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TO THE GREENBERG TOWN BOARD MEETING.TODAY IS NOVEMBER 9TH AND IT'S, UM, CLOSE TO SEVEN 30, WITHIN A HALF HOUR, GIVE OR TAKE.
UM, AND, UM, AND TODAY'S OUR TOWN BOARD
[ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
MEETING.SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC.
FOR WHICH STANDS? WHICH STANDS? ONE NATION, NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[ MOMENT OF SILENCE In memory of the 1,062,721+ individual victims of COVID-19 who have died in the United States, 6,583,163+ deaths worldwide, each leaving family members and friends too soon In memory of the people in Ukraine killed during Russia's invasion and relentless intentional targeted bombing of civilians in apartment buildings, hospitals, train stations, schools and children centers, with mass graves being found after invaded areas have been retaken, all in Russia's effort to destroy Ukraine and its people, who are forced to fight for their land, their freedom, and general democratic principles. May they rest in peace and peace be restored to Ukraine In memory of Kenneth D. Lee, known as Kenny Lee, Jazz trumpeter, who received his first trumpet lesson from his father, and played trumpet in the White Plains elementary and high school jazz and marching bands. After graduation, Kenny joined the United States Marine Corp and played four years in the United States Marine Corps Band. After honorable discharge at the rank of Sergeant E-4, he spent 22 years with the White Plains Police Department and retired as a Detective 1st grade. His career continued as a Criminal Investigator for the Bank of New York, retiring 17 years later as the Regional Security Manager. During all of this period of time, Kenny continued to play trumpet and later studied trumpet at the Westchester Conservatory of Music in White Plains. He and his band, the Kenny Lee Orchestra, played at the town’s Summer Concert series at Yosemite Park, and mentored aspiring Jazz musicians, and brought joy to the community. Kenny gained the respect of jazz musicians throughout the tri-state area. His music will live in our memories forever.]
UM, WE HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN MEMORY OF KENNETH LEE.AND KENNETH LEE WAS A GS TRUMPETER WHO RECEIVED HIS FIRST TRUMPET LESSON FROM HIS FATHER AND PLAYED TRUMPET IN THE WHITE PLAINS ELEMENTARY AND HIGH SCHOOL JAZZ IN MARCHING BANDS.
AFTER GRADUATION, KENNY JOINED THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS AND PLAYED FOUR YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS BANDS AFTER HE WAS HONORABLY DISCHARGED, THE RANK OF SERGEANT E FOUR, HE SPENT 22 YEARS WITH THE WHITE PLAINS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND RETIRED AS A DETECTIVE.
HIS CAREER CONTINUED AS A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR FOR THE BANK OF NEW YORK, RETIRING 17 YEARS LATER AS THE REGIONAL SECURITY MANAGER.
DURING ALL OF THIS PERIOD OF TIME, KENNY CONTINUED TO PLAY TRUMPET AND LATER STUDIED TRUMPET AT THE WESTCHESTER CONSERVATORY OF MUSIC AND WHITE PLAINS.
HE AND HIS BAND, THE KENNY LEE ORCHESTRA, PLAYED AT THE TOWN SUMMER CONCERT SERIES IN YOSEMITE PARK AND MENTORED MANY ASPIRING JAZZ MUSICIANS AND BROUGHT JOY TO THE COMMUNITY.
KENNY GAINED THE RESPECT OF JAZZ MUSICIANS THROUGHOUT THE TRI-STATE AREA, BUT HIS MUSIC WILL LIVE ON IN OUR MEMORIES FOREVER.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD THAT KENNY LEE WAS HIGHLY REGARDED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY IN WHICH HE LIVED.
HE ALSO RESPONDED TO NUMEROUS REQUESTS BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO PERFORM AT VARIOUS EVENTS, VARIOUS MEMORIAL TRIBUTES AND VETERANS DAY CEREMONIES.
HE WAS AN AMAZING PERSON AND GENEROUS AND GIVING AND GOOD.
IF THERE WAS EVER A MAN YOU SKIPPED OVER TWO.
RIGHT IN MEMORY OF THE 1,062,721 INDIVIDUAL VICTIMS OF C OVID 19 HAVE DIED IN THE UNITED STATES.
6,583,163 DEATHS WORLDWIDE, EACH LEAVING FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS, UH, TOO SOON.
AND A MEMORY OF THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE KILLED DURING RUSSIA'S INVASION AND RELENTLESS, INTENTIONAL TARGETED BOMBINGS OF CIVILIANS AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS, HOSPITALS, TRAIN STATION SCHOOLS, AND CHILDREN'S CENTERS WITH MASS GRAVES BEING FOUND AFTER INVADED AREAS HAVE BEEN RETAKEN ALL IN THE RU IN RUSSIA'S EFFORT TO DESTROY UKRAINE.
AND ITS PEOPLE WHO ARE FORCED TO FIGHT FOR THE LAND, THEIR FREEDOM AND GENERAL DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES.
MAY THEY REST IN PEACE AND PEACE BE RESTORE IT TO UKRAINE.
[ ROLL CALL: Town Clerk]
FOR THE ROLL CALL COUNCIL SUPERVISOR PAUL FIGHTER HERE, COUNCILWOMAN ELLEN HENDRICKS.PRESENT COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON.
COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEN, PRESENT AND INTERIM TOWN ATTORNEY JOE DANKO.
[ Introduction of Entry-Level Police Officer Jessica Devito Promotion of Sergeant Nathaniel Reckson to Lieutenant Promotion of Police Officer Thomas Nee to Sergeant]
GOOD.NEXT, UM, WE HAVE, UH, THE POLICE, UH, DEPARTMENT CEREMONIES, UM, AND, UM, I'LL CALL UP THE POLICE CHIEF CHIEF AND FOR THE, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE PARTICIPATING BY ZOOM, UH, THERE'S A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY IN THE STUDIO.
WHEN THEY TURNED ON THE ZOOM THIS, THIS EVENING, IT WANTED THEM TO DO A COMPLETE UP UPDATE AND CONTACT THE IT AND APPARENTLY BECAUSE WE'RE A SOPHISTICATED ZOOM ROOM, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE RIGHT BEFORE A MEETING.
AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY GAVE THEM 24 HOURS NOTICE BEFORE I HAD TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY RUNNING OFF OF MY LAPTOP, SO THE, UH, AUDIO MAY NOT BE QUITE AS CLEAR AS IT NORMALLY WOULD BE IF I HAVE REASON TO SMILE.
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CHIEF.IT'S WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT I'M GONNA INTRODUCE THREE OF OUR OFFICERS TONIGHT THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US SOME TIME AND ONE THAT HAS BEEN WITH US SOMETIME IN CAPACITY.
UM, I'LL BE STARTING WITH LIEUTENANT NATHANIEL.
ARE YOU SURE THAT'S NOT A MISTAKE? YEAH.
NATHANIEL RECKSON JOINED THE GREENVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN AUGUST OF 1998, WHERE HE WAS ASSIGNED TO THE PATROL DIVISION AS A POLICE OFFICER AND E M T NICK HAS SERVED ON THE DEPARTMENT'S TECHNICAL RESCUE TEAM AS A PATROL SCHEDULER FROM DECEMBER, 2006 UNTIL JUNE, 2008.
HE TOOK OVER POST 91 DUTIES IN HARTSDALE FOR THE DEPARTMENT'S COMMUNITY AFFAIRS UNIT FOR A TIME.
HE WAS PROMOTED TO SERGEANT IN DECEMBER, 2009 AND SERVED AS A PATROL SERGEANT UNTIL JUNE, 2010 WHEN HE WAS ASSIGNED TO THE THEN NEWLY CREATED PLANNING AND ANALYSIS UNIT.
IN JANUARY, 2014, NICK TOOK OVER THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY UNIT.
DURING HIS TIME AS THE COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE TRAFFIC UNIT, HE WON SIX AAA PLATINUM AWARDS IN COMMUNITY TRAFFIC AND SAFETY.
NICK IS ESSENTIALLY A GREENBERG LIFER.
HE WAS BORN IN HARTSDALE ON OAK STREET OFF OF JANE, LIVED THERE UNTIL HIS FAMILY MOVED TO EDGEMONT IN 1982.
HE GRADUATED FROM EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL IN 1990, WENT ON TO GRADUATE FROM SUNY PURCHASE AND NOW LIVES IN GREENBURG'S MAYFAIR ACRES NEIGHBORHOOD WITH HIS WIFE NATALIE, HIS OLDEST DAUGHTER, MADISON, AND HIS YOUNGEST DAUGHTER MACKENZIE, WHO ARE ALL PROUDLY HERE WITH HIM TONIGHT.
NOT THE ONE WITH THE EXTRA LONG PIN.
TOM IS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TARRYTOWN AND A GRADUATE OF FORDHAM PREP HIGH SCHOOL.
HE CONTINUED HIS EDUCATION EARNING A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF SCRANTON.
AFTER GRADUATING, TOM BEGAN HIS CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH THE MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
DURING HIS THREE YEARS AT THE DA'S OFFICE, HE WAS ASSIGNED TO A TRIAL BUREAU AND THE COLD CASE HOMICIDE UNIT WHERE HE WORKED ALONGSIDE ADAS AND N Y P D DETECTIVES AS AN INTELLIGENCE ANALYST.
IN 2015, TOM WAS HIRED BY THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THROUGHOUT THE PAST SEVEN YEARS AT GREENBURG PD, TOM HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO THE PATROL DIVISION CONDITIONS UNIT WESTCHESTER COUNTY REAL-TIME CRIME TASK FORCE, AND IS CURRENTLY A MEMBER OF THE MOBILE COMMAND AND CRISIS NEGOTIATION TEAMS. TOM IS JOINED TONIGHT BY HIS PARENTS, NOREEN AND TOM, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY HIS WIFE, ALYSSA, AND THEIR FOUR MONTH OLD SON RYAN.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, IS JESSICA DEVITO.
JESSICA SPENT HER EARLY YEARS LIVING IN GREENBURG BEFORE MOVING TO BEDFORD HILLS.
SHE ATTENDED WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND EARNED AN ASSOCIATES DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND A CERTIFICATE IN PARAMEDICINE.
JESSICA STARTED HER E M S CAREER WORKING FOR TRANSCARE ATMT VERNON BEFORE COMING TO GREENBURG AND BEING HIRED AS A PARAMEDIC.
SHE HAS WORKED FOR THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A PER DIEM PARAMEDIC FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
IN 2016, SHE MADE THE JUMP INTO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE FIELD AND BEGAN WORKING AS A CORRECTION
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OFFICER.IN 2020, SHE BECAME A POLICE OFFICER WITH THE HASTINGS OR HUDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
JESSICA'S DREAM WAS ALWAYS TO BE A POLICE OFFICER THAT SHE ALWAYS RETAINED HER PASSION FOR E M SS.
SHE'S EXCITED TO JOIN THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHERE SHE WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE IN BOTH CAPACITIES SIMULTANEOUSLY.
SHE'S JOINED HERE TONIGHT BY HER HUSBAND MIKE, AND PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING JESSICA DEVITO TO THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT FAMILY.
WE HAVE TWO APPROVE THESE APPOINTMENT.
OKAY, SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO MOVE, UM, PA ONE RESOLUTION PROMOTING SERGEANT, UH, NATHANIEL REON TO LIEUTENANT AND POLICE OFFICER THOMAS NEE, UM, TO, TO SERGEANT.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE WE PREVIOUSLY APPOINTED, UM, JESSICA D AS YES, YOU DO SECOND.
SO WE NEED TO, DO YOU HAVE TO SECOND IT? DON'T WE HAVE TO SECOND IT? YES.
YOU'RE REQUIRED TO, UH, ENDURE A PICTURE WITH, SO WHO DO I NOW SEND ALL MY EMAILS TO? BENJAMIN, I, WE JUST LET THEM HERE.
UM, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS I'VE, UM, REFERRED, I KEEP EMAILING, UH, LIEUTENANT, UH, REON DAY, NIGHT WEEKEND, AND HE'S LIKE THE MOST, ONE OF THE MOST RESPONSIVE PEOPLE THAT I'VE EVER, UH, MET IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
UH, HE RESPONDS IN THE EVENING, LATE AT NIGHT.
I THINK ONE YEAR THERE WAS A DEAD DEER AND SOMEBODY WAS PANICKING AND HE JUST WENT TO THE HOUSE AND, AND PICKED IT UP AND GOT RID OF IT.
BUT HE, HE REALLY GIVES LIKE A MILLION PERCENT TO THE TOWN.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FANTASTIC, UH, POLICE IN THE TOWN AND VERY, VERY DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANTS.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THE RESPONSIVENESS, UM, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINTS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY OFFICERS AND, UH, EMPLOYEES IN THE TOWN WHO REALLY GIVE IT THEIR ROLE.
I, I AGREE WITH ALL TOWN SUPERVISOR.
UM, WELL, WE ALL APPRECIATE, WE ALL APPRECIATE, WHILE WE ALL APPRECIATE GREENBERG'S FINEST, THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE WORKS VERY CLOSELY WITH SERGEANT.
WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FIND OUR WAY THROUGH THE JOURNEY OF VARIOUS PERMITS AND APPROVALS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IF IT WERE NOT FOR LIEUTENANT REXTON.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE HIS IMMEDIATE RESPONSES TO ANY REQUESTS FOR STREET CLOSINGS AND FOR ANY REQUESTS REGARDING
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FILMING PERMITS AND JUST ANY REQUESTS FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE.WE GREATLY APPRECIATE HIS PARTNERSHIP AND SUPPORT.
AND CON SERGEANT REON, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THE OFFICERS.
UM, NEXT, UM, ON THE AGENDA, UM, IT'S WITH GREED ON, UM, HI.
WOULD THOSE ROWDY POLICE OFFICERS PLEASE MOVE OUT TO THE LOBBY
[ PRESENTATIONS The Mental Health Association of Westchester - Patrice Ingrassia and Gerald Stern]
NEXT ON THE AGENDA? UM, IT'S WITH GREAT PRIDE AND, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE RECOGNIZING BOTH THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION OF WESTCHESTER AND PATRICE, UM, AND GRACIA.UH, THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION OF WESTCHESTER, UH, PROVIDES, UM, OUTSTANDING MENTAL HEALTH, UM, THROUGH ADVOCACY, COMMUNITY EDUCATION, AND DIRECT SERVICES.
AND THEY SERVE THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EACH YEAR HELPING THEM, UH, LIVE INDEPENDENT AND BETTER LIVES IN, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, PATRICE, UM, AND GRACIA, UM, SHE IS NO STRANGER, UM, TO THE TOWN BOARD OR, UM, OR TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, BECAUSE SHE HAS, UM, GIVEN, UM, UP HER TIME TRYING TO MAKE, UH, GREENBERG BETTER.
ALONG WITH, UM, CHRISTINE BRODA, UH, SHE'S SUPPORTED, UM, THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION AND OTHER LOCAL NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
FOR MANY YEARS, PATRICE HAS SERVED ON THE BOARD OF THE FRIENDS OF THE ROCKEFELLER STATE PARK PRESERVE.
SHE'S BEEN A LEADING MEMBER OF THE HARTSDALE NEIGHBORHOODS ASSOCIATION, AND SHE SERVED ON COUNTY EXECUTIVE GEORGE LATTIMER'S, WRONG WAY, DRIVING COMMITTEE OF THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY.
UM, RIS AND, UH, CHRISTINE ARE CO-FOUNDERS OF INSPIRED PLACES, WHICH HAS BEEN LEADING THE EFFORT TO TRANSFORM THE FAILING FOUR CORNERS INTO SECTION OF HARTSDALE, INTO A IZED AND VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD FOCUSED, UM, AREA.
BUT WE'RE RECOGNIZING RIS, UM, TODAY BECAUSE, UM, SHE, UM, WAS RECENTLY HONORED, UM, FOR, UM, BY THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION, UM, RECOGNIZING HER YEARS OF PHILANTHROPY AND COMMIT COMMITMENT TO BUILDING A STRONGER COMMUNITY.
IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT SHE HAS THE TIME TO NOT ONLY HELP THE TOWN, BUT ALSO HELP, UM, UH, THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION AND, YOU KNOW, KNOW MANY, YOU KNOW, MANY OTHERS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION NOW, UM, IS PARTNERING WITH THE GREENBERG POLICE.
THEY HAVE A MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, UM, AND, UM, THE TOWN BOARD.
AND I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE PATRICE'S DEDICATION, DEDICATED SERVICE, UH, TO THE TOWN AND, UM, AND WORKING HARD TO MAKE OUR REGION A SAFER AND BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
AND WE'VE DECLARING NOVEMBER 9TH AS PATRICE AND GRASSY DAY IN GREENBURG.
SO SINCE WE'RE RECOGNIZING A HOLIDAY NOW, WE COULD CLOSE THE MEETING AND WE COULD CELEBRATE
THAT WOULD BE A GREAT MENTAL HEALTH SUGGESTION, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF WE CLOSE THE MEETING, NOBODY WILL HAVE ANXIETY, UM, FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING, FOR THE REST OF THE EVENING.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO, UM, UM, PRESENT YOU WITH THE PROCLAMATION AND ALSO THE MENTAL AND, UH, J UH, GERALD, UH, STERN.
AND MAYBE YOU COULD SAY A FEW WORDS.
WE NEED SOMETHING FOR OUR WEBSITE.
[ SUPERVISOR & TOWN COUNCIL REPORTS/ANNOUNCEMENTS GOOD NEWS...The Town continues (since 2008) to have the highest possible bond rating from Standard & Poors (AAA) and (since 2010) (Aaa) from Moody's. Less than 1% of communities in the nation have this record of financial stability. Recently, on 3/23/2021, Moody's reaffirmed the Town earned Moody's highest rating and, on 03/26/2021, Standard & Poors once again reaffirmed the Town earned Standard & Poors highest rating. Anyone interested in serving on a board or commission should send a resume to the Town Board via Judith A. Beville, Town Clerk, 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Any individual or group interested in a visit from the Town Board should email the Board at TownBoard@GreenburghNY.com ]
SO GERALD, WOULD YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION? I'M, I'M GONNA LETI REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I SPOKE UP AT A TOWN BOARD MEETING.
I WAS VERY NERVOUS AND WE WERE TRYING TO CLOSE THAT HORRIBLE MASSAGE PARLOR ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
WE SUCCEEDED WITH THAT REVITALIZATION AT FOUR CORNERS.
UM, AND I WANNA SAY TO MY, UH, FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS,
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I'VE LIVED HERE 30 YEARS AND, UM, I DON'T THINK MY FAMILY'S STORY IS PROBABLY TOO MUCH DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S.UM, MY FAMILY, MY FAMILY'S CHARITABLE WORK STARTED WITH MY GRANDMOTHER AND ITALIAN IMMIGRANT, VERY POOR FAMILY ON THE LOWER EAST SIDE.
SHE WAS PUT IN FIRST GRADE AT THE AGE OF 12 'CAUSE SHE COULDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH, AND SHE WAS MORTIFIED.
SO SHE SOUGHT, TAUGHT HERSELF ENGLISH THAT YEAR, AND SHE GOT TO FOURTH GRADE WHEN SHE BECAME A YOUNG ADULT.
MY AUNT TELLS ME THE HOUSE WAS ALWAYS FILLED WITH OTHER IMMIGRANTS BECAUSE SHE USED HER READING AND WRITING SKILLS TO TRANSLATE DOCUMENTS FOR PEOPLE AND WRITE LETTERS AND SO ON.
UM, AND I THINK THEY HAD NO MONEY TO GIVE BY THE WAY THEY WERE POOR OR PRETTY POOR UNTIL THEY PASSED AWAY.
BUT I THINK WHAT SHE GAVE WAS THE SPIRIT OF CHARITABLE WORKS TO MY FATHER, WHO WAS AN INCREDIBLE ATHLETE, GREW UP PLAYING HANDBALL IN NEW YORK CITY PARKS, UM, BUT COULDN'T GO ANYWHERE WITH THE SKILL UNTIL THE NEW YORK ATHLETIC CLUB SPONSORED HIM.
AND HE BECAME A NATIONAL HANDBALL CHAMPION.
HE LOOKED AT WHAT WAS DONE FOR HIM, AND HE BECAME A MEMBER OF THE NEW YORK ATHLETIC CLUB, EVENTUALLY ROSE TO BE PRESIDENT AND STARTED THE NEW YORK CITY ATHLETES, NEW YORK ATHLETIC CLUB ATHLETES FUND, WHICH PROVIDES, UH, FUNDS TOWARDS ORGANIZATIONS IN, IN THE INNER CITY AND EVEN IN, UM, THE SURROUNDING BOROUGHS, INCLUDING WESTCHESTER, UM, TO PROGRAMS FOR KIDS FOR NEEDING, UH, NOT-FOR-PROFITS THAT SERVE THEM.
AND HE STARTED A FUNDRAISING, UH, EVENT FOR THE NATIONAL HISTIOCYTOSIS ASSOCIATION WHEN A FRIEND OF HIS, UH, HAD A CHILD WHO, UH, WAS VERY ILL WITH IT.
HE RAISED MONEY FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR, UM, TO SUPPORT THEIR MISSION, UH, ABROAD, UH, AND TO BE ABLE TO, UH, SERVE THE SERVICE PEOPLE IN THE MILITARY.
THERE WASN'T ANYTHING HE WOULDN'T DO FOR SOMEBODY.
AND I THINK ANYBODY WHO'S A PARENT, UM, KNOWS THE POWER THAT THEY HAVE TO INFLUENCE THEIR CHILDREN.
HIS MOTHER DID IT FOR HIM AND HE DID IT FOR ME.
SO WHEN MY FRIEND, UH, WAS THE FORMER C E O OF THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION, ASKED ME TO HELP WITH A COMMITTEE AND THEN HELP JOIN THE COMMITTEE AND THEN EVENTUALLY JOIN THE BOARD, MY PARENTS ENCOURAGED ME TO DO IT.
AND HERE I AM MANY YEARS LATER, BEEN A MEMBER OF THE BOARD SINCE 2006, AND WE JUST HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL FUNDRAISER.
UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO GOOD THINGS FOR PEOPLE IN WESTCHESTER.
UH, CHRIS AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN A NUMBER OF THINGS IN THE HARTSDALE NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION, AND WE PUT OUR TIME AND, AND EFFORT AND OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
SO I'M, I'M PROUD TO BE DOING WHAT I'M DOING.
UM, I ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO'S NOT DOING SOMETHING, EVEN IN A TINY WAY FOR A CHARITABLE GROUP OR, OR A NOT-FOR-PROFIT, TO FIND A WAY, FIND A WAY TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR HEART OR YOUR MONEY, UM, OR YOUR, YOUR CONNECTIONS, WHATEVER, TO HELP THEM OUT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD ONES IN WESTCHESTER, AND IT TAKES ALL OF US TO MAKE THEM SUCCESSFUL.
HI, MY NAME IS JOEL CHAIRMAN ON ON THE BOARD OF THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION.
I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR HONORING PATRICE.
I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD WITH HER FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DO GREAT WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY AND I REALLY WANNA THANK THE TOWN OF GREENBURG BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY THAT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION CAN SUCCEED IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ACTUAL COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK IN AND THE MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM HOUSING, OUR NEW CLINIC THAT WE'RE OPENING IN WHITE PLAINS.
ALL OF THESE THINGS HELP OUR COMMUNITY AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE HONOR FOR US AND FOR PATRICE.
AND IF I MAY, UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I AM VERY PROUD TO KNOW YOU.
UM, PATRICE HAS SHOWN ME THAT, UM, SHE'S VERY, HAVING WORKED WITH HER ON THE WRONG WAY, DRIVING TASK FORCE AND HER, HER OBSERVATIONS AND HER ASTUTE AND KEEN, UM, AWARENESS OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IS JUST REALLY, UH, MERITORIOUS AND I, AND I WANT
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TO RECOGNIZE THAT.AND I'M SURE THAT SHE BRINGS A WEALTH OF, UM, KNOWLEDGE AND, AND GOODWILL TO M H A, WHICH DOES WONDERFUL THINGS.
UH, I SEE WE HAVE COUNTY LEGISLATOR DREW WILLIAMS HERE.
UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING,
UH, THANK YOU SUPERVISOR PAUL FINER AND HELLO TO HONORABLE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS.
UH, YES, WE DID HAVE A POST FLOOD TOUR, UH, FOLLOW UP MEETING TODAY.
AND, UH, I HAVE MY MARCHING ORDERS AND WE'LL BE, UH, MEETING WITH THE COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND CIRCLING BACK FOR ANOTHER FOLLOW UP MEETING.
