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NEXT, UH, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM, UM, MARK SJA AT[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]
VOGEL.AND MATT JUDGE RELATING TO, UH, MAY APARTMENT SENIOR TALKING TO THE MICROPHONE.
IF IT'S OVER, THERE'S ONE OVER THERE.
IS THAT ONE OVER THERE? PICK THAT ONE UP.
YOU MAY WANNA STAND TO BE ABLE TO REFER TO YOUR, OH, ACTUALLY STAND HERE IS PROBABLY EASIEST.
OH, SPEAKING TO, I THINK I'VE RATHER SIT DOWN.
I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW, BECAUSE I NEGLECTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT JILL FRIEDMAN DO.
FRIEDMAN'S DAUGHTER IS HERE FOR THE LATER DISCUSSION.
I'M WITH MARATHON DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
WE'RE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER BASED UP IN PEAK SKILL.
OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS, WE'VE DEVELOPED MORE THAN 1800 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING.
UH, ABOUT A THOUSAND OF WHICH ARE HERE IN WESTCHESTER.
AND THAT INCLUDES OUR MOST RECENT PROJECT, MAYFAIR HOUSING, WHICH IS 74 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING.
WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT OUR MOST NOTEWORTHY ABOUT MAYFAIR APARTMENTS WAS THAT WITH ONLY 74 UNITS, WE HAD MORE THAN 575 ELDERLY LOW INCOME SENIORS APPLY FOR HOUSING.
WE RENTED THE PROPERTY RIGHT UP.
AND TODAY WE STILL HAVE MORE THAN 275 LOWER INCOME SENIORS LOOKING FOR AN AFFORDABLE APARTMENT BASED UPON TREMENDOUSLY SAID LOWER INCOME.
COULD YOU QUANTIFY THAT? A HOUSEHOLD EARNING LESS.
CAN YOU BRING THE MICROPHONE MARK, PLEASE? THE HOUSEHOLDS EARNING LESS THAN 60% OF THE AREA METERED INCOME, UH, BASED UPON TREMENDOUS DEMAND.
YOU CAN PICK IT UP IF YOU NEED TO LOOK THAT WAY.
BASED UPON TREMENDOUS DEMAND AND THE BASICALLY HOW AVAILABLE AT THE SITE WE'RE SEEKING YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE ADDITION OF, I JUST CAN'T DO IT.
BASED UPON TREMENDOUS DEMAND, IS THAT WORKING? MM-HMM.
BASED UPON TREMENDOUS DEMAND AND THE SPACE WE HAVE WITH THE PROPERTY, WE'D LIKE YOUR SUPPORT FOR ADDING, UH, 62 ADDITIONAL UNITS OF AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING.
WE REACH THE 62 UNITS BASED UPON THE LAYOUT, THE SITE, AND THE TIME GREENBURG ZONING CODE UNDER GREENBURG ZONING.
SENIOR HOUSING CAN HAVE LESS THAN ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT FOR AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING.
DESPITE THAT, WE'RE REQUESTING, WE WENT WITH 62 UNITS BECAUSE WE HAVE 60, 60, UH, 65.
SO, WHAT'S UNIQUE IS, SO ACTUALLY IN THAT ZONING PLAYS OUT VERY WELL SAID.
YOU HAVE, THIS IS THE EXISTING PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN BUILT NOW, AND IN THOSE 74 UNITS, WE PROBABLY HAVE ROUGHLY 46, 45 OR 40 PEOPLE APPLIED FOR PARKING PERMITS.
ABOUT SIX, 6%, I'M SORRY, 60% OF THE PEOPLE KIND OF IN TIME WITH THE ALIGNMENT WITH TODD GREENBERG'S CALCULATION, HOW IT WORK.
SO WE HAVE THIS PARKING THAT'S ALL AND USED.
AND HERE IS THE ADMIN BUILDING.
SO OF THE 64, UH, 62 UNITS, WE WOULD DO 14 IN THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
OUR INITIAL PLAN FOR ADMINISTRATION BUILDING HAD BEEN THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IDEALLY A NOT-FOR-PROFIT SUPPORTER COME IN AND PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE SENIOR RESIDENTS IN OUR PROPERTY WITH COVID.
UM, WE SPOKE WITH THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE ADJACENT TO US.
THEY DON'T HAVE A NEED FOR SPACE.
THEY'RE HAPPY TO COME AND, UM, BE INVOLVED WITH THIS.
THEY'RE VERY COOPERATIVE AND GREAT NEIGHBORS, VERY SUPPORTIVE, BUT THEY DON'T NEED THE SPACE EITHER.
SO WE DO 14 UNITS IN THAT BUILDING.
UM, THEY RENOVATED IN HERE, AND THEN WE DO A NEW CONSTRUCTION ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THIS EXISTING PARKING CIRCLE.
AND WE'D HAVE 48 UNITS IN THAT BUILDING.
IT'D BE TWO AND A HALF STORIES WITH AN ELEVATOR BUILDING.
UM, BASED UPON THE WAIT LIST WE HAVE, WE COULD RENT IT UP IN NO TIME AT ALL.
THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SUPPORTS THE PROJECT, UM, AND BASED UPON DEMAND, WE'D LIKE THE TOWN SUPPORT THE PROJECT AS WELL.
THIS, BECAUSE THE COUNT, THIS IS ON COUNTY PROPERTY? YES.
