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND, AND THE, I UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR FILING, UM, THERE ARE, FOR SUPPORTING THE DECK, THERE'S GONNA BE ONLY FOUR TUBES.
THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, ONE SONO TUBE HERE, ONE HERE, AND ONE HERE, AND ONE HERE.
SO YES, FOUR SONO TUBES TO SUPPORT THE ADDITION TO THE DECK.
AND THE DECK IS GOING TO HAVE, UH, SPACES BETWEEN THE WOOD FOR THE WATER TO GO THROUGH.
AND YOU WANNA TELL US ABOUT THE PATIO AND WHAT YOU PLAN FOR THAT? OKAY.
SO THE PATIO, WE ARE PLANNING THE PATIO TO BE PERMEABLE.
AND THAT INCLUDES A WALL HERE.
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THAT WALL IS BASICALLY, IF YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S GOT, YOU'VE GOT AC UNITS HERE, AND WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE SHIELDING FOR THE AC UNITS AND UNDERNEATH THE DECK A LITTLE BIT.UM, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR THIS.
I CAN GO THROUGH SOME DETAILS THAT I HAVE FOR THE DECK OR FOR THE PATIO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.
IT, IT'S ON, IT'S ON ONE OF YOUR, UH, DRAWING, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
WHY DON'T YOU QUICKLY FLIP TO THAT? WHAT IS IT? UH, 1 0 1 OR SOMETHING? I 1 0 1? YES.
SO BEFORE I, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, HERE'S THE WATER COURSE RIGHT HERE.
AND IT GOES, I BELIEVE IT GOES UNDERGROUND HERE, AND IT CONTINUES DOWN THIS WAY.
SO, SO THAT'S THE WATER, WASN'T THAT AGAIN, THAT'S THE WATER COURSE, THEN IT, THEN IT, THEN IT GOES UNDERGROUND AND THEN IT DAYLIGHTS, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE IT DOES.
AND I THINK IT COMES OVER HERE, AND I THINK IT DAYLIGHTS OVER HERE.
I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, BUT THIS IS BASICALLY THE LINE RIGHT HERE THAT IT, THAT IT TRAVELS RIGHT HERE.
AND, UH, AND WHAT'S THE TOPOGRAPHY THAT'S OF THE, OF THIS LAND? UM, WHICH WAY IS THE SLOPE? SLOPE TOWARDS THE WATER, OF COURSE.
THE SLOPE STARTS HIGH HERE AND GOES IN THIS DIRECTION.
WHICH WAY DOES THE WATER RUN THAT, THAT SAME, IN THAT SAME DIRECTION THAT YOU WERE POINTING WITH YOUR CURSOR? YEAH.
IF, IF THERE'S WATER HERE, IT'S GONNA TRAVEL IN THIS DIRECTION LIKE THIS.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS HIGH HERE.
BUT IF THE STORM WATER, IF THERE'S A RAIN, HOW DO I THINK THE QUESTION WAS, IF IT'S A RAIN, HOW'S THE WATER GONNA TRAVEL? THE, THE, THE NATURAL DIRECTION OF THE WATER, IT'S GONNA TRAVEL.
I MEAN, IT'S GONNA COME DOWN THIS WAY, BUT WHEN IT GETS TO THIS POINT, IT'S GONNA TRAVEL THIS WAY.
YOU FOLLOW THE CURSOR THERE? YEP.
MATT, ARE THERE ANY KIND OF, DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF PLANTINGS THAT INTERRUPT THE FLOW OF A HEAVY RAIN INTO THE WATERCOURSE? UH, I DID NOT OBSERVE ANY PLANTINGS, UH, IN THAT AREA.
IS IS IT POSSIBLE, MR. BELLOW, TO PUT SOME PLANTINGS TO INTERRUPT, UH, THE FLOW OF, UH, HEAVY RAIN INTO THE WATERCOURSE? UH, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOME PLANTINGS PROB, LIKE AROUND HERE? YEAH.
I DON'T OTHER MEMBERS, THE, OF THE, OF THE C A C THING.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF WONDERING.
I I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THE OWNER ABOUT THAT.
I, I DON'T, I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY WOULD BE ADVERSE TO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT MY DECISION TO MAKE, BUT I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THE OWNER ABOUT THAT.
DO, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL ENVIRONMENTALLY TO JUST TO PREVENT THE, YOU KNOW, HEAVY FLOW GOING DOWN AT ONE TIME INTO THE WATER COURSE? UH, YES.
SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PROBABLY RIGHT ALONG HERE, RIGHT? TO DO SOME PLANTINGS? WELL, I, I MEAN THAT, YEAH.
I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO LEAVE IT TO YOU, YOU KNOW, THE BIOPSY BETTER THAN WE DO, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE WHATEVER YOU THINK IS, IS, YOU KNOW, MAKES SENSE.
BUT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO PRESENT IT, PREVENT IT FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, RUSHING INTO THE WATERCOURSE ALL OF A SUDDEN.
SO SOMETHING JUST SLOW DOWN THE FLOW OF IT.
I DON'T I AS TO WHERE IT IS THAT YEAH, I MEAN, THAT SEEMS TO ME, RIGHT IN THE GENERAL AREA, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT UP TO YOU, YOU KNOW, MORE ABOUT THIS THAN WE WOULD ABOUT WEATHER, WHERE, HOW, YOU KNOW, AS, AS MARGARET WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THE WATER FLOW? YOU, YOU'D KNOW MORE THAN WE WOULD.
WELL, YEAH, IF YOU MAKE A NOTE ON THAT, AND THEN YOU COULD, UH, AND IT WOULD JUST BE, UH, IT'D BE PLANTING UP WITH THE FLOW, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT WE NORMALLY SAY IS SATISFACTORY TO C, D AND C, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE CAN, WE CAN COORDINATE THE SPECIES AND SPECIFICS OF THAT.
