Nov 21, 2022 Town Board- Regular

TODAY, UH, WE, UH, PAY TRIBUTE TO, UH, SOMEBODY WHO, UH, WE KNOW IS AN OUTSTANDING, UH, A CITIZEN AND ROLE MODEL IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, THE COUNTY, UM, ALSO HAD RECOGNIZED HIM AND LLOYD COURT, UM, WAS RECENTLY HONORED, UH, BY THE GOVERNOR AS A GOVERNOR, AS A RECIPIENT OF THE GOVERNOR'S EXEMPLARY VOLUNTEER SERVICE AWARD.

UM, THIS IS FOR HOLD, MICROPHONES ON.

OH, IF YOU WANNA DO THE, DO IT AGAIN.

ROLL CALL.

COUNCILWOMAN ELLEN HENDRICKS.

WE'LL DO THE

[ ROLL CALL: Town Clerk]

PRESENT.

COUNCILMAN KEN JONES.

PRESENT COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON.

PRESENT.

COUNCILMAN FRANCIS JACKSON.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY.

FRANCIS SHEEN.

SO SORRY.

COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEN, UH, PRESENT.

I DIDN'T KNOW WE GOT MARRIED.

AND .

INTERIM TOWN ATTORNEY JOE DANKO.

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[ Honoring Lloyd Cort - Recipient of 2022 Governor's Exemplary Volunteer Service Award]

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, LLOYD COURT IS NO STRANGER, UH, TO THE TOWN.

HE'S A REMARKABLE, UM, CITIZEN ACTIVIST AND COMMUNITY LEADER.

UH, HE'S BEEN RECOGNIZED IN THE PAST BY WESTCHESTER, BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR HIS EXCEPTIONAL, UH, SERVICE.

HE'S BEEN RECOGNIZED BY, UH, THE COUNTY.

AND JUST RECENTLY, HE RECEIVED ONE OF THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS AWARDS ANY CITIZEN IN NEW YORK STATE COULD GET.

UM, THE GOVERNOR EX EXEMPLARY VOLUNTEER SERVICE AWARD, UM, UH, LLOYD COURT WAS NOMINATED BY THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF SENIOR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.

PAUL, PAUL.

PAUL, YOU'RE UNDERSELLING IT.

HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO IS SELECTED IN ALL OF NEW YORK STATE FOR THIS YEAR.

THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T GIVE OUT DOZENS OF THESE.

THEY GIVE OUT ONE RIGHT, LLOYD, AND THEY GIVE IT TO LLOYD FOR THIS YEAR.

LLOYD WAS NOMINATED BY THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF SENIOR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES FOR HIS DECADES OF SERVICE TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.

UH, THIS AWARD IS ANNOUNCED ANNUALLY ON OLDER NEW YORKERS DAY, WHICH IS NOVEMBER 4TH.

IT RECOGNIZES AN OLDER ADULT FOR EXCEPTIONAL VOLUNTEERISM SERVICE AND PROACTIVE DEDICATION TO THE CIVIC GOOD, AS WELL AS A SOCIAL HEALTH AND OVERALL WELLBEING OF INDIVIDUALS OF ALL AGES IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE PERSON RECEIVING THIS AWARD IS CHOSEN FOR THIS SPECIAL DISTINCTION FROM NUMEROUS NOMINATIONS BY LOCAL OFFICES FOR THE AGING, AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY.

UM, PARTNERS, LLOYD HAS BEEN A RESIDENT OF WESTCHESTER SINCE, UM, 1969, A RESIDENT OF GREENBERG SINCE 1973.

HE RAISED HIS TWO CHILDREN WITH HIS WIFE, GLENN, OF 48 YEARS.

HE SERVED ON VARIOUS COMMITTEES AND BOARDS, INCLUDING AS CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, WHICH HAS, UM, HELPED THE TOWN, UH, BUILD PLAYGROUNDS, UM, ENHANCE, UM, RECREATION PROGRAMS. THERE'S SO MANY FANTASTIC INITIATIVES THAT LLOYD HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE IN GETTING, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING, UH, FUND FUNDING FOR, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, LOWEST RUNS, UM, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN'S CENTER HELP THE GREENBERG HEALTH CENTER.

HE'S DONE IT ALL.

HE SERVED AS CHAIRMAN OF THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMISSION AND ALSO WAS A MEMBER OF THE GREENBURG BUDGET OVERSIGHT COMMISSION.

AND LLOYD CONTINUES TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, ASSISTING THE DISADVANTAGED AND UNDERSERVED BY IMPROVING ACCESS TO PROGRAMS, SERVICES, AND ACTIVITIES IN WESTCHESTER.

SO WITH LLOYD, UH, HE HIGHLIGHTS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF JOY IN GIVING, AND THE, THE GIFTS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM VOLUNTEERING ARE TRULY, UH, PRICELESS.

UH, HE'S IMPROVED THE LIVES OF MANY, MANY OTHERS, AND AS A RESULT OF HIS EFFORTS, GREENBERG IS A MUCH, MUCH BETTER, UM, YOU KNOW, PLACE.

SO WE COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT IF THE WORLD HAD, UM, IF WE COULD CLONE LLOYD COURT AND EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD WAS A LLOYD COURT, THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD.

UM, AND, UM, WE HAVE A VIDEO, WE HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

WE HAVE A VIDEO, PAUL.

UM, SO WE WANNA SHOW THE VIDEO YEP.

ALREADY WHERE OUR , I BELIEVE IT VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT OUR NEXT GENERATION GROWTH VALUE SERVICE, WHICH IS WHY OUR PROVIDERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THIS, AND TO REGARD IT AS AN INTRINSIC PIECE OF WHO THEY ARE.

YOU ARE IN FACT, MAKING THIS HAPPEN BY EXAMPLE THROUGH SERVICE TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE TO QUOTE NEW YORK'S BYLINE OUT OF MANY, WE ARE ONE.

THIS IS THE FOUNDING PREMISE AND ENDURING PROMISE THAT WE INHERITED FROM OUR PARENTS AND THE PROMISE OF NEW YORK THAT WE PASS ON TO OUR CHILDREN.

YOUR WORK MAKES NEW YORK STATE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, GROW UP, AND GROW OLD.

I'M SO PROUD TO OFFER THESE REMARKS, CELEBRATING OLDER NEW YORKERS, AND CONGRATULATE ALL OF YOU TODAY AND ALL OF YOU ACROSS THE STATE THAT GIVE UP YOUR TIME.

ALL OF US AT THE NEW YORK STATE OFFICE FOR THE AGING AND COUNTY OFFICES AROUND THE STATE, THANK YOU AND CONVEY REALLY HOW

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PROUD WE ARE OF ALL OF YOU.

AND THE WONDERFUL EXAMPLE THAT YOU SET FOR ALL OF US.

I AM NOW SO PROUD TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHT MR. LLOYD COURT FROM WESTCHESTER COUNTY, WHO IS SELECTED TO RECEIVE GOVERNOR OL'S 2022 EXEMPLARY VOLUNTEER SERVICE AWARD FOR HIS 45 PLUS YEARS VOLUNTEER.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CALL MR. COURT PERSONALLY TO DELIVER THIS GREAT NEWS.

HELLO? HI, IS THIS MR. LLOYD COURT? YES, SPEAKING.

HOW ARE YOU? UH, MY NAME IS GREG OLSSON.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE NEW YORK STATE OFFICE FOR AGING.

I LEFT YOU A MESSAGE YESTERDAY.

IT'S SO NICE TO, UH, TO, TO REACH YOU THIS MORNING.

UM, MR. COURT, THE REASON THAT I'M CALLING IS YOU HAD BEEN, UM, NOMINATED BY WESTCHESTER TO, UH, BE A PART OF OUR OLDER NEW YORKERS DAY FOR YOUR EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND I, I, FIRST AND FOREMOST, JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON, ON THAT, UH, BEING HONORED FOR THAT.

UH, BUT I HAVE SOME NEWS FOR YOU IF YOU'RE READY FOR IT.

IT'S BAD, GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT.

OH, IT'S GONNA BE GOOD NEWS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MAY NOT KNOW IS WE LOOK THROUGH OVER A HUNDRED, UM, NOMINATIONS FROM ACROSS THE STATE, AND WE SELECT ONE PERSON TO GET THE GOVERNOR'S, UM, EXEMPLARY VOLUNTEER SERVICE AWARD.

AND I GOTTA BE HONEST WITH YOU, MR. COURT, I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH YOUR RESUME, YOUR 45 YEARS OF SERVICE TO NINE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE EIGHT SPECTRUM THAT WE HAVE SELECTED YOU TO RECEIVE, UH, THE ONE AND ONLY GOVERNOR'S EXEMPLARY SERVICE AWARD.

SO, I JUST WANTED TO CALL PERSONALLY AND JUST SAY, UH, REALLY HOW IMPRESSED WE ARE WITH, UH, WITH YOU AND YOUR SERVICE TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

UM, REALLY ALMOST 50 YEARS IS REALLY INCREDIBLE.

AND I WANTED TO CALL YOU PERSONALLY JUST TO, JUST TO THANK YOU, UM, NOT ONLY FOR BEING NOMINATED, BUT TO, TO, UH, GIVE YOU THE NEWS ON THIS AWARD.

UM, MY GOD, IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY AMAZING AND YOU ARE SO DESERVING.

I I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU SO KINDLY.

YOU ARE EXCITED AS A MAN.

I WILL, I WILL ADMIT TO YOU.

TEARS COME TO MY EYES.

, YOU KNOW WHAT? AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I READ STORIES LIKE YOURS AND I KNOW THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T DO THIS FOR THE AWARD.

YOU DO IT BECAUSE YOU CARE.

YOUR RESUME SHOWS THAT.

AND SO, UM, A MEMBER OF MY STAFF NAMED ALEX HYATT IS GONNA GIVE YOU A CALL.

WE WANT TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOU, MAYBE DO AN INTERVIEW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT SERVICE MEANS TO YOU AND WHAT'S DRIVEN YOU TO, UH, TO REALLY DO WHAT YOU DO.

IT'S, IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE.

I ACCEPT THIS AWARD IN MEMORY OF MANY REMARKABLE SENIORS WHO INFLUENCED AND HELPED SHAPE THE SENIOR I AM TODAY.

MY PARENTS AND THE MANY NEIGHBORS IN MY BELOVED PARK GARDENS COMMUNITY AND THE TONGUE OF GREENBURG.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR ILLUSTRIOUS NEW YORK STATE GOVERNOR KATHY HO, MR. GREGORY OLSEN, DIRECTOR OF NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF THE AGING.

IT IS TRULY HUMBLING.

INDEED, IT REQUIRES GREAT EFFORT TO GAIN MY COMPOSURE.

AT THIS TIME.

MY COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES WERE MODELED BY MY PARENTS AND OTHER ELDERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COMMUNITY GEORGETOWN IN SOUTH AMERICA.

IN REFERENCE TO THEM, I MADE A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO MODEL THOSE BEHAVIORS FOR MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.

I ALSO OWE GRATITUDE TO MY BELOVED COMMUNITY, PARKWAY GARDENS AND THE TONGUE FOR ENCOURAGING AND SUPPORTING MY VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES, ESPECIALLY FOR SENIORS.

PERSONALLY, I WAS FACED WITH SEVERAL CHALLENGES ON MY WAY TO BECOMING A SENIOR.

EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN STRENGTH AND MODELS MADE IN THE PERSON I AM TODAY.

WHATEVER KINDNESS OR THOUGHTFUL DE I DO OR

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I'VE DONE IS PALE IN COMPARISON TO THE GOODNESS, GENEROSITY, FRIENDSHIP, AND BLESSINGS I HAVE RECEIVED.

I THUS THAT MY EXAMPLE, PARTICULARLY MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE YOUTH, WILL TOUCH THE FUTURE IN THE SAME WAY THOSE SENIORS NOW DECEASED WILL TOUCH MY TODAY, MY PRESENT, THE STATE AND ALSO THE COUNTY HAVE MANY AVENUES FOR VOLUNTEERISM.

AND THAT'S THE FIRST PLACE YOU CAN SIT.

IT COULD BE YOUR NEIGHBOR, NEIGHBORHOOD, CIVIC ASSOCIATION, OR ANY OTHER MEANS IN THAT CATEGORY.

AS A VOLUNTEER, I LOOKED AT AROUND ME, AND I SEE THOSE PEOPLE THAT DESPERATELY IN NEED.

I LOOK AT THOSE THAT ARE HUNGRY.

I LOOK AT THOSE THAT NEED TO BE TRANSPORTED BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE MONIES TO GET A TAXI OR TRANSPORTATION.

SO I LOOK INTO THOSE THINGS AND I FEEL I AM REALLY HELPING THOSE THAT ARE NEED, EVEN IF THERE'S ONE PERSON, THAT PERSON THANK YOU IS ENOUGH TO FILL ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

TO BE A GOOD VOLUNTEER, YOU HAVE TO BE ENTHUSIASTIC IN WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND WHAT YOU CAN TRANSMIT TO OTHERS.

I HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR OVER 50 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH TWO BEAUTIFUL, UH, DEAR ME PERSONALLY.

FOUR GRANDKIDS.

THREE OF THEM ARE GIRLS, AND ONE IS A BOY.

HELLO, THIS IS FAITH SENATE MAJORITY LEADER ANDREA STEWART COUSINS.

I'M HAPPY TO CELEBRATE OLDER NEW YORKERS DAY WITH ALL OF YOU TODAY.

WE HONOR OLDER NEW YORKERS FROM EACH COUNTY, FROM EACH COUNTY IN THE STATE FOR THEIR SERVICE TO THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND THE EXTRAORDINARY VALUE THEY BRING TO THE LIVES OF THOSE AROUND THEM.

I'M PROUD THAT ONE OF THESE OLDER NEW YORKERS, LLOYD COURT, WHO LIVES IN MY DISTRICT, HAS BEEN SELECTED AS THE OLDER ADULT OF THE YEAR.

LLOYD HAS VOLUNTEERED FOR NUMEROUS TOWN OF GREENBURG COMMITTEES AND LOCAL NONPROFITS.

HIS ACTIVISM AND ENERGY ARE INSPIRING TO US ALL.

AS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY CHAIR OF THE TOWN, HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN SECURING BLOCK GRANTS AND OTHER FUNDINGS TO SUPPORT MANY IMPORTANT.

LLOYD HAS PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE PRESERVATION OF OPEN SPACES AND ADVOCATING FOR PARKS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

HE SUPPORTED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S SUMMER YOUTH CAMP, WORKED FOR THE TOWN'S HOUSING AUTHORITY TO EXPAND BROADBAND ACCESS, AND HE SECURED A 28 SEAT BUS TO TRANSPORT THE TOWN SENIORS.

THROUGH HIS INVOLVEMENT WITH THE GREENBURG CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT, LLOYD HAS WORKED TO REACH ALL OF THE CHILDREN AND GIVE THEM THE BEST POSSIBLE EDUCATION.

TODAY, LLOYD CONTINUES TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE BY IMPROVING ACCESS TO PROGRAMS, SERVICES, AND ACTIVITIES FOR ALL.

THANK YOU LLOYD COURT FOR IMPROVING THE LIVES OF OTHERS AND CREATING A BETTER FUTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

SINCERE CONGRATULATIONS.

I WANT TO THANK MR. COURT FOR HIS INCREDIBLE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ARE MAKING HIS COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN, MR. COURT ON RECEIVING THE 2022 GOVERNOR'S EXEMPLARY VOLUNTEER SERVICE AWARD.

THAT'S IT, JOE.

VERY WELL DONE.

THE ASSOCIATION.

LLOYD, YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? TOP THAT AS LLOYD IS COMING TO THE PODIUM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT BEHIND EVERY GREAT

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MAN IS AN AMAZING WOMAN.

HIS WIFE GWEN COURT IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.

AND ALSO THERE'S ANOTHER, THERE'S ANOTHER WOMAN WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE, AND THAT'S WINSOME GORDON, BECAUSE SHE MADE ME AWARE OF THIS VIDEO.

AND THE REASON I WAS LATE IS I WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN QUEUE IT UP AND I FRANKLY, HAVE BETTER EQUIPMENT TO DO IT AT HOME THAN HERE.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK IT SAYS WHAT IT NEEDS TO SAY, RIGHT? BUT IT WAS WINSOME GORDON WHO ACTUALLY, UM, TIPPED US OFF THAT THERE WAS A VIDEO ABOUT THIS AWARD.

THE ONLY ONE IN NEW YORK STATE.

WELL, SUBJECT FLAWLESS.

JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.

I JUST PULL, TALK, MOVE THE MICROPHONE SO IT'S GOING DIRECTLY AT YOU.

TERRIFIC.

THE MOST I CAN SAY AT THIS TIME IS GOOD EVENING AGAIN, SUPERVISOR FINER MEMBERS OF THE TUNG BOARD, MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS, AND VILLAGERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WARM CONGRATULATIONS.

IT IS SAID THAT IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO REAR A CHILD, TO WHICH I WOULD DEFINITELY ADD THAT IT TAKES A VILLAGE, IN MY CASE OF THE TONGUE OF GREENBURG, THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER, AND THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

SENIORS LIKE ME, THEY AGE THE WAY WE DO.

UM, MY WIFE AND TWO GRANDKIDS, AND MY DAUGHTER AND HER HUSBAND RENEE, AND VIRGIL IS HERE.

MY OTHER TWO GRANDKIDS, UH, TAYLOR AND TAYLOR.

TAYLOR AND TYLER ARE IN MARYLAND.

AND I WILL THINK THAT THEY'RE VIEWING THEIR GRANDFATHER AT THIS TIME, LIKE THE ELDERS WHO INFLUENCE MY VOLUNTEERISM.

MY HOPE IS THAT I WILL SERVE AS A ROLE MODEL FOR MY CHILDREN, GRANDKIDS, AND IN FACT, ALL CHILDREN.

THANKS SAILOR AND MINA FOR DESIGNING A BUMPER STICKER IN HONOR OF ME AND ALL THE NEW YORKERS WHO CHOOSE THE AGE THEIR WAY.

UM, I THINK I HAVE, HERE'S A STICK.

OH, THAT'S GREAT.

INDEED.

I AM VERY HUMBLE BY THE RECOGNITION AND ALL, MANY EXPRESSION OF THANKS I CONTINUE TO RECEIVE FROM THE INDIVIDUALS FOR MY SIMPLE ACT OF KINDNESS.

INDEED, MY GESTURE PALES IN COMPARISON TO THE RICHNESS THAT LIFE HAS AFFORDED ME AND MY FAMILY.

I WILL CONCLUDE BY OFFERING MY SINCERE THANKS AND GRATITUDE TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SO INCREDIBLE SUPPORTIVE OF MY EFFORTS IN ENSURING THAT GREENBERG REMAINS THE BEST TOWN TO MATURE AND GROW IN DIGNITY AND GRACE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OF GREENBURG, WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, ALSO IS RECEIVING TOP HONORS.

WE ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE FORTUNATE THAT, UM, UH, THE COUNTY IS ALSO RECOGNIZING, UM, UH, SARAH GRACIE WHITE, UM, AS, UH, THEIR RECIPIENT, NOT AT THE STATE LEVEL, BUT AT THE, UH, COUNTY LEVEL.

UH, TOP HONORS.

UH, SHE'S BEEN THE DIRECTOR OF OUR GREENBERG, UM, UH, ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE FOR OVER, UH, 30 YEARS.

AND THEY'RE GONNA BE HONORING HER, UM, UH, THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER.

AND FRANK WILLIAMS, WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF, UH, THE WHITE PLAINS YOUTH BUREAU RESIDENT

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SO THE TOWN BOARD WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING, UM, THEM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WELL, AND THE OTHER RECIPIENTS OF, UM, THE, UH, WESTCHESTER COUNTY SENIOR AWARDS WILL DO THAT AT OUR DECEMBER TOWN BOARD BOARD MEETING.

BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU LLOYD, AND THANK ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE.

UM, MADELINE O'SHEA WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT CAROL WALKER.

IS SHE, IS SHE ON? NOT YET.

SHE WAS, SHE HAD EMAILED ME EARLIER.

UH, TODAY SHE WAS SENT THE EMAIL, BUT SHE'S NOT ON.

HEARING IS ON, UM, THE, UH, THE PROPOSED, UM, UH, BUDGET FOR THE TOWN, THE READY, GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

UM, OKAY.

SO NEXT, UM, ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UM, THE FIRST

[ To consider the 2023 Preliminary Budget. https://www.greenburghny.com/DocumentCenter/View/9811/2023-Tentative-Budget?bidId=]

I PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT PRELIMINARY BUDGET FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THE BUDGET IS A BALANCING ACT BETWEEN IMPROVING TOWN SERVICES WHILE AT THE SAME TIME KEEPING WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF OUR RESOURCES.

AGAIN, FOR THE MOST PART OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS AN AS IS BUDGET 2023.

BUDGET INCLUDES 3.3 MILLION IN TOWN AND TIRE, AND 8.3 MILLION IN TOWN OUTSIDE USE OF FUND BALANCE, AND STILL REMAINS WITHIN THE FUND BALANCE POLICY ESTABLISHED BY THE TOWN.

THE BUDGET AIMS TO MEET THE GROWING DEMANDS ON TOWN SERVICES.

THE TAX LEVY IN BOTH THE TOWN AND TIRE AND TOWN OUTSIDE REMAINS THE SAME AS 2022.

THE BUDGET CALLS FOR A 6.7% TAX DECREASE IN TOWN AND TIRE WITH TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS OF 21.8 MILLION AND A 6.64% TAX DECREASE IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG WITH TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS OF 91.1 MILLION BASED ON THE SEPTEMBER 22 TAX ROLL ASSESSED VALUES TRANSLATING INTO DOLLARS AND CENTS A HOME WITH AN ASSESSED VALUE OF 500,000 IN TOWN AND TIRE WOULD PAY $211 AND 3 CENTS IN 2023 VERSUS $226 AND 17 CENTS IN 2022.

AND THE TOWN OUTSIDE WOULD PAY 2007 36 AND 23 CENTS IN 2023 VERSUS $2,930 AND 97 CENTS IN 2022.

SINCE INCEPTION, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG HAS REMAINED UNDER THE NEW YORK STATE TAX CAP.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK PAUL FINER AND THE TOWN BOARD FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO PRUDENT FISCAL MANAGEMENT AND HARD WORK BUDGET PREPARATION IS A TEAM EFFORT.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO SUBMIT BUDGET REQUESTS AND DEVELOP AND TO DEVELOP ALTERNATE WAYS TO MEET THE TOWN'S PRIORITIES.

AND I JUST WANNA, UH, JUST CLARIFY, UM, UM, IT'S A 6% TAX RATE, DECREASE REDUCTION RATHER THAN THE 6%.

SOMEBODY SAID THAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO SAY TAX RATE.

ISN'T THAT, I THOUGHT I SAID THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.

SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS OTHERWISE WE CAN MOVE ON TO, WE DO, WE DO HAVE REQUESTS TO SPEAK HOW SAMIS FOR THESE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, AS WELL AS PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'D ASK EVERYONE, PLEASE STICK TO THE FIVE MINUTE RULE.

REMINISCENT OF NEW YORK CITY IN THE 1970S WHEN GERALD FORD HAD AN INTERESTING COMMENT IN THE NEW YORK POST ABOUT ITS FUTURE THAT WE ARE USING FUND BALANCE TO REDUCE TAXES.

IS THERE ANY INDICATION WHETHER THERE'LL BE A SECOND ROUND TONIGHT? I, I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

OF COURSE.

I'LL SAY THERE SHOULD BE ONE ROUND TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA, UH, CONTINUE THE HEARING.

SO THERE'LL BE JUST ONE ROUND TODAY.

OF COURSE, THAT TENDS TO LIMIT THE PUBLIC'S COMMENT AND KEEPS THEM COMING BACK FOR MORE.

BUT THIS IS HOW THE TOWN BOARD IS OPERATING HARD TO ATTACK A BUDGET BUDGET, WHICH MEANS THE TAXPAYERS WILL PAY LESS.

BUT THIS BUDGET IS VERY

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THE QUESTION IS, AT WHAT LEVEL DO WE HAVE TO STOP USING THE FUND BALANCE? MR. FINER AND HIS DEPARTMENT IS ADDING A NEW EMPLOYEE, $150,000 TO START WITH REPORTING ONLY TO HIM.

HE'S USING A NEW YORK STATE TITLE THAT ALLOWS HIM TO DO THIS HIRING, BUT WE HAVE NO EXPLANATION OF WHAT PURPOSE IS BEING SERVED BY THIS PERSON.

DON'T YOU THINK YOU OWE THE PUBLIC AN EXPLANATION WHAT THIS PERSON IS SUPPOSED TO DO? THIS IS THE CAPITAL BUDGET, WHICH THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED IN JANUARY, A LITTLE OVER $19 MILLION.

HAS ANY OF IT BEEN BONDED YET? TAKE THAT AS A QUESTION.

IN FACT, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HAD AND I'VE SENT TO MR. FINER AS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF THE TOWN AND ROBERTA ROMANO, THE COMPTROLLER ON NOVEMBER 2ND.