SO, UM, THE, THE, DOESN'T THE COUNTY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THIS, UH, ON THEIR OWN? OR IS THIS MORE LIKE A COURTESY, UM, YOU KNOW, MEETING WHERE YOU'RE JUST ADVISING US AND BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY TOWN APPROVALS THAT ARE NECESSARY.
SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS APPLICABLE IS THE SEEKER PROCESS.
SO, UH, A FULL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, CARRIED OUT IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT.
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THAT LOOKS AT CONSISTENCY WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACTS, STORM WATER, UM, WATER, ADEQUATE WATER SUPPLY, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.UM, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THE TOWN BOARD WOULD BE BEST SUITED TO OVERSEE THAT SEEKER PROCESS.
UM, BUT TO GET BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION, FROM A, UM, LAND USE BOARD APPROVAL PROCESS, UM, SIMILAR TO OTHER COUNTY BUILDINGS THAT ARE BUILT, UM, THERE COULD BE WHAT'S CALLED GOVERNMENTAL IMMUNITY, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY AN EXEMPTION FROM THE ZONING PROCESS.
AND IT RUNS LIKE A PARALLEL SEEKER PROCESS.
UH, IT'S REALLY NOT LIKE A SITE PLAN OR, YOU KNOW, A VARIANCE REVIEW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, IT WOULD JUST BE, UH, SEEKER REVIEW AND THEN THIS POTENTIAL GOVERNMENTAL IMMUNITY PROCESS.
ARE THERE AMENITIES OF ANY SORT NOW? SO, UM, IN THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY ROOM.
WE HAVE A COMPUTER ROOM, UH, LAUNDRY ROOMS. AND THIS, WE HAVE A PATH ALONG THE PERIMETER BACKGROUND OUT HERE.
AND THIS IS AN ACTIVE FIELD THAT GO OUT THERE AND THERE'S SOME SEATING OUT THERE AND PUT IN THE FIELD.
WE'D LIKE TO, SO THIS, THIS SECTION HERE, THE, OF THE ADMIN BUILDING IS A GIANT ATRIUM.
I DON'T HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OF IT, BUT IT WOULD REALLY BE VERY NICE FOR A COMMUNITY SPACE THAT WOULD BE MORE INVITING AND INCLUDE MORE PEOPLE.
'CAUSE WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS JUST ESSENTIALLY A UNIT SIZE SPACE IN EACH OF THESE BUILDINGS.
UH, WE SPOKE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE MEETING AND YOU KNOW, I HAD ASKED ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND YOU SAID YOU MIGHT BE WILLING TO DO A SIDEWALK DOWN TO NORWOOD ROAD.
UH, OH, NO, I MEANT OUT, OUT ALONG OUR PROPERTY LINE.
MARK, WHAT ABOUT SOME EXERCISE SPACE? UH, UH, THEN WE'LL HAVE A SPACE.
WHAT ABOUT, UM, A, A SPACE WHERE, UH, STATE OF THE ART EXERCISE EQUIPMENT IS AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS? WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW.
I DUNNO HOW STATE OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT STATE OF THE ART MEANS, BUT WE COULD DO AN EXERCISE FACILITY IN THAT COMMUNITY, IN THIS ATRIUM AREA.
SO WE COULD HAVE AN EXERCISE ROOM.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY PEOPLE WHO ARE AGING, THEY NEED EXERCISE EQUIPMENT AND, UM, YEAH.
AND NOT, I WOULD, THAT WOULD, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT DURING C O V I D YOU WEREN'T GETTING PEOPLE WILLING TO COME IN, AND OF COURSE THAT WAS UNDERSTANDABLE.
BUT THAT, THAT DOESN'T APPLY NOW THOUGH.
SO THERE ARE GIANT PEOPLE AT THIS STATE OFFICE.
THEY COME OUT A LOT TO GO OUT AND WALK AROUND.
IT'S A, AS, AS I SAID, THERE'S A PATHWAY ALONG HERE.
AND I'LL WALK AROUND THE PARKING LOT'S EXTRA OUT THERE.
UM, BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY AN ACTIVE OR DESIGNATED EXERCISE FACILITY NOW.
NOT JUST, I'M NOT JUST SPEAKING OF EXERCISE, I MEAN, JUST ACTIVITIES IN GENERAL.
SO WE HAVE ACTIV AND WE HAVE AN ACTIVITY ROOM.
DO ACTIVITY ROOMS. WE HAVE A, WHAT ARE THEY, MATTHEW? WE'RE SPEAKING WITH THE COLLEGE ABOUT, UM, SOME INTERCHANGE WITH THEM, MAYBE PERHAPS ALLOWING OUR RESIDENTS USE OF THEIR HEALTH AND FITNESS FACILITIES AND MAYBE COMING INTO TAILOR PROGRAMMING FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
WOULD THEY TRANSPORTATION FOR THEM TO GET TO THOSE HEALTH AND FITNESS FACILITIES AT, UH, WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY COLLEGE? THEY'RE ON A BUS ROUTE.
SO I, I'M GUESSING I HAVEN'T EXPLORED THAT, BUT I ASSUME THAT THE BUS WAS STOPPED AT THE COLLEGE AS WELL.
I SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I FIND OUT IF IT CAN'T BE INSURED, THEN CAN WORK OUT HEALTH EQUIPMENT FACILITY, UM, BE PROVIDED IN YOUR, UM, YES.
