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OKAY.

WELCOME TO

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THE TOWN BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY 15TH, UM, AFTER FOUR 30.

AND, UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS, UM, JERRY BYRNE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

YEAH.

GOOD.

GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, EVERYONE.

I'M, UH, YOUR MICROPHONE'S NOT ON.

NOT ON.

GREAT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

UM, I HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU A, UH, SPREADSHEET FOR THE 2023.

JERRY, COULD YOU BRING IT CLOSER? MAYBE I NEED TO PUT IT RIGHT OVER HERE THEN.

ALRIGHT.

IS THAT BETTER NOW? I THINK SO.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, I HAVE A SPREADSHEET IN FRONT OF YOU OF, UH, SEVEN ITEMS, UM, FOR THE, UH, CAPITAL REQUESTS FOR 2023.

AND THE, UH, FIRST ITEM, WHICH I HAVE UNDER, UH, PR ON THE DETAIL THAT I EMAILED YOU, UH, ONE A THAT IS A NUMBER ONE IS A FUNDED CAPITAL REQUEST.

UH, THAT IS FOR GETTING, UH, ANOTHER, UH, FORD TRANSIT CONNECT VAN FOR THE NUTRITION PROGRAM, WHICH WE PROVIDE MEALS, UH, FOR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

SO THAT'S A, A FUNDED REQUEST FOR $32,000.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS? HOW OLD IS, HOW OLD IS THE VEHICLE YOU'RE REPLACING? UH, THE VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE THERE RIGHT NOW IS A 2014 VEHICLE THAT HAS, UH, 53,769 MILES ON IT.

UH, AT THE REQUEST OF THE REPAIR SHOP, THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS THE, UH, RIGHT TIME TO HAVE IT REPLACED.

AND IS THAT VEHICLE PERHAPS HYBRID OR ELECTRIC? NO, IT'S NOT THAT A, THAT IS A GUESS ONE HYBRID WOULD WOULD FOR GREENBURG THAT WOULD COST, UH, EXTRA FUNDING.

IF I CAN, I CAN CALL GERARD AND ASK HIM HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE IF IT'S AVAILABLE.

I KNOW THIS IS ON GOVERNMENT, UH, CONTRACT.

MM-HMM.

, UM, THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE ANOTHER HYBRID.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AVAILABLE.

YOU, IF THE STATE IS, I'M NOT SURE, BUT WE USUALLY TAKE THE LEAD FROM THERE.

YEAH.

THERE'S, WE TAKE THE LEAD FROM REPAIR SHOP.

SO I, I THINK THIS CONVERSATION WE SHOULD FOLLOW UP WITH D P W.

YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT ON ALL VEHICLES, JUST IN GENERAL, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE, UM, A COMMUNITY THAT IS VERY COGNIZANT OF CLIMATE AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND, AND AS THE, UH, SUPERVISOR SUGGESTED THERE, THERE PROBABLY GRANTS THAT WE CAN FIND THAT WOULD OFFSET SOME OF THE COST.

BUT I AGREE WITH JERRY THOUGH.

WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REPAIR SHOP BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO DO THE FOLLOW UP ON ANY OF THE VEHICLES THAT ARE PURCHASED.

WELL, I, I, THEY HAVE THE ABILITIES.

I UNDERSTAND.

HOWEVER, THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL BE, ARE MORE INCLINED TO STAY WITH WHAT THEY KNOW RATHER THAN, AND WE DO HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF OUR ENVIRONMENT.

AND WE ARE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEAF BLOWER LAWS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ITEMS. SO WE, I, WE REALLY SHOULD CONSIDER, UM, LOOKING INTO AND, AND MAYBE TWISTING ARMS A LITTLE BIT TO, TO ACCEPT THAT THERE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE AND HOW TO REPAIR.

WELL, WELL THEN THAT, THAT LEADS TO THE NEXT, UH, AND THE B FUND.

THE, THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS A FORD ESCAPE, SS U V THAT PRESENTLY IS IN FOR $34,000.

I WILL TRY TO FIND OUT, AT LEAST IT'S FOR BETTER GAS MILEAGE, IS TO GO WITH A HYBRID.

I KNOW.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY OR HAVE THE EQUIPMENT SET UP FOR A ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLE.

'CAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE THE ELECTRIC STATION.

RIGHT.

I WILL FIND OUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON CONTRACT FOR A HYBRID AND I CAN PRESENT BACK TO YOU, WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL COST FOR THAT.

SURE.

AND WHAT IS THAT? UH, THAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE ITEM, UH, UH, IN THE B FUND, WHICH IS THE ONE RIGHT BELOW.

RIGHT.

BUT WHAT IS, THE FIRST ONE IS AN A FUND, RIGHT? WHAT IS THAT FOR? THAT IS BASICALLY WE HAVE A FLEET, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR THE, UH, COMMISSIONER, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AND THE UM, UH, PARK SUPERINTENDENT.

SO WHEN WE GET THE CARS, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE ROTATE, ROTATE 'EM AROUND.

SO, UH, I, I WOULD, UH, DEFINITELY LOOK, I'M PRETTY SURE FOR THAT S U V TYPE STYLE, THERE IS A HYBRID DEFINITELY THAT'S OUT THERE.

OKAY.

NO DOUBT.

I'LL JUST FIND OUT HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL, I JUST BOUGHT A HYBRID S U V AND, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT MUCH MORE THIS, THIS WOULD BE IN A GOOD RANGE.

OKAY.

BUT THAT'D BE GREAT.

AND ULTIMATELY THERE WILL BE SAVINGS OVER TIME.

BUT, BUT AS FAR AS THE FORD, UH, TRANSIT CONNECT VAN, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT TYPE OF VEHICLE, WHICH HAS A BIG CARGO SPACE THAT WE NEED WHEN WE MM-HMM.

TRANSPORT, IF THEY HAVE A HYBRID AVAILABLE.

SURE.

SO IF IT'S NOT UNDERSTOOD, I WOULD SAY KEEP THAT GAS.