HOW MANY Y'ALL CAN WORK THAT OUT.
YOU WERE GOING, UH, SHOW US NOW ABOUT THE, UM, PREVIOUS ON WHATEVER IT IS, 1 0 1.
SO I'M JUST SKIPPING THROUGH ALL THAT.
I THINK THESE ARE THE DETAILS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT LOOKS LIKE IT ON THE TOP.
SO WE, WE'VE ALREADY SELECTED, UM, THE STONE PAVERS THAT THE, THAT THE HOMEOWNER
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WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO, TO INSTALL FOR THE, FOR THE STONE PATIO.AND IT DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE A PERMEABLE, UH, APPLICATION.
AND BASICALLY IT COMES DOWN TO THE JOINTS BETWEEN THE PAVERS.
AND WE, IF WE CAN MAINTAIN A CERTAIN JOINT SIZE, THEN WE CAN HAVE IT MORE PERMEABLE THEN BASE IF YOU HAD A CONCRETE SLAB OR IF THERE WERE, UH, TIGHT JOINTS.
SO, UM, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS BASICALLY WE HAVE A, UH, UH, GEOTEXTILE MATERIAL.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BASES OF GRAVEL, AND THEN WE HAVE THE PERMEABLE SETTING BED AGGREGATE, AND THEN THE PAVERS GO ON TOP OF THAT.
AND THEN I'M CALLING, AND THEN I'M CALLING OUT FOR, UH, THE JOINT SIZES ONE EIGHTH INCH TO THREE SIX INCH INCH GRANITE SHIP.
AND THIS IS, THE PAVERS GONNA BE BY, UH, TECO BLOCK.
ACTUALLY, THE JOINT SIZE IS HALF INCH, HALF INCH JOINT SIZE.
AND, AND HOW, AND IS THIS, THIS SHOWS THREE JOINTS.
IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? THE THREE HALF INCH JOINTS, OR, OR IS THAT JUST, IT'S JUST A DRAWING AND IT'S GONNA BE, IF, IF IT'S NOT THREE DO, HOW MANY, HOW MANY JOINTS WILL THERE BE? WELL, THAT, THAT I, THAT I REALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY JOINTS THERE'S GONNA BE.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE A, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF JOINTS.
SEE HOW, SEE HOW WE HAVE THE PATTERN HERE? 'CAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT, WHAT, BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS ONLY THREE AT THE BOTTOM, WHICH SEEMED LIKE KIND OF SKINNY FOR THIS BIG, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PATIO.
THERE'D BE MORE, THIS IS JUST, UM, THIS IS JUST A DETAIL HERE THAT I HAVE, HAVE THIS.
BUT ALL, ALL THE JOINTS ARE GONNA BE HALF INCH.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT BASICALLY MAKES IT, UH, PERMEABLE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW MANY JOINTS? NO.
I, I COULD NOT TELL YOU HOW MANY JOINTS.
SO THERE'S A, DOES A MANUFACTURER HAVE SPECIFICATIONS ON THE JOINTS? MIKE? IT'S EVERY SINGLE, IT'S, THE JOINTS ARE BETWEEN EVERY SINGLE PAVER TO PAVER.
SO IT'S, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT CORNER.
THAT'S RIGHT CORNER TO CORNER OR SIDE TO SIDE.
SO, SO WHAT IS, WHAT SHOULD IT BE? UH, UH, UM, DONNA SHOULD BE JOINED BETWEEN EVERY PAVER, RIGHT? SO, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WERE LAYING BRICKS AND YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD BRICKS AND YOU WERE LINING THEM UP, AND YOU SAID, BETWEEN EVERY BRICK, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HALF INCH HERE, THEY'RE SAYING BETWEEN EVERY PAVER, BETWEEN EVERY PAVER, PAVER, THERE'S A HALF INCH GAP BEFORE YOU PUT IN THE NEXT PAVER.
NOW, THIS, THIS PATTERN, JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, IT'S, THIS IS JUST A, A HATCH PATTERN THAT I HAVE IN AUTOCAD.
SO TH THIS IS, DOESN'T REPRESENT EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, BUT I AM GONNA HAVE A HALF INCH BETWEEN ALL THE PAVERS, AND IT WILL BE A PERMEABLE STONE PATIO BECAUSE THE MANUFACTURER DOES HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW.
AND DONNA DOES THAT, DOES THAT THAT SEEM OKAY WITH YOU? YES.
UM, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, MR. BELLA, YOU WANT TO, UH, SHOW TO US, BUT THOSE WERE THE HIGHLIGHTS I PICKED UP.
THERE MAY BE OTHER ISSUES THAT, UH, DONNA OR MARGARET OR, OR NANCY OR GEORGE HAVE, OR OKAY.
AND I, I DID HAVE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE PATIO.
UM, I KNOW ON THE FAR END YOU'VE GOT A, UM, A BELGIAN BLOCK CURB, AND THEN ON THE, I DON'T KNOW, DIRECT, I DON'T SEE THE NORTH ARROW.
UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PATIO, THERE'S A STONE WALL.
WHAT'S CONTAINING THE PATIO ON THE LEFT EDGE? SO I HAVE, I HAVE THIS WALL HERE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S PRIMARILY FOR SHIELDING PURPOSES TO SHIELD THE AC UNITS.
AND THEN THERE IS A, A VERY SLIGHT SLOPE FROM HERE DOWN TO HERE.
AND THAT'S WHY I DID THAT BELGIUM BLOCK, RIGHT? THAT BELGIUM BLOCK IS GONNA HELP WITH THAT SLOPE.
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GET HERE, THIS HERE IS GONNA BE BASICALLY AT GRADE, RIGHT? SO AS THE, AS THE STONE PATIO COMES THIS WAY, THIS IS ALL PRETTY MUCH VERY LEVEL.AND SO THERE'S REALLY NO EDGE THERE.
