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UH, THE GREENBERG, UH,

[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]

TOWN BOARD MEETING.

IT'S THE WORK SESSION NOVEMBER, UH, FIRST AFTER, UH, FOUR 30.

AND, UM, UH, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS SPRINGWOOD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND, UM, THERE'S A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS SS MATTERS.

YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

I, WE WILL BE COMING BACK.

OKAY, PAUL, UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS IS, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY YOU CANNOT ADDRESS THE REST OF THE AGENDA AND THEN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, I'M ASKING PAUL.

I DON'T HAVE ANY, IS THERE ANY REASON, ANY PROBLEM? I'M LEAVING.

I HAVE TO LEAVE AT FIVE 30 IF YOU GOING, UM, SO LET ME JUST ASK A, UH, WELL THAT'S THE AGENDA.

LET'S FOLLOW THE AGENDA.

I'M, I'M JUST ASKING.

I THINK THAT'S THE REASON HAS TO LEAVE.

EXCUSE ME, I'M ASKING PAUL.

YEAH, IF THERE'S AN OPEN, IF THERE'S AN OPEN SESSION, I'D RATHER BE PART OF THE OPEN SESSION.

SO I'M JUST SAYING THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER, WE HAVE TO PICK A DATE.

SO WAIT A MINUTE.

SO WAIT A MINUTE.

ARE RECHART, ARE WE, SO WE ARE NOT GOING IN OPEN.

I'M, I'M, I'M ASKING PAUL.

NO, I THINK THAT'S .

IS THERE ANY REASON WHY YOU CANNOT ADDRESS THE REST OF THE AGENDA? THERE'S ONLY, THERE'S ONLY TWO MUCH ITEMS, SO IT'S ONLY GONNA TAKE, SO WHY DON'T WE JUST FOR FIVE MINUTES, WHY DON'T WE JUST DO THE, THE LEAK BLOWER LAWYER, YOU, YOU INDICATED YOU'LL HAVE THAT AT, AT THE NEXT, UH, WORK SESSION.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S FINE.

SO THAT'S DONE WITH NEXT ONE SESSION AND, UH, THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, WOULD YOU WANT TO DO IT ON, UM, SATURDAY? I'M NOT AVAILABLE.

SATURDAY, TWO WEEKS NOT AVAILABLE.

TWO, I'M NOT AVAILABLE.

SATURDAY I COULD DO IT.

OKAY.

SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA WORK FOR ME.

SO THEN WE, WE DON'T HAVE, UM, WE SHOULD ALL REALLY BE THERE AT THE SAME UNDERSTOOD.

UNDERSTOOD.

WE JUST NEED TO FIND A COMMON TIME THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.

NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING.

SO MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK, WEEK, ARE WE ACCEPTING THE MOTION? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING, BUT THEN I I'M NOT AT PROCEDURE HAS TO TAKE IT BACK.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PROBLEM.

IT'S BASICALLY CONCESSION.

JUDITH, JUDITH MADE A ARE WE AN SESSION? I I THOUGHT YOU MAYBE WANTED TO OPEN IT BACK UP AND THEN PLACE THIS ON THE RECORD LATER.

BUT NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE A LONG DISCUSSION.

IT'S NOT A LONG DISCUSSION BECAUSE BASICALLY WE, WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD JUST, UH, WE WILL TAKE ONE SECOND IF WE CAN'T ASK.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANNA STAY AROUND.

DON'T TO COME BACK OPEN SESSION.

YOU JUST HAVE JOAN SEND A NO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CONTROVERSY.

NO, NO, THERE'S NO, BUT I, NO, LET, CAN I JUST EXPLAIN MY CONFUSION? I THOUGHT WE ARE OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE I SAID SECOND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT.

BUT THERE WAS NO, I THERE WAS NO, THERE WAS NO VOTE ON IT.

SO, SO I DURING WHEN YOU SAID SECOND THERE WAS NO VOTE.

SO IT IS PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE FOR A QUESTIONS BE PLACED ON THE TABLE.

AND THEN FOR THE PERSON WHO BY LAW IS THE ONE WHO PROCEEDS, UM, OVER THE MEETINGS TO SAY, OKAY, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ITEMS FOR, SO WE DON'T NEED TO RESEND THE RESEND A SECOND SESSION.

OKAY.

SO WE ARE RESCINDED, BUT IT IS ALL THIS IS GONNA TAKE FIVE SECONDS.

NO MA'AM.

NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE TIME.

I'M NOT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.

SO DON'T WE, DON'T WE NEED TO, DON'T WE NEED TO, DON'T WE NEED TO RESEND THE SECOND? I DID TOO.

THEN I'M RESEND I'M RESCINDING MY MOTION.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

THAT'S, SO THAT'S LET MOTION, SECOND RES MOTION, LET JUST SAY, DOES IT WORK? THIS WILL TAKE FUN.