BUT I'M PRETTY SURE FOR THE OTHER ONE, FOR THE, UH, MANAGEMENT TEAM, I'M PRETTY SURE WE CAN FIND A HYBRID.

MAKES SENSE.

THANK YOU.

HOW OLD IS 1 0 7? 1 0 7? UM, LEMME GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

THAT WAS THE ONE THAT, THAT, THAT

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HAS 53,000 MILES ON IT.

I THINK IT'S, IT'S RIGHT AROUND 10 YEARS OLD.

IT'S ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD.

YES.

WHICH I THINK IS THE, UH, THE TURNAROUND TIME THAT THE REPAIR SHOP LOOKS TO, TO REPLACE VEHICLES.

YEAH.

AND I, THERE HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION THAT WE MIGHT, UH, KEEP THAT IN THE FLEET, UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A SHORTAGE, YOU KNOW, OF VEHICLES EVEN WITHIN OUR, YOU KNOW, PARKS DIVISION.

LIKE WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THE PART-TIME ARBORS NOW MM-HMM.

, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT INDIVIDUAL VEHICLE.

SO WHEN, UH, THAT INDIVIDUAL'S ON THE JOB, WE HAVE HAD ONGOING DISCUSSIONS OF KEEPING THAT RATHER THAN PUT THAT UP FOR OFF.

YEAH.

BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T GET AS MUCH USAGE AND YEAH.

WOULDN'T THEREFORE NOT NEED AS MUCH REPAIR.

REPAIR.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

53,000 MILES THOUGH THESE DAYS IS NOT A LOT OF MILES ON A CAR.

IS IT? IS IT HAVING MECHANICAL PROBLEMS? NO, NO, BECAUSE THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF VEHICLE AND AT, WE HAVE THE, UH, ARBORISTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER VEHICLE AVAILABLE.

THIS IS WHAT CAME IN.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE COULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT LONGER.

BUT WHEN IT IS 10 YEARS OLD, WHILE IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF MILEAGE, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT START TO CATCH UP AND, AND FAIL ON IT.

BUT THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS THAT THIS WOULD HELP, UH, A SHORTAGE VEHICLE AND THEN WE WOULD JUST GET THE NEW ONE INTO THE, UH, FLEET.

DO YOU HAVE A BOBCAT? YEAH.

THE, THE BOBCAT.

IT'S A SKID STEER THAT'S A SKID STEER, UM, MULTI-USE, UM, PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WHERE WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BACKHOES AND, AND, UH, UH, A, A BLADE FOR SPREADING STUFF IN IT.

UM, IT'S THE ONE THAT WE HAVE, WE BOUGHT IN 2020, AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADD ADDITIONAL ATTACHMENTS, WHICH REALLY MAKES IT VERY MULTI, YOU KNOW, FUNCTIONAL WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A BACKHOE, A 36 INCH DIGGER FOR, FOR HOL AUGER WITH A BIT A BUCKET SKELETON AND A REAR, UH, STABILIZERS.

UM, SO IF YOU KNOW JERRY, UM, IF, IF THE COST OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS 38 5, HOW MUCH ARE WE SAVING BY NOT HAVING TO CONTRACT WITH OUTSIDE SERVICES? BY PURCHASING IT, PURCHASING IT? UH, WELL, IT'S HARD TO FIND.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, A A LOT OF MONEY.

IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARILY THE LABOR.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, IS WHEN YOU NEED TO GET THE EQUIPMENT AND IT'S HARD TO ACQUIRE MM-HMM.

THROUGH, YOU KNOW, RENTAL, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT.

MM-HMM.

.

AND FOR THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MORE ON THAT.

WE DO HAVE OPERATORS INTERNALLY TO DO IT MM-HMM.

, IF WE DID, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WOULD BE A LOT.

YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS, AND THE OTHER THING I WANT THEY MORE THAN 38, 5, THE THING THAT WE DO, WHICH IS GREAT, AND I REALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OR SO WITH D P W MM-HMM.

, WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

AND WE DO SHARE EQUIPMENT.

MM-HMM.

, THEY HAVE A BOBCAT AND THEY HAVE IT, BUT THERE'S TIMES WHEN WE NEED A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

SO THIS IS ADDED EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR TALENT SERVICES.

MM-HMM.

, IT REALLY, I THINK IS AND YOU'RE AMORTIZING IT OVER HOW MANY YEARS? FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS.

UM, I, I PUT IN A REQUEST.

I'D HAVE TO YIELD THAT.

YEAH.

BUT I WAS JUST ACTUALLY PROBABLY USING LOT, PROBABLY A 10 YEAR, I WOULD SAY 10 YEARS FOR PERSONAL EQUIPMENT AND SPENDING, RENTING OUT THE EQUIPMENT OVER 10 YEARS.

EVERY YEAR WOULD BE CERTAINLY COST MORE.

THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DO.

UH, WHETHER IT'S TRENCHING TO PUT LAYING CABLE DOWN, WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO CAMERAS OVER AT YOSEMITE AND WE'RE GONNA BE USING EQUIPMENT JUST TO DO THE INTERNAL WORK BEFORE WE BRING IN THE EXPERTS TO ACTUALLY INSTALL THE CAMERAS.

MM-HMM.

.

SO JUST DOING ALL THAT GROUNDWORK OR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, UH, PREPARING A PLAYGROUND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE TAKING IT, TEARING IT DOWN.

WE DO THAT INTERNALLY AS OPPOSED TO HIRING OUT.

AND A LOT OF TIMES THE BOBCAT IS WHAT WE'RE USING FOR THAT.

RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

THAT LOOKS GOOD.

THANKS.

I ALREADY WENT OVER 15 MINUTES.

MM-HMM.

, I, YOU NOW TALK FASTER.

YOU CAN DO IT .

DAMN DARN.

THE OVER UNDER ON THAT WAS NOT .

I'M SUCH A COMPETITIVE GUY.

SO, UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON IT IS, UH, AT TRAVIS HILL PARK, WE HAVE, UH, FOUR TENNIS COURTS.