I REPEAT IT AGAIN ON NOVEMBER 15TH AND AGAIN ON NOVEMBER 21ST.

NONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED HERE.

WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET.

WHAT PURPOSE DOES A PUBLIC HEARING SERVE? IF THE PUBLIC HAS QUESTIONS, IF THE PUBLIC IS SEEKING INFORMATION UPON WHICH TO MAKE COMMENTS AND IT'S NOT FORTHCOMING FROM THE TOWN IN ADVANCE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEN ISN'T THAT SUBVERTING THE CONCEPT OF WHY WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE FIRST PLACE? NOW, I'VE SENT THIS TO THE TWO PEOPLE I'VE MENTIONED, AND I'VE SENT A COPY TO THE TOWN BOARD.

SO LET ME READ THE QUESTIONS THAT WEREN'T ANSWERED, AND MAYBE I'LL GET THE ANSWER WHEN I'M FINISHED WITH MY FIVE MINUTES.

HAS THE CAPITAL 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET APPROXIMATELY 19 MILLION BEEN BONDED YET? AND IF SO, WHAT RATING HAS BEEN RECEIVED? OF COURSE, INTEREST RATES HAVE RISEN SINCE JANUARY, AND IF WE HAVEN'T BONDED IT, WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE AN EXPLANATION OF WHY NOT HAS REGENERON PAID ANY OF THE 2002 23 BUILDING PERMIT FEES IN 2022? BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUMMARY, YOU SEE A VERY PRI PRECISE NUMBER FOR PROJECTED NUMBERS, HOW THOSE NUMBERS ACTUALLY TURN OUT TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, SIX MONTHS INTO THE YEAR, ROBERTA DOES PROVIDE A LIST OF THOSE AREAS OF EXP EXPENSE OF REVENUE, WHICH ARE BELOW 50% AGAINST THE YEAR.

BUILDING.

PERMIT FEES WAS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS WHICH WAS BELOW.

NEVERTHELESS, AS WE SEE HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE EVERY DOLLAR WE PROJECTED IS COMING IN, HOW MUCH IN DOLLARS AND IN WHICH FUND BALANCE MUST REMAIN LIQUIDS.

SO IF THE TOWN CAN ADVANCE SCHOOLS, SEWER, FIRE, AND OTHER DISTRICT TAXES, IF THEY'RE NOT PAID BY PROPERTY OWNERS, HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GONNA USE THE $12 MILLION BUDGETED YET UNUSED FOR THE COURT? AND AGAIN, REPURPOSED AS REVENUE THIS TIME FOR 2023? THE OUTSIDE ORDERS ALLOWED YOU TO GET AWAY WITH THIS ONCE IN 2021.

SO I GUESS IF IT GOT AWAY WITH IT ONCE, WE CAN GET AWAY WITH IT TWICE.

NO REAL INCOME, WE JUST DIDN'T SPEND IT.

IS ANY OF THE 19, WELL, THE CAPITAL BUDGET IN THE TOWN SUPERVISORS, THIS LINE ITEM, WHICH I RAISED, WHAT IS THAT PERSON DOING WHEN WE, THERE'LL BE QUESTIONS.

UH, WELL, GREENBURG LIBRARY, WE ARE REDUCING THEIR MONEY.

AND HERE WE HAVE A TOWN WITH A LIBRARY WHICH CLOSES AT FIVE O'CLOCK, THREE WEEKDAY NIGHTS, WELL BELOW WHAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD LIBRARIES DO.

TIME HAS RUN OUT.

BUT OF COURSE, I'LL EXPECT THESE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED BECAUSE YOU WANNA RESPOND IN A PUBLIC HEARING, DON'T YOU? WHY DON'T WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY AND THEN WE COULD RESPOND AFTER PEOPLE.

OH, WE'LL, FORGET THE QUESTIONS BY THEN.

SO WE HAVE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THE BUDGET.

ISSUE OF, UH, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.

UH, ACCORDING TO MY LIST, LEMME JUST, UH, RESPOND, UH, TO THE

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WHAT I, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY I'M PROPOSING THAT.

UM, NEW YORK, UH, STATE AUTHORIZES THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO APPOINT, UM, A SUPERVISOR AN AN ASSISTANT.

I HAVE ONE KRISTEN MATSON AND A FINANCE DIRECTOR.

IT'S A TITLE IN NEW YORK STATE LAW.

AND THAT PERSON REPORTS TO THE TOWN.

UM, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPERVISOR.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT IF THAT POSITION IS FUNDED OF, WHICH IS THE PREROGATIVE OF THE BOARD TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO FUND IT OR NOT, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO RUN A MORE EFFICIENT, UM, YOU KNOW, OPERATION AND DO A BETTER JOB OF OVERSEEING, UH, EFFICIENT TOWN GOVERNMENT.

WE, UM, THIS IS THE FOURTH CONSECUTIVE YEAR THAT WE HAVE NOT INCREASED THE TAX RATES.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE THAT AT A TIME WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH INFLATION, UM, THAT THE COST OF THE COST TO THE TYPICAL TAXPAYER WILL BE GOING DOWN.

UH, NOT, NOT UP.

I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WE ALSO HAD A VERY SLIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, TAX, UH, DECREASE.

AND TWO YEARS BEFORE THAT WE HAD NO TAX INCREASE.

I WANT TO USE THE PERSON, UM, TO WORK WITH TOWN OFFICIALS ON MAJOR PROJECTS AND GRANTS, UH, LIKE, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WILL BE HIRED TO ANALYZE AND ASSIST WITH, UM, LABOR NEGOTIATIONS, UM, TO ASSIST, UM, IN COMING UP WITH, UM, UM, AN AFFORDABLE PLAN FOR THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COURT FACILITIES.

UH, LIKE TO, UM, O HAVE MORE OVERSIGHT OF THE DISPOSITION OF, UM, TAX LIENS.

UM, WE HAVE, UM, TAX LIEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK OVER ABOUT $18 MILLION IN, UM, ARREAR IN TAX ARREARS.

YOU KNOW, THE TOWN ALWAYS IS GONNA GET IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LIEN ON PEOPLE'S HOMES.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO COLLECT THE ARREARS, UM, MORE, MORE QUICKLY, UM, UM, FOLLOW UP ON UNPAID PROPERTY TAXES AND ALSO ASSIST IN HUMAN RESOURCES.

I ALSO, UM, BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON, UM, SHOULD BE WORKING WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS IN A FINANCIAL SUPPORT CAPACITY TO ASSIST IN CAPITAL AND ANNUAL BUDGET DEVELOPMENT AND ONGOING COST CONTROLS.

ONE OF, UM, THE ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, I SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD FOUR YEARS OF TAX FLAT TAXES OR FLAT, YOU KNOW, OR REDUCTIONS AS YOU HAVE NOW.

SO I WANNA HAVE A BETTER HANDLE, AND I WANT THE TOWN BOARD TO HAVE A BETTER HANDLE AS TO OUR EXPENDITURES ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

THE REVENUES WE'RE TAKING IN ON A, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE, UM, THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S GREAT TO OVERESTIMATE, UM, OR UNDERESTIMATE, UH, YOU KNOW, BUDGET, REVENUES AND EXPENSES.

AND I THINK THAT, UH, IF WE DEVOTED MORE TIME TO ACTUALLY, UM, FIGURING OUT EXACTLY WHERE WE STAND AT ANY GIVEN TIME, I THINK THAT WILL ENABLE US TO, UM, RUN THE TOWN.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, BETTER BECAUSE ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR AND THE PAST FOUR YEARS, UM, WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY, UM, WITH OUR REVENUES AND OUR EXPENSES, WE COULD, IT COULD GO THE OTHER WAY.

UM, IF YOU DON'T CONSTANTLY MONITOR THE SPENDING AND IF DEPARTMENT HEADS AREN'T TOLD, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OVER BUDGET ON OVERTIME, YOU'RE UNDER, YOU'RE OVER BUDGET ON EXPEN EXPENDITURES.

PEOPLE COULD BE SPENDING AND SPENDING AND, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A CRISIS SOMETIME, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, IS HAVE AT, AT MINIMUM OF QUARTERLY, UH, REPORTS.

FINALLY, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I FEEL SO STRONGLY ABOUT THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW, UM, THERE'S RESIDENTS OF EDGEMONT WHO HAVE BEEN FILE, WHO ARE PREPARING TO FILE, UM, ANOTHER INCORPORATION PETITION.

UM, AND IF EDGEMONT INCORPORATES, UH, IF THE PETITION IS FOUND VALID, AND THEY HAVE LAWYERS AND THEY CLAIM THAT THE PETITION IS GOING TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW.

SO IF I RULE, UM, AFTER REVIEWING THE PETITION THAT THERE'LL BE A REFERENDUM, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF WORK.

UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN DEFINITELY WILL LOSE REVENUE, UM, UH, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEY, UM, THEY BREAK AWAY.

UM, AND LONG

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TERM THERE COULD BE, UM, REVENUE, UH, SIGNIFICANT REVENUE LOSSES, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE TOWN.

UM, WE'RE GONNA NEED HELP DURING THE TRANSITION HELP PERIOD SINCE THERE'D BE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO RESIDENTS OF UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG.

AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENTS OF UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG, UM, ARE GETTING BASE THE REVENUE THAT THAT WE NEED.

THERE'S, UH, LIABILITIES.

UM, THERE ARE A LOT, THERE'S GONNA BE, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE DURING A TRANSITION AND WE'RE GONNA NEED, YOU KNOW, NEED THE HELP.

UM, IF, IF THAT, IF THAT HAPPENS, IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEN YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE REALLY IN, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN'S NOT GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PROBLEM.

BUT AGAIN, THERE, I ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'S A, A, AT LEAST A 50 50 CHANCE THAT THERE COULD BE A REFERENDUM ON THE EDGE MINE CORPORATION, UM, SOMETIME EARLY NEXT YEAR.

UM, IF THE PETITION IS, IS VALID, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET? EDWARDA, YOU WANT TO, WHAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS GOING THROUGH AND TRYING TO CLEAN UP A LOT OF OLDER, UM, CAPITAL ACCOUNTS THAT EITHER WERE POSTPONED FOR WHATEVER REASON OR HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, AND THERE WERE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

SO WE'RE, WE HAVE CASH IN THE BANK THAT WE'RE USING, AND WE DON'T WANNA BOND IF WE DON'T NEED TO BOND.

SO PRETTY MUCH WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP OLD CAPITAL PROJECTS.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T GONE TO BOND YET.

AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE, UM, UH, TO SEE THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, UH, DO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, NEXT YEAR, UM, IS, UH, WORK WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, UM, AND HAVE, UH, A WORK PLAN.

BECAUSE IF A DEPARTMENT HEAD COMES UP WITH A CAPITAL BUDGET AND THEN NOT BASICALLY SPENDING THE MONEY THAT THEY REQUESTED, THERE'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WRONG.

SO I LIKE TO HAVE A WORK PLAN, FIND OUT WHO, UM, IN THE DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY COME UP WITH THEIR, UH, MAJOR CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST, WHO, UM, UM, THEY'RE DESIGNATING TO LEAD THE, THE PROJECT, UH, UH, ANTICIPATED TIMETABLE.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, LANDMARKS BASICALLY TIME PERIOD WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING THIS THAT WORK.

YOU KNOW, , WELL, SOMETIMES THERE'S UNANTICIPATED DELAYS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING, RIGHT? AND IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, AND I'D LIKE THE BOARD TO ANALYZE DURING OUR BUDGET REVIEWS WHY, UM, CAPITAL BUDGET REQUESTS IN THE PAST HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM.

AND WE HAVE TO LEARN FROM, UM, , YOU KNOW, FROM OUR MISTAKES.

BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CLEANING IT UP AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

BUT YOU APPROVED $19,750,000.

WELL, I, I, I'M SORRY, BUT MR. SAMS, YOU HAD YOUR FIVE MINUTES.

IF, IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, THEY COULD, THEY COULD SIGN UP.

MR. SUPERVISOR, ARE YOU REQUIRING THAT, THAT THIS PER PERSON THAT YOU HIRE BE A C P A, LIKE OUR CONTROLLER? I BASICALLY WILL BE DOING, UM, A REQUEST FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, UH, I HAVE NO IDEA WHO WE ARE GONNA BE, UM, APPOINTING.

UM, I'M GONNA DO, UH, IF THE BOARD AUTHORIZES, YOU KNOW, I'LL ADVERTISE FOR THE POSITION.

UH, WE'LL LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE RESUMES AND WE'LL GET SOMEBODY WHO HAS SIGNIFICANT BUDGET, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE FOR, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE POSITION.

YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS, UM, TO CONTINUE THE, UM, OUR, OUR SUCCESSES IN MAINTAINING A TRIPLE BOND, UH, A BOND RATING, WHICH, UH, COMMUNITIES, MOST COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE.

UH, THE OTHER GOAL IS, UM, TO CONTINUE OUR RECENT PRACTICE OF NOT INCREASING TAXES, UH, OR IF WE COULD HAVE MORE TAX CUTS IN THE FUTURE, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND, UM, TO RUN THE MOST EFFICIENT OPERATION IN THAT, THAT, THAT'S POSSIBLE.

BEFORE, IF I MAY, BEFORE CONSIDERATION, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CLEAR DELINEATION OF WHAT OUR CONTROLLER'S RESPONSIBILITIES WILL BE AND THE FINANCIAL DIRECTOR'S RESPONSIBILITIES WILL BE.

AND BECAUSE I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL AS A CONTROLLER AND I, I, AND YOU, YOU AS THE

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ADMINISTRATOR.

SO THIS IS AN EXTRA LAYER THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CLARIFIED FOR ME TO EVEN CONSIDER GOING FORWARD WITH IT.

AND THE DEPUTY CONTROLLER, THE DEPUTY CONTROLLER CONTROLLER, DEPUTY DEPUTY CONTROLLER, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OTHER TOWNS IN NEW YORK STATE HAVE A CONTROLLER, C P A, A DEPUTY CONTROLLER AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.

I WOULD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, 500, $400,000 OR $450,000 DEALING WITH THAT.

AND WE HAVE AN ACCOUNTANT, UM, UH, I JUST NEED TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION, JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN HENDRICKS.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE DELINEATION IS, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, BECAUSE APPARENTLY THIS PERSON HAS TO BE VERY GOOD IN REAL ESTATE AS WELL TO DEAL WITH THE POLICE STATION AND COURTHOUSE.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE AS TO WHAT $150,000 IS GOING TO GET US.

WELL, WELL, I COULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE TOWN BY AND LARGE IS VERY WELL RUN AS EVIDENT BY THE FACT THAT THE SERV PEOPLE, LIKE THE SERVICES PEOPLE APPRECIATE OUR POLICE, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT GET VIRTUALLY NO COMPLAINTS.

WE'RE VERY FEW COMPLAINTS ABOUT SERVICES.

OUR BOND RATING IS THE HIGHEST OF ANY COMMUNITY IN WESTCHESTER.

THERE'S NOT THAT MANY COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE AAA BOND RATING HAVE HAD AAA BOND RATING FOR, YOU KNOW, OVER A DECADE UNDER MY WATCH, IT'S GONE UP THREE TIMES TO THE HIGHEST RATING ANY COMMUNITY COULD GET.

SO THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS SPEAKING TO, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I GOT A PRINTOUT.

THERE'S MUNICIPALITIES, VILLAGES, UM, OUR, THE COST OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES FOR THE TOWN FOR RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS LESS THAN, UH, THE COST OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES.

THEY'RE PAYING LESS TAXES THEN, UH, RESIDENTS IN ALMOST ALL THE VILLAGES, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN GREENBERG.

SO I THINK WE'RE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

BUT THE QUE THE THING IS, IF YOU WON, AGAIN, AS CLOSE TO PERFECTION AS POSSIBLE, WE NEED THE TOOLS.

AND WE CAN'T JUST SAY, OH, EVERYTHING'S GREAT.

LOOK, WE HAVE A TAX, A 6% TAX DECREASE.

LOOK, UH, WE HAVE AAA BOND RATING.

LOOK, EVERYBODY'S LIKES THE SERVICES.

WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY LOOK AT WAYS FOR WAYS TO REINVENT OURSELVES AND TO BE, AND TO RUN, YOU KNOW, AND TO RUN, UM, THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, BETTER.

AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, THAT I KNOW WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB, AND I KNOW WE COULD BE RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY, AND I KNOW THAT THERE COULD BE MORE SHARING OF, UM, YOU KNOW, OF, OF, YOU KNOW, OF SERVICES AND, AND COST CONTROLS.

UM, BUT I, WE NEED THE TOOLS.

UM, IF, IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S NO, IF WE DON'T HAVE, I MEAN, NONE OF US HAVE RECEIVED QUARTERLY, UM, EXPENSES AND REVENUES FOR YEARS.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT ANY GIVEN TIME DURING THE YEAR, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO'S WORK, WHO'S WORKING ON, ON THAT.

UM, WE DON'T KNOW, UM, IF THERE'S CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, HAL, HAL MENTIONED, WE DON'T KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY SOME CAPITAL BUDGETS HAVE THAT WERE APPROVED, HAVEN'T, OR HAVE, HAVE, HAVE BEEN SPENT.

SO I BASICALLY WANT TO HAVE MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE CONTROLS.

I WANNA HAVE MORE, MORE TIGHTENING, UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE EXAMPLES THAT YOU'RE GIVING, YEAH, YOU KNOW, DON'T UNDERSCORE THE NEED FOR THE TYPE OF PROFESSIONAL YOU DESCRIBED.

THE EXAMPLES THAT YOU'RE GIVING WOULD SEEM TO INDICATE THAT THE WAY WE ARE HANDLING OUR FINANCES IS GREAT, BECAUSE WE'VE MAINTAINED THE AAA BOND RATING AND TAXES HAVEN'T GONE UP IN ALL THESE YEARS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

WHAT YOU DESCRIBE THAT WE NEED, I DON'T BELIEVE IS THE, IS THE ROLE OF A PERSON WHO IS GOING TO FURTHER OVERSEE THE FINANCES.

WHAT I THINK YOUR DESCRIPTION OF THE PERSON THAT WE NEED IS SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO, UH, OVERSEE, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHY THEY'VE REQUESTED THINGS IN THEIR CAPITAL BUDGET AND HAVEN'T SPENT THE MONEY.

UH, WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO THEY, WHAT TYPE OF SUPPORT DO THEY NEED IN ORDER TO DO THAT? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT WE NEED IS SOMEONE WHO'S MORE, UH, WHO'S GOING TO, TO, WHO'S GOING TO MANAGE THE INTERNAL, UH, UH, OPERATIONS OF THE TOWN IN A WAY THAT THEY OPERATE MORE EFFICIENTLY.

AND I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THE PERSON THAT YOU DESCRIBE, UH, IS THAT PERSON.

THE ONLY REASON I'M SUGGESTING IT, THE WAY I'M PROPOSING IS UNDER NEW YORK STATE LAW, THE TOWN SUPERVISOR,

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UM, IS BASICALLY ONE OF FIVE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M BASICALLY BLAMED FOR THINGS THAT GO WRONG.

AND I, I FEEL THAT I WANNA TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND OWNERSHIP FOR ALL ASPECTS OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THE TOWN GOVERNMENT.

UM, I DON'T WANT TO POINT FINGERS, I DON'T WANT TO BLAME OTHERS.

I FEEL IF I HAVE THIS POSITION AND I'M ABLE TO APPOINT SOMEBODY THAT I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN AND THE TOWN, AND THERE'S A PROBLEM, I WILL TAKE TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT.

UM, I DON'T WANNA HAVE AN, UH, UH, SOMEBODY WHO REPORT.

I, I BASICALLY FAIL.

PEOPLE FAIL, THEY ELECT A TOWN SUPERVISOR WHO IS EXPECTED TO BE THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE TOWN.

THAT'S MY JOB.

AND I BASICALLY WANT THE TOOLS SO I COULD DO MY JOB BETTER.

YOU KNOW, I, I THINK I'M AN EXCELLENT ADMINISTRATOR.

I THINK THE TOWN IS VERY, VERY WELL RUN, BUT I AM, I BELIEVE I COULD DO A MUCH BETTER JOB, A BETTER JOB IF I GET THE RESOURCES, AND IF THE BOARD DOESN'T WANT IT, AND THEY, AND WE MAKE MISTAKES OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, FINE, THEN AT LEAST I'M ON RECORD.

I'VE SAID WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS MY VISION FOR, UM, WHAT I THINK THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN NEEDS IN THE FUTURE.

AND AGAIN, IF THE BOARD DOESN'T GO ALONG WITH IT, WE'LL DO THE SAME THING.

AND MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE'LL ALSO HAVE A TAX DECREASE.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE COULD DO A, A, A GOOD JOB WITHOUT THE POSITION, BUT I THINK WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB WITH THE POSITION.

AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR.

AND IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THE BOARD.

IT'S YOUR BUDGET.

YOU HAVE TO DECIDE DO YOU WANT IT OR NOT? WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE DOING OKAY FROM A FINANCIAL ASPECT, BUT THERE WE COULD DO BETTER.

BUT IT, I, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN JONES THAT AN OPERATIONAL PULL MICROPHONE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

THAT'S GOOD.

THANKS.

I AGREE WITH, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN JONES THAT SOMEONE WHO IS OPERATIONAL WOULD BE MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE, WHERE WE HAVE A DEFICIT IN THE, UM, OPERATIONS OF THE COUNTY THAN THE TOWN IN THE TOWN.

I'M SORRY, , EXCUSE ME.

UM, I THINK THAT, THAT, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AND THAT WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER.

OR MAYBE YOU JUST INVEST IN YOUR STAFF MORE.

MAYBE YOU TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY, TAKE, LOOK AT IT, DO A REORG, MAKE SURE THAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE PROPERLY ALIGNED, AND ALSO MAKE SURE YOU INVEST IN YOUR STAFF.

I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT, UM, YOU DON'T FEEL TRAINING AND GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY AND GIVING THEM MORE RESOURCES.

I THINK IF YOU DO THAT ONE, IT IS CHEAPER FOR THE TOWN.

AND THEN SECONDLY, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T COMMENDED OUR COMPTROLLER WHAT THE GOOD JOB THAT SHE HAS DONE.

I JUST, IT JUST THINK EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE JUST DESCRIBED JUST DESCRIBED OUR COMPTROLLER AND YOU JUST TOLD, YOU JUST STATED HOW WELL, WHAT THE TOWN IS DOING.

I THINK IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE WHAT THE MAKE OF, OF WE, WHAT WE LOOK LIKE INTERNALLY, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU START THERE AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S NEEDED.

I JUST, I'M JUST NOT, AND AGAIN, TO EVERYONE WHO JUST SAID, ALL THE COUNCIL PERSONS WHO JUST SPOKE, WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED DOES NOT SOUND LIKE ANYTHING OF A FINANCIAL PERSON.

IT SOUNDS LIKE AN OPERATIONAL PERSON.

AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE HEARD US DISCUSS THAT.

I MEAN, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, SOME SERIOUS CHANGES WE NEED TO MAKE, BUT WE NEED TO FIRST LOOK INTERNALLY AND SEE WHERE AREAS THAT WE CAN REALIGN AND THEN SEE FROM THERE WHAT CHANGES NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BUDGET? SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE.

NO, THERE ARE NO FURTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THE BUDGET.

SO PAUL, YOU WANT TO ADJOURN THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING? YEAH, TILL, WHEN'S THE NEXT, UH, MEETING? I BELIEVE IT'S THE, LET'S DECEMBER 14TH.

THE 14TH.

DECEMBER 14TH.

WE'LL ADJOURNING IT TO DECEMBER 14TH.

SO CAN WE FOLLOW THE FORMALITIES AND OPEN THE HEARING AND HAVE A SECOND AND THEN ADJOURN IT? SO PAUL, YOU MOVED, I'M MUTE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I MOVE, WELL, IT, WHETHER IT'S MUTED OR NOT, IT'S PART OF THE PROTOCOL.

UM, PAUL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THANKS ROBERTA.

I, I'M NOT SURE, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU MOVED TO OPEN THIS HEARING AND I, AND I DON'T, DID NOT HEAR A SECOND.

UM, WE HAD, UM, MR. SAMS COME UP AND SPEAK AND THEN WE DID NOT HAVE ANYONE ELSE SPEAK.

AND THEN THE BOARD SHARED THEIR COMMENTS, BUT WE DID NOT, YOU DID NOT OPEN THIS BUDGET HEARING AND THERE WAS NOT A SECOND.

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SO WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY, JUST TO BE PAUL MOVED TO OP, WHICH WE COULD HAVE MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? SO WHY DON'T WE JUST GO THROUGH THE, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO I'M DEBATE WITH YOU, FRANCIS, RIGHT? I AM, I AM SHARING WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH THE BOARD WHAT THE PROTOCOLS ARE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.

SO IF, IF WE, IF, IF WE FORGOT TO, UM, UH, OPEN UP THE HEARING, UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE RETROACTIVE THAT.

THE HEARING BE, UH, UH, OPENED UP AND YOU KNOW, THE RECORD SHOULD INDICATE THAT THERE WAS A VOTE.