THAT'S THE, THE STONE PATIO IS JUST GONNA DIE AT THAT POINT.
THAT, THAT OKAY WITH YOU DAR? THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S OKAY.
UM, MARGARET, JUST WANNA BE SURE WE'RE SPACING THE, UM, THE SLATS ON THE, UM, ON THE DECK.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE SAME SPECIFICATIONS AS THE EXISTING DECK, SO THAT WATER CAN FILTRATE THROUGH AND UNDERNEATH THE DECK THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GRAVEL OR SOMETHING SO THAT THE WATER CAN PERMEATE.
OH, WHAT DO YOU HAVE UNDERNEATH THE, THE ADDITIONAL, THE, THE, THE DECK? UH, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T ACTUALLY SPECIFY GRAVEL UNDERNEATH THE ADDITION TO THE DECK, BUT I CAN DO, SO WHAT DO WE HAVE? I CAN PUT A NOTE TO PUT GRAVEL UNDERNEATH THE DECK.
DO WE HAVE GRAVEL UNDERNEATH THE EXISTING DECK? DIDN'T WE ASK? YOU DON'T KNOW.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS, I MEAN, I CAN LOOK UP SOME PHOTOGRAPHS TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE THERE, BUT, UH, I'M NOT, I DON'T RECALL IF WE HAVE, UH, GRAVEL UNDER THERE.
I MEAN, I CAN SPECIFY TO PUT GRAVEL UNDERNEATH THE ENTIRE DECK IF THAT, IF THAT HELPS.
THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE ASK FOR, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER RUNS THROUGH THE DECK AND NOT OFF THE DECK INTO THE GROUND.
AND PERMEATES TH THAT, THAT'S VERY MUCH THE SAME TYPE OF CONCEPT, MR. BELLO, THAN WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PLANTING BY, YOU KNOW, TO CATCH THE STORM WATER, YOU, THOSE THINGS THAT JUST DON'T RUSH DOWN.
SO WOULD THAT BE OKAY IF I PUT A NOTE ON THE DRAWINGS TO, TO PROVIDE GRAVEL UNDERNEATH THE ENTIRE DECK? YEAH.
IS THAT OKAY, MARGARET? YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
AS, AS FAR AS THE, EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.
AS FAR AS THE DECK BOARDS, SINCE WE HAVE AN EXISTING DECK ALREADY, WE'RE BASICALLY JUST GONNA EXTEND WHAT WE HAVE.
UH, NOW I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THERE IS A GROOVE OR, OR A GAP BETWEEN THEY TYPICALLY IS.
BUT WE'RE BASICALLY GONNA FOLLOW THAT, THE EXISTING PATTERN.
BUT YOU SAID IN YOUR PAPERS THERE WAS A GAP.
I MEAN, I WANNA BE SURE YOU SAY IN YOUR, IN YOUR LETTER, I THOUGHT YOU SAID.
SO THEN, THEN THERE MUST BE, THERE MUST BE A GAP IF IT'S IN THERE.
THE EXTENT, AND THIS IS ON YOUR LETTER OF, UH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, JULY 27TH, MY COVER LETTER.
THE EXTENSION TO THE EXISTING DECK WILL BE PER, WILL BE PERVIOUS RAIN ORDER WILL DRAIN THE SOIL BELOW THROUGH THE DECK BOARDS.
NANCY, NANCY, YOU'RE PROBABLY MUTED.
OH, I, I, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
CAN YOU GO BACK, PLEASE, UH, MR. BELLO TO THE MAIN SCREEN FOR THE C A C MEMBERS.
SO YOU AND MADDEN AND THE CAC C MEMBER.
DO YOU WANT ME TO STOP SHARING? YEAH, PLEASE.
UH, GEORGE, UH, I SEE YOU'RE MUTED, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO,
SO, UH, UH, MATT, JUST SEE AND SEE, HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS? WELL, MAY I CLARIFY? SURE.
SO WE'VE ASKED THEM TO PROPOSE PLANTINGS.
IS THAT IT? OR WE'RE REQUIRED THAT THEY HAVE PLANTINGS, SO WE'RE, WE'RE PROVING IT, ASSUMING THEY WILL HAVE ACCEPTABLE PLAN.
THERE'LL BE PLANTINGS TO INTERRUPT THE FLOW, UM, OF STORMWATER, UH, SATISFACTORY TO CD AND C.
UM, THERE'LL BE JOINTS BETWEEN EVERY PAPER ON THE PATIO.
AND THE FOURTH OF THE DECK BOARDS, UH, WILL HAVE, UH, GAPS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU
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KNOW, AS DESCRIBED, UH, IN THE APPLICANT AS DESCRIBED IN THE JULY, UH, WHATEVER IT WAS, LETTER.THOSE WOULD BE JULY 27TH, UH, UH, UH, 2 0 2 2 LETTER.
AND THAT, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? OH, YOU THINK THOSE, DO YOU THINK THOSE WOULD ALL BE SOMETHING YOU COULD WORK WITH MR. BELLO? I, I THINK SO.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TOUCH BASE WITH THE HOMEOWNER, BUT I, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE FINE.
UH, MATT, ANYTHING, CD AND C WANTS TO, UH, NO, I THINK YOU GUYS COVERED EVERYTHING, UH, THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR, UH, WITH THOSE FOUR, WELL, I GUESS IT'D BE FIVE, WHICH IS OF COURSE, THE, UH, UM, IT'S A TYPICAL, THE, UH, THE, THE C, D AND C UH, REPORT THE CONDITIONS OF THE C D C REPORT.
SO THOSE FIVE THINGS, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
SO, SO MIKE, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THE FIFTH CONDITION.
THE, UM, AND, AND NANCY DID, UH, THERE'S A REPORT, A STAFF REPORT IS DATED AUGUST 31.