UM, UH, UH, TWO OF THE COURTS OR, SO YOU'RE ALREADY MENTIONING 2023.

DID YOU HAVE A, THE F THREE 50? YEAH.

FOR 2020.

THAT'S FOR 2024.

OKAY.

ON THE SPREADSHEET, IF YOU SEE, GO TO THE RIGHT OF THAT.

YEAH, NO, I'M SAYING, SO YOU'RE ONLY GONNA DISCUSS 2023.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THE NEXT ITEM, UM, REALLY THE TENNIS COURT, UH, PICKLEBALL CONVERSION AND TENNIS COURT REHABILITATION AND REPAINTING.

I JUST SORT OF LUMPED THEM TOGETHER, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE REQUESTS.

UM, WE HAVE FOUR TENNIS COURTS AT TRAVIS HILL PARK AND, UH, THE COURTS THREE AND FOUR ARE IN, UH, RELATIVELY GOOD SHAPE.

TWO AND ONE ARE NOT.

AND, UH, THEY REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED PROBABLY A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

BUT I'M SORT OF GLAD WITH THE EMERGENCE OF HIGHER DEMAND, UM, FOR PICKLEBALL.

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AND TRAVIS HILL PARK, UM, IS A REALLY UNIQUE PARK BECAUSE THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THERE.

THERE'S A, A, I THINK, UH, WHETHER IT'S A CO-OP AND CONDOMINIUM HOME OWNERS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, WALK TO THAT PARK.

WE DO HAVE, UH, LIMITED PARKING IN THERE.

UM, BUT WE FELT AFTER, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO SOME, UH, OUR, OUR REPRESENTATIVE IN THE AREA AND STAFF, THE, THE EMERGENCE OF PICKLEBALL, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE COURT NUMBER TWO AND CONVERT, EVEN WHILE THE TENNIS NET'S THERE, WE'D LIKE TO CONVERT IT INTO FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS.

UH, THE COST FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE WITH PERMANENT, UH, POSTS FOR THE FOUR COURTS WOULD BE $39,900.

SO ONCE THE TENNIS COURT IS CONVERTED TO PICKLEBALL, CAN YOU STILL PLAY TENNIS ON IT OR THE, THE, UM, IN THIS CASE, UM, IF YOU HAD, IF YOU HAD TEMPORARY NETS MM-HMM.

, YES.

MM-HMM.

, BUT THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SUPERVISED AREA.

I'D RATHER JUST HAVE PERMIT.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, NETS THERE MM-HMM.

AND THEN JUST PLAY IT.

UM, THE TENNIS NET ITSELF IS STILL GONNA BE THERE.

'CAUSE THAT'D BE A BARRIER.

MM-HMM.

BETWEEN THE FRONT AND THE BACK.

MM-HMM.

, WE WILL KEEP THAT UP TO HOLD THE, THE TENNIS BALLS, BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE A PERMANENT FOR THAT.

OKAY.

COULD IT BE CONVERTED BACK IF IT COMES? YES, BUT I, I DON'T SEE THAT TREND HAPPENING IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A YEAR, RIGHT? YES.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR, BUT WE, WE DID NOT SUBMIT IT IN THE BUDGET.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING FOUR BRAND NEW PICKLEBALL COURTS RIGHT NOW.

THAT WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF MAY OR EARLY JUNE AT OKAY.

SO THIS IS ON TOP OF THAT IN, IN ADDITION TO THAT.

CORRECT? MM-HMM.

PUT THIS, SO JERRY, ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN, UH, SOME OF THE TENNIS COURTS AT TRAVIS HILL? WELL, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO ON COURT, NUMBER ONE, I'M TRYING TO REHABILITATE THAT UHHUH.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THERE'S FOUR TENNIS COURTS THERE NOW.

RIGHT.

UM, THREE OF 'EM WILL REMAIN ONE OF 'EM.

OH, OKAY.

WE WANT TO COMPLETELY, IT'S A, IT'S A NICE THING WHERE WE BASICALLY POWER WASH THE COURT MM-HMM.

THAT WE, WE FILL IN THE CRACK TO SOME ARMOR RAW AND RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, SPEND A, YOU KNOW, LIKE $80,000 AND REDO THE WHOLE THING, THIS BASICALLY HAS A SEVEN TO 10 YEAR LIFE EXPENSE.

THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM DOWN.

COULD WE USE, SINCE THIS IS A NEW, UH, RECREATION, UM, COULD WE USE, DEVELOP NON TAXPAYER DEVELOPER ESCROW FUNDS FOR THE TWO PICKLEBALL, YOU KNOW, COURTS OF TRAVIS.

BECAUSE THE BIG PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS THAT THERE'S SO MANY REQUESTS AND THEY WERE ALL BASICALLY GOOD.

AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST REALIZED FEEL THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD EVERY SINGLE REQUEST THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS MADE.

AND IF WE COULD USE NON TAXPAYER DOLLARS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UH, I, I, I'M AGAINST THAT, UH, RECOMMENDATION.

THE FIRM IS STARTING TO, UH, THE DIMINISH, THIS IS A REALLY SMALL PROJECT.

I SEE THIS $28 MILLION OF REQUESTS WHILE I'M ONLY GOING $530,000.

THERE IS A DEMAND FOR DOING IT.

IT TAKES MONTHS FOR ME TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR A PARKS, USING PARKLAND FUNDS.

IF THIS GETS APPROVED, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY GET DONE THIS YEAR.

THERE IS A HIGH DEMAND FOR THAT.

I KNOW THERE'S A HIGH, IT'S ONLY 38, 39 9.

IF YOU CAME TO ME FOR A PROJECT THAT WAS LIKE $200,000 THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS MORE SIGNIFICANT, UH, I, I WOULD LOOK AT THAT.

I WOULD QUESTION WHETHER IT'S NEW OR NOT TOO, BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE SAME FOOTPRINT OF A PREVIOUS EXISTING RECREATION FACILITY.

SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD QUALIFY.

IT WOULD, BECAUSE IT, IT'S A NEW FACILITY.