IS DOES EVERYBODY WANT TO SAY THAT? ALL THE COMMENTS? MAY WE HAVE A SECOND? MAY WE HAVE A SECOND TO RETROACTIVELY OPENING? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

GINA SECOND.

NOW THE HEARING'S CLOSED.

THANK YOU, UH, TO CONSIDER AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND RELATED APPLICATION BY MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER FOR PROPERTY, LOCATED AT, UM, 9 1 3 9 9 9 CENTRAL PARK AVENUE, SOUTH PO OF SCARSDALE, NEW YORK.

NO, IT'S NOT CLOSED.

WE DID NOT CLOSE.

I MEAN, AJOUR, YOU ADJOURNED IT FOR ALL PURPOSES, RIGHT? THAT'S FINE.

TO THE 14TH.

SO NOW PAUL TOWN SUPERVISOR MOVED TO ADJOURN HEARING FOR ALL PURPOSES.

OKAY, NEXT,

[ To consider an Amended Site Plan and related applications by Midway Shopping Center for property located at 913-999 Central Park Avenue South (P.O. Scarsdale, NY) https://greenburghny.com/603/_-Active-Applications---Town-Board]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE REOPEN THAT.

ACCEPTED BY THE TOWN BOARD BASED ON EXPERT REPORTS RATHER THAN ON SPECULATION AND CONCERN, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND IS SINCERE CONCERN.

GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR.

FINER TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD.

GARRETT DUQUE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS A CONTINUATION OF THE HEARING HELD ON OCTOBER 12TH, OCTOBER 26TH, AND NOVEMBER 9TH, 2022, RELATED TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN APPLICATION OF MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER.

THE APPLICATION ALSO INVOLVES SHARED PARKING REDUCTION REQUEST TO THE PLANNING BOARD, AS WELL AS A SPECIAL PERMIT, UH, FOR RESTAURANT SPACE AND FAST FOOD SPACE WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, MR. BILL NULL.

WILLIAM NULL IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT ALONG WITH THEIR ENGINEERING TEAM.

UH, IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT MS. ANDREA CANNELL IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE WITH, UM, KIMLEY HORNE.

THANK YOU, GARRETT.

ARE YOU INTENTIONALLY OFF CAMERA? OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S OKAY.

WE, BUT WE DID HEAR YOU.

GO AHEAD.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. SUPERVISOR AND MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD.

MY NAME IS WILLIAM NULL.

I'M A PARTNER AT THE FIRM OF CUTTING AND FADER, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER, LP, WHICH IS THE OWNERSHIP ENTITY FOR THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTERS IN PROGRESS.

SORRY.

WE HAVE THE PRIOR, UH, BOARD MEETINGS AND PUBLIC SESSIONS OF THE PUBLIC HEARING GONE THROUGH DETAILED REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION PENDING BEFORE YOU.

AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

WE'VE HAD THE BENEFIT OF READING, UH, THE COMMUNICATION FROM THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND APPRECIATE ITS INPUT, ALTHOUGH WE, UM, HAVE COMMENTS WITH, WITH REGARD TO IT.

UM, AND WITH DUE RESPECT TO THE COUNCIL, UM, THE LETTER REFERS TO AN INCREASE IN RETAIL SPACE.

THE PROPOSAL HERE IS NOT AN INCREASE IN ANY SPACE.

IT'S TO ACTUALLY REOCCUPY, UH, THE DRESS BARN BUILDING THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR OVER THREE YEARS BY CONVERTING THE USE FROM RETAIL TO RESTAURANT USE.

TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESTAURANT USES.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE EVALUATED PARKING DEMANDS IN SIX DIFFERENT COUNTS, AND THE TOWN ITSELF WENT OUT AND DID SEVERAL DAYS OF DIFFERENT COUNTS, UH, ON PARKING USING DRONE, UH, UH, FACILITIES.

THOSE THAT INFORMATION AND DATA WAS COMPARED WITH THE VERIFIED DATA THAT WE HAD PROVIDED TO THE TOWN IN MULTIPLE REPORTS, ALL OF WHICH HAD BEEN VETTED BY THE TOWN'S CONSULTANT.

AND THE ADDITIONAL DATA WAS CONFIRMED AS BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE ANALYSIS THAT WE HAD, WE HAD PROVIDED.

SO WE HAVE A, AN, UM, A POSITIVE REPORT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD THAT REVIEWED THOSE REPORTS.

WE HAVE, UM, VALIDATION AND CONFIRMATION FROM THE TOWN'S, UH, TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND WITH THE ADDITIONAL DATA WE HAD THAT SAME DATA ALIGNED WITH AND CONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE EARLIER REPORTS.

SO WHILE I CAN UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE HAVING SKEPTICISM THAT THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER COULD REDUCE THE PARKING BY 46 SPACES AND STILL HAVE EFFICIENT AND SUFFICIENT PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE RESTAURANTS, THAT'S BEEN VALIDATED MULTIPLE TIMES WITH MULTIPLE COUNTS BY MULTIPLE CONSULTANTS.

AND WE SUBMIT THAT THAT SHOULD BE, UM,

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BUT THE BEST WAY TO ANALYZE INFORMATION IS TO HAVE, UH, EXPERIENCED INDIVIDUALS OBTAIN DATA, PROCESS IT, AND, AND THEN, UH, REPORT BACK.

AND THAT'S BEEN DONE MULTIPLE TIMES AND WE APPRECIATE THE TOWN'S EFFORT TO GET ADDITIONAL DATA THAT WAS REVIEWED AT THE LAST SESSION.

UH, TO BE CONSISTENT, THERE WAS MENTION, UH, ABOUT AN ARDSLEY SIDEWALK, AND WE CONCUR THAT IT'S, IT SHOULD BE TO THE TOWN TO DECIDE WHETHER A SIDEWALK, UM, BE PUT ON ARDSLEY ROAD OR NOT.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, OUR ANALYSIS INDICATED THAT THERE WAS A LACK OF LAND FOR A SUFFICIENTLY WIDE, UH, AN ADEQUATELY GRADED SIDEWALK, WHICH COULD MEAN THE ACQUISITION OF SOME LANDS IS NECESSARY, SOMETHING THAT OUR CLIENT AS A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO.

IT'S REALLY AN EMINENT DOMAIN ISSUE, POTENTIALLY FOR RIGHT OF WAY.

BUT IN ANY EVENT, AND I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE OPERATION OF THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER BY THE ADDITION OF TWO RESTAURANTS DOES NOT REQUIRE, UH, MITIGATION OF ANY IMPACT OF THE ABILITY OF PEDESTRIANS TO USE ARDSLEY ROAD OR ITS SIDEWALKS.

AND THEREFORE, WHILE WE WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST FOR US TO EVALUATE, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR A SIDEWALK ALONG ARDSLEY ROAD, AND IN FACT IMPROVED INTERNAL CIRCULATION AND PROVIDE A PROPOSING AT CROSSWALK, AT GRADE CROSSWALK ON ARLEY ROAD THAT WOULD CONNECT TO EXISTING SIDEWALKS, AND WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK FOR THE TOWN ALONG ARLEY ROAD.

UM, WE KNOW THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THE OPERATION OF THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER, AND WE'VE BENEFITED FROM INPUT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, FROM THIS BOARD, AND FROM THE TOWNS CONSULTANTS.

THE PLANS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED, UH, DO IMPROVE THAT.

THE FACT THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON SOMETHING, AS YOU'VE ACKNOWLEDGED JUST BEFORE, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

IT JUST MEANS THAT THINGS CAN GET BETTER, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD FOR A SITE PLAN, UH, AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO CONVERT THE DRESS BARN BUILDING THAT'S VACANT, AS I SAID, FOR THREE YEARS TO USE FOR RESTAURANT SPACE.

AND THAT WILL ENABLE US ALSO TO MODIFY THE INTERNAL CIRCULATION IN THE MANNER THAT WE SHOWED YOU LAST SESSION WITH THE SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISONS OF THE INTERNAL RECONFIGURATION OF AISLES AND PARKING AREAS, UM, SO THAT THE CENTER MAY RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY AND, AND BETTER OVERALL.

UH, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS AND QUESTIONS I, AND THEN HAL SAMS WOULD COME UP FOR, FOR COMMENT.

I DID, DID YOU OPEN THE HEARING? I JUST, YES, YES.

WE DID.

UM, I DID GO OVER TO MIDWAY AS I SAID I WOULD AND DROVE AROUND AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS SCARY, UM, BUT THERE ARE NO, THERE, THERE WERE PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS THE STREET TO THE STORES WITHOUT LOOKING AS CARS.

WERE COMING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

SO I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS TO MAKE THE, THE, UH, FLOW OF TRAFFIC ONE WAY I THINK THAT WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE AND TO HAVE CLEARLY DELINEATED CROSSWALKS.

UM, MY, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE DATA.

SO YOU, YOU DID DO STUDIES IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OF 2021 WHEN, UM, POST COVID WASN'T COMPLETELY POST COVID AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL NOT SHOPPING AS THERE MAY BE.

SO I HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN YOUR OTHER MORE RECENT STUDY WAS IN AUGUST, WHICH IS A, I THINK A SLOWER TIME OF YEAR.

I THINK YOU DID ONE ALSO IN JULY, WAS IT JUNE OR JULY? SO ROB, COULD YOU ROB AIELLO, COULD YOU COME UP PLEASE? WE DID MULTIPLE STUDIES IN THE COUNTS, REALLY.

THEY WERE, UM, THEY WERE COUNTS OF UTILIZATION OF PARKING SPACES, SO THEY WERE, THERE WERE RECENT STUDIES THAT WERE ALSO DONE COUNTS.

THE DRONE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT THE TOWN TOOK THAT GAVE US ADDITIONAL DATA AS WELL.

ONE, THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN USAGE BASED ON THEIR REQUEST OR INPUT THAT THEY GAVE YOU, BUT I'M NOT POSITIVE.

, THAT'S TRUE.

SO ROB, COULD YOU IDENTIFY, I'M SORRY, YOU, YOU HAD A QUESTION, SO I'M, NOW I, I LIKE TO IDENTIFY IT AND JUST EXPAND UPON THAT AND SEE, BECAUSE I, I, I HAVEN'T REVIEWED WHAT THE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS SAID.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THEIR CHANGES AND ADJUSTMENTS, I, I BELIEVE THERE WAS

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SO IF YOU CAN JUST ELABORATE ON THAT.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION? I THINK SO.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

UM, MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, MR. SUPERVISOR ELLA, WITH THE FIRM OF J M C? UH, SO THE, THE ACCOUNTS THAT WE PERFORMED, UH, WERE PART OF OUR ONGOING PROCESS WITH THE PLANNING BOARD.

AND THE, THE DAYS THAT THEY WERE PERFORMED IN THE MONTHS THAT THEY PERFORMED WERE IN, AS YOU STATED, UH, NOVEMBER OF 21, DECEMBER OF 21, AND THEN ALSO IN AUGUST OF, OF 22.

AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THAT WAS TO CONFIRM THE, UH, COUNTS THAT WERE DONE IN THAT POST COVID PERIOD, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EFFECTIVELY CAPTURED THE REALITY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN A MORE POST COVID WORLD.

UH, AND WE FOUND THAT THE DATA WAS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT, IN ADDITION, WHEN THE TOWN DID ITS DRONE ANALYSIS ALSO, UH, JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, TRUE, UH, YOU KNOW, FORGOTTEN ONE YEAR AFTER THE TIME PERIOD THAT WE, YOU KNOW, BEGAN.

UH, WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE DATA WAS CONSISTENT AND IN MANY CASES OUR DATA WAS ACTUALLY HIGHER.

SO, YOU KNOW, CENTERS LIKE THIS, THERE'S NOT MUCH SEASONAL VARIATION BECAUSE OF THE ANCHOR TENANTS THAT ARE THERE.

AND THAT HAS BORN TRUE IN THE DATA, AND THAT'S WHY WE AND THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WERE SATISFIED THAT IT PROPERLY CAPTURED THE UTILIZATION OF THE CENTER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I, I HAD A QUESTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO THE SHOPPING CENTER, UH, TWICE THIS WEEKEND AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY CROWDED, YOU KNOW, BOTH TIMES, YOU KNOW, THAT I WERE THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I'M THERE PRACTICALLY EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, I USUALLY DO MY SUPERMARKET SHOPPING LATE AT NIGHT, AND IT'S EVEN CROWDED AT AT NIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I WAS DISAPPOINTED, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, THE BOARD DECIDED NOT TO DO THE SITE, UM, YOU KNOW, VISIT, BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THIS WEEKEND WAS REALLY THE, UM, PROBABLY ONE OF THE BUSIEST WEEKENDS RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING.

YOU KNOW, THE, THIS, THIS SHOPRITE THE WHOLE COMPLEX IS, YOU KNOW, IS MOD I'M SORT OF WONDERING, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO, LET'S SAY WE LET YOU HAVE ONE RESTAURANT INSTEAD OF TWO, UM, AND BASICALLY SAW WHAT THE IMPACTS OF THAT ONE RESTAURANT WOULD BE.

UM, YOU MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN IF IT TURNS OUT THAT IT'S NOT A DISASTER, THEN YOU COULD GET, YOU COULD APPLY AND GET THE TWO LATER ON.

I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S, IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO OPEN TO SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, COMPROMISE BECAUSE I'M WORRIED.

I REALLY THINK THAT, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT IS THE RESTAURANT DEFINITELY IS GONNA BE POPULAR, AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA, YOU KNOW, BE PLEASED WITH, YOU KNOW, TWO NEW RESTAURANTS.

UM, BUT I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S STILL GONNA BE A TRAFFIC MESS.

EVEN, I MEAN, YOU MAY EVEN WITH IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA SOLVE, I PERSONALLY WOULD BE SURPRISED IF IT SOLVES THE PROBLEM, BUT MAYBE I'M WRONG.

AND I FEEL THAT IF WE HAVE SOME SORT OF TEMP COMPROMISE, AT LEAST TEMPORARILY, THEN WE COULD, BEFORE WE AUTHORIZE EVERYTHING, WE COULD AT LEAST, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AUTHORIZING SOMETHING THAT COULD MAKE THINGS WORSE.

MR. SUPERVISOR, I, I THINK THE DATA AND THE ANALYSES, UH, FULLY SUPPORT THE TWO RESTAURANTS.

THE, THE DRESS BARN SPACE HAS BEEN EMPTY FOR THREE YEARS.

WE NEED TO GET REVENUES GOING, AND THE APPLICATION IS FOR THE TWO RESTAURANTS.

I DON'T THINK IT WORKS FOR US TO DO ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BASIS OF REVENUE FROM ONE RESTAURANT.

AND, AND WE REALLY NEED BOTH RESTAURANTS IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS WORK.

SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE NET DIFFERENCE IN PARKING SPACES? WE WOULD, WE WOULD REDUCE THE PARKING AT THE SITE BY 46 SPACES.

THAT ARE PHYSICALLY LOST IS BECAUSE THERE'S AN INCREASED PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR RESTAURANTS AS COMPARED TO THE RETAIL SPACE THAT THOSE RESTAURANTS WILL OCCUPY.

I'M JUST, AND, AND LOOKING AT DYLAN'S LETTER, SORRY.

WELL, THE SHORT, THERE IS A SHARED PARKING REDUCTION THAT WE'RE ASKING THE PLANNING BOARD TO GRANT.

AND IF THIS BOARD AND ITS WISDOM DETERMINED TO GRANT SITE PLAN APPROVAL, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE PLANNING BOARD GRANTING THE SHARED PARKING REDUCTION THAT IT HAS JURISDICTION TO DO.

THE KEY REASON THAT THE NUMBERS ARE HIGHER THAN THE 46 SPACES

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UH, IT'S ALSO RECOGNIZED, HOWEVER, BY THE TOWN ITSELF THAT THE PARKING RATIO, UM, THE NUMBER OF SPACES PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FOR A RESTAURANT AND FOR THE FAST FOOD SORT OF QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN A PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS HIGHER THAN MOST OTHER JURISDICTIONS WOULD HAVE, AND IS NOT, NOT A RATE THAT'S NECESSARILY REQUIRED TO MEET THE DEMAND OF THE RESTAURANTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN WESTCHESTER, OTHER TOWNS, ROB? YES.

WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE THAT TOWNS ARE MOVING TO A FLAT RATE FOR SHOPPING CENTERS, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH I T E AND U L I STUDIES, WHICH VARY BETWEEN FOUR AND FOUR AND A HALF PARKING SPACES PER THOUSAND AS COMPARED TO YES, AS COMPARED TO, UH, FOR THE RESTAURANT.

MARK, WHAT'S THE RESTAURANT REQUIREMENT FOR GREENBERG? IT IS, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE IT RIGHT HERE ON OUR PLAN.

75.

IT IS, YES.

ONE PER 75 OR ALMOST SIX OR SEVEN PARKING SPACES PER THOUSAND.

UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT OTHER TOWNS IN WESTCHESTER, SOME COMPARISONS JUST WHO HAVE IMPLEMENTED THIS NEWER CALCULUS YONKERS FOR SHOP.

SO THE, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT FOR SHOPPING CENTERS AS COMPARED TO STANDALONE RESTAURANTS.

AND WHAT, WHAT'S WHAT'S UNDERSTOOD IN A SHOPPING CENTER IS THAT PEOPLE WILL OFTEN GO TO A SHOPPING CENTER AND GO TO MULTIPLE PLACES.

PARK WANTS, GO TO MULTIPLE PLACES, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON WHY IN A SHOPPING CENTER YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT RATIO THAN YOU DO OTHERWISE.

YONKERS, FOR INSTANCE, JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM THIS CENTER HAS A REQUIREMENT OF ONE PER 150.

UM, I THINK FOR THE, UH, DESIGN SHOPPING CENTER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 4,000, FOUR PER THOUSAND IN INSTEAD OF THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE.

SO WHAT WE'RE IN THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE, WE USED THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENT, OF COURSE, BUT WE ALSO ANALYZED WHAT, WHAT NUMBER OF SPACES THEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE.

AND FOR THAT REASON, THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE WAS BASED ON THE TOWN'S RATIOS AND WE THINK WAS VERY CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE OF THAT.

WE DIDN'T TAKE A CREDIT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT, UH, THAT THE NUMBERS SHOULD BE DIFFERENT.

WE JUST KIND OF NOTE THAT THE ANALYSIS WAS DONE USING THE TOWN ZONE NUMBERS.

SO THIS YONKERS SHOPPING CENTER, IS THAT ONE OF YOURS? YOURS? UM, OR IS THAT JUST A, A SEPARATE ONE YOU'RE USING AS A IT'S JUST A SEPARATE ONE THAT I'VE WORKED ON.

THAT'S ALL DONE THAT YOU WORKED ON, THAT YOU, YEAH.

SO DO YOU HAVE, UM, ANY FOLLOW UP DATA? I'M, I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT, IT, I'M NOT COMPARING IT FOR THE PURPOSES OF GIVING YOU DATA FOR THIS CENTER.

YOU JUST ASKED WHERE IN WESTCHESTER THERE WERE DIFFERENT I KNOW, I, I'M, BUT I'M ASKING, I'M TRYING TO PROVIDE THAT ANSWER IF IN FACT THEY HAVE FOUR SPACES PER THOUSAND.

HOW HAS THAT WORKED OUT FOR THEM? JUST TO, TO, I HAVE AN, I HAVEN'T ANALYZED IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT RESTAURANTS THEY HAVE, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DO A COMPARABLE ANALYSIS.

NO, I WOULDN'T, A I I WASN'T SUGGESTING THAT YOU DO A COMPARABLE ANALYSIS, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD ACCESS TO A COMPARABLE NO.

DON'T HAVE ANALYSIS THAT MIGHT HAVE I DON'T HAVE AN ANALYSIS LIKE THAT.

NO.

UM, WHAT I, WHAT I WAS, THE POINT THAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE, AND MAYBE I JUST CONFUSE THINGS INSTEAD, AND I APOLOGIZE IF THAT'S THE CASE, IS THAT THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE ON THE SUFFICIENCY OF THE PARKING WAS USING GREENBERG'S RATIO.

I, THAT WHICH IS A HIGHER RATIO THAN MANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES USE IN THE AREA.

I DON'T WANT, I, I'D RATHER NOT, THOUGH REACH INTO OTHER COMMUNITIES AND DO ANALYSES WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES.

I I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO, I THOUGHT THAT I JUST ASKED IF YOU HAD, IF YOU HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT.

IF YOU HAD THE DATA.

BUT I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO GO NOW AND PRODUCE THAT DATA.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE YOU'RE USING THE FOUR SPACES PER AS OPPOSED TO THE 6, 7 7.

NO, WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE USING WHAT GREENBERG NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

THAT'S NOT, LET ME FINISH MY SENTENCE.

SORRY.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE USING THAT AS A COMPARISON.

I'M NOT.

WELL, YOU SAID OTHER AR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN WESTCHESTER USE THIS DIFFERENT METRICS.

SO LET ME, SO BY, BY USING THAT, LET ME RESTATE IT IF I COULD.

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PLEASE DO.

THE ANALYSES THAT WERE DONE, THAT WERE VETTED BY YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND VALIDATED AS BEING ACCURATE, USE THE HIGHER NUMBER THAT GREENBERG USES AS THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THESE RESTAURANTS.

I UNDERSTOOD THAT.

I, I, THAT WAS NOT WHERE I WAS GOING.

AND, AND THE SUPERVISOR'S CONCERN WAS THAT, THAT THEY MADE THAT THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM NONETHELESS.

AND MY POINT WAS THAT WE USED THE HIGHER NUMBER, WE WERE MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN MOST OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE ON A REQUIREMENT FOR PARKING FOR RESTAURANTS.

AND MY POINT WAS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES USE THE LESSER NUMBER OF SPACES PER THOUSAND, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE ISSUES USING THE FEWER SPACES.

EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE USING THE, THE, THE GREENBERG METRIC, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL TO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THAN PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.

I'M JUST LOOKING FOR, TO HELP YOU JUSTIFY WHY IT WILL WORK.

I'VE NOT HEARD OF PROBLEMS IN THOSE CENTERS THAT OUR CLIENTS HAVE WHERE RESTAURANTS ARE OPERATING OF THE RESTAURANTS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY HAVE IN INSUFFICIENT PARKING, NOR HAVE I HEARD PROBLEMS WITH PARKING SPILLING ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THERE'S INSUFFICIENT PARKING.

THOSE CENTERS SEEM TO OPERATE FINE, BUT I DON'T HAVE REPORTS OR STUDIES OKAY.

OTHER THAN THE ANECDOTAL INFORMATION THAT I JUST SHARED.

WELL, EVEN EVEN THAT IS, IS GOOD TO KNOW.

HAVE YOU HAD, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU CAN'T DISCLOSE IF YOU HAVE, UH, RE ANY RESTAURANTS, UM, THAT HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CALLING ME SAYING THAT THEY'RE IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS AND THEY'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, RUMORS.

UM, UH, HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH ANY RESTAURANTS RIGHT NOW, AND COULD YOU TELL US, GIVE US MORE INFORMATION AS TO WHO THE, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS ARE THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST SESSION, MR. SUPERVISOR AND, AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY.

THE, WE DON'T HAVE RESTAURANTS SECURED AND THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE, UH, I THINK IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY ANALYZED BASED ON, UH, I T E STANDARDS AND STANDARDS IN THE INDUSTRY.

SO THE RESTAURANTS WE MAY INITIALLY GO WITH, IF THEY DON'T STAY, THE, THE APPROVAL THAT YOU'RE GRANTING ISN'T SPECIFIC TO A PARTICULAR RESTAURANT.

IT'S FOR THE USE OF, OF THE BUILDING FOR A PARTICULAR TYPE OF RESTAURANT.

AND, AND I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION TO SHARE OR AVAILABLE TO ME ON ANY TENANTS PERSPECTIVE TENANTS FOR THESE SPACES.

I AM LOOKING AT AN EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11 THAT I PRINTED OFF THE, THE DATA.

SO I, I CAN'T REALLY SEE VERY WELL, UM, THE STOP SIGNS AND, AND THEIR POSITIONING.

UM, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, HOW FREQUENT STOP SIGNS ARE AND AT WHAT INTERSECTIONS.

IF YOU COULD GIVE A LITTLE BIT, WE CAN, WE CAN PUT THE PLAN UP ON, ON THE SCREEN IF YOU'D LIKE.

YEAH, THAT WOULD GREAT.

WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

I HAVE IT ALSO HERE IN MY, SO I CAN LOOK AT IT MORE CLOSELY.

WALK THEM THROUGH WHERE THE STOP SIGNS ARE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS DRAWING IS GOING TO HELP EVERYONE MUCH BETTER.

RIGHT NOW.

WE'D HAVE TO BLOW UP AND SEE, BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING STOP SIGNS AT ALL OF THE INTERSECTIONS.

MAYBE WE CAN DO THE SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISONS WE HAD FROM LAST TIME.

THEY WERE SORT OF ZOOMED IN ON 52 AREAS WHERE WE'RE CHANGING THINGS.

SURE, THAT'S FINE.

ACTUALLY, MARK, GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE, PLEASE.