BUT, UH, DEFINITELY DEDICATED TO, UM, UNMITIGATED FLOODING.
AS WE KNOW, GLOBAL WARMING IS A DEFINITELY A THING, WHETHER EVERYONE WANTS TO ADMIT IT OR NOT.
AND, UM, UH, WE, I KNOW WE ALL ARE CONCERNED FOR, UH, RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WHO ARE SUFFERING THROUGH FLOODING.
AND AS, UH, STORMS AND HURRICANES, UH, GET PROGRESSIVELY WORSE, WE NEED TO DO OUR BEST TOWARDS THAT.
UM, SUPER CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND ALL YOUR, UH, BODY OF WORK, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY.
AS CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF LEGISLATIVE HEALTH COMMITTEE, I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF LEGISLATORS AND FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND, UM, AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO, UH, OF COURSE LEANS TOWARDS EVERYONE UNDERSTANDING THAT MENTAL HEALTH IS GENERAL HEALTH.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS.
UM, PLEASE KNOW, UH, MY OFFICE IS ALWAYS OPEN AND ALWAYS HAVE OPEN EARS, SO PLEASE, UH, REACH OUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO OR ADVOCATE FOR OR ASSIST WITH.
YOU KNOW, UM, AFTER YESTERDAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FLOODING.
AND SOMETIMES AFTER A MAJOR STORM, IT'S EASY TO FORGET THAT PEOP, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY PAYS ATTENTION FOR LIKE A DAY OR A FEW DAYS, AND THEN PEOPLE SORT OF FORGET.
BUT YESTERDAY I WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD A MEETING WITH SOMEBODY, UH, IN THE AFTERNOON HERE AND, UM, IT WAS REALLY A HEARTBREAKING STORY.
UM, SHE LIVES ON WARREN AVENUE, UH, IN THE FAIRVIEW SECTION OF TOWN.
UM, HER, UM, HOME WAS TOTALLY DESTROYED, UH, LAST YEAR.
UM, AND SHE'S SINCE THEN BEEN LIVING IN A HOTEL AND AN APARTMENT, AND NOW SHE WANTS TO REBUILD, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HOUSE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, SHE'S BEEN PAYING THE HOTEL BILLS, UH, THE SECOND DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BILLS AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING THE TAX TAXES FOR HER, UM, FOR HER CURRENT PROPERTY, WHICH SHE HASN'T STAYED IN.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BE, UM, ASKING, UH, THE NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE, UH, TO, UM, PASS A, SOMETIMES THEY PASS LIKE A ONE PERSON BILL, UM, UH, THAT ONLY APPLIES TO ONE PERSON, UM, THAT, UM, THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO REDUCE, UM, SOME OF THE PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE SHE'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, AS CLOSE TO BEING HOMELESS AS YOU KNOW, AS POSSIBLE.
AND IT IS JUST REALLY VERY, VERY SAD BECAUSE YOU THINK THAT AFTER A STORM, YOU KNOW, SHE WOULD BE BACK ON HER FEET BACK IN HER HOUSE.
AND SHE, AS WELL AS OTHER PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, WERE REALLY, YOU KNOW, DEVASTATED.
SO, UM, I JUST REALLY FEEL SORRY FOR HER.
AND IT WAS, IT REALLY HAD A VERY, VERY BIG IMPACT.
UH, YOU KNOW, I MET WITH HER, HER HUSBAND, UH, SHE HAS A FOUR MONTH, UH, BABY, A LITTLE BABY.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE TRIED GETTING THE BABY TO CRY, UH, SO I FEEL SORRY FOR, FOR THEM AND BE, BE MORE RECEPTIVE.
BUT, UM, BABY WAS ACTUALLY SMILING MOST OF THE TIME WHEN I WAS MM-HMM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, REALLY THIS IS THE TYPE OF PERSON, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, MENTION, MENTION THAT.
AND I WANT TO THANK, UH, LEGISLATIVE WILLIAMS FOR, UM, UH, BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR, UM, FLOOD RELIEF IN THE TOWN.
SO NEXT WE HAVE, UM, UM, A COUPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN UP,
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DO THAT, UH, TOWN CLERK COMMENTS.I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SHARE WITH OUR PUBLIC THAT OVER THE PAST WEEK, UH, NINE DAYS ACTUALLY OF EARLY VOTING, UM, WE HAD AN EXTRAORDINARY TURNOUT
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AND EVERY DAY OF PUBLIC HEARING HERE AT TOWN HALL AND IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, UM, THERE WERE JUST LINES OF PEOPLE EVERY DAY COMING IN TO VOTE.AND I THINK THAT THAT SPEAKS TO THE CONSCIOUSNESS RAISING OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, OF THE IMPORTANCE OF COMING OUT AND VOTING AND LETTING YOUR, YOUR VOICE, YOUR VOTE, BE YOUR VOICE.
UM, THIS PAST, UM, MIDTERM ELECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, UH, WAS IN UNPRECEDENTED IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE BEING, UM, CHALLENGED AS WELL AS THE TURNOUT.
AND SO TO OUR TOWN OF GREENBERG, THE MESSAGE IS THIS, EVERY ELECTION IS IMPORTANT.
PRIMARIES, MIDTERMS, GENERAL ELECTIONS, THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT, AND YOUR VOTE MAKES A MAJOR DIFFERENCE.
[ To consider an Amended Site Plan and related applications by Midway Shopping Center for property located at 913-999 Central Park Avenue South (P.O. Scarsdale, NY) https://greenburghny.com/603/_-Active-Applications---Town-Board]
UM, GREAT.NEXT, UH, OPEN HEARING TO CONSIDER AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND RELATED APPLICATIONS BY MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER FOR PROPERTY.
LOCATED AT 9 13 9 9 9 CENTRAL PARK AVENUE, SOUTH PO BOX.
GARZA, I'D LIKE TO MOVE REOPEN HEARING SECOND.
UH, GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR, FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD.
MY NAME IS WILLIAM NALL, I'M A MEMBER OF THE FIRM OF CUTTING AND FADER, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF, OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, AND WITH ME TONIGHT IS, UH, MARK PETRO FROM JM J M C, TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.
WE MADE A LONG PRESENTATION LAST TIME, UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK THROUGH IT, BUT I WANTED TO THANK THE TOWN FOR TAKING ADDITIONAL DRONE FOOTAGE, UM, OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT DAYS AND DIFFERENT HOURS OF THE PARKING FIELDS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DATA FOR ANALYSIS, UH, OF THE ACTUAL ACCUMULATION OF, OF PARK WELL UTILIZATION OF PARKING SPACES, AND, UH, AND PROVIDE OTHER INFORMATION.
I'D LIKE TO ASK MARK PETRO TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF WHAT, UM, WAS, UH, WAS DETERMINED AND, AND FOUND IN CONNECTION WITH THOSE, UH, THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS, UH, AND TO, UM, REVIEW THE, THE PRIOR FINDINGS.
UH, MR. SUPERVISOR, I'M SORRY'S, UH, THE TOWN BOARD, ROB, G M C.
UM, I'D LIKE TO TAKE, UH, YOU THROUGH FIVE SLIDES, UM, WHICH KIND OF ADDRESSED SOME OF THE, UH, ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST HEARING.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE, UM, ROB, DID WE HAVE THESE LOCALLY BECAUSE HE'S DISPLAYING ON ZOOM? I HAVE THEM ON MY COMPUTER.
ALRIGHT, SO I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU PLUG IN GARRETT YEAH, I'M SORRY.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE, UM, ROBELLO WHO'S REMOTE GO THROUGH THE SAME INFORMATION THAT I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY AND SET THIS UP.
UM, THE OLD FASHIONED YES, IF, IF GEORGE TI IS AVAILABLE AND HE CAN ASSIST WITH THAT, UM, THAT'S HOW WE USED TO OPERATE.
I THINK THAT'S STILL AVAILABLE.
LET'S SCHOOL GEORGE IS DRAW MOMENT.
SO I'LL STOP SHARING HERE THEN.
WELL, YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
HEY, HOW ARE YOU? OKAY, THANK YOU.
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OKAY, GOOD.I THINK WE HAVE, UM, SUCCESS WITH GETTING THESE, THE VISUALS UP ON THE SCREEN AND UM, IF WE CAN GET RABBI YELLOW REMOTELY FROM J M C TO WALK US THROUGH IT, UH, WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL HERE, BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON ZOOM YEAH.
IS WHEN YOU CHANGE THAT, IF HE CHANGES IT, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY HE'S RUNNING IT THERE AS WELL, SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME SLOT.
SO THE, HE THAT CHANGES IT IS WHO ROB IS.
IS IT GAR? ARE YOU THE ONE THAT'S CONTROLLING THE ZOOM? WHAT I'LL RECOMMEND IS THAT ROB I, UH, RELAYS WHEN HE WANTS THE NEXT, UH, SLIDE IN ADVANCE.
SO, SO HE'S ON SLIDE ONE RIGHT NOW.
SO ROB, JUST INDICATE WHEN YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND THEN WE CAN KEEP IT ALIGNED.
SO AGAIN, ELLO WITH J M C, WE HAVE FIVE, UH, SLIDES.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE, UM, THE BOARD THROUGH BASED ON SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS AND, UH, ALSO ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN DONE BY THE TOWN SINCE OUR LAST APPEARANCE BEFORE THE BOARD.
UH, THE FIRST SLIDE, UM, IS A SUMMARY OF THE EXISTING NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES AT THE CENTER CURRENTLY AND THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT WILL EXIST AFTER THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ARE CONSTRUCTED.
THERE WERE DIFFERENT NUMBERS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, CLARIFY FOR THE BOARD SO EVERYONE WAS ON THE SAME PAGE.
THE EXISTING, UH, SHOPPING CENTER INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 1,157 PARKING SPACES.
ONCE THE, IF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ARE CONSTRUCTED, UM, THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF 1,111 SPACES.
SO THAT'S 46 FEWER SPACES WHICH THAN WOULD CURRENTLY EXIST AT THE PROPERTY.
UH, THOSE 46 SPACES ARE DUE TO 31 SPACES BEING, UM, UH, REDUCED, UH, DUE TO THE SITE DRIVEWAY AND PARK A PARKING LOT AND CIRCULATION IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS BRINGING THE EXISTING PARKING SPACES THAT ARE NOT CONVENTIONAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE, UH, INTO COMPLIANCE.
SO 31 OF THE 46 SPACES ARE FROM THOSE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THEN THERE ARE THREE FEWER PARKING SPACES ASSOCIATED WITH THE BATTERY STORAGE, UM, APPLICATION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY, IS THE PUBLIC GONNA BE ANY OF THIS? SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE COORDINATED THAT APPLICATION AND THAT BATTERY STORAGE.
ROB, COULD YOU WAIT, COULD YOU WAIT ONE SECOND, GARRETT.
UM, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE CENTER SCREEN IMAGE.
WE HAVE THE TWO SIDE SCREEN IMAGES.
GEORGE, COULD YOU ON THE, UH, PLEASE.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING US AWARE.
AND ROB, COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER, PLEASE? SURE.
AM I READY TO GO? IS THE CENTER DON'T ON YET? WE DON'T, WE DON'T YET HAVE THE SECOND SCREEN, THE CENTER SCREEN.
SORRY, GEORGE, YOU NEED TO TURN ON THE PROJECTOR OVERHEAD.
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GEORGE, YOU HAVE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN PAID FUND BUDGET, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. WELL, WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND WE'LL FIX IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.THANK YOU, ARIAN WORKING ON IT.
WHY DON'T WE NOT INTERRUPT BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE THE MEETING AS ORDERLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PROCEEDING GOING ON, BUT DEAD AIR RIGHT NOW, SO WHY NOT? RIGHT? BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE, OH, THIS IS NO LONGER AMERICA.
EVEN WITH THE ELECTIONS, THERE ARE PROCEDURES.
YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T JUST YELL OUT.
WELL, YOU CAN OF COURSE, BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.
IS THAT A CONTROL? CAN YOU FRONT GET YOU PLEASE? THERE WE GO.
UM, THERE IS AN IMAGE ON THE SCREEN.
IF YOU COULD SPEAK UP, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
UH, SO THE, THE, THE FIRST SLIDE, UH, SHOWS ISN'T AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE, UH, WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES EPICENTER IN EXISTING AND PROPOSED CONDITIONS.
SO THERE ARE 1,157 PARKING SPACES CURRENTLY AT MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER.
AND WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WOULD REDUCE BY 46 PARKING SPACES TO 1,111, UH, 31 OF THE 46 SPACES WILL BE LOST AS A RESULT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE DRIVEWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND THE PARKING LOT, SAFETY AND CIRCULATION IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS TO BRING SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY NON-COMPLIANT DIMENSIONALLY INTO COMPLIANCE.
THERE ARE ALSO THREE FEWER PARKING SPACES, UH, AS PART OF THE 46 SPACES, UH, RESULTING FROM THE PROPOSED BATTERY STORAGE UNIT, WHICH IS, UH, PROPOSED AND CURRENTLY BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD IN THE WESTERN PARKING LOT, UH, AT THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO 12 FEWER PARKING SPACES RESULTING FROM, UH, CAR CORRALS IN THE SHOPRITE PARKING AREA, AS WELL AS A SHOPRITE CUSTOMER PICKUP.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE CLARIFY THOSE NUMBERS.
IF WE GET DOWN TO SLIDE NUMBER TWO, PLEASE, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION IN TERMS OF THAT? JUST A CLARIFICATION.
UM, ARE, ARE ALL THE PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE BASICALLY GONNA BE REDUCED IN THE AREA NEAR THE NEXT SLIDE, MR. MR. SUPERVISOR? THE NEXT SLIDE GOES INTO WHERE THOSE ARE LOST AND ADDRESSES EXACTLY THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE MOVED, WE, WE'VE MOVED TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
ROB, IF YOU COULD SPEAK, AND I ALSO ON SLIDE TWO, THANK YOU, UH, ON THE ZOOM.
SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS THREE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT AREAS AND THESE ARE THREE OF THE AREAS THAT WERE ANALYZED IN JCS PARKING UTILIZATION STUDY, UH, AREA B IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE, UH, UH, ADJACENT TO R OF THE ROAD.
YOU WANT TO USE THAT C POINT, WHICH IS IN THE VICINITY OF THE EXISTING, UH, BUILDING WHERE THE DRESS BARN WAS.
AND YOU'RE PROPOSING THE TWO RESTAURANTS AND AREA D, WHICH IS JUST SOUTH OF AREA C AND, UH, IS THE,
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UH, NORTHERN MODES PARKING FIELD OF THE MAIN BUILDING.UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS SLIDE, IT'S TWOFOLD.
ONE, TO EXPLAIN EXACTLY THE SUPERVISOR'S, UH, QUESTION AS TO WHERE PARKING SPACES ARE BEING REDUCED IN THESE THREE AREAS.
UH, AND THEN IT ALSO RELATES TO THE PARKING UTILIZATION STUDY AND THE DRONE PHOTOGRAPHY THAT WAS UNDERTAKEN BY THE TOWN, UH, IN THE LAST WEEK TO LOOK AT THE PARKING UTILIZATION, UH, IN THESE AREAS, UH, SO THAT WE COULD COMPARE IT TO THE, UH, ANALYSIS THAT WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, BEFORE BOARD THE LAST PUBLIC CARE.
SO AREA B IN BLUE, UH, NORTHWEST CORNER ARLEY ROAD, THE UPPER LOT WHICH LEADS UP TO PARKING ON TOP OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THERE ARE 137 PARKING SPACES THERE IN EXISTING CONDITIONS.
AND WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW CIRCULATION AND PEDESTRIAN, UH, CROSSWALKS, THERE WILL BE 122 SPACES IN AREA B.
NOW THAT ASSUMES THAT ROB, THAT ASSUMES ALSO THE PESS UNIT IS APPROVED AND PUT IN PLACE, WHICH IT ACCOUNTS FOR THREE OF THOSE SPACES.
UH, AREA T IS AN ORANGE, AND THAT'S THE PARKING FIELD IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE FORMER, UH, DRESS BARN SPACE.
UH, THAT PARKING AREA CURRENTLY HAS 171 PARKING SPACES AND IN PROPOSED CONDITIONS WILL HAVE 152.
AND THEN AREA D IS IN GREEN, AND THAT'S THE AREA THE SOUTH OF AREA C.
AND THAT HAS 220 PARKING SPACES IN EXISTING CONDITIONS AND TWO 15 AND PROPOSED.
AND THOSE SPECIFICALLY RELATE TO THE FIVE OF THE SEVEN PARKING, UH, I'M SORRY, FIVE OF THE SEVEN PARK CORRALS THAT ARE, THAT EXIST AT THE SITE, UM, FOR THE SHOP UPRIGHT USE.
AND NOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS TO GO BREAK DOWN OF THE REDUCTION IN PARKING THESE THREE AREAS.
AND LEMME JUST SAY WE'RE THE NEXT SLIDES.
GO THROUGH EACH OF THE AREAS INDIVIDUALLY, COMPARE THE DRONE COUNTS WITH ACCOUNTS THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY ANALYZED IN THE REPORTS THAT YOU'VE SEEN, AND WE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH, UM, THE UTILIZATION OF THE PARKING SPACES.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE GO TO SLIDE NUMBER THREE.
SO THE FOLLOWING THREE SIDES ALL HAVE IDENTICAL FORMAT.
UH, IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER IS THE AREA IDENTIFIED AREA AB OR C UH, THEN JUST BELOW THAT WE REPEAT, UH, THE EXISTING NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IN THAT AREA AND THE PROPOSED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IN THAT AREA.
BELOW THAT, ON THE LEFT IS THE COUNT FROM THE THREE DIFFERENT TIMES END DAYS THAT THE TOWN, UH, UNDERTOOK FLYING A DRONE AT THE SITE, UH, TO PROVIDE A COMPARISON, UH, TO THE STUDIES PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED BY G C AND
AND THEN BELOW THAT, THE COUNT OF THE G F C ANALYSIS ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, UH, ARE THE SIX DIFFERENT DAYS THAT WERE ANALYZED IN OUR REPORT.
AND THE PHOTOGRAPH, UH, IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER IS THE ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPH OR ONE OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WAS USED, UH, THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE TOWN OVER THE LAST WEEK.
THIS PARTICULAR PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN ON TUESDAY AT 2:45 PM SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE THREE DIFFERENT PHOTOGRAPHS OF AREA B, UH, HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN ON THIS SLIDE, UH, WE COUNTED THAT ON TUESDAY THERE WERE 70 PARKING SPACES UTILIZED ON FRIDAY.
IN THE AFTERNOON THERE WERE 57 PARKING SPACES UTILIZED.
AND THEN ON SATURDAY AT 3:00 PM THERE WERE 63 PARKING SPACES UTILIZED.
AND THIS IS, UH, CONSISTENT ACTUALLY, THE THE HIGHEST NUMBER USED WERE SEEN AT OUR ANALYSIS FROM NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, WAS 77 PARKING SPACES.
SO OUR COUNT THAT WE ANALYZED ALL OF OUR OVERFLOW PARKING IS ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS, UH, SHOWN OR WHAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, WHEN THE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE TAKEN THIS PAST WEEK.
NOW IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE ON THE FOUR.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT AREA C AND ALL OF THE SAME INFORMATION IS
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REPEATED, BUT FOR THIS AREA, UH, SO WE, THE TOWN'S PHOTOGRAPHS OF THIS AREA ON TUESDAY SHOWED 86 PARKING SPACES UTILIZED, UH, FRIDAY 62 SPACES UTILIZED WERE OCCUPIED.AND SATURDAY, UH, 71 PARKING SPACES OCCUPIED.
AND THEN WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE ANALYSES THAT WE DID IN OUR STUDY, UH, WE ACTUALLY HAD 92 PARKING SPACES OCCUPIED ON FRIDAY OF DECEMBER, AND ALSO 95 SPACES OCCUPIED IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
UH, BECAUSE WE DID SOME FOLLOW UP TESTS THIS YEAR.
SO, UH, IN THOSE, YOU KNOW, SO OUR ANALYSIS, THE JAMES C ANALYSIS ACTUALLY HAD A HIGHER, UH,
SO, UH, WE ARE HIRED THAN WHAT WAS WITNESSED IN THE LAST WEEK.
WAIT, THE SLIDE HAS CHANGED, SO PLEASE UN ZOOM CHANGE IT TOO.
PHOTOGRAPH, UH, THIS IS, OKAY, GO AHEAD.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE ZOOM WAS THEY ARE.
UM, SO LASTLY, IN THIS AREA, AREA B HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN, UH, WE HAD 107 SPACES SHOWN IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN BY THE TOWN ON TUESDAY AFTERNOON, 112 ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AFTERNOON, TAKEN IN THE LAST WEEK.
AND THE, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE, UH, COUNTS THAT WE TOOK EITHER IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR OR AUGUST OF THIS YEAR WERE, UH, SOME 20 BASIS HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS TAKEN IN THE LAST.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE FOLLOW UP STUDIES, YOU KNOW, CONFIRM THAT THE DATA THAT WE USED, UH, IN OUR ANALYSIS WAS, YOU KNOW, WAS INDICATIVE OF HOW THE CENTER IS BEING, UH, UH, UTILIZED.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE SUMMARIZE THE PHOTOGRAPHS, YOU KNOW, THAT WERE TAKEN RECENTLY TO WHAT WAS DONE IN OUR ANALYSIS.
I HAD JUST ONE QUESTION AT THE LAST, YOU KNOW, MEETING, COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, SOME PEOPLE, UM, ASKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE RESTAURANTS AND YOU SAID YOU CAN'T DISCLOSE, YOU KNOW, THE RESTAURANT'S NAMES.
ISN'T IT HARD FOR A TOWN GOVERNMENT TO GIVE YOU APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE AWAY PARKING SPOTS WHEN WE DON'T KNOW THE RESTAURANTS, IF YOU, THERE'S SOME RESTAURANTS THAT COULD BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY CROWDED.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I SORT OF FEEL THAT YOUR COMP YOUR THE APPLICANT PROBABLY HAS AN IDEA WHO THEY WOULD LIKE TO ATTRACT.
AND THIS IS A REAL, YOUR, THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL SHOPPING CENTERS AROUND.
SO YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE A, A, YOU KNOW, SOME REALLY GREAT, YOU PROBABLY HAVE REALLY GREAT TENANTS IN MIND THAT ARE GONNA, UH, BRING A LOT OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
AND I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY RESIDENTS CAN'T BE ADVISED WHO'S BEING CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE NAMES OF THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE, ARE, ARE BEING CONSIDERED BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOULD HELP US MAKE A, A, A BETTER DECISION.
UM, MR. SUPERVISOR, I'M SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY.
THE ANALYSES ARE DONE ON THE TYPE OF RESTAURANT SO THAT NO MATTER WHAT TENANT WE MAY ULTIMATELY LEASE TO, IF THAT TENANT CHANGES AND THERE'S A DIFFERENT TENANT, THE ANALYSES THAT THE TOWN HAS DONE AND REVIEWED ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT TYPE OF USE RATHER THAN A SPECIFIC TENANT.
WE DON'T HAVE, UH, ANY TENANTS TO TELL YOU ABOUT.
AND, AND, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE ANALYZING THIS BASED ON, UM, THE, THE CUSTOMARY PRACTICE IN ENGINEERING AND PLANNING ANALYSES FOR THE TYPE OF USE THAT THE ZONING PERMITS.
AND WE HOPE THAT THE INFORMATION WE'VE GIVEN AS CONSERVATIVELY ANALYZED AS WE SHOWED WAS DONE WITH THE NUMBERS HERE BEING ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN THE NUMBERS THAT, THAT THE TOWN'S DRONE FOOTAGE SHOWED.
UM, ACCOMMODATES A BROAD RANGE OF THAT TYPE OF RESTAURANT, UH, SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE TENANT, IT WILL, THE, THE NUMBERS WILL APPLY.
AND THE LAST QUESTION I HAD IS YOU INDICATED THAT THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT ONE RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO RESTAURANTS, UH, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, RIGHT? WELL, TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF RESTAURANTS.
ONE'S A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT AND ONE'S A CASUAL FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, RIGHT? AND THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT USES UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
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THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR.NOW, HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERED, INSTEAD OF ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, A LARGE REDUCTION OF PARKING, YOU KNOW, SPOTS TO DO, SAY ONE RESTAURANT INITIALLY, SEE WHAT THE REA YOU SEE THE, UH, THE, UM, WHETHER OR NOT IT CREATES MAJOR PROBLEMS. AND IF IT DOESN'T, THEN IT'LL COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T WORK FOR US, MR. SUPERVISOR, THAT WOULDN'T WORK.