LET LET HER RESCIND HER MOTION AS WELL.

I JUST WANT, DO I JUST WANNA BE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURE.

THAT'S ALL PAUL'S MOTION.

AND GINA, I RESCIND MY MOTION.

OH, EXCELLENT.

RESCIND SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO STAND.

OKAY, WELL IT DOESN'T MATTER.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

NOW THE MAIN THING IS WE HAVE THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER.

MM-HMM.

, DO WE WANT TO SELECT THE DATE NOW? SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GET BACK INTO NOW THE SESSION, RIGHT? DO WE, DO WE WANT HER, DO WE WANT HER, UM, IS IT US FOR NO, IT'S NOT US.

NO.

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS SELECT DATE.

WELL, PAUL, WE'RE TRYING TO DO PROCEDURAL NOW YOU HAVE TO GO BACK INTO OPEN SESSION.

THAT'S JUST A COMMENTARY.

JUST SAID, THAT'S ALL.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

OKAY, I MOVE.

SO WE'RE BACK IN OPEN SESSION AND THE QUESTION IS FOR THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER, YOU ALL AGREED THAT WE WERE GONNA DO A SITE VISIT AT THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER, RIGHT? AND THEN TAKE FOR ONE SECOND.

IS THIS, THIS ISN'T BEING RECORDED.

IT IS SO MESS.

NO, IT'S NOT A MESS.

IT'S NOT A MESS.

WE, OKAY, SO ARE WE GOING OUT LOUD? SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO, DO WE WANT TO SELECT A DATE NOW OR WOULD THE BOARD PREFER TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AND THEN WE COULD SELECT THE DATE IN A WEEK OR SO? COUNCILMAN JONES PUT ON THE TABLE.

I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE HEARD IT.

I HEARD IT AT THIS END OF THE TABLE THAT PERHAPS THAT JONES SENT OUT AN EMAIL SERVING EVERYONE'S AVAILABILITY AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK SO WE CAN SET A TIME.

PERFECT.

EXCELLENT.

THAT'S GREAT.

OKAY, SO THEN THAT'S, WE'RE DONE WITH THAT.

THE LEAD BLOWER IS GONNA BE DONE.

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UM, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IN, IN TWO WEEKS AND NOW WE CAN JUST, UM, WHAT IS IT? WE PUT IT ON AGENDA.

I WILL GET A PROPOSED LAW TO THE BOARD WITHIN TWO WEEKS SO THAT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION YOU WILL HAVE THE PROPOSED LAW IN FRONT OF YOU AND WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION.

SO THAT WORK SESSION'S IN, IN TWO WEEKS THE 15TH.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO THAT MEANS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR THE MEETING AFTER THAT.

THIS IS JUST, THIS IS JUST TO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU BY THE NEXT WORK SESSION, NOT TO HAVE IT INTRODUCED AT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING.

OH, OKAY.

GREAT.

OH, AND THEN THE, THE LAST THING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, THE SMOKE SHOP.

UM, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF WE WOULD HAVE TO RENO IF WE HAVE TO RE-NOTICE IT, BUT, UM, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE PROPOSED, UH, LAW WAS TOO BROAD BECAUSE IT BASICALLY SAID THERE CAN'T BE ADVERTISING TOWN WIDE.

I, I, I'VE BEEN EMAILING DYLAN FROM THE EC EDGE ONE COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND WE'VE ALL BASICALLY AGREED THAT IT COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S LIKE 750, IF THERE ARE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES THAT ARE MADE, IT SHOULD BE THAT ADJOURNED FOR A FUTURE COURT.

SO SHOULD WE RESCHEDULE THE HEARING AT THE NEXT MEETING OR IF THAT'S WHAT THE ENTIRE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO? I THINK WE NEED SOME LEGAL ADVICE ON THAT.

OKAY.

SO THEN MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU.

WHICH IS WHY I THOUGHT WE'D HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN COME BACK AND DO OPEN SESSION SO WE CAN DISCUSS.

UM, PAUL, WITH REGARDS TO PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARDS, YOU HAVE IN PARENTHESES HERE, SET UP A FUTURE ZOOM MEETING.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND ON THAT ITEM? JUST THAT WE, THEY'RE YOU'RE ASKING FOR, I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, REAPPOINT THE MEMBERS WHO, UM, HAVE BEEN SERVING AND WORKING REALLY HARD AND WE COULD INTERVIEW THEM IF THE BOARD WANTS TO INTERVIEW.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING IS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BUDGET, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THE BOARD, UH, WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE, THE PROPOSED BUDGET? DO YOU WANT TO, UM, INTERVIEW CALL AND EVERYBODY? UM, YES.

YES.

OKAY.

SO WANNA FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE? WE JUST GOT THE BUDGET NOW.