I'VE ALREADY SAID I WOULD PUT EXERCISE FACILITY, SOME OF THE SPACE.
SO IF YOU WERE TO COM TO COMPLETE, UH, THE BUILD OUT AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED, IS IT A FACT THAT YOU WOULD WORK OFF OF THE SAME WAITING LIST OF RESIDENTS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE? I DON'T.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, THERE, THERE SPECIAL RULES APPLY TO WAITING LISTS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT RULE IS, BUT I, IT MAKES MORE LOGICAL SENSE TO GO THROUGH THAT WAITING LIST FIRST.
BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.
YOU KNOW, THE AFFORDABLE FAIR HOUSING MARKETING PLAN CONCEPT MM-HMM.
UM, IS VERY TIGHTLY REGULATED NOW AND OKAY.
UM, DID YOU USE ROSE LAST TIME? YES, WE DID.
SO WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? ROSE DOING IT, UH, WHO, WHO, WHO'S VERY METICULOUS AT MAKING SURE RULES ARE FOLLOWED.
WOULD YOU BE USING HER AGAIN? YES.
THERE WAS AN ISSUE AS TO ADEQUACY OF WATER.
REMEMBER WHAT WE HAVE, WE'RE UP THERE WITH THE, THE HYDRANTS.
HAS THAT BEEN RESOLVED AND IS THERE SUFFICIENT WATER TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL UNITS? RIGHT.
SO AT ONE POINT YOU HAD RAISED THE DISCUSSION.
WE, WE HEARD ACTUALLY THROUGH YOU AND NOT FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT THERE WAS A WATER PRESSURE ISSUE FOR
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THE FIRE HYDRANTS.UH, WE CONTACTED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WORK WITH THEM, WORK WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT, AND WE BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED.
BUT THAT'S TO ADDRESS THE EXISTING UNITS.
HAVE YOU, WILL YOU BE CORRECT? WE, WE, YOU BE DOING, THAT'S THE WHOLE PART OF SEEKER IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S POSSIBLE BASED ON WHAT ABSOLUTELY.
WHAT IS, WHAT TIMING ARE YOU ANTICIPATING? UH, IT DEPENDS UPON REALLY THE LENGTH OF THE SECRET PROCESS.
I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST APPROVAL PART OUTSIDE OUR CONTROL.
UM, WE'LL COME BACK WITH BETTER DRAWING CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ONCE TO GET SOME MORE POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND GET THE GO AHEAD TO BEGIN UNDERTAKING THE EXPENSES ABOUT LAYING IT OUT.
GARY, HOW, HOW LONG DOES THE SECRET PROCESS USUALLY TAKE?
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD TAKE A FEW MONTHS, I WOULD IMAGINE, UH, TO PULL TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, UM, INTRICACIES OF THE SITE PLAN AND, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS ABOUT WATER SUPPLY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD TAKE, UM, TWO MONTHS PERHAPS.
UM, NOT MANDATORY, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, SO, UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A, A REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
UH, THAT'S MANDATORY, BUT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE, THE, THE, THE TOWN BOARD CONSIDERS SO.
OR A PUBLIC DISCUSSION OR PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
SO LET'S ASSUME THAT LET'S HAVE INPUTS AS YES.
TOWN BOARD HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING.
TOWN BOARD SOLICITING, UH, PLANNING, BOARD FEEDBACK.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING THAT APPLICATION.
WE'RE SENDING IT TO THE COUNTY.
UH, WE'RE SENDING IT TO, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE, UM, NEW YORK STATE D O T WE'RE SENDING IT TO, UH, WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD TEND TO THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO SIX MONTH PROCESS, UM, OR LONGER.
AND HAS THE CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS BEEN CONTACTED OR, YOU KNOW, REACHED OUT YET? USUALLY WE NOTIFY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
I HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO CIVIC ASSOCIATION YET.
AND YOU'VE BEEN, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE SENIOR HOUSING HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR TWO YEARS.
I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS FROM ANYBODY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEN REPRESENTATIONS WERE MADE THAT THERE'D BE NO KIDS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND HAS, HAS THAT PROMISE BEEN KEPT? YES.
SO THERE'S BEEN LIKE NO EXCEPTIONS.
AND HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY COMPLAINTS FROM ANY RESIDENT MEET NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, OR RESIDENTS? I, I HAVEN'T, BUT THERE WAS COMPLAINT TO BILLY PUBLIC.
WE WERE TAKING DOWN, WE TOOK DOWN SOME TREES.
THEY'VE, WE TOOK DOWN TOO MANY.
WE'RE CLEARING OUT SOME OF THE DEAD TREES FOR OPENING THAT PATHWAY ALONG THE BACK.
ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS COMPLAINED THAT WE WERE TAKING DOWN TOO MANY TREES AND WE ACTUALLY, THEY'RE PLANTING HOW MANY MILL TREES MET? I THINK AROUND 18 OR 20 WHEN THEY'RE PLANTING REPLANTING ADDITIONAL TREES TO AFFORD THEM MORE SCREENING, MATURE TREES OR SAPLINGS.
UH, THEY WERE 12 TO 16 FOOT TREES.
ANY, ANY OTHER ISSUES OR, SO I, I'LL, YOU KNOW, POST THE SLING THIS DISCUSSION ON THE WEBSITE AND I'LL, YOU KNOW, LET SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE KNOW, SO NOBODY CAN SAY THEY'RE THE BLINDSIDE.