WE'VE HAD A, WE'VE HAD THREE YEARS OF A VA OF A VACANT BUILDING AND, AND WE KNOW WHAT SORT OF USES, AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, UNFORTUNATELY, RETAIL TENANTS ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO SECURE THERE.
THE, THERE ARE STORES CLOSING IN EVERY DOWNTOWN, LET ALONE A SATELLITE BUILDING IN, IN A SHOPPING CENTER.
THE RESTAURANT USES THE FOOD ORIENTED USES, OR THOSE USES THAT WE THINK WE HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY OF SECURING SO THAT THEY WILL OCCUPY THESE BUILDINGS.
AND WE'RE GIVING OURSELVES THE FLEXIBILITY OF HAVING A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT AND A FAST CASUAL RESTAURANT.
YEAH, I'M JUST CONCERNED REALLY BECAUSE I, AS I SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, I GO THERE TO THAT SHOPPING CENTER AT LEAST FIVE TIMES A WEEK.
UM, AND SO THE THING IS, I I, I'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM, THE PARKING PROBLEMS, AND I'VE SEEN THE CARS AND I, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ACCIDENTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF HAZARDOUS, YOU KNOW, DRIVING CONDITIONS AND I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, REDUCING THE PARKING SPOTS, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SEE HOW THAT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, I, I, I WOULD RATHER BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAUTIOUS.
THAT'S JUST ME SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.
WE, WE, WE FOLLOWED THE LEAD OF THE TOWN WHEN AFTER THE INITIAL PRE-SUBMISSION WAS MADE, WE WERE ASKED IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THE CIRCULATION PATTERN WITHIN THE SHOPPING CENTER.
WE DID THAT, NOT JUST WITH REGARD TO VEHICLES, BUT ALSO WITH REGARD TO PEDESTRIANS.
AND WE CAN GO BACK THROUGH THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.
BUT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING WITH REGARD TO THE ACCESS PORTALS, THE DRIVEWAYS ALONG ARDSLEY ROAD AND THE ONE DRIVEWAY WITH SIGNAGE ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
WE THINK WE'RE MAKING MEANINGFUL IMPROVEMENTS, AND THAT THE REDUCTION IN PARKING IS ANALYZED BY J M C, INCLUDING WITH THE ADDITIONAL DATA THAT THE TOWN'S PROVIDED, IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE USES WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND THE, IF APPROVED THIS, IF THE AMENDED SITE PLANS APPROVED, IT WOULD ENABLE US TO IMPROVE CIRCULATION AT THE SITE, BOTH FOR PEDESTRIANS AND FOR VEHICLES.
ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE THE PUBLIC? ANY RESIDENT HAVE COMMENTS? IF YOU COULD PULL OUT YES, WE ACTUALLY DO.
UH, MARY BOWDEN, I'D ONCE AGAIN ASK THAT ALL SPEAKERS TONIGHT.
WE HAVE CLOCKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROOM.
I I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF, I GOT SOME EMAILS FROM, UH, RESIDENTS AND THEY, UM, REQUESTED THAT IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE, UH, HAVE PEOPLE SPEAK, WHERE THEY IDENTIFY, UH, NOT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THEIR ADDRESS, BUT WHAT PART OF THE TOWN THEY LIVE IN, OR IF THEY LIVE OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN.
SO THAT SHOULD BE FOR, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC COMMENTS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND I'D ALSO, SORRY MR. RODIN, BEFORE YOU START, JUST ASK THAT EACH SPEAKER STICK TO THE TOPIC OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AND HAS BEEN PROMINENT IS HOW TO PROTECT PEDESTRIANS AND THEIR SAFETY.
HEARD IT EARLIER TODAY, NICK AND I, NICK, UM, LIEUTENANT REON.
EVERYBODY'S USED TO CALLING HIM SERGEANT REON.
UM, NICK AND I ARE GONNA MEET SOMETIME IN THE NEXT WEEK TO GO OVER THE DESIGN OF CROSSWALKS IN GREENBERG, THE CROSSWALKS THAT HAD THIS PLAN.
'CAUSE I LOOKED AT THE PLAN YESTERDAY ON MY COMPUTER.
'CAUSE IT'S HARD TO SEE UP THERE.
I'VE ASKED BEFORE THAT THE SAFEST CROSSWALK, WHICH IS THE CONTINENTAL BAR CROSSWALK BE USED THROUGHOUT THIS FACILITY.
NOTHING, I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE, WHOOPS.
I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE A LITTLE DEAF.
I'VE ASKED TO HAVE YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY EVERY CROSSWALK ON EVERY PLAN IS NOT THE SAFEST CROSSWALK.
YES, THE CROSSWALKS THEY USE ARE
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LEGAL, BUT NOT THE SAFEST.GREENBERG WANTS THE SAFEST CROSSWALKS.
AND I WILL RAISE THIS ISSUE FOR EVERY SINGLE PLAN THAT COMES BEFORE GREENBERG UNTIL YOU USE THE SAFEST CROSSWALK.
I MADE THE SAME COMMENT AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING, AND I WILL MAKE IT AT EVERY OTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU ARE THE ONES THAT RA YOU ARE THE ONES THAT RAISED THE ISSUE OF SAFETY, WALKING FOR PEDESTRIANS.
NICK AND I ARE GONNA WORK ON THIS TOGETHER.
LIEUTENANT RICKSON COMES FROM A FAMILY WHOSE FATHER, HIS FATHER WAS ALSO A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
SO HE HAS A THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING OF THE RULES OF THE ROAD.
THE OTHER POINT THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT WHERE THEY PUT UP SIGNS THAT SAY HANDICAP PARKING, THEY DON'T PUT 'EM DIRECTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SPACE, BUT PUT 'EM ON A SIDE SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THOSE SPACES CAN PULL FORWARD WITHOUT BACKING OUT THAT ALL PARKING SPACES BE DESIGNED WHERE POSSIBLE SO THAT THE DRIVER CAN PULL FORWARD WITHOUT BACKING UP.
YEAH, THE CARS HAVE REAR MIRROR, UH, CAMERAS IN THE BACK NOW MAKE IT SAFER, BUT IT'S A LOT SAFER TO PULL FORWARD.
AND IF YOU NOTICE AND PEOPLE GO INTO PARKING SPACES, THEY WILL OFTEN LOOK FOR A SPACE WHERE THEY CAN PULL FORWARD TO THE SECOND SPACE AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO BACK OUT.
MY NECK DOESN'T GO AROUND TO LOOK AROUND THE SIDES.
AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING, A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T DO IT EITHER.
THOSE EXITS THAT ARE CURVED, UH, MANY PLACES HAVE STOPPED USING THEM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THE TRAFFIC FROM THE LEFT.
SO WHAT'S POPULAR IN ADVANCED COMMUNITIES IS T EXITS WHERE YOU CAN SEE BOTH DIRECTIONS BY LOOKING LIKE THIS.
I'VE BEEN PART OF THE TEAM THAT DESIGNS THE MANUAL OR UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
I'VE MET WITH THE MARKING COMMITTEES.
I AM INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH THE SECTIONS THEY'RE DEALING WITH.
I'M ONE OF THREE PEOPLE WHO DESIGNED A DOTTED LINE FOR AN AUXILIARY LANE.
WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS LEGAL BUT NOT SAFE.
AND I'M INTERESTED IN SAFETY, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ALL TALKING ABOUT MANY, MANY TIMES.
SO I SUGGEST THAT YOU DO NOT APPROVE THIS TONIGHT UNTIL THE CROSSWALKS ARE REDESIGNED FOR THE SAFEST WAY POSSIBLE.
UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEASING 8,200 SQUARE FEET EXISTING, WHICH IS VACANT.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE A DRONE OVERHEAD LOOKING AT PARKING SPACES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THIS 8,200 SQUARE FEET, YOU ARE NOT SEEING THE EFFECT OF AN OCCUPIED 8,200 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL FOOD SPACE, ESPECIALLY FAST FOOD.
WHOSE DEFINITION OF FAST FOOD IS BEFORE THIS TOWN BOARD? THEIR DEFINITION FOR WHAT THE PUBLIC PERCEIVES TO BE FAST FOOD.
HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE THERE? WELL, WE HAVE AN ANSWER TONIGHT FROM THE APPLICANT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE NUMBER THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD'S REVIEW WAS BASED ON AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT NUMBER.
DO WE NOT EXPECT THE PLANNING BOARD TO PROCEED WITH A CONCLUSION BASED UPON THE FACTS PRESENTED BEFORE IT BY THE APPLICANT?
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OR CAN ANY NUMBER BE THROWN AT THEM THAT WILL RECEIVE A POSITIVE VETTING FROM THE PLANNING BOARD? LET'S FACE IT, THE PLANNING BOARD LET THE PUBLIC DOWN ON THIS MISSION.THIS WAS A FAST TRACK APPLICATION SUBMITTED IN JU IN JUNE WITH A HEARING IN JULY.
AND THEN A CONCLUSION FOLLOWING UP IN EARLY SEPTEMBER WHEN PEOPLE ARE AWAY ON VACATIONS.
WHY IS THERE IS NO NEED TO RUSH THIS APPLICATION, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS APPARENTLY FROM TIME THAT HAS ELAPSED SINCE IT BEGAN BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD, THAT IT'S NOT BEING RUSHED.
DID YOU EVER SCHEDULE THE VISIT YOU WERE SEEKING? YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL WHO VOLUNTARILY CHOSE TO RUN FOR THIS POSITION WERE ELECTED.
THEY ALL HOLD FULL-TIME DAY JOBS.
AND WHEN IT CAME TO RESPECTING THE PAYCHECK THAT THEY EARNED FROM THE TOWN BY DOING WHAT WAS REQUESTED OF THEM TO MEET AND HOW DO A WALKTHROUGH THEMSELVES, THEY CHOSE NOT TO.
THEY ALL WERE TOO BUSY WITH THEIR LIVES AND OTHER JOBS.
YOU'RE CURRENTLY TAKING HOME $52,000 IN IMMEDIATE BENEFITS FROM TAXPAYERS.
I THINK YOU COULD HAVE MET THAT OBLIGATION IN THE LAST MONTH.
WHAT IS THE STATUS? ARE YOU NOW DROPPING THE IDEA BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DRONE LOOKING WHILE THERE IS STILL VACANT SPACE? NOW THIS GENTLEMAN, MR. NOLL SAID AT THE CONCLUSION OF LAST MEETING, AND BY THE WAY, HE GETS TO SPEAK FOR UNLIMITED TIMES, UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME EACH OCCASION, AND THE PUBLIC IS LIMITED TO BURSTS OF FIVE MINUTES.
BUT HE SAID BASICALLY THAT IF SOMEBODY TELLS YOU SOMETHING WRONG, A LOT OF TIMES, LIKE MR. TRUMP, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, IT'S NOT TRUE.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE SAME APPLICATION THAT HE'S FOLLOWING.
BUT I HAVE A PROPOSAL, A COMPROMISE BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD, AND IT'S BASED ON THE UNSPOKEN OF ELEMENT BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD.
AND THAT IS, I'LL GO ALONG WITH THIS IDEA ON ONE CONDITION THAT THEY DROP THE 3,300 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR SEATING, WHICH IS PART OF THIS PACKAGE.
AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE A TENANT, THEY'RE NOT LOSING ANYTHING EITHER.
THEY'LL JUST GET A DIFFERENT TENANT WHO DOESN'T NEED THE OUTDOOR SEATING.
BUT WHAT IS THE EFFECT ON PARKING OF 3,300 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR SEATING? CAN ANY OF YOU TELL ME HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THAT? WE DON'T KNOW EITHER.
BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AND BEFORE YOU, WHAT THE HISTORY OF THIS APPLICANT WAS IN REDUCING PARKING TIME AFTER TIME.
THEY'VE BEEN BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD AT LEAST FOUR OCCASIONS ASKING FOR A REDUCTION.
AND WHEN ELECTRIC PUMPINGS COMES, THEY'LL BE SEEKING ANOTHER REDUCTION IN PARKING SPACES.
AND FINALLY, YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN AND IT TELLS YOU ALL THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
BUT WHEN IN THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT HAS ANYONE EVER PHYSICALLY COUNTED THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES TO SEE WHETHER IT CONFIRMS TO WHAT IS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN? COMPROMISE IS SUGGESTED.
HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS SPEAK ON THIS, BUT WE JUST SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CAMERA CAPTURING EVERYONE AT THE, SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK OUR SONOGRAPHER MOVE OVER JUST A LITTLE BIT.
IS THAT, BY THE WAY, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? WE JUST, NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK.
AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE THE PODIUM OVER, HONEY, JUST MOVE OVER THAT ONE.
AND WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE THE PODIUM OVER A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, UH, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN SHIN SAID THAT HE HAS SOME DIFFICULTY CAPTURING EVERYONE IN, UH, FROM THE ANGLE THAT HE'S FILMING.
AND SO WE'RE JUST MOVING EVERYTHING OVER A LITTLE BIT.
IF, IF ANYBODY WATCHES THE VIDEO, UH, BEFORE THE CLERK GOT UP, YOU'LL FIND THAT SHE'S ON CAMERA.
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I ACTUALLY GOT UP AND MOVED IT AND MOVED THE CAMERA BACK.SO NOW YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK UP HERE.
IF YOU WANTED TO PUT IN THAT YOU WANTED TO SPEAK SO THAT SHE WOULD BE ON CAMERA, BUT APPARENTLY THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS, LETS, LET'S JUST MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA.
THIS IS NOT, WAIT, YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T WANNA HAVE, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S MOVE.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY EVERYONE WANTS TO TALK, INCLUDE? I DON'T WANNA TALK, HAVE A PERSONALITY FEUDS? NO.
DO WE WANT, BASICALLY, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO TALK AT THE MEETING ON THE HEARING? IS THERE A SECOND? I, I, I JUST WANNA SAY, IS THERE A THERE, WE, I DON'T WANNA HAVE ANY, IT'S NOT A PERSONALITY FEUD, IT'S JUST, UM, ARRANGING OUR, OUR LOGISTICS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS INCLUDED.
NOW THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS, UM, HEARING.
SO YOU MAY MOVE FORWARD WITH REGARDS TO THIS HEARING.
I MEAN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE A SITE VISIT AS A, AS A BOARD AT THE SAME TIME.
BECAUSE FOR ME, UM, WHEN I, IT'S NOT ONLY THE PARKING, IT'S UM, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, I SEE CARS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M, IT'S THE EXPERIENCE OF THE BOARD SEEING THE TRAFFIC FLOWING AND NOT FLOWING, UM, APPROPRIATELY.
AND I JUST THINK THAT BEFORE WE CLOSE THE HEARING, WE SHOULD ALL GO AND HAVE A SITE VISIT, WHICH IS WHAT WE, UH, WE HAVE SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE WILLING TO GO ANYTIME AND, YOU KNOW, WE, I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD DO IT.
I MEAN, THIS WAY I COULD POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY COULD, UH, POINT OUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT, THAT THEY HAVE.
AND I THINK IT WILL MAKE, IT WILL BE EASIER FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE A, UH, INTELLIGENT DECISION.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE HAVE A SITE VISIT AND OKAY.
AND WE COULD PICK A DATE THAT MM-HMM.
IT COULD BE BEFORE OUR WORK SESSION, IF YOU WANT A SITE VISIT.
WHAT ABOUT HAVING A SITE VISIT RIGHT BEFORE, UH, NEXT, UH, FRIDAY'S, UH, TUESDAY'S WORK SESSION.
UM, IT'S, IT'S ALL THE SHOPPING CENTER'S ALWAYS CROWDED, SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WE DID IT, UH, NEXT TUESDAY AT FOUR 30, UH, BECAUSE OUR WORK OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OR FOUR O'CLOCK OR JUST PICK A PICK A TIME AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK HERE.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE KEN, SECOND.
UM, WILL YOU TAKE THE ROLL? YES.
ALL IN FAVOR OF ALL IN FAVOR OF A SITE VISIT ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022 AS PROPOSED BY TOWN SUPERVISOR PAUL FINER AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN KEN JONES.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY FIVE O'CLOCK.
FIVE O'CLOCK IS FINE AT, AT 5:00 PM WE HAVE ETHICS TRAINING NEXT WEEK.
THIS IS IMPORTANT THOUGH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SHOW.
WELL, I I, I I FEEL THAT GINA JACKSON WAS THERE AT THE TIME THAT THEY WERE DOING THE DRONE SHOT.
WELL, I WANT EVERYBODY TO EXPERIENCE IT AT THE SAME TIME AND WE COULD, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE WORK SESSIONS.
IT'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE DECISIONS WHERE WE DECIDE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A INTERACTION WHERE I COULD POINT OUT SOMETHING.
GINA COULD POINT OUT SOMETHING.
ANYBODY ON YOU COULD POINT OUT SOMETHING THE PUBLIC COULD POINT OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS.
IF WE ALL SEE IT TOGETHER AND WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT NEXT WEEK, WE COULD DO IT A WEEK LATER.
I JUST DON'T WANT HER, I'M NOT PREPARED TO VOTE UN UNTIL, UNLESS THERE IS, UM, UH, A SITE VISIT, UH, WITH PARTICIPATION OF ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS.
OKAY? SO YOU MAY MAKE SUGGESTION PLEASE A CALL.
THERE IS A CALL ON THE FLOOR FOR A ROLL CALL.
CAN WAIT IF COUNCILWOMAN ELLEN HENDRICKS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE VOTE ON A SITE VISIT BUT NOT A SPECIFIC TIME.
WE CAN DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE EVERYONE THAT'S FINE WANTS TO CHECK THEIR SCHEDULES.
AND I KNEW THE SCHEDULES WASN'T WORKING.
SO WHEN MY SCHEDULE WORKED, THAT'S WHY I WENT, AND THAT'S WHY I NOTED THAT IN THE EMAIL.
SO WE JUST GOTTA, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK.
WE COULD TRY TO, WE COULD, WE'VE ALREADY VOTED FOR A SITE, SO WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A TIME IF THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE IS AGREEING ON.
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THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.I'VE ALREADY, I'VE ALREADY, I'VE ALREADY BEEN TO THE SITE A COUPLE OF TIMES.
I'VE ALREADY BEEN, BEEN TO THE SIDE.
OKAY, SO ELLEN CAN AND PAUL, CAN THE THREE OF YOU GO ON THE 15TH AT, AT 5:00 PM NO.
WE COULD DECIDE AS A BOARD WHEN WE WANNA HAVE THE SITE VISIT, BUT WE NOT CLOSING.
WE ARE NOT CLOSING THE HEARING UNTIL WE DO AFTER THE SITE VISIT.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS IT AND WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
SO THIS, THIS WHAT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A VOTE ON THE FLOOR.
SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS WE SEND THAT NO, I'M, I'M, WE'RE AMENDING THE SITE.
WE'RE AMENDING THE RESOLUTION.
SO THE RESOLUTION SAYS, UH, THERE IS NO RESOLUTION.
THE MOTION IS THAT WE HAVE, UM, A SITE VISIT BEFORE WE CLOSE THE HEARING.
OKAY? WE ADJOURN THE HEARING PEN UNTIL A SITE VISIT IS HELD.
DID WE DO THAT ALREADY? WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
SO RIGHT NOW, PAUL, RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE FLOOR, YOU MOVE TO HAVE A SITE VISIT AND, UH, ON TUESDAY THE 15TH AT 5:00 PM AND KEN, KEN AND KEN SECOND.
NOW WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? FOLLOWING THAT MOTION AND THAT SECOND THERE'S DISCUSSION.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? MM-HMM.
SO SOMEONE MAKES SOMEONE ON THE BOARD NEEDS TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
ARE YOU ADJOURNING THE MEETING NOW? BECAUSE I, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO PRESENT SOMETHING MORE AND I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE GONNA BE ADJOURNING IT.
I WANTED TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE MADE.
I CAN'T DO THAT WITH AN, A MOTION.
SO IF THE MOTION IS TO ADJOURN AND AND YOU'RE ADJOURNING, THEN I'M, I'M DONE.
NO, I BELIEVE THE MOTION IS TO HAVE A SITE VISIT PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S TIED TO ADJOURNING THIS MEETING.
WHO IS MAKING THE MOTION TO HAVE A SITE VISIT PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING PAUL, DO YOU WANNA MAKE THE, I THOUGHT WAS PAUL HERE THE MOTION? NO, NO, NO.
I'M MAKING TO HAVE A SITE VISIT ON TUESDAY.
THE WELL DO, I'M AMENDING MY MOTION AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, COME TO THINK OF IT, I JUST RE RE REMIND, REMEMBERED THAT I GOT CALLED FOR JURY DUTY NEXT WEEK.
UM, SO, UH, I, THE LAST TIME I GOT CALLED, I WANTED TO LEAVE AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND THE JUDGE, UH, THREATENED TO HOLD ME IN CONTEMPT IF I LEFT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT TIME THE COURT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, IF THEY CALL ME, I'M NOT SURE IF I'LL BE OUT.
SO WHY DON'T AMEND THE MOTION? I BELIEVE THAT MOTION WAS THE SAME MOTION THAT WAS MADE AT THE LAST MEETING AND WE COULDN'T COORDINATE OUR SCHEDULES.
WE COULD, WE COULD ALL COORDINATE OUR SCHEDULE.
WHY DIDN'T WE DO IT IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS? WE WERE AN BECAUSE SO, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT A TIME WHEN WE ALL COULD GET TOGETHER.
CAN DO YOU WANNA DO IT ON SATURDAY? WE COULD DO IT ON SATURDAY.
THIS IS WHY WE LOOK SO DYSFUNCTIONAL.
SO PAUL HAS RESCINDED, PAUL IS AMENDING HIS ORIGINAL MOTION.
A DISCUSSION ENSUED AND NOW THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO HAVE A SITE VISIT PRIOR TO THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING.
IS THERE ANYONE GOING TO SECOND THAT? SECOND.
IS THERE AN AYE, DO YOU WANNA ROLL
SO WHY DON'T WE MAKE IT THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY? UM, UM, UH, AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
THAT GIVES US THAT'S YOU SAY BEFORE A FUTURE TOWN? YEAH, BEFORE A FUTURE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
WE CAN MAKE IT THE FOLLOWING WEEK ON THE 22ND.
OR WE CAN MAKE IT EVEN ON MONDAY THE 21ST.
WE USUALLY MEET THE TOWN BOARD THE MORNING IS THE, THAT'S THE TOWN BOARD MEETING IS THE 21ST.
YEAH, WE COULD DO IT MAYBE RIGHT? BEF MAYBE LIKE AT FIVE O'CLOCK OR SOMETHING.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE.
YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY TO BE HONEST, THE WEEKEND BEFORE THANKSGIVING IS REALLY A GOOD WEEKEND TO, UH, TO SEE TRAFFIC BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE DOING SHOPPING AND THAT'S GONNA BE A, A REALLY GOOD PEAK, YOU KNOW, TIME TO REALLY SEE WHAT A BUSY SHOPPING CENTER'S LIKE.
THAT'S WHEN THE COUNTS WERE DONE LAST YEAR.
NO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS WAY.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT DATA.
BUT IF WE WANT TO DO A SITE VISIT, IF WE DID IT LIKE A WEEK FROM UH, SAY SATURDAY THE 19TH IN THE AFTERNOON, THAT WE WOULD GET A REAL, THAT
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TO ME WOULD BE A GREAT TIME IF WE COULD ALL DO IT SATURDAY THE 19TH.SAY BEFORE FUTURE TOWN MEETING.
AND THEN WE, WE NEED A SPECIFIC DATE AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT IN, I'M NOT IN TOWN THAT WE, NO, AT LEAST WE NEED A SPECIFIC DATE FOR THE TOWN BOARD MEETING THE NOTES.
HOW ABOUT HAVE ABOUT THE FRIDAY, THE NEXT TIME THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING IS, IS MONDAY, NOVEMBER 21ST.
HOW ABOUT THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE, SO WE NEED TO FIGURE, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT AND SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THAT, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW, DO WE NEED TO TAKE THIS TIME TO FIGURE OUT THAT DAY? 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE DELAYING THAT'S WHAT, THAT WAS MY POINT.
SO BASED ON WHAT JOE JUST PUT ON THE TAPE, WE CAN'T VOTE ON THAT WAY AND THEN WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT THAT DATE LONG AS WE FIGURE OUT THE DATE BEFORE THE NEXT TIME FOR WHICH SHOULD BE BEFORE MONDAY THE 21ST.
