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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]

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REVIEW.

I HAD A QUESTION OF, WHEN I SPOKE TO MARY JANE, SHE INDICATED SHE'S DRIVING, YOU KNOW, FROM ALBANY, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW.

AND, UM, THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE PUT ON THE AGENDA, UM, IF YOU KNOW MARY JANE IS LATE OR WHATEVER, UH, WE'LL INTERRUPT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MEETING AND WE'LL DO THE SWEARING.

AND WHEN SHE COMES IN, SO SHE'S A HALF HOUR LATER OR 45 MINUTES LATE, SHE'S COMING FROM ALBANY THIS WAY.

NOBODY'S GONNA SAY, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, UH, WE'RE SHOWING DISRESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY.

WELL, WE NEED, OH, WELL THEY'RE, WE CAN MAKE THE, I'M SORRY, GO ON.

I SAID, WHAT WE CAN DO IS, I, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FRONT AND TO SAY THAT WE MAY ADJUST FROM THE SCHEDULE MAY DEVI FROM THE SCHEDULE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SWEARING IN THAT'S HAPPENING.

SO I DON'T SAY WE COULD MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT FRONT.

I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE AT ANY POINT.

IF THEY'RE MIDDLE OF A PUBLIC HEARING, THEN YOU DON'T STOP THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SWEARING IN AND KEEP THESE STENOGRAPHER WAITING.

HOWEVER, HOWEVER, THAT IT MAY BE THAT THE MAJORITY LEADER AND THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WILL BE HERE.

AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE BECAUSE IT, AN INVITATION HAS GONE OUT FROM HER OFFICE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ALL KINDS OF SOCIAL MEDIA BESIDES OUR WEBSITE.

SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.

OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, THAT'S GREAT.

I WILL, I, IF WE'LL JUST TRY TO MAKE SURE SHE GETS GOING AT IT REASONABLE HOUR.

MM-HMM.

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RIGHT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE SHE'S NOT ONE GONNA, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY LEADERS SCHEDULING IS TOUGH AND SO IS THE COUNTY EXECUTIVES.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

WHATEVER.

SO IT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN.

LET'S JUST SEE.

BUT YES, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD CONSIDERATION.

BUT YEAH, I JUST WOULD RATHER, YOU KNOW, NOT MAKE HER, YOU KNOW, NO ONE WANTS HER TO WAIT, BUT WE DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT THE PUBLIC HEARING ONCE IT STARTED.

YEAH.

MAYBE ALSO ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE SO FAR FROM, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK ABOUT THE LEAF BLOWER, IT'S, I'D SAY IT'S LIKE 98% NEGATIVE.

YOU KNOW, OF COURSE IT'S WELL NEGATIVE AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING, UM, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE SHOULD POSTPONE NO, NO.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WE POSTPONE AND POSTPONE AND POSTPONE JUST KICKING A, WE JUST NEED TO DEAL WITH IT.

OKAY.

IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE POPULAR, BUT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE POPULAR AMONG THOSE OF US WHO LIKE PEACE AND QUIET.

RIGHT.

SO ONCE IT'S IMPLEMENTED, THAT'S THE REAL TEST.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS JUST THAT.

IT'S HEARING WHAT RESIDENTS HAVE TO SAY WHO DID NOT WRITE IN, LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION.

WOULD IT MAKE OR THOSE WHO DID? YEAH.

UH, SINCE THIS MEETING IS GONNA BE STARTING, I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY PRESENTATIONS AND OTHER THINGS, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO INDICATE THAT THE PEOPLE DON'T WANNA WAIT AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW THAT WILL EXTEND THE HEARING TO THE FOLLOWING MEETING AS WELL? SO THEY COULD SPEAK TOMORROW, OR THEY COULD SPEAK AT THE, THE FOLLOWING MEETING.

YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE TWO PUB TWO DATES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL LIKE 10:00 PM AND CAN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS WELL THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING.

AND IF WE CAN ASK THAT RESPECTFULLY, IF THEY ARE GOING TO REPEAT, IF THEY'RE COMING, COMING WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT THEY PICK A SPOKESPERSON TO SPEAK FOR THEM ALL MM-HMM.

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AND, UM, AND THAT IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY THAT'S BEEN SAID, AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME, AND IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT THE FOLLOWING WEEK TO WRITE AN EMAIL, OKAY.

MM-HMM.

MM-HMM.

.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD LET THE, THE, THE, THE RECIPIENTS OF THE PRESENTATIONS KNOW THAT THEY HAVE FIVE MINUTES EACH, THAT, THAT, THAT, OR, YOU KNOW, 10 MINUTE WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY, THAT THAT THIS FIRST PRESENTATION TO THE IRVINGTON HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS VARSITY SOCCER PROGRAM.

CAN THAT BE FIVE MINUTES? YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE EACH OF THE GIRLS SPEAK MINUTES.

WE HAVE THE COACH AND, AND THE, UM, CAPTAIN.

THAT'S FINE.

AND THEN WE'LL GIVE CERTIFICATE AND THEN WE'LL GIVE THE COACH THE CERTIFICATES TO THE WHOLE TEAM.

WE, WE'LL MAKE, WE'LL MAKE IT RIGHT.

WE'LL MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, QUICK.

AND THEN WE'LL LET MS. JOPLIN KNOW THAT SHE'S GOT FIVE MINUTES.

I, I TOLD HER IT WAS 10 MINUTES THAT, UM, SHE'LL KEEP TO THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO ARE WE COMMITTING TO FIVE MINUTES FOR THE, THE VARSITY SOCCER TEAM AND 10 MINUTES TO MS. JOPLIN? YEAH, I THINK YOU GOTTA DO 10 MINUTES .

IT'S GONNA BE 10 MINUTES FOR BOTH.

LET'S NOT 10 MINUTES FOR BOTH.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT, WHY DON'T WE, ON THE AGENDA, PUT IN 10 MINUTES, YOU KNOW, WRITE DOWN 10 MINUTES.

SO THIS WAY I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THAT, UH, ANYTIME THIS PRESENTATIONS.

SO THIS WAY WE SHOULD HAVE A STANDARD.

WE DO HAVE A STANDARD.

I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT IT WAS NO, BUT HE'S SAYING WHEN, WHEN WE WRITE IT DOWN LIKE IT IS HERE AT THE END IN PARENTHESES SAY 10 MINUTES.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THE, SO THE RECIPIENTS KNOW MM-HMM.

10 MINUTES, YOU KNOW, AND THEN

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I GUESS FOR MARY JAMES WOULD BE AN HOUR OR SOMETHING.

45 MINUTES.

OH, BE AN HOUR.

AN HOUR.

I HALF AN HOUR TO HALF AN HOUR TO 45 MINUTES AT THE MOST.

BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY LEADER AND THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WILL SPEAK.

I'M GONNA MAKE, I'LL MAKE MY, I I WON'T SAY VERY MUCH.

I'LL JUST DO A LITTLE BIT OF A CV THING.

IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE HERE AND THEY'RE SPEAKING, LET THEM HAVE THE TIME.

OKAY.

UM, WE CAN, WE CAN LIMIT, WE CAN'T TELL THEM EACH FIVE MINUTES OR WHATEVER ELSE WE CAN TELL THEM.

WE CAN GIVE ANOTHER TIME.

WELL, YEAH, WE CERTAINLY, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WILL HONOR THAT AS WELL AS WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH BOTH.

YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH.

I'M NOT EVEN, YEAH.

YEAH.

I DON'T THINK, DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD.

I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT THAT WE WOULDN'T, THEY PROBABLY WOULD APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

THEY KNOW EXACTLY THE TIME.

RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

I THOUGHT WE ANTICIPATED ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR FOR THIS THING.

RIGHT.

BUT IF WE EVEN ON THE AGENDA, IF WE START SAY LIKE 45 MINUTES SWEARING IN POLICE DEPARTMENT, SAY, WE SAY THAT'S A HALF HOUR.

NO, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S GONNA BE ABOUT 10 MINUTES.

SAY YOU SAY 15 MINUTES.

BUT I'M SAYING IF WE START, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

AGENDA.

OH, THAT'S A'S GREAT IDEA.

THE NOTES 10 TIME FRAME'S.

GREAT IDEA.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

STARTING LEFT ON A ROLL.

MAYBE I'LL, THANK GOD HE WAS HERE.

YEAH.

.

NOW IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE CAR MOVING, YOU ENFORCE IT TOMORROW NIGHT.

EXACTLY.

WELL THAT'S THE THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE REAL TEST.

I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

THIS IS GREAT.

LET'S, WE'RE GONNA GIVE JOE THE GAVEL.

ALRIGHT.

UM, THIS IS LIKE THE BEST MEETING OF MY LIFE SO FAR.

UM, OKAY.

NEXT, UM, OH MY EYES.

OKAY.

UH, JOE, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE THE TAX ASSESSMENT OF THE CONDOS AND CO-OP, THE NEW ONES THAT, THAT LAW.

YEAH.

WE'RE, WE JUST SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR JANUARY 25TH.

THAT LAW WILL BE SENT TO YOU AT LEAST 10 DAYS IN ADVANCE, SO WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS FOR YOUR REVIEW.

RIGHT.

UH, BUT IT MOSTLY MIMICS THE WORDING OF THE STATE LAW SINCE WE'RE JUST OPTING INTO WHAT THE STATE'S ALLOWING US TO DO.

THE STATE.

THIS IS FOR STATE LAW FOR, FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG MOND.

YES.

THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

YES.

YES.

CORRECT.

NOT THE STATE LAW THAT THE GOVERNOR DID NOT SIGN.

CORRECT, YES.

THE STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS, SHOULD BE THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO OPT IN.

MM-HMM.

TO HAVE NEW CONDOS AND CO-OPS BE SUBJECT TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD OF TAX ASSESSMENT.

CORRECT.

DO THIS APPLY TO VILLAGES? YES.

IT WAS.

SO EVERYBODY, YES.

BECAUSE IT APPLIES TO THE ASSESSMENT ROLE AND THE VILLAGES HAVE ADOPTED OUR ASSESSMENT ROLE AS OF 2016, AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO IN 2023 AND AFTERWARDS.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE SUPERVISOR ADVISE THE, THE VILLAGE MAYORS DEAN AHEAD OF TIME AND THE, THE ASSESSOR DID ALREADY SEND AN EMAIL TO ALL THE VILLAGES AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS INFORMING THEM THAT THE CHIEF WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.

SIX TWO.

YEAH.

I THINK MOST OF THEM WERE, I, THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION.

I BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERING.

YEAH, I THINK THEY WERE WHEN ON THE B O C WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, WAY BACK WHEN, IT'S JUST NOW IT'S HAPPENED .

RIGHT.

BUT I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO JUST AT LEAST NOTE NOTIFY ALL THE VILLAGES.

UM, YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THE ISSUES WITH MY BROTHER'S KEEPER CONTRACT IS BEING, HAS BEEN WORKED OUT AND AND THEY'RE GONNA VOTE ON THAT TONIGHT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

THEIR MEETING IS ACTUALLY IN HALF AN HOUR, AND THE ATTORNEY WROTE BACK TO ME, ALL THE PROPOSED EDITS HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED.

OKAY.

AND, AND YOU WERE ALL GIVEN A COPY, I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME WAS MM-HMM.

WITH THE RED LINE, WITH THE, IS THIS THE NEW VERSION? YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I ASKED JOAN TO PRINT THAT, WHICH IS IN THE LAST TWO HOURS OR SO.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IT, IT'S RED LINE THOUGH.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE CHANGES SINCE THE LAST VERSION.

WELL, MORE OR LESS , EXCEPT IT'S NOT IN COLOR.

.

OKAY.

IT'S BLACK LINE.

RIGHT.

BLACK LINE.

OKAY.

THIS IS GREAT.

SO THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE IT HAS INDEMNIFICATIONS FOR THE TOWN AS WELL AS FOR THE SCHOOL.

AND GOOD CATCHES, FRANCIS.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THIS IS GOOD.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

SHOULD BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.

WE LOVE THIS .

SO NEXT WE HAVE, UH, TOO MUCH.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, FRANK LIBIDO.

ALRIGHT.

TALK ABOUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR LET IT BE KNOWN THAT WE'RE FOUR MINUTES EARLY ON.

STOP.

STOP SO FAR.

STOP.

LET'S KEEP IT GOING.

SO, FRANK, YOU'RE ON, YOU'RE ON THE TIME CLOCK.

.

I GOT IT.

OKAY.

THE QUESTION, IF YOU CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE ON, UM, THIS BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, YOU WANNA GIVE US A SUMMARY? CAN, DO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED FOR THE, UH, GREENBERG SUNDAY OKAY.

THIS WEEKEND.

AND THEN IF YOU COULD TALK ABOUT OVERWEIGHT VEHICLES OKAY.

AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THOSE YEP.

AND JUST PULL THE MIC CLOSER TO YOU SO I CAN HEAR YOU CLOSE.

AND ALSO, UH,

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WATER PRESS THE BOAT.

PRESS.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

FOR THE, UH, GREENBERG HOUSING WAS THE CIRCULATED MOTOR.

SAY WHO YOU ARE.

JUST SAY GOOD EVENING, MIKE.

GOOD EVENING.

LIBIDO BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

BUILDING INSPECTOR.

BUILDING INSPECTOR, UH, FOR THE GREENBERG HOUSING WAS A CIRCULATOR MOTOR.

APPARENTLY ONE OF THEIR WATER, IT'S INSIDE BASEBALL.

YEAH.

WHAT WAS THE CIRCULATOR? CIRCULATOR MOTORS, UH, SYSTEM THAT PUMPS THE WATER THROUGH THE 10 UNITS THAT WERE EIGHT UNITS THAT ARE DOWN AT THE, UH, 1 0 1 MANHATTAN AVENUE.

OKAY.

UM, AND IT FAILED, IT APPARENTLY WENT UNDERWATER UNDER FLOODING A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND IT POSSIBLY FAILED FROM THAT POINT.

MM-HMM.

, UM, THEY REPLACED THE MOTOR ON THAT AND, UH, THE CIRCULATOR OF HOT WATER AND HEAT BOTH CAME BACK UP, UH, AS OF, UH, TUESDAY.

OKAY.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE GREENBERG HOUSING? IT DID NOT, IT DIDN'T COME BACK UP ON MONDAY.

UH, MONDAY, WHAT WAS IT? TUESDAY? THIS IS TUESDAY, MONDAY.

SO SUNDAY I GOT CALLED MONDAY, I'M SORRY.

ALRIGHT.