I CAN'T EVEN, SO IF, IF YOU ZOOM IN AND IF YOU SEE ALL OF THE SIGNS THAT HAVE AN A NEXT TO THEM, THAT IS WHERE A STOP SIGN IS PROPOSED.

SO IT'S AT THE INTERSECTIONS, UH, ALL THE PROPOSED INTERSECTIONS, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHERE THE STOP BARS ARE PROPOSED.

FLOW AS PEOPLE ENTER INTO THE DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS AT THE CENTER AS WELL, AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGNS, WHICH ARE PROVIDED AT EACH OF THE CROSSWALKS.

, THERE'S A STOP BAR AND ALSO A STOP SIGN AT EACH OF THE APPROACHES TO THESE INTERSECTIONS HERE.

IN ADDITION TO THE STOP SIGNS, YOU'LL ALSO SEE, UH, ONE WAY SIGNS, UH, TO INDICATE THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC

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SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF SIGNAGE THAT'S USED THROUGHOUT THE CENTER, DEPENDING ON THE INDIVIDUAL CONDITION AT EACH INTERSECTION.

BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN ONES THAT ARE PROPOSED.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION, THOUGH, JUST THOUGHT OF? UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, I UNDER UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE COME UP WITH POTENTIAL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS POSITIVE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE AREA.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WRONG AND, YOU KNOW, THE RESTAURANT USE IS A LOT OF IT'S REAL POPULAR AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY, UM, IMPROVEMENT.

IT'S NOT MUCH SAFER THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW AFTER THAT.

ARE THERE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO IF MONEY WASN'T AN OBJECT THAT COULD MAKE THE PARKING AREA, YOU KNOW, SAFER THAT YOU, YOU, YOU HAVEN'T FUNDED RIGHT NOW? WELL, I, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE CENTER IS WE HAVE LOOKED AT POINTS OF CONFLICT AND THERE ARE ARE MANY, AND BY PROPOSING THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, THE ONE-WAY FLOW IN THIS AREA IN PARTICULAR, YOU'RE MINIMIZING THE NUMBER OF CONFLICT POINTS.

UH, SO WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY HAVE USED MOST OR ALL OF THE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US AS TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TO, NUMBER ONE, MINIMIZE THE, UH, CONFLICTS.

AND NUMBER TWO, TO APPROPRIATELY SIGN AND MARK AND DELINEATE AREAS WHERE VEHICLES NEED TO STOP OR YIELD AND WHERE PEDESTRIANS ARE INTENDED TO WALK.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE'VE LEFT OFF THE TABLE PER SE.

MR. SUPERVISOR, WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS VERY CLOSELY MINIMIZED CONFLICTS AND PROVIDED IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

SO YOU DON'T THINK THERE'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD BE DONE TO MAKE IT SAFER IF YOU HAD, IF YOU HAD AN UNLIMITED BUDGET? THERE'S NOTHING THAT I CAN, I THINK OF BECAUSE WHAT I'M, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO ANSWER TO, BECAUSE I'M SORT OF WONDERING, WE'RE NOT HOLDING ANYTHING BACK, MR. VISOR.

I'M, I'M WONDERING IF YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MAYBE ONE OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, OPTION FOR THE TOWN COULD HAVE BEEN IF, LET'S SAY THIS DOESN'T, LET'S SAY IT GETS APPROVED AND IT TURNS OUT THAT IT'S, THERE'S STILL PROBLEMS. MAYBE, UH, THE TOWN COULD HAVE SOME, UH, ABILITY OF REQUIRING ADDITIONAL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS DOESN'T WORK, BECAUSE IT MAY NOT WORK.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE A WAY OF, UH, DON'T YOU THINK WE NEED TO GET US AN OPPORTUNITY? I'M SORRY, I'VE, I'VE, OKAY.

I THINK I WANNA COMMEND YOUR CLIENT FOR COMING IN AND TRYING TO HELP INCREASE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED WITH COVID AND, AND EVERYTHING, AND YOU CAN JUST LOOK UP, GOING UP AND DOWN CENTRAL AVENUE, ALL THE EMPTY STOREFRONTS.

SO THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO COME AND UTILIZE THAT SPACE THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, GIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US.

WANTS RESTAURANTS, EVERYBODY WANTS THE STORES, UM, UM, SHOPPING CENTERS TO BE VIBRANT.

I SEE HOW YOU'VE, YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED A COUPLE OF TIMES THE SAFETY, UM, PRECAUTIONS THAT YOU HAVE PUT IN PLACE.

I HAVE VISITED, UM, THE SHOPPING CENTER WHEN IT WAS REQUESTED.

I SHOP THERE OFTEN.

I LOVE THAT SHOPRITE, I GO TO ALL THE DIFFERENT SHOPPING CENTERS, BUT I ALWAYS LOVE THAT SHOPPING CENTER.

AND YES, AS TO COUNCILMAN, UH, HENDRICKS MENTIONED, IT IS A LITTLE CRAZY, BUT WHAT YOU HAD DESCRIBED, YOU'RE PUTTING A PLAN IN PLACE AND YOU HAVE TO GIVE THAT PLAN AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK.

SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING REVENUE INTO THAT SHOPPING CENTER, AND YOU'RE NOT JUST BRINGING SOMEONE IN AND LEAVING AS STATUS QUO, YOU ARE MAKING IT SO IT IS CONDUCIVE TO THE NEW SPACE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BRING TO THIS AREA.

SO I'M JUST, I'M NOT, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, UM, OF THE CONCERN THAT, UM, SUPERVISOR FINER HAS, BECAUSE YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED MY OPINION, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO AT THIS POINT.

NO ONE CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GONNA GO INTO A PANDEMIC TWO YEARS AGO, BUT WE WENT INTO ONE.

BUT IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUR EMPTY SPACES, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY WE WOULD NOT TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE MAKING THE ALLOWANCES OR MAKING THE CHANGES THAT YOU ARE MAKING.

SO I GUESS I'M, FOR ME, SUPERVISOR, FIND OUT, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT DIRECTION OR WHAT MORE YOU'RE ASKING AN APPLICANT TO DO.

THEY HAVE COME TO US NUMEROUS TIMES AND, AND HAS, ADJUST, HAS ADDRESSED EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT THAT WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO ADDRESS.

SO NOW WE ARE, WHY WOULD, WHY WOULD WE NOT GIVE AN APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE SUFFERING WITH? BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SAID THAT I OBJECT TO RESTAURANTS.

I THINK EVERYBODY HERE

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I KNOW FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES SHOPPING THERE FREQUENTLY THAT IT'S A MADHOUSE THERE.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT SHOPPING CENTER, UM, WHEN I GO THERE, UM, EVEN LATE AT NIGHT WHEN I GO HOME, SOMETIMES AT A TOWN BOARD MEETING, EVEN AT 10 30, I SEE NEAR ACCIDENTS.

SO THE THING IS, I FEEL THAT THE LE I PERSONALLY AM WORRIED, UM, THAT IF WE ELIMINATE THE PARKING SPOTS, UM, THAT IT'S GONNA BASICALLY AND HAVE LESS PARKING THERE, THAT IT'S GONNA BE WORSE RATHER THAN BETTER.

NOW, I'M, I'M TRYING TO COME, I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH LIKE, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD SOME IDEA IS THAT WHERE I'M NOT BEING OBSTRUCTIONISTS, BUT I'M BASICALLY SAYING MAYBE, MAYBE THERE'S SOME COMPROMISES.

MAYBE WE COULD TEST SOMETHING OUT.

UH, BECAUSE ONCE YOU GIVE THEM APPROVAL, IT'S, THEY GOT THE APPROVALS FOR GOOD.

AND, AND AGAIN, EVERY TIME I'M DRIVING THERE, AND THE LAST TIME WAS YESTERDAY, YOU KNOW, I SEE NEAR ACCIDENTS THERE ALMOST EVERY TIME THAT I'M THERE.

RESPECTFULLY, MR. SUPERVISOR, I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE PUTTING A SQUARE P TRYING TO PUT A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE BECAUSE THE WHOLE TRAFFIC PATTERN WILL BE CHANGED.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED, WE'RE YOU'RE IMPOSING WHAT EXISTS ON WHAT THE, THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE, WHICH IS NOT ONLY AS, AS COUNCILWOMAN, UM, AS, AS J COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON, I ALMOST CALLED YOU COUNCILWOMAN JONES, SORRY.

AS COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON SUGGESTED, THERE'S THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASPECT, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT, THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS, WHICH LOOK VERY LOGICAL TO ME, WILL BE ADJUSTED HAVING ONE-WAY TRAFFIC PATTERNS, HAVING THE STOP SIGNS.

HA.

BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE AS IT STANDS NOW, IT'S A FREE FOR ALL.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS SEEING YESTERDAY WHEN I STOPPED BY.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASING YOUR CONCERNS ON THAT FREE FOR ALL THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING THAT.

EXACTLY.

WE'RE LOOKING TO CHANNEL TRAFFIC IN A WAY WHERE PEDESTRIANS CROSSING THE STREET AREN'T GONNA HAVE CARS COMING FROM BOTH SIDES.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF TWO-WAY AISLES AND, AND INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ONE-WAY AISLES AS WELL AS PROVIDING PROTECTED PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS IN MULTIPLE PLACES CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE REVIEWED WITH YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, YOUR PLANNING BOARD, AND YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND THIS BOARD.

AND WE THINK IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT.

ALTHOUGH WE, WE, WITH DUE RESPECT, SUBMIT, THIS IS NOT AN UNSAFE SHOPPING CENTER.

THIS IS A SHOPPING CENTER THAT CAN BE MADE MORE SAFE.

AND OUR TRAFFIC, OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT CONFIRMED THAT AS WELL.

I I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON MY POSITION, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ROOM FOR US TO DO COMMENTS TO IMPROVE THE SHOPPING CENTER, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WE GOT FROM THE E C C, BUT I THINK WE LOST THAT WHEN THE SUPERVISOR ASKED FOR SIDEWALK, WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC PATTERN OR HOW HAZARDOUS THE PARKING LOT IS ITSELF, AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM THE POINT OF VIEW THAT IF WE WERE TO BE SUED BY YOU, I THINK WE WOULD LOSE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF THE RECORD THAT HAS BEEN CREATED.

BECAUSE ASKING YOU AND HOLDING OVER THESE HEARINGS, HEARING AFTER HEARING AND HEARING, AND THEN TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN WOULD BE MITIGATED IF YOU GAVE US A SIDEWALK, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITHOUT HAZARD, THAT PARKING LOT IS NOW, WE'RE FACED WITH HAVING THAT RECORD AND US HAVING TO DECIDE DO WE IMPROVE SAFETY, IMPROVE, UH, IMPROVE THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS OR NOT.

AND I THINK IF WE DO NOT, AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SUCCESSFUL CHALLENGE.

AND I DON'T NORMALLY SPEAK THIS WAY FROM THE DAIS, BUT AT SOME POINT, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

FRONT OF, UM, IN FRONT OF THEIR LOCATION FOR MANY, MANY DECADES.

, LET ME JUST SAY WHY I THINK YOU'RE WRONG.

UH, AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE WE'VE ASKED FOR SIDEWALKS FROM MANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AROUND, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE TOWN.

THE CHELSEA, FOR EXAMPLE, WE REQUIRED THEM TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR COMPLEX, UM, ON DUFFS FERRY ROAD, UM, UH, WHERE THE BRIGHTVIEW IS GOING.

THEY'RE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN

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WE HAVE ALWAYS REQUIRED, UM, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS FROM, FROM DEVELOPERS.

WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT FOR YEARS.

UM, ON FREIGHT AND LANE, UM, UH, THERE'S A, A LITTLE BIT OF A A, A SIDEWALK, UM, THAT'S A, A DEVELOPMENT NEAR THE ARDSLEY, UH, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE SCHOOL.

I COULD, I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON.

YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS COMPLEX, UM, IF WE COULD GET PEOPLE TO WALK FROM FORT HILL, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, WHO LIVE, UM, IN SOUTHERN GREENVILLE, UH, WHO LIVE OFF OF LEY ROAD.

AND IF WE COULD GET PEOPLE TO WALK TO THE SHOPPING CENTER, UH, THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE, REDUCE THE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE PARKING, UM, AT THE SHOPPING CENTER.

SO IF WE'RE REDUCING THE PARKING BY OVER LIKE 47 SPOTS, AND WE GET 47 PEOPLE TO WALK TO THE COMPLEX, WHICH I THINK THEY WOULD, THAT WOULD REDUCE SOME, UH, THAT WOULD OFFSET WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL, I PASSED THE BAR, AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD'VE WON A LAWSUIT IF WE REQUIRED IT.

AND I THINK THAT THE TOWNHOUSE TO FIGHT, WE HAVE TO BE SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE.

WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

AND I FEEL THAT, UM, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, JUST BECAUSE A DEVELOPER SAYS I WANT SOMETHING, DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A CAR BLANCHE AND GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW, AND WE ALL KNOW, ANYBODY WHO'S GONE THERE KNOWS THAT THIS IS A, IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM.

AND IF YOU GIVE THEM THE APPROVALS BEFORE WE, WITHOUT, AND WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T EVEN TESTED IT OUT.

WE'RE JUST RELYING ON, UM, ON, UH, CONSULTANTS.

IF THEY'RE WRONG, THEN THE PEOPLE IN GREENBERG ARE GONNA BE SCREWED, SCREWED, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A COMPLEX THAT IS LESS SAFE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY CONCERN.

AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL, LET'S FIGHT FOR THE RESIDENTS.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A SIDEWALK.

BUT I THINK THAT, UM, GARRETT TOLD US THAT THERE WERE SOME HURDLES TO THAT LAST WEEK.

GARRETT COULD, ARE YOU STILL THERE? CAN YOU GO OVER THAT AGAIN? YES.

NO, WE, WE DID CONDUCT A SITE VISIT, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT AND, UH, SOMEONE FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT MYSELF, AND WE CONCLUDED THAT THE GRADES OF DRIVEWAYS LEADING TO LEY ROAD PRECLUDED AN A D A COMPLIANCE SIDEWALK IN THE, UH, RIGHT TOWN RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, AND WE TRIED TO GET CREATIVE AND WE EXPLORED OTHER OPTIONS SUCH AS, UH, POTENTIALLY, UH, REDUCING THE WIDTH BY A FOOT OF EACH OF THE LANES LEADING UP.

BUT THERE ARE LOOPS IN THE GROUND, AND I WAS TOLD THAT THAT WOULDN'T WORK.

UM, AND THEN IT, WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE ONLY REAL WAY TO AFFECT A SIDEWALK FROM THEIR DRIVEWAY DOWN, UM, IN AN EASTERLY DIRECTION TO CENTRAL PARK AVENUE ON ARLEY ROAD WOULD BE TO GO TO THE EXTREME MEASURE TO PROPOSE TO REMOVE A LANE SO AS TO PUT A, A AN A D A COMPLIANT SIDEWALK THERE.

AND, UM, THAT JUST DID NOT MELD WITH THE TRAFFIC VOLUME THAT'S EXPERIENCED OUT THERE.

SO, UM, WHILE YES, A SIDEWALK, UM, WOULD BE GOOD AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, IT, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY ENGINEERING AND FEASIBLE PER, PER THE SITE VISIT OF THE PROFESSIONALS THAT I WAS WITH ON THAT MEETING.

UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY, YES, THAT WAS A CONCLUSION THAT WE DREW.

I JUST, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

UH, I, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR BECAUSE I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SIDEWALKS.

YES.

I VOTED FOR SIDEWALKS, RIGHT? THERE'S A TIME AND A PLACE FOR SIDEWALKS WHEN OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF SAY TO US, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO PUT THERE WITHOUT TAKING TURNING LANE.

YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA GO OVER IN THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE OUT ONE OF THE LANES AT THAT INTERSECTION.

MY POINT IS THAT IF YOUR FOCUS ALL ALONG HAS BEEN HOW, LET'S GO AND GO TO THE SHOPPING CENTER AND WATCH HOW HAZARDOUS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE.

IF YOU WANTED TO PROPOSE THROUGH OUR CONSULTANT, OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WHO AGREES WITH THIS PLAN, ANOTHER REASON WHY WE WOULD LOSE, WHO AGREES WITH THIS PLAN, AND YOU PUT FORWARD, WELL, MAYBE A, A STOP SIGN HERE OR SOMETHING THERE IN THE PARKING LOT, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, BUT YOU HAVE, YOU BASICALLY ABANDONED THAT AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT THEM PAYING FOR A SIDEWALK, WHICH IS NOT FEASIBLE TO PUT IN.

AND SINCE THIS IS NOW, I DON'T KNOW, ARE WE UP TO NUMBER FIVE NOW? I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HEARINGS WE'VE HAD ON THIS NOW, SOMEWHERE IN THAT NUMBER.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT IS THE NEXT OBSTACLE? BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT RELUCTANTLY,

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UH, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I'D RATHER HAVE IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT WHEN YOU GO TO THE SHOPPING CENTER, YOU DON'T SEE THESE NEAR ACCIDENTS AND THESE CONFLICT POINTS, UH, THAN TO JUST LET THIS GO ON AND ON.

EVEN THOUGH THE TESTIMONY FROM THE MINUTES OF THE PLANNING BOARD QUESTIONS THAT THEY ASKED WERE NEVER ANSWERED BY THE APPLICANT, THE PLANNING BOARD DID NOT HAVE PUBLIC DISCUSSION.

AND GOD FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENS WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE IN THE DISCUSSION HERE OF GOING INTO A SIXTH, SEVENTH, EIGHTH OR NINTH, AND, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'RE GOING INTO THE SUMMER, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO SAY, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF ALL OF YOU AND, AND THE CONCERNS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, EARLIER IN THIS YEAR, WHEN WE FIRST PROPOSED CONVERTING THE DRESS BARN BUILDING TO THESE TWO RESTAURANT USES, WE WERE TOLD BY THE PLANNING BOARD WE NEEDED TO IMPROVE THE CIRCULATION PATTERN AT THE SHOPPING CENTER.

AND WE WEREN'T COMBATIVE ABOUT THAT.

WE, WE, WE ROLLED UP OUR SLEEVES AND WE ANALYZED DEEPLY WHAT WE COULD DO AND HOW MUCH WE COULD DO.

AND I THINK WE CAME UP WITH A VERY GOOD PLAN.

AND YOUR TRAFFIC, UH, CONSULTANT CONCURS, AS DID THE PLANNING BOARD, WE MADE MAJOR CHANGES INTERNAL TO THE SITE.

IT'S OVER A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK, HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INTERIOR OF, OF THE, UH, OF THE BUILDINGS.

WE, WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO GREENBURG TO MEETING YOUR CONCERNS, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS A BETTER SHOPPING CENTER THAN IT IS.

WE NEED YOUR VOTES TO MAKE IT THAT WAY, BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T CHANGE THE PATTERNS INSIDE, UH, WITHOUT THE FUNDING STREAM OR WITHOUT THE APPROVAL FOR THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.

WE STILL WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SHARED PARKING REDUCTION ANALYSIS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD NEEDS TO DO, WHICH WE THINK WE'VE MET BY WAY OF STANDARDS, BUT IT'S NOT OUR DECISION.

IT'S THE PLANNING BOARD'S DECISION, AND WE STILL NEED TO GET, UH, THE, THE, UM, SPECIAL PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THAT PARTICULAR RESTAURANT USE.

BUT THE FIRST STEP ALONG THE WAY IS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU AS LEAD AGENCY ADOPTING AN ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION WHEN YOU GET THERE AND GRANTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL, WHICH WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU DO.

ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK? THERE'S NOBODY ON ZOOM, I THINK THERE, I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS WHO WON'T SPEAK.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, HOW SAMIS AND THEN AFTER HAL SAMIS, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS.

WELL, THERE'LL BE A SECOND FIVE MINUTE ROUND.

WELL, UH, UH, FRANCIS, IF THIS WENT TO COURT, WE'D HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE APPLICANT BEING HONEST OR NOT, AND GOING BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, NOT CITING THE CORRECT NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THERE RULES AGAINST HIM.

FURTHERMORE, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE REAL ESTATE LEASING COMMUNITY WHO WOULD'VE TESTIFIED TO THEIR EXPERIENCE IN TRYING TO RENT THE DRESS BARN SPACE.

WE'RE ALL ASSUMING THAT NO ONE IN THE WORLD WANTED TO RENT THAT SPACE FOR THREE YEARS.

SHOPPING CENTER DECIDED WHO THEY WANTED TO RENT TO AND WHAT USE THEY WANTED TO MAKE OF IT.

SO LET'S NOT CRY THE POVERTY ACT NOW, SPECIFICALLY, GEE, THERE'S KEN JONES.

GO ON.

UM, SHARED PARKING, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS AS A CONCEPT.

BUT HERE YOU HAVE AN EXISTING SITE WHERE THERE ARE ALREADY THREE RESTAURANTS, ONE ON FLANKING THAT ON EITHER SIDE OF YOUR RE BARN AND PIZZA HUTT, YOU WANNA ADD TWO MORE? ALL OF THESE RESTAURANTS HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON.

PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE EATING AT THE SAME TIME.

YOU ARE GONNA INCREASE THE PAR TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION IN THIS AREA.

THE TOTAL PARKING FOR THIS SITE, IF YOU GO TO THE SOUTH END OF THE PARKING, IF YOU GO TO THE ROOFTOPS EMPTY, SO GOING AGAINST THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES ON THIS IS INFANTILE WHEN YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE AREA WHERE THE MOST TRAFFIC PEDESTRIANS WILL BE, WHICH IS IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA.

FURTHERMORE, WE PAID FOR THESE CONSULTANTS, BUT THEY'RE OPERATING AS A TEAM FOR THE DEVELOPER.

OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT THIS THING THROUGH.

SO WITH ALL THE MITIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, SAFETY PROBLEMS, THEY ALL OCCUR AS A RESULT OF THE LAST OCCASIONS WHEN THIS APPLICANT WAS BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD, THE TA, THE CONSULTANTS ALL SAID, HERE, THIS IS OUR PLAN TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

EACH TIME THEY'VE GONE BEFORE THE TOWN FOR A REDUCTION IN PARKING SPACES.

SO THEY HAVEN'T SOLVED IT YET, BUT THEY WANT TO SOLVE IT AGAIN, AND THEY WANT TO DO IT ON A PERMANENT BASIS, BECAUSE ONCE YOU TAKE THE PARKING SPACES AWAY, THEY'LL NEVER COME BACK.

NOW, THE PLANNING BOARD LET THE TOWN DOWN.

THEY TOOK THIS APPLICATION IN JUNE, JULY, AND FINALLY YOU MADE A CONCLUSION IN THE SEPTEMBER MONTHS,

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THEY WRAPPED THIS THING UP VERY QUICKLY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE APPLICANT.

NOW THE PROBLEM HERE IS 3,200 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR PARKING.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE TALK ABOUT THAT.

WHY OUTDOOR DINING DOES THAT NOT GONNA HAVE SOME EFFECT.

THEY WANNA HAVE OUTDOOR DINING.

WHY DO THEY WANNA HAVE OUTDOOR DINING? BECAUSE THERE, HOPEFULLY THERE'S A TENANT THAT WANTS OUTDOOR DINING AND THERE WILL BE TABLES, PEOPLE WILL BE ATTENDING AND USING THIS OUTDOOR SPACE FOR DINING.

THAT'S MORE THAN JUST THE TWO SPACES IN THE DRESS BARN BUILDING, WHICH THE APPLICANT TELLS US NO ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE 3,200 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR DINING AREA.

IS THAT NOT GONNA HAVE SOME EFFECT? ALL THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE HAVE BEEN DONE WHILE THE DRESS BAR IN SPACE HAS BEEN EMPTY.

SO HOW CAN YOU CALCULATE WHAT IT WOULD BE WHEN THESE PLACES ARE OPEN AND FUNCTIONING DRONES? DO THEY HANG OVER THE AREA FOR 20 MINUTES IN THE ONE SPOT, OR DO THEY JUST FLY OVER, SNAP THEIR PICTURE? THE IDEA OF HAVING A SITE VISIT WAS A GOOD ONE BY MR. FINER.

HOW OFTEN DO I AGREE WITH HIM? BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S TAKEN A VERY ACTIVE POSITION HERE, AND THE REST OF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SO RESPONSIVE.

YOU KNOW, I'VE RAISED THE POINT REPEATEDLY THAT HERE'S A TOWN COUNCIL, WHICH HAS PAID ROUGHLY $53,000 SALARY PLUS THE INSURANCE BUYOUT, DECIDED THEY WANTED TO RUN FOR THIS OFFICE, AND YET OVER THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS, WORK SESSIONS, AND LIKE BACK AND FORTH.

WELL, I CAN'T MAKE IT NOW.

I CAN MAKE IT THEN I CAN'T MAKE IT.

THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PUBLIC, YOU GET OUR PAYCHECKS, IT'S YOUR JOB, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE TO TOGETHER AS A GROUP, SEEING WHAT THE PARKING SITUATION IS ACTUALLY LIKE, NOT WHEN YOU INDIVIDUALLY CHOSE TO GO, IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

MURIEL, IS IT MURIEL? UM, YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL HANDWRITING, BUT I CANNOT MAKE OUT YOUR LAST NAME.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT.