SO CAN THAT BE A MOTION AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD? I BELIEVE THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
SO ARE WE, SO CAN KEN SECOND IT? OKAY.
SO DO YOU WANNA TAKE A VOTE? YEAH, I THOUGHT WE VOTED ALREADY.
SECOND IT SECOND IT, BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO VOTE.
OKAY, SO, SO WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
MADE A MOTION TO HAVE A SITE PLAN PRIOR A SITE VISIT PRIOR TO THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING.
IT NOW IS UH, UH, IS THERE A SPECIFIC DATE THAT NO, THAT'S WHAT WE JUST SAID.
WE DON'T HAVE A DATE, SO WE HAVE TO ABOUT THE TERMIN THAT DATE.
OKAY, SO THE TOWN BEFORE THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING, THE MONDAY, NOVEMBER 21ST, IF THAT'S THE DATE THAT BE NOTED.
AND THAT IS WHEN ALL FIVE BOARD MEMBERS CAN MAKE IT.
I MEAN, ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT BETWEEN US TWO ALL.
SO IT SHOULD BE PROVIDED ALL FIVE BOARD MEMBERS CAN MAKE IT PROVIDED, PROVIDED BY ALL FOR ALL FIVE BOARD MEMBERS CAN MAKE IT.
WHAT WE WHAT WE SORRY, ARE WE GONNA TAKE A LOOK? ARE WE GONNA VOTE NOW? ARE WE GONNA VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WE HAVE TO FIND A TIME WHEN ALL FIVE BOARD MEMBERS CONNECT.
I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THAT TIME? UM, I'M, I'M, I'M SORRY.
YOU, YOU, YOU ARE SAYING NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME.
SO, SO THERE WILL BE A SITE VISIT PRIOR TO THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING.
KEN SECOND THAT AND THEN NOW FRANCIS IS ADDING, PROVIDED ALL FIVE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS CAN ATTEND.
AND SO NOW YOU'RE VOTING AYE, ON THAT PROVISION THAT WAS ADDED BEFORE WE VOTED.
BUT ANYHOW, I JUST WANNA GET IT STRAIGHT.
SO PROVIDED THAT ALL FIVE BOARD MEMBERS CAN ATTEND AND IS THAT AN AYE? WE VOTED, I WE VOTE.
NOW BEFORE WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT MEETING, WE HAVE TO PROPERLY NOTICE IT AND TELL THE PUBLIC WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE OBVIOUSLY.
RIGHT? SO WE CAN'T JUST DECIDE AT EIGHT O'CLOCK ON A FRIDAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AND DO A SITE VISIT.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S PROPERLY NOTICED, CORRECT? RIGHT.
BUT WAIT, NO, SORRY HE'S NOT FINISHED.
AND THIS IS THE DISADVANTAGE OF NOT HAVING A WORK SESSION, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE IT WAS A HOLIDAY, UH, IN ADVANCE OF HAVING THIS BOARD MEETINGS.
'CAUSE THIS COULD HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT YESTERDAY.
BUT I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY SHOW YOU THE SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISONS OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE MADE TO THE SITE.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF YOU GO, WHEN YOU GO AT THIS POINT, WHEN YOU GO TO THE SITE AND YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THAT PARTON IS LAID OUT AND THE DRIVE AISLES ARE LAID OUT, THEY'RE GONNA BE CHANGED.
I'M SORRY, DOES ANYONE HAVE THAT COMPARISON? YES.
ROB, ARE YOU THERE? WE HAVE TO IMPROVISE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CONNECTION WORKING FROM THE STUDIO.
IF THIS IS A SECOND ROUND, IT'S NOT A SECOND ROUND.
WE'RE IT'S NOT A SECOND ROUND.
SO THEY'RE BOTH EQUAL, BOTH, BOTH SCREENS? BOTH SCREENS.
BOTH SCREENS ARE THE SAME? YES.
SO ROB, DO YOU WANNA WALK THROUGH THE CH THE CHANGES HERE? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERN FOR SAFETY AND FOR TRAFFIC CIRCULATION THAT YOU, THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WHEN YOU GO TO THE SITE, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS NOT THE WAY WE'RE PROPOSING TO CONFIGURE IT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE, A GOOD MANY OF THE PARKING SPACES ARE LOST.
THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT, UM, THERE ARE ONLY A FEW PARKING SPACES, SEVEN OR SO PARKING SPACES THAT ARE, THAT ARE LOST FROM THE OUTSIDE DINING, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT MANY PEOPLE SEEK TO HAVE BASED ON COVID EXPERIENCE.
NOW ALL OF YOU WHO ARE SITTING HERE WITH MASKS ON UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE WON'T GO OUT
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TO EAT IF THERE ISN'T AN OUTDOOR AREA TO SIT AND EAT.SO IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO ANY PARTICULAR TENANT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE CUSTOMERS ARE SEEKING AND MANY TENANTS ARE ASKING FOR BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT.
SO ROB, ARE YOU ABLE TO WALK THROUGH THESE FEW SLIDES PLEASE? YES.
SO THERE, THERE ARE FIVE SLIDES HERE ALSO.
UH, THE FIRST SLIDE, UH, SHOWS THE PARKING AREA NEAR THE EXISTING WITH THE FORMER DRESS BARN SPACE WHERE THE TWO RESTAURANTS, UH, WILL BE.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ROTATING THE PARKING SO THAT THE EXISTING STRIPE DIAL IN EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, UH, IS CLOSED.
AND THAT SHAPE THEN RESULTS IN THE OUTDOOR SEATING ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING, UM, WHICH IS THE TRIANGULAR PIECE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING WHERE THE SEATING IS SHOWN.
SO WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS THAT THE TWO-WAY PARKING, UH, OR THE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW PROFILES IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING REMAINS, BUT THE PARKING THAT IS PLANNED SOUTH IN BETWEEN THE BANK AND TOTALLY IS CURRENTLY DIMENSIONALLY NONCOMPLIANT.
THOSE AISLES ARE ONLY 18 OR 19 FEET, WHICH IS SUBSTANDARD FOR, UH, 90 DEGREE PARKING.
AND THAT IS WHY, I'M SORRY, LET, LET ME INTERRUPT.
GEORGE, COULD YOU ACTUALLY DISPLAY THE SCREENSHOTS ON OUR STREAMING ON OUR WEBSITE? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST SHOWING, UH, THE GENTLEMAN AT THE PODIUM.
I'M SEEING IT, THE THE SCREEN IS SHARED.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT.
IT'S JUST THAT WHAT'S GOING OUT TO THE STREAM, IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET ALL OF THIS FROM YOUR FACE.
SO
OKAY, SO THE, THE PARKING THEN BETWEEN CHIPOTLE AND THE BANK BUILDING, THERE WE GO.
UH, WHERE THE ANGLED SPACES ARE PROPOSED ARE DIMENSIONALLY COMPLIANT AND IT ALSO RESULTS IN ONE WAY TRAFFIC FLOW, UH, THROUGH THIS AREA, WHICH IS MORE ORDERLY AND, UH, MORE PREDICTABLE.
THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE PARKING IN THIS AREA, UH, NEAR THE BUILDING.
AND YOU'RE CHANGING IT TO ONE WAY BETWEEN CHIPOTLE AND THE BANK ONE WAY INTO, IN EACH DIRECTION? OR IS IT TWO WAY STILL? YOU'VE GOT DIAGONAL PARKING INSTEAD, RIGHT? THERE'S DIAGONAL PARKING, CORRECT.
SO WE GO FROM TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW IN TWO LANES TO ONE-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW, WHICH IS IMPROVEMENT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.
AND SO DOING, DOES THAT CREATE A LOSS OF SPACES THERE? IS THAT ONE OF BOB, IS THAT A LOSS OF SPACES IN THAT AREA? THAT AREA RESULTED IN, I THINK THERE, THERE WAS A LOSS BECAUSE OF THE, THE NONCONFORMITY AND YES, THAT'S A LOSS OF 19 PARKING SPACES.
SO, SO TO CREATE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT, YOU HAVE, WE'VE LOST SPACES.
IT'S NOT JUST FOR OUTDOOR SEATING FOR SEVEN SPACES CREATING FROM AFTER PROCEEDING BY TAKING THAT ESSENTIALLY CROSS HATCHED, UH, DIAGONAL AREA AND MOVING IT OVER AND BEING ABLE TO STRAIGHTEN OUT THE ALIGNMENT OF THE AISLES, ET CETERA.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME LOSS FROM THAT, BUT THERE IS A RIGHT LOSS, BUT IT'S SAFER FOR DRIVING AND SAFER FOR WALKING.
OKAY, MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UH, NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE CALLED AREA B BEFORE, UH, WHICH IS THE NORTHWEST PARKING LOT CLOSEST TO LEY ROAD.
AND, AND THIS IS THE, UH, AREA NEAR PANERA BREAD AND ALSO THE AREA THAT BRINGS THE PARKING, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT BRINGS YOU UP TO THE ROOFTOP PARKING.
SO SIMILARLY HERE, UH, WE HAVE GONE FROM A TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE WESTERNMOST LOT TO AN ANGLED ONE-WAY FLOW, WHICH MINIMIZES THE NUMBER OF CONFLICTS IN THAT PARKING LOT.
EVERYONE IS GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION,
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UH, AND IT WILL BE APPROPRIATELY ASSIGNED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHERE TO GO WHEN THEY'RE TRAVELING THROUGH THIS PARKING AREA.IN ADDITION TO THE CIRCULATION IMPROVEMENTS FOR VEHICLES, WE'VE ALSO INCORPORATED PEDESTRIAN ROUTES IN THE UPPER OR NORTHWEST PARKING LOT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE EXISTING STAIRS, WHICH BRING YOU DOWN THE SLOPE TO THE PARKING AREA IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO PANERA BREAD.
UH, WE WILL BLOW UP ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
THE PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION, UH, THAT YOU, THAT WE'VE BEEN, THAT WE'VE ADDED.
COULD YOU, UH, SO FOR RIGHT NOW WITH THIS SLIDE, WE'LL JUST TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC FLOW ADJACENT TO PANERA BREAD AND THE ARLEY ROAD DRIVEWAYS.
SO IN EXISTING CONDITIONS, THE TWO DRIVE VIALS IMMEDIATELY WEST OF PANERA BREAD ARE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING, UH, AND IN THE AISLE, UH, JUST WEST OF THE PARKING ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING, MAKING THAT ANGLED PARKING.
AND ONE-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW WITH THIS DOES IS ALLOWS US TO ALIGN THE AISLE BETTER WITH THE DRIVEWAY AT ARLEY ROAD AS WE'RE MODIFYING THAT EXIT DRIVE, UH, WITH THE LEFT AND RIGHT OUT.
IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO PUT FOR, PUT MORE PARKING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO PANERA BREAD.
AND WE'VE ADDED, WE'VE USED THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMPLIANT HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES, UH, THAT ARE IN CLOSER PROXIMITY TO THE EXISTING BUILDING AND MOST NOTABLY, THE AREA RIGHT NEAR THE, THE EXIT OUT TO ARLEY ROAD.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT, THIS AREA HERE, THERE ARE, THERE'S TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW HERE.
SO YOU HAVE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE AISLE, UH, IN THIS LOCATION.
TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW IN THIS LOCATION AND ALSO TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW IN THIS, IN THIS LOCATION AT THE SAME POINT WHERE CARS ARE ENTERING AND EXITING THE CENTER.
SO WE'VE CONVERTED THAT FROM TWO-WAY INTO ONE WAY.
SO NOW YOU CAN GO IN A COUNTERCLOCKWISE FASHION HERE, MINIMIZING THE CONFLICTING MOVEMENTS, UH, WHEN YOU'RE COMING INTO THE SITE AND ALSO EXITING THE SITE.
AND SO THIS ONE WAY FLOW WITH ANGLE PARKING AND MINIMIZING THE NUMBER OR REDUCING NUMBER OF MOVEMENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE DRIVEWAY IS ALSO ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF IMPROVING THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
ROB, COULD YOU FOCUS ON THE LEY ROAD EXIT PLEASE? BECAUSE I THINK THAT ADDRESSES THAT T INTERSECTION.
WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING IT INSTEAD OF HAVING AN ANGLE WITH AN ENTRANCE, ALSO, WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING IT SO THAT THERE'S TWO LANES OF PEOPLE LINED UP SQUARELY AT THAT INTERSECTION TO EXIT.
SO WHAT, WHAT MR. NOEL WAS JUST REFERRING TO, UH, IS THIS EXITING AREA HERE.
SO WE ARE ALIGNING THIS TO BE PERPENDICULAR WITH ARLEY ROAD FOR BOTH CARS MAKING LEFTS OUT AND RIGHTS OUT ONTO RZ ROAD AND MODIFYING THE APPROACH ALIGNMENT BY PULLING IT AWAY FROM THE BUILDING TO ALLOW IT TO BE PERPENDICULAR, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THIS PARKING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PANERA BREAD SPACE.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THE ALIGNMENT CHANGE THAT WE'RE MAKING HERE WITH THE EXITING LANES, WE'RE ALSO CONVERTING THE PARKING, UH, ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING BETWEEN ARLEY ROAD AND THE EXISTING BUILDING TO BE ONE WAY FLOW WITH ANGLED PARKING TO ALSO MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF MOVEMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THIS DRIVEWAY.
SO THIS ENTRANCE DRIVEWAY DOES REMAIN, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE FOR THE ENTRY IN FROM ARLEY ROAD IS WE'VE PROVIDED WITHIN THE EXISTING PAVED AREA A RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE SEPARATE FROM THE THROUGH LANE ON ARLEY ROAD, WHICH ALLOWS, WHICH NOW DOES NOT FEED THIS DRIVEWAY HERE, IT NOW HAS A SEPARATE ENTRANCE INTO THE ONE-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW WITH A YIELD TO THE MOVEMENT COMING IN FOR THE MAIN MOVEMENT COMING IN FOR MARLEY ROAD.
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COMING IN SO PEOPLE CAN WAIT AND PROCESS AS CARS ARE ENTERING AND THEN BE MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION AS ALL THE OTHER TRAFFIC IN THE AREA WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN, EITHER FROM EAST OR WEST.UM, MARLEY ROAD, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS AREA? NO.
UH, MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE NUMBER THREE.
UH, THIS IS A BLOW UP OF THE AREA BETWEEN THE MAIN BUILDING AND THE PANERA BREAD SPACE IN EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THERE'S ONE PAINTED CROSSWALK, WHICH WILL REMAIN, UH, IT'LL BE CONSTRUCTED IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT, BUT IT WILL REMAIN.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING A CROSSWALK ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY HERE TO A SIDEWALK, WHICH WAS WITHIN A PLANTING AREA, A PLANTED AREA TO ANOTHER CROSSWALK.
AND THEN YOU CAN CROSS HERE TO THE OUTDOOR SEATING AREA.
THIS CONNECTION ALSO ALLOWS FOR A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO THE UPPER PARKING LOT THAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE.
SO WE'RE PROVIDING, UH, ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS TO GET FROM THE UPPER PARKING LOT FROM THE MAIN BUILDING TO THE PANERA BREAD SPACE BY ADDING IN THESE ADDITIONAL CROSSWALKS AND SIDEWALKS.
AND THERE'S SOME LOSS OF PARKING SPACES FROM THAT RECONFIGURATION TOO? THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? SURE.
UH, SO THIS, I, I WILL DWELL ON THIS.
THIS IS JUST A BLOW UP OF THE ARLEY ROAD DRIVEWAYS, WHICH I MENTIONED BEFORE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE, UH, REDUCED NUMBER OF MOVEMENTS AND CONFLICTS WHERE CARS ENTER AND EXIT THE SITE, UH, AND AS CARS TRAVERSE THROUGH THE PARKING LOT.
AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE IS THE PROPOSED CROSSWALK ACROSS ARLEY ROAD, UH, WHICH WILL THEN CONNECT TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ARLEY ROAD NEAR THE GREENVILLE SHOPPING CENTER DRIVEWAY AND WESTMINSTER ROAD.
SO THERE'LL BE A SIDEWALK CONNECTION FROM THE SITE TO A PROTECTED CROSSWALK, UH, ACROSS ARLEY ROAD, AND WHICH WILL THEN BRING YOU TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ARLEY ROAD.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE PREPARED THESE, UH, GRAPHICS TO KIND OF PROVIDE A VIRTUAL SITE WALK, IF YOU WILL.
SO YOU COULD REALLY SEE SIDE BY SIDE THE COMPARISON AND EXISTING AND PROPOSED CONDITIONS, UH, AS YOU KNOW.
AND WE HAPPY ON WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO JOIN YOU WHEN YOU HAVE TIME IDENTIFIED SO THAT WE COULD BRING BOARDS LIKE THIS AND PERHAPS BE ABOVE THE STORES LOOKING DOWN AT THE SITE AND, AND WALK YOU THROUGH IT.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN CIRCULATION BOTH FOR PEDESTRIANS AND VEHICLES AND THEREFORE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING, WHAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT, ISN'T EXACTLY THE WAY IT'LL BE.
UH, I JUST WANNA KNOW, HAS EDGE ONE COMMUNITY COUNCIL TAKEN A POSITION ON THIS OR DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE SEEING THIS, SO WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE.
WOULD YOU, UH, ASK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOUR RESIDENTS TO REVIEW, YOU KNOW, THESE SAFETY RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAYBE THEY COULD ALSO JOIN US AT, AT THE SITE VISIT? YEAH, AND I EMAILED YOU EARLIER THIS WEEK ABOUT THE SITE VISIT WHEN, WHEN THE DATE, THE SCHEDULE WERE
THE, THESE ARE NOT, THESE ARE THE SAME PLANS WE'VE HAD SINCE THE PLANNING BOARD MADE THE RECOMMENDATION.
WE'VE NOT MADE CHANGES AND THEY HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COPIES IF THE TOWN WANTS THEM FOR DISTRIBUTION OTHERWISE, BUT THAT WHAT WE'VE WALKED YOU THROUGH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE HAD FOR THE PAST TWO MONTHS.
AND I BELIEVE YOU DISPLAYED THESE BEFORE.
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. CANNING WHO IS OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH, WITH WHAT WAS JUST SAID THAT THESE WILL BE IMPROVEMENTS TO SAFETY? NOT, UM, CAUSE THE SITUATION THAT'S THERE TO BE WORSE.
IS THERE ANY PART OF WHAT HE JUST MENTIONED WHICH WILL MAKE THE SAFETY OF THE PARKING LOT WORSE? NO.
UM, WE HAVE WORKED ASSIDUOUSLY WITH BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THE PLANNING BOARD AND, AND BEING OVER, I, I KNOW THIS IS NEW TO THE TOWN BOARD, BUT WE'VE WORKED WITH THE PLANNING BOARD FOR MANY MONTHS TO GET TO HERE AND WE'VE REVIEWED THESE.
THE ANSWER IS NO, THEY WILL MAKE THE OPERATION SAFER.
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IS BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF A SITE VISIT.IF WE GO OUT THERE AND WE SEE THAT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS IS REALLY HAZARDOUS AND UNSAFE, THAT'S NOT REASON TO VOTE AGAINST THE PROJECT, WHICH WILL GIVE US THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING LOT THAT OUR OWN TRAFFIC CONSULTANT SAYS, WE'LL MAKE IT SAFER IN COMPLIANCE AND IN COMPLIANT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I STRUGGLE WITH THE NEED AND URGENCY OF HAVING A SITE VISIT.
'CAUSE YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE SITE VISIT WOULD SAY, HEY, THIS IS UNSAFE.
WE CAN'T APPROVE THIS, BUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE IS TO ADDRESS WHATEVER WE SEE HOW BAD IT IS SO THAT IT WILL NOT CONTINUE, BUT WE WILL BE EXAMINING EXISTING CONDITION WITHOUT EXAMINING WHAT IT WOULD BE ONCE IT'S BUILT.
YOU KNOW, THE, SOMETIME I WANT TO, UH, ASK OUR CONSULTANT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WITH THE STATE, YOU KNOW, D O T SOMETIMES, UM, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT RATINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE COULD BE A SAFE UNSAFE CONDITION AND IT COULD BE AN F AND UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND IT COULD BE A D MINUS OR SOMETHING AND THEY'LL SAY THEY'RE IMPROVING.
UM, I'M WONDERING IF, UM, UH, YOU COULD, IF, UH, YOU'VE ACTUALLY, UM, AS A CONSULTANT, UH, COULD GIVE US A, A THOUGHT ON THE CURRENT LIKE LEVEL OF SAFETY.
IS THIS LIKE A EXTREMELY SAFE, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKING AREA AND WITH IMPROVEMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH BETTER WILL IT BE IMPROVED? YOU KNOW, IF CERTAINLY MR. SUPERVISOR, UM, THERE, THERE IS NO FORMAL SAFETY RATING.
THERE IS A TRAFFIC CAPACITY RATING.
THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THIS IS NOT AN EXTREMELY SAFE PARKING LOT, WHICH IS WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS IN IT AND A LOT OF THE IMPROVEMENT MEASURES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ARE SPECIFICALLY, UH, TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT ARE OF CONCERN.
WILL IT SOLVE THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES AFTER, IF WE APPROVE THIS WITH THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS? WOULD YOU FEEL CONFIDENT SAYING NOW THIS IS A SAFE, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKING AREA, UH, MR. SUPERVISOR, NOTHING IS SAFE.
IT WILL BE A SAFER PARKING AREA.
THAT'S WHY I QUESTIONED THE NEED FOR THE SITE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, EVERYBODY HAS TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMFORT LEVEL THAT THEY, THEY WANT TO HAVE BEFORE WE VOTE.
YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE WITH FRANCIS AND I THINK I SAID SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT LAST MEETING YOU DID.
UM, BUT I, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T VISUALIZE WELL AND MAYBE BEING THERE MIGHT BE EASIER, SO NO, BUT THE ONLY THING THEY'RE GONNA SAY IS AN UNSAFE CONDITION.
BUT YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M WILLING TO, UH, INDULGE IF, IF IT WE'LL GIVE A COMFORT LEVEL, WHICH I WAS WILLING TO DO THE LAST MEETING AND THAT'S WHY WE SAID BETWEEN NOW AND THIS MEETING, WE WOULD HAVE A SITE AGREED, AGREED, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
AND THEN WE HEAR THAT IT'D BE BETTER IF IT WAS AT, YOU KNOW, AFTER CHRISTMAS, AFTER THANKSGIVING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BLACK FRIDAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY AND THEN MAYBE BEFORE CHRISTMAS WOULD BE A GOOD DAY TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SHOW.
YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WE WANNA MAKE THE, THE THE CENTER SAFE.
I DON'T KNOW, WILL THEY STILL BE ABLE TO DO CONSTRUCTION DURING THE WINTER? THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO CONSTRUCTION I DON'T THINK DURING THE WINTER, BUT THEY WILL IN THE SPRING AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO LINE TO BE ABLE TO LINE UP THE WORK AND, AND, UH, SO TIMING AFTER, IF
WHAT I, WHAT I'M GONNA TELL YOU IS THAT AFTER THIS BOARD ACTS ON AN ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION AND THEN SITE PLAN, ASSUMING IT DOES CONDITION ON PLANNING BOARD, PLANNING BOARD THEN NEEDS TO ACT.
SO AFTER YOU ACT, WE'RE STILL A MONTH AWAY FROM THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVING IT.
SO, AND, AND THEN WE NEED, WE NEED TO, TO GO THROUGH, UM, BIDDING IT OUT AND GETTING IT READY AND WE'LL BE AT SPRING BEFORE YOU KNOW, IT, JUST AS YOU WERE SAYING, WE'LL BE AT CHRISTMAS BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
SO TIME MATTERS, TIME MATTERS CONSIDERABLY.
IT MATTERS BECAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SECURE THE TENANTS UNTIL WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WE CAN DELIVER.
AND NO ONE'S GOING TO GONNA AGREE TO MOVE INTO SOMETHING THAT'S SPECULATIVE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'VE GOT IT OR NOT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU J JUST GIVE US, UM, A TIMELINE.
I WOULD IMAGINE ONCE THE APPROVALS ARE MADE, THEN YOU HAVE TO DO, THESE ARE JUST,
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UH, CONCEPT DRAWINGS.SO YOU HAVE TO DO ACTUAL DRAWINGS AND THEN GO OUT TO BID THEN.
SO IF YOU CAN GIVE US THAT, THAT TIMELINE WE NEED, WE, WE NEED AT LEAST FOUR MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE POINT OF STARTING THE WORK.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE APRIL IS THE FOURTH MONTH AS NEXT YEAR SHOULD BE, WAS LAST YEAR.