MONDAY, FRIDAY IT WAS DOWN.

AND THEN, YEAH.

SO FRIDAY, APPARENTLY FRIDAY, THIS HEAT AND HOT WATER SYSTEM WAS OFF WITH COMPLAINTS NOT GIVEN TO US.

I THINK IT WAS A COMPLAINT WAS.

YEAH.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH ME IS, UM, UH, SUNDAY, AROUND, BACK UP, LITTLE BIT SUNDAY, AROUND THREE O'CLOCK, UM, OR FOUR O'CLOCK, FOUR O'CLOCK, UM, I GOT A EMAIL FROM NEWS 12 AND THEY SAID SOME TENANTS WERE COMPLAINING THAT THEY HAD NO HEAT AND HOT WATER.

MM-HMM.

, THEY SAID, I NEVER HEARD OF THAT.

UM, AND SUPPOSEDLY, SO THEN I SAID, WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE PERSON TO CALL ME? SO, UH, THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY CALLED ME LIKE A HALF HOUR LATER AND, UH, I WAS SORT OF PLEASED BECAUSE I SAID, OH, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

SO I CALLED FRANK.

SO I EMAILED FRANK AND THEN HE SHOWED UP AND I CALLED, UH, CHIEF POWELL, AND I ASKED, UH, YOU KNOW, KNOW THE CO THE CHIEF IF, UH, WE COULD, UM, CREATE LIKE A WARMING CENTER AT THE CENTER OR TRANSPORT PEOPLE TO THEIR, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR HO THEIR HOMES.

AND I, I SPOKE, I ONLY GOT ONE CALL FROM ONE WOMAN.

SO I SPOKE TO HER A FEW TIMES AND UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK SHE WAS GETTING LIKE AN ELECTRIC, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PORTABLE HEATERS.

YEAH.

THE FACILITY WAS PROVIDING ELECTRICAL, HEAT, TEMPORARY.

YEAH.

THEY WERE GETTING THAT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REAL PROBLEM THAT I SEE WAS THAT PEOPLE WERE UNABLE TO REACH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

THE EMERGENCY SYSTEM WAS NOT, IT WAS NOT REALLY WORKING.

SO I FEEL THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE LESSON FROM THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A SYSTEM IN PLACE WHERE IF A TENANT BASE , CAN I MAKE CLEAR OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY NEEDS A SYSTEM IN PLACE.

AND JUST, JUST TO PREFACE THIS, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE SUPERVISOR WAS BEING VERY HUMANITARIAN AND TAKING CARE OF GETTING THE BUILDING INSPECTOR TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM.

BUT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS RESPONSIBLE, NOT THE TOWN.

CORRECT? NO, THAT, SIR.

OKAY.

SO WHEN DID THE HEATERS COME? I JUST, I'M NOT TRYING TO, WHEN, SO THEY RECEIVED THE HEATERS THE FRIDAY NIGHT? NO, THEY RECEIVED THE HEATERS WHEN I SHOWED UP THERE.

AND WHEN DID YOU SHOW? NIGHT? SUNDAY NIGHT.

SO NO HEAT? NO HEAT, NO.

BETWEEN FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN PAUL GOT THE CALL TO SUNDAY.

WHEN WHEN THE HEATER, WHEN THE HEATERS WHEN I GOT THE CALL.

SUNDAY? YEAH.

OH, YOU GOT THE CALL SUNDAY, SUNDAY AFTERNOON.

RESPONDED WITHIN LIKE FIVE MINUTES.

SO THE THING IS, UH, MAYBE'S WHY WE, I'M SORRY.

SOMETHING.

SO THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, HE BASICALLY SHOWED UP, UH, HE GAVE IT ATTENTION.

HE GOT THE PROBLEM RESOLVED.

BUT THE ISSUE IS IT REALLY WASN'T YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

IT'S THE HOUSING AUTHORITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN MAINTENANCE WHO COULD BASICALLY ANSWER THE PHONE CALLS.

AND WE NEED TO WORK, YOU KNOW, WITH A HOUSING AUTHORITY ON SETTING UP A SYSTEM.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, PE FIRST OF ALL, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN THINK OF CALLING US.

SO THIS WOMAN, SHE WAS DISABLED.

SHE'S DISABLED.

THE ONE WHO CALLED ME, HER PARENTS IN A WHEELCHAIR, DISABLED.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT, SHE DIDN'T EVEN, SO I SAID TO HER, WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL ME? SHE SAID, IT WAS SUNDAY.

I DIDN'T WANT HER BOTHER YOU ON A WEEKEND.

I SAID, YOU, YOU SHOULDN'T CALL US.

I SAID THAT.

BUT THE THING IS, THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY NOT TO HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE WHERE FRONT, WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY? THE SCARY PART IS THAT THEY'RE, I THINK THEY WERE HEATING THE HOUSES WITH THEIR OVENS, WHICH IS A DANGER.

THAT'S YES.

MM-HMM.

.

VERY DANGEROUS.

VERY DANGEROUS.

YOU KNOW, WE WALKED IN THE ONE THAT WAS 85 DEGREES AND THE HEATER WAS ICE COLD.

SO WE HAD ASKED, HOW DO YOU HEAT THE HOUSE? SAID THE OVEN IS THE ONLY SOURCE OF HEAT.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL SPACE.

AND THE PERSON WAS CLEARLY DISABLED.

UM, AND THE, THE PLACE WAS WARM, IT WAS 75 DEGREES.

BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S SUCH A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE.

THERE WAS ANOTHER PERSON WHO WENT OUT AND GOT THEIR OWN HEATER, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE A TIP PROTECTION ON IT.

AND IT WAS RIGHT NEAR THE COUCH, UH, HEATING THE PLACE.

SO THERE'S A REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY DEFINITELY NEED NOT JUST AN ANSWERING MACHINE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE EMAILS I SAW WAS THEY WERE LEAVING MESSAGES ON

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THIS ANSWERING MACHINE, THIS EMERGENCY NUMBER.

NO ONE WAS GETTING BACK.

AND ONE OF THE LAST THINGS THEY SAID IS, IF YOU DON'T RESPOND, I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEDIA.

AND THEN THEY CALLED THE MEDIA.

THE MEDIA CALLED PAUL.

PAUL CALLED FRANK MARDO BILLY INSPECTOR.

AND THAT'S HOW IT GOT RESOLVED.

BUT IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT.

AND THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE POLICE, IT SHOULD NOT TAKE THAT.

WELL, YOU CALL THE POLICE.

YEAH.

SO, SO ARE, ARE YOU, I DIDN'T WANT'S THAT'S FINE.

SO THE REPAIR, IS THAT A RE THE REPAIR, THE EMERGENCY REPAIR? COULD THAT HAVE BEEN DONE THE FRIDAY NIGHT? YES.

OR COULD IT HAVE BEEN, IT HAD TO WAIT TILL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S TODAY.

TUESDAY.

TUESDAY.

IT COULD HAVE, WAIT, IT COULD HAVE BEEN REPAIRED RIGHT THERE.

THESE ARE PARTS ON DEPOT HAVE IN STOCK.

YEAH.

THESE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL PARTS.

WE DEFINITELY, ANYBODY WHO HAS HOT WATER, HEAT, BASEBOARD, HEAT.

MM-HMM.

, UH, HAS A RECIRCULATE THAT MOVES THAT WATER AND IT SHOULD NOT BE A DIFFICULTY.