WHEN WOULD YOU WANT TO, UH, HAVE THE TOWN BOARD DECLARE THE, I GUESS WHAT IS THE LEAD AGENCY? IS THAT YEAH, WE WOULD NEED TIME TO RECEIVE THE APPLICATION AND THEN SEND IT OUT TO THE FIRE DISTRICT, TO THE COUNTY.
SO, UM, I, I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY TO SPECULATE RIGHT NOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT PROCESS WOULD START.
BUT WE'LL STAY IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH MARK'S GROUP.
LIKE YOUR ESTIMATED, I KNOW THESE TIMELINES NEVER, ARE NEVER A FOLLOWED, BUT WHAT, RIGHT.
OUR CONSTRUCTION PROCESS IS AN EIGHT IS AN 18 MONTH CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
HOW LONG THE PROCESS IS TO GET THERE? AS MUCH AS GAR SAYS IT'S, IT'S CONJECTURE, IT'D BE WHEN WOULD YOU THINK THAT YOU'D FILE AN APPLICATION? OH, WITH, WITH, WITH GAR FOR THE, YES.
90 DAYS, MATTHEW, IN 90 DAYS YOU WOULD SEND US A PACKAGE WITHIN ABOUT 90 DAYS.
SO WHEN WE GET THAT, WE'LL, UH, KEEP THE BOARD APPRISED AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL SEND IT OUT TO ALL THE PROPER AGENCIES AND, UH, WE CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE.
AND WE WOULD DECLARE OUR INTENT.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE COUNTY, IT'S COUNTY PROPERTY.
THEY, THEY, THEY MAY WELL COULD AGENCY.
YES, I DOUBT IT, BUT THEY VERY WELL COULD DECIDE THAT THEY WOULD BE LEAD AGENCY AND THEN THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY.
YOU KNOW, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE? WELL, AFTER, YOU KNOW, I POSTED ON THE WEB, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST, IF I GET ANY COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, I'LL SHARE THEM WITH YOU.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN MAYBE YOU COULD MEET AS YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND THE I'D BE HAPPY TO.
THEY WERE DELIGHTFUL TO WORK WITH.
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CCRA FOR THE FIRST, UM, SUBDIVISION, AS IT WERE, MORE RECENTLY WHEN, UM,
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MARK'S GROUP CAME BACK FOR THE MORE UPDATED DEVELOPMENT.I BELIEVE IT WAS THE TOWN BOARD HISTORICALLY.
UM, NOW YOU'RE GOING BACK TO WHEN THE BUILDINGS WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT.
WELL, I GUESS I WASN'T GOING BACK THAT FAR.
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF IT WAS THE SAME THE FIRST TIME AROUND.
AND THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO EXPAND AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING IN THE TOWN.
SO DORIS FRIEDMAN'S, UH, DAUGHTER IS HERE.
COULD WE JUST TAKE HER OUT OF ORDER SO SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT? THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
I'M THE YOUNGEST OF DORIS FREEMAN, JUDGE DORSEY FRIEDMAN'S THREE DAUGHTERS.
HOW ARE YOU? UM, AND I COME TO YOU ACTUALLY ALMOST TWO YEARS TO THE DATE OF MY MOTHER'S PASSING.
AND I, UM, RECALL, UH, AS YOU MAY RECALL, ON FEBRUARY 10TH, 2021, YOU, DURING YOUR TOWN BOARD MEETING, YOU TOOK A TIME TO HONOR MY MOTHER, UH, WHICH I WILL SAY WAS INCREDIBLY MEANINGFUL TO, UH, MY SISTERS AND I, AS WELL AS OUR EXTENDED FAMILY.
UM, BUT IT DID COME TO ME, IN FACT, WHEN I WAS IN A UNRELATED MEETING WITH ELLEN THE OTHER DAY, COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS, THAT IN FACT, I DID RECALL THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF RENAMING A STREET IN MY MOTHER'S HONOR, SOMEPLACE WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
IN FACT, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE THAT EVENING, WHICH STUCK WITH US, IS THAT IF IT WERE TO BE DONE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING OTHER THAN DO FRIEDMAN DRIVE.
BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT HER ACTUAL DRIVING ABILITIES, WERE NOT THE BEST
YOU DO REMEMBER THE ASK
WE DON'T DO DRIVE, WE DO WAY, I THINK, I THINK NONE OF US DISAGREED WITH THAT AS WELL AS I'M SURE THE ENTIRE GREENBERG POLICE FORCE WOULD ALSO AGREE WITH YOU.
UM, AS WELL AS EVERY CAR REPAIR PLACE AND THE, YOU KNOW,
SO, AS I SAID, I, I KNOW IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS.
I ALSO KNOW THE PAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN, UH, STILL CHALLENGING TIMES FOR ALL OF US WITH C O V I D AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN DEALING WITH, UM, IN YOUR TOWN AND BEYOND.
BUT I DID WANTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, YOU KNOW, IN DUE DILIGENCE TO MY MOTHER FOLLOW UP TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING, SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, COULD MOVE FORWARD, IT WOULD MEAN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT TO ALL OF US AS WELL, AS MOST ESPECIALLY TO JUDGE FRIEDMAN'S GRANDCHILDREN.
UM, I LIVE IN WHITE PLAINS, SO IN FACT, I'M OFTEN ON THE STREETS OF GREENBURG AND, AND AROUND.
AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO, AGAIN, BRING THIS UP.
AS I SAID, I KNOW IT, IT CAN BE COMPLICATED.
I HAVE HEARD CERTAINLY ISSUES TOWNS WHERE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT, UM, MY MOTHER RESIDED IN GREENBURG ACTUALLY FOR, I REALIZED 63 YEARS, UH, WHEN THEY CAME TO NEW YORK FROM WASHINGTON, DC UM, WHICH IS WAS THEIR SECOND STOP AFTER LAW SCHOOL.
UH, THEY IN FACT LIVED ON CHELSEA ROAD.
AND THEN FROM THERE IN 1963, THEY MOVED INTO THEIR HOUSE IN IRVINGTON ON COTTONTAIL LANE, WHERE MY MOTHER STAYED UNTIL 2005 WHEN SHE MOVED, UM, TO DOWNSIZE INTO THE KEY IN TARRYTOWN.
BUT SHE WAS, AS YOU WELL KNOW, A PROUD, INCREDIBLY PROUD AND VIBRANT, WE FELT MEMBER OF GREENBURG.
GREENBURG WAS TRULY HER SECOND HOME.
IF IT WASN'T CHELSEA, MASSACHUSETTS, IT WAS GREENBURG NEW YORK.
WHAT ABOUT, UH, THE ENTRANCE TO THE COURTHOUSE? YOU KNOW, THE WHERE, WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE THING IS YOU CAN NAME A STREET, YOU MIGHT AS IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HONORARY STREET, UH, DESIGNATION.
IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S RELEVANT TO, UH, JUDGE FRIEDMAN'S LIFE.
AND, YOU KNOW, SHE DEVOTED HERSELF TO JUSTICE.
AND, UM, AND I SORT OF THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SORT OF, I THINK IT'S ALREADY NAMED AFTER A POLICE OFFICER.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THAT'S THE, WHERE THE COURTHOUSE IS.
IT'S THROUGH THE SAME PARKING LOT.
WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HAVE THROUGH THE SAME, WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT, DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
GIVE US A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
AGAIN, I DID NOT EXPECT YOU TO SAY THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE'LL DO WHAT? WE'LL DO IT NEXT WEEK.
YOU, MAYBE YOU COULD BE THE COMMITTEE THAT COMES UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US A COUPLE, LIKE, THREE
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RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, FITTING AND APPROPRIATE.AND THEN YOU COULD PRESENT IT TO THE TOWN BOARD, AND THEN WE COULD, UH, HOPEFULLY PICK ONE OUT OF THE THREE.
AND, AND IF IT'S ONE OF THE PLACES IN THE VILLAGE WHERE SHE'D LIVED, WE COULD CERTAINLY WORK WITH THE VOTE OFFICIALS THERE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
IT WOULD BE MY PLEASURE TO TAKE ON THAT ASSIGNMENT.
SO NOW YOU'RE THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE,
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ASPIRES TO
BUT AGAIN, I, AGAIN, I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR WORDS TWO YEARS AGO.
THEY STILL RING VERY CLEAR IN OUR, IN OUR, IN OUR MEMORIES.
AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO NOW.
WHO IS SHOULD I MAKE AS MY POINT OF CONTACT? IT COULD BE REALLY THE TOWN BOARD.
AND YOU KNOW, YOUR MOTHER WAS JUST A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING.
YOU KNOW, NOT EVEN LIKE A, NOT ONLY A, A TERRIFIC JUDGE AND A, A GREAT PUBLIC SERVANT, BUT SOMEBODY WHO REALLY CARED ABOUT PEOPLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO, YOU KNOW, KNEW HER WOULD KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, BEING A JUDGE WAS JUST ONE PART OF HER LIFE.
BUT SHE REALLY DID SO MUCH FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND I NEVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING A PASSENGER IN HER CAR.
I, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THOUGHT OF IT AS PLEASURE THOUGH, FROM WHAT JILL SAID.
JILL, IF YOU WRITE EMAILS TO TOWN BOARD AT GREENBERG AND Y WE ALL GET IT.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR REMINDING US.
UM, DID MY MOTHER, YES, WE CERTAINLY FOUND TICKETS IN THE CAR AFTERWARDS.
SO
IT WAS THE TICKETS IN THE OTHER TOWNS THAT COULDN'T QUITE GET FIXED.
NOTHING OUTSTANDING ON EITHER HER RECORD OR HER, UH, YOU KNOW, OR HER ESTATE.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY YOUR MOTHER WAS A MENTOR TO ME.
I'M JUDITH IL GREENBERG TOWN CLERK, AND THIS IS NOT A COMPLICATED PROCESS.
I WISH YOU FLOWERS YOU THE BALANCE OF YOUR PROCEEDINGS.
OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE THE WILDWOOD CONDOMINIUM SHUTTLE.
OH, WILDWOOD, RIGHT? IS THERE ON, IS THERE SOMEONE ON THE ZOOM? OH, THAT'S FINE.
MATTHEW, PLEASE SAY YES OR, OR CLICK YES.
RICHARD V AND ROBERTA ARE ALSO, THERE MAY BE A, UM, RESIDENCE OF WILDWOOD, BUT THERE MAY, AND I ALSO HAVE, THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE ELSE.
FRANK CAYMAN, WHO'S A MEMBER OF THE BOARD, SHOULD ALSO BE IN ON THE ZOOM AS WELL.