IT'S, UH, UH, UH, IT'S, UH, FOUR PAGE ONE, TWO.
IT'S A FOUR PAGE STAFF REPORT.
IT'S, IT WAS IN THE PAPERS DATED AUGUST 31ST, 2022.
AND THEY HAVE SOME CONDITIONS THAT THEY'VE SET FORTH.
IS THAT IT? YEAH, THE STAFF HAS SET FORTH, UH, 16 CONDITIONS.
AND SO WE NORMALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAY IS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH, AND THE STAFF REPORT DATED, DATED IN THIS CASE, AUGUST 31.
LET'S SEE GUYS, WHAT'S NEXT? UH, HEY, GEORGE.
ARE, ARE YOU IN THE US OR YOU IN EUROPE? US, YOU, YOU HOME.
YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.
DELAWARE,
NEXT ON OUR ITEM IS, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL LINKS.
UM, I HAD A BRIEF CHAT WITH TERRY ABOUT THE LINKS.
I THINK THE LINKS, I THINK THEY'RE PRIMARILY SENT, IF NOT ALL SENT BY DONNA.
UM, THE, UM, ONLY ISSUE THAT I HAD AND TERRY HAD WAS WITH THE LAST ONE, WHICH WAS FROM A PRIVATE NURSERY.
AND WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS, UH, ON A DIFFERENT, YEAH, YEAH.
UM, UM, UM, AND, AND, AND WE'VE HAD REQUESTS FROM, SOMETIMES WE GET REQUESTS SOMETIMES FROM THE SUPERVISOR.
SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING AND THEY'RE FREQUENTLY VERY GOOD IDEAS, BUT THEY ARE PROMOTING A PRIVATE, UM, ENTERPRISE.
AND WE GENERALLY HAVE HESITATED TO, UM, RESPONSE TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT.
SO WHAT WE WERE THINKING OF IS MAYBE PUTTING EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONNA SENT ON THE WEBSITE, EXCEPT THE LAST ONE.
BUT WE WOULD ADD A NOTE, SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, UH, C, D AND C CAN PROVIDE SOURCES OF NATIVE PLANTS UPON REQUEST.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, C D C CAN GIVE PRESUMABLY SEVERAL SOURCES, INCLUDING THIS ONE, WHICH LOOKS LIKE A GOOD SOURCE.
I MEAN, THERE'S REALLY NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY GOOD, BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, TERRY SAID ROSEDALE HAS NATIVE PLANTS AND, UM, THE NATIVE PLANT CENTER SOMETIMES HAVE NATIVE PLANTS.
AND SO TERRY WAS SUGGESTING JUST A NOTE THAT C, D AND C CAN PROVIDE SOURCES OF NATIVE PLANTS UPON RECESS.
AND THEN C, D C CAN PROBABLY JUST GIVE A, YOU KNOW, A LIST OF, OF PLACES THAT TYPICALLY CARRY NATIVE PLANTS.
AND THEN, AND THEY CAN YOU, CAN YOU DO THEM? OH, MATT'S NOT HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN DO THAT.
UM, A LIST OF NATIVE PLANTS WE'VE, UH, OR PLACED, UH, LIKE SOURCES, LIKE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN BUY 'EM.
CAN YOU DO THAT? I KNOW YOU CAN'T.
LIKE, I, I ONCE CALLED, UH, AND ASKED AARON, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIMME AN ENGINEER? AND HE WAS LIKE, I CAN'T REALLY DO THAT.
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YEAH, WE CAN'T RECOMMEND.BUT WE CAN SAY, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR AN ENGINEER, WE DO HAVE A LIST OF ENGINEERS WHO HAVE DONE WORK.
IT'S NOT A RECOMMENDATIONS LIST, ESSENTIALLY.
UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
LIKE THERE'S PROSPERO NURSERY, JACKSON N NURSERY AS AN EXAMPLE.
DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH KIND OF THING, OR, OR SAY THAT IT'S NOT A RECOMMENDATION, JUST
NOW, THE NEXT, THE NEXT IS, WELL, MAYBE WE LIMITED THIS, THIS, THE TOWN IS GONNA SET UP A NEW, THE TOWN IS SET UP A NEW COMMITTEE TO STUDY, UM, UM, SUSTAINABLE ENERGY PROJECTS AND TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING IN OUR TOWN CODE ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE GET HIT WITH THE PROJECTS.
LIKE WE WERE, YOU KNOW, HIT WITH, UH, THE, UH, UH, ION LITHIUM BATTERY PROPOSED PROJECT.
WE WERE HIT WITH THE FUEL CELLS, AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING IN THE TOWN'S CODE ABOUT TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF ALL THE NEW IMPORTANT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH, UH, ENERGY THINGS OTHER THAN TRADITIONAL FOSSIL FUELS.
AND IT COULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE SOLAR FARMS AND OTHER THINGS.
SO GEORGE AND LIZ HAVE, UM, BEEN APPOINTED TO THAT COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, UH, GEORGE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SAY, DO YOU KNOW IF A MEETING HAS BEEN SET UP OF THE, MAYBE YOU CAN JUST TELL US YES, NO, WHETHER A MEETING HAS BEEN SET UP OF THAT COMMITTEE YET? NO.
YOU HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYBODY ABOUT THAT COMMITTEE? UH, NO ONE'S CONTACTED ME.
WELL, ARE THERE OTHER, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMITTEE, BUT NOT FROM THE C A C OR, OR IS IT OH, YEAH.
CAC PROJECT? NO, THE PLANNING BOARD.
UM, I NOT SURE WHETHER THE ZONING BOARD, BUT THE PLANNING BOARD FOR SURE.
THE C A C I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE ZONING BOARD WAS.