WE WERE OUT THERE, UH, SUNDAY NIGHT AND THEY COULDN'T GET A HOLD OF A PLUMBER.

WELL, THEY NEED A DIFFERENT PLUMBER, RIGHT? YEAH.

'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND 24 7.

SO WE, WE STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT HAS FOUR, LOOK AT THEIR, UM, THEIR SYSTEM AND, AND SET SOMETHING UP THAT WILL WORK BETTER SO THAT WHEN THEIR EMERGENCIES LIKE THIS, IT CAN, I SUGGEST, HAD SUGGESTED THAT THEY GO THROUGH ALL THEIR BUILDINGS AND LOOK AT ALL THE MAINTENANCE CONDITIONS.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS SITUATION ON SUNDAY.

THIS ISN'T EVEN AN OLD BUILDING.

NO, THIS IS, THIS IS THE NEW ONE.

DEDICATED WHILE I WAS STILL, WHILE I WAS ON THE BOARD.

SO IT CAN'T BE THAT LONG.

IT'S LESS THAN 10 YEARS.

IT'S LESS THAN 10 YEARS.

BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S LESS THAN 10 YEARS.

NO, NO.

IT'S LIKE HE SAID THE BORDER THOUSAND SEVEN, 2000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE I GOT HERE.

OH, OKAY.

SO 15 YEARS, 2006 AND 2000 SOMETHING.

ARE, ARE YOU, HOW MANY LIKE HEAT AND HOT WATER, UH, COMPLAINTS DO YOU GET? ARE YOU GETTING THEM ALL OVER THE TOWN? YOU KNOW, WE MENTIONED, NO, NOT TOO MANY.

WE'VE GOT ONLY THREE THIS YEAR SO FAR ON TOP OF THE GREENBERG HOUSING ONE, BUT THREE OUTSIDE OF THE GREENBERG HOUSING, THAT'S ALL.

SO TALK TO US ABOUT OVERWEIGHT TRUCKS.

SO THE OVERWEIGHT VEHICLES, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? DO PEOPLE, UH, ARE THERE LIKE STICKERS IN THE HALL OF DIFFERENT BUILDINGS SAYING IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW, CALL THIS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M SORT OF WONDERING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROBLEM THAT I SEE WITH WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, IS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING ON FRIDAY THEY WERE TRYING TO CALL.

SO IT'S FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, AND THEY DIDN'T GET RESPONSES TILL SUNDAY.

WE CAN'T GUARANTEE, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE PROB, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE SOME SORT OF PROBLEM.

SO I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE HAD LIKE STICKERS ON, YOU KNOW, IN THE HALLS OF EACH, YOU KNOW, BUILDING SAYING IF THERE'S, UH, AN EMERGENCY CALL THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, IF YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH, UH, CALL, UM, YOU KNOW, EITHER THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR CALL THE POLICE AND THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING.

SO THIS WAY PEOPLE WILL IMMEDIATELY CALL MM-HMM.

.

AND IF THE POLICE THEN ARE TOLD TO CALL YOU, THEN YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE LIKE A BACKUP PLAN THAT'S, IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT AS A BACKUP PLAN.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE, THAT COULD BE PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

IN ADDITION TO UPGRADING THEIR, THEIR EMERGENCY PROCEDURES INFORMATION.

YEAH.

THE PROCEDURE HAVE TO, BECAUSE THIS IS OKAY TO BACK, I'LL, I'LL TAKE ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

YEAH, KEN HAS 'EM TO THEM.

OKAY.

NOT THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

NOT THE NEXT MEETING.

I'LL DO IT TOMORROW.

SO, SO, SO KEN AS LIAISON WILL RELAY THAT INFORMATION, PAUL MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

AND MAYBE THEY CAN BRING US A COPY BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS BE HANDLED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BECAUSE WHEN IT GETS TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR GOES OUT THERE AND SEES THESE UNSAFE CONDITIONS WITH THE STOVE, HE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO ISSUE IN VIOLATION AND THE COURTS SO THAT THERE'S A RECORD THAT THIS IS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS OPPOSED TO, OH, YOU KNOW, DON'T DO IT NEXT TIME.

YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS THE STOVE WITH THE FLAME, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT WAS JUST, YEAH, THAT WAS JUST TOO MUCH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS WAITING TO BE A DISASTER.

HAVE YOU ISSUED ANY VIOLATIONS? YES.

THEY GET A VIOLATION.

YES.

YES.

OKAY.

YES.

SHOWED US THE TICKET.

DO YOU HAVE LIKE HOME PHONE NUMBERS OF LIKE THE, THE MAINTENANCE PEOPLE WHO UH, YES.

THEY HAVE ALL THEIR CELL PHONE NUMBERS.

THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE ON STAFF.

OKAY.

WELL I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB AND YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU IMMEDIATELY ON A WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, SHOWED UP AND YOU RESPONDED, YOU KNOW, WITHIN MINUTES.

THANK YOU, FRANK.

THANK YOU.

FRANK TALKED TO US ABOUT WHITE TRUCKS.

SO THE AWAY VEHICLES LEAVING, UH, REGENERON SITE MM-HMM.

, THEY'RE GOING OVER, YOU KNOW, LIKE 20,000 POUNDS OVER THE LEGAL LIMIT WEIGHT OF THE VEHICLE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UM, THE TRAFFIC SERGEANT WHO WAS GONNA LOOK INTO THE SCALES AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT ENDED UP, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH THE SCALING STUFF, BUT, UH, I TOLD REGENERON TO MAKE SURE THE VEHICLES LEAVE AT THE LEGAL LIMIT

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MM-HMM.

, BECAUSE SAFETY ONE.

MM-HMM.

TWO IS, YOU KNOW, UM, COMPOUNDING THE ROAD MM-HMM.

CRUSHING ALL THE CURBS MM-HMM.

RIGHT.

OUR ORDER SYSTEM.

ANOTHER, ANOTHER DISASTER WAITING TO YES.

MM-HMM.

HOW DID THEY RESPOND TO WHEN YOU SPOKE TO THEM? WELL, I WENT OUT THERE TODAY AND THE TRUCKS WERE LEAVING AT 74,000.

YOU KNOW, IT SAYS A 90 LEGAL NINE SEVEN.

YEAH.

80,000.

80,000.

YEP.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THEY'RE MONITORING THAT NOW.

OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD PERIODICALLY CHECK AND JUST LET US KNOW YEP.

THAT THEY'RE YEP.

BEING ATTENTIVE TO THAT.

THANKS.

YES.

COULD, COULD YOU JUST TO PUT A, A, UM, CONTEXT TO WHY OVERWEIGHT VEHICLES ARE ARE NOT GOOD OTHER THAN THEY CRUSH OUR ROADWAYS.

YEAH.

WHICH ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR.

SO USING THE, UH, NINE A YEAH.

SO THE, UH, THE BRAKING SYSTEM ON THE VEHICLES ARE DESIGNED FOR A CERTAIN WEIGHT CAPACITY AND THAT IF THEY'RE EXCEEDED, THEY GET TREMENDOUSLY HOT.

AND THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THE TRUCK FLIP OVERS HAPPENED FROM, IS FROM THE OVERHEATED BRAKES THAT THEY CAN'T STOP.

SO USUALLY THEY TYPICALLY, THEY RUN INTO A CURB OR RUN INTO A CAR TO TRY TO SLOW THE VEHICLE DOWN.