THE PROBLEM THAT WE GOING FROM TENNIS WE'RE DEVELOPING INTO THAT.

I THINK IT, IT, IT WOULD FOR THAT SHOW, THE PROBLEM THAT WE REALLY HAVE IS, UM, THAT I HAVE, I DEFINITELY HAVE TO MAKE CUT.

YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO ROBERTA EARLIER.

WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO MAKE CUTS IN THE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET THAT WAS REQUESTED.

YEAH.

AND YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, I'M JUST TRYING, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT WHEN I, WHEN I LISTEN TO ALL THE REQUESTS, THEY'RE ALL, ALL GOOD.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD TAKE $28,000 AND TAKE IT FROM TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND, AND MAKE IT NON TAXPAYER DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER.

IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR US.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THE, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH DECISION FOR YOU TO MAKE AT THIS, AT THIS POINT.

NOW, I'M, I'M NOT, UM, RECOMMENDING TO USE THAT.

WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH IN ADDITION CAN I MAKE, WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE.

'CAUSE I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE ARE TARGETING RIGHT NOW.

WE NEED TO REPLACE, UM, PLAYGROUNDS AT OLD HARRY TOWN ROAD AT SEACOR WOODS AND BOTANICAL.

AND I WOULD RATHER USE PARKLAND FUNDS FOR THOSE PROJECTS AND THAT THAT'S FINE.

AND CO-OP WITH, WITH THE, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS AT O T R OR POCAN AND, AND, AND, AND, AND FOCUS ON THAT THAN, UH, TAKING IT FOR SOMETHING SMALLER LIKE THIS, WHICH, LIKE JOE SAID, IT IS IN THE GRAY AREA, BUT I THINK IT WOULD QUALIFY.

UM, YEAH, WHY DON'T WE LIKE, KEEP A WISHLIST LIST OF, IN A, IN A SENSE, A SEPARATE LIST OF THINGS THAT POTENTIALLY COULD GO TO THOSE FUNDS AND THEN MAKE A DECISION AFTER WE'VE

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GOT THAT LIST OF THINGS OF WHAT SHOULD BE DONE OR NOT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, ROBERTA? MM-HMM.

, I MEAN, IN ESSENCE, THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET, ALL THE REQUESTS ARE THE REQUESTS THAT IS THE WISHLIST IS LIST WISHLIST.

NOT THE WISHLIST OF CAP FOR CAPITAL BUDGET, BUT FOR THE, THE NON TAXPAYER FUNDS.

SO THEN WE DECIDE WHAT WE CAN PAY FOR OUT OF NON TAXPAYER FUNDS.

'CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST KEEP THROWING IT IN.

WE'RE NOT DOING ANY TALLY OR ANYTHING.

UM, AND SOME OF THE THINGS HAVE CONSIDERATIONS JUST AS JERRY JUST MENTIONED.

SO JUST WHAT WE HAVE DONE SOMETIMES FOR THE, UH, PARKLAND FUNDS.

AND I NEED TO UPDATE IT.

'CAUSE THE PLANNING BOARD IN THE PAST REQUESTED THAT I GIVE THEM AN UPDATED LIST OF, OF PROJECTS.

'CAUSE THEY JUST DON'T WANT ME TO COME, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE IT.

SO I NEED TO GET THAT UP UPDATED.

AND I'LL ADD, YOU KNOW, I'LL ADD THAT AND SEND THAT TO THEM AND TO YOU FOR IT.

AS FAR AS YOU AS A BOARD MAKING DECISIONS, I HAVE THIS IN PRIORITY FORM, THE SPREADSHEET'S THERE, IT GOES FROM ONE TO SIX.

IT WAS REQUESTED IN THE PAST WITH THE COMPTROLLER, AND WE COMPLIED, PRIORITIZE YOUR STUFF.

SO PAUL, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT CUT IT IS THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS THE ZARO PARK PROJECT, WHICH IS THE, IS THE BIGGEST NUMBER OUTTA EVERYTHING.

THAT ALMOST SLASHES MY REQUEST IN HALF.

I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND WE'LL JUST COMPLY WITH IT.

YEAH.

SO, SO THE OTHER ITEM ON THAT IS THE POOL CONCRETE WORK, WHICH IS THE NUMBER FIVE, UH, UH, PRIORITY.

THAT'S PART OF OUR FOUR YEAR PLAN FOR VARIOUS CONCRETE WORK.

UM, WE DO HAVE SOME FUNDS IN THERE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPENT FROM A PREVIOUS CAPITAL BUDGET.

THE REASON WHY I AM TRYING TO PUT IT IN, IN THE CYCLE NOW, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE WANT TO HAVE IT REPLACED, IS THAT WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S APPROVED, NOW, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN THIS SEASON, BUT THEN I CAN BEGIN THE PREP WORK, YOU KNOW, TO GO OUT TO BID IN THE FALL AND THEN HOPEFULLY HAVE IT COMPLETED BEFORE THE START OF THE, UH, 20, 24 SEASON.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S SO IT HAS TO COME THE FULL MONTH.

YOU HAVE TO COME OUT 20 BEFORE, BEFORE TODAY.

I HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.

AND THEN SOMETIMES EVEN THOUGH YOU, LIKE PAUL, YOU MADE A POINT THAT YOU WANNA HAVE ALL THE PROJECTS COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE YEAR, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY ALL THE TIME.

SOMETIMES IT CAN, LET ME ASK, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T.

LET ME ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS THINKING OF THIS AFTER ROBERTA AND I SPOKE TODAY.

UM, COULD, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY I FEEL THAT, OR WE FEEL AS A BOARD THAT THE PROPOSED CAPITAL BUDGETS OF YOU GET EVERYTHING UP, IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE.

YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR, LET'S SAY THAT'S THE, COULD WE, UH, COULD THE BOARD HAVE APPROVED THE 2023 CAPITAL BUDGET AND 2024 CAPITAL BUDGET AND BASICALLY SAY WE'RE GONNA GONNA, YOU KNOW, THE 2020, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BASICALLY DO TWO YEARS AT THE SAME TIME AND WE'RE GONNA BORROW FOR 2 23.