UM, SO WE, WE ARE GONNA BE AT A POINT WHERE IF, IF YOU ACT, YOU KNOW, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE WORK DONE AND STARTED IN.
BUT, UM, FAIR ENOUGH, TIME IS MONEY AND, AND, AND TIME IS RISK UNDERSTOOD.
NOBODY KNOWS HOW, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN NEXT.
AND YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE TOWN TO TRY AND ADDRESS ISSUES OF CONCERN.
AND WE HOPE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IS SOMETHING THAT'S PRODUCTIVE THAT ENABLES US TO TO, TO SECURE A DECISION IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO ALLOW PUBLIC A SECOND ROUND SINCE YOU'VE GIVEN THE APPLICANT.
NO, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
WE'RE HAVING A, WE'RE HOLDING IT UP.
MR. S, CAN WE PLEASE STOP THE OUTBURST? THEY'RE DECIDING WHAT TO DO WITH THE HEARING.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND A SECOND WE'RE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
AFTER WE HAVE THE SITE VISIT, WE'RE GONNA, THIS IS NOT, THE HEARING'S NOT BEING, UH, DISCONTINUED.
YOU'RE GONNA ADJOURN IT FOR ALL PURPOSES, RIGHT? WE'RE ADJOURNING IT TO THE, THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING TO 20.
CAN WE MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN UNTIL THE 21ST, THE HEARING SECOND FOR ALL PURPOSES.
I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T HEAR A SECOND ON THAT.
I SECOND SECOND BEFORE I MOVE TO ADJOURN HEARING TO NOVEMBER 20, I SECONDED IT, JUDITH.
TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW CREATING A CHAPTER 4 52 IN THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBERG ENTITLED PROHIBITION OF THAT'S APPLIED SALES DISPLAY AND ADVERTISING OF WEAPONS.
FINER TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD.
GARRETT QUE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS RELATED TO THE POTENTIAL CREATION OF A NEW CHAPTER TO THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED PROHIBITION OF SPECIFIED SALES DISPLAY AND ADVERTISING RELATED TO WEAPONS.
THE PROPOSED LAW DEFINES THE TERM ADVERTISING DISPLAY AND WEAPONS AND WOULD RENDER THE SALE OF WEAPONS TO BE PROHIBITED WITHIN 750 FEET OF SCHOOLS AND PUBLIC PARKS.
THE LAW WOULD ALSO PROHIBIT DISPLAY OF WEAPONS WITHIN 1,500 FEET FROM ANY SCHOOL OR PUBLIC PARK.
DISPLAY IS DEFINED AS PLACEMENT OF AN OBJECT IN AN EXTERIOR OR INTERIOR LOCATION WHERE IT CAN BE SEEN FROM ANY PUBLIC ROAD OR SIDEWALK OR PRIVATE PROPERTY ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT AND BUILDING INSPECTOR.
THE CONCEPT FOR THIS LOCAL LAW WAS BROUGHT TO THE TOWN BOARD BY RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN WHO IDENTIFIED SCHOOLS AND PARKS AS SENSITIVE PLACES WHERE WEAPONS SHOULD NOT BE SOLD, NOR BE SUBJECT OF BLATANT ADVERTISING TO YOUTH.
NOW I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN AND THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THOSE ON ZOOM.
I DID EMAIL, UH, THIS SAME MAP, UM, TO JOSEPH DANKO AND COUNCILMAN SHEEN.
UM, SO IF, TO THE EXTENT THAT'S HELPFUL AND YOU CAN PUT THAT ON THE SCREEN, I APPRECIATE IT.
OTHERWISE, UM, I THINK WE'LL BE LIMITED TO, UH, MY SHARING ON ZOOM, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'LL DO MY BEST TO JOE, CAN YOU DISPLAY THIS? UM, JUST THAT'S WHAT I, OKAY.
DOES HE HAVE THE FILE? EXCUSE ME? DOES HE HAVE THE FILE? UM, SO THAT WOULD BE IN, IN THE INBOX.
DOES HE HAVE THE FILE? I'M NOT SURE.
DID YOU, DID YOU UH, EMAIL IT TO GEORGE AS WELL? UH, NO, BUT I, I CAN DO THAT IN, IN, IN TWO SECONDS HERE.
THERE'S THE ART OF IVI, UH, IMPROVISING.
OKAY, SO GEORGE, UH, THAT IS NOW SENT.
IT'S A P D F MAP, WHICH I'LL NOW DISPLAY ON THE SHOW.
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OKAY, HERE WE GO.WHAT I'LL DO IS TO KEEP THE MOMENTUM HERE.
I'LL, I'LL KEEP GOING AND THEN IF THAT MAP BECOMES AVAILABLE, UM, IT'LL, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PAINT A BETTER PICTURE THAN WHAT I'M GONNA DESCRIBE HERE, BUT I'LL DO MY BEST.
SO IN PREPARING MAPPING OF THE COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE DISTRICTS OF THE TOWN, IN OVERLAYING THE PORTIONS OF THOSE DISTRICTS THAT ARE WITHIN 750 FEET OF SCHOOLS AND PARKS, ONE CAN SEE THAT THE LOCAL LAW WOULD APPLY TO A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS OF THE TOWN.
SO ON THE MAP HIGHLIGHTED ARE THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE BEYOND 750 FEET FROM PARKS AND SCHOOLS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GREEN COLOR THERE.
NOW THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, I I, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO MOVE MY CURSOR HERE, BUT WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE FOUR MAJOR DISTRICTS.
OF COURSE, THE, THE AND MIXED EXCUSE DISTRICTS, THE CENTRAL AVENUE COURT, HOLD, HOLD THEM ON AND, UM, GARRETT, HOLD ON FOR A MOMENT.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE GETTING THE, WE'RE GETTING THE COMPUTER ON THE DAY AS WORK.
MR. SANS, PLEASE STOP AT AL FIRST.
THERE IS A MEETING, THERE'S THREE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HERE.
THERE IS A MEETING, RIGHT? THERE ARE THREE.
IS IT IN BRAILLE? MRS. WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DI DIFFICULTIES AND THAT DOES HAPPEN.
SO, SO THE THAT HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
I'M GONNA ASK THE OFFICER TO PLEASE REMOVE YOU IF YOU CONTINUE THESE OUT NOW CAN YOU PULL UP YOUR EMAIL AND, AND, UH, GET THE FILE? IS IT ON THIS ONE? IT SHOULD BE ON, ON THE BIG SCREEN.
YOU ACTUALLY CAN'T EVEN TURN THIS ON.
DO YOU HAVE A U S B ON YOURS THOUGH? I JUST CAN'T DISPLAY IT ON THE SAME COMPUTER UP.
DO YOU WANT DO YEAH, IT WAS MOMENTARILY.
WANT ME TO GO? YOU DON'T HAVE, WE'RE ALL MAX.
THAT'S THIS COMPUTER IS, OH, HERE IT'S TURNING ON.
I'M TEMPORARILY DISCONNECTING IT.
DON'T, ONCE THIS COMES UP, SIGN IN ON THIS ONE.
GARY, CAN YOU SEND IT? GARY, CAN YOU SEND IT TO JOE AGAIN PLEASE? UH, JOE? YES, PLEASE ASK, UH, ASK HIM TO SEND IT AGAIN.
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YOU HAD TO DO, YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE HERE BEFORE.AND JUST MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS WORKING BEFORE WE DO.
I THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD CHECK IT OUT.
NO, SO YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE, WE'RE SO YOU CHECK IT OUT.
THE STAFF MEMBERS IS ALL THIS IS ALL UP TO DATE AS WE'RE COMING IN BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE.
WELL THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAPPENED.
NO, NO, NO, I'M NOT, I'M JUST SAYING GOING FORWARD.
IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THE FIRST YEAH, NO, I AGREE WITH YOU.
'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR ANYBODY.
LISTEN, HE'S NOT IN CONTROL OF IT.
NO, BUT HE CAN JUST MAKE SURE NO, MAKE SURE, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS ALL.
NO, I FEEL THIS IS, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD THIS DID JUST MAKE SURE BEFORE WE DID, WE ALL SET UP HERE.
HOW ABOUT IF YOU CLICK DOWN ALL BECAUSE THIS IS THIS.
THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT, IT'S NOT RIGHT.
SO, SO IS IT GEORGE? SO GEORGE CAN PUT IT FROM HERE, FROM HIS, FROM HIS SCREEN.
HE CAN'T, HE TOLD ME HE CANNOT, HE CAN'T PLAY FROM HERE.
SO DO, DO WE NEED THE POWER DO UPDATE.
SO WHAT I CAN DO IS ESSENTIALLY VERBALIZE, UM, OKAY.
THE, THE IMPACT OF THE MAP, IF THAT'S OKAY.
I MEAN THERE, I MEAN WE, WE GOTTA WORK ON WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
SO WHY DON'T WE DO THAT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
SO WITH REGARD TO THE MAPPING, TO RECAP, UM, THE LOCAL LAW WOULD PROHIBIT THE SALES WITHIN 750 FEET OF SCHOOLS AND PARKS.
AND THE IMPACT OF THAT, THAT OFFSET IS THAT THERE ARE FEW SITES ON CENTRAL, UM, PERHAPS THREE TO FOUR POCKETS ON CENTRAL AVENUE THAT, UM, WOULD, WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE TO SELL WEAPONS ON ROUTE ONE 19.
THERE ARE ABOUT THREE AREAS THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ELIGIBLE, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO AREAS ON ROUTE NINE A THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE.
UM, WHEREAS PRESENTLY THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF LOTS ON, ON THESE CORRIDORS, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT EXIST THAT, THAT ALLOW GENERAL RETAIL SALES.
SO, UM, THAT SHOWS AGAIN THAT THE, THE IMPACT OF THIS LAW WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF ITS, ITS ITS SCALE.
UM, AND AGAIN IN 1500 FEET, UM, WHEN YOU OVERLAY THAT LINEAR DISTANCE FROM PARKS AND SCHOOLS, UH, THOSE NUMBERS I JUST IDENTIFIED BECOME REDUCED FURTHER.
SO ON CENTRAL AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, THERE WOULD BE ONE CLUSTER OF LOCATIONS, UM, THAT ARE BEYOND THE 1500 FEET AND, UM, THERE WOULD BE ACTUALLY NONE ON ROUTE ONE 19 CORRIDOR.
AND, UH, ONE SECTION ON THE NINE A CORRIDOR.
OKAY, AS DEFINED IN THE WALL, WEAPONS ARE PREDOMINANTLY IDENTIFIED AS FIREARMS AND KNIVES.
ONE LOCATION IN THE TOWN, LAWFULLY SELLS FIREARMS AND THE PROPERTY LINE OF THAT BUSINESS IS WITHIN 750 FEET OF A PARK.
HEY GARY, YOUR AUDIO IS GOING IN AND OUT AND THE COURT REPORTER CAN'T HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? SURE.
I WONDER THAT MAY BE AN INTERNET CONNECTION ISSUE, BUT I WILL DO MY BEST HERE.
SO AS DEFINED IN THE LAW, WEAPONS ARE PREDOMINANTLY IDENTIFIED AS FIREARMS AND KNIVES.
ONE LOCATION IN THE TOWN, LAWFULLY SELLS FIREARMS, AND THE PROPERTY LINE OF THAT BUSINESS IS WITHIN 750 FEET OF A PARK.
BUT THE ACTUAL BUILDING WHERE THE SALES OCCURS IS BEYOND 750 FEET AT A MINIMUM.
THIS IS ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT I BELIEVE IS NEEDED FOR THE DRAFT LAW.
THAT WAS IT, GARY? YES, THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS IN PRESENTATION.
OKAY, COMMENTS? ANYBODY WANNA COMMENT? YES.
NO ONE? UH, YES, WE DO HAVE, UM, A REQUEST TO SPEAK ON 4 52.
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PINE, UH, AND I LIVE IN EDGEMONT, UH, MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD.I'M HERE TONIGHT SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF PROPOSED TOWN CODE 4 5 2.
UH, ON MONDAY, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT CHAPTER 4 5 2 ENTITLED PROHIBITION OF SPECIFIED SALES DISPLAY AND ADVERTISING OF WEAPONS.
UH, OVER THE PAST YEAR, SHOPS IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN OBSERVED DISPLAYING BRIGHTLY COLORED KNIVES IN THEIR STOREFRONT WINDOWS.
UH, ONE SHOP WAS LESS THAN 500 FEET FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BASICALLY JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM FROM THAT SCHOOL.
UH, THIS WAS DEEPLY TROUBLING, UH, TO MANY RESIDENTS AND I WAS BOMBARDED WITH, WITH COMMUNICATION WHEN, WHEN THAT FIRST OCCURRED.
UH, IF ADOPTED, THIS LAW WOULD CREATE A 750 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN SCHOOLS, PUBLIC PARKS AND HOUSES OF WORSHIP, UH, ALL PLACES WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE REGULARLY CONGREGATE, UH, AND THE SALE OF SPECIFIC WEAPONS.
UH, IT'LL ALSO CREATE A 1500 FOOT ADVERTISING AND DISPLAY BUFFER BETWEEN THESE SENSITIVE LOCATIONS.
UH, ALL RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, CHILDREN WILL BE SAFER BECAUSE OF THIS LAW.
IS IT, THIS LAW IS RETROACTIVE IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S, UH, EXISTING BUSINESSES, WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT APPLY TO THEM ALSO? THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IT WOULD BE RETROACTIVE AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER DUQUE SAID IT WOULD APPLY TO ONE STORE PRESENTLY WRITTEN.
WELL, THE STENOGRAPHER, DID YOU GET DYLAN'S LAST NAME? YES.
ANYBODY ELSE? UH, NO, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON 4 52.
OKAY, THEN I, UH, WELL, JUST, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE, UH, HAVE A COMPLETE RECORD HERE, GEORGE, CAN YOU ACTUALLY DISPLAY WHAT WE NOW HAVE ON THE DAIS COMPUTER ON THE SCREENS? WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO? UH, WE NOW HAVE SOMETHING DISPLAYED ON THAT COMPUTER.
CAN YOU PUT IT ONTO THE, UH, SCREENS? DOES HE SOUND GOOD? YEAH, IT'S ON.
IT'S JUST, YOU NEED TO DISPLAY IT.
SO GARRETT, DO YOU WANNA JUST QUICKLY RUN THROUGH NOW? YEAH.
GARRETT, COULD YOU DO THAT ONE MORE TIME AND JUST DISPLAY IT ON ZOOM IMAGE ON THE SCREEN? YES, SURE.
THE FIRST TIME WAS FOR PRACTICE.
RIGHT NOW I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, IF YOU CAN JUST VERIFY THAT WHAT I DISPLAY ON THE SCREEN EQUATES TO, UH, WHAT IS DISPLAYED THERE AT TOWN HALL.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OUTSIDE SEVEN 50 BUFFER.
AND JUST TO RECAP THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE SHADED, I'M SORRY, GARRETT, COULD YOU, UH, PRESS ON THE, UH, ZOOM AND, AND GO IN A LITTLE BIT? SURE.
YOU HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE ON THE SIDES.
OKAY, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL START ON CENTRAL AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE GREEN OR AQUA COLOR PARCELS ARE THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE BEYOND 750 FEET FROM SCHOOLS AND PARKS.
AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT ON THE CENTRAL AVENUE CORRIDOR, AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, WHICH I, I'M RUNNING MY CURSOR ON, BUT YOU MAY NOT SEE THAT.
BUT, UM, IT HAS, UH, FOUR POLYGONS OF, OF, OF, OF LOTS THAT, THAT, THAT ARE BEYOND THOSE DISTANCES.
AND, UM, AS I, AS I PAN UP HERE AND ZOOM IN, UM, WITH REGARD TO ONE 19, UM, I, I SEE ONE, ONE MAJOR PARCEL, UM, CLOSE TO THE BORDER OF WHITE PLAINS.
AND, UM, AND THERE'S ONE OTHER, UH, SECTION OF PARCELS THAT ARE, UM, CLOSE TO THE, UH, VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UM, THE NINE A QUARTER, UH, YES, THERE'S A PATCH, BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA WHERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO FIND RETAIL.
UM, BUT THE, THE ONE, UM, MAJOR AREA IN THE TOWN WOULD BE, UM, ACTUALLY WHERE A GAS STATION IS, UM, WHERE THE ROUNDABOUT IS ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE TOWN ABUTTING, UH, THE TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT AND OLD SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, UM, ACTUALLY HILLWOOD ROAD, UH, SMALL POCKET THAT IS BEYOND 750 FEET.
I'M PUTTING MY CURSOR ON THAT NOW.
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SO, SO THAT, THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF, OF OF, OF THE, THE, THE FEW, UH, AMOUNTS OF PARCELS, UM, THAT ARE ACTUALLY BEYOND THE 750 FEET.AND WHEN I EXTRAPOLATE THAT TO 1500 FEET, AND AGAIN, I'LL ZOOM IN HERE, UM, THAT, THAT NUMBER, UH, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE DECREASES SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN YOU, UH, DOUBLE THAT LINEAR DISTANCE FROM PARKS.
AND, UM, AGAIN, WITH CENTRAL, UM, THERE'S THAT PARCEL, THERE'S THAT SECTION OF PARCELS THAT ARE ABOVE THE CITY OF YONKERS.
UM, TO THE LEFT THERE, YES, THERE IS A, A, A LARGE SWATH OF PARCELS, BUT THAT'S IN THE LAWRENCE STREET AND NOT TYPICALLY WHERE YOU WOULD FIND RETAIL, BUT THAT, THAT AREA DOES HAPPEN TO BE BEYOND, UH, 1500 FEET.
SO, UM, THAT GIVES YOU A, A SENSE OF THE, UH, THE, THE, THE FAR REACHING NATURE OF THIS LAW.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, WITH, WITH MY REMARKS THAT IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WAS ONE LOCATION THAT LAWFULLY SELLS, UH, FIREARMS THAT'S ACTUALLY, UM, IN THE NORTH PART OF THE TOWN.
AND, UM, I DO FEEL THAT THE LAW, UM, SHOULD BE CLARIFIED TO IDENTIFY THAT THE DISTANCE, UH, COULD BE 750 FEET FROM A LINEAR PARK, BUT I THINK THAT DISTANCE SHOULD BE TO THE ACTUAL BUILDING WHERE THE SALES TAKE PLACE.
UM, SO AS NOT TO RENDER THAT, THAT, THAT THAT LAWFULLY EXISTING LOCATION, UM, WHICH REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A RANGE AND THEY HAVE THE RETAIL SALES THERE.
UM, I DON'T, THE INTENT OF THE LAW IS, IS CERTAINLY NOT TO, UM, HAVE THAT FACILITY CLOSE.
GARRETT, I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CLICKING AWAY AND CHANGING THE 1500 FEET, BUT YOU HAVE TO LET US KNOW WHEN YOU DO THAT
AND BY HAVING THIS DISTANCE, IT AVOIDS THE COMPLAINT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM A NATIONAL ASSOCIATION THAT YOU CAN'T BAN A TOWN WIDE.
WE WOULD NOT BE BANNING A TOWN WIDE.
WE WOULD BE BANNING IT BASED ON SOME LINEAR FEAT FROM FROM SCHOOLS, CORRECT? YES.
AND, AND ACTUALLY THE DIFFERENCE IS NOT SIGNIFICANT.
IT ONLY ELIMINATES, UH, IT WOULD ONLY ELIMINATE A FEW, UH, PORTIONS OF THE TOWN, UM, MERELY ON DISPLAY.
UM, SO IF THAT WAS THE CONCERN, UH, THE 1500 FEET IS CERTAINLY LESS RESTRICTIVE, NOT SIGNIFICANTLY LESS RESTRICTIVE, UM, THAN A TOWN WIDE, UH, PROHIBITION ON DISPLAY.
OKAY, SO, UM, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE.
[ To consider a Local Law creating a new Chapter 453 in the Code of the Town of Greenburgh entitled, “Prohibition of Specified Sales, Display and Advertising of Specified Tobacco Products and Smoking Paraphernalia” (2) rescinding a Local Law previously referred to the Planning Board which related to smoke shops]
TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW CREATING A CHAPTER 4 5 3 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED PROHIBITION OF SPECIFIED SALES DISPLAY AND ADVERTISING OF SPECIFIED TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA, RESCINDING A LOCAL LAW PREVIOUSLY REFERRED TO THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH RELATED TO SMOKE SHOPS, WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR, FINER AND TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD, GARRETT DUQUE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS RELATED TO THE POTENTIAL CREATION OF A NEW CHAPTER TO THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED PROHIBITION OF SALES DISPLAY AND ADVERTISING OF SPECIFIED TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA.
THE LAW DEFINES THE TERM ADVERTISING THE TERMS DISPLAY AND WEAPONS, AND WOULD RENDER THE SALE OF SPECIFIED TOBACCO PRODUCTS TO BE PROHIBITED WITHIN 750 FEET FROM SCHOOLS AND PUBLIC PARKS.
THE LAW WOULD ALSO PROHIBIT THE DISPLAY OF SPECIFIED TOBACCO PRODUCTS REGARDLESS OF PROXIMITY TO A SCHOOL OR PUBLIC PARK.
DISPLAY IS DEFINED AS PLACEMENT OF AN OBJECT IN AN EXTERIOR OR INTERIOR LOCATION WHERE IT CAN BE SEEN FROM ANY PUBLIC ROAD OR SIDEWALK.
AN ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT AND BUILDING INSPECTOR.
THIS CONCEPT FOR THIS LOCAL LAW WAS ALSO BROUGHT TO THE TOWN BOARD BY RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN WHO IDENTIFIED THAT SCHOOLS AND PARKS ARE SENSITIVE PLACES OR SMOKING PRODUCTS AND SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA THAT ARE OFTEN TARGETED TO UNDERAGE PERSONS SHOULD NOT BE SOLD NOR BE THE SUBJECT OF BLATANT ADVERTISING.
WHAT I'M GONNA DO NOW IS AGAIN, SHARE MY SCREEN AND THIS WILL BE A, A SIMILAR CONCEPT AS WHAT I PRESENTED IN THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I'M GONNA FOCUS NOW AGAIN ON THE, UH, 750 FOOT MAP, AND I'M GONNA SHARE THAT.
I I JUST HAVE THE ONES YOU SENT PREVIOUSLY.
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MAP FOR SEVEN 50 OR IS IT DIFFERENT? YES, THE MAPS ARE THE SAME.SO I THINK THERE WERE TWO PDFS THAT I EMAILED.
AND, UM, THE FIRST ONE THAT I'M GOING TO DISPLAY IS THE 750 FEET.
ALL RIGHT, THAT'S ON THE BOARD.
OKAY, BECAUSE THIS IS A SEPARATE AND SPECIFIC PUBLIC HEARING, I'M GONNA REITERATE MY REMARKS FROM THE LAST TIME.
THE CONCEPT FOR THIS MAP IS TO SHOW THOSE PARCELS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IN AREAS THAT ALLOW RETAIL SALES.
THE, THE INTENDS TO SHOW THOSE LOTS THAT ARE BEYOND 700 AND LINE 50 LINEAR FEET FROM PARKS AND SCHOOLS.
AND AGAIN, IF WE FOCUS ON THE CENTRAL AVENUE CORRIDOR AND START IN THE, UH, SOUTHERN PORTION ABUTTING THE CITY OF YONKERS, THERE IS A SWATH OF SEVERAL PARCELS THAT ARE EITHER STANDALONE OR IN SHOPPING CENTER THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT MEET THAT CRITERIA TO TRAVEL NORTH.
UM, THERE'S ANOTHER SMALL SWATH WITH, WITH A FEW INDIVIDUAL LOTS THAT, THAT ARE BEYOND THE 750 FEET AS WE TRAVEL, UH, NORTH AGAIN, UM, IN THE HARTSDALE PORTION OF THE TOWN, UM, GOOD LANDMARK WOULD BE THE GOLF CLUB.
UH, THERE'S A SWATH OF, OF SEVERAL, UH, PARCELS THAT ARE BEYOND 750 FEET.
SO WE TRAVEL FURTHER NORTH ON CENTRAL.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A SMALL POCKET WITH ONE OR TWO PARCELS.
THEN AS THE FOCUS GOES TO THE ROUTE ONE 19 CORRIDOR, UM, THERE'S A SWATH OF LOTS THAT ARE IN THE WHITE PLAIN SHOPPING CENTER VICINITY THAT ARE INDEED BEYOND 750 FEET FROM A, UH, PARK OR A SCHOOL.