THE ELECTRONS ARE MOVING AND WE KNOW THAT WE COULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN PERSON.
WE WOULD'VE BEEN THERE IN PERSON INSTEAD OF, UH, BY ZOOM.
THIS IS OUR REQUEST OF, UH, THE BOARD TO REFER A MATTER TO THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, REGARDING A JITNEY SHUTTLE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN PROVIDING AND WAS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE WHEN THE, UH, PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.
SINCE COVID, THE NECESSITY FOR THE SHUTTLE NO LONGER EXISTS.
SO WE'D LIKE TO COMPLY WITH OUR OBLIGATIONS, BUT MODIFY 'EM IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE FOUR SHUTTLES IN THE MORNING AND THREE IN THE EVENING.
SO, SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS A DOCUMENT THAT I ASSUME YOU HAVE WRITTEN THAT OUTLINES THE WORDING THAT YOU'D LIKE COMPARED TO WHAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTS.
HOW MUCH IS THE SHUTTLE COSTING YOU? UM, AND, UM, WHAT'S THE RIDERSHIP? THE, UH, BEFORE COVID, THE, UH, SHUTTLE WAS, UH, APPROXIMATELY $54,000 A YEAR.
UM, THE PROVIDER OF THAT, UH, SERVICE, UH, LOCAL PROVIDER, HE WENT OUT OF THAT BUSINESS.
UH, ONCE, UH, COVID, UH, CANCELED OF THE SERVICE.
HE GOT RID OF HIS INSURANCE, GOT RID OF THE SHUTTLE.
UH, I, UH, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY, UH, 300 RIDES PER MONTH.
UH, NOT RIDERS, BUT 301 WAY RIDES, IF YOU WILL, UH, PER MONTH AS A BASIC AVERAGE.
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WE PERIODICALLY CONDUCTED QUESTIONNAIRES OF OUR, UH, PEOPLE.WE'RE AN 86 UNIT, UH, CONDOMINIUM.
UH, AND THE LAST, UH, QUESTIONNAIRE WE SENT AROUND ONLY TWO PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY WOULD USE, UH, THE SHUTTLE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UM, AND, UH, THE COSTS HAVE, UH, SKYROCKETED.
BUT WE WANNA PROVIDE A TRANSPORTATION SERVICE, UH, TO, UH, THE TERRYTOWN STATION.
SO WHERE, WHERE EXACTLY IS SKAGGS ROAD LOCATED? UM, IT, WE ARE BETWEEN HACKLEY AND SIEMENS.
UM, WE'RE OFF OF BENEDICT AVENUE.
UM, YOU DON'T REALLY SEE US FROM THE ROAD EXCEPT FOR A SIGN.
SO S SCAGGS LEADS INTO, UH, SIEMENS.
WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING AS FAR AS LANGUAGE, WHICH STATES, UH, AT JOB OF THE OBLIGATION OF THE ASSOCIATION TO PROVIDE UNIT OWNERS WITH TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM A SELECTED COMMUTER RAILROAD STATION DURING MORNING AND EVENING PEAK HOURS, IN A MANNER DETERMINED BY THE BOARD OF MANAGERS FROM TIME TO TIME, WHICH MAY BE BY PROVIDING A SHUTTLE REIMBURSEMENT FOR CAB OR OTHER SUCH METHODS ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF MANAGERS IN ITS DISCRETION.
NOWHERE IN THERE IS THERE ANYTHING BASED ON WHAT THE, UH, UNIT OWNERS MIGHT NEED.
IT'S SOLELY AT THE BOARD OF MANAGERS DISCRETION AS TO WHAT'S OFFERED.
AND I ASSUME THE HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH MAY ESSENTIALLY MAKE IT THAT NO ONE'S RIDING TO THE BUS, TO THE, UH, TRAIN STATION.
WELL, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE BOARD OF MANAGERS IS COMPRISED OF ALL UNIT OWNERS.
WE LIVE AND OWNED UNITS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THE, IN TERMS OF THE HOURS OF SERVICE, THAT WAS THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY REQUIRED, UH, IN THE COVENANT.
UM, I SUPPOSE THAT IF OUR UNIT OWNERS DIDN'T WANTED A SERVICE THAT WE WEREN'T PROVIDING, UH, I WOULDN'T BE A MEMBER.
I, I WOULD ASSUME AT THE NEXT ELECTION, NOT BE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF MANAGERS.
I MEAN, WE, OUR GOAL IS TO SATISFY OUR UNIT OWNERS TO THE EXTENT, UH, THAT WE CAN.
BUT THE
UH, THE, THE, UH, IT BALLOONED UP TO $182,000, UH, BY A, UH, UH, ONE OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMPANIES.
UH, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE OUR SERVICE.
I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICE TO OUR UNIT OWNERS.
THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE CHANGE.
WE, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO CHANGE THAT INTENT.
WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE IT.
HOW WE PROVIDE IT IS MAYBE CHANGE FROM TIME TO TIME IF IT PROVES TO BE THE RIGHT WAY.
'CAUSE WE HAVE, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING BACK TO WORK AND COMMUTING, AND A JITNEY MAKES SENSE.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW A JITNEY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
WE WOULD HAVE NOBODY USING IT.