AND THEN OF COURSE THERE WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THE RELEVANT, UH, PARTS OF, UH, OF STAFF, UH, THERE WOULD BE, UM, I'M SURE THERE'S SOMEONE FROM C D N C, I'M SURE THERE'S SOMEONE FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S SOMEONE FROM, UH, UM, PARKS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT YEAH, NO, IT'S MORE THAN JUST, UH, OKAY.
UH, UH, NO EMAIL OR ANYTHING, GEORGE, ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE.
WELL, UH, NANCY, I THINK YOU CAN JUST SAY WE DISCUSSED THE, UH, TOWN'S FORMATION OF A NEW COMMITTEE, UH, TO ADDRESS, UM, ALTERNATE, UH, YEAH, ALTERNATE, UH, ENERGY SOURCES, UH, SUCH AS, UM, A LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, UH, FUEL CELLS AND SOLAR FARMS. BUT, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, GEORGE AND LIZ HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT, UH, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THERE'S BEEN NO ACTIVITY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN, UM, TERRY, JUST FOR THE FUTURE, ON THE NEXT ITEM, COMMUNITY EDUCATION REGARDING NATIVE PLANTS AND PESTICIDE USE, UM, TERRY JUST, UH, WANTED TO SAY IN THE SPRING SHE THOUGHT WE SHOULD PREPARE FOR THE SUPERVISOR AN EMAIL BLAST REGARDING NATIVE PLANTS AND PESTICIDES.
AND, UH, DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE OR TWO OF THE C A C MEMBERS CAN TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A, UH, A, A BLAST.
I THINK DONNA DID ONE IN CONNECTION WITH, UM, UH, KANYE TREE CUTTING AT ONE TIME, DONNA PREPARED, AND THEN THE SUPERVISOR SENT OUT IN A BLAST.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE SUPERVISOR MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ADD SOMETHING TO IT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE MEATS OF IT WOULD BE PREPARED BY THE C A C.
WE HAD SOME THAT THAT WOULD BE IN THE SPRINGS AT SOMETIME OFF.
UM, MARGARET AND I WORKED ON THAT TOGETHER.
UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK ON THIS IN THE SPRING.
SO YOU CAN, UH, DONNA'S VOLUNTEERED.
ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS IN THIS GROUP? MARGARET, YOU WANT TO DO IT TOO? PUT THE TEAM BACK TOGETHER.
I LIKE WORKING WITH DONNA WITH GOOD.
I, SO, SO MARGARET AND DONNA WERE VOLUNTEERED TO DO THAT.
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OKAY.AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING TO ADD, BUT WE ASKED, UM, YESTERDAY, UH, MATT TO SEE IF C, D AND C HAD ANY UPDATE THAT THEY KNEW OF, OR MARIAN WOODS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO OR DON'T, BUT, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ABOUT IT.
AND, UM, SO I, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE THAT WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF.
WELL, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ITEM AND THEN MAYBE MATT WILL COME BACK.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE, I THINK WE'VE ALL GOTTEN THESE EMAILS FROM SEXUAL ABOUT THE TRAINING FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
AND, UH, IT'S PART OF A TOWN REQUIREMENT THAT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, ALMOST EVERYONE THAT WORKS IN THE TOWN AND, AND, AND, AND, UM, AND BOARD MEMBERS, UH, REQUIRED TO HAVE ANNUAL TRAINING ON SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
AND THERE'S SOME EMAILS, UH, THAT I THINK EVERYONE'S GOT IS, HAS ANYONE NOT RECEIVED EMAILS THAT THEY, ON POTENTIAL DATES FOR THIS TRAINING? IF SOMEONE HASN'T RECEIVED THEM, UM, LET TERRY KNOW AND TERRY CAN FORWARD, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT.
I THINK THEY WENT TO EVERYONE ON THE C A C.
AND SO I THINK, I THINK EVERYONE SIGNED UP LAST YEAR AND I, AND I I THINK IT'S ANNUAL.
NO, I KNOW IT'S ANNUAL BECAUSE I ASKED, UH, IT'S THE SAME LAST YEAR.
SO, UH, HA WHO HAS ANYONE TAKEN IT YET? I DID.
WAS IT THE SAME AS LAST YEAR? YEAH.
'CAUSE YOU, YEAH, YOU GOTTA WATCH OUT FOR ME
I'M SORRY IF I MISSED ANYTHING.
MY VIRTUAL COMPUTER, LIKE THE I'M ON JUST KEEPS CRASHING FOR SOME REASON.
UM, OH, THAT WE, WE, WE'LL, YEAH, WE SKIPPED MARION WOODS.
WE JUST WENT TO THE LAST ITEM OF THE TRAINING.
THERE'S REALLY NOTHING MORE TO SAY.
SO EVERYONE PLEASE SIGN UP BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR ON ONE OF THOSE DATES.
THE TOWN HAS, UH, AND IT LOOKED LIKE THE TOWN HAD A LOT MORE DATES AVAILABLE AND A LOT MORE TIMES IN THE DAY THAN IT DID LAST YEAR.
SO HOPEFULLY IT'S EASY ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY TO DO.
MATT, ALL ON MARIAN WOODS IS SIMPLY A, A NOTED THAT WE HAD ASKED.
WE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OF THE C D C KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S ION WOODS OR NOT, BUT IF YOU DID, WE'RE JUST ASKING US TO, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE INQUIRED OF VARIOUS C A C MEMBERS ABOUT IT, SO JUST IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING.
YEAH, THE UPDATE IS THAT THERE IS NO UPDATE.
UM, OFFICIALLY THEY'RE WITH THE ZONING ZONING BOARD RIGHT NOW, ZONING BOARD.
UM, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SUBMITTING TO THE H AND L P B.
THEY HAVE NOT AS OF YET, MADE A FORMAL SUBMISSION.
THEY'RE ON FOR THE OCTOBER ZONING BOARD MEETING, UH, WHICH IS OCTOBER, UH, 20TH, I THINK.