I THINK THAT'S AWFULLY HARD TO PROJECT, ISN'T IT? NO, WE COULD BASICALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD THROW IN SOME OF THESE THINGS FOR 23 AND DO ANOTHER BUDGET FOR 24, AND THEN YOU'LL BORROW IN 24.

I ALSO, I'M THINKING THAT CAR PRICES, THEY SAID, I WAS READING IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, THEY SAID THAT THOSE ARE STARTING TO GO DOWN, YOU KNOW, THE PRICES NOW, UH, EVEN ELECTRIC CARS ARE GOING DOWN NOW.

SO, YOU KNOW, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD.

SO, UM, BUT, SO I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE FOR THE VEHICLES, MAYBE YOU'RE BETTER OFF IF YOU HOLD BACK A LITTLE BIT.

YOU MAYBE YOU'LL GET A BETTER, MAYBE WE'LL GET A BETTER PRICE A YEAR FROM NOW.

IT DEPENDS.

IT DEPENDS ON THE BID SYSTEM WITH THE STATE, DOESN'T IT? BECAUSE DON'T WE GET THOSE PRICES THROUGH A BID? YEAH, BUT THEY, THEY'LL, NEXT YEAR THEY MAY BE LOWER BECAUSE IT CAN BE PENNY WISE, POUND FOOLISH.

SO I WOULD DEPEND ON THE, THE, THE VEHICLES THEY'RE REPLACING.

IF, IF THEY HOLD OFF AND THEY HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO REPLACE PARTS AND LABOR, THEN THAT CAN OFFSET ANY SAVINGS THAT YOU MIGHT GET FROM WAITING.

SO I THINK THAT CONVERSATION REALLY HAS TO GO BACK WITH THE REPAIR SHOP, UH, GENERAL FOREMAN AND D P W.

MM-HMM.

, THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WE TAKE OUR LEAD.

WE ALWAYS GO TO THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK WE, FOR, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE THEM AND, YOU KNOW, BUT TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE POOL ISSUE THOUGH, THERE'S A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THE POOL AND IT OCCURS, YOU KNOW, IN THE OFF SEASON, OBVIOUSLY.

RIGHT.

AND YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GO TO BID UNTIL THE MONEY'S BEEN APPROVED.

SO EVEN IF THE, EVEN IF IT WAS 2024, YOU'D HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY 1ST TO GO TO BID.

THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD GET IT DONE.

RIGHT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE IN THE FALL TO BE IN THE FALL.

BE HONEST WITH YOU, PAUL, THERE WAS A LOT OF OTHER STUFF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, AND I'M TRYING TO GET GUARANTEED TO GET THE, UH, THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARKING LOT, WHICH WE REALLY NEEDED.

WE KNOW IT'S IN REALLY HORRIBLE, IT'S THE WORST PARKING LOT IN THE WHOLE TOWN SYSTEM.

AND I SPREAD IT OUT.

AND THE NUMBERS YOU SEE IN HERE, YOU KNOW, A A YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE $750,000.

IT'S STILL AN ESTIMATE.

IT COULD POSSIBLY MORE, I COULD HAVE INCLUDED ON THIS ONE AND KNOW IT'S GONNA BE, I DIDN'T WANNA DO IT.

I, I'M JUST TELLING YOU,

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I'M GIVING YOU A VERY SMALL, REALISTIC BUDGET THAT I THINK IS, IS DOABLE.

AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS.

I SEEN SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND IT, IT WAS A LOT MORE.

SO, BUT IF YOU NEED TO PRIORITIZE AND, AND, AND, AND YOU HAVE TO CUT, I, I WOULD DO IT FROM THE PRIORITY LIST.

UH, THE LAST ITEM I HAVE ON THIS IS, UH, REALLY PHASE TWO OF THE ZARO PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, WHEN, AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE GETTING READY TO GO OUT TO BID AND WITH INFLATION, UM, WE DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY THAT IN, RIGHT? I NEED TO SLOW DOWN.

WE'RE GETTING READY, UH, EITHER TO GO OUT TO BID OR COME BACK TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION WHERE WE CAN GET IT OFF A GOVERNMENT CONTRACT TO REDO THE ZARO PARK, UM, BASKETBALL COURT AND RETAINING WALL.

PART OF THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN THE NEW PLAYGROUND THAT I SHARED WITH YOU BACK IN DECEMBER.

THAT IS GREAT.

WE'RE JUST DOING SOME LANDSCAPING.

THE OTHER COMPONENT OF IT WAS TO DO A DECK EXPANSION AND PUT SOME AWNINGS ON THE POOL.

AFTER LOOKING AT OUR COST AND SOME OF THE THINGS GONE UP, WE DECIDED THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT THIS YEAR.

INSTEAD, WE'RE GONNA CONCENTRATE NOW ON THE SECOND PART OF PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE BASKETBALL COURT REBUILD AND THE, AND THE, UH, RETAINING WALL REBUILD.

IF WE HAVE SOME LEFTOVER FUNDING FROM WHEN WE GO OUT AND GET THE PRICES, WE'LL DO SOME, UH, PATH WORK.

BUT WE FEEL, AND I HAD, AND I GOT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM, UH, B B S THAT IT, WE GET ANOTHER 295,000, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THE DECK EXPANSION AND, UH, FINISH THE PATH WORK AND, AND THEN RENOVATE THE HANDBALL COURT, WHICH IS AT ZARO PARK.

UM, AND IT'S JUST LIKE A LOGICAL STEP TO GO IN IT.

I MET WITH THE COMMUNITY LAST YEAR.

THEY WERE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PARK GETS THE ATTENTION THEY'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, AN INCREASE IN AND MORE USAGE.

SO IT'S IN IT, BUT IT WAS THE LAST ONE OF THE, UH, SIX PRIORITIES THAT, THAT I HAVE.