MM-HMM.

, WHICH IS WAY OVERWEIGHT, WHICH CAUSES A, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES A VERY LARGE TRAGEDY LIKE A NINE 80.

THE OTHER DAY UP IN MOUNT PLEASANT, THAT VEHICLE WAS OVERWEIGHT AND IT FLIPPED AND IT FLIPPED OVER AND IT CRUSHED THE CAR.

YEAH.

TWO PEOPLE GOT INJURED.

WELL, I, JUST TO PUT AN EXCLAMATION POINT ON THAT, NOT HERE, BUT OUT IN CALIFORNIA, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW WAS IN, IN A, AN S SUV.

NO, ACTUALLY A PICKUP TRUCK WHEN THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.

AND SHE ALMOST, SHE WAS ALMOST KILLED.

SHE WAS HOSPITALIZED FOR SIX MONTHS.

SO, AND HAD MANY SURGERIES.

SO YEAH, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

THEN THERE'S ALSO THE DEGRADING OF THE ROADWAY, CORRECT? MM-HMM.

.

YEP.

BECAUSE OF THE WAY ALL UTILITIES, ONLY UTILITIES UNDER THE GROUND, THE SEWER SYSTEMS AND WATER SYSTEMS ARE CONDUITS MM-HMM.

THAT CAN GET, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE POTHOLES, POTHOLES, YOU KNOW, MORE OF THE WATER SYSTEM BECAUSE OF THAT CREATES A PROBLEM FOR US.

RIGHT.

BUT FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE INCONVENIENCE EVERYDAY TRAVELER, WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IS THE POTHOLES.

SO JUST THAT'LL STICK INTO, IN PEOPLE'S MINDS, HOW HAS THAT OLD COLONY ROAD SITUATION, IT'S STILL STOP WORK ORDER UP THERE, WAITING FOR SOME BONDING ISSUES.

THEY GET DONE THROUGH ENGINEERING.

THEY'RE NOT THE STOP ORDER, THE STOP WORK ORDERS HAVE NOT BEEN LIFTED YET.

THEY'RE STILL IN PLACE.

AND OVERWEIGHT VEHICLES IS AN ISSUE THERE AS WELL.

THERE'S GONNA BE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VEHICLES UP ON THAT ROADWAY TO FILL IN THAT SITE.

WOW.

RIGHT.

CLOSE TO A THOUSAND VEHICLES WOW.

GOING UP THERE.

BUT THEY'RE LEARNING THAT, UM, THE BILLING DEPARTMENT IS NOW NOT WORKING NINE TO FIVE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

IT'S SATURDAY, SUNDAYS, CHRISTMAS, YOU NAME IT.

SOMETHING ILLEGAL.

YEP.

WE HAD A CONTRACTOR OUT AT ONE OF THE SITES TAKING, UH, WATER FILLING 10,000 GALLON TANKERS OFF OUR HYDROGEN SYSTEM.

RIGHT.

WHICH IS TIMES 10 TIMES.

WOW.

YOU KNOW, HYDRO SEEDING THE PROPERTIES.

WOW.

NO BACKFLOW, WHICH CREATES, YOU KNOW, DAMAGE TO OUR SYSTEM ALSO AND THE RESIDENTS WORSE.

SO THAT GOT STOPPED ON SATURDAY.

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS, LIKE WHEN YOU FLUSH THE HYDRANTS MM-HMM.

, THE WATER GOES BROWN, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.

BECAUSE OF THE FLUSHING.

PEOPLE ARE WONDERING WHY IS THAT WATER BROWN? AND IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WATER LY TAKING WATER OUT OF IOWA FOR THE OLD COLONY ROAD.

DO WE HAVE LIKE TIME LIMITS? UH, WHEN TIME PERIODS, WHEN THEY'RE ALLOWED? IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THESE TRUCKS, IT PROBABLY IS GOOD.

THAT'S A NARROW ROAD AND PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO GO CRAZY.

AND THE, UH, ENGINEER ARE WORKING ON THAT FOR THE FILL PERMIT.

THEY'RE MAKING MORE, UH, AGGRESSIVE IONS IN THAT FOR THE FILL.

SO THE VEHICLES AREN'T STAGING ON THAT LITTLE ROAD OR NOT, YOU KNOW, TYING UP THAT LITTLE ROAD.

SO WE SHOULD REALLY, UH, DO SOME OUTREACH TO OUTREACH TO THAT COMMUNITY AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.

AND THEN MAYBE THEY SHOULD EVEN BE MEETING WITH THE, YOU KNOW, POLICE AND WITH YOU AND THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS APPROVED.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING.

UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE COULD WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE IT LEAST PAINFUL AS POSSIBLE.

'CAUSE THAT'S A GOOD, AND FURTHER, IF THEY SEE SOMETHING LIKE TYING INTO OUR HYDRANTS ILLEGALLY, THEY CAN BE MADE AWARE AND THEY CAN MAKE US AWARE IF WE'RE, BECAUSE THE INSPECTOR CAN'T BE THERE FULL TIME.

YEAH.

I THINK THE COMMUNITY HAS A VERY GOOD NETWORK THERE AND THEY'RE ON TOP OF IT AND THEY APPRECIATE WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.

YEP.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE TWO MINUTES OVER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE TO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ONE MINUTE OVER.

ALRIGHT, YOU WELCOME YOU WALTER.

THANK YOU.

BEFORE I START, I WANT TO THANK FRANK BECAUSE I BLEW THE WHISTLE ABOUT COLONY ROAD.

HE WAS OUT THERE THE NEXT SECOND, THE SAME .

SO HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB FOR US.

GREAT.

SPEAKING TO THE MIC.

, LEMME SWAP MIC.

SO WE CAN THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME TONIGHT.

AND I WILL ONLY SPEND 15 MINUTES UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS GO MM-HMM.

WANT TO TALK ABOUT MORE.

UM, BASICALLY I WANNA GIVE YOU AN ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE PLANNING BOARD

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FOR LAST YEAR AND THEN DISCUSS THREE SUBJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON OUR MIND FOR, UH, THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

FIRST OF ALL, LAST YEAR WE DID 46 PROJECTS, 27 PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE HAD NO PROJECTS DELAYED DUE TO SCHEDULING NONE.

AND WE ONLY WENT OVER TIME TWICE.

I THINK IT WAS FOR THREE MINUTES.

UM, SO WE WERE VERY PRODUCTIVE LAST YEAR.

VERY PROUD, PROUD OF OUR BOARD FOR THAT.

WE TACKLED SEVERAL VERY COMPLEX PROJECTS.

ELMWOOD WAS A VERY, UH, COMPLEX PROJECT.

THE FIRST, UH, APPLICATIONS THAT OF THE NEW BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY LAW THAT WAS VERY COMPLEX, ESPECIALLY DEALING WITH THE FIRE DISTRICT ON THAT.

UM, THE FIRST FUEL CELL APPLICATION, WHICH WE DON'T YET HAVE ANY LEGISLATION AND WE HAD TO FEEL OUR WAY THROUGH THAT AND HAVE AN EXPERT HELP US THROUGH THAT.

THE MIDWAY RECONFIGURATION AND TRAFFIC IMPROVE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH I THINK IS BIG STEP FORWARD AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR GUYS HELP ON THAT AS WELL.

AND YOUR, YOUR, UH, SUGGESTIONS ON THAT.