UM, AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING IS BECAUSE ONE AND ONE REASON WHY WE'VE COME HERE IS THAT WE TRY TO PROVIDE OTHER SERVICES OR TRY TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO PROVIDE A TRANSPORTATION SERVICE.
OUR INSURANCE CARRIER HAS SAID THAT HOWEVER WE PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, WE THEN HAVE TO HAVE AN INSURANCE BEHIND IT THAT, UM, UH, SATISFIES THE INSURANCE COMPANY.
UH, AND IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, THEY WOULD PULL OUR INSURANCE.
THE INSURANCE CARRIER IS HAPPY WITH THIS LANGUAGE IN TERMS OF THE REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM.
UM, SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE AND STILL, UH, GET OUR INSURANCE, YOU KNOW, IN CONCEPT.
IT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME, BUT THE LANGUAGE, UM, I'D LIKE THE ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SEE, WELL, WELL, WOULD THE, YOUR BOARD BE OPEN TO CHANGING THE LANGUAGE IF THIS IS REFERRED TO THE PLANNING BOARD
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AND THE PLANNING BOARD WERE TO COME BACK AND, AND MAKE OTHER SUGGESTIONS? OR ARE YOU DOWN TO THIS LANGUAGE,WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
THE GOAL, THE GOAL IN THE LANGUAGE IS TO AVOID US COMING BACK TO YOU A YEAR FROM NOW, TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THREE YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN THINGS CHANGE.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE JIMMY WAS A VERY, VERY SPECIFIC OBLIGATION.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE THE SERVICE, BUT DO SO IN THE BEST WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I DON'T THINK, THAT CERTAINLY WASN'T MY, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, UH, IMPLY.
I WAS SAYING THAT IN CONCEPT IT DOES SOUND GOOD AND I JUST WONDER ABOUT THE LANGUAGE AND, AND CONVEYING IT.
I I I WAS A LAWYER BACK BEFORE COVID.
AND TO ME, THAT'S JUST A QUESTION OF VERBIAGE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE QUESTION OF INTENT.
OUR INTENT IS YEAH, OF COURSE WHAT WE WANNA DO.
AND IF THERE'S WAYS TO IMPROVE IT, BY ALL MEANS.
YOU ARE, YOU ARE A VERY GOOD LAWYER.
UH, MY MY MY POINT IS THAT RIGHT NOW, WE OBVIOUSLY PUT THIS IN HERE BECAUSE THERE, THERE WAS AN OUTCRY FROM THE COMMUNITY, MEANING THE UNIT OWNERS.
HAVE YOU SURVEYED THE UNIT OWNERS AS TO WHAT THEY THINK OF THIS TYPE OF A CHANGE? AND WHAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE? WE HAVE FOR, I ASSUME THAT WAS FRANCIS, UH, SPEAKING.
SO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN
WE CANVASSED THE COMMUNITY SEVERAL TIMES AS TO USAGE AND AS TO WHAT TO DO.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, TOLD THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE EXPLORED THAT WE'RE EXPLORING SEVERAL ALTERNATIVES.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED, UH, THIS AS A REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
WE'VE EXPRESSED IT CERTAINLY TO, UH, PEOPLE WHO, WHO HAVE COME, UH, TO US TO FIND OUT, UH, WHAT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I MEAN, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD THE, UH, JITNEY SHUT DOWN IN THE INTERIM TO TRY AND HELP, UH, PEOPLE OUT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS IF SOMEBODY GOES AND BUYS A PARKING PERMIT, A NON-RESIDENT PARKING PERMIT, WE HAVE FELT THAT IT'S OUR OBLIGATION THAT TO PROVIDE A SUBSIDY FOR THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PROVIDING THE, THE JITNEY SERVICE, UH, OR AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE GNY SERVICE.
UH, SO WE EXPLAINED TO, UM, THE COMMUNITY, UH, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING, RIGHT? SO I, I THINK WHILE WE
UM, WE THINK IT'S, UH, WAS A SELLING POINT.
IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I BOUGHT INTO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO, UH, WE VIEW THE PROVIDING THE TRANSPORTATION AS A BIG PLUS.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, I, BY SENDING IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON THIS OR NOT.
BUT IF THEY DON'T, I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, WHEN WE GET BACK THEIR RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS, THEN WHAT WORDING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
THAT'S MY OPINION IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, CONDITION HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, MODIFIED.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND DEVELOPERS ALWAYS COME IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE GONNA BE DOING ALL THESE GREAT THINGS.
AND THEN FIVE YEARS LATER OR 10 YEARS LATER, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT WERE PROMISED ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE NOT IMPLEMENTED.
I'M WONDERING IF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ASK, YOU KNOW, THE THE PLANNING BOARD, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, TO PUT IN SORT OF LIKE SOME OPTIONS.
SO IF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, IF SOMETHING IS NOT KEPT IN PERPETUITY, YOU THIS, SOME GIVE BACK, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING WITH THIS WORDING AS I READ IT, WE'RE GIVING OVER ANY CONTROL WE HAVE OVER THIS AND WE'RE REMOVING IT IN, IN ITS ENTIRETY.
NO SAYING, SAYING WE WOULD NO LONGER HAVE A CONDITION SIMILAR TO
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THE EXISTING ONE, WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US TO MODIFY SOMETHING.SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HEAR WHAT THE ACTUAL, THE, THE, THE UNIT OWNERS ARE, ARE SAYING AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY THINK THIS IS, THIS IS FINE.