GREAT.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY EVERYTHING.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

IN TERMS OF THE, UM, I PUT ON THE SCRAPBOOK, SCRAP FOOD, SCRAP PICKUP LOCATIONS.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN, WE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO EXPAND THE FOOD SCRAP LOCATIONS AND UH, WHEN I WAS WAS SPEAKING TO , HE SUGGESTED THAT ONE OPTION, LIKE AS A NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO HAVE MORE DROP OFF, YOU KNOW, LOCATIONS.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS BECAUSE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO HAVE THE TRUCKS PICK THEM UP AT EVERYBODY'S HOME, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY.

SO, UM, ONE OF, I MEAN, WE COULD DO THAT ALSO, BUT ASSUMING WE HAVE A TIGHT BUDGET, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS WAS, UM, TO, SINCE THE PARKS ARE IN ALL DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, WOULD BE TO PUT LIKE A BIN, JUST LIKE WE HAVE ONE RIGHT OVER HERE, RIGHT OUTSIDE THE TOWN HALL AND AT VETERAN PARK.

JUST HAVE IT AT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PARKS AND, UM, AND DO IT AT THE EXTERIOR, BASICALLY IN THE PARKING AREA.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A LOT OF PARTICIPATION, THEN WE CAN GO MAYBE THE FOLLOWING YEAR TO THE, THE ACTUAL HOME PICKUP.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I ASKED YOU, AND YOU SAID YOU WOULD BRING IT UP AT THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, WHETHER YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT MUCH, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SO PUTTING IT IN THE PARKING LOT, NO, IT COULD BE LIKE IN A PARKING, IT COULD BE SORT OF LIKE, THERE'S A BIN RIGHT OUTSIDE THE, YOU KNOW, TOWN HALL AND, AND IT'S VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

AND WELL, I, THE, THE, THE REASON I'M ASKING IS THAT THE STATE, UM, STATE, THERE WAS LEGISLATION PUT FORTH BY THE STATE TO CREATE A PLACE FOR, UM, FOR DROP OFF.

BUT YOU CAN'T ALIENATE PARKLAND TO DO THAT.

SO IT NEVER MADE IT THROUGH THE, THE SENATE OR THE ASSEMBLY.

AND, UM, AND ACTUALLY I WAS TALKING TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS AND THEY SAID, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON COUNTY IN COUNTY PARKS, BUT WE CAN'T.

SO I, THAT WOULD APPLY.

YOU'D HAVE TO, THE STATE WOULD HAVE TO ALIENATE THE LAND TO DO IT, PUTTING IT IN A PARKING LOT.

MAYBE IT'S DIFFERENT.

BUT THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE, THE ONLY THOUGHT THAT I HAD, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I SAW YOUR EMAIL, IS WE HAVE GARBAGE BINS IN THE PARKS AND WE HAVE RECYCLING BINS ALSO.

SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUTTING A REC, UH, FOOD SCRAP BIN AND A GARBAGE PAIL? THE MAIN DIFFERENCE I THAT I SEE IS THAT, THAT THE GARBAGE THAT'S GENERATED IN THE PARK STAYS IN THE PARK.

YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO COME FROM OUTSIDE THE PARK AND DROP STUFF OFF.

THAT'S A, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TYPE OF HOUSEHOLD WASTE AND THE AMOUNT OF HOUSEHOLD ORGANIC WASTE, I THINK, UM, THAT GOES INTO THOSE CONTAINERS VERSUS PEOPLE

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HAVING A PICNIC IN THE PARK.

UM, AND I DO UNDERSTAND JERRY'S POINT, WHICH IS IT, IT CAN BE SMELLY AND UNSIGHTLY.

AND EVEN WHEN THEY PICK IT UP, SOMETIMES THE TRUCKS, DR.

DRU, UH, YOU KNOW, DRIZZLE, YOU KNOW, UH, G**K BEHIND THEM AS AS, AS THEY'RE PULLING OUT.

AND ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN TO THE SITE AT ANTHONY VETERAN PARK CAN ATTEST TO THAT.

UM, IT'S INTERESTING THOUGH, BECAUSE THIS SITE HERE SEEMS MUCH CLEANER THAN THAT SITE THERE, AND THAT SITE'S NEXT TO A WATER SOURCE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON IS FOR THAT.

YOU, YOU HAVE TO ASK, UH, D P W THAT QUESTION, YOU KNOW, UM, THE REASONABLE, WHEN, WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND WE HAD THIS SIMILAR CON, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION WHETHER IT WAS APPROPRIATE OR NOT, UM, WE SORT OF, MY IMPRESSION WAS THIS IS A TEMPORARY THING.

SO I THINK, AND IT'S STILL, I CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, LIKE A TEMPORARY THING.

AND UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT A, WE TRENCHED OUT TO PUT A LIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, AT NIGHT, NOT EVEN THOUGH THE PARK CLOSES, YOU KNOW, AT A REASONABLE TIME.

WE HAVE A LIGHT THERE.

WE ALSO REALIZED WE NEEDED TO HAVE AN, UH, A WATER SOURCE.

SO WE TAPPED IN FROM OUR BUILDING AND WENT ACROSS THE ROAD AND HAVE IT THERE.

'CAUSE THERE'S TIMES YOU HAVE TO REALLY CLEAN IT OUT WHEN YOU DO HAVE THIS, PAUL, THERE IS AN ISSUE OF RODENTS THAT IT'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE.

SO WHEN THE IDEA SAYS WE WANT TO GO IN OTHER PARKS, WHICH ARE SMALL OR WHATEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE WE REALLY WANNA HAVE.

SO, UH, I WILL BRING IT TO MY PARK AND REC ADVISORY BOARD TO GET COMMENT.

UM, I DID REACH OUT TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE GREENBERG NATURE CENTER RECENTLY, AND, AND THEY ARE ALL FOR THE FOOD, YOU KNOW, UH, SCRAP PROGRAM.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A GRANT THAT YOU ALREADY HAD.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE EXPIRED THAT COULD HELP BUY IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A COST BECAUSE YOU GET, YOU GOTTA GET PERSONNEL TO GO AHEAD WITH THAT.