UM, THAT, THAT'S ALL THE UPDATE I HAVE.
MA MATT, STEPPING BACK ONE, ONE LEVEL OF, UH, ANALYSIS.
DO YOU KNOW IN WHAT IT WOULD BE A FOUR OR FIVE SENTENCE SUMMARY FOR THE CAC MEMBERS AS TO WHAT IT IS THAT BEING TALKED ABOUT AT MION WOODS? UH, THE, THE MANSION ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE, THE, THE ASSISTED NON LIVING FACILITY, THEY WANT TO PARCEL THAT OFF TO ITS OWN LOT IN A SUBDIVISION AND SELL IT AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
THIS REQUIRES SEVERAL VARIANCES.
SO IF SELL IT AS ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND NOT A DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THERE ARE PROPOSING, UM, A SMALL AMOUNT OF SITE WORK, NOT TOUCHING THE BUILDING, THE MANSION ITSELF, BUT, UM, THE ROAD IN, IN FRONT OF IT TO CREATE A PROPER DRIVEWAY AND SOME SCREENING.
DID, DID, DID YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN THEY'RE PROPOSING AND SEEKING A VARIANCE? I, I, YEAH.
I I DON'T MEAN WELL, BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, COULD YOU, UH, DISTRIBUTE THAT IN PART OF WHAT YOU DISTRIBUTE FOR THE NEXT MEETING, JUST SO PEOPLE COULD SEE IT? YEAH, THAT, UH, SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PUBLIC IN THERE.
UH, THEY'RE SEEKING A VARIANCE FROM THE ZBA.
IT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT SOMEHOW I HAVE A, I HAVE A RECOLLECTION.
I'VE SEEN IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD WHERE, IF I COULD FIND IT IN MY, UH, UH, BUT, UH, IF YOU COULD JUST CIRCULATE IT SO WE'D HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
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YOU YOU HAVE IT.SO THIS IS THE MARION, WHICH PROPERTY WITHIN THE HARTS BROOK PARK AND PRESERVE? UM, THIS IS WHERE MY CURSOR IS NOW, IS THAT ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
THERE'S A SMALL BUILDING HERE, THE ACCESS ROAD GOES LIKE THIS, AND THEN HERE'S THIS.
THEY'RE DRIVEWAY AND SOME SMALL SIDE WORK.
SO, SO THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD, UH, JUST BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE CLOSER TO THIS? NO, NO, NO BUILDING, UH, OF ANY HOUSES THIS EXISTS.
THEY'RE JUST CREATING LOT LINES TO SELL IT AS A SEPARATE LOT AND HOUSE.
BUT IS IS, IS IT ALREADY A HOUSE THAT ANYONE'S LIVING IN? AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, IT'S VACANT, BUT I GUESS THEY DON'T WANNA PAY FOR THE UPKEEP OF IT ANYMORE AND THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO RAISE FUNDS AND ALLEVIATE SOME TAX BURDENS AND MAINTENANCE BURDENS.
SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY BUILDING ANYTHING.
THEY'RE JUST, UH, SUBDIVIDING IT AND, AND DOING SOME, UM, SITE WORK AROUND IT AND WELL IN THE DRIVEWAY.
AND WHERE IS THE PARK ITSELF ALL AROUND IT THIS ALL AROUND IT? WELL, IT'S, IT'S, DO YOU LOOK OVER HERE? LET'S SEE.
IF YOU OVER HERE, THIS IS THE SITE, AND THEN THE LARGE PARCEL AROUND IT IS THE PARK.
SO, AND, AND WHERE WOULD YOUR CAR PLEASE, MATT? WHERE WOULD, UH, WHERE IS THIS, THIS ONE BUILDING? IS IT ON, IS IT IN THAT DOT OR IS IT, UH, NO, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT ABOUT WHERE MY CURSOR IS.
AND SO THE QUESTION, DO YOU, YOU MAY NOT KNOW, BUT DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY HOW FAR THE EDGE OF THIS NEW, OF THIS NEW LOT WOULD BE FROM THE PARK? OR IT'D BE ADJACENT TO IT.
AND HOW FAR IS THE HOW? WELL, NO, THIS IS IMPERVIOUS SUR SO YOU'D HAVE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
WHERE, HOW CLOSE WOULD THE NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACES BE TO THE PARK? I'M NOT SURE THERE WOULD BE NEW IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
REALLY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THIS CIRCLE ALREADY, ALREADY, THIS ALREADY EXISTS.
THE CIRCLE TO THE RIGHT, THIS IS LIKE A SEMI PAVED WALKING AREA.
IT'S NOT LIKE A HEDGE OR ANYTHING.
UM, THIS AREA IS ALREADY LIKE A CIRCLE.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE BUMP OUT OF THE STONE CURB HERE, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD A WALL AND SOME LANDSCAPING AND LAWN.
AND THIS PARKING AREA IS, MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT NEW, ANDOUS, BUT IT'S MOSTLY EXISTING.
WELL, BECAUSE, I MEAN, JUST THE IMP THE IMPRESSION I, SOME PEOPLE HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MESSING AROUND WITH THE PARK LIKE THEY ARE.
YEAH, NO, THEY'RE ALL, ALL OFF PARK PROPERTY.
OH, WAIT, TOMORROW, COULD YOU JUST AROUND THIS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'VE JUST SHOWED US, UH, SO EVERYONE HAS A COPY BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE IMPRESSION SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE IS THAT THERE, THERE'S SOME MEGA DISTURBANCE OF THE PARK AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE NO, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
AND THEN PEOPLE WILL HAVE IT IF THEY GET QUESTIONS, UM, THEY GET QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN RESPOND TO IT.
OKAY, GUYS, UH, THAT I, OUR NEXT MEETING IS SEPTEMBER 22, UM, AND, UH, WHICH IS A THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 22.