UM, MAYBE THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT'S LEFT IN THERE THAT PROVIDES SOME FALLBACK JUST IN CASE.
BUT, UM, NO ONE WANTS YOU TO BE SPENDING MONEY ON A JITNEY THAT'S NOBODY'S USING PARTICULARLY AT A VERY HIGH COST.
AND SO ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT AN UNREASONABLE ASK.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THIS LANGUAGE IS SOMETHING THAT I'M CURRENTLY COMFORTABLE WITH.
BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC IS ALL ABOUT.
SO WHAT I CAN PROPOSE IS A RESOLUTION, UH, REFERRING THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S SOME UPDATES TO THE LANGUAGE BY THE TIME IT COMES BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD.
AND THEN, UM, YES, A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE TOWN BOARD WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROCESS USED FOR, UM, THE AVALON NOW THE VISTA.
SO, UM, IF WE FOLLOW SUIT THERE, WE'LL BE CONSISTENT AND YOU WILL GET THAT PUBLIC INPUT.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE LEAF BLOWER, UM, UNIT ISH ISSUES.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHTS ON WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS SHOULD BE.
WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND UM, YOU KNOW, ANY THOUGHTS ON EITHER MODIFICATIONS OR DO WE WANT TO TRY WHILE WE HAD, UH, FOR ONE YEAR? OR DO WE WANT TO MAKE ANY, ANY CHANGES? YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS, YOU KNOW, I HAD WAS THAT SINCE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BAN LEAF BLOWING ANY LEAF BLOWING FOR TWICE A WEEK, YOU MAYBE DIVIDE THE TOWN INTO TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ONE AREA, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE SAY TUESDAY AND THURSDAY, ANOTHER AREA MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY, BECAUSE THIS WAY THE LEAF BLOWERS ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU WON'T GET A LOT OF LEAF LOWERING WELL AT ONCE.
AND IT'S ALSO MORE ACCOMMODATING TO THE, UM, GARDENING GARDENERS WHO MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN TO SPREAD OUT THEIR, UM, THEIR WORK TO, IF WE TRY THAT THEY'RE NOT LIMITED TO JUST TWO DAYS OR THREE DAYS THAT THEY HAVE TO WORK NECESSARILY.
I THINK THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY WE ROLL OUT OTHER TOWN, UH, SERVICES AND RESTRICTIONS.
IF WE WERE TO GO THAT ROUTE, WE WOULD HAVE TO RE-NOTICE A NEW LAW AND HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING
UM, WHY WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED LIKE A NON, THAT'S A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE.
IT WAS SOMETHING I SUGGEST ACTUALLY COUNCIL MORGAN JACKSON SUGGESTED, UM, LAST YEAR, TWO YEARS AGO.
SO, UH, BUT IT DOES MAKE MORE SENSE.
I HAD SUGGESTED THE SANITATION SCHEDULE, BUT NOBODY KNOWS THEIR SANITATION.
SO, SO DO YOU, IS THERE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE NORTH OR SOUTH OF ONE 19 OR SOMETHING THAT'S VERY EASY TO IDENTIFY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS THAT ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, HAS IN TERMS OF, UH, THE HOURS OR MODIFICATIONS? I THINK NO MATTER WHAT WE DO DO, WE'RE JUST, UH, SHIFTING THE, UH, CHAIRS ON, ON, ON THE DECK, ON THE DECK OF THE SATANIC.
UH, BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, 50% ARE GOING TO LOVE IT AND 50 ARE GOING TO BE OKAY WITH IT AND 50% ARE GONNA HATE IT.
SO THEN DO YOU WANT TO DO THE, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE MODIFICATIONS AND THEN WELL, COULD YOU DO YOUR, UH, MAPPING TO FIND OUT WHERE WOULD THE DIVIDING LINE BE? 'CAUSE IN NO SENSE HAVING 80%, YOU KNOW, FOR WHEN I LOOKED AT ONE 19, FOR EXAMPLE, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS TOO HEAVILY WEIGHTED TO THE SOUTH.
AND UH, SO WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
OR MAYBE WE DO CENTRAL, MAYBE WE DO THREE CENTRAL HAVE A NEW BEING SPLIT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD BECAUSE WE DON'T RUN TRUE NORTH SOUTH ON EACH OF OUR ROADS.
SOME OF OUR ROADS BEND AND IT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK TONIGHT.
PUBLIC WORK WILL BE ABLE TO ASSIST YOU TOO.
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SO WOULD WE PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR JUST SO ALONG? WELL, I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO JUST, WE, WE HAVE TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND, AND GENERATE THE NEW, GENERATE THE NEW LAW VOTE ON THE PREVIOUS LAW AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, THEN POST PUBLIC NOTICE.SO WE'LL, WE'LL GET THE PROCESS STARTED.
IF THIS LAW THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED JUST MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS, UH, FRIDAYS IS BEING VOTED DOWN.
WE'LL MOVE FORWARD IN ANOTHER LAW.
A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOUR FOR PERSONAL CONTRACTS.
LEGAL, WELL PERSON CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS, PERSONNEL.
WE GOT, UH, A COUPLE OF, I GUESS, LAWSUITS THAT, UH, WE, WE NEED TO DIS NEED TO DISCUSS.
AND, UH, WE HAVE TO CONDUCT INTERVIEWS AND WE'RE CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS WITH CANDIDATES FOR DIFFERENT POSITIONS.