SO IT'S A COMP, IT'S NOT AN EASY FIX FOR THAT.

I ASKED 'EM, I SAID, WOULD THEY BE OPEN THERE? THEY HAD THE SAME THINGS.

THEY HAVE LIMITED PARKING, AND THEY DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A VIABLE LOCATION TO HAVE IT, EVEN THOUGH THEY EMBRACED US A HUNDRED PERCENT.

SO I, I'VE BEEN PUTTING MY THINKING CAP ON, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ALIENATION ISSUE, WE DID RECEIVE FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT CHURCH ON TAX THROUGH ROAD, WHICH IS CLOSE TO THE THROUGHWAY EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT IT'S HEAVILY WOODED ON, ON TAX ROAD WHEN YOU FIRST GO OVER THE BRIDGE ON THE LEFT, I THINK WE HAVE 10 OR 15 ACRES THAT COULD QUALIFY AND YOU KNOW, AND AS A POTENTIAL LOCATION, AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GO TOWN WIDE, PAUL, I MEAN, WE HAVE IT ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN AT AF VETERAN PARK FOR THE TIME BEING AND THE PROGRAM'S WORKING AND PEOPLE USE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME AND IT'S AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PARK WHERE IT'S NOT IMPACTING OUR PROGRAM.

IT'S FAR ENOUGH.

BUT IF YOU CONSIDERED THE TAXI ROAD, AND I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TALK TO, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER FAWN ABOUT IT, THAT IS NOT DEDICATED PARK PLAN.

WE'VE USED THAT PORTIONS ATLANTA ALREADY FOR ALIENATIONS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO WE HAVE IT.

SO IT, IT, IT'S A WOODED AREA.

IT'S OFF A MAIN ROAD.

I'M SURE IT HAS A WATER SOURCE.

IT MIGHT BE SOME INVESTMENT WHERE YOU HAVE TO PUT IN WHETHER IT'S A GRAVEL AREA, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE WONDER SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK INTO FURTHER.

I WONDER IF THEY COULD USE ANY OF THE AREA OFF OF NO ROAD THAT WE'VE GIVEN UP TO THE WATER SHOP.

UM, THAT'S INTERESTING TOO.

YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

YOU, YOU KNOW, THE NORWOOD PARK THAT WE HAD MM-HMM.

THAT WE JUST, WE WE DID THE ALIENATION AND YOU NEEDED MORE SPACE.

THE QUESTION IS, IS LONG TERM YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO THE PARKING LOT OR, OR WERE THEY ABANDONED THE OTHER WATER SHOP PUT ON THE OTHER SIDE? ACCESSOR PROBABLY MM-HMM.

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MM-HMM.

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NOBODY'S EVER PARKED OVER THERE IN THAT PARKING LOT.

THAT'S A TOTAL WASTE OF SPACE.

YEP.

RIGHT.

WHAT ABOUT THE UPPER LEVEL OF THE LIBRARY? MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING, UH, AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE RODENTS, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT NEAR RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE WATER SHOP, THIS COULD BE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING WHERE NORWOOD ROAD IS.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY GOING INTO THE MM-HMM.

, IT'S NOT THE DOWN MM-HMM.

MM-HMM.

.

ALTHOUGH IF WE CAME FOR ABLE TO USE THE AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE PARKLET USED TO BE, THEN IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.

SO HE WOULDN'T WANT IT IN BOTH THOSE PLACES.

NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT AS ANOTHER ROAD INSTEAD, INSTEAD THAT, THAT, THAT'S A MAJOR ROADWAY.

THAT'S WHY.

AND TAXI TO ROAD IS A SECONDARY ROAD, BUT IT'S, IF IT'S CLOSER TO THE THROUGHWAY, IT WOULD BE REMOVED FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM HOMEOWNER.

MAYBE YOU COULD, A HOMEOWNER'S NOT GONNA WANT TO HAVE A FOOD SCRAP PROGRAM NEXT TO THE HOME.

I WOULDN'T EITHER.

MM-HMM.

.

RIGHT.

SO THE QUESTION, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THOROUGHLY LOOKED AT.

HOW FAR IS THE SETBACK OF, OF, OF THE DROP OFF IT WORKS AT A VETERAN PARK BECAUSE WE HAVE NO HOMES OVER, OVER HERE.

IF YOU LOOK OVER HERE, THERE'S ONE AND THERE'S A HOME RIGHT IN BACK OF IT.

IT'S DOWN HILL.

IT'S NOT AS BIG, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE REALLY COMING HERE? IT'S NOT AS BIG.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FULL CONSISTENTLY.

THIS IS ACTUALLY, THEY'RE FULL CONSISTENTLY AND THEY'VE ADDED ANOTHER, THEY'VE ADDED ANOTHER, UH, A BARREL IN THAT BARREL.

NOW ALL THREE BARRELS ARE

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FULL CONSISTENTLY.

I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHY THIS ONE IS ALL CLEAN AND TIDY, AND THAT ONE IS NOT ALWAYS SO, WELL, THE ONLY THING I COULD SUGGEST PEOPLE WATCHING, CAN I SAY THERE'S NO ONE WATCHING OURS.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

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AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING HERE, SO MAYBE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DROPPING OFF ARE A LITTLE MORE CAREFUL MM-HMM.

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BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T SHUT THE LID, IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWN TO OURS BEFORE MM-HMM.

, SOME OF THE RACCOONS ARE BIGGER THAN I'M MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, BECAUSE IF THE LID DOESN'T GET SHUT WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES, YOU KNOW, THEN THEY'RE GONNA CAUSE A PROBLEM.

SURE.

BUT HERE, THERE'S SOMEBODY KIND OF WATCHING ALL THE, AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF COYOTES, DEER MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

COULD BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY.

SO MAYBE THE LESSON THERE IS THE LOCATIONS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THEM SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE SO REMOTE.

YEAH.

THEY SHOULD BE WHERE SOMEBODY'S LAYING EYES ON THEM AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND MAKE SURE THE LIDS ARE CLOSED AND SWEPT UP AND THERE'S NO DEBRIS LYING AROUND.