AND, UM, YEAH, NANCY, I HAVE A POSSIBLE NEW BUSINESS ITEM.
UM, NYSERDA HAS, UM, A PROGRAM CALLED CLIMATE SMART COMMUNITIES, AND THEY HAVE A CERT, A CERTIFIC CERTIFICATION, UH, PROCESS WHERE IF YOU DO CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE ON THEIR LIST, YOU, YOU GET TO BE BRONZE OR GOLD OR SOME LEVEL OF CERTIFICATION, WHICH MAKES YOU ELIGIBLE FOR GRANTS.
AND A NUMBER OF EXPERTS NEARBY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS.
UM, AND SO I WONDER IF WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT IT.
WHO GETS CERTIFIED IS THE MUNICIPALITY, GREENBERG? YEAH.
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YOU PLEASE, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD FORWARD TO MATT ABOUT IT? SURE.PLEASE PUT THEM IN THAT YOU'VE RAISED THE ISSUE YOU FORWARDED TO MATT AND MATT.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF, UM, UM, AND WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, UH, MATT, YOU TELL US WHEN, WHETHER THE NEXT MEETING IS TOO SOON OR NOT, UH, AND GIVE US A, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND CHAT WITH US ABOUT IT, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS WILL BE INTERESTED IN DOING OR NOT.
UH, FOR THAT STUFF, ME, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT, UH, SPEAK WITH GARRETT ABOUT IT AND WE'LL DEVELOP, I MEAN, IT, IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY NEXT MEETING, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST LET US KNOW WHEN, WHEN YOU KNOW, WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT.
HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS BEFORE, MATT? THE CLIMATE SMART COMMUNITIES? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
UM, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN WITH THE CLEAN ENERGY COMMUNITIES, UM, SIDE OF NYSERDA, WHICH WE HAVE RECEIVED, UH, GRANT FUNDING FOR.
AND YOU WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE ON NICER TIME.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, I MEAN, DIGRESSING PUZZLES ME, ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE POWERED BY FOSSIL FUELS, RIGHT? WELL, NOT NECESSARILY.
YOU KNOW THAT YOU NEED ENERGY.
HOW DO YOU MAKE ENERGY? SOLAR.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN? THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BACKUP.
THEY HAVE THESE HUGE, THEY HAVE THESE HUGE JET ENGINES FUELED BY, UM, UH, LIQUID NATURAL GAS BECAUSE THEY CAN START UP VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
THEY START THE TURBOS, THEY START VERY, VERY QUICKLY AS SOON AS THE SOLO RUNS OUT.
READY? WELL, WHAT, WHAT YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING WAS, UH, WAS KIND OF GARBLED.
WHAT, WHAT'S FUELED BY THEY NEED ELECTRICITY.
WHO, HOW DO YOU GET ELECTRICITY? THE, THE ELECTRIC CARS.
THE ELECTRIC CARS NEED ELECTRICITY.
AND, AND WHAT IS IT THAT'S FUELED BY HUGE JET ENGINES? WELL, SO THEY NEED STANDBY POWER TO CREATE ELECTRICITY.
YOU NEED A STANDBY POWER SOURCE BEHIND WIND AND SOLAR.
YOU NEED STANDBY BECAUSE THE WIND DOESN'T ALWAYS BLOW, AND THE SUN DOESN'T ALWAYS SHINE, AND PEOPLE DON'T WANNA BE DIMMED OUT.
SO THE, THE ELECTRIC POWER PLANTS HAVE THESE HUGE JET ENGINES THAT ARE POWERED BY NATURAL GAS, WHICH IS A CLEAN, IT'S CLEANER THAN COAL.
UM, BUT THAT'S HOW THEY'RE FUELED BECAUSE THEY, THEY CAN RAMP UP VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT THAN COAL.
BUT IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A FOSSIL FUEL.
IT COMES, I THINK, PROGRESS ON THINGS LIKE ELECTRIC CARS, PRESUMES STORAGE, ENERGY STORAGE.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, SOLVE THAT.
THERE WAS SOMEPLACE, I FORGET WHERE IT WAS, I WAS READING THE NEWSPAPER.
THEY WERE ASKING PEOPLE TO SOMEHOW RESTRICT THEIR CHARGING OF CALIFORNIA.
YOU THINK? THINK IT WAS, IT WAS CALIFORNIA.
THEY'RE HAVING SUCH A HEAT WAVE.
THEY SENT OUT A SORT OF A ONE-TIME EMAIL ASKING PEOPLE TO TURN DOWN THEIR AC AND UNPLUG THEIR LAMPS, AND, AND IT WORKED.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAD NEVER GONE UP BEFORE, YOU KNOW, SO THERE WASN'T LIKE OLD NEWS AND PEOPLE, PEOPLE RESPONDED.
WELL, THANKS, THANKS FOR RAISING THAT, NANCY.
UH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM THAT, SO NANCY, ACTUALLY, I, I RE WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY THING, IT REMINDED ME THAT I HAD, UM, LOOKED THAT UP AND GREENBERG ACTUALLY IS REGISTERED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CERTIFICATIONS.
RED REGISTERING IS LIKE THE FIRST STEP.
SO I GUESS GREENBERG HAS HEARD OF IT, BUT HASN'T REALLY PROCEEDED WITH IT.
SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S GREAT.
LIKE
BECAUSE IF, IF WE, IF WE IF CAN COMPLETE THAT PROCESS AND GET FUNDING LIKE WE DID ON THE OTHER PROGRAM, THAT'S GOOD.