I'M GONNA ACTUALLY ASK TO DISREGARD THE, THE, THE CROSSROADS REFERENCE, UM, THAT'S CONSIDERED ONE SITE, SO THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ERROR ON THE MAP.
SO WE WILL HAVE THAT CORRECTED, UM, WHICH IS CENTERED IN MY SCREEN NOW AS YOU CONTINUE ON ON ONE 19.
NOW WE ARE, UM, WEST OF THE, UH, VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD.
THERE, THERE ARE TWO PARCELS ON THE 1 1 19 CORRIDOR IN THE OFFICE PARK DISTRICT, UM, THAT, THAT MEET THE CRITERIA ON NINE A SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
THERE ARE A SWATH OF PARCELS, UM, MORE TUCKED INTO THE INDUSTRIAL, UH, WAREHOUSING PORTION OF THE TOWN, GI ANDI DISTRICTS THAT WHILE THEY DO MEET THOSE CRITERIA, UM, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD THERE, THERE, THERE ARE NO RETAIL LOCATIONS THERE, BUT THEY ARE MAPPED AS SUCH BECAUSE THEY'RE BEYOND 750 FEET.
AND THEN AGAIN, LASTLY ON ROUTE NINE A, UM, YOU, YOU, YOU SEE THE EXISTING GAS STATION THERE ABUTTING THE, THE, THE NEW ROUNDABOUT ON, ON, UH, OLD SAW MILL RIVER ROAD.
UM, THERE'S A SMALL POCKET THERE.
UM, JUST FOR CONTEXT, UM, IF YOU SEE IT ON THE SCREEN THERE, THERE'S THE M SS G SITE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT A SITE THAT HAS RETAIL SALES, BUT IT IS INDEED, UH, OUTSIDE OF THAT 750 FEET.
AND, UH, AGAIN, THERE'S THE, UM, PORTION OF THE TOWN, UH, ON NORWOOD ROAD, ABUTTING A GRASSLANDS ROAD THAT, THAT SHOPPING PLAZA AND FEW STORES THERE, UM, THEY, THEY MEET THE CRITERIA.
UM, AND WHAT I'M GONNA DO NOW IS OH, IN, IN, IN DISSIMILAR TO THE LAST LAW, UM, WITH THIS LAW, THERE'S NOT, THE, THE LAW DOESN'T FUNCTION WITH THE 1500 LINEAR FEET ON THE DISPLAY O OF THESE ITEMS. UM, IT'S ACTUALLY A TOWN WIDE BAND.
AND, AND JUST TO REITERATE MY POINT FROM THE LAST HEARING IS, UM, THERE ARE VERY FEW SITES THAT ARE, UM, JOE BEYOND 1500 FEET IN TOWN OF GREENBURG COULD OVER.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S EXCUSE, THERE'S ONE ON CENTRAL, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME.
JACK GARRETT, COULD YOU FLIP OVER 1500? THERE YOU GO.
AND THE COLOR SHOULD HAVE, UM, EVOLVED TO A, TO A MAGENTA TYPE COLOR.
UM, DISSIMILAR FROM THE LAST MAP, THERE ARE NOT AS MANY, UM, LOTS.
THERE'S VERY FEW IN FACT, THAT ARE BEYOND THE 1500 FEET.
SO, UH, THERE'S ONE IN THE NORTH PART OF TOWN, UH, NINE A BY THAT ROUNDABOUT, UM, THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE TOWN, UM, ON CENTRAL AVENUE, BUDDING THE CITY OF YONKERS.
AND THEN, UH, LAWRENCE STREET.
THERE'S, UM, A LARGE SWATH, BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE, UM, NOT GENERALLY, UH, RETAIL LOCATIONS.
UM, SO IN THIS INSTANCE, UH, THE TOWN WIDE, UH, THE CODE IS SET UP SO THAT THE, THE DISPLAY WOULD BE PROHIBITED, CONSPICUOUS DISPLAY WOULD BE PROHIBITED, UH, TOWN WIDE REGARDLESS OF, OF THE, OF THE, UH, DISTANCE SEPARATION THERE.
SO I'M GONNA STOP, SHARE AND CONCLUDE MY REMARKS HERE.
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OKAY.AS DEFINED IN THE LAW, SPECIFIED TOBACCO PRODUCTS ARE IDENTIFIED AS TOBACCO HEATING SYSTEMS, E-CIGARETTES, ELECTRONIC NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEMS, VAPING PRODUCTS, SYNTHETIC NICOTINE PRODUCTS, OR ANY PRODUCT CONTAINING SYNTHETIC NICOTINE.
OTHER THAN THOSE AVAILABLE FROM PHARMACIES BY PRESCRIPTION ONLY, SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA IS DEFINED AS ANY PIPE, WATER PIPE, HOOKAH, ROLLING PAPERS, VAPORIZER, OR OTHER DEVICE EQUIPMENT OR APPARATUS DESIGNED OR USED FOR THE INTEL INHALATION OF TOBACCO OR RELATED SMOKING PRODUCTS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN OVERVIEW OF, OF THIS LAW AND, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THE BOARD HAS ANY AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC.
OKAY, MR. SUPERVISOR? YES, WE HAVE FOUR, UM, MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
UH, HI THERE I AM, UH, I'M STILL DYLAN PINE AND I'M, I'M STILL FROM
UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF PROPOSED TOWN CODE 4 5 3.
UH, ON MONDAY, THE EDGEMONT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UH, OR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL ALSO VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT CHAPTER 4 5 3 ENTITLED PROHIBITION OF SPECIFIED SALES DISPLAY AND ADVERTISING OF SPECIFIED TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA.
UH, I FIRST WANT TO THANK INTERIM TOWN ATTORNEY JOE DANKO AND COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEHAN, UH, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR THE FEEDBACK THE E C C HAD ON THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED TOWN CODE 4 0 5 4 AND COMING TOGETHER IN THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION TO PARTNER WITH THE E C C TO CRAFT A LAW THAT REALLY ADDRESSES THE PROBLEMS CURRENTLY THREATENING THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY'S CHILDREN.
UH, IF THIS LAW IS ADOPTED, CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE SAFER BECAUSE OF IT.
UH, CHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO WALK OUR STREETS WITHOUT BEING TARGETED WITH BRIGHTLY COLORED AND CARTOON CHARACTER ADORNED BONGS AND TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
UH, SOME IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF THIS LAW I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT.
UH, DISPLAY AND ADVERTISING IS DEFINED AS BEING VISIBLE FROM THE SIDEWALK OR STREET CLOSING, THE CURRENT LOOPHOLE IN THE STATE TOBACCO DISPLAY AND ADVERTISING LAW, WHICH ONLY REGULATES STOREFRONTS EXTERIOR WINDOWS AND ENTRY DOORS.
UH, THIS LAW CREATES A 750 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN SCHOOLS, PUBLIC PARKS, AND HOUSES OF WORSHIP, ALL PLACES WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE REGULARLY CONGREGATE, UH, AND THE SALE OF SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA AND SPECIFIED TOBACCO PRODUCTS MOST USED BY YOUNG PEOPLE SUCH AS E-CIGARETTES, VAPING PRODUCTS, AND SYNTHETIC NICOTINE.
UH, THIS LAW GIVES POLICE AND THE TOWN'S ATTORNEY OFFICE, UH, THE ABILITY TO SHUT DOWN ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
UH, CURRENTLY WITH FINES BEING THE ONLY RECOURSE AVAILABLE TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE ESTABLISHMENTS BREAKING THE LAW, IT IS CURRENTLY MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THESE ESTABLISHED ESTABLISHMENTS CONDUCTING ILLEGAL ACTIVITY TO JUST BAKE THESE FINES INTO THEIR BUSINESS MODEL AND ACTUALLY CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR AND OPERATE IN A LEGAL MANNER.
UH, THIS SAID THERE WAS ONE NON-MATERIAL EDIT.
THE E C C REQUEST BE MADE TO MAKE THE LAW STRONGER AGAINST LEGAL ATTACKS AND TOBACCO SPECIAL INTERESTS.
UH, THE RESTRICTION ON DISPLAY AND ADVERTISING SHOULD BE MODIFIED FROM A TOWN WIDE BAN TO A SPECIFIC DISTANCE FROM SCHOOLS, PARKS, AND HOUSES OF WARSHIP.
THIS WILL DEMONSTRATE THE BUFFER IS SUFFICIENTLY TAILORED TO BALANCE THE, THE MUNICIPALITY'S RIGHT TO PROTECT CHILDREN FROM THE RETAILER'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO ADVERTISE THE PRODUCTS THAT ARE LEGAL TO SELL.
UH, THE E C C FEELS THIS DRAFT ACCOMPLISHES THE GOAL PREVIOUSLY SET OUT BY THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO CREATE THE STRONGEST LAW POSSIBLE THAT WILL COMPLY WITH THE LAW.
UH, WE WISH TO SEE THIS LAW, UH, AMENDED AND THEN ADOPTED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO TALK? YES.
LINDA NER, AM I PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME CORRECTLY? RICHTER RICHTER.
I'M LINDA RICHTER, RESIDENT OF GREENBURG OF EDGEMONT.
UM, PROFESSIONALLY I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF PREVENTION, RESEARCH AND POLICY ANALYSIS AT A NATIONAL NONPROFIT LOCATED IN NEW YORK CITY CALLED PARTNERSHIP TIMES ADDICTION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS IN SUPPORT OF, UH, CODE 4 5 3.
AS A GREENBURG RESIDENT, MY NEIGHBORS AND I HAVE BEEN SEEING A PROLIFERATION OF SMOKE AND VAPE SHOPS AND PARTS OF GREENBURG THAT ARE HIGHLY VISIBLE, HIGHLY TRAFFICKED, AND A VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO LOCATIONS WHERE CHILDREN AND TEENS GO TO SCHOOL PLAY AND ATTEND RELIGIOUS SERVICES.
AS A LONGTIME RESEARCHER AND POLICY SPECIALIST IN THE AREA OF YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION, I COULD TELL YOU THAT THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR THAT THE RISK OF YOUTH NICOTINE USE IS STRONGLY RELATED TO THE DENSITY OF TOBACCO RETAIL OUTLETS AND ADVERTISING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE PROXIMITY OF THOSE OUTLETS AND ADVERTISEMENTS TO AREAS WHERE
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YOUNG PEOPLE TYPICALLY CONGREGATE.YOUNG PEOPLE ARE VERY SUSCEPTIBLE TO SIGNALS OF NORMALIZATION OF ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCES, AND THE MORE THEY'RE EXPOSED TO A PRODUCT OR TO ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THAT PRODUCT, THE MORE LIKELY THEY ARE TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY HARMFUL OR DANGEROUS.
THIS IS REASONABLE FROM A YOUNG PERSON'S PERSPECTIVE.
WHY WOULD THE ADULTS IN THEIR COMMUNITY HAVE STORES SELLING SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HARMFUL TO THEM? IF THE GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY LEADERS ALLOW IT, IT MUST NOT BE THAT BAD.
THAT'S WHY OF ALL THE YOUTH SMOKING PREVENTION TECHNIQUES EMPLOYED OVER THE PAST DECADE AND OF ALL THE VAPING PREVENTION STRATEGIES USED IN MORE RECENT YEARS, THE MOST EFFECTIVE ARE THOSE THAT RESTRICTED WHERE TOBACCO AND OTHER NICOTINE PRODUCTS COULD BE SOLD, ADVERTISED, AND USED.
THAT IS, IT WASN'T PRIMARILY THE STRATEGIES THAT URGE KIDS NOT TO USE PRODUCTS, BUT RATHER THOSE THAT EXPLICITLY REDUCED THEIR EXPOSURE AND ACCESS TO THEM.
DESPITE THE UNDENIABLE IMPORTANCE OF PARENTS' INFLUENCE AND MESSAGES TO THEIR KIDS ABOUT AVOIDING NICOTINE USE AND THE GREAT IMPORTANCE OF SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION PROGRAMS IN SCHOOLS, WE KNOW THAT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DECLINES IN THE PAST DECADES IN YOUTH SMOKING CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO POLICY LEVEL CHANGES AND RESTRICTIONS ON THE SALE AND ADVERTISING OF NICOTINE PRODUCTS AND ON CLEAN AIR LAWS THAT RESTRICT WHERE THOSE PRODUCTS COULD BE USED.
AS MUCH AS WE ALL WISH THAT PREVENTING YOUTH NICOTINE AND OTHER SUBSTANCE USE COULD BE SUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN THE HOME, LEAVING ADULTS WISHING TO USE THESE PRODUCTS LEGALLY UNBURDENED BY GOVERNMENT RESTRICTIONS, THE REALITY IS THAT EVEN PARENTS WHO DO EVERYTHING RIGHT MUST ALLOW THEIR KIDS TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES.
AND WHEN THOSE CHILDREN LEAVE THEIR HOMES, THE MESSAGES CONVEYED AS THEY PASS A VAPE SHOP ON THEIR WAY TO SCHOOL OR PARK A SHOP WITH COLORFUL SIGNS AND CANDY LIKE PRODUCTS IN THE WINDOWS ARE EXTREMELY POWERFUL AND HAVE A VERY STRONG INFLUENCE ON YOUNG PEOPLE'S ATTITUDES AND BEHAVIORS.
WITH REGARD TO THE SAFETY AND APPEAL OF USING THESE PRODUCTS, THE PROPOSED LAW CLEARLY DEFINES THE NICOTINE PRODUCTS THAT ARE MOST FLAGRANTLY DESIGNED AND MARKETED TO APPEAL TO YOUNG PEOPLE.
THESE INCLUDE VAPES AND SYNTHETIC NICOTINE PRODUCTS LIKE GUM AND LOZENGES THAT HAVE EXTREMELY HIGH LEVELS OF NICOTINE, MAKING THEM VERY ADDICTIVE TO YOUTH WHO ARE AT THE DEVELOPMENTAL STAGE MOST VULNERABLE TO DEVELOPING ADDICTION.
MOST ALSO CONTAIN NUMEROUS TOXIC INGREDIENTS THAT ARE VERY HARMFUL TO A YOUNG PERSON'S HEALTH.
THEY'RE DESIGNED TO SEEM HARMLESS AND EVEN FUN AND ENTICING TO KIDS, AND ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THAT REGARD.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THEIR WIDESPREAD DISPLAY AND SALE IN OUR TOWN CONVEYS A STRONG MESSAGE TO KIDS THAT THESE PRODUCTS ARE FINE AND NORMAL TO USE TO USE.
THAT'S WHY THIS LAW'S PROVISION TO PROHIBIT ADVERTISEMENTS AND DISPLAYS THAT CAN BE SEEN BY A YOUNG PERSON PASSING BY ON THE SIDEWALK OR STREET IS SO IMPORTANT.
FINALLY, THE PROPOSED LAW SQUARELY PUTS ENFORCEMENT IN THE HANDS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUTLINES CLEAR AND GRADUATED PENALTIES FOR VIOLATION OF THE LAW TO BE EFFECTIVE, THE COST OF VIOLATING THE LAW MUST OUTWEIGH THE GAINS TO BE HAD FROM VIOLATING THE LAW AS WE CURRENTLY SEE HAPPENING IN MANY OF THE SHOPS THAT REGULARLY AND ILLEGALLY SELL NICOTINE, AND IN SOME CASES MARIJUANA PRODUCTS, THE MINORS, KNOWING THAT THE PROFITS TO BE GAINED SURPASS ANY FINES THEY MIGHT FACE WITH DECADES OF EXPERIENCE USING POLICY TO PROTECT YOUNG PEOPLE FROM THE HARMS OF ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCES.
AND AS A LOCAL PARENT OF TEENAGERS TO WHOM THESE SHOPS AND ADS ARE MENTAL APPEAL, I STRONGLY URGE THE BOARD TO PASS THE PROPOSED LAW AND ENSURE THAT ALL GREENBERG CHILDREN GROW UP IN A SAFE, HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT AS POSSIBLE.
I HOPE I'LL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK DURING A PUBLIC HEARING, AND I WON'T BE THREATENED BY THE INTERIM TOWN ATTORNEY TO CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE I AM EXERCISING THAT, RIGHT? I'M NOT SO MUCH OPPOSED TO THIS LAW, BUT THE LANGUAGE IN IT DOES CONCERN ME.
IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ACHIEVE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
I HOPE THE TOWN BOARD IS LOOKING AT THE RESOLUTION ITSELF TO READ ALONG WITH ME UNDER DISPLAY IN AN INTERIOR, EXTERIOR, OR INTERIOR LOCATION VISIBLE FROM ANY PUBLIC ROAD OR SIDEWALK.
WHAT IS A SIDEWALK? I CAN ENVISION A ROAD, TOWN ROAD WITH A SIDEWALK TO IT.
BUT WHAT ABOUT A PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED INLAND FROM THE ROAD MIDWAY, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS ENCLOSED AREA OUTSIDE THE STORES IN THE MAIN BUILDING, IS THAT A SIDEWALK NOW? SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA, ANY PIPE, WATER, PIPE, H****R, ROLLING PAPERS, VAPORIZER, OR OTHER DEVICE EQUIPMENT OR APPARATUS DESIGNED OR USED FOR THE INHALATION OF TOBACCO OR RELATED SMOKING PRODUCTS FOLLOWED BY SPECIFIED TOBACCO PRODUCTS? WHAT ABOUT CIGARETTES?
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CIGARS, PIPES LIKE SHERLOCK HOLMES, AREN'T THEY DEVICES USED FOR THE INHALATION OF TOBACCO, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN YOUR SPECIFIED TOBACCO PRODUCTS.FURTHER DOWN, AND THIS IS MORE OF AN EDITORIAL COMMENT, DISPLAY OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS OR SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA DISPLAY OF ADVERTISING OF ANY TOBACCO PRODUCTS OR SMOKING PARAPHERNALIA IS PROHIBITED WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG.
YOU HAVE BECOME AN AUTHORITARIAN STATE.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU WILL NOW BE GOING AFTER MOVIES AND TELEVISION PROGRAMS, WHICH APPEAR WITHIN GREENBERG? THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED PRODUCT PLACEMENT.
SO IF POPULAR CHARACTER IS SEEN SMOKING AND WE WATCH IT WITHIN GREENBERG, ARE WE NOW LEGISLATING AGAINST THAT? BUT THAT'S THE MINOR ONE.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS YOUR DISPLAYS POKING PARA FOR PARAPHERNALIA AND SPECIFIED TOBACCO PRODUCTS DON'T MATCH.
UM, I ALSO SERVE WITH DYLAN PINE ON THE BOARD OF THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL.
WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE DANGERS OF SMOKING.
WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE RISK OF TOBACCO USE WHEN IT COMES TO MORTALITY RATES, ET CETERA.
SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT TOBACCO USE IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF PREVENTABLE DEATH IN THE UNITED STATES.
NOW, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO ALL THE STATISTICS.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE MANY DOCUMENTING THE THREATS WITH, UH, TOBACCO POSES TO US, OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR CHILDREN.
I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THE STATISTICS, BUT I'M GONNA SHARE A STORY.
THE OTHER DAY I WAS DRIVING DOWN TO MAIN ROAD IN GREENBURG, UH, WITH MY 10 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER IN THE BACKSEAT.
SHE POINTS TO A LOCATION THAT UNTIL RECENTLY HAD BEEN VACANT FOR A BRIEF TIME AND SAYS, DADDY, I'M GLAD THAT OLD STORE GOT CLOSED DOWN, BECAUSE NOW IN ITS PLACE THERE'S A CANDY STORE.
EXCEPT IT WASN'T A CANDY STORE, IT WAS A SMOKE SHOP.
SHE DIDN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
NOW, IT'S NO SECRET THAT THE, THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY TARGETS CHILDREN IN ITS MARKETING AND IN THE PRODUCTS IT OFFERS.
I DON'T HAVE THE NOMENCLATURE TO DESCRIBE ALL THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT FLAVORED TOBACCO AND NICOTINE RELATED PRODUCTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED TO ENTICE OUR CHILDREN.
BUT I CAN SAY THAT THESE PERNICIOUS TACTICS DESIGNED TO ENTICE AND ATTRACT CHILDREN INTO THESE STORES AND GET THEM HOOKED, GET THEM A LIFELONG CUSTOMER FROM A YOUNG AGE HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE CHILDREN OF GREENBURG ARE PAYING ATTENTION.
SO IT'S UP TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS IN GREENBURG TO PROTECT AND TO DEFEND OUR CHILDREN.
THAT'S WHY I URGE YOU TO ADOPT THE MEASURES IN CHAPTER 5 42, 43 AND 5 44.
UH, I URGE YOU TO DO THAT THE STRONGEST WAY IF POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE NO FURTHER REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING, THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, UH, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF A SEC.
WE ARE CLOSING THEN I, IF NOBODY WANTS TO SPEAK, UM, THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING, YOUR HONOR.
BUT, BUT BEFORE YOU DO, BEFORE YOU DO, UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE, UH, TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS, UM, ADVISED US ABOUT IS THE LIKELY CHALLENGE TO THE LAW ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
IF WE LEAVE IT AS WRITTEN, THAT WE PASS IT AND AS SOON AS IT GETS TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE, WE GO AND SHUT DOWN THE SHOPS WITHOUT NOTICE.
AND SO WE MAY ACTUALLY NEED TO PUT IN AN MOTORIZATION CLAUSE.
AND, UM, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT THE GROUP THAT WAS MEETING, UM, MEET AGAIN TO DISCUSS WHAT DURATION THAT AMORTIZATION CLAUSE WOULD HAVE.
AND SO I'M NOT ASKING US TO HOLD OVER THE HEARING.
I'M ASKING THAT WE, UM, LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR 10 DAYS.
GIVES US ALL NEXT WEEK TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
I'M PUTTING IT INTO THE RECORD NOW THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
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TO HAVE A DI DISCUSSION OR COMMENT ABOUT AN AMORTIZATION CLAUSE, YOU CAN DO THAT NOW.BUT, UM, I I THINK IT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE THE LAW STRONGER, UM, FOR US TO HAVE THAT MEETING AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE PUT THAT CLAUSE ONLY TO THE SALES OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS, NOT THE ADVERTISING OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
SO THAT WAY, RIGHT WHEN THIS LAW IS SENT TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE, THE ADVERTISING RESTRICTIONS WOULD TAKE PLACE IMMEDIATELY.
I THINK THE LAW WOULD HOLD UP AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN IN TERMS OF ADVERTISING.
BUT FOR SALES, I THINK THE AMORTIZATION CLAUSE, UM, WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
AND ALSO, AS DYLAN POINTED OUT, I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST CHANGING THE ADVERTISING RESTRICTION TO A 1500 SQUARE FOOT AREA AS OPPOSED TO TOWN WIDE.
FRANCIS, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN, UM, WHAT AN AMORTIZATION CLAUSE IS IN RELATION TO THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION? YOU, IN? IN OTHER WORDS, INSTEAD OF HAVING OUR BUILDING INSPECTORS GO OUT ON THE FRIDAY, WE PASSED THE LAW ON A WEDNESDAY, WE FILED THE SECRETARY OF STATE, IT TAKES THREE OR FOUR DAYS SOMETIMES.
YOU HAVE TO CLEAR OUT YOUR INVENTORY AND GET IT OUT AND, UH, NOT SELL IT ANYMORE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DISPLAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SALE OF IT.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THE CURRENT SHOPS THAT ARE OPEN TO REMAIN FOR CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO BE DETERMINED BEFORE THE LAW WOULD TAKE EFFECT TO THOSE CURRENTLY OPEN STORES.
SO GIVE THEM, SO IF THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN A LEASE MM-HMM.
UM, AND TO NOT BE HARM FURTHER, THEY WOULDN'T BE, UH, YOU KNOW, AFFECTED RIGHT WHEN THIS WAS PASSED.
IN TERMS OF SALES ONLY, I THINK FOR ADVERTISING, UM, TO, AS EVERYONE POINTED OUT HERE, PARENTS WITH YOUNG CHILDREN WHO THINK, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, THESE ARE CANDY SHOPS AND MM-HMM.
SO IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT, UH, BUT I'D ALSO SUGGEST THAT WE LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR 10 DAYS AND IT GIVES US ALL NEXT WEEK, UH, TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, UH, UM, ADJOURN THE HEARING FOR 10 DAYS.
CLOSE THE HEARINGS AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR 10 DAYS.
UH, NEXT, UM, WE HAVE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE HAVE ANOTHER HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A MODIFICATION WITH RESPECT TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN APPLICATION OF AVALON GREEN WAS, OH, I SEE YOU, I'M SORRY.