RIGHT.

WE HAVE GIANT PALS WITH THE, WITH THE PEDALS SO THAT IT JUST RELEASES AND CLOSES AUTOMATICALLY.

.

LISTEN, I WOULDN'T BE SHOCKED IF THE RACCOONS KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

.

THEY'RE NOT QUITE TALL.

YEAH.

THEY LAUGHING WHEN I WENT DOWN THERE, THEY LOOKED LIKE I WAS IN THEIR SPACE.

OH YEAH.

.

OKAY.

I AM, I WONDER IF THE FIREHOUSES WOULD, UM, WOULD POSSIBLY BE MM-HMM.

, UH, MAYBE I COULD REACH OUT TO THEM AND ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD BE RECEPTIVE.

'CAUSE UH, WHEN PEOPLE WILL KNOW THAT THEY'RE BEING WATCHED BY THE FIRE, YOU KNOW, FIRE MM-HMM.

FIREHOUSE AND UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD BASICALLY EMERGENCY OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A, A WHOLE BUNCH OF LOCATIONS, BUT, UH, DO WANT MOST FIREHOUSE ARE SURROUNDED IMMEDIATELY BY HOME.

SO ANYONE WHO HAS A COMMENT ABOUT THAT, THE NAME IS PAUL FINER .

I AND ER THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S GOTTA RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FIREMEN ANYWAY.

YEAH.

IT'S THE NEIGHBORS OF THE, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU HAVE, SAY THE ONE ON CENTRAL AVENUE TO DALE FIRE THAT'S NOT NEAR NEIGHBOR.

YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS, IF THE IDEA CAME UP BEFORE ABOUT TAXI ROAD, BUT IF IT'S DONE RIGHT AND, AND, AND YOU WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT IDEA IS ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU KNOW, OF TOWN.

AND THEN IF WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE, IT WOULD HELP THEM ALONG WITH THE PEOPLE IN, IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE PROGRAM AT AV VETERAN PARK RIGHT NOW IS WORKING, IT IS SOME MAINTENANCE, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT AS EASY.

SO I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING BECOME, I'M PRETTY SURE THE ADVISORY BOARD IS NOT GONNA ENDORSE USING THE OTHER SITES.

YEAH.

WELL I THINK THAT IT OPENS AND THE ALIENATION BASICALLY PUTS IT TO REST.

RIGHT.

AND, AND I THINK, BUT IT OPENS THE DISCUSSION TO REALLY LOOK CRITICALLY AT, AT SITES THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE AND, YOU KNOW, TAX ERODE BEING ONE OPTION.

YEAH.

AND SOME OF THE THINGS, SO I THINK INCLUDE THE COMMISSIONER.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BE MAKING THE DECISION RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

WELL, THIS WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE WIN AN ALIENATION ARGUMENT WHEN WE HAVE PILES OF GRAVEL AND OTHER MATERIALS IN THE PARK.

YEAH.

BUT, BUT THAT'S FOR, BUT THAT IS BEING USED FOR OUR PARKS, WHETHER IT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE PARKS, IT'S LIKE EXCLUSIVE PARK, EXCLUSIVE FOR THE PARKS.

YEAH.

WE, I MEAN WE HAVE 634 ACRES AND A LOT OF ROADS AND FACILITIES.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING NICER WITH THAT, BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE TALKING, I AGREE ABOUT THE ARDSLEY, UH, D P W SITE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND YOU KNOW, IT WENT, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT I REMEMBER THAT IT WAS MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE THAT THAT LOOK THERE.

YEAH.

AND, BUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE IN THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARKING LOT TO INCLUDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY.

AND WE KNOW AND MEAN THEY'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IF, IF HAVING THE PROPER BARRICADES AND, AND FENCING IN THE AREA, WHICH WE COULD DO.

BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A FUNDING ISSUE.

SO ONCE WE PICK UP THE FOOD SCRAPS FROM HERE, WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM? I, I THINK THERE'S AN OUTSIDE COMPANY THAT, THAT WE PAY TO REMOVE IT, BUT I THINK THE COST OF REMOVING IT IS A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER THAN THE TOM, THE NORMAL GARBAGE.

THEY, THERE'S A SAVINGS, BUT THEY, I STILL THINK THERE'S A, UH, PER TONAGE FEE.

WELL, THEY BASICALLY, AND THEN THEY BASICALLY TAKE IT, I THINK, AND THEY, THEY TAKE IT TO BEACON, THEY RECYCLE IT.

AND THEN MATTER OF FACT, I THINK ELL IT STER STER TO ELSTER.

YEAH.

UM, AND, AND, AND FOSSIL FUEL VEHICLES.

YEAH.

I HAVE NO IDEA TOO.

RIGHT.

, UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE, THE COUNTY IS LOOKING INTO, I, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SPEAK TO PETER CART.

UM, SUSTAINABILITY COUNTY.

HE, HE HAS THE LAY OF THE LAND AND MAYBE THERE ARE CONTRACTS THAT WE CAN PARTNER UP WITH THAT WOULD, UM, ENABLE US TO HAVE A SAVINGS THERE TO, THERE'S BEEN TALK ON THE COUNTY LEVEL OF HAVING AN

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ACTUAL SITE ANY SOMEWHERE NEARBY.

IS THERE ANY TRACTION ON THAT? WELL, THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN EXPERIMENTAL ONE I THINK IS THE H MARK MURF, BUT I THINK THAT, I'M NOT SURE AT WHAT STAGE IT IS.

MM-HMM.

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SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW.

MM-HMM.

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MM-HMM.

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ALRIGHT.

GOOD JOB.

44 MINUTES.

THANKS GUYS.

TWO TOPICS.

44 MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

GOOD.

SO, UM, WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PROPOSAL FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL LEGAL CONTRACTUAL, UH, SO IT'S, IT'S PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON BARRY'S MATTERS LEGAL ADVICE.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION SECOND IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

AND WE'RE NOT COMING BACK THIS EVENING.