WITH THE CLEAN ENERGY AWARD, WHAT DID GREENBERG DO TO EARN, YOU KNOW, TO
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EARN THE CAR? KNOW? UH, SO YEAH, SO WE DID, UM, A COMMUNITY SOLAR, UH, AND I THINK THE, YOU GUYS WERE INVOLVED IN AT LEAST SOME OF THIS, UM, WHERE WE HAD TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP, UH, FOR SOME PROGRAM.UH, WHAT ELSE DID WE DO? UM, THAT'S THE ONE I CAN REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SOME STUFF THAT WAS ALREADY LIKE, DONE BEFORE I GOT INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT.
UM, BUT WE DID, WE DID ENOUGH THINGS TO GET ENOUGH POINTS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET TWO 15,000 GRANTS.
AND, AND THEN THAT BOUGHT, THAT BOUGHT ONE, UH, ONE ELECTRIC.
THERE ARE PROBABLY THINGS THAT GREEN IS DOING THAT COULD FIT WITHIN THE RUBRIC OF THESE ITEMS FOR THAT THE CLIMATE SMART COMMUNITIES GROUP IS INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM IS INTERESTED IN.
SO, UH, DONNA, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT? NOPE.
NANCY, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, STEPHANIE, ANYTHING YOU WANNA RAISE WITH US? GEORGE? OKAY.
STEPHANIE, WHAT ARE YOU MA MAJORING IN? UH, POLITICAL SCIENCE.
UM, DO YOU, OH, UM, MATT, UH, STEPHANIE, DO YOU WANNA BE GET ON THE ZOOM? I MEAN, I, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TIME TO DO IT, BUT YOU WANNA GET ON THE MATT TO PUT YOU ON THE ZOOM LIST FOR ALL THE MEETINGS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR IT LIKE YOU DID TODAY? UH, YEAH, IF YOU CAN DO THAT AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF I CAN'T MAKE A MEETING.
MATT, YOU, YOU HAVE STEPHANIE'S, DO YOU, YOU KNOW, OR DO YOU WANT US TO RESEND IT TO YOU? YOU HAVE STEPHANIE'S? UH, I'M PRETTY SURE.
I'M PRETTY SURE I HAVE HER EMAIL.
YEAH, I'LL ADD HER TO THE LIST.
IF YOU DON'T JUST CONTACT ME AND TARA, WE BOTH HAVE A, YOU KNOW, BOTH HAVE OUR INFORMATION.
LET'S SEE, MARGARET AND ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
THANKS EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING.
AND WE'LL, UH, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, SIX 30, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING THAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPE FOR THE NEXT MEETING? UM, MATT, ANYTHING THAT YOU KNOW OF? I HAVE HEARD NOTHING IN TERMS OF RUMORS.
MY OWN THOUGHT IS THAT WITH THE LIFTING OF THE MASK MANDATE ON PUBLIC TRANSIT, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THE ORDER GETS EXTENDED.
WE'LL KNOW FOR SURE, UH, SEPTEMBER 13TH, BUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT MATTER? I'M I'M NOT FOLLOWING WHAT, I'M SORRY.
JUST WHAT'S THE TOPIC YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SO, UH, THE GOVERNOR LIFTED THE MASK MANDATE FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT YESTERDAY.
SO WITH HER LIFTING THAT MANDATE, I DON'T THINK IT IS TERRIBLY LIKELY THAT THE, UM, THE EMERGENCY ORDER ALLOWING US TO DO THESE MEETINGS OVER ZOOM IS GOING TO LAST ANOTHER MONTH.
UM, IT'S ALWAYS POSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S JUST MY ASSUMPTION.
SO, SO THEREFORE, IT MAY BE THAT WE NEED MEETING ROOM.
WE NEED A MEETING, MEETING ROOM FOR THE 22ND.
AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, I, I, I'M TRYING TO SAY, I THOUGHT, I, I THOUGHT THEY MADE A PERMANENT CHANGE TO THE OPEN MEETING LAW ALLOWING THESE MEETINGS.
THEY THEY DID, AND THEY DIDN'T.
THEY DID IT IN ABOUT THE MOST OBSERVATIVE HALF, BUT LOCKED WAY POSSIBLE WHERE YOU STILL NEED A QUORUM IN PERSON.
HOWEVER, ADDITIONAL MEMBERS MAY TELECONFERENCE IN, IN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THEY KIND OF LEFT IT UP TO THE MUNICIPALITIES TO DECIDE WHAT AN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCE IS.
UM, APPLICANTS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN STILL TELECONFERENCE
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IN, BUT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD NEED A QUORUM OR AN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCE TO TELECONFERENCE IN WITHOUT POSTING YOUR ADDRESS AND ALLOWING ANYBODY TO VIEW THE MEETING FROM THERE.WE, WE'LL ROTATE AND WE'LL, AND WHOEVER HAS IT, WE'LL, WE'LL LIST OUR ADDRESS AND WE CAN ALL HAVE COFFEES AND COOKIES AT OUR PLACE, AND WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL ROTATE AND WELL, GEORGE IS SAFE.
HE'S IN DELAWARE
NO, WELL, THAT'S, NO, I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
I READ THAT IN THE NEWSPAPER ESSAY TOO.
THE MASK MANDATE IS, SO IF MASK MANDATES ARE BEING LIFTED ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, UM, PUBLIC MEETINGS SHOULD HAPPEN.
YEAH, WE'LL BE SURE TO LET YOU KNOW, UH, SEPTEMBER 13TH.
LIKE I SAID, WE'LL KNOW FOR SURE IF THE ORDER EXPIRES OR IF IT GETS EXTENDED IS SEPTEMBER 13TH, THE DATE OF THE EXPIRATION PRESENT ORDER.
IT EXPIRES THE 12TH, BUT THEY LIKE TO DO IT LAST MINUTE.
SO THE 13TH IS NEXT TUESDAY, RIGHT? YEP.
WELL, THANKS FOR RAISING THAT BECAUSE I, I CERTAINLY DID NOT PUT THOSE PIECES TOGETHER.