[ To consider a request for a modification with respect to a previously approved Site Plan Application of Avalon Green III, LLC, for property located at Town Green Drive (P.O. Elmsford, NY)]
TO REQUEST, UM, FOR MODIFICATION WITH, UH, WITH RESPECT TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN APPLICATION OF AVALON GREEN FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT TOWN GREEN DRIVE.GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR FEINER AND TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS.
FOR THE RECORD, GARY QUE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS A CONTINUATION OF THE HEARING HELD ON OCTOBER 14TH, 2020 AND JANUARY 21ST, 2021, AND PERTAINS TO A REQUEST FROM NEW OWNERS OF THE VISTA, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS THE MULTIFAMILY AVALON DEVELOPMENT, WHO SEEK TO DISCONTINUE A CONDITION OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL RELATED TO A REQUIREMENT FOR A SHUTTLE FOR ITS RESIDENTS TO THE TARRYTOWN METRO NORTH TRAIN STATION.
DURING PEAK COMMUTER HOURS, THE VISTA REQUESTS A RELEASE FROM THE SHUTTLE REQUIREMENT DUE TO WELL RIDERSHIP.
ANNIE KLEIN, ATTORNEY REPRESENTATIVE ON BEHALF OF THE VISTA IS PRESENT TO GIVE ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND.
CAN I JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION BEFORE, UH, UH, THE LAST TIME WE WERE GOING TO WORK, WE WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND I THINK WE WERE GONNA BE PUTTING A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE, THE PLAYGROUND.
UH, I UNDERSTAND IT WAS FOR PARKING AT TAX RIDGE PARK WHERE WE DID THE PARKING ALREADY, BECAUSE THAT'S DONE.
WOULD, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT YEAH.
I BELIEVE IF IT'S THE SAME CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT, AND THEN YES, WE WOULD BE FOR ANY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA.
BECAUSE THAT, THE PLAYGROUND WAS JUST OPENED UP, UH, I THINK LIKE LAST WEEK OKAY.
IT WAS LIKE AMAZING AND REALLY FANTASTIC.
AND IF WE COULD GET LIKE A SIDEWALK, UH, IN FRONT OF THE, THAT AREA, I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE'D BE REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, REAL, LIKE THEY'RE OLD.
WHAT DOES I HAVE TO, UM, MS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
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EVENING, SUPERVISOR, FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD.MY NAME IS ANNIE KLEIN AND I'M AN ASSOCIATE AT DELBELLO DUNNE AND WEINGART.
AND WE AND WHITAKER HERE AT TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE OWN, THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE VISTA, A TOWN GREEN, LOCATED AT 500 TOWN GREEN DRIVE, WHICH AS, UH, COMMISSIONER DUQUE SAID WAS FORMERLY AVALON GREEN.
UM, WITH ME THIS EVENING IS TIKI DURAND, WHO IS THE PROPERTY MANAGER.
UM, AS COMMISSIONER DUQUE SAID, WE FIRST PETITIONED YOUR BOARD IN JUNE, 2020 FOR REMOVAL OF THE CONDITION OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL, REQUIRING THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A SHUTTLE SERVICE TO LOCAL TRAIN STATIONS.
AND SINCE THAT TIME, AS SUPERVISOR FEER MENTIONED, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE EAST IRVINGTON CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND WORKED OUT, UM, A PAYMENT OF $120,000 FOR PARKING ATTACHED TO RIDGE PARK, WHICH IF I UNDERSTAND HAS BEEN COMPLETED THEN OTHER PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, WE'D CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO SHIFT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT TO OTHER PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA.
UH, WE ALSO, AT THE DIRECTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OFFERED THE SHUTTLE SERVICE FOR FREE, UH, FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2021 TO OCTOBER 5TH, 2021, AND FOUND THAT THE USAGE RATE CONTINUED TO REMAIN AROUND 1% OF THE TOTAL RESIDENTS OF THE, OF THE, UM, OF THE VISTA.
UM, SO ACCORDINGLY, WE HAVE SATISFIED ALL OF YOUR REQUESTS TO DATE, UM, AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER REMOVING THE CONDITION THAT WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SHUTTLE SERVICE.
UM, JUST TO REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION, THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS RELEASE IS PARTIALLY BECAUSE LOW RIDERSHIP, THERE'S ABOUT 1,265 RESIDENTS AT THE VISTA.
IT'S ALMOST AT FULL CAPACITY, AND THERE'S ONLY BEEN FOR, SINCE IT'S BEEN OFFERED SINCE 2016, THERE'S BEEN ABOUT A 1% USER RATE DURING EVERY ANNUALLY OVER THAT ENTIRE TIME.
IT COSTS APPROXIMATELY $68,000 FOR, UM, THE, THE OWNERS TO RUN THIS SHUTTLE SERVICE EVERY YEAR.
SO IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND IT'S HAS VERY LOW USAGE.
AND, UM, CURRENTLY, UH, THE BIGGEST REASON WE WERE ASKING FOR RELEASE IS BECAUSE THE VENDOR HAS BEEN INCONSISTENT AND UNRELIABLE, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND A NEW VENDOR.
AND SO, DUE TO ALL OF THESE SITUATIONS, UM, AND THE FACT THAT THE CONDITION IN THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL DOES ALLOW US TO COME BACK AND PETITION FOR REMOVING OF THAT CONDITION, UH, THAT IT HAS LED US TO THIS, UH, THIS TIME.
WELL, THAT WAS A TERRIFIC EXPLANATION AND SUMMARY AND ACCURATE TO MY RECOLLECTION.
UH, FOR THOSE FEW THAT ARE USING IT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO NOW? SO THE SHUTTLE SERVICE COSTS APPROX, IT COSTS A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH TO RESIDENTS.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT FOR THEM TO GET UBER TO AND FROM THE TRAIN STATION FOR A MONTH WOULD BE ABOUT THE SAME PRICE.
IT'D BE ABOUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THEM.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE BASICALLY THEM TAKING THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE SHUTTLE AND USING IT IN UBER INSTEAD.
BUT IT WOULDN'T END UP BEING THAT MUCH OF A PRICE DIFFERENCE, UM, OVER THE COST OF THE SHUTTLE, WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY PAYING.
AND IT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT, THE CIVIC GROUP HAS ACTIVELY SUPPORTED THIS.
SINCE WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THEM AND GETTING A, GETTING A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF A NEW PLAYGROUND WOULD BE TO ME LIKE A REALLY GRADE, UH, YOU KNOW, ASSET BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN BUILDING SIDEWALKS ALL OVER THE TOWN.
WE HAVEN'T BUILT IT ANYTHING THERE.
SO IF WE GET A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE, THE PLAYGROUND AREA THAT IT'S, IT'S CALLED THE OLD SCHOOL, THEN IT COULD LEAD TO TEXT OR ROAD BECAUSE EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A SIDEWALK ALONG THE ENTIRE TAXI ROAD AREA AND OUT JUST LIKE THE WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UH, SIDEWALK THAT IS, THAT WE GOT FUNDING FOR THAT WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER FOR A WHOLE MAJOR, UH, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD.
HOW, HOW DOES, I'M SORRY, I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
HOW THAT, DOES THAT CORRELATE WITH THE REQUEST? WELL, BASICALLY, UH, WHEN YOU FIRST PROPOSED THIS LAST YEAR, UH, TWO YEARS AGO,
UM, BUT, UM, THE THING IS, UM, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MET WITH THE APPLI, THE AVALON, AND THEN THEY BASICALLY SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO RELEASE THE OBLIGATIONS IF WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, PARKING AREA AT THE PLAYGROUND.
UM, WE BUILT THE PARKING AREA BECAUSE IT'S, IT WAS GOING ON AND ON AND ON.
AND THE PARKING AREA WAS BUILT, FINISHED ABOUT A WEEK AGO, OR TWO WEEKS AGO, COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
SO NOW, INSTEAD OF USING THE, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDS FOR PARKING, BECAUSE WE, WE PAID FOR IT ALREADY, YOU KNOW, I'M SUGGESTING
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THAT WE PUT A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF, UM, UH, THE TEXT IN FRONT OF THE PLAYGROUND AREA THAT WOULD COVER ABOUT A, THAT'S ABOUT 120 FOOT THAT THAT WOULD COVER.IT WOULDN'T GO AS FAR AS WE AS WE CAN.
SO THE, THE, INSTEAD OF PAYING THE MONIES FOR THE SHUTTLE, THEY WOULD PAY TOWARDS THE SIDEWALK, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, IT'S, WE WOULD RELEASE THEM, BUT IN, IN CONSIDERATION FOR RELEASING, THEY WOULD GIVE THE TOWN $125,000 FOR, FOR, FOR A SIDEWALK.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR FOR THAT AREA.
SO DO WE, I, WHEN PAUL IS SAYING, UM, THEY, THEY HAVE DECIDED, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF AVALON GREEN.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY SURVEYED THE PEOPLE IN AVALON GREEN AND SAID, YOU KNOW, SO WE GOOD RIDS? WE DID NOTICE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
WE SENT AN EMAIL WITH THE PUBLIC NOTICE TO EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT.
WE ALSO POSTED, UM, NOTICE OF PUBLIC OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AT EVERY ELEVATOR LOBBY.
COMMON AREAS OUT THERE ARE SIGNS OUTSIDE OF EACH DOOR.
WE, UM, YOU KNOW, SIGN POSTS THAT YOU CAN POST, UH, NOTICE MATERIALS.
AND AS I UNDERSTAND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS HERE THIS EVENING, BUT, UM, UH, A COUPLE PEOPLE DID REACH, A COUPLE RESIDENTS DID REACH OUT TO, UH, THE OWNER OF THE VISTA ASKING, YOU KNOW, TO DISCUSS WITH THEM OPTIONS.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE DISCUSSING WITH THEM, UM, OTHER OPTIONS.
BUT I, I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT, THEIR OPTION IS REALLY TO, UM, USE UBER, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AS THE SHUTTLE SERVICE.
WE HAD ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK, BUT THE GENTLEMAN HAS SINCE LEFT AND THERE ARE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
[ PUBLIC COMMENT Advance signup is required. A continuous five minute limit per speaker will be strictly enforced. The clock will start when a speaker begins speaking and will not be stopped for any reason until the speaker is finished or five minutes has elapsed, whichever occurs first. Interruptions by Town Board members, the Town Clerk or the public will not be permitted. If a speaker insists on an immediate answer, should an answer be provided, it shall be part of the speaker's five minute allocation and not be interrupted. There will not be a second five minute round. Any written comments sent to PublicComment@GreenburghNY.com by 6 PM the day of the hearing will be forwarded to all Town Board members in advance of the meeting for their consideration. Written comments will not be read at the meeting unless the original author is present to do so.]
NEXT UP WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT.SO, AND FOLLOW MR. SAM S LAST TOWN BOARD MEETING.
YOU VOTED TO APPOINT FRANK, AND AT THAT TIME, UH, IT WASN'T A UNANIMOUS VOTE, MR. FINER, MR. SHEEN, UH, ABSTAINED.
AND NOW WE KNOW AT TODAY'S AGENDA WHY THEY AB IT WASN'T MR. FINER AND MR. SHEEN, IT WAS MR. FINER AND MR. JONES THAT ABSTAINED, I'M SORRY, I CORRECT IT, MS. MS. JONES.
NOW WE KNOW WHY THAT ABSTENTIONS CAME IN, WHICH MAKES ME QUESTION WHY THE OTHER THREE DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME FEELINGS ABOUT IT.
OF COURSE, THREE MAKES MAKES THE NECESSITY OF PASSING RESOLUTION.
SO IT WAS GONNA BE DECIDED ANYWAY.
BUT OF COURSE, ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS A T THREE, FOUR AND FIVE, WHICH ARE THE ARI PROCEEDINGS IN FAVOR OF MR. MOORE.
NOT FOR SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY, MIND YOU, BUT IT EXPLAINS WHY THERE WERE ABSTENTIONS AND OTHERS IGNORED IT.
THIS IS THE LEASE OF TOWN LAND FOR BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEMS. WHEN I LEFT FOR THE MEETING TONIGHT, THERE WAS NO BACKUP YET EITHER THE LEASES AS EXPLAINED B APPENDIX B AS WELL AS A COMPLETE OPTION TO OFFER SUCH A LEASE.
SO I'M ASKING THAT YOU HOLD IT OVER AS YOU DO BY CUSTOM P O THREE TO REPLACE CAMERA SYSTEMS, OR AT LEAST TO GO OUT TO BID FOR CAMERA AT TOWN HALL AT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS.
BUT I HAVE TO WONDER WHY WE ARE THROWING ALL THIS MONEY AWAY IN LIEU OF ACTUALLY BUILDING A NEW MODERN POLICE HEADQUARTERS, WHICH YOU SPECIFIED WAS NEEDED, NECESSARY, AND ESSENTIAL IN AUGUST, OF COURSE, TO BALANCE THE BUDGET AND FOR A LITTLE GOODIES IN THE WAY OF TAXPAYERS THIS YEAR, YOU TOOK $8.3 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE FOR UNINCORPORATED, WHICH PRACTICALLY MOVES A NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS TO MAYBE THE NEXT MILLENNIUM, BECAUSE HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THAT MONEY BACK?
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SO POLICE HEADQUARTERS NO LONGER NECESSARY.LET'S CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY ON BAND-AIDS WHILE THE PRICE TO ACQUIRE OR TO BUILD ONE GOES UP CONTINUALLY, ESPECIALLY WITH INTEREST RATES RISING.
WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE BUDGET AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, BUT TAXPAYERS, YOU ARE PAYING A TAX INCREASE BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IT.
I HAD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE NEW TOWN BOARD REGULATION THAT IN PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT YOU'VE ELIMINATED THE SECOND ROUND IN LIEU OF THE HEARING NOT BEING CLOSED.
GENERALLY IT'S THOUGHT THAT IN PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE WISDOM OF THE PUBLIC SUCH AS IT WERE OR ISN'T, IS APPRECIATED AND SOUGHT BY THE TOWN BOARD.
THAT'S THE BASIS WHY PUBLIC HEARINGS EXIST.
SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN YOU DECIDED THIS AND WHERE YOU DECIDED THIS, BECAUSE EFFECTIVELY BY REMOVING, BY KEEPING THE HEARING OPEN, YOU'VE REMOVED FIVE MINUTE, SECOND ROUND FROM THE PUBLIC THAT ACTUALLY BOTHERS TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND PROLONGED THE AGONY THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN, AS LONG AS YOU KEEP THE HEARING OPEN ONLY FOR FIVE MINUTE BITES, WHILE THE APPLICANT HAS UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF APPEARANCES BEFORE YOU UNLIMITED SPEAKING TIME, AS WELL AS HIS TEAM ASSEMBLED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERSUADING YOU.
DOES PUBLIC COMMENT DURING A PUBLIC HEARING MATTER TO THE TOWN BOARD OR NOT? BECAUSE IF YOU MADE UP YOUR MIND ON YOUR OWN, THEN WHY DON'T YOU SEEK A WHOLE RULE EXCEPTION FOR GREENBERG TO ELIMINATE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS? MEETINGS WOULD END A LOT SOONER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURTESY OF NOT GOING TO SLEEP.
I'M A RESIDENT OF, UH, JUNIPER HILL.
UM, I'M, I'M HERE, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THIS DECISION, UM, THAT YOU MADE, UM, ON METROPOLIS.
AND, UM, AND THE FACT IS THAT THE, UH, THAT A LOT OF THE BACKUP THAT WAS SHOWN ALONG WITH THE DECISION DIDN'T MATCH ANY CONDITIONS OR CHANGES.
IT WAS ONLY REFLECTED STUFF THAT WAS DONE BACK IN MARCH, IN JUNE.
AND THERE WAS BEEN SOME CONVERSATION, BY THE WAY, THE CONVERSATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAD, UH, SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THE COMMUNITY MUCH EARLIER THAN IT DID IN LATE SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, WHICH IT DID UNTIL WE, I SHOWED UP HERE AND ASKED FOR A SITE VISIT AND, AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
BUT THE BACKUP THAT YOU PUT ON THAT, ON THAT DECISION DOES NOT REFLECT SOME OF THE CHANGES WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST PUBLIC MEETING.
AND THE OTHER PART THAT WAS MISSING HERE IS THE FACT THAT PLAN, THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE TOWN BOARD AND THE TOWN PLANNER NEVER, NEVER ADDRESS CONDITIONS.
AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND OTHER AND OTHER TOWN, OTHER TOWN AGENCIES THAT NEEDED TO BE CONTACTED, LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE D O T STATE AND LOCAL.
YOU SPEND MORE TIME TALKING TO YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT ABOUT A PARKING LOT THAT YOU DID ABOUT A STREET THAT IS SHAMEFUL.
YOU DIDN'T BRING YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO TALK ABOUT A STREET, AND BY THE WAY, IT IS A STREET.
AND THE MINUTE YOU ASSIGN THAT AS A STREET, IT HAS TO BE TWO LANES.
TWO LANES, AND THEN THE CONVERSATION SHOULD BE AWARE WHERE TO PLACE THE SIDEWALK.
RIGHT NOW, IF THE, IF THE SITE, IF THE, IF THE SITE PLANT THAT I SAW AS PART OF THEIR DECISION, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DRIVEWAY, AND GUESS WHAT, IF YOU LET 'EM BUILD A DRIVEWAY INSTEAD OF A ROAD, WHICH IT IS, YOU DON'T EVEN NEED A SIDEWALK.
'CAUSE DRIVEWAYS DON'T NEED SIDEWALKS.
SO YOU MADE THIS DECISION, NOBODY RETURNED MY CALLS OR I I ADDRESSED IT WITH, UH, WITH A SUPERVISOR ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I I ADDRESSED IT TO A, A COMMISSIONER, FIRE DEPARTMENT COMMISSION.
HE ADDRESSED IT TO THE, TO HIS CHIEF.
NO ONE, NO ONE GOT BACK TO ME ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS NEVER CONSULTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, THE TOWN BOARD OR THE TOWN PLANNER, WHATEVER HIS TITLE IS.
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I JUST, I'M JUST CONFUSED.YOU KNOW, THIS IS A QUESTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY ON A PUBLIC ROAD, AND YOU'RE SPENDING LITERALLY NO TIME ON IT.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE HANGING YOUR HAT ON SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID BY THE POLICE, UH, TRAFFIC PERSON WHO THREW OUT THIS FACT THAT THEY COULD PUT A STOP SIGN AND MAKE THAT CROSSING SAFER, WHICH IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE FROM EVER AND EVER AND EVER, EVERY MEETING THAT WE'VE HAD WITH ZEN HAS TOLD US THAT THEY CAN'T PUT A STOP SIGN ON FAIR STREET.
AND HE STILL TOLD THIS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD TO PLACATE THEM ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS.
WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO, WITH ALL THE, THE APPLICABLE AGENCIES IN THE, IN THE APPLICABLE STAKEHOLDERS AND COME TO DECISIONS THAT BENEFIT, BENEFIT ALL OF US.
NOT JUST THE APPLICANT OR THE SCHOOL, BUT ALL THE USERS.
AND YOU KNOW, AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS ALL WORKS BECAUSE I'M NOT, I'M NOT INVOLVED IN IN TOWN POLITICS OR IN, IN, IN PROCEDURES.
BUT THE FACT IS, YOU MADE A DECISION AND ALL THE INFORMATION WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO YOU.
AND, AND IF WE KEEP DOING THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE KIND OF RESULTS WE'RE GOING TO GET ARE NOT, I I I NOT THE BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR SAFETY, FOR EVERYBODY CONCERNED.
IT'S A, IT'S AN EXTENSION OF JUNI HILL ROAD.
IT IS NOT A DRIVEWAY AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS A TOWN ROAD USING YOUR TRAFFIC PLANNER AS, AS MUCH AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH HIM AND SPENDING MONEY ON TO TALK ABOUT A PARKING LOT THAT WHICH IS IN PRIVATE PROPERTY.
YOU'RE NOT SPENDING THE TIME OR THE MONEY.
OKAY? I WANT TO HEAR RESPONSES FROM YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT DOING THE PUBLIC SERVICE.
YOU'RE DOING A SERVICE FOR THE APPLICANTS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
IT'S A ROAD, IT NEEDS TWO LANES, IT NEEDS TO SIDEWALK, AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE SIDEWALK SHOULD BE A CONNECTOR TO THE FUTURE SIDEWALK THAT WAS PROMISED.
CAN I ASK, UH, GARRETT A QUESTION? UH, UH, MANNY HAD, UM, INDICATED, UM, UH, THAT THE FIRE CHIEF WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, CONSULTED, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, AND ASKED FOR A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEY BEEN, UH, CONTACTED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? AND IF, UH, IF NOT, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO, UM, UM, PUT THIS OVER AND THEN ASK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO GIVE US THE BENEFIT OF THEIR, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEIR REVIEWS.
AND ALSO, UM, FOLLOWING UP ON YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, ON THE, THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, YOU KNOW, HAVE WE ASKED FOR THE, OUR INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, REVIEW, UH, MANNY'S, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU AND I KNOW YOU'RE VERY DEDICATED, UM, UM, PUBLIC SERVANT, AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT TO GIVE YOUR COMMENTS, UM, SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.
AND, AND GARRETT, I, I ECHO, I ECHO THE CONCERNS OF THE, OF THE TOWN SUPERVISOR FIRE DISTRICT, AND IT'LL JUST TAKE ME A FEW MINUTES TO PULL THAT UP.
SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR BUSINESS.
SO PRIOR TO, UH, GETTING TO THAT CD RESOLUTION, I CAN, I CAN VERIFY, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE SENT IT TO THE FIRE DISTRICT AND IF THEY HAD COMMENTS AS FAR AS TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S STAFF USES DISCRETION ON, BASED ON THE LEVEL OF PARKING AND, UM, I'M SORRY, THE LEVEL OF, OF SERVICE THAT'S BEING DELIVERED TO A SITE.
IS IT SIGNIFICANT? IS IT, YOU KNOW, JUST A FEW TRIPS, LIKE IS THE CASE IN THIS PROPOSAL AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN STAFF PLANNING BOARD, UM, THERE WAS, THERE WAS NEVER ANY, ANY THOUGHT TO EVEN SENDING PROJECT LIKE THIS TO A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
AND WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE OF, UH, LIEUTENANT BREXTON, UM, THIS FOR A MORE SUBSTANTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE WOULD'VE DONE SO, UH, WE DID SO WHEN THE SCHOOL PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, CONSOLIDATION, BUT, UM, THIS IS ULTIMATELY A PROJECT WHICH THEY GAVE US THE TRIP, YOU KNOW, THE TRIP STATISTICS, UH, WHO WOULD BE USING THAT SITE? IT, IT'S MINIMAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW DELIVERIES PER WEEK, SMALL AMOUNT OF STAFF, UM, INCLUDING A SIDEWALK.
SO THERE REALLY IS, WAS WAS NOTHING FOR A TRAFFIC CONTROL TO LOOK INTO THE, THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, IF IT TURN, IF WE DO BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ASKING IN TERMS OF THE REVIEW, AND THEN WE MAKE A DECISION, NOBODY COULD SAY, WE DIDN'T SERIOUSLY REVIEW, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OPTIONS AND ALL THE ISSUES, AND I SORT OF FEEL,
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I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW I'M GONNA VOTE ON THIS, BUT I'M SAYING I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE REACHED OUT.YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY IF WE DON'T VOTE ON IT TODAY, WE REACH OUT TO THE FIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE ASK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO SAY YES OR NO, YOU KNOW, NOT NEUTRALS, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
THEN I FEEL IF WE ASK, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT BECAUSE THIS IS BEING DONE AT THE REQUEST OF THE CIVIC GROUP MM-HMM.
ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT WE REOPEN THE HEARING? 'CAUSE THE RECORD IS CLOSED? UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, MY FEELING IS THAT IF WE HAVE THE CONS, IF WE HAVE LIKE A, IF WE ASK GAR TO, UM, UH, REACH OUT TO THE, THE CONSULTANT, UH, CONSULTANT, UM, AND THEN THEY TELL US BASICALLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, GIVE US OPINIONS.
I'M NOW LOOKING FOR LONG-TERM DELAYS.
I'M JUST LOOKING TO GIVE, UM, THE RESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH WE'VE DONE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST AND, YOU KNOW, BE, YOU KNOW, BE, UM, YOU KNOW, BE THOROUGH, AS THOROUGH AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN WE MAKE A DECISION AND WE'LL ALL FEEL GOOD BETTER ABOUT IT.
ARE YOU HOLDING THIS OVER THEN? I'LL HOLD IT OVER THEN, AND THEN I'LL HOLD IT OVER.