BEFORE YOU BEGIN, PLEASE STATE IT, PLEASE.

I I I JUST WANNA FINISH MY POINT.

SURE.

PLEASE STATE IT FOR THIS STENOGRAPHER.

I WILL, BUT BEFORE YOU DO, I JUST WANT TO MENTION, I DON'T WANT IT TO STAY ON THE RECORD IF THERE IS A TRANSCRIPT, OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT IS NOT PART OF THEIR TEAM.

MR. CANNING IS EXTREMELY INDEPENDENT IN HIS ANALYSES.

WE KNOW THAT FROM OTHER PROJECTS HE'S WORKED ON, HE IS PAID BY THE APPLICANT, BUT WE SELECT HIM BECAUSE OF HIS INDEPENDENCE.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

REGARDING THE PREVIOUS COMMENT, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

TRAFFIC HAS GROWN EXPONENTIALLY.

I, UH, AL ANI, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU LATER.

AGAIN, UM, I LIVE IN SOUTHERN GREENVILLE.

I LITERALLY LIVE ABOVE MIDWAY IN CA ON CASTLE WALK.

UH, AND I'VE BEEN HERE IN SOUTHERN GREENVILLE SINCE 1998.

SO I HAVE WITNESSED THE CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS WANTED.

UM, SO I'VE A WRITTEN STATEMENT THROUGH THE YEARS.

MIDWAY HAS SLOWLY AND INCREMENTALLY CAJOLED AND PUSHED THE PLANNING, ZONING AND TOWN BOARDS TO LET THEM EXPAND ONLY A LITTLE, JUST A LITTLE AT A TIME, A FEW THOUSAND FEET HERE, A FEW PARKING SPOTS THERE, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE HURTING FINANCIALLY, BUT PRETTY MUCH 95% TO 97% OF THAT, THAT SHOPPING CENTER IS OCCUPIED.

SO IT'S NOT A HUGE FINANCIAL BURDEN TO THEM THAT THEY CLAIM EVERY TIME.

UM, EVERY TIME THIS BOARD DIFFERENT MEMBERS, UM, NEGOTIATES, BUT EVENTUALLY GIVES INTO THE MIDWAY DEVELOPERS AND LETS THEM CHISEL AWAY A FEW PARKING SPOTS AT A TIME, AND GRANTS JUST TINY VARIANCES HERE AND THERE, UH, TO HELP GREENBURG RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN SOUTHERN GREENVILLE BE BENEFICIARIES OF THEIR SHOPPING CENTER.

MEANWHILE, WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED TO TRAFFIC IN OUR REGION AND ALSO ON CENTRAL AVENUE.

PEOPLE ARE DRIVING A LOT MORE RECKLESSLY, AND THERE IS DEFINITELY INSUFFICIENT PARKING IN

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MIDWAY.

UM, I CAN'T GO AND SHOP AT SHOPRITE OFTEN ENOUGH BECAUSE IT IS SO BACKED UP AND I'M SCARED OF DRIVING THERE AND THEN CROSSING ACROSS.

SO I END UP GOING TO YONKERS.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YONKERS AND PARKING.

THE, THE, THERE'S SMALLER PARKING SPACES OVER THERE.

I ACTUALLY GO TO YONKERS BECAUSE THE SHOPPING CENTERS HAVE BIGGER PARKING LOTS, AND IT'S SAFER TO PARK FOR ME THERE IN YONKERS THAN IT IS TO GO IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD TO MY SHOPRITE.

I CAN'T EVEN WALK DOWN TO ON, ON LEY ROAD.

I LITERALLY LIVE OF, IF I WERE TO WALK DOWN, IT'S A FIVE MINUTE, SEVEN MINUTE WALK.

I TAKE MY CAR, ALL OF US IN EDMONT SIT AND DRIVE ALL THE WAY THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE.

AND I KNOW MR. FINE, YOU SUBMITTED MY LETTER, WHICH WAS REALLY NOT MEANT TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN BOARD.

IT WAS JUST AN INITIAL DISCUSSION.

UM, AND YES, I DO REALIZE THAT THE TOWN CAN'T ASK THE DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR A SIDEWALK.

IT'S PART OF THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED SAFETY.

WE NEED SAFETY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OUR KIDS OR FOR US TO WALK.

HOW OFTEN DO I SEE CARS LITERALLY CUT ACROSS THE PARKING LOTS IN IN SHOP IN NEAR SHOPRITE? A LOT OF TIMES I PERSONALLY HAVE STOPPED MY CAR TO HELP AN ELDERLY PERSON TAKE THEIR GROCERIES AND LITERALLY HELP THEIR CAR TO THEIR, TO THEIR CAR, BECAUSE PARKING IS A NIGHTMARE.

UH, AND PEOPLE, THEY GET FRUSTRATED.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE COME LATER, THE EVENINGS, THEY'RE FRUSTRATED, THEY DON'T FIND THE PARKING SPOT, AND THEY'LL JUST CUT.

SO WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK OUT AND, AND, AND I REALIZE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, SUGGESTING SOME NEW TRAFFIC PATTERNS, BUT WE LIVE HERE, RIGHT? I LIVE HERE.

I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO SHOPRITE AND NOT WORRY THAT I'M GONNA GET RUN OVER OR LET MY GROWN KIDS ALSO WALK AROUND THERE, UH, GO TO A PANERA, WHATEVER YOU CROSS.

IT'S A NIGHTMARE THERE.

SO I REALIZE WHAT SITUATION YOU GUYS ARE IN, BUT WE LIVE IN THAT VICINITY.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND IN MY SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, I'M SORRY THAT YOU'VE GOT LIMITED SPACE AND THAT I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO EXPAND EVEN MORE RESTAURANTS, SHOPS, BUT YOU'VE GOT A FINITE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT'S JUST TOO BAD.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE KEEP GIVING INTO YOU WITH PARKING SPOTS, WITH EX EXTRA AREAS THAT YOU WANT TO GROW.

IT'S LIMITED SPACE IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, I THINK ALL OF YOU REALLY CARE FOR US.

I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT YOU GUYS LOOK OUT FOR OUR SAFETY, LOOK OUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WALK SAFELY, OUR RESIDENTS, EVEN PEOPLE COMING FROM OTHER TOWNS IN THE NEIGHBORING AREA TO SHOP AT SHOPRITE SHOULD FEEL SAFE, AND THE TRAFFIC FLOWS MIGHT IMPROVE A LITTLE.

SO LET'S SEE HOW THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS IMPROVE WITH THE SUGGESTIONS THEY'RE DOING.

AND IF IT WORKS AND LOOKS BETTER, THEN WE SHOULD GIVE THE PERMIT FOR EXPANSION OF RESTAURANTS.

LET'S FIRST ASK THEM TO GET THESE CHANGES DONE.

WE ALL KNOW IT'S A NIGHTMARE.

UM, AND, UH, WHAT ELSE? UM, UH, AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, WE TEND TO DO THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES, UH, AT TIMES THAT ARE VERY CONVENIENT TO A DEVELOPER.

THEY'RE NOT REALISTIC.

THEY SHOULD BE DONE.

LIKE LITERALLY, MR. FINE SAID THIS PAST WEEKEND, OR HOW ABOUT THIS WEEK WHEN THANKSGIVING, EVERYONE IS OUT SHOPPING AND RUNNING AROUND LIKE CHICKENS.

THANK YOU YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SINCE YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK THERE.

WHEN THAT OCCURS, DO YOU FIND THEM PARKING ON YOUR STREET OR ANY OTHER STREET OTHER THAN THE SHOP SHOP? WELL, THEY CAN'T PARK IN OUR STREET WHERE I'M IN CASTLE WALK, WHICH IS, THERE'S NOTHING TO CONNECT.

BUT WHAT I'VE NOTICED IS, SO WHAT HAPPENS? PEOPLE WILL DOUBLE PARK, OKAY? OUTSIDE THE SHOPPING CENTER, ANY STORES, IF THEY'RE GOING AND YOU, YOU CAN HONK OR WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT THEY, PEOPLE JUST DOUBLE PARK AND THEY DON'T CARE.

THEY DON'T CARE THAT THERE'S AN ELDERLY PERSON WHO NEEDS TO CROSS THE CROSS OR A WOMAN WITH CHILDREN AND A CART, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.

AND I DO REAL, I FEEL BAD THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE SPACE.

I WISH THEY HAD A BIGGER SHOPPING CENTER, SQUARE FOOTAGE, THEY COULD PUT IN 10 RESTAURANTS, BUT WE'RE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE SHOULD BE COMPROMISED AND OUR SAFETY SHOULD BE COMPROMISED JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE HURTING A LITTLE.

I'M SORRY, YOU SAID OUTSIDE THE SHOPPING CENTER, DID YOU MEAN IN THE SHOPPING CENTER, OUTSIDE THE STORES, PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PARK FAR AWAY.

THEY WANT TO PARK WHERE THEY WANT TO EAT OR THEY WANT TO SHOP, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU WOULD DO THE SAME.

I I WOULD DO THE SAME.

UH, YES.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

SO I HAVE SEEN, I HAVE LITERALLY

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SEEN PICKUP TRUCKS.

I KNOW, I I, I'M SORRY.

PUT FLASHES ON.

I, I ASKED YOUR A QUESTION.

IF YOU, IF YOU CONTINUE, THEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS GOING TO SAY YES.

NO, NO, NO.

I JUST ASKED YOU A QUESTION.

I, I, I'VE JUST LIVED HERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, 26 YEARS.

AND I PERSONALLY, I GET SO FRUSTRATED, THEN I'LL JUST DRIVE OFF AND GO TO YONKERS STORE TO, TO THE STORE.

I JUST HAD A, A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

I THOUGHT YOUR COMMENT WAS ACTUALLY, SO ON TARGET, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID LET THEM MAKE THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FIRST, AND THEN IF IT WORKS IN IT, THEN GIVE THEM THE APPROVALS.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE TOWN WHO DOESN'T WANT THE SHOPPING CENTER NOT TO SUCCEED.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, I WOULD LOVE IT IF THERE'S TWO NEW RESTAURANTS THERE.

I WOULD LOVE IT IF THERE'D BE ZERO VACANCIES.

SO WE ALL WANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE WANT SMART ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THE QUESTION I HAVE OF, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS SORT OF A FOLLOW UP TO YOUR COMMENTS, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS LIKE, REALLY SO FANTASTIC.

ARE THERE ANY, UM, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU COULD MAKE ALMOST LIKE IMMEDIATELY, UH, WHERE WE COULD SORT OF GET A SET WHERE WE COULD CHANGE SORT OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC PATTERNS NOW AND THEN TEST IT OUT? AND THEN IF IT TURNS OUT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE WORKING REALLY NICE, THEN YOU COULD MAKE THE MORE EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, UM, THINGS, AND, AND, AND THIS WAY AT LEAST WE COULD TRY OUT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT MAY NOT BE, THAT MAY NOT COST YOU A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT COULD DO SOMETHING.

MR. SHEHAN ASKS, RESPONDING TO YOU WHAT YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOR SAFETY, WHAT IF THEY PUT THOSE LITTLE BITY BARRICADES AND THEY HAVE, WE, WE JUST START IT, WE WE TEST IT OUT? DO THEY DO THAT? I MEAN, IN OTHER, OTHER SHOPPING CENTERS, THEY HAVE THOSE LITTLE, WHAT, EIGHT INCH HIGH LITTLE BARRIERS BETWEEN WHEN CARS, BUT SO THEY CAN'T ZIP ACROSS PARKING LOTS, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS VERY OFTEN.

THIS, WELL, WE ALSO HAVE, IN THIS CENTER, WE ALSO HAVE OUR SAFETY CONSULTANT ACTUALLY COMING IN THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ASK THAT QUESTION, YOU KNOW OF THEM.

WELL, HE'S RIGHT HERE.

HE'S GONNA ANSWER IT.

THAT'S YOU.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING TO THE SAFETY CONSULTANT.

NO, NOT YET.

UM, IF IT WORKS, GRANT YOU THE APPROVALS, AND THEN YOU, AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T WORK, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT TOGETHER WHAT WE DO, UM, FOR THOSE TWO VACANT STORES.

HE'S COMING IN.

UM, THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING ARE SUBSTANTIAL.

THEY'RE NOT SIMPLE.

THEY, THEY WON'T WORK IF YOU DO A PIECEMEAL APPROACH TO IT, IT, IT, IT'S ELIMINATING A LANE.

A A, UH, IT'S CHANGING THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE AND EXIT AT ARLEY ROAD IS ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE CHANGES PIECEMEAL AND, AND, AND STAND BY IT AS BEING EFFECTIVE.

AND THE FUNDING FOR MAKING THOSE CHANGES IS BEING ABLE TO REOCCUPY THE DRESS BARN BUILDING, WHICH AS I'VE SAID REPEATEDLY, HAS BEEN VACANT FOR THREE YEARS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IN ANY PARKING LOT IS IF SOMEONE'S GONNA IGNORE WHERE THE STRIPES ARE AND DRIVE THROUGH PARKING SPACES, IT'S NOT GONNA BE SAFE.

SO, HOWEVER YOU LAY IT OUT WITH PARKING SPACES AND DRIVE AISLES, IF SOMEONE'S GONNA PULL THROUGH A PARKING SPACE AND GO OUT THE OTHER SIDE AND NOT LOOK WHERE THE CARS ARE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A SAFE SITUATION.

SO WE, WE, WE CAN'T STAND BEHIND PEOPLE NOT OBSERVING THE DIRECTIONS AND NOT PARKING WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PARK AND INSISTING ON PARKING IN, IN AREAS NOT DELINEATED AS PARKING SPACES.

WHAT WE STUDIED ISN'T PARKING ELSEWHERE IN, ON THE SITE, AS WAS SUGGESTED BY SOMEONE WHO SPOKE TONIGHT.

UM, WE, WE STUDIED THE, THE PARKING FIELDS THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO WHERE THE RESTAURANTS WERE.

WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T SAY, OH, WELL, THERE'S PARKING SPACE DOWN IN THE SOUTH END OF THE LOT, AND THEREFORE THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE.

AND THAT ANALYSIS WAS GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE TIMES FOR THIS BOARD.

WE CAN GO THROUGH IT ANOTHER TIME WITH YOUR, YOUR PARKING CONSULTANT, TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A WAY TO ENSURE THAT IF SOMEONE'S GONNA DRIVE RECKLESSLY, THAT YOU CAN STRIPE IT IN A WAY WHERE THEY'LL BE SAFE IF THEY DRIVE RECKLESSLY.

THE, THE, THE QUESTION, THE THING THAT, THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, WE APPROVE LOTS OF DEVELOPMENTS EVERY, EVERY YEAR, AND WE ALWAYS REQUIRE A DEVELOPER TO MAKE THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FIRST BEFORE THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FIRST.

UM, SO THE THING IS, UM, WHY CAN'T YOU DO THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS? AND THEN THEY, AND THEN AFTER YOU DO THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, WE TEST IT OUT.

AND IF, IF IT, IF IT, IF IT'S REALLY GREAT, THEN WE ALL WOULD GO ALONG ENTHUSIASTICALLY, MR. AND LET YOU DO WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WANT.

YOU, YOU, YOU'D BE TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF A RISK, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SO CONFIDENT THAT IT'S GONNA WORK, UM, THAT YOU KNOW THAT BY TIME, ONCE, ONCE IT'S, ONCE YOU MADE THE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU COME IN AND THEN WE QUICKLY,

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I MEAN, I, I JUST DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU, IF THE SUPERVISOR WITH DUE RESPECT, THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE PROCESS TYPICALLY WORKS.

THE PROCESS IS AN APPROVAL FOR A SITE PLAN WITH BUILDINGS OR WITH THE USES AS WE'VE PROPOSED.

IT'S NOT MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS, BUILD A, BUILD A PARKING LOT, AND THEN WE'LL TELL YOU IF YOU CAN HAVE ANY BUILDINGS IN THE PARKING LOT, WE NEED TO KNOW IN ORDER TO GET THE FUNDING FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE USE IS THERE THAT'S GONNA PAY FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND, AND WHAT WE PROPOSED IS IMPROVEMENTS THAT WORK WITH THE USES THAT WE'VE PROPOSED, AS HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED BY YOUR CONSULTANTS AND YOUR PLANNING BOARD.

WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S OUT OF LINE WITH WHAT IS TYPICAL AND FRANKLY, WHAT'S LAID OUT IN YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

WE'RE ASKING FOR THE APPROVALS FOR THE SITE PLAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCLUDE REALIGNMENT OF, OF THE DRIVE AISLES AND, AND COORDINATION OF THE PARKING SPACES.

THE OUTDOOR DINING, BY THE WAY, IS SOMETHING THAT, PARTICULARLY PANDEMIC RELATED IS SOMETHING THAT MOST EVERY RESTAURANT WANTS.

AND MOST RESTAURANTS WILL SAY THAT THE OUTDOOR DINING, WHEN, WHEN IT'S COMFORTABLE TO SIT OUT THERE, IS THE PRIORITY DINING.

AND PEOPLE WON'T SIT INSIDE.

AND MOST MUNICIPALITIES RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S RARE TO HAVE A FULL RESTAURANT INSIDE AND A FULL RESTAURANT ON THE OUTDOOR DINING.

THE PEOPLE WILL PREFER TO EAT OUTSIDE.

THE REASON FOR THE OUTDOOR DINING IS PARTICULARLY PANDEMIC RELATED.

MOST RESTAURANTS WANT SOME OUTDOOR DINING AREA BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING ME AND A LOT OF MY FRIENDS WHO WILL SAY, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GOING TO A RESTAURANT IF IT DOESN'T HAVE OUTDOOR SEATING WHEN THE WEATHER'S ADEQUATE FOR THAT.

SO IT DOESN'T, WE'VE ANALYZED THE PARKING, UM, FOR THE RESTAURANTS IN THE MANNER THAT'S ACCEPTED, PROTOCOL FOR ANALYZING RESTAURANT PARKING.

AND THAT, AS I SAID BEFORE, HAS BEEN VALIDATED AND VETTED BY YOUR CONSULTANTS, UH, MR. CANNING.

YES, SIR.

EARLIER THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT YOU WORKED AS PART OF THE APPLICANT'S TEAM, AND I HAD STATED THAT YOU DID YOUR OWN INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS.

UH, COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW YOU APPROACH, UH, THE DOING THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WHEN THE TOWN RETAINS YOU AND THE APPLICANT PAYS FOR IT? CERTAINLY.

UH, COUNCILMAN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.

I THINK, UH, AS YOUR MIC, YOU NEED TO SPEAK CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE.

YEAH, THAT HELPS.

PARDON ME? SORRY.

UH, I'M LISTENING ON SPEAKER.

UM, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN SHEEN.

UH, I, I WAS NOT HAPPY TO HEAR THAT STATEMENT.

UM, IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO THE PROCESS THAT THE TOWN'S CONSULTANT BE INDEPENDENT.

UH, WE ARE PAID BY THE TOWN FROM AN ESCROW FUND THAT IS ESTABLISHED.

UM, SO, UM, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE'RE EMPLOYED BY THE TOWN.

WE HAVE THE, UH, SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF THE CITIZENS OF THE TOWN AT HEART.

UH, WHEN AN APPLICATION COMES BEFORE US, WE CONSULT WITH TOWN STAFF.

WE GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS REQUIRED, UM, OR WHAT IS PROPOSED.

WE SUGGEST ISSUES TO BE STUDIED AND ADDRESSED.

WE LISTENED TO THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC, AND WE MAKE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, INITIALLY WHEN THIS APPLICATION CAME BEFORE THE TOWN, WE HAD A SITE VISIT AND WE WALKED THE SITE.

AND AT THAT MEETING, I TOLD EVERYBODY THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN PROBLEMS OUT HERE THAT NEED TO BE FIXED.

AND THE APPLICANT, UH, WENT THROUGH, I WOULD SAY TWO OR THREE ITERATIONS WHERE THEY CAME UP WITH AN INITIAL, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS GOOD, BUT NOT THE BEST.

AND, UM, WE, IT WAS REVIEWED WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THEY CAME BACK WITH ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND, UH, WHAT I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REOCCUPY WITH A MORE INTENSE USE, AN EXISTING BUILDING AT THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY'RE MAKING SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY TO ADDRESS SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WERE POINTED OUT IN THE FIELD, UH, THAT AS A RESULT OF THESE MEASURES, THE SITE WILL OPERATE MORE SAFELY THAN IT DOES TODAY.

IF THE EXISTING SPACE WERE REOCCUPIED FOR RETAIL PURPOSES, AND THAT, UH, OUR REVIEW HAS BEEN INDEPENDENT OF THE APPLICANT, WE HAVE NO CONCERN WHETHER THIS APPLICANT'S APPLICATION IS SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.

OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE ADHERED TO AND THAT THE, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL IMPROVE SAFETY.

IS THERE ANY, UM, LIKE, UM, LE SOME TEMPORARY THINGS THAT

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COULD BE DONE WHERE WE COULD SORT OF TEST OUT SOME OF THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE GRANTING APPROVALS OR REJECTING THIS SO WE COULD SORT OF TEST OUT, UM, SOME OF THE CONCEPTS WITHOUT HAVING THEM SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON, ON, ON INTERIM, LIKE SAFETY MEASURES? WELL, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S A, THE, THE CONCEPT IS GOOD.

THE PRACTICALITY OF IT IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE PROPOSING ARE SIGNIFICANT, UH, AND THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT ALTERATIONS TO THE SITE, AND YOU JUST CAN'T GO OUT THERE AND PUT SOME CONES DOWN AND, AND MIMIC IT.

I WILL KNOW, AND I, I WILL BE CORRECTED IF I'M MISTAKEN, I WILL NOTE, AND I'LL BE CORRECTED IF I'M MISTAKEN, THAT, UH, AS PART OF THE RES RESOLUTION OF APPROVAL PRI FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, THE PLANNING BOARD REQUIRED THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, GO BACK OUT SIX MONTHS AFTER THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE AND THE SPACE IS OCCUPIED, AND TO CONFIRM THAT THE VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS ARE FUNCTIONING THE WAY THEY WERE INTENDED TO.

I BELIEVE THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT, AND I WOULD ASK, UH, THE APPLICANT TO CONFIRM THAT OR DENY IT.

WHAT HAPPENS IF IT'S NOT WORKING? YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO, THEY, IF IT'S NOT WORKING, THEY HAVE TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO, TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED.

AND IF IT'S NOT WORKING, WHAT, UH, COULD YOU THINK OF OTHER MEASURES THAT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SORT OF REQUIRE THEM TO DO IF IT DOESN'T WORK? COULD THEY PUT MONEY IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT WHERE IF IT DOESN'T WORK, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THEY GET THE APPROVALS AND IT DOESN'T WORK, THAT, UH, THEN THERE'S MONEY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL PUT PUT UP THAT COULD BE USED FOR THE ADDITIONAL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UH, THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE REQUIRING.

BECAUSE, BECAUSE MR. SUPERVISOR, CAN I JUST CORRECT WHAT MR. CANNING WAS SAYING? THE, THE PLANNING BOARD LIMITED THAT COMPONENT TO THE ONE PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK, UH, STRIPING AREA THAT WAS REDUNDANT OF ANOTHER ONE.

AND, AND WHAT WE DID WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT ONE AREA THAT IS SORT OF A RECTANGULAR THAT, UM, AREA OF CROSSWALKS THAT'S RIGHT BY, UH, THE PIZZA LOCATION GOES ACROSS TO THE RESTAURANT LOCATION THAT WE NOW HAVE.

SO THE PLANNING BOARD SAID THEY WEREN'T SURE THAT WE NEEDED BOTH THE, THE WESTERN, UM, CROSSWALK LOCATION AND THE EASTERN CROSSWALK MARION, AND THAT WE SHOULD GO BACK ON THE EASTERN ONE TO SEE IF IT'S NECESSARY OR NOT.

AND THE CONCEPT WAS THAT IF IT WASN'T NECESSARY, WE COULD REMOVE IT.

UM, BUT IT WASN'T AS TO ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE CHANGES TO THE ONE-WAY CIRCULATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WAS THAT LIMITED EITHER.

BUT THE PLANNING BOARD BASICALLY SAID AT THE END OF SIX MONTHS, COME BACK ONLY AS TO THAT CROSSWALK.

BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT MAYBE WE SHOULD EXPAND ON THAT AND, AND BASICALLY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, AT THE END OF SIX MONTHS COME BACK, UH, WE WOULD HAVE, WE HAVE A, A CONSULTANT WHO'S EXPERIENCED, UH, NOBODY ON THE TOWN BOARD WANTS TO BE AN OBSTRUCTIONIST.

THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT TO BE AN OBSTRUCTIONIST.

WE WANT THIS TO BE A SUCCESSFUL SHOPPING CENTER.

WE WANT THE TENANTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

SO I'M SAYING I WOULD FEEL PERSONALLY BETTER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THERE'D BE MONEY THAT WOULD BE PUT ASIDE THAT COULD ONLY BE USED IF IT'S DIS DETERMINED BY OUR TRAFFIC SAFETY OFFICERS AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND UM, WE HAVE A TRAFFIC SAFETY DIVISION IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, IF IT SAYS IT'S NOT WORKING, UM, THEN WE WOULD, WE COULD USE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WOULD BE PUT IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT, UH, THAT COULD BE ONLY USED TO MAKE ADDITIONAL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE.

WE'RE PAYING A MILLION DOLLARS TO FIX THE SITE IN A WAY.

WELL, MAYBE YOU NEED A MILLION AND A HALF, MR. MAY JUST, WE'RE PAYING A MILLION DOLLARS TO FIX THE SITE IN A WAY THAT YOUR CONSULTANTS AND THE PLANNING BOARD AND WE THINK WORKS.

WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS INTO ESCROW TO HAVE THE TOWN CHANGE IT AROUND IF THE TOWN CHA DECIDES IT SHOULD BE CHANGED AROUND A PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO IMPROVE IN A WAY THAT YOU VETTED AND CONFIRMED IS APPROPRIATE.

I DON'T, I, WITH DUE RESPECT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S REASONABLE TO SAY THAT WE CAN HAVE A DO OVER AND CHANGE WHAT'S BEEN ANALYZED OVER EIGHT MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.

MR. CANNING, WOULD YOU AG YOU WOULD AGREE? 'CAUSE I RECALL THE CONVERSATION AS WELL THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT SIDEWALK.

YEAH, I STAND CORRECTED MR. SHEEN.

COUNCIL MACHINE.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? YES, DYLAN PINE, IS THERE ANYONE AFTER ME? YES.

UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE E C C TO EXPLAIN WHY WE CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AND RELATED APPLICATIONS BY MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER.

WILL, WILL THERE BE A SECOND ROUND? DO WE KNOW? UH, WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE, THE HEARING OR NOT, AND IF WE ARE, THEN THERE'S A SECOND ROUND, AND IF WE'RE NOT, THERE ISN'T.

OKAY, WELL, I'LL, I'LL GET AS FAR AS I CAN AND IF I HAVE TO COME BACK, I'LL, I'LL COME BACK.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD,

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WHILE IT IS LIKELY INEVITABLE THE APPLICANT'S PLAN WILL BE APPROVED POTENTIALLY WITH MINOR CHANGES, IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF ITS RESIDENCE IS CONSIDERED IN ANY DISCUSSION OR DECISION AND TO INSIST THAT THE TOWN COMPLIES WITH THE LAW IN ALL RESPECTS.

UM, WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US IS A REQUEST TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES BY 197, INCLUDING PHYSICALLY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF PARKING AVAILABLE BY 46 EXISTING SPOTS.

THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR MIDWAYS OUTLINED IN TOWN CODE SECTION 2 85 DASH 38, SUBSECTION D FIVE, UH, WHICH APPLIES TO PARKING LOTS CONTAINING TWO OR MORE USES HAVING DIFFERENT PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

UH, THE TOWN CODE MANDATES THAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH USE SHALL APPLY TO THE FULL EXTENT, UH, REDUCTIONS IN THE NUMBER OF SPACES MAY BE GRANTED WHEN IT CAN BE CONCLUSIVELY DEMONSTRATED THAT THE REDUCTION IN SPACES WILL NOT GENERATE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT OVERBURDENS THE PARKING CAPACITY.

UH, THIS DETERMINATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE MADE BASED ON A SHOWING THAT ANY OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING SITE CHARACTERISTICS OCCUR.

THESE ARE THREE SUCH CHARACTER THREE SUCH CHARACTERISTICS.

THE FIRST IS THAT WHEN, UH, THE PROPO PROPOSED NEW USE HERE, TWO RESTAURANTS WILL BE GENERATING A DEMAND FOR PARKING SPACE, UH, PRIMARILY DURING PERIODS WHEN THE OTHER USES ARE NOT IN OPERATION OR NOT LIKELY TO GENERATE A SUBSTANTIAL DEMAND FOR PARKING.

MIDWAY HAS MADE NO SHOWING OF THAT.

UH, THE SECOND CHARACTERISTIC IS THAT SUFFICIENT LAND AREA EXISTS FOR LAND BAKED LAND BANKED OFF STREET PARKING SPACES MIDWAY HASN'T MADE ANY SHOWING OF THAT EITHER.

UH, THE THIRD CHARACTERISTIC IS DOCUMENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT DEMONSTRATING AN UNDER UTILIZATION OF EXISTING OFF STREET PARKING SPACES.

HERE MIDWAY HASN'T SHOWN THAT ITS EXISTING PARKING SPACES ARE UNDERUTILIZED.

ON THE CONTRARY, ALL IT HAS SHOWN IS THAT IT IS THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE TO SQUEEZE ALL BUT 197 PARKING SPACES INTO THE SPACE IT CURRENTLY OCCUPIES.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN ITS EXISTING SPACES UNDERUTILIZED, IT JUST MEANS THAT THAT'S HOW MANY SPACES IT'LL LOSE WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION IS FINISHED.

UH, MIDWAY SIMPLY ARGUES THAT BECAUSE IT FOUND A FEW EMPTY PARKING SPACES ON STUDIES, UH, OF MIDWAY'S BUSIEST SHOPPING DAYS, IT THEREFORE FOLLOWS THAT ITS LOT MUST BE UNDERUTILIZED.

BUT DOES THE DOCUMENTATION SHOWING A FEW EMPTY PARKING SPOTS ON THE BUSY SHOPPING DAYS MEAN THAT THE PARKING LOT IS UNDERUTILIZED? THAT DEPENDS ON HOW ONE DEFINES UNDER UTILIZATION.

UH, UNDERUTILIZATION IS NOT A MATHEMATICAL EXERCISE.

IT REQUIRES TAKING INTO ACCOUNT SUCH FACTORS AS TRAFFIC AVERAGE OF TIME IT TAKES TO FIND A PARKING SPOT ON BUSY DAYS.

AND OF COURSE, ACCIDENT HISTORY, INCLUDING DAMAGES TO CAR AND PEDESTRIANS, UH, MIDWAY NEVERTHELESS ARGUES THAT IT'S ENTITLED TO A PARKING REDUCTION BECAUSE IT'S A PARKING LOT.

AND AS IT IS, IT IS UNDERUTILIZED.

BUT ALL, UH, IT SHOWS TO SUPPORT THAT CLAIM IS OVERHEAD.

PICTURES FROM A DRONE ON BUSY SHOPPING DAYS SHOWING THAT PARKING SPACES COULD BE FOUND.

UH, ASK YOURSELF THE QUESTION UNDER THE TOWN CODE HAS MIDWAY CONCLUSIVELY DEMONSTRATED TO THE TOWN BOARD SATISFACTION THAT 197 REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES WILL NOT GENERATE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT'LL OVERBURDEN PARKING CAPACITY.

BOTTOM LINE, THE E C C ISN'T CONVINCED THAT IT HAS, AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU BE.

UH, 197 PARKING SPACES REPRESENTS 16.79% OR 15 POINT 85% REDUCTION IN PARKING, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LOOK AND HOW MANY SPOTS YOU BELIEVE THERE ACTUALLY ARE CURRENTLY, UH, AS HAS ALREADY BEEN POINTED OUT BY OTHERS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR RECENT APPLICATION, IT STATES THAT THERE ARE 1,175 EXISTING SPOTS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR WEBSITE, IT STATES THERE ARE 1,242.

THIS IS NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE, AND IN FACT IS A GREATER NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS THAN THE PHYSICAL REDUCTION THEY'RE SEEKING.

WHAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE PUT IN THE CONTEXT IS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PARKING HAS BEEN REDUCED BY MIDWAY OVER TIME, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME WHAT HAS BEEN THE INCREASE IN RETAIL SQUARE FOOTAGE? I CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH THE NOTION THAT A REDUCTION IN PARKING AVAILABILITY ALONG WITH AN INCREASE IN RETAIL SPACE.

AND WITH THAT, AN INCREASE IN CUSTOMERS VISITING THE SHOPPING CENTER WILL HAVE A NET POSITIVE IMPACT ON SAFETY.

IF MIDWAY HAS HAD AN IMPECCABLE SAFETY RECORD UP UNTIL NOW, IT'D BE A LOT EASIER TO ACCEPT THE PREMISE THAT ITS PARKING LOT IS SUFFICIENTLY UNDERUTILIZED TO ACCOMMODATE 197 REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

BUT MIDWAY SAFETY RECORD IS BAD AND IT'S GETTING WORSE.

UH, INDEED IT SEEMS THAT MIDWAY IS OFFERING TO MAKE THE PARKING LOT SAFER IN EXCHANGE FOR GETTING THE REDUCTION IT SEEKS IN THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES BECAUSE IT RECOGNIZES WHAT WE RECOGNIZE, WHICH IS THAT SAFE, THAT MIDWAY PARKING LOT IS NOT SAFE.

AND AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, WHICH CONTRADICTS ANY SUGGESTION THAT AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, IT IS UNDERUTILIZED, WHICH IS WHAT THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES.

THAT MIDWAY MUST DEMONSTRATE CONCLUSIVELY IN ORDER TO GET THE 197 SPOT REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.

UH, IN ADDITION TO OFFERING SUPPOSED SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, IF IT GETS THE REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING, IT SEEKS MIDWAY HAS ALSO PROMISED TO GREENIFY THE ISLANDS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT.

AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE PARKING LOT IS UNDERUTILIZED.

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THANK YOU, THOUGH.

YOU, YOU CAN FINISH THAT SENTENCE.

I MEAN IT SORT OF A SENTENCE.

UH, IT IS MERELY ASKING THE TOWN BOARD TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY BECAUSE PUBLIC SAFETY BE DAMNED.

WE'LL BE GETTING SOMETHING GREENER IN RETURN.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE NO FURTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, SORRY, MARY.

PRETTY, PRETTY, PRETTY INTERESTING.

MARY BODEN.

MY NAME IS MURRAY BODEN.

FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS I'VE BEEN PART OF THE VARIOUS TEAMS THAT WRITE, WROTE THE MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.

SPECIFICALLY, I DESIGNED THE DOTTED LINE FOR AUXILIARY VARIOUS OTHER THINGS.

I'M QUALIFIED TO SPEAK ON THE RULES THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

PAUL, YOU'RE A LAWYER.

YOU'RE NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

I AM.

A YOUNG LADY WHO SPOKE BEFORE SAID THAT I DON'T GO TO THAT SHOPPING CENTER BECAUSE THE PARKING SPACES IS TOO CLOSE.

I GO TO A DIFFERENT ONE, AND THAT'S THE EXACT POINT THEY WANT TO BUILD IT.

IF THEY BUILD IT WRONG, THE CUSTOMERS WON'T COME.

WE HAD DINNER AT PASTA'S THE OTHER NIGHT.

NEXT TO IT WAS A NEW RESTAURANT, PLENTY OF PARKING SPACES, RESTAURANTS CLOSED.

WE SHOP AT COSTCO, LIMITED PARKING SPACES.

SOMEBODY THEY MANAGED TO MAKE IT GO.

I AM LOSING MY ABILITY TO KEEP TRACK OF EVERYTHING, SO I SOMETIMES GET LOST.

THIS SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED FOR ONE REASON.

THEIR DESIGN USES CROSSWALKS.

THEY'RE ARE NOT THE SAFEST TO USE.

NICK REON AND I, LIEUTENANT REON GREENBERG'S TRAFFIC ENGINE PERSON, AND I HAVE DISCUSSED MEETING TOGETHER AND REVIEWING THIS IN THE SOON AS WE CAN GET THE TIME TO DO IT.

IN THE PAST, NICK AND I HAVE NOT AGREED ON VERY MUCH, BUT AS CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGED, NICK AND I ARE PRETTY MUCH IN AGREEMENT TODAY.

THIS CANNOT BE APPROVED FOR ONE REASON, THAT THE CROSSWALKS ARE NOT THE SAFEST CROSSWALKS.

GREENBERG IS DETERMINED TO HAVE SAFETY IN CROSSWALKS, AND THE ONLY CROSSWALKS THAT'S SAFE ARE THE PARALLEL BARS.

THE ONES USED IN NEW YORK CITY, STATE OF CONNECTICUT CAN CHOLERA CALIFORNIA.

THEY'RE CALLED A CONTINENTAL CROSSWALK BECAUSE THEY'RE USED THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD.

FOR ONE SIMPLE REASON.

THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME TO THE DRIVER.

THE CROSSWALKS THAT ARE YOU USING DON'T LOOK THE SAME TO THE DRIVER.

THEY WERE DESIGNED WHEN CROSSWALKS WERE NEW AND PEOPLE HAD TO, SO YOU GOT VARIOUS LADDERS, BUT THEY DON'T LOOK THE SAME TO THE DRIVER.

AND I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND YOU CHOOSE NOT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

SO I DEMAND THAT YOU NOT APPROVE THIS UNTIL I USED THE SAFEST CROSSWALKS FOR THE PEDESTRIANS IN GREENBURG.

PREVIOUS SPEAKERS SAID, YOU DON'T MAKE IT CONVENIENT FOR ME.

I'LL GO TO A DIFFERENT SHOP.

RIGHT PAUL, YOU'RE A GOOD LAWYER, BUT YOU'RE NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

NOT IN THE LEAST.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WRONG WITH THAT.

MANUAL AND UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.

AND I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

BUT HOW DO YOU DO WHEN YOU GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, INCLUDING YOUR CONSULTANT, WHO'VE BEEN DOING IT WRONG FOR 30 YEARS AND THEY CAN'T ADMIT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT WRONG? I'VE MADE THIS STATEMENT LAST WEEK, THE PORT AUTHORITY.

YOU CAN GO AND GET THE VIDEO.

I MADE IT AT THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY BOARD.

YOU CAN GET THE VIDEO.

ONE OF THE THINGS IS I HAVE TO TELL THE TRUTH EVERY TIME.

'CAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT I SAID LAST TIME.

AND IF I TELL THE TRUTH EVERY TIME, THERE'S NO PROBLEM.

AND IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING ABOUT THE MANUAL AND YOU GOOGLE IT, YOU GOOGLE MURRAY BODEN UNIFORM, MANUAL AND UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES AND WASHINGTON, DC AND YOU'LL GO BACK 30 YEARS AND YOU'LL FIND MY COMMENTS.

I TWICE SPOKE TO THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF ENGINEERS.

I'M PUTTING THE UNIFORMITY

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BACK IN A MANUAL.

IT'S IN A RECORD.

I CAN SAY THIS BECAUSE I KNOW IT.

IF YOU WANT THE SAFEST WAY, YOU START WITH THE CROSSWALKS.

IF THE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE RESTAURANT, THEY WON'T COME.

YOUR QUESTION AS TO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THERE IS COMPLETELY WRONG.

THEY DO IT WRONG.

CUSTOMERS WON'T COME.

PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, I DON'T LIKE THE PARKING THERE.

I GO TO YONKERS 'CAUSE THE PARKING'S BETTER.

AND THAT IS THE WHOLE BALLGAME.

IT'S FUNNY, WHEN I GET UP HERE, YOU ALL SHUT ME UP AND SEND ME AWAY AND SOMEBODY ELSE IS UP HERE.

THERE'S DISCUSSION GOING ON ENDLESSLY.

SO I GOT THE MESSAGES.

YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT I HAVE TO SAY 'CAUSE IT SCARES YOU.

'CAUSE YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH IT.

I'LL BE GONE, SIR.

I'LL THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME MR. BODEN.

CUT.

CUT IT OUT.

I, I'M SORRY, BUT WE HAVE TO STICK TO THE FIVE MINUTE RULE.

YEAH, YOU DID THAT WITH, WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS.

I NOTICED, DEREK, THERE WERE QUESTIONS AND YOU'RE PROVING THE POINT THAT YOU PICK ON MURRAY BODEN 'CAUSE YOU THINK THAT'S NOT WE INTEND YOU CAN YOU WANT TO TRY ME? THAT'S NOT WHAT WE INTEND TO DO.

TRY ME.

WHO ELSE IS YOU BREAK THE RULES.

IT'S OKAY.

WHEN I BREAK THE RULES, YOU CALL A COP TO TAKE ME OUTTA HERE.

WE HAVE NO FURTHER REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

SO DOES THE BOARD WANT TO HOLD IT OVER TO ANOTHER OH, I'M JUST IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

PUTTING MYSELF IN A POSITION OF BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS 'EM.

UM, I DID WANNA NOTE FOR THE RECORD THOUGH, THAT ACCORDING TO OUR, UM, OUR CLIENT, UM, MIDWAY HAS NOT INCREASED RENTAL SPACE IN THE PAST 20 YEARS.

WE'VE MADE REQUESTS FOR IT, BUT WE'VE NOT INCREASED.

DID YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THE E C C PRESENTATION? UH, NO.

I THINK WE ADDRESSED IT AND I THINK MOST OF WHAT MR. UM, HAVE INDICATED IS, IS IN THE LETTER DATED, UH, WELL, THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UM, NO, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO SATISFY THE PLANNING BOARD WITH REGARD TO THE SHARED PARKING REDUCTION.

AND, UM, WE'RE NOT REDUCING THE NUMBER OF SPACES BY 197.

IT'S, WE'RE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF SPACES BY 46.

AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENTIAL IN THE RATIO OF PARKING REQUIRED FOR THE RESTAURANTS AS COMPARED TO RETAIL SPACE THAT WE NEED THE REDUCTION.

AND SO WE, WE DID THE STUDIES TO SHOW THAT IN THE POOL OF PARKING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE RESTAURANTS, WE HAD ADEQUATE PARKING.

UM, I THINK WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT BEFORE.

SO I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER EXCEPT TO SAY THAT, UH, WE'RE WILLING TO HAVE A COMMITMENT TO MAINTAIN THE GREEN AREAS IF THE, UH, IF THE SITE PLAN IS GRANTED AND WE'RE WILLING TO USE WHATEVER CROSSWALKS THE TOWN DIRECTS US TO USE CONTINENTAL OR OTHERWISE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH EITHER ONE.

AND IT'S REALLY THE TOWN'S DECISION AS THE APPROVAL AGENCY.

UM, QUESTION.

UM, IS THERE A PURPOSE FOR THE GREENING GREEN AREAS OTHER THAN AESTHETICS? UM, I, I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BENEFITS TO THANK YOU HAVING PERMEABLE SERVICES.

THAT THAT'S, UM, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE AREAS THAT WOULD EITHER, THE CHOICES TO EITHER PAINT THEM OR GREEN THEM WHERE YOU'VE GOT, UH, GEOMETRIC SHAPES TO DIRECT FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

BUT, UH, YES.

CAN YOU, MR. ELLO CAN ADDRESS THAT, THAT ALL.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FOR THESE GREEN SPACES? I'D APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, THE, THE BENE IN TERMS OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, JUST BY VIRTUE OF REDUCING IMPERVIOUS AREA, YOU ARE ENHANCING STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE HAVE YOU HAVE LESS RUNOFF.

THE REASON WHY WE'RE PROPOSING THE CURBING AND THE CURBING AND THE ISLANDS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THIS AREA IS TO PROVIDE BARRIERS TO MAKE SURE THAT, TO HELP INFLUENCE PEOPLE TO GO IN A DIRECTION THAT WE INTEND THEM TO GO IN MM-HMM.

IN THIS REVISED TRAFFIC PATTERN.

SO IT DOES PROVIDE BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO CUT THROUGH IN AREAS THAT WE DON'T WANT THEM TO, IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR LANDSCAPING.

I, I'M SORRY.

IT PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO CUT THROUGH WHERE THEY, YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO CUT THROUGH.

I DON'T THINK YOU MEANT TO SAY THAT.

TO CUT THROUGH.

WHERE WE DON'T WANT THEM TO CUT THROUGH.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

YOU.

YOU INSTEAD OF STRIPING IT.

INSTEAD OF STRIPING, THEY PROVIDE BARRIERS SO PEOPLE GO IN THE DIRECTION THAT THE DESIGN WAS INTENDED.

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CORRECT.

AND SO THEY PROVIDE BARRIERS.

CORRECT.

WHICH YOU WANT THEM THAT OBSTRUCTION TO BE THERE.

CORRECT.

I I THINK YOU MISSPOKE, BUT IT'S OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT WAS MY, WHAT I INTENDED.

THEY ALSO PROVIDE AREAS OF REFUGE FOR PEDESTRIANS IN THE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY'RE COINCIDENT WITH CROSSWALKS TOO, BY PROVIDING BARRIERS FOR NOT ONLY VEHICLES, BUT ALSO FOR PEDESTRIANS TO BE PROTECTED IN WHERE THEY'RE WALKING.

NEXT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BENEFIT OF HOLDING IT OVER TO ANOTHER MEETING IS.

I DUNNO.

I IT'S A PLEASURE.

DID YOU HAVE, DID YOU WANT MORE DATA? ALAN? ALAN? NO, I DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S NO, I SEE NO REASON TO HOLD IT OVER.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, WELL, PAUL, DO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? WELL, THE MOTION WOULD BE, UM, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.

UH, WISH EACH OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY'S, UH, VERY HEALTHY AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

AND, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK AND CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE TOWN.

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I'M GOING TO CALL IN THE ORDER IN WHICH, UM, INDIVIDUALS HAVE SIGNED UP.

MANNY ESIS.

UH, YEAH, I, I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON, ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, THE RESOLUTION TO ISSUE A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE SEEKER OF THE TERMINATION OF THE TOWN BOARD.

ANYWAYS, IT HAS TO DO WITH METROPOLIS.

YOU KNOW, I GOTTA TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WAS NOT USED.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS NOT, UH, UH, WAS NOT SPOKEN TO.

AND THEN, AND THEN YOUR, YOUR TOWN PLANNER, UH, WENT OUT AND, AND SET UP A SITE VISIT WITH THESE PEOPLE.

AND THE, THE PERSONS THAT THEY, THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE WAS THE, THE COMMUNITY AND THE STAKEHOLDERS.

IF YOU DON'T MAKE IT A THREE, THREE LANE LOAD, A TWO LANE ROAD, AND THEN YOU PROCEED TO PUT NO PARKING SIGNS TO ACCOMMODATE THE APPLICANT, THEN GUESS WHAT? THE TRAFFIC, WHERE THE, WHERE THE PARKING, WHEN THE PARKING'S GONNA HAPPEN ON FAIR STREET.

AND I, AND NOW I HEAR YOUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT SAYING, WE LISTENED TO THE PEOPLE.

THAT COMMUNITY NOT, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

I JUST HAPPENED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS WEDNESDAY MEETING AT SIFE VISIT BECAUSE SOMEBODY FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TOLD ME ABOUT IT.

COMMUNITY WAS NOT HEARD.

YOU SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE PART IS THAT IF THEY, IF THEY'RE NOT, IF ONE, ONLY ONE SIDE GETS HEARD, AND THAT'S THE APPLICANT'S SIDE, THINGS LOOK DIFFERENT AND OUR APPROACH DIFFERENTLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED, YOU, THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT HAS TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A TWO-WAY ROAD.

AND IF, AND EVEN IN THE TOWN PLAN, THEY ASK FOR 26 FEET OF WIDTH TO BE DONE.

THAT INCLUDES A SIDEWALK AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS A TWO-LANE ROAD.

THE APPLICANT IS, IS A, IS ASKING FOR YOU TO PUT A DRIVEWAY FOR THEM TO USE.

YOU TALK, KEEP TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC SAFETY.

THERE'S NO TRAFFIC SAFETY THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MAKE A, A DRIVEWAY.

AND YOU, YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, ESPECIALLY TRUCKS AND, AND, AND TRAILER TRUCKS.

TRAILER TRUCKS.

NOW YOU'RE GOING, YOU, YOU PROCEEDED TO, TO MOVE THIS THROUGH WITHOUT, WITHOUT ANY OTHER COMMENT IN, IN, IN THE COMMUNITY SEEING WHAT THE, WHAT THE, THE NEXT SITE PLAN AFTER THE CONSULTANT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE, AND THE POLICE TRAFFIC PERSON WAS THERE.

NOBODY, NOBODY LET THE COMMUNITY SEE WHAT WAS GOING TO, WAS WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I, I'VE HEARD IS THAT THE, THE POLICE OFFICER, THE ION ACTUALLY STATED THAT PUTTING THE SIDEWALK DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE BECAUSE THERE'S NO NEED FOR CONTINUITY FOR THE EXISTING SIDEWALK WAS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN ON, ON, ON JUNIPER HILL.

THAT'S ONE OF THE COMMENTS HE MADE.

HE CON THEY'RE CONSTANTLY, THEY'RE MINIMIZING THE NEED FOR THINGS.

ANOTHER THING, UH, ONE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH IS THE CHURCH HAS BEEN FEEDING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THERE.

HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE LAST, THIS LAST THURSDAY.

THEY FED, THEY GAVE OUT 300 TURKEYS.

THEY USED THAT ROAD FOR PARKING.

AND

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SO ALL THESE COMMENTS THAT I'M MAKING YOU NOW, THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT IN HERE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN HERE, THAT YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN SAFETY AND YOU'RE REALLY LISTEN, REALLY WILLING TO, TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, THIS RESOLUTION THAT YOU'RE READY TO GIVE A NEGATIVE DECLARATION ON SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE THOUGHT OUT AND, AND, AND REED WITH PARTICIPATION AND LETTING THE COMMUNITY SEE WHAT THE PLANS ARE THAT YOU DECLARE GIVING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION ON.

'CAUSE NOBODY SAW THAT.

THE OTHER PART IS I NEVER, I I NEVER, I DIDN'T SEE AN AGENDA.

OKAY, I, I CAN KEEP GOING ON BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT I'VE WRITTEN DOWN AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE THE FIVE MINUTES, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ON AND ON AND ON.

YOU KNOW, THE FACT IS THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE FIRE TRUCKS.

I MEAN, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW.

THE FACT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID IN, AND IT WAS SHOT DOWN SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES THE, TO EXPEDITE THE APPLICANT'S NEEDS AND, AND, AND THE HEARINGS ON ON MATTERS SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES APP THE CONSULTANTS AND, AND THE TOWN EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PUT IN CHARGE OF THESE THINGS START SEEING EYE TO EYE CLOSER TO THE APPLICANT BECAUSE IT'S MUCH EASIER TO FULFILL THEIR NEEDS THAN TO CANVAS THE COMMUNITY AND THE STAKEHOLDERS.

IT'S DIDN'T HAPPEN ON THIS PROJECT.

THE PROMISES WERE MADE BY, BY METROPOLIS TO THE COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE NOT FULFILLING IT.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, IF YOU, YOU TALK ABOUT LAWSUIT, IF YOU'RE PUTTING A ONE LANE ROAD ON A TWO LANE ROAD THAT IS JUNIPER HILL, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE , YOU'RE GONNA SEE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE LAWSUITS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK THERE.

THEY'RE GOING, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED PARK ANYWAYS.

I I'M JUST, I'M JUST DISAPPOINTED.

AND THAT YOU'RE PROCEEDING WITHOUT, WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY SEEING THE, YOUR PLANS, THE FUTURE PLANS THAT ARE AND THAT ARE, THAT YOU INTEND TO PUT INTO, INTO THE, INTO THE, THEIR COMMUNITY.

COULD WE, UH, ASK OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT IF, UM, THEY FACTORED IN THE, THE FOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, EVENTS? YOU KNOW, THE, BECAUSE I, I, I FEEL THAT THAT'S AATE, YOU KNOW, I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT OF THAT.

THEY DO HAVE A FOOD PANTRY.

I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ABOUT, ABOUT THE SITE VISIT THAT THEY HAD RECENTLY.

SO GARRETT, YOU WERE AT THAT SITE VISIT.

UH, DID, DID SAR UH, LIEUTENANT RESON SAY THAT THERE WAS NO NEED FOR THE SIDEWALK? NO, NO.

THAT WAS NOT SAID.

SO I ATTENDED THE SITE VISIT, UH, LAST WEDNESDAY.

UH, SERGEANT RESON WAS THERE.

SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE, UH, FAIRVIEW FIRE DEPARTMENT WERE PRESENT AS WAS, UH, JOHN CANNING.

UM, WE REVIEWED THE PROJECT.

WE UNDERSTOOD, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL THE SITE PROPOSALS, UH, AS FAR AS SIDEWALKS.

THE SIDE OF THIS, THE ROAD THAT THIS SIDEWALK WAS PROPOSED, UH, WE WENT OVER, UM, HYDRANT LOCATIONS.

WE WENT OVER, UM, FIRETRUCK ACCESS IN AND OUT.

UM, EVERYONE WAS AWARE OF THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC PROPOSED WITH, IN CONNECTION WITH THE SITE.

UM, AND THERE WERE, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IS A FEW IMPROVEMENTS.

THERE WERE TWO TREES, UH, THAT WILL COME DOWN, UM, IN CONNECTION WITH, WITH THE, THE, THE SITE VISIT.

AND SOME TREES WOULD BE LIMBED UP, UH, TO ALLOW FOR PASSAGE OF, OF, OF VEHICLES.

UM, AND PARTICULARLY TRUCKS, FIRE VEHICLES.

UM, MINIMUM 18 FEET WIDE, UH, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT WAS IDENTIFIED.

UM, AND ALSO JUST A AS WELL AS A, UH, UM, STOP SIGN ON THE EXIT O O O OF THE ROADWAY.

UM, SO THERE, YES, THE, THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WAS CONFIDENT IN, IN THE DESIGN.

UM, THE, THE FIRE CHIEF WAS, WAS, WAS PLEASED WITH THE, UH, PROPOSAL.

AND, UM, YEAH, THOSE WERE THE FINDINGS FROM THE SITE VISIT.

DID YOU CALL MR. CANNING? HE JUST SIGNED OFF.

AND COULD YOU CALL HIM AND GET HIM BACK ON AGAIN? WELL, I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD BE BRIEFED ON THAT SITE VISIT BY THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE.

I MEAN, THREE OF US WERE NOT BRIEFED.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE TWO OF YOU WERE BRIEFED.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD THESE OVER UNTIL WE'VE HAD THAT BRIEFING.

I TEND TO AGREE WITH MR. RISI.

THAT'S THAT'S FINE.

BUT LET'S JUST GO THROUGH THE SCENARIO HERE.

THAT'S FINE.

WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING MM-HMM.

, AND WE HAD A SITE VISIT AND OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WAS THERE.

IT WAS ONLY WHEN WE WERE ACTUALLY CLOSED.

THE, THE, THE RECORD WAS CLOSED.

WE WERE READY TO VOTE MM-HMM.

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AT THE LAST MEETING.

AND THEN MANNY COMES UP AND SAYS, DID YOU CONTACT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AT NO TIME DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING OR DID YOU GET SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? 'CAUSE EVERYBODY, WHEN THEY DO THE NOTICE, THEY SEND IT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU DON'T GET COMMENTS, YOU JUST TAKE IT AS NO COMMENT.

BUT THE REQUEST THEN WAS DID YOU DISCUSS IT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? IT WASN'T, SHALL WE HAVE A SITE VISIT AGAIN WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT, BECAUSE WE'RE BEING ACCUSED OF NOT BEING, UM, UH, TRANSPARENT WITH THE PUBLIC.

AND WE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE HAD A SITE VISIT MM-HMM.

, WELL ATTENDED SITE VISIT, AS A MATTER OF FACT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THE REQUEST, AS I RECALL IT FROM THE LAST MEETING WAS, DID THE TOWN GET FEEDBACK FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? MM-HMM.

, I DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT SET UP ANOTHER SITE VISIT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TALK TO THE FIRE CHIEF.

I SPOKE TO THE FIRE CHIEF MYSELF ABOUT IT AT THE, UH, AT THE VETERAN'S DAY EVENT.

UM, AND HE WAS AWARE OF IT, BUT MM-HMM.

, THERE WAS A REQUEST.

THERE WAS A REQUEST TO HAVE THAT.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY IF, IF ANYONE WANTS TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THAT'S FINE, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE LIEUTENANT REON AT THIS POINT SAYING THERE'S NO NEED FOR A SIDEWALK.

MY POINT IS JUST THAT IF, IF IT, IF THE SITE VISIT OCCURRED AND ALL OF THESE OFFICIALS WERE THERE, AND THEY OPINED THAT THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD AT THE VERY LEAST BE BRIEFED ON WHAT THEY WERE OPINING UPON AND BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS SIGNIFICANT IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY THERE AND THEY HAD OPINIONS.

AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE A VICTIM OF IS THIS IS MONDAY, AND WE'D NORMALLY HAVE THAT DISCUSSION TOMORROW.

SO, YEAH.

SO THE SITE VISIT WAS WEDNESDAY.

WEDNESDAY.

AND, UM, I SHOULD HAVE SENT AN EMAIL TO THE TOWN BOARD TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING THE SITE VISIT, UH, THERE WERE NO, UM, ASPECTS OF THE PROPOSAL IDENTIFIED BY THE PROFESSIONALS, YOU KNOW, ON SITE THAT, YOU KNOW, GAVE RISE TO ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE SITE.

UH, THEY, THERE WAS ONE RECOMMENDATION FOR A STOP SIGN, UM, ONE RECOMMENDATION FOR A, UH, TRUCK TRAFFIC LEFT ONLY.

UM, AND WE FELT SATISFIED AND WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WERE TWO DEAD TREES THAT SEEMED TO IMPEDE, UH, TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, FOOD PANTRY, THE REMOVAL OF THOSE TREES AND THE 18 FOOT WIDE ROADWAY, WHICH WILL NOT HAVE OCCURRED ON THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL ALLOW CARS TO ESSENTIALLY BE OUT OF THAT SPACE, UH, WAS DEEMED ADEQUATE.

THIS IS A, UM, NOT A PUBLICLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THIS IS NOT A THROUGH ROAD.

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A PRIVATE ROAD THAT ONLY PROVIDES ACCESS TO, UM, THIS, THIS GOLF COURSE.

A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT HAS A VACANT PROPERTY THAT'S UNUSED AND, UM, YEAH.

AND, AND I GUESS AN OCCASIONAL ONCE A WEEK, UH, FOOD PANTRY OPERATION.

CAN I, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? UM, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, YOUR THOUGHTS IF AT TOMORROW'S WORK SESSION TOMORROW EVENING, UH, WE INVITE THE FIRE CHIEF, UH, MR. CANNING, UH, AND REPRESENTATIVES OF, UH, THE JUNIPER HILL, YOU KNOW, CIVIC ASSOCIATION, MANNY, UM, AND ANYBODY ELSE, UM, AND WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN YOU COULD ASK THE QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, ONE A MINUTE OR SO, YOU KNOW, PRESENTATION.

NOW WE COULD THINK ABOUT IT.

WE COULD GIVE YOU THE RESPECT OF, UM, OF LISTENING TO YOUR CONCERNS, HAVING THE CONCERNS, UH, THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ANSWERED, AND WOULD HAVE THE FIRE DISTRICT AND THE CONSULTANT THERE AT THE SAME TIME.

I THINK THAT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU'VE, YOU'VE HELD IT OVER, WHICH IS YOUR RIGHT.

SO THEN IT WOULD BE VOTED ON DECEMBER 14TH, AND THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE, HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE, THE DISCUSSION.

YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT TOMORROW IF POSSIBLE.

MY ONLY TOMORROW WE HAVING A WORKSTATION TOMORROW.

ARE WE HAVING A WORKSTATION TOMORROW? I THOUGHT THEY WOULD COME.

WE HAVE A WORKATION TOMORROW.

WE'RE WORKING TOMORROW.

IT COULD BE TOMORROW OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW.

OH, RIGHT.

TOMORROW.

TODAY'S MONDAY.

I'M CONFUSED TODAY, TOMORROW.

I'M CONFUSED.

SO WE CAN DO, WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.

WHENEVER EVERYBODY'S AVAILABLE.

WHICH IS WHY WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO, SO THEN WE CAN DO IT TOMORROW.

WE CAN DO IT NEXT.

WHENEVER.

WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE THE, UM, THE DISCUSSION SO THEY COULD ALL BE THERE.

WHAT WE, WE WILL, WE WILL HEAR THE REST OF THE APPLICANTS, WHOEVER SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.

SO THAT BE TOMORROW OR BEFORE THE 14TH? WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE YOU AND WE'LL TELL YOU.

ALRIGHT, SO WE HOLDING THAT OVER AND YOU'LL BE THERE RIGHT NEXT.

COULD YOU ASK, UH, JOAN TO UM, UM, ADVISE, YOU KNOW, METROPOLIS, THE FAIRVIEW FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, AND, UM, ADVISE, RIGHT.

AND, UM, THE CONSULTANT AND MANNY OF THE TIME WHEN

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WHO'S NEXT? ACT ON PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, IS, IS THERE A MR. WATSON? HERE? OLLIE LEY.

I'M ANDY NATHAN FROM, UH, METROPOLIS AND, UM, SURPRISED NOT WHAT I WAS PLANNING TO SAY.

UM, LET ME START BY THANKING YOU ALL FOR THE AMAZING AMOUNT OF TIME YOU'VE HAD TO SPEND ON WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A, A SIMPLE REQUEST AND WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE VOTED ON TONIGHT.

LET ME, UM, TELL YOU HOW, SORRY I AM FOR THE AGGRAVATION THAT SEEMS TO HAVE CAUSED SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

LET ME REJECT CATEGORICALLY THE SUGGESTION THAT WE'VE NOT DONE EVERYTHING WE AGREED TO DO.

AND THEN SOME, THESE DISCUSSIONS STARTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

IN THE CONTEXT OF BRIGHTVIEW, WE'VE PUT THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY, THE TURF CARE FACILITY, WHERE WE SAID IT WOULD, SO IT'D BE MINIMALLY OUT IN SIGHT LINES FOR RESIDENTS.

WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND WITH THE TOWN BOARD AND WITH STAFF RESPONDING TO EVERY REQUEST.

WE'VE GONE TO MEETINGS.

WE ARE AGREEING TO PAVE A DEAD END ROAD THAT IS A DIRT ROAD.

WE'RE PUTTING A SIDEWALK IN ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT BOTH THE CHURCH AND THE SCHOOL ASKED US TO.

UM, WE WERE MOVING TREES, WE'RE PUTTING STOP SIGNS.

WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO.

SO I DO WANT TO REJECT ON THE RECORD AND CATEGORICALLY THE SUGGESTION THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE EVERYTHING WE'RE ASKED TO DO IN THEN SOME, BUT I'M STILL UPSET.

UH, SORRY THAT YOU'RE SO UPSET.

UM, IF YOU HOLD THIS OVER TO THE 14TH, WHICH IS YOUR, OF COURSE, YOUR PREROGATIVE TO DO, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN GET ALL WORK DONE IN TIME BECAUSE OF THE SEASON.

THAT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM.

THAT'S OUR PROBLEM.

BUT I WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE ON THE RECORD AND MAKE IT CLEAR BECAUSE WE THOUGHT PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE CLOSED.

WE THOUGHT ALL OF THE DISCUSSION WAS PASSED.

WE THOUGHT LAST WEEK'S MEETING, UH, UM, WITH, WITH PROFESSIONAL STAFF, UH, I WASN'T THERE WAS TO SOLVE A OR OR TO ADDRESS A, A SMALL QUESTION, A FAIR QUESTION, UH, APPROPRIATELY TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO, TO VOTE TONIGHT, UM, IS HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE THAT STAFF PUT IN FRONT OF YOU A NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND, AND, UH, AND, AND SITE PLAN FOR VOTE AFTER HAVING HAD THAT MEETING.

IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM THOSE PROFESSIONALS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM TOMORROW.

CONFIRMING.

AND I WOULDN'T CARE IF YOUR MEETING WAS IN FOUR DAYS OR NEXT WEEK.

WE DON'T WANNA RUSH THIS THROUGH.

WE DON'T WANT ANYONE ON, WE DON'T WANT THE BOARD TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.

WE DON'T WANT THE COMMUNITY TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.

BUT DELAYING TO THE 14TH, I YOU COULD HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.

AND I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU THROUGH THAT.

I, I, I WANNA BE CLEAR, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE A, WE WANT TO BE A RELATIVELY LOW MAINTENANCE NEIGHBOR IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

AND, AND, AND WE'RE BECOMING MORE OF THAT.

AND THAT'S NOT OUR GOAL.

WE COULD HAVE A, WE COULD HAVE A, UH, A SPECIAL MEETING A WEEK FROM TUESDAY IF WE MEET TOMORROW.

WELL, AND, AND I'D APPRECIATE THAT.

I DON'T, WE DON'T WANNA PUT YOU IN THAT POSITION.

I JUST WANNA LAY OUT THE FACTS FOR YOU.

AND WE, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT YOU ALL HAVE ASKED US TO DO.

WHAT THE PLANNING BOARD WANTS US TO DO, WHAT WE TOLD THE COMMUNITY WE WOULD DO NOTHING MORE.

SO, SO THANK YOU.

AND I, I, I MEAN, I'VE SAID ALL I THINK I NEED TO SAY, BUT, AND I'M, WE'RE GRATEFUL.

APPRECIATE IT.

SO THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HELD OVER MM-HMM.

, UH, WE INVITE THE FAIR, WE INVITE ALL THE PEOPLE TOMORROW AND UM, OR IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY, AND THEN WE CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, UM, UH, THAT THE FIRST A WEEK FROM TUESDAY, UM, AFTER WE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY.

AND I ASSUME WE'LL MEET EVERYBODY TOMORROW OR, OR NEXT TUESDAY AND THEN WE CAN VOTE.

I'M NOT A FAN OF SPECIAL MEETINGS 'CAUSE THERE IS CONSIDERABLE WORK THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT.

AND THIS WAY WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT UNNECESSARILY DELAYING JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT.

BUT WE WANT TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY THE RESPECT THAT THEY DESERVE SINCE IT'S A SHORT NOTICE.

WHY DON'T WE CALL IT FOR NEXT TUESDAY? HAVE THE MEETING AND A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE VOTE? YOU MEAN CALL THE DISCUSSION FOR NEXT TUESDAY DISCUSSION AND A SPECIAL MEETING.

YES.

THE DISCUSSION AND A SPECIAL MEETING FOR NEXT TUESDAY.

THAT'S FINE.

IS THAT, YEAH, I'M NOT, OBVIOUSLY

[02:40:01]

UM, BUT THAT'S A BOARD'S PREROGATIVE.

YOU HAVE MANY SPECIAL MEETINGS ALL THE TIME, BUT ALMOST EVERY OTHER WEEK.

YEAH, BUT YOU'RE NOT DOING THE WORK FOR THEM.

I I'M DOING ALL THE WORK.

WE'RE ALL DOING THE WORK.

OKAY, GOOD.

DID DID I HAVE ANY TIME LEFT? CAN I JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA BE OUTTA WATER, BUT I I DIDN'T NOTICE WHAT YOUR TIME WAS.

YOU DID.

I'D LIKE A MINUTE.

YOU, SIR, YOU HAD A MINUTE AND 49 SECONDS LEFT.

CAN I USE 20 SECONDS OF CHAIR? OF COURSE.

REMEMBER THAT.

SO IF I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING, COME BACK.

IF IT'S NOT INAPPROPRIATE, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS CONFIRM TOMORROW WHETHER THE 14TH PUTS US IN THAT POSITION OR NOT.

AND IF IT DOESN'T, IF IT DOESN'T LET YOU KNOW SO YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THINK ABOUT A SPECIAL MEETING.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT MYSELF.

I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

'CAUSE A SPECIAL MEETING GENERALLY FOR ONE ITEM GENERALLY TURNS OUT TO BE A, A MINI TOWN BOARD MEETING.

I, AND THE PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO ME, PLEASE REPEAT IT AGAIN.

MARY BODEN SPENT TWO HOURS HERE THIS AFTERNOON WITH, UH, MONDALE JONES.

PAUL, YOU WERE HERE.

JUDITH WAS HERE.

YOU WERE HERE.

I NEED YOU TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO ME, HELEN, FOR ALL THE TIME WE WERE HERE AND EVERYBODY WAS IN THE ROOM.

VIRTUALLY NO ONE WORE A MASK, INCLUDING YOU, SAME ROOM.

EVERYTHING WAS THE SAME.

YET TONIGHT WHEN FRANCIS WALKED IN THE ROOM, YOU ALL PUT MASKS ON.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

NO, YOU, I'M SORRY.

OH, SOME OF YOU, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE SOME PEOPLE NEED TO SPEAK, BUT THE LAW IS CLEAR THAT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING IN PUBLIC, YOU TAKE THE MASK OFF.

BUT ELLEN, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHY DO YOU HAVE A MASK ON TONIGHT AND YOU DIDN'T THIS AFTERNOON? WHAT'S DIFFERENT? THE ROOM IS THE SAME.

MANY OF THE PEOPLE ARE THE SAME.

I'M GOING TO ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I FORGOT A MASK THIS AFTERNOON BECAUSE I RUSHED HERE FROM ANOTHER MEETING AND WAS VERY LATE.

AND I WEAR A MASK NOW OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE.

I'M SITTING HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE REASONS THAT THEY ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

OKAY? THAT WOULDN'T BE YOUR REASONS.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO READ LIPS? BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF ME, MARI YOU ARE WALKING.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

NUMEROUS PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO ME, THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND EITHER.

I UNDERSTOOD NOTHING OF WHAT FRANCIS SAID TONIGHT.

NOTHING.

ZERO.

AND FRANCIS, IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE TAKING YOUR MASK OFF IN THIS SITUATION, THEN YOU SHOULD BE WEARING GARRETT IS AND WITHOUT A MASK AND DO IT ON ZOOM.

THIS MEETING IS NOT RUN FOR YOUR BENEFIT.

IT'S RUN FOR THEIR BENEFIT.

AND THERE IN LIGHT, I SPEAK FOR NOT ONLY MYSELF, BUT NUMEROUS OTHER PEOPLE WHO CANNOT UNDERSTAND YOU WITH A MASK ON.

AND SINCE WE HAVE THE ABILITY, BY THE WAY, GARRETT IS OUT THERE IN NEVER, NEVER LAND GARRETT.

NICK RESON IS LIEUTENANT RESON, NOT SERGEANT REON.

HE GOT PROMOTED.

SO SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION.

OKAY, FRANCIS, THIS IS NOT YOUR SHOW.

YOU DON'T CONTROL IT.

WE, AND I SPEAK FOR A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE 'CAUSE THEY'VE COME UP TO ME AND TOLD ME PERSONALLY, THEY NEED TO SEE PEOPLE TALK.

AND YOU HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY JUMP TO YOUR LOOP IF YOU NEED TO WEAR A MASK.

AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO THEN YOU DO WHAT GARRETT DID AND YOU DO WHAT THE TOWN CONSULTANT DID ATTEND A MEETING VIA ZOOM.

WE ARE ENTITLED TO THAT.

THE SAME GOES FEEL.

IF YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR MASK OFF, THAT'S FINE.

I HAVE NO OBJECTION FOR THAT.

BUT DO IT FROM A REMOTE LOCATION, NOT FROM HERE.

[02:45:02]

'CAUSE I DON'T SPEAK JUST FOR MYSELF.

I SPEAK FOR A NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL.

IF YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR MASK OFF AND THAT'S FINE, THEN DO IT FROM A RE REMOTE LOCATION.

HOW'S SAMUS? AMONG THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN 2022 WAS WE HAD TALK, WE ENGAGED IN A STUDENT NEWS NETWORK.

MR. FINER HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS.

WHATEVER THE KIDS WANTED, TALK ABOUT.

FINE.

SO WITHOUT A LONG SPEECH IN THE RESPONSE, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE STUDENT NEWS NETWORK.

FIRST SHOW WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE END OF JUNE AND IT WAS GONNA BE THE SEPTEMBER.

NOW WE'RE AT THE END OF NOVEMBER DISAPPEARED.

WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE MURAL TOWN BOARD? RESIDENTS WANNA KNOW IT'S BEEN A MATTER OF CONTROVERSY PUBLICLY AIRED.

IS THE MURAL GOING AWAY? IS LOSS SITUATION GOING AWAY? LET'S HAVE A REPORT TO THE PUBLIC.

WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE.

SO LET'S HEAR IT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH.

I BELIEVE WE THE TOWN WAS ABLE THROUGH MR. ATI'S EFFORTS, SUCCESSFUL IN JUNE TO PASS A, UH, LEGISLATION FOR GIVING THE TOWN HOME RULE EXCEPTION, UH, REGARDING THE TAXATION OF CONDOMINIUMS. HAS THE GOVERNOR SIGNED IT YET? IF NOT, IS IT GONNA HAPPEN? I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT UP TALKED ABOUT, BUT DROP AS SOON AS IT GETS, YOU KNOW, NOWHERE.

WELL, REMEMBER YOU ASKED, YOU VOTED FOR IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR TO HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDE YOU WITH A REPORT ON ANTISEMITISM FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

AND WHEN I FOILED FOR IT IN JUNE, I WAS TOLD THE DOCUMENT DOESN'T EXIST.

SO IF IT SHOULD EXIST, THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE TILL DECEMBER 31ST, 2022 TO REPORT ON INCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED IN 2021.

THAT WOULD BE A VERY VALUABLE PIECE OF INFORMATION TO KNOW A YEAR LATER.

SO YOU PASS THE RESOLUTION.

IS THERE ANY FOLLOW UP HERE? WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MIDWAY.

YOU HAVE A RULE WHERE YOU ALLOW A SECOND ROUND, A FIVE MINUTE COMMENT WHEN YOU'RE GONNA CLOSE THE HEARING.

YOU DID NOT ALLOW THAT SECOND ROUND TO OCCUR TONIGHT AND YOU CLOSED THE HEARING.

DO YOU DO ANYTHING CONSISTENT? DO YOU FEEL THAT THE PUBLIC, IN A PUBLIC HEARING SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK? WHEN I TALK ABOUT A TEAM, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THEY'RE ALL WEARING THE SAME JERSEY, BUT HAS THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS EVER PUT A RULING OUT AND SAID, NO, WE DON'T SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'VE ALWAYS WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER TO ACHIEVE THE END.

AND THE CONSULTANTS, OBVIOUSLY, ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING IN THE MITIGATIONS ON MIDWAY HAVE TO DO WITH PROBLEMS THAT CAME FROM THE LAST TIMES THAT THIS MIDWAY APPLICANT WAS BEFORE THE TOWN AND LEFT ALL THESE PROBLEMS DESPITE THE SAME CAST OF CONSULTANTS ADVISING.

UM, UH, I THINK I HOLD THAT OVER.

UM, FINALLY I ASKED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THREE WEEKS AGO THAT I NOTICED ON A SATURDAY MORNING THAT THERE WERE THREE SQUAD CARS OUTSIDE THE MEMORIAL NINE 11 MEMORIAL.

AND AS I WALKED A LITTLE FARTHER COMING OUT OF THE EXIT OF THE WESTCHESTER SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER WITH THREE MORE POLICE CARS HEADED TOWARDS THE MEMORIAL.

SO I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND ASKED WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I SENT ANOTHER EMAIL TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE, WHAT'S HAPPENING?

[02:50:01]

AND I SENT A THIRD EMAIL AND YOU'VE ALL BEEN COPIED.

WHAT'S HAPPENING? DOESN'T THE PUBLIC HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON? FINALLY, GOING BACK TO THE BUDGET.

WELL, MR. FINER, WHEN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CAPITAL BUDGET YOU MADE IT SEEM LIKE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WERE NOT FOLLOWING UP ON THEIR, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD WHEN IT APPROVED THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

SO WHY HASN'T ANYTHING BEEN BONDED FROM THE CAPITAL BUDGET? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WHEN YOU'VE BEEN TAKING ALL THE MONEY OUT OF THE FUND BALANCES THAT THE AAA BOND RATING NO LONGER WILL HOLD UP? ALL YOU'RE QUOTING IS FROM MARCH, 2021.

THE RATING COMES WHEN YOU GO TO BOND.

THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU DIDN'T BOND ANY OF THAT 19 MILLION IN DEAR BOWEN.

OH, OH, DESK.

OH YES.

I I THOUGHT YOU ASKED TO SPEAK LAST, BUT, UM, OKAY.

ALENE ER I APOLOGIZE.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

UM, I'M HERE ABOUT HELEN, COULD YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN? CAN YOU HEAR ME? ASK HER.

I'M HERE ABOUT, I KNOW THIS ON MAR NOVEMBER THE NINTH ON THE BOARD MEETING.

I DIDN'T COME, BUT I SAW SOMETHING THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT.

MY CONCERN WAS THAT JUDY, A LOT OF PEOPLE WROTE ME, A LOT OF PEOPLE WROTE ME ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS.

JUDY IS A BOARD MEMBER.

AND I FELT, AND SO DO OTHER PEOPLE.

UH, PAUL, I'M SPECIFIC SAYING THIS TO PAUL.

I FEEL THAT WHEN YOU DUTY FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD, I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE THEY SEE JUDY TOO.

UH, IF AS OF NOVEMBER, IF YOU GO BACK NOVEMBER THE NINTH, THEY COULD NOT SEE THE CLERK.

SO IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THE RESIDENT WOULD LIKE TO SEE HER, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

OKAY? BECAUSE WE SEE EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT WE DIDN'T SEE HER.

AND WE KIND OF, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE WROTE ME LETTERS ABOUT THIS ON MY EMAIL.

THE SECOND, I HAD GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO WHEN I WAS HERE.

AND IT WAS TOTALLY, TOTALLY WAS VERY DISRESPECTFUL AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WENT BACK AND SAW IT ON THE BOARD.

BUT I'M GOING TO SAY TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, I HAVE BEEN VERY RESPECTED TO ALL OF YOU.

I HAVE NEVER DISRESPECT ANYONE.

THAT'S NOT ME.

ANYWAY.

MY MOTHER RAISED ME BETTER THAN THAT.

WHEN EACH ONE OF Y'ALL FRANC, WHEN YOU SAY, I DISRUPTED THE BOARD, THE BOARD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISRUPTED.

LET ME SPEAK SECOND, PAUL, SUPERVISOR, YOU ARE A SUPERVISOR.

THE COMMUNITY VOTED FOR YOU.

WE WANT TO SEE YOU STAND UP FOR MR. JONES.

THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT TO ME.

I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT RUNNING YOU, BUT I'M GONNA SAY THIS TO YOU.

MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

YOU CAN DO THIS.

YOU COULD BE THE NEXT JOHNNY COCKER, YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BEN CRUMP AND YOU CAN BE THE NEXT PERRY MASON.

SO WHAT WE SAYING, GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND DO SOMETHING.

MAKE IT BETTER.

'CAUSE YOU CAN DO THIS.

WE KNOW THAT.

I'M GOING TO GET WITH PAUL AND JUDY, I AM TRYING TO BRING MICHELLE OBAMA TO COME FOR BLACK HISTORY.

I'M GONNA SPEAK MORE ON IT.

I'M GOING TO GET WITH GINA, I'M GONNA GET RID OF QUITE A FEW PEOPLES.

I HAVE NOT MADE MY DECISION ON WHEN I'M GOING TO DO THIS, BUT I WILL BE SENDING YOU AN EMAIL ON IT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, EVERYBODY IS WATCHING.

YOU GUYS MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I THANK YOU.

[02:55:03]

IT DID GET OUTTA HANDS OVER TURKEYS, BUT I THANK YOU FOR BEING THE PERSON YOU IS.

ELLEN, I THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT WITH LOVE AND BLESSING AND IT MEANS A LOT.

BUT THE PUBLIC SEES EVERYTHING AND THE PUBLIC WAS VERY UNHAPPY.

AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, MR. JONES, YOU COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

YOU COULD BE THE NEXT JOHNNY CARER, YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BEN CRUMB, AND YOU COULD BE THE NEXT PERRY MASON.

THAT MEANS THAT IN THE COMMUNITY, FIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING AND BE BLESSED.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALENE.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

THANK YOU LENE.

AND ALENE, I JUST WANT TO SAY, JUST AS A A A, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR SHARING, UM, YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, MY BEING LEFT OUT OF THE VIDEO HERE AT THE DEUS AS A POINT OF CORRECTION FOR THE PUBLIC.

I I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.

UM, HOW, HOWEVER, I AM A MEMBER OF THE PRESENTATION, UM, OF THIS TABLE DURING MEETINGS AND, UM, AND IT IS A MATTER OF OF RESPECT TO INCLUDE ME IN THE VIDEO.

AND DEAR BOWEN, HELLO.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, GOOD EVENING.

UM, I'M JUST COMING UP HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS.

UM, ONE THING I JUST WANNA MAKE A NOTE OF NOW, WOULD YOU MIND RAISING THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT? ? I'M TALL.

OH, OKAY.

ONE THING I DO WANNA MENTION, BECAUSE I KEEP FORGETTING.

UM, I DID SEE GINA THE OTHER DAY AND, UM, I DID THANK HER.

UM, THIS SUMMER WE HAD A LOT OF, UM, FAIRS, UM, IN DIFFERENT PARKS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I SAT DOWN AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND A LOT OF THESE PARKS, UM, WERE LACKING MAINTENANCE AND A LOT OF THINGS.

AND IT WASN'T UNTIL WE HAD THESE FUNCTIONS THAT ANYBODY PAID ATTENTION TO THE PARKS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO JUST THANKED HER, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT BECAUSE I BROUGHT A LOT OF ATTENTION TO WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE.

SO NOW THAT I'M PAST THAT, UM, I ALSO WANTED TO, I, I SPOKE WITH, UH, COLBY JENKINS EARLIER THIS WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALK OFF AND ON ABOUT THE FARMER'S MARKET, UM, EVER SINCE I THINK LAST YEAR WHEN IT, WHEN SHE WAS UP FOR THE POSITION, UM, AND FED WAS TRYING TO HELP HER OUT.

UM, AND SHE MENTIONED THAT THE BOARD WAS THINKING ABOUT, UH, MAYBE PUTTING REQUESTS OUT THERE FOR BIDS.

UM, WHAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS, IF YOU ARE GONNA DO THAT, UM, DOING IT EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, BECAUSE THIS YEAR THE, THE REQUEST WENT OUT SO LATE, IT DIDN'T GIVE ANYONE, UM, A AMPLE AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A FAIR RUN AT MANAGING A FARMER'S MARKET ADEQUATELY.

UM, SHE, SHE DID A LOT GIVEN THE TIME THAT SHE WAS GIVEN.

AND I FEEL THAT SHE SHOULD PROBABLY BE GIVEN MORE TIME WITH THAT CONSIDERATION THAT, UM, SHE STARTED A FARMER'S MARKET WHEN MOST FARMERS WERE ALREADY, THEY ALREADY MADE THEIR, UM, THEY ALREADY SIGNED UP FOR OTHER FARMER'S MARKETS.

SO TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION THAT GREENBERG STARTED THE TOWN HALL FARMER'S MARKET A LOT LATER AND PUT OUT THE BIDS A LOT LATER THAN ANY OTHER TOWN OR CITY WOULD HAVE, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

UM, ALSO THERE ARE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE TOWN EVER LOOKED INTO ALL THE GRANTS THAT THERE ARE OUT THERE, UM, FOR FARMER'S MARKETS, YOU KNOW, TO HELP VILLAGES AND COMMUNITIES PUT MONEY INTO THEIR FARMER'S MARKETS TO MAKE IT GREAT.

UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GRANTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OPEN THIS YEAR.

THEIR AWARDS GO FROM BETWEEN 10 TO 50,000 FOR MUNICIPALITIES.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MAY WANNA CONSIDER IF YOU WANNA MAKE THE TOWN HALL FARMER'S MARKET REALLY GREAT.

BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND PROBABLY KEEPING, YOU KNOW, GIVING COLBY CONSIDERATION BECAUSE SHE DID PUT IN A LOT OF WORK AT BASICALLY A NO WIN

[03:00:01]

SITUATION IT LOOKED LIKE FROM THE BEGINNING.

UM, SOMETHING ELSE I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, UM, REALLY QUICKLY.

IF I CAN REMEMBER, UM, THE NEW YORK, UM, POLICE PUBLIC RECORDS, GREENBURG PUBLIC, UM, POLICE DISCIPLINARY RECORDS.

I KNOW GREENBURG WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL TO SEE WHAT OTHER JUSTICES AROUND NEW YORK DID REGARDING THESE RECORDS.

LAST WEEK, UH, SYRACUSE, A JUDGE VOTED TO RELEASE THE RECORDS OF POLICE MISCONDUCT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER JUDGE THAT VOTED FOR MAKING THESE RECORDS PUBLIC, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK GREENBERG SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE LAWSUIT, WITH THE JOURNAL NEWS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE N Y C L U IS IN THAT, BUT MORE SO ACROSS NEW YORK STATE JUSTICES ARE SIDING WITH THE PUBLIC THAT WE DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW.

SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, WE REALLY SHOULD KNOW WHAT'S IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DISCIPLINARY RECORDS JUST FOR OUR OWN SAFETY AND CONSIDERATION.

SO HAVE A GREAT THANKSGIVING EVERYBODY.

YOU TOO.

THANKSGIVING.

WELL, BYE-BYE.

CLIFF ABRAMS. I JUST WANNA MENTION IN TERMS OF THE, UH, FARMER'S MARKET, UM, UH, CHRIS, MY SYSTEM, SHE'S GONNA HAVE A MEETING, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW WITH KOLBY, YOU KNOW, AROUND AROUND NOON.

UM, THE, IF COLBY WANTS TO HAVE THE FARMER'S MARKET HERE, UH, THE BOARD, BASICALLY THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD SAID THAT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

SHE DOESN'T SAY AT THE GREENBURG HOUSING AUTHORITY OR UM, SAY AT A HUNDRED MANHATTAN AVENUE AND IT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THE, THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE ANY, UH, OVERSIGHT OF THAT TYPE OF FARMER'S MARKET.

SO THERE WOULD, SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT LIKE IN A CHURCH OR ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

THANK YOU PAUL.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THAT MEETING THAT WE'RE HAVING TOMORROW WITH KOBE, UM, WAS INITIATED BY MYSELF, JUDITH BRAIL.

SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT MEETING.

CLIFF ABRAMS. YEAH.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, CLIFF ABRAMS, UM, I'M COMING HERE TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF NOW AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD OF COMMISSION, BUT AS A DISTRICT LEADER TOO.

'CAUSE THE DISTRICT LEADER IS HELP GUYS LIKE Y'ALL GET IN OFFICE, YOU KNOW, I'M FROM THE 46TH DISTRICT AND YOU KNOW, AND I CARRY A PETITION FOR JUDGES AND COUNCIL AND ASSEMBLY.

BUT I'M COMING HERE, YOU KNOW, I WANNA READ THIS AND THEN I GET TO WHERE I NEED TO SAY, HMM, WHAT IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF INJUSTICE, RACISM, ECONOMIC EQUALITY AND CLASS DISCRIMINATION, OR SOME OF THE ROOT CAUSE OF SOCIAL INJUSTICE.

BUT SOCIAL INJUSTICE CAN AFFECT ANYONE.

WHEN A GROUP WITH WEALTH, POWER OR AUTHORITY GIVE PREFERENCE TREATMENT TO ITS OWN GROUP OR A MEMBER OF OTHER GROUP, SOCIAL, SOCIAL INJUSTICE OCCUR.

YOU KNOW, AND WHEN I, WHEN I SAW THAT I, I WENT TO SAY BIBLE VERSES OR INJUSTICE AND THIS'S, WHAT CAME UP, YOU KNOW, JOE, UM, I CALLED YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES.

UM, I THINK I SENT YOU AN EMAIL AND I ASKED TO BE ON THE WORK SESSION AND I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU FIRST BEFORE I WENT ON A WORK SESSION BECAUSE I DO HAVE A 5 0 1 C THREE AND I GOT A PARTNERSHIP WITH SOMEBODY AND I WANTED TO GET ON A WORK SESSION.

'CAUSE I KNOW ELLEN AND THEM SAID THAT I NEEDED TO HAVE A 5 0 1 C THREE IN ORDER TO GET THE 15 THAT THE TOWN PUT IN AND THE 15TH AT THE, UM, COUNTY PITTED.

SO, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST OUT OF PROFESSIONAL COURTESY, I WISH YOU RETURN MY CALL AND I WILL SEND AN EMAIL AGAIN TOMORROW.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THANKSGIVING COMING, SO MAYBE NEXT WEEK.

SO I CAN REMEMBER.

I'VE BEEN ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE FOR OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

[03:05:01]

I DID LIKE DEVELOPMENTS.

I MEAN, I, I, UM, SPEARHEADED HONEST RACISM DISCUSSION ON RACISM IN GREENBURG THROUGH THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE.

I DID THE BAR OUT AT THE GREENBURG HOUSING AUTHORITY THROUGH THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE.

I DID THE MISPLACEMENT OF SENIORS THROUGH THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE.

AND SO I KNOW I GOTTA SAY FAST, MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

AND I TALKED TO LYNN GOODMAN AND SHE SAID, HEY CLIFF, YOU'RE NOT UM, A VOTE MEMBER.

AND I SAID, WHAT? SHE SAID, YEAH, YOU GOTTA GO TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THEY GOTTA INTERVIEW YOU TO BE A VOTE MEMBER TO BE ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE THAT I'VE BEEN ON FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

SO OF COURSE I GO TO THE MEETING, THIS BOARD HERE TAKES ME INTO THE CLOSED SESSION.

BUT I WAS ON VIDEO 'CAUSE I WAS AT WORK AND, UM, THEY NEVER ONCE ASKED ME WHY I WANT TO BE ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE.

KEN SAID TO ME, WELL CLIFF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T RESPECT YOUR POLITICIAN.

YOU KNOW HOW I DON'T RESPECT YOUR ACTIVISM AND I DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU SPEAK ON AND THAT YOU NEED TO STICK TO ACTIVISM.

I NEVER SAID THAT.

YOU AIN'T SUPPOSED TO INTERRUPT.

YOU GOTTA WAIT.

YOU NEED TO GIMME FIVE MORE SECONDS.

SO ANYWAY, BUT IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I'M ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD WITH KEN.

I'M A DISTRICT LEADER WITH KEN.

YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T NEED YOUR VALIDATION TO RESPECT ME BECAUSE I'M, I RESPECT MYSELF AND I GOT A HIGHER POWER OVER ALL OF Y'ALL AND MY COMMUNITY RESPECT ME.

BUT THIS IS YOUR BOARD WITH BOBBY OF GIULIANI COMMUNITY.

UM, HIS ADMINISTRATION WHEN HE DIDN'T SPEAK TO NO ACTIVIST.

I GO TO NEW ROCHELLE, I GO TO BROOKLYN, I GO TO THE BRONX, DERRICK CITY COUNCIL WORK WITH ACTIVISM, BUT FOR SOME ODD REASON, ACT PEOPLE COME HERE AND ACT, YOU KNOW, AND SPEAK UP FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU'LL SHUT THE MEETING DOWN.

YOU'LL GO ON YOUR PHONE LIKE KEN'S RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW? AND IF WE DON'T, WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER.

I'M NOT HERE TO FIGHT WITH Y'ALL AND I NEVER CAME HERE AND DID BEEN DISRESPECTFUL TO ANY OF Y'ALL, BUT I DO RE FIGHT FOR MY COMMUNITY EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T WANNA BE FOUGHT FOR, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M NOT FIGHTING FOR THEM.

I'M FIGHTING FOR THE ONES WHO DON'T HAVE A VOICE, YOU KNOW? AND I KNOW Y'ALL ONLY RESPECT CERTAIN PEOPLE.

SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE FROM FAIRVIEW THAT NEVER COME HERE TO SPEAK ON FAIRVIEW, Y'ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.

NEXT.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE NOW, UH, THE TOWN BOARD OF, IS THAT IT? NOBODY ELSE? NO, THIS IS THERE.

NO, SORRY.

THERE ARE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

NOBODY ON ZOOM.

TB ONE,

[ TB 1 - 11/21/2022 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh supporting the participation of the Arts and Culture Committee with Westchester County Arts Matching Program, ART$W Challenge, by matching the amount of $1,500, such funds are to be used in support of the Kids Short Story Connection Program]

UH, RESOLUTION OF TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG SUPPORTING THE PARTICIPATION OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE, UM, WITH THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY ARTS MATCHING PROGRAM ARTS, UM, CHALLENGED BY MATCHING THE AMOUNT OF $1,500 SUCH FUNDS TO BE USED IN SUPPORT OF THE KIDS SHORT STORY CONNECTION PROGRAM.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX ARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER HUDSON GRAY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT BUCKHEAD STREET.

[ AT 1 - 11/21/2022 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Hudson Grey LLC for property located at Buckhout Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $482±; the County’s share is $3,573±; the No. Yonkers Sewer District’s share is $525±; the Irvington Union Free School District’s share is $20,948±. Refunds from all sources total $25,529±.]

THE TOWN SHARE OF THE REFUND IS $482 REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES TOTAL 25,529.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

TAX TERTIARY SETTLEMENT, BUT PETITIONER SUNSHINE LEY CORP FOR PROPERTY LOCATED 4 95 YESTERDAY AVENUE, UM, REFUNDS FROM WALL SOURCES TOTAL 14,480.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING

[ AT 2 - 11/21/2022 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Sunshine Ardsley Corp. for property located at 495 Ashford Avenue. The Town’s share of the refund is $251±; the County’s share is $1,874±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $263±; the Ardsley Union Free School District’s share is $12,092±. Refunds from all sources total $14,480±.]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ONE IN FAVOR, AYE.

AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT AND PROPERTY DAMAGE RELATED CLAIM.

RESOLUTION

[ AT 3 – 11/21/2022 Resolution authorizing settlement of property damage related Claim, File No.: 141/22C, by Gloria Toeman, for an amount not to exceed $1,286.65]

UH, GLORIA TOMAN FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 12 86 65 I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD THAT OVER.

A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 7:30 PM DECEMBER 14TH TO CONSIDER A RATE INCREASE FOR THE CONSOLIDATED WHAT OF DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

A RESOLUTION, UM, SCHEDULING

[ CL 1 - 11/21/2022 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for 7:30 PM, Wednesday, December 14, 2022, to consider a Rate Increase for the Consolidated Water District #1]

PUBLIC HEARING FOR DECEMBER 14TH TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER FIVE 20 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AS IT RELATES TO THE NUMBER OF CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALTERNATES.

RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A

[ CL 2 - 11/21/2022 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, December 14, 2022, at 7:30 PM to consider a Local Law amending Chapter 520 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh as it relates to the number of Conservation Advisory Council members and alternates]

WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.

RESOLUTION.

[ CD 1 - 11/21/2022 Resolution issuing a Negative Declaration for the SEQRA determination of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh with respect to an Amended Site Plan and all related applications by Metropolis Country Club located at 289 Dobbs Ferry Road (P.O. White Plains, NY) (TB 22-04)]

UM,

[ CD 2 - 11/21/2022 Resolution approving, with conditions, an amended site plan and tree removal permit application by Metropolis Country Club, for property located at 289 Dobbs Ferry Road (P.O. White Plains, NY) (TB 22-04)]

CD ONE AND CD TWO.

WE'RE HOLDING, WE'RE HOLDING THE MOVE.

UM, ARE WE GONNA DO, UM, A RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE LEAF BLOWER FOR, UM, AND ALSO THE SMOKE SHOP ON THE 14TH? YES.

SO FOR, FOR THE LEAF BLOWER, WE MUST INTRODUCE THE LAWS, WHICH CAN BE DONE ON DECEMBER 14TH, WHICH

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IS THE NEXT MEETING.

I SENT OUT COPIES TODAY FOR YOUR REVIEW.

AND IN TERMS OF THE TOBACCO LAW WHERE THE HEARING WAS CLOSED, UM, THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME IN BETWEEN THE TWO MEETINGS TO HAVE THE PROPOSED LAW ON YOUR DESK FOR A TOTAL OF 10 DAYS.

SO TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T VIOLATING THE PROPER LAWS, THAT THAT DECISION'S BEING HELD OVER UNTIL DECEMBER 14TH AS WELL.

THIS IS THE DECISION, THERE'S NO MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON IT? THAT'S CORRECT.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PROFESSIONAL SERVICE,

[ CD 3 - 11/21/2022 Resolution authorizing a Professional Service Agreement with Barton & Loguidice, for Surveying and Engineering Design Services for a federal-aid project known as the East-West Hartsdale Avenue Transportation Improvement Project]

UM, UM, AGREEMENT WITH BARTON, WITH JUDAS FOR SERVING IN ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR A FEDERAL AID PROJECT KNOWN AS THE EAST WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.

A RETROACTIVE THAT'S BEING HELD OVER THAT'S HELD OVER

GRANTING

[ CD 4 - 11/21/2022 Resolution granting a retroactive extension of a Prior Amended Site Plan Approval for a new 4,800 sq. ft. storage building (previously approved as 5,253 sq. ft.) and related improvements to be constructed by Prospero Nursery for property located at 1120 Knollwood Road (P.O. Elmsford, NY)]

[ CD 5 - 11/21/2022 Resolution amending a prior condition of site plan approval related to a request by the Vista (“the Applicant”), associated with the shuttle bus service of an existing multi-family residential community known as “the Vista”]

CD FIVE RESOLUTION AMENDING A PRIOR CONDITION OF A SITE PLAN, APPROVAL REQUEST RELATED TO, UH, REQUEST BY THE VISTA, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHUTTLE BUS SERVICE OF AN EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY KNOWN AS THE VISTA.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE MOVE THAT SECOND.

SECOND AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE THE, WE COULD USE THE HUNDRED 20,000 FOR THE SIDEWALK THAT'S IN THERE.

OKAY? YES.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING FISCAL YEAR 2022.

THAT'S AND MOVE THAT.

[ CO 1 - 11/21/2022 Resolution authorizing Fiscal Year 2022 budget transfers]

AYE, AYE, AYE.

BUDGET TRANSFERS.

THE GREENBURG ARTS AND CULTURE TO REIMBURSE THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR JUNE, UH, 2022 JUNETEENTH, UM, CELEBRATION.

RESOLUTION.

ACCEPTING THE GRANT IN AMOUNT OF A THOUSAND FROM

[ PH 1 - 11/21/2022 Resolution accepting a grant in the amount of $1,000 from the Greenburgh Arts and Culture to reimburse the Town of Greenburgh for the 2022 Juneteenth Celebration]

SECOND IN FAVOR.

A A AYE, UM, UH, RESOLUTION

[ PO 1 - 11/21/2022 Resolution adopting the recommendation of the Greenburgh Police Department to Reduce the Posted Maximum Speed Limit to 25 MPH on Jean Lane, Barbara Lane, and Jennifer Lane, amending Chapter 460 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh]

ADOPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REDUCE THE POSTED MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT TO 25 MILES PER HOUR ON JEAN LANE, BARBARA LANE, AND JENNIFER LANE AMENDING FOUR 60 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

AUTHORIZING GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE REMOUNT AND REFURBISH AN EXISTING EMERGENCY MEDICAL VEHICLE AND RELATED EQUIPMENT.

RESOLUTION

[ PO 2 - 11/21/2022 Resolution authorizing the Greenburgh Police Department to Purchase, Remount, and Refurbish an Existing Emergency Medical Vehicle and Related Equipment]