AND THE OLD COLONY ROAD SUBDIVISION, WHICH STARTED BY THE WAY, AS A 10 LOT SUBDIVISION, WENT TO FIVE, WENT TO FOUR, AND WE GOT SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ON TOP OF IT ALL.

WHERE IT IS NOW IS VERY DISAPPOINTING TO THE PLANNING BOARD.

IT'S VERY SAD WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.

THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL KEY RECOMMENDATIONS WE DID LAST YEAR.

THE MARIJUANA LAW, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, AND SUSTAINABLE ENERGY COMMITTEE.

AND I'LL DISCUSS THOSE IN A SECOND.

SO THE THREE SUBJECTS I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON, UH, TODAY, ONE RESUME PARTICIPATION.

'CAUSE PAUL BROUGHT OUT A LETTER THAT I HAD WRITTEN BACK IN SEPTEMBER TO THIS BOARD.

AND JOE AND I HAVE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS FOR THE RECORD, THE, THE PLANNING BOARD IS OPERATING UNDER THE CURRENT LAW AFTER SEEKING A LEGAL OPINION FROM JOE.

UH, WE HAVE ALSO IMPLEMENTED A LIMIT OF HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE BY ZOOM BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO THE SAME PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ZOOM EVERY TIME.

SO IT'S A 25% OF THE TIME THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE THAT WAY.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A BOARD RULE.

UM, THE OPINION THAT JOE GOT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, OR MS. JOE WAS FROM THE, THE ASSOCIATION OF TALENT'S ATTORNEY, I BELIEVE.

RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT SHE, SHE CONFIRMED MY OWN LEGAL ANALYSIS AS WELL.

RIGHT.

THAT WAS IMPLICIT IN THE LAW.

OKAY.

UM, THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE, I HAD CONSULTED WITH TWO ATTORNEYS WHEN I SAW THE LAW.

ONE OF WHICH WRITES A HAS WRITTEN A LOT OF LAWS FOR THE TOWN.

MIKE SIEGEL, THE OTHER ONE WHO IS ALSO DOING SOME GOOD LEGAL WORK FOR THE TOWN.

MY WIFE.

OKAY.

JANET LYNN.

OKAY.

BOTH OF WHOM THOUGHT THE, THE LAW WAS LACKING.

MY ONLY THOUGHT HERE IS LAW SHOULD BE EXPLICIT, NOT IMPLICIT.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST YOU MODIFY THE LAW TO SPECIFICALLY AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN VOTE VIA ZOOM.

THAT'S ALL I ASK UP TO YOU WE'RE OPERATING UNDER THE LAW AS BASED ON LEGAL ADVICE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPROVED IF IT WAS EXPLICIT, NOT IMPLICIT.

THE MARIJUANA LAW.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PLANNING BOARD DISAGREES WITH YOUR DECISION ON COMMISSARIES.

HOWEVER, IT, AND I'M HOPING THAT ONCE WE SEE WHAT THE LANDSCAPE IS AND IN OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES OVER THE NEXT 12 OR 18 MONTHS, WE CAN REVISIT THAT TO SEE IF IT REALLY, WE REALLY ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE THERE.

BUT THERE'S NO NEED TO DISCUSS ANY MORE OF THAT.

HOWEVER, THERE SEEMS TO BE A MISCONCEPTION THAT THIS, THAT THE PLANNING BOARD HAD SAID THAT THE TOWN BOARD HADN'T DONE ITS DUE DILIGENCE.

THAT COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS THE FACT, IN OUR OWN INVESTIGATION, WE DISCOVERED DURING OUR INVESTIGATION THAT THERE WERE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES RELATING TO THE PROCESSING AND GROWING OF MARIJUANA.

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMMISSARIES.

UM, THEY TEND TO USE A, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER AND ELECTRIC SPECIFICALLY.

AND THERE ALSO MAY BE SOME POLLUTION ISSUES.

BUT THE, THE KEY THING IS WATER AND ELECTRIC USAGE, WHICH IS WHY WE RECOMMENDED IT TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT THEY'RE HIRING EXPERT TO HELP CRAFT THAT.

'CAUSE THERE IS AN ENERGY PLAN REQUIRED IN THE NEW LAW, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE STANDARDS SHOULD BE.

OKAY.

AND IT NEEDS, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

MM-HMM.

, THAT'S WHY WE REQUESTED AN EXPERT AT THE TIME.

AND THAT'S ALL WE EVER SAID.

WE NEVER SAID THIS BOARD WAS, WE DON'T DO THAT.

OKAY.

WE CAN DISAGREE AND WE HAVE SEVERAL TIMES IN THE LAST YEAR.

THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE WAY WHERE THE SYSTEM WORKS.

OKAY.

WE'RE NOT GONNA AGREE ALL THE TIME.

BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE WOULD AGAIN, STRONGLY RECOMMEND LOOKING AT OUR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS CLEARLY STATED THAT, THAT WE THOUGHT A, A CONSULTANT COULD BE USED AND THEY STILL COULD BE EVEN AFTER YOU DRAFTED THE LAW.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE OF MARIJUANA.

AND FINALLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, THIS STARTED BY THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE GENTLEMAN TO MY LEFT HERE AND HIS RETIREMENT SPEECH.

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UH, THAT THESE WERE TWO WISHES THAT HE SAW THESE TWO, TWO BOARDS.

'CAUSE HE SAW THE NEED.

HE KNEW THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH, UH, SITUATIONS ON ALTERNATIVE ENERGY ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THEY WERE COMING FASTER.

AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS TO DEAL WITH THOSE NOW.

WE HAVE NO CLUE WHERE WE SHOULD BE PUTTING CHARGING STATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR SOLAR PANELS.

OR SHOULD WE BE REQUIRING SOLAR PANELS ON THE TOP OF EVERY NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE.

WHAT SHOULD WE DO AND WHAT SHOULD BE THE GOALS? THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THAT COMMITTEE.

AND I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND FRANKLY, IN ONE WAY, OUR NEW LAW, WHICH I UNDERSTAND ON CONDOS, IS GONNA MAKE IT EVEN HARDER TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

NOT EASIER.

SO WE HAVE TO GET VERY CREATIVE THERE AND WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE THERE.

WHAT WE DID WAS TAKE A TEMPLATE THAT WE HAD USED BEFORE, WHICH WAS ON TWO COMMITTEES.

THE CONTINUING, UH, CONTINUING CARE FACILITY COMMITTEE AND THE, UH, BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY.

AND SAID THEY WORKED, WE HAD TWO AD HOC COMMITTEES THAT WERE MADE UP OF PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, UH, MEMBERS OF THE C A C.

IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS HIS ZONING BOARD MEMBER GARRETT WAS ON THE COMMITTEE AND SOME OUTSIDE CITIZENS AND SOME EXPERTS THAT TOOK ON THOSE TWO, TWO ISSUES AND CREATED VERY EFFECTIVE LAWS.

I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE THE BEST BAD RESTORED LAW IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK NOW, THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE ONE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

AND I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD THING.

AND WE HAVE A VERY GOOD LAW ON CONTINUE CONTINUING CARE FACILITIES TOO, THAT ABSOLUTELY NEEDED TO BE UPDATED.

'CAUSE WE ALL REALIZED THAT THERE WERE SOME HOLES IN THE ORIGINAL LAW THAT WE WROTE ON ASSISTED LIVING.