YEAH.

WE NEED TO REVIEW IT.

THE BUDGET APPARENTLY WENT OUT LAST WEEK.

WE JUST GOT IT NOW.

RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO REVIEW IT HERE.

SO YOU PREVIOUSLY TOLD US THERE WOULD BE A TAX INCREASE.

NOW THERE ISN'T.

WELL, WHAT DID YOU DO? SO HOW DO WE DO? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.

HOW DO, HOW DO WE GET, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A WELL RUN TOWN AND UH, WE, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY PROUD OF TAX INCREASE DOES NOT EQUAL TO WELL RUN TOWN.

WELL, I WAS A REFERENCE.

WE WERE, IF IT'S A WELL RUN TOWN NOW, IT WAS A WELL RUN RUN TOWN TWO WEEKS AGO.

WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT THE THING IS, I'M NOT GONNA TAX PEOPLE UNNECESSARILY.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT ORIGINALLY, I THOUGHT ORIGINALLY THAT THERE WOULD BE A TAX INCREASE AND IT TURNED OUT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A BUDGET WITHOUT A TAX INCREASE.

AND I ALSO, UH, MET LAST WEEK, UM, BEFORE I SUBMITTED THE BUDGET WITH OUR, UH, TOWN'S, UM, AUDITORS.

AND I HAD THEM LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND I TOLD THEM THAT, I ASKED THEM IF THEY, IF THEY THOUGHT THAT, UM, I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A POLITICAL BUDGET.

I WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TOWN, UM, AND HAVE THE LEAST POSSIBLE, UM, TAX RATE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING.

AND THEY, THEY SAID, UH, THAT THEY FELT VERY CONFIDENT THAT, UH, BOTH THE B BUDGET AND THE A BUDGET COULD HAVE A FLAT TAX OR ACTUALLY WE HAVE A TAX DECREASE IN BOTH.

WHICH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IS GREAT.

THIS IS FOUR YEARS IN A ROW WITH NO TAX INCREASE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD OF.

AND, AND, UM, AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN I, THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS VOTING TODAY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE REALLY, REALLY STRUGGLING AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT NOT EVERYBODY COULD AFFORD TAX HIKES.

I UNDERSTAND.

I'M JUST ASKING WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

'CAUSE YOU REPORTED TO US THAT THERE WOULD BE A TAX.

YEAH.

FIRST OF ALL, AND THEN WE READ IN YOUR BUDGET MESSAGE.

YOU KNOW, I'M BASICALLY, I WANT, I WANT, I WANNA BE, UH, CONSERVATIVE AND ERR ON THE SIDE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WORST CASE SCENARIOS.

I THOUGHT IF WE HAD TO DO A TAX INCREASE, I WOULD'VE DONE A TAX INCREASE.

BUT, UH, IT TURNS OUT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO STAY WITH OUR FUND BALANCE ON, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, POLICY AND IT'S, AND, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE REVENUES ARE, YOU KNOW, IN GOOD SHAPE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I I FEEL THAT THE TOWN'S IN, IN EXCELLENT FINANCIAL SHAPE.

AND WHEN WE MEET, WHEN WE MEET WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, ROBERTA, UM, WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS, I'M SURE YOU'LL, YOU'LL FEEL THAT THIS IS A GREAT BUDGET.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE ARE STRUGGLING.

WELL, I PROMISE YOU WE UNDERSTAND THAT TOTALLY.

BECAUSE

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WE ALL STRUGGLING AT THE TABLE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT CHANGED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS WHERE IT WENT , BECAUSE YOU WERE ADAMANT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUST CURIOUS.

'CAUSE BASIC, I I, I WAS WORKING DAY AND NIGHT ON THE BUDGET WITH ROBERTA AND AS WE, AS WE GOT CLOSER TO MAY FINALIZING THE DETAILS OF THE BUDGET, WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A TAX DECREASE, WHICH I'M PROUD OF.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S GREAT.

AND WHEN WE GET INTO DISCUSSING THAT BUDGET, I'M HOPING YOU CAN TELL US THAT WHERE DID YOU FIND THE MONEY THAT CHANGED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS? THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

OKAY, WELL YOU'LL, WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS, THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

IS THERE EVERYTHING I OPEN THE SESSION? YES, YOU DO.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY.

YOU MAKE THE MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SECOND ON IN FAVOR IS PURPOSE.

PURPOSE.

RIGHT.

LEGAL ADVICE AND UH, WITH THE GREENBERG NATURE CENTER, UM, AND PERSONNEL MATTERS.

PERSONNEL MATTERS.

OKAY.

AND THE NATURE CENTER IS ABOUT A CONTRACTUAL IN ISSUE, CORRECT? YES.

WE A SECOND.

SECOND, FEBRUARY AYE.

OKAY.

UM,