AND, UM, THEN WHAT I'LL, I WOULD ASK GARRETT, IF YOU COULD, UM, UM, I MEAN, GARRETT, DO YOU THINK, UM, WE COULD GET ASK THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO MAKE, UH, A RECOMMENDATION QUICKLY? YEAH, THAT'S NO PROBLEM.
I'LL REACH OUT AND, UM, I'LL, I'LL CONFIRM THE FIRE DISTRICT, UH, UH, CORRESPONDENCE AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GET JOHN CANNING OUT THERE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
I'LL, I'LL, UM, LINK HIM UP WITH, WITH, UH, LIEUTENANT BREXTON.
WE'LL MAKE A SITE VISIT AND, UH, WE'RE, WE WILL REPORT BACK FINDINGS OF, OF MR. CANNING.
COULD WE ALSO, WITH THE FIRE DISTRICT, JUST ASK THEM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THEY FEEL, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD AGREE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH MANNY THAT IT'S EITHER SAFETY CONCERNS OR THEY MAY SAY, WE HAVE NO SAFETY CONCERNS, AND THEY TELL US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD FEEL, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE, BE MUCH BETTER.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS, UH, THEY, THEY DO ALL OF THIS, UM, THEN WE COULD VOTE, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY, WE'LL VERIFY THAT.
MAY, MAY I SUGGEST THAT YOU REOPEN THE RECORD FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AS OPPOSED TO REOPENING, UH, THE HEARING.
BUT JUST TO KEEP OPEN THE RECORD SO THAT THAT INFORMATION COLLECTED CAN GO TO THE, YOUR DETERMINATION.
UM, I MOVE THAT THE RECORD BE REOPENED SO THAT WE CAN DO, AS YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
FOR, FOR HOW LONG, FOR WHAT, GARRETT, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED? WE NEED 10 DAYS.
I THINK NINE DAYS TO BRING US TO, UH, A WEEK FROM THIS FRIDAY COMING UP WOULD BE, UH, APPRECIATED.
UM, DO WE WHAT NEXT? WHAT'S THE NEXT THING? WHAT'S NEXT? YEAH, WE, WE DON'T, WELL, DO YOU ANY MORE COMMENT IF, UH, OKAY.
THERE'S NO, UH, ACTUALLY, I'LL STAY AFTER THE MEETING TO LISTEN TO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
JOEL, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING OR ARE YOU JUST HANGING OUT? SHE SPOKE.
OH, SHE'S HANGING AROUND FOR THE COMMENT.
JEWEL, WERE YOU HANGING AROUND FOR SPEAKING AGAIN? RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TOWN.
[ TB 1 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a one year contract commencing January 1, 2021 through December 31, 2021 with the Village of Ardsley for Fire Protection services to the Chauncey Fire Protection District, at a cost not to exceed $9,335.78]
SUPER.CONGRATULATIONS TO ENTER INTO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2021 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2021 WITH THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO THE
AT A CLOSE NOW TO EXCEED $9,335 AND 78 CENTS.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ TB 2 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a one year contract commencing January 1, 2021 through December 31, 2021 with the Village of Ardsley for Fire Protection Services to the South Ardsley Fire Protection District, at a cost not to exceed $313,466.07]
AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR CAN INTO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2021 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2021, WITH THE VILLAGE OF LEY FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO THE SOUTH LEY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT AT A COURSE NOT TO EXCEED 313,000 4 66 0 7.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ AT 1 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Craryville Realty LLC for property located at 21 Main Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $229±; the County’s share is $1,707±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $242±; the Tarrytown Union Free School District’s share is $10,808±. Refunds from all sources total $12,986±.]
TERTIARY SETTLEMENT FOR PETITIONER, UM, CURRY, UM, VILLA REALTY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 21 MAIN STREET.REFUNDS FROM WALL SOURCES TOTALED 12,986.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE.
[ AT 2 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Andrew Vanover and Jacqueline Vanover for property located at 251 Benedict Avenue. The Town’s share of the refund is $35±; the County’s share is $247±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $37±; the Tarrytown Union Free School District’s share is $1,641±. Refunds from all sources total $1,960±.]
AUTHORIZING TAX RY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER ANDREW VNO AND JACQUELYN VNO FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 51[03:00:01]
BENEDICT AVENUE.UM, REFUNDS FROM WALL SOURCES TOTAL 1960.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THOSE SECOND.
WELL, ACTUALLY, THE, THE, THE REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES TOTAL $1,960.
[ AT 3 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Frank Morabito for property located at 23 Church Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $217±; the County’s share is $1,598±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $230±; the Tarrytown Union Free School District’s share is $10,264±. Refunds from all sources total $12,308±.]
ON A THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE.SO, DOES ANYBODY WANT MAKE A MOTION RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED IN THE TAX ASCI SETTLEMENT? PETITIONER BACK MARTO FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 23 CHURCH STREET TOWN SHARES A REFUND IS $217.
SONO RIVER SEWER DISTRICT SHARE IS $230 TAR TOWN UNION, UH, FREE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT SHARE IS $10,264 REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES TOTAL $12,308.
YEAH, I'M STANDING RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING
[ AT 4 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Frank Morabito for property located at 29 Church Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $34±; the County’s share is $255±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $36±; the Tarrytown Union Free School District’s share is $1,622±. Refunds from all sources total $1,948±.]
TARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER FRANK MODO FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 29 CHURCH STREET.THE TOWN SHARE OF THE REFUND IS $34.
THE SAWMILL RIVER SEWER DISTRICT SHARE IS $36.
TARRYTOWN UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT SHARE IS $1,622 REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES TOTAL $1,948.
FOR WHAT YEARS IS THIS? UH, BRING UP THE RESOLUTION RIGHT.
VERY QUICKLY, I BELIEVE THROUGH A 2021 ASSESSMENT THERE.
SORRY, I THOUGHT IT WAS MULTIPLE YEARS FOUR.
AND THE FIRST YEAR UNDER REVIEW IS THE 2016 ASSESSMENT YEAR.
UM, SO, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY THE 16 THROUGH THE 2020 ASSESSMENT YEARS, WHICH IS THE 17 THROUGH THE 21 TAX YEARS.
[ AT 5 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Frank Morabito for property located at 12 Park Avenue. The Town’s share of the refund is $168±; the County’s share is $1,254±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $178±; the Tarrytown Union Free School District’s share is $7,991±. Refunds from all sources total $9,592±.]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED 85 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX TERTIARY SETTLEMENT, A PETITIONER FRANK MORABITO FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 12 PARK AVENUE.THE TOWN SHARE OF THE REFUND IS $168.
THE SAWMILL VALLEY SEWER DISTRICT SHARE IS $178.
TARRYTOWN UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT SHARE IS $7,901.
REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES TOTAL, UH, 9,000 5 92.
I BELIEVE THOSE ARE FOR THE SAME YEARS.
[ CL 1 - 11/09/2022 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for 7:30 PM, Monday, November 21, 2022, to consider Zoning Text amendments related to Cannabis]
SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SEVEN 30, UH, PM ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 21ST TO CONSIDER HIS ZONING TAX AMENDMENTS RELATED TO CANNABIS.UM, JOE, WOULD YOU WANNA MENTION WHAT, WHAT THEY ARE FOR THE PUBLIC? YES.
I'M NOT SURE IF COMMISSIONER DUANE IS, IS HERE.
I CAN GIVE A, A BRIEF OVERVIEW HERE.
UM, SO PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD WAS THE LOCAL LAW WITH REGARD TO CANNABIS, I'M, I'M SORRY.
LET'S, I FOLLOW PROPER PROCEDURE MO PAUL, WOULD YOU WANNA MAKE THE MOTION SOMEBODY SECOND IT AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION? WE MAKE THE MOTION SECOND.
SO JUST BRIEFLY RECAP, UM, BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD PREVIOUSLY WAS A LOCAL LAW WITH REGARD TO BOTH RECREATIONAL AND MEDICAL DISPEN CANNABIS DISPENSARIES.
AND WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT LOCAL LAW CONFINED THOSE TWO USES TO THE PD DISTRICT IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WAS CLOSED, UM, PREPARED SEEKER DOCUMENTATION AS WELL AS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THAT LOCAL LAW.
AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE TOWN BOARD HAD INTEREST IN POTENTIALLY, UM, A, A AMENDING THAT LOCAL LAW AND, AND, AND, AND OR AUGMENTING THAT LOCAL LAW, I SHOULD SAY, TO, TO INCLUDE, UM, MEDICAL RECREATIONAL, I'M SORRY, MEDICAL CANNABIS USES BEYOND JUST THE PD DISTRICT.
SO AREAS SUCH AS, UH, EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, CENTRAL AVENUE, UM, AND THOSE MIXED USE DISTRICTS ON ONE 19 AS EXAMPLES.
SO, UM, UPON THAT DIRECTIVE, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT, THAT THAT WAS A DIRECTIVE OF THE TOWN BOARD.
SO I PREPARED A LOCAL LAW THAT DID JUST THAT IT ADDED, UH, MEDICAL, UH, CANNABIS DISPENSARIES AS A SPECIAL PERMIT USE IN THOSE VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS BEYOND THE PD.
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UM, I, I I, I DON'T KNOW THAT MEDICAL DISPENSARIES, UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA USE THE TERM OBSOLETE, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A MARKET THERE WILL BE FOR THEM OR HOW MUCH NEW YORK STATE IS GONNA PRIORITIZE THAT USE CONSIDERING THAT ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH WITH RECREATIONAL CANNABIS, YOU KNOW, ONE, YOU KNOW, THOSE SEEM TO BE THE PRIORITY FOR LICENSES.SO, UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE TOWN BOARD WHETHER IT WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, REOPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND, AND, AND, AND HAVE THIS, THIS UPDATED LOCAL LAW, THE SUBJECT OF A HEARING ON THE 21ST, OR IF NOT, THEN ALTERNATIVELY YOU WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO APPROVE THE PRIOR LOCAL LAW, WHICH OF WHICH THAT THAT PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
WELL, DID, DID YOU MENTION THAT, UH, YOU SPOKE TO SOMEBODY AT THE STATE AND THEY'RE NOT LIKELY, LIKELY TO BE APPROVING MEDICAL LICENSES IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE? YEAH, I THINK THE TERMINOLOGY WAS THAT, UM, IT, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THAT MEDICAL CANNABIS, UM, LICENSES ARE, ARE, ARE GOING TO BE DISPERSED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
UM, UM, I THINK THAT'S AS DEFINITIVE AS, AS A RESPONSE THAT I RECEIVED.
ARE THEY BASICALLY RELYING ON THE FACT THAT IF YOU GET IT, IF YOU CAN GET IT WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION, WHY, WHY HAVE IT BY PRESCRIPTION? AND IF SO, ONLY BY PRESCRIPTION BECAUSE THE, THAT KIND OF A, UM, ESTABLISHMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE UNLESS THEY CAN SELL IT RECREATIONAL AS WELL? I THINK, I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.
AND IN MY RESEARCH, I BELIEVE OTHER STATES SUCH AS NEW JERSEY, UM, WHAT THEY'LL DO IS, IS THEY'LL, THEY'LL HAVE PRIORITY HOURS IN THE MORNING FOR, FOR MEDICAL LICENSES, UM, OR FOR THOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAD MEDICAL LICENSES, UM, MEDICAL CARDS I SHOULD SAY, SO THAT THEY HAVE LIKE A PRIORITIZED TWO HOUR WINDOW TO, UM, USE THOSE FACILITIES.
UM, BUT YEAH, I I JUST, LET ME ASK A QUESTION OF, OF, OF WOULDN'T, UH, LIKE THE LEVEL OF LICENSES THAT WILL BE DISPERSED SUCH THAT THE, THIS LOCAL LAW, UM, WOULD BE MEANINGFUL.
I HAD A A QUESTION BECAUSE I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE, UH, MEDICAL MARIJUANA AVAILABLE EASE QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, CONVENIENTLY MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR, FOR RIGHT.
ACCESSIBLE, UM, WOULDN'T LIKE SAY A PHARMACY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ALREADY ARE GIVING, UH, YOU KNOW, MEDICINES, SO WHY WOULDN'T THEY BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR, UM, UM, WOULDN'T THAT BE A DETERMINATION FROM THE STATE? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHY WOULD THE STATE SAY NO TO THEM, BECAUSE BASICALLY, BUT THAT MIGHT NOT BE, THAT MIGHT SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO DO NOT BE A DISPENSARY FOR NO MARIJUANA, LIKE C V SS OR DWAYNE REED OR RITE AID OR WHATEVER.
IF THEY WANT, THEN THEY WOULD TRYING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
I BELIEVE THERE MIGHT BE REQUIREMENTS AS TO GETTING IN THE BUILDING THAT'S SELLING THE MARIJUANA, WHICH DRUG STORES WOULD NOT WANT TO REGULATE THAT BECAUSE THEN THEY'D BE LOSING SALES ON OTHER PRODUCTS.
SO I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE FRUITFUL FOR A
UH, YOU KNOW, I I FEEL THIS IS SORT OF AN EVOLVING, YOU KNOW, IT'S EVOLVING AND IT'S GETTING MORE ACCEPTED.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO ANY OF THE, UM, PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES ABOUT WHETHER THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER OR, I'M, I'M, I I THINK THAT, THAT THEY MAY WANNA CHANGE THE LAW, THEY MAY WANNA CHANGE THE POLICIES.
WELL, WE'RE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IT BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING THEM TO IN THIS ONE INSTANCE, BUT IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS BE A, AN AREA OF RESEARCH.
BUT I THINK TO, TO JUST UNDERSTAND, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS WHERE WE CAN HONOR PRIOR COMMITMENTS TO LIMIT WHERE, WHERE CANNABIS IS SOLD, UM, BUT ARE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE EASE OF ACCESSIBILITY TO THOSE AREAS WHEN THEY HAVE, UM, A MEDICAL NECESSITY FOR THE USE OF, OF CANNABIS.
UM, SO YOU KNOW THIS, BUT, BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO GARRETT'S RESEARCH, IF THE STATE IS NOT WITH GOING TO ISSUE THOSE SPECIFIC LICENSES, UM, I'D LIKE TO CONFIRM FOR SURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE SO THAT OTHERWISE IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH KEEPING IT ON THE SCHEDULE.
IF IT'S A FOOLS ERR, THEN IT'S NOT ALRIGHT.
BUT THIS IS JUST TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION.
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LET'S HAVE A, A MORE DEFINITIVE ANSWER SO THAT WE CAN, WE'RE NOT SPINNING OUR WHEELS.AND ALSO, AGAIN, THIS IS SUCH AN EVOLVING, UM, AREA.
SO THE THING IS, WHAT THE STATE IS, WAS WILLING TO DO A YEAR AGO MAY NOT BE WHAT THE STATE'S WILLING TO DO, UM, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW OR, OR, OR NEXT YEAR.
AND I, I SORT OF FEEL, I I, I COULD WRITE TO THE, I THE DRUGSTORES AND I COULD WRITE TO THE STATE AND I, YOU KNOW, I'LL ASK THEM IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, I'LL SAY THIS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE, UM, CONSIDERING OPEN TO? YEAH.
AND THEN YOU CAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
YOU CAN PRESENT THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING FIRST WHEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF WE GET AN ANSWER.
WELL, IT'S ALSO THE CASE, IS IT NOT, JOE, THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE RESTRICTIVE REGULATIONS THAN THE STATE'S REGULATIONS, RIGHT? OR NOT THAT YES, YOU CAN.
AND AND BASED ON THE HEARING THAT YOU CLOSED PREVIOUSLY, YOU DID HAVE, WE DID RIGHT.
SO WE JUST, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S CRAFTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE STATE'S REGULATION, JUST BECAUSE THE STATE ISN'T ON THE EXACT SAME PAGE IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T CRAFT A REGULATION THAT WOULD BE SIMILARLY RESTRICTIVE THAT WOULD INCLUDE MM-HMM.
SO IT'S WORTH TALKING ABOUT AT LEAST, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.
WE'RE NOT, ULTIMATELY, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ISSUE THE LICENSE NO MATTER HOW STRICT IT IS, IT WOULD BE THE STATE.
BUT THE, BUT THE LAW UNDER WHICH THE LICENSE IS, IS, UH, BEING USED CAN BE MORE RESTRICTIVE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IF THE LAW ISSUES A, A SPECIFIC LICENSE THAT WE COULD FURTHER SET, I MEAN A LICENSE FOR ISSUES FOR FULL USE IF THE STATE ISSUES, UM, A LICENSE FOR THE, THE FULL SALE, WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL OR, OR, OR RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA.
BUT WE CAN HAVE A LAW THAT IN THESE, THESE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS OR AREAS, THEY CAN ONLY BE SOLD FOR MEDICAL USE WITH PRESCRIPTIONS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE UH, IT, IT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S SIMILARLY MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE STATE'S REGULATION.
WE'D HAVE TO WORK THOSE OUT WITH PEOPLE, BUT RIGHT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING, RIGHT? RIGHT.
I'M NOT SURE IF PEOPLE WOULD STILL BE RECEIVING MEDICAL MARIJUANA CARDS IN THE FUTURE IF THERE WERE NO LONGER MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
WELL, NOT THE TABLE CURRENTLY.
SO, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
SO, SO IN OTHER WORDS, MEDICAL, UM, PROFESSIONALS WOULDN'T BE ISSUING ANY KIND OF PRESCRIPTIONS.
AND ALSO YOU'D HAVE TO THINK OF THE VIABILITY OF THAT ESTABLISHMENT THAT THEY CAN ONLY SELL MARIJUANA BECAUSE MEDICAL PHARMACIES, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE COMING INTO THE STORE.
CAN THEY, CAN THEY ACTUALLY MAKE A PROFIT RIGHT.
WITHOUT MOUNTAIN DOING RECREATIONAL BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST GONNA GO RECREATIONAL AND NOT DEAL WITH ALL THE DEAL WITH THEM AND THEN THEY, SO THIS IS ALL WORTHY CONVERSATION.
THIS IS, WE PROBABLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE 21ST.
SO IS SOMEBODY MOVING THIS I AND SECOND.
[ CD 1 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing a Professional Service Agreement with Creighton Manning, for Surveying and Engineering Design Services for a Federal-Aid Project known as the Dobbs Ferry Road Sidewalk Project]
AUTHORIZING PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH CREIGHTON MANNING FOR SURVEYING AND ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR FEDERAL AID PROJECT KNOWN AS DOBBS FERRY ROAD SIDEWALK PROJECT.[ CD 2 - 11/09/2022 Resolution awarding the contract for the Hillside Avenue Sidewalk Project (PIN 8762.56) to Morano Brothers Corproation, the lowest bidder, for an amount not to exceed $1,452,481.68]
THE CONTRACT FOR THE HILLSIDE AVENUE SIDEWALK PROJECT, UH, TO MURANO BROTHERS CORPORATION, THE LOWEST BIDER FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 1,000,400, UM, 52,480 E $1 AND 68 CENTS.CORPORATION RESOLUTION ISSUING A DECK FOR THE DETERMINATION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WITH RESPECT TO WELL, WE'RE GONNA HOLD THAT OVER TOO.
ISN'T THAT, WOULDN'T IT? 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL RELATED TO FOUR, RIGHT? THAT'S THREE AND FOUR, YES.
IT'S HOLD OVER RESOLUTION ISSUING
[ CD 5 - 11/09/2022 Resolution issuing a Negative Declaration for the SEQRA determination of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh with respect to an Amended Site Plan and all related applications by Sunningdale Country Club located at 300 Underhill road (P.O. Scarsdale, NY) (TB 22-16)]
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SECRET DETERMINATION, UM, OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WITH RESPECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND ALL RELATED APPLICATIONS BY SUNNINGDALE COUNTRY CLUB LOCATED AT 300 UNDERHILL ROAD.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT, THAT AS AMENDED BECAUSE OF THE TYPO AS AMEND.
UH, RESOLUTION OF, WE DIDN'T GET A SECOND.
[ CD 6 - 11/09/2022 Resolution approving, with conditions, an Amended Site Plan and Tree Removal Permit application by Sunningdale Country Club, for property located at 300 Underhill Road (P.O. Scarsdale, NY) (TB 22-16)]
WITH CONDITIONS AND AMENDED SITE PLAN, TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATION BY SUNNINGDALE COUNTRY CLUB FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 300 UNDERHILL ROAD PO BOX PO.DO YOU WANT THAT AS AMENDED TO GARRETT? THERE AS AMENDED HERE AS YES, PLEASE.
[ CD 7 - 11/09/2022 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh approving a Site Lease Agreement of Town-owned land at the Town Highway Garage located at 0 Sprain Road (P.O. Hartsdale, NY), to Consolidated Edison Development, Inc., associated with the potential installation of a Tier 2 Battery Energy Storage System (BESS)]
OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG APPROVING A SITE LEASE AGREEMENT OF TOWN OWNED LAND AT THE TOWN HIGHWAY GARAGE.UM, UM, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE POTENTIAL INSTALLATION OF TIER TWO BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM.
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THAT'S GONNA BE AS AMENDED BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE STOPPING USING THE TERM HIGHWAY GARAGE AND USING TB D P W GARAGE AS AMENDED.OH, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[ CD 8 - 11/09/2022 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh approving a Site Lease Agreement of Town-owned land at the Greenburgh Library located at 300 Tarrytown Road (P.O. Greenburgh, NY), to Consolidated Edison Development, Inc., associated with the potential installation of a Tier 2 Battery Energy Storage System (BESS)]
OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG APPROVING A SITE LEASE AGREEMENT OF TOWN ON LAND AT THE GREENBURG LIBRARY LOCATED AT UM, 300 TERRA TOWN ROAD TO CONSOLIDATED EDISON DEVELOPMENT, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH POTENTIAL INSTALLATION OF A TIER TWO BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.UM, HOW MUCH IS, UM, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE RENT? YES.
SO FOR EACH SITE, UM, LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 17,000 AND 20,000 PER CABINET, EACH SITE COULD CONCEIVABLY HOST TWO CABINETS.
SO, UM, I THINK IN A BEST CASE SCENARIO, 80,000 ANNUALLY.
[ CR 1 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing the Department of Community Resources to purchase Replacement Bleachers for the Theodore D. Young Community Center Gymnasium from Anthem Sports, at a total cost not to exceed $15,500]
AUTHORIZING THE DEPARTMENT OF UH, COMMUNITY RESOURCES TO PURCHASE REPLACEMENT BLEACHERS FOR THE THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, FOR ANTHEM SPORTS AT A TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $15,500.SO WITH THE BATTERY STORAGE PAID FOR ITS, UM, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING
[ CO 1 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing Fiscal Year 2022 budget transfers]
FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET TRANSFERS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE.[ CO 2 - 11/09/2022 Resolution amending the 2022 Operating Budget of the Town Outside Villages Fund by Increasing Estimated Revenues for Records Management Grant and Increasing Appropriations for Requested Projects]
2022 OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE TOWN OUTSIDE VILLAGES FUND BY INCREASING ESTIMATED REVENUE FOR RECORDS MANAGEMENT GRANT AND INCREASING APPROPRIATIONS FOR REQUESTED PROJECTS.[ PR 1 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing the Town of Greenburgh Parks & Recreation Department permission to go out to Bid for Prepared Meals for the Greenburgh Nutrition Program]
AUTHORIZING TOWN OF GREENBURG PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT PERMISSION, UH, TO GO OUT TO BID FOR PREPARED MEALS FOR THE GREENBERG NUTRITION PROGRAM.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
RESOLUTION PROMOTING SERGEANT DID ALREADY DID THAT.
[ PO 2 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor, on behalf of the Police Department, to enter into a contract with the General Services Administration (“GSA”) for a Digital Audio Recording system for all police department audio recordings, including 911, radio transmission, and telephone, in a manner that constitutes competitive bidding]
AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR ON BEHALF OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION FOR A DIGITAL AUDIO, AUDIO RECORDING SYSTEM FOR ALL POLICE DEPARTMENT AUDIO RECORDINGS INCLUDING NINE 11 RADIO TRANSMISSION AND TELEPHONE IN A MANNER THAT CONSTITUTES COMPETITIVE BIDDING.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE.
[ PO 3 - 11/09/2022 Resolution authorizing the Police Department to go to bid for Replacement of Police Headquarters Camera System]
DEPARTMENT TO GO TO BID FOR REPLACEMENT OF POLICE HEADQUARTERS CAMERA SYSTEM.[ PW 1 - 11/09/2022 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh approving the appropriation of $4,569,012 of ARPA funds for Capital Projects-Water ]
OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION OF 4 MILLION 569 0 1 2 OF ARPA FUNDS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND WATER.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE VERY ADJOURN SECOND.