SO THAT IS THE REASON WE DID IT.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT GOVERNOR ELL SAID TODAY.

SHE'S MADE THIS ONE OF HER PRIMARY OBJECTIVES, IT WAS IN HER BUDGET LAST YEAR.

SHE'S TALKING ABOUT 800,000 NEW AFFORDABLE HOMES.

I THINK IT'S 3% OF THE POPULATION OF, OF ANY MUNICIPALITY THAT'S SERVICED BY, BY, UH, MASS TRANSIT, WHICH WE OBVIOUSLY ARE WITH METRO NORTH.

AND BASICALLY SAID THAT IF THE TOWNS DON'T DO IT, THEY'RE GONNA DO IT FOR US.

I GOTTA TELL YOU, WE'RE BETTER AT THAT THAN THEY ARE, I THINK.

YEAH.

I THINK ALSO WHAT AT A POINT THAT SHE MADE WAS THAT, UM, THAT THE DEVELOPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD ENABLE, I I WHAT I TOOK AWAY QUICKLY AND IT'S LIKE A 223 PAGE, UM, UM, STATE OF THE STATE.

BUT, UH, MY TAKEAWAY WAS THAT, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT MONEY INTO INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH WOULD THEN, UM, IDEALLY IN MY MIND, REDUCE THE, THE EXPENDITURE OF THE DEVELOPERS, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT MORE A AVAILABLE AND AFFORDABLE FOR THOSE UNITS TOO.

SO I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, THE KEY THING, UH, I THINK, UH, THE IDEA OF THE GOVERNOR SAYING, BASICALLY SAYING TO THE TOWN, IF YOU DON'T DO IT, WE WILL.

SO THAT IS AN OPEN INVITATION FOR THE NECESSITY FOR A AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE.

SO WE COULD DRAFT SOMETHING THAT MEET, THAT WILL MEET THE NEED OF THE TOWN AS OPPOSED TO TAKING A STATEMENT AND APPLYING IT TO TOWN MIKE.

SO THAT SHOULD BE THE INCENTIVE.

SURE.

AND MY QUESTION IS, GASSER PUT OUT A REPORT, THEY, THE, THE, THE ESTIMABLE, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON, UM, UNDER HER LEADERSHIP, A REPORT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, AND THE, AND THE, THE NEEDS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING MERGES WITH WHAT THAT I'LL, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.

THE, THE, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS WHAT WAS DONE BY THE COMMITTEE WAS A GOOD START, BUT IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE NEAR FAR ENOUGH TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.

WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING.

WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT, WE EVEN HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF IT'S THE RIGHT ONE, BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT IN EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN WESTCHESTER.

AND I WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF THAT TILL YESTERDAY.

I THOUGHT EVERYBODY WAS AT 80,000.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

AT 80%.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

I FOUND THAT OUT YESTERDAY FROM OUR, ONE OF OUR EXPERTS.

UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS EVEN HARSHEL HO HO HO.

EXCUSE ME.

HOCAL, EVEN GOVERNOR HOEL IS FOCUSING ONLY ON MULTI-FAMILY AND THAT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE.

NO.

SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, SHE WAS VERY VAGUE ABOUT IT, BUT SHE SAID EXPANDING AND SHE SAID MOST UNITS ARE MULTI, BUT SHE SHE'S

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BUT FOCUS IS A MULTI-FAMILY.

YES.

AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE A PATH THAT WE, WE'VE DEVELOPED AND YOU CAN SEE IT IF WHEN YOU WATCH A RECORDING IN KEN AZARIA YESTERDAY, ACTUALLY, THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING THAT, KEN.

I APPRECIATE IT.

MM-HMM.

TO ADDRESS THAT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO CHOP THIS UP INTO PIECES AND ATTACK EACH OTHER.

THE OTHER, THE OTHER ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS ADUS, WHICH IF WE DON'T DO IT SOMETHING ABOUT REALLY IN THE NEXT QUARTER OR SO, SOMEONE'S GONNA LEGISLATE IT HERE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE IN ALL OF OUR VILLAGES IN WHITE PLAINS.

AND WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S RIGHT FOR GREENBERG.

YOU TALKING ABOUT ACCESSORY, ACCESSORY DWELLING, DWELLING UNITS, RIGHT THERE.

THERE ARE, I HAVE, AND I'M SURE YOU DO, BUT I HAVE A WHOLE REPORT ON THAT.

RIGHT.

BUT, UM, THE, THE, YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT TO GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, UM, READING THE REPORT FROM GASSER, I I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST THE BLUEPRINT AS A JUMPING OFF POINT, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

THAT'S EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

SO THEN WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH GINA ALL ALONG IN THIS, IN FACT, I'LL GET TO MY NEXT POINT IN A SECOND, WHICH, WHICH GINA WAS HELPFUL, HELPFUL WITH AS WELL BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING FOR GINA'S REPORT MM-HMM.

TO COME OUT TO EVEN TALK TO YOU GUYS.

THAT'S WHERE WE KEPT GETTING DELAYED.

REMEMBER WE WROTE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IN APRIL? MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

WE'RE WAITING FOR THE REPORT TO BE RELEASED AND GINA SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHY DON'T YOU GET STARTED? WHICH IS HOW WE CREATED THE AD HOC COMMITTEES AND WHAT, WHAT MADE IT LOOK LIKE THE PLANNING BOARD JUST UNILATERALLY DID THIS.

PEACE AREN'T PLANNING BOARD COMMITTEES.

THESE ARE GONNA BE MADE UP AND ARE ALREADY MADE UP OF PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

I JUST GOT THREE MORE RESUMES FROM GARRETT YESTERDAY.

OH, SO YOU'RE GONNA USE, YOU'RE GONNA USE THE PEOPLE THAT FROM THE ORDER? OF COURSE.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

OF COURSE.

IF THEY'RE QUALIFIED TO IT.

AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR TWO PEOPLE FROM THE GAS, FROM FROM THE GASTRIC COMMITTEE AS WELL.

THIS IS NEW.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO, OKAY.

I I JUST NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND THAT JERRY HAD HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY.

THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY THING THAT WE ASK, AND JOE, I NEED YOUR HELP HERE.

OKAY.

THE ONLY THING WE ASK IS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT SUBJECT IF, IF WE'RE SANCTIONED OFFICIALLY BY THE TOWN, THAT WE'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS LAW.

BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA BE REQUIRED TO, WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WHOLE THING ON ZOOM.

'CAUSE WE HAVE EXPERTS WHO DON'T LIVE HERE.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THE BATTERY STORAGE COMMITTEE.

IT'S AN AD, IT'S AN ADC COMMITTEE.

IT'S AN AD HO C COMMITTEE.

ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

RIGHT.

IT AS LONG AS IT, WE HAVE AN LEGAL OPINION THAT SAYS WE CAN DO THIS A HUNDRED PERCENT ON ZOOM.

'CAUSE WE GET BETTER ATTENDANCE THAT WAY.

WE'RE PERF WE WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THE TOWN SUPPORT.

OKAY.

THIS ISN'T, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE TOWN AND TRYING, YOU GUYS, I SEE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO.

I SAW HOW HARD IT WAS TO GET ON THE AGENDA.

YOU NEED TO HAVE COMMITTEES LIKE THIS TO GET YOU TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THOSE TWO COMMITTEES ARE DESIGNED TO DO BOTH OF THEM.

MAYBE, UM, IF IT'S SORT OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, MAYBE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEIR RESPONSE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE AND YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN WOULD, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU AND OUR STAFF WILL WORK WITH YOU AT THE SAME TIME.

WE DID THAT ALREADY.

NO, I'M JUST SAYING WITHOUT, WITHOUT ANY OFFICIAL NOT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CREATE ANYTHING OFFICIAL, THEN WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS LAW.

NO, IT COULD BE AN OFFICIAL COMMITTEE, BUT IF IT'S AN AD HOC ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND, AND I WILL TALK TO YOU AFTER THIS MEETING JUST TO GO THROUGH ALL THE YEAH.

THE STEPS.

UM, JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH OPEN MEETINGS LAW.

THAT'S ALL WE ASK.

BUT THEN ALSO THE MEMBERS WILL ALSO, THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH SEXUAL HARASSMENT TRAINING.

I OFFICIAL TRAINING.

NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

A LOT OF US, A LOT OF THEM HAVE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ON OTHER COMMITTEES IN THE TOWN, BUT MM-HMM.

, ANYBODY WHO IS AN AD AD HOC MEMBER THAT IT HASN'T BEEN LIKE THE THREE PEOPLE WE JUST GOT.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, ABSOLUTELY.

WHY, WHY SHOULDN'T THEY DO THAT? AND I KNOW ALSO ETHICS TRAINING, RIGHT? SEXUAL HARASSMENT ETHICS COMMITTEES DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OPEN MEETINGS LAW.

USUALLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH OPEN MEETINGS LAW, BUT THEY'RE, UH, BUT THEY'RE, UH, CONSIDERED A PUBLIC BODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO MEET IN PERSON AND MEET A QUORUM.

WHO'S THAT? THE A ADC ADC COMMITTEES.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMPLYING WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS LAW.

YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO MEET IN PERSON WITH WITH THE FORM.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IT'S NOT THAT YOU WANTED TO, THAT THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT YOU WANNA MEET IN SECRET ONLY.

THAT ONLY THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE AT A DISTANCE WHO CAN'T BE THERE.

THE OPPOSITE.

WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS WHAT WE DID, AND FRANCIS, YOU ARE VERY HELPFUL ON BO ON BOTH THE C F AND, AND THE BATTERY STORAGE COMMITTEES.

YOU, YOU LIZ, ON BOTH OF THOSE FOR US AND PARTICIPATED IN THOSE AND WE WERE, WE'RE WE'LL AGREE TO WHATEVER SCHEDULE YOU WANT US TO REPORT BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD WITH PROGRESS SUPPORT OF COURSE.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS ATTEND OR BEYOND ON A REGULAR BASIS.

WE KNOW BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPAND THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE

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SUB COMMITTEES BETWEEN MEETINGS.

WE'LL NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE THERE.

YOU SAW IT, YOU'LL SEE.

YOU SAW IT YESTERDAY AND IF YOU WATCH, YOU CAN WATCH THE VIDEO.

BY THE WAY, FRANCIS, WE HAVE THE VIDEO.

UM, AND GINA, 'CAUSE YOU WEREN'T THERE YET.

YOU WERE.

PAUL, YOU CAN ALL WATCH THE VIDEO.

MM-HMM.

, UH, JUDITH AS WELL.

UH, IF WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE CAN DO ALL EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO AND THERE'S A WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST OF DATA THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED.

SOME OF WHICH WE CAN GET FROM GARRETT.

SOME OF THE STUFF WE CAN'T, SOME OF THE STUFF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RESEARCH OURSELVES.

WE WANT THIS TO BE RESEARCH FACT-BASED.

WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE OPINION-BASED.

MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

.

THIS IS A VERY, PARTICULARLY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, WHICH WE'RE NOT CALLING, THAT WE'RE CALLING VIABLE ACCESSIBLE HOUSING BECAUSE IT'S AFFORDABLES GOT A KIND OF FUNNY CONNOTATION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE CHANGING THAT.

UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO PUT OUR EFFORTS AND THAT WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.

AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT WHAT WORKS OTHER PLACES AND WHAT HASN'T WORKED OTHER PLACES.

AND THERE'S SOME THINGS WE WANT TO ATTACK IS LOW HANGING FRUIT, ONE OF THEM BEING ABUS.

THE OTHER ONE IS THE WHOLE, IS THE, THE HOLDBACK LAW.

OKAY.

IT ISN'T AS SIMPLE AS GOING FROM 10 TO 20%.

OKAY.

THAT IN ITSELF WON'T DO MUCH.

BY THE WAY, WE'VE ONLY PUT ON 65 HO HOUSES UNDER THE CURRENT LAW IN 1997, I THINK IS WHEN IT PASSED.

OKAY.

25 YEARS AND 40 OF THOSE WERE IN ONE PLACE.

AVALON GREEN.

ALRIGHT.

I, I GOTTA LEAVE PRETTY SOON.

AND WE SHUT THIS DOWN.

WE'RE DONE.

WE'RE DONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU VERY MUCH.

I JUST DO WANNA POINT OUT, 'CAUSE I DID LISTEN TO THE GOVERNOR OF STATE OF THE STATE, UH, WHAT SHE SAID REGARDING CONDOMINIUMS IS WE DON'T WANT DEVELOPERS TO ONLY BUILD CONDOMINIUMS OR BUILD ELSEWHERE.

THAT'S NOT THE OUTCOME WE NEED ELLEN.

RIGHT.

SO SHE'S NOT, SHE'S NOT PROMOTING CONDOMINIUMS AT ALL.

RIGHT.

YOU STARTED IT OFF BY SAYING IT WON'T PROMOTE AFFORDABLE AFFORD, I THINK IT'S GONNA MAKE MORE AFFORDABLE CONDOS, BUT THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DAY.

WELL, I HOPE IT DOES.

I HOPE IT DOES.

THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I TOOK FROM THERE TOO.

CUT.

LET'S JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.

THIS IS WE'LL TAKE ONE MINUTE.

YOU KNOW, I KEEP DRIVING AROUND AND CON ED'S DOING ALL THIS UNDERGROUND WORK AND THE VILLAGE OF SCARSDALE, UM, HAS A LAW WHERE IF CONED MESSES UP THE ROAD, UH, LIKE HALF THE ROAD, THEY HAVE TO REPAVE THE WHOLE ROAD.

YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MORE I GO, YOU KNOW, OUR ROADS ARE LIKE A MESS.

AND I REALLY FEEL WE SHOULD DO THE SAME, UM, THING I SPOKE TO RICH FINE ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A LONG TIME.

I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH'S EXCELLENT.

RICH.

AND IF ACCEPTABLE TO THE BOARD, I'LL DRAFT SOMETHING.

WE, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE QUICKLY BECAUSE THE ROW, SOME OF THE ROWS ARE JUST HORRIBLE AND THANK YOU.

YEAH.

BUT THEY, YOU PAVE IT AND THEN THEY UH, THEY DIG IT UP, THEN THEY DIG IT UP AND THEN IT'S BAD AGAIN.

AND IT'S, IT'S LIKE A WASTE OF MONEY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

WERE YOU ADJOURNING? THANK YOU BOTH.

WE ARE ADJOURNING.

YES, BUT YOU, WE GOTTA, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

SECONDED BY GINA SECOND.

SO WE'RE DONE? YES.

THAT'S GOOD.

RECORDING.

